| 00:04.52 | Kraps | mouse over "get started here" and look at the URL O_o http://wordpress.com/ |
| 00:13.45 | Seerah | lol |
| 00:17.10 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5809208/ezio-ages-kills-gracefully-in-assassins-creed-revelations |
| 00:21.35 | Kraps | every time it shows is face with the grey beard its like "whoa" |
| 00:21.35 | Kraps | his* |
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| 00:31.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.1.x ToC: 40100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday Adys! || #RiftUIDev is now open |
| 00:32.23 | sylvanaar | does rift have an sdk now |
| 00:36.21 | xdpirate | sylvanaar, I read an article on their site saying they made a sexy UI so people wouldn't have to use addons, and planned keeping it that way for the foreseeable future |
| 00:36.37 | sylvanaar | aj |
| 00:36.38 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 00:36.39 | foxlit | You know who has a fun job? |
| 00:36.42 | foxlit | SC2 UI designers |
| 00:36.59 | sylvanaar | so what do they talk about in #RiftUIDev |
| 00:37.01 | sylvanaar | i wonder |
| 00:37.09 | sylvanaar | skinning? |
| 00:37.24 | foxlit | One of their design objective must be "Design a UI that'll force the user to perform lots of needless actions" |
| 00:37.28 | Adys | sylvanaar: I wondered too. I joined and they were talking about formatting their hard drives. |
| 00:37.31 | Adys | Rift does that to you. |
| 00:37.32 | xdpirate | hahaha |
| 00:37.38 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 00:38.05 | Mr_Rabies | i thought rift recently announced they were gonna have addons D: |
| 00:39.35 | Mr_Rabies | also http://www.riftui.com/community.php |
| 00:39.36 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
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| 00:41.26 | xdpirate | Mr_Rabies, http://rift.incgamers.com/trion-clarifies-position-on-addons/ |
| 00:41.40 | xdpirate | >Instead, we chose to provide a robust, attractive UI that players could customize in many ways. |
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| 00:42.38 | sylvanaar | they dont want a robust developer community? |
| 00:42.46 | sylvanaar | why do mmo's all do that |
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| 00:43.08 | sylvanaar | they think they're making secret sauce? |
| 00:43.12 | foxlit | "Monitoring addons can a time consuming process for a development team and I think TRION has taken the right stance with regards to addons." |
| 00:43.20 | foxlit | Someone take that man out back. |
| 00:43.45 | sylvanaar | ah yes - i dont like UI element A, well wait 6 months maybe we'll fix it] |
| 00:44.00 | Mr_Rabies | works okay for apple ;] |
| 00:44.13 | Mr_Rabies | also, i had no clue the hinterlands were in rift |
| 00:44.14 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/45dg0.jpg |
| 00:45.05 | Adys | lol |
| 00:45.12 | Adys | scary |
| 00:45.45 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 00:45.50 | Arrowmaster | that is a direct fucking copy |
| 00:45.57 | foxlit | xdpirate: ew, old link. |
| 00:46.25 | foxlit | It's been a while since I saw the hinterlands, but it looks superficial at best |
| 00:47.03 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5809212/does-the-new-xbox-360-dashboard-look-familiar-to-you/gallery/ |
| 00:47.11 | Adys | foxlit: theres an additional lake and some temple instead of temple ruins |
| 00:47.17 | xdpirate | foxlit, well, I haven't seen any newer post stating the opposite :) |
| 00:47.18 | Mr_Rabies | yeah basically in xdpirate's link they said they don't want to implement an addon api until they can do it right |
| 00:47.25 | Adys | and the village at the bottomright isn't a troll village. |
| 00:47.26 | foxlit | xdpirate: http://rift.incgamers.com/rift-addons-incoming/ |
| 00:47.31 | Arrowmaster | what the hell is with microsoft and constantly changing the 360 dashboard to make it less themable |
| 00:47.34 | sylvanaar | thats what they all say |
| 00:47.54 | xdpirate | foxlit, nice! |
| 00:48.16 | foxlit | It's more or less on the front page of the site you linked :/ |
| 00:49.00 | foxlit | hinterlands has a tree. |
| 00:49.18 | xdpirate | well I just googled "rift addons" and that was the first hit :p |
| 00:49.33 | foxlit | but anyway, imagine a zone surrounded by mountains |
| 00:49.48 | foxlit | You'd probably not want to have it entirely enclosed, so you add a border to the sea. |
| 00:50.00 | foxlit | Entirely green landscapes are boring, so throw in some water. |
| 00:50.05 | foxlit | HINTERLANDS! |
| 00:50.24 | mckenziemc | ~trout foxlit |
| 00:50.25 | purl | ACTION slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout! |
| 01:14.55 | A-KO | ok |
| 01:15.00 | A-KO | minecraft powered tracks are complex shit |
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| 01:30.31 | Shirik | http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/thinking-tech/video-new-darpa-challenge-wants-you-to-build-a-uav/7326 |
| 01:31.59 | Cide | fuck omnotron heroic |
| 01:33.44 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:33.46 | Shirik | why are you so bad |
| 01:34.04 | Cide | I am not |
| 01:34.05 | Cide | Shirik |
| 01:34.09 | Cide | why can't you transpose a matrix |
| 01:34.14 | Shirik | you should join my raid team to join a good team |
| 01:38.12 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 01:40.40 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNjeCwxEgRQ < WTB |
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| 01:52.57 | Cide | Shirik: I can |
| 01:53.20 | xdpirate | playstation pita |
| 01:53.40 | xdpirate | Vite is a boring name :| |
| 01:53.43 | xdpirate | Vita* |
| 01:54.21 | Wobin | "We remain committed to our policy that, when we do release the API to live shards, the API meets our expectations and is supported with the highest standards. " |
| 01:54.23 | Wobin | oh dear |
| 01:54.32 | Wobin | what are they putting themselves up for? |
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| 02:22.59 | Ackis | someone in my guild just got a "72 hour ban for hacking" |
| 02:29.07 | kd3 | ouch. took 3 times to pass the mail goggles test |
| 02:29.12 | kd3 | is le tired |
| 02:29.15 | kd3 | emails out, though |
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| 02:43.14 | Kraps | Ackis: was he hacking? |
| 02:43.51 | Ackis | no |
| 02:44.37 | Kraps | you cant trust a hacker |
| 02:45.29 | mckenziemc | you can't trust a human |
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| 02:54.26 | Mr_Rabies | blizzard's generally pretty accurate when people get banned for hacking, ackis |
| 02:54.35 | Mr_Rabies | he could have a compromised account though |
| 02:54.53 | Mr_Rabies | someone could farm gold on another server on his account or something |
| 02:58.03 | Kraps | kd3: so have a nap, ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES |
| 03:05.36 | Kraps | i busted my wrist and chipped off some skin zooming past a bicycle handle |
| 03:07.37 | Ackis | Mr_Rabies: it was just a 72 hour ban for hacking which makes me go huh? |
| 03:10.46 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think they did 72hour bans for hacking |
| 03:12.12 | Mr_Rabies | they usually do a temp ban while they investigate |
| 03:12.35 | Mr_Rabies | if it's shown that it was definitely the user of the account it's usually closed |
| 03:14.04 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 03:14.13 | kd3 | every single SecurID token is compromised |
| 03:14.19 | kd3 | boggles |
| 03:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | what |
| 03:15.42 | nebula169 | yea, annoying as hell |
| 03:15.49 | kd3 | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2011/06/rsa-finally-comes-clean-securid-is-compromised.ars |
| 03:15.58 | nebula169 | someone hacked rsa, lol |
| 03:16.15 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i think there's some serious government-funded hacking coming out of china |
| 03:16.28 | Mr_Rabies | this is getting insane |
| 03:16.39 | Arrowmaster | are blizzard tokens from rsa? |
| 03:16.46 | Mr_Rabies | like 10-15 sites i use have sent emails saying they've been compromised in the past year |
| 03:16.53 | kd3 | no |
| 03:16.58 | kd3 | blizz tokens are from vasco |
| 03:17.03 | kd3 | different tech, similar concept |
| 03:17.12 | Mr_Rabies | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digipass |
| 03:17.12 | nebula169 | digipass |
| 03:17.17 | nebula169 | not quite as cool as a multipass |
| 03:17.21 | Mr_Rabies | leeloo multipass |
| 03:17.41 | Mr_Rabies | i was listening to a song featuring milla jovovitch on vocals while we were talking about multipasses |
| 03:18.01 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrQOBcFfEj0 (possibly NSFW, it's puscifer, i forget :X) |
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| 03:18.57 | Arrowmaster | anybody want to fund my idea for a better securid/digipass concept |
| 03:22.35 | Arrowmaster | i can guaranty it can not be remotely hacked |
| 03:22.46 | mckenziemc | is it usable |
| 03:23.07 | Arrowmaster | well its only a concept |
| 03:28.11 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/06/but-then-batman-arkham-asylum |
| 03:29.53 | Trela | I know my father will probably be getting a new RSA token soon. |
| 03:33.34 | Kraps | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/06/scea-president-jack-tretton-apologizes-for-psn-breach-and-outage/#continued |
| 03:38.06 | bleeter | kd3: thanks for the link |
| 03:38.19 | kd3 | np |
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| 04:12.38 | mckenziemc | grr |
| 04:12.48 | mckenziemc | stupid windows handling of softlinks |
| 04:14.38 | mckenziemc | nvm, pebkac :( |
| 04:25.14 | Arrowmaster | you mean junctions |
| 04:25.34 | kd3 | sigh |
| 04:25.49 | mckenziemc | no |
| 04:26.51 | kd3 | found in my college's banner database website: <a href="javascript:window.open('https://-snip-');%20javascript:history.go(-0)">Pay Online</a> |
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| 04:58.22 | Shirik | epic kd3 |
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| 05:11.50 | Shirik | BAD GOOGLE |
| 05:12.01 | Shirik | Google interpreting "country" as "county" |
| 05:12.10 | Shirik | sometimes they're a little too smart for their own good |
| 05:14.05 | kd3 | thinks of a family guy quote... "Isn't 'country' spelled with an 'o'?" |
| 05:16.27 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5809232/the-playstation-branded-3d-display/gallery/ |
| 05:16.35 | Arrowmaster | this is how you sell 3d tech |
| 05:17.29 | Arrowmaster | although everybody in the comments is saying its too expensive for the size and probably only 720p and not 1080p, bunch of fucking whinners should go price a good pc monitor sometime |
| 05:17.49 | Xyphoid | the dual glasses thing is really neat, forget 3d |
| 05:18.24 | kd3 | yeah. that sounds cool |
| 05:18.36 | Arrowmaster | right, but its still a 3dtv though so theres questions about input lag |
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| 05:25.03 | Shirik | o____O |
| 05:25.08 | Shirik | The Wikipedia database is temporarily in read-only mode. This is probably due to routine maintenance; if so, you will be able to edit again within a few minutes. We apologize for any inconvenience this might have caused. |
| 05:25.13 | Shirik | I've never actually seen that before |
| 05:34.12 | Kraps | i have twice i think |
| 05:37.53 | kd3 | whee, that was quick |
| 05:38.12 | kd3 | just had to resize his win7 vm because apparently 20 gigs is just barely enough space to install windows itself, let alone anything else |
| 05:38.23 | mckenziemc1 | derp |
| 05:38.24 | mckenziemc1 | :p |
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| 05:41.36 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/8yRoB.png |
| 05:41.57 | Shirik | Custom Home Service Gold Card containing a dedicated toll-free number to remind you how easy it is to contact us 24 hours a day, 7 days a week* |
| 05:42.04 | Shirik | *Except Sundays and Holidays |
| 05:42.08 | Shirik | what the hell is that supposed to mean? |
| 05:42.20 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 05:42.24 | mckenziemc1 | ........... |
| 05:42.28 | Arrowmaster | 7 days a week except sundays |
| 05:48.17 | Wobin | Shirik: do they turn the phones on at 12:01am monday morning? |
| 05:49.11 | Shirik | I guess so |
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| 05:58.33 | Arrowmaster | haha wtf |
| 05:59.06 | Arrowmaster | im watching BSG and one of the license plates on a wrecked car in the rubble is SEXYMOM |
| 06:06.25 | Shirik | how can you be watching BSG |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik | Family Guy 3 is on |
| 06:06.58 | Arrowmaster | on what |
| 06:07.02 | Shirik | cartoon network |
| 06:07.07 | Shirik | star wars episode 3 |
| 06:07.13 | Arrowmaster | dont get cartoon network |
| 06:07.19 | Shirik | WHAT |
| 06:07.32 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a tv |
| 06:07.47 | Shirik | That's as "WHAT" as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yOw-hYMbDY |
| 06:08.04 | Shirik | (must watch to end) |
| 06:12.27 | Arrowmaster | what the hell was with the com center at the beginning |
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| 06:13.03 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:13.06 | Shirik | supposedly he misclicked the rocks |
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| 06:29.09 | Shirik | lua> string.byte('a') |
| 06:29.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: 97 |
| 06:29.49 | Kraps | Shirik: does he quit a lot of winning games? |
| 06:29.58 | Shirik | yes actually lol |
| 06:30.07 | Shirik | he's very pessimistic |
| 06:32.41 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JS9eCHUtTw |
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| 06:52.00 | sylvanaar_ipad | Good morning |
| 06:55.32 | zenzio | ahoy |
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| 07:22.07 | Fisker | i just realized Shirik |
| 07:22.30 | Fisker | my card is likely going to expire before Diablo 3 is released |
| 07:23.15 | Shirik | owned |
| 07:25.03 | Fisker | i wish i could participate in world ipv6 day |
| 07:25.23 | Fisker | but my ISP is probably like, ipv6 wuts dat? I only know of ipv1 |
| 07:25.24 | Jamash | hey Fisker |
| 07:25.32 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 07:25.41 | Jamash | get your ass to Mars |
| 07:25.53 | Fisker | no |
| 07:25.56 | Fisker | not out here |
| 07:25.56 | Jamash | http://marsparticipate.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/sendyourname/ |
| 07:26.12 | Fisker | no |
| 07:26.42 | Fisker | Yeah right |
| 07:26.55 | Fisker | like i'll give out my location to the US government or aliens |
| 07:27.05 | Jamash | us government *and* aliens! |
| 07:27.14 | Fisker | yeah that's what i meant |
| 07:27.15 | Jamash | it's like two for the price of nothing |
| 07:32.07 | Jamash | THE EYES OF MARS |
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| 07:32.17 | Jamash | O O |
| 07:32.24 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.35 | Jamash | wow that was terribad |
| 07:32.40 | Jamash | SLEEP |
| 07:34.19 | Fisker | kisses jam |
| 07:34.21 | Fisker | damn |
| 07:34.31 | Fisker | now i have a rumor for kissing jam when i wanted to kiss Jamash |
| 07:34.39 | Fisker | help me Shirik |
| 07:36.53 | mckenziemc1 | better than a tumor |
| 07:38.46 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 07:38.51 | Shirik | find me away around wikipedia's abuse filter |
| 07:41.02 | Fisker | no |
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| 07:42.17 | mckenziemc1 | noms on bluspacecoward |
| 07:42.33 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 07:42.58 | bluspacecow | i can never remember the framexml commands so i do a /query purl framexml |
| 07:43.19 | mckenziemc1 | bluspacecow --console |
| 07:43.27 | mckenziemc1 | -console * |
| 07:43.32 | bluspacecow | ty for that |
| 07:43.38 | mckenziemc1 | ExportInterfaceCows |
| 07:43.49 | bluspacecow | i just don't like clogging up the channel for something i can't remember |
| 07:44.21 | Shirik | pokes bluspacecow |
| 07:44.31 | mckenziemc1 | with a skewer |
| 07:44.39 | Shirik | not with a skewer :( |
| 07:44.51 | bluspacecow | hai2u shirik |
| 07:46.40 | bluspacecow | well the 64 bit client stuff is still in the latest build of the PTR that just come out |
| 07:47.44 | mckenziemc1 | chops Fisker into 128 bits |
| 07:48.00 | bluspacecow | why not 56 ? |
| 07:52.15 | Kalroth | 7 bits |
| 07:52.15 | mckenziemc1 | 36 bits |
| 07:52.15 | bluspacecow | what would a sonarian chop him into ? how many bits ? |
| 07:52.15 | bluspacecow | (base 6 counting system) |
| 07:52.15 | bluspacecow | * Sontaran |
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| 08:26.01 | Shirik | YEAH |
| 08:26.04 | Shirik | THANKS PURL |
| 08:26.07 | Shirik | A LOT OF HELP YOU WERE |
| 08:26.38 | Kalroth | huggles purl |
| 08:26.45 | Kalroth | purl: dont listen to the bad man |
| 08:37.23 | Fisker | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00672/4ab34c3_672131m.jpg <-irl trollface? |
| 08:38.05 | Xinhuan | does "int p = p;" cause a compiler error or warning in C? |
| 08:38.26 | Xinhuan | because it doesn't in xcode/objective C |
| 08:39.16 | Shirik | it's legal Xinhuan |
| 08:39.25 | Shirik | but it will probably cause a warning |
| 08:39.25 | zenzio | perfectly legal as far as I'm aware |
| 08:39.36 | Shirik | if anything because p is uninitialized |
| 08:39.41 | Xinhuan | it doesn't cause a damn warning in xcode |
| 08:39.56 | Shirik | What's more interesting to think about is what it does for classes |
| 08:40.01 | Xinhuan | Foo* p = p; |
| 08:40.03 | Xinhuan | no warning either |
| 08:40.09 | mitch0 | that's not a class |
| 08:40.10 | mitch0 | that's a pointer |
| 08:40.14 | Shirik | Foo foo = foo; is supposed to be the same as Foo foo(foo) |
| 08:40.21 | Xinhuan | all objects in objective C must be pointers |
| 08:40.31 | Xinhuan | Foo p; is invalid in Obj-C |
| 08:40.34 | zenzio | why would you expect it to give a warning though? |
| 08:40.48 | Xinhuan | because it's self assigning an uninitliazed object |
| 08:40.51 | Shirik | ^ |
| 08:40.56 | Xinhuan | but it doesn't give a warning |
| 08:41.04 | Xinhuan | well in this case, its a pointer |
| 08:41.35 | zenzio | which version of Xcode? |
| 08:41.39 | Xinhuan | obj-c is a bit old as a language and all objects must be on the heap, hence only pointers are available to access them |
| 08:41.41 | Xinhuan | xcode 4 |
| 08:42.18 | Xinhuan | 4.0.2 to be specific |
| 08:42.26 | zenzio | could file a radar report (or whatever it's called), that sounds like something the LLVM-backend should be able to detect |
| 08:42.33 | zenzio | and one of the things they touted about Xcode 4 |
| 08:42.42 | Shirik | ok |
| 08:42.44 | Shirik | this output hurts my head |
| 08:42.45 | Shirik | http://codepad.org/vFFNEirX |
| 08:42.49 | Xinhuan | xcode also crashes at least once a day for me |
| 08:43.11 | Shirik | it's exactly what I expected |
| 08:43.13 | Xinhuan | and that's without trying to use their integrated svn/git support |
| 08:43.14 | Shirik | but it still hurts my head |
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| 08:43.20 | Xinhuan | if i try to use those, it crashes like 5 times a day |
| 08:44.26 | zenzio | Shirik: you expected that exact value? |
| 08:44.28 | jnwhiteh | Adys: coming today? |
| 08:44.31 | zenzio | and why does it hurt your head? |
| 08:44.35 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:44.49 | Adys | jnwhiteh: really cant, sorry =/ |
| 08:44.54 | Shirik | I have the memory map of codepad.org memorized and I can psychically predict when everyone will make requests |
| 08:44.55 | zenzio | undefined behaviour isn't meant to be easy on the head |
| 08:44.59 | jnwhiteh | Adys: npnp |
| 08:45.05 | jnwhiteh | just wanted to know if i needed to shower earlier =) |
| 08:45.19 | Adys | oh you do need to shower |
| 08:45.25 | mitch0 | zenzio: fwiw, clang gives a warning for { int p = p; return p; } |
| 08:45.26 | jnwhiteh | not until mikma comes =) |
| 08:45.27 | Adys | i can smell it from here |
| 08:45.29 | Xinhuan | yeah so ok, that construct used a copy constructor on itself uninitalized, very strange |
| 08:45.42 | mitch0 | (at return p; for using p uninitialized) |
| 08:45.58 | mitch0 | also, I might've addressed that line to the wrong person |
| 08:46.10 | zenzio | hehe |
| 08:46.52 | Shirik | Xinhuan: But that's what's to be expected :) |
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| 08:46.59 | mikma | jnwhiteh: lol you dont need to shower because of me, i like my men dirty.... whaaaaat? |
| 08:47.55 | Shirik | Xinhuan: gcc gives warning "possibly used uninitialized" |
| 08:48.07 | Shirik | Visual Studio just gets pissed and throws a fit (but no errors) |
| 08:48.13 | Shirik | but like 4 warnings |
| 08:48.21 | Adys | jnwhiteh: whats the cheapest way to get to london from bristol? Friend told me about some bus service that costs ~10gbp, but last time I took something like that it was a good 40gbp |
| 08:48.37 | Xinhuan | heh ok so xcode and objective c just sucks for not giving a warning then |
| 08:48.37 | jnwhiteh | Adys: I dunno, regional transport is not something I know for your area |
| 08:48.43 | mitch0 | adys: hike |
| 08:48.46 | jnwhiteh | I can help you with Oxford, but that doesn't help you |
| 08:48.52 | Adys | well i figured it went through a few towns |
| 08:48.53 | Shirik | uninitialized variable, local variable referenced but uninitialized, assignment to self, code has no effect |
| 08:49.24 | Shirik | oh code has no effect is from a plugin |
| 08:52.31 | Arrowmaster | "Your Microsoft Points balance is too low to complete this transaction. Please add more points to your account." "Current balance: 5410" "Required balance: 4294967295" |
| 08:53.30 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: cough up, cheapskate |
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| 08:54.45 | mitch0 | :) |
| 08:55.43 | Xinhuan | is anyone interested in sharing a room at Hilton for blizzcon this year? |
| 08:56.00 | Adys | Xinhuan: Arrowmaster was looking iirc |
| 08:56.19 | Xinhuan | i already asked him, but he has a friend he's sharing with |
| 08:56.31 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 08:56.42 | Arrowmaster | he just moved and has been out of contact for a bit |
| 08:56.55 | Adys | arent there rooms for 3 there? |
| 08:57.06 | Arrowmaster | not anywhere we could find |
| 08:57.12 | Adys | meh |
| 08:57.19 | Xinhuan | http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/SNAAHHH-Hilton-Anaheim-California/accommodations.do |
| 08:57.23 | Xinhuan | appears no |
| 08:57.26 | Kalroth | 3 people can be in the same bed |
| 08:57.27 | Kalroth | if you want |
| 08:57.34 | Xinhuan | and their ameneties doesn't include rollaways |
| 08:57.43 | Adys | Kalroth: we tried that the other night, remember? The bed almost broke :/ |
| 08:57.46 | Adys | (fatass) |
| 08:57.59 | Kalroth | :( |
| 08:59.31 | Shirik | nice Arrowmaster |
| 09:00.25 | Xinhuan | well, i'm throwing the question out to see if anyone's interested |
| 09:04.40 | bluspacecow | what was the question Xinny ? |
| 09:04.43 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 09:04.48 | bluspacecow | *scrolls up* |
| 09:05.30 | bluspacecow | i'm already sharing a room with 2 other people :( |
| 09:05.48 | Shirik | one's a girl and one's a cup |
| 09:06.07 | Shirik | hides |
| 09:06.18 | Cairenn | Shirik: just no |
| 09:06.44 | Shirik | I actually never saw that video |
| 09:06.50 | Shirik | I probably will when I'm like 70 |
| 09:06.59 | Cairenn | me either, and I have no intention of ever seeing it |
| 09:07.08 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 09:07.18 | Xinhuan | well, its not considered porn |
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| 09:08.50 | zenzio | I remember we were sitting at lunch at work once, me and about six other guys, them being mostly 35ish years old |
| 09:09.09 | zenzio | amused me greatly when one of them suddenly said "so a friend tricked me into seeing 'Two girls one cup'" |
| 09:09.30 | zenzio | the rest claimed not to know what it was; which lead to them all googling it after lunch |
| 09:09.37 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 09:09.55 | Cairenn | and their were retching sounds coming from cubicles all over the office? |
| 09:09.56 | Shirik | wow |
| 09:10.05 | Cairenn | s/their/there/ |
| 09:11.15 | Xinhuan | mostly though, its the reaction videos |
| 09:11.29 | Xinhuan | that are more interesting, but they only make sense after you watched the actual one |
| 09:13.12 | Shirik | ~wiki List of scandals with "-gate" suffix |
| 09:13.18 | Shirik | YOU LIE |
| 09:13.37 | Kalroth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scandals_with_%22-gate%22_suffix owned |
| 09:13.48 | mckenziemc | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirikgate |
| 09:13.55 | Kalroth | purlgate |
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| 09:17.47 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 09:17.56 | Adys | yes mistress? |
| 09:18.04 | Fisker | not today |
| 09:18.14 | Shirik | btw Xinhuan |
| 09:18.22 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 09:18.24 | Shirik | p = p is obviously not legal |
| 09:18.27 | Fisker | did you see the ubisoft or sony conference Adys ? |
| 09:18.30 | Shirik | it's supposed to be p = np |
| 09:18.36 | Adys | No |
| 09:18.51 | Xinhuan | i see what you did there |
| 09:18.56 | Fisker | Shirik what if you P = NP? |
| 09:19.02 | Shirik | then the world dies |
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| 09:21.06 | Adys | This article is about the Watergate informant. For the pornographic film, see Deep Throat (film). For other uses, see Deep Throat (disambiguation). |
| 09:21.23 | Adys | thats what you like to see when you read wikipedia |
| 09:21.31 | Adys | Fisker: whats so special about it? |
| 09:21.52 | Fisker | e3 conference? |
| 09:22.35 | Kalroth | Ubisoft presented their new DRM - each game will now come with an Ubisoft employee, that'll be watching over your shoulder all the time |
| 09:23.01 | Adys | Kalroth: that drm is easy to circumcise |
| 09:23.03 | Adys | I mean circumvent* |
| 09:23.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:24.02 | Kalroth | Sony tried to present some new products, but instead their powerpoint presentation consisted of lemon party, goatse and a drive-by from a 4chan troll in a ROFLcopter |
| 09:30.10 | Adys | am i the only one regularly getting slowdowns on wikipedia since the past few weeks? |
| 09:30.11 | Adys | Shirik: ^ |
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| 09:38.11 | Fisker | not really Adys |
| 09:38.32 | Fisker | if you circumvent it the employee will miss his scheduled checkin |
| 09:39.19 | mckenziemc | what if you circumsise it instead |
| 09:40.22 | Fisker | he will still function |
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| 09:52.44 | Adys | To those in london, you have maybe a couple more hours to buy tickets for Svengali going for next week: http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/06/svengali-london-begins-newcastle-royal-tickets-sale/ |
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| 10:11.02 | zenzio | "... an updated SDK with over 1,500 new APIs (...)" |
| 10:11.15 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 10:11.23 | zenzio | I don't know if it's correct or not, but counting each API call as "an API" sounds wrong to me |
| 10:11.26 | bluspacecow | what you reading ? |
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| 10:11.38 | zenzio | Apple sent me a "zomg download the iOS 5 beta SDK" mail |
| 10:11.45 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 10:14.34 | zenzio | http://notes-from-a-sticky-wicket.blogspot.com/2008/03/my-slow-email-movement.html |
| 10:18.21 | Fisker | k |
| 10:19.02 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 10:19.04 | Fisker | i need you |
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| 10:25.38 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 10:25.45 | mckenziemc | since when are arcane mages frost mages? |
| 10:26.50 | mckenziemc | a horde just said this arcane mage was a frost mage : / |
| 10:34.14 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 10:35.56 | mckenziemc | hey tauren paloladin |
| 10:36.12 | zenzio | "I met a guy who claimed to be orders of magnitude faster than the average programmer. He was a heavy copy-and-paster. He was extremely fast at creating unmaintainable code." |
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| 10:37.05 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 10:37.41 | Fisker | what would he be copy/pasting? |
| 10:37.53 | mckenziemc | pictures of naked women |
| 10:37.56 | Fisker | Unless it's like entire code segments he stole from google i can't see that being very much efficient |
| 10:50.09 | mckenziemc | "...NZIEMC\Firetree\Quinten\SavedVariables\Blizzard_ClientSavedVariables.lua:1: unexpected symbol" O.o |
| 10:50.43 | mckenziemc | hmm, wow crashed earlier, looks like it dumped a bunch of nuls into the file |
| 11:01.32 | Fisker | i know your wow account nae |
| 11:01.33 | Fisker | name |
| 11:01.49 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hi |
| 11:02.05 | Fisker | hey |
| 11:02.13 | mckenziemc | cool story Fisker |
| 11:02.18 | Fisker | thanks |
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| 11:11.52 | bluspacecow | no you only have part of it |
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| 11:24.00 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 11:24.05 | Fisker | you |
| 11:24.14 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
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| 11:35.14 | Torhal|work | pours lava on Fisker. |
| 11:47.17 | Fisker | Torhal|work |
| 11:47.19 | Fisker | bitch |
| 11:52.42 | Torhal|work | Fisker: You're not dead yet. |
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| 11:59.23 | Fisker | no Torhal|work i know |
| 11:59.27 | Fisker | i got diamond armor on |
| 12:03.18 | Adys | this is fucking boring |
| 12:03.27 | Adys | im on an alpha1 and i still dont have any issues |
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| 12:12.14 | airtonix | Cide |
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| 12:13.16 | zenzio | Adys: alpha of what? |
| 12:13.21 | Adys | ubuntu |
| 12:13.33 | Adys | i upgrade so i can spend all day working around horrible bugs |
| 12:13.39 | Adys | ive been on this stuff for a week and still nothing |
| 12:13.39 | Adys | =( |
| 12:13.50 | zenzio | heh |
| 12:17.08 | zenzio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_by_perkele -- funky name |
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| 12:25.54 | Cairenn | morning Lopeppeppy_ |
| 12:26.14 | Lopeppeppy_ | Why hello there, Cairenn. Congrats on the awesome new Rift space! |
| 12:26.22 | Cairenn | thanks :) |
| 12:31.37 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:33.34 | Jamash | sooooooooooooooooooo |
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| 12:33.51 | Jamash | my server's video card fan fried itself |
| 12:34.04 | Jamash | lesson: clean out dust from case more than once per decade |
| 12:34.31 | airtonix | i don't think you learned the real lesson |
| 12:34.36 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:34.43 | Jamash | do tell professor airtonix |
| 12:34.51 | Fisker | lesson: onboard graphics or graphics with passive heatsinks |
| 12:34.53 | zenzio | I had that happen to my Radeon 9700 Pro, but for reasons unknown. Thankfully I could RMA it and got a 9800 Pro replacement |
| 12:35.08 | zenzio | Jamash: perhaps he feels servers shouldn't have videocards |
| 12:35.11 | Jamash | yeah this card is ollllllllllllllllllld |
| 12:35.16 | airtonix | a. don't put it in a place where dust accumulates b. use negative ion generators c. graphics card on a server? LULZ |
| 12:35.30 | airtonix | goes back to being awesome |
| 12:35.59 | Jamash | a. it's a home server, my home has dust b. wut c. it's a repurposed desktop, thus has the hardware I already had for gaming |
| 12:36.05 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 12:36.13 | Jamash | mad like a fox |
| 12:36.39 | airtonix | i would have said batshitinsane |
| 12:36.51 | Jamash | ubatshitinsanebro? |
| 12:37.15 | airtonix | says the guy with a dusty server toting a graphics card |
| 12:37.21 | Jamash | not anymore! |
| 12:37.40 | Jamash | sadly now it fails POST |
| 12:37.58 | zenzio | "In COM and DCOM marshalled interfaces, called OBJREFs, always start with the byte sequence "MEOW" (4D 45 4F 57)" o_O |
| 12:38.13 | Jamash | 0xdeadbeef |
| 12:38.33 | zenzio | Jamash: that is sad; there's something to be said about the funkiness of seeing your videocard so cripple it even gives glitches all over the POST/BIOS screens |
| 12:38.39 | zenzio | +d |
| 12:39.07 | Jamash | it was actually getting to the bios screen OK |
| 12:39.15 | Jamash | but the smoke was somewhat worrisome |
| 12:39.39 | zenzio | my 9700 looked like it was on some sort of narcotic |
| 12:39.48 | Jamash | I'm tempted to put the heatsink back on and see if it'll run without the (broken, smoking) fan |
| 12:40.04 | Jamash | but I don't want to do anything that might damage the motherboard |
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| 12:43.16 | Lopeppeppy_ | Am I missing the part where you replaced the fan? |
| 12:43.21 | Jamash | no |
| 12:43.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | Seems like... that's your first step, nu? |
| 12:44.33 | Jamash | what I'm wondering is: if I don't stress the card at all (framebuffer terminal only, no 2D or 3D fancy graphisc), would just the heatsink be enough to keep it from overheating |
| 12:44.55 | airtonix | why would you need 3d graphics on a server? |
| 12:44.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | Magic Smoke 8 Ball predicts a whopping no. |
| 12:45.08 | Jamash | airtonix: I don't |
| 12:45.19 | airtonix | maybe you're using windows vista |
| 12:45.23 | airtonix | el oh el |
| 12:45.28 | airtonix | -_- |
| 12:45.30 | Jamash | ubuntu server 11.04 |
| 12:45.34 | Jamash | no X |
| 12:45.41 | airtonix | why would you bother with a card |
| 12:45.41 | Adys | Jamash: its possible you dont need a fan on a graphic card if you stick to ttys |
| 12:45.44 | Jamash | it runs headless 99% of the time |
| 12:45.57 | Jamash | airtonix: so it will pass POST |
| 12:45.58 | Adys | Jamash: I wouldn't recommend it though, as long as theres a monitor attached to it, the card is in use |
| 12:46.07 | airtonix | Jamash: i'll make you run headless |
| 12:46.07 | Adys | abd yg |
| 12:46.10 | Jamash | Adys: 99% of the time, no monitor |
| 12:46.15 | Adys | then its fine, but |
| 12:46.21 | Adys | wtf do you need it for POST |
| 12:46.32 | Adys | i'd fix that instead |
| 12:46.33 | Adys | why doesnt it pass? |
| 12:46.38 | Jamash | the motherboard goes BEEP BEEP BEEP if it has no video card |
| 12:46.55 | airtonix | adys puts his fingers in the com ports and configures the bios like that |
| 12:46.59 | Jamash | it's a consumer desktop motherboard, not meant for a server |
| 12:47.03 | Adys | Jamash: did you check bios settings? |
| 12:47.09 | Adys | there has to be some headless option somewhere |
| 12:47.11 | Jamash | if I could set BIOS parameters via serial terminal I'd do that |
| 12:47.22 | Jamash | buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I don't haaaaaaaaaaaave a videoooooooooooo carrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd |
| 12:47.36 | Adys | well doesnt life suck. |
| 12:47.39 | airtonix | no chicken bannana error |
| 12:47.48 | Adys | anyway, if theres nothing attached to it, yes it will be fine |
| 12:47.59 | Jamash | so, maybe plug in card, get to bios, set it to run headless, remove video card? |
| 12:48.15 | Adys | that would likely short out the mb and shut the comp down |
| 12:48.22 | Adys | er, misread |
| 12:48.23 | Jamash | I don't mean while it's running |
| 12:48.32 | airtonix | then udbemadbro |
| 12:48.33 | Adys | but yes, thats what i meant |
| 12:48.42 | Jamash | tempting |
| 12:49.05 | Adys | Jamash: id recommend getting the mb model and googling how to set it to headless |
| 12:49.25 | Jamash | oh I know where the option is, I just can't get to it without a video card, chicken and egg problem |
| 12:50.04 | Jamash | there's an option for init display = agp/pci/none |
| 12:50.06 | Adys | then plug the vcard in :P |
| 12:50.38 | Jamash | I'm skeered >.> |
| 12:50.59 | Jamash | I see the video card bursting into flames and burning down the house (or at least damaging the mboard) |
| 12:51.12 | airtonix | excellent |
| 12:51.56 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:52.46 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 12:52.55 | Fisker | did you try a graphics card with a passive heatsink? |
| 12:52.57 | Lopeppeppy_ | Good morning, Fisker! I needed some lox for my bagel, thank you. |
| 12:52.59 | Fisker | or onboard graphics? |
| 12:53.10 | Jamash | Fisker: my budget for this is $0 |
| 12:54.25 | Fisker | sounds like a shitty budget for a server |
| 12:54.38 | Fisker | you should file for a budget increase |
| 12:54.43 | Jamash | Thank you Senator, your opinion has been duly noted. |
| 12:55.32 | Fisker | i'm no slick innercity senator Jamash |
| 12:59.16 | Jamash | are you a down home country good old boy senator who brings home the bacon to his state via earmarks and cheese subsidies? |
| 13:01.29 | bleeter | did someone say bacon? |
| 13:01.34 | airtonix | no |
| 13:01.41 | bleeter | ah, ok then |
| 13:01.44 | Fisker | i said naked bacon |
| 13:01.47 | airtonix | no |
| 13:02.05 | bleeter | FISKER: |
| 13:02.21 | Fisker | i did |
| 13:02.23 | Fisker | bleeter |
| 13:04.21 | Jamash | these are the stories of the naked city |
| 13:06.11 | Jamash | awoken at 6am by a car alarm, the city forgot to put on its pants before opening the front blinds |
| 13:06.20 | Fisker | naked bacon |
| 13:06.27 | Jamash | baked nacon |
| 13:06.46 | Fisker | jerk |
| 13:07.04 | Jamash | ~likeaboss |
| 13:07.05 | purl | LIKE A BOSS http://instantboss.org/ |
| 13:15.55 | Fisker | damn you apple |
| 13:16.08 | Fisker | you introduced a neat feature that android doesn't already have |
| 13:16.15 | Fisker | they probably patented it too |
| 13:17.05 | airtonix | wut |
| 13:17.12 | airtonix | a touchscreen? |
| 13:17.23 | Fisker | apple was late on that |
| 13:17.28 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 13:17.33 | airtonix | is it a right click then ? |
| 13:17.38 | Fisker | but you can use the volume button for opening the camera on the lockscreen |
| 13:17.48 | airtonix | pff i can already do that |
| 13:17.49 | Fisker | Windows Mobile did that airtonix |
| 13:18.09 | Jamash | I want middle click on my phone |
| 13:18.19 | Fisker | we all can |
| 13:18.25 | airtonix | nou |
| 13:18.27 | Fisker | well exept people with amputated arms/fingers |
| 13:19.48 | Fisker | btw airtonix |
| 13:20.05 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/0SveS.png |
| 13:20.10 | Fisker | amirite or what? |
| 13:20.17 | airtonix | i still haven't found an iphone app for qrcode scanning that lets you share you address book entries as a qrcode |
| 13:20.56 | airtonix | apparently nothing integrates with the addressbook on the ipone? |
| 13:23.02 | airtonix | steve jobs: "lawl why would you want to share an addressbook entry for free when you can sell it as an app on the appstore?" |
| 13:23.10 | zenzio | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Divine-by-Zero.aspx |
| 13:24.01 | foxlit | airtonix: lawl why would you need an app when you can share contacts by default? |
| 13:24.11 | airtonix | show me |
| 13:24.26 | foxlit | click contact. |
| 13:24.29 | foxlit | click "share contact" |
| 13:24.31 | airtonix | make it share an addressbook entry as a vcard encoded into a qrcode |
| 13:25.46 | airtonix | does iphone have google goggles ? |
| 13:25.49 | bleeter | jobs hates qrcodes coz he can't patent it and hasn't worked out how yet to fully embrace and extend it |
| 13:26.13 | zenzio | WWDC12: Jobs announces iCodes |
| 13:26.32 | airtonix | i think i tried about 5 barcode scanners on a iphone, none of them would let me share a contact as a qrcode |
| 13:27.07 | airtonix | maybe you're not allowed to add features to the addressbook as a non apple iOS app developer |
| 13:27.16 | zenzio | I'm not necessarily surprised if they called themselves "scanners", rather than "encoders" |
| 13:27.21 | airtonix | well |
| 13:27.27 | Lopeppeppy_ | I have yet to find a QR reader that actually works, for my iphone. |
| 13:27.34 | airtonix | every single barcode scanner i have on my android lets me do this |
| 13:27.35 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy_: which model? |
| 13:27.39 | Lopeppeppy_ | 4 |
| 13:27.56 | bleeter | my clapped out old nokia can do this, too |
| 13:28.11 | airtonix | steve jobs hates freedom |
| 13:28.16 | zenzio | hm, I have heard that the iPhones can be troublesome with QR codes, but thought it was mostly the 3G(+s) series |
| 13:28.19 | Lopeppeppy_ | Know what, I'm-a try to fix my tail. BRB. |
| 13:28.36 | zenzio | ... her tail? |
| 13:28.45 | krka | i did not know lopeppeppy was a furry |
| 13:28.58 | airtonix | http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/05/google-goggles-reaches-the-app-store-only-supported-on-iphone-3/ |
| 13:29.05 | airtonix | buwahaha |
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| 13:29.23 | airtonix | i mean, |
| 13:29.24 | bleeter | wb Lopeppeppy |
| 13:29.27 | airtonix | how unfortunate |
| 13:29.34 | zenzio | oh, the tail on the nick |
| 13:29.40 | zenzio | that's anti-climatic, sort of |
| 13:30.04 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, I would never attempt to chop off one of my kitsune tails. I've EARNED those. |
| 13:30.19 | bleeter | should've /msg nickserv ghost to fix that nick problem ;) |
| 13:30.40 | zenzio | you can't ghost someone that's not online |
| 13:30.43 | bleeter | oh wait |
| 13:30.44 | bleeter | no |
| 13:30.47 | bleeter | that's the booze talking |
| 13:31.27 | Fisker | hey bleeter |
| 13:32.42 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: maybe you should try google goggles |
| 13:32.55 | Lopeppeppy | I already wear glasses, it's hard to wear anything over those. |
| 13:33.01 | airtonix | ho ho |
| 13:33.05 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes the theater 3D glasses are okay, but not goggles. |
| 13:34.01 | airtonix | hoho Fisker |
| 13:34.23 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/06/ios-notifications-sidebyside.jpg |
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| 13:38.37 | Fisker | airtonix please |
| 13:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Was today the day we were being sane? |
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| 13:40.08 | Fisker | oh how i lold |
| 13:40.49 | zenzio | http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/79aea765-c064-4085-84a5-8124a8c90a79.jpg - heh |
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| 13:56.42 | industrial | sylvanaar_work: With IntelliJ IDEA, I created a file with type text and now I want it to be Lua because there's no syntax highlighting etc on it. I can't find how :(. It persists if I remove and add the file, so the only option I see now is to delete the project (since I dont put that in version control) |
| 13:57.05 | industrial | Do you put IDEA file in git? |
| 13:57.14 | industrial | (it would've fixed this problem..) |
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| 14:16.29 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pkKNPEU8oc |
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| 14:23.30 | Kraps | Emma is way too intelligent for an 8 year old, she might be from a lab |
| 14:23.38 | Kraps | "p |
| 14:23.41 | Kraps | :p |
| 14:26.16 | Lopeppeppy | Kids are tons smarter than adults ever give them credit for. |
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| 14:28.10 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/fortune-telling/ |
| 14:30.25 | airtonix | why would you put your child in a lab ? |
| 14:30.48 | airtonix | rings up the international ChildEnforcementBlackBagGaffleVanAgency |
| 14:30.49 | Kraps | for science! |
| 14:31.09 | airtonix | "Sir, I do believe Kraps is attempting to Science" |
| 14:31.11 | Lopeppeppy | We do what we must, because we can. |
| 14:31.37 | airtonix | "DEAR GOD MAN!!!!11111pony Why didn't you stop him!!?!?!" |
| 14:32.54 | airtonix | Fisker: time to leave the peasants in your care. |
| 14:33.09 | Fisker | no |
| 14:33.10 | Kraps | or http://kotaku.com/5809388/kinect-gets-exclusive-cheerleader-game |
| 14:33.11 | Jamash | burninating the countryside, burninating the peasants |
| 14:33.45 | Jamash | TROGDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR |
| 14:41.37 | Fisker | what about fapping game Kraps ? |
| 14:42.05 | Fisker | they announced finger tracking after all |
| 14:43.39 | Kraps | oh now i get this umad guy http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ht099/heres_a_finger_you_can_track_microsoft/ |
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| 14:49.20 | airtonix | why do government websites insist on onRightClick = function(){ alert("umadbro?"); return false;} |
| 14:50.00 | Xinhuan | to prevent you from accessing the right click menu |
| 14:50.06 | Fisker | security |
| 14:50.11 | airtonix | lol? |
| 14:50.15 | Fisker | giggles |
| 14:50.29 | Xinhuan | its a mionor security thing to people who don't actually know about "menu bar ----> view source |
| 14:50.31 | airtonix | is internet explorer that unsecure? |
| 14:50.55 | airtonix | ZOMG NOT THE SOURCE |
| 14:51.06 | airtonix | i'm loosing my internets |
| 14:51.13 | airtonix | eets loose |
| 14:51.50 | Xinhuan | but that IS a reason :P |
| 14:51.50 | airtonix | Fisker: comment? |
| 14:52.02 | Fisker | comment what? |
| 14:52.10 | airtonix | Xinhuan: it's a pretty stupid reason though |
| 14:52.23 | Xinhuan | yes, but the only semi-valid one |
| 14:53.03 | Xinhuan | there's no other real reason why people would code a popup on right click other than to annoy you |
| 14:53.53 | Fisker | but it's not secure though |
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| 14:54.04 | Xinhuan | never said its secure |
| 14:54.25 | Xinhuan | just like checking for movie tickets at the door isn't secure |
| 14:54.55 | Fisker | correct analogy would be putting up a dummy to check for movie tickets |
| 14:55.24 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/179528/world-ipv6-day |
| 14:55.40 | Adys | Neat |
| 14:55.48 | Adys | didnt think blizzard would participate |
| 14:56.07 | Fisker | didn't even know 4.1 had all of the ipv6 options and stuff in it |
| 14:56.09 | Fisker | but it did :o |
| 14:56.23 | Fisker | anyway cisco/linksys are a bunch of dicks |
| 14:56.30 | Xinhuan | why wouldn't they? an internet-based game company should be concerned with supporting its large 20+ million user base |
| 14:56.40 | Fisker | they patched out ipv6 support in the latest firmware so they could release a new router we can pay BILLIONS FOR |
| 14:56.56 | Fisker | 11* Xinhuan |
| 14:57.03 | Xinhuan | its more than 11 |
| 14:57.10 | Fisker | It's only for WoW |
| 14:57.10 | Xinhuan | because i'm including starcraft, sc2, warcraft, etc |
| 14:57.12 | Adys | blizzard has probably 30+ million players |
| 14:57.18 | Fisker | and even then it's only a couple of realms |
| 14:57.27 | Fisker | so it's even less than 2 million |
| 14:57.29 | Xinhuan | i didn't say the figure is for wow players |
| 14:57.38 | Fisker | no but thats what they're testing for |
| 14:57.42 | Fisker | no test for sc2 |
| 14:57.45 | Fisker | no test for warcraft |
| 14:57.47 | Fisker | no test for diablo |
| 14:57.47 | Xinhuan | "an internet-based game company" with a "large 20+ million user base" |
| 14:57.50 | Fisker | = IRRELEPHANT |
| 14:57.51 | Adys | Xinhuan: and i didnt specifically think they wouldn't; I'm happily surprised they do, thats all |
| 14:57.52 | airtonix | no test for fisker |
| 14:57.57 | Fisker | yes airtonix |
| 14:57.59 | Fisker | no test for me |
| 14:58.01 | airtonix | NO |
| 14:58.05 | airtonix | OUTRAGE |
| 14:58.07 | Adys | its hard enough getting ISPs to participate |
| 14:58.10 | Adys | so yeah |
| 14:58.22 | airtonix | I DEMAND INTERNET |
| 14:59.49 | Fisker | The last thing my ISP ever said about IPv6 was that it was "A thing Microsoft put in Windows Vista and didn't matter for internet access" |
| 14:59.50 | Fisker | so yeah |
| 15:00.18 | nevcairiel | smart people working there |
| 15:00.20 | airtonix | lolurispisretarded |
| 15:01.01 | Xinhuan | i would unsubscribe from that ISP immediately if i heard that |
| 15:01.41 | Adys | kd3: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-275.09.04.run is out, fixes a few linux compositing crashes |
| 15:01.42 | foxlit | won't get you any closer to ipv6, though |
| 15:01.48 | foxlit | it kind of doesn't exist in Fiskerland. |
| 15:02.11 | airtonix | because "it's something microsoft put in windows vista" |
| 15:02.55 | Adys | Jens Braeuer... where the hell have i heard this name before |
| 15:03.15 | Fisker | to be fair airtonix that response is like 2 years old |
| 15:03.22 | Fisker | or more maybe |
| 15:03.26 | Fisker | can't recall when i read it |
| 15:17.43 | Adys | New white collar season today \o/ |
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| 15:22.40 | zenzelezz | there's never a season for white collars |
| 15:23.21 | Moolgar_ | hey guys. im little new to lua, just wondering - is it possible to make a addon for wargame's so everyone that have the addon , can que up against each other ? or its not possible that addons "comunicate between" each other . little hard to explane :S |
| 15:23.41 | nicoli_s | Moolgar_:it all depends on trions implementation |
| 15:24.16 | Moolgar_ | trions implentment. not quite sure what that is, but i'll try read up on it, thx |
| 15:25.06 | foxlit | wait, wow or rift? |
| 15:25.12 | Moolgar_ | wow |
| 15:25.18 | foxlit | nicoli_s may have been rift'ing too much lately. |
| 15:25.24 | Moolgar_ | hehe, i see |
| 15:25.34 | nicoli_s | whoops |
| 15:25.36 | nicoli_s | wrong channel |
| 15:25.43 | Moolgar_ | haha, okey |
| 15:25.54 | Kraps | s/he said wargames! |
| 15:25.57 | foxlit | nicoli_s: off to #riftuidev, where the sun does not shine! |
| 15:26.08 | nicoli_s | or does it shine brighter? |
| 15:26.08 | foxlit | Wow has wargames, though |
| 15:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | Addons have a channel through which they communicate, but I don't think you can force anything to do with the battleground queue. |
| 15:26.31 | foxlit | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1597874 |
| 15:26.43 | foxlit | The short answer is that you don't need an addon. |
| 15:26.50 | Moolgar_ | yeh. wow have wargame foxlit. |
| 15:27.00 | Moolgar_ | well, look at the senario : |
| 15:27.14 | Moolgar_ | atm, u can que skirmish arena (wargame) , BUT |
| 15:27.19 | Moolgar_ | u have to find 4 ppl for it |
| 15:27.22 | Moolgar_ | 2 partys |
| 15:27.41 | Moolgar_ | so what i want, is a addon, that u can go 2 persona, and u ur self up to a "list" channel" |
| 15:28.09 | Moolgar_ | so everyone that wanna "skrimsh" dont need find 4 ppl, but just 2 |
| 15:28.46 | foxlit | The approximate equivalent of "/2 YOUR MOM SMELLS OF ELDERBERRIES, come fight us in the arena?" |
| 15:28.48 | Moolgar_ | atm, u also have to do /command to que it, so lot of ppl dont evenknow it exist |
| 15:29.01 | Moolgar_ | hahahaha |
| 15:29.05 | Moolgar_ | yeh |
| 15:29.29 | foxlit | Well, you could do that if you wanted to. |
| 15:29.41 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 15:29.55 | foxlit | The problem is that your addon won't be any less obscure than the slash command, and you'd still have to get people on your server to use it :) |
| 15:30.23 | Moolgar_ | that is true tho |
| 15:31.17 | Moolgar_ | but, i can make the adoon comunicate between the other addons by "chat channel" ? is theere a api that can list all names in channel or something ? |
| 15:31.44 | foxlit | Yes; what you're describing is entirely possible. |
| 15:32.06 | Moolgar_ | okey, awesome, thx a lot :) then i have little mission :D |
| 15:32.35 | Kraps | foxlit: blizzard ripping of other games again!!!!! |
| 15:32.47 | karl_w_w | you need to be in targetting range to challenge, don't you? |
| 15:32.56 | Moolgar_ | no karl |
| 15:33.08 | Moolgar_ | its just /wg EnemyPartyLEadersName |
| 15:33.12 | Moolgar_ | no range require |
| 15:33.30 | foxlit | People should totally abuse the feature to trial recruits |
| 15:33.59 | Moolgar_ | its nice feat indeed, specially for guilds that want smal turnements |
| 15:34.00 | foxlit | Getting a new healer? Queue them up against a fraction of your DPS spamming nukes at the tank. |
| 15:34.16 | Moolgar_ | hehehe |
| 15:34.30 | Moolgar_ | u done to much pve foxit |
| 15:34.35 | Lopeppeppy | It's a way to test the output numbers, at least. |
| 15:34.44 | Moolgar_ | ;P |
| 15:34.54 | foxlit | wow has pvp? |
| 15:35.02 | Moolgar_ | u have target dummy for that, sigh |
| 15:35.22 | foxlit | the target dummy does nothing for healers. |
| 15:35.41 | Moolgar_ | yeh, foxit, actuallly they do ;P i guess that something rift misses ;P ? |
| 15:35.59 | Moolgar_ | ah, yeh, thats actually true ;P |
| 15:36.04 | Lopeppeppy | I suppose I could heal it forever... but that doesn't show my ability to plan ahead to keep a tank alive, my ability to think on my feet, use all of my skills under pressure, etc. |
| 15:36.07 | Moolgar_ | bah, lot of smilys here now |
| 15:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | LIVE FIRE! Rawr. |
| 15:36.23 | alestane | cogwheel: The first instructive post to my new programming blog is up now: http://playsmith.net/deblugger |
| 15:36.30 | Moolgar_ | ha, very true poppy |
| 15:36.50 | foxlit | "Zip." |
| 15:37.19 | foxlit | I was thinking "What does ZIP have to do with anything?" |
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| 15:37.27 | Moolgar_ | LOL |
| 15:37.40 | Lopeppeppy | Add to "why people hesitate" - "too harsh critique of a first project" "elite attitudes among the "perfect coders", etc. |
| 15:37.52 | Lopeppeppy | I could write a book on why I never learned to write an addon for myownself. :P |
| 15:38.19 | Moolgar_ | hahahaha |
| 15:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | Anywho, many are my appointments this afternoon. TTFN, everyone. |
| 15:39.32 | cogwheel | alestane: cool. i added you to my google readyer yesterday |
| 15:40.07 | Kraps | readyer |
| 15:40.21 | Kraps | it readys things |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 15:43.35 | Cide | wassup bromos |
| 15:44.00 | cogwheel | Fisker: why did you take the realms down?? |
| 15:44.50 | Fisker | because cogwheel |
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| 15:44.57 | Fisker | you're not on my whitelist |
| 15:45.22 | Adys | http://www.w3.org/2011/05/css-pr.html.en |
| 15:45.31 | Adys | More than 9000 CSS tests have made it easier for designers to create style sheets that work across browsers, and across devices. |
| 15:45.38 | Adys | eye-twitches |
| 15:46.01 | Adys | In other news, CSS2.1 is now REC. |
| 15:46.22 | Adys | just when you thought css3 was getting tardy |
| 15:47.16 | zenzelezz | please tell me REC doesn't mean recommended? |
| 15:47.20 | Adys | it does |
| 15:47.57 | Adys | kind of in the same way that "stable" means "doesn't have bugs" in debian. |
| 15:48.07 | nevcairiel | do browsers even support CSS3 fully? |
| 15:48.14 | Fisker | no |
| 15:48.23 | Fisker | maybe opera |
| 15:48.26 | nevcairiel | I always run across -moz extensions and such |
| 15:48.28 | Adys | no, css3 is still heavily under dev |
| 15:48.28 | Fisker | because they're trying too hard LOL |
| 15:48.36 | Fisker | isn't that right haste ? |
| 15:48.50 | Adys | no browser supports css3 fully because css3 is constantly changing right now |
| 15:49.24 | Adys | perhaps following in 2.1's footsteps, it'll become REC by 2019 |
| 15:49.37 | nevcairiel | If its not even "done" |
| 15:49.59 | Adys | well, css2.1 was under dev around 8 years ago |
| 15:50.04 | Adys | so seems about correct |
| 15:50.35 | Adys | CSS 2.1 first became a Candidate Recommendation, but it was reverted to a Working Draft on June 13, 2005 for further review. It was returned to Candidate Recommendation status on 19 July 2007 and was updated twice in 2009. However, since changes and clarifications were made to the prose it went back to Last Call Working Draft on 7 December 2010. Later it went into Proposed Recommendation on 12 April 2011 |
| 15:50.38 | Adys | jesus |
| 15:51.15 | nevcairiel | bureaucracy of the w3, must be fun working there. :p |
| 15:51.22 | cogwheel | i prefer whatwg's approach |
| 15:51.25 | zenzelezz | they should do with CSS like with C++; CSS 1x |
| 15:51.53 | cogwheel | evolve the standard alongside implementations |
| 15:52.03 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 15:52.07 | nevcairiel | that sounds like it ends in a total mess |
| 15:52.29 | cogwheel | which is different than earlier standards, how? |
| 15:52.30 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:52.36 | zenzelezz | it's tough to define standards with all the development going on in browsers, but I'd much prefer if they just said "this is it" |
| 15:52.50 | foxlit | You could whine at microsoft for not implementing CSS |
| 15:53.02 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: you mean like MS defined HTML as that thing that IE6 can render? |
| 15:53.03 | nevcairiel | Right! |
| 15:53.05 | foxlit | You would not be able to do so with a straight face if CSS was constantly changing under their feet. |
| 15:53.19 | cogwheel | http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What_does_.22Living_Standard.22_mean.3F |
| 15:53.33 | cogwheel | et seq |
| 15:54.03 | foxlit | cogwheel: in summary, "BUT TRUST US WE WON'T DO THE BAD STUFF" |
| 15:54.11 | nevcairiel | A living standard is fine, as long as you start with a real standard that actually designed, and not grown |
| 15:54.13 | cogwheel | no... |
| 15:54.29 | cogwheel | (@foxlit) |
| 15:54.29 | Adys | nevcairiel is right |
| 15:54.36 | Adys | ah |
| 15:55.04 | cogwheel | well, maybe in other sections |
| 15:55.20 | cogwheel | i was specificallly referring to the discussion on living standard |
| 15:56.02 | zenzelezz | I don't have trouble understanding people who like things like living standards; but I am not one of them |
| 15:56.17 | cogwheel | (and just so there's no confusion, i agree with nevcairiel's statement :P ) |
| 15:56.21 | zenzelezz | I want a spec that I can shove in a client's face and say "see, it doesn't allow what you want" |
| 15:56.51 | nevcairiel | You just want to be lazy and hide behind a spec |
| 15:56.52 | cogwheel | depends on the context imo |
| 15:57.03 | Adys | Chris Wilson of Microsoft was invited [to WHATWG] but did not join, citing the lack of a patent policy to ensure all specifications can be implemented on a royalty-free basis. |
| 15:57.05 | cogwheel | different tools for different jobs |
| 15:57.07 | Adys | the world isnt round anymore |
| 15:57.10 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I am lazy, but that's not the reason for my opinion here |
| 15:57.16 | zenzelezz | I like rules |
| 15:57.21 | nevcairiel | Although its a handy excuse when the customer requests something incredibly stupid. :p |
| 15:58.06 | zenzelezz | I'm an idealist, the only problem is my ideals are different from the vast majority's |
| 15:59.11 | Adys | nevcairiel: what is? |
| 15:59.17 | Adys | a spec? |
| 15:59.35 | Adys | how does a spec help when you're faced with a dumbass? :P |
| 16:00.18 | Kraps | so... does a banana get thicker as it gets riper? |
| 16:00.20 | industrial | sylvanaar_work: ping |
| 16:00.59 | Adys | Kraps: No it doesn't |
| 16:01.02 | Adys | why would you ask that? |
| 16:01.07 | mckenziemc | if its mass remains constant and its density decreases |
| 16:01.21 | mckenziemc | err |
| 16:01.24 | Adys | its mass doesn't remain constant. |
| 16:01.39 | Kraps | Adys: it kinda seems that way to me but maybe i'm wrong |
| 16:01.40 | Adys | when fruit ripes it loses some of its content |
| 16:01.58 | foxlit | when fruit ripes it evaporates. |
| 16:02.00 | Adys | i dont think that's worded correctly |
| 16:02.01 | foxlit | </awesome> |
| 16:02.50 | cogwheel | it'll lose moisture, but if there's any fermentation going on it may increase in gas content |
| 16:02.53 | cogwheel | and swell |
| 16:02.57 | foxlit | And the verb is probably ripens, not ripes. |
| 16:03.02 | cogwheel | but i've never really seen that happen to bananas |
| 16:03.06 | Adys | yeah, that |
| 16:06.14 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:06.20 | Fisker | i farted |
| 16:06.26 | Hjalte | http://e3.nintendo.com/ |
| 16:06.28 | cogwheel | did you put it in a jar? |
| 16:06.31 | Hjalte | Just started live streaming |
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| 16:07.03 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 16:07.05 | Fisker | only got a can |
| 16:07.29 | cogwheel | Canned Cut Cheese |
| 16:07.44 | cogwheel | now there's a product idea! |
| 16:07.53 | cogwheel | patents |
| 16:07.58 | Fisker | nooooooo |
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| 16:09.39 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:09.52 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 16:10.01 | cogwheel | day from hell #15? |
| 16:10.29 | Fisker | herro |
| 16:10.31 | Fisker | HERROOOOOOO |
| 16:10.42 | Fisker | Chriken and cow? |
| 16:11.03 | Adys | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/cwilso/archive/2007/01/10/you-me-and-the-w3c-aka-reinventing-html.aspx |
| 16:11.05 | karl_w_w | should I watch road to perdition, 127 hours, the descent, zodiac, the imaginarium of dr parnassus, rounders, or dark city? |
| 16:11.11 | Adys | that blog post makes me want to throw up in multiple directions |
| 16:11.31 | Fisker | would your puke take a shit then? |
| 16:11.43 | foxlit | http://www.pacman-vs-ghosts.net/ |
| 16:12.36 | Fisker | do not want. |
| 16:12.40 | Fisker | stupid nintendo |
| 16:15.26 | Lunessa | karl_w_w: I haven't seen "127 Hours" or "The Descent" but the others are entertaining. |
| 16:17.56 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 16:17.59 | Dagmar | Vanishing on 7th Steet and Monsters (Beware) are too be avoided. |
| 16:18.22 | Dagmar | They follow that new, cool methodology of ruining the world and leaving it that way |
| 16:19.33 | TC-Laptop | it would be nice if memtest could tell you which physical sticks of ram are bad. |
| 16:20.09 | Dagmar | That requires a crapload of detail |
| 16:20.24 | Dagmar | ...and an eeprom on the stick by a manufacturer that gives a damn |
| 16:20.41 | TC-Laptop | i have 5 sticks of ram and 427 errors |
| 16:20.47 | TC-Laptop | this is going to take a while |
| 16:21.01 | Dagmar | Five sticks? Surely in more than one machine... |
| 16:21.41 | TC-Laptop | it's a 6 slot board, but one slot is bad, so 5 it is |
| 16:22.06 | Dagmar | Oof. Probably hurts memory performance a bit, but as long as the machine still works |
| 16:22.29 | TC-Laptop | until now it worked great. |
| 16:22.31 | Dagmar | I hope for your sake the failures come up quickly |
| 16:22.43 | Dagmar | If not, binary searching the sticks around will be time-consuming |
| 16:22.57 | karl_w_w | worked great, until you coincidentally managed to get 427 errors? :P |
| 16:23.09 | Dagmar | Well, it's memtest |
| 16:23.14 | Dagmar | It doesn't stop at just one error |
| 16:23.24 | Fisker | hey Dagmar |
| 16:23.27 | Fisker | i want to give you 5 sticks |
| 16:24.14 | mckenziemc | this is new and exciting |
| 16:24.19 | Dagmar | Memtest will just keep pounding hte same set of failing cells regardless of previous failure until it gets done doing all it's tests |
| 16:24.31 | Dagmar | Makes it _real_ fun to try to scroll back to figure out which regions are bad |
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| 16:26.10 | Dagmar | BTW, Monsters (Beware) is especially a crapfest because they do the cute "teaser" thing and show the last three minutes of the storyline at the very beginning of the movie--you just don't know who those people are yet. |
| 16:26.42 | TC-Laptop | well, i am rather disturbed by the fact that it's saying it found errors higher than the amount of memory i have . |
| 16:26.58 | Dagmar | I suppose the idea was to cut costs by having the people able to figure out that the ending is depressing able to stop the DVD early and save electricity, thereby postponing global warming. |
| 16:27.09 | Dagmar | TC-Laptop: What? |
| 16:27.17 | Dagmar | You have fewer than 427 RAMS? |
| 16:27.48 | TC-Laptop | it shows the failing address and the MB bracket, and it's showing 11644.8MB |
| 16:28.01 | TC-Laptop | i only have 10GB |
| 16:28.25 | Dagmar | I blame english majors. |
| 16:29.15 | Dagmar | Of course, it *might* be the memory controller fucking up and deciding you actually DO have two 2Gb sticks in the last two slots. |
| 16:29.32 | Dagmar | Cut it down to just the two working pairs of slots and try again |
| 16:29.36 | mckenziemc | lua> 2^30 * 10 |
| 16:29.36 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: 10737418240 |
| 16:29.46 | mckenziemc | hmm |
| 16:29.57 | mckenziemc | you sure it's bytes not bits? |
| 16:30.11 | TC-Laptop | capital M's |
| 16:30.18 | TC-Laptop | and B's |
| 16:30.46 | Dagmar | Nothing represents RAM by bits. |
| 16:31.07 | mckenziemc | not usually |
| 16:31.23 | Dagmar | ...at least, nothing made by sane people. It's always wither 8 bits to a byte, or parity/ecc bits you can't directly see for anything and everything x86ish |
| 16:32.35 | Dagmar | At any rate, if the memory controller is trying to dual-channel a pair of slots where one's empty... that could explain a lot. |
| 16:32.46 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: dark city is a classic |
| 16:32.51 | cogwheel | Fisker: gimme mah realm! |
| 16:32.53 | Dagmar | The only thing that would really suprise me about that is that the machine didn't just spontaneously reboot from even trying that |
| 16:33.00 | mckenziemc | wouldn't he be seeing a lot more than 427 errors |
| 16:33.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Dark City is also not supremely depressing, which is good |
| 16:33.31 | TC-Laptop | http://images.thunder-child.net/2011-06-07_09-29-59_436.jpg |
| 16:34.26 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: Just a theory. God only knows how any given memory controller tries to distribute load nowadays |
| 16:35.19 | Dagmar | Lol if it's really working in triple channel configuration like the screen shows I'd be shocked |
| 16:35.39 | Dagmar | I've never trusted it to report/detect that stuff very accurately |
| 16:35.41 | TC-Laptop | 3 out of the 5 are |
| 16:35.44 | jnwhiteh | the US government sent me money back, and its surprisingly difficulty figuring out precisely *why* =) |
| 16:36.05 | Dagmar | TC-Laptop: Last I checked one memory controller can't operate half the chips in one config and the other half in a different way |
| 16:36.58 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: California sent me a check for just over $2 once, because they found an error on my tax return >< |
| 16:37.14 | mckenziemc | ... |
| 16:37.20 | Corrodias | that is quite a list of memory errors |
| 16:39.00 | Dagmar | Enough to think that the next step would be to strip the board down to as few sticks as possible and run it again |
| 16:39.28 | Dagmar | The controller itself might be failing |
| 16:39.56 | Dagmar | the number doesn't alarm me so much as that they're all over memory space |
| 16:41.49 | foxlit | I had that issue :( |
| 16:42.16 | foxlit | Dagmar: see if it whines at the sticks if you insert only one or two at a time |
| 16:42.38 | Dagmar | foxlit: Not my hardware, but that's the general thing I had in mind as well |
| 16:42.56 | foxlit | I eventually solved it by reducing the RAM frequency :( |
| 16:43.15 | foxlit | Which is kind of meh, but beat replacing the motherboard/ram. |
| 16:44.23 | cogwheel | Fisker: REEEAAALLMMMMSSSSSS |
| 16:44.26 | cogwheel | WTB |
| 16:45.36 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:45.43 | Fisker | maybe i'll whitelist you in a couple of hours |
| 16:46.26 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: =) |
| 16:46.31 | jnwhiteh | this was the 'Making Work Pay' credit |
| 16:46.45 | jnwhiteh | which, if you didn't file a schedule M this year, you likely got as well |
| 16:46.55 | jnwhiteh | so I reclaimed $241.30 of my Curse money |
| 16:46.57 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:47.25 | cogwheel | yeah i'm pretty sure i did get that |
| 16:47.32 | jnwhiteh | it was $400 max |
| 16:47.37 | cogwheel | but i didn't actually get a refund because i owed back taxes -_- |
| 16:47.44 | jnwhiteh | ah boo |
| 16:48.03 | alestane | So, I san't quite get what this error message is trying to tell me: |
| 16:48.08 | alestane | stl_list.h: notice: Semantic Issue: Candidate template ignored: deduced conflicting types for parameter '_InputIterator' ('std::istream_iterator<int, char, std::char_traits<char>, int>' vs. 'std::istream_iterator<int, char, std::char_traits<char>, int> (*)()') |
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| 16:49.17 | alestane | Does that mean that it either got or expected a function that would return an iterator, rather than the iterator itself? |
| 16:49.34 | mckenziemc | what does the (*)() on the end mean |
| 16:49.37 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDaayQj-vq8 |
| 16:49.41 | cogwheel | what does the instantiation site look like? |
| 16:49.43 | alestane | That's what I'm trying to pin down. |
| 16:49.45 | mckenziemc | been too long since i've touched C++ |
| 16:50.07 | cogwheel | also Shirik ^ |
| 16:50.35 | alestane | istream_iterator<int> numbersFromUserInput(cin), endOfInput(); |
| 16:50.36 | alestane | cout << average(list<int>(numbersFromUserInput, endOfInput)); |
| 16:51.21 | cogwheel | try adding typename to the beginning of the first line |
| 16:51.35 | cogwheel | typename istream_iterator<int> numbersFromUserInput ... |
| 16:51.49 | mckenziemc | come to think of it TC-Laptop, i think i saw that same issue of the Failing Address exceeding the amount of installed memory before |
| 16:51.59 | mckenziemc | on a system that was fine after i took out the bad ram module |
| 16:52.03 | cogwheel | it's probably seeing: istream_iterator<int> numbersFromUserInput(cin) |
| 16:52.07 | cogwheel | as a function definition |
| 16:52.18 | cogwheel | declaration* |
| 16:52.42 | alestane | If I read it right, the "type (*)()" means "a function with no arguments that returns a 'type'. |
| 16:52.55 | alestane | Hm, it could be. |
| 16:52.57 | cogwheel | a pointer to a function that returns a type |
| 16:53.07 | cogwheel | since numbersFromUserInput is an existing function |
| 16:53.19 | cogwheel | or something like that... |
| 16:53.31 | cogwheel | http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=767929 |
| 16:54.10 | alestane | Adding typename tields "expected a qualified name after typename" |
| 16:54.33 | cogwheel | that's weird |
| 16:55.20 | cogwheel | i assume you've got using namespace std; or using std::istream_iterator? |
| 16:55.38 | alestane | using namespace std. |
| 16:56.39 | alestane | THe example code in the textbook I'm looking at using the same idiom. |
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| 16:56.58 | alestane | istream_iterator<int> int_itr(cin); |
| 16:57.38 | alestane | copy(int_itr, istream_iterator<int>(), v.begin()); |
| 16:57.41 | alestane | In his case. |
| 16:58.17 | cogwheel | try putting the two declarations on separate lines |
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| 16:58.27 | cogwheel | (some people consider that a best practice regardless) |
| 16:59.39 | alestane | That by itself doesn't fix things. But I'm trying changing it to |
| 16:59.42 | alestane | istream_iterator<int> numbersFromUserInput = istream_iterator<int>(cin); |
| 16:59.50 | alestane | istream_iterator<int> endOfInput = istream_iterator<int>(); |
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| 17:00.01 | alestane | And that has at least changed the error message. |
| 17:00.26 | alestane | Ah, because I haven't declared one other funciton yet. |
| 17:02.02 | cogwheel | hahaha |
| 17:02.11 | cogwheel | don’t look at it as if it were a condescending supervisor giving you bad marks every time you make a tiny mistake; instead, think of it as an insecure neurotic who gets nervous and uncomfortable whenever it’s not sure what’s going on |
| 17:03.04 | alestane | Really, learning to deal with a compiler is not that different from working with Adrian Monk. |
| 17:03.31 | cogwheel | yeah i thought it was a perfect analogy :P |
| 17:06.02 | alestane | And most people will derive much more satisfaction from thinking they're helping the compiler learn something, than that it thinks they're stupid. |
| 17:06.35 | alestane | Does the STL include some sort of "sum" or "reduce" algorithm for containers or iterators? I'm not seeing one yet. |
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| 17:06.58 | cogwheel | accumulate |
| 17:07.31 | alestane | There it is, in appendix D. |
| 17:07.37 | alestane | "The Numeric Algorithms" |
| 17:10.22 | foxlit | Okay, I have an unrelated-as-always question |
| 17:10.37 | foxlit | Why do people insist on putting an evolution chamber between my hatch and geyser? |
| 17:11.02 | alestane | Cheap harvesting interference. |
| 17:11.16 | alestane | Your drones have to go around it. |
| 17:11.17 | foxlit | But I have two geysers |
| 17:11.20 | Kraps | http://www.electronictheatre.co.uk/index.php/industry-news/8280-assassins-creed-revelations-animus-edition-priced-at-p1000 |
| 17:11.27 | foxlit | And I couldn't care about the second one for the longest time |
| 17:11.41 | foxlit | Basically, their big plan seems to be a roach rush |
| 17:11.42 | alestane | Cheap visibility, then? |
| 17:11.58 | foxlit | backed by a "haha, you no can has gas, so you'll have fewer roaches" |
| 17:12.21 | alestane | It doesn't sound like a strong strategy to me; I don't see it it high-end games. |
| 17:12.34 | foxlit | And I didn't see it until today |
| 17:12.48 | foxlit | Wonder if people are parroting something recent. |
| 17:13.11 | alestane | Could be. |
| 17:13.22 | cogwheel | oh yeah, SC2 |
| 17:13.25 | cogwheel | i remember that game |
| 17:13.28 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 17:13.43 | foxlit | Nothing that can't be solved by running zerglings into his mineral line while he's attacking, though |
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| 17:28.50 | Adys | http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2011/06/chrome-stable-release.html |
| 17:28.54 | Fisker | hey |
| 17:31.11 | Adys | Ability to delete Flash cookies from inside Chrome |
| 17:31.13 | Adys | i cant find that |
| 17:32.17 | foxlit | Same place you delete the rest of your stuff? |
| 17:32.40 | Kalroth | windows -> programs -> uninstall! |
| 17:32.45 | Maldivia | Adys: under the hood, content settings, all cookies and site data ? |
| 17:32.56 | foxlit | It probably refers to the "LET'S PRETEND I DID NOT JUST VISIT THOSE WEBSITES THAT I VISITED IN THE LAST HOUR" |
| 17:32.59 | foxlit | button |
| 17:33.16 | Adys | Maldivia: I was sorta looking for a way to differenciate them |
| 17:33.27 | Adys | from regular cookies that is |
| 17:33.59 | Kalroth | Adys, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html |
| 17:35.01 | Adys | Man flash is retarded. |
| 17:35.18 | Yoshimo | should a geforce 560ti on ultrasettings in a populated place like stormwind /orgrimmar get 60fps or more with a 1024x768 resolution? |
| 17:35.31 | Maldivia | i still find the chrome content settings "dialog" really really anoying |
| 17:35.49 | Kraps | Adys: yet woman flash... |
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| 17:37.27 | Fisker | die Yoshimo |
| 17:37.28 | Fisker | die. |
| 17:37.48 | Ackis | Fisker: Wii U be my friend? |
| 17:37.52 | Fisker | sure |
| 17:38.09 | Fisker | but i want to kill Yoshimo for having a Geforce 560 TI and running a game in 1024x768 |
| 17:38.09 | Ackis | Wii! |
| 17:38.16 | Kraps | so its called Wii U? |
| 17:38.21 | Fisker | yeah Kraps |
| 17:38.23 | Ackis | what's wrong with 1024x768? |
| 17:38.36 | Kraps | worst e3 ever? |
| 17:38.39 | Fisker | well Ackis first of all you're asking whats wrong |
| 17:38.57 | Fisker | you should be running at resolutions 1920x1200 or higher |
| 17:39.38 | Maldivia | Yoshimo: DX9 or Dx11 rendering? |
| 17:40.12 | Adys | Yoshimo: Yes, easily |
| 17:40.18 | Yoshimo | dx9 rendering, i know there is a problem with that card in wow, but i would love to know what should be possible in highly crowded areas on 1920x1200 and ultrasettings on that card |
| 17:40.37 | Adys | 1024x will get 60+ fps on that setup without issues |
| 17:41.16 | Maldivia | with everything cranked to max, including multisampling, I'm getting 60 in the trade district, with a 560Ti |
| 17:41.33 | Maldivia | but that's with vsync :P |
| 17:41.33 | Adys | multisampling wouldnt cause fps issues |
| 17:41.59 | Yoshimo | which driver version? |
| 17:42.07 | Adys | which one are you running? |
| 17:42.10 | Maldivia | the one from this week |
| 17:42.16 | Yoshimo | 266.44 that was shipped with the card |
| 17:42.31 | Adys | thats not too old, should be decent perf-wise |
| 17:42.36 | Adys | but 275.09.04 is out |
| 17:42.48 | Adys | thats linux, so windows should have higher |
| 17:43.09 | Yoshimo | i think its 277.x |
| 17:43.22 | Maldivia | 275.33 |
| 17:43.39 | Maldivia | was releast june 1st |
| 17:43.44 | Maldivia | released* |
| 17:44.30 | Maldivia | but change shadow from ultra to high, and gain a decent fps boost :P |
| 17:44.33 | zenzelezz | so YouTube, why is your "View all Comments" still paginated? :-| |
| 17:44.57 | cogwheel | hmm... |
| 17:45.04 | cogwheel | did today's maintenance break the dungeon finder? |
| 17:45.12 | cogwheel | Tanks aren't CTA on my realm.... |
| 17:45.21 | cogwheel | for either zand or regular heroics |
| 17:45.33 | alestane | Maybe they're short healers at the moment? |
| 17:45.39 | Adys | zenzelezz: because youtube is google's way of telling equality unions that they do employ "special people" too. |
| 17:45.42 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 17:45.46 | Fisker | you're just being blacklisted |
| 17:45.47 | alestane | Or there aren't enough people in the finder yet. |
| 17:45.52 | cogwheel | alestane: i've always seen it as both healer & tank in that case |
| 17:45.53 | Fisker | because u jerk |
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| 17:46.26 | Adys | hm |
| 17:46.29 | zenzelezz | Adys: aha |
| 17:46.37 | Adys | question to webdevs |
| 17:46.58 | Adys | are cookies sent in <link>, <script> and <img> tags' requests? |
| 17:47.33 | Adys | actually yeah, of course they are.. |
| 17:48.01 | Kraps | "HULK HOGAN IS IN THE HOUSE!" so? |
| 17:49.07 | Adys | what does that look like to you all? |
| 17:49.09 | Adys | 6LcZ_84fqzdxw0goY5tfMXHlBpSeQ== |
| 17:49.14 | Adys | (its not base64 |
| 17:49.42 | mckenziemc | base65! |
| 17:50.01 | Arrowmaster | looks base64 |
| 17:50.13 | mckenziemc | underscore |
| 17:50.32 | Adys | yeah i dont think underscore is part of b64 |
| 17:50.54 | Arrowmaster | there are multiple base64 implementations using different symbol characters for the final 2 characters |
| 17:51.03 | mckenziemc | true |
| 17:51.13 | zenzelezz | all right, any idea what "bm" can mean in SC2 comments? It seems to be a verb or something |
| 17:51.37 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_64#URL_applications |
| 17:52.05 | Kraps | oh a hulk hogan wrestling game |
| 17:52.05 | Adys | zenzelezz: big monkey |
| 17:52.23 | Adys | its a verb yes |
| 17:52.23 | zenzelezz | Adys: hm, could be... as in acting silly? |
| 17:52.27 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster called it :o |
| 17:52.29 | Adys | like |
| 17:52.30 | alestane | bad manners. |
| 17:52.33 | Kraps | on kinect |
| 17:52.34 | Adys | "i totally big monkey'd you" |
| 17:52.36 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
| 17:52.44 | Adys | yes, or what alestane said. |
| 17:53.51 | Fisker | butt muncher zenzelezz |
| 18:00.18 | Kraps | the wii u is an etch-a-sketch? |
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| 18:11.29 | Kraps | i cant decide if geoff keighley is being a huge jerk or a hard-hitting journalist |
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| 18:26.23 | Fisker | both Kraps |
| 18:26.33 | Kraps | lol Fisker |
| 18:26.36 | Fisker | you need to be a huge jerk to be a hard-hitting journalist |
| 18:26.40 | Fisker | not sure if srs though |
| 18:26.44 | Fisker | he usually isn't that hard hitting |
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| 18:27.15 | Kraps | you saw the interview with the nintendo president? |
| 18:27.28 | Kraps | more like a grilling |
| 18:27.28 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:27.37 | Fisker | he deserved it |
| 18:27.43 | Fisker | was a complete BS announcement |
| 18:27.44 | jnwhiteh | hrm. |
| 18:27.44 | Dagmar | Someone's finally asking him what he's doing with all those little kids? |
| 18:27.50 | jnwhiteh | rift thinks I'm playing 80x600 now. |
| 18:27.53 | jnwhiteh | err 800 |
| 18:28.12 | Dagmar | I bet the frame rates would be awesome at 80x600 |
| 18:28.16 | Kraps | Fisker: what was, the wii u? |
| 18:28.28 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:28.32 | Dagmar | "Presenting Nintendos most fragile controller yet!" |
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| 18:29.20 | nicoli_s | fisker:is there anything you dont hate |
| 18:29.22 | Dagmar | ...then again, an Atari joystick the family dog could chew on for an hour and it would still be fine had other drawbacks... |
| 18:29.28 | Fisker | anyway their conference could basically be boiled down to: We don't have shit, and won't have shit before E3 2012, but please stay tuned |
| 18:29.47 | Fisker | what did i hate nicoli_s ? |
| 18:30.02 | nicoli_s | everything? |
| 18:30.17 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|netbook (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 18:30.23 | Fisker | no |
| 18:30.26 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 18:30.39 | mckenziemc | Fisker hey |
| 18:30.59 | Fisker | i'm right though nicoli_s |
| 18:31.03 | Fisker | no hate involved |
| 18:31.13 | nicoli_s | i dont think yer right in saying its bullshit |
| 18:31.18 | mckenziemc | not mutually exclusive |
| 18:31.24 | mckenziemc | @Fisker |
| 18:31.55 | Fisker | why not nicoli_s ? |
| 18:32.22 | nicoli_s | because im pretty damn excited about it personally |
| 18:32.37 | Torhal|work | watches nicoli_s troll Fisker into obscurity. |
| 18:32.37 | Fisker | i'm not calling the product bullshit |
| 18:32.42 | Fisker | i'm calling the announcement bullshit |
| 18:33.22 | nicoli_s | so you expected them to announce that they had the games ready already, and ready to sell? |
| 18:33.37 | Fisker | no? |
| 18:35.12 | Fisker | i would say that the lack of blu-ray support is kind of disappointing though |
| 18:35.28 | nicoli_s | agreed |
| 18:39.24 | Kraps | why are they replaying the ME3 stuff? |
| 18:41.42 | Fisker | why not? |
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| 18:42.44 | Kraps | old |
| 18:43.35 | Fisker | old |
| 18:44.07 | Kraps | older |
| 18:44.40 | Kraps | this guy is old http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo6Q14vBB1c |
| 18:45.32 | Jamash|nap | Fisker: I find your lack of blu-ray support distrubing |
| 18:45.54 | Fisker | well to be fair ODD's should be dead already |
| 18:46.11 | mckenziemc | orly |
| 18:46.13 | Jamash|nap | my main question is how big is its internal storage |
| 18:46.33 | Fisker | from the image one would think you could expand with a 2.5" hdd |
| 18:47.15 | Jamash|nap | it looks like a tiny 360 |
| 18:47.20 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/photos/nintendo-wii-u-console-eyes-on/#4201997 |
| 18:47.47 | Fisker | if the rumors are true it's a slightly faster Xbox (CPU-wise) but generations ahead (GPU wise) |
| 18:47.55 | Jamash|nap | yay |
| 18:47.57 | Fisker | It's based on the HD6800 series apparently |
| 18:48.01 | Jamash|nap | brb |
| 18:48.22 | Ackis | wait the Wii U looks like the Wii? |
| 18:48.32 | Fisker | no |
| 18:48.40 | Fisker | that looks nothing like the wii |
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| 18:54.32 | Fisker | Ackis please |
| 18:55.50 | Maldivia | hmm, rune strike added damage still looks off on the new build of the ptr |
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| 19:01.23 | Fisker | you sure? |
| 19:02.00 | kd3|netbook | patch 4.2 on 6/21, gasp |
| 19:02.11 | Adys | meh |
| 19:03.50 | Fisker | old kd3|netbook |
| 19:06.39 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone have a char on US-PvE PTR? |
| 19:09.00 | Fisker | yes |
| 19:22.09 | mckenziemc | shoos Fisker away |
| 19:22.17 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 19:22.19 | Fisker | umadbro? |
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| 19:27.06 | Fisker | slaps Maldivia around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:02.53 | Arrowmaster | if i upgrade the firmware on my wrt54gl i think it will do full ipv6 |
| 22:02.55 | Ycarene | Mine, it doesn't have enough memory to even support ipv6 I believe, I installed dd-wrt micro and there's no ipv6 support. |
| 22:03.08 | Fisker | not official firmware Arrowmaster |
| 22:03.10 | Fisker | you must be maaaaaaaaad |
| 22:03.14 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 22:03.16 | Fisker | storage space Ycarene |
| 22:03.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont use the official firmware anyway |
| 22:03.27 | Fisker | you need to support big images to use ipv6 |
| 22:03.43 | Jamash | I hear ipv6 addresses are six times bigger |
| 22:04.00 | Fisker | naw |
| 22:04.08 | Jamash | 50% bigger? |
| 22:04.15 | Gnarfoz | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088258/ subtle, imdb |
| 22:04.26 | cogwheel | Fisker: i need a new neck piece |
| 22:04.40 | Fisker | a lot more Jamash :P |
| 22:05.35 | Fisker | basically you have to double the amount of ip addresses 96 times :P |
| 22:06.16 | cogwheel | aren't there something in the millions or billions of ip addresses per square foot on the planet? |
| 22:06.26 | Jamash | lua> 2^128 |
| 22:06.30 | lua_bot | Jamash: 3.4028236692094e+38 |
| 22:07.05 | Ycarene | Though I can see bigger organizations buying up HUGE blocks at a time. |
| 22:07.06 | Fisker | omg |
| 22:07.10 | Fisker | if i calced this right |
| 22:07.23 | cogwheel | all blocks are HUGE imo >< |
| 22:07.26 | Fisker | it's 79228162514264337593543950336 times bigger |
| 22:07.31 | Jamash | lua> 4* 3.14159 * (4000^2) |
| 22:07.31 | lua_bot | Jamash: 201061760 |
| 22:07.46 | Fisker | lua> 2^32*79228162514264337593543950336 |
| 22:07.46 | lua_bot | Fisker: 3.4028236692094e+38 |
| 22:07.46 | foxlit | lua> 2^128/(510007000*1000^2*100^2) |
| 22:07.47 | lua_bot | foxlit: 6.6721116949559e+19 |
| 22:07.50 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 22:07.53 | Fisker | :3 |
| 22:08.13 | Jamash | lua> (2^128)/(4* 3.14159 * (4000^2) * (5280^2)) |
| 22:08.14 | lua_bot | Jamash: 6.0707468066116e+22 |
| 22:08.40 | Jamash | that many per square foot |
| 22:08.46 | Stanzilla | lua> 1+1 |
| 22:08.47 | lua_bot | Stanzilla: 2 |
| 22:08.48 | cogwheel | i think that's wrong |
| 22:08.49 | Stanzilla | i win |
| 22:08.55 | foxlit | (a) earth is not a sphere |
| 22:09.13 | foxlit | (b) feet are for people who can't SI. |
| 22:09.18 | Jamash | (number of addresses) / (surface area of earth in square miles) * (number of square feet in square mile)) = win |
| 22:09.26 | Arrowmaster | the way ipv6 is allocated though could mean it will be all used up just as fast as ipv4 |
| 22:09.40 | foxlit | Sir. |
| 22:09.44 | foxlit | How is ipv6 allocated? |
| 22:09.45 | Jamash | s/\//\/\(/ |
| 22:09.52 | Jamash | nuts |
| 22:09.55 | foxlit | How fast was ipv4 used up? |
| 22:10.00 | Arrowmaster | well people seem to have this idea that everybody gets a /64 |
| 22:10.04 | Jamash | about fifty years |
| 22:10.16 | Jamash | Correct, every customer gets a /64 |
| 22:10.27 | Arrowmaster | incorrect |
| 22:10.28 | Jamash | which is stupid, but I'm not in charge |
| 22:10.50 | foxlit | So there are 2^64 thingies, and 50 years? |
| 22:11.08 | foxlit | lua> 2^64/50/365/24/3600 |
| 22:11.08 | lua_bot | foxlit: 11698848347.101 |
| 22:11.15 | Arrowmaster | there is nothing saying every residential customer must get a /64 and imho that is stupid |
| 22:11.29 | foxlit | Only need that many people getting their allocated block per second! |
| 22:11.30 | Jamash | http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-512#assignment_size |
| 22:11.40 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: rfcs are suggesting /56s |
| 22:11.45 | Gnarfoz | old rfcs even suggested /48s |
| 22:12.00 | foxlit | Just 11 billion. |
| 22:12.01 | Jamash | RIPE says /64, I'm just passing that info along |
| 22:12.04 | Gnarfoz | it's not going to be smaller than /64 because that's required for SLAAC |
| 22:12.16 | Gnarfoz | (or whatever that acronym was for autoconfig) |
| 22:12.23 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.25 | foxlit | Can we go back a second and agree that "Arrowmaster: the way ipv6 is allocated though could mean it will be all used up just as fast as ipv4" is simply not true? |
| 22:12.51 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: no... |
| 22:12.53 | Arrowmaster | the first so many bits in an ipv6 address are an indicator of region in the world |
| 22:12.58 | Arrowmaster | and so on |
| 22:13.21 | Jamash | even if every customer gets a /64, there are still... |
| 22:13.31 | Jamash | lua> (2^64)/(4* 3.14159 * (4000^2) * (5280^2)) |
| 22:13.31 | lua_bot | Jamash: 3290.9584381689 |
| 22:13.38 | Jamash | per square foot |
| 22:13.50 | Gnarfoz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#Addressing 4th paragraph |
| 22:13.55 | foxlit | Jamash: skyscrapers foil that plan. |
| 22:14.03 | Jamash | so, suck it trebek |
| 22:14.23 | kd3|netbook | but then texas/alaska/etc... help |
| 22:14.24 | Jamash | do you have a 3290 story office building in mind? |
| 22:14.28 | Gnarfoz | fuck sqft. 667 billion per mm^2 |
| 22:14.33 | kd3|netbook | instead of people per square mile, it's miles per square people |
| 22:14.41 | Jamash | wait, what |
| 22:14.43 | kd3|netbook | er, square miles per person* |
| 22:14.49 | Jamash | no, no, I like that |
| 22:14.54 | kd3|netbook | should not be thinking about this and class |
| 22:15.17 | Gnarfoz | s/thinking.*/thinking// |
| 22:15.43 | kd3|netbook | right now it's Data Mining, and not of the bibi variety |
| 22:15.53 | Gnarfoz | Minecraft variety |
| 22:16.00 | Fisker | omg |
| 22:16.15 | Fisker | why are people using scroll wheel to cycle through weapons ? |
| 22:16.15 | kd3|netbook | that would be interesting, a class of ~30 people getting taught how to decompile minecraft |
| 22:16.20 | Fisker | have they never heard of the number buttons? |
| 22:21.02 | Fisker | LOL |
| 22:21.09 | kd3|netbook | gah. looks like I'm going to have to pirate office since the school's msdnaa license doesn't provide it and I need excel 2008 for this class >.< |
| 22:21.13 | Fisker | Taking down a whole building "That's not a handgun but a tank" |
| 22:21.21 | Arrowmaster | also why use a /64 in ipv6 when you dont need it, what if you only need a /126 |
| 22:21.27 | Fisker | half an hour ago they showed someone downing a hotel with a bazooka |
| 22:22.12 | kd3|netbook | because what if, in 50 years, we do need a /64's worth of ips? how much crap is going to have a networking stack? hell, 15 years? 10? |
| 22:22.41 | Arrowmaster | no i mean, everything seems to imply that the smallest subnet anybody would use is /64 |
| 22:22.42 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_US/html/pbPage.E3_2011 |
| 22:22.54 | Fisker | noty.jpg TC-Laptop |
| 22:23.07 | Fisker | when did ubisoft make a storefront btw? |
| 22:23.17 | Kraps | wow |
| 22:23.28 | Arrowmaster | does an isp really need to use an entire /64 just for links between two routers |
| 22:23.36 | kd3|netbook | no |
| 22:23.40 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt, currently they use /30s |
| 22:23.55 | Fisker | you can have subnets within a subnet can't you? |
| 22:24.00 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:24.12 | Fisker | so this isn't inception? |
| 22:24.12 | Arrowmaster | they cant overlap |
| 22:24.30 | Kraps | subnetion |
| 22:24.35 | Galvin | I dreamed you here :) |
| 22:26.54 | TC-Laptop | does that mean if we kill you Fisker goes away? |
| 22:27.07 | kd3|netbook | ooh |
| 22:31.33 | kd3|netbook | also, yay. class letting out early |
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| 23:11.17 | Kraps | i lol'd http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/htwg3/nintendo_announces_a_firetruck/ |
| 23:13.23 | cogwheel | THANK YOU REDDIT |
| 23:13.27 | cogwheel | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/htwg3/nintendo_announces_a_firetruck/ |
| 23:13.35 | cogwheel | i'm not the only one who thought of Kung Pow |
| 23:13.44 | cogwheel | (comments) |
| 23:14.35 | Kraps | cogwheel: ... |
| 23:16.06 | cogwheel | wii u wii u wii u |
| 23:16.48 | Trela | XD |
| 23:16.51 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JElywbkSbY |
| 23:17.48 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_19262_6-glitches-that-accidentally-invented-modern-gaming.html |
| 23:20.03 | Corrodias | oh, cool |
| 23:20.15 | cogwheel | Kraps: oh woops that was supposed to be a permalink to the comment not another one to the same page >< |
| 23:20.28 | Kraps | heh |
| 23:20.49 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 23:21.15 | Fisker | whitelist amirite? |
| 23:21.41 | cogwheel | i'll add you to the whitelist on one condition: |
| 23:21.45 | cogwheel | the blacklist overrides it |
| 23:23.07 | Fisker | omg staem |
| 23:24.31 | Fisker | i'm mad cogwheel |
| 23:24.36 | Fisker | for some reason my audio drivers won't mute |
| 23:24.43 | Fisker | but when i do it turns off the left channel |
| 23:24.49 | Fisker | and it can't be turned on again |
| 23:24.50 | Fisker | jerks |
| 23:25.02 | cogwheel | audio is jerks a lot |
| 23:25.15 | cogwheel | my mic won't work if i unplug it and plug it back in |
| 23:25.18 | cogwheel | without rebooting |
| 23:25.32 | Adys | Kraps: Shite article :/ |
| 23:25.37 | Adys | only worthwhile one was #2 |
| 23:25.45 | |Jelly| | Cog: Fix steam |
| 23:25.52 | |Jelly| | IMO |
| 23:25.58 | Fisker | agreed |
| 23:26.12 | Fisker | lets slap someone |
| 23:26.17 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:26.18 | Fisker | for example |
| 23:26.37 | cogwheel | QFQFQFQFQF[RIGHT CLICK] |
| 23:26.53 | Kraps | no |
| 23:27.30 | cogwheel | didn't work? |
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| 23:29.00 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 23:29.04 | Fisker | lets play a game |
| 23:29.11 | cogwheel | no. time for home. |
| 23:29.21 | Fisker | then you are a jerk |
| 23:29.23 | Fisker | goodbye sir |
| 23:32.57 | Fisker | yus Jamash |
| 23:33.01 | Fisker | i mean yus |Jelly| |
| 23:33.41 | Kraps | http://konamicodesites.com/ |
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| 23:35.58 | Fisker | it is i |
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| 23:47.26 | bleeter | no u |
| 23:49.24 | Fisker | yes me |
| 23:49.27 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 23:49.32 | Fisker | i hate this shit |
| 23:49.38 | Fisker | i have to get up in like 4 hours |
| 23:49.49 | Fisker | i wanted to go to bed like 2 hours ago |
| 23:49.51 | Fisker | but i couldn't |
| 23:49.56 | Fisker | so now i'm just staying up |
| 23:49.58 | Fisker | like a boss |
| 23:50.34 | kd3 | good luck getting anything done later today, then |
| 23:52.12 | Fisker | i can sleep kd3 |
| 23:52.16 | Fisker | sounds like a great idea no? |
| 23:53.38 | Cide | no |
| 23:53.52 | Cide | bad idea is good |
| 23:54.20 | Cide | ucwatididdere? |
| 23:54.45 | Fisker | oh wut |
| 23:54.55 | Fisker | what are you doing up Cide ? |
| 23:55.27 | Cide | installing gentoo |
| 23:55.42 | Cide | in a vm~ |
| 23:56.24 | Fisker | oh god not gentoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 23:56.39 | Cide | oh nooooooooo |
| 23:56.39 | Fisker | i would rather do a hackintosh in a vm |
| 23:56.44 | Fisker | (and i did) |
| 23:56.47 | Cide | tried |
| 23:56.48 | Fisker | it was horrible |
| 23:56.54 | Cide | but hackintosh is fail |
| 23:56.57 | Fisker | yeah |
