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| 01:35.01 | foxlit | Restoration, 4P -- Your Rejuvenation and Regrowth spells have a 10% chance to Timeslip and have double the normal duration. |
| 01:35.09 | foxlit | morons :( |
| 01:36.34 | Dagmar | Holy crap |
| 01:36.59 | Dagmar | Skrillex got his hands on some of those laser projectors for creating illusions on physical surfaces |
| 01:37.11 | Dagmar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9WNsCqaCn4 |
| 01:37.16 | Dagmar | *bog-bog-boggle* |
| 01:38.46 | foxlit | could the video quality be any worse? |
| 01:42.50 | Dagmar | Well, perhaps a LITTLE bit worse but jesus that's the first time I've seen someone using that tech on a stage |
| 01:43.16 | Dagmar | The effect is awesome |
| 01:43.41 | Dagmar | This may be relevant to more interests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J_q5bf9oog heh |
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| 06:19.44 | starlon | o.o |
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| 07:24.21 | Fisker | starlon |
| 07:24.48 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 07:24.50 | Fisker | i wanna beta |
| 07:32.51 | Fisker | YUUUUUUUUUUS |
| 07:35.32 | airtonix | murders Fisker |
| 07:39.05 | Fisker | what |
| 07:39.13 | bluspacecow | *bliskers the fiskery fisker* |
| 07:39.13 | Fisker | i'm trying to disenchant something |
| 07:39.18 | Fisker | but it says i'm busy looting bluspacecow |
| 07:39.21 | Fisker | BUSY LOOTING |
| 07:39.34 | bluspacecow | @fisker just use the Neplhalim Cube! |
| 07:40.04 | Fisker | i used your mom |
| 07:40.05 | Fisker | hoho |
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| 07:43.59 | Fisker | so bluspacecow |
| 07:44.02 | Fisker | i also got an invisible item |
| 07:44.08 | bluspacecow | OH RLY |
| 07:44.09 | Fisker | yes |
| 07:44.14 | bluspacecow | NO WAI |
| 07:44.41 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/IogaH.jpg <-how does that work? |
| 07:45.16 | Fisker | could even equip it to spawn it |
| 07:45.18 | Fisker | ell oh ell |
| 07:47.00 | starlon | Buy gold much? ell oh ell |
| 07:47.18 | Fisker | lol? |
| 07:47.29 | starlon | lol! |
| 07:47.32 | Fisker | umad |
| 07:47.39 | starlon | nods. |
| 07:55.11 | olafski_ | bleh I have 3 times that and I only play 10 minutes a day =( |
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| 08:28.09 | Fisker | oh god |
| 08:28.13 | Fisker | i might die |
| 08:28.50 | Fisker | LAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 08:29.53 | karl_w_w | Fisker is dead space 2 any good? |
| 08:30.01 | Fisker | how should i know? |
| 08:31.29 | starlon | Fisker, if you're about to die, transfer your WoW gold to me pls. |
| 08:31.36 | Fisker | no starlon |
| 08:31.39 | starlon | :( |
| 08:31.42 | Fisker | that was madness |
| 08:31.50 | Fisker | i was setting up some tnt in minecraft |
| 08:32.17 | starlon | dangerous stuff |
| 08:32.31 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/izJus.jpg |
| 08:32.31 | Fisker | boom |
| 08:32.39 | Fisker | that used to be a mountain btw |
| 08:32.49 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 08:32.59 | Fisker | there was a block of lava inside my tnt cube |
| 08:33.00 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 08:33.24 | starlon | What's the point of that game anyways? |
| 08:33.31 | starlon | Sand castle for PCs? |
| 08:33.44 | Xinhuan | its a creative building (with survival elements) game |
| 08:33.48 | Xinhuan | imagine sim city, but better |
| 08:33.54 | starlon | Hmm |
| 08:34.06 | Xinhuan | there's no point or goal, you create them yourself |
| 08:34.21 | Xinhuan | its awesome in multiplayer because you build a grand structure and others see it |
| 08:34.21 | starlon | And blow them up. |
| 08:34.40 | starlon | sounds time consuming |
| 08:34.51 | Xinhuan | and the redstone circuitry you can build in Minecraft are the exact same circuitry used in irl circuitry (AND/NOR/OR/etc gates, latches, memory units, CPUs, etc) |
| 08:35.00 | Xinhuan | so you can really do some complicated stuff |
| 08:35.04 | Xinhuan | if you are into electronics |
| 08:35.13 | starlon | oh nice :) |
| 08:35.27 | kd3 | redstone just takes up a hell of a lot of space since there's no ICs. all we get is a not gate |
| 08:35.45 | Xinhuan | people find ways to abuse game mechanics to achieve automated systems of farming various mobs and food items in the game |
| 08:36.06 | Xinhuan | but its the game mechanics that make the phsyics of the game so interesting, in how they interact |
| 08:36.31 | Xinhuan | when you combine circuitry that interacts with the world by moving blocks |
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| 08:36.44 | Xinhuan | you get some really serious stuff, like programmable pianos |
| 08:36.49 | Xinhuan | and stuff like that |
| 08:36.52 | starlon | nice |
| 08:37.12 | Xinhuan | because with pistons, ROM units are very easy to make now |
| 08:37.17 | bluspacecow | or TNT guns |
| 08:37.19 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 08:37.34 | Xinhuan | someone made a RAM unit recently, can read/write fairly slowly, because the "harddisk" is like 0.04 RPM |
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| 08:38.16 | Xinhuan | and its like a 14 byte x 32 byte array i think |
| 08:41.01 | Mr_Rabies | i made my first functional redstone device today |
| 08:41.14 | Mr_Rabies | it's a machine that automatically harvests crops |
| 08:41.39 | Mr_Rabies | and deposits them to where i'm standing where i flip the lever |
| 08:43.04 | Fisker | oh you java |
| 08:43.05 | Fisker | you mad |
| 08:44.46 | Fisker | guess i'm going to allocate 8 gigs of memory then |
| 08:45.08 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/NBWMA.png ;_; |
| 08:45.30 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 08:45.55 | Fisker | maxed that too :( |
| 08:46.15 | Fisker | i wonder what crater awaits me when i get in |
| 08:48.37 | Xinhuan | probably no crater |
| 08:48.44 | Fisker | maybe |
| 08:48.45 | Xinhuan | as the explosion never happened |
| 08:48.55 | Fisker | wouldn't it have figured that out by now then? |
| 08:49.01 | Corrodias | if the world will ever load, that is. |
| 08:49.14 | Fisker | given it 12GB of memory now atleast |
| 08:49.18 | Xinhuan | is it smart enough to save it just as it crashes? |
| 08:49.32 | Fisker | basically it is "simulating the world for a bit" for like 10 minutes |
| 08:49.37 | Fisker | then it goes "saving chunks" |
| 08:49.42 | Fisker | then "Out of memory baw" |
| 08:49.56 | Xinhuan | do it a few times |
| 08:49.57 | Fisker | there |
| 08:50.38 | Fisker | wasn't that big of a deal :( |
| 08:50.52 | Fisker | think it lost some of the explosion yeah |
| 08:51.37 | airtonix | hey fisker |
| 08:52.32 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/SUhm4.jpg |
| 08:53.40 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 08:54.09 | olafski | interesting world :] |
| 08:54.47 | Fisker | nah i just placed like 10000 blocks of tnt |
| 08:55.16 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 08:55.40 | airtonix | i think you are cheating |
| 08:56.24 | Fisker | i am |
| 08:56.34 | airtonix | you should stop using outlook |
| 08:56.37 | olafski | I've never even made one block of tnt =( |
| 08:56.38 | Corrodias | i think your mom's cheating |
| 08:56.43 | Fisker | your mom uses outlook |
| 08:56.46 | Fisker | hey Corrodias btw |
| 08:56.54 | Corrodias | with me |
| 08:57.08 | airtonix | old |
| 08:57.11 | Corrodias | yeah hello |
| 08:58.06 | Mr_Rabies | gabe newell probably doesn't use outlook anymore |
| 08:58.45 | Fisker | wow |
| 08:58.59 | olafski | uidev |
| 08:59.21 | Fisker | somehow my tnt explosion bugged up world edit |
| 08:59.53 | olafski | what was that red grid in your first screenshot? |
| 09:00.15 | Dagmar | World-edit client-side mod |
| 09:00.44 | airtonix | he is cheating |
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| 09:01.34 | airtonix | magma cube |
| 09:01.53 | airtonix | blaze rod? |
| 09:02.11 | airtonix | omg Fisker |
| 09:02.13 | airtonix | Can no longer jump repeatedly by holding a key |
| 09:02.16 | airtonix | wtf |
| 09:02.21 | Fisker | umad? |
| 09:02.24 | airtonix | yeah |
| 09:02.36 | starlon | "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo." is a grammatically valid sentence in the English language |
| 09:02.40 | airtonix | how will i express my digital bordeom? |
| 09:02.44 | starlon | so says wikipedia |
| 09:04.19 | Dagmar | You should try the 1.9 nether. |
| 09:04.23 | Dagmar | The new fire elementals give cake |
| 09:09.12 | Fisker | so that was 50000 blocks |
| 09:09.15 | Fisker | entire screen is now blue |
| 09:10.38 | bluspacecow | so i totally trolled your comptuer then ? |
| 09:10.52 | bluspacecow | i go home nows |
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| 09:15.13 | airtonix | hey Dagmar, there are mad people on the forums |
| 09:15.28 | airtonix | but i have a good reason for being mad |
| 09:15.33 | airtonix | i can't remove blocks |
| 09:15.35 | airtonix | :< |
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| 09:25.55 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/RwDJj.jpg |
| 09:25.58 | Fisker | should i left click? |
| 09:26.38 | olafski | < airtonix> Can no longer jump repeatedly by holding a key <-- :'( |
| 09:28.09 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: all tnt? |
| 09:28.15 | Fisker | yus |
| 09:28.26 | Fisker | game is lagging so much i can't even turn it on D: |
| 09:28.28 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: do it, but do it with out laging |
| 09:28.30 | Fisker | there we go |
| 09:28.42 | Thunder_Child | i want that explosion with no lag |
| 09:28.45 | Fisker | haha |
| 09:28.51 | Fisker | game is actually doing a decent job of handling it |
| 09:29.18 | Fisker | spider died to tnt |
| 09:31.07 | Fisker | i wonder how much actually exploded |
| 09:31.50 | Fisker | was a decent chunk |
| 09:32.00 | Fisker | i guess the rest didn't explode because i haven't visited there yet? :P |
| 09:32.44 | Thunder_Child | yea, Schrödinger's cat paradox |
| 09:33.09 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/un8kb.jpg |
| 09:33.32 | Xinhuan | lol thats fun |
| 09:33.40 | Thunder_Child | interesting distribution |
| 09:34.15 | Thunder_Child | not only is it square, there are parts that should have exploded. go look at them Fisker |
| 09:34.50 | Fisker | i need one where i spawn in a giant plains dome |
| 09:34.54 | Fisker | more contact area for tnt |
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| 09:35.35 | Fisker | you were right |
| 09:39.43 | Fisker | wow |
| 09:39.47 | Fisker | for how long does this go on O_o |
| 09:40.08 | Xinhuan | someone tried to explode a few hundred thousand, said it took a few hours |
| 09:40.28 | Xinhuan | and that's with item drops disabled via a mod |
| 09:40.30 | Fisker | oh it's not that |
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| 09:40.36 | Xinhuan | cos those are the ones that cause lag |
| 09:40.43 | Xinhuan | and physics calculation |
| 09:40.46 | Fisker | it's more that this area i put tnt on seems a lot bigger than i thought :D |
| 09:40.59 | Fisker | This explosion had 150k tnt i think |
| 09:41.02 | Xinhuan | well TNT cause other expoding TNT to fly |
| 09:41.08 | Kraftman | Whats the difference between OnMouseDown and OnClick ? |
| 09:41.27 | Fisker | one is when the mouse button is pressed the other is when the mouse button is depressed? |
| 09:41.48 | Kraftman | then whats the difference between OnMouseUp and OnClick? |
| 09:42.14 | kd3 | you can push the mouse button on one frame, drag the cursor somewhere else and release it |
| 09:42.28 | Xinhuan | the difference is that OnClick is one event |
| 09:42.33 | Xinhuan | and OnMouseDown/Up is 2 events |
| 09:42.57 | Kraftman | and onclick only triggers if both the mouse down and mouseup were on the same frame? |
| 09:43.03 | Xinhuan | you generally use OnClick, unless you need to differentiate the up/down action |
| 09:43.16 | Kraftman | That makes sense, thanks :) |
| 09:43.36 | Fisker | i think that was all :O |
| 09:45.46 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/LMy6Q.jpg |
| 09:46.33 | kd3 | cripes fisker. 150k tnt? how tightly was it packed? |
| 09:46.48 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/RwDJj.jpg |
| 09:47.00 | Kraftman | wow |
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| 09:54.26 | Fisker | btw |
| 09:54.32 | Fisker | i found a good plains biome |
| 09:54.42 | Fisker | with a village just next to my spawn |
| 09:55.23 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/zxSBs.jpg <-it's gonna blow |
| 09:55.42 | olafski | I still haven't found any of those villages :( |
| 09:57.09 | Fisker | haha |
| 09:57.11 | Fisker | 30 seconds |
| 09:57.13 | Fisker | out of memory |
| 09:57.19 | Fisker | i set it to 12GB btw |
| 09:58.44 | Torhal | http://us.akinator.com/ <-- freaky |
| 10:02.35 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/fo7JT.jpg <-the red bar is supposed to be like this right? |
| 10:03.08 | Corrodias | we wouldn't call it a bar if it wasn't! |
| 10:03.56 | Fisker | btw that is 260k blocks :O |
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| 10:04.02 | Fisker | it's actually not all that bad |
| 10:04.04 | Fisker | just kind of a slideshow |
| 10:05.17 | Xinhuan | that red bar is supposed to be processing time per frame or something |
| 10:06.05 | olafski | it guessed Notch right, torhal ;) |
| 10:06.15 | olafski | "is your character fat?" "I think of.... notch" :) |
| 10:06.55 | Torhal | olafski: Heh |
| 10:10.49 | Corrodias | hahah |
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| 10:26.44 | airtonix | Fisker: i suppose you cheated in some way to place the tnt to begin with |
| 10:27.05 | Fisker | what are you? airtonix the observer? |
| 10:28.13 | Corrodias | maybe creative mode, maybe a map editor |
| 10:28.38 | Fisker | i wouldn't even place 250000 blocks in creative mode lol |
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| 10:30.03 | olafski | torhal: fun thing.. hasn't got one wrong yet for me |
| 10:30.21 | olafski | SMP all the way btw :( |
| 10:30.37 | Corrodias | symmetric multiprocessing |
| 10:30.40 | Corrodias | i always read it that way |
| 10:30.48 | Corrodias | well, sometimes as symmetric multiplayer |
| 10:31.09 | airtonix | why don't people just say multiplayer or mp |
| 10:31.18 | airtonix | silly multiplayer |
| 10:31.26 | olafski | agreed :P |
| 10:31.30 | airtonix | savent single player |
| 10:31.39 | olafski | hardcore mode sounds kinda fun too |
| 10:31.53 | Fisker | how does one simply smp into minecraft olafski ? |
| 10:31.57 | Torhal | olafski: It's freaky how it gets some after answering seemingly-unrelated questions. |
| 10:32.05 | Corrodias | well, can you have Creative MultiPlayer mode? |
| 10:32.15 | Torhal | Corrodias: Yes |
| 10:32.18 | Corrodias | you can set a MC server to Creative mode, but i don't know if it does anything |
| 10:33.40 | AcidWeb | That setting is set on world level Corrodias. So you can have both creative and survival worlds on one server. |
| 10:35.03 | Corrodias | i don't understand what you're saying. multiple worlds on the same server process? |
| 10:35.26 | AcidWeb | Sure. |
| 10:35.46 | AcidWeb | Multiverse. |
| 10:35.53 | Corrodias | last time i was really paying attention to minecraft, they just added the Nether. so what's new? how do you do that? |
| 10:36.18 | AcidWeb | Vanilla servers cant do that. |
| 10:36.33 | AcidWeb | But Bukkit with proper plugins... |
| 10:36.54 | AcidWeb | http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiverse-core/ |
| 10:37.03 | airtonix | apparently vanilla server can't even support removing blocks anymore |
| 10:37.12 | airtonix | minecraft must have been bought out by appel |
| 10:37.18 | Corrodias | it's a pity that those need to be updated in some way with every MC version update |
| 10:37.42 | airtonix | "iCraft : Extra Features : $49.99 : remove blocks, $149.99 : craft tools" |
| 10:38.15 | AcidWeb | Corrodias: No choice really. vanilla server is piece of useless crap. |
| 10:38.16 | Corrodias | how does it handle inventory when passing players between worlds of different modes, do you know? |
| 10:38.39 | AcidWeb | http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiinv/ |
| 10:38.53 | AcidWeb | And you got separate inventories |
| 10:39.52 | airtonix | man this is bullshit |
| 10:40.10 | Corrodias | gosh, bukkit must be pretty fancy |
| 10:40.57 | AcidWeb | Bukkit is only bag of fixes and API for creating fancy stuff. |
| 10:41.33 | AcidWeb | If you run plan bukkit jar it will have this same features like vanilla server... |
| 10:41.37 | AcidWeb | but run faster ;p\ |
| 10:41.53 | AcidWeb | *plain |
| 10:42.00 | Corrodias | interesting. |
| 10:42.19 | Corrodias | so all the "changes", aside from bug fixes, are done with plugins? |
| 10:42.28 | AcidWeb | y |
| 10:43.31 | Corrodias | i like this. i only wonder how they do it, and how the process goes for them keeping it up to date with minecraft releases. |
| 10:44.11 | AcidWeb | 1.8 update was quite long about a week |
| 10:44.45 | AcidWeb | Normally you get working bukikit 3-4 days after mc update. |
| 10:45.31 | AcidWeb | I dont know technical details never write anything in java |
| 10:45.48 | AcidWeb | Also notch give pre-prereleases to bukkit team |
| 10:45.54 | AcidWeb | so they can start work sooner. |
| 10:45.55 | Corrodias | that's cool of him |
| 10:46.08 | Corrodias | what the heck is craftbukkit, do you know? it's linked on the front page |
| 10:46.29 | Corrodias | oh, never mind |
| 10:46.32 | AcidWeb | CraftBukkit is just full name ;p |
| 10:46.33 | Corrodias | the faq covers that right away |
| 10:47.31 | olafski | torhal: got one, I couldn't get it to guess Maiev :) it guessed tyrande, vareesa(sp?) and some other night elf |
| 10:47.32 | batbot | olafski, nothing found. |
| 10:48.16 | Corrodias | Bukkit and CraftBukkit have not been officially released yet <-- hah |
| 10:48.27 | Torhal | olafski: I've stumped it like four times and actually added characters. |
| 10:48.41 | Torhal | Twice though it had the character in its database |
| 10:49.17 | AcidWeb | Corrodias: You know MC was not released yet ;p |
| 10:49.57 | Corrodias | We already have over 1500 plugins <-- jesucristo |
| 11:04.28 | airtonix | OH GOD THE LATENCY!! |
| 11:04.30 | airtonix | save me |
| 11:04.40 | airtonix | Torhal: help |
| 11:11.25 | Fisker | oh god |
| 11:11.28 | Fisker | this tool is awesome |
| 11:11.31 | airtonix | yay goes from 225fps to 0 |
| 11:11.35 | airtonix | FUUUUUUUU |
| 11:11.45 | airtonix | kills Fisker |
| 11:14.43 | Fisker | madness you say? |
| 11:15.33 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/WkU67.jpg |
| 11:15.50 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/S4rFi.jpg |
| 11:16.37 | Fisker | woops |
| 11:16.50 | Fisker | think one of my tnt's caulooks like my tnt caught on fire |
| 11:17.07 | Fisker | stupid gaem ;_; |
| 11:17.13 | Fisker | stealing focus and stuff |
| 11:19.51 | Fisker | game does TNT pretty well as long as you don't do cubes |
| 11:32.14 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 11:32.18 | Fisker | i will need to abuse you |
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| 11:45.21 | airtonix | btw |
| 11:45.25 | airtonix | summer |
| 11:50.27 | Kraps | morning |
| 11:51.50 | Fisker | dat memory usage |
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| 12:34.10 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
| 12:34.16 | Fisker | iglad |
| 12:34.21 | airtonix | yumadtho |
| 12:44.01 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 12:45.39 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 12:48.53 | Stanzilla | Fisker: my shadow tier 13 boni are crap. imad |
| 12:49.56 | nevcairiel | the 2p bonus doesnt sound too bad |
| 12:51.25 | Stanzilla | but it is |
| 12:51.39 | Stanzilla | sw:d is only doing real dmg under 25% target hp |
| 12:52.09 | Stanzilla | and with the set bonus, the mana gain we have from the backlash dmg is gone |
| 12:52.25 | Stanzilla | over 25% it does like 10k crits |
| 12:53.42 | Stanzilla | so you only used it to regain mana |
| 12:53.55 | Stanzilla | now with the bonus it maybe does 12k crits and does not give mana, wohoo |
| 12:54.15 | Stanzilla | or 15k w/e |
| 12:54.57 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 12:55.14 | airtonix | did you know vowel can be number |
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| 12:58.12 | Fisker | i don't like they're removing our zealotry timer again |
| 12:58.16 | Fisker | but i guess + 12% damage is ok |
| 12:58.38 | Fisker | not sure if the judgement is that useful though |
| 12:59.03 | Fisker | man |
| 12:59.14 | Fisker | so just because you spawn 100000 torches the game suddenly starts lagging |
| 13:00.36 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.45 | airtonix | why can't you understand |
| 13:09.00 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
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| 13:13.58 | airtonix | Fisker: don't you hate when you're pirating stuff |
| 13:14.57 | airtonix | and you find out it's actually ccsa |
| 13:15.44 | airtonix | well i guess i would if i was a ARIAA ceo trying to troll someone |
| 13:17.58 | Kraps | https://www.facebook.com/pages/Will-Smith-Fan-Club/310281634993 |
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| 15:14.19 | Fisker | hey you alestane |
| 15:14.35 | alestane | Hmm? |
| 15:15.35 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 15:15.41 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:16.32 | Cide | HI SHIKER |
| 15:16.44 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 15:17.02 | alestane | A shirker? Is that what you get if you combine Shirik and Fisker? |
| 15:32.03 | airtonix | hey Fisker, is it true that when you install an iphone application that the app store doesn't tell what kind of access the application needs permission to use? |
| 15:32.34 | airtonix | "oh hey look this wallpaper application wants to access my addressbook and phone, hey NO WORRIES [INSTALL]" |
| 15:32.38 | Fisker | i don't know |
| 15:32.49 | airtonix | derp |
| 15:33.56 | airtonix | Fisker: i guess that's a level of information apples feels would burden customers view of their white tinted glasses |
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| 15:36.55 | foxlit | airtonix: what makes you think iphone apps can access address books without user intervention? |
| 15:38.03 | airtonix | foxlit: you're right, i would just take the stance that every single app wants to and take the "user intervention" of not installing it in the first place |
| 15:38.30 | foxlit | shouldn't let lack of knowledge stop your trolling, though :) |
| 15:38.49 | airtonix | becuase if even just one apps gets onto the market that can do the things apple promises to stop, then whats the point of trusting them at all |
| 15:38.56 | airtonix | since you know |
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| 15:39.10 | airtonix | they don't provide a run down on installation of what the app wants to do |
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| 16:10.19 | Fisker | what should a free Fisker do Shirik ? |
| 16:10.43 | haste | sell yourself to the night |
| 16:14.28 | Fisker | why is minecraft so slow haste ? |
| 16:14.46 | haste | java. |
| 16:16.16 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 16:16.27 | Stanzilla | blizzard should outsource wow boss fights, what do you think? |
| 16:16.27 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 16:16.33 | Fisker | no |
| 16:18.32 | Fisker | thats racist Kraps |
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| 17:07.39 | Kraps | you're racist Fisker |
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| 17:26.56 | karl_w_w | can paladins use staves? |
| 17:28.24 | Xinhuan | no |
| 17:28.39 | Xinhuan | unless you're talking about a diablo 2 paladin |
| 17:28.59 | Xinhuan | in which the answer is also no :P |
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| 17:33.37 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 20:25.55 | tem | Anyone remember vector math well? |
| 20:26.23 | tem | If I've got 2 unit vectors, the dot product gives me the cosine of the angle between them |
| 20:26.40 | tem | is there a similar operation that yields the sine of the angle between? |
| 20:28.59 | Torhal | airtonix, Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/SoDbX.jpg |
| 20:35.38 | Iriel | tem: Just use sqrt(1-cos^2) |
| 20:35.47 | Iriel | where cos is the dot product |
| 20:35.51 | tem | yeah but |
| 20:36.12 | tem | that seems like it could potentially be squaring away a negative value |
| 20:36.50 | tem | I've got a cos of 5/sqrt(34) and I know my sin is 3/sqrt(34) or -3/sqrt(34) |
| 20:37.14 | Iriel | Do you know what you're actually trying to determine? |
| 20:37.18 | Iriel | geometrically? |
| 20:37.36 | tem | creating a rotation matrix to rotate a vector to be in line with the y axis |
| 20:38.02 | tem | oh actually |
| 20:38.04 | tem | that solves my problem |
| 20:38.05 | Iriel | Aren't you making life fantastically more complicated than you need? |
| 20:38.12 | tem | since I know if theta is positive or negative |
| 20:38.48 | Iriel | Your vector's dX and dY are the sin and cos of the rotation already |
| 20:39.07 | tem | dy anx dz |
| 20:39.08 | tem | but yes |
| 20:39.14 | tem | and* |
| 20:39.46 | Iriel | Indeed, yes, the only tricky bit (and not really tricky at all) is getting the signs right |
| 20:39.50 | Iriel | in your matrix |
| 20:39.58 | tem | yeah |
| 20:40.43 | tem | I wasn't _sure_ of dy and dz being cos and sin, though |
| 20:40.53 | tem | which is why I was trying to calculate them another way |
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| 20:41.10 | tem | and I couldn't decide if my intuition was right about dz being sin |
| 20:49.27 | Iriel | Are these 3D vectors? |
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| 20:50.45 | tem | yeah |
| 20:50.55 | Iriel | It's midly more complex, but still IIRC not too bad |
| 20:51.26 | tem | it's pretty much just leave the column and row corresponding to the axis you're rotating about alone |
| 20:51.44 | tem | and put cos sin, sin cos in the other 4 spots |
| 20:51.52 | tem | and negate one of the sins |
| 20:51.59 | tem | but which one is anybody's guess |
| 20:52.05 | tem | (i.e. look it up) |
| 20:52.13 | Iriel | You just have to remember that for a given PAIR of vector components it's NOT a unit vector most of the time |
| 20:52.25 | Iriel | dont look it up, just think about a small angle |
| 20:53.05 | tem | I think you're implying that I really understand how the matrix components affect the result and can visualize that in my head :P |
| 20:53.14 | Fisker | umad Torhal ? |
| 20:53.16 | tem | I can derive it if I need to, but doing it on the fly? nope. |
| 20:53.20 | Iriel | Not really, just run the math with sin in either direction 8-) |
| 20:53.25 | Iriel | you'll see when it's wrong |
| 20:53.25 | tem | ha |
| 20:53.29 | tem | oh definitely |
| 20:53.40 | tem | but this is what I have to deal with now: A quaternion is a hypercomplex number q = s + ia + jb + kc, with i^2 = j^2 = k^2 = -1, ij = k, ji = -k |
| 20:54.04 | tem | I challenge you to write that sentence in a way that is _more_ intimidating |
| 20:54.18 | Iriel | hehe 8-) |
| 20:54.30 | Iriel | Its times like this I remember why I changed my major |
| 20:54.35 | Iriel | (though in general I love math still) |
| 20:54.44 | Iriel | heads off to the store⦠Good Luck! |
| 20:54.47 | tem | this is actually for a csc course |
| 20:55.04 | Fisker | Sixen have you seen force's videos btw? |
| 20:55.14 | tem | we're implementing in c++ a bunch of stuff that graphics libraries or the video card itself does for you |
| 20:55.28 | tem | (to better understand how it works, of course!) |
| 20:56.10 | Sixen | bi |
| 20:56.12 | Sixen | no* |
| 20:56.40 | tem | With my new keyboard, I sometimes have a hard time hitting the home row |
| 20:56.51 | tem | I get one finger off and everything goes to hell |
| 20:57.07 | tem | e.g. 'bi' when I intended 'no' |
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| 20:59.12 | Fisker | oh ok Sixen |
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| 21:42.56 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:43.23 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 21:43.29 | Fisker | sup? |
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| 23:15.01 | foxlit | "Each offensive spell you cast has a 100% chance to activate Arcane Missiles." |
| 23:15.06 | foxlit | except it doesn't. Why? :( |
| 23:15.22 | Dagmar | You're only casting _racy_ spells. |
| 23:15.34 | Corrodias | get some sexist joke spells in there |
| 23:15.41 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 23:16.49 | foxlit | "As of patch 4.2.0, there is also a known bug where the tooltip for Arcane Missiles is showing the incorrect proc rate (currently showing 100% instead of 40%)." |
| 23:16.52 | foxlit | yay, wowpedia. |
| 23:17.02 | Shirik | I like that bug |
| 23:18.22 | foxlit | Shirik: what other bugs do you like? |
| 23:18.32 | Shirik | anything that makes mages qq |
| 23:19.34 | foxlit | why so much mage hate? |
| 23:19.48 | Shirik | because I'm a priest |
| 23:20.24 | foxlit | since when is that a thing? |
| 23:21.01 | Shirik | since FUCK COUNTERSPELL |
| 23:22.44 | foxlit | that seems kind of petty. There are plenty of interrupts/lockouts to go around |
| 23:23.15 | Corrodias | but that one is bad. |
| 23:24.27 | Shirik | actually I hate spell lock more |
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| 23:57.20 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 23:57.53 | Fisker | not so hey bluspacecow |
| 23:58.06 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 23:58.34 | Fisker | wanna kill all humans? |
| 23:58.47 | mckenziemc | not so hey mckenziemc |
| 23:59.24 | Fisker | bye mckenziemc |
| 23:59.34 | mckenziemc | die Fisker |
