| 00:00.00 | Dagmar | It's also a matter of importing poverty |
| 00:00.21 | Jamash | Which is why it would be foolish to deny them a college education |
| 00:00.21 | Dagmar | We have enough poverty an unemployment for actual citizens already. |
| 00:00.42 | Arrowmaster | the place my friend got fired from knows exactly who is selling the fake papers to the illegals but they dont care |
| 00:00.42 | Dagmar | Why should theirs be paid for and not that of a citizen |
| 00:00.56 | Jamash | Why shouldn't theirs be paid for if they pay taxes? |
| 00:00.56 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Find a payphone and call up ICE, man |
| 00:01.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont know the details, he does |
| 00:01.16 | Dagmar | Get him the phone number |
| 00:01.25 | Jamash | Dagmar: Narc. |
| 00:01.28 | Shirik | Jamash: Because, like me, they're contributing to the downfall of the economy |
| 00:01.37 | Dagmar | Jamash: Specifically because I had two fucking people using my fucking SSN last year |
| 00:01.54 | Dagmar | ...which made the IRS kinda interested in me for about ten minutes. |
| 00:02.20 | Dagmar | ...which is about as long as it took them to realize that I wouldn't be working in IT and picking peaches two states away at the same time. |
| 00:02.20 | Jamash | Dagmar: so rather than fix the underlying problem (immigration is broken) you'd rather punish people for trying to better themselves, gotcha |
| 00:02.32 | Dagmar | No, I'd rather punish the employers. |
| 00:02.38 | Dagmar | The people who import poverty. |
| 00:02.56 | Jamash | They manufacture plenty of poverty domestically as well |
| 00:02.57 | Dagmar | The people who've decided getting their lawn mowed is more important than following the law. |
| 00:03.14 | Shirik | Jamash: If you punish the people for coming over here, they will stop coming over here |
| 00:03.31 | Jamash | Shirik: I know you don't understand cause and effect but sometimes you astonish me |
| 00:03.32 | Dagmar | I fail to see how it's unreasonable to punish them for breaking the law. |
| 00:04.00 | Dagmar | Alabama has at least gotten some balls from somewhere. |
| 00:04.02 | Jamash | Dagmar: The undocumenteds or the employers? |
| 00:04.07 | Dagmar | Both. |
| 00:04.32 | Jamash | Dagmar: Use every man after his desert, and who should 'scape whipping? |
| 00:04.43 | Dagmar | Whatever jabbermouth |
| 00:05.02 | Arrowmaster | if they just want to do stuff like mowing lawns, picking peaches, or being a maid in a vegas hotel i say just give them a visa, its not like the actual citizens will do those |
| 00:05.03 | Jamash | whatever illiterate |
| 00:05.08 | Jamash | ^\ |
| 00:05.27 | Dagmar | They won't do it for the money that's being paid because it's not anything like a living wage in most areas |
| 00:05.48 | Jamash | hey maybe if we didn't impoverish people in mexico with our treaties and subsidies they'd stop coming here |
| 00:05.48 | Dagmar | If you're going to have slavery, you should just have slavery and be done with it. |
| 00:06.01 | Dagmar | We didn't fuck their country up. |
| 00:06.05 | Jamash | Yes, we did |
| 00:06.10 | Dagmar | No, we didn't. |
| 00:06.14 | Jamash | Yes, we did |
| 00:06.18 | Dagmar | No, we didn't. |
| 00:06.19 | Arrowmaster | no their government and the drug cartels did |
| 00:06.22 | Jamash | I can cite chapter and verse if you like |
| 00:06.28 | Dagmar | Oh please do. |
| 00:06.38 | Dagmar | Please demonstrate how any damn thing we do over here caused their epic problems. |
| 00:06.58 | Dagmar | ...and I do mean *all* their problems. |
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| 00:07.29 | Dagmar | The only thing allowing it to go will accomplish is further collapse of our economy. |
| 00:08.16 | Jamash | After NAFTA, the number of billionaires (in USD, not pesos kthx) in Mexico skyrocketed and the amount of grinding poverty also skyrocketed. Corn subsidies in the US collapsed the price of corn, putting farmers out of business, and then corn ethanol subsidies in the US shot the price of corn up, making it difficult for people to afford enough food to live on. Shall I go on? |
| 00:08.23 | Dagmar | ...because that perfectly functional citizen who can't get a job doing say, construction, because the jobs are being taken by illegal aliens at well under minimum wage has to file for unemployment. |
| 00:08.38 | Dagmar | No, because you're wasting your time. |
| 00:08.48 | Dagmar | You seem to think NAFTA was something we shoved down their throats. |
| 00:09.21 | Dagmar | Both countries agreed to it. If it's not working, the thing for them to do is simply abandon the treaty. |
| 00:09.40 | Jamash | you seem to be under a misapprehension as to how politics works |
| 00:09.45 | Dagmar | No, I'm not. |
| 00:10.06 | Dagmar | Personally, if they started up burning down goverment offices tomorrow I think it would probably be a good start. |
| 00:10.33 | Dagmar | Fucking up *our* economy even further however, will *not* fix theirs. |
| 00:10.40 | Jamash | do you think unemployment in the US is caused by undocumented immigrants rather than financial deregulation? |
| 00:10.58 | Dagmar | Do you think easter eggs in Thailand contribute to global warming? |
| 00:11.05 | Jamash | now you're trolling |
| 00:11.14 | Dagmar | After all, they don't affect the price of eggs in China. |
| 00:11.39 | Dagmar | I *know* that every illegal who takes a job in the US is one less job for a citizen. |
| 00:11.39 | Jamash | I hear the word "gullible" in wiktionary links to a photo of Dagmar |
| 00:12.02 | Jamash | political science: F, economics: F |
| 00:12.13 | Dagmar | If you're unable to come to grips with that, you've got serious problems larger than I care to give a crap about. |
| 00:12.36 | Jamash | Economics is not a zero-sum game |
| 00:12.52 | Dagmar | Get a blue collar job sometime asshole. |
| 00:12.57 | Jamash | Your statement looks good on a bumper sticker and nowhere else |
| 00:13.51 | Jamash | Dagmar: Again, do you really think blue collar workers in the US can't get jobs because of undocumented immigrants, not because of financial deregulation? |
| 00:14.00 | Dagmar | Life isn't a video game where the levels of resources can casually be changed because things aren't working out. |
| 00:14.48 | Jamash | I like non-sequiturs as much as the next giraffe but I find your lack of relevance disturbing |
| 00:15.53 | Jamash | Do you refuse to spend money because the objects you can obtain with it aren't worth any more to you than the green pieces of paper / bits in your bank's computer? |
| 00:16.53 | Jamash | Do you refuse to work because the green pieces of paper / bits in your bank's computer aren't worth any more to you than your time and physical/intellectual effort? |
| 00:17.27 | Jamash | Or do you acknowledge that in a properly functioning economic relationship, all parties benefit to a greater extent than they would absent the economic relationship? |
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| 00:19.11 | Dagmar | Hell, better yet, go move to a part of town where there's a lot of illegal immigrants, and only very limited amounts of emergency services and police coverage because there's four times as many illegals as there are census-tabulated citizenry. |
| 00:19.27 | Jamash | The census tabulates illegal immigrants |
| 00:19.47 | Dagmar | ...then come back and tell us when you're tired of being shot at because there's ten whole cops in a ten mile radius. |
| 00:19.57 | Jamash | Come back when you're tired of trolling |
| 00:20.55 | Dagmar | ...or tired of watching apartment buildings burn down and diplace a dozen families because the nearest fire station is ten miles away. |
| 00:20.57 | Arrowmaster | census might not care about if they are legal or illegal, but the illegals are very reluctant to tell the true about things like how many are living in a house since they dont want anybody to know they are illegal |
| 00:21.18 | Jamash | Dagmar: so by your logic we should throw all the poor people out of the country, legal or not |
| 00:21.33 | Dagmar | The census doesn't care, but you can't tell the illegals that |
| 00:21.45 | Dagmar | Those numbers being so far off definitely screws up city planning. |
| 00:22.03 | Jamash | it's cute that you think that localities don't provide services to poor people because of immigration status and not economic status |
| 00:22.12 | Corrodias | how is it that you can notice that there aren't enough police yet none of the city officials can? |
| 00:22.15 | Corrodias | i think you're mistaken. |
| 00:22.24 | Dagmar | The city officials all live in Brentwood. |
| 00:22.41 | Jamash | he's mistaken about almost everything he's said in this conversation |
| 00:22.44 | Corrodias | and they never hear input from anyone else, and they never run studies |
| 00:22.51 | Corrodias | i think you may be right... |
| 00:23.16 | Dagmar | There was a shooting at least once a week less than three miles from my house until we got the Nashville West precinct build, which could _not_ be built because of the utter lack of money allocated because of census and employment data. |
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| 00:23.36 | Corrodias | yeah, i'm sure that's why |
| 00:23.41 | Dagmar | They're fucking policitians. The only thing they study is the numbers on the checks the lobbyists write. |
| 00:23.46 | Jamash | the plural of "anecdote" is not "data" |
| 00:23.53 | Dagmar | Corrodias: I am *very* sure that's why |
| 00:24.09 | Corrodias | "well, these numbers are an obvious lie, but that's what the survey says, so let's not bother trying to correct the problem." |
| 00:24.28 | Dagmar | The only reason I still live where I do is because I'm comfortable with the idea of running someone down if they try to come after me. |
| 00:24.43 | Arrowmaster | running them down? |
| 00:24.44 | Dagmar | ...because I REALLY got tired of hearing about the shootings |
| 00:24.47 | Arrowmaster | on a scooter? |
| 00:25.00 | Dagmar | No, in the car. On the scooter I'd have to get creative, but its' got good take off. |
| 00:25.04 | Corrodias | why bother making an effort at funding city services based on population if you aren't going to make an effort to get accurate numbers? |
| 00:25.05 | Corrodias | i think you're mistaken. |
| 00:25.36 | Jamash | Dagmar is impervious to both facts and logic. |
| 00:25.46 | Dagmar | You think I'm mistaken because you don't live in an area where this has been a problem, so you don't wish to believe in it, but I assure you _this is exactly_ what goes on. |
| 00:26.00 | Corrodias | you are reading things i didn't say |
| 00:26.11 | Dagmar | I also read the paper. |
| 00:26.11 | Corrodias | i do not doubt that there are poor parts of cities that suck |
| 00:26.14 | Dagmar | ...and the police blotter. |
| 00:26.22 | Corrodias | i question your speculation as to why. |
| 00:26.29 | Jamash | I'm not saying the problem isn't real, I'm saying you are clueless about why it exists. |
| 00:26.31 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you probably wish your could live where i do, the cops said that 95% of all calls they get are juvenile related |
| 00:26.36 | Corrodias | yep |
| 00:27.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That would be Brentwood right there. I actually feel sorry for those guys because people will call them because a light bulb went out and they can't reach it. |
| 00:27.22 | Corrodias | you wouldn't be ignoring me now, would you? |
| 00:27.34 | Arrowmaster | the kids around here are major vandals |
| 00:27.37 | Jamash | 1. Accurately identifying that a problem exists and 2. figuring out why it exists and 3. figuring out what to do about it are completely independent processes |
| 00:27.41 | Corrodias | kids suck :< |
| 00:27.47 | Dagmar | No, i'm not ignoring you. I just know it's not _speculation_ |
| 00:27.57 | Jamash | you think you know |
| 00:28.03 | Dagmar | They were trying to get a precinct built here when I first moved over here. They were denied. |
| 00:28.11 | Corrodias | by whom? |
| 00:28.16 | Jamash | and you think the reason they gave was the real reason |
| 00:28.20 | Jamash | that's precious |
| 00:28.21 | Dagmar | They were denied specifically because of the budget allocation I'm talking about. |
| 00:28.25 | Corrodias | it may be |
| 00:28.33 | Arrowmaster | my neighbor has been told by most of the department that if they get a report about the teenagers getting paintballed they wont investigate it |
| 00:28.54 | karl_w_w | Had a long career in politics and city planning have you Dagmar? |
| 00:29.02 | Jamash | hehe |
| 00:29.18 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: I'd have killed a bunch of people by now if I were in that career track. |
| 00:29.21 | Dagmar | I can't stand those fuckers. |
| 00:29.29 | Jamash | can't understand them either apparently |
| 00:30.26 | Dagmar | It pisses me off every time I have to go deal with them. |
| 00:30.56 | Jamash | and why is that? |
| 00:31.32 | karl_w_w | entitlement complex |
| 00:31.43 | Jamash | shush I asked Dagmar |
| 00:31.49 | Dagmar | More like a natural reaction to corruption. |
| 00:32.23 | Jamash | okay, so you know that they're corrupt, but you think that the reason you can't get city services is because of their strict attention to census data |
| 00:33.01 | Jamash | and not, say, the fact that poor people don't donate to political campaigns |
| 00:33.49 | Arrowmaster | s/donate/bribe/ |
| 00:34.26 | Jamash | hey, hey, let's keep it classy when we're discussing scum-sucking political dirtbags |
| 00:34.36 | karl_w_w | s/s/donate/bribe//s/donate to/bribe/ |
| 00:34.37 | Jamash | "campaign donations" |
| 00:34.40 | karl_w_w | boom |
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| 00:34.51 | Jamash | LTS |
| 00:35.17 | Jamash | what the heck is wrong with my internets |
| 00:35.36 | karl_w_w | must be the fucking illegals, Jamash |
| 00:35.39 | karl_w_w | blame them |
| 00:36.03 | Jamash | clogging up the tubes with their mariachi music and giant hats |
| 00:36.43 | Jamash | seriously, what is wrong with my internets, I can send and receive data fine on established TCP connections but I can't make new ones |
| 00:36.52 | karl_w_w | dns? |
| 00:36.54 | Jamash | time to reboot the router |
| 00:37.01 | kd3 | dns stack--reboot your router |
| 00:37.03 | karl_w_w | fuckwit isp? |
| 00:37.03 | Arrowmaster | router tables could be full |
| 00:37.03 | Jamash | nope, even google |
| 00:37.04 | kd3 | I've run into that before |
| 00:37.10 | Jamash | ^Arrowmaster |
| 00:37.18 | kd3 | also restart your networking stack if you can |
| 00:37.34 | Jamash | let's see how many open connections I have |
| 00:37.45 | kd3 | also, idiot mother is an idiot -- just got home from the ER |
| 00:38.09 | kd3 | broke up a fight between one of her cats and a stray, tried to get her cat back in the house before it had calmed down |
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| 00:38.15 | kd3 | that did not. go. down. at. all. |
| 00:38.15 | BlackNet | how can i see raid lockouts from people in raid group with me? |
| 00:38.30 | Jamash | ah crap it's Miro making too many bittorrent connections |
| 00:38.35 | karl_w_w | BlackNet: /dbm lockout |
| 00:38.38 | BlackNet | common problem is this, some fucktard is saved to bh but trying to do it again |
| 00:39.08 | BlackNet | dont have dbm |
| 00:39.14 | kd3 | blood everywhere. first thought when I got to the house to take her to the hospital after realizing that she wasn't about to bleed out "Damn, you've really gone all out with the Halloween decorations this year, mom." |
| 00:39.18 | karl_w_w | there's no api to do it |
| 00:39.28 | karl_w_w | you need some addon to request the info |
| 00:39.44 | karl_w_w | and nearly everyone has dbm |
| 00:39.56 | BlackNet | so if they have dbm it will show lockouts but if they dont then what? |
| 00:40.09 | karl_w_w | it wont :P |
| 00:40.15 | karl_w_w | they also have to agree to it |
| 00:40.20 | kd3 | ask in /ra who's locked out? if they don't respond, break out the kicks |
| 00:40.22 | karl_w_w | a request comes up on their screen |
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| 00:40.24 | Jamash | apparently the "limit torrent connections to 25" preference doesn't mean what I think it does |
| 00:40.34 | kd3 | that's a per-torrent limit, apparently |
| 00:40.39 | Jamash | >_< |
| 00:40.46 | Jamash | ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 00:40.46 | karl_w_w | what client? |
| 00:40.55 | kd3 | there should be a global "total # of connections" option somewhere close by |
| 00:41.03 | karl_w_w | cos there are half-open connections as well |
| 00:41.18 | karl_w_w | in uTorrent half-open is in the advance settings somewhere |
| 00:41.41 | Mikk | "nearly everyone has dbm" <- lul |
| 00:41.45 | Mikk | i guess bigwigs doesnt exist |
| 00:42.06 | kd3 | indeed -- I refuse to use DBM ever since the whole "static goldseller ad on the site" fiasco |
| 00:42.17 | Jamash | where's my "stop all the downloadin'" button |
| 00:42.32 | Jamash | karl_w_w: Miro |
| 00:44.02 | karl_w_w | ofc bigwigs exist |
| 00:44.03 | BlackNet | i dislike dbm, to cluttering of my ui. i do use bigwigs |
| 00:44.04 | karl_w_w | s |
| 00:44.06 | Dagmar | I'm just glad they appear to have finally stopped that crap |
| 00:44.41 | Jamash | who looks at addon websites? |
| 00:44.54 | Jamash | I load curse, it updates, I close it |
| 00:45.12 | karl_w_w | point is, if you're trying to find out which tard is locked, they're much more likely to have dbm than anything else that'll tell you their lockouts |
| 00:45.39 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 00:46.05 | Jamash | oh look I closed miro and my tcp connections went down by half |
| 00:46.18 | karl_w_w | still sounds like a lot |
| 00:46.41 | Jamash | I'm going to use vuze for torrents instead of miro from now on |
| 00:46.48 | kd3 | eew, java |
| 00:46.54 | Jamash | oh noes |
| 00:47.11 | Jamash | yeah I know everyone loves utorrent now |
| 00:47.15 | Arrowmaster | use deluge |
| 00:47.25 | kd3 | I've actually swapped to ctorrent now |
| 00:47.41 | Jamash | what's so good about those? |
| 00:47.43 | kd3 | just need to write some kind of queue script for it so I don't have to do so manually |
| 00:47.54 | kd3 | ctorrent is barebones. written in c, doesn't even have a gui |
| 00:47.59 | Jamash | the thing I like about Azureus I mean Vuze is that I can tweak five billion things about it |
| 00:48.10 | Arrowmaster | deluge is open source? |
| 00:48.12 | BlackNet | ok i have a delima here |
| 00:48.20 | BlackNet | i have 666 units of elementium ore, what to do with it |
| 00:48.22 | Dagmar | ...and a spelling problem. |
| 00:48.37 | Arrowmaster | isnt that the stuff from BWL? |
| 00:48.44 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: http://svn.vuze.com/public/client/trunk/ ? |
| 00:48.55 | Arrowmaster | its not in java? |
| 00:48.58 | kd3 | but that's not all of the code last time I checked |
| 00:49.12 | Arrowmaster | yeah its not, vuze has closed parts too |
| 00:49.22 | Jamash | you don't get all the code from google with any of their projects either |
| 00:49.56 | Jamash | gosh golly a company that puts crunchy proprietary candy shell around a chewy FLOSS core, what will they think of next |
| 00:50.33 | Jamash | anyway Deluge looks pretty keen, I like headless operation |
| 00:50.41 | Arrowmaster | try it |
| 00:50.43 | Jamash | I had, um, Transmission I think on my server |
| 00:50.54 | Jamash | but I'm waiting for a replacement disk |
| 00:50.57 | Jamash | so it's offline |
| 00:51.36 | Jamash | some day I will set up a raid with sufficient redundant capacity to fail over so I don't have to take it down for a week each time a drive fails |
| 00:51.55 | Mikk | god i started reading that as a wow raid |
| 00:52.00 | Mikk | it was NOT making sense let me tell you |
| 00:52.48 | Jamash | even drives got left, odd drives got right |
| 00:52.55 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 00:53.01 | Mikk | g8 stays OOC for rezzes |
| 00:53.13 | kd3 | good grief, ooc rezzes |
| 00:53.16 | kd3 | has flashbacks |
| 00:53.19 | Mikk | ^^ |
| 00:53.21 | Mikk | god we sucked |
| 00:53.24 | Arrowmaster | i remember those |
| 00:53.34 | Jamash | if you mirror the blank disc over the data disk it will be a FIFTY DKP MINUS |
| 00:53.45 | Jamash | s/disc/disk/ |
| 00:53.52 | Arrowmaster | i remember when they stopped that and we finally tried without them and were like 'why did we even do that before?' |
| 00:54.17 | Jamash | yeah turns out having more healers is more effective than more rezzers |
| 00:54.23 | Jamash | whoda thunk it |
| 00:54.35 | Mikk | well we also had CTRA warnings spewing all over the place back when |
| 00:54.42 | Mikk | and noone had enough time to read them all |
| 00:54.52 | Mikk | so noone knew they were blowing up :P |
| 00:55.16 | Jamash | company my sister did QA for that shall remain nameless lost a weeks' worth of development because they mirrored the spare disk over the data disk |
| 00:55.28 | Jamash | many faces were palmed that day |
| 00:55.30 | Mikk | haha shieeet |
| 00:55.42 | Jamash | at least they had tape |
| 00:56.15 | Jamash | but seriously how do you become a sysadmin without learning that one |
| 00:56.20 | kd3 | I hope a head or two rolled for that |
| 00:57.13 | Jamash | I dunno, I think the developer was in the czech republic or something, they probably were using soviet surplus server hardware |
| 00:59.11 | Maldivia | well, I know some great decelopers from there |
| 01:00.10 | Jamash | she says maryland, I'm confusing two stupid developer tricks stories |
| 01:01.46 | Arrowmaster | kd3: see whos subbing shana? |
| 01:02.08 | kd3 | I saw SS-Eclipse came out of retirement |
| 01:02.17 | kd3 | that basically jumped the line in the queue |
| 01:02.52 | Arrowmaster | Mentar said SS asked for the joint and he couldnt refuse |
| 01:03.31 | kd3 | heh |
| 01:05.01 | Arrowmaster | im watching it right now but its been YEARS since the last season so im still trying to remember what all happened |
| 01:05.52 | kd3 | divine or whoever's covering it at randomc just marathoned both seasons. I'm probably going to do the same |
| 01:06.07 | Arrowmaster | i would have to redownload them |
| 01:06.26 | Arrowmaster | my old system that used to have them wont boot anymore |
| 01:08.42 | Arrowmaster | that or ill attempt to recover the drives when my new 3tb external gets here |
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| 01:52.03 | Cairenn | is absolutely stuffed on turkey and fixings |
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| 01:55.15 | airtonix | hey |
| 01:57.20 | airtonix | Cairenn: special day? |
| 01:58.00 | Cairenn | airtonix: It's Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada. We had our dinner early (tonight) because it was the most convenient for my sister and brother-in-law |
| 02:52.16 | Mikk | sometimes it really is a shame that you get full |
| 02:54.05 | Cairenn | Mikk: yep |
| 03:05.05 | Arrowmaster | kd3: this is a good night, new shana and new fate/zero |
| 03:06.50 | Arrowmaster | now just gota wait for somebody to sub new last exile |
| 03:06.58 | kd3 | indeed |
| 03:10.28 | Arrowmaster | rider is awesome |
| 03:11.54 | airtonix | wut |
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| 03:34.44 | eXemplar | so I'm trying to make a macro that invites the last person who whispered you into your guild, this is what I have so far: http://pastebin.com/zLVkZUBq |
| 03:34.59 | eXemplar | works fine in lua editor, but doesn't do jack in a macro, anyone bored enough to take a gander? |
| 03:43.44 | Xinhuan | maybe you should print(f[3]) instead of GuildInvite(f[3]) first |
| 03:52.27 | eXemplar | yeah I tried, seems like that string find doesn't play well in macros |
| 03:52.29 | eXemplar | for some reason |
| 03:56.55 | eXemplar | so yeah, was something to do with having a pipe in a macro |
| 03:58.35 | eXemplar | http://pastebin.com/kvVUnpxT seems to work |
| 03:58.55 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: oh? |
| 03:59.05 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 03:59.31 | Cairenn | "May have to cancel at a moment's notice"? |
| 03:59.46 | Xinhuan | it means, i may still have to cancel the trip |
| 03:59.51 | Cairenn | Awwww :( |
| 04:00.35 | Seerah | no trans-pacific flight for you? :( (I won't be there, but still sad that you might not be able to make it "at a moment's notice") |
| 04:00.57 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:01.02 | Seerah | though "no trans-pacific flight" might be a good or a bad thing, depending on who you ask :p |
| 04:01.03 | Cairenn | Well, hopefully it'll be for a happy reason ... |
| 04:01.07 | Xinhuan | it just means work may cause me to cancel the trip |
| 04:01.15 | Cairenn | bah, that's not a happy reason |
| 04:01.25 | Seerah | say "no!" |
| 04:02.10 | Xinhuan | company is willing to pay whatever i have already paid to cancel the trip, and sponsor my next year completely, if i decide so |
| 04:02.12 | Xinhuan | i haven't decided heh |
| 04:07.29 | Cairenn | Unfortunately, in today's economy, employers know that they have employees over a barrel (generally). So many people looking, you have to be careful not to piss them off or else you face the unemployment line. |
| 04:09.05 | airtonix | Cairenn: unless they know they won't find someone anywhere nearly as good to replace you |
| 04:09.27 | airtonix | that they can trust |
| 04:12.39 | Seerah | Xinhuan: oh, hmm... yeah, that would be a tough choice... |
| 04:13.23 | Seerah | you wouldn't get to come this year, but would get a free ride next year. Do you know for certain whether you will still be employed by them at this time next year? (just something to consider) |
| 04:13.52 | airtonix | you paranoid yet Xinhuan? |
| 04:14.07 | Seerah | ~lart airtonix |
| 04:14.07 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on airtonix |
| 04:14.15 | airtonix | :> |
| 04:14.34 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:14.39 | airtonix | i'm safe, since i'm always paranoid |
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| 04:15.37 | Silversage | airtonix: Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you. |
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| 04:22.10 | mckenziemc | hi blu |
| 04:23.10 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
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| 04:39.50 | airtonix | wut |
| 04:49.00 | eXemplar | is there any way to track who sets guild notes? |
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| 05:03.07 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:05.14 | bluspacecow | with or without an addon? |
| 05:05.23 | bluspacecow | pinkies in or pinkies extended ? |
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| 06:01.55 | airtonix | bluspacecow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcz2TXGvdGg&feature=player_detailpage#t=80s |
| 06:02.00 | airtonix | don't forget to upgoat |
| 06:02.15 | bluspacecow | kk |
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| 06:25.36 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: if you have to cancel, remember you still havent paid me for the ticket |
| 06:25.44 | Xinhuan | i know |
| 06:28.03 | Arrowmaster | goodnight |
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| 06:31.49 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/105400/ |
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| 07:31.23 | Snow_ | Good morning, folks. Anyone awake this early? |
| 07:31.43 | AcidWeb | Snow_ yes ;-) |
| 07:32.48 | Snow_ | Good to hear! Well now, I've got a spot of trouble and wondering if I can get a little advice. |
| 07:34.04 | Snow_ | Basically, I've been finding that SendAddonMessage fails silently when in WHISPER mode, even when the AddonMessagePrefix is registered. PARTY mode works fine, but isn't a viable substitute. Any ideas as to what my problem could be? |
| 07:37.20 | Snow_ | Ha! Grief, that's a silly mistake. Never mind, problem solved. |
| 07:38.26 | AcidWeb | Heh. |
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| 07:58.48 | Zasurus | Anywone know where is the minimap ping code kept now? I have found references to Minimap.lua in version 3.3 but the newest version of it just plays the sound on a minimap ping but no ping icon is shown or controlled yet oviously it IS shown in the game!? |
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| 08:10.50 | starlon | Deja Moo - The feeling you've heard this bull before. |
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| 08:15.10 | haste | Zasurus: https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/Minimap.lua#L136-147 |
| 08:16.12 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 08:16.14 | Fisker | i like you |
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| 08:20.34 | Zasurus | haste: Thanks |
| 08:22.13 | Zasurus | lob/live/FrameXML/Minimap.lua#L136-147 |
| 08:22.13 | Zasurus | [09:16.12] <Fisker> hey haste |
| 08:22.29 | Zasurus | :O |
| 08:22.37 | Zasurus | SOz didn't know what happened then! |
| 08:23.45 | Zasurus | haste: :( Thats the same on I am looking at (pretty much) the ping doesn't do anything but play the sound. After a bit of looking it apears that they must have made it part of the minimap it's self as of V4+ but it won't fire if the minimap is hidden! :O |
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| 08:27.00 | karl_w_w | Password must include upper and lower case letters, numbers and special characters and be at least 6 characters long! |
| 08:27.05 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 08:27.23 | Dagmar | hahahah |
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| 09:04.20 | airtonix | rages |
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| 09:47.49 | Mikk | Zasurus: plenty of stuff in the minimap is never UI-visible |
| 09:48.14 | Mikk | Like for instance the yellow tracking blips - we never see them, they're painted onto the texture. |
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| 10:58.59 | haste | Zasurus: if you were thinking of the actual ping, then yes, that seems to have been moved to the C side |
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| 11:01.45 | harl | wuff |
| 11:03.08 | airtonix | haste: umad? |
| 11:03.19 | airtonix | because I am. |
| 11:03.21 | haste | why should I be? |
| 11:03.33 | airtonix | So we can be mad together |
| 11:03.48 | airtonix | Never be mad alone. |
| 11:03.58 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 11:03.59 | Fisker | AGAIN |
| 11:04.06 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 11:04.58 | bluspacecow | fisker |
| 11:05.03 | bluspacecow | fisker fisker fisker fisker |
| 11:05.04 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 11:05.04 | Fisker | hey |
| 11:05.11 | blu|shower | <------ |
| 11:05.21 | Fisker | nah |
| 11:06.40 | airtonix | umad Fisker |
| 11:06.45 | airtonix | bemad |
| 11:06.49 | Fisker | nah |
| 11:06.58 | airtonix | DOOOOOOOOEEEEETTT! |
| 11:07.11 | airtonix | i will kill you Fisker |
| 11:07.33 | Fisker | nope |
| 11:07.41 | airtonix | :< |
| 11:08.37 | blu|shower | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/293519_10150331006091641_157102206640_8436385_510150773_n.jpg |
| 11:08.39 | blu|shower | fisker IRL |
| 11:08.41 | blu|shower | BRB |
| 11:15.30 | airtonix | umadnowfisker? |
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| 11:37.57 | Fisker | nope airtonix |
| 11:37.59 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 11:38.37 | bluspacecow | yessum ? |
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| 11:50.42 | Fisker | umad? |
| 11:51.11 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 11:51.16 | bluspacecow | ihungrybro |
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| 12:35.23 | airtonix | kills Fisker |
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| 13:22.08 | Kraps | http://yfrog.com/ny2fggj |
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| 14:47.51 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/767ad06851573eba833bff17c26e1622.png |
| 14:49.16 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: wth is up with sorting there? |
| 14:49.27 | jnwhiteh | they're sorted my PSR |
| 14:49.30 | jnwhiteh | i.e. rating |
| 14:49.32 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 14:49.48 | foxlit | The triangle on the XP/Min column seems to indicate it should be sorted by that, but it's not. |
| 14:49.59 | jnwhiteh | UI issue then =) |
| 14:50.08 | jnwhiteh | its always sorted by PSR, which isn't a column |
| 14:50.17 | jnwhiteh | until you explicitly change teh sort |
| 14:58.26 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:58.30 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 14:58.33 | Fisker | running ICS on Nexus One yet? |
| 14:59.24 | jnwhiteh | no |
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| 15:03.47 | Arrowmaster | hmm i upgraded from CM7.0.3 to CM7.1RC1 on my nexus s and the battery life seems to have drastically increased |
| 15:03.48 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 15:10.41 | airtonix | Kraps: lawl |
| 15:12.20 | airtonix | Fisker: give ics NAO! |
| 15:12.27 | Fisker | oh ok airtonix |
| 15:12.30 | airtonix | or i will fvking end you |
| 15:13.01 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 15:13.40 | airtonix | my cat just walked on my keyboard and a miraculous amount of profanity was generated |
| 15:15.21 | airtonix | anyway Fisker what's so good about ics ? |
| 15:15.50 | airtonix | i mean it's still 1 version number below the iOS 5... so it must be inferior |
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| 16:19.20 | jnwhiteh | Cide: amro: apparently 1670 is the sweet spot |
| 16:21.04 | Cide | jnwhiteh: that's very nice :) |
| 16:21.37 | bluspacecow | *mimes in time to La Traviata* |
| 16:21.56 | bluspacecow | *opera air guitar style* |
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| 16:24.25 | jnwhiteh | Cide: I'm getting into games with people within a 20 mmr range of me, which means they're mostly competant |
| 16:24.32 | jnwhiteh | which makes for longer games that are a bit closer =) |
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| 16:42.53 | bluspacecow | @jnwhiteh u make base on cograil yet ? |
| 16:43.01 | jnwhiteh | I've had a base since like day one |
| 16:43.07 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 16:43.10 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 16:43.10 | cogwheel | use signpost search on the map |
| 16:43.13 | cogwheel | for jim |
| 16:43.31 | bluspacecow | just that i run across someones mine and they were using the xmine concept you guys were using on the old server |
| 16:43.37 | bluspacecow | i assume it was yours :) |
| 16:43.40 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh Cide bluspacecow cogwheel |
| 16:43.51 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: http://minecraft.cogwheel.info/maps/Overview/#/101/64/-1364/-2/mcmapNormal is my home |
| 16:43.52 | bluspacecow | Fiskery Fisker |
| 16:43.53 | cogwheel | ohey |
| 16:43.58 | jnwhiteh | my mine is right below that |
| 16:44.02 | jnwhiteh | and is x-mine =) |
| 16:44.05 | Fisker | what bluspacecow ? |
| 16:44.11 | bluspacecow | hai |
| 16:44.13 | Fisker | why can't i join your server cogwheel ? |
| 16:44.17 | jnwhiteh | penis |
| 16:44.18 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 16:44.21 | cogwheel | pretty much |
| 16:44.38 | cogwheel | or more literally, because you're not whitelisted |
| 16:44.38 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: I'm *considering* moving here tho |
| 16:44.40 | jnwhiteh | http://minecraft.cogwheel.info/maps/Overview/#/-15/64/-1547/-2/mcmapNormal |
| 16:44.41 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: are there any specific series i might need to have seen first to keep up with this new gundam this season? |
| 16:44.48 | jnwhiteh | building a nice large house above the lake |
| 16:45.01 | cogwheel | speaking of penises, anyone else notice the distinct lack of lava penises and other structures on the new server? :> |
| 16:45.09 | jnwhiteh | ssh don't tell mikma |
| 16:45.10 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 16:45.18 | jnwhiteh | we'll have lava penii everywhere! |
| 16:45.22 | Fisker | you promised cogwheel |
| 16:45.31 | cogwheel | i don't think josma would let him mar their vistas ;) |
| 16:45.44 | jnwhiteh | yss is insane http://minecraft.cogwheel.info/maps/Overview/#/1132/64/79/-3/mcmapNormal |
| 16:45.55 | bluspacecow | it was weird - it had a ladder going up from the door right up to the top of a tall hall with dirt blocks on each side and torches all the way up it |
| 16:46.12 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: hrm |
| 16:46.16 | bluspacecow | the door lead straight down in a stair way where someone was using the cross mining method of mining |
| 16:46.19 | jnwhiteh | that might have been my original hovel |
| 16:46.20 | cogwheel | indeed. But at least he's using up the cobble we get from branch mining :) |
| 16:46.33 | bluspacecow | yay |
| 16:46.45 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/GMHfG.jpg |
| 16:46.50 | jnwhiteh | bluspacecow: here? http://minecraft.cogwheel.info/maps/Overview/#/141/64/-815/max/mcmapNormal |
| 16:47.35 | cogwheel | Adys: see 2 jnwhiteh links above if you haven't seen yssaril's grinder island yet (it's WIP) |
| 16:48.12 | cogwheel | oh i also told him he should recreate his biosphere in the nether and i'd creative mode in a grassy block for it :) |
| 16:49.37 | bluspacecow | yeah possibly jmwhite |
| 16:49.41 | bluspacecow | @karl that link is win |
| 16:49.45 | Adys | cogwheel: do you have a screenshot of it ingame? |
| 16:50.14 | cogwheel | the grinder? no. |
| 16:51.08 | karl_w_w | that's why I shared blu :P |
| 16:51.48 | Fisker | umad cogwheel ? |
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| 17:06.54 | Shirik | Fisker: http://www.hs.fi/fingerpori/1135269639040 |
| 17:07.37 | Fisker | i don't get it Shirik |
| 17:07.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:08.26 | Shirik | I am told the joke is "On tullut äitiinsä" could mean both "he's taken after his mother" and "he came in his mother" |
| 17:09.01 | Fisker | i came in your mom |
| 17:09.16 | Gagorian | Shirik: That is true |
| 17:09.37 | Fisker | i did what had to be done Shirik |
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| 18:16.26 | Shirik | (11:14:33) (+nagios-wm) RECOVERY - RAID on srv215 is OK: OK: no RAID installed |
| 18:16.30 | Shirik | why does this not sound like an "OK" |
| 18:16.57 | Fisker | i killed you Shirik |
| 18:17.01 | Fisker | i watched you die |
| 18:17.02 | Shirik | nope |
| 18:17.09 | Fisker | then who did i watch die? |
| 18:17.41 | Shirik | your mom |
| 18:17.42 | Shirik | hoho |
| 18:17.45 | Shirik | Ù©(â¢Ì®Ì®Ìâ¢Ì)Û¶ |
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| 18:19.38 | bluspacecow | Hmmm |
| 18:19.55 | bluspacecow | Have there ever been any PTR builds pushed out during a weekend ? |
| 18:20.05 | bluspacecow | or is it strictly M-F on those? |
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| 18:55.51 | Fisker | jnwhiteh pls |
| 18:55.56 | Fisker | not gotten my free wow yet |
| 18:56.00 | Fisker | what to do Shirik bluspacecow or jnwhiteh ? |
| 18:56.12 | Shirik | go play one of your other 5000 games |
| 18:56.29 | bluspacecow | imma go habiernate nows |
| 18:56.37 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 18:56.38 | Fisker | pls |
| 18:56.42 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:56.48 | Fisker | i want my free wow Shirik |
| 18:56.54 | Fisker | not on my other 5000 games |
| 19:00.13 | Shirik | listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BwOXlGbW6Q |
| 19:00.16 | Shirik | it will make you happy again |
| 19:00.37 | Fisker | no |
| 19:00.41 | Fisker | ctrl+w'd |
| 19:00.44 | Fisker | within seconds |
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| 19:02.58 | Shirik | WHAT |
| 19:03.01 | Shirik | how can you hate desparado |
| 19:03.05 | Shirik | it is like |
| 19:03.18 | Shirik | the best song in the history of ever |
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| 19:08.35 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 19:08.47 | Mike-N-Go | Greetings, Cairenn|afk |
| 19:08.55 | Fisker | afk = away from keyboard Mike-N-Go |
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| 19:14.25 | BlackNet | is there some plugin that gives me % breakdown on herbs, like for vol life by herb |
| 19:14.32 | BlackNet | and by zone |
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| 19:17.55 | Jamash | hiyo |
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| 19:43.53 | Mr_Rabies | <Arrowmaster> Mr_Rabies: are there any specific series i might need to have seen first to keep up with this new gundam this season? |
| 19:43.57 | Mr_Rabies | nope, it's totally original |
| 19:44.15 | Arrowmaster | thats what i thought i heard but i wasnt sure |
| 19:44.20 | Mr_Rabies | also i haven't seen it yet but from what i've seen it's definitely aimed at younger kids |
| 19:45.02 | Arrowmaster | ah, i might just checkout the first ep then or wait for a review |
| 19:48.31 | cogwheel | woot! http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=guanophrenic |
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| 20:30.22 | BlackNet | someone give me some ideas for a gnome warrior name please |
| 20:36.39 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
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| 20:46.51 | Thunder_Child | BlackNet: Snowball |
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| 21:00.01 | Jamash | BlackNet: Gnomismatic |
| 21:00.23 | Jamash | Gnomerology |
| 21:01.00 | Fisker | http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=120988&d=1318136532 |
| 21:01.02 | Fisker | nom nom nom |
| 21:01.13 | Jamash | don't eat that |
| 21:01.45 | Jamash | What are those funky angled things on the right |
| 21:02.19 | Fisker | which right? |
| 21:02.27 | Jamash | the right side |
| 21:02.31 | Fisker | you mean the heatsink? |
| 21:02.36 | Fisker | or do you mean the sata ports? |
| 21:02.41 | Jamash | I don't know, do I? |
| 21:02.55 | Jamash | blue things with silver things with a roman numeral III on it |
| 21:03.12 | Fisker | heatsink |
| 21:03.25 | Shirik | needs to be LGA 2011 |
| 21:03.30 | Jamash | wots it sinking heat from |
| 21:03.31 | Fisker | it is LGA 2011 |
| 21:03.33 | Fisker | umad Shirik ? |
| 21:03.36 | Fisker | PWM's Jamash |
| 21:03.39 | Shirik | wtb then |
| 21:03.44 | Shirik | That's what I'm waiting for |
| 21:03.45 | Jamash | I don't know what a PWM is |
| 21:04.03 | Shirik | pulse width modulation I assume, but that's not exactly a verb |
| 21:04.19 | Shirik | or a noun |
| 21:04.21 | Shirik | actually what is it |
| 21:04.29 | Thunder_Child | heh, UEFI bios |
| 21:04.33 | Jamash | pressurised water mreactor |
| 21:04.36 | Shirik | can 3 words be a part of speech? |
| 21:04.48 | Fisker | idk what they call it |
| 21:04.52 | cogwheel | could you pulse width modulate someone? |
| 21:04.55 | Fisker | but it's the shit that regulates power to the CPU |
| 21:04.59 | Shirik | you could modulate someone |
| 21:05.09 | Jamash | I pulse width modulated your mom all night |
| 21:05.24 | Fisker | y u heh Thunder_Child ? |
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| 21:06.13 | Fisker | actually |
| 21:06.15 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: issues Fisker, issues |
| 21:06.18 | Fisker | it's called "Digi+ VRM" |
| 21:06.51 | Fisker | http://www.ixbt.com/mainboard/asus/p8p67-deluxe/cpu-pwm.jpg |
| 21:06.53 | Fisker | those motherfuckers |
| 21:07.06 | Jamash | I see a smiley face |
| 21:07.16 | Jamash | and or a chargin mah lazor face |
| 21:07.35 | Fisker | anyway Shirik |
| 21:07.44 | Fisker | IB-E + 8x8GB memory? |
| 21:07.46 | Fisker | Success? |
| 21:07.47 | Jamash | Fisker: I'm chargin' mah capacitors |
| 21:08.00 | Jamash | s/rs/rz/ |
| 21:08.04 | Fisker | i thought the small black fuckers were mosfets |
| 21:08.14 | Shirik | <billgates>Who could need that much memory</billgates> |
| 21:08.16 | Fisker | and the square grey thingies were chokes or some shit |
| 21:08.20 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 21:08.24 | Fisker | stop misquoting my god |
| 21:08.34 | Stanzilla | Fisker: why 8x8? |
| 21:08.36 | Fisker | i need 64GB of memory for Minecraft |
| 21:08.50 | Fisker | 8x16GB will probably not be in a great price range Stanzilla |
| 21:08.51 | Shirik | Stanzilla: So that you can use dual channel and quad channel at the same time!!! |
| 21:09.07 | Fisker | OHICWUTUDIDTHERE Jamash |
| 21:09.09 | Shirik | On a more serious note why not 4x16 |
| 21:09.19 | Fisker | probably still more expensive |
| 21:09.26 | Fisker | it was actually funny |
| 21:09.26 | Shirik | but you have 4 free slots |
| 21:09.43 | Fisker | yeah but more expensive as in "twice as expensive" |
| 21:09.57 | Fisker | but it was actually funny |
| 21:10.05 | Shirik | become a trader like me |
| 21:10.10 | Shirik | and you will have infinite money |
| 21:10.10 | Fisker | When they released consumer 8GB DDR3 here a couple of months ago |
| 21:10.35 | Fisker | 8GB DDR3 were more expensive than 8GB Registered DDR3 ECC |
| 21:10.38 | Fisker | i lulz'd |
| 21:10.50 | Shirik | wat |
| 21:10.59 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:11.02 | Fisker | no kidding |
| 21:11.04 | Jamash | ah but how much does the motherboard to put your registered ECC ddr in cost |
| 21:11.21 | Fisker | irrelephant Jamash |
| 21:11.27 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 21:11.34 | Fisker | it was in terms of cost for us but in terms of cost for the producer |
| 21:11.47 | Jamash | what'sa biggada gray animala what lives in africa? |
| 21:11.49 | Shirik | You should try the pasta, it's got a real nice profit margin |
| 21:11.49 | Fisker | Unregistered DDR3 will always be less expensive to make than registered DDR3 |
| 21:12.27 | Jamash | same clock speed/latency? |
| 21:12.29 | Fisker | better than your moms profit margin atleast |
| 21:12.47 | Fisker | pretty sure it was Jamash but it was a few months ago |
| 21:13.04 | Jamash | probably just low initial volume then |
| 21:13.24 | Jamash | how many consumers need 8GB |
| 21:13.46 | Shirik | "oops, I accidentally underestimated demand" |
| 21:13.55 | Shirik | oh well, price = price * 2 |
| 21:13.59 | Shirik | fixed! |
| 21:14.09 | Jamash | or low yield due to manufacturing fuckup |
| 21:14.10 | Fisker | icwutudidthere |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | on a side note |
| 21:14.32 | Jamash | anyhoo zoom star wars saga edition rpg night go go go |
| 21:14.39 | Shirik | how the fuck did the iphone 4s sell out on the first night |
| 21:14.51 | Shirik | it's not THAT different. I mean I only got one because I'm still using a POS blackberry |
| 21:14.55 | Jamash | how did blizzcon tickets sell out in 14 seconds |
| 21:14.55 | Fisker | supply and demand Shirik |
| 21:14.56 | Shirik | but there are not that many blackberries out there |
| 21:15.01 | Fisker | dude Shirik |
| 21:15.02 | Fisker | DUDE |
| 21:15.08 | Fisker | you got an iPhone 4S? |
| 21:15.09 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:15.10 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:15.12 | Fisker | i hate you Shirik |
| 21:15.15 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:15.16 | Jamash | the S stands for Shirik |
| 21:15.29 | Jamash | also Sucks to be you, Fisker |
| 21:15.31 | Fisker | i don't get why Android postponed Nexus Prime |
| 21:15.53 | Jamash | it also stands for "Steve Jobs died to bring you this phone" |
| 21:15.54 | Thunder_Child | respect |
| 21:15.57 | Fisker | you'd think the only one showing Apple some respect is everyone but apple themselves who are just like "Pls buy our products, our former CEO just died" |
| 21:16.08 | Shirik | I would not have gotten one if verizon had carried the galaxy s2 |
| 21:16.11 | Shirik | but they chose not to :( |
| 21:16.14 | Fisker | get the nexus prime Shirik |
| 21:16.15 | Fisker | pls |
| 21:16.17 | Shirik | no |
| 21:16.39 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:17.04 | Fisker | why would you get an iphone Shirik ? |
| 21:17.08 | Jamash | the secret behind Siri is that it's actually the damned immortal soul of steve jobs trapped in a server at apple hq answering your requests |
| 21:17.20 | Fisker | i'm not sure that's a great idea Jamash |
| 21:17.44 | Shirik | it's not a great idea |
| 21:17.46 | Shirik | it's a brilliant idea |
| 21:17.50 | Fisker | not sure how many snide arrogant responses customers are going to take before throwing it out |
| 21:17.51 | Shirik | goes to patent the technology |
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| 21:18.00 | Fisker | now that's a great idea Shirik |
| 21:18.01 | Fisker | anyway |
| 21:18.04 | Fisker | why would you iphone? |
| 21:18.05 | Fisker | pls? |
| 21:18.10 | Shirik | to spite you |
| 21:18.19 | Fisker | oh well |
| 21:18.20 | Fisker | your money |
| 21:18.22 | Fisker | ell oh ell |
| 21:18.41 | Jamash | Listen, I didn't solder him into a pentagram and draw out his life force so that his spirit could undergo the unending torment of people asking "Siri where can I get hot chicks" |
| 21:18.52 | Bruners | Fisker: what do you think about Nokia N9 ? |
| 21:18.52 | Jamash | so don't blame me |
| 21:18.58 | Fisker | noty.jpg Bruners |
| 21:19.31 | Jamash | didn't nokia leave the phone market |
| 21:19.38 | Fisker | they should |
| 21:19.47 | Fisker | what about microsoft? |
| 21:19.53 | Fisker | y dey in the business of meego? |
| 21:19.55 | Jamash | oh that's right they just signed up for the zune phone |
| 21:21.04 | Jamash | showing the same level of business sense and market acumen that brought you the N-Gage |
| 21:21.06 | Bruners | Fisker: I'm thinking about getting it tbh |
| 21:21.19 | Fisker | why? |
| 21:21.48 | Bruners | Fisker: it seems to be awesome |
| 21:21.49 | Jamash | because he hates himself, obviously |
| 21:22.28 | Fisker | i disagree Bruners |
| 21:23.13 | Jamash | is it time for "meego, it doesn't"? |
| 21:24.03 | Fisker | "Meego, android some places, iphone the other places" |
| 21:24.16 | Jamash | but not the half that eats? |
| 21:24.41 | Gnarfoz | I continue to be amazed at how fucked up the US cellular market seems to be... only the networks themselves selling phones? I can buy any phone I like here, most of the networks subsidize/offer a large (and overlapping) number of models, and anyone goes with any network |
| 21:25.04 | Gnarfoz | "if network X carried phone Y, I would've bought it" wtf |
| 21:25.20 | Arrowmaster | its because of how fucked up the US spectrum is |
| 21:25.32 | Jamash | s/ spectrum/ |
| 21:26.17 | Arrowmaster | you cant get a phone that works with more than 1 of the 4 major providers unless its a 2g only phone, then you can get a gsm phone that will work on both att and tmobile |
| 21:27.23 | Bruners | doesn't all phones have tripplequad band supporting all spectrums ? or is that disabled by the providers? |
| 21:27.41 | Arrowmaster | you can get a quad band gsm phone but thats only for the gsm bands |
| 21:28.09 | Gnarfoz | eh? |
| 21:28.12 | Arrowmaster | there are 3 incompatible formats being used between the providers, only att and tmobile share a format |
| 21:28.17 | nebula169 | verizon and sprint are cdma |
| 21:28.38 | Gnarfoz | isn't the iPhone4s cdma2k + umts? |
| 21:28.39 | Arrowmaster | i thought verizon and sprint used different 3g formats |
| 21:29.17 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: anyway, I don't get the "it's because of the spectrum" stuff, why would that stop anyone from just selling both versions of the phone? it's just a different modem :F |
| 21:29.47 | Gnarfoz | also, there's only 2 different techs, so how would it be that you can only get a phone that works with 1 out of 4 |
| 21:29.56 | Arrowmaster | they do, i bought my phone from bestbuy and they had multiple versions of the phone for different carriers |
| 21:30.16 | Gnarfoz | sidenote: yum, vodka + malibu + oj |
| 21:30.34 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: Because the network monopolies want to lock you in and the government won't do anything about it because the government is in the pocket of the network monopolies |
| 21:30.35 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 21:30.49 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: because they dont make the phones able to use the different frequencies, my att phone cant use tmobile 3g frequencies |
| 21:31.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: networks don't make phones |
| 21:31.07 | Gnarfoz | what is this ^^ |
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| 21:31.27 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: but networks sell phones, and so phone manufacturers make phones for networks |
| 21:31.28 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: monowhat? they can only lock you in, if you buy a phone from them that has a network lock - so don't? :< |
| 21:31.31 | Fisker | it's the land of the "free" |
| 21:31.44 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: You think they sell phones that aren't locked in the US? |
| 21:31.46 | Bruners | so if you buy a danish phone you can use all the US networks ? |
| 21:31.52 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: uhm, that's exactly my point: the only place that they do that for is the US |
| 21:32.05 | Jamash | and? |
| 21:32.20 | Arrowmaster | if you buy a phone in europe you can use it with att for 2g or tmobile for 2g and 3g |
| 21:32.22 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: except for the cdma2k/umts difference, probably? (i.e. 2 out of 4, not sure which network uses what) |
| 21:33.11 | Jamash | ciao |
| 21:33.24 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: "and" - it seems really bad for the user, that's my only point; see above about Shirik getting a different phone just because his network doesn't carry the one he'd have favored |
| 21:33.31 | Mikk | Bruners: that's what's known as "roaming". you get excellent connectivity. and pay through the nose |
| 21:33.31 | Gnarfoz | durrr, too late |
| 21:33.43 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: huh? roaming is not related to this |
| 21:34.05 | Gnarfoz | he obviously meant while using a SIM from a US network |
| 21:34.07 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: its terrible for the user, the networks dont give a fuck though because they lock you in with the phone |
| 21:34.16 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: great \o/ :( |
| 21:34.31 | Mikk | it's called libertarianism guys |
| 21:34.38 | Mikk | total freedom |
| 21:34.41 | Fisker | it's the same lulz where they think they should decide what you can use your mobile data for |
| 21:34.42 | Mikk | for companies to fuck you in the ass |
| 21:34.43 | Fisker | it's hilarious |
| 21:35.01 | Mikk | the rest of the world has a different definition for libertarianism but hey |
| 21:35.40 | Fisker | Armored Vehicles have the ability to sprint |
| 21:35.41 | Fisker | I disagree |
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| 21:39.08 | Fisker | don't you Gnarfoz ? |
| 21:39.37 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:44.00 | Silversage | Wish some disinterested party had a great cell phone plan comparison site showing TCO. |
| 21:44.27 | Fisker | i'm glad Gnarfoz |
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| 22:06.49 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 22:06.51 | Fisker | you're up late |
| 22:16.48 | jnwhiteh | am i? |
| 22:17.12 | Silversage | Hey, jnwhiteh, we haven't crossed paths in a while. |
| 22:17.20 | Silversage | How's that accent coming? |
| 22:17.39 | jnwhiteh | I use some more british words, but my accent is still quite clearly central ny =) |
| 22:18.17 | haste | I'm up as well Fisker ! |
| 22:18.20 | haste | not that I know why |
| 22:19.11 | jnwhiteh | Silversage: =) |
| 22:20.11 | Maldivia | heh |
| 22:21.00 | jnwhiteh | g'night! |
| 22:21.01 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 22:21.02 | Fisker | me too |
| 22:21.03 | Fisker | no jnwhiteh |
| 22:21.05 | Fisker | stay with us |
| 22:21.54 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 22:22.13 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 22:22.25 | Fisker | now what? |
| 22:22.27 | Fisker | now we kiss? |
| 22:22.35 | haste | not sure, maaaaybe |
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| 22:49.27 | Silversage | jnwhiteh: :D and gn |
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