| 00:06.55 | Kraps | "Some amici who support respondents [people who sided with the gaming industry] foresee the day when "âvirtual reality shoot-âem-ups'" will allow children to " âactually feel the splatting blood from the blown-off head' " of a victim..." |
| 00:06.59 | Kraps | orly? |
| 00:09.52 | Adys | Kraps: here's a tip that comes from my years of experience in psychology |
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| 00:10.40 | Adys | Kraps: the harder and harsher someone is disgusted about activities becoming disgusting (eg. violence in video games increasing over time) |
| 00:10.54 | Adys | the more likely they are to be into serious kinds of repulsive porn |
| 00:11.44 | Kraps | can i facepalm? |
| 00:11.53 | Adys | No |
| 00:12.02 | Kraps | k |
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| 00:25.36 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/06/27/yee-vows-fight-despite-scotus-decision |
| 00:25.53 | TC-Laptop | if someone showed up to blizzcon with a costume that looked like a storefront and had advertisements for selling '3rd party wow tech support', or 'super duper macs for playing wow', would anyone get the joke? |
| 00:27.26 | Kraps | i dont |
| 00:27.56 | TC-Laptop | Vendor Trash |
| 00:28.02 | TC-Laptop | oh well |
| 00:31.52 | Wobin | TC-Laptop: that's a little ... obscure |
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| 00:38.34 | TC-Laptop | Wobin: Well dressing up like CDW would be even more obsucre |
| 00:38.38 | TC-Laptop | obscure* |
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| 01:18.48 | Mr_Rabies | still no preload |
| 01:18.51 | Mr_Rabies | this is gonna be bad |
| 01:19.09 | Mr_Rabies | tomorrow is gonna suck |
| 01:23.25 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.flickr.com/photos/egold/2155514904/ |
| 01:26.09 | Cairenn | awwwwwww |
| 01:26.16 | Cairenn | GORGEOUS eyes! |
| 01:27.44 | Wobin | Cairenn: I'd sit there all day, staring at the cat =) |
| 01:27.49 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 01:28.20 | Wobin | ok, network people. If I have two machines I want to connect between (A and B), can I restrict access to B to a specific port and -only- from A? Where in the network stack would this configuration occur? |
| 01:29.01 | A-KO | firewall |
| 01:29.04 | A-KO | layer 4 |
| 01:29.27 | A-KO | assuming port means TCP/UDP port, and not a physical port |
| 01:29.38 | A-KO | if physical port, you would use VLANs/ACLs (Layer 2/3) |
| 01:30.16 | Wobin | aye, tcp/udp port |
| 01:30.42 | A-KO | Windows firewall usually works, iptables in linux |
| 01:30.45 | Wobin | it'd be the firewall on B, right? |
| 01:30.51 | A-KO | yes |
| 01:30.53 | Wobin | rightio... |
| 01:31.07 | Wobin | Now I have to figure out who's responsible for that box =) |
| 01:31.14 | Wobin | thank you =) |
| 01:31.34 | TC-Laptop | Wobin: you would lose against that cat |
| 01:31.42 | A-KO | well, assuming you have network hardware separating them, it'd be your network guys :P |
| 01:31.42 | Wobin | TC-Laptop: I reckon =\ |
| 01:32.31 | TC-Laptop | A-KO: i doubt he is using a crossover |
| 01:32.34 | Wobin | A-KO: It's a bit weird. I can access B, internally via RDP, but have to go with a complex dongle mechanism with A |
| 01:32.56 | TC-Laptop | Wobin: there could be any number of reasons for that |
| 01:33.00 | A-KO | yeah |
| 01:33.16 | Wobin | yeah, so I have to investigate =) |
| 01:33.32 | A-KO | Wobin: good test, if you can telnet to 3389 on B from anywhere, your problem isn't firewall |
| 01:34.35 | TC-Laptop | you think thats bad, any time i uninstall software on this computer i am working on, it changes the resolution |
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| 02:01.10 | Shirik | Cide: If we raid tomorrow, it will not be firelands |
| 02:01.33 | Shirik | and I have made efforts to convince the GL that not raiding tomorrow (unless forced) is stupid |
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| 02:11.18 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 02:11.37 | bluspacecow | i was like "whats this grand F on wowi addon pages ?" |
| 02:11.42 | bluspacecow | = firelands lolz |
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| 02:11.49 | Kraps | It looks like your order's been shipped through UPS Ground , and we estimate that it will be delivered by Jun 28, 2011. I'm sorry there's no tracking available for this shipment. |
| 02:11.52 | Kraps | wwat |
| 02:15.19 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5816030/a-slew-of-assassins-from-sexy-to-cybernetic-re+imagined-for-assassins-creed-the-encyclopedia/gallery/1 |
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| 02:23.54 | Arrowmaster | need cosplay of that female assassin now |
| 02:24.11 | Kraps | sure you do |
| 02:24.53 | Kraps | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xTWZhu3BugQ |
| 02:25.06 | Arrowmaster | fishnets, garter belt, and a corset, its like the artist shares my fetishes |
| 02:25.38 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: common fetish. *wise nod* |
| 02:29.05 | Kraps | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/150298_700b.jpg |
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| 02:30.06 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: guys (and some girls) like looking at them, girls (and some guys) like wearing them |
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| 02:30.43 | Cairenn | It's very hard to /not/ feel sexy when dressed that way |
| 02:30.43 | Lunessa | And bless them, each and every one. |
| 02:31.36 | Iriel | ponders what inferences to make of those two lines in isolation |
| 02:31.57 | Cairenn | (10:24:24 PM) Arrowmaster: fishnets, garter belt, and a corset, its like the artist shares my fetishes |
| 02:31.58 | Cairenn | (10:24:56 PM) Lunessa: Arrowmaster: common fetish. *wise nod* |
| 02:31.58 | Cairenn | (10:29:24 PM) Cairenn: Arrowmaster: guys (and some girls) like looking at them, girls (and some guys) like wearing them |
| 02:32.06 | Wobin | ... she looks like she'd totally ... snap. in a breeze |
| 02:32.20 | Wobin | how does she kill? smothering? |
| 02:32.27 | Iriel | Seems like I was largely correct too, I must know you guys well enough 8-) |
| 02:32.33 | Cairenn | Iriel: hehehe |
| 02:32.59 | Kraps | Wobin: with those... tracts of land, its very possible |
| 02:33.14 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: for the starter of it all <Kraps> http://kotaku.com/5816030/a-slew-of-assassins-from-sexy-to-cybernetic-re+imagined-for-assassins-creed-the-encyclopedia/gallery/1 |
| 02:37.30 | kd3 | ok, wtf is this... sample question from a previous exam: |
| 02:37.32 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.41 | kd3 | had to resort to diffing the for DMX scripts to see the differences (outside of #1 versus the rest) |
| 02:39.15 | kd3 | s/for/four/ |
| 02:39.57 | Cairenn | bleargh, still no pre-dl |
| 02:40.16 | kd3 | (hint: only one of those is valid) |
| 02:40.16 | Cairenn | I wonder if something has delayed it going live |
| 02:40.46 | kd3 | pokes a dev or three |
| 02:48.57 | Kraps | youtubes subscription list sucks now |
| 02:52.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/25/new-full-lenght-captain-america-trailer-video/ |
| 02:52.09 | bluspacecow | lolz boob grab |
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| 02:58.30 | bluspacecow | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/24/hilarious-sometimes-wizards-dont-get-along-video/ |
| 02:59.42 | alestane | Apparently it's time to trot the shoes back out: http://www.pleaserusa.com/pic/delight-1028-b.jpg |
| 03:00.15 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:00.27 | Cairenn | @ blu's link |
| 03:01.10 | alestane | And http://www.pleaserusa.com/pic/delight-699.jpg |
| 03:02.54 | Cairenn | I like those ones better :p |
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| 03:03.38 | alestane | Those were the ones that started the convo back when. |
| 03:04.51 | Cairenn | heh, yup |
| 03:05.38 | alestane | Still my favorite comment from the whole incident: |
| 03:06.01 | alestane | 2008-03-11 21:00:49 Lunessa: No, |pez| you're just flushing out fetish freaks in here to flirt with - it's too easy - like dynamiting fish. |
| 03:06.30 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:06.55 | Lunessa | :D I do occasionally say something clever. :P |
| 03:07.15 | alestane | I sort of miss |pez|. |
| 03:12.01 | Kraps | link to old logs plox? |
| 03:12.15 | Seerah | alestane: me, too |
| 03:12.36 | alestane | ~logs |
| 03:12.37 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 03:12.45 | alestane | sec, it's the old name. |
| 03:12.48 | bluspacecow | http://tdwgeeks.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/c0a8633a-e397-432a-9bb4-b0cfd5f0e9b7.jpg |
| 03:13.13 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: heh |
| 03:13.32 | bluspacecow | also transforms into a meal! |
| 03:13.35 | alestane | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowi-lounge/20080312.html.gz, Kraps. |
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| 03:21.06 | Kraps | wonders when he joined for the first time |
| 03:23.19 | Wobin | still remembers when #wowace only had a few people in it |
| 03:23.30 | TC-Laptop | joined what Kraps? |
| 03:23.40 | Kraps | this channel |
| 03:23.40 | Wobin | I checked my history with WoW the other day =( |
| 03:23.42 | Cairenn | remembers when she was one of the founding members |
| 03:23.45 | Wobin | my god, it's been so long |
| 03:23.55 | Cairenn | (of #wowace) |
| 03:24.11 | Wobin | Cairenn: it was so peaceful, back then |
| 03:24.12 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: can you see when you registered your nick |
| 03:24.16 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 03:24.31 | Wobin | it'd be mostly haste, just logging in and out =P |
| 03:24.32 | Kraps | how |
| 03:24.38 | TC-Laptop | hey, you can only blame Guill for my presence here. |
| 03:25.03 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: no idea |
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| 03:26.27 | Cairenn | speaking of blast from the past |
| 03:26.31 | Cairenn | waves at schnoggo |
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| 03:28.09 | bluspacecow | @tekkub http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/06/22/lego-nyan-cat-is-annoyingly-awesome-video/ |
| 03:28.15 | TC-Laptop | you scared them Cairenn |
| 03:28.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:29.07 | bluspacecow | nyan cat would make good disco music imho |
| 03:29.24 | Arrowmaster | that video is awesome |
| 03:30.45 | Cairenn | Wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5-D0f6nHSQ&feature=related |
| 03:30.48 | Kraps | nyan cat is awesome |
| 03:32.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/sean-connerys-reply-apple-ad-apperance-offer/ |
| 03:32.34 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 03:32.44 | Wobin | Cairenn: NOM |
| 03:32.55 | Cairenn | nom? |
| 03:34.15 | Kraps | bluspacecow: is that real :/ |
| 03:34.25 | Kraps | no |
| 03:34.29 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 03:34.36 | bluspacecow | you tell me :) |
| 03:34.41 | bluspacecow | go research its ! |
| 03:39.07 | Wobin | Cairenn: the momma cat |
| 03:39.16 | Wobin | "I will pick you up by the side of your face!" |
| 03:39.32 | Wobin | Kraps: It's fake |
| 03:39.57 | Wobin | look at the credit |
| 03:39.58 | Wobin | http://scoopertino.com/exposed-the-imac-disaster-that-almost-was/ |
| 03:40.24 | Cairenn | Wobin: ah |
| 03:43.10 | alestane | Sleep, however frustrating, eventually becomes essential. |
| 03:43.42 | Cairenn | night alestane, sweet dreams |
| 03:43.46 | Cairenn | :p |
| 03:45.43 | Kraps | the sucker punch soundtrack is great |
| 03:52.00 | Ackis | anyone notice issues with maloriak this week? |
| 04:03.55 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_19268_5-ways-your-telecom-company-screwing-you.html |
| 04:07.08 | TC-Laptop | only 5? |
| 04:07.16 | Kraps | heh |
| 04:07.19 | Kraps | night |
| 04:09.59 | mikma | yeah.. my internet has been chopping the connection for 8 months now. i even changed isp ans now they basicly told me that the problem is in my end. either the phoneplug or the copper in the house |
| 04:10.25 | mikma | i need to connect the janitor in order to get a repairman |
| 04:12.35 | Cairenn | $20/month texting? Sign me up, that's a fuck of a lot cheaper than I can get here. |
| 04:13.18 | kd3 | but still, what's the number? 3000% more expensive than sending the equivalent amount of bits over a data plan |
| 04:13.42 | kd3 | and, last I checked, it's still cheaper to send a megabyte of data to mars than it is to send it to another cell via SMS |
| 04:13.45 | kd3 | sighs |
| 04:13.47 | Cairenn | kd3: that's my point exactly |
| 04:14.09 | Cairenn | $20/month is ridiculous ... and that's better than I can get, here in Canada |
| 04:14.16 | Cairenn | by at least double |
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| 04:16.08 | TC-Laptop | does google voice use the texting of your phone? |
| 04:16.08 | NeoTron | Is the Zone for firelands raid called Firelands? |
| 04:16.21 | kd3 | neo; iirc yes |
| 04:16.28 | kd3 | never zoned in to the actual raid on the ptr |
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| 04:25.18 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow is now known as stillStinky |
| 04:25.27 | bluspacecow | >_> |
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| 04:27.00 | NeoTron | guessI'll know |
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| 04:58.07 | Xinhuan | has 4.2 been announced today? |
| 04:58.15 | Cairenn | no |
| 04:58.20 | Cairenn | and there's been no pre-dl |
| 04:58.32 | Xinhuan | then why are peoplemass updating their addons to 4.2? |
| 04:58.44 | Wobin | for pony |
| 04:58.50 | karl_w_w | confidence in Bibi |
| 04:58.52 | Cairenn | the server maintenance msg is up on the servers, but it just says maintenance and is the usual length of time |
| 04:58.53 | karl_w_w | obviously |
| 04:59.02 | Xinhuan | it will just break for people that update to them lol |
| 04:59.04 | Cairenn | so thinking it may have been pushed back for some reason |
| 05:00.33 | Xinhuan | did arena seasonend last week or this week? |
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| 05:03.59 | karl_w_w | this week |
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| 05:06.55 | Ackis | hey Cairenn can I quote you on that? :D |
| 05:07.04 | Cairenn | no |
| 05:07.14 | Ackis | too late! :D |
| 05:12.33 | Ackis | (I quoted you to teh fiancee :P and made an ingame bet) |
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| 05:17.32 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 05:17.37 | Fisker | my tired level is over 9000 |
| 05:17.39 | Ackis | Fisker |
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| 05:20.50 | pompy | their usual maintenance is 5am-11am pacific.. but they are doing 3am-11am tomorrow |
| 05:22.26 | kd3 | yay for steam celebrating /Brown v EMA/ |
| 05:23.50 | Fisker | old kd3 |
| 05:23.52 | Fisker | btw hey kd3 |
| 05:23.59 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 05:24.04 | kd3 | no, I haven't heard anything either |
| 05:27.30 | Fisker | heard what? |
| 05:27.52 | kd3 | blizz's plan for (on the east coast, at least) later today |
| 05:28.16 | Fisker | what happened? |
| 05:28.59 | kd3 | "wru preload?" more or less sums it up |
| 05:29.33 | Fisker | oh |
| 05:29.42 | Fisker | why would anyone need a preload? |
| 05:32.29 | Fisker | ponders |
| 05:32.32 | pompy | the seervers are goin down at 6am eastern.. thats usually patch day hours |
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| 05:41.58 | Fisker | still ponders |
| 05:42.20 | Fisker | ponders intensely in front of kd3 |
| 05:44.59 | Fisker | stabs kd3 in the heart while pondering |
| 05:45.30 | Fisker | y u hate? |
| 05:46.31 | Thunder_Child | because people are human |
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| 06:19.04 | Fisker | kd3 still hates :( |
| 06:19.26 | Thunder_Child | kd3 is human |
| 06:19.29 | Thunder_Child | afaik |
| 06:19.36 | Shirik | it's always fun to watch wikipedia go down |
| 06:19.46 | Thunder_Child | did you take it down? |
| 06:19.57 | Shirik | no |
| 06:20.09 | Wobin | lies |
| 06:20.13 | Wobin | I bet you totally did |
| 06:20.15 | Wobin | for the lulz |
| 06:20.38 | Shirik | wikipedia tech channel: http://pastebin.com/2GAvryEJ |
| 06:20.45 | Shirik | I reported a problem I was seeing |
| 06:20.50 | Shirik | then the bot was like "oh shit" |
| 06:21.19 | Fisker | i no can click link |
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| 06:21.53 | Fisker | anyway kd3 y u think there be preloads? |
| 06:22.15 | kd3 | ...gah, why did I not silence xchat's pings? |
| 06:22.20 | kd3 | hasn't there always been a preload? |
| 06:22.58 | Fisker | Not since the new system i think |
| 06:23.11 | mckenziemc | considers killing Fisker in front of Fisker in front of Fisker |
| 06:23.31 | kd3 | could've sworn 4.1 preloads went out at least a few days before they patched |
| 06:23.44 | kd3 | let's check... |
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| 06:25.50 | Fisker | great theres a scratch on my phone :( |
| 06:26.41 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
| 06:26.49 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | so guys |
| 06:26.57 | Shirik | You know |
| 06:27.03 | Shirik | I wish all IT were like Wikimedia's IT |
| 06:27.06 | Mr_Rabies | approximately how nuts is tomorrow gonna be? |
| 06:27.14 | Mr_Rabies | how much changed from the addon perspective |
| 06:27.18 | Shirik | (23:26:17) (TimStarling) there were slow queries, so I killed them with that awk one-liner |
| 06:27.34 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure if any of my IT heard that, they would be like "...... what?" |
| 06:27.44 | kd3 | gasp |
| 06:28.10 | karl_w_w | did recount add forward compatibility for 4.2 this time or is going to be 4.1 spam and qq all over again? |
| 06:28.15 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 06:28.39 | Fisker | A Fisker was right |
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| 06:29.01 | kd3 | yay diffstat: http://pastebin.com/pPri1FiS |
| 06:29.08 | karl_w_w | A correct Fisker appears! |
| 06:29.14 | karl_w_w | It uses implausibility. |
| 06:29.19 | karl_w_w | It was super effective! |
| 06:30.06 | Shirik | o.O |
| 06:31.57 | Fisker | who makes a client that underlines links but dont let you click them? |
| 06:32.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: why would you expect them to? |
| 06:33.35 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Because I expect IT to know a thing or two about their jobs |
| 06:33.44 | Shirik | I know, a novel concept |
| 06:35.38 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: Depends on what they are supposed to support. |
| 06:39.24 | Xinhuan | how does shirik find time to chat on IRC, moderate wikipedia, answer stackoverflow, deal with wowinterface, perform his job, and more lol |
| 06:39.52 | Shirik | doesn't sleep == 50% more hours in a day |
| 06:40.03 | Fisker | weabo Imi |
| 06:40.26 | Fisker | imo |
| 06:41.11 | Xinhuan | gasp its true then, shirik is a robot! |
| 06:42.50 | Thunder_Child | not robot, AI |
| 06:42.51 | zenzio | Xinhuan: finding time is easy; doing it well on the other hand... |
| 06:42.53 | zenzio | :) |
| 06:43.24 | zenzio | Shirik: that's making the assumption that people sleep eight hours a day |
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| 06:44.24 | Shirik | sure zenzelezz :P |
| 06:45.05 | zenzio | not counting weekends, I rarely go to bed before one o'clock at night, and get up at seven |
| 06:48.57 | eXemplar | whats the easiest way to filter outgoing whispers? |
| 06:49.12 | eXemplar | I'm trying ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter with whisper_inform, but not having much luck with method scope and ace |
| 06:49.13 | zenzio | not sure you can |
| 06:49.17 | kd3 | don't install any mods that send whispers? |
| 06:49.27 | eXemplar | ok when I say filter, I mean conditially hide |
| 06:49.36 | eXemplar | from chat |
| 06:49.41 | zenzio | eXemplar: oh, so not actually stop them from sending, just stop from displaying? |
| 06:49.48 | eXemplar | yup |
| 06:50.20 | zenzio | hm, then it's possible; but don't know what's the best way, it sounds like you already know more about it than I do |
| 06:51.04 | karl_w_w | <Cairenn> the server maintenance msg is up on the servers, but it just says maintenance and is the usual length of time <- it's usually 6 hours, this one is 8 |
| 06:52.53 | eXemplar | ah, got it, just abused _G |
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| 06:53.10 | eXemplar | this is what I'm working on: http://pastebin.com/FyjgjeBk |
| 06:53.19 | eXemplar | a game of uno, in wow chat |
| 06:53.58 | kd3 | haven't seen the paste, but if you're doing this in an addon (and the other player's using the addon), use SendAddonMessage() instead |
| 06:54.42 | eXemplar | what, that func with a whisper and a target actually whispers them? |
| 06:54.50 | zenzio | eXemplar: that's interesting |
| 06:55.49 | eXemplar | ah, no, the other player won't be using my addon |
| 06:55.54 | eXemplar | players |
| 06:56.19 | eXemplar | it needs to be hidden on my chat, but show on theirs, or else I see their cards |
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| 06:56.25 | kd3 | ah, then yah. you'll have to do the send-it-normally-but-don't-display-it thing |
| 06:56.38 | eXemplar | yeah, I got it to wrok |
| 06:56.40 | eXemplar | work* |
| 06:56.42 | eXemplar | :) |
| 06:58.20 | Xinhuan | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721373772 |
| 06:58.27 | Xinhuan | still no news |
| 06:58.33 | Xinhuan | about whether there is a patch today |
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| 07:01.19 | Torhal_ | eXemplar: Don't declare your functions in the global namespace |
| 07:01.34 | Torhal_ | WHat you want to do is make the function local, and define it above the places where it's called. |
| 07:02.20 | Torhal_ | So "local function PrefixFilter" and put its definition above Uno:OnEnable() |
| 07:02.33 | pompy | Xinhuan: well they are doing an 8 hour maintenance which usually is patch day maintenance times |
| 07:02.55 | Torhal_ | Also, since Uno is already defined within the file, using _G["Uno"] is completely unnecessary |
| 07:03.36 | Torhal_ | FUck their 8-hour maintenance. I've been awake for 21 hours. |
| 07:03.40 | Torhal_ | Bastards. |
| 07:03.41 | Torhal_ | :D |
| 07:07.46 | mckenziemc | puts Torhal_ to sleep |
| 07:16.16 | Shirik | worst liar ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rexton.H&diff=prev&oldid=436633944 |
| 07:26.39 | Xinhuan | pompy: it can just be 8 hours due to ending the arena season without doing a major patch |
| 07:27.21 | Shirik | or it could be 8 hours to be all like "LOL WE FOOLED YOU" |
| 07:27.26 | Shirik | I would totally do that |
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| 07:39.04 | Fisker | ~wowalert |
| 07:39.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 07:39.17 | sylvanaar | there was already a blue post about it last week - saying it was this week |
| 07:39.26 | Shirik | Fisker is attempting to force the server to say patch |
| 07:56.15 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: you sure it wasn't 'as early as' this week? |
| 07:56.20 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 07:56.45 | sylvanaar | if it doesnt launch today they lose a lot of mindshare |
| 07:57.52 | sylvanaar | will be the best thing to ever happen to RIFT for sure |
| 07:59.11 | sylvanaar | we'll know in about 3 hours |
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| 08:07.23 | Shirik | sylvanaar: How do you figure? |
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| 08:08.00 | sylvanaar | the patcher usualy goes up within an hour or two after shutdown |
| 08:08.21 | Shirik | no |
| 08:08.24 | Shirik | the comment about rift |
| 08:08.30 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 08:08.45 | sylvanaar | people are expecting 4.2 today - no 4.2, ppl start to think about other games |
| 08:09.03 | sylvanaar | "wow takes too long to deliver content" |
| 08:09.13 | Shirik | I expect a lot of crying |
| 08:09.17 | Shirik | I don't expect a lot of actual movement |
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| 08:09.37 | karl_w_w | is google bugged or is there supposed to be a horrible dark grey border at the top? |
| 08:10.32 | zenzio | screenshot; there isn't on my google |
| 08:10.54 | Shirik | I don't even know how to get to google anymore |
| 08:11.58 | sylvanaar | http://www.bing.com/search?q=google&go=&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-6&form=QBLH |
| 08:12.02 | sylvanaar | Shirik: ^ |
| 08:12.12 | Shirik | didn't work |
| 08:12.19 | Shirik | (yes I really did try) |
| 08:12.25 | Shirik | igoogle takes over your computer |
| 08:12.35 | sylvanaar | god i hate igoogle |
| 08:12.46 | Shirik | me too, but it doesn't impact me anyway |
| 08:12.51 | Shirik | I just search from chrome's address bar |
| 08:13.03 | sylvanaar | ok, going to into the office see you in a few |
| 08:13.11 | Shirik | byes |
| 08:13.21 | karl_w_w | http://i54.tinypic.com/24d4uoi.png |
| 08:14.04 | Shirik | looks ok to me |
| 08:14.16 | Shirik | it almost looks like a theme |
| 08:14.29 | zenzio | karl_w_w: are you logged in to a Google account? |
| 08:14.39 | karl_w_w | nop |
| 08:14.44 | Shirik | it would show on the top right if he was |
| 08:15.04 | zenzio | Shirik: given that the "Safe Search" is cut off, I'm assuming he didn't include the top right |
| 08:15.09 | karl_w_w | yeah i didnt |
| 08:15.12 | Shirik | oh true |
| 08:15.20 | karl_w_w | but it says log in up there |
| 08:15.26 | zenzio | but since you're not logged in, I don't know |
| 08:15.35 | karl_w_w | sigh in even |
| 08:15.56 | karl_w_w | its not there on .com.au |
| 08:16.01 | karl_w_w | only .com |
| 08:27.55 | Fisker | what does your 4.2 patch say about my rightlevel? |
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| 08:30.50 | karl_w_w | i'll rightlevel you if you're not careful |
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| 09:32.01 | sylvanaar_work | toc bumping is like a work-out |
| 09:33.56 | Fisker | y i quit Itcha? |
| 09:34.15 | Cairenn | sylvanaar but at least they got approved quick ;) |
| 09:34.25 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, i noticed! |
| 09:34.29 | Cairenn | :) |
| 09:35.49 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:36.36 | sylvanaar_work | ah, that was the last one |
| 09:38.36 | sylvanaar_work | with this new icloud thing I'm a little confused with how to sync and back up my iphone |
| 09:39.53 | sylvanaar_work | i guess they must still be working out the kinks |
| 09:40.33 | sylvanaar_work | woops - that was meant for another channel |
| 09:45.33 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 09:45.58 | Fisker | i dont worry about it :( |
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| 09:52.20 | sylvanaar_work | http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ |
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| 09:55.32 | karl_w_w | anyone know how big the patch will be? |
| 09:55.57 | Cairenn | We don't even know for sure if it's going this week, let alone size. |
| 09:56.07 | zenzio | roughly 0.1 |
| 09:56.17 | Cairenn | lol zenzio |
| 09:56.27 | harl | wuff |
| 09:56.36 | zenzio | ohai |
| 09:57.03 | sylvanaar_work | it better be this week lol |
| 09:57.04 | karl_w_w | it will be this week |
| 09:57.08 | sylvanaar_work | i just updated all my mods |
| 09:57.18 | karl_w_w | blizz have already put out the patch notes |
| 09:57.23 | karl_w_w | why would it not be this month |
| 09:57.25 | karl_w_w | week |
| 09:57.26 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 09:57.43 | Cairenn | karl_w_w: if a bug showed up :p |
| 09:57.53 | Cairenn | things do go wrong at the last minute |
| 09:58.07 | sylvanaar_work | they would patch it in a subsequent release imo |
| 09:58.19 | Cairenn | would depend on how big it was |
| 09:58.27 | sylvanaar_work | true true |
| 09:58.41 | Cairenn | they've planned on releasing an update on one week and had to put it on hold at the last minute before |
| 09:59.00 | Cairenn | not saying it isn't going live today, just saying it might not be, we don't know for sure yet, the servers are only just going down now |
| 09:59.20 | zenzio | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/funny-celebrity-pictures-gene-wilder-og.jpg |
| 09:59.24 | Cairenn | we'll know for sue in a while :p |
| 10:00.17 | sylvanaar_work | servers down now? |
| 10:00.47 | Cairenn | supposed to be going down at 3am pdt, so yeah, dropping any minute now |
| 10:01.08 | Xinhuan | 400 mb according to mmo-champ |
| 10:01.13 | Xinhuan | with a korean 4.2 confirmation |
| 10:01.29 | Cairenn | cool |
| 10:02.19 | Cairenn | afk a couple, need to get the garbage & recycling out, brb |
| 10:02.29 | zenzio | "(Thanks to locriani for translating/confirming that) " -- it would be cruel but fun to claim to speak Korean and "confirm" it |
| 10:02.45 | karl_w_w | ~4.5 hour download time at my current speed |
| 10:02.48 | karl_w_w | thumbs up |
| 10:03.55 | sylvanaar_work | not yet live on my client |
| 10:04.45 | karl_w_w | paris time? poor european wowers have to work on paris time :( |
| 10:04.53 | karl_w_w | almost makes you want to cry |
| 10:05.04 | sylvanaar_work | I'm just happy I got everything done before my meeting this morning - I think that it might actually last all day |
| 10:10.14 | Wobin | hahah, the browser wars: http://api.ning.com/files/CcZD28Gc32ikWPYy8lcN2ynYUjJkL-AUyTc*OSuODe-vUD02Hnkd6M-KjPpmXwQhuqtaYqEHmD4q7jLibpdyIl4EMhxMvvII/browserwarcopy.jpg |
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| 10:13.46 | karl_w_w | that image is inaccurate wobin |
| 10:13.58 | Wobin | pft, it's entertaining |
| 10:13.58 | karl_w_w | it suggests ie would be able to get the top off the glue |
| 10:14.04 | Wobin | that's all I care about =P |
| 10:14.15 | Wobin | Safari probably popped the lid for him |
| 10:14.23 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 10:23.03 | Cairenn | Wobin: hehehe, yeah, saw that, amusing |
| 10:42.32 | airtonix | incorrect |
| 10:42.46 | airtonix | it was curl that poped the lid |
| 10:43.08 | airtonix | and wget obtained it for him |
| 10:43.21 | zenzio | I wouldn't call those browsers |
| 10:43.44 | airtonix | real men browse with pidgeons |
| 10:44.31 | airtonix | back when i was a child we had to factor in an industry standard ping time of 6months |
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| 13:19.46 | karl_w_w | http://qmpsummative.cf.ac.uk/perception5/open.php?session=0166858719356464&customerid=QMPSummative |
| 13:20.07 | karl_w_w | woops, wrong one |
| 13:20.08 | karl_w_w | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13906169 |
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| 13:36.26 | zenzio | "Louis in Left 4 Dead is considered the game's token black guy. Veteran Bill is the token old guy, and Zoey is the token girl. Young white male biker Francis is the least mentally stable of the four, and some Fanon says he's gay. " -- "The above Troper forgets that, in Fanon, Everyone Is Gay. " |
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| 13:44.17 | zenzio | "Within the Power Trio of the Allied leadership of World War II, Josef Stalin played The Spock to FDR's Kirk and Winston Churchill's McCoy." -- WW2: the Star Trek version |
| 13:44.52 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
| 13:46.24 | karl_w_w | FDR wasn't a leader he was a follower :P |
| 13:46.34 | Lopeppeppy | He was a walrus in sheep's clothing. |
| 13:46.53 | zenzio | now that's an expression I'm not familiar with |
| 13:47.09 | Lopeppeppy | Random Greater Unslept Peppy is random. |
| 13:48.22 | alestane | picks Peppy up by the scruff and deposits her back in bed. |
| 13:48.57 | karl_w_w | it's more like stalin was worf, fdr was riker and churchill was picard |
| 13:49.48 | zenzio | dude, no way |
| 13:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, alestane. |
| 13:49.54 | zenzio | how dare you compare Churchill to Picard |
| 13:50.02 | Lopeppeppy | Picard is a GOD! |
| 13:50.10 | zenzio | exactly |
| 13:51.12 | karl_w_w | it's still a lot more accurate than calling fdr kirk |
| 13:51.31 | Kraps_w | Churchill was pretty cool |
| 13:51.44 | Kraps_w | even though he was a massive asshole |
| 13:52.29 | zenzio | fat, stubborn guy loaded on benzedrine; not my idea of cool... though if you compare to FDR, then cool*er* |
| 13:53.26 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, uppers. |
| 13:54.09 | karl_w_w | asshole yes, fat irrelevant?, stubborn... perfect wartime leader |
| 13:54.13 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: uFDR? |
| 13:54.25 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, uppers. |
| 13:54.36 | airtonix | :3 |
| 13:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so tired I'd prop up my eyelids with 'em. |
| 13:56.21 | karl_w_w | if that's not drug abuse I don't know what is |
| 13:56.39 | airtonix | take coffee it's more acceptable at church group meetings |
| 13:56.45 | airtonix | ;> |
| 13:56.54 | Lopeppeppy | I have Dr. Pepper, it's my caffeine solution. |
| 13:57.01 | airtonix | "Oh the nerve of those drug addicts!" |
| 13:57.06 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.47 | airtonix | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Mother-energy-drink-Australia.JPG/201px-Mother-energy-drink-Australia.JPG |
| 13:57.55 | airtonix | your mother |
| 13:57.56 | karl_w_w | better yet, don't go to church |
| 13:58.07 | airtonix | oh but it's lulz karl |
| 13:58.09 | karl_w_w | i am enjoying that mother ad with the car in it |
| 13:58.25 | karl_w_w | you dont see a lot of enjoyable ads in aus |
| 13:58.40 | airtonix | all the good ones are in europe |
| 13:59.00 | airtonix | where sex shows happen next to mcdonalds |
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| 14:04.21 | zenzio | <karl_w_w> asshole yes, fat irrelevant?, stubborn... perfect wartime leader <-- stubborn didn't work so well for Hiitler |
| 14:05.39 | schnoggo | wow. 1st msg I see after loggin in is an example of Godwin's law? |
| 14:05.48 | zenzio | lol |
| 14:05.52 | zenzio | schnoggo: we were already talking WW2 |
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| 14:06.18 | schnoggo | pats zenzio on the head... Sure you were :) |
| 14:06.20 | Kraps_w | zenzio: you realize thats irrelevant |
| 14:07.04 | zenzio | Kraps_w: I disagree; and I'l continue disagreeing as long as you keep tell me Churchill was awesome |
| 14:07.42 | Kraps_w | wat |
| 14:07.57 | Kraps_w | it does not follow |
| 14:08.18 | zenzio | I'm exaggerating to try confuse you |
| 14:08.36 | Kraps_w | its working |
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| 14:16.16 | Parnic | so is it 4.2 day? |
| 14:17.08 | karl_w_w | so we're calling hitler a bad leader now |
| 14:17.41 | Ackis | hitler wasn't a bad leader |
| 14:17.46 | Ackis | he was a good leader |
| 14:17.57 | Ackis | but he was an evil man |
| 14:18.12 | zenzio | he was a bad military leader, where his stubbornness and refusal to listen to his actual military commanders led to many grievous losses |
| 14:18.19 | Kraps_w | ^ |
| 14:18.22 | schnoggo | So we have about 4 hours until realms come up, right? *edits furiously* |
| 14:18.36 | Kraps_w | i mean, look at the downfall clip |
| 14:21.19 | Ackis | wow http://dvice.com/archives/2011/06/capcom-tries-to.php |
| 14:21.24 | Ackis | I hope this game sells a total of 1 copy |
| 14:22.44 | Lopeppeppy | 4 hours? That optimistic, are we? |
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| 14:23.27 | Kraps_w | how is that even a viable business strategy? |
| 14:26.23 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has a hobby, some people like to shoot themselves in the foot? |
| 14:28.11 | zenzio | that's not a very good habit; you can only do it so many times |
| 14:28.21 | zenzio | wonders how "hobby" became "habit" |
| 14:28.24 | Xubera | unless the game is like $5 |
| 14:28.25 | zenzio | might be time to go home |
| 14:29.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sure I'd buy a one use game for 5 bucks. |
| 14:30.08 | Cairenn | Okay, that's just stupid |
| 14:30.46 | Ackis | sorry Cairenn :( |
| 14:30.55 | Ackis | goes off to the corner. |
| 14:30.59 | Cairenn | not you |
| 14:31.02 | Cairenn | :p |
| 14:31.03 | Kalroth | me?! |
| 14:31.23 | Cairenn | the business model already under discussion |
| 14:31.33 | Kalroth | Oh, that |
| 14:31.38 | Ackis | I was chewing gum on Friday and I think a piece of my tooth came off (it could've been filling) :( |
| 14:31.41 | Kalroth | Well it's sadly not a new thing |
| 14:31.57 | karl_w_w | "Will other publishers follow in Capcom's footsteps" |
| 14:31.58 | karl_w_w | no |
| 14:32.03 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.07 | Cairenn | new or not, it's still stupid |
| 14:32.13 | Fisker | i'm tired karl_w_w |
| 14:32.27 | Xubera | lol, can you imagine wow if you could only hjave one character per account xD |
| 14:32.50 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 14:32.51 | Kalroth | karl_w_w: EA has been doing it for a few games |
| 14:32.57 | Ackis | Xubera: star wars galaxies let you have 1 toon per server only |
| 14:33.01 | karl_w_w | and people buy these games? |
| 14:33.05 | Kalroth | they want to kill used game sales, since it is causing more damage than piracy |
| 14:33.27 | karl_w_w | i cant think of a game ive ever bought that i havent played more than once |
| 14:33.53 | Kalroth | well now you only have to wait for it to go on sale so you can play it again |
| 14:33.56 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 14:33.57 | Lopeppeppy | A book I haven't read until it crumbled. I've even worn out a DVD before. |
| 14:34.04 | Fisker | that game should sell less than 1 copy |
| 14:34.07 | Fisker | and retail should die |
| 14:34.11 | Fisker | problem solved, both sides. |
| 14:34.14 | Xubera | well if a game is $35, and they sell a one time use for $5, you could get it 7 times... this might lead to more game sampling (thats if they lower the price drastically) |
| 14:34.24 | Kalroth | haha, lower the price?? |
| 14:34.31 | Kalroth | Yeah, no |
| 14:34.34 | Fisker | Used Sales > Piracy |
| 14:34.46 | Fisker | i hope retail dies |
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| 14:35.26 | Fisker | what about you Xinhuan ? |
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| 14:35.29 | Xubera | that would kill a lot of jobs :/ |
| 14:35.31 | Kalroth | They're going to limit to 1 playthrough (because that is what 90% of their purchasers do) and then you can buy the game again if you want to play it again |
| 14:35.46 | Fisker | nah Xubera |
| 14:36.07 | karl_w_w | "that is what 90% of their purchasers do" this stat sounds dodgy to me |
| 14:36.21 | Kalroth | Using robots in the hard labour industry killed a lot of jobs |
| 14:36.41 | Kalroth | karl_w_w: 73% of all stats are made up on the spot |
| 14:36.51 | Kraps_w | the invention of cars killed a lot of jobs |
| 14:37.10 | Fisker | the shooting spree at columbine killed a lot of jobs |
| 14:37.11 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvrcdQWzH-8 |
| 14:37.11 | Fisker | lol |
| 14:37.16 | Xubera | what i usually do is play as much as possible in a 72 hour period,,, then i get bored, then i come back a week later, clueless on whats going on so I start over, play less often but more frequently (if that makes sense) and then i get a little further, get bored and start over again |
| 14:37.43 | Fisker | my server is offline Ackis |
| 14:38.15 | Kraps_w | WW2 killed a lot of jobs |
| 14:38.19 | Ackis | your face will be offline if you keep it up Fisker |
| 14:38.26 | Fisker | why? |
| 14:38.36 | Ackis | I felt like threatening you |
| 14:38.51 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 14:38.54 | Fisker | umad? |
| 14:39.22 | Ackis | nah |
| 14:39.27 | Ackis | I am in pain however |
| 14:40.24 | Cairenn | You okay Ackis? |
| 14:40.35 | Fisker | i am in pain too! |
| 14:41.09 | Cairenn | Are you okay Fisker? |
| 14:41.17 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:41.20 | Cairenn | Good |
| 14:41.24 | Fisker | however my server isn't starting |
| 14:41.39 | Fisker | which means i have to turn around and turn on my tv |
| 14:41.48 | Fisker | the horror |
| 14:41.50 | mikma | sylvanaar_work: maybe CopyThat! is taking the first frame visible when you mouseover the chat (WorldFrame) and tries to grab the FPS: text from that frame. ChatFrame1 is second frame visible ^^ |
| 14:43.14 | Lopeppeppy | Go put on socks, Fisker. |
| 14:43.36 | Fisker | how is that going to help my server? |
| 14:43.58 | Kraps_w | y so pain Ackis |
| 14:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | Socks are very comforting. Put some on your server too. |
| 14:46.13 | Ackis | "I was chewing gum on Friday and I think a piece of my tooth came off (it could've been filling) :(" |
| 14:46.15 | Ackis | Kraps_w: ^ |
| 14:46.38 | Ackis | I'm thinking a dentist visit is in order |
| 14:46.54 | Kraps_w | you need some BAD MEDICINE |
| 14:47.14 | sylvanaar_work | mikma: for copychat to copy the chatframe there is a special command |
| 14:47.24 | sylvanaar_work | er copythat |
| 14:47.28 | mikma | which apparently fails horribly then |
| 14:47.49 | sylvanaar_work | its /cpt ChatFrame1 |
| 14:47.52 | sylvanaar_work | something like that |
| 14:47.56 | mikma | too much work |
| 14:48.28 | sylvanaar_work | chatframes dont appear in the framestack - or at least they didnt when i wrote it |
| 14:49.06 | mikma | atleast they appear in Spew ^^ go tekkub |
| 14:49.51 | sylvanaar_work | ok then |
| 14:49.59 | zenzio | I find there's surprisingly many interesting points listed here... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeamMeUpScotty |
| 14:50.13 | Fisker | mikma |
| 14:51.03 | sylvanaar_work | has no idea why mikma is on his case |
| 14:52.26 | mikma | i tried your addon, and it didn't do what it promised with keybinding. |
| 14:52.27 | schnoggo | hi Cairenn! Did you get a good night's sleep in prep for patch day? |
| 14:52.37 | mikma | i call that a misleading advertise!!!111 |
| 14:52.42 | Cairenn | schnoggo: you're joking, correct? |
| 14:52.42 | sylvanaar_work | oh |
| 14:52.50 | Adys | are there wine players who already patched 4.2? |
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| 14:53.58 | schnoggo | heh, Cairenn. Just a hope. Good luck in the deluge. |
| 14:54.03 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 14:54.04 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 14:54.11 | nicoli_s | it raining there too? |
| 14:54.31 | Cairenn | he's referring to the patch and thus our sites getting swamped |
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| 14:54.45 | nicoli_s | ahhh duh |
| 14:54.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:55.00 | Cairenn | hugs nicoli_s and hands him a coffee |
| 14:55.02 | mikma | get better servers you noob |
| 14:55.17 | nicoli_s | why thank you |
| 14:55.28 | nicoli_s | i wish we had some decent tea here :( maybe i can just pile it up with sugar |
| 14:56.30 | schnoggo | Boo. It would be Firefly |
| 14:56.37 | schnoggo | oops - wrong channel :) |
| 14:56.57 | sylvanaar_work | i guess my maids pulled my lan cable out - now i have to go home - lame |
| 14:57.42 | Kraps_w | maids |
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| 14:57.51 | Kraps_w | how many do you have/need? |
| 14:58.05 | sylvanaar_work | i have a service |
| 14:59.08 | Kraps_w | ~ping |
| 14:59.08 | purl | ~pong |
| 14:59.27 | schnoggo | ro ro. svn.esamynn.org gone? Anyone know the new official home of Astrolabe? |
| 14:59.35 | Fisker | ro ro? |
| 14:59.38 | sylvanaar_work | i thought it was dead |
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| 15:00.15 | schnoggo | Fisker: "ro ro" would be Scooby Doo's version of "uh oh." |
| 15:00.23 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:00.29 | Fisker | it's roh roh btw |
| 15:00.40 | schnoggo | sits corrected |
| 15:01.00 | Adys | http://notch.tumblr.com/post/7009276212/trickling-information-about-the-adventure-update |
| 15:01.56 | Fisker | i feel like puking |
| 15:02.00 | Fisker | is this acceptable? |
| 15:02.21 | Fisker | Adys |
| 15:02.25 | nicoli_s | feeling a little bit bulemic fisker? |
| 15:02.26 | Fisker | what size is the EU enGB patch? |
| 15:02.37 | Fisker | idk nicoli_s |
| 15:03.05 | Ackis | tickles Fisker |
| 15:03.08 | Adys | I dont know Fisker |
| 15:03.36 | Fisker | why not? :( |
| 15:03.48 | Adys | because im on holiday :P |
| 15:04.07 | Ackis | hey Adys someone named Adys killed me in WoW over and over |
| 15:04.53 | Adys | i bet he had a huge boner doing it |
| 15:05.09 | Adys | Just like I did when I did it with your mom |
| 15:05.30 | Ackis | I know you're lying because you said "huge" |
| 15:05.32 | Adys | (Oh you're clever aren't you my darling? I see the double-entendre of the joke! Clever indeed!) |
| 15:05.33 | Fisker | Adys' name is taken on his realm i believe btw |
| 15:05.46 | Adys | it used to be Fisker |
| 15:05.51 | Adys | i convinced a gm to let me get it |
| 15:06.34 | Fisker | Adys :O |
| 15:06.37 | Fisker | haker |
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| 15:06.52 | Adys | zips up |
| 15:06.55 | Adys | I'm convincing. |
| 15:07.15 | karl_w_w | patch is up |
| 15:07.25 | Hegarol | AtlasLoot for Patch 4.2 is available. Have fun :) |
| 15:07.29 | Kraps_w | there arent any female GMs Adys |
| 15:07.38 | Adys | Hehe. |
| 15:07.39 | Adys | I know. |
| 15:07.42 | AcidWeb | Hegarol: great. |
| 15:07.48 | karl_w_w | that's cos there aren't any females on the internet |
| 15:07.53 | Ackis | ~cheer Hegarol |
| 15:07.53 | purl | Three cheers for Hegarol! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! Hip hip Hurray! |
| 15:08.01 | AcidWeb | USA already got 4.2? |
| 15:08.04 | Fisker | there is Kraps_w |
| 15:08.11 | Fisker | i've known 3 or so |
| 15:08.20 | Kraps_w | Adys: i'm not judging |
| 15:08.52 | karl_w_w | when he says zips up |
| 15:09.05 | karl_w_w | he doesnt mean his own flies |
| 15:09.38 | Kraps_w | well then thats very considerate of him |
| 15:09.48 | Kraps_w | cleaning up after himself |
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| 15:12.30 | nicoli_s | Hegarol:so have you looked any more into doing atlas loot for rift yet? |
| 15:12.54 | Hegarol | no |
| 15:13.01 | Hegarol | wow and 4.2 had priority |
| 15:13.14 | Hegarol | besides there are no item apis yet |
| 15:13.19 | nicoli_s | mmk, im working on adding the ability to add click menus to points on my map addon, loot stuff would be cool :) |
| 15:13.32 | Hegarol | the database for AtlasLoot RIFT is already done though |
| 15:13.35 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 15:13.47 | Hegarol | we are just waiting for the APIs and then we will start doing the actual coding |
| 15:14.38 | Kraps_w | clique and grid plz |
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| 15:17.32 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 15:17.44 | Fisker | haste |
| 15:18.39 | Kraps_w | wow the robots are rebelling already |
| 15:22.49 | Kraps_w | i have a headache from no coffee |
| 15:23.01 | schnoggo | Role Model |
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| 15:35.42 | karl_w_w | http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=241612509182986&id=132326176778287 why are people posting their realm? |
| 15:37.12 | karl_w_w | classic case of monkey see monkey do |
| 15:37.22 | Adys | same reason people post their toilet status on twitter |
| 15:37.51 | Adys | they're bored, asocial and with nothing else than shit to love. |
| 15:39.52 | karl_w_w | looking at them makes me despair |
| 15:41.36 | Xinhuan | because |
| 15:41.38 | airtonix | bye |
| 15:41.40 | Xinhuan | "The winners will receive codes to redeem their companion pets, I'll need to know if you play on an US or an EU server first since these codes are region-locked, but it also means that you can totally enter and just give the code to someone else!" |
| 15:42.00 | Xinhuan | so people put "US" or "EU" |
| 15:42.09 | Xinhuan | and some idiots started adding their realm |
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| 15:42.59 | Xinhuan | but of course, nobody in the right mind will read all 10 thousand comments to find out if you're EU or US |
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| 15:45.21 | karl_w_w | it's incredible really |
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| 15:48.21 | Kraps_w | think rift will go F2P? |
| 15:48.33 | nicoli_s | i dont think so |
| 15:48.37 | nicoli_s | its still doing pretty well |
| 15:49.00 | Xinhuan | i don't see any reason why it would go F2P |
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| 15:49.09 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:49.14 | Xinhuan | in fact, how many MMOs do you know went from non-free to F2P? |
| 15:49.25 | Xinhuan | 2? |
| 15:49.30 | Lunessa | I can think of two. |
| 15:49.56 | Xinhuan | yeah, well the context is "<Kraps_w> think rift will go F2P?" |
| 15:50.04 | Xinhuan | and "<Xinhuan> i don't see any reason why it would go F2P" |
| 15:50.09 | Kraps_w | CoH will soon |
| 15:50.13 | Ackis | lotro, DDO, EQ, EQ2 all went F2P didn't they? |
| 15:50.18 | Ackis | CO too |
| 15:50.29 | Xinhuan | EQ2 is f2p now? |
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| 15:50.37 | Ackis | they have free servers yeah |
| 15:50.42 | Xinhuan | if so that's news to me |
| 15:51.03 | Cairenn1 | they have 1 |
| 15:51.04 | Xinhuan | so you're saying they have to-pay servers as well as f2p ones? |
| 15:51.07 | Cairenn1 | not multiple |
| 15:51.19 | Xinhuan | i don't really count that as a f2p mmo then |
| 15:51.20 | Kraps_w | so i'm thinking F2P is a "second wind" buff for mmos |
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| 15:52.09 | Xinhuan | the 2 i thought of was DDO and FFXIV |
| 15:52.10 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 15:52.24 | Kraps_w | old Xinhuan :p |
| 15:52.40 | Xinhuan | yeah but why would you bring up Rift |
| 15:52.43 | Xinhuan | pfffffft |
| 15:53.09 | jankly | Cairenn: It would still apply outside the realm of that upload though. |
| 15:53.31 | Kraps_w | podcast is discussing TF2 going F2P |
| 15:53.52 | Cairenn | jankly: nod, I just missed the fact that you'd uploaded it, not cael |
| 15:53.53 | Kraps_w | and i'm thinking about all the mmos that did |
| 15:54.08 | Xinhuan | whats the reason for TF2 going free btw? |
| 15:54.50 | Maldivia | it's 4 years old and doesn't sell much anymore? |
| 15:54.56 | Kraps_w | because valve, thats why |
| 15:54.57 | Parnic | because they are making money hand over fist through microtransactions and the price of the game was just a barrier to entry for new people to spend money on hats |
| 15:55.06 | nevcairiel | get loads of people interested in free play, and earn with micro transactions |
| 15:55.10 | nevcairiel | win-win! |
| 15:55.21 | Xinhuan | "doesn't sell much anymore" doesn't make sense to me since its still a very popular game |
| 15:55.33 | jankly | Cairenn: Having both sub-authors and main author getting the message would be nice, not only the uploader is all I was saying. |
| 15:55.42 | Cairenn | nod |
| 15:56.03 | Parnic | Xinhuan: there are always people who will not pay any price whatsoever, even if it's small. now they've opened the game for those people to possibly spend $1 on a hat and it's more money than they would have gotten otherwise |
| 15:56.15 | Parnic | plus hats are 100% profit for valve whereas retail sales are more like 30% |
| 15:56.49 | Xinhuan | people buy tf2 retail? |
| 15:56.59 | Parnic | some, sure |
| 15:57.01 | nevcairiel | you can buy tf2 retail? |
| 15:57.05 | Parnic | of course |
| 15:57.07 | Kraps_w | freaking hats |
| 15:57.11 | nevcairiel | never seen it as a box |
| 15:57.14 | zenzio | "In the initial mini-series and first few episodes, humanoid Cylons are shown to have glowing spines during intercourse. However, this was officially retconned by producers when it was pointed out that Dr. Baltar already had an amazing Cylon detector. In his pants." |
| 15:57.20 | jankly | Cairenn: Thank you otherwise though. |
| 15:57.35 | Cairenn | you're welcome jankly, sorry I missed it |
| 15:57.37 | Parnic | nevcairiel: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/iappz/ |
| 15:59.18 | Xinhuan | that reminds me of the time one of the artists in my studio drew a "mutalisk-like" creature, and his teacher/lecturer asked him "so how does this creature shit?" and said it the creature won't make it into a computer game |
| 15:59.25 | Xinhuan | because it isn't biologically sound |
| 15:59.42 | nevcairiel | who says creatures have to shit? |
| 15:59.55 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 15:59.57 | Fisker | i don't feel so well |
| 16:00.01 | nevcairiel | good |
| 16:00.55 | Adys | cbreak: any idea why this wouldnt work? |
| 16:00.56 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/560278/ |
| 16:02.56 | Fisker | why nevcairiel? :( |
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| 16:11.50 | cog|away | |Jelly|: ohai mr. wineo |
| 16:12.04 | |Jelly| | hungover. |
| 16:13.08 | cog|work | ut oh |
| 16:13.25 | cog|work | can has intervention tiem nao? :P |
| 16:13.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, summer hangovers are always worse than winter ones. |
| 16:13.51 | cog|work | also WTF RAIN? |
| 16:13.54 | |Jelly| | no! |
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| 16:15.24 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 16:15.27 | Cairenn | Anyone interested in a sore back? On special today, I'll throw in a migraine too! |
| 16:15.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, no thank you, we've got one already, it's very nice! |
| 16:15.53 | Xubera | can i get a sinus infection with that too please? |
| 16:16.12 | Xubera | thats pretty much a deal breaker for me, if i cant get that as well |
| 16:16.34 | |Jelly| | Oh! It's on special?! IT MUST BE GOOD! |
| 16:16.47 | Cairenn | Ah, sorry, Xubera, all out of sinus infections right now. Might be able to come up with bronchitis if I really try for you, though? |
| 16:17.16 | cog|work | Xubera: mrs. cog has some chronic sinusitis she might be willing to part with |
| 16:17.22 | Xubera | well i guess its okay for now, but I will be getting in contact with your customer service department, Cairenn |
| 16:17.31 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: "I told him we already have one!" |
| 16:20.25 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn! I bought a bathing suit without having to do murder onto sales staff or self! |
| 16:20.34 | Cairenn | ! Grats! |
| 16:21.22 | Maldivia | yay for shopping online? |
| 16:21.23 | Maldivia | hides |
| 16:21.24 | Lunessa | Ok, no one is allowed to be ill or physically broken today. I'm fresh out of 'emotional support' and I'm having to leverage 'sympathetic pains' and 'psychological trauma' to compensate. |
| 16:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | No. Yay for something that fits, in a size I can live with! |
| 16:21.52 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: :) |
| 16:22.02 | ccox | WTF RAIN isn't the point. WTF RAIN IN CA IN JUNE is the point. |
| 16:22.10 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa may have to muzzle me on principle though, I'm so joyous. |
| 16:22.32 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: I'm an ex-swimmer - I'm used to wearing speedos 4 sizes too small :P |
| 16:22.32 | Lunessa | (slightly edited, that made a good tweet -- so yeah) |
| 16:22.59 | AcidWeb | In 4.2 also honor is converted in gold or only CP to honor? |
| 16:23.05 | Lunessa | Maldivia: Isn't that just a ploy to get girls? |
| 16:23.07 | Lopeppeppy | Maldivia, I have huge tracts of land, I'm used to wearing suits that are way too big in compensation. Think about what that says about the both of us. |
| 16:23.23 | Kraps_w | dont be silly Lunessa, caring about people on the internet? pffft |
| 16:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh. Power surges! |
| 16:24.02 | Maldivia | Lunessa: well, wasn't for me, can't speak for others :) |
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| 16:26.11 | Xubera | anyone else in love with Pandora? |
| 16:26.37 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, Pandora has limits. I listen to local radio streaming. |
| 16:26.50 | Fisker | puts on socks |
| 16:26.59 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
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| 16:27.57 | Mr_Rabies | the biggest limit that pandora has is it doesn't have enough of the weird music i listen to |
| 16:28.18 | Kraps_w | Xubera: i'm a fan |
| 16:28.28 | Xubera | show me a loca lstation who airs Taking back sunday, brand new, death cab, avenged sevenfold, and a variey of other bands while still introducing others and allow me to call into the station and ask them to skip to the next song ;D |
| 16:29.45 | Fisker | cog|work is not our cog|work |
| 16:34.08 | cog|work | is not me |
| 16:34.14 | Lopeppeppy | dances around the office. Happy happy, joy joy! |
| 16:34.28 | Lunessa | whoa... gettin all existential and shit up in here, yo. |
| 16:34.32 | cog|work | Happy happy, joy joy! |
| 16:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | Jolly candylike button, baby. |
| 16:36.01 | Lunessa | History Eraser Button? |
| 16:36.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hell no. *clutches bathing suit wildly* |
| 16:36.19 | cog|work | Je ne suis pas un Cog |
| 16:36.34 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy is not our Lopeppeppy |
| 16:36.48 | Lopeppeppy | Je n'ai pas un Cogwheel. Jamais. |
| 16:36.55 | Lopeppeppy | I am my own Peppy-thing! |
| 16:37.14 | Fisker | no! |
| 16:37.19 | Lopeppeppy | Mine! |
| 16:38.20 | Xubera | Polly voo fran say? |
| 16:38.25 | Xubera | :D |
| 16:38.54 | Lopeppeppy | Non. |
| 16:39.05 | cog|work | Fisker n'a pas une pipe |
| 16:39.33 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh la la! |
| 16:39.55 | Fisker | i don't even know what it means |
| 16:40.08 | cog|work | what is this i don't even |
| 16:41.56 | cog|work | world of warcraft is up to date |
| 16:41.59 | cog|work | GIMMEH MA SERVERS |
| 16:42.06 | Lopeppeppy | No. |
| 16:42.18 | cog|work | ok |
| 16:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | All your servers are belong to us. You have no chance, make your time. |
| 16:42.26 | Lopeppeppy | Ha ha ha. |
| 16:42.44 | Lunessa | Somebody set us up the patch. |
| 16:42.53 | Ackis | this is kind of sad but also happy: http://www.animals-zone.com/happy/ "This is a story about cats and dogs that have found a new home and regain their will for lifeâ¦" |
| 16:44.07 | Fisker | Repo cog|work |
| 16:44.12 | Fisker | fuck you autocomplete |
| 16:44.14 | Fisker | anyway cog|work |
| 16:44.23 | Fisker | there is no patch 4.2 |
| 16:44.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal|work (~torhal_wo@173-14-207-161-huntsville.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 16:44.43 | Fisker | kd3 said so himself because there was no preload |
| 16:44.47 | cog|work | are you calling me a LIAR!!!? |
| 16:45.51 | Fisker | kd3 is |
| 16:45.56 | Fisker | no preload = no patch |
| 16:46.30 | schnoggo | no patch? Then why did my client just get updated? |
| 16:46.52 | Fisker | schnoggo i'm trolling because i were victorious |
| 16:47.02 | schnoggo | ah... of course |
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| 16:47.45 | Lunessa | Fisker: You're always trolling. I imagine just wearing a troll-face mask all day. |
| 16:48.09 | Fisker | naw Lunessa |
| 16:48.21 | schnoggo | well. I'm done until the realms come online and/or Esamynn shows up. Off to paying work... |
| 16:48.36 | Lopeppeppy | Esamynn sleeps all the time, I never see him. |
| 16:50.23 | Fisker | i once slept Lopeppeppy |
| 16:50.59 | jnwhiteh | I once slept a Lopeppeppy |
| 16:51.42 | Lopeppeppy | ooh, this is starting to sound promising! |
| 16:51.52 | Xubera | oh la la? |
| 16:52.19 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:53.45 | Lopeppeppy | A girl has to have a hobby, mine is just a bit more interactive than most. |
| 16:54.07 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 16:54.08 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 16:54.18 | Lunessa | apperopos of nothing I bring you - THE MIGHTY HYPNO-TOAD: http://i.imgur.com/RKLHR.jpg |
| 16:54.18 | jnwhiteh | hey Fisker |
| 16:54.18 | Fisker | nexus prime me? |
| 16:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | Ribbit, damn it. |
| 16:56.01 | Fisker | are those terms acceptable jnwhiteh ? |
| 16:56.13 | Cairenn | Lunessa: I'll see your hypno-toad and raise you a clown-frog! http://bit.ly/fsyLZc |
| 16:56.14 | jnwhiteh | I enjoy terms |
| 16:56.26 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 16:58.51 | Xubera | ill see both your toads and raise you a boot!! http://bit.ly/jJDqhj |
| 16:59.10 | Xubera | oops |
| 16:59.15 | Xubera | wrong img lol,. damn google |
| 16:59.27 | Xubera | oh well, you get it >.> |
| 16:59.35 | Torhal|work | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL9oQtJzGOI |
| 16:59.49 | Fisker | hey Torhal|work |
| 16:59.59 | Torhal|work | Yolanda |
| 17:00.06 | Xubera | lol, MEOW |
| 17:00.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:00.37 | Lunessa | Cairenn: WINNER! Clown-frog! |
| 17:00.53 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 17:00.59 | Torhal|work | Also, Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ghFf79veo |
| 17:01.03 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 17:01.31 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 17:01.54 | nicoli_s | awww poor camel |
| 17:02.21 | Fisker | hello kd3 |
| 17:02.27 | Fisker | what happened? |
| 17:02.30 | Fisker | scoreboard? |
| 17:02.45 | Xubera | i like this pug http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x73ETbDDsgU&feature=related |
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| 17:02.55 | kd3 | dunno; just got online a few seconds ago. I notice that wow's getting a new launcher atm |
| 17:02.58 | Fisker | i hate pugs |
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| 17:03.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 17:03.13 | jnwhiteh | i won't open wow until tomorrow |
| 17:03.15 | Torhal|work | kd3: It's patched to 4.2 |
| 17:03.20 | Fisker | hopefully you can realize from my smugness that the patch has arrived |
| 17:03.22 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:03.25 | kd3 | har |
| 17:03.26 | Torhal|work | v4.2.0.14333 |
| 17:03.28 | Xubera | but i think the patch notes are still on 4.1 |
| 17:03.32 | Xubera | atleast they are on my launcher |
| 17:03.44 | Cairenn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes |
| 17:03.52 | Fisker | the patch notes thingy in the launcher is very weird Xubera |
| 17:03.57 | Dewin | I'm hoping that either a) The servers are up and stable by 4 PST, or b) The servers are not up and not stable for long enough for us to cancel our raid so I can go play with my black temple raid deck I just got. |
| 17:04.02 | nicoli_s | Bugs Fixed, Bugs Introduces, fiery guys, the end |
| 17:04.10 | Fisker | hey nicoli_s |
| 17:04.13 | kd3 | dewin, don't bother raiding today. it's just not going to happen |
| 17:04.32 | Torhal|work | nicoli_s: Bugs FIxed, Bugs Introduced, fiery guys, and we nerfed your class again. |
| 17:04.33 | Dewin | kd3: I'm an officer in a raiding guild, I don't have much choice :-p |
| 17:04.40 | Lopeppeppy | Always give raiding a skip on patch day, it saves everyone the angst. |
| 17:04.41 | Fisker | change raiding days |
| 17:04.44 | nicoli_s | hey fisker |
| 17:04.48 | Fisker | hey nicoli_s |
| 17:05.20 | Dewin | Lopeppeppy: We typically play wait and see and if it's obviously not stable we either call really early or postpone to a specific time and then go from there or call early |
| 17:05.24 | Xubera | well if everyone skipped raiding on patch day, then we wouldnt know the current issues until the next day, delaying everyone else one day :x |
| 17:06.22 | Fisker | let the people who play from 11AM handle that Xubera |
| 17:06.46 | Dewin | I still remember raiding tempest keep the day patch 3.0 landed. |
| 17:06.58 | Torhal|work | o.O |
| 17:07.09 | Fisker | i remember raiding naxx the day patch 1.11(?) landed |
| 17:07.10 | Dewin | We hit a lag spike so long I joked about it being turn-based and we all /rolled for initiative |
| 17:07.19 | Fisker | we didn't joke about it |
| 17:07.20 | Fisker | we did it |
| 17:07.22 | Fisker | also back in BWL |
| 17:07.25 | Mr_Rabies | naxx was pretty buggy when the patch came out though |
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| 17:07.32 | Mr_Rabies | BWL was non-functional |
| 17:07.33 | kd3 | oh, geez. raiding naxx was an exercise in futility the first week |
| 17:07.35 | Torhal|work | Fisker: Did you raid uphill both ways? |
| 17:07.40 | Fisker | yus? |
| 17:07.42 | Dewin | I wasn't playing back when Naxx landed. I quit during the Naxx release event |
| 17:07.46 | Mr_Rabies | i raided bwl the night it came out |
| 17:08.05 | Fisker | kd3 i think we were hitting our heads against a wall for like a month after Naxx came out |
| 17:08.06 | Xubera | i was still playing Diablo2 when naxx came out |
| 17:08.10 | Mr_Rabies | it took a while for the first boss to not bug out and just blow up, hotfixing in realtime no doubt |
| 17:08.17 | Fisker | because the officers refused trying other bosses than anub'rekhan |
| 17:08.19 | Mr_Rabies | then the gate to vael didn't open |
| 17:08.23 | Lopeppeppy | We used to go to an old instance on patch nights - so we weren't beating ourselves against something challenging, could still get out and exercise addons if we wanted to, etc. |
| 17:08.49 | Fisker | as horde we used like several weeks on the damn razorgore encounter anyway :P |
| 17:09.04 | Fisker | especially with all the latency issues and stuff that were |
| 17:09.09 | kd3 | aw, not being able to DI razor sucked, eh? |
| 17:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | so guys, i'm completely out of the loop, what major changes are in 4.2 as far as addon stuff? any particular type of addon that's likely to break? |
| 17:09.16 | Fisker | yus |
| 17:09.28 | Fisker | combatlog addons are going to break again i believe |
| 17:09.34 | Mr_Rabies | i'm thinking bag addons are gonna be pretty bizarre with a missing keyring |
| 17:09.58 | Fisker | you will probably just be able to disable the module |
| 17:10.04 | Dewin | I don't think they'll break too terribly. |
| 17:10.22 | Mr_Rabies | i've still got some addons that don't like 4.1 |
| 17:10.32 | Dewin | since I believe the keyring is really just bag -1 or something |
| 17:10.45 | kd3 | bags'll be ok... any mods displaying the micro buttons will need to be updated. combatlog format changed again iirc |
| 17:10.48 | kd3 | thinks... |
| 17:10.56 | Lunessa | action bar replacements are going to be unhappy about the micro-menu changing. AI-ART will have some issues with stuff changing, that sort of thing |
| 17:11.08 | Mr_Rabies | i need to go through and audit my addons and see what hasn't been updated since before 4.1 and disable it |
| 17:11.16 | Mr_Rabies | and re-enable them one at a time |
| 17:11.17 | Dewin | Why would action bar replacements care, unless you mean fully replacing the menu bar? |
| 17:11.30 | Lunessa | Dewin: in one. |
| 17:11.34 | kd3 | isn't that typically what action bar replacements do? |
| 17:11.42 | Dewin | I don't even have the micromenu, just buttons |
| 17:11.52 | Mr_Rabies | because i've got something that locks up wow from time to time and i suspect it's probably a really old addon that died a few patches ago |
| 17:11.53 | Kraps_w | http://kotaku.com/5816092/sony-says-it-was-hacked-because-it-tried-to-protect-its-ip |
| 17:11.54 | Dewin | Everything else I get at via keybind or slash command |
| 17:13.50 | Dewin | ew, I hope my druid's done enough of the hyjal quests |
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| 17:14.10 | kd3 | if you did aessina's miracle and phased the inferno into the regrowth, you're good |
| 17:14.18 | *** join/#wowuidev JacobBeu (~Xubera@71-80-108-203.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com) |
| 17:14.21 | kd3 | if not, there's a tracking quest available from hero's call/warchief's command boards |
| 17:14.30 | kd3 | it'll show you which ancients' quests you still need to do |
| 17:14.40 | Mr_Rabies | i was talking in another channela about that yesterday |
| 17:14.48 | Mr_Rabies | i like the progressive quests but man is it an investment for alts |
| 17:14.55 | Dewin | I probably haven't, since I levelled via Vash since I knew ahead of time I'd want the ER stuff |
| 17:15.21 | Mr_Rabies | i wish they'd not tie every quest into the progressive questlines and seperate things into "main quests" and "side quests" |
| 17:15.23 | kd3 | just a few hours of questing iirc... you'll be spending far more time doing the dailies over and over for... 6 weeks? |
| 17:15.29 | Dewin | Mr_Rabies: Investment for alts? No, that's being 'forced' to do Therazane three times since those aren't BOA. |
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| 17:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | i think they are in 4.2, no? |
| 17:15.48 | Mr_Rabies | i don't mean just hyjal |
| 17:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | i mean in general |
| 17:15.58 | Mr_Rabies | you can't just take your alts out and do the fun quests now |
| 17:16.28 | Mr_Rabies | you have to start each zone from the beginning for the most part |
| 17:17.22 | Fisker | Kraps_w |
| 17:17.25 | Fisker | Translated |
| 17:17.28 | Fisker | BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW |
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| 17:17.42 | Kraps_w | i dont get it |
| 17:18.32 | Adys | http://juberti.blogspot.com/2011/06/google-talk-now-supports-xmpp-jingle.html sweet |
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| 17:22.02 | Dewin | So... so many sites now are "We're down for reason <X>. For more updates, follow us on Twitter." |
| 17:22.10 | Dewin | What does Twitter say when it's down? |
| 17:22.18 | Lopeppeppy | Fail whale fails. |
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| 17:25.04 | kd3 | emails away. off to class |
| 17:25.36 | mikma | dewin: "you can follow our status in facebook" |
| 17:26.17 | Lunessa | Heh, our official Twitter policy is not to fill our timeline with "X is down" |
| 17:28.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, our IT department doesn't tweet that stuff either. |
| 17:30.23 | Lunessa | We will if needed, but it's not really what we should be using Twitter for. |
| 17:31.27 | Lopeppeppy | How did I predict that the grand boss would skip out of the HR training today? How did I know that? *bangs head on desk* I hate this guy. |
| 17:35.25 | sylvanaar_work | lol cata is the deal of the day on amazon |
| 17:35.37 | sylvanaar_work | 19.99 |
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| 17:41.34 | Fisker | i lol'd kd3 |
| 17:43.40 | cog|work | FU AT&T |
| 17:44.34 | cog|work | "There are a lack of free copper pairs in the Sebastopol Central Office at the moment. We have an order in place, but this can take 2-3 months to get the delivered and get the service up and running. " |
| 17:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | And what do free copper pairs have to do with service? |
| 17:45.06 | cog|work | we need moar tubes |
| 17:45.20 | cog|work | but they don't have any to spare |
| 17:45.44 | Kraps_w | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 17:45.45 | cog|work | right now we're on 2 bonded T1s, for a whopping 3Mbps connection |
| 17:46.01 | cog|work | my boss wanted to go to 8, or fiber |
| 17:46.04 | Kraps_w | i got 2 mice delivered today /facepalm |
| 17:46.10 | cog|work | but there isn't fiber here yet |
| 17:46.15 | cog|work | and there isn't enough copper for the extra T1s |
| 17:46.46 | cog|work | Kraps_w: happy snake is happy? |
| 17:47.12 | Kraps_w | good guess cog|work but no |
| 17:47.23 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, please beat AT&T with your extra mouse. |
| 17:47.34 | Kraps_w | stupid UPS moar like |
| 17:48.46 | Adys | kd3: you know you can send emails through different gmail accounts from the same one |
| 17:49.31 | Adys | Oh this can't be good for adobe |
| 17:49.32 | Adys | http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/06/swiffy-convert-swf-files-to-html5.html |
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| 17:50.18 | Arrowmaster | Adys: i believe they put a Sender header on those emails though identifying the account that sent them |
| 17:50.49 | Dewin | Still wish gmail could transparently do a shared mailbox sort of deal |
| 17:51.14 | Fisker | Adys |
| 17:51.15 | Arrowmaster | well now you can login to multiple accounts at once its not that bad |
| 17:51.19 | Fisker | some people shouldn't have a job |
| 17:51.20 | Kraps_w | google buzz lololololo |
| 17:51.21 | Dewin | Arrowmaster: Not quite like that. |
| 17:51.28 | Fisker | i just ran across a webshop |
| 17:51.37 | Dewin | I have an email address that actually sends to two different email addresses. I want responses from either account to be visible to both. |
| 17:51.38 | Fisker | and their payment system is suspiciously http |
| 17:51.44 | Fisker | i fire up my websniffer |
| 17:51.44 | Adys | yeah, multiple sign on is awesome |
| 17:51.44 | Arrowmaster | well it used to be bad when i had 4 accounts and couldnt login to them all at once |
| 17:51.48 | Fisker | enter false cc info |
| 17:51.52 | Dewin | Only one of the email addresses is mine. |
| 17:51.55 | Fisker | read it in plaintext |
| 17:51.58 | Fisker | ??? |
| 17:51.59 | Fisker | profit |
| 17:52.22 | Fisker | the funny part is that they claim it's secure |
| 17:52.30 | Adys | Fisker: which webshop? |
| 17:52.33 | Fisker | but they first send the information unencrypted over the link |
| 17:52.34 | Fisker | some danish one |
| 17:52.44 | Fisker | then they have a script send it to their payment gateway using https |
| 17:52.45 | Fisker | derps |
| 17:53.11 | Adys | if they implement shit like visa and what not, they're breaking some laws i believe |
| 17:53.18 | Arrowmaster | report them to their cc processor and get their access revoked |
| 17:53.18 | Fisker | indeed |
| 17:53.20 | Adys | or was that just in the us |
| 17:53.32 | Fisker | great idea |
| 17:53.49 | Fisker | at the very least they're most likely breaking the terms of their cc processor |
| 17:54.01 | Arrowmaster | not sure if its a law but i know they have to agree to certain standards to get access to the cc procesors |
| 17:54.04 | Adys | in the uk you're not authorized to implement visa without implementing card passwords and some other optional features like these |
| 17:54.51 | karl_w_w | why would they even do that |
| 17:55.01 | karl_w_w | its not something you do by accident |
| 17:55.07 | Adys | ? |
| 17:55.13 | Adys | Arrowmaster: if you break the terms of your contract with visa, you're still bound by law |
| 17:55.37 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 17:55.38 | Adys | actually ive no idea how this is called in english |
| 17:55.39 | karl_w_w | civil law |
| 17:55.40 | Adys | banks have it easy |
| 17:55.47 | Arrowmaster | contract law |
| 17:56.19 | Arrowmaster | its been a while since i took business law |
| 18:01.30 | Dewin | hey, somebody probably already said something, but realms are coming up |
| 18:03.10 | Dewin | and our server MOTD still says "Welcome to patch 4.1!" lol |
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| 18:05.44 | Maldivia | hmm, there were changes to the combat log event this patch, right? |
| 18:05.55 | Lunessa | Yes |
| 18:07.05 | Fisker | hoho |
| 18:07.10 | Fisker | notified the cc gateway |
| 18:07.28 | Fisker | it's like trolling, but in reverse |
| 18:08.04 | Alram | you mean |
| 18:08.06 | Alram | reverse trolling? |
| 18:08.11 | Alram | counter trolling? |
| 18:08.13 | Dewin | I just 'fell to my death' in flight form while on the ground. >.> |
| 18:08.37 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
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| 18:13.23 | Fisker | idk Alram |
| 18:13.30 | Fisker | but Alram is not our Alram |
| 18:13.39 | Fisker | Nexus Prime is going to rape the Galaxy S2 btw |
| 18:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker. Out of bounds. |
| 18:13.54 | jnwhiteh | how. |
| 18:13.55 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2fa7050006f2d2538a84b87e56d58c75.png |
| 18:13.57 | jnwhiteh | just. how. |
| 18:14.09 | Fisker | why u hon jnwhiteh ? |
| 18:14.32 | Alram | by the time Nexus Prime is released im going to need a new phone anyways |
| 18:14.33 | Alram | lol |
| 18:14.38 | jnwhiteh | cause I super enjoy HoN |
| 18:14.41 | jnwhiteh | I don't know why |
| 18:15.25 | mikma | how what, should a non-hon understand something in that picture? |
| 18:15.43 | jnwhiteh | mikma: look at the guy on my team who had 17 deaths |
| 18:15.44 | jnwhiteh | and cry. |
| 18:15.55 | Fisker | then y u diss my Optimus 2X Alram ? |
| 18:16.20 | mikma | jnwhiteh: should the game balance the teams a bit or? |
| 18:16.24 | jnwhiteh | it does |
| 18:16.31 | mikma | and that's balance? yikes |
| 18:16.38 | jnwhiteh | no, |
| 18:16.39 | jnwhiteh | its an idiot. |
| 18:17.05 | mikma | i think all of you are gonna get buttsexed really soon |
| 18:17.25 | Fisker | it does game balance in-game? |
| 18:17.35 | jnwhiteh | yo dawg |
| 18:17.40 | Alram | because its crap |
| 18:17.49 | Fisker | no u Alram |
| 18:17.50 | Fisker | its awesome |
| 18:18.01 | Fisker | best phone at its time |
| 18:18.03 | Alram | oh ok |
| 18:18.08 | Alram | at its time |
| 18:18.08 | Alram | ye |
| 18:18.11 | Fisker | exactly |
| 18:18.19 | Fisker | so your Galaxy S2 sucks compared to the Nexus Prime |
| 18:18.26 | Alram | well tbh |
| 18:18.30 | Alram | nexus s was just galaxy s |
| 18:18.41 | Alram | so nexus prime will probably be very similar to galaxy s II |
| 18:18.44 | Fisker | naw |
| 18:18.58 | Fisker | it'll be a true successor to the Nexus One |
| 18:19.31 | Alram | http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Nexus_Prime ??? |
| 18:19.41 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:19.50 | Fisker | just like my eee pad transformer |
| 18:20.02 | Fisker | btw |
| 18:20.11 | Fisker | why isn't tastosis hosting my damn GSL? |
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| 18:32.26 | cog|work | <3 Notch's review of DNF |
| 18:35.13 | zenzelezz | so we finally upgraded our live server from Debian something-old to Ubuntu Server recent... modern PHP and everything. But one of our sites is spitting an error from the Zend Framework. Investigation shows... that we're using ZF 1.0.3 x.x |
| 18:35.44 | zenzelezz | if the date in the Version.php file is to be believed, it's from 2007. I wonder what the people at my company were doing before I started working here |
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| 18:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | Eating bon bons and watching movies? |
| 18:38.01 | Fisker | what does it say cog|work ? |
| 18:38.15 | zenzelezz | oh dear lord, they have Norwegian language stuff here... that's just wrong |
| 18:38.16 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Sounds delightful. |
| 18:38.20 | cog|work | Fisker: "Don't play it" |
| 18:38.26 | Fisker | fucking dick |
| 18:38.41 | cog|work | as opposed to cake-making dick? |
| 18:39.53 | Fisker | maybe? |
| 18:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I wish, Lunessa. |
| 18:41.03 | cog|work | je veux des bonbons! |
| 18:42.01 | Fisker | i farted cog|work |
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| 18:45.19 | Lopeppeppy | Vous ne pouvez pas avoir bon bons. Jamais! |
| 18:45.53 | cog|work | Quel dommage! |
| 18:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | Zut alors, I have missed one. |
| 18:47.01 | Fisker | sechs cog|work |
| 18:49.42 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/06/revisiting-zork-what-we-lost-in-the-transition-to-visual-games/241074/ |
| 18:49.55 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.00 | Nechckn | would accept any stray bon bons, btw. =) |
| 18:50.17 | Nechckn | Especially were they to arrive in the delicate hand of Lopeppeppy |
| 18:50.23 | Nechckn | woofs! |
| 18:50.36 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. I am a delicate f'ing flower, for sure. |
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| 18:56.16 | Jamash | sup brah |
| 18:58.45 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: I may be going out on a limb here, but I'd say that the code is trying to call a function strreplace, which does not actually exist |
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| 19:05.06 | TC-Laptop | amazons gold box deal of the day is Cata |
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| 19:05.32 | Nechckn | Now only $2.99! |
| 19:05.49 | Nechckn | j/k, j/k... but eesh, that is all it should be by now. |
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| 19:06.50 | Fisker | Nechckn |
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| 19:07.06 | Fisker | they should just re-release the game as Cataclysm |
| 19:07.17 | Fisker | ~$15.99 or something |
| 19:07.24 | Fisker | since that's the price of a month anyway |
| 19:07.27 | Fisker | which you get for free |
| 19:08.02 | Nechckn | BAH! That would make sense, though, silly Fisker. |
| 19:08.03 | Fisker | i'm not sure why Blizzard didn't just do that |
| 19:08.08 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:08.14 | Nechckn | And it is a dandy idea, btw! |
| 19:08.29 | Nechckn | scratches Fisker behind the ears. |
| 19:08.29 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/lk.jpg |
| 19:09.00 | Fisker | i don't get it foxlit |
| 19:09.09 | Fisker | did they fuck up the throne model? |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker | or ice stone has melted? |
| 19:12.34 | foxlit | It's Zul'Drak |
| 19:12.43 | Adys | kd3: god fking damn it. |
| 19:12.50 | Adys | I have to suffer through a bunch of new directories. |
| 19:12.50 | kd3|netbook | ? |
| 19:12.58 | kd3|netbook | oh, yup |
| 19:12.58 | Adys | enTW, what is this crap |
| 19:13.04 | kd3|netbook | wait, what? |
| 19:13.17 | Adys | wget http://ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net/wow-pod/ptr/direct/base.12911.4.0.0/Data/enTW/wow-update-enTW-14288.MPQ -O /home/adys/patches/new/base.12911.4.0.0/Data/enTW/wow-update-enTW-14288.MPQ |
| 19:13.32 | kd3|netbook | wth |
| 19:13.41 | Adys | is it engrish? |
| 19:14.15 | Fisker | oh foxlit |
| 19:14.20 | Fisker | then i don't care foxlit ? |
| 19:14.34 | Fisker | naw Adys |
| 19:14.37 | Adys | DAMN IT |
| 19:14.37 | Fisker | TW in english locales |
| 19:14.38 | Fisker | btw |
| 19:14.50 | Adys | 93% [=================================================================================================================================================> ] 196,792,629 5.05M/s eta 2s ^C |
| 19:14.55 | Adys | tip: dont scroll down with ctrl-c |
| 19:14.59 | Fisker | ^C ftw |
| 19:15.13 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 19:15.19 | Fisker | i'm sure you can survive the 40 seconds it takes you to redownload it |
| 19:15.25 | Fisker | btw hello kd3|netbook |
| 19:15.33 | kd3|netbook | 'lo |
| 19:16.01 | Adys | Fisker: 30-ish. |
| 19:16.03 | Adys | but still. |
| 19:18.34 | foxlit | serves you right for using something that can't resume |
| 19:18.49 | kd3|netbook | wget -c yay |
| 19:18.53 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:18.56 | Adys | hm |
| 19:19.05 | Adys | foxlit: wget can resume |
| 19:19.23 | Adys | whats odd is speed keeps going all the way up to 5-6mbps and then right down to 1.8-2.0 mbps |
| 19:19.49 | Adys | is akamai really getting hit that bad from patchday? |
| 19:20.26 | kd3|netbook | I'm throwing all of my ~150K/s at it. I know that's gotta count for something... |
| 19:20.27 | kd3|netbook | >.< |
| 19:22.52 | Adys | kd3|netbook: ssh from here to home |
| 19:23.01 | Adys | its the only way i can stay sane with this shit speed here in athens |
| 19:23.14 | kd3|netbook | yeowch |
| 19:23.32 | foxlit | gr, a bugged guardian |
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| 19:26.14 | mckenziemc | ~wowalert |
| 19:26.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:26.34 | Kraps_w | Adys: so hows the rioting |
| 19:26.37 | Dewin | This is really not good. I had some computer issues and now half of my WoW setup reverted to defaults. |
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| 19:27.03 | kapowaz | zomgbuffs users: how can I force zomg to learn a self-buff? |
| 19:27.07 | kapowaz | it isn't auto learning, I think |
| 19:27.35 | AcidWeb | Dewin: WoW eat settings sometimes. Just use one of your backups. |
| 19:27.37 | Adys | Kraps: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/264903_10150209173106498_689751497_7728261_6753419_n.jpg |
| 19:27.41 | Adys | thats 2 blocks from home |
| 19:27.54 | Dewin | Acid: Yeah, my backup is 2 months old... and half of my addons reset to default settings too, which is really odd. |
| 19:28.07 | AcidWeb | Heh. No is not. |
| 19:28.23 | Dewin | I don't think it was WoW, because curse also lost its configuration and it was at the same time as a raid controller failure -- but the drive WoW is on is not part of that RAID. |
| 19:28.51 | AcidWeb | I would not say that is common but really happens sometimes. |
| 19:29.26 | Dewin | (And I have lots of other random corruption I'm discovering too) |
| 19:29.45 | olafski | is anyone noticing some kind of bug with keystones in archaeology? |
| 19:29.55 | Jamash | Dewin: where is wow installed to? |
| 19:30.02 | Dewin | my SSD |
| 19:30.10 | Jamash | so, not on C: |
| 19:30.13 | Fisker | Adys |
| 19:30.13 | Dewin | The SSD is C: |
| 19:30.18 | AcidWeb | lua fies in WTF directory are overwritten by random crap? |
| 19:30.20 | Fisker | enjoy cheese in greece? |
| 19:30.26 | Adys | Meh. |
| 19:30.38 | Jamash | and which was the raid drive? |
| 19:31.02 | Dewin | D:\, which was a RAID 5 array that didn't fully fail since just one drive 'supposedly' did (though the reality is the raid itself is flaky) |
| 19:31.15 | Jamash | hardware raid is bad news |
| 19:31.43 | Dewin | well, option 2 is 1TB drives which seem to have extremely high failure rates. :-/ |
| 19:31.47 | Alram | hows the feta cheese Adys |
| 19:31.57 | Adys | funny |
| 19:32.01 | Dewin | for some reason I figured Intel's fakeraid would be less crappy than nvidia's fakeraid. I clearly was mistaken. |
| 19:32.15 | Jamash | "oh hey you know all your dataz? if your raid controller fails, you need an exact same replacement or your dataz are gone" |
| 19:32.38 | Jamash | whereas software raid at least you know what format the raidification uses |
| 19:32.40 | Dewin | Jamash: I actually have some faith in raid2raid |
| 19:32.57 | Lunessa | See, in someways my "omg drive space is so limited" habits from 80s and 90s computing still serves me well. I don't have RAID set up on my devices and I husband space like that shit was gold. |
| 19:33.12 | Jamash | you're married to your free space? |
| 19:33.14 | olafski | I'm solving projects with keystones but the keystones aren't removed from my bags :o |
| 19:34.08 | Jamash | http://backdrift.org/hardware-vs-software-raid-in-the-real-world-2 |
| 19:34.08 | Dewin | The one catch is that I actually run WoW from D:\WoW, but it's an NTFS junction to the SSD so nothing actually exists on D: |
| 19:34.22 | Jamash | O_o |
| 19:34.22 | Alram | you did not answer my question Adys |
| 19:34.35 | Jamash | is it a junction or a symlink? |
| 19:34.36 | Adys | i really dont care |
| 19:34.41 | Lunessa | Jamash: No, I just have lots of drives for dedicated purposes and and don't spend space on stuff I don't care about much. |
| 19:35.06 | Dewin | Jamash: junction |
| 19:35.11 | Dewin | D:\WoW = C:\FromD\WoW |
| 19:35.18 | Alram | you are a horrible person Adys |
| 19:35.24 | Alram | but not as bad as Fisker |
| 19:35.37 | Jamash | ntfs symlink > ntfs junction |
| 19:36.30 | Dewin | I recall there being some reason directory symlinks didn't work, though it's escaped me now. |
| 19:36.36 | Jamash | they do now |
| 19:36.52 | Jamash | if you're on vista or 7 at least |
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| 19:37.30 | mckenziemc | installs Windows ME on Jamash's work computer |
| 19:37.34 | Dewin | Care to give me a technical explanation as to why one is better than the other? I ask out of curiosity. |
| 19:38.19 | Jamash | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/NTFS_junction_point#Windows_Explorer <--- bad news |
| 19:38.59 | Dewin | "Deleting a junction point using Explorer is now safe." |
| 19:39.41 | Jamash | derp |
| 19:41.25 | Jamash | Iunno then |
| 19:41.34 | Fisker | tsk Shirik |
| 19:41.38 | Fisker | y u so insecure wikipedia? |
| 19:42.16 | mckenziemc | jamash quoted the section under windows 2000/xp/2003, dewin quoted the part under windows vista/7 |
| 19:42.22 | Nechckn | Have not seen the whole thing - but find using http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html works just great and use it to manipulate the Junctions and such - just to avoid any possible "Oh.No!"s |
| 19:42.32 | mckenziemc | hence 12:36:53 PM) Jamash: if you're on vista or 7 at least |
| 19:42.57 | Dewin | I used to use that, but mklink is built into the OS now so I didn't bother reinstalling it |
| 19:43.37 | Nechckn | *Did not read the entire conversation, but find that to be rather dandy and have never had an issue. True, about the OS inclusion, but it felt a bit wonky to me. |
| 19:43.41 | Dewin | I used to dabble with a great deal of both -- I had a way of cloning my WoW install to basically have separate WTF/Interface folders but share everything else. |
| 19:44.09 | Dewin | I usually used it when trying entire UI overhauls without wanting to break my live setup until I was done |
| 19:44.31 | Jamash | I used to have my D: drive junctioned to C:\Media and I found that the recycle bin completely failed to work for files under C:\Media |
| 19:44.36 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link |
| 19:44.53 | Fisker | anyway the big issue was that in XP it didn't support symbolic links at all |
| 19:44.54 | mckenziemc | old Fisker |
| 19:45.02 | Jamash | ^ |
| 19:45.34 | olafski | hmm.. windows has working symlinks for directories now? :o cool, now I can use that to tag my music :D |
| 19:45.48 | Dewin | well, it had junctions too. |
| 19:46.20 | olafski | whatever it's called, last time I checked it didn't work well for directories |
| 19:46.32 | Fisker | directories was what worked fine |
| 19:46.44 | Adys | its had symlinks since vista |
| 19:46.54 | Adys | but it doesnt have any gui or anything for it |
| 19:47.10 | Fisker | mklink is a gui! |
| 19:47.25 | olafski | hm |
| 19:47.26 | Fisker | well not so much g |
| 19:47.40 | olafski | oh well my fileserver is still running xp anyway.. and I'm probably too lazy to look into a good way to do this :P |
| 19:47.55 | Fisker | junction points don't work over network shares |
| 19:47.58 | Fisker | so that could be your issue |
| 19:48.12 | Nechckn | Yeah, that was the old issue. |
| 19:48.23 | Fisker | junction points still don't support it |
| 19:48.27 | Fisker | now you can just use symbolic links though |
| 19:48.35 | Nechckn | And where most folks ran into trouble - at least most I ran into. |
| 19:49.02 | Dewin | Well, I figured out where all my settings went |
| 19:49.26 | Dewin | config.wtf corrupted, and only config.wtf. Which reset all the synchronize* settings back to the default of yes, and I proceeded to download a 2-year-old configuration from the server on login. |
| 19:49.40 | Dewin | good thing I only logged in one character. |
| 19:49.43 | Nechckn | ouch |
| 19:49.50 | mckenziemc | windows explorer still has at least one issue with symlinks -- if you copy a directory tree containing a broken symlink, explorer will hang once it reaches the link |
| 19:49.50 | Nechckn | How thoughtful of them |
| 19:50.03 | olafski | fisker: hm yeah I guess that was the thing then.. I wanted symlinks on files or something |
| 19:50.40 | karl_w_w | I've wanted explorer to hang for a while now |
| 19:50.47 | mckenziemc | wut |
| 19:50.54 | Jamash | it looks like the recycle bin issues are also fixed in 7 |
| 19:50.55 | Fisker | i once hanged your mom karl_w_w |
| 19:51.07 | karl_w_w | nar |
| 19:51.15 | olafski | and I use total commander so ideally I can copy a file from left to right and have an option "copy as link" or something :P |
| 19:51.37 | karl_w_w | zenzelezz: http://www.wowpedia.org/API_gsub |
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| 19:51.47 | Fisker | people still use that ancient piece of shit? |
| 19:51.57 | Nechckn | Fisker likes him some auto-erotic asphyxiation! |
| 19:51.57 | Jamash | I just put a subdirectory in the recycle bin via a direction symlink and a junction point and they both worked |
| 19:52.04 | Jamash | s/direction/directory/ |
| 19:52.10 | sylvanaar_work | ill give him the last part |
| 19:53.02 | Jamash | GUYS |
| 19:53.09 | Jamash | I'm reordering my characters on the login screen |
| 19:53.18 | olafski | by ancient pos I assume you meant string.gsub, fisker ;) |
| 19:53.32 | Fisker | k |
| 19:53.38 | kd3|netbook | grats jamash; only look blizz... entirely too many years? |
| 19:53.53 | olafski | ah yes.. 4.2's "look guys we do listen to the community" useless features :) |
| 19:53.53 | Jamash | all they needed was "sort descending by level" imo |
| 19:53.54 | olafski | -s |
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| 19:55.17 | olafski | now for the next 2 months when people qq they can say "don't cry, we gave you character reordering" |
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| 19:55.23 | Fisker | all they needed was to not change the order of my characters Jamash |
| 19:55.45 | olafski | checked again.. my keystones really aren't being removed from the bags.. odd stuff |
| 19:55.58 | olafski | that be true fisker |
| 19:56.08 | olafski | I switched to horde 2 days ago, which put my char at the bottom of the list |
| 19:56.24 | olafski | took about 1 day to get used to though so I still won't be using that reordering stuff :P |
| 19:56.44 | karl_w_w | tomorrow's hotfixes: "- Reordering your characters on the character selection screen will no longer randomly cause the to disappear forever" |
| 19:56.57 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 19:56.58 | Jamash | my DK was at the bottom of the list from day 1 wrath to when I made my goblin rogue |
| 19:57.00 | olafski | karl_w_w: :D |
| 19:57.13 | Jamash | I like that I can move him up with the other 85s |
| 19:57.23 | olafski | psh |
| 19:57.26 | olafski | I don't have any non 85s |
| 19:57.33 | olafski | unfortunately :( |
| 19:57.37 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:57.39 | Jamash | cry, solo robot |
| 19:57.43 | foxlit | 75s are where it's at, anyway |
| 19:57.45 | karl_w_w | i have about 15 toons |
| 19:57.50 | karl_w_w | and 2 85s |
| 19:57.50 | TMc51 | has 48 non 85s. |
| 19:57.51 | foxlit | all the tradeskills, none of the Deepholm. |
| 19:58.00 | Jamash | where the hell does "toon" come from |
| 19:58.06 | Jamash | are we playing toontown online? |
| 19:58.08 | karl_w_w | cartoon! |
| 19:58.18 | Jamash | my characters are not cartoons |
| 19:58.35 | karl_w_w | look again |
| 19:58.45 | olafski | what be a solo robot :< |
| 19:58.47 | Jamash | 3D ~= cartoon |
| 19:58.56 | Fisker | olafski some point a long time ago they reordered the character list |
| 19:59.02 | olafski | I know fisker |
| 19:59.11 | olafski | still, that takes at most a week to get used to |
| 19:59.21 | Fisker | fuck that |
| 19:59.22 | Jamash | olafski: http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=cool+story+bro&t=1000&a=n |
| 19:59.40 | olafski | if they want to provide a useful feature, they should let us buy more character slots.. I'd gladly pay 10-20 euro for that |
| 19:59.48 | Jamash | per month? |
| 20:00.05 | mckenziemc | olafksi: already exists |
| 20:00.11 | mckenziemc | $15/mo |
| 20:00.19 | Jamash | ^ |
| 20:00.33 | olafski | no, just once |
| 20:00.39 | olafski | I don't want another account.. so much hassle |
| 20:01.02 | Jamash | olafski: I actually agree, but I be trollin' |
| 20:01.17 | olafski | I think over time I'd probably be buying about 10 extra slots that way :P |
| 20:01.20 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z8UcgtxxNY&hd=1 |
| 20:01.36 | olafski | surely it can't be that hard to implement.. and I doubt it'd be a huge hit on the database as they seem to want us to believe |
| 20:01.38 | Ackis | is there a boss in firelands that drops loot like the 4 winds instance? |
| 20:01.51 | mckenziemc | i wish my accs shared a common pool of chars so i could log onto any 2 at the same time : / |
| 20:01.52 | Ackis | e.g. random enchants? |
| 20:02.11 | Jamash | wtf did they think would happen when they filled a flammable balloon with flammable gas |
| 20:02.20 | karl_w_w | i think so ackis, or maybe they are shared drops |
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| 20:02.37 | nomulous | So what's the 4.2 ToC? |
| 20:02.40 | karl_w_w | but i definitely saw at least 1 random enchant piece on a loot list |
| 20:02.47 | Dewin | my wild guess is 40200 |
| 20:02.51 | Jamash | 40200 |
| 20:02.53 | mckenziemc | 40200 |
| 20:02.59 | nomulous | Thanks. |
| 20:03.10 | nomulous | Someone should change the topic though |
| 20:03.23 | karl_w_w | that's a lie |
| 20:03.30 | Jamash | GetBuildInfo returns { "4.2.0", "14333", "Jun 22 2011", 40200 } |
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| 20:03.49 | mckenziemc | changes the topic to Fisker's socks |
| 20:03.51 | Ackis | karl_w_w: just found one at least: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/71011/flickering-cowl/ |
| 20:03.51 | Ackis | no belts though |
| 20:04.04 | Jamash | Ackis: I read that as "Flickering Cow" |
| 20:04.16 | Ackis | moo |
| 20:05.04 | farmbuyer | That's the next noncombat pet from the blizzard store. |
| 20:05.12 | farmbuyer | Flickering Cow, $US15 |
| 20:05.20 | Jamash | btw, /console checkAddonVersion 0 |
| 20:06.32 | karl_w_w | dont tell me, that makes it so you dont have to click the box after every patch? |
| 20:06.40 | mikma | jnwhiteh + wobin + haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAClgbD8Y1c&hd=1 |
| 20:07.20 | Jamash | karl_w_w: not exactly, it's just handy to run if you log in without checking the box and cba to log out and in |
| 20:07.31 | karl_w_w | ah |
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| 20:10.33 | Jamash | time to save captain planet^Wthrall |
| 20:11.49 | olafski | I think your delete word thing got sent literally there oO |
| 20:13.15 | mckenziemc | i'm guessing that was the intent |
| 20:13.22 | olafski | (trolling is a art) |
| 20:14.57 | Jamash | MAH KEYS |
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| 20:16.39 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBSQ5Zz18xg&hd=1 |
| 20:16.42 | mikma | oh shi- |
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| 20:18.28 | Lunessa | mikma: That's a pants-staining moment right there. |
| 20:19.59 | Kaelten | Lunessa: so you coming to the party then? |
| 20:20.20 | Lunessa | Oh hells yeah. Better bring my drinking hat. |
| 20:21.33 | Kaelten | absolutely man, the open bar this year is going to be more than double last years |
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| 20:22.00 | Jamash | I like how you can see the "WTF" when he looks at the steering gizmo even though his helmet is shut |
| 20:22.44 | Jamash | like "seriously?" |
| 20:24.00 | Ackis | Kaelten: you better make it triple... I'm coming and I'm Canadian! :P |
| 20:24.19 | Kaelten | you better Ackis :) |
| 20:24.34 | Lunessa | Kaelten: Rock on. I'm down to party and drink until I can't see. |
| 20:25.04 | Kaelten | All authors are invited, so if anyone's going to be at blizzcon or even just been in the area that night let me know and I'll get you an invite :) |
| 20:25.43 | Lunessa | I got passed one via cog|work on FB. |
| 20:26.00 | kd3|netbook | yay. app tabs are <3 in fx5 |
| 20:26.24 | kd3|netbook | also, ooh, blizzcon goodies again this year? |
| 20:26.59 | olafski | I'd like to go to blizzcon sometime.. |
| 20:27.03 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 20:27.09 | TMc51 | same here |
| 20:27.40 | kd3|netbook | it's a lot of fun. especially drinking on curse's dime |
| 20:27.48 | kd3|netbook | "yah, you won't hit our cap" |
| 20:27.50 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 20:27.53 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 20:27.58 | farmbuyer | Someday I will get out to that half of the country at the same time as blizzcon. |
| 20:28.16 | TMc51 | I'm Irish and certainly drink like it. =P |
| 20:28.50 | olafski | I'm dutch and I don't know how "we" drink.. but I probably don't :P |
| 20:28.54 | Adys | sylvanaar: next year we might be doing an europe group trip |
| 20:28.55 | olafski | I also don't mind paying for my drinks :>L |
| 20:28.58 | Adys | which country are you in? |
| 20:29.02 | sylvanaar | us |
| 20:29.05 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 20:29.07 | Adys | well quit whining. |
| 20:29.16 | sylvanaar | im on the east coast |
| 20:29.20 | Adys | crybaby. |
| 20:29.22 | kd3|netbook | and? I live in atlanta |
| 20:29.37 | sylvanaar | we should make blizcon east |
| 20:29.42 | kd3|netbook | I budget for the ~$1000 expenditure every year, even if I'm not always the one paying for it |
| 20:29.58 | TMc51 | sylvanaar: I agree. right coast > wrong coast |
| 20:30.06 | Adys | kd3's idea of "budgeting": buying a knife and threatening someone's family to pay for it. |
| 20:30.17 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 20:30.49 | Adys | really any of you americans whining about being on the other side of the US are spoiled :P |
| 20:31.04 | Alram | can i go with you next year Adys |
| 20:31.05 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 20:31.40 | Nechckn | Adys It is a big place... but, when compared to the distance for the Euro-types, yeah. |
| 20:31.41 | olafski | :P |
| 20:31.45 | Adys | Alram: if this is a serious question, the answer is yes as long as you can get your ass to heathrow |
| 20:31.52 | TMc51 | Adys: How so? Our country is practically the size of Euroland. =P |
| 20:32.09 | olafski | even if it wasn't so far away, I'd probably still not go due to my aversion to groups (e.g. >3) of people and lazyness :) |
| 20:32.38 | Adys | TMc51: are you bad at geography or just maths? europeans have to do three times your travel, and you guys dont have to cross country borders :P |
| 20:32.45 | Nechckn | olafski but it is a whole convention of people who feel exactly that same way. |
| 20:32.53 | farmbuyer | It's not that the other coast is *far* from here, it's just pricey to get there in less than a week. :) |
| 20:32.59 | TMc51 | Adys: I failed hard at math. =P |
| 20:33.12 | olafski | nechckn: how can that be any good :P |
| 20:33.26 | Adys | also tbh |
| 20:33.32 | Nechckn | I have no idea, but it sure is popular. |
| 20:33.33 | Adys | the voyage itself isnt the most expensive part |
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| 20:33.45 | Adys | misses having a paid-for room |
| 20:34.01 | Nechckn | Just dorm up with some other folks |
| 20:34.12 | olafski | nechckn: yeah.. I like seeing all the info but I think I'll stick with mmo-c.. come to think of it there's not really anything there that I can't get online ;) |
| 20:34.27 | Nechckn | Ha.. quite true. |
| 20:34.34 | Nechckn | Even the booze can be ordered in, now! |
| 20:34.40 | olafski | :P |
| 20:34.44 | olafski | I can get that in a liquor store |
| 20:34.48 | olafski | but I don't really drink much anyway |
| 20:35.06 | olafski | my stomach turns inside out if I take even a sip of something stronger than beer |
| 20:35.11 | Adys | olafski: tbh blizzcon overall is a huge disappointment over the WWI in paris |
| 20:35.19 | Adys | and that was 3 times less invitees |
| 20:35.30 | TMc51 | olafski: Opposite of me. I get sick from beer, and yet drink hard liquor like water. |
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| 20:36.18 | Adys | sighs |
| 20:36.40 | Nechckn | I still do not understand why the fans do not just make their own and do it East Coast US and Europe. They would be just as big, if not more. The info is usually sort of 'meh' at least to me - it is the hanging out with like-minded folks. |
| 20:37.00 | Adys | Nechckn: ill give it a shot |
| 20:37.05 | Adys | because its hugely fucking expensive? :P |
| 20:37.11 | Jamash | playing diablo III > hanging out |
| 20:37.13 | cog|work | the pro-gaming is pretty big too |
| 20:37.18 | Jamash | if you want to hang out, go to PAX |
| 20:37.41 | Adys | and if its not supported officially by blizzard.. i just dont see it |
| 20:37.45 | Nechckn | Adys - you could rent a convention center and cover the costs just as easy as they do. |
| 20:38.01 | Adys | 70% of the activities involve blizzard officials |
| 20:38.23 | Adys | new info, trailers, playing unreleased games, official blizzard contests |
| 20:38.23 | Adys | etc |
| 20:38.33 | Nechckn | Hell, just do like GamerCon East or whatever and invite whatever companies you want. |
| 20:38.39 | Adys | not even to mention the panels and the concert |
| 20:39.20 | Adys | Google+ privlaunched, and the black navbar released widely. What is it with Google and that black navbar |
| 20:39.31 | Nechckn | Adys But, as olafski noted, you can get that online - other than the unreleased game stuff. |
| 20:39.52 | olafski | black navbar? oO |
| 20:40.08 | Adys | Nechckn: Welcome to BlizzfanCon; we'll stream live a twitter chat with ghostcrawler on the big screen? |
| 20:40.10 | Nechckn | Again, just saying... sure it would be different, but still 'fun' |
| 20:40.41 | Adys | if you're not supported by blizzard people wont be interested |
| 20:40.48 | Maldivia | I'm offended by google at the moment... they think I'm Swedish! |
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| 20:40.56 | olafski | I have noticed a black bar at the bottom of some websites.. is that it? :s |
| 20:40.57 | Nechckn | If you had double the people coming to an event and invited all of the "big" developers, they would come and provide some sort of "news". |
| 20:41.00 | Adys | Maldivia: blogger thinks im greek, its pissing me off |
| 20:41.02 | Adys | olafski: no, sec |
| 20:41.21 | olafski | hm, I wonder what that was then :P looked like a rendering error to me, I usually just close the tab when it happens =) |
| 20:41.24 | Adys | olafski: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/06/googles-experimental-black-navigation.html |
| 20:41.24 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/06/youtube-tests-black-player.html |
| 20:41.47 | Adys | Nechckn: I doubt it |
| 20:41.52 | Adys | it would devalue blizzcon |
| 20:42.00 | Adys | blizzard wouldnt let their employees do that |
| 20:42.19 | Ackis | so if I'm socially inept and awkward how will I fit in at the Curse party? |
| 20:42.28 | olafski | oh wow that looks.. so useful adys ;) |
| 20:42.42 | olafski | a smaller progress bar, just like windows media player has in fullscreen, which you can barely click :< |
| 20:42.43 | Maldivia | Adys: half the time I get the black bar, half the time I get the white bar |
| 20:42.49 | Nechckn | They would be silly not to participate at some level, if there was a huge group of folks who are hardcore fans, who simply do not have the funds to travel trans/intercontinental. |
| 20:42.56 | Adys | Maldivia: im just glad i dont get the old bar |
| 20:43.02 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:43.04 | Maldivia | ohh yeah |
| 20:43.09 | Adys | olafski: the navbar = first link |
| 20:43.24 | Nechckn | But, no matter to me - no stock in Blizz or Activision. =) |
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| 20:44.19 | Fisker | omg Adys google = racists |
| 20:44.32 | Adys | i really want to know what the reasoning is behind such an out-of-theme navbar |
| 20:44.55 | mckenziemc | it's a psychology experiment |
| 20:45.38 | kd3|netbook | whee at the infodumping coming from notch/jeb today |
| 20:45.47 | kd3|netbook | 4.2 today, 1.7 on thursday |
| 20:45.54 | kd3|netbook | who needs sleep? |
| 20:46.08 | Adys | infodump? there was barely anything new |
| 20:46.12 | Adys | unless you mean in the last hour |
| 20:46.35 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 20:46.38 | Fisker | i just lold |
| 20:46.45 | Fisker | someone called search results objective |
| 20:47.11 | Adys | um |
| 20:47.29 | Maldivia | Adys: wasn't the black bar used as offline mode in one of their apps? |
| 20:47.52 | Adys | No idea, i never used gears |
| 20:47.53 | kd3|netbook | adys; also, posts on reddit |
| 20:48.05 | kd3|netbook | like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/ibit9/preview_of_beta_17_terrainpng_for_texture_packers/c22fr6q |
| 20:48.05 | Adys | at first because it was only on ie |
| 20:48.10 | Adys | then because it was on fx but only on 32bit |
| 20:48.18 | Adys | then because it was only on fx |
| 20:48.25 | Adys | and now because it doesnt exist anymore. |
| 20:49.02 | Adys | oh i dont check jeb's reddit feed |
| 20:53.17 | Ackis | hmm do I want to apply for a manager position and make not much more than I make now? |
| 20:53.27 | Ackis | or do I want to look at lolcats? |
| 20:55.41 | Adys | Maldivia: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/evolving-google-design-and-experience.html |
| 20:55.45 | Adys | just posted |
| 20:56.33 | Nechckn | lolcats usually win, Adys =) |
| 20:56.51 | Nechckn | More responsibility, without any reward is for the birds. |
| 20:57.12 | Adys | dont you dare address lolcats to me when you mean Ackis |
| 20:58.03 | Nechckn | Ouchies... sorry, fella. |
| 20:58.07 | Nechckn | -P |
| 20:58.09 | Ackis | lulz |
| 20:58.14 | Ackis | poor Adys |
| 20:58.14 | Nechckn | =P , rather |
| 20:58.22 | Ackis | wouldn't it be funny if we looked alike too? |
| 20:58.38 | Adys | why dont you start speaking french, you poor excuse of a canadian. |
| 20:58.49 | Nechckn | Yow... |
| 20:58.51 | Ackis | comment ca vas? |
| 20:59.05 | Maldivia | Adys: yeah, see that they have the black bar in the screenshot, but that doesn't mean it's meant to be like that :P |
| 20:59.07 | Adys | now we totally look alike |
| 20:59.12 | Ackis | le sigh |
| 20:59.16 | Nechckn | is really sorry, now. Look out when they whip out the French! |
| 20:59.54 | Adys | Nechckn: Its ok; I'm still working on not being french |
| 21:00.05 | Nechckn | And becoming? |
| 21:00.11 | Adys | I dont care. |
| 21:00.22 | Ackis | american |
| 21:00.23 | Nechckn | ehehhehe anything else? |
| 21:00.53 | Adys | Ackis: i'm not becoming a nationality that isn't a language too. |
| 21:00.59 | Nechckn | Come to 'merica!! we need all of the smart folks we can get... |
| 21:01.00 | Adys | (oh you totally SEE what I did there) |
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| 21:01.29 | Adys | Nechckn: why would you want me then |
| 21:01.31 | Adys | take Fisker and alr |
| 21:01.32 | Ackis | lulz at Adys |
| 21:01.36 | Adys | and zz_Alram. |
| 21:01.47 | Nechckn | Eeesh... try to give a guy a compliment.... |
| 21:02.15 | Adys | Nechckn: i failed modesty school |
| 21:02.38 | Adys | also you asked me to come to america, i needed an excuse |
| 21:03.12 | Maldivia | Adys: and looked around on a few different language versions, and found the black bar on the canadian version of google, but the links below the search bar wasn't moved to the bottom of the screen, as that blog entry described |
| 21:03.26 | Nechckn | You could stay in one of my apartments and teach me better French! |
| 21:03.38 | Nechckn | Whilst you find real employment... |
| 21:04.08 | Adys | Nechckn: my french has become extremely poor over time |
| 21:04.14 | Ackis | he's french.... he doesn't work, only surrenders |
| 21:04.25 | Maldivia | (Adys, ohh, and a lot of the google sites still have the old old top bar) |
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| 21:04.32 | Nechckn | Lol, but surely better than mine. |
| 21:04.36 | Adys | i barely ever speak french anymore and i dabbled in half a dozen other languages |
| 21:04.55 | Nechckn | 4 years of highschool here does not compare to maybe half a year of "real" study. |
| 21:05.13 | Nechckn | high school-level, that is |
| 21:05.16 | kd3|netbook | rofl: http://i.imgur.com/KZXQs.png |
| 21:05.39 | Adys | kd3: lol |
| 21:05.54 | Adys | Nechckn: thats what i tell everyone |
| 21:07.24 | Adys | a german friend of mine has been learning french for ages and i picked up german about a month ago and started speaking it with anyone german i knew; i almost caught up with him on some levels already |
| 21:07.54 | Adys | kd3: whats that annoying white pixel. |
| 21:08.16 | kd3|netbook | ? |
| 21:08.30 | Adys | in the middle |
| 21:08.36 | Parnic | http://kotaku.com/5816376/your-first-hit-of-world-of-warcraft-is-now-free-to-play-until-level-20 - anyone know if this is for new accounts only or if it works on accounts that have lapsed, but have sub-20 chars? |
| 21:09.09 | Adys | Parnic: new accs only |
| 21:09.17 | kd3|netbook | dunno; but now that I see it and am not tuning it out, yah. annoying |
| 21:09.20 | Parnic | dangit. was hoping for a free test bed for my addons that isn't the ptr :P |
| 21:09.33 | Parnic | i guess i can still make a starter account for that, though |
| 21:09.39 | Adys | Parnic: then.. make a new acc |
| 21:09.39 | Adys | :P |
| 21:09.47 | Parnic | i win! |
| 21:11.09 | Parnic | i'd still need to level up each class until they get their special ability for testing...level 10ish for paladins and holy power? at least hunters start with pets now (right?) |
| 21:11.30 | kd3|netbook | yes, but they can't be controlled until level 10 |
| 21:11.45 | kd3|netbook | you get call/dismiss pet and that's about it |
| 21:11.54 | Parnic | as long as they have unitframes, i'm happy :P |
| 21:12.02 | Adys | ../../../include/QtCore/../../src/corelib/tools/qstring.h:702:3: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) > X is always false |
| 21:12.07 | Adys | gcc warnings are scary |
| 21:12.27 | Parnic | gcc is scary. |
| 21:12.30 | Parnic | clang ftw |
| 21:12.54 | Adys | clang feels too unstable |
| 21:13.09 | Parnic | i love it. never had any problems with stability personally |
| 21:13.43 | Parnic | its warnings and errors are amazing |
| 21:14.00 | Adys | ive had to triage a lot of clang bugs in wine |
| 21:14.15 | Adys | (admittedly there were quite a few gcc ones too) |
| 21:14.21 | Parnic | heh |
| 21:14.38 | Adys | also |
| 21:14.39 | Adys | GCC has a few C++'0x features that Clang does not yet support. |
| 21:15.45 | Parnic | c++ drives me nuts and i have to use it daily. templates can die a horrible death, imo :P |
| 21:18.48 | Maldivia | Parnic: but you can do weird stuff like this: http://weegen.home.xs4all.nl/eelis/analogliterals.xhtml (and can't remember who linked this some time ago) |
| 21:19.25 | Parnic | that's exactly the kind of idiocy i'm referring to :P |
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| 21:20.58 | Dewin | Anybody have or have any idea where to get a reasonably-modern version of ntfsclone for *windows*? |
| 21:21.03 | Galvin | Anyone been getting the equipment manager tainted by addons? |
| 21:21.12 | Dewin | All's I can seem to find is a 7-year-old version that doesn't support save/restore-image |
| 21:22.00 | cog|work | Dewin: any reason you need it *in* windows? |
| 21:22.04 | cog|work | i just boot to a clonezilla cd |
| 21:22.07 | TC-Laptop | Dewin: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:22.10 | Adys | Maldivia: i think Shirik linked that |
| 21:22.33 | Dewin | TC-Laptop: bzcat file.img.bz2 | ntfsclone - --restore-image --output foo.img |
| 21:22.38 | Adys | and its not idiocy |
| 21:22.38 | Maldivia | Adys: might have been, figured I'd just better give some credit to whom ever introduced me to it :P |
| 21:22.48 | Adys | Parnic: its very clever; imho |
| 21:22.50 | Dewin | Courtesy of Blizzard defaulting to deleting my configuration on login |
| 21:22.53 | Adys | you get to modify a lot |
| 21:23.03 | Dewin | and then me botching my restore from my primary backup |
| 21:23.04 | Adys | then from there on, what you do with that may be evil or not |
| 21:24.51 | Dewin | I'm about yay close to just hauling this computer about 30 feet away and dropping it off the deck, to be honest. |
| 21:24.58 | Parnic | adys: no no, it's clever. i find it silly that the language allows stuff like that, that's all. |
| 21:25.15 | Adys | the language doesn't "allow stuff like that" |
| 21:25.31 | Adys | the language allows a huge deal of modifications |
| 21:25.38 | Parnic | semantics :) |
| 21:25.49 | Adys | absolutely not |
| 21:26.15 | Adys | if you get clever enough you could do it in most languages |
| 21:26.19 | Adys | implementing it one way or the other |
| 21:27.03 | Adys | its easier(ish) to do in c++ because of whatever but fwiw ive seen really scary shit done in C too |
| 21:27.09 | Jamash | if you have max lw, spamming trade with the new tank leg enchant = many golds |
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| 21:30.53 | TC-Laptop | Cairenn|afk: http://www.nachomamatees.com/servlet/the-1483/Dangerous-to-go-Alone/Detail |
| 21:32.35 | Mr_Rabies | lol my general chat was really quiet for some reason |
| 21:32.44 | Mr_Rabies | i thiiiiiiiiiink badboy was flagging everyone for spam |
| 21:32.47 | nicoli_s | that is awesome tc-laptop |
| 21:33.24 | A-KO | is there a list of API changes anywhere in 4.2? |
| 21:34.38 | Xyphoid | i showed that analog literals thing to the c++ programmer here and he complained that it ran out at 3 dimensions |
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| 21:35.25 | Funkeh` | Mr_Rabies, update |
| 21:35.55 | TheLifelessOne | Does the first letter in an XML letter need to be capitalized? |
| 21:36.03 | TheLifelessOne | XML element* |
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| 21:36.58 | Mr_Rabies | i did |
| 21:37.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's working now |
| 21:37.06 | Mr_Rabies | i hope a GM doesn't go nuts on me :p |
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| 21:41.23 | Dewin | you're the badboy author? Or just someone who uses it? |
| 21:41.56 | Funkeh` | Mr_Rabies, it doesn't report anything, simply chews up the words |
| 21:41.57 | Mr_Rabies | the author is listed as "funkydude" and his name is Funkeh`, so it's likely him :p |
| 21:42.08 | Mr_Rabies | oh, okay, i thought it auto-reported |
| 21:42.47 | Maldivia | correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't reporting a protected function |
| 21:43.03 | Funkeh` | no |
| 21:43.10 | Funkeh` | you're thinking of gm tickets |
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| 21:43.43 | Gnarfoz | spam reporting is silently throttled, though, but I guess the spam volume would have to be pretty high for you to hit that limit |
| 21:44.12 | Dewin | That's pretty impressive. 'top' in a vmware image reports a process using 1600% CPU... |
| 21:44.32 | Mr_Rabies | oh wow you're also the author of bigwigs |
| 21:44.47 | Gnarfoz | Dewin: 16vcpu? ^^ |
| 21:44.48 | kd3|netbook | dewin; if it's maxing out 16 cores/threads, it'll do that |
| 21:44.50 | Mr_Rabies | with how impressive badboy is i'm tempted to switch from DBM and give bigwigs a try |
| 21:45.03 | Dewin | No, it has 2 vcpu... |
| 21:45.10 | Funkeh` | im one of the several authors |
| 21:45.38 | Dewin | I'm pretty sure I don't have enough real computer to handle 16 virtual ones :-p |
| 21:46.14 | Dewin | though parallel bzip was fun to play with |
| 21:47.30 | Dewin | I've also learned I'm not the only person who's randomly 'died to falling' |
| 21:47.42 | Dewin | Someone was AFK on a path and came back to have taken falling damage 3 times and died. |
| 21:48.11 | kd3|netbook | stop standing in earthquake zones |
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| 21:49.18 | Dewin | It's better then that, I was in flight form when I died :-p |
| 21:50.05 | Adys | oh dear |
| 21:50.13 | kd3|netbook | I've taken falling damage/died on flying mounts before... just takes hitting a slope and falling long enough when you hit the bottom |
| 21:50.18 | kd3|netbook | noted to never afk fly again after that |
| 21:50.26 | Adys | i started compiling qt 6 hours ago and i completely neglected giving a -j4. this is a laptop. |
| 21:50.30 | Dewin | kd3: yeah, but not while afk and not moving. |
| 21:50.32 | Adys | i tabbed in to find it still compiling |
| 21:50.51 | zenzelezz | -j4? |
| 21:50.57 | Adys | make on 4 cores |
| 21:51.15 | zenzelezz | oh, make doesn't automatically use more than one? |
| 21:51.18 | kd3|netbook | ouch; ran into something similar in sql server... running a simple data mining task with 7 nested tables using the default multithreading options (only 4 threads available) |
| 21:51.35 | kd3|netbook | took 8 hours sitting there at "reading for ...something" and didn't show any signs of stopping |
| 21:51.45 | kd3|netbook | changed a 4 to a 16 and it finished in 5 seconds flat... wth |
| 21:51.54 | Dewin | I seem to recall something about it usually being better to do one more core than you actually had, Adys |
| 21:52.11 | Dewin | I don't recall the reasoning though |
| 21:52.14 | Adys | Dewin: i recall being better to do one less |
| 21:52.34 | kd3|netbook | doesn't linus compile the kernel with make -j100? |
| 21:52.36 | Adys | i just do -j4 on my laptop and -j8 on my desktop and thats that, it compiles fast enough |
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| 21:53.01 | kd3|netbook | or some crazily large number |
| 21:53.35 | Adys | meh |
| 21:53.42 | Adys | i dont notice any sort of speed increase above 8 |
| 21:53.55 | zenzelezz | this talk of cores reminded me of this picture... http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2009/01/05/what-does-256-cores-look-like/ |
| 21:54.16 | Adys | its scary i know what that link is without clicking |
| 21:54.36 | Adys | theres a point where youve just had too much internet |
| 21:56.13 | zenzelezz | I think I'd like my tombstone to show a process listing where I'm listed as a zombie process having run for (however long I lived) |
| 21:56.47 | Adys | zenzelezz: also, as the guy said, its a real flaw in the windows task manager |
| 21:57.06 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/pcOkD.png handles it better already |
| 21:57.48 | zenzelezz | flaw how? I only recall the picture (I linked) from one of Mark Russinovich's articles |
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| 21:58.49 | Adys | Sometime between now and when we're more likely to see machines with this level of parallelism it might be an appropriate area for some UI redesign. I don't know many IT administrators or developers that have a 30" LCD monitor, okay I know one and it isn't me unfortunately. |
| 22:03.32 | Kraps_ipod | Eating old pretzels |
| 22:04.27 | Kraps_ipod | They taste like crap |
| 22:06.02 | TC-Laptop | then dont eat them? |
| 22:06.23 | Kraps_ipod | I stopped already |
| 22:06.29 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
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| 22:06.33 | Fisker | or hey kd3|netbook |
| 22:06.38 | Gnarfoz | I recall not specifying -j resulting in a default of physical cores * 1.5? |
| 22:07.07 | zenzelezz | what's a nonphysical core? Hyperthreading? |
| 22:07.17 | Gnarfoz | for example, yeah |
| 22:07.31 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 22:07.46 | Gnarfoz | you in google+ yet? |
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| 22:07.53 | Fisker | nothankyou.jpg Gnarfoz |
| 22:07.59 | Kraps_ipod | Hey Fisker |
| 22:08.00 | zenzelezz | google+? |
| 22:08.13 | Kraps_ipod | Check out my iPod |
| 22:08.24 | Gnarfoz | http://www.google.com/intl/en/+/demo/ |
| 22:08.28 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 22:08.32 | Fisker | you have no ipod Kraps_ipod |
| 22:08.50 | zenzelezz | whoever was speaking of a grey top line at Google this morning, it's now arrived at google.no too |
| 22:09.12 | Gnarfoz | that's not related to .no, it's related to google+ in this case, that page always has it |
| 22:09.46 | Kraps_ipod | U jelly Fisker |
| 22:09.47 | Gnarfoz | (not that it works on a by country basis in other cases, anyway. I get the black youtoube player on one PC but not the other, on the same network, too) |
| 22:09.48 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: well .no didn't have it this morning |
| 22:09.52 | Fisker | no Kraps_ipod |
| 22:10.02 | Gnarfoz | well, it's unrelated to .no as a country. :D |
| 22:10.10 | Kraps_ipod | I think you are |
| 22:10.18 | Xyphoid | is it just me or is limited invites the worst way to launch a social networking tool |
| 22:10.26 | Gnarfoz | is it just me or is this not "a launch" |
| 22:10.27 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: yes, but .no is still different from .com; updates to .com tend to arrive a few hours sooner at least on .com |
| 22:10.39 | Gnarfoz | .no is just a national landing page *shrug* |
| 22:10.48 | zenzelezz | doesn't change the fact |
| 22:10.50 | Gnarfoz | use www.google.com/ncr to get the real thing |
| 22:10.59 | Fisker | updates for layouts are generally kinda weird |
| 22:11.01 | zenzelezz | I used to, but the cookie kept getting reset |
| 22:11.06 | zenzelezz | so I gave in and stuck to .no |
| 22:11.08 | Fisker | for example the new toolbar didn't arrive until several months after for some people |
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| 22:14.23 | Fisker | soup |
| 22:17.51 | kd3|netbook | oh wow, blizz |
| 22:18.02 | kd3|netbook | way2fail: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743694615?page=1#1 |
| 22:19.39 | zenzelezz | wow |
| 22:20.04 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 22:20.07 | zenzelezz | think they'll solve it before it goes live in EU? :-p |
| 22:20.08 | karl_w_w | i noticed that |
| 22:20.20 | karl_w_w | but then, i prepared for it happening anyway |
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| 22:25.38 | nicoli_s | ouch that sucks |
| 22:27.23 | Gnarfoz | what, exactly, are the people affected losing? :P |
| 22:27.33 | Gnarfoz | the ability to buy 1 more item they could've bought before? |
| 22:33.38 | Adys | "We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon." |
| 22:33.45 | Adys | well thats not something you hear google say every day |
| 22:34.51 | Gnarfoz | for a limited number of users test... well |
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| 22:38.19 | Kraps | i has my sexy new mouse |
| 22:41.14 | Kraps | whats mouse acceleration good for? |
| 22:42.13 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: ping |
| 22:43.33 | Nobgul-bnc | Kraps, going faster? |
| 22:44.38 | Kraps | i know, but i just make the speed high |
| 22:44.58 | foxlit | Kraps: variable speed, really |
| 22:45.00 | Lunessa | Kraps: From rest to "at speed" |
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| 22:45.27 | foxlit | See, you could turn it off, then moving mouse from point A to point B will always move the cursor from point A' to point B' |
| 22:45.49 | Shadowed | Hum, did something change with hunter pets in 4.2? |
| 22:46.02 | Lunessa | Shadowed: Yes. |
| 22:46.05 | Shadowed | annnnd |
| 22:46.08 | foxlit | If it's on, where you end up depends on how fast you move the mouse -- a fast motion will move the cursor further than a slow one |
| 22:46.24 | Lunessa | I think it weas defensive became |
| 22:46.26 | Lunessa | assist" |
| 22:46.28 | Shadowed | oh |
| 22:46.29 | Shadowed | wtf |
| 22:46.32 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: happiness got removed in 4.1 and they got a new stance in 4.2 |
| 22:46.33 | Shadowed | why is someone asking for a SUF change for that |
| 22:46.42 | Stanzilla | maybe because of the happiness stuff |
| 22:46.45 | Shadowed | oh is taht it |
| 22:46.47 | Shadowed | that's easy |
| 22:46.47 | Lunessa | Oh yeah, happiness - buh bye |
| 22:46.56 | Nobgul-bnc | hapiness wasa in 4.1 though wasnt it |
| 22:47.02 | Shadowed | close enough |
| 22:47.05 | Nobgul-bnc | lol |
| 22:47.25 | Shadowed | hrm fuck |
| 22:47.28 | Shadowed | what is my wowace key |
| 22:47.55 | Nobgul-bnc | iarel33t? |
| 22:53.06 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5816376/your-first-hit-of-world-of-warcraft-is-now-free-to-play-until-level-20 |
| 22:53.53 | Kraps | holy mackerel |
| 22:55.45 | Nobgul-bnc | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes |
| 22:55.45 | Nobgul-bnc | Gotta love the 404 |
| 22:56.36 | Shadowed | Was pet happiness replaced with anything |
| 22:56.36 | Shadowed | or no |
| 22:56.57 | Stanzilla | just removed |
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| 22:59.45 | Torhal|work | Shadowed: In 4,2, aggressive stance was removed |
| 22:59.51 | Shadowed | yea I can ignore that at least |
| 23:00.09 | Lunessa | Ahhh... thanks Torhal. I was racking my brain. |
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| 23:04.54 | cog|work | ~lart blizzard |
| 23:04.54 | purl | frags blizzard with his BFG9000 |
| 23:05.03 | Shadowed | Someone should make sure http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/files/8681-v3-3-5-3-g9880312/ works for me so I can tag it! |
| 23:05.04 | cog|work | apparently /roar doesn't play the sound for nearby toons |
| 23:05.26 | Gnarfoz | how's that unexpected |
| 23:05.40 | Mr_Rabies | aw |
| 23:05.41 | cog|work | ... |
| 23:05.44 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.46 | cog|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.57 | cog|work | every other sound-making emote plays for other people |
| 23:05.58 | Mr_Rabies | like almost everything else that plays a sound works in the local area |
| 23:06.47 | Gnarfoz | I can live without idiots spamming /roar, tbh |
| 23:07.11 | Gnarfoz | they'll probably "fix" it later on, when said idiots have already found something else to annoy me with |
| 23:07.11 | cog|work | hmm |
| 23:07.18 | cog|work | seems like /charge isn't working either |
| 23:07.40 | cog|work | or /silly |
| 23:07.52 | cog|work | they totally borked it :P |
| 23:08.41 | Gnarfoz | in reality, you just have sound turned off! :D |
| 23:09.22 | cog|work | hmm |
| 23:09.28 | cog|work | looks like you have to be in the same party |
| 23:10.55 | Ackis | why am I downloading the patch at 30 kb/sec |
| 23:11.19 | cog|work | it's only NATural |
| 23:11.31 | cog|work | HAHA I MAID A JOAK |
| 23:11.40 | Gnarfoz | why have they abandoned the background downloader, more like |
| 23:15.33 | Adys | is there an easy way (single command) on linux to move a file to a new directory that bears the name of that file in the same directory |
| 23:15.54 | Adys | eg mv --awesome something something/something |
| 23:16.45 | Kraps | TC-Laptop: what do you think http://store.steampowered.com/app/90400/ http://store.steampowered.com/app/92000/ |
| 23:17.07 | Gnarfoz | mv file file/file |
| 23:17.08 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 23:17.21 | Gnarfoz | should work, / is not a valid character in a filename |
| 23:17.29 | Adys | Gnarfoz: it wont |
| 23:17.42 | Adys | mv: accessing `file/file': Not a directory |
| 23:17.56 | Gnarfoz | does file (the directory) exist? |
| 23:18.03 | Gnarfoz | (rather obvious, but... you gotta ask) |
| 23:18.14 | Adys | it cant exist |
| 23:18.22 | Adys | what i want is a shorthand for: |
| 23:18.26 | Gnarfoz | well, mv doesn't make dirs |
| 23:18.26 | cog|work | mv something something2 && mkdir something && mv something2 something/something |
| 23:18.34 | Gnarfoz | what cog said |
| 23:18.37 | Adys | mv file file_tmp; mkdir file; mv file_tmp file/file |
| 23:18.47 | Adys | yes |
| 23:18.49 | mckenziemc | xor them together! |
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| 23:19.08 | Gnarfoz | well, time to implement --awesome for mv |
| 23:19.17 | Adys | xor is ^ mckenziemc |
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| 23:19.35 | Adys | Gnarfoz: it wouldnt be a mv command |
| 23:19.37 | Adys | but it was an example |
| 23:19.38 | mckenziemc | that's not what i was talking about adys |
| 23:20.42 | Gnarfoz | well, no single command makes sense to have that feature, so there's really no point in it "not being a mv" command |
| 23:20.57 | Gnarfoz | this goes straight against the one tool for one job rule |
| 23:21.20 | Adys | as you said |
| 23:21.23 | Adys | mv doesnt create dirs |
| 23:21.31 | Adys | dont see why it suddenly should |
| 23:21.45 | Gnarfoz | well, mkdir does, but that doesn't move or copy files |
| 23:21.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:21.55 | Gnarfoz | you can play this game for each of the possibly involved tools |
| 23:22.24 | Gnarfoz | basically... you want to write awesome.sh and be done with it :P |
| 23:23.11 | Jamash | you want a transactional filesystem |
| 23:23.13 | cog|work | cp will make directories with the /p option |
| 23:23.19 | cog|work | iirc |
| 23:23.23 | cog|work | -p* |
| 23:23.45 | Jamash | because there's no way to do what you're saying with atomic filesystem actions |
| 23:23.48 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.55 | cog|work | oh |
| 23:24.01 | cog|work | hmm what am i thinking of? |
| 23:24.03 | karl_w_w | woo |
| 23:24.08 | Gnarfoz | (you're not thinking of mkdir -p, which is "create parent dirs if necessary) |
| 23:24.09 | karl_w_w | atlasloot stack overflow |
| 23:24.14 | cog|work | oh... |
| 23:24.16 | cog|work | yeah i am |
| 23:24.19 | Gnarfoz | s/)/?) |
| 23:24.19 | cog|work | ignore me |
| 23:24.20 | cog|work | :P |
| 23:24.31 | cog|work | it's almost time for home |
| 23:24.37 | Gnarfoz | it's almost time for bed |
| 23:24.51 | Gnarfoz | actually, it's probably past that for sane people |
| 23:24.51 | Adys | it's almost time for food |
| 23:24.57 | Gnarfoz | it's ALWAYS time for food |
| 23:25.00 | Adys | <Fisker> It's almost time for sex |
| 23:25.12 | Adys | alias mva='mv $1 $1.tmp && mkdir $1 && mv $1 $1/$1' |
| 23:25.12 | Gnarfoz | for him, it's always almost time for sex. |
| 23:25.13 | Adys | damn it |
| 23:25.18 | Adys | how do i pass args to an alias |
| 23:25.22 | Adys | $1 gets parsed |
| 23:25.41 | Jamash | shell script imo |
| 23:25.52 | Gnarfoz | I... wouldn't even have expected $1 to be parsed in an alias |
| 23:26.04 | Jamash | or a shell function |
| 23:26.18 | Adys | $1 gets parsed as an empty string Gnarfoz |
| 23:26.24 | Adys | because im setting it in an alias |
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| 23:27.18 | Adys | unfortunately Jamash is right.. seems its not possible with bash-compatible alias |
| 23:27.22 | Adys | have to do a function |
| 23:27.25 | Jamash | aliases just substitute the alias word for a given string |
| 23:27.26 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOaywuEABoA all too meta :/ |
| 23:28.05 | Adys | foxlit: http://xkcd.com/ |
| 23:29.33 | Jamash | yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation |
| 23:29.46 | foxlit | hm, 3k valor points |
| 23:29.54 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2743694686 <- ah, my old realm, how I miss being outnumbered like that |
| 23:30.02 | foxlit | wonder what to do with them |
| 23:30.24 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: let them rot, spend them, convert them to conquest, buy something with that... or not :D |
| 23:32.28 | foxlit | Don't really need any pve gear on the character this is on :/ |
| 23:32.43 | foxlit | What's the conversion rate to gold, anyway? |
| 23:32.57 | Gnarfoz | pointless, probably |
| 23:33.24 | Gnarfoz | you could go vp -> cp -> wait for conversion to honor -> buy pvp mounts xD |
| 23:33.59 | foxlit | have pvp mounts |
| 23:34.13 | foxlit | except, apparently, the ram |
| 23:35.08 | Gnarfoz | also, you should probably buy that mount with honor you have now, if you have some, lest it goes to virtual nirvana, like all US honor points :D |
| 23:35.32 | foxlit | Have no honor. |
| 23:35.42 | Gnarfoz | pretty safe in that regard then |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | Also, it's a ram. I'm probably avoiding it on principle. |
| 23:35.57 | Gnarfoz | but... mount collecting nerd points! |
| 23:36.18 | Jamash | I haz a squirrel |
| 23:36.42 | Gnarfoz | I can't even download the damn patch, yet :P |
| 23:36.56 | Jamash | l2internet |
| 23:37.17 | foxlit | could buy the boots |
| 23:37.27 | foxlit | But then I'd have to figure out which of the bazillion alts they should go to :/ |
| 23:38.03 | karl_w_w | so where do i get language packs? |
| 23:38.09 | Dewin | *sigh* On top of losing my UI due to file corruption, now that I've recovered it -- TellMeWhen is randomly not working for me and working for everybody else |
| 23:44.24 | TC-Laptop | huh, they have a 3D phone |
| 23:45.09 | Adys | Who doesnt. |
| 23:45.09 | mckenziemc | hmm, 2nd time wow's locked up and disconnected : / |
| 23:45.12 | nicoli_s | so you can call people...IN 3D! |
| 23:45.21 | mckenziemc | probably my computer being too slow though |
| 23:45.24 | Adys | nicoli_s: no, you don't get it |
| 23:45.33 | Adys | nicoli_s: its so people take the phone seriously |
| 23:45.39 | Adys | because thats what they do when they see something in 3d. |
| 23:47.13 | TC-Laptop | http://www.htc.com/www/product/evo3d/overview.html i dunno, might offer a few min worth on interest |
| 23:48.43 | Adys | im sure thats a real battery saver |
| 23:49.07 | karl_w_w | can somebody on enGB paste their realmlist? :) |
| 23:49.34 | Adys | karl_w_w: want an old 4.1 one? |
| 23:50.15 | karl_w_w | sure |
| 23:50.21 | Adys | karl_w_w: set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com set patchlist enGB.patch.battle.net:1119/patch set realmlistbn "" set portal eu |
| 23:52.16 | karl_w_w | well there's the problem... Pinging eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [195.12.234.62] with 32 bytes of data: |
| 23:52.17 | karl_w_w | Request timed out. |
| 23:52.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~tuller@c-24-126-34-30.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:53.00 | Jamash | hrm, the custom blizzard quest progress bar isn't showing for me |
| 23:53.21 | Gnarfoz | it's not like those ever responded to pings |
| 23:53.28 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 23:53.42 | Gnarfoz | best you get is hand-off point to telia |
| 23:54.00 | Jamash | anyone know what the custom bar is called? |
| 23:54.33 | Gnarfoz | /framestack |
| 23:54.40 | Gnarfoz | (or was it /fstack?) |
| 23:54.47 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, it's NOT showing, durrrr |
| 23:55.05 | Jamash | indeed |
| 23:56.14 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 23:56.20 | karl_w_w | i can get it to download enGB :D |
| 23:56.35 | karl_w_w | all 1gb of it |
| 23:56.48 | Jamash | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:57.28 | karl_w_w | have my US client speak real english |
| 23:57.30 | Gnarfoz | world domination |
| 23:57.39 | Jamash | good luck with that |
| 23:57.40 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: enGB == enUS |
| 23:57.48 | Gnarfoz | you're wasting your time :D |
| 23:58.46 | karl_w_w | we'll see |
| 23:59.23 | Jamash | they're not the same, but I don't know how if it's possible to log on to us servers with an en-gb locale |
| 23:59.29 | Gnarfoz | they are the same. |
| 23:59.31 | karl_w_w | at this stage I'm most curious to see if it actually breaks it |
