| 00:02.18 | Kraps | http://fatpita.net/images/image%20(6933).jpg?4526 |
| 00:17.17 | Fisker | Kraps |
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| 00:26.58 | Kraps | wait the steam daily deals are permanent? |
| 00:27.36 | Kraps | i mean the daily deal thing |
| 00:28.41 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5802371/mass-effect-fans-worry-that-expanded-gay-options-will-create-inconsistencies-alter-canon |
| 00:30.38 | durcyn | lesbian femshep is already canon, the end |
| 00:35.13 | Dagmar | Some folks are going to be suprised to find out that in the grand scheme of things, it just doesn't matter who diddled who |
| 00:35.33 | Dagmar | Maybe they should put a warning label |
| 00:35.54 | Dagmar | ESRB Warning: Storyline does not revolve around the use of your genitals. |
| 00:37.16 | Arrowmaster | cant wait for the games where that label would say 'does' instead of 'does not' |
| 00:37.27 | Dagmar | That would be an Illusion title. |
| 00:37.48 | Dagmar | ...although I don't necessarily think they really need to warn their customers. |
| 00:37.56 | Dagmar | Maybe if it doesn't they should |
| 01:01.14 | Kraps | the author has the right to change canon at any point right? |
| 01:01.31 | Kraps | in fact, it IS canon |
| 01:02.42 | Shirik | Someone please figure this one out for me |
| 01:02.47 | Shirik | I got a package shipped to me via UPS |
| 01:02.55 | Shirik | May 16, 201106:15:00 PM Arrival Scan |
| 01:03.00 | Shirik | so obviously it's in their hub |
| 01:03.07 | Shirik | Shipment Date:May 17, 2011 |
| 01:03.09 | Shirik | wat |
| 01:04.45 | Shirik | oh it gets better |
| 01:05.19 | kd3 | it's UPS... when I worked at a print shop, our delivery guy's favorite line was "can't spell 'stupid' without UPS" |
| 01:05.30 | kd3 | most of the UPS guys I run in to that I see more than once tend to chuckle at that |
| 01:05.30 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6fd04cf4baa8eb82350471ea34b06569.png |
| 01:05.33 | Shirik | My package time travelled! |
| 01:11.24 | kd3 | wow: http://twitpic.com/4yg4ur |
| 01:11.32 | kd3 | what I would've given to be on that flight |
| 01:12.01 | Shirik | kd3: I think this is my favorite part http://images.gammatester.com/pics/beb5f36c862eadb33fce5c58b99992ec.png |
| 01:14.44 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 01:14.51 | kd3 | ups' system has lost it |
| 01:15.46 | kd3 | also, wtf: In one of the more obscure golf rules, it turns out that getting attacked by a rabid fox is a two-stroke penalty [Scary] |
| 01:17.35 | sylvanaar | ugh I am so close to having a passable debugger working, and my watches aren't updating properly... so frustrating |
| 01:42.07 | Lunessa | What do you get the Time Lord who has everything? http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/d7d8/ |
| 01:43.49 | Kraps | the care was red in the first 2 books |
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| 01:46.54 | Kraps | i have not been drinking |
| 01:47.30 | Kraps | i hate alcohol |
| 01:58.18 | sylvanaar | you get them to bring david tennent back |
| 01:59.29 | Xyphoid | tennant looked pretty bored with it by the end of his run, i liked him sure but i think he bailed at a good point |
| 02:00.24 | sylvanaar | he said he wanted to leave while he was hot, but the show has sucked with this new guy |
| 02:00.26 | Arrowmaster | he was also having medical problems |
| 02:00.33 | sylvanaar | oh really? |
| 02:01.04 | Arrowmaster | also the main writers changed which is what i blame most of the decline on |
| 02:01.38 | Arrowmaster | although the main writer has written some of the best episodes in the past, the major story arcs arent as good |
| 02:04.25 | sylvanaar | oh new epi of camelot, sickbeard must not have been running |
| 02:08.50 | Lunessa | Stephen Moffat is a brilliant TV writer. |
| 02:10.03 | daev` | He does Sherlock also, doesn't he? |
| 02:10.06 | Lunessa | He's written almost all of the really amazing BBC stuff that I've liked over the last few years. And Coupling was pretty fucking amazinf. |
| 02:10.10 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 02:10.46 | Arrowmaster | not disagreeing, but i didnt think the major story arc of last season was as good as previous seasons, plus there has been tons of continuity issues since he took over |
| 02:11.04 | Lunessa | Umm.. this IS Dr. Who we're talking about. |
| 02:11.16 | Lunessa | Continuity is an alien concept. |
| 02:11.36 | Dagmar | If you think there were continuity problems you weren't paying attention. |
| 02:14.50 | Lunessa | Dr. Who is comic book TV. It's fun. |
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| 02:30.29 | Wobin | Timelords laugh at continuity |
| 02:34.06 | p3lim_ | is there some addon or some way that lets me easily check which recipies Im missing for any profession or secondary profession? |
| 02:34.27 | kd3 | ackis recipe list? |
| 02:41.26 | Lunessa | Oh man - "...social media increasingly force us to view our present as always a potential documented past." ~http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/05/14/the-faux-vintage-photo-full-essay-parts-i-ii-and-iii/ |
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| 02:56.18 | Kraps | http://blastr.com/2011/05/jewel-staite-how-i-feel-a.php http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/13/sarah-michelle-gellar-heading-to-cw/ |
| 02:59.00 | Kraps | also HOLY CRAP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials |
| 03:05.10 | Wobin | Kraps: yes, Dr Who is -not- a short series |
| 03:07.39 | Kraps | since everyone loves the tenth doctor and bbc america's website only shows the eleventh, is there anywhere i can watch that online? |
| 03:08.00 | Arrowmaster | tried hulu? |
| 03:08.24 | Kraps | they redirect to bbc america |
| 03:18.43 | Lunessa | "With a bold, angular design â not to mention impressive thinness and a bevy of new features â the X1 spits in the face of todayâs all-curves laptops and says: Yeah, to hell with it, we really liked Tron." http://www.wired.com/reviews/2011/05/lenovo-x1/ |
| 03:23.01 | p3lim_ | I don't care if you dont know norwegian, this is hilarious: www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/gjesdal/Fikk-sau-i-TV-kabelen-2810203.html |
| 03:23.19 | p3lim_ | A wild sheep got stuck in the TV cable |
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| 03:23.57 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 03:24.06 | p3lim_ | The dude that lived in the apartment noticed banging sounds from outside |
| 03:25.00 | p3lim_ | Its 4 meters up in the air, wtf |
| 03:25.08 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 03:25.14 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: ping |
| 03:25.49 | Iriel | ? |
| 03:26.01 | Shirik | Do you have any plans this weekend to take pictures of the moon? |
| 03:26.03 | Shirik | Just curious |
| 03:26.21 | p3lim_ | Arrowmaster: the cable to the left runs up a hill, the sheep got stuck in it and went over the edge, speeding down against the house in the air :p |
| 03:26.31 | Iriel | I didn't have any no, but then it's raining so it didn't really come to mind |
| 03:26.41 | Arrowmaster | p3lim_: sheepie on a zip line? |
| 03:26.59 | Shirik | I think I will |
| 03:27.18 | p3lim_ | Just think about beeing the one seeing it first, I would have died of laughter |
| 03:36.08 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: nope |
| 03:36.19 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: any particular reason? |
| 03:36.32 | Shirik | moon apogee? |
| 03:37.01 | Shirik | and by apogee I meant perigee |
| 03:37.18 | Thunder_Child | i didnt think you were talking about taking pictures of nothing |
| 03:37.51 | Thunder_Child | actually, i have found the best place to take pictures near me |
| 03:38.21 | Thunder_Child | 20 min of hiking and helo's are flying lower than you |
| 03:39.07 | Kraps | DOUBLEMEAT IS PEOPLE |
| 03:39.36 | Thunder_Child | kraps is krazy |
| 03:50.10 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: steams daily deal is a new permanent feature yeah? |
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| 03:56.40 | Shirik | nice Thunder_Child |
| 04:01.08 | Kraps | http://twitter.com/#!/hulu/status/70193689556828162 |
| 04:01.51 | Shirik | twitter now allows media in tweets? |
| 04:02.01 | Shirik | What happened to "OMG ONLY 2 CHARACTERS ALLOWEDEDED" |
| 04:02.38 | durcyn | the new web client explodes image links from certain hosts |
| 04:05.16 | Arrowmaster | cant wait for some celebs twitter to get taken over and millions of people get goatse'd |
| 04:13.39 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: daily? |
| 04:14.06 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: ah, i see |
| 04:18.32 | Kraps | hes confused http://twitter.com/#!/CaseyDHudson |
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| 04:24.54 | p3lim_ | Hm, using an item that is yet not cached (use it via API, not clicking it) causes a disconnect. How do I prevent this? |
| 04:36.24 | Iriel | is it a legal item? |
| 04:36.47 | Thunder_Child | could be after a server restart, couldnt it? |
| 04:43.01 | Shirik | "legal item"? |
| 04:43.32 | p3lim | The item(s) I am testing it with are items dropped by creatures that start quests |
| 04:44.13 | p3lim | The purpose is to automaticly start these |
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| 04:44.45 | p3lim | And as I said earlier, the issue is that if the item is not in the local cache the client will disconnect |
| 04:46.19 | p3lim | pastey of my current code (don't mind the eventhandler): http://pastey.net/150018 |
| 05:01.29 | Kraps | Shirik: yeah, you never know with the burgeoning azerothian black market? |
| 05:01.51 | Shirik | maybe griftah came back |
| 05:04.00 | Shirik | ~wiki CSI effect |
| 05:04.10 | Shirik | This is today's featured article. And that's really depressing |
| 05:04.16 | Xyphoid | man, griftah was a high point of WoW |
| 05:07.17 | Arrowmaster | i love how theres one sentence that has 5 citations on it just to show its real |
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| 05:24.26 | Shirik | So um |
| 05:24.40 | Shirik | Kraps, Wikipedia is having an epic battle right now over short or long dashes in article names |
| 05:24.59 | Kraps | lulz |
| 05:25.01 | mikma | shirik: who caaaaaaaaares |
| 05:25.04 | Shirik | One argument for the short ones is "it is the simplest to type, and so they should be used so any editor can be expected to use it" |
| 05:25.09 | Shirik | The response was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_capital_letters |
| 05:25.28 | kd3 | please tell me this debate's getting listed in "latest edit wars" |
| 05:25.36 | Shirik | oh it's going to arbcom |
| 05:25.38 | Shirik | it's epic |
| 05:25.52 | kd3 | arbcom's weighing in!? |
| 05:25.53 | kd3 | wtf |
| 05:26.21 | airtonix | does apache2 ssl certs relate to any directory path on the server at all ? i won't have to regenerate on if i restructure the path from /var/www/something.com to /var/www/new.com ? |
| 05:26.22 | kd3 | has the request been posted yet? |
| 05:26.27 | kd3 | tabs open the arbcom page |
| 05:26.41 | Shirik | ah it looks like they might have declined it |
| 05:26.43 | Shirik | let me find it |
| 05:27.48 | Shirik | aha |
| 05:27.49 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case&diff=429458335&oldid=429209333 |
| 05:28.11 | Shirik | They passed a motion instead http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACN#Arbitration_motion_regarding_hyphens_and_dashes |
| 05:28.30 | mikma | shirik: y u so boring |
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| 05:29.55 | kd3 | I'm just utterly floored that the arbcom actually had to say... anything about this |
| 05:30.07 | kd3 | what the hell has happened to enwiki? it's such a bureaucratic mess |
| 05:30.28 | Shirik | it's pretty pathetic |
| 05:32.42 | mikma | lol wikileaks lol |
| 05:33.43 | Shirik | ha, sony is giving out 2 free games to each subscriber? |
| 05:33.45 | airtonix | sweet, evolution just self-quit |
| 05:33.57 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: cheap games |
| 05:34.02 | Shirik | I was about to ask |
| 05:34.20 | Arrowmaster | if you select the two most expensive ones its only $40 |
| 05:34.49 | Arrowmaster | hell i remember when XBL was down for 2 days and microsoft gave everybody a free arcade game |
| 05:35.30 | Arrowmaster | thats $5 a day, sony isnt even at $2 a day |
| 05:39.06 | Shirik | Wow |
| 05:39.13 | Shirik | I would hate to be this guy http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/05/16/the-worst-pitching-performance-ever/ |
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| 06:54.35 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/moving |
| 06:56.25 | bluspacecow | is it weird i read that in the voice of yahtzee from zero puncuation ? |
| 06:57.13 | zenzelezz | "It's not a lengthy press release, but it's good news: the memory cards for the flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the Air France 447 crash in 2009, recently recovered from the sea floor almost two years later, are readable. The data was recovered over the weekend and includes the full two hours of cockpit recording." |
| 06:57.19 | zenzelezz | holy shit that's impressive |
| 06:57.36 | kd3 | yah |
| 06:57.45 | zenzelezz | bluspacecow: not really, the tone of the comic sounds a lot like something Yahtzee would do |
| 06:58.38 | bluspacecow | kk time to get all sweaty and hot at the gym later guys o/ |
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| 07:13.39 | Maldivia | you dont need a gym for that ;) |
| 07:15.45 | AcidWeb | Morning |
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| 07:21.37 | Xinhuan | . |
| 07:21.48 | Xinhuan | i accidentally clicked on an ad in a youtube video about wow |
| 07:21.59 | Xinhuan | and the ad was about a 10-day free trial for wow |
| 07:25.53 | Maldivia | well, 10 days is also enough time to go from 1 to 85 :) |
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| 07:48.49 | Torhal | http://bit.ly/jvphhG |
| 07:48.52 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: hacked? |
| 07:48.55 | jnwhiteh | morlando |
| 07:49.10 | jnwhiteh | something was posted on wowprogramming.com last night from you |
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| 07:59.27 | Kalroth | maybe he was sleep posting |
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| 08:56.50 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: the times for the sub-rounds SUCK =( |
| 08:56.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm only going to be able to compete in sub-round C |
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| 09:06.45 | foxlit | There are three. |
| 09:06.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah, 2am, 5pm (which I can't do) |
| 09:07.00 | foxlit | Presumably, one is at night, one is in the afternoon, and one is in the morning |
| 09:07.22 | jnwhiteh | I wonder how rough this round is going to be and whether or not I should try the 2am session just in case I run into issues |
| 09:08.09 | foxlit | It usually isn't too bad, though overconfidence will be the end of me someday |
| 09:08.25 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 09:08.35 | jnwhiteh | you're got a good mind for these sorts of things, you've shown that over and over =) |
| 09:17.53 | mitch0 | what sub-rounds? |
| 09:18.29 | jnwhiteh | for google code jam round 1 |
| 09:18.32 | mitch0 | ah |
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| 09:25.59 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 09:26.03 | Fisker | my head is pounding |
| 09:26.04 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: |
| 09:26.19 | jnwhiteh | I could pound your face if you think that would distract you from your head |
| 09:26.22 | jnwhiteh | otherwise I'm not sure how best to help |
| 09:26.42 | Fisker | ok |
| 09:26.46 | Fisker | i want the facepounding |
| 09:26.58 | Fisker | can you bring a eee pad transformer while you here? |
| 09:30.35 | jnwhiteh | hrm but I don't have one |
| 09:32.53 | Fisker | you can buy one |
| 09:33.02 | Fisker | and i give you danish kroner in return |
| 09:33.40 | foxlit | grr, a marauding flock of void rays |
| 09:35.32 | Fisker | what a bunch of dicks |
| 09:35.40 | Fisker | "Please scroll to the end of the EULA" |
| 09:35.46 | Fisker | Doesn't that mean their EULA is invalid? |
| 09:35.52 | Fisker | They didn't tell me to read it |
| 09:38.02 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 09:39.12 | airtonix | Fisker |
| 09:39.22 | airtonix | #httpd is shambles |
| 09:40.29 | airtonix | 1) join httpd 2) propose discussion about collaborative workflow permissions on /var/www/site.com/public_html/ 3) ???? 4) problem officer? |
| 09:41.19 | Fisker | i lost my leg to cramps airtonix |
| 09:41.44 | Fisker | my head when i'm dreaming is fucking stupid :( |
| 09:41.57 | airtonix | you could transplant a dog lef |
| 09:41.58 | airtonix | leg |
| 09:42.31 | Fisker | "You must scroll down to the bottom of the Terms of Use to accept." |
| 09:42.35 | Fisker | It doesn't matter if you don't read it |
| 09:42.37 | Fisker | just scroll down |
| 09:42.38 | bluspacecow | would that mean fisker would start running in his sleep ? |
| 09:43.44 | Fisker | no |
| 09:44.12 | Fisker | but i remember strecthing my leg in a certain way would cramp me up |
| 09:44.14 | Fisker | so i did it |
| 09:44.27 | Fisker | and it takes like 10 tries or something |
| 09:44.29 | Fisker | so i did that |
| 09:44.32 | Fisker | increasingly hurting of course |
| 09:44.43 | Fisker | then i got up, wtf you stupid sleepy head :( |
| 09:45.14 | Fisker | "Favorite person from history" |
| 09:45.17 | Fisker | Think i'll write hitler |
| 09:45.59 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 09:46.31 | Torhal | assassinates Fisker with a thimbleful of Jell-O. |
| 09:46.40 | Fisker | https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api/image?c=03AHJ_VusIrLO_W3AMJKpcT9nr2XYjaCDGfgM7G7mO5UV1n6JQuy20KsbI7CbXBnKS0hwUIz50GeeFd4AJvZkMcncnnOBkckE3DgpZCzvB3Ah56MbtaJVEpsQeunWDDoB68p9nMUQ9ubjbl6PiGDodNgroIQBwbbm30A <-what a bitch captcha |
| 09:46.45 | Kalroth | rubs Fisker in some of Torhals hair gel |
| 09:51.06 | Cairenn | is anyone else having any problems logging in to gmail? |
| 09:51.40 | Torhal | Cairenn: I just did without issue. |
| 09:51.43 | Fisker | yes Cairenn |
| 09:52.47 | bluspacecow | i am too |
| 09:53.05 | bluspacecow | i keep trying to login as fisker_the_sexy_beast@gmal.com but it doesn't let me :( |
| 09:53.17 | Cairenn | :p |
| 09:55.04 | bluspacecow | j/k what it doing when you login ? |
| 09:55.13 | Cairenn | not a damn thing |
| 09:55.20 | Torhal | duct-tapes bluspacecow to a new Mac Pro. |
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| 09:55.25 | Torhal | goes to bed. |
| 09:55.27 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 09:55.34 | Cairenn | that's just it - I can't even get to the gmail page to try to log in |
| 09:55.42 | Cairenn | let alone login |
| 09:55.43 | Fisker | Cairenn |
| 09:55.47 | Fisker | try giving me your username and password |
| 09:55.58 | Cairenn | and I haven't been able to for basically a day now |
| 09:56.06 | Fisker | or nslookup |
| 09:56.08 | Fisker | then gmail.com |
| 09:56.09 | bluspacecow | 74.125.237.88 |
| 09:56.13 | bluspacecow | try going to that |
| 09:56.42 | Fisker | u stupid bluspacecow |
| 09:56.45 | Fisker | :3 |
| 09:56.47 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: that brings me to the main google search page |
| 09:57.06 | Fisker | run cmd then nslookup mail.google.com |
| 09:57.16 | bluspacecow | thats odd |
| 09:57.21 | Fisker | no it's not bluspacecow |
| 09:57.26 | Fisker | it's vhosts bam |
| 09:57.29 | bluspacecow | thats one of the results i get from mail.google.com |
| 09:57.33 | bluspacecow | giggity! |
| 09:58.13 | Fisker | you can have 2 domains pointing on 1 IP |
| 09:58.19 | Fisker | but you can't have 1 IP pointing on 2 domains |
| 09:59.56 | Cairenn | server: unknown, address: 192.168.1.1, non-authoritiative answer: name: googlemail.1.google.com, address: 74.125.226.54, 74.125.226.53, 74.125.226.55, 74.125.226.56, aliases: mail.google.com |
| 10:00.03 | foxlit | "point on", Fisker. |
| 10:00.10 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2121712294 |
| 10:00.14 | foxlit | It's really "point to" |
| 10:00.21 | Fisker | fuck you foxlit :( |
| 10:00.25 | Fisker | that looks odd :o |
| 10:00.49 | foxlit | Will the radicals point on Helle for prime minister? |
| 10:00.51 | Fisker | cna you do a ipconfig? |
| 10:00.55 | foxlit | See, doesn't sound right! |
| 10:01.05 | Fisker | Helle for Helle som statsminister |
| 10:01.18 | bluspacecow | *dances teh ipconfig for fisker* |
| 10:01.25 | olafski | that seems like an odd thing to do.. buy an account then report it for trading |
| 10:01.40 | Fisker | the original owner is trying to get it back |
| 10:01.52 | olafski | yes.. but the guy gave his money to the original owner |
| 10:01.53 | bluspacecow | wait wait wait wait |
| 10:01.57 | bluspacecow | fisker's a cow ? |
| 10:01.59 | bluspacecow | wtf ? |
| 10:02.01 | olafski | reporting the account will definitely not make that better:P |
| 10:02.15 | foxlit | olafski: who cares? :) |
| 10:02.17 | Fisker | no |
| 10:02.17 | Cairenn | brb |
| 10:02.20 | Fisker | but what else is he going to do? |
| 10:02.38 | foxlit | I wonder whether they actually ban people who they catch selling their accounts |
| 10:02.48 | foxlit | sounds counter-productive. |
| 10:02.51 | olafski | nothing I guess fisker |
| 10:02.57 | Fisker | they pretty much can |
| 10:03.03 | olafski | foxlit: well, the needs of the many and such I guess |
| 10:03.04 | Fisker | unless the seller/buyer is retarded |
| 10:03.09 | Fisker | can't |
| 10:03.15 | bluspacecow | i am still fixiated by fisker's bull |
| 10:03.17 | bluspacecow | Moooooooo |
| 10:03.33 | Fisker | Posting on the forums that the account is account trading is utterly pointless for Blizzard |
| 10:03.36 | Fisker | doesn't actually prove anything |
| 10:04.23 | Fisker | Remember that guy that used to do patch hosting for WoW? |
| 10:04.28 | Fisker | his account was banned for trading as well |
| 10:04.38 | Fisker | (Basically a lot of people were trying to "sell" his account) |
| 10:04.50 | Fisker | but because they had no proof they had to remove the ban again |
| 10:04.53 | foxlit | Team Terran: 76/100, Team Zerg: 62/100 Team Protoss: 56/100 |
| 10:04.58 | foxlit | teach me to pylon rush, Fisker? |
| 10:05.11 | Fisker | no |
| 10:05.40 | foxlit | no?! |
| 10:05.43 | Fisker | btw foxlit |
| 10:05.53 | Fisker | i just found out why you were giving me a grammar lesson |
| 10:06.00 | Fisker | i wasn't talking about "point to" looking odd |
| 10:06.03 | Fisker | but the dns results |
| 10:06.05 | Fisker | :O |
| 10:07.20 | foxlit | Interesting theory, Fisker. |
| 10:08.17 | Fisker | thanks |
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| 10:11.22 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 10:13.47 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 10:13.54 | Fisker | we finally got a proper extra sim service here |
| 10:14.10 | Fisker | only ~6,5 euros a month |
| 10:14.12 | Fisker | (lulzd) |
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| 10:19.25 | Fisker | is your dns non-sucking now Cairenn ? |
| 10:19.58 | Cairenn | yup |
| 10:20.10 | Cairenn | for whatever reason, rebooting my computer fixed it |
| 10:20.13 | Cairenn | stupid thing |
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| 10:50.45 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1927 |
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| 10:53.54 | Fisker | omfg jnwhiteh |
| 10:53.57 | Fisker | police sirens |
| 10:57.01 | Fisker | mmm boogers |
| 10:57.14 | Kalroth_ | tmi |
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| 12:28.02 | Adys | More dates for Svengali for UK residents interested - http://goo.gl/H6pDm |
| 12:30.34 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn! Hoppy Twos Daze. |
| 12:32.54 | Cairenn | heh |
| 12:34.38 | zenzelezz | happy Norway day in fact |
| 12:36.08 | Lopeppeppy | It's Norway's birthday today? |
| 12:37.12 | zenzelezz | constitution day or nation day or whatever's the right name |
| 12:37.20 | zenzelezz | the one we celebrate anyway |
| 12:37.31 | foxlit | Freedom from the Swedes? or the Danes? |
| 12:37.35 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 12:37.38 | zenzelezz | just constitution |
| 12:37.48 | zenzelezz | freedom from the Swedes didn't come until 1905 |
| 12:37.58 | zenzelezz | constitution was in 1814 |
| 12:38.08 | foxlit | " The constitution declared Norway to be an independent nation." |
| 12:38.24 | zenzelezz | yes, but we were still under Sweden until 1905 |
| 12:38.26 | foxlit | "However, Norway was at that time under Swedish rule [...] and for some years the King of Sweden was reluctant to allow the celebrations." |
| 12:38.42 | zenzelezz | then, just to show how separate and unique we were, we imported a Danish prince |
| 12:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | tee hee, he said "under Sweden"! |
| 12:39.01 | Cairenn | lo |
| 12:39.03 | Cairenn | l |
| 12:39.16 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: if you've seen the Scandinavia and the World comic, being under Sweden isn't a bad thing |
| 12:39.39 | zenzelezz | well, in the strips where she's a lady with big breasts |
| 12:40.08 | foxlit | Does that hold for any lady in that strip? |
| 12:40.23 | zenzelezz | not quite, there are some weird ones |
| 12:40.29 | zenzelezz | you may want to stay away from Iceland |
| 12:40.59 | foxlit | The latest comic is kind of awesome |
| 12:42.02 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I got myself some lilacs yesterday. Now you have to buy me a much more expensive present instead. You snooze, you lose. |
| 12:42.39 | zenzelezz | the Finnish lion is pretty awesome, as shown in http://satwcomic.com/coat-of-arms |
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| 12:48.52 | Lopeppeppy | 'tis the season for people to suddenly realize they want to re-do their websites. Ugh. Why don't I get a summer vacation? :) |
| 12:49.32 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: re-do a summer vacation website |
| 12:49.39 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: cause it's winter, silly =) |
| 12:49.48 | TMc51 | Lopeppeppy: It is? I thought it was the season for people to no longer want anything to do with their websites, and cancel their hosting. |
| 12:50.08 | Lopeppeppy | Students are gone, suddenly they want to use their free time to limit my free time. |
| 12:50.10 | TMc51 | I guess I'm doin it wrong. |
| 12:52.07 | Lopeppeppy | I work at a college, I have a captive audience that can't cancel anything, just continually change it. |
| 12:54.54 | foxlit | Clearly your free time is paid for ;) |
| 12:56.05 | Lopeppeppy | There are 5 of them, and only one of me. This is wrong tool for job... |
| 12:57.03 | foxlit | Are they in any shape or form connected to the CS department? |
| 12:57.30 | Lopeppeppy | They're all different departments/offices, that's what makes it exciting! |
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| 13:12.54 | Kraps | pikathulu http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/05/pika.jpg |
| 13:14.44 | foxlit | design patterns [in C++]? |
| 13:15.18 | Kraps | we shall never know |
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| 13:15.41 | foxlit | clearly descending into madness with those books |
| 13:15.55 | foxlit | "effective c++" -> "more effective c++" -> "design patterns" -> ... |
| 13:20.56 | foxlit | wtf, curse |
| 13:21.12 | foxlit | visit an addon page, click someone's name in a comment, get an unrelated profile |
| 13:23.12 | Cairenn | o.O |
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| 13:27.49 | Kraps | "Steam Daily Deals offer discounted games. PC gamersâ economic stability threatened" hoho |
| 13:28.52 | airtonix | foxlit: gratsbro |
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| 13:29.13 | airtonix | ~8ball |
| 13:29.14 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Better not tell you now |
| 13:29.32 | airtonix | grumbles |
| 13:30.08 | airtonix | what's a bet they don't make another season of game of thrones? |
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| 13:30.17 | Cairenn | hugs alestane |
| 13:34.57 | Maldivia | airtonix: they already renewed it for a second season |
| 13:35.52 | airtonix | jolly good and all that toff |
| 13:36.08 | Maldivia | and it's slowly rising in ratings and viewers |
| 13:38.28 | Kraps | jolly good airtonix |
| 13:39.03 | Maldivia | and speaking of TV.... ABC has 13 new shows on their 2011-12 primetime schedule |
| 13:42.20 | Maldivia | hehe, and they renamed good christian bitches to good christian belles :P |
| 13:42.31 | foxlit | "Make a new facebook profile and call it "nobody", then when you dislike something you can click the "Like" button with the "nobody" profile, and it will say "Nobody Likes This"" |
| 13:43.02 | airtonix | lawl |
| 13:44.55 | zenzelezz | god damnit Youtube, just because I switch to Grid View doesn't mean I want you to start playing any random video from the channel |
| 13:45.24 | Lopeppeppy | gives zenzelezz some valiums. |
| 13:45.45 | haste | the grid view thingy on youtube has such a shitty usability |
| 13:45.53 | foxlit | Indeed, it means you want it to start playing all of them. Simulataniously! |
| 13:46.01 | haste | at least it's better now than it was first implemented |
| 13:46.11 | haste | but I find it horribly annoying to work with |
| 13:47.45 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 13:47.58 | Fisker | nah Lopeppeppy i send you those licals |
| 13:48.01 | Fisker | lilacs |
| 13:48.13 | airtonix | lolcats |
| 13:48.46 | Kraps | many things on youtube have shitty usability |
| 13:49.02 | Kraps | and they're inconsistent |
| 13:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh-uh, Fisker, I picked them right off the bush myself. |
| 13:51.28 | Fisker | teach a man to fish! |
| 13:51.42 | airtonix | and he catches fish |
| 13:52.01 | airtonix | or risks pissing me off |
| 13:53.07 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/175494/how-is-it-fair-that-dps-never-get-ctas |
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| 13:54.56 | Fisker | so a man just threatened to quit WoW because his armory profile isn't updated (Which seems to be his own fault) |
| 13:54.57 | Fisker | woo |
| 13:56.03 | airtonix | thrilling |
| 13:57.08 | airtonix | please, entrhal us further with your chilling tales brethren |
| 13:58.17 | Lopeppeppy | As Scrooge would say, let him depart, and decrease the surplus server population! |
| 13:58.52 | airtonix | i like this |
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| 14:00.28 | Kraps | whoa the Ragnaros encounter looks complex |
| 14:01.09 | zenzelezz | I take it it's not just a remake of the original? |
| 14:01.29 | Fisker | it's entirely the same |
| 14:01.34 | Fisker | down to the level, hp and damage |
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| 14:01.58 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2301-Encounter-Journal-Preview |
| 14:02.31 | Kraps | i dont know, i wasnt around then |
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| 14:04.09 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 14:04.14 | Fisker | you are a Kraps |
| 14:04.18 | Fisker | now act like a kraps |
| 14:04.36 | Kraps | i dont get it fisky |
| 14:05.36 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 14:05.38 | Fisker | btw hey Ackis ? |
| 14:09.19 | Kraps | this bro is mad http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/906251-Tier-12-Warlock-Multi-Race-Screenshots-Blue-Posts-The-Daily-Blink?p=11494099#post11494099 |
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| 14:15.05 | alestane | There's a cooking daily in SW called "Penny's Pumpkin Pancakes." Every time I see it, I have to llok at it repeatedly to convince myself it's not "Peppy's Pumpkin Pancakes." |
| 14:15.27 | Lopeppeppy | I would enjoy to make Pumpking Panshakes! |
| 14:25.38 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:25.49 | cog|sleep | what is this i don't even http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnnGHgeyC0 |
| 14:25.51 | Lopeppeppy | Those are not useful for pumpkin pancakes. |
| 14:26.27 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: did you get my message from earlier? |
| 14:27.56 | cog|sleep | hmm? |
| 14:28.13 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.14 | foxlit | :( |
| 14:29.25 | Maldivia | nice... |
| 14:29.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.42 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: damnit, now I can't find it. |
| 14:29.44 | foxlit | :/ |
| 14:29.47 | jnwhiteh | someone posted as you last night |
| 14:29.52 | jnwhiteh | on wowprogramming.com |
| 14:30.00 | mitch0 | about goats? |
| 14:30.06 | jnwhiteh | I've had this happen once before |
| 14:30.09 | cog|sleep | jnwhiteh: wasn't me :\ |
| 14:30.14 | jnwhiteh | but I don't see a log of that ever happening, so now I have to go look things up again. |
| 14:30.25 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:31.06 | jnwhiteh | yeah, here it is: http://wowprogramming.com/forums/book/24#3 |
| 14:31.16 | jnwhiteh | now I have to figure out how it happened. |
| 14:31.41 | cog|sleep | from 2008? O.o |
| 14:31.51 | jnwhiteh | yeah, this is the odd thing. |
| 14:32.13 | jnwhiteh | i'll keep looking at it. |
| 14:32.30 | jnwhiteh | I don't see how they were able to edit your post |
| 14:32.30 | cog|away | off to work |
| 14:32.31 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 14:32.56 | cog|away | maybe there's a hole in the wiki? |
| 14:33.14 | jnwhiteh | I've tried that route, but I'll look again |
| 14:33.29 | jnwhiteh | the security model is very simple and works for everythign I've tested |
| 14:33.36 | jnwhiteh | and parameter injection just doesn't work |
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| 14:45.31 | Fisker | my feet jnwhiteh |
| 14:45.33 | Fisker | smell them |
| 14:47.11 | Parnic | what are you, fisker? |
| 14:51.27 | Fisker | i'm me Parnic |
| 14:51.40 | Parnic | you're not parnic, you're fisker |
| 14:52.18 | TMc51 | slaps Fisker around with a 10 pound trout. |
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| 14:54.38 | alestane | Okay, not doing that daily again... |
| 14:54.52 | TMc51 | alestane: Which one? |
| 14:54.56 | Lopeppeppy | You don't like my pancakes? *sniff* |
| 14:55.00 | alestane | "Live Bait". |
| 14:55.12 | alestane | The pancakes were delicious, Peppy. |
| 14:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | excellent, alestane. |
| 14:55.25 | Lopeppeppy | brb, nunchings. |
| 14:55.45 | alestane | I'm protesting the daily where you smear yourself with fish guts and jump into a frozen lake, in order to emerge covered in pinching crawfish. |
| 14:56.08 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 14:56.10 | TMc51 | Oh, so fishing Nat Pagle style, minus the sharks. |
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| 15:02.18 | alestane | The nyou have to run to the nearest camp, while still covered in crawfish, so the cook can sweep them into his pot. |
| 15:07.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qIaNgRKWOA |
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| 15:12.21 | alestane | "Orphans like cookies too" keeps reminding me of one of those "headlines" collections: "Kids Make Nutritious Snacks." |
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| 15:28.24 | nevcairiel | anyone else having some issues with chrome dev channel lately? I cannot open files i downloaded anymore, clicking on them does nothing, and one page seems to have a messed up style sheet |
| 15:29.43 | Adys | nevcairiel: os? |
| 15:29.48 | nevcairiel | win7 |
| 15:30.01 | Adys | try reinstall it |
| 15:30.07 | Adys | switch channel and back or something |
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| 15:32.16 | Cairenn | station |
| 15:32.21 | Lunessa | station! |
| 15:32.41 | Lunessa | You cheated. :P You saw me login to IM clients. :P |
| 15:33.05 | Adys | im gonna make a bot that says "play" when Lunessa joins |
| 15:33.24 | Cairenn | Lunessa: rawr! |
| 15:33.29 | Lunessa | Heh, ~onjoin |
| 15:33.45 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I'll rawr you, bebah. |
| 15:33.53 | Cairenn | promises promises |
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| 15:34.48 | Kraps_w | Cairenn: so what does the topic mean? |
| 15:35.03 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:35.15 | cog|away | hehe |
| 15:36.07 | cogwheel | Kraps_w: http://i.imgur.com/6e0dE.jpg |
| 15:36.11 | Kraps_w | i only got "mcdonald" |
| 15:36.27 | Cairenn | yup, that's the one cogwheel |
| 15:36.32 | mikma | cogwheel: old :I |
| 15:36.40 | cogwheel | mikma: lern2context |
| 15:36.44 | cogwheel | :P |
| 15:36.45 | mikma | cogwheel: old :I |
| 15:37.37 | cogwheel | somehow mrs cog and i ended up calling Grilled Stuft Burritos "grista barristas" |
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| 15:38.09 | Kraps_w | is it a joke on some kind of accent? |
| 15:38.34 | mikma | yes |
| 15:38.46 | cogwheel | "some kind" being quasi-gibberish |
| 15:39.08 | mikma | mofn |
| 15:39.39 | Cairenn | http://imgur.com/gallery/Dt07O is the link mikma had given me that led to me using that in the topic |
| 15:39.52 | Cairenn | I was laughing so hard at it I had tears running down my cheeks |
| 15:40.39 | alestane | It's vaguely Southern U.S. |
| 15:40.45 | Adys | Lunessa ? |
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| 15:41.18 | alestane | Like, Ozarks or something. |
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| 15:41.32 | Adys | Lunessa: do me a favour and /cycle. |
| 15:41.43 | Cairenn | I dunno what accent it's supposed to be mocking, but it's hilarious imo |
| 15:42.12 | cogwheel | it looks like a hybrid between southerner, 3-year-old, and lolcats |
| 15:42.37 | Kraps_w | ^ |
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| 15:43.05 | Adys | cogwheel: I think it's this accent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfkPcTNnGNk |
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| 15:43.30 | Addybot | Play |
| 15:43.35 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:43.41 | Adys | see? it works |
| 15:43.47 | foxlit | http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/ << hate. |
| 15:43.49 | cogwheel | <3 it crowd |
| 15:43.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 15:44.06 | foxlit | every second question is like "Hey guys how do I get on google?!" |
| 15:44.13 | Cairenn | (@ addybot) |
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| 15:45.44 | cogwheel | or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik |
| 15:49.07 | nevcairiel | Adys: i figured out why that one page looks funny. Its ssl, but loads some assets from http hosts, apparently latest dev channel does not allow that anymore, and i fail to find an option to turn it on again. =/ |
| 15:50.34 | Adys | huh |
| 15:50.37 | Adys | it allows that just fine |
| 15:50.44 | Adys | do you have weird shit enabled in about:flags? |
| 15:50.52 | nevcairiel | i never opened that page |
| 15:51.02 | Adys | do you have weird fetishes? |
| 15:51.36 | nevcairiel | all googling i did seems to mention some "under the hood" page i can configure this, but i'm unable to find this page or any option regarding this |
| 15:51.52 | Adys | uth is in prefs |
| 15:52.02 | durcyn | is it world routable, nevcairiel |
| 15:52.08 | Adys | try prefs->under the hood -> https/ssl check for server cert revoc |
| 15:52.35 | nevcairiel | I found some old screenshots of the option, but thats the old setting dialog, before they re-did it |
| 15:52.39 | nevcairiel | seems the option went missing |
| 15:52.47 | Adys | link |
| 15:55.37 | nevcairiel | http://googlechrometutorial.com/google-chrome-advanced-settings/Google-chrome-ssl-settings.html |
| 15:55.46 | nevcairiel | it just doesnt look like that anymore, and the dropdown is gone |
| 15:56.30 | Adys | which one are you talking about? |
| 15:56.33 | nevcairiel | it seems to allow insecure images, but not css |
| 15:56.43 | Adys | the "allow all content to load" one? |
| 15:56.46 | nevcairiel | "When there is mixed content on secure SSL pages" |
| 15:56.49 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:56.58 | nevcairiel | it seems to default to "allow insecure images" now |
| 15:57.00 | Adys | link the page |
| 15:57.04 | nevcairiel | with no option to change |
| 15:57.31 | nevcairiel | its kinda login protected. <.< |
| 15:57.51 | airtonix | wow... |
| 15:57.54 | airtonix | just .. wow |
| 15:58.12 | airtonix | using <hr/> as a design element in the site template |
| 15:58.17 | airtonix | i will kill someone |
| 15:58.37 | airtonix | and <br class="clearfloat" /> |
| 15:58.41 | airtonix | FUUUUUUUUU |
| 15:58.57 | airtonix | Fisker: you will answer for your crimes |
| 15:59.11 | Adys | hr isn't terrible |
| 15:59.15 | Adys | depends how you're using it |
| 15:59.25 | airtonix | in text body i agree |
| 15:59.59 | airtonix | this isn't 1990 or geocities anymore though |
| 16:00.09 | airtonix | or msword |
| 16:00.21 | nevcairiel | chrome really needs an about:config where i can just fiddle with every setting manually, unless it has and i just dont know where |
| 16:00.24 | Adys | hr is ok if it's used for example to separate paragraphs |
| 16:00.40 | foxlit | chrome's config UI is actively going backwards |
| 16:00.47 | Adys | nevcairiel: about:flags is as close as it gets |
| 16:01.47 | airtonix | nevcairiel: |
| 16:01.49 | airtonix | about:about |
| 16:02.17 | airtonix | a boat a boat |
| 16:02.50 | Adys | foxlit: yes and no |
| 16:02.52 | Adys | http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1768/screen20101107090003.png |
| 16:02.55 | Adys | you don't want that do you |
| 16:03.14 | foxlit | What the heck is that? |
| 16:03.31 | airtonix | a firefox addon? |
| 16:03.36 | Adys | some popular firefox extension's config panel |
| 16:04.02 | foxlit | clearly not popular for its configuration UI |
| 16:04.28 | Adys | thing is when you get tempted to add a bunch of configurable stuff this is what you end up with |
| 16:04.35 | Adys | about:config on firefox is nice though |
| 16:04.44 | nevcairiel | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=81637 |
| 16:04.48 | nevcairiel | i found the bug ^ |
| 16:04.59 | Adys | ah, was looking for it |
| 16:05.03 | Adys | its fixed, that explains it |
| 16:05.14 | nevcairiel | its a "feature" |
| 16:05.25 | nevcairiel | i just want a freaking option thats not a cmdline argument |
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| 16:05.39 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/i/conf.png looks good to me, really |
| 16:06.58 | Adys | nevcairiel: for now use the commandline option I guess :P |
| 16:07.59 | nevcairiel | how the hell do i pass cmdlines to an app launched from the win7 task bar |
| 16:08.04 | nevcairiel | its not like its normal shortcuts on there |
| 16:08.22 | foxlit | You can probably put normal shortcuts down there |
| 16:08.28 | Adys | try right click properties or something |
| 16:08.31 | Adys | has to be somewhere |
| 16:08.39 | nevcairiel | right clicking brings up the jumplist :P |
| 16:08.48 | foxlit | that's fine |
| 16:08.50 | Adys | well i dont know. use linux. |
| 16:08.50 | foxlit | right click again |
| 16:09.15 | nevcairiel | ah, on the actual launch option in the jumplist, lets see if this works |
| 16:09.55 | nevcairiel | hooray, the page has style again |
| 16:12.15 | Kraps_w | my |
| 16:12.17 | Kraps_w | name |
| 16:12.19 | Kraps_w | is |
| 16:12.27 | Kraps_w | macintosh |
| 16:15.19 | bluspacecow | no its krap |
| 16:15.23 | bluspacecow | i mean kraps |
| 16:18.47 | Kraps_w | no bluspacecow |
| 16:18.54 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 16:18.57 | bluspacecow | so it's crap ? |
| 16:19.02 | Lunessa | *sigh* It's going to be a looooooooong day. |
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| 16:19.53 | Lunessa | Why, why, why, why did we have to go with Oracle? |
| 16:20.40 | Lopeppeppy | In order to torture you most effectively. |
| 16:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oracle is a common modern torture device, I hear from my own IT people who service ours. |
| 16:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | They're outsourcing like mad. |
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| 16:26.17 | Lunessa | I shouldn't complain. I'm not an Oracle guy, so naturally it seems like arcane voodoo to me. But when it goes bad, it's like something out of a Roman Polanski film. |
| 16:26.34 | Lopeppeppy | It just keeps going bad, in worse ways, until you have to have it exorcised. |
| 16:26.38 | airtonix | omg YUS! |
| 16:26.41 | airtonix | Get:1 http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main python-setuptools 0.6.10-4ubuntu1 [213kB] |
| 16:26.41 | airtonix | Fetched 213kB in 0s (15.3MB/s) |
| 16:26.53 | bluspacecow | better then something out of a quiten torintino film i guiess |
| 16:27.00 | Adys | you're happy about downloading setuptools? |
| 16:27.04 | Adys | no offense dude but use distutils |
| 16:27.05 | airtonix | indeed |
| 16:27.10 | airtonix | at 15MB a second |
| 16:27.21 | bluspacecow | maybe he likes it like that ? |
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| 16:27.28 | airtonix | oooooo |
| 16:27.40 | airtonix | Adys: Distribute? |
| 16:27.49 | Adys | distutils |
| 16:27.59 | Adys | its the same as setuptools except its not fucking nonstandard |
| 16:28.12 | airtonix | i fucking get you bro |
| 16:28.19 | airtonix | stop being so crass |
| 16:28.47 | Adys | i get easily annoyed at setuptools |
| 16:28.59 | airtonix | so do i, it was a slip of the finger |
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| 16:29.04 | Adys | they have a certain pulseaudio level of bullshit |
| 16:29.05 | airtonix | look. |
| 16:29.13 | airtonix | i'll sacrifice a lamb for you ok? |
| 16:29.42 | Adys | reminds me im hungry |
| 16:29.58 | cogwheel | lol @ html5 giving semantic meanings to <u> <b> and <i>. Guess they got tired of trying to get people to stop using them... |
| 16:30.32 | Adys | cogwheel: no, the w3c got bribed by ubisoft |
| 16:30.38 | Adys | get it? <u><b><i>soft |
| 16:30.43 | cogwheel | yep |
| 16:30.51 | airtonix | rage |
| 16:30.53 | airtonix | http://dpaste.com/543455/ |
| 16:30.55 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 16:30.59 | airtonix | Note, selecting python-setuptools instead of python-distribute |
| 16:31.04 | airtonix | -_- |
| 16:31.08 | Adys | ? |
| 16:31.12 | Adys | distutils is part of the stdlib |
| 16:31.25 | airtonix | so pip ? |
| 16:31.30 | airtonix | wru |
| 16:31.37 | airtonix | need pip bro |
| 16:31.38 | Adys | no, pip is a download tool for both setuptools and distutils |
| 16:31.41 | airtonix | gief pip |
| 16:31.48 | Adys | python-pip |
| 16:32.10 | airtonix | wipe my chin too please |
| 16:32.18 | Adys | pip = python-pip = downloader that works with setuptools, distutils et all, it's good stuff |
| 16:32.30 | Adys | easy_install = python-setuptools = same thing but bullshittier |
| 16:32.36 | airtonix | yes yes |
| 16:32.47 | Adys | python-setuptools = setuptools = distribution library |
| 16:33.02 | Adys | distutils = stdlib = same thing but in the stdlib (and less bullshitty.) |
| 16:33.02 | airtonix | http://python-distribute.org/pip_distribute.png |
| 16:33.39 | cogwheel | oh, it's just <i> & <b> |
| 16:33.43 | cogwheel | no love for <u> |
| 16:33.45 | airtonix | so you're saying it's still bullshitty |
| 16:34.10 | airtonix | or have some degree of bullshittiness |
| 16:34.20 | airtonix | which is less that that of setuptools |
| 16:34.24 | airtonix | than |
| 16:36.32 | Adys | airtonix: use distutils |
| 16:36.42 | airtonix | VIRTUALENV_USE_DISTRIBUTE |
| 16:36.44 | Adys | in python 3.3, there's going to be "packaging" or some other module |
| 16:37.16 | Kraps_w | wow its 12:40 already :o |
| 16:37.22 | Adys | No, it's not. |
| 16:37.34 | airtonix | virtualenv environ --distribute --relocatable --no-site-packages |
| 16:37.43 | airtonix | <3 |
| 16:37.54 | Kraps_w | Adys: its 40 past the hour |
| 16:38.37 | Kraps_w | you cant deny it |
| 16:38.41 | Adys | Kraps: it's 16.38(@+6.0) |
| 16:40.38 | jnwhiteh | Adys: naturally, my logs were disabled with a lighttpd update in March O.o |
| 16:40.43 | Adys | lol |
| 16:40.49 | Adys | well that fails |
| 16:40.57 | jnwhiteh | Adys: but I can tell by what happened in the database that it was an edit, not a new post. |
| 16:40.58 | Adys | you sure theres nothing somewhere in varlog? |
| 16:40.59 | airtonix | how does that make you feel |
| 16:41.09 | jnwhiteh | absolutely nothing in /var/log |
| 16:41.10 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:41.14 | jnwhiteh | since March(ish) |
| 16:41.20 | Adys | any way to ask your isp? |
| 16:41.26 | jnwhiteh | I am my ISP =) |
| 16:41.32 | jnwhiteh | so no, not really |
| 16:41.46 | Adys | you're providing your own internet? :P |
| 16:41.48 | jnwhiteh | i'm super interested in how it was accomplished |
| 16:42.02 | jnwhiteh | no, but its a VPS so getting something like http logs is not going to be possible |
| 16:42.16 | jnwhiteh | I checked Google Analytics, but naturally there's no info for that page |
| 16:43.44 | Adys | What I hate in western europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Time_zones_of_Europe.svg |
| 16:44.15 | jnwhiteh | If anyone else wants to try and play, the goal is to edit the reply on this forum discussion: http://wowprogramming.com/forums/book/2 |
| 16:44.45 | jnwhiteh | that node name, since you'll likely need it, is forums/book/2/2 |
| 16:46.00 | jnwhiteh | and i'll tell you that post_tokens are only time tokens, they're not restricted to a node id (they should be, and I'll be fixing that) but that still shouldn't matter |
| 16:47.57 | jnwhiteh | Adys: you're an admin, fail. |
| 16:48.02 | Adys | i know |
| 16:48.11 | jnwhiteh | I need to remove that edit now |
| 16:48.13 | jnwhiteh | need to keep it clean |
| 16:48.14 | Adys | im looking at the post requests |
| 16:48.17 | jnwhiteh | you can test on another page =) |
| 16:48.19 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 16:49.29 | Adys | jnwhiteh: do you have a test non-admin account |
| 16:49.39 | jnwhiteh | just my own, feel free to create one |
| 16:49.48 | Adys | meh |
| 16:50.11 | airtonix | night |
| 16:50.11 | jnwhiteh | i can disable the field hashing as well |
| 16:50.16 | jnwhiteh | that would make it easier. |
| 16:51.25 | Adys | no need |
| 16:51.38 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 16:53.25 | Kraps_w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/175797/ask-the-devs-hoodwinking |
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| 16:57.50 | angayelle | i believe it have been asked already but can't remember the answer, is it possible to have a fonstring rotated by 90° ? |
| 16:58.03 | jnwhiteh | Also, I suspect this only happens with posts that were auto-imported, but I'm not sure. that means looking at stuff older than 2008 is a good plan. |
| 16:59.44 | Lunessa | Duh - Winning. http://www.fmylife.com/kids/16217085 |
| 17:00.40 | Kraps_w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/174831/character-guild-arena-team-apis-preview |
| 17:03.21 | jnwhiteh | huh, 9 people subscribe to the sire RSS feed on GoogleReader =) |
| 17:03.34 | angayelle | buh using a portal or teleport spell trigger a 2sec cooldown on evocate |
| 17:03.49 | angayelle | k it's the gcd |
| 17:04.26 | Kraps_w | Fable 3\ is out on Steam |
| 17:04.47 | durcyn | the only problem is that it's fable 3 |
| 17:05.12 | Kraps_w | is it? |
| 17:08.29 | jnwhiteh | access logs are absolutely facinating. |
| 17:08.39 | Maldivia | Kraps_w: not out till Friday |
| 17:08.55 | angayelle | if GetSpellCooldown return value which are misleading during the gcd lockout, how can i trust to know if my spell is up or not ? this is kinda weird |
| 17:09.15 | Kraps_w | Maldivia: its in the new releases section |
| 17:09.34 | Maldivia | Kraps_w: hmm, might be regions then |
| 17:10.00 | Maldivia | here it says that it'll be released on May 20th |
| 17:11.29 | jnwhiteh | so many HTTP/1.0 requests |
| 17:13.25 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: do you need directory listings enabled? |
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| 17:13.36 | Mikk | umm not hugely |
| 17:13.51 | jnwhiteh | I can just disable it on all of mine. |
| 17:13.55 | jnwhiteh | I'm happy with leavign it up |
| 17:14.10 | Mikk | i imagine your domain gets more hits than mine =) |
| 17:14.17 | jnwhiteh | that's fine tho |
| 17:14.22 | jnwhiteh | i dont care just didn't know if you used it =) |
| 17:14.23 | Kraps_w | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/17/the-moving-dead-dead-island-trailer/ |
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| 17:14.25 | jnwhiteh | if you do, problem solved. |
| 17:14.47 | Mikk | i have it on a few directories but eh |
| 17:14.51 | jnwhiteh | no prblem |
| 17:14.52 | Mikk | convenience more than have-to |
| 17:14.54 | jnwhiteh | you're fine =) |
| 17:15.36 | Mikk | is fine!! o/ |
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| 17:17.57 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: make sure that its still working |
| 17:17.57 | karl_w_w | hey mikky you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind, hey mikky |
| 17:18.00 | jnwhiteh | i think we have some old config stuff. |
| 17:18.53 | Kraps_w | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/17/the-moving-dead-dead-island-trailer/#comment-690863 |
| 17:19.19 | karl_w_w | angayelle: why does it matter? if you really need to know I think you'd just have to remember when the spell was cast |
| 17:20.49 | karl_w_w | or compare arg1 with arg2 (if arg1 was less time ago than arg2 it must be gcd) |
| 17:21.19 | angayelle | not really i was planning on using onupdate to check it the spell was on cooldown, using if duration == 0 then Statusbar:Hide(); else StatusBar:Show() end make my status bar flicker at each gcd |
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| 17:21.49 | angayelle | i had to change it to if duration <= 1.55 then |
| 17:22.13 | Kraps_w | http://i.imgur.com/RUCfy.jpg |
| 17:23.12 | angayelle | but indeed i could use the CLE to get the start timer |
| 17:23.55 | angayelle | but then i'd have to use again onupdate to get the bar moving so... |
| 17:29.18 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:29.20 | Fisker | wanna highfive? |
| 17:29.58 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 17:31.00 | Kraps_w | you guys like game of thrones? |
| 17:31.28 | TC-Laptop | the book or the show? i find the book to be meh |
| 17:31.57 | Lunessa | pho for lunch almost makes up for Oracle downtime. |
| 17:32.02 | jnwhiteh | i enjoy they both =) |
| 17:32.59 | Kraps_w | TC-Laptop: you like the show though? |
| 17:33.12 | TC-Laptop | Kraps_w: havent seen it |
| 17:33.18 | TC-Laptop | wanted to read the book first |
| 17:33.21 | TC-Laptop | books* |
| 17:33.34 | jnwhiteh | off to home, bbl |
| 17:37.02 | Kraps_w | TC-Laptop: i watched LOTR a while ago and really liked it, tried to read the books and after a long time i only got up to the first third of the second book |
| 17:37.56 | durcyn | definitive evidence that peter jackson is a better storyteller than j.r.r. tolkien: tom bombadil |
| 17:38.36 | Kraps_w | yeah that was a weird sidetrack |
| 17:38.58 | karl_w_w | angayelle: I hate you for filling my head with this puzzle :P |
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| 17:39.48 | angayelle | dun bang your head too much on the wall, it's sorted this way, maybe not optimal but still |
| 17:40.35 | karl_w_w | if GetTime() - start > 1.5 then Hide else Show end |
| 17:40.42 | karl_w_w | that should do I i think |
| 17:40.54 | karl_w_w | do it* |
| 17:42.27 | angayelle | you can use duration as well, no need to compute GetTime()-start |
| 17:42.29 | karl_w_w | that would cause it to not show til 1.5 seconds after it goes on cd |
| 17:42.40 | karl_w_w | so theres another part to it |
| 17:44.28 | karl_w_w | i clearly need sleep, I can feel the answer right there |
| 17:44.33 | karl_w_w | but i cant grasp it :P |
| 17:45.01 | angayelle | you can dismiss now, you made your part |
| 17:45.19 | angayelle | ./salute |
| 17:46.37 | Kraps_w | make your time |
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| 17:53.20 | karl_w_w | if duration ~= 0 and GetTime() - start + duration = <spellcd> then Show else Hide end |
| 17:53.24 | karl_w_w | ^ angayelle |
| 17:53.38 | karl_w_w | see I knew I could work it out |
| 17:56.36 | karl_w_w | you wouldn't even need the duration ~= 0 actually |
| 17:57.30 | angayelle | nice, thanks |
| 18:07.28 | Kraps_w | why are they leaving notes in CAPS? :( |
| 18:08.14 | karl_w_w | maybe they were angry at the time |
| 18:09.02 | Kraps_w | haha |
| 18:09.43 | TC-Laptop | Kraps_w: i think i would like the daily sales if it wasnt stuff i already had. |
| 18:10.07 | Kraps_w | TC-Laptop: i think theres only been 1 so far |
| 18:11.04 | TC-Laptop | Kraps_w: 2 |
| 18:11.09 | TC-Laptop | YESTERDAY AND TODAY |
| 18:11.13 | TC-Laptop | err...caps |
| 18:11.14 | TC-Laptop | sorry |
| 18:11.57 | Kraps_w | ah didnt see todays |
| 18:17.16 | Gnarfoz | <durcyn> definitive evidence that peter jackson is a better storyteller than j.r.r. tolkien: tom bombadil <-- because PJ left him out? you don't like puzzles? :D |
| 18:18.00 | nevcairiel | i liked tom bombadil, i missed that part in the movie |
| 18:18.45 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:18.52 | Fisker | i like you |
| 18:19.20 | Gnarfoz | but I agree that the books can be hard to digest ;p |
| 18:19.34 | Gnarfoz | (you're supposed to read them, that's probably why!) |
| 18:20.44 | Kraps_w | Gnarfoz: for me i think the problem is books written before 1980 |
| 18:20.51 | durcyn | i have both read and chewed on the books multiple times |
| 18:21.06 | Kraps_w | especially high-fantasy |
| 18:21.18 | durcyn | they taste like shit and tom bombadil is still tolkien's worst writing, and i'm including the silmarillion in that |
| 18:21.47 | Gnarfoz | indeed, you don't like puzzles :p |
| 18:22.16 | Gnarfoz | uTorrent should use my GPU to accelerate hashing files~ |
| 18:22.45 | nevcairiel | isnt it mostly IO bound these days |
| 18:22.51 | Kalroth | ^ :) |
| 18:23.11 | Lunessa | Tom Bombadil serves two purposes in Tolkien's story - a chance to play with his made-up languages and world-building. |
| 18:23.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: nah |
| 18:23.28 | Lunessa | in other words - it's not for you. |
| 18:23.33 | Cairenn | I liked Tom! |
| 18:23.42 | Lunessa | Me too, as a side tale. |
| 18:23.58 | Lunessa | But Tom was written for Tolkein, not the reader. |
| 18:27.03 | Fisker | one day Lunessa |
| 18:27.16 | Lunessa | Bang, pow... to the moon! |
| 18:27.35 | nevcairiel | that already happened |
| 18:27.54 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: It's a reference to "The Honeymooners" |
| 18:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa went to the moon without me? |
| 18:28.50 | Lunessa | puts Cairenn and Lopeppeppy into his personal rocket ship to the moon for a weekend getaway of low-g dancing and exotic vistas. |
| 18:29.01 | Cairenn | mmmmmrowl! |
| 18:29.13 | Lopeppeppy | Personal rocket ship, is that what they call it these days? |
| 18:29.41 | Fisker | one day Lopeppeppy |
| 18:29.43 | alestane | flies them to the moon. |
| 18:29.51 | alestane | (That means I'm going too.) |
| 18:30.16 | Lunessa | Fly me to the moon, let me play among the stars. Let me see what spring is like on Jupiter and Mars... |
| 18:30.28 | Fisker | want a trip in my unmanned spacecraft? |
| 18:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | No, I prefer very manly spacecraft. |
| 18:31.09 | KarlKFI|work | lol |
| 18:32.47 | Cairenn | I believe you can get me through the night, I believe we can reach the morning light, Fly me high through the starry skies, Maybe to an astral plane, Cross the highways of fantasy, Help me to forget today's pain |
| 18:33.03 | Kraps_w | "a friend is someone who has the same enemies!" |
| 18:33.23 | Kraps_w | man this company is creepy |
| 18:33.57 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I'll weave some dreams. ;) |
| 18:34.00 | Lopeppeppy | Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids. In fact, it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did. |
| 18:34.35 | Lunessa | Ground Control to Major Tom. |
| 18:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | Go to rockets full, not responding. |
| 18:36.06 | Lopeppeppy | WoWUIDev, where the odds are good, but the goods are odd. :) |
| 18:36.50 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 18:41.18 | Fisker | shields up |
| 18:42.50 | Fisker | ZorbaTHut down? |
| 18:43.44 | Adys | anyone ever flew on tarom? |
| 18:43.52 | Adys | romanian airlines |
| 18:44.36 | Fisker | yeah it crashed and we all died a horrible death |
| 18:44.59 | Adys | sweet, taking it |
| 18:45.03 | Fisker | but atleast i get to troll irc forever |
| 18:45.06 | Kraps_w | so we're dead now? |
| 18:45.18 | Fisker | no |
| 18:45.20 | Fisker | limbo |
| 18:45.36 | Kraps_w | sweet |
| 18:45.38 | Fisker | This is the geeky romanian version of lost |
| 18:47.34 | Lopeppeppy | My big fat sweet romanian lost episode? |
| 18:48.44 | Fisker | beware i've killed hundreds of romanians |
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| 18:53.23 | Lunessa | But I don't want to be Romanian. |
| 18:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | Alderan is too faaaar! |
| 18:57.30 | Kraps_w | you guys read any codex alera? |
| 19:00.52 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Finished the series 2 months ago, finally. |
| 19:02.47 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:02.50 | Fisker | are you a huge jerk? |
| 19:03.35 | Kraps_w | Lopeppeppy: ive read the first one so far, i think its pretty good |
| 19:04.33 | alestane | I just finished an excellent book by Cherie Priest called Dreadnought. The Civil War, with a liberal dose of dirigibles, diesel-powered giant war robots, and zombies. |
| 19:04.56 | Lopeppeppy | It's a very interesting series, with a lot of forward concepts. Around book 4 he did a bit more of tell-not-show than I like, but he brought it back together for the finale. |
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| 19:09.06 | Lunessa | *sigh* http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20063646-245.html - this is why carriers should not block software updates. |
| 19:10.25 | alestane | And it's often not even the carriers, but the phone vendors who have loaded the phone with a custom Android installation. |
| 19:11.43 | Lunessa | it never ceases to amaze me how little care is taken with authentication. |
| 19:12.09 | Kraps_w | my sister-in-law gave me this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1634:_The_Bavarian_Crisis |
| 19:13.46 | Kraps_w | its about modern-day people who traveled back in time and kinda changed the whole geo-political situation in 17th century europe |
| 19:13.57 | Kraps_w | part of a series |
| 19:15.34 | foxlit | Curse you, two-year-old code. |
| 19:16.40 | foxlit | On one hand, it works. On the other, I should rewrite it. But I'm le lazy :( |
| 19:17.33 | Lunessa | foxlit: Hacking Opie some more? |
| 19:17.40 | foxlit | No. |
| 19:17.48 | Lunessa | Take ze nap, then write ze code. |
| 19:18.07 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet... new kittens in the extended household came equipped with giardiasis! I am thrilled at the cross-contamination potentials! |
| 19:18.25 | foxlit | OPie needs a good hack, but that's slightly more ambitious given my current schedule of deadlines |
| 19:18.43 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:18.57 | alestane | That does sound like something to keep an eye on, Peppy. |
| 19:19.10 | Lunessa | I'm trying to find room in my schedule for anything but going to work, sleeping and raid nights. |
| 19:19.16 | foxlit | eep, OPie is actually 3 years old now. |
| 19:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | Not my kittens, but I handled them and fed them and handled their toys and litter pan... Oiy. |
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| 19:43.29 | Stanzilla | oh god blizzard |
| 19:43.34 | Stanzilla | wow premium services, really? |
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| 19:45.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's not like the services are new or anything, why is this suddenly the topic of fun? |
| 19:46.18 | Stanzilla | they want you to pay so you can group up with your real id friends |
| 19:46.50 | Lopeppeppy | So you can get a *guaranteed* group with your friends, rather than the poke-and-hope system? |
| 19:47.32 | Stanzilla | you can invite 1-4 and then queue |
| 19:47.33 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/176075/cross-realm-dungeon-feature-coming-soon |
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| 19:48.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah? They don't have to develop it at all. It's something that players are demanding - money where the mouth rants? And there's not a lot of detail in that post, which is I assume why everyone is pissed off. They want super-mega-instant perfect details!! |
| 19:49.49 | Stanzilla | wow already is subscription based and blizzard makes a ton of money from it |
| 19:49.55 | Stanzilla | no need to charge for that extra feature |
| 19:50.23 | cogwheel | "new thing will exist therefore i have a right to it" |
| 19:50.29 | cogwheel | riiight |
| 19:51.48 | Lopeppeppy | Extra is the key word. Y' wants yer extras, y' pays for them. a la carte options are not something everyone just gets because they want them. |
| 19:52.23 | Lopeppeppy | Bliz could just raise everyone's subscription rates by 2 dollars a month to account for everyone using this new service feature, how would that be? |
| 19:52.44 | Cairenn | given that I'll likely never use it, not okay by me |
| 19:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Cairenn! |
| 19:53.05 | Cairenn | yup |
| 19:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | So the people who want the a la carte extra service pay for it, and Cairenn and I do not. Everyone gets what they want! |
| 19:53.13 | Stanzilla | they already make enough money with the game imo |
| 19:53.13 | cogwheel | but they already make enough money!!1 tehy dont need moar! |
| 19:53.16 | Stanzilla | greedy bastards :< |
| 19:53.18 | cogwheel | haha |
| 19:53.45 | cogwheel | you do c wut i did ther right? |
| 19:53.48 | Stanzilla | if they would hire more devs and the game would be less bugged I would be ok with it |
| 19:53.52 | cogwheel | no |
| 19:53.54 | cogwheel | go away |
| 19:54.00 | Lopeppeppy | So because the car dealership made money selling you the car, they should never charge you for maintenance when you bring it back? Or for flashy new tires? |
| 19:54.03 | cogwheel | you're not entitled to anything |
| 19:54.55 | cogwheel | go do this on the forums |
| 19:55.05 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 19:55.28 | Fisker | lol Stanzilla |
| 19:55.30 | durcyn | entitlement is pretty cool |
| 19:55.31 | Fisker | lol. |
| 19:55.43 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what? :P |
| 19:55.48 | cogwheel | this channel has gone through too many arguments about entitlement already |
| 19:55.48 | mikma | whats this premium service you mentioned |
| 19:56.04 | Fisker | paying for being able to invite people cross realm |
| 19:56.05 | mikma | cogwheel: imma gonna entitle you as fisker-hater |
| 19:56.07 | Cairenn | mikma: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/176075/cross-realm-dungeon-feature-coming-soon |
| 19:56.36 | Fisker | can't really see any reason why it would be hard to do anyway |
| 19:56.44 | mikma | ah.. it was mentioned in the last part of that post |
| 19:56.49 | mikma | i only read the top :D |
| 19:56.54 | Fisker | it's not like cross-realm people fall off the face of the world if you're on the home realm while in a LFD group |
| 19:57.16 | mikma | LSD group |
| 19:57.38 | cogwheel | HCL group |
| 19:57.45 | Stanzilla | and charging extra money for that is just perky |
| 19:57.52 | Fisker | cumdumpster group |
| 19:58.06 | cogwheel | Charging extra money for an extra service??!! WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO??!? |
| 19:58.21 | mikma | boobs |
| 19:58.54 | Fisker | cogwheel if we were doing that we would've been paying 999⬠a month for WoW |
| 20:02.08 | foxlit | Oh, btw, raid content? EXTRA SERVICE. |
| 20:02.17 | Fisker | yes sir |
| 20:03.21 | Stanzilla | nah, extra bosses |
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| 20:03.45 | foxlit | "Swipe your card to unlock the trap door to Sinestra" |
| 20:03.47 | Stanzilla | want more raid content? choose one of the extra bosses for just $10 |
| 20:03.52 | Stanzilla | or that :p |
| 20:04.17 | alestane | Stanzilla, it's a common misconception that software can be made less buggy or more feature-rich simply by hiring extra developers. This is only occasionally the case. |
| 20:04.27 | Fisker | i could see heroic lockouts being a premium sevice hoho |
| 20:04.29 | Fisker | service* |
| 20:04.33 | cogwheel | aren't you glad WoW isn't run by American Airlines? |
| 20:04.57 | Stanzilla | alestane: more testers would help |
| 20:05.06 | cogwheel | how do you know? |
| 20:05.11 | foxlit | Honestly, I don't see this "hey, let's charge friends to group together!" policy as being sane. |
| 20:05.15 | alestane | Again, there are massively diminishing returns. |
| 20:05.16 | cogwheel | do you work for Blizz HR? |
| 20:05.21 | Stanzilla | cause they have like 2 or so atm, when you look at all the bugs |
| 20:05.39 | cogwheel | you're just assuming things |
| 20:05.41 | Stanzilla | that are sooo obvious |
| 20:05.46 | foxlit | alestane: could we get CastSpellByName/UseAbility/... in the restricted environment? |
| 20:05.50 | alestane | collapses laughing in a corner and can't be revived for several minutes. |
| 20:06.13 | cogwheel | Stanzilla: your ignorance is showing |
| 20:06.24 | cogwheel | it's quite gross. please put it away |
| 20:06.26 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 20:08.45 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 20:08.58 | Fisker | i guess Blizzard are the first to p-p-premium with their games |
| 20:09.23 | Stanzilla | I want extra skill ranks for $$ |
| 20:09.23 | Fisker | (Get it instead of exchanging p with f (for free games with premium services) we add extra p's) |
| 20:09.25 | Fisker | hoho |
| 20:09.32 | Stanzilla | hohoo |
| 20:20.36 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Does this mean I can invite you to dungeons. *wink* |
| 20:21.03 | Cairenn | will you protect me from the grue? |
| 20:21.23 | Lunessa | Totally. |
| 20:21.29 | Cairenn | sure can, then! |
| 20:22.02 | alestane | put a completely different interpretation on the word "dungeon," but carry on! |
| 20:22.09 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=237473#post237473 |
| 20:22.25 | foxlit | It strikes me that this probably violates the app store rules of "no programs executing scripts!" |
| 20:22.46 | Fisker | i wish we could get to pay for Real ID as well |
| 20:22.57 | Cairenn | alestane: *dws* |
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| 20:23.43 | alestane | foxlit: I'm pretty sure I saw a similar iPad app get pulled for that reason. |
| 20:24.13 | alestane | Protecting people from grues is easy, anyway, you just need a flashlight. |
| 20:24.22 | Fisker | anyway |
| 20:24.22 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: there isn't a prohibition against executing scripts |
| 20:24.24 | Fisker | it's their endgame |
| 20:24.28 | jnwhiteh | there is a prohobition against downloading and executing scripts |
| 20:24.34 | Fisker | losing the mmo market |
| 20:24.35 | Fisker | must |
| 20:24.36 | Fisker | act |
| 20:24.38 | Fisker | quick |
| 20:24.41 | Fisker | hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng |
| 20:24.44 | jnwhiteh | otherwise Angry Birds would not be allowed, along with tons of other apps. |
| 20:25.00 | alestane | Now...where did I put those batteries... uh oh... |
| 20:25.03 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: I think the obvious point you're making is that scripting as part of your application is fine. |
| 20:25.22 | alestane | You can execute scripts as long as those scripts are packaged with your app, jnwhiteh. |
| 20:25.31 | jnwhiteh | I'm making the distinction that they make, you cannot load arbitrary scripts and execute them, they must be approved and included with your app. |
| 20:25.38 | jnwhiteh | alestane: thank you for restating what I just said.. =) |
| 20:25.45 | foxlit | Which this violates :) |
| 20:25.55 | alestane | Dynamically obtained scripts are a no-no, regardless of source. |
| 20:26.01 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 20:26.04 | jnwhiteh | yes, as we've just said =) |
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| 20:26.20 | foxlit | [Also, selling access to the socket library? SCUM!] |
| 20:26.23 | jnwhiteh | glad we're all on the same page, foxlit wasn't specific enough for my tastes in his statement so I was clarifying =) |
| 20:26.54 | alestane | It's all very clear now, yes. |
| 20:27.02 | foxlit | Very, very clear. |
| 20:27.10 | jnwhiteh | so clear! |
| 20:27.28 | alestane | "I can see clearly, now, my brain is gone..." |
| 20:28.32 | Jamash | brains |
| 20:28.58 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: I got your note on GO vs Go, but I kind of painted myself into a corner with that one |
| 20:29.04 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:29.17 | jnwhiteh | its just a bit confusing because there's Go! and Go =) |
| 20:29.20 | Jamash | wake me up before you Go GO |
| 20:29.22 | jnwhiteh | neither of which are GO |
| 20:29.29 | Lunessa | Heya Tom, it's Bob. From the office down the hall. It's good to see you buddy, how've you been? |
| 20:29.58 | foxlit | Perhaps I should lose the case-sensitivity in URLs |
| 20:30.37 | Jamash | are they URLs, URIs or URNs? |
| 20:30.47 | jnwhiteh | its Google's fault for naming their language so :P |
| 20:31.17 | alestane | Things are pretty good for me, except that I'm a zombie now; Buddy, please just let us in. |
| 20:31.29 | foxlit | whee, sylvanaar's lua highlighting is... colorful. |
| 20:31.59 | sylvanaar_work | the intellij one? |
| 20:32.04 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 20:32.16 | foxlit | It's probably customizable. Your screenshots are a scary christmas tree, though :) |
| 20:32.35 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, the colors are all pretty useful though |
| 20:32.45 | sylvanaar_work | locals, globals |
| 20:33.18 | foxlit | local declarations are highlighted differently from local usage? |
| 20:33.40 | sylvanaar_work | no |
| 20:33.52 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5653&stc=1&d=1296359037 |
| 20:34.36 | sylvanaar_work | purple is parameters |
| 20:34.41 | foxlit | cyan vs black |
| 20:35.09 | foxlit | like in local chatType, chatTarget = ... vs strupper(chatType) == "BN_CONVERSATION") |
| 20:36.18 | sylvanaar_work | hrm, it might be an out of date image with a highlighting bug |
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| 20:37.01 | Lunessa | Alas, poor Cryptic. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34704/Atari_Drops_Champions_Online_Developer_Cryptic_Studios.php |
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| 20:38.58 | sylvanaar_work | foxlit: you should try it out - it's pretty easy to get going, I even have a video |
| 20:40.19 | foxlit | sylvanaar_work: it's not really the difficulty that's keeping me away :) |
| 20:40.43 | sylvanaar_work | i see |
| 20:42.27 | foxlit | Real programmers clearly use butterflies. |
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| 20:42.59 | foxlit | </xkcd> Actually, that argument seems just about as silly as "WHY DO YOU USE IDEs WHEN vi DOES JUST FINE?" |
| 20:43.13 | sylvanaar_work | i like feedback from knowledgable people |
| 20:43.21 | sylvanaar_work | so, if you have the time try it oit |
| 20:43.23 | sylvanaar_work | out |
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| 20:44.32 | ZTrek | what is the event that is triggered when you speak to an NPC? |
| 20:44.51 | foxlit | I guess it's a chicken-and-egg situation: without using an IDE, I'm not sure why I'd need it, and without trying it, I'm not going to find out why it's totally awesome. |
| 20:45.46 | foxlit | The lack of TextMate2 is annoying :( |
| 20:45.54 | sylvanaar_work | heh |
| 20:46.22 | sylvanaar_work | keep dreaming |
| 20:46.26 | foxlit | Not that I know what I want from that either. |
| 20:46.33 | ZTrek | what is the event that is triggered when you speak to an NPC? |
| 20:46.57 | cogwheel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events ctrl-f NPC |
| 20:47.08 | foxlit | ZTrek: it'd be much easier for you to start event logging and walk up to an NPC |
| 20:47.09 | cogwheel | though there probably isn't a single event |
| 20:47.20 | foxlit | /eventtrace, I think it is |
| 20:47.30 | cogwheel | if you talk to a quest giver, you'll probably get a quest-related event |
| 20:48.09 | ZTrek | I think I found it......SHOW REQUESTLIST DIALOG |
| 20:48.39 | foxlit | âDonât write a text editor; youâre reinventing fire.â |
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| 20:50.16 | alestane | Unless you want to do is figure out how fire works. |
| 20:50.30 | foxlit | It sounds like a fun time sink. |
| 20:52.20 | Fisker | i just had an idea Stanzilla |
| 20:52.30 | Fisker | If we recruit a friend |
| 20:52.35 | Fisker | and he pays for a month of gametime |
| 20:52.42 | Fisker | then we have to pay Blizzard a month of gametime |
| 20:52.48 | Fisker | if your friend pays for 2 months of game time |
| 20:52.51 | Stanzilla | woah, cool idea |
| 20:52.53 | Fisker | we owe Blizzard a free mount |
| 20:54.27 | Torhal|work | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=237473&postcount=1 |
| 20:54.55 | Cairenn | grrrr |
| 20:55.39 | Cairenn | thank you Torhal |
| 20:55.57 | Torhal|work | np |
| 21:02.40 | foxlit | Fisker: TeliaSonera coming to get us? |
| 21:03.44 | Gnarfoz | they want your packets. |
| 21:06.12 | alestane | What? My pancakes? Well they can't have them! |
| 21:06.16 | alestane | Peppy made those for me. |
| 21:06.59 | Gnarfoz | pakkkkkets |
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| 21:11.54 | cogwheel | MMM... pakkets & snossige |
| 21:12.08 | cogwheel | with mibble srip |
| 21:12.13 | Jamash | latkas? |
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| 21:16.42 | Fisker | in what way foxlit ? |
| 21:19.45 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2548785589#1 |
| 21:20.25 | Xyphoid | 'certain elements of the cross-realm Real ID party system will be premium-based' |
| 21:20.27 | Xyphoid | lame |
| 21:20.36 | foxlit | Kraps: old. Fisker already pronounced Blizzard dead. |
| 21:20.52 | Kraps | dead? |
| 21:20.58 | Kraps | did he kill them? |
| 21:21.13 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2123552598?page=2#38 |
| 21:21.17 | Fisker | There was a time where Activision Blizzard and Blizzard were seperate entities |
| 21:22.05 | foxlit | I predict they'll backpedal. |
| 21:22.27 | Kraps | ^ |
| 21:22.56 | Fisker | obviously |
| 21:23.10 | Kraps | well said "Then I got to the second paragraph and almost died from rage. I cannot believe the audacity of Blizzard wanting to charge for this feature when they continuously promote Playing with your friends." |
| 21:23.14 | foxlit | Otherwise, it'll be a fun question come blizzcon |
| 21:23.34 | Xyphoid | i thought they wanted to incentive realID, this kind of thing is what'd get me actually using it |
| 21:23.35 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: by then they'll be buried and forgotten! |
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| 21:23.57 | Xyphoid | the worst thing about WoW is the server model, i have real life friends playing on 4 different servers : |
| 21:24.10 | Kraps | this whole expansion is a big "friends " thing |
| 21:24.20 | foxlit | Along the same line of reasoning, they should charge you fat $$$ for playing SC2 with your friends as opposed to random players |
| 21:25.24 | Kraps | foxlit: what i'll say to that is that wows code structure is much older |
| 21:25.39 | foxlit | Kraps: I believe there's a reason I pay them monthly. |
| 21:25.54 | Kraps | i'm not saying they're right |
| 21:26.33 | foxlit | I'm not sure I consider "it's technically difficult, so we should charge people for it!" to be a valid line of reasoning |
| 21:27.13 | Gnarfoz | instead of doing this, they should start merging servers. ;) |
| 21:27.35 | foxlit | It's not like the servers are deserted |
| 21:27.40 | Xyphoid | the reason i'm not playing right now is that the RL people on dragonblight aren't playing |
| 21:27.50 | Xyphoid | and i can't be bothered rerolling to the other RL people I know's server |
| 21:27.52 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: sadly, you're mistaken :p |
| 21:28.01 | Gnarfoz | maybe yours is not |
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| 21:28.32 | Gnarfoz | 4, if not all 6 german rp-pvp could well be merged |
| 21:28.43 | Gnarfoz | all of them have that tumbleweed feeling |
| 21:29.06 | Kraps | foxlit: i wonder if it falls under their "optional features" |
| 21:29.08 | foxlit | Wow, all tree modifiers on that imply a lower population :P |
| 21:29.41 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: want to pay money to play with me? i can tank! |
| 21:29.43 | Gnarfoz | trees? |
| 21:29.46 | foxlit | (s/tr/thr/) |
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| 21:30.32 | Gnarfoz | the one true tree modifier: http://www.wowhead.com/item=68039 |
| 21:30.55 | foxlit | I like the new model, though |
| 21:31.01 | Gnarfoz | also, there's only one modifier there that would lower population: rp |
| 21:31.35 | foxlit | I'm sure PvP is less popular than normal servers |
| 21:31.37 | Gnarfoz | pvp servers are very popular, and it's not like within EU-WoW, DE is not the biggest language based sub-section |
| 21:31.55 | foxlit | Though perhaps they adjust that by making fewer realms with higher populations |
| 21:32.01 | Gnarfoz | are there public server lists in this day and age? |
| 21:32.14 | Gnarfoz | well, indeed, fewer realms! merge those fuckers :| |
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| 21:32.40 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/status |
| 21:32.41 | Gnarfoz | also, wtb faster intertubes |
| 21:33.06 | Cide | MOAR QUEUES |
| 21:33.17 | Cide | also why do they need to make all the cool things premium |
| 21:34.01 | Gnarfoz | 36 pve vs. 36 pvp for DE |
| 21:34.10 | Stanzilla | Cide: $$$ |
| 21:34.25 | foxlit | whoah, I'm wrong. There are apparently more PvP servers than PvE servers |
| 21:34.26 | Gnarfoz | Cide: all two of them? I wouldn't kn... OH â¬$â¬$⬠|
| 21:34.46 | Cide | they're introducing real id cross-realm grouping |
| 21:34.58 | Cide | premium only |
| 21:36.01 | Gnarfoz | 127 pvp vs. 102 pve, all EU |
| 21:36.10 | Gnarfoz | Cide: indeed, that's #2 |
| 21:36.24 | Cide | guild chat and remote ah are both pretty cool too |
| 21:36.26 | Gnarfoz | (limited) external chat being the other |
| 21:36.45 | Gnarfoz | well, you can't get one without paying for the other, too, so I count them as one |
| 21:37.02 | Cide | that doesn't make any sense :P |
| 21:37.07 | Fisker | Ackis bitch |
| 21:37.11 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't? why not |
| 21:37.36 | Cide | either you count all of them as one by the above reasoning or you treat each separately |
| 21:37.50 | Gnarfoz | all the ones I can have separately, I count separately |
| 21:37.52 | Cide | which gives either 1 or 3 |
| 21:38.28 | Cide | you can't have real id groups and not remote ah or remote guild chat can you? |
| 21:38.31 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: http://www.titanic-magazin.de/ |
| 21:39.06 | foxlit | Cide: nobody knows |
| 21:39.10 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: the what |
| 21:39.20 | Cide | doesn't sound like it in any case |
| 21:39.23 | Gnarfoz | Cide: you're the one with the "they are 3 things" perception (valid, of course), not me, stop trying to force that onto my, equally valid perception ;p |
| 21:39.27 | foxlit | They basically haven't announced how they're going to milk you for the cross-realm grouping |
| 21:39.33 | Gnarfoz | or when! |
| 21:39.37 | Cide | I'm just explaining why your reasoning is flawed :P |
| 21:39.45 | Gnarfoz | it's not, it's sound. |
| 21:39.48 | Cide | nothing points at them being available separately |
| 21:39.56 | Cide | whereas everything they've introduced so far has been under the same roof |
| 21:40.13 | Gnarfoz | nothing points at cross-realm LFD being available separately from wow remote? |
| 21:40.20 | Cide | correct |
| 21:40.20 | Gnarfoz | nothing points the other direction, either |
| 21:40.27 | Cide | they're all advertised as "premium features" |
| 21:40.41 | foxlit | so are faction transfers |
| 21:40.47 | foxlit | and character renames |
| 21:41.02 | Cide | that's not advertised as a premium feature is it |
| 21:41.11 | Gnarfoz | "premium services" |
| 21:41.24 | Cide | you can call it that, yes |
| 21:41.31 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard is calling it that |
| 21:41.40 | Cide | fair enough |
| 21:41.43 | Gnarfoz | whatever, catching up on SG:U now |
| 21:41.57 | Cide | that's one-time deals though |
| 21:42.04 | Cide | or one-time services |
| 21:42.11 | Gnarfoz | but first gotta finish listening to http://youtu.be/DHyJTpDFgc8 - sooo sweeet, AWWWW <3 |
| 21:42.20 | Cide | instead of continuous services like remote ah/gchat and real id groups |
| 21:42.24 | foxlit | Cide: one could reasonably argue that the mobile features (AH, chat) are distinct from in-game features. |
| 21:42.44 | Cide | indeed |
| 21:42.57 | Cide | time will tell |
| 21:44.23 | sylvanaar_work | i want to have wow remote without the wow subscription |
| 21:44.30 | sylvanaar_work | THAT is an idea |
| 21:44.42 | Fisker | Ackis you dick |
| 21:44.46 | Cide | expensive irc? |
| 21:45.05 | Gnarfoz | less expensive IRC than now |
| 21:45.09 | Gnarfoz | :} |
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| 21:52.48 | foxlit | whoa, I typed ls and ls froze. |
| 21:52.59 | foxlit | That is a scary number of files. |
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| 21:56.36 | Gnarfoz | happens to me regularily |
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| 21:56.52 | Gnarfoz | oracle audit dirs are bleh |
| 21:57.06 | foxlit | and now it's near-instant |
| 21:57.23 | Gnarfoz | ca-ching |
| 21:57.25 | Gnarfoz | err... caching |
| 21:57.26 | foxlit | I wonder if the HD fell asleep |
| 21:57.44 | Gnarfoz | both are entirely possible :> |
| 22:02.58 | Fisker | foxlit |
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| 22:05.25 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla |
| 22:05.55 | Kraps | i agree that this premium thing is bad but why do people have to make the leap to "AAAAAAA BLIZZARD EATS BABIES!"? |
| 22:06.00 | Fisker | A few days after this feature makes it into the game Mike Morhaime will conveniently "resign" and take a position at the Activision Blizzard board |
| 22:06.01 | Fisker | hoho |
| 22:06.13 | Fisker | because they do Kraps |
| 22:06.21 | Fisker | they ate my baby whole |
| 22:07.00 | Fisker | og så dør baby |
| 22:07.10 | Kraps | in todays not-news "Rumor: Wet sequel dries up, canceled" |
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| 22:12.24 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:12.25 | Fisker | penis? |
| 22:12.32 | Kraps | nah |
| 22:13.06 | Fisker | whoa |
| 22:13.09 | Fisker | US already postcapped? |
| 22:13.10 | Fisker | bam |
| 22:13.32 | Fisker | i like how they hid the topic on the dungeons forum for EU players |
| 22:13.36 | Fisker | very clever |
| 22:13.51 | Kraps | didnt know there was still a cap |
| 22:16.02 | Kraps | i think they need the money because in this system they'll have people running to each server to hand the invite to the recipient |
| 22:17.51 | Fisker | oh ok Kraps |
| 22:17.55 | Fisker | sounds fair enough |
| 22:18.37 | Fisker | i'm gonna go with the dream is collapsing |
| 22:18.45 | Fisker | http://inception.davepedu.com/ <-basically someone played this one over the comm system |
| 22:32.14 | Kraps | lol Fisker http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2548785589?page=26 |
| 22:45.19 | Fisker | heh |
| 22:45.24 | Fisker | guess a lot reported for sticky |
| 22:45.26 | Fisker | err |
| 22:45.30 | Fisker | post limit removal |
| 22:45.38 | Fisker | but they can't do that on the new forums i think |
| 22:45.40 | Fisker | well they can |
| 22:45.46 | Fisker | but they were told to fuck off and not do it |
| 22:45.53 | Fisker | as far as i recall |
| 22:49.58 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5802683/gagaville-the-most-monstrous-farmville-update-yet |
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| 22:52.39 | foxlit | PING kotaku.com (69.60.7.199): 56 data bytes |
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| 22:53.59 | Fisker | i disagree foxlit |
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| 23:15.57 | Fisker | sup Antiarc |
| 23:16.04 | Fisker | hello Ackis won't you die for me? |
| 23:18.34 | Fisker | YUS |
| 23:18.36 | Fisker | YUUUUUUUUUUUS |
| 23:18.38 | Fisker | i win the game |
| 23:18.45 | Fisker | i just got invited to the beta |
| 23:20.25 | Stanzilla | Fisker: which beta |
| 23:21.27 | Kraps | the beta beta |
| 23:21.36 | Fisker | Dear players |
| 23:21.36 | Fisker | blizzard entertainment notifies you that your wow account has been chosen to participate in cataclysm bata for more information |
| 23:21.51 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 23:22.15 | Kraps | ./facepalm |
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| 23:23.01 | Kraps | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43062471/ns/business-retail |
| 23:30.21 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/42670/ |
| 23:36.32 | ZTrek | what is the event that is triggered when you speak to a non quest giving NPC? |
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| 23:43.14 | Adys | ZTrek: /eventtrace |
| 23:43.30 | ZTrek | I tried that it did nothing |
| 23:43.49 | Adys | what do you mean it did nothing? |
| 23:44.21 | ZTrek | no reports on any events |
| 23:44.30 | Adys | you have a problem |
| 23:44.38 | Adys | is it even showing? |
| 23:44.57 | ZTrek | no |
| 23:45.13 | Adys | id figure that out if i were you |
| 23:45.58 | Adys | otherwise |
| 23:46.00 | Adys | wowprogramming.com |
| 23:46.05 | Adys | docs/events or something |
| 23:46.36 | ZTrek | I just thought somebody in here would know |
| 23:47.30 | Fisker | hahahahaha Stanzilla |
| 23:47.34 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 23:47.35 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2123552598?page=15#285 |
| 23:47.41 | Adys | at this time you'd have more luck with it :P |
| 23:47.56 | Stanzilla | hahaha |
| 23:47.58 | Stanzilla | so true |
| 23:48.20 | Fisker | i threw in a 4,99⬠a month for account management (so you can cancel your account) |
| 23:49.06 | Adys | Fisker: he has a point |
| 23:50.15 | Corrodias2 | WoW: combining subscription-based and free-to-play microtransaction principles, exploring undiscovered countries of profit. |
| 23:50.35 | Adys | wow can afford doing that |
| 23:50.54 | Adys | its the only game in the world that can afford doing bold shit like that |
| 23:50.54 | Corrodias2 | yeah, probably |
| 23:52.56 | Adys | Castle 2009 S03E24 |
| 23:52.57 | Adys | :o |
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