| 00:05.05 | TC-Laptop | i have one 'significant digit' right here for you foxlit |
| 00:05.32 | foxlit | The general tone of this channel seems to have degenerated |
| 00:06.08 | foxlit | it's penis this, significant digit that; honestly, more trolling than anything else. |
| 00:06.51 | TC-Laptop | so thats a no for trolling foxlit? |
| 00:07.32 | foxlit | Meh, I'm sure there's a place for all of that too. |
| 00:09.45 | TC-Laptop | well, 4chan isnt realtime enough |
| 00:11.23 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 00:11.35 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0gANjBrUDk&NR=1 |
| 00:14.47 | DWSR | Huzzah! |
| 00:14.58 | DWSR | Successfully ripped apart my externals and made them internals! |
| 00:15.17 | DWSR | Happy my board has an ATA connector on it. |
| 00:15.25 | Fisker | servicemen and women. |
| 00:15.26 | Fisker | lol |
| 00:18.26 | mckenziemc | serviceFiskers |
| 00:18.46 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:18.53 | DWSR | You can complete Portal 2 Co-Op with 1 person? |
| 00:18.54 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 00:18.54 | Fisker | no mckenziemc |
| 00:19.04 | Fisker | only using exploits DWSR |
| 00:19.19 | DWSR | Fisker: Apparently, everything but opening the doors is possible with just 1 person |
| 00:19.32 | DWSR | i.e. the doors that require that both of you are there. |
| 00:19.35 | potatoe | hello. where should I start looking to figure out why addons are "out-of-date"? i'm thinking it might be an easy way to get started if i "fix" some of these out of date addons (especially if they merely need some string updated somewhere) |
| 00:19.45 | Fisker | there is atleast one that is impossible |
| 00:19.59 | Fisker | and i can think of a few others being borderline impossible |
| 00:20.07 | DWSR | potatoe: Addons are out of date because their ToC version is different that the most recent one. |
| 00:20.20 | Fisker | (i.e. impossible, unless there's some stupid silly exploit didn't know about) |
| 00:20.20 | potatoe | ToC = table of contents? |
| 00:20.37 | DWSR | potatoe: http://www.wowpedia.org/TOC_format |
| 00:20.38 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 00:20.41 | potatoe | ah, googling "toc version" brings up some interesting results |
| 00:20.45 | potatoe | thanks |
| 00:20.57 | foxlit | [but you shouldn't "fix" them -- check the enable out of date addons and move on] |
| 00:21.00 | DWSR | Fisker: There's a couple that I call bullshit, but there's a YT vid of some guy doing most of them by himself. |
| 00:21.05 | DWSR | what foxlit said. |
| 00:21.19 | DWSR | A lot of times, addons are out of date because authors don't care to update the toc file. |
| 00:21.25 | DWSR | And not because they're actually broken in some way. |
| 00:21.54 | DWSR | And out of date addon doesn't mean incompatible or buggy. It just means it was written to run against a certain version of the client. |
| 00:22.05 | DWSR | If you change the toc file, you may break addon updaters like Curse Client or Minion. |
| 00:22.17 | potatoe | oic. |
| 00:22.44 | potatoe | i had been operating under the assumption that out-of-date addons were incompatible/buggy until proven otherwise, so had not enabled out-of-date addons. |
| 00:22.49 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 00:23.13 | Torhal | Uh |
| 00:23.15 | DWSR | An addon's out of date status is controlled by 1 number in the toc file and has absolutely nothing to do with anything else. |
| 00:23.19 | Torhal | MAY be incompatible |
| 00:23.31 | DWSR | That would be a better way to phrase it, yeah. |
| 00:23.38 | Torhal | It's up to the author to decide if it is or not, and hopefully update the version if it's compatible |
| 00:24.58 | DWSR | Oh fuck yes. |
| 00:25.07 | DWSR | If my computer was a saiyan, it would be super. |
| 00:25.10 | DWSR | And on fire. |
| 00:25.17 | DWSR | And shooting energy beams at aliens. |
| 00:25.29 | DWSR | anyway, bbl |
| 00:28.43 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
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| 00:40.45 | Cide | Shirik can't destroy anyone |
| 00:40.46 | Cide | he only heals |
| 00:44.17 | Fisker | i wish i could destroy you Cide |
| 00:47.58 | Cide | my self healing > you rawr |
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| 01:15.03 | Corrodias2 | "Before you begin posting away, we'll need you merge your existing site account with your Curse ID." |
| 01:15.20 | Corrodias2 | well, guess i'm not posting on that forum again without a damn good reason. |
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| 01:28.12 | Arrowmaster | minecraft forum? |
| 01:34.32 | kd3 | hm, so have any aussies/new zealanders been enraptured yet? my facebook contacts seem to indicate "no" |
| 01:34.52 | kd3 | almost wish I could be at work tomorrow to see some of the fundies' faces, if they come in, since they'll still be here |
| 01:36.04 | mckenziemc1 | not supposed to happen till 6PM their time |
| 01:36.14 | mckenziemc1 | dunno what time it is now but i don't think its 6 yet |
| 01:37.10 | A-KO | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=755 |
| 01:37.19 | A-KO | oh nm |
| 01:37.19 | A-KO | lol |
| 01:37.24 | A-KO | thye're on this side of the time zone |
| 01:37.40 | kd3 | the hell? a new blizz downloader on the ptr, getting another tools update? |
| 01:37.44 | A-KO | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=274 |
| 01:40.19 | A-KO | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1985162/kittycar.jpg < took this pic today while going for lunch at work |
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| 01:59.42 | Shirik | my healing > your healing Cide |
| 02:00.08 | Mr_Rabies | zomg how did you find my car A-KO |
| 02:03.02 | Corrodias2 | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 02:03.50 | Cidan | my healing > your healing Shirik |
| 02:03.55 | Shirik | no |
| 02:04.00 | Shirik | omg Cidan |
| 02:04.01 | Shirik | hi |
| 02:04.01 | Cidan | actually, since I don't play anymore, no, not really |
| 02:04.02 | Cidan | hi |
| 02:04.03 | Cidan | xD |
| 02:08.12 | mckenziemc1 | ~fiskerslap Cidan |
| 02:08.13 | purl | ACTION slaps Cidan around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 02:20.59 | kd3 | lawyers are insane... |
| 02:21.12 | kd3 | "Apple: an 'App Store' Is Not a Store For Apps" |
| 02:25.17 | Seerah | o.O |
| 02:25.26 | Corrodias2 | of course not! |
| 02:25.36 | Corrodias2 | it's a business-critical licensing portal |
| 02:25.39 | Corrodias2 | :V |
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| 02:33.09 | Arrowmaster | its a machine that prints money |
| 02:38.23 | airtonix | so i was at the corner shop this morning and the shop owner vanished in front of my eyes |
| 02:41.13 | Thunder_Child | dont shut your eyes |
| 02:41.39 | airtonix | hoho |
| 02:43.34 | airtonix | so blizzard in china tried to communicate with me but i can't read chinese |
| 02:44.18 | Cide | Shirik: oh yeah? |
| 02:44.28 | Cide | Shirik: combat log for heroic magmaw plz |
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| 02:49.08 | cogwheel | ~fiskerslap Fisker- |
| 02:49.08 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker- around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 03:13.26 | Shirik | Cide: I did 50k hps |
| 03:13.46 | Cide | I don't think that's possible in this expansion |
| 03:14.01 | Cide | for a time window > 10 seconds |
| 03:14.15 | Cide | or > 2 seconds |
| 03:15.52 | Cide | sorry for closing your loophole! |
| 03:26.40 | Shirik | Cide, this is epic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QfP0nSrZk4 |
| 03:27.16 | Cide | 65 likes and 0 dislikes |
| 03:27.18 | Cide | is this a setup |
| 03:27.39 | Cide | speaking of epic |
| 03:27.43 | Cide | how's that loot flow coming |
| 03:27.44 | Shirik | no fu |
| 03:27.52 | Shirik | I knew where that wa sgoing |
| 03:27.57 | Cide | hahaha |
| 03:28.29 | Cide | I need to buy new headphones :'( |
| 03:28.36 | Cide | or headset I suppose |
| 03:28.44 | Cide | any recommendations |
| 03:28.46 | Cide | ? |
| 03:28.46 | kd3 | haha, wth... "The end of the World is starting a little early: Strong 6.5-magnitude earthquake hits off coast of Papua New Guinea [Scary]" |
| 03:29.28 | kd3 | http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/strong-65-magnitude-earthquake-hits-off-coast-of-papua-new-guinea/story-e6frf7jx-1226056555864 |
| 03:31.25 | Shirik | wtf CIde |
| 03:31.26 | Shirik | no headset |
| 03:31.32 | Cide | ? |
| 03:31.33 | Shirik | you need a 5.1 1000W sound system |
| 03:31.50 | Cide | I think my girlfriend will be pleased given that I raid from 2:30 am to 6am |
| 03:32.07 | Shirik | teach her to raid |
| 03:32.30 | Cide | she has a level 8 warrior named Coggy but that's about it |
| 03:32.55 | kd3 | a kilowatt sound system? |
| 03:32.56 | kd3 | boggles |
| 03:33.37 | Shirik | I think 1000W isn't that much |
| 03:33.39 | Shirik | but it's enough for me |
| 03:33.42 | Cide | pretty good song though |
| 03:33.46 | Adys | Shirik: what is it with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ning1.gif |
| 03:34.00 | Cide | would probably be better with a working headset |
| 03:34.20 | Shirik | something tells me that's not allowed |
| 03:34.52 | Shirik | I'm not good with NFCC though |
| 03:35.16 | Adys | its a gif of a pure text email |
| 03:35.18 | Adys | it makes me cry |
| 03:35.34 | Shirik | also Cide what do you mean pretty good song |
| 03:35.36 | Shirik | it's an epic song |
| 03:36.52 | Cide | now now |
| 03:37.28 | Cide | my headset is so fucked up I cannot score it higher in good conscience |
| 03:39.42 | Thunder_Child | hardly epic Shirik |
| 03:41.15 | Iriel | Shirik: why 5.1 not 7.1? |
| 03:41.37 | Iriel | Cide: I have a Logitech G35 headset which I like a lot |
| 03:41.50 | Cide | I was looking at that one |
| 03:41.57 | Cide | and the g930 which seems to be the wireless version |
| 03:42.15 | Thunder_Child | Cide: does it need a mic? |
| 03:42.19 | Cide | yes |
| 03:42.39 | Cide | I read the g35/g930 have good noise cancelling too which is nice |
| 03:42.41 | Thunder_Child | i'm more preferential to headset and mic. |
| 03:42.49 | Thunder_Child | desktop mic* |
| 03:42.49 | Cide | I'm not and I'm buying :) |
| 03:43.16 | Thunder_Child | more flexibility |
| 03:43.54 | Cide | but so annoying |
| 03:44.00 | Cide | also less flexibility |
| 03:44.05 | Shirik | Iriel: I have a G35 also |
| 03:44.06 | Shirik | Love it |
| 03:44.09 | Shirik | (and Cide) |
| 03:44.15 | Thunder_Child | more, not less |
| 03:44.15 | Cide | you love me? |
| 03:44.21 | Shirik | Also, because I have a 5.1 not a 7.1 :( |
| 03:44.32 | Cide | I think we're moving a bit fast |
| 03:44.41 | Shirik | I have a G35, I love it |
| 03:44.44 | Shirik | I also love Cide |
| 03:44.47 | Shirik | I also love my 5.1 sound system |
| 03:44.51 | Shirik | but I wish I had a 7.1 sound system |
| 03:45.01 | Shirik | got it |
| 03:45.02 | Cide | so who's the 7.1 |
| 03:45.03 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:45.04 | Cide | if I'm only a 5.1 |
| 03:45.07 | Cide | qqqq |
| 03:45.29 | Iriel | I have a 7.1 system |
| 03:45.33 | Shirik | wtb :( |
| 03:45.34 | Iriel | "Only" 125 W per channel tho |
| 03:45.38 | Shirik | First I need a new computer though |
| 03:45.42 | Shirik | then I can get a 7.1 |
| 03:46.05 | Iriel | Ah, I only have 5.1 connected to my computer, 7.1 connected to the consoles and media players |
| 03:46.21 | Shirik | This is my current setup |
| 03:47.54 | Arrowmaster | all the computer speakers out there suck now, if you want good speeker youll have to go for home theater ones and connect them to a receiver |
| 03:47.54 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fa2404ef8b2b9653701ba50634a88d4e.jpg |
| 03:47.58 | Shirik | it needs more computer :( |
| 03:48.11 | Cide | oh yes it does |
| 03:48.32 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: truth |
| 03:48.43 | Shirik | agree with Arrowmaster too |
| 03:48.51 | Adys | Cide: you ever dealt with multipart uploads? |
| 03:49.02 | Cide | what's that specifically |
| 03:49.05 | Arrowmaster | when i thought my creative megaworks 650 was blown i was about to go crazy |
| 03:49.07 | Cide | that's a maybe |
| 03:49.36 | Adys | Cide: large (>5gb) file uploads in my case |
| 03:49.39 | Iriel | http://www.paradigm.com/products/paradigm/floorstanding/monitor-series/monitor-7 |
| 03:49.41 | Cide | ah |
| 03:49.43 | Cide | yeah |
| 03:49.54 | Iriel | (though mine are something like 10 years old, so the specs are a bit different) |
| 03:49.56 | Cide | what web server? |
| 03:50.13 | Adys | its for an amazon s3 client |
| 03:50.51 | Thunder_Child | Adys: what interface does s3 give? |
| 03:50.53 | Cide | doubt I can help you much |
| 03:51.22 | Arrowmaster | its practically impossible to find the specs for my speakers now |
| 03:51.27 | Adys | Thunder_Child: dunno, never dealt with it before |
| 03:51.59 | Iriel | Im trying to convince myself that I should buy http://www.anthemav.com/products/anthem/a-v-processor/avm-50v-2 |
| 03:52.22 | Iriel | And simultaneously that I shouldn't |
| 03:52.43 | Arrowmaster | holy shit |
| 03:52.56 | Thunder_Child | 8 HDMI inputs? really... |
| 03:52.58 | Arrowmaster | that does video too though |
| 03:54.19 | Iriel | I have it's predecessor, the AVM20 (with some upgrades) |
| 03:54.26 | Iriel | Sounds incredible |
| 03:56.19 | Arrowmaster | oh hey i found a pdf of a user manual for mine, although its not really mine since this one has a digital input and mine doesnt but its the same model number |
| 03:57.08 | Arrowmaster | Satellite Power: 70Watts RMS per channel (6 channel) |
| 03:57.36 | Arrowmaster | Subwoofer Power: 150Watts RMS |
| 03:58.02 | Arrowmaster | 150 on a sub is more than enough |
| 03:58.03 | Iriel | My sub's somewhere in the 250 W (750 W peak) range |
| 03:58.17 | Iriel | But it's pretty large |
| 03:58.23 | Arrowmaster | mine can shake the entire house |
| 03:58.42 | Arrowmaster | like fucking every window rattling |
| 03:58.57 | Arrowmaster | probably even the windows of the neighbors houses |
| 04:03.30 | Cairenn|afk | bleeter, Wobin: ping? |
| 04:06.34 | cogwheel | http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/dont-be-ugly-by-accident/ |
| 04:06.56 | cogwheel | "iphone users have more sex" |
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| 04:08.27 | cogwheel | i wonder why there's a spike around 4am for #photos by time taken |
| 04:09.28 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 04:14.48 | rtr54g | hey |
| 04:15.44 | rtr54g | My cutting math class has caught up to me. I need some help. =X I'm trying to rotate an arrow around a semi-oblong circle using :SetRotation and changing anchors, and I have no idea how to even begin to do that. |
| 04:16.20 | rtr54g | Anyone know of any example code, reading material, or can help me figure it out? |
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| 04:18.27 | airtonix | ringmod |
| 04:18.30 | airtonix | gogo |
| 04:18.35 | Iriel | rtr54g: http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/TextureSpinTest-0.1-10900.zip ? |
| 04:18.43 | Iriel | That's _OLD_ tho, it may be too old |
| 04:18.43 | airtonix | rtr54g: search for it on the wowuidev forums |
| 04:19.02 | bluspacecow | @airtonix we has such a thing ? |
| 04:19.25 | airtonix | bluspacecow: yes, someone made a post outlining the concept before posting the ouf layout for it |
| 04:19.28 | Iriel | Actually, never mind, that'll be less useful than you want because it's got the math but in a not very friendly way |
| 04:19.52 | Iriel | The anchor's pretty easy wid * sin(a), hgt * cos(a) |
| 04:20.10 | rtr54g | Can't even find it. Is that the thing that ArcHud was written on? I'm doing something different |
| 04:20.32 | airtonix | is it though? |
| 04:20.36 | rtr54g | I want to move the texture along the outer edge of the oval while rotating it to continuosly point at the edge. |
| 04:20.55 | Iriel | But it's not a circle? |
| 04:21.04 | rtr54g | Not perfectly circular, no |
| 04:21.32 | Iriel | The "trick" is that you have to calculate 2 things |
| 04:21.33 | rtr54g | So I guess that means an outright no. Like I said I don't know any of the math. |
| 04:21.48 | Iriel | (1) the offset from the center of the oval to the edge (using the formula above) |
| 04:21.58 | airtonix | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=148503 |
| 04:22.16 | Iriel | then (2) the offset from the center of the texture to the edge (using the same formula, angle 180 degrees off, and wid * hgt will be the same) |
| 04:22.31 | Iriel | then you add the offsets together and that gives you the offste from the center of the oval to the center of the texture |
| 04:22.43 | Iriel | (You may have to adjust further depending on what you're rotating around) |
| 04:24.50 | rtr54g | Width/height of.. the oval? |
| 04:28.29 | Iriel | yes |
| 04:29.23 | bleeter | Cairenn: PONG?! |
| 04:29.44 | Cairenn | bleeter: you're still there! oh noez, does this mean you're going to hell? |
| 04:29.44 | Thunder_Child | thats a big pong there bleeter |
| 04:29.57 | Thunder_Child | what do you mean /going/? |
| 04:30.13 | bleeter | Cairenn: 3h30m to go |
| 04:30.19 | Cairenn | ah, okay then |
| 04:30.30 | Cairenn | I'll poke you again in 3h45m |
| 04:30.36 | bleeter | promises |
| 04:30.43 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 04:30.44 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was supposed to be 6PM PST |
| 04:30.50 | rtr54g | I' |
| 04:30.50 | Thunder_Child | 5/20 |
| 04:30.53 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: nah, 6PM localtime everywhere |
| 04:30.59 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:31.01 | bleeter | http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/laurilebo/4602/may_21_rapture_scheduled_for_6_p.m._/ |
| 04:31.31 | Corrodias2 | this means you should theoretically be able to outrun it |
| 04:31.33 | Thunder_Child | does that mean the world is ending on blizzcon? |
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| 04:31.44 | Cairenn | yup |
| 04:31.46 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 04:31.49 | bluspacecow | i'm in nz |
| 04:31.50 | Thunder_Child | go out with a band then |
| 04:31.51 | Corrodias2 | travel around the world and never get caught by 6pm, and you should be safe |
| 04:31.53 | Thunder_Child | bang* |
| 04:31.55 | bluspacecow | its 4.31 pm on 21/05 |
| 04:31.58 | bluspacecow | no rapture here |
| 04:32.34 | Thunder_Child | well, that would be an amazing day to release D3 |
| 04:32.35 | Cairenn | still have 1.5 to go, if it's only 4:30 |
| 04:32.41 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 04:33.03 | rtr54g | Iriel: Is the angle in radians? |
| 04:33.21 | Iriel | If you're using math.sin and math.cos, yes |
| 04:33.30 | rtr54g | Doesn't seem to be working. |
| 04:33.57 | rtr54g | The oval is 360x380 and I'm offsetting it vertically by -30 C:SetPoint('CENTER',360*sin(45*(math.pi/180)),-30+(380*cos(45*(math.pi/180)))) |
| 04:34.17 | Iriel | You're using sin/cos not math.sin and math.cos |
| 04:34.19 | rtr54g | No matter what I plug in it ends up at the top of the oval, only moving by a couple pixels |
| 04:34.25 | Iriel | those take degrees |
| 04:34.30 | rtr54g | oh. |
| 04:34.40 | Iriel | (and are only there for compatibility - use the math ones) |
| 04:36.57 | Iriel | Good luck |
| 04:38.14 | bluspacecow | lolz http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/906888-Do-you-think-Blizzard-is-lying |
| 04:39.41 | bluspacecow | most of the commenters seem to confuse "As this is a fairly complex service to develop," meaning it's hard to program |
| 04:39.56 | bluspacecow | hard to develop does not equal complex to develop |
| 04:42.24 | Arrowmaster | hard to debug and support |
| 04:45.31 | rtr54g | Just to be sure. Assuming my texture is 24x24, I'm looking at for something like 24*math.sin(angle+180*(math.pi/180)), 24*math.cos(angle+180*(math.pi/180)). Then add this to the offset of the oval, which I already got working. How do I convert this to radians to plug into :SetRotation? |
| 04:51.51 | rtr54g | Nevermind. Since I know the trajectory I can assume certain values and don't really need to calculate it on the spot. I got the positioning working, so thanks a bunch. Would've been lost myself. |
| 04:58.00 | Wobin | Cairenn: ack? |
| 04:58.33 | Cairenn | Wobin: is okay, will check again in a while, it isn't time there yet, according to bleeter |
| 04:59.40 | Arrowmaster | 3 more hours |
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| 05:12.32 | DWSR | What's the normal game font constant? |
| 05:12.39 | DWSR | FONT_NORMAL or something> |
| 05:18.11 | airtonix | Cairenn: wobin is pure and just? |
| 05:18.27 | Cairenn | airtonix: don't know, that's why I'm checking :p |
| 05:18.36 | kd3 | lmao |
| 05:18.39 | airtonix | I' |
| 05:18.43 | airtonix | ;< |
| 05:19.02 | airtonix | Cairenn: his chasitity belt is too hard to pick |
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| 05:19.26 | airtonix | dang my ticket just evaporated |
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| 05:36.19 | bluspacecow | http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5036858/NZ-Skeptics-slam-Apocalypse-warning |
| 05:36.29 | bluspacecow | -_- thats in under 30 mins for me |
| 05:36.43 | bluspacecow | so if you don't hear from me ... adieu it's been grand :D |
| 05:36.55 | bluspacecow | *runs around fondling random people* |
| 05:37.03 | Cairenn | is fondled |
| 05:37.37 | mckenziemc | you wish |
| 05:37.39 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 05:41.33 | Arrowmaster | seriously why do people give these quacks so much attention |
| 05:41.42 | Cairenn | amusement factor |
| 05:41.53 | Arrowmaster | the guy is clearly a publicity whore |
| 05:43.46 | bluspacecow | i've actually been finding there are a lot more earthquakes then people realize .... but 90% of them are too deep to cause major harm |
| 05:44.45 | mckenziemc | believing he's right doesn't make him a publicity whore |
| 05:45.35 | mckenziemc | he believing himself to be right, that is |
| 05:47.12 | Arrowmaster | if hes not a publicity whore then he should try to control the actions of his followers a bit more, plastering billboards up and traveling everywhere to spread the message to people that dont care = publicity whore |
| 05:47.32 | bluspacecow | http://www.amazon.com/Power-Go-PTR845-Toaster-Boat/dp/B00006HOI6 |
| 05:47.51 | mckenziemc | not if he believes he's right |
| 05:47.55 | bluspacecow | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/hv60236651.php |
| 05:47.59 | bluspacecow | has me a bit worried |
| 05:48.25 | Arrowmaster | part of my views on religion is that i dont care what religion you are or how you practice it but as soon as you start preaching to people that dont want to listen i fucking hate you |
| 05:52.28 | mckenziemc | it was friday there bluspacecow |
| 05:52.42 | mckenziemc | is* |
| 05:55.11 | mckenziemc | odd |
| 05:55.26 | mckenziemc | i didn't get a deserter debuff from dropping this dungeon at the start O.o |
| 05:56.06 | Zyn | oooh no! tectonic shifts! it's not like this happens constantly or anything :3 |
| 05:56.16 | mckenziemc | ^ that too |
| 05:58.14 | mckenziemc | wonders how many people are going to claim the scientists in charge of the seismology data are withholding data |
| 06:00.03 | starlon | won't matter. the end's here now. |
| 06:00.22 | Xyphoid | the rapture is a cloud technology |
| 06:00.29 | Xyphoid | (it's either not working or very slow) |
| 06:01.17 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 06:01.59 | Xyphoid | also it's now 6:01 local time |
| 06:02.46 | mckenziemc | come to think of it |
| 06:03.04 | mckenziemc | never heard mention of whether it's supposed to be 6 daylight or 6 standard |
| 06:03.07 | mckenziemc | not that it matters :p |
| 06:04.04 | Arrowmaster | 'local' kinda means daylight during daylight times |
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| 06:04.47 | Xinhuan | its 2 pm here :P |
| 06:04.49 | Xinhuan | at my place |
| 06:04.54 | Xinhuan | so i have 4 hours to live? |
| 06:05.05 | Xyphoid | anyway if you had proof the rapture was happening at date X local time Y, you could modify local time by legislation |
| 06:05.07 | mckenziemc | except that it's supposed to be 6 local for each time zone, and not all places shift their hours |
| 06:07.18 | mckenziemc | leap seconds were included in the calculation though so i'd assume dst was considered too |
| 06:16.39 | bluspacecow | 6.15 PM here |
| 06:16.44 | bluspacecow | nothing on the meters |
| 06:17.21 | Xyphoid | not even any quakes in chch |
| 06:18.44 | mckenziemc | http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=33637&location=270¬hanks=yes&sub=marine |
| 06:18.45 | bluspacecow | brb rechecking |
| 06:18.49 | mckenziemc | sub...marine? O.o |
| 06:21.00 | bluspacecow | nope |
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| 06:56.42 | bleeter | bluspacecow: have any sheep gone missing? |
| 06:56.57 | bluspacecow | dunno |
| 06:57.11 | bluspacecow | i'm, thinking some of the homies got a bit hungry after their massive bong hit |
| 06:57.17 | bluspacecow | the munchies you know |
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| 06:57.30 | bleeter | "kiwis are like dinosaur bones. The lord put them there to trick us." |
| 07:01.29 | mikma | http://www.pulju.net/tuotteet/uudettuotteet/potionit <- in finnish, but you'll get the idea anyway |
| 07:02.44 | airtonix | so what is supposed to happen in the rapture. i thought the pure and righteous were taken by angels then quite some time later god comes and trolls us for eternity |
| 07:04.41 | bluspacecow | yeah i've checking the guys figures ... it's all based on the cruxification of christ |
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| 07:04.56 | bluspacecow | which AFAIK has not been pinned down to an exact day month year |
| 07:05.03 | DWSR | I thought that said the crucifixtion of cruft. |
| 07:05.08 | olafski | mm I like the premium invite ideas this Djembe guy posted :D |
| 07:05.09 | DWSR | I was like....LOLWAT? |
| 07:05.15 | bluspacecow | most i have found is 30 - 36 AD |
| 07:06.04 | olafski | Jaa linki! |
| 07:06.35 | bluspacecow | mikma i don't get your link |
| 07:06.43 | mikma | bluspacecow: mana and health energy potions |
| 07:06.43 | bluspacecow | other then you want to do naughty things to me with a potion |
| 07:07.06 | mikma | yes, i want to stick the mana potion in your peehole and health potion in your poohole |
| 07:07.29 | Corrodias2 | how forward |
| 07:07.31 | bluspacecow | giggity |
| 07:07.37 | bluspacecow | dinner and a movie first boi |
| 07:07.38 | mikma | goo |
| 07:07.51 | bluspacecow | http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pulju.net%2Ftuotteet%2Fuudettuotteet%2Fpotionit |
| 07:07.51 | airtonix | http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/kitler/pics/kitler6180.jpg |
| 07:07.58 | bluspacecow | laugh at their translation mikma |
| 07:08.00 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 07:08.09 | Corrodias2 | hey, if that's all it takes... |
| 07:08.27 | Corrodias2 | i guess i wouldn't bother anyway, because i'm dumb. |
| 07:08.37 | olafski | didn't they make those potions like 4 years ago? :s |
| 07:09.07 | Corrodias2 | yep |
| 07:09.31 | mikma | bluspacecow: the what what |
| 07:09.56 | bluspacecow | i passed your link through translate.google.com |
| 07:10.09 | mikma | let's see |
| 07:10.09 | bluspacecow | i wanted you to read it and laugh at how inaccurate it is |
| 07:10.26 | mikma | hah |
| 07:11.28 | mikma | "Note. Both of these potions are so called. shots, which is very close stuffia." ruhaha |
| 07:12.17 | olafski | not stuffia! |
| 07:12.29 | Corrodias2 | i like to keep my stuffia close, and my potions closer. |
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| 07:27.47 | bluspacecow | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0003khu.php |
| 07:27.53 | bluspacecow | OMG thats near me /panic |
| 07:27.54 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 07:27.58 | bluspacecow | depth 500 km |
| 07:28.00 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:28.24 | kd3 | 500km deep? yeah, that one didn't get felt |
| 07:32.53 | bluspacecow | seemed to of been far from any population centres too |
| 07:33.03 | bluspacecow | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0003khu.php#details |
| 07:35.47 | mckenziemc1 | my candid mouse trap caught another rat :( |
| 07:35.49 | Zyn | just had a 6.7 magnitude quake here .. on my chair, god damn flatulence |
| 07:44.11 | karl_w_w | http://blog.amal.net/wp-content/uploads/wtf_wedding_dress.jpg classy |
| 07:49.41 | Corrodias2 | ahuh |
| 07:54.44 | kd3 | watching screencasts... from spaaaace |
| 07:54.51 | Arrowmaster | haha this movie has Christopher Judge playing on of the main characters and i swear i just saw Sgt Siler from SG-1 as an extra, just checked imdb and i was right |
| 07:55.59 | tekkub | a scifi movie? |
| 07:56.06 | tekkub | they reuse teh fuck out of scifi actors |
| 07:56.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:56.25 | Arrowmaster | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343740/ |
| 07:56.30 | Arrowmaster | take a look at that cast list |
| 07:56.30 | tekkub | Andromeda had damn near everyone from SG1 in it, then rommie lands on SG1 as some doctor |
| 07:56.57 | tekkub | she was a doc on V too |
| 07:56.59 | Arrowmaster | andromeda had spike from buffy in it a few times |
| 07:57.31 | tekkub | god you can just go down that list |
| 07:57.38 | tekkub | sorbo, andromeda |
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| 07:58.09 | tekkub | smallville, atlantis |
| 07:58.16 | tekkub | atlantis |
| 07:58.19 | nevcairiel | the only one from SG1 on Andromeda i remember right away is teal'c |
| 07:58.28 | tekkub | battlestar |
| 07:58.43 | tekkub | andromda |
| 07:58.53 | tekkub | nevcairiel: Jackson was on an ep too |
| 07:59.05 | tekkub | he was teh avatar for The Balance of Judgement |
| 07:59.10 | nevcairiel | ah, right |
| 07:59.11 | tekkub | the one rommie falls in love with |
| 07:59.21 | Arrowmaster | rofl there was a classic indi jones scene just now in this movie, some asian dude doing crazy marial arts and sorbo punches him in the face and knocks him out |
| 08:00.16 | mikma | bang |
| 08:04.25 | Wobin | Cairenn: well, we're still here =( |
| 08:04.38 | Arrowmaster | the story behind that scene still makes me laugh |
| 08:04.39 | Cairenn | guess you're going to be visiting with me then |
| 08:05.03 | Cairenn | Wobin: how many moving vehicles are now driver-less? |
| 08:05.22 | Wobin | haven't heared any screeching of crashes |
| 08:05.27 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 08:05.31 | bleeter | clearly God is trolling us |
| 08:05.39 | bleeter | *us all |
| 08:05.42 | Wobin | The Rickrapture |
| 08:05.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:05.52 | tekkub | who wants to have a little fun tonight? |
| 08:05.57 | kd3 | fun? |
| 08:05.58 | tekkub | go down to walmart |
| 08:06.10 | tekkub | buy a few full sets of clothes, including shoes |
| 08:06.22 | tekkub | go somewhere fairly public and leave them in piles |
| 08:06.27 | kd3 | lmao |
| 08:06.33 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:06.41 | Cairenn | you're bad, tekkub |
| 08:06.43 | Cairenn | I love it |
| 08:06.50 | tekkub | make sure you stick the socks into the shoes like they were being worn |
| 08:06.57 | Wobin | I like the idea of letting of a lot of inflatable sex dolls filled with helium around churches |
| 08:07.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:08.08 | Cairenn | you do realize that we are definitely condemning ourselves to hell for our mocking |
| 08:08.19 | tekkub | who cares? |
| 08:08.25 | kd3 | what makes you think that we weren't already heading there? |
| 08:08.31 | tekkub | I mean all that's going to happen is we get rid of the "chosen ones" right? |
| 08:08.34 | tekkub | good riddance |
| 08:09.01 | Cairenn | kd3: I said "definitely" - as in there might have been a faint (very faint) hope otherwise |
| 08:09.18 | Arrowmaster | when nothing happens we can just tell the people that thought something was going to happen that this is hell, they have to put up with the rest of us for eternity |
| 08:09.33 | kd3 | heh |
| 08:09.38 | tekkub | "oh I'm sorry you must have picked the wrong religion" |
| 08:09.45 | Wobin | well we get a thousand years of terrible terrible stuff happening |
| 08:09.46 | tekkub | "the correct answer was... mormons" |
| 08:09.49 | Wobin | before the world ends |
| 08:09.50 | tekkub | "sorry about that |
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| 08:12.24 | Cairenn | well, I'm not putting my baseball bat and mini propane blow torch away just yet |
| 08:13.38 | Cairenn | ;) |
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| 08:14.19 | kd3 | hm, blowtorch |
| 08:14.21 | kd3 | ponders |
| 08:14.41 | Cairenn | kd3: you have to burn zombies, otherwise they just keep on coming back to unlife |
| 08:14.58 | Cairenn | silly kd3 |
| 08:14.58 | nevcairiel | chopping off their head works too |
| 08:15.04 | kd3 | shotgun blasts to the head work for me |
| 08:15.11 | Cairenn | I'm not taking any chances! :p |
| 08:15.15 | Cairenn | burn 'em all |
| 08:15.56 | Cairenn | (and let God sort them out later) |
| 08:16.08 | kd3 | indeed |
| 08:22.41 | tekkub | I have to say I'd be lazy and wouldn't fight zombies |
| 08:22.50 | tekkub | now werewolves, I'd be all over that shit |
| 08:22.59 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 08:23.01 | tekkub | cause if there's werewolves there must be werebears |
| 08:23.04 | tekkub | I just have to find them |
| 08:23.17 | Cairenn | and why did I just know that that was coming |
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| 08:39.03 | airtonix | wrubare |
| 08:40.34 | mckenziemc | wrufilming |
| 08:43.44 | airtonix | Fisker: http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/kubuntu-11-10-mobile-devices-sneak-peak/ |
| 08:44.29 | mckenziemc | they snuck it to the top of a mountain? |
| 08:44.52 | airtonix | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ARM/Archos101it |
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| 08:57.24 | Torhal | breaks off airtonix's left leg and beats mckenziemc with it. |
| 08:57.46 | mckenziemc | parries with Fisker's third leg. |
| 08:58.27 | Torhal | Sorry, airtonix - I didn't realize he was that dirty. |
| 08:58.51 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 09:02.46 | airtonix | it was a prosthetic |
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| 09:13.08 | jnwhiteh | Wow, looks like a qualifying score for round 1a was only 20 points |
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| 09:59.15 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 09:59.18 | Fisker | waves and such |
| 10:02.02 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 10:02.06 | mckenziemc | aims a rifle and such |
| 10:03.46 | Fisker | my head hurts mckenziemc |
| 10:06.27 | Fisker | kd3men |
| 10:09.40 | Bruners | Fisker: why does it hurt? |
| 10:09.47 | Fisker | because Bruners |
| 10:10.34 | mckenziemc | yes fisker your head *does* hurt me |
| 10:21.52 | bluspacecow | i r still alive *dances naked* |
| 10:24.27 | airtonix | what is your other option? |
| 10:26.44 | airtonix | Cairenn how would you burn your zombies? |
| 10:30.29 | airtonix | i think Cairenn has been sequestered |
| 10:30.38 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:30.39 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:33.58 | Cairenn | nope, I was talking to someone |
| 10:34.13 | Cairenn | with my little propane blowtorch |
| 10:35.35 | airtonix | ensuring avoidance? |
| 10:38.33 | Fisker | how do you communicate through blowtorches? |
| 10:38.59 | airtonix | morse code |
| 10:39.07 | airtonix | or welt braile |
| 10:40.42 | Cairenn | that was in response to his question of how I'd burn them |
| 10:40.56 | Cairenn | buncha smartasses :p |
| 10:41.02 | airtonix | oh |
| 10:41.08 | airtonix | i wouldn't |
| 10:41.24 | airtonix | i'd use tiger traps with lava in the bottom |
| 10:42.07 | tekkub | I may or may not be becoming a stay-at-home lush |
| 10:42.16 | tekkub | I bought a $30 bottle of bailey's |
| 10:42.21 | tekkub | it lasted me a week |
| 10:42.54 | tekkub | 60oz, so that means I'm drinking 8.5oz a day... |
| 10:43.06 | tekkub | the back of the bottle has a little "recipe"... 3.5oz |
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| 10:45.21 | Fisker | so |
| 10:45.24 | Fisker | i once killed a guy kd3 |
| 10:45.34 | Fisker | afraid? |
| 10:55.10 | airtonix | counterstrike doesn't count bro |
| 10:57.08 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow: that's supposedly a bad thing |
| 11:00.11 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 11:00.21 | bluspacecow | bai bai! |
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| 11:00.36 | Xinhuan | hi bluspacecow |
| 11:00.38 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 11:01.00 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:02.42 | Fisker | wanna play a game of bitches Xinhuan ? |
| 11:03.01 | Xinhuan | bitches at Fisker |
| 11:03.13 | Fisker | yay |
| 11:03.17 | Fisker | you're winner |
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| 11:14.37 | mckenziemc | "They've already told us in the past that they don't even need the subscription fee to maintain their servers and the box sales alone would suffice. The rest is profit. " |
| 11:14.41 | mckenziemc | facepalms |
| 11:16.13 | Cairenn | ? |
| 11:16.33 | mckenziemc | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/906888-Do-you-think-Blizzard-is-lying |
| 11:16.45 | Cairenn | ah |
| 11:18.27 | olafski | that sounds unlikely |
| 11:18.44 | Fisker | not really |
| 11:18.56 | Fisker | They haven't said it, but it might actually be possible :o |
| 11:19.20 | olafski | but yeah.. the cost of maintaining some hardware probably doesn't come close to the personnel cost they have I assume |
| 11:19.20 | Fisker | well |
| 11:19.38 | Fisker | There's also the added players due to not having a monthly payment |
| 11:20.06 | olafski | saying "they can maintain the servers with the box sales so the rest is profit" is stretching it imo |
| 11:20.31 | Fisker | But yeah if you put all money from sales into a bank account and took server maintenance (hardware + server crew) they could probably have paid it off with those money |
| 11:22.20 | olafski | possibly.. but what does that prove =( |
| 11:22.42 | olafski | I do love that "so excited for premium invites" post though |
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| 11:28.37 | Fisker | i wonder if they have the balls to back away this ti me |
| 11:28.38 | Fisker | time* |
| 11:29.43 | mckenziemc | this is a far cry from the realID fiasco |
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| 11:34.58 | Fisker | how so mckenziemc ? |
| 11:35.10 | mckenziemc | that was a privacy issue |
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| 12:43.39 | karl_w_w | is it possible to get auctioneer to tell me the best trade good to spend my honor points on, assuming I list them at undercut price? :P |
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| 13:06.53 | industrial | is there a channel for rift? |
| 13:07.20 | industrial | i like how i can play on us servers if i want :) |
| 13:07.32 | industrial | adys where do you play? |
| 13:07.49 | airtonix | in his room |
| 13:08.07 | industrial | basement amirite? |
| 13:08.20 | industrial | he fritzles fisker |
| 13:09.32 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dild9s2c94&NR=1 |
| 13:09.33 | industrial | i rolled a marksman/bard then found out its a lot of kiting fun but the petclasses still own soloing in mmos |
| 13:10.00 | Fisker | game is bad airtonix |
| 13:10.02 | Fisker | bad airtonix bad |
| 13:10.23 | airtonix | like your mum |
| 13:12.36 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOmvxa51JRo |
| 13:28.51 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOZorVab2Mo wat |
| 13:29.12 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:29.20 | haste | dnu felipe` |
| 13:29.23 | haste | wups |
| 13:29.25 | haste | hey Fisker ! |
| 13:29.40 | Fisker | i'm sick haste |
| 13:29.47 | haste | you stole our sun, give it back |
| 13:30.11 | Fisker | what sun? |
| 13:30.36 | haste | the one behind the clouds |
| 13:30.42 | haste | you can have your wind back tho' |
| 13:30.45 | haste | we don't need that |
| 13:31.00 | Fisker | k |
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| 13:31.20 | Fisker | i do not want headache |
| 13:31.23 | Fisker | so lets trade |
| 13:31.26 | Fisker | sun for no headache |
| 13:32.17 | karl_w_w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/176796/why-would-you-roll-human <- winner |
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| 13:44.36 | airtonix | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/34/why-would-you-link-that-post |
| 13:55.39 | karl_w_w | fuck me |
| 13:56.09 | karl_w_w | just told the pally tank to interrupt on first zg boss |
| 13:56.19 | karl_w_w | i got the first one, second one not interrupted |
| 13:56.23 | karl_w_w | 3rd one not interrupted |
| 13:56.44 | karl_w_w | pally: "Um my hammer failed an my sheild was on CD" |
| 14:05.51 | karl_w_w | has anybody queued random troll heroic lately and actually got ZA? |
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| 14:11.22 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/3Q6AH.jpg |
| 14:14.21 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-pictures-suction-cups1.jpg |
| 14:16.46 | Adys | industrial: i dont play rift |
| 14:17.52 | Fisker | please kill me karl_w_w |
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| 14:22.45 | airtonix | http://saraboargs.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/facebook_like_qr-594x445.jpg |
| 14:33.20 | karl_w_w | but i love you Fisker |
| 14:33.53 | Fisker | but i love you karl_w_w |
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| 15:01.53 | airtonix | Cairenn: what do art gallery type people call it when they start a new "????" for a particular artist they have to show off ? |
| 15:02.07 | airtonix | a show? a presentation? |
| 15:02.18 | airtonix | ah exhibition |
| 15:02.27 | Cairenn | exhibition |
| 15:02.34 | airtonix | thanks |
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| 15:03.25 | Cairenn | or, if shortened, just an "exhibit" |
| 15:03.41 | Cairenn | but yeah |
| 15:04.28 | zenzelezz | sup dawg, I heard you like art |
| 15:07.57 | airtonix | qrcodes vs microsoft tag |
| 15:08.01 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.50 | Jamash | both bad |
| 15:09.03 | Jamash | what's microsoft tag? |
| 15:09.24 | airtonix | http://marksprague.wordpress.com/understanding-qr-codes/ |
| 15:09.45 | airtonix | http://tag.microsoft.com/overview.aspx |
| 15:10.04 | airtonix | i think mstags can contain more data |
| 15:10.05 | Jamash | they're both ugly and obtrusive |
| 15:11.15 | Adys | speaking of exhibits |
| 15:11.19 | Adys | where's Kalroth? |
| 15:11.35 | airtonix | i'd rather have a qrcode provided instead of having to enter a url into my phone ... |
| 15:11.44 | Jamash | I'd much rather see some sort of machine-readable standard font + symbol that would indicate to a phone "GO TO THIS URL" |
| 15:11.50 | airtonix | or even more common : having to manually enter in a contacts details |
| 15:12.06 | Jamash | and then use a url shortener |
| 15:12.13 | airtonix | Jamash: qrcodes do that |
| 15:12.18 | Jamash | nuh uh |
| 15:12.24 | airtonix | um yes? |
| 15:12.27 | Jamash | I mean machine+human readable font |
| 15:12.31 | zenzelezz | if the entire purpose of QR codes was URLs, it'd do that, but it's general-purpose |
| 15:12.32 | Jamash | QR codes are not a font |
| 15:12.32 | zenzelezz | I like it |
| 15:12.49 | airtonix | yeah you can store quite a lot of info in them |
| 15:12.51 | Jamash | they're ugly as all getout |
| 15:13.01 | foxlit | "The Tag system uses a cloud-based back-end that provides access to data that just isnât possible with earlier QR codes, such as reporting on how frequently and where your Tags are being scanned. In addition, Tags allow you to dynamically change your data source â unlike other 2D codes that are associated with a single, permanent URL, Tags can be updated as frequently as you like to point to new websites, allowing you to reuse |
| 15:13.02 | foxlit | campaign materials." |
| 15:13.14 | airtonix | haha |
| 15:13.17 | airtonix | that's a lie |
| 15:13.19 | Alram | so qr codes with privacy breaching |
| 15:13.21 | Alram | yes? |
| 15:13.23 | airtonix | goo.gl |
| 15:13.23 | Jamash | so, like a url shortener |
| 15:13.26 | Jamash | ^ |
| 15:13.29 | foxlit | i.e. "let's reveal the scanners' location data by default, and accomplish nothing beyond what a PHP script can already do" |
| 15:13.34 | airtonix | goo.gl provides qrcodes |
| 15:13.52 | Jamash | which are ugly |
| 15:14.35 | airtonix | well i could just make my own url shortening logic on my own site and make all my marketing based qrcodes with that instead |
| 15:14.54 | Jamash | or you could use human readable short urls instead |
| 15:15.03 | airtonix | why? |
| 15:15.19 | airtonix | those are a pain in the ass to type out on a mobile phone |
| 15:15.22 | Jamash | it's not like cell phones don't have OCR-capable processors |
| 15:15.44 | airtonix | qrcode is more reliable to scan in |
| 15:15.47 | Jamash | so you'd point your phone at the *human readable* url and then hit the same button as you do for your QR thingy |
| 15:15.59 | Jamash | use a better font <--- I already said this |
| 15:16.14 | foxlit | Space constraints, Jamash |
| 15:16.22 | airtonix | it doesn't provide the affordance that qrcodes do |
| 15:16.27 | foxlit | QR tags are smaller than your http://blah.bla/bla/bla url |
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| 15:24.16 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 15:24.18 | Fisker | i'm so sick |
| 15:24.37 | olafski | zomg I've been kicked from a lfd group for the first time :o |
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| 15:25.38 | Fisker | qr codes suck |
| 15:27.12 | Jamash | you're saying a QR code is smaller than [goo.gl/Ym3ZK] |
| 15:27.41 | Fisker | i'm saying that QR codes suck |
| 15:27.49 | Jamash | not you, Fisker |
| 15:27.54 | Fisker | but yes the dimensions of that url is lower than the dimensions of a standard QR code |
| 15:27.57 | Jamash | I also say QR codes suck |
| 15:28.04 | Fisker | aww |
| 15:28.20 | Fisker | QR tags can be very small though |
| 15:28.26 | Fisker | but it fucks up the OCR a lot |
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| 15:28.30 | foxlit | If you're using goo.gl/ urls in your advertisements, you're doing it wrong. |
| 15:28.38 | Jamash | tattoos a QR code on Fisker's neck |
| 15:28.48 | Fisker | does link to dildos Jamash ? |
| 15:28.50 | Fisker | does it* |
| 15:28.58 | Jamash | if you're using QR codes in your advertisements, you're doing it wrong |
| 15:29.17 | Jamash | it's a QR-encoded ascii goatse |
| 15:29.29 | Fisker | oh :( |
| 15:30.44 | foxlit | Jamash: aside for more complex decoding, what would it actually achieve? |
| 15:30.51 | foxlit | You still won't remember Ym3ZK |
| 15:31.29 | foxlit | It still gives you no idea where the link leads. |
| 15:41.50 | Fisker | haste quick |
| 15:41.52 | Fisker | i need help |
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| 15:44.09 | haste | Fisker: no! |
| 15:45.34 | Fisker | yes! |
| 15:45.38 | Fisker | i need to go into the future |
| 15:45.43 | Fisker | and snatch a copy of Deus Ex 3 |
| 15:47.22 | nevcairiel | it supposedly is pretty good |
| 15:51.38 | Adys | Cairenn: can you ban that guy? ^ |
| 15:51.56 | Cairenn | mmrrh? |
| 15:52.12 | Adys | snild / ~snild@nurmijarvi.net |
| 15:52.19 | Cairenn | yeah, but why? |
| 15:52.47 | Adys | seems to be a bot.. been watching it for the past couple of days, looks seriously suspicious |
| 15:52.53 | Cairenn | k |
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| 15:53.03 | Cairenn | SNiLD: who are you? |
| 15:53.04 | zenzelezz | how so Adys? |
| 15:53.32 | Adys | zenzelezz: suspicious url, no reply to PMs, suspicious and regular ssl error |
| 15:53.37 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 15:53.53 | Adys | and hes in a bunch of chans |
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| 15:57.27 | karl_w_w | [23:54:12] [G] [85:Shelinka]: I have wrote my own storys in the past |
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| 16:12.32 | Fisker | yeah nevcairiel |
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| 16:15.33 | Fisker | i i can't believe that Blizzcon already sold out |
| 16:16.17 | Fisker | hey Bluspacecow |
| 16:16.18 | Fisker | can you? |
| 16:16.29 | Bluspacecow | giggity |
| 16:16.52 | Fisker | giggity? |
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| 16:18.12 | Cairenn | Fisker: I don't, since they don't go on sale for another 45m yet :p |
| 16:19.25 | |Jelly| | gets a good running start and tackle-huge Cairenn! |
| 16:19.32 | |Jelly| | ... hugs |
| 16:19.39 | Cairenn | tackle-huge? eep! |
| 16:19.51 | |Jelly| | YES! Are you skurred? |
| 16:19.57 | Cairenn | verry |
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| 16:27.14 | Adys | reminds me |
| 16:27.20 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:27.23 | Adys | anyone needs help buying their blizzcon tickets? |
| 16:27.25 | Fisker | i just read the headlines :( |
| 16:27.26 | Fisker | jerks |
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| 16:27.48 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what do you mean? |
| 16:27.55 | Fisker | didn't Blizzard ok sound modification/replacement at some point? |
| 16:28.09 | Fisker | like if you can't internet and F5 a fucking lot around 19:00 ? |
| 16:29.17 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i mean, "is there anyone who might need help beating the 3 and a half second sale time limit" :P |
| 16:29.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah probably a lot of people |
| 16:29.52 | Fisker | i order 4 tickets every year so i can blackmail people |
| 16:30.14 | Adys | I'm ordering 4 tickets, if anyone wants one please PM me |
| 16:30.59 | Adys | Fisker: wasnt last year's limit 5 tickets? |
| 16:31.10 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was |
| 16:31.19 | Arrowmaster | i thought i had 5 of your tickets |
| 16:31.29 | Adys | possibly |
| 16:31.32 | Adys | you going this year? |
| 16:31.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 16:31.46 | Adys | so i converted you or what. |
| 16:31.54 | Arrowmaster | sure |
| 16:32.01 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 16:32.07 | Adys | and you never will |
| 16:32.10 | Fisker | why do people want to get conned by blizzard? |
| 16:32.20 | Arrowmaster | im just going so i can go drinking with Cairenn |
| 16:32.24 | |Jelly| | ^ |
| 16:32.25 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:32.25 | Alram | hey adys lets go together |
| 16:32.29 | Fisker | u jelly |Jelly| ? |
| 16:32.39 | Fisker | hey Alram lets go together |
| 16:32.40 | Adys | Alram: I'm not going i think |
| 16:32.44 | |Jelly| | Yes. Yes, I am. |
| 16:32.48 | Adys | im saving a ticket in case i change my mind |
| 16:32.54 | Alram | oh ok Adys |
| 16:32.58 | Alram | no Fisker |
| 16:32.58 | zenzelezz | remember to bring cameras, the elusive Cairenn is rarely captured on film |
| 16:32.59 | Adys | Alram: why, are you going? |
| 16:33.03 | Alram | no |
| 16:33.06 | Fisker | i thought you had to physically go pick up the tickets or shit like that Adys |
| 16:33.06 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: lol |
| 16:33.08 | Alram | i want to but no money |
| 16:33.24 | Adys | Fisker: nah.. i thought so too but last year i didnt have any issues with that |
| 16:34.28 | Adys | so how much are they this year anyway? $300? |
| 16:34.45 | Adys | oh, just $175 |
| 16:34.45 | Fisker | 175 |
| 16:35.09 | Fisker | gladly pay the ticket price |
| 16:35.17 | Fisker | not so much pay the other expenses :( |
| 16:35.24 | Shirik | the other expenses are easy |
| 16:35.28 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 16:35.30 | zenzelezz | $500 in 30 minutes |
| 16:35.33 | Shirik | Find a 3-leg flight from PDX to LAX |
| 16:35.40 | Shirik | for $200 |
| 16:35.43 | Fisker | dick Shirik |
| 16:35.45 | Fisker | diiiiiick |
| 16:35.47 | Shirik | charge it to your united express card |
| 16:35.47 | Adys | I'll shoot your balls off Shirik, stop speaking |
| 16:35.49 | |Jelly| | Oh, I will have my camera, Cairenn! |
| 16:35.50 | Shirik | extra $200 |
| 16:35.56 | Cairenn | oy |
| 16:35.56 | Shirik | er, 200 EQM |
| 16:36.01 | Fisker | also i'll probably end up on some stupid no flight list Shirik |
| 16:36.04 | Shirik | Get free first class upgrade |
| 16:36.05 | Shirik | done |
| 16:36.11 | Adys | Fisker: you probably already are |
| 16:36.21 | Fisker | exactly |
| 16:36.30 | Shirik | My hotel will be paid for if I can convince Cryptozoic to let me work one of the nights :D |
| 16:36.54 | Adys | jnwhiteh, all the other EUs: Was there anyone else interested in group flight rates? |
| 16:37.01 | Adys | you WILL have to go through london |
| 16:37.06 | Bluspacecow | Will the elusive Cairenn need to be nailed to something before we can photograph her ? |
| 16:37.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:37.19 | Bluspacecow | or fastened in some other non harmful way |
| 16:37.25 | Shirik | Bluspacecow: She was a lot more cooperative last year! |
| 16:37.28 | Arrowmaster | how long does it take for the rooms at the close hotels to get sold out? |
| 16:37.33 | |Jelly| | I have velcro! |
| 16:37.50 | Cairenn | "Up to four (4) tickets per billing address" - http://us.blizzard.com/store/blizzcon-tickets.xml |
| 16:37.52 | Adys | Arrowmaster: the larger hotels arent sold out even on dd |
| 16:38.01 | Adys | Arrowmaster: but the smaller/nicer ones already are by now |
| 16:38.05 | Shirik | dd? |
| 16:38.11 | Adys | d-day |
| 16:38.17 | Shirik | I contest that statement |
| 16:38.25 | Fisker | directdraw? |
| 16:38.27 | Arrowmaster | so like the marriot is already sold out? |
| 16:38.33 | Adys | doubtful |
| 16:38.34 | Shirik | I doubt it Arrowmaster |
| 16:38.44 | Adys | the marriot is one of the biggest three |
| 16:38.52 | Fisker | TB sucks as a game narrator |
| 16:39.34 | Adys | Calling out again: Anyone else who wants help buying their ticket? |
| 16:40.29 | Jamash | Thunder Bluff? Tol Barad? Tim Burton? |
| 16:40.38 | Adys | totalbiscuit i guess |
| 16:40.49 | Shirik | Well I plan to buy 2 tickets anyway, Adys, even though there's one of me |
| 16:40.55 | Jamash | I don't know who totalbiscuit is |
| 16:40.55 | Shirik | I figure if nobody needs it I can sell it |
| 16:40.57 | Adys | why 2? |
| 16:40.58 | Adys | buy 4 |
| 16:41.08 | Shirik | I'm not sure I can put 4 on my card right now :/ |
| 16:41.12 | Fisker | then you are a jerk Jamash |
| 16:41.19 | Shirik | This is the worst possible time for them to sell tickets |
| 16:41.24 | Shirik | Right before all my bills hit |
| 16:41.28 | Jamash | any time is the worst possible time |
| 16:41.38 | Jamash | I think they should hold an auction for tickets |
| 16:41.41 | |Jelly| | ... and rapture |
| 16:41.44 | Jamash | or a drawing |
| 16:41.45 | |Jelly| | Don't forget about that |
| 16:41.52 | Shirik | they would make so much money off an auction |
| 16:41.56 | Shirik | and simultaneously piss off people |
| 16:42.12 | Jamash | maybe enough to pay for RealID cross-realm grouping |
| 16:42.22 | Shirik | ha |
| 16:42.29 | Adys | see what you did there |
| 16:43.00 | A-KO | blizzcon tickets soon :D |
| 16:43.01 | Jamash | I made a butthurt post about realid grouping if anyone cares http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2549108178?page=9#16 |
| 16:44.24 | Shirik | The music you should be listening to while trying to get blizzcon tickets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QfP0nSrZk4 |
| 16:46.00 | Cairenn | I love watching [well done] time lapse photography |
| 16:46.31 | Shirik | ouch |
| 16:46.36 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, I think Cairenn just owned you |
| 16:46.45 | Cairenn | mrrh? |
| 16:46.53 | Shirik | Thunder_Child's been trying to do some time lapse photography |
| 16:47.06 | Cairenn | ah |
| 16:49.27 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, going this year? |
| 16:49.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 16:50.06 | Ackis | RAPTURE |
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| 16:50.36 | Adys | Anyone else needs help buying tickets? |
| 16:50.38 | Shirik | the rapture is actually blizzcon's site going down |
| 16:50.49 | Ackis | I need 2 tickets |
| 16:51.07 | Xinhuan | Adys, i'm considering |
| 16:51.20 | Ackis | my stomach is in knotts over this ticket lottery :( |
| 16:51.28 | Arrowmaster | how much did you spend to go last year Xinhuan? |
| 16:51.32 | Shirik | So what happens when there's only 2 tickets left |
| 16:51.33 | Jamash | it would be more fair if it was a lottery |
| 16:51.35 | Shirik | and the last person chooses 4 |
| 16:51.41 | Xinhuan | 2.6k singapore dollars (which would be about 2k USD) |
| 16:51.50 | Xinhuan | as the exchange rate is 1.3 |
| 16:51.52 | Cairenn | eek |
| 16:51.54 | Jamash | that's a lot of money |
| 16:51.54 | Adys | Ackis: do you actually need help with 2 tickets? |
| 16:51.58 | Adys | and yeah |
| 16:52.05 | Adys | i spent $1700 last year, from greece |
| 16:52.14 | Xinhuan | well yeah, its quite a bit |
| 16:52.14 | Ackis | Adys: I'm just worried I won't get into the queue to buy them |
| 16:52.27 | Jamash | I hope you at least muled enough drugs in to cover it. |
| 16:52.39 | Ackis | is going to mule kinder surprise eggs. |
| 16:52.45 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:52.50 | Xinhuan | mainly, i don't exactly want to commit on my own bnet account, as i wouldn't be able to resell if work prevents me from going in october |
| 16:53.20 | Adys | yeah you would |
| 16:53.37 | Arrowmaster | i thought you only had until a certain date to change the names on the tickets |
| 16:53.39 | Xinhuan | i can't, because the purchaser's physical credit card is needed |
| 16:53.47 | Xinhuan | to rename the name |
| 16:53.57 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://www.facebook.com/cogwheel/posts/10150192812554470?notif_t=feed_comment |
| 16:54.11 | cogwheel | (linked to FB for timestamp) |
| 16:54.12 | Adys | Xinhuan: only after some time |
| 16:54.23 | cogwheel | The prophecy of the Cog: On May 21, 2011, God will attempt to purchase tickets for BlizzCon. The page will time out for Him until tickets are sold out. He will then destroy the world in a fit of nerdrage. |
| 16:54.27 | Cairenn | cogwheel: ROFL |
| 16:55.03 | Xinhuan | don't get what you mean |
| 16:55.10 | Maldivia | cogwheel: at least we won't be around to listen to all the whining from people who didn't get tickets... |
| 16:55.10 | Xinhuan | if i buy, it would be under my name |
| 16:55.31 | Jamash | cogwheel: can God create a convention so sold out even He can't get tickets? |
| 16:55.37 | Xinhuan | and i can't sell it, because they would need a photo ID that matches my name after the 3 week period that allows u to change the ticket names |
| 16:55.42 | Arrowmaster | i think im going to try to purchase 4 tickets |
| 16:55.43 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 16:55.44 | Fisker | no facebook |
| 16:55.45 | karl_w_w | <Adys> anyone needs help buying their blizzcon tickets? <- financial help? yes please :P |
| 16:55.49 | Shirik | ha |
| 16:56.07 | Jamash | ~karl_w_w++ |
| 16:56.15 | Adys | i meant help from someone who has a better connection than you |
| 16:56.16 | Adys | <cough> |
| 16:56.42 | cogwheel | Fisker: that's why i pasted in here too. BURN |
| 16:56.45 | cogwheel | (or something) |
| 16:56.54 | Shirik | I would love to see the internet traffic spike |
| 16:56.57 | Shirik | caused by this |
| 16:57.11 | Maldivia | just a tiny blip |
| 16:57.35 | Ackis | 3 minutes!!!!!!! |
| 16:57.35 | Ackis | PANIC |
| 16:57.37 | Ackis | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 16:57.38 | Maldivia | 2 |
| 16:57.41 | Adys | 1 |
| 16:57.41 | Ackis | my palms are sweaty |
| 16:58.03 | Maldivia | meeh, don't have time for it :P |
| 16:58.15 | *** part/#wowuidev BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@CPE-60-226-105-114.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 16:58.25 | Adys | i have to say this is quite stressful |
| 16:58.31 | Adys | even when you're not going |
| 16:58.36 | Ackis | do I start refreshing now? |
| 16:58.40 | Adys | yea |
| 16:58.57 | Shirik | FU USAA NOT SEND ME MAIL RIGHT NOW |
| 16:59.09 | Shirik | usaa is trying to distract me from buying tickets |
| 16:59.15 | Arrowmaster | does anybody else see the 'cookies must be enabled' thing on the page? i have cookies enabled for blizzard.com but im just wondering if something is wrong or if everybody gets that |
| 16:59.21 | Adys | yea |
| 16:59.22 | Shirik | yea |
| 16:59.27 | Adys | and i doublechecked too. |
| 16:59.39 | Adys | wonder how many people did |
| 16:59.42 | Adys | Shirik: tell me a story |
| 16:59.45 | Arrowmaster | 20 seconds |
| 16:59.47 | Shirik | no fu |
| 17:00.08 | Adys | its up |
| 17:00.12 | Adys | I got 4 |
| 17:00.21 | cogwheel | in queue with 4 |
| 17:00.21 | Arrowmaster | Position: 5231 - Estimated time: 34 minutes |
| 17:00.25 | Shirik | 747 |
| 17:00.29 | Adys | 4413 |
| 17:00.30 | Shirik | 623 |
| 17:00.30 | cogwheel | 6154 :( |
| 17:00.32 | Ackis | Position: 6243 - Estimated time: 41 minutes |
| 17:00.34 | Adys | Shirik: why are you high in queue. |
| 17:00.39 | Shirik | I refreshed? |
| 17:00.45 | Fisker | Currently in Queue... |
| 17:00.45 | Fisker | Position: 9001 - Estimated time: 1 hour |
| 17:00.47 | Adys | you were supposed to tell me a story |
| 17:00.52 | Sargeras | 1318 |
| 17:01.06 | Maldivia | time for http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html ?? |
| 17:01.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p549999C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:01.29 | Xinhuan | Position: 11430 - Estimated time: 1 hour |
| 17:01.29 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 17:01.44 | Ackis | cogwheel: will you get tickets with that high of number? |
| 17:01.50 | Fisker | wtf Maldivia |
| 17:01.53 | Cairenn | no |
| 17:01.55 | cogwheel | depends on how many tix they're selling |
| 17:01.58 | Fisker | i remember that at release :O |
| 17:02.06 | cogwheel | and how many people fail to finish their transaction |
| 17:02.09 | Bluspacecow | 2815 18 minutes |
| 17:02.11 | Adys | last year, people up to 6000ish got their tickets |
| 17:02.14 | karl_w_w | how many do they usually sell? |
| 17:02.19 | Ackis | Cairenn: was that no to cogwheel? |
| 17:02.23 | karl_w_w | and how many can u buy? |
| 17:02.25 | Cairenn | yes |
| 17:02.26 | Cairenn | 4 |
| 17:02.27 | Shirik | they're at 95% now and I've dropped about 200 positions |
| 17:02.28 | Xinhuan | well, this year the limit is 4 per person, last year it was 5 |
| 17:02.28 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:02.43 | A-KO | damn |
| 17:02.47 | Maldivia | but they're only selling 50% of the tickets riday, right? |
| 17:02.48 | Adys | given that this year's max is lower than last year, Id guess tickets will sell out around 7000ish max |
| 17:02.49 | A-KO | I'm at 5391 |
| 17:02.51 | Xinhuan | so extrapolating, the 6000-ish would be closer to 8000 |
| 17:03.01 | A-KO | 5343 |
| 17:03.05 | Adys | but seeing how fast they're going, I wouldn't give people above 5000 a chance... |
| 17:03.05 | Xinhuan | but you must remember they have more floor space |
| 17:03.07 | Xinhuan | this year |
| 17:03.11 | cogwheel | 11% sold after moving ~300 positions in the queue |
| 17:03.13 | Cairenn | I'd like to be wrong, though :) |
| 17:03.13 | Xinhuan | so they will probably have more ticks |
| 17:03.14 | Arrowmaster | well i started at 5231 with 4 tickets |
| 17:03.32 | A-KO | I'm at 5247 with 3 tickets |
| 17:03.35 | A-KO | see what happens :P |
| 17:03.55 | Adys | cogwheel: yeah... seems like theres about 5000 positions |
| 17:04.07 | Adys | make that 4500 |
| 17:04.28 | A-KO | are there? |
| 17:04.31 | Adys | Ackis: how high are you in queue? |
| 17:04.39 | *** join/#wowuidev |Jelly|_ (~Jelly@c-24-4-154-230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:04.56 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 17:04.56 | Ackis | 5664 right now |
| 17:05.00 | Arrowmaster | he said 6243 to start |
| 17:05.01 | A-KO | I'm 5097 |
| 17:05.02 | Adys | yeah you wont make it |
| 17:05.04 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 17:05.14 | A-KO | eh there's Wednesday night :P |
| 17:05.23 | karl_w_w | it's not often you see people so eager to part with their hard-earned |
| 17:05.24 | cogwheel | hah |
| 17:05.29 | cogwheel | failocalypse is fitting |
| 17:06.32 | Adys | those who started above 5000: I have TWO tickets left; not 100% sure ill make the queue but if you want to buy your ticket off me, PM me |
| 17:06.39 | Adys | (i dont overcharge) |
| 17:06.39 | Bluspacecow | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/906888-Do-you-think-Blizzard-is-lying?p=11554674&viewfull=1#post11554674 |
| 17:06.46 | Bluspacecow | failed understanding of Lua API is fail |
| 17:06.48 | Alram | no Adys you scam |
| 17:07.02 | Bluspacecow | @Adys you forgot the "much" |
| 17:07.13 | Arrowmaster | well i started just above 5000 |
| 17:07.18 | Adys | its $175 and any transfer/rate fees :P |
| 17:07.36 | Cairenn | has her fingers crossed for everyone to be able to get their tickets |
| 17:07.39 | Adys | Arrowmaster: surprisingly tickets are going much slower... 75% stock left after 1000 positions |
| 17:07.44 | Cairenn | everyone in here* |
| 17:08.02 | karl_w_w | adys just wait and ebay |
| 17:08.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah im hoping i get 4 tickets just before they run out |
| 17:08.04 | Adys | so maybe those above 5000 will make it after all |
| 17:08.21 | Adys | karl_w_w: thats my plan if i have any left after those from this channel got theirs |
| 17:08.23 | A-KO | we'll see :P |
| 17:08.28 | Ackis | what number are you Cairenn? |
| 17:08.37 | karl_w_w | screw the channel, $$$! :P |
| 17:08.40 | Arrowmaster | she doesnt need to wait in the queue |
| 17:08.42 | cogwheel | Queue QQ |
| 17:08.45 | Cairenn | Ackis: I'm not |
| 17:08.50 | Ackis | ah |
| 17:08.52 | Ackis | cheater! ;) |
| 17:09.02 | karl_w_w | cogwheel: http://www.queueq.net/ ? |
| 17:09.03 | Cairenn | hard to buy them when you don't have a CC :p |
| 17:09.11 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 17:09.15 | Xinhuan | how about a DC |
| 17:09.32 | cogwheel | karl_w_w: so wehn they whine about queues it's QueueQ Queue QQ |
| 17:09.37 | Cairenn | they don't accept DCs to pay for them, especially not non-US DCs |
| 17:10.24 | Shirik | haha |
| 17:10.28 | Shirik | for the hell of it I went back in the queue |
| 17:10.36 | Shirik | Position: 13747 - Estimated time: 1 hour |
| 17:10.47 | Adys | Shirik: you go girl! you'll get it! |
| 17:10.51 | Adys | i can give you cuts |
| 17:11.09 | Xinhuan | well Cairenn |
| 17:11.12 | Xinhuan | i use DCs |
| 17:11.23 | Xinhuan | and i've bought stuff from blizzard store before with them |
| 17:11.24 | Arrowmaster | damnit, when it hit 67% i was still above 2/3s the possition i started in |
| 17:11.46 | Cairenn | huh, that's kind of odd, Xinhuan - I can't use mine |
| 17:11.59 | karl_w_w | Cairenn: that's why you get a visa/mastercard debit card :P |
| 17:12.03 | Xinhuan | my DC's considered a mastercard |
| 17:12.06 | Adys | Cairenn: I use a DC too, same as last year to pay for it |
| 17:12.10 | Arrowmaster | so tickets are going faster than queue positions |
| 17:12.12 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: ahhhh, that's the diff |
| 17:12.12 | Adys | UK one |
| 17:12.19 | Cairenn | mine's a straight DC |
| 17:12.28 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 17:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | oh, it's like an atm card |
| 17:12.35 | Xinhuan | doesn't your bank support a mastercard version? |
| 17:12.44 | Shirik | what is DC? |
| 17:12.47 | Adys | debit |
| 17:12.50 | Cairenn | karl_w_w: no, I don't, I refuse to own a CC, in any form |
| 17:12.57 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: they do |
| 17:12.58 | karl_w_w | its not a credit card |
| 17:13.00 | Cairenn | I don't want one |
| 17:13.02 | karl_w_w | its a debit card |
| 17:13.05 | karl_w_w | theres no interest |
| 17:13.05 | Adys | mine's definitely considered a cc |
| 17:13.07 | karl_w_w | no fees |
| 17:13.09 | karl_w_w | no debt |
| 17:13.18 | Fisker | hurr no cc? |
| 17:13.23 | Xinhuan | yeah there's no fees and no debt possible with a DC |
| 17:13.37 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: what # are you now? |
| 17:13.43 | Fisker | oh yeah i forgot that the US is messed up |
| 17:13.45 | Adys | 50% of the stick gone after 2000 positions gone... seems those above 3500 wont even make it |
| 17:13.47 | Arrowmaster | 3183 |
| 17:13.48 | Adys | stock* |
| 17:14.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah this is crazy |
| 17:14.05 | karl_w_w | might slow down towards the end though adys |
| 17:14.07 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:14.13 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: no it wont |
| 17:14.21 | Shirik | don't they have a second set of sales? |
| 17:14.22 | Adys | karl_w_w: its already slowed down a little, i dont think its going to slow down more than that |
| 17:14.24 | Adys | and yeah they do |
| 17:14.28 | Cairenn | It's a personal choice, and I choose not to have one. Thank you all for your input, but myob. |
| 17:14.32 | karl_w_w | i would imagine the most keen people, who are earlier in the queue, would be more likely to buy 4 even when they dont need 4 :P |
| 17:14.48 | Arrowmaster | you have to pick the amount before you get in the queue |
| 17:14.54 | Shirik | Wait they make debit cards that aren't visa/mastercard/something? |
| 17:14.56 | Adys | Arrowmaster: nah |
| 17:15.00 | Xinhuan | you can change the amount when you checkout Arrowmaster |
| 17:15.00 | Adys | you can change at the end |
| 17:15.00 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 17:15.01 | Shirik | I didn't even know that was done |
| 17:15.03 | Cairenn | Shirik: yes |
| 17:15.04 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 17:15.05 | Shirik | all of my debit cards have always been visa |
| 17:15.11 | Arrowmaster | fuck i should have done that |
| 17:15.13 | Cairenn | not here |
| 17:15.16 | karl_w_w | i think they made them in the 90s Shirik :P |
| 17:15.20 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it doesnt matter |
| 17:15.21 | Arrowmaster | instead of wasting time changing the thing to 4 |
| 17:15.27 | Adys | Arrowmaster: when you refresh, you're in the queue |
| 17:15.28 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 17:15.30 | Xinhuan | well if 2000 positions sold 50%, 4k would sell 100%, but it doesn't really make sense since last year sold out at 6k, and... there's more floor space so they would sell more ticks this year |
| 17:15.32 | Adys | as soon as you get the page |
| 17:15.33 | Shirik | I wish I knew that |
| 17:15.37 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 17:15.37 | cralor | if you change to 4 you don't change position |
| 17:15.40 | Shirik | I was actually in position like 200 at first |
| 17:15.43 | Cairenn | karl_w_w: they still make them now and please stop being an ass about it. |
| 17:15.46 | Shirik | then I changed it to 2 |
| 17:15.48 | Shirik | and went back |
| 17:15.50 | Adys | no Shirik |
| 17:15.51 | Adys | as i said |
| 17:15.56 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 17:15.57 | Adys | you can spend 10 minutes changing the amount, youll be at the same position in the queue |
| 17:15.59 | Adys | 100% |
| 17:16.03 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:16.06 | Shirik | well I didn't look at the number I just assumed |
| 17:16.15 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:16.17 | Adys | and yeah |
| 17:16.23 | Fisker | i just ate an icecream |
| 17:16.23 | Adys | what you did is what i did last year the first day |
| 17:16.24 | Shirik | that makes sense then |
| 17:16.25 | Xinhuan | lol 45% left |
| 17:16.30 | Fisker | why would anyone sell ticks Xinhuan ? |
| 17:16.30 | karl_w_w | Cairenn that was a joke, anything I have said previous about it was information. I'm not here to sell visa debit cards. |
| 17:16.33 | Fisker | what monster would do that? |
| 17:16.33 | Adys | i got in queue at 200, i went back, changed to 5, got screwed |
| 17:16.34 | Adys | :D |
| 17:16.41 | Shirik | that explains why I took longer and still got to like 600 |
| 17:17.00 | Fisker | people buying blizzcon tickets don't make sense at all |
| 17:17.03 | cogwheel | i've lost all hope for my queue position... mrs cog is still within the error bars of my extremely rough estimate though |
| 17:17.06 | Jamash | http://us.blizzard.com/store/_flash/failocalypse.htm |
| 17:17.17 | Adys | cogwheel: I'm starting to lose hope even for my position =P |
| 17:17.18 | Shirik | wtf is this |
| 17:17.27 | Adys | if i make it it'll be very tight |
| 17:17.36 | Xinhuan | do you think blizz would add tickets to the pool |
| 17:17.42 | Adys | no |
| 17:17.47 | Adys | they sell the leftovers on the second sale |
| 17:17.48 | cogwheel | she's about 8 %age points behind where she'd have a 50/50 chance |
| 17:17.57 | Adys | Shirik: wtf is what? |
| 17:18.33 | Ackis | 3620 |
| 17:18.41 | Arrowmaster | 2468 |
| 17:18.42 | Adys | 1740 |
| 17:19.06 | Xinhuan | i think i'll just close my browser, 9k queue |
| 17:19.23 | Adys | come on Xinhuan dont be like that |
| 17:19.25 | Adys | theres still hope. |
| 17:19.31 | Arrowmaster | im starting to think about what i can do to automate getting into the queue faster on the 25th |
| 17:19.43 | Jamash | The Witchdoctor is not a licensed medical professional. Fair warning. |
| 17:19.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: nothing; refresh fast thats it |
| 17:19.55 | Adys | the rest doesnt matter |
| 17:20.20 | Jamash | be like the guy who patched himself into every line on the switchboard to win a radio "nth call-in" contest |
| 17:20.42 | Jamash | use every open proxy/tor node on the internets to log in at once |
| 17:20.47 | Xinhuan | hire 10 friends to refresh for you on 10 computers |
| 17:20.48 | Adys | wtf, 30-35% was 50 position queues |
| 17:20.53 | Adys | this queue isnt right |
| 17:21.01 | Adys | that or they're selling 1000 tickets |
| 17:21.05 | |Jelly|_ | hehe |
| 17:21.41 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be surprised if they sold less today than on the 25th |
| 17:21.44 | cogwheel | the stock remaining and queue positions aren't synchronized |
| 17:21.48 | cogwheel | (adys) |
| 17:22.03 | Adys | yeah better not be |
| 17:22.11 | Arrowmaster | 1900 |
| 17:22.42 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: gah, only got done with problem A.. have to leave for dinner soon |
| 17:22.46 | karl_w_w | <Adys> Arrowmaster: nothing; refresh fast thats it <- set your brower to not download css :P |
| 17:22.51 | jnwhiteh | should have competed this morning, would have qualified. |
| 17:23.00 | Fisker | i don't really get why people are buying blizzcon tickets though |
| 17:23.01 | Adys | It looks like there are 840 positions left |
| 17:23.03 | Fisker | world ends today |
| 17:23.07 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 17:23.09 | jnwhiteh | rapture is today |
| 17:23.11 | jnwhiteh | totes different |
| 17:23.18 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 17:23.26 | Fisker | i'm getting my Eee Pad Transformer soon |
| 17:23.39 | Fisker | if only it wasn't a damn weekend |
| 17:23.42 | Fisker | i hate weekends |
| 17:23.43 | cogwheel | Fisker: lemme know how bad it lags 1080p video |
| 17:23.49 | Adys | I just calculated 840 positions left and I'm at 890 |
| 17:23.50 | Adys | . |
| 17:24.18 | Fisker | well some people just queue up for the queue game |
| 17:24.27 | Fisker | what do you mean cogwheel ? |
| 17:24.48 | cogwheel | every demo i've seen of the transformer has choppy video |
| 17:25.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (~Daniel@c-98-225-45-244.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:25.13 | cogwheel | lunessa is at 42 |
| 17:25.19 | Fisker | well it's not supposed to do 1080p rendering |
| 17:25.21 | Fisker | so duh? |
| 17:25.30 | Arrowmaster | why isnt lunessa in here? |
| 17:25.33 | cogwheel | not even through hdmi? |
| 17:25.39 | Adys | stock just went up a littleOo |
| 17:25.43 | Adys | from 12% to 14% |
| 17:25.49 | karl_w_w | wouldnt surprise me if a driver fixes it cog |
| 17:25.54 | karl_w_w | at some stage |
| 17:25.55 | Fisker | yes cogwheel |
| 17:25.57 | Fisker | but i mean movies |
| 17:25.58 | Fisker | but it is |
| 17:26.02 | Fisker | just not high profile |
| 17:26.10 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: he's too lazy to install an irc client at home |
| 17:26.11 | Fisker | which is like 100% of all scene releases anyway |
| 17:26.15 | Fisker | so you have to reencode |
| 17:26.35 | cogwheel | fails |
| 17:26.42 | Adys | sold out |
| 17:26.43 | Arrowmaster | FUCK |
| 17:26.46 | Xinhuan | item is sold out. |
| 17:26.48 | Ackis | THE ITEMS IN YOUR CART HAVE SOLD OUT |
| 17:26.52 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 17:26.58 | Adys | was 175th in queue |
| 17:26.58 | Adys | :P |
| 17:27.02 | cogwheel | ouch |
| 17:27.04 | A-KO | that sucks Adys |
| 17:27.09 | Arrowmaster | did anybody here get tickets? |
| 17:27.12 | Xinhuan | so who actually managed to get any tickets in here |
| 17:27.14 | Adys | Bluspacecow prolly |
| 17:27.22 | Fisker | so Adys was responsible for the end of the world |
| 17:27.22 | Ackis | Shirik too |
| 17:27.22 | Adys | A-KO: well I'm not going as i said, just buying for the channel |
| 17:27.30 | A-KO | ahh |
| 17:27.35 | A-KO | yeah, just me and a buddy are going |
| 17:27.36 | Bluspacecow | i did and for 2 of my friends |
| 17:27.47 | Fisker | me? |
| 17:27.49 | Fisker | you shouldn't have |
| 17:27.50 | Arrowmaster | why didnt you buy 4 tickets |
| 17:28.25 | Xinhuan | so how many tickets did you think they sold today? |
| 17:28.31 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: topic needs updating |
| 17:28.31 | Jamash | ALL OF THEM |
| 17:28.40 | Fisker | a billion Jamash |
| 17:28.49 | haste | a Fisker ! |
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| 17:29.12 | Adys | if i remember the numbers from last year |
| 17:29.26 | Adys | it was 2.5 seconds the first day, 3.5 seconds the second day |
| 17:29.45 | Arrowmaster | i refreshed faster than that |
| 17:29.48 | Adys | so "normally" more people would be able to get in next time |
| 17:30.22 | Adys | Arrowmaster: so did i; either tickets are selling even faster this year for some reason or servers aren't synced |
| 17:30.28 | Dewin | Gah, when you're selling out that fast you should move to a lottery. |
| 17:30.42 | Adys | um |
| 17:30.46 | Adys | this essentially is a lottery |
| 17:30.50 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:31.12 | Dewin | I meant a longer term lottery. |
| 17:31.18 | Fisker | disagreed |
| 17:31.21 | Jamash | a real lottery, there should be a day-long period for people to sign up, then a week-long period to claim |
| 17:31.25 | Adys | why, so you can stress about whether you get in for longer? |
| 17:31.30 | Dewin | Jamash: That's what I was thinking. |
| 17:31.37 | Adys | i dont understand |
| 17:31.38 | Dewin | I don't care though, I don't go to Blizzcon. |
| 17:31.41 | Adys | this gives you even less chance to get in |
| 17:31.56 | Jamash | because "who can click fastest" is a bad way to assign tickets |
| 17:31.56 | Adys | and it doesnt give room for people who change their mind during the queue |
| 17:32.00 | Dewin | ^ |
| 17:32.02 | Arrowmaster | so what am i going to have to do for the wowi and curse ticket giveaways |
| 17:32.16 | Jamash | what do you mean Adys |
| 17:32.33 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: there aren't any to give away this year, either |
| 17:32.45 | Cairenn | they've stopped giving us tickets to raffle off |
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| 17:32.56 | Fisker | $_$ |
| 17:33.00 | Adys | Jamash: i mean that out there theres a bunch of groups of 4 friends who each refresh their own page in their own corner, and if one of them gets in they can buy tickets for all 4 |
| 17:33.01 | Jamash | aww |
| 17:33.02 | Cairenn | we haven't had any to raffle off for a couple years now |
| 17:33.04 | Adys | and the 4 others drop the queue |
| 17:33.18 | Dewin | Or the other 4 go "Oh, we got tickets? Sweet, we can sell them"? |
| 17:33.23 | Jamash | Adys: yeah, so? |
| 17:33.37 | Adys | so if you moved to a lottery you'd lose that margin. |
| 17:33.43 | Jamash | what margin |
| 17:33.58 | Adys | Dewin: do you really think that everyone out there who has spare tickets in the queue stays in to sell them? |
| 17:34.06 | Adys | selling a blizzcon ticket is not low risk |
| 17:34.09 | Adys | and its a lot of hassle |
| 17:34.17 | Dewin | Adys: I bet there's a fairly hefty amount. |
| 17:34.27 | Fisker | in Oceans 13 it was a lot of hassle too |
| 17:34.28 | Adys | a hefty amount does not equal everyone. |
| 17:34.28 | Jamash | if I sign up for the lottery, get an invite, then choose not to purchase tickets or fail to purchase them after say 48 hours, they would be handed out to someone else |
| 17:34.37 | Dewin | Jamash: And that's what I was thinking. |
| 17:34.46 | Adys | why do you guys even care? |
| 17:34.54 | Jamash | because I think the current system is bad |
| 17:35.11 | Fisker | simple solution |
| 17:35.13 | Fisker | no lottery |
| 17:35.13 | Jamash | it's better than the old system, which was "the website crashes" |
| 17:35.15 | Fisker | moar blizzcons |
| 17:35.18 | Dewin | The system I had in mind would have you put down a $20-50 deposit per ticket (to ensure you're genuinely interested) and refund it if you weren't selected at the lottery draw date. |
| 17:35.20 | Adys | the website does not crash. |
| 17:35.34 | Adys | the last time the website crashed was 3 years ago, they did a second sale |
| 17:35.43 | Jamash | I said the old system was that the website crashes |
| 17:35.48 | Jamash | the current system is the queue |
| 17:36.00 | Adys | whats wrong with a queue? |
| 17:36.03 | Torhal|work | Can't we all just get along? |
| 17:36.06 | Jamash | what's wrong with a lottery? |
| 17:36.22 | Dewin | By the sounds of it, it's less a queue and more a mob of people trying to rush into a building at the same time and then the people lucky enough to make it in being put in a line. |
| 17:36.25 | Fisker | what's wrong with moar blizzcons? |
| 17:36.39 | Adys | a lottery is pure random, a queue is more or less pure random too, why change to a system that takes a WEEK to sell instead of 20 minutes? |
| 17:36.50 | Fisker | http://shop.ebay.com/mkaeslin/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686 <-GET HIm |
| 17:36.53 | Fisker | with a big M |
| 17:36.53 | Jamash | things wrong with a queue: You have to be at your computer at the exact instant ticket sales begin, it's dependent on your physical connection and network, etc |
| 17:37.24 | Jamash | that's an interesting way of trying to get around the rules |
| 17:37.32 | Adys | you're about to blast over 1500 usd into a convention |
| 17:37.43 | Adys | if you cant afford a good connection, you shouldnt be going to blizzcon |
| 17:37.53 | Shirik | why would you do that while there's tickets still to be sold |
| 17:37.55 | Jamash | that's so dumb I can't even fathom a response |
| 17:38.10 | karl_w_w | <Adys> if you cant afford a good connection, you shouldnt be going to blizzcon <- what a load of bullshit |
| 17:38.29 | Dewin | If your connection happens to be down at that precise moment? Or perhaps the nature of your job makes you unavailable during the window tickets are sold? |
| 17:38.32 | Adys | the connection stops being a factor once you dont have a dialup. |
| 17:38.45 | Jamash | You know on-duty servicepeople in Afghanistan play wow, right? What if you're due to come home before BC? |
| 17:38.55 | Jamash | what if you're on an airplane? |
| 17:39.00 | Alram | yay doctor who in 5 |
| 17:39.11 | Jamash | what if some jackass takes out a fiber optic cable with a backhoe? |
| 17:39.13 | Adys | again, to all those reasons: theres a second sale |
| 17:39.23 | Arrowmaster | Alram: airing or available for download? |
| 17:39.28 | karl_w_w | at what time in the day adys? |
| 17:39.30 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: shotgun |
| 17:39.32 | Alram | airing |
| 17:39.34 | Shirik | in the evening karl_w_w |
| 17:39.38 | Shirik | I forget the exact time |
| 17:39.39 | Fisker | don't be a pirate Arrowmaster |
| 17:39.46 | Adys | a different time than today |
| 17:39.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 17:39.53 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:39.55 | Adys | they do that to accomodate both eu and us |
| 17:40.05 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: so do we all hate you now? |
| 17:40.10 | Lunessa | Yes, you hate me. |
| 17:40.11 | karl_w_w | and fuck everyone else i guess :P |
| 17:40.12 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 17:40.17 | Cairenn | hugs Lunessa |
| 17:40.19 | Adys | karl_w_w: once again |
| 17:40.25 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 17:40.27 | Adys | if you're going to blow 2000 usd to go to a convention |
| 17:40.30 | Lunessa | I'm going to BlizzCon... BITCHES! |
| 17:40.31 | |Jelly| | oh oh oh ... can I be hated? |
| 17:40.35 | Shirik | cheers with Lunessa |
| 17:40.36 | Adys | you can stay up in the morning or evening to buy tickets |
| 17:40.39 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: some asshat in northern ohio dug up a fiber trunk line and shot it with a shotgun |
| 17:40.40 | Adys | seriously |
| 17:40.53 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster - oh shit, son. |
| 17:41.05 | Arrowmaster | was years ago |
| 17:41.12 | Adys | you two are US-based, I cant possibly believe *you* would complain about this stuff |
| 17:41.14 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 17:41.21 | Jamash | Adys thinks that if you're going to spend $dollars on blizzcon but you can't queue yourself you should pay someone to sit in the queue for you |
| 17:41.23 | kd3 | notes a distinct lack of fire and brimstone |
| 17:41.30 | |Jelly| | Arrowmaster: Wait .. what? |
| 17:41.31 | Lunessa | Adys - didn't make it? |
| 17:41.33 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 17:41.35 | Jamash | paying someone to queue for you is better than having a lottery |
| 17:41.36 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 17:41.44 | Adys | Lunessa: Im just buying for the channel, not going this year |
| 17:41.52 | Lunessa | Kamdis and Jelly are in too. |
| 17:41.59 | Jamash | because Adys was scared by a lottery as a young troll |
| 17:42.01 | |Jelly| | YES! Jelly is finally going! SO THERE! |
| 17:42.02 | cogwheel | i'm going to try next week before the begging begins |
| 17:42.09 | Lunessa | Adys - You're a hero. A credit to your heritage. |
| 17:42.23 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: he was 175 away, hes not a hero |
| 17:42.31 | Fisker | u jelly |Jelly| ? |
| 17:42.36 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 17:42.40 | Adys | Jamash: here's a tip: instead of whining that it should be a lottery, do the same as I did and buy for the channel. |
| 17:42.43 | |Jelly| | No, I'm not jelly - I'm going. |
| 17:42.45 | Fisker | is he an hero Arrowmaster ? |
| 17:42.50 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: yes |
| 17:43.09 | cogwheel | Fisker: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
| 17:43.13 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 17:43.15 | karl_w_w | "an hero" = a nero |
| 17:43.21 | Jamash | I'm not whining, I'm criticizing. |
| 17:43.30 | Arrowmaster | i need to get a ticket so i can finally meet |Jelly| so ill have meet 2 people from my former server |
| 17:43.34 | Adys | .. but why? |
| 17:43.48 | Dewin | btw Adys, in response to " why, so you can stress about whether you get in for longer?" |
| 17:44.05 | Dewin | I imagine people are doing that from when Blizzcon is announced to the ticket purchase date already. |
| 17:44.07 | Jamash | Adys: Why are you defending the queue? |
| 17:44.07 | karl_w_w | it's the basis of human innocation Adys |
| 17:44.14 | karl_w_w | innovation |
| 17:44.26 | Adys | I'm defending the queue because it's a first-come-first-served system |
| 17:44.40 | karl_w_w | no its not |
| 17:44.45 | zenzelezz | FIFO lulz |
| 17:44.50 | karl_w_w | every1 who got a ticket was there before it started |
| 17:45.07 | Dewin | I repeat my 'mob of people trying to rush into a theater with those who make it in being put in a line' analogy. |
| 17:45.15 | Adys | i dont get it |
| 17:45.18 | Jamash | And I'm criticizing the queue because it's a first-come-first-served system, which a stupid way to sell things on the internet. |
| 17:45.20 | Adys | did you get bruises while waiting in the queue? |
| 17:45.34 | Adys | Jamash: a lottery does not fix any problem the queue has |
| 17:45.37 | Adys | thats my point |
| 17:45.39 | Jamash | Adys: Yes it does |
| 17:45.52 | Jamash | You just refuse to acknowledge that any of the problems I've identified are problems. |
| 17:46.08 | Bluspacecow | i vote everyone has name plates attached to their heads this year |
| 17:46.12 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: yeah the proper way to sell the tickets is an auction, the 20,000 people that bid the highest amount or however many tickets there are get one |
| 17:46.21 | Shirik | Bluspacecow: How about I wear a badge? |
| 17:46.24 | Adys | if you're going to try fix an absolute age-old problem which is "rewards go to those who deserve them" |
| 17:46.27 | Adys | go found a religion |
| 17:46.30 | Arrowmaster | really thats the proper way to sell a limited supply item on the internet, but blizzard doesnt want to do that |
| 17:46.35 | Adys | instead of trying to whine about a queue vs lottery |
| 17:46.40 | Jamash | Adys: You're an idiot. |
| 17:46.57 | Shirik | enough bickering |
| 17:47.04 | Jamash | I'm done |
| 17:47.06 | Arrowmaster | Bluspacecow: i had 2 name plates on last year |
| 17:47.11 | karl_w_w | <Bluspacecow> i vote everyone has name plates attached to their heads this year <- i believe attaching them to shirts is more customary :P |
| 17:47.14 | Torhal|work | Don't make Shirik go Rodney King on your asses. |
| 17:47.19 | Adys | i'm not an idiot, I'm someone who's aware that what you're complaining about is the same thing as those described in a bunch of religious books |
| 17:47.20 | Shirik | who's that |
| 17:47.24 | Arrowmaster | Torhal|work: get me a curse ticket |
| 17:47.25 | Bluspacecow | yeah but shirik |
| 17:47.33 | Bluspacecow | how _big_ is your badge |
| 17:47.38 | cogwheel | Jamash's point is that blizzard should do what it can to make sure the element of randomness is as much in control of the purchaser as possible |
| 17:47.48 | Bluspacecow | will i have to squint at it and go '... OH HAI SHIRIK |
| 17:47.59 | cogwheel | it's like if you were playing craps and had to let someone else roll your dice |
| 17:48.08 | Shirik | chances are I'll be stuck behind a table anyway |
| 17:48.08 | Bluspacecow | i'll be wearing a shirt with my toon name on it |
| 17:48.09 | Torhal|work | Arrowmaster: We have to buy 'em too |
| 17:48.15 | Torhal|work | The company, that is. |
| 17:48.16 | Adys | cogwheel: i agree behind the intention, but theres a difference |
| 17:48.17 | Dewin | I think the size of one's badge is a rather personal question, don't you? |
| 17:48.23 | Lunessa | Hah. I'd played 5 rounds of Diablo III Arena with Shirik beofre I realized who he was. |
| 17:48.33 | Arrowmaster | Torhal|work: at same cost right? |
| 17:48.45 | Torhal|work | Arrowmaster: Yup |
| 17:48.55 | Arrowmaster | Torhal|work: so buy 1 more for me and ill pay you back |
| 17:49.10 | Adys | cogwheel: apart from the odd few that are stuck behind bad connections for logistical reasons (and those still get to go to blizzcon through other means) |
| 17:49.40 | Adys | cogwheel: everyone i know of who wants to go to blizzcon ends up under 7000ish in the queue |
| 17:49.53 | Xinhuan | his point is still that people shouldn't have to go through hoops |
| 17:49.54 | Adys | fact: if you were in a lottery, you'd be against ten times that |
| 17:49.57 | Torhal|work | Arrowmaster: Sale's up again in four days, so if I happen to not get caught by a fucking bicycle marathon again... |
| 17:50.08 | Torhal|work | Bastards caused me to not get in today. |
| 17:50.17 | cogwheel | yeah, a lottery would definitely reduce the chances of people in this channel |
| 17:50.28 | cogwheel | but it would increase the chances of the entire population |
| 17:50.29 | karl_w_w | so who's Torhal then Adys? |
| 17:50.32 | karl_w_w | dont you know him? |
| 17:50.33 | Arrowmaster | Torhal|work: i thought you guys just told blizz how many you needed |
| 17:50.44 | Torhal|work | Arrowmaster: No - we're just like everyone else. |
| 17:50.48 | zenzelezz | they did, and Blizzard said lulz |
| 17:50.50 | Torhal|work | We make a concerted effort though |
| 17:50.54 | Adys | karl_w_w: as I said, two sales |
| 17:51.04 | cogwheel | so i guess it depends on your principles ;) |
| 17:51.06 | karl_w_w | let's hope he doesnt get unlucky again |
| 17:51.07 | Lunessa | An auction would alienate large numbers of their customers too. |
| 17:51.07 | Adys | i cant stress this enough: a lottery would attract a LOT more people |
| 17:51.09 | Torhal|work | I just happened to get screwed over by the city blocking off our building today |
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| 17:51.22 | karl_w_w | and lets hope there's no on-call doctors out there who might like to go to blizzcon |
| 17:51.33 | olafski | should I be using 2 daggers as a sub rogue or does only the MH have to be one? and I assume a slower one is better? :< |
| 17:52.00 | Adys | karl_w_w: it's nice of you to think of others; can I repeat what I said earlier? Buy for the channel. |
| 17:52.22 | cogwheel | Adys: there are other others than people in this channel |
| 17:52.47 | karl_w_w | so now i point out a hole in your argument, you change the argument to be about me |
| 17:52.55 | karl_w_w | that's the end of any conversation |
| 17:53.05 | Adys | i go through all my contacts every year and ask who wants tickets reserved |
| 17:53.23 | Adys | and i know a bunch of people who do that, and i think it's a completely *normal* thing to do |
| 17:53.38 | Xinhuan | Adys, you didn't actually manage to buy any right? 2 digit queue or something |
| 17:53.49 | Dewin | Adys: Doesn't that technically break it being FIFO, since your friends weren't first in at all? |
| 17:53.51 | Adys | Xinhuan: yeah; but trying again on the 25th |
| 17:54.08 | Xinhuan | i guess i'll try too, but the internet from my workplace is shit as hell |
| 17:54.16 | cogwheel | Adys: pointing out that there are ways to game the system doesn't actually demonstrate that something else wouldn't be better |
| 17:54.18 | Xinhuan | (it would be on sale again at 10am thurs for me) |
| 17:54.20 | cogwheel | just sayin' |
| 17:54.36 | cogwheel | you'd be able to do the same thing if you win the lottery |
| 17:54.45 | Adys | Dewin: lemme rephrase: i dont think the queue is "right", I think it's the least problematic |
| 17:55.03 | Dewin | again I still don't think a queue that fills in a seconds is a queue at all |
| 17:55.10 | cogwheel | and the only problem you've illustrated is that people in your circle of friends would be put at a disadvantage |
| 17:55.11 | Adys | once again, there are hundreds of religions out there trying to solve the problem you're describing. |
| 17:55.13 | Dewin | It's just a 3 second long lottery. |
| 17:55.57 | cogwheel | so i don't actually see that as problematic |
| 17:55.57 | Dewin | biased towards those who have the fewest and lowest latency hops between them and whatever server is handling it al |
| 17:56.13 | Jamash | I gotta say, putting Adys on ignore is a lot like having the rapture take away all the idiots. |
| 17:56.26 | Adys | Shirik: can you do something about Jamash? I'm tired of getting insulted |
| 17:57.04 | Adys | Dewin: the two years before this one I was on terrible connections too; my stance on the queue has never changed |
| 17:57.05 | zenzelezz | Jamash: I don't understand that... the rapture didn't happen, so you're still listening to Adys? |
| 17:57.20 | Jamash | I mean it's my own personal simulated rapture |
| 17:57.25 | Arrowmaster | both of you stop it before you anger she who must not be pinged |
| 17:57.28 | Adys | i was happy when they introduced it, i was happy to get beat by it and i was happy to make it to the end |
| 17:57.49 | cogwheel | Jamash: principled != idiot imo |
| 17:57.55 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: she has been watching and is far less than amused |
| 17:58.01 | cogwheel | principles can be changed by persuasion. idiocy, not so much |
| 17:58.05 | Arrowmaster | see! |
| 17:58.12 | Jamash | he can be both |
| 17:58.33 | Cairenn | Jamash: enough |
| 17:59.04 | Adys | cogwheel: i maintain that i dont believe the queue is right; but a lottery certainly isn't. and when i get in the queue every year, i feel im against 6000 people more or less. if i were in a lottery, I'd feel i'd be against 70000. |
| 17:59.15 | Dewin | I don't even know why I'm involved in this argument anyways. It's not like I'm even interested in going to Blizzcon or otherwise acquiring tickets. |
| 17:59.22 | Cairenn | how many fracking times do I have to tell you guys to keep it civil in here |
| 17:59.42 | Adys | sorry Cairenn; I'm stopping here |
| 17:59.43 | cogwheel | Adys: exactly. You feel like you would be at more of a disadvantage, therefore you don't agree with it. |
| 17:59.44 | Arrowmaster | you keep count? |
| 17:59.53 | Dewin | Adys: If there was a deposit required to even enter the lottery, that number would be signfiicantly less. And if it was done right, there would be. |
| 18:00.03 | Adys | cogwheel: I'm not going, so i dont feel this personally; I feel that everyone would be in this situation |
| 18:00.16 | cogwheel | but that's a mathematically untenable position |
| 18:00.20 | Adys | as many would participate, as many would get in, but the odds would feel terrible |
| 18:00.22 | cogwheel | feelings and math don't mix |
| 18:01.27 | cogwheel | There are X number of people who want to buy tickets. There are Y number of people capable of meeting the requirements for purchasing tickets (connection, schedule, friends going, etc) |
| 18:01.33 | cogwheel | X is necessarily > Y |
| 18:01.37 | Jamash | I was trying to indicate that it's not worth arguing about, not trying to start another argument, but I can see that was unproductive, so I'll just sit this out. |
| 18:01.45 | cogwheel | a queue limits Y more than a lottery |
| 18:02.00 | cogwheel | I'd rather see Y maximized |
| 18:02.23 | zenzelezz | there are websites where you can see all the Y you want |
| 18:02.26 | Adys | i know it sucks for those few who cant make it due to luck (and ive been there too) |
| 18:02.48 | cogwheel | Adys: why do you prefer luck to have a greater influence though? |
| 18:02.58 | Adys | actually, the opposite |
| 18:03.22 | Adys | my problem: when it's some guys who barely care about blizzcon, they see a lottery and they think "sure why not", I feel it puts those who *really* want to go at a disadvantage |
| 18:03.30 | cogwheel | yes it's all about feeling |
| 18:03.32 | Adys | and those are the ones sitting at their screen refreshing like mad |
| 18:03.36 | cogwheel | you care more about what other people think |
| 18:03.38 | cogwheel | and deserve |
| 18:03.39 | Dewin | Adys: That's why you have the deposit |
| 18:03.50 | cogwheel | than what's actually fair |
| 18:04.04 | Adys | a deposit doesn't matter Dewin; if you have money to waste and want to go, theres ebay |
| 18:04.22 | Dewin | Adys: The deposit discourages people who aren't interested from committing money to it. |
| 18:04.46 | Adys | interest and money dont always match |
| 18:04.53 | Dewin | I said discourages, does not eliminate |
| 18:05.15 | karl_w_w | and the people who queue up for lulz? |
| 18:05.27 | Dewin | Especially if you set it up such that if you're selected AND don't buy your tickets in time, you forfeit the deposit. |
| 18:05.33 | Adys | the people who queue up for lulz and dont actually buy anything get thrown off the queue when they close their window |
| 18:05.35 | Dewin | (If you're not selected at all, it'd be refunded of course) |
| 18:06.08 | karl_w_w | so how is that different to people who enter the lottery and dont buy |
| 18:06.15 | cogwheel | it's not |
| 18:06.17 | Adys | it's not |
| 18:06.22 | cogwheel | don't get sidetracked! |
| 18:06.23 | cogwheel | :P |
| 18:06.40 | Adys | my problem lies with the ones who enter the lottery despite a low interest in the convention itself |
| 18:06.49 | cogwheel | you want to be thought police |
| 18:07.00 | cogwheel | (hyperbole) |
| 18:07.03 | Adys | i dont want to be anything, where do you get that from? |
| 18:07.19 | cogwheel | you want people to suffer consequences of how they feel about something |
| 18:07.31 | cogwheel | artificial consequences* |
| 18:07.50 | cogwheel | this is the implication of your position |
| 18:08.05 | cogwheel | regardless of whether you actually feel that way directly |
| 18:08.15 | Adys | theres really no implication to my position. i agree with blizzard's queue, I certainly don't implicate anything by it |
| 18:08.19 | karl_w_w | your argument is that there is a threshold of interest above which you must be to deserve a ticket. the flaw in your argument is that it assumes you have to be a die-hard fan to be online at the right time to queue |
| 18:08.24 | cogwheel | ... |
| 18:08.27 | cogwheel | ~dict imply |
| 18:08.39 | zenzelezz | if this discussion had a Y-axis, it'd be a spiral by now |
| 18:08.41 | cogwheel | have as a logical consequence |
| 18:09.25 | Adys | karl_w_w: i dont say die-hard fan. but yeah, lots of people out there dont join the queue because they "cba" |
| 18:09.40 | karl_w_w | and lots dont because they can't |
| 18:09.42 | Xinhuan | realistically, if you are committed enough to go to blizzcon, you're considered a die-hard fan already :P |
| 18:09.47 | Jamash | so, who likes cheesecake |
| 18:09.51 | Adys | exactly Xinhuan |
| 18:09.54 | cogwheel | only my grandma's |
| 18:10.09 | cogwheel | i can't stand most bakery or store-bought cheescake |
| 18:10.11 | Jamash | ever been to the cheesecake factory? |
| 18:10.37 | karl_w_w | agrees with Jamash's train of thought |
| 18:10.38 | Fisker | i don't know about you but i just ate some icecream |
| 18:10.40 | Fisker | which was awesome |
| 18:10.44 | cogwheel | i think i've had some from there... definitely better than others |
| 18:10.46 | Fisker | so what to do now? |
| 18:10.48 | Jamash | that sounds like a good idea |
| 18:10.54 | Jamash | it's really warm here |
| 18:11.10 | Fisker | takes of all his clothes |
| 18:11.13 | Lunessa | I like all kinds of cheesecake, especially the photographic kind *leer* |
| 18:11.20 | Adys | karl_w_w: stopping here, but a lottery would also open doors to those who just want to sell them but also fit the "cba" category. those are just looking for ways to make money. |
| 18:11.30 | Jamash | trust lunessa to drag this into the gutter |
| 18:11.42 | Fisker | the solution is still moar blizzcons though |
| 18:11.44 | Lunessa | The gutter is a step UP for me, pal. |
| 18:12.02 | karl_w_w | Adys: you mean people like you? |
| 18:12.09 | Cairenn | So here's a question for those of you that have attended in previous years - do we want to go with Bubba Gump's again for the UI Community Dinner on the Thursday evening, since they've been treating us so well, or do you guys want me to try to find somewhere else? |
| 18:12.13 | Jamash | woah, their site says "Cheat on your favorite dish" and "Dish Swapping", maybe they're at your level |
| 18:12.15 | cogwheel | they should get a bigger convention center |
| 18:12.33 | Adys | karl_w_w: I'm buying for the channel; I don't overcharge anyone, it's 175usd with no charge. |
| 18:12.34 | Lunessa | I like the service there, but the menu leaves something to be desired. |
| 18:12.46 | karl_w_w | no but u cba, and you're buying them anyway |
| 18:12.59 | karl_w_w | so why cant anyone else do that? |
| 18:13.00 | cogwheel | Lunessa: like cholesterol medication |
| 18:13.09 | Jamash | there's a cheesecake factory right next to Bubba Gump's |
| 18:13.11 | Adys | karl_w_w: if, once everything is sold, i still have tickets, i may sell them on ebay; but ask Arrowmaster, I gave him a ticket for free last year. |
| 18:13.16 | karl_w_w | the current system does nothing to filter those people out |
| 18:13.19 | Cairenn | Jamash: I know |
| 18:13.34 | Lunessa | cogwheel It's mostly fish. And that means my choices are Chicken (though last year they had ribs). |
| 18:13.43 | Jamash | I'm not going to blizzcon so I'm not voting, but nonetheless I vote for cheesecake factory |
| 18:13.52 | cogwheel | chicken's just land fish with feathers... |
| 18:13.57 | Adys | karl_w_w: I'm really not in for the profit; I make yearly losses on blizzcon. |
| 18:13.59 | cogwheel | :P |
| 18:14.00 | karl_w_w | its not like the cba people are going to be surprised that tickets are going on sale |
| 18:14.03 | Trela | BUBBA GUMP'S! |
| 18:14.07 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: i wanted to goto the place with the giant hamburger but its too far away |
| 18:14.16 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: sowwy |
| 18:14.50 | Jamash | I had some deep-fried battered mushrooms at the cheesecake factory across the street from the seattle convention center and they were incredible |
| 18:14.57 | Adys | karl_w_w: and, no offense mate, but 2 hours ago you were asking if the help i was giving was financial. |
| 18:14.59 | cogwheel | it's not exactly a good place for an event, but if anyone needs to go out to eat, the indian restaurant at the corner of katella & harbor is awesome |
| 18:15.12 | cogwheel | (i forget which hotel it's in) |
| 18:15.26 | Lunessa | Yes, it is. the food is excellent. |
| 18:15.56 | Jamash | my devious plan has backfired; now I'm craving cheesecake :( |
| 18:16.34 | Xinhuan | i thought you don't have a ticket, Cairenn :P |
| 18:16.39 | Shirik | cogwheel: I suspect no convention center would be big enough |
| 18:16.41 | karl_w_w | was a joke Adys, i have no interest in going to blizzcon |
| 18:16.54 | Adys | Cairenn: my vote doesn't count, but bubba gump would definitely be the place :) |
| 18:16.57 | Cairenn | I never said that, I said that I wasn't in the queue to try to get any |
| 18:17.07 | Xinhuan | lol ok |
| 18:17.15 | airtonix | i vote McDonalds |
| 18:17.20 | karl_w_w | and if i did have interest, i' be able to affod the ticket. but not the flight :P |
| 18:17.23 | Shirik | she hax the blizzard store |
| 18:17.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: thats why they should rent out an entire city instead of a convention center |
| 18:17.46 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: next year they'll buy the city |
| 18:17.47 | Xinhuan | i also think bubba is fine |
| 18:17.48 | Adys | Arrowmaster: are you calling us fat? |
| 18:18.10 | Shirik | is fat |
| 18:18.17 | Jamash | they should build their own theme park |
| 18:18.18 | cogwheel | Shirik: one convention center for each franchise in vegas imo |
| 18:18.20 | Cairenn | is |
| 18:18.20 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: you could always goto the City of Stormwind |
| 18:18.30 | Jamash | you mean white castle? |
| 18:18.34 | airtonix | they own that |
| 18:18.34 | Lunessa | I'm totally fat. |
| 18:18.38 | Dewin | Heh, PAX is now sprawling and has some of the convention in an adjoining hotel and some of it in a concert hall 5 blocks away. |
| 18:18.41 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: remember she gets the special tickets |
| 18:18.51 | Cairenn | cogwheel: that's the actual solution to the problem - they need to move the damn convention to Vegas |
| 18:18.53 | Jamash | PAX is taking over seattle, one block at a time |
| 18:19.03 | Dewin | Are you going, Jamash? |
| 18:19.09 | Jamash | to PAX, yes |
| 18:19.12 | Xinhuan | vegas? too expensive |
| 18:19.17 | cogwheel | not really |
| 18:19.22 | Adys | i wouldn't go back if it were in vegas |
| 18:19.26 | cogwheel | there are so many good deals because they want you to gamble |
| 18:19.29 | Jamash | drunk orcs and dwarves in the same building = bad idea |
| 18:19.29 | Arrowmaster | well in vegas if the convention gets too large you just add another casino |
| 18:19.36 | cogwheel | and it's much more accessible, travel-wise |
| 18:20.01 | Cairenn | a lot more places for post-con parties |
| 18:20.01 | Shirik | so what is this failocalypse thing? |
| 18:20.03 | Dewin | Jamash: Hope you already got your tickets. 3-days sold out before earlybird reg ended this year. |
| 18:20.12 | Adys | Shirik: its a game from 2007 |
| 18:20.13 | Jamash | Dewin: yeah I got mine on the last day |
| 18:20.30 | Jamash | twitter actually came in useful, who knew |
| 18:20.37 | Dewin | Some of our guild (myself included) are going. |
| 18:20.53 | Dewin | We aren't doing the 'rent a house with a bazillion bedrooms for a group of 20' thing this year though. |
| 18:20.56 | Adys | Shirik: whats the kde launcher called? |
| 18:20.58 | Adys | the alt-f2 one |
| 18:21.08 | Adys | i killed it and cant remember its name |
| 18:21.08 | Shirik | how should I know |
| 18:21.15 | Adys | how useful are you? |
| 18:21.27 | zenzelezz | somehow I read Dewin's sentences as "... group of 20-foot things" |
| 18:21.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:21.50 | Jamash | PAX is really really awesome, I played the Order of the Stick board game last year, and after the game I stood up on a chair and yelled "I AM A SEXY SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!" |
| 18:22.03 | Jamash | no points for guessing which character I picked |
| 18:22.42 | Dewin | Yeah, I'm trying to spend less and less time on the expo floor and more doing the other activities. |
| 18:23.16 | Dewin | We went to the Raid Warning panel last year, where I failed at winning a Neuros OSD box by answering a trivia question at the exact same time as the person in front of me (and I had already won a... lousy t-shirt) |
| 18:23.18 | Jamash | I try to keep expo floor time down to buying things, playing games I otherwise wouldn't get a chance to (like Eye of Judgement) and picking up swag |
| 18:23.25 | Dewin | Apparently only like 8 people in the panel actually listened to the podcast. |
| 18:23.42 | Jamash | aw |
| 18:23.44 | Dewin | (My wife being one of them) |
| 18:24.16 | Jamash | I got a portal t-shirt last year |
| 18:24.56 | Jamash | that reminds me, I need to watch more episodes of Gurren Lagann so my sister will play co-op portal 2 with me |
| 18:24.57 | Adys | Shirik: krunner |
| 18:26.11 | Dewin | Jamash: I skipped Portal 2 and DNF, didn't want to spend the entire con waiting in line :) |
| 18:26.26 | Jamash | yeah, well, I wanted the shirt |
| 18:26.42 | Jamash | also I thought maybe it was playable >.> (it wasn't) |
| 18:26.45 | Arrowmaster | Dewin: i skipped D3 last blizzcon for similar reasons |
| 18:27.00 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 18:27.01 | Jamash | that's my one regret not going to blizzcon |
| 18:27.05 | Thunder_Child | silly long lines |
| 18:27.09 | Jamash | I really want to try D3 |
| 18:27.14 | Arrowmaster | long lines and my feet were killing me |
| 18:27.25 | Dewin | Jamash: And it probably won't be playable at PAX since they haven't had it playable at Blizzcon yet. |
| 18:27.28 | Thunder_Child | and what, 15 min of play time? |
| 18:27.34 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 18:27.37 | Dewin | whereas last year Cata was playable. |
| 18:27.50 | Jamash | D3's been playable for ages at BC |
| 18:28.03 | Jamash | it was playable... 2? 3 years ago? |
| 18:28.34 | Adys | i systematically refused to play d3, even when it was playable in the press room.. surprise-me at the release |
| 18:28.46 | Dewin | Oh, wait, I'm being confused :-p |
| 18:28.54 | Arrowmaster | Adys: you got into the press room? |
| 18:28.57 | Dewin | And now that you mention it, I think d3 might have been playable |
| 18:29.19 | Jamash | Yeah, it was playable at BC 2008 |
| 18:29.20 | foxlit | go go countdown. |
| 18:29.24 | Adys | Arrowmaster: every year except last year |
| 18:29.29 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 18:29.37 | krka | crap! |
| 18:29.39 | Cairenn | I don't like that they're moving the summit to Sunday instead of Thursday |
| 18:29.44 | Arrowmaster | wasnt kd3 hiding out in there the entire time last year? |
| 18:29.47 | krka | my brute force on B was not good enough for large |
| 18:29.50 | krka | which i sort of knew :/ |
| 18:30.10 | Jamash | krka: ? |
| 18:30.15 | foxlit | yay, failues. |
| 18:30.17 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i dont know about last year but i wouldnt be surprised :P thats always where i found him |
| 18:30.20 | foxlit | ^r |
| 18:30.23 | krka | Jamash: GCJ |
| 18:30.38 | foxlit | krka: that's nothing, my solution for C just plain doesn't work |
| 18:30.45 | foxlit | * in some cases. |
| 18:31.16 | krka | i was working on a really shitty solution for B for like an hour |
| 18:31.20 | foxlit | Hate geometry, though |
| 18:31.59 | krka | wasn't much geometry thoguh |
| 18:32.00 | krka | *though |
| 18:32.07 | foxlit | I couldn't actually find a good model for that spread. |
| 18:32.29 | krka | i clusted the vendor groups by if they would collide or not |
| 18:32.51 | krka | then i simply went from left to right for each cluster and moved the vendors to the right |
| 18:33.01 | foxlit | left? |
| 18:33.05 | krka | then i tried modifying the adjustments as a post processing step by trying all combinations |
| 18:33.11 | krka | that worked for small, but not for large |
| 18:34.00 | foxlit | You know what Lua needs? Built-in prolog. |
| 18:34.16 | foxlit | *hate* backtracking CSP search. |
| 18:35.01 | zenzelezz | CSP? |
| 18:35.12 | foxlit | constraint satisfaction problems. |
| 18:35.15 | foxlit | Think Sudoku. |
| 18:35.29 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 18:36.32 | Jamash | so on the hot dog vendors, the challenge is finding the solution that minimizes the maximum distance any one vendor has to move? |
| 18:36.41 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 18:36.42 | Dewin | heh. I had a crazy idea of abusing a database to try to solve Sudoko puzzles. Didn't work out well. |
| 18:36.45 | Jamash | interesting |
| 18:36.53 | Jamash | I've never done a GCJ |
| 18:37.02 | krka | GCJ is bad for your sanity |
| 18:37.10 | Jamash | don't have any |
| 18:37.34 | Dewin | Then it reduces your sanity to 0 and Cthulu gets to devour delicious brains? |
| 18:37.52 | foxlit | I'm kind of amazed 300 people got their large submissions wrong |
| 18:38.16 | Jamash | my sanity is an imaginary transcendental number |
| 18:39.06 | foxlit | Hm, actually, B |
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| 18:44.31 | Adys | Maldivia: New torrent - Doctor Who s06e05 - The Rebel Flesh (21st May 2011) [PDTV (XviD)] |
| 18:44.44 | Maldivia | already |
| 18:44.50 | Maldivia | has it even finished on TV |
| 18:44.51 | Adys | 10 minutes ago |
| 18:44.59 | Jamash | tempt me not, vile fiend, with your torrents of bits |
| 18:45.18 | Maldivia | ahh, ended 7.30 |
| 18:46.43 | Maldivia | Adys: waiting another 10 mins or so, for the 720 version |
| 18:47.14 | Adys | ended 7.30? Oo |
| 18:47.17 | Adys | that was incredibly fast |
| 18:47.20 | Jamash | are they encoding the stream live? |
| 18:47.27 | Maldivia | it started 6.45 |
| 18:47.41 | Adys | Jamash: probably.. i dont see the whole thing being cut and encoded in 5 mins |
| 18:47.41 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: yes thats how the scene groups do it |
| 18:47.52 | Maldivia | Jamash: well, there are no commercials to cut out, so that simplifies it a lot |
| 18:47.58 | Jamash | true story |
| 18:47.59 | Adys | there arent? |
| 18:48.02 | Adys | sweet |
| 18:48.04 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 18:48.11 | Adys | well Maldivia |
| 18:48.32 | Adys | you mean apart from huge yellow bottom-banners during epic moments |
| 18:48.33 | Adys | :D |
| 18:48.44 | Arrowmaster | for US shows i think every time there is a commercial they start encoding the previous section and add it to the file |
| 18:48.57 | kd3 | gah. crazy. go from highs barely reaching 60 to highs in the 90s over 48 hours |
| 18:49.57 | Shirik | is that all? |
| 18:50.11 | Shirik | that's a typical summer day out where I am now |
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| 18:50.32 | kd3 | lows average in the 60s this time of year. it got down to the upper 30s a few nights |
| 18:50.48 | Maldivia | Arrowmaster: well, they can just do live encoding, since there'll be a key frame around commercials anyway, it's very easy to cut afterward |
| 18:51.16 | Fisker | garbage day |
| 18:51.20 | Shirik | News flash in Wikipedia |
| 18:51.24 | Fisker | sup Shirik |
| 18:51.42 | nevcairiel | for the xvid they can, but the 720p is probably not fast enough for realtime encoding |
| 18:51.43 | Maldivia | since the "cut to commercial" signal is an all black screen |
| 18:51.46 | nevcairiel | speaking of, where is that torrent |
| 18:51.52 | Arrowmaster | true, i guess they are doing fixed bitrate encoding anyway, since they are always around the same filesize and they cant be doing double pass |
| 18:52.00 | Shirik | Consensus is built on Wikipedia. Admin A implements that consensus. Admin B blocks admin A. Admin C undoes block by admin B. Admin B cries to arbcom because admin A is implementing consensus. |
| 18:52.14 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you can do realtime 720p |
| 18:52.30 | nevcairiel | you can do realtime anything if you tune the profile way down .p |
| 18:52.41 | Maldivia | or if you have enough power |
| 18:53.22 | Arrowmaster | i did realtime h264 encode of a dvd a few years ago on a high profile, with a new system doing it with 720p would work |
| 18:53.44 | Arrowmaster | that was on an i7 920 |
| 18:55.02 | zenzelezz | this reminds me of a decade ago when we were in awe at the person in our friend circle who could successfully burn CDs *while* playing a game |
| 18:55.13 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 18:55.45 | nevcairiel | they include the x264 settings used in the generated mkv, easy to test if thats fast enough for realtime :p |
| 18:56.03 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: they do? ive seen a lot that will zero them out |
| 18:56.14 | nevcairiel | i just checked last weeks, and its in there |
| 18:57.58 | Jamash | it's not like scene folks would balk at hardware x264 encoding |
| 18:58.31 | nevcairiel | i'm glad they don't, its lower quality |
| 19:02.43 | Xinhuan | Shirik, do you do a lot of editing on wikipedia? |
| 19:03.15 | kd3 | he's an admin |
| 19:03.33 | Xinhuan | aah |
| 19:03.57 | Xinhuan | well that doesn't quite answer my question :P |
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| 19:04.05 | Lunessa | You should read that as "he's certifiably insane" |
| 19:04.57 | Bluspacecow | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/906888-Do-you-think-Blizzard-is-lying?p=11555970&viewfull=1#post11555970 |
| 19:06.13 | Bluspacecow | Re: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2548785589 |
| 19:07.18 | Cide | so I ask this every year |
| 19:07.19 | Lunessa | Cross-server, Real ID instances can't help but be complex. |
| 19:07.24 | Cide | what's the airport for blizzcon besides LAX? |
| 19:07.46 | Cairenn | SNA |
| 19:07.50 | Cide | cheers |
| 19:07.50 | Lunessa | Ontario or SNA |
| 19:07.59 | Cide | so there are three? |
| 19:08.06 | Lunessa | Ontario is still a long commute. |
| 19:08.09 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 19:08.19 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was john wane? or is that sna |
| 19:08.21 | Cairenn | is Ontario international? I thought it was local |
| 19:08.28 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: that's SNA |
| 19:08.31 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 19:08.43 | Lunessa | Ontairo is the over-flow airport so it sometimes has INTL filghts. |
| 19:08.59 | Cairenn | SNA is the closest INTL to the convention center |
| 19:09.07 | Cide | oh nice |
| 19:09.11 | Cide | flights are pretty cheap atm |
| 19:09.35 | zenzelezz | Ontario? I assume that's not the town? |
| 19:09.57 | zenzelezz | or province, whatever |
| 19:10.25 | Cide | how long do you guys usually stay? |
| 19:10.35 | Cide | arrival/depart dates? |
| 19:10.42 | Lunessa | I bracket 2 days before, 1-2 days after. |
| 19:10.57 | Xinhuan | most major INTL airlines don't really fly there though |
| 19:11.00 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 19:11.00 | Cairenn | Cide: I normally get in on Wed, leave on Mon |
| 19:11.24 | kd3 | it was wed->sun for me last year. doing that again this year |
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| 19:11.44 | Lunessa | Bunch of us go to Disney the day after. |
| 19:11.48 | Fisker | why are you guys even discussing plans for Blizzcon? |
| 19:11.52 | Fisker | THE WORLD IS GOING TO END TONIGHT |
| 19:11.54 | Fisker | DEAL WITH IT |
| 19:11.54 | Xinhuan | i did wed-sun too |
| 19:11.59 | nevcairiel | wasnt that last night |
| 19:12.08 | Xinhuan | yeah and that was yesterday |
| 19:12.11 | Xinhuan | its already 3am here |
| 19:12.11 | Fisker | no |
| 19:12.14 | Fisker | duh |
| 19:12.15 | airtonix | Fisker: theres an app for that |
| 19:12.15 | Fisker | timezones |
| 19:12.18 | Bluspacecow | meh |
| 19:12.24 | Bluspacecow | NZ isn't ended fiskery fisker |
| 19:12.29 | nevcairiel | rather have timetravel then timezones |
| 19:12.29 | Bluspacecow | we will survive ! |
| 19:12.32 | Xinhuan | yeah rapture is over according to my timezone, since that crazy guy said it occurs per time zone |
| 19:12.36 | nevcairiel | speaking of, give 720p already |
| 19:12.41 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: it's not supposed to end till oct 21 |
| 19:14.18 | Fisker | i just hope i can manage to finish doctor who before the world ends :( |
| 19:14.24 | airtonix | Xinhuan: crazy guy said the rapture is a convienent "couple of hours operation" ? |
| 19:14.32 | Bluspacecow | oh sheeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 19:14.32 | airtonix | sounds like a scam |
| 19:14.35 | Bluspacecow | DR Who |
| 19:15.00 | Lunessa | The only Raptyure I want to experience is sexy tiemz. |
| 19:15.11 | airtonix | i'll enrapture you |
| 19:15.13 | nevcairiel | there it is! 720p! |
| 19:15.16 | Arrowmaster | ok done downloading, but i have to step away for a few before i can watch it |
| 19:15.22 | Lunessa | You has wrong plumbing. |
| 19:15.31 | Jamash | Due to overwhelming demand, the Rapture is experiencing technical issues. We thank you for your patience as our staff takes every necessary measure to resolve these as quickly as possible. |
| 19:15.33 | airtonix | yeah there is that |
| 19:15.54 | Shirik | Xinhuan: Honestly, I don't make that many content edits |
| 19:15.57 | zenzelezz | clearly he was just using the wrong calendar; it's 2011 of the Ethiopian calendar |
| 19:16.01 | Shirik | that which I have made is typically related to software process |
| 19:16.17 | kd3 | zomg, an admin without eleventy billion mainspace edits? recall! |
| 19:16.19 | Xinhuan | how did you actually become an admin? |
| 19:16.33 | Xinhuan | withotu being active |
| 19:16.36 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:16.50 | foxlit | Meh, double episode. |
| 19:16.51 | Thunder_Child | he has kneepads |
| 19:16.51 | airtonix | side effect of the rapture |
| 19:16.52 | Jamash | he's actually a bot |
| 19:16.59 | foxlit | So not watching that until the second one publishes. |
| 19:17.01 | Xinhuan | or is the edit part only after you became one |
| 19:17.05 | |Jelly| | Just so everyone knows, I'm going to rape Lunessa at Blizzcon. Brolove 4tw. |
| 19:17.20 | airtonix | screenshots or it didn't happen |
| 19:17.25 | Fisker | u jelly |Jelly| ? |
| 19:17.28 | Lunessa | ... It's not rape if it's consensual. |
| 19:17.35 | Xinhuan | the technical term is photos, airtonix |
| 19:17.36 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: the 720? |
| 19:17.38 | airtonix | we can arrange something |
| 19:17.45 | Fisker | ItIt's not consensual if it's rape Lunessa |
| 19:17.49 | |Jelly| | No Fisker, damnit! |
| 19:17.52 | Shirik | Xinhuan: I used to be a lot more active than I am now |
| 19:17.58 | Fisker | nah Xinhuan |
| 19:18.00 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: ya just appeard on my tracker |
| 19:18.05 | Fisker | grab your console and write jpeg in it |
| 19:18.07 | Shirik | however |
| 19:18.11 | Fisker | no need for cameras |
| 19:18.16 | nevcairiel | I'm not watching the xvid on my big tv, that would look horrible :) |
| 19:18.17 | Shirik | kd3, I just wrote up my first ever view on an arbcom case request |
| 19:18.19 | airtonix | put yo hands up in tha aiiirr |
| 19:18.32 | Fisker | hehe |
| 19:18.34 | kd3 | eesh. that's a scary hornet's nest |
| 19:18.34 | Fisker | "hands" |
| 19:18.36 | Fisker | "air" |
| 19:18.37 | Fisker | hoho |
| 19:18.38 | airtonix | screenshots fo life |
| 19:18.38 | Shirik | indeed |
| 19:18.48 | Shirik | though basically my view was "wtf is this doing at arbcom, seriously" |
| 19:18.56 | Xinhuan | ok, without me having to read a long page, what is an arbcom? |
| 19:19.00 | Cide | how long is the commute from SNA, then? |
| 19:19.07 | Shirik | imagine the supreme court of wikipedia |
| 19:19.16 | Shirik | that's the easiest way to describe it |
| 19:19.22 | kd3 | yah |
| 19:19.40 | Xinhuan | rolls eyes |
| 19:19.45 | Fisker | Shirik you mean the galatic federation? |
| 19:20.11 | Fisker | or maybe the council of tirisfal? |
| 19:20.20 | Shirik | The arbitration process within the Wikipedia community exists to impose binding solutions to Wikipedia disputes that neither communal discussion, administrators, bureaucrats, nor mediation have been able to resolve. Arbitration matters are handled by a panel of experienced users, the Arbitration Committee. As well as hearing disputes, the Committee also handles issues where exceptional factors such as privacy may |
| 19:20.54 | Xinhuan | so, are all admins on the arbcom? |
| 19:21.00 | zenzelezz | and I thought everyone just turned to James' advice |
| 19:21.02 | kd3 | no |
| 19:21.11 | Fisker | are all arbcoms on the admins? |
| 19:21.11 | kd3 | there's about 12 people on arbcom, there's... 1600 admins? |
| 19:21.25 | Fisker | were they elected by the people? |
| 19:22.01 | Xinhuan | i'll imagine arbcom doesn't happen often then |
| 19:22.06 | Xinhuan | cases that is |
| 19:22.34 | Shirik | You don't have to be an admin to be on arbcom, but they are all admins (and oversighters, and checkusers) |
| 19:22.49 | Shirik | and I seriously doubt you'll get on arbcom without being an admin |
| 19:23.23 | Fisker | why not? |
| 19:23.29 | Fisker | You have to be descendants of hercules? |
| 19:23.39 | kd3 | didn't someone get made a functionary without being a sysop? |
| 19:23.54 | kd3 | oversight? checkuser? something like that |
| 19:24.07 | Xinhuan | i actually laughed out loud on that one |
| 19:24.50 | Fisker | The honor of being on the arbcom devalues if you had to be descendants of jimmy wales |
| 19:26.08 | Fisker | wait |
| 19:26.13 | Fisker | tonights doctor who is a 2-parter? |
| 19:26.14 | Fisker | jerks :( |
| 19:26.16 | Cide | arr |
| 19:27.10 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 19:27.20 | airtonix | fisker |
| 19:27.30 | Fisker | yes airtonix |
| 19:27.35 | Bluspacecow | rebel flesh ? |
| 19:27.36 | airtonix | i'm using cm7 |
| 19:27.37 | Bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 19:27.40 | Bluspacecow | BBL |
| 19:27.46 | Cide | how long is the trip from SNA to blizzcon? |
| 19:28.03 | Bluspacecow | john wayne ? |
| 19:28.13 | Xinhuan | under an hour |
| 19:28.51 | Lunessa | Like, 15 mins |
| 19:29.05 | Xinhuan | its only like 10km away i think |
| 19:29.15 | Bluspacecow | http://goo.gl/maps/oTCu |
| 19:29.16 | Fisker | i'm pressing F5 Xinhuan |
| 19:29.19 | Xinhuan | so its really just about the waiting time |
| 19:29.25 | Xinhuan | to get a transport |
| 19:29.30 | Lunessa | And traffic |
| 19:29.45 | Bluspacecow | roughly 14-15 miles |
| 19:29.49 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm prodding you |
| 19:29.52 | Bluspacecow | plus traffic of course |
| 19:30.09 | *** join/#wowuidev stew-a (~Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
| 19:30.33 | Fisker | sweet |
| 19:30.45 | Fisker | Google is blocking their movie rental service from rooted devices |
| 19:30.49 | Cide | ah, nice |
| 19:30.58 | Fisker | GG DRM tards |
| 19:31.12 | Xinhuan | well, from LAX, its still only about an hour |
| 19:31.30 | Lunessa | Yeah, SuperShuttle or your Hotel will have a van or something. |
| 19:32.07 | Lunessa | Or, if you're BRAVE, can read a map, and don't mind waiting FOREVER, you can take the train. |
| 19:32.18 | kd3 | super shuttles are cheap and also potentially scary depending on the driver |
| 19:32.33 | Lunessa | Not as scary as the train. |
| 19:32.43 | Xinhuan | i'm sure supershuttle is actually faster |
| 19:32.59 | Arrowmaster | i dont particularly like getting on trains with luggage |
| 19:33.07 | Arrowmaster | i had to do that in boston |
| 19:33.11 | Lunessa | The train has no direct path, and it's a lot of stops from LAX to Anaheim. |
| 19:34.29 | Arrowmaster | ok time to watch doctor who |
| 19:34.36 | Cide | doesn't it follow the rail? >:) |
| 19:34.43 | Xinhuan | time to watch yogscast :P |
| 19:36.49 | Shirik | sorry Xinhuan if you said anything I crashed so |
| 19:37.36 | Xinhuan | its ok, i didn't say anything :P |
| 19:37.56 | Xinhuan | apart from asking if arbcom cases occur often |
| 19:38.44 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:38.45 | Fisker | online |
| 19:39.15 | Shirik | no |
| 19:40.04 | Shirik | haha |
| 19:40.08 | Shirik | interesting discovery on wikipedia |
| 19:40.17 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:40.18 | Fisker | offline |
| 19:40.19 | Shirik | "from a random page, click the first link that is not in parentheses, if you continue to do so, you will arrive at the Philosophy article. Being naturally curious, I decided to try it. Surprisingly, my first 3 tries actually worked (assuming I didn't mis-click something, link trails below.)" |
| 19:40.39 | Xinhuan | ok trying. |
| 19:40.44 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 19:40.51 | Fisker | just implicating you and the network in crimes |
| 19:40.55 | Fisker | Ryan Giggs |
| 19:41.30 | Shirik | so they kinda boiled it down to the fact that terms are usually defined in more general terms |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | and the only way NOT to get to Philosophy is to hit a page with no links or a loop |
| 19:41.52 | airtonix | Fisker: the dream is collapsing |
| 19:41.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Gorbal (~chatzilla@p57A826C0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:41.54 | Shirik | therefore |
| 19:41.56 | Shirik | " it certainly also holds for Reason and Rationality (which do form a loop with philosophy). We can probably deduce that philosophy, reason, and rationality are the foundation of our worldview..." |
| 19:42.09 | Xinhuan | Equatorial_College_School -> Ibanda District -> Districts of Uganda -> Uganda -> Landlocked country -> Country -> Geography -> Earth |
| 19:42.55 | Xinhuan | -> Planet ->Orbit -> Physics -> Natural Science -> Science -> Knowledge -> Fact -> Information |
| 19:42.57 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 19:43.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Dotted (~Dotted@95.209.208.82.bredband.oister.dk) |
| 19:43.02 | Fisker | unless the world is ending |
| 19:43.21 | Shirik | sorry Xinhuan |
| 19:43.22 | Shirik | I kept going |
| 19:43.26 | Shirik | I got to philosophy |
| 19:43.37 | Xinhuan | -> Sequence -> Mathemathics -> quantity -> Property -> Modern philosophy -> Philosophy |
| 19:43.39 | Xinhuan | omg it works |
| 19:43.50 | Shirik | it did take aw hile though |
| 19:44.04 | Xinhuan | ok which genius figured this out? |
| 19:44.12 | airtonix | money -> hate -> frustration -> body functions -> shit |
| 19:44.37 | Shirik | It was posted here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Mathematics#statistics.2Fprobability_of_getting_to_an_article_via_patterns.3F |
| 19:46.05 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 19:49.39 | Xinhuan | i didn't about reference desks until now :P |
| 19:50.35 | Shirik | Ok |
| 19:50.42 | Shirik | I tried an article I wrote that I figured could not possibly have a link |
| 19:50.42 | Xinhuan | didn't know* |
| 19:50.47 | Shirik | aspect weaver -> metaprogramming -> computer program -> instruction (computer science) -> computer architecture -> computer science -> information .................. |
| 19:50.51 | Shirik | and then we're on the same path |
| 19:53.41 | Cide | ha |
| 19:53.44 | Cide | I found a loop |
| 19:54.07 | Cide | oops, no |
| 19:54.17 | Cide | worked 2/2 for me |
| 19:54.37 | Xinhuan | i suppose someone could actually parse all the articles on the wiki and see what % ends up on philosophy |
| 19:55.00 | Cide | both ended up at sequence before philosophy though |
| 19:55.09 | Gorbal | hi, has someone the link to the official ui kit for 4.1? |
| 19:55.25 | Xinhuan | it would just be a O(N) task :P |
| 19:56.11 | kd3 | gorbal; there is no official ui toolkit any more. you can extract the files yourself from the client |
| 19:56.12 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 19:56.12 | purl | i guess framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 19:59.18 | Gorbal | tnx kd3, will try this using mpq editor |
| 19:59.54 | kd3 | don't need to use an mpq editor... edit your shortcut that you use to start wow |
| 20:00.08 | kd3 | where it says "/path/to/WoW.exe" make it "/path/to/WoW.exe -console" |
| 20:00.14 | kd3 | then hit ` (tilde) and type either of those commands |
| 20:00.47 | Adys | Maldivia: that was kinda boring |
| 20:00.59 | Maldivia | Adys: haven't watched it yet |
| 20:01.03 | Adys | oh |
| 20:01.41 | Maldivia | Adys: was waiting for the 720 release, and it was a bit slow to come out, so was trying to piece together a new computer in the meantime |
| 20:01.54 | Adys | the things we do when we're bored |
| 20:02.06 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 20:03.24 | Xinhuan | kd3, i believe the -console has to be outside the "" |
| 20:03.38 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:03.40 | Xinhuan | or windows will treat it as part of the file name |
| 20:04.16 | Gorbal | doesn't work, wow starts normal to the login screen, i opend command window als typed "wow.exe -console" |
| 20:04.46 | Xinhuan | yeah make sure its "blah\blah\wow.exe" -console |
| 20:04.52 | Xinhuan | where the -console is outside the "" |
| 20:06.26 | Gorbal | hmm, did this, again login screen |
| 20:06.36 | kd3 | that's fine. try hitting tilde (`) |
| 20:06.39 | kd3 | it's above the tab key |
| 20:06.49 | Maldivia | kd3: tilde is ~ :) |
| 20:06.52 | Adys | i hate games that make you hit that key |
| 20:06.55 | Adys | i replaced it by @ here |
| 20:06.57 | Shirik | but apple says I don't need a ` |
| 20:06.58 | kd3 | er, backtick |
| 20:07.06 | Adys | @~£` |
| 20:07.17 | Adys | hm i really should change that L3 |
| 20:07.27 | Shirik | @~#` |
| 20:07.28 | Maldivia | kd3: grave :) |
| 20:07.47 | Adys | backtick actually |
| 20:07.53 | Adys | grave is only when it's a dead key |
| 20:08.06 | Adys | technically its the same but yeah |
| 20:08.08 | Gorbal | ok, fine, found `, what command than? |
| 20:08.11 | Adys | tomato tomato |
| 20:10.15 | kd3 | "exportinterfacefiles code" without the quotes. you can type "exp" and hit tab and it should tab-complete to the full command |
| 20:10.42 | Adys | doesnt /console exportinterfacefiles code ingame do the same? |
| 20:10.47 | kd3 | no |
| 20:10.50 | kd3 | it's gotta be in the gluexml |
| 20:10.51 | Maldivia | no, canb only export at login |
| 20:10.57 | Adys | that kinda fails |
| 20:11.32 | Gorbal | do i use the accountname or the password field? |
| 20:11.44 | Adys | someone didnt get the console open |
| 20:11.44 | kd3 | neither. you should be getting a gray box at the top of the screen |
| 20:12.04 | kd3 | sec, posting a screenshot |
| 20:12.38 | Maldivia | if you don't have a English keyboard layout, it can be a bit tricky to find the right key - if using windows, run in windowed mode and change the layout to english, then you can hit the key about tab for the console to appear |
| 20:12.49 | Maldivia | above tab* |
| 20:14.17 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/bf72646c85fedcbc7baba459acf559f6.jpg |
| 20:14.23 | kd3 | this is what it should look like |
| 20:15.07 | Gorbal | hmm, it seams i don't find the right key, i will try to switch to english gui |
| 20:15.12 | Shirik | make sure it says wow - Wine desktop at the top |
| 20:15.18 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:15.19 | Shirik | otherwise it won't work |
| 20:15.41 | Adys | doublecheck the resolution matches the screenshot too |
| 20:15.50 | Maldivia | Gorbal: what language does your keyboard use? |
| 20:15.56 | Gorbal | hm, i don't usw wine, i use windows... |
| 20:16.02 | Adys | its a joke |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik | ignore me I was kidding |
| 20:16.02 | Gorbal | de |
| 20:16.05 | kd3 | they're just trolling, ignore them |
| 20:16.28 | Maldivia | Gorbal: on the windows task bar, near the icons and clock, do you see a small button with "DE" on it ? |
| 20:16.38 | Gorbal | yes |
| 20:16.54 | Maldivia | ok, start wow in windowed mode, then click that button and select english |
| 20:17.11 | Maldivia | then you should be able to use the keyboard button above the tab key, to bring forth the console |
| 20:17.49 | Shirik | http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/CTB |
| 20:19.22 | Xinhuan | World_of_Warcraft has been viewed 110876 times in 201105. This article ranked 534 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. |
| 20:19.24 | Xinhuan | orly? |
| 20:19.31 | Xinhuan | 534th? |
| 20:20.53 | Adys | Shirik: whats with the spike? |
| 20:20.53 | Xinhuan | Barack_Obama has been viewed 800979 times in 201105. This article ranked 133 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. |
| 20:20.58 | Xinhuan | well ok, he's more popular. |
| 20:21.09 | Shirik | There's some issue going on in England |
| 20:21.18 | Shirik | about some super-injunction on this guy who is only known as CTB |
| 20:21.33 | Shirik | http://www.metro.co.uk/news/863975-ctb-footballer-facing-backlash-as-lawyers-claim-he-isnt-suing-twitter |
| 20:22.07 | Xinhuan | btw, how to see what's the number #1 article? |
| 20:22.22 | Adys | you gotta guess it |
| 20:22.30 | Adys | Porn has been viewed 78173 times in 201105. |
| 20:22.37 | Adys | I have to disagree |
| 20:22.49 | Shirik | probably the #1 article each day is the featured article |
| 20:22.59 | Xinhuan | well for the month |
| 20:22.59 | Adys | i doubt it |
| 20:23.07 | Adys | nobody visits the wikipedia homepage |
| 20:23.15 | Shirik | you'd be surprised |
| 20:23.27 | Adys | by the amount of wikipedians who do visit the homepage? no |
| 20:23.38 | Adys | the amount of non-wikipedians who do? i doubt it :P |
| 20:23.42 | Shirik | http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/1906_French_Grand_Prix |
| 20:23.45 | Shirik | yesterday's |
| 20:23.58 | Adys | thats 22k |
| 20:24.16 | Shirik | and it beats porn |
| 20:24.35 | Adys | i dont see how the 1906 french grand prix beats porn |
| 20:24.40 | Adys | but maybe im just not into that kind of stuff |
| 20:24.54 | Xinhuan | well, people looking for porn wouldn't be looking for it on a wiki |
| 20:25.09 | Adys | wikipedia has been viewed 877886 times in 201105. This article ranked 31 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. |
| 20:25.16 | Adys | thats 45k monthly |
| 20:25.26 | Xinhuan | so whats the #1 article |
| 20:25.30 | Xinhuan | for 201105 |
| 20:25.33 | Adys | hold on im trying to guess |
| 20:25.58 | Shirik | http://stats.grok.se/en/top |
| 20:26.09 | Adys | Template:Citation_needed has been viewed 31250 times in 201105. |
| 20:26.10 | Adys | d'aww |
| 20:26.26 | Shirik | I suspect #1 is something like google |
| 20:26.34 | Shirik | so ignore that |
| 20:26.38 | Adys | http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/Special:Export/SynchronizationStartTime: |
| 20:26.48 | Xinhuan | try Rapture |
| 20:26.52 | Adys | serious overflowing |
| 20:27.35 | Xinhuan | or End of World or something |
| 20:28.06 | nevcairiel | http://stats.grok.se/en/201105/Rapture |
| 20:28.10 | nevcairiel | the graph looks funny |
| 20:28.14 | Adys | 404_error has been viewed 19831852 times in 201012. This article ranked 6 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. |
| 20:28.16 | Adys | how? |
| 20:28.27 | Adys | how do you get so many 404s on a site like wikipedia? |
| 20:28.43 | Shirik | that's not a 404 error |
| 20:28.48 | Shirik | that would be people looking up 404 error |
| 20:28.55 | Adys | you mind if i doubt that? |
| 20:28.56 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 20:29.17 | Shirik | OK it may be people being redirected to the page on 404 error |
| 20:29.19 | Adys | theres a serious issue going on |
| 20:29.32 | Xinhuan | why are you looking at last year's stats |
| 20:29.34 | Shirik | but there is no 404 on wikipedia, it causes a rewrite to search |
| 20:29.44 | Adys | yeah i know |
| 20:29.51 | Adys | how does this page get so many visits? |
| 20:30.03 | Shirik | http://www.rexswain.com/cgi-bin/httpview.cgi |
| 20:30.08 | Shirik | HTTP/1.0·301·Moved·Permanently(CR)(LF) |
| 20:30.11 | Adys | even an actual siteroot 404 gives a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_404 |
| 20:30.15 | Adys | not 404_error |
| 20:30.20 | Ackis | can I hate you Shirik? |
| 20:30.21 | Shirik | oops I was wrong |
| 20:30.24 | Shirik | HTTP/1.0·404·Not·Found(CR)(LF) |
| 20:30.29 | Xinhuan | google also gives the link to HTTP_404 |
| 20:30.32 | Xinhuan | as top hit |
| 20:30.41 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:30.42 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:30.43 | Shirik | ok so I bet I know what it is |
| 20:31.01 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/ijwalefjwa |
| 20:31.03 | nevcairiel | maybe the tool also follows the redirect? :D |
| 20:31.07 | Adys | yes |
| 20:31.10 | Shirik | instead of the correct address |
| 20:31.10 | Adys | thats not 404_error |
| 20:31.14 | Adys | thats HTTP_404 |
| 20:31.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:31.18 | Shirik | well finethen |
| 20:32.00 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 20:32.04 | Fisker | what should a free man do? |
| 20:32.10 | Shirik | become a non-free man |
| 20:33.55 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 20:33.56 | Xinhuan | http://stats.grok.se/en/top |
| 20:34.34 | Xinhuan | i'm surprised UDP is up there |
| 20:34.43 | Xinhuan | at #13 |
| 20:35.13 | Adys | a lot of these have to be some referee |
| 20:35.32 | Adys | like google linking them for an entire week after UDP Celebration Day |
| 20:35.49 | Xinhuan | #64 sex |
| 20:35.50 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 20:36.01 | Adys | and come on |
| 20:36.02 | Adys | 5Special:Export/Robert L. Bradley, Jr39275277 |
| 20:36.20 | Adys | and |
| 20:36.24 | Adys | whats with that? http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/Ball-jointed_doll |
| 20:37.14 | Adys | http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/Communist_Russia or that? |
| 20:40.42 | Xinhuan | its interesting |
| 20:40.49 | Xinhuan | that "initial" and "Initial" has 2 separate entries |
| 20:40.53 | Xinhuan | at 15 and 17 |
| 20:41.02 | Adys | Main_Page and Main_Page/ too |
| 20:41.11 | Adys | theres something going on in these stats |
| 20:41.19 | Shirik | they aren't perfect |
| 20:41.28 | Shirik | they can't be perfect |
| 20:41.35 | Xinhuan | wonder how they are generated |
| 20:41.43 | Adys | 398The Simpsons |
| 20:41.44 | Adys | 399Desperate Housewives |
| 20:41.47 | Adys | 400Scrubs (TV series) |
| 20:41.51 | Fisker | hello |
| 20:41.52 | Adys | Seriously? |
| 20:41.57 | Fisker | HELLO |
| 20:42.02 | Shirik | http://stats.grok.se/about |
| 20:42.11 | Adys | 163List of pornographic actresses by decade |
| 20:42.22 | Adys | cant breath |
| 20:42.25 | Adys | +e |
| 20:42.34 | Alram | are you ok adys |
| 20:42.43 | Alram | shouldnt have eaten that feta cheese |
| 20:43.21 | Adys | http://stats.grok.se/en/201012/File:Hardy_boys_cover_09.jpg |
| 20:43.29 | Adys | Alram: you realize I'm not in greece anymore |
| 20:43.34 | Alram | yes |
| 20:43.49 | Adys | and to be completely honest ive eaten more feta while i was in france than in greece |
| 20:43.58 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
| 20:44.00 | Fisker | hardy boys |
| 20:44.02 | Alram | yes |
| 20:44.27 | Fisker | giggles |
| 20:44.31 | Adys | Shirik: really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2010 |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | "The following is a list of notable deaths in 2010. " |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | I think that's a lie |
| 20:46.07 | Alram | fisker died in 2010 |
| 20:46.09 | Fisker | yeah i'm not on that list |
| 20:46.11 | Fisker | i am? |
| 20:46.22 | Alram | it was quite notable |
| 20:46.28 | Alram | since hes still annoying us to this day |
| 20:46.47 | Adys | José dos Santos Garcia, 97, Portuguese-born Mozambican Roman Catholic prelate, Bishop of Porto Amélia (1957â1975) |
| 20:46.56 | Adys | not to belittle this guy's life but talk about notable |
| 20:47.43 | Fisker | wtf |
| 20:47.48 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tove_Ma%C3%ABs |
| 20:47.53 | Fisker | one that died in december 2010 |
| 20:48.00 | Fisker | Riget (1994) TV mini-series .... Mrs. Zakariasen ... aka The Kingdom |
| 20:48.10 | Fisker | Riget is a hospital here you fucking numbskulls |
| 20:48.23 | Fisker | y u google translate names? |
| 20:48.36 | Fisker | rages |
| 20:49.04 | Maldivia | ehh, because the English name for the show Riget was The Kingdom |
| 20:49.15 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:49.17 | Fisker | y u google translate names? |
| 20:49.20 | Fisker | rages |
| 20:49.58 | Maldivia | just like the US adaption of the show was called Kingdom Hospital |
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| 20:50.24 | Fisker | see thats more like it |
| 20:50.30 | Fisker | however the kingdom = rage |
| 20:53.28 | Fisker | TC-Laptop |
| 20:53.29 | Fisker | hello |
| 20:53.31 | Fisker | with an o |
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| 21:03.17 | Maldivia | Adys: agree... meeeh |
| 21:03.25 | Adys | heh |
| 21:03.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Dotted^ (~Dotted@79.138.170.33.bredband.oister.dk) |
| 21:03.55 | Adys | Maldivia: writer: Matthew Graham |
| 21:04.05 | Adys | Maldivia: his only other work: Fear Her |
| 21:04.16 | Adys | some writers just don't cut it... |
| 21:04.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Sapu94 (~Sapu94@24-205-239-250.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:04.58 | Adys | .. he wrote The Last Train |
| 21:05.05 | Adys | man this guy is boring |
| 21:05.10 | Gorbal | just let you know: finally got my 4.2<->4.1 diff, problem was that wow switched keyboard layout back to non-us layout in the background...thanks for help |
| 21:05.18 | Maldivia | Adys: ok, had to look up fear her... I had luckily and gladly forgotten all about that episode |
| 21:05.31 | Adys | yep |
| 21:05.48 | Adys | i only remember it because i skipped it during a rewatch recently |
| 21:05.49 | kd3 | no prob |
| 21:05.55 | Maldivia | Gorbal: shift-alt is the default shortcut in windows to switch between installed keyboard languages |
| 21:05.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 21:06.10 | Xinhuan | if all you want is the diff, there are already websites with the diff |
| 21:06.15 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 21:06.18 | kd3 | or people who send out emails |
| 21:06.19 | Xinhuan | to save you the extraction |
| 21:06.29 | Gorbal | want my own diff....hehe |
| 21:06.41 | Adys | why, does it smell better? |
| 21:06.50 | Gorbal | yes |
| 21:07.03 | Xinhuan | you can follow tekkub's github on the wow ui source |
| 21:07.06 | Xinhuan | more convenient :) |
| 21:07.16 | Adys | i thought he didnt update that anymore |
| 21:07.26 | Xinhuan | he does a diff every ptr patch |
| 21:07.30 | Maldivia | ohh btw, what's the countdown on the world ending ? |
| 21:07.41 | kd3 | less than an hour here on the east coast |
| 21:07.42 | Xinhuan | Maldivia, it was over 11 hours ago for me :P |
| 21:07.52 | Maldivia | yeah, it was supposed to be noon, right? |
| 21:07.59 | Xinhuan | i thought its 6pm |
| 21:08.00 | kd3 | 1800 local time |
| 21:08.09 | Maldivia | ohh, 6pm |
| 21:08.16 | Xinhuan | (its 5am here, hence 11 hours ago) |
| 21:08.30 | Adys | was over 4 hours ago here |
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| 21:08.43 | Maldivia | well, if the world had ended at 6pm, I would have missed doctor who.... I might just have let it end... |
| 21:09.08 | Adys | that was a seriously disappointing ep |
| 21:09.16 | Adys | "Ohh, a two-parter! that's gonna be sweet!" |
| 21:09.33 | Maldivia | also, isn't this 2-parter, the spring-season finale? |
| 21:09.38 | Adys | no |
| 21:09.42 | Adys | it's the next 2-parter |
| 21:09.44 | Adys | thank god |
| 21:09.46 | Maldivia | ´pfew |
| 21:09.49 | Adys | moffat writes that one |
| 21:10.22 | Maldivia | well, considering it's already shot etc, hope he finished it a while ago :P |
| 21:10.52 | Adys | Maldivia: after rewatching s1-4 and referencing the writers... my god moffat is awesome |
| 21:11.14 | Adys | empty child/doctor dances, girl in the fireplace, blink, silence in the library and forest of the dead |
| 21:11.15 | Maldivia | he has some of the really strong episodes, yeah |
| 21:11.49 | Adys | my "least favourite" used to be the girl in the fireplace, but after rewatching it, "what was i thinking this is awesome" |
| 21:16.15 | Maldivia | hmm... so according to wiki, there are 775 DW episodes... |
| 21:16.27 | Maldivia | I think someone miscounted |
| 21:16.54 | Maldivia | or |
| 21:17.43 | Jamash | quick question: which patch was the debuff limit changed from 16 to "lots"? |
| 21:18.10 | Jamash | also yes Moffat is freakin' incredible |
| 21:19.08 | Maldivia | Jamash: wasn't that with release of TBC? |
| 21:19.22 | Maldivia | it was 1.7 that saw the increase from 8 to 16 |
| 21:19.23 | kd3 | 2.0 iirc |
| 21:19.26 | Jamash | hmm, this page says it went from 16 to 40 at TBC |
| 21:19.48 | Jamash | was it ever increased past 40? |
| 21:21.19 | Jamash | I vaguely recall an announcement that it was upped to "lots and lots" and should no longer be of any concern |
| 21:23.20 | Maldivia | Jamash: according to a wowinsider article, daelo mentioned december 2008 that it would be removed next patch, next patch was 3.0.8 |
| 21:23.40 | Jamash | keen |
| 21:23.51 | Fisker | hey you kd3 |
| 21:24.02 | kd3 | ya? |
| 21:25.10 | Fisker | just heying you |
| 21:25.15 | Fisker | because you're such a handsome person |
| 21:25.23 | kd3 | rehi |
| 21:26.30 | Maldivia | Jamash: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/11824/debuff-cap-removed |
| 21:26.47 | Arrowmaster | 16 was such a fucking nightmare, im so glade that i didnt raid when it was still 8 |
| 21:26.56 | Maldivia | 8 was a nightmare! |
| 21:27.13 | Gorbal | ...still reading 4.2 code: event EJ_LOOT_DATA_RECIEVED lol |
| 21:27.25 | Arrowmaster | the rogues conspired against me to make my life as a warlock hell |
| 21:27.30 | Xinhuan | 8 was an exercise in yelling NO RENDS |
| 21:27.33 | Maldivia | every debuff class was banished from raiding, in case they pushed sunder off :P |
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| 21:27.46 | kd3 | yeah, pretty much |
| 21:27.48 | kd3 | winces |
| 21:28.02 | Maldivia | Gorbal: why lol ? |
| 21:28.04 | Arrowmaster | they would all vanish then garrote and (wtf is the name of the bleed finisher?) |
| 21:28.10 | Gorbal | typo? |
| 21:28.12 | Arrowmaster | in the middle of boss fights just to fuck with me |
| 21:28.18 | Maldivia | Gorbal: Encounter Journal |
| 21:28.21 | kd3 | no, not a typo. that's for the encounter journal |
| 21:28.36 | Maldivia | yeah ok, recieved |
| 21:28.40 | Gorbal | recieved <-> received |
| 21:28.41 | Maldivia | I do that all the time as well |
| 21:28.56 | kd3 | wouldn't be the first time blizz has typoed events/api calls |
| 21:29.12 | Xinhuan | its called rupture |
| 21:29.23 | Xinhuan | its part of the rogue dps cycle |
| 21:29.29 | Maldivia | google recieved, and you get 19 mill results (ofcourse, you get 675 mill with received) |
| 21:29.49 | Gorbal | hehe |
| 21:30.03 | Maldivia | but it just shows how often that word is misspelled |
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| 21:30.46 | Xinhuan | that's another commonly misspelled word |
| 21:32.22 | Maldivia | restaurant |
| 21:33.08 | Arrowmaster | this is why everything i use has a spellcheck |
| 21:33.13 | Arrowmaster | including my terminal shell |
| 21:33.18 | Maldivia | :) |
| 21:33.29 | Fisker | i once Arrowmastered a Maldivia |
| 21:33.46 | Maldivia | and I still have fond memories of it |
| 21:34.12 | Jamash | yeah I'm glad I didn't raid much in vanilla |
| 21:34.34 | Xinhuan | you missed out on 40-man raiding |
| 21:34.38 | Xinhuan | it was epic then |
| 21:34.42 | Xinhuan | truly epic |
| 21:34.44 | Jamash | ony and ZG was as far as I got |
| 21:34.52 | Arrowmaster | ZG was hell |
| 21:34.54 | Arrowmaster | fucking hell |
| 21:34.59 | Jamash | SNAKES |
| 21:35.04 | Jamash | exploding bats! |
| 21:35.08 | Xinhuan | zg was pretty good actually, while it lasted |
| 21:35.27 | Arrowmaster | i was stuck with a fail guild for the majority of it |
| 21:35.32 | Jamash | zg was a good time to be a skinner |
| 21:35.36 | nevcairiel | zg was one of those places that was totally over-farmed |
| 21:35.43 | nevcairiel | you went there way too much |
| 21:35.48 | nevcairiel | like karazhan |
| 21:35.52 | Jamash | and yet I never got a tiger |
| 21:35.59 | Xinhuan | mounts was the reason |
| 21:36.07 | Xinhuan | well, and dual trinkets |
| 21:36.22 | Arrowmaster | when my guild was finally kicked out of our guild alliance and me and about 3 other people were invited to the main guild in the alliance we convinced them to start doing zg |
| 21:36.23 | Maldivia | dual trinket pom pyro, go! |
| 21:36.53 | Jamash | before they pulled zg20 my pet could solo mandokir |
| 21:37.07 | Arrowmaster | with 15 people that had never done zg we did as much of the instance as the guild i had been running it for months had done |
| 21:37.09 | Fisker | no Maldivia |
| 21:37.12 | Fisker | that was nerfed :( |
| 21:38.20 | nevcairiel | zg wasnt really complicated, strategy wise. Maybe hakkar a bit, when you didnt know anything, and that other boss, i forgot his name, the one with the mind control and the pond full of zombies |
| 21:38.45 | Arrowmaster | its complicated when you have BADs |
| 21:38.48 | Jamash | zg was a bitch for guilds that knew nothing about raiding |
| 21:39.01 | Jamash | not really a good place to learn |
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| 21:39.04 | nevcairiel | raiding is a bitch if you know nothing about raiding |
| 21:39.05 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:39.25 | Zhinjio | This is so completely awesome I'm all out of words for laughing so hard: http://j.mp/iSB27P |
| 21:40.23 | Arrowmaster | like people not sticking together and some slacker trying to sneak past the patrolling giant troll but failing so they run to the rest of the group thats trying to take down a large pull outside mandokirs area |
| 21:40.37 | Jamash | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199 |
| 21:40.45 | Jamash | Zhinjio: ^ |
| 21:40.59 | Arrowmaster | i was close to strangling bitches from raiding with that guild |
| 21:41.20 | Jamash | let's form a wowuidev guild |
| 21:41.24 | Arrowmaster | like seriously hunting down my own guild members and strangling them |
| 21:41.32 | Jamash | then we can all hate each other |
| 21:41.40 | Jamash | I mean, more |
| 21:42.08 | Maldivia | Jamash: makes me want to play FF7 again :P |
| 21:42.57 | Jamash | I've never played a numbered FF game for more than ten minutes |
| 21:43.41 | Arrowmaster | i wonder where my save game of FF1 is |
| 21:43.43 | Zhinjio | Jamash: nice |
| 21:43.58 | Maldivia | the funny think about Sephiroth... he was voiced by Lance Bass in Kingdom Hearts :P |
| 21:44.32 | Gnarfoz | is there a current Lua environment for Windows that duplicates WoW's Lua feature set? |
| 21:44.37 | Jamash | I think FF jumped the shark after 6 |
| 21:45.21 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: you mean like the wowlua binary somebody used to maintain |
| 21:45.41 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: wow.exe |
| 21:45.43 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah, that kind |
| 21:45.54 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: almost funny! :O |
| 21:45.59 | Arrowmaster | cog or clad would know |
| 21:46.13 | Jamash | wasn't someone talking about that yesterday? |
| 21:47.30 | Gnarfoz | not sure what to grep my logs for to find /that/ |
| 21:48.40 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 21:48.46 | Gnarfoz | cog|away, jnwhiteh: do either of you know if there is a currently maintained Lua environment for Windows that duplicates WoW's current Lua feature set? |
| 21:49.15 | Fisker | LUA is crossplatform |
| 21:50.03 | Jamash | bites Fisker |
| 21:51.04 | Fisker | don't bite me bro |
| 21:51.14 | Arrowmaster | krka: GET HIM! |
| 21:52.05 | Jamash | nah someone was talking about building a dev environment in LÃVE whatever that is |
| 21:52.13 | Fla | the world ends in 8 minutes |
| 21:52.18 | Fisker | ok? |
| 21:52.20 | Jamash | finally |
| 21:52.34 | Fisker | that's so wrong |
| 21:52.40 | Fisker | todays doctor who was a two-parter |
| 21:53.17 | nevcairiel | actually, it was the first part of a multi-parter |
| 21:53.52 | Fisker | oh you nevcairiel |
| 21:53.57 | Fisker | http://aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de/apps/176/Ad6339248St3Sz170Sq100473141V0Id4/300x250_Bottom_mudder.gif <-i like this |
| 21:54.12 | nevcairiel | i only see a blank page |
| 21:54.23 | Fisker | don't adblock bro |
| 21:54.53 | nevcairiel | i dont get that ad |
| 21:54.55 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/bQa2n.gif |
| 21:55.09 | Fisker | i do nevcairiel |
| 21:55.12 | Fisker | and it's funny |
| 21:55.26 | nevcairiel | its probably funnier if you understand that weird language its in |
| 21:55.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah what 3rd world language is that? |
| 21:55.55 | airtonix | some bottom feeder language |
| 21:56.25 | airtonix | Fisker: umadbro? |
| 21:56.27 | Fisker | not really nevcairiel |
| 21:56.33 | Fisker | text has nothing to do with it |
| 21:56.43 | Fisker | it's funny because someone is putting dirty shoes on it |
| 21:56.54 | Maldivia | "With the new EB app you can use your iPad as a news paper" |
| 21:57.01 | airtonix | isn't the ipad2 made of glass ? |
| 21:57.08 | nevcairiel | that doesnt make any sense |
| 21:57.17 | nevcairiel | how do the muddy shoes come into play with the news paper |
| 21:57.28 | airtonix | that's all its good fir |
| 21:57.48 | Arrowmaster | you put down old newspaper so you dont get the floor muddy? |
| 21:57.55 | Fisker | nevcairiel it's not uncommon for some people to use a newspaper as makeshift mat |
| 21:58.01 | Fisker | tada |
| 21:58.02 | nevcairiel | they should've shown a hobo trying to use it as a blanket |
| 21:58.04 | Fisker | Arrowmaster gets it |
| 21:58.05 | nevcairiel | that i would've got! |
| 21:58.07 | Fisker | and he's american |
| 21:58.11 | Arrowmaster | would be better with a puppy pissing on it |
| 21:58.15 | airtonix | POLE DRIVER!! http://i.imgur.com/3Q6AH.jpg |
| 21:58.19 | Fisker | agreed Arrowmaster |
| 21:58.29 | Fisker | basically any kind of defamation of the ipad would've sufficed |
| 21:59.06 | Arrowmaster | well with a puppy peeing on it it i think more would get the joke |
| 21:59.08 | nevcairiel | in the US such an ad would probably end up in law suits as people would do it |
| 21:59.17 | nevcairiel | i can picture it in my mind already |
| 21:59.28 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:59.36 | Fisker | i was actually thinking about trolling steve jobs with it |
| 21:59.43 | Fisker | then he would ban their app again |
| 21:59.44 | Jamash | seems like putting it in a bird cage would be the most appropriate |
| 22:02.57 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: seems krka has surrendered in his never-ending quest to teach people (and trolls) how to spell Lua |
| 22:03.19 | nevcairiel | maybe he is just afk |
| 22:03.42 | Arrowmaster | krka: NO! |
| 22:04.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah hes probably just afk, im just screwing around leaving him confusing highlights for when he gets back |
| 22:05.17 | Fisker | dicks |
| 22:05.19 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ5-hBcSDBU <-this one was screwed over by apple as well i believe |
| 22:05.32 | Fisker | someone redirected me into #wowpedia |
| 22:05.33 | Fisker | damn jerks |
| 22:05.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: since that was a script, that's doubtful ;) |
| 22:06.26 | nevcairiel | its not been a script for ages |
| 22:06.56 | nevcairiel | if its just a script, why turn it off anyway :) |
| 22:07.15 | Gnarfoz | changed irc clients, broke something, lost it, who knows ;) |
| 22:07.49 | Arrowmaster | it was never a script |
| 22:08.16 | Arrowmaster | there was always too much of a delay for it to be a script |
| 22:08.28 | Gnarfoz | it was a sophisticated script! :P |
| 22:09.01 | Gnarfoz | 10:38:26 < krka> +nevcairiel: it's not a script, i'm just really unimaginative |
| 22:09.16 | Gnarfoz | i should check how to modify irssi's log format to prepend the date |
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| 22:14.55 | Gorbal | do they realy drop the keyring in 4.2? |
| 22:15.44 | nevcairiel | afaik, keys are going into some other storage |
| 22:16.27 | Gorbal | it seams all keyring code is deleted... |
| 22:16.52 | kd3 | I was quite ticked off about that when I sent out the email about that diff |
| 22:16.58 | kd3 | is still somewhat annoyed |
| 22:17.09 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 22:17.20 | zenzelezz | the keyring has been bleh after BC anyway, since there was little key gathering left |
| 22:17.20 | kd3 | I was proud of my key collection |
| 22:17.43 | nevcairiel | didnt they want to add just some new place to show them? |
| 22:18.07 | zenzelezz | is 4.2 on the PTR? |
| 22:18.11 | kd3 | yar |
| 22:18.24 | kd3 | for a few weeks now, you not getting the diffs? |
| 22:18.28 | zenzelezz | anyone tried what happens if you had, say, 180 skeleton keys in your keyring and not enough bag space for them? |
| 22:18.47 | zenzelezz | I assume they don't just delete those |
| 22:18.51 | Gorbal | keys since lk where perhaps pointless, but i liked the attunements |
| 22:18.54 | Gnarfoz | well they "recently" overhauled the character pane after 6 years of stagnation, keyring might just be next on the list |
| 22:19.16 | zenzelezz | I doubt it. Without attunements, I don't see much reason for keys |
| 22:19.30 | zenzelezz | just makes the old stuff Feats of Strength |
| 22:19.33 | zenzelezz | *make |
| 22:20.31 | Gorbal | attunements > gearscore |
| 22:20.35 | Gnarfoz | http://old.wowhead.com/achievement=1187 was removed but the keys remained, I'm not sure that shows clear intentions in either direction |
| 22:24.08 | Fisker | spell attunements were neat |
| 22:24.23 | Fisker | wish they had buffs and spells you could gain by doing quests and shit |
| 22:24.30 | Fisker | kinda like guild leveling but for solo |
| 22:24.43 | Gorbal | i hope they didn't this because they needed space in the navbar for the journal |
| 22:25.32 | Fisker | ooh they could embed keys/attunement into it |
| 22:25.33 | Fisker | :3 |
| 22:40.16 | Gnarfoz | ouch, database backup took 16h42min to complete |
| 22:40.41 | Gnarfoz | that's near 2.5x the time it normally takes ;o |
| 22:41.01 | Fisker | k Gnarfoz |
| 22:41.03 | Fisker | get some ssd's |
| 22:41.34 | Gnarfoz | that would change nothing, sadly |
| 22:41.47 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:42.00 | Gnarfoz | that's your prerogative, however, you'd still be wrong |
| 22:42.04 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:42.12 | Gnarfoz | I welcome your dissent |
| 22:42.29 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:42.39 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 22:42.42 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:42.58 | Gnarfoz | where's EDI >_> |
| 22:43.06 | Fisker | doesn't matter |
| 22:43.11 | Fisker | Shirik whitelisted me anyway |
| 22:43.21 | Gnarfoz | I disagree |
| 22:43.27 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:43.47 | Fisker | or maybe he changed it to only be the channel flood joining code |
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| 22:49.40 | airtonix | http://v12.auto123.com/en/2011/04/2012-audi-a7-papercraft-model/ |
| 22:51.05 | Fisker | omg airtonix |
| 22:51.09 | Fisker | i just erupted |
| 22:52.22 | Fisker | i would fullsize it and park it illegally btw airtonix |
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| 22:55.32 | wolli_ | hello |
| 22:56.15 | wolli_ | is there still an addon like bottomscanner that scans the auctionhouse for good deals? like items under vendor price or cheap epics? |
| 22:57.17 | airtonix | "Getting message 78 or 6734" |
| 22:57.18 | airtonix | ... |
| 22:57.21 | airtonix | of |
| 22:58.47 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 22:59.41 | wolli_ | you guys don't know something like bottomscanner, do you? |
| 23:01.40 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:01.44 | Corrodias2 | bottomscanner |
| 23:01.45 | Fisker | i'm a bottomscanner |
| 23:01.47 | Fisker | BAZINGA |
| 23:02.22 | wolli_ | hmmm cant find it anymore in the auctioneer pack. have there been a rename or something? |
| 23:04.20 | Gnarfoz | I think it's just btmscan now and make sure you're actually looking on auctioneeraddon.com, not wowi or curse |
| 23:04.35 | wolli_ | hmmm lets see.... |
| 23:05.30 | Fisker | Didn't Blizzard severely nerf Bottomscanner in 4.x? |
| 23:05.45 | wolli_ | Contains:!Swatter, Auc-Advanced, Auc-Filter-Basic, Auc-ScanData, Auc-Stat-Histogram, Auc-Stat-iLevel, Auc-Stat-Purchased, Auc-Stat-Simple, Auc-Stat-StdDev, Auc-Util-FixAH, BeanCounter, Enchantrix, Enchantrix-Barker, Informant, SlideBar, Stubby |
| 23:07.06 | Kandoko | hrm, many pings from that paste :P |
| 23:07.34 | wolli_ | hmmm? |
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| 23:07.36 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 23:08.05 | Kandoko | wolli_: The SearchUI portion of auctioneer replaced btmsfeeder/scanner |
| 23:08.36 | wolli_ | hmmm I will check it |
| 23:09.02 | Kandoko | Right click on the "search" glass in AUctioneers window or use the magnifying glass in the siderbar to open the SearchUI window |
| 23:09.53 | airtonix | scans |
| 23:10.17 | Fisker | scans a bottom |
| 23:10.54 | Kandoko | would post a link to said scan on bottoms, but Shirik would likely kick me |
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| 23:25.14 | airtonix | watches Shirikkick Kandoko anyway |
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| 23:26.17 | Kandoko | licks Shirik |
| 23:38.22 | Shirik | pets Kandoko |
| 23:38.46 | Shirik | and why would I kick you |
| 23:39.34 | Kandoko | cause I will tell everyone what you did to me :( |
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| 23:40.11 | Kandoko | gets handed a "bad touches" doll by Nechckn |
| 23:42.38 | Lunessa | Station. |
| 23:43.27 | foxlit | "Error 6 (net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND): The file or directory could not be found." |
| 23:43.45 | foxlit | why is Chrome being an idiot? |
| 23:44.54 | Shirik | heh, they rebooted one of the DBs on enwiki to resolve a problem.... "/dev/sda1 has gone 363 days without being checked, check forced." |
| 23:45.15 | Shirik | so much for 20 second fix |
| 23:45.17 | Corrodias2 | i like how you can't just trust those filesystems to be right |
| 23:46.16 | Shirik | it's because they're using miracles to store data |
| 23:47.48 | cog|away | Gnarfoz: to what extent do you mean "duplicate"? |
| 23:48.03 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 23:48.15 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 23:49.25 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: hm, not sure, some extent beyond grabbing what's on lua.org, I guess? not the whole WoW api of course |
| 23:49.54 | Fisker | it's friday friday |
| 23:50.06 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow |
| 23:50.06 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 23:50.15 | Fisker | it isn't? |
| 23:50.16 | Fisker | great |
| 23:50.17 | cogwheel | it's old but i don't think the environment has really changed any since then |
| 23:50.22 | Fisker | because i won't get my tablet until monday or tuesday |
| 23:50.24 | Shirik | this weekend is going to end Fisker |
| 23:50.39 | Fisker | Yes |
| 23:50.53 | Fisker | you know what is awesome? |
| 23:50.54 | cogwheel | it doesn't have a taint model |
| 23:51.01 | cogwheel | or any sort of addon loading framework |
| 23:51.03 | Fisker | whining on the forums about naming policies |
| 23:51.12 | Fisker | attracting enough attention to be reported for EVERYTHING HE GOT |
| 23:51.12 | Fisker | bam |
| 23:51.23 | airtonix | i just saw a spider get pwnd by lightening in minecraft lawl |
| 23:51.27 | Fisker | LULZ |
| 23:51.34 | Fisker | på piiiiiiikken |
| 23:51.46 | Lunessa | minecraft hates me. |
| 23:51.58 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
| 23:51.59 | Fisker | i hate you too |
| 23:52.14 | Lunessa | Phase I is now complete, |
| 23:53.24 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: ok, I guess that's the one I remembered but couldn't find - sadly, it's from 2008... hm |
| 23:53.38 | Gnarfoz | oh. I just saw, it's from you! :o |
| 23:53.41 | cogwheel | like i said, i don't think anything in its scope has changed in that time |
| 23:53.51 | cogwheel | :) |
| 23:54.32 | Gnarfoz | okies, thanks for pointing me there, I think it'll be fine regardless of absolute up-to-date-ness |
| 23:57.37 | Jamash | I hear if a creeper gets hit by lightning it turns into SUPER CREEPER |
| 23:58.28 | Fisker | i got a lot of white creeper right here |
