| 00:00.01 | Adys | yes and no |
| 00:00.04 | Xinhuan | in theory, you can have as much macros as you have memory for in your system |
| 00:00.10 | Xinhuan | but in practice, you will run out of memory |
| 00:00.12 | kesor | whats the "no"? |
| 00:00.21 | Adys | the no is, they wont be stored serverside |
| 00:00.24 | Adys | they'll be virtual |
| 00:00.36 | Adys | also im not sure whether you can execute virtual macros |
| 00:00.37 | Adys | Shirik ? |
| 00:00.37 | kesor | yeah, I don't mind them being virtual ... its part of the addon. |
| 00:00.40 | Xinhuan | depends on what type of macro you are talking about |
| 00:00.43 | kesor | sure I can, it works. |
| 00:00.49 | Adys | k then you'll be fine |
| 00:01.03 | kesor | "<Attribute name="macrotext" type="string" value="/cast [@focus,help,nodead][@mouseover,help,nodead][help][@player][] Lifebloom" />" have this in my xml file right now, and it works as a proper macro. |
| 00:01.46 | kesor | :wq |
| 00:01.48 | kesor | wc :) |
| 00:01.52 | Adys | nice |
| 00:01.55 | Xinhuan | i don't think <Attribute> is a valid xml tag in wow |
| 00:02.18 | Xinhuan | not sure :P |
| 00:02.27 | Xinhuan | most of us in this channel don't use xml |
| 00:02.40 | Xinhuan | because its generally too verbose |
| 00:02.46 | Adys | most of us in this channel don't even play wow |
| 00:02.50 | Adys | in fact, what's wow? |
| 00:03.22 | kesor | I have one single file in my addon, it has this: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149015 |
| 00:03.28 | kesor | well, two files if you include the .toc |
| 00:04.00 | kesor | but because xml is fugly ... i'll do it in a loop instead that will load these texts from a nice lua table |
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| 00:05.03 | kesor | i'm making an addon that loads keybindings and macros for each class/spec from hardcoded tables held in lua... |
| 00:05.51 | kesor | so when a wow player rolls a new toon, and it has no buttons at all ... enabling this addon will "fix" it |
| 00:06.11 | kesor | i mean no keybinds/toolbar actions |
| 00:06.37 | kesor | if anyone knows something exactly like this that exists already, then maybe i'm just wasting my time :/ |
| 00:07.05 | Arrowmaster | i thought new characters had all the spells they knew already on their actionbar |
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| 00:07.53 | kesor | yes, but then another spell gets added ... and another one, and more, and more, ... etc. and the newbie toon puts them all in sequence on his toolbar and is very happy to be a packpaddling clicker ... |
| 00:08.41 | kesor | but its really not a good practice to have important actions on a key like "8", or "9", or "-", ... |
| 00:08.52 | kesor | if you want to use the keyboard to activate them that is. |
| 00:09.15 | mckenziemc1 | the automatic placement stops at level 10 or so |
| 00:09.23 | karl_w_w | I don't understand that |
| 00:09.32 | kesor | and they automatic placement comes without any macros :) |
| 00:10.15 | karl_w_w | surely if somebody is smart enough to use the addon, they'd be smart enough to place their abilities themselves |
| 00:10.33 | Arrowmaster | still doesnt seem like something a new player would even know to use, and anybody that does know about the addon probably wont need it |
| 00:10.57 | kesor | its not for new players, its for experienced players who want to get better ... and their alts (who are new) |
| 00:11.03 | Arrowmaster | remember over half of all wow players dont use any addons at all ever |
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| 00:11.18 | karl_w_w | that cant be true anymore |
| 00:11.22 | kesor | i know, they are not my target. my target audience is myself and my own alts ... |
| 00:11.22 | Adys | Cide ? |
| 00:12.42 | karl_w_w | so what was the first addon everybody used? :P |
| 00:12.59 | kesor | just imagine that a player has 5-6 (or more) alts, and each add has the "mount" key in some other place ... or the "interrupt" key in yet another new place for each ... its damn confusing and is not practicing the human muscle memory. this addon has all the same spells for all the classes/specs more or less on the same buttons. |
| 00:13.05 | mckenziemc1 | i'm not sure what your addon is trying to do but... how do you handle the fact that abilities will need to move around as you learn things if you want to have the "best" setup at any level -- or is that irrelevant? |
| 00:13.13 | Adys | karl_w_w: i dont remember what it was, but it sure had a minimap button. |
| 00:13.24 | Cide | Adys ? |
| 00:13.26 | Xyphoid | i think it was healbot for me |
| 00:13.33 | Adys | Cide: you ever received emails with django? |
| 00:13.44 | Cide | with django? |
| 00:13.49 | kesor | mckenziemc1: i will keybind the abilities, before they even exist. like SetBinding("SHIFT-Q", "CLICK HeroismButton") |
| 00:13.57 | Adys | as in, processed received emails |
| 00:14.12 | Cide | I have written a script that reads a mailbox but that's not with django |
| 00:14.24 | Cide | it's part of a django project though |
| 00:14.26 | Xyphoid | healing as feral in aq20 when i had to look at the floor to get the framerate past 3 was fun times |
| 00:14.30 | karl_w_w | mine was tomtom, cos i thought waypoints meant i could autorun along a set course :P |
| 00:15.18 | Adys | Cide: I need users to be able to send an email to <hash>@project.com, and it would be redirected to <djangouser@email.com> |
| 00:15.30 | mckenziemc1 | kesor: what i mean is that instead of having "dead" keys before the ability is available, i usually put another less important (but available) spell there in the meantime |
| 00:15.34 | kesor | Adys: just use e-mail aliases. |
| 00:15.49 | Adys | hash is a ref to a thread |
| 00:16.02 | Adys | ish |
| 00:16.18 | kesor | mckenziemc1: that beats the purpose, because it makes muscle memory confused. if you have a mount on 9 toons that is bound to the "Y" key, why would you put it on the "2" key for a new alt that has it free? |
| 00:16.44 | karl_w_w | you wouldn't |
| 00:16.44 | Arrowmaster | your new alt already has a mount? |
| 00:16.51 | kesor | well, at level 20 i guess. |
| 00:17.06 | karl_w_w | but then, it takes all of about 5 seconds to bind a key |
| 00:17.07 | Arrowmaster | pff, back in my day we had to wait until level 40 |
| 00:17.09 | mckenziemc1 | i don't do it to that extremity |
| 00:17.36 | Adys | Cide: basic idea is, django sends email with from: <hash1@project.com>, user1@gmail.com replies to that hash, and it gets sent to user2@gmail.com with from: <hash2@gmail.com> |
| 00:17.43 | kesor | karl_w_w: not sure people bother to synchronize keys across all their toons ... this addon is for me, a lazy person. |
| 00:17.43 | Adys | er |
| 00:17.44 | Adys | hash1* |
| 00:18.01 | Cide | I can give you my source code for polling a pop3 mailbox for new mails |
| 00:18.12 | Cide | if that's what you want |
| 00:18.19 | Adys | im not sure it is |
| 00:18.30 | Adys | i'm guessing a better solution is using some binding for some mail server |
| 00:18.31 | Adys | no? |
| 00:18.35 | kesor | Adys: what you describing should probably not be done in django though, it should be done in configuration of some mail server like postfix. |
| 00:18.43 | Cide | yeah |
| 00:18.47 | Adys | yeah kesor |
| 00:18.51 | Cide | ideally you want a mail server hook |
| 00:18.57 | Cide | like you'd use a git commit hook or whatever |
| 00:19.07 | kesor | Adys: maybe you can generate the configuration with some logic you have in django and its tables .... |
| 00:19.17 | Adys | well the users are django users |
| 00:19.25 | kesor | Adys: and use Celery, or cronjobs to run this python code from time to time. |
| 00:19.42 | kesor | Adys: then just query the auth_users table in your db. |
| 00:20.16 | Adys | more likely to be a hook as Cide said, needs to be instantaneous |
| 00:20.43 | Cide | well he's suggesting polling python code that updates the mail server config |
| 00:20.52 | Cide | so the mail server forwards it immediately |
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| 00:21.23 | kesor | Adys: if I understand you correctly, you want to write a mail-forwader inside a django app ... |
| 00:21.48 | kesor | Adys: something that pulls mails, and pushes them back slightly changed .... but thats what you have proper servers for, like postfix. |
| 00:21.48 | Adys | i dont really care where the code resides, but it'll have to interact with django at some point |
| 00:21.59 | Adys | right |
| 00:23.30 | Adys | http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3117/ |
| 00:23.37 | Adys | i had to blink a lot to see the Created: date |
| 00:23.51 | Arrowmaster | use a proper mail server like postfix or exim and configure it to call an external application to process every mail, have that app (or just python script) connect to your django database |
| 00:24.13 | Adys | I see |
| 00:25.29 | Adys | gmail acting up :( |
| 00:25.39 | Cide | bleh |
| 00:25.56 | Thunder_Child | gmail is good, but not perfect |
| 00:26.05 | kesor | you can't use gmail to forward spoofed e-mails, you need to use ssl and your own user/password to connect to it when you want to use it as a mail forwarder. |
| 00:26.13 | A-KO | gmail doesn't support digital signatures/certificates via the web |
| 00:26.20 | Adys | that's not what i meant |
| 00:26.24 | Adys | i just meant i cant access my email. |
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| 00:26.44 | Cide | speaking of not accessing email |
| 00:26.46 | kd3 | huh, another big build today |
| 00:26.49 | Cide | halp /usr/bin/ld: warning: libboost_thread-mt.so.1.41.0, needed by /usr/lib64/libmongoclient.so, may conflict with libboost_thread-mt.so.1.46.1 |
| 00:27.07 | Adys | you built libboost yourself? |
| 00:27.13 | Cide | one of them... |
| 00:27.16 | Cide | 1.46 |
| 00:27.21 | Adys | get rid of the other one |
| 00:27.23 | kesor | Cide, can't you just symlink those and hope for backwards compatibility? might be just ldd stuff. |
| 00:27.42 | Cide | the other one was installed by the package manager |
| 00:27.45 | Cide | seems scary to delete that |
| 00:27.52 | Adys | ubuntu yeah? |
| 00:27.52 | Arrowmaster | the reason for the version in the file name is because they arent backwards compatible |
| 00:27.55 | Cide | fedora |
| 00:27.59 | Adys | oh |
| 00:28.00 | Adys | then i dont know |
| 00:28.02 | Arrowmaster | so no you cant symlink them |
| 00:28.10 | Adys | but i got rid of libboost on ubuntu without issues |
| 00:28.15 | Cide | I want to use 1.46 |
| 00:28.17 | Adys | only some kde app needed it |
| 00:28.26 | kd3 | rpm -e libboost? |
| 00:28.33 | Adys | also that's just a warning |
| 00:28.41 | Cide | right |
| 00:28.52 | Cide | but my file segfaults on execution so I figure it's something I should look into |
| 00:28.53 | kesor | ok, back to my addon. thanks a lot for the help everyone. |
| 00:28.56 | kd3 | cripes, what the hell is in this build? 53.7 megs just for the base patch |
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| 00:29.05 | Adys | kd3: localization |
| 00:29.08 | Adys | im betting |
| 00:29.21 | Arrowmaster | Cide: probably calling the wrong one |
| 00:29.27 | Cide | yeah, that's my thought too |
| 00:29.31 | Adys | if i had to bet even more, I'd say you're getting the esmx maps |
| 00:29.32 | Thunder_Child | Adys: so is a sign saying '20,000 Volts' on a fence |
| 00:29.34 | Cide | it uses the 1.46 headers but calls 1.41 libs |
| 00:29.36 | Cide | or something |
| 00:29.37 | kd3 | in the -base file? that usually goes in the -aaBB files |
| 00:29.46 | Adys | oh |
| 00:29.47 | Adys | then i dunno |
| 00:29.51 | Adys | get me a listfile and ill tell ya |
| 00:30.05 | kd3 | soon as I'm done downloading, then I get to turn around and start the portal2 preload |
| 00:30.21 | Cide | did I mention I preloaded portal 2 in 7.4 mb/s? |
| 00:30.24 | Cide | <3 |
| 00:30.39 | Adys | i don't think you preload "in" mbps |
| 00:30.44 | Adys | you preload with mbps in s |
| 00:30.57 | Adys | also when's it out? |
| 00:31.03 | kd3 | I would say something, but I'm already pissed off about how murphy's screwed me over this morning with the power outage |
| 00:31.04 | kd3 | a week from today |
| 00:31.24 | Adys | okay |
| 00:31.27 | Adys | here's my question |
| 00:31.30 | Cide | any ideas how I can tell g++ to use a specific version of the libs? |
| 00:31.37 | Adys | why do you care whether you preload in 1 minute of 5 minutes |
| 00:31.40 | Adys | if it's out a week from now |
| 00:31.46 | Cide | mostly for fun |
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| 00:32.01 | kd3 | LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/your/desired/libboost.so foo |
| 00:32.02 | kd3 | ? |
| 00:32.07 | Cide | that's such a hack though |
| 00:32.22 | kd3 | but if you're trying to override system libraries? |
| 00:32.23 | Adys | download some porn, at least you'll be able to excuse the boner you're getting out of your dl speeds :p |
| 00:33.05 | Adys | im mostly saying that because my cable upgrade only boosted me to 6.2mbps avg |
| 00:33.07 | Adys | but meh |
| 00:33.11 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 00:33.16 | Xinhuan | bioshock2 on sale today |
| 00:33.16 | kd3 | in other news, transformers blowing up are loud |
| 00:33.18 | Xinhuan | $4.99 on steam |
| 00:33.22 | Cide | I don't really care about using 1.46 over 1.41 |
| 00:33.26 | kd3 | also knows what a transformer blowing up sounds like now |
| 00:33.33 | Cide | just been having massive issues overall with this crap |
| 00:34.08 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt have tried to compile your own libraries then |
| 00:34.20 | Cide | didn't work prior to that either :P |
| 00:34.43 | Arrowmaster | oh then its probably something unrelated |
| 00:35.03 | Cide | nah, I'm just bad at this |
| 00:35.15 | Cide | before it didn't compile, now it compiles with that warning and segfaults |
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| 00:38.40 | kd3 | yup, the localized portion of this build was only 137k. so, let's see what's in there... |
| 00:39.57 | kd3 | oh, that's new. "Launcher cannot obtain patching information. Please check your internet configuration." |
| 00:40.07 | mckenziemc1 | no it isn't |
| 00:40.12 | kd3 | new to me |
| 00:40.12 | mckenziemc1 | unplug your router more often |
| 00:40.16 | mckenziemc1 | :p |
| 00:40.16 | Adys | yea it's not |
| 00:40.32 | Adys | its when the mfil fails to download |
| 00:40.58 | mckenziemc1 | i thought that caused a fatal exception not the warning dialog |
| 00:41.07 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> Topic: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || BC Tickets on Sale May 21 and 25th. http://bit.ly/dR0B0R |
| 00:41.26 | Xinhuan | what's BC tickets |
| 00:41.29 | Xinhuan | OH BLIZZCON |
| 00:41.40 | A-KO | I want to go but I might not--paying off some debts |
| 00:41.40 | A-KO | :( |
| 00:41.57 | foxlit | It's still in US. |
| 00:41.57 | A-KO | if I get tickets I'd have to get everything together now/soon, and then that defeats the purpose lol |
| 00:41.59 | kd3 | oh, music |
| 00:42.01 | Thunder_Child | $500 eh? |
| 00:42.05 | Thunder_Child | hmmm.... |
| 00:42.07 | kd3 | looks like that's what it is |
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| 00:42.25 | Xinhuan | you know, its seriously stupid they sell tickets 5 months in advance cos most ppl with work can't tell if they can take leave off 5 months ahead of time |
| 00:42.39 | mckenziemc | speaking of connection issues... |
| 00:42.53 | Thunder_Child | Xinhuan: not really |
| 00:42.58 | Thunder_Child | most people can request time off |
| 00:43.05 | Thunder_Child | besides, they have to plan as well |
| 00:43.23 | Xinhuan | most i know can't |
| 00:43.31 | Thunder_Child | you know me. |
| 00:43.32 | Thunder_Child | i can |
| 00:43.36 | Wobin | Xinhuan: most places I've worked at have business plans of work ahead to be able to do that |
| 00:43.36 | foxlit | why so fail, Launcher? |
| 00:43.40 | Xinhuan | they are like "have to see if my boss lets me take leave, or if there's no important projects" |
| 00:43.47 | Xyphoid | and you have to book travel |
| 00:44.37 | Thunder_Child | and blizzard needs to rent all of that stuff and coordinate with all of the sponsors. it would be impossible to do say... 3 months before |
| 00:44.47 | Thunder_Child | on the off chance they dont get enough people, etc. |
| 00:44.55 | foxlit | When has that ever been a problem? |
| 00:45.08 | Thunder_Child | i'm just saying, it could happen |
| 00:45.12 | Thunder_Child | they need to make usre |
| 00:45.13 | Thunder_Child | sure* |
| 00:45.24 | foxlit | Not unless someone wiped out the eastern seaboard. |
| 00:45.45 | Thunder_Child | i think there would be enough people going w/o the eastern seaboard |
| 00:46.01 | Wobin | actually.. I really really don't see why selling tickets five months in advance -isn't- done |
| 00:46.26 | Wobin | it'd be stupid to sell them one month in advance |
| 00:46.39 | Wobin | you'd be leaving yourself too little time for emergencies |
| 00:46.43 | Wobin | if they had to hire more space |
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| 00:46.58 | Adys | Um |
| 00:47.04 | foxlit | Again, wrong sort of emergency |
| 00:47.05 | Adys | why would they need to hire more space? |
| 00:47.14 | Wobin | and there are probably legal requirements they'd have to cover for supporting such a large gathering |
| 00:47.24 | kd3 | they're maxing out the anaheim convention center, there's no more space to hire |
| 00:47.28 | Wobin | which would require time in advance notice to the government |
| 00:47.35 | Adys | they're not kd3 |
| 00:47.41 | Adys | at least not last year, dunno about this year |
| 00:47.54 | Wobin | see, and they -won't- know |
| 00:47.57 | Wobin | til they sell the tickets |
| 00:47.58 | foxlit | I don't see how "more people show up" could ever be a problem. |
| 00:48.06 | foxlit | They determine the number of tickets that they make available. |
| 00:48.08 | Adys | they're selling a limited amount of tickets |
| 00:48.16 | Wobin | foxlit: because most places are only rated for a certain number of people? |
| 00:48.27 | kd3 | like there's any possibility at all of tickets not selling out in 30 seconds? |
| 00:48.27 | Adys | yes, and they know how many in advance |
| 00:48.31 | Adys | yeah |
| 00:48.35 | Wobin | and they can sell more! |
| 00:48.39 | Wobin | and make more money! |
| 00:48.42 | Adys | if by 30 seconds you mean 3 and a half second |
| 00:48.53 | Wobin | MOAR MONEY |
| 00:48.54 | kd3 | except that they said that they won't sell more because then it becomes a cattle call |
| 00:49.04 | kd3 | not that it isn't already bad |
| 00:49.05 | airtonix | i detect sarcasm |
| 00:49.06 | Wobin | when -hasn't- it been a cattle call? |
| 00:49.08 | Adys | what were the numbers last year again, 6.5 and 7.5 seconds? |
| 00:49.09 | mckenziemc | cues quiescens |
| 00:49.45 | Xyphoid | no matter when you put tickets up for sale some people won't be able to go due to work |
| 00:49.52 | foxlit | kd3: did you find a way around the launcher issue? |
| 00:50.19 | kd3 | neg; checking that it's not a wine misconfig first |
| 00:50.30 | Adys | it wont be |
| 00:50.31 | foxlit | I have the same error on native windows. |
| 00:50.32 | Thunder_Child | the simple fact is that the less time blizzard has to plan the more difficult it is for them |
| 00:50.33 | Xyphoid | personally i could easily book time off in 5 months but 1 month is tricky |
| 00:50.37 | Adys | it's a ptr misconfig |
| 00:50.39 | kd3 | oh, then, heh |
| 00:50.45 | kd3 | fires up gmail |
| 00:51.02 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: is the Benefit dinner going to conflict with the wowuidev dinner? |
| 00:51.30 | Cairenn | not sure |
| 00:51.42 | Thunder_Child | well it is thursday night |
| 00:51.50 | Cairenn | if it's on the Thursday night again, then yeah, probably |
| 00:51.52 | Thunder_Child | "Thursday, October 20, 6:30 p.m. PT - 10:30 p.m. PT" |
| 00:51.59 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 00:52.21 | Cairenn | because the Thursday night really is the best night for the rest of us to try to get together |
| 00:52.22 | kd3 | so while I'm waiting for that to get fixed... |
| 00:52.24 | kd3 | fires up steam |
| 00:52.44 | Adys | Cairenn: I'll be at the benefit dinner this year unfortunately =\ |
| 00:52.50 | Cairenn | awww :( |
| 00:52.57 | karl_w_w | who broke mmo-chamption? |
| 00:53.08 | kd3 | bibi, who else? |
| 00:53.10 | karl_w_w | chamption? |
| 00:53.33 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: works for me |
| 00:53.41 | karl_w_w | works yes |
| 00:53.44 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: two identical news posts |
| 00:53.44 | Arrowmaster | Adys: how do you know that already? i thought they had limited tickets for it and they werent for sale yet |
| 00:53.45 | mckenziemc | schrodinger effect |
| 00:54.02 | Cairenn | we've tried holding it on the Friday night, we've tried holding it on the Saturday night ... the one that has worked the best for the most people is the Thursday |
| 00:54.11 | Adys | the benefit dinner tickets dont sell as fast as the blizzcon tickets Arrowmaster |
| 00:54.26 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: i'm not seeing that |
| 00:54.36 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: oh, nvm me |
| 00:54.42 | Thunder_Child | right titles, wrong content |
| 00:55.53 | karl_w_w | its hard to disagree with a children's hospital, but im sure they could have found a better charity |
| 00:56.33 | Thunder_Child | unemployed programmers charity? |
| 00:57.38 | karl_w_w | why can't children in orange county go to normal hospitals? :P |
| 00:57.54 | karl_w_w | maybe the toilet seats are too big |
| 00:57.55 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 00:58.05 | Adys | Cide? |
| 00:58.11 | Cide | hi |
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| 00:58.23 | karl_w_w | seems more like a "hey look, we like kids!" by blizzard |
| 00:58.41 | Cide | and they like their own kids to have good care? :P |
| 00:58.51 | Cide | good decision imo |
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| 00:59.20 | Cide | Adys? |
| 00:59.34 | Adys | Cide: this? http://dpaste.com/531479/ |
| 01:00.18 | Thunder_Child | you two are proof that humans suck at communication |
| 01:01.01 | Cide | seems about right |
| 01:01.06 | Adys | who? |
| 01:01.24 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 01:02.18 | karl_w_w | did you know most of our brain power is used for communication |
| 01:02.24 | Adys | wat? |
| 01:02.45 | Cide | so THAT'S why Adys is only running at 10% power |
| 01:02.51 | Adys | waaaaaat |
| 01:02.57 | Adys | durrrrrs |
| 01:03.40 | Cide | herp derp |
| 01:03.56 | karl_w_w | buh? |
| 01:04.38 | Adys | Cairenn: you got a min? |
| 01:05.22 | Cairenn | Adys: yup |
| 01:05.48 | mckenziemc | only a few seconds left now though |
| 01:06.10 | karl_w_w | he doesn't have a reason, he's just keeping track of her free rime |
| 01:06.11 | mckenziemc | oh nvm, that was about 12 seconds before |
| 01:06.11 | karl_w_w | time |
| 01:06.41 | kesor | so, a lot thanks to you guys, I created this little gem: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149017 ... can someone exprienced in lua take a peek and tell me if I did something completely stupid in there? as it's my first code in both lua and wowui. |
| 01:07.01 | Cide | bname is a global |
| 01:07.13 | kesor | right! ... that was lame of me. |
| 01:07.33 | Cide | and you could probably create a global table and use that as an addon namespace |
| 01:07.34 | foxlit | but np :P |
| 01:08.49 | kesor | so now i'll have a loop that goes over a table of macros and binds them to keys without taking player's macro slots. |
| 01:08.53 | foxlit | There's nothing terribly wrong with it. |
| 01:10.00 | foxlit | It bears pointing out that SetBinding is meant for permanent bindings, while yours are somewhat ephemeral in nature. |
| 01:10.01 | kesor | so a player can have as many macros as he can click with his mouse/keyboard + modifiers (alt/ctrl/shift). |
| 01:10.15 | kesor | foxlit: yeah, i didn't do SaveBindings() on purpose |
| 01:10.22 | foxlit | There's also SetBindingClick / SetOverrideBindingClick that'd allow you to not have to worry about constructing the "CLICK ".... string |
| 01:10.40 | kesor | foxlit: good point, i'll change that. |
| 01:11.06 | foxlit | And finally, you don't really have to create a new button each time |
| 01:11.58 | foxlit | You can reuse a single button by binding the different macros to click it using different buttons -- nothing says it has to be "LeftButton" :) |
| 01:12.47 | kesor | well, it has to be "a button" so it will work .. can be whichever button, since I use the SetAttribute("type") ... (and not type1, shift-type, etc...) |
| 01:13.28 | foxlit | Two kinds of buttons there :) |
| 01:14.05 | foxlit | Point is, you can reuse a single SecureActionButtonTemplate-inheriting widget for all your bindings by running different macros depending on which "mouse" button was clicked |
| 01:14.07 | kesor | two kinds? ... as far as I've read there are as many buttons as you have on your mouse, (button6 for example), and each comes with alt-/ctrl-/shift- |
| 01:14.35 | kesor | isnt "macrotext" limited in length? |
| 01:14.44 | Adys | CIDE DONT LEAVE ME |
| 01:14.49 | kesor | do you propose I just write very ellaborate macrotexts? |
| 01:14.50 | Cide | when did I leave? |
| 01:14.54 | Adys | I don't know |
| 01:15.13 | foxlit | kesor: yes; no. |
| 01:15.37 | foxlit | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149021 was what I was thinking of |
| 01:16.24 | kesor | foxlit: hmm, didn't see that b1/b2/... syntax in any docs, what does it mean? |
| 01:16.39 | foxlit | It's just a "mouse" button name |
| 01:17.16 | kesor | wait, don't i need to create a new frame each time? |
| 01:17.18 | foxlit | Just like you can tell it to click using LeftMouseButton, you can tell it to click using TotallyImaginaryMouseButtonThatDoesNotExist -- or just b0/b1/b2/b3... |
| 01:17.52 | Cide | since physical clicks happen with mouse buttons, you usually use that |
| 01:17.56 | kesor | and those macrotext-bWhatever will make it unique for each such bWhatever button? |
| 01:18.02 | Cide | but since we're dealing with virtual clicks you can use whatever you want |
| 01:18.04 | foxlit | Yep |
| 01:18.08 | kesor | interesting |
| 01:18.19 | foxlit | :GetAttribute should match them up based on the clicked mouse button |
| 01:18.40 | foxlit | s/mouse button/"button"/ |
| 01:18.42 | kesor | didn't know that, very nice. that was I only create 1 single frame and not a gazillion ... saving on memory. |
| 01:19.03 | kesor | and those "buttons" can be just imaginary strings that I come up with myself then .... |
| 01:19.15 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 01:19.22 | kesor | excellent idea, thanks! :) |
| 01:19.23 | foxlit | You might have to do :RegisterForClicks("AnyUp"), though |
| 01:19.36 | kesor | sure, can do that i think. still will save on memory quite a lot. |
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| 01:21.05 | kesor | maybe i will need to SetAttribute("type", "macro-b1") etc as well ... as that thing is what causing the registrations to happen if I understand correctly |
| 01:21.13 | kesor | or not? |
| 01:21.46 | kesor | ok, will go test it now. |
| 01:23.34 | Adys | does anyone know how to run all plugins by default on file:/// in chrome? |
| 01:28.35 | Wobin | Ackis: every time you tweet achievements, it looks like you're talking to yourself =P "Hey Ackis! I just got this achievement!!" |
| 01:28.58 | karl_w_w | you know what I'm really annoyed about? im playing dragon age 2 and my <spoiler> |
| 01:29.20 | karl_w_w | I didn't want my <spoiler> to <spoiler> |
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| 01:29.43 | Wobin | well you should have <redacted> your <spoiler> before <spoiling> your <spoils> |
| 01:30.03 | Wobin | also, 'save games' |
| 01:30.16 | karl_w_w | now I've had to <spoiler> which I don't like because I find him annoying |
| 01:30.51 | karl_w_w | I could have gone back to an earlier save, but I didn't want to try and change the storyline :P |
| 01:30.53 | foxlit | DA2 has been out for what is its equivalent of ages. |
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| 01:31.01 | foxlit | Quit <spolering> the <spoils> |
| 01:31.16 | Wobin | foxlit: "dragon" ages? |
| 01:31.22 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 01:31.50 | Wobin | karl_w_w: you'll have to go back if you want her in the party, I suspect |
| 01:31.53 | kesor | how can I query attributes of a frame/button? need to debug this ... since it will not work. |
| 01:32.01 | Wobin | you only get the opportunity to recruit her in the first act |
| 01:32.32 | karl_w_w | <spoiler> |
| 01:32.33 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 01:34.15 | mckenziemc | it smells rotten in here |
| 01:34.28 | karl_w_w | she was already in the party Wobin |
| 01:36.33 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/gallery/view/26/109178/196.21 << portal 2 comic |
| 01:37.02 | foxlit | GLaDOS is awesome, even in text form. |
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| 01:38.47 | Wobin | omg |
| 01:38.49 | Cide | yeah, that comic was great |
| 01:38.50 | Wobin | that is awesome |
| 01:39.56 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/gallery/view/26/109178/196.1 is the first page, if it's new to you |
| 01:40.35 | Cide | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/gallery/view/26/109178/196.20 <- first panel is so amazing |
| 01:41.20 | foxlit | graphically, I like the last one better. |
| 01:41.26 | Kraps | got my http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585866-REG/Yamaha_PSRS550B_PSR_S550B_61_Key_Arranger.html ! |
| 01:41.32 | Cide | I was referring to the monologue |
| 01:41.38 | foxlit | The "you know what doesn't rhyme with compliance? Neurotoxin!" line is brilliant |
| 01:41.44 | Cide | that's the one, yeah |
| 01:42.20 | Cide | "If any aperture science employee would like to opt out of this new voluntary testing program, please remember, science rhymes with compliance. Do you know what doesn't rhyme with compliance? NEUROTOXIN." |
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| 01:43.44 | Cowmonster | room full of people...question is anyone actually here? |
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| 01:44.21 | kd3 | possibly. we could just be figments of your irc client's imagination |
| 01:44.44 | Cowmonster | wouldn't be the first time |
| 01:45.07 | Cowmonster | but then what does that say about me if I'm talking to a figment of something else's imagination? |
| 01:46.50 | kesor | foxlit: I rewrote it using your idea with attributes, but it does not work unfortunately ... how can I debug it? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149022 |
| 01:46.58 | foxlit | "The good news is we have a new cat graveyard" |
| 01:47.35 | Cowmonster | I have a problem with scrolling a scrollchild frame. Anyone want to take a crack at solving the issue? |
| 01:47.51 | foxlit | kesor: I notice the distinct lack of registering for AnyUp :) |
| 01:48.04 | kesor | foxlit: oh ... oops :) |
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| 01:48.31 | foxlit | You can always do button:HookScript("OnClick", print) to see what's being clicked. |
| 01:49.14 | kesor | foxlit: thanks for the tip, i'll do that. |
| 01:50.19 | Kraps | Cowmonster: |
| 01:50.24 | Kraps | ~asktoask |
| 01:50.24 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:50.42 | kd3 | what's the issue? |
| 01:50.46 | kesor | foxlit: looks like the widget and the click works correctly, but the SetBindingClick is incorrect somehow ... can you give me a tip how to find that binding and see what it tries to do? |
| 01:51.30 | foxlit | So you get no chat frame output when you press the binding? |
| 01:51.48 | kesor | foxlit: I can type /click VirtualMacro bLifebloom and it works |
| 01:52.03 | kesor | foxlit: but by pressing "`" it does not work, although my previous solution was similar and it did work. |
| 01:52.51 | kesor | foxlit: ok, just redid with SetBinding("`", "CLICK VirtualMacro:bLifebloom", 1) ... and it does work. |
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| 01:53.34 | foxlit | weird, those should be equivalent. |
| 01:53.39 | kesor | i'll use SetBinding instead of SetBindingClick and hope it is good ... |
| 01:53.42 | Cowmonster | Okay what I have is a parent frame (MapFrame) and a scrollchild (MapFrameSC). MapFrameSC has 12 textures (the 12 textures from the world map) and the minimap is placed dead center of MapFrame. I am trying to scroll the frame so that GetPlayerMapPosition("player") and the center of Minimap line up. If I maintain the original size it works, but if I scale everything it does not work. |
| 01:54.29 | foxlit | btw, should only need one of lnes 6 and 8 |
| 01:54.32 | kd3 | wow at the portal2 comic |
| 01:54.51 | foxlit | er, 6 and 9 in the updated version |
| 01:55.13 | kesor | foxlit: so line 9 is redundant then, i'll try without. |
| 01:56.59 | kd3 | is somewhat creeped out now |
| 01:57.42 | Arrowmaster | hmm i already have 6 of the 13 games in this steam indie bundle |
| 01:57.55 | Cowmonster | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149024 |
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| 01:59.41 | kesor | foxlit: actually, SetBindingClick does work ... just as SetBinding(), but only if I call them with /script in-game. It seems that they don't register written in the addon.... any ideas? |
| 02:00.39 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 02:01.02 | foxlit | If that Lua snippet is basically your entire addon, it'll run on reload |
| 02:01.32 | kesor | foxlit: I have it loaded on VARIABLES_LOADED event ... |
| 02:01.53 | foxlit | Could try /dump GetBindingAction("`" |
| 02:01.55 | foxlit | ) |
| 02:02.30 | kesor | cool, was searching for that api ... GetBinding() is not helping in debug. |
| 02:04.31 | kesor | foxlit: I think I know what the problem is, my addon is loaded before the game loads its keybindings ... i need to listen to that event. |
| 02:04.52 | foxlit | that kind of should be VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 02:05.10 | foxlit | You could try PLAYER_LOGIN instead, but meh |
| 02:05.13 | kesor | UPDATE_BINDINGS i think |
| 02:06.00 | foxlit | that sounds like it'll fire whenever someone sneezes. |
| 02:06.05 | Cowmonster | Kesor: Your addon is attempting to change bindings. If you do that in the UPDATE_BINDINGS event wouldn't that cause a loop? |
| 02:06.18 | kesor | SaveBindings() fires it ... as well as LoadBindings() and other binding-related stuff |
| 02:06.39 | Cowmonster | So changing bindings doesn't fire it then? |
| 02:07.02 | kesor | SetBindings does not fire it, only SaveBindings does.... |
| 02:07.07 | kesor | at least according to wowpedia.org |
| 02:07.33 | kesor | but unfortunately ... it didn't fix it :( |
| 02:07.59 | Cowmonster | Secure function hook perhaps? |
| 02:08.12 | kesor | i don't do any hooks, as far as I know. |
| 02:08.24 | kesor | but i'm new at this ... so have no idea. |
| 02:08.27 | Cowmonster | a post-hook on LoadBindings(). |
| 02:09.04 | kesor | ok, i'll check that. sec. |
| 02:10.13 | Cowmonster | Just tossing out ideas while I wait for someone to get around to my question. |
| 02:11.15 | kesor | nope, didn't work though :) |
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| 02:11.41 | Cowmonster | How strange |
| 02:11.59 | kesor | oh, might be my bad. sec, checking again. |
| 02:12.17 | foxlit | "The difference is that, CD burners, DVR's and the Internet compensate that by having great features. Some people being able to install Linux on their PS3's doesn't compensate for hundreds of thousands of games in lost sales." |
| 02:12.20 | kesor | no, still does not work. |
| 02:12.32 | foxlit | The level of cognitive dissonance required never ceases to amaze. |
| 02:15.47 | kesor | any ideas what other events I might be missing? Why SetBinding() in my code is being ignored without any errors? |
| 02:15.58 | kesor | oh .. hmm, i'll hook on SetBinding :/ |
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| 02:17.28 | Cowmonster | If you hook SetBinding and then call SetBinding then that definitely will cause a loop |
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| 02:18.52 | kesor | no, i'm hooking print on it. |
| 02:19.00 | kesor | want to see if someone other than me is calling it |
| 02:19.05 | kesor | and if mine are being called |
| 02:19.26 | Cowmonster | ahh okay |
| 02:22.10 | kesor | can't see mine being called at all ... or any for that matter :( |
| 02:22.21 | kesor | just two bindings from some other addon are set. |
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| 02:27.34 | Cowmonster | hmm |
| 02:27.53 | Cowmonster | do you have a pastey of your code? |
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| 02:30.19 | kesor | Cowmonster: sec, i'll update it with the whole addon code. |
| 02:31.18 | kesor | Cowmonster: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149025 |
| 02:31.59 | kesor | the problem Is, SetBinding in the code does not work, but when in-game doing /script SetBinding.... it does. |
| 02:33.24 | kesor | can someone please take a look at this problem? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149026 ... really have no idea what I am missing there, as I'm new to this. |
| 02:34.12 | Iriel | You may be loading yours before the game loads the default bindings, and it might be overwriting yours |
| 02:34.22 | Iriel | If you do /run Binder_LoadBindings() after login does it work? |
| 02:34.45 | kesor | yes |
| 02:35.25 | kesor | I tried hooking with hooksecure on SetBinding/SetBindingClick/.... adding a print to each, and I don't see mine, just two bindings of some other addon being done. |
| 02:35.34 | kesor | oh .... that gives me an idea where I can find a solution! :) |
| 02:35.36 | airtonix | rammstein and world of roguecraft videos inspired me to play wow. |
| 02:35.45 | airtonix | three years ago |
| 02:36.18 | Iriel | kesor: THe game uses LoadBindings |
| 02:36.31 | Iriel | and it likely do so automatically on login, so there's nothing to hook |
| 02:37.07 | kesor | i tried hooking on that one as well ... if my addon is executed after Loadbinding, then my bindings should work, if before ... then the hook should have fixed it. but no luck :( |
| 02:37.13 | foxlit | http://www.thinkwithportals.com/blog/posts/001/turretguidesamplepage.png |
| 02:38.18 | Cowmonster | Kesor: If I understand what Iriel is saying then I think he's saying that the game may be loading the Bindings without making an API call that you can hook. |
| 02:38.18 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:39.05 | Cowmonster | Case in point the fact that all the game bindings got set and you didn't see one reference to any of the game's bindings or yours. |
| 02:39.08 | foxlit | "DO NOT ATTEMPTS TO REASON WITH YOUR HOME SAFETY TURRET." |
| 02:39.44 | Iriel | "real-time non-verbal conflict resolution" |
| 02:40.52 | Cowmonster | foxlit: Thanks for the tip. I'll remember that when my turret arrives next week. |
| 02:41.33 | kesor | foxlit: did you see the Valve TF2 turret they have in their office lobby? |
| 02:42.21 | foxlit | no, I'm blissfully unaware of all things TF2 |
| 02:42.31 | foxlit | Except that their blog is occasionally funny. |
| 02:44.34 | kesor | Cowmonster: well, this "other" addon is doing his bindings ... i'm trying to figure out how it does that. |
| 02:44.52 | Cowmonster | Good plan |
| 02:45.23 | Iriel | It may be using a different trigger event |
| 02:45.33 | Iriel | Or it may have created its own bindings |
| 02:45.40 | foxlit | try using override bindings instead |
| 02:46.48 | Iriel | Override bindings might well work but I think they may be solving the wrong problem (or solving the right problem wrongly) |
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| 02:48.27 | kesor | isnt override bindings the ones that get actually saved into the player's bindings? |
| 02:48.31 | kesor | i don't think I want that ... |
| 02:49.06 | foxlit | precisely the opposite. |
| 02:49.07 | Iriel | No, override bindings sit on top of the normal bindings |
| 02:49.08 | Cowmonster | No I think override doesn't save SetBindings does |
| 02:49.16 | Iriel | They're not saved, and they always take precedence |
| 02:50.13 | kesor | do I need the owner frame of OverrideBinding to be visible? |
| 02:50.27 | Cowmonster | So if the person unloads your addon their keybindings would go back to what they were previously. |
| 02:50.30 | Iriel | Kesor: No |
| 02:50.39 | Iriel | kesor: the frame is just a reference object to make the API easy to use |
| 02:50.47 | kesor | Cowmonster: yeah, I want it to work like that. good. |
| 02:52.00 | kesor | nope, still does not work :( |
| 02:52.44 | kesor | updated the pastie: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149027 |
| 02:53.48 | Cowmonster | One thing you can take out lines 1-4 and 29. They are redundant. |
| 02:54.11 | Cowmonster | You registered event VARIABLES_LOADED on line 30. |
| 02:54.15 | kesor | in the updated pastie? |
| 02:54.31 | Cowmonster | 149026 I think it is |
| 02:54.36 | kesor | oh, right. |
| 02:54.54 | kd3 | oh, by the way, if you want the portal2 comic in a convenient pdf, http://media.steampowered.com/apps/portal2/comic/Portal2_Lab_Rat.pdf |
| 02:55.03 | kd3 | no ign watermarks to be found, <3 |
| 02:55.12 | Cowmonster | no need to register OnLoad to register the even if you are gonna do it at the end of the file. |
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| 03:13.37 | kesor | how do I check for an existance of a frame when I know the frame name in a string variable? |
| 03:14.48 | Iriel | _G[frameName] ? |
| 03:14.58 | kesor | thanks! :) |
| 03:15.00 | mckenziemc1 | does wowace / curse have a specific category for projects that /aren't/ addons? i want to write something that's not possible for an addon (no it's not a ToU violation either) but figured i should check if anything similar to what i want to do already exists |
| 03:15.22 | Seerah | what is it? |
| 03:15.42 | mckenziemc1 | specifically, i want to write a custom launcher that does things like preset the account name (since i switch a lot), change video settings if i want to dual-box, disable any new addons, etc |
| 03:16.05 | Seerah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat88.html |
| 03:16.09 | kesor | there are a couple of projects that do that already i think |
| 03:16.21 | mckenziemc1 | (though these are two separate answers and i'd still like to know if there's an answer to the first :p ) |
| 03:16.30 | mckenziemc1 | ah i see |
| 03:16.35 | Seerah | :) |
| 03:16.52 | jaxdahl | will you be able to form a raid by yourself in 4.1? |
| 03:17.30 | Cowmonster | Hey, Seerah. |
| 03:17.37 | Jamash | jaxdahl: if you have more than one account, sure |
| 03:17.43 | Seerah | I didn't see anything of the sort in the patch notes, nor do I see a reason for it, jaxdahl |
| 03:18.00 | mckenziemc1 | lol Jamash |
| 03:18.11 | Seerah | Cowmonster: was that a hello? hey :) or a question? what? ;) |
| 03:18.25 | Cowmonster | Would cause complications people would be spamming the GMs with tickets because their quests wouldn't work. |
| 03:18.31 | Cowmonster | Howdy |
| 03:18.46 | Seerah | ~wave Cowmonster |
| 03:18.46 | purl | Bye, Cowmonster |
| 03:18.50 | Seerah | :/ |
| 03:18.53 | Jamash | cannot obtain patching information |
| 03:19.06 | mckenziemc1 | ptr? |
| 03:19.10 | Jamash | yeah |
| 03:19.25 | Cowmonster | take care purl |
| 03:19.42 | mckenziemc1 | kd3 had that issue earlier and i think adys was saying it's a general issue |
| 03:19.51 | mckenziemc1 | ~echo asdf |
| 03:19.51 | purl | asdf |
| 03:20.17 | Seerah | ~botsnack |
| 03:20.17 | purl | thanks, Seerah |
| 03:20.31 | Adys | why's there no addysnack |
| 03:20.38 | Jamash | I'm running the ptr wow.exe directly and it's downloading a patch |
| 03:20.39 | Seerah | ~addysnack |
| 03:20.47 | Adys | hugs Seerah |
| 03:20.52 | Seerah | hugs Adys |
| 03:20.53 | Jamash | now it's patching the patcher |
| 03:21.02 | mckenziemc1 | ~botsnack Adys |
| 03:21.02 | purl | mckenziemc1: aw, gee |
| 03:21.05 | kesor | ok, cleaned that code a bit and moved the macro/keybind definitions into tables ... just like I planned. Now it looks just like a real (working) addon! :) http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149030 ... oh, and it actually works too :) |
| 03:21.21 | Xyphoid | the reason you want to form raids yourself is to solo old raids |
| 03:21.26 | Seerah | so it *is* a "real (working) addon!" :) |
| 03:21.36 | kesor | yeah, my first working one! :) |
| 03:21.44 | kesor | couldn't have done it without your help ... you guys rock |
| 03:22.03 | Cowmonster | Seerah, thanks again for bringing that issue with my IceBlock addon to my attention. I updated it using the frame alpha instead of showing/hiding the button. Though that leaves the button actually on screen and clickable even though you can't see it, it did allow for the essential functionality I was going for. In the version I have on my system I made the button fade in and out when you are ice blocked. |
| 03:22.07 | Adys | kesor: give us ten bucks and we'll do much more than just rock |
| 03:22.22 | kesor | Adys: give me your home address and zip code ... :) |
| 03:22.44 | Adys | i don't live in the US, but if you want someone to zip and/or unzip, you should ask Cide |
| 03:23.05 | Cide | because I live in the US |
| 03:23.06 | Seerah | Cowmonster: yes, that is a limitation of the secure system |
| 03:23.24 | airtonix | i believe you are in violation of a name |
| 03:23.31 | Cowmonster | An unfortunate one |
| 03:23.34 | kesor | now i'll take that huge list of keybinds and macros I got from lvl86, and add it all into this addon :) |
| 03:23.59 | Seerah | goes back to her work :) |
| 03:24.07 | airtonix | unzips Adys |
| 03:24.21 | Seerah | yall are distracting :p |
| 03:24.22 | Cowmonster[A] | is now away - Reason : goes back to work on his map addon |
| 03:25.21 | Cide | Cowmonster[A]: ping |
| 03:25.34 | Cowmonster[A] | eh? |
| 03:25.36 | Seerah | especially you :) |
| 03:25.46 | Cide | we don't need you to spam this channel when you go afk |
| 03:25.48 | Cide | thanks |
| 03:26.02 | Adys | hehe |
| 03:26.07 | Seerah | ~lart Cide |
| 03:26.07 | purl | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that Cide is stuck to the floor |
| 03:26.09 | Adys | friend told me to watch the illusionist |
| 03:26.12 | Adys | very good stuff |
| 03:26.17 | Cide | Seerah? |
| 03:26.24 | Seerah | we finally watched Tron tonight |
| 03:26.25 | Cide | away messages are the worst invention ever |
| 03:26.26 | Adys | (the 2010 french animation film that is) |
| 03:26.32 | Seerah | got lucky with Netflix |
| 03:26.39 | Cide | HAY GUYS I'M GOING FISHING THANKS FOR CARING |
| 03:26.40 | mckenziemc1 | clue gun? |
| 03:26.45 | mckenziemc1 | sounds painful |
| 03:27.01 | Seerah | ooh, just noticed that, thanks mckenziemc1 :) |
| 03:27.11 | Seerah | makes it more punny |
| 03:29.10 | Kraps | hey cide |
| 03:29.16 | Cide | hey Kraps |
| 03:29.26 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~T_T@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 03:29.43 | Kraps | i bought a music keyboard |
| 03:29.45 | airtonix | Cide: Status Update: Marking myself as away: Reason: Marking Myself Away. |
| 03:29.51 | Seerah | Kraps: which? |
| 03:30.34 | Kraps | http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/585866-REG/Yamaha_PSRS550B_PSR_S550B_61_Key_Arranger.html |
| 03:31.03 | Cide | that seems almost as useful as away messages |
| 03:31.40 | Seerah | oh, those are weighted keys? (it says "touch sensitive") Not a full-size, but plenty of bells and whistles nonetheless :) |
| 03:33.54 | Seerah | Kraps: I've got this one: http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/keyboards/digitalpianos/dgx_series/ypg-625/?mode=model keys are a bit heavy and noisy, though |
| 03:38.18 | mikma | cairenn: "what do you wish?" http://imgur.com/gallery/gyfyn |
| 03:38.34 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:45.00 | kesor | is it possible to include a lua file from a lua file? |
| 03:45.25 | Iriel | in wow, no |
| 03:45.33 | Iriel | just list 2 consecutively in your .toc |
| 03:46.30 | kesor | will they share their local scope if I write them like that in the same .toc? |
| 03:47.12 | Adys | kesor: no, but you can use the ... table for addon namespace |
| 03:47.30 | kesor | the 3 dot table? huh? |
| 03:47.39 | Cide | ... is the vararg parameter |
| 03:47.49 | Cide | lua files get it passed to them too |
| 03:47.52 | Seerah | a list of arguments/return values |
| 03:48.03 | Cide | and for wow you have two parameters |
| 03:48.03 | kesor | can you point me to an example please? |
| 03:48.06 | Cide | addon name and addon table |
| 03:48.30 | kesor | so at the first line of the file I wrire "addon_name, addon_table = ..." ? |
| 03:48.30 | Seerah | With 4.0, each addon gets two variables passed to it by the client. The first is... ^^ |
| 03:48.36 | Adys | kesor: https://github.com/Adys/linkhover/blob/master/LinkHover/LinkHover.lua#L8 |
| 03:48.41 | Seerah | yep! but make them local :p |
| 03:48.41 | Cide | *local* name, tbl |
| 03:48.42 | Cide | yes |
| 03:49.01 | kesor | and each .lua file in my .toc gets these? |
| 03:49.07 | Adys | yea |
| 03:49.11 | kesor | excellent! :) |
| 03:49.13 | Cide | and they all get the same table |
| 03:49.17 | Seerah | and then you can store suff in your addon_table and access it from the other Lua file (though you'll have to assign the variables to ... in that file, too) |
| 03:49.31 | kesor | yeah, got it. thanks a lot. |
| 03:50.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Parnic (user@staff.xbins.org) |
| 03:50.10 | kesor | its time to load all the lvl86 macros and keybindings into my new addon :) |
| 03:50.13 | *** join/#wowuidev Proditor (~Proditor@c80-217-50-30.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 03:50.23 | Seerah | lvl 86? |
| 03:50.34 | kesor | don't ask, its some crappy windows software they sell on clickbank |
| 03:51.06 | Seerah | but.... what does that have to do with an addon? |
| 03:51.11 | Cide | & |
| 03:51.14 | Cide | wrong charset |
| 03:51.15 | Cide | ^ |
| 03:51.26 | Cide | err, language! |
| 03:51.26 | kesor | what it does is change your bindings-cache.wtf and macros-cache.txt to some really nice keybinds ... my addon does the same binds, but in-game. |
| 03:51.42 | Adys | Cide: layout |
| 03:51.45 | Cide | I'm massively confused |
| 03:51.47 | kesor | layout, yes. |
| 03:51.48 | Cide | Adys: yeah whatever |
| 03:51.54 | Adys | there's no whatevering me |
| 03:51.56 | Seerah | me, too |
| 03:51.59 | Cide | there is |
| 03:52.03 | Cide | Adys: whatthefuckever |
| 03:52.15 | Adys | that's slightly better but it's STILL NO EXCUSE |
| 03:52.58 | kesor | there is a guy, at http://lvl86.com thats basically sells a keybinding layout that includes some smart macros ... its a layout for every class and every spec in the game, and it is very consistent across the board. as-in you always know where the cc button is, where the interrupt button is, etc... |
| 03:53.13 | Cide | oh, I have that too! |
| 03:53.20 | Cide | except I did that with bartender and didn't pay a dime |
| 03:53.30 | Kraps | i knew it |
| 03:53.44 | Seerah | so you bought the layout and you're going to distribute it in an addon? |
| 03:53.46 | kesor | bartender has a small limitation, but you can now use my addon to do it :) |
| 03:53.55 | Cide | what limitation? |
| 03:54.05 | kesor | no ... my addon just allows this to be created, I won't distribute his layout ... he might sue me. |
| 03:54.10 | Kraps | he cant sell it |
| 03:54.18 | Seerah | Kraps: sure he can |
| 03:54.21 | Adys | i wonder how HE didnt get sued |
| 03:54.30 | Cide | I doubt you can copyright the layout? |
| 03:54.33 | Adys | who sells a layout |
| 03:54.34 | Seerah | just keybinds and macros? |
| 03:54.36 | kesor | its like all these wow-gold guides and stuff |
| 03:54.43 | Cide | no |
| 03:54.46 | Cide | it's not at all like those |
| 03:54.50 | Wobin | it's not an addon |
| 03:54.52 | kesor | yes, just keybinds and macros... and a couple of talent trees in a pdf, basically from EJ. |
| 03:54.53 | Seerah | kesor: was just making sure before you uploaded it ;) |
| 03:55.01 | Adys | its like selling a talent spec |
| 03:55.04 | Adys | except worse |
| 03:55.12 | kesor | he includes talent specs there too :) |
| 03:55.14 | Cide | it's like selling a keyboard layout |
| 03:55.18 | Iriel | Well, if the key binds come from EJ, you can probably copy it just fine |
| 03:55.18 | kesor | exactly. |
| 03:55.22 | Adys | see there i was thinking i was wrong. |
| 03:55.25 | Seerah | whether it's a good idea and business model is another matter ;) |
| 03:55.26 | Cide | except nobody sells keyboard layouts |
| 03:55.26 | kesor | no, the keybinds are his own |
| 03:55.35 | kesor | he does ... |
| 03:55.42 | kesor | but his implementation sucks |
| 03:55.43 | Iriel | They dont sound particularly original |
| 03:55.54 | Iriel | the idea of putting the same 'action type' in one spot is pretty old |
| 03:55.57 | Cairenn | O.O |
| 03:56.01 | kesor | his implementation being a windows software written in .NET that pushes that layout into your config files under WTF |
| 03:56.06 | Kraps | i need someone to show me how time signatures in music notes actually works in practice |
| 03:56.07 | Wobin | $40 >< |
| 03:56.14 | Cide | FORTY BUCKS WHAT THE FUCK |
| 03:56.16 | Cairenn | I'm sorry, what? You PAID for this crap? |
| 03:56.17 | Adys | holy price |
| 03:56.23 | kesor | who said I payed? |
| 03:56.32 | kesor | i didn't say I actually payed for it .... |
| 03:56.34 | kd3 | the top number is the number of beats per bar, the bottom bar is the type of note that counts as a beat |
| 03:56.36 | Adys | i don't think anyone paid |
| 03:56.40 | Cide | you better not have |
| 03:56.46 | kd3 | so, 4/4 is four quarter-notes per measure |
| 03:56.48 | kesor | but I have it ... and I "kinda" like it. |
| 03:56.49 | Wobin | Kraps: the to... what kd3 said |
| 03:56.53 | kd3 | 6/8 is six eighth notes per measure |
| 03:56.54 | kd3 | etc |
| 03:57.10 | Wobin | american notation is so confusing =P |
| 03:57.10 | Dagmar | ...and the sign of an unstable mind |
| 03:57.15 | Cide | cancel the 2 already! |
| 03:57.17 | kd3 | 4/4 is also called common time, so if you see a C where the time signature should be, that's 4/4. cut time is 2/2 |
| 03:57.18 | Cide | 3/4. |
| 03:57.20 | Adys | Wobin: it's not american |
| 03:57.24 | kesor | although the addon I just wrote is better, since it doesn't use the game /macro it has virtual ones. |
| 03:57.29 | Adys | well not specific to america |
| 03:57.30 | Dagmar | Also known as 'FTTF' |
| 03:57.35 | Wobin | Adys: the use of fractions is |
| 03:57.38 | kd3 | ...and denoted as a C with a vertical line through it |
| 03:57.42 | Adys | specific to america? no |
| 03:57.53 | Seerah | Kraps: you didn't ask the music teacher? :( |
| 03:57.55 | kd3 | I can't write 3 over 4 in here |
| 03:58.01 | kd3 | other than typing it out like that |
| 03:58.02 | Cide | \frac{3}{4} |
| 03:58.04 | kd3 | so 3/4 suffices |
| 03:58.08 | Kraps | no kd3, i mean i need to se someone playing to notes so i can see how the different notes work |
| 03:58.12 | Wobin | Adys: really? where else? |
| 03:58.12 | Adys | ³/ⴠ|
| 03:58.14 | Adys | beh |
| 03:58.14 | Dagmar | Except things like 7/8 and 3/5 time do not work in such a straightforward way |
| 03:58.18 | Adys | Wobin: france for once |
| 03:58.19 | Adys | -c |
| 03:58.28 | Wobin | silly, frenchies |
| 03:58.35 | Iriel | Dagmar: 7/8 does |
| 03:58.40 | Iriel | doesn't it? |
| 03:58.46 | Adys | yeah it does |
| 03:58.50 | Iriel | The only 7/8 music I know works pretty normally |
| 03:58.58 | Cairenn | Seerah: you will probably join me in being amused by this http://funpics.classicfun.ws/index.php/Funpics/photoshop-cream |
| 03:59.00 | kd3 | 3/5 time? |
| 03:59.03 | Wobin | use minim, crochets, quavers , semiquavers, demi semi quavers, and hemi demi semi quavers like normal people! =P |
| 03:59.05 | Dagmar | Three beats in first half, four beats in second half of measure |
| 03:59.06 | kd3 | thinks for a minute |
| 03:59.17 | Seerah | 5/8? |
| 03:59.18 | Iriel | Wobin: YAY! |
| 03:59.19 | kd3 | oh, compound time |
| 03:59.23 | Dagmar | yes. |
| 03:59.24 | mckenziemc1 | (8:53:22 PM) Cide: except I did that with bartender and didn't pay a dime |
| 03:59.24 | Wobin | and breves and semibreves! |
| 03:59.25 | mckenziemc1 | you created layouts for every class and spec with consistency between them all? |
| 03:59.39 | Adys | Wobin: we do |
| 03:59.44 | Adys | i just meant about the fractions |
| 03:59.45 | Dagmar | I started to question what I remembered there for a moment |
| 03:59.47 | Seerah | Cairenn: hehe |
| 03:59.48 | Cide | no, I put my spells on my bars in a similar way across all my characters |
| 04:00.06 | Dagmar | then I was like "No wait, I spent years in jazz, marching and concert band"" |
| 04:00.07 | Adys | i dont know what americans use but we have all that and fractions |
| 04:00.08 | Wobin | Adys: you refer to them as quarter notes, etc, don't you? |
| 04:00.12 | kesor | mckenziemc1: Cide: oh, the limitation of bartender ... problem is that it is time consuming, and limited by the macros. whilst you could do better with SetBindingSpell, and SetBindingMacro |
| 04:00.22 | Adys | we have french names for all of them |
| 04:00.36 | Adys | quartet quintet and what not |
| 04:00.36 | Cide | nobody said it's the optimal way, kesor |
| 04:00.41 | Dagmar | Quarter notes are a solid blob with a tail |
| 04:00.42 | Wobin | I just find saying "It's 8 eighth notes in a measure" is confusing |
| 04:00.49 | Cide | but it's not exactly difficult or hard either |
| 04:00.50 | Iriel | All the americans I know use the "quarter note" terminology |
| 04:01.01 | Iriel | They look at me funny when I say "crotchet" |
| 04:01.08 | kesor | Cide: i know, i have that dominos thing as well ... each time I log into that DK I didn't play for more than half a year ... I have to spend a day to "configure" him. |
| 04:01.15 | Seerah | I teach my students to think of it as fractions. (except using "quarter" rather than "fourth") |
| 04:01.26 | Adys | blinks |
| 04:01.41 | Adys | man all of a sudden im glad i learned music back in France... |
| 04:01.42 | Wobin | we need more breves in music =P |
| 04:01.45 | Wobin | bring back the breve! |
| 04:01.49 | Seerah | as in... top number is how many you have, bottom number is of what (what you're counting) |
| 04:02.05 | Seerah | did we lose Kraps? |
| 04:02.14 | kd3 | I only learned about quavers and such on enwiki; all I was ever taught was whole/half/quarter/eighth/etc... notes |
| 04:02.24 | Wobin | Seerah: perhaps back when we took that left turn at Alberquerqe |
| 04:02.44 | Dagmar | Honestly this is something that would be a lot easier to figure out if you just knew someone with an instrument (who doesn't suck at it) |
| 04:02.57 | Dagmar | Find some kid in a high school band |
| 04:03.01 | Wobin | a drummer is a good choice |
| 04:03.05 | Dagmar | Oh jesus no |
| 04:03.13 | Wobin | a good drummer is a good choice =P |
| 04:03.18 | Dagmar | If they call themselves "a percussionist" then maybe |
| 04:03.24 | Wobin | (good luck!) |
| 04:03.33 | Cairenn | and what's wrong with a percu ... heh, okay Dagmar, you're forgiven ;) |
| 04:03.44 | mckenziemc1 | btw kesor, how do racials fit in with his suggested layouts? |
| 04:03.51 | Mr_Rabies | one of the hardest things i ever did was play and march in two different time signatures back in high school |
| 04:03.56 | Mr_Rabies | that will break your brain |
| 04:03.58 | kesor | racial ability is always on shift-Z |
| 04:04.07 | kesor | for all races |
| 04:04.07 | Seerah | Kraps: this site looks decent.... http://www.musictheory.net/ |
| 04:04.08 | kd3 | until you get used to it |
| 04:04.15 | mckenziemc1 | some races have multiple racials |
| 04:04.19 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies: kind of like patting your head and rubbing your tummy at the same time |
| 04:04.25 | Mr_Rabies | kesor's race card is hotkeyed |
| 04:04.29 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: After awhile you just stop thinking about it |
| 04:04.53 | kesor | mckenziemc1: I know, like goblin's rockets+boosters ... but you can always bind whatever you want other than the suggested stuff. |
| 04:04.55 | Mr_Rabies | oh and the people marching in front of me were marching in the time signature i was playing in |
| 04:04.58 | Mr_Rabies | :[ |
| 04:05.18 | mckenziemc1 | i'd be interested in taking at his suggestions for ideas on arranging my own, but i'm not going to pay money for it :( |
| 04:05.31 | Mr_Rabies | i swear our band director ran everything on heroic |
| 04:06.32 | Cide | that's stupid |
| 04:06.38 | Cide | shift+z is so close to wasd |
| 04:06.39 | Dagmar | Grade six or go home, bishes |
| 04:06.49 | Cide | should prioritize more important spells than racials |
| 04:06.50 | Adys | so back in 2010 i had this idea while messing with some nlp scripts of writing a topic&category parser for irc |
| 04:06.54 | Adys | run it in this channel for a few months |
| 04:06.59 | kesor | human's racial is like a pvp trinket |
| 04:07.09 | Adys | see when activity spikes and on what sort of topic it does |
| 04:07.10 | kesor | and I actually use the goblin one all the time, and the worgen one |
| 04:07.12 | Cide | I'm well aware, being a human priest and all |
| 04:07.15 | Dagmar | We were bastards in concert band |
| 04:07.18 | Adys | i don't think music would have made the top 50. |
| 04:07.22 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: o.O |
| 04:07.27 | Dagmar | We'd go in and do a grade six warm-up piece |
| 04:08.02 | Kraps | like, i taught myself 3 hours ago to play the chorus to "my heart will go on" and now my brain is breaking reading the sheet music |
| 04:08.07 | Seerah | Mr_Rabies: I think the closest I came to that (note, I was in choir, not band) was in conducting class in college. They had us conducting in 4/4 with one hand and 3/4 with the other. |
| 04:08.11 | mckenziemc1 | Cide: yeah, but if you do that things get too complicated, one race's racial may not qualify for a "good" spot while another race's might |
| 04:08.12 | Dagmar | "Oh but that *was* our 'easy piece'" |
| 04:08.37 | mckenziemc1 | conflicting goals, so a decision has to be made on which are more important |
| 04:08.56 | Wobin | Kraps: yeah, but learning that song would break your brain normally =P |
| 04:08.57 | Mr_Rabies | most of our music during the years i was in high school marching band was based on this show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECUpJuUeAQ |
| 04:09.03 | kesor | mckenziemc1: Cide: i kinda agree with what that guy didn't say ... that it is all in muscle memory, and if you play some stuff a lot and switch to another toon that has the same stuff at the same place ... its good. |
| 04:09.05 | Adys | i cant possibly see how you would bind human racial and pvp trinket on two diff chars on a different slot |
| 04:09.12 | Cide | no |
| 04:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | we were a little high school drum and bugle corps |
| 04:09.20 | Cide | you want spells mapped by use, not by category |
| 04:09.33 | Cide | the human racial should be on the same key as other races' pvp trinket |
| 04:09.40 | Dagmar | We were a little high school marching symphony |
| 04:09.47 | Kraps | lol Wobin, a friend likes the song so i started fiddling around and bam |
| 04:09.51 | kesor | i pretty sure he does that already |
| 04:10.00 | mckenziemc1 | where do you put the human's other trinket key though |
| 04:10.02 | Cide | that doesn't work since you said all racials are on shift+z |
| 04:10.03 | Adys | for fourty bucks he better |
| 04:10.17 | Adys | mckenziemc1: you dont, you get a passive trinket |
| 04:10.27 | Dagmar | Mind you, our director was *also* a bastard |
| 04:10.28 | kesor | its a general rule that they are on shift-z ... but his .net soft asks you a race/class/spec each time it creates the config files |
| 04:10.35 | mckenziemc1 | ideally perhaps |
| 04:10.49 | Cide | so you're praising the idea and when I tell you why it's bad you back off |
| 04:10.52 | tem | derp |
| 04:10.54 | tem | I'm out of gin |
| 04:10.57 | tem | this is a problem |
| 04:11.11 | Cide | totally doable with bartender and 5 minutes per class still |
| 04:11.13 | mckenziemc1 | no Cide |
| 04:11.16 | Cide | yes Cide |
| 04:11.20 | tem | ooh |
| 04:11.23 | mckenziemc1 | there are differing goals |
| 04:11.24 | tem | lets play argue with cide |
| 04:11.29 | Cide | u liek tem? |
| 04:11.32 | tem | drama! |
| 04:11.38 | Cide | are you drunk? |
| 04:11.38 | kesor | lols! :) |
| 04:11.39 | tem | mckenziemc1, you're probably retarded or something |
| 04:11.44 | Cide | hey now |
| 04:11.47 | Cide | don't steal my lines |
| 04:11.49 | tem | Cide, maybe tipsy |
| 04:11.52 | tem | I dunno |
| 04:12.01 | mckenziemc1 | you're saying there's a downside, which is clear, but there are other downsides to your approach |
| 04:12.04 | mckenziemc1 | tem: what? |
| 04:12.07 | tem | I don't seem to be typiong too much |
| 04:12.09 | Cide | only time investment, mckenziemc1 |
| 04:12.12 | tem | hahahahahahaahaaha |
| 04:12.16 | Cide | and it's minimal at best |
| 04:12.16 | Adys | with Cide talking about bartender all night even i'd be wasted |
| 04:12.20 | mckenziemc1 | no, coordination |
| 04:12.23 | Adys | (GET IT CIDE?) |
| 04:12.32 | Cide | you get the exact same coordination since you can set up exactly the same layout. |
| 04:12.35 | kesor | Cide: well, i'm investing right now into building an addon that will include all this "information" for all the toons I have, and will have in the future. |
| 04:12.47 | Cide | kesor's addon or his program only automates it for you |
| 04:12.51 | Seerah | Kraps: it's for a kid audience, but... it's a free download. http://makingmusicfun.net/htm/f_printit_free_printable_sheet_music/mmf-piano-book.htm It's a beginning piano book, which will teach you some of the basics and give you some easy songs to start out with. |
| 04:12.51 | mckenziemc1 | you're talking about a different layout.... |
| 04:12.55 | Cide | no? |
| 04:13.05 | Cide | I doubt an automated tool will universally do better decisions than you can do yourself |
| 04:13.06 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: We had one persistent problem of scoring 10s and taking first place everywhere, until we got to Contest of Champions, at which point we'd all freak out and choke and only make like 4th. |
| 04:13.11 | tem | I'm goiung to write scqlite in lua because lol |
| 04:13.18 | tem | actually |
| 04:13.20 | Cide | definitely drunk as fuck, tem |
| 04:13.21 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: My senior year, to prove a point, the band director pulled a fast one |
| 04:13.22 | tem | I bet someone's done it already |
| 04:13.28 | Wobin | Cide: One thing you don't take into account is that people want to be told what to do |
| 04:13.28 | mckenziemc1 | because the automated tool makes all the decisions amirite? |
| 04:13.29 | kesor | Cide: the "tool" was made by people who play all the classes and specs ... and kinda got it all into one big picture. |
| 04:13.36 | Adys | http://www.freshports.org/databases/luasql-sqlite3/ |
| 04:13.41 | Wobin | Cide: It makes them feel safer |
| 04:13.42 | tem | Cide, aw come on |
| 04:13.48 | tem | my lips aren't numb |
| 04:13.49 | Wobin | and they can blame the program if they screw up |
| 04:13.50 | Cide | I play priest, dk, druid, warlock, rogue, warrior |
| 04:13.51 | tem | therefore not drunk |
| 04:13.52 | Cide | is that not enough |
| 04:13.56 | kesor | what automated tool you talking about? its all manual configuration mates! |
| 04:14.07 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: We saved up our nickels and were taking the band on a trip to Jamaica. We were also "ostensibly there to play a contest on the way" which was "a little festival down in Florida" |
| 04:14.08 | Cide | then what's the point |
| 04:14.17 | Cide | if it's all manual you get the equivalent of bartender keybinds |
| 04:14.24 | Cide | (or any other action bar addon for that matter) |
| 04:14.30 | kesor | its just that my addon will "Cide: addon addon, load up my blood dk profile please .... *poof*" ... |
| 04:14.30 | Dagmar | AT NO POINT did that man mention we were going to be playing in a giant freaking stadium in a contest larger than Contest of Champions. |
| 04:14.40 | Dagmar | He kept it extremely hidden from us. |
| 04:14.45 | Cide | kesor: but character specific key binds don't need you to do that |
| 04:14.51 | Cide | you get exactly what you want |
| 04:14.51 | Mr_Rabies | your director sounds like my director, what state do you live in (if you don't mind disclosing that) :O |
| 04:15.00 | Cide | and they're even stored server side so double win there |
| 04:15.07 | Adys | I cant possibly follow three conversations at once |
| 04:15.09 | Adys | good night |
| 04:15.12 | Kraps | and i taught myself the first 20s of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXhx40DcU6Y in 5 minutes |
| 04:15.16 | Mr_Rabies | let's make it 4 |
| 04:15.17 | Dagmar | It's 85F, we're wearing uniforms that are like bulletproof wool, local bands are wondering why we don't die of heat, we roll in and take 1st/1st/1st |
| 04:15.22 | Seerah | Dagmar: you're director took you to that festival and didn't tell you????? |
| 04:15.25 | kesor | Cide: but what if you have two blood dk's, on different realms? |
| 04:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | hey adys what's up |
| 04:15.28 | mckenziemc1 | Cide: it's a suggestion useful over all classes |
| 04:15.34 | Adys | Mr_Rabies: not much lets cyber |
| 04:15.35 | Dagmar | We had no idea WTF he'd pulled until we saw them give us a trophy that was like six feeet tall |
| 04:15.50 | Seerah | yeah, that's a big one |
| 04:15.56 | Dagmar | Seerah: Yeah. We never looked into it because we were all going "W00! Jamaica!" |
| 04:15.59 | Kraps | whoa its thundering outside |
| 04:16.05 | Seerah | I wasn't in band, but I know about that (our marching band always went, too) |
| 04:16.09 | kesor | Cide: don't know about you, but I don't have a toon of every class/spec/race available in the game ... but when I roll something new this 'universal layout' will make lots of stuff easier for me. |
| 04:16.25 | tem | I rhing inxoneol and fewroep sis PEWRRY FOOD JOV |
| 04:16.30 | kesor | not *easy*, ... just easier. |
| 04:16.31 | tem | ... |
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| 04:16.54 | tem | I'll translate that for you people who can't read one-off-home-row |
| 04:17.02 | tem | I think gretorp and incontrol did a pretty good job |
| 04:17.07 | Dagmar | Seerah: It was funny tho. The man even made up an excuse and had us practice the evening before in the hotel parking lot |
| 04:17.18 | Seerah | lol |
| 04:17.25 | Adys | someone has to quote tem |
| 04:17.29 | Adys | put him in the /topic or something |
| 04:17.56 | tem | surely Im, not the only one who who watched nasl tonight |
| 04:17.59 | Mr_Rabies | i think the amazing thing about that sentence tem |
| 04:18.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (na@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 04:18.15 | Mr_Rabies | is that it's pretty much completely pronouncable |
| 04:18.30 | Adys | let's put it to the test |
| 04:18.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's just like someone who had a stroke wrote it |
| 04:18.34 | Dagmar | Man the Florida kids were hilarious. Wearing shorts and polo shirts and complaining of the heat, and we're like "no, we actually have worn this stuff when it's been 98F on the field" |
| 04:18.39 | Adys | Fisker: I rhing inxoneol and fewroep sis pewrry food jov? |
| 04:18.43 | tem | my left hand was too the left |
| 04:18.48 | tem | to& |
| 04:18.51 | tem | to*(O |
| 04:18.55 | tem | to*** |
| 04:18.58 | tem | god dammit |
| 04:19.05 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || BC Tickets on Sale May 21 and 25th. http://bit.ly/dR0B0R || "I rhing inxoneol and fewroep sis PEWRRY FOOD JOV" -tem |
| 04:19.09 | Mr_Rabies | fat fingers |
| 04:19.21 | Dagmar | Dislocated keyboard syndrome |
| 04:19.24 | tem | I'm not fat mothercuker |
| 04:19.39 | Adys | I love cuke |
| 04:19.41 | Adys | it's heaven in a can |
| 04:19.44 | Mr_Rabies | Dagmar: you're not in Georgia by any chance are you? :O (or were in high school) |
| 04:19.52 | Dagmar | Nope. Tennessee. |
| 04:19.53 | Seerah | Adys: how is that different from Coke? |
| 04:19.58 | Dagmar | Mt. Juliet High School Band |
| 04:20.03 | Adys | Seerah: IT crowd |
| 04:20.04 | Adys | :( |
| 04:20.07 | Mr_Rabies | oh, don't think my director taught in tennessee, okay |
| 04:20.11 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like something he'd do |
| 04:20.22 | Mr_Rabies | like, he probably has done |
| 04:20.23 | Dagmar | We just had a freak occurrence of about 10 years getting incredible musicians for no apparent reason |
| 04:20.34 | Mr_Rabies | our uniforms were awful, 30 year old polyester nightmares |
| 04:20.37 | Dagmar | Dinky little redneck high school with a world-class marching bad |
| 04:20.39 | Dagmar | er band |
| 04:20.45 | Mr_Rabies | same thing here |
| 04:21.04 | Dagmar | No polyester in our new uniforms. Those babies were wool and possibly kevlar |
| 04:21.14 | Dagmar | You could make 'em stand on their own |
| 04:21.26 | Mr_Rabies | ours were like 50 pounds in the rain |
| 04:21.35 | tem | is cuke a real thing, Adys ? |
| 04:21.46 | Dagmar | That's why you get them dry-cleaned so they shed water. |
| 04:21.53 | Dagmar | Another 50 lbs and I'd have been more gear than kid |
| 04:21.58 | Adys | tem: depends, is heaven a real thing? |
| 04:22.03 | Dagmar | 97lb kid toting a 40lb sousaphone |
| 04:22.07 | tem | that depends who you ask |
| 04:22.22 | Adys | tem: it's from IT Crowd |
| 04:22.28 | Adys | shame on you if you havent watched it |
| 04:22.39 | Adys | http://mrburnz.deviantart.com/art/Cuke-It-s-Heaven-in-a-can-132911149 |
| 04:23.10 | tem | I don't really watch 5v |
| 04:23.17 | tem | I'm about to cancel my ca le |
| 04:23.21 | Adys | 5v? |
| 04:23.21 | tem | and just watch internet stuff |
| 04:23.24 | tem | tv |
| 04:23.28 | Adys | cale? |
| 04:23.31 | tem | suck it |
| 04:23.40 | Adys | i don't think cale can be sucked |
| 04:23.54 | mckenziemc1 | you'd be surprised |
| 04:23.56 | tem | there was a chick in my old guild named Kale |
| 04:24.02 | tem | Kale Stedman |
| 04:24.08 | Adys | well i don't think his wife would agree |
| 04:24.11 | tem | I wonder what she's doing now |
| 04:27.03 | tem | she was gay |
| 04:27.08 | tem | and shacked up with another guild mate |
| 04:27.14 | tem | tney stopped showing for raids |
| 04:27.23 | Adys | that could mean so many things |
| 04:27.26 | tem | which was kind of a problem |
| 04:27.35 | tem | since she was the healing coordiantor |
| 04:27.43 | mckenziemc1 | O.o |
| 04:27.54 | tem | the other chich was an alternate tank |
| 04:27.59 | tem | so that wasn't too much of a problem |
| 04:28.00 | Cide | sounds hot |
| 04:28.18 | Adys | Cide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdDMItmOj5w |
| 04:28.23 | mckenziemc1 | like a moth to the flame |
| 04:28.36 | Adys | moths don't get hot |
| 04:28.40 | Adys | nor do they get stuck in baths |
| 04:30.39 | mckenziemc1 | that's not what i was referring to |
| 04:33.44 | cogwheel | Why are you playing me, Fisker? |
| 04:33.44 | tem | it really didn't matter in the end |
| 04:33.50 | tem | was had already killed hlk |
| 04:33.57 | tem | so we wer e just farming invincible |
| 04:34.13 | Cide | did you coordinate the shit out of healing tem |
| 04:34.19 | tem | no |
| 04:34.22 | tem | I was the main tank |
| 04:34.24 | Cide | way to not step it up |
| 04:34.24 | cogwheel | tem: do you have netflix? |
| 04:34.29 | tem | negatron |
| 04:34.41 | tem | optimist perime |
| 04:34.48 | Cide | wow |
| 04:34.50 | tem | cogwheel, I have amazon prime |
| 04:34.52 | Cide | super-drunk tem is awesome |
| 04:35.03 | Cide | but really |
| 04:35.05 | Cide | who drinks gin |
| 04:35.13 | tem | gin is aweome |
| 04:35.17 | tem | I fucking hate it alone |
| 04:35.19 | cogwheel | see if they have it crowd |
| 04:35.28 | tem | I can't stomach tonic either |
| 04:35.34 | tem | but gin + tonic = wowzers |
| 04:35.38 | Cide | no |
| 04:35.45 | Cide | gin and tonic is as awful as gin and as awful as tonic |
| 04:35.47 | Cairenn | keeps a log of tem's drunken ramblings |
| 04:35.55 | tem | it tastes like what if sprite was god |
| 04:35.57 | tem | good* |
| 04:36.01 | Cide | lol what |
| 04:36.02 | tem | and alcoholic |
| 04:36.07 | Cide | it tastes like gin... and tonic |
| 04:36.14 | tem | caren that's men |
| 04:36.15 | tem | mean |
| 04:36.24 | Cide | you only missed two letters there |
| 04:36.26 | Cairenn | hey, you had the log of me drunk |
| 04:36.33 | tem | I lost it! |
| 04:36.42 | tem | god I wish I still had that screnshot |
| 04:36.43 | Cairenn | that's not my fault |
| 04:36.53 | Cairenn | nor my problem ;) |
| 04:37.05 | tem | iriel was like "Ill try to reanslate: on fgorums while drunk" |
| 04:37.07 | tem | ugh |
| 04:37.15 | tem | yo7u got the idea |
| 04:37.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:37.19 | cogwheel | nop |
| 04:37.22 | Cairenn | hugs tem |
| 04:37.29 | cogwheel | <54 |
| 04:37.43 | tem | :PO: |
| 04:37.45 | tem | :P |
| 04:37.59 | tem | I think I ust made a makeout in ascii |
| 04:38.02 | tem | just* |
| 04:38.16 | Cide | I'm amazed honestly |
| 04:38.28 | cogwheel | steps away slowly |
| 04:39.02 | Cairenn | I'm amused |
| 04:39.03 | mckenziemc | trips cogwheel |
| 04:39.53 | Seerah | Cairenn: I am, too :D |
| 04:40.03 | Seerah | it almost makes me not want to go to bed :) |
| 04:40.05 | tem | I'm trying to make the zelda puzzle solved sound in note blocks |
| 04:40.08 | tem | and failing at it |
| 04:40.09 | Cairenn | high five's Seerah |
| 04:40.21 | tem | I think I've got the right notes, but I need SLIGHTLYU more delay |
| 04:40.28 | Cide | Seerah: I hear you |
| 04:41.06 | Seerah | G-C-E-C-D-G |
| 04:41.12 | tem | honestly, that was the goal of having more gin tonight |
| 04:41.19 | tem | to force myself to go to bed earlier |
| 04:41.28 | Cide | haha what |
| 04:41.30 | tem | this morning was ROUGH |
| 04:41.31 | Iriel | tem: It didn't work |
| 04:41.38 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 04:41.40 | Cide | that never works |
| 04:41.41 | Cairenn | hugs tem |
| 04:41.41 | tem | I've still got 20 minutes before bedtime |
| 04:41.50 | tem | although |
| 04:42.55 | tem | I guess I should go start "trying" to go to sleep in 5 since it's supposedly takes 15 to actually fall asleeep |
| 04:43.47 | nebula169 | 15 minutes going on hours and hours then you have to leave your bed ;[ |
| 04:45.18 | tem | Seerah, what are you smoking? |
| 04:45.23 | tem | that's not even close to right |
| 04:45.35 | Seerah | what game am I thinking then? |
| 04:45.54 | tem | hell if I know |
| 04:46.23 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 04:47.10 | Seerah | ah, yep, you're right. I remember the Zelda one now. what game was in my head? |
| 04:48.32 | Dagmar | Probably BoneTown |
| 04:49.23 | Cide | boneeestoooorm |
| 04:49.46 | Dagmar | Heh. Not quite the same thing |
| 04:49.52 | Dagmar | (thank god) |
| 04:53.10 | tem | g f# d# f a g# e g# c |
| 04:53.12 | tem | I think |
| 04:55.59 | tem | are inverters slower than repeaters? |
| 04:56.15 | tem | or is the minimum setting on a repeater the same delay as an inverter? |
| 04:58.05 | Seerah | tem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=299lAAAywSw |
| 04:59.14 | cogwheel | I have written programs in C, C# F#, and D |
| 05:00.03 | cogwheel | go figure |
| 05:00.07 | Seerah | g f# d# a g# e g# c |
| 05:00.26 | mckenziemc | ~abcdefg |
| 05:00.26 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, abcdefg is the start of the alphabet. A Boy Can Do Everything For A Girl. See also gfedcba |
| 05:00.30 | tem | ignore that random f in mine |
| 05:00.42 | kesor | is there an api call that returns current talent tree as text? like "Balance", "Restoration", "Feral" ? |
| 05:00.43 | Kraps | The staff line which the clef wraps around (shown in red) is known as G. Any note placed on this line becomes G. |
| 05:00.43 | tem | dunno why it's there |
| 05:01.04 | mckenziemc | because you put it there? |
| 05:01.13 | Seerah | anyway, up too late now. night night |
| 05:01.13 | tem | the base cleff is sometimes cal,led the f cleff |
| 05:01.15 | kesor | found it |
| 05:01.17 | Seerah | yes |
| 05:01.18 | tem | because it starts on f |
| 05:01.28 | tem | Kraps, ^ |
| 05:01.40 | Seerah | no, because the clef sign originated from the letter F and because the two dots surround the line that F is on |
| 05:01.59 | tem | the cleff symbol |
| 05:02.03 | tem | starts on f |
| 05:02.11 | tem | the top line is a |
| 05:02.15 | Seerah | yes |
| 05:02.34 | tem | oops |
| 05:02.41 | tem | it's 2 minutes base when I'm supposed to sleep |
| 05:02.49 | Seerah | me, too |
| 05:03.06 | Seerah | and I gotta take out dogs and brush my teeth etc |
| 05:03.06 | mckenziemc | i'm not familiar with music anymore, is there only one F in that set? |
| 05:03.12 | mckenziemc | (is register the term?) |
| 05:03.17 | Seerah | yes. the lower F is just below the staff |
| 05:03.25 | Seerah | (probably :) ) |
| 05:03.30 | Seerah | (<- tired) |
| 05:03.58 | tem | Seerah, I think you're correct |
| 05:04.01 | Seerah | All Cows Eat Grass and Great Big Dogs Fight Animals ;) |
| 05:04.09 | tem | goodnight everyone |
| 05:04.21 | tem|afk | derp |
| 05:04.30 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@adsl-242-185-176.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:04.38 | Kraps | you can use FACE in the treble part |
| 05:04.57 | tem|afk | every good boy does fine |
| 05:05.04 | tem|afk | in trebble |
| 05:07.20 | Kraps | oh a tie doesnt mean you hit the note twice |
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| 05:08.01 | kd3 | no, it ties two notes together, play them as one |
| 05:08.12 | kd3 | two quarters across a bar line tied together = a half note |
| 05:09.24 | tem|afk | shit ufkc ogddamit |
| 05:09.32 | tem|afk | I put clothes in the laundry |
| 05:09.45 | kd3 | they're rather soaked now, I take it, since they're still there |
| 05:09.59 | tem|afk | now I have to hang up shirts |
| 05:10.03 | tem|afk | and that's never gopod |
| 05:12.12 | tem|afk | is it weird that I have the gnome /train sound effect stuck in myheard? |
| 05:12.23 | Cide | yes |
| 05:12.28 | Cide | also, what is myheard? |
| 05:12.45 | kd3 | better or worse: the ghast idle cooing? |
| 05:12.52 | kd3 | ^ stuck in my head atm |
| 05:13.04 | tem|afk | <never been to the nether |
| 05:13.10 | tem|afk | smp needs nethersupport imo |
| 05:13.20 | Wobin | +1 |
| 05:13.52 | Wobin | You should be able to build special portals in the nether that connect you to the nether in other SMP servers |
| 05:14.23 | Wobin | or somehow the mats for a TARDIS where you need Lapis to stain wood |
| 05:15.53 | tem|afk | my names tard |
| 05:15.57 | tem|afk | what is tardis |
| 05:16.07 | Wobin | it's what you is |
| 05:16.30 | tem|afk | kl |
| 05:17.31 | tem|afk | k done dealing with laundry |
| 05:17.34 | tem|afk | to bed with me |
| 05:17.35 | Kraps | scales are alway:s whole x2, half, whole x3, half? |
| 05:17.35 | tem|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.00 | kd3 | normally, yes. there are some oddball scales |
| 05:18.00 | tem|afk | yeah |
| 05:18.08 | tem|afk | though that's a weird way of thinking of it |
| 05:18.10 | tem|afk | kd3, no |
| 05:18.16 | tem|afk | all major scales are that pattern |
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| 05:18.30 | tem|afk | unless you were meaning the other types |
| 05:18.30 | kd3 | that's why I said oddball |
| 05:18.36 | Wobin | but then you have pentatonic scales |
| 05:18.43 | Wobin | which aren't 'oddball' |
| 05:18.47 | Wobin | just different scales =P |
| 05:18.50 | tem|afk | dorian, phrygian, etc |
| 05:19.20 | Kraps | thats only the major scale |
| 05:19.23 | Dewin | One of these days I will actually play Minecraft. |
| 05:19.27 | tem|afk | aolian |
| 05:19.29 | Dewin | This would probably be a very bad idea though. |
| 05:19.34 | Wobin | Dewin: what are you waiting for? |
| 05:19.38 | Wobin | The price to go up? |
| 05:19.50 | Kraps | according to this there are 3 different minor scales |
| 05:19.57 | tem|afk | aye |
| 05:19.59 | tem|afk | natural |
| 05:20.03 | Wobin | harmonic |
| 05:20.05 | tem|afk | something with an h |
| 05:20.16 | tem|afk | and something else that's different on the way down |
| 05:20.20 | tem|afk | don't remember the name |
| 05:20.26 | Wobin | nor I =) |
| 05:20.29 | Wobin | it's been a while |
| 05:20.33 | Dewin | Wobin: The fact that I probably don't need another massive waste of time to be addicted to? :) |
| 05:20.42 | Wobin | Dewin: pft, man up =P |
| 05:20.47 | kesor | melodic |
| 05:20.58 | Wobin | your massive wastes of time can fight it out between themselves =) |
| 05:21.02 | Wobin | kesor: that's the one |
| 05:21.05 | tem|afk | melodic |
| 05:21.07 | tem|afk | derp |
| 05:21.11 | tem|afk | kesor beat me to it |
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| 05:21.40 | Dewin | Wobin: Yeah, but I don't think "Be right there guys, just working on this minecart delivery system" is a good reason to be late for raid. Especially as an officer. |
| 05:21.59 | kd3 | going to be a lot easier to design those soon |
| 05:22.05 | Wobin | http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/04/maslows-hierarchy-of-needs-revised/ |
| 05:22.06 | kd3 | is really, really looking forward to 1.5 |
| 05:22.10 | kesor | this stuff looks really nice on my axis-48, testing out scales on that thing is amazing |
| 05:22.21 | tem|afk | kd3, me too |
| 05:22.32 | tem|afk | looks like we get booster track and detector track |
| 05:22.35 | tem|afk | is excited |
| 05:22.48 | tem|afk | I'm 20m late for sleep |
| 05:22.54 | tem|afk | fucking laundry |
| 05:22.55 | tem|afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.56 | Cide | I'm 7h20m |
| 05:22.58 | Cide | do I win |
| 05:23.09 | Iriel | Tem: That'll be damn cool |
| 05:23.23 | Iriel | I just started a station recently, and less booster space == good |
| 05:23.25 | tem|afk | Iriel, jeb was tweeting about it this week |
| 05:23.46 | Iriel | I saw |
| 05:24.14 | tem|afk | http://twitter.com/jeb_/status/57727865491431425 |
| 05:25.26 | tem|afk | http://twitter.com/jeb_/status/57379071235076096 |
| 05:25.34 | tem|afk | not sure what "break carts" means |
| 05:25.38 | tem|afk | oh |
| 05:25.45 | tem|afk | apply "the breaks" |
| 05:25.57 | tem|afk | I like it |
| 05:26.05 | tem|afk | anyway, it's time for sleep |
| 05:26.07 | tem|afk | later guys |
| 05:26.13 | Wobin | night tem |
| 05:26.25 | Adys | tem|afk: he meant brake |
| 05:26.39 | tem|afk | shuch tyiou |
| 05:26.48 | tem|afk | I can't differenciate homonymns right now |
| 05:26.57 | tem|afk | shush |
| 05:27.00 | Adys | what's a homonym |
| 05:27.09 | tem|afk | to too two |
| 05:27.11 | tem|afk | your you're |
| 05:27.20 | tem|afk | their there they're |
| 05:27.22 | Adys | explain in more complex terms |
| 05:27.34 | tem|afk | words that sound the same but have different spellings |
| 05:27.41 | tem|afk | (and meanings) |
| 05:27.56 | mascondante | Good evening, night owls :-) |
| 05:27.57 | Adys | explain the way I'd find it in an english major paper |
| 05:28.07 | tem|afk | fuck english majors |
| 05:28.13 | tem|afk | (that's what they're good for) |
| 05:28.15 | Adys | only if they're hot |
| 05:28.50 | tem|afk | my standards are pretty low if they can form a complete sentence |
| 05:29.10 | tem|afk | "lol u wanna go to eat" |
| 05:29.14 | tem|afk | no. no I do not. |
| 05:29.17 | Kraps | well crap http://www.musictheory.net/lessons/25 |
| 05:29.18 | kesor | and if they can't, all the better. |
| 05:30.19 | tem|afk | dumb chicks are not for me |
| 05:30.26 | tem|afk | they're just so dumb |
| 05:30.42 | tem|afk | dumb and crazy are real, real close |
| 05:31.01 | tem|afk | s/crazy/illogical/ |
| 05:31.18 | tem|afk | fuck I need to sleep |
| 05:31.24 | Wobin | Kraps: yeah, key signatures are painful =P |
| 05:31.38 | tem|afk | god dammit wobin |
| 05:31.45 | tem|afk | you're keeping me here |
| 05:31.50 | tem|afk | because they aren't painful at all! |
| 05:31.53 | Wobin | Go to bed, Tem |
| 05:32.02 | Wobin | hahah =) |
| 05:33.16 | tem|afk | this weird thing kraps linked is super confusing |
| 05:33.31 | tem|afk | just remember how flat and sharp keys work |
| 05:33.33 | Adys | why dont you just go to bed |
| 05:33.43 | tem|afk | the second to last flat is the key |
| 05:33.55 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 05:33.58 | Fisker | i have 20 potatoes |
| 05:33.59 | tem|afk | and the last sharp is -1/2 from the key |
| 05:34.13 | tem|afk | Adys, beacause internet |
| 05:34.41 | Adys | im just as guilty |
| 05:34.45 | Adys | was supposed to sleep hours ago |
| 05:34.48 | Adys | but at least i tried |
| 05:34.53 | tem|afk | beadgcf = flat order |
| 05:35.03 | tem|afk | reverse is sharp order |
| 05:35.09 | tem|afk | fcgdaeb |
| 05:35.18 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 05:35.21 | Fisker | 20 potatoes |
| 05:35.22 | tem|afk | much easier than trying to subtract keys or something |
| 05:35.31 | Fisker | imagine that |
| 05:35.34 | tem|afk | Fisker, I'll give you 100 potatoes to shut the fuck up |
| 05:35.53 | Wobin | what's the mnemonic you use for accidental order? |
| 05:36.08 | tem|afk | just learn it |
| 05:36.17 | tem|afk | bead-gcf |
| 05:36.29 | Wobin | bah, mnemonics are -tradiational-! |
| 05:36.34 | tem|afk | :) |
| 05:36.44 | tem|afk | there p[robably is oine, but I don't know it |
| 05:36.47 | Wobin | Father Charles Goes Down And Eats Beans! |
| 05:36.55 | tem|afk | Fisker, offer retracted, I'm going to sleep |
| 05:37.08 | tem|afk | third time's the charm I think |
| 05:37.10 | tem|afk | later guys' |
| 05:37.54 | Wobin | sleep well |
| 05:38.08 | Wobin | makes another massively generalised statement about music theory. |
| 05:38.24 | Kraps | make another! |
| 05:38.27 | tem|afk | too late I'm already gone |
| 05:38.29 | tem|afk | er |
| 05:38.31 | tem|afk | shit. |
| 05:39.04 | Shirik | Ok |
| 05:39.09 | Shirik | I'm researching a mutual fund for my 401(k) |
| 05:39.20 | Shirik | And google finance breaks down the % of assets they have in stocks, bonds, etc. |
| 05:39.44 | tem|afk | oh dammit |
| 05:39.47 | tem|afk | I need to do my taxes |
| 05:39.54 | tem|afk | NOT TONIGHT |
| 05:39.58 | kd3 | go to bed |
| 05:40.00 | tem|afk | GODDA MNIT GO TO BED |
| 05:40.00 | Shirik | This one claims "121.27% bonds, 0.04% preferred, 0.14% convertable, 19.05% other, -40.50% cash" |
| 05:40.01 | kd3 | do it when you wake up |
| 05:40.09 | Shirik | what the hell is that |
| 05:40.22 | tem|afk | Shirik, ask an accountant |
| 05:40.28 | tem|afk | if yuou don't know one |
| 05:40.31 | tem|afk | ask me tomorrow |
| 05:40.33 | tem|afk | I know onw |
| 05:41.49 | Kraps | clearly they're bad at math, stay away |
| 05:43.34 | Cide | -40% cash never sounds good |
| 05:43.44 | Adys | good night everyone |
| 05:43.46 | Adys | good night tem|afk |
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| 05:46.53 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.53 | Cide | Seven Hundred and Fifty Thousand Great Britain Pound Sterling?s(£750,000.00 GBP) Microsoft Yearly Draw. |
| 05:48.48 | Kraps | you lucky dog |
| 05:48.52 | kesor | oh, you wont that too?! .... they told me as well. |
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| 05:58.22 | mckenziemc | doh |
| 05:59.27 | mckenziemc | i have a set of folders with UUIDs as their names, and windows thinks it's being smart by sorting by decimal value (till it reaches the first letter) |
| 06:05.51 | Cide | ? |
| 06:06.13 | Cide | also known as lexicographical order? |
| 06:06.27 | Cide | oh, no |
| 06:07.02 | Cide | that is pretty smart, however |
| 06:07.43 | Cide | for most people, 11a coming before 1a is very unintuitive |
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| 06:18.41 | mikma | xinhuan: lol lol |
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| 06:22.56 | mikma | xinhuan: in case you read this and josma is in game, she might accept donations (gigantic amounts) of cobblestone at the south base |
| 06:23.41 | mikma | xinhuan: she grinded cobblestone hours for the track and her brrother had used them all for the grinder. she was pissed :P |
| 06:24.04 | Iriel | mikma my donation chest is almost full |
| 06:24.07 | Iriel | mikma of cobblestone |
| 06:24.59 | mikma | iriel: oh neat, i axhully took two stacks of it already cause i started to expand the tunnel but ran out of time. i'll continue it again today (+ connect the tracks for easy access) |
| 06:25.07 | Iriel | Please take it all 8-) |
| 06:25.37 | Jamash | oh yeah, take all that cobblestone, unh |
| 06:25.38 | mikma | it'll all propably go in the tunnel cause we'll do it at the end of the track |
| 06:25.57 | mikma | we got tons of glass in warehouse already |
| 06:25.58 | Jamash | tunnel... do it... too easy |
| 06:26.03 | Iriel | there's 36 full stacks there |
| 06:26.05 | Iriel | slaps Jamash |
| 06:26.11 | Jamash | kinky |
| 06:26.20 | mikma | iriel: did you seriously build all the tunnels by hand? |
| 06:26.26 | Iriel | Yes |
| 06:26.39 | mikma | uh oh |
| 06:26.44 | mikma | takes bloody ages |
| 06:27.00 | Jamash | that's a nice tunnel you have there, yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 06:27.13 | mikma | i was thinking of installing the worldedit mod but cogwheel doesnt have bukkit |
| 06:27.21 | Iriel | I usually do one long rail, then come back and do the other one 4 out, cross-beam, 4 out, cross-beam |
| 06:27.31 | Iriel | Modification mods are not permitted on the server |
| 06:27.34 | Iriel | you'll find yourself banished |
| 06:27.37 | Iriel | information only |
| 06:28.48 | mikma | yeap. worldedit mod (wireframe mod) would have been too easy, you can order "built 3 long 1 width block" -> blob -> "build 3 high 1 width block" -> blob |
| 06:29.07 | Iriel | That's no fun.. |
| 06:29.22 | Jamash | might as well just be using sketchup at that point |
| 06:29.35 | mikma | only thing i'd like to see on cogserver is the "Ruins" mod =) |
| 06:29.56 | mikma | it'll add abandoned and wrecked houses all over the map |
| 06:30.34 | mikma | bbl, worktime |
| 06:30.37 | Iriel | Dont we just give you a bucket of lava and get that for free? |
| 06:31.13 | mikma | iriel: check out the "Ruins" mod in minecraftforums -> released mods |
| 06:31.31 | Iriel | mikma: I know of it |
| 06:31.31 | zenzio | "Doctor Who. Buffy. Lord Of The Rings. Torchwood. The Matrix. Being Human. Are they all contributors to the lessening impact of death in science fiction movies and TV shows?" |
| 06:31.32 | mikma | its quite nice, created houses with cobblestone and moss |
| 06:31.37 | mikma | -> |
| 06:31.39 | zenzio | all right... Lord of the Rings... science fiction? O_o |
| 06:32.30 | Iriel | zenzio: It doesn't say it's SF, it says it's contributing to the lessenig impact of death in SF - it's valid |
| 06:32.45 | Jamash | I thought Marvel and DC were the culprits |
| 06:33.04 | zenzio | Iriel: I don't see the relevance, though I can see you're technically right |
| 06:33.24 | Iriel | zenzio: I wont comment on the relevance, i'm not sure I agree with the premise either |
| 06:33.32 | Jamash | also Gandalf is technically speaking an angel anyway |
| 06:35.26 | Iriel | The total lack of originality is the culprit |
| 06:35.34 | Iriel | nothing more, nothing less |
| 06:35.55 | Jamash | Arthur Conan Doyle's fans are the culprits |
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| 06:51.15 | zenzio | gah, it annoys me greatly when people write "Gandolf" |
| 06:51.58 | Cide | gandelf? |
| 06:52.13 | zenzio | >:-o |
| 06:53.03 | Jamash | gannondalf? |
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| 07:03.42 | Arrowmaster | steam can now be used to login to other sites? |
| 07:04.24 | Arrowmaster | when the fuck will i be able to login to all these services using my fucking openid instead of being able to login to other sites using them |
| 07:06.23 | airtonix | Wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQGIRA5x7eQ << lulz ensue |
| 07:07.02 | Fisker | i got 27 potatoes Arrowmaster |
| 07:07.17 | airtonix | digging in the sand... then suddnely! |
| 07:07.30 | airtonix | lolololol omnomnom |
| 07:13.03 | Shirik | Quicken is scary |
| 07:13.11 | Shirik | it knows more about my accounts than I do o.o |
| 07:15.01 | Cide | you're scary |
| 07:15.16 | Shirik | why :( |
| 07:15.30 | Cide | your name reminds me of kittens |
| 07:16.15 | Shirik | you're the one who started calling me shirikitty |
| 07:16.28 | Cide | no, that was your wikipedia buddy |
| 07:16.30 | Shirik | Do you do that to everyone that has a name ending in k? |
| 07:16.38 | Shirik | oh was it |
| 07:16.46 | Cide | I just kept using it |
| 07:17.51 | Shirik | sigh |
| 07:18.12 | Shirik | I need to rebalance my portfolio now but I can't until the market goes back up because the transfer was so botched |
| 07:18.26 | Shirik | I had like 45% of my investments in foreign mutual funds |
| 07:18.28 | zenzio | remember, you can't have suicide without cide |
| 07:18.48 | Shirik | so when I moved to a new company, obviously that means the majority should be moved to S&P 500 |
| 07:18.52 | Shirik | ... |
| 07:22.11 | Cide | totally |
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| 07:30.31 | Xinhuan | lol mikma |
| 07:30.45 | Xinhuan | i have fuck tons of cobblestone but no iron |
| 07:31.39 | Xinhuan | wanna trade so i don'thave to spend 6 hours digging? :P |
| 07:31.58 | Shirik | seriously does japan always have earthquakes this much? |
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| 07:37.07 | Xinhuan | if you believe what the geologists say |
| 07:37.19 | Xinhuan | west coast of US will have a super massive earthquake larger than this japan one |
| 07:37.27 | Xinhuan | in the next 50 years |
| 07:39.04 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:39.44 | Shirik | Probably in cali |
| 07:39.59 | Shirik | We need to wreck cali anyway |
| 07:40.34 | Iriel | Hey now |
| 07:42.21 | Shirik | hey let's be honest |
| 07:42.28 | Shirik | I mean there's a lot of good stuff in cali |
| 07:42.32 | Shirik | but there's a lot of really bad stuff too |
| 07:42.51 | Shirik | aren't you guys in an economic crisis or something? |
| 07:43.00 | Iriel | I think that's a permanent state of affairs |
| 07:43.33 | Shirik | is that "we're always screwed up" or "there's always something to complain about" |
| 07:43.49 | Iriel | the former? |
| 07:44.08 | Iriel | But hey, I just live here |
| 07:44.11 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 07:44.23 | Shirik | I dunno I thought cali was doing well until the governator took over |
| 07:44.32 | Iriel | Well, it wasn't AS bad |
| 07:44.45 | Iriel | he helped not at all by giving away a ton of $$ |
| 07:45.05 | Iriel | In one of those "popular yet retarded" moves |
| 07:45.50 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:45.57 | Shirik | I like it up here in oregon :D |
| 07:46.04 | Shirik | And I have no idea who my governor is |
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| 08:05.12 | Torhal | So, Fisker - how long have you been the governor of Oregon? |
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| 08:55.48 | zenzio | "Now hypothetically: Given the crew size of 430 (from a Star Trek website devoted to starships) and no replacement, that means that the casualty rate aboard the Enterprise was around 22.3%! Is the "Legendary Captain" status of Kirk based on his abilities or the fact that he actually survived those 5 years? " |
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| 09:08.24 | mckenziemc | oh, serves me right |
| 09:08.53 | mckenziemc | i got fooled by WowAce's april fool, since i haven't checked the site since before then |
| 09:09.54 | bluspacecow | wowace april fools ? |
| 09:09.56 | bluspacecow | what you do ? |
| 09:10.03 | bluspacecow | i mean what they do ? |
| 09:10.30 | mckenziemc | actually i'm kinda confused now |
| 09:10.47 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://dogatar.com/party-harder/ |
| 09:10.58 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 09:11.05 | mckenziemc | it says they have a new look, now i'm assuming they did actually have a special layout for the day |
| 09:11.23 | mckenziemc | but for a bit i was confused that it was just the same old look with an announcement saying otherwise |
| 09:17.26 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://screencast.com/t/wzw7a9xOFYP |
| 09:17.38 | Cairenn | awwww!! |
| 09:21.05 | Wobin | ok, I'm impressed: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/feathermoon/everbloom/statistic#128 |
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| 09:26.16 | Fisker | i'm scared Wobin |
| 09:28.32 | Wobin | yeah, me too |
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| 09:35.20 | mikma | xinhuan: all my iron is going into the new tracks |
| 09:35.39 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 09:36.38 | mikma | xinhuan: y u no infomods |
| 09:36.47 | mikma | fiskekekekekeker |
| 09:37.02 | Xinhuan | cos i'm playing it hardcore |
| 09:37.16 | bluspacecow | mods is possible on SMP ? |
| 09:37.23 | bluspacecow | thought the server had to be patched >_> |
| 09:37.28 | bluspacecow | what is infomod ? |
| 09:37.30 | mikma | digging without pickaxe? |
| 09:39.48 | Fisker | hey mikma |
| 09:39.54 | Xinhuan | a modified .jar that adds stuff and info |
| 09:39.57 | mckenziemc | hey mckenziemc |
| 09:39.58 | Xinhuan | for the client |
| 09:40.10 | Xinhuan | such as minimap, or blips for certain ore types |
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| 10:16.49 | Fisker | damn haste |
| 10:17.06 | Fisker | Swedes are the jerkiest jerks amirite? |
| 10:20.28 | Cide | fuuuu |
| 10:21.51 | Cairenn | Fisker: not true! Cide is a Swedeheart! |
| 10:22.02 | Cide | word. |
| 10:23.39 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=448 <== see, it's even his title on the site! |
| 10:27.04 | sylvanaar | looking for some more folks willing to try out my IDE. I want to start the 1.0 releases soon, so I wanted to get any last issues knocked out |
| 10:27.59 | sylvanaar | been working on it for over a year - its worth giving it a try if you havent |
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| 10:29.23 | sylvanaar | heres a link anyways: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home |
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| 10:30.58 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || BC Tickets on Sale May 21 and 25th. http://bit.ly/dR0B0R || "I rhing inxoneol and fewroep sis PEWRRY FOOD JOV" -tem | Test Sylvanaar's IDE: http://bit.ly/hxTzyh |
| 10:31.07 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:31.14 | sylvanaar | thanks Cairenn |
| 10:31.21 | Cairenn | you're welcome :) |
| 10:34.06 | zenzio | sylvanaar2? |
| 10:34.20 | sylvanaar | yeah, i lost my password for sylvanaar |
| 10:34.25 | sylvanaar | dunno what happened |
| 10:34.28 | zenzio | doh :) |
| 10:35.12 | sylvanaar | made the mistake of using openid or whatever |
| 10:35.16 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: isn't there a recovery option? |
| 10:35.22 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:35.25 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 10:35.36 | sylvanaar | openid there isnt |
| 10:37.00 | haste | Fisker: Cide is a great example! |
| 10:37.09 | sylvanaar | most people in this channel will want to follow the screencast http://www.screencast.com/t/78ltrNMsC7 to get set up, since it shows how to set up the wowapi and framexml library |
| 10:37.12 | Cide | of swedehearts |
| 10:37.39 | haste | heart of jerks! :--D |
| 10:37.53 | Cide | longnose |
| 10:38.19 | haste | I like my noses long and head tilted! |
| 10:38.26 | haste | :----D \:D/ |
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| 10:41.16 | Cide | \-v-/ |
| 10:41.18 | Cide | HAPPY BIRD |
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| 10:50.27 | Cowmonster_ | Anyone know of a good resource that explains the use of the secure state driver? |
| 10:51.16 | haste | The comments explain some, the code everything, other add-ons might help as well |
| 10:54.31 | Cowmonster_ | AddOns are full of superfluous options code and make references to proprietary functions and variables. Was thinking something more along the lines of a resource that just explains the functions and possibly a simple syntax example. |
| 10:55.03 | Cairenn | have you looked at WoW Programming? |
| 10:55.07 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 10:55.08 | purl | well, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 10:56.16 | Cowmonster_ | I looked, but did not see. I'll look again. Perhaps I misspelled the function when I searched before. |
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| 11:00.49 | zenzio | http://morsemyip.com/ |
| 11:07.23 | Cide | that is loud as fuck |
| 11:09.07 | mckenziemc | turn your volume down? |
| 11:11.16 | Cairenn | fuuuuuck, it's amazing how some things can have such a hold over you even 20 years later |
| 11:11.40 | zenzio | kids? |
| 11:12.50 | Cairenn | History channel doing a special on a serial killer that was in New Brunswick in '89 - and even just the sound of his name has me quaking in my chair - the entire province was terrified of this guy |
| 11:15.50 | Cowmonster_ | Okay I am fairly certain now that wowprogramming.com does not have anything about what I am looking for. The only place they have any of the secure functions referenced that I can find is the FrameXML and that is certainly not what I am looking for. |
| 11:16.26 | foxlit | http://www.wowpedia.org/SecureStateDriver |
| 11:17.50 | Cowmonster_ | foxlit to the rescue |
| 11:24.29 | mckenziemc | doh |
| 11:24.39 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/QoULe.jpg |
| 11:24.58 | mckenziemc | os.mknod doesn't seem to be available on windows, even though the python docs (for the version i'm using) don't say it's unix specific |
| 11:26.23 | mckenziemc | i don't see any semantic mistakes but i'm getting 'module' object has no attribute 'mknod' -- should i just use open to make a file? i just want to create it, don't need to put anything in (also, python 3.1.3 |
| 11:26.24 | mckenziemc | ) |
| 11:28.12 | Arrowmaster | sounds extremely unix specific |
| 11:28.35 | Arrowmaster | since the mknod command on unix ish systems is used to create device files |
| 11:28.41 | Cide | Create a filesystem node (file, device special file or named pipe) |
| 11:28.42 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.42 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.42 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.42 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.43 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.50 | Cide | yay spam |
| 11:36.21 | foxlit | "For some strange reason, when defining a function using "function name()" syntax, the compiler takes a C-style behavior in which any externals must be defined prior to declaration. The "name=function()" syntax is loose in this respect as long as the externals are defined before the function is called." |
| 11:36.23 | foxlit | WHY. |
| 11:37.06 | foxlit | Why do people insist on posting obviously wrong stuff to almost any language-related forum thread :( |
| 11:37.54 | Arrowmaster | is that talking about Lua? |
| 11:37.56 | Arrowmaster | if so lol |
| 11:38.31 | foxlit | it is indeed trying to talk about Lua. |
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| 11:41.15 | Cide | hahaha what. |
| 11:46.01 | mckenziemc | trying to learn by experience (making wrong analyses along the way) rather than by reference i suppose |
| 11:50.05 | mckenziemc | which reminds me, i still need to get around to reading pil >.> |
| 11:53.56 | tem | MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS |
| 11:54.06 | tem | i mean uh |
| 11:54.07 | tem | hi |
| 11:54.57 | mckenziemc | how's the hangover |
| 11:58.35 | mckenziemc | baw i can't figure out a way to trick windows explorer into sorting hexadecimal names in any useful name |
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| 11:59.12 | mckenziemc | even if i prefix it with a character, it breaks it into string chunks and decimal chunks, sorting the chunks in order |
| 12:03.12 | Mikk | clearly need to use 1337speak |
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| 12:06.50 | Cide | yeah how is the hangover tem |
| 12:07.01 | tem | don't get hangovers |
| 12:07.17 | Cide | me neither |
| 12:07.19 | Cide | but I'm happy for you |
| 12:07.31 | mckenziemc | I don't either: I don't drink! |
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| 12:11.59 | tem | I just watched a video of HD playing terran |
| 12:12.09 | tem | and cheesing like a motherfucker against another zerg player |
| 12:12.28 | tem | How can you do that, man? |
| 12:12.35 | tem | Race Traitor. |
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| 12:19.09 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:19.25 | alestane | Yay hugs! |
| 12:19.34 | Cairenn | huggles alestane too |
| 12:20.45 | alestane | Mmm, hugs. |
| 12:22.15 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn. Heya, alestane. |
| 12:22.17 | alestane | huggles Peppy for good measure. |
| 12:22.49 | mckenziemc | abstains. |
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| 13:08.02 | Kraps | hey Lopeppeppy, i got me a music keyboard and imma try to musicate with it |
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| 13:09.11 | Lopeppeppy | Please don't irrigate the cat. |
| 13:09.54 | Kraps | of course not |
| 13:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | Then I graciouisly wish you well of your keyboard - I rather liked my piano lessons. |
| 13:13.10 | Kraps | blizzards benefit dinner is a formal thing? |
| 13:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'd have to see a description to tell you. |
| 13:15.03 | alestane | Does one irrigate the cat so that it will bear a better crop next year? |
| 13:15.43 | Lopeppeppy | Only if one has paws to spare, alestane. |
| 13:16.02 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: they have one every year no? |
| 13:16.14 | Lopeppeppy | Not the year I went, dear, so I'm not familiar. |
| 13:16.47 | Lopeppeppy | Without information I would say khakis and a button down. Not con-attire. I doubt they expect suits and tuxes, but dressed well is never out of fashion. |
| 13:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, what did you see of the benefit dinner last year? |
| 13:17.11 | alestane | I didn't. |
| 13:17.58 | Kraps | "On Thursday, October 20, Blizzard will host a special pre-BlizzCon dinner to benefit the Children's Hospital of Orange County, where guests can meet and chat with game developers, executives, and other folks from Blizzard before the show. A limited number of tickets go on sale Saturday, May 28 at 10 a.m. Pacific Time." |
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| 13:18.18 | alestane | Thursday night I was at the UI community Dinner. |
| 13:18.54 | Lopeppeppy | Business dressy then, nothing too fanciful but not con-wear. I'm sure you'll see some people in tshirts and jeans, but khakis and a polo are never out of fashion. |
| 13:19.08 | bluspacecow | hai2u Loppy |
| 13:19.43 | Lopeppeppy | Heya blu! How's the vacation-time treating you? Did you sleep, or mine all night? |
| 13:20.37 | bluspacecow | i mined |
| 13:20.41 | bluspacecow | then i slept |
| 13:21.28 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is good for the soul. |
| 13:23.19 | mckenziemc | it's called minecraft not minesleep |
| 13:24.27 | bluspacecow | i minecrafted |
| 13:24.32 | bluspacecow | then after i minecrafted |
| 13:24.34 | bluspacecow | i slept |
| 13:24.52 | bluspacecow | and all of creation looked upon this and saw it was good |
| 13:24.58 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 13:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. A bluspacecow asleep is a bluspacecow not getting into mischief. |
| 13:25.36 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 13:25.39 | bluspacecow | who me ? |
| 13:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | I was maybe talking about your cousin? Of course you! |
| 13:27.00 | mikma | shadowed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPP0I1zs1T0&hd=1 ! woot woot :) |
| 13:30.41 | mckenziemc | oh boy, time to organize my files again |
| 13:31.05 | zenzio | yeah, it can be good to categorise your porn from time to time |
| 13:31.06 | mckenziemc | stuff that i shoved off the desktop some time ago into an arbitrary folder :( |
| 13:31.14 | mckenziemc | nah i already have that covered ;) |
| 13:35.08 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 13:35.18 | Fisker | i also called and had the humble bundle 1 and 2 charged back as well |
| 13:35.26 | Fisker | oh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeah's |
| 13:35.38 | Ackis | why so charge back Fisker/ |
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| 13:37.11 | Ackis | Fisker: why did you say those bad things about Mikk? |
| 13:37.52 | Mikk | Because "Fisker" means "fisherman" and one of the things that fishermen do is trolling |
| 13:38.22 | Fisker | you got trolled by an ackisman Mikk |
| 13:38.37 | Fisker | btw Ackis because they sold a gaem that i couldn't use!1 |
| 13:38.45 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 13:39.04 | Fisker | Jack Claw or whatever it's called needs an xbox 360 controller to work :( |
| 13:39.10 | Fisker | (Which they're patching soon, etc.) |
| 13:43.09 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1951406027?page=14#270 |
| 13:43.16 | Fisker | it's so cute when they hide behind alts :3 |
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| 13:44.48 | mikma | http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1032&t=247598&sid=4053d72eb3f1c38f683e9e79d6b384a7 :D |
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| 13:47.17 | bluspacecow | who's our trigger happy tnt users on our minecraft server xinny ? |
| 13:47.33 | Xinhuan | some guy that begins with M |
| 13:48.55 | mikma | MetroMole? |
| 13:50.37 | mckenziemc | lulz Fisker |
| 13:50.45 | Ackis | WoW needs to have invasions, and constantly happening world events like Rift |
| 13:50.54 | Ackis | Twitter and Youtube integration would be sexy too |
| 13:51.02 | mitch0 | blah |
| 13:51.03 | Xinhuan | hint, its 5 letters long |
| 13:51.16 | mckenziemc | Fisker: anyway, is there some other way to tell besides temporarily ignoring their main? |
| 13:51.25 | Ackis | Ackis: I earned this achievement: Victory: The Black Garden! http://yfrog.com/nk20110412215735j #RiftFeed |
| 13:52.47 | Fisker | bluspacecow are you on cogwheel's server? |
| 13:52.53 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 13:53.17 | Fisker | oh and i'm the vandal |
| 13:53.19 | Fisker | fuck you ;( |
| 13:53.25 | Fisker | but no mckenziemc |
| 13:53.27 | bluspacecow | wot ? |
| 13:53.28 | Ackis | we ban vandals |
| 13:53.40 | Fisker | i was hoping someone would make a database that indexes ignores |
| 13:53.49 | Fisker | but idk if the ignore id is the same though |
| 13:54.04 | Fisker | i think it was, but it was some time ago i did the research |
| 13:54.39 | Fisker | bluspacecow i didn't join your server and now i can't because cogwheel is a jerk :( |
| 13:54.54 | Ackis | ha ha |
| 13:54.59 | Ackis | cogwheel: 1 Fisker: 0 |
| 13:55.01 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 13:55.20 | bluspacecow | you would just hack the server so all the buildings line up the words Fisker killed a man once. |
| 13:56.06 | Fisker | maybe Ackis |
| 13:56.09 | Ackis | Fisker: I'm still blackmailing you http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind |
| 13:56.20 | Fisker | but if so it would've been an owngoal with the goalie being cogwheel |
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| 13:59.15 | Wobin | oh god no |
| 13:59.23 | Wobin | no twitter/fb intergration with WoW plz |
| 13:59.44 | Wobin | Rift is bad enough, and I don't even play =P |
| 14:00.06 | Ackis | rift is a bit too spammy, I need to turn it off |
| 14:00.42 | mckenziemc | twitter is a bit too retarded, i need to turn the server off |
| 14:00.58 | foxlit_ | has earned the achievement: 500 friends on bookspace. |
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| 14:03.14 | Cowmonster | Okay I'm not seeing the problem here. Started working on new actionbars, but for some reason buttons 2-12 are out of alignment with the rest of the bars. Someone please tell me you see what I am overlooking. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149054 |
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| 14:06.04 | Fisker | facebook needs to be destroyed |
| 14:06.10 | Fisker | twitter as well actually |
| 14:06.11 | Fisker | and blogs |
| 14:06.43 | Cowmonster | Yep |
| 14:08.02 | Cowmonster | of course then if there was no {everything}-ville for the mindless masses to occupy their time with then we might have a greater influx of stupid in games like World of Warcraft. |
| 14:09.36 | mitch0 | so, we got folks here who offer boost-to-2200-rating-in-a-day for 15k gold :( |
| 14:10.07 | bluspacecow | BRB gotta go polish the Fisker. |
| 14:11.15 | Cowmonster | So anyone see what I'm missing on my ActionBars? |
| 14:12.24 | Ackis | mitch0: I'm trying to find someone that will do that for me :( |
| 14:13.11 | Cowmonster | Is that one of those "give me your account and I'll play it" deals or they gonna PvP with you and carry you to that rating? |
| 14:13.26 | mckenziemc | the former i would imagine |
| 14:13.36 | Cowmonster | If it is a "carry me" deal they'd probably charge me double lol |
| 14:15.15 | Cowmonster | I PvP so little as is I don't think I have enough honor for a single piece of gear on any of my toons and I've got all the crafting/gathering professions except JC and I don't think across all my toons I have even half a PvP set. lol |
| 14:16.57 | Cowmonster | wowprogramming |
| 14:20.05 | mitch0 | I believe they use some sort of pre-arranged matches |
| 14:20.24 | mitch0 | "we give you 5v5 wins in exchange for 2v2 and 3v3 wins" |
| 14:20.37 | mckenziemc | good point |
| 14:21.01 | Ackis | http://www.gamepron.com/news/2011/04/12/garrys-mod-catches-pirates-the-fun-way/ lol |
| 14:22.56 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 14:23.09 | Cairenn | that's excellent |
| 14:24.04 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:24.10 | Ackis | it's like what batman arkham asylum did |
| 14:24.11 | Fisker | except it catches innocent because he's a retard |
| 14:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | That's hilarious! |
| 14:24.46 | nevcairiel | you're not innocent, fisker |
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| 14:25.27 | Fisker | i wasn't caught (Nor would i have any reason to be caught) |
| 14:25.48 | Cowmonster | That is epic. |
| 14:25.53 | Ackis | Fisker: it caught 3 innocent users who had to restart the game to work: http://www.garry.tv/?p=2410 |
| 14:25.56 | Cairenn | I think it's absolutely brilliant |
| 14:26.09 | Fisker | yep Ackis |
| 14:26.15 | Fisker | that was 3 innocent users too many |
| 14:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | An innocent user can always make the argument and get their game back. Compared to the number of pirates it caught? |
| 14:26.26 | nevcairiel | oh no, they had to restart the game |
| 14:27.16 | mckenziemc | "Scientists are investigating ways to harness the wind energy within the jet stream. According to one estimate, of the potential wind energy in the jet stream, only 1 percent would be needed to meet the world's current energy needs. The required technology would reportedly take 10â20 years to develop." O.o |
| 14:27.25 | Cowmonster | Still looking for someone to help with figuring out why my actionbars aren't lining up. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149054 |
| 14:27.49 | Cowmonster | Buttons 2-12 don't line up with the rest of the buttons like they are supposed to. |
| 14:27.57 | Fisker | he can easily do what he wants without crashing the game for legitimate users |
| 14:28.16 | Cowmonster | It has to be something simple I'm overlooking, but I just don't see it. |
| 14:28.41 | nevcairiel | the crash was just a bug and will not happen again, shh :p |
| 14:28.47 | Fisker | Luckily for him his game is not the kind of game that would be affected by it anyway, but you're stupid if you make copy protection that crashes the game |
| 14:28.51 | Fisker | no |
| 14:28.54 | Fisker | the crash was the point |
| 14:29.06 | nevcairiel | the crash for the innocents, i mean |
| 14:29.16 | nevcairiel | it will not crash for legimate users ever again |
| 14:29.21 | Fisker | It was a fake crash, so pirates would register on the forum, post help for support, be banned because he could then lookup the supplied steam id |
| 14:29.23 | nevcairiel | +ti |
| 14:31.04 | nevcairiel | I remember ArmA2 having a copy protection that made the game impossible to play when cracked, extremly hard and unstable, that was fun :d |
| 14:31.21 | mckenziemc | "It seems that the developer has deliberately enabled an error in GMod, which will only affect people who have pirated the game." I don't understand what they mean by the last part |
| 14:31.38 | Fisker | Well as some developers have learned, it's not all that fun when the pirates word of mouth spread so far that you can't distinguish the real issues from the copy protection |
| 14:32.07 | nevcairiel | mckenziemc: it crashes if you stole the game, how hard is that to understand? :D |
| 14:32.22 | nevcairiel | brb |
| 14:32.22 | Wobin | I suspect it pulls your steam id, and checks steam to see if you've purchased it |
| 14:32.27 | Wobin | and if not, it crashes your game |
| 14:32.37 | Wobin | or something |
| 14:32.48 | Ackis | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/94524-Arkham-Asylum-Pirates-Get-a-Gimpy-Batman |
| 14:32.56 | mckenziemc | doesn't sound like it works in that order based on the article : / |
| 14:33.16 | Fisker | the funny part is that it doesn't actually do anything worthwhile to his issue |
| 14:33.23 | Fisker | and he could easily have fixed it otherwise |
| 14:33.29 | Fisker | Need support? Input steam id |
| 14:33.33 | Fisker | GG, case closed. |
| 14:33.49 | Wobin | I'm only assumpting |
| 14:33.59 | Fisker | you're right though |
| 14:34.10 | Fisker | the reason why it was hitting legitimate users is because he was hashing the results |
| 14:34.11 | Cairenn | still finds it funny, regardless :p |
| 14:34.12 | mckenziemc | waiting for nev to come back :( |
| 14:34.12 | Fisker | err |
| 14:34.13 | Fisker | caching |
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| 14:34.25 | Fisker | so they got hit by the crash because he hadn't updated the cache |
| 14:34.36 | Wobin | the cache of legitimate users? |
| 14:34.59 | Fisker | something like that |
| 14:35.03 | mckenziemc | (7:32:12 AM) nevcairiel: mckenziemc: it crashes if you stole the game, how hard is that to understand? :D |
| 14:35.04 | mckenziemc | ^ how does it know you actually stole the game |
| 14:35.19 | nevcairiel | it phones home |
| 14:35.22 | mckenziemc | sounds like the steam id only comes into play as after-the-fact verification |
| 14:35.24 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 14:35.25 | nevcairiel | checks your steam id |
| 14:35.25 | Fisker | by crossreferencing your steam id with the the list of people who purchased it |
| 14:35.58 | Fisker | the crash is only there for verification if he posts on the forum basically |
| 14:36.26 | Fisker | but he could still just have required people to verify their steam profile in order to receive support |
| 14:36.45 | mckenziemc | article didn't say they used something besides the forum post to find the pirates : / |
| 14:36.46 | Wobin | ah, and he can ban the id if they post the error message |
| 14:37.08 | Fisker | Let me just re-explain |
| 14:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | Article probably doesn't have all of the various details of the process, you know. |
| 14:37.15 | Fisker | Garry's Mod is started |
| 14:37.19 | Fisker | Client sends back Steam ID |
| 14:37.30 | Fisker | Server verifies Steam ID with list of valid Steam ID's |
| 14:37.36 | mckenziemc | i realize, just saying the article was confusing |
| 14:37.37 | Fisker | If it checks out, it just does nothing |
| 14:37.48 | Ackis | Fisker: can you draw me a diagram please? |
| 14:37.52 | Fisker | If it doesn't, it crashes the game with the error + your steam id |
| 14:38.04 | mckenziemc | Fisker: right, so the forum part is an afterthought. The way the article is written suggests otherwise |
| 14:38.15 | Fisker | So you post on the forum, and the moderator can check the steam ID if it was actually pirated or if it was just a mistake |
| 14:38.42 | Fisker | Which of course is funny since legitimate users can never be affected anymore!1 |
| 14:38.47 | mckenziemc | if the game already checked the id, the forum part is unneeded |
| 14:39.25 | Fisker | If it didn't have the ID, all those 3 legitimate users caught in the crash would've been banned mckenziemc |
| 14:39.36 | Fisker | It's basically just a way to double-check the mechanism |
| 14:39.45 | mckenziemc | no it isn't |
| 14:39.51 | Fisker | yes it is |
| 14:39.56 | mckenziemc | not if the game already did the exact same check in order to produce the error |
| 14:40.07 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:40.14 | Fisker | and the machine deemed 3 players pirated the game |
| 14:40.15 | Fisker | which they did |
| 14:40.17 | Fisker | didn't |
| 14:40.24 | mckenziemc | how does the forum part add anything? as far as i can tell |
| 14:40.27 | Fisker | HUMAN BEINGS that were on the forums verified that the machine was wrong |
| 14:40.45 | mckenziemc | that doesn't make sense, Fisker |
| 14:40.53 | Fisker | of course it does |
| 14:41.13 | mckenziemc | if the game checked the steam id, and the human beings checked the same id, where's the difference coming from |
| 14:41.28 | mckenziemc | something's fishy, and your claim does not explain it |
| 14:41.36 | Fisker | it does |
| 14:41.45 | Fisker | as i said he was using cached values to look against |
| 14:41.46 | Wobin | haha, one of the few times Fisker is being straight =P |
| 14:41.52 | Wobin | and he gets called out on it =P |
| 14:41.55 | Lopeppeppy | cache makes all the difference. |
| 14:42.08 | mckenziemc | what do you mean by cache |
| 14:42.18 | Wobin | it means that Gary had a list of valid ids |
| 14:42.21 | Wobin | that was out of date |
| 14:42.56 | Wobin | or incomplete for whatever reason |
| 14:43.03 | mckenziemc | ah, the game was checking a hardcoded list rather than the list on the server |
| 14:43.13 | mckenziemc | the forum part still wasn't necessary for that... |
| 14:43.29 | Wobin | well, it is for legitimate users that weren't in the cache |
| 14:43.31 | mckenziemc | well sorta |
| 14:43.38 | Wobin | they report a bug |
| 14:43.39 | Fisker | It's great to have a way to verify that your program is working as expected when faced with error |
| 14:43.44 | Fisker | the steam ID is one such mechanism |
| 14:43.45 | Wobin | and get their number put into the list |
| 14:43.56 | mckenziemc | if it remains hardcoded, then yes |
| 14:44.15 | Wobin | I'm not sure what we're arguing about =P |
| 14:44.25 | Wobin | It's pretty straightforward |
| 14:44.25 | Fisker | It was useful in determining an issue with his steam ID's being cached rather than updated upon request, it could also have been useful in other cases |
| 14:44.28 | mckenziemc | information i was expected to have but didn't |
| 14:44.39 | Fisker | such as a general programming error, the steam servers being down, and so forth |
| 14:45.11 | Wobin | I dunno, I had the same amount of information as you did, and it made perfect sense =P |
| 14:45.20 | mckenziemc | assumptions can do that |
| 14:45.31 | mckenziemc | prior knowledge can do that |
| 14:45.45 | mckenziemc | thinking of a problem from an arbitary, different starting point can do that |
| 14:46.13 | Fisker | had his function worked 100% perfectly from start it wouldn't be nessecary |
| 14:46.22 | Wobin | so it's not "information you were expected to have and didn't" but more "a process that you didn't comprehend to understand" |
| 14:46.25 | mckenziemc | it should've been obvious that there'd be issues with a hardcoded list |
| 14:46.25 | Fisker | But it's great to have |
| 14:46.33 | mckenziemc | no Wobin, not quite |
| 14:46.50 | Fisker | Hardcoded = one that can't be changed |
| 14:47.01 | Fisker | cached = one that can be changed, but is only updated on certain conditions |
| 14:47.12 | mckenziemc | cached where |
| 14:47.18 | mckenziemc | you're still being vague, apparently |
| 14:47.25 | Wobin | WHAT DOES IT MATTER? |
| 14:47.29 | Wobin | WHO CARES? |
| 14:47.40 | Wobin | WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? |
| 14:47.44 | Fisker | It's on line 39 of copyprotection.cpp mckenziemc :) |
| 14:47.51 | bluspacecow | i'm going to do it Fisker! |
| 14:47.51 | Wobin | Why are you STILL ARGUING ABOUT IT? |
| 14:47.52 | bluspacecow | imma race change my gnome warlock to worgen |
| 14:47.53 | mckenziemc | Fisker: what is |
| 14:48.01 | Fisker | whatever you were talking about |
| 14:48.02 | mckenziemc | Wobin: why are you still arguing about it |
| 14:48.05 | Fisker | sweet bluspacecow |
| 14:48.07 | Wobin | no, YOU ARE |
| 14:48.16 | mckenziemc | takes two to tango |
| 14:48.20 | Wobin | I understood the situation ages ago |
| 14:48.23 | Wobin | but YOU STILL GO ON |
| 14:48.25 | mckenziemc | by chance |
| 14:48.35 | Wobin | no, in this cas |
| 14:48.36 | Wobin | e |
| 14:48.40 | mckenziemc | because your "explanation" didn't explain things sufficiently |
| 14:48.42 | Wobin | it's a very lonely tango by yourself =P |
| 14:48.54 | Wobin | Everyone else in here understood it =P |
| 14:48.56 | Wobin | just not -you- |
| 14:49.08 | mckenziemc | chance happens |
| 14:49.11 | mckenziemc | assumptions happen |
| 14:49.15 | Wobin | just not -you- |
| 14:49.16 | mckenziemc | that proves nothing |
| 14:49.31 | Wobin | who is trying to -prove- anything? |
| 14:49.39 | mckenziemc | you are |
| 14:49.50 | mckenziemc | you're trying to prove there was sufficient, explicit information |
| 14:49.59 | Wobin | If you want the precise details down to the code, GO ASK GARRY AND STOP ARGUING ON A CHAT CHANNEL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT |
| 14:50.02 | mckenziemc | there was not, hence why i asked |
| 14:50.07 | mckenziemc | i don't |
| 14:50.08 | Wobin | Go ask Garry |
| 14:50.13 | Wobin | and stfu |
| 14:50.17 | mckenziemc | i asked for clarification |
| 14:50.21 | Wobin | Go ask Garry |
| 14:50.21 | mckenziemc | and you said it was obvious |
| 14:50.30 | Kalroth | lol |
| 14:50.32 | Wobin | It was obvious to the rest of us =P |
| 14:50.32 | Fisker | http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1078239-Pirate-catching-catches-me.-I-did-not-pirate. |
| 14:50.38 | Fisker | if you wanted a source you could just have asked |
| 14:50.44 | mckenziemc | Wobin: irrelevant |
| 14:50.47 | Wobin | Go ask Garry |
| 14:50.53 | mckenziemc | i don't need to |
| 14:50.59 | Wobin | Just because you can't understand simple processes |
| 14:51.05 | Wobin | It's not our fault =P |
| 14:51.11 | Wobin | So go ask Garry =P |
| 14:51.14 | mckenziemc | that's not what happened though |
| 14:51.22 | Wobin | Go ask Garry |
| 14:51.25 | Cairenn | hands Wobin a paper bag |
| 14:51.32 | Wobin | puts it over mckenziemc's head |
| 14:51.36 | mckenziemc | about what happened in this discussion? i doubt he would know |
| 14:51.44 | Cairenn | lol, not the intended usage, but okay |
| 14:52.15 | mckenziemc | it was obvious the world was flat, for a time |
| 14:52.50 | Wobin | http://neilgaiman.bookperk.com/engine/Welcome.aspx?contestid=29933 |
| 14:53.02 | Wobin | that's interesting... you get -flown- to NYC |
| 14:53.46 | Wobin | mckenziemc: It's obvious you just can't let this go =P |
| 14:53.51 | Cairenn | omg, that book was creepy-odd enough as text ... spoken, I can only just imagine! |
| 14:54.00 | Wobin | Cairenn: I know! \o/ |
| 14:54.00 | mckenziemc | not when you try to close it that way, Wobin |
| 14:54.10 | mckenziemc | because your closure is biased; the same can be said of you |
| 14:54.18 | Wobin | although I wonder who's going to be speaking it |
| 14:54.37 | Wobin | oh no. I've been told I'm biased. |
| 14:54.40 | Wobin | is SHAMED |
| 14:54.49 | mckenziemc | no, you haven't |
| 14:54.50 | Wobin | Let it go, mckenziemc =P |
| 14:55.01 | mckenziemc | go ahead |
| 14:55.10 | mckenziemc | close it responsibly and i will |
| 14:55.14 | mckenziemc | be an idiot and i won't |
| 14:55.23 | Cairenn | tell you what, how about I close it |
| 14:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to get it with his preferred text, maybe THAT makes it clear who the unnamed god is! |
| 14:55.30 | mckenziemc | you're criticizing me for asking for clarification |
| 14:55.37 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: ^^ |
| 14:55.56 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: from suggestive tweets about the subject, I don't think it does |
| 14:56.11 | Wobin | I can't name anything specific, but I have the impression he wants to leave it as is |
| 14:56.21 | Lopeppeppy | Bah! :) |
| 14:56.26 | mckenziemc | Cairenn: the ironic thing is i've been ready to stop, till Wobin has to get the last word in, each time |
| 14:56.53 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: he hasn't said a thing about it since I said it was over, now how about you stop too |
| 14:57.08 | Wobin | The wording of that article, however, seems to say that Neil won't be the one reading the main text |
| 14:57.13 | Cairenn | I am the one getting the last word in |
| 14:57.24 | mckenziemc | because it's not a responsible way to end the discussion... |
| 14:57.29 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:57.40 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: do you /want/ me to kick you? |
| 14:57.43 | zenzelezz | mckenziemc: thank you, come again |
| 14:57.53 | Wobin | I do like Neil's speaking voice though |
| 14:58.02 | Wobin | he's a very smooth narrator |
| 14:58.18 | haste | Fisker: pass me the popcorn |
| 14:58.27 | Fisker | i'm not in norway :( |
| 14:58.35 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: have you heard him read The Graveyard Book? |
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| 14:58.41 | Fisker | but i am scared haste |
| 14:58.46 | Fisker | i'm playing Amnesia |
| 14:58.53 | mckenziemc1 | ironic time for a DC : / |
| 14:58.54 | haste | Fisker: I still haven't bought that one :( |
| 14:59.02 | Ackis | Cairenn: kick me please! |
| 14:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | I havent' heard any of his audios, Wobin. I don't see the point in spending all that cash for cds. |
| 14:59.14 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: no no! It's FREE! |
| 14:59.18 | Wobin | lemme get a link |
| 14:59.23 | Fisker | i'd rather not play it haste :( |
| 14:59.25 | Cairenn | Ackis: baby, in your wildest dreams ;) |
| 14:59.29 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:59.31 | haste | Fisker: penumbra was great x3 |
| 14:59.33 | Fisker | i really hate those alone in the dark-esque games |
| 14:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | You show me free nonpirated noms, and I will love you forever. |
| 14:59.50 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: http://www.mousecircus.com/videotour.aspx |
| 15:00.01 | Wobin | It's awesome! |
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| 15:00.07 | Xinhuan | aww cogwheel didn't build my tracks yet |
| 15:00.08 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Wobin, I'll email that to myself for tonight at home. |
| 15:00.13 | Xinhuan | slaps cogwheel away with a large trout |
| 15:00.15 | Fisker | i like the physics though |
| 15:00.31 | Wobin | He basically did a tour, reading one chapter at each stop |
| 15:00.57 | Wobin | and they recorded it and put it up for all |
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| 15:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | Neat. |
| 15:01.58 | Wobin | But I take your point about audiobooks |
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| 15:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | I could almost justify the cassettes, but I haven't had a cassette player in forever. And the CDs are way too expensive, when I know that as physical media they don't quite justify being that costly. |
| 15:03.28 | Wobin | They're incredibly expensive |
| 15:04.58 | mckenziemc1 | but anyway, Cairenn, there are proper, responsible ways to end an argument. Criticizing the other person is not one of them. Kicking is not one of them. Expressing disagreement without going so far as criticizing or mocking the other person is. This is a particular issue that keeps coming up, and it's not going to go away just by being ignored. Nor even by banning me, as these things happen between other people too. |
| 15:05.12 | Ackis | penis |
| 15:05.53 | mitch0 | hippo |
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| 15:06.06 | Kalroth | lol |
| 15:06.08 | krka | Oh Jeffrey |
| 15:06.12 | mitch0 | :) |
| 15:06.22 | *** kick/#wowuidev [mckenziemc1!~Karen@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (talk to me in a week, I'll consider lifting it then) |
| 15:06.53 | krka | You can't say 'hippo'. You don't want to come off sounding like some surreal, cupboard-loitering lunatic. |
| 15:07.15 | mitch0 | I'll have to re-watch the series now ;) |
| 15:07.16 | Kalroth | arguing on the internet is srs bsns |
| 15:07.33 | Lopeppeppy | Giraffe then. |
| 15:07.52 | krka | i've only watched it 4-5 times i think, need to watch it again soon |
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| 15:08.10 | Cairenn | and on that note, sleep! the rest of you, behave while I'm gone so I don't have to go all redhead your asses too |
| 15:08.19 | krka | sounds like fun |
| 15:08.36 | krka | but on that note, time to get home from work |
| 15:08.54 | Ackis | GINGER RAGE |
| 15:09.34 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: Bah. I lent my copy of American Gods to my father, and I haven't gotten it back =( |
| 15:09.36 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. Backup ginger right here taking notes, you evil creatures. |
| 15:09.46 | cogwheel | What do ya go for? Go see a show for? Tell the truth you go to see those beautiful dames! |
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| 15:11.28 | Xinhuan | cogwheel! |
| 15:11.41 | cogwheel | oh yeah... i'll get right on that :P |
| 15:11.53 | Xinhuan | i went back to mining for now lol |
| 15:12.49 | TC-Laptop | i hate texting so much |
| 15:13.37 | Kraps|w | time for some envelope-opening, arm-breaking fun! |
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| 15:19.55 | Kraps|w | lets see how chain-feeding the opener works |
| 15:21.31 | Kraps|w | man i suck at using this thing |
| 15:23.22 | Fisker | i don't like living Kraps|w :( |
| 15:23.25 | Fisker | i r scared |
| 15:23.56 | Kraps|w | use your guy-killing skills on yourself then |
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| 15:24.23 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/propro3.jpg |
| 15:26.33 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/04/opera-turbo-uses-webp-to-compress.html |
| 15:30.04 | bluspacecow | @cog do you like how they'res a whole new are of the map on your minecraft server cause i got lost ? |
| 15:30.11 | bluspacecow | i call it "blu got ass faced lost land" |
| 15:30.12 | alestane | Yeah, I've never found that the "I'm the one whose refusal to stop arguing is perfectly reasonable" argument gets very far. |
| 15:30.59 | cogwheel | bluspacecow: you've got nothing on jnwhiteh and yssaril |
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| 15:32.09 | airtonix | hello |
| 15:32.51 | airtonix | Fisker: today was a good day. i haven't heard any yapping dogs yet. |
| 15:33.15 | cogwheel | bluspacecow: the region files on the current map go from ~-2 to +2 in each direction. They went on expiditions that brought it up to the 20s in some directions |
| 15:33.35 | bluspacecow | ...... |
| 15:33.47 | bluspacecow | dear lord ... and you purged all that data ? |
| 15:33.49 | cogwheel | i removed those parts of the world though since they made the map gigantic with no benefit |
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| 15:34.10 | Xinhuan | does the same exact world regenerate back on re-exploration? |
| 15:34.14 | airtonix | i wish to partake in the halucination. |
| 15:35.03 | Ackis | http://community.livejournal.com/baaaaabyanimals/4097518.html week old kittens |
| 15:35.32 | Fisker | weird |
| 15:35.49 | Fisker | one of my characters had a ticket + all of its mails removed :o |
| 15:36.18 | cogwheel | Xinhuan: world generation is entirely deterministic otherwise it wouldn't be able to work the way it does |
| 15:36.24 | cogwheel | regardless of deleting areas |
| 15:36.46 | cogwheel | that's what the seed value is for in single player |
| 15:37.12 | Fisker | oh i thought that was for sex cogwheel :( |
| 15:37.49 | mikma | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/wiin1.jpg |
| 15:37.53 | Fisker | does it use seeds in multiplayer cogwheel ? |
| 15:38.13 | cogwheel | yes, but it's not as accessible as the one in SP |
| 15:42.39 | Wobin | mikma: I suspect that joke's been recycled =P |
| 15:43.27 | mikma | wobin: possible, but it's still bieber |
| 15:46.12 | Wobin | bah, that neil gaiman audiobook contest is america only =P |
| 15:46.14 | cogwheel | bluspacecow: http://cogwheel.info/minecraft/cogwheel-map-2011-03-30-00h01.png |
| 15:46.56 | mikma | cogwheel: i blame jnwhiteh and yssaril. |
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| 15:47.08 | Xinhuan | i think adys' server only generates/renders interesting parts of the map |
| 15:47.10 | Wobin | hahaha |
| 15:47.22 | Adys | no |
| 15:47.23 | cogwheel | that was the map from before deleting those parts :P |
| 15:47.34 | Adys | it renders 100 chunks around the spawn point |
| 15:48.19 | bluspacecow | wtf |
| 15:48.23 | bluspacecow | is that a pirate ship ? |
| 15:48.41 | cogwheel | on the current one? |
| 15:48.55 | bluspacecow | yeah |
| 15:49.00 | cogwheel | yep |
| 15:49.59 | Adys | Xinhuan: what we do is limit the map rendering to x blocks around the spawn point (we sometimes increase it) |
| 15:50.03 | Adys | and we place new projects on that map |
| 15:50.56 | Kraps|w | "due to recent natural disasters in new zealand and austrailia the cost of raw sheepskins has increased rapidly." |
| 15:51.58 | bluspacecow | odd |
| 15:52.12 | bluspacecow | my new place shows up on the flat map but not the isometric |
| 15:52.25 | cogwheel | probably behind a hill |
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| 16:01.16 | Xinhuan | your new base is really in the middle of nowhere hehe |
| 16:04.24 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 16:06.07 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 16:06.08 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/search?q=areporter |
| 16:06.12 | Fisker | how many of those are mine? |
| 16:06.23 | bluspacecow | all of them ! |
| 16:06.38 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:06.40 | Fisker | true! |
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| 16:13.38 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 16:13.39 | Fisker | you here? |
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| 16:14.41 | Kraps|w | why are you afraid to live Fisker |
| 16:16.20 | Fisker | because amnesia is a fucked up game |
| 16:16.45 | Kraps|w | haha you just got it? |
| 16:16.54 | Fisker | nah |
| 16:17.01 | Fisker | i don't know if i just got it if i could |
| 16:17.09 | Fisker | but wasn't it in one of those humble bundles? |
| 16:17.28 | Fisker | either way i have a few games on Steam so not all of them i have time to play |
| 16:17.38 | Fisker | especially not creepy games like Amnesia :( |
| 16:17.56 | Kraps|w | you english is breaking down Fisker |
| 16:18.19 | Fisker | inorite? |
| 16:18.54 | Fisker | it was actually pretty exhausting to play :( |
| 16:19.02 | Fisker | so i have a bad headache now |
| 16:26.31 | Kraps|w | pizza! |
| 16:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | Giraffe. |
| 16:30.34 | Fisker | i'm sick Lopeppeppy |
| 16:30.44 | Lopeppeppy | Put on some socks, dear. |
| 16:30.49 | Ackis | Fisker: suffer in silence please |
| 16:31.17 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 16:33.23 | Kraps|w | Lopeppeppy: the giraffe is kosher btw |
| 16:34.39 | Kraps|w | but its not ritually slaughtered due to tradition and/or price |
| 16:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, today is an extension of yesterday's no-death policy. The giraffe is perfectly kosher because it's alive. |
| 16:35.49 | Fisker | see Kraps|w |
| 16:35.54 | Fisker | i can't even die, even if i wanted to |
| 16:36.23 | Kraps|w | haha Lopeppeppy, sorry! |
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| 16:50.58 | Ackis | http://www.pawnation.com/2011/04/13/an-air-force-captain-and-her-dog-reunite/ |
| 16:57.34 | TC-Laptop | Fisker: go go darkspore |
| 16:57.58 | Kraps|w | High Priest Egan of The First Church of Satan in Salem, Mass., celebrates Harry's contribution, saying, "Harry is an absolute godsend . . . we've had more applicants than we can handle lately." |
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| 17:02.40 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2254-Ask-the-Devs-Answers-5-Achievements |
| 17:07.00 | TC-Laptop | uh Kraps, doesnt a giraffe have split hoves? |
| 17:07.20 | alestane | I think they're perissodactyls. |
| 17:08.03 | Lopeppeppy | It does, therefore it's kosher. |
| 17:08.22 | Ackis | I didn't like answers for the achievements karl_w_w |
| 17:08.24 | Ackis | they made me sad |
| 17:08.35 | Lopeppeppy | http://ohr.edu/yhiy/article.php/3184 ? |
| 17:08.44 | Kraps|w | TC-Laptop: what Lopeppeppy said |
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| 17:09.48 | karl_w_w | yeah Ackis |
| 17:09.57 | karl_w_w | pretty much all of it is old news |
| 17:10.34 | karl_w_w | "We added the Keymaster achievement and then almost immediately decided to deemphasize the existence of keys in the game, and thus removed the achievement. Unfortunately it probably isn't even possible to track who had the older keys now." is the only thing they hadnt mentioned before, but we all pretty much know that by now |
| 17:10.54 | airtonix | Kraps|w: all of them effing hipsters thinking they can magik |
| 17:10.55 | karl_w_w | funny how they still havent managed to admit they fucked up yet |
| 17:11.25 | Ackis | they fucked up? |
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| 17:11.33 | karl_w_w | by removing the achieve |
| 17:11.42 | Ackis | ah |
| 17:11.46 | Kraps|w | airtonix: thats an Onion article RE harry potter |
| 17:11.52 | airtonix | i know |
| 17:11.57 | airtonix | stupid hipsters |
| 17:12.53 | Kraps|w | are hipsters even real? |
| 17:13.07 | airtonix | unfortunately |
| 17:15.21 | Nechckn | They congregate, around here, at night Kraps - so maybe that is why you have missed them. |
| 17:15.51 | Nechckn | Sort of like rats... actually, exactly like them. |
| 17:16.12 | Kraps|w | heh |
| 17:23.12 | mikma | adys: ping |
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| 17:24.23 | TC-Laptop | well, at least i got all of the borderlands DLC's at a discount |
| 17:24.44 | TC-Laptop | i wish they have games there that i dont own and want |
| 17:26.18 | TC-Laptop | Ackis: now would be the time to buy |
| 17:26.42 | Adys | mikma: yea? |
| 17:27.35 | Fisker | why TC-Laptop ? |
| 17:28.33 | Fisker | 3 of the questions were so similar they could easily have been considered the same question :( |
| 17:28.42 | TC-Laptop | Fisker: why what? |
| 17:28.48 | Fisker | darkspore |
| 17:28.55 | TC-Laptop | why not? |
| 17:28.58 | TC-Laptop | beta is back on |
| 17:29.31 | Adys | mikma ? |
| 17:30.27 | Fisker | i don't have the greatest of time and such currently TC-Laptop :< |
| 17:30.56 | Fisker | great |
| 17:30.59 | TC-Laptop | Fisker: you were playing games earlier today, i know....i saw you |
| 17:31.01 | Fisker | i don't recall my password :( |
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| 17:32.46 | Fisker | Amnesia Dark Descent really does what it says on the tin |
| 17:34.25 | airtonix | umadbro |
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| 17:37.44 | alestane | http://satwcomic.com/anything-but-that, Fisker. |
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| 17:38.32 | Fisker | hahahaha TC-Laptop |
| 17:38.35 | Fisker | that's kinda stupid |
| 17:38.51 | Fisker | puts on his lulz face |
| 17:39.14 | Fisker | they finally went ahead and made the menu more tolerable after people pointing out it was 100% console stupid |
| 17:39.30 | Fisker | but instead of giving us the ability to just scroll through they simply reduced the navigation delay |
| 17:39.31 | Fisker | derp |
| 17:43.14 | Ackis | thanks TC-Laptop |
| 17:43.14 | purl | pas de quoi, Ackis |
| 17:43.51 | Ackis | what? |
| 17:47.23 | mikma | adys: can you make the track look like "P", meaning a loop at the end |
| 17:47.30 | Adys | yeah |
| 17:47.37 | Adys | thats what i do on my stations |
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| 18:08.04 | splic | Hey, is there an addon like "Trade Spam FTW" but more configurable? |
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| 18:14.04 | Fisker | kd3|phone my kd3|phone |
| 18:15.11 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 18:15.18 | Fisker | destroy him Ackis |
| 18:15.30 | Fisker | i want my 5 euros worth of destruction |
| 18:15.34 | kd3|phone | Hm? |
| 18:16.09 | Fisker | is there anyway to fix the ptr client or do you have to start over? |
| 18:17.46 | foxlit | what makes you think the ptr exists? |
| 18:18.10 | Ackis | Fisker is blowing me kisses in PM's |
| 18:28.08 | Fisker | i'm farting |
| 18:28.35 | Lopeppeppy | Take your socks off, Fisker. |
| 18:29.01 | bluspacecow | whys he need to take his socks off when he farts ? |
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| 18:32.53 | Lopeppeppy | Obviously he's too sick to need the socks anymore. |
| 18:34.16 | foxlit | Oh, hm, new Children's week this year |
| 18:34.35 | Lopeppeppy | can we feed them to the volcanos yet? |
| 18:34.37 | alestane | Not surprising, they rearranged stuff. |
| 18:34.52 | alestane | Not much good to take them to visit the Dam any more. |
| 18:34.55 | foxlit | [I'm guessing that there is, since Azeroth went boom] |
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| 18:38.28 | alestane | Peppy: http://www.pvponline.com/1998/05/10/sun-may-10/ |
| 18:39.57 | Lopeppeppy | Alestane, do I read PvP? Nope. |
| 18:41.19 | Lopeppeppy | I am I confused? I don't have enough spoons to figure it out. |
| 18:41.26 | alestane | I don't know. |
| 18:41.27 | Fisker | how many spots do they have for blizzcon? |
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| 18:42.11 | alestane | YOu probably won't miss much if you skip it, I only posted that strip because it was about feeding children to things. |
| 18:42.17 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: Fisker is being mean to me now that I can't blackmail him :( |
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| 18:44.23 | Lopeppeppy | So chase him around the schoolyard and put bubblegum in his hair. |
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| 18:44.39 | Ackis | that means I like him then |
| 18:47.51 | Fisker | sweet |
| 18:47.52 | Fisker | anyone |
| 18:47.54 | SinusPi | Question, perhaps someone did that... Is it possible to automatically cancel a running series of tradeskill actions? Start a "create all" and have an addon automatically do StopTradeskillRepeat(), or is it protted? |
| 18:47.55 | Fisker | anyone? |
| 18:47.58 | Fisker | i mean anyway |
| 18:48.08 | Fisker | How many tickets do they have for blizzcon normally? |
| 18:48.30 | Lopeppeppy | Um... 5K, fisker? Check the website, the press coverage should tell you that. |
| 18:48.32 | Ackis | 15k |
| 18:48.34 | Ackis | 25k |
| 18:48.36 | Ackis | 50k |
| 18:49.18 | Lopeppeppy | Make sure you're looking at physical attendees, not the total that includes the ones who purchase online "attendance" packages. |
| 18:49.28 | Fisker | i thought they didn't announce that until later |
| 18:49.58 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I said "last year's news coverage", Fisker. *poke* |
| 18:50.15 | Ackis | herpaderp |
| 18:51.05 | Fisker | i'm sick Lopeppeppy |
| 18:51.08 | Fisker | don't be a jerk :( |
| 18:56.50 | Kraps|w | get owned, coworker |
| 18:59.23 | Mikk | SinusPi: might be possible to cancel it, not tested |
| 18:59.34 | Mikk | easily tested with /in 1 /run .... |
| 18:59.52 | Adys | Fisker: last year's was 38000 guests (around 35000 tickets) |
| 19:02.05 | Fisker | :O |
| 19:04.01 | Jamash | was it greater than 9*10^3? |
| 19:05.54 | Kraps|w | definitely over nine thousand |
| 19:06.40 | SinusPi | >9E3 |
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| 19:20.00 | Kraps|w | hoho, totalbiscuit calls it call to alms, because its a tribute to tanks |
| 19:21.32 | Fisker | call to arms is stupid |
| 19:21.33 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 19:23.39 | farmbuyer | it's going to be Call to Tanks. maybe, maybe Call to Healers. I like how blizz says "which of the three roles is currently underrepresented" with a straight face tho. |
| 19:25.06 | Kraps|w | because they have to |
| 19:25.27 | farmbuyer | oh I know, it's just amusing |
| 19:26.09 | farmbuyer | they can only go so far before they just label it "Mercenary Tank Service", lol |
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| 19:26.59 | Fisker | atleast, around 3-6 months from now, we'll all be getting the satchels and they'll have fixed the problem, rather than fixed the symptom |
| 19:29.55 | Kraps|w | Fisker: |
| 19:30.04 | Kraps|w | HOW do you fix it? |
| 19:30.50 | bluspacecow | @fisker do I want to preload portal 2 ? |
| 19:30.54 | bluspacecow | or get a boxed copy ? |
| 19:31.29 | TC-Laptop | preload |
| 19:31.34 | TC-Laptop | steam ftw |
| 19:32.02 | TC-Laptop | so i found out that if you use win 7 with a solid background you could have 30 seconds of lag when logging onto a domain |
| 19:32.27 | TC-Laptop | wtf microsoft, wtf |
| 19:35.37 | Fisker | preload indeed bluspacecow |
| 19:35.37 | kd3|phone | The help? |
| 19:35.45 | kd3|phone | Hell* |
| 19:35.53 | Fisker | sounds like a lie TC-Laptop |
| 19:36.05 | Fisker | though i wish there were better login diagnostics :( |
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| 19:38.12 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm using windows 98 instead of windows 7 because 98 is a bigger number than 7 |
| 19:38.19 | airtonix | so obviously better |
| 19:38.53 | Fisker | That's what i thought when they released the FX5000 series airtonix |
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| 19:39.16 | Fisker | Also Windows ME is letters which are better than numbers |
| 19:39.16 | TC-Work | Fisker: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977346 |
| 19:39.22 | airtonix | what did your grandparents think about that ? |
| 19:39.38 | airtonix | :> |
| 19:40.14 | Fisker | omg TC-Laptop :o |
| 19:41.38 | airtonix | i lost all my winamp2 skins |
| 19:41.40 | airtonix | :< |
| 19:42.15 | Fisker | winamp kinda sucks |
| 19:42.40 | airtonix | why |
| 19:43.05 | Kraps|w | because pandora |
| 19:43.12 | airtonix | lawl? |
| 19:43.27 | TC-Laptop | i wish pandora worked better on my phone |
| 19:49.32 | Fisker | i wish people weren't jerks |
| 19:51.59 | Ackis | Fisker: like you? |
| 19:52.54 | Fisker | yeah exactly |
| 19:54.37 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5TRL9zVMqk |
| 19:54.39 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 19:55.58 | Fisker | what shitty movie/show is that bluspacecow ? |
| 19:56.11 | bluspacecow | Cougar Town |
| 19:58.02 | Fisker | sounds like a jerk show bluspacecow |
| 20:00.07 | bluspacecow | should be right up your alley then. |
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| 20:03.41 | Ackis | anyone going to get snowed on tonight? |
| 20:03.52 | alestane | Kind of hoping not. |
| 20:04.09 | Ackis | I should be |
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| 20:04.32 | alestane | Yes, but aren't you in Edmonton or Calgary or somewhere like that? |
| 20:04.48 | Ackis | edmonton :P |
| 20:04.57 | alestane | Somewhere in Alberta. |
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| 20:35.17 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: bluspacecow mikma QQ my server's not coming back up. i can't do anything about it for another 4 hours or so... |
| 20:35.54 | cogwheel | nm... it just took a lot longer than i'm used to :P |
| 20:36.04 | mikma | cogwheel: i am off to bed, well, i am in bed |
| 20:36.15 | mikma | cogwheel: also, minecraft.net is down |
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| 20:37.45 | mikma | apparently there was some database stuff going on in the server |
| 20:38.29 | Ackis | asdf |
| 20:38.43 | cogwheel | ghjk |
| 20:38.48 | mikma | qwer |
| 20:38.53 | cogwheel | (he typed from his dvorak keyboard) |
| 20:40.26 | TC-Laptop | cogwheel: does your server still have open slots? |
| 20:41.05 | Ackis | there's always room for one more! muhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaha /chopsoffhead |
| 20:41.07 | cogwheel | in the sense that we've never reached the current arbitrary non-empirically-derived cap of 10 users at once, yes |
| 20:41.32 | TC-Laptop | oh, so there is no actually user limit? |
| 20:41.36 | TC-Laptop | actual* |
| 20:41.43 | cogwheel | it's configurable |
| 20:41.50 | cogwheel | it's my own physical box |
| 20:42.07 | cogwheel | at my house |
| 20:42.09 | TC-Laptop | same one that hosts the space trading one? |
| 20:42.16 | cogwheel | yep |
| 20:42.22 | cogwheel | well, it used to anyway |
| 20:42.38 | Ackis | space trading?!?!?!? |
| 20:42.40 | Ackis | merchant empire? |
| 20:42.42 | cogwheel | i turned it off when everyone else lost interest |
| 20:42.42 | Ackis | trade wars? |
| 20:42.44 | cogwheel | TradeWras |
| 20:42.44 | Ackis | elite? |
| 20:42.49 | bluspacecow | oh right cog |
| 20:42.58 | Ackis | that was an old BBS game I used to play |
| 20:43.00 | bluspacecow | sorry cog was away doing chores |
| 20:43.07 | cogwheel | Ackis: i have a registered version |
| 20:43.12 | bluspacecow | thought you wanted me to log out |
| 20:43.13 | cogwheel | and was running my own server for a while |
| 20:43.17 | Ackis | nice |
| 20:43.29 | Ackis | shit I think it was back in 93 that I played |
| 20:43.33 | Ackis | around there at least |
| 20:43.45 | cogwheel | yeah i started playing ~91 |
| 20:44.32 | cogwheel | i even made a patch for putty to fix ANSI graphic rendering in TradeWars :P |
| 20:44.48 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:44.54 | Ackis | man you're an old nerd! :D |
| 20:45.08 | cogwheel | well that part i did a couple years ago :P |
| 20:45.37 | Ackis | did you ever play VGA Planets? |
| 20:45.42 | bluspacecow | damn cog you forcing me to play wow :D |
| 20:45.51 | cogwheel | bluspacecow: it's back up but minecraft.net isn't |
| 20:45.56 | cogwheel | so not my fault! |
| 20:46.20 | bluspacecow | nah connection lost 503 error :( |
| 20:46.27 | cogwheel | yes |
| 20:46.40 | cogwheel | that's my server getting that error when it tries to talk to minecraft.net |
| 20:47.10 | cogwheel | Ackis: nope |
| 20:47.34 | cogwheel | mikma: tell the mrs it's not my fault! |
| 20:47.35 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:49.43 | mikma | cogwheel: lol wut |
| 20:49.49 | bluspacecow | damn mikma |
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| 20:49.54 | bluspacecow | i was going hire yous |
| 20:49.57 | cogwheel | mikma: she was on when i rebooted my server |
| 20:50.04 | cogwheel | if she can't get back in now it's not my fault :P |
| 20:50.09 | bluspacecow | with my imaginary minecraft gold |
| 20:50.09 | mikma | cogwheel: she was already sharping her stakes |
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| 20:53.04 | Kraps | cant tell if trolling http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2369880706#1 |
| 20:53.41 | karl_w_w | its on blizz forums |
| 20:53.45 | karl_w_w | it's trolling |
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| 20:58.12 | mikma | cogwheel: wtb ruins mod on the server. pst. :P' |
| 20:58.31 | Kraps | what i need is |
| 20:58.38 | Kraps | something |
| 20:58.53 | Fisker | trolls Kraps |
| 20:59.06 | mikma | fisker finger kraps |
| 20:59.10 | Kraps | redundant Fisker |
| 21:00.15 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/WcX2Q |
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| 21:01.47 | Kraps | i think Ferguson is the most underrated late-night host |
| 21:03.19 | TC-Laptop | thats like saying human excrement is the most underrated manure. |
| 21:03.47 | Kraps | why you gotta be such a hater TC-Laptop |
| 21:04.25 | TC-Laptop | because it's fun |
| 21:06.39 | Kraps | this is why we cant have nice things http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/04/priceline-founder-sues-100-companies-including-google-apple-over-patents.ars |
| 21:08.30 | alestane | Excuse me? Is he saying that he holds a patent on the concept of online leaderboards? |
| 21:09.35 | alestane | "Unfortunately, many of these companies have refused to engage in meaningful negotiations." |
| 21:09.57 | alestane | That's because meaningful negotiations were IMPOSSIBLE once he introduced these bullshit claims! |
| 21:10.07 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 21:10.15 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/h6WJQ |
| 21:13.02 | Kraps | "hey guy you own my $50!" "wtf ive never seen you in my life" "lawsuit!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!" |
| 21:14.04 | alestane | Didn't we settle shit like this when that guy claimed to hold a patent on business-to-business use of the internet? |
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| 21:35.32 | Grouch11 | if there is someone who wouldnt mind glancing at this table pasty and tell me why i'm retarded, that'd be appreciated: http://paste.wowace.com/3433/ |
| 21:36.42 | Grouch11 | dont tell me it's because ive used the word 'length' as a key. |
| 21:37.11 | Grouch11 | nope. |
| 21:37.15 | farmbuyer | Grouch11: the '#' operator is only meaningful for array-style tables |
| 21:37.18 | farmbuyer | not hashes |
| 21:37.22 | Grouch11 | ohhhhh |
| 21:37.33 | Grouch11 | so i can just iterate with a counter or count as i add then |
| 21:37.34 | Grouch11 | yes? |
| 21:37.36 | Grouch11 | or is there a better awy |
| 21:37.52 | farmbuyer | either of those methods is pretty much it without getting goofy |
| 21:38.06 | Grouch11 | ive been coding in many other languages lately i cant really keep all these niche semantics in check |
| 21:38.23 | Grouch11 | ty for your help farmbuyer |
| 21:38.23 | farmbuyer | assert(#tempTable.Priest["Inner Focus"] == 2) |
| 21:38.38 | farmbuyer | actually no, it'd be 0 |
| 21:38.42 | Grouch11 | oh, is there a downside to that aproach |
| 21:38.43 | Grouch11 | oh |
| 21:38.44 | farmbuyer | assertion failed, ignore that :-) |
| 21:38.56 | farmbuyer | me reading too quickly |
| 21:39.03 | Grouch11 | ok. well this clears up about the last 9 hours of my life. lol |
| 21:39.03 | Ackis | http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/04/13/rick-rolling-hits-oregon-legislature-goes-viral-stays-square/ |
| 21:39.25 | Grouch11 | the web is too saturated with the associated keywords to do an effective search |
| 21:39.39 | foxlit | # is only defined for arrays |
| 21:40.21 | Grouch11 | thx fox, farm told me that as well. very good information. |
| 21:40.31 | foxlit | I need to scroll down more often :) |
| 21:40.44 | Grouch11 | do you have any effective way aside from those i mentioned to workaroudn? |
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| 21:43.38 | Grouch11 | is there no count++ operation in LUA? must i count = count +1 all thet ime? |
| 21:43.42 | farmbuyer | You can do some cute tricks with proxy tables but it's usually not worth the effort. Small custom insert and delete functions that maintain a counter might be easiest. |
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| 21:44.20 | Grouch11 | yeah, farm.. i decided to do that at this point. its not for anything that is really mandatory for frequent summing. |
| 21:44.22 | farmbuyer | nope, not in base Lua. they wanted to keep it really really tiny |
| 21:44.27 | Grouch11 | heard, thx |
| 21:44.46 | farmbuyer | there are some Lua variants out there with ++ and other stuff added to the parser, but WoW doesn't use them |
| 21:45.42 | Grouch11 | meh, its just convenience really.. its not like youre creating extra variables or anything. |
| 21:46.12 | Grouch11 | i should get a wow ide if there is one. im just writing in plain ol notepad++ |
| 21:46.15 | Arrowmaster | all the modifications to WoWs Lua are custom |
| 21:46.37 | Arrowmaster | queue the sylvanaar self promoting his IDE |
| 21:46.55 | Grouch11 | lol u had to go and mention his name.. he'll be here for sure now |
| 21:47.19 | Grouch11 | i just cant handle any more learning curves. ill stick with hard-nosing it |
| 21:47.41 | Arrowmaster | really though his is about as close to an IDE as youll get |
| 21:48.15 | Arrowmaster | most people just use a text editor like notepad++ |
| 21:48.41 | airtonix | i don't |
| 21:49.06 | Grouch11 | you use etch-e-sketch, right? |
| 21:53.33 | airtonix | no |
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| 22:00.20 | foxlit | "Jersey Shore." |
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| 22:04.19 | Torhal|work | Grouch11: If you want to check out sylvanaar's Lua plugin, get IntelliJ CE 10 - you'll be able to install the plugin from within the IDE. |
| 22:05.47 | Kraps | no foxlit |
| 22:07.04 | foxlit | no is just an upside down yes, Kraps. |
| 22:07.53 | Fisker | are you still there? |
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| 22:17.50 | Kraps | "Vampire Girl vs. Frankenstein Girl" how do movies like this even get starter money? |
| 22:21.00 | alestane | Because schlock never goes out of style. |
| 22:21.10 | alestane | (Largely because it was never IN style) |
| 22:21.36 | alestane | It's like Kraft Macaroni and Cheese. It will never be high art, but there are plenty of people who will gobble it up. |
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| 22:23.04 | kd3 | sigh; 30% done preloading portal |
| 22:23.08 | kd3 | grrs at steam |
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| 22:29.47 | airtonix | Kraps: lloooooolllll sharktopus |
| 22:30.00 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8gRF_m6CSI |
| 22:30.30 | airtonix | or Octoshark... take your fail |
| 22:31.19 | airtonix | Anyway, "evil corp" creates a shark/octopus hybrid (wouldn't you?) and the daughter and some random hero team up to take it down after it goes on a rampage. Which seems to consist of "kill women in bikinis". ... woo! Who needs plot? |
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| 22:55.02 | Dagmar | Astonishingly, some of those movies actually turn out to be pretty good once you take out all the gratuitous boobie scenes. |
| 22:55.12 | Dagmar | Octoshark just isn't one of them. |
| 22:56.49 | Dagmar | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242150/ <-- This one is |
| 22:57.05 | Dagmar | Not even Steven Baldwin could fuck it up |
| 22:57.48 | A-KO | interesting, no IE10 for Vista |
| 22:58.02 | airtonix | no one cards A-KO |
| 22:58.10 | airtonix | or cares |
| 22:58.31 | Dagmar | They don't want it pestering the user every 20 seconds aobut needing admin rights |
| 22:58.31 | airtonix | Dagmar: :< |
| 22:58.46 | Dagmar | airtonix: Have you seen that movie? |
| 22:58.56 | airtonix | Dagmar: Microsoft Exchange... The Movie |
| 22:59.16 | Dagmar | I'm not sure even gratuitous boobie scenes would help that one |
| 22:59.41 | airtonix | have you seen the Total Recall tv series ? |
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| 23:03.04 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: lol |
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| 23:07.43 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: look at the channel topic |
| 23:11.22 | sylvanaar | Grouch11: ill link you the screencast in case you change your mind http://www.screencast.com/t/78ltrNMsC7 ... back to my nap |
| 23:13.19 | foxlit | Portal 2, Fisker. |
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| 23:43.35 | sylvanaar | i tried out a kinect today at best buy - they are really cool |
| 23:44.39 | Dagmar | You don't mind looking like a schizophrenic? |
| 23:44.50 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 23:45.00 | sylvanaar | i liked bowling - that was pretty fun |
| 23:45.23 | Dagmar | Last month I actually saw a kid in the Best Buy that I felt sorry for until I saw he was in front of one of those |
| 23:45.32 | Xyphoid | as opposed to the usual gaming posture of the catatonic ? |
| 23:45.39 | Dagmar | I thought he had Serious Problems. |
| 23:45.48 | Kraps | is magicka good? |
| 23:45.52 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 23:46.13 | sylvanaar | worth every penny |
| 23:46.27 | Dagmar | I think I may have to revise my opinion on perl being a good language. |
| 23:46.35 | Kraps | 8 bucks on steam right now with the dlc |
| 23:47.57 | sylvanaar | great deal |
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| 23:52.07 | Xyphoid | damn you steam, making me buy games i'm not planning on playing for a while |
| 23:52.38 | airtonix | ok, kids, wait 'til you grow up to drink, smoke and access private variables. |
| 23:52.57 | airtonix | sylvanaar: umad? |
| 23:53.59 | airtonix | sylvanaar: i would use kinetic as a compliment security sensor to a networked camera system |
| 23:54.35 | airtonix | so we can then actually have this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk |
