| 00:04.15 | Mikk | boys... boys... and fbi agents |
| 00:18.48 | starlon | They're watching you. |
| 00:19.20 | starlon | says the obvious. |
| 00:20.50 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: is that going to get un-banned again by eir again? |
| 00:21.00 | Thunder_Child | s/again// |
| 00:21.17 | Cairenn | probably - Shirik changed it so that eir only bans for 24 hrs |
| 00:21.32 | Thunder_Child | it needs to have a 3 strikes rule |
| 00:32.06 | kd3 | wow: http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CJus_5nqq9j3JBCsAhj6ATIIIN9FGq7AmH0 |
| 00:44.29 | vhaarr | kd3: you know how it works; ad agencies and sign printing shops have two services; Standard and Premium - the latter comes with spell/grammar-correction and the former does not |
| 00:44.44 | vhaarr | most people think "meh I don't need that", and you end up with the above :P |
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| 00:55.02 | Kraps | sings "winter wrapup" |
| 00:58.41 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/feeder-mice-not-included/13033 |
| 00:58.46 | Kraps | no |
| 00:58.49 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/NEdM8.jpg |
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| 01:13.56 | Thunder_Child | kd3: besides, who would not want to click for their packages? |
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| 01:20.28 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/9DP83.png |
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| 01:31.21 | Sixen | Does anyone know the Alert links for KR/TW/CN? Like... US is: http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
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| 02:15.31 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lYSMa7X35Y the first 12 seconds are amusing |
| 02:15.35 | foxlit | can't vouch for the rest |
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| 02:30.29 | Xinhuan | t |
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| 02:36.10 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3839-Bastion-and-From-Dust << now how did I miss that? |
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| 02:53.12 | foxlit | "The Onion News Network is now 20 percent louder than any other network on television." |
| 02:55.08 | Kraps | foxlit: awesome |
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| 03:03.12 | bleeter | oO http://www.animationmagazine.net/vfx/lucasfilm-imageworks-release-alembic-1-0/ |
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| 03:24.28 | Arrowmaster | smurf movie is great |
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| 03:25.25 | Arrowmaster | how does this have such as low rating |
| 03:26.59 | Thunder_Child | because not everyone agrees with you? |
| 03:27.34 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was hilarious |
| 03:28.36 | Thunder_Child | evidently |
| 03:29.00 | Arrowmaster | gnomeo and juliet has higher ratings but i thought it was awful |
| 03:29.17 | Xzempt | anyone know a tutorial that will teach me how to show a spell icon in a frame when soemthing procs |
| 03:29.33 | Xzempt | i looked at CreateTexture |
| 03:29.37 | Thunder_Child | look at an addon that already does what you want? |
| 03:29.41 | Xzempt | but i couldn't get it to work with that |
| 03:31.03 | mckenziemc1 | hmm.... |
| 03:31.26 | mckenziemc1 | if a hunter's pet is stealthed, hostile players aren't supposed to see it, right? |
| 03:31.56 | karl_w_w | no but pet stealth is not as stealthy as rogue/druid stealth |
| 03:32.30 | mckenziemc1 | it's not working at all : / |
| 03:32.48 | mckenziemc1 | i can see the pet with the stealth buff from a long distance |
| 03:32.58 | Arrowmaster | is it a much lower level? |
| 03:33.18 | mckenziemc1 | no, same level |
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| 03:40.22 | mckenziemc1 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4b3e76ed0d5a299c8a4925d399df2ae3.jpg |
| 03:40.26 | Kraps | nest thing ever |
| 03:40.33 | Kraps | best* |
| 03:40.35 | Kraps | http://kyrospawn.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FIM-soundboard-V4-3-213310684? |
| 03:41.01 | mckenziemc1 | don't ask me why i used paint instead of wow's screenshot bc idk D: |
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| 03:41.40 | Phelps | how can I check if an item is BoE |
| 03:42.08 | mckenziemc1 | tooltip scan for the string |
| 03:42.31 | Phelps | what part of the string lets me know if its boe |
| 03:42.56 | Phelps | is there somewhere that breaks down an item link |
| 03:43.58 | mckenziemc1 | you can make a tooltip widget and set it to show the item id, then scan the text |
| 03:44.08 | mckenziemc1 | it's been a while so i don't remember details |
| 03:44.24 | kd3 | you'll have to scan the tooltip for "Binds when equipped" iirc |
| 03:45.05 | mckenziemc1 | there's a global constant that holds the string + is localized for each language |
| 03:46.17 | Phelps | that just about sucks |
| 03:46.25 | kd3 | yup |
| 03:47.03 | Phelps | ohh well |
| 03:47.33 | kd3 | you can compare against the value in the global ITEM_BIND_ON_EQUIP if you want a localized version |
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| 03:58.09 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc1: I'd post it on general |
| 03:58.27 | karl_w_w | or bug report |
| 03:58.57 | mckenziemc1 | i'll do that in a bit |
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| 05:13.14 | Kraps | wow Princess Celestia trolls 3 times in less than 2 minutes |
| 05:21.00 | Ackis | anyone have an extra blizzcon ticket? |
| 05:21.11 | Fisker | i'm a shark |
| 05:21.12 | bluspacecow | not sure mr ackis man |
| 05:21.12 | Fisker | i'm a shark |
| 05:21.16 | Fisker | suck my dick i'm a shark |
| 05:21.20 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:21.31 | bluspacecow | i'm not going but as my name is on the ticket , don't know of anyway of giving it to someone else |
| 05:22.04 | Arrowmaster | did you buy it or did somebody else buy it and put your name on it? |
| 05:23.21 | Arrowmaster | if you bought a single ticket then now i dont think you can change the name on it anymore so its probably not usable |
| 05:23.47 | bluspacecow | i brought it as well as 2 others for other people. Everyone has their names on the tickets |
| 05:24.18 | bluspacecow | afaik the only other way is to deliver someone the credit card it was brought on and well â¦. i like you guys but not enough to send my credit card off to some random person here |
| 05:24.26 | bluspacecow | no offence intended |
| 05:24.40 | Ackis | not even me? :( |
| 05:24.46 | Ackis | btw the news site took down that video =/ |
| 05:24.56 | bluspacecow | :/ |
| 05:25.11 | bluspacecow | that i dont understand |
| 05:25.15 | Fisker | bluspacecow please |
| 05:25.18 | bluspacecow | on that page were other ones for other daily news |
| 05:25.29 | Ackis | well the link I had doesn't work any longer |
| 05:25.42 | Arrowmaster | well goodnight |
| 05:25.42 | Ackis | I didn't spend too much looking... they aired the video locally |
| 05:25.51 | Fisker | buys a banana and eats it |
| 05:25.58 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 05:26.02 | Fisker | why are you taking up tickets? |
| 05:26.11 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 05:26.17 | bluspacecow | you assume too much fisker |
| 05:26.40 | Fisker | you say you have a ticket you can't use since you're not going |
| 05:26.42 | Fisker | i assume nothing |
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| 05:27.12 | bluspacecow | 1 ticket |
| 05:27.18 | bluspacecow | i booked before booking the leave from work |
| 05:27.43 | Fisker | you ruined someone elses dream bluspacecow |
| 05:27.50 | Fisker | that is a jerk move |
| 05:28.18 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 05:28.22 | bluspacecow | wasnt intentional |
| 05:28.28 | bluspacecow | actually |
| 05:28.30 | bluspacecow | yes it was |
| 05:28.32 | bluspacecow | i took your ticket |
| 05:28.35 | bluspacecow | muhahahahahahahhahahaha |
| 05:28.47 | Fisker | you won't get away with this |
| 05:28.52 | Fisker | i'm calling the cops |
| 05:28.55 | Fisker | the blizzard cops |
| 05:29.01 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 05:29.44 | Mr_Rabies | A GM IS ON HIS WAY TO YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW, JERK |
| 05:29.56 | bluspacecow | @ackis http://bit.ly/nzzZuc from 2:13 |
| 05:29.58 | bleeter | YOUR ALL REPORTED |
| 05:30.19 | Ackis | bluspacecow: thanks for finding it... I still can't watch the video though buddy |
| 05:30.33 | bluspacecow | plays for me in NZ whats it do for you ? |
| 05:31.02 | Ackis | think it works... I must've been on crack or something |
| 05:32.40 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 05:33.21 | Ackis | still wish I could get a copy of it |
| 05:34.21 | bluspacecow | examing the code now it appears video_src still looks up a pid on the server |
| 05:34.22 | bluspacecow | :\ |
| 05:34.34 | bluspacecow | javascript with no returns makes me sad |
| 05:36.23 | bluspacecow | <h4 class="bf_h4"><a href="/group.php?gid=2216298956">BRUNETTES DO IT BETTER</a> |
| 05:36.28 | bluspacecow | O_O WOT |
| 05:36.45 | Ackis | lol |
| 05:36.50 | bluspacecow | found in the local storage of the page in webkit inspecter |
| 05:38.26 | Ackis | I'm so tired this isn't making sense... but I think if I wasn't tired it still wouldn't make sense |
| 05:39.24 | Ackis | Cairenn: viscous bear attack! http://i.imgur.com/jGGBr.gif :D |
| 05:39.32 | Cairenn | hehehehehe |
| 05:39.38 | Cairenn | too cute! |
| 05:39.51 | Cairenn | better hope momma isn't near, though |
| 05:40.05 | Ackis | lol yeah |
| 05:40.52 | Mr_Rabies | just a gnome druid |
| 05:40.55 | Mr_Rabies | that is a momma |
| 05:42.11 | Ackis | ty for the e-mail bluspacecow <3 |
| 05:42.21 | bluspacecow | @caireen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgrZ5Dtsi-E |
| 05:42.52 | mckenziemc | lolwut |
| 05:43.03 | mckenziemc | 4.2.0 Known Issues: If you are nearby Neutral Goblin NPCs during a Deathwing attack your reputation with those factions can be decreased. |
| 05:43.11 | Cairenn | hehehhee |
| 05:49.13 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67tNwTtH0qE |
| 05:49.13 | bluspacecow | wtf |
| 05:52.49 | Corrodias | that is awesome |
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| 05:57.15 | Mr_Rabies | it owns |
| 05:57.27 | Mr_Rabies | the dev also made a crazy oregon trail-like game |
| 05:57.56 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zVmW4NYkwE |
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| 06:01.52 | Corrodias | hahahah |
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| 06:03.47 | Ackis | night folks |
| 06:15.41 | Cairenn | night Ackis *hugs* |
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| 06:25.26 | starlon | : |
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| 06:32.29 | starlon | "Known Issue" is another word for feature. |
| 06:33.21 | starlon | bird bird bird |
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| 06:54.02 | starlon | knows about synthetic mind tricks. They're watching. |
| 06:54.17 | zenzio | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/08/10/182224/Court-Rules-Sending-Too-Many-Emails-Is-Hacking - suddenly there are a lot more hackers in the world |
| 06:54.33 | starlon | >.< |
| 06:56.01 | starlon | I can't get to the page, but didn't it have to do with organizing a mass email bomb? |
| 06:57.22 | Xzempt | What am I missing here, I have the icons for the related spell showing, but when something procs sometimes it shows the wrong icon |
| 06:57.37 | Xzempt | am i supposed to unset a texture before its set again or something? |
| 06:57.59 | zenzio | no |
| 06:58.05 | Xzempt | hmm |
| 06:58.16 | Xzempt | any ideas why it shows the wrong texture then |
| 06:58.26 | Xzempt | seems to only do it when theres 2 procs |
| 06:58.37 | zenzio | but finding out what's your problem would be hard without some code. Try posting some code on one of the code paste sites (like the one in the topic) |
| 06:59.34 | zenzio | (doesn't have to be all your code, just the relevant bits - the proc stuff where you set the textures probably) |
| 07:00.58 | Xzempt | http://pastebin.com/hGPiDESE |
| 07:01.05 | Xzempt | its a mess, prolly so dont laugh at it |
| 07:01.06 | Xzempt | lol |
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| 07:03.52 | zenzio | Xzempt: I can't test your code since I'm at work, but if I'm reading it correctly then you're not just *setting* the texture when something procs, you're creating a whole new texture object |
| 07:04.14 | Xzempt | hmm |
| 07:04.53 | zenzio | try creating one single texture right after you create your frame, then all you do inside your event handler is call SetTexture on it |
| 07:04.55 | Xzempt | so i should createxture when the frames created |
| 07:05.00 | zenzio | yeah |
| 07:05.01 | Xzempt | then settexture when something procs |
| 07:05.02 | Xzempt | ? |
| 07:05.05 | zenzio | exactly |
| 07:05.13 | Xzempt | ok thanks, let me try that |
| 07:09.39 | Xzempt | that seems to have fixed it |
| 07:09.41 | Xzempt | thanks |
| 07:10.03 | zenzio | :) |
| 07:17.00 | mckenziemc1 | "Some people have referred to me as [a woman] because my rogue is a female usually" |
| 07:17.29 | zenzio | ah, the phenomenon of occasionally male rogues |
| 07:17.43 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes they're rouges |
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| 07:26.08 | mckenziemc1 | D: |
| 07:26.36 | starlon | damnit ISP |
| 07:26.57 | starlon | I had plans. |
| 07:27.08 | starlon | Was going to check out android SDK |
| 07:27.48 | Thunder_Child | so do so? |
| 07:27.58 | starlon | do so so |
| 07:28.40 | starlon | Is this language like morse code? do do so so so do |
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| 07:29.38 | starlon | I swear hackers are doing this to my ISP. >.< |
| 07:29.48 | cbreak_work | yeah right |
| 07:30.10 | cbreak_work | ISPs are just too cheap to get proper infrastructure |
| 07:30.22 | starlon | which is vulnerable |
| 07:30.31 | cbreak_work | no. |
| 07:30.34 | cbreak_work | underpowered |
| 07:30.36 | cbreak_work | that's what it is |
| 07:31.00 | starlon | hmm it is kinda hot lately here in Texas hehe |
| 07:31.22 | cbreak_work | honestly, I get 4 mb/sec download at best |
| 07:31.31 | cbreak_work | (at home) |
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| 07:31.47 | cbreak_work | even though I pay for 50mbit... ah well |
| 07:31.55 | starlon | Well I'm unable to connect to anything, except I still have my ssh process connected somehow. |
| 07:32.13 | cbreak_work | connect? or resolve names? |
| 07:32.32 | starlon | IP doesn't work either |
| 07:33.00 | cbreak_work | weird. |
| 07:33.03 | cbreak_work | maybe a routing issue |
| 07:33.04 | starlon | nods. |
| 07:33.08 | cbreak_work | did you try to traceroute? |
| 07:33.29 | starlon | I'm afraid to touch it lol |
| 07:33.36 | starlon | It's my only connection. lol |
| 07:33.51 | cbreak_work | 74.125.39.105 is one of the IPs of google, just open an other shell and type traceroute 74.125.39.105 |
| 07:34.25 | cbreak_work | although... probably won't tell much useful |
| 07:34.34 | starlon | I don't have it installed, and can't reach the server. |
| 07:34.40 | starlon | to install I mean |
| 07:34.52 | cbreak_work | whoa... you're on a cellphone? :) |
| 07:34.58 | starlon | no |
| 07:35.25 | starlon | I just don't have traceroute installed. It didn't get installed with Ubuntu. |
| 07:35.31 | cbreak_work | weird. |
| 07:35.40 | cbreak_work | last time I installed that I got all kinds of garbage |
| 07:35.55 | cbreak_work | and then they leave out such an essential tool |
| 07:36.02 | starlon | I like it so far., It's an upgrade from Fedora. |
| 07:37.41 | starlon | Gnome3 is what I'm liking though. |
| 07:37.53 | cbreak_work | I am a mac user, so the UI didn't impress me at all. I found it rather unintuitive to be honest. But at least it had a shell :) |
| 07:37.55 | starlon | And Ubuntu's configuration called Unity. |
| 07:38.12 | cbreak_work | unity is a GPU accellerated thingie |
| 07:38.17 | starlon | yep |
| 07:38.25 | cbreak_work | it's not a window manager... something in between |
| 07:38.39 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUwQwtDpdE4&NR=1 |
| 07:38.43 | starlon | I can't reach that. |
| 07:38.59 | starlon | I thought unity was simply a preset. |
| 07:39.18 | starlon | compiz does the acceleration |
| 07:40.04 | cbreak_work | maybe. |
| 07:40.24 | cbreak_work | I mostly use bash when I am on LINUX :) |
| 07:40.30 | starlon | nods. |
| 07:40.35 | starlon | yep. |
| 07:43.13 | starlon | would be cool if I just had a way to run a WoW client. lol |
| 07:43.29 | zenzio | <cbreak_work> I am a mac user, so the UI didn't impress me at all <--- yeah, the Mac UI doesn't impress me at all either |
| 07:43.45 | starlon | Or rather all the android tools installed actually. More interested in that than WoW atm. |
| 07:44.25 | cbreak_work | you want to develop for android? |
| 07:45.17 | starlon | I want to check it out. |
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| 07:45.27 | starlon | It would be a break from WoW addons. |
| 07:45.49 | cbreak_work | well, good luck :) |
| 07:46.00 | starlon | just going to check it out |
| 07:46.17 | zenzio | I need to set aside some time to get into that too |
| 07:46.18 | cbreak_work | I heard they use git for version control, so you will learn something useful at lesat :) |
| 07:46.30 | starlon | I use git now. |
| 07:46.43 | cbreak_work | excellent |
| 07:46.45 | starlon | Most of my repos are git, except on code.google.com |
| 07:46.58 | zenzio | I'd rather do Android development than iPhone development; but don't get much chance since customers always want to develop for iOS |
| 07:46.59 | cbreak_work | don't they have git support now too? |
| 07:47.10 | starlon | I haen't checked. |
| 07:47.24 | cbreak_work | zenzio: because iPhone users are better paying customers probably. |
| 07:47.28 | cbreak_work | or just more |
| 07:48.03 | zenzio | cbreak_work: the second is more likely over here |
| 07:48.14 | zenzio | Norway's a small country, you're hard pressed to earn money through apps here |
| 07:48.24 | cbreak_work | nokia ovi store! |
| 07:48.33 | cbreak_work | (ha. ha. ha...) |
| 07:48.35 | starlon | I'm not doing it for money. |
| 07:49.00 | starlon | I just like programming things. |
| 07:50.35 | starlon | The guy that suggested it to me wants me to make money off it. |
| 07:51.20 | zenzio | I'm just glad it's been a while since (potential) customers tried to pitch their app ideas as free development (from us), shared income (from sales price/in app) |
| 07:52.07 | starlon | hmm? |
| 07:53.24 | zenzio | for a while, customers who wanted iPhone apps would come to us, tell us about the idea, and start out with the idea that they'd pay us nothing, but we would get some percentage of all income from the app. Which given their ideas would be a very unfortunate idea for us, but a very cheap option for them |
| 07:53.45 | starlon | heh |
| 07:53.58 | starlon | well, mine is free to copy and modify. |
| 07:54.07 | starlon | like a recipe |
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| 08:03.22 | starlon | What's Facebook's mobile page URL? |
| 08:03.34 | starlon | Want to see if it'll load in Links. |
| 08:03.43 | mckenziemc1 | idk, it's always on the move |
| 08:03.52 | starlon | o.O |
| 08:04.08 | starlon | what does that mean? |
| 08:04.27 | starlon | oh |
| 08:04.28 | starlon | heh |
| 08:04.37 | Xzempt | I don't suppose there is no way to return what Battleground you are about to be joining if you use RBG is their? |
| 08:04.59 | Xzempt | i have the script showing arena map name and the map name if you manually queue for a bg |
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| 08:05.14 | Xzempt | itll only return Random Battleground if i queue rbg tho |
| 08:12.32 | starlon | Blizz should give warriors a pet pitbull. |
| 08:12.50 | starlon | Defensive |
| 08:14.42 | starlon | Send us on an epic quest and adventure through WoW. |
| 08:15.04 | starlon | : |
| 08:15.08 | bluspacecow | to get a pitbull ? |
| 08:15.12 | starlon | hell yeah |
| 08:15.15 | bluspacecow | how epic we talking ? |
| 08:15.27 | starlon | he holds aggro |
| 08:15.38 | starlon | you can't get away without fighting that shit |
| 08:19.44 | starlon | yay ISP snapped back in place. |
| 08:20.08 | starlon | oh and how epic? how epic is that melee's best friend? |
| 08:22.37 | haste | Xzempt: it is called random battleground for a reason |
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| 08:32.16 | harl | wuff wuff |
| 08:32.25 | bluspacecow | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:33.26 | haste | haroo |
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| 08:37.42 | bluspacecow | *turns starry puppy eyes at starlon* |
| 08:37.45 | bluspacecow | you has meats ? |
| 08:37.49 | bluspacecow | *begs* |
| 08:38.28 | starlon | I have truck loads of spam. Good enough? |
| 08:39.15 | harl | wharts sparm? |
| 08:41.41 | starlon | It has no definition. |
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| 08:46.54 | bluspacecow | SPAM! |
| 08:46.58 | bluspacecow | om nom nom nom nom nom |
| 08:47.08 | bluspacecow | @harl its a form of ham |
| 08:48.21 | Thunder_Child | sure, if the form is of an amorphous blob |
| 08:48.27 | starlon | it's another white meat for sure |
| 08:48.31 | starlon | "Meat" |
| 08:48.42 | bleeter | spam is meat that is not bacon |
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| 09:00.12 | bluspacecow | 4.2.2 's up on the PTR's already ? |
| 09:00.15 | bluspacecow | "Players using multiple accounts should now be available to be invited to a Real ID Party." |
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| 09:35.11 | harl|WotW | keep your spam and ham. i'm vegetarian. ;) |
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| 09:35.24 | harl|WotW | and your warts too |
| 09:35.39 | blu_vacums_room | oh |
| 09:35.40 | blu_vacums_room | right |
| 09:35.45 | blu_vacums_room | ham comes from a pig harl |
| 09:35.56 | harl|WotW | i know that |
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| 09:44.58 | airtonix | hacks zenzio |
| 09:49.20 | starlon | Ever have feral hog? Mmmmm bacon |
| 09:50.50 | starlon | I've never actually eaten much though. Ate it at a gun show in Austin, and there wasn't much left. hehe |
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| 10:15.03 | bluspacecow | feral hog or bacon ? |
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| 10:21.45 | airtonix | fisker, have you found a better smb file browser than astro (with smb module) ? |
| 10:21.52 | airtonix | for the android |
| 10:22.21 | starlon | ever have deer jerky? lol |
| 10:23.10 | cbreak_work | airtonix: can't you just mount it? |
| 10:23.22 | cbreak_work | and then browse it like the normal filesystem? |
| 10:23.37 | airtonix | yes with astro you can, but i'd rather be able to browse servers on the network then shares |
| 10:23.47 | airtonix | like i can with nautilus on my desktop |
| 10:26.21 | airtonix | overlook fing looks interesting |
| 10:37.17 | airtonix | why would a voip server have email ports open? |
| 10:37.29 | airtonix | it's an asterix server btw |
| 10:37.59 | airtonix | 25, 110, 143, 993, 995 |
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| 12:02.11 | Mikk | because default install of *nix distro? |
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| 12:11.58 | jnwhiteh | hrm, I might enjoy playing Rhapsody |
| 12:12.02 | jnwhiteh | (in HoN) |
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| 12:24.57 | zenzio_ | http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html |
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| 12:59.44 | angayelle | morning people |
| 13:00.30 | zenzio_ | heya |
| 13:02.16 | angayelle | just a confirmation, if i define a function as local within my lua file, another global function within the same lua file won't be able to access the local one ? |
| 13:03.30 | angayelle | like local function test() print("test") end; function test2() test() end; won't work |
| 13:04.05 | angayelle | trying to clean up a bit my addon and got lots of problem now |
| 13:04.06 | zenzio_ | that should work; it's local to the file |
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| 13:04.15 | zenzio_ | assuming test is defined before test2 |
| 13:04.52 | angayelle | aha, i must put the global function at the end of the file then |
| 13:05.08 | angayelle | which isn't the case right now |
| 13:05.21 | alestane | I hear the demons of confusion sniffing around. |
| 13:05.44 | angayelle | i'm greatly confused, yes |
| 13:23.01 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 13:25.02 | bluspacecow | -____- |
| 13:25.09 | bluspacecow | they didnt post wipe the PTR forums |
| 13:25.15 | airtonix | i don't need you to confirm it |
| 13:25.37 | airtonix | it's ok i have a mirror |
| 13:25.48 | bluspacecow | to look at your charming face ? |
| 13:26.02 | airtonix | i am fabio |
| 13:26.16 | bluspacecow | sexy |
| 13:26.37 | airtonix | you should see my baboon |
| 13:26.41 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: you can also just pre-declare the identifier for the function |
| 13:26.48 | jnwhiteh | so at the top you can do local someLocalFunction |
| 13:26.56 | jnwhiteh | and then later on do someLocalFunction = function() end |
| 13:27.05 | jnwhiteh | and anything below the 'local someFunction' declaration can use it. |
| 13:28.20 | airtonix | what languages handle memory unlike lua? |
| 13:28.58 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 13:28.58 | airtonix | i seeem to remember lua moves variable to new memory location every time you reassign a value to it |
| 13:29.20 | angayelle | indeed i just didn't thought about ordering when building my addon and now i'm ordering everything |
| 13:29.22 | jnwhiteh | you don't know anything about 'memory' in Lua |
| 13:29.26 | jnwhiteh | so I don't know what you're asking about |
| 13:29.37 | airtonix | i forgot |
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| 13:30.02 | airtonix | garbage handling etc |
| 13:30.35 | jnwhiteh | yes, I know lua is a garbage collected language, but that doesn't clarify your question at all |
| 13:30.37 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 13:30.39 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: are you saying that you don't like discussing memory space in terms of lua |
| 13:30.49 | jnwhiteh | no, I'm asking what your question actually is |
| 13:30.55 | airtonix | well |
| 13:30.59 | jnwhiteh | its entirely unclear to me at the moment, and I'd love to help |
| 13:32.14 | airtonix | ok so im under the impression that some languages store the actual contents of a variable at a specific memory address, and that address doesn't change when you change the value of the variable. but i seem to remember that lua just moves forward to new memory addresses when you reassign a new value to a variable |
| 13:33.11 | jnwhiteh | well, memory is only allocated for things like tables, functions, coroutines, userdata, etc. |
| 13:33.21 | jnwhiteh | as in a pointer to memory (of sorts) |
| 13:33.30 | jnwhiteh | things like numbers and strings are just bindings from a name to a value |
| 13:33.59 | nevcairiel | although strings are kinda special again, being stored in one central place |
| 13:34.05 | jnwhiteh | aye, pooled |
| 13:34.09 | jnwhiteh | but not in the same class as the others I listed |
| 13:34.14 | airtonix | this is only a concern when you deal with rate of memory space allocation rate ? |
| 13:34.26 | airtonix | sicne we don't actually address memory directly in lua |
| 13:34.39 | jnwhiteh | I don't know of a language off the top of my head that make the contents of a pointer variable constant.. I don't know how that would work |
| 13:34.40 | airtonix | rate of rate of rate |
| 13:35.17 | airtonix | assembler? |
| 13:35.28 | jnwhiteh | there aren't variables in assembler, so no |
| 13:35.38 | jnwhiteh | hence my confusion =) |
| 13:35.47 | airtonix | not even c ? |
| 13:35.50 | jnwhiteh | variables are a language construct and don't map to anything in hardware |
| 13:35.51 | nevcairiel | you can define a pointer variable constant in C |
| 13:35.57 | jnwhiteh | in c if you declare a *int |
| 13:36.00 | angayelle | jnwhiteh, would this work : local testfuncvar; testfunc2() testfuncvar end; testfuncvar = testfunc() print("test") end |
| 13:36.12 | jnwhiteh | the CONTENTS of that variable will be different |
| 13:36.24 | jnwhiteh | where the single pointer that indicates what the value of that variable contains will be constant |
| 13:36.42 | jnwhiteh | but not visible |
| 13:37.01 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: umm, no, that's not valid syntactically |
| 13:37.10 | angayelle | i'm declaring the variable but using it before i have actually defined it, so if undertsand that wouldn't work |
| 13:37.20 | nevcairiel | const in C is really just a compiler hint to optimize better anyway. :) |
| 13:37.24 | jnwhiteh | no, here is what I was saying |
| 13:38.02 | jnwhiteh | lua> local foo; function bar() print(foo()) end; foo = function() return "Hello World" end; bar(); |
| 13:38.03 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: Hello World |
| 13:38.08 | jnwhiteh | digest that for a moment |
| 13:38.13 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: does that make sense? |
| 13:38.26 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/d4c0d40c223eb623d54d084a26b4dce4.jpg |
| 13:38.46 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: the contents of a *int in C is an address. Where that address is stored is completely opaque to the programming language, it could be stack allocated, heap allocated, in a register, etc. |
| 13:39.01 | jnwhiteh | memory allocations are normally only visible to the programmer for *values* |
| 13:40.21 | bluspacecow | mikma mikma mikma mikma |
| 13:41.19 | airtonix | ok i'll think about that visually |
| 13:41.33 | bluspacecow | meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeikma |
| 13:41.50 | airtonix | pulls out a length of gaffa tape |
| 13:42.08 | airtonix | bluspacecow: oooohhh you're gonna luv this |
| 13:42.14 | bluspacecow | ooooo |
| 13:42.16 | airtonix | gaffles bluspacecow |
| 13:42.20 | bluspacecow | *makes oooo face* |
| 13:42.29 | bluspacecow | *but mostly looks constipated* |
| 13:43.56 | angayelle | lua> local foo; function bar() print(foo()) end; bar(); foo = function() return "Hello World" end; |
| 13:43.56 | lua_bot | angayelle: luabot:1: attempt to call upvalue 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 13:44.00 | angayelle | normal |
| 13:44.14 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: obviously you can't use it before its defined. |
| 13:44.21 | angayelle | obviously |
| 13:44.29 | jnwhiteh | so don't do that =) |
| 13:44.46 | angayelle | was just double checking, still need to do that ordering thing in my file |
| 13:45.01 | angayelle | thanks a lot, your help is priceless |
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| 13:55.42 | Kraps | anyone watch the Highlader tv show? |
| 13:59.33 | airtonix | is it something to do with your ipad? |
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| 14:01.05 | Kraps | if there is a tree on the moon then yes |
| 14:02.08 | Kraps | btw airtonix http://i.imgur.com/fnh3Z.jpg |
| 14:03.18 | airtonix | oh |
| 14:03.22 | airtonix | umad? |
| 14:07.16 | Kraps | nah |
| 14:07.30 | airtonix | oh ok |
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| 14:15.35 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/08/11/ffs-ubisoft-delay-pcs-driver-san-francisco/ |
| 14:16.19 | Kraps | its like they're actively trying to sabotage sales |
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| 14:29.30 | Fisker | they are |
| 14:29.46 | Fisker | it's so obvious it's ridiculous |
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| 14:34.40 | Kraps | why in tarnation would you ever want LESS money? |
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| 14:36.58 | Fisker | not nessecarily less money |
| 14:37.05 | Fisker | but atleast less pc sales, or |
| 14:37.37 | Fisker | I'm pretty sure shit like From Dust was to make people go "I want to play From Dust now" |
| 14:37.42 | Fisker | so you buy "From Dust" for the Xbox |
| 14:37.49 | Fisker | realize the controls are shitty on a console |
| 14:37.52 | Fisker | buy it on the PC |
| 14:37.52 | Fisker | ??? |
| 14:37.53 | Fisker | profit |
| 14:37.58 | Fisker | (for Ubisoft) |
| 14:38.11 | Fisker | But given the PC control scheme is even worse i can't see how that'll work out |
| 14:38.41 | Fisker | maybe they're trying to get less sales to argue that pirates are ruining their idiotic moves |
| 14:39.23 | Kraps | how do you know its worse? world builders best with a mouse n? |
| 14:39.29 | jnwhiteh | hi Fisker |
| 14:39.32 | Kraps | +o |
| 14:39.35 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:39.47 | Fisker | i played it Kraps |
| 14:39.57 | Fisker | it's like you need pixel-perfect coordination |
| 14:40.07 | Fisker | i spend like a minute selecting a fucking town at some point |
| 14:40.15 | Fisker | or rather a site to make a town |
| 14:40.53 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:40.57 | Fisker | i love you? |
| 14:40.59 | jnwhiteh | hey Fisker |
| 14:41.01 | jnwhiteh | I love you too! |
| 14:41.05 | Fisker | neat |
| 14:41.11 | Fisker | why are we heying eachother then? |
| 14:42.26 | Kraps | get a room |
| 14:42.28 | jnwhiteh | cause dota2 |
| 14:42.30 | jnwhiteh | that's why |
| 14:42.44 | Fisker | what? |
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| 14:44.29 | jnwhiteh | i want a game on steam |
| 14:44.31 | jnwhiteh | but its not out yet |
| 14:44.42 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:48.57 | Computerpunk | http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-presentation-countdown |
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| 14:51.37 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 14:54.39 | Fisker | and what can a free Fisker do about that? |
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| 15:03.40 | airtonix | not much |
| 15:12.05 | karl_w_w | how do i open beancounter when im not at a friggin auction house? |
| 15:12.29 | karl_w_w | curse addon writers that dont have obvious slash commands |
| 15:12.56 | karl_w_w | uses brain and adds beancounter to titan panel |
| 15:13.13 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.34 | airtonix | i don't know what that group of addon writers are thinking |
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| 15:22.28 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 15:33.45 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:40.29 | karl_w_w | An error has occurred. |
| 15:40.29 | karl_w_w | Link: Back to Battle.net Account Management |
| 15:40.40 | karl_w_w | clicks link |
| 15:40.40 | karl_w_w | An error has occurred. |
| 15:40.40 | karl_w_w | Link: Back to Battle.net Account Management |
| 15:40.58 | karl_w_w | I don't think this is going to work out |
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| 15:47.41 | airtonix | you sound mad |
| 15:48.27 | karl_w_w | truly gone fishing |
| 15:51.42 | blu_readingBook | @karl the cookies... |
| 15:51.45 | blu_readingBook | you must eat them! |
| 15:56.36 | airtonix | lol |
| 15:56.55 | airtonix | cowboys and indians and aliens and things that are born of fire |
| 15:57.06 | airtonix | this is BRILLIANT! |
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| 16:38.19 | Ackis | teabags blu_readingBook |
| 16:38.30 | blu_readingBook | lolz |
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| 16:55.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.kittyhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/hello-kitty-deodorant-400x527.jpg |
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| 17:15.03 | pantsninja | I still can't believe my super crappy addon is on Curse.... (yay me) |
| 17:15.29 | airtonix | umad? |
| 17:16.13 | |Jelly| | Wait until you get your first comment or someone asking to put it in a compilation. Then you can put on the *fuck yeah* face and get a beer. :D |
| 17:16.45 | nevcairiel | wait until it pays for the beer |
| 17:17.18 | pantsninja | hah. Unlikely. It's stupid simple and small and I want to keep it that way. There's other, heavier weight addons people seem to be using. |
| 17:17.19 | airtonix | wait until you're old enough to drink beer |
| 17:17.26 | |Jelly| | And there's where we separate those that are good at what they do and those that aren't. lol |
| 17:17.46 | pantsninja | airtonix: I've been old enough for nearly a decade. I don't care for it. |
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| 17:17.55 | airtonix | that's what she said |
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| 17:18.03 | |Jelly| | It doesn't have to be a big addon for people to like it. ;) |
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| 17:18.50 | pantsninja | For profession helper addons, the big, multifeatured ones are generally the ones that do better. Mine's gotten a few hundred DLs since it was put up in 4.1 |
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| 17:19.10 | Fisker | i hate NeoTron's addons |Jelly| |
| 17:19.16 | pantsninja | I;m not so mad about that. less people bitching |
| 17:20.26 | |Jelly| | You're Fisker. 'Nuff said about that. :P |
| 17:20.34 | Fisker | why |Jelly| ? |
| 17:20.40 | |Jelly| | You hate everything. |
| 17:20.55 | Fisker | well i particular hate tagging addons updated for a version of wow that they're not |
| 17:21.08 | |Jelly| | Ahh, well I can understand that. |
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| 17:22.27 | karl_w_w | what's the addon, pantsninja? |
| 17:22.39 | Nechckn | At night, Cairenn|afk sneaks through and updates TOC/marks AddOns from 1 and 2.x as "new for 4.3" |
| 17:22.47 | pantsninja | karl_w_w: Unearthed |
| 17:22.52 | Nechckn | just to watch the fun that ensues |
| 17:23.05 | pantsninja | It's still messy under the hood, but I'm cleaning it up to be more sane |
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| 17:24.02 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk7JcPBFdWw#t=2m45s |
| 17:24.14 | Fisker | the GT-I9220, is even bigger, with a MID-rivaling 5.29-inch 1280 x 820 Super AMOLED Plus panel, a dual-core 1.4GHz processor, 8-megapixel camera and Android 2.3 Gingerbread. |
| 17:24.18 | Fisker | how is that even possible? |
| 17:24.32 | pantsninja | I wish Curse let me update files faster than this. |
| 17:24.58 | pantsninja | Since there's a few bugs in 40.4 :( |
| 17:25.03 | pantsninja | er 0.4 |
| 17:26.44 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://imgur.com/gallery/eFXWo |
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| 17:28.43 | karl_w_w | oh wtf |
| 17:28.57 | karl_w_w | looking at my closest cinema's website |
| 17:29.15 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:29.18 | karl_w_w | new twilight movie on 17th of nov |
| 17:29.22 | Fisker | when did they add mac support to civilization 5? |
| 17:29.29 | karl_w_w | and a whole bunch of the sessions are already sold out |
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| 17:40.03 | airtonix | Fisker: why would you care? |
| 17:40.15 | Fisker | why would you have sex with men airtonix ? |
| 17:40.29 | airtonix | why would you? |
| 17:40.38 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 17:40.44 | airtonix | well then |
| 17:40.57 | airtonix | i guess that settles it |
| 17:42.15 | airtonix | http://www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/1239-smtp-tls-issue.html |
| 17:42.50 | Nechckn | Should we know better than to click on something in the transformer forums |
| 17:42.52 | Nechckn | ? |
| 17:43.29 | Nechckn | Here I was expecting megatron or something... |
| 17:43.31 | Lunessa | Yes, we should. |
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| 17:45.54 | airtonix | http://www.iphoneforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/1239-smtp-tls-issue.html |
| 17:45.59 | airtonix | better ? |
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| 17:52.15 | kd3 | whuhs at neth's curiouser post |
| 17:54.17 | Fisker | likes kd3 for free |
| 18:04.21 | Fisker | you know what i hate kd3 ? |
| 18:04.26 | kd3 | what's that? |
| 18:04.38 | Fisker | the usage of facebook for promotion |
| 18:04.56 | Fisker | (or anything really, but i hate promotion especially) |
| 18:05.04 | kd3 | I agree |
| 18:05.35 | Fisker | we should totally take over Blizzard then |
| 18:14.14 | Nechckn | Sort of 'meh' but can see this one happening - http://notalwaysright.com/feeder-mice-not-included/13033 |
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| 18:38.23 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/4ZOw5.jpg |
| 18:39.20 | Kraps | what the crap, download fail? http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/046/6/1/Rooftop__s_Edge_by_doubleleaf.jpg |
| 18:40.24 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 18:42.19 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/0pYoT.jpg |
| 18:43.12 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
| 18:44.10 | Fisker | old mckenziemc |
| 18:44.55 | Fisker | wow |
| 18:45.01 | Fisker | what a bunch of dicks Kraps |
| 18:45.44 | Kraps | i bet all those gamertags were a bunch a dicks yeah |
| 18:45.44 | Fisker | so basically they banned him forever |
| 18:45.48 | Fisker | naw Kraps |
| 18:45.54 | Fisker | Xbox live |
| 18:46.11 | Kraps | ok? |
| 18:46.29 | Fisker | dude he can't ever play again :( |
| 18:46.36 | Fisker | not without getting banned anyway |
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| 18:47.02 | Mr_Rabies | they say right there that if he follows the rules he won't get banned |
| 18:47.08 | Kraps | er, the rep said he could make a new account |
| 18:47.13 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:47.22 | Fisker | and use the service without interruption |
| 18:47.23 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 18:47.36 | Fisker | so the first time he stops playing he gets banned |
| 18:47.41 | Fisker | GEDDIT? |
| 18:48.01 | Mr_Rabies | slaps Fisker around a bit with a hamster |
| 18:48.05 | Fisker | umad? |
| 18:48.45 | Lunessa | We're all mad here. |
| 18:49.04 | Kraps | offers Fisker some derp http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/070/0/2/derpy_hooves_by_timon1771-d3bdye5.png |
| 18:49.39 | Fisker | umaaaaaaad |
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| 18:51.14 | Kraps | its a pony, i can be mad |
| 18:51.18 | Kraps | cant* |
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| 18:55.04 | Fisker | :O |
| 18:55.09 | Fisker | someone got MURDERED in my town |
| 18:56.22 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
| 18:56.25 | |Jelly| | oh noes |
| 18:57.13 | Fisker | oh nos |Jelly| |
| 19:02.40 | Lunessa | Dear lady calling from Montreal to complain that our server is slow. It's not slow. The problem is either on your end or your ISP's end. I suspect your ISP. No, there is no magic button I can push to make it go faster for you. |
| 19:04.58 | nicoli_s | well there is you just arent willing to do it |
| 19:05.45 | Kraps | you just need to clean out the tubes |
| 19:05.46 | Fisker | Lunessa please |
| 19:05.48 | Fisker | i know you're lying |
| 19:05.53 | Fisker | i can access my email just fine |
| 19:05.56 | Fisker | and i can even play wow fine |
| 19:06.04 | Fisker | it's obviously your server that is the issue |
| 19:06.19 | Lunessa | Pfft... You're not even in Montreal. |
| 19:07.37 | Fisker | that isn't relevant |
| 19:07.41 | Fisker | internet is powered by magic |
| 19:07.58 | Fisker | magic doesn't just not work |
| 19:08.02 | Fisker | it either works or it backfires |
| 19:19.48 | Lunessa | Or drains your vitae and sucks your soul to hell. |
| 19:20.43 | Kraps | http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/koma-comic-strip-what-did-you-say.jpg |
| 19:21.19 | kd3 | taps his foot waiting for the 4.2.2 patch |
| 19:24.20 | blu_readingBook | @kd3 mine was 18MB |
| 19:24.40 | kd3 | yah, I got it. pulling out the UI now |
| 19:25.01 | blu_readingBook | slap it |
| 19:25.04 | blu_readingBook | with a large salami |
| 19:25.07 | blu_readingBook | called george |
| 19:30.34 | Computerpunk | Fisker: I herd you killed a man. |
| 19:30.34 | Computerpunk | http://www.myfacewhen.com/images/312.jpg |
| 19:32.24 | Parnic | "i herd you. killed a man." |
| 19:36.52 | kd3 | emails away |
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| 20:00.57 | |Jelly| | cogwheel: PIIIIIIIING! |
| 20:01.05 | cogwheel | POOOOOOOONG |
| 20:01.37 | |Jelly| | What ISP do you use? |
| 20:01.42 | cogwheel | AT&T U-verse |
| 20:02.11 | |Jelly| | le sigh ... WTB capless ISP in the bay area? |
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| 20:07.05 | Lunessa | I use AT&T U-Verse too. |
| 20:07.52 | Mr_Rabies | be happy you have broadband available at all :( |
| 20:08.20 | Mr_Rabies | i live in the boonies and i'm stuck on 3megabit, which most people don't even consider broadband at this point |
| 20:08.44 | Fisker | once i did Computerpunk |
| 20:08.45 | Mr_Rabies | i believe it's 6 megabit/s or higher now, according to the FCC |
| 20:10.49 | |Jelly| | Well, it's likely not a concern beyond me doing stupid things but Comcast and AT&T have their 250GB cap, right? Well I used 20% of that the other day as a joke on Reddit and now I'm all paranoid. |
| 20:12.03 | Lunessa | Holy shit. You used 50GB in a day? |
| 20:12.11 | |Jelly| | Yeah. |
| 20:12.19 | cogwheel | when i go to the uverse site to check my usage it says: |
| 20:12.22 | cogwheel | Note: Your usage is not yet available for display. You should not be concerned about your usage for billing purposes. AT&T will keep you informed about your data usage via email. |
| 20:12.28 | cogwheel | Gee thanks |
| 20:12.52 | Lunessa | Dude. I stream movies from Netflix almost every day and I never get close to the cap. |
| 20:12.56 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 20:13.31 | |Jelly| | I was going to post a picture of me uninstalling Steam to r/gaming to see the response but instead of some awesome graphic, it was just a Windows Installer window that automagically disappeared when it was done. So when I reinstalled .. 50GB gone. |
| 20:13.49 | Lunessa | Also, GT peoples we just need Throne of the Four Winds to get the Dark Phoenix mount. |
| 20:14.16 | Fisker | only 50GB? |
| 20:14.28 | |Jelly| | Yeah, I only have like six games. |
| 20:14.49 | Fisker | i once hit 200GB in a day |
| 20:14.50 | Fisker | BAM |
| 20:15.20 | |Jelly| | Congratulations, your Steam collection is bigger than mine? |
| 20:15.25 | cogwheel | over half my steam games were free inclusions with GPUs and such... |
| 20:15.46 | foxlit | you either bought a lot of CPUs |
| 20:15.49 | foxlit | or really don't play much |
| 20:15.54 | Cide | or both |
| 20:15.55 | foxlit | s/C/G/ obviously |
| 20:15.56 | cogwheel | both |
| 20:16.06 | Fisker | |Jelly| who said anything about Steam? :3 |
| 20:16.13 | |Jelly| | Ok. Porn. |
| 20:16.13 | cogwheel | well, 3 in the last 4 years, but still |
| 20:16.25 | foxlit | the normal cycle is what, 1 in 2 years? |
| 20:16.28 | |Jelly| | And Lunessa: I hate that place so much ... but I do want that mount. le sigh |
| 20:16.37 | Fisker | porn? |
| 20:16.38 | Fisker | Naw |
| 20:16.49 | Fisker | lets just say it was royalty free tv shows |
| 20:16.50 | Fisker | hoho |
| 20:16.51 | foxlit | Throne == Most awesome instance in that tier |
| 20:18.38 | Lunessa | We should be able to knock it out in a night. |
| 20:18.50 | |Jelly| | Should. |
| 20:18.51 | cogwheel | we have shatter tonight according to the calendar |
| 20:19.00 | foxlit | Though I don't know. |
| 20:19.23 | foxlit | Al'Akir is slightly trickier than your average dragon |
| 20:19.49 | Lunessa | The ONE time we tried it, we couldn't get people to grok the platofrm swaps. |
| 20:19.51 | cogwheel | how does it compare to cho'gall? (who we got on our 2nd attempt evar) |
| 20:20.20 | foxlit | cho'gall is up to two tanks. |
| 20:20.27 | Cide | lol |
| 20:20.32 | Cide | while stuff may be easy now |
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| 20:20.36 | Cide | al'akir is not going to be trivial |
| 20:20.43 | Cide | it's about 90% execution |
| 20:20.57 | Cide | cho'gall is the inverse more or less |
| 20:20.59 | foxlit | has tons more fun stuff |
| 20:21.03 | |Jelly| | Well. We're fucked. I'm going to start drinking now. |
| 20:21.04 | cogwheel | in other words 90% of the time i'll be annoyed at other people doing things wrong? :P |
| 20:21.10 | Cide | no |
| 20:21.12 | Cide | 100% of the time |
| 20:21.12 | Lunessa | Well, average raid night is 2.5 hours. Which ought to be enough time to figure it out. |
| 20:21.59 | foxlit | haven't seen it since 4.0 |
| 20:22.05 | Lunessa | Though I haven't raided as DPS in so long I probably suck. |
| 20:22.09 | foxlit | but it took longer than 2.5 hours for 25 people to figure out |
| 20:22.31 | cogwheel | we're 10, and we sohuld make people watch videos again |
| 20:22.54 | |Jelly| | lol /make/ |
| 20:23.04 | foxlit | I don't like the "watch a video!" school of raidleading |
| 20:23.10 | cogwheel | i don't either |
| 20:23.21 | Cide | why not |
| 20:23.29 | cogwheel | except that the goal is to get the old tier out of the way so we don't have lingering achievements |
| 20:23.59 | Cide | being prepared to do meaningful things like learning how to work together is the core part of raiding |
| 20:24.29 | Cide | going up against the unknown is of course exciting but now there's the encounter journal anyway |
| 20:24.45 | |Jelly| | Step 1: Having the same group to learn together with. |
| 20:24.51 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 20:25.02 | cogwheel | Our roster is schizophrenic |
| 20:25.20 | Lunessa | Almost as crazy ad I am |
| 20:25.27 | cogwheel | there's like 4 of us who have been to nearly every raid |
| 20:25.35 | foxlit | My opinion is that you should be able to extract superior information just from attempting the boss yourself |
| 20:25.35 | |Jelly| | Guild created 11-19-2008, 161 players, 39 accounts <-- |
| 20:26.13 | cogwheel | foxlit: i agree. you learn "better" but not "faster." in the case of knocking out "stale" content, i'll opt for faster :P |
| 20:26.21 | |Jelly| | With Kamdis and I comprising 4 of those accounts; Lunessa being 2+, etc. :| |
| 20:26.48 | foxlit | Plus it breeds "Hey guys how do we do this?" "Go watch that video!" |
| 20:28.15 | |Jelly| | For a first attempt ever, isn't that kind of what it's goingt o be regardless? |
| 20:28.42 | Lunessa | foxlit: I prefer to do the encounters to learn them. But I also like have tools to fall back on when I don't get it. I used a video for the Cho'Gall fight because I wanted to do it fast, but everything else has been learn-by-getting-my-face-smashed. |
| 20:28.48 | Fisker | goodnight sweet cogwheel |
| 20:29.06 | cogwheel | goodnight sweaty Fisker |
| 20:29.28 | Lunessa | My raiders are sick of hearing me say "Ok, lets try this and see what happens" followed later by "Ok, now we've seen it and have more of a clue." |
| 20:30.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:31.23 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 20:32.14 | batrick | can a c++ pro tell me what "::func(...)" means |
| 20:32.22 | batrick | Shirik: ^ |
| 20:32.45 | cogwheel | :: disambiguates scope |
| 20:33.01 | cogwheel | ::func would mean func is outside any namespace |
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| 20:33.05 | Fisker | doubl double dot func paranthesis triple horisontal dot parenthesis batrick |
| 20:33.13 | Fisker | stop being a jerk cogwheel |
| 20:33.18 | cogwheel | JERSK |
| 20:33.30 | batrick | cogwheel: would that call the method in the same class? |
| 20:33.35 | cogwheel | no |
| 20:33.36 | batrick | in this case the func name is stat |
| 20:33.39 | cogwheel | it would call a global called funck |
| 20:33.45 | cogwheel | func* |
| 20:33.46 | Fisker | funck? |
| 20:33.48 | Fisker | baw |
| 20:33.49 | batrick | so it is ambiguous I guess |
| 20:33.56 | Cide | hm? |
| 20:33.59 | cogwheel | no |
| 20:34.02 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 20:34.08 | batrick | it calls the stdlib stat? |
| 20:34.11 | cogwheel | if you have a method called func, that's how you would access a global called funk |
| 20:34.17 | Cide | you suck cogwheel |
| 20:34.18 | cogwheel | FUCK YOU K & C KEYS |
| 20:34.31 | batrick | ya i don't know what a "global" is in C++ |
| 20:34.34 | batrick | i'm a C person |
| 20:34.36 | Cide | same as in C? |
| 20:34.38 | cogwheel | it's the same |
| 20:34.44 | batrick | ok |
| 20:34.45 | Cide | a method outside of any struct or class |
| 20:34.47 | cogwheel | any variable that isn't inside another scope |
| 20:34.48 | Cide | or namespace |
| 20:35.09 | cogwheel | s/variable/name/ |
| 20:35.16 | batrick | fml |
| 20:35.50 | batrick | so if I had a "stat" method in the same class, and I want to call that method, I should just do stat(...) |
| 20:35.59 | Cide | yes |
| 20:36.03 | batrick | ty <3 |
| 20:36.12 | Cide | or this->stat() if you want to make it more clear |
| 20:36.19 | batrick | even better |
| 20:36.22 | batrick | <3 <3 |
| 20:36.42 | Cide | what brings you to C++ land anyway? |
| 20:37.01 | batrick | something my advisor wrote when he was a grad student |
| 20:37.06 | batrick | and for whatever reason he used c++ |
| 20:37.08 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 20:37.17 | batrick | (he doesn't like c++ currently) |
| 20:37.27 | batrick | i'm fixing/augmenting it |
| 20:37.37 | Lunessa | Because C++ was the lingua franca of the world when he was a grad student. |
| 20:38.13 | Cide | and now it's C? -_- |
| 20:38.17 | Cide | (I think not!) |
| 20:38.41 | Lunessa | Cide I'm just (sort of) trolling. |
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| 20:39.23 | Cide | excellent |
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| 20:41.30 | batrick | my advisor is older and wiser now |
| 20:41.37 | batrick | he sees the error of his ways |
| 20:41.44 | batrick | too bad shirik does not |
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| 20:43.04 | mckenziemc | 'Road sign in Guadeloupe Creole meaning Slow down. Children are playing here. The literal translation is "Lift your foot. Small people are playing here".' |
| 20:43.47 | batrick | i know wtf is wrong with them thinking children are people |
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| 20:56.45 | batrick | ugh |
| 20:56.50 | batrick | how do I shut this up: "error: ISO C++ forbids casting to an array type âchar [][1025]â" |
| 20:57.04 | Cide | #include <vector> |
| 20:57.14 | nevcairiel | not using ISO C++ will make it shutup |
| 20:57.28 | nevcairiel | or use pointer types. :p |
| 20:57.39 | Cide | I like my solution the best? |
| 20:57.43 | Parnic | you can also "export LC_ALL=C" and "export LANG=C" to get rid of the garbage chars, fyi :) |
| 20:58.12 | Cide | if you're going to do C++ at least do C++ |
| 20:58.17 | Cide | don't do some ghetto C-style C++ |
| 20:59.35 | batrick | i have to use "ghetto C-style" because this is a system call interface |
| 20:59.38 | batrick | meaning primitive types |
| 20:59.41 | batrick | meaning no diapers |
| 20:59.56 | Cide | a system call interface that takes char[][]? |
| 20:59.59 | Cide | ew? |
| 21:00.22 | nevcairiel | it probably takes char** |
| 21:00.29 | batrick | no |
| 21:00.32 | Cide | or he just has an array of char* |
| 21:00.36 | batrick | no |
| 21:00.43 | batrick | it is what I said it was :P |
| 21:00.52 | nevcairiel | you didnt say anything |
| 21:01.25 | batrick | "array type âchar [][1025]â" |
| 21:01.25 | Cide | that's what you have |
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| 21:01.25 | Cide | but is that really what the system call takes |
| 21:01.31 | Cide | or is that just your intermediary structure |
| 21:01.42 | batrick | how does including the vector header file help me? or are you telling me cheekily to use vectors instead of C arrays |
| 21:01.48 | Cide | yes |
| 21:01.52 | batrick | it is what the system call takes |
| 21:02.07 | nevcairiel | thats a f'ing ugly system you're using there. :p |
| 21:02.07 | Cide | std::vector<std::string> together with std::string::c_str() if you only need a char* |
| 21:03.14 | Cide | batrick: anyway, it seems like you can't cast back to an array, only to a pointer to the first element |
| 21:03.34 | Cide | see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3917240/casting-from-void-to-an-object-array-in-c/3917278#3917278 |
| 21:03.44 | batrick | yes i found that |
| 21:03.49 | batrick | it appears I'm fucked |
| 21:04.09 | Cide | you can't pass in a char**? |
| 21:04.26 | nevcairiel | Just pass around all variables already as that array type, dont try to cast it to that |
| 21:04.27 | batrick | char **'s are not viable in a system call |
| 21:04.31 | batrick | they are too expensive |
| 21:04.46 | batrick | which is why I'm passing a single pointer to a block of memory |
| 21:04.53 | batrick | hence the big 2'd array |
| 21:05.20 | Cide | well you kept saying you had to use char[][1025] earlier :P |
| 21:05.29 | batrick | I do? |
| 21:05.40 | Cide | but now you're saying it takes a single pointer to a block of memory |
| 21:05.52 | batrick | that's what a char[][X] is |
| 21:06.12 | Cide | I guess I don't see the distinction, but I'm a newb |
| 21:06.51 | nevcairiel | anyhow, C++ does not allow casting to array types, so go figure out something else. :) |
| 21:06.56 | batrick | is there a magic c++ invocation to just tell the compiler to ignore that |
| 21:07.07 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:07.26 | nevcairiel | write a C app, then you can do that. :p |
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| 21:08.24 | Cide | extern "C" ? |
| 21:08.26 | batrick | I don't really feel like rewriting a program that's half c++ composed of dozens of thousands of loc |
| 21:08.40 | nevcairiel | Cide: thats only for linkage, i dont think it actually changes the compilers rules |
| 21:09.08 | nevcairiel | but he can surely try it. :p |
| 21:09.33 | Cide | if you really wanted to maybe you could create a new memory block and memcpy to it |
| 21:09.35 | Cide | from the old |
| 21:09.42 | Cide | if you really feel like being suicidal |
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| 21:14.14 | batrick | man |
| 21:14.26 | batrick | C++ is going to make me fucking do the pointer arithmetic myself I guess |
| 21:14.35 | batrick | zzz |
| 21:15.30 | nevcairiel | You thought you could use C++ and get away without any pointer arithmetic? |
| 21:15.52 | nevcairiel | Its not like they re-implemented every C library call into a neat C++ interface |
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| 21:36.53 | Antze | gah it's c++ night |
| 21:38.51 | Cide | who are you? |
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| 21:39.59 | Antze | surprising question |
| 21:40.06 | Antze | I guess my answer is "some random person" |
| 21:41.02 | Antze | somewhat working with c++ and currently working on some yet unfinished addons |
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| 21:46.25 | cogwheel | |Jelly|: why did this make me think of you? (no really, why? I can't figure it out) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qq6onsqENc |
| 21:46.30 | cogwheel | (nsfw if you turn the sound on) |
| 21:48.55 | karl_w_w | Cide: who are you? who who, who who? |
| 21:49.08 | karl_w_w | is too tired to wait around for the answer |
| 21:49.21 | Cide | YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE YARR |
| 21:51.04 | Seerah | cogwheel: hehe |
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| 21:59.20 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences4/accents |
| 22:03.11 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:15.15 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:18.46 | Arrowmaster | http://notalwaysright.com/thou-shalt-not-covenant-thy-neighbor/12445 |
| 22:28.31 | jnwhiteh | Anyone planning on flying from London to Blizzcon? |
| 22:28.39 | jnwhiteh | Ping me if you are, I'd never pass down a travel buddy |
| 22:29.14 | Thunder_Child | even if it was Fisker? |
| 22:29.23 | jnwhiteh | Fisker could sit on my lap |
| 22:29.25 | jnwhiteh | cause we're in love |
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| 22:36.32 | Kraps | so theres a game called The Binding of Isaac... |
| 22:36.44 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/113200/ |
| 22:38.38 | Lunessa | Seerah: <3. |
| 22:39.45 | Lunessa | Way to put the smack-down on dufus with wrong answer on a necro'ed thread. |
| 22:58.48 | Cairenn | http://thedesigninspiration.com/articles/70-cutie-baby-animals-bring-your-a-good-mood/ |
| 23:02.44 | nicoli_s | awww |
| 23:03.26 | nicoli_s | speaking of awesome animal pictures: http://www.humandescent.com/ |
| 23:03.49 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Awwww. |
| 23:06.29 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/pictures-you-need-to-see-before-the-world-ends |
| 23:07.09 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 23:07.15 | jnwhiteh | I don't get 32 |
| 23:07.17 | jnwhiteh | just ignore it |
| 23:07.20 | jnwhiteh | pretend its not there. |
| 23:07.28 | jnwhiteh | 00:07 <#minecraft> Snowman: !akick remove *!*i.eat.babies.freebnc.net |
| 23:07.29 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 23:08.20 | nicoli_s | why is that giant rat playing with hula hoops in the pool |
| 23:10.02 | nicoli_s | as part owner of a hula hoop business i am outraged |
| 23:12.58 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 23:21.20 | Kraps | huh? http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/08/spoilers-dont-spoil-anything.ars |
| 23:21.53 | Klrth | Kraps, i wanted to read that article why spoil it |
| 23:22.03 | Kraps | hoho |
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| 23:37.30 | Arrowmaster | hmm my hair is now long enough that i can sit on it |
| 23:38.02 | Thunder_Child | is this a good thing or a bad thing? |
| 23:38.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 23:39.17 | Arrowmaster | its only been 8 years since i last had a hair cut |
| 23:40.22 | Kraps | wow |
| 23:44.31 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: I finally got sick of mine, chopped it all off a couple weeks ago |
| 23:44.48 | Maldivia | all? as in razor? |
| 23:44.59 | Cairenn | No, but chin length is pretty drastic |
| 23:45.19 | Arrowmaster | 8 years ago mine was as short as you can go without using a razor |
| 23:45.33 | Thunder_Child | all of it? |
| 23:46.10 | Arrowmaster | but i have to either keep it extremely short or let it grow long enough i can tie it back, otherwise my hair is just too curly to handle |
| 23:46.11 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: who was that directed at? |
| 23:47.03 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: you, though i seem to be having an interesting lag spike |
| 23:47.14 | Cairenn | Ah |
| 23:48.34 | Maldivia | I could use a haircut soonish... although I am considering the razor approach |
| 23:48.56 | Maldivia | but think I'm too lazy to keep it :P |
| 23:49.21 | Kraps | "Spoiler Haters are still living within the Gutenburg parenthesis. Time to get with the times." WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN |
| 23:52.34 | Maldivia | that we still rely on printed paper ? |
| 23:53.35 | Kraps | how is that related to spoilers in any way? |
| 23:53.39 | Kraps | brb |
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