| 00:06.03 | IsoLnCHiP | cogwheel: Hehe, well, dont ask me, the developer of said addon last updated it in 2008, no clue why he hadnt made the switch, probably, because it 'still worked' Now 3 Years later, Im poking around in his addon trying to fix it. But looks like I at least restored the old functionality :) Now all I need to do is figure out what this embedding stuff is and how to update the dependancys and its probably |
| 00:06.04 | IsoLnCHiP | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:09.14 | IsoLnCHiP | Btw can anyone recomend IDE like tools for addon dev, or is an editor with syntax highlighting as good as it gets? At least some boilerplate template snippets? |
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| 00:25.45 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: awesome |
| 00:26.09 | Arrowmaster | i reported him, wonder if somebody at MS will translate it too |
| 00:26.40 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: so they thought you were: a german of turkish descent, and tried to insult your parents as being kurdish. and siblings. |
| 00:27.08 | Arrowmaster | no the guy that sent it was german |
| 00:27.20 | Gnarfoz | well, yes |
| 00:28.01 | Gnarfoz | since he wrote it in german, it's fair to assume that he assumed you were german/could read it ;) |
| 00:28.17 | Gnarfoz | otherwise, why not do it all in turkish and be done with it :D |
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| 00:36.12 | Phelps | Is there an even fired when the user tries to cast a spell ? |
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| 00:36.57 | Phelps | event * |
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| 00:38.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah spell_cast_start or something |
| 00:39.26 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmZFPvs-zw |
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| 00:56.26 | Jamash | Nintendo just told me to do a barrel roll. |
| 00:56.35 | Jamash | The cycle of memes is complete. |
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| 01:09.16 | foxlit | dammit, steam |
| 01:09.36 | foxlit | "Available: 16 August 2011. This game will unlock in approximately 16 hours." |
| 01:11.02 | Jamash | foxlit: http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time |
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| 02:12.57 | Thunder_Child | what is it about monday and tuseday nights that make Leage so popular |
| 02:13.32 | Kraps | LoL? |
| 02:14.03 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:14.08 | Thunder_Child | stupid queue |
| 02:15.28 | Thunder_Child | heh, someone on my team called Huge McBigLarge |
| 02:16.04 | Kraps | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment |
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| 02:20.14 | Wobin | Jamash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztRBs3riPsA |
| 02:23.54 | Kraps | http://geek.pikimal.com/2011/08/15/mass-effect-3-is-bringing-sexy-custom-weapons-and-rpg-elements-back/ |
| 02:25.22 | Jamash | Wobin: wut |
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| 02:37.02 | Computerpunk | Thunder_Child: probably because switches happen. |
| 02:37.08 | Computerpunk | to new free cycle |
| 02:37.27 | Computerpunk | of chars |
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| 02:50.27 | Thunder_Child | Computerpunk: even on days that it is not new rotatyion |
| 02:50.32 | Thunder_Child | rotation( |
| 02:50.33 | Thunder_Child | * |
| 02:53.40 | Computerpunk | Thunder_Child: weird. |
| 02:53.45 | Computerpunk | I just play HoN. |
| 02:53.45 | Computerpunk | :D |
| 02:53.51 | Computerpunk | >>>> LoL. |
| 02:53.52 | Computerpunk | :D |
| 02:54.11 | Computerpunk | Just imo. |
| 02:54.35 | Thunder_Child | i played HoN in beta |
| 02:54.56 | Thunder_Child | but i refer the focus on combat over graphics in leage |
| 02:55.28 | Thunder_Child | and i am still waiting on Dota 2 from Valve. |
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| 02:58.15 | Thunder_Child | also, is Shirik dead? |
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| 03:04.20 | Computerpunk | Thunder_Child: it's f2p now. |
| 03:04.39 | Computerpunk | worth a try. |
| 03:04.44 | Thunder_Child | Computerpunk: oh, i own it, i just prefer LoL |
| 03:08.59 | Computerpunk | Thunder_Child: haha. :D |
| 03:09.01 | Computerpunk | Legacy accounts. |
| 03:09.04 | Computerpunk | fuck_yeah.jpg |
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| 03:27.47 | Kraps | sex http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0QYPpC_Na4 |
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| 03:32.27 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: thats more or less buffy |
| 03:35.11 | Kraps | i would love a buffy game |
| 03:35.21 | Kraps | in tht style |
| 03:35.25 | Kraps | that* |
| 03:36.34 | Kraps | night |
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| 03:51.22 | Ladyxxx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:51.42 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: ^^ |
| 03:52.40 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: heh |
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| 03:55.00 | Thunder_Child | we need to perma-ban chatmosphere |
| 04:04.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah i kept trying to get them to but eir keeps removing it after 24 hours unless they do something special |
| 04:04.43 | Arrowmaster | when Shirik gets back he will know how to do it |
| 04:07.40 | Iriel | http://freenode.net/eir.shtml |
| 04:07.52 | Iriel | See the end |
| 04:08.56 | Thunder_Child | one assumes it has a max day |
| 04:16.08 | Iriel | Their examples include 2 weeks |
| 04:16.29 | Iriel | it says the default is channel dependent but typically 24 hours |
| 04:24.22 | Arrowmaster | just use # so it reports it instead of removing it |
| 04:38.07 | mckenziemc | ban eir! |
| 04:38.08 | mckenziemc | :P |
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| 04:40.10 | Torhal | kickbans mckenziemc. |
| 04:40.31 | mckenziemc | dropkicks Torhal |
| 04:40.51 | Dagmar | Mmm.... "Princess Claudia" and "Elf Claudia". |
| 04:41.58 | Dagmar | Cor I posted a URL for that not too long ago |
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| 05:06.06 | Cairenn | TMc51: heh, great minds |
| 05:06.15 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=243267#post243267 |
| 05:09.01 | Torhal | Cairenn: Awesome. |
| 05:12.10 | Cairenn | Been meaning to talk to him about it forever, I just keep getting distracted by other things and forgetting, so I'm glad TMc51 made the post. |
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| 05:13.01 | Torhal | I've actually had to download a number of AddOns that are only on WoWI because folks post them to Curse. If I don't find a license file, I tell 'em tough luck. |
| 05:13.21 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 05:13.24 | Cairenn | as it should be |
| 05:13.36 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:13.39 | Torhal | Ayup! |
| 05:15.19 | TMc51 | Cairenn: I never really thought of it until I was looking at some stuff on Curseforge a few hours ago. |
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| 05:15.45 | cogwheel | Sixen: y blizz no luff sc2 forums? |
| 05:16.14 | Cairenn | As I said, I've been meaning to talk to Dolby about it forever, it's an excellent idea and something we should definitely make a spot for. I just keep getting distracted by other stuff and forgetting to talk to him about it. |
| 05:16.17 | Sixen | Whatcha mean? :O |
| 05:16.24 | Thunder_Child | good lord cogwheel, i thought you were Fisker at first when i read that. |
| 05:16.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:16.36 | Sixen | I thought it was fisker when I saw my name ding in this channel |
| 05:16.36 | cogwheel | wins |
| 05:16.38 | Sixen | I almost didn't click ;) |
| 05:16.42 | cogwheel | haha |
| 05:16.51 | TMc51 | it is Fisker, he just stole cog's name. |
| 05:16.57 | Sixen | truth |
| 05:17.04 | cogwheel | LIEZ |
| 05:17.13 | cogwheel | would fisker do this? |
| 05:17.28 | cogwheel | Sixens a trout around a bit with a large slap |
| 05:17.38 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 05:17.45 | TMc51 | Yes, and he would kill a man. |
| 05:17.54 | Sixen | :P |
| 05:17.55 | cogwheel | well i wouldn't! so there! |
| 05:18.00 | Sixen | Also, what's wrong with the sc2 foramz? |
| 05:18.01 | cogwheel | i proved it! |
| 05:19.29 | cogwheel | Sixen: blues have been pretty much silent for a long time except for talking about tournaments, announcing the gomtv compromise, and a few "fluff" topics |
| 05:19.31 | TMc51 | havent played minecraft in a bit. crossing my fingers hoping it doesnt start crashing on me again. |
| 05:21.03 | Sixen | hmph |
| 05:21.08 | Sixen | must be all those damn wow players |
| 05:21.18 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2973254301 |
| 05:21.23 | TMc51 | aaaaaaand, thats why i stopped playing minecraft, crashtastic. |
| 05:21.45 | cogwheel | Sixen: ^ |
| 05:21.53 | Sixen | Mmm, yeah, I just read it |
| 05:22.04 | Sixen | I mean, they do have their hands full |
| 05:22.14 | Sixen | lots of WoW stuff, D3 coming very very soon, gamescom, blizzcon |
| 05:22.34 | cogwheel | click the Community link on any sc2 page |
| 05:22.47 | cogwheel | the featured stories are from around blizzcon time last year |
| 05:24.21 | Sixen | hm |
| 05:24.34 | Sixen | lol, the 2010 BlizzCon writing contest is still there when they just announced 2011 today :( |
| 05:24.46 | Xinhuan | wait are you mvp for sc2 forums or d3? lol |
| 05:24.55 | cogwheel | yes? |
| 05:26.08 | Sixen | I'm technically an SC2 MVP at this point in time |
| 05:26.14 | Sixen | technically |
| 05:26.22 | Sixen | as of right now |
| 05:26.23 | Xinhuan | you seem to be doing a lot more d3 stuff though |
| 05:26.31 | Sixen | D3 is better ;P |
| 05:26.33 | Xinhuan | or at least it seems that way |
| 05:26.45 | Sixen | well, atm there's just one D3 forum and everything is in one place |
| 05:26.53 | Sixen | There's really a tiny community on the D3 legacy forums |
| 05:27.05 | Sixen | on the SC2 forums I mainly post in the Custom Maps forums and a few QA/Support forums |
| 05:28.08 | Sixen | and then I post in the WoW QA forums ;) |
| 05:28.48 | kd3 | hahaha; http://i.imgur.com/ZDWPK.jpg |
| 05:29.01 | kd3 | nothing like a bad pun to go to sleep with |
| 05:29.29 | Sixen | how about a walk down memory lane? http://sixen.org/qa/findstickiesv5.jpg |
| 05:29.50 | Cairenn | kd3: ROFL |
| 05:29.51 | kd3 | oh wow, that is old |
| 05:29.59 | Sixen | I still have all of 'em there kd3, ;P. |
| 05:30.02 | Sixen | http://sixen.org/qa/ |
| 05:30.05 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:30.56 | cogwheel | Sixen: so yeah... y blizz no luff sc2 foramz? |
| 05:31.11 | Sixen | I agree with you Cog, moar blu is gud |
| 05:31.31 | Sixen | I wish we had an Editor QA guy in the Maps forums, like we (or you, w/e) used to have in the UI&M Forums |
| 05:31.34 | Sixen | i'm jelly |
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| 05:32.18 | cogwheel | NUH UH I met you and |Jelly|_ and your differn't! |
| 05:32.26 | Sixen | lol |
| 05:36.08 | bleeter | um... nsfw http://stilgherrian.com/only-one-name/right-google-you-stupid-cunts-this-is-simply-not-on/ |
| 05:38.23 | karl_w_w | good thing i woke up, 20 minutes later my ssd is delivered and no1 else is home :P |
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| 05:40.46 | Fisker | umad cogwheel ? |
| 05:40.58 | cogwheel | I AM SO MAD |
| 05:41.03 | Fisker | hey Sixen btw |
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| 05:43.35 | karl_w_w | Fisker complain to ocz for me |
| 05:44.25 | karl_w_w | this drive comes with a sticker that says "My SSD is faster than your HDD", but it doesn't come with a sata cable, meaning it couldn't possibly be any slower |
| 05:45.06 | kd3 | did you buy the oem sku instead of the retail one? |
| 05:45.25 | Fisker | most retail hdds don't come with cables either |
| 05:45.29 | cogwheel | would oem come with a sticker? |
| 05:45.31 | Fisker | because they assume you have a computer |
| 05:45.50 | cogwheel | but yeah that doesn't surprise me either |
| 05:45.51 | karl_w_w | a computer with random sata cables hanging around in it? o.O |
| 05:45.58 | cogwheel | i think they usually come with motherboards |
| 05:46.11 | cogwheel | i have craptons of them laying around |
| 05:46.31 | karl_w_w | i shall localte my spider infestec motherboard box |
| 05:46.45 | karl_w_w | im spelling goodly |
| 05:47.24 | kd3 | did you get bitten by a spider? |
| 05:47.36 | karl_w_w | not yet :P |
| 05:47.45 | cogwheel | i did. my foot has been itching for 2 days now |
| 05:50.57 | karl_w_w | nop, no spare sata cables |
| 05:51.58 | karl_w_w | mail me one of yours cogwheel :P |
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| 06:10.39 | Thunder_Child | just what i needed, a woot-off |
| 06:11.17 | karl_w_w | woot |
| 06:11.32 | kd3 | damn it |
| 06:11.39 | kd3 | watches his rss feed explode |
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| 06:41.15 | cogwheel | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20191-zoologger-the-hairy-beast-with-seven-fuzzy-sexes.html |
| 06:41.23 | cogwheel | (sfw) |
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| 06:50.09 | tekkub | Thunder_Child: http://www.mywoot.net/ |
| 06:50.14 | tekkub | their mini version is handy |
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| 06:53.08 | Thunder_Child | tekkub: i have a site like that, it was more about the not wanting to buy anything |
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| 07:02.50 | chat_doll | hello |
| 07:02.55 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 07:03.08 | Thunder_Child | uh oh |
| 07:03.40 | Cairenn | is still here |
| 07:04.17 | Thunder_Child | only for another hour |
| 07:04.33 | Cairenn | Most likely, yup |
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| 07:15.35 | TMc51 | bah, right after i put food into the oven, I start getting tired. T_T |
| 07:16.35 | zenzelezz | how long will it be in the oven? |
| 07:16.42 | TMc51 | half hour |
| 07:16.50 | zenzelezz | set an alarm; perfect power nap |
| 07:17.28 | airtonix | you should sleep in 1.5 hour blocks |
| 07:17.34 | TMc51 | nah, would be hard as hell to try taking a nap now, I just mixed some caffeine into my mountain dew. |
| 07:18.24 | zenzelezz | airtonix: I keep reading 1.5-2 hour blocks; the researchers don't seem to entirely agree which |
| 07:18.47 | airtonix | it's upto your own REM cycle is why |
| 07:18.53 | TMc51 | polyphasic sleep? |
| 07:19.00 | airtonix | i think |
| 07:19.32 | Thunder_Child | there is some watch that wakes you up when you are not in rem |
| 07:19.39 | airtonix | i've always noticed that waking up during a cycle is much harder than on the border of one |
| 07:20.37 | zenzelezz | that particular fact seems pretty well established in research |
| 07:20.57 | zenzelezz | they sell wristband-like devices that wake you up at an appropriate spot in your cycle |
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| 08:21.31 | karl_w_w | so i just dropped the paper case of a mini muffin on the ground and before I noticed the dog swallowed it whole |
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| 08:22.39 | TMc51 | that's going to be fun to clean up in a few hours. |
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| 08:26.57 | karl_w_w | interesting, just opened this new sata cable's packet and it already smells like the inside of my case |
| 08:28.04 | mikma | lol lol lol @ minecraft android version in android market |
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| 08:33.33 | mitch0 | mikma: ? |
| 08:34.03 | mikma | mitch0: . |
| 08:34.14 | mitch0 | pff |
| 08:34.32 | mitch0 | also, the g400 is cheaper than the mx518 |
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| 09:54.44 | harl | :) |
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| 10:35.41 | karl_w_w | huzzah |
| 10:36.23 | karl_w_w | hate reinstalling windows :( |
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| 11:17.25 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/PkYqG |
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| 12:20.23 | airtonix | karl_w_w: then don't |
| 12:20.58 | karl_w_w | new drive airtonix |
| 12:22.18 | airtonix | karl_w_w: your point is ? |
| 12:22.38 | airtonix | you have one right? |
| 12:22.44 | airtonix | :< |
| 12:23.24 | airtonix | karl_w_w: you don't *have* to make me sad you know |
| 12:23.28 | karl_w_w | it's a smaller drive and i dont have enough external storage to remove enough stuff from the old drive to shrink it enough to fit on the new drive |
| 12:23.39 | karl_w_w | so ner |
| 12:23.43 | airtonix | run on sentences... |
| 12:23.56 | karl_w_w | runs on airtonix's face |
| 12:24.10 | Maldivia | delete some shit then ? |
| 12:24.17 | karl_w_w | i did :P |
| 12:24.19 | airtonix | Maldivia: improsible |
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| 14:01.09 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:02.21 | cogwheel | realms are up but "login server is busy" ... just me? |
| 14:02.34 | Lunessa | It's Tuesday! |
| 14:02.43 | cogwheel | "realms are up" |
| 14:03.26 | Lunessa | Battle.net is offline for scheduled maintenance. So *shrug* |
| 14:03.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yea, but it's TUESDAY. :P |
| 14:03.36 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa and Cog-a-thingie. |
| 14:03.46 | karl_w_w | ~wowalert |
| 14:03.46 | purl | wowalert is, like, http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 14:03.47 | Lunessa | Herloo Lopeppeppy! |
| 14:03.50 | cogwheel | Lunessa: where are you seeing that? the websites are all up |
| 14:04.20 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/ - was giving me that error not 5 minutes ago, but now it loads. WTF |
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| 14:05.20 | airtonix | conspiracy time |
| 14:05.26 | airtonix | Lunessa: you go first |
| 14:06.06 | Lunessa | There's a great big bearded man in the sky who has 10 rules you have to follow or suffer enternally... But he *loves* you! |
| 14:06.31 | airtonix | sounds like a pedophile |
| 14:06.38 | Lunessa | Might as well get the big one out of the way. |
| 14:07.34 | cogwheel | here's one: blizzard hates the SC2 community! they're just greedy bastards who want all our money and don't care about making a good game or communicating with their customers. they just want to sell us moar expansions! |
| 14:08.00 | nevcairiel | there is a expansion? where?! |
| 14:08.31 | airtonix | ok next conspiracy |
| 14:08.38 | airtonix | the us actually has no debit |
| 14:08.42 | airtonix | go! |
| 14:09.47 | cogwheel | yeah huh! the debt is a ploy by the illuminati and freemasons to keep us all slaves to the man |
| 14:09.51 | airtonix | i guess that was too subtle |
| 14:10.23 | cogwheel | our money is backed by the government's guns and their ability to devalue our productivity |
| 14:10.31 | alestane | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1992 Why am I not surprised? |
| 14:10.39 | cogwheel | The 16th amendment enabling the income tax was never ratified! |
| 14:10.46 | airtonix | did you know john malkovich was in star trek |
| 14:12.45 | cogwheel | i have a friend who was on ST:TNG and she got wil wheaton grounded for staying out too late |
| 14:12.57 | airtonix | hoho |
| 14:13.17 | airtonix | by pulling down his pants and chaining him to the post office front door ? |
| 14:13.30 | cogwheel | something like that |
| 14:13.35 | airtonix | i see |
| 14:13.41 | cogwheel | (for broad definitions of "like") |
| 14:13.45 | airtonix | are you wil weaton? |
| 14:13.51 | cogwheel | i'm batman |
| 14:13.55 | airtonix | oh |
| 14:14.30 | airtonix | so you love spandex? |
| 14:14.48 | cogwheel | and makeup |
| 14:18.16 | cogwheel | kicks the login server in the chassis |
| 14:19.09 | airtonix | negative reinforcement leads to null values |
| 14:19.20 | alestane | I was logged in like half an hour ago, too. |
| 14:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | The beatings will continue until morale improves. |
| 14:19.42 | airtonix | unfocused positive reinforcement leads to hipsters and iphones |
| 14:19.44 | cogwheel | after turning in the 3 125-mark molten front quests are there any more steps? 'cause i should eb finished today if i can ever log in |
| 14:20.00 | cogwheel | airtonix: supposedly Pete & Pete led to hipsters |
| 14:20.13 | airtonix | no it was a lab accident |
| 14:20.21 | airtonix | too much ethel hydride |
| 14:20.36 | alestane | That's when you get the achievement, cog, and if there's anything else I haven't seen it yet. |
| 14:20.49 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3300853#blog - Cross-realm herocis... go go go |
| 14:21.08 | foxlit | "Weâll be back soon!" |
| 14:21.08 | airtonix | Lunessa: oh joy, more derpn herpn jerks |
| 14:21.28 | cogwheel | airtonix: wat |
| 14:21.30 | Lunessa | Wow. You have herks on your Real ID? |
| 14:21.31 | airtonix | Lunessa: be prepared for more votekick lulz |
| 14:21.49 | foxlit | it's, ahem, free? |
| 14:21.59 | Lunessa | Yeah. Shocker. |
| 14:22.09 | foxlit | inconceivable! |
| 14:22.30 | Lunessa | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 14:22.41 | cogwheel | anybody want a peanut? |
| 14:22.56 | airtonix | no |
| 14:23.19 | foxlit | Lunessa: "keep"? |
| 14:23.37 | cogwheel | also i was 65% srs about blizzard hating the sc2 community (the 35% cuts it back from "hating" to "willfully ignoring") |
| 14:23.49 | airtonix | so really ? |
| 14:23.56 | Lunessa | foxlit: Don't ruin a good Princess Bride reference by interjecting facts. |
| 14:24.33 | foxlit | cogwheel: I'm blissfully unaware of any issues with sc2 |
| 14:24.39 | airtonix | same here |
| 14:24.48 | airtonix | except that it costs money |
| 14:24.55 | airtonix | and doesn't run on linux |
| 14:25.05 | foxlit | it costs money once |
| 14:25.10 | airtonix | yes |
| 14:25.13 | airtonix | that iss a problem |
| 14:25.30 | foxlit | off to #firstworldproblems |
| 14:25.37 | Lunessa | Once a company has tasted the sweet fruit of subscription revenue forever will it dominate their destiny! |
| 14:25.38 | airtonix | i trust your imagination can solve this |
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| 14:26.50 | Fisker | haha |
| 14:26.59 | Fisker | so Blizzard backed down on making the real id invites premium? |
| 14:27.10 | cogwheel | they never said they would |
| 14:27.13 | cogwheel | they left the option open |
| 14:27.15 | cogwheel | and still have imo |
| 14:27.26 | foxlit | but anyway, "friends" |
| 14:27.30 | airtonix | where? |
| 14:27.31 | Fisker | they initially said it would have a premium cogwheel |
| 14:27.33 | Lunessa | Q: Will any future aspects of the Real ID Party system be premium-based? |
| 14:27.33 | Lunessa | A: It's always possible that we'll add features and functionality that could have a premium component, but we don't have any specific details to share at this time. |
| 14:27.36 | Fisker | they didn't just leave it open |
| 14:27.38 | foxlit | the feature is useless, I tell you. USELESS! |
| 14:27.42 | cogwheel | hmm... miki got into wow. guess it's reboot time |
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| 14:28.00 | Fisker | they specifically said it would have a yet unannounced premium added because it was a "convenience" feature |
| 14:28.54 | Fisker | As this is a fairly complex service to develop, we donât have a release date to share quite yet. Itâs important to note that as with some of the other convenience- and connectivity-oriented features we offer, certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based, though only the player sending the invitations will need to have access to the premium service |
| 14:28.59 | Fisker | i lol'd at the first part |
| 14:29.03 | airtonix | tl;dr |
| 14:29.06 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.12 | Fisker | second* |
| 14:29.16 | airtonix | third? |
| 14:29.20 | Fisker | your mom |
| 14:29.24 | airtonix | your face |
| 14:29.45 | Fisker | get it cogwheel ? |
| 14:29.50 | airtonix | no he doesn't |
| 14:29.51 | Fisker | inviting people cross-realm was hard |
| 14:30.12 | Fisker | basically i think Blizzard is just like |
| 14:30.31 | Fisker | "Oh lets try do something stupid, and if they dig it, then we have a premium service" |
| 14:30.34 | cogwheel | i didn't get it 'cause i was rebooting |
| 14:30.48 | Fisker | "As this is a fairly complex service to develop, we donât have a release date to share quite yet. Itâs important to note that as with some of the other convenience- and connectivity-oriented features we offer, certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based, though only the player sending the invitations will need to have access to the premium service" |
| 14:30.58 | nevcairiel | I'm sure it wasn't easy to implement it |
| 14:31.11 | Fisker | i'm sure it was |
| 14:31.13 | Stanzilla | the button? |
| 14:31.26 | Fisker | They can already invite people through whatever mechanics allow LFD grouping |
| 14:31.32 | Stanzilla | because everything else was already there I think^^ |
| 14:32.02 | Fisker | infact the feature is so hacked together they didn't even bother making a graceful error handling of trying to invite someone cross-faction |
| 14:32.09 | Fisker | they simply "decline" the invite for him |
| 14:32.15 | Fisker | rather than saying you can't invite that player |
| 14:32.39 | Fisker | exactly Stanzilla |
| 14:32.46 | nevcairiel | I always love when people speculate how easy something is to implement, especially when they have no clue about the application in question, or programming skills in general. :D |
| 14:32.47 | Fisker | everything was there, except maybe handling cross-faction invites |
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| 14:33.01 | Fisker | i have a clue about the second part |
| 14:33.25 | Fisker | and i always love when people speculate how hard something is to implement, especially when they have no clue about the application in question, or programming skills in general. :D |
| 14:33.39 | Lunessa | The words I always dreaded hearing from a user or project manager "This seems like a simple feature i=to implement." |
| 14:34.09 | nevcairiel | Its generally always harder to implement something then people assume it is, its usually never easier. :P |
| 14:34.37 | foxlit | "generally always" |
| 14:34.50 | Fisker | at worst i'm simplifying the invite process a bit, everything else was in the game already |
| 14:35.02 | foxlit | and "usually never" |
| 14:35.21 | foxlit | Those would make for some awesome temporal logic operators |
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| 14:43.25 | airtonix | <conspiracy theory gong sound/> |
| 14:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | Today is national rum day! Drink up me hearties, yo ho! |
| 14:43.41 | airtonix | no |
| 14:44.05 | airtonix | it's "Inter-National Let's Play Conspiracy Theory Day" |
| 14:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | Rum is a conspiracy! |
| 14:45.27 | airtonix | i teabag you |
| 14:45.57 | Fisker | i hate you sylvanaar ! |
| 14:46.14 | sylvanaar_work | haha, I was waiting for you to say something |
| 14:48.10 | Fisker | i should get free curse points |
| 14:48.19 | Fisker | both Shadowed and Antiarc stole my idea! |
| 14:48.27 | Fisker | i should patent it |
| 14:48.32 | Fisker | and sue curse for curse points |
| 14:49.04 | airtonix | umad? |
| 14:49.38 | sylvanaar_work | oh I thought you were talking about me beating your score at diamond dash Fisker |
| 14:49.58 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:50.09 | Lunessa | Here - plenty of hate-filled talking points for everyone! http://blog.hunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Hunch-Droid-vs-iOS.768.png |
| 14:50.16 | bleeter | beats Fisker with a very large trout |
| 14:53.22 | airtonix | kill |
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| 14:53.45 | Fisker | i raged irl Lunessa |
| 14:53.52 | airtonix | Lunessa: irrelevant data |
| 14:54.15 | Lunessa | airtonix: I was merely amused at their data-mining efforts. |
| 14:55.48 | airtonix | clearly troll data |
| 14:56.13 | airtonix | lol |
| 14:56.21 | airtonix | 100% more likely to be mac users |
| 14:56.25 | airtonix | yeahhhhhhhh |
| 14:56.29 | airtonix | gtfo |
| 14:58.46 | Lunessa | Like I said, I can't imagine that their analysis was very rigorous. |
| 14:59.30 | karl_w_w | airtonix check if http://3fl.net.au/ is up for me <3 |
| 15:00.00 | airtonix | Lunessa: the small print confirms it |
| 15:00.17 | airtonix | if the stupidity of the data points didn't already |
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| 15:00.42 | [Wobin] | karl_w_w: it's not up for you |
| 15:00.53 | airtonix | hoho |
| 15:00.54 | [Wobin] | else you'd not be asking |
| 15:01.01 | airtonix | isup.me |
| 15:01.09 | karl_w_w | :( |
| 15:01.21 | [Wobin] | ps wfm |
| 15:01.23 | karl_w_w | tried that already |
| 15:01.31 | airtonix | umad? |
| 15:01.38 | Lunessa | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2011/08/16/businessinsider-google-is-now-larry-page-incorporated-2011-8.DTL |
| 15:06.00 | airtonix | Lunessa: what's the point of that article? |
| 15:06.09 | airtonix | i read it and there was no punchline |
| 15:06.19 | Lunessa | The article IS the punch line |
| 15:06.56 | karl_w_w | well who wants to buy a bunch of patents when you can just buy the company that owns them? |
| 15:06.59 | karl_w_w | honestly |
| 15:07.19 | karl_w_w | you gotta simplify things people |
| 15:11.10 | Dagmar | Is that reporter a freshman or what? Google kinda left DoubleClick in their dust back in 2001 |
| 15:15.31 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3300853 |
| 15:15.32 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:15.39 | airtonix | karl_w_w: lawl 3fl. telstra sucks bawls |
| 15:16.01 | karl_w_w | it's got nothing to do with telstra? |
| 15:16.38 | [Wobin] | bluspacecow: hah, so it's not going to be a paid-for feature |
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| 15:16.59 | bluspacecow | people really need to pay attention to teh actual language blizzard used |
| 15:17.05 | bluspacecow | and not the re-interpreation of it |
| 15:17.07 | bluspacecow | to wit |
| 15:17.15 | bluspacecow | "aspects of teh service may be premium based" |
| 15:17.26 | bluspacecow | doesn't necessarily imply it would be a paid service |
| 15:17.32 | [Wobin] | they say that now |
| 15:17.38 | bluspacecow | no |
| 15:17.38 | [Wobin] | I'm fairly sure they were considering it earlier |
| 15:17.50 | bluspacecow | thats what they said when they told us of it coming |
| 15:18.06 | bluspacecow | "certain aspects may have a premium component" |
| 15:18.14 | [Wobin] | then it's also Blizzard's fault for not being more clear, cause that's entirely the impression that I got, as a casual user |
| 15:18.50 | karl_w_w | I'm almost certain they planned on making it paid and then changed their minds during the fallout. |
| 15:18.53 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 15:18.58 | [Wobin] | what karl_w_w said |
| 15:19.25 | karl_w_w | wonder what the original wording was |
| 15:19.30 | mikma | wowbot: <karl_w_w> I'm almost certain they planned on making it paid and then changed their minds during the fallout. |
| 15:19.48 | mikma | s/wowbot/wobin/ |
| 15:20.11 | karl_w_w | wha |
| 15:20.11 | Lunessa | Hrm. Flash player needed an update. *curses adobe to the hell where people are drown upside down* |
| 15:20.16 | [Wobin] | Q: Will aspects of the Real ID Party system be premium-based? |
| 15:20.16 | [Wobin] | We'll have information on this toward the end of the testing period. |
| 15:20.24 | [Wobin] | ie, they didn't flat out say no |
| 15:20.28 | bluspacecow | exactly |
| 15:20.29 | [Wobin] | they didn't flat out say yes |
| 15:20.32 | bluspacecow | "aspects" |
| 15:20.37 | karl_w_w | exactly |
| 15:20.39 | bluspacecow | implys there may be a free aspect to the service |
| 15:20.46 | bluspacecow | and a premium aspect |
| 15:20.47 | karl_w_w | but now, no aspects of it are paid, and testing is over |
| 15:20.47 | [Wobin] | so, by doing so, they implied there's a -paid- aspect to the service |
| 15:20.51 | nevcairiel | and still premium aspects to come |
| 15:20.54 | karl_w_w | implying they changed their mind |
| 15:20.58 | [Wobin] | ^ |
| 15:21.10 | [Wobin] | anyway, who cares =P |
| 15:21.17 | [Wobin] | Blizzard changed their minds, so what? |
| 15:21.22 | [Wobin] | they're allowed to do that =P |
| 15:21.22 | Lunessa | There are plenty of premium features. Remote guild chat, remote auction house. |
| 15:21.46 | [Wobin] | just don't deny -that- they did change their minds |
| 15:21.57 | bluspacecow | well |
| 15:21.58 | [Wobin] | and get narky on the precise interpretation of the wording |
| 15:22.16 | [Wobin] | cause omg, Blizzard is infallable? |
| 15:22.23 | Lunessa | They're permitted. I don't get why people are upset that it's a free feature instead of a pay feature though. |
| 15:22.24 | bluspacecow | well |
| 15:22.26 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 15:22.36 | karl_w_w | people are upset? |
| 15:22.37 | bluspacecow | they never released exatly what those premium aspects were |
| 15:22.38 | [Wobin] | Lunessa: are they upset? |
| 15:22.39 | bluspacecow | we all assumed |
| 15:22.52 | [Wobin] | bluspacecow: and now you're splitting hairs about the wording |
| 15:22.56 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: maybe people wanted to be special by paying, and now every kid can have it! |
| 15:22.56 | [Wobin] | the wording doesn't -matter- |
| 15:23.01 | Lunessa | People are vetching in here about it... which makes me assume that they're butt-hurt somehow. |
| 15:23.02 | bluspacecow | so how can we say they changed their minds if it was never confirmed exactly what they meant by it |
| 15:23.04 | [Wobin] | they changed their minds |
| 15:23.08 | [Wobin] | hurrah! |
| 15:23.16 | [Wobin] | it's now essentially free! |
| 15:23.23 | [Wobin] | lets move on =P |
| 15:23.36 | mikma | what is |
| 15:23.38 | [Wobin] | bluspacecow: no one cares =P |
| 15:23.44 | Lunessa | Wobin: Stop making sense. I mean, this the INTERNET. |
| 15:24.16 | [Wobin] | Lunessa: oh. ARgle blart. BLAAAAAAM THIS REAL ID! ALL YOU CAN UPGRADE IS STRANGTH? |
| 15:24.24 | karl_w_w | man cataclysm takes a long time to install |
| 15:24.27 | airtonix | god dammit man |
| 15:24.51 | airtonix | i will dot dot dot you in a minute |
| 15:24.56 | [Wobin] | heheh |
| 15:24.58 | Lunessa | Wobin: You win +1 Internets, and a cookie. |
| 15:25.08 | mikma | teh only real id i have is my fake id |
| 15:25.11 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.22 | bluspacecow | i'm just saying that the premium aspect people were worreid about isn't necessarily the service being paid for at all ... in fact the faq still alludes to a coming premium aspect. |
| 15:25.46 | airtonix | new premium feature: you can login |
| 15:25.49 | bluspacecow | actually now that i read the faq again |
| 15:25.53 | bluspacecow | forget that |
| 15:26.03 | bluspacecow | "It's always possible that we'll add features and functionality that could have a premium component, but we don't have any specific details to share at this time." |
| 15:26.08 | Lunessa | The FAQ leaves them the option of finding new ways to get you to give them monies. |
| 15:26.18 | karl_w_w | bastards! |
| 15:26.47 | Lunessa | I mean, really it's not like they promised us blow-jobs and a chicken in every pot. |
| 15:26.58 | bluspacecow | notice how their langauge changed ? from "we have this elephant in the next room but we're not going to tell you what it is" to "it's possible there may be a large elephjant in the next room but we'll let you know" |
| 15:27.05 | [Wobin] | that might be awkward. I mean, the chicken would be watching. |
| 15:27.15 | karl_w_w | nice, just spend 24 minutes apparently doing an avast update and at the end it says "already up to date" |
| 15:27.16 | Lunessa | Wobin: Live a little. |
| 15:27.35 | [Wobin] | Lunessa: I can do without voyuer chickens going cluck at inopportune moments |
| 15:27.38 | bluspacecow | i know wobin ! |
| 15:27.44 | bluspacecow | they saw the QQ on the D3 RMAH AH |
| 15:27.52 | bluspacecow | and went "we betta make this one free!" |
| 15:28.10 | Lunessa | Wobin: Well, what if it were a hot girl in a chicken suit? |
| 15:28.24 | [Wobin] | is conflicted |
| 15:28.31 | Lunessa | WIN |
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| 15:30.33 | karl_w_w | hands Lunessa the win cookies |
| 15:31.03 | [Wobin] | It reminds me of a video I saw, of a man in a chicken costume, playing the ukelele and whistling the Whistle Stop from Disney's Robin Hood, while having 'relations' with his wife. |
| 15:31.16 | karl_w_w | that's deep man |
| 15:31.24 | Lopeppeppy | Any girl in a chicken suit is going to get hot quickly. |
| 15:31.57 | [Wobin] | not with proper venting, surely |
| 15:32.08 | Lunessa | Wobin: You're browsing some odd sites. |
| 15:32.11 | [Wobin] | also, how do you know it's a hot girl? |
| 15:32.22 | [Wobin] | those chicken suits appear to be pretty all encompassing |
| 15:32.32 | [Wobin] | Lunessa: I think it was a tv ad |
| 15:32.58 | karl_w_w | you're watching some odd stations |
| 15:33.09 | Lunessa | Wow. This is one of the side-effects of not living in the US. You get TV shows where people are having relaitions. |
| 15:33.29 | karl_w_w | perish the thought |
| 15:34.00 | [Wobin] | I don't want to be crass =( |
| 15:34.13 | Lunessa | Good call. |
| 15:35.21 | eXemplar | so I'm playing with the alpha on the ChatFrame and whenever any new lines are added the alpha of the icons (ie, raid icons, bnet/game icons) resets to fully visible until I set the alpha of the ChatFrame again |
| 15:35.40 | eXemplar | anyone know what would cause that, or if there's anything I can do to stop the icons resetting their alpha? |
| 15:36.03 | eXemplar | same thing seems to happen for the minimap and tracking+quest icons |
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| 15:36.57 | Lunessa | This is because the frame gets redrawn when new data is added - you need to do your magic when those events happen - whichever they happen to be. |
| 15:37.45 | [Wobin] | hahaha http://android-press-release.com/ |
| 15:37.46 | eXemplar | ah true, so I should hook the onupdate (or whichever it is) in the frames and go from there? |
| 15:38.29 | Lunessa | OnUpdates are CPU expensive. If you can avoid doing it OnUpdate, do. |
| 15:39.48 | Kraps_w | why is che guvera so popular in the us? |
| 15:40.21 | Lunessa | Kraps: Because some very strange-thinking people use him as a marketing icon. |
| 15:40.28 | eXemplar | ok, well I could probably check something else for the chatframe as it only happens when new lines are added, but i'm not sure if I can get around it for the minimap - thanks for your help Lunessa |
| 15:40.41 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 15:42.12 | Lopeppeppy | Revolutionaries are awesome marketing posters? |
| 15:42.22 | Kraps_w | for the same money you could use Abraham Lincoln, and he has a sweet hat |
| 15:43.15 | Lunessa | Also, 90% of the kids wearing Che-emblazoned merchandise have no clue who he was. |
| 15:43.40 | durcyn | 90 seems low. |
| 15:44.00 | Lunessa | I was erring on the side of people looking stuff up. |
| 15:44.45 | Lunessa | And using Che for capitalistic purposes is the very definition of irony. |
| 15:44.54 | Kraps_w | heh |
| 15:49.11 | Kraps_w | great, now they're about eating bugs |
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| 15:52.54 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:53.05 | Fisker | wanna buy a 4GB USB stick for 69$? |
| 15:53.22 | karl_w_w | gives Fisker a funny look |
| 15:53.43 | Stanzilla | Fisker: does it look like a lion? |
| 15:54.41 | Lunessa | Kraps: http://rumplo.com/tees/tee/2185-i-have-no-idea-who-this-is-che-guevara-t+shirt |
| 15:55.04 | Fisker | i don't think so Stanzilla |
| 15:55.09 | Fisker | but it does have lion on it |
| 15:56.30 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 15:56.33 | Kraps_w | why would they let a vegan onto a show about eating animals? |
| 15:57.09 | karl_w_w | intervention? |
| 15:57.24 | Kraps_w | heh |
| 15:57.33 | Fisker | i know you know Stanzilla |
| 15:57.41 | Kraps_w | no, he just said "derp its wrong" |
| 15:57.54 | Stanzilla | good to know that you know that I know Fisker |
| 16:00.17 | Kraps_w | Lunessa: that shirt is boss |
| 16:01.29 | Fisker | farts |
| 16:08.44 | Jamash | soup brah |
| 16:10.01 | Kraps_w | arabian nights, like arabian days |
| 16:11.06 | foxlit | teehee |
| 16:11.11 | foxlit | "The threat generated by classes in their tanking mode has been increased from three times damage done to five times damage done." |
| 16:11.18 | Jamash | zamg |
| 16:11.36 | Jamash | inb4ezmode |
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| 16:11.52 | Kraps_w | time to restart my sub i think |
| 16:11.53 | Lopeppeppy | More often than not, are hotter than hot, in a lot of good waaaaaays. |
| 16:12.54 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u peppy |
| 16:12.56 | Kraps_w | :D |
| 16:13.29 | bluspacecow | i r sad peppy |
| 16:13.39 | Kraps_w | had it on VHS |
| 16:15.06 | Lopeppeppy | Why-for sadness? |
| 16:15.14 | bluspacecow | there's this thread |
| 16:15.47 | bluspacecow | where one poster won't just keep defining and redefining what is or is not a mac virus/malware/worm |
| 16:15.54 | bluspacecow | longer after anyone's cared |
| 16:16.09 | Lopeppeppy | Why-for you keep reading if you just don't care? |
| 16:16.12 | bluspacecow | the horse is dead a long time ago ! why won;t you let the poor horsie die ? |
| 16:16.26 | foxlit | Hey, Fisker |
| 16:16.33 | foxlit | If you need a hero, what's a name you should know? |
| 16:16.35 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 16:16.35 | bluspacecow | i foolishly subscribed after answering someones querie on the thread |
| 16:16.40 | Fisker | Fisker ? |
| 16:16.42 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 16:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. Unsub you must, before insane you go. |
| 16:17.36 | bluspacecow | b-b-but the poor horsie |
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| 16:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | Sweetheart, the internet horsie is already dead. Come away, it doesn't matter anymore what they do with it. |
| 16:18.00 | bluspacecow | i must defend the poor dead horse from people beating on it ! |
| 16:18.03 | Jamash | the thumbs down button exists for a reason |
| 16:18.49 | foxlit | what's a querie? |
| 16:18.52 | Mr_Rabies | ugh, that watercooler on threat |
| 16:19.01 | Mr_Rabies | feral druids are gonna be all messed up again |
| 16:19.19 | Jamash | how so? |
| 16:19.36 | Mr_Rabies | because we'll have insane threat until we get nerfed like heck |
| 16:19.45 | bluspacecow | its when someone asks a question strapped to a coconut strapped to smalle ferret called george |
| 16:20.14 | airtonix | strapped to a small dung beetle called bob |
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| 16:20.33 | Kraps_w | bears need to learn to strap shields onto their face |
| 16:20.44 | Jamash | okami showed the way |
| 16:20.45 | airtonix | why? |
| 16:20.50 | airtonix | mages are fine |
| 16:20.58 | airtonix | nothing needs fixing |
| 16:21.14 | Lunessa | foxlit: Bonnie Tyler? |
| 16:21.15 | Jamash | amaterasu had no prob wielding a shield, and she was in the form of a wolf |
| 16:21.30 | foxlit | super robot monkey team hyperforce go. |
| 16:21.42 | airtonix | BANZAI! |
| 16:21.42 | foxlit | what's wrong with you people?! :P |
| 16:22.06 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCOPuGBg_W0 |
| 16:22.34 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2NEbuy_be8 |
| 16:22.39 | Kraps_w | go go power rangers? |
| 16:22.47 | airtonix | gogo gadget? |
| 16:23.04 | bluspacecow | MUPPET RANGERS GO! |
| 16:23.32 | Kraps_w | autobots engage |
| 16:24.04 | Lunessa | I feel like I just dropped a hit of acid and four tablets of speed at once. |
| 16:24.44 | Kraps_w | CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS! |
| 16:24.50 | Kraps_w | ...shit |
| 16:25.21 | Jamash | ONE OF US |
| 16:25.33 | Lunessa | Join us, Michael. |
| 16:25.43 | Kraps_w | why wub woo |
| 16:26.17 | Lunessa | ... did none of you children see "Lost Boys"? |
| 16:26.28 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/cf.jpg |
| 16:26.55 | alestane | Not recently enough, Lunessa, and for the most part I kep tgetting exposed to it in fragments. |
| 16:27.22 | Lunessa | alestane: It is one of the best vampire movies EVER. |
| 16:27.33 | Kraps_w | Lunessa: its kind of on the back of my to watch list, and only because kiefer sutherland is in it |
| 16:27.38 | Lunessa | Also, foxlit I think that hurts my brian. |
| 16:27.39 | alestane | I have seen most parts of it. Just not continuously. |
| 16:27.58 | Lunessa | Kraps_w: It has the Two Corys in it. |
| 16:28.02 | foxlit | Lunessa: the edit boxes with varying widths? |
| 16:28.08 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: ive seen it |
| 16:28.21 | Lunessa | foxlit: yes. |
| 16:28.28 | foxlit | Those are howwible |
| 16:28.44 | foxlit | But there's no escaping them -- either one is going to be obscenely large, or the other is going to be obscenely small |
| 16:28.52 | Lunessa | Yeah. :/ |
| 16:29.24 | Lunessa | Also, I don't want to know what "bear" is in a bottle. That sounds like a Tekkub product. |
| 16:30.05 | Jamash | that screenshot is on drugs |
| 16:30.16 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/190984/dev-watercooler-threat-level-midnight |
| 16:30.22 | Stanzilla | ./facepalm |
| 16:30.54 | Jamash | I agree 100% with ghostie on this one |
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| 16:32.32 | Kraps_w | "page 3 of 2" what sorcery is this?! |
| 16:33.01 | Jamash | lawl |
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| 16:33.31 | Lunessa | "We want threat stats to be interesting, but the reality is that they arenât. Any decent tank will usually choose survivability stats over threat stats. " Dear god is this true. |
| 16:33.44 | Seerah | yes |
| 16:34.05 | Seerah | I was reading up on EJ again last night and fiddling with Mid |
| 16:34.47 | Lunessa | Ansoul can't hit the broad side of a barn from inside... but he's pretty decent as a tank thanks to stacking the other stats. |
| 16:34.50 | Arrowmaster | wow back when i played they took the threat stats/talents |
| 16:34.59 | Stanzilla | yeah that made getting aggro difficult for the first 20 seconds of the fight or so |
| 16:35.04 | Jamash | "the Real ID Party system ... makes it easier than ever for real-life friends to play together, and it's available to all World of Warcraft players at no additional charge" :-O |
| 16:35.04 | Stanzilla | now it's a cakewalk all the time |
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| 16:35.53 | Kraps_w | Jamash: omg yay! |
| 16:36.06 | Seerah | I still have issues with threat in PUGs. stupid hunter or druid doing 13k dps wanting to attack a random mob over and over again... my taunts go on cooldown and I can't get them back |
| 16:36.13 | Seerah | Jamash: :D |
| 16:36.21 | foxlit | Seerah: you taunt things? |
| 16:36.21 | Jamash | hunters that draw aggro are Doing It Wrong |
| 16:36.23 | pompy | Parnic: oh hey http://gamerant.com/borderlands-2-teaser-trailer-tao-100229/ :) |
| 16:36.26 | foxlit | Why would you ever do that? |
| 16:36.27 | Parnic | :) |
| 16:36.35 | Seerah | foxlit: I yell "na-na-na-boo-boo!" |
| 16:36.38 | Jamash | my main is a hunter, and threat is my bitch |
| 16:37.13 | Lunessa | Seerah has a DK tank. She does ok. : ) |
| 16:37.23 | foxlit | Jamash: excuse me while I multi-shot misdirect this pack onto a rogue. |
| 16:37.30 | Seerah | hehe |
| 16:37.38 | Jamash | foxlit: good times |
| 16:37.44 | Stanzilla | I do that! |
| 16:37.51 | Stanzilla | and tricks on the healer, too |
| 16:38.12 | Lunessa | I was doing that the other night on my hunter to a mage who was being a douche. |
| 16:38.16 | Kraps_w | i hope all your toons die in a fire |
| 16:38.36 | Mr_Rabies | <@Seerah> I still have issues with threat in PUGs. |
| 16:38.51 | Lunessa | I never said anything either. I just pushed the buttons and cut loose on big threat. |
| 16:39.12 | foxlit | teehee, a 378 cloak with a 306 headpiece |
| 16:39.17 | foxlit | such stark contrasts |
| 16:39.23 | Mr_Rabies | at this point i intentionally attack what the tank isn't attacking, so that my bleeds will have maximum damage |
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| 16:39.29 | Mr_Rabies | i'd pull threat off of what he was attacking anyway |
| 16:39.35 | Mr_Rabies | might as well drop it quickly |
| 16:39.36 | Seerah | foxlit: is it the freebie Thrall cloak? |
| 16:39.44 | foxlit | 365 |
| 16:39.47 | foxlit | know your item levels :) |
| 16:40.03 | Seerah | bah |
| 16:40.05 | Mr_Rabies | but i don't really have a high risk of dying from it, and if i do die, i'll blame no one but myself |
| 16:40.15 | Seerah | firelands friendly cloak? :P |
| 16:40.33 | foxlit | yep |
| 16:40.46 | foxlit | so I joined a 25man ICC heroic pug |
| 16:40.49 | Seerah | I got that in one run |
| 16:40.55 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not sure i like these changes though |
| 16:40.57 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 16:41.00 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
| 16:41.03 | Fisker | not so hey Lunessa |
| 16:41.04 | Mr_Rabies | threat and cc no longer being an issue is really, really worrying |
| 16:41.04 | Seerah | hey Fisker |
| 16:41.21 | Lunessa | CC is still an issue. |
| 16:41.24 | Jamash | ^ |
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| 16:41.28 | Mr_Rabies | i'll see how the threat change works out, but i don't like that cc's basically completely risk-free |
| 16:41.37 | Jamash | It isn't |
| 16:41.47 | Mr_Rabies | in pve it is |
| 16:41.47 | Seerah | I'm guessing I missed something this morning :p |
| 16:41.49 | Jamash | you can still break cc with careless aoe |
| 16:42.15 | Mr_Rabies | sure, it's not as bad as wrath yet but still |
| 16:42.21 | Mr_Rabies | no sir, i don't like it |
| 16:42.35 | Jamash | here's the thing: Wrath was too easy, but it was also more fun than cata |
| 16:42.43 | Mr_Rabies | not for me, at all |
| 16:42.49 | foxlit | threat is basically not fun |
| 16:42.53 | Mr_Rabies | wrath was awful |
| 16:43.03 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: and how far are you in heroic firelands? |
| 16:43.21 | Mr_Rabies | nowhere yet, but pretty soon we'll be moving into heroics |
| 16:43.29 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> so I joined a 25man ICC heroic pug <- and? :o |
| 16:43.36 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: I thought pve was easymode |
| 16:43.40 | foxlit | I'll keep you posted |
| 16:43.47 | Jamash | why don't you have heroic rag down yet? |
| 16:43.50 | foxlit | In deathwhisper's room at the moment |
| 16:43.58 | foxlit | haven't started pulling. Not too impressed. |
| 16:44.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not talking raids, jamash |
| 16:44.12 | Mr_Rabies | raids are a totally different beast |
| 16:44.14 | karl_w_w | if you can't kill lk tell the leader to read wowhead |
| 16:44.22 | Jamash | I liked the fact that I could play wow as a game during wrath |
| 16:44.27 | Jamash | as opposed to a job |
| 16:44.31 | Kraps_w | ^ |
| 16:44.33 | Mr_Rabies | though firelands is pretty easy so far |
| 16:44.37 | foxlit | I'm not sure I expect a pug to kill LK heroic |
| 16:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | we'll get fandral down this week probably |
| 16:44.59 | karl_w_w | except it's really easy, as I explained on wowhead :P |
| 16:45.10 | Kraps_w | what really killed wow for me was the stupid disc shield nerfs |
| 16:45.13 | foxlit | it'll probably scrape enough DPS to pass the checks, but my instinct is that stuff like defile is going to kill people |
| 16:45.14 | Jamash | I haven't even bothered doing the 4.1 heroics because heroics are such a chore |
| 16:45.18 | Mr_Rabies | if we didn't have all kinds of crap changing our roster every week we'd be further than we are |
| 16:45.24 | Mr_Rabies | really, jamash? |
| 16:45.27 | foxlit | disc priest shields were clearly unbalanced. |
| 16:45.27 | Jamash | Kraps_w: agree 100% on disc nerfs |
| 16:45.44 | Mr_Rabies | it's like 45 minutes for a zandalari heroic |
| 16:46.17 | Jamash | Mr_Rabies: Let me rephrase that: I stopped doing dungeons entirely, and playing wow except for dailies around 4.1 because heroics are such a chore |
| 16:46.34 | Seerah | I haven't done them either. Actually... I tried to do one once, but the group wanted the fast run and fell apart. |
| 16:46.39 | Mr_Rabies | well then you're getting burned out on it |
| 16:46.43 | Jamash | chore = not fun |
| 16:46.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's not a chore, though |
| 16:46.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's actually fun again |
| 16:46.59 | Jamash | heroics in wrath were stupid easy, but at least it was fun |
| 16:47.03 | Mr_Rabies | tbh a little too easy now that everyone outgears them |
| 16:47.04 | Lunessa | Seerah: Unkle needs lots of orbs, so I'll do heroics with you. On non-raid nights |
| 16:47.07 | Mr_Rabies | wrath heroics weren't fun at all to me |
| 16:47.18 | Jamash | maybe they need a third difficulty :P |
| 16:47.24 | Seerah | Lunessa: zandalar ones? |
| 16:47.27 | Jamash | normal, nightmare, hell anyone? |
| 16:47.38 | Mr_Rabies | i think they just need to keep casuals in normals, and leave heroics heroic |
| 16:47.44 | Lunessa | Seerah: Yes. Just expect runs to be 1 hour each if we go slow. :) |
| 16:47.58 | Seerah | yeah... that's another reason why I hadn't bothered for a while :D |
| 16:48.15 | Lunessa | 'Normal', 'Heroic', 'No Lube'. |
| 16:48.21 | Kraps_w | crap, remembering the fun disc used to be makes my heart hurt :( |
| 16:48.26 | Mr_Rabies | i liked BC heroic difficulty |
| 16:48.30 | Mr_Rabies | ZA and ZG aren't hard at all, they just take time to clear because of how huge they are, as big raid instances |
| 16:48.38 | Jamash | I miss karazhan |
| 16:48.50 | Seerah | heh... they were raid instances :) |
| 16:48.57 | Jamash | actually I miss UBRS and I never thought I'd say that |
| 16:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | the terrain didn't change much at all, though |
| 16:49.10 | Seerah | kiting Drak? ;) |
| 16:49.23 | karl_w_w | WHA |
| 16:49.26 | Jamash | kiting drak... INTO LORD VALTHALAK |
| 16:49.26 | Arrowmaster | i miss old UBRS |
| 16:49.32 | karl_w_w | windows 7 has a "GodMode" |
| 16:49.33 | Jamash | YEAH |
| 16:49.42 | Seerah | karl_w_w: wha? |
| 16:49.46 | Mr_Rabies | so the other option was removing so much trash the instance would be empty |
| 16:49.56 | karl_w_w | make a folder and name it GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C} |
| 16:50.02 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 16:50.06 | Mr_Rabies | gives you all the os shortcuts |
| 16:50.08 | Mr_Rabies | owns :D |
| 16:50.36 | Arrowmaster | back when UBRS was still 15 man, we were doing a 10 man run of it at the same time that a group from the top guild on the server was did their first 3 man run |
| 16:51.28 | Mr_Rabies | i think we'll see ahn'qiraj pretty soon in some form or fashion |
| 16:51.39 | Mr_Rabies | so far we've seen redone bwl, redone mc |
| 16:52.09 | Mr_Rabies | redone zg ofc |
| 16:52.10 | Ackis | Mr_Rabies: redone ZA/ZG too |
| 16:52.12 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 16:52.24 | Jamash | the reason I bring up kara/ubrs is that I miss having a stepping-stone instance |
| 16:52.36 | Mr_Rabies | i'd like an onyxia style raid for cata |
| 16:52.43 | Mr_Rabies | just a boss in a room |
| 16:52.52 | Jamash | well, there is, but it's called brutallus 2.0 |
| 16:53.52 | Mr_Rabies | i mean i guess BH kinda counts that way |
| 16:54.02 | Jamash | I mean Algaloth |
| 16:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | it's a bit different though |
| 16:54.08 | Jamash | I mean Argalon |
| 16:54.19 | Jamash | you know who I mean |
| 16:54.22 | Mr_Rabies | they have occu'thar in there too now |
| 16:54.46 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/new-usb-30-power-delivery-specification-announced <-i came |
| 16:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | i really like firelands though, it's a fun instance |
| 16:55.13 | Mr_Rabies | it's basically MC with modern raid concepts |
| 16:55.33 | Mr_Rabies | alysra is probably one of my favorite raids since LK |
| 16:55.42 | Mr_Rabies | er, bosses |
| 16:55.43 | Jamash | when I read "usb power delivery" I think big metal towers with usb cables running from city to city |
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| 16:56.28 | Jamash | 100W O_O |
| 16:56.42 | Jamash | did thinkgeek already do the usb ez-bake oven? |
| 16:57.17 | Lopeppeppy | .... probably. |
| 16:57.20 | Lopeppeppy | But now I want one! :) |
| 16:57.22 | Jamash | https://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/ezbake.shtml |
| 16:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | Bah, installs in a free drive slot. I need a freestanding one. |
| 16:58.30 | karl_w_w | 8.7 gb of cataclysm patch to download |
| 16:58.31 | karl_w_w | oh joy |
| 16:58.44 | Jamash | now I'm waiting for wireless USB power delivery |
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| 17:07.00 | Kraps_w | Greg âGhostcrawlerâ Street is the lead systems designer for World of Warcraft, and lead eater at the dinner table. |
| 17:07.24 | nicoli_s | is that a nice way of saying he is fat |
| 17:08.13 | Torhal|work | nicoli_s: You'll beat him, though! You'll get that loading dock yet! |
| 17:09.50 | Kraps_w | also according to comments on mmoc, the 300k drop was because of fire mages so blizzard better watch out k? |
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| 17:20.54 | Arrowmaster | thats an april fools item, i dont think they actually sell it |
| 17:21.52 | Jamash | yes, dear |
| 17:26.58 | Jamash | someone buy me https://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/games/e588/ |
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| 17:31.47 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 17:32.06 | Fisker | hey Kraps_w |
| 17:32.19 | Kraps_w | not so hey Fisker |
| 17:32.20 | Fisker | i heard that Blizzard don't do memes as they become retarded down the line |
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| 17:36.28 | Jamash | Fisker |
| 17:36.37 | Jamash | Nintendo told me to do a barrel roll. |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker | oh ok Jamash |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker | umad? |
| 17:38.49 | Jamash | more like O_o than >_< |
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| 17:44.11 | karl_w_w | ~ping |
| 17:44.11 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:44.16 | Jamash | why is it that nintendo has embraced internet memes but not internet gaming |
| 17:45.40 | Dagmar | Because perverts like to touch little kids |
| 17:46.41 | Jamash | they should make a ds game where you touch little kids to keep them occupied then oh wait they did |
| 17:46.49 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 17:47.04 | Dagmar | I'm kinda suprised Illusion hasn't done one of those yet |
| 17:48.03 | Jamash | someone should call up realdoll and ask if they offer children's sizes |
| 17:48.09 | Dagmar | rofl |
| 17:48.54 | sylvanaar_work | btw, if you have never had these. you are missing out http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EO5ZPQ |
| 17:49.11 | Dagmar | If that weren't an amazon link, there is no way in fucking hell I'd click it |
| 17:49.21 | Jamash | agreed |
| 17:49.41 | sylvanaar_work | why? |
| 17:49.57 | Dagmar | Were you paying attention to what we were just talking about? |
| 17:50.00 | sylvanaar_work | no |
| 17:50.07 | Dagmar | Scroll up about an inch |
| 17:50.41 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 17:50.46 | Dagmar | Heh now you see. |
| 17:50.47 | bluspacecow | just an inch ? what if he use 48 pt text ? |
| 17:51.02 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Then he'd be too old to use the internet |
| 17:51.07 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.09 | Jamash | scroll up 6 em then |
| 17:51.28 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, I have a huge font dont you know? The ladies love it. |
| 17:52.40 | Lopeppeppy | Papryus is ugly no matter how "huge" you blow it up. |
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| 17:54.16 | Fisker | Sixen my man |
| 17:55.54 | bluspacecow | that's sexy hunk man to you boyo |
| 18:02.49 | foxlit | What do hunters get on Sindragosa nowadays? |
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| 18:08.01 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.16 | Cairenn | hi bluspacecow |
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| 18:09.05 | Fisker | i like Sixen bluspacecow |
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| 18:10.26 | Torhal|work | Fisker-rages. |
| 18:12.13 | Fisker | umad Torhal|work ? |
| 18:12.13 | foxlit | teehee, on Valithria |
| 18:12.13 | foxlit | there's nobody competent doing the portals :/ |
| 18:12.23 | Kraps_w | tim robbins and jeff bridges have music albums |
| 18:13.43 | bluspacecow | i is @ works foxlit |
| 18:13.50 | bluspacecow | 'otherise i would totally do the portals wiv you |
| 18:14.25 | bluspacecow | also people have put out co-op third party downloable maps |
| 18:17.08 | Torhal|work | protips Fisker with amirite. |
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| 18:54.53 | kd3 | wow wtf at the threat hotfix incoming |
| 18:55.11 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3300854 |
| 18:56.28 | foxlit | what makes you think hotfix? |
| 18:56.42 | kd3 | Hotfix: The threat generated by classes in their tanking mode has been increased from three times damage done to five times damage done. |
| 18:57.05 | mikma | haste: http://www.jco.de/2011/08/game-earworm/ |
| 18:57.05 | kd3 | also, second paragraph: "Enough that weâre planning to apply a hotfix this week to change how threat works." |
| 18:58.08 | Mr_Rabies | oh they edited that a bit |
| 18:58.17 | Mr_Rabies | those lines about a hotfix weren't in the original text i don't think |
| 18:59.19 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2774413 |
| 18:59.22 | foxlit | eu has the old text. |
| 19:01.45 | nevcairiel | threat no longer an issue? how boring is tanking going to be.. |
| 19:02.10 | Cide | awesome change, kd3 |
| 19:02.11 | kd3 | he answers that later on |
| 19:02.17 | kd3 | indeed |
| 19:02.21 | Cide | DK tanks are great in that regard |
| 19:02.31 | nevcairiel | now every donkey in defense stance can hold the aggro |
| 19:02.37 | Cide | our main tank (DK) actually reforged lots of mitigation into expertise |
| 19:02.39 | Cide | and hit |
| 19:02.44 | Cide | and his survivability went up by a lot |
| 19:02.55 | Cide | and healing him became a lot easier |
| 19:03.13 | nevcairiel | because he hit more? |
| 19:03.16 | Cide | nevcairiel: yeah, but skilled tanks are not really about holding aggro anymore |
| 19:03.17 | nevcairiel | is confused |
| 19:03.23 | Cide | because his death strikes did not miss 1/3 of the time |
| 19:03.43 | Cide | so when he took a damage spike he could actually heal back up consistently instead of randomly taking MASSIVE damage spikes due to a miss streak |
| 19:04.18 | nevcairiel | that change is only about high-end raiding, in low-end raiding or even 5man heroics, now every idiot will feel like a good tank because he could hold aggro |
| 19:04.31 | Cide | right |
| 19:04.47 | Cide | but heading toward active mitigation as opposed to passive is a great change |
| 19:04.52 | Cide | (DK style) |
| 19:05.05 | nevcairiel | while the healers are still cursing because a bad tank will still be bad and make it harder on them. :p |
| 19:05.08 | Cide | if it boosts the ego of dungeon finder idiots I could care less :P |
| 19:05.27 | Cide | stacking stamina will still be the hallmark of stupid tanks |
| 19:05.45 | nevcairiel | its like taking mana issues away from the healers, because they are already busy running around and healing everyone |
| 19:05.56 | Cide | no |
| 19:06.44 | Cide | holding aggro is trivial after the first 5 seconds of a raid boss, discounting dps warriors and maybe druids |
| 19:07.01 | nevcairiel | the post reads like "tanks are already busy, so we take one aspect of being a tank away from them" |
| 19:07.02 | Cide | everyone else can just invis/feign/fade/feint/whatever |
| 19:07.08 | Cide | right |
| 19:07.10 | kd3 | oh wow, yay. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2973255055?page=1#1 |
| 19:07.25 | Cide | the first part of the change isn't that interesting |
| 19:07.28 | Cide | the whole removing threat deal |
| 19:07.40 | Cide | but doing that as part of a move toward active mitigation is amazing |
| 19:08.24 | nevcairiel | I guess that would actually give them something to make a good tank again |
| 19:08.32 | Cide | yep |
| 19:09.06 | Cide | tank skill gaps are most apparent in DK tanks I think |
| 19:09.14 | Cide | intelligent use of death strike is vital (can't spam it either) |
| 19:09.26 | Cide | for warriors it's more subtle and can include things like intervene |
| 19:10.18 | Cide | for druids it's like go afk and hit barkskin/survival instincts/frenzied regeneration at the right time |
| 19:11.10 | nevcairiel | I remember the days when you had to keep shield block up as warrior, hehe. It wasnt really a skill to press it on cooldown, but hey |
| 19:11.21 | nevcairiel | I dont think druids ever had to really pay attention.. |
| 19:11.31 | Fisker | so kd3 |
| 19:11.40 | Cide | threat is really only a skill thing for multiple targets currently |
| 19:11.43 | kd3 | hm? |
| 19:11.44 | Fisker | saw that they backed down on the real id premium invites? |
| 19:11.45 | Fisker | hoho |
| 19:11.51 | Fisker | dey tried |
| 19:11.54 | kd3 | yes |
| 19:12.01 | kd3 | quite happy to see that |
| 19:12.36 | Cide | http://www.artima.com/cppsource/rvalue.html |
| 19:12.47 | Cide | somebody scroll down to the piece of code before "References" |
| 19:12.55 | Cide | and explain why the struct is necessary |
| 19:13.01 | Cide | unless it isn't |
| 19:13.08 | Fisker | i have a feeling they're just doing random controversial shit to one day have us go "Hey that's a neat idea" so they can make it a premium service |
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| 19:16.15 | Mr_Rabies | bah |
| 19:16.41 | Mr_Rabies | what mount/pet addons does everyone use? i'm getting tired of GupPet's brokenness since 4.1 or so |
| 19:17.40 | karl_w_w | arkinventory's built-in |
| 19:18.11 | Mr_Rabies | guppet is just about perfect but it's outdated and broken and the author's been MIA since january |
| 19:18.21 | Mr_Rabies | when it worked it did everything i wanted, perfectly |
| 19:21.29 | alestane | Anyone know which chiles are the pale green ones that are a little longer and lumpier than jalpeños? |
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| 19:24.44 | Lunessa | pepperchini? |
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| 19:25.25 | Lunessa | (like the one's Pappa John's delivers with your pizza)? |
| 19:26.06 | Stanzilla | now people start advertising /run COMBATLOG:UnregisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT") to fight lag in game |
| 19:26.10 | Stanzilla | :< |
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| 19:26.52 | nevcairiel | just switch the combatlog to some other display that doesnt output as many events |
| 19:27.13 | nevcairiel | what happend to me, or what it was called |
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| 19:28.11 | Stanzilla | I do that |
| 19:28.25 | Ketho | ThatJustHappened? |
| 19:30.55 | Ketho | .. nvm thought you were talking about addons instead of the filter thingies |
| 19:35.32 | Kraps_w | i'm gonna be a mighty king |
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| 19:42.56 | Kraps_w | how to draw ampersand |
| 19:43.10 | kd3 | & |
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| 19:43.59 | Kraps_w | mine looked fail |
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| 19:48.05 | Kraps_w | Jamash: are you excited for season 2? |
| 19:48.21 | Kraps_w | CAUSE I AM, BRO |
| 19:49.09 | Jamash | yar |
| 19:53.02 | Nechckn | Kraps usually draw them backward, myself... |
| 19:53.15 | Kraps_w | Jamash: d'you suppose it'll have more of a story arch? |
| 19:53.21 | Kraps_w | arc* |
| 19:53.23 | Jamash | iunno |
| 19:58.04 | Kraps_w | Nechckn: hmm |
| 19:59.33 | Nechckn | Sorry, the thing about ampersands... if not near a keyboard, then I draw them in reverse. Since I know this, I usually end up making two or three and then picking the wrong one, anyway. Some mental block or something. |
| 20:01.42 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: because nothing starts on the bottom right |
| 20:02.20 | Kraps_w | i just drew a few and had some memory nudge from teh elementary school days, but i can't remember what exactly was used |
| 20:11.08 | Fisker | hey mikma |
| 20:11.09 | Fisker | mitä vittua, miten vitus tiesit et on suomee :D:D |
| 20:11.13 | Fisker | what does that mean? |
| 20:12.44 | Kraps_w | Fisker: you're scandinavish, you should know |
| 20:12.55 | Fisker | finnish is gibberish |
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| 20:15.38 | Kraps_w | SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE |
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| 20:22.31 | alestane | Somewhere in the comments for one of these strips, I think she compares all five Scandic tongues, but I couldn't find it:http://satwcomic.com/talk-to-me-1 |
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| 20:35.15 | Ackis | age of empires online is kind of expensive :( |
| 20:36.00 | TMc51 | let me guess, you're at a evere disadvantage without paying? |
| 20:36.05 | TMc51 | 8severe |
| 20:36.08 | TMc51 | *severe |
| 20:39.40 | Ackis | no, it's just to get all the content for "season 1" it's like $100 |
| 20:40.01 | TMc51 | ... |
| 20:40.08 | TMc51 | thats just fail |
| 20:40.35 | Ackis | you don't need it all |
| 20:41.48 | Ackis | http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-CA/Product/Age-of-Empires-Online/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8044d530fa3?nosplash=1&downloadType=GameAddon#LiveZone |
| 20:42.54 | TMc51 | freemium content is supposed to nickel and dime you to death, and screw you over time, rather than watse that much up front. m$ has a lot to learn from Riot. |
| 20:43.03 | TMc51 | lol |
| 20:43.30 | Ackis | they have it set up to do that, but also said lets offer people a deal... looks like all the content to buy will be $130 |
| 20:44.06 | Thunder_Child | TMc51: Actually riots system is very good |
| 20:44.24 | Thunder_Child | but you dont /need/ skins |
| 20:45.09 | Thunder_Child | though i really do like me legendary Kog'Maw skin XD |
| 20:45.13 | Thunder_Child | s/me/my/ |
| 20:45.25 | TMc51 | Thunder_Child: Yeah, it is. They even gave away free skins for promos back when I played. |
| 20:46.36 | olafski | I bought 4 new xbox gameses today ackis |
| 20:46.39 | olafski | well, 4 kinda old ones |
| 20:47.25 | Thunder_Child | TMc51: they still do for things |
| 20:50.28 | Fisker | umad Thunder_Child ? |
| 20:50.34 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: nope |
| 20:50.38 | Fisker | who is mdollar TMc51 ? |
| 20:50.43 | Thunder_Child | quite happy actually |
| 20:51.29 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.33 | Fisker | Great service right there |
| 20:51.45 | Fisker | "Already got it? Pay us again, for free" |
| 20:54.32 | Thunder_Child | s/free/nothing/ |
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| 21:15.46 | Thunder_Child | bah, why is java redundant when creating new classes. |
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| 21:18.27 | Cide | s/when creating new classes.// |
| 21:18.50 | Cide | don't you like creating 15 different objects to open a file |
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| 21:20.10 | Thunder_Child | i just dont know why it is blorb thing = new blorb |
| 21:23.19 | Cide | because the left side can be an interface or base class |
| 21:24.32 | Kalroth | Shirik, arent you a wiki admin? is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_%28United_States%29 supposed to look like this?! |
| 21:25.02 | Cide | shirik is like dead |
| 21:25.12 | Kalroth | aw |
| 21:25.18 | Kalroth | poor shirik he'll be missed |
| 21:28.06 | zenzelezz | so I just watched an episode of "Hell's Kitchen", and afterwards went to check on game news. Now I'm reading the dev watercooler post with Gordon Ramsey's voice... |
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| 22:01.25 | jnwhiteh | I look like I'm planning something here.. |
| 22:01.25 | jnwhiteh | http://janemurrayphotography.e-printphoto.co.uk/view/18265416/img_8816_jpg |
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| 22:03.23 | Torhal|work | jnwhiteh: EIther that, or it's an "I saw what you did there!" look. |
| 22:03.48 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure what this one says |
| 22:03.48 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/67a6ee46050dfd9f7e74ab6713ba240e.jpg |
| 22:04.22 | Torhal|work | Don't know :) |
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| 22:28.42 | airtonix | "I will subjugate you and use you for slave labour"? |
| 22:29.28 | airtonix | oh i see trollface |
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| 22:46.58 | foxlit | # Folks used to go here to relax from their relaxin'. |
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| 22:57.47 | Kraps | cant believe they actually did this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gkQ1OYGe-k |
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| 23:14.50 | Kraps | http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/square-enix-to-drop-enix-in-a-re-branding-effort |
| 23:15.09 | A-KO | LOL |
| 23:15.12 | A-KO | funny |
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| 23:23.43 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Actually, now that I see the pic again, I believe it says "Which top hat to wear? Which, damn it?" |
| 23:23.44 | Torhal | :D |
| 23:26.00 | Kraps | yessssss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQH3_Fydt-4&feature=player_embedded |
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| 23:33.03 | airtonix | calibrating |
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