| 00:01.29 | foxlit | except it does :( |
| 00:02.34 | Fisker | you can sell gold on RMAH Gnarfoz |
| 00:02.41 | Fisker | anyway i was making a JOKE |
| 00:02.49 | Fisker | because gold would lose value if you sold it on the gold ah ell oh ell |
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| 00:02.55 | Fisker | so pointless to sell etc. |
| 00:07.40 | starlon | A blind man walks into a store, picks up his dog, and starts swinging it around by the tail. An employee asked him if there was anything he could help the man with. The blind man replied, "No thanks, I'm just looking around." |
| 00:09.31 | Kraps | typical me, stress a whole day about why my hearing aid isnt working properly and only check it out at the end of the day and see the easy fix |
| 00:09.45 | Kraps | sometimes i hate myself |
| 00:13.14 | Kraps | sorry about that |
| 00:15.25 | foxlit | hm, fixed layout now. <3 |
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| 00:32.59 | Ackis | squirts all over Torhal|work's face. |
| 00:39.06 | pompy | ew |
| 00:43.53 | Shirik | Ackis... |
| 00:47.16 | Torhal | That was rather... |
| 00:47.20 | Torhal | Erm... |
| 00:52.29 | Cairenn | disgusting, crude, unnecessary, inappropriate |
| 00:52.49 | Zhinjio | Torhal, Cairenn: heya |
| 00:52.57 | Cairenn | Hi Zhinjio |
| 00:55.19 | Torhal | Hey man. |
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| 01:13.24 | Adys | Cairenn: Sounds like Ackis all right |
| 01:13.44 | Cairenn | Also sounds like it needs to stop. |
| 01:15.03 | Cairenn | I'm very tired of the SNR and the completely inappropriate stuff in here. Flirting, joking around, whatever, that's one thing, but it is so far over the line lately ... |
| 01:16.10 | Cairenn | I'm also tired of people bitching about it. If someone's inanity is bugging you that badly, use the lovely /ignore feature that most IRC clients have. |
| 01:17.07 | Cairenn | When it's at the point that I am so fed up I have to log out of channel otherwise I'm going to go off on people ... |
| 01:17.59 | mckenziemc1 | :( |
| 01:18.05 | Cairenn | So, seriously, those that know that the SNR and inappropriate is being directed at them - grow the hell up, we aren't children. And the others, use /ignore already. |
| 01:18.39 | Cairenn | Everyone else is fine. |
| 01:26.18 | Kraps | whats SNR |
| 01:26.20 | mckenziemc | what other games (including other genres) have addon support like WoW's (where the addons can change ui logic, rather than just art/maps etc) |
| 01:26.24 | mckenziemc | signal to noise ration |
| 01:26.25 | Adys | signal to noise Kraps |
| 01:26.26 | mckenziemc | ratio |
| 01:26.54 | Adys | mckenziemc: rift for one |
| 01:27.02 | Adys | and uhm.. that other one |
| 01:27.06 | Cairenn | LotRO as well |
| 01:27.13 | Adys | no no, not that one |
| 01:27.14 | Adys | the other |
| 01:27.21 | Cairenn | Warhammer |
| 01:27.26 | Adys | noo |
| 01:27.30 | Adys | come on, you know the one i mean |
| 01:27.33 | Kraps | aion? |
| 01:27.39 | Adys | i would never mean aion |
| 01:28.21 | Adys | one that has an api very similar to wow's |
| 01:28.41 | Kraps | champions online? |
| 01:28.45 | Adys | couple of people in the chan ask regularly about it |
| 01:28.48 | Adys | wtf is champions online? |
| 01:28.55 | Kraps | AHAHAA |
| 01:29.24 | Kraps | OR |
| 01:29.50 | Adys | or what? |
| 01:30.05 | Kraps | runescape? |
| 01:30.13 | Adys | maybe |
| 01:30.21 | Adys | yeah I think so |
| 01:30.41 | Adys | actually no. |
| 01:31.21 | Adys | but probably had rune in it |
| 01:31.24 | Kraps | :p |
| 01:31.58 | Adys | runes of magic |
| 01:32.02 | Adys | Cairenn: ^ |
| 01:32.25 | Adys | (thanks google; query: "video games with the word rune in it") |
| 01:32.31 | mckenziemc | are all of those mmorpgs? |
| 01:32.32 | Cairenn | ah |
| 01:32.45 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 01:32.55 | Kraps | world of war rune spell crafp |
| 01:33.05 | Kraps | -p +t |
| 01:33.42 | Cairenn | EQ, EQ2 and VG just have interface skinning (mostly), some macro'ing, but no real API like WoW |
| 01:35.32 | Adys | i dont know many single player games that have proper apis |
| 01:35.57 | Adys | at least scripting APIs |
| 01:36.20 | Adys | a few have their own macro language, some others just have weird shit |
| 01:36.33 | mckenziemc | doesn't have to be rpg to be multiplayer : / |
| 01:36.43 | Adys | eh? |
| 01:40.58 | Cairenn | Of course there are other games that are MMOs, but they aren't usually referred to that way. FPSs can be MMO (ala Half Life, Team Fortress, etc) - but people don't usually call them MMOFPS, the just call them FPS |
| 01:41.29 | Cairenn | When most people hear MMO, they think RPG |
| 01:41.30 | Adys | i dont think you can refer to self-hosted server games as MMOs |
| 01:41.31 | Azelphur | s/Team Fortress/Hat Fortress |
| 01:42.03 | Azelphur | Adys: I don't see how the self hosted server setup differs that much from instances. |
| 01:42.03 | Adys | theres probably a proper term for it |
| 01:42.14 | Adys | Azelphur: eh, it differs a lot in infrastructure |
| 01:42.26 | Azelphur | Adys: not really, World of warcraft itself consists of multiple totally separate servers. |
| 01:42.32 | Adys | so? |
| 01:42.33 | Azelphur | (In a single realm) |
| 01:42.55 | Adys | in one case, the players are limited to a set of servers hosted and owned by the company; if the company goes down, all the servers follow |
| 01:43.05 | Azelphur | yea, that's a bad thing :) |
| 01:43.06 | Adys | in the other case, the players themselves can create servers |
| 01:43.14 | Azelphur | that's a good thing :D |
| 01:43.30 | Adys | so theres by definition unlimited amount of servers |
| 01:43.38 | Azelphur | indeed |
| 01:43.38 | Adys | and usually, very limited amount of players on each |
| 01:43.53 | Adys | so the M kind of falls apart, it's just multiplayer online games |
| 01:44.15 | Azelphur | Adys: but it's the same with world of warcraft |
| 01:44.37 | Adys | not in any way |
| 01:44.39 | Azelphur | Adys: most of the players are separated into instances and worlds |
| 01:44.42 | Azelphur | yes in any way :) |
| 01:45.10 | Adys | you can have a (theoretically) indefinite amount of people in one instance |
| 01:45.22 | Adys | which kind of brings up the M again |
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| 01:45.34 | Azelphur | you can have a (theoretically) indefinite amount of people on a server, too |
| 01:45.41 | Azelphur | logic'd |
| 01:46.06 | Adys | no |
| 01:46.17 | Adys | one instance is an indefinite amount of servers |
| 01:46.23 | Adys | one server is... a set amount of one server |
| 01:46.25 | Dagmar | At least until one of the fiber connections for the backend fabric rips loose and starts burning holes through the datacenter walls and ceiling. |
| 01:47.00 | Azelphur | Adys: your saying you care more about how the server backend is setup compared to player distribution? |
| 01:47.27 | Adys | take it this way |
| 01:47.48 | Adys | if you own a company with a $1000 capital, you cant claim "I'm a big company because I could theoretically have 1 million employees I'd pay almost nothing" |
| 01:47.59 | Azelphur | wat |
| 01:48.08 | Adys | its the same for a server |
| 01:48.35 | Adys | just because you have a server and could theoretically host 10000 players on it if you assigned each of them 100kb of ram |
| 01:48.43 | Adys | it DOESNT WORK like that |
| 01:48.47 | Dagmar | UNtil you get too many people in one place and all the crosstalk makes the fiber connections start killing people |
| 01:48.52 | Azelphur | it doesn't work like that for world of warcraft either, haha |
| 01:49.05 | Adys | really Dagmar, what scifi show HAVE you been watching tonight |
| 01:49.09 | Azelphur | you make it sound like world of warcraft doesn't have player limits |
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| 01:49.19 | Dagmar | I work at a DC, man. |
| 01:49.38 | Adys | Azelphur: they're completely fucking different to a home box hosting a tf2 game |
| 01:49.45 | Azelphur | I host a dedi in a DC and get 400,000 hits a month to my game servers :) |
| 01:49.57 | Azelphur | who said anything about home boxes? ;) |
| 01:50.14 | Adys | home boxes are the majority of tf2 servers |
| 01:50.34 | Azelphur | source? |
| 01:50.44 | Adys | the tf2 server list |
| 01:50.45 | Azelphur | I'd disagree, the majority of people are using managed hosting. |
| 01:50.54 | Adys | do you see many servers with a player limit of 10000? |
| 01:50.57 | Azelphur | eg gameservers.com |
| 01:51.14 | Azelphur | Adys: nope, do you see many WoW instances with a player limit of 10,000? |
| 01:51.25 | Adys | whats up with you and instances? |
| 01:51.25 | Azelphur | logic'd again \o/ |
| 01:51.44 | Azelphur | Adys: because a tf2 "server" is just like a WoW instance |
| 01:51.46 | Adys | and yes, i see many wow instances with over 5000 players on it |
| 01:51.59 | Azelphur | gg your now officially assigned the batshit crazy hat |
| 01:52.01 | Azelphur | good day sir :p |
| 01:52.03 | kd3 | oh wow. sony's putting "no class action lawsuits against us" in their tos? |
| 01:52.10 | Adys | Azelphur: how about you learn what an instance means in wow? |
| 01:52.11 | Azelphur | kd3: indeed xD |
| 01:52.15 | Adys | it includes kalimdor/ek |
| 01:52.42 | Adys | and wow servers have had a lot more than 5k on them at once, on many occasions |
| 01:52.49 | kd3 | watched kalimdor grind to a halt when thousands of players were in silithus on medivh when we opened the gates of aq |
| 01:52.50 | Azelphur | Adys: how about you learn that the player cap on a server is less than 10k :) |
| 01:53.06 | Adys | Azelphur: link your sources |
| 01:53.13 | Dagmar | I remember the days of David Lynch's Wintergrasp. |
| 01:53.24 | Adys | as kd3 said, ive seen stupidly large events hosting thousands of players in one ZONE |
| 01:53.26 | Dagmar | I *really* should have recorded some of that |
| 01:53.30 | Dagmar | It was so surreal. |
| 01:53.33 | Adys | so one instance? easy |
| 01:53.54 | cogwheel | wtb moar guildies |
| 01:54.00 | cogwheel | *poke channel* |
| 01:54.24 | Adys | and back to the damn point: tf2 cant possibly host over 100 players on one map, for one reason: the maps are too small |
| 01:54.45 | Azelphur | Adys: the maps can be however big you want them to be |
| 01:54.54 | Azelphur | there are source engine powered mmos |
| 01:55.02 | Adys | yes, and they're not |
| 01:55.58 | Adys | so until you get yourself an infrastructure and a map that can host thousands of players and then get those people together on it - and if you do please link me the address I'll join in on the fun - you can't call it a *massively* online game |
| 01:56.24 | Dagmar | That means you're going to be using fiber on the backend. |
| 01:56.35 | Azelphur | lol |
| 01:56.36 | Adys | really what *has* that got to do with anything. >< |
| 01:56.39 | Dagmar | Get eye protection, and possibly carbon fiber plating. |
| 01:57.15 | Phelps | an mmo server would die if over 100 players |
| 01:57.22 | Phelps | fps ** |
| 01:57.38 | Azelphur | Phelps: depends on how the server is written tbh |
| 01:57.46 | Phelps | not well enough to handle 1k players |
| 01:57.49 | Azelphur | with srcds it nearly falls over with 32 players let alone 100, it's a pile of crap :D |
| 01:57.56 | Azelphur | but if it was written properly, sure it could handle it. |
| 01:58.00 | Phelps | sure |
| 01:58.09 | Adys | again with your theory |
| 01:58.10 | Phelps | but current FPS servers, i dont think any can handle 100+ players |
| 01:58.18 | Dagmar | Assuming all the players have FIOS connections. |
| 01:58.18 | Adys | you need to actually write it for it to be called that |
| 01:58.41 | Phelps | it would required quite a large amount of bandwidth |
| 01:58.50 | Phelps | if you where going to sync all bullet shots etc. |
| 01:58.52 | Dagmar | Broadcast contention mediation becomes a MAJOR fucking problem after about 300 anythings. |
| 01:59.04 | Azelphur | Phelps: I have 95 players spread across 4 servers online right now, I know how much bandwith it'd use :D |
| 01:59.15 | Dagmar | I can end this. |
| 01:59.23 | Dagmar | http://i.imgur.com/y6Aqv.jpg <-- this carpet is real. |
| 01:59.27 | Adys | Azelphur: your bandwidth is irrelevant |
| 01:59.30 | Azelphur | Dagmar: NO WAY |
| 01:59.34 | Dagmar | Someone did that, and the U.N. doesn't even care. |
| 01:59.34 | Adys | you need to consider player bandwidth too |
| 01:59.40 | Phelps | I'm a server admin for just about every type of game server you can think of. |
| 02:00.17 | Torhal | Fire Walk With Me in Wintergrasp? Huh? |
| 02:00.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:00.42 | Dagmar | Torhal: Yeah before they fixed it, honestly by the time everyone got into the base, I just stood there in awe |
| 02:01.05 | Adys | and Azelphur just to be clear |
| 02:01.09 | Adys | http://www.hogit.org/wp-images/screens/011106_185301.jpg <- MMO |
| 02:01.14 | Adys | http://www.straferight.com/forums/attachments/shooters/14837d1209012156-official-post-your-team-fortress-2-screenshot-score-thread-cp_dustbowl0007.jpg <- Not a MMO |
| 02:01.21 | Azelphur | didn't half the servers fall over when that happened? :D |
| 02:01.22 | Dagmar | A gnome standing face to face with a belf... idle animation kicks in. Looks like they're having a chat. A tiger appears in the middle of the scene, runs past them in slow motion, and equally mysteriously disappers |
| 02:01.28 | Azelphur | I'm sure I remember epic crashery |
| 02:01.31 | Dagmar | The gnome stops a moment, waves his hands, something unseen explodes. |
| 02:01.36 | Dagmar | BATTLETANK. |
| 02:01.40 | Torhal | lol |
| 02:01.43 | Adys | Azelphur: is this a discussion about the degree to which you're wrong? |
| 02:01.48 | Dagmar | Very seriously David Lynch territory |
| 02:01.49 | Azelphur | Adys: but yea I can see your point, you want everyone together :) |
| 02:02.54 | Adys | http://www.wowdad.co.uk/wp-content/screenshot_011507_230538.jpeg <- MMO |
| 02:03.26 | Azelphur | http://media.smashingmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/images/brand-ux/cb.jpg <- cheeseburger |
| 02:03.32 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 02:03.35 | Azelphur | one of which I'm going to go cook because I'm hungry, brb :D |
| 02:03.40 | Phelps | well |
| 02:04.16 | Phelps | from the ground up, mmo servers are built to handle thousands of simultaneous connections |
| 02:04.29 | Gnarfoz | also Dagmar, please stop confusing fibers with spaghetti. as we could all just witness, they're not good for you |
| 02:04.48 | Phelps | i doubt a fps server even has the proper networking core to handle 1000 connects, much less processes everything |
| 02:04.55 | Adys | yep |
| 02:05.04 | Adys | and its not even just that |
| 02:05.06 | Adys | its the entire design |
| 02:05.10 | Phelps | yeah |
| 02:05.17 | Phelps | like Apache and Lighttpd/Nginx |
| 02:05.23 | Phelps | Apache CANT handle 1000+ connections |
| 02:05.33 | Dagmar | Oh yes it can. |
| 02:05.36 | Gnarfoz | I do wonder how many players in one area Planteside could/can handle |
| 02:05.39 | Phelps | it cant |
| 02:05.46 | Phelps | 15 instances of Apache can |
| 02:05.49 | Dagmar | Dude I am running nine servers that have more than that going on. |
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| 02:06.06 | Gnarfoz | prefork is not the only MPM ^^ |
| 02:06.07 | Phelps | how many Apache threads and workers you got going per server ? |
| 02:06.10 | Dagmar | The *real* horror is that PHP is also involved. |
| 02:06.31 | Dagmar | Spawning 60 children. |
| 02:06.45 | Phelps | so it takes 60 threads to handle 1000+ connects |
| 02:06.48 | Phelps | ouch. |
| 02:06.54 | Dagmar | One process could handle 1000 connections by itself, but it would just be select matrix hell |
| 02:07.09 | Dagmar | No, the server handles way more than 1,000 connections at once. |
| 02:07.26 | Dagmar | It tends to explode around 9000. Workin' on that |
| 02:07.38 | Phelps | Lighttpd/Nginx can handle 1000+ simultaneous connections |
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| 02:07.43 | Dagmar | I suspect that's something we'll have to change in the kernel's config |
| 02:08.05 | Phelps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C10k_problem |
| 02:08.08 | Adys | Dagmar: alternate possibility: apache is trolling you up for a 9000 joke |
| 02:08.16 | Dagmar | Adys: I'd considered that actually |
| 02:08.17 | Phelps | no |
| 02:08.24 | Phelps | that explains the 9k |
| 02:08.35 | Dagmar | We have a department that likes to send out an HTML email to about 22,000 people at once. |
| 02:08.40 | Phelps | Apache fails the c10k test |
| 02:08.48 | Dagmar | Most of these people use Outlook. |
| 02:09.08 | Dagmar | That's practically a mechanized self-DDoS over fiber backbones. |
| 02:09.20 | Dagmar | This is why I'm *very* sure it can do 1,000 connections on one box. |
| 02:09.45 | Phelps | network bandwidth really has no play in it |
| 02:09.46 | Dagmar | It's the OMG000,000 image grabs in the space of three minutes that murders them all |
| 02:10.29 | Dagmar | Roughly six thousand of those people's machines start grabbing the images for the HTML preview pane all nice and automatic-like in the first five minutes |
| 02:10.41 | Phelps | thats what CDNs are for |
| 02:10.47 | Phelps | they be cheap too |
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| 02:11.00 | Dagmar | This is on *one* campus, but for that we *are* already talking to three vendors. |
| 02:11.18 | Dagmar | The load that email creates is just insane |
| 02:11.56 | Phelps | but yeah |
| 02:12.15 | Phelps | Lighttpd/Nginx should be used in high load environments |
| 02:12.22 | Phelps | unless you have a damn good reason to use Apache |
| 02:12.23 | Dagmar | Last time it happened the system load in three-second intervals went from 8, to 14, to *OOM DWARF ON THE RAMPAGE* |
| 02:12.47 | Dagmar | Phelps: The kernel is geeking on this. |
| 02:13.06 | Phelps | is it on a VPS ? |
| 02:13.08 | Dagmar | I've gotta find the sysctls to make it handle unpleasant amounts of connection queueing as far as I know |
| 02:13.35 | Dagmar | Until then the only thing keeping _these actual machines_ from bedlam is some load-balancers |
| 02:14.06 | Gnarfoz | nginx is one ;> |
| 02:14.08 | Gnarfoz | (or can be one) |
| 02:14.19 | Dagmar | We're using hardware solutions for hat |
| 02:14.20 | Gnarfoz | also, LVS, haproxy |
| 02:14.22 | Dagmar | s/hat/that/ |
| 02:14.35 | Gnarfoz | your "hardware solutions" are just that software in a black box, congrats |
| 02:14.48 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* |
| 02:14.49 | Dagmar | Everyone's "hardwares solutions" are that. |
| 02:14.53 | Adys | Dagmar: i do have to ask |
| 02:14.57 | Adys | why the hell are you using apache? |
| 02:15.06 | Dagmar | Adys: because it bloody well works |
| 02:15.18 | Phelps | would work a lot better if you used Nginx |
| 02:15.20 | Gnarfoz | you're describing how it bloody well dies while serving static files |
| 02:15.21 | Phelps | or Lighttpd |
| 02:15.21 | Adys | and it would work better and cheaper with nginx |
| 02:15.32 | Dagmar | ...and there's many, many virtuals on there with it |
| 02:15.33 | Adys | and what Gnarfoz said |
| 02:15.36 | Phelps | two nginx servers could handle that |
| 02:15.42 | Adys | i mean |
| 02:15.53 | Adys | i would get the "it would bring insane costs to switch" |
| 02:16.00 | Dagmar | How many nginx servers would it take to answer the phones and explain to people why their website no longer works |
| 02:16.01 | starlon | unleashes a carrier of 100 angry cats. |
| 02:16.02 | Adys | but it doesnt seem to be the case |
| 02:16.08 | Phelps | most virtuals are the same, over and over, a bash script could convert it |
| 02:16.33 | Gnarfoz | one email results in many many vhosts being accessed? that doesn't sound right |
| 02:16.34 | starlon | starts pointing a red lazer at everyone. |
| 02:16.46 | Gnarfoz | (as short-line syndrome suggests, we're probably not getting the full picture) |
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| 02:16.55 | Dagmar | Very. |
| 02:17.15 | Phelps | setup a static cdn inside the network |
| 02:17.19 | Phelps | use Nginx |
| 02:17.24 | Gnarfoz | starlon: Light Emission by Ztimulated Emission of Radiation? ^^ |
| 02:17.25 | Phelps | one server would solve the load issues |
| 02:17.33 | Dagmar | Yeah that would make a lot of sense for a twice a week burst |
| 02:17.45 | starlon | o.O |
| 02:17.46 | Phelps | sure |
| 02:17.59 | Dagmar | Cheaper to just throw a small bag of money at Akamai |
| 02:18.03 | Torhal | hacks starlon's optics. |
| 02:18.03 | Gnarfoz | also if these bloody brits are taking their demolishers and siege engines around the left side of our base ONE MORE DAMN TIME >_< |
| 02:18.25 | Phelps | im sure one of your unneeded apache servers could be used |
| 02:18.28 | starlon | resorts to flames. |
| 02:19.00 | Gnarfoz | well, probably a major undertaking, but static content serving could be moved off apache... probalby a lot of work ;) |
| 02:19.45 | Phelps | shouldn't be in a professional environment |
| 02:20.42 | Phelps | you wanna know whats the craziest shit ever though |
| 02:20.46 | Phelps | Minecraft servers |
| 02:20.55 | Phelps | no joke, I manage some minecraft servers with 48GB of ram |
| 02:20.57 | Gnarfoz | finnaly [Mowed Down] :D |
| 02:21.09 | Phelps | dual i7's |
| 02:21.16 | Gnarfoz | I hear those are awesomely shittily coded. |
| 02:21.17 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 02:21.21 | Phelps | omg |
| 02:21.23 | Phelps | no idea |
| 02:21.29 | Phelps | Bukkit is sooooooo ram hungry |
| 02:21.36 | Dagmar | Well, they definitely opt for "It works for the moment" on a lot of fronts. |
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| 02:21.50 | Dagmar | Pretty much none of it was designed with scaling to large numbers in mind. |
| 02:22.14 | Phelps | a minecraft server with more than 100 players |
| 02:22.19 | Phelps | will eat, easy, 32GB of ram |
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| 02:22.27 | Phelps | its just stupid |
| 02:22.44 | Phelps | makes me wanan cry seeing such amazing servers being used for something so stupid |
| 02:23.39 | Gnarfoz | someone needs a rewrite :P |
| 02:24.31 | Dagmar | Oh yeah it could stand to be written in something meant to handle a lot of simultaneous stuff at once, but... |
| 02:24.44 | Dagmar | There's still the matter of it being a big-ass voxel array |
| 02:36.36 | Phelps | Dagmar: nah |
| 02:36.49 | Phelps | people have handled how the world is represented in data |
| 02:36.58 | Phelps | there are lots of open source projects |
| 02:37.10 | Phelps | for high efficiency servers |
| 02:37.19 | Dagmar | And yet... no one seems to be running one |
| 02:37.22 | Gnarfoz | high-efficiency minecraft servers? |
| 02:37.23 | Phelps | they just lack support for current features |
| 02:37.27 | Phelps | suddencraft.com |
| 02:37.33 | Phelps | ^ my project |
| 02:37.47 | Adys | Phelps: how the fuck does this channel turn to minecraft with Dagmar while Im talking to Dagmar about minecraft? |
| 02:37.52 | Phelps | closed source though, also abandoned for now |
| 02:38.04 | Adys | or did we all just think "Man, minecraft efficiency sucks" at the same time? |
| 02:38.16 | Dagmar | Cuz about six million people bought Minecraft |
| 02:39.07 | Phelps | but yeah, my server platform supports Lua plugins, and could run 25 players on about 60mb of ram |
| 02:39.22 | Phelps | though, cant keep up with Mojang |
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| 02:41.52 | Arrowmaster | this should be interesting, flashing my nexus s right now with cyanogen and i have no clue how much of the backups i made are going to work |
| 02:42.37 | Arrowmaster | since the good backup apps only work after you have already rooted the phone, which you cant do without completely wiping it |
| 02:47.06 | Thunder_Child | but that doesnt wipe the storage |
| 02:48.23 | Kraps | three statisticians are hunting. They spot a deer. The first statistician takes aim, but fires wide left. The second statistician sees what happened to the first, tries to correct, but fires wide right. The third statistician shouts "We got him!" |
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| 03:05.12 | Arrowmaster | weeee! copying 3000+ files back onto my phone |
| 03:05.35 | Seerah | :D |
| 03:07.16 | starlon | omg illegal downloads!!! |
| 03:07.24 | starlon | o.O |
| 03:07.58 | Arrowmaster | all those files are actually from backing up my data for https://market.android.com/details?id=net.leetsoft.mangoreader |
| 03:08.14 | starlon | :) |
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| 03:08.21 | Arrowmaster | which is umm 'questionable' |
| 03:09.13 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: everytime i wipe my phone all of my apps reinstall themselves |
| 03:09.16 | starlon | hehe |
| 03:11.32 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: you don't wipe it the right way then |
| 03:12.57 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: since i mod my phone rather often, i dont think that to be the case |
| 03:13.07 | Gnarfoz | you might just be doing it right ;) |
| 03:13.49 | kullervo | what I'm saying is that wiping something should ensure there will be nothing on it |
| 03:14.18 | Arrowmaster | everything was gone on mine when i just went from stock to cyanogen |
| 03:14.28 | Thunder_Child | wiping the onboard mem vs wiping the micro card is different |
| 03:14.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a card, its all onboard |
| 03:14.41 | Thunder_Child | which is where the backups are supposed to be stored |
| 03:14.51 | Thunder_Child | ah, thats why the backups dont work properly |
| 03:14.58 | Arrowmaster | nexus s, and unlocking the bootloader on that wipes everything |
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| 03:43.44 | Kraps | http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/184/e/2/Orgrimmar__Horde_Territory_by_Osp.jpg |
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| 04:37.16 | Cide | lua> 30^3 |
| 04:37.16 | lua_bot | Cide: 27000 |
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| 04:44.14 | Cide | 255^3 |
| 04:44.16 | Cide | lua> 255^3 |
| 04:44.16 | lua_bot | Cide: 16581375 |
| 04:49.20 | Fisker | i just sneezed Thunder_Child |
| 04:49.45 | karl_w_w | defenestrates Fisker |
| 04:50.00 | Thunder_Child | why Fisker? |
| 04:50.03 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 04:50.25 | Fisker | i don't know Thunder_Child |
| 04:54.56 | karl_w_w | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1316146275350.jpg |
| 04:57.52 | mckenziemc | cues Fisker |
| 04:58.08 | karl_w_w | chalks mckenziemc |
| 04:59.46 | starlon | pockets the cash. |
| 05:00.02 | mckenziemc | dies |
| 05:11.47 | karl_w_w | sorry mckenziemc |
| 05:11.57 | karl_w_w | I didn't know chalk was fatal to your kind |
| 05:15.48 | Fisker | i'm dying over here |
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| 05:23.39 | Torhal | Fisker: Do it quieter. |
| 05:23.48 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 05:23.52 | Fisker | no Torhal |
| 05:23.57 | Fisker | i need you to know that i'm dying |
| 05:24.23 | Torhal | You need to directly and proportionately raise the SNR ratio in the channel? Yes, I already knew that. |
| 05:24.23 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:25.01 | Cide | saturday night rave?! |
| 05:25.12 | Torhal | Signal-to-noise. |
| 05:25.42 | Torhal | Though I suppose I phrased that a bit backward. |
| 05:31.13 | kd3 | heh; this is pretty neat. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/16/chumby_nettv_hack/ |
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| 05:36.16 | Torhal | kd3: I'm guessing he gets it to do that because, during development, he actually DID decrypt it and devised a method based off of that for not doing so. |
| 05:53.49 | Fisker | portal is free again for people who still don't have it |
| 05:53.50 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/400/ |
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| 06:00.51 | Mr_Rabies | well there goes a minor TF2 item barganing chip |
| 06:00.54 | Mr_Rabies | daang :< |
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| 06:59.20 | starlon | RIP WoW http://i.imgur.com/q9hf2.png |
| 07:08.03 | Cide | lua> 40^3 |
| 07:08.03 | lua_bot | Cide: 64000 |
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| 07:33.52 | zenzio | http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/181/181568/18156806/jpg/active/729x.jpg - this is not a good situation... |
| 07:34.23 | Thunder_Child | it's always good for someone |
| 07:34.47 | Thunder_Child | in this case it's whoever repairs vessels such as that |
| 07:35.49 | zenzio | that is true |
| 07:36.05 | zenzio | but I doubt it'd be a good situation for the port at least |
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| 07:37.56 | Cide | are you sure it's not being set to sea? |
| 07:38.20 | Thunder_Child | thats not usually how they are put to sea |
| 07:38.30 | Cide | hard to tell from the photo but |
| 07:38.35 | Cide | they usually have a ramp they slide down |
| 07:38.38 | zenzio | the problem started with a fire in the engine room, I'm not sure it can move on its own anymore. It's listing at about 20 degrees, very close to the tipping point |
| 07:39.00 | Cide | but obviously I don't know the newspaper article it originates from |
| 07:39.10 | Thunder_Child | rught, but because of the shape of the boat, it's usually prow to aft |
| 07:39.13 | Thunder_Child | right* |
| 07:39.29 | zenzio | Cide: oh, I misread you. No, this ship has been in regular traffic for years, it's in trouble after an accident and close to capsizing |
| 07:39.41 | Cide | figured as much when I realized it was from a newspaper |
| 07:42.49 | zenzio | http://www.vgtv.no/#!id=43874 - apparently after it was evacuated and arrived the the port, they determined it's taking in water through two or three holes, and they're (obviously) not able to pump it out fast enough |
| 07:44.33 | Cide | win |
| 07:44.36 | Cide | kinda |
| 07:52.00 | Cide | lua> 30^3*4/1024 |
| 07:52.01 | lua_bot | Cide: 105.46875 |
| 07:52.55 | Cide | lua> 30^3 |
| 07:52.55 | lua_bot | Cide: 27000 |
| 07:53.19 | Cide | lua> 29+29*30+29*30^2 |
| 07:53.19 | lua_bot | Cide: 26999 |
| 07:57.56 | starlon | lua> burp |
| 07:57.56 | lua_bot | starlon: nil |
| 08:08.51 | starlon | doesn't want to go to sleep. :( |
| 08:10.21 | Thunder_Child | then dont |
| 08:11.14 | starlon | but I've run out of steam in my adventures stalking people |
| 08:11.47 | Thunder_Child | play a game? |
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| 08:12.12 | starlon | I'm no gamer. |
| 08:12.30 | Thunder_Child | read? |
| 08:12.34 | Thunder_Child | learn something new |
| 08:12.39 | starlon | I just found out I may default on my student loans, so I'm just aat a standstill right now. |
| 08:12.50 | Thunder_Child | fine a job? |
| 08:12.56 | Thunder_Child | find* |
| 08:14.06 | starlon | I'll call today sometime and find out if any options are available. The website makes no sense. And they indicated that they haven't been able to send me my emails... so yeah. |
| 08:14.11 | starlon | They fail at the internet. |
| 08:14.42 | Xebren | anyone know of a way to determine the number of enemies that a player is in combat with? or more specifically how many are in range? or is that outside whats possible |
| 08:15.07 | Thunder_Child | my guess is combat log parsing |
| 08:15.38 | jnwhiteh | its actually not possible |
| 08:15.44 | jnwhiteh | in the general case |
| 08:15.46 | Xebren | okay, i kind of figured as much |
| 08:15.58 | jnwhiteh | you can find out how many unique enemies are damaging or being damaged by members of your party |
| 08:16.09 | jnwhiteh | same with how many are being targeted by your party |
| 08:16.10 | jnwhiteh | btu that's about it |
| 08:16.16 | Xebren | gotcha |
| 08:17.07 | Xebren | is there something that could be done with counting name plates maybe? i dont have a deep understanding of how the name plates code works |
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| 08:18.55 | mikma | xebren: yes, read the wow programming book =) |
| 08:20.18 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:20.21 | jnwhiteh | not really |
| 08:20.28 | jnwhiteh | nameplates are one of the hardest things in the game |
| 08:21.26 | Xebren | okay. thanks for the info :) |
| 08:22.05 | mikma | jnwhiteh: but after the basics itsx easy to understand the code :P noob. |
| 08:22.14 | jnwhiteh | mikma: huh? |
| 08:22.27 | mikma | jnwhiteh: thats right, noob. |
| 08:23.06 | mikma | oh, and the drillingmachine i was operating broke down again, lol. need to go and get replacementparts |
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| 08:39.50 | Thunder_Child | jnwhiteh: there is not notification when you pul aggro? |
| 08:39.53 | Thunder_Child | pull* |
| 08:40.01 | Thunder_Child | is no* |
| 08:40.03 | jnwhiteh | aggro is boolean |
| 08:40.07 | Thunder_Child | i think i need to go to bed |
| 08:40.08 | jnwhiteh | you are either in combat, or not |
| 08:40.12 | jnwhiteh | that's all you get |
| 08:40.31 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 08:41.14 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/5Uvqr |
| 08:41.52 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 08:42.07 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: people dont know seaweed when they see it? |
| 08:42.28 | karl_w_w | apparently not |
| 08:42.30 | Thunder_Child | though i wonder where that is with what looks to be an offshore mining platform |
| 08:46.14 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/gallery/zhTb6 one of the few ones where the comments are better than the picture |
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| 10:02.30 | starlon | twitches. |
| 10:02.55 | Thunder_Child | still bored? |
| 10:03.13 | starlon | just finished browsing Reddit |
| 10:03.29 | starlon | didn't find a single conspiracy :( |
| 10:03.32 | Thunder_Child | still sane? |
| 10:03.40 | starlon | maybe |
| 10:04.04 | starlon | Except the one about the HPV virus. That had potential. |
| 10:04.13 | starlon | s/virus/vaccine/ |
| 10:07.59 | starlon | Oh and entirely too much noise about Windows 8. |
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| 10:28.31 | Phelps | really, i just cant get into reddit |
| 10:28.39 | Phelps | imgur i can browse |
| 10:28.46 | Phelps | but reddit just doesn't do it for me |
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| 11:35.52 | Industrial | fucking OSX |
| 11:36.03 | Industrial | why are all your BASIC commandline programs different? |
| 11:36.15 | Industrial | ls --color=auto doesnt work, and now I have a problem with stat -_- |
| 11:38.01 | foxlit | probably not THEIR basic command line programs? |
| 11:39.45 | haste | Phelps: I just subscribe to the top images thingy on imgur, and ignore reddit :P |
| 11:40.00 | haste | Then I read some of the things people post on IRC from reddit |
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| 11:42.18 | Industrial | foxlit: its easier to do things your way then to agree on how with a group |
| 11:42.35 | Maldivia | Industrial: ls -G |
| 11:42.39 | foxlit | Industrial: in my opinion, you're barking up the wrong tree |
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| 11:43.02 | foxlit | It's BSD's ls, not GNU's ls. |
| 11:43.11 | Industrial | It's just venting anyway |
| 11:43.44 | Industrial | Maldivia: yea but this means I need to write all my configs to work on linux OR osx :\ |
| 11:43.51 | Industrial | s/all/some/ |
| 11:44.08 | foxlit | s/osx/bsd :) |
| 11:44.10 | Maldivia | Industrial: just set the envvars :P |
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| 12:37.56 | Fisker | hey haste |
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| 12:45.31 | Kalroth | Adys: did you see this yet: https://github.com/tombell/trollscript |
| 12:45.55 | Kalroth | hello world in trollscript: Trooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolollooooolooloolooloolooloolooooolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloooooloolooloooooloooloolooloololllllooooloololoooooololooolooloolooloolooloololoolooolooloololooooooloololooooloololooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloolooloololooooolooolooloololooollollollollollolllooollollollollollollollollloooooololooooolooll. |
| 12:46.11 | Kalroth | oops, a little spammy, didnt think it was that long |
| 12:46.15 | Adys | boring |
| 12:46.23 | Kalroth | Adys: dont troll! |
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| 12:54.11 | Lopeppeppy | A hotel. In the center of DC. Doesn't have wireless internet access. This conference is going to freakin' KILL me. |
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| 13:03.52 | Industrial | what conference |
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| 13:10.31 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:16.29 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom nom. |
| 13:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | Industrial, I'm going to a work conference to be edu-m-cated about a certain software product we use. |
| 13:17.02 | Industrial | kay |
| 13:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | It will be somewhat boring at times, and I *could* have been catching up with my regular work email in that time. If it didn't require a WIRED computer. |
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| 13:27.12 | foxlit | they invented 3g for a reason :) |
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| 13:34.59 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/16/portal-free/ |
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| 13:38.52 | Wobin | Kraps: whoever -doesn't- already have Portal doesn't deserve it anyway =P |
| 13:39.10 | Kraps | :) |
| 13:39.25 | Kraps | i got it that last time it was free |
| 13:39.26 | Elkano | yeah, used to be free at least once before |
| 13:39.48 | Kraps | check out the video too |
| 13:40.33 | Phelps | http://goo.gl/CGnVO |
| 13:40.37 | Phelps | http://mycharitywater.org/ |
| 13:41.21 | Wobin | portal 1 really was a well designed game in terms of teaching the mechanics |
| 13:46.04 | Wobin | I'm impressed at the charity water page |
| 13:46.13 | Wobin | because it degrades gracefully without javascript |
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| 13:52.00 | Arrowmaster | so one of my highschool friends little brother just got a job at disney animation studios |
| 13:53.20 | foxlit | eep |
| 13:53.26 | foxlit | can't take a screenshot while editbox has focus |
| 13:54.15 | Cide | Shirik: |
| 13:54.18 | Cide | Shirik: Shirik Shirik |
| 13:54.25 | Shirik | wat |
| 13:54.28 | Cide | hi |
| 13:54.46 | Shirik | fix this Cide http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c18be0c7984534a41f4a1f44e2251a09.png |
| 13:54.47 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/tip.png << overkill? |
| 13:55.06 | Shirik | that's an order book. It's not supposed to jump that much between offers. |
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| 14:24.27 | Kraps | raven, you scary http://www.wimp.com/ravenknows/ |
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| 14:42.11 | Shirik | Google Finance needs to handle this name a little better: http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:JPM-B |
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| 14:51.21 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 14:51.23 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 14:51.26 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:52.00 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 14:52.13 | Fisker | beta yet? |
| 14:53.38 | haste | it handles it just fine here Shirik *trollface* |
| 15:03.03 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 15:03.07 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 15:03.07 | Fisker | umad? |
| 15:03.08 | haste | no |
| 15:03.13 | Fisker | imad? |
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| 15:03.16 | haste | y |
| 15:03.20 | Fisker | oh |
| 15:03.21 | haste | INTERNET MAD! |
| 15:03.49 | Fisker | i had a cup of democracy yesterday haste |
| 15:03.50 | Fisker | and you? |
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| 15:03.55 | haste | last week |
| 15:04.17 | Fisker | what did you do last week? |
| 15:04.29 | haste | you will never know |
| 15:05.18 | Fisker | i heard Breivik was seen with a gun in his hand while fleeing through oslo |
| 15:05.21 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 15:05.49 | haste | he was caught on cam |
| 15:05.53 | haste | that was about it :P |
| 15:06.44 | Fisker | people were monitoring teh cams |
| 15:07.04 | haste | doesn't mean they noticed it :P |
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| 15:07.42 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:08.05 | Fisker | i'm pretty sure package delivery guys usually come in tactical police gear as well |
| 15:08.27 | haste | they do |
| 15:12.31 | Kraps | only to your address Fisker |
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| 15:12.49 | Fisker | why would they wear that to my house? |
| 15:12.53 | Fisker | it's not like it keeps out the smell |
| 15:13.50 | Fisker | jump haste |
| 15:14.04 | haste | no |
| 15:14.27 | Fisker | jump |
| 15:16.50 | Stanzilla | no beta yet |
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| 15:22.28 | starlon | does the Monster Mash. |
| 15:27.38 | Torhal|work | People who upload Terraria maps to CurseForge frighten me. |
| 15:27.51 | Torhal|work | This is one of the better map descriptions: "An awesome map that im gonna make because its my first time playing." |
| 15:29.38 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: "this is my map!! its FUN!!" |
| 15:29.43 | Stanzilla | was one of the best I think |
| 15:29.57 | Torhal|work | Yes, Stanzilla - you know what I'm talking about. |
| 15:30.20 | Torhal|work | I just ignore them. I don't play the game, have never played the game, and someone else always approves them anyway. |
| 15:30.42 | Torhal|work | Or denies them - not sure which. |
| 15:30.43 | Torhal|work | :D |
| 15:31.15 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I have an USB microphone (webcam mic) that's completely lagging out (robot voice and all); it worked fine recently, I don't remember how I solved it last time but it was definitely on pulseaudio's side. any idea? |
| 15:31.33 | Arrowmaster | i dont use usb audio devices or pulse |
| 15:32.18 | Stanzilla | Torhal|work: i think ackis just closes his eyes and clicks |
| 15:32.25 | Torhal|work | :/ |
| 15:32.49 | Torhal|work | Ideally we'd have a separate site for those things. |
| 15:33.14 | Arrowmaster | this is my map, there are many like it but this one is mine |
| 15:33.19 | Torhal|work | Hah |
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| 15:46.21 | Wobin | patpats Dagmar |
| 15:46.28 | Wobin | Keyboard 101 =P |
| 15:46.34 | Dagmar | \no shit |
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| 15:50.17 | Wobin | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2011/09/nvidialineup.jpg |
| 15:50.21 | Wobin | looks like it's time to upgrade |
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| 15:51.04 | Wobin | wow, only, $830 for the gtx590 |
| 15:51.07 | Wobin | >< |
| 15:53.04 | Wobin | although I'd probably have to upgrade my MB while I'm at it |
| 15:53.20 | Mr_Rabies | ugh i need so many upgrades and i am jobless :< |
| 15:53.37 | Mr_Rabies | i've got a decent amount saved up but i don't want to expedite that running low anytime soon |
| 15:55.21 | Wobin | I'll probably be better off buying a new tower anyway |
| 15:55.25 | Wobin | this one is getting a little old |
| 15:55.51 | Wobin | god knows what I'll do with the old one though |
| 15:56.06 | Wobin | it's too noisy to use an a server |
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| 16:00.01 | Arrowmaster | i need to upgrade my storage, my 4.5GiB raid is almost full |
| 16:00.17 | Wobin | http://sopoforia.tumblr.com/post/10272863945/i-just-won-a-10kg-block-of-cadbury-chocolate |
| 16:00.18 | Wobin | =O |
| 16:00.19 | Arrowmaster | TiB |
| 16:00.20 | cog|work | 4.5GiB? |
| 16:00.22 | cog|work | ok |
| 16:01.03 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies: upgrades can definitely wait til you get a steady job |
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| 16:01.26 | cog|work | station |
| 16:01.39 | Lunessa | mumble⦠station ⦠or something |
| 16:02.21 | cog|work | i like your chat client. It makes correct elipses⦠|
| 16:02.41 | Shirik | this is hilarious, how much influence CNBC has over the market |
| 16:02.51 | Lunessa | I'm using Cooloquy on Mac OS X 10.7 |
| 16:02.57 | Shirik | I was watching and they said a very negative report about TYC (counteracting earlier news) - instantly http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ATYC |
| 16:03.48 | Lunessa | Shirik: Too many "traders" sitting at home watching CNBC and thinking that "news" is going to help them make a killing in the market. |
| 16:04.14 | Shirik | I don't really pay attention to CNBC it's just easier to see numbers that way |
| 16:04.22 | Shirik | but it was hilarious to watch |
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| 16:05.08 | Lunessa | Investing based on rumor and news stories is a good way to go broke. Doing research and being careful is a slightly less risky prospect. :) |
| 16:06.01 | BlackNet | investing in general in the past 4-5 years has been a good way to go broke :) |
| 16:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | Wobin: that'll probably be a while, i actually quit a job because i wasn't getting paid enough and was working for a friend, and i'm going back to school full-time now :p |
| 16:06.26 | Shirik | I look at balance sheets and right now I refuse to pick up any companies that are showing a significant amount of debt (among other things, of course, but that's a big one) |
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| 16:07.04 | Mr_Rabies | tbh the most important upgrades i can get are a couple 2TB drives, but western digital seriously dropped the ball this generation |
| 16:07.06 | Shirik | My favorite pick (and my largest position) lately is Intel, and I'm being rewarded handsomely for that |
| 16:09.39 | Lunessa | Shirik: It's always good to invest in things you can figure out too. Investing in sectors which confuse you or don't make any sense to you mean you have to rely on someone else to tell you when it's a good time to put more in or take it all out. |
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| 16:31.29 | Lunessa | Things that still astound me: A person who has been using computers daily for the last 10 years still needs me to explain how to save a file. |
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| 16:34.29 | Dagmar | They're not handicapped... they're just retarded. |
| 16:34.30 | durcyn | hah, belkin posted a 50% off code for their web store and effectively ddos'd themselves offline |
| 16:34.48 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
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| 16:37.15 | Adys | [17:00:14] <Wobin> http://sopoforia.tumblr.com/post/10272863945/i-just-won-a-10kg-block-of-cadbury-chocolate |
| 16:37.23 | Adys | at first i didnt see what was so special about it |
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| 16:40.43 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37878 |
| 16:40.47 | foxlit | weirdest thread ever |
| 16:41.40 | Mr_Rabies | how did this get here i am not good with computer |
| 16:41.46 | Mr_Rabies | the thread |
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| 16:41.51 | Lunessa | what is this i don't even' |
| 16:42.59 | Lopeppeppy | Ple-as. H-ep. |
| 16:43.11 | Lopeppeppy | H-el-p. Ple-as. |
| 16:43.18 | kaiden | now now leeloo |
| 16:43.23 | Kraps | clearly, pants |
| 16:43.45 | Lopeppeppy | Pants are for dogs. |
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| 16:44.21 | Lunessa | Leeloo should not have to wear pants if she doesn't want to. I'm just sayin' |
| 16:45.06 | Arrowmaster | leeloo dallas multipass |
| 16:47.30 | Lopeppeppy | I like the way that Lunessa Dallas thinks. |
| 16:47.42 | Torhal|work | o.O |
| 16:48.17 | Lunessa | I mean, come on. You've seen the things she likes. Pants really isn't on that list. And ⦠Well, bless her for that. |
| 16:48.31 | Kraps | who? |
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| 16:51.59 | Kraps | https://twitter.com/#!/feral_pigeon |
| 16:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | Leeloo Dallas doesn't like to wear pants. She wears cargo straps, mostly. |
| 16:54.09 | Lunessa | rarw |
| 16:54.12 | Lunessa | rawr |
| 16:56.08 | Kraps | http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/chatroulette-trolling-i-bet-they-will.jpg |
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| 17:10.06 | foxlit | http://www.xkcd.com/blue_eyes.html |
| 17:10.09 | foxlit | when did that get there? |
| 17:10.22 | Wobin | http://www.notdoppler.com/burritobison.php |
| 17:10.43 | Wobin | just in case you were bored |
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| 17:11.45 | Arrowmaster | well thats embarassing, i just took way more damage from a simple midboss in darksiders than i should have |
| 17:12.20 | foxlit | quick, everyone, shun hum for taking more damage in darksiders than he should have! shun! |
| 17:12.21 | foxlit | :P |
| 17:12.41 | Torhal|work | Shouldn't we crucify instead? |
| 17:13.30 | Arrowmaster | well i did the previous midboss thats exactly the same without getting hit, this one i was down to 20% |
| 17:13.42 | Arrowmaster | i just really hate this level |
| 17:13.45 | Arrowmaster | its annoying |
| 17:17.00 | Kraps | The Lion King is opening this weekend in 3D |
| 17:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | What, you can watch his father die in 3D? This is good for kids? |
| 17:17.48 | Wobin | foxlit: the solution to that puzzle is diabolical |
| 17:18.04 | Wobin | in that there would be that many perfect logicians =P |
| 17:18.14 | foxlit | Wobin: I'm biased in the sense I know a different framing |
| 17:19.43 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: imagine the stampede running straight at you!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:20.16 | Kraps | oneone |
| 17:20.17 | Wobin | Kraps: You should watch the musical |
| 17:20.20 | Lopeppeppy | Boring! Imagine piranha eating you! |
| 17:20.22 | Wobin | it had an awesome stampede |
| 17:20.42 | Wobin | and was much better 3d than whatever will happen, imo |
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| 17:22.53 | foxlit | just spent an entire week sick |
| 17:23.06 | Torhal|work | Taking lessons from Fisker? |
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| 17:33.05 | Wobin | foxlit: hm |
| 17:33.18 | Wobin | thinking about the problem and the offered solution |
| 17:33.27 | Wobin | what happens if one person has red eyes? |
| 17:33.42 | foxlit | nothing |
| 17:33.53 | Wobin | why wouldn't they leave with the others? |
| 17:34.00 | foxlit | only the color mentioned by the oracle is important |
| 17:34.18 | Arrowmaster | i still dont get it after reading the solution |
| 17:34.34 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: it's a rather trivial induction proof |
| 17:34.42 | foxlit | suppose there was only one person matching the descrition |
| 17:34.55 | foxlit | he'd realize that nobody else matches, and therefore leave. |
| 17:35.20 | Arrowmaster | i get that part but i dont get how you can go from theory 2 to theroy 99 |
| 17:35.28 | Wobin | and if he has red eyes? |
| 17:35.46 | foxlit | Wobin: someone must have blue eyes. |
| 17:35.50 | foxlit | or the oracle lied. |
| 17:35.57 | Wobin | certainly, he sees many people with blue eyes |
| 17:36.10 | Wobin | 100 of them |
| 17:36.20 | Wobin | but he doesn't know if he also has blue eyes |
| 17:36.39 | foxlit | "he"? |
| 17:36.44 | Wobin | or she |
| 17:36.50 | Wobin | I refuse to use hir |
| 17:37.01 | foxlit | I'd rather you used a proper name :) |
| 17:37.13 | Wobin | Jean |
| 17:37.25 | Wobin | they're transgender |
| 17:37.29 | foxlit | ~Wobin++ |
| 17:37.55 | foxlit | I'm still not sure what you're thinking, though. |
| 17:38.08 | foxlit | Does a problem arise if the oracle's eyes are of a particular color? |
| 17:38.35 | Wobin | hm, actually on more thought, it matters not |
| 17:38.37 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: do you get how you can go from theory 1 to theory 2, though? :) |
| 17:38.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 17:38.53 | Wobin | I was trying to extend to the fact that on the 101st day all the brown eyed people could leave |
| 17:39.08 | Wobin | but only if they knew there was only two (not including the oracle) eye colours |
| 17:39.39 | Arrowmaster | but but 2 to 3 doesnt make sense to me because theory 1 is invalidated |
| 17:39.44 | foxlit | That doesn't work. |
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| 17:40.19 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: they know theorum 1 won't be valid, cause they can see more than one person with blue eyes |
| 17:40.20 | foxlit | Or, okay, it would work under that assertion :) |
| 17:40.44 | foxlit | So the thinking goes: "I see two people with blue eyes" |
| 17:40.52 | foxlit | "If those two are the only two, they'll leave on day 2" |
| 17:41.13 | foxlit | "If they don't leave, it must be because they also see two people with blue eyes." |
| 17:41.18 | foxlit | "So we all leave together on day 3" |
| 17:41.28 | Wobin | also, it's not a linear application of the theorums up to 99 |
| 17:41.37 | Wobin | it's an instant application of theorum 99 |
| 17:42.02 | Lunessa | Silly fool! Oriental girls do not come with green eyes! |
| 17:42.16 | Wobin | the linear progression is only there to provide the framework for the induction |
| 17:42.33 | Wobin | Lunessa: unless they're only part oriental! |
| 17:42.42 | Wobin | (or are wearing contacts) |
| 17:42.46 | Lunessa | Mau-Ying! |
| 17:43.23 | Lunessa | Wobin: I was just making a gratuitous reference to Big Trouble in Little China |
| 17:43.57 | Arrowmaster | ok now it makes sense |
| 17:44.04 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you're such a speciesist. |
| 17:44.50 | cog|work | Grum: ping |
| 17:45.07 | Lunessa | Probably true. I mean, I don't really thing anything outside a narrow band of homo sapiens of a particular gender to be all that attractive. |
| 17:45.22 | Lunessa | s/thing/think |
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| 17:46.31 | foxlit | http://images.macrumors.com/article-new/2011/09/mac_app_store_rebuy_warning.jpg << treacherous default. |
| 17:47.15 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking how can two people both apply the theory without getting confused but really people only know that they see either 99 or 100 people with blue eyes, and since they cant communicate they are using the linear progression of the theorys to determine what day they will attempt to leave |
| 17:47.58 | Lunessa | foxlit: I used to argue for things to always default to the "no/cancel" option - but I routinely got out-voted by marketing and other executives who thought otherwise. So yes, that is a horrible default. |
| 17:48.20 | Fisker | umad Torhal|work ? |
| 17:48.21 | Wobin | I was going to ask about if they didn't know how many had blue eyes, but since they're on an island, they do |
| 17:48.40 | Wobin | or at least, they know how many +/- 1 blue eyes there are |
| 17:49.14 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:13.24 | Fisker | so Gnarfoz |
| 18:16.38 | cog|work | do you like CoC fisker? |
| 18:17.14 | Gnarfoz | gtfo Fisker |
| 18:19.42 | Fisker | sorry Gnarfoz :( |
| 18:19.47 | Fisker | CoC cog|work ? |
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| 18:32.39 | kd3 | wtf? http://boingboing.net/2011/09/16/insurer-music-festival-tragedy-caused-by-illegal-downloading.html |
| 18:34.06 | Fisker | cog|work pls |
| 18:34.53 | Fisker | pirates did 9/11 kd3 |
| 18:35.10 | Fisker | software pirates btw not sea pirates |
| 18:35.11 | Fisker | yarrgh |
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| 18:45.38 | cog|work | why the hell do things that can 2-shot raid geared warriors have SILVER borders? |
| 18:48.58 | foxlit | because they're rare? |
| 18:49.35 | foxlit | health is probably a much better predictor of difficulty |
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| 18:56.11 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 18:56.13 | Fisker | y u no explain? |
| 18:57.04 | cog|work | wow coc |
| 18:57.09 | cog|work | y u no liek? |
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| 19:04.51 | Lunessa | You know, I almost wish WoW had tiered mobs the way City of Heroes did; Minions, Lieutenant, Bosses. |
| 19:05.27 | Seerah | normal, elite, boss? |
| 19:05.31 | Seerah | :p |
| 19:05.46 | Lunessa | Not really the same. |
| 19:06.09 | Lopeppeppy | Will you be my minion, Lunessa? |
| 19:06.21 | Seerah | I haven't played CoH since it first came out. Then we switched to WoW. |
| 19:06.22 | Lunessa | WoW os lots of exceptions and stuff called Elite that's super-easy, and stuff that's normal but really difficult⦠|
| 19:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | What, you want reasonable scoring systems, Lunessa? |
| 19:06.50 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I was going to offer you a hench-person position |
| 19:07.28 | Fisker | cone of cold cog|work ? |
| 19:08.16 | Lunessa | Seerah: That pretty much matches my experience with it. I played for close to six months between quitting EQ and the launch of WoW |
| 19:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | No way. I'm the queen. |
| 19:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | Queeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen! |
| 19:09.57 | Lunessa | oh, so not a prtitty, pritty, princ-cessssssssss? |
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| 19:12.01 | Lopeppeppy | Did you need a stabbing? Because I have a dagger going spare, right here. |
| 19:20.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:21.30 | Lopeppeppy | What, too nice? *weg* |
| 19:22.46 | Lopeppeppy | blows kisses to Lunessa. |
| 19:23.50 | Lunessa | Stabbing, branding, minion status⦠next thing you know, you'll be wanting me to paint the fence and carry out the trash. |
| 19:24.15 | Lopeppeppy | Wax on... |
| 19:24.16 | Cairenn | *snicker* |
| 19:26.20 | Lunessa | Listen ladies, I'm all for waxing⦠but let's be careful ok? I don't need to make Steve Carrell noises. |
| 19:27.12 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know this person. Does he sound like Jim Carey on cocaine? Or downers? |
| 19:27.25 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 19:28.06 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You have not seen "The Office" (US Version) or |
| 19:28.14 | Lunessa | "The 40 Year Old Virgin"? |
| 19:28.21 | Cairenn | hasn't |
| 19:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | You've got my stapler? |
| 19:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | No, that's Office Space. So I guess not. I do not know this penguin. |
| 19:29.12 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDpv97yelwI&feature=related |
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| 19:33.21 | Lunessa | yeah, ouch |
| 19:35.19 | Lopeppeppy | Meep, that's evil just to look at. Nair, people! |
| 19:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | So, what's for dinner. Chinese, or a lovely sub? |
| 19:39.43 | Lunessa | Madness: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/09/16/funny-pictures-star-trek-enterprise-cat-post-vs-tardis/ |
| 19:40.07 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Chinese. Or better, Pho. |
| 19:41.27 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:43.02 | Lopeppeppy | Pho is not in my worldview, Lunessa. |
| 19:43.20 | Lunessa | alas and alack! |
| 19:43.38 | Lopeppeppy | trgedy |
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| 19:49.41 | Lunessa | I need to decide what to do for dinner as well - since I failed to thaw anything from the freezer. :/ |
| 19:50.09 | Lopeppeppy | I hate to cook. *le sigh* |
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| 19:54.41 | Lunessa | Ok, student broke his roaming profile - why? because he had 700mb of save game files for minecraft. LOL |
| 19:56.33 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 19:56.41 | TMc51 | lol |
| 19:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | That happens at The Boyfriend's workplace a lot... they download games that they don't have permissions to install, and then don't delete them, and then when they are out of disk space they get to go hat in hand to ask to have them removed. Funny as hell. |
| 20:00.40 | Fisker | don't get me started Lunessa |
| 20:00.53 | Fisker | some years back when 2003 server was still pretty new |
| 20:00.59 | Fisker | someone used 2000 server |
| 20:01.06 | Fisker | and someone had troubles logging in |
| 20:01.24 | Fisker | apparently quotas does not count before you log off or something like that on windows 2k |
| 20:01.38 | Fisker | so he had managed to fill his roaming profile with 15GB of music |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker | and the great part is that he had his cached profile on other computers |
| 20:02.12 | Fisker | so when he logged in on those it just refilled the roaming profile |
| 20:02.27 | Fisker | imad |
| 20:02.28 | Dagmar | BEcuase Roaming Profiles are completely fucked |
| 20:02.29 | Lunessa | Yeah, that's exactly the case here. |
| 20:02.32 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 20:02.54 | Dagmar | You're better off just pointing My Documents at a fucking network share someplace. |
| 20:03.15 | Fisker | even worse is it that we have some national kind of login system |
| 20:03.22 | Dagmar | If you ever log in at more than one machine at a time, god help you |
| 20:03.32 | Fisker | so their windows AD login is also a login for some other places |
| 20:03.44 | Fisker | so we had to fix it eventually |
| 20:03.59 | Fisker | but we ended up giving him a new profile until we had cleaned all of the machines ;_; |
| 20:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | I'd just delete him as a user. Sorry, you're fired for being dumb. |
| 20:04.56 | Fisker | student :P |
| 20:05.25 | Lopeppeppy | Expelled! |
| 20:05.33 | Fisker | hah |
| 20:05.52 | Fisker | don't think i've seen as weak a school as this |
| 20:05.59 | karl_w_w | haha shaman tier 13 is fugly |
| 20:06.01 | Fisker | there was a teacher seriously messing with the network |
| 20:06.07 | Fisker | had tons of spyware and malware installed |
| 20:06.22 | Fisker | downloaded porn over kazaa in his work hours, and even let his home laptop stay at work to download more porn |
| 20:06.48 | Fisker | basically we wanted to ban him from the network, rip the ethernet cord out of his laptop and slap him silly with it |
| 20:06.50 | Fisker | but nope |
| 20:07.01 | Fisker | just got a warning to be more careful in the future |
| 20:07.03 | Fisker | (He wasn't) |
| 20:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | they never are |
| 20:08.47 | Fisker | btw they were still using hubs as of 2008 |
| 20:08.56 | Fisker | school wouldn't let them replace it until they died |
| 20:08.57 | Fisker | ... |
| 20:09.07 | Fisker | it was only like 1 or 2 but still :D |
| 20:09.55 | Lunessa | Here, if you download porn and it's not a related/relevant research project - you get terminated. |
| 20:10.39 | Lunessa | And if you're a physics professor, you can't claim it's work related. If you're in the humanities department, you might be able to make a case |
| 20:11.33 | Fisker | i'm sure the numb3rs writers can come up with a legitimate excuse for physics professors |
| 20:12.21 | Lunessa | Heh. That show has some of the worst writing in the world. |
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| 20:14.07 | Fisker | oh yeah i almost forgot |
| 20:14.12 | Fisker | gotta see if there's any dota drama yet |
| 20:14.42 | Fisker | bah |
| 20:14.57 | Fisker | Pursuant to 37 C.F.R. Section 2.102, Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., 16215 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92618, |
| 20:14.57 | Fisker | UNITED STATES respectfully requests that he/she/it be granted an additional 60-day extension of time to file |
| 20:14.57 | Fisker | a notice of opposition against the above-identified mark for cause shown |
| 20:14.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | huh? |
| 20:15.25 | Fisker | Valve trademarked Dota |
| 20:15.35 | Fisker | and both Blizzard and Riot Games is opposing it |
| 20:15.35 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* |
| 20:15.58 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2011/09/your-superhero-name-is-going-to-suck.php |
| 20:16.16 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:16.21 | mikma | cairenn: my guess was that tekkub's superheroname was going to be "pink buttplug" |
| 20:17.11 | Cairenn | Greychair |
| 20:17.24 | Lopeppeppy | Pink Striped Post It Notes! |
| 20:17.28 | Lunessa | Black Keyboard? Oh, yeah sucks. |
| 20:17.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/the-object-to-your-left-is-now.php |
| 20:17.57 | Lopeppeppy | Keyboard! I'm doing murder with a keyboard! |
| 20:18.50 | mikma | Flesh Tablet |
| 20:18.53 | Cairenn | TV remote |
| 20:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, you mean Fleshlight, don't you? |
| 20:19.20 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 20:19.56 | mikma | lopeppeppy: negative |
| 20:20.05 | mikma | altho my friend would have |
| 20:20.23 | mikma | he told me he had fleshlight (which he said rocks) but his stonerfriends stole it |
| 20:21.11 | Fisker | highlights Sixen while casting |
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| 20:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | I have heard good reviews of these things, I understand some men would do harm to the stonerfriends in retaliation. |
| 20:21.37 | Sixen | >.. |
| 20:21.42 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:21.45 | Lunessa | Dude⦠stealing someone's flashlight is like⦠*squick* |
| 20:21.55 | Fisker | i can barely hear you guys :( |
| 20:22.00 | Fisker | guy on vent is shouting louder |
| 20:22.04 | Lunessa | bah, stuipd auto-correct |
| 20:22.16 | Lopeppeppy | I know what you meant, Lunessa, and I agree. Eeew. |
| 20:22.31 | Cairenn | Thirded |
| 20:23.21 | Fisker | only one you're legally a guardian of can play on your account btw Sixen |
| 20:23.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still going eeew. Stoners are gross. |
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| 20:24.23 | Fisker | i think common items will have different looks Sixen |
| 20:24.28 | Fisker | depending on class |
| 20:24.50 | Sixen | ya, :X |
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| 20:45.40 | Fisker | virtual money != real money |
| 20:46.01 | Fisker | giving you a ebalance of 10000000000000000000000 is irrelevant when they can just remove it afterwards |
| 20:47.07 | BlackNet | get caught buying gold? |
| 20:50.10 | Dagmar | Someone should fill him in on how modern monetary theory works. |
| 20:50.23 | BlackNet | LOL |
| 20:53.37 | cbreak | modern monetary theory: Losing 2*10^9 swiss francs in a gamble |
| 20:55.27 | BlackNet | for everything else there's paper printing |
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| 21:14.03 | Equal | hey, I was wondering if anyone knows whether Recount's inter-addon messaging features have been disabled. I've been trying to track them via spamalyzer but it looks like data and version syncing are both broken in the current game. |
| 21:14.14 | Equal | err current version -.- |
| 21:17.37 | Lunessa | Dear self-important people, we took away admin rights on desktop PCs for a reason. If you wanted them for convince sake, it's not coming back. Sorry. |
| 21:19.55 | foxlit | Dear self-important administrators: you and the horse you rode in on. |
| 21:23.24 | Lunessa | Dear foxlit; People who don't know how to manage their computer have no business being admins. If you have to call me to change the background of your desktop, you should not have admin rights and be installing software. You and your horse can go do something unnatural too. :P |
| 21:25.23 | Dagmar | loooool |
| 21:25.51 | Lunessa | (over-granting of admin rights was a problem here on campus - users with no business having those rights were the largest sources of malware). |
| 21:26.21 | Dagmar | Man I knew this system I'm working with was showing it's age but I didn't expect this |
| 21:26.45 | Dagmar | I just clicked a button to launch it's web GUI and it failed with an error... because it couldn't launch netscape |
| 21:26.56 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 21:26.57 | Lunessa | ⦠lol. |
| 21:29.32 | Lunessa | http://gammasquad.uproxx.com/2011/09/suspended-animation-fda-approved-human-trials-peter-rhee |
| 21:59.07 | Jamash | hi |
| 22:02.04 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5841033/insane-unreal-tournament-3-modders-weaponize-nyan-cat |
| 22:02.07 | Arrowmaster | epic |
| 22:08.58 | Dagmar | *boggles* |
| 22:20.03 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 22:20.08 | Fisker | got your tactical enhancement pack? |
| 22:22.56 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:25.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:38.09 | Fisker | lol |
| 22:38.16 | Fisker | so apparently they're already cancelling the wow magazine |
| 22:38.22 | Fisker | what a bunch of amateurs |
| 22:39.29 | Arrowmaster | i signed up for it at last blizzcon then canceled it |
| 22:39.42 | Arrowmaster | i just wanted the murloc |
| 22:40.01 | Fisker | what murloc? |
| 22:40.18 | Arrowmaster | murloc plushie |
| 22:40.41 | Fisker | some special deal if you signed up at blizzcon? |
| 22:40.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:41.09 | Arrowmaster | that color one was only being given to those that signed up for the mag |
| 22:41.15 | Fisker | can't really believe they would be so shitty |
| 22:41.21 | Fisker | i though they were pros |
| 22:41.23 | Arrowmaster | a different color one was being sold at the store |
| 22:41.38 | Fisker | But they just basically fucked up their website like 1½ month ago |
| 22:41.43 | Fisker | didn't tell people shit |
| 22:41.48 | Fisker | and now they're cancelling the magazin |
| 22:41.49 | Fisker | lol |
| 22:41.54 | Fisker | magazine* |
| 22:42.12 | Fisker | and these guy publish shit like pcgamer and official xbox magazine? |
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| 22:44.23 | Stanzilla | where's my beta Fisker |
| 22:44.37 | Fisker | i don't know |
| 22:55.02 | mckenziemc | invites Stanzilla to gamma-test Fisker |
| 23:00.50 | Stanzilla | naw |
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| 23:12.05 | foxlit | hate starcraft at night |
| 23:12.11 | foxlit | it's lose-lose-lose-lose-lose-lose some more : |
| 23:12.13 | foxlit | ( |
| 23:12.45 | Torhal | I think Fisker designed this advertising campaign: http://i.imgur.com/Bv2LF.jpg |
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| 23:39.00 | Stanzilla | cool, chrome now uses flash 11, maybe they'll have a 64bit version ready für m16 |
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| 23:41.41 | foxlit | fúr :P |
| 23:42.21 | foxlit | or, well, für, but thats more of a pain to type. |
| 23:42.31 | Stanzilla | oops |
| 23:42.36 | Stanzilla | ze german came through |
| 23:42.43 | Stanzilla | for :p |
| 23:42.52 | Phelps | I would like to buy a vowel |
| 23:43.23 | Phelps | äëïöü |
| 23:43.37 | Phelps | à èìòù |
| 23:43.50 | Phelps | âêîôû |
| 23:44.02 | Phelps | áéÃóú |
| 23:44.29 | Phelps | ãõ |
| 23:44.33 | Phelps | im missing some |
| 23:44.55 | Phelps | maybe not |
| 23:47.01 | Fisker | umad Phelps ? |
| 23:47.09 | Phelps | if I missed one |
| 23:47.15 | Phelps | i would be a little mad |
| 23:47.37 | Fisker | i maded a fart |
| 23:48.54 | Phelps | büt à â hìñk î gòâ â hém Ã¥|| |
| 23:49.00 | Fisker | blizzard are still posting on the forums |
| 23:49.03 | Fisker | sign of beta? |
| 23:49.19 | Phelps | i hope I get a beta |
| 23:49.32 | Phelps | not too many mac wow players |
| 23:49.39 | Phelps | and I have pretty nice system specs |
| 23:49.57 | Phelps | i might update it from my hackintosh though |
| 23:50.00 | Phelps | has much better stats |
| 23:50.50 | Phelps | i7, 32gb ram, gtx 580 x2 sli |
| 23:51.34 | Fisker | Stanzilla :( |
| 23:51.37 | Fisker | Gnarfoz should be in now |
| 23:53.13 | foxlit | Phelps: immediately disqualified |
| 23:53.42 | Phelps | lol |
| 23:53.44 | Phelps | why |
| 23:54.03 | Phelps | they need to test it on mac too |
| 23:54.24 | Phelps | so the pool of mac testers are smaller |
| 23:54.34 | Phelps | so i should have a higher chance |
| 23:55.52 | foxlit | specs are clearly not standard -> not supported -> not interesting. |
| 23:55.58 | Fisker | cries out for Gnarfoz and/or Sixen |
| 23:56.06 | foxlit | But even the basic premise is questionable |
| 23:56.06 | Stanzilla | ./pat |
| 23:56.27 | Fisker | i need one indeed Stanzilla |
| 23:56.33 | foxlit | On the other hand, because there are so few mac models, all of them are available through apple compatibility labs |
| 23:56.53 | foxlit | so you probably need about zero mac testers to make sure the thing works. |
| 23:57.13 | Stanzilla | good thing that I don't have a mac |
| 23:58.13 | Sixen | sup |
| 23:58.53 | Phelps | foxlit |
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| 23:59.02 | Phelps | its a windows pc |
| 23:59.07 | Phelps | I would do it under window |
| 23:59.09 | Phelps | windows |
| 23:59.11 | Phelps | not os x |
| 23:59.27 | Phelps | im usually booted into os x |
| 23:59.34 | Phelps | but i would update the beta profile in windows |
| 23:59.56 | Phelps | so I would have nice specs, with pretty amazing connection, and a mac with nice specs as well |
