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| 02:18.56 | mckenziemc | ~trout herself |
| 02:18.56 | purl | ACTION slaps herself around a bit with a large trout! |
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| 02:23.17 | Trela | !cookie mckenziemc |
| 02:23.17 | Trela | hands mckenziemc a macadamia nut cookie. |
| 02:27.00 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/news/2011/06/dox-everywhere-lulzsec-under-attack-from-hackers-law-enforcement.ars |
| 02:27.39 | MentalPower | Scotepi: is it in the tooltip? you could try scannng it |
| 02:27.43 | MentalPower | ugly, but works |
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| 02:28.39 | Kraps | my god its a whole war |
| 02:31.07 | Dagmar | Kraps: Nothing more than usual |
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| 02:31.57 | Kraps | https://twitter.com/#!/th3j35t3r this guy is interesting, kinda like a cyber-batman |
| 02:33.19 | Kraps | http://www.unveillance.com/latest-news/unveillance-official-statement/ |
| 02:37.32 | Dagmar | Kraps: Kinda more like cantankerous oldster |
| 02:37.45 | Dagmar | ...or possibly starched-shirt republican |
| 02:43.36 | Kraps | why because hes pro-establishment? O_o |
| 02:50.43 | Kraps | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-now-sells-70-monocles/ |
| 03:03.16 | Dagmar | Kraps: Because he only even tries to see one side of an issue: his |
| 03:05.01 | kd3 | o_O |
| 03:06.08 | Dagmar | What this boils down to is there is actually utility in the security theater that Lulzsec is engaging in |
| 03:06.20 | Dagmar | It appears that guy refuses to see it at all |
| 03:08.07 | Dagmar | ...but we've seen the same damnable pattern repeating itself over and over again now for _decades_. Without real _fear_ driving it (and it doesn't take much) management and executives become complacent about security, they under-budget and under-pay the engineers who have to implement this stuff, auditors stop rocking the boat so deadlines can be met, and basically _things start getting incredibly sloppy_ |
| 03:08.49 | Dagmar | Just because from management's point of view, until they're actually impacted by an event someone _notices_ security is just a cost center to them. |
| 03:10.02 | Dagmar | They start electing to rely on their developers and admins to be 100% responsible for issues of security, with the same amount of hours in the day as it takes to do their "profit center" work allocated 100%. |
| 03:11.38 | Dagmar | ...which means they're effectively using part-timers to deal with security, while the "bad guys" who transitioned from mainly being michevious kids to being full-time paid professional blackhats about TEN YEARS AGO have their whole damn day to find things they can leverage |
| 03:11.59 | Dagmar | It fails, it fails large, and it fails frequently. |
| 03:13.51 | Dagmar | Oh, and you'll never guess which sector of the industry seriously dwindled away to near-nothing after the dot-com bust... |
| 03:14.35 | Kraps | while its a good thing that this is lulzsec and not someone worse, i cant really see myself defending anarchists and bullies |
| 03:14.39 | Dagmar | That Lulzsec has been getting away with bloody murder using simple SQL-injection should be as much of a tell-tale as a whole pile of dead canaries at the bottom of the mine |
| 03:15.16 | kd3 | yah, this whole debacle's been both amusing and pathetic at the same time |
| 03:15.16 | Dagmar | They're not really the problem. They're just a highly visible symptom. |
| 03:16.05 | Dagmar | The _real_ problem is that the Chinese and the Russians are basically pwning everyone else right and left, stealing technology and cash by double-fistful as a result |
| 03:17.49 | Dagmar | RBN is virtually unassailable due to their business associations, and it *does* appear that the Chinese gov't are if not running a serious operation, are certainly giving it the nod of approval so long as their guys only work over non-Chinese interest |
| 03:18.22 | Arrowmaster | RBN could be considered associated with the government too |
| 03:18.30 | Dagmar | That's true |
| 03:18.46 | Dagmar | ...but they're definitely associated with the largest CC payment processor over there. |
| 03:21.31 | Kraps | how long will the internet be in its "infancy" anyway? its already in EVERYTHING |
| 03:26.44 | Dagmar | Probably about the time we get an assassination market going to deal with the spammers |
| 03:27.12 | kd3 | ooh. killing spammers time? sign me up |
| 03:27.14 | Dagmar | ...or perhaps start beating reporters for writing stupid crap like that. |
| 03:29.24 | Dagmar | It drives me nuts when they equate a DDoS with a 'vulnerability in the network'. |
| 03:29.50 | Dagmar | It's no more a vulnerability than massive internal injuries as a result of falling off a twentieth floor balcony is a suprise |
| 03:30.43 | Arrowmaster | just about any network will go down from a good DDoS |
| 03:30.54 | Arrowmaster | except amazon as weve seen in the past |
| 03:32.22 | Dagmar | They have an advantage in that they can be almost absurdly geographically diverse |
| 03:32.45 | mckenziemc | lol Dagmar nice analogy |
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| 03:40.09 | Arrowmaster | yahtzee reviewed duke (for real this time) |
| 03:40.19 | Dagmar | ...and he nailed it |
| 03:40.30 | Thunder_Child | just like duke |
| 03:40.55 | Dagmar | There was one pleasant bit of "probably shouldnt' be there" in DNF tho |
| 03:41.13 | Dagmar | The mini-duke thing was multiplayer fan-made maps |
| 03:41.49 | Arrowmaster | i remember those maps for duke3d |
| 03:41.55 | Dagmar | Yep. Fond memories |
| 03:42.53 | Dagmar | Beyond that there's a laundry list of things they probably should have done better with technologically |
| 03:43.09 | Dagmar | Some of the model boning is absolutely horrifying |
| 03:43.27 | Kraps | hey a new definition of "cybercrime"! http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/06/22/funny-facebook-fails-man-woman-hostage-16-hours-updates-facebook/ |
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| 03:46.02 | Thunder_Child | sad that he is still alive |
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| 04:04.06 | Shirik | someone save me |
| 04:04.33 | bluspacecow | http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm |
| 04:04.37 | bluspacecow | any truth in that ? |
| 04:04.48 | Shirik | You know how futurama always has a different text during the opening scene? They put something up in binary and not only did I immediately recognize that it looked like ASCII encoded letters, but also I knew what it said |
| 04:04.50 | Thunder_Child | from what Shirik? |
| 04:05.23 | Thunder_Child | it's not the only time they use binary |
| 04:06.05 | Shirik | not the point |
| 04:06.30 | Shirik | the point is that I actually read something in binary as if it were letters ._. |
| 04:07.13 | kd3 | thinks of a line from the matrix |
| 04:09.31 | Iriel | Back in the day many people could do that thanks to paper tape and punched cards |
| 04:10.10 | Thunder_Child | it isnt much different than reading another language |
| 04:10.44 | bluspacecow | exactly |
| 04:11.22 | ccox | curse got hacked *again*? |
| 04:13.19 | Cairenn | oh? |
| 04:13.54 | Cairenn | Well that rather sucks for them. |
| 04:14.40 | mckenziemc | hacked? |
| 04:15.31 | Thunder_Child | not today from what i understand |
| 04:15.47 | Cairenn | Hardware failure is what I was just told, not hacked. |
| 04:16.03 | kd3 | today's downtime is hw failure... the link earlier, though |
| 04:16.32 | Cairenn | kd3: ooooh |
| 04:16.46 | mckenziemc | oh i didn't see the link >.> |
| 04:16.54 | bluspacecow | @kd3 the link earlier is ? I'm just trying to track down if it's true |
| 04:16.58 | bluspacecow | or just conjecture |
| 04:17.18 | kd3 | couldn't tell ya. doing some poking of my own |
| 04:17.30 | bluspacecow | *bats torhal's hair* |
| 04:17.39 | bluspacecow | *directs cute kitty eyes @ torhal* |
| 04:17.59 | mckenziemc | barks at bluspacecow |
| 04:18.04 | bluspacecow | hai! |
| 04:18.08 | bluspacecow | *barks back* |
| 04:18.13 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 04:18.14 | Shirik | never gets cute kitty eyes :( |
| 04:18.16 | bluspacecow | wot ? |
| 04:18.28 | bluspacecow | *directs cute kitty eyes @ shirik* |
| 04:18.33 | Shirik | Ù©(â¢Ì®Ì®Ìâ¢Ì)Û¶ |
| 04:18.38 | bluspacecow | I r hungry BRB |
| 04:19.05 | mckenziemc | it was an aggressive bark, bluspacecow |
| 04:19.16 | mckenziemc | like, "if you don't run away now, i'm going to bite you" |
| 04:19.31 | Thunder_Child | but you may enjoy it |
| 04:22.41 | mckenziemc | although, if you bring me some food too, i *might* leave you alone |
| 04:26.31 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.1.x ToC: 40100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday Krka! |
| 04:27.28 | bluspacecow | oooo lala mck |
| 04:27.41 | Nobgul-BNC | ~pil |
| 04:27.41 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 04:28.26 | bluspacecow | *hands mck a croisant* |
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| 04:31.57 | amro | Shirik! |
| 04:32.22 | Shirik | amro |
| 04:32.34 | amro | are you still playing sc2? |
| 04:32.50 | Shirik | on occasion |
| 04:33.27 | amro | I need to start practicing again |
| 04:33.38 | Shirik | me to |
| 04:35.56 | Kraps | too* |
| 04:36.12 | Shirik | that requires too many letters |
| 04:38.04 | amro | Kraps, you still playing as well? |
| 04:39.02 | mckenziemc | 2 |
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| 04:47.05 | Xinhuan | the person who wrote that didn't offer any links |
| 04:48.31 | Kraps | no amro |
| 04:49.06 | bluspacecow | or any evidence on the curse network |
| 04:49.06 | bluspacecow | which is currently down due to hardware failure |
| 04:49.57 | Kraps | is it possible to fix a mostly stuck mousewheel or do i get a new mouse? |
| 04:50.18 | bluspacecow | depends |
| 04:50.27 | bluspacecow | how confident are you @ taking it apart ? |
| 04:50.31 | bluspacecow | how much was it to buy ? |
| 04:50.39 | bluspacecow | whats open to buy a new mouse from ? |
| 04:50.46 | bluspacecow | it could be dirty ! |
| 04:50.55 | Torhal|work | Kraps: Good luck with that - the spring may go flying across the room as soon as you lift the cover. |
| 04:51.01 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 04:51.07 | bluspacecow | spread baby oil and butter on it |
| 04:51.11 | bluspacecow | then polish that wheel! |
| 04:51.21 | Torhal|work | ... |
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| 04:55.42 | Kraps | im seeing definite liftage of the cover but its not coming off |
| 04:56.49 | Kraps | ah k |
| 04:56.51 | bluspacecow | maybe it needs viagra |
| 04:57.14 | Kraps | shite its filthy in here |
| 04:57.51 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 05:00.48 | Kraps | cant quite see whats messing with the wheel though |
| 05:03.53 | mckenziemc1 | bets on there being a Fisker hidden under the gunk |
| 05:05.39 | Shirik | :/ |
| 05:05.46 | Shirik | has successfully earned troll points |
| 05:05.50 | Shirik | +3 on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6448607/getting-an-error |
| 05:05.52 | Kraps | grats |
| 05:07.39 | Fisker | hello mckenziemc1 |
| 05:08.01 | Shirik | Fisker do you approve of my troll comment? |
| 05:08.09 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:08.31 | Fisker | i read stupid shit on wikipedia Shirik |
| 05:08.34 | Fisker | regarding ryan dunn |
| 05:08.40 | Shirik | who is ryan dunn |
| 05:08.46 | Kraps | why are you coders such jerks? |
| 05:08.55 | mckenziemc1 | lua> function fisker() shirik = function() fisker() end; shirik() end; fisker() |
| 05:08.55 | lua_bot | mckenziemc1: luabot:1: stack overflow |
| 05:09.00 | Fisker | apparently toxicology is done through images put on twitter Shirik |
| 05:09.08 | Fisker | some retard from jackass |
| 05:09.44 | Kraps | Fisker: why do we care about him |
| 05:09.49 | Fisker | idk |
| 05:09.56 | Fisker | i just thought it was funny as hell |
| 05:10.04 | Fisker | that he's dead that is |
| 05:10.18 | Kraps | not really |
| 05:10.25 | Fisker | why not? |
| 05:10.41 | Kraps | he was drunk and speeding |
| 05:10.53 | Fisker | speculation! |
| 05:10.59 | Fisker | however it is funny Kraps |
| 05:11.03 | mckenziemc1 | Fiskulation |
| 05:11.56 | Kraps | its not speculation |
| 05:12.18 | Fisker | it is |
| 05:12.28 | Kraps | no |
| 05:13.26 | Fisker | yes |
| 05:14.04 | starlon | trips Fisker. |
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| 05:20.50 | Kraps | firefox 5.0! |
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| 05:21.10 | mckenziemc1 | kraps 0.7! |
| 05:21.45 | Kraps | no. |
| 05:22.01 | mckenziemc1 | yes |
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| 05:26.19 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc1.0! |
| 05:26.38 | karl_w_w | i miss firefox 2.0 |
| 05:27.19 | mckenziemc1 | i miss karl_w_w 3.1 |
| 05:27.23 | Shirik | I swear to god |
| 05:27.32 | Shirik | Anyone who thinks using gcc and visual studio at the same time is a moon |
| 05:27.35 | Shirik | and a moron |
| 05:28.07 | mckenziemc1 | unable to parse |
| 05:28.48 | karl_w_w | Shirik: syntax error |
| 05:28.57 | Shirik | exactly |
| 05:29.05 | Shirik | I added a __declspec(noreturn) |
| 05:29.13 | Shirik | and then gcc was like "wtf is this shit" |
| 05:29.19 | Shirik | and then I was like "WHY THE HELL ARE WE USING GCC" |
| 05:29.31 | bluspacecow | herp derp |
| 05:29.38 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: WHY THE HELL NOT? |
| 05:29.44 | Kraps | how long till curse is back up? |
| 05:29.59 | karl_w_w | when it's working it'll come up |
| 05:30.00 | Shirik | because it's a windows application for a windows operating system where EVERYTHING ELSE builds in visual studio |
| 05:30.09 | Shirik | but one tiny piece is like "oh btw we choose gcc" |
| 05:30.14 | Shirik | "no reason, we just do." |
| 05:30.30 | bluspacecow | "Update 23:45 UTC / 6:45 pm CST: Unfortunately, the data verification and restoration process is taking much longer than initially expected. Our current estimate is 6 hours to complete the process." |
| 05:30.33 | Kraps | karl_w_w: when will it be working? |
| 05:30.35 | Shirik | and honestly, the only thing going for gcc is that it's standards-compliant |
| 05:30.42 | Arrowmaster | i can think of some things that dont use visual studio |
| 05:30.43 | Shirik | beyond that, it's really a poor compiler |
| 05:30.46 | karl_w_w | when the people make the data happy |
| 05:30.56 | Shirik | everything else related to that project, Arrowmaster |
| 05:31.10 | mckenziemc1 | sacrifices Shirik |
| 05:31.30 | Shirik | about 180 components in that project, each of which... with the exception of ONE... builds with cl |
| 05:31.41 | Kraps | how much time until they make the data happy? |
| 05:32.04 | starlon | data's horny? |
| 05:32.31 | karl_w_w | well data died at the end of nemesis |
| 05:32.41 | karl_w_w | and the only thing left is that derp called b4 |
| 05:32.43 | starlon | he never did get any huh |
| 05:32.45 | karl_w_w | so it could be a while |
| 05:33.26 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Shirik |
| 05:33.32 | Shirik | I know |
| 05:33.37 | Kraps | http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/koma-comic-strip-the-i-evolution.jpg |
| 05:34.42 | Arrowmaster | thats good |
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| 05:37.52 | Fisker | lets kill people |
| 05:38.21 | karl_w_w | kills Fisker |
| 05:38.27 | mckenziemc1 | clones Fisker and kills him again and again |
| 05:38.27 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 05:38.29 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc1 |
| 05:38.32 | Fisker | not so hey Arrowmaster |
| 05:38.33 | Fisker | ok? |
| 05:38.53 | Arrowmaster | then stop pinging me |
| 05:39.02 | mckenziemc1 | (karl_w_w actually killed one of the clones btw) |
| 05:39.55 | karl_w_w | if the clones are identical, then it doesnt matter if I killed a clone or the original |
| 05:41.57 | mckenziemc1 | point being that i had already cloned him |
| 05:42.06 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 05:42.06 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:42.19 | Shirik | hm, I can't get to stack overflow |
| 05:42.29 | mckenziemc1 | ~bonk |
| 05:42.29 | purl | somebody said bonk was moo |
| 05:42.38 | mckenziemc1 | fail purl |
| 05:42.45 | Shirik | ~moo |
| 05:42.45 | purl | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 05:42.47 | mckenziemc1 | ~bonk aoeu |
| 05:42.47 | purl | ACTION bonks mckenziemc1 on behalf of aoeu |
| 05:42.53 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: works for me |
| 05:42.53 | mckenziemc1 | :D |
| 05:42.53 | Shirik | aeiou |
| 05:42.56 | Shirik | aeiou aeiou |
| 05:43.20 | Arrowmaster | ~moo mckenziemc1 |
| 05:43.20 | purl | ACTION moos at mckenziemc1 |
| 05:43.24 | mckenziemc1 | Shirik: no connection was intended, that was the asdf of dvorak :( |
| 05:43.35 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo |
| 05:45.49 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
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| 05:46.54 | Kraps | Shirik: fukin lold |
| 05:47.16 | airtonix | these two ports on the right are for a combined uplink right ? http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=200_331&products_id=17151 |
| 05:47.31 | airtonix | plug a cable in each and they act like one? |
| 05:48.57 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8uLT_EIJjs&feature=related |
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| 05:49.13 | Iriel | I dont think so, aren't they just 1G ports |
| 05:49.18 | Iriel | versus all the rest which are 10/100 |
| 05:49.31 | airtonix | its a gigabit siwtch |
| 05:49.42 | airtonix | oh woops wrong one |
| 05:51.15 | airtonix | well anyway, regardless you're saying they're just normal 1g switch ports? |
| 05:51.22 | airtonix | nothing special? |
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| 05:56.27 | Galvin | is it possible to rotate a statusbar 180 degrees using settexcoord somehow? |
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| 06:04.13 | Kraps | eh http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/06/22/study-violent-video-games-linked-to-decreasing-crime-rates.aspx |
| 06:07.03 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/0f1de26e-01fd-4866-b86a-65fcb7b9263a.jpg |
| 06:07.49 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: i'm rather impressed they got all the pills on the spoon |
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| 06:11.54 | Kraps | night |
| 06:13.55 | Thunder_Child | day |
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| 06:44.14 | Torhal|work | I disapprove of your disapproval, Fisker. |
| 06:47.46 | mckenziemc1 | i approve of going to bed |
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| 08:06.45 | karl_w_w | wants %t to work when whispering on real ID |
| 08:07.05 | karl_w_w | idk if I should be blaming sylvanaar or blizzard |
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| 08:29.36 | zenzio | "I'd have stolen a lot fewer hotel-room keys had I known each would increase my likelihood of dying in an unfinished football stadium." |
| 08:29.39 | zenzio | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6441218/c-local-variables-memory-can-be-accessed-outside-its-scope |
| 08:30.33 | zenzio | "Somewhere there is a Hotel Manager explaining the problem of disappearing towels to an engineer using a memory leak analogy. " |
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| 09:04.43 | karl_w_w | top quality zenzio |
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| 09:07.00 | airtonix | zenzio: usomething? |
| 09:07.16 | karl_w_w | airtonix: uepic? |
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| 09:28.35 | karl_w_w | this data check has taken 12 hours to get to 55%? |
| 09:28.46 | karl_w_w | how much data do they have? :P |
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| 10:03.15 | Wobin | Today's teefury is kinda cool |
| 10:10.10 | karl_w_w | I usually don't approve of toon names that refer to their race/class, but "Smorgasworg" tickled me |
| 10:10.34 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: chkdsk on entire SANs can take ages |
| 10:11.24 | karl_w_w | ~24 hours, at this rate :P |
| 10:12.02 | Gnarfoz | no, since they didn't instantly replace the hardware that failed the moment it failed |
| 10:12.13 | Torhal | karl_w_w: At 9pm EST it was at 47% |
| 10:13.16 | Torhal | And now I go to bed so I can at least stroll into the office around noon. |
| 10:13.48 | karl_w_w | well i refreshed the page i was looking at |
| 10:13.53 | karl_w_w | and it said 55% complete |
| 10:14.03 | karl_w_w | then i checked mmochamp's facebook |
| 10:14.10 | bluspacecow | giggity |
| 10:14.21 | Torhal | Er, 9PM CST, rather |
| 10:14.25 | karl_w_w | and it said the post when he said they started checking data was 12 hours ago |
| 10:14.34 | Torhal | So at 1:30AM CST it was at 55% |
| 10:14.35 | karl_w_w | first post that shit was broken was 16 houts |
| 10:14.49 | Torhal | Yes, that was the hardware failure |
| 10:14.58 | Torhal | Whan that was resolved, the data check began. |
| 10:14.59 | karl_w_w | yeah, 4 hours to replace |
| 10:15.31 | Torhal | Yah. Remot datacenters can be bastards like that. |
| 10:15.35 | Torhal | remote* |
| 10:15.47 | Gnarfoz | 4h to replace is not even long |
| 10:15.59 | karl_w_w | but he said it exploded in their faces, how can it be remote? :P |
| 10:16.08 | Torhal | Who said that? |
| 10:16.08 | bluspacecow | easy |
| 10:16.17 | bluspacecow | they have this little package that's trigged by remote |
| 10:16.21 | Gnarfoz | it exploded in his face via ssh, now shut the hell up :p |
| 10:16.28 | bluspacecow | so when the servers go boom it goes boom in front of him :P |
| 10:16.29 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 10:16.53 | Torhal | Exaggerations do occur. Even liberties at wording. |
| 10:17.06 | Torhal | Bah. Sleep. |
| 10:17.23 | bluspacecow | is that an exaggeration as well ? |
| 10:17.31 | bluspacecow | your just a liddle bit sleepys ? |
| 10:18.37 | karl_w_w | I think maybe it exploded and sprayed electricities all over the data |
| 10:18.44 | karl_w_w | and now they have to wash it off |
| 10:18.49 | karl_w_w | thats why its taking so long |
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| 10:19.19 | bluspacecow | and they all have to transform into buxom women while doing so and also do it naked |
| 10:20.01 | karl_w_w | using a jet wash |
| 10:20.25 | bluspacecow | kinky :) |
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| 10:26.25 | zenzio | "According to a research paper produced from a collaboration between the University of Texas and the Centre for European Economic Research, violent video games may induce aggressive behavior, but the incapacitation effect outweighs this and produces a genuine reduction in violent crime. This paper was referenced in a BBC news story giving reasons why the US crime rates are falling (at least outside the prisons!)" |
| 10:26.47 | zenzio | I swear that argument (increases vs. decreases crime) won't stop until mankind goes extinct |
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| 10:31.03 | Gnarfoz | extinct from violent crime |
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| 11:09.59 | zenzio | I enjoyed that one, politically incorrect though it may be; but my Xbox *is* black(ish) |
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| 12:30.32 | foxlit | can has 1.3.5 patch notes? |
| 12:31.35 | zenzio | here you go: http://social.bioware.com/forum/Gameplay/General-Discussion/wow-135-patche-notes-few-good-ones-and-a-werid-one-here-3737936-1.html |
| 12:32.31 | foxlit | note http://www.warherald.com/patchnotes/index.php?id=2010_1-3-5#patch:-1_section:0 ? |
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| 12:32.55 | zenzio | I considered that, but my link came higher on my search |
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| 12:59.05 | Kraps | damn girl you crazy. crazy awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5DOKOt7ZF4&feature=player_embedded |
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| 13:11.00 | bluspacecow | lolz moi QQ on the supposed Curse spearphising attack and keylogger/trojan |
| 13:11.27 | Jamash | I hear lulzsec hacked curse and stole all the curseforge points |
| 13:12.01 | Kraps | http://twitter.com/#!/artsangel/status/83776455259074560 |
| 13:12.39 | TMc51 | Who watches Game of Thrones? |
| 13:12.51 | Jamash | I've seen the first episode |
| 13:13.04 | Jamash | also I've read all the books |
| 13:13.05 | TMc51 | Do you think it'd ruin the book for me if I were to start watching the show first? |
| 13:13.24 | Jamash | no, but you might punch a hole through your television |
| 13:13.46 | TMc51 | is it actually that bad? |
| 13:14.11 | Kraps | TMc51: idk but i watched lotr before reading the books and couldnt get though them |
| 13:14.24 | Jamash | TMc51: no, it's actually that good |
| 13:14.26 | TMc51 | I read the books before I seen the failtastic movies. |
| 13:15.00 | TMc51 | Kraps: If you haven't, try to at least read the Hobbit before the movie for it comes out. It's by far the best of the lot. |
| 13:15.21 | Kraps | i did read the hobbit |
| 13:15.54 | Jamash | TMc51: see the thing about the game of thrones series is that it has a huge cast of characters which it needs because there is an enormous mortality rate |
| 13:16.15 | TMc51 | wow |
| 13:16.36 | Jamash | so you may punch a hole in your TV when your favorite character dies |
| 13:16.39 | TMc51 | Soooo, I'm thinking I might just ordeer the book later. It's only $10 at Borders for paperback. |
| 13:17.03 | Jamash | there's four books now and one coming in july |
| 13:17.23 | TMc51 | yeah, a dance with the dragon is available for preorder |
| 13:17.44 | TMc51 | but its only in hardcover, so I'll be waiting a good while before i pony up and buy it. |
| 13:18.23 | Jamash | but be aware that the books are very, very large and dense |
| 13:18.35 | TMc51 | hmmmm, actually, forget about it, $10/book buying one at a time vs $20 for a boxed set of all 4. |
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| 13:19.03 | TMc51 | Large? Dense? Perfect! |
| 13:19.21 | Jamash | huge number of characters (living and deceased but still important for backstory), locations, factions, houses |
| 13:19.47 | Jamash | you need a scorecard about three feet long if you really want to know what's going on |
| 13:20.13 | Jamash | and of course tons of sex and violence |
| 13:20.27 | TMc51 | Song of Ice and Fire and Wheel of Time are the 2 series at the top of my list I've been meaning to get ahold of for a good while. |
| 13:20.39 | Jamash | skip WoT, read SoIaF twice imo |
| 13:20.57 | TMc51 | Why skip it? |
| 13:21.11 | TMc51 | I've heard the ones written by Robert Jordan are great. |
| 13:21.11 | Jamash | my friend Kris likes it |
| 13:21.20 | Jamash | and she can't stand SoIaF |
| 13:21.25 | Jamash | QED |
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| 13:23.05 | TMc51 | hmmmm |
| 13:23.23 | TMc51 | steak for breakfast, or pancake wrapped sausages on a stick? |
| 13:24.47 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5814759/how-heroes-of-newerth-suffered-a-catastrophic-hardware-failure |
| 13:25.44 | TMc51 | "it sounds like everything that could have gone wrong, no matter how astronomical the chances, went wrong" RUH ROH |
| 13:26.54 | Jamash | so when my sister and I were doing video game QA, one developer had a raid drive go out and then mirrored the new, blank drive over the remaining good drive |
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| 13:27.15 | TMc51 | ouch |
| 13:27.18 | Kraps | nice |
| 13:28.22 | Jamash | so when I read "the engineers noticed anomalies in the raid setup, causing a total loss of data on the master and slave boxes" I go http://goo.gl/Cs9lB |
| 13:30.14 | TMc51 | I kinda liekd the second comment. |
| 13:30.22 | TMc51 | Anomalies such as 'whoops! i just wiped the array, gosh golly!" |
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| 13:31.13 | Jamash | ^ |
| 13:31.36 | Xinhuan | what's teh discussion about jamash? |
| 13:31.46 | Xinhuan | regarding novels |
| 13:32.01 | Jamash | song of ice and fire and wind blowing snow over all the characters' graves |
| 13:32.14 | Xinhuan | blowing snow? |
| 13:32.44 | Xinhuan | i read WoT but i haven't read SoIaF |
| 13:32.45 | Jamash | [when asked if any of the cast of his book series, "A Song of Ice and Fire", will be left alive]: "No one will be alive by the last book. In fact, they all die in the fifth. The sixth book will be just a thousand-page description of snow blowing across the graves ..." |
| 13:33.05 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 13:33.17 | TMc51 | epic |
| 13:33.37 | Xinhuan | i can't wait for the finale book coming out this year for WoT |
| 13:33.51 | Xinhuan | its going to be as epic as harry potter book 7 |
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| 13:51.51 | jnwhiteh | more epic |
| 13:51.52 | jnwhiteh | imo |
| 13:52.07 | Ackis | WoT? |
| 13:52.11 | jnwhiteh | Wheel of Time |
| 13:52.14 | Ackis | ah |
| 13:52.39 | jnwhiteh | listening to the wheel of time on audio books currently takes 17 days, 11 hours |
| 13:52.42 | jnwhiteh | thank you wikipedia for stupid facts! |
| 13:59.18 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:59.30 | Xinhuan | depends on whether your player can speed up the playing |
| 14:00.05 | Xinhuan | i took 2 irl months to go through all 12 books again (on audio books) |
| 14:00.57 | Xinhuan | btw, anyone interested in sharing a room for blizzcon 2011? |
| 14:02.51 | Wobin | sigh |
| 14:02.59 | Wobin | I stopped reading WoT after path of daggers |
| 14:03.10 | Xinhuan | is that book 7 or so |
| 14:03.17 | Wobin | the prospect of an entire book of "Elayne Takes A Bath" was too much for me =( |
| 14:03.51 | Xinhuan | books 6-11 is very draggy, but 12 and 13 are reaaaaaally awesome with a ton of side plot closures |
| 14:04.06 | Wobin | Xinhuan: well.. that's cause Sanderson is writing them, no? |
| 14:04.12 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:04.21 | Wobin | I can't bring myself to get to that point =( |
| 14:04.23 | Xinhuan | and that's really why "book 12" needed to be 3 books |
| 14:04.27 | Wobin | it's too much to slog through |
| 14:04.37 | Xinhuan | go with the audio book route |
| 14:04.50 | Xinhuan | you can listen while traveling to and from work, etc |
| 14:04.51 | Wobin | however, as a recommendation for an audio book. I highly recommend American Gods |
| 14:05.06 | Wobin | and if you get the full cast version that's coming out, it'll be even more epic |
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| 14:07.52 | Wobin | re: SoIaF, density... http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=052011&p=relationships_in_game_of_thrones.jpg |
| 14:08.01 | cogwheel | why is everyone so certain the patch is next week when the only source is a no-longer-available jpg on mmo-champ? |
| 14:08.01 | Wobin | TMc51: ^ |
| 14:08.17 | cogwheel | s/no-longer/not-currently/ |
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| 14:09.11 | Wobin | man, game servers have been hit hard, recently =P |
| 14:10.10 | Kalroth | it was mentioned on the blizzard website, cogwheel |
| 14:10.23 | cogwheel | so why is no one linking to that? |
| 14:10.46 | Kalroth | because their site sucks! |
| 14:10.47 | cogwheel | every article google is coming up with is citing mmochamp |
| 14:11.00 | cogwheel | and google doesn't seem to see anything official |
| 14:11.05 | cogwheel | though i'm only 2 pages in... |
| 14:11.12 | bluspacecow | what jpg ? |
| 14:11.42 | bluspacecow | can't you use archive.org to retrieve a cached copy of it ? |
| 14:12.05 | cogwheel | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/june/releasedate.jpg |
| 14:13.33 | Xinhuan | cogwheel, because blizzard's own website states the date |
| 14:13.53 | cogwheel | [citation needed] |
| 14:14.08 | Xinhuan | the one you linked is good enough |
| 14:14.12 | cogwheel | umm |
| 14:14.14 | cogwheel | you kidding? |
| 14:14.17 | Xinhuan | (and is the one i was referring to) |
| 14:14.19 | cogwheel | have you clicked it? |
| 14:14.23 | cogwheel | that's not blizzard's own website |
| 14:14.28 | cogwheel | that's a broken link to mmo-champion |
| 14:14.40 | Xinhuan | the screenshot is cached on my computer |
| 14:14.44 | cogwheel | (link to broken mmo-champ) |
| 14:14.48 | Xinhuan | therefore i still see the screenshot |
| 14:14.50 | cogwheel | screenshot of what? |
| 14:14.56 | Xinhuan | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/june/releasedate.jpg |
| 14:14.57 | Kalroth | does it matter whether you believe it or not? :p |
| 14:15.13 | cogwheel | it doesn't matter if it comes out on the 28th or not |
| 14:15.14 | Xinhuan | i have that file in my browser cache |
| 14:15.26 | cogwheel | i just don't understand how people can state with such certainty |
| 14:15.34 | Xinhuan | its a screenshot of blizzard's website, cogwheel |
| 14:15.41 | cogwheel | when the ONLY piece of evidence is a screenshot posted on a fansite |
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| 14:16.04 | cogwheel | Xinhuan: and if there was a link instead of a screenshot it might make sense to take it without a grain of salt |
| 14:16.32 | cogwheel | I could make a screenshot of blizzard's website say anything i wanted to |
| 14:16.48 | cogwheel | i don't care about peolpe beliveing it... |
| 14:16.58 | cogwheel | just acting like they actually know something for certain is dumb |
| 14:17.22 | bluspacecow | anyone keep a local copy ? |
| 14:17.24 | Xinhuan | its fairly reasonable to assume the date is scheduled for it to have been put up there in the first place, with the assumption nothing major happens to disrupt it. furthermore, arena season ends on that same day |
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| 14:17.38 | Xinhuan | i can upload it to imgur heh |
| 14:17.41 | bluspacecow | 'cause if its a screenshot of the PTR login screen with the build number with "release" by it |
| 14:17.44 | bluspacecow | its not really proof |
| 14:17.50 | Kalroth | its from the website |
| 14:17.50 | Xinhuan | its not, its of the WEBSITE |
| 14:17.51 | Wobin | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2880562#blog |
| 14:17.52 | cogwheel | it's also fairly reasonable to assume that blizzard hasn't suddenly started providing release dates for patches for the first time in 6 years |
| 14:17.52 | bluspacecow | as its had that for the last 4 builds |
| 14:17.58 | Wobin | that's the arena season ending blog |
| 14:18.40 | Xinhuan | http://i.imgur.com/LTIDS.jpg |
| 14:18.43 | Xinhuan | this was the screenshot |
| 14:18.47 | Kalroth | Wobin: thats just a blog, we need REAL proof |
| 14:18.53 | Kalroth | someone call Blizzard HQ |
| 14:19.17 | cogwheel | like i said, i'm not saying people are wrong, and i'm not saying it's not going to happen next week. |
| 14:19.22 | Xinhuan | of course, blizzard subsequently took down the date |
| 14:19.22 | Xinhuan | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/patch-notes/ptr |
| 14:19.23 | cogwheel | i'm saying there has NOT been an official anouncement |
| 14:19.28 | Ackis | yes you are cogwheel |
| 14:19.29 | cogwheel | and anyone who says otherwise is being disingenuous |
| 14:19.53 | Xinhuan | look cogwheel |
| 14:19.54 | Xinhuan | you asked: |
| 14:19.55 | Xinhuan | [6/23 22:07:52] <cogwheel> why is everyone so certain the patch is next week when the only source is a no-longer-available jpg on mmo-champ? |
| 14:20.02 | Xinhuan | and we provided the reason: mmo-champ provided a screenshot |
| 14:20.12 | Xinhuan | none of us agreed the date is set in stone |
| 14:20.40 | cogwheel | i never accused you of that, and whether the screenshot was available or not was somewhat irrelevant |
| 14:20.46 | Dagmar | Jeez I feel like I should be sending get-well cards and putting out donation jars at gas stations for Curse |
| 14:21.19 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: you got to a bad book and gave up =) |
| 14:21.20 | cogwheel | the fact is that EVERY article i read saying that June 28th is confirmed (without any qualification) was citing a screenshot on a fansite |
| 14:21.29 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: A whole book. |
| 14:21.33 | Wobin | Of Elayne bathing |
| 14:21.35 | cogwheel | a screenshot of a blog entry that probably just has whatever date they had in mind at the time they were writing it |
| 14:21.42 | Wobin | I couldn't bring myself >< |
| 14:21.43 | cogwheel | Nothing has been confirmed |
| 14:21.46 | jnwhiteh | that didn't happen |
| 14:21.46 | jnwhiteh | so =) |
| 14:21.52 | cogwheel | although there is plenty of circumstantial evidence |
| 14:21.57 | Wobin | also, it didn't have Mat |
| 14:21.58 | Xinhuan | Wobin... lol |
| 14:21.59 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: also http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=052011&p=relationships_in_game_of_thrones.jpg is not up to date =) |
| 14:22.08 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: no doubt |
| 14:22.15 | Xinhuan | book 9 or was it 10.. 1/3 of the book is dedicated to Mat ;P |
| 14:22.25 | Wobin | but it's a decent show of how complex the series is |
| 14:22.27 | Xinhuan | and how he got married to umm |
| 14:22.29 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 14:22.44 | Wobin | Daugter of the Moon? |
| 14:22.49 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:23.11 | Xinhuan | it was prophesized/revealed in book 3, so i didn't really spoil anything |
| 14:23.13 | Wobin | crosses his arms under his breasts, tugs his braid and goes "Hmmph! Woolhead!" |
| 14:23.25 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 14:23.32 | Wobin | also, the portrayal of the women drove me nuts =P |
| 14:23.38 | Dagmar | Reminder: You're watching a fucking soap opera |
| 14:23.40 | jnwhiteh | get over it =) |
| 14:23.44 | jnwhiteh | its an amazing series |
| 14:23.45 | Xinhuan | that also changed with brendan taken over the series |
| 14:24.02 | Xinhuan | he portrayed women jordan-style ONCE at the start, then never did it again |
| 14:24.03 | Dagmar | It's a soap. |
| 14:24.20 | Xinhuan | i.e as naggy-women from rand's POV |
| 14:24.25 | jnwhiteh | what is a 'jordan-style woman portrayal' |
| 14:24.26 | Wobin | Dagmar: It's a soap if Rand wakes up at the end of book 13. And it's all a dream =P |
| 14:24.38 | Dagmar | Nah, it's pretty much still a soap regardless |
| 14:24.46 | jnwhiteh | I don't think its fair to say that he's consistently portrayed women in the same way at all |
| 14:25.03 | Dagmar | Women *never* nag |
| 14:25.08 | Xinhuan | jordan-style women portrayer is basically the way he always writes of women from men's point of view that their thinking is different and always so naggy |
| 14:25.24 | Xinhuan | and also in reverse |
| 14:25.30 | jnwhiteh | that's unfair |
| 14:25.30 | Xinhuan | "Pah! Men!" - nynaeve |
| 14:25.33 | jnwhiteh | it depends ENTIRELY on the prespective |
| 14:25.36 | Wobin | "I wish I knew more about women, the way <Shift one male character left> does!" |
| 14:25.44 | jnwhiteh | the series is based around conflict between women and men |
| 14:25.48 | jnwhiteh | its not his bias, its the freaking story |
| 14:25.49 | Xinhuan | wobin isn't the only person who commented on this though |
| 14:25.56 | jnwhiteh | and shockingly, when rand changes his mind, his perspective changes |
| 14:25.58 | jnwhiteh | I just disagree with it |
| 14:26.03 | Dagmar | lol |
| 14:26.04 | Xinhuan | a large number of people noted this |
| 14:26.05 | jnwhiteh | its intrinsic to the story in many ways |
| 14:26.06 | Dagmar | Get to khow more women |
| 14:27.15 | Wobin | I'm pretty sure it took Nyneave at least 7 books to not fall back on the "I'll pull Rand al'Thor over here by his ear! He's such a woolhead!" |
| 14:27.38 | jnwhiteh | 7 books over which almost no time passed |
| 14:28.00 | Wobin | that's another reason I stopped reading it =( |
| 14:28.01 | jnwhiteh | and again, an defining event in the story changed her perspective |
| 14:28.08 | jnwhiteh | all I have to say is QQ more |
| 14:28.09 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 14:28.13 | Wobin | well |
| 14:28.18 | Wobin | I'm not reading it |
| 14:28.22 | Wobin | and I'm perfectly happy about it =P |
| 14:28.29 | jnwhiteh | then stop QQing from a distance =) |
| 14:28.33 | jnwhiteh | you suck, we know it, we can all move on :P |
| 14:28.35 | Wobin | what's QQ? |
| 14:28.43 | Wobin | you're just adamant to defend it =P |
| 14:28.50 | Wobin | so it seems you're QQing more about it =P |
| 14:28.51 | jnwhiteh | no, I just think you're wrong |
| 14:28.56 | jnwhiteh | and you're not he internet |
| 14:28.56 | Wobin | good enough |
| 14:28.58 | jnwhiteh | we all know how that goes |
| 14:29.00 | Kalroth | I think you're both not right |
| 14:29.10 | jnwhiteh | in the head, most certainly |
| 14:29.14 | Wobin | agrees to disagree with jnwhiteh about the series |
| 14:29.24 | jnwhiteh | NO, you must disagree to agree |
| 14:29.26 | jnwhiteh | or I wont' stop! |
| 14:29.37 | Wobin | I prefer single focus character books, now |
| 14:30.09 | Xinhuan | like harry potter? :P |
| 14:30.09 | Wobin | any series where you ahve to keep tens of characters in the foremind to understand relationships and the like, is just too distracting for me to enjoy it |
| 14:30.13 | Xinhuan | which arguably isn't single person |
| 14:30.27 | Wobin | Harry Potter was a good tabloid read |
| 14:30.43 | Xinhuan | one of the problems with WoT is that it was written over a time period of 20 years |
| 14:30.45 | Wobin | it never really drew me in really deeply |
| 14:30.48 | Dagmar | Wobin: I take a more simnplified approach and just wait for bewbies |
| 14:31.01 | Xinhuan | so while the first 5 books are ok, the later tend to be stretched out |
| 14:31.11 | Xinhuan | but books 12/13 made it all worth it :) |
| 14:31.22 | Dagmar | If a character both a) matters and b) is properly developed, they'll start to stick out anyway |
| 14:31.31 | Dagmar | er the character |
| 14:31.38 | Xinhuan | if you want to know a bad series, it is the Sword of Truth series.... the story is good, but the writing is sooooooooooo bad |
| 14:31.40 | Wobin | I started reading Wizards First Rule |
| 14:31.45 | Wobin | hahah xin |
| 14:31.52 | Wobin | hi5's Xinhuan |
| 14:32.13 | Xinhuan | i actually had to force myself to finish the series just to know the ending |
| 14:32.19 | Wobin | but when I got up to path of blood... or whatever it's called, I had to stop the book midway and put it down |
| 14:32.59 | Wobin | there was a good review site, that lampooned the entire series |
| 14:33.08 | Wobin | mst3k style |
| 14:33.22 | Wobin | I wish I'd bookmarked it |
| 14:33.52 | Wobin | http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2006/08/goodkind-parodies.html |
| 14:34.31 | sylvanaar | karl_w_w: for what |
| 14:35.19 | airtonix | Wobin: i recommend the Cat in the Hat series |
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| 14:35.33 | Wobin | airtonix: I -love- that series! |
| 14:35.38 | Dagmar | wobin: THat is... awesome. |
| 14:35.40 | Wobin | it's so deep |
| 14:35.52 | Kraps_w | what is? |
| 14:36.16 | sylvanaar | let me guesss you started out talking about song of ice and fire |
| 14:36.34 | Xinhuan | did you guess, or did you scroll up |
| 14:36.44 | sylvanaar | how many books in that series? |
| 14:36.48 | Wobin | Kraps_w: the series written by Theodor Geisel |
| 14:36.49 | sylvanaar | i guessed |
| 14:36.53 | Kraps_w | wow that was an hour ago |
| 14:37.01 | sylvanaar | ijust woke up and am eating cereal |
| 14:37.31 | Dagmar | He should have jsut stuck with his elves |
| 14:37.36 | Dagmar | He was doing okay back then |
| 14:38.37 | airtonix | sylvanaar: ucereal? |
| 14:39.02 | karl_w_w | sylvanaar: when you use %t in a real ID whisper it doesnt work |
| 14:39.10 | sylvanaar | focereal |
| 14:39.19 | airtonix | can you believe it brother? |
| 14:39.31 | sylvanaar | really? |
| 14:39.49 | Dagmar | Oh wait, that was Terry Brooks i was thinking of. |
| 14:40.00 | Dagmar | Hmm.. I guess Goodkind's always kinda sucked |
| 14:40.03 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 14:40.06 | jnwhiteh | I've not read Goodkind yet. |
| 14:40.14 | airtonix | after telling our voip provider to use public keys and move the ssh port from the standard 22 port... they tried to charge us AGAIN fro the time it took to fix their fuckup that i discovered last week... |
| 14:40.22 | jnwhiteh | everyone tells me not to |
| 14:40.22 | Ackis | I liked the sword of truth series for the most part |
| 14:40.29 | sylvanaar | i dont have time for 10+ book sagas |
| 14:40.30 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: He's heading the way of certain other fiction authors who sniff their own farts |
| 14:40.38 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 14:40.44 | Ackis | what I didn't like about it was it seemed there was a LOT of repitation |
| 14:40.47 | Dagmar | Any day now we'll hear about the Church of Wizardology |
| 14:40.51 | airtonix | i'm tempted to learn how to deploy an asteriks server now |
| 14:40.58 | Kraps_w | Wobin: yes, the one with the Felis catus anwearing the headgear was particularly satisfying |
| 14:41.09 | Kraps_w | -an |
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| 14:41.21 | Dagmar | airtonix: First, you buy a lot of expensive and strange hardware |
| 14:41.39 | Dagmar | ...or you stick with VOIP connectors |
| 14:41.44 | airtonix | why |
| 14:42.03 | airtonix | they just use a linux server and a standard adsl connection for us |
| 14:42.11 | airtonix | and voip phones on the desk |
| 14:42.12 | Dagmar | Strangely most telephones don't work when plugged into an ethernet switch. THat's why. |
| 14:42.31 | airtonix | well our phones are special |
| 14:42.46 | Dagmar | Yeah we've got a buncha VOIP gear here as well |
| 14:42.52 | airtonix | i'm better than you |
| 14:42.56 | Wobin | one day I'll go back to reading the Belgariad and Mallorean |
| 14:42.57 | Dagmar | If I could get Win7 to stop being stupid about which sound device is for what, I'd be set |
| 14:42.58 | Xinhuan | omg Wobin |
| 14:43.01 | Xinhuan | brilliant website |
| 14:43.03 | Xinhuan | http://sandstormreviews.blogspot.com/2006/08/goodkind-meets-robert-jordan-wheel-of.html |
| 14:43.04 | Xinhuan | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 14:43.08 | Wobin | they still hold a part of my heart =) |
| 14:43.31 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smaaRCG4l6Q |
| 14:43.40 | Wobin | Xinhuan: hahahahaha oh god |
| 14:43.52 | Xinhuan | that is SOOOO like them |
| 14:44.14 | Wobin | it's like a -terrible- madlibs |
| 14:44.38 | Wobin | "Insert SoT phrases into <Other Story> framework" |
| 14:45.00 | Xinhuan | so good, so good |
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| 14:45.32 | Dagmar | Eeeeeff the wheel of time |
| 14:45.38 | Dagmar | Seriously. |
| 14:45.54 | Dagmar | How many books should you really have to read before the porotagonist grows a pair |
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| 14:46.17 | Xinhuan | i really like WoT because the world is incredibly detailed and well crafted |
| 14:46.31 | Dagmar | ...and they drag you through most of it, on foot. |
| 14:46.39 | Xinhuan | only part i didn't like was the book 6-10 plot being stretched out too long |
| 14:46.44 | Wobin | Dagmar: like LotR =) |
| 14:46.47 | Xinhuan | but its still good |
| 14:47.00 | Wobin | Now -there's- a book I couldn't reread |
| 14:47.13 | Dagmar | Wobin: The trip to Mordor is like a journey to the Other End Of The Mall by comparison |
| 14:47.18 | Xinhuan | LoTR feltthe same way. walk into a town, and tolkien spends 18 pages describing the town and its history |
| 14:47.31 | Wobin | that's why I liked the movies |
| 14:47.36 | Wobin | it.. condensed things |
| 14:47.56 | Dagmar | LoTR had varied cultures and races |
| 14:48.09 | Dagmar | WoT... well, here's another village ful of dirt farmers. |
| 14:48.33 | Xinhuan | WOT 6-10 might be drawn out, but it developed characters well, unlike in LoTR, writing 18 pages about a town doesn't contribute a bit to the story or character development |
| 14:48.36 | Dagmar | Oh crap, someone might have been seen coming this way... we should rush off and find another patch of dirt farmers to hang out with |
| 14:49.01 | Xinhuan | it only added lore |
| 14:49.03 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: Does book 12 ever explain the Ways? |
| 14:49.10 | airtonix | EMBARK THE VEHIKLE |
| 14:49.21 | Wobin | (in WoT) |
| 14:49.37 | Xinhuan | the ways was revisted in book 11 or 12 |
| 14:49.42 | Dagmar | Wobin: Wasn't that one fo the ones that happened *after* the author died? |
| 14:49.48 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:50.00 | Wobin | I'm depending on Sanderson to actually fufill the series as it should have ended |
| 14:50.20 | Kraps_w | mentions harry potter just to see what happens |
| 14:50.20 | Dagmar | I'm not. I was cheering for the bad guys before I quit them |
| 14:50.21 | Wobin | I think, the way Jordan was going, it'd've taken at least another 5 books before he wound it up |
| 14:50.54 | Wobin | but Sanderson has impetus to actually resolve all of the myriad of plot points that developed over the series |
| 14:50.57 | Xinhuan | so far he's doing it right, a ton of side plot closures |
| 14:51.00 | Dagmar | lol |
| 14:51.05 | Xinhuan | and converging them towards the final battle |
| 14:51.27 | Xinhuan | but in several interviews, sanderson has also said that the entire series was already planned by jordan |
| 14:51.34 | Xinhuan | including the ending |
| 14:51.56 | Wobin | maybe, but he was taking his sweet time getting around to it >< |
| 14:52.08 | Xinhuan | so, while sanderson also said he added in extra stuff as well, we wont know what he added and what jordan wanted |
| 14:52.23 | Wobin | At one stage, Kahlan has to lead an small army in a fight against a large one, in winter. Her cunning plan is to have all the soldiers strip naked and paint themselves white, so the enemy will think they are ghosts. Surprisingly, this works. All deserters who were given the option to leave before the battle are later tracked down and killed. |
| 14:52.41 | Xinhuan | one of teh wot fansites got readers to guess who wrote which chapters in book 12 (because about 1/3 of it is written by jordan) |
| 14:53.05 | Xinhuan | and half the people guessed different from the other half |
| 14:53.06 | Wobin | it'd hardly be a chapter by chapter split, though |
| 14:53.34 | Wobin | Sanderson would have rewritten much of what Jordan wrote, so it'd not jar the difference in writing style |
| 14:54.30 | Xinhuan | you should finish reading it from whereveer you left off, or restart from 1 (audio books!) you'll just be in time for the finale when it comes out |
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| 14:54.37 | Xinhuan | in november |
| 14:58.01 | Wobin | oh yes. Goodkind really really likes Objectvism |
| 15:02.02 | Wobin | is an Audible account worth it? |
| 15:05.28 | Wobin | hm, the drawback to audiobooks, is that if the narrator has an accent, it can really throw you off =\ |
| 15:06.45 | Kraps_w | Wobin: also being on the net makes it hard to concentrate |
| 15:07.02 | Wobin | eh? |
| 15:07.02 | Kraps_w | i have this with podcasts all the time |
| 15:07.06 | Wobin | ah |
| 15:07.15 | Wobin | I listen to them on the way to and back from work |
| 15:07.27 | Xinhuan | i don't have that issue |
| 15:07.36 | Xinhuan | or rather, i haven't come across that issue |
| 15:07.49 | Wobin | Xinhuan: it occurs for me if I've read the book before |
| 15:07.57 | Wobin | and already mentally assigned an accent to characters |
| 15:08.09 | Wobin | "Why is X suddenly American?" |
| 15:08.17 | Kraps_w | yeah, just entering numbers on the computer isnt a problem, but even just typing in chat can make me miss things |
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| 15:10.35 | Wobin | http://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B0055274U2 <-- recommended |
| 15:13.24 | Fisker | omg diiiicks |
| 15:13.29 | Fisker | i as without server for an hour |
| 15:13.30 | Fisker | AN HOUR |
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| 15:15.09 | Liath | No one? Dawwww |
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| 15:15.23 | Wobin | >< script kiddies |
| 15:15.37 | Dagmar | Doin' it wrong |
| 15:16.05 | Kraps_w | doin it live |
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| 15:16.54 | Wobin | oh man, book -20- of Anita Blake? |
| 15:19.55 | Kraps_w | yahoo wants to buy hulu nooooooooooo |
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| 15:34.43 | Fisker | om nom nom Wobin |
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| 15:52.06 | durcyn | Kraps_w: they found the only way hulu could suck more, eh? |
| 15:52.46 | Kraps_w | hey now, i like hulu |
| 15:53.22 | Lunessa | What did I miss? |
| 15:54.01 | Kraps_w | yahoo wants to buy hulu |
| 15:54.48 | Lunessa | ... |
| 15:55.01 | Lunessa | yahoo manages to screw up pretty much everything. |
| 15:56.14 | Kraps_w | but that was an aside, the headline was that hulu wants to sell itself |
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| 16:05.42 | Gnarfoz | perhaps if they get bought, maybe they'll be available somewhere else than the fuckin US |
| 16:09.53 | Fisker | no Gnarfoz |
| 16:10.21 | Fisker | buying hulu doesn't remove copyright trolls |
| 16:12.35 | Gnarfoz | no, but maybe yahoo would even bother to check into that area |
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| 16:20.53 | Kraps_w | yahoo in known for just letting whatever they get sit |
| 16:21.06 | Kraps_w | and stagnate |
| 16:23.10 | mckenziemc | is anyone working on updating the coordinates for the midsummer fires in tourguide or wowpedia? |
| 16:23.54 | nicoli_s | mckenziemc:yer a rift person now, no wow talk for you |
| 16:24.05 | mckenziemc | wut |
| 16:24.58 | durcyn | you must pick a side in the sissy slap fight that is mmo nerd rivalry |
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| 16:25.11 | durcyn | what you might not realize is that the only way to win is not to play |
| 16:25.17 | nicoli_s | and just being in riftuidev once is enough to turn you |
| 16:25.38 | mckenziemc | (tbh i haven't played rift yet :p ) |
| 16:26.00 | mckenziemc | i'll probably try it sometime, once addons are widely available :O |
| 16:26.47 | Fisker | will they also let it wither and die Kraps_w ? |
| 16:29.23 | Kraps_w | thats kind of what im saying, but it'll take a while due to its size, so hopefully someone will grab it before it happens |
| 16:30.57 | Fisker | i hate copyright trolls |
| 16:31.07 | Fisker | for example we're not allowed to see the daily show full episode views |
| 16:31.16 | Fisker | but we can just watch the frontpage or the videos section |
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| 16:34.55 | mckenziemc | flogs Rift-Bot |
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| 16:39.06 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 16:39.12 | mckenziemc | food |
| 16:42.03 | Kraps_w | "Finally, JK Rowling maybe has figured out a way to monetize HP. Starving artists should be rewarded." umm shes not quite starving anymore y'know? |
| 16:42.20 | nicoli_s | shes starving for more millions |
| 16:42.27 | Kraps_w | unless thats a sarcastic shot at her |
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| 16:46.59 | foxlit | it obviously is |
| 16:47.23 | foxlit | "monetize HP" should've rung some bells |
| 16:47.26 | Nobgul-BNC | ~pil |
| 16:47.27 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 16:50.11 | Dagmar | foxlit: It was funnier before I scrolled up and realized you were talking about Harry Potter |
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| 16:52.10 | Kraps_w | i think the monetizing started when she gave WB the movie rights :p |
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| 16:57.27 | Dagmar | Owwwch. SAN failure? Sheesh |
| 16:57.40 | Kraps_w | physical bookstores are not happy that the ebook will be exclusive to her website |
| 16:57.47 | Dagmar | There's a vendor gettin an epic ass-chewing i'm sure |
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| 16:58.24 | Dagmar | Kraps: Perhaps they should have shown the ebook more respect |
| 16:58.52 | Dagmar | ...instead of punting about with "eBooks? That sounds like it should be even more expensive!" |
| 16:59.13 | Dagmar | TO hell with those dead tree humpers |
| 16:59.58 | Torhal | "dead-tree humpers", or "dead tree-humpers"? |
| 17:00.04 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:00.08 | Torhal | goes to work |
| 17:00.16 | kd3 | still boggles at how both san controllers go down at once |
| 17:00.19 | mckenziemc | throws Torhal into a wood chipper |
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| 17:04.03 | Dewin | kd3: Curse? |
| 17:04.43 | Dewin | I've been wondering what the full story of the downtime is. |
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| 17:07.09 | Ackis | Dewin: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/i709d/can_we_get_an_explanation_from_curse_as_to_why/c21emh0 |
| 17:08.00 | Dewin | oh ouch. |
| 17:08.21 | kd3 | http://twitter.com/#!/ChadMoran |
| 17:08.27 | kd3 | one of curse's software engineers |
| 17:08.46 | nicoli_s | he also shouldnt be tweeting that sutff, but oh well :P |
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| 17:10.09 | Lunessa | This is cool. http://newsgrist.typepad.com/joygarnett/2011/06/lost-library-project.html |
| 17:10.10 | Dewin | I've heard that one of the reasons you don't run something like RAID 5 on large arrays is the high likelihood of one drive failing before you finish rebuilding the array after another failure. I'm guessing Curse isn't running that level of RAID (it's terrible for performance, for one thing), but I wonder if it was something similar. Especially if both SANs were purchased at the same time and are by the same mfr. |
| 17:10.38 | nicoli_s | Dewin:it was the controller that had issues, not the drive itself |
| 17:12.50 | Kraps_w | you guys are discovered, give it up http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/i709d/can_we_get_an_explanation_from_curse_as_to_why/c21eoww |
| 17:13.26 | Dagmar | Dewin: Yeah well the problem with that is that there aren't that many better options |
| 17:13.36 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:14.14 | Kraps_w | nicoli_s: i'm not interested in your paid denials |
| 17:14.30 | nicoli_s | im up in yer details selling them for cizash |
| 17:14.51 | Ackis | nicoli_s: if you're selling the details why didn't I get a cut of the proceeds? :( |
| 17:15.00 | Dagmar | Kraps: I like how the MInecraft guys are whining, having no idea that there's probably 10x more people than just them affected. |
| 17:15.08 | Dagmar | s/guys/players/ |
| 17:15.32 | nicoli_s | Ackis:cuz yer too far away to just give you the cash |
| 17:15.42 | nicoli_s | and what would you do with it anyways? yall got that crazy silly money |
| 17:15.47 | Dewin | Dagmar: On the drive said, I imagine you can work around it some by mixing drive manufacturers/models and staggering purchase dates but that's debatable. It might also make flakier raid controllers more likely to, well, flake out. |
| 17:16.15 | Gnarfoz | Dewin: xtek said they are indeed running raid 5 (albeit raid 50), so yeah, there's that rebuild risk; but this wasn't the problem this time ;o |
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| 17:17.07 | Kraps_w | Dagmar: curse has a minecraft site? |
| 17:17.19 | Dewin | minecraftforum.net |
| 17:17.22 | Gnarfoz | they host the minecraft forum |
| 17:17.31 | nicoli_s | and wiki |
| 17:17.53 | Fisker | hey gn Arrowmaster |
| 17:17.55 | Fisker | sex? |
| 17:18.12 | Fisker | Gnarfoz of course |
| 17:18.15 | Fisker | Arrowmaster is frigid |
| 17:18.26 | Fisker | lol kd3 is chad a moran? |
| 17:18.52 | Kraps_w | mmo-fucking-champion is down, theres a bit of a size difference |
| 17:20.34 | Dewin | You guys can blame me. I happened to be browsing mmo-champ at the moment of the crash. |
| 17:20.45 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 17:20.48 | Dewin | I literally loaded the homepage, it was fine, clicked a link, boom. |
| 17:22.02 | zenzelezz | they must have encountered some heavy data during the verification, according to the message on MMOC it's been at 55% verification for hours now |
| 17:22.50 | mckenziemc | or it just hasn't been updated in hours :p |
| 17:24.24 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: no way, that observation can only made by people who don't have shit for brains, and those seem to be rare today |
| 17:24.52 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 17:27.27 | nicoli_s | zenzelezz:i think its further along than that, we just havent updated it recently |
| 17:27.41 | nicoli_s | as the people who would do that are on their way to the data center |
| 17:29.01 | zenzelezz | but it's a site frequented by geeks, how do you expect not to get comments like mine about this! ;) |
| 17:29.49 | Torhal|work | Fisker: kd3 is not Chad Moran - xtek is |
| 17:29.49 | Gnarfoz | if it was frequented by geeks, I'd expect them to not be moronic enough to assume a filesystem check staying on 55% for 9 hours |
| 17:31.08 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: or to recognise jokes without relying on smileys |
| 17:31.09 | Fisker | i didn't say kd3 was Chad Moran |
| 17:31.10 | Thunder_Child | he didnt say kd3 is |
| 17:31.13 | Fisker | i was asking if Chad was a moran |
| 17:31.39 | nicoli_s | chad is sitting right next to me crying cuz of all the mean things yer saying fisker |
| 17:31.44 | Torhal|work | Yay to me for glance-reading. |
| 17:31.56 | Fisker | aww nicoli_s |
| 17:31.58 | Fisker | kiss him for me |
| 17:32.11 | nicoli_s | no thanks |
| 17:32.18 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:32.24 | Fisker | you're not a good friend |
| 17:32.41 | Thunder_Child | what mean thing did Fisker say? |
| 17:32.43 | Torhal|work | sets Fisker on fire, then pisses on him to put it out. |
| 17:32.46 | Thunder_Child | i mean, at this moment |
| 17:32.50 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: 'joke' right |
| 17:33.08 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 17:33.57 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: if you don't get such jokes, you're not in my target audience :-) And retorting with "moronic" seems to suggest that assessment is correct |
| 17:34.26 | Shadowed | rolleyes |
| 17:34.50 | Fisker | why are your eyes rolling Shadowed ? |
| 17:35.40 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7veM5_HGBFE |
| 17:36.28 | Fisker | hehe Lunessa |
| 17:36.29 | Fisker | neil gaiman |
| 17:36.31 | Fisker | hoho |
| 17:37.33 | Fisker | get it? |
| 17:53.19 | Arrowmaster | im bored, what games should i play |
| 17:54.05 | mckenziemc | tic tac toe |
| 17:54.15 | Arrowmaster | too easy |
| 17:54.29 | mckenziemc | minesweeper |
| 17:54.31 | Arrowmaster | and i ment on my 360 |
| 17:54.39 | Arrowmaster | dont have minesweeper |
| 17:54.48 | Arrowmaster | and thats too easy too when you know the cheats |
| 17:55.06 | mckenziemc | cheats? |
| 17:55.06 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 17:55.17 | Arrowmaster | you dont know about the cheats in minesweeper? |
| 17:55.32 | mckenziemc | you mean the one that doesn't work anymore, with the pixel changing? |
| 17:55.42 | Arrowmaster | they removed it? |
| 17:55.45 | mckenziemc | afaik |
| 17:58.01 | Arrowmaster | but still, what to play on my 360 |
| 17:58.02 | Fisker | they did |
| 17:58.11 | Fisker | i used to use that in xp to pick up chicks |
| 17:58.18 | Fisker | but it doesn't work in Windows 7 |
| 18:01.04 | Fisker | ok |
| 18:01.04 | Fisker | ? |
| 18:03.58 | Fisker | hello Cairenn |
| 18:04.03 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 18:04.05 | Fisker | wanna see my minesweeper skills? |
| 18:04.12 | Cairenn | k |
| 18:04.14 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2011/06/how-i-got-a-company-to-stop-giving-out-our-number-as-tech-support.html |
| 18:04.31 | bluspacecow | *bomb* 0 |
| 18:04.36 | bluspacecow | ^^^ mine |
| 18:04.53 | Fisker | see Arrowmaster ? |
| 18:04.58 | Fisker | chicks dig my minesweeper cheats |
| 18:06.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 18:09.20 | Cairenn | ~purl, who made you? |
| 18:09.20 | purl | xk did. |
| 18:09.29 | Cairenn | >< |
| 18:09.33 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 18:09.33 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, timriker is a noob who does c/p |
| 18:09.42 | mckenziemc | ~owner |
| 18:09.42 | purl | TimRiker is my owner |
| 18:09.49 | Cairenn | growls at purl |
| 18:09.57 | mckenziemc | lo |
| 18:09.58 | mckenziemc | l* |
| 18:10.20 | mckenziemc | ~help mail |
| 18:13.43 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 18:13.49 | Fisker | i work at Blizzard |
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| 18:13.56 | bluspacecow | lolwzer |
| 18:14.06 | Fisker | you know why bluspacecow ? |
| 18:14.16 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 18:14.20 | bluspacecow | icecream? |
| 18:14.23 | Fisker | because i wrote on facebook that i do |
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| 18:20.01 | ben_alman | is there a general, non-programming, wow channel in irc? |
| 18:20.13 | ben_alman | i need to find out the answer to a possibly stupid question |
| 18:20.17 | mckenziemc | Cairenn |
| 18:20.24 | mckenziemc | ~timriker's pager |
| 18:20.24 | purl | [timriker's pager] mailto:Tim@Rikers.org |
| 18:20.27 | mckenziemc | ~seen timriker |
| 18:20.29 | purl | timriker is currently on #bzflag (2h 12m 41s) #ldstech (2h 12m 41s) #utah (2h 12m 41s) #infobot (2h 12m 41s) #saygus (2h 12m 41s) #elinux (2h 12m 41s), last said: 'would also be nice if there was a --disable-all-builds, etc. such that build would fail if system lib was not there.'. |
| 18:21.55 | mckenziemc | could try #wowhead |
| 18:22.08 | Nobgul-bnc | ben_alman, depending on the question . you can ask here and we could answer |
| 18:22.18 | ben_alman | hmmn |
| 18:22.20 | Nobgul-bnc | there is also #wowhead as mckenziemc pointed out. |
| 18:22.36 | ben_alman | yeah, the worst that happens is that i lose all ability to code lua and you all laugh |
| 18:22.41 | Nobgul-bnc | imho no reason not to ask |
| 18:22.43 | ben_alman | sure |
| 18:23.46 | ben_alman | can my lowbie main purchase heirloom gear for itself as it levels, or do i need to have a lvl 80 grind the honor to buy the heirloom gear? |
| 18:24.06 | Nobgul-bnc | You need the honor, and or what ever rquiment there is |
| 18:24.13 | Nobgul-bnc | requirment* |
| 18:24.16 | ben_alman | sure, if i get the honor on my lowbie |
| 18:24.30 | ben_alman | i didn't know if only high-levels could actually purchase the gear |
| 18:24.32 | Nobgul-bnc | I think most of it is justice point's isn't it? |
| 18:24.37 | ben_alman | honor points |
| 18:24.56 | Nobgul-bnc | The pvp stuff yes. But no there is no minimum level to purchase that i have seen. but i will check for you |
| 18:25.10 | mckenziemc | there migth be a minimum level for the stuff to show up on the vendor |
| 18:25.29 | ben_alman | i see it in the vendor, and it's not red |
| 18:25.42 | ben_alman | but red only means i can't use it, not can't buy it, right? i dunno |
| 18:25.45 | mckenziemc | then i believe you can buy them at low level |
| 18:25.45 | Nobgul-bnc | Then you can buy it |
| 18:25.55 | ben_alman | that'd be awesome |
| 18:26.11 | ben_alman | i stopped playing in 2007 and i have no desire to level my 70 hunter any further |
| 18:26.13 | Nobgul-bnc | As far as i can see there is no minum level to buy it. |
| 18:26.20 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: danke |
| 18:26.27 | ben_alman | ok |
| 18:26.38 | ben_alman | i'd just hate to grind the honor and then not be able to get the gear :P |
| 18:27.04 | ben_alman | i went from hating pallies to running one |
| 18:27.08 | Arrowmaster | would be quicker to grind the honor on your hunter |
| 18:27.08 | ben_alman | it's hilarious |
| 18:27.22 | ben_alman | Arrowmaster, really? |
| 18:27.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah from what i remember, you get more honor at higher levels |
| 18:27.47 | ben_alman | i just find it so weird to run the hunter now. like, the last time i played it, hunters had mana |
| 18:27.54 | ben_alman | it's so different |
| 18:28.07 | ben_alman | i wish i had a mage, then i'd just have 3 buttons to press |
| 18:28.11 | Arrowmaster | stuff like BG bonus honor i mean, get more at higher levels, dont know about honor per kill |
| 18:28.20 | ben_alman | but with the hunter there's like over 9000 spells |
| 18:28.23 | ben_alman | hmmn |
| 18:28.27 | ben_alman | it's worth trying |
| 18:28.30 | Dewin | ben_alnan: "I win", "Blink" and "Iceblock"? |
| 18:28.33 | ben_alman | no reason i can't run the hunter |
| 18:28.43 | Dewin | alman* I really ought to remember that pidgin works with tab completion. |
| 18:28.52 | ben_alman | :P |
| 18:29.08 | ben_alman | it's really funny, when i look at the Ace and other libs |
| 18:29.16 | ben_alman | it reminds me of the kind of stuff I do for JavaScript |
| 18:29.22 | Nobgul-bnc | You could grind dungeons as well. the justice points can be converted to honor. just not sure if you get justice in the lvl 70 ones or not |
| 18:29.23 | ben_alman | i was a few years late with WoW |
| 18:29.27 | ben_alman | hmmn |
| 18:29.38 | ben_alman | well, i'd rather do battlegrounds than instances personally |
| 18:29.42 | Nobgul-bnc | I think. It is 250 for 250. I may be wrong though |
| 18:29.45 | ben_alman | hmmn |
| 18:29.47 | ben_alman | let me google |
| 18:30.05 | ben_alman | i had no idea you could convert |
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| 18:30.11 | Nobgul-bnc | In org you can . |
| 18:30.12 | Dewin | also |
| 18:30.36 | Dewin | While you might get faster honor on your hunter |
| 18:30.38 | Nobgul-bnc | umm. It may be just valor im looking |
| 18:30.40 | Dewin | battlegrounds give XP now. |
| 18:30.56 | ben_alman | yeah i noticed that. i actually don't want the XP because then i'll level past my wife |
| 18:31.04 | ben_alman | we're running pallies together |
| 18:31.07 | ben_alman | it's so adorbs |
| 18:31.16 | ben_alman | but this time, i'm the healer |
| 18:31.22 | ben_alman | :D |
| 18:31.26 | Ackis | someone needs to write a wowprogress site but lets you track characters that transfer and link them all up |
| 18:31.41 | Dewin | wowprogress does, but it's really fail at doing it ;-p |
| 18:31.41 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: there used to be one that did |
| 18:31.46 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 18:32.34 | Ackis | http://www.wowprogress.com/search?q=ackis the priests are all me :( |
| 18:32.40 | Dewin | I looked at the 'possibly transferred characters' list and it'll be like Soandso on X server (DK) transferred to Earthen Ring (Rogue) |
| 18:32.58 | ben_alman | wow, there are 5 manthunders http://www.wowprogress.com/search?q=manthunder |
| 18:34.01 | mckenziemc | yeah Ackis, there was one that compared achivements to detect that but i forgot what it was called :( |
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| 18:35.58 | JunkHead | Morning. |
| 18:36.22 | Ackis | you should look at page 3 of this toon! http://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/illidan/Ackis |
| 18:36.58 | Adys | Cairenn: ping |
| 18:37.06 | Lunessa | ben_alman: You can also turn off XP gain by visiting an NPC and paying a fee. |
| 18:37.09 | Cairenn | Adys: pong |
| 18:37.24 | ben_alman | Lunessa, is it something that's easily toggleable? or is it lots of fees |
| 18:37.29 | ben_alman | i had no idea |
| 18:37.39 | JunkHead | 10g i think |
| 18:37.50 | ben_alman | ok, 10g to toggle |
| 18:37.50 | Lunessa | ben_alman: It's a newish feature (late WotLK) and it's a fee each way, but I think it's small. |
| 18:38.02 | ben_alman | well i don't have like 20k gold :P |
| 18:38.06 | ben_alman | but i will, eventually |
| 18:38.15 | JunkHead | Also, anyone know an alternative to oGlow? |
| 18:38.20 | JunkHead | I miss it.:( |
| 18:38.22 | Lunessa | And when you toggle it off, it's off for everything |
| 18:38.31 | Lunessa | oGlow still works. |
| 18:38.37 | JunkHead | It didn't work for me. |
| 18:38.38 | Dewin | you also will end up only in BGs with people who have the same XP setting |
| 18:38.43 | mckenziemc | you do get justice points in wotlk regs but it's only 12, and only the first 7 of the week |
| 18:39.04 | ben_alman | anyone used Cork and maybe know of an alternative to it? Basically an addon that reminds you when you're missing buffs/auras/etc and gives you a single button to re-apply them? |
| 18:39.28 | ben_alman | cork seems fglaky to me |
| 18:39.31 | ben_alman | flaky too |
| 18:39.34 | Lunessa | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7142-oGlow.html - works like a sexual tyrannosaurus! |
| 18:39.52 | ben_alman | ooh, oGlow looks useful |
| 18:40.58 | Lunessa | And Cork - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10629-Cork.html - still works. |
| 18:40.59 | ben_alman | so.. an alternative to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10629-Cork.html |
| 18:41.09 | ben_alman | cork has been really flaky for me |
| 18:41.30 | Lunessa | "Be warned, Cork will only cast out of combat. If you want to apply buffs in combat, you'll have to do it manually." |
| 18:41.31 | ben_alman | sometimes it works perfectly, other times, not at all |
| 18:41.38 | ben_alman | no, i understand |
| 18:41.41 | ben_alman | i'm talking OOC |
| 18:41.44 | Dewin | I still want an addon that will stop me from automatically clicking yes to a readycheck when I'm lacking buffs. |
| 18:41.56 | Dewin | (and will show what buffs I'm missing) |
| 18:42.10 | ben_alman | Dewin, cork shows the buffs you're missing |
| 18:42.15 | ben_alman | it's actually pretty neat |
| 18:42.28 | Dewin | ben_alman: Yes, but I've kind of trained myself to click "yes" to a readycheck without thinking |
| 18:42.32 | Lunessa | Dewin: You has a a pavlovian problem |
| 18:42.36 | ben_alman | heh |
| 18:43.03 | Mr_Rabies | yeahhhhh |
| 18:43.08 | Dewin | I want something that makes me have to wait ~5 seconds before the yes option becomes enabled if I'm missing anything and shows the missing buffs in the readycheck window itself. |
| 18:43.14 | Mr_Rabies | Windows' UAC has the tendency to do that to you too |
| 18:43.18 | Dewin | Configurable to not care about food/flask in 5 mans, etc. |
| 18:43.36 | Mr_Rabies | especially if you do computer repair full-time for a few years |
| 18:43.37 | Lunessa | I'll wire up your chair with an electrical shock |
| 18:43.50 | Mr_Rabies | clicking "continue" is like immediate for me now |
| 18:43.54 | Mr_Rabies | i've gotta watch myself |
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| 18:49.20 | Momro | Hello everyone. I would like to create a menu for my addon in the interface/addon control panel of wow. Is that relativly easy using ace? I'm not especially good in Lua and stuff *g* |
| 18:49.38 | JunkHead | holy crap. I swear oglow didn't work last time I tried it. |
| 18:49.41 | JunkHead | ... |
| 18:49.48 | JunkHead | Oh well. thank you.:) |
| 18:50.22 | Ackis | Momro: it is very easy |
| 18:50.32 | Momro | Great! :-) |
| 18:50.40 | Lunessa | Momro: No real need to use Ace3 just for that. Wowpedia has instructions. |
| 18:50.54 | Momro | mkay, guess wowpedia is down together with curse |
| 18:51.01 | Lunessa | yes |
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| 18:51.15 | Ackis | Momro: you could also look at existing addons that do it |
| 18:51.26 | Ackis | Ackis Recipe List/Collectinator have fairly complex menu systems |
| 18:51.35 | Momro | Yeah, that option always remains but ... it's hard to find easy and commented addons |
| 18:51.52 | Momro | I'd like to see an easy menu system first ;-) |
| 18:52.46 | Lunessa | Most addon devs are terrible about commenting (I try, but I have decades of bad habits) |
| 18:53.11 | Ackis | the docs are on wowace which is down, but if you have ARL installed just look in the Config.lua file for "how to create" menus which would get you started at least (assuming you have ARL installed) |
| 18:53.14 | Kraps_w | Ackis Recipe List was make by a terrible guy |
| 18:53.15 | Momro | hehe, I like to add super many comments so everyone could understand it |
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| 18:53.38 | Momro | Ah, ok. I'm going to download it asap :-) |
| 18:53.52 | mckenziemc | i comment my code too much! D: |
| 18:54.07 | Lunessa | Comments get added to my code so I can remember why the fuck I did something when I look at the code years later. |
| 18:54.09 | Ackis | I tended to comment my code quite well until Torhal|work mucked it all up!! :P |
| 18:54.23 | Ackis | foo = foo + 1 -- Add 1 to foo |
| 18:54.27 | durcyn | i don't believe any of my addons have a single comment, and I like it that way. |
| 18:54.35 | Torhal|work | Obvious comment is obvious: "iterate through the recipes and set their names" |
| 18:54.53 | Torhal|work | I comment when the reasoning behind the code is not obvious. |
| 18:55.00 | Lunessa | Once at back in the day, I was editing a project and bitching and cursing - commenting to my office mate "What idiot wrote this shit?" - and then I saw I was the original author of that project. So, yeah. |
| 18:55.09 | Ackis | if you commented more I would have collectinaor rewritten! HAH |
| 18:55.19 | Torhal|work | Heh, |
| 18:55.37 | Ackis | counter trolls well. |
| 18:55.48 | Torhal|work | I wasn't trolling: I was stating truth. |
| 18:55.49 | mckenziemc | fries trolls well |
| 18:56.04 | ben_alman | Lunessa, haha |
| 18:56.23 | ben_alman | i have some open source projects that i look back at now and want... to.... rewrite..... |
| 18:57.07 | ben_alman | the code is just so... well, not ideal |
| 18:57.35 | Lunessa | I feel that way about a lot of old projects. |
| 18:57.44 | ben_alman | yeah |
| 18:58.01 | mckenziemc | if you rewrite it now you may look back on it again in the future and want to rewrite it again D: |
| 18:58.12 | ben_alman | heh |
| 18:58.21 | ben_alman | but that won't change my feeling better in the short term |
| 18:58.35 | ben_alman | of course, with as many unreleased project as i currently have, it'll be a while before i rewrite anything |
| 18:59.33 | Lunessa | kd3: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721372142#1 |
| 18:59.48 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://killorn.tumblr.com/post/6811668508/i-fear-nothing |
| 19:00.04 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 19:02.05 | Momro | Do you have any conspirating theory why curse.com has been down for a while? |
| 19:02.19 | Lunessa | *sigh* |
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| 19:02.25 | Nobgul-bnc | yea hardware failure |
| 19:02.28 | durcyn | china invaded alabama and knocked them offline |
| 19:02.30 | Momro | ;-) |
| 19:03.12 | Momro | extremly long down time for a hardware failure |
| 19:03.53 | Lunessa | When the hardware failures are multiple SANs ... then you get long downtimes. |
| 19:04.51 | durcyn | or, more importantly, you learn the consequences of your architecture decisions. |
| 19:05.11 | Lunessa | that too |
| 19:05.45 | Arrowmaster | this is why you use 'the cloud' no hardware failures to worry about! |
| 19:06.16 | Lunessa | wracks Arrowmaster with force lightning and cackles. |
| 19:08.46 | Arrowmaster | haha i just started up Nier and the first thing before any menu or intro is the female character cursing out another character like a sailor |
| 19:09.33 | Momro | Would anyone care to tell me what SAN is? ;-) |
| 19:09.41 | Arrowmaster | storage area network |
| 19:09.50 | Momro | hm |
| 19:09.53 | bluspacecow | no it was their NAS |
| 19:10.06 | Arrowmaster | if you know what a NAS is, its a bigger version of a NAS |
| 19:10.21 | Momro | Ah, ok |
| 19:11.13 | ben_alman | <3 my NAS |
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| 19:11.25 | ben_alman | is SAN like "enterprise NAS" ? |
| 19:11.28 | ben_alman | heh |
| 19:11.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 19:11.42 | nicoli_s | Momro:its an extremely long time since we have to integrity check the entire disk |
| 19:11.52 | nicoli_s | which is many TeraBytes large |
| 19:13.51 | Momro | eerrrrrrr, ok |
| 19:14.11 | Momro | When you say "we", do you mean you are employee of curse? ;-) |
| 19:14.17 | nicoli_s | yes i do |
| 19:14.26 | Lunessa | there are several curse employees in here. |
| 19:14.33 | Ackis | lies |
| 19:14.34 | Momro | irgh! |
| 19:14.36 | nicoli_s | i have my hands in more curse projects than anyone else id say |
| 19:14.40 | Ackis | don't believe nicoli_s he doesn't work for Crse |
| 19:14.48 | Ackis | he's a slave for them! huzzah |
| 19:14.54 | nicoli_s | a well paid slave :P |
| 19:14.59 | Momro | 8-) |
| 19:15.17 | Lunessa | Actually, they're just fattening him up to harvest his organs and feast on his flesh. |
| 19:15.25 | Ackis | mmmm organs |
| 19:15.39 | nicoli_s | hey, as long as im enjoying myself on the way |
| 19:15.52 | Lunessa | Ackis, don't get too comfy, you're next. EvilShae has already signed you over. :P |
| 19:15.59 | nicoli_s | oh and free game access, you can eat me alive as long as i keep getting those |
| 19:16.00 | Ackis | damnit |
| 19:16.01 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:16.07 | Ackis | eats nicoli_s |
| 19:16.10 | Ackis | om nom nom nom |
| 19:16.15 | Ackis | tastes like bacon |
| 19:16.18 | nicoli_s | yeah, we are putting Ackis on the menu at the curse party |
| 19:16.22 | Momro | mmo-champ says that 55% of data verification is complete ... since some hours. I always wonder why people are so precise when it comes to estimation ;-) |
| 19:16.37 | nicoli_s | Momro:i think thats just straight from ChkDsk |
| 19:17.16 | Momro | I can hardly believe in all honesty that ChkDsk froze at 55 three hours ago *g* |
| 19:17.24 | Momro | 55% |
| 19:17.31 | nicoli_s | it hasnt, but the person who updates that is on his way to our data center |
| 19:17.37 | nicoli_s | im sure hell update it once hes there |
| 19:18.14 | Momro | hihi, ok ;-) |
| 19:18.47 | Ackis | shit if I'm on the menu at the curse party, I could feed a fuckin army |
| 19:19.22 | Lunessa | Better baste you in butter and booze |
| 19:19.31 | Mihau | We just updated the maintenance message. |
| 19:19.53 | Momro | Oh, you did. Because of my request? ;-p |
| 19:20.23 | Lunessa | *sigh* wowstead *sigh* |
| 19:20.25 | Ackis | woah woah woah who's Mihau? |
| 19:20.33 | Mihau | A Mihau. |
| 19:20.34 | Mihau | :P |
| 19:20.51 | Ackis | pfft |
| 19:20.52 | Mihau | <-- Trela, also known as an Alexia or Azxiana. |
| 19:21.05 | Ackis | the php person? |
| 19:21.07 | nicoli_s | welcome alex |
| 19:21.14 | Ackis | thinks there's too many alexes at curse |
| 19:21.17 | nicoli_s | we almost have the whole side of the cube farm on irc now |
| 19:21.32 | Kraps_w | oh yeah? |
| 19:21.39 | Mihau | Yes. |
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| 19:22.15 | nicoli_s | there we go |
| 19:22.17 | Mihau | Ackis: There is only one. |
| 19:22.19 | Kraps_w | YOU LOSERS I CANT GO ON MMOCHAMP WHY ARE YOU FAILING SO HARD |
| 19:22.22 | nicoli_s | now only chris is mssing and he doesnt count |
| 19:22.22 | Ackis | hi Chad! |
| 19:22.26 | Momro | o.O |
| 19:22.27 | Lunessa | Wait, did I meet you at the Curse party at BC 2010? |
| 19:22.30 | Xtek | Hi Ackis <3 |
| 19:22.32 | Kraps_w | :p |
| 19:22.44 | Xtek | Lunessa, you probably met most of us. :) |
| 19:23.24 | Lunessa | Yeah, but the name Alex is ringing a bell. I think we talked for a while about something. But I was drunk. And focused on a certain red-head. |
| 19:23.30 | Ackis | Mihau: I thought there was one in SF too |
| 19:23.46 | Mihau | Ackis: French version of the name. Doesn't count! |
| 19:23.52 | Ackis | bleh |
| 19:24.05 | Mihau | Lunessa: Possibly. I was there. |
| 19:24.13 | Kraps_w | also i have contacted a lawyer |
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| 19:24.28 | Ackis | I'm going to the Curse party this year! |
| 19:24.37 | nicoli_s | you better |
| 19:24.37 | Xtek | lol Kraps_w |
| 19:24.38 | Lunessa | Kraps_w: calling your uncle doesn't count. |
| 19:24.40 | Ackis | and Canadians greet people with open mouth kisses! right Torhal|work? |
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| 19:24.52 | Kraps_w | dammit Lunessa |
| 19:25.12 | Torhal|work | Ackis: I wouldn't know, but I'm bringing a shiv to Blizzcon just in case you try. |
| 19:25.39 | Xtek | this year's party will be fun |
| 19:25.45 | jnwhiteh | I need to come |
| 19:25.49 | jnwhiteh | but i dont think I have enough money |
| 19:25.55 | jnwhiteh | I should beg for donations =/ |
| 19:26.11 | Kraps_w | in fact, i'm doing this right now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqRPOEa3P44 |
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| 19:28.46 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Don't beg, I can't stand to see a grown man groveling. |
| 19:28.51 | Mihau | Lunessa: Ah... I could show you pictures of my hand to see if you recognize me. :P |
| 19:30.17 | Torhal|work | ... |
| 19:30.55 | Lunessa | I suppose? I think we were talking about the wowstead coupons and stuff at the party. (If you're the person I am thinking of, otherwise if you're the cute female blonde that Kaelten introduced me to ... ) |
| 19:31.41 | Ackis | Lunessa: that's probably Sunshine` |
| 19:32.01 | Lunessa | Yeah. I'm pretty sure Alex is the guy I talked to - at length - about wowstead |
| 19:32.16 | Lunessa | while we were both /very/ loaded |
| 19:32.40 | Mihau | Lunessa: XD I don't drink like that. |
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| 19:32.43 | Sunshine` | i heard my name! |
| 19:33.00 | Mihau | Sunshine`: People are complimenting you. |
| 19:33.01 | Lunessa | Maybe it was just me being loaded. |
| 19:33.04 | Sunshine` | oh, ok |
| 19:33.23 | Ackis | Sunshine`: read the line above where I pinged you |
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| 19:33.52 | Sunshine` | i see! |
| 19:33.59 | Torhal|work | Sunshine`: It's a trap! |
| 19:34.08 | Torhal|work | Sunshine`: Now he's going to rage at you in public! |
| 19:34.12 | Kraps_w | pics etc |
| 19:34.26 | Sunshine` | and i have a picture of Mihau and me from that curse party somewhere |
| 19:34.35 | Sunshine` | but i dont know where |
| 19:34.51 | kd3|netbook | ugh. tests where we have to draw 64 chips of memory by hand are painful |
| 19:35.11 | zenzelezz | "Bohemia Interactive also announces Arma: Cold War Assault, a revival of Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis, which has been discontinued by Codemasters, that includes the game's Resistance expansion." \o/ |
| 19:35.14 | nicoli_s | sounds tedious |
| 19:35.24 | Ackis | Sunshine`: I bet its on your computer |
| 19:36.23 | Sunshine` | it's not! |
| 19:36.38 | Lunessa | Talking to me is always a trap! |
| 19:36.39 | Ackis | did you check? |
| 19:36.45 | kd3|netbook | the standard textbook exercise: you have chips with 26 pins (save 4 for +v/cs/...). you need 8M addresses of 16 bit words. what do you do? |
| 19:36.46 | kd3|netbook | sighs |
| 19:36.46 | Ackis | the entire computer?! |
| 19:37.12 | ben_alman | anyone try power auras? |
| 19:37.18 | Lunessa | kd3: You an EE student? |
| 19:37.20 | Kraps_w | accidentally? |
| 19:38.01 | Vilkku | anyone else had problems with the default raid frame being above everything else? for example when I open the guild window |
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| 19:38.48 | kd3|netbook | upper-level CS |
| 19:39.05 | kd3|netbook | but I've seen this before, took a similar course at my previous university but I couldn't get the dean to approve the transfer |
| 19:39.11 | kd3|netbook | sighs |
| 19:41.24 | nicoli_s | im so glad i dropped out of college |
| 19:42.38 | Kraps_w | I CANT GET USED TO THIS STUPID computer clock |
| 19:44.02 | kd3|netbook | I've strongly considered it, but I keep getting told "we're not hiring you without a degree" |
| 19:47.42 | Kraps_w | why isnt there a percent complete anymore in the maint messsage |
| 19:48.18 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing it's because they didn't find it funny when we pointed out they hadn't changed |
| 19:48.46 | Kraps_w | just make a new number |
| 19:49.03 | Kraps_w | "69.33333333, repeating of course" |
| 19:49.46 | zenzelezz | set a cookie on each reload; on the fourth time tell the user "due to your continued interruption, we have had to backtrack 10%" |
| 19:50.02 | Kraps_w | ha |
| 19:50.30 | olafski | if you're faction changing, do you have to log out that specific character or the entire account? |
| 19:51.25 | olafski | the error message on account management says "this character must be logged out of the game" :< but it's been like that for 30 minutes |
| 19:51.44 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing they mean the account then |
| 19:51.51 | zenzelezz | don't know, but I think it was like that for transfer at least |
| 19:51.56 | olafski | how boring.. I'll do it another time I guess |
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| 20:03.17 | kd3|netbook | heh, neat: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/06/infants-understand-the-statistics-of-broken-toys.ars |
| 20:04.44 | Mikk | hey airtonix! |
| 20:05.09 | Mikk | i found proof! http://mikk.cjb.net/temp/torhal-proof.jpg |
| 20:07.26 | Kraps_w | "Until recently, reports have been speculating that the rights to sell the e-books would be worth as much as $160 million. By retaining the rights and selling them through her own platform, Rowling stands to make much more." |
| 20:08.47 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:08.53 | olafski | zenzelezz: seems only the character had to log off =) |
| 20:09.57 | Torhal|work | Mikk: ROFL |
| 20:10.22 | Ackis | lulz |
| 20:10.28 | Ackis | u so funny Torhal|work |
| 20:11.01 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/9SZQf.gif |
| 20:12.11 | zenzelezz | olafski: neat :) |
| 20:13.35 | Nobgul-bnc | oh my Ackis |
| 20:34.17 | Kraps_w | "Justin Bieber Knocked To The Ground At NYC Event" |
| 20:35.17 | AcidWeb | Hmm so Curse failover stuff failed or that failure got so catastrophic size that failover systems not helped? |
| 20:35.48 | Kraps_w | AcidWeb: the former |
| 20:35.50 | nicoli_s | the redudandt controller that was guaranteed not to fail, failed |
| 20:36.17 | AcidWeb | Ouch |
| 20:36.39 | Kraps_w | "That awkward moment when Justin Bieber thinks he's going to Macy's to promote his perfume, but ends up being attacked by an old guy." |
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| 20:38.46 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/bobcats_wednesday |
| 20:49.39 | Gnarfoz | nicoli_s: I doubt anyone would guarantee that, hehe |
| 20:49.42 | Gnarfoz | that's just the intention ^^ |
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| 20:55.04 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 20:55.06 | Fisker | i like you |
| 20:55.11 | Fisker | anyway goodbye |
| 20:55.40 | Gnarfoz | diaf |
| 20:59.46 | zenzelezz | "Yeah. My summary of that story would be, "Hey, no-one's conforming to the specification. Maybe we could get them to conform to the specification by specifying that people can make any errors they want. Then finally all our documents will be error-free and standards-compliant."" |
| 21:02.54 | sylvanaar_work | any of you tried the wow addon studio thingy? the new version? |
| 21:04.44 | Torhal|work | Urk |
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| 21:19.49 | Adys | burn notice, futurama and suits today |
| 21:19.50 | Adys | \o/ |
| 21:20.25 | nicoli_s | and Louie |
| 21:20.55 | Adys | whatsat? |
| 21:21.06 | nicoli_s | a show on FX, freaking hilarious |
| 21:21.13 | nicoli_s | by the comedian Louis CL |
| 21:21.15 | nicoli_s | CK* |
| 21:21.20 | Adys | oh, a seinfeld knockoff |
| 21:21.34 | Adys | hm |
| 21:21.39 | Adys | ill keep it in mind |
| 21:21.45 | Adys | might check it out when im back from hols |
| 21:22.01 | nicoli_s | oh god no |
| 21:22.08 | nicoli_s | its much much better than seinfeld |
| 21:22.18 | nicoli_s | its actually, you know, funny |
| 21:22.18 | Adys | now hold your norses here |
| 21:22.58 | Adys | seinfeld is brilliant |
| 21:23.04 | nicoli_s | if yer 50 |
| 21:23.07 | Adys | and if you dont think so, you sound like a c# dev |
| 21:23.16 | nicoli_s | well what a coincidence |
| 21:23.22 | nicoli_s | i have 7 C# projects open atm |
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| 21:24.13 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 21:24.16 | Fisker | i am attracted to you |
| 21:24.27 | nicoli_s | happens to alot of people, its ok |
| 21:24.33 | Adys | positive reviews and all.. hmm |
| 21:24.37 | Fisker | i'm not sure that it does nicoli_s |
| 21:24.40 | nicoli_s | you can just shower me with money |
| 21:24.47 | Adys | ill definitely check it out, but youre gonna have to do better than say "seinfeld sucked" |
| 21:24.56 | dusf | i am trying to incorporate a 3 in 1 macro into one of my domino bars, but the macro is intended to be placed somewhere on stealth's bar 1, and it then clicks button 11 and 12 |
| 21:25.15 | nicoli_s | seinfeld just never did it for me, i dunno |
| 21:25.18 | nicoli_s | my parents love it |
| 21:25.22 | dusf | i have those buttons in use, so how can i find out the numbers of buttons on my domino bar 6, as is the click# all i need to change? |
| 21:25.27 | dusf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.01 | dusf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.05 | dusf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.49 | Adys | nicoli_s: seinfeld is a brilliant series to work to |
| 21:28.15 | Adys | its not taking enough to have to focus on but its funny enough to entertain |
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| 21:28.40 | Adys | i leave it running on monitor2 and work in non-shit languages like python :P |
| 21:30.15 | dusf | do i need to use /click MultiBarLeftButton instead of /click ActionButton maybe? |
| 21:34.01 | olafski | < nicoli_s> i have 7 C# projects open atm <-- ^5 :) |
| 21:34.35 | nicoli_s | actually make that 6 |
| 21:39.32 | olafski | that's fine too |
| 21:39.36 | olafski | don't go below 5 though |
| 21:39.40 | olafski | nn =) |
| 21:39.52 | kd3|netbook | the bus will blow up if you do |
| 21:40.08 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:42.23 | sylvanaar_work | i like c#, it's a nice langugage to program in |
| 21:42.48 | kd3|netbook | except for the whole MS is moving to html5/javascript thing |
| 21:43.00 | sylvanaar_work | they are full of it |
| 21:44.01 | sylvanaar_work | they will never be free of COM |
| 21:44.09 | Lunessa | dusf: Your macro is doomed to failure - you can't programatically change the contents of an action button in combat like that. |
| 21:44.16 | sylvanaar_work | and c# makes COM tolerable |
| 21:45.54 | foxlit | Lunessa: if he's out to sap people, he's presumably not in combat. |
| 21:46.11 | foxlit | scum nonetheless, though. |
| 21:46.16 | Lunessa | a point, true. |
| 21:46.57 | Lunessa | wonders how long it will be before PickupAction becomes protected. |
| 21:48.08 | cogwheel | i thought it was... |
| 21:49.15 | Lunessa | I'd have to go look |
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| 21:49.48 | mckenziemc | it is |
| 21:49.57 | Ackis | picks up Lunessa |
| 21:49.57 | Ackis | hey baby how you doin? |
| 21:50.05 | Ackis | ~pts |
| 21:50.05 | purl | well, pts is Public Test Shard for Rift. For more information on how to get started see this post: http://bit.ly/kgztys |
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| 21:51.49 | sylvanaar_seamon | chatzilla is kinda nice |
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| 22:12.00 | Lunessa | Now that I'm not on the call from hell, PickupAction is listed as "nocombat" - I assume that means only 'protected' as in can't be called during combat. :) |
| 22:13.57 | kd3|netbook | bah. looks like it's just going to happen |
| 22:14.12 | kd3|netbook | tuned everything he could think of and still only gets 3fps in minecraft here |
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| 22:16.27 | Kraps | sylvanaar: i use it |
| 22:16.56 | sylvanaar | i was just trying it out - it is nice |
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| 22:19.07 | Kraps | SO SEX http://kotaku.com/5814824/la-noire-headed-to-the-computer |
| 22:21.28 | foxlit | Kraps: Whenever that game is mentioned, the screenshots are the most awkward display of graphics ever |
| 22:22.13 | foxlit | I end up knowing nothing about the game other than it has horrible facial animation |
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| 22:32.26 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wireless-Mobile-Mouse-3500/dp/B0035ERKYW/ref=dp_ob_title_ce yes no maybe |
| 22:33.33 | foxlit | http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Wireless-Laser-Mouse-8000/dp/B000I4UQFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1308868406&sr=1-1 |
| 22:34.29 | Kraps | top view looks weird |
| 22:35.20 | Kraps | meh at recharge |
| 22:36.08 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using a logitech performance mx |
| 22:36.09 | Mr_Rabies | it owns |
| 22:36.38 | Mr_Rabies | http://amzn.com/B002HWRJBM |
| 22:38.14 | dusf | Lunessa: sap is used out of combat, in stealth |
| 22:39.00 | dusf | Lunessa: the source is this post: http://lastrogue.com/%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82s-sap-macro/ |
| 22:39.03 | Lunessa | I don't much care. I already mentioned that. And the script is still docuhey and likely to lead to more functions getting locked down. |
| 22:39.31 | dusf | you mentioned my name and said it's not going to work in combat, i was explain to use sap is not used in combat |
| 22:40.38 | Lunessa | read the rest of what I said too. |
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| 22:41.37 | dusf | Lunessa: the script macro does work, i just need it to work on a different bar is all |
| 22:42.10 | Lunessa | *shrug* I'm not going to help. For reasons I've just made clear. |
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| 22:51.54 | Kraps | why are there no desktop-oriented wireless mice |
| 22:53.10 | TC-Laptop | yes there are |
| 22:53.53 | Kraps | link? |
| 22:54.11 | Lunessa | www.logitech.com |
| 22:54.35 | Kraps | hoho |
| 22:55.04 | jnwhiteh | implemented entity loading from chunk data in our minecraft server |
| 22:55.06 | jnwhiteh | huzzah! |
| 22:55.31 | Lunessa | http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/devices/6811 |
| 22:56.00 | Lunessa | See? Full-size, meant for use with a desktop, wireless mouse. |
| 22:56.07 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: even MS makes some |
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| 22:57.45 | Kraps | i dont really care for side buttons but maybe |
| 22:57.52 | TC-Laptop | you dont have to use them |
| 22:58.03 | TC-Laptop | but side button is almost as awesome as side boob |
| 22:58.08 | TC-Laptop | and far more useful |
| 22:58.27 | Kraps | thanks for the lol |
| 22:58.46 | Ackis | I want you inside me |
| 22:59.10 | Lunessa | I want a trackball with more buttons. |
| 22:59.58 | Lunessa | side boob is not awesome. |
| 23:00.29 | Kraps | what Lunessa |
| 23:00.41 | Kraps | what language do you speak |
| 23:00.49 | Lunessa | Side boob is for lame pervos who can't get to see full on bobs |
| 23:00.52 | Lunessa | boobs |
| 23:01.17 | Lunessa | I am a non-lame pervert, and I get to see full on boobs. |
| 23:01.27 | Lunessa | So - side boob = lame |
| 23:02.08 | Kraps | side boob is more likely to happen unintentionally at places where they shouldnt, which makes them funnier |
| 23:02.18 | Lunessa | funnier, but not awesome |
| 23:03.05 | TC-Laptop | side boob has anticipation, which is more awesome. and most times looks better |
| 23:04.22 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: you getting homefront? |
| 23:04.22 | Lunessa | side boob comes with the implication that you're never (or rarely) going to see it as full on boob. Ergo, only good for a laugh or being skeevy. |
| 23:04.29 | Kraps | anticipation is the reason bikinis etc is better than nudity, most of the time |
| 23:04.55 | TMc51 | Kraps: Nah, bikinis are only better half the time, at best. |
| 23:06.04 | Kraps | TC-Laptop: i bought it the day it released, to my mild regret |
| 23:07.44 | Kraps | wonders if 1 day shipping is worth it |
| 23:08.06 | TC-Laptop | Lunessa: it depends on the situation. If it was someone you know you were going home with, it would be better to see them all day with side boob than full boob. it would make the later much much better. |
| 23:08.29 | Lunessa | TC-Laptop: in that rare instance, I might concur. |
| 23:09.43 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: is it not worth buying then? |
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| 23:11.59 | Kraps | thats tough to answer, its probably worth $25 though |
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| 23:29.19 | Kraps | wat http://kotaku.com/5814871/source-new-rainbow-6-might-be-the-most-innovative-shooter-in-years |
| 23:29.59 | Kraps | still no planning map so whatever |
| 23:32.48 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/M1vYi.jpg |
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