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| 00:08.41 | Gnarfoz | Adys: bitcoins for someone |
| 00:09.43 | Adys | Gnarfoz: i thought it was something like that yeah |
| 00:09.51 | Adys | what makes you think its bitcoin spam? |
| 00:10.09 | Gnarfoz | SHA_256 |
| 00:10.12 | Gnarfoz | filename |
| 00:10.27 | Adys | what about it? |
| 00:10.31 | Gnarfoz | totalHashes, progressUpdating |
| 00:10.52 | Adys | oh, of course |
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| 00:20.56 | dusf | is there a way to stopattack only when a modifier is pressed, like a regular cast? |
| 00:21.09 | dusf | for instance something like /console [mod:alt] stopattack? |
| 00:26.26 | Ackis | anyone wnat to know how Super 8 ended? |
| 00:29.01 | Dagmar | It was Pedobear all along. |
| 00:29.38 | Ackis | it ended saying this film is protected by US and international copyright law! |
| 00:34.49 | Jamash | I got injured by a turtle |
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| 00:35.13 | Jamash | dusf: /stopattack [mod:alt] |
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| 00:44.43 | Fisker | btw Parnic|E3 |
| 00:45.13 | Fisker | the inception reference in Duke's Titty City was fun :O |
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| 00:53.22 | Parnic | fisker does it make you sad that razor beat skidrow to duke? |
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| 00:56.24 | Arrowmaster | why cant it be july yet, there is nothing good on tv except GoT till july |
| 01:03.09 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: see anything cool this week? |
| 01:03.26 | Parnic | the old republic |
| 01:04.20 | Arrowmaster | have they gone into closed beta yet for that? i remember when the signup thing went up but havent heard anything at all after that |
| 01:04.30 | Parnic | not that i'm aware of |
| 01:04.37 | Parnic | but it was playable at e3 if you managed to get through the line |
| 01:05.19 | Arrowmaster | i remember the site wouldnt let me signup for the beta because i wasnt using windows so i yell at my friend at bioware |
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| 01:23.02 | pompy | "The User Interface panels have been resized so there is no more need for scroll bars" hmm |
| 01:30.23 | Jamash | yay |
| 01:30.53 | airtonix | pompy: i would sue for negligence |
| 01:33.13 | airtonix | make them bankrupt |
| 01:33.13 | pompy | "Addons will no longer be able to intelligently swap items by working with the built-in Equipment Manager." |
| 01:35.50 | airtonix | lol |
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| 01:39.43 | airtonix | but you have interface panels the size of dolly parton, who cares if you view the game world through a pinhole? at least you can't cheat by automatically swapping those hats around in the city |
| 01:40.37 | dusf | Jamash: ty |
| 01:41.59 | airtonix | "Changing the colour of the actionbar to 'hello kitty pink' will be seen as an attempt to exploit vunerabilities in the game to gain an unfair advantage over other players and will be responded in kind with a permanent battlenet account wide ban" |
| 01:44.43 | mckenziemc | you speak from experience |
| 01:44.45 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 01:45.46 | airtonix | repalce battlenet with ncwest |
| 01:46.45 | airtonix | and 'exploit vunerablities' with 'expose incompetence' |
| 01:48.52 | airtonix | mckenziemc: you know these people were so awesome that when faced with monumentual ingame gold spam and given the choice of either using something like babdboy anti-spam or removing chat from players until level 10... |
| 01:50.05 | airtonix | they choose to escalate the ingame gold spam to macrana-train levels by forcing the gold spamming bots to migrate all their family members into the new player zones. |
| 01:50.16 | mckenziemc | what |
| 01:50.23 | airtonix | incoming picture |
| 01:50.29 | airtonix | it's hilarious |
| 01:52.43 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwDSlQMFd8U |
| 01:52.46 | airtonix | non stop gold spam |
| 01:53.07 | mckenziemc | youtube =/= picture |
| 01:53.11 | airtonix | http://localhostr.com/files/96d28f/Gotbots.jpg |
| 01:53.17 | airtonix | train ^ |
| 01:56.16 | airtonix | http://www.onlinemassivelymultiplayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AionOnlineProtest1.jpg |
| 01:56.34 | airtonix | they don't even pretend to ban bots in the asian versions |
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| 02:16.01 | kd3 | ack, a new ptr build. when'd this happen? |
| 02:18.02 | mckenziemc | tomorrow |
| 02:26.18 | kd3 | emails away |
| 02:31.00 | mckenziemc | will they arrive yesterday? |
| 02:31.04 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 02:31.11 | kd3 | sure, for europeans |
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| 02:58.46 | cogwheel | anyone want some Taco Bell Fire Sauce? .... or .... Why the hell did he think i needed 16 packets for 1 taco & 1 quesadilla? |
| 03:00.45 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 03:02.23 | tekkub | because grabbing a handful is just easier |
| 03:02.39 | tekkub | you don't have to even know how many things are in the bag |
| 03:05.11 | kd3 | holy hell, nozdormu actually appearing in game in humanoid form |
| 03:05.16 | kd3 | >.< |
| 03:14.32 | Cairenn | It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark ... and we're wearing sunglasses. |
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| 03:22.25 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: http://youtu.be/mZe6KJQuUJI |
| 03:25.50 | Gnarfoz | actually, more like http://youtu.be/VxIwRDs1Yc8 but I'm an ignorant slob and didn't know it wasn't original |
| 03:29.38 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 04:20.01 | mckenziemc1 | "Copying 309,981 items (92.7 GB)" "1 day remaining" |
| 04:20.48 | Adys | 1 day remaining until you give up and buy a ssd |
| 04:21.13 | mckenziemc1 | why would i buy an SSD for a temporary backup drive :p |
| 04:21.34 | Adys | I would |
| 04:21.38 | Adys | but I have too much money :( |
| 04:22.17 | kd3 | any curse staff alive atm? |
| 04:22.29 | mckenziemc1 | i would hope |
| 04:27.47 | Adys | I need someone who uses xp and/or vista |
| 04:27.58 | Adys | preferably xp |
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| 04:29.56 | Iriel | I have vista on my PC |
| 04:30.35 | Torhal | kd3: Hmm? |
| 04:31.15 | kd3 | getting errors on wowpedia; http://dpaste.com/552983/ |
| 04:31.35 | Torhal | Urk |
| 04:32.36 | kd3 | though it looks like it may be my end... firefox isn't working but I just got it to load in chrome |
| 04:32.37 | kd3 | hrm |
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| 04:33.47 | Torhal | kd3: Predis is a server-side thinger. |
| 04:34.09 | Torhal | Unfortunately, all I have is Google Phone from gmail so Kaelten couldn't really hear me on this shitte hotel Internet |
| 04:34.13 | Torhal | shitty* |
| 04:34.15 | Adys | Iriel: got access to it? |
| 04:34.28 | kd3 | I can get it to do it consistently in fx, but not in chrome |
| 04:34.32 | Iriel | Adys: it's 2 feet to my left |
| 04:34.37 | Adys | that seems a bit far |
| 04:34.44 | Adys | you willing to make some effort? |
| 04:34.58 | Adys | i need you to tell me the output of run->cmd's "pause" |
| 04:35.07 | Iriel | Adys: perhaps, if it's for a worthy cause |
| 04:35.23 | Torhal | kd3: http://redis.io/ <-- Predis is the PHP interface/ |
| 04:35.26 | Iriel | Press any key to continue . . . |
| 04:35.30 | Iriel | (There's a space fter the last dot) |
| 04:35.33 | Adys | thanks! |
| 04:35.35 | Iriel | the cursor blinks after the space |
| 04:35.39 | Torhal | I don't see how that could be strictly on your end... |
| 04:35.49 | kd3 | maybe a cookie thing? |
| 04:35.55 | Adys | Torhal: my money's on kd3 HACKING you |
| 04:35.56 | kd3 | does some cache clearing |
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| 04:36.03 | Torhal | Adys: RAWR! |
| 04:36.24 | Iriel | Adys: do you need XP also? |
| 04:36.29 | Adys | Iriel: Yeah, if poss |
| 04:36.36 | Iriel | Let me boot that one |
| 04:36.42 | Adys | you rock |
| 04:37.28 | Iriel | Adys: same thing there? |
| 04:37.32 | Adys | yup |
| 04:37.36 | Adys | just need the output |
| 04:37.38 | Iriel | Ok, it'll be a couple of mins |
| 04:37.47 | Torhal | kd3: Only if your session cookie is fucked, from what that trace is saying |
| 04:37.53 | Iriel | It's an older machine and doesn't get booted much |
| 04:38.21 | Torhal | Though why it wouldn't elegently tell you it's unhappy instead of spewing error messages is beyond me. |
| 04:38.22 | kd3 | cookies, says my bookmarklet: http://dpaste.com/552986/ |
| 04:38.34 | Torhal | Ick. |
| 04:39.36 | Iriel | Adys: the same |
| 04:39.40 | Adys | thanks |
| 04:39.48 | Iriel | no problem |
| 04:39.55 | Iriel | anything else before I shut it back down? |
| 04:40.16 | Adys | nothing i can think of, just kick it hard in the balls |
| 04:40.50 | Iriel | That used to be my uber gaming machine, it deserves SOME respect |
| 04:44.58 | Adys | developer forums are fun |
| 04:45.06 | Adys | hundreds of small test apps |
| 04:45.08 | tekkub | lies |
| 04:45.16 | Adys | fun for wine that is |
| 04:45.22 | Adys | they pleasure my ocd nerve |
| 04:45.40 | Adys | nowhere near satisfy quite yet but still better than nothing |
| 04:50.56 | kd3 | huh, not sure if that's a good or a bad problem to have... (Can't contact the database server: Too many connections (10.0.0.53:5001)) |
| 04:57.24 | Dagmar | No worries. It's probably a bad thing. |
| 05:12.30 | Torhal | kd3: Ugh. If that's any relation to your session cookie, it may very well be a horrible thing - sessions not being properly terminated, so the connections to the DB are never ended. |
| 05:12.59 | kd3 | eesh |
| 05:13.15 | Torhal | Why does everything always blow up on weekends? |
| 05:13.41 | kd3 | murphy loves making trouble? |
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| 05:23.33 | Adys | Cairenn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ocelot.jpg |
| 05:23.36 | Adys | its staring at me |
| 05:23.49 | Adys | ive had that page open for over a week |
| 05:23.58 | Adys | i just cant bring myself to close it |
| 05:24.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:28.59 | Jamash | I got injured by a turtle today |
| 05:29.51 | mckenziemc1 | don't stick your fingers in its mouth |
| 05:29.56 | Jamash | I didn't |
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| 05:33.54 | cog|away | trip over it? |
| 05:35.32 | Jamash | it was in my granddad's driveway |
| 05:35.47 | Jamash | so I picked it up to take it to the river |
| 05:36.18 | Jamash | and I was trying to adjust my grip on it so I could take a look at its underside |
| 05:37.19 | Jamash | and it kicked my hand so hard that 1. my hand started bleeding and 2. it fell down some concrete stairs onto the beach and turtled its way into the river |
| 05:38.26 | Jamash | my sister says that I have received the mark of the were-turtle |
| 05:43.06 | cogwheel | that would make a good old person story |
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| 05:47.45 | Iriel | cogwheel: why would he be turning an old person over to look at its underside |
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| 05:49.29 | kd3 | whistles idly |
| 05:49.39 | kd3 | guess I'll stop poking the server for a while |
| 05:53.22 | cogwheel | can someone explain why people think "reduced by 200%" makes any sense? |
| 05:53.43 | cogwheel | "speed may be reduced by 200% if ....." |
| 05:54.55 | Iriel | cogwheel: Not particularly |
| 05:55.17 | Iriel | Unless you end up going backwards at the same speed you were going forwards? |
| 05:55.28 | cogwheel | but then it would be velocity :P |
| 05:55.41 | Iriel | True, but not everyone gets that right |
| 05:56.19 | cogwheel | i'm also not particularly fond of "n times less/fewer" |
| 05:58.09 | Shirik | PHP is such an awful language |
| 05:58.12 | Shirik | how does it even get interpreted |
| 05:58.27 | cogwheel | gnomes |
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| 06:06.28 | AcidWeb | "The individual Matchmaking Rating column has been removed from the Rated Battleground scoreboard and replaced with a team Matchmaking Rating." |
| 06:06.43 | AcidWeb | Anybody maybe seen that already on PTR? |
| 06:07.42 | karl_w_w | does any of the api change with this wargames change? |
| 06:07.47 | karl_w_w | or is it just ui |
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| 06:21.35 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.1.x ToC: 40100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday Mr. Seerah! || #RiftUIDev is now open |
| 06:22.45 | AcidWeb | karl_w_w: I guess thath only UI. Wargame API is already in place. |
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| 06:28.10 | karl_w_w | probably |
| 06:28.20 | Shirik | SWEET |
| 06:28.35 | Shirik | All of the debts on my credit card just disappeared |
| 06:28.44 | AcidWeb | "Probably" is word-key to entire WoW api ;d |
| 06:28.55 | karl_w_w | too true |
| 06:28.59 | Shirik | "Show all transactions since last statement" shows nothing and "Last statement" is listed as May 11 |
| 06:29.10 | Shirik | Unfortunately I think that's only because they're making the statement now :( |
| 06:29.17 | Shirik | But I should take a screenshot and then say they made it up |
| 06:29.35 | karl_w_w | credit cards are bad for you |
| 06:29.47 | Shirik | not if you pay them off immediately |
| 06:29.51 | Shirik | which I do |
| 06:29.54 | Shirik | I have a balance of like $40 |
| 06:30.28 | karl_w_w | if u always pay it off straight away, what's the point of having it? :P |
| 06:30.58 | Shirik | (1) build credit (2) get rewards |
| 06:31.15 | karl_w_w | (3) pay fees |
| 06:31.18 | Shirik | nope |
| 06:31.20 | Shirik | no fees on my card |
| 06:31.29 | Shirik | well no annual fees which I assume you mean |
| 06:31.43 | karl_w_w | fees of any kind :P |
| 06:31.44 | Shirik | there's obviously fees like over the limit, etc. |
| 06:31.49 | Shirik | but I don't hit those |
| 06:33.31 | AcidWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8i9m0JZvJY |
| 06:33.33 | AcidWeb | :O |
| 06:35.40 | Shirik | how does a goalie.../ |
| 06:36.26 | Shirik | oh goalies aren't blind |
| 06:36.33 | Monolit | AcidWeb: sick shit |
| 06:37.01 | AcidWeb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_football |
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| 06:40.58 | Dagmar | ...and some of them are ninjas anyway |
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| 06:58.37 | Wobin | karl_w_w: the point is also to have a credit rating |
| 06:58.47 | Wobin | If you don't have a credit card at all, you have zero credit rating |
| 06:58.51 | Wobin | and getting loans will be more difficult |
| 07:02.04 | Shirik | anyone know about stocks? |
| 07:02.12 | Shirik | nm I figured it out |
| 07:04.50 | cbreak | I am not a gambler. |
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| 07:11.24 | Shirik | stocks are not about gambling cbreak |
| 07:11.30 | Shirik | that is what is wrong with the stock market today |
| 07:11.55 | Wobin | you misphrase =P |
| 07:12.04 | Wobin | gambling is what's wrong with the stock market today |
| 07:12.14 | Wobin | thus, cbreak's statement is perfectly valid =P |
| 07:13.05 | Shirik | My auto/homeowner's insurance statement doesn't make any sense |
| 07:13.10 | cbreak | Wobin: here in switzerland, loans are given out based on your income, your property and some other demographic data, including but not limited to past credit history. |
| 07:13.33 | cbreak | the most important aspect is how much you earn and how much property you have |
| 07:13.35 | Shirik | I can either pay $886.60 now or 4 installments of $185.60 (either is for 6 months) |
| 07:13.41 | Shirik | why would I pay $886.60 |
| 07:13.57 | Wobin | cbreak: the whole point of a credit history is not how much you currently earn, but how -well- you can pay off loans |
| 07:14.20 | Wobin | and thus, is an integral part in the decision from a bank offering you a loan |
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| 07:14.43 | Wobin | You could earn hundreds of thousands of dollars at that moment |
| 07:14.49 | cbreak | I don't think being able to pay back micro loans from credit cards has any relation with paying back real loans |
| 07:14.59 | Wobin | but if you cannot pay off your loans because you buy too much, then a bank isn't going to offer you a loan |
| 07:15.07 | cbreak | (as we have seen with the housing bubble) |
| 07:15.18 | Shirik | cbreak: Except that's not how they think |
| 07:15.29 | Shirik | they see "he seems trustworthy" or "he doesn't seem trustworthy" |
| 07:15.34 | Shirik | at least in the US |
| 07:16.03 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: actually its the opposite of that |
| 07:16.04 | Shirik | so the fact that they see "OK" all the way across my credit report indicates "he seems to manage his money well" |
| 07:16.10 | cbreak | I think they define trustworthyness here as a complicated function of income, property, security and lots of demographics |
| 07:16.12 | Wobin | Two people, same job, one has a credit history, the other doesn't |
| 07:16.34 | Wobin | The bank is more likely to loan the money to the one with a credit history, if it shows he pays back his loans on time, than one without a credit history at all |
| 07:16.42 | Arrowmaster | if you instantly pay off your debits it doesnt actually help your credit history |
| 07:17.21 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: you'll have to clarify that statement |
| 07:17.30 | Arrowmaster | they want people that can and will reliably pay off part of their debit, not all of it at once |
| 07:17.47 | Arrowmaster | if you pay it off all at once they dont make any profit from you so they dont want you |
| 07:17.48 | Wobin | well, true |
| 07:18.06 | Wobin | But they will -still- prefer someone -with- a credit history, not one without one at all |
| 07:18.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:18.22 | Wobin | because it's evidence of behaviour |
| 07:18.23 | cbreak | weird people |
| 07:18.35 | Wobin | they're loaning you money |
| 07:18.46 | Wobin | the history is evidence in how you react to borrowed money |
| 07:18.51 | Arrowmaster | like having tons of credit cards you dont use actually hurts your credit score |
| 07:19.23 | cbreak | I think that tens of monetary unit has a different mental image to normal people than hundredthousands of monetary units |
| 07:19.35 | cbreak | the conclusions you can take are probably not that hard |
| 07:19.36 | Wobin | I'm pretty sure it affects how much you can borrow in total, but I'm not sure in what way |
| 07:20.05 | Wobin | cbreak: if you can't repay a credit card on time, what chance have you of repaying a home loan on time? |
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| 07:20.34 | cbreak | the amount you can borrow is influenced by your securities, like the pension fund you have or your total property |
| 07:20.57 | Wobin | eh |
| 07:21.05 | cbreak | Wobin: yeah. credit reports hurt your loan receiving ability in that case |
| 07:21.06 | Wobin | lets just say it differs in different countries and leave it at that =P |
| 07:21.20 | cbreak | they have that here too |
| 07:21.36 | cbreak | but they call it "debt register" or something |
| 07:21.43 | Arrowmaster | hell it differs just in the US alone |
| 07:21.49 | Arrowmaster | theres 3 credit agencies |
| 07:22.11 | cbreak | only? |
| 07:22.36 | Arrowmaster | well theres 3 big ones that i think everybody all uses |
| 07:22.53 | Arrowmaster | like when you go for a big loan they will check all 3 |
| 07:25.55 | Shirik | eh |
| 07:26.02 | Shirik | a lot of places only check one :) |
| 07:26.05 | Shirik | even for things like car loans |
| 07:26.28 | Shirik | btw |
| 07:26.32 | Shirik | (00:18:37) (Arrowmaster) like having tons of credit cards you dont use actually hurts your credit score |
| 07:26.34 | Shirik | that's a myth |
| 07:26.37 | Shirik | and totally not true |
| 07:26.40 | Arrowmaster | car dealerships do a credit check before letting you into a car |
| 07:26.58 | cbreak | they should do a driving history check |
| 07:27.14 | Shirik | there's two problems with that statement: (1) having a long history is important, and closing off cards you don't use will stop that card from counting towards your active credit history |
| 07:27.28 | Shirik | and (2) having a $0 balance on your credit report doesn't hurt your score |
| 07:27.42 | Wobin | cbreak: pft, why? They're only -selling- you the car =P |
| 07:27.49 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: i had somebody that works in the credit industry tell me that |
| 07:27.51 | Shirik | (2) is primarily true because the reports can't tell the difference between "never using" and "paying in full every month" |
| 07:27.52 | Wobin | if you're a terrible driver, it just means they can sell you another one! |
| 07:28.14 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: You can find documentation of the opposite almost everywhere, including the formulas for a FICO score |
| 07:28.29 | Shirik | about 30% of you score is simply "available credit to limit ratio" |
| 07:29.01 | cbreak | so the closer to the limit you are the better? |
| 07:29.08 | cbreak | sounds like a money making scheme... |
| 07:29.11 | cbreak | oh wait... it is... |
| 07:29.23 | tekkub | yea the credit limit thing is killer |
| 07:29.28 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmk1yyWpzH1qg15bpo1_500.jpg |
| 07:29.34 | Shirik | the opposite cbreak |
| 07:29.36 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 07:29.36 | tekkub | stay under 30% used and it does wonders for your score |
| 07:29.48 | Wobin | I <3 corgi |
| 07:29.59 | cbreak | has never had a credit in his life |
| 07:30.15 | Cairenn | :) |
| 07:30.18 | cbreak | and my only cards are either directly bound to a bank account or are prepaid |
| 07:30.21 | Shirik | The next 30% of the FICO score calculation is how much you owe. This is found by dividing your balances by your credit limits. This is done with each account and you also have a total utilization. |
| 07:30.22 | Shirik | The next 15% of the FICO score calculation is your credit history. This looks at the average age of all your accounts and the age of your oldest account. The longer the history the better. |
| 07:30.24 | Wobin | how old are you, cbreak? |
| 07:30.33 | Shirik | those are two things that would benefit from leaving open an old account that you never use |
| 07:30.46 | cbreak | in a few years 2^5 |
| 07:30.47 | Wobin | generally speaking |
| 07:31.06 | Arrowmaster | i opened an account at a local credit union years ago just to build a credit history |
| 07:31.14 | Wobin | you don't have any mortgage? |
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| 07:31.22 | cbreak | no |
| 07:31.30 | Wobin | own property? |
| 07:31.35 | cbreak | yes |
| 07:31.41 | Wobin | bought outright? |
| 07:31.47 | cbreak | inherited |
| 07:31.51 | Wobin | ah |
| 07:31.53 | Shirik | cheater |
| 07:32.00 | Wobin | =P |
| 07:32.02 | tekkub | yea dirty botter |
| 07:32.55 | Wobin | Most educated Americans have had some level of loan in their lifetime, simply due to college |
| 07:33.22 | Shirik | damn |
| 07:33.30 | Shirik | I went further into debt since last month :( |
| 07:33.40 | nevcairiel | arent we glad that education doesnt cost an arm and a leg in europe |
| 07:33.41 | Shirik | Last month's balance $44, this month's balance $44.31 |
| 07:33.48 | Arrowmaster | i have a college degree and have never had a loan |
| 07:33.55 | Wobin | Oz's idea is pretty effective |
| 07:34.20 | Wobin | it ends up being a loan you pay off, only if your salary is above a certain level |
| 07:34.36 | cbreak | I like how it's done here |
| 07:34.50 | Arrowmaster | US student loans are a bitch from what i hear |
| 07:35.02 | tekkub | student loans just never go away |
| 07:35.03 | cbreak | you pay some money every semester, and the rest is in your hands for studying and doing well on tests and thesises |
| 07:35.12 | Shirik | It's not really the loans that are the bitch |
| 07:35.13 | nevcairiel | here you can get a loan directly from the gov, and if you finish with a degree (and within a certain time frame, so no slacking), you only have to pay half |
| 07:35.22 | Shirik | it's the fact that the schools cost an arm and a leg in the first place |
| 07:35.25 | tekkub | if you do the paperwork every year you can get it in forebearance or defferement unless you make decent money |
| 07:35.31 | tekkub | in which case you can manage the payments |
| 07:36.01 | Wobin | nevcairiel: that's a nice perk |
| 07:36.01 | Shirik | rerolls paladin so he can get forebearance on loans |
| 07:36.05 | tekkub | and yea, schools cost hideous amounts of money here |
| 07:36.17 | Wobin | good encouragement to finish the degree |
| 07:36.18 | Shirik | I believe I was hitting $36k/yr |
| 07:36.46 | Arrowmaster | im lucky i got my associate for really cheap compared to most |
| 07:36.58 | Shirik | I'm just glad I didn't pay for my master's |
| 07:37.11 | Shirik | otherwise I'd have a ton of debt :P |
| 07:37.21 | tekkub | 10 years ago, after 3 years I was at 20k in debt and it was going to go to ~$12k/yr for the next 3 |
| 07:37.24 | Arrowmaster | well i didnt have to pay for half my credits |
| 07:37.26 | tekkub | I got the fuck out |
| 07:37.37 | tekkub | that was a "4 year" degree mind you |
| 07:38.13 | tekkub | I don't think anyone got out of that school in less than 5 years |
| 07:38.53 | cbreak | "Tuition fee CHF 580 per semester" |
| 07:39.05 | cbreak | thta's for the university I studied at |
| 07:39.11 | Shirik | what is a CHF 580 |
| 07:39.28 | nevcairiel | mine was at around 600€/sem |
| 07:39.30 | Shirik | 600 DOLLARS PER SEMESTER |
| 07:39.31 | Shirik | wtf |
| 07:39.32 | cbreak | about 580/0.83 dollars |
| 07:39.40 | Shirik | mine's like |
| 07:39.44 | Shirik | $1000 per credit hour |
| 07:39.53 | Shirik | and I averaged like 17 credit hours per semester |
| 07:40.02 | cbreak | sounds expensive |
| 07:40.05 | nevcairiel | US just doesnt want to educate the poor, making them even poorer! |
| 07:40.06 | cbreak | but we pay taxes too |
| 07:40.07 | tekkub | https://gist.github.com/cc85affcc9c9363c32cb |
| 07:40.08 | tekkub | TOTAL ESTIMATED COSTS: $26,075 |
| 07:40.11 | tekkub | jeebus |
| 07:40.17 | cbreak | it's a federal university |
| 07:40.18 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Easiest way to increase the average income in the US |
| 07:40.21 | Shirik | kill off the poor |
| 07:40.22 | tekkub | that was like $15k for me, including rent |
| 07:40.22 | Arrowmaster | i was only paying $133 a credit hour a few years ago, it went up some though |
| 07:41.56 | nevcairiel | I also didn't have to live on campus, was reasonably close from my home, saving money right there. :p |
| 07:43.13 | zenzelezz | "If you're like a lot of Firefox 4 users out there, you've probably noticed that Firefox has a serious memory problem — it uses more than it really should. At long last, Mozilla developers are finally set to take this issue seriously with a dedicated team called MemShrink that are focused on the problem. 'It's pretty clear by now that this is a much bigger problem than any one person can likely tackle,' Mozilla Developer Johnny |
| 07:43.14 | zenzelezz | Stenback said." |
| 07:43.30 | Shirik | didn't they say that back in firefox 3 |
| 07:43.34 | Shirik | and firefox 2 |
| 07:43.45 | nevcairiel | they never had a fancy task-force team! |
| 07:43.47 | Arrowmaster | no back in firefox3 they claim 'there is no memory leak' |
| 07:44.02 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:44.04 | Arrowmaster | when i could prove them wrong |
| 07:44.25 | Wobin | A Computing 48 credit point course (1 year) is $21,600 |
| 07:45.05 | nevcairiel | i guess its expensive down there as well |
| 07:45.18 | Wobin | it's less of an issue, really, given how we pay it back |
| 07:45.49 | Wobin | if you earn less than 25k or so, you never have to pay it back, really |
| 07:46.03 | nevcairiel | but then your education was probably also wasted. :P |
| 07:46.21 | Wobin | more than that, and 2.5% of your salary repaid to the loan |
| 07:46.29 | Wobin | or some such numbers |
| 07:46.54 | Wobin | nevcairiel: yeah, but you've wasted your education, and your life sucks |
| 07:47.08 | Wobin | but you're not having to pay back a terrible loan at the same time |
| 07:47.45 | Wobin | and all the repayments are done by the employer, as part of the salary package |
| 07:47.48 | nevcairiel | its kind of unfair for those people that do use their education, even if they earn more due to that |
| 07:48.05 | Wobin | nevcairiel: well, 25k is pretty low |
| 07:48.21 | Wobin | around 32-35 is normal for someone in say, retail |
| 07:49.01 | Wobin | and for IT, you should be getting 50k leaving uni |
| 07:49.13 | Wobin | at least I think that's what it's like now |
| 07:49.51 | Wobin | nevcairiel: although, I can't see why it's unfair to the people who do pay off their loans? |
| 07:50.57 | nevcairiel | i dunno, everyone should pay, or no-one. In the end, that means you have to pay your loan, and the other guys loan through taxes or something |
| 07:51.36 | Wobin | that's an odd sort of outlook |
| 07:52.06 | Wobin | you've borrowed money from the government, you have the capacity to repay your loans, because you earn sufficient amounts |
| 07:52.21 | Wobin | so you repay your loans on a sliding scale representant by your current salary |
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| 07:52.47 | Wobin | it's not like you're repaying the other persons loan as well |
| 07:52.51 | nevcairiel | thats fine, but the problem is that the tax payers have to come up with the money that the low-wage people cannot pay |
| 07:53.22 | Wobin | sure, but that's how the cost of education works |
| 07:53.54 | Wobin | all these courses and degrees aren't going to encourage people to take less than low paying jobs |
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| 07:55.24 | Wobin | it's not as if there's a huge influx of people trying to rort the system by getting a good education, then taking ridiculously low paying jobs to 'shove it to the man' =P |
| 07:55.50 | nevcairiel | does everyone get the loan, or is there like a limit, when you're already rich you have to pay yourself? |
| 07:56.15 | Wobin | everyone who goes through highschool, does the year 12 exams, can get a position in uni |
| 07:56.21 | Wobin | and it's only the first degree |
| 07:56.50 | Wobin | you can certainly pay off the loan straight off the bat if you want |
| 07:57.05 | Wobin | you get a decent discount if you do |
| 07:57.27 | nevcairiel | thats the same here, although our loans arent that high so its probably more realistic to do it =) |
| 07:58.32 | Shirik | I intend to pay off my school loans as slowly as I can :P |
| 07:58.41 | Shirik | I need the money, and it's not really hurting me so long as I keep on top of them |
| 07:59.14 | nevcairiel | I'm just glad to not have needed one |
| 07:59.26 | Shirik | I guess the interest is bad |
| 07:59.37 | Shirik | but I'll just have to deal with that |
| 07:59.45 | Shirik | it could be worse |
| 08:02.23 | nevcairiel | our student loan (since its directly from the gov) is also without interest, but they force you to pay back once you start working, so you cant sit on it for ever |
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| 08:09.20 | airtonix | nevcairiel: thats not true |
| 08:09.56 | airtonix | you make it sound like individuals who eat food have to subsidise others with their "hard earned wages" through taxes |
| 08:10.20 | airtonix | when most of the government income through taxes actually comes from corporations |
| 08:11.25 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.49 | Arrowmaster | and those corporations need to pay even more and stop using 'creative accounting' to make it so they dont owe any taxes at all |
| 08:12.32 | airtonix | which means that in comparison to the amount of money that is "doled" out |
| 08:12.36 | airtonix | to indivduals |
| 08:13.02 | Wobin | airtonix: oh, hm. Maybe I'm just thinking about the UAI |
| 08:13.04 | airtonix | coporations represent the higher turnover for conessions and costs |
| 08:13.12 | Wobin | or whatever it is now =P |
| 08:13.38 | airtonix | yeah but you can only use it for a certain amount of units |
| 08:13.49 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:13.51 | airtonix | and you can't use it for masters degree |
| 08:13.54 | Wobin | which is perfectly fine |
| 08:14.26 | Wobin | It's there to get you a decent education, if you want to extend that education, then it's up to you |
| 08:14.34 | airtonix | i think its outrageous considering the pathetic content delivery australian university produce |
| 08:14.46 | Wobin | hehe, well, that's another issue entirely |
| 08:16.06 | airtonix | and i really hate the political undertones at university |
| 08:16.21 | Wobin | personally, I think what universities really need to teach, is how to learn, how to analytically -think- |
| 08:16.29 | Wobin | as a basis of education |
| 08:16.36 | airtonix | yeah well : "you must be apologetic of aboriginals or we will fail you" |
| 08:16.48 | airtonix | not really teaching you to learn |
| 08:17.08 | Wobin | unfortunately, I suspect that you can't really abolish all political influences in uni =( |
| 08:17.17 | airtonix | and i had this pearler from a lecturer the other week : "Keep your opinions to yourself" |
| 08:17.23 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 08:18.32 | airtonix | anway, xmen? buggirl or screamboy? |
| 08:21.11 | airtonix | oh and hooray for wolverines 30sec appearance |
| 08:21.14 | airtonix | ;< |
| 08:22.19 | Wobin | it's in his contract =P |
| 08:25.24 | airtonix | http://www.metro.co.uk/film/865708-x-men-first-class-vs-star-trek-film-fight-club |
| 08:26.18 | airtonix | loool |
| 08:26.20 | airtonix | Arm Fall Off Boy |
| 08:28.03 | airtonix | That’s right, Leonard Nimoy directed Three Men And A Baby! Spock. From Star Trek. Directed Three Men And A Baby. Forget about First Class. Watch Three Men And A Baby. Leonard Nimoy directed it. It’s class. |
| 08:44.09 | mikma | industrial: http://imgur.com/gallery/OzGyz |
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| 08:54.46 | airtonix | 502 at https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/auth/ for others too ? |
| 08:54.57 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 08:55.01 | airtonix | :( |
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| 09:09.04 | airtonix | oh yeah also Wobin if you're recieving centrelink benefits (austudy or newstart), then you also get 1000$ a semester if you study fulltime for the first 35days |
| 09:09.32 | airtonix | taxfree no repayment |
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| 09:34.12 | zenzelezz | "On electronic devices that only allow the current time zone to be configured using maps or city names, UTC can be selected indirectly by selecting Reykjavik, Iceland, which is always on UTC time and does not use daylight saving." -- interesting |
| 09:34.33 | p3lim | I need some help with a piece of math, anyone with a few minutes spare? |
| 09:34.55 | zenzelezz | if it takes minutes, then it sounds beyond my math skills |
| 09:35.35 | p3lim | Ill get some documented piece of code |
| 09:35.50 | Cairenn | Wobin, mikma: http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/various/all_dogs_go_to_heaven.jpg |
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| 09:39.45 | p3lim | zenzelezz: http://pastebin.com/m7cWxSwf |
| 09:43.05 | p3lim | heres a mockup of how it should look like, brown = frame, green = current health, black = incoming heal: http://i.imgur.com/WgGp5.png |
| 09:44.37 | zenzelezz | so is it the offset or the width you want calculated? |
| 09:45.37 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/278vr |
| 09:45.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:45.55 | p3lim | both, the texture I will use for incoming heals will just stretch by offset |
| 09:47.54 | zenzelezz | sorry, I'm a bit slow in remembering right now... are you anchoring the left side of your "incoming" texture to the right side of the health bar, or the right side of the texture to the left side of the health bar? |
| 09:48.58 | zenzelezz | at least I imagine I'd anchor the left side of incoming to the right side of health at a fixed offset, and only adjust the width |
| 09:49.19 | p3lim | left side of the incoming to the right side of health |
| 09:49.27 | p3lim | ofcourse, width would do the same job |
| 09:49.48 | Wobin | Cairenn: haha =) |
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| 09:50.08 | zenzelezz | I wish someone smarter would wake up; I forgot to eat last night and haven't had breakfast, so I'm dimmer than usual |
| 09:51.35 | p3lim | I just ate, but I've been out on field duty the past week, so my head is still worked up |
| 09:52.22 | Wobin | p3lim: I don't quite get what you're after |
| 09:53.16 | p3lim | I need some math to determine the width of the incoming bar, and make sure it does not go outside of the unitframe, but rather stay 2px inside of it |
| 09:53.28 | Wobin | why not have it go outside? |
| 09:53.38 | p3lim | because it would overlap other frames |
| 09:53.39 | Wobin | if it's incoming heals, surely you'd want to see overheals? |
| 09:53.51 | Wobin | it's a temporary overlap |
| 09:54.28 | zenzelezz | oh; something like "math.min(health + incoming; max - incoming) - 2" then perhaps? |
| 09:54.30 | p3lim | Thing is, in a 25man raid that overlap extends up to 200 px out of the unitframe on tanks |
| 09:55.07 | zenzelezz | the second part might be completely wrong, I shouldn't offer untested advice in this state :-p |
| 09:55.21 | Wobin | I'd make that just 'max' |
| 09:55.24 | Wobin | in the second |
| 09:55.37 | Wobin | cause you want to cut off at max health |
| 09:55.37 | p3lim | yeah max should do well |
| 09:55.45 | zenzelezz | I thought he was calculating the width of an anchored texture |
| 09:55.59 | zenzelezz | so using max would effectively be current + max |
| 09:56.24 | p3lim | but I need it to work with my frame width |
| 09:56.44 | zenzelezz | I'm just going to stop before I make more of a fool of myself now; sorry :-) |
| 09:56.53 | p3lim | max is the full width of the unitframe |
| 09:57.03 | Wobin | he has a point, I think |
| 09:57.43 | Wobin | you want the width of the incoming |
| 09:57.49 | p3lim | yeah |
| 09:58.43 | p3lim | but the max size has to be healthmax - health, theres where math.min comes in |
| 10:00.04 | p3lim | math.min(health + incoming, max) works well, I just need to make it work with the frame width |
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| 10:00.32 | Wobin | so... if(max health - incoming - health > 0 return incoming else 0 |
| 10:01.03 | Wobin | no that doesn't work |
| 10:01.50 | Wobin | if(max health - incoming - health > 0 return incoming else max health - health |
| 10:02.24 | zenzelezz | that looks like what I was trying to say |
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| 10:02.37 | Wobin | yeah, I don't think you need math.min |
| 10:03.26 | Wobin | because you have to calculate the width of the bar before applying the math.min, at which point you already know which to use |
| 10:04.06 | Wobin | woot, SMAC downloaded |
| 10:04.57 | Wobin | lets see if I'm as terrible at rts as I recall |
| 10:30.25 | airtonix | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 10:30.42 | Torhal | staples airtonix to a rabid wombat. |
| 10:30.50 | airtonix | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 10:31.09 | airtonix | spinach and lemon juice |
| 10:32.46 | p3lim | (math.min(incoming, max - min) / max) * width) |
| 10:36.58 | airtonix | Torhal: what did you eat for dinner ? |
| 10:37.25 | airtonix | did someone more talented than you cook it? |
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| 11:01.47 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
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| 11:16.39 | Fisker | damn Parnic |
| 11:16.45 | Fisker | wtf are you guys uploading in that Steam cloud? |
| 11:16.51 | Fisker | i've been syncing DNF since yesterday |
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| 12:13.00 | industrial | good times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4BZ6f5esw |
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| 13:27.32 | airtonix | even better times : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7410095177695043805# |
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| 14:18.20 | Parnic | because you said skidrow would get to it first, fisker |
| 14:21.38 | Fisker | wat? |
| 14:21.39 | Fisker | when? |
| 14:21.51 | Fisker | btw why did you tune down the amount of "pro-tips" |
| 14:21.56 | Fisker | i keep getting actual useful tips |
| 14:22.01 | airtonix | there is no need for violence |
| 14:22.06 | airtonix | I AM spartacus |
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| 14:22.32 | Parnic | is Rift any fun? |
| 14:22.41 | Computerpunk | Allods is more interesting. |
| 14:22.48 | airtonix | Wow will never die |
| 14:23.21 | Parnic | man, what kind of name is allods? :P |
| 14:23.31 | airtonix | the one that Allods uses? |
| 14:24.11 | airtonix | it's a game of russian origin |
| 14:28.12 | Ackis | Parnic: I enjoy it, it's like WoW but different enough |
| 14:28.37 | Ackis | the random events and public groups are two big features that I'd like in WoW |
| 14:29.11 | Fisker | source Parnic |
| 14:29.20 | Parnic | i don't care that much, fisker |
| 14:29.24 | Fisker | Ackis wasn't there something about the new xbox update ruining some console? |
| 14:29.33 | Fisker | consoles* |
| 14:29.36 | Parnic | yes. very old ones |
| 14:29.40 | Fisker | because they couldn't read the new disc format |
| 14:29.41 | Fisker | aww |
| 14:29.43 | Ackis | Fisker: it affected a low % and if it affected you, MS sent you a new one |
| 14:30.05 | Fisker | baw |
| 14:30.16 | Fisker | i was dusting off my old xbawks to see if i could get a new slim for free |
| 14:30.16 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:30.23 | Ackis | I was hoping mine would get affected but it didn't :( |
| 14:30.28 | Fisker | also my controller doesn't work the xbox button is stuck :( |
| 14:30.30 | jnwhiteh | there should be an achi in PvZ for defeating a level using only spikeweed =) |
| 14:30.32 | Ackis | should get his copy of Duke today |
| 14:30.45 | Fisker | i got my copy of duke yesterday |
| 14:30.57 | Fisker | i'm disappoint over the lack of "pro-tips" |
| 14:30.58 | jnwhiteh | i saw |
| 14:31.17 | Ackis | how did you get it on steam yesterday? |
| 14:31.35 | Fisker | because the international release is june 10th |
| 14:31.40 | Ackis | ah |
| 14:31.40 | Fisker | EUROPA FUCK YEAH |
| 14:31.42 | Ackis | https://steamcommunity.com/?goto=actions/LinkMyFacebookProfile |
| 14:31.53 | Fisker | noty.jpg Ackis |
| 14:32.05 | airtonix | why |
| 14:32.31 | airtonix | <facebook-data user="fisker" likes="4,096"/> |
| 14:32.40 | airtonix | is that all? |
| 14:32.42 | Fisker | unlikely airtonix |
| 14:32.42 | Parnic | oh snap, fisker. Duke.Nukem.Forever.Proper-SKIDROW |
| 14:32.48 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 14:33.09 | Fisker | yeah Parnic |
| 14:33.15 | Fisker | razer messed up |
| 14:33.27 | Parnic | no u |
| 14:33.33 | airtonix | i think you two should be banned |
| 14:33.49 | Parnic | you should be fanned |
| 14:34.01 | Fisker | whats up with the PS3 version being less than 3GB btw? |
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| 14:34.10 | Parnic | how should i know |
| 14:34.41 | Fisker | wat hax |
| 14:34.43 | Ackis | why do you troll Parnic about duke Fisker? |
| 14:34.51 | Fisker | people are selling the kinect for less than ~100 euro |
| 14:34.57 | Fisker | i'm not trolling anyone Ackis |
| 14:35.38 | airtonix | hoho |
| 14:36.30 | Fisker | weren't they supposed to take off 100$ of the xbox price here at E3? |
| 14:38.22 | Fisker | answer me Ackis |
| 14:38.56 | Ackis | je ne sais pas |
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| 14:52.23 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 14:52.42 | Ackis | they took this kid who has been #1 in online racing sims, doesn't have a drivers license, etc and put him in a real race car just to see what would happen |
| 14:52.53 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p_sCrM1CcI |
| 14:55.59 | airtonix | happens everyday bro |
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| 15:05.38 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2267584992?page=2#39 |
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| 15:08.09 | mckenziemc | bumps Ackis |
| 15:10.17 | bluspacecow | *bumps it too* |
| 15:10.19 | Ackis | lol bluspacecow |
| 15:10.25 | bluspacecow | *adds a fondle* |
| 15:10.49 | Ackis | squees |
| 15:11.55 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 15:11.56 | Fisker | answer me |
| 15:12.08 | Ackis | what? |
| 15:12.21 | Fisker | wasn't there supposed to be a price drop on the xbawks? |
| 15:12.24 | Xinhuan | anybody interested in sharing rooms for blizzon? |
| 15:12.56 | Ackis | I don't know Fisker |
| 15:13.22 | Fisker | k Ackis |
| 15:13.27 | Fisker | i am Xinhuan |
| 15:13.31 | Ackis | Xinhuan: <-- |
| 15:13.40 | Fisker | i want you Xinhuan |
| 15:13.43 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 15:13.58 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:14.02 | Fisker | i lol'd a bit |
| 15:14.05 | bluspacecow | 'sup |
| 15:14.16 | Fisker | some guy is complaining about game performance and going on about how it's because it's an outdated engine |
| 15:14.31 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 15:14.43 | bluspacecow | and the punch line is ? |
| 15:15.10 | Fisker | he's retarded |
| 15:15.17 | Xinhuan | "Remember how many chunk updates there are when the sun sets or rises in Minecraft? In 1.7 there are zero." |
| 15:15.23 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:15.36 | Fisker | :O Xinhuan |
| 15:15.42 | bluspacecow | not sure if want xinny. |
| 15:15.50 | Fisker | that's easy to remember Xinhuan |
| 15:16.13 | Fisker | when does this shitty youtube video get interesting Ackis ? |
| 15:16.25 | Fisker | oh i guess it's now |
| 15:16.26 | Ackis | Fisker: I didn't say it got interesting did I? |
| 15:16.29 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:16.58 | Fisker | anyway bluspacecow he basically started posting quotes on how WoW was based on the Warcraft 3 engine |
| 15:17.10 | bluspacecow | ........ |
| 15:17.16 | bluspacecow | i have no words |
| 15:17.20 | bluspacecow | only |
| 15:17.28 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.32 | bluspacecow | no |
| 15:17.41 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.40 | Fisker | anyway Ackis |
| 15:19.48 | Fisker | i ctrl+w'd like a boss |
| 15:19.51 | zenzelezz | you can't beat the Spock facepalm: http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/129144483495729203.jpg |
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| 15:42.37 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 15:48.55 | airtonix | broseiden |
| 15:49.15 | airtonix | tebags Fisker |
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| 16:07.34 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://vimeo.com/23761814 |
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| 16:19.51 | Fisker | oh god Parnic |
| 16:19.53 | Fisker | i got the achievement |
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| 16:40.00 | Adys | http://goo.gl/nV9CW |
| 16:49.45 | pompy | Wait, so yesterday was the last day to get your blizzcon tickets digitally? |
| 16:50.20 | Adys | no; that was two weeks ago |
| 16:50.33 | pompy | no what i mean is the ticket holder info |
| 16:50.38 | pompy | blizzcon made it uneditable as of yesterday |
| 16:51.07 | pompy | blizzard* |
| 16:59.05 | pompy | "If you have not entered information by this deadline, all attendee names will default to the full name of the Battle.net account holder" |
| 16:59.08 | pompy | damn |
| 17:00.12 | Adys | pompy: if you can meet the ticket holder physically at blizzcon, they can change the name during the convention |
| 17:00.18 | pompy | yeah i know |
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| 17:07.21 | Fisker | does that mean you got owned pompy ? |
| 17:10.29 | pompy | no ackis enterred my shit in lol |
| 17:10.36 | pompy | but i was tryin to get one for a friend |
| 17:10.39 | pompy | and now its too "late" |
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| 17:20.10 | kd3 | geez |
| 17:20.18 | kd3 | capstone quest awarding 138,800 XP |
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| 17:22.18 | airtonix | ezmode |
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| 17:34.44 | kd3 | wtf; http://standardmadness.com/offbeat/the-most-absurd-road-in-europe-just-opened-in-belgium |
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| 17:36.06 | Fisker | i'm bored kd3 |
| 17:38.04 | Arrowmaster | pompy: you can still get one, just the person that purchased it must be there |
| 17:38.25 | Shirik | that road is epic |
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| 17:40.19 | Arrowmaster | whats with all the blue arrows |
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| 17:43.12 | Fisker | so you don't drive on the obstacles? |
| 17:43.19 | Fisker | btw i don't get it |
| 17:43.30 | Fisker | doesn't both sides have room for pedestrians? |
| 17:43.43 | Fisker | good job ruining that with those obstacles that force pedestrians on the road |
| 17:43.44 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:45.06 | nevcairiel | doesnt look like its meant to have space for pedestrians |
| 17:45.13 | Arrowmaster | my fan is currently playing guitar hero world tour for me |
| 17:51.19 | pompy | Arrowmaster: yeah but finding out and trusting one may be a little tricky |
| 17:51.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah buying one on ebay or something now may be a bit risky |
| 17:52.09 | Arrowmaster | finding somebody on a gaming site could be a bit more safe |
| 17:53.02 | Arrowmaster | some people will just get the badges in their name then give them to you instead of getting the names changed at the con, hell there was a guy on the street last year selling them |
| 17:55.25 | Torhal | Gah |
| 17:56.16 | Torhal | Guess I have to head into the office - I made a symbolic link to my DropBox-resident AddOns folder for my PTR copy of WoW, and that somehow makes it necessary to download another 5GB of data. |
| 17:56.18 | Torhal | WTF? |
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| 18:02.17 | airtonix | sparkleshare dude |
| 18:02.17 | airtonix | btw Torhal |
| 18:02.24 | Arrowmaster | wtf, my amazon wishlist now has a "This title is no longer available" in it, no mention of what it was, luckly i could still goto the customer discussion and figure out what it was |
| 18:03.04 | Arrowmaster | and now i know what im going to pickup next time im in gamestop while im getting my preorders |
| 18:03.39 | airtonix | why would you goto gamestop? |
| 18:04.00 | Arrowmaster | to get retailer exclusive duke DLC |
| 18:04.21 | Arrowmaster | dont worry im returning my copy of duke to gamestop within the week |
| 18:04.26 | Shirik | ew |
| 18:04.32 | Arrowmaster | getting BoS edition from amazon |
| 18:04.33 | Shirik | free checking accounts amy be disappearing... |
| 18:04.36 | Shirik | may* |
| 18:05.10 | Arrowmaster | i doubt mine will go away, but i could just convert it to a savings account and actually get interest |
| 18:05.13 | Shirik | reegulations changed that limit fees on debit purchases, and as a result it appears banks are "testing" new fee-based accounts |
| 18:05.21 | airtonix | so Shirik does your iphone have an addressbook ? |
| 18:05.28 | Shirik | you assume I have an iphone |
| 18:05.34 | airtonix | well yes |
| 18:05.35 | Shirik | if I did, I would kill myself |
| 18:05.40 | airtonix | you shouldn't say that |
| 18:05.50 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: is this related to the debit card overcharge changes? |
| 18:05.57 | Shirik | I don't know what change |
| 18:06.01 | Shirik | just reading an article about it |
| 18:06.09 | Shirik | http://www.kimatv.com/news/business/123686939.html |
| 18:06.51 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Good luck gaining interest. Some banks charge $3 a month on savings accounts, which means if you deposit $100 a month you're still LOSING 3% |
| 18:06.56 | Shirik | I probably won't have to worry about it. Due to a technicality I fall into bankofamerica's "preferred" customers, so they wave fees on just about everything; I even get free interest checking |
| 18:07.10 | Shirik | I get free cashier's checks |
| 18:07.12 | Shirik | etc. |
| 18:07.37 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:07.47 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 18:08.01 | Fisker | what's the procedure for removing an administrator on wikipedia? |
| 18:08.08 | Shirik | [[WP:ARBCOM]] |
| 18:08.37 | Fisker | and if not the arbcom? |
| 18:08.56 | Shirik | you lose |
| 18:09.08 | airtonix | Torhal: i need advice from an iOS user |
| 18:09.17 | airtonix | it's cerial |
| 18:09.29 | airtonix | pls |
| 18:09.39 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i actually like my bank because theyve gone a different path from most, like when the rules on debit card overcharges changed they called every customer and asked if the customer wanted to have the debit card get rejected if there wasnt enough money and there be no fee, or if they wanted the card to go through anyway and be charged a fee, and they defaulted it to the first option |
| 18:09.47 | Arrowmaster | from what i heard other banks did the opposite |
| 18:10.02 | Fisker | i presume you're setting the ratio of ambguity to in app purchase costs airtonix ? |
| 18:10.12 | Fisker | ambiguity |
| 18:10.14 | airtonix | not this time |
| 18:11.49 | Shirik | I have to go buy black pants and shoes |
| 18:11.52 | Fisker | seeking feedback from other developers then dismiss it, then implement it secretly? |
| 18:11.56 | Shirik | To do that I need to go about 50 miles away |
| 18:11.58 | Shirik | epic fail |
| 18:12.21 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:12.31 | Fisker | i was thinking about making edits to a wikipedia page |
| 18:12.33 | Fisker | but i didn't |
| 18:12.34 | Fisker | bam |
| 18:13.11 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Both of my banks did the former, and my new bank is one of the ones with the $3/month checking fee. |
| 18:13.14 | Torhal | Er, savings fee |
| 18:13.24 | Torhal | But I think by law you have to opt IN to the overdraft fees. |
| 18:14.47 | Fisker | why call it a debit card then Arrowmaster ? |
| 18:14.51 | airtonix | no Fisker |
| 18:15.13 | Fisker | are you sure your enquiry is about an apple product then airtonix ? |
| 18:15.18 | airtonix | i need to know if iOS apps can add extra menu items to the share menu in the addressbook application |
| 18:15.36 | Fisker | probably not |
| 18:15.40 | Fisker | that would be too confusing |
| 18:15.49 | Fisker | (cue Steve Jobs announcing it as a feature at the next WWDC) |
| 18:15.52 | airtonix | waht |
| 18:16.12 | airtonix | you mean having to recreate the addressbook all over just to have extra share options is not as confusing? |
| 18:16.48 | airtonix | mmm let me share this contact via bumping... addressbook > contact > share.. ??!?!?!? wtf where is bump??? |
| 18:16.55 | Fisker | if i were Steve Jobs i would probably yes |
| 18:17.01 | Fisker | say yes* |
| 18:17.52 | airtonix | so basically they control what is the most popular method of sharing information |
| 18:18.05 | Fisker | i wonder if apple ever did get sued for that "tracking" issue |
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| 18:32.54 | Torhal | BTW, airtonix: I haven't had a cell phone since 2005, so I'll be of no help in your iOS queries. |
| 18:33.03 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 18:34.46 | industrial | Torhal: why |
| 18:35.23 | Torhal | I didn't like being always-reachable, the phones then sucked, and American phone companies are prick bastard motherfuckers. |
| 18:35.59 | industrial | I havent had a landline phone since like 03 :p |
| 18:36.36 | Torhal | I don't think I should have to pay the same amount for a simple voice plan with limited time that I pay for broadband Internet at home. |
| 18:36.52 | Fisker | i understand the last part Torhal |
| 18:36.55 | Torhal | Or that I should have to pay for limited time that I mystically lose once the month rolls over. |
| 18:38.44 | Fisker | i pay like ~$25 a month |
| 18:38.47 | Fisker | and get everything i need |
| 18:38.49 | Fisker | kablam |
| 18:40.27 | Fisker | u jelly Torhal ? |
| 18:40.35 | mckenziemc | your point |
| 18:41.22 | Torhal | No, Fisker, I am not jelly. I'm an angry American. |
| 18:41.36 | Fisker | angry american = jelly |
| 18:41.50 | Torhal | slaps Fisker around with a useless and annoying meme. |
| 18:41.58 | Fisker | it's not a meme Torhal |
| 18:42.23 | Torhal | Oh that's right - it's a retardation. |
| 18:42.25 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:44.36 | mckenziemc | ^ |
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| 18:57.31 | Mikk | I'm forced to use ADSL here. To use ADSL i need a landline phone.... OR a special rate for ADSL-without-landline. The funny thing is, that special rate is more expensive than to just pay for landline phone and not use it. |
| 18:57.35 | Mikk | FUUUU telia |
| 18:58.32 | airtonix | wut? |
| 18:58.42 | airtonix | in au it's called naked-dsl |
| 18:59.09 | airtonix | you have no copper pair attached to your terminal at the exchange is all |
| 18:59.28 | Mikk | Exactly |
| 18:59.37 | Mikk | And it's more expensive to have that per month here in sweden |
| 18:59.43 | Mikk | Than it is to just pay for landline phone |
| 18:59.50 | airtonix | artifical inflation |
| 18:59.53 | Mikk | should-be-illegal much? |
| 18:59.57 | airtonix | yeah |
| 19:00.27 | Iriel | Is that due to subsidies on landline phones? |
| 19:00.41 | Iriel | Or just because generally those who only need the DSL part are companies, and thus pay more? |
| 19:00.50 | Mikk | i suspect the latter |
| 19:01.00 | airtonix | wut? |
| 19:01.04 | airtonix | companies? |
| 19:01.12 | Mikk | yes |
| 19:01.14 | airtonix | what is your other option? |
| 19:01.23 | airtonix | in other areas |
| 19:01.33 | Mikk | closer to the city there's 100/100 fiber n stuff |
| 19:01.38 | Mikk | i live a little bit too far out |
| 19:01.45 | airtonix | why would companies want dsl over fibre lol |
| 19:01.47 | Arrowmaster | why would a company not need a landline? |
| 19:01.55 | airtonix | voip |
| 19:02.06 | Mikk | funnily that's exactly what i use too |
| 19:02.16 | Iriel | Because they might well have a bunch of satellite devices they need to connect |
| 19:02.27 | airtonix | explain |
| 19:02.37 | Iriel | "Normal consumers" rarely ONLY need DSL |
| 19:02.40 | Iriel | (none of you are normal, hopefully that part is evident) |
| 19:02.52 | airtonix | except in au normal is dsl |
| 19:02.58 | Iriel | Whereas if you're a business there are lots of reasons why you might need data lines to premises you have no voice at |
| 19:03.19 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: i went over att and comcasts caps in less than a week, im far from normal |
| 19:03.20 | airtonix | you're not making sense |
| 19:03.21 | Iriel | airtonix: normal is DSL, with absolutely no voice? |
| 19:03.27 | airtonix | yes irel |
| 19:03.31 | Iriel | wierd |
| 19:03.35 | Iriel | well, AU is odd then |
| 19:04.06 | airtonix | a year ago you *had* pay a monthly fee for a phoneline to get adsl |
| 19:04.16 | airtonix | but now you don't have to |
| 19:04.37 | airtonix | just tell the ISP i want naked-dsl and they just hook it up |
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| 19:05.51 | Iriel | airtonix: and that's what most AU households do? |
| 19:06.00 | airtonix | it is now |
| 19:06.01 | Iriel | airtonix: because I think you perhaps still missed my point |
| 19:06.04 | airtonix | and what i mean exactly is that at the exchange the isp hooks the copper wires from the dslam rack they have installed there to your copper wire pair terminal |
| 19:06.37 | airtonix | but before telstra required you to have their analouge phone copper wires also attached to the same copper wire pair going to to your house |
| 19:06.51 | airtonix | so you had to use a adsl splitter at your house |
| 19:07.46 | airtonix | so if you have a naked-dsl connection you can only recieve phone calls via data means like skype or a voip provider or your mobile phone (obviously) |
| 19:08.01 | airtonix | all of which you would setup separately |
| 19:08.24 | airtonix | soon though we'll be getting 100Mbps fibre |
| 19:08.37 | Iriel | I'm just surprised that most AU consumers do that, rather than not wanting the hassle and just using a normal phone line |
| 19:08.39 | airtonix | all of tasmania is fibred with 100Mbps |
| 19:09.06 | airtonix | well the stupid ones would probably go with the old phone setup |
| 19:09.29 | airtonix | but most businesses get naked now and get a voip plan from the same isp |
| 19:09.43 | airtonix | which turns out much cheaper |
| 19:10.12 | Fisker | what's a landline? |
| 19:10.19 | industrial | Fisker: WHY IS THERE NO USB ON THE GALAXY TAB 10.1? AND WHY DOES IT USE A SHIT PROPRIETARY CONNECTOR INSTEAD OF SAY USB LIKE ALL PHONES NOW? |
| 19:10.29 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 19:10.31 | industrial | yes. |
| 19:10.33 | Fisker | BECAUSE ITS A TABLET INDUSTRIAL |
| 19:10.35 | airtonix | i would be |
| 19:10.39 | Fisker | IT NEEDS MORE POWER THAN USB CAN SUPPLY |
| 19:10.44 | Fisker | If not, fuck them |
| 19:10.50 | industrial | well, fine on that one. |
| 19:10.51 | Fisker | though motorola xoom got it right |
| 19:10.57 | airtonix | how |
| 19:11.11 | Fisker | specific charging cable + usb |
| 19:12.15 | industrial | the tab 10.1 has one audio jack, some hardware buttons and a power connector :( fail |
| 19:12.33 | Fisker | the eee pad is where it's at |
| 19:12.42 | Fisker | except that they're kinda jerks |
| 19:12.47 | Fisker | they piggyback power through a USB 3.0 cable |
| 19:12.50 | Fisker | grossly violating spec |
| 19:12.52 | Arrowmaster | i highly doubt it needs more power than usb can supply |
| 19:12.58 | Fisker | it's like 15V 3A |
| 19:13.07 | Fisker | what if someone thinks "oooh generic usb charger" |
| 19:13.09 | Fisker | BAM |
| 19:13.36 | Arrowmaster | 15v 3a? it seriously needs that much? |
| 19:13.38 | Arrowmaster | why |
| 19:13.48 | airtonix | because |
| 19:13.52 | airtonix | it performs miracles |
| 19:14.04 | Fisker | faster charging Arrowmaster |
| 19:14.29 | foxlit | Spawning on Lost Temple, Fisker. |
| 19:14.35 | Fisker | at the expense of being completely unable to charge from 5v/.5/1A |
| 19:14.52 | Fisker | i once lost a temple at spawn foxlit |
| 19:15.07 | Iriel | From the perspective of the folks who sell you the 3A charger, i'm sure it makes a lot of sense |
| 19:15.54 | Iriel | Look on the bright side, if it was a Sony device it probably wouldn't have USB at all, or if it did you'd have to be a $90 adapter to get to it |
| 19:16.28 | industrial | I'm still waiting for an Ubuntupad |
| 19:16.52 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 19:18.14 | industrial | Because then there'd be free open source software to do everything |
| 19:18.20 | industrial | instead of shitty little 5$ apps |
| 19:19.09 | industrial | and the freedom to do anything I want, like with other computers |
| 19:20.54 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:20.55 | Arrowmaster | i ment why ubuntu specifically |
| 19:21.22 | ccox | android is already open, and you don't have great free apps |
| 19:21.41 | ccox | oh, wait, it's the ubuntu distortion field effect, isn't it? |
| 19:22.01 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 19:22.34 | industrial | I chose Ubuntu because it's the most likely that they will choose it |
| 19:22.42 | industrial | spins Archlinux |
| 19:22.44 | industrial | \o/ |
| 19:23.15 | Arrowmaster | well considering unity, its probably the best fit for a tablet |
| 19:23.22 | Fisker | i hate unity |
| 19:23.24 | industrial | ^ |
| 19:23.29 | Fisker | though it probably works well for a tablet |
| 19:23.46 | industrial | I'm more sold on GNOME3 actually |
| 19:23.48 | airtonix | ccox: android isn't open bro |
| 19:23.59 | Arrowmaster | yes i was kinda hitting on that whole 'wtf is this stupid tablet ui for a desktop you fucking retards' thing |
| 19:24.02 | Torhal | installs Windows 8 on Fisker. |
| 19:24.04 | Fisker | android is open as fuck airtonix |
| 19:24.06 | ccox | anyone can write apps |
| 19:24.13 | airtonix | Fisker: coolstorybro |
| 19:24.29 | airtonix | ccox: decompile the hardware drivers for me then |
| 19:24.34 | industrial | ccox: I dont see it as a tool like a computer though, its more a consumer device |
| 19:24.40 | industrial | _that_ bothers me. |
| 19:24.43 | ccox | you don't need to do that to write apps |
| 19:25.05 | airtonix | i can make apps for windows too |
| 19:25.07 | ccox | industrial: it's not, but then tablets aren't full powered computers |
| 19:25.09 | airtonix | doesn't make windows open |
| 19:25.17 | ccox | airtonix: it is to the developer |
| 19:25.36 | industrial | the API user :p |
| 19:25.37 | airtonix | no |
| 19:25.40 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 19:25.50 | Fisker | but neither does decompiling the hardware drivers make linux open |
| 19:25.52 | Fisker | or android |
| 19:25.54 | airtonix | windows are not open |
| 19:25.58 | Fisker | MINE ARE |
| 19:26.03 | ccox | The compliant was that he wanted ubuntu becuse then he'd have open source apps instead of paying for crapping little apps |
| 19:26.04 | airtonix | pirate |
| 19:26.21 | ccox | you already can have free and open source apps on anything other than the iToys |
| 19:26.28 | airtonix | ccox: i think you walked into a logical fallacy |
| 19:27.10 | Fisker | actually not on Windows phone 7 either ccox |
| 19:27.15 | Fisker | BUT WHO USES THAT AMIRITE? LOL |
| 19:27.20 | airtonix | you do |
| 19:27.26 | ccox | Windows phone, what's that? :-> |
| 19:27.35 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 19:27.41 | airtonix | isn't that nokia now? |
| 19:27.57 | Fisker | yeah poor nokia really |
| 19:28.00 | ccox | You mean that company that used to make phones? |
| 19:28.13 | Fisker | suddenly realizing in 2011 that there is a market for smartphones too |
| 19:28.17 | airtonix | the ones that let you use pyqt4 to make apps |
| 19:28.18 | Mikk | ccox: rubber boots |
| 19:28.20 | ccox | Don't they make toothbrushes or something now, I forget? ;-/ |
| 19:28.43 | Fisker | reminds me of that ad one of the telecompanies were running |
| 19:29.01 | Fisker | "It's 2011, time to wake up and get a smartphone" |
| 19:29.24 | airtonix | "You want freedom? get a windows smartphone today and open your horizons" |
| 19:29.39 | airtonix | inb4rage |
| 19:31.06 | Ackis | hey Fisker I got dukes big package |
| 19:31.47 | Fisker | i want your big package |
| 19:31.55 | Cairenn|afk | Wobin: awww |
| 19:32.51 | Fisker | hey Ackis show Cairenn|afk your new big package |
| 19:32.57 | Ackis | sighs |
| 19:33.05 | Fisker | u jelly Ackis ? |
| 19:33.16 | ccox | Hmm, Cairenn is awake, and not so AFK |
| 19:33.38 | Fisker | exactly |
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| 19:34.01 | Ackis | Fisker: I just put a pic of my new big package on facebook |
| 19:34.05 | Fisker | damn |
| 19:34.09 | Fisker | if only i used facebook |
| 19:34.17 | airtonix | now you can |
| 19:34.23 | airtonix | http://facebook.com |
| 19:34.35 | Ackis | hey Fisker http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150213991801686&set=a.180834756685.126105.512851685&type=1&ref=nf |
| 19:34.40 | airtonix | it's been out of beta for a couple of days now |
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| 20:14.27 | Adys | is xdg-screensaver a valid command on macos? |
| 20:15.01 | Arrowmaster | doubtful |
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| 20:17.18 | airtonix | loool |
| 20:17.40 | Iriel | Adys: not in snow leopard |
| 20:17.46 | Iriel | No idea about other versions |
| 20:17.50 | Adys | Iriel: /System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine |
| 20:17.52 | Adys | does this work? |
| 20:18.07 | Iriel | That works |
| 20:18.29 | Adys | this looks totally unreliable |
| 20:18.32 | Adys | there has to be a better way |
| 20:19.33 | airtonix | jobs would disagree with you |
| 20:19.58 | foxlit | Why are you starting the screensaver from a command line? :) |
| 20:20.40 | Adys | Wine |
| 20:21.50 | foxlit | open -b com.apple.ScreenSaver.Engine |
| 20:22.03 | Adys | that looks a LOT better |
| 20:22.26 | foxlit | open -a ScreenSaverEngine |
| 20:22.53 | Adys | Iriel: does that last one work? |
| 20:23.09 | Iriel | Yes |
| 20:23.24 | Iriel | both do |
| 20:23.28 | Adys | thanks guys |
| 20:23.51 | airtonix | you're welcome |
| 20:24.01 | Iriel | You can add -W if you want to wait until it is cancelled |
| 20:24.05 | Adys | cuts off airtonix's penix |
| 20:24.14 | airtonix | jserk |
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| 22:11.49 | mikma | http://youtu.be/eebBjs507Yc |
| 22:14.12 | mikma | http://gizmodo.com/5809436/exclusive-cockpit-video-of-the-craziest-flyby-ever |
| 22:30.45 | industrial | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/dirty_things.jpg |
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| 23:31.48 | mckenziemc | what happened to theunderminejournal's sales heat maps : / |
| 23:36.59 | sylvanaar | you guys know much about PubNub? |
| 23:38.42 | Ackis | how much spell penetration do you need for pvp? |
| 23:39.24 | Ackis | and do you need any +hit? |
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| 23:42.38 | mckenziemc | base spell miss vs same level is 4% |
| 23:42.54 | mckenziemc | idk anything about spell pen |
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