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| 00:07.38 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 00:08.20 | foxlit | What's the second part of notify()? |
| 00:08.52 | foxlit | wait(); not actually what I was thinking of :( |
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| 00:17.40 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 00:17.50 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 00:17.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: which media players do you use? |
| 00:18.03 | Arrowmaster | mplayer2 |
| 00:18.13 | foxlit | # Are you gonna eat your squirrel? |
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| 00:24.11 | Adys | Anyone else in the chan with strong feelings about their media player? |
| 00:24.22 | Adys | (not vlc; pref qt) |
| 00:24.59 | Jamash | vlc imo |
| 00:25.16 | Adys | im looking at alternatives to vlc |
| 00:25.19 | Adys | so i dont care |
| 00:25.24 | Jamash | have you tried vlc? |
| 00:25.39 | Arrowmaster | i use mplayer2+smplayer |
| 00:25.47 | Adys | who are you, the ambassador of haveyoutried? |
| 00:25.50 | Mikk | mplayerc-homecinema |
| 00:25.58 | Mikk | if windows |
| 00:26.00 | Jamash | yes |
| 00:26.05 | Adys | linux only Mikk soz =P |
| 00:26.12 | Arrowmaster | the shittyness of vlc on windows put me off from ever using it even on linux |
| 00:26.22 | Adys | thats funny |
| 00:26.30 | Mikk | good code. shitty shitty shitty shitty ui |
| 00:26.32 | Adys | the shittiness of firefox on linux put me off from ever using it on windows |
| 00:27.00 | Mikk | the vlc UI screams "HAI IM A PROGRAMMER IT WAS HARD TO WRITE SO IT SHOULD BE HARD TO USE" |
| 00:27.11 | Adys | Mikk: the vlc ui is really modulable |
| 00:27.16 | Jamash|vlcimo | yeah pressing "play" is so difficult |
| 00:27.17 | Adys | unless you're talking about the default one |
| 00:27.38 | Mikk | yeah now load up some subtitles... that are out of sync. . and you need to find the right sync |
| 00:27.39 | foxlit | I recall VLC having many more buttons |
| 00:27.46 | foxlit | And always complaining about fonts |
| 00:27.50 | Jamash|vlcimo | and the windows file open dialog is a real bitch to use |
| 00:27.55 | Mikk | no kidding |
| 00:28.06 | Adys | I'm getting more and more PO'd at vlc because of pulseaudio, sync and as foxlit mentioned fonts |
| 00:28.07 | Mikk | 2 layers of clickage just to open a fucking file |
| 00:28.19 | Jamash|vlcimo | oh cool, vlc 1.1.11 is out, I'ma download it |
| 00:28.28 | Mikk | do. security fix iirc |
| 00:28.44 | Adys | also im starting to get uncomfortable at the idea im using the same media player as Jamash |
| 00:28.55 | Jamash|vlcimo | your loss sweetheart |
| 00:29.34 | Jamash|vlcimo | I need to run an ethernet cable between my granddad's house and my house |
| 00:29.35 | Mikk | now if only mplayerc did rars |
| 00:30.14 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.16 | Adys | ah god |
| 00:30.19 | Adys | ffmpeg :( |
| 00:31.18 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/temp/notify << ew, it's longer than the rest of that file :/ |
| 00:31.24 | Arrowmaster | Adys: for what? |
| 00:31.29 | Adys | mplayer2 |
| 00:31.34 | Jamash|vlcimo | Mikk: rar2fs |
| 00:31.35 | Adys | Arrowmaster: what are the ffmpeg libs req for mplayer2? |
| 00:31.45 | Arrowmaster | mines compliled against libav |
| 00:31.47 | Mikk | Jamash|vlcimo: wrong os |
| 00:32.03 | Jamash|vlcimo | Mikk: l2linux |
| 00:32.27 | Mikk | can't be arsed to fiddle with things that Should Just Work for hours at end any more |
| 00:32.36 | Arrowmaster | Adys: theres a package for mplayer2 in debian experimental, grab the source for it and use its debian dir to make a package |
| 00:32.42 | Jamash|vlcimo | l2bebetteratlinux |
| 00:32.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I like compiling |
| 00:33.02 | Mikk | jamash the problem is more along the lines that hardware vendors need to support linux |
| 00:33.03 | Arrowmaster | Adys: i didnt say to use the binary package |
| 00:33.06 | Jamash|vlcimo | Adys: Arrowmaster is telling you to get the source package |
| 00:33.11 | Adys | oh |
| 00:33.19 | Adys | meh, cba |
| 00:33.39 | dardack_ | ok i give up on programing a QT menu to add my xosd to mumble, hardcoding ftw, i suck |
| 00:33.42 | Arrowmaster | i havent tried building it directly from git recently |
| 00:33.44 | Jamash | Mikk: so start using it and bitching to your hardware vendors that they need to support it better |
| 00:34.01 | Adys | Mikk: this morning I made my mom boot into recovery mode, fire up vim, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to change the port, and use lynx to port forward 22 to her laptop |
| 00:34.10 | Adys | so that i could ssh into the damn box and fix the login screen. |
| 00:34.24 | Jamash | Adys: o/ |
| 00:34.34 | Arrowmaster | im impressed |
| 00:34.48 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I install alpha software on my mother's laptop. FML. |
| 00:35.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah bad move |
| 00:35.13 | Arrowmaster | install debian stable and it will never break |
| 00:35.18 | Jamash | I install mac software on my mother's laptop |
| 00:35.25 | Adys | i install debian stable and she'll never use it |
| 00:35.39 | Mikk | hmmmm backports.org? |
| 00:35.44 | Arrowmaster | i doubt she would tell the difference |
| 00:35.53 | Jamash | ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 00:35.57 | Adys | i dont need her to feel any older as it is |
| 00:36.11 | Adys | anyway wtf is up with ffmpeg, it has no dev package anywhere |
| 00:36.30 | Jamash | ffmpeg is special |
| 00:37.25 | Jamash | is there a decent cross-platform irc client that supports tiling channel windows inside the application window? |
| 00:37.29 | Adys | adys@azura ~/src/mplayer2/build % sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer2 | grep ffmpeg |
| 00:37.48 | Jamash | mplayer embeds their own ffmpeg afaik |
| 00:37.57 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: not mplayer2 |
| 00:38.08 | xyphoid | that tiling thing's the mirc feature i miss yeah |
| 00:38.26 | Arrowmaster | Adys: the dev packages are stuff like libav*-dev, libpostproc-dev, and libswscale-dev |
| 00:38.42 | Adys | i have those from building vlc |
| 00:39.06 | Arrowmaster | does ubuntu still use ffmpeg or libav now? |
| 00:39.12 | Adys | shrug |
| 00:39.17 | Adys | lemme check config.log |
| 00:39.28 | Adys | libavutil/avutil.h |
| 00:39.41 | Adys | adys@azura ~/src/mplayer2/build % sudo apt-get install libavutil.h |
| 00:39.41 | Arrowmaster | thats in both |
| 00:39.42 | Adys | oh yeah im smart |
| 00:40.01 | foxlit | eh, someone set the anzu mount on fire |
| 00:40.04 | Adys | i have libavutil-dev |
| 00:40.05 | Adys | :/ |
| 00:41.23 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5824138/the-best-solid-snake-cosplay-at-comic+con-officially/gallery/ |
| 00:41.35 | Jamash | it's a cardboard box |
| 00:41.41 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 00:41.48 | Jamash | waits for page to load... |
| 00:42.10 | Corrodias | hahahahah |
| 00:42.33 | Jamash | wtf |
| 00:42.54 | Arrowmaster | its an actual camo from MGS3 |
| 00:44.04 | Iriel | Camo for WHAT? Operating on a 70's porn set? |
| 00:44.24 | Jamash | I briefly forgot that MGS is a giant troll on everyone who isn't hideo kojima |
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| 01:05.11 | Fisker | btw lulz |
| 01:05.40 | Fisker | Blizzard is keeping the topics about the norwegian killer alive on purpose O_o |
| 01:09.38 | Jamash | wut |
| 01:11.00 | Adys | Arrowmaster: is there a configure option to change the default config dir ~/.mplayer? |
| 01:11.27 | Fisker | yeah Jamash |
| 01:15.12 | Jamash | are there no helicopters in norway? |
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| 01:15.34 | Fisker | there are |
| 01:18.33 | Jamash | are there helicopter in oslo? |
| 01:18.36 | Jamash | *s |
| 01:18.44 | Fisker | yes |
| 01:18.52 | Jamash | so... |
| 01:18.55 | Fisker | so? |
| 01:19.07 | Jamash | how come they were going to this island by boat |
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| 01:19.41 | Fisker | because it's easier? |
| 01:19.47 | lucky | because i don't think there's enough space for a helicopter to land based on the photos i've seen of the island |
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| 01:19.56 | lucky | it's heavily wooded |
| 01:20.01 | Fisker | just like my penis |
| 01:20.28 | Jamash | I hear some helicopters have pontoons, confirm/deny? |
| 01:20.31 | mckenziemc | sounds like a problem |
| 01:21.33 | Jamash | also I also hear some helicopters have snipers in them |
| 01:21.58 | Fisker | Jamash this is Norway they don't spend the >BNP of Norway on Military |
| 01:22.19 | Jamash | so they only have one sniper, and he was on his lunch break? |
| 01:22.21 | Fisker | also a chopper with a sniper in it would be very useless |
| 01:22.28 | Jamash | well, you have a point |
| 01:22.35 | Fisker | since 1. he had already pretty much executed everyone by the time he got there and 2. he would be dead |
| 01:22.40 | Fisker | they* |
| 01:24.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: woot |
| 01:24.33 | Adys | http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~scarabeus/mplayer2/0002-Add-initial-support-for-XDG-when-obtaining-user-conf.patch |
| 01:24.37 | Adys | ~gentoo++ |
| 01:24.46 | Jamash | ~gentoo-- |
| 01:24.49 | Adys | ~gentoo++ |
| 01:24.55 | Jamash | ~Adys-- |
| 01:25.02 | Adys | ~Jamash-- |
| 01:25.07 | Adys | karmafight. |
| 01:25.10 | Jamash | ~Fisker++ |
| 01:25.16 | Adys | ~fisker++ |
| 01:25.26 | Jamash | DUCK SEASON |
| 01:25.34 | Fisker | umad? |
| 01:25.45 | Jamash | as hell |
| 01:25.47 | Jamash | and |
| 01:25.52 | Jamash | I'm not going to take it |
| 01:25.55 | Jamash | anymore |
| 01:26.02 | Jamash | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:26.37 | Fisker | oh god |
| 01:26.39 | Fisker | i'm fucked |
| 01:26.42 | Fisker | F U C K E D |
| 01:27.09 | Jamash | did the ban on llama porn finally pass? |
| 01:27.55 | Fisker | fortunately not |
| 01:28.07 | Adys | Arrowmaster: halp |
| 01:28.09 | Adys | with this patch |
| 01:28.09 | Adys | path.c:(.text+0x19): undefined reference to `xdg_get_dir' |
| 01:29.56 | Jamash | should probably define the reference to xdg_get_dir |
| 01:31.01 | mckenziemc | maybe |
| 01:31.08 | Adys | funny, it's defined |
| 01:31.49 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.59 | Dagmar | we when |
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| 01:32.13 | Adys | just did, same thing |
| 01:32.23 | Dagmar | Freaky |
| 01:32.44 | Adys | error: path.c: patch does not apply |
| 01:32.47 | Adys | oh well that makes more sense |
| 01:32.51 | Adys | thanks for warning me git |
| 01:32.52 | Dagmar | Check that the header file that contains it is reasonably findable by the compiler |
| 01:32.55 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 01:33.09 | Arrowmaster | never saw that patch before |
| 01:33.14 | Adys | its a gentoo patch |
| 01:35.08 | Adys | Dagmar: nope, still the same thing with patch |
| 01:35.18 | Adys | it applies with patch -p1; its just git apply that fails |
| 01:35.49 | Jamash | git is the best vcs ever imo |
| 01:36.54 | Jamash | it makes doing anything so difficult that only experienced software developers will try to use it thus cutting down on bug reports from clueless "users" |
| 01:37.19 | Adys | not really |
| 01:37.35 | Adys | people are just prejudiced against it, giving it a hard-to-use reputation, hence cutting down on the clueless userbase |
| 01:38.08 | Arrowmaster | there arent noob friendly guis like tsvn or thg so people yell 'omg its hard' |
| 01:38.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: do me a favour, get that patch applied |
| 01:38.33 | Jamash | oh it's very easy to use, you just have to be linus torvalds |
| 01:38.47 | Jamash | if you're not linus torvalds, you're outside the intended user base |
| 01:39.00 | Jamash | therefore any difficulties you encounter are a result of user error |
| 01:39.24 | Arrowmaster | Adys: wtf that patch has a 2001 date on it |
| 01:39.29 | Adys | 2011 |
| 01:39.36 | Adys | 2011-Apr-05 11:38:08 |
| 01:39.39 | Arrowmaster | From 8cfdf2c41e3dbd1ae7d763c10829c9bfc0c4c817 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 01:39.47 | Adys | yeah, git does that |
| 01:39.49 | Adys | i dont know why |
| 01:39.54 | Adys | my patches give the same sort of date |
| 01:40.26 | Jamash | might have something to do with the fact that git is bad |
| 01:40.35 | Dagmar | You'll find out in 2067 |
| 01:40.35 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 01:40.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~scarabeus/mplayer2/ |
| 01:40.51 | Adys | the whole patchset should be applied |
| 01:40.54 | Adys | except 0001 probably |
| 01:41.23 | Adys | oh ffs |
| 01:41.28 | Adys | it needs |
| 01:41.28 | Adys | + xdg.c \ |
| 01:41.30 | Adys | in the makefile |
| 01:41.38 | Adys | which is in 0001 instead of 0002 |
| 01:41.43 | Jamash | lololololol |
| 01:41.47 | Dagmar | block - piston1 - piston2 |
| 01:42.02 | Fisker | ~karma Fisker |
| 01:42.02 | purl | fisker has karma of 19 |
| 01:42.07 | Jamash | Adys: I hear VLC works pretty well without you having to edit patchsets by hand |
| 01:42.15 | Arrowmaster | looks like a bad patchset then since xdg.c is introduced in 0002 |
| 01:42.19 | Adys | Jamash: wtf is your problem? |
| 01:42.25 | Adys | this is an optional patchset |
| 01:42.28 | Adys | i just want ~/.config |
| 01:42.34 | Adys | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 01:42.37 | Adys | but it can be cleaned up |
| 01:43.28 | Adys | ill email the maintainer |
| 01:43.29 | Jamash | Adys: u bad mro? |
| 01:46.21 | Adys | there we go |
| 01:47.26 | Adys | os.path.sep.join() |
| 01:47.26 | Adys | oh |
| 01:47.28 | Adys | that is EVIL |
| 01:53.32 | Adys | Arrowmaster: does mplayer have keybinds for speed up/down video? |
| 01:53.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 01:53.43 | Arrowmaster | [ and ] |
| 01:53.55 | Arrowmaster | at least inside smplayer |
| 01:53.59 | Adys | yep works |
| 01:54.04 | Adys | and |
| 01:54.07 | Adys | next frame? |
| 01:54.11 | Arrowmaster | . |
| 01:54.26 | Adys | how do I unpause it after that? |
| 01:54.37 | Arrowmaster | space |
| 01:54.42 | Adys | apparently not |
| 01:54.56 | Arrowmaster | does for me |
| 01:55.21 | Adys | is smplayer gtk? |
| 01:56.05 | Adys | oh its qt |
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| 02:07.07 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 02:07.08 | Fisker | umad? |
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| 02:45.42 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/11420/?snr=1_4_4__43 Clive Barker's Jericho by Clive Barker |
| 02:48.20 | bluspacecow | http://engt.co/nYXuRb |
| 02:52.54 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: i paid 4x that price for my 360 copy! |
| 02:53.07 | Kraps | heh |
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| 03:22.35 | Kraps | Amy Winehouse is dead |
| 03:22.44 | Kraps | O_o |
| 03:40.35 | kd3 | hm. aether mod installed |
| 03:40.47 | kd3 | notch has a very high bar to beat already |
| 03:52.28 | airtonix | 5x5 piston door |
| 03:52.32 | airtonix | rawr |
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| 04:17.01 | airtonix | Adys: http://gnomefiles.org/content/show.php/Gmediafinder?content=138588 |
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| 04:57.54 | Dagmar | airtonix: Ooo that's handy to know about |
| 05:05.12 | Kraps | http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-ultimate/ |
| 05:08.57 | Corrodias | ... wait, what? full rollover with the PS/2 connection, but only 6 keys with USB? |
| 05:13.47 | Iriel | Wonder if they're using a limited 3rd party chipset for USB |
| 05:23.12 | Gnarfoz | it's a limitation of USB HID. |
| 05:24.03 | karl_w_w | is it possible to get a pet you already have from the call to arms satchel? |
| 05:32.30 | Corrodias | that is unfortunate |
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| 05:56.37 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/2WHyO |
| 05:58.03 | airtonix | Dagmar: miro does this as well |
| 05:58.16 | airtonix | well, only youtube videos |
| 05:58.18 | airtonix | and torrents |
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| 06:25.23 | kd3 | good lord. a SM64 speed run in 1:49 |
| 06:25.35 | kd3 | SM64 120 star* |
| 06:25.41 | Dagmar | Adderall is a hell of a drug. |
| 06:38.01 | Xinhuan | whats a SM64 |
| 06:38.27 | kd3 | super mario 64 |
| 06:38.33 | kd3 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjQ1vYAcHQg |
| 06:40.38 | TMc51 | kd3: Have you ever seen romscouts speedruns before? |
| 06:40.45 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 06:41.15 | kd3 | nope, tmc. hi fisker |
| 06:42.46 | TMc51 | http://www.youtube.com/user/romscout |
| 06:48.44 | Mr_Rabies | hrmmm |
| 06:49.09 | Mr_Rabies | is there a nice lightweight addon for personally auditing your character's items and stuff |
| 06:49.24 | airtonix | die Fisker |
| 06:49.26 | Mr_Rabies | i'm having a hard time keeping track of what i do and don't have enchanted across alts |
| 06:49.49 | Mr_Rabies | i know i could use the armory but i hate alt tabbing a ton |
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| 07:04.37 | Jamash | use Armory (the addon) |
| 07:04.49 | Jamash | oh wait you said lightweight, nvm |
| 07:04.59 | Jamash | Armory is extremely heavy |
| 07:05.14 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 07:05.21 | Fisker | i'm tired kd3 |
| 07:05.23 | Fisker | how to fix? |
| 07:05.50 | Jamash | sleep |
| 07:06.01 | kd3 | cluebat to the head |
| 07:06.29 | Jamash | inject coffee into your brain |
| 07:06.46 | Fisker | i couldn't sleep |
| 07:06.51 | Fisker | the wind was being a jerk |
| 07:07.40 | Fisker | i think the wind is out after me |
| 07:07.49 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 07:17.47 | Fisker | i had a jerk move kd3 |
| 07:18.41 | Fisker | oh god kd3 |
| 07:18.42 | Fisker | OH GOD |
| 07:18.47 | Fisker | Princess Toadstool? |
| 07:21.13 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O0FlbiJ8HI&hd=1 |
| 07:24.27 | Corrodias | okay... i'll bite. wtf is that supposed to be? |
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| 07:26.45 | Corrodias | okay, i think i've got it |
| 07:27.05 | Corrodias | it's a non-combat rail shooter with motion controls and jpop? |
| 07:34.27 | Fisker | kd3 man |
| 07:34.37 | Fisker | that super mario guy should've been casted as neo in the Matrix |
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| 07:40.38 | airtonix | Corrodias: antivirus game |
| 07:43.25 | Fisker | please kd3 |
| 07:43.34 | Fisker | my eyes won't stop watching |
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| 07:46.28 | Fisker | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elegantinvention/isostick-the-optical-drive-in-a-usb-stick <-oh god |
| 07:49.15 | Jamash | um, can't you do all that already with a normal usb stick? |
| 07:49.50 | Fisker | no |
| 07:49.52 | Fisker | you can't |
| 07:49.54 | Jamash | and grub? |
| 07:50.04 | Jamash | and a few bits of glue? |
| 07:50.37 | Jamash | also, fat32 == fail |
| 07:51.07 | airtonix | this is a bit different |
| 07:51.18 | airtonix | it's an atual hardware based virtual cd rom |
| 07:51.30 | Fisker | most iso's aren't >4GB anyway |
| 07:51.41 | airtonix | a live usb is just a usb harddrive |
| 07:52.05 | airtonix | Fisker: wanna bet? |
| 07:52.08 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:52.17 | airtonix | yumadtho |
| 07:52.28 | Fisker | airtonix i mean most isos for OS deployment and shit |
| 07:52.53 | Dagmar | "hardware based virtual" ... *head asplode* |
| 07:55.28 | Jamash | it looks like something that is almost useful |
| 07:55.48 | Fisker | look at the beta units as well |
| 07:55.53 | Fisker | they're just usb sticks with microsd card |
| 07:55.55 | Fisker | cards |
| 07:56.00 | Fisker | he needs to make that expandable instead |
| 07:56.08 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A |
| 07:56.09 | Fisker | that would be so awesome |
| 07:56.15 | Jamash | I've invented a device that is a usb cdrom drive that pretends to be a usb cdrom drive |
| 07:56.19 | Jamash | give me $10,000 |
| 07:56.28 | Fisker | no Jamash |
| 07:56.36 | airtonix | umad |
| 07:56.51 | Jamash | we're all mad here |
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| 08:14.32 | Ycarene | How do I get a list of all of the achievements that a target has? |
| 08:15.28 | Corrodias | ask the person. OH HO HO HO |
| 08:17.35 | Jamash | SetAchievementComparisonUnit(unitId) followed by GetAchievementComparisonInfo(achievementID, comparisonNum) |
| 08:17.39 | Jamash | also |
| 08:17.43 | Jamash | ~lart Corrodias |
| 08:17.43 | purl | gives Corrodias an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Corrodias to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
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| 08:18.04 | Jamash | there's more stuff under http://www.wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API#Achievement_Functions |
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| 09:54.01 | airtonix | "Hit del to restart the game" |
| 09:54.12 | airtonix | <punches the computer> |
| 09:56.19 | Fisker | what the fuck happened to Torchlight 2? |
| 09:56.21 | Fisker | rage |
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| 09:56.37 | airtonix | it died because it was bad |
| 09:58.06 | Fisker | oh god no |
| 09:58.10 | Fisker | september/october |
| 09:58.13 | Fisker | DICKS |
| 09:58.17 | airtonix | umad |
| 09:59.39 | Fisker | imad? |
| 09:59.41 | Fisker | IFRS |
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| 10:24.30 | airtonix | FisKraPeppy |
| 10:26.08 | Fisker | AirTorNico |
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| 10:49.22 | airtonix | Adys: any of your python projects installable with pip? |
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| 10:54.52 | Fisker | python in python |
| 10:54.53 | Fisker | ? |
| 11:00.27 | karl_w_w | [18:58:02] [R] [85:Shelie:1]: Why is my heals pulling aggro?? |
| 11:04.07 | airtonix | lawl |
| 11:04.21 | zenzelezz | well, it is a fair question usually |
| 11:04.23 | airtonix | because you're tank is shit |
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| 11:04.52 | airtonix | we all know the reasons, which vary |
| 11:05.43 | airtonix | Fisker: it's not an acronym |
| 11:06.39 | Fisker | yes it is airtonix |
| 11:07.08 | airtonix | what is it then |
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| 11:18.49 | karl_w_w | well when you're spamming rejuv and wild growth and shit on people with full health when the tank is still positioning the boss in the pull you're asking for trouble |
| 11:18.54 | zenzelezz | Alex gets some funny stuff sometimes... http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Onramp-to-the-Information-Superhighway.aspx |
| 11:19.59 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: better than spamming it on people who aren't on full health; or he'd get even more threat (if I remember correctly) |
| 11:21.26 | airtonix | yep overhealing doesn't count toward threat |
| 11:22.03 | airtonix | but then disco priests are so awesome we don't need to overheal |
| 11:23.29 | zenzelezz | somehow this reminded me of my first forays into raiding; in Blackwing Lair... my guild used to pet-pull most of the dragon bosses, and me, being a noob, didn't think it was such a bad idea to stand with the rest of the raid and use Bloodrage during the pull. Suffice to say I learned fast |
| 11:30.25 | Corrodias | disco priest, fuck yes |
| 11:30.28 | Corrodias | let us dance the night away |
| 11:31.08 | Corrodias | save my soul with your message of funk |
| 11:31.09 | zenzelezz | disco priests, the obvious next step after bards |
| 11:32.18 | zenzelezz | dum-dum-dum-dum-dum it's fun to heal at the R-A-I-D |
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| 12:28.38 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 12:44.19 | Fisker | umad airtonix ? |
| 12:44.33 | karl_w_w | airtonix is always mad |
| 12:44.44 | karl_w_w | like rabid dog |
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| 13:13.15 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 13:16.53 | karl_w_w | the vicar of dibley has to be the best tv show ever made |
| 13:18.20 | zenzelezz | never heard of it |
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| 13:19.52 | karl_w_w | thats because you aren't cool enough zenzelezz |
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| 13:28.03 | Adys | airtonix: yes, bna |
| 13:28.41 | Kraps | BTW Fisker |
| 13:32.42 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 13:32.43 | Fisker | umad? |
| 13:32.44 | Fisker | UMAD?! |
| 13:32.52 | Kraps | notrly |
| 13:33.21 | Fisker | yarly |
| 13:39.56 | Kraps | why is spotify using an itunes interface? |
| 13:42.09 | zenzelezz | because apparently looking like a normal Windows program is so 10 years ago |
| 13:42.40 | zenzelezz | I barely recall last time I saw a default-UI looking media player |
| 13:43.31 | airtonix | vlc |
| 13:43.59 | karl_w_w | mpc-hc |
| 13:44.07 | karl_w_w | the best media player |
| 13:44.13 | zenzelezz | hc? |
| 13:44.17 | cncfanatics | spotify <3 |
| 13:44.21 | cncfanatics | Even though the UI is indeed, crap |
| 13:44.28 | cncfanatics | WTB default themed applications |
| 13:44.35 | zenzelezz | cncfanatics: I'm not bashing the functionality, just the looks |
| 13:49.16 | karl_w_w | home cinema |
| 13:50.01 | zenzelezz | oh, there's a special version for that now? |
| 13:50.05 | karl_w_w | erm |
| 13:50.14 | karl_w_w | mpc is like an old defunct project |
| 13:50.21 | karl_w_w | hc is just the continuation |
| 13:50.45 | zenzelezz | I was familiar with MPC, but haven't used it for years |
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| 13:51.43 | karl_w_w | you get a lot better quality using mpc and real codecs |
| 13:51.45 | karl_w_w | than with vlc |
| 13:52.16 | Corrodias | sad, yet true from what little i've seen of it |
| 13:53.26 | Corrodias | vlc might be the player of choice for linux systems, since they don't have directshow filters |
| 13:53.30 | Corrodias | i really don't know |
| 13:53.42 | Kraps | wow, on demand music legally on the internet |
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| 14:01.50 | Kraps | meh, weaker than i thought |
| 14:01.51 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 14:08.28 | zenzelezz | what is? |
| 14:09.50 | Kraps | what |
| 14:09.59 | karl_w_w | wut? |
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| 14:10.56 | Kraps | where |
| 14:13.06 | mikma | why |
| 14:14.06 | Kraps | incubus has a new album |
| 14:15.46 | Gnarfoz | is there a need to seed the random() function in WoW? |
| 14:16.58 | mikma | last time i used random it had to |
| 14:17.21 | Gnarfoz | /dump random(1,8) seems to deliver "random enough" numbers, hm |
| 14:17.39 | Gnarfoz | (and I recall having to seed it the last time I used it, too... which was 3 years ago) |
| 14:21.41 | zenzelezz | lua> math.randomseed |
| 14:21.43 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: function: 0x97e0648 |
| 14:22.02 | zenzelezz | it's there, guess it doesn't *hurt* to use it |
| 14:22.10 | zenzelezz | whether it's necessary I have no clue |
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| 14:29.28 | bluspacecow | purl is fisker sexy ? |
| 14:29.41 | bluspacecow | lua> fisker = sexy |
| 14:29.41 | lua_bot | bluspacecow: No output |
| 14:29.50 | bluspacecow | -____- |
| 14:31.07 | p3lim | can the following blow up the game? http://pastebin.com/E2nLXV7z |
| 14:31.52 | foxlit | p3lim: it's monumentally stupid even if it can't |
| 14:32.25 | p3lim | just need to find a way to halt the function until the item is locally cached |
| 14:34.24 | p3lim | tried using a helper function with OnUpdate, but that actually blew up the game so.. |
| 14:37.09 | karl_w_w | that snippet of code makes no sense to me whatsoever |
| 14:37.36 | foxlit | karl_w_w: retry until success. |
| 14:38.47 | karl_w_w | but why would you do that |
| 14:38.53 | karl_w_w | wouldnt that murder your fps |
| 14:39.08 | p3lim | link is nil because the item is not yet locally cached (which takes about 10-20ms to get) |
| 14:39.26 | foxlit | (you hope) |
| 14:39.35 | p3lim | yeah :p |
| 14:39.48 | karl_w_w | my ping is 300 minumum |
| 14:39.57 | p3lim | well I've done excessive testing with forcing local cache, and at most it used 18ms |
| 14:40.00 | foxlit | I know I've been running around Dalaran with "retrieving item data" for like a minute or two. |
| 14:40.06 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 14:40.14 | karl_w_w | and sometimes the cache bugs |
| 14:40.45 | karl_w_w | and you have to clear it before it'll work again |
| 14:41.07 | Adys | p3lim: whatever, it'll freeze the game |
| 14:41.19 | Adys | if you're lagging it can freeze it for a couple seconds |
| 14:41.29 | Adys | if you're really lagging, it can freeze it permanently as theres a timeout |
| 14:41.44 | Adys | as foxlit said its monumentally stupid either way |
| 14:41.52 | Adys | use this instead |
| 14:41.55 | Adys | !api ITEM_INFO |
| 14:41.55 | lua_bot | GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED: Fires when item info requested by GetItemInfo() becomes available, if it wasn't already, through a disk seek or a net request (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED) |
| 14:42.43 | p3lim | I can't use that since I cannot use GetItemInfo() |
| 14:43.22 | karl_w_w | !api getiteminfo |
| 14:43.23 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getiteminfo': GetTradeTargetItemInfo, GetItemInfo |
| 14:43.44 | karl_w_w | !api GetItemInfo |
| 14:43.44 | lua_bot | GetItemInfo: Returns information about an item, by name, link or id (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo) |
| 14:44.05 | p3lim | I can't use it |
| 14:44.17 | karl_w_w | why not |
| 14:45.05 | p3lim | because I don't have the name, link or id for the item yet |
| 14:46.05 | foxlit | One wonders why you can't just detect the error condition, skip doing whatever it is you need the links for, and try again in a second. |
| 14:47.22 | karl_w_w | where are you getting the items from then |
| 14:47.32 | Adys | the quest, obviously |
| 14:47.48 | karl_w_w | there is an event for everything |
| 14:48.01 | karl_w_w | otherwise the default UI wouldn't be able to use it |
| 14:48.02 | Adys | probably not this |
| 14:48.09 | Adys | items are a special case |
| 14:48.11 | p3lim | I need to find a quest with item rewards I havent cached yet |
| 14:49.05 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/v9n9kVhkLKw/ |
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| 14:51.19 | p3lim | What I try to do is automate something the default UI doesnt, and I require the item(s) to be locally cached to do so. But I will check if GetQuestItemLink triggers GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED |
| 14:51.57 | p3lim | just need to find a quest to do so.. |
| 14:53.45 | zenzelezz | Adys: lol |
| 14:55.14 | Kraps | http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/542900342935872891/D3D7FA430DB1AF254D49D1BAD4B78E8E72B6CEA8/ |
| 14:59.30 | Fisker | that would actually be funny |
| 14:59.36 | Fisker | if 11 people from each team went spies |
| 14:59.41 | Fisker | then went to eachothers spawn |
| 14:59.50 | Fisker | and totally confused the heck out of people joining |
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| 15:09.49 | Fisker | wanna penis mr. Kraps ? |
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| 15:36.38 | Kraps | i dunno Fisker |
| 15:36.55 | zenzelezz | no-one really knows Fisker |
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| 15:44.50 | bluspacecow | @fisker |
| 15:44.58 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:44.59 | bluspacecow | lua>fisker=sexy |
| 15:45.00 | lua_bot | bluspacecow: No output |
| 15:45.02 | Fisker | u jerk? |
| 15:45.03 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 15:45.16 | bluspacecow | lua>fisker=="sexy" |
| 15:45.17 | lua_bot | bluspacecow: false |
| 15:45.22 | bluspacecow | woah |
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| 15:49.57 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNnJqJ9hO4w |
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| 16:04.08 | Alram | hey Adys |
| 16:04.11 | Alram | im eating feta cheese |
| 16:04.14 | Alram | with french fries |
| 16:04.15 | Alram | deal with it |
| 16:04.22 | Adys | ok |
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| 16:14.33 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/funny-graphs-geek-embiggened.jpg |
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| 16:59.04 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 16:59.07 | Fisker | why does Pixel hate me? |
| 16:59.35 | Adys | everyone hates you |
| 17:04.23 | Fisker | not mikma :( |
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| 17:07.58 | mikma | fisker: actually i hate you more than thousand suns |
| 17:08.15 | Fisker | more than a thousand suns hate me? |
| 17:08.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:08.29 | Fisker | this day just keeps getting worse and worse |
| 17:08.31 | Xzempt | stop it mikma, youre gonna make fisker cry |
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| 17:18.05 | Kraps | borderland has good music |
| 17:25.01 | karl_w_w | I don't hate you Fisker |
| 17:25.13 | karl_w_w | not more than anybody else, at least |
| 17:26.37 | mikma | xzempt: well, good |
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| 17:52.26 | Adys | anyone on windows? |
| 17:52.43 | Adys | with the wow launcher available here |
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| 17:54.15 | Adys | hey Thunder_Child make yourself useful |
| 17:54.17 | Adys | or Fisker |
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| 17:55.07 | Alram | dont do it |
| 17:55.12 | Adys | Alram: fine you do it |
| 17:55.14 | Alram | no |
| 17:55.15 | Adys | fire up the launcher |
| 17:55.16 | Alram | die |
| 17:55.18 | Adys | go in Info menu |
| 17:55.23 | Adys | open connection info |
| 17:55.32 | Adys | make a screenshot of that window. upload it and link it here |
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| 17:55.45 | Alram | Adys, i dont have wow anymore |
| 17:55.46 | Alram | LOL |
| 17:55.56 | Adys | so? |
| 17:55.57 | Adys | neither do i |
| 17:56.06 | Alram | ok! |
| 17:56.13 | Adys | Fisker: do it |
| 17:56.15 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/window.PNG |
| 17:56.21 | Adys | ~cide++ |
| 17:56.33 | Adys | Cide: is there text in that black part? |
| 17:56.40 | Alram | adys wants your peer ids |
| 17:56.48 | Cide | no text, no |
| 17:57.00 | Thunder_Child | i dont have wow anymore either |
| 17:57.01 | Adys | ok |
| 17:57.08 | Adys | Cide: can you go in options and disable p2p |
| 17:57.13 | Adys | and then screenshot again |
| 17:57.44 | Cide | looks identical? |
| 17:58.24 | Adys | Cide: isnt there text in there? |
| 17:58.25 | Adys | try select it |
| 17:58.31 | Cide | I did |
| 17:58.33 | Cide | it's empty |
| 17:58.36 | Adys | hmm |
| 17:58.39 | Adys | is there a warning box? |
| 17:58.39 | Cide | but I'm fully patched so that could be w hy |
| 17:58.49 | Cide | no |
| 17:59.19 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/N4G42.png |
| 17:59.22 | Adys | this is what i see |
| 17:59.44 | Adys | would probably need someone who can run a patch then |
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| 18:00.11 | Cide | seems so |
| 18:00.17 | Cide | doesn't show up despite restarting it with p2p disabled |
| 18:00.23 | Fisker | i would never Adys |
| 18:00.27 | Fisker | since pixel hates me :( |
| 18:00.44 | Cairenn | Awwww, too cute! There's a raccoon sleeping on my back deck. |
| 18:00.55 | moop | hey guys, before I go and try to reinvwent the wheel, I thought I'd ask here first - does an addon exist that allows me to middle-click on an item and, depending on the type of item, it'll disenchant/prospect/mill it? |
| 18:01.04 | moop | reinvent* |
| 18:01.14 | Adys | moop: i dont think thats possible |
| 18:02.11 | moop | i've seen addons which perform a similar function (Panda/Revelation), so I wasn't sure if it was doable |
| 18:03.17 | Adys | what kind of similar function? |
| 18:03.44 | Adys | de/prospect/mill is a cast but i dont know the api requirements in that regard |
| 18:03.53 | moop | hmm - http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/molinari.aspx |
| 18:03.55 | moop | seems to do what I want |
| 18:04.14 | moop | haven't checked the code yet, so i don't know how it works |
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| 18:10.15 | Adys | yay bytearrays |
| 18:10.16 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/576576/ |
| 18:14.16 | foxlit | You almost never want to mill anything in combat |
| 18:14.36 | foxlit | So arranging milling through some click on an item is easy enough |
| 18:15.49 | foxlit | I'm surprised people insist on custom clicks for milling/prospecting -- right click seems the most obvious and easiest choice; could mess with tooltips to explain it as well. |
| 18:18.10 | Yoshimo | is it possible to make it easier to send 2 bags full of herbs to my bankalt somehow? takes a bit too long to add all herbs manually to the mail^^ |
| 18:18.46 | Thunder_Child | shift clicking take to long? |
| 18:19.07 | Thunder_Child | thats about 5-10 seconds |
| 18:19.11 | Thunder_Child | at most |
| 18:21.14 | Fisker | Adys |
| 18:21.18 | Fisker | damn |
| 18:21.25 | Fisker | does it need to be eu btw? |
| 18:21.27 | Adys | lol i logged in everyone in my guild thought i was getting hacked |
| 18:21.33 | Adys | Fisker: what does? |
| 18:21.41 | Fisker | the screenshot of it downloading |
| 18:22.00 | Adys | no |
| 18:22.55 | Fisker | peer id you want? |
| 18:22.57 | Fisker | i.e. the link? |
| 18:23.03 | Adys | no |
| 18:23.08 | Adys | i just want what i highlighted |
| 18:23.11 | Adys | on wine its black-on-black |
| 18:23.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 18:23.17 | Adys | i just wanted to know if it was a wine bug |
| 18:23.24 | Adys | also rofl |
| 18:23.30 | Adys | my guild is talking about linux |
| 18:23.35 | Adys | how fucking long have i been away |
| 18:23.44 | Maldivia | not long enough apparently |
| 18:24.31 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/4a2GE.png |
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| 18:24.49 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/zUN9K.png |
| 18:25.29 | Adys | hm |
| 18:25.30 | Adys | thanks |
| 18:28.14 | Adys | Interface\AddOns\Bagnon\components\itemFrame.lua:255: attempt to call method 'New' (a nil value) |
| 18:28.16 | Adys | what is that? |
| 18:28.21 | Fisker | bagnon! |
| 18:28.28 | Fisker | (Bag addon hoho) |
| 18:28.49 | Xinhuan | it is an Lua error! |
| 18:28.51 | Xinhuan | hoho! |
| 18:30.34 | Fisker | from dust soon |
| 18:32.13 | Fisker | i just got attacked by a duck |
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| 18:46.35 | Jamash | FISKER MAH BOI |
| 18:46.49 | mckenziemc | O.o |
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| 18:47.29 | Jamash | I AM IRCING ON MY 3DS IS THIS AWESOME [Y/N] |
| 18:47.37 | Dagmar | Euw. |
| 18:47.37 | Arrowmaster | N |
| 18:48.00 | Dagmar | I've gotta just get rid of my DSiXL. The web interface is still too damn slow on it |
| 18:48.42 | KarlKFI | is there a non-screaming mode you can enable? |
| 18:49.30 | Jamash | blows a raspberry at Arrowmaster [Sent from my 3DS] |
| 18:50.12 | Jamash | screaming is entirely optional |
| 18:50.19 | KarlKFI | oh good |
| 18:50.42 | Jamash | I'm just excited. |
| 18:51.01 | KarlKFI | that's ok. just be excited more quietly |
| 18:52.03 | Jamash | runs around in a circle miming tremendous excitement |
| 18:52.10 | KarlKFI | perfect |
| 18:52.44 | Jamash | Now I just need WoW for 3DS. |
| 18:54.33 | KarlKFI | onlive for 3DS |
| 18:56.34 | Jamash | Anyway, in traditional semi-idiotic Nintendo fashion they released a 3D video app that allows the 3DS to download 3D video, BUT the user can't choose what to download and also the videos automatically expire and are deleted after a while. |
| 18:58.14 | Jamash | Remember "push content"? The future of ten years ago is now! |
| 18:58.59 | Shirik | awesome captcha: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8c53661292be83af2108f198cfb83701.png |
| 19:01.23 | KarlKFI | yeah shirk, i have a friend who studies captchas. there's a lot fo crap with using greek letters and requiring you to type the english equivalent |
| 19:02.35 | Shirik | well that's calculus |
| 19:03.09 | Dagmar | I think the system takes into account high-failure-rate glyphs |
| 19:03.29 | Dagmar | I've had a few come up before and just typing whatever character looked close to it counted as a pass apparently |
| 19:03.43 | foxlit | You only need one correct word |
| 19:03.47 | foxlit | That's the reason there are two :) |
| 19:03.52 | Dagmar | Ahhh |
| 19:11.31 | Adys | http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_4.1.0/API_changes is there one of those for 4.2? |
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| 19:14.18 | Adys_ | !api currency |
| 19:14.18 | lua_bot | Found 29 possible matches for 'currency'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 19:14.24 | Adys_ | [20:11:11] <Adys> http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_4.1.0/API_changes is there one of those for 4.2? |
| 19:15.20 | mckenziemc | oh nice |
| 19:15.44 | KarlKFI | Adys: that one was put up by foxlit, tho i was under the impression Iriel had the script to generate them |
| 19:16.15 | mckenziemc | wait what... the link to google doesn't even include the search terms : / |
| 19:16.37 | KarlKFI | bot fail |
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| 19:18.04 | Adys | Dagmar: bah.. http://dpaste.com/576635/ |
| 19:20.53 | Dagmar | Adys: Squirrels must be stealing yer headend routers |
| 19:20.55 | Fisker | Adys JAMASH |
| 19:20.59 | Fisker | oh god |
| 19:21.00 | Fisker | JAMASH |
| 19:21.02 | Fisker | THAT DEPENDS |
| 19:21.05 | Fisker | IS THE TEXT 3D? |
| 19:22.42 | KarlKFI | **shhh** this is a library! |
| 19:22.57 | Thunder_Child | yes, but it's a library of dirty books |
| 19:23.07 | KarlKFI | moaning only, then |
| 19:23.15 | KarlKFI | quietly |
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| 19:34.24 | Adys | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/07/24/1715232/Android-Password-Data-Stored-In-Plain-Text |
| 19:34.30 | Adys | lets all take a minute to mock slashdot |
| 19:34.33 | Adys | and anyone reading it |
| 19:37.45 | foxlit | Adys: http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Global_functions&action=historysubmit&diff=2747033&oldid=2717093 may help |
| 19:38.00 | Adys | thanks |
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| 19:50.18 | Thunder_Child | http://www.sunvalleytek.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us&zenid=865f2b2580e625e87c4ae7386795ac62 http://www.papatek.com/ContactUs.html/ this isnt shady at all |
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| 19:54.12 | Azelphur | Anyone who happens to be familiar with macaroon or blizzard limitations on action bars and paging care to take a look at http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=242150&postcount=496 ? :) |
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| 19:56.36 | foxlit | tl;dr is there any way to use a keybinding to have bars "page" without using the blizzard page system << yes |
| 19:56.53 | Azelphur | awesome, that's a step in the right direction :D |
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| 20:03.57 | Azelphur | foxlit: is there a way to do it with custom bar states / macro conditions? |
| 20:04.21 | foxlit | I don't see why not |
| 20:04.39 | foxlit | Though exactly what it is you mean by bar states remains a mystery :) |
| 20:05.03 | Azelphur | Macaroon calls them custom bar states, bartender calls them Macro conditions |
| 20:05.12 | Azelphur | so you can set what bars appear based on a certain condition |
| 20:05.22 | foxlit | And I just use the default UI :) |
| 20:05.51 | Azelphur | haha |
| 20:06.20 | foxlit | There's actually a very high amount of freedom in terms of what you can do with action bars, as long as what you're thinking of is driven by user interaction (pushing buttons and stuff) or expressible via macro conditionals. |
| 20:06.34 | Aqua | Just don't automate |
| 20:06.35 | Azelphur | yea, everything is physical button presses :) |
| 20:07.11 | Aqua | why do people have 10 GB mailboxes.... oh the pain |
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| 20:09.11 | Azelphur | bar states seem to be able to show or hide bars based on any of the macro conditionals, http://www.wowpedia.org/Making_a_macro#Complete_list |
| 20:09.21 | Azelphur | unfortunately none of those seem to be viable for what I have in mind :( |
| 20:09.42 | Azelphur | I wonder if you can create custom conditionals with addons. |
| 20:10.25 | foxlit | Generally, no |
| 20:10.34 | foxlit | Though to some extent, yes. |
| 20:11.22 | Azelphur | all I'd really want is 2 new conditionals, which could be changed with a keybinding |
| 20:12.09 | Azelphur | so for example ctrl+alt+1 means g19m:1 is selected, ctrl+alt+2 means g19m:2 is selected, so on. |
| 20:16.44 | foxlit | You can fake that well enough. I'm not sure whether there's an addon that would do it for you already, though |
| 20:17.11 | Azelphur | I shouldn't have too much trouble writing one, I'm not that familiar with LUA but it shouldn't be too much of a problem |
| 20:17.33 | jnwhiteh | Least User Access is indeed a pickle |
| 20:18.07 | Azelphur | just trying to find out how/if it's all possible before I dive into the world of addons :P |
| 20:19.09 | Azelphur | I found the function that evaluates conditionals, no doubt bartender and macaroon use that |
| 20:19.16 | Azelphur | but can't seem to find one to create a conditional |
| 20:19.22 | jnwhiteh | you can't do it that way |
| 20:19.27 | jnwhiteh | you'd have to use secure snippets |
| 20:19.34 | jnwhiteh | in short, you cannot alter the macro/conditional system at all |
| 20:19.46 | jnwhiteh | but you can use secure snippets to perform slightly more complicated logic.. within limitations. |
| 20:19.56 | jnwhiteh | stolenlegacy: <3 |
| 20:20.05 | jnwhiteh | didn't know anyone was delving into the EJ yet |
| 20:20.06 | Azelphur | I see |
| 20:20.20 | stolenlegacy | jnwhiteh: i just happened to see a link to it in chat |
| 20:20.26 | stolenlegacy | and felt a compelling urge |
| 20:20.29 | stolenlegacy | to look at it |
| 20:20.43 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 20:20.45 | jnwhiteh | cool :P |
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| 20:20.57 | Azelphur | jnwhiteh: this is starting to sound like a macaroon patch rather than something generic :) |
| 20:21.24 | foxlit | Out of the fire, into the frying pan, then. |
| 20:21.27 | jnwhiteh | you won't have a general solution, really |
| 20:21.36 | Azelphur | hehe |
| 20:21.38 | jnwhiteh | so you need to target a specific addon, need to look at what they use rather than assuming =) |
| 20:22.14 | Azelphur | yea, I'm already targeting macaroon and I already know it uses standard conditionals |
| 20:24.28 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/LcG5gr6N << ew |
| 20:25.54 | foxlit | It's like 20 lines, and I already hate them :/ |
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| 20:26.09 | nevcairiel | delete what you hate! |
| 20:26.13 | Azelphur | jnwhiteh: I seem to be able to change a single bars page in the menu for macaroon, would adding a command (which I could then bind to a key in a macro) to change a bars page work? |
| 20:26.19 | Azelphur | or would the blizzard system not allow for that :P |
| 20:26.34 | jnwhiteh | you can easily bind a key that changes a bar's page |
| 20:26.52 | Azelphur | nice |
| 20:27.02 | foxlit | nevcairiel: pessimistically, I'd have to rethink a ton of things then :( |
| 20:27.04 | Azelphur | time to start diving into the macaroon source I guess then :D |
| 20:27.11 | nevcairiel | although you only have 6 states to change between =) |
| 20:27.46 | foxlit | is doing something related to action bars. |
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| 20:27.50 | foxlit | It's hell :( |
| 20:28.16 | nevcairiel | i burried my plans for more dynamic action bars a while ago, its just not worth it |
| 20:28.32 | nevcairiel | also, most users would never figure out how to work the system |
| 20:29.19 | Azelphur | hehe, macaroon is complicated, I'm mostly just doing this for fun |
| 20:29.32 | foxlit | I'm sure the user problem is surmountable, but that's one chunk of effort I'd rather not expend yet :( |
| 20:30.05 | nevcairiel | if i learned one thing in the last years, writing wow addons: never underestimate the stupidity of wow players |
| 20:30.18 | Azelphur | I was involved in the development of the (linux) drivers for the keyboard that has the extra buttons, so I'm a bit of a special case wanting weird things :P |
| 20:31.00 | Azelphur | nevcairiel: amen to that, and I havn't even developed any addons yet |
| 20:31.39 | nevcairiel | well in-game i used to only run with friends, i never really experienced the full spectrum of pugging. :p |
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| 20:32.53 | Azelphur | I'm in a guild, the GM is the owner of a computer shop so we got talking, now half the guild thinks I'm a "master hacker" and continually asks me to "hack <person they don't like>'s wow account" |
| 20:33.08 | Azelphur | >.< |
| 20:33.22 | nevcairiel | report them for conspiracy to hack people! |
| 20:33.33 | Azelphur | haha |
| 20:34.01 | Azelphur | "couldn't you do it" "No." "Just this once?" "No." "Please?" "No." |
| 20:35.12 | Cairenn | Hey cogwheel? Did I ever link this for you? I meant to, but don't recall if I actually did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypeXjcJEDgI |
| 20:36.19 | nevcairiel | awesome song. :p |
| 20:38.42 | Cairenn | Hehehehe |
| 20:38.44 | stolenlegacy | blizzard is weird |
| 20:38.55 | Cairenn | stolenlegacy: and this is news, how? |
| 20:39.02 | stolenlegacy | they use a bitfield for encounter journal difficulty in encounter journal links |
| 20:39.10 | stolenlegacy | but then there's only the values 1, 2, 4 and 8 |
| 20:39.17 | stolenlegacy | sighs |
| 20:39.22 | stolenlegacy | and there's not even anything to OR there |
| 20:39.29 | stolenlegacy | err i mean |
| 20:39.42 | stolenlegacy | they only parse the lowest 1 bit anyway |
| 20:39.52 | stolenlegacy | so 0101 (5) is parsed as 0001 (1) |
| 20:39.57 | stolenlegacy | :/ |
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| 20:45.00 | Adys | doesn't matter |
| 20:45.10 | Adys | they very often use bitfields for values they may expand in the future |
| 20:50.25 | stolenlegacy | point taken |
| 20:55.26 | Fisker | Azelphur |
| 20:55.34 | Fisker | you forgot to mention the part where you share accounts with the GM |
| 20:55.55 | Azelphur | haha |
| 20:56.16 | nevcairiel | people in my guild used to think i was a GM, basically just because i know every f'ing thing about the game |
| 20:56.23 | nevcairiel | or rather, knew |
| 20:56.28 | nevcairiel | those times have passed |
| 20:59.35 | zenzelezz | stolenlegacy: maybe they expect encounters to be flagged both easy and difficult :-o |
| 21:00.10 | nevcairiel | at the same time? |
| 21:00.25 | stolenlegacy | well, obviously |
| 21:00.28 | stolenlegacy | that's why they used a bitmask |
| 21:09.46 | Adys | http://www.amazon.com/x/product-reviews/0764553224/ |
| 21:09.50 | Adys | 2,987 of 3,049 people found the following review helpful: |
| 21:09.51 | Adys | nice |
| 21:11.50 | Shirik | wowtcg.com/to |
| 21:12.02 | Shirik | stupid irc stealing my focus :( |
| 21:12.24 | Azelphur | Adys: seen this one? http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2554310312_96fa609c8f_o.jpg :P |
| 21:12.38 | caerphoto | Adys: I think it's a helpful review, just not for assessing the quality of the book. |
| 21:13.50 | Adys | Azelphur: cleaver |
| 21:13.52 | Adys | twitches |
| 21:13.52 | caerphoto | e..g it helped me cheer up :D |
| 21:14.03 | Azelphur | hehe |
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| 21:14.37 | caerphoto | I dare not read the comments though, as I fear they may depress me. |
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| 21:23.45 | caerphoto | am I right in thinking there's no way to get info (coordinates) of ore/herbs currently on the minimap? |
| 21:23.52 | Iriel | yes |
| 21:24.04 | caerphoto | I suspected as much :( |
| 21:27.06 | foxlit | Hm, nasty. I'm considering adding something resembling observers to a bit of code, but the events that would cause observers to be notified are a bit too frequent |
| 21:28.40 | Iriel | Use an OnUpdate throttle? (i.e. the event causes a notify to fire only at the next OnUpdate) |
| 21:30.01 | foxlit | Iriel: perhaps. I'm also considering just incrementing some sort of counter and letting interested parties check what it's at -- if it isn't what they've seen before, something has changed. |
| 21:30.09 | foxlit | But perhaps all this is a bit premature |
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| 21:46.49 | zenzelezz | "You know those times in Star Trek Enterprise when we were wondering what the hell does Steve Bakula do and then the writers of the show would gave us one of those "almost naked T'Pol" moments to calm us down? Well, somebody thought making an entire movie on the concept would be nice." |
| 21:46.52 | zenzelezz | o_O |
| 21:47.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:57.42 | karl_w_w | sounds like a decent film |
| 21:58.06 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/3p4Xl |
| 21:58.06 | zenzelezz | was all right, nothing stellar |
| 21:58.08 | zenzelezz | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0491145/ |
| 21:58.12 | Adys | lol at americans showing off their speeds in the comments. |
| 21:58.35 | foxlit | -- actionType arg removed for 4,0 |
| 21:58.38 | foxlit | qqcomma :( |
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| 22:03.33 | karl_w_w | adys: the censoring is nowhere near as widespread and the metering is pretty accurate, but otherwise we have exactly the same thing going on in australia |
| 22:04.01 | Adys | australia has an excuse |
| 22:04.16 | karl_w_w | whats that |
| 22:04.51 | Adys | the installations cost a lot more to companies |
| 22:06.11 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 22:06.34 | Adys | ask the companies |
| 22:06.57 | karl_w_w | why do you say that |
| 22:07.09 | Adys | because i don't know; ask the companies |
| 22:08.21 | Adys | my point is, once the installs will be there it wont cost as much |
| 22:09.50 | karl_w_w | you aren't making any sense to me lol |
| 22:10.49 | karl_w_w | if you dont know its expensive why do you say it is. is it the done thing to just make things up and say ask the companies about it? |
| 22:11.06 | karl_w_w | sounds like really bad journalism :P |
| 22:11.18 | foxlit | lua> function a(...) return function() return ... end end print(a("hi")()) |
| 22:11.19 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 22:13.38 | Iriel | foxlit: you have to pack and unpack as an array for that |
| 22:13.49 | Iriel | foxlit: annoying as it is, it's the only way given how ⦠works |
| 22:14.08 | foxlit | yes, was just checking that my memory was correct |
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| 22:34.38 | Fisker | so Jamash |
| 22:35.13 | Fisker | should we start sticky requesting the thread that's been derailed with about 13 pages of hate? |
| 22:38.14 | foxlit | who is fisker hating now, anyway? |
| 22:38.31 | Fisker | well foxlit |
| 22:38.33 | Fisker | he's norwegian |
| 22:38.37 | Fisker | and he's kind of a dick |
| 22:38.41 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/927077585?page=14 |
| 22:41.20 | foxlit | Hm, need a sanity check |
| 22:41.39 | alestane | All my sanity checks bounced. |
| 22:42.00 | Fisker | I'm not sure what Blizzard actually considers a legitimate reason to not close it for |
| 22:42.21 | foxlit | I'm writing a function that's supposed to return information that would help you display an action button |
| 22:42.35 | foxlit | Stuff like icon texture, cooldown times, etc |
| 22:43.20 | foxlit | The list of stuff I've got at the moment is: isUsable, isActive, icon, cooldownLeft, cooldownLength, actionName, itemCount, tooltipFunc |
| 22:43.27 | foxlit | Did I miss anything of significance? |
| 22:44.49 | Iriel | Cost? |
| 22:44.58 | Iriel | Helpful/Harmful? |
| 22:45.17 | Iriel | Or are you just looking for 'dynamic" elements? |
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| 22:45.29 | Iriel | (Icon texture seemed to imply otherwise, figured i'd ask) |
| 22:45.40 | Iriel | range and mana availability? |
| 22:46.44 | foxlit | Just the visual stuff -- all the information you'd need to display an action button, without having to know anything about what it does. |
| 22:47.06 | Iriel | inRange for sure |
| 22:47.12 | Iriel | charges left, also |
| 22:47.12 | foxlit | helpful/harmful has no indication in the default UI; range and mana fall under usable |
| 22:47.16 | Iriel | (oh, that's itemCount) |
| 22:47.27 | Iriel | So your usable is multi-valued? not just true/false? |
| 22:47.50 | foxlit | coerced to true/false at the moment; I won't tell you why you can't use it |
| 22:48.29 | foxlit | [though that sounds like a shortcoming] |
| 22:49.15 | Iriel | I definitely think the reason(s) are beneficial - even the stock UI tells you in/out of range (albeit too subtly) |
| 22:52.11 | foxlit | Agreed; though not sure what the best way to expose that is |
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| 22:53.07 | Fisker | test tickles foxlit |
| 22:53.10 | foxlit | Adding more boolean return values would work, but then the list of returned variables gets large |
| 22:53.37 | foxlit | and bit fields/strings seem like a bad idea in Lua. |
| 22:54.19 | Iriel | bit fields aren't too bad when the cardinality is low |
| 22:54.52 | Iriel | (nor are strings for that matter) |
| 22:55.10 | stolenlegacy | i remember some addon that showed a visual indicator of how long you had to wait until you could send message again to certain channels |
| 22:55.13 | stolenlegacy | anyone remember the name |
| 22:55.16 | foxlit | state:match("NOMANA")? |
| 22:55.24 | Adys | What's the legal name for a non-renewable contract with a one-time pay? |
| 22:56.06 | stolenlegacy | it was something..UI |
| 22:56.25 | Iriel | foxlit: Hm, ew. |
| 22:56.51 | Iriel | You could return an immutable table with keys for the states, (nil for usable) |
| 22:57.07 | Adys | Shirik, Iriel: any idea? |
| 22:57.09 | Iriel | if (unusable && unusable.noMana) then |
| 22:57.28 | krka | s/&&/and/ |
| 22:57.38 | Iriel | Adys: Nothing jumps to mind immediately. |
| 22:57.44 | Iriel | krka: thanks -- too much java lately |
| 22:57.52 | krka | no such thing as too much java :) |
| 22:57.53 | Iriel | (Not that there's such a thing as too much Java) |
| 22:57.56 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 22:57.58 | krka | omg |
| 22:58.04 | Iriel | Nice. |
| 22:58.05 | krka | creepy |
| 22:58.09 | Adys | theres such a thing as Java and thats already too much |
| 22:58.10 | Iriel | I'll stick with nice. |
| 22:58.15 | stolenlegacy | what Adys said |
| 22:59.22 | foxlit | it's a bit messy, since there are multiple locations that would have to return that table, so it probably can't be shared. |
| 22:59.54 | Iriel | Unfortunate, I was hoping you could create each combination up-front and return them like constants. |
| 23:01.16 | Adys | Iriel: fixed-price contract apparently |
| 23:01.55 | Iriel | Hm, fixed-price implies that the amount is agreed up front for a particular amount of work, it doesn't say anything about renewability or payment. |
| 23:01.55 | foxlit | Hm, probably partial to using a single number return: 0 for usable, non-zero indicating some sort of failure. |
| 23:01.56 | Adys | doesnt seem to be a special word for unrenewable |
| 23:02.20 | foxlit | contracts don't necessarily imply renewability, imo |
| 23:02.38 | foxlit | so it wouldn't seem like you need to stress that aspect. |
| 23:03.19 | Adys | yeah |
| 23:04.12 | Iriel | If for example you were writing a contract to create someone a website according to specifications, and they were going to pay you $10,000 to do so, then it'd be a fixed-bid contract (and you'd want to be super careful to define the scope and any change control/penalties if it changes) |
| 23:04.24 | Iriel | (I generally see "fixed bid" more than I do "fixed price") |
| 23:05.10 | Arrowmaster | is that where the requirements are defined and whoever bids the lowest amount gets paid? |
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| 23:06.02 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: Well, that'd depend on the bidding process -- but I see the term "fixed bid" even when there's only one company involved -- i'm not sure if that's just a quirk of the company's vendor management team or a general industry term. |
| 23:06.27 | Arrowmaster | whenever i heard bid thats what i think of |
| 23:06.34 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 23:06.56 | Iriel | Though I guess it makes sense, usually the client doesn't commit to the contract without reading it |
| 23:06.59 | Iriel | so it's a bid anyway 8-) |
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| 23:08.45 | Iriel | Hm, must remember I bound that corner of my monitor to "Put displays to sleep" |
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| 23:11.53 | Kraps | offers to herp some derps for the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/jul/17/population-control-beckham-family/print |
| 23:12.37 | foxlit | "there is an increasing call for the UK to open a public debate about how many children people have." who? |
| 23:12.39 | foxlit | why? |
| 23:13.25 | Corrodias | that was poorly-worded, i HOPE |
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| 23:13.30 | Corrodias | because debating a number isn't very useful |
| 23:13.45 | foxlit | "It is a view that is being pushed by the UK-based Optimum Population Trust, whose chief executive, Simon Ross, is calling for the government to tackle the UK's high rates of accidental pregnancy and to give child benefits and tax credits only for the first two children. " |
| 23:13.54 | foxlit | well, that explains the who. |
| 23:14.14 | Adys | don't worry |
| 23:14.22 | Kraps | Corrodias: "One or two children are fine but three or four are just being selfish," Simon Ross, executive director of the Optimum Population Trust, told reporter Tracy McVeigh. |
| 23:14.33 | Adys | three of these kids will die before they're 30 so that the younger one can get all of his dad's money |
| 23:15.08 | Adys | what do you know, that rhymed |
| 23:15.15 | Kraps | sense, you make none |
| 23:15.17 | Corrodias | i happen to agree that we don't need more people, for what it's worth |
| 23:15.34 | A-KO | omfg |
| 23:15.41 | A-KO | Nobuo Uematsu's going to be singing stuff at Otakon |
| 23:15.51 | A-KO | signing* |
| 23:16.01 | A-KO | that line is going tobe 10 miles long |
| 23:16.46 | Azelphur | jnwhiteh / foxlit re my command to change macaroon bars thing, I've sort of got it working. |
| 23:16.58 | Azelphur | I added the command, figured out how it all works, and I can change a bar, but it only works while out of combat |
| 23:17.18 | Azelphur | if I'm in combat, it says "Interface action failed because of an AddOn", I assume that's some blizzard security thing I'm not doing right |
| 23:17.41 | Iriel | "Normal" code can't alter the state of action bars in combat |
| 23:17.49 | Iriel | (SInce that enables automation, etc) |
| 23:18.03 | Azelphur | I'm trying to do pages on a per bar basis using commands |
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| 23:18.09 | Azelphur | with macaroon |
| 23:18.33 | Azelphur | Is that not possible? |
| 23:18.46 | Iriel | Hm, well, if you're not writing lua and are doing some macaroon thing I can't help (since I don't use macaroon) |
| 23:19.08 | Azelphur | I am writing lua, I just patched in said command and got it to work :) |
| 23:19.10 | foxlit | There's probably like one person who can answer that question with any degree of certainty |
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| 23:19.27 | Azelphur | that said I've never done wow addons or LUA, so it's a little learning curve :) |
| 23:19.33 | Azelphur | is a python person. |
| 23:19.44 | Adys | ~azelphur++ |
| 23:19.44 | mckenziemc | Lua* |
| 23:19.59 | Adys | Corrodias: reminds me of some feisty comments arguing that "population increase is fine because there's still plenty of space on earth for them" |
| 23:20.07 | foxlit | It's not that it's impossible, it's just that no one knows how Macaroon works |
| 23:20.16 | foxlit | Since you don't read action bar addon code for fun and profit. |
| 23:20.36 | foxlit | So, in theory, you can do what you want. How you do what you want in your specific example is somewhat of an open question |
| 23:21.20 | Azelphur | all I've done is looked at how the configuration menu sets the action bar page, and then made a new command that does the same thing |
| 23:21.35 | mckenziemc | i think it is impossible :o |
| 23:22.14 | Azelphur | would be handy if someone could take a look at it and see what I'm doing that makes blizzards in combat security unhappy though. |
| 23:22.40 | Corrodias | Adys: that's a great argument if one is proposing using the extra babies as fertilizer for crops |
| 23:22.48 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 23:22.52 | Corrodias | plenty of space to use them on |
| 23:22.55 | Adys | you got great ideas |
| 23:23.00 | Corrodias | i no, rite |
| 23:23.03 | Adys | let's elect you governor of texas |
| 23:23.24 | Azelphur | mckenziemc: would be sad if it's impossible, the blizzard paging system can't do what I want :( |
| 23:23.37 | Adys | there's a heavy discussion on my ISP's forum that their connection with youtube is bad |
| 23:23.46 | mckenziemc | i want to do the same thing as you, just with a regular keyboard |
| 23:23.49 | Adys | can someone please confirm that youtube is complete shit wrt video time loads? |
| 23:23.54 | Adys | on ANY isp |
| 23:24.01 | Azelphur | mckenziemc: oh nice, you read my forum post? :D |
| 23:24.05 | Mikk | adys give me an example url |
| 23:24.09 | mckenziemc | but haven't seen anything that looks doable; granted i haven't put much time into searching and don't know about secure handlers yet |
| 23:24.09 | Mikk | i've noticed that they vary greatly |
| 23:24.10 | Kraps | "(Thanks to Fisker for finding that one)" |
| 23:24.12 | mckenziemc | yeah |
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| 23:24.23 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqMejQkMJaw&feature=feedrec_grec_index << I counted to "two" |
| 23:24.35 | Azelphur | mckenziemc: well as I say I'm pretty close, I actually have it implemented and working, just that it doesn't work in combat right now |
| 23:24.39 | Adys | Mikk: yeah, it varies for me too |
| 23:24.49 | Adys | and usually swapping to 480p or something high def fixes it |
| 23:24.53 | Mikk | mckenziemc ummm you can switch bars with regular keybinds already... they're in the keybinding menu |
| 23:25.04 | Adys | i just meant "generally shit" |
| 23:25.04 | Azelphur | if you can figure out how to make it work in combat, we're set :P |
| 23:25.06 | Thunder_Child | what res? |
| 23:25.13 | Mikk | shift+1 ... shift+6 usually |
| 23:25.22 | Azelphur | mckenziemc: want me to zip up my modified macaroon and send it your way? |
| 23:25.29 | Mikk | nop |
| 23:25.35 | Mikk | o oops |
| 23:26.00 | Mikk | adys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqMejQkMJaw&feature=feedrec_grec_index <- about 2 seconds |
| 23:26.19 | mckenziemc | you're probably using a function that's protected in combat |
| 23:26.36 | Azelphur | yea, but all I'm doing is calling Macaroon functions |
| 23:27.01 | Azelphur | so whatever is making blizzard unhappy is inside macaroon somewhere |
| 23:27.16 | Azelphur | I just have absolutely no idea on what does or doesn't make blizzard unhappy or how to find out :P |
| 23:27.20 | Adys | Mikk: loaded fast for me too |
| 23:27.35 | Adys | it varies very greatly |
| 23:27.46 | Mikk | Azelphur: macaroon code is user code like yours |
| 23:27.50 | Adys | but sometimes/often it loads at <50kbps |
| 23:27.50 | mckenziemc | this could be done with an external program, using something like hotkeynet (and still being in bounds of what blizzard allows) but idk how happy warden would be |
| 23:27.58 | mckenziemc | Mikk: we're talking about something more complicated |
| 23:28.25 | Azelphur | mckenziemc: how would that help? we're talking about changing the action bars :P |
| 23:28.29 | Mikk | hit a key and it figures out the right bar on its own? basically can't be done |
| 23:28.30 | mckenziemc | two sets of buttons, that can page separately, basically |
| 23:28.39 | mckenziemc | Mikk: no |
| 23:28.40 | Azelphur | oh, I already have that done |
| 23:28.54 | Mikk | (in combat) |
| 23:29.00 | Azelphur | my hardware already pages and can send separate keys and stuff for each page |
| 23:29.22 | Azelphur | Mikk: no I'm thinking like ctrl+alt+1 sets Bar 1 to page 1 |
| 23:29.31 | Azelphur | ctrl+alt+2 sets bar 1 to page 2, so etc etc :P |
| 23:30.03 | Azelphur | so basically exactly the same as the blizzard paging system, but on a per bar basis using /commands |
| 23:30.16 | Mikk | which "bars" are we talking about here |
| 23:30.25 | Mikk | and why do you need to involve /commands? |
| 23:30.28 | Azelphur | macaroon button bars |
| 23:30.36 | Azelphur | because they can be bound to ctrl+alt+1 |
| 23:30.56 | Mikk | buttons that do that should be bindable to keys |
| 23:31.04 | Mikk | using regular keybinds |
| 23:31.15 | Mikk | without involving /commands |
| 23:31.33 | Azelphur | fair enough, there's no particular need for /commands that's just the way I chose to do it with a somewhat limited wow addon knowledge :p |
| 23:31.48 | Azelphur | the end goal is to <keybind> changes <bar> to page x |
| 23:31.48 | Mikk | the problem is /commands = user code |
| 23:32.01 | Mikk | a button that invokes a secure handler something something mumbo jumbo is not |
| 23:32.05 | foxlit | yes, basically no secure /commands |
| 23:32.07 | Mikk | but i'm not well versed enough in actionbar securehandlers |
| 23:32.09 | foxlit | Something they should fix! |
| 23:32.17 | Azelphur | ah, I see |
| 23:33.35 | Azelphur | so in theory make a keybind and do it in there and I might have more luck :) |
| 23:35.40 | Kraps | on a scale of one to Voldemort, how awkward are your hugs? |
| 23:36.00 | Azelphur | Kraps: justin beiber. |
| 23:36.09 | Azelphur | (Your scale, I just broke it.) |
| 23:36.39 | Kraps | :( |
| 23:37.18 | Iriel | The closest thing to a slash command for secure handlers is /click DoMyCoolAction |
| 23:38.41 | Azelphur | yea, there's no real need for a slash command anyway, it was just the way I came up with doing it, the intention is to use a keybind anyway |
| 23:38.52 | Azelphur | just trying to find the API for creating a keybind to call a function now :) |
| 23:39.45 | alestane | Needs to be done froma Bindings.xml file. |
| 23:39.56 | foxlit | those aren't secure, surely? |
| 23:40.10 | alestane | Bound functions are not. |
| 23:40.23 | Azelphur | needs to be secure :( |
| 23:40.56 | alestane | You can use Bindings.xml to bind a key to click a particular button. |
| 23:41.00 | alestane | That's secure. |
| 23:41.24 | Azelphur | and can I make said button call a lua function? |
| 23:41.37 | foxlit | Should add some form of RegisterSecureSlashCommand(command, widget, button) |
| 23:42.05 | alestane | It won't call it sevurely. |
| 23:42.09 | alestane | securely* |
| 23:42.16 | Azelphur | :( |
| 23:42.30 | Azelphur | so the question is how do I make a keybind to call a lua function securely |
| 23:42.39 | foxlit | no. |
| 23:42.44 | alestane | The ONLY way to get arbitrary Lua called securely is to pass it as a snippet to a secure handler button. |
| 23:42.52 | Iriel | I personally set up my secure "bindings" as clicks |
| 23:42.54 | alestane | Which puts it in the secure sandbox. |
| 23:43.21 | alestane | You can't declare an arbitrary function from Lua and have it executed securely. Ever. |
| 23:43.35 | alestane | That's one of the points of teh system. |
| 23:43.49 | Azelphur | I see |
| 23:44.26 | alestane | Depending what you want, it may still be possible, but you can't just casually say, "call this function, you can trust it, really." |
| 23:44.44 | Azelphur | alestane: I'm trying to tell a macaroon action bar to change page with a keybind |
| 23:44.51 | Azelphur | button bar, rather :) |
| 23:45.16 | Azelphur | I got as far as adding a /command to do it only to realize it didn't work in combat |
| 23:45.40 | alestane | Look into SecureHandlerClickTemplate. |
| 23:45.53 | Azelphur | will do, ty :) |
| 23:46.20 | alestane | That's as close as you can come to arbitrary secure execution on demand. |
| 23:46.35 | Azelphur | hopefully it can do what I need |
| 23:46.47 | foxlit | The question is really how to tell macaroon to switch bars |
| 23:47.05 | Azelphur | I can already do that, I made a slash command to do it |
| 23:47.12 | Azelphur | although I'm not sure whether that would work in a secure environment |
| 23:47.29 | foxlit | Precisely why that is the question. |
| 23:47.35 | Azelphur | hehe |
| 23:48.19 | Azelphur | http://pastebin.com/L9FECcKs is the code I'm using to set it at the moment |
| 23:49.29 | Kraps | Comic-Con 2011 Panel: Blizzard - World of Warcraft, Diablo, and StarCraft Swag Show |
| 23:49.32 | Kraps | i lol'd |
| 23:50.30 | foxlit | and without being familiar with Macaroon, that is meaningless :( |
| 23:51.03 | Azelphur | indeed, you'd need to look at what those macaroon functions do |
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