| 00:02.06 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gufXf67qBcc |
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| 00:12.54 | kd3 | whuh? is the new build not on the public mirrors? |
| 00:29.27 | foxlit | it's not live :/ |
| 00:29.42 | foxlit | Everyone going "ZOMG PATCH ON PTR!!@#!@#!@#!@" is kind of annoying when it isn't :( |
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| 01:17.30 | Jamash | trueshot aura is now better for rogues than hunters |
| 01:17.33 | Jamash | QQQQQQQQ |
| 01:18.04 | kullervo | melee AP gets buffed all across |
| 01:18.29 | Jamash | why not just give all melee 10% more AP all the time |
| 01:19.25 | kullervo | pvp for one |
| 01:19.41 | Jamash | sarcasm for one |
| 01:19.57 | kullervo | the detector gadget's broken, sorry |
| 01:22.00 | Jamash | CHAIN LIGHTNING SPAM |
| 01:22.21 | Jamash | oh god the multiboxers are going to have five simultaneous nerdgasms each |
| 01:25.08 | Jamash | 3.3's looking pretty sweet |
| 01:25.14 | Jamash | I mean 4.5 |
| 01:25.17 | Jamash | I mean god damn it |
| 01:25.27 | Jamash | YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN |
| 01:25.46 | kullervo | I see nerfs to my class and bad set bonuses |
| 01:25.50 | kullervo | I'm not at all excited |
| 01:26.26 | Jamash | I'm talking about non-balance changes |
| 01:26.44 | Jamash | tech changes have me excited |
| 01:26.45 | kullervo | balance changes? |
| 01:26.47 | kullervo | hahaa good joke |
| 01:26.52 | Jamash | stfu |
| 01:27.16 | kullervo | no really, holy palas are perhaps the worst pvp healers as it is |
| 01:27.49 | Jamash | if you want balance go play quake deathmatch |
| 01:28.03 | Jamash | s/want/want perfect/ |
| 01:37.20 | Cide | how are the balance changes bad |
| 01:37.32 | Cide | resto druids nerfed, ai |
| 01:37.41 | Cide | resto shamans buffed |
| 01:37.59 | Cide | melee dps buffed |
| 01:38.14 | Cide | unless you're playing a resto druid in which case QQ MORE |
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| 01:49.15 | Shirik | hey Cide |
| 01:49.20 | Cide | hi my dear Shirik |
| 01:49.24 | Shirik | teach the ones below you something you've learned, and learn from the ones above you |
| 01:49.44 | Cide | holy is bad until 4.3? |
| 01:49.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:50.00 | Cide | we're now 5/7 heroic yay |
| 01:50.35 | Cide | what're you up to |
| 01:58.56 | Cide | ignoring me ohokay |
| 02:06.14 | Thunder_Child | dont feel bad Cide, Shirik ignores everyone |
| 02:09.00 | Cide | true |
| 02:17.45 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/09/27/patch-4-3-guild-masters-can-now-be-impeached/ |
| 02:18.06 | Kraps | is shirik part bot now? |
| 02:19.23 | pompy | http://www.gamerant.com/half-life-2-episode-3-protest-tao-106695/ haha |
| 02:22.40 | Kraps | they're still there? |
| 02:26.38 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: no, he is all bot |
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| 02:31.15 | Shirik | Kraps: Was I ever not part bot? |
| 02:31.27 | Kraps | idk |
| 02:32.14 | Thunder_Child | *psst* (Kraps, the answer is no) |
| 02:32.36 | Thunder_Child | well actually, it would be yes, you are always part bot |
| 02:32.45 | Kraps | you keep quoting lame inspirational stuff |
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| 02:40.47 | mckenziemc | how does bibi get the patch files to datamine before the patch is released to the PTRs |
| 02:41.11 | kd3 | they've changed the mirror layout. I can usually pull it off too but the mpqs are in different spots now? |
| 02:41.29 | Arrowmaster | remember we used to have the patches early in here too |
| 02:42.03 | Arrowmaster | somebodys server got raped when somebody linked a patch on a forum |
| 02:42.12 | Arrowmaster | was that your server Thunder_Child? |
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| 02:43.18 | tem | So a while back they talked about severely buffing tank threat |
| 02:43.28 | tem | was that a hotfix or is it in a future patch? |
| 02:43.33 | mckenziemc | hotfix |
| 02:43.36 | tem | or maybe in a patch they already deployed |
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| 02:45.05 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i dont think so. I dont remember hosting any patches |
| 02:45.40 | Arrowmaster | then i completely forget who it was |
| 02:45.58 | Arrowmaster | but they had multiple terabytes of data usage in one day |
| 02:48.51 | Cide | tem: it was definitely hotfixed |
| 02:49.00 | tem | thanks |
| 02:49.23 | Cide | the 4.3 patch notes just bring people not paying attention to hotfixes up to date |
| 02:50.33 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:50.57 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 02:52.27 | Cairenn | Hey Sargeras? |
| 02:52.31 | Cairenn | 22 sleeps! |
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| 03:04.14 | Sargeras | 22 sleeps what? |
| 03:04.52 | Cairenn | 'till BlizzCon travel! |
| 03:04.56 | Sargeras | oh yes! |
| 03:04.58 | Sargeras | haha |
| 03:05.23 | Sargeras | there will be drinks and hugs to be had |
| 03:05.24 | Sargeras | oh yes |
| 03:05.31 | Cairenn | Oh yes! |
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| 03:06.08 | kd3 | ! http://magicalgametime.com/post/10727414369/for-some-reason-all-the-wind-went-out-of-my-sails |
| 03:06.10 | Arrowmaster | still no decision on whats happening with the dinner? |
| 03:06.12 | kd3 | also, yay drinks at blizzcon |
| 03:06.28 | Cairenn | Yes! |
| 03:06.38 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: not yet :p |
| 03:08.43 | Sargeras | Cairenn cooking |
| 03:08.47 | Sargeras | nomnom |
| 03:08.57 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:10.38 | Sargeras | and Dolby DJ's |
| 03:10.46 | Sargeras | we call him "pally-D" |
| 03:11.08 | Sargeras | (if he remembers that joke) |
| 03:11.41 | Cairenn | hehehehehe |
| 03:12.34 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster we're actually going to go to Benihana |
| 03:12.42 | Shadowed | except everyone has to cook the food for themselves |
| 03:12.43 | Cairenn | We are? |
| 03:12.45 | Cairenn | hahahah |
| 03:12.59 | Sargeras | Dont make me juggle the knives |
| 03:13.05 | Sargeras | unless you like your fingers |
| 03:13.09 | Arrowmaster | i still want to goto the catch and get the giant burger |
| 03:13.28 | Arrowmaster | but its too far to walk to |
| 03:16.26 | dolby | hey Sargeras :) |
| 03:16.46 | dolby | you know whats funny... havent played a pally in more than a year now. |
| 03:16.47 | Sargeras | hello sir |
| 03:16.52 | Sargeras | WHAT |
| 03:17.10 | Sargeras | that's how I will always remember you :( |
| 03:17.14 | dolby | hehe |
| 03:17.22 | dolby | playing a mage in raids now |
| 03:18.04 | dolby | hehe yeah just like you'll always be a troll war |
| 03:18.44 | dolby | scratchin your butt |
| 03:19.57 | Sargeras | you loved that |
| 03:20.07 | Sargeras | and the corpse humpin' |
| 03:20.46 | Sargeras | Heiken down! BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM |
| 03:28.47 | dolby | hehehe |
| 03:29.36 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 04:05.12 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 04:05.16 | Fisker | y u drink? |
| 04:10.33 | Fisker | Sixen |
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| 04:10.35 | Fisker | my back |
| 04:10.36 | Fisker | :( |
| 04:11.03 | Sixen | ? |
| 04:11.19 | Fisker | it hurts |
| 04:19.40 | Thunder_Child | your neck, your back Fisker? |
| 04:19.55 | Fisker | your mom? |
| 04:20.23 | Thunder_Child | your face? |
| 04:20.54 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 04:30.29 | Blu|Laundry | @fisker your mom |
| 04:33.34 | Arrowmaster | oh what the fuck |
| 04:33.48 | Arrowmaster | my mplayer was playing 10bit h264 fine and now it wont |
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| 05:01.12 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 05:01.22 | Shirik | why so unfisker |
| 05:02.09 | Shirik | so apparently one of the aircraft I work on was on CNBC |
| 05:02.10 | Shirik | today |
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| 05:39.50 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:40.52 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 06:04.08 | Fisker | will you do time for treason Shirik ? |
| 06:04.15 | Shirik | no |
| 06:04.38 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 07:32.07 | Mr_Rabies | any cool new UI stuff in 4.3 yet? :O even if it's just stuff in the default UI i've somehow missed? |
| 07:32.22 | Mr_Rabies | i noticed transmogrification had a new, better UI |
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| 08:01.21 | Fisker | i'm sure it does Mr_Rabies |
| 08:01.29 | Fisker | especially considering that it was just implemented in 4.3 |
| 08:10.21 | haste | god forbid that they could have made improvements after the initial public screenshots! |
| 08:13.40 | Fisker | this years sex-..con? was too hot haste |
| 08:14.16 | Fisker | there were loud banging noises from the building |
| 08:14.21 | Fisker | and the firemen pulled out too early |
| 08:14.28 | Fisker | giggles |
| 08:14.42 | Fisker | get it haste ? |
| 08:15.15 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:22.13 | Fisker | pls haste |
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| 08:24.18 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 08:24.21 | Fisker | haste is a jerk |
| 08:24.22 | Fisker | halp |
| 08:24.46 | Kalroth | poor fisker, always being harrased :( |
| 08:24.52 | ckknight | you're a jerk, Fisker |
| 08:24.56 | ckknight | lern2cope |
| 08:24.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:25.03 | Fisker | halp Kalroth |
| 08:25.07 | Fisker | haste and ckknight are being jerks |
| 08:25.16 | ckknight | Kalroth: be a jerk to Fisker |
| 08:25.20 | ckknight | I command thee |
| 08:25.37 | Kalroth | hey fisker, i heard you play the sims online |
| 08:25.54 | Fisker | i don't |
| 08:26.03 | Kalroth | also i have 2 spare diablo 3 keys, you aren't going to get one |
| 08:26.41 | Fisker | prove it |
| 08:26.59 | Kalroth | okay i'm going prove it by giving you a .. wait a minute |
| 08:27.18 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:30.40 | haste | Fisker: will my amp. arrive today? |
| 08:30.49 | Fisker | only if my D3 beta arrives today |
| 08:31.03 | mikma | no. |
| 08:31.10 | haste | then I do hope you get your 1h30m d3 beta Fisker |
| 08:32.01 | mikma | you mean thats how long he'll play before he gets banned? |
| 08:32.20 | Fisker | i never get banned! |
| 08:32.42 | haste | mikma: no, the d3 beta is about 1h30m of content, less if you are good! |
| 08:32.51 | Fisker | i disagree haste |
| 08:33.19 | mikma | haste: aaaahhhahahhahahhaaa |
| 08:33.42 | mikma | haste: you mean 3d beta for fisker ;P |
| 08:35.56 | haste | I DUN GET IT :( |
| 08:36.39 | mikma | HE SO BAD! |
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| 08:41.50 | Industrial | Can someone explain to me why presentation slide share websites exist? I keep finding results of them in google for technical presentations and then am let down that all I can see is some keywords on a sheet with no comments and no text and no video. How is that even helping? Could it be helping other people? Isn't the essence of a slide that it's complimentary to the actual content of a |
| 08:41.52 | Industrial | presentation? |
| 08:44.15 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 08:44.16 | Fisker | you there? |
| 08:44.42 | haste | Industrial: some, have PDF notes posted or a video posted somewhere |
| 08:44.55 | haste | Industrial: most are just the slides however, which is pretty.. meh indeed |
| 08:45.00 | tekkub_ | well written slides lead the presenter |
| 08:45.07 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gufXf67qBcc |
| 08:45.08 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 08:45.16 | tekkub_ | so you don't *need* to hear them talk to know what they're talking about |
| 08:45.30 | tekkub_ | sadly very few people write good slides |
| 08:45.41 | Industrial | or tape presentations |
| 08:46.15 | tekkub_ | github has a kinect camrabot that does it for us |
| 08:46.26 | tekkub_ | we need to rent it out to confs |
| 08:47.22 | haste | you loose so much by not having the audio for the slides |
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| 08:53.10 | jnwhiteh | Cide: any thoughts? =) |
| 08:56.37 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 08:56.41 | Fisker | the haterer of fiskers |
| 08:58.25 | jnwhiteh | hi |
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| 08:59.36 | ckknight | haters gonna hate |
| 09:01.56 | Fisker | it's like |
| 09:02.02 | Fisker | jnwhiteh is the smartest guy in the world |
| 09:02.12 | jnwhiteh | because I hate you? |
| 09:02.17 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:02.19 | Fisker | that hurts |
| 09:02.41 | Fisker | Anyway i was wondering if you know what the android recovery status codes are |
| 09:02.54 | Fisker | or if you have a link that explains them etc. |
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| 09:10.54 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: not sure what you mean by recovery status codes |
| 09:12.29 | Fisker | like how it'll say "Hey dick, error" |
| 09:12.43 | Fisker | for example i got some failing with a status code 0 |
| 09:22.05 | jnwhiteh | but where is this happening? |
| 09:22.16 | jnwhiteh | what are you doing when this error pops up? |
| 09:22.20 | Adys | Fisker: hi |
| 09:26.25 | Fisker | jnwhiteh just installing an update with an app in it |
| 09:26.37 | Fisker | i'll just link you the thread |
| 09:26.43 | Fisker | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17933841 |
| 09:26.48 | jnwhiteh | I mean, those are just unix exit codes |
| 09:26.54 | jnwhiteh | there's no particular meaning to them |
| 09:27.02 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 09:27.15 | jnwhiteh | you can look into the recovery source and see why a given exit code might happen |
| 09:27.23 | jnwhiteh | but they invoke lots of external processes, so its a bit tough to say, I think |
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| 09:31.29 | airtonix | guess what fisker |
| 09:31.51 | airtonix | i got another beta invite |
| 09:32.36 | Fisker | you cannot get another anything until you have something to begin with |
| 09:32.47 | Fisker | feel free to prove it by sending me the invite though |
| 09:33.46 | airtonix | it's only valid for myself |
| 09:34.23 | airtonix | like it has the public key of my dna |
| 09:34.27 | airtonix | so yeah |
| 09:35.05 | Fisker | not really airtonix |
| 09:35.17 | airtonix | you're just jealous |
| 09:35.32 | airtonix | you don't know me, JUST LEAVE ME ALONE |
| 09:35.53 | Fisker | jealousy is for when you have something i really want |
| 09:35.54 | Kalroth | hugs airtonix |
| 09:36.07 | starlon | Like a beta? |
| 09:36.30 | starlon | teases. |
| 09:36.41 | Fisker | and since he doesn't have it i can't be jelly starlon |
| 09:36.52 | starlon | no fun |
| 09:36.54 | airtonix | that's how he rationalises it |
| 09:37.07 | airtonix | you know how the human psyche has coping mechanisms? |
| 09:37.32 | Fisker | umad airtonix ? |
| 09:37.51 | airtonix | only if you are |
| 09:39.33 | acethebunny | Corrupted Fire Hawk is so sexy... but why the hell can it not be mounted where flying isn't allowed... :| |
| 09:39.50 | airtonix | isn't it obviou acethebunny? |
| 09:40.59 | acethebunny | no ... |
| 09:41.22 | acethebunny | every other flying mount can be mounted where flying isn't allowed... including the Pureblood Fire Hawk |
| 09:44.15 | airtonix | so you assume that explains it? |
| 09:49.32 | bluspacecow | PTR's up guys anyone working on PTR updates yet ? |
| 09:49.36 | bluspacecow | or waiting till it goes live ? |
| 09:53.15 | airtonix | hey bluspacecow |
| 09:53.22 | bluspacecow | yessum |
| 09:53.28 | Fisker | PTR has been up for years |
| 09:53.29 | airtonix | i got another beta invite |
| 09:53.36 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 09:53.43 | bluspacecow | is fisker jelly ? |
| 09:53.55 | airtonix | in denial |
| 09:53.58 | Fisker | if he actually had bluspacecow then i would be :) |
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| 10:07.22 | Jamash | receiving a beta invite that you sent to yourself does not count |
| 10:08.55 | Jamash | especially if it's an invitation to your own unbirthday party |
| 10:09.10 | Fisker | imad Jamash |
| 10:09.11 | Fisker | imad. |
| 10:09.38 | Fisker | finally |
| 10:09.47 | Fisker | the first tier 12 paladin drops |
| 10:09.50 | Fisker | and it's ret :( |
| 10:10.11 | Jamash | I thought we were beyond tier droops |
| 10:10.38 | Jamash | isn't this the glorious golden token future? |
| 10:12.56 | Fisker | this was baradin hold |
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| 10:13.18 | Jamash | more like badradin old |
| 10:13.37 | Fisker | owned |
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| 10:15.24 | Jamash | woot |
| 10:15.29 | Jamash | I got a ptr invite |
| 10:16.01 | Adys | anyone here who's able to repair cables? (usb-like somewhat) |
| 10:16.21 | Jamash | I know how to operate a roll of electrical tape |
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| 10:17.32 | Fisker | :O |
| 10:17.37 | Fisker | sweet |
| 10:17.41 | Fisker | i got 2 ptr invites |
| 10:18.31 | acethebunny | o.o? |
| 10:22.14 | Fisker | why does opening the mailbox run the map animation? |
| 10:23.47 | Cairenn | night all |
| 10:24.09 | acethebunny | it shows you are busy, Fisker |
| 10:24.16 | acethebunny | same as reloading your UI does |
| 10:31.12 | Fisker | oh |
| 10:31.18 | Fisker | i thought it was only supposed to be for the map though D: |
| 10:33.14 | haste | Fisker: yeah, I thought it looked like a map as well, but it is intended =\ |
| 10:33.50 | airtonix | umad? |
| 10:34.53 | airtonix | Fisker: i just emailed "the beta invite" to you |
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| 10:38.41 | Jamash | oh man if I had tons of money I would totally buy one of these for my sister without telling her http://www.jbox.com/product/PRE554 |
| 10:38.59 | Fisker | you don't even know my email airtonix |
| 10:39.06 | Jamash | although she might have a heart attack and/or punch me through the internet |
| 10:40.06 | airtonix | hopefully both |
| 10:40.19 | Kalroth | fisker@fiskars.com |
| 10:40.49 | Jamash | I thought it was ballmer@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk |
| 10:41.03 | airtonix | Fisker: thats some nice people you have in your dicks circle |
| 10:41.06 | airtonix | tsssssssss |
| 10:42.18 | Fisker | you don't know who is in my dicks circle |
| 10:42.28 | airtonix | i know you have one |
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| 10:46.45 | Fisker | ulz |
| 10:46.47 | Fisker | lulz |
| 10:47.02 | Fisker | got epic kodo and epic dagger and 14 brewfest tokens in the same keg |
| 10:48.56 | airtonix | wow is easymode |
| 10:50.07 | Jamash | I found your mom in my brewfest keg |
| 10:50.46 | Fisker | that's odd |
| 10:50.50 | Fisker | cause your mom is a brewfest keg |
| 10:50.56 | airtonix | kinky |
| 10:51.15 | Kalroth | that's odd, I dressed myself as Fiskers mom and hid in Jamash's brewfest keg |
| 10:51.34 | Kalroth | wait that isn't odd |
| 10:51.40 | airtonix | pervert |
| 10:52.16 | Kalroth | ya |
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| 10:53.42 | Jamash | [witty comment placeholder] |
| 10:53.48 | Jamash | I'll be back after I get some sleep |
| 10:54.30 | Kalroth | I'll join you |
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| 11:02.06 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3279039153 |
| 11:02.16 | bluspacecow | probably why recount is freezing on the PTR |
| 11:02.29 | bluspacecow | maybe maybe not |
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| 11:06.28 | Fisker | hi bluspacecow |
| 11:06.40 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 11:07.13 | Fisker | You're katie frigon |
| 11:08.03 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 11:09.00 | Fisker | yuuuus |
| 11:09.03 | Fisker | i know her password |
| 11:09.06 | Fisker | pass123 |
| 11:09.07 | Fisker | safe |
| 11:32.46 | Industrial | drowssap |
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| 11:36.35 | Maldivia | *smirk* http://i.imgur.com/Nad1G.jpg |
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| 12:00.36 | Shirik | why does that look shopped |
| 12:02.24 | Kraps | Shirik: you can tell by the pixels and having seen shops in your day? |
| 12:04.11 | Maldivia | Shirik: it most likely is, doesn't mean it's not correct/funny :P |
| 12:07.05 | airtonix | Shirik: it was actually gimped |
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| 12:14.37 | airtonix | hey Fisker, it's offically time for a courage pill |
| 12:16.59 | Cide | HELLO SHIRIK |
| 12:17.05 | Shirik | HELLO CIDE |
| 12:17.20 | Shirik | YOU SHOULD BUY STOCKS |
| 12:17.20 | Shirik | IN PANCAKES |
| 12:17.26 | Cide | clearly |
| 12:17.36 | mikma | stockcakes |
| 12:17.37 | airtonix | no syrup? |
| 12:17.46 | Maldivia | s/stocks/stockings/i |
| 12:18.18 | Shirik | I forget where I saw this |
| 12:18.40 | airtonix | Shirik: are those pancakes Grylls approved? |
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| 12:31.09 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:32.25 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:32.30 | Fisker | also hello Cide and Shirik |
| 12:32.43 | Cide | hi |
| 12:33.07 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 12:33.26 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I'll put that aside for lunch, breakfast is blueberry muffins and I don't think trout tastes good with fruit. |
| 12:34.34 | mitch0 | lua> print(0/0) |
| 12:34.34 | lua_bot | mitch0: -nan |
| 12:36.24 | Shirik | waves at Lopeppeppy |
| 12:40.02 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Shirik! How's the stock ticker today? |
| 12:40.27 | Shirik | well the markets haven't opened but everything suggests that I should be good today |
| 12:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | Huzzah! I will eat a rice cake in celebration! *nom* |
| 12:41.08 | Shirik | heh |
| 12:41.34 | Shirik | actually the markets have been surprisingly predictable this month |
| 12:41.51 | Industrial | what are you doing with markets then? |
| 12:42.32 | bluspacecow | *fondles a Peppy* |
| 12:42.53 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh la la |
| 12:42.54 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8c554fbb8c39503be1845a5b904bd00f.png |
| 12:43.03 | Shirik | I entered that position on monday |
| 12:43.16 | Shirik | when it reaches up near the 14.91 resistance level I will be looking to get out |
| 12:44.11 | Industrial | Shirik: 3 weeks ago? |
| 12:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | I disapprove of red ticky marks. |
| 12:44.16 | zenzio | interesting. I was having issues where while logged in on SSH, I'd suddenly become a different user, and my SVN commits were registered as his |
| 12:44.21 | Shirik | hm? |
| 12:44.22 | zenzio | turned out I shared a user ID with another person |
| 12:45.05 | Shirik | Industrial: What about 3 weeks ago? |
| 12:45.32 | Industrial | Shirik: either I'm reading that wrong but I see the red line going down cross the horizontal one at 14.91 at +/- 25% in september, so thats 3 weeks ago? :P |
| 12:46.20 | Shirik | that's just the 50-day moving average |
| 12:46.31 | Shirik | it crossing the horizontal line is nothing more than a coincidence |
| 12:46.54 | Shirik | I drew it that far so that I could actually read the number on it |
| 12:47.06 | airtonix | hey Shirik |
| 12:47.10 | Shirik | well actually no it really should be drawn that gar |
| 12:47.11 | Shirik | far |
| 12:47.18 | airtonix | guess what |
| 12:47.20 | Shirik | but still that's not important :) |
| 12:47.41 | Shirik | hey airtonix |
| 12:49.23 | Shirik | Industrial: What is important is the crossover where the red arrow is, where eto the left the horizontal line marks a support level (it bounces up off it) and then to the right it marks a resistance level (it bounces down off it) |
| 12:49.50 | Shirik | which shows this level has been significant since june |
| 12:52.16 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP0PEBPUs |
| 12:53.07 | karl_w_w | lua> 4/.15 |
| 12:53.08 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: 26.666666666667 |
| 12:54.00 | Shirik | the URL contained a malformed video ID |
| 12:54.06 | Shirik | sorry about that |
| 12:54.12 | Shirik | but they're not really sorry |
| 12:54.24 | Shirik | they're just saying secretly behind their backs "man that Kraps guy is such a noob" |
| 12:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | Noob is as noob does! |
| 12:54.58 | Lopeppeppy | I adore forrest gump. |
| 12:55.04 | Kraps | you know something Shirik |
| 12:55.10 | Kraps | you're a jerk |
| 12:55.14 | Shirik | :( |
| 12:55.20 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP0PEBPUs-s |
| 12:57.07 | Shirik | Kraps: lol |
| 12:58.15 | Kraps | the kicker is at the break the weather wipe comes on |
| 12:59.43 | Shirik | lol I didn't notice that |
| 13:01.44 | Shirik | wat |
| 13:01.51 | Shirik | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-stock-futures-flat-europe-crisis-in-focus-2011-09-28?link=google < URL titled "us stock futures flat" |
| 13:02.03 | Shirik | actual title: "U.S. stock futures gain; Europe crisis in focus" |
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| 13:19.19 | Kraps | http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/9/20/38eb1e09-33b8-44ff-82b7-468ea46776cf.jpg |
| 13:22.46 | Lopeppeppy | I need a racing snail. |
| 13:26.39 | airtonix | http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294570_236974763017160_100001139133453_648412_696122482_n.jpg |
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| 13:45.46 | haste | my amp. finally cleared customs Fisker ! |
| 13:45.48 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy? |
| 13:47.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yes dear? |
| 13:47.56 | Shirik | racing snail? |
| 13:48.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes. I think that is more reasonable than the orange crocodile I wanted yesterday. |
| 13:48.49 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/neverending%201%20racing%20snail.jpg |
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| 13:53.46 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 13:55.40 | haste | fiskermen |
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| 14:01.33 | Fisker | sup haste |
| 14:01.35 | Fisker | umad? |
| 14:02.04 | Kalroth | Fisker: http://i54.tinypic.com/2nu88qg.png |
| 14:02.33 | haste | Fisker: yy, want to blow magic blue-somke out of my headphones |
| 14:02.49 | Fisker | never forget 9/28 Kalroth |
| 14:03.23 | Kalroth | never forget |
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| 14:08.17 | Fisker | The day when the sex convention was too hot for KB hallen, firemen pulled out early and banging noises were heard |
| 14:08.34 | Ackis | bluspacecow: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3278899242 |
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| 14:10.08 | bluspacecow | not sure ackis |
| 14:10.18 | bluspacecow | i know they'll contact you again if they need more info |
| 14:10.30 | bluspacecow | and there is an email for their supervisors if you want to pass a message on |
| 14:10.41 | bluspacecow | not sure what the coverage is in the CSF atm |
| 14:10.55 | Ackis | it's more like I get ticket response, I respond to ticket saying "Thank you" |
| 14:10.59 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 14:12.16 | Lopeppeppy | I know that in my ticket system that *reopens* the bloody ticket and I have to go and close it again. |
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| 14:12.52 | Ackis | that's what I think happens so I don't do it, but it seems rude /shrug |
| 14:12.57 | Ackis | is a polite Canadian, sorry eh |
| 14:14.05 | Lopeppeppy | When I'm chatting with them, yes, very much so. In an automated ticket system via email, not so much. |
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| 14:17.40 | Ackis | I remember once I chatted with a GM and got mad at him, spoke to his supervisor |
| 14:17.40 | Ackis | I told the supervisor to let me talk to him so I could apologize :( |
| 14:20.52 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKqb040RRtw epi |
| 14:20.54 | Shirik | epic too |
| 14:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. I very much didn't talk to the guy who screwed up my car last month. Or I'd have been in jail. |
| 14:21.04 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:21.10 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 14:21.18 | Shirik | pro tip, protective stops are there to protect you. don't cancel them. |
| 14:21.21 | Ackis | hey Shirik I hate guardian spirit |
| 14:21.27 | Shirik | I know Ackis me too |
| 14:21.47 | Ackis | hey guys I can play holy on heroic domo because wings will save the tank! |
| 14:21.49 | Ackis | uses wings. |
| 14:21.51 | Ackis | tank dies |
| 14:21.53 | Ackis | O_o |
| 14:21.58 | Ackis | goes back to disc. |
| 14:22.24 | Shirik | yup |
| 14:22.26 | mitch0 | shirik: that video is too static |
| 14:22.54 | Fisker | i was technically correct Shirik |
| 14:22.59 | Fisker | which is the best kind of correct |
| 14:23.27 | Ackis | Shirik: what do you think about the divine hymn talent changes? |
| 14:23.35 | Shirik | epic win |
| 14:24.01 | Ackis | makes me sad |
| 14:24.08 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:24.11 | Ackis | still not powerful as disc IMO |
| 14:24.13 | Shirik | why sad |
| 14:24.13 | Ackis | hi Fisker |
| 14:24.23 | Shirik | I can't go disc |
| 14:24.41 | Ackis | is it more powerful than tranq? |
| 14:24.51 | Shirik | I think it is |
| 14:25.06 | Shirik | until testing you can never really be sure |
| 14:25.44 | Ackis | I couldn't figure out how much of a CD tranq was on... 8 mins, but are there talents that affect it? |
| 14:26.19 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 14:26.28 | Shirik | ask Cide he's a traitor |
| 14:28.06 | Shirik | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/09/28/1344218/European-Users-Overwhelm-Facebook-With-Data-Requests |
| 14:28.09 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/bXVzA.png <-WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO ME?! |
| 14:28.48 | Shirik | win |
| 14:29.31 | Lopeppeppy | I read that as "date requests", and I was wondering where mine were. |
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| 14:30.13 | Kraps | firefox 7 is out |
| 14:30.36 | Kraps | but mine says it's up to date :/ |
| 14:30.41 | Kraps | i'm using 5 |
| 14:31.31 | foxlit | some fixes made it into 4.3 <3 |
| 14:31.48 | Lopeppeppy | Just because a new version is "out" doesn't mean it's the stable version they are pushing on their auto download, Kraps. |
| 14:32.09 | Kraps | this is the new stable one http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ |
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| 14:33.10 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't mean it's the stable version they are pushing on their auto download yet. |
| 14:33.53 | Lopeppeppy | If you want it, go get it. It's not uncommon for them to have a stable release ready on the site before they start autopushing it. |
| 14:34.13 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/09/firefox-7-arrives-with-reduced-memory-footprint.ars?comments=1#comment-22105405 |
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| 14:39.40 | haste | when it comes to mozilla -- it isn't uncommon that they have a stable release out before the release date |
| 14:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly. Enjoy it if you want it, or ignore it if you're not interested. All good. |
| 14:42.44 | Dagmar | I thought you were supposed to piss and moan about it and say things like "It's about time" to let everyone know that you still don't have a damn clue how to interpret the output of memory utilization managers. |
| 14:43.14 | Kraps | Dagmar: i could do that if you want |
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| 14:44.56 | Ackis | toaster baths. |
| 14:45.20 | Kraps | thats dangerous Ackis |
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| 15:00.19 | [Wobin] | Ackis: inorite? yay atonement |
| 15:00.56 | [Wobin] | it's actually a smart heal that not limited by range |
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| 15:03.31 | Ackis | well attonement sucks for fights like rag |
| 15:03.59 | [Wobin] | hasn't done Rag yet |
| 15:04.23 | [Wobin] | you spend more than 100yards away from each other? |
| 15:04.31 | [Wobin] | er, 'spend' |
| 15:04.38 | [Wobin] | 'range' =P |
| 15:04.57 | Ackis | rag has a hit box so big but attonement only heals pets/shadowfiends |
| 15:05.14 | [Wobin] | Ackis: you've seen the new atonement, right? |
| 15:05.35 | Ackis | yeah it takes in to effect hit box sizes (which is nice) |
| 15:05.49 | [Wobin] | "Atonement now affect a friendly target within 100 yards, up from 15." |
| 15:07.33 | Ackis | I was hoping for more changes to holy that would let me play holy instead of disc =/ |
| 15:07.42 | Fisker | hey [Wobin] |
| 15:07.44 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:07.51 | Fisker | i wanted to transfer my character to the PTR |
| 15:07.51 | Fisker | bam |
| 15:07.52 | Ackis | divine hymn is a good start, but raid bubble > it still |
| 15:07.52 | Fisker | no dice |
| 15:08.01 | Ackis | Fisker: I logged in to the PTR this morning |
| 15:08.04 | Ackis | you told me I couldn't |
| 15:08.05 | Ackis | LIAR |
| 15:08.05 | [Wobin] | You can use DH more often! |
| 15:08.17 | Fisker | i didn't Ackis |
| 15:08.38 | [Wobin] | Ackis: tranq is talented down to 3 min |
| 15:08.46 | Ackis | how is DH going to save a tank on major domo heroic? |
| 15:09.02 | [Wobin] | Ackis: I never said it would, I just said you could! |
| 15:09.14 | Stanzilla | Ackis: why would you need to save a tank on majordomo heroic? |
| 15:09.34 | Ackis | strat is that the tank takes the scorpion cleave solo |
| 15:09.47 | Stanzilla | better strat is to not take cleaves at all |
| 15:10.16 | Ackis | I've only done 3 attempts in it |
| 15:10.23 | Ackis | one of those attempts was one where guardian spirit failed |
| 15:10.24 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:10.51 | Stanzilla | after the change to the cleave you gain like 5s or so when you let the tank soak a cleave |
| 15:10.56 | Stanzilla | totally not worth the extra hassle |
| 15:11.08 | [Wobin] | resto shammy healing got a weird buffer boost |
| 15:11.43 | Stanzilla | Ackis: so now you run together, wait till ~5s on the cleave timer, run back out |
| 15:13.12 | Cide | Ackis: tranq is on 8 min, reduced to 3 by resto talents |
| 15:13.24 | Ackis | how many are needed to transition him from cat to scorpion? |
| 15:13.30 | Cide | in 10 man? 7 |
| 15:13.30 | Ackis | Cide: what's the talent called? |
| 15:13.35 | Cide | fuck if I know |
| 15:13.36 | Ackis | 25 man |
| 15:13.44 | Cide | shift+J |
| 15:13.48 | [Wobin] | oh wow. I like the new imp lava lash |
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| 15:14.10 | Cide | Malfurion's Gift |
| 15:14.22 | [Wobin] | hello more decent enh aoe |
| 15:14.37 | Cide | holy's Divine Hymn will be competitive with tranquility for sure |
| 15:14.49 | Cide | and will give holy a much needed raid cooldown |
| 15:14.57 | [Wobin] | boo to wildgrowth nerf =( |
| 15:15.17 | Cide | qqmoar |
| 15:16.13 | [Wobin] | I might bring my priest back into play |
| 15:16.23 | Cide | el oh el? |
| 15:16.25 | [Wobin] | or gear up my shammy... hm |
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| 15:16.34 | Cide | after being overpowered for forever you give up your druid because of a 20% nerf? |
| 15:16.38 | Cide | to one spell? |
| 15:16.40 | [Wobin] | no |
| 15:16.48 | [Wobin] | because priests got a buff =) |
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| 15:16.56 | Dagmar | Oh, well.. THat's okay then. |
| 15:17.03 | Cide | holy priests became viable again |
| 15:17.06 | [Wobin] | also, cause my shammy is just hitting 85 |
| 15:17.13 | Cide | that's about it |
| 15:17.23 | [Wobin] | I always liked the atonement mechanic |
| 15:17.27 | Dagmar | So long as I can open a pack of cigarettes, light one, and get a fresh soda from the fridge before I have to cast another HoT I'm happy |
| 15:17.27 | [Wobin] | for disc priests |
| 15:17.50 | Cide | it's meh |
| 15:17.57 | Cide | rarely useful |
| 15:18.01 | Stanzilla | our resto shammy is still crying |
| 15:18.12 | [Wobin] | btw, would there be any issue with combat logging on Beth'ilac, with some people being upstairs? |
| 15:18.20 | Cide | very much doubt it |
| 15:18.22 | Stanzilla | and atonement is mighty useful if it does 100y range now |
| 15:18.35 | Cide | 100 yard range is likely just misparsed |
| 15:18.41 | Cide | not to mention that it's still on par with Heal spam |
| 15:18.47 | [Wobin] | well, 10yards is not good |
| 15:18.53 | Cide | which hardly makes it useful |
| 15:18.56 | Stanzilla | heal spam |
| 15:18.58 | Stanzilla | does not do dmg |
| 15:19.02 | Stanzilla | so atonement > heal spam |
| 15:19.03 | Cide | 8k dps |
| 15:19.06 | Cide | is not damage either |
| 15:19.21 | Cide | how often can you realistically spam Heal anyway |
| 15:19.23 | Stanzilla | discs can do better than that |
| 15:19.24 | [Wobin] | There are a number of fights I could have used 8k dps on =P |
| 15:19.26 | Cide | 10 seconds a minute? |
| 15:19.31 | Stanzilla | for example on heroic majordomo |
| 15:19.42 | Cide | oh really? |
| 15:19.54 | Cide | I guess I would know being a disc priest, having killed heroic majordomo |
| 15:19.56 | Ackis | halfus |
| 15:20.02 | Cide | halfus is such a difficult fight too |
| 15:20.09 | [Wobin] | well halfus cheats |
| 15:20.12 | [Wobin] | with the damage buff |
| 15:20.36 | Cide | the dps requirement on heroic majordomo is so relaxed with the nerf that 8k dps is useless |
| 15:20.44 | Cide | make it 16k if you never get hit and it's still useless |
| 15:21.05 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 15:21.05 | Cide | we 9-manned it last night with like a minute to spare on the enrage timer |
| 15:21.07 | Stanzilla | "after the nerf" is not important :p |
| 15:21.19 | Cide | of course it is |
| 15:21.35 | Cide | it was trivial without atonement pre-nerf as well |
| 15:21.51 | [Wobin] | what's the new wrath look like? |
| 15:21.51 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 15:22.18 | Stanzilla | good disc priests to up to 24k dps on majordomo |
| 15:22.19 | Stanzilla | so yeah |
| 15:22.22 | Stanzilla | *do |
| 15:22.32 | Cide | on 25 man maybe |
| 15:22.37 | Stanzilla | nah, 10m |
| 15:23.02 | Cide | that's some impressive numbers when everybody else is pulling like 45k+ |
| 15:23.14 | Cide | atonement has its uses on a few encounters but it's hardly worth calling essential |
| 15:23.16 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-ommdipeakdfutyhp/sum/damageDone/?s=3713&e=4080 |
| 15:23.30 | Stanzilla | it helps overcoming dps checks |
| 15:23.32 | Stanzilla | on progress |
| 15:23.53 | Cide | well yes |
| 15:23.56 | [Wobin] | aw, the resto shammy health buffer doesn't stack from multiple shammies =P |
| 15:24.04 | Cide | if you three-heal majordomo I'm sure you can spare a priest spamming smite |
| 15:24.15 | Cide | or you can bring a real dps since it's trivial to two-heal that encounter |
| 15:24.32 | Cide | 24k <<< 45k |
| 15:24.39 | Cide | how's that for progression |
| 15:25.02 | Cide | or dare I say 52k which was the top dps in the parse you linked |
| 15:25.14 | [Wobin] | that priest was top of heals |
| 15:25.24 | Cide | no doubt |
| 15:25.27 | [Wobin] | so it's not exactly 'sparing' him |
| 15:25.30 | [Wobin] | or her |
| 15:25.42 | Cide | healing is a first come first serve kind of thing |
| 15:25.57 | Stanzilla | I agree that the paladin there is basicly useless |
| 15:26.02 | Stanzilla | he was only there for loot |
| 15:26.04 | nevcairiel | smite healers might top the metters, but they are not reliable |
| 15:26.08 | nevcairiel | meters* |
| 15:26.17 | Cide | and only on that encounter no less |
| 15:26.51 | Cide | you could replace the smite healer with a real dps, or you could replace the paladin and force the smite healer to not smite |
| 15:27.03 | Cide | with two healers you need to actually heal the ranged as well |
| 15:27.04 | [Wobin] | shrugs. |
| 15:27.19 | Cide | I mean atonement isn't too bad |
| 15:27.30 | [Wobin] | That's the wonderful thing about this game. You don't have to stick to one way of doing things to get things done |
| 15:27.34 | Cide | but its biggest use is archangel |
| 15:27.46 | Stanzilla | I just think it's underestimated |
| 15:28.02 | Cide | Shirik: and yes, I am a traitor |
| 15:28.03 | Stanzilla | *getting |
| 15:28.08 | Cide | I'm shadow most of the time |
| 15:28.24 | [Wobin] | I think if the priest is enjoying himself smitespamming, and stuff is going down, then it's all good. |
| 15:28.33 | Stanzilla | same here :p |
| 15:28.35 | Cide | [Wobin]: that doesn't really fly |
| 15:28.42 | [Wobin] | Cide: Sure it does. |
| 15:28.50 | [Wobin] | that's why it's a game |
| 15:28.57 | [Wobin] | because people are there to enjoy themselves |
| 15:29.04 | Cide | I mean I enjoy long walks on the beach, but if push comes to shove you gotta bring out some real spells |
| 15:29.06 | Stanzilla | [Wobin]: that's a "progress is done"-reason |
| 15:29.17 | [Wobin] | no no, you go walk on the beach right now |
| 15:29.22 | [Wobin] | RIGHT NOW |
| 15:29.55 | Cide | I'll pass |
| 15:29.57 | [Wobin] | nope |
| 15:29.59 | [Wobin] | no choice |
| 15:30.04 | [Wobin] | you have to go walk on the beach |
| 15:30.07 | [Wobin] | a nice long one |
| 15:30.13 | [Wobin] | otherwise the raid will wipe |
| 15:30.17 | [Wobin] | and it'll be your fault |
| 15:30.32 | [Wobin] | (see how much sense this is making?) |
| 15:32.14 | Cide | I think my raid has a larger risk of wiping if I go do some random shit instead of playing at the top of my ability |
| 15:32.15 | Kraps | leeroy jenkins didnt walk on the beach and look what happened |
| 15:32.51 | [Wobin] | Personally, I think if you're not having fun in your role, you need to change role. |
| 15:33.25 | Cide | what I enjoy with healing is getting things done and keeping people alive |
| 15:33.30 | [Wobin] | But then, I'm not a hardcore raider |
| 15:33.31 | Cide | not doing so with a specific subset of my spells |
| 15:33.42 | [Wobin] | When did this become about you? =P |
| 15:33.43 | Cide | which is why I regrettably am disc instead of holy |
| 15:33.54 | Cide | I'm only giving my perspective |
| 15:33.59 | Cide | plus, you're the one forcing long walks on me |
| 15:34.00 | [Wobin] | You probably think this song is about you =P |
| 15:34.29 | Ackis | Cide: do you have two different gear sets for disc/holy? |
| 15:34.29 | Cide | but sure |
| 15:34.29 | [Wobin] | No one is forcing you to smitespam |
| 15:34.36 | Cide | Ackis: no, I only have a disc spec atm |
| 15:34.45 | [Wobin] | all I'm saying, is that if someone enjoys it, let them enjoy it |
| 15:34.50 | Ackis | I'm wearing my holy gear as disc |
| 15:34.52 | [Wobin] | it may not be perfect for you |
| 15:34.56 | [Wobin] | but that's alright |
| 15:35.02 | [Wobin] | you're not everyone else |
| 15:35.04 | Ackis | e.g. holy == mastery, disc == haste |
| 15:35.10 | Cide | yep |
| 15:35.28 | Cide | [Wobin]: maybe I have everything backwards but I thought raiding was about killing shit |
| 15:35.36 | nevcairiel | If they enjoy something that doesnt fit into your raid setup, then that person either has to adapt to the setup, or someone else comes along. You may enjoy being a melee priest, would you expect to be taken on raids like that? :P |
| 15:35.45 | [Wobin] | I thought playing a game was all about enjoying it. |
| 15:35.47 | Ackis | Cide, Shirik: what do you guys think of the T13 bonuses for holy/disc? |
| 15:36.02 | [Wobin] | but hey, what do I know =P |
| 15:36.07 | [Wobin] | I'm not a hardcore raider =P |
| 15:36.24 | Cide | so do you raid to push smite or to kill raid bosses and progress? |
| 15:36.34 | [Wobin] | no. I raid to enjoy myself |
| 15:36.36 | Stanzilla | Ackis: disc is good, holy bad :p |
| 15:36.39 | Cide | you're misunderstanding |
| 15:36.46 | Cide | it makes no sense to me at least to enjoy pushing smite more than you would enjoy killing a boss |
| 15:36.57 | [Wobin] | who said I was pushing smite? |
| 15:37.08 | Cide | let me generalize further then |
| 15:37.19 | [Wobin] | I've never said that smite spam was the BEST EVA AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO DO IT |
| 15:37.24 | Cide | it makes no sense to me at least to enjoy doing specific thing X, x being a strict subset of your class, more than you would enjoy killing a boss |
| 15:37.46 | Cide | the very thing that makes raiding enjoyable is killing stuff, to me |
| 15:37.50 | nevcairiel | The point is that most people raid to actually kill and loot stuff, not to play in one rather specific way |
| 15:37.53 | [Wobin] | I said that if someone enjoys using Spell X in their execution of their role, and it's no one is complaining in their raid, then let them do it. |
| 15:38.25 | [Wobin] | It's not about me. |
| 15:38.25 | Cide | if somebody plays like crap and nobody is there to bitch then sure, go for it |
| 15:38.30 | [Wobin] | EXACTLY |
| 15:38.42 | [Wobin] | As I said, I'm not a hardcore raider |
| 15:38.49 | nevcairiel | if noone complains, how are you to know that you are playing like crap anyway? |
| 15:38.52 | Cide | but to me, playing like crap would counteract the actual killing of bosses |
| 15:38.53 | nevcairiel | the discussion seems useless |
| 15:38.59 | Cide | which makes raiding not enjoyable |
| 15:39.00 | [Wobin] | this discussion is entirely useless |
| 15:39.03 | Cide | yes |
| 15:39.09 | [Wobin] | because Cide always wants to bring it back to him =P |
| 15:39.15 | Cide | no? |
| 15:39.33 | Ackis | I don't know what this discussion is about |
| 15:39.37 | Cide | I just find it strange how anybody could enjoy using a particular spell *in raiding* over actually doing your utmost to kill a boss |
| 15:39.47 | Cide | which seems like what people wanting to raid would want to do |
| 15:39.48 | Ackis | is it about attonement being bad, or is it about only smiting as a disc priest? |
| 15:39.53 | [Wobin] | All I've said this entire discussion is that "You should play to enjoy yourself. If you are not enjoying yourself, then change roles." |
| 15:40.03 | Cide | the 4pc bonus for holy seems weird, Ackis |
| 15:40.12 | nevcairiel | You know, there are loads of players that don't enjoy doing their utmost, they just tag along, play around some, and hope the others can pull it off. :) |
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| 15:40.30 | Cide | naturally not everybody has to spend hours researching stuff and so on |
| 15:40.31 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: and it's their money to play with |
| 15:40.50 | [Wobin] | if you don't like how they play, don't invite them to your raids |
| 15:40.52 | Cide | but I don't expect people to run around as holy spamming mind sear because they like the spell effect |
| 15:40.55 | nevcairiel | [Wobin]: sure, but they shouldn't get all worked up if they get kicked out from a group that wants to be more serious |
| 15:41.07 | Cide | Ackis: I usually precast lightwell as holy so I'm not sure why I would want a mana reduction after that |
| 15:41.20 | Cide | divine hymn would be a better fit after the recent changes |
| 15:41.27 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: if they're so focussed on enjoying themselves, then being forced to do something against their enjoyment would totally harsh their buzz |
| 15:41.33 | Ackis | Cide: same, plus lightwell has a cast time |
| 15:41.58 | Cide | oh yeah, that was the 2pc |
| 15:42.15 | nevcairiel | [Wobin]: looking on the other side, the person that actually wants to kill something, would get their "buzz" killed by someone "just enjoying themself" |
| 15:42.16 | Cide | the 4pc seems decent for holy now that they're lowering the mana cost of sanctuary I guess |
| 15:42.24 | nevcairiel | the conflict is always there, and unavoidable |
| 15:42.31 | Cide | definitely not as great as our current 4pc though |
| 15:42.40 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: so again. Don't invite them to raid with you |
| 15:42.51 | nevcairiel | You dont always know that before hand. :P |
| 15:43.05 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: is there only one raid? |
| 15:43.14 | Cide | oh and since I usually go shadow for heroics (2-healed) I just keep my disc set since it's more in line with shadow's stat priority |
| 15:43.47 | Cide | but we'll see what blizzard ends up doing for tier 13 |
| 15:43.50 | [Wobin] | nevcairiel: surely, if you want to be on the cutting edge of raiding, you have a core raiding team made up of similarly minded people? |
| 15:44.04 | [Wobin] | if you're constantly pugging, you get what you're asking for =P |
| 15:44.05 | nevcairiel | Nah, but people arent as black and white either. Alot of players do fine for a while, but once you start hitting a wall with some boss, you only notice who is in for serious killing, and who was tagging along for some fun |
| 15:44.29 | nevcairiel | Its been like that in every guild i've been in so far. None claimed themself as "hardcore" raiders, but we usually did alright |
| 15:44.34 | nevcairiel | until that "wall" came along |
| 15:44.40 | [Wobin] | human nature |
| 15:46.58 | nevcairiel | I survived it in the first guild, we slowly worked on improving the people slowly (both skill and attitude towards raiding), but its a lengthy progress, and eventually the guild still died (it lasted from classic up to Ulduar, at least). The second time in Cataclysm, when i started to raid again, the signs were quite obvious again after we hit some harder heroics, but i couldnt live through that again, and quit. |
| 15:47.52 | nevcairiel | I don't want to be in a "hardcore" guild, i would be fine on a 2-days-a-week-casual guild. What i cannot stand are guilds of mixed hardcore and fun people |
| 15:48.00 | nevcairiel | the conflict is driving every group into the ground. :P |
| 15:48.01 | [Wobin] | hm, the 4pc shadow sounds like mindspikecity |
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| 15:49.22 | Cide | mind spike? |
| 15:49.40 | [Wobin] | for the shadowfiend, I guess |
| 15:49.46 | Ackis | foo fighters? |
| 15:49.47 | Ackis | really? |
| 15:50.17 | [Wobin] | just wondering how you'd spend the free orbs |
| 15:50.34 | Cide | ah, I guess mind spike also gets boosted |
| 15:50.42 | Cide | maybe! |
| 15:52.00 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 15:52.09 | foxlit | Scout double engineering bay, build a spire. |
| 15:52.14 | foxlit | Clearly sound logic there |
| 15:57.51 | Stanzilla | [Wobin]: yeah atm you'd end up spamming spike while fiend is up |
| 15:57.55 | Stanzilla | not sure if I like that |
| 15:59.17 | [Wobin] | MS +30% damage =\ |
| 16:00.21 | [Wobin] | you reckon you'd end up ignoring it for fiend? |
| 16:00.27 | [Wobin] | during fiend |
| 16:00.39 | Lopeppeppy | Tired Peppy is unpeppy |
| 16:00.50 | [Wobin] | Lopepoopedy |
| 16:01.18 | Fisker | wat |
| 16:01.47 | Stanzilla | [Wobin]: what do you mean? |
| 16:02.34 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, Pooped-Peppy |
| 16:02.42 | Stanzilla | I just think that to benefit from the bonus (lots of orbs while fiend is up) you have to spam spike to use them all up |
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| 16:05.37 | [Wobin] | yeah, but if the boosted mindspike damage doesn't make up for the loss of the damage from dots... |
| 16:06.09 | [Wobin] | and the time spent reapplying them after the fiend is up |
| 16:07.28 | Stanzilla | that's the question |
| 16:07.36 | Stanzilla | and what makes me think that it is indeed bad |
| 16:10.04 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:10.17 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 16:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | They made a 13 minute video of my town being full of brain-dead people. |
| 16:11.08 | foxlit | NPCs using the word "humanity" sound odd |
| 16:11.41 | Fisker | what should a Fisker do Stanzilla ? |
| 16:11.57 | Stanzilla | a Fisker should bring me food |
| 16:12.01 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/blizzcon/en/blog/3040708/Foo_Fighters_to_Rock_BlizzCon_2011-28_09_2011#blog btw |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker | no Stanzilla |
| 16:13.06 | Ackis | old Fisker |
| 16:13.18 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 16:15.36 | pompy | reallly? bleh |
| 16:16.50 | Fisker | umad pompy ? |
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| 16:19.28 | starlon | All hail the Hypnoslug. |
| 16:20.02 | starlon | pelts him with ice chunks. |
| 16:21.54 | bluspacecow | *thunk* |
| 16:21.56 | pompy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCbZC59W3IE |
| 16:21.58 | bluspacecow | i go sleeps nows |
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| 16:26.42 | [Wobin] | http://www.box.net/shared/static/a6omcl2la0ivlxsn3o8m.jpg |
| 16:27.28 | Kraps | firefox 7 is doing that "fade the address in the address bar" like IE |
| 16:27.35 | Kraps | why?! |
| 16:28.27 | [Wobin] | http://lifehacker.com/5844471/get-the-full-url-back-in-firefox-7 |
| 16:29.32 | pompy | Kraps: firefox 6.0.x was doign that |
| 16:29.46 | pompy | in 7 they strip the http:// |
| 16:29.57 | Kraps | oh i see |
| 16:30.06 | Kraps | i didnt get 6 |
| 16:30.22 | Kraps | whats the point of doing that? |
| 16:30.41 | pompy | tho their memory usage reduction thing they claim , i think is false, bc its using a shitton right now |
| 16:30.42 | pompy | gr |
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| 16:31.29 | foxlit | Wobin: cute graph, but doesn't help the decision process :( |
| 16:32.04 | Maldivia | foxlit: read them all? |
| 16:32.16 | foxlit | more like disagree with the decision tree format |
| 16:33.21 | pompy | its using 2.4gb atm haha, idk if i should restart first bc i have a rediculous amount of cached ram |
| 16:33.49 | foxlit | read some, dunno if I'd read others; but there are good titles on paths I wouldn't reach if I just followed the flow chart |
| 16:33.57 | foxlit | misborn has a weird cover in that picture :/ |
| 16:35.10 | foxlit | /s/is/ist/ |
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| 16:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | I wonder if dogs enjoy surfing. |
| 16:44.27 | jnwhiteh | Cide: what hero should I play? =) |
| 16:44.58 | Fisker | newell jnwhiteh |
| 16:45.11 | Cide | jnwhiteh: haven't gotten around to watching the replay sorry |
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| 16:45.28 | Cide | but if you want to dominate games wretched hag is always good to know how to play |
| 16:45.38 | jnwhiteh | I just want to win =) |
| 16:45.47 | jnwhiteh | I know how to play support, but I definitely lack with carrying |
| 16:45.55 | jnwhiteh | yeah, maybe i'll play with hag a bit then |
| 16:46.03 | Cide | hag is probably the best hero in the game |
| 16:46.04 | Cide | after kraken atm |
| 16:46.09 | jnwhiteh | its just so intimidating, people except so much from you as a mid hag =) |
| 16:46.15 | Cide | yep |
| 16:46.16 | jnwhiteh | or any major hero like that |
| 16:46.17 | jnwhiteh | STRESSFUL |
| 16:46.19 | Lopeppeppy | Wretched hag. *just kind of stares* |
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| 16:48.20 | Fisker | umad Lopeppeppy ? |
| 16:48.30 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 16:48.31 | Fisker | damnit |
| 16:48.32 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
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| 16:50.58 | alestane | waves |
| 16:51.48 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 16:51.50 | Fisker | you're awesome |
| 16:52.04 | alestane | I try, anyway. |
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| 17:00.02 | foxlit | "Craig really, really should've died at the end of "Closing Time."" |
| 17:00.12 | foxlit | odd angle, escapist. |
| 17:03.21 | nicoli_s | i really thought he was going to |
| 17:03.45 | nicoli_s | me and my wife were talking about how dark an episode it was because we thought they were gonna kill him |
| 17:03.57 | foxlit | wouldn't fit. |
| 17:04.01 | foxlit | everybody lives! |
| 17:08.23 | Lopeppeppy | First rule of USA Up All Night - Anybody can die, at any time. |
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| 17:09.46 | alestane | 'Cause it's so dangerous you'll have to sign a waiver? |
| 17:09.51 | Mr_Rabies | I asked last night but it was way too late for anyone to care: Any cool new UI stuff in 4.3 yet? :O even if it's just stuff in the default UI i've somehow missed? |
| 17:10.06 | Lopeppeppy | Epic dagger! |
| 17:10.11 | Mr_Rabies | i know reforging has a new fancy UI |
| 17:10.12 | foxlit | define cool |
| 17:10.41 | Mr_Rabies | really just any changes to either the base ui or something significant to the addon api |
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| 17:13.38 | foxlit | there's a securecall where there wasn't one before. <3 alestane. |
| 17:13.59 | mckenziemc | hello Cairenn |
| 17:14.43 | foxlit | new reforging ui is kind of bleh |
| 17:15.10 | alestane | Which one was that, foxlit? |
| 17:15.31 | foxlit | one calling table.wipe :) |
| 17:15.38 | Mr_Rabies | i like it better than the old one foxlit |
| 17:15.43 | Mr_Rabies | it's way quicker |
| 17:15.59 | Mr_Rabies | using two dropdowns for it is pretty janky |
| 17:16.01 | foxlit | But it looks so horrible? |
| 17:16.05 | alestane | Um. Was that something in the handlers, or in UIDropDown? |
| 17:16.17 | foxlit | the dropdown menus, alestane. |
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| 17:16.27 | alestane | Okay, i remember that one now. |
| 17:16.46 | foxlit | handlers mostly didn't change was my impression; the worldmarker action for SABT is nice, though. |
| 17:17.06 | alestane | Can't promise it'll fix everything with dropdown taint, but hopefully it'll reduce it and make anything that's left easier to pinpoint. |
| 17:17.08 | foxlit | some messing with group headers, but I'm not familiar enough with those to tell you what it's doing. |
| 17:17.32 | alestane | Oh, that was fixes for a bunch of bugs reported with SecureAuraHeader. |
| 17:17.35 | Mr_Rabies | i really wish i knew why in the hell 4.2 made so many addons completely break |
| 17:17.45 | Mr_Rabies | just being in a raid is lua error city |
| 17:17.53 | alestane | I basically drycoded that header, so I'm actually surprised there weren't more. |
| 17:18.12 | foxlit | meh, my 4.0 code works in 4.2 |
| 17:18.21 | Mr_Rabies | i installed bugsack and it keeps shutting down because it's getting too many errors a second |
| 17:18.41 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 17:18.45 | Kraps | dammit |
| 17:18.54 | Kraps | hey fishface |
| 17:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | i've made it stable enough for raid play by turning off like altoholic, gearscore, and like 5 more addons, but it still throws a ton of errors even if nothing physically breaks anymore |
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| 17:19.46 | foxlit | what the heck did they do to Wrath in 4.3? |
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| 17:20.32 | alestane | Converted a bunch of the group quests in Icecrown to solo quests, I think. |
| 17:20.35 | Cairenn | is getting annoyed |
| 17:20.43 | foxlit | the druid spell, that is |
| 17:20.54 | alestane | And probably in other zones, like the rune giants in ... oh, never mind then. |
| 17:21.07 | foxlit | changed icon, animation. Now looks like some kind of holy bolt that doesn't impact |
| 17:21.26 | alestane | So far, the one announced 'lock change is a cooler-looking Shadow Bolt (I assume it's cooler, anyway). |
| 17:21.41 | alestane | soothes Cairenn's ruffles. |
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| 17:22.06 | mckenziemc | fixes Cairenn's internets |
| 17:23.03 | alestane | Are you annoyed by internet flutters, or by something else? |
| 17:24.31 | Fisker | http://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 17:24.32 | Fisker | buy damnit |
| 17:24.33 | Fisker | BUY |
| 17:25.02 | mckenziemc | short-sells Fisker |
| 17:25.10 | Lopeppeppy | I should not search for esoteric drawing subjects at work. *clears her browser cache* |
| 17:25.17 | foxlit | Fisker: old. |
| 17:25.59 | mckenziemc | naughty Lopeeppeppy |
| 17:26.32 | Fisker | i know foxlit |
| 17:26.42 | Fisker | but i deliberately kept it back to keep the top10 spot for a while |
| 17:27.19 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously want to draw crack cocaine, for some reason, bubbly in a spoon. Like a Crumb comic gone all sparkly Mary Jane. |
| 17:31.23 | karl_w_w | stupid map animation interrupts fishing |
| 17:31.54 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 17:33.44 | Cairenn | Ah ha! I see they have announced the closing concert headliners. |
| 17:33.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, isn't it smashing? |
| 17:34.42 | alestane | Not Jack Black this time, I trust? Or (rereads Peppy's comment) something to do with pumpkins, perhaps. |
| 17:34.50 | Cairenn | Foo Fighters |
| 17:35.03 | alestane | Oh, okay. Not bad. |
| 17:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | rocks the hell out. Not bad? |
| 17:35.19 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:35.33 | karl_w_w | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/september/murozond.jpg dude looks boss |
| 17:36.04 | Satisfyme | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=19708 |
| 17:39.02 | alestane | I didn't have much exposure to the Foo Fighters until my friends got Rock Band, I'm afraid. |
| 17:39.32 | karl_w_w | foo fighters are overrated |
| 17:41.40 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. |
| 17:42.00 | alestane | Everything's overrated to someone, I'm sure. |
| 17:42.24 | Fisker | everything? |
| 17:43.10 | Lopeppeppy | Some people think pizza is *good*, Fisker. |
| 17:43.28 | Fisker | so what Lopeppeppy ? |
| 17:43.48 | alestane | I don't understand why ketchup is so ubiquitous. |
| 17:44.23 | nevcairiel | rather have catsup? |
| 17:46.02 | alestane | It's cloying and oversweet, to my taste. |
| 17:46.12 | karl_w_w | you wouldn't understand Lopeppeppy, you don't get good pizza in america |
| 17:46.21 | nevcairiel | tbh, that totally depends on the ketchup in question |
| 17:46.23 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:46.36 | karl_w_w | what nevcairiel said |
| 17:46.47 | karl_w_w | and ketchup goes with pretty much everything |
| 17:46.56 | nevcairiel | I totally hate those no-brand ketchup thingys that all tase like the shit from mcdonalds |
| 17:47.36 | nevcairiel | but its all you get when you want some in any food serving place, the good ketchup you can only get for yourself. :p |
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| 17:48.01 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 17:48.07 | Fisker | didn't you think my idea was awesome? |
| 17:49.05 | karl_w_w | and personally I love ketchup but I don't use much at all |
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| 17:51.50 | Lopeppeppy | Pizza is toxic and naaaaaasty |
| 17:52.09 | karl_w_w | qualify that with some kind of location reference |
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| 17:56.26 | Jamash | pizza is the nectar of the gods |
| 17:56.39 | karl_w_w | that's taking it a bit far :P |
| 17:56.57 | Jamash | I'm countering hyperbole with hyperbole |
| 17:58.15 | kd3 | holy hell the diff is 1.4 megs |
| 17:59.05 | Jamash | well, raid finder, void storage, transmogrification, dungeon journal stuff... |
| 17:59.43 | karl_w_w | reforging |
| 17:59.57 | Fisker | i wish they had spent our database space on tabard slots instead |
| 18:00.07 | Fisker | stupid system ;_; |
| 18:00.12 | Jamash | you could void storage your tabards lololololol |
| 18:00.55 | Jamash | ok so this is something I haven't gotten clear, can I use stuff that is currently in void storage as a transmogrification source (not target) |
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| 18:01.10 | karl_w_w | i think so |
| 18:01.12 | Jamash | 'cause if not I'm going to get pissy |
| 18:01.26 | Fisker | you can't |
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| 18:01.33 | karl_w_w | Fisker is lying |
| 18:01.39 | Fisker | no karl_w_w |
| 18:01.47 | Ackis | doesn't like how the void storage takes away enchants/gems :( |
| 18:02.01 | Fisker | But you can likely withdraw it, transmogrify and then deposit it again in void storage |
| 18:02.08 | kd3 | void storage is just holding on to itemids |
| 18:02.11 | Fisker | doesn't like void storage or transmogrifying |
| 18:02.14 | kd3 | otherwise it'd take way too much space |
| 18:02.26 | Fisker | I got this great idea |
| 18:02.55 | Fisker | which also has Blizzard not force to regrind content we can't grind unless we faction change, and using void storage |
| 18:02.59 | Fisker | get this insane idea |
| 18:03.03 | Fisker | achievements |
| 18:03.04 | Fisker | quests |
| 18:03.15 | Fisker | also doesn't require them to deny quest restorations either |
| 18:03.19 | Fisker | it's awesome |
| 18:03.26 | karl_w_w | I just cant believe they havent worked out how to code tabard storage yet |
| 18:03.35 | Fisker | priorities karl_w_w |
| 18:04.28 | karl_w_w | how could tabard storage possibly be a low priority |
| 18:04.31 | Jamash | I don't understand how they can be making a hundred million dollars a month and can't afford a couple of measly terabytes of storage for bigger banks |
| 18:04.55 | karl_w_w | it's easy to do, heaps of people want it, and it makes logistical sense in terms of blizzard storage space |
| 18:05.15 | Jamash | google could find them fifty terabytes in their couch |
| 18:05.17 | alestane | I expect someone has some ideas about it. But figuring it out and actually chugging out the code to make it *work* properly are a different matter, and there is always the question of whether the manhours are more urgently needed there or on, say, transmogrification, or new content. |
| 18:05.59 | foxlit | "heaps of people want it" |
| 18:06.05 | Jamash | they already turned titles into a ui element |
| 18:06.16 | Jamash | use the same thing for tabards |
| 18:06.20 | Jamash | BAM |
| 18:06.24 | alestane | And again, you're assuming that the only factor in bigger banks or backpacks is the physical backing storage. |
| 18:06.33 | foxlit | realistically, the only problem is thta they made achievements for tabards |
| 18:06.35 | alestane | It's so cute the way you think that's a matter of "BAM" |
| 18:06.44 | Ackis | alestane: that's what they made it sound like when they got rid of the key ring |
| 18:06.47 | Jamash | well, they said so explicitly when they got rid of keyrings |
| 18:06.55 | alestane | Can it be converted? Sure. They did that with mounts. |
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| 18:07.22 | alestane | Is it a matter of setting the "tabardsAreAbstract" variable to "true"? No. |
| 18:07.26 | Jamash | bugsack divided by zero D: |
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| 18:08.52 | Jamash | I'm not saying it's trivial, but it's something they've already done with other items |
| 18:09.33 | Jamash | there is an issue with tabards that have on-use effects which I expect is the major problem |
| 18:09.59 | karl_w_w | thats what they've said in the past |
| 18:10.05 | alestane | It would probably be much more like the mounts conversion than the title one. Your existing tabards would "teach" you the new tabard. But they'd also have to change the current equipmentSlot for tabards, which expects to hold an item, and they'd have to redesign the UI to allow tabard selection and fit it in somewhere, and they'd have to make sure that tabards that give rep buffs or similar effects worked properly once they were |
| 18:10.23 | alestane | It's all doable. And, it all takes time, effort and testing. |
| 18:10.57 | alestane | None of those problems are unsolvable. But it's the sort of thing that I'd expect to see as part of a new expansion. |
| 18:11.07 | karl_w_w | it can't be hard to make a tabard teach you a spell while it's equipped |
| 18:11.13 | karl_w_w | if it is, they're doing it wrong |
| 18:11.25 | Jamash | actually I'd expect that as a patch, and transmogrification as an expac feature |
| 18:11.49 | alestane | The kind of thing that happens when someone goes, "You know, we're messing around in the guts of this module anyway, we might as well recode this other part while we're in here." |
| 18:14.38 | Jamash | make /usetabard analagous to /mountspecial |
| 18:16.30 | alestane | My guess? It will happen. Eventually. |
| 18:16.41 | alestane | At this rate, probably sometime around 5.2. |
| 18:17.49 | alestane | It's the same kind of problem that led to creating the keyring and turning mounts into spells and adding void storage. |
| 18:18.34 | karl_w_w | at this rate it won't happen |
| 18:18.34 | foxlit | Jamash: how do those /commands make sense? |
| 18:18.34 | alestane | But for this patch, the team that would be responsible for adding it is probably busy with void storage and transmogrifcation. |
| 18:18.41 | Jamash | foxlit: how don't they? |
| 18:18.53 | foxlit | I don't see why you'd need /usetabard |
| 18:19.01 | Jamash | or make "use tabard" a spell |
| 18:19.06 | foxlit | while /mountspecial just plays an animation |
| 18:19.21 | Jamash | well there needs to be a way to activate on-use stuff on tabards, yes? |
| 18:19.23 | alestane | And contrary to popular belief, being "not too cheap to hire a bunch more programmers" does not usually solve the problem. |
| 18:19.32 | nebula169 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.34 | karl_w_w | it doesn't just play an animation, other people see it |
| 18:19.41 | foxlit | Jamash: there's /use |
| 18:19.48 | Jamash | for items, yes |
| 18:19.54 | foxlit | works with slot IDs too |
| 18:19.54 | nebula169 | for slots |
| 18:19.57 | Jamash | we're talking about making tabards non-items |
| 18:19.59 | foxlit | that's how people macro trinkets |
| 18:20.01 | Jamash | keep up |
| 18:20.17 | karl_w_w | that still uses an item foxlit |
| 18:20.20 | foxlit | ah, boring premise to begin with |
| 18:20.25 | alestane | The only one I know of is the Argent Tournament tabard that hearths you back there. |
| 18:20.31 | Jamash | heroism |
| 18:20.34 | nebula169 | just make a title-selection list, and take the input from that and throw it into the tabard slot, and disallow clicks to the tabard slot on the paperdoll |
| 18:20.35 | nebula169 | bam |
| 18:20.55 | foxlit | how many tabards do you realistically need to keep? |
| 18:21.00 | alestane | I love how you use words like "just". |
| 18:21.01 | Jamash | ALL OF THEM |
| 18:21.04 | foxlit | The answer is like 4. |
| 18:21.09 | nebula169 | i keep the cosmetic one that goes with my gear on me |
| 18:21.10 | Jamash | ALL |
| 18:21.11 | Jamash | OF |
| 18:21.12 | Jamash | THEM |
| 18:21.17 | nebula169 | and whatever rep i need to grind |
| 18:21.27 | nebula169 | vendor the rest! |
| 18:21.31 | foxlit | Jamash: then you deserve the bag space penalty :) |
| 18:21.46 | Jamash | packratting has saved me more times than I can count |
| 18:21.54 | Jamash | I'm not about to stop now |
| 18:22.16 | foxlit | bag space limits have never been greater than they are now. No need to increase them further. |
| 18:22.19 | Lopeppeppy | Bam and Just are two curse words that programmers hate to hear. |
| 18:22.25 | foxlit | great argument, wouldn't you say? :) |
| 18:22.29 | Jamash | I'm a programmer :D |
| 18:22.44 | Lopeppeppy | So have some sympathy! Have some heart! |
| 18:22.46 | nebula169 | i love bam'ing out code |
| 18:22.49 | nebula169 | :D |
| 18:22.52 | Jamash | they should hire me :D |
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| 18:22.54 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:23.05 | karl_w_w | i vendor the +rep tabards |
| 18:23.09 | karl_w_w | but keep all the others |
| 18:23.17 | Jamash | I've had medical issues so I haven't gotten my degree yet so they're not going to |
| 18:23.33 | karl_w_w | if i didnt keep my scryers tabard i wouldnt be able to get it again :P |
| 18:23.36 | nebula169 | i keep ones that aren't on the tabard vendor |
| 18:23.58 | karl_w_w | that's a lot of tabards :P |
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| 18:24.18 | Jamash | putting all my tier sets in VS will give me more than enough space to keep all my tabards in the bank |
| 18:24.19 | nebula169 | not really, like 6, 7 maybe |
| 18:25.20 | Jamash | augh, they made vendors and trainers a submenu on the tracking menu |
| 18:25.27 | Jamash | I dislike |
| 18:25.57 | nebula169 | hasn't trainers been there since they added the multi-tracking thing? |
| 18:26.21 | karl_w_w | not as a sub menu |
| 18:26.26 | nebula169 | ah |
| 18:26.28 | nebula169 | gotcha |
| 18:26.36 | Jamash | no, I mean there's a main menu with flight masters, low level quests, points of interest, target, focus target, quest POIs and digsites, and a submenu titled "Townsfolk" with everything else |
| 18:27.06 | karl_w_w | Townsfolk? I dislike also |
| 18:27.12 | Jamash | I can see that it was getting out of hand in terms of size but this is not the right solution |
| 18:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | Townsfolk? What if I'm not in town? |
| 18:27.24 | nebula169 | NO TRACKING FOR YOU |
| 18:27.27 | Jamash | not many bankers outside town :P |
| 18:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | trainers though. |
| 18:27.42 | Jamash | true |
| 18:28.09 | kd3 | woot; new humble bundle |
| 18:28.15 | kd3 | looks for his cc |
| 18:29.51 | KarlKFI|work | not actually a new one. jsut a new game |
| 18:30.06 | KarlKFI|work | if you pay >avg for the game you get the prev bundle |
| 18:30.49 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/8_7_6_5_4_3_2_1_1.jpg myth busted. |
| 18:31.00 | Jamash | does arcane missiles normally have a 100% chance to proc? |
| 18:31.46 | foxlit | it's 40% |
| 18:31.49 | foxlit | the tooltip is a bug |
| 18:31.52 | Jamash | huh |
| 18:31.57 | KarlKFI|work | lol mikma. none of the cards are the same |
| 18:32.18 | foxlit | kd3: you mean old humble bundle |
| 18:32.39 | kd3 | new to me; I apparently missed that one |
| 18:33.25 | mikma | karlkfi|work: bingo! |
| 18:33.45 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/hoyla.gif |
| 18:34.54 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/300332_285135831515277_245415902153937_1112094_2123025443_n.jpg :D |
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| 18:37.32 | Fisker | what foxlit means is that it's 1½ hours old now kd3 |
| 18:38.00 | foxlit | what I mean is that they've offered more or less the same thing several months ago |
| 18:38.02 | Dagmar | mikma: Is "hoyla" the word for 'DING!' in some language? |
| 18:38.17 | karl_w_w | Fiskerdin what realm are you on? |
| 18:38.24 | Fisker | nah foxlit |
| 18:38.29 | Fisker | that is just a bonus |
| 18:39.02 | mikma | dagmar: "höylä" |
| 18:39.22 | mikma | dagmar: aka. grinder |
| 18:39.30 | Dagmar | Ahhh.. |
| 18:39.47 | Dagmar | GIF or not I could swear I heard a bell being rung there. Heh |
| 18:39.58 | Dagmar | A great big CLANGGGGG sound, too |
| 18:40.19 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 18:40.21 | Jamash | you're hallucinating |
| 18:40.24 | Fisker | why are you not D3 betaing? |
| 18:40.27 | Jamash | you should go to a doctor |
| 18:40.36 | Dagmar | Jamash: Probably sympathy hallucinations |
| 18:40.44 | mikma | dagmar: i can see that, DING! |
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| 18:53.33 | Jamash | so I'm on the pvp us peety arr and I'm stuck on a loading screen, is the EK world server down? |
| 18:56.41 | pompy | ugh http://www.gamerant.com/minecraft-pocket-edition-android-release-date-johnj-106754/ |
| 18:57.57 | Jamash | ugh? |
| 18:58.43 | pompy | seems silly |
| 18:58.53 | Jamash | all games are silly |
| 18:59.28 | Jamash | now where's minecraft 3DS |
| 19:00.20 | Fisker | fail Arrowmaster |
| 19:00.27 | Fisker | They put their DLC on Steam now |
| 19:00.39 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 19:00.40 | Fisker | for 3⬠combined :( |
| 19:00.47 | Fisker | i paid more for the explosive dlc alone |
| 19:00.48 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 19:01.05 | Dagmar | Ah doon't think it's likely to run on the 3DS |
| 19:01.27 | Dagmar | EVen that Android version is sort of a the "retarded nephew edition" |
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| 19:02.16 | Dagmar | It's more of a feature-subset of Creative mode from what I've been able to gather |
| 19:03.30 | Jamash | survival will be patched in |
| 19:03.48 | Dagmar | That would be nice |
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| 19:17.27 | Adys | Im buying new headphones (again...) |
| 19:17.46 | Adys | and the logitech H600 is VERY sexy |
| 19:18.16 | Adys | but the thing is i got an order for the H800. only difference: h800 is bluetooth, h600 is wireless |
| 19:18.57 | Maldivia | ... and here I thought bluetoth was wireless :P |
| 19:19.11 | Adys | h600 uses non-bluetooth wireless |
| 19:19.25 | Adys | needs an usb adapter (the same as my mouse and webcam as they're logitech products) |
| 19:20.29 | Maldivia | so the H800 just uses the a2dp profile (or something like that)? |
| 19:20.37 | Adys | no idea |
| 19:21.01 | Adys | The H800 is twice as expensive (90 gbp), needs a bluetooth adapter (separately bought), requires me to install bluetooth support on linux, etc... |
| 19:21.19 | Adys | the H600 will be released next month |
| 19:21.24 | Adys | but on the other hand, fuck bluetooth |
| 19:21.39 | Adys | so I invoke the power of the IRC to help me decide |
| 19:21.46 | Shirik | I have come to a realization |
| 19:21.54 | Shirik | The people that trade nvidia don't know shit about what they're doing |
| 19:22.54 | Adys | - http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers-audio/headphones/devices/8391 (H600) |
| 19:22.58 | Adys | - http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/speakers-audio/headphones/devices/8567 (H800) |
| 19:23.16 | Maldivia | Shirik: does that surprise you? |
| 19:23.21 | Dagmar | Shirik; That's most of the market actually |
| 19:23.31 | Shirik | no you don't understand |
| 19:23.43 | Shirik | rest of market goes up: nvidia posts mediocre gains |
| 19:23.50 | Shirik | rest of market goes down: nvidia crashes |
| 19:23.54 | Shirik | every single time |
| 19:24.14 | Dagmar | Netflix loses deal of almost no consequence with Starz, drops 20% |
| 19:24.17 | Maldivia | Adys: the h800 comes with a nano receiver |
| 19:24.27 | Dagmar | Announces they're still on target for revenue, drops another 4% |
| 19:24.32 | Adys | hmm Maldivia |
| 19:24.34 | Adys | yeah it does |
| 19:24.35 | Adys | i didnt notice |
| 19:24.36 | Dagmar | Madness |
| 19:24.45 | Shirik | yeah netflix is kinda lulz recently |
| 19:24.58 | Adys | Maldivia: tbh i was thinking of getting the wireless ones and just use the bluetooth ones for a couple weeks, return them in 20 days |
| 19:25.11 | Shirik | somehow I actually made quite a bit of money today |
| 19:25.14 | Shirik | I haven't quite figured that one out |
| 19:25.31 | Maldivia | Adys: heh |
| 19:25.54 | Maldivia | Shirik: so have I... but that's probably because I got paid today :P |
| 19:26.06 | Shirik | who gets paid on a wednesday o.o |
| 19:26.31 | Dagmar | Shirik: I snatched some up at $140. I fully expect it'll be back over 200 before the year's out |
| 19:26.38 | Shirik | agree |
| 19:26.39 | Maldivia | well, usually gets paid on the 2nd to last bank day of the month... so why today, no idea |
| 19:27.17 | Shirik | you get paid based on bank days o.o |
| 19:27.31 | Shirik | I always get paid every other friday, period, no exceptions |
| 19:27.55 | Maldivia | monthly pay, and based on bank days yeah |
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| 19:28.40 | Shirik | honestly nvidia belongs up closer to like 20 |
| 19:29.03 | Arrowmaster | when are you going to realize the entire stock market system is just fucked |
| 19:29.12 | Maldivia | that's all those damn computers auto-selling etc that screws it up |
| 19:30.33 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: It's not fucked |
| 19:30.34 | Shirik | Well |
| 19:30.36 | Shirik | ok it's fucked |
| 19:30.41 | Shirik | but I intend to ride the insanity |
| 19:30.41 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 19:30.53 | Shirik | it's only sufficiently fucked for me to be able to figure out patterns |
| 19:31.07 | Shirik | but for those patterns to have no logical reason |
| 19:32.16 | Shirik | for example, I'm currently riding Staples on the way up. And I have been for a few days. I have no idea why it's going up despite the fact that the market's down, but I do know that I predicted it exactly. In my mind, Staples is an awful company. |
| 19:35.12 | Ackis | Shirik: if you make millions, remember me ok? |
| 19:35.14 | Arrowmaster | its probably going up because the automated systems detected it was going up so they are all buying it, but as soon as it starts to go down they will all sell before you can and it will end up lower than when you bought it |
| 19:35.26 | Shirik | Ackis: Sure |
| 19:35.33 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: I put protective stops on every one of my positions |
| 19:35.49 | Shirik | If something like that happens, I will also have an automated trade occur |
| 19:36.17 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: because you can not add chaos theory to your predictive models |
| 19:37.59 | Shirik | ARrowmaster: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/stocks/09/use-stop-loss.asp#axzz1ZHH7egY8 Under the part where it says "not just for preventing losses" |
| 19:38.35 | Thunder_Child | how the hell does hello kitty have a stock value of 3600.. |
| 19:38.58 | Shirik | because it's in yen |
| 19:39.36 | Thunder_Child | ah, so it is |
| 19:39.41 | Thunder_Child | i feel better now |
| 19:39.43 | Shirik | Ok |
| 19:39.47 | Shirik | more proof that the stock market is stupid |
| 19:39.53 | Shirik | Third rule that I left out above |
| 19:40.01 | Shirik | Rest of stock market crashes: NVDA stays flat |
| 19:40.06 | Shirik | seriously wtf |
| 19:40.16 | starlon | conspiracy |
| 19:40.55 | alestane | Thunder_Child: The one I'm trying to figure out is how the heck Hello Kitty partnered with Swarovski. |
| 19:43.55 | Dagmar | Might have something to do with that they're both basically kitchy crap |
| 19:44.07 | Lopeppeppy | gets wide-eyed. Stock markets are not her thinking-mode. |
| 19:44.28 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, have you SEEN the number of sparklies on some of that HK crap? Very bling! |
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| 19:47.47 | alestane | Yep. And I have a photo of a Hello Kitty poster hanging in a Swarovski window. |
| 19:48.16 | Shirik | imagines Lopeppeppy with walls filled with hello kitty stuff |
| 19:52.28 | mckenziemc | Hello Shirik |
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| 19:52.44 | Shirik | hello |
| 19:55.07 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, that's vile. |
| 19:55.13 | Shirik | what :( |
| 19:55.15 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:56.24 | Lopeppeppy | Me. With pink. |
| 19:56.27 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew.\ |
| 19:56.49 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:59.01 | Fisker | what is the blue dragonflight doing in orgrimmar all of the sudden ;_; |
| 19:59.30 | nevcairiel | kicking your ass, i hope |
| 20:00.19 | Fisker | they're pretty friendly so no |
| 20:00.38 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:00.40 | Fisker | legendary quest |
| 20:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | Being legendary, I suspect. |
| 20:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | Blue dragons are like that. |
| 20:05.57 | alestane | Redheads usually don't look that good in pink or lavendar. |
| 20:06.03 | Shirik | http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/news/companies/reebok_ftc/ butt shaping shoes ftw |
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| 20:08.14 | Lopeppeppy | non-shaping shoes FTL, don't you mean? |
| 20:09.08 | nicoli_s | anyone wanan figure out these damn LoL file formats for me? |
| 20:09.26 | Ackis | wants to go home and play with his crabs. :( |
| 20:09.31 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 20:09.52 | Adys | nicoli_s: if by LOL you mean League of Legends, I'd love to help but I dont have the game handy |
| 20:09.55 | Ackis | We got two hermit crabs... we call them the crabbies! |
| 20:09.58 | Ackis | they're cute |
| 20:10.05 | Ackis | one has a purple claw, the other has a blue claw |
| 20:10.09 | Adys | nicoli_s: on the other hand, if by LOL you mean "LOL BLIZZARD'S STUPID FORMATS", I'm all yours |
| 20:10.46 | nicoli_s | Adys:i do mean LoL |
| 20:10.58 | nicoli_s | they changed their format recently and no one has it documented publiclly |
| 20:11.32 | Adys | i kinda figured, just wanted to make the joke |
| 20:11.54 | mckenziemc | shrugs |
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| 20:14.42 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 20:14.59 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 20:15.05 | Ackis | buy me the humble bundle |
| 20:15.14 | Ackis | http://www.zetbit.com/sig/0/4.jpg like my sig Fisker? |
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| 20:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | Better to hoard them than to toe them... |
| 20:31.27 | Cairenn | ... |
| 20:31.32 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 20:32.05 | Lopeppeppy | Whaaaat? *innocent expression of angelic sweetness and light* |
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| 20:36.10 | alestane | ...never mind the horns, they're only there to hold up the halo... |
| 20:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | Totally innocent. |
| 20:38.19 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:40.31 | alestane | And stuff. |
| 20:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | You people. I am much maligned. |
| 20:41.06 | Lopeppeppy | And stuff! :) |
| 20:45.37 | alestane | Oh come on, dear, you the stuff is what brings it all together. |
| 20:47.50 | foxlit | dammit, Phasing |
| 20:47.54 | foxlit | work properly or not at all |
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| 20:48.45 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 20:49.05 | alestane | you know* |
| 20:49.14 | alestane | Not that she cares, she's gone. |
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| 20:54.59 | Shirik | car commercial has chains hooked to the back doors |
| 20:55.09 | Shirik | it floors it, and then reaches the chain limit, and the doors break off |
| 20:55.18 | Shirik | at the bottom: Professional driver, do not attempt |
| 20:55.31 | Shirik | Regardless of whether or not it is safe, why would I WANT to do that |
| 20:55.42 | mckenziemc | don't ask |
| 20:56.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: because you can |
| 20:56.32 | Xyphoid | so you can youtube it up and be famous |
| 20:56.32 | foxlit | Shirik: why do coffee cups say "WARNING! Coffee is hot?" |
| 20:56.44 | Shirik | well I get that |
| 20:56.46 | Shirik | you could burn yourself |
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| 20:56.51 | Shirik | but why would I intentionally break my car |
| 20:57.02 | Shirik | they aren't even saying something like "hey look our doors are so strong they stay on" |
| 20:57.03 | Thunder_Child | First Law of Reality: People are stupid |
| 20:57.04 | Shirik | they broke off |
| 20:57.11 | foxlit | why would you intentionally burn yourself on coffee? |
| 20:57.51 | Fisker | nah Ackis |
| 20:58.19 | Ackis | Fisker: I just bought it myslef :( |
| 20:59.12 | Fisker | :) |
| 20:59.20 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: you can accidentally burn yourself, you can not accidentally hook chains up to your car and drive off |
| 20:59.48 | foxlit | but you made it look so cool on TV, Thunder_Child! |
| 20:59.50 | foxlit | YOUR FAULT. |
| 21:01.07 | foxlit | Besides, I think the idea is not that you accidentially hook chains up to your car |
| 21:01.33 | foxlit | but that while intentionally hooking chains up to your car and driving off, you manage to injure yourself. |
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| 21:11.42 | alestane | I think the point of the commercial is that the car is over-powerful enough to rip the doors RIGHT OFF. Or something like that. |
| 21:13.33 | Thunder_Child | shouldnt any car be able to do that? |
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| 21:17.20 | Fisker | Herr Ackis |
| 21:17.25 | Ackis | ? |
| 21:19.15 | Fisker | bye |
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| 21:21.59 | Ackis | hey Stanzilla your mother is a llama |
| 21:22.08 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:22.50 | Stanzilla | Ackis: I have a good answer for you but keeping the niveau up is more important! |
| 21:24.17 | Arrowmaster | yahtzee partially losses it during this and just goes off on wild shit http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/4728-Resistance-3 |
| 21:25.28 | Kraps | its just like half life! |
| 21:26.21 | Arrowmaster | foo fighters at blizzcon |
| 21:28.04 | alestane | Ciao |
| 21:30.26 | Fisker | old Arrowmaster |
| 21:30.30 | Fisker | baw |
| 21:30.32 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 21:30.33 | Fisker | beta? |
| 21:30.39 | Stanzilla | nooope |
| 21:30.49 | Fisker | me neither |
| 21:30.52 | Fisker | lets kill someone |
| 21:31.27 | mckenziemc | bombars Fisker with beta particles |
| 21:31.32 | mckenziemc | bombards* |
| 21:31.33 | Fisker | oh god jnwhiteh |
| 21:31.36 | Fisker | i just oh god'd |
| 21:33.31 | Thunder_Child | why not alpha? |
| 21:34.11 | Fisker | too bad this guy hasn't used a phone before apparently |
| 21:36.30 | Fisker | jnwhiteh you should omg with me |
| 21:38.40 | Shirik | whaaaaat |
| 21:38.49 | Shirik | quicken is pro |
| 21:39.05 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 21:39.10 | Fisker | stop right there criminal scum |
| 21:39.17 | Shirik | type in payment into register, it's all like "Is this the payment for your next scheduled American Express bill on 10/15/2011?" |
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| 21:41.27 | Shirik | Fisker, I am not criminal scum |
| 21:41.52 | Fisker | you are Shirik |
| 21:43.57 | Fisker | apparently Stanzilla |
| 21:43.59 | Fisker | new opt in wave |
| 21:44.10 | Fisker | still no invite = sad |
| 21:45.24 | Stanzilla | fffu |
| 21:45.27 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmYjKverLV0 <-cheers me up |
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| 21:50.18 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 21:50.23 | Fisker | icecream at my place |
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| 21:50.53 | Fisker | and Shirik |
| 21:50.58 | Fisker | you will never be forgiven for what you have done |
| 21:51.01 | Stanzilla | yay party |
| 21:51.29 | Thunder_Child | Stanzilla: not party, romantic engagement....i mean it is just the 2 of you |
| 21:52.45 | Fisker | i hope notch loses the scrolls case |
| 21:52.54 | Fisker | trademark trolling is ok when they're trolling douchebags |
| 21:52.55 | Fisker | bam |
| 21:54.15 | Stanzilla | Thunder_Child: oh :o |
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| 22:00.42 | Arrowmaster | why the hell does the lupus foundation keep calling to see if we want to donate |
| 22:00.53 | kd3 | it's lupus |
| 22:00.58 | Arrowmaster | my dad has lupus |
| 22:01.00 | cogwheel | nevah! |
| 22:01.26 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 22:01.29 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 22:01.33 | kd3 | hm? |
| 22:01.34 | Fisker | however not so hey Arrowmaster |
| 22:01.38 | Fisker | probably didn't expect that one |
| 22:04.06 | Shirik | I love Jim Cramer |
| 22:04.09 | foxlit | 84 without setting foot in uldum |
| 22:04.11 | foxlit | hurray. |
| 22:04.40 | cogwheel | why would you do such a thing!? |
| 22:04.42 | kd3 | why, did jon stewart make fun of him again? |
| 22:04.45 | cogwheel | :P |
| 22:05.02 | Shirik | he's off on a rant right now "finland posted bad news, so copper fell 7%. Obviously because finland <whatever he was ranting about>, we don't need any more sinks, we don't need any more wire, so copper is worthless now!" |
| 22:05.37 | Shirik | he talking about how people shorting everything is like throwing everything in the trash |
| 22:06.14 | kd3 | "but, but... profit! I want to make money even when the world burns!" |
| 22:06.18 | Fisker | pls Shirik |
| 22:06.37 | Shirik | the world is burning because people like me are profiting off it |
| 22:06.40 | Shirik | though I don't short |
| 22:06.41 | Fisker | cramer is a huge jerk Shirik |
| 22:06.47 | Shirik | well I short calls but that's not the same |
| 22:07.23 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 22:07.55 | airtonix | umad Shirik? |
| 22:08.15 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 22:08.18 | Fisker | i need to sleep |
| 22:08.44 | Shirik | Ù©(â¢Ì®Ì®Ìâ¢Ì)Û¶ |
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| 22:10.29 | Fisker | why are you a jerk Shirik ? |
| 22:10.36 | Shirik | because I trade stocks |
| 22:10.39 | Shirik | it is a requirement |
| 22:11.49 | foxlit | Shirik is part of the cancer that is eating society, apparently. |
| 22:11.58 | Shirik | Ù©(â¢Ì®Ì®Ìâ¢Ì)Û¶ |
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| 22:12.35 | Fisker | i want to take your face off |
| 22:12.57 | Fisker | rawr |
| 22:12.58 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:13.00 | Fisker | i wanted to see TNG |
| 22:13.02 | Fisker | but i can't |
| 22:15.23 | Fisker | undresses |
| 22:17.00 | Shirik | TNG as in wstar trek? |
| 22:38.03 | Fisker | yes |
| 22:43.31 | foxlit | http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html |
| 22:44.15 | jnwhiteh | Cide: down to 1604 >< |
| 22:46.41 | Shirik | (15:44:05)  -⺠Join: babygirl (60124e5a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.18.78.90) |
| 22:46.41 | Shirik | (15:44:05) (+Helpmebot) Hello babygirl, welcome to #wikipedia-en-help! Please type your question about editing Wikipedia below. We'll be with you shortly. |
| 22:46.42 | Shirik | (15:45:40) (babygirl) i did not ask for your magazine |
| 22:47.07 | Shirik | I'm debating what the appropriate response is |
| 22:47.25 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 22:47.30 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 22:47.39 | durcyn | get its postal address so you can 'cancel' the subscription, obviously |
| 22:48.01 | Cairenn | I believe the appropriate response would be: "Unh, what?" |
| 22:48.17 | Shirik | that's too polite :( |
| 22:48.37 | nicoli_s | Fisker:are you aware theres someone whos very similar to you in the #diablofans channel named Fischer |
| 22:48.56 | Fisker | no nicoli_s |
| 22:49.46 | nicoli_s | its very odd |
| 22:49.47 | Shirik | Fisker will never get to play diablo |
| 22:49.55 | nicoli_s | Fischer complains about the same things |
| 22:50.13 | Fisker | what do i complain about? |
| 22:50.19 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: in beta you mean |
| 22:50.38 | Shirik | no |
| 22:50.40 | Shirik | I mean ever |
| 22:51.27 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=245136&postcount=44 |
| 22:51.37 | foxlit | I can't help but feel Cairenn is being misinterpreted :/ |
| 22:53.09 | Fisker | so nicoli_s |
| 22:53.49 | Shirik | ok so, we explain to this guy that we're a help channel for wikipedia not a magazine |
| 22:53.53 | Fisker | hvad skal jeg sige til min kæreste Shirik ? |
| 22:53.54 | Shirik | and he's like "oh" |
| 22:53.58 | Shirik | followed by (15:49:39) (babygirl) i was charged for them and i did not order |
| 22:54.01 | Fisker | he? |
| 22:57.21 | Fisker | pls Shirik |
| 22:57.37 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 23:05.04 | kd3 | o_O; a GT520 connecting over the pci bus? |
| 23:05.26 | kd3 | http://techreport.com/discussions.x/21724 |
| 23:08.26 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:11.05 | foxlit | http://i.imgur.com/jZtMV.jpg |
| 23:13.34 | Fisker | hello kd3 |
| 23:14.09 | Fisker | how did that happen? |
| 23:14.17 | Fisker | Did they google PCI-Express and got the wrong link? |
| 23:16.54 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: the ad is amusing |
| 23:16.59 | foxlit | indeed |
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| 23:36.02 | Jamash | naw Fisker |
| 23:36.06 | Jamash | then it would be PCI-X |
| 23:37.02 | Jamash | I'm so good and finding and losing things |
| 23:37.24 | Jamash | I've been looking for two loose screws (haw haw) for about half an hour, and I say to myself "I give up!" and there they are |
| 23:38.08 | Jamash | I can also summon late buses by opening my bus schedule in a dramatic fashion |
| 23:38.35 | Jamash | and lose small objects in under five seconds so that it takes ten minutes to find them (minimum) |
| 23:39.09 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: are you a mac user? |
| 23:40.08 | airtonix | anyway does spotlight have a hotkey? like synapse and gnome-do for linux does? |
| 23:41.10 | airtonix | or are you limited to activating it by the excrutiatingly painful method of dragging the mouse to the torturous corner of the screen and agnoisingly left clicking the magnifying glass? |
| 23:41.49 | airtonix | oh command space |
| 23:43.05 | Arrowmaster | i got my diablo3 calendar for 2012, they didnt mark the d3 release day on it =( |
| 23:43.19 | airtonix | hey Arrowmaster, i got a beta invite again |
| 23:43.25 | Arrowmaster | give |
| 23:43.33 | airtonix | but they want me to give them my password |
| 23:43.45 | Arrowmaster | you should do it |
| 23:43.49 | airtonix | i did |
| 23:44.11 | airtonix | lucy.lu@gmail.com |
| 23:44.16 | airtonix | longtime |
| 23:52.38 | *** part/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@dialup-4.246.252.28.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net) |
