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| 00:01.04 | foxlit | oomp: it's probably cleanest to just register for the chat channel messages yourself and see when your last message to the channel was. |
| 00:01.07 | sylvanaar | I already did that - but i'd realy like to have onne that is spcific to my project |
| 00:01.27 | foxlit | has the graphics skills of a rock. |
| 00:01.47 | foxlit | The whole "detect whether a message was sent by an addon" thing seems like a red herring. |
| 00:02.27 | oomp | hmm, let me link the addon and see if it helps understand why I'm not sure what you're suggesting will work; www.oomp.eu/addons/MoopSpam.zip |
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| 00:03.16 | oomp | if you check line47, that's how I'm doing it at the moment, but I don't like it |
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| 00:08.45 | foxlit | so that's your function: http://pastebin.com/rciz3zfT |
| 00:08.55 | foxlit | I'm not sure why you want the :find() :) |
| 00:09.10 | oomp | because I'm sending 2 lines to trade chat |
| 00:09.22 | oomp | so if I didn't have the :find() bit, the 2nd line wouldn't be sent |
| 00:10.41 | oomp | orrrr, would it be sent and I'm being stupid... |
| 00:12.54 | oomp | -_- |
| 00:13.44 | oomp | I remember having a reason when I first did it, now I have no idea why I did |
| 00:15.17 | oomp | http://pastebin.com/n8mxRB2d should be fine I guess |
| 00:16.10 | oomp | am I right in saying that as soon as 'player == sender' evaluates to false, it won't check the 2nd condition and go to the next elseif? |
| 00:16.36 | foxlit | yes |
| 00:16.52 | oomp | alright just doublechecking! thanks |
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| 00:34.48 | oomp | see you, thanks for the help foxlit, once again :) |
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| 00:47.50 | airtonix | is it too much to ask that the network icon in the systray for windows7 show more information without such a deep click navigation? why can't it be more like network-manager-applet |
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| 00:52.29 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: what kind of info do you want? |
| 00:52.54 | Gnarfoz | nerdy tech info windows users don't need! |
| 00:53.07 | Thunder_Child | thats what ipconfig is for |
| 00:53.08 | Gnarfoz | (also, isn't NM generally considered an abomination? ^^) |
| 00:54.12 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: i just want to reduce the amount of clicks needed to get to the status page |
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| 00:54.45 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: right now it's 4 esoteric clicks in windows 7 as opposed to gnomes 1 click |
| 00:55.14 | Gnarfoz | it shows the status fine without even clicking on it |
| 00:55.25 | Gnarfoz | you just want a different level of detail |
| 00:55.28 | airtonix | Gnarfoz: where does it show the ip address then ? |
| 00:55.37 | Gnarfoz | how's that "status" |
| 00:55.40 | Gnarfoz | that's "configuration" |
| 00:55.41 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: i can do it in 4 |
| 00:55.51 | airtonix | didn't i say 4 ? |
| 00:56.05 | Thunder_Child | oh, heh i saw 7 |
| 00:56.14 | Thunder_Child | from teh windows |
| 00:56.25 | airtonix | i mean even if in that right click menu it had a button to reveal more info right there |
| 00:56.45 | airtonix | maybe in windows 8 i'll be able to modify it with jquery |
| 00:56.51 | Thunder_Child | or you could just have a script that runs an ipconfig pinned to your bar...thats 1 click |
| 00:56.56 | Gnarfoz | or maybe you won't, since windows is not linux ;P |
| 00:57.04 | airtonix | Gnarfoz: umad? |
| 00:57.20 | Gnarfoz | no, but you apparently are ignorant of the fact that windows is indeed not linux. |
| 00:57.28 | Gnarfoz | (or just want to complain about it) |
| 00:57.55 | airtonix | why do you accept it so easily? |
| 00:58.00 | airtonix | this is outrageous |
| 00:58.04 | Gnarfoz | it's really not |
| 00:58.05 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:58.11 | airtonix | i disagree |
| 00:58.19 | Gnarfoz | then use network-manager-applet |
| 00:58.29 | Gnarfoz | (or something else on windows that constantly shows you your IP) |
| 00:58.30 | airtonix | my human rights are being violated by your apathy |
| 00:59.00 | Gnarfoz | maybe you should talk to Fisker, he knows a thing or two about violating human rights |
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| 00:59.27 | airtonix | oh and internet explorer 9 is awesome |
| 00:59.41 | airtonix | f12 > ctrl b > click on a tag : lulz ensues |
| 01:00.27 | Gnarfoz | I doubt Internet Explorer 9 users know what f1-f12 do, or figure out there's more than ctrl+c & ctrl+v :> |
| 01:00.49 | airtonix | it's an attempt to copy what chrome does when you press f12 |
| 01:01.24 | karl_w_w | which is an attempt to copy firebug |
| 01:01.41 | Wobin | and they're still not as functional as firebug |
| 01:01.46 | Wobin | although they're getting close |
| 01:01.49 | Gnarfoz | well no shit sherlock, stuff gets copied all the time. get with the program. |
| 01:02.36 | Thunder_Child | such rudeness |
| 01:02.40 | airtonix | Gnarfoz: this is interesting, are you able to entertain me further? |
| 01:04.38 | airtonix | don't give it up honeybunch |
| 01:06.32 | karl_w_w | i seriously cant read these new captchas with the wavey lines |
| 01:06.57 | airtonix | yeah there must be a better way to stop bots |
| 01:07.25 | karl_w_w | there is |
| 01:07.29 | airtonix | http://www.webdesignbeach.com/beachbar/ajax-fancy-captcha-jquery-plugin |
| 01:07.41 | karl_w_w | http://i55.tinypic.com/16jpycz.png <- irony much? |
| 01:08.38 | foxlit | airtonix: how could that ever work? |
| 01:09.00 | airtonix | it's not obvious? |
| 01:09.49 | foxlit | it seems to me that it wouldn't. |
| 01:10.03 | airtonix | ok |
| 01:10.13 | airtonix | why do you think that ? |
| 01:10.44 | foxlit | It seems to rely on straightforward object recognition from a limited pool of images |
| 01:10.55 | airtonix | and a drag event |
| 01:11.20 | karl_w_w | like |
| 01:11.22 | TMc51 | did somebody say 'drag'? =D |
| 01:11.28 | karl_w_w | gay and lesbian mardi gras? |
| 01:11.33 | airtonix | i mean my other approach is going to be to use a honeypot field that has all it's id and names set to what appears to be the real field names |
| 01:11.52 | foxlit | point is, this solution won't work on a large scale |
| 01:11.55 | TMc51 | puts on his platform shoes, and wig. |
| 01:12.08 | foxlit | The moment someone deliberately sets out to break it, it'll crumble -- there's no computationally complex challenge |
| 01:12.10 | airtonix | i already have a Django form class that i use to subclass on other forms that i want this behaviour |
| 01:12.59 | airtonix | foxlit: you mean the drag n drop is too reliant on a set of complex conditions to operate properly? |
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| 01:14.03 | foxlit | no. |
| 01:14.33 | karl_w_w | isnt captcha trademarked |
| 01:14.41 | airtonix | by who? |
| 01:15.06 | karl_w_w | The term "CAPTCHA" was coined in 2000 by Luis von Ahn, Manuel Blum, Nicholas J. Hopper, and John Langford (all of Carnegie Mellon University). It is an acronym based on the word "capture" and standing for "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart". Carnegie Mellon University attempted to trademark the term,[2] but the trademark application was abandoned on 21 April 2008.[3] |
| 01:15.10 | karl_w_w | so no |
| 01:19.08 | Arrowmaster | so does that mean captcha bots are turning complete? |
| 01:19.45 | Iriel | The turing test has nothing to do with turing complete |
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| 02:06.07 | mckenziemc1 | hmm, i don't know/remember how to find the center and radius of a circle given 3 points on the circumference (sp) :( |
| 02:06.08 | batbot | mckenziemc1, circumference is correct. |
| 02:07.46 | foxlit | And you're sure the problem is well-formed? |
| 02:08.07 | foxlit | three distinct points uniquely specify a circle? |
| 02:09.00 | foxlit | (x1-cx)^2+(y1-cy)^2=r^2 |
| 02:09.07 | foxlit | solve all three. |
| 02:14.02 | mckenziemc1 | my coordinates are approximate so i don't know if that will work |
| 02:15.35 | yssaril | doesnt matter if they are approximate since ANY 3 points will give you a circle (some may have infinite radius but meh) |
| 02:15.57 | foxlit | it seems to me that there's no circle with three points on a line |
| 02:16.20 | mckenziemc1 | ^ |
| 02:17.25 | mckenziemc1 | seems like it would be /really/ sensitive to one coordinate being off though |
| 02:17.38 | mckenziemc1 | calculated results vs "real" values |
| 02:17.54 | mckenziemc1 | eh maybe not |
| 02:18.13 | yssaril | mckenziemc1: as long as they are not the same point or in a line it doesnt matter |
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| 02:19.13 | alestane | I believe that yes, for any three distinct points that are not all co-linear, there is exactly one circle that includes all three points on its circumference. |
| 02:20.41 | foxlit | think "all co-linear" is redundant |
| 02:20.58 | foxlit | since co-linear is already about 3 points, not two. |
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| 02:21.23 | yssaril | 2 points are always colinear :P |
| 02:22.10 | foxlit | you could probably also go for trig: x1 = cx + r * cos(a1) |
| 02:23.04 | alestane | Strictly redundant, yes, although given the one-word difference and the clarity that some people will find, I think there's not a lot of value in stripping it, either. |
| 02:25.01 | foxlit | Hm, CPU coolers. |
| 02:26.41 | Thunder_Child | cooler or heatsink? |
| 02:27.00 | foxlit | There isn't much difference. |
| 02:27.22 | mckenziemc1 | yssaril: by sensitive i meant getting values way off the real one, not impossible to solve |
| 02:27.28 | mckenziemc1 | but that's probably wrong |
| 02:28.17 | foxlit | Find it odd that there are those giant heavy contraptions when the relatively small intel cooler/heatsink seems to manage just fine and is relatively quiet :/ |
| 02:28.49 | Dagmar | Some people want to do inadvisable things that make their CPU generate more heat |
| 02:28.52 | foxlit | http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B002VKVZ1A/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0 << I mean, ouch? |
| 02:29.01 | Thunder_Child | i have one of those 'giant contraptions' and the damn thing is amazing |
| 02:29.02 | Dagmar | Some people just want to keep their CPU cooler than expect |
| 02:29.05 | Dagmar | er expected |
| 02:30.14 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: how so? |
| 02:30.45 | Thunder_Child | my cpu stays under 40 C no matter what i do |
| 02:30.57 | Thunder_Child | other than light it on fire |
| 02:30.57 | foxlit | But what does it matter? |
| 02:31.00 | Arrowmaster | mine stays at 60°C idle |
| 02:31.01 | Thunder_Child | longer life |
| 02:31.18 | foxlit | I've never had a CPU die. |
| 02:31.32 | Thunder_Child | you have never kept one around long enough |
| 02:31.33 | foxlit | Is that really a problem? |
| 02:31.35 | Thunder_Child | is my guess |
| 02:31.53 | Cairenn | night all |
| 02:31.58 | foxlit | Probably correct. Upgrade cycle around 3 years? |
| 02:31.59 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: so early? |
| 02:32.11 | Cairenn | Yeah, really tired tonight for some reason |
| 02:32.14 | Thunder_Child | 5.5 hours too early |
| 02:32.19 | Thunder_Child | ok, have a nice night |
| 02:32.23 | Arrowmaster | ive never gotten one down to 40°C, so either ambient temp is too high, i dont have good enough heat sinks, or i suck at applying thermal paste |
| 02:32.24 | Cairenn | night night |
| 02:32.26 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: sounds right |
| 02:33.08 | foxlit | I'm not even sure the lifetime argument is convincing -- the thing is supposed to be designed to operate up to a specific temperature, and throttle if it ever reaches the threshold |
| 02:33.33 | Thunder_Child | why would i want my cpu to throttle when i dont have to? |
| 02:33.48 | foxlit | the ceiling is like 90C? |
| 02:34.01 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea actually |
| 02:35.02 | foxlit | but regardless, that's an argument for getting a cooling that's enough to keep it below that limit |
| 02:35.13 | foxlit | giant contraptions are probably overkill by that reasoning :) |
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| 02:35.44 | Arrowmaster | ive got one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046 |
| 02:35.57 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: do you consider that a giant overkill contraption? |
| 02:36.21 | foxlit | can't get a sense of the scale |
| 02:36.41 | kd3 | limit 9999 per customer |
| 02:36.43 | kd3 | damn! |
| 02:36.52 | kd3 | guess I can't buy the 3k I need |
| 02:36.56 | kd3 | s/3/30/ |
| 02:37.44 | foxlit | http://www.zalman.com/ENG/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=157 << used to have one of these in Prescott days, they aren't actually that big. |
| 02:39.00 | Arrowmaster | http://www.guru3d.com/article/zalman-cnps-9900-led-review/4 |
| 02:39.18 | foxlit | yeah, okay, big. |
| 02:39.30 | foxlit | sticks out more than the gtx card |
| 02:40.15 | foxlit | wonder if they still require some sort of special mounting due to the weight |
| 02:41.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah you have to mount a bracket onto the mobo and it attaches to the bracket |
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| 02:54.21 | Dagmar | Pretty much all AMD motherboards just have the brackets already, afaik |
| 02:59.08 | karl_w_w | bigger contraption = less airflow needed = less fan noise |
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| 03:25.28 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: iirc i am using http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608007 |
| 03:25.57 | foxlit | what CPU? Are you also overclocking it? |
| 03:27.16 | Thunder_Child | cpu is i7 and of all the things that have to do with a computer overclocking is the one thing i can not seem to get the hang of |
| 03:27.21 | Thunder_Child | or i would be overclocking it |
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| 03:43.29 | karl_w_w | overclocking is simples |
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| 04:03.15 | Corrodias | yeah, so is crashing |
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| 04:49.57 | karl_w_w | if you crash you turn the o/c down :P |
| 04:50.01 | karl_w_w | even simpler |
| 04:50.46 | starlon | How can I get a locale copy of a foreign client, like German or something? Can I do that? |
| 04:50.53 | starlon | s/locale/local/ |
| 04:50.57 | karl_w_w | as long as you dont do anything crazy the only thing in your way is time investiture <- may have invented that word |
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| 04:51.19 | karl_w_w | if you're playing on EU, yes starlon. if US no. |
| 04:51.35 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 04:51.37 | Fisker | hey Corrodias |
| 04:51.39 | Fisker | not so hey karl_w_w |
| 04:51.40 | starlon | I can create a temp toon for debugging purposes? |
| 04:51.59 | Thunder_Child | hiya Fisker |
| 04:52.00 | karl_w_w | yeah just make a new toon :P |
| 04:52.06 | starlon | sweet |
| 04:52.11 | Fisker | waves |
| 04:52.20 | karl_w_w | or get a trial account if it needs to be another account |
| 04:52.40 | karl_w_w | to get another language just change the language in the launcher |
| 04:52.59 | starlon | hmm ok |
| 04:55.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 04:56.16 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 04:56.26 | mckenziemc1 | US live launcher only has english and spanish, but the ptr launcher has everything |
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| 04:58.33 | Fisker | your mom is a ptr launcher |
| 04:58.53 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 05:00.03 | Fisker | oh ok then mckenziemc1 |
| 05:01.15 | karl_w_w | i find it amazingly and pointlessly obnoxious that you can only get english and spanish on the US client |
| 05:02.01 | Fisker | i find it amazingly and pointlessly obnoxious that you can't use your european client on the US realms and so forth |
| 05:02.06 | Thunder_Child | yea, i mean, why isnt it in aussie speak? |
| 05:02.58 | Thunder_Child | actually though it should be in french for canada since they do have a dual language system |
| 05:04.23 | karl_w_w | Fisker the distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success |
| 05:04.45 | karl_w_w | remember that when you're in the asylum |
| 05:06.16 | mckenziemc1 | i thought i read somewhere that blizzard always rounds fractions down, ergo 63.75 would go down to 63 for a value that can't have fractional parts |
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| 05:09.07 | mckenziemc1 | the level 85 resistance bonuses give 64 resistance; idk how it's calculated but it could be 85 * .75 rounded to nearest or up |
| 05:23.30 | Shirik | Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.google.com. Suggestions: Try reloading the page, Search on Google: |
| 05:24.52 | mckenziemc1 | O.o |
| 05:25.57 | Shirik | yeah I don't think searching on google is going to help |
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| 05:51.47 | mckenziemc1 | "[Warlocks] also conjure and distribute magical candy (although they're called Healthstones in the game)" |
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| 05:56.54 | starlon | Any Texans? https://gist.github.com/1158715 |
| 05:57.04 | starlon | raises his hand. |
| 05:57.23 | starlon | Actually I'm a coon-ass, but shh about that... |
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| 06:14.49 | Thunder_Child | the 3d model viewing software on wowhead, is that custom made or 3rd party? |
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| 07:16.43 | airtonix | starlon: coon? |
| 07:17.05 | airtonix | starlon: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boong |
| 07:18.09 | airtonix | we have a brand of cheese in australia called : coon cheese |
| 07:19.04 | airtonix | now, there was a court case where a minority rights group tried to sue the cheese company for racism |
| 07:19.24 | mckenziemc | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=airtonix |
| 07:21.38 | airtonix | mckenziemc: http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/racism.html#coon-a-racist-term |
| 07:22.03 | starlon | o.O |
| 07:22.24 | starlon | I draw the WordNeutrality card. :) |
| 07:23.01 | starlon | All communications are treated equal, including individual words. |
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| 07:23.50 | starlon | English professors wouldn't like it though. |
| 07:24.15 | starlon | Sort of legalizes the use of cliches. |
| 07:24.31 | starlon | And bad connotations. |
| 07:25.05 | starlon | Probably wouldn't pass English exams. :) |
| 07:25.26 | airtonix | you just nulifyied the legitmate claim to sympathetic profit for a bunch of minority groups |
| 07:25.41 | starlon | no not at all |
| 07:25.48 | airtonix | oh yes |
| 07:26.10 | starlon | well, it's certainly not intended that way |
| 07:26.13 | airtonix | the moment we all actually care less than nothing whether a word incites racial hatred is the moment those parasites stop getting money |
| 07:26.53 | starlon | hmm |
| 07:27.05 | starlon | You're kinda making sense, but just a little. :) |
| 07:27.09 | airtonix | they start out with good intentions, but after a while they realise how useless they are without this dependancy |
| 07:28.22 | starlon | Does that affect any opinions toward Net Neutrality? In that all communications are treated equal. Free speech is free speech. |
| 07:29.04 | mckenziemc | my speech isn't free, so pay up |
| 07:29.10 | starlon | lol |
| 07:29.16 | starlon | you're a politician? |
| 07:29.26 | airtonix | no |
| 07:29.30 | airtonix | he's a street beggar |
| 07:31.25 | Thunder_Child | the article is amusing, though 225K really is not that much for a house. |
| 07:33.39 | Maldivia | depends on size and location |
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| 07:40.00 | mckenziemc | rotate airtonix a quarter turn during cooking |
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| 07:46.06 | starlon | anyone know a way I can tweet tweet on twitter over my ssh account? |
| 07:46.31 | starlon | I'm sure there's an program. |
| 07:50.03 | airtonix | http://pypi.python.org/pypi/twitter |
| 07:50.20 | mckenziemc | needs more py |
| 07:50.31 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 08:00.02 | starlon | hm python won't do if it means I keep a local copy of python |
| 08:00.20 | starlon | It might work if I had python3 |
| 08:00.30 | starlon | just running it from the directory |
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| 08:01.10 | airtonix | <insert slur about windows/> |
| 08:03.21 | starlon | curse you twitter for not having an interface for text clients. |
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| 08:06.16 | airtonix | there's a irc client that does |
| 08:06.26 | bluspacecow | theres an app for that |
| 08:06.34 | airtonix | soezyaface |
| 08:06.46 | bluspacecow | hows that go like ? |
| 08:06.51 | airtonix | like butter |
| 08:07.04 | airtonix | ohhhhhhh yeah. |
| 08:07.44 | starlon | I got my brother a 5gb month wifi card from verizon. I didn't realize just how small 5gb is. lol |
| 08:07.54 | starlon | I'm wishing I had it here right now. lol |
| 08:07.58 | starlon | sighs. |
| 08:08.02 | airtonix | how's those extra charges? |
| 08:08.06 | starlon | I just woke up not long ago. |
| 08:08.20 | airtonix | 25$ per kilobyte when you go over your monthly quota |
| 08:08.24 | airtonix | lololol |
| 08:08.33 | starlon | nah, it's $10 per gb |
| 08:09.06 | airtonix | "Hi i'd like to discuss this $780,378 surcharge that appeared 4 days after my monthly rollover" |
| 08:09.09 | starlon | so 100+ dollar bill to install WoW. lol |
| 08:09.22 | starlon | lol |
| 08:09.26 | airtonix | dude |
| 08:09.31 | airtonix | i shit you not |
| 08:09.41 | airtonix | mobile data is a scam |
| 08:09.47 | Corrodias | no shit |
| 08:10.15 | starlon | it's rather disfunctional for the price yes |
| 08:10.34 | starlon | I mean 1 month and 5 gb |
| 08:10.41 | starlon | My brother's already at 85% |
| 08:10.56 | starlon | They manipulate it I bet. |
| 08:11.09 | starlon | I was wanting one for a backup though. |
| 08:11.17 | starlon | I would never use the data much. |
| 08:11.21 | Corrodias | i can hit 5gb on a good day no problem |
| 08:11.27 | Corrodias | on my computer |
| 08:11.27 | starlon | just when the DSL goes crappy like tonight |
| 08:11.40 | starlon | yep |
| 08:12.06 | starlon | Hmm yeah I screwed up lol |
| 08:12.45 | starlon | they're good backups, but the idea of giving my brother some help for internet costs by providing 5gb/mo is a teaser. lol |
| 08:13.08 | starlon | THey're being careful of course. |
| 08:13.22 | starlon | They owe the local ISP is why we did it like this. |
| 08:13.30 | starlon | otherwise I'd just give them cash for it |
| 08:13.45 | pompy | "Reset Your PasswordThank you for your request.We have just sent an email to sdgfsdffdssd with instructions for resetting your password." |
| 08:13.56 | pompy | B&N accepts anything in the email field |
| 08:14.20 | starlon | heh |
| 08:15.53 | mckenziemc | hacker |
| 08:16.47 | starlon | informs the FIB |
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| 08:26.19 | starlon | do hackers ever work in teams, perhaps on teamspeak? someone needs to do some big report on it. Hide the faces or something. Sucks though, all that tearing down and setting up the LAN every day after class. hmm don't trust college kids |
| 08:27.58 | mckenziemc | you're scaring me, mister |
| 08:28.16 | starlon | -.- |
| 08:33.59 | cbreak-work | add hoc lans are easy to set up |
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| 08:36.01 | zenzelezz | just remember to bring your coax cable and terminators! |
| 08:36.10 | mckenziemc | D: |
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| 08:43.19 | starlon | yeah they're better today cause people just take laptops. |
| 08:44.24 | zenzelezz | what kind of gamer brings a laptop to a LAN :-o |
| 08:45.02 | starlon | lmao |
| 08:45.06 | starlon | hell yeah |
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| 08:56.08 | airtonix | OLSR /discuss |
| 08:56.08 | airtonix | or rather, OLSR |
| 08:56.43 | mckenziemc | cookies /thread |
| 08:57.18 | zenzelezz | http://static.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2011/08/21/1313931233949_538.jpg - nice driving, sir |
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| 09:10.06 | airtonix | i'd just like to take this opportunity to descriibe how much i hate vi |
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| 09:11.09 | mitch0 | airtonix: you're not worthy |
| 09:11.22 | jnwhiteh | clearly |
| 09:11.24 | airtonix | i really find it to be the worst kind of joke |
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| 09:11.52 | mitch0 | as a joke, it's not so good, I agree. as a text editor, it's the best though :) |
| 09:11.54 | airtonix | even rats provide jokes worthy of payment from stolen bread |
| 09:12.04 | airtonix | no vi sucks |
| 09:12.14 | airtonix | vis : |
| 09:12.16 | airtonix | vi |
| 09:12.17 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 09:12.22 | airtonix | type : |
| 09:12.24 | airtonix | rage |
| 09:12.46 | mitch0 | sneaks into airtonix's account and adds "set -o vi" into his .bashrc |
| 09:12.50 | airtonix | how do i enter a colon? |
| 09:12.52 | airtonix | hoho |
| 09:13.04 | jnwhiteh | i've never understood people who lack the mental capacity to use vi |
| 09:13.31 | airtonix | well because i'm busy creating code to understand the gymnastic gesticulation required to use vi |
| 09:13.53 | jnwhiteh | you mean learning how to toggle between the three modes |
| 09:13.56 | jnwhiteh | yes, it's rocket surgery |
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| 09:14.02 | airtonix | so how do i type a colon at the start of the line? |
| 09:14.06 | jnwhiteh | you type i |
| 09:14.08 | jnwhiteh | and press : |
| 09:14.11 | airtonix | typign a colon does some wierd shit |
| 09:14.34 | airtonix | i mean if you wanted to type a character the most logical thing to do would be to TYPE THAT FUCKING CHARACTER |
| 09:14.35 | jnwhiteh | no shit, typing a colon in normal mode is completely different than typing a colon in insert mode.. |
| 09:14.39 | jnwhiteh | excep |
| 09:14.42 | jnwhiteh | vim is a modal editor |
| 09:14.48 | airtonix | vi ? |
| 09:14.51 | jnwhiteh | always has been |
| 09:14.53 | jnwhiteh | fine, vi |
| 09:14.56 | jnwhiteh | they're the same for this purpose |
| 09:15.02 | airtonix | they both suck then |
| 09:15.08 | jnwhiteh | yes, because you fail. |
| 09:15.09 | jnwhiteh | at life |
| 09:15.13 | airtonix | umad? |
| 09:15.16 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 09:15.18 | jnwhiteh | you clearly are =) |
| 09:15.21 | jnwhiteh | i'm typing just fine |
| 09:15.23 | Kalroth | install nano, airtonix |
| 09:15.24 | mitch0 | :) |
| 09:15.26 | Kalroth | it's a proper editor |
| 09:15.36 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: except for the fucked up eol wrapping :P |
| 09:15.39 | airtonix | it's not installed by default on openwrt |
| 09:15.54 | Kalroth | eol wrapping? |
| 09:15.57 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/vim_tutorial.html |
| 09:16.02 | airtonix | YAY! A REAL EDITOR BEHOLDETH THY GODS GRACE |
| 09:16.07 | jnwhiteh | Kalroth: any lines over 80 characters are wrapped |
| 09:16.13 | airtonix | so ? |
| 09:16.21 | airtonix | not in my nano they aren'y |
| 09:16.21 | jnwhiteh | that just plain doesn't work for many things |
| 09:16.27 | mckenziemc | airtonix: umad? |
| 09:16.30 | airtonix | maybe you fail at nano |
| 09:16.31 | zenzelezz | surely some variant of vi can handle non-wrapping? |
| 09:16.31 | jnwhiteh | i think he's mad |
| 09:16.43 | jnwhiteh | zenzelezz: i'm talking about nano.. not vim |
| 09:16.44 | jnwhiteh | vi |
| 09:16.58 | airtonix | my nano doesn't wrap |
| 09:17.00 | zenzelezz | oh, then nano -w |
| 09:17.01 | Kalroth | nano dafault is -8, it only wraps at a positive value |
| 09:17.04 | Kalroth | default* |
| 09:17.06 | zenzelezz | or --nowrap if you prefer |
| 09:17.20 | jnwhiteh | ah nice |
| 09:17.25 | jnwhiteh | must have been something else than |
| 09:17.38 | mitch0 | s/an$/en/ |
| 09:17.44 | airtonix | probably the lack of retarded keybord shortcuts |
| 09:18.00 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: but I'll admit I spent some time being very annoyed by the wrapping myself until I read the docs :) |
| 09:18.15 | airtonix | ahhh the bliss |
| 09:18.20 | airtonix | i wanted to type a zero |
| 09:18.26 | airtonix | so it typed a zero |
| 09:18.30 | airtonix | and thus it was typed |
| 09:18.32 | Kalroth | "STALLMAN: WHY DOES NANO NOT SUPPORT :^K^H^Y TO TYPE THE NUMBER 5????" |
| 09:18.59 | airtonix | i think vi is the reason people hate linux |
| 09:19.02 | jnwhiteh | i enjoy watching you struggle |
| 09:19.10 | jnwhiteh | it just shows your immense ignorance |
| 09:19.11 | mitch0 | airtunoix: you're wrong |
| 09:19.24 | zenzelezz | airtonix: not unlikely |
| 09:19.26 | airtonix | when you say linux, they see vi and they cringe then cry themselves to sleep |
| 09:19.40 | jnwhiteh | or they take the 45 seconds it takes to learn how it works |
| 09:19.43 | jnwhiteh | and stop sucking at life |
| 09:19.44 | mckenziemc | s/uno/oni/ |
| 09:19.49 | jnwhiteh | I mean, life isn't for everyone |
| 09:19.51 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: lolumad |
| 09:19.52 | jnwhiteh | maybe you could try something else? |
| 09:19.56 | jnwhiteh | do I sound mad? |
| 09:19.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm pretty sure I'm not mad |
| 09:19.59 | airtonix | yes |
| 09:20.08 | jnwhiteh | oh, cause you're the one that sounds mad |
| 09:20.14 | jnwhiteh | I'm quite happy, actually |
| 09:20.20 | airtonix | i have nano, how can i be mad |
| 09:20.26 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: taking the 45 seconds calmly isn't so easy when the file you somehow ended up editing is system-critical =D |
| 09:20.36 | jnwhiteh | zenzelezz: its a one-time investment |
| 09:20.41 | jnwhiteh | if you have the mental capacity of a 7 year old |
| 09:20.56 | airtonix | derp |
| 09:20.58 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: it's the idea of possibly having to reinstall the system that scared me off |
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| 09:21.12 | airtonix | anyway, vi sucks |
| 09:21.14 | zenzelezz | but it was my own fault for carelessly ending up editing the file |
| 09:21.16 | jnwhiteh | k |
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| 09:23.45 | zenzelezz | it's actually a bit funny to remember that I was so afraid of breaking that system-critical file, given how many times I've messed up a kernel recompile |
| 09:23.46 | angayelle | morning people |
| 09:24.07 | zenzelezz | who needs DMA anyway, or support for the file system you're using |
| 09:25.37 | angayelle | i have some reports of lagging when people use my addon, i was going to recommend them using Broker_CPU Memory and make a screenshot at the same moment but there might be a better way to have an overview of the addon they use/memory usage/fps/lag |
| 09:25.49 | angayelle | any addon you could recommend ? |
| 09:26.50 | airtonix | an ebay addon for firefox |
| 09:27.01 | airtonix | so they can find a better computer / graphics card |
| 09:27.29 | Kalroth | addons aren't always slow because of memory usage (rarely even I think) |
| 09:27.30 | mitch0 | angayelle: which addon? (causing the lag) |
| 09:28.25 | angayelle | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/magemanabar.aspx mine but there have been very few reports compared to dl numbers |
| 09:28.59 | zenzelezz | do the complaints mention what sort of situation the player's in when it happens? |
| 09:29.31 | angayelle | nope, i asked them to report informations but noone did so far |
| 09:29.37 | Torhal | installs Emacs in airtonix's skull. |
| 09:29.51 | zenzelezz | angayelle: unless they give you more information, I'd say screw 'em |
| 09:29.57 | angayelle | ehe |
| 09:30.38 | zenzelezz | I mean, it could be *anything* - so unless you know you're doing something particularly heavy in some situations, I wouldn't know where to begin searching for the problem |
| 09:31.21 | angayelle | hence why i was looking for something which could do a report about everything that could cause problem |
| 09:31.53 | airtonix | User Torhal, thought crime detected. |
| 09:32.10 | Torhal | %% Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 09:32.29 | airtonix | guess it sucks on dialup hey bro |
| 09:32.42 | Torhal | Hah |
| 09:33.15 | airtonix | what's a rebel to do? |
| 09:33.28 | angayelle | hiding a frame which have an onupdate handler, stop the onupdate handler right ? |
| 09:33.49 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 09:34.05 | angayelle | k, i had a doubt |
| 09:34.56 | zenzelezz | if you're really curious, you could write a message to the chat frame, then hide the frame and see (would probably lag your client a lot, so if you do, macro the hide command :-p) |
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| 09:38.03 | [Wobin] | what's a decent cooldown tracker for tanks? |
| 09:38.13 | [Wobin] | or warriors in general |
| 09:40.56 | mckenziemc | default action bars are decent |
| 09:41.01 | mckenziemc | for tracking CDs :p |
| 09:41.15 | [Wobin] | If I wanted one button for every thing I want to keep an eye on |
| 09:41.23 | [Wobin] | I'd not have room for the rest of the screen =P |
| 09:46.57 | bluspacecow | "I have 2 monitors and i want to duel moniter my wow... HOW!!! " â¦.. wot ? |
| 09:47.06 | bluspacecow | wtf is duel moniter ? |
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| 09:48.08 | [Wobin] | It's where you punch one monitor |
| 09:48.17 | [Wobin] | and it rocks the table so bad, the other one falls on your head |
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| 10:04.21 | zenzelezz | actually, duel monitor sounds like two monitors fighting over which one gets to show the graphics |
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| 11:36.46 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 11:37.30 | haste | prove it |
| 11:38.04 | mckenziemc | kills airtonix |
| 11:38.11 | airtonix | ok let me get my .. |
| 11:38.17 | airtonix | :< |
| 11:38.22 | mckenziemc | QID |
| 11:38.50 | airtonix | jerk |
| 11:39.36 | mckenziemc | QED* |
| 11:39.59 | haste | everytime I see QED.. I think of touhou |
| 11:39.59 | mckenziemc | though i did mess it up anyway :( |
| 11:40.20 | haste | "in this episode of 'how games ruin your mind!'" |
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| 12:08.00 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/mining/video-2011-08-22-09-54-22.avi <- i find the music fitting ;) |
| 12:13.21 | angayelle | determining the duration of the global cooldown : (1.5/(1+(haste%/100))) ? |
| 12:14.00 | angayelle | cast speed buff/debuff doesn't affect gcd iirc |
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| 13:59.29 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ#t=1m03s |
| 13:59.36 | airtonix | so fisker, anything to report?!?!?!!???!??!?! |
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| 14:13.48 | karl_w_w | https://chzsomuchpun.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/4d223c34-9efe-412b-8356-9d52202584f2.jpg hohoho |
| 14:15.30 | Arrowmaster | ~whalestab karl_w_w |
| 14:15.30 | purl | ACTION stabs karl_w_w with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 14:15.52 | karl_w_w | ~whalenuke Arrowmaster |
| 14:15.52 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Arrowmaster with his mind powers. |
| 14:16.12 | Arrowmaster | ~whaleparry karl_w_w |
| 14:16.12 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry karl_w_w's attacks. |
| 14:16.40 | karl_w_w | you broke it |
| 14:16.59 | karl_w_w | you can't parry uncontrolled nuclear fission, it's uncontrollable |
| 14:17.10 | airtonix | watch me |
| 14:17.16 | karl_w_w | I already am |
| 14:17.21 | Arrowmaster | Edwardo can |
| 14:17.22 | karl_w_w | I mean, ok |
| 14:17.42 | airtonix | kinky |
| 14:17.52 | airtonix | edwardo pensihands |
| 14:28.55 | Fisker | fart fart fartilyfart airtonix |
| 14:29.57 | Shirik | sigh |
| 14:30.00 | Shirik | yet another missed opportunity |
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| 14:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | What did you miss, Shirik? |
| 14:35.35 | mitch0 | probably some nice wikipedia vandalism |
| 14:35.47 | airtonix | to smell farts |
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| 14:36.21 | Shirik | no, I made a call to buy COH at 47.04 today, but I wanted to hold back because in order to pay for that I need to sell off some of my BBY shares, so I figured I could wait a little bit |
| 14:36.26 | Shirik | I was very wrong |
| 14:36.36 | airtonix | meh |
| 14:37.28 | Lopeppeppy | Ooops. Next time, buy what you can right then, I guess? |
| 14:38.39 | airtonix | impulse purchases, the cornerstone of capitalism |
| 14:39.03 | airtonix | <Large Russian Male Belly Laugh/> |
| 14:40.17 | Shirik | the good thing is it just dropped .30 so at least I was smart enough to not let emotions take me over and lose a bunch there. I'll just have to wait for the next opportunity. |
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| 14:41.12 | airtonix | badConsumer |
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| 14:43.27 | karl_w_w | airtonix: the other 3 cornerstones being credit cards, want/need confusion and fat americans? |
| 14:43.45 | airtonix | there are others? |
| 14:45.22 | Kraps | is anyone getting a blank page with this? http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvkontakte.ru%2F |
| 14:46.45 | Fisker | i farted Kraps |
| 14:47.03 | airtonix | just check that's all you did |
| 14:47.26 | airtonix | being a geriatric has it's surprising moments |
| 14:48.13 | Kraps | you're no help Fisker |
| 14:48.29 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 14:48.33 | Fisker | i'm getting a blank page |
| 14:49.03 | Kraps | dammit |
| 14:51.47 | Shirik | karl_w_w: But I need my big mac |
| 14:55.44 | Lopeppeppy | Supersize those fries, sir? |
| 14:59.05 | Kalroth | Kraps: the page uses some javascript thingy, if you disable it and is quick then you can translate the frontpage! |
| 14:59.10 | Kalroth | VKontakte - a universal means of communication and people search |
| 14:59.10 | Kalroth | are used daily by tens of millions. |
| 14:59.19 | Kalroth | With VKontakte you can: |
| 14:59.20 | Kalroth | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.30 | Kalroth | hello fisker have we ever rested |
| 14:59.36 | Kraps | it did look similar to facebook |
| 14:59.49 | Maldivia | people you rested with... mhh |
| 15:00.00 | Maldivia | hmm* |
| 15:01.15 | airtonix | anyone get the feeling people in retail sales who work their way up the management chain are nothing but natural trolls? |
| 15:01.20 | Kalroth | Kraps: how does http://vkontakte.ru/lang.php look? |
| 15:01.35 | airtonix | or marketing |
| 15:01.57 | Kraps | Kalroth: stuff like Acad_status_gradbach='ÐÑпÑÑкник (бакалавÑ)'; |
| 15:02.13 | Kalroth | Kraps: oh you silly you, just click the english link in the bottom of the page (enable javascript for this to work) |
| 15:02.24 | Kalroth | VK is an all-purpose tool for communication and finding friends that is used by tens of millions of people every day. |
| 15:02.29 | Kalroth | Find people with whom you've studied, worked or met on vacation. |
| 15:02.31 | Kalroth | ahh |
| 15:02.39 | Kalroth | so rested means met on vacation! |
| 15:02.41 | Kraps | JS isnt disabled |
| 15:03.04 | Kalroth | dont use google translate, just visit their page |
| 15:04.06 | Kraps | yes |
| 15:04.18 | Kraps | so like facebook |
| 15:04.25 | airtonix | conspiracy? |
| 15:04.31 | Kalroth | mafia facebook |
| 15:04.37 | airtonix | Kalroth: btw vi sucks |
| 15:04.43 | Kraps | your mom airtonix |
| 15:04.44 | Kalroth | vi socks |
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| 15:09.58 | Kraps | omg it's Cairenn |
| 15:11.04 | Fisker | http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/08/22/hacker-groups-tried-to-take-down-wow-and-failed/ <-wow old as fuck news from wowinsider again |
| 15:11.05 | Cairenn | Ack! Where?! *Runs around in a circle like a chicken with its head cut off* |
| 15:18.31 | airtonix | umad? |
| 15:18.36 | airtonix | yerp |
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| 15:20.44 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday krka |
| 15:21.05 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday ckknight |
| 15:21.13 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.ckie.com/project/duet |
| 15:22.49 | Cairenn | I've seen it before |
| 15:23.05 | airtonix | shot down |
| 15:23.14 | airtonix | mikma: burn baby burn |
| 15:23.34 | mikma | disco inferno |
| 15:27.47 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 15:27.50 | Fisker | i love you irl |
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| 15:44.06 | Adys | British Airways BA887 OTP->LHR 14/10/11: 104 EUR |
| 15:44.15 | Adys | British Airways BA885 OTP->LHR 14/10/11: 210 EUR |
| 15:44.20 | Adys | what^ |
| 15:44.41 | durcyn | capitalism |
| 15:45.01 | karl_w_w | Adys: time of day? |
| 15:45.39 | Adys | karl_w_w: 104 eur is early evening, 210 eur is late morning |
| 15:46.01 | karl_w_w | odd |
| 15:46.19 | [Wobin] | is that so odd? |
| 15:46.30 | Adys | on the same company, kinda |
| 15:46.48 | [Wobin] | different times would of course have different costs |
| 15:46.56 | Adys | not really |
| 15:47.01 | [Wobin] | for frequently run flights |
| 15:47.11 | Adys | both of those would be frequently run |
| 15:47.20 | karl_w_w | yeah but i'd expect the costs to be almost the other way round |
| 15:47.25 | Adys | 10am vs 6pm |
| 15:47.28 | karl_w_w | who gets flights late morning? |
| 15:47.52 | Adys | I do.. |
| 15:48.08 | karl_w_w | why? :P |
| 15:48.20 | Adys | when I arrive at my destination, I want it to be as early as possible so I can get cheap vehicles to wherever I need to go |
| 15:48.56 | karl_w_w | that would be a reason for getting an early morning flight :P |
| 15:49.04 | airtonix | ok so go at 6pm |
| 15:49.30 | Adys | karl_w_w: well my usual flights arent more than 6 hours :P |
| 15:49.38 | Adys | but yea i usually take early morning |
| 15:49.59 | Arrowmaster | only 6? its going to take me at least 8 to get to and from blizzcon |
| 15:50.30 | Adys | i dont usually fly outside europe |
| 15:50.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah you have a shorter trip |
| 15:51.22 | jnwhiteh | mine is 11 hours to, and 10 and a half from |
| 15:52.16 | Adys | jnwhiteh: direct? |
| 15:52.19 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 15:52.23 | Adys | bad idea imo |
| 15:52.24 | jnwhiteh | LHR -> LAX |
| 15:52.27 | jnwhiteh | .. why? |
| 15:52.41 | jnwhiteh | I fly from London to CA at least once a year |
| 15:52.50 | Adys | ive had both a lhr->toronto->lax and a lhr->lax |
| 15:53.01 | Adys | and the toronto one was much better |
| 15:53.08 | Adys | you get a small break |
| 15:53.09 | jnwhiteh | how was it better? |
| 15:53.17 | Adys | its only like 7-8 hrs |
| 15:53.28 | jnwhiteh | and then you have to worry about making your connection |
| 15:53.30 | Arrowmaster | ive got DAY->DFW->LAX which is why mines 8 hours due to layover |
| 15:53.31 | karl_w_w | some of us dont have a problem being on a plane for long periods of time :P |
| 15:53.35 | jnwhiteh | once you take off on a directly flight, you arrive =) |
| 15:53.46 | jnwhiteh | well, in theory |
| 15:53.47 | jnwhiteh | :p |
| 15:54.01 | Adys | karl_w_w: i dont have a "problem" with it, but its much easier wrt things like jetlag and headaches |
| 15:54.23 | Arrowmaster | i would prefer direct flights but i cant get them |
| 15:54.34 | Adys | jnwhiteh: connections are easy tbh; whenever you get a close call, you usually get escorted by someone and go through all lines |
| 15:54.44 | karl_w_w | my sleeping patterns are in constant flux anyway, so jetlag doesnt bother me, and i dont get headaches :P |
| 15:54.50 | jnwhiteh | Adys: I've flown.. a lot.. and I've never once been escorted |
| 15:55.00 | jnwhiteh | and I've had incredibly close connections due to delays |
| 15:55.10 | Arrowmaster | i almost always have problems with my ears on flights so if im not careful i wont be able to hear anything for the rest of the day |
| 15:55.13 | Adys | ive never NOT been escorted |
| 15:55.17 | jnwhiteh | I don't mind being on a plane for 11 hours, its a red-eye, I watch some movies, sleep, then i wake up |
| 15:55.20 | Adys | except in very obscure airports |
| 15:56.01 | jnwhiteh | I'd also rather get it all over with |
| 15:56.02 | Adys | jnwhiteh: dunno; i usually sleep 5-6 hours on the plane, and then I cant sleep anymore |
| 15:56.06 | jnwhiteh | plus, direct flights were cheaper |
| 15:56.14 | Adys | so for me its better to have a break in between the periods i cant sleep |
| 15:56.33 | jnwhiteh | sure, I just prefer my peace of mind =) |
| 15:56.39 | Adys | :P |
| 15:56.40 | foxlit | You know, if I got onto a flight to the US right now |
| 15:56.47 | foxlit | I'd probably actually have a normal sleeping schedule |
| 15:56.52 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 15:57.08 | Adys | same for me |
| 15:57.18 | Adys | but I'd have to come back after like a week |
| 15:57.24 | Adys | because I'd be back on an european schedule. |
| 15:57.32 | jnwhiteh | I have a normal european sleeping schedule |
| 15:57.44 | foxlit | it's probably not symmetric that way? |
| 15:57.45 | Adys | yeah europe still has like 5 timezones :P |
| 15:57.54 | jnwhiteh | well, I'm in the UK |
| 15:58.04 | Adys | foxlit: fair enough, i'd have to go to eastern asia |
| 15:58.21 | foxlit | They should totally sell those ticket |
| 15:58.22 | foxlit | s |
| 15:59.59 | karl_w_w | flights to eastern asia? I think they already do |
| 16:00.41 | jnwhiteh | Adys: are you going? who are you flying with (if you are)? |
| 16:00.45 | foxlit | more like a europe -> north america -> eastern asia -> europe round trips. |
| 16:01.09 | pompy | Parnic: dual wielding eh? ;) |
| 16:01.09 | Adys | jnwhiteh: no, decided not to come, had too many flights this year and this year's blizzcon is too boring |
| 16:01.26 | jnwhiteh | hehe, alright |
| 16:02.00 | Adys | Ill go next year, probably with pb_ee |
| 16:02.16 | jnwhiteh | and I almost certainly won't go next year |
| 16:02.23 | Adys | you fail omg |
| 16:02.36 | jnwhiteh | i'll probably be moving |
| 16:02.44 | Adys | where to? |
| 16:02.47 | jnwhiteh | no idea |
| 16:02.52 | jnwhiteh | the next place |
| 16:02.52 | karl_w_w | the convention centre? |
| 16:02.57 | jnwhiteh | uk, sweden, iceland |
| 16:02.58 | jnwhiteh | somewhere |
| 16:02.59 | Adys | jnwhiteh: in country? |
| 16:02.59 | Adys | ah |
| 16:04.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm certainly open to suggestion :P |
| 16:05.10 | karl_w_w | takes his shirt off |
| 16:05.15 | Adys | id say sweden if you have a choice jnwhiteh |
| 16:05.17 | Adys | or norway |
| 16:05.27 | Adys | certainly not iceland |
| 16:05.30 | jnwhiteh | well, we have a choice.. if we can find a job there. |
| 16:05.31 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 16:05.34 | jnwhiteh | on any count? |
| 16:05.43 | Adys | well |
| 16:05.45 | jnwhiteh | Norway we'd have no path to citizenship, so that's almost certainly not going to happen |
| 16:05.50 | Adys | to give you a well-thought and thorough argument |
| 16:05.54 | Adys | ICELAND SUXXX!!!!!!!! |
| 16:05.59 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 16:06.00 | jnwhiteh | yeah, except it doesn't |
| 16:06.04 | jnwhiteh | so, debunked. |
| 16:06.09 | Adys | damn |
| 16:06.16 | Adys | I SHALL COME BACK WITH BETTER COUNTERARGUMENTS |
| 16:06.28 | jnwhiteh | I can probably dismantle them like a dishwasher |
| 16:06.33 | jnwhiteh | WITH A SCREWDRIVER |
| 16:06.36 | Adys | I'll dishwasher you |
| 16:06.40 | jnwhiteh | so why Sweden/Norway, and why not Iceland? |
| 16:06.45 | Adys | eh |
| 16:06.47 | Adys | better internet. |
| 16:06.53 | karl_w_w | iceland suxx |
| 16:06.56 | karl_w_w | I heard |
| 16:07.59 | jnwhiteh | oh, with compelling arguments like that.. why don't I hop right on that O.o |
| 16:08.09 | jnwhiteh | I should probably play Eve Online before applying at CCP |
| 16:08.16 | Adys | exactly |
| 16:08.27 | jnwhiteh | oh, I guess you showed me. |
| 16:08.40 | Adys | i did, didnt i |
| 16:08.41 | Adys | BWAHAHA |
| 16:08.51 | jnwhiteh | if that's what we're calling it =) |
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| 16:10.17 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 16:10.18 | bluspacecow | http://www.damnlol.com/dear-everyone-who-calls-people-5443.html |
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| 16:15.18 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:15.19 | Fisker | umad? |
| 16:15.47 | bluspacecow | not weally |
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| 16:16.49 | Fisker | umad |
| 16:16.53 | Fisker | however Parnic is a dick |
| 16:17.00 | Fisker | he's been in Borderlands 2 since yesterday :( |
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| 19:01.42 | Cairenn | According to FB it is. |
| 19:01.52 | Fisker | what is FB? |
| 19:01.54 | Fisker | Fireblast? |
| 19:01.58 | Fisker | Fieroblast? |
| 19:04.25 | Corrodias | ferroblast |
| 19:04.29 | Corrodias | iron explosions |
| 19:04.36 | Corrodias | fucking hardcore. |
| 19:04.56 | foxlit | silly sc2 |
| 19:05.15 | foxlit | renders font shadows of the previous glyph above the foreground of the next |
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| 19:14.10 | karl_w_w | any1 remember the ilvl requirement for troll heroics? |
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| 19:32.02 | mikma | http://damnyouautocorrect.com/images/cat-car.jpg |
| 19:32.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:33.08 | Cairenn | I have a hard time believing that conversation is for real, but it's amusing regardless |
| 19:33.58 | foxlit | it's a monologue |
| 19:34.32 | Thunder_Child | very amsuing |
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| 19:36.18 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: 349 iirc |
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| 20:05.21 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 20:08.16 | Adys | http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/An-Enum-or-_2.aspx |
| 20:08.31 | Adys | I wouldn't post this link, but they have left me know choice. |
| 20:08.44 | Adys | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/An-Enum-or-_2.aspx |
| 20:09.50 | Cairenn | Ackis, Esamynn|Away - Bad news! Jack Layton died this afternoon. :( |
| 20:10.15 | Cairenn | Errr, actually, apparently early this morning. |
| 20:10.42 | karl_w_w | http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6024/5975213735_7fc6c2b900_b.jpg |
| 20:13.34 | Adys | karl_w_w: Writing appropriately means: Not confusing then and than |
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| 20:19.54 | zenzelezz | looks like dancing is serious business |
| 20:20.40 | karl_w_w | most serious |
| 20:21.44 | zenzelezz | looks like karl danced inappropriately |
| 20:22.17 | zenzelezz | speaking of which, you up for that, Cairenn? |
| 20:22.37 | Cairenn | Sorry, what? |
| 20:22.57 | zenzelezz | inappropriate dancing! |
| 20:23.11 | Cairenn | Not at the moment, no. |
| 20:23.14 | zenzelezz | check karl's link if you didn't |
| 20:23.34 | Cairenn | Not really interested atm. |
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| 20:26.46 | Fisker | zenzelezz |
| 20:35.26 | KarlKFI|work | wishes 'karl' was pinged less. |
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| 20:36.28 | Mr_Rabies | fisker, be careful where you zenzelezz, it's illegal in many cities nowadays |
| 20:36.37 | Fisker | oh god Mr_Rabies |
| 20:36.46 | Mr_Rabies | damned nanny state |
| 20:37.02 | Mr_Rabies | shakes his fist |
| 20:37.22 | Aelobin | anyone know if there's a function/buff that shows which form a worgen is in? |
| 20:38.09 | Kraps | confound those ponies, they drive me to read fanfiction all day |
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| 20:42.07 | mckenziemc | "You may safely disregard any warning messages that appear to alert you that the application is unsigned." : / |
| 20:49.31 | Maldivia | mckenziemc: sounds trustworthy |
| 20:54.18 | Fisker | hey Maldivia |
| 20:54.20 | Fisker | not so hey Kraps |
| 20:54.29 | Maldivia | evening Fisker |
| 20:54.38 | Fisker | umad |
| 20:54.43 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 20:54.51 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 20:54.57 | Kraps | fuck |
| 21:07.59 | Jamash | valve should buy blizzard and put wow on steam |
| 21:09.17 | Fisker | i hear that |
| 21:09.54 | Fisker | battle.net + steam + steamworks = i came |
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| 21:10.29 | Jamash | what class has the sexiest gear for female characters |
| 21:10.57 | Cide | priest? |
| 21:11.07 | Maldivia | tauren |
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| 21:11.11 | Maldivia | anything |
| 21:11.27 | Jamash | I was thinking priest, but wanted a second opinion |
| 21:11.31 | Jamash | tauren is not a class |
| 21:11.35 | Kraps | rogue |
| 21:11.47 | Kraps | leather is teh hot |
| 21:11.53 | Jamash | to be specific, at low levels since this is like my 18th alt |
| 21:12.26 | Kraps | that only referes to humans, idk about other races |
| 21:12.27 | Maldivia | make a plate user, they can wear almst anything |
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| 21:12.51 | Jamash | oh god, I was looking at http://www.wowpedia.org/Suggested_Warcraft_movie_actors_ideas and bruce campbell would make a perfect varian |
| 21:14.09 | nicoli_s | Aelobin:id imagine you just check for a buff |
| 21:14.26 | nevcairiel | Jamash: nah, he isnt the dual sword swinging kind of guy |
| 21:15.12 | Jamash | psh |
| 21:15.19 | Jamash | he has the attitude |
| 21:15.33 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 21:15.42 | Dagmar | He can definitely do "Officious Prick" |
| 21:19.27 | Jamash | I really hope they don't do a live action warcraft movie |
| 21:20.36 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 21:21.09 | Jamash | although what "live action" means is increasingly blurry these days |
| 21:21.22 | nevcairiel | something where real people are visible. :p |
| 21:21.27 | Jamash | 1. live action video game movies are all terrible, 2. I'd rather see the characters done as CGI than with dudes in rubber masks |
| 21:21.29 | nevcairiel | everything else can be animated. :d |
| 21:22.13 | nevcairiel | If i look at LotR, they did some good orcs, elves and dwarves, i don't see how live action can be so bad |
| 21:22.29 | Dagmar | Looks at it this way |
| 21:22.39 | nevcairiel | rather hope its not a el cheapo production |
| 21:23.03 | Dagmar | If you had to put an actual human in a Jar-Jar Binks suit, there's a good chance they'd kill themselves before the shoot was over. |
| 21:23.18 | Jamash | I'd much rather see a full 3D or 2D/3D hybrid approach |
| 21:24.16 | zenzelezz | LotR wasn't a videogame first |
| 21:24.40 | nevcairiel | how is the origin important? |
| 21:24.50 | nevcairiel | Just saying you can do good live action fantasy movies |
| 21:24.58 | Jamash | because with LotR they were free to invent their own visual style |
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| 21:25.07 | Dagmar | Because motherfuckers actually complained about the last Harry Potter movie |
| 21:25.09 | zenzelezz | in my opinion, movies based on video games rarely turn out well; even less so when made as live-action |
| 21:25.14 | Jamash | warcraft already has an extremely well established visual style |
| 21:25.22 | Dagmar | ...one of whom put in their review that they hoped the upcoming book would be better. |
| 21:25.26 | Lunessa | station evil robot uses. |
| 21:25.32 | Jamash | Dagmar: trololololol |
| 21:26.03 | nevcairiel | If you want to stick to that, you have to make a machinima movie directly tied to WoW, everything else will look way different. |
| 21:26.05 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:26.09 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 21:26.11 | Fisker | not so hey Jamash |
| 21:26.17 | Jamash | nevcairiel: you say that like it's a bad thing |
| 21:26.21 | Aelobin | nicoli_s: can't seem to find a buff, only the spell cast to transform :( |
| 21:26.44 | Jamash | I just want a warcraft movie to look like the blizzard cinematics department made it |
| 21:26.56 | Jamash | brb |
| 21:28.07 | Adys | Jamash|afk: Im trying to imagine Mark Sheppard in this |
| 21:28.43 | nevcairiel | he is much better as some shady bad guy |
| 21:28.50 | Adys | not as varian |
| 21:28.53 | Adys | i mean in the movie |
| 21:28.57 | Adys | trying to imagine a character for him |
| 21:29.17 | Adys | but all I can think is he kicks enough ass to be a warcraft character all by himself |
| 21:29.43 | Adys | oh god |
| 21:29.44 | Adys | Illidan |
| 21:29.56 | Adys | nevcairiel: Illidan. |
| 21:30.12 | nevcairiel | I dunno, doesnt really fit to me |
| 21:30.31 | Adys | yeah, thats because illidan isn't badass enough |
| 21:30.46 | nevcairiel | also, illidan already has a voice |
| 21:30.49 | Xyphoid | illidan's twin brother illidave |
| 21:30.50 | nevcairiel | that would make it weird. :) |
| 21:30.57 | Adys | illidan already has two voices |
| 21:30.58 | Adys | :/ |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | Xyphoid: his twin brother has another name. :p |
| 21:32.02 | Adys | Billidan? |
| 21:32.36 | Lunessa | No, see, I think Illidan would make a badass movie villain. But you'd be telling the collapse of the Night Elf Empire story if he's going to be the villain. |
| 21:32.49 | nevcairiel | I'll just assume you're being an ass rather then so ignorant of lore. :p |
| 21:33.20 | Lunessa | I mean, the fall of Ashara would be a wickedly good story. |
| 21:33.24 | Xyphoid | i just work with too many Dan's to take illy's name seriously |
| 21:33.25 | Adys | nevcairiel: malfurion isn't his twin, unless you mean someone else i totally overlooked |
| 21:33.36 | nevcairiel | according to wowwiki he is |
| 21:33.41 | Xyphoid | personally I want to see Sylvanas as protaganist |
| 21:34.17 | Adys | hm |
| 21:34.27 | Adys | Akama would be a good pick for sheppard too, wouldnt it? |
| 21:34.46 | Adys | kind os |
| 21:34.48 | Adys | of* |
| 21:34.51 | Lunessa | Her story is about her as the protagonist. Her story is about a fall, a betrayal and a descent into hatred and malice so deep it alters her forever. |
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| 21:46.46 | Kraps | hey, humans in mlp |
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| 21:57.03 | Xyphoid | actually you know who i want the wow movie to be about, moira thaurissan |
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| 22:05.55 | Thunder_Child | Gary Oldman needs to be in it as well |
| 22:08.34 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: that goes without saying |
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| 22:31.17 | DWSR | Hey everyone, I need a suggestion for a laptop bag. I need a bag that folds open. |
| 22:32.11 | Thunder_Child | a shopping bag thats ripped down the side? |
| 22:32.25 | DWSR | You're so cute. |
| 22:32.55 | DWSR | I'm looking to customize the bag by adding a cooling pad, USB hub, a couple of other things. |
| 22:39.17 | DWSR | Anyone?\ |
| 22:40.44 | Thunder_Child | define 'customize'. You mean attached to? or simply able to hold it |
| 22:44.27 | DWSR | No. |
| 22:44.32 | DWSR | I mean attached to. |
| 22:44.42 | DWSR | Like, adding pockets/straps etc to hold everything. |
| 22:45.02 | foxlit | this sounds like a phenomenally bad idea. |
| 22:45.05 | DWSR | Why? |
| 22:45.27 | foxlit | instead of a simple laptop to get a round, you get a brick in a suitcase |
| 22:45.35 | DWSR | It's not meant to be ultra portable. |
| 22:45.39 | foxlit | s/get a /drag a/ |
| 22:45.44 | DWSR | It's meant to be portable. |
| 22:45.47 | DWSR | Not for every day use. |
| 22:46.03 | DWSR | My use case is basically desktop replacement. |
| 22:46.10 | DWSR | I figure I'll just roll all that into a nice case. |
| 22:46.18 | foxlit | 1. Buy a suitcase. |
| 22:46.24 | foxlit | 2. Mount laptop inside |
| 22:46.25 | foxlit | 3. ??? |
| 22:46.25 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.35 | foxlit | 4. Pretend you're carrying the nuclear briefcase. |
| 22:46.56 | DWSR | That thought had cross my mind. |
| 22:47.04 | DWSR | s/cross/crossed/ |
| 22:48.27 | Thunder_Child | this might do some of what you want http://www.geekstuff4u.com/thanko-laptop-table-bag.html |
| 22:48.42 | DWSR | Only. The. Japanese. |
| 22:49.39 | DWSR | rofl |
| 22:49.46 | DWSR | That's awesome, but I don't really want the whole stand portion. |
| 22:49.53 | DWSR | If I do, I'll build something to mount my bag onto. |
| 22:50.31 | foxlit | It still sounds odd :) |
| 22:50.39 | foxlit | What do you do that requires a portable desktop? :) |
| 22:51.50 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: http://www.instructables.com/id/USB-power-Fan-cooled-built-in-USB-Hub-Laptop-Bag/ |
| 22:52.11 | DWSR | With a pizza box. Brilliant. |
| 23:03.52 | foxlit | "LoadingReadyRun: Ways to Whiten Your Teeth" |
| 23:25.06 | Thunder_Child | i could whiten your teeth foxlit |
| 23:25.21 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: yawn |
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| 23:26.51 | Jamash | "So weapons that look like fish, for example, probably won't be available as source items for Transmogrification, even if one is technically a dagger and has stats." D: D: D: D: D: |
| 23:26.54 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: has the added bonus of protein |
| 23:28.58 | Jamash | Fisker: Ghostcrawler just nerfed stabbing people with fish |
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| 23:29.52 | mckenziemc | fish-slaps Jamash with a Dark Herrin |
| 23:29.53 | mckenziemc | g |
| 23:30.12 | Jamash | I was so looking forward to dual-wielding fish on my goblin rogue |
| 23:30.59 | Adys | is there a way with wget not to exit(1) when encountering a server error? |
| 23:31.02 | Adys | like mkdir -p |
| 23:32.08 | Jamash | an error code or a dropped connection? |
| 23:32.21 | Adys | in my case, error code |
| 23:32.23 | Adys | 404 |
| 23:34.33 | Jamash | probably not |
| 23:34.57 | Adys | mmh :/ |
| 23:36.39 | foxlit | Grumble, the guild bank UI has the most adorable + button |
| 23:36.54 | foxlit | But it has no pushed/disabled/highlight versions :( |
| 23:39.13 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: my friend had two rockfish on his rogue and even enchanted them and used them in raids a few years ago |
| 23:39.21 | Jamash | cool |
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| 23:53.25 | DWSR | Anyone for suggestions on laptop bags? |
| 23:53.38 | DWSR | I need somthing that will open up flat and is fairly large and sturdy. |
