| 00:18.06 | pompy | Can I still complete Achievements for previous days and earn Tickets? |
| 00:18.07 | pompy | Yes. A list of previous dayâs Achievements can be found here. They can be completed through the last day of the Steam Summer Camp Sale. |
| 00:18.12 | pompy | I did not know that! |
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| 00:44.49 | foxlit | wow, the built-in unit frames have performance issues |
| 00:45.01 | foxlit | Grab the frame width slider, try to move it, fps drops to 0.1 |
| 00:48.44 | Iriel | Phew - finally made it through yesteday's pictures -- probably only of interest to anyone interested in ships: https://picasaweb.google.com/118078038313203288903/201107GhostFleet |
| 00:50.28 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Shirik&limit=4 |
| 00:50.30 | Shirik | very strange people |
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| 01:56.10 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:56.15 | Shirik | I had something important to ask you |
| 01:56.19 | Shirik | I forgot what it was though |
| 01:56.32 | Shirik | oh I remember, are you there? |
| 01:56.39 | Cide | I'm here |
| 02:12.29 | airtonix | :< accessing a ssh server in nautilus doesn't create ~/.gvfs/servername/ anymore |
| 02:13.17 | kd3 | probably because .gvfs is in .local or .config? |
| 02:13.55 | airtonix | well last week it would create ~/.gvfs/ssh at edge.home/ if i enter : ssh://edge.home/ in nautilus location field |
| 02:14.18 | kd3 | huh |
| 02:14.19 | airtonix | then i could use grep -Rn something ~/.gvfs/ssh\ at\ edge.home/projects/ |
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| 02:14.46 | airtonix | it used to do the same for smb ftp dav etc |
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| 02:39.02 | Shirik | We encountered the following error(s): |
| 02:39.02 | Shirik | You have provided an invalid Last Name. Please enter the correct information, and try again. |
| 02:39.08 | Shirik | Who the fuck are you to tell me my last name is invalid |
| 02:39.38 | Shirik | I think there should be laws restricting who is allowed to be a web developer |
| 02:39.44 | Shirik | because most of them seem to be incompetent |
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| 02:58.06 | starlon | problem is that they're being "trained" and not "educated" |
| 02:58.50 | starlon | but yeah, get a better surname ;) |
| 03:00.38 | Arrowmaster | better yet, they shouldnt even be asking for first name and last name |
| 03:00.48 | Arrowmaster | just ask for full name |
| 03:02.34 | Xyphoid | but but how will people mail merge cutesy hello messages without a first name |
| 03:02.56 | Xyphoid | Hello Bob von, |
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| 03:22.55 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/hLkIc |
| 03:23.13 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 03:35.30 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/Umsbj <- slightly nsfw |
| 03:36.32 | Wobin | Shirik: that's what you get for having a double barrelled surname =P |
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| 03:37.01 | Shirik | double barrelled? |
| 03:39.00 | Wobin | "Two parter" |
| 03:39.10 | Shirik | never heard that term before |
| 03:39.13 | Shirik | but wikipedia apparently has |
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| 04:15.35 | Ackis | You have earned the title 'Murkloc, Champion of the Naaru'. |
| 04:15.37 | Ackis | lol |
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| 04:17.10 | Cide | anyone who has killed lord rhyolith on 10-man this week? |
| 04:18.54 | Ackis | not in 10 man |
| 04:19.41 | Cide | lots of people are saying it's vastly more difficult than it was the week before |
| 04:19.47 | Cide | which is what we're seeing |
| 04:19.56 | Cide | like unkillable-difficult |
| 04:20.06 | TMc51 | ninja uber buff imo |
| 04:20.15 | Cide | right but |
| 04:20.21 | Cide | he's igniting volcanoes at an extreme rate |
| 04:20.32 | Cide | to the point where there are 3 up after like a minute |
| 04:20.40 | Cide | it's literally impossible to move him that fast |
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| 04:27.01 | Computerpunk | http://www.facebook.com/HelpNameMyBabyMegatron |
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| 04:28.14 | p3lim | Cide: We have, didnt notice anything changed |
| 04:28.25 | Cide | that's what some people say |
| 04:28.30 | Cide | how many healers do you run? |
| 04:28.43 | p3lim | 3 |
| 04:28.54 | Cide | do you have a WoL you could link? |
| 04:29.01 | p3lim | Ill check the forums |
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| 04:29.49 | Arrowmaster | Computerpunk: that page just caused a popup error about not being logged in, i suspect its trying to auto-like |
| 04:30.04 | p3lim | Cide: we seem to have stopped using WoL |
| 04:30.10 | Computerpunk | Arrowmaster: it doesn't try to. |
| 04:30.14 | Cide | p3lim: what |
| 04:30.18 | p3lim | Its just a casual guild, so nobody really cares :) |
| 04:30.26 | Computerpunk | The pop-up could be the new Facebook chat system. |
| 04:30.35 | Cide | there was nothing casual about the rhyolith we attempted tonight :( |
| 04:30.46 | p3lim | :p |
| 04:30.58 | p3lim | Actually downed Ragnaros tonight, first time |
| 04:31.02 | Arrowmaster | ah yeah it happens when mousing over somebodies name |
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| 04:31.23 | Arrowmaster | and i feel sorry for that guys child |
| 04:31.29 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 04:31.37 | Arrowmaster | and his wife |
| 04:31.41 | Computerpunk | That's a tooltip, not a popup. |
| 04:31.43 | Computerpunk | Why sorry? |
| 04:31.45 | Computerpunk | Like it. |
| 04:31.49 | Arrowmaster | its stupid |
| 04:31.49 | Computerpunk | I really want to see it happen. |
| 04:32.26 | Computerpunk | eventually |
| 04:32.33 | Computerpunk | it's gonna happe |
| 04:32.33 | Computerpunk | n |
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| 05:00.52 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/Larwood/companion <- need moar |
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| 05:48.38 | karl_w_w | most passive cold-caller ever |
| 05:49.23 | karl_w_w | "hi I'm looking for <person>" "she's at work at the moment" "ok I'll call back thank you" |
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| 06:21.30 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: what about that? That's how I deal with people not present when I'm calling, saves me from sticking near a phone and waiting for them |
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| 06:44.18 | Wobin | ... I'm not quite sure how Twitter is determining who I should follow... http://screencast.com/t/0i4diYO8w |
| 06:44.23 | Wobin | "People with EYES" |
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| 06:49.26 | AcidWeb | Anybody got idea on which day of the week wow china and wow korea got a downtime? :P |
| 06:52.47 | tlund | i would assume after tue/wed, since thats us/eu :) |
| 06:52.52 | tlund | but thats just a guess |
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| 07:02.58 | kd3 | hooooly fuck at tonight's wakeup music |
| 07:03.14 | kd3 | "I get knocked down, but I get up up again..." |
| 07:03.22 | tekkub | lolol |
| 07:03.25 | tekkub | I remember them |
| 07:03.27 | tekkub | uhm |
| 07:03.32 | tekkub | god what was their name |
| 07:03.54 | Thunder_Child | hoobistank? |
| 07:03.58 | kd3 | and pretty much the entire mission control room is having issues not falling over laughing |
| 07:04.01 | Thunder_Child | or something like that |
| 07:04.03 | tekkub | no but it was weird like that |
| 07:04.22 | Thunder_Child | tubthumping was the something |
| 07:04.29 | Thunder_Child | name of the song maybe |
| 07:04.39 | tekkub | chumbawhumba! |
| 07:04.45 | tekkub | that was the song name though, yea |
| 07:04.45 | Thunder_Child | right |
| 07:05.10 | kd3 | tubthumping(sp?) by chumbawhumba says the PAO |
| 07:05.10 | batbot | kd3, tub thumping, tub-thumping. |
| 07:05.20 | tekkub | thubtumping |
| 07:05.29 | kd3 | wth, batbot actually tried for that? |
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| 07:30.26 | Shirik | tubthumping is awesome, btw |
| 07:39.22 | Thunder_Child | do you mean the song or the actual action? |
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| 07:43.29 | airtonix | i just watched the latest bubblegum crisis move |
| 07:43.34 | airtonix | boomers, hehe |
| 07:45.00 | airtonix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_Dolls |
| 07:47.14 | Shirik | the song, Thunder_Child |
| 07:47.22 | Shirik | I did not realize it was an actual action |
| 07:47.39 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: um, hitting a tub would be tubthumping |
| 07:47.56 | Thunder_Child | that is an actual action |
| 07:48.18 | Shirik | .. |
| 07:49.11 | kd3 | just came up with something suitably erotic when he first heard the term |
| 07:49.22 | kd3 | you mean my mind isn't supposed to permanently live in the gutter? |
| 07:50.01 | kd3 | also, wth, it's 4 am. need to get up in 5 hours |
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| 08:00.47 | Maldivia | stretches |
| 08:01.37 | Mr_Rabies | i had no clue parasite dolls was connected to bubblegum crisis |
| 08:02.06 | Mr_Rabies | i haven't watched BGC yet but i really dig Konya wa Hurricane |
| 08:02.37 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lz2ae32lc0 [might be mildly NSFW, i forget] |
| 08:03.53 | Maldivia | for those it might br nsfw, it's 1-4am |
| 08:04.03 | Maldivia | be* |
| 08:04.16 | Kalroth | 10pm* |
| 08:04.20 | Kalroth | er 10am |
| 08:04.31 | Kalroth | fucking ams and pms! |
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| 08:05.03 | Maldivia | kalroth, is anything people link here deemed nsfw where you work? |
| 08:05.34 | Maldivia | ... then you work the wrong place :-) |
| 08:06.41 | Kalroth | depends |
| 08:07.01 | Kalroth | if theres boobies in it, then it's nsfw .. because I'll have all my coworkers come looking and bugging me |
| 08:07.17 | Kalroth | gore and blood and warcraft is fine though |
| 08:09.24 | Maldivia | also in these days? Last Friday we were 4 people in the entire building... ysually closer to 30 |
| 08:12.32 | Maldivia | and around 50 if everyone is there (which I have yet to experience) |
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| 08:21.12 | Kalroth | haha |
| 08:22.56 | karl_w_w | what is the compression format of firefox addons? |
| 08:23.03 | Kalroth | zip? |
| 08:23.24 | Kalroth | i think it's just a renamed zip file |
| 08:24.46 | karl_w_w | thats what i thought but its complaining about it may be corrupt |
| 08:27.02 | karl_w_w | nvm |
| 08:27.18 | karl_w_w | cos i was zipping up the folder instead of the files in the folder |
| 08:27.21 | karl_w_w | silly me |
| 08:32.15 | mckenziemc | corrupt you |
| 08:33.58 | karl_w_w | no ty |
| 08:34.03 | karl_w_w | things to do |
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| 08:59.24 | airtonix | wasup Gordan Freeman |
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| 10:01.11 | airtonix | coffee |
| 10:01.38 | bleeter | 'mocha' |
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| 10:34.57 | Lothaer | gday |
| 10:39.27 | Maldivia | howdy |
| 10:40.08 | jnwhiteh | I love TED talks |
| 10:40.08 | jnwhiteh | http://www.ted.com/talks/erin_mckean_redefines_the_dictionary.html |
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| 10:58.27 | sylvanaar | i love my code profiler, some small change i made made my IDE choke (5+ minutes to process) on globalstrings.lua, now it is back to <1sec |
| 10:59.03 | jnwhiteh | I had to use IntelliJ for a course this past month, and it made me cry |
| 10:59.12 | jnwhiteh | I mean, I finally got it to behave, its just there's .. so.... much. |
| 10:59.34 | jnwhiteh | and why on earth would they include an option to let the cursor go beyond end of line. It makes the pandas cry! |
| 10:59.35 | sylvanaar | hey, that means you can check out my plugin now! |
| 10:59.44 | jnwhiteh | hehe, I'm not doing that anymore :P |
| 10:59.51 | jnwhiteh | make one for Go and I'd consider it =) |
| 10:59.58 | sylvanaar | there is |
| 11:00.01 | jnwhiteh | Lua is a luxury these days |
| 11:00.01 | sylvanaar | already |
| 11:00.59 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:01.05 | jnwhiteh | I still <3 my vim tho |
| 11:01.19 | sylvanaar | have you tried IDEAVim? |
| 11:01.31 | jnwhiteh | well its not the vim behaviour I like |
| 11:01.37 | jnwhiteh | its the portability and size |
| 11:01.54 | jnwhiteh | I like that its tiny, and I can have it configured identically on all of my machines with minimal effort |
| 11:02.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, IDEA isn't an "editor" per-se, wheras I think of vim as an editor |
| 11:02.58 | airtonix | vim sucks |
| 11:03.02 | jnwhiteh | but then I want my editor to be more IDE like at times |
| 11:03.07 | jnwhiteh | but getting a tag browser fixed that for me |
| 11:03.39 | sylvanaar | i use a general purpose editor, and an IDE usually at the same time for different purposes |
| 11:04.20 | jnwhiteh | Have you ever used/seen LiteIDE? |
| 11:04.22 | jnwhiteh | http://code.google.com/p/golangide/ |
| 11:05.09 | sylvanaar | nope, never seen it |
| 11:05.18 | jnwhiteh | It actually was quite nice out of the box |
| 11:05.34 | sylvanaar | its a single language IDE |
| 11:05.46 | jnwhiteh | no, LiteIDE isn't |
| 11:05.54 | jnwhiteh | what I linked was a Go editor based on LiteIDE |
| 11:06.19 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/163d685c98171acad98fe596c2a5e6e0.png |
| 11:06.51 | sylvanaar | that looks nice |
| 11:07.12 | jnwhiteh | but this is how I normally work instead |
| 11:07.13 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e76e17b04a7f2946baf1e72cd349bd4f.png |
| 11:07.47 | jnwhiteh | I really need to alter TagList to read all the source in a given directory and compress the taglist into one |
| 11:07.55 | jnwhiteh | but that's where vim fails, is working in 'projects' |
| 11:08.30 | sylvanaar | exactly |
| 11:10.44 | sylvanaar | http://screencast.com/t/cud504ePROj that's me (and a bit of you too) |
| 11:11.09 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:15.50 | sylvanaar | that screenshot really doesnt show much either, most of the productivity gains come from the syntax and semantic checking and code browsing |
| 11:16.03 | jnwhiteh | yeah, that's what an IDE gives you |
| 11:18.07 | sylvanaar | i think my favorite is still the code formatter though |
| 11:20.22 | jnwhiteh | gofmt does that for me =) |
| 11:20.28 | jnwhiteh | would be useful for Lua though |
| 11:20.52 | sylvanaar | right - for Lua, even the go plugin in IDEA uses gofmt |
| 11:21.04 | jnwhiteh | I love the idea of gofmt |
| 11:21.04 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 11:21.12 | jnwhiteh | so heavy handed and awesome all at the same time :P |
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| 11:27.36 | sylvanaar | heh, i like the idea of it also, it eliminates some of the politics of formatting |
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| 11:31.18 | sylvanaar | you can do stuff like that in a new language |
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| 12:07.23 | airtonix | so get this |
| 12:07.35 | airtonix | there's this orwellian derange feminazi on tv |
| 12:07.54 | airtonix | who wants swearing in public to be a criminal offense |
| 12:08.53 | airtonix | shes like carls mum in southpark |
| 12:09.14 | airtonix | squawks alot |
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| 13:08.47 | karl_w_w | maelstrom crystals currently cheaper than heavenly shards on my realm |
| 13:10.36 | Kraps | borderlands will take 3 days to d/l? :/ |
| 13:11.41 | bluspacecow | :/ |
| 13:11.43 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 13:11.45 | bluspacecow | :\ |
| 13:12.34 | karl_w_w | how big is borderlands? |
| 13:12.51 | bluspacecow | bigger then yr mum |
| 13:13.11 | bluspacecow | she's a tiny liddle thang ! |
| 13:13.12 | karl_w_w | whoa |
| 13:13.27 | karl_w_w | that is true blu |
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| 13:15.34 | Kraps | this big http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10660+Mb&a=UnitClash_*Mb.*Megabits-- |
| 13:16.16 | karl_w_w | mass effect 2 is 11822 mb |
| 13:17.23 | karl_w_w | in other words, owned noob, my downloads r bigger then yorz! |
| 13:18.02 | Kraps | see, it should take this long http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10660+Mb+at+160+KB%2Fs |
| 13:18.18 | Kraps | (my gosh WA is amazing) |
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| 13:20.01 | karl_w_w | you new to it? :P |
| 13:20.56 | Kraps | i never really use it |
| 13:21.32 | Kraps | i typed that in to see if it would work |
| 13:22.54 | karl_w_w | its great for things like haste |
| 13:23.15 | karl_w_w | if you need to know how much haste you need to do a certain thing |
| 13:24.22 | Kraps | like seriously who does this shit http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=NACA+0012+airfoil&random=true |
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| 13:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | Someone who is bored? |
| 13:29.58 | Maldivia | Kraps: you did notive the Megabit / kilobytes in your equation, right? |
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| 13:39.30 | karl_w_w | !api role |
| 13:39.36 | karl_w_w | hellooooo |
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| 13:41.36 | jnwhiteh | hrm. |
| 13:41.39 | jnwhiteh | where did lua_bot go. |
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| 13:41.46 | nevcairiel | to a better place |
| 13:41.47 | nevcairiel | its ok |
| 13:42.00 | nevcairiel | ~seen lua_bot |
| 13:42.07 | purl | lua_bot <~lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 21h 20m 42s ago, saying: 'Found 0 addon results for 'TomTomTarget': http://is.gd/51JFO4'. |
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| 13:42.30 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: there's going to be too many results for role, I suspect =) |
| 13:42.32 | jnwhiteh | !api role |
| 13:42.33 | lua_bot | Found 20 possible matches for 'role'. Please be more specific |
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| 13:43.02 | nevcairiel | A link to a search function on the web page would really be awesome in those responses =) |
| 13:43.22 | jnwhiteh | it wouldn't be much more useful tho |
| 13:43.52 | jnwhiteh | hrm, I can make it useful, moment. |
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| 13:49.12 | bluspacecow | do i want to update to firefox 6 beta ? |
| 13:49.21 | bluspacecow | i don't remember if i have compat checking on or not |
| 13:49.30 | karl_w_w | firefox 6 |
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| 13:49.36 | karl_w_w | cant press / to search the page |
| 13:49.45 | bluspacecow | i must admit |
| 13:49.54 | bluspacecow | i only use it for facebook :\ |
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| 13:58.25 | karl_w_w | !api lfdrole |
| 13:58.25 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'lfdrole'. |
| 13:58.29 | karl_w_w | !api lfgrole |
| 13:58.29 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'lfgrole': GetLFGRoles, SetLFGRoles, GetLFGRoleUpdateSlot, CompleteLFGRoleCheck, GetLFGRoleShortageRewards, GetLFGRoleUpdate, GetLFGRoleUpdateMember |
| 13:58.54 | karl_w_w | !api setlfgroles |
| 13:58.54 | lua_bot | SetLFGRoles: Sets group roles for which to advertise the player in the LFG system (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetLFGRoles) |
| 13:58.56 | bluspacecow | meh i think i'll wait until either someone tells me its worthwhile or if they go RC w/e comes first :) |
| 13:59.01 | karl_w_w | nope |
| 13:59.36 | Lopeppeppy | bluspacecow, it's totally worthwhile! |
| 13:59.46 | karl_w_w | ok fuck this, cant even use the search when i start typing thing |
| 13:59.53 | bluspacecow | -________- u trolling me peppy ? |
| 13:59.57 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: why? |
| 14:00.27 | karl_w_w | not sure, possibly because fuckwits are developing firefox |
| 14:00.33 | jnwhiteh | oh, that =) |
| 14:00.55 | Lopeppeppy | Surly am, bluspacecow. *hug* |
| 14:01.11 | Lopeppeppy | I do it so rarely, and it's almost always before noon. |
| 14:01.18 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 14:01.28 | karl_w_w | might be a bug because the option is still there |
| 14:02.09 | bluspacecow | me_gusta.jpg - l liked it |
| 14:06.57 | Kraps | Maldivia: yeah, steam shows the game size in Megabits |
| 14:07.44 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/user/Minecraftaddict?blend=8&ob=5#p/a/u/2/_99cXjKqDqg |
| 14:07.46 | Kraps | karl_w_w: i avoid betas |
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| 14:21.28 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/130662749386.jpg |
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| 14:23.50 | karl_w_w | about:permissions is nice though |
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| 14:24.54 | Kraps | is that in 6? |
| 14:27.08 | Jamash | when did googel plus invites become available again? |
| 14:27.15 | Kraps | https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/6.0/releasenotes/buglist.html neo: whoa |
| 14:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | I have some... |
| 14:28.06 | Jamash | about:permissions is radikool++ |
| 14:28.57 | Jamash | also I'm running Aurora 7.0a2 and it seems pretty stable |
| 14:31.05 | Maldivia | space invaders - the movie... seriously? |
| 14:32.07 | bluspacecow | -______- is there any s.w out there that truly does not run on the mac ? i mean with Bootcamp and virtualisation you should be able to run anything on them in theory. |
| 14:32.22 | bluspacecow | eg |
| 14:32.24 | bluspacecow | http://crowdsupport.telstra.com/t5/Mobile-Broadband/3G21WB-internet-new-firmware-update-HELP-BigPond-EliteTM-Network/m-p/678 |
| 14:34.08 | Maldivia | bluespace, old mac programs :) |
| 14:36.20 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 14:37.31 | Fisker | like a boss mikma |
| 14:39.27 | Kraps | so its settled then http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=.9+%3D+1 |
| 14:42.23 | airtonix | Fisker: but not really |
| 14:46.31 | bluspacecow | @maldivia Sheepsaver ? |
| 14:47.52 | Kalroth | shaver* |
| 14:47.54 | Kraps | like a boss http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=harry+potter&a=*C.harry+potter-_*FictionalCharacter- |
| 14:50.34 | bluspacecow | why you want to shave a sheep ? |
| 14:53.01 | Kraps | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/imb1a/i_wrote_a_script_to_see_how_much_of_your_steam/ |
| 14:53.16 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:53.19 | Fisker | i likeaboss'd you |
| 14:55.51 | Fisker | poetic justice |
| 14:56.00 | Fisker | someone named Lefuu just ganked me |
| 14:56.02 | bluspacecow | you did ? |
| 14:56.08 | bluspacecow | i missed it :( |
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| 15:03.22 | Kraps | hey Ackis is this you? http://imgur.com/5OiYo |
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| 15:26.27 | Adys | Maldivia: who's morten post? |
| 15:27.21 | Arrowmaster | grr ive got a save game right outside this random encounter spot in fallout3 and reloading over and over and its not giving me the unique encounter i want |
| 15:27.36 | Fisker | sounds like a dick |
| 15:27.48 | Fisker | just gonna check if he's in my wheel of dicks |
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| 15:33.58 | Kraps | nation red ftw |
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| 15:36.52 | Kraps | auto perk is the way to go |
| 15:37.14 | AcidWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc |
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| 15:42.47 | Kraps | win AcidWeb |
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| 16:01.37 | Fisker | hehe |
| 16:01.48 | Fisker | leenock made a penis with creep spread |
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| 16:14.39 | Wobin | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/11/republicans-lightbulbs?CMP=twt_fd |
| 16:14.42 | Wobin | I... don't even... |
| 16:14.59 | SuperMoo | anyone come across a api function that can get the BG image for the instance you are in? |
| 16:15.07 | Wobin | how do these people even have the brain capacity to.. like.. live? |
| 16:15.26 | alestane | http://www.odditycentral.com/news/lego-masters-recreate-middle-earth-all-of-it.html |
| 16:16.04 | SuperMoo | its like the facebookcat they are doing it wrong |
| 16:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | I... dismay myself by half-agreeing with their half-assed arguments. *sigh* I do agree that sometimes things are pushed onto the edges of other bills, and might bear re-thinking later down the road. I disagree with anything that comes out of that lady's mouth out of principle, however. |
| 16:16.40 | foxlit | Bachmann looks horrible in photos |
| 16:16.43 | foxlit | THERE ARE NO EYES |
| 16:16.54 | Lopeppeppy | Just black pits of despair, foxlit. |
| 16:16.57 | Wobin | eyes are windows to the soul |
| 16:16.59 | Lopeppeppy | Looks just like her, to me. |
| 16:17.01 | Wobin | thus. |
| 16:17.22 | alestane | Obviously, you should be allowed to waste money and energy on whatever lightbulbs you want, instead of spending tax dollars on shutting down people making cheap goods for no reason...or that seems to be the line of reasoning. But it's pure pandering, when you get right down to it. |
| 16:17.37 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.38 | Wobin | no. |
| 16:17.45 | Wobin | It is -just- about energy consumption |
| 16:17.48 | Wobin | and personal freedom |
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| 16:18.05 | Lopeppeppy | It's about being right about the wrong thing. |
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| 16:18.10 | Wobin | the two are not mutually disclusive |
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| 16:18.38 | Wobin | sure, yes, fight for personal freedom. |
| 16:18.39 | SuperMoo | well there should be freedom there yes.... but... put the taxes on the cheap non energy efficient. and pull the price down on the energy saver ones and see how the sales go then lol |
| 16:18.42 | Wobin | but do it with stuff that MATTERS |
| 16:18.44 | foxlit | Not a very compelling argument, though |
| 16:19.04 | foxlit | It is, perhaps, a limitation of your personal freedom |
| 16:19.06 | SuperMoo | whats next... ants should have right too? |
| 16:19.13 | Wobin | I can see the slippery slope. |
| 16:19.20 | foxlit | However, we already do that in many ways. You cannot release poisons into the atmosphere, however |
| 16:19.30 | foxlit | s/however/for example |
| 16:19.36 | SuperMoo | or.. the saying.. dont heat for the birds.... well soon you have to else they will sue us lol |
| 16:19.52 | Wobin | people clearly should have the right to kill themselves |
| 16:20.02 | Wobin | the government is stopping this from happening. |
| 16:20.07 | Wobin | it's an abuse of our rights! |
| 16:20.11 | foxlit | but but! |
| 16:20.13 | SuperMoo | and the wrongly spelled michelle should get that right first ;) |
| 16:20.13 | foxlit | life is sacred. |
| 16:20.26 | SuperMoo | life is sacred???? go eat some grass lol. |
| 16:20.39 | Wobin | says the holy cow =P |
| 16:20.50 | SuperMoo | we have a circle of life, and we are not meant to eat veggies only.. |
| 16:20.56 | SuperMoo | I'm not holy.. I'm delicious ;P |
| 16:20.57 | Wobin | I hear it moves us all |
| 16:21.05 | foxlit | "meant" :P |
| 16:21.47 | SuperMoo | dam queues takes forever lol |
| 16:22.00 | foxlit | I've found that random battlegrounds are instant |
| 16:22.31 | SuperMoo | well i want an easy way to assign http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface/LFGFRAME the UI-LFG-BACKGROUND-THEFORGEOFSOULS.png to the current instance I'm in... anyone know a way to retrieve the naming of an instance youre in like that? |
| 16:22.54 | jnwhiteh | check and see how the default UI does it |
| 16:23.11 | jnwhiteh | since I believe those are displayed somewhere, perhaps when choosing an instance from the dropdown |
| 16:23.29 | SuperMoo | i have no idea where they are displayed |
| 16:23.39 | foxlit | on invitations |
| 16:23.46 | foxlit | Which makes it unlikely that it'd be useful to you |
| 16:23.47 | SuperMoo | its the bg's for the new journal lol |
| 16:23.55 | jnwhiteh | no its not |
| 16:23.58 | jnwhiteh | they're from the LFGFrame |
| 16:24.02 | jnwhiteh | as the name clearly indicates |
| 16:24.05 | jnwhiteh | and foxlit is correct |
| 16:24.10 | SuperMoo | they use them in the journals |
| 16:24.17 | SuperMoo | -s |
| 16:24.18 | jnwhiteh | okay, but they existed before that |
| 16:24.23 | SuperMoo | probably ;P |
| 16:24.25 | foxlit | journal is limited to cataclysm dungeons |
| 16:24.33 | foxlit | Does not really explain, say, http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/Interface/LFGFRAME/UI-LFG-BACKGROUND-RAZORFENKRAUL.png |
| 16:24.48 | SuperMoo | yeh i guessed that much |
| 16:25.16 | jnwhiteh | They're used here |
| 16:25.17 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/LFDFrame.lua |
| 16:25.24 | jnwhiteh | and you've gotta learn how to look some of this stuff up on your own |
| 16:25.26 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:25.35 | Jamash | also, the journal will be extended to all dungeons eventually |
| 16:25.51 | jnwhiteh | they are NOT used in the journal |
| 16:26.01 | jnwhiteh | or if they are, the full path is specified somewhere magical |
| 16:26.08 | Jamash | I didn't say they were |
| 16:26.13 | jnwhiteh | I know you didn't =) |
| 16:26.34 | jnwhiteh | SuperMoo: http://www.google.com/search?q=UI-LFG-BACKGROUND&as_sitesearch=wowprogramming.com |
| 16:26.36 | jnwhiteh | first result. |
| 16:26.38 | Jamash | I just said the journal will be extended to all dungeons, re: what foxlit said |
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| 16:26.45 | jnwhiteh | I'm not disagreeing with you |
| 16:26.51 | Jamash | oh yeah??? |
| 16:26.52 | jnwhiteh | context should have told you that |
| 16:26.58 | jnwhiteh | unless you're ignoring the conversation you're participating in :P |
| 16:27.02 | Jamash | oh yeah??? |
| 16:27.07 | jnwhiteh | YARLY |
| 16:27.19 | Jamash | fosho |
| 16:27.22 | foxlit | most useless UI change ever: the battleground start countdown animation |
| 16:27.26 | Jamash | I like it |
| 16:27.28 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:27.30 | Jamash | therefore it is useful |
| 16:27.31 | jnwhiteh | i think its fun |
| 16:27.35 | SuperMoo | well it lies lol |
| 16:27.46 | Jamash | I've found it to be accurate |
| 16:27.50 | foxlit | I think someone had too much time and not enough useful things to do :P |
| 16:28.19 | jnwhiteh | SuperMoo: what lies? |
| 16:28.21 | SuperMoo | well... 3....2....1..... inserc 1 sec delay show a hhorde logo for 2 sec then fade out then open |
| 16:28.27 | jnwhiteh | oh, heh |
| 16:28.33 | Jamash | I'd certainly take omniCC being integrated over the bg timer, but hey |
| 16:28.54 | Jamash | SuperMoo: lag? |
| 16:29.07 | foxlit | curse you, leatherworking |
| 16:29.15 | Jamash | ha |
| 16:29.17 | foxlit | low-level leather costs obscene amounts of gold. |
| 16:29.27 | Jamash | skin it yourself? |
| 16:29.35 | jnwhiteh | I'd say its rediculous |
| 16:29.43 | Jamash | r u trollin bro |
| 16:29.50 | jnwhiteh | why rumad? |
| 16:29.51 | Dagmar | It doesn't cost that. |
| 16:30.09 | Dagmar | I can guarantee you the guy who bought it all and relisted it for that didn't pay anywhere near that much. |
| 16:30.35 | foxlit | Jamash: that's the basic plan. |
| 16:30.35 | Jamash | ~sp rediculous |
| 16:30.45 | foxlit | However, then you run into the second issue: you need obscene amounts of it |
| 16:30.50 | Dagmar | Hit up Wailing Caverns or something and hoover up piles of it |
| 16:30.56 | SuperMoo | 54ms lag to my server |
| 16:31.06 | jnwhiteh | .. 54ms isn't lag |
| 16:31.07 | jnwhiteh | its latency |
| 16:31.13 | Jamash | oh u |
| 16:31.14 | foxlit | needs Heavy now. |
| 16:31.21 | jnwhiteh | that's fast |
| 16:31.25 | SuperMoo | well i'm not the only who noticed it |
| 16:31.31 | jnwhiteh | I blame your computer |
| 16:31.38 | Jamash | I blame society |
| 16:32.08 | karl_w_w | there's no loading screen longer than the one you get when you just realised you're logging on to the wrong character |
| 16:32.17 | bluspacecow | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell |
| 16:32.19 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 16:32.42 | foxlit | karl_w_w: probably true, but 5 seconds isn't really that long :) |
| 16:33.07 | karl_w_w | ssd foxlit? |
| 16:33.09 | foxlit | so sit back and think of england. |
| 16:33.21 | foxlit | ssd <3 |
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| 16:35.45 | karl_w_w | wanna buy me one foxlit? |
| 16:36.02 | foxlit | Meh, get one yourself. They aren't really too expensive |
| 16:36.22 | alestane | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/7423592225/my-client-finished-the-150-pages-for-a-book-i-was |
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| 16:37.21 | foxlit | https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=corsair+f80a&tbm=shop |
| 16:38.06 | karl_w_w | actually i probably would get one |
| 16:38.16 | karl_w_w | but i cbf |
| 16:38.37 | karl_w_w | moving stuff onto it, seems like such a chore :P |
| 16:39.22 | Jamash | yes, click and drag is a terrible burden |
| 16:39.33 | foxlit | ~Jamash++ |
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| 16:43.53 | karl_w_w | yeah im sure my program installs would be extremely happy with that situation |
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| 16:44.24 | karl_w_w | why am i not seeing item ids on my items on my alt |
| 16:44.59 | Jamash | karl_w_w: mklink /? |
| 16:45.10 | karl_w_w | because i didnt turn it on in ratingbuster |
| 16:49.25 | foxlit | just copy wow |
| 16:49.32 | foxlit | wow doesn't care, it's pro like that |
| 16:51.00 | durcyn | dumping stateful data in the application directory is pro now? |
| 16:51.41 | foxlit | as opposed to dumping it into some unrelated directory? Yes, I'd prefer that. |
| 16:52.27 | Dagmar | The alternative is to wrangle with the tangled mess of UAC |
| 16:52.40 | Cide | how is uac a tangled mess? |
| 16:52.55 | Jamash | a well-designed program would put state in the user's home directory |
| 16:52.58 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.10 | Cide | fuck that, Jamash |
| 16:53.12 | Jamash | however, since running wow requires write access to the wow directory anyway it's moot |
| 16:53.15 | Dagmar | ...or just put a <font size=96 color=red name=Impact><blink>fuck all you Vista-using bishes</blink></font> up. |
| 16:54.01 | Jamash | Cide: FHS ftl? |
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| 16:54.31 | Cide | pretty much |
| 16:54.58 | Jamash | I like having all files related to a user in one place (their home directory) |
| 16:55.22 | Jamash | of course, MS has repeatedly botched that concept so badly that a lot of windows programs don't |
| 16:56.23 | foxlit | I only have one user on my PC |
| 16:56.30 | Jamash | like, what's the difference between AppData\Local, AppData\LocalLow and AppData\Roaming? |
| 16:56.50 | foxlit | So the distinction is lost on me |
| 16:57.16 | Cide | local versus roaming user profile data? |
| 16:57.19 | Jamash | would you rather back up your user files by backing up one directory, or a hundred? |
| 16:58.18 | foxlit | I don't always backup. But when I do, it's the entire disk. |
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| 16:58.25 | Jamash | cool story bro |
| 16:59.04 | foxlit | In this case, any data I actually care about is on a mac; and that backs up all of it |
| 16:59.10 | Dagmar | I'd rather they have spent more than one lunchbreak working out what contexts they were trying to create |
| 16:59.39 | Jamash | ^ |
| 17:00.24 | Cide | so you don't know the design but you can criticize it? |
| 17:00.40 | Cide | <Jamash> like, what's the difference between AppData\Local, AppData\LocalLow and AppData\Roaming? |
| 17:00.53 | Jamash | yes, Cide |
| 17:01.06 | Cide | that's quite silly |
| 17:01.24 | Jamash | I don't know how the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was designed but I can criticize it for falling down |
| 17:01.35 | Cide | you can't, actually |
| 17:01.45 | Jamash | It was a bad bridge, because it fell down |
| 17:01.53 | Dagmar | *Microsoft* doesn't appear to know the design |
| 17:01.54 | foxlit | And yet you cannot blame the design |
| 17:01.58 | Cide | the bridge was fine, the resonant frequency wasn't |
| 17:02.00 | Jamash | Yes I can. |
| 17:02.07 | foxlit | Because the bridge might've been built out of duct tape |
| 17:02.11 | Fisker | haha |
| 17:02.22 | Jamash | It was a bad design, because it fell down due to wind. |
| 17:02.30 | Fisker | just spent 10 minutes harassing some party trying to have their hunter tame the new spider in molten front |
| 17:02.30 | Cide | it did not fall down due to wind |
| 17:02.34 | Fisker | i had fun |
| 17:02.38 | Cide | it fell down due to resonance |
| 17:02.47 | foxlit | Without knowing the design, how can you conclude that it failed due to the design? |
| 17:03.06 | Jamash | Cide: Could you come over and help me split some hairs sometime? You seem to be really good at it. |
| 17:03.26 | Cide | funny, but sadly incorrect |
| 17:03.46 | Parnic | http://www.gifflix.com/files/4326f39cc6e2.gif |
| 17:03.47 | Jamash | foxlit: because it went wooba wooba wooba then fell down |
| 17:04.05 | Cide | had the wind simply puffed it down it would obviously have been an obscene failure at calculating external forces |
| 17:04.34 | Cide | in this case the wind's frequency on that particular day was the same as the bridge's internal resonant frequency |
| 17:05.09 | Cide | it's an entirely different problem |
| 17:05.16 | Jamash | I don't have to have a degree in structural engineering, aerodynamic physics, materials science, or in fact any technical knowledge whatsoever to criticize the design of the bridge, because *it fell down due to wind* |
| 17:05.45 | Cide | it fell due to resonance, not wind |
| 17:05.56 | foxlit | Without any of those things, your criticism is irrelevant to me |
| 17:06.05 | Jamash | you're the kind of person who calls death from gunshot "lead poisoning" aren't you |
| 17:06.07 | Dagmar | Either way, it's generally a primary design consideration that the things not fall into the water |
| 17:06.11 | foxlit | You may refer to someone else who established that it fell down due to wind because of a design flaw if you wish |
| 17:06.12 | Dagmar | Why doesn't really fucking matter. |
| 17:06.19 | Dagmar | THat it fell is proof positive that it was a bad design. |
| 17:06.23 | Jamash | ^^^^^ |
| 17:06.34 | Wobin | No, he said he can criticise it for falling down |
| 17:06.39 | Wobin | not that the design caused it |
| 17:06.56 | Cide | the structural design was fine. |
| 17:07.00 | Jamash | no it wasn't |
| 17:07.05 | Wobin | but it clearly acted as a bridge shouldn't |
| 17:07.10 | Dagmar | Or would you like to claim that the bridge was actually designed deliberately to fall over when the wind is up, as a means of keeping the proletariat's numbers down |
| 17:07.11 | Wobin | by not being.. bridgey |
| 17:07.17 | Jamash | ^Dagmar |
| 17:07.30 | Cide | "^Foo" is silly; express your own opinion |
| 17:07.48 | Dagmar | If you're designing bridges that are meant to fall into the river, please let us know your portfolio so we can just swim across. |
| 17:07.51 | Jamash | My opinion is that you are intentionally being obtuse, Cide |
| 17:07.54 | Cide | had they altered the internal resonant frequency (which does not require altering the structure or design) it would have not fallen |
| 17:08.06 | Jamash | it actually does require altering the structure and design |
| 17:08.10 | Wobin | but they didn't. |
| 17:08.13 | Dagmar | I suppose one does that with crystals and humming. |
| 17:08.15 | Wobin | so, as a bridge, it failed |
| 17:08.17 | Jamash | unless you're going to alter the resonant frequency without touching the bridge |
| 17:08.18 | Parnic | are we still talking about windows appdata? |
| 17:08.19 | Cide | naturally, Wobin |
| 17:08.22 | Jamash | Parnic: yes |
| 17:08.27 | Parnic | just checking. |
| 17:08.28 | Wobin | and as a bridge, it was not a good bridge |
| 17:08.28 | Cide | Parnic: yeah I don't really get the analogue |
| 17:08.42 | foxlit | Hey, the WTC towers kind of collapsed too |
| 17:08.45 | foxlit | Those weren't very good :) |
| 17:08.53 | Jamash | The analogy is this: I can criticize a design for failing the end user without knowing a goddamn thing about how it was designed |
| 17:08.56 | Cide | the airplanes didn't fly, either |
| 17:09.10 | Wobin | All Stuff Is Shit =P |
| 17:09.12 | Cide | and the people didn't live |
| 17:09.42 | Cide | and the fire department didn't put out the fires |
| 17:09.56 | foxlit | so, to split hairs, criticism of the /bridge/ is fine; criticism of the /design/ of the bridge is kind of meh. |
| 17:10.01 | Dagmar | Bridges are supposed to stay up. |
| 17:10.09 | Cide | so are airplanes and towers |
| 17:10.20 | Dagmar | If it fell down from anything short of a goddamn tornado it was a bad design, by definition. |
| 17:10.44 | Dagmar | It's not like resonant frequencies are from the realm of pixies and magic elves. |
| 17:10.52 | bluspacecow | kk sleepys times |
| 17:10.58 | Cide | even so, Jamash, what is your criticism of AppData\Local versus AppData\Roaming, given that it must obviously fail the end user, other than the fact that you simply don't know the difference between them? |
| 17:10.59 | Dagmar | It's an engineer's job to know that shit. |
| 17:11.08 | Jamash | so if your brakes failed while you were going 100km/h and you smashed into a bridge abutment and died, and many other individuals experienced the same problem, you would posthumously argue that the design was not at fault? |
| 17:11.10 | foxlit | May have just as easily been bad implementation :) |
| 17:11.21 | Dagmar | ...becuase that's what makes them different from some asshole with a drafting board and a fancy stationary set |
| 17:13.50 | Cide | so citing wikipedia |
| 17:13.55 | Jamash | because some programs put data in Username\AppData\*\NamOfProgram and some in Username\My Documents\NameOfProgram and some in User\NameOfProgram and some in Username\My Documents\My Games\NameOfProgram and some in Program Files\NameOfProgram because microsoft changes their "standards" so often that there are no standards at all |
| 17:14.05 | Cide | it appears that I was wrong about the resonance, but it illustrates the point I'm making |
| 17:14.32 | Jamash | thus leading to ridiculous nonsense like the virtual store |
| 17:14.33 | Dagmar | I think we can see the point you're making just fine, but a decent haberdasher should be able to compensate for it. |
| 17:14.34 | Cide | "In the case of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, there was no resonance. [...] It can be concluded therefore that the vortex shedding was not the cause of the bridge collapse. The event can be understood only while considering the coupled aerodynamic and structural system that requires rigorous mathematical analysis to reveal all the degrees of freedom of the particular structure and the set of design loads imposed." |
| 17:15.38 | Cide | it is pretty likely that such analysis was impractical in 1940 |
| 17:16.12 | Jamash | My point, Cide, is that instead of having a single place to put user data, there are half a dozen places, most of which users can't even see without changing explorer options, and thus Microsoft is bad at design |
| 17:16.23 | Cide | you may be right |
| 17:16.35 | Cide | or maybe you're just blaming microsoft for the faults of application authors? |
| 17:16.35 | nicoli_s | microsoft is just bad at sticking to a design |
| 17:16.46 | Jamash | nope |
| 17:16.49 | Dagmar | No we're blaming Microsoft for the actions of Microsoft. |
| 17:16.56 | nicoli_s | not toatally the same as being bad at design |
| 17:17.10 | durcyn | microsoft sticks to designs all the time, there are just 37 of said designs |
| 17:17.12 | Jamash | I'm blaming Microsoft for designing things badly, because they are bad at design |
| 17:17.31 | Dagmar | ...and considering that Nikola Tesla knew quite a lot about resonany frequencies fully 40 years earlier it doesn't wash. |
| 17:17.42 | Cide | did you not read, Dagmar? |
| 17:17.42 | Jamash | MicrosoftUserDirectoryStandardExExExExEx() |
| 17:17.49 | Dagmar | They don't need to find out what it might be, they were supposed to design to avoid it. |
| 17:17.54 | Cide | it was caused by aeroelastic flutter, not resonant frequencies |
| 17:18.00 | Dagmar | I read fine. What I don't parse is dimwittery. |
| 17:18.02 | Cide | and aeroelasticity was *defined* in 1947 |
| 17:18.19 | Dagmar | So basically, you were making shit up to justify your argument, which was pretty damn pointless to begin with. |
| 17:18.37 | Cide | no; I was using my incorrect knowledge of the cause of the bridge collapse |
| 17:18.42 | Cide | and I admitted my mistake |
| 17:18.53 | Jamash | The design flaw was noticed during construction. It was completed and opened for public use nonetheless. |
| 17:19.09 | Cide | source? |
| 17:19.13 | Jamash | And then fell down. |
| 17:19.17 | Jamash | Your mother. |
| 17:19.45 | Jamash | coincidentally, they call her "Galloping Gertie" too, but for a different reason |
| 17:19.49 | Cide | if you're arguing something and calling me a dimwit and saying I make up shit, why don't you actually *attempt* to back up your statements? |
| 17:19.59 | Cide | I do, and I'm getting shit for it. |
| 17:20.27 | Parnic | fisker did i win my wishlist? |
| 17:20.29 | Jamash | The same Wikipedia article you quoted, herp derp |
| 17:20.35 | Fisker | i don't know Parnic |
| 17:20.36 | Fisker | did you? |
| 17:20.38 | Fisker | in whic case |
| 17:20.40 | Fisker | which* |
| 17:20.44 | Parnic | i don't know |
| 17:20.47 | Parnic | how would i find out? |
| 17:20.49 | Fisker | reported to some kind of government body who deals with that |
| 17:20.52 | Fisker | you're affiliated! |
| 17:20.55 | Fisker | guess they would mail you |
| 17:21.46 | Cide | Jamash: then you would see that they did several things to reduce the oscillations, and deemed the bridge safe |
| 17:21.59 | Cide | but whatever, it's obvious you're not really interested in making a point other than the usual microsoft-bashing :) afk |
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| 17:22.29 | Parnic | lol fisker, the summer games are still listed as 'specials' but say "-0%" |
| 17:22.35 | Jamash | I hope your computer explodes and catches fire Cide :) afk |
| 17:22.37 | Fisker | :O |
| 17:23.42 | Dagmar | Oh we weren't bashing. we were stating a simple fact. Vista's UAC was poorly thought out and poorly implemented. |
| 17:23.50 | Dagmar | In the parlance, it's a fuckin' mes. |
| 17:23.53 | Dagmar | s/mes/mess/; |
| 17:24.38 | Fisker | UAC did exactly what it was supposed to do |
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| 17:25.01 | Jamash | piss people off? |
| 17:25.01 | Parnic | it stopped you from fisking? |
| 17:25.13 | Fisker | indeed Jamash |
| 17:25.45 | Jamash | one "design" "principle" microsoft seems to have is to put every thing in a different place in every version of every product |
| 17:25.57 | Fisker | na |
| 17:25.58 | Fisker | naw |
| 17:26.05 | Jamash | the "look busy, the boss is watching" method of software design |
| 17:26.19 | Fisker | only really happened from XP to Vista in my opinion |
| 17:26.28 | Fisker | and maybe Windows 2->3 and Windows 3->954 |
| 17:26.30 | Fisker | 95* |
| 17:27.25 | Jamash | and 95->98 and 98->me and 98->xp and vista->7 |
| 17:27.43 | Jamash | and every version of word |
| 17:27.52 | Fisker | Word != Windows |
| 17:28.01 | Fisker | and i disagree with everything else |
| 17:28.02 | Fisker | jerks |
| 17:28.04 | Jamash | I said "product", not "operating system" |
| 17:28.25 | Jamash | even the xbox interface changes yearly |
| 17:28.28 | Fisker | Microsoft only makes Windows |
| 17:28.28 | Fisker | jerk |
| 17:28.39 | Fisker | everything else is outsourced to jerks |
| 17:31.16 | Jamash | they should sell the xbox to nintendo |
| 17:33.40 | Jamash | "xbox, don't scratch my discs" |
| 17:33.49 | TMc|ZzZzZz | But Nintendo doesn't need any of that fancy shmancy HD stuff in their consoles. |
| 17:33.51 | Jamash | "I'm sorry, Jamash, I'm afraid I can't do that" |
| 17:34.07 | nicoli_s | TMc|ZzZzZz:except they are adding hd in the new one |
| 17:34.22 | TMc|ZzZzZz | I know. Was pretty much taking a crack at the Wii. :P |
| 17:34.31 | nicoli_s | no fair, the wii is awesome |
| 17:34.57 | TMc51 | Meh, screw the wii. |
| 17:35.01 | Jamash | I wish the console manufacturers would stop trying to turn their consoles into novelty marital aids and make good hardware that developers can use to make good games |
| 17:35.03 | TMc51 | Get Dolphin instead. |
| 17:35.19 | Jamash | it had a handle |
| 17:36.03 | Fisker | dolphin sucks |
| 17:36.09 | Fisker | we're talking about the browser right? |
| 17:36.10 | Jamash | this whole waggle/handwaving/ice cream cone/screencontroller nonsense is making me angry |
| 17:36.37 | TMc51 | Fisker: No, the Gamecube/Wii emulator that runs the majority of games at full speed. |
| 17:36.43 | Fisker | not rendering wii games in 720p or 1080p is lulz |
| 17:36.44 | Jamash | make a console that is for playing games on and nothing else |
| 17:36.54 | Fisker | noty.jpg Jamash |
| 17:37.06 | Fisker | make integrated console/media server |
| 17:37.10 | Fisker | would be kthx |
| 17:37.12 | Jamash | yeah I like how the emulator can upres nintendo games but nintendo can't |
| 17:37.22 | nevcairiel | The Wii was never meant as a traditional console, rather blame everyone else for trying to fake it on their consoles |
| 17:38.05 | TMc51 | Jamash: and that is one reason why Wii jokes practically make themselves. |
| 17:38.18 | nicoli_s | not really a fair comparison |
| 17:38.31 | nicoli_s | i doubt a computer running the same specs as the wii could upres games and play them lag free |
| 17:38.48 | Jamash | nicoli_s: not the Wii, the Wii2 |
| 17:39.02 | Jamash | it won't upres wii games, according to nintendo |
| 17:39.03 | TMc51 | a computer witht he same specs probably couldn't emulate a NES. |
| 17:39.05 | TMc51 | ~rimshot |
| 17:39.05 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 17:39.08 | nicoli_s | ahh ok |
| 17:39.10 | nicoli_s | that is bullshit |
| 17:40.11 | Arrowmaster | maybe we will finally get 720p native rendering next gen |
| 17:40.14 | Jamash | I blame sony for using their console to sell their stupid cell processor/stupid bluray format, nintendo for repeatedly proving that they don't care about third party games, microsoft for making a console that breaks itself and the discs I put in it, and apple for trying to turn computers into consoles |
| 17:41.13 | TMc51 | I laugh at everybody that gets an RRoD. I've had my console since laun ch, and it's always worked perfectly. |
| 17:41.23 | Jamash | also, nintendo for friend codes and microsoft for "gold" fees, and sony for removing otheros |
| 17:41.30 | TMc51 | But then again, I did mod it to hell, and heat's no concern at all at this point. |
| 17:41.35 | Arrowmaster | my launch console RRoDed because of a bad console update |
| 17:41.42 | TMc51 | ouch |
| 17:41.43 | nevcairiel | you should open a rant blog. :p |
| 17:41.50 | Jamash | I have one, I just don't update it |
| 17:42.33 | Jamash | http://betteropinion.blogspot.com/ |
| 17:43.09 | Parnic | Arrowmaster: so you got a free new one, right? |
| 17:43.14 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 17:43.27 | Arrowmaster | 3 year warranty was up |
| 17:43.33 | TMc51 | =\ |
| 17:43.42 | Seerah | hubby's died *just* after warranty, too. |
| 17:43.48 | Jamash | a friend's 360 ate my rock band 2 disc |
| 17:43.53 | Seerah | I think there's a timer on them :p |
| 17:43.55 | Arrowmaster | so i went 3 months without a console and bought the 250gb MW2 bundle on release day |
| 17:43.55 | Parnic | update-bricking is a free replacement for all consoles, warranty notwithstanding |
| 17:44.02 | nevcairiel | Jamash: tell him to feed it more often |
| 17:44.06 | Jamash | because microsoft had to save 30 cents by not padding the metal around the spinning disc |
| 17:44.20 | TMc51 | Seerah: That would mean M$ is working with Dell. We all know they have timers to break them the day the warranty ends. :P |
| 17:44.26 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: i called support multiple times and they kept telling me it would cost $100 to send it into them |
| 17:44.33 | Parnic | lame |
| 17:45.03 | Arrowmaster | if you have a link to an official source saying that im willing to try again |
| 17:45.12 | Arrowmaster | i still have the original console boxed up |
| 17:45.27 | Parnic | well i thought you were referring to the disc format update, but since you said the mw2 launch console was after yours broke, you must not be :P |
| 17:45.30 | Parnic | so nevermind! |
| 17:46.18 | Ackis | I was hoping the disc format would have broken mine :( |
| 17:46.30 | Arrowmaster | i would have loved to have gotten an email saying i got a replacement xbox because of that but im guessing since that console hasnt been online in years they didnt check |
| 17:47.02 | Arrowmaster | i heard that i could jtag mine and get it fixed |
| 17:47.16 | Jamash | star trekkin' across the universe, boldly going forward, since we can't find reverse |
| 17:49.54 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (~KarlKFI@ip68-5-250-127.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 17:50.01 | Arrowmaster | so i tried to go shopping for new shoes on sunday so i could have better shoes for blizzcon but nobody fucking carries anything in wide sizes |
| 17:50.27 | Fisker | sounds like you're shopping for my penis and not your shoes |
| 17:51.12 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: must be hard finding condoms wider than they are long |
| 17:51.33 | Ackis | well played Arrowmaster |
| 17:51.36 | Fisker | actually they expand even beyond my penis size |
| 17:53.05 | TMc51 | Arrowmaster: Know how that's like. It sucks trying to find good shoes when you're a 14 4E. It pretty much means you're stuck with crappy Nike Crosstrainers. |
| 17:53.17 | Parnic | i love nike crosstrainers |
| 17:53.22 | Jamash | and I sang "Bounce the graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish, that's the way we do things, lad, we're making sh** up as we wish, the Klingons and the Romulans pose no threat to us, 'cause if we find we're in a bind, we just make some sh** up." |
| 17:53.32 | TMc51 | Jamash: <3 |
| 17:53.43 | TMc51 | Voltaire FTW |
| 17:53.44 | Jamash | I should have played that last night |
| 17:54.22 | Jamash | I was all like "yeah, stun weapons have a range of 10 and you can stun droids, who cares, space rocks did it" |
| 17:54.39 | Arrowmaster | TMc51: yeah im wearing 11.5 extra wides right now that im assuming are 2E |
| 17:54.59 | Arrowmaster | but they are a bit long |
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| 17:55.20 | TMc51 | Lucky you. A lot easier to find a decent pair under a 12, regardless of width. |
| 17:56.25 | Arrowmaster | well im trying to find something well vented too, ive got solid leather shoes right now and end up with soaked socks |
| 17:57.20 | TMc51 | crosstrainers IMO. they look like shit, but at least they're comfortable and don't have that kind of issue. |
| 17:57.30 | Jamash | toe shoes |
| 17:57.36 | TMc51 | lol |
| 17:57.58 | TMc51 | those things are so awful even the military baninated them. |
| 17:58.03 | Jamash | TOE SHOES |
| 17:59.17 | Arrowmaster | was actually looking at ordering a pair of nike air max's from online, they even give 30 days to return them for any reason including size not being right |
| 17:59.52 | Arrowmaster | since online seems to be the only way to get them in 2E |
| 18:00.01 | TMc51 | nice |
| 18:00.48 | TMc51 | I've got a pair of Air Monarchs sitting around somewhere. |
| 18:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | Voltaire kicks ass. |
| 18:04.43 | TMc51 | http://jalopnik.com/5819911/toyota-continues-to-chase-nerds-now-with-less-awkwardness/gallery/ almost makes me want a Prius. |
| 18:05.34 | Yoshimo | is it possible to retrieve the spellids from the dungeonjournal? |
| 18:05.45 | Arrowmaster | id drive the red one |
| 18:06.16 | TMc51 | Pfffft! Everybody knows Unit 0 is better than Unit 2. /nerdface |
| 18:08.08 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> Hey, the WTC towers kind of collapsed too <- planes flying into a building is not reasonably forseeable. wind blowing on a bridge is. |
| 18:08.36 | Parnic | oh no, we're not doing that again |
| 18:08.38 | Arrowmaster | puts TMc51 in Unit 3 |
| 18:08.46 | TMc51 | :'( |
| 18:09.08 | TMc51 | Wait, which Unit 3? Anime, or manga? |
| 18:09.32 | Arrowmaster | anime |
| 18:09.47 | TMc51 | Yay, I survive and get to live afterwards. =D |
| 18:14.39 | Arrowmaster | TMc51: are you confusing anime and movies? |
| 18:14.47 | TMc51 | nah |
| 18:14.53 | TMc51 | the remakes follow the manga |
| 18:15.14 | Dagmar | It's not the number of your unit, but the size that matters. |
| 18:15.35 | Arrowmaster | TMc51: unit 3 pilot dies in anime |
| 18:15.49 | TMc51 | wait |
| 18:15.58 | TMc51 | wasnt 3 the one shinji crushes? |
| 18:16.03 | TMc51 | or was that 4? >.< |
| 18:16.16 | Arrowmaster | yes, although it was the dummy plug that curshed it |
| 18:16.22 | TMc51 | true |
| 18:17.09 | TMc51 | Any news on when Evangelion: 3.0 releases? |
| 18:17.16 | foxlit | Just me or do pets take a horrible amount of time to drop combat? |
| 18:17.47 | Arrowmaster | TMc51: no clue but i probably wont see it until 3.33 |
| 18:18.07 | TMc51 | I'll catch both like I did with the first two. |
| 18:18.27 | TMc51 | the first one just because i hate waiting, then the blu-ray release to see it in hd goodness. |
| 18:19.14 | Arrowmaster | some idiot named the US bluray release for 2.22 as just 2 on the box |
| 18:19.31 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> Just me or do pets take a horrible amount of time to drop combat? <- im convinced it's bugged to all hell |
| 18:19.51 | foxlit | The Assist stance is also weird |
| 18:20.19 | foxlit | I'm convinced that at least some of the time, fluffy is plotting to overthrow its master by pulling the whole instance |
| 18:20.48 | TMc51 | foxlit: working as intended |
| 18:20.55 | Dagmar | I thought they pretty much burned all their bridges with that final concept-art-and-cutting-floor-monologue episode |
| 18:21.01 | karl_w_w | your pet should be on passive in pve |
| 18:21.19 | foxlit | I don't want to have to macro /petattack to some ability |
| 18:21.22 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Generally speaking no |
| 18:21.26 | karl_w_w | anything else is begging for cc breakage at the minimum |
| 18:21.30 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 18:21.34 | TMc51 | Dagmar: They had their budget cut so much they had no more money to animate a full episode by that last one. lol |
| 18:21.35 | foxlit | Pets don't break CC |
| 18:21.40 | foxlit | my multi-shot breaks CC. |
| 18:21.45 | Dagmar | Someting has to be actively attacking you for the pet to get interested and they don't break CC |
| 18:21.50 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:21.53 | Dagmar | Ice cube pops up, pet backs off |
| 18:22.03 | foxlit | kind of annoying, actually |
| 18:22.08 | karl_w_w | most of the time |
| 18:22.14 | foxlit | As survival, I sometimes trap things to get LnL to proc |
| 18:22.20 | Dagmar | TMc51: I heard they spent it all on hookers and blow |
| 18:22.29 | TMc51 | Who doesn't? |
| 18:22.33 | karl_w_w | if i dont have my pet passive it breaks cc constantly |
| 18:22.34 | Dagmar | Good piint |
| 18:22.46 | foxlit | would appreciate it if fluffy just stood by the cube rather than run back to me |
| 18:23.01 | foxlit | karl_w_w: your pet has an aoe ability? |
| 18:23.01 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Something's messed up there. It really should never break CC, or if it does only *rarely* as a race condition |
| 18:23.30 | karl_w_w | water elemental foxlit |
| 18:23.35 | Dagmar | Having the pet on passive means you blow a mouseclick sending them back in, and it means there's a very serious risk of Tab Targeting O' Fun and failwipes |
| 18:23.45 | Mikk | blow a what |
| 18:23.46 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> would appreciate it if fluffy just stood by the cube rather than run back to me <- macro /petstay |
| 18:23.47 | Mikk | shift+t |
| 18:23.52 | Mikk | not on gcd |
| 18:24.01 | Dagmar | If you just spank out a multishot to get everything a little pissed at you, you can generally nor stress out about the pet |
| 18:24.21 | foxlit | karl_w_w: then I'd have to tell it to attack again? |
| 18:24.27 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 18:24.41 | Dagmar | Mikk: I don't have unlimited fingers or buttons |
| 18:24.51 | foxlit | That isn't desirable |
| 18:24.56 | karl_w_w | no |
| 18:25.09 | karl_w_w | thats why you need to macro /petattack into things |
| 18:25.28 | Dagmar | Although it's not like assist mode isn't a little knackered lately |
| 18:25.30 | karl_w_w | and once you've done that it makes no difference what setting it's in |
| 18:25.39 | Dagmar | Either that or someone's been feeding my wolf marijuana |
| 18:26.08 | foxlit | karl_w_w: that solution doesn't appeal to me |
| 18:26.10 | Dagmar | He just bloody *stands there next to me* through the first half of a trash pull |
| 18:26.25 | karl_w_w | nothing is particularly appealing about it, no |
| 18:26.26 | Dagmar | ...but at least once he's moving he stays on the job. |
| 18:26.38 | Dagmar | Having the pet run back to you is sub-optimal |
| 18:26.48 | karl_w_w | lock and hunter pets are damn op in BGs though |
| 18:27.00 | Dagmar | That and there's times when it's a multi-pull that I'll assist my pet because he is faster than the tank |
| 18:27.00 | foxlit | In part because if I macro /petattack into everything, the rare times I want the pet to attack a specific mob are going to suck. |
| 18:27.29 | Dagmar | foxlit: I've got Hunter's Mark and /petattack on the same macro |
| 18:27.50 | foxlit | I've got Hunter's Mark in a place where sun doesn't shine, so I only dig it out on bosses. |
| 18:27.55 | karl_w_w | hunter's mark isn't on gcd? |
| 18:28.31 | Dagmar | ...but just the same it's happier when the pet just has a list of asses to kick |
| 18:28.57 | karl_w_w | its a tough thing for blizz |
| 18:29.45 | karl_w_w | first they have to figure out what they think will please the most people, then they have to figure out how to code it to work like that in all situations |
| 18:29.58 | karl_w_w | theoretically |
| 18:30.12 | foxlit | Going by the patch notes, Assist should be what I want |
| 18:30.30 | Dagmar | I miss "Rabid Gorilla Mode" |
| 18:30.44 | foxlit | I think it's a good thing that's gone |
| 18:30.57 | Dagmar | It *was* making "Defend The Dwarf" a bit easy-mode |
| 18:31.10 | Dagmar | sets /petaggressive |
| 18:31.12 | Dagmar | takes a nap |
| 18:31.17 | foxlit | Plus you could adequately grief people with that tactic |
| 18:31.35 | Dagmar | Nah you haven't been able to do that in years |
| 18:31.42 | Dagmar | ...although damn those snake traps were fun |
| 18:32.11 | karl_w_w | what was that mmo that went free to play recently? |
| 18:32.22 | foxlit | Hm? Go to some low-level questing area, set pet on aggressive, laugh diabolically as it wipes out all the quest mobs? |
| 18:32.29 | Dagmar | I had sooo much fun outside belftown killing those dragonhawks for their christmas eggs, and then dropping snake traps into their corpses |
| 18:32.51 | karl_w_w | oh thats right, age of conan |
| 18:32.55 | Dagmar | foxlit: Generally by the time the pet can do it for you, you can just as easily one-shot the mobs |
| 18:33.13 | foxlit | Dagmar: the difference being that you don't have to be at the keyboard while your pet does it :) |
| 18:33.19 | Dagmar | Noobcake Elf would come along and go "Hey free skinning" and the moment something respawns, yellow or not, *SNAKES* |
| 18:33.27 | karl_w_w | if you dont you dont get kill credit, foxlit |
| 18:33.47 | foxlit | karl_w_w: getting the kill credit isn't the point |
| 18:33.53 | foxlit | wiping out quest mobs is. |
| 18:34.09 | Dagmar | THere's plenty of asshattery in the game |
| 18:34.24 | foxlit | No reason to make it easier :0 |
| 18:34.31 | karl_w_w | <foxlit> wiping out quest mobs is. <- that's not the point, that's the thing that needs a point |
| 18:35.19 | foxlit | karl_w_w: just general griefing |
| 18:35.48 | foxlit | There are plenty of people who engage in PvP with obscene level differences, for instance. |
| 18:37.41 | karl_w_w | still dont see a point :P |
| 18:38.12 | Dagmar | If they didnt' want to have a firm "do nothing" stance about it, they'd put impassible hitboxes on the goddamn holiday NPCs |
| 18:38.40 | Dagmar | MOst people don't even have a clue who does the keg tapping at Brewfest because it's a non-stop pile of assholes |
| 18:38.57 | foxlit | grrr, 17 more leatherworking points to thick leather |
| 18:39.21 | Dagmar | foxlit: Shouldnt' you be in wetlands or something? |
| 18:39.41 | foxlit | Dagmar: wetlands is pretty low-level. Why? |
| 18:39.51 | Dagmar | I vaguely remember skinning a buncha raptors for the leather at that level |
| 18:39.55 | Dagmar | Maybe it was in STV |
| 18:40.13 | foxlit | STV is more likely |
| 18:40.18 | foxlit | Needs something like 35 |
| 18:40.46 | foxlit | EPL in my case |
| 18:40.56 | foxlit | that's, hm, 17*6 heavy leather |
| 18:41.19 | Lopeppeppy | STV is heaven for leatherworkers, all the quests along the river, hunting for profit. :) |
| 18:41.26 | foxlit | 102 bears if I'm obscenely lucky. |
| 18:41.43 | Dagmar | You'd probably find the hunting easier in STV |
| 18:41.45 | alestane | Heavy Leather LW bites. |
| 18:42.03 | Dagmar | I should check to make sure they didn't nerf mah snakes |
| 18:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | I think I had good luck with the turtles around... um... Theramore was it? |
| 18:42.38 | foxlit | I *think* STV is too low-level -- Medium or something |
| 18:42.48 | Dagmar | Yeah but you can wipe them out faster than they spawn and it's a narrow strip to run up and down |
| 18:43.00 | alestane | Southern STV should be good. |
| 18:43.06 | foxlit | So do the bears |
| 18:43.24 | Dagmar | The instanced version of south STV they put in two patch days ago had 1 savage leather per snake |
| 18:43.28 | Dagmar | I ain't turning that quest in |
| 18:43.52 | foxlit | Why don't you skin Tol'Barad like all the normal people? :) |
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| 18:45.10 | Dagmar | Because there's a lot more snakes and since it's instanced you have the place to yourself |
| 18:45.41 | foxlit | There's a lot of spiders and people usually kill them for you :) |
| 18:45.53 | Dagmar | Yeah but that's only every few hours |
| 18:46.07 | karl_w_w | <Lopeppeppy> STV is heaven for leatherworkers, all the quests along the river, hunting for profit. :) <- solo violet hold, seriously |
| 18:46.21 | foxlit | The spiders are there all day, though :) |
| 18:46.27 | Dagmar | I've been meaning to try that with VH heh |
| 18:46.30 | Kraps | publisher packs are still on sale |
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| 18:46.48 | foxlit | Kraps: are any of them interesting? |
| 18:46.54 | karl_w_w | wotlk leather is significantly more valuable than cata on my realm |
| 18:47.22 | Kraps | Paradox has 80 games |
| 18:47.29 | foxlit | northrend is deserted on my realm |
| 18:47.40 | karl_w_w | <bluspacecow> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell <- lolz indeed |
| 18:47.57 | Dagmar | I bought *enough* games this week already |
| 18:47.59 | Lopeppeppy | I work in that comic strip. *sigh* |
| 18:48.27 | karl_w_w | one amusing part of it |
| 18:48.51 | karl_w_w | is how similar the "abomination" at the end is to the oatmeal's design |
| 18:48.53 | foxlit | also, disengage should work out of combat |
| 18:49.18 | Dagmar | foxlit: while I like your idea and would subscribe to your newsletter, I know that would be *trouble* |
| 18:49.46 | foxlit | Isn't it already trouble, just slightly more inconvenient trouble? |
| 18:50.01 | Dagmar | I half suspect the change to CC no longer generating aggro was to keep me from abusing critter pulls to bounce to places I shouldn't be able to get to |
| 18:50.35 | foxlit | can you get into cata heroics without a group? |
| 18:50.45 | karl_w_w | think so |
| 18:50.47 | Dagmar | If you walk in there yourself, sure |
| 18:51.06 | Dagmar | So long as you're a group of one. |
| 18:51.52 | Thunder_Child | http://breadfish.co.uk/ |
| 18:52.06 | foxlit | I wonder if ZG trash is soloable |
| 18:52.47 | karl_w_w | depends on your class |
| 18:53.04 | karl_w_w | dk/pally, yes |
| 18:54.02 | karl_w_w | TC, are breadfish tasty? |
| 18:55.56 | Kraps | BEST IMAGE EVER http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/chatroulette-trolling-found-him.jpg |
| 18:56.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 18:56.19 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:56.22 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! |
| 18:56.29 | Shirik | Fidelity officially makes no sense |
| 18:56.47 | Lunessa | hi hi Lopeppeppy! |
| 18:57.33 | Shirik | Their normal commission for stock trades is $7.95, but an account I have was originally a best buy employee benefit, so sales/purchases of BBY is $19.95... except over their phone service where it's normally $12.95... and doesn't change for BBY stock either |
| 18:58.16 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: i'd assume so. though wet bread is usually not that enjoyable. |
| 18:58.25 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Maundy, Lunessa. |
| 18:58.43 | Lunessa | Moanday is rarely a happy event. |
| 18:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | Moaning doesn't make you happy? |
| 19:00.02 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://pastebin.com || 4.2.x ToC: 40200 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Moaning doesn't make you happy? - Lopeppeppy |
| 19:00.20 | TMc51 | Thunder_Child: Depends on what it's wet with. Bread soaked in gravy is about as good as it gets. |
| 19:00.29 | karl_w_w | disagree |
| 19:00.36 | TMc51 | HEATHEN! |
| 19:00.37 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 19:00.46 | Thunder_Child | i agree with karl_w_w |
| 19:01.03 | TMc51 | it's inhuman not to love gravybread. |
| 19:01.17 | karl_w_w | it's actually impossible for anything to be as good as it gets when no bacon is involved |
| 19:01.24 | foxlit | What's this? A bunch of unskinnable bear corpses, and a death gate? REVENGE ON ALL DEATH KNIGHTS! |
| 19:01.31 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:01.36 | Thunder_Child | in this channel i assumed it was bacon gravy |
| 19:01.38 | TMc51 | You do have a point. |
| 19:01.46 | TMc51 | bread soaked in bacon grease. mmm mmm mmm |
| 19:01.51 | karl_w_w | *actual* bacon |
| 19:01.59 | karl_w_w | not something flavored by bacon |
| 19:02.15 | TMc51 | bacon wrapped bread soaked in bacon grease? |
| 19:02.29 | Shirik | why bread |
| 19:02.30 | TMc51 | with canadian bacon sandwiched between it? |
| 19:02.32 | Shirik | make your bread out of bacon |
| 19:04.00 | TMc51 | Sooo, I'm in the market for a laptop, what with the semester starting mid next month. Anybody recommend Gateway? |
| 19:04.16 | foxlit | TMc51: what kind of laptop? |
| 19:04.24 | Parnic | Gateway still makes computers? |
| 19:04.24 | TMc51 | http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-NV75S02u-17-3-Inch-Laptop-Ebony/dp/B0051OLCTS <- what I'm currently looking at. Seems to be largest screen and most powerful laptop out there in the price range. |
| 19:04.36 | foxlit | 17, ew |
| 19:04.49 | foxlit | Seriously reconsider your options regarding screen size. |
| 19:04.50 | jnwhiteh | why woul dyou buy a large laptop |
| 19:04.52 | TMc51 | Everything else at that pricepoint, and below is 15.6" |
| 19:04.56 | jnwhiteh | get a desktop, or a reasonably sized laptop |
| 19:05.07 | Shirik | ^ |
| 19:05.11 | Parnic | thirded ^ |
| 19:05.11 | Thunder_Child | depends if a warranty is important to you or not |
| 19:05.15 | foxlit | Get a desktop and a reasonably sized laptop |
| 19:05.25 | jnwhiteh | I recommend the new HP 11" netbook |
| 19:05.29 | jnwhiteh | and any desktop that doesn't suck =) |
| 19:05.30 | Parnic | you're going to hate yourself for having a 17" brick of a laptop :P |
| 19:05.39 | foxlit | Macbook Airs look awesome, btw |
| 19:05.40 | jnwhiteh | you'll regret getting a 17" and even a 15.6 is huge right now |
| 19:05.46 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: they're such amazing machines |
| 19:05.48 | Parnic | 7.3lbs gets real heavy real fast |
| 19:05.49 | TMc51 | jnwhiteh: Why buy a miniscule laptop if you can't see that well on a small screen? |
| 19:05.53 | jnwhiteh | you can |
| 19:05.55 | foxlit | See what they'll update with during this month |
| 19:06.04 | jnwhiteh | laptops are for sitting on your lap, thus travel |
| 19:06.07 | foxlit | Basically, 17 inch laptops are bricks |
| 19:06.12 | jnwhiteh | a 3kg 17" monstrosity is bad |
| 19:06.14 | mikma | jnwhiteh: meh, eee <3 |
| 19:06.20 | foxlit | I pity the people who have to carry them around. |
| 19:06.22 | Thunder_Child | i have a 15 MBP and it's perfectly fine |
| 19:06.30 | Thunder_Child | for seeing |
| 19:06.30 | jnwhiteh | my 15 is too huge |
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| 19:06.35 | mikma | haha |
| 19:06.37 | foxlit | I have a 15 MBP, and I'm fondly looking at 13 MBAs |
| 19:06.38 | jnwhiteh | the 11s and 13s are great, actually |
| 19:06.39 | mikma | topic! |
| 19:06.40 | jnwhiteh | 13 is amazing. |
| 19:06.43 | jnwhiteh | srsly. |
| 19:06.48 | jnwhiteh | okay, makign fajitas |
| 19:06.59 | mikma | cairenn|afk: /topic 22:06 <@jnwhiteh> my 15 is too huge |
| 19:07.26 | Parnic | TMc51: http://gizmodo.com/5819998/the-best-back-to-school-laptops/ |
| 19:07.42 | TMc51 | I've got pretty bad eyes, and need to scale text and everything up quite a bit, which rules out the smaller ones. |
| 19:07.59 | TMc51 | Parnic: I looked through the list earlier. |
| 19:11.26 | Kraps | all the publisher packs come out to $734.86 |
| 19:12.40 | mikma | I <3 my Asus Eee PC 1015PEM |
| 19:12.59 | foxlit | TMc51: out of interest, what do you use a laptop for during semesters? |
| 19:13.04 | Dagmar | If you buy that Visa's anti-fraud measures will kick in so someone will be calling you on the phone within the hour to tell you to get off your ass and out of the house for a change. |
| 19:14.05 | foxlit | [any particular applications?] |
| 19:14.06 | TMc51 | foxlit: No clue at this point. Was just told I'd be needing one. The Gateway I linked fits my needs with a larger screen, and is about as powerful as my desktop is. Might even become my main rig since it's more portable than a 60lb steel box. |
| 19:14.40 | Dagmar | Hey man, Gateway is serious about security |
| 19:14.40 | foxlit | My experience is that computing power is largely irrelevant |
| 19:14.58 | Dagmar | They make 'em like that so if a firefight breaks out you can seek cover behind the tower |
| 19:15.15 | TMc51 | lol |
| 19:15.22 | foxlit | Main uses come out to browsing the web during lectures and writing reports in what is essentially notepad. |
| 19:15.56 | Kraps | "On October 10, 2010, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic was aired as part of the debut of the new television network, The Hub, which ended up replacing Discovery Kids. On October 19, 2010, Cartoon Brew wrote an article about the show entitled, The End of the Creator-Driven Era in TV Animation, which had an oddly alarmist tone to it. Threads on 4chanâs comic and cartoon board, /co/,... |
| 19:15.57 | Kraps | ...attacked and made fun of the article for this reason. The article and the threads generated /co/âs initial interest in the show, causing several members to go and watch the first episode" |
| 19:16.10 | TMc51 | I'm not worried about speed too much though, it's mostly the screen size, since I tend to have to scale everything up a bit to see properly. |
| 19:16.13 | foxlit | The stat that really matters is battery life. |
| 19:16.20 | Dagmar | Kraps; And now they have a REAL problem |
| 19:16.37 | TMc51 | the Fusion APUs have better battery life than Intel's i#s and I5s out there, so it's set in that department. |
| 19:16.39 | Kraps | why? |
| 19:16.57 | Dagmar | Kraps: because now a substantial portion of their viewers are 4channers |
| 19:17.32 | Dagmar | There's no telling what acts of depravity market research will soon decide what My Little Pony will need to go into |
| 19:17.42 | Kraps | hey, viewers are viewers :p |
| 19:17.49 | Dagmar | THink of that Oatmeal article about why people should eat horses, not ride them |
| 19:18.01 | Dagmar | ...and then combine that and 4channers |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | one great bear genocide later, I might have enough leather |
| 19:20.14 | Kraps | idk, the things ive seen are actually very pro-MLP |
| 19:20.29 | Dagmar | I'm sure they wil be |
| 19:20.45 | Dagmar | Even the script for the MLP: My Not-So-Little Pony |
| 19:22.06 | Kraps | at least the memes ive seen are about the badassery of the ponies |
| 19:22.23 | Lopeppeppy | Care Bear Stare! |
| 19:22.57 | Dagmar | 1,000-yard stare |
| 19:23.29 | Lopeppeppy | 3 Mile Island. |
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| 19:25.02 | Kraps | and check youtube for ponyception, ponycraft, 300 ponies, etc |
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| 19:26.23 | Kraps | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg |
| 19:28.06 | kd3 | wtf stanford |
| 19:28.19 | kd3 | on /.: Stanford CS101 Adopts JavaScript |
| 19:29.36 | jnwhiteh | kd3: fucked. |
| 19:29.40 | foxlit | meh, why the heck not |
| 19:29.50 | Lopeppeppy | I am... oh my god not commenting... |
| 19:30.04 | foxlit | CS101 is loops and recursion. Can do those in javascript just as well |
| 19:30.07 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you'd better be watching me be REALLY good and innocent right here and now! |
| 19:30.59 | Lunessa | It's been all I can do not to make pony jokes... |
| 19:31.16 | Lopeppeppy | EXACTLY! |
| 19:31.51 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. You helped me be bad. |
| 19:33.00 | kd3 | also. damn it reddit, now I'm going to fire up dosbox so I can play super solvers for the first time in ~20 years now |
| 19:33.05 | kd3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/imhdh/in_elementary_school_this_is_what_going_to_the/ |
| 19:33.47 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 19:33.48 | kd3 | s/years now/years/ |
| 19:33.51 | Fisker | new song from rebecca black |
| 19:33.56 | Fisker | i hope it's saturday saturday etc. |
| 19:34.02 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:34.03 | Fisker | u love me? |
| 19:34.20 | kd3 | sure, fisker. if you say so |
| 19:34.43 | Fisker | nice |
| 19:36.41 | Lopeppeppy | Cool toys! http://www.cocooninnovations.com/cat_info.php?cat_id=61 |
| 19:36.48 | Kraps | would like to hear some pony jokes |
| 19:37.00 | foxlit | Hm, and now to massacre dragonkin, apparently |
| 19:37.36 | foxlit | or turtles. Are turtle scales a pain? |
| 19:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | ... no. I think you don't know the kind of things Lunessa and I were not talking about. :) |
| 19:39.41 | Lopeppeppy | Turtle scales are down by Theramore, I never found them hard to get. |
| 19:40.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure other turtles have them too, that's the level my leatherworker was at. |
| 19:40.41 | Lunessa | foxlit: what are you trying to make? |
| 19:40.57 | foxlit | Lunessa: nothing in particular. Just levelling leatherworking |
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| 19:41.20 | Lunessa | 500+ sucks. |
| 19:41.29 | foxlit | At 230 at the moment |
| 19:42.02 | TMc51 | When you say 500+ sucks, just how bad is it? D: |
| 19:42.13 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 19:42.15 | Adys | Torhal: ping |
| 19:43.04 | foxlit | looks like the solution is to just throw thick leather at it |
| 19:43.12 | foxlit | The turtle scales seem pointless |
| 19:43.56 | Fisker | i love you foxlit |
| 19:44.02 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:44.13 | Lunessa | TMc51: Unless I want to spend about 2 full days farming leather, dragon scales and volatiles, it suck more than a Hoover. |
| 19:44.26 | Lopeppeppy | Lunch. |
| 19:44.37 | foxlit | volatiles especially are problematic |
| 19:44.46 | foxlit | though I guess I can farm them on the AH |
| 19:45.11 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/funny-graphs-scifi-future.jpg |
| 19:45.12 | Lunessa | Skinners actually have some of the best access to Air since the bloated stomachs were added. |
| 19:45.53 | foxlit | when does the dreamcloth timer reset? |
| 19:46.09 | Lunessa | 7 days. |
| 19:46.19 | Lunessa | Usually at midnight |
| 19:46.37 | foxlit | It's not locked to, like, a raid reset? |
| 19:46.49 | Lunessa | Nope. |
| 19:47.00 | foxlit | disappointing |
| 19:47.20 | Lopeppeppy | Why would it be, foxlit? |
| 19:47.38 | Lunessa | Yeah, I tried to cheese it that way, but it didn't work. |
| 19:47.41 | foxlit | means you ideally have to do it at the same time each week |
| 19:48.02 | foxlit | If it reset, say, every tuesday, you could pick any day during the week. |
| 19:48.20 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. Old fashioned crafting timer. |
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| 19:50.00 | Fisker | why do you eat my trout Lopeppeppy ? |
| 19:50.36 | Lopeppeppy | Do not taunt Hungry-Peppy. Now you have to go fish up some more trouts. Or not hit me with them. |
| 19:54.27 | foxlit | There's just one consolation prize: should totally be able to skin deathwing with 540 skill. |
| 19:54.49 | Lunessa | If Happy Fun Lopeppeppy begins to smoke, seek shelter immediately. Run away, cover head with arms. |
| 19:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | I used to love skinning Onyxia. |
| 19:55.18 | alestane | foxlit, that requires that you have a dead Deathwing available. |
| 19:56.30 | foxlit | alestane: to the forums! |
| 19:57.07 | foxlit | If alexstrasza decides to torch him, clearly the solution is to get rid of her first |
| 19:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | .... No. |
| 19:58.59 | Lopeppeppy | Red dragons are good. |
| 19:59.17 | foxlit | Not if they get in the way of skinning. |
| 19:59.46 | Lopeppeppy | Well, yeah, I guess if they're already dead and corpsified and gross. |
| 20:02.52 | Lopeppeppy | by having Dreamweaver open and ready, I have guaranteed that I will not be sent the materials I need to upload using Dreamweaver. |
| 20:07.28 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 20:07.35 | Fisker | why would you use dreamweaver? |
| 20:08.05 | Fisker | skinning a deathwing should aggro every deathwings btw |
| 20:08.57 | Kraps | well the first episode of MLP was gripping |
| 20:09.32 | Lopeppeppy | I don't normally, Fisker. I'm doing repair work on a very old clunker of a web site. |
| 20:09.57 | Jamash | today, ponies stop being sent to the farm |
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| 20:10.22 | Fisker | i once ponied a farm |
| 20:10.24 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 20:10.27 | Fisker | not so hey Jamash |
| 20:15.37 | foxlit | 140 more thick leather |
| 20:15.37 | Jamash | TINTYPE MOLLY: MIRACLE DAY |
| 20:15.38 | foxlit | PAIN. |
| 20:15.42 | foxlit | SUFFERING. |
| 20:16.00 | SuperMoo | I'm bad at info. but GetLFGDungeonInfo(id) any way i can retrive the current instance id that I'm in? cant seem to find that |
| 20:16.05 | Jamash | my hemorrhoids burn through the cavernous deeps |
| 20:16.17 | Jamash | maybe that's deathwing's problem |
| 20:17.22 | Lunessa | Jamash: You're saying all this mess could have been avoided with a super-sized tube of Preparation H? |
| 20:17.28 | Jamash | yeah |
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| 20:17.51 | Jamash | "why does it burn when I exist?" |
| 20:18.28 | Lunessa | Because you let Ragnaros ride bareback? |
| 20:18.42 | Jamash | I thought it was more the other way around with DW and raggy |
| 20:22.35 | Jamash | SuperMoo: try GetLFGProposal, might not work after you enter the dungeon though |
| 20:23.43 | Kraps | https://plus.google.com/110286587261352351537/posts/Pv6Lig99LtH |
| 20:24.08 | Jamash | "Pixels" already did it, the enb |
| 20:24.28 | SuperMoo | i need the info while I'm in the instance. or dungeon |
| 20:24.53 | SuperMoo | if i can just get the current zone's Dungeonid.. it's all good |
| 20:26.56 | Kraps | whats with the female Links, and why are they always hot? http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/07/zeldagirl.jpg |
| 20:27.22 | Jamash | 1. women like to cosplay more than men do for various reasons 2. elves are hot |
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| 20:29.44 | Jamash | http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7453/hotelfchicksdemotivatio.jpg I rest my case |
| 20:29.56 | SuperMoo | i'm scared of going through the whole list and making adjustments in a custon 150 if then else statement lol |
| 20:31.25 | kd3 | whee; just crossed the 40k mile mark in my '06 |
| 20:31.50 | Kraps | Jamash: hey isnt that what Cairenn uses in her mmoui profile pic? |
| 20:31.56 | Jamash | could be |
| 20:32.05 | kd3 | yes, yes it is |
| 20:32.09 | kd3 | has a signed print of that somewhere |
| 20:32.28 | Kraps | wheres it from? |
| 20:32.38 | kd3 | the print? cairenn handed them out a few blizzcons ago |
| 20:34.33 | Thunder_Child | it was 3 or 4 years ago i think |
| 20:34.43 | kd3 | the '07 one? |
| 20:35.29 | Thunder_Child | or 8, those were the only ones i stayed around for |
| 20:35.48 | Kraps | whats the source of the picture? |
| 20:36.08 | kd3 | I'd ask cairenn, but she's not here to defend herself |
| 20:36.19 | Thunder_Child | you could try tineye, it might help |
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| 20:37.51 | SuperMoo | magister's terrace is an instance right? |
| 20:38.01 | alestane | Oy, I've asked her who the artist is like three times. I have it somewhere. |
| 20:38.13 | kd3 | yes, super |
| 20:38.54 | alestane | Kraps, it |
| 20:39.30 | alestane | it's Reisha the Elf, by Raffaele Marinetti. Source: http://rafm.deviantart.com/art/Reisha-The-Elf-48633019 |
| 20:45.18 | Fisker | btw Parnic |
| 20:45.20 | Fisker | (dick) |
| 20:45.25 | Parnic | wat |
| 20:45.27 | Fisker | Sponsor will select one hundred (100) winners by random drawing from all valid entries by July 12, 2011. |
| 20:45.27 | Fisker | Sponsor will contact each winner via email to the address registered to the winning Steam account. |
| 20:45.41 | Parnic | tomorrow? lame. |
| 20:46.01 | Jamash | yeah how dare they check for ticket fraud before awarding prizes |
| 20:46.44 | Kraps | this is Fisker we're talking about |
| 20:47.27 | Fisker | "ticket fraud" |
| 20:47.28 | Fisker | hoho |
| 20:47.42 | Kraps | uscaredbro? |
| 20:48.05 | Pup | does anyone know how to check whether a buff on a friendly unit is castable by this player? seeing as UnitAura() appears to be broken? |
| 20:48.21 | Fisker | technically yes Kraps |
| 20:48.29 | Fisker | "cheated" because an achievement was bugged |
| 20:48.34 | Fisker | didn't wait until they fixed it |
| 20:48.44 | Fisker | gonna get disqualified like a boss |
| 20:48.46 | Fisker | but not care |
| 20:48.58 | Kraps | thats the spirit |
| 20:50.01 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5819770/glitchers-brought-in-to-test-modern-warfare-3-multiplayer |
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| 20:57.29 | Fisker | why would anyone care Kraps ? |
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| 21:43.02 | karl_w_w | 22 minutes in queue now |
| 21:43.07 | karl_w_w | for wsg |
| 21:43.10 | karl_w_w | the call to arms |
| 21:43.13 | karl_w_w | as alliance |
| 21:43.20 | karl_w_w | what is the world coming to |
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| 21:43.36 | SuperMoo | lol |
| 21:43.48 | SuperMoo | try normal hc... 40 min atm |
| 21:43.58 | karl_w_w | L2guild :P |
| 21:44.08 | SuperMoo | hehe |
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| 21:53.25 | Kraps | Fisker: its MW3. everyone cares. |
| 21:55.56 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: yes, but now it requires Origin |
| 21:56.39 | Kraps | apparently Origin is just a store, not a steam-like service |
| 21:56.44 | Kraps | or so i read |
| 21:56.57 | Thunder_Child | has friends and overlays and whatnot |
| 21:57.04 | Thunder_Child | and it's all download |
| 21:57.06 | Thunder_Child | for pc |
| 22:00.43 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/funny-graphs-stereotypes.jpg |
| 22:06.09 | karl_w_w | that's more a map of the world according to americans than it is a map of useless stereotypes |
| 22:10.55 | Jamash | yarrrrrrrrr |
| 22:11.02 | Jamash | I be the dread pirate moonbeard |
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| 22:33.43 | foxlit | Hm, dungeon finder. I clicked tank and I'm still not in a group as I type this |
| 22:34.18 | jnwhiteh | I assume karl_w_w isn't american |
| 22:34.44 | jnwhiteh | because the average american has absolutely no impression of most of those places on the map, let alone knowing they exist in the first place |
| 22:35.37 | jnwhiteh | even those in the states =) |
| 22:49.05 | Thunder_Child | hey, i represent that! |
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| 22:58.24 | Jamash | interesting, I didn't know there was such a thing as cubist anime |
| 22:59.36 | Fisker | lulz |
| 22:59.43 | Fisker | ads for the new 4.2 patch is going full retard |
| 22:59.50 | Fisker | "Pug-friendly raids" |
| 22:59.52 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 23:00.05 | Jamash | who where what? |
| 23:00.21 | Fisker | there are ads running for wow 4.2 |
| 23:00.24 | Fisker | atleast in denmark |
| 23:00.37 | Fisker | pug-friendly raids being listed as a feature |
| 23:00.42 | Fisker | which is lulz |
| 23:00.47 | Fisker | unless they mean old content |
| 23:00.49 | TMc51 | lol |
| 23:01.10 | Jamash | they've said as much |
| 23:01.14 | Fisker | and even then that would probably only be because of massively outgearing(and outbuffing) the content |
| 23:01.48 | Fisker | firelands might be pug-friendly in execution but not in skill |
| 23:02.33 | Fisker | ICC is a joke compared to Firelands and even BWD/BoT/TFW |
| 23:02.39 | Jamash | what's the difference between execution and skill? |
| 23:04.00 | Fisker | What i mean is that the raids themselves are relatively easy as long as you got people with the personal skill to actually react to the encounter |
| 23:04.09 | Fisker | problem with pugs is that you don't have personal skill |
| 23:04.17 | Fisker | which worked pretty well for ICC normals |
| 23:04.29 | Fisker | not so much even for firelands normals |
| 23:06.15 | batrick | people still care about raiding? |
| 23:06.34 | Fisker | only thing that makes WoW worth playing batrick |
| 23:06.45 | Fisker | anyone thinking otherwise is obviously mentally ill |
| 23:07.58 | batrick | i guess |
| 23:08.23 | batrick | ever since sc2 ive had 0 desire to return to wow |
| 23:08.28 | Jamash | man I hate software that says "Download the newest version! We fixed stuff! No, you can't see the release notes!" |
| 23:08.50 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 23:09.00 | Fisker | i'm about to reach my maximum capacity for WoW as well :P |
| 23:09.09 | Fisker | did temporarily max it during 4.1 or so |
| 23:09.19 | Fisker | or just when it hit |
| 23:09.20 | Fisker | i think |
| 23:09.33 | Fisker | But there's always Titan |
| 23:09.49 | Fisker | They need to incorporate some of their D3 stuff btw |
| 23:10.37 | batrick | i got to 85, found it was exactly the same as bc grind |
| 23:10.39 | batrick | and quit |
| 23:10.58 | batrick | battlegrounds were terrible too |
| 23:11.06 | Fisker | pvp should just die :D |
| 23:11.08 | batrick | so the grind would be so much worse |
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| 23:12.34 | Jamash | I think most people agreed wrath was too easy, but cata is too difficult, and I think too easy is better because then at least people get to see the content |
| 23:13.05 | Jamash | as opposed to "oh god, no, make the hurting stop, /unsubscribe" |
| 23:13.20 | Jamash | which is what we have today |
| 23:13.22 | Fisker | I actually like the new encounters |
| 23:13.32 | Fisker | Ryolith and Alysrazor is fun fun fun |
| 23:13.36 | Fisker | (also friday friday) |
| 23:13.39 | Xyphoid | i like the difficulty, and i'm still struggling through heroic 5-mans |
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| 23:13.51 | Jamash | I think the difficulty is poop |
| 23:14.01 | Jamash | I haven't run a dungeon in... I can't remember |
| 23:14.13 | Jamash | it's just too much like work |
| 23:14.26 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 23:14.36 | Fisker | i reall think they should've stuck to the WotLK way there |
| 23:14.43 | Fisker | really* |
| 23:14.45 | Jamash | I haven't seen the inside of either of the 4.1 dungeons |
| 23:14.54 | Fisker | done them twice |
| 23:15.00 | Fisker | once when 4.1 was released |
| 23:15.03 | Jamash | did the intro quests, said "meh" and went back to doing dailies |
| 23:15.04 | Fisker | then again when 4.2 was released |
| 23:15.06 | Fisker | got myself a bear |
| 23:15.07 | Fisker | bam |
| 23:15.11 | Xyphoid | my main issue with the game is the gear is boring i think |
| 23:15.12 | Jamash | I do want a bear |
| 23:15.34 | Fisker | Yeah Xyphoid |
| 23:15.39 | Jamash | on the other hand I could play one of the other ten games on my plate that don't hate me |
| 23:15.40 | Fisker | do want something á la Diablo 3 |
| 23:15.45 | Fisker | where you have a town you level :3 |
| 23:15.51 | Xyphoid | i kind of liked looking at the quest rewards and drops and deciding what I wanted to use |
| 23:15.53 | Fisker | just translated to MMO's |
| 23:15.54 | Jamash | guild housing! |
| 23:15.59 | Jamash | GUILD TOWNS |
| 23:16.06 | Jamash | make it happen fisker |
| 23:16.12 | Fisker | i would |
| 23:16.14 | Fisker | if they hired me |
| 23:16.21 | Xyphoid | also average ilvl in the UI means gearscore has won |
| 23:16.29 | Jamash | go submit your resume to blizzard |
| 23:16.33 | Fisker | that way i could also afford more games on steam, get Blizzard games on Steam, and ???, then profit |
| 23:16.38 | Fisker | that's not how it works Jamash |
| 23:16.43 | Fisker | you bitch a lot about their game |
| 23:16.47 | Fisker | then you get hired |
| 23:16.57 | Fisker | or does it have to be another game you're bitching about? |
| 23:17.13 | Fisker | Because technically Tigole were bitching over EQ, and got hired by Blizzard |
| 23:17.21 | Fisker | so i need to bitch over SWTOR perhaps |
| 23:17.27 | Jamash | should be fairly easy |
| 23:17.51 | Jamash | ahem, cough, mhmm... "LOL, JEDI" |
| 23:18.22 | Fisker | i like how lightsabers actually don't function as lightsabers |
| 23:18.25 | Jamash | â/bow |
| 23:18.31 | Fisker | "Oh i just hit you with a lightsaber, but you're fine" |
| 23:18.39 | Jamash | any star wars game without dismemberment is not a star wars game |
| 23:18.41 | Fisker | "In the movie you would've been cut in half, but in the game, you're fine" |
| 23:19.04 | Xyphoid | which jedi knight game was the one with excellent multiplayer and dismemberment |
| 23:19.05 | Jamash | actually most of the time people hit with lightsabers in the movies just go "ow" and fall over |
| 23:19.09 | foxlit | I'm tanking a group with a druid, two hunters and a mage |
| 23:19.10 | Jamash | JKII |
| 23:19.22 | foxlit | Yet Halazzi's enrage stays up for the full duration |
| 23:19.24 | Fisker | I would rather have them spend time making parry animations than actually seeing a lightsaber hit connect and not do anything but slight damage |
| 23:19.27 | Jamash | it had the soldier of fortune dismemberment engine |
| 23:19.34 | Jamash | agreed Fisker |
| 23:20.31 | Jamash | I mean wow's combat animations are bad, but they're no worse than warcraft III |
| 23:20.51 | Jamash | whereas SWTOR has both JKII and the movies themselves as precedent |
| 23:21.03 | Jamash | which means its bad animations look even worse by contrast |
| 23:21.32 | Jamash | those ultra pro cgi trailers aren't doing them any favors either |
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| 23:50.39 | mistborn | is there a function to get the current number of items in a stack? |
| 23:59.17 | foxlit | mistborn: indubitably! |
