| 00:02.21 | DWSR | what's the command to get the name of the fframe under the mouse? |
| 00:02.26 | DWSR | Framestack isn't really giving me what I need. |
| 00:02.40 | DWSR | GetMouseover():GetName() |
| 00:02.41 | DWSR | ? |
| 00:03.05 | DWSR | nvm got it |
| 00:15.56 | Cide | what Fisker |
| 00:16.10 | Cide | helping you write songs for the eurovision song contest? |
| 00:23.21 | Cide | oh I went there |
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| 00:42.27 | DWSR | hey, macro question. |
| 00:42.40 | DWSR | If we have a hunter who's trying to tank, can he do /cast Thunderstomp /cast Arcane Shot? |
| 00:42.48 | DWSR | or does he need to do a /castsequence? |
| 00:43.48 | DWSR | I forget how pet GCD handling works. |
| 01:00.25 | Fisker | says Cide |
| 01:00.33 | Fisker | the copier of songs |
| 01:00.52 | Cide | go listen to Sing For Me |
| 01:12.33 | Wobin | haha https://twitter.com/#!/limi/status/68830481076060160 |
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| 01:22.16 | kd3 | anyone know off-hand what color currencies are when they're linked in the chat log -- "you received 75 Honor Points"? |
| 01:22.43 | Nefarion | green |
| 01:23.07 | kd3 | specifically |
| 01:23.22 | Nefarion | btw... does anybody know how to get a "Square" minimap texture? not that round thingie |
| 01:23.35 | kd3 | look at any minimap mod? |
| 01:23.48 | kd3 | say, chinchilla |
| 01:24.10 | Nefarion | i tried "function GetMinimapShape() return 'SQUARE' end" |
| 01:24.21 | Nefarion | but didn't work ... |
| 01:25.27 | kd3 | er, that's a user-defined api call, it's also a getter. you can't set the shape with that |
| 01:26.56 | Nefarion | aww kk... |
| 01:27.06 | Nefarion | so should be smthing like Set.... |
| 01:27.34 | kd3 | there's a mask you would need to change--not something I've ever dealt with. again, look at how minimap mods do it |
| 01:27.55 | Nefarion | kk |
| 01:29.57 | Nefarion | and, if i change a lua file, does a simple ui reload work or do i have 2 restart the game every time? |
| 01:30.06 | kd3 | if you just change a file, a reload will work |
| 01:30.11 | Nefarion | kk great thx |
| 01:30.18 | kd3 | if you add a new file that wasn't there when the client was started, you'll have to restart |
| 01:36.48 | Nefarion | okay, nice 2 know, thanks :) |
| 01:38.23 | Nefarion | bye guys :) |
| 01:41.38 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:41.47 | Wobin | why doesn't skype on the android offer video calls? =( |
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| 02:13.50 | Kraps | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2011/05/princess-beatrice-royal-wedding-hat-auction-ebay-philip-treacy.html |
| 02:14.51 | Kraps | "I'm amazed by the amount of attention the hat has attracted," the princess said in a statement. <----- no you arent, that was the point |
| 02:15.21 | Kraps | can that even be legally called a hat? |
| 02:16.05 | A-KO | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/226989_225276247486884_150276778320165_1052768_5026898_n.jpg |
| 02:16.07 | A-KO | ^ relevant |
| 02:17.08 | Kraps | thats freakin fate |
| 02:23.48 | Cairenn | bitchin' commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9TfcKB7nao |
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| 02:48.57 | TC-Laptop | so for shits and giggles I decided to price out the 13 games on my wishlist that have prices. $560. for 13 games. i am Le Sad. |
| 02:49.50 | Kraps | $43 per game |
| 02:50.33 | TC-Laptop | right, because i have some cheap ones in there |
| 02:50.40 | TC-Laptop | still, big chhink 'o change |
| 02:50.45 | TC-Laptop | chunk* |
| 02:51.29 | Arrowmaster | i went to preorder games today and gamestop wasnt taking preorders on duke bos anymore |
| 02:53.13 | TC-Laptop | possibly because they dont think it's actually going to be released |
| 02:58.08 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:58.17 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522163081?page=1#1 |
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| 03:39.17 | airtonix | FUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 03:39.24 | Trela | No thanks. |
| 03:43.26 | Cairenn | well crap |
| 03:43.36 | Cairenn | grumps |
| 03:44.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:45.17 | Cairenn | oh well, at least it means you guys don't have to put up with me during the finals :p |
| 03:51.29 | Zhinjio | hugs Cairenn |
| 03:51.36 | Cairenn | hugs Zhinjio |
| 03:51.40 | Zhinjio | there's no question they wanted it. |
| 03:51.47 | Zhinjio | they played their goddamn guts out the last 4 games |
| 03:51.54 | Cairenn | yup |
| 03:52.07 | Zhinjio | and holy shit Datsyuk |
| 03:52.15 | Cairenn | they damn near forced it into OT more than once in the last few minutes there |
| 03:52.19 | Zhinjio | what he did, WITH a broken hand |
| 03:52.20 | Zhinjio | unreal |
| 03:52.24 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 03:52.24 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 03:52.51 | Wobin | anyone know how the timer on the 'able to give this gear to others in the raid group' counts down? |
| 03:52.58 | Wobin | is it realtime, or logged in time? |
| 03:58.36 | Zhinjio | Cairenn: just reposted latest pic of Nicholas on fb if you'd care to take a look |
| 03:58.43 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 04:31.56 | nomulous | Is anyone familiar with Titan Panel plugins here? |
| 04:34.33 | tem | Who is responsible for LibKeybound? |
| 04:34.53 | tem | Gello, Maul, Toadkiller, Tuller: ping |
| 04:35.00 | tem | fuck gello hasn't been around in ages |
| 04:35.10 | Arrowmaster | gello on irc? |
| 04:35.20 | Arrowmaster | ~seen gello |
| 04:35.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'gello', Arrowmaster |
| 04:36.26 | tem | there's been a bug in this library forever |
| 04:36.31 | tem | and it bothers me |
| 04:36.38 | tem | I fix it locally every once in a while |
| 04:38.10 | tem | ~seen tuller |
| 04:38.11 | purl | tuller <~Tuller@c-69-143-48-210.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 11d 7h 31m 12s ago, saying: 'haha'. |
| 04:38.16 | tem | eleven days |
| 04:38.17 | tem | fml |
| 04:38.25 | tem | ~seen toadkiller |
| 04:38.26 | purl | toadkiller <~4a5d014a@gateway/web/freenode/x-nvvtvxgrwtanuoww> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 405d 8h 56m 38s ago, saying: 'no i think this is a greek tragedy'. |
| 04:38.32 | tem | ~seen maul |
| 04:38.32 | purl | maul <~Tom@CPE-143-238-112-239.lns10.cht.bigpond.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 8d 14h 20m 11s ago, saying: 'anyone with an ebay account want an easy $10us?'. |
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| 04:40.46 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEu19Ltn8-8&feature=related |
| 04:46.17 | Mr_Rabies | john madden john madden john madden |
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| 04:58.05 | nomulous | So nobody does Titan Panel stuff here? |
| 05:02.58 | durcyn | https://twitter.com/#!/seanpower epic. |
| 05:03.12 | bluspacecow | lolz titan panel |
| 05:03.15 | bluspacecow | so 2008 |
| 05:03.20 | tekkub | TITAN_NIL |
| 05:04.40 | Trela | Titan is just a launcher now. |
| 05:04.41 | nomulous | :( |
| 05:04.42 | airtonix | http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/willa-ford-totally-looks-like-lol-face.jpg |
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| 05:11.12 | Kraps | Shirik: why does everyone do john madden? |
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| 05:19.24 | Shirik | Kraps: Why should I know :P |
| 05:20.47 | Kraps | in all the insane "spamming voice chat with MS Sam" videos, they do john madden |
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| 05:24.35 | Kraps | http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/carmen-sandiego-totally-looks-like-sandra-bullock.jpg |
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| 05:29.42 | Kraps | related to earlier http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/princess-beatrices-hat-a-toilet-seat.jpg |
| 05:32.26 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atnSTtiWU5E&feature=related |
| 05:51.14 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 05:52.11 | Shirik | hi AcidWeb |
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| 05:53.19 | sylvanaar_ipad | Morning |
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| 05:54.43 | Shirik | hi sylvanaar_ipad |
| 05:54.57 | sylvanaar_ipad | Hi Shirik |
| 05:55.38 | sylvanaar_ipad | I can't sleep...how about you |
| 05:56.23 | Shirik | it's only 11 here |
| 05:56.59 | Shirik | however I can make it so you REALLY won't go to sleep |
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| 05:57.30 | sylvanaar_ipad | How |
| 05:58.25 | sylvanaar_ipad | I have pancake power |
| 05:58.30 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ2E7FT1LtI&feature=related |
| 05:58.46 | sylvanaar_ipad | That better not be Friday... |
| 05:58.51 | Shirik | lol no |
| 06:00.13 | sylvanaar_ipad | Lol |
| 06:00.41 | sylvanaar_ipad | Disturbing |
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| 06:09.47 | bleeter | what's the go with fox.com? is it a video on demand site or more cable oriented? |
| 06:11.15 | airtonix | sigh |
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| 06:25.38 | bleeter | nm |
| 06:30.37 | Wobin | http://storify.com/hawaii/sean-powers-laptop-recovered the power of prey and twitter =P |
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| 06:36.41 | mikma | cairenn: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/223284_220347204643277_182702971741034_945945_8007109_n.jpg |
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| 06:36.58 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:38.46 | nomulous | Anybody use !BugGrabber? I can't figure out how to look at bugs collected. |
| 06:46.48 | nomulous | Anyone? BugGrabber? |
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| 06:48.50 | zenzio | not familiar with that one. With !Swatter I believe there's the /swatter command to bring it up, did you try /bug<tab> to see if it registered a slash command? |
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| 06:53.08 | AcidWeb | ./buggrabber |
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| 07:02.58 | nomulous | Yeah, I did. BugGrabber exists, but when I use /buggrabber is says Usage: /buggrabber <0-1> and I'm not sure what that means |
| 07:03.51 | AcidWeb | Try /buggrabber 0 |
| 07:03.57 | nomulous | I did, nothing. |
| 07:04.16 | nomulous | I tried, 0, 1, 0-1, <0>, <1>, <0-1>, etc. |
| 07:04.22 | nomulous | Just says the same message |
| 07:04.38 | AcidWeb | "Without a display addon like BugSack, !BugGrabber will simply print captured bugs to the standard chat frame." |
| 07:04.55 | AcidWeb | so /buggrabber 0 only turn it on |
| 07:04.58 | AcidWeb | * /buggrabber 1 |
| 07:05.15 | nomulous | Where did you find that? |
| 07:05.25 | AcidWeb | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bug-grabber.aspx |
| 07:05.50 | nomulous | Thanks :) |
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| 07:23.29 | airtonix | Adys: mercurial sucks |
| 07:23.39 | airtonix | :< |
| 07:23.41 | Adys | yep |
| 07:24.21 | airtonix | "hi you're trying to merge a remote with local and so i'm going to force you to use vim LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL, problem officer?" |
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| 07:26.38 | AcidWeb | Whats wrong with Vim? :> |
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| 07:28.30 | airtonix | nothing as long as i don't have to use it |
| 07:33.57 | Corrodias | that's what SHE said |
| 07:34.55 | zenzio | airtonix: doesn't it listen to EDITOR (or VISUAL) like other utilites do? |
| 07:34.56 | industrial | vim > * |
| 07:35.23 | airtonix | no |
| 07:35.32 | airtonix | it uses vim -d as the merge tool |
| 07:35.41 | industrial | so use DiffeMerge instead ? |
| 07:36.39 | airtonix | when did you suggest that ? |
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| 07:36.48 | airtonix | or was it just now in sarcasim? |
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| 07:56.27 | Maldivia | http://i.imgur.com/S0UZQ.jpg -- perkele indeed |
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| 08:14.54 | airtonix | meanwhile in finland |
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| 08:26.10 | airtonix | screw this , i'm just going to start a git repo for this |
| 08:26.15 | airtonix | sick of hg |
| 08:26.34 | Maldivia | heh |
| 08:28.05 | industrial | Maldivia: lmao @ perkele |
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| 08:50.49 | Nefarion | huhu all :) |
| 08:52.54 | airtonix | omfg... these noobs have put psgl database dumps inside the hg repository |
| 08:53.03 | airtonix | yay now the repo is 500mb + |
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| 09:00.15 | Nefarion | XD |
| 09:00.53 | Nefarion | some1 can recommend me a lua editor with something like IntelliSense? |
| 09:02.03 | Arrowmaster | Nefarion: find sylvanaar's intellj or whatever its called one |
| 09:26.44 | airtonix | Nefarion: use vim |
| 09:26.53 | airtonix | apparently it's awesome |
| 09:27.14 | mikma | 11:59 <aperson> may your dreams be filled of vaginas with balloons blown up in them |
| 09:27.40 | airtonix | so anyway |
| 09:29.41 | industrial | >_O |
| 09:30.34 | industrial | Nefarion: there's a plugin for vim but I think youll want IntelliJ IDEA with lua plugin. |
| 09:40.05 | Nefarion | great, thx guys :) |
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| 10:13.33 | olafski | sounds fun mikma |
| 10:16.55 | Nefarion | again a stupid question... in CreateFrame("frameType"[, "frameName"[, parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]]]); where do i get that "inheritsFrame" from? |
| 10:22.16 | Grum | its another 'frameName' from an earlier created frame |
| 10:22.33 | Nefarion | great thx :) |
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| 11:02.06 | zenzio | "Players are once again free to dance in combat (without causing graphic errors). Other animations, such as attacks, will take precedence over dancing. The dance animation will be suppressed until the higher priority animation is complete. Fun has been unnerfed" |
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| 11:37.04 | mikma | cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/1YRVF.jpg |
| 11:37.31 | Cairenn | unh hunh |
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| 11:48.11 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/84d0f2844ee57dc7509b4e3300870d96.jpg |
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| 12:29.23 | airtonix | mikma: oh dawg the resemblance. |
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| 12:44.25 | zenzio | lol... http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-pictures-travis-becomes-a-dog-person.jpg |
| 12:56.41 | jnwhiteh | Happy friday! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey-VNes5YQs |
| 12:56.45 | jnwhiteh | (not rebecca black) |
| 12:57.42 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: yeah thats pretty good |
| 12:58.46 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/05/iron-dwarf/ |
| 13:02.28 | mikma | jnwhiteh: fun fun fun |
| 13:03.41 | alestane | That song actually seems much better suited to the male voice. |
| 13:04.04 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM51ANnSgsU |
| 13:04.30 | mikma | alestane: THIS SEAT! http://ccadp.org/electric-chair.jpg |
| 13:04.30 | jnwhiteh | mikma: old. |
| 13:04.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 13:05.13 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i know :P |
| 13:06.57 | Kraps | http://www.hulu.com/watch/237560/glee-prom-queen#s-p1-so-i0 25 minutes in |
| 13:12.08 | Kraps | hey this episode has "jar of hearts" |
| 13:12.13 | Kraps | awesome |
| 13:13.39 | Kraps | kinda depressing to sing at a prom o_O |
| 13:15.06 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: there's a plot point that makes it work =) |
| 13:15.25 | Kraps | i'm sure |
| 13:15.30 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFWX0hWCbng <- lol what the ... fuck? |
| 13:15.52 | Mr_Rabies | more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE |
| 13:15.55 | jnwhiteh | best video ever. |
| 13:16.02 | mikma | gets better at 2:00 |
| 13:19.31 | Adys | what the fuck is taking kde so long to switch all their projects to git |
| 13:19.39 | Adys | the large ones i can understand.. vaguely |
| 13:19.42 | Adys | but the small ones =/ |
| 13:19.43 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh :) |
| 13:19.52 | jnwhiteh | hey Fisker |
| 13:20.02 | Fisker | noty.jpg btw |
| 13:20.37 | Fisker | actually |
| 13:20.40 | Fisker | that one is much better :O |
| 13:24.13 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: i like that song, it reminds me of nightclubs that are only lit by strobe lights, where everyone is on ecstasy and no one would notice if someone dropped dead |
| 13:26.41 | Adys | ok this is a first |
| 13:26.44 | Adys | im debugging flash |
| 13:26.59 | Adys | and this stupid $~@! POS works better when composition is on |
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| 13:28.33 | Kraps | that was @ mikma |
| 13:28.36 | Kraps | ... |
| 13:28.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yet another reason to hate nightclubs, Kraps. |
| 13:28.47 | Kraps | lol |
| 13:30.22 | harl | [hey] |
| 13:34.19 | Lopeppeppy | [horse] |
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| 14:15.40 | jnwhiteh | thanks for blocking my account Blizzard |
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| 14:16.08 | Lopeppeppy | Uh oh.... |
| 14:16.12 | jnwhiteh | this is rediculous. |
| 14:16.53 | Lopeppeppy | What the hell happened? |
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| 14:17.49 | jnwhiteh | no idea |
| 14:17.56 | jnwhiteh | I tried to login from the office ,which I've done before. |
| 14:18.07 | jnwhiteh | now I can't even get through the 'I think I forgot my password' screen. |
| 14:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | unhappy. I hope it's some tech error on their part, and not an account thing they did. Ugh. |
| 14:19.37 | airtonix | hey Fiske, want to join me ? |
| 14:19.41 | jnwhiteh | got in now. |
| 14:19.44 | jnwhiteh | to reset |
| 14:20.48 | airtonix | Adys: i would expect that |
| 14:22.06 | airtonix | ruhroh : 2011-05-12 23:15:52 [WARNING] airtonix moved wrongly! |
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| 14:35.26 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 14:35.35 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 14:35.38 | Fisker | that's standard |
| 14:35.46 | jnwhiteh | ohai |
| 14:36.22 | Fisker | i want my eee pad soon :( |
| 14:36.33 | Fisker | still 10 days until they probably push back the date |
| 14:36.59 | Adys | why is compositing so bad on kde =/ |
| 14:37.19 | Maldivia | then fix it |
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| 14:56.55 | Fisker | oh nos jnwhiteh |
| 14:58.17 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 14:59.10 | Fisker | :( |
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| 15:11.31 | Lunessa | station |
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| 15:15.14 | Lopeppeppy | Hola, Lunessa. |
| 15:15.24 | Lunessa | Shalom, Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:18.50 | TC-Laptop | anyone know of a company that makes standalone SAN's eg. not rackmount |
| 15:19.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ca va, Lunessa. |
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| 15:33.24 | Dagmar | TC-Laptop: Surely you guys can afford a 3" rack to put something in |
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| 15:33.50 | TC-Laptop | Dagmar: it's not the cost, it's the space |
| 15:34.06 | TC-Laptop | there is already 2 rackmounts all full up |
| 15:34.36 | Dagmar | So you want what? 16Tb of SAN storage that fits in a pack of breath mints? |
| 15:34.53 | Dagmar | Disclaimer: I technically work in a datacenter |
| 15:35.02 | Dagmar | s/Disclaimer/Full Disclosure/ |
| 15:35.08 | TC-Laptop | no, but a non-rackmount one would be nice |
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| 15:35.25 | Dagmar | It won't really make them take up less space, man |
| 15:35.55 | TC-Laptop | different spacial size |
| 15:36.31 | Dagmar | The majority of the stuff like that that I've seen amounts to they put it in their own branded half-rack, and then there's the "underpowered for SOHO" units |
| 15:36.45 | Dagmar | You probaly don't really want anything from that class |
| 15:36.56 | Dagmar | FIC boards and so forth inside em |
| 15:36.58 | airtonix | TC-Laptop: what about those qnaps |
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| 15:37.44 | TC-Laptop | Dagmar: and if thats the case then our clients are going to have to deal with it, but i still need to search |
| 15:38.05 | Dagmar | It's hella improper but you'd probably be better off finding out if you're allowed to just stick a 4U unit on *top* of your two racks |
| 15:38.08 | TC-Laptop | airtonix: NAS != SAN? |
| 15:38.19 | airtonix | oh |
| 15:38.35 | airtonix | Silly Albino Norwegian? |
| 15:38.42 | TC-Laptop | Dagmar: not in earthquake country |
| 15:38.48 | Dagmar | Oh lol |
| 15:39.17 | Dagmar | I bet you're actually using hte front screws that keep the equipment from sliding out on it's rails then. :) |
| 15:39.33 | TC-Laptop | quite |
| 15:39.40 | TC-Laptop | and major tiedowns on the racks |
| 15:40.01 | Dagmar | airtonix: They're two totally different advertising types, man. How could you possibly get them confused?!? |
| 15:40.13 | airtonix | it's marketing now? |
| 15:40.35 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 15:40.45 | Dagmar | They're both just a large pile of disks attached to yer network |
| 15:40.46 | airtonix | what are you selling? |
| 15:40.56 | Dagmar | We've had salesmen in here actually selling both under either name |
| 15:41.08 | Dagmar | Storage Area Network, or Network Attached Storage |
| 15:41.25 | airtonix | you've got a disclaimer on your front door yet? |
| 15:41.42 | airtonix | "no hawkers or IT salespeople that can't differentiate between NAS and SAN |
| 15:42.00 | Dagmar | No point |
| 15:42.02 | airtonix | or canaries trafficking coconuts" |
| 15:42.06 | Lunessa | I do, It says "I can only assist a limited number of people each day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look so good either." |
| 15:42.17 | Dagmar | It's all just buzzwords that the guys building the equipment don't really are much about |
| 15:42.21 | airtonix | "what's that? |
| 15:42.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm just going with "fuck off" today, Lunessa. |
| 15:42.26 | Dagmar | NAS generally handles files. |
| 15:42.27 | airtonix | you want me to delete your email? |
| 15:42.29 | airtonix | ok |
| 15:42.46 | Dagmar | ...but fundamentally we're still basically talking about the same thing for either. |
| 15:43.09 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: There are days when I wish I could mount a death-ray on my desk. |
| 15:43.18 | Dagmar | A bit of software reconfiguraiton and your SAN box becomes NAS, and vice-versa |
| 15:43.30 | alestane | Keeps the squirrels off the feeder. |
| 15:43.34 | Dagmar | Only in rare spots in the animal kingdom (and a few 18+ websites) do changes happen like that |
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| 15:44.14 | Dagmar | We've one rack of stuff htta does both. |
| 15:44.25 | Dagmar | You can partition out some of hte disks and provide iSCSI access to them |
| 15:44.41 | Dagmar | ...and otherwise all the rest are NFS/SMB/AFS access |
| 15:45.48 | Fisker | it's garbage day |
| 15:45.55 | Fisker | why would anyone want a 2TB SAN? |
| 15:46.07 | Dagmar | TC-Laptop: You can always suggest to the boss that you guys get a bunch of netbooks with 250Gb drives in them, and just ducttape them all over the outside of the racks. ;) |
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| 15:46.27 | Dagmar | Fisker: Because they bought an Apple and that's what the Apple Store sells. |
| 15:46.36 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:46.41 | alestane | Colds suck it. |
| 15:46.51 | Fisker | i want one of them there macs with irreplacable harddrives |
| 15:46.56 | Dagmar | ...and those are NAs. |
| 15:47.05 | Dagmar | Isn't acronym tango fun? |
| 15:47.08 | Fisker | i believe the police here use mac minis for servers btw |
| 15:47.35 | Fisker | oh technically not |
| 15:47.39 | Fisker | they're just driving the displays |
| 15:47.41 | Fisker | http://www.computerworld.dk/fil/34126/400 |
| 15:47.44 | Fisker | macfags ftl |
| 15:48.03 | Zyn | good use of space |
| 15:48.04 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 15:48.46 | Fisker | i don't even get why their workstations need 2 Graphics Cards and a RAID-5 Redundancy |
| 15:48.58 | airtonix | Fisker: so they just install basecamp to get infected? |
| 15:49.04 | DWSR | For cron, if I want a job to run every other minute, it's */2 * * * *? |
| 15:49.12 | DWSR | Or */30 * * * *? |
| 15:49.16 | Fisker | they don't have to airtonix |
| 15:49.26 | Dagmar | */2 |
| 15:49.34 | Dagmar | Cron runs every minute. |
| 15:49.50 | Dagmar | If it ran every second, that would be a bit much... and probably really piss off the guy who wrote `at` |
| 15:50.40 | Dagmar | Fisker: You sure they odn't just have two monitor outputs (which is fairly common now) and not actually two graphics ... wait... |
| 15:50.43 | Dagmar | I'm remembering something about that |
| 15:51.07 | Dagmar | @#$@ there's a reason a lot of macs have two *different* graphics chipsets in them, but I can't remember wtf is was |
| 15:51.15 | airtonix | MAID |
| 15:51.27 | Fisker | Dagmar they say 2 graphics cards in the article |
| 15:51.32 | Fisker | and i simply don't get it |
| 15:51.50 | Fisker | 8GB RAM(Which can be excused), 2xGraphics Cards, 3x1TB in Raid-5 |
| 15:51.50 | Dagmar | now I remmeber |
| 15:52.08 | Fisker | and they only get used for their monitoring systems |
| 15:52.12 | Fisker | as well as some security lookups |
| 15:52.16 | Dagmar | One's usually integrated (like what you'd get on a cheap-ass mobo) and is used to save power |
| 15:52.33 | Dagmar | The other one is a beefier more desktop-style full-featured graphics chipset |
| 15:52.45 | Dagmar | ...for when it's plugge din and you're watching a movie while playing WoW |
| 15:52.45 | Fisker | well can't say for sure |
| 15:52.53 | Fisker | but it does just specify "2 graphics cards" |
| 15:53.05 | Dagmar | IIRC they work together in a manner similar to SLI |
| 15:53.11 | Fisker | but then again i've been told to get computers with 2 graphics cards a lot of times :D |
| 15:53.20 | Fisker | and everytime they mean 2 outputs of course |
| 15:53.40 | Fisker | but given this is a pretty tech oriented site i can't imagine it's that |
| 15:54.37 | Dagmar | Most geeks wouldn't call that two graphics cards... it's more like 1.5 |
| 15:55.23 | Dagmar | OKay yeah I'm looking at a spec sheet over here saying this model has an nVidia 9400M and a 9600GT |
| 15:55.44 | Dagmar | One of those two would work great for sitting at a cafe browsing the web, and the other can actually play WoW pretty well |
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| 15:58.08 | Dagmar | ...as to the reest... "@#$#@$ cops" |
| 16:00.09 | alestane | Grounding Totem += [Profit Sharing] |
| 16:00.26 | Adys | god |
| 16:00.32 | Adys | looking at some of the gnome python apps |
| 16:00.43 | Adys | it just breaks my heart =( |
| 16:01.16 | Adys | it's like some people try to write code that looks like undigested shit on purpose |
| 16:01.41 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/osama-bin-laden-used-flash-thumb-drives-for-emails <-u stoopid |
| 16:06.44 | airtonix | Adys: umadbro |
| 16:06.56 | Adys | very |
| 16:06.56 | airtonix | or are you mad bro |
| 16:07.30 | airtonix | sorry to busy thinking how awesome i am to care about neat code |
| 16:07.46 | airtonix | <faceroll> |
| 16:09.19 | Adys | too* |
| 16:09.42 | Adys | uhg and whats up with kde |
| 16:09.48 | Adys | with their custom cmake modules |
| 16:09.50 | Adys | fuck it |
| 16:11.41 | Adys | airtonix: http://dpaste.com/542094/ |
| 16:12.03 | Adys | it's like the guy has an advertising deal with HashComms Int. |
| 16:12.05 | airtonix | haha |
| 16:12.31 | airtonix | people should learn to use python proplerly |
| 16:12.34 | Kraps | i'm now coder and even i know thats too many hashes |
| 16:12.40 | Kraps | no* |
| 16:12.46 | Adys | what is this, typo day? |
| 16:13.09 | Kraps | its friday! funfunfunfun! |
| 16:13.43 | airtonix | one of the requirements for people to work at our place is that they can cite something from the python pep style guide without being prompted |
| 16:13.46 | Fisker | friday! |
| 16:13.54 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:14.04 | Fisker | looks like the postal services started stalking me now |
| 16:14.04 | Adys | airtonix: im getting rid of kmix on my system |
| 16:14.10 | Fisker | they just emailed me about some packages |
| 16:14.11 | Adys | coding a quick pyside app |
| 16:14.16 | Fisker | i never gave them my email :( |
| 16:14.25 | Adys | Fisker: maybe you did and you forgot |
| 16:15.23 | airtonix | Adys: the imports section here : http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ |
| 16:15.40 | airtonix | i'm ocd about that |
| 16:15.47 | Fisker | nope Adys |
| 16:16.27 | airtonix | especially that 1,2,3 order |
| 16:16.51 | Adys | airtonix: http://dpaste.com/542095/ |
| 16:17.02 | Adys | my templates/python.py |
| 16:18.21 | airtonix | thanks |
| 16:18.32 | Adys | for? |
| 16:18.44 | Adys | being more awesome than you? you dont have to thank me for that you know |
| 16:19.21 | airtonix | it's ok, your basque |
| 16:19.27 | airtonix | or something |
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| 16:25.29 | airtonix | :< |
| 16:25.44 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 16:25.45 | Fisker | give me |
| 16:25.49 | airtonix | does kde print dialog have "print to file"? |
| 16:25.55 | airtonix | like gnome does |
| 16:25.59 | Fisker | sure |
| 16:26.35 | airtonix | i wish firefox and chrome would auto fill in the pdf filename to print to with the html title of the page i'm turning into a pdf |
| 16:26.56 | Fisker | no |
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| 16:41.05 | Fisker | LOL |
| 16:41.19 | Fisker | this guy is calling blizzard racist for not having servers in africa |
| 16:41.36 | Fisker | then when we call him out on it he says he means "racist for not answering the question" not "colour racist" |
| 16:41.37 | Fisker | wat. |
| 16:41.38 | Fisker | WAT. |
| 16:41.45 | nomulous | Is there any way to get a UI_Object_UIDropDownMenu not to close when you click a button? To execute it's func and stay open? |
| 16:41.47 | Dagmar | Airtonix: Mebbe update PDFCreator |
| 16:42.48 | Kraps | Fisker: saying wat is racist |
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| 16:45.11 | Kraps | "When Tom was out at BioWare’s Edmonton office last month, executive producer Casey Hudson confirmed that our favourite Quarian, Tali’Zorah vas Normandy, would return as a full-time squadmate. The obvious next question: would Wrex?" |
| 16:45.40 | Kraps | no? the obvious next question is: would Garrus |
| 16:47.02 | airtonix | calibrating |
| 16:48.59 | Kraps | wrex i a cool guy and all but its really garrus and tali |
| 16:49.18 | Fisker | wat Kraps |
| 16:50.14 | Lunessa | It's things like this that make me believe there is still greatness in the world: http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/may/13/gene-wolfe-hero-neil-gaiman-sf |
| 16:51.45 | Kraps | wat wat in teh butt Fisker |
| 16:52.53 | Fisker | no Kraps |
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| 16:56.50 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 16:56.53 | Fisker | not so hey cog|work :( |
| 16:57.00 | nomulous | So I figured out how to do it, with keepShownOnClick, but now when I click a button in the menu, everything gets unchecked and it stays that way until the menu closes... can anybody help? |
| 16:57.49 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/#!/THE_Trollface/status/69077186568658945 |
| 16:58.20 | DWSR | Any Python devs around? |
| 16:58.28 | DWSR | Have a question regarding how to handle regex in python |
| 16:58.49 | nomulous | I have some experience, what's up? |
| 16:59.58 | Dagmar | Is it a python question or a regex question... Better to just ask it |
| 17:00.12 | DWSR | nomulous: Is re global by default? |
| 17:00.26 | DWSR | Or does it depend on if I use re.search() vs. re.match()? |
| 17:00.51 | Cide | read the documentation? |
| 17:01.11 | DWSR | Cide: Which incredibly doesn't tell me what I need to know. |
| 17:01.13 | DWSR | Or I'm missing it. |
| 17:01.13 | nomulous | Not sure what you mean. You have to import it as it isn't built in.. |
| 17:01.28 | nomulous | But what do you mean is re global? |
| 17:01.40 | DWSR | nomulous: How much regex do you know? |
| 17:01.48 | DWSR | Because I don't know how to explain this other than in that context. |
| 17:02.13 | DWSR | I want to know, if I pass Python "([^, \r]+)" will it treat it as /([^, \r]+)/ or /([^, \r]+)/g? |
| 17:02.51 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 17:02.56 | Fisker | should i try out the rift trial? |
| 17:03.03 | nomulous | Ah, I see what you mean now. I thought you mean global as in variable scope. But of course the easiest thing would be just to test it... |
| 17:03.37 | DWSR | nomulous: And if I had python installed, or even knew python, I would. |
| 17:03.52 | nomulous | Why would you care if you neither have it installed nor knew it? |
| 17:03.54 | DWSR | But I'm just trying to configure a piece of software that's written in python. |
| 17:04.27 | Cide | you want findall if you want all occurences |
| 17:04.42 | nomulous | Well, best to ask in #python I guess |
| 17:05.03 | DWSR | Cide: Yeah, but will that return multiple capture groups if appropriate? |
| 17:05.23 | Cide | Return all non-overlapping matches of pattern in string, as a list of strings. The string is scanned left-to-right, and matches are returned in the order found. If one or more groups are present in the pattern, return a list of groups; this will be a list of tuples if the pattern has more than one group. |
| 17:05.51 | Fisker | Cide |
| 17:05.51 | Cide | you also have finditer which yields matchobject instances |
| 17:06.02 | Cide | now I'm going to do more fun things than read documentation |
| 17:07.27 | Fisker | Cide |
| 17:07.45 | Fisker | you jelly Cide ? |
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| 17:15.01 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/13/dont-be-lonely-diablo-iiis-followers/ |
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| 17:21.14 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 17:21.15 | Fisker | it's old |
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| 17:26.40 | Adys | youtube down? |
| 17:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/youtube.com |
| 17:27.40 | jnwhiteh | It's not just you! http://youtube.com looks down from here |
| 17:27.41 | jnwhiteh | lulz. |
| 17:27.42 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:27.43 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:27.45 | Fisker | stop jnwhiteh |
| 17:27.53 | jnwhiteh | no u. |
| 17:27.55 | jnwhiteh | HoN anyone? |
| 17:30.34 | Fisker | what about brink jnwhiteh ? |
| 17:33.37 | jnwhiteh | no u |
| 17:33.51 | jnwhiteh | HTC received my phone no Tuesday |
| 17:33.51 | jnwhiteh | We are currently testing your phone. |
| 17:33.55 | jnwhiteh | the power button doesn' twork |
| 17:34.02 | jnwhiteh | how much do you want to bet they're trying to figure out how to turn it on. |
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| 17:39.18 | Kraps | http://io9.com/5801462/why-the-world-will-end-on-may-21 |
| 17:47.16 | cog|work | http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/05/11/german-tv-confuses-star-trek-terrorists-bin-laden/ |
| 17:48.07 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001EN71CW/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=bkgas-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399349&creativeASIN=B001EN71CW |
| 17:48.34 | Kraps | wow cog|work |
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| 18:04.04 | Adys | cog|work: i dont watch star trek; what happened? |
| 18:04.27 | cog|work | you don't have to... the article explains it well enough |
| 18:04.52 | Adys | i read it but i tend not to trust articles coming from foxnews :P |
| 18:05.42 | Adys | also i cant find that emblem on the page linked |
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| 18:07.57 | cog|work | wtf... http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_ec169697-a19e-525f-a532-81b3df229697.html |
| 18:08.08 | cog|work | In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry. |
| 18:08.25 | Adys | sounds totally legitimate |
| 18:08.48 | Adys | "if I want to enter, i need a reason, and if I don't have one it's fine too!" |
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| 18:23.13 | karl_w_w | why play hon instead of dota jnwhiteh? |
| 18:26.01 | Kraps | http://blastr.com/2011/05/uh-oh-those-controversial.php |
| 18:30.22 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: because it runs natively on my machine and is easy? |
| 18:33.02 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 18:34.06 | Fisker | i hate it when Blizzard are question racists |
| 18:37.48 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/104100/ jnwhiteh |
| 18:39.50 | potatoe | lemme guess, they don't respond to trolls? |
| 18:49.21 | TC-Laptop | if i have a column in a table in sql, whats the string to replace every value in that column with another one? |
| 18:50.58 | Fisker | no potatoe |
| 18:51.03 | Fisker | that would be regular racism |
| 18:51.08 | Fisker | this is question racism i'm talking about |
| 18:51.51 | cog|work | update table set colname = newvalue; |
| 18:51.59 | cog|work | iirc |
| 18:52.25 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 18:52.31 | Fisker | remeber to test on a live database TC-Laptop |
| 18:52.52 | Fisker | don't you agree cog|work ? |
| 18:52.57 | cog|work | idd |
| 18:53.37 | Fisker | hey |
| 18:53.41 | Fisker | can i minecraft with you? |
| 18:54.05 | cog|work | checks his whitelist |
| 18:54.07 | cog|work | nope |
| 18:54.32 | TC-Laptop | cog|work: that will change all of them? |
| 18:54.36 | Fisker | i don't like you |
| 18:54.50 | cog|work | TC-Laptop: yep. you can add a WHERE clause to narrow it down otherwise it'll do every row |
| 18:55.19 | cog|work | http://www.w3schools.com/sql/sql_update.asp |
| 18:55.26 | Lunessa | Dear Deific Being or Beings who May or May Not Exist - Why the fuck am I teaching college professors how to calculate a percentage? |
| 18:55.27 | Fisker | what about a santa clause lol? |
| 18:56.27 | potatoe | because they are english professors? |
| 18:56.48 | potatoe | "i don't get that math stuff, lol" |
| 18:58.11 | Lunessa | This particular professor teaches in Humanities, but still... |
| 18:58.52 | potatoe | use it or lose it |
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| 19:02.32 | TC-Laptop | thanks cog|work |
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| 19:10.16 | foxlit | eep, source control failure :( |
| 19:10.33 | foxlit | I ended up overwriting some code that I could actually use :( |
| 19:11.47 | karl_w_w | lua> print(not true and false or false) print(not true and false or true) |
| 19:11.47 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: false, true |
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| 19:12.06 | foxlit | not binds stronger than and binds stronger than or |
| 19:14.28 | karl_w_w | lua> not false and false or true |
| 19:14.29 | lua_bot | karl_w_w: true |
| 19:14.31 | karl_w_w | ok |
| 19:19.47 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 19:19.58 | foxlit | hi Fiskerer. |
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| 19:26.17 | Fisker | why foxlit ? |
| 19:28.35 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/wGYAI.jpg |
| 19:29.05 | Adys | this code is horrible |
| 19:29.07 | Adys | ugh |
| 19:29.30 | Adys | not so much the functionality nor the design; it just actually looks like shit |
| 19:32.23 | foxlit | So um, this. |
| 19:32.46 | foxlit | I originally had code to read the determine the format of a BLP, presumably without parsing the actual image. |
| 19:32.52 | foxlit | I can no longer see how I accomplished that :( |
| 19:33.24 | Adys | the format as in? identify the blp or mime magic? |
| 19:34.07 | foxlit | image dimensions, compression scheme. |
| 19:34.21 | Adys | isn't it header data? |
| 19:34.26 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/pilgrim/blob/master/pilgrim/codecs/blp.py |
| 19:34.32 | foxlit | Well, partly, but I don't read it that way. |
| 19:34.59 | foxlit | Maybe I hacked that in. |
| 19:35.09 | Adys | see lines 129-133 |
| 19:35.53 | foxlit | meh, file->read(file, &header); for me |
| 19:36.03 | foxlit | But the thing is there's logic decoding those values to a format name |
| 19:36.21 | foxlit | And in my code, that logic follows image decoding, verifying that the mipmaps are of the expected size. |
| 19:39.06 | foxlit | So I can't figure out what I did before -- decoding the image seems pointless if I'm only interested in the metadata, but it doesn't seem like there's an obvious shortcut. |
| 19:40.38 | karl_w_w | anyone know what happens if you pass a nil value to CombatLog_Object_IsA(), does it complain or just return false? |
| 19:40.49 | Gnarfoz | !api click |
| 19:40.50 | lua_bot | Found 28 possible matches for 'click'. Please be more specific |
| 19:40.55 | Gnarfoz | !api RegisterForClicks |
| 19:40.55 | lua_bot | Button:RegisterForClicks: Registers a button to receive mouse clicks (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Button/RegisterForClicks) |
| 19:41.18 | potatoe | !api |
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| 19:45.13 | Adys | Cide: PINGPINGPINGPINGPING |
| 19:46.01 | Fisker | Cide |
| 19:46.05 | Fisker | adys is pinging you |
| 19:46.11 | Adys | no he's not |
| 19:47.02 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 19:47.34 | cog|work | Fisker is now playing Brink |
| 19:51.51 | industrial | thats what Fskers mom said last night |
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| 19:52.19 | Adys | Shirik: WHY DOES THIS GOOGLE QUERY WORK: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=list+of+breath+mints |
| 19:52.22 | Cide | Adys: hi |
| 19:52.39 | Adys | hi Cide |
| 19:52.41 | Adys | ever used cython? |
| 19:52.45 | Kraps | that was win: I was in heaven, and they pulled me out of there" |
| 19:52.52 | industrial | adys no. |
| 19:52.52 | Adys | also lol |
| 19:52.54 | industrial | no. |
| 19:52.57 | Cide | no |
| 19:53.00 | industrial | pypy. |
| 19:53.00 | Adys | i just realized i saw this wikipedia page before |
| 19:53.12 | Adys | industrial: what about pypy? |
| 19:53.23 | industrial | its betterer |
| 19:53.32 | Adys | than cpython no doubt |
| 19:53.37 | Adys | but its cython im interested in |
| 19:53.40 | Adys | the bindings generator |
| 19:53.43 | industrial | ow lal |
| 19:53.57 | industrial | im stoned sorry :( |
| 19:54.05 | Adys | throws stones on industrial |
| 19:54.27 | industrial | sticks and stones adys |
| 19:54.34 | industrial | u frgt sticks |
| 19:55.02 | industrial | :C |
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| 20:05.48 | Adys | why the fuck do small libs decide to ship HUGE libs in a compat module when they decide to use something that's only in a recent version of python? |
| 20:05.55 | Adys | it's the distro's job dammit |
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| 20:13.23 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 20:13.38 | foxlit | "Warning: unreferenced parameter" |
| 20:13.44 | foxlit | Okay, who thought that was a good idea? |
| 20:13.46 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 20:13.56 | Fisker | k |
| 20:14.26 | Fisker | http://vimeo.com/23155536 |
| 20:14.28 | Fisker | do it jnwhiteh |
| 20:19.12 | Fisker | http://barbara.guanabee.com/2011/05/brazilian-woman-wins-right-masturbate-work/ <-but when a guy does it, noooooooo it's sexual harassment :( |
| 20:22.36 | Fisker | Ackis |
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| 20:54.50 | karl_w_w | "List of breath mints is a list of breath mint brands:" lol |
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| 21:05.42 | foxlit | "Same. I related to Tobias a lot in those days, even with his terminal flaw." "you too are a hawk?" |
| 21:06.22 | Cide | hahaha |
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| 21:38.43 | Dagmar | Well... thta's what I get for Googling random phrases seen on IRC. |
| 21:38.48 | Dagmar | A screen full of furry. |
| 21:41.07 | Kraps | hmm, totalbiscuit seems to believe that esports is moving into the mainstream |
| 21:45.26 | alestane | So, if I have two divs, how can I position them next to each other so that the second one takes up all the width of the containing block NOT taken by the first one? |
| 21:48.08 | foxlit | Do you know how wide the divs are? |
| 21:48.18 | alestane | No. |
| 21:48.39 | alestane | Or rather, the first one will either be a given width, or empty. |
| 21:49.22 | alestane | And when it's empty, I want to collapse it so that the second one can have all the space. |
| 21:49.31 | Dagmar | You're going to need to start with 3ccs of mouse blood. |
| 21:49.58 | foxlit | float the left one within the right one |
| 21:50.07 | alestane | I tried setting them both to display:inline-block and their container to white-space:nowrap, but the second one had the full width of the container and ran off the edge. |
| 21:50.10 | wereHamster | alestane: float one of the divs left or right |
| 21:50.18 | foxlit | Though you're still kind of screwed since you'll need to define a width |
| 21:50.24 | foxlit | And once you define a width, you cannot collapse. |
| 21:50.29 | alestane | I don't want excess content in the second one to wrap under the first one, foxlit. |
| 21:50.40 | foxlit | In that case, use a table. |
| 21:50.49 | alestane | I was hoping to avoid that. |
| 21:51.01 | foxlit | I was hoping for a pony :( |
| 21:51.25 | alestane | I used a table on the old site and got the desired behavior, but I figured I should see if I could manage it with CSS. |
| 21:51.35 | Dagmar | You can. |
| 21:51.39 | foxlit | Or at least some mechanism to get my thumbnail provider unregistered when installing an update :( |
| 21:51.49 | Dagmar | Just don't expect it to behave properly 100% of the time in IE |
| 21:52.41 | Dagmar | Personally I think the w3c settled on a method of expanding elements that instead of working properly 100% of the time merely pissed off everyone equally. |
| 21:54.00 | cog|work | might have some luck with display: inline-table |
| 21:54.18 | alestane | Well, yes. I could apply table formatting to non-table elements. |
| 21:54.18 | Ackis | apparently I snore at night! :( |
| 21:55.24 | cog|work | or was it inline-block |
| 21:56.08 | alestane | I'm using inline-block now, cog|work. It *almost* works. |
| 21:56.28 | alestane | But you can see the result at http://ontillmorning-entertainment.com/genjitsugames.com/offerings |
| 21:56.44 | Ackis | I had a sleep test about two weeks ago, and it said I snored 3742 ties over 7.4 hours |
| 21:56.46 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:57.03 | Ackis | lua> 3742 / (7.4 * 60) |
| 21:57.04 | lua_bot | Ackis: 8.4279279279279 |
| 21:57.23 | Dagmar | The good news is your background aligns to the right hand edge of the screen |
| 21:58.41 | alestane | That's because it's on the body, not the content. |
| 21:59.27 | foxlit | You know, you could use display: inline instead of display: inline-block on your content div |
| 21:59.57 | cog|work | foxlit: the content would flow underneath the sidebar then, wouldn't it? |
| 22:00.35 | foxlit | cog|work: it does not appear to do that. |
| 22:01.35 | alestane | foxlit, I don't know WHY that works (which makes me uneasy), but it appears to work. |
| 22:02.02 | foxlit | Your table stays out of the way of your float |
| 22:02.09 | alestane | I should take a look at it in IE and see if it explodes. |
| 22:02.41 | cog|work | yeah, the fact that you have a table inside that div is the reason it's not wrapping under the sidebar |
| 22:03.06 | alestane | Oh, right...the CMS is auto-wrapping the article content in a table. |
| 22:03.31 | Kraps | http://www.g4tv.com/videos/52692/the-mmo-report-after-dark |
| 22:04.25 | alestane | I suppose that works well enough. |
| 22:07.56 | cog|work | <3 chrome dev tools |
| 22:09.05 | alestane | I was forgetting the fact that Joomla! has its own notions of how to present content; for instance, wrapping your article list in a table. |
| 22:10.12 | Dagmar | Because no one ever said that using a logical container to force a layout was a bad thing. |
| 22:10.19 | foxlit | Gr. |
| 22:10.22 | Dagmar | heh |
| 22:10.35 | Dagmar | I've seen sites ranting about it that did it |
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| 22:19.26 | nomulous | Can someone reproduce this bug I found? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522463631 |
| 22:21.07 | Kraps | http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/05/10/activision-blizzard-rift-players-will-come-back-to-wow |
| 22:21.27 | Dagmar | "We've added new purples!" |
| 22:21.58 | BlackNet | i dunno about that |
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| 22:22.16 | BlackNet | the realm i am on use to be 'high' population, now it' medium at best |
| 22:23.47 | Kraps | theres always an initial burst of players near the beginning |
| 22:24.18 | Dagmar | ...and some not-so-near. I was thinking about it a few nights ago when I was drunk and bored |
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| 22:25.13 | Fisker | what the fuck are you Kraps ? |
| 22:25.32 | Kraps | i am your father |
| 22:26.45 | cog|work | nomulous: my guess is blizzard code is responding to MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING and assuming the open dropdown menu is its own |
| 22:27.19 | cog|work | you can confirm it yourself if you look through FrameXML code (i didn't see MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING in my quick search through the minimap code) |
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| 22:28.30 | cog|work | (and i don't have the code extracted on my machine to grep) |
| 22:28.59 | harl | gn8i |
| 22:29.21 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 22:29.42 | foxlit | There was a windows utility that'd let you drag a file into its window and it would check what sort of shell extensions actually worked for that file type |
| 22:29.51 | foxlit | I cannot remember what it was called :( |
| 22:31.07 | Kraps | Fisker: of course ther are the SW:TOR humpers |
| 22:31.15 | Kraps | they make me lol |
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| 22:45.20 | nomulous | cog|work: Hey, that sounds plausible, but where do I get the UI source? |
| 22:46.13 | alestane | ~framexml |
| 22:46.13 | purl | [framexml] Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 22:46.57 | nomulous | Thanks, alestane. Did anybody check out the bug? |
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| 22:52.29 | cog|work | i think i made no one want to until you investigate what i suggested :> |
| 22:56.06 | foxlit | curse you, explorer! |
| 22:56.35 | foxlit | I can't seem to force it to unload a shell extension in order to update it :( |
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| 22:59.23 | Ackis | any tech support greens here? |
| 23:04.12 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not a tech support green, however i'm awesome, does that count |
| 23:04.29 | nomulous | cog|work: I found that UIDropDownMenu_Refresh(MiniMapTrackingDropDown) is called when MINIMAP_UPDATE_TRACKING goes off. I guess that's it? |
| 23:05.48 | cog|work | i'd put my money on it |
| 23:06.55 | nomulous | So can you think of any way I could stop it from happening? |
| 23:07.47 | cog|work | well, blizzard code should probably be doing sanity checks, so it's definitely a bug. |
| 23:08.13 | cog|work | you could work around it by adding some code that deregesters that event when the minimap tracking menu is closed |
| 23:08.26 | cog|work | and re-registers it when it's open |
| 23:08.28 | cog|work | or something like that |
| 23:08.54 | cog|work | i'd look deeper into UIDropDownMenu_Refresh to see exactly what it does |
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| 23:09.55 | nomulous | Hmm. Well since the addon I'm making replaces the minimap tracking button altogether, I could just disable it if I knew how. |
| 23:10.50 | cog|work | just deregister the event entirely then |
| 23:11.19 | nomulous | Alright, I'll see if I can figure out how to do that. Thanks for your help! |
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| 23:11.58 | cog|work | !api UnregisterEvent |
| 23:11.58 | lua_bot | Frame:UnregisterEvent: Unregisters the frame for an event (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/UnregisterEvent) |
| 23:12.32 | Ackis | http://i54.tinypic.com/2wgfwhe.jpg vs http://i56.tinypic.com/28buykp.jpg |
| 23:14.20 | nomulous | Ackis: What did you change there? |
| 23:14.56 | foxlit | Ackis: absolutely horrible font rendering? |
| 23:15.14 | Ackis | that's the difference between DX 9 and DX 11 on my system |
| 23:15.20 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 23:15.23 | Fisker | why do you hate me |
| 23:15.50 | foxlit | is the good one 11? |
| 23:16.01 | Fisker | look at the water |
| 23:16.02 | Fisker | guess |
| 23:16.12 | Ackis | DX 11 is the shitty one |
| 23:16.23 | cog|work | non-dx11 card? |
| 23:16.29 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522433735 |
| 23:16.35 | Fisker | anyway Ackis |
| 23:16.37 | Ackis | GTX 285 |
| 23:16.38 | Fisker | stop hating me please? |
| 23:16.48 | Fisker | derp Ackis :( |
| 23:16.55 | foxlit | "Page File: 2403MB used" |
| 23:16.57 | foxlit | mildly scary |
| 23:17.27 | Mr_Rabies | here's what wow looks like on my computer with DX11 |
| 23:17.29 | Fisker | i hate Microsoft's default pagefile |
| 23:17.30 | Ackis | not sure why, I have 6 gigs of ram |
| 23:17.43 | Fisker | wat. |
| 23:17.53 | Fisker | got a memory leak? |
| 23:18.05 | foxlit | Your graphics card also has a fancy Shared Memory: 2811 MB line. I wonder what that counts. |
| 23:18.23 | Ackis | this was from a fresh reboot fisker |
| 23:18.35 | Fisker | weird |
| 23:18.51 | cog|work | weren't the 400s the first DX11 cards? |
| 23:18.56 | Fisker | yus |
| 23:19.47 | Ackis | I thought it was all backwards compatible |
| 23:19.57 | Ackis | the 285 is a directx10 card iirc |
| 23:19.57 | cog|work | not if it's trying to use new features |
| 23:20.08 | Mr_Rabies | wth |
| 23:20.14 | Mr_Rabies | it's not letting me upload screenshots to the steam cloud |
| 23:20.24 | Ackis | so that's the problem then, my card is too old |
| 23:20.25 | cog|work | it's been that way since beta. |
| 23:20.34 | Ackis | excuse to get a new one right cog|work? |
| 23:20.37 | cog|work | yep |
| 23:20.56 | cog|work | that's a large part of the reason i have a gtx460 ;) |
| 23:21.05 | Mr_Rabies | i need to get a new one too |
| 23:21.06 | foxlit | " DDI Version: 10" |
| 23:21.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'm using a 260 with an i7 920 |
| 23:21.17 | Fisker | didn't even know you could force the D3D11 renderer without hardware support :o |
| 23:21.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty heavily gpu limited right now |
| 23:21.25 | Mr_Rabies | yes fisker |
| 23:21.29 | Mr_Rabies | and it has varying results |
| 23:21.37 | Mr_Rabies | such as: http://i.imgur.com/4ACbc.jpg |
| 23:21.51 | foxlit | WoW is weird for me |
| 23:21.56 | Cide | omg mario |
| 23:21.58 | Ackis | cog|work: that's what my fiancee has... I have an i7 920 too I belive |
| 23:22.00 | foxlit | Throwing more graphics hardware at it doesn't seem to help framerates much |
| 23:22.16 | Fisker | D3D11 is pretty neat actually |
| 23:22.26 | Mr_Rabies | as soon as i saw the water was missing i went to shimmering flats |
| 23:22.28 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 23:22.47 | Fisker | Anyway stuff like Sandy Bridge have an completely unreal performance boost on WoW |
| 23:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | also |
| 23:23.11 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/QcdKR.jpg |
| 23:23.36 | Mr_Rabies | FIXED IT, DEATHWING |
| 23:23.38 | Mr_Rabies | TAKE THAT |
| 23:23.43 | Ackis | what's the diff between a GTX 460 and 560 Ti? |
| 23:23.55 | Fisker | 20-30% performance improvement |
| 23:24.04 | Fisker | though probably not in wow :3 |
| 23:24.25 | Fisker | they're launching a real 560 as well in a few days |
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| 23:24.54 | Ackis | and what's the diff from a GT 460 to a GTX 460? |
| 23:25.06 | Mr_Rabies | more X |
| 23:25.20 | Fisker | haven't heard of a GT 460 |
| 23:25.25 | Ackis | cog|work: you should look at my facebook page and see my latest pic :( |
| 23:25.41 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not sure if a GT460 exists, but GT is usually their moniker for mid-end stuff and GTX is the gaming stuff |
| 23:25.42 | Ackis | ah ok fisker that was a my bad |
| 23:25.49 | Cide | hi people |
| 23:26.27 | Cide | is there a way to lower the base system volume if you will in fedora/linux in general? |
| 23:26.31 | Ackis | http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/Computers(ME)/ComputerComponents(ME)/VideoCards(ME)/PCI-ExpressVideoCards(ME)/Nvidia(ME)/Default.aspx?Sort=Price_Desc |
| 23:26.47 | cog|work | Use the force, Ackis |
| 23:26.54 | Cide | I gotta keep the volume at like 5% to not go deaf |
| 23:27.13 | Ackis | :( cog|work |
| 23:27.31 | Cide | I want to scale the volume so that the current 5% is maybe 80% |
| 23:31.26 | Ackis | http://mibpaste.com/WHdyjf |
| 23:31.31 | Ackis | look at those cards fisker |
| 23:34.05 | Ackis | ok the tech support guy told me to turn my multisampling down from 8x to 1x |
| 23:34.11 | Ackis | and it seems to work in directx 11 |
| 23:34.35 | Ackis | Fisker! |
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| 23:34.56 | Kalroth | what are you fixing Ackis? |
| 23:35.14 | Ackis | Kalroth: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2522433735 |
| 23:35.36 | Kalroth | oh, I had that too |
| 23:36.10 | Kalroth | with my old 4870x2 running as DX11, so basically what cogwheel said |
| 23:36.35 | Ackis | yeah I'm trying to get advice on a new card now but fisker is off ignoring me |
| 23:36.36 | Kalroth | it was limited to water not drawing though |
| 23:36.50 | Kalroth | Fisker will only mention suxxx cards though! |
| 23:38.36 | Ackis | http://mibpaste.com/WHdyjf are the cards I've listed |
| 23:43.47 | Kalroth | if you're going to stick with midrange cards, you might as well grab 6850 |
| 23:44.30 | Ackis | never will I put an ATI in my PC |
| 23:44.41 | Kalroth | your loss :) |
| 23:45.00 | Ackis | they lost me as a customer with the Mach 64s :P |
| 23:45.09 | Fisker | yeah i figured that could b e it Ackis |
| 23:45.12 | Fisker | be it* |
| 23:45.27 | Fisker | there's probably some other antialiasing code being run on the D3D11 codepath |
| 23:45.43 | Fisker | which conflicts unless you're d3d11 capable |
| 23:48.35 | foxlit | Can the win32 API read JPEG images? |
| 23:54.47 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzsG7cb-MPM -- in swedish, but watch it anyway (without sound if you want) |
