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| 00:12.09 | kd3 | Arrowmaster, you know, I was originally going 'wtf?' at last night's penguindrum, but then I remembered who was directing it and what his last major hit was |
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| 00:37.50 | Kraps | http://www.goldenjoystick.com/awards/best-mmo |
| 00:45.42 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 00:45.44 | Fisker | uglad? |
| 00:45.55 | kd3 | ...for? |
| 00:46.11 | Fisker | 64-bit wow client |
| 00:46.20 | kd3 | o_O; |
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| 00:46.37 | kd3 | tabs open some news feeds |
| 00:46.57 | Fisker | isn't in the news |
| 00:47.04 | mckenziemc | Fisker: maybe they're preparing for a 16-bit client instead! |
| 00:47.09 | Fisker | isn't official either for that matter |
| 00:47.23 | Fisker | just the PTR launcher that got an option to launch the 32-bit client |
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| 00:47.34 | Fisker | (It's inactive so you can't uncheck it yet) |
| 00:49.10 | Ryuken | Hello everyone |
| 00:49.20 | mckenziemc | hey |
| 00:50.37 | Ryuken | Is anyone planning to dev for SWTOR? |
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| 01:20.19 | BlackNet | grrrr, running 2 copies of wow at the same time freezes up from time to time |
| 01:22.42 | mckenziemc | not enough RAM? |
| 01:25.48 | BlackNet | plenty ram |
| 01:26.01 | BlackNet | it's only when one toon goes to a city |
| 01:27.18 | mckenziemc | slow hard drive then, i guess |
| 01:27.24 | BlackNet | no |
| 01:29.23 | BlackNet | sata 3 drive |
| 01:29.36 | mckenziemc | the interface isn't the bottleneck |
| 01:31.30 | BlackNet | am thinking its the directory. running both from the same install |
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| 01:34.14 | BlackNet | isnt that a nono? |
| 01:34.29 | MiRai | no, it's fine to run from the same dir |
| 01:34.42 | MiRai | multiboxers do it all the time |
| 01:34.44 | BlackNet | only a problem when i goto places like stormwind |
| 01:34.53 | MiRai | perhaps you're running out of VRAM? |
| 01:35.15 | BlackNet | possibly |
| 01:35.19 | BlackNet | i'll check in a min |
| 01:35.40 | BlackNet | in sethekk halls now letting that stupid bird insult me today |
| 01:35.45 | BlackNet | will check in a few |
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| 01:40.39 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/AcExa.jpg |
| 01:41.34 | BlackNet | that your ui? |
| 01:41.41 | BlackNet | you seriously need to clean that up |
| 01:42.46 | mckenziemc | s/need/could |
| 01:42.54 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.55 | Ackis | my UI is sexy! |
| 01:46.03 | Ackis | what's wrong with my UI? /growl |
| 01:46.54 | BlackNet | cluttered |
| 01:47.26 | Ackis | I'm a healer, it needs to be :P |
| 01:47.27 | Ackis | muhahhaha |
| 01:49.14 | BlackNet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDgZ1VjtAA here is my hud |
| 01:50.12 | Ackis | that's a youtube video, not a screenshot!!!! |
| 01:50.22 | Ackis | quit trying to trick me! I'm smarter than that! |
| 01:51.01 | BlackNet | it's a video i made |
| 01:51.30 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_060711_160859.jpg.html there is a screenshot |
| 01:53.24 | Ackis | so your UI is the same as mine except I have quests shown because I'm a lazy bastard and don't want to hide them and I'm in a raid and I have a second chat window? |
| 01:53.50 | Ackis | :P |
| 01:54.12 | BlackNet | uhm no not close |
| 01:56.20 | Ackis | nah it's pretty close, I also have more some more buttons on top of my right chat window :P |
| 01:57.04 | BlackNet | look at where my meter is at |
| 01:57.49 | Ackis | my metre usually is hidden :P |
| 01:59.00 | BlackNet | here |
| 01:59.00 | BlackNet | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0oYOP4PF6I |
| 01:59.06 | BlackNet | that's how my meter is setup |
| 02:11.18 | BlackNet | yea i think it's a memory problem. |
| 02:11.21 | BlackNet | have to little |
| 02:41.12 | airtonix | BlackNet: futile |
| 03:08.14 | Shirik | rawrs |
| 03:13.06 | kd3 | goddammit, how do the spammers have my cell number? |
| 03:13.41 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.47 | Shirik | kd3: I've learned that there are some apps out there that are apparently mining contacts. And there's even some apps that send text message ads from your phone! |
| 03:15.00 | Shirik | Probably none got through the app store, but I know some android apps are doing it |
| 03:16.14 | Shirik | (in b4 virus/malware scanners for phones) |
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| 04:17.34 | Cide | thanks |
| 04:17.38 | Cide | for killing the channel Shirik |
| 04:17.54 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:18.12 | Dagmar | Care to name some that come from the actual app store? |
| 04:18.22 | Dagmar | I wouldn't trust the ones from the renegade app stores on a bet. |
| 04:18.47 | Dagmar | ...but I've no problem with intercepting and tampering with traffic from anything acting improperly from the main app store. |
| 04:30.05 | Gnarfoz | he said "none got through the app store" |
| 04:30.12 | kd3 | okay, this is neat. http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ldslm/were_trying_to_automagically_recreate_the_whole/ |
| 04:31.14 | kd3 | someone's taking the minimap textures from wow to automatically create a (2d for now) version of the map in minecraft |
| 04:31.55 | Gnarfoz | that someone looks a bit like MMO-Champion's Dinnerbone (who's also a developer on Bukkit) |
| 04:32.34 | Gnarfoz | also, Marlamin/Alram, also from there (he linked some pix earlier) |
| 04:32.41 | Kraps | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ldkwg/the_indie_stone_project_zomboid_has_been_struck/ |
| 04:32.46 | Kraps | not so neat |
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| 04:36.47 | airtonix | Shirik: prove it |
| 04:40.09 | Corrodias | i dunno, i think that's pretty neat |
| 04:40.12 | Corrodias | i was entertained |
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| 04:41.40 | Kraps | haha Corrodias |
| 04:47.23 | Ycarene | I really need to get into BoT, BWD and Throne |
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| 05:21.29 | airtonix | Corrodias: i lol'd |
| 05:25.49 | mckenziemc | maybe you should kek next time |
| 05:27.10 | airtonix | lawl |
| 05:27.13 | airtonix | There's not time to think, we have to lynch him now before we change our minds. |
| 05:27.47 | airtonix | btw |
| 05:27.57 | airtonix | what is project zomboid? never heard of it |
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| 06:09.17 | Corrodias | dunno |
| 06:09.27 | Corrodias | whatever it was, it isn't a thing any more |
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| 06:18.02 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/308421_2525808821684_1147317335_3003224_1993324530_n.jpg |
| 06:18.04 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 06:48.15 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 06:52.22 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 06:57.43 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3392859878#1 |
| 06:57.46 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 07:01.09 | Cairenn | night all |
| 07:06.42 | Corrodias | what in the fuck is going on in that thread |
| 07:06.57 | Corrodias | #1 has to be a troll post, but why did #2 just quote a microsoft article? |
| 07:07.28 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 07:07.35 | bluspacecow | i'm refuting step # 3 |
| 07:07.45 | bluspacecow | lolz quit random processes ! its the solution to everything ! |
| 07:07.57 | Corrodias | oh, i mean, the first post has to be a troll post. the entire thing. |
| 07:08.23 | Corrodias | 2 is silly, 3 is ridiculous, 5 is dangerous |
| 07:24.01 | pnorman | often has photoshop open in the background while playing wow |
| 07:24.40 | pnorman | They don't seem to impact the same resources |
| 07:27.05 | airtonix | no one cares |
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| 07:27.37 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0F3LKaGN2A |
| 07:35.02 | Ackis | hi bluspacecow |
| 07:35.11 | bluspacecow | hi! |
| 07:35.12 | Industrial | Help information isn't available in English yet. To access the Help Center, you'll need to change your language preference: |
| 07:35.15 | Industrial | PayPal WHAT? |
| 07:35.28 | Industrial | forcing me to use dutch now are you? |
| 07:37.29 | Ackis | silly allergies |
| 07:38.01 | Industrial | I'm allergic to location == language |
| 07:38.36 | airtonix | umad? |
| 07:38.41 | Ackis | I'm having an allergic reaction to a prescription drug I'm on and it's annoying me |
| 07:40.21 | Industrial | yes imad =( I just proved that I'm me and i get an email saying I need to do it again .. |
| 07:40.31 | Industrial | wtb human interaction |
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| 07:52.29 | Ackis | 621 arch solves so far :( |
| 07:54.41 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 07:55.53 | Adys | kd3: email |
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| 08:10.49 | Torhal | solves Ackis. |
| 08:11.39 | Ackis | hey Denny |
| 08:11.45 | Ackis | I'm excited about BlizzCon |
| 08:11.56 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:12.09 | Ackis | worrying about pompy1 trying to sex me up tho |
| 08:12.19 | Torhal | I think he should be the worried one. |
| 08:12.48 | Ackis | :P |
| 08:12.55 | Torhal | :D |
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| 08:30.11 | mckenziemc1 | bluspacecow: maybe that 500k was kbps |
| 08:30.22 | bluspacecow | oh rly |
| 08:30.29 | airtonix | Torhal |
| 08:30.36 | Torhal | No |
| 08:30.38 | bluspacecow | i didn't know you can see that by default using Task Manager -> processes |
| 08:30.43 | bluspacecow | Torhal |
| 08:30.47 | Torhal | NEIN. |
| 08:31.10 | Elkano | morning Ackis, Torhal, .... (rest) |
| 08:31.12 | mckenziemc1 | bluspacecow: true, but he could've been confusing it with the resource manager |
| 08:31.23 | Torhal | Elkano: Aloha. |
| 08:31.30 | mckenziemc1 | but you can enable display of I/O transfers in the process tab of the task manager |
| 08:31.32 | bluspacecow | there's one in windows showing up much bandwidth a process is using ? |
| 08:31.42 | bluspacecow | Torhal |
| 08:31.45 | bluspacecow | get in ma belly |
| 08:31.54 | Torhal | produces a scalpel. |
| 08:31.58 | Ackis | hi Elkano |
| 08:32.07 | Ackis | it's 2:30 am here and I'm not tired + hand is itchyyyy |
| 08:36.39 | mckenziemc1 | it's 1:36 am here and i'm kinda tired but don't want to sleep :( |
| 08:37.08 | nevcairiel | its 10:36 here and i'm kinda thinkin about some breakfast |
| 08:37.26 | mckenziemc1 | go back to sleep |
| 08:38.37 | Elkano | Ackis, play some SpaceChem... ;) |
| 08:38.57 | Ackis | I did arch in wow to try to make me fall asleep :( |
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| 08:47.37 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfBbuMQ_AA8 |
| 08:47.40 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 09:26.42 | harl | wuff wuff |
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| 09:41.04 | haste | sorry, I don't speak dog. |
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| 09:52.11 | airtonix | but you're dane |
| 10:02.17 | Fisker | this changes everything haste |
| 10:02.36 | airtonix | it does? |
| 10:02.51 | haste | iPhone 5! |
| 10:03.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WitFf06hJBs&NR=1 |
| 10:03.36 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 10:03.38 | bluspacecow | bai bai now |
| 10:05.22 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 10:05.24 | Fisker | for shame :( |
| 10:05.57 | Fisker | so haste |
| 10:06.08 | Fisker | ~700GB downloaded this weekend |
| 10:06.13 | Fisker | does my ISP hate me yet? |
| 10:35.17 | airtonix | Fisker: u r pirate |
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| 10:47.35 | Fisker | i would never pirate airtonix |
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| 11:20.13 | airtonix | ugibberish? |
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| 12:06.21 | Elkano | pokes Fisker |
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| 12:30.14 | Fisker | Elkano |
| 12:30.15 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:30.34 | Elkano | yeah... how did you manage such small cicle times in SpaceChem... :/ |
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| 12:32.35 | airtonix | Fisker: hemad |
| 12:32.43 | airtonix | Elkano: he cheated |
| 12:32.48 | Adys | i saw this in a sass file and have no idea what it means; any idea? http://dpaste.com/635294/ |
| 12:33.09 | airtonix | Adys: which part? |
| 12:33.18 | airtonix | it's a css transform animation |
| 12:33.37 | karl_w_w | don't sass me Adys |
| 12:33.49 | Adys | airtonix: is this actually valid css? |
| 12:33.53 | Fisker | why would i cheat airtonix ? |
| 12:33.59 | airtonix | Adys: looks like it |
| 12:34.04 | Fisker | google it Elkano |
| 12:34.05 | Adys | yeah now i look at it |
| 12:34.07 | Adys | but ugh |
| 12:34.07 | Adys | hm |
| 12:34.08 | airtonix | Adys: try it out on fiddle |
| 12:34.11 | Adys | meh |
| 12:34.12 | Adys | ok |
| 12:34.12 | Adys | afk |
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| 12:34.50 | airtonix | you'd have to use real css and remove any sass |
| 12:40.18 | Fisker | ujelly Elkano ? |
| 12:42.03 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 12:42.08 | bluspacecow | Elkano R Cake. |
| 12:43.08 | Elkano | no, Fisker, since I tend to beat you in terms of symbols on my own :P |
| 12:44.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/textc/images/Crashcymbals.jpg ? |
| 12:45.30 | Fisker | obviously Elkano |
| 12:45.37 | Fisker | do you know how the game works? |
| 12:45.43 | Fisker | less symbols more cycles |
| 12:45.48 | Fisker | less cycles more symbols |
| 12:45.50 | Fisker | derp |
| 12:46.20 | Elkano | no, der is no direct causal relation between the two |
| 12:46.38 | Fisker | yes there is |
| 12:46.39 | Elkano | s/der/there/ |
| 12:46.47 | Fisker | unless if you suck |
| 12:46.51 | Elkano | see :P |
| 12:47.02 | bluspacecow | anyone else having issues connecting to the US realm servers for wow ? |
| 12:47.10 | Elkano | but yeah, there most likely are different optimal points for both |
| 12:47.13 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
| 12:48.00 | Fisker | noumad airtonix |
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| 12:58.03 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/sqbZX +1 internets to this guy |
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| 13:44.14 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 13:44.15 | Fisker | i farted |
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| 14:16.44 | Ketho | Blizzard just broke the GuildUI on latest PTR .. http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/14849/Blizzard_GuildUI/Blizzard_GuildNews.lua#133 |
| 14:16.57 | Cide | win |
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| 14:26.03 | Hegarol | Hey guys. Does anyone know the code for linking currencies to the chat? |
| 14:28.46 | Cide | the blizzard ui does |
| 14:29.09 | Ketho | you mean the link itself? /run SendChatMessage("\124cff00aa00\124Hcurrency:396\124h[Valor Points]\124h\124r") |
| 14:31.11 | Hegarol | yes code the blizzard ui does |
| 14:31.27 | Hegarol | but AtlasLoot currently doesn't and that should change with the next version ;) |
| 14:31.56 | Hegarol | Thanks Ketho. That may help. |
| 14:33.31 | Ketho | I suppose the blizzard UI would show it better yes >< |
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| 15:10.37 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:10.43 | Shirik | "People who have more birthdays live longer" |
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| 15:11.10 | Dagmar | Sounds like a scientific fact to me. :) |
| 15:11.59 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:12.03 | Fisker | gotten your blood phone yet? |
| 15:12.07 | Shirik | I have Fisker! |
| 15:12.12 | Shirik | you jelly? |
| 15:12.16 | Fisker | nope |
| 15:12.17 | Fisker | you jelly |
| 15:12.26 | Shirik | nope |
| 15:12.28 | Shirik | cause I have it |
| 15:12.30 | Shirik | and you don't |
| 15:12.34 | Fisker | exactly |
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| 15:20.12 | bluspacecow | Shirik |
| 15:20.16 | bluspacecow | I candy |
| 15:20.25 | bluspacecow | You Jelly I candy |
| 15:20.31 | Shirik | I want candy now :( |
| 15:20.48 | bluspacecow | *giefs Candy* |
| 15:22.05 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:22.20 | bluspacecow | Fiskery Fisker |
| 15:22.28 | Fisker | no |
| 15:22.38 | bluspacecow | Diskery Disker ? |
| 15:23.54 | Fisker | no |
| 15:24.07 | bluspacecow | Biskery Bisker ? |
| 15:24.57 | Shirik | <3 bluspacecow |
| 15:26.09 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 15:26.11 | Fisker | no |
| 15:26.16 | Fisker | and also no bluspacecow |
| 15:26.30 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 15:26.41 | bluspacecow | u mad bro ? |
| 15:28.22 | Torhal | WHen did you become bluspacetroll? |
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| 15:35.01 | bluspacecow | I have been receiving my training at the foot of Mount Fisker |
| 15:38.26 | Fisker | umad bluspacecow ? |
| 15:38.41 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 15:38.50 | Fisker | umad |
| 15:39.09 | Ackis | best freenode channel: #reddit-pokemon |
| 15:39.21 | bluspacecow | O_o wot ? |
| 15:43.12 | Fisker | umad Ackis ? |
| 15:43.38 | Ackis | no |
| 15:43.49 | Fisker | you are |
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| 16:04.29 | Torhal | Ackis: Finish up the ticket queue, damn it! |
| 16:06.26 | Shirik | Ackis: Finish every ticket except Torhal's |
| 16:06.43 | Shirik | and then create some way to label it as "escalated" and then forget about it forever |
| 16:07.22 | bluspacecow | Foward each ticket of Torhal's back to him with the comment "u mad bro?" |
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| 16:18.11 | foxlit | gets no tickets. |
| 16:18.14 | foxlit | sad :( |
| 16:18.55 | bluspacecow | *sends a ticket to foxlit reading "am i sexy?"* |
| 16:19.07 | foxlit | rejected. |
| 16:19.16 | bluspacecow | :[ |
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| 16:30.34 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:31.13 | bluspacecow | hay |
| 16:31.35 | Torhal | Shirik: I didn't file any tickets. I've just been addressing all of the ones on Ackis Recipe List. I figured I'd demand that Ackis take some as well. :D |
| 16:31.43 | Torhal | pours lye on bluspacecow. |
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| 16:38.35 | Silversage | Shirik: ping |
| 16:38.43 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:39.32 | Silversage | You had a suggestion some time back for doing tooltip scanning in a way that doesn't depend on localized strings. |
| 16:39.56 | Silversage | But I'm not seeing all tooltip strings available on the client, which kinda defeats that. Any thoughts? |
| 16:40.06 | bluspacecow | Pong |
| 16:40.19 | bluspacecow | @Torhal you're pouring a stringed instrument on me ? |
| 16:40.24 | Silversage | Pong was a great game for its time. |
| 16:40.30 | Maldivia | Silversage: what kind of tooltips? |
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| 16:41.43 | Silversage | Maldivia: I'm interested in doing evaluations of items. So things like "On melee hit, gives a chance of boosting agility by 37. Stacks up to 10 times." |
| 16:41.45 | Shirik | Silversage: I can't say I've needed to do anything like that recently, so if I said that I'll have forgotten by now, but I'll try to give it some thought |
| 16:41.49 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/beard_slap.gif |
| 16:42.32 | Maldivia | Silversage: yeah, those lines come from spells, and they are not found anywhere in the lua |
| 16:42.32 | Dagmar | Unless you want to get really, really anal about the math, those kinds of trinkets generally stay at 100% uptime once you've been swinging a bit |
| 16:42.42 | Silversage | Shirik: It seems to me that many of the tooltip strings were localized on the server, so there's no localization string on the client that I can you to try to reverse decode it. |
| 16:43.22 | Dagmar | I looooves me those trinkets on my hunter, but I had to drop the lesser one for the coaster |
| 16:43.22 | Silversage | Dagmar: Being able to detect the tooltip is different that how to model it. But I agree with you. |
| 16:43.30 | Dagmar | Ah okay I see |
| 16:43.30 | Maldivia | Silversage: all Use/On Equip lines on items are spells, and are localized in the spells.dbc file in the client |
| 16:44.22 | Silversage | Are the localization strings not members of _G? |
| 16:44.31 | Maldivia | no |
| 16:44.43 | Silversage | Are they accessible in lua? |
| 16:44.45 | Maldivia | no |
| 16:44.58 | Silversage | Then no help. :( |
| 16:44.59 | Maldivia | not besides reading them from a tooltip for either the item or the spell |
| 16:45.31 | Maldivia | and that will always be a localized string |
| 16:46.21 | Silversage | Vaguely, I think Shirik proposed a way to use the localization strings to see if the actual tooltips matched some localizable string. When that's the case, I can write the tooltip detector in a way that doesn't need to be localized itself. |
| 16:46.41 | Fisker | hey Maldivia |
| 16:46.45 | Fisker | not so hey Shirik |
| 16:46.58 | Kraps | http://www.theindiestone.com/lemmy/index.php/2011/10/16/final-post-and-apology/ |
| 16:47.25 | Maldivia | Silversage: well, they usually follow the same general wording on the tooltips, so you could try to find a pattern |
| 16:48.01 | Silversage | Yes, but only in one language. |
| 16:48.04 | Fisker | hemad Kraps ? |
| 16:48.15 | Kraps | prettymad |
| 16:49.07 | Maldivia | Silversage: but all Use and Equip on items (except straigt +rating/attack power/spell power) are read from spells, and are not stored anywhere in lua globals |
| 16:49.13 | Dagmar | cheshire_fox: Which version of Windows? |
| 16:49.32 | Cide | No one put [...] âmust make nightly off-site backups` [...] in my game programmer job description. |
| 16:49.36 | Cide | LOL |
| 16:49.38 | Silversage | Maldivia: Exactly. |
| 16:50.59 | Silversage | Maldivia: If it were possible to find Blizz' string they used to localize that message, then I could bind a version of that string to my detector and my modeler, and the detection would be language-independent. |
| 16:51.19 | Maldivia | thre is no such string |
| 16:51.20 | Silversage | As it is, I'll have to write the detectors in a way that others can localize for me. |
| 16:51.32 | Silversage | Yup. You said it. And I understood it. |
| 16:51.43 | Silversage | Now I'll just go have a good cry about it. |
| 16:52.16 | Silversage | Well, actually, technically, Maldivia, there *is* such a string. We just can't get at it. |
| 16:52.33 | Maldivia | Silversage: there isn't |
| 16:52.51 | Cide | isn't it constructed from the wdb |
| 16:52.57 | Cide | with a good deal of substitutions and math |
| 16:53.05 | Silversage | Then how does the tooltip get localized into N languages? |
| 16:53.13 | Cide | the wdb's are localized I believe? |
| 16:53.15 | Maldivia | manually translated |
| 16:53.22 | Maldivia | Cide: dbc, but yeah :P |
| 16:53.28 | Cide | yeah, dbc |
| 16:53.48 | Silversage | You're saying Blizzard has a crew of translators live sitting by in real-time manually translating each string? HAHAHA |
| 16:54.02 | Cide | the spell tooltips are in the dbc files |
| 16:54.13 | Cide | which locally contains the database of spells |
| 16:54.16 | Maldivia | Silversage: notice you have a enUS folder in your installation |
| 16:54.18 | Cide | and each dbc file is localized in a specific language |
| 16:54.21 | Maldivia | a German would have a deDE |
| 16:54.43 | Cide | inside the dbc file is basically a CSV of spell tooltips and spell data |
| 16:54.44 | Maldivia | a Mexian would have esMX etc |
| 16:56.09 | Maldivia | yes, Blizzard tends to follow the same template when creating those kind of Equip effects, so they can use existing translations, but that is not always the case |
| 16:57.34 | bluspacecow | ah see |
| 16:57.50 | bluspacecow | so you will need to install _all_ locales then use MPQ editor to extract all dbc files |
| 16:58.31 | Maldivia | Silversage: take for instance Vessel of Acceleration, the interal string for the effects are: Heroic verrsion: "Grants $97142s1 critical strike rating for $97142d each time you deal a melee critical strike, stacking up to $97142u times.", Normal version: "Grants $96980s1 critical strike rating for $96980d each time you deal a melee critical strike, stacking up to $96980u times." |
| 17:00.46 | Silversage | And you think those aren't being created from a single localization string somewhere in Blizz' development code base? |
| 17:01.15 | Silversage | I have to admit it's possible, but I'd hope not. |
| 17:04.17 | Silversage | bluspacecow: No, I'm more likely to start building my own patterns in English, but try to make it easy for someone else to localize to a different language if they care. |
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| 17:19.02 | cbreak | common problems with localisation patterns: |
| 17:19.03 | foxlit | http://www.wowpedia.org/images/a/a1/Wasn%27t_It_Obvious.jpg << Poor Azuregos |
| 17:19.07 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes to sleeps nows |
| 17:19.13 | cbreak | the result is longer in an other language so it doesn't fit |
| 17:19.27 | cbreak | an other language requires the arguments in a different order due to grammar differences |
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| 17:25.24 | Silversage | cbreak: Typical rule of thumb is that translation increases size, no matter which direction. Always exceptions in small texts, of course. |
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| 17:28.32 | Kraps | Fisker: somad http://i.imgur.com/OrFOh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YrBdQ.jpg |
| 17:32.50 | Fisker | hemad |
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| 17:43.27 | Silversage | I take it that they don't many community support folks there. ;) |
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| 18:05.18 | Kraps | you accidentally a word Silversage |
| 18:05.57 | Silversage | Kraps: Indeed did. I meant say, "don't have many". |
| 18:06.47 | Kraps | he could also not have gotten drunk |
| 18:07.06 | Maldivia | depends whatyou mean by "community support folks" |
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| 19:24.11 | Ackis | I got a new laptop!!!! |
| 19:24.24 | Maldivia | grats |
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| 19:44.19 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:44.21 | Fisker | umad? |
| 19:46.49 | Ackis | no |
| 19:49.10 | mckenziemc | smackises Fisker |
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| 19:54.44 | Fisker | beta report? |
| 19:56.01 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
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| 19:56.28 | Stanzilla | negative man |
| 19:57.05 | Fisker | then what Stanzilla ? |
| 19:57.14 | Stanzilla | just hey |
| 19:57.18 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:57.19 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 19:57.37 | Fisker | would you like to make out? |
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| 20:25.16 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiG4rTcw5Xo |
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| 22:33.40 | Moolgar | hey, i have rly trubble here with a event, anyone that could help me 1 sec ? |
| 22:35.11 | Mikk | ~irc |
| 22:35.11 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 22:35.18 | Mikk | ~asktoask |
| 22:35.18 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 22:35.32 | Moolgar | local f = CreateFrame("Frame") |
| 22:35.34 | Moolgar | f:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED") |
| 22:35.36 | Moolgar | f:SetScript("OnEvent", OnEvent) |
| 22:35.37 | Moolgar | local function OnEvent(self, event, ...) |
| 22:35.40 | Moolgar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.41 | Moolgar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.42 | Moolgar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.43 | Maldivia | use paste it sites |
| 22:35.44 | Moolgar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.45 | Moolgar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.47 | Moolgar | end |
| 22:35.48 | Moolgar | can u see whats wrong with this code ? |
| 22:35.49 | Maldivia | do NOT paste in channel |
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| 22:35.56 | Moolgar | sry :S |
| 22:35.59 | Mikk | ~pastey |
| 22:35.59 | purl | [pastey] the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the 'Paste' button, and copy & paste the resulting URL in the channel you were about |
| 22:36.36 | Mikk | Moolgar: the problem is that you define the function AFTER doing the setscript |
| 22:36.56 | Mikk | so || f:SetScript("OnEvent", OnEvent) || goes and looks for a global function called OnEvent |
| 22:36.58 | Mikk | which probably doesn't exist |
| 22:36.58 | Mikk | so it's nil |
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| 22:37.46 | Moolgar | hmm, okey, i'll try change it around then, thx in adcance |
| 22:38.31 | Moolgar | omg, awesome, this works |
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| 22:39.18 | Moolgar | could u please explane me why it works like this ? or how. thought functions was like standalone, they could be wherever in the script |
| 22:39.41 | Maldivia | lua> print(x); x = 1; |
| 22:39.42 | lua_bot | Maldivia: nil |
| 22:39.57 | Maldivia | the reason that doesn't print 1, is the same reason yours doesn't work |
| 22:40.18 | Mikk | it's not entirely obvious |
| 22:40.34 | Mikk | if you define functions globally or inside a table, you can reach them from inside other functions - yes |
| 22:40.46 | Mikk | but if you define local functions, they only exist below where they are defined |
| 22:40.59 | Moolgar | ahhhhhh |
| 22:41.00 | Mikk | BUT this still doesn't work |
| 22:41.24 | Moolgar | so if my function was global this would have worked ? |
| 22:41.26 | Mikk | print(MyGlobalFuncName) function MyGlobalFuncName(...) end |
| 22:41.29 | Mikk | no |
| 22:41.40 | Mikk | it is not defined at the time of your SetScript() |
| 22:41.54 | Cide | so there are two conditions |
| 22:41.54 | Mikk | if the SetScript() was done inside some function that got called later then yes |
| 22:42.09 | Mikk | i'll put it another way |
| 22:42.13 | Cide | the code "function blah() ... end" must have been executedrun when it is being used |
| 22:42.17 | Mikk | think of functions as: |
| 22:42.18 | Seerah | Moolgar: basically, your Lua file is read and compiled from top to bottom. |
| 22:42.18 | Cide | s/executedrun/executed/ |
| 22:42.28 | Mikk | > function MyFunction() ... end |
| 22:42.30 | Mikk | is the EXACT SAME as |
| 22:42.39 | Mikk | > MyFunction = function() ... end |
| 22:42.50 | Mikk | i.e. creating a function and assigning it to a variable |
| 22:43.02 | Moolgar | awesome |
| 22:43.06 | Moolgar | thx a lot for help |
| 22:43.11 | Mikk | so if you replace functions here and think "numbers" instead |
| 22:43.17 | Mikk | i think you see why your code wasn't doing the right thing |
| 22:43.24 | Moolgar | yeah :D |
| 22:43.34 | Moolgar | got damn i stressed 24 hours with this |
| 22:43.42 | Moolgar | haha, got slightly headack now ;P |
| 22:43.45 | Mikk | i guess you have experience with C? |
| 22:43.55 | Mikk | or any other compiled language for that matter |
| 22:44.06 | Mikk | i bashed my head against this for a little at first too |
| 22:44.18 | Mikk | because i'm used to functions being created before any other code is run |
| 22:44.23 | Mikk | but that's not how script languages work |
| 22:44.42 | Moolgar | not rly, im just hobby based. bought book for addon development for wow, read that for little over year ago, so only doing smal projects over time |
| 22:45.00 | Arrowmaster | which book? |
| 22:45.10 | Mikk | clads book ofc, are there any others? =P |
| 22:45.16 | Arrowmaster | there are others |
| 22:45.18 | Mikk | oho |
| 22:45.22 | Mikk | my bad! |
| 22:45.24 | Moolgar | world of warcraft programming its called |
| 22:45.30 | Mikk | author? |
| 22:45.33 | Arrowmaster | i think one of the DBM guys did one, and its horrible |
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| 22:46.02 | Moolgar | james whitehead 2, bryan mclemore, matthew orlando |
| 22:46.09 | Mikk | nodnod |
| 22:46.11 | Mikk | that's the good one |
| 22:46.16 | Arrowmaster | oh you got the first edition of the good book |
| 22:46.19 | Mikk | those 3 all hang in this channel fwiw |
| 22:46.24 | Mikk | but i wont point them out ^^ |
| 22:46.41 | Moolgar | yeah, i think its the first edition, lot of stuff is outdated, but i find outdates in patch noters |
| 22:46.56 | Arrowmaster | it should help to teach the basics of lua though |
| 22:46.59 | Moolgar | updates * |
| 22:47.04 | Moolgar | yeah |
| 22:47.34 | Moolgar | its not too bad tbh, always fun to learn, atm im trying to make better spellAlert for fulmination on my ele shammy :D |
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| 22:48.50 | Moolgar | want the icon to hide when earth shock is on cd. and show when i have earthshock rdy. also it cant show before i have 9 lightning charges, so i cant do it with power aura :S |
| 22:49.19 | Moolgar | but i guess it shouldnt be too hardcore to do :D |
| 22:52.07 | Cairenn | hey nicoli_s, I still don't see your name on the list for dinner :p |
| 22:52.47 | Maldivia | Moolgar: what about something like if select(4, UnitAura("player", "Lightning Shield")) == 9 then --[[ something ]]end |
| 22:53.26 | Moolgar | u mean with power aura ? |
| 22:54.18 | Maldivia | don't know how power aura work, so :P |
| 22:54.46 | Moolgar | ahh, i see, well, i have function after i got the event, that im working with ;P |
| 22:54.51 | Moolgar | sec and i can plaste it |
| 22:55.50 | Moolgar | http://pastebin.com/JBs9KRsp |
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| 22:56.32 | Moolgar | so insted of print(1) i replaced that to ChargeCounter() |
| 22:57.19 | Maldivia | Moolgar: yeah ok, your function scans the first 20 buffs to find Lightning Shield... I just pulled the info af any Lightning Shield buff (if present) directlyu :P |
| 22:58.08 | Moolgar | haha, okey, ur too advanced, haha. i'll try " scope ur code " little more see if i understand it compleetly :) |
| 22:58.58 | Maldivia | UnitBuff("player", "Lightning Shield") <-- find a buff on the player named Lightning Shield; select(4, Uni....) <-- get the 4th return value |
| 23:00.17 | Moolgar | select(4, UnitAura is what i dont rly understand, what value this return ? what u mean with 4th ? |
| 23:01.09 | Maldivia | as you can see by your own code, UnitBuff (or UnitAura, same method basically) returns several return values: name, rank, icon, count, etc etc |
| 23:01.31 | Maldivia | as we're interested in the count, which is the 4th, you can do select(4, to get it |
| 23:01.48 | Moolgar | ahh, nice u can just do it that easy |
| 23:02.02 | Moolgar | awesome, thx :D |
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| 23:10.29 | foxlit | # reboot |
| 23:10.29 | foxlit | Failed to talk to init daemon. |
| 23:10.32 | foxlit | Oh I wonder. |
| 23:12.18 | Moolgar | what, lol. this is programmming humor i suppose ;P |
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| 23:22.02 | Maldivia | hmm... don't really think I'd trust it - http://imgur.com/lQMUg |
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| 23:27.18 | Moolgar | lol |
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| 23:41.32 | Fisker | can't sleep |
| 23:41.33 | Fisker | gonna die |
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| 23:53.32 | Cide | go watch mlg then |
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