| 00:00.07 | gsnerf | it is as it's always been |
| 00:00.07 | A-KO | the explorer UI is simply a "legacy kludge" part of the UI |
| 00:00.17 | gsnerf | you will be able to just switch it of |
| 00:00.21 | Stanzilla | ^that |
| 00:00.23 | Stanzilla | +f |
| 00:00.33 | gsnerf | thx :) |
| 00:01.29 | Scotepi | wow is pastebin indexed fast |
| 00:01.32 | Stanzilla | still the most interesting thing is the new filesystem |
| 00:01.36 | Stanzilla | wonder what it really can do |
| 00:01.37 | Scotepi | my code i just posted is alredy on google |
| 00:10.44 | Fisker | why is it bad A-KO ? |
| 00:11.09 | Fisker | "Oh no my installation of Windows is ~50MB more because of the included resources to support a new theme" |
| 00:11.13 | Fisker | k |
| 00:11.22 | Fisker | (numbers may be made up) |
| 00:11.39 | Cide | FIFTY MEGABYTES OF BLOAT? |
| 00:12.01 | Fisker | totally oh nos Cide |
| 00:12.12 | A-KO | No, it's because I don't like the idea that they're focusing entirely on this "tablet" and "touch" interface that has no bearing on how I use a desktop PC--and will not have any bearing on how I use a desktop PC. Even if the interface on a desktop was touch, even if the interface was "good", it would still suck to use--because arm movements are a lot more stressful on the body than finger |
| 00:12.12 | A-KO | movements. |
| 00:12.25 | A-KO | sliding across something on a 30" LCD versus a 4" LCD is a HUGE difference |
| 00:13.02 | A-KO | they need to accept that *different devices* will have *different interfaces* |
| 00:13.08 | A-KO | that said, it might be useful with Kinect |
| 00:13.10 | Fisker | they did |
| 00:13.29 | A-KO | no, they didn't. They have a bolt-on "explorer" interface |
| 00:13.35 | A-KO | but the tablet UI is still the heart of the UI |
| 00:13.39 | A-KO | you can see that in the video |
| 00:13.51 | A-KO | "oh look, you can dragy our desktop to the right and still see your windows 8 applications" |
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| 00:14.42 | Fisker | how do you know any of that will be active, let alone mandatory on the desktop ui? |
| 00:16.14 | karl_w_w | so does that mark the start of windows 8 publicity-frenzy? |
| 00:16.20 | A-KO | yes karl_w_w |
| 00:16.21 | A-KO | pretty much |
| 00:18.45 | karl_w_w | windows os build-up is much like an election campaign. any stuff that sounds great will never happen, any stuff that sound decent will be underwhelming or just done completely wrong, and anything else will be pointless or detrimental. |
| 00:19.07 | Fisker | yeah like wavy and transperent windows |
| 00:19.11 | Scotepi | wowprogramming is good for lua, is there a simaler site for XML? |
| 00:19.13 | Fisker | what a shame they never put those into vista |
| 00:19.37 | karl_w_w | herm |
| 00:19.43 | karl_w_w | wowprogramming is terrible for lua |
| 00:19.53 | karl_w_w | and xml doesn't need much explanation :P |
| 00:20.12 | Scotepi | i just want to know all the atributes for <button> and where i can place it |
| 00:20.27 | Scotepi | i love wowprogramming for lua, there search sucks tho |
| 00:20.38 | Scotepi | and that javascript ondblclick thing |
| 00:24.19 | foxlit | heh, weird 3v3 |
| 00:24.34 | foxlit | "we're gonna nine-pool you! AND NEVER BUILD ANY MORE DRONES." |
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| 00:31.05 | karl_w_w | why do so few warlocks know that warlocks can interrupt? |
| 00:31.35 | Scotepi | they can? |
| 00:31.44 | Scotepi | isnt it only with a fel hunter? |
| 00:32.20 | durcyn | well, it's only been possible since 2004, give them a break |
| 00:32.44 | karl_w_w | yeah, only with fel hunter |
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| 00:34.45 | karl_w_w | it's just like paladins |
| 00:35.06 | karl_w_w | 95% of paladins have never even heard of turn evil, I'm convinced of it |
| 00:35.52 | foxlit | because who the hell summons a fel hunter? |
| 00:36.14 | Shirik|Ghost | Â |
| 00:36.36 | foxlit | tanks > ghosts, discuss. |
| 00:37.02 | Shirik|Ghost | disagree |
| 00:37.08 | Shirik|Ghost | tanks will go right through ghosts |
| 00:37.13 | Shirik|Ghost | they have no way to defeat them |
| 00:38.15 | foxlit | scan first, ask questions later. |
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| 00:40.35 | karl_w_w | a tank is only as strong as the meat bag inside it, and considering theoretically most meat bags are highly susceptible to ghosts scaring the crap out of them, it should be ghosts > tanks |
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| 00:43.34 | Scotepi | i have a issue with my xml where scale isnt behind inharited, how can i fix that? |
| 00:44.41 | Wobin | I can only suggest not using xml and doing it in lua |
| 00:44.57 | Wobin | your life will be infinitely easier =P |
| 00:45.20 | Scotepi | ive alredy done it in both and there are some things i cant get working in xml |
| 00:45.28 | Scotepi | * i cant get working in lua |
| 00:45.35 | Scotepi | such as layers |
| 00:45.46 | Shirik|Ghost | I didn't know American Express offered savings accounts |
| 00:46.05 | Shirik|Ghost | so they take money from you, give you 1% interest, and then sell it back to you at 20% interest |
| 00:46.07 | Shirik|Ghost | nice |
| 00:46.36 | Wobin | I don't think I've had any issues with layers in lua |
| 00:46.51 | Wobin | but sure... just check the parenting, perhaps |
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| 00:47.31 | Shirik|Ghost | (17:44:55) (wikirc) [[Special:Log/newusers]] create * I will shit * (New user account) |
| 00:47.34 | Shirik|Ghost | This should be good |
| 00:47.43 | foxlit | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20110601 |
| 00:47.57 | foxlit | "... great and knowledgeable wild mature swine" is an awesome line. |
| 00:57.02 | Fisker | farts upon Shirik|Ghost |
| 00:58.16 | Arrowmaster | fucking linux flash player, i swear this thing is broken on half of sites |
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| 00:59.53 | mckenziemc | fucking flash |
| 01:00.56 | Arrowmaster | can anybody else on 64bit linux with the lastest adobe flash get anything on gametrailers.com to work? |
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| 01:08.28 | Dagmar | Don't blame flash... blame Adobe |
| 01:08.51 | Dagmar | They've got *one* ("count 'em... ONE!") guy who works on that port and he doesn't even get to work on it full-time |
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| 01:11.16 | airtonix | mckenziemc: sounds like a candid photo caption of a superhero |
| 01:11.34 | airtonix | picture of flash grinning |
| 01:16.10 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i know that |
| 01:19.46 | Arrowmaster | ok what the fuck, did they stop updating the 64bit linux version again? |
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| 01:25.42 | Arrowmaster | apparently they did because the 64bit version is 6 fucking months old |
| 01:27.48 | Cide | so apparently engulfing magic does damage proportional to the damage caused? |
| 01:28.39 | karl_w_w | double the damage you deal isn't it? |
| 01:28.56 | Cide | seems to be 1:1 |
| 01:29.00 | Arrowmaster | hmm i cant find where to leave angry comments on that one idiots blog page at adobe |
| 01:29.01 | karl_w_w | oh thats right |
| 01:29.06 | Cide | our mage hit deep freeze right as it hit |
| 01:29.07 | karl_w_w | your damage is doubled |
| 01:29.11 | Cide | it killed everybody |
| 01:29.13 | karl_w_w | haha yeah |
| 01:29.23 | Dagmar | Wheee! |
| 01:29.25 | Dagmar | The mage wins! |
| 01:29.34 | karl_w_w | it's landed on me before when I've had a fireball and pyroblast in flight |
| 01:29.41 | karl_w_w | it's rather ridiculous |
| 01:30.25 | Dagmar | I guess spell-stealing that is off the table |
| 01:30.37 | Scotepi | I have a FontString, how can i set a OnClick? |
| 01:30.49 | karl_w_w | spellstealing what? |
| 01:33.00 | Dagmar | Ah I see |
| 01:33.33 | Dagmar | That's a "mind your positioning" effect... I hadn't googled it yet |
| 01:33.49 | karl_w_w | it's a pain in the ass effect |
| 01:34.05 | karl_w_w | good idea, terrible implementation :P |
| 01:34.11 | Dagmar | Not if you're a hunter that's compulsively as far away from anything as he can get |
| 01:34.28 | karl_w_w | you need to be stacked though |
| 01:34.38 | karl_w_w | for meteors |
| 01:35.30 | durcyn | what, it favors ranged, just spread them out and have the meteor run into melee |
| 01:35.36 | Dagmar | Hey, just as long as they don't start doing stuff that requires us to compute new primes in the middle of a fight |
| 01:35.43 | karl_w_w | it's like the mirror soul effect on last boss of forge of souls |
| 01:35.57 | durcyn | the implementations aren't terrible if you're not terrible yourself |
| 01:36.02 | Dagmar | Nah I'd say it's better than that |
| 01:36.14 | Dagmar | It actually took me four or five shots to kill myself on that one before we figured it out |
| 01:36.29 | karl_w_w | any design where a slight stroke of bad luck can 1 shot a party member is bad design |
| 01:36.45 | Dagmar | from floor: "NOW I know what Mirrored Soul means!~lol~" |
| 01:36.51 | durcyn | i'm sure they'll call you once they've perfected the MMO on rails. |
| 01:37.22 | Wobin | agrees with Karl |
| 01:37.35 | Wobin | I don't mind if the players mistake can kill themselves |
| 01:37.38 | Wobin | that's an object lesson |
| 01:37.45 | Wobin | but if, like mirrored soul, it can kill someone else |
| 01:37.45 | Dagmar | that's pretty much my take on it |
| 01:37.46 | Wobin | ... |
| 01:38.19 | Dagmar | Most of us are going to figure it out before we cna do 50k |
| 01:38.22 | Wobin | especially as a healer, I got so irritated at stupid -stupid- dps |
| 01:38.55 | Wobin | it's not as if "STOP GODDAMN DPS" is a particularly -difficult- action to take |
| 01:39.16 | Dagmar | ...and if you *do* have a spectacular stroke of luck that wipes the raid, that just means if you can pull it off *without* picking The Worst Time Ever to do it... MOAR DEEPS |
| 01:39.18 | karl_w_w | no the issue is when it's possible for the damage to already b incoming |
| 01:39.24 | karl_w_w | when u get the buff |
| 01:39.43 | Dagmar | Okay that would not be right then |
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| 01:39.54 | karl_w_w | i get the buff, i cant stop my spells travelling towards the target |
| 01:40.03 | Dagmar | Asking someone to stop DPS in the next few ticks is one thing, but requiring them to know the future is another |
| 01:40.10 | karl_w_w | and given i have some latency, i cant stop casts that are just about to fiish |
| 01:40.13 | Dagmar | They depends on the cast time |
| 01:40.25 | Kraps | new nvidia drivers |
| 01:40.26 | durcyn | i say again, if your strategy requires you to care about engulfing magic, then you are /doing it wrong/ |
| 01:40.50 | Dagmar | Like good ol' Dark Smash... six second cast time. You can be on HughesNet and still dodge it |
| 01:41.00 | Dagmar | One of our guild's tanks was on HughesNet actually |
| 01:41.10 | karl_w_w | you're right, we should ignore engulfing magic and require everyone to run in when they get meteor, and spread dazzling flames everywhere like retards |
| 01:41.12 | karl_w_w | ohwait |
| 01:41.14 | Dagmar | A *full* two seconds latency as the absolute minimum |
| 01:41.47 | Dagmar | karl: There's time for turkey shoots, and there's time for minding your butt and just letting the autos roll out man |
| 01:41.51 | durcyn | yes, i've obviously never done it, and your retarded strategy is correct by default |
| 01:41.56 | Wobin | hehe, engulfing magic + lay on hands |
| 01:42.08 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 01:42.08 | Dagmar | If I can get through the entire fight more or less ignoring what the boss does, that's a problem |
| 01:42.18 | Dagmar | Wobin: You see that comment, too. Heheh yeah |
| 01:42.42 | Wobin | I can totally understand the thought process though =P |
| 01:42.52 | Dagmar | ...and frankly in the last xpac there were a number of fights where I could mostly just stand there and focus on maxing my DPS |
| 01:42.57 | Wobin | "Oh god TANK IS DYING!!" |
| 01:43.24 | Wobin | good old saurfang for melee |
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| 01:43.36 | Dagmar | These new fights seem to have quite a bit more that's about radically changing the battle conditions and making you deal with it "or else" |
| 01:43.45 | karl_w_w | i'd love to know how you get all the casters in a 25 man in casting range of the boss, and spread out enough so that they dont have to worry about engulfing magic |
| 01:44.03 | Dagmar | You ahve people pay attention to their buffs |
| 01:44.03 | karl_w_w | with enough space between them for any of them to run through to get into melee |
| 01:44.23 | karl_w_w | please durcyn, draw me a map of that |
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| 01:44.27 | karl_w_w | I'm quite interested |
| 01:44.36 | durcyn | draw you a circle? naw. |
| 01:44.36 | Dagmar | 10 of them should have little problem |
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| 01:45.03 | Dagmar | it's also not like everone *has* to be inside the meteor zone |
| 01:45.20 | karl_w_w | whats range of engulfing? 10 yards? |
| 01:45.27 | Dagmar | So long as "most" of you make it it's usually fine |
| 01:45.41 | karl_w_w | in his plan they are running into melee |
| 01:46.27 | karl_w_w | somehow weaving their way through an inticate network so they are never withing engulfing magic range of any of the other ranged in the group |
| 01:46.30 | Dagmar | You could also just do a bit of triage and make ranged stand in pairs |
| 01:47.02 | Dagmar | "You hold your buddie's life in *your* hands. Mind when you shoot." |
| 01:47.22 | Dagmar | But seldom do I ever see effects like that apply to things like DoTs that were already in progress |
| 01:47.28 | Dagmar | Locks would s**t themselves |
| 01:47.41 | karl_w_w | it even applies to hots already ticking :P |
| 01:47.46 | karl_w_w | pisses our druid off |
| 01:48.01 | Dagmar | Okay *that* is a bit much |
| 01:48.12 | Wobin | haha, I remember the days of BC and having a map of where to run to for Gruul |
| 01:48.19 | Dagmar | Hopefully someone crunched the numbers on that and found an acceptable margin |
| 01:48.41 | Kraps | Miramax now available on hulu plus! |
| 01:48.42 | Dagmar | is that effect a possibility through the whole encounter? |
| 01:49.53 | Dagmar | Try to five-man Vaj. |
| 01:50.14 | Dagmar | ...although that's probably easier now than it was at 80 |
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| 01:51.10 | Dagmar | We must have done that like 30 times because it was plenty of practice getting to and from stuff |
| 01:51.50 | Dagmar | ...although the number of mobs running around by the time we got things moving would make 70s wet themslves |
| 01:52.41 | Fisker | haha Parnic |
| 01:52.45 | Fisker | thanks for being wrong! :3 |
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| 01:57.41 | karl_w_w | <Dagmar> ...and frankly in the last xpac there were a number of fights where I could mostly just stand there and focus on maxing my DPS <- such as? |
| 01:57.59 | karl_w_w | well, if ur melee I guess deathbringer |
| 01:58.01 | Dagmar | Half of ICC's fights. |
| 01:58.25 | Dagmar | It was months before I even knew what was up with the one guy in the middle of the round room in the third part of that |
| 01:58.35 | Dagmar | All I ahd to do was stand back and blaze away |
| 01:58.55 | karl_w_w | so everyone else was coving for you :P |
| 01:58.55 | Fisker | imma go sleep Dagmar |
| 01:58.56 | Fisker | bye |
| 01:58.56 | Dagmar | The way most people wanted to take the two lamers in the first room, same deal |
| 01:59.16 | Dagmar | No everyone else that was ranged was usually sticking close to me becaus eI don't die much |
| 01:59.44 | Dagmar | My #1 priority is not DPS, it's staying alive to DO dps |
| 02:00.08 | Dagmar | ...so if I'm not having to run from something, or to something, I get bored |
| 02:00.29 | Dagmar | It's not like five button whack-a-mole is impossible stuff |
| 02:00.37 | karl_w_w | i dont know what fight you could be talking about |
| 02:00.45 | Dagmar | ...and for awhile it was just three-button whackamole |
| 02:00.57 | Dagmar | Failrik and Marvin |
| 02:01.14 | karl_w_w | thats not an icc fight :P |
| 02:01.14 | Dagmar | Everyone wanted to go stand in the corner of the alcove and just AoE |
| 02:01.37 | Dagmar | Orc Master Ass Face or whatever his name was was a little over-the-top tho |
| 02:01.54 | Scotepi | I am having a odd issue with a frame, I create it and set the point but its not there, if I set the point again but change the point it shows up |
| 02:02.13 | Scotepi | am i missing a frame:Show() or something |
| 02:02.32 | Dagmar | The two scientist guys... A nice hookey pokey but mainly just picking a non-stupid place to spot and shooting like mad until either a) I turn green, or b) the wacky gnome yells at us |
| 02:02.32 | Scotepi | btw. i did try frame:Show() after the first SetPoint(); |
| 02:03.12 | Dagmar | I mean this *is* actually part of the reason so many hunters pretty much turned stupid. |
| 02:03.33 | karl_w_w | I don't know what boss you're talking about now either |
| 02:03.41 | Dagmar | They got *used* to fights where they were simply way the hell out there and could just click until their finger got tired |
| 02:03.41 | karl_w_w | but regardless, heroics will always be easy |
| 02:04.05 | Dagmar | There's also one of my favorites... "HEY LEWK A LARGE WAVE OF FIRE" |
| 02:04.19 | Dagmar | Disengage == Not Caring. |
| 02:04.45 | Dagmar | ...which is sort of a mechanic exploit I guess, but it generally worked so I figured either they didn't care, or they expected us to |
| 02:05.15 | Dagmar | Melee DPS is an entirely different thing from ranged. |
| 02:05.53 | Dagmar | Too much whiffing if you're not paying attention, but for strictly ranged people, you'll often barely even look at the actual boss |
| 02:06.29 | Dagmar | ...which means you mostly wind up just standing there pushing buttons until something makes you move |
| 02:09.00 | Dagmar | This.. http://www.wowpedia.org/Professor_Putricide ... decent fight. Frequent reasons to pick up and move |
| 02:09.24 | karl_w_w | not really |
| 02:09.38 | karl_w_w | there was less movement on pp than a lot of other fights |
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| 02:10.25 | Dagmar | http://www.wowpedia.org/Valithria_Dreamwalker <-- OMG running |
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| 02:11.32 | Dagmar | Marrowgar was mostly standing interspersed with _just_ running around |
| 02:11.49 | Dagmar | Deathwhisper was pretty much throwing up shooting gallery targets for you |
| 02:13.19 | Dagmar | As far as ranged DPS were concerned there, she might as well have been wearing a straw hat and giving away stuffed animals |
| 02:14.52 | Fisker | craaaaaaaaaaamp |
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| 02:31.51 | mckenziemc | Fisker what are you doing up |
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| 04:15.17 | Cide | Shirik|Ghost is super afk |
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| 04:24.12 | Scotepi | using the ToC LoadWith, does it load before it after the addons listed? |
| 04:37.07 | Arrowmaster | after |
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| 04:39.00 | kd3 | ah, that's useful |
| 04:39.15 | kd3 | took ~3 clicks to share my connection in NM |
| 04:39.24 | kd3 | didn't know that NM could do that |
| 04:40.58 | Scotepi | i know this is a dumb 101 question but can't find the anwser, its been to long since i havent used ace... my OnLoad isn't running http://pastebin.com/xKqV7bux |
| 04:41.08 | Scotepi | i get test |
| 04:42.43 | Scotepi | oh, don't i have to register the event addon loaded... |
| 04:45.11 | Arrowmaster | OnLoad never works when you set it in lua |
| 04:45.36 | Arrowmaster | and its completely redundant in lua |
| 04:47.54 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/shoopm.jpg |
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| 04:50.14 | Thunder_Child | mikma: incorrect, planets dont work like bodies, they whould shatter from the front first. |
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| 06:52.06 | kd3 | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=245650 |
| 06:53.16 | karl_w_w | amusing why? |
| 06:53.23 | kd3 | just the version number |
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| 07:23.33 | mckenziemc1 | lolo |
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| 07:23.39 | mckenziemc1 | ^ fail :( |
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| 09:13.08 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: do you have a problem with wowprogramming that you'd like to share with me? |
| 09:13.18 | karl_w_w | not at all |
| 09:13.22 | karl_w_w | it's the best reference |
| 09:13.29 | karl_w_w | doesn't teach you lua though |
| 09:13.36 | jnwhiteh | the book does |
| 09:13.39 | jnwhiteh | quite well, actually |
| 09:13.45 | jnwhiteh | but I guess you wouldn't know that |
| 09:13.52 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 09:13.59 | haste | LIKE A BOSS! |
| 09:14.06 | jnwhiteh | either way, I'd appreciate you not bad-mouth it when you don't own the book and take advantage of the free reference we provide |
| 09:14.31 | karl_w_w | haven't bad mouthed anything |
| 09:14.41 | jnwhiteh | <karl_w_w:#wowuidev> wowprogramming is terrible for lua |
| 09:14.53 | jnwhiteh | rather misleading statement then, isn't it? |
| 09:15.07 | karl_w_w | he wasnt looking for websites that teach you lua |
| 09:15.15 | jnwhiteh | was or wasn't? |
| 09:15.21 | jnwhiteh | now I'm confused =) |
| 09:15.33 | karl_w_w | i mean |
| 09:15.34 | karl_w_w | was* |
| 09:16.58 | jnwhiteh | alright, thanks for the clarification. |
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| 09:57.19 | Fisker | hello jnwhiteh |
| 09:58.08 | haste | hello Fisker |
| 10:25.27 | Fisker | i puked haste |
| 10:26.52 | Cairenn | You threw up an entire person? |
| 10:27.30 | Fisker | yep |
| 10:27.53 | Cairenn | That's rather impressive. Disgusting, but impressive. |
| 10:28.10 | Fisker | haste didn't like it either |
| 10:28.47 | Cairenn | I would imagine not |
| 10:29.42 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 10:29.47 | Fisker | is today a holiday for you guys too? |
| 10:33.34 | Cairenn | wooohooo, finally got killed by Deathwing! |
| 10:33.42 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no |
| 10:42.00 | Fisker | oh ok jnwhiteh |
| 10:42.07 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 10:42.09 | Fisker | then i guess they should get my package today |
| 10:45.08 | Adys | Fisker: fucking hell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I |
| 10:45.10 | Adys | I dont get it |
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| 10:45.16 | Adys | why do OS designers do this? |
| 10:45.48 | Adys | I get it, i get the whole "moving to netbooks and smartphones" bit and all |
| 10:47.07 | Adys | urglglgl. this is plasma desktop for touchscreens. |
| 10:47.29 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:47.31 | jnwhiteh | i have no idea O.o |
| 10:48.51 | jnwhiteh | it actually seems like a nice tablet interface |
| 10:48.55 | Adys | yes |
| 10:48.56 | Adys | exactly |
| 10:49.04 | Adys | why the fuck would they want to run it on desktops :/ |
| 10:49.19 | jnwhiteh | well, there's no indication that they do, from this video |
| 10:49.28 | jnwhiteh | oh God. |
| 10:49.28 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 10:49.30 | jnwhiteh | they do. |
| 10:49.31 | Adys | haha. |
| 10:49.39 | jnwhiteh | wtf,. |
| 10:49.44 | jnwhiteh | I DONT HAVE A TOUCH SCREEN YOU IDIOTS |
| 10:50.09 | jnwhiteh | its a slick tablet interface, honestly |
| 10:50.11 | jnwhiteh | but... |
| 10:50.29 | Adys | ive nothing against tablet interfaces, but OS designers keep moving to this "dynamic desktop" thing |
| 10:50.47 | Adys | it seems like every OS UXD has got their free ipad or something from their company |
| 10:50.53 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:51.02 | Adys | and they dont want to do twice the work anymore |
| 10:51.23 | Adys | i can see how in the next decade ish desktop computers won't really exist anymore |
| 10:51.27 | Adys | but we're NOWHERE NEAR that yet |
| 10:51.39 | A-KO | I agree with jnwhiteh |
| 10:51.53 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.53 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.53 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:51.57 | jnwhiteh | yay! |
| 10:52.06 | Cairenn | Why won't they? Until you can freely and easily upgrade laptop (etc.) components ... |
| 10:52.18 | Adys | 8.0K -rw-r--r-- 1 adys adys 7.7K 2011-06-01 12:41 out.tar.gz |
| 10:52.23 | A-KO | Anyone who thinks this "touch screen" is a good idea, try usingi t across dual 27" LCDs and see how quickly your arms get tired |
| 10:52.26 | Cairenn | As long as they remain "what you see is what you get" ... |
| 10:52.33 | Adys | Cairenn: im sure they'll still be here, but they'll be less frequent |
| 10:52.46 | Adys | Cairenn: Just look at adoption rates for smartphone vs desktop computers |
| 10:52.50 | Fisker | because theyh ave a touch screen and no keyboard or mouse Adys |
| 10:53.10 | Cairenn | Adys: I know, but you can't upgrade them as new tech comes out |
| 10:53.24 | Cairenn | you have to basically throw away your existing and get an entirely new one |
| 10:53.38 | Fisker | http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/121184-watson-autograf.jpg |
| 10:53.38 | Fisker | xD |
| 10:53.42 | Fisker | nsfw btw |
| 10:53.43 | Fisker | kinda |
| 10:54.05 | A-KO | Here's the deal, the reality is: A tablet is a tablet, a desktop is a desktop, a smart phone is a smart phone. As much as you want to "unify" the experience, the reality is you can't--because they're entirely different interfaces and used entirely differently. Just like the iOS interface is shit for car usage, you wouldn't/shouldn't use iOS for desktop. |
| 10:54.22 | Adys | Cairenn: But they're also much cheaper than an entire desktop computer; it's the same thing with laptops, if something breaks on your laptop odds are you're replacing the laptop |
| 10:54.23 | Fisker | ITT: We whine over optionals |
| 10:54.23 | Alram | you wouldnt download a car for gaming |
| 10:54.24 | A-KO | We've got tons of people at work that have iPads and iPad 2's. Some bought keyboards for them early on, but very quickly switched back to their laptops |
| 10:54.30 | A-KO | Fisker: it's *not* optional |
| 10:54.34 | Fisker | it is |
| 10:54.38 | A-KO | it *is* Windows 8's UI |
| 10:54.40 | Fisker | no |
| 10:55.09 | Alram | everyone gets it |
| 10:55.12 | Alram | but you can just use the normal crap |
| 10:55.27 | Alram | it clearly shows that in the video |
| 10:55.29 | A-KO | No, what it is, is this: "Explorer is an *app* in our Windows 8 UI, so you can still *switch* to Windows Explorer, but there's a strong chance the only way to access these new *apps* is to use the Windows 8 UI. Oh, and we took away desktop gadgets because we want you to use the weather app" |
| 10:55.55 | Cairenn | Adys: the problem with that philosophy is the whole "disposable society" and what it does to our environment |
| 10:55.55 | A-KO | ^^^ that's what it looks to me |
| 10:55.56 | Wobin | why is the man parachuting with his dog? =( |
| 10:56.09 | Adys | Cairenn: I dont agree with the philosophy, I merely state it :P |
| 10:56.15 | Cairenn | Adys: I know |
| 10:56.29 | A-KO | "Oh, and the only way to access Windows Media Player is to use the Windows 8 UI" |
| 10:56.32 | Cairenn | I'm just pointing out reasons why I think that we will (hopefully) not go entirely that route |
| 10:56.45 | Adys | more money for the middle man |
| 10:56.47 | A-KO | "And look at all these fancy new things we're doing in Windows 8, oh, and to get to those, just swipe to the left of the screen and *bam*" |
| 10:56.56 | Cairenn | and THAT is the reason that we will =/ |
| 10:56.58 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 10:57.06 | Adys | we already do |
| 10:57.11 | Cairenn | yup |
| 10:57.12 | Adys | it'll just be on a larger scale |
| 10:57.17 | Cairenn | Yup |
| 10:57.19 | Cairenn | and it's sad |
| 10:57.38 | Adys | friend of mine replaced some transistor in a LCD. 10 bucks; I'd have replaced the whole thing in a heartbeat |
| 10:58.15 | Adys | took him a while to figure out what was wrong with it but on the scale its worth it |
| 10:58.20 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 10:58.43 | Adys | Cairenn: thing is also, touch screens are at the point where they're extremely slick and performant. and the whole desktop computer concept currently isn't too adapted to those |
| 10:58.53 | Cairenn | Aye |
| 11:01.05 | Adys | A-KO: re 27" LCDs. there are ways to counter that. Eg keeping the touch interface to a specific bottom block, and having the rest on-display |
| 11:01.42 | Adys | the current desktop design basically assumes monitors aren't touchscreens; they're not reachable otherwise and thats how the past 30 years worth of apps have been designed |
| 11:02.08 | Adys | there are ways to counter that though |
| 11:02.10 | A-KO | Adys: I'm sure there are ways to counter that--but that doesn't mean that's how it's going to work. Either way, again, you're not getting what I'm saying: It's not that I'm opposed to touch screens, it's that you're going to get *mighty tired* using one on a desktop. |
| 11:02.17 | A-KO | and it's only going to be a pain in the fucking ass to use a kb/mouse to do it |
| 11:02.40 | A-KO | I love my iPhone, and iOS, but I realize it won't translate well to a 20" LCD or something |
| 11:02.50 | A-KO | just like it doesn't translate well in a car |
| 11:02.55 | nevcairiel | I'm developer, i'm never giving up my keyboard, not punching in code using a on-screen keyboard |
| 11:02.57 | A-KO | it's good for a smart phone, because that's the interface it was designed for |
| 11:03.06 | Fisker | you will have to nevcairiel |
| 11:03.09 | Fisker | did you see the demo? |
| 11:03.15 | Fisker | When he touched a input field the keyboard popped up |
| 11:03.24 | Fisker | that must mean the physical keyboard gets disabled |
| 11:03.26 | A-KO | You're still not getting it Fisker- |
| 11:03.28 | Fisker | atleast i would say so |
| 11:03.29 | A-KO | you really aren't |
| 11:03.32 | Fisker | i really am |
| 11:03.34 | Fisker | you're just wrong |
| 11:03.36 | nevcairiel | probably because he just hasnt one connected |
| 11:03.42 | Fisker | no nevcairiel! |
| 11:04.06 | Adys | Fisker: I bet if you farted you couldn't match A-KO's current woosh |
| 11:04.30 | nevcairiel | dont dare him to fart |
| 11:04.31 | A-KO | nevcairiel: According to the video, Explorer exists as an "App" in the Windows 8 UI. What Fisker is trying to mock me for is the fact that I'm saying it's stupid, and he's saying "well, explorer is still there." -- Sure, explorer might still be there, but that doesn't mean they're not going to try to subtetly force you to use the "Apps" UI to do different things, such as a "landing" screen |
| 11:04.32 | A-KO | by default, and you have to "find the Explorer App" |
| 11:04.34 | Fisker | already did |
| 11:05.09 | A-KO | Or, as I stated earlier, move desktop gadgets (such as the Weather gadget) to the Apps UI |
| 11:05.09 | nevcairiel | isnt explorer already just an application |
| 11:05.21 | Adys | the fucking weather gadget |
| 11:05.23 | Adys | seriously |
| 11:05.30 | nevcairiel | i never use any widgets |
| 11:05.33 | Fisker | its loss will be mourned |
| 11:05.33 | nevcairiel | screw them |
| 11:05.40 | Adys | i never got that. either you're a caveman, never go out and dont care about the weather |
| 11:05.45 | Adys | or you can actually open a damn window |
| 11:06.08 | A-KO | Adys: I'm sorry, some of us spend most of our time indoors in an office building with little access to the outside except for lunch. |
| 11:06.16 | nevcairiel | i have a weather widget on my phone screen, though. Its useful to quickly decide wtf to wear in the morning without putting my hand outside first |
| 11:06.23 | nevcairiel | also, forecasts |
| 11:06.55 | Adys | A-KO: if your company building doesn't have a few windows on the walls, i'm pretty sure you could pass it as unhealthy environment |
| 11:07.07 | nevcairiel | we have windows, but they dont open |
| 11:07.18 | Adys | but then again, company buildings tend to have the damn walls made of windows |
| 11:07.19 | Adys | so meh |
| 11:07.32 | A-KO | Adys: It's not about seeing whether it's raining or sunny outside, it's a matter of knowing if it's too hot to walk to get lunch at further places versus nearer places, and deciding this before dragging everyone down 8 floors of an elevator. |
| 11:07.46 | Cairenn | I can't imagine not having a weather gadget on my desktop - the weather here is so variable, knowing just how hot/cold it is outside is vital |
| 11:07.57 | Cairenn | -10 and -40 look the same through windows |
| 11:08.06 | Adys | Cairenn: yeah; i get that when the weather is very variable |
| 11:08.22 | A-KO | Cairenn: well don't mind! Just use the handy dandy touch screen to "slide your weather app" to the left side of the screen so you can see it! ............................ |
| 11:08.32 | A-KO | ^ kind of the Windows 8 way |
| 11:08.47 | A-KO | that'll get annoying after a few uses |
| 11:08.49 | A-KO | novelty |
| 11:08.52 | nevcairiel | its not like you need to monitor the weather 24/7 on your desktop |
| 11:09.32 | A-KO | nevcairiel: as it stands right now I use windows key + spacebar and windows peak to the gadget and it's there--at any time of day, any time I want or need to look at it. |
| 11:09.32 | Cairenn | it's a little tiny graphic on the corner of my screen that just has the current temp, not like it's taking away massive amounts of screen real estate :p |
| 11:09.40 | Adys | Cairenn: yeah but thats fine |
| 11:09.47 | A-KO | not like thise windows 8 UI where you'd have to "slide the app across the screen" |
| 11:09.59 | Adys | thing i dont understand is those guys having a huge weather window taking half the screen |
| 11:10.01 | Cairenn | that would be frustrating, yes |
| 11:10.02 | Adys | and going crazy over that |
| 11:10.30 | Cairenn | loves her Weather Network widget |
| 11:11.03 | Adys | nevcairiel: re punching in code on touchscreen. i think the guys designing this stuff code in java all day |
| 11:11.09 | Adys | they're so used to CLICKING in order to code |
| 11:11.29 | nevcairiel | i code in java all day, and i still use my freaking keyboard. :P |
| 11:11.35 | nevcairiel | i dont see how that is related to the language |
| 11:11.37 | Adys | yeah but you're weird |
| 11:11.38 | Cairenn | I would hate having to do any sort of data input using touchscreen |
| 11:11.59 | Cairenn | whether coding or word processing or ... |
| 11:12.03 | Cairenn | *shudder* |
| 11:12.06 | haste | IRC!!!!!11 |
| 11:12.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 11:12.25 | Cairenn | yeah, that too ;) |
| 11:12.35 | nevcairiel | is just watched thatvideo, and he specifically said "they work fine with keyboard and mouse as well, of course" |
| 11:12.53 | Adys | Cairenn: I remember a few designs i drew as a kid in order to get more keyboard-like feedback on tactile surfaces |
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| 11:13.07 | Fisker | if you want to use it that is nevcairiel |
| 11:13.24 | Adys | Cairenn: never paid too much attention to them, thought they were silly, and a couple months ago I saw MS using two of them in their new phone OS |
| 11:13.45 | Adys | THEY'RE STEALING MY IDEAS, I DISLIKE THIS. |
| 11:13.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 11:15.31 | nevcairiel | i can see how that touch interface can be quite fun to use, as long as they keep the ability to use the classic desktop interface on desktops ... its not like everyone will suddenly have touch screens. :p |
| 11:16.23 | Cairenn | the only way I could see using a touch screen on my 'main' system would be if I had a desk where you insert the screen right into the desktop |
| 11:16.40 | Cairenn | (physical desktop) |
| 11:17.12 | Adys | Cairenn: MS tried to do that a few years ago, didnt they? |
| 11:17.20 | Adys | MS surface or something |
| 11:17.25 | nevcairiel | they have that tech, it looks kinda fun to use |
| 11:17.31 | nevcairiel | but only has some special use-cases |
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| 11:17.59 | Cairenn | dunno if MS did it, I just recall seeing images of an office where the monitors were actually inset into their desks |
| 11:18.10 | Cairenn | don't even recall when or where |
| 11:18.23 | Cairenn | but it was quite a while ago, they were CRTs |
| 11:18.36 | Cairenn | it was done for ergonomics |
| 11:18.45 | Adys | oh yeah, my school had those |
| 11:18.58 | nevcairiel | http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/purchaseprocess.aspx |
| 11:19.02 | nevcairiel | samsung is apparently building those |
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| 11:19.31 | Cairenn | now that I could almost see using, although I would miss the tactile feeling of the keyboard |
| 11:20.59 | Adys | Cairenn: a few designs i had to remedy that rely on touchscreens being maleable |
| 11:21.05 | Cairenn | nod |
| 11:21.21 | Adys | eg you have a large monitor split in half, lower half is "bumped", kind of like bubble-wrap |
| 11:21.46 | nevcairiel | wouldnt that obscure the image |
| 11:21.58 | Adys | as i said, the screen needs to be maleable |
| 11:22.07 | Adys | theres tech for it already but its still to expensive |
| 11:22.42 | Adys | +o |
| 11:22.51 | Cairenn | nod |
| 11:28.24 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2011/jun11/06-01corporatenews.aspx |
| 11:32.13 | karl_w_w | anyone think the interface looks really ugly and pointless? |
| 11:32.46 | karl_w_w | I mean, plain rectangles? Whatever will they think of next? |
| 11:33.29 | Adys | What's wrong with simplicity? |
| 11:33.31 | gsnerf | well it is the metro design they already used in win phone 7 |
| 11:33.41 | gsnerf | has proven to work quite nicely ^^ |
| 11:34.09 | Adys | the entire reason the UI annoys me is because it's too complex for a desktop design |
| 11:34.26 | Adys | it has entire blocks of features which are useless on most desktop devices |
| 11:34.43 | gsnerf | well thats why you're still able to enable the default desktop ;) |
| 11:35.03 | Adys | i dont care, you know; i dont use windows |
| 11:36.07 | gsnerf | it is obviously targeted at portable devices, like tablets so i guess it's a good design for that |
| 11:36.19 | Adys | which is my point... its not |
| 11:36.21 | gsnerf | we'll see if its really working or not when it's finished i guess |
| 11:36.23 | Adys | its targeted at everything |
| 11:36.30 | Adys | not just tablets |
| 11:36.40 | gsnerf | it will be available everywhere yes |
| 11:36.54 | gsnerf | it seems it will even be the default setting for everything as i understood |
| 11:37.07 | gsnerf | but its obviously not targeted at everything |
| 11:37.09 | Adys | yes. that makes it a target |
| 11:37.17 | Adys | "default setting on" = "target" |
| 11:37.40 | gsnerf | na its just plain laziness :D |
| 11:38.28 | Adys | im just sad everyone is scratching off the concept of the desktop and doing this new shit with pure-widget desktops |
| 11:38.38 | nevcairiel | that was just an early preview, dont judge it before you see its final version |
| 11:38.38 | Adys | oh, did I say everyone? I meant everyone EXCEPT GOOGLE. |
| 11:38.52 | Adys | nevcairiel: i judge it because this has plasma written all over it |
| 11:39.04 | gsnerf | pff yea, as if google would make it better with chromium... |
| 11:39.05 | airtonix | Cairenn: desktop touchscreen computing, when winterspring and ceilingcat are monitoring your habits and gesticulations... there is nothing to fear. |
| 11:39.06 | nevcairiel | nah, plasma is way uglier |
| 11:39.13 | Adys | gsnerf: wooooosh. |
| 11:39.15 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 11:40.38 | gsnerf | oh you don't have internet available where you're at with your laptop? well sorry can't use the damn thing as it depends on it :P |
| 11:40.47 | Adys | wow |
| 11:40.49 | Adys | triplewoosh dude |
| 11:40.58 | Adys | first of all i was talking about android |
| 11:41.22 | nevcairiel | doesnt android also have this widgety desktop |
| 11:41.28 | gsnerf | it does |
| 11:41.29 | Adys | second of all, chrome os isn't targeted at desktops at all. it's targeted at a very specific kind of devices |
| 11:41.37 | Adys | nevcairiel: yes and no |
| 11:41.44 | Adys | it has widgets, but so does everything |
| 11:41.56 | Adys | but it's going more towards icon-based desktop than widget-based |
| 11:42.14 | nevcairiel | widgets fill the desktop up way too fast |
| 11:42.16 | Adys | which is the opposite of what plasma, gnome, and now windows are doing |
| 11:42.17 | Adys | yup |
| 11:42.27 | Adys | i was in love the day google acquired bumptop |
| 11:42.28 | Cairenn | and third, you missed the entire beginning of the convo, thus don't have a lot of the context |
| 11:43.31 | Adys | bumptop had a lot of amazing ideas but it was just that... im really hoping android4 and then some will bring bumptop's ideas forward |
| 11:44.30 | airtonix | lol |
| 11:44.43 | Adys | what i loved most about them is their UI felt right on both touch and cursor based input |
| 11:44.52 | Wobin | what irritated me, actually, was the direct link to the MS store, on that video =P |
| 11:45.02 | Wobin | sif I'd have -that- on my desktop =P |
| 11:45.07 | airtonix | did you see Suns Looking Glass Project? |
| 11:45.20 | airtonix | it was before compiz was mainstreamed |
| 11:45.38 | airtonix | java based desktop compositing |
| 11:45.41 | Adys | I remember it yeah |
| 11:45.41 | airtonix | lulz |
| 11:45.45 | Adys | yeah like that would work out. |
| 11:46.05 | airtonix | it was trying to do what bumptop did and more |
| 11:46.38 | Adys | nobody got it right |
| 11:46.39 | airtonix | pity it was a) java, and b) a flimsy demo |
| 11:46.41 | Adys | for obvious reasons |
| 11:46.49 | Adys | it needs to be part of the OS |
| 11:47.09 | gsnerf | bumptop was that 3d desktop approach wasn't ? |
| 11:47.10 | Adys | which is what bumptop couldnt do at the time; now at google they can, i really hope theres going to be some hot juice out of that mix |
| 11:47.18 | Adys | gsnerf: yeah, ish |
| 11:47.25 | Adys | it 3d-ized an icon-based desktop |
| 11:47.32 | Adys | with mouse gestures and stuff |
| 11:48.24 | Fisker | Desktop should just die |
| 11:48.29 | Fisker | no point for it anyway |
| 11:48.32 | Adys | ICS fills a very nice role in making android fit both large and small screens |
| 11:48.38 | Fisker | other than have a pretty little wallpaper |
| 11:48.40 | Fisker | that can stay |
| 11:48.49 | gsnerf | well it seems it is fisker, wether we want to or not ;) |
| 11:49.29 | Adys | Cairenn: we really ought to put some kind of warning label on Fisker or something |
| 11:49.34 | Fisker | what is gsnerf ? |
| 11:49.52 | gsnerf | desktops dying ^^ |
| 11:49.55 | Cairenn | Adys: heh |
| 11:50.02 | gsnerf | *die |
| 11:50.06 | Cairenn | gsnerf: you're somewhat new to the channel, correct? |
| 11:50.21 | Fisker | well they serve little purpose today |
| 11:50.30 | gsnerf | a bit, but i already realized fiskers talking nonsense most of the time ;) |
| 11:50.39 | Cairenn | heh, okay |
| 11:50.42 | Fisker | windows button then typing in the application > pointing and clicking at an icon |
| 11:50.43 | Adys | gsnerf: what Cairenn wants you to know is that Fisker is an important part of this channel and you should follow his every word. |
| 11:50.53 | Cairenn | heh |
| 11:50.58 | gsnerf | :) |
| 11:51.32 | Fisker | that's actually the only nice part about unity |
| 11:51.45 | Fisker | if the feature just worked somewhat decently |
| 11:51.48 | Fisker | but it doesn't |
| 11:51.55 | gsnerf | hmm i thought i've downloaded bumptop when it was free just before closing but i guess i didn't or misplaced it |
| 11:51.56 | Adys | i know right? the design is nothing new |
| 11:51.57 | gsnerf | shame |
| 11:52.13 | Adys | window managers had that, kde has that with their kde launcher |
| 11:52.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Sliker (~ponies@87.113.207.247) |
| 11:52.36 | Adys | and nobody got it right, still |
| 11:52.56 | Adys | google didn't even try it out; they'd have gotten it right |
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| 11:53.00 | Adys | all it needs is a damn SEARCH BAR |
| 11:53.04 | Adys | how hard can it be |
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| 11:57.00 | airtonix | compiz scale plugin does it as well |
| 11:57.12 | Adys | i said wms do it |
| 11:57.18 | airtonix | so does your face |
| 11:57.31 | Jamash | SNAP |
| 11:57.36 | Adys | metacity and kwin dont; metacity because who-cares, and kwin because its done in the launcher |
| 11:58.16 | airtonix | and synapse has a window manager plugin that lets it list matching open windows |
| 11:58.35 | airtonix | i don't even open the applications menu anymore |
| 11:58.59 | airtonix | infact it's not even on any of my panels |
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| 12:01.55 | airtonix | Adys: quasseldroid |
| 12:02.29 | airtonix | http://blog.mfabrik.com/2011/03/28/quasseldroid-quassel-for-android-cross-platform-mobile-irc-client/ |
| 12:03.08 | airtonix | https://gitorious.org/quassel-mobile-proxy |
| 12:03.09 | Adys | Meh. |
| 12:03.12 | Adys | irc clients |
| 12:03.27 | Adys | thats another thing we'd be better off without |
| 12:03.39 | airtonix | your enthusiasim inspires others! |
| 12:04.00 | Wobin | airtonix: ooh ooh |
| 12:04.03 | Adys | i have my qt irc client branch |
| 12:04.07 | *** join/#wowuidev boshi23_ (~chris@c-68-36-33-236.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 12:04.15 | Wobin | that's... AWESOME |
| 12:04.18 | airtonix | hands Wobin a tissue |
| 12:04.20 | Adys | i want to work on it, but the more i think about it, the more I'd redesign it |
| 12:04.37 | Adys | i dont get it, whats so awesome about it? |
| 12:04.39 | Adys | andchat is fine |
| 12:04.59 | Wobin | it's the core |
| 12:05.08 | Wobin | I run a quassel core on my home netbook |
| 12:05.14 | Wobin | and connect to it from home and work |
| 12:05.27 | Wobin | being able to also connect from my phone would be grat |
| 12:05.31 | Wobin | great |
| 12:07.02 | Fisker | so it's an irc bouncer? |
| 12:12.32 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 12:12.36 | Fisker | help a brother out? |
| 12:17.50 | Wobin | Hm |
| 12:18.23 | Wobin | Haha! Mobile irc enabled! |
| 12:19.41 | Wobin | Fisker, it depends on what you define a irc bouncer as |
| 12:21.10 | Fisker | well yeah if i define it as a pile of manure then it probably isn't the same |
| 12:23.22 | Wobin | indeed |
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| 12:23.59 | Wobin | the core runs on a server, and connects to the network, and maintains the backlog of chat. The clients just log into the core, request the backlog, and send traffic through it |
| 12:24.37 | Wobin | iirsi with a lot of screens |
| 12:24.46 | Fisker | an irc bouncer is the same thing really |
| 12:32.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker-- (~ballmer@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk) |
| 12:32.44 | Fisker | client is kind of meh though |
| 12:32.57 | Fisker | but if it were like a standard bouncer any client would've been supported |
| 12:32.58 | Fisker | tsk tsk |
| 12:33.50 | Fisker-- | test |
| 12:33.54 | Fisker | Fisker-- |
| 12:34.08 | Fisker | Fisker-- |
| 12:35.37 | Wobin | Fisker: from what I'm reading, a bouncer doesn't actually keep backlog of the channel |
| 12:36.03 | Fisker-- | not as part of any standard no |
| 12:36.27 | Fisker-- | but the various bouncers out there do support it |
| 12:36.49 | Wobin | but the client would have to support that bouncer |
| 12:36.54 | Fisker-- | nope |
| 12:37.00 | Fisker-- | the client would have to support the IRC standard |
| 12:37.04 | Fisker-- | that's why it's so awesome |
| 12:37.11 | Fisker-- | i could use whatever client i want |
| 12:37.26 | Fisker-- | don't need to use Quassel and then be stuck with a Quassel-compatible client |
| 12:37.38 | Wobin | then what happens if you log into the bouncer from two machines? |
| 12:37.42 | Wobin | which one gets the backlog? |
| 12:38.14 | Wobin | I can see the bouncer just feeding a chunk of IRC traffic to a client, as backlog |
| 12:39.21 | Wobin | or, more to the point, what bouncers offer that sort of service? |
| 12:40.49 | nevcairiel | none, and if they do, you lose timestamps |
| 12:40.50 | Fisker- | aw damn |
| 12:40.58 | Fisker- | forgot to enable backlogs on this one |
| 12:41.39 | Fisker | actually looks like there was backlog on the status |
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| 12:41.43 | Fisker | but only one client got it |
| 12:41.44 | Fisker | so touché |
| 12:42.33 | Wobin | I admit, the client itself could use some work |
| 12:42.44 | Wobin | but it's sufficient for my needs =) |
| 12:42.47 | nevcairiel | i can close the client, reopen it, and scroll back through all backlog that ever existed, from any system i want, even from my android .. no other client beats that |
| 12:43.00 | Wobin | ^ |
| 12:43.13 | Fisker-- | yeah and basically no setup effort either |
| 12:43.20 | Fisker-- | so it's a great system |
| 12:44.15 | Lopeppeppy_ | cuddles up with Shirlock. Rawr. |
| 12:45.26 | Fisker-- | the biggest issue with the client is really a lack of any "Slap" button |
| 12:45.42 | Fisker-- | also i can't rightclick people in the chat |
| 12:45.57 | Wobin | yeah, have to go to the channel list |
| 12:50.25 | Fisker-- | Lopeppeppy_ |
| 12:52.05 | Wobin | haha, I can't wait til Literallyunbelievable get ahold of http://www.theonion.com/articles/prince-william-divorces-kate-middleton-after-5-wee,20648/ |
| 12:54.36 | Fisker | Fisker-- |
| 12:54.41 | Cairenn | not allowed to until after they come here for 1 July |
| 12:55.24 | Fisker | Fisker |
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| 12:55.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 12:55.45 | bluspacecow | wtf itunes ? so for this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVluNfg7rT8 it gives it this album art : http://store.veggietales.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/e/veggietunes-3.jpg |
| 12:56.13 | Wobin | perfect fit =P |
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| 12:58.21 | bluspacecow | you listened to the song wobin ? |
| 13:01.03 | Lopeppeppy_ | Yeah... and I thought it would be 9 1/2 weeks anyway. |
| 13:01.39 | bluspacecow | wot doin Peppy |
| 13:01.49 | Lopeppeppy_ | I really do enjoy this article. http://www.theonion.com/articles/planet-earth-doesnt-know-how-to-make-it-any-cleare,20639/ |
| 13:01.58 | Lopeppeppy_ | Heya, Blue-berry-bear. *hug* |
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| 13:03.10 | Fisker | bam |
| 13:03.24 | Wobin | bluspacecow: just the first part |
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| 13:04.43 | Fisker | nevcairiel you using quassel then? |
| 13:04.54 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 13:05.21 | Fisker | does it have variables for your name and such which can be used in the commands it executes on connect? |
| 13:06.04 | nevcairiel | dunno, all i need is auth, and i can do that without custom commands |
| 13:06.49 | Fisker | dicks |
| 13:08.02 | Wobin | it has very minimal documentation =( |
| 13:08.14 | Fisker | yeah |
| 13:08.38 | Fisker | actually fuck that |
| 13:09.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker- (~ballmer@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk) |
| 13:09.52 | Fisker- | actually not being able to tab through chats or go alt+x to go to the chat you want to go to is kinda bad too :( |
| 13:09.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:10.08 | Wobin | I mousewheel through them |
| 13:10.10 | nevcairiel | there are hotkeys for next and previous chat |
| 13:10.15 | nevcairiel | also, configurable hotkeys |
| 13:11.18 | jnwhiteh | I use znc |
| 13:11.22 | jnwhiteh | and it makes me happy in my pants |
| 13:11.36 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh my man |
| 13:11.43 | nevcairiel | thats just another bouncer |
| 13:11.51 | Fisker- | you into the "gifting me games on steam"-business? |
| 13:11.56 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: I can be |
| 13:12.14 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: what does this offer that a bouncer doesn't? |
| 13:12.31 | Fisker- | roh roh nevcairiel |
| 13:12.36 | Fisker- | is stupid |
| 13:12.42 | Fisker- | when you reach the end of the list you're out of luck |
| 13:13.06 | Wobin | "Quassel IRC is a modern, cross-platform, distributed IRC client based on the Qt4 framework. Distributed means that one (or multiple) client(s) can attach to and detach from a central core that stays permanently online -- much like the popular combination of screen and a text-based IRC client such as WeeChat, and similar to (but much more featureful than) so-called BNCs. Re-attaching your client will show your IRC session in the same state |
| 13:13.06 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.19 | nevcairiel | full database backed backlog, with perfect integration in the client (it just looks like you never missed any line) |
| 13:13.32 | jnwhiteh | ah, that is nice. |
| 13:13.33 | Fisker- | Are logs saved on the server btw? |
| 13:13.34 | nevcairiel | once you've used that for a while, you dont want to go back |
| 13:13.39 | jnwhiteh | there's a new cloud-based solution to this as well |
| 13:13.39 | Wobin | Fisker: yes |
| 13:13.50 | jnwhiteh | https://irccloud.com/ |
| 13:13.53 | nevcairiel | in sqlite or postgresql |
| 13:14.04 | nevcairiel | someone was working on a mysql backend as well some time ago |
| 13:14.08 | nevcairiel | no idea where that went |
| 13:14.21 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.34 | jnwhiteh | in http://quassel-irc.org/node/104 what is that bottom window? |
| 13:15.11 | Fisker- | i think the top one is the chat monitor |
| 13:15.16 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: a different channel? |
| 13:15.21 | Wobin | oh |
| 13:15.25 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker- | The top is chat monitor the bottom is current channel |
| 13:15.30 | nevcairiel | the bottom is the normal channel view, the top is the "chat monitor" which you can configure to show an aggregate of different channels, or just highlights, or stuff like that |
| 13:15.33 | nevcairiel | i never used it. :p |
| 13:15.41 | jnwhiteh | I coulodn't live without it. |
| 13:15.48 | jnwhiteh | the non-focus window in Limechat and friends is an absolute musrt. |
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| 13:16.46 | Fisker- | what really annoys me is that i can't get a channel bar instead of the channel list |
| 13:16.56 | airtonix | yeah i use the chat monitor in quassel quite a bit |
| 13:17.00 | Wobin | irccloud looks suitably web 2.0ish =) |
| 13:17.07 | jnwhiteh | indeed =) |
| 13:17.11 | bluspacecow | zomg |
| 13:17.18 | bluspacecow | 2 fiskers |
| 13:17.21 | bluspacecow | 1 green |
| 13:17.24 | Fisker- | there were 3 a minute ago |
| 13:17.26 | bluspacecow | 1 warrior tank brown |
| 13:17.39 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 13:17.40 | bluspacecow | yay |
| 13:17.43 | Fisker | :) |
| 13:17.49 | airtonix | kills Fisker |
| 13:18.07 | airtonix | uspeechlessbro |
| 13:18.08 | Wobin | although, being a subscription based thing... |
| 13:18.13 | Fisker | test |
| 13:18.16 | Fisker | æ |
| 13:18.20 | mitch0 | you failed |
| 13:18.21 | Wobin | will try it if he gets an invite |
| 13:18.38 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: Tom did. |
| 13:18.40 | jnwhiteh | so *shrug* |
| 13:19.00 | Kraps | http://www.tout.com/m/9944wo |
| 13:19.11 | airtonix | more gawker Kraps? |
| 13:19.34 | airtonix | using fiendishly crafted urls to fool us? |
| 13:20.07 | jnwhiteh | does the core require QT as well? |
| 13:20.10 | jnwhiteh | that sucks, if so. |
| 13:20.17 | Wobin | hehe, I like Shaq |
| 13:20.24 | Kraps | for you, airtonix http://jezebel.com/5807760/jennifer-lopezs-honeymoon-booty-video-coming-to-a-porn-site-near-you |
| 13:21.24 | bluspacecow | i wonder if he makes it interesting by getting naked |
| 13:21.54 | airtonix | this is too personal |
| 13:21.54 | jnwhiteh | CMake Error at cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake:1257 (MESSAGE): Qt qmake not found! |
| 13:21.57 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 13:22.01 | Fisker | anyway jnwhiteh |
| 13:22.06 | Fisker | i need you to gift gaems |
| 13:22.07 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 13:22.11 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: pm me |
| 13:22.13 | jnwhiteh | and tell me |
| 13:22.14 | Wobin | how tall is he compared to his girl? |
| 13:22.32 | airtonix | twice |
| 13:22.45 | Kraps | X-Men: First Class is at 92% on rotten tomatoes, pretty nice |
| 13:22.50 | airtonix | i had to double check she wasn't kneeling |
| 13:23.04 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: it was a a good movie |
| 13:23.13 | airtonix | "was" |
| 13:23.42 | airtonix | http://xkcd.com/891/ |
| 13:23.57 | Wobin | airtonix: hahah, same |
| 13:26.15 | Kraps | http://gizmodo.com/5807615/windows-8-and-its-incredibly-cool-new-touch-interface |
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| 13:28.34 | Wobin | wait, gizmodo stopped using hash redirects? =P |
| 13:29.04 | foxlit | lua> return assert(true, "et tu, error message?") |
| 13:29.04 | lua_bot | foxlit: true, et tu, error message? |
| 13:29.06 | Kraps | looks like all of gawker did |
| 13:29.22 | Wobin | thank god |
| 13:30.15 | Kraps | touch screens are cool, but how many personal computers support that? |
| 13:30.38 | Wobin | eh |
| 13:30.49 | Wobin | I don't want to put greasy fingerprints all over my monitor =P |
| 13:31.03 | Wobin | at least, with my phone, I can polish them off with my tshirt |
| 13:32.57 | Fisker | doesn't seem to be very active in developement either |
| 13:32.57 | Fisker | Quassel that is |
| 13:34.43 | jnwhiteh | You've managed to distract me quite a bit today, you bitches. |
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| 13:36.00 | Kraps | "Bloom has finally been confirmed to reprise the role of Legolas in Jackson's The Hobbit" |
| 13:36.18 | bluspacecow | how now brown cow |
| 13:36.19 | airtonix | lulz |
| 13:36.31 | bluspacecow | @jnwhiteh I love you dear |
| 13:36.42 | bluspacecow | now make me TomTom for Minecraft. Stat ! |
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| 13:36.49 | airtonix | why |
| 13:37.01 | bluspacecow | cause i gets losts |
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| 13:38.19 | airtonix | why |
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| 13:38.52 | airtonix | there is already a minimap addon for minecraft |
| 13:38.57 | airtonix | inb4rage |
| 13:39.30 | bluspacecow | but i want a big green arrow above my guy |
| 13:39.39 | airtonix | noob |
| 13:40.13 | airtonix | btw |
| 13:40.18 | airtonix | zans minimap |
| 13:40.25 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8aIN2UYqSs |
| 13:42.19 | Ackis | I'm amused |
| 13:42.26 | Ackis | 07:34jnwhitehYou've managed to distract me quite a bit today, you bitches. |
| 13:42.28 | Ackis | then he quits |
| 13:42.31 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 13:42.38 | jnwhiteh | I was shutting down znc and going to qcore |
| 13:42.42 | jnwhiteh | to see if I like it. |
| 13:42.50 | Parnic | fisker |
| 13:42.51 | airtonix | you won't |
| 13:42.52 | Guest96722 | the interface is pretty shit, I'd rather connect withmy own client |
| 13:42.52 | Ackis | imposter |
| 13:43.02 | Guest96722 | blarg, brb. |
| 13:43.05 | airtonix | l2qss |
| 13:43.13 | Fisker | Parnic |
| 13:43.17 | Fisker | you're so fired |
| 13:43.18 | Parnic | what was i wrong about? |
| 13:44.38 | Fisker | First Access Club Alert: Surprise! Free Multiplayer Add-On Pack |
| 13:44.39 | Fisker | :P |
| 13:45.08 | Parnic | it was a surprise to us too |
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| 13:45.36 | airtonix | really? |
| 13:45.43 | Ackis | jnwhiteh_: someone was just on here impersonating you man |
| 13:45.44 | Kraps | OMG http://vimeo.com/23641625 |
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| 13:46.00 | airtonix | that's like saying OMFG the bin is full. WHAT A SURPRISE!!!!1111onepony |
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| 13:46.19 | Fisker | i once shot a guy |
| 13:46.20 | Ackis | jnwhiteh_: who so quitting and being impersonated? |
| 13:46.22 | Fisker | that was a surprise too |
| 13:46.46 | jnwhiteh_ | hrm |
| 13:46.51 | jnwhiteh_ | freenode/something wont' let me be my normal user |
| 13:47.03 | Ackis | *** jnwhiteh is now known as Guest96722 |
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| 13:47.05 | jnwhiteh_ | Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable: jnwhiteh |
| 13:47.07 | mikma | normal jimmy |
| 13:47.17 | Ackis | that might be why jnwhiteh_ |
| 13:47.29 | Jamash | can't ghost it? |
| 13:47.51 | Jamash | oh I see |
| 13:47.58 | jnwhiteh_ | confusing. let's try this another way =) |
| 13:48.13 | Wobin | Kraps: the man has skills |
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| 13:49.21 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap jnwhiteh_ |
| 13:49.21 | purl | ACTION slaps jnwhiteh_ around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 13:49.52 | mckenziemc | i Fiskered him out of the room O.o |
| 13:49.56 | Fisker | mckenziemc :( |
| 13:50.00 | Fisker | i don't have slaps on this client |
| 13:50.22 | Fisker | so right now i'm installing trying to compile from source |
| 13:50.32 | Fisker | is like open source and shiznit |
| 13:51.03 | Fisker | i love UK's Royal Mail tracking service |
| 13:51.07 | Fisker | look at the verbose output: |
| 13:51.08 | Fisker | Status:In progress |
| 13:51.14 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 13:51.37 | mckenziemc | better tracking is premium |
| 13:51.43 | Ackis | http://hellgate.t3fun.com/News/Notice_View.aspx?post_key=5 :D :D :D |
| 13:51.53 | Fisker | i wish mckenziemc |
| 13:52.07 | Fisker | is my sub still valid Ackis ? |
| 13:52.07 | Fisker | :D |
| 13:52.32 | mckenziemc | no, your sub sank |
| 13:52.41 | mckenziemc | i torpedoed it |
| 13:53.11 | Ackis | Fisker: I doubt it, new game and all, new company too |
| 13:53.26 | Kraps | lol @ the saucy jokes in cars 2 |
| 13:53.31 | Fisker | i remember being such a diablo fanboy Ackis |
| 13:53.40 | Fisker | i was like "OMG OMG I GOTTA GET THE UNLIMITED SUB" |
| 13:53.47 | Fisker | a few months later, well that sucks |
| 13:54.07 | Ackis | it was disappointing it closed, I really enjoyed that game |
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| 13:55.44 | jnwhiteh | Much better =) |
| 13:55.50 | jnwhiteh | that was obnoxious |
| 13:55.55 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u |
| 13:56.04 | bluspacecow | jnwhite? |
| 13:56.07 | bluspacecow | make me a sammich > |
| 13:56.17 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: someone was in here impersonating you |
| 13:56.23 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I got it, thanks =) |
| 13:57.03 | Ackis | remember that time I broke cogwheel's minecraft? |
| 13:57.59 | Fisker | We wanted to let you know that we received your return for your order and our returns department is now processing it. |
| 13:58.00 | Fisker | :O |
| 13:58.28 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: ? |
| 13:58.41 | Fisker | the eee pad they sent that was warstomped |
| 13:58.51 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxGH_W_Cq1E&feature=player_detailpage#t=0s |
| 13:59.20 | Wobin | Fisker: Processing the .. parts =P |
| 13:59.35 | jnwhiteh | Is there a way in this client to move the chat monitor to below my text input (so the main channel is on top, then input, then monitor)? |
| 13:59.38 | Fisker | yeah Wobin |
| 13:59.53 | Fisker | i'm actually quite annoyed about sending it back |
| 14:00.12 | Fisker | pieces of plastic and glass and god knows what was spreading from that box |
| 14:00.42 | Fisker | pretty sure if i had told the post services what it contained that they would've refused it :P |
| 14:03.16 | Fisker | also looks like the eee pad transformer was pretty popular :P |
| 14:03.23 | Kraps | haha "discover the reason we never went back" http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CSb6vP7pBls |
| 14:03.25 | Fisker | they got in stock most places here yesterday |
| 14:03.28 | Fisker | they're sold out again :o |
| 14:03.36 | Fisker | and i believe atleast one of them had 200 in stock |
| 14:04.15 | mckenziemc | i bought 150 yesterday |
| 14:05.25 | Kraps | what, and people are thinking the movie is serious |
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| 14:07.33 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 14:07.42 | airtonix | the truth is out there |
| 14:07.52 | Kraps | because of the description :) |
| 14:07.57 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: yes |
| 14:08.01 | Kraps | "What you are about to see is the actual footage which the astronauts captured on that mission. While NASA denies its authenticity, others say it's the real reason we've never gone back to the moon." |
| 14:08.08 | Wobin | drag on the left bar next to the window of the monitor |
| 14:08.12 | Kraps | epic troll |
| 14:08.28 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: I'm trying, I've done that when I drag it to below the input window I can't get it to slot into place. |
| 14:09.08 | jnwhiteh | I can merge it with the inputline, or put it to the left/right of it. |
| 14:09.30 | jnwhiteh | got it, finally =) |
| 14:09.30 | Wobin | try with the window not maximised |
| 14:09.59 | jnwhiteh | I should write my own client, or add quassel support to Limechat =/ |
| 14:10.22 | airtonix | i believe |
| 14:10.56 | mckenziemc | i don't |
| 14:13.37 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/9P6c8.jpg |
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| 14:15.04 | Wobin | I don't think Natalie Portman is quite hispanic enough =P |
| 14:16.18 | jnwhiteh | yeah this is just a bouncer with playback |
| 14:16.33 | jnwhiteh | which I already had, but we'll see how I feel when I log in at home |
| 14:17.34 | Fisker | no jnwhiteh |
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| 14:17.41 | Fisker | you should add to the awesomeness of Quassel |
| 14:17.42 | nevcairiel | btw, you can completely skin the client using some kind of css derivate, well at least color wise, i couldnt stand the default skin |
| 14:17.51 | jnwhiteh | the default is hideous. |
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| 14:18.33 | Fisker | quassel looks just like limechat except with different fonts and colors |
| 14:18.42 | jnwhiteh | yeah.. not in the least |
| 14:18.48 | jnwhiteh | limechat has a very simple native interface |
| 14:18.53 | jnwhiteh | quassel is a clunky qt-based one |
| 14:19.13 | sylvanaar_work | limechat on iphone? |
| 14:19.53 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar_work: no, just Limechat |
| 14:20.13 | sylvanaar_work | oh |
| 14:20.24 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36PaHUqu_Pk&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:20.34 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: umadbro |
| 14:20.44 | bluspacecow | bromadu ? |
| 14:20.57 | bluspacecow | orbdamu ? |
| 14:21.09 | Wobin | "and also ungrade you armer also like what Batman can do." |
| 14:21.47 | airtonix | ok |
| 14:21.59 | airtonix | how do i ungrade shit |
| 14:22.23 | Kraps | haha Wobin, epic |
| 14:23.00 | Wobin | Kraps: I dunno, her face is so immobile |
| 14:23.23 | Wobin | and the awesome costume is not as awesome when she doesn't actually wear the goggles as goggles =P |
| 14:24.20 | Wobin | I do like that version of her costume though, it's one of the better ones |
| 14:24.22 | Kraps | i think shes only playable in arena mode or whatever, so she needed loss facial work probably |
| 14:24.58 | Kraps | s/loss/less |
| 14:25.26 | Wobin | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CE9KcdLnrWI/TWitPSRa95I/AAAAAAAADaU/aW4pk7tJskw/s1600/catwo-whip.jpg |
| 14:25.41 | Wobin | much more practical boots too =P |
| 14:30.40 | Ackis | http://holykaw.alltop.com/school-superintendent-requests-school-be-turn |
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| 14:33.35 | Fisker | anyway jnwhiteh |
| 14:33.37 | Fisker | just do it |
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| 14:34.34 | mckenziemc | do Fisker |
| 14:35.25 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
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| 14:35.56 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 14:36.22 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC5sbdvnvQM&feature=youtu.be |
| 14:36.24 | bluspacecow | lolz |
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| 14:37.33 | bluspacecow | "What the wife selects on her console will be paid for by the husband at his counterpart console" |
| 14:37.39 | bluspacecow | still true today |
| 14:37.45 | Kraps | poor chell, PTSD and being unable to acclimate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NorZUFfpvC0&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:38.30 | Wobin | I like the instant written communication machine |
| 14:38.53 | bluspacecow | we have that |
| 14:38.57 | bluspacecow | its called isketch :D |
| 14:39.04 | bluspacecow | its used to draw penises mostly |
| 14:39.18 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 14:39.19 | Fisker | love me |
| 14:39.44 | bluspacecow | *inserts tongue in Fisker's ear* |
| 14:39.55 | Fisker | btw i lol'd |
| 14:39.58 | Fisker | mount QQ |
| 14:40.03 | Fisker | that took longer than i expected |
| 14:40.11 | Fisker | "why dont you do something useful and make a ingame award system where upon the long time players get rare mounts rare pets etc but like i known you wont you rather sell them to get more money !!!!!!!" |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker | They do, it's called playing the game. |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:40.21 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 14:40.32 | bluspacecow | a biz making money for its stock holders |
| 14:40.34 | bluspacecow | shock horror |
| 14:40.36 | bluspacecow | IMHO |
| 14:40.45 | bluspacecow | they made more money in 2-3 days off that mount |
| 14:40.59 | bluspacecow | then what they lost from subscribers (re: conf call) |
| 14:41.30 | Fisker | only thing that is unacceptable is charging for the real id invites thingy |
| 14:41.31 | Wobin | hehe betamax |
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| 14:42.08 | airtonix | ragequit |
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| 14:45.47 | Fisker | tsk |
| 14:46.05 | Fisker | Microsoft should remember to update their witty remarks on ietestdrive.com |
| 14:46.15 | Wobin | Kraps: that was pretty cool |
| 14:46.35 | airtonix | bluspacecow: doesn't have robots, so not about the future |
| 14:46.45 | Wobin | Kraps: although I didn't quite understand it =P |
| 14:47.17 | Fisker | i like how i apparently installed wireshark today |
| 14:47.25 | airtonix | did you |
| 14:47.30 | Fisker | apparently |
| 14:47.50 | airtonix | who says? |
| 14:48.17 | Fisker | windows |
| 14:48.44 | airtonix | virus imo |
| 14:49.19 | Fisker | no |
| 14:49.23 | airtonix | you should uninstall windows |
| 14:49.40 | Fisker | i should fuck you |
| 14:49.51 | airtonix | bit hard from the other side of the world |
| 14:50.29 | mckenziemc | they did say cross-realm invites were just one feature of the premium thing didn't they? |
| 14:50.31 | mckenziemc | but still |
| 14:50.59 | airtonix | how does that make you feel? |
| 14:51.04 | mckenziemc | that's a fixed cost thing that shouldn't be handled as a premium charge :( |
| 14:51.13 | mckenziemc | if a cost at all |
| 14:51.35 | airtonix | i predict you won't be able to speak in /2 unless you subsribe to premium account |
| 14:51.43 | mckenziemc | airtonix |
| 14:51.47 | mckenziemc | enough of teh stupidity |
| 14:52.05 | bluspacecow | they said aspects of it would be avaliable as premiumim services |
| 14:52.05 | airtonix | or pick up daily quests |
| 14:52.08 | Fisker | i think it'll be part of the wow remote mckenziemc |
| 14:52.11 | bluspacecow | did say anything about charging for it |
| 14:52.17 | Fisker | they'll probably just rename it WoW Super Duper Premium time |
| 14:52.35 | Fisker | actually sai |
| 14:52.41 | Fisker | actually they said |
| 14:52.43 | airtonix | sures Fisker for copyright infringement |
| 14:52.45 | Fisker | Invites will cost |
| 14:52.50 | airtonix | i might also sue you |
| 14:52.50 | Fisker | recieving them wont |
| 14:52.52 | Fisker | ~fin |
| 14:52.52 | purl | well, fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 14:52.53 | jnwhiteh | I played my first Protoss ladder match yesterday |
| 14:53.00 | jnwhiteh | didn't go so well, but it wasn't terrible |
| 14:53.01 | Fisker | no purl |
| 14:53.05 | bluspacecow | Nah fisker |
| 14:53.08 | airtonix | ~pgl |
| 14:53.09 | purl | rumour has it, pgl is the coauthor of prat, and so much more. Better known as fin, but don't check ~fin. |
| 14:53.13 | bluspacecow | they're call it |
| 14:53.26 | Wobin | ~fin |
| 14:53.26 | purl | i guess fin is Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 14:53.33 | bluspacecow | Super Happy Super Duper Super Happy Buttfun time Prem. Service |
| 14:53.42 | sylvanaar_work | i miss fin |
| 14:53.43 | Lopeppeppy_ | *snark* |
| 14:53.55 | Fisker | oh ok bluspacecow |
| 14:53.57 | mckenziemc | unless blizz makes the invite function protected, someone could set up a matchmaker account, give people free group-forming as long as that account is logged in D: |
| 14:54.14 | mckenziemc | might be a way to protest :p |
| 14:54.29 | Fisker | they would have to be friends all of them :P |
| 14:54.46 | mckenziemc | temporary /friend ing |
| 14:54.58 | Fisker | then it wouldn't be cross server |
| 14:55.13 | mckenziemc | we don't know how it'll work |
| 14:55.16 | Fisker | we do |
| 14:55.21 | mckenziemc | but i'm speaking figuratively |
| 14:55.25 | airtonix | we know everything |
| 14:55.27 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FV9ZF621uc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL |
| 14:55.35 | Fisker | your real id friends will have a new option to be invited |
| 14:55.36 | Fisker | ~fin |
| 14:55.36 | purl | fin is, like, Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
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| 14:55.39 | Fisker | and no purl |
| 14:55.44 | mckenziemc | battle.net friending wouldn't be significantly different |
| 14:55.44 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 14:55.50 | Lopeppeppy_ | Heya, Seerah! |
| 14:55.58 | Seerah | hiya! |
| 14:56.01 | Fisker | it would since you have to send requests and accept them |
| 14:56.18 | mckenziemc | read: "significantly" |
| 14:56.25 | mckenziemc | an addon can still do it, which is my point |
| 14:56.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | No way, there I was, at the new "state of the art" McDonalds that opened in my town. I just... *sigh* |
| 14:56.33 | mckenziemc | i did not mean "/friend" literally |
| 14:56.36 | mckenziemc | think outside the box |
| 14:56.46 | Fisker | since when can an addon add, accept and remove real id friends? |
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| 14:57.21 | mckenziemc | since it was implemented |
| 14:57.29 | mckenziemc | idk if it's protected or not |
| 14:57.32 | airtonix | powned? |
| 14:57.35 | mckenziemc | but there are still ways around that |
| 14:57.39 | mckenziemc | as i said, think outside the box |
| 14:57.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | They're using phrases like "curb appeal", "hard wood floors", and two drive through lanes to keep the college kids fed at 3am. |
| 14:57.51 | airtonix | it's a vacum outside the box |
| 14:58.01 | Fisker | Yeah think outside the box as in outside the realm of possibility or legality |
| 14:58.02 | Fisker | ok |
| 14:58.07 | mckenziemc | you know that "one action per window" rule? |
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| 14:58.20 | mckenziemc | use a key multiplexer |
| 14:58.32 | Fisker | it's not a rule |
| 14:58.44 | airtonix | it's an interpol law |
| 14:59.00 | Fisker | Multiboxing is fully endorsed by Blizzard |
| 14:59.04 | airtonix | enforcable by deathsquad and black van gaffle teams |
| 14:59.12 | Fisker | you might be confusing it with one hardware event per action |
| 14:59.27 | mckenziemc | not confusing |
| 14:59.32 | mckenziemc | that's what i'm talking about |
| 14:59.32 | Fisker | and bypassing that, nomatter how it's done, is not allowed |
| 14:59.40 | mckenziemc | i'm not talking about bypassing it |
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| 15:00.26 | alestane | Sounds like the marketing machine grinds on, Lopeppeppy_. |
| 15:01.50 | Fisker | i just had a great idea airtonix |
| 15:02.10 | Fisker | lets reverse engineer WoW from client to server and remake our own content |
| 15:02.15 | Fisker | then we add real id to it |
| 15:02.20 | Fisker | and let people invite from other servers for free |
| 15:02.25 | Fisker | is that outside the box? |
| 15:02.34 | mckenziemc | no |
| 15:02.38 | Fisker | oh :( |
| 15:02.46 | mckenziemc | because that's clearly not allowed |
| 15:02.48 | Lopeppeppy_ | alestane, it's... icky. Just icky. |
| 15:03.02 | Fisker | Allowed in which sense mckenziemc ? |
| 15:03.33 | mckenziemc | private server, and unauthorized access of the realid system |
| 15:03.40 | alestane | The restaurant itself, or the marketing miasma they wrapped it in? (or, "yes", of course.) |
| 15:04.00 | Fisker | "private server" would in this case be as much a private server as the official rift server is a private server |
| 15:04.11 | Fisker | and i wasn't talking about Blizzard's Real ID system but one of our own |
| 15:04.31 | ZorbaBeta | I'm going to make my own wow |
| 15:04.31 | Fisker | also bypassing the one hardware event to one function rule is not allowed either |
| 15:04.34 | ZorbaBeta | with blackjack, and hookers |
| 15:04.39 | ZorbaBeta | in fact, forget the wow! and the blackjack. |
| 15:04.40 | mckenziemc | indeed |
| 15:04.42 | mckenziemc | but again |
| 15:04.55 | mckenziemc | i'm not talking about bypassing one hardware event to one function rule |
| 15:05.08 | Fisker | you haven't explained what you are talking about yet |
| 15:05.17 | airtonix | does that matter |
| 15:05.30 | Fisker | of course not airtonix |
| 15:05.34 | Fisker | i'm right, he's wrong |
| 15:05.38 | Fisker | he's just being a dick about it :) |
| 15:05.53 | airtonix | man you're a jserk |
| 15:05.57 | Fisker | it's ok |
| 15:06.05 | Fisker | winners can be jerks, jersks and even dicks |
| 15:06.09 | mckenziemc | i have Fisker, you're just stuck inside the box |
| 15:06.31 | Fisker | you haven't mckenziemc and i definitely went far outside the box just before |
| 15:07.05 | mckenziemc | you stayed inside the whole time |
| 15:07.15 | Fisker | Infact the only way you can go further outside the box is developing WoW + server for quantum computers |
| 15:07.26 | Fisker | i got an idea |
| 15:07.48 | airtonix | collider + wow = ??? |
| 15:08.07 | Kraps | meh, i called cablevision but the cablemodem glitch didnt happen |
| 15:08.27 | Fisker | actually i got a great idea airtonix |
| 15:08.36 | Fisker | i'll create a box containing a parralel universe |
| 15:08.46 | Fisker | in which universe i'll create a quantum computer that runs wow |
| 15:08.58 | Fisker | and then i'll create my own wow + server and offer real id invites for free |
| 15:09.09 | Fisker | that is thinking outside the box |
| 15:11.01 | airtonix | i would just stop playing wow |
| 15:11.18 | Fisker | don't be so closeminded man |
| 15:11.39 | Kraps | Ackis: hey! |
| 15:11.45 | airtonix | my horizons open since Fisker |
| 15:12.15 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh you don't know what you got yourself into |
| 15:12.41 | airtonix | you are not prepared |
| 15:13.00 | *** join/#wowuidev stew_a (~Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
| 15:13.05 | Fisker | the other UK guy i used to have gifts gifted from disappeared all of the sudden |
| 15:13.12 | jnwhiteh | well, I'm good at ignoring people. |
| 15:13.15 | airtonix | i killed him |
| 15:13.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:13.26 | jnwhiteh | but I'm not bothered right now |
| 15:13.33 | airtonix | what about now? |
| 15:13.38 | mckenziemc | i just heard the radio announcer say something about "3rd Annual Toilet Paper Run" O.o |
| 15:13.55 | Fisker | how else can i fund my Steam games OCD jnwhiteh ? |
| 15:14.27 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Fisker |
| 15:16.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@ool-4572cb11.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 15:16.54 | Kraps | GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 15:19.06 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 15:19.10 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 15:19.13 | airtonix | you should run a ssh server |
| 15:19.16 | airtonix | on port 2 |
| 15:19.18 | airtonix | 2 |
| 15:19.30 | airtonix | and only require password based access |
| 15:20.35 | Fisker | oh ok airtonix |
| 15:20.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Sapu (~Sapu94@24-205-239-250.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 15:21.05 | airtonix | "professional" people tell me it's secure and not a point of failure |
| 15:21.13 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 15:21.58 | airtonix | of course this is the same "professional" people that come to a meeting ttrying to place blame without bringing server logs |
| 15:22.27 | airtonix | "oh sorry, no server logs? again? ... fuck off" |
| 15:24.18 | Fisker | Actually the security itself is relatively unharmed, but it's a stupid thing to do regardless |
| 15:24.40 | Fisker | It's like where i was last |
| 15:24.55 | Fisker | they pretty much insisted on using the administrator account in Windows |
| 15:25.18 | Fisker | the rights isn't as much an issue as it is figuring out who abused it/messed up |
| 15:26.00 | Fisker | And then the password got leaked |
| 15:26.21 | airtonix | who the fuck gave birth to these rejects? |
| 15:26.21 | Fisker | fortunately they didn't realize what to do with it rather than getting past the user restrictions on the desktop |
| 15:26.29 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:27.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (~caleb@178.48.162.10) |
| 15:27.16 | airtonix | "Hi I have a university degree, everything i say is the word of God" |
| 15:29.24 | mckenziemc | you will die now |
| 15:29.47 | mckenziemc | told you :p |
| 15:30.04 | airtonix | now for something completley different |
| 15:30.06 | airtonix | https://github.com/nickmartini/dongml/blob/master/README |
| 15:31.01 | airtonix | Fisker: umadbrah? |
| 15:31.13 | airtonix | btw ^ nsfw |
| 15:31.16 | mckenziemc | hello airtonix's replacement clone |
| 15:33.00 | Fisker | i don't think so airtonix |
| 15:33.14 | airtonix | i'm quite sure it's not safe for work |
| 15:34.54 | mckenziemc | no, he's saying he doesn't think so airtonix, ergo he thinks less airtonix |
| 15:35.20 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/diabetic2.jpg |
| 15:39.54 | airtonix | typical |
| 15:39.58 | airtonix | and iphone user |
| 15:40.54 | Ackis | not exactly good marketing IMO |
| 15:42.26 | airtonix | fairly typical of the braindead |
| 15:43.32 | mckenziemc | lol ackis |
| 15:43.44 | bluspacecow | http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/hjckx/newegg_stores_your_password_as_plaintext_or_using/ |
| 15:44.00 | bluspacecow | wtf new egg ? |
| 15:44.12 | Ackis | http://www.facebook.com/MountainDewWhiteOut/posts/133200906732445 it looks like the response was out of context a bit because of all the other comments on it |
| 15:44.44 | mckenziemc | protip: assume all websites store your password in plaintext |
| 15:48.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 15:49.01 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:49.50 | Ackis | hey Fisker http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/epic-fail-photos-beware-of-dog-fail.jpeg |
| 15:50.05 | bluspacecow | youtu.be/szOejQhKgX8 |
| 15:50.18 | bluspacecow | give that to cairenn when she awakens |
| 15:51.45 | Lopeppeppy_ | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 15:55.22 | mckenziemc | tranquilizes Lunessa |
| 15:55.26 | Lunessa | Morning Peppy. :) |
| 15:55.34 | Lunessa | goes back to sleep. |
| 15:56.00 | airtonix | bluspacecow: LAWL >>>> "I applied to the NSA which required creating an account on their website. They sent me a login link with the password in plain text in the URL." |
| 15:56.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | Mmm, sleeps. |
| 15:56.11 | airtonix | "I consider myself one-upped." |
| 15:56.23 | Lopeppeppy_ | Some Cat decided that 5am was the perfect time to try to dig the aliens out from the box spring. |
| 15:59.18 | Lunessa | I did not want to get out of bed this morning. I must have punched the snooze button 10 times. |
| 15:59.37 | Thunder_Child | that just makes me more tired |
| 16:00.40 | Lunessa | I have a deal with my alarm clock - I set it way, way early and by the time I've hit the snooze button that many times, I promise to get up and not smash it. |
| 16:03.11 | Lopeppeppy_ | I hit mine twice, and I very rarely allow myself even once - or I won't get up at all. |
| 16:03.16 | Lopeppeppy_ | Hates me Some Cat today. |
| 16:04.02 | alestane | Slippers! |
| 16:07.14 | *** join/#wowuidev vjeux (52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91) |
| 16:07.37 | Lopeppeppy_ | For serious. |
| 16:07.47 | Lopeppeppy_ | alestane, please give Kat birthday spankings for me? |
| 16:08.25 | alestane | Heh; yeah, I can do that. |
| 16:10.24 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 16:10.26 | Ackis | who be kat? |
| 16:10.35 | Dagmar | I think I may have to just say "screw it" and move away from Nashville again. The level of stupidity is becoming a choking cloud. |
| 16:10.57 | Ackis | ohhhhhhhhhh one of my guildmates rescued a kitten off of the highway and he let it meow into the mic on vent last night |
| 16:11.01 | Fisker | that was stupid Ackis |
| 16:14.39 | Seerah | Dagmar: don't come to Memphis then :p |
| 16:15.12 | Dagmar | Have you had something like this yet? http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14826400/police-couple-left-child-in-hot-car-at-strip-club |
| 16:15.46 | Lopeppeppy_ | Yeah, we get that crap every summer. Especially since we get some european tourists. |
| 16:15.58 | Seerah | In Nashville's defense, that has nothing to do with Nashville :p |
| 16:16.20 | Lopeppeppy_ | The standards of "leave kids outside of the restaurant window" in Europe are not quite compatible with US sensibilities... |
| 16:16.47 | Seerah | how about this stupidity, though? http://www.abc24.com/news/local/story/UPDATE-12-Year-Old-Two-Horses-Killed-In-Hit-and/bFf_7os0pEiZbp58JT653A.cspx?rss=59 |
| 16:17.12 | Dagmar | Someone fired shots at freaking Centennial Park last night... during the "Movies in the Park" event |
| 16:17.40 | Seerah | plus, we're pushing our kids through school and not making them repeat the critical K-3 grades when needed: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/jun/02/new-legislation-wont-affect-city-students/?partner=RSS |
| 16:18.28 | Lopeppeppy_ | Suing a school after kids go truant and get in an accident... http://www.theday.com/article/20110602/NWS01/306029378/1070/OP02 |
| 16:18.31 | Lopeppeppy_ | Crazy crazy world. |
| 16:18.49 | nevcairiel | heh, taking your license plates with you when you run |
| 16:19.11 | Dagmar | Oh you haven't seen nothing yet |
| 16:19.29 | Dagmar | http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14826400/police-couple-left-child-in-hot-car-at-strip-club |
| 16:19.36 | Dagmar | No wait |
| 16:19.42 | Seerah | old link is old :p |
| 16:19.56 | Dagmar | http://www.newschannel5.com/story/14697707/columbia-boys-hospitalized-after-smoking-incense |
| 16:19.58 | nevcairiel | you know those slugs are more fun to read then the story |
| 16:20.04 | Lopeppeppy_ | We have a police officer under arrest for a hit and run vehicular manslaughter... |
| 16:20.06 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 16:20.17 | Seerah | Dagmar: our kids here were smoking bath salts from Bed Bath & Beyond |
| 16:20.42 | Dagmar | Right so, two kids go *steal* some incence, smoke it, and wind up going to the hospital. The parents blame the _incence maker_ calling their produc "deceptive" because it's leafy and mostly green |
| 16:20.57 | Dagmar | Like, holy shit let's ban Oregano NOW before that gets out of hand, too |
| 16:20.59 | Jamash | we should ban all leafy green plants |
| 16:21.22 | nevcairiel | In the US, i bet they can actually file a lawsuit on that |
| 16:21.22 | Dagmar | Seerah: That's pretty messed up becaus eyou're supposed to drink those if you're looking to abuse them |
| 16:21.30 | Dagmar | But... damn... |
| 16:21.31 | Seerah | okay, Dagmar, here's our local contribution. http://www.wreg.com/news/wreg-baby-death-clarksdale,0,7854150.story?track=rss they were in too much of a hurry to go into church |
| 16:21.44 | Dagmar | People can't even abuse the *wrong* substances correctly anymore |
| 16:21.47 | Dagmar | That is just sad |
| 16:22.20 | Dagmar | I've jumped some people's asses around here over the Molly's Plant Food and that other methadrome analog |
| 16:22.23 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@dialup-4.246.253.25.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net) |
| 16:22.30 | Dagmar | Like, seriously chewed them out on the porch at Bongo |
| 16:22.49 | Dagmar | They shoudln't have tried to tell me that methadrome bears any resemblance to MDMA, tho |
| 16:22.52 | Fisker | hey Dagmar |
| 16:24.00 | Fisker | old bluspacecow |
| 16:24.07 | Dagmar | We *need* an outbreak of cannibal zombies to start culling the shallow end of the gene pool. |
| 16:24.11 | Fisker | it's surprisingly and shockingly common :( |
| 16:24.43 | Dagmar | At this rate we're only a year or two more away from hearing stories about people starving to death because they couldn't figure out how to work their electic can opener. |
| 16:25.03 | Lopeppeppy_ | Mmm, cannibal zombies! |
| 16:25.25 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: isnt that good, natural selection will always catch up |
| 16:25.28 | Dagmar | ...and if we can't get the zombies, I'll willingly personally volunteer to take a hatchet and start killing the stupid until my arms get tired. |
| 16:26.22 | Lopeppeppy_ | Tag team. |
| 16:27.05 | mckenziemc | cannibal zombies... that's either redundant, or counterproductive D: |
| 16:27.31 | Seerah | hehe http://www.wimp.com/whichdog/ |
| 16:28.28 | Lopeppeppy_ | Gotta be some lab in that dog, Seerah! *laugh* |
| 16:29.15 | Dagmar | Hey, some zombies eat animals. |
| 16:29.39 | Dagmar | It's only a matter of time now before Romero makes a movie about vegetarian zombies causing a potato famine |
| 16:30.41 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 16:31.03 | alestane | Dagmar, http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20031217.html |
| 16:32.31 | Dagmar | I sooo know that feeling righ tnow. |
| 16:32.55 | Dagmar | I have a guy across campus who emailed us to "let us know" he'll be calling later to have a DNS entry changed immediately. |
| 16:33.17 | Lopeppeppy_ | I love it! "When we kill people it makes the policement flustered and stern." |
| 16:33.28 | nevcairiel | He probably complained that the DNS didnt update immediately |
| 16:33.32 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy_ |
| 16:33.34 | nevcairiel | .. when you changed it |
| 16:33.36 | Fisker | i'm so sad Lopeppeppy_ |
| 16:33.36 | Lunessa | Here - this is more light-hearted: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/bags/e883/ |
| 16:33.43 | Fisker | my new client doesn't have troutslaps |
| 16:33.44 | alestane | That's the line Kat treasures out of that strip, too, Peppy. |
| 16:33.49 | bluspacecow | he wants to throw the policeymen off the trail of his illict drug selling operation |
| 16:33.50 | Dagmar | I sent an email back to him pointing out that the TTL on that is 24 hours, and unless they've got routing rules set up to redirect traffic from the old IP to the new IP, he's looking at 24 hours of iffy connectivity to that host because of hte cached entries |
| 16:34.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (~caleb@178.48.162.10) |
| 16:34.20 | Dagmar | He basically sent me a stern email that said (among other things) "My TTL to you is 10 minutes." |
| 16:34.31 | mckenziemc | "The Alliance won't know what hit them! At least, not until my marketing campaign kicks in!" |
| 16:34.38 | alestane | Also priceless, Lopeppeppy_: http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20031224.html |
| 16:34.38 | Lopeppeppy_ | You'll have to feed me by hand, Fisker. *purr* |
| 16:35.08 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:35.12 | Fisker | that was easy |
| 16:35.17 | Dagmar | I am seriously contemplating sending an email back saying "Oh, no worries there. I will merrily break whatever parts of your network you'd like broken in less than ten minutes and enjoy doing it." |
| 16:35.47 | nevcairiel | person requests dns change, you informed him about the TTL, so just do the change |
| 16:35.50 | nevcairiel | its his problem now! |
| 16:36.18 | Dagmar | He'll blame us later |
| 16:36.18 | Lopeppeppy_ | zerg bag! |
| 16:36.22 | Lopeppeppy_ | Lunessa. You're evil. |
| 16:36.33 | bluspacecow | @Dagmar you should send an email back informing him that you take threats seriously and will have a police on site if he follows through and what he's contemplating |
| 16:36.49 | Dagmar | I'm just amassing a "blame core" over here to assemble into a Thermonuclear Getting His Ass Fired Device |
| 16:37.12 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Umm... Heh. That's not a precedent I want to set |
| 16:37.45 | Dagmar | I was having chest tightness yesterday because of this man |
| 16:37.59 | Lunessa | Especially given your temperament. |
| 16:38.05 | Dagmar | He requested several DNS changes of us for zones that are in *his* server, not ours |
| 16:38.48 | bluspacecow | yes but isn't him giving a TTL to you of 10 minutes him saying "if you don't magically make this fixed for me I'll be over in 10 minutes to punch your face in" ? |
| 16:39.03 | bluspacecow | or did I read the intent wrong ? |
| 16:39.06 | Lopeppeppy_ | Entitled asshole is entitled. |
| 16:39.13 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Oh dearie... that would be the best solution for everyone. |
| 16:39.32 | Lopeppeppy_ | Magically do it or I'll complain to your bosses and bring down a shit storm, is more like it. I get those every week. |
| 16:39.40 | Dagmar | If he were to come over and try and take a poke at me... *gleeful shudder* |
| 16:39.47 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/06/youtube-reactions.html |
| 16:39.48 | bluspacecow | let me guess |
| 16:39.51 | bluspacecow | your Huge ? |
| 16:39.52 | Adys | What just happened, are we already in april? |
| 16:39.57 | bluspacecow | like Shaq Huge ? |
| 16:40.08 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Nope. I'm just a hair under 6' and about 195lbs |
| 16:40.31 | Dagmar | ...and I'm a sadist of the worst sort when I'm caught off guard. |
| 16:40.56 | Dagmar | I really, really enjoy causing the deserving pain |
| 16:41.23 | nevcairiel | Adys: wtf is that, thats one of the more stupid things i've seen google do |
| 16:41.31 | Adys | nevcairiel: it's called youtube |
| 16:41.53 | Adys | youtube is the blob of stupid google bought for the money |
| 16:42.09 | Adys | dont you dare say yt engineers are google engineers though. |
| 16:42.13 | Dagmar | Yay he has given the order |
| 16:42.23 | Dagmar | ...calling my boss to request permission to break this man's DNS |
| 16:43.26 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: I learned some years back that adrenaline and "mercy" are mutually incompatible in my system |
| 16:43.44 | bluspacecow | oh oh my |
| 16:44.12 | Dagmar | ...and that while people will do what you say because they either respect you, or fear what you'll do to them, fear works JUST FINE |
| 16:44.44 | Dagmar | I'd prefer they listen out of respect for me telling them the truth, but ya'know... sometimes terror is all you get to work with |
| 16:48.12 | Fisker | free |
| 16:51.36 | Fisker | also Adys |
| 16:51.50 | Fisker | wtf is up with "youtube license"? :o |
| 16:51.58 | Adys | noticed |
| 16:51.59 | Adys | dunno |
| 16:52.17 | Lopeppeppy_ | Oh, can it drive a car now? |
| 16:52.42 | Fisker | maybe Lopeppeppy_ |
| 16:52.53 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 16:52.55 | Fisker | i'm disappointed |
| 16:55.42 | foxlit | The goblin racial Best Deal Anywhere will now only work with vendors you have reputation with and won't stack with exalted guild reputation dealing with guild vendors. |
| 16:56.10 | foxlit | About an expansion too late. |
| 16:57.11 | Fisker | when did we start getting discounts for being exalted on the guild vendor? :o |
| 16:58.04 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 16:58.29 | Fisker | why did the mythbusters need a bulletproof vest when someone is shooting at their direction with blanks? |
| 16:59.11 | *** join/#wowuidev TC-Laptop (~TC@c-069-063-214-148.sd2.redwire.net) |
| 16:59.22 | foxlit | "When a Battleground queue pops players will automatically be removed from all other active queues." |
| 16:59.27 | Adys | Fisker: SPOILERS |
| 16:59.31 | Adys | i havent watched it yet |
| 16:59.33 | foxlit | Multiple expansions too late. |
| 16:59.35 | Fisker | oh sorry for ruining the story for you Adys |
| 16:59.43 | Fisker | btwa |
| 16:59.45 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:59.47 | Fisker | another spoiler |
| 16:59.59 | Fisker | they're doing a myth about something they basically already shown a long time ago |
| 17:00.16 | Adys | their ass? |
| 17:00.18 | Fisker | i.e. whether pavement is similar to water in terms of hitting just as hard |
| 17:00.26 | Fisker | and it is with enough speed |
| 17:00.37 | Fisker | i.e. basically the same as they did the shooting in water myth |
| 17:00.44 | Fisker | just with a human instead of bullets |
| 17:00.54 | Adys | didnt they already prove that? |
| 17:00.56 | Adys | in an early season |
| 17:01.23 | Fisker | well now it's a human instead of a bullet! |
| 17:01.25 | Adys | i remember them getting Buster pulverised |
| 17:01.31 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:01.34 | Fisker | i don't recall that :o |
| 17:01.52 | Adys | hammer break fall |
| 17:01.53 | Adys | thing |
| 17:02.41 | Fisker | wtf jnwhiteh |
| 17:02.56 | Fisker | We are writing to confirm that we have processed your refund in the amount of £2.75 for your Order |
| 17:03.25 | bluspacecow | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386310,00.asp |
| 17:03.26 | Ackis | is there a website that I can build custom gear sets and it'll tell me the overall stats? |
| 17:05.24 | Fisker | damn |
| 17:05.31 | Fisker | you're gonna be disappointed Adys |
| 17:05.31 | Kraps | ~pimg |
| 17:05.34 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 17:05.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:05.41 | Fisker | but i won't tell you since you're so zomg spoilers |
| 17:08.35 | Adys | Fisker: ill watch it later |
| 17:08.51 | Adys | Fisker: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/youtube/PKJx/~3/XLnpEVZ3ajc/youtube-and-creative-commons-raising.html |
| 17:08.52 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 17:08.57 | Ackis | anyone have a website for custom gears? |
| 17:09.16 | Adys | Ackis: http://www.rushgears.com/ |
| 17:09.31 | Ackis | I hate you |
| 17:10.13 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 17:11.21 | Adys | i dont know why i didnt think of that 3 months ago |
| 17:11.43 | Adys | edit /etc/hosts, link "lz" to my guild's minecraft ip |
| 17:12.10 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 17:12.10 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:16.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Krapsy (~chatzilla@ool-4572cb11.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:17.15 | Ackis | can you wear two of http://www.wowhead.com/item=65373 but with different random enchants? |
| 17:18.18 | Adys | Ackis: No |
| 17:18.40 | Ackis | danke |
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| 17:24.19 | Arrowmaster | hmm looks like DAO:UE price finally dropped |
| 17:26.08 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 17:33.22 | Fisker | oh so that's how Google is going to avoid being sued for allowing to search torrents |
| 17:33.28 | Fisker | Google doesn't have torrent in their name |
| 17:33.31 | Fisker | now it all makes sense |
| 17:35.00 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 17:35.04 | mckenziemc | what can i do you for |
| 17:35.07 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 17:35.10 | Fisker | you die |
| 17:35.11 | alestane | Apparently a British team is aiming to get a land vehicle over 1000mph this summer. |
| 17:35.54 | Arrowmaster | rocket on wheels? |
| 17:35.54 | Lopeppeppy_ | cool |
| 17:36.26 | Fisker | http://h6.abload.de/img/haymakera7fd.gif lol'd |
| 17:36.35 | alestane | It will be driven by a hybrid rocket, a Typhoon jet engine and a Cosworth F1 racing combustion engine. |
| 17:36.37 | mckenziemc | grabs Lopeppeppy_'s tail |
| 17:36.42 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:39.52 | Lopeppeppy_ | Thank you, Fisker. |
| 17:39.56 | Lopeppeppy_ | My tail is precious! |
| 17:40.00 | Fisker | no problem |
| 17:40.11 | Fisker | beats being punched in the face |
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| 17:40.15 | Lopeppeppy_ | (as soon as the internet here stops flaking out and it's worth my time, I'll chop it off myself) |
| 17:40.29 | mckenziemc | slaps a large trout around a bit with Lopeppeppy_ |
| 17:41.30 | alestane | Although, apparently the F1 engine is not there to drive the wheels for the most part...its main purpose is to run the pump that delivers the oxidizer to the solid rocket fuel. |
| 17:41.59 | Arrowmaster | wait what |
| 17:41.59 | alestane | And power the electrical and other hydraulic systems. |
| 17:42.05 | Arrowmaster | solid rocket fuel? |
| 17:42.24 | alestane | Solid fuels are nothing terribly new in rocket designs. |
| 17:42.40 | alestane | Fireworks run off of them, for instance. |
| 17:42.48 | Arrowmaster | no they arent new but they do have more problems in stability than liquid |
| 17:43.07 | Arrowmaster | stable burns that is |
| 17:43.41 | alestane | Says here that they're using a solid rubber fuel called hydroxyl-terminated polybutadiene. |
| 17:44.02 | alestane | And high-test peroxide as an oxidizer. |
| 17:44.48 | Lopeppeppy_ | peroxide. *laugh* |
| 17:45.56 | alestane | So yeah, it's primarily rocket-driven. The jet engine is there for low-speed maneuvering, and the Formula 1 engine just powers the auxilliary systems and fuel pumps. |
| 17:47.03 | alestane | There's also a catalyst in the rocket chamber that breaks the peroxide down into steam and O2, giving off enough heat to ignite the rocket fuel in the process. |
| 17:47.42 | alestane | Says the pump can deliver all 800 liters of peroxide to the rocket in 20 seconds. |
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| 17:49.53 | alestane | Says that all the project's technical details, including CAD files, are being disclosed by the project at bloodhoundssc.com |
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| 17:59.23 | Ackis | http://chardev.org/?profile=139207 <-- BiS Holy Priest minus Sinestra? |
| 18:03.54 | Ackis | http://www.thesimpsons.com/nedna/ |
| 18:05.19 | mikma | ackis: yes |
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| 18:11.48 | Lunessa | Phisng groups can go to hell. Directly. Do not pass go, do not collect user names/passwords. |
| 18:15.06 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2011/06/boy-wishes-he-hadnt-sold-his-kidney-for-an-ipad-2.html |
| 18:18.17 | TC-Laptop | aww, common Lunessa, let people have their fun. |
| 18:18.34 | Lunessa | their right to fun stops when my work day becomes hell |
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| 18:33.12 | Lopeppeppy_ | Eeew, Lunessa. Ick. |
| 18:36.10 | foxlit | # Don't ask for a ress, you're better off dead; it's the Bear Cow kind of way |
| 18:46.08 | foxlit | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RegisterAddonMessagePrefix |
| 18:46.12 | foxlit | why do you let me down, Internet? |
| 18:47.09 | Xeonkryptos | because it can :) |
| 18:48.01 | Ackis | because it's never gonna get you up |
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| 19:18.50 | Lunessa | Never gonna get you up, always going to leave you down. Always going to crash down, and hurt you... |
| 19:28.54 | cog|work | Grum: ping |
| 19:29.42 | Lopeppeppy_ | Sounds like a kinky sex filk, Lunessa. |
| 19:30.22 | TC-Laptop | filk? |
| 19:30.30 | TC-Laptop | oh, flik? |
| 19:34.24 | alestane | No, filk. |
| 19:37.27 | Lopeppeppy_ | F-I-L-K |
| 19:37.45 | Lopeppeppy_ | Fan music, where you take a popular tune and write new words to it, usually in a specific fan-genre. |
| 19:39.09 | Ackis | what are some of the 'big' cities in montana or idaho? |
| 19:39.44 | Lunessa | lmgtfy ... |
| 19:40.33 | Ackis | I google mapped it and I still had no idea :P |
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| 19:41.42 | Ackis | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=FYwCMQMd7EU8-Skj_96ARSKgUzFdFfZKDKAfQQ%3BFR1JBAIdeMT4-Cln6FWA-dbcgDFgsSuaq4mrAQ&q=edmonton+to+anaheim&aq=&sll=53.575102,-113.391747&sspn=0.010307,0.027874&ie=UTF8&ll=43.782993,-111.269531&spn=3.208253,7.13562&z=8&saddr=edmonton&daddr=anaheim |
| 19:41.45 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:42.19 | Lunessa | You're looking a multi-day drive. |
| 19:42.32 | Lopeppeppy_ | Crazy man! |
| 19:43.03 | Ackis | I know it'll be multiple days, I'm trying to find a city to stop at in Montana or Idaho :P |
| 19:43.10 | Lunessa | And, probably cheaper to fly 'cause gas prices are crazy |
| 19:43.32 | Lopeppeppy_ | Idaho Falls looks bit, Pocatello, Helena, Butte. |
| 19:44.06 | Lopeppeppy_ | If you're driving, decide how far you'll get in 8 hours, then pick a town more or less there. :) |
| 19:44.20 | Ackis | I'll drive more than 8 hours... probably 16ish |
| 19:44.28 | Ackis | has a penis and a jug. |
| 19:44.40 | Lopeppeppy_ | Then pick that. :) |
| 19:44.58 | alestane | http://www.nicky510.com/comic/for-spanish-press/ *snrk* |
| 19:45.09 | Ackis | I'm just concerned about picking a small hic town... I've heard they're all over in the US |
| 19:45.10 | Lopeppeppy_ | Salt Lake City will be hella expensive if you get a motel-hotel there. Don't try. Same for Vegas. |
| 19:45.10 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:45.21 | Lopeppeppy_ | Why on earth drive through Vegas, silly creature! *shudder* |
| 19:45.45 | Ackis | we are planning on stopping at vegas on the way back for a night or two, but it's the most direct route according to google |
| 19:47.00 | Lopeppeppy_ | Well, not like there's tons of major highways. :) |
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| 19:48.09 | Kraps | yay i got a service cal scheduled |
| 19:48.17 | Ackis | hmm I wonder if I can push Edmonton to Salt Lake in one day then Salt Lake to Anaheim in the second day |
| 19:48.39 | alestane | Depends how exhausted you want to be when you get there. |
| 19:49.20 | Ackis | it's 1700km and then 1100km, not that bad.. the 1700km might be a bit difficult |
| 19:49.23 | Kraps | Ackis: apparently you cant equip epics during a trial |
| 19:49.41 | Ackis | rofl really Kraps? |
| 19:50.25 | Kraps | yeah, lathandra was really broken up about it :p |
| 19:51.16 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:51.21 | Ackis | he has to wait until Saturday then |
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| 19:58.06 | Ackis | and my GPS provider wants $200 to update my incar gps |
| 20:00.52 | Lopeppeppy_ | Accurate GPS won't get you lost in the Nevada mountains for 10 weeks, starving and freezing to death. |
| 20:00.54 | Lopeppeppy_ | True story. |
| 20:01.13 | Lopeppeppy_ | Then again, if you just print the directions and don't listen to the GPS, it won't send you on seasonal roads to die. Also true. |
| 20:01.32 | Ackis | the sad thing is, there's been a few stories of people travelling from Alberta who have just gotten lost... :P |
| 20:02.44 | Lopeppeppy_ | Same with the wilds of the rockies in the states, but usually with snarky GPS units who think moose tracks are valid roads. |
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| 20:16.25 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 20:18.46 | alestane | Daily dose of random: 'Mamihlapinatapai (sometimes spelled mamihlapinatapei) is a word from the Yaghan language of Tierra del Fuego, listed in The Guinness Book of World Records as the "most succinct word", and is considered one of the hardest words to translate.[1] It refers to "a look shared by two people, each wishing that the other would initiate something that they both desire but which neither wants to [initiate]. |
| 20:18.46 | alestane | "' |
| 20:20.40 | Antiarc | I think we just call that "sexual tension" in English. |
| 20:21.04 | alestane | I don't think it refers only to sex. |
| 20:23.02 | Cide | a mathematician would solve that by mapping the subject to sex, applying sexual tension and mapping back. |
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| 20:29.59 | Ackis | Aliens: Colonial Marines looks neat |
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| 20:30.23 | kd3|netbook | hm |
| 20:30.27 | kd3|netbook | gnome3 is interesting |
| 20:31.52 | Arrowmaster | ive only heard bad things |
| 20:32.31 | kd3|netbook | it took installing a few shell extensions but I think I can live with it |
| 20:32.41 | Kraps | -hot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzSoJg-5YKE&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:33.19 | Fisker | hot Kraps |
| 20:33.26 | Fisker | what is hot? |
| 20:33.27 | kd3|netbook | anyway, time for class. yay summer school |
| 20:33.41 | Fisker | hello kd3 |
| 20:33.42 | Fisker | damnit |
| 20:33.50 | nevcairiel | too slow Fisker |
| 20:33.55 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 20:35.17 | Fisker | so no hey nevcairiel + |
| 20:35.18 | Fisker | ? |
| 20:35.23 | nevcairiel | no hey |
| 20:35.37 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 20:39.00 | zenzelezz | "Stationary ground effects should no longer move with the casting character if he or she moves (or is moved) from his or her current location." - sounds reasonable |
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| 20:42.49 | Fisker | hows your job btw nevcairiel ? |
| 20:45.21 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5807913/do-not-adjust-your-brains-its-just-the-alice-madness-returns-launch-trailer |
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| 21:00.53 | Stanzilla | and another sony hack |
| 21:01.02 | Stanzilla | 1million passwords in cleartext, gg |
| 21:01.37 | nevcairiel | the US should really start nuking hackers, that would be fun |
| 21:02.05 | Stanzilla | start nuking sony instead, I don't want my stuff saved in cleartext^^ |
| 21:02.59 | nevcairiel | alot of companies do that actually, because it makes support easier |
| 21:07.10 | Arrowmaster | just start forcing everybody to support openid or other similar alternatives (but not allowed to lock it down to only facebook) |
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| 21:13.58 | kd3|netbook | crap. this class uses ms sql server |
| 21:14.23 | kd3|netbook | looks like I get to install virtualbox |
| 21:22.01 | Xeonkryptos | can anyone say me what the method "OnEnterPressed" from EditBox returned? |
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| 21:29.35 | Mikk | ? |
| 21:29.51 | Mikk | it's an event, not a method, and it gives arguments, doesn't return things |
| 21:31.17 | Xeonkryptos | uups... i should better read the next time :) thanks^^ |
| 21:31.26 | Jamash | it doesn't make support easier if you get sued |
| 21:34.44 | foxlit | I'm frustrated with the matchmaker :( |
| 21:34.54 | foxlit | Every bloody game is "LOL I'M GONNA MASS T1!" |
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| 21:35.17 | Jamash | clearly you need to win your way into a higher league |
| 21:36.48 | foxlit | But I don't want to 17rax my way to victory? |
| 21:38.28 | kd3|netbook | 3fps in minecraft on my netbook? ow |
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| 21:57.28 | Kraps | whats up with the title/link changes? http://kotaku.com/5807528/rainbow-six-will-blow-your-fucking-mind |
| 22:03.00 | Fisker | yay |
| 22:03.11 | Fisker | Sony is having another lecture of crappy security |
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| 22:15.56 | Zyn | LulzSec send their regards |
| 22:20.11 | kd3|netbook | lol; 75 minutes into class, prof says "Let's take a 5 minute break". 2/3 of the class (incl. me) runs out of the class to the nearest coke machine to get caffeine |
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| 22:23.26 | Fisker | oh |
| 22:23.30 | Fisker | i thought it said cock machine |
| 22:23.33 | Fisker | btw hello kd3|netbook |
| 22:23.42 | kd3|netbook | 'lo |
| 22:24.07 | kd3|netbook | not sure how you'd get caffeine out of a cock machine |
| 22:26.42 | Stanzilla | let it drink alot of coke before? :O |
| 22:28.08 | Torhal | tramples Stanzilla with a unicorn. |
| 22:28.21 | Stanzilla | nooo |
| 22:28.23 | Stanzilla | not my unicorn :( |
| 22:28.26 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 22:28.38 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 22:28.52 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 22:29.05 | Jamash | Hey Fiskerzilla |
| 22:30.23 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 22:31.37 | kd3|netbook | also, wtf sony |
| 22:31.41 | kd3|netbook | leaking data like a sieve |
| 22:31.47 | kd3|netbook | is glad he doesn't have a ps3 |
| 22:32.17 | Fisker | or bought any music from sony |
| 22:32.23 | Fisker | or got a station account |
| 22:32.48 | Zyn | looks at his very old SOE account for Planetside |
| 22:32.51 | Zyn | oh noes my datas |
| 22:33.08 | Fisker | also |
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| 22:33.18 | Fisker | i guess Sony will get my data once again |
| 22:33.29 | Fisker | since i downloaded it to make sure i wasn't part in the database |
| 22:34.51 | nebula169 | poor ps3 chan ;; |
| 22:36.01 | Jamash | PURAYSTASHIYON |
| 22:37.08 | Jamash | or ãã¬ã¤ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³ |
| 22:37.15 | Fisker | kd3|netbook |
| 22:37.33 | Fisker | we should buy kernel.org and replace it with an image of a popcorn kernel |
| 22:38.50 | Jamash | you should buy microsoft.com and replace it with a picture of a shrinky-dink |
| 22:39.35 | Fisker | no |
| 22:39.58 | Fisker | also lol'd @ PSN |
| 22:40.05 | Fisker | they apparently still have servers running 2.6.18 |
| 22:40.18 | Fisker | which is like older than the PS3 lol |
| 22:40.41 | Fisker | what do you say? |
| 22:40.53 | Fisker | Did they fire like 95% of their staff after the PS3 got released? |
| 22:41.30 | Jamash | before |
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| 22:48.17 | Fisker | i farted Jamash |
| 22:49.00 | Jamash | Post proof or retract |
| 22:51.15 | Fisker | no |
| 22:51.32 | Fisker | that dutch guy must be stupid as fuck |
| 22:51.42 | Fisker | claiming there's nothing interesting in the files |
| 22:54.19 | mckenziemc1 | says the dane |
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| 22:58.45 | Jamash | aren't danish and dutch the same? |
| 22:58.57 | mckenziemc1 | denmark, netherlands |
| 22:59.23 | mckenziemc1 | i thin |
| 22:59.24 | mckenziemc1 | k |
| 22:59.33 | Jamash | is netherlands belgium? |
| 23:01.08 | cbreak | no |
| 23:04.39 | mckenziemc1 | raids the Fiskerlands. |
| 23:07.20 | Fisker | haeks mckenziemc1 |
| 23:10.24 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
| 23:11.09 | Fisker | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/ensuring-your-information-is-safe.html <-damn Adys that's some bad advice, where's the advice about never ever signing up for any sony service? |
| 23:11.09 | Fisker | :3 |
| 23:11.25 | Adys | oh ho ho i get it |
| 23:11.30 | Adys | which is why im off to bed |
| 23:11.31 | Adys | BAI |
| 23:11.41 | TC-Laptop | i want to go off to bed |
| 23:11.50 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: you getting anything today? |
| 23:11.51 | Adys | of course you do |
| 23:11.53 | Adys | im going there |
| 23:12.00 | TC-Laptop | no, Adys, not your bed |
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| 23:13.27 | Fisker | wow |
| 23:13.34 | Fisker | someone made a case with room for 2 systems |
| 23:13.40 | Fisker | with one of them being mini-itx of course |
| 23:13.42 | Fisker | should've gotten that :( |
| 23:25.15 | Zyn | the Mozart TX? |
| 23:26.24 | mckenziemc1 | does it have enough cooling for two systems though |
| 23:26.58 | Jamash | pfft |
| 23:28.05 | Jamash | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/02/orions_ships_96/ |
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