| 00:00.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I'm quickly starting to despise the file autocomplete. it doesn't take in account hidden files, and there's no way to "go back" once i hit tab twice |
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| 00:10.48 | Adys | Cairenn: SNiLD is back |
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| 00:11.15 | *** kick/#wowuidev [SNiLD!~Karen@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (SNiLD) |
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| 00:12.09 | Cairenn | Adys: thanks |
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| 00:13.58 | kd3 | fark: "Either we all really did miss the rapture, or this is the greatest real life trolling attempt in recent memory [Weird]" |
| 00:14.05 | kd3 | http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_fcfcbfa8-87bb-11e0-814b-001cc4c03286.html |
| 00:16.45 | Trela | HOLY SHIT! OPRAH SHOW IS CANCELLED! |
| 00:16.52 | Trela | This is the best week EVER! |
| 00:17.03 | kd3 | canceled? she's been announcing it for months? |
| 00:17.27 | Shirik | Trela doesn't live on Earth |
| 00:17.32 | Shirik | it takes time for news to get there |
| 00:17.39 | Trela | Just a day late here. |
| 00:17.49 | Trela | Seriously. So happy that idiot is gone. |
| 00:17.58 | Shirik | what idiot |
| 00:18.14 | Trela | Well, book authors with money to pay for placement are probably sad. |
| 00:18.20 | Trela | Shirik: Oprah |
| 00:18.27 | Shirik | you would rather have dr. phil? |
| 00:18.53 | Trela | No, but he is a tolerable person. |
| 00:19.00 | Cide | don't be silly |
| 00:19.08 | Cide | calling oprah intolerable is just weird |
| 00:19.51 | Trela | You have to be fairly stupid to believe stuff 4chan trolls say and then announce it on air multiple times. |
| 00:20.26 | Kraps | so? |
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| 00:20.28 | Shirik | so in 40 years of her talk show she made a mistake |
| 00:20.30 | Shirik | wow |
| 00:20.40 | Kraps | eyes Trela |
| 00:21.32 | Adys | i turn my back 10 minutes and Shirik starts talking about oprah |
| 00:21.40 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i guess theres no way to bind to ctrl-backspace? =/ |
| 00:21.41 | Cide | wrong |
| 00:22.03 | Arrowmaster | Adys: looks like it |
| 00:22.12 | Trela | She has done more stupid harmful things than ever should be allowed. Though, technically Fox News wins on that one. |
| 00:22.14 | Adys | thats annoying |
| 00:28.54 | Shirik | my boss wrote me an email with "end of transmission" at the end, followed by a "PS" |
| 00:29.08 | Shirik | I replied with this |
| 00:29.10 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 00:29.28 | Shirik | http://pastebin.com/eA3ZHjj5 |
| 00:41.25 | Dagmar | What exactly is Dr. Phil a doctor of? |
| 00:42.43 | Adys | Shirik: Did he give you a raise? |
| 00:42.51 | Shirik | no :( |
| 00:42.56 | Adys | get it |
| 00:42.57 | Adys | raise |
| 00:43.16 | Shirik | he'll probably be like "wtf is a linux" |
| 00:43.18 | Adys | THIS WOULD BE FUNNIER IN PYTHON |
| 00:43.22 | Adys | but then again |
| 00:43.27 | Adys | it wouldnt have crashed in python. |
| 00:43.28 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 00:43.30 | Shirik | that went right over my head |
| 00:43.32 | Shirik | you know why |
| 00:43.33 | Adys | yeah |
| 00:43.38 | Adys | because you suck |
| 00:43.39 | Shirik | BECAUSE ONLY STUPID PEOPLE KNOW PYTHON |
| 00:43.45 | Shirik | sorry |
| 00:43.46 | Adys | and because you suck |
| 00:43.47 | Shirik | I should rephrase that |
| 00:43.52 | Shirik | ONLY STUPID PEOPLE USE PYTHON |
| 00:43.55 | Adys | and because you suck |
| 00:44.10 | Adys | also dont you use python? |
| 00:44.14 | Shirik | nope |
| 00:44.17 | Shirik | why would it be raise anyway |
| 00:44.19 | Adys | yes you do. |
| 00:44.23 | Shirik | EVERY OTHER LANGUAGE uses throw |
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| 00:44.41 | Shirik | except C which uses the * operator to crash |
| 00:44.42 | Adys | java uses throw |
| 00:44.43 | Cide | thank you Shirik |
| 00:44.48 | Shirik | and C# |
| 00:44.50 | Shirik | and C++ |
| 00:44.52 | Adys | so we, python devs, made sure we wouldnt |
| 00:45.02 | Shirik | np Cide |
| 00:45.05 | Shirik | some day you'll learn |
| 00:45.13 | Cide | hey now |
| 00:45.23 | Cide | hope your friend doesn't fall through |
| 00:45.35 | Shirik | :/ |
| 00:45.36 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:45.42 | Cide | >:) |
| 00:46.14 | Shirik | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/En-us-Friday.ogg |
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| 00:51.38 | Cide | IS IT REBECCA BLACK? |
| 00:52.44 | Shirik | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT |
| 00:52.48 | Shirik | They renamed my favorite element! |
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| 00:53.04 | Adys | which? |
| 00:53.12 | Shirik | Unununium (uuu) |
| 00:53.40 | Adys | The name roentgenium (Rg) was proposed by the GSI team[8] in honor of the German physicist Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen, and was accepted as a permanent name on November 1, 2004 |
| 00:53.58 | Shirik | yeah f them :( |
| 00:54.02 | Adys | it has been 7 years |
| 00:54.33 | Shirik | well it's not like I check it every day |
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| 00:57.55 | Adys | nvidia 275.09 line released |
| 00:58.09 | Adys | qt resize crash not fixed :( |
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| 01:02.21 | Fisker | 27. maj 201101:31Ankommet til 704 Københavns Pakkecenter |
| 01:02.22 | Fisker | yuuuuus |
| 01:02.26 | Fisker | broken tablet times |
| 01:02.27 | Fisker | tiems |
| 01:03.48 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 01:04.15 | Shirik | Adys: I had an epic crash today |
| 01:04.22 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 01:04.30 | Shirik | application crashed and reported that the video device "disappeared" |
| 01:04.35 | Shirik | a few seconds later, bsod |
| 01:04.42 | Adys | Shirik: that's not something you want to hear from someone who works on planes. |
| 01:04.45 | Fisker | your hardware sucks Shirik |
| 01:04.48 | Shirik | um |
| 01:04.54 | Shirik | the plane doesn't have a video device |
| 01:05.05 | Shirik | so I think you're ok |
| 01:05.05 | Adys | OH DOES IT NOW |
| 01:05.09 | Adys | SO HOW DO THEY SHOW THE STUFF OUTSIDE THE WINDOWS. |
| 01:05.14 | Shirik | .. |
| 01:05.26 | Adys | if you're so smart, you tell me |
| 01:05.31 | Shirik | you're right |
| 01:05.34 | Shirik | you caught me |
| 01:05.39 | Adys | I DID DIDNT I |
| 01:06.01 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 01:06.05 | Fisker | you set me up |
| 01:06.08 | Fisker | you gonna unset me up? |
| 01:06.08 | Shirik | yup |
| 01:06.11 | Adys | that was me |
| 01:06.13 | Shirik | and now I will go eat |
| 01:06.14 | Shirik | bye |
| 01:06.18 | Fisker | i hate you Shirik |
| 01:06.32 | Shirik | nou |
| 01:06.33 | Shirik | Ù©(â¢Ì®Ì®Ìâ¢Ì)Û¶ |
| 01:06.34 | Shirik | bye |
| 01:13.13 | Fisker | i'm so gonna go sleep now |
| 01:13.22 | Fisker | then tomorrow when i get my broken transformer i can rage while i rage |
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| 01:28.09 | cogwheel | wtb more raiders |
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| 02:00.06 | cogwheel | Lunessa: can my rogue have that trinket in the gbank? |
| 02:00.27 | Lunessa | the agility 359 epic? |
| 02:00.32 | cogwheel | ya |
| 02:00.40 | Lunessa | I don't care. :) |
| 02:00.43 | cogwheel | kk |
| 02:00.51 | Lunessa | Get an officer to get it out for you |
| 02:01.08 | yssaril | i refuse |
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| 02:03.18 | yssaril | Lunessa: can my lock have the 359 staff? |
| 02:03.46 | Lunessa | I think we has up-and-coming healers who would make better use of that. |
| 02:04.08 | yssaril | kk |
| 02:04.18 | yssaril | just checking :) |
| 02:05.03 | cogwheel | and if we also have up-and-coming tanks, that meas i'll get to bring my rogue along some time, right? ;) |
| 02:08.49 | Lunessa | I'm busting my hump to be able to cover when he goes on vacation. |
| 02:15.06 | Torhal | Seerah|away: Every time I read another post on WoWAce, I o.O multiple times. |
| 02:15.23 | Torhal | Well, from that one guy... |
| 02:15.27 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 02:15.32 | Shirik | raids cogwheel |
| 02:15.52 | Seerah|away | Torhal: yeah |
| 02:16.42 | Seerah | he doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed, does he |
| 02:16.49 | Seerah | but he proclaims that he's a programmer! |
| 02:17.12 | Torhal | He no longer PLAYS. NOW he DESIGNS. |
| 02:17.28 | Seerah | that, too |
| 02:17.47 | Torhal | Sorry - had to vent. :D |
| 02:17.59 | Seerah | it's okay :) |
| 02:20.08 | Cairenn | installs an air duct in Torhal |
| 02:20.09 | mckenziemc | who? |
| 02:20.24 | |Jelly| | I hear Sea can tank. |
| 02:20.29 | |Jelly| | He's pretty bad though. |
| 02:20.43 | Kraps | i'm an up-and-coming healer |
| 02:21.02 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Oh, just someone who's hyperactive and writes walls of somewhat unintelligible text whilst simultaneously proclaiming to be a programmer and yet completely showing the opposite. |
| 02:21.24 | Torhal | Cairenn: You forgot the tape. |
| 02:21.49 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:22.26 | Kraps | Shirik: whats a way better version of Friday |
| 02:22.32 | Kraps | thats* |
| 02:26.27 | Cide | is it still the day after thursday? |
| 02:26.35 | mckenziemc | no |
| 02:29.39 | tem | if you're in a guild group in a dungeon |
| 02:29.44 | tem | and you aren't capped on guild rep |
| 02:29.50 | tem | why would you not be getting rep for kills? |
| 02:31.22 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/05/26/study-violent-video-game-players-are-more-aggressive-desensitized |
| 02:31.31 | mckenziemc | ARE You killing things that don't give rep? |
| 02:35.25 | Shirik | Kraps: I have an APC40 |
| 02:35.28 | Shirik | I can make a remix if you want |
| 02:35.37 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:35.55 | Shirik | it would actually be insanely easy |
| 02:39.29 | tem | does ZA not give rep? |
| 02:45.22 | Lunessa | Torhal: and it all boils down to "you don't give me all the attention/addons/sex/money/power I crave, so you read this now!" |
| 02:48.39 | Kraps | sweet, Ezio |
| 02:49.09 | Kraps | s hookblade is like batmans claw thingy |
| 02:56.40 | tem | there are still forums on wowace |
| 02:56.42 | tem | ? |
| 02:56.52 | tem | I don't think I've been there in 4 years |
| 02:57.37 | tem | haha You scared? Terrified. Mortified. Petrified. Stupefied... by [coding]. |
| 02:57.46 | tem | Rowne named that forum |
| 03:00.25 | Shirik | At first I was afraid |
| 03:00.28 | Shirik | I was petrified |
| 03:00.38 | Cide | can't think that I would ever live without you by my side |
| 03:00.42 | Cide | could*? |
| 03:01.10 | Cide | kept thinking* too |
| 03:01.16 | Cide | and never* |
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| 03:01.17 | Cide | ok I fail |
| 03:01.46 | Shirik | who the fuck is Chantay Savage |
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| 03:01.49 | Shirik | and how do I kill her |
| 03:02.20 | Cide | sounds like wine |
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| 03:07.36 | Torhal | Lunessa: Did I mention the amazing number of "lol"s? :) |
| 03:09.14 | Lunessa | Torhal: Hangin's too good fer 'im. |
| 03:09.47 | Torhal | Hmm... |
| 03:16.45 | airtonix | why doesn't the macosx printer setup have a 'print test page" ? |
| 03:16.56 | airtonix | this makes me unhappy |
| 03:18.07 | Kraps | the Animus has a space beyond the loading White Room called the Black room which is kind of like a safe-mode for consciousness |
| 03:20.26 | Iriel | airtonix: it does |
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| 03:23.27 | airtonix | it didn't when i was setting a printer up |
| 03:23.52 | airtonix | i experienced a distinct lack of "print test page" functionality |
| 03:24.06 | Thunder_Child | my laptop doesnt seem to have that either |
| 03:25.51 | kd3 | whee; very first minecart station retrofitted to use power rails |
| 03:25.52 | Iriel | Open print queue |
| 03:26.04 | Iriel | Printer -> Print Test Page |
| 03:26.04 | kd3 | only took a few hours of banging my head against the desk |
| 03:26.05 | airtonix | don't care anymore |
| 03:26.24 | airtonix | i'm not using macosx anymore i deleted it |
| 03:26.34 | airtonix | :> |
| 03:27.25 | mckenziemc | good choice |
| 03:28.26 | Torhal | purees airtonix and uses him to boil mckenziemc. |
| 03:33.40 | mckenziemc | "Provides no benefit for your class." |
| 03:33.52 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/uSHdQ |
| 04:04.59 | ScytheBlade1 | This is wonderfully painful |
| 04:05.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I have to teach about 10 people who have never touched unix/linux or anything that resembles it |
| 04:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | How to manipulate a shell on sunos, solaris, and RHEL |
| 04:05.37 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 you might like this |
| 04:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | basic troubleshooting, working with CVS, and account manipulation :/ |
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| 04:12.15 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:12.20 | ScytheBlade1 | wat |
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| 04:12.30 | Shirik | http://shiibot.com/endTransmission.png |
| 04:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:20.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I have now created a slide in powerpoint detailing cd, ls, and pwd :/ |
| 04:20.41 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/DVG2Z.jpg |
| 04:22.08 | Iriel | I dont understand people who think that kind of thing is funny |
| 04:23.07 | ScytheBlade1 | From the /b/ reference, I blame 4chan |
| 04:23.33 | Corrodias | it's quite popular there |
| 04:23.45 | Corrodias | as random advice for any computer problem |
| 04:24.45 | Corrodias | having reached meme dilution, the phrase "delete system32" is almost guaranteed to show up in any tech help -related thread. |
| 04:26.29 | mckenziemc | trouts Shirik around a bit with a large slap. |
| 04:26.55 | Kraps | oh so i shouldnt have done that? |
| 04:27.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: no worries, just replace the "del" with "restore" in that command and you'll be good to go |
| 04:27.37 | Kraps | kidding |
| 04:27.42 | ScytheBlade1 | me too =] |
| 04:28.00 | Kraps | :p |
| 04:35.57 | Kraps | http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/176/4/b/Samus_Aran_by_jdillon82.jpg |
| 04:39.07 | Kraps | i lold http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/hkntg/so_apparently_ive_been_working_at_abstergo_for/ |
| 04:40.30 | Kraps | http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/058/0/4/assassin_link_by_uniquelegend-d3349v3.jpg |
| 04:42.48 | Corrodias | now that is a crossover i woud like to see |
| 04:42.51 | Corrodias | *would |
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| 05:07.37 | Kraps | the commander dude from bsg is going to be on dexter |
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| 05:14.44 | airtonix | Torhal: umadbro? |
| 05:14.48 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:14.50 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:14.52 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:15.13 | airtonix | problem officer? |
| 05:20.45 | Kraps | fifty |
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| 05:46.00 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_19210_7-insane-easter-eggs-hidden-in-movies-tv-shows.html |
| 05:47.34 | airtonix | hey kraps |
| 05:47.43 | Kraps | what |
| 05:47.46 | airtonix | han solo is hunting reavers |
| 05:48.35 | Kraps | ? |
| 06:14.00 | airtonix | lol'd |
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| 06:14.04 | airtonix | old song + math = Oscar nomination |
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| 06:52.46 | Shirik | hey airtonix |
| 06:52.48 | Shirik | which seat can I take? |
| 07:01.16 | Shirik | fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 07:01.34 | Shirik | I use an automated system where I tell it what workout I did and how well I did and it feeds me the next day's workout based on that |
| 07:01.45 | Shirik | it's making me do bicycle abs tomorrow :( |
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| 07:05.34 | airtonix | situps while you ride a bike? |
| 07:05.45 | leizeQ | hi, could someone help me with PlayerModel:SetModelScale(number) in oUF portrait.PostUpdate() ? |
| 07:05.49 | airtonix | "Hi i'm riding a bear while riding a motorbike while rowing in a boat" |
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| 07:10.20 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:10.31 | Shirik | the mars spirit rover mission is finally over |
| 07:10.36 | Adys | old |
| 07:11.55 | Shirik | old? |
| 07:13.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah that was 2 days ago |
| 07:13.32 | Shirik | negative |
| 07:13.37 | Shirik | They sent the last transmission 2 days ago |
| 07:13.44 | Shirik | no |
| 07:13.48 | Shirik | they sent the last transmission yesterday |
| 07:13.58 | Shirik | well, the 25th. Whatever that means for you. |
| 07:14.06 | Arrowmaster | 2 days ago |
| 07:14.18 | Shirik | it's like 25 hours ago |
| 07:14.21 | Arrowmaster | how many martian days is that? |
| 07:14.36 | Shirik | that's like 26 martian hours |
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| 07:26.07 | haste | leizeQ: you need to call :SetCamera(), with something that isn't zero |
| 07:27.54 | mitch0 | airtonix: colgroup doesn't support display: css property :*( |
| 07:27.59 | mitch0 | s/\*// |
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| 07:30.16 | haste | Shirik: that system sounds kinda interesting |
| 07:38.47 | Adys | airtonix: ping |
| 07:39.07 | Adys | or Cide |
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| 07:41.10 | Shirik | but not me Adys |
| 07:41.19 | Adys | you done threading in python? |
| 07:42.04 | leizeQ | haste: thanks a lot, i am experimenting with it right now |
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| 07:45.42 | Shirik | hey kd3 what do you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shirik/Forced_adminship |
| 07:45.48 | Shirik | and Adys: no :( |
| 07:45.51 | Shirik | but how hard can it be |
| 07:45.57 | Shirik | import multithreading |
| 07:45.59 | leizeQ | the solution was to use SetPortraitZoom(number) |
| 07:48.19 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/ql5NIeH9ELs/ |
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| 07:54.19 | Adys | Kalroth: see above |
| 07:54.50 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 07:54.55 | Kalroth | there's a roof |
| 07:55.04 | Kalroth | and I think that's a spider |
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| 08:01.37 | Shirik | where the hell is xkcd's friday article |
| 08:01.47 | Shirik | nm.......... |
| 08:03.17 | Arrowmaster | where? im looking at it right now |
| 08:03.33 | Shirik | I had to refresh for some reason |
| 08:04.07 | Adys | Shirik: which? |
| 08:04.30 | Arrowmaster | it just showed up in my google reader hours ago |
| 08:04.39 | Arrowmaster | no refreshing needed |
| 08:04.42 | Adys | link? |
| 08:06.53 | Shirik | um |
| 08:06.55 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com ? |
| 08:08.21 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5806134/drm-means-super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition-will-have-limited-offline-functionality |
| 08:08.30 | Arrowmaster | Svensson said the DRM was necessary because "SFIV unfortunately was plagued by pirates and hackers that messed up leaderboards." |
| 08:08.37 | Arrowmaster | anybody want to place bets |
| 08:08.39 | kd3 | I am amused |
| 08:09.57 | Corrodias | oh yeah, because we really care about leaderboards so much more than functionality |
| 08:10.10 | Arrowmaster | its fucking capcom |
| 08:10.17 | Corrodias | how do people get through the day, thinking things like that? |
| 08:10.26 | Arrowmaster | these are fuck mother fuckers that put achievements in games for getting first place on a leaderboard |
| 08:11.01 | ZorbaBeta | wait, how does that fix anything? |
| 08:11.17 | ZorbaBeta | "People were hackers and fucked up the online rankings! So we decided to remove the offline portion of the game." |
| 08:11.17 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.17 | kd3 | who said it does? |
| 08:11.19 | ZorbaBeta | what the fuck |
| 08:11.21 | Fisker | imma business jerk |
| 08:12.17 | kd3 | your daily dose of "wtf, nature": http://www.npr.org/2011/05/26/136655052/before-and-after-a-birds-eye-view-of-joplin |
| 08:12.29 | Corrodias | i do not pretend to understand the inner workings of the business executive mind |
| 08:13.26 | Arrowmaster | personally i would take the money they would have spent on the drm and instead used it to pay programers capable of making the game harder to decompile and modify |
| 08:14.20 | Corrodias | i only know that i loathe game publishers like that. there are few things i am passionate about and my quiet disrespect for "those people" is one of them. |
| 08:14.37 | ZorbaBeta | there's a limit to what you can do with that. personally, I'd use it to pay programmers to detect fradulent leaderboard entries :P |
| 08:15.21 | Corrodias | you could get rid lf leaderboards and make the game fun to play for its own sake, but modern gamers can't handle that. there are only e-penis points. |
| 08:15.42 | Arrowmaster | why does a fighting game have leaderboards? |
| 08:16.05 | Corrodias | i can't imagine what it measures |
| 08:16.55 | Arrowmaster | i mean i know doa and blazblue have rankings which make sense but leaderboards just sounds weird |
| 08:17.01 | Corrodias | at least not anything meaningful. what system could they come up with that can't be gamed by the simplest tricks of a 6-year-old? |
| 08:17.15 | Arrowmaster | doesnt have any fighting games other than DOA and BlazBlue |
| 08:17.46 | Corrodias | well i guess as long as it isn't being HACKED and PIRATED, i guess the e-penis numbers are good, even if they're meaningless! |
| 08:18.00 | kd3 | ahaha, wtf. for those of you who watched madoka magica and have a passing understand of japanese (or even if you don't): http://blog.livedoor.jp/hyodo_shasin/archives/50604637.html |
| 08:18.03 | ZorbaBeta | does blazblue have meaningful rankings? last I saw it was basically "who's played the game more" |
| 08:18.06 | kd3 | is creeped out just thinking about it |
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| 08:18.46 | Corrodias | well, i guess that's one thing you can measure |
| 08:18.57 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: actually that really is what the rankings in it are since you cant go down |
| 08:19.06 | ZorbaBeta | yeah that's pretty much useless |
| 08:19.12 | ZorbaBeta | I don't get why they didn't make a real ranking system |
| 08:19.14 | ZorbaBeta | they're just not that complicated |
| 08:19.28 | Arrowmaster | well if you arent fighting against somebody close to your rank you dont get any points though |
| 08:19.34 | Corrodias | kd3: i don't get what's so weird about it. it's a person in a character suit like you'd see at disneyplace, playing with some kids. |
| 08:19.45 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, but still, you end up with a meaningless number at the end |
| 08:19.50 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: well people hate the DOA4 ranking |
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| 08:20.05 | kd3 | you had to have watched madoka magica and recognize who he's dressed up as. otherwise it doesn't really work |
| 08:20.12 | Arrowmaster | mostly because you cant game the system in it |
| 08:20.25 | ZorbaBeta | I don't really have a problem with that :V does doa4 have a meaningful rank system? |
| 08:20.30 | Corrodias | so, nobody likes it except the few people at the top |
| 08:20.42 | Corrodias | is this worth all the effort? |
| 08:21.36 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 08:21.39 | Fisker | are you a business jerk? |
| 08:22.01 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: doa4 has a ranking system that you go up and down in, but it has other stuff like you can only earn so many points off of a person in a 72 hour period |
| 08:22.07 | kd3 | does "making elaborate plans to make management look like the asses they are in front of the board" count? |
| 08:22.16 | kd3 | if, so, yes, quite. |
| 08:22.25 | ZorbaBeta | it looks like it's not a random match system |
| 08:22.30 | ZorbaBeta | which is basically mandatory for sane rankings |
| 08:22.32 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 08:22.43 | ZorbaBeta | here. here is how you do a sane ranking system. |
| 08:22.46 | ZorbaBeta | (1) Copy Chess. |
| 08:22.55 | ZorbaBeta | That's it. |
| 08:22.57 | Arrowmaster | have you heard about the fight night round 4 (i think thats it might be a different fight night one) |
| 08:22.58 | ZorbaBeta | - ALTERNATIVELY - |
| 08:23.01 | ZorbaBeta | (1) Copy Starcraft 2. |
| 08:23.03 | ZorbaBeta | That's it. |
| 08:23.49 | ZorbaBeta | nope, what was the deal with it? |
| 08:24.11 | Arrowmaster | the game has like 3 belts that can only be held by a single player each at a time |
| 08:24.31 | Arrowmaster | theres a group of people that has been holding them constantly and charging money to loan them out |
| 08:24.57 | Arrowmaster | you need all 3 for the achievements |
| 08:25.06 | ZorbaBeta | oy |
| 08:25.06 | Corrodias | loan them? how does THAT work? |
| 08:25.18 | ZorbaBeta | I swear these people have no idea how to do game design |
| 08:25.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i dont have the game |
| 08:25.23 | Corrodias | anybody who would pay one cent for an achievement needs a mushroom stamp |
| 08:25.31 | Corrodias | i swear |
| 08:26.04 | Kalroth | a lot of people would |
| 08:26.15 | Kalroth | (see Farmville players) |
| 08:26.18 | Corrodias | "Achievement Unlocked: You're a stooge." |
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| 08:26.32 | Arrowmaster | i was boosting in another game and it came up in conversation because a guy joined the party that got them for a week and had people constantly asking him for help getting the achievements |
| 08:27.00 | kd3 | yay! http://www.reghardware.com/2011/05/27/htc_bootloader_unlock/ |
| 08:27.26 | ZorbaBeta | I just don't understand how designers can *not* expect that to happen |
| 08:28.09 | Corrodias | somebody has their heads up their asses and didn't ask for external feedback, or didn't take it seriously, or asked it of the wrong people |
| 08:30.03 | ZorbaBeta | I suppose this comes down to the same issue that results in more CTF games |
| 08:30.20 | Arrowmaster | lazyness? |
| 08:30.30 | ZorbaBeta | a complete failure to understand the game dynamics involved |
| 08:30.35 | ZorbaBeta | "oh, every game has a CTF mode, let's add one too" |
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| 08:30.42 | ZorbaBeta | yes and they all suck unless you *really* know what you're doing |
| 08:30.51 | Shirik | katamari damacy: CTF mode |
| 08:30.52 | Arrowmaster | CTF is an art |
| 08:30.55 | Corrodias | i don't know what it takes to make a good ctf game |
| 08:30.59 | Arrowmaster | like TF |
| 08:31.07 | Corrodias | but then, i guess that means i shouldn't make one without finding out. |
| 08:31.09 | ZorbaBeta | corrodias, you desperately need some way to ensure it doesn't turn into a turtlematch |
| 08:31.33 | olafski | kalroth: not to troll or anything, but how is paying for farmville really worse than paying for perks in F2P mmo's? =) you may think farmville is more simple or anything, but imo they're both free games which have an optional paid component =( |
| 08:31.40 | ZorbaBeta | basically, attacks need to be fast and deadly - you can't have any long travel times or easy turtling positions |
| 08:32.00 | Corrodias | olafski: nope; i am scathingly critical of any "premium" content in games |
| 08:32.03 | ZorbaBeta | the flags need to be right out there in the middle of nowhere, with several entries and no bottlenecks, and you need for there to be no good way to grab the enemy flag and then hide it. |
| 08:32.20 | Kalroth | olafski: I don't think it's different, it's equally bad :) |
| 08:32.25 | olafski | ok :) |
| 08:32.45 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: yeah like some of the maps in TFC where just beautifully made, they were perfect |
| 08:32.48 | olafski | corrodias: yeah.. I had been pondering it yesterday, what would happen if all parts of wow would be separate features you'd pay for.. totalling what you pay now |
| 08:33.22 | olafski | i.e. pay $2 a month for running heroics, $3 for raiding, $3 for battlegrounds, etc |
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| 08:33.49 | ZorbaBeta | olafski, my brain space is more valuable than the money I'd save choosing individual features |
| 08:33.51 | olafski | I don't think it'd be a good idea.. though I wouldn't mind not having to pay for raiding since I don't do that :) |
| 08:33.52 | Corrodias | to put it mildly, i would dislike it. |
| 08:34.11 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: yet i recall doing team oddball in halo where we could constantly grab the ball and hide or protect the carrier, it was all about who got it first |
| 08:34.15 | olafski | zorbabeta: agreed, but then if you'd play AoC would you just buy all the features? |
| 08:34.33 | Corrodias | it's the developer telling you "yeah, don't play the game to its fullest extent. unless you want to pay us more money, i guess." |
| 08:34.45 | ZorbaBeta | If I decided I liked the game, probably. |
| 08:34.57 | ZorbaBeta | Personally I like the Puzzle Pirates system best, though |
| 08:34.58 | olafski | nice way of putting it corrodias :) still, games with that system seem to be quite popular (DDO for instance) |
| 08:35.15 | Corrodias | turning my game time into some kind of monetary decision-making is not what i fucking play games for. |
| 08:35.25 | olafski | zorbabeta: which system is that? |
| 08:36.05 | ZorbaBeta | olafski, PP has two currencies, pieces of eight (or poe) and doubloons |
| 08:36.17 | ZorbaBeta | poe are accumulated by doing ingame things, doubloons are purchased with real money |
| 08:36.29 | ZorbaBeta | there's also a market where you can trade players poe for doubloons, or vice-versa, securely |
| 08:36.35 | ZorbaBeta | if you want to unlock segments of the game, you do it with doubloons |
| 08:36.52 | ZorbaBeta | the result is that if you're just having fun playing the game, you end up with enough poe to buy doubloons to unlock features and play for free |
| 08:37.06 | Corrodias | i like game activities to be entirely divourced from real currency. but there will always be people clamoring for RMT, because they'd rather pay their way through the game than actually play it. |
| 08:37.10 | ZorbaBeta | or, if you want a quick infusion of cash to make your house/boat/clothes awesome, you can fork over a few bucks for doubloons, turn some of them into poe, and buy your shinies |
| 08:38.00 | ZorbaBeta | the only way to actually *create* doubloons is with real money, so whenever you buy something with doubloons you are in fact paying the developers actual money, but there are enough people who buy doubloons to convert into PoE that you can quite reasonably play the game for free. |
| 08:38.24 | ZorbaBeta | this obviously only works if the game is intrinsically fun, but, well, it is ;) |
| 08:38.38 | Corrodias | and then you have people who will do that; pay for "nice things" |
| 08:39.35 | Corrodias | i am less critical of it when it's the entire business model for the game, and there's no up-front charge or subscription. |
| 08:39.40 | ZorbaBeta | eve's got a similar system with PLEXes - you can, again, play for free, on someone else's dime, if you can make enough isk to buy game time each month. |
| 08:39.44 | olafski | that sounds pretty nice zorbabeta :) |
| 08:39.54 | Corrodias | i can understand them being annoying little douchebags, dangling carrots in front of your wallet, when that's the only way they can make money. |
| 08:40.18 | ZorbaBeta | I spent $80 on PLEXes, sold them to buy a freighter, then used that freighter to make enough money to pay for $200 of game time. Everyone wins! |
| 08:40.20 | Corrodias | it has absolutely no place in a thing that i already funded, though. |
| 08:40.36 | olafski | I heard about the PLEX stuff.. I think EVE is not my kind of game :P |
| 08:41.12 | olafski | (not because of the PLEX trading though) |
| 08:41.21 | Arrowmaster | and PLEX can be destroyed ingame |
| 08:41.38 | ZorbaBeta | I'll admit I've never understood why anyone ships PLEXes around |
| 08:41.42 | ZorbaBeta | just buy 'em in Jita and leave them there |
| 08:42.20 | Corrodias | money is too valuable to me to ever spend it on a videogame character shirt |
| 08:42.34 | Corrodias | i have things like food and games themselves to buy |
| 08:43.56 | Fisker | paypal is the cancer killing mobile payment |
| 08:44.02 | Corrodias | when you ask me to make a value choice between another awesome gaming experience and some useless shit like an xbox live avatar, that's just too easy a decision. |
| 08:44.26 | Fisker | btw yay kd3 |
| 08:44.44 | Corrodias | what is mobile payment? |
| 08:45.21 | Kalroth | you pay for stuff while running away |
| 08:45.30 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 08:45.34 | Kalroth | hey |
| 08:45.35 | Fisker | preordered the 1000kr bill yet? |
| 08:45.45 | Kalroth | they're sending the first 100 of them to me |
| 08:45.52 | Kalroth | i need some pocket change |
| 08:46.14 | Fisker | i once farted pocketchange |
| 08:46.21 | ZorbaBeta | corrodias, oddly, I felt the exact same way until I started playing puzzle pirates |
| 08:46.42 | ZorbaBeta | then it was "oh man, this game's fun, and I'm getting it for free, and . . . well, I kinda want that hat . . . yeah, I can give them fifteen bucks" |
| 08:46.49 | ZorbaBeta | and now I have a totally wicked hat |
| 08:47.15 | olafski | corrodias: sure, but I guess some people have money to buy both :) |
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| 08:47.52 | Corrodias | well, good for them; you wouldn't know it from all that "recession" talk that went around the last few years. |
| 08:47.54 | Arrowmaster | or they are children and dont understand the concept of money yet |
| 08:48.16 | olafski | I did pay 10 euro to have my xbox live name changed so I guess I shouldn't judge anyway |
| 08:48.42 | Arrowmaster | im never changing mine |
| 08:49.03 | olafski | I wanted "Olafski" but when I started it was taken.. now when they removed the original xbox live accounts it became available so I changed =) |
| 08:49.22 | Shirik | sleeps |
| 08:49.29 | Corrodias | that's SLIGHTLY different. i won't accuse you of being a child for that. |
| 08:49.29 | olafski | btw a little sidetrack: I asked last week whether transferring items on the neutral AH was allowed and everybody in here seemed to think it is. But isn't communication between horde and alliance forbidden? |
| 08:49.45 | Corrodias | nope; circumventing the chat filter is not allowed. |
| 08:49.58 | olafski | corrodias: yay ;) I never paid for avatar items though, I only use the free ones and the ones that unlock from games |
| 08:50.01 | Corrodias | talking to people who play characters on the other side, even while they're doing it, is not a problem. |
| 08:50.12 | olafski | corrodias: oh.. I figure that's about the same thing :/ |
| 08:50.18 | Corrodias | WoW does not monitor your AIM chat, and PvE realms allow you to have characters on both sides. |
| 08:50.18 | olafski | the end result is the same anyway |
| 08:50.24 | olafski | pvp too ;) |
| 08:50.29 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:50.29 | Arrowmaster | i paid for one avatar item, thats it |
| 08:50.30 | ZorbaBeta | also you can chat with people on both sides on the forums |
| 08:50.31 | Corrodias | oh? didn't used to |
| 08:50.31 | Fisker | don't you sleep on me |
| 08:50.40 | Corrodias | ZorbaBeta: but why the hell would you want to... |
| 08:50.50 | ZorbaBeta | to set up trades across the neutral AH, of course :D |
| 08:50.50 | olafski | hm okay, so then I guess what I'm doing is 100% legit ;) |
| 08:50.58 | Corrodias | good point |
| 08:51.08 | olafski | corrodias: they allowed pvp chars on both sides a few years ago, it was needed for faction transfers I guess |
| 08:51.15 | Corrodias | i see |
| 08:51.35 | olafski | damnit now I want to check out puzzle pirates ;) |
| 08:51.44 | Corrodias | i'm not sure what the chat restriction is supposed to accomplish. i've never been sure. |
| 08:52.26 | Corrodias | some people used to speculate that it was to keep down trash talk and hate speech. |
| 08:52.40 | ZorbaBeta | olafski, it's a really really good game |
| 08:52.42 | ZorbaBeta | highly recommended |
| 08:53.04 | Corrodias | it might just be a thematic effort to make the two sides feel separated |
| 08:55.41 | ZorbaBeta | it might, but I'm not convinced it actually makes the game any more fun |
| 08:57.08 | Fisker | i once changed olafski |
| 08:57.15 | Fisker | how does one change btw? |
| 08:57.35 | Corrodias | what can change the nature of a man? |
| 08:59.01 | Fisker | farts nasty farts |
| 08:59.41 | olafski | corrodias: yeah I was wondering that too yesterday :) if we're going to be able to play with people from other realms, why not just go all the way and let us play with our real ID friends on different factions too :s |
| 09:00.07 | Fisker | olafski |
| 09:00.10 | Fisker | reveal your secrets |
| 09:00.11 | Fisker | or die |
| 09:00.31 | Corrodias | what are those, again? real life friends? |
| 09:00.43 | olafski | hey I said real ID friends ;) |
| 09:00.50 | Corrodias | or blizzard's weird take on the concept? |
| 09:01.00 | Corrodias | i didn't follow the news after it was announced |
| 09:01.04 | olafski | oO |
| 09:01.09 | olafski | are you currently playing wow? |
| 09:01.15 | Corrodias | no |
| 09:01.19 | olafski | as in do you have a subscription |
| 09:01.19 | olafski | ah |
| 09:01.36 | Fisker | fucking dicks |
| 09:01.42 | Fisker | i need an xbox to change gamertag? |
| 09:01.46 | olafski | you can add people as "Real ID" friends and then you can see their online presence regardless which character they're on |
| 09:01.55 | olafski | (or even in other blizzard games) |
| 09:01.55 | Fisker | i wonder if they know about games for windows live? |
| 09:02.14 | Arrowmaster | nobody cares about GfWL |
| 09:02.18 | Corrodias | so it's like every other friend system EVER, huh? |
| 09:02.24 | Fisker | i know Arrowmaster |
| 09:02.33 | olafski | corrodias: yeah, except without the "appear offline" option |
| 09:02.38 | Fisker | but i actually have some games that for reasons unknown chose to use that system |
| 09:02.39 | Corrodias | but blizzard never uses other people's stuff; they always have to make their own |
| 09:02.44 | olafski | and by default, your friends can see your entire friend list |
| 09:02.49 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: wrong |
| 09:03.10 | Corrodias | oh, when did they use existing infrastructure? besides the internet iself? |
| 09:03.12 | Corrodias | *itself |
| 09:03.23 | olafski | and now blizzard intends to add a premium feature that allows you to use the dungeon finder with your real ID friends, even if they're on other realms |
| 09:03.25 | Arrowmaster | the previous forum system was purchased from another company |
| 09:04.02 | Corrodias | well, color me educated. |
| 09:04.37 | Arrowmaster | the company name was visable in the error messages |
| 09:04.50 | Arrowmaster | i tracked it down once but ive forgotten |
| 09:06.06 | Adys | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/969-Scribblenauts |
| 09:06.17 | Adys | If I were feeling charitable, I'd liken it to having infinite amounts of Lego and only being allowed to access ten blocks of it at a time. Congratulations guys, you've proved that you have a fuckload of free time and a dictionary. Come back when you've looked up what "fun" means. |
| 09:06.17 | Fisker | noo |
| 09:09.50 | Corrodias | "Genre: Emergent puzzle" interesting |
| 09:12.50 | Adys | And I would actually like to see it continued because there's a lot of potential on display. I'd like to see another one with more time periods to go to, better storytelling, more flexible objectives, and while I'm fantasizing I'd also like a flying cat that dispenses harps. |
| 09:15.22 | Corrodias | i have a few Extra Creditses to catch up on, i see |
| 09:15.37 | Corrodias | another time, though. sleeping now. |
| 09:37.06 | Fisker | . |
| 09:37.08 | Fisker | . |
| 09:37.24 | Fisker | I've been wondering if I can use the remote guild chat on my pc. It would be logical that it works on my work pc as well, when for example the mobile version of youtube seems to work fine on my computer at work. |
| 09:37.26 | Fisker | ... |
| 09:37.43 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 09:38.24 | airtonix | the google works fine on my internet on the toaster why wouldn't it work on my yahooooo in the bath? |
| 09:38.35 | Fisker | i'm the maddest of bros airtonix |
| 09:38.49 | airtonix | did you follow the brocode? |
| 09:39.48 | Fisker | yes |
| 09:42.08 | airtonix | btw |
| 09:42.30 | airtonix | i require the link to the quote you just used |
| 09:43.12 | Fisker | he already edited anyway |
| 09:43.13 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2151756904 |
| 09:43.16 | Fisker | since he was stoopid |
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| 09:44.37 | airtonix | i really hate how analy retentive university lecturers can be aboout references in assignments: you forgot to put < > around the url of one of your references therefore i'm failing you on this assignment. |
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| 09:47.24 | airtonix | i thought the gnugpl was extreme |
| 09:49.01 | Fisker | xserver is xtreme |
| 09:49.02 | Fisker | get it? |
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| 09:51.44 | Kalroth | your jokes are xtremely bad fisker |
| 09:54.23 | Fisker | oh you xtreme Kalroth |
| 09:57.15 | olafski | arrowmaster: have you tried assault heroes or gatling gears? they look fun.. |
| 09:57.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:57.38 | olafski | if you're into such games though I guess ;) |
| 09:57.42 | Arrowmaster | trenched looked cool |
| 09:58.01 | Arrowmaster | but i dont buy $15 arcade games |
| 09:58.08 | olafski | checking out now =) |
| 09:58.15 | Arrowmaster | not sure if its out yet |
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| 09:58.17 | olafski | yeah 1200 MSP is becoming too much of a trend now imo |
| 09:58.28 | olafski | there are some games for which it's warranted I think |
| 09:58.31 | olafski | e.g. Shadow Complex |
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| 09:58.44 | olafski | or maybe puzzle quest.. but not all of them are that deep |
| 09:59.43 | olafski | trenched is june 22nd btw :) |
| 10:08.53 | Wobin | airtonix: I've had lecturers mark me down for not having the correct number of tabs in a source code, or too many lines (read 6) in a function |
| 10:10.08 | airtonix | i just hate HATTTTTTEEE business studies about IT which are presented and orchestrated by people who fail at use the styles feature of a word processor |
| 10:10.27 | airtonix | LAWL LETS USE THE ENTER KEY AS A FORMATTING TOOL |
| 10:11.12 | airtonix | Fisker: so bro, are you still mad |
| 10:12.01 | bluspacecow | yeah fisker |
| 10:12.04 | bluspacecow | umadbro |
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| 10:19.27 | Fisker | why oh why bluspacecow ? |
| 10:19.37 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 10:19.42 | bluspacecow | i blame midgets |
| 10:21.55 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 10:23.02 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-pictures-hamster-is-laughing.jpg |
| 10:27.59 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:28.03 | Fisker | free slaps for you |
| 10:29.30 | Fisker | dance forever zenzelezz |
| 10:33.27 | bluspacecow | i was in the shower bro |
| 10:33.48 | Fisker | YUS bluspacecow |
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| 10:37.09 | Fisker | what are you going to do bluspacecow ? |
| 10:37.20 | Fisker | i just danced forever my only one |
| 10:37.28 | bluspacecow | go to work |
| 10:39.24 | Fisker | omg ultimate derp bluspacecow |
| 10:39.39 | Fisker | no back button on one of the recovery menus |
| 10:39.45 | Fisker | also internal battery |
| 10:39.48 | Fisker | ??? |
| 10:39.48 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 10:39.49 | Fisker | BAM |
| 10:40.01 | Fisker | good thing there was adb :( |
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| 10:45.29 | Fisker | omg jnwhiteh your plug is huge |
| 10:45.43 | airtonix | she didn't say that |
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| 11:34.42 | zenzio | this is pretty wicked... http://www.flickr.com/photos/exxonvaldez/4707684227/in/set-72157606064555806/lightbox/ |
| 11:37.16 | airtonix | fiskerite.... it's cold |
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| 11:48.27 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.41 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 11:49.42 | Fisker | i want you |
| 11:49.50 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 12:08.01 | airtonix | haha |
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| 12:17.13 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:17.14 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:17.17 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:18.11 | mckenziemc | morning Fisker |
| 12:18.41 | Fisker | morning mckenziemc |
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| 12:22.45 | Stanzilla | yay Fisker |
| 12:22.52 | Stanzilla | htc caved in with their bootloader crap |
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| 12:35.54 | Fisker | old Stanzilla |
| 12:36.25 | Stanzilla | I know |
| 12:36.28 | Stanzilla | but I was sleeping |
| 12:36.30 | Stanzilla | and working |
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| 12:37.39 | Fisker | oh ok Stanzilla |
| 12:37.42 | Fisker | then it isn't old |
| 12:37.52 | Stanzilla | thank you, sir |
| 12:37.53 | Fisker | anyway still not entirely sure what it means |
| 12:38.30 | Fisker | if they mean in the literal sense then that's a bad move |
| 12:39.00 | Fisker | if they mean removing the requirement of having boot loaders signed, then that still doesn't account for other protection |
| 12:39.06 | Fisker | etc. |
| 12:39.12 | Stanzilla | true |
| 12:41.31 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 12:41.32 | Fisker | you up? |
| 12:42.02 | jnwhiteh | oh yeah baby |
| 12:42.59 | Fisker | your plug is huge jnwhiteh |
| 12:44.04 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 12:44.33 | airtonix | wtf |
| 12:44.36 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 12:44.41 | Fisker | anyway yeah |
| 12:44.43 | Fisker | uk plugs are huge |
| 12:44.49 | airtonix | creeper blow up from further away now |
| 12:44.49 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 12:44.50 | jnwhiteh | this is true. |
| 12:45.20 | airtonix | it's not the size |
| 12:45.28 | airtonix | it's how you use it |
| 12:46.12 | airtonix | my shaver has usb charging |
| 12:46.25 | airtonix | Fisker: usb3 |
| 12:46.53 | mikma | schwing! |
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| 12:49.05 | Fisker | zomg airtonix |
| 12:50.19 | airtonix | yeah 63 jiggaquads |
| 12:56.41 | airtonix | fisker, help |
| 12:56.50 | airtonix | the internets consume me |
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| 12:59.33 | airtonix | did you know ebay own alot of domain names |
| 13:02.55 | Kraps | i'm reminded of oprahs interview of jk rowling, at one point they discuss what its like being a jillionare |
| 13:02.57 | Kraps | rowling: i'm sometimes afraid of losing everything, what about you? oprah: meh, not so much |
| 13:03.20 | airtonix | what does that mean |
| 13:03.29 | airtonix | break it down for me |
| 13:04.22 | Kraps | english mothertonix, do you read it |
| 13:06.03 | Fisker | i once consumed you airtonix |
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| 13:08.17 | airtonix | i don't know, i don't speak american |
| 13:10.33 | Kraps | http://www.onemorelevel.com/game/soviet_rocket_giraffe |
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| 13:19.02 | Fisker | le penis Kraps |
| 13:21.14 | airtonix | what is this madness |
| 13:21.41 | Kraps | its not madness |
| 13:23.19 | Kraps | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/memes-the-location-in-which-we-currenyly-reside-within-may-receive-the-idenification-of.jpg |
| 13:23.21 | airtonix | i can't succeed in this game |
| 13:23.25 | airtonix | THIS GAME IS CRAP |
| 13:23.35 | airtonix | all you doo is press ONEEE |
| 13:23.37 | airtonix | button |
| 13:24.21 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 13:24.23 | Fisker | you are crap |
| 13:24.25 | Fisker | dickbutts |
| 13:25.50 | Fisker | old airtonix |
| 13:27.10 | airtonix | how is this game an rpg when you can do quests and sstuff |
| 13:29.04 | Kraps | wat |
| 13:31.35 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 13:31.39 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 13:31.42 | Fisker | dickbutts? |
| 13:31.46 | mckenziemc | you may receive this reward 2 more times this week |
| 13:32.37 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gEdJdGlUmbc |
| 13:32.55 | olafski | holy typo in a meme picture kraps! |
| 13:33.19 | Kraps | oh lol olafski |
| 13:33.38 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 13:37.09 | Kraps | 300's trailer is great |
| 13:38.14 | olafski | because it tells the entire movie, saving you from having to watch it? |
| 13:38.36 | olafski | this is sparta! tonight we dine in hell! our arrows will block out the sun, then we will fight in the shade! end |
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| 13:39.43 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZAV6sIzzog&feature=player_detailpage#t=2353s |
| 13:40.33 | Adys | you can dress up to look as professional as you like; you come on stage to read a stack of papers like that, you'll look like a clown |
| 13:41.07 | mckenziemc | what do you have against clowns |
| 13:41.21 | Adys | nothing; I suddenly feel bad for comparing that fool to a clown |
| 13:43.56 | Adys | "Citi is proud to be the lead bank at the launch of Google Wallet, playing a key role in bringing valuable services to today's busy, on the go... <reads paper> consumers." |
| 13:44.16 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 13:44.33 | mckenziemc | patents an OLED notecard |
| 13:44.56 | Adys | Citi has a long, and... <reads paper> successful history. |
| 13:45.28 | mitch0 | airtonix: ping |
| 13:45.33 | Adys | this guy is damaging to Citibank |
| 13:50.31 | jnwhiteh | Adys: its embarassing |
| 13:50.37 | Adys | very |
| 13:50.40 | jnwhiteh | Adys: also, our nether travel network is <3 |
| 13:50.43 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:50.51 | Adys | my server is dying really bad |
| 13:50.59 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 13:51.00 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 13:51.22 | Adys | little activity; 1.6 was gonna bring some back but with all the lag and other issues it's frustrating everyone |
| 13:51.43 | jnwhiteh | aww sad =( |
| 13:51.49 | jnwhiteh | but drawbridges! |
| 13:51.53 | Adys | im tempted to ask sharas to reset the server |
| 13:51.56 | Adys | fresh starts are nice |
| 13:52.09 | jnwhiteh | yeah they can be |
| 13:52.14 | Adys | (note that by "dying" i mean there's only ten people playing instead of 40 :P) |
| 13:52.20 | Kraps | "300 Spartans, 700 Thespians, 400 Thebans and perhaps a few hundred others, the vast majority of whom were killed." |
| 13:52.48 | haste | your deep linking doesn't work Adys ! |
| 13:52.59 | Adys | mywat? |
| 13:53.08 | haste | youtube deep link |
| 13:53.18 | Adys | it doesnt work with html5 |
| 13:53.25 | Adys | try 39:13 |
| 13:54.10 | haste | removing &feature=player_detailpage solved it |
| 13:54.19 | haste | then both 39m13s and 2353s work |
| 13:54.32 | Adys | youtube sucks |
| 13:54.38 | haste | yy |
| 13:54.48 | haste | just as much as this guy :D |
| 13:55.02 | Adys | i know right |
| 13:55.44 | haste | of digital money *look at paper* and mobile money *pause* citi has *look at paper* a long and.. |
| 13:55.47 | haste | D: |
| 13:56.53 | Kraps | huh, this is a real thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_multiplier |
| 13:58.17 | Fisker | hey haste |
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| 13:58.53 | Fisker | but Adys |
| 13:58.59 | Adys | butt Fisker |
| 13:59.01 | Fisker | what if citi had a long and unsuccessful history? |
| 13:59.11 | Adys | butt Fisker |
| 13:59.31 | Fisker | anyway |
| 13:59.33 | Fisker | nfc is nice |
| 13:59.34 | haste | Fisker: why aren't you creating acid?! |
| 13:59.41 | Fisker | sucks it won't come to denmark before 2100 |
| 13:59.50 | Fisker | why would i create acid? |
| 13:59.57 | haste | gr8 music! |
| 13:59.59 | Adys | speaking of acid |
| 14:00.05 | Adys | the competition on acid4 is ridiculous |
| 14:00.12 | haste | D: |
| 14:00.44 | Adys | The test itself will not be developed in public, but a list of features tested will be compiled and distributed before the test is announced to ensure there is broad agreement on the set of features tested. Before it is announced, browser vendors will be asked to suggest the best six-month window for release in the next 12 months. |
| 14:00.50 | Adys | all that because mozilla are fucking whiners |
| 14:01.08 | haste | D: |
| 14:01.17 | Fisker | opera finally got free advertising |
| 14:01.21 | Fisker | and they whined over that too |
| 14:05.43 | Adys | view-source:http://simon.html5.org/test/opera/crashers/001.htm |
| 14:05.45 | Adys | thats fun |
| 14:07.55 | haste | 2006 D: |
| 14:09.13 | Adys | http://simon.html5.org/test/importhack/ |
| 14:10.38 | haste | still 2006 bugs |
| 14:11.13 | Adys | yes, they make me laugh |
| 14:16.02 | zenzio | "set the headers and libraries search paths and linked (by using dragon drop operation)" -- dragon drop, now that's a pretty cool expression |
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| 14:29.00 | karl_w_w | I don't really use dragon drop much, but I might now. |
| 14:32.54 | mitch0 | I won! I won! |
| 14:33.09 | mitch0 | I fought the CSS and I won! :) |
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| 14:33.35 | jnwhiteh | I shot the JS, but I did not shoot the CSS |
| 14:33.42 | mitch0 | :) |
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| 14:37.15 | Kraps | i created the sound of madness |
| 14:37.26 | mitch0 | poo |
| 14:44.00 | Torhal | Kraps: Did you write the book on pain, though? |
| 14:44.13 | Torhal | mitch0: So you have CSS being your bitch for columns, eh? |
| 14:44.56 | Kraps | Somehow I'm still here to explain that the darkest hour never comes in the night. |
| 14:45.39 | airtonix | money = shit |
| 14:46.04 | Torhal | Kraps: You can sleep with a gun. |
| 14:46.21 | Torhal | airtonix: Don't you mean people? |
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| 14:46.27 | Kraps | When you gonna wake up and fight |
| 14:48.14 | karl_w_w | money = people? |
| 14:49.07 | Torhal | Of course. |
| 14:49.23 | Torhal | Though I was leaning more toward the Slipknot theme of "people == shit" |
| 14:49.46 | Torhal | You can blame Kraps for laying the band theme out there. |
| 14:50.53 | karl_w_w | I've always wondered who was to blame for Slipknot |
| 14:51.09 | Kraps | the song isnt slipknoy |
| 14:51.15 | Kraps | t* |
| 14:51.34 | Torhal | Kraps: I know that, but putting band ideas in my head is your fault. |
| 14:51.44 | Stanzilla | Fisker: message from the ceo sounds good |
| 14:51.47 | Torhal | Anyway - Shinedown, Slipknot...they both start with an S! |
| 14:51.59 | Torhal | hands Stanzilla a unicorn. |
| 14:52.00 | airtonix | slipshit |
| 14:52.04 | Kraps | Sparta |
| 14:52.14 | airtonix | Patrick |
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| 14:52.55 | Fisker | how so Stanzilla ? |
| 14:56.00 | Kraps | whats itunes policy on movie rentals? |
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| 14:57.55 | Fisker | fuck you Kraps |
| 14:57.57 | Kraps | nvm |
| 14:57.58 | Fisker | that's the policy |
| 14:58.20 | Kraps | same as youtube |
| 14:58.48 | Fisker | i doubt youtube's policy states they can connect you ass to mouth with another person |
| 15:00.08 | Kraps | could you not bring up that movie? |
| 15:00.20 | Fisker | omg Kalroth this tv show is sponsored by cancer |
| 15:00.29 | Fisker | what movie Kraps ? |
| 15:00.48 | Kraps | shut up Fisker |
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| 15:00.59 | Fisker | what up Kraps ? |
| 15:01.16 | Kraps | shut up Fisker |
| 15:01.20 | Fisker | what up Kraps ? |
| 15:01.26 | karl_w_w | die Fisker die |
| 15:01.32 | Kraps | shut up Fiskerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 15:01.40 | Fisker | why so violent karl_w_w ? |
| 15:01.53 | Fisker | who is Fiskerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr? |
| 15:02.11 | Kraps | karl_w_w has the right idea |
| 15:02.23 | Fisker | umadbro? |
| 15:02.50 | Kraps | youjerkbro? |
| 15:02.52 | karl_w_w | it would be awesome if umadbro turned out to be a word in another language |
| 15:02.58 | Fisker | ok |
| 15:03.07 | karl_w_w | omg |
| 15:03.15 | Fisker | he mad |
| 15:03.16 | karl_w_w | Fisker killed Kraps |
| 15:03.23 | Fisker | probably didn't read his license agreement |
| 15:03.41 | karl_w_w | ill read your license agreement if you're not careful |
| 15:04.19 | karl_w_w | pretty sure it says no Krapsocide |
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| 15:05.27 | airtonix | no |
| 15:05.30 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 15:05.38 | airtonix | broseph |
| 15:05.48 | karl_w_w | brosephine* |
| 15:05.51 | Fisker | highfives |
| 15:05.55 | Fisker | unhighfives |
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| 15:10.37 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
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| 15:13.38 | Fisker | prods Kraps with a stick |
| 15:14.27 | mckenziemc | don't touch that, you don't know where it's been |
| 15:14.48 | Kraps | jams the stick down Fiskers throat |
| 15:15.05 | Kraps | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/faster-forward/post/lisa-kudrow-will-host-the-19th-annual-webbys/2011/05/27/AG1kxfCH_blog.html |
| 15:15.08 | Fisker | umadbro? |
| 15:15.41 | Fisker | i nominate the humancentipad as the best content on the internet |
| 15:16.21 | Kraps | no |
| 15:16.26 | Fisker | i do |
| 15:16.34 | Kraps | good for you |
| 15:16.49 | Fisker | then why did you tell me i weren't? |
| 15:18.01 | Kraps | trying to change reality |
| 15:18.25 | TC-Laptop | nothing says start of a great day like coming in to work and being told you are being part of a videoconference in 30 min |
| 15:19.06 | mckenziemc | D: |
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| 15:20.11 | TC-Laptop | if i new that, i would have worn my nice face. |
| 15:20.17 | TC-Laptop | knew* |
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| 15:21.16 | frostgram | can someone tell me how to extract the blizzard ui with the console? i added -console to my wow-shortcut on the desktop but hitting' doesnt change a thing |
| 15:21.41 | mckenziemc | ~framexml |
| 15:21.41 | purl | methinks framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 15:22.09 | mckenziemc | ` is the key |
| 15:22.13 | mckenziemc | to the left of 1 |
| 15:22.29 | mckenziemc | iirc you hit that on the login screen then type in the commands, but it's been a while since i did it |
| 15:22.29 | haste | depends on keyboard layout |
| 15:22.33 | mckenziemc | true |
| 15:22.49 | frostgram | the problem is all keys i press will be typed in the password field |
| 15:23.01 | haste | not the console key |
| 15:23.04 | haste | that one is caught |
| 15:23.21 | airtonix | guess i can't login then |
| 15:23.59 | frostgram | mhm, german keyboard and i have no clue which one it might be^^ |
| 15:24.32 | haste | close to enter I think |
| 15:24.40 | Fisker | haste |
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| 15:24.57 | Fisker | asus are jerks |
| 15:25.01 | Fisker | THEYRE VIOLATING THE SPECS |
| 15:25.11 | haste | Thomas |
| 15:25.16 | Fisker | haste |
| 15:25.22 | haste | Fisker |
| 15:25.27 | Fisker | thanks |
| 15:25.30 | Fisker | haste |
| 15:25.35 | haste | yw |
| 15:25.36 | airtonix | they're |
| 15:25.36 | Fisker | asus are violating usb spec omg omg omg? |
| 15:25.41 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 15:25.48 | Fisker | im mad i dont have to use ' |
| 15:27.53 | TC-Laptop | you mean `? |
| 15:28.06 | bluspacecow | i do believe its --console |
| 15:28.14 | Fisker | no TC-Laptop |
| 15:28.16 | haste | -console |
| 15:28.19 | haste | is correct |
| 15:28.20 | Fisker | bluspacecow you're --console |
| 15:28.34 | frostgram | well i tried either way and no key seems to be the right one |
| 15:28.35 | haste | you can change the console key tho' |
| 15:28.46 | Fisker | double --'s is only for linux jerks |
| 15:28.49 | Kraps | Erin Brockovich in 720p |
| 15:28.51 | Fisker | can? |
| 15:29.06 | bluspacecow | what o/s frost ? |
| 15:29.12 | Fisker | Kraps what about 1080p? |
| 15:29.14 | haste | frostgram: give me a sec and I'll check if the CVar still is there |
| 15:29.36 | airtonix | the dream is collapsing |
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| 15:30.20 | Fisker | it isn't airtonix |
| 15:30.27 | Fisker | no sound yet atleast |
| 15:30.44 | airtonix | that's because your 10 levels deep |
| 15:30.59 | Fisker | :E? |
| 15:31.08 | Kraps | Fisker: 1080p isnt always available and 720 is enough |
| 15:35.13 | haste | frostgram: log-in -> /run SetConsoleKey'0' -> restart WoW |
| 15:35.20 | haste | frostgram: replace 0 with something smart |
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| 15:40.06 | Adys | http://guru.googlelabs.com/ |
| 15:40.10 | Adys | my new best friend ^ |
| 15:40.13 | Adys | (sorry Kalroth) |
| 15:41.54 | Kalroth | fffffff |
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| 15:43.22 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:43.40 | Adys | While we do not have to be a part of the products, and the other is a more detailed description of the invention is to provide a method for the determination of the degree of the polynomial is a polynomial. |
| 15:43.46 | |Jelly| | I'll station you! |
| 15:44.08 | Lunessa | ... hawt? |
| 15:44.19 | |Jelly| | Pretty much the hottest thing ... ever. |
| 15:45.43 | Lunessa | mornings are evil. Let's start the day at say... noon? |
| 15:45.55 | |Jelly| | It's it 15 until 11? |
| 15:46.10 | |Jelly| | Even I'm up at 11. :P |
| 15:47.01 | mckenziemc | then afternoons would be evil |
| 15:47.31 | airtonix | your face is |
| 15:48.07 | Lunessa | I'm not a morning person. And I wish I were still sleeping right now. |
| 15:48.27 | Adys | Lunessa: just to piss you off, I'm going to take a nap |
| 15:48.33 | airtonix | i'm lucky i my boss lets me rock up whenever and lets me leave whenever |
| 15:48.39 | Lunessa | Goddamnit. |
| 15:48.45 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 15:48.47 | mckenziemc | the first few hours after you get up are evil* |
| 15:48.51 | Lunessa | nou |
| 15:48.59 | airtonix | the secret is |
| 15:49.09 | airtonix | wake up 3hrs before you need to leave the bed |
| 15:49.21 | airtonix | read book |
| 15:49.24 | airtonix | profit |
| 15:49.44 | Lunessa | No, I think the secret is morning sex. |
| 15:49.56 | airtonix | that's only a short term fix |
| 15:50.00 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 15:50.02 | airtonix | and when you come down of that |
| 15:50.16 | airtonix | you'll be wanking in the toilets at work |
| 15:50.17 | Lunessa | But then mornings are something to look forward to, and be excited about. |
| 15:50.49 | airtonix | (or finding the local easy person to help you) |
| 15:51.44 | airtonix | Lunessa: just make sure you don't get comprimised and wake up tied up in some hentai bondage stuff |
| 15:52.01 | airtonix | i'm pretty sure you won't get to work at all |
| 15:52.12 | Lunessa | ... This sounds like my usual Saturday... |
| 15:52.25 | airtonix | you work on saturday? |
| 15:52.46 | airtonix | oh you mean the being tied up part |
| 15:53.08 | Lunessa | Once a month, like it or not. This month has been fortunate - office has been closed every Saturday. |
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| 16:06.31 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2011/05/27/if-you-never-watch-another-kitten-video-again-make-this-the-last-one-trust-me/ |
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| 16:10.36 | Cide | yay |
| 16:10.59 | Cide | fedora stopped failing |
| 16:15.10 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:16.57 | Kraftman | has anyone messed aroudn with 3d lua frameworks? |
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| 16:40.07 | karl_w_w | !api leavep |
| 16:40.08 | lua_bot | LeaveParty: Exits the current party or raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/LeaveParty) |
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| 16:59.00 | mckenziemc | has Mind Sear always been castable on friendly units, or is that a Cataclysm change |
| 17:01.11 | Lunessa | 4.0 change |
| 17:01.19 | Lunessa | Maybe a little earlier. |
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| 17:07.44 | foxlit | "I'm working on a ActionBar-Framework." |
| 17:09.18 | foxlit | A surefire way to say "I'm doing something I shouldn't be" :) |
| 17:10.20 | nevcairiel | i kinda did that last year |
| 17:10.26 | nevcairiel | i wrote a library to manage buttons for you |
| 17:11.13 | foxlit | The rest of the post was "oh hey I'm replacing SetPoint with a null function to ensure NOBODY ELSE MOVES MY STUFF, but now I can't call SetPoint. Halp." |
| 17:11.19 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:14.23 | bluspacecow | in other words herp derp did some crap now am stuck |
| 17:15.10 | foxlit | I am of course paraphrasing, the actual post was polite and thought-out, if technically deficient. |
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| 17:32.40 | Lunessa | station. |
| 17:35.01 | mckenziemc | ranger |
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| 17:36.48 | cogwheel | Fisker: are you guanophrenic? |
| 17:37.57 | kd3 | I wonder if the mc forums have calmed down any? |
| 17:38.00 | kd3 | assumes not |
| 17:38.15 | Wobin | checks kd3's forehead for fever |
| 17:38.53 | cogwheel | come play on my server! |
| 17:38.59 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:39.19 | kd3 | what's your address? I'll probably hop on at some point |
| 17:39.28 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.54 | Cide | calm down from what? |
| 17:40.00 | cogwheel | 1.6 bugginess? |
| 17:40.10 | Cide | big surprise |
| 17:40.15 | cogwheel | (dunno... i haven't whored those forums yet) |
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| 17:41.56 | Lunessa | *sigh* I love migrating to a new version of Exchange. |
| 17:45.37 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:45.40 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:45.49 | Cide | no. |
| 17:45.52 | cogwheel | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large sack of guano |
| 17:46.00 | Fisker | i got an eee pad transformer cogwheel |
| 17:46.22 | cogwheel | THEY NAMED A TABLET AFTER ME?!??! |
| 17:46.29 | cogwheel | feels so special |
| 17:46.39 | cogwheel | (read: lern2comma) |
| 17:48.06 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 17:53.30 | |Jelly| | I don't understand why mages don't just put up a table in every instance. :| |
| 17:56.07 | Wobin | cause people usually rush off and pull the first group |
| 17:56.16 | Wobin | and mages need other people to click the portal |
| 17:58.22 | Cide | I don't understand why people need tables imo |
| 17:58.35 | durcyn | just life tap, chump |
| 17:59.15 | bluspacecow | @jelly cause some mages are lazy mages and forget to buy the special dust for it |
| 17:59.31 | bluspacecow | not thinking of anyone in particular of course *whistles innocnently* |
| 18:01.23 | |Jelly| | Is there not a minor that makes that not need a reagent? |
| 18:02.43 | bluspacecow | ...... |
| 18:02.52 | bluspacecow | this is why i am a bad mage |
| 18:03.25 | |Jelly| | That was an honest question - I really don't know |
| 18:04.23 | kd3 | no minor |
| 18:04.26 | kd3 | it takes 5 dust a table |
| 18:04.36 | kd3 | with that, to work! |
| 18:06.43 | |Jelly| | ahh |
| 18:10.20 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 18:10.22 | Fisker | waves |
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| 18:24.10 | Fisker | it's Dotted Dotted^ |
| 18:24.18 | Fisker | gotta go down on Dotted^ |
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| 18:28.23 | karl_w_w | die Fisker die |
| 18:30.02 | Fisker | why karl_w_w ? |
| 18:30.04 | Fisker | hello Parnic |
| 18:30.11 | Fisker | i see you rolling |
| 18:35.24 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3306-NOT-a-Security-Episode |
| 18:37.17 | Fisker | hello Kraps |
| 18:37.27 | Kraps | no Fisker |
| 18:37.47 | Fisker | yes Kraps ? |
| 18:37.51 | Kraps | no Fisker |
| 18:38.18 | Fisker | yes Kraps ? |
| 18:38.29 | Kraps | no Fisker no |
| 18:39.07 | Fisker | it's yes time? |
| 18:41.04 | Kraps | its no time for yes time Fisker |
| 18:42.43 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 18:51.24 | foxlit | meh, extra credits |
| 18:51.30 | foxlit | What obnoxious point do they have to make this week? |
| 18:53.48 | Fisker | LOL |
| 18:54.03 | bluspacecow | pretty much herp derp i dunno security but still going to do episode on it |
| 18:54.06 | Fisker | we can't blame sony! |
| 18:54.12 | Fisker | of course we can |
| 18:54.19 | Fisker | their security was fucking shitty |
| 18:54.58 | Fisker | Had you seen a bank made entirely out of glass you wouldn't have been first in line to complain when a bunch of robbers throw a stone through the vault and get all of peoples valuable |
| 18:54.59 | Fisker | s |
| 18:54.59 | Parnic | no fisker |
| 18:55.04 | Fisker | yes Parnic |
| 18:55.10 | Parnic | yes fisker |
| 18:55.14 | Fisker | thank you Parnic |
| 18:55.16 | Kraps | thats not his point Fisker |
| 18:55.49 | Fisker | when you start off with that the rest of his point is moot |
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| 19:05.29 | Gnarfoz | can I manually load a loadable LoD addon? how? |
| 19:05.32 | Gnarfoz | !api loadaddon |
| 19:05.32 | lua_bot | LoadAddOn: Loads a LoadOnDemand-capable addon (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/LoadAddOn) |
| 19:07.21 | Gnarfoz | I guess I have my answer ;] |
| 19:08.37 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 19:08.38 | Fisker | i like people |
| 19:08.53 | Fisker | "Why isn't Bind on Battle.net items Bind on Realm?" |
| 19:09.05 | Fisker | "I really want to hear what other people think" |
| 19:09.12 | Fisker | Then i ask him why BoE's aren't Bind on Realm |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker | "Please stay out of my thread kthx" |
| 19:09.31 | Fisker | umadbrah |
| 19:10.09 | Cairenn|afk | Wobin: yeah, I squeeeeee'd over that one last night :) |
| 19:14.35 | bluspacecow | the one with the mummy cat and the kitten ? |
| 19:14.45 | Cairenn|afk | yeah :) |
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| 19:15.32 | bluspacecow | do people from the netherlands know the concept of what "of" is in english ? |
| 19:15.48 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:16.04 | bluspacecow | email received from someone in the netherlands |
| 19:16.07 | bluspacecow | "Possibility internship" |
| 19:16.16 | industrial | .. ofcourse we do |
| 19:16.22 | bluspacecow | would be more impressive if it was "Possibility of internship" IMHO |
| 19:16.31 | industrial | I'd expect them to have written for |
| 19:16.40 | industrial | which is what we say in dutch, literally. |
| 19:16.47 | bluspacecow | that works too |
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| 19:17.40 | Gnarfoz | "Possible internship" ftw |
| 19:17.46 | Gnarfoz | but what they actually wrote: fail |
| 19:18.35 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 19:18.36 | bluspacecow | forwarded it to personall to deal with on Monday. |
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| 19:33.49 | Kraps | the heck kind of advertising scheme is this? http://kotaku.com/5806290/the-miami-heat-appear-to-have-messed-up-the-gears-of-war-3-hype-train |
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| 19:38.59 | Fisker | why would you do such a thing haste ? |
| 19:40.06 | Dewin | Why is Openoffice's search/replace so lousy :-/ |
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| 19:40.35 | Fisker | s/'s search/replace/ |
| 19:40.41 | Fisker | (in b4 escaping /) |
| 19:41.16 | Dewin | Trying to replace every \n with a literal \n followed by an actual \n. Replace interprets \\n\n as TWO literal backslashes, followed by n, followed by a newline. |
| 19:46.27 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes nows |
| 19:48.08 | Jamash | sup |
| 19:48.31 | Jamash | Dewin: numeric escapes ftw |
| 19:50.03 | Dewin | Jamash: I don't think that'll fly well with what I'm trying to do. |
| 19:50.10 | Jamash | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:50.27 | Dewin | besides, the fact that it's apparently impossible to insert a literal backslash through a regexp in OOO screams of 'broken' |
| 19:50.43 | Jamash | oh lord OOO |
| 19:51.03 | Jamash | well, at least it's not excel |
| 19:51.18 | Dewin | Hah. It's Excel/Calc's limitation of not allowing multiline data in cells that brought me to this problem in the first place. |
| 19:51.31 | Jamash | try getting anything useful done with search and replace in the first place |
| 19:51.39 | Jamash | *in excel |
| 19:51.52 | Jamash | what do you mean not allowing multiline data? |
| 19:52.04 | Dewin | You can't have an "enter" in a cell. It continues to the next cell. |
| 19:52.12 | Jamash | NYET |
| 19:52.22 | Jamash | you are misinformed sir |
| 19:52.27 | Dagmar | ctrl-enter prolly |
| 19:52.40 | Jamash | ctrl-enter in calc, I think shift-enter in excel |
| 19:52.42 | Dewin | Well, you couldn't as of the last version of Excel I used (admittably Office 97) |
| 19:52.52 | Jamash | I think you were doing it wrong |
| 19:53.22 | Dewin | Of course, I'm dealing with 304 pages of data someone else put together, and the first version (which WAS in Excel) they thought to make newlines by just entering enough spaces to force it to wrap... |
| 19:53.35 | Jamash | it's a little tricky to insert newlines in formulas |
| 19:53.46 | Dewin | Oh hey |
| 19:53.49 | Jamash | Dewin: ugh |
| 19:54.01 | Dewin | I don't need to do the whole search/replace business in the first place, I apparently can copy the table straight into Calc and it works. |
| 19:55.27 | Dewin | Whether that'll work after I translate enough stuff to make SQL queries out of it is another story entirely |
| 19:57.06 | Dewin | or.... somehow what I'm copying and what I'm pasting are not even close to the same. |
| 19:57.13 | Jamash | I once saved my boss an entire day by taking some weird document and using a combination of copy+paste and save as html to move it from some ghastly report generator into a usable spreadsheet |
| 19:58.20 | Jamash | it wouldn't have been at all difficult but this was a US Census computer system where we weren't allowed to install _anything_ |
| 19:59.17 | Jamash | our HTTP firewall had a whitelist |
| 19:59.22 | Jamash | it was pretty bad |
| 20:00.01 | Dewin | So get this, I can copy parts of the table into the spreadsheet but I get entirely different (text) values. |
| 20:00.59 | mikma | ummmmmm |
| 20:01.10 | mikma | has CLEU been changed lately? |
| 20:01.26 | AcidWeb | Once in 4.1 and second time in 4.2 |
| 20:02.10 | mikma | that may be the reason why it has break my addon |
| 20:04.27 | mckenziemc | no, i'm the reason your addon broke |
| 20:06.12 | Jamash | A wizard did it |
| 20:15.34 | Torhal|work | You've been eaten by a grue. |
| 20:18.16 | mckenziemc | grues Torhal to the ceiling |
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| 20:22.13 | Jamash | quest text: "Do something huntery to it" |
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| 20:34.24 | Fisker-- | Butt |
| 20:34.31 | Fisker-- | Hee hee |
| 20:34.54 | cogwheel | anyone just get an e-mail from sony offering credit proteciton? |
| 20:35.01 | Fisker-- | No |
| 20:35.09 | Fisker-- | We dont need it |
| 20:36.50 | Fisker-- | Qwertyuiopåasdfghjkllæøzxcvbnm |
| 20:37.17 | mckenziemc | ',.pyfgcrl/=aoeuidhtns-;qjkxbmwvz |
| 20:40.49 | cogwheel | agrees with mckenziemc |
| 20:42.06 | Jamash | my keyboard keys are arranged in order by unicode codepoint |
| 20:45.50 | Fisker | oh no cogwheel |
| 20:45.56 | Fisker | i got one too |
| 20:46.05 | Torhal|work | installs OS/2 on Fisker. |
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| 21:03.19 | Fisker | one Torhal|work left |
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| 21:13.44 | DWSR | oh hai |
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| 21:20.23 | Cide | how hard is it to make a fucking java server work |
| 21:20.24 | Cide | honestly |
| 21:20.32 | DWSR | Cide: errrr.....? |
| 21:20.33 | haste | minecraft much? |
| 21:20.40 | Cide | not so much since it's not working |
| 21:20.51 | DWSR | Cide: Not very? |
| 21:20.56 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 21:20.59 | Fisker | are you hasty? |
| 21:21.00 | Cide | exactly my point |
| 21:21.09 | haste | Fisker: needs more acid |
| 21:22.51 | DWSR | haste: Don't you mean purple? |
| 21:22.59 | haste | no :( |
| 21:24.05 | DWSR | I'm sure that you do, actually. |
| 21:24.36 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ktws5SR5A no, this. |
| 21:25.32 | haste | too bad he only does jazzish stuff now (even though he does a great job there as well) |
| 21:25.52 | Fisker | why do i need acid? |
| 21:26.18 | haste | dunno, because it matches my mood? |
| 21:27.14 | Fisker | i cannot stop haste |
| 21:27.33 | haste | that's a good thing, isn'ti t? |
| 21:28.09 | Fisker | no |
| 21:32.11 | Jamash | Why doth my currency tab not work on the ptr, pray tell; |
| 21:32.20 | Fisker | no |
| 21:33.22 | Jamash | nou |
| 21:33.45 | cogwheel | YOU'RE a towell! |
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| 21:34.42 | mckenziemc | you're a trowel |
| 21:34.57 | Jamash | you're an inanimate @*#(ing object! |
| 21:35.13 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 21:36.08 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq7XG4XOJsc |
| 21:36.58 | Jamash | oshi |
| 21:37.09 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 21:41.28 | mckenziemc | hey Fiskercog |
| 21:42.18 | Fisker | hey |
| 21:43.12 | mckenziemc | this is from an old article but |
| 21:43.17 | mckenziemc | '"I wanted to let you know that I've requested that you be invited to the prerelease seed of Mac OS X Lion, and you should receive an invitation soon," said a letter sent by Apple to an unknown number of security researchers. "As you have reported Mac OS X security issues in the past, I thought that you might be interested in taking a look at this. It contains several improvements in the area of security countermeasures."' |
| 21:43.34 | mckenziemc | security *counter*measures eh |
| 21:44.35 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 21:44.43 | Jamash | mckenziemc: please find enclosed a cyanide tablet and incriminating photos of you with an ungulate |
| 21:45.46 | Fisker | well lets hope they implement proper aslr then |
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| 22:01.22 | Mischanix | Javascript combat log parsing. So cool. |
| 22:02.01 | Jamash | gack |
| 22:02.03 | mckenziemc | wut |
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| 22:04.07 | Fisker | http://www.gametrailers.com/video/debut-teaser-starcraft-ii/714345 <-WAT |
| 22:04.11 | Fisker | WAAAAAAAAAAAAT |
| 22:05.27 | haste | OMG TROLLED BY FISKER :( |
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| 22:07.05 | Jamash | oshi |
| 22:07.13 | Mischanix | javascript is so ugly :( |
| 22:07.14 | Fisker | u no trolled haste |
| 22:07.21 | Fisker | mtv ads are so ugly Mischanix |
| 22:07.27 | Fisker | i wanna punch them in the face |
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| 22:08.38 | Mischanix | javascript is uglier. |
| 22:08.54 | haste | Fisker: looks like it got pulled, fast :P |
| 22:09.02 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/g8-summit-laws-apply-on-internet-just-like-everywhere-else.ars |
| 22:09.24 | Jamash | well, that's a relief |
| 22:09.30 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un8VBSv1JOg same one Fisker ? |
| 22:10.19 | Jamash | so, laws only apply on the internet if you're not a giant corporation or a government or rich or politically connected |
| 22:11.30 | Kraps | yep, just like everywhare else |
| 22:11.45 | Fisker | yep haste |
| 22:11.45 | Jamash | yes, that was my point, thank you |
| 22:12.19 | Jamash | brb, finishing sc2 single player |
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| 22:17.35 | Fisker | oh so in a way i were trolling you haste |
| 22:17.38 | Fisker | well done then |
| 22:24.39 | haste | gj! |
| 22:24.59 | haste | Fisker is so good at trolling that he doesn't even have to try! |
| 22:28.25 | Lunessa | BlackBerry - increasingly irrelevant and endlessly frustrating devices. Why do people keep buying them? |
| 22:28.56 | Fisker | because Lunessa |
| 22:28.58 | Fisker | they're black |
| 22:29.03 | Fisker | don't want to be racist now do we? |
| 22:30.21 | Lunessa | fu |
| 22:31.45 | Kraps | so the terribleness of the white iphone is a metaphor for White guilt Fisker? |
| 22:32.19 | Lunessa | And now that I've determined there's something wrong with the damned handset, I'm off to try to enjoy my 3-day weekend. |
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| 22:38.41 | foxlit | must construct additional thors |
| 22:40.07 | Fisker | sup foxlit |
| 22:40.15 | Fisker | preordered the 1000kr bill yet? |
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| 22:52.39 | Cide | hm |
| 22:56.26 | Cide | so I have a hash map (std::unordered_map) and one thread inserts stuff into it |
| 22:57.16 | Cide | think I can safely read from it without locking on writes assuming I only try and get objects that aren't in the process of being added? |
| 22:57.52 | Cide | I'm guessing it resizes itself sometimes |
| 22:58.06 | Cide | yep |
| 22:58.19 | jnwhiteh | if you're asking, the answer is to protect it =) |
| 22:58.27 | jnwhiteh | an RWMutex shouldn't be hard.. use a futex |
| 22:58.34 | foxlit | That's a coward's approach. |
| 22:58.41 | foxlit | The proper answer is "rtfm!" |
| 22:58.45 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 22:58.48 | Cide | it's hard to come up with specifics |
| 22:58.58 | Cide | but yes, I could just use a shared read, exclusive write |
| 22:59.03 | Cide | but I don't want to if I can avoid it |
| 22:59.54 | jnwhiteh | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1846186/thread-safety-of-stdmap-for-read-only-operations |
| 23:00.10 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 23:00.21 | Cide | that only talks about multiple concurrent reads |
| 23:00.50 | jnwhiteh | STL has no built in thread support, so you'll have to extend the STL code with your own synchronization mechanisms to use STL in a multithreaded environment |
| 23:00.59 | Cide | I'm aware |
| 23:01.03 | Fisker | oh ok goodbye jnwhiteh |
| 23:01.09 | foxlit | "If multiple threads access a single container, and at least one thread may potentially write, then the user is responsible for ensuring mutual exclusion between the threads during the container accesses." |
| 23:01.12 | foxlit | Even I understood that! |
| 23:01.13 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.13 | Cide | I'm wondering if it's necessary to introduce locking in this case |
| 23:01.22 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: k. |
| 23:01.26 | jnwhiteh | i'm goign to bed, want to join me? |
| 23:01.30 | Fisker | sure |
| 23:01.33 | jnwhiteh | there's a transformer (of some sort) in it for you |
| 23:01.38 | jnwhiteh | or in you for it |
| 23:01.38 | jnwhiteh | whichever works better |
| 23:01.38 | Fisker | think Apple can secure Mac OS this time around? |
| 23:01.49 | Fisker | hoho |
| 23:01.53 | jnwhiteh | macs are unimpenetrable. |
| 23:01.57 | Cide | naturally I can't read for a key that is being added |
| 23:02.01 | Fisker | exactly jnwhiteh |
| 23:02.02 | zenzelezz | hm, I don't know how to feel when people write "u're"... on the one hand I hate that they can't write "you", but on the other hand they at least got the "'re" right |
| 23:02.11 | Fisker | but they actually say "zomg we actually bothered with security this time" |
| 23:02.18 | foxlit | Cide: if you access while another thread rehashes, there will be egg on your face. |
| 23:02.21 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: security theatre. |
| 23:02.30 | Cide | it doesn't state that :) |
| 23:02.46 | Cide | it could just rehash it in a separate data structure and swap a pointer |
| 23:02.49 | foxlit | It states that you're responsible for making sure you don't access and write at the same time |
| 23:02.55 | Cide | yes |
| 23:03.07 | Cide | it doesn't state when it's necessary, only that I'm the one to blame should it not work |
| 23:03.07 | Fisker | anyway i should sleep jnwhiteh |
| 23:03.10 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 23:03.10 | Fisker | and it's your fault |
| 23:03.15 | jnwhiteh | see you in like.. a few minutes |
| 23:03.22 | jnwhiteh | need to finish 'things' up before I come to bed. |
| 23:05.29 | Cide | I don't know, it just seems to me like it should be possible for concurrent, thread safe reads given that I can guarantee that the key is in the map *even* if I'm concurrently inserting another key |
| 23:05.54 | Cide | but naturally the documentation only deals with the general case |
| 23:06.08 | jnwhiteh | well, concurrency can be difficult in a lock-based world |
| 23:06.19 | jnwhiteh | without modelling its dificult to give guarantees |
| 23:06.30 | jnwhiteh | who knows what the write implementation messes with (intentionally or not) |
| 23:06.55 | Cide | yep |
| 23:07.19 | Cide | I'd be inserting into it every time a new connection is made which is why I'd rather not have an exclusive write lock |
| 23:07.43 | Cide | but I can guarantee that I won't try and get() that key until the insert finishes |
| 23:08.04 | jnwhiteh | if you can *absolutely* guarantee that, then you have a synchronization point |
| 23:08.17 | jnwhiteh | what you can do with that depends, I'm not familiar with the STL unfortunately |
| 23:10.48 | Cide | yeah, I don't know either |
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| 23:11.29 | Cide | when it rebuilds the hash index it does it to reduce the load factor, so it must resize |
| 23:11.44 | Cide | seems like any sane implementation of that would just swap pointers at the end |
| 23:11.46 | Cide | but who knows |
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| 23:20.34 | cralor | trailer looks interesting |
| 23:23.45 | foxlit | who are we trailing? |
| 23:24.24 | mckenziemc | you |
| 23:24.34 | foxlit | "due to a copyright claim by GameTrailers"... Right. Totally blacklisting those guys |
| 23:26.43 | Fisker | one should file a dmca counter-claim |
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| 23:32.48 | cralor | there is some still up |
| 23:33.10 | Fisker | probably not long until google's video filtering shit kicks in though |
| 23:33.22 | Fisker | i'm not quite sure they have a legitimate dcma claim though |
| 23:33.34 | cralor | oh yep the one i watched is gone now :P |
| 23:34.17 | Arrowmaster | trailer for what? |
| 23:34.38 | cralor | it was SC2 Heart of the Swarm |
| 23:35.02 | cralor | GameTrailers was going to put it up or something ... got "leaked".. took it down.. got into youtubes. |
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| 23:36.07 | Fisker | one should DMCA bomb Gametrailers |
| 23:36.10 | Fisker | just for the heck of it |
| 23:37.29 | Arrowmaster | technically wouldnt gametrailers be voilating part of the dmca for sending a takedown when they arent the copyright holder |
| 23:38.12 | Fisker | exactly |
| 23:38.45 | Corrodias | yes |
| 23:38.57 | Fisker | i should almost copyright troll them |
| 23:38.59 | Fisker | upload |
| 23:39.02 | Fisker | dcma takedown |
| 23:39.06 | Fisker | dcma counter notice |
| 23:39.07 | Fisker | ??? |
| 23:39.08 | Corrodias | there may be an "or an authorized agent" clause and they may qualify, i don't know. |
| 23:39.08 | Fisker | profit |
| 23:39.12 | Fisker | dmca * |
| 23:40.35 | Corrodias | i don't remember exactly what a counter notice entitles you to. i know that, if the complainant doesn't respond to the counter notice, the host may, at its discretion, restore the content that was removed, but is in no way obligated to do so any more than they're obligated to host anybody's random videos. |
| 23:40.39 | Corrodias | or other material. |
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| 23:43.06 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRsFxfOEZa0&feature=player_embedded still works if you are interested |
| 23:44.11 | Fisker | it's annoying how all the youtube download extensions and sites suddenly went poof |
| 23:44.26 | Fisker | and those who still exist insist i download software and/or run java applets |
| 23:44.30 | Fisker | yeah that's gonna happen |
| 23:44.33 | Fisker | oh wait |
| 23:45.02 | Corrodias | i use a firefox extension for it |
| 23:45.31 | Corrodias | in other news, my open tabs that i "will totally deal with later" are getting out of control |
| 23:46.03 | Fisker | yeah Corrodias |
| 23:46.06 | Fisker | firefox suuuuuuuuuuucks |
| 23:46.16 | Fisker | plugincontainer.exe? luilzd |
| 23:46.20 | Fisker | lulzd* |
| 23:46.35 | Fisker | how is the sandboxing going? |
| 23:47.10 | Corrodias | i don't know anything about that. it's still a more enjoyable browser than chrome, which leaves, what, Opera and IE as the other serious contendors? |
| 23:47.29 | Fisker | kikwat |
| 23:47.30 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 23:47.42 | Cide | kekwat |
| 23:47.46 | Corrodias | sorry, "contenders" |
| 23:47.48 | Fisker | In what alternate reality is Firefox a more enjoyable browser than chrome? |
| 23:48.00 | mikma | this |
| 23:48.09 | Fisker | naw man |
| 23:48.15 | mikma | nam wan |
| 23:48.22 | Fisker | i'd prefer IE9 over Fx4 |
| 23:48.29 | mikma | sure, go ahead |
| 23:48.32 | Fisker | even though the IE9 UI is retarded |
| 23:48.36 | Corrodias | the reality where extensions are allowed to do stuff that chromium doesn't allow, where extensions that i enjoy exist, and where i can set the character encoding interpretation of a web page to what i want. |
| 23:48.36 | mikma | nn -> |
| 23:48.36 | Arrowmaster | ill consider chrome when it gets proper adblock and noscript like firefox |
| 23:49.06 | Stanzilla | adblock works fine |
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| 23:49.11 | Stanzilla | noscript is kinda wonky |
| 23:49.18 | Arrowmaster | they dont work the same |
| 23:49.39 | Arrowmaster | i dont want the ads hidden, i dont want any communication with the ad hosting site to even happen |
| 23:49.42 | Fisker | both extensions are horrible |
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| 23:52.31 | mckenziemc | orly |
| 23:52.35 | Fisker | yarly |
| 23:52.55 | Cide | hm, cmake question |
| 23:53.10 | Fisker | no that is a statement not a question |
| 23:53.18 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 23:53.18 | Fisker | and certainly not one of the cmake kind |
| 23:53.27 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 23:53.39 | Fisker | illegalize adblock and noscript amirite? |
| 23:53.42 | mckenziemc | reksif yeh |
| 23:53.54 | Cide | I have an executable and I define a bunch of source files to include, but I have them split in folders. there's no way to let each subdirectory define the files to include, is there? |
| 23:55.21 | mckenziemc | why do you say they're horrible fisker |
| 23:55.29 | Cide | or can I add_subdirectory() each folder, set() some variable and use that in that in the add_executable() call? |
| 23:55.40 | Cide | or something |
| 23:55.46 | Fisker | because mckenziemc |
| 23:55.47 | Cide | last time I tried I couldn't get it working and the documentation is awful |
| 23:56.10 | Fisker | adblocking should only be allowed for purposes of interoperability bam |
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