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| 00:10.35 | Adys | i love chrome |
| 00:10.38 | Adys | i love webkit |
| 00:10.40 | Adys | i love google. |
| 00:11.15 | Adys | webkit devtools are absolutely awesome. js deobfuscation support and then some |
| 00:28.35 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
| 00:32.48 | kd3 | well, that's certainly an improvement from last year |
| 00:32.54 | kd3 | just got his state tax refund check |
| 00:33.09 | kd3 | took 3? 4? months last year |
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| 00:41.02 | Browser | hello, friends. is this the right place to ask for help with Minion? |
| 00:46.48 | olafski | deobfuscation sounds cool |
| 00:46.55 | olafski | is there any site I can try that on quickly? :) |
| 00:49.17 | olafski | nm can't even find it in chrome.. if it's even in there :P bedtime |
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| 00:57.37 | Shirik | kd3 :( |
| 00:57.44 | Shirik | I've not gotten any of my refund checks |
| 00:58.01 | Shirik | in the meantime, I HAVE had the checks that I owed to the government cashed... |
| 00:58.14 | Shirik | what do you need Browser |
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| 01:01.32 | Browser | Minion worked for me on xp 64, but now I'm on 7 64 and getting Write access ... is denied in this context for most addons trying to update |
| 01:01.50 | Adys | thank god |
| 01:02.09 | Adys | the chromium guys added git mirrors for everything |
| 01:02.13 | Browser | looks like it's failing to create subfolders in the temp folders during extraction |
| 01:02.33 | Browser | com.mmoui.manager.MinionSecurityManager.checkWrite(MinionSecurityManager.java:1157) |
| 01:02.39 | Adys | olafski: its in chrome 12 only |
| 01:02.45 | Adys | inspector -> scripts |
| 01:03.26 | Shirik | Browser, can you give me the whole log file please? |
| 01:04.47 | Browser | sure, let me generate a fresh one. how should I post it? |
| 01:21.36 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEPnKzcVW8Q |
| 01:21.52 | bluspacecow | http://tinyurl.com/3elhkn8 |
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| 01:38.11 | Adys | "regression: sound ceases to work after between 4 and 7 days of usage" |
| 01:38.12 | Adys | well |
| 01:38.20 | Adys | that's going to be a really fun regression test :D |
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| 02:07.17 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
| 02:07.24 | Shirik | Adys: pong! |
| 02:07.28 | Shirik | Are you going to ask me a python question?! |
| 02:07.28 | Adys | i said ping |
| 02:07.30 | Adys | not ping! |
| 02:07.37 | Adys | and no |
| 02:07.38 | Adys | pm |
| 02:07.57 | Shirik | :)( |
| 02:07.59 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:08.12 | Adys | is that a hotdog mouth? |
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| 02:15.37 | bluspacecow | http://www.arcattack.com/video/vid3.php |
| 02:15.39 | bluspacecow | cool! |
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| 02:16.46 | Adys | did that guy say "I think i can just use my watersaw" ? |
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| 02:23.42 | Adys | https://github.com/hueniverse/draft-hammer-http-mac/blob/master/draft-hammer-oauth-v2-mac-token.txt |
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| 02:36.09 | cog|work | http://media.skysurvey.org/interactive360/index.html |
| 02:36.33 | cogwheel | Shirik: i think you'd like that |
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| 02:46.06 | bluspacecow | @cog is that how big yr minecraft world is ? |
| 02:46.40 | cogwheel | my minecraft world is barely over 2km (maybe closer to 3 in the last couple weeks) |
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| 02:57.15 | cogwheel | lol this is so me if i were lactose intolerant http://notalwaysright.com/when-bowels-camembert-it-any-longer/11311 |
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| 03:06.09 | bluspacecow | lollolololololol |
| 03:06.19 | bluspacecow | some guy asked for help in #wowtech |
| 03:06.26 | bluspacecow | his config.wtf has this = SET realmList "logon.molten-wow.com" |
| 03:06.29 | bluspacecow | instakick! |
| 03:19.36 | airtonix_ | are you bold Bluspacecow? |
| 03:20.09 | Bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 03:23.06 | airtonix_ | Adys: mac hammer.... that guy needs to learn how to use markdown |
| 03:27.47 | airtonix_ | Bluspacecow: I LOL'D |
| 03:27.50 | airtonix_ | http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/Images/ |
| 03:27.54 | airtonix_ | lolololol |
| 03:27.56 | airtonix_ | :< |
| 03:28.02 | Bluspacecow | deined ! |
| 03:28.06 | Bluspacecow | denied even! |
| 03:28.15 | airtonix_ | there's more to it than that |
| 03:28.16 | Bluspacecow | was that the lolz ? |
| 03:28.21 | airtonix_ | look at the page style |
| 03:28.35 | airtonix_ | ms iis |
| 03:28.42 | Bluspacecow | lolz |
| 03:28.49 | airtonix_ | or what ever they pimp it off as these days |
| 03:29.16 | airtonix_ | Bluspacecow: guess what the process manager in windows8 might be called ? |
| 03:29.19 | Bluspacecow | microsoft hookers ? |
| 03:29.25 | airtonix_ | hoho |
| 03:29.31 | Bluspacecow | bill gates to do list ? |
| 03:29.41 | airtonix_ | that's too complicated |
| 03:29.46 | airtonix_ | it's |
| 03:30.02 | airtonix_ | Super Process Manager |
| 03:30.17 | nebula169 | super means better |
| 03:30.25 | airtonix_ | oh ok |
| 03:30.33 | Bluspacecow | .... |
| 03:30.43 | Bluspacecow | Super Happy Butt Fun Time Process Manager ? |
| 03:31.00 | airtonix_ | anyway |
| 03:31.02 | airtonix_ | http://canihostaminecraftserver.com/Images/ProbablyNot.png |
| 03:31.12 | airtonix_ | i'm building that tower now |
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| 04:12.02 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:12.18 | Wobin | what do I have to set to get the token prompt on the same login page as the user/pass? |
| 04:14.24 | Thunder_Child | $5 to homever does an escher drawing/painting in minecraft. |
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| 04:15.13 | Xinhuan | there's a thread on paradoxes |
| 04:15.15 | Xinhuan | its quite fail |
| 04:15.22 | Xinhuan | but there are some really good ones there |
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| 04:15.30 | Xinhuan | with a escher drawing |
| 04:15.59 | Xinhuan | http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=315804&start=90#p4372504 |
| 04:16.04 | Xinhuan | another one next page with a water fall |
| 04:16.16 | Xinhuan | there's a few good text paradoxes, but the rest are fail |
| 04:17.40 | Xinhuan | my favourite has to be "What is better - diamond pickaxe or wooden pickaxe? What is better than a diamond pickaxe? Nothing. But a wooden pickaxe is better than nothing. So a wooden pickaxe is better than a diamond pickaxe." |
| 04:20.57 | Shirik | Free cake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-5pKLELiQw&feature=related |
| 04:21.00 | airtonix_ | haha |
| 04:21.31 | airtonix_ | i didn't realise this but putting lava moat around your home, will result in free fried pork chops |
| 04:21.37 | airtonix_ | every day! |
| 04:21.44 | airtonix_ | bacon generator |
| 04:21.48 | Xinhuan | yssaril built a passive mob grinder |
| 04:21.56 | airtonix_ | links? |
| 04:21.56 | Xinhuan | carts cows and pigs and chickens, separates them |
| 04:22.09 | Xinhuan | and produces pork chops in a chute |
| 04:22.30 | Xinhuan | there aren't any screenshots, but you could log on cogwheel's server if you are on the whitelist :P |
| 04:24.05 | bluspacecow | hmmmmm |
| 04:24.15 | bluspacecow | where is it on the map ? |
| 04:27.15 | Xinhuan | its at the lava line |
| 04:27.19 | Xinhuan | end of it |
| 04:27.43 | Xinhuan | i have also just concluded that the fastest way to remove railway tracks is to flood the damn area with water |
| 04:28.00 | bluspacecow | on my SSP map i built a moat of everyburning fire with walls 4 height |
| 04:28.15 | bluspacecow | i watch creepers trying to jump in and get burnt :) |
| 04:28.30 | Xinhuan | they used a cactus wall for the train hub |
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| 04:30.04 | Dagmar | That reminds me I meant to talk to mikma about battlements |
| 04:30.25 | Xinhuan | whata bout it |
| 04:31.07 | Dagmar | He posted some screenshots of his castle with a high wall that's entirely vertical |
| 04:31.16 | Dagmar | Spiders can climb right up into that |
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| 04:31.41 | Dagmar | However, if you just make the battlements stick out a bit, that stops it. Make 'em 2 high and it even looks more vicious |
| 04:31.52 | Xinhuan | that's called a "lip" |
| 04:32.10 | Dagmar | The lip doesn't need to be contiguous |
| 04:32.23 | Dagmar | it just has to have no gaps wider than 1m, since spiders are 2m wide |
| 04:38.43 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: can a spider walk upsidedown? |
| 04:40.38 | Dagmar | Nope. :) |
| 04:40.41 | Dagmar | Thank goodness. |
| 04:40.51 | Dagmar | The idea of spiders falling off the ceiling onto my head == NOT FUNNY |
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| 04:42.10 | Thunder_Child | what about outward sloping walls then? |
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| 04:42.42 | bluspacecow | anyone else finding that even after turning off "Optimize network for speed" wow appears to be using more bandwidth then before ? |
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| 04:44.34 | Hirsute | I've never much trusted the client's bandwidth measurements, and haven't bothered with trying to measure them outside the client. |
| 04:45.44 | A-KO | haven't tried bluspacecow, but it's possible it might. I haven't really looked. |
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| 04:49.27 | bluspacecow | friend of mine is reporting its using more ...and turning ONFS on or off has no effect on it |
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| 04:49.55 | bluspacecow | the tooltip says you'll have increased bandwidth with the option turned on but when you turn it off it doesn't appear to go down he said |
| 04:50.09 | bluspacecow | mind you i has yet to test it myself yet |
| 04:52.00 | bluspacecow | i read something on leaxtrix latency fix faq page saying it enables or disables nagling on data packets on an on demand basis on an application baiss (ie not system wide) |
| 04:53.37 | amro` | can't seem to get this cpu temp below 67C idle, what could be wrong? |
| 04:55.25 | Dagmar | If it's a Dell, replace the heat sink compound |
| 04:55.38 | Dagmar | Otherwise, check in the BIOS and make sure you're seeing the same numbers there. The software might be reading the wrong sensor |
| 04:56.30 | amro` | im looking at temps in bios, haven't installed anything yet |
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| 04:56.52 | amro` | I replaced the thermal compound that was on the stock cooler but that didn't make a difference |
| 04:57.02 | amro` | temp slowly climbs to 67 then stays there |
| 04:57.04 | A-KO | bluspacecow: leatrix's fix is system wide |
| 04:57.13 | A-KO | amro: stock cooler isn't likely enough |
| 04:57.21 | bluspacecow | yes that what i was saying |
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| 04:57.36 | Starlig__ | =o Hello <3 |
| 04:57.41 | A-KO | bluspacecow: I damn well know leatrix's fix isn't app-based :P |
| 04:57.41 | bluspacecow | leatrix's faq was saying the ONFS option is just for wow and on demand |
| 04:57.47 | amro` | this seems exceptionally bad for a stock cooler A-KO |
| 04:57.48 | A-KO | uhm... |
| 04:57.52 | A-KO | amro: what's the CPU? |
| 04:57.57 | airtonix_ | Dagmar: do cpus generally still uses 100% in bios? |
| 04:57.58 | amro` | i7 2600k |
| 04:58.08 | A-KO | amro: retail box CPU? or OEM? |
| 04:58.17 | amro` | retail |
| 04:58.33 | Dagmar | No they're generally pretty idle when you're sitting in the BIOS menu |
| 04:58.44 | Dagmar | ...but he's saying he's getting creepy temps at idle. |
| 04:58.47 | A-KO | amro: tight seal on the install? |
| 04:58.58 | A-KO | 67C idle is too high |
| 04:59.03 | amro` | A-KO: hm? |
| 04:59.15 | A-KO | you made sure the heatsink was secure and tight in place, right? |
| 04:59.17 | A-KO | it's not wobbly? |
| 04:59.27 | amro` | yeah, reseated it a couple of times |
| 04:59.29 | amro` | no difference |
| 04:59.48 | Thunder_Child | is there a difference with no heatsink? |
| 04:59.53 | Dagmar | Don't do that |
| 05:00.00 | A-KO | I haven't done any i7 2600K installs yet so I don't know, but I know the stock cooler for my C2D back in the day was terribad, but not *that* terribad. but you get MUCH better performance out of aftermarket coolers. |
| 05:00.13 | A-KO | I could see 67C load |
| 05:00.20 | amro` | I'm sure A-KO, but at 67C I think I'm doing something wrong |
| 05:00.28 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: there is nothing wrong with it |
| 05:00.28 | amro` | no matter how shitty the fan is |
| 05:00.44 | amro` | Thunder_Child: I'd imagine it would auto shut down within seconds |
| 05:00.48 | A-KO | amro: you use CPU-Z to check voltages on the CPU? make sure it's not being overvolted? |
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| 05:00.58 | A-KO | or rather, look in the BIOS at voltages, see what they read |
| 05:01.07 | Thunder_Child | amro`: then you would know there is a difference |
| 05:01.09 | amro` | voltage is within range |
| 05:01.17 | Thunder_Child | either way it's a diagnostic tool |
| 05:01.44 | amro` | I know there would be a difference without trying it. anyway, at some point one of the screws on the heatsink was loose and it shot up to 90C |
| 05:01.48 | amro` | so yeah, it makes a difference |
| 05:02.19 | Thunder_Child | i assume you dont have another CPU to try? |
| 05:02.24 | amro` | no |
| 05:02.28 | A-KO | amro: My only assumption is that maybe you got a returned retail box with a crappy cooler in it or something. The only time I've seen that happen (high temps, stock) is when the cooler isn't actaully good enough to handle the CPU. |
| 05:02.45 | Thunder_Child | couldnt be a faulty chip? |
| 05:02.54 | A-KO | could be, but I would imagine the system wouldn't start in that case. |
| 05:03.02 | A-KO | I've seen motherboards overvolt CPUs and get them hot, too |
| 05:03.12 | Thunder_Child | either way, just replace the whole kit |
| 05:03.14 | amro` | silly motherboards |
| 05:03.17 | Thunder_Child | solves everything |
| 05:03.19 | A-KO | yeah |
| 05:03.25 | A-KO | anyways, off to sleep for me, god it's late lol |
| 05:03.32 | amro` | night |
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| 05:05.52 | Starlig__ | Lawl so, funny story, my BF just let me today because of WoW |
| 05:06.20 | bluspacecow | let you ? |
| 05:06.24 | Starlig__ | *left |
| 05:06.28 | Starlig__ | oopsies! |
| 05:06.41 | Starlig__ | Well he just left me like, a half hour ago |
| 05:07.08 | Starlig__ | I hit revered in the guild we were in before him > >; and he got mad, said I am always in competition with him and left me. I was like....what. |
| 05:07.55 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 05:08.07 | Dagmar | Stop dating teenagers. |
| 05:08.08 | amro` | I agree with bluspacecow |
| 05:08.11 | bluspacecow | honey a guy like that would of left you for something else anyway |
| 05:08.26 | amro` | I disagree with bluspacecow |
| 05:08.30 | Starlig__ | Yep... He told me to shut the fuck up when I tried explaining I had no idea how close I was to dinging |
| 05:08.32 | bluspacecow | wow had nothing to do with it ... it was just an excuse for his jealous tendencys |
| 05:08.36 | Starlig__ | Well I'm 18 |
| 05:08.50 | bluspacecow | GOOD! |
| 05:08.57 | Starlig__ | then he called a bitch and deleted me off of like, everything XD |
| 05:08.59 | Dagmar | leers |
| 05:09.00 | Thunder_Child | that doesnt invalidate Dagmar's comment |
| 05:09.03 | bluspacecow | *hands starling a Turkey and Gravy Rumand cola* |
| 05:09.15 | Starlig__ | Hahahaa |
| 05:09.21 | bluspacecow | time to get dunk girl! |
| 05:09.26 | bluspacecow | dwunk even |
| 05:09.27 | bluspacecow | drunk! |
| 05:09.35 | Dagmar | They don't let you do that until your'e 21 in the US |
| 05:09.42 | Starlig__ | Pfft |
| 05:09.46 | Starlig__ | well they don't gotta know |
| 05:09.48 | Starlig__ | ;) |
| 05:09.53 | Starlig__ | Haha |
| 05:09.53 | Thunder_Child | yes they do |
| 05:10.01 | Thunder_Child | ~irc |
| 05:10.01 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 05:10.14 | Starlig__ | LOL |
| 05:10.28 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 05:10.31 | bluspacecow | rly ? |
| 05:10.42 | Thunder_Child | rly |
| 05:10.47 | bluspacecow | i forget sometimes im in nz where the ages are slightly different |
| 05:10.52 | AcidWeb | Morning |
| 05:10.55 | Starlig__ | My name is suppose to be Starlight....don't know what the Starli___ is about |
| 05:11.01 | Starlig__ | Good morning =) |
| 05:12.01 | amro` | second look at the feedback page shows a lot of people complaining about the stock cooler |
| 05:12.26 | bluspacecow | starlight must be a registered nick starlig__ |
| 05:12.32 | Dagmar | That sounds like an excuse to buy some insanely elaborate aftermarket cooler to me. :) |
| 05:12.50 | Dagmar | Something like, shaped like the Taj Mahal or something |
| 05:13.03 | Starlig__ | Aw man, that's probably why, thanks |
| 05:13.44 | Seerah | did you try registering it with the server? |
| 05:13.45 | bluspacecow | @dagmar lined with rubys and gems like the taj mahal was ? |
| 05:14.01 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Pretty sure there's sime ricer shops that would sell that |
| 05:14.04 | Starlight_______ | Well when I joined, I just put in Starlight and it worked |
| 05:14.11 | Dagmar | The chinese tend to get pretty damn elaborate with those things |
| 05:14.21 | Starlight_______ | Thanks ^^ |
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| 05:14.49 | mikma | haste: http://www.rlslog.net/cengage-visual-c-sharp-game-programming-for-teens-2011-retail-ebook-digibook/ |
| 05:14.50 | AcidWeb | Anybody know if ppl got one MMR for RGBs and Arenas or they are separate? |
| 05:15.02 | Seerah | good thing we can tab to complete - not sure how many underscores that is :p |
| 05:15.21 | Thunder_Child | mikma: zombie coders? |
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| 05:15.36 | mikma | thunder_child: something like that... |
| 05:15.50 | Starlight_______ | Yeahhh it's such a huge line, let me change my name haha |
| 05:15.55 | Thunder_Child | even worse than coding for dummies |
| 05:15.59 | mikma | i was like "lul" then i had to .. think about buying it |
| 05:16.13 | AcidWeb | Also you you noticed that they changed someting with texure sizes in 4.1? |
| 05:16.18 | Thunder_Child | and by buy you mean DL? |
| 05:16.37 | mikma | thunder_child: bingo |
| 05:17.09 | Seerah | AcidWeb: changed? |
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| 05:18.18 | Starlight_ | Well, I wasn't here very long but I'm going to head off to bed now. Nighty night guys, sweet dreams =) |
| 05:18.31 | AcidWeb | Seerah: Few textures embeded with |TTexturePath become larger after patch O.o |
| 05:19.07 | Seerah | "a few do" or "few do" ? |
| 05:19.25 | AcidWeb | All of them ;p |
| 05:19.45 | Seerah | larger how? |
| 05:19.47 | AcidWeb | I see that STC is also affected by that. |
| 05:20.10 | AcidWeb | 10px larger |
| 05:20.49 | Seerah | even if they're set to have the same height as the text? |
| 05:21.08 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/MOGZj |
| 05:22.13 | AcidWeb | No tested that. All mine got size1 and size2 > 0 |
| 05:22.26 | amro` | Dagmar: looking at the coolermaster hyper 212 |
| 05:23.18 | AcidWeb | And i was forced to reduce all of sizes by 10px to make them look like before 4.1 |
| 05:23.20 | AcidWeb | Strange thing. |
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| 05:25.37 | AcidWeb | Also at last API recived way to get MMR |
| 05:25.44 | AcidWeb | One of nice undocumented changes ;p |
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| 05:30.51 | Eridius | what's MMR? |
| 05:31.34 | AcidWeb | Match Making Rating |
| 05:35.10 | mikma | My Mother Rules |
| 05:35.31 | AcidWeb | Also they ressurect one of deprecated calls - GetBattlefieldArenaFaction() |
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| 05:36.34 | Arrowmaster | http://speedtest.net/result/1274814055.png |
| 05:36.44 | Arrowmaster | hmm still not seeing the improved upload speed ive been promissed |
| 05:36.55 | Arrowmaster | got my line upgraded earlier today |
| 05:40.11 | AcidWeb | Anybody here use TabBinder? |
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| 05:47.50 | Shirik | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2011/04/quick-clicks-hulu-insitu-infospace.html |
| 05:47.55 | Shirik | How did all that stuff end up in the same article |
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| 05:57.02 | mikma | haste: i think i just came. Astrix has released new album in 2010, Red means distortion |
| 05:57.55 | mikma | haste: this is me not linking a piratebay url - http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5969927/Astrix_-_Red_Means_Distortion_-_2010 |
| 05:59.58 | Thunder_Child | amro: i have something close to http://thermalright.com/products/index.php?act=data&cat_id=27&id=108 and i never get above 40c, even at load |
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| 06:04.02 | Thunder_Child | "The versatile MacroPro⢠Key allows easy access to actuate pre-programmed firmware commands, such as Macros, Scripts, Mouse motion, and actions. Automated repetitive actions can be easily implemented for complex MMO games and/or other Windows applications. " interesting, i wonder if that bypases the hardware req's for wow. |
| 06:04.30 | Thunder_Child | hardware key press* |
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| 06:17.10 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: G15 keyboards could do that for years, Blizzards stance on that was, if you use it to automate things, you might get banned |
| 06:17.24 | nevcairiel | not sure if they could detect you using that, however |
| 06:18.20 | Dagmar | The lua interface in the drivers gets disabled automatically |
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| 07:19.57 | bluspacecow | why do people ring me about their power being out ? |
| 07:20.05 | bluspacecow | do i look like the power board ? |
| 07:20.29 | nevcairiel | actually, yeah, you do |
| 07:22.32 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 07:22.35 | bluspacecow | he rang again |
| 07:22.44 | bluspacecow | "but you guys run the city" |
| 07:22.55 | bluspacecow | we run the city but we don't run the electricity network |
| 07:25.35 | nevcairiel | just tell him who to call instead! |
| 07:25.45 | bluspacecow | i did |
| 07:25.48 | bluspacecow | several times |
| 07:25.59 | nevcairiel | the same guy? |
| 07:26.02 | bluspacecow | he appears to be having a herp derp moment and not hearing what im telling him |
| 07:26.04 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 07:26.09 | bluspacecow | serveral times during the conversation |
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| 07:32.35 | airtonix_ | Xinhuan: is that mob farmer you mentioned eariler of a unique design? (could i find a similar design on youtube or somesuch place)? |
| 07:34.06 | airtonix_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSHHRSoMOME |
| 07:35.14 | airtonix_ | thats pretty much the design of mine |
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| 08:34.21 | AcidWeb | Somebody maybe got screenshot of rated bg scoreboard after 4.1? |
| 08:43.20 | Fisker | i came bluspacecow |
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| 08:44.05 | Fisker | hey airtonix_ |
| 08:44.20 | Fisker | no? |
| 08:45.49 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 08:47.41 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 08:47.45 | Fisker | wanna bluspacecow with me? |
| 08:48.21 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:48.25 | bluspacecow | dededededed |
| 08:56.35 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 08:59.10 | Fisker | wish me bitches and hoes bluspacecow |
| 08:59.33 | Cairenn | ... |
| 08:59.40 | bluspacecow | i wish you female dogs and farming implements. |
| 09:00.06 | bluspacecow | have fun starting your farm fisker |
| 09:01.43 | Fisker | i will |
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| 09:59.45 | Fisker | my blitz is awesome bluspacecow |
| 10:06.48 | karl_w_w | anyone know if questID returned by GetQuestLogTitle should match the questID on wowhead/everywhere else? |
| 10:07.27 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:07.34 | jnwhiteh | that's the purpose of the questID |
| 10:07.53 | Fisker | i didn't know that |
| 10:09.09 | karl_w_w | lucky ur here jnwhiteh :P |
| 10:09.18 | karl_w_w | the reason i ask is tomtom is throwing an error |
| 10:10.03 | Fisker | why would it throw errors at you? |
| 10:11.06 | karl_w_w | if i ctrl-right click a quest in the objective tracker, it's using the wrong questIndex in POIIntegration.lua |
| 10:11.35 | jnwhiteh | please don't diagnose it |
| 10:11.38 | jnwhiteh | please just give me the error. |
| 10:11.44 | jnwhiteh | questIndex is not questId |
| 10:11.50 | jnwhiteh | theyre completely different |
| 10:12.49 | karl_w_w | yeah i know |
| 10:12.53 | karl_w_w | ignore what i said before :P |
| 10:12.58 | jnwhiteh | I normally do |
| 10:13.00 | karl_w_w | ill post on wowi comments as i was going to |
| 10:13.09 | jnwhiteh | I ignore any bug reports that don't include the error message =) |
| 10:13.49 | Fisker | i got a bug for you jnwhiteh :( |
| 10:19.42 | Fisker | even Steve Jobs must be cursing over patents now |
| 10:20.03 | karl_w_w | there you go jnwhiteh :P |
| 10:20.08 | Fisker | https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/13405-Apple-Lied-Filed-Patent-for-Mobile-Device-Tracking.html |
| 10:20.09 | Fisker | tee hee |
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| 10:26.49 | mikma | http://www.theonion.com/video/today-now-interviews-the-5yearold-screenwriter-of,20188/ |
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| 10:52.55 | bluspacecow | ok guys off home |
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| 11:05.01 | airtonix_ | mikma: i'm growing ablative armour on my fortress :> |
| 11:05.53 | sylvanaar | i still we as a community should come up with a standard bug reporter, just for error stacks |
| 11:06.15 | sylvanaar | that was directed to jnwhiteh and karl_w_w |
| 11:06.27 | zenzelezz | hands sylvanaar a "think" |
| 11:06.40 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 11:07.48 | sylvanaar | like go to website, post stack, and go. most times user comments are "it throws errors" anyways |
| 11:08.42 | zenzelezz | the idea seems good |
| 11:08.50 | zenzelezz | if you could just convince people to use it |
| 11:09.52 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 11:10.24 | sylvanaar | i made a post about it in 2008, but it required too much cooperation I thought for it to work |
| 11:11.09 | sylvanaar | things were very political back then |
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| 11:17.44 | airtonix_ | sylvanaar: imma assasinate you |
| 11:18.21 | sylvanaar | et tu airtonix_? |
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| 11:18.47 | airtonix_ | imba |
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| 11:25.33 | mikma | airtonix_: team fortress? |
| 11:31.01 | zenzelezz | "Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that had its two sides gently compressed by a Thigh Master." - http://www.losteyeball.com/index.php/2007/06/19/56-worstbest-analogies-of-high-school-students/ |
| 11:35.59 | karl_w_w | sylvanaar: people will still make reports without stacks though |
| 11:36.33 | karl_w_w | and you can't force them to attach a stack, because not all problems will cause an error |
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| 11:38.43 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 11:38.44 | Fisker | http://twitpic.com/4re8rm |
| 11:38.45 | Fisker | :< |
| 11:40.31 | karl_w_w | why sad Fisker? |
| 11:40.41 | nevcairiel | fisker wtb galaxy s2 |
| 11:40.42 | karl_w_w | are those your girlfriend's specs? |
| 11:43.09 | Fisker | noty.jpg nevcairiel |
| 11:43.25 | nevcairiel | what |
| 11:43.29 | Fisker | unless it's proper hackable |
| 11:43.55 | nevcairiel | i dont care about that shit |
| 11:44.11 | Fisker | i would |
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| 11:45.47 | nevcairiel | there are rumors that the S2's bootloader is open though |
| 11:46.04 | Fisker | pointless rumors |
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| 11:47.21 | nevcairiel | isnt it already out in the UK, someone will figure it out :p |
| 11:50.44 | Fisker | i don't think so |
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| 12:27.46 | Fisker | lets destroy bluspacecow |
| 12:27.55 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
| 12:28.01 | Fisker | too late |
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| 12:29.45 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UGD0fV45g |
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| 12:43.14 | Fisker | old |
| 12:48.23 | olafski | should I interrupt whispers of hethis during the cast or in the channel after that? |
| 12:53.23 | Fisker | :O nevcairiel |
| 12:53.30 | Fisker | SGS2 should be out next week |
| 12:53.48 | Fisker | last i heard they were still talking june/july ish |
| 12:54.34 | bluspacecow | wot dat |
| 12:54.42 | Fisker | it's a month bluspacecow |
| 12:54.55 | bluspacecow | no i mean SGS2 |
| 12:56.07 | Fisker | is mobile phone |
| 12:56.24 | bluspacecow | yr a mobile phone ? |
| 12:56.54 | Fisker | no u r |
| 12:57.47 | zenzelezz | Samsung Galaxy S 2 |
| 12:58.31 | bluspacecow | a fisker phone would probably ring ... .... and there would be no one there |
| 12:58.58 | bluspacecow | or the caller id would show your girlfriend and you start the sexy talk .... and its actually your mom |
| 13:10.55 | bluspacecow | http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/4/29/bbdee622-8adb-487a-9f44-6664fa47c152.jpg |
| 13:12.02 | nevcairiel | Fisker: you noticed that just now? :p |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | next week or the week after here |
| 13:12.59 | nevcairiel | amoled with full RGB grid = win |
| 13:14.34 | zenzelezz | maybe Fisker would prefer emoled though |
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| 13:21.55 | Ingela | where can i find all interface changes for 4.1? |
| 13:22.03 | Ingela | the one in topic only has a little bit |
| 13:23.30 | bluspacecow | when you say interface changes do you mean changes affecting addons ? |
| 13:24.16 | Ingela | yes basically |
| 13:24.29 | Ingela | i wanna find out why my nameplate addon isn't working anymore eventhough no errors |
| 13:24.59 | Ingela | so thought maybe i could get some clues in all the cahnges they made |
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| 13:26.29 | bluspacecow | not sure |
| 13:26.36 | bluspacecow | i've seen some word of what change there were |
| 13:26.41 | bluspacecow | but not in one post |
| 13:26.44 | bluspacecow | or page |
| 13:27.14 | Ingela | hmm |
| 13:27.32 | Ingela | this is usually all piled up on one page with everything on it but i've yet to find it |
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| 13:42.45 | BlackNet | lo |
| 13:52.27 | BlackNet | anyone get a letter like this? -=> We would like to ask that this add-on be removed from the public until such time as it complies more within the bounds of the add-on policy. |
| 13:52.54 | bluspacecow | from who ? |
| 13:53.24 | BlackNet | blizz dev team |
| 13:53.34 | bluspacecow | you sure ? |
| 13:53.40 | bluspacecow | checked the headers in detail ? |
| 13:53.41 | BlackNet | http://www.tukui.org/blog/33 |
| 13:53.48 | bluspacecow | you know the from field can be easily faked |
| 13:54.28 | BlackNet | see link |
| 13:56.36 | bluspacecow | where's the full smtp headers ? |
| 13:57.07 | BlackNet | not posted. |
| 13:57.44 | olafski | so what _does_ premium membership buy you? |
| 13:57.47 | bluspacecow | well did you check them ? Received from fields ? SMTP auth stuff ... all that ? |
| 13:57.58 | BlackNet | http://www.tukui.org/premium.php |
| 13:58.10 | BlackNet | bluspacecow yes that's all been looked and and yes it's valid |
| 13:58.31 | bluspacecow | "Access to BETA & PTR builds" |
| 13:58.31 | BlackNet | the only thing i can see is the ptr/beta being subscriber only |
| 13:58.40 | bluspacecow | they may see that as a pre. version of your addon |
| 13:59.02 | BlackNet | it's not my addon |
| 13:59.08 | BlackNet | im just a user |
| 13:59.20 | bluspacecow | then how do you know its not a fake email ? |
| 13:59.35 | olafski | have to say I'm not a fan of this "petition" way of dealing with things |
| 14:00.38 | AcidWeb | I think that someone from Blizz is just blind. |
| 14:01.01 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_042911_140334_001.jpg.html this is the plugin btw |
| 14:01.19 | AcidWeb | And he misunderstand content of premium page. |
| 14:01.22 | olafski | I've also never understood why people would download entire UI compilations :P |
| 14:02.13 | AcidWeb | Unless there are any addon donwload avaible only for people that bought premium. |
| 14:02.16 | bluspacecow | well |
| 14:02.25 | bluspacecow | thing is its up to blizzard what addons they allow in game |
| 14:02.30 | BlackNet | the ony thing that i see is the beta/ptr builds |
| 14:02.32 | bluspacecow | they can ban the addon if they wish |
| 14:02.33 | AcidWeb | They he is that blizz employe is right. |
| 14:02.45 | AcidWeb | *Then |
| 14:03.01 | BlackNet | http://www.curse.com/Premium/Signup.aspx as opposed to this? |
| 14:03.10 | BlackNet | need i mention zygor? |
| 14:03.19 | bluspacecow | they dont even have to allow addons. |
| 14:03.24 | AcidWeb | Premium curse not giving you access to addons. |
| 14:03.45 | BlackNet | AcidWeb you can get tukui with out having to do a subscrip |
| 14:03.54 | AcidWeb | I know |
| 14:04.00 | bluspacecow | pre curse doesnt give you special access to version of addons |
| 14:04.02 | bluspacecow | this does |
| 14:04.11 | AcidWeb | But still "Access to BETA & PTR builds" |
| 14:04.12 | bluspacecow | and its up to blizz as to how they ant to persue it |
| 14:04.20 | AcidWeb | imho that is main reason for blizz attention |
| 14:04.37 | olafski | curse prmium only gets rid of the ads afaik |
| 14:04.45 | olafski | and gives you the update all option in the client =) |
| 14:05.00 | BlackNet | actually that's not true |
| 14:05.11 | bluspacecow | you donwload the same versions on curse wheter on free or signed in on prem. |
| 14:05.43 | BlackNet | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/elvui.aspx |
| 14:05.51 | BlackNet | that's tukui, an edited version |
| 14:06.10 | AcidWeb | And? |
| 14:06.14 | olafski | what about it :P |
| 14:07.19 | olafski | you may want to press enter a bit less.. so it will look like you're making a point =) |
| 14:09.16 | olafski | hm or maybe nothing else was coming =( |
| 14:09.25 | BlackNet | so no one has has gotten the email notice yet on one of their projects |
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| 14:11.17 | AcidWeb | BlackNet: Blizz dont have nothing against addon or premium service (email box etc.) but a fact that you need pay to access beta and PTR version |
| 14:11.30 | AcidWeb | and "Access to our private git to see PTR/BETA changes" |
| 14:11.32 | BlackNet | that's my understanding to |
| 14:12.00 | AcidWeb | Access do addon cant be selled. |
| 14:12.06 | BlackNet | http://www.tukui.org/forums/topic.php?id=12196&page=5#post-91908 and what i put in |
| 14:13.47 | AcidWeb | And Tukz reacted like Blizz ordered him to eat source code and kill all Tukui users ;d |
| 14:14.29 | BlackNet | coders are not business oriented most of the time. |
| 14:15.52 | AcidWeb | And as i can see most of users followed him like lemmings |
| 14:15.57 | AcidWeb | Sigh |
| 14:16.08 | BlackNet | like i said, not business oriented :) |
| 14:16.31 | Ingela | lemmings such a good game |
| 14:16.45 | AcidWeb | Anyway... lets back to coding or i will never release new version today... |
| 14:17.13 | BlackNet | which plugin |
| 14:17.23 | AcidWeb | REFlex |
| 14:20.12 | olafski | "I'd quit playing WoW, simple as that." lol |
| 14:21.36 | BlackNet | lots of those type post |
| 14:23.16 | olafski | "Also, I too would quit WoW. What good is playing it without Tukui?" even better.. at least the first one sounded like they'd do it on the principle :P |
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| 14:25.24 | Ingela | that's probably the best way to get blizzards attention "I'm going to quit if you don't do X!" |
| 14:25.37 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 14:25.42 | bluspacecow | they can still ban his addon |
| 14:25.45 | BlackNet | they need a large group of people to do that |
| 14:25.48 | BlackNet | they wont |
| 14:25.50 | bluspacecow | and if it every comes up in court |
| 14:25.57 | bluspacecow | their lawyers would bury him |
| 14:26.03 | bluspacecow | if it every got that brutal of course |
| 14:26.12 | airtonix_ | umadbro |
| 14:26.16 | Ingela | and after |
| 14:26.17 | Ingela | he goes |
| 14:26.22 | airtonix_ | enter |
| 14:26.29 | Ingela | "Well, i lost this case, might as well quit wow" |
| 14:26.30 | bluspacecow | the bum hole ? |
| 14:26.46 | airtonix_ | bluspacecow: i think you have a gutter mind |
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| 14:27.03 | bluspacecow | anyway the use of addons is up to blizzards discretion |
| 14:27.07 | airtonix_ | i'm disapoint |
| 14:27.22 | bluspacecow | they could ban his addon in game with very little effort |
| 14:27.23 | olafski | unless you get 1M people to say they'll quit because of this I doubt blizzard will care ;) |
| 14:27.38 | airtonix_ | they won't ever care... qqmoar |
| 14:27.40 | BlackNet | even then i doubt they would care |
| 14:27.53 | bluspacecow | airtonix! |
| 14:27.57 | bluspacecow | imudbro |
| 14:28.06 | airtonix_ | then clean youself |
| 14:28.10 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 14:28.16 | bluspacecow | icleanbro |
| 14:28.17 | bluspacecow | but |
| 14:28.21 | bluspacecow | iwetbro |
| 14:28.25 | Ingela | let's make a thread on the interface forum and ask everyone to write /signed if they don't want tukui banned |
| 14:28.39 | bluspacecow | icanhasblowdryerbro ? |
| 14:28.41 | airtonix_ | i need to pray to jesus now bluspacecow |
| 14:28.54 | AcidWeb | Or just get naked and dance in light of the moon |
| 14:29.17 | Ingela | i'm full of good ideas today |
| 14:30.05 | airtonix_ | cereal? |
| 14:30.20 | olafski | that sounds awesome ingela, go for it, I'll definitly read it and not sign ;) |
| 14:30.45 | Ingela | can't you just post in it and ask for a blue respons? |
| 14:30.47 | airtonix_ | it will be a nice qqthread |
| 14:30.51 | Ingela | they like that i heard |
| 14:30.54 | olafski | oh that would be nice |
| 14:31.19 | olafski | be sure to write the post in all caps and use the word blizz, blue, gc and bashiok in it |
| 14:31.21 | Ingela | airtonix_, can you create a facebook group to help the cause maybe? |
| 14:31.29 | Ingela | "We who don't want tukui banned!!" |
| 14:31.34 | airtonix_ | i don't use facebook |
| 14:31.45 | airtonix_ | i'm afraid of becoming a fan |
| 14:32.33 | airtonix_ | http://www.preshweb.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/facebook-become-a-fan.png |
| 14:32.35 | airtonix_ | do not want |
| 14:34.27 | bluspacecow | i will not join any FB protest group that does not have cute kittys in the gallery section |
| 14:36.38 | BlackNet | lol |
| 14:36.55 | BlackNet | i dont understand the appeal of facebook and all those other similar |
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| 14:41.37 | Adys | any gentoo user here? |
| 14:42.56 | BlackNet | i use debian |
| 14:43.44 | Adys | so basicallt |
| 14:43.49 | Adys | so basically, what you're saying is |
| 14:43.54 | Adys | you are irrelevant to my question |
| 14:43.56 | Adys | is that right? |
| 14:44.07 | AcidWeb | I use gentoo |
| 14:44.12 | Adys | there |
| 14:44.15 | Adys | see, he's useful |
| 14:44.48 | Adys | you, on the other hand, aren't. you're completely and utterly pointless with regards to what I asked. I asked "Any gentoo user here", he's a gentoo user, he replies. You're a debian user, I *really* don't care. |
| 14:45.17 | airtonix_ | umadbro |
| 14:45.26 | Adys | no, i just like pissing people off |
| 14:45.33 | Adys | AcidWeb: thanks but i figured it out. |
| 14:45.34 | Adys | :D |
| 14:45.35 | airtonix_ | btw, i'm awesome |
| 14:45.38 | AcidWeb | lol |
| 14:48.26 | Ingela | Adys, i'm a windows user |
| 14:48.37 | Adys | you're too late so whatever |
| 14:48.41 | haste | I'm a previous Gentoo user, who now uses Exherbo! |
| 14:48.44 | Ingela | been using for far too long =( |
| 14:48.53 | Adys | yes well i'm not helping you |
| 14:49.00 | Adys | go cry on Kalroth's thighs |
| 14:49.13 | Ingela | hey man windows addiction is a disease |
| 14:49.23 | Adys | your funeral |
| 14:50.26 | olafski | if they keep moving the "the Exalted" title to higher amounts of exalted factions.. shouldn't they do that for similar things? like the Professor title |
| 14:50.27 | nevcairiel | anyone good with AT&T assembly syntax? |
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| 14:52.37 | Adys | nevcairiel: sure |
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| 14:54.58 | nevcairiel | nvm i figured it out |
| 14:55.20 | Adys | and I got to sound smart for 2 minutes and 21 seconds |
| 14:55.21 | Adys | \o/ |
| 14:55.22 | nevcairiel | turns out the confusing thing was actually a preproccesor thing .. inline assembly ftl :p |
| 14:56.03 | cremetorte | hello everyone, i have a question: I use http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining but no matter how many bosses i kill in a certain instance encountersComplete remains 0 , does anybody know more? |
| 14:56.26 | Adys | !api getinstancelocktimerema |
| 14:56.27 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getinstancelocktimerema': GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining, GetInstanceLockTimeRemainingEncounter |
| 14:56.30 | cremetorte | i want to use it to determine how many bosses are already dead in my certain instances |
| 14:56.31 | Adys | !api GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining |
| 14:56.31 | lua_bot | GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining: Returns time remaining before the player is saved to a recently entered instance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining) |
| 14:57.19 | Adys | isnt there a more proper api for that? |
| 14:57.25 | Adys | !api GetInstanceLock |
| 14:57.25 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'GetInstanceLock': GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining, GetInstanceLockTimeRemainingEncounter |
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| 14:58.16 | cremetorte | eww GetInstaceLockTimeRemaining does NOT only return the time but also number of total bosses and number of dead bosses |
| 14:58.24 | cremetorte | and thats the information i am looking for |
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| 14:59.43 | cremetorte | and the problem is |
| 15:00.06 | cremetorte | that the number of dead bosses remains 0 no matter how many bosses are really down |
| 15:00.28 | cremetorte | i wish there would be a better way to determine the information i want |
| 15:00.28 | AcidWeb | Because deep in our harts they are still alive |
| 15:00.37 | cremetorte | :) |
| 15:00.48 | AcidWeb | That is not only gliched api call ;] |
| 15:01.30 | cremetorte | i cant understand why blizzard offers an API which is partly disfunctional -.- |
| 15:02.49 | AcidWeb | Because partly disfunctional API is better than no API ;] |
| 15:03.28 | cremetorte | i hate this, i tried to compensate that function with GetSavedInstanceInfo() but there are also problems when you do a certain heroics several times a day |
| 15:04.27 | cremetorte | i guess there is no way to tell blizzard that this API function doesnt work, is there? Because i doubt that GM can handle such problems |
| 15:06.18 | BlackNet | nope |
| 15:06.40 | BlackNet | they will quickly tell you it's not their problem, another department handles that and no way for you to get in contact with that department either |
| 15:06.50 | cremetorte | great |
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| 15:07.21 | cremetorte | i can do workarounds but i really dont want to fix blizzards problems.. |
| 15:07.21 | BlackNet | all you get is a fuck you go post on the forums |
| 15:07.25 | BlackNet | which they never read |
| 15:09.54 | Xinhuan | well, see, blizzard supports addons modding - but they dont directly support it |
| 15:10.20 | cremetorte | other idea: is there something like an unique ID for every DUngeon (instance) i enter so that i go ZG three times a day and every ZG has another ID, which i can somehow Get via API function? |
| 15:10.25 | Xinhuan | for me, wow being so moddable as it already is, far exceeds the moddability of every other MMO out there |
| 15:12.08 | AcidWeb | ^This |
| 15:14.50 | zenzelezz | WoW was the first MMO I played where "modding" meant more than just "reskin three windows" |
| 15:15.18 | Xinhuan | considering there's a few hundred API calls wow provides |
| 15:15.27 | Xinhuan | the number that is glitched is so little hehe |
| 15:15.28 | Xinhuan | anyway |
| 15:15.52 | Xinhuan | it might not really be glitched, or the return results might only be accurate if certain other events occur |
| 15:16.47 | Xinhuan | for example, guild roster and guildie information are not accurate until the first GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE occurs |
| 15:18.55 | Xinhuan | and instance info is usually asynchronous |
| 15:19.34 | Xinhuan | you should look into how the default UI displays the info, what function calls it does, and what event it responds to before it displays any results |
| 15:19.46 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:19.48 | Xinhuan | because if the default UI can display those info accurately |
| 15:19.49 | Cide | Bibi: way to fuck up chrome |
| 15:20.00 | Dewin | I need a good hex editor for Windows. Any favorites to suggest? |
| 15:20.01 | Xinhuan | then so can you! |
| 15:20.20 | Xinhuan | i suggest the Hex-Editor plugin for Notepad++ |
| 15:20.23 | Cide | Dewin: 101 editor is really good but shareware |
| 15:20.39 | Dewin | Xin: Heh, I was eyeing that, and as a bonus I already use Notepad++ |
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| 15:22.11 | zenzelezz | for pure hex editing, I either use Visual Studio or HexEdit |
| 15:24.31 | cremetorte | thanks Xinhuan, but is there a way to get some kind of unique ID from a certain instance ? anybody know? |
| 15:24.42 | Xinhuan | sorry, i've not used that API before |
| 15:25.15 | Xinhuan | i think probably less than 5 ppl in the world have, judging by the number of addons that deal with instance IDs |
| 15:26.27 | cremetorte | you might be right |
| 15:27.02 | AcidWeb | What extracly you need to achive cremetorte? |
| 15:27.35 | Dewin | In case you're curious, the reason I'm looking for a hex editor is because I'm going to be dabbling with model files from Portal2. |
| 15:27.58 | Dewin | mainly, writing a utility to add additional skins without having to use a (not working for Portal 2) model decompiler |
| 15:28.03 | Xinhuan | you can just use model viewers |
| 15:28.10 | cremetorte | my addon has to know how many bosses are dead so it can preload the tactic for the right boss i.e. after a wipe instead of loading the first boss tactics |
| 15:28.24 | Xinhuan | oh right |
| 15:28.36 | Xinhuan | the model viewers/decompilers dont' work for the updated engine |
| 15:28.42 | Xinhuan | used in alien swarm and portal 2 |
| 15:28.46 | Dewin | yeah. |
| 15:28.57 | Dewin | I'm making a coop map. |
| 15:29.01 | AcidWeb | hmm |
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| 15:30.20 | cremetorte | i already have an idea for a workaround but its nasty, kind of large and it would be nicer if the API wasnt glitched |
| 15:30.51 | Cide | cremetorte: just wait for 4.2 and tie it in with the encounter journal |
| 15:31.26 | cremetorte | sorry i dont know what you are talking about, do you have a hyperlink or something for me to read over? |
| 15:31.30 | Cide | yes |
| 15:31.55 | Cide | http://tinyurl.com/6cjkqvo |
| 15:32.00 | cremetorte | thanks |
| 15:32.12 | cremetorte | :P |
| 15:34.24 | AcidWeb | cremetorte: You checked GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining? |
| 15:34.44 | cremetorte | nice but i dont see how that will fix my problem. as i understood it is a kind of enzyclopedia about the bosses nothing about how many bosses are alive in a certain instance |
| 15:35.04 | Cide | what do you mean by preloading tactics? |
| 15:35.08 | cremetorte | AcidWeb, yes but the number of dead bosses remains 0 no matter how many are real dead |
| 15:35.23 | cremetorte | preloading tactics isnt the part that is not working |
| 15:35.25 | AcidWeb | Original UI use that so it must work |
| 15:35.33 | cremetorte | i checked it |
| 15:35.40 | Cide | what do you mean by preloading tactics? |
| 15:35.50 | Cide | as in boss mod tactics? |
| 15:36.24 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net:80/wow/en/forum/topic/2267587125?page=16#311 |
| 15:36.29 | bluspacecow | lolololol costumers |
| 15:36.30 | cremetorte | i wrote RobBossMods and in this addon there are tactics for every heroic Cataclysm boss and there is a pointer "current boss" and after a wipe it automaticly sets to the first boss |
| 15:36.44 | cremetorte | i now want to know how many bosses are already dead so that the pointer can be set properly |
| 15:36.58 | AcidWeb | cremetorte: GetInstanceLockTimeRemainingEncounter |
| 15:37.02 | cremetorte | AcidWeb, yes i know but i tested it in ZG and in blackrock caverns |
| 15:37.03 | Cide | ! I mean come on Blizzard! Get your priorities together! Your Mac user costumers need you now, I mean right now! Please be considerate! We cant play! |
| 15:37.13 | bluspacecow | hahahahahahahahhahaha |
| 15:37.19 | bluspacecow | trololololoolo |
| 15:37.28 | bluspacecow | but they can |
| 15:37.31 | cremetorte | Both GetInstanceLockTimeRemainingEcounter and GetInstanceLockTimeRemaining showed none boss dead although i killed some |
| 15:37.35 | bluspacecow | they can connect to the realms just fine |
| 15:37.40 | AcidWeb | hmm |
| 15:37.40 | Cide | I'm not sure it's very reliable |
| 15:37.45 | Cide | besides, why do you need to preload them |
| 15:37.49 | bluspacecow | its just assinging bindings to their mouse they cant |
| 15:37.50 | Cide | just do it on engagement |
| 15:38.23 | Cide | and by preloading them you can't handle non-linear dungeons |
| 15:38.28 | cremetorte | yeah i know |
| 15:38.43 | cremetorte | but there are not so many |
| 15:39.01 | cremetorte | and ppl like that feature and just ignore that it goes wrong in the few non-linear instances |
| 15:39.05 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:39.07 | Fisker | not so hey Cide |
| 15:39.11 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker ? |
| 15:39.13 | Cide | NOT SO STFU FISKFACE |
| 15:39.34 | bluspacecow | what can i do for you my lovely turnip peach butter farts apricot darling? |
| 15:40.40 | Fisker | umadbro |
| 15:40.47 | cremetorte | AcidWeb, thanks for refering to the 2 functions ;) i tried that in several heroic dungeons after killing the first or the first two bosses |
| 15:40.48 | cremetorte | http://nopaste.dk/p3224 |
| 15:41.03 | AcidWeb | Hmm |
| 15:41.19 | AcidWeb | Most propably they return proper only after INSTANCE_LOCK_START |
| 15:41.37 | cremetorte | !api INSTANCE_LOCK_START |
| 15:41.37 | lua_bot | INSTANCE_LOCK_START: Fires when the player will soon be saved to an instance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/INSTANCE_LOCK_START) |
| 15:42.11 | bluspacecow | lolz fisker |
| 15:42.39 | cremetorte | it eems that it'll fire only once an instance mhh |
| 15:42.48 | cremetorte | *seems |
| 15:43.02 | cremetorte | ill try that |
| 15:43.24 | zenzelezz | "I've even heard of cases where Hunters in World of Warcraft chose spider pets to gain an edge in PvP, if they so happened to be fighting an opponent with that particular fear." - what, do you enter combat and go "hey guys, for the record, I've got arachnophobia!" |
| 15:43.57 | AcidWeb | There are olny one way to overcome that |
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| 15:44.17 | AcidWeb | Fight blindfolded ;d |
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| 15:48.26 | cremetorte | as i already said, some kind of unique ID would also help me a lot but GetInstanceInfo() does only show name and stuff |
| 15:50.01 | bluspacecow | found in mac error report "0x015129d9 _gleLookupHashObject+73" |
| 15:50.11 | bluspacecow | is it looking up hash on the internets ? |
| 15:50.17 | bluspacecow | weed ? |
| 15:50.50 | zenzelezz | 100% speculation, but gle sounds almost like some OpenGL thing |
| 15:51.14 | bluspacecow | me too |
| 15:51.34 | AcidWeb | cremetorte: instanceID - Unique identifier of the saved instance (commonly known as a RaidID) (number) |
| 15:51.44 | AcidWeb | !api GetSavedInstanceInfo |
| 15:51.44 | lua_bot | GetSavedInstanceInfo: Returns information on a specific instance to which the player is saved (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSavedInstanceInfo) |
| 15:51.58 | AcidWeb | But i dont know if it is usable for you |
| 15:53.28 | cremetorte | thnaks unfort. its not usable because it only refers to already saved instances ( all non hero dungeons are not saved ) and when you use LFG tool for going an instance serveral times a day only ONE instance will be saved of the same type |
| 15:53.45 | AcidWeb | Ah. |
| 15:54.01 | bluspacecow | XD 128 MB graphics card |
| 15:54.30 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/17828/parisevaa_vappua_2011.jpg |
| 15:54.41 | cremetorte | but i will do some workaround: if a player was first in instance1 and joins now instance2 i will simply reset the progress of instance1 because i then will assume that he left it finally |
| 15:55.21 | zenzelezz | mikma: what does that say? |
| 15:55.30 | cremetorte | and its not that common that player will resume heroic IDs ( after joining other instances ) nowadays |
| 15:55.45 | Fisker | lolz what bluspacecow ? |
| 15:55.53 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:55.54 | Fisker | tee hee |
| 16:04.57 | mikma | zenzelezz: something funny in finnish, lol lol :P i'm not sure how to translate pärisevä |
| 16:06.36 | mikma | zenzelezz: some times that word is used in old cars with.. leaking exthaust pipe, "pärisevä putki" |
| 16:07.28 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/fun_fun_fun_fun_fun.jpg |
| 16:07.59 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 16:08.55 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1_trolling_stones.jpg |
| 16:11.46 | bluspacecow | ni ni |
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| 16:21.18 | Adys | lol nvidia |
| 16:21.19 | Adys | Fixed a bug causing the X server to hang every 49.7 days on 32-bit platforms. |
| 16:22.39 | zenzelezz | they did a Win95? |
| 16:22.59 | Shirik | lol. |
| 16:23.07 | zenzelezz | that must've only been certain versions of the drivers, I had 180 days uptime at least on 32-bit |
| 16:25.32 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/y7prW |
| 16:27.55 | Shirik | hey mikma |
| 16:27.57 | Shirik | http://tinyurl.com/6ygxbua |
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| 16:28.20 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 16:28.22 | Cide | y u hate me |
| 16:28.26 | Shirik | hey cide |
| 16:28.29 | Shirik | y i hate you :( |
| 16:28.45 | Shirik | oh! Because you didn't answer my chimeron question last night! |
| 16:29.01 | mikma | shirik: fun fun fun fun fun |
| 16:29.05 | Cide | I was sleeping? |
| 16:29.18 | Cide | what was your question? |
| 16:30.18 | mikma | shirik: http://imgur.com/gallery/B7xaM |
| 16:30.41 | Shirik | I forget |
| 16:30.46 | Shirik | It was some crazy-ass strategy |
| 16:31.06 | Cide | for heroic? |
| 16:31.45 | Shirik | oh I remember |
| 16:31.49 | Shirik | one tank |
| 16:32.00 | Adys | mikma: pretty terrible |
| 16:32.05 | Shirik | The double strike could be eaten by a DPS |
| 16:32.12 | Cide | that's fine |
| 16:32.16 | Cide | we have a dps main tank on heroic |
| 16:32.36 | Shirik | or maybe 0 tank |
| 16:32.37 | Shirik | omg |
| 16:32.39 | Shirik | win |
| 16:32.56 | Cide | if you have a plate dps, sure |
| 16:33.06 | Cide | not doable on heroic though! |
| 16:34.22 | Cide | hell double attack can one shot tanks in full epics at that point |
| 16:36.29 | mikma | adys: http://imgur.com/gallery/NRXcH |
| 16:36.58 | Adys | mikma: somewhat better |
| 16:38.39 | Adys | imgur is fucking annoying |
| 16:38.50 | Adys | it keeps signing me out |
| 16:39.24 | Adys | hey Kalroth |
| 16:39.40 | mikma | adys: aww poop |
| 16:39.59 | mikma | adys: beware, i just registered in today so i can downvote everything you like |
| 16:40.07 | Adys | i haven't liked anything |
| 16:40.34 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:40.44 | Adys | im not an idiot who spends 15 hours a day upvoting and downvoting shit on youtube, reddit, imgur or poking people on facebook |
| 16:40.45 | Adys | :P |
| 16:40.51 | Fisker | not so not so hey Cide |
| 16:41.00 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 16:41.04 | Adys | hey Shirik |
| 16:41.08 | Shirik | hey Adys |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 16:41.12 | Adys | hey Fisker |
| 16:41.25 | Fisker | hey mikma |
| 16:41.32 | mikma | fisker: no |
| 16:41.37 | Adys | bam, asocial |
| 16:41.42 | Fisker | yes mikma |
| 16:41.48 | Adys | Shirik: http://i.imgur.com/Mm98z.png |
| 16:43.06 | Fisker | what about it Adys ? |
| 16:43.21 | Adys | everything |
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| 16:43.48 | Shirik | Adys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2S5f5aC78 |
| 16:44.21 | Adys | Shirik: http://www.science20.com/squid_day/squids_spaceseriously-78465 |
| 16:45.01 | airtonix_ | Fisker: gefallen? |
| 16:45.16 | Shirik | I'm out of links so here: http://www.stumbleupon.com/ |
| 16:45.21 | airtonix_ | no |
| 16:45.28 | airtonix_ | chains Shirik to the chair |
| 16:45.33 | Adys | Shirik: http://google.com |
| 16:47.27 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wintoning |
| 16:48.53 | Adys | Shirik: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromium.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f044b238ab465a8769fc656f9c6d23c5a8e37df |
| 16:50.25 | Fisker | i wish i would get 2.3.4 for my optimus 2x soon |
| 16:50.27 | Shirik | Adys: http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:OXY |
| 16:50.32 | Fisker | 404 btw Adys |
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| 16:50.44 | Adys | Shirik: stop linking shit, you're gonna end up in my porn tabs |
| 16:50.56 | Adys | and |
| 16:50.59 | Adys | http://www.amazon.co.uk/St-John-Ambulance-Lockable-Cabinet/dp/B003KK6948/ref=pd_cp_kh_0 |
| 16:51.23 | Fisker | 404!!!!!! |
| 16:51.37 | Adys | Fisker: if i were you I'd check my network for hackers |
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| 16:52.57 | Shirik | Adys: http://www.insitu.com/index.cfm?navid=298&cid=5759 |
| 16:52.57 | Fisker | no Adys |
| 16:53.36 | Adys | Shirik: http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/mac/QuickDraw/QuickDraw-461.html#HEADING461-0 |
| 16:54.09 | Fisker | so |
| 16:54.25 | Fisker | Google is getting sued for optional opt-in location tracking |
| 16:54.27 | Shirik | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd317805(v=vs.85).aspx |
| 16:54.49 | Fisker | wonder why they didn't sue Apple |
| 16:55.41 | Shirik | ok time for shower bye |
| 16:55.46 | Shirik | I need to wash off all these links Adys gave me |
| 16:55.49 | Fisker | joins Shirik |
| 16:55.52 | Adys | WAIT |
| 16:55.53 | Adys | SHIRIK |
| 16:55.58 | Shirik | nope |
| 16:55.58 | Shirik | I win |
| 16:56.01 | Adys | NO |
| 16:56.02 | Adys | WAIT |
| 16:56.06 | Adys | I |
| 16:56.07 | Adys | uh |
| 16:56.12 | Adys | http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2001-05/msg00002.php |
| 16:56.13 | Adys | there! |
| 16:56.15 | Adys | HA! |
| 16:56.16 | Adys | BYE! |
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| 16:58.29 | Arrowmaster | somebody on my trueachievements friendslist is already playing Catherine, international version isnt out till july 26th =( |
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| 17:07.57 | airtonix_ | so Fisker |
| 17:08.05 | airtonix_ | would you agree? |
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| 17:08.50 | airtonix_ | for science? |
| 17:13.29 | Arrowmaster | hmm is gamestop the only ones with this Duke Nukem Forever preorder bonus? |
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| 17:18.19 | airtonix_ | it's a trap! |
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| 17:24.08 | Mikk | Dagmar: BS about the Lua interface in the driver of G15. It works just fine for me, I tested. (Well ok with a G11 but same software) |
| 17:28.12 | Dagmar | Mikk: Not BS. Logitech made it do that at BLizz's request when you run WoW |
| 17:28.36 | Dagmar | If yours isn't doing it then either Blizzard changed their minds, or Logitech changed their minds, or something broke |
| 17:28.59 | Arrowmaster | or you are running an old version of the software? |
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| 17:29.38 | Arrowmaster | its not supposed to let you create any kind of macros with delays in them for wow |
| 17:30.43 | Dagmar | Heck I was trying to make the G-keys act like "furriner" keys so I could eliminate the meta collisions. Stuff would just mindlessly not work |
| 17:32.02 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: possibly old |
| 17:32.21 | Mikk | 3.01.180 |
| 17:32.21 | Thunder_Child | while doing a virus scan on a clients computer i found "2011-03-10 12:53:20210000001----a-w-C:\Fuck.exe" |
| 17:32.27 | Shirik | anyone here familiar with VLAN? I thought I set it up right I got the ID and plugged it into the configuration (and I know the ID's right) but the virtual network adapter isn't getting an IP |
| 17:32.30 | Thunder_Child | i am amused |
| 17:32.36 | Shirik | is it supposed to get an IP? |
| 17:33.03 | Arrowmaster | virtual network adapter? |
| 17:33.04 | Mikk | i've never hooked PCs up to VLANs like that. |
| 17:33.11 | Mikk | always between switches and routers |
| 17:33.25 | airtonix_ | yeah vlans has nothing to do with IP |
| 17:33.28 | Shirik | well theoretically I'm hooked up to a switch somewhere |
| 17:33.29 | Arrowmaster | i created a vlan'd network all connecting to a computer over a trunk line |
| 17:33.43 | Dagmar | Shirik: Linux or Windows/ |
| 17:33.47 | Shirik | windows |
| 17:33.52 | airtonix_ | hoho |
| 17:33.52 | Dagmar | !@#! |
| 17:33.59 | airtonix_ | umadbro? |
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| 17:34.02 | Dagmar | Linux I know. Windows... if it works, it works mainly |
| 17:34.16 | Mikk | the question is probably whether or not the DHCP server is seeing your packets at all |
| 17:34.36 | Mikk | USUALLY you dont set up networks to accept tags from the client sides at all |
| 17:34.36 | Arrowmaster | i used linux when i did it, but i was using 802.1q trunking |
| 17:34.36 | Dagmar | If your'e talking about something like VirtualBox, it doesn't seem to support DHCP relay stuff out of the box |
| 17:34.44 | Shirik | no virtualbox |
| 17:35.18 | Dagmar | We have switches that let the machines set tags because we've got a boooonch of ESX servers |
| 17:35.20 | Shirik | Mikk: I'm 99% sure we do, and I'm fairly certain the reason we do is because we actually have several VLANs running on top of each other |
| 17:35.22 | Mikk | what people usually do is like... vlan tag 1: switchports 1 3 5 7 vlan tag 2: switchports 2 4 6 8 pass everything tagged to port 16 where the router/firewall sits |
| 17:35.23 | airtonix_ | what? |
| 17:35.44 | Shirik | so like the devices all hae the same IP |
| 17:35.48 | airtonix_ | my virtual machines in virtual box get dhcp pakets fine |
| 17:35.49 | Shirik | but they're on different networks |
| 17:35.54 | Shirik | so you pick one network |
| 17:36.01 | Shirik | so you get that set of hardware |
| 17:36.06 | Dagmar | So you've got switchports that are trunked then |
| 17:36.21 | Shirik | I don't know anything about how this is set up >< maybe? |
| 17:36.33 | Arrowmaster | then ask somebody that does |
| 17:36.36 | Adys | Shirik |
| 17:36.43 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: It's saturday :( |
| 17:36.50 | Adys | Shirik: https://github.com/saucelabs/monocle#@_o |
| 17:36.52 | Arrowmaster | why are you doing work on a saturday |
| 17:36.55 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:36.55 | airtonix_ | yeah unless they fucking bother to document it your fucked |
| 17:37.03 | Fisker | would i disagree airtonix_ |
| 17:37.07 | Shirik | Because I find the weekend to be pointless |
| 17:37.12 | airtonix_ | piece of shit |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker | what is catherine Arrowmaster ? |
| 17:37.31 | Dagmar | If you've got one physical switch port that's carrying traffic from more than one VLAN, it's called "trunked" and you likely need to make sure you have the vlan-discriminating stuff set on the interface so it ignores packets with the wrong VLAN tag on them |
| 17:37.35 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: game where you fight off sheepmen with nothing but a pillow while in your boxers |
| 17:38.00 | Dagmar | Conversely depending on how the switch is configured, you may or may not be able to set tags on your packets |
| 17:38.13 | Fisker | sounds like a shitty game Arrowmaster |
| 17:38.17 | Dagmar | Generally you try to not need to set tags at the machine's interface |
| 17:38.35 | Dagmar | ESX = expensive shit eXtreme |
| 17:38.57 | Fisker | also looks like something Fox would run a tv segment on |
| 17:38.59 | Fisker | did they run one? |
| 17:39.05 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvzijjVhfEE |
| 17:39.12 | Arrowmaster | i doubt fox has heard about it yet |
| 17:39.16 | Dagmar | Shirik: As sad as it sounds, if you spend about 5 minutes staring at the output of wireshark or tcpdump it becomes obvious what's going on with the tagging |
| 17:39.31 | Shirik | I think I'll just deal with it on monday :P |
| 17:39.36 | Dagmar | It's literally just a few extra bytes on each frame |
| 17:40.02 | Fisker | btw |
| 17:40.12 | Fisker | how does one create an identical iphone but in the color white |
| 17:40.19 | Fisker | and then have it be thicker than the black one? |
| 17:40.21 | Fisker | herp derp? |
| 17:40.45 | Dagmar | They had to use multiple coats of asshole paint |
| 17:40.53 | Thunder_Child | it's a social commentary Fisker |
| 17:40.55 | Shirik | speaking of which |
| 17:41.03 | Shirik | why is apple releasing a new, identical phone every 6 months |
| 17:41.17 | Thunder_Child | more money |
| 17:41.25 | Dagmar | Because Apple users will merrily suck whatever **** Jobs is selling |
| 17:41.45 | Arrowmaster | even though they cant afford a new phone that often |
| 17:41.52 | Dagmar | Plus if they don't, Android is gonna eat them alive |
| 17:41.55 | Shirik | that's what credit is for, right? |
| 17:41.58 | karl_w_w | Dagmar, are you so offended by steve jobs that you have to censor his first name? :P |
| 17:42.01 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: RIGHT! |
| 17:42.06 | Fisker | I still think it was pretty funny when Steve Jobs said they weren't tracking anyone |
| 17:42.18 | Fisker | and then someone found out they even had a patent for it |
| 17:42.19 | Fisker | lulz |
| 17:42.20 | Dagmar | karl_w_W: His first name ain't four letters and it doesn't begin with a 'c', either. |
| 17:42.24 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 17:43.07 | mikma | dagmar: cunt? |
| 17:43.12 | mikma | dagmar: cock? |
| 17:43.13 | Dagmar | co__ |
| 17:43.19 | Dagmar | There we go |
| 17:44.00 | Dagmar | I'm just waiting for 8G phones. |
| 17:44.17 | Dagmar | 8G: The point at which the monthly bill makes even strong men black out. |
| 17:45.04 | airtonix_ | call for black up |
| 17:46.07 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oGx2dImE8 |
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| 17:49.23 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
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| 17:54.19 | Fisker | hey hey hey jnwhiteh |
| 17:55.24 | jnwhiteh | hi |
| 17:55.25 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: haha |
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| 17:59.45 | jnwhiteh | Touch my barreh |
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| 18:01.06 | Thunder_Child | yea, thats funny. |
| 18:01.19 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: there's not really a bug, other than the fact that the code needs to drop out when there's no 'x' coordinate |
| 18:01.23 | jnwhiteh | its doing the quest lookup properly |
| 18:02.19 | karl_w_w | i tested it myself, it's not :P |
| 18:02.31 | karl_w_w | its trying to set a waypoint for the first quest |
| 18:02.35 | karl_w_w | whichever one u click |
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| 18:03.34 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: I'm pretty sure that's not the case. |
| 18:03.44 | Adys | Maldivia: New torrent - Doctor Who s06e02 - Day of the Moon (30th April 2011) |
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| 18:04.30 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: but I'll look at it again |
| 18:05.00 | Fisker | :O |
| 18:05.01 | Adys | lol |
| 18:05.08 | Adys | torrent downloaded in 59 seconds |
| 18:05.10 | Fisker | how come tvtorrents crashed just after doctor who finished? |
| 18:05.16 | Fisker | giev Adys :< |
| 18:05.21 | Adys | i love private trackers. |
| 18:05.51 | airtonix_ | you in for the long play? |
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| 18:06.17 | DWSR | Adys: Me too. |
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| 18:06.34 | Arrowmaster | now i must wait to see how long until it shows up in my usual place |
| 18:07.08 | airtonix_ | gaiz |
| 18:07.15 | airtonix_ | don't be illegal kay? |
| 18:07.16 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: its because blizzard has 'index' set to 1 |
| 18:07.23 | jnwhiteh | that's the only reason you're seeing this behaviour |
| 18:07.27 | jnwhiteh | so I'll have to code around that. |
| 18:09.43 | DWSR | Is it legal to use ~ for crontab entries? |
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| 18:09.59 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 18:10.00 | Fisker | the FBI will hunt you down |
| 18:10.06 | kraftman | whats the best way to see if a player is offline? |
| 18:10.10 | kraftman | online* |
| 18:10.19 | kraftman | just use /who? or is there any easier way |
| 18:11.16 | Fisker | whispers! |
| 18:11.46 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 18:11.48 | DWSR | Whispers are the easiest. |
| 18:13.13 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 18:13.34 | Adys | Fisker: - Is that a body bag? - Yes it is. - It's empty. - How about that. |
| 18:15.26 | haste | mikma: too much trance, too little braindance |
| 18:15.33 | airtonix_ | prove it |
| 18:15.33 | DWSR | haste: ? |
| 18:15.39 | airtonix_ | umad |
| 18:15.54 | kraftman | how do i check if the whisper succeeded? |
| 18:15.59 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 18:16.03 | Fisker | is that doctor who spoilers? |
| 18:16.18 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:16.35 | Dagmar | Still a bit too early for the Doctor |
| 18:16.42 | haste | DWSR: wut? |
| 18:16.51 | DWSR | haste: What you talkin about? |
| 18:17.04 | Adys | Fisker: it's like the first 5 seconds |
| 18:17.06 | Adys | so no |
| 18:17.08 | haste | DWSR: he linked me some psy-trance |
| 18:17.18 | DWSR | oh /shrug |
| 18:17.19 | Fisker | i disagree Adys |
| 18:17.26 | Adys | i really dont give a shit |
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| 18:18.13 | mikma | haste: brainfart 4 u |
| 18:18.22 | Fisker | i've tought you well Adys |
| 18:18.27 | haste | mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvlW705pDy4 _this_ is the stuff |
| 18:18.29 | mikma | haste: did you see the pop dubstep i linked earlier? |
| 18:18.41 | haste | probably, I'm not much of a dubstep fan either :P |
| 18:18.48 | Adys | you haven't done anything you intolerant knee-cap |
| 18:19.11 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_2Z32qCYBg |
| 18:19.13 | Fisker | The pupil has become the teacher |
| 18:20.55 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 18:21.01 | Fisker | is yours 720p or sd? |
| 18:21.05 | haste | mikma: so stock dubstep it hurts :P |
| 18:21.15 | Adys | sd, i dont care about hd on first watch |
| 18:21.24 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: new version that prints a message instead |
| 18:22.01 | haste | mikma: also like how rebecca black is in suggestions |
| 18:22.10 | mikma | haste: for you! |
| 18:22.13 | Fisker | yus! |
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| 18:24.09 | Fisker | http://www.pcworld.com/article/226679/pepsi_unveils_social_vending_machines.html <-what no? |
| 18:24.46 | Fisker | guess i won't be drinking soda in the future then! |
| 18:26.10 | Fisker | btw mikma |
| 18:26.23 | Fisker | is that billie piper in that video you linked? :o |
| 18:27.06 | Adys | hahahaha |
| 18:27.15 | Adys | so badass. |
| 18:28.11 | DWSR | Fisker: Pepsi fails anyway. |
| 18:28.13 | DWSR | Coke is much better. |
| 18:28.22 | airtonix_ | both are shit |
| 18:28.33 | Fisker | oh you airtonix_ |
| 18:28.48 | DWSR | airtonix_: nou! |
| 18:28.56 | airtonix_ | no realy |
| 18:29.00 | airtonix_ | they're crap |
| 18:29.04 | Fisker | anyway my point was that if it were the future everyone would start doing it |
| 18:29.23 | DWSR | nou! |
| 18:29.37 | mikma | fisker: maybe |
| 18:30.22 | airtonix_ | be senisble for once |
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| 18:47.33 | Cide | Shirik: HI |
| 18:48.06 | Arrowmaster | ok it seems my cable caps were increased |
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| 18:48.40 | Arrowmaster | just downloaded something and it stayed way above my old cap the entire time so it wasnt the powerboost making it fast |
| 18:48.56 | Arrowmaster | now to figure out why im only getting half of what i should be on upstream tests |
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| 18:50.08 | Jamash | So Hunters are all about eyepatches now |
| 18:50.51 | Adys | Well that was interesting |
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| 19:03.34 | Jamash | spring is here, ah spa-ring is here, life is skittles and life is beer |
| 19:05.46 | DWSR | Jamash: WTB blizzard. And not the company. |
| 19:06.08 | Jamash | DWSR: roll a mage |
| 19:06.15 | DWSR | Not cold enough |
| 19:06.27 | karl_w_w | turn your spell detail up |
| 19:07.03 | DWSR | karl_w_w: Even over 9000, still not cold enough |
| 19:07.29 | Jamash | hijack a tanker truck full of liquid nitrogen |
| 19:08.04 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 19:08.08 | DWSR | wtb global ice age. |
| 19:08.09 | DWSR | kthx. |
| 19:08.10 | karl_w_w | hijack a tanker truck full of superfluid helium |
| 19:08.18 | DWSR | hijack the sun. |
| 19:08.20 | DWSR | And turn it off. |
| 19:08.29 | DWSR | Then cackle. |
| 19:08.35 | DWSR | Despair, so delicious. |
| 19:08.50 | Cairenn | seriously injuries DWSR |
| 19:08.52 | Jamash | A day without sun would be... night. |
| 19:09.01 | karl_w_w | dis pear* |
| 19:09.23 | DWSR | Cairenn: I would love endless wintar. |
| 19:09.32 | Cairenn | I would hate it |
| 19:09.34 | karl_w_w | i wonder how cold it would get in just 1 day |
| 19:09.37 | DWSR | Moreso because of the despair it would cause EVERYONE else. |
| 19:09.52 | DWSR | karl_w_w: In just 1 day it would easily drop below world record temperatures. |
| 19:10.02 | karl_w_w | when u consider how far the temperature drops just a few hours after the sun goes down |
| 19:10.25 | karl_w_w | still, warmer than liquid helium |
| 19:10.29 | DWSR | Prolly. |
| 19:10.38 | DWSR | Don't forget all of the heat that the human population generates. |
| 19:10.43 | DWSR | And the plants and so-forth. |
| 19:11.29 | Jamash | hey baby, has the sun gone out or are you just happy to see me? |
| 19:11.43 | DWSR | rofl |
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| 19:11.45 | DWSR | New pickup line. |
| 19:12.14 | karl_w_w | i dont think it would work |
| 19:14.17 | DWSR | karl_w_w: Meh. |
| 19:14.23 | DWSR | Can't be worse than some of the others that I've heard. |
| 19:14.29 | DWSR | That must only work on girls that have been slipped roofies. |
| 19:22.15 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
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| 19:23.44 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 19:25.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:25.52 | karl_w_w | hey Shirik |
| 19:25.58 | DWSR | hey Fishirik |
| 19:27.24 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 19:33.09 | karl_w_w | hey yourself |
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| 19:34.38 | DWSR | HEY ME |
| 19:34.42 | DWSR | HEY MR WILSON |
| 19:35.08 | Shirik | DWSR is mr. wilson? |
| 19:35.32 | DWSR | No, I'm dennis. |
| 19:37.43 | karl_w_w | dennis wilson senior? |
| 19:40.25 | DWSR | The 5th |
| 19:42.56 | airtonix_ | 76m3c7dab2c9\ |
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| 19:53.47 | Fisker | oh my god Shirik |
| 19:54.59 | Cide | 91 |
| 19:54.59 | Shirik | http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/h0pef/til_high_quality_colour_photography_has_existed/ |
| 19:56.02 | Fisker | oh my goooooooood Shirik |
| 19:56.12 | Fisker | i was cleaning out a 6-1 threat |
| 19:56.14 | Fisker | and it was insane |
| 20:01.24 | Adys | Shirik: old. |
| 20:01.41 | Shirik | :/ |
| 20:01.42 | Adys | which kind of defeats the whole TIL thing |
| 20:03.22 | Adys | neat, hadnt seen http://i.imgur.com/tXl3R.jpg before |
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| 20:10.40 | Shirik | YEAH |
| 20:10.44 | Shirik | NOT SO OLD NOW HUH ADYS |
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| 20:19.28 | Tuller | ninjamuffins |
| 20:25.56 | Jamash | recommend me a format that can generate text, html and (preferably) wikicode output for program documentation |
| 20:26.45 | karl_w_w | http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/09/19/ |
| 20:26.55 | Cide | http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ ? |
| 20:27.34 | Jamash | keen |
| 20:31.36 | Dagmar | lol |
| 20:31.50 | Dagmar | I love noob tanks that don't listen |
| 20:32.17 | Dagmar | In UK, I said fairly explicitly, "Do not just stand there for Dark Smash and suck it down. MOVE." |
| 20:32.25 | Dagmar | Tank takes not one, not two, but THREE in the face. |
| 20:32.40 | Dagmar | On the third one I let him die, beared up, and took the killing blow |
| 20:32.56 | Dagmar | The timing was delicious. |
| 20:34.33 | karl_w_w | must have been super low dps :P |
| 20:34.53 | karl_w_w | i havent seen a second dark smash since cata shipped, let alone a third |
| 20:34.58 | Dagmar | It didn't need much. Boss was almost down |
| 20:35.44 | Dagmar | Yeah, I get the feeling the tank was just doing it for a bag of blue loot |
| 20:46.05 | Maldivia | adys, have to wait till tonorrow for my DW fix |
| 20:46.17 | Adys | Maldivia: shame, it's a really good ep :) |
| 20:46.34 | mikma | Left 4 Haste 2 |
| 20:47.09 | Maldivia | adys, yeah, but the only net i have right now is via my phone |
| 20:47.43 | Maldivia | with about 25 mb left on this months quota |
| 20:47.43 | Adys | Maldivia: you're weak, when i moved to the uk i was tethering for a month, didnt stop me from dling around 30 gb :P |
| 20:48.03 | Adys | o2 was pissed off, what with the "unlimited data plan", but still ... |
| 20:49.12 | Maldivia | well,i have unlimited as well, they just drop the speed to 64kbit if i reach |
| 20:49.37 | Maldivia | more than 1gb in a month |
| 20:50.23 | Maldivia | and dont really feel like spending all next month at that speed |
| 20:50.35 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/HycjW |
| 20:50.50 | Maldivia | when I'll be home tomorrow afternoon |
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| 20:57.22 | Corrodias | the tank was doing the run for loot? |
| 20:57.28 | Corrodias | why else would you do a run? |
| 20:57.45 | Corrodias | well, reputation and whatever other shiny trinkets they hand out now, i suppose |
| 20:57.49 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/XJyGY |
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| 21:21.31 | Jamash | every time I see someone advertising a BOT pickup I think they're talking about botanica |
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| 21:24.14 | Maldivia | heh |
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| 21:31.12 | Shirik | ~weather K4S2 |
| 21:31.16 | Shirik | what |
| 21:31.27 | Shirik | ~weather 4S2 |
| 21:31.30 | Shirik | fu |
| 21:31.45 | Shirik | http://www.acukwik.com/weather/K4S2 fu purl |
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| 21:32.00 | Shirik | oh there's no METAR today for it. That's strange. |
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| 21:33.14 | Corrodias | hmm. our airport is "open 24 hours" but "Control Tower Hours:5:30A - 8:30P" |
| 21:33.35 | Corrodias | does that mean there is uncontrolled air traffic outside of that time, or that no air traffic is allowed? |
| 21:33.45 | Maldivia | so dont land between 8.30pm and 5.30 am? |
| 21:33.50 | Arrowmaster | probably uncontrolled |
| 21:33.54 | Shirik | it's possible, Corrodias, but it has to be a small airport |
| 21:34.00 | Shirik | There are uncontrolled airports |
| 21:34.17 | Shirik | there's basically just a common frequency and you announce yourself to "Traffic" |
| 21:34.33 | Hjalte | Some random just chose another tank over me because I had gemmed for agility over stamina in my feral tanking set. Sigh. |
| 21:35.07 | Dagmar | Sounds like you dodged a bullet to me |
| 21:35.13 | Arrowmaster | you can land at any small air port without permission or contact, unless the airport has a large white X on each end of the runway to indicate its closed i think |
| 21:35.34 | Corrodias | i see |
| 21:35.54 | Hjalte | Dagmar: Yeah, when I started arguing about it with him, I started feeling the same way. |
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| 21:39.24 | Shirik | also, http://djen.bandcamp.com/track/procepton-2 |
| 21:45.59 | cbreak | http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/ |
| 21:52.35 | foxlit | Whee, booting this PC has become unpredictable |
| 21:53.08 | foxlit | It could power-cycle indefinitely before POST. |
| 21:53.16 | foxlit | It could get to windows, only to stop mid-boot. |
| 21:53.33 | foxlit | It could also work entirely fine. Hurray for technology :( |
| 21:53.36 | Dagmar | cbreak: That pretty much sums up why I'm getting rid of my PS3 and PSP |
| 21:54.16 | Dagmar | Between the lawsuits and the monopolistic behaviour and the technical incompetence, they're no longer a company I with to have any business with |
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| 21:55.24 | cbreak | Dagmar: you forgot the user mocking DRM, the Root Kit invested CD-DAs |
| 21:55.42 | foxlit | Based on those criteria, which company do you wish to have any business with? |
| 21:55.44 | cbreak | and probably a bunch more |
| 21:56.07 | cbreak | I don't think there are many companies that make rootkits |
| 21:56.14 | cbreak | for one, apple and microsoft don't need to |
| 21:56.19 | cbreak | because they make the OS, so they have root anyway |
| 21:56.41 | cbreak | and google isn't technically incompetent |
| 21:56.44 | cbreak | just evil. |
| 21:56.44 | Dagmar | cbreak: Actually that all falls under 'monopolistic behaviour' to me |
| 21:56.56 | Dagmar | Pfft. Google isnt evil |
| 21:57.03 | cbreak | sure they are. |
| 21:57.06 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 21:57.30 | Dagmar | Google cares about doing "cool shit" and that's pretty much the length and breadth of it |
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| 21:57.41 | cbreak | google cares about spying on users |
| 21:57.45 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 21:57.53 | cbreak | because they can use that data for their core bussiness |
| 21:57.55 | cbreak | advertizing |
| 21:58.02 | cbreak | everything they do is for gathering data |
| 21:58.07 | Dagmar | eBay and Amazon, on the other hand, track you for days and days |
| 21:58.19 | cbreak | they run free web based email to send you tailored adds |
| 21:58.26 | foxlit | I suspect I need new RAM :( |
| 21:58.33 | Dagmar | Yep. And their short term memory on that is about as long as a browser reload |
| 21:58.41 | cbreak | they have a free cell phone OS to track your location and send you tailored mobile adds |
| 21:58.51 | cbreak | ever heard about cookies? :) |
| 21:59.00 | foxlit | also bios that doesn't go "oh hey, this thing is rated for 1.5V? LET'S OVERVOLT THAT STUFF!" |
| 21:59.02 | cbreak | if you use google mail, it'll be able to identify you |
| 21:59.10 | Dagmar | I am still seeing ads on ebay, Amazon, and their affiliated vendors (like geeks.com) for things I was looking for months ago |
| 21:59.38 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: buy an xbox, do it |
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| 21:59.45 | Dagmar | Which, considering I spent a bit of time searching for dildos to prove a point, is starting to get annoying |
| 21:59.54 | Arrowmaster | lmao |
| 22:00.03 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: TBH man as much as I hate Microsoft and all they stand for, that's where the money from the sale of the PS3 is going |
| 22:00.25 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you know my gamertag for when you get one |
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| 22:01.35 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:01.36 | Fisker | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:01.39 | Fisker | slaps cbreak around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:01.56 | cbreak | why a trout? |
| 22:02.18 | cbreak | slaps Fisker around with a radiating fugu |
| 22:03.52 | Arrowmaster | imho the problem with sony is a result of it still being a japanese controlled company, theyve done the standard japanese practice of covering up and hiding that anything is wrong and then once confronted start apologizing and that will make everything better |
| 22:04.07 | Ketho | .. radiating fugu? something bad happened? |
| 22:04.14 | Dagmar | Oh at this point apologies don't matter to me |
| 22:04.28 | Dagmar | If you saw what George Holtz said about it, I think he might be dead on |
| 22:04.36 | Corrodias | i didn't see |
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| 22:04.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah i did |
| 22:04.44 | Dagmar | I can't do buisness with a company that has that retarded of a security architecture |
| 22:04.45 | Arrowmaster | and he is dead on |
| 22:05.09 | Corrodias | how retarded? |
| 22:05.11 | Dagmar | The credit card numbers shouldn't have been encrypted... They should have been on a completely separate fucking netework |
| 22:05.25 | Corrodias | on a separate network? how would you USE them? |
| 22:05.31 | Corrodias | the systems have to be connected in some way |
| 22:05.38 | Dagmar | Corrodias: The fundamental problem is that they view the consoles as being within their security boundary, because they have them locked up with DRM |
| 22:05.59 | Arrowmaster | ive had issues with PSN since day 1 that i got my PS3, the entire thing seemed to have been designed wrong, although part of my problems with it are starting to show up on XBL now too |
| 22:06.07 | Dagmar | Corrodias: You pass a token to the server inside that network saying "Such and such user wants to buy item X using payment method Y" and it sends back a confirmation number |
| 22:06.15 | Dagmar | No other sort of shit needs to pass between them |
| 22:06.21 | Fisker | not even that Dagmar |
| 22:06.31 | Fisker | Their security is essentially security by EULA |
| 22:06.36 | Fisker | that's not going to work well in the long run |
| 22:06.39 | Dagmar | Fisker: Pretty much |
| 22:07.31 | Dagmar | I've personally built a CC transaction system that worked almost exactly like that |
| 22:07.35 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 22:07.46 | Corrodias | now believe me, i'll be the last person to defend Sony on pretty much anything |
| 22:07.49 | foxlit | I assume you know how their CC transaction system works? |
| 22:08.07 | Corrodias | i just didn't think it was that silly |
| 22:08.09 | Dagmar | WHen you nail down things to that single channel for communications, it gets a ton easier to keep the CC's secure |
| 22:08.19 | Fisker | know enough to know it wasn't secure |
| 22:08.36 | Dagmar | foxlit: If they can't rule out that the credit card numbers were taken, it means they believe it's possible |
| 22:08.58 | Dagmar | If they'd kept the goddamn things out of the gaming network to begin with and on it's own network with proper controls at the borders, they could be sure |
| 22:09.10 | Fisker | some of the hackers said something about the creditcard also being sent along the wire urlencoded |
| 22:09.20 | Fisker | but the cc info was in plain text apparently |
| 22:09.24 | foxlit | "know enough to know it wasn't secure" << kind of useless, though |
| 22:09.26 | Fisker | along with the password |
| 22:09.42 | cbreak | it's even worse than a few non-secret numbers being stolen |
| 22:09.43 | Dagmar | Useless for them, yes |
| 22:09.46 | Corrodias | yes, it's a big deal, but people should not get too worried |
| 22:09.50 | cbreak | they apparently did not even hash the passwords! |
| 22:09.58 | cbreak | not even a brain dead non-salted hash... |
| 22:10.07 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: like one CA i read about that used 2 machines, one connected to the internet and another connected to nothing at all except that first machine connected via serial port, certs came in from the network, got transferred via serial port signed and then transferred back, without the root cert ever being able to touch the network |
| 22:10.17 | Corrodias | if i have unauthorized transactions on my card, i call my issuer and say they aren't mine. boom, i get a new card, no fraudulent transactions. |
| 22:10.24 | foxlit | cbreak: also meh. |
| 22:10.27 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Damn skippy because that's the right way to do it |
| 22:10.52 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: separate everything out with a restricted medium connecting them |
| 22:10.57 | Dagmar | Corrodias: And in the meantime the bank generally terminates that card |
| 22:11.04 | Corrodias | if i really, really need to buy something in the one or two days before i get my new card, i use a backup card from another issuer that i only ever use when necessary. |
| 22:11.15 | Fisker | It's still has some cost associated with it |
| 22:11.21 | Arrowmaster | less chance of anything going wrong when you have a tightly restricted and controlled pathway |
| 22:11.22 | Fisker | even if it doesn't cost anything for the consumer |
| 22:11.27 | Fisker | and for that reason Sony shall buuuuuuuurn |
| 22:11.36 | cbreak | it costs something to the vendor |
| 22:11.39 | Dagmar | Big waste of my time and irritation is the cost for me |
| 22:11.42 | cbreak | because he won't get the money |
| 22:11.53 | Corrodias | as for personal information, i'd like to see what company -doesn't- have my name, address, phone number, and favorite color by this point |
| 22:13.08 | Arrowmaster | banks (cc companys really) dont seem to care though about fraud, they just write everything off and introduce new ways that might increase fraud just because consumers might like it (referring to stupid rfid cards) |
| 22:13.23 | Corrodias | if SSN numbers are involved, which i'm not sure, well, social security numbers should not be expected to be secret. even if companies treat them that way, they are not unique, and they are not secure. you can't (easily, if at all?) change it every 90 days. |
| 22:14.35 | Arrowmaster | changing a SSN requires appearing infront of a federal judge along with a lot of character witnesses that will testify that you are you, such as family members |
| 22:14.45 | Corrodias | knowing a short string of numbers assigned to you has never been proof of identity, especially when so many companies keep track of it anyway. |
| 22:16.16 | cbreak | how long is a US social security number? |
| 22:16.22 | Corrodias | 9 digits |
| 22:16.35 | cbreak | hmm. The one in switzerland is 13 digits |
| 22:16.53 | cbreak | that's for a population of 7 million |
| 22:17.11 | Corrodias | do they bother to make them unique? |
| 22:17.18 | cbreak | I don't know |
| 22:17.29 | Maldivia | the Danish is 10, but the first 6 are day, month, year, and for the last four there are only about 500 valid combination for each gender |
| 22:17.33 | Corrodias | america fails at that once in a while. seems common among people with the same name in the same state, as i recall. |
| 22:17.34 | cbreak | it encodes dates and a sequential number I think |
| 22:17.40 | cbreak | and have a few test digits for redundancy |
| 22:18.04 | cbreak | well, with 9 digits that's not surprising |
| 22:18.11 | cbreak | you have like, 600 million people? |
| 22:18.19 | cbreak | and 1 billion possible numbers |
| 22:18.29 | cbreak | if you use one digit as test digit, boom |
| 22:20.03 | Maldivia | refix with state would help |
| 22:20.08 | Maldivia | prefix* |
| 22:32.22 | foxlit | Maldivia: "the last four there are only about 500 valid combination for each gender" what gives? |
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| 22:59.19 | Mikk | same as denmark, the last digit is a checkdigit |
| 22:59.25 | Mikk | (in sweden) |
| 22:59.30 | Mikk | so it's only 3 digits for uniqueness |
| 22:59.35 | Mikk | half of which are male, half female |
| 23:12.47 | cbreak | so better hope that less than 1k people are born per day, and less than or equal to half of them are of each gender. |
| 23:14.03 | foxlit | danish CPR numbers no longer have check digits. |
| 23:14.16 | foxlit | For the funniest reason. |
| 23:14.57 | foxlit | Besides, there's nothing that requires a check digit to be an actual digit -- could merely dedicate some bits to that :) |
| 23:17.53 | Eridius | one solitary digit _is_ just some bits |
| 23:18.26 | cbreak | you could dedicate half of each digit to it |
| 23:19.00 | foxlit | The point was that you don't have to spend /all/ of them, so calculations like "one check digits, leaving three proper digits, so 1k combinations!" are making an assumption. |
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| 23:23.44 | foxlit | At the risk of making the opposite point, the actual number of checksummable IDs is "approximately 270 per gender per day" |
| 23:26.53 | Shirik | Sense: Life makes none. The rules you choose to live by should only limit your distress, and never your freedom. |
| 23:36.47 | Mikk | foxlit: buh, how do you arrive at that? |
| 23:37.22 | foxlit | The authority responsible for assigning those numbers published a report that essentially states that. |
| 23:38.45 | foxlit | Essentially, the algorithm isn't "pick three numbers sequentially. Generate a forth." |
| 23:39.31 | Mikk | aha, okay. |
| 23:49.38 | Shirik | ajowfejwoajfewa |
| 23:49.42 | Shirik | Sealed tournament tomorrow |
| 23:49.49 | Shirik | I suck at sealed. Ackis come with me so I don't get last place. |
