| 00:00.38 | Cide | my code works half the time |
| 00:01.24 | Jamash | take out the if random(2) == 1 part |
| 00:01.58 | Cide | ok no |
| 00:02.04 | Cide | it works the first time after I restart the server |
| 00:02.07 | Cide | but not after that |
| 00:02.24 | Jamash | good times |
| 00:02.44 | Cide | kill me now |
| 00:15.32 | Thunder_Child | promises promises Cide |
| 00:16.07 | kd3 | one of the achievements notch mentioned was "ride a pig off a cliff" |
| 00:16.19 | Jamash | great |
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| 00:18.33 | kd3 | c'mon "Applying non-critical updates." finish the hell up |
| 00:18.46 | Cide1 | why do you even wait for that? :P |
| 00:19.10 | kd3 | just to be sure there aren't any surprises with the interface extracts |
| 00:25.40 | kd3 | ack; fatal condition |
| 00:25.42 | kd3 | grrs |
| 00:25.48 | Cide1 | ah, gotcha |
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| 00:32.18 | tem | hmm |
| 00:32.23 | tem | I'm 8-0 in the new season |
| 00:32.34 | tem | Take 6 weeks off of starcraft |
| 00:32.40 | tem | sudden jump 2 leagues in skill |
| 00:35.13 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 00:35.47 | mckenziemc | i've noticed i tend to get better at things just by taking a break for a while too :O |
| 00:36.08 | mckenziemc | s/tend to/sometimes/ |
| 00:44.47 | Cide1 | hey Shirik|Gh |
| 00:45.40 | Shirik|Gh | hey kd3 |
| 00:45.42 | Shirik|Gh | also hey Cidan |
| 00:45.45 | Shirik|Gh | and Cide1 |
| 00:45.47 | Shirik|Gh | kd3: ping |
| 00:46.07 | Cide1 | Shirik|Gh: [Finkle's Mixer Upper] |
| 00:46.09 | Cide1 | rawr |
| 00:46.14 | Shirik|Gh | except I already haveo ne |
| 00:46.27 | Cide1 | except I have the regular one and now the heroic one too |
| 00:46.37 | Shirik|Gh | except I might have the heroic one too |
| 00:46.41 | Cide1 | BITCH |
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| 00:47.07 | Shirik|Gh | wonders if he should tell Cide1 his english skills are lacking |
| 00:47.13 | Cide1 | YOU SHOULD |
| 00:47.15 | Cide1 | err. |
| 00:47.16 | Cide1 | you should |
| 00:47.25 | kd3 | Shirik|Gh, pong |
| 00:47.30 | Shirik|Gh | there is a key word you missed |
| 00:47.37 | Shirik|Gh | hey kd3 remember how I told you my bank reduced my credit limit |
| 00:47.38 | kd3 | ? |
| 00:47.41 | kd3 | ya |
| 00:47.47 | Shirik|Gh | so they just sent me another 2 letters today |
| 00:47.59 | Cide1 | Shirik|Gh: where? |
| 00:48.01 | Shirik|Gh | the first one says "As a preferred customer we would like to give you this offer" (on my credit card) |
| 00:48.14 | Shirik|Gh | The second one gives me a special rate for any balance transfers I do to that card |
| 00:48.25 | Shirik|Gh | I'm sitting here like "seriously do you want my limit to go up or down pick one" |
| 00:48.35 | Shirik|Gh | s/limit/balance/ |
| 00:48.42 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:48.42 | Shirik|Gh | Cide1: The "might" is an important word |
| 00:48.58 | Cide1 | right |
| 00:49.33 | Shirik|Gh | you should know well enough I don't run heroics |
| 00:49.39 | Shirik|Gh | heroic raids that is |
| 00:49.42 | Cide1 | true |
| 00:49.46 | Cide1 | I should have figured |
| 00:49.47 | Shirik|Gh | well or heroic dungeons for that matter |
| 00:51.03 | kd3 | in other news, wru madoka 11? |
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| 01:01.46 | kd3 | hm, good thing I've got backups |
| 01:01.56 | kd3 | build 13850 just does not want to patch on my system |
| 01:04.30 | Kraps | i have a document with important passwords on my computer, how do i make it secure? |
| 01:04.43 | Shadowed | don't keep a document with your important passwords? :P |
| 01:04.54 | kd3 | delete it, then shred your empty space? |
| 01:05.25 | Kraps | you guys sure know how to be unhelpful |
| 01:05.43 | Shadowed | That is very helpful gien what you asked! |
| 01:05.45 | Jamash | take your HDD out and melt it in a volcano |
| 01:05.53 | Shadowed | volcano is extreme |
| 01:05.55 | Shadowed | throw it in the sea |
| 01:06.03 | Shadowed | Are you storing passwords in a doc cause you're going to forget them Kraps |
| 01:06.11 | Kraps | yes |
| 01:06.19 | Shadowed | You should use something like 1Password then really |
| 01:06.21 | kd3 | volcanos are far away. not sure throwing them in a sea would actually help |
| 01:06.31 | Jamash | Shadowed: the whole HDD or take the platters out and then throw them in the sea? |
| 01:06.33 | Shadowed | throw it off an overpass? |
| 01:06.38 | Shadowed | and run like hell |
| 01:06.51 | Shadowed | I assume you aren't on OSX Kraps |
| 01:06.58 | Kraps | no |
| 01:07.08 | Shadowed | yea, you pretty much need something like 1Password if you want it to be secure then |
| 01:07.10 | kd3 | bitlocker, but I dunno if that does single files |
| 01:09.34 | Kraps | i dont see bitlocker, is it a winpro feature? |
| 01:09.48 | Shadowed | pretty sure bitlocker is full encryption? |
| 01:09.56 | kd3 | ya |
| 01:09.58 | Shadowed | yea it is |
| 01:10.10 | kd3 | I swore win had some kind of per-file encryption, it may not |
| 01:10.17 | kd3 | <3s encfs |
| 01:10.38 | Jamash | it does but per-file encryption is basically worthless |
| 01:10.58 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 01:10.58 | Kraps | Shadowed: is there a free option? |
| 01:11.03 | Shadowed | nope |
| 01:11.14 | Shadowed | You might be able to find a free one, but 1Password is what I use |
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| 01:11.23 | mckenziemc | how does that compare to KeePass |
| 01:11.38 | Thunder_Child | eh, keepass is better |
| 01:11.52 | Shadowed | well for one |
| 01:12.01 | Thunder_Child | i run keepass on my mac just fine |
| 01:12.13 | Thunder_Child | and pc and phone |
| 01:12.15 | Shadowed | it looks like the new one doesn't actually run on OSX |
| 01:12.17 | Shadowed | unless you do Wine |
| 01:12.24 | Thunder_Child | i dont need wine |
| 01:12.26 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 01:12.27 | Shadowed | but |
| 01:12.33 | Shadowed | I got it as part of an OSX bundle so |
| 01:12.35 | Shadowed | I didn't pay $60 |
| 01:13.31 | Thunder_Child | that was it, Mono |
| 01:13.37 | Thunder_Child | that runs keepass rather well |
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| 01:17.52 | Kraps | how do i use keepass |
| 01:19.00 | Thunder_Child | on a mac or in general? |
| 01:19.07 | Kraps | in general |
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| 01:19.10 | Thunder_Child | it's just a secure DB |
| 01:19.17 | Thunder_Child | enter in whatever info you want |
| 01:19.27 | Thunder_Child | though it can to attachments as well |
| 01:19.46 | Thunder_Child | s/to/do/ |
| 01:20.03 | Kraps | so i can attach a file to it and it becomes secure? |
| 01:21.00 | Kraps | or what |
| 01:21.05 | Thunder_Child | more or less |
| 01:21.16 | Kraps | oh i see it |
| 01:21.33 | Thunder_Child | might as well just try it out |
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| 01:45.38 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: does it change the attached file in some way? |
| 01:45.54 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: not that i am aware of |
| 01:47.02 | Kraps | i was able to open ithe file normally, is it working as intended? |
| 01:47.15 | Thunder_Child | it makes a copy |
| 01:47.26 | Thunder_Child | it is not that file encryption |
| 01:47.35 | Thunder_Child | it would be the same as attaching it to an email |
| 01:47.47 | Thunder_Child | that type of* |
| 01:47.52 | Kraps | ah |
| 01:48.41 | Kraps | so i can delete it from my HDD, and only be able to access it from within keepass then? |
| 01:49.26 | Thunder_Child | yes, but it's not really designed for that |
| 01:56.29 | Ingela | anyone have 5min to answer some questions? |
| 01:57.16 | Kraps | ~ask |
| 01:57.16 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 01:57.34 | Kraps | oh you purl |
| 01:57.35 | Ingela | yeah i know i know |
| 01:57.46 | kd3 | against my will? |
| 01:57.49 | Thunder_Child | thats not the normal one Kraps |
| 01:57.52 | kd3 | looks for a gun being held to his head |
| 01:57.56 | Thunder_Child | yes kd3, we know it |
| 01:58.02 | Kraps | ~asktoask |
| 01:58.02 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:58.14 | Ingela | yeah i know, i just wanted to talk to someone in privs |
| 01:58.16 | Ingela | foreveralone :( |
| 01:58.27 | Kraps | u jelly? |
| 01:58.28 | Thunder_Child | you get more people in public |
| 01:58.40 | Ingela | but then everyone needs to see how bad i am |
| 01:58.52 | Ingela | do you wanna laugh at me Thunder_Child, is that what you're saying? |
| 01:59.07 | Thunder_Child | Ingela: i'm not saying that |
| 01:59.12 | Ingela | ok :) |
| 01:59.16 | Thunder_Child | but thats not to say i would not do that |
| 01:59.21 | Ingela | :( |
| 01:59.28 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what version of keepass do you have and whats the difference |
| 01:59.45 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: 2. the other one is just around for legacy reasons reallt |
| 01:59.49 | Thunder_Child | really* |
| 01:59.56 | Kraps | k |
| 02:00.42 | Ingela | ok here it goes since at least someone is here hopefully someone can answer... : if you have any frame, that needs updating. for instance, a statusbar that you use as a reputation bar. Is it generally the way to go, to have an onupdate function "scaning" changes every what 0.2 seconds and then update it according to that? |
| 02:00.56 | Ingela | or is it possible to just have it change when ever the real number change |
| 02:01.24 | kd3 | polling is bad. respond to events |
| 02:02.10 | Ingela | hmm ok |
| 02:02.52 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: if you want to encrypt files more than passwords and whatnot i would suggest http://www.truecrypt.org |
| 02:03.22 | Ingela | so what if there's no "REPUTATION_CHANGED_ACTIVE" kd3? |
| 02:03.35 | kd3 | what are you trying to track, then? |
| 02:03.51 | Ingela | i'm not saying ti doesn't exist, i'm just asking if that doesn't exist |
| 02:03.55 | Ingela | you go by doing onupdate? |
| 02:04.00 | Kraps | why does that site look like crap :( |
| 02:04.33 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: because they spend more time on the software? |
| 02:04.33 | kd3 | only if you absolutely have to. OnUpdates fire every frame draw. if you're doing complex stuff you will slow down your framerate drastically |
| 02:04.49 | Ingela | yeap this is what i'm thinking too |
| 02:05.22 | Kraps | that is an excellent point |
| 02:05.37 | Ingela | it just seems weird becuase the addon itself doesn't take any resources but i kinda have a feeling that the fps got lowered becuase of tons of unneccesary spamming |
| 02:05.45 | Ingela | or i felt at least that all that spamming isn't needed |
| 02:06.38 | Ackis | kd3: tell me more about onepersonparty! :D |
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| 02:06.51 | kd3 | "huh?" is about all I have to go on at present |
| 02:06.58 | Ackis | darn |
| 02:07.00 | DWSR | What's an easy way to compile a python script? |
| 02:07.10 | DWSR | Just install the python runtimes? |
| 02:07.22 | kd3 | yup |
| 02:07.40 | DWSR | I'm trying to compile a MIDI remote script for Ableton Live. |
| 02:07.55 | DWSR | So is there just a --compile or something I can throw at the interpreter to compile all of the .py in a folder? |
| 02:08.32 | kd3 | not afaik; just running the main program should compile everything it brings in |
| 02:08.36 | Kraps | this is hardcore http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=plausible-deniability |
| 02:08.43 | kd3 | "python foo.py" should be enough |
| 02:08.59 | DWSR | Kraps: Not really. |
| 02:09.30 | DWSR | kd3: Thanks. |
| 02:09.36 | Kraps | you never know when an adversary will show up Dagmar |
| 02:09.44 | DWSR | Though, I'm not sure what the main program is |
| 02:10.01 | DWSR | __init__.py sounds like it might be a good place to start though |
| 02:10.29 | Ingela | thanks anyhow kd3 |
| 02:10.33 | kd3 | np |
| 02:11.38 | DWSR | oh fuck. |
| 02:11.50 | DWSR | Python is whitespace strict, isn't it? |
| 02:11.55 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:11.58 | DWSR | Good christ. |
| 02:12.01 | Kraps | i meant DWSR |
| 02:12.25 | DWSR | kd3: Anyway to tell the interpreter to not? |
| 02:13.05 | kd3 | to not write out .pyc/.pyo files? python -B foo.py |
| 02:13.10 | DWSR | no. |
| 02:13.17 | DWSR | To not be strict with whitespacing? |
| 02:13.22 | DWSR | Or is that inherent in the language? |
| 02:13.28 | kd3 | that's part of the language |
| 02:13.34 | DWSR | Gay. |
| 02:13.51 | Ingela | so kd3, that means it's also better to fire stuff on COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED rather than onupdate as well? (just trying to figure out exactly how bad onupdate is) |
| 02:15.16 | kd3 | CLEU. what are you trying to track, specifically? there's likely an event for it |
| 02:15.19 | DWSR | Oh, good fucking christ. |
| 02:15.33 | DWSR | Py3k is incompatible with Py2? |
| 02:15.39 | DWSR | And people bitch about PERL. |
| 02:16.06 | DWSR | I am going to fucking strangle someone. |
| 02:16.07 | kd3 | there's been a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth over the py2/py3 incompatibility |
| 02:16.47 | DWSR | kd3: I'm not really interested in the development of this. I assume that Ableton would have tried to automatically compile the scripts when I ran it, but apparently it won't see the scripts unless they're compiled. |
| 02:16.53 | DWSR | So now I'm fucking around with this. |
| 02:16.55 | Ingela | kd3 the absorbtion amount of pws |
| 02:17.02 | Ingela | and divine aegis |
| 02:17.14 | Ingela | so unit aura changed i guess |
| 02:17.15 | Ingela | hmm |
| 02:17.20 | kd3 | then, yes, you want CLEU. http://www.wowpedia.org/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 02:17.25 | kd3 | it handles absorbs |
| 02:17.55 | DWSR | Yes it does. |
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| 02:18.49 | Ingela | well what i want is to have a text that says how much absorb is left on my current target. i've achived that but i'm doing it all on onupdate, but that just doesn't feel right |
| 02:19.35 | kd3 | there have got to be "absorb tracker"-type mods. you may want to look to see how they do it |
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| 02:19.51 | Ingela | that's what i did, they also did on update |
| 02:21.46 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 02:21.57 | DWSR | Just needed to install a compatible Python version and Ableton does do the rest. |
| 02:21.58 | DWSR | AH.... |
| 02:25.00 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: thanks for that! |
| 02:25.13 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: ^_^ |
| 02:26.14 | Kraps | amazing |
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| 02:36.26 | kd3 | rofl: "Today's Fark-ready headline: "Cops: Woman had 81 pounds of illegal junk in her trunk" [Amusing]" |
| 02:36.52 | DWSR | rofl |
| 02:37.01 | kd3 | http://www.wwl.com/Cops--Woman-had-81-pounds-of-illegal-junk-in-her-t/9574909 |
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| 02:41.31 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TXd0GhSGUs&feature=player_embedded |
| 02:41.43 | Thunder_Child | that will teach you to drive properly when carrying drugs |
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| 02:49.53 | Thunder_Child | "ERROR Outbound_log - System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it 192.168.60.11:3001" anyone know what would cause that. other than a firewall? |
| 02:51.49 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: A firewall. |
| 02:52.11 | Xinhuan | the port isn't open? lol |
| 02:52.39 | Thunder_Child | thats the point Xinhuan, you cant just 'close' a port |
| 02:52.57 | Thunder_Child | thank you DWSR for stating the obvious |
| 02:53.26 | A-KO | Thunder_Child: usaully a firewall, or if you're connecting to a windows machine, potentially a leftover winsock LSP from a previously installed firewall |
| 02:53.34 | A-KO | or the application couldn't open the port for whatever reason |
| 02:53.37 | Kraps | the brits closed a port |
| 02:53.50 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Application might have been blocked from opening the port in the first place. |
| 02:53.58 | Kraps | and they got their asses kicked |
| 02:54.03 | Thunder_Child | this is actaully a connection from the server to itself |
| 02:54.11 | DWSR | Dagmar: You around? |
| 02:54.35 | A-KO | Thunder_Child: does netstat -an show the port open? |
| 02:55.09 | DWSR | A-KO: netstat -an | find "LISTENING" |
| 02:55.10 | DWSR | imo. |
| 02:55.21 | Thunder_Child | na, find "3001 |
| 02:55.22 | Thunder_Child | " |
| 02:55.23 | A-KO | yeah, that works :P |
| 02:55.29 | A-KO | whichever works |
| 02:55.31 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: That too. |
| 02:55.45 | Thunder_Child | it's stuck on SYN_SENT if it shows up there |
| 02:55.49 | DWSR | .60.11 is a little strangle. |
| 02:55.54 | DWSR | strange, rather. |
| 02:55.57 | DWSR | Sorry. |
| 02:56.01 | DWSR | I feel like killing someone atm. |
| 02:56.05 | DWSR | *cough* |
| 02:56.08 | Thunder_Child | *shrug* i didnt make the network |
| 02:56.19 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Might have been a typo, just pointing it out. |
| 02:56.24 | A-KO | Thunder_Child: it's stuck on syn_sent? weird...how is a port that should be listening stuck in that state?.... |
| 02:56.42 | A-KO | if anything, I could see syn received, time_wait, etc. |
| 02:57.15 | Thunder_Child | not only that, the info gets sent out of random ports to it as well |
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| 02:57.27 | A-KO | that's normal |
| 02:57.27 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: What the fuck are you trying to do? |
| 02:57.38 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: i'm not trying to do anything |
| 02:57.38 | A-KO | random ports above like 60,000 is normal or so |
| 02:57.41 | A-KO | I forget the exact # |
| 02:58.05 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Context helps solve problems, imo. |
| 02:58.08 | Thunder_Child | this is two medical piles of garbage trying to talk to one another |
| 02:58.14 | A-KO | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929851/ |
| 02:59.04 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Well now. |
| 02:59.14 | DWSR | Can't you just spend taxpayer money and buy shiney new stuff? :-P |
| 02:59.27 | Thunder_Child | this is shiny new stuuf |
| 02:59.29 | Thunder_Child | stuff* |
| 02:59.41 | DWSR | Not shiney or new enough |
| 02:59.42 | DWSR | imo |
| 02:59.57 | DWSR | /trolling |
| 03:00.28 | Thunder_Child | they said, well we need these two peices of software to talk to each other so lets go find some random company to hack some software together |
| 03:00.45 | Thunder_Child | so now i am stuck working with it |
| 03:00.49 | DWSR | lol |
| 03:00.51 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 03:23.24 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB2BKdgSW4U&feature=channel_video_title |
| 03:26.30 | DWSR | win |
| 03:26.31 | DWSR | sorry. |
| 03:26.33 | DWSR | epic winning. |
| 03:26.36 | DWSR | /charliesheen |
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| 03:28.44 | DWSR | Putting that in my next mix. |
| 03:28.46 | DWSR | that's fucking awesmoe. |
| 03:28.48 | DWSR | awesome* |
| 03:31.01 | Kraps | hes creative but that song is far and away his best |
| 03:31.08 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCgx8zM3woQ&feature=relmfu |
| 03:31.11 | DWSR | haha |
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| 03:36.21 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/qU4Up - nof nof nof |
| 03:37.47 | mikma | [wobin]: http://www.geekologie.com/2011/04/old_lady_severs_fiberoptic_net.php |
| 03:40.01 | DWSR | rofl |
| 03:46.37 | DWSR | http://www.geekologie.com/2011/03/autonomous_quadrocopters_play.php |
| 03:46.38 | DWSR | Holy shit. |
| 03:46.40 | DWSR | That's wicked. |
| 03:49.41 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/FU8aU.jpg |
| 03:49.49 | Ingela | nice kd3 i think this helped a lot... on spell_refresh/add/remove/w/e i run my script that scans for the buffs and get the absorb amount... so now i only do it on those events and when i change target. a lot better than every update :D |
| 03:49.51 | Ingela | thanks a lot |
| 03:49.59 | kd3 | np |
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| 03:52.09 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/hnsxF.jpg |
| 03:53.24 | Ingela | http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn |
| 03:53.29 | Ingela | something for you Kraps maybe |
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| 04:01.54 | kd3 | rofl; /. finally posts about minecraft's official launch date |
| 04:10.29 | airtonix | kd3: how does that make you feel? |
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| 04:31.15 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPYromrN7OI omg awesome |
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| 04:40.09 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_19109_6-things-our-kids-just-plain-wont-get.html |
| 04:41.05 | Cide1 | where is the Shirik|Gh |
| 04:47.58 | Kraps | http://www.atlasshruggedpart1.com/atlas-shrugged-movie-trailer |
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| 05:07.58 | Thunder_Child | "Hey, dipshit. Slow the fuck down or I will dick-whip you in the goddamn eye. I'm eight blocks behind you because you don't know how to fucking drive, Mom." i lol'd |
| 05:08.15 | cog|away | i no rite? |
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| 05:32.58 | Wobin | Shirik|Gh: I didn't know they had one of these... http://photo.stackexchange.com/ |
| 05:41.30 | Shirik|Gh | Cide |
| 05:41.32 | Shirik|Gh | I am always here |
| 05:42.19 | Cide | sure. |
| 05:42.26 | Cide | I solved it so you're late |
| 05:42.30 | Shirik|Gh | :( |
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| 05:42.39 | Shirik|Gh | You probably didn't solve it like my epic problem |
| 05:42.52 | Shirik|Gh | where I used vararg list of pointers-to-members |
| 05:43.00 | Cide | owww |
| 05:43.18 | Shirik|Gh | I was writing these unit tests |
| 05:43.38 | Shirik|Gh | And I have 100% condition/decision coverage, so there's a lot of tests |
| 05:44.21 | Shirik|Gh | The test is "Aircraft is ready for launch, except for the following problems: " and we want to make sure the correct problem is reported |
| 05:44.29 | Shirik|Gh | Each of those problems is a field in a class |
| 05:44.59 | Shirik|Gh | so I make a SET_AIRCRAFT_READY_FOR_LAUNCH(...) and the ... are member pointers to those fields that indicate problems |
| 05:45.03 | Shirik|Gh | so epic |
| 05:45.19 | Cide | so bad |
| 05:45.24 | Shirik|Gh | changed 15 line tests into one line tests |
| 05:46.15 | Cide | how many args does the C++ standard allow? |
| 05:46.21 | Shirik|Gh | no limit |
| 05:46.32 | Cide | does that mean it always works? |
| 05:46.35 | Shirik|Gh | no |
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| 05:46.42 | Shirik|Gh | the manner in which arguments are passed is unspecified |
| 05:46.43 | Cide | so it's compiler-specific? |
| 05:46.51 | Shirik|Gh | for most platforms that means "your available stack space" |
| 05:46.52 | Shirik|Gh | but not always |
| 05:46.59 | Cide | what if that breaks?! |
| 05:47.01 | Shirik|Gh | I've worked on a platform where you're limited by registers |
| 05:47.04 | Shirik|Gh | It's a unit test... |
| 05:47.15 | Shirik|Gh | it's not like it's anything critical |
| 05:47.22 | Cide | phew |
| 05:47.29 | Cide | I was getting scared of flying uav's there for a second |
| 05:47.29 | Shirik|Gh | I would never do that in real code :P |
| 05:47.46 | Cide | uaa*** |
| 05:47.49 | cog|away | Shirik|Gh: what-what? no templates? :P |
| 05:47.52 | Shirik|Gh | no these are just tests to say "Put the aircraft in the 'ready for launch' state with the following problems, then test" |
| 05:48.00 | Shirik|Gh | cog|away: the types don't change :( |
| 05:49.26 | Shirik|Gh | you know I think I just realized a flaw in that macro |
| 05:49.32 | Cide | I knew it |
| 05:49.37 | Shirik|Gh | I mean it works |
| 05:49.41 | Cide | should have unit tested the unit test |
| 05:49.41 | Shirik|Gh | but only by luck |
| 05:49.48 | Shirik|Gh | I terminate the vararg with NULL |
| 05:49.58 | Shirik|Gh | but the first member would be equivalent to NULL |
| 05:50.08 | Shirik|Gh | Fortunately it's never the first member |
| 05:50.11 | Shirik|Gh | But I'll go fix that tomorrow |
| 05:50.28 | Cide | you should |
| 05:52.05 | Shirik|Gh | YUS! |
| 05:52.30 | Shirik|Gh | and now, 6 hours after I left work, I finally got the "build succeeded" message :P |
| 05:52.34 | Shirik|Gh | so now I can go to sleep in peace |
| 05:52.37 | Cide | lol |
| 05:52.40 | Cide | full rebuild? |
| 05:52.43 | Shirik|Gh | but not yet because american dad is on |
| 05:52.57 | Shirik|Gh | No, incremental. But it runs a very large suite of tests too. |
| 05:53.09 | Cide | phew |
| 05:53.32 | Cide | how long is a full rebuild then? |
| 05:54.02 | Shirik|Gh | I think like 12 hours or so. I don't do it :P |
| 05:54.12 | Shirik|Gh | Maybe not that long |
| 05:54.12 | Cide | well you must |
| 05:54.14 | Cide | for science |
| 05:54.14 | Shirik|Gh | probably like 10 |
| 05:54.18 | Shirik|Gh | It runs every night automatically |
| 05:54.23 | Cide | and as I say "for science" |
| 05:54.28 | Cide | I say it with the voice of maloriak |
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| 05:54.51 | Shirik|Gh | I'll see the rebuild results tomorrow morning but it's very rarely any different |
| 05:55.17 | Shirik|Gh | in fact it fixes problems more than it breaks things because VS is really bad at managing dependencies :P |
| 05:55.51 | Cide | does it compile with gcc? |
| 05:55.58 | Cide | as in |
| 05:56.03 | Cide | does the code compile on gcc |
| 05:56.12 | Shirik|Gh | some parts do compile with gcc actually |
| 05:56.22 | Shirik|Gh | I doubt the others would though |
| 05:57.06 | Cide | weak |
| 05:57.17 | Cide | what |
| 05:57.28 | Shirik|Gh | Cide: When you require windows.h it breaks most other compilers :P |
| 05:57.45 | Shirik|Gh | cog|away: Pregunta; how much do you know about move semantics? |
| 05:57.55 | Cide | they're doing live sc2 games in the house of culture in stockholm |
| 05:58.05 | Cide | how did I miss this |
| 05:58.14 | cog|away | Shirik|Gh: been a while since i C++ed |
| 05:58.24 | Cide | oh I read about that |
| 05:58.27 | Cide | it was so fucking confusing |
| 05:58.44 | Shirik|Gh | Just wondering if there was some way to do like `Foo foo = myOldFoo` without using std::move |
| 05:58.45 | cog|away | but i read several different articles about them trying to wrap my head around them >< |
| 05:58.47 | Shirik|Gh | std::move is just so ugly |
| 05:59.26 | Cide | so |
| 05:59.27 | Cide | http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp |
| 05:59.31 | Cide | "Free Java Download" |
| 05:59.35 | Cide | that just screams spyware to me |
| 05:59.55 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 06:00.02 | Cide | I know it isn't but I think the same thing every time I see that page |
| 06:00.25 | Shirik|Gh | you think java isn't spyware? |
| 06:00.38 | Cide | fair enough |
| 06:00.38 | cogwheel | the text underneath really does it... |
| 06:01.35 | cogwheel | the button is so 2001 |
| 06:02.36 | Shirik|Gh | oh cogwheel |
| 06:02.42 | Shirik|Gh | you heard they approved C++0x? |
| 06:02.45 | Shirik|Gh | Now to be named C++11 |
| 06:02.48 | cogwheel | yep |
| 06:02.59 | Shirik|Gh | well technically it's not approved it's just approved for international voting |
| 06:03.04 | Shirik|Gh | but that's essentially approved |
| 06:03.24 | cogwheel | just needs one last proof-read and a bunch of people to say yes |
| 06:06.50 | Shirik|Gh | btw, Cide, you need to start reading up on C++11 |
| 06:08.22 | Cide | why |
| 06:08.27 | cogwheel | it's now in F DIS status >< |
| 06:08.37 | Cide | well yes, since I'm studying CS |
| 06:08.40 | Cide | and need to know C++ |
| 06:08.51 | Cide | but I should probably learn C++ before I learn C++11 I figure |
| 06:09.38 | Shirik|Gh | Guess what C++ has |
| 06:09.40 | Shirik|Gh | CLOSURES |
| 06:09.41 | Shirik|Gh | RAWR |
| 06:09.50 | Cide | yay |
| 06:10.07 | Shirik|Gh | however I think the most important feature to me is the move semantics |
| 06:10.20 | Cide | the most confusing part too |
| 06:10.24 | Shirik|Gh | we do a ton of copying in the aircraft right now and I've already talked to some of the framework guys about using it |
| 06:10.29 | Shirik|Gh | would save us so much CPU time |
| 06:10.44 | Cide | but you have the rest of c++ figured out so it's probably easier to wrap the head around it for you :P |
| 06:10.48 | cogwheel | use D imo |
| 06:10.57 | Cide | NOT FDA APPROVED GOD |
| 06:10.59 | Cide | or something |
| 06:11.07 | Cide | not fda, whatever it's called |
| 06:11.11 | cogwheel | aa |
| 06:11.11 | Shirik|Gh | ^ |
| 06:11.11 | Cide | faa |
| 06:11.12 | cogwheel | faa |
| 06:11.35 | Cide | probably not fda approved either huh |
| 06:11.36 | cogwheel | airplanes no tasty |
| 06:11.52 | cogwheel | probably carcinogenic at the very least ;) |
| 06:12.22 | Shirik|Gh | I doubt metal is carcinogenic |
| 06:12.27 | Shirik|Gh | maybe the fuel |
| 06:12.41 | Cide | maybe the death ray generator |
| 06:13.10 | Shirik|Gh | omg we need to make one of those |
| 06:13.18 | Shirik|Gh | We can hire you on as the engineer for that |
| 06:13.23 | Cide | oh cool |
| 06:13.24 | cogwheel | pcbs |
| 06:13.27 | Shirik|Gh | but you need to become a US citizen first |
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| 06:13.33 | Cide | will you adopt me? |
| 06:13.35 | cogwheel | seating |
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| 06:13.52 | cogwheel | toilet fluid... |
| 06:14.00 | amro | Shirik|Gh: you'd think now python might get closures too |
| 06:14.11 | Cide | quit your bitchin' imo |
| 06:14.20 | cogwheel | meow |
| 06:14.26 | Cide | but it is a bit weird given how many other language features it has |
| 06:14.34 | amro | who said I was bitching? |
| 06:14.38 | Cide | I DID |
| 06:14.39 | amro | I haven't even used python in a long time now |
| 06:14.43 | Shirik|Gh | What confuses me is how C++ is supposed to implement closures |
| 06:14.58 | Shirik|Gh | It seems like it would be really complicated to do in a native language |
| 06:15.10 | Shirik|Gh | but surely someone has figured it out |
| 06:15.16 | cogwheel | GCs help |
| 06:15.21 | Cide | so |
| 06:15.27 | Cide | if C++ is approved by the FAA |
| 06:15.35 | Shirik|Gh | GCs don't help in areas that GCs aren't allowed :P |
| 06:15.35 | Cide | are you allowed to use C++11 features right off the bat? |
| 06:15.39 | cogwheel | yep |
| 06:16.00 | cogwheel | (@shirik) |
| 06:16.04 | Shirik|Gh | Cide: We're actually restricted to a subset of C++, but basically it's the compilers that get approved. |
| 06:16.13 | Shirik|Gh | So as long as the compiler is approved |
| 06:16.29 | Shirik|Gh | Some of the features are already supported by approved compilers (including move semantics) |
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| 06:17.10 | Cide | ah, cool |
| 06:17.14 | Cide | gotta sleep, later |
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| 06:17.30 | zenzio | <Shirik|Gh> It seems like it would be really complicated to do in a native language <-- I don't think C++'s development has ever been focused on making it easy on compiler implementers |
| 06:18.08 | Shirik|Gh | Actually much of the language is quite straightforward to implement |
| 06:18.21 | zenzio | the C part? |
| 06:18.27 | Shirik|Gh | And the C++ part |
| 06:18.34 | Shirik|Gh | the virtual table is a pretty straightforward concept |
| 06:18.48 | cogwheel | parser... |
| 06:18.57 | Shirik|Gh | ok the parser isn't as fun |
| 06:19.51 | Shirik|Gh | But once it's been parsed I'm more concerned about how to actually put that into native code |
| 06:20.02 | Shirik|Gh | for closures I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to do that |
| 06:20.22 | cogwheel | "fat pointers" |
| 06:20.36 | cogwheel | function pointer and a pointer to an extra data structure |
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| 06:21.02 | Shirik|Gh | I guess you are forced to maintain type safety |
| 06:21.14 | Shirik|Gh | and you can't even store them out of scope |
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| 06:24.14 | Shirik|Gh | oh btw cogwheel, there's a problem with that |
| 06:24.42 | Shirik|Gh | consider references to other variables |
| 06:24.57 | Shirik|Gh | e.g., the variable is changed outside of the function, it should also be updated in the closure |
| 06:31.34 | amro | Shirik|Gh: you can't just throw it on the heap? |
| 06:31.49 | Shirik|Gh | It would not be in the same memory location |
| 06:32.26 | Shirik|Gh | I think it works out by ensuring that closures can't exist longer than any references given to it |
| 06:32.55 | Shirik|Gh | though that's not necessarily true as templates could handle it |
| 06:33.02 | Shirik|Gh | I dunno I'll have to read the spec |
| 06:33.03 | cogwheel | Shirik|Gh: that's what the fat pointer would do |
| 06:33.05 | amro | how can it know? are closures limited to a scope? |
| 06:33.14 | cogwheel | the stack frame is moved to a table |
| 06:33.27 | cogwheel | for functions with closures inside |
| 06:33.31 | Shirik|Gh | amro: The type is implementation defined, so you can't return it, etc. |
| 06:34.05 | Shirik|Gh | the only way you can "store" a closure is with auto |
| 06:34.14 | Shirik|Gh | or maybe through templates |
| 06:34.23 | amro | but you can pass it as an argument from what I saw |
| 06:34.29 | Fisker | amro |
| 06:34.31 | Fisker | i'm tired |
| 06:34.38 | Shirik|Gh | what type would you pass it as |
| 06:34.40 | Fisker | also why did blizzard fuck up my ptr? |
| 06:35.16 | cogwheel | nulls Fisker's ptr |
| 06:35.49 | Shirik|Gh | Fisker = nullptr? |
| 06:36.17 | Fisker | i farted |
| 06:36.21 | amro | Shirik|Gh: I don't know, I'm just saying it can be passed |
| 06:36.27 | Shirik|Gh | aha |
| 06:36.31 | Shirik|Gh | "If a closure object containing references to local variables is invoked after the innermost block scope of its creation, the behaviour is undefined." |
| 06:36.35 | amro | so could you then spawn a thread passing it a closure then return from the calling function? |
| 06:36.42 | Shirik|Gh | So they just specify "don't do that" and leave it like that |
| 06:36.52 | Shirik|Gh | the same way that returning a reference to a local variable breaks |
| 06:40.17 | Fisker | Shirik|Gh |
| 06:40.19 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 06:40.27 | Shirik|Gh | btw amro I don't disagree with the fact that you can pass it |
| 06:40.30 | Shirik|Gh | just that you can't really store it |
| 06:40.35 | Shirik|Gh | at least not in any usable fashion |
| 06:41.22 | amro | yeah it's what I figured, it just wasn't mentioned in any of the writeups about lambdas |
| 06:41.38 | Fisker | why won't i die Shirik|Gh ? |
| 06:41.58 | Shirik|Gh | because you must serve me first Fisker |
| 06:42.00 | zenzio | so this is really quite a lambda complex |
| 06:42.07 | Shirik|Gh | stabs zenzio |
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| 06:49.39 | airtonix | problem solved |
| 06:50.43 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 06:50.45 | Fisker | i'm a sick puppy |
| 06:51.07 | airtonix | maybe you have worms |
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| 06:58.02 | Shirik|Gh | fortunately they're not that big |
| 06:58.03 | Shirik|Gh | hoho |
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| 07:23.03 | amro | http://imgur.com/Dtt2G |
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| 07:25.46 | zenzio | amro: I don't get it |
| 07:25.58 | amro | jon stewart doing a parody of glenn beck |
| 07:26.11 | zenzio | ah. Heard of him, but never seen the show |
| 07:26.15 | zenzio | (Beck) |
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| 07:41.13 | Fisker | free bam amro |
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| 07:50.35 | jnwhiteh | amro: Shirik|Gh: what language? |
| 07:51.00 | amro | jnwhiteh: C++11 |
| 07:51.09 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 07:52.17 | jnwhiteh | this guy keeps editing his post |
| 07:52.24 | jnwhiteh | like 2-3 times 3 times this week |
| 07:52.24 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/forums/development/501 |
| 07:52.52 | zenzio | heh |
| 07:53.12 | jnwhiteh | it boggles the mind |
| 07:53.13 | jnwhiteh | BOGGLES! |
| 07:53.32 | Fisker | no jnwhiteh |
| 07:53.37 | Fisker | my mind is pretty unboggled |
| 07:53.42 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no u |
| 07:53.46 | Fisker | yes me |
| 07:54.08 | Fisker | i want CM7 for my Optimus 2x already :< |
| 07:54.20 | haste | port it |
| 07:54.26 | Fisker | no haste |
| 07:54.41 | haste | then you can't have it! |
| 07:54.49 | Fisker | MCR is fukken fast though |
| 07:54.50 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:58.06 | mckenziemc | thud and blunder, Fisker |
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| 08:24.26 | airtonix | mcr? |
| 08:24.54 | Fisker | modaco custom rom |
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| 08:55.01 | zenzio | "As a Hungarian, I feel ashamed that this is what people think about when they think about my fine nation. Here, we call it Bulgarian Notation" |
| 09:00.08 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 09:13.24 | airtonix | lol midgets |
| 09:13.55 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:15.08 | mckenziemc | slaps airtonix around a bit with a shrunken Fisker |
| 09:15.23 | airtonix | settle down children |
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| 10:33.48 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/883/ |
| 10:34.19 | Fisker | i chuckl'd |
| 10:41.25 | airtonix | why |
| 10:41.51 | Fisker | because airtonix |
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| 10:53.29 | airtonix | i don't understand |
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| 11:18.02 | Adys | anyone knows of an extension/userscript that displays the google navbar on encrypted.google? |
| 11:25.01 | mikma | wobin: http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/deathpool/ |
| 11:25.11 | mckenziemc | lol @ xkcd |
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| 11:57.28 | karl_w_w | blizzard are crazy |
| 11:57.28 | drag0nius | hello |
| 11:57.41 | drag0nius | how can i use custom .blp file as texture in addon? |
| 11:57.51 | drag0nius | (what to type as path)? |
| 12:00.15 | cbreak_work | the path to the file |
| 12:00.23 | drag0nius | but where it starts? |
| 12:00.24 | cbreak_work | relative to the wow application directory |
| 12:00.29 | drag0nius | k |
| 12:00.41 | cbreak_work | you are using normal lua strings? |
| 12:00.58 | foxlit | urgh |
| 12:01.09 | karl_w_w | "Interface\\AddOns\\youraddon\\file.blp" |
| 12:01.12 | cbreak_work | then it's probably something like "\\interface\\addons\\...\\texture.blp" |
| 12:01.19 | cbreak_work | yeah, capitalisation is important |
| 12:01.26 | cbreak_work | use the one that the actual folders have |
| 12:01.50 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} function trim(t, start) for i=start+1, #t do t[i-start], t[i] = t[i], nil; end end trim(t, 3) return t; |
| 12:01.51 | lua_bot | foxlit: table: 0x92630c8 |
| 12:02.24 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} function trim(t, start) for i=start+1, #t do t[i-start], t[i] = t[i], nil; end end trim(t, 3) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k .. " => " .. v); end |
| 12:02.24 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 => 4, 2 => 5, 3 => 6 |
| 12:02.53 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} function trim(t, start) for i=start+1, #t do t[i-start], t[i] = t[i], nil; end end trim(t, 5) for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k .. " => " .. v); end |
| 12:02.54 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1 => 6, 2 => 2, 3 => 3, 4 => 4, 5 => 5 |
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| 12:03.05 | foxlit | Spot the horrible, horrible bug. |
| 12:05.03 | mckenziemc | can't tell what the function is supposed to do : / |
| 12:05.13 | foxlit | horrible. |
| 12:05.38 | zenzio | remove all entries below the start index? |
| 12:05.41 | foxlit | function trim(t, start) for i=1,start do table.remove(t,1); end end would work |
| 12:06.32 | foxlit | zenzio: below or equal to, but otherwise, right :) |
| 12:06.35 | mckenziemc | but using i-start and i looks suspicious, as they walk in different directions |
| 12:06.57 | mckenziemc | no nvm |
| 12:08.17 | mckenziemc | it would be possible to speed the function up though by avoiding table.remove, wouldn't it? |
| 12:08.49 | mckenziemc | assuming teh replacement was actually done well, and that optimizing for speed wouldn't be wasted effort |
| 12:09.50 | zenzio | is #t evaluated only once in that for? |
| 12:11.07 | foxlit | for limits are locked in when you enter the block, yes. |
| 12:14.13 | foxlit | I went with for i=1,#t do t[i] = t[i+start]; end |
| 12:15.42 | mckenziemc | i seem to be very bad at understanding code given only the code itself and not the context :( |
| 12:16.23 | zenzio | I tend to have more trouble interpreting code when I can't test it myself; such as at work (why don't I have a lua interpreter here?) |
| 12:16.44 | mckenziemc | is it just me? i've noticed other people don't put many comments in their code and assumed it was just laziness, but maybe i'm just too horrible at reading code |
| 12:17.07 | zenzio | people write code in different ways |
| 12:17.21 | foxlit | Reading code is a skill, so people have different proficiency levels. |
| 12:17.23 | zenzio | if their code is more similar to the way your write, you read theirs more easily |
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| 12:18.02 | foxlit | Plus that. It's usually easier to read your own code. |
| 12:18.26 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 12:18.57 | zenzio | it also depends on context as you say, if you know what you're looking for |
| 12:19.02 | foxlit | In this case, pretend you have an array of jobs you have to perform. |
| 12:19.12 | mckenziemc | i do wonder how much of an effect each factor has on the decision of where to put comments, though |
| 12:19.21 | foxlit | You've figured out that you've already done the first N, so you want to construct an array of jobs you still have to perform. |
| 12:19.31 | zenzio | I recall some time ago someone was having trouble with a macro, and asked for help... people in here went into all kinds of suggestions on how to improve it, but the actual problem was a missing "end" |
| 12:19.44 | mckenziemc | haha |
| 12:22.23 | mckenziemc | wouldn't "for i=1,#t do t[i] = t[i+start]; end" remove one too many |
| 12:22.33 | mckenziemc | assuming start is the index that you want to become the first |
| 12:23.56 | foxlit | Under that assumption, yes. |
| 12:24.31 | foxlit | gah, corner. |
| 12:24.55 | foxlit | I want to color the ordered list numerals without affecting the ordered list text. |
| 12:25.07 | foxlit | Unfortunately, both those things inherit li's color |
| 12:25.29 | zenzio | if you don't mind getting dirty, put the text in a span |
| 12:26.15 | foxlit | I had a div there previously, but I stripped it out at some point to reduce the amount of used tags. |
| 12:26.31 | zenzio | yeah, that's what I meant by dirty |
| 12:28.03 | mckenziemc | baw |
| 12:28.21 | mckenziemc | i can't grab this mine an a low-level alliance base because the nearby npc spawns an 85 guard : / |
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| 12:44.20 | mckenziemc | ~trout lopeppeppy |
| 12:44.21 | purl | ACTION slaps lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout! |
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| 12:44.53 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi to you there. |
| 12:46.13 | mckenziemc | there? i'm nowhere |
| 12:46.30 | mckenziemc | except in your head perhaps |
| 12:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | My head is a vasty universe. Mind your footing. |
| 12:47.09 | mckenziemc | falls to his death. |
| 12:47.21 | Lopeppeppy | tsk tsk |
| 12:47.39 | zenzio | research is amusing: "The job of your old brain is to constantly scan the environment and answer the questions: âCan I eat it? Can I have sex with it? Will it kill me?â Thatâs really all the old brain cares about, is food sex and danger." |
| 12:47.44 | zenzio | http://www.whatmakesthemclick.net/2009/11/15/100-things-you-should-know-about-people-11-you-cant-resist-paying-attention-to-food-sex-or-danger/ |
| 12:48.45 | foxlit | zenzio: that likely explains the smbc comic |
| 12:48.49 | Lopeppeppy | The hind brain is useful, but not always "functional" in today's society. |
| 12:49.23 | mckenziemc | which part is the hind brain : / |
| 12:49.27 | mckenziemc | i don't remember |
| 12:49.37 | zenzio | survival stuff |
| 12:49.49 | mckenziemc | ah then, in that case |
| 12:49.54 | zenzio | âCan I eat it? Can I have sex with it? Will it kill me?â could really all be about sex, if you read it that way |
| 12:50.02 | mckenziemc | i think that part is all _too_ functional in today's society |
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| 12:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | functionING, but not functionAL. :) |
| 12:51.01 | mckenziemc | good point |
| 12:53.07 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:54.45 | Lopeppeppy | Love you too. |
| 12:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | You see, Fisker can no longer tell the difference between an object to kill, an object to share food with, and an object of sexual possibility. So he kind of blurs it all in his fish-attack. |
| 12:55.19 | mikma | fisker likes to fisk with a fisk |
| 12:56.14 | mckenziemc | ~fiskers |
| 12:56.14 | purl | ACTION fiskerly fiskers Fisker. |
| 12:57.13 | mckenziemc | btw, not that anything is an object of sexual possibility wrt Fisker |
| 12:57.59 | zenzio | don't be so sure |
| 12:58.11 | zenzio | he had a period where he would claim to have fucked everyone's dogs or whatever |
| 12:58.26 | zenzio | whether he has been saying that recently I wouldn't know |
| 12:59.00 | mckenziemc | the chinese already solved that problem |
| 12:59.17 | mckenziemc | sec |
| 13:00.48 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch#China second sentence |
| 13:01.35 | Lopeppeppy | Just making someone a eunuch did not always remove their functionality, much to the surprise of the ruling class... |
| 13:03.38 | alestane | In fact, the Romans prized that fact. |
| 13:06.54 | alestane | On another note. I just tried to solve "log A (10) == 2log A (6)" for A and got "10 == 36". Since this is patently false, either I did it completely wrong, or there is no such A. |
| 13:07.59 | krka | i get the same thing |
| 13:08.38 | alestane | Of course, the other problem is that the common approach for solving log equations removes the log term entirely from that equation. |
| 13:09.03 | foxlit | A = 1 |
| 13:09.24 | foxlit | [ill-defined notions be damned.] |
| 13:09.26 | krka | log_1 is not really that well defined |
| 13:10.08 | foxlit | Your equation is basically log_A (10) = log_A (36) |
| 13:10.28 | alestane | Which obviously isn't going to work. |
| 13:12.03 | alestane | In other words, regardless of the base, twice the logarithm of 6 is going to be the logarithm of 36. |
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| 13:13.19 | alestane | Or more generally, n * log_A(x) == log_A(x^n). |
| 13:13.34 | alestane | Damn, it's been way too long since I did any of this stuff. |
| 13:15.49 | alestane | So to construct a function f with a logarithmic term such that f(10) == 2f(6), I'm going to need to do some subtraction or something first. |
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| 13:20.51 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/funny-pictures-cuteness-scale-to-i-iz-an-elebenty.jpg |
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| 13:30.36 | Kraps | http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/inception_infographic.jpg |
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| 13:38.47 | Kraps | "That comes from the vuvuzela, a meter-long plastic horn South African soccer fans blow to show their support for the sport and contempt for everything else in existence" |
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| 13:43.48 | karl_w_w | there are 5 healing specs in the game right? im not goin crazy? |
| 13:44.22 | cbreak_work | priest, druid, paladin, shaman and mage? |
| 13:44.36 | karl_w_w | not mage :P |
| 13:44.39 | karl_w_w | 2 priest specs |
| 13:44.42 | cbreak_work | but... but mages rock! |
| 13:44.48 | cbreak_work | well, disc is more a shield spec |
| 13:45.05 | karl_w_w | if u like going oom and being bored it is |
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| 13:45.36 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: WTB: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=95739 |
| 13:46.03 | Kraps | how is disc boring?! in wotlk it rocked! |
| 13:46.22 | Kraps | now its an oomfest |
| 13:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | They all go through cycles of being an ohnooomfest. |
| 13:48.06 | karl_w_w | disc is an oomfest if u play badly |
| 13:48.10 | Ackis | disc is a viable spec |
| 13:51.00 | jnwhiteh | Adys: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1022&t=95739 |
| 13:51.44 | Adys | jnwhiteh: yep, saw it a while back on the wiki |
| 13:51.50 | jnwhiteh | its *super* nice |
| 13:51.56 | jnwhiteh | Too bad Cog is sleeping. |
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| 13:52.02 | Adys | i thought of using it to make subway maps |
| 13:52.26 | Lopeppeppy | cog-a-thingie doesn't get to sleep! |
| 13:52.53 | jnwhiteh | I wonder how long it takes to render a larger world |
| 13:52.58 | jnwhiteh | too bad I dont have a large save on this computer |
| 13:53.01 | jnwhiteh | just on my office one |
| 13:54.10 | Adys | you have my large save :P |
| 13:54.21 | jnwhiteh | on my office computer =) |
| 13:54.22 | Adys | i might still have it up for dl |
| 13:54.30 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if this pngcrushes |
| 13:54.43 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 13:54.56 | jnwhiteh | jesus 192 meg render |
| 13:55.12 | jnwhiteh | err save |
| 13:55.22 | Adys | =P |
| 13:55.32 | Adys | many 3000+ blocks lines :) |
| 13:57.06 | Xinhuan | wow jnwhiteh |
| 13:57.08 | Xinhuan | that's so cool |
| 13:57.10 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 13:57.13 | jnwhiteh | cog needs to wake up |
| 13:57.14 | jnwhiteh | immediately =) |
| 13:57.29 | jnwhiteh | or Iriel |
| 13:57.31 | jnwhiteh | he has a save too :P |
| 13:57.38 | Lopeppeppy | He can't. It's still dark outside where he lives! |
| 13:57.43 | Xinhuan | lol a google maps of our server |
| 13:58.06 | Adys | I wanted to do something similar with wow maps, had started it and then gave the code away to some other guy who finished it |
| 13:58.08 | Adys | pretty sure it got abandoned |
| 13:58.19 | Adys | google maps api confuses me |
| 13:58.47 | Thunder_Child | jnwhiteh: L2dropboxyoursaves |
| 13:58.52 | jnwhiteh | Thunder_Child: ... |
| 13:58.57 | jnwhiteh | that is hell |
| 13:59.02 | Xinhuan | that thread is old |
| 13:59.05 | Xinhuan | 4 months |
| 13:59.06 | jnwhiteh | minecraft saves *way* too often. |
| 13:59.16 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:59.19 | jnwhiteh | and I can't save a multiplayer server that I don't run |
| 13:59.19 | Thunder_Child | no, i mean run it out of dropbox |
| 13:59.20 | jnwhiteh | nublet. |
| 13:59.22 | Fisker | saves jnwhiteh |
| 13:59.28 | jnwhiteh | Adys: found 16500 chunks so far |
| 13:59.30 | jnwhiteh | still scanning |
| 13:59.32 | Fisker | sees a car run over jnwhiteh |
| 13:59.39 | Adys | yeah, it's a very large map :P |
| 13:59.43 | Fisker | guess i saved too rarely amirite? |
| 13:59.49 | Adys | thats what 45-player servers do to you =) |
| 13:59.55 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 14:00.04 | jnwhiteh | cog chopped the two penises off our server |
| 14:00.07 | jnwhiteh | its nice and normal again |
| 14:00.30 | Adys | that always happens to me. |
| 14:00.55 | Xinhuan | what map |
| 14:00.56 | Fisker | zomg freedom of speech jnwhiteh |
| 14:01.16 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: i'm rendering the server Adys is on |
| 14:01.22 | jnwhiteh | since the save was here =) |
| 14:01.28 | Adys | jnwhiteh: you better upload it too |
| 14:01.32 | Xinhuan | ah who's server is that |
| 14:01.33 | Adys | i kinda wanna see now :P |
| 14:01.39 | jnwhiteh | Adys: that rsync is going to take FOREVER |
| 14:01.39 | Adys | Xinhuan: my guild's server |
| 14:01.42 | jnwhiteh | but we'll see |
| 14:01.48 | jnwhiteh | 59900 chunks |
| 14:01.48 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 14:01.51 | Adys | haha |
| 14:02.29 | Xinhuan | that averages out to 244x244 chunks |
| 14:02.33 | Adys | does tectonicus do all-layer renderings? |
| 14:02.45 | Adys | or just surface? |
| 14:02.48 | jnwhiteh | I think just surface |
| 14:02.51 | jnwhiteh | but there are switches |
| 14:02.53 | jnwhiteh | so it can do others |
| 14:02.58 | Fisker | spits chunks in Xinhuan's face |
| 14:03.55 | Xinhuan | hmm 59900 also equates to about 39x39x39 chunks |
| 14:04.17 | Xinhuan | but you cannot have 39 chunks vertically |
| 14:04.17 | jnwhiteh | it can do caves |
| 14:04.18 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:04.24 | Adys | Xinhuan: http://188.165.247.199/latest.png |
| 14:04.27 | Adys | our server's map |
| 14:04.34 | Adys | but the daily render is limited in size |
| 14:04.49 | jnwhiteh | ah screwface. |
| 14:04.53 | jnwhiteh | java heap space exhausted. |
| 14:05.04 | Adys | sounds about right |
| 14:05.07 | jnwhiteh | anyone recall the commandline options for extending that? |
| 14:05.14 | Xinhuan | our server's 2 penises is still on the current-isometric png :P |
| 14:05.21 | jnwhiteh | also, I think I'm gonna do a nighly render |
| 14:05.28 | Adys | java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui |
| 14:05.29 | Adys | this? |
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| 14:05.35 | Kraps|ipod | Who's server is it |
| 14:05.40 | Adys | Kraps|ipod: mine |
| 14:05.44 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: no penis on our server, you must have the old URL |
| 14:05.58 | jnwhiteh | Adys: thanks, i'll try that |
| 14:06.12 | Adys | btw |
| 14:06.14 | Adys | http://www.lords-zodiac.com/images/jeux/minecraft/fullmap13/30-03-2011-day.zip |
| 14:06.29 | Adys | full map from a week ago |
| 14:06.32 | jnwhiteh | Adys: night lighting |
| 14:06.34 | Adys | 30mb |
| 14:06.35 | jnwhiteh | or day? |
| 14:06.37 | Adys | day |
| 14:06.44 | Adys | (mcmap gen) |
| 14:07.01 | Adys | i can generate a night map if you want but ill need somewhere to upload it |
| 14:07.07 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:07.12 | jnwhiteh | i was asking which you wanted me to generate =) |
| 14:07.13 | Kraps|ipod | Do cog and/or kd3 have their own? |
| 14:07.15 | Adys | ah |
| 14:07.16 | Adys | day :p |
| 14:07.21 | jnwhiteh | Kraps|ipod: cog has a server |
| 14:07.26 | jnwhiteh | that's one of the two we're discussing |
| 14:07.32 | jnwhiteh | Adys also has a guild server |
| 14:08.53 | Fisker | Kraps|ipod |
| 14:08.57 | Fisker | stop living a lie |
| 14:09.18 | Xinhuan | meh |
| 14:09.22 | Adys | Fisker |
| 14:09.24 | Adys | stop living and die |
| 14:09.25 | Xinhuan | adys' your map is still loading :P |
| 14:09.30 | Fisker | no Adys |
| 14:09.32 | Fisker | i can't |
| 14:09.57 | Adys | Xinhuan: which, the daily or the 36mb one? |
| 14:10.10 | Kraps|ipod | We also wanted to clarify, mounts that have a possibility to be found in a Satchel of Exotic Mysteries are found with the same rarity as if you had slain the dungeon boss that normally drops them. |
| 14:10.40 | Adys | yea well thank god for that |
| 14:10.50 | Xinhuan | 8,384px à 4,318px |
| 14:10.58 | jnwhiteh | okay, rendering again. |
| 14:11.06 | jnwhiteh | lets see if the heap can handle it =) |
| 14:11.09 | Adys | Xinhuan: thats the full one |
| 14:11.26 | Xinhuan | hahah i see a HOLLYWOOD |
| 14:11.34 | Adys | yeah |
| 14:11.40 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: what do you want to do with my grinder? |
| 14:11.42 | Adys | that would be herald square, the whole area |
| 14:11.47 | jnwhiteh | i dont know that I have the patience to destroy it |
| 14:11.56 | jnwhiteh | we could pixel-art the sides |
| 14:11.57 | Adys | that small tower was supposed to be the empire state building |
| 14:12.12 | Adys | jnwhiteh: grinder = mob tower? |
| 14:12.16 | jnwhiteh | Adys: yeah |
| 14:12.19 | jnwhiteh | i built this one above ground |
| 14:12.23 | jnwhiteh | way outside of spawn area |
| 14:12.25 | Adys | http://188.165.247.199/latest.png check around the center |
| 14:12.28 | jnwhiteh | but now its a very popular area |
| 14:12.28 | Xinhuan | your server has so much stuff |
| 14:12.29 | Adys | under the white square |
| 14:12.37 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan has some beachfront property there |
| 14:12.39 | Adys | that's a friend's mob tower |
| 14:12.45 | Adys | pixart all over the place |
| 14:12.51 | Adys | and ended up decorating it as a castle |
| 14:12.58 | jnwhiteh | Adys: yeah |
| 14:13.00 | jnwhiteh | that was a thought |
| 14:13.04 | Xinhuan | pixel art hmmmm |
| 14:13.06 | jnwhiteh | Rendering tile @ -7,-11 (tile 190 of 85754 |
| 14:13.07 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 14:13.14 | Adys | pro. |
| 14:13.19 | Xinhuan | put a wow icon ability on each face |
| 14:13.20 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 14:13.23 | Adys | lol |
| 14:13.34 | Adys | the wow icons are quite detailed |
| 14:13.44 | jnwhiteh | yeah, something simpler would be nice. |
| 14:13.48 | Adys | well |
| 14:13.52 | jnwhiteh | how about a fighter, black mage, white mage and thief? |
| 14:13.53 | Adys | some abilities would be possible i guess |
| 14:14.05 | jnwhiteh | with .. something on top |
| 14:14.34 | Adys | http://static.wowhead.com/images/wow/icons/small/spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg |
| 14:14.37 | Adys | this might be possible |
| 14:15.05 | Adys | or well dunno |
| 14:15.19 | Xinhuan | adys your server is .. how old? :P |
| 14:15.26 | Adys | 4 weeks ish |
| 14:15.31 | Adys | 5 actually now |
| 14:15.35 | Xinhuan | oh dear, i just saw the mario world |
| 14:15.57 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://rinoaff10.deviantart.com/ - she does nice sprites |
| 14:16.03 | Adys | i used a couple of these for pixart |
| 14:16.14 | Adys | i *really* want to do the sonic one but meh |
| 14:16.48 | Ackis | hmm am I the only one that thinks minecrafts release date/slogan is pretty lame/disrespectful? |
| 14:16.53 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: its a restart tho |
| 14:16.59 | jnwhiteh | they had a test server |
| 14:17.02 | jnwhiteh | and its very organised |
| 14:17.02 | mitch0 | disrespectful? |
| 14:17.13 | Adys | our test server was terrible =) |
| 14:17.13 | jnwhiteh | Adys: indeed! |
| 14:17.17 | Ackis | mitch0: aye |
| 14:17.20 | Xinhuan | the 111111? |
| 14:17.26 | jnwhiteh | Adys: but you learned from your mistakes :P |
| 14:17.30 | Adys | :P |
| 14:17.32 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: i dont think its any |
| 14:17.35 | jnwhiteh | the game is already out |
| 14:17.41 | mitch0 | ackis: in what way would it be disrespectful? |
| 14:17.44 | jnwhiteh | its perfectly in line, why not tag onto a popular date =) |
| 14:17.45 | Xinhuan | honestly, the release date could be 2 weeks ago for all i care |
| 14:17.54 | Xinhuan | the creator still will release patches regularly |
| 14:17.56 | Adys | its not gonna matter much |
| 14:17.56 | Adys | yea |
| 14:18.09 | Ackis | the release date is November 11 with the slogan "us too"... November 11 is Remembrance Day in Canada and something similar in the US where you remember the actions of the war vets and their sacrifices |
| 14:18.22 | Adys | who cares |
| 14:18.26 | Adys | seriously |
| 14:18.31 | Xinhuan | what happened on your test server? ;) |
| 14:18.35 | Adys | there's only 365 days in a year |
| 14:18.40 | mitch0 | uhum. yeah, that (who cares) |
| 14:18.53 | Adys | you'll always find something in some country for some people that's going to be in some way somewhat offensive |
| 14:18.57 | Ackis | the millions of soldiers who died in wars maybe? |
| 14:19.00 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: umm |
| 14:19.01 | Ackis | this isn't country specific |
| 14:19.03 | jnwhiteh | its 'us too' |
| 14:19.05 | mitch0 | they don't care |
| 14:19.07 | Adys | yes it bloody is |
| 14:19.09 | mitch0 | they're dead |
| 14:19.09 | jnwhiteh | because like 4 games are being released on that day |
| 14:19.17 | Adys | 11/11/11 is a popular date for a bunch of stuff for obvious reasons |
| 14:19.19 | jnwhiteh | Also, they're a Swedish company |
| 14:19.23 | Adys | it has NOTHING to do with remembrance day |
| 14:19.25 | Kraps|ipod | In what context is he saying us too? |
| 14:19.29 | jnwhiteh | I don't think it is even remotely disrespectful |
| 14:19.35 | Adys | aye jnwhiteh |
| 14:19.35 | jnwhiteh | Kraps|ipod: there are many games being released on that day |
| 14:19.38 | jnwhiteh | specifically one he wants to play |
| 14:20.01 | jnwhiteh | "We picked November 11, with the unofficial tagline âus tooâ. Itâs the same date as a few other games and movies, and the one Iâm the most excited about is Skyrim, so that will be a nice reward for me if we actually manage to hit that date!" |
| 14:20.40 | mitch0 | ackis: in conclusion: get a life |
| 14:20.42 | Ackis | ah Us too was hey we're releasing other games |
| 14:20.46 | Ackis | mitch0: go fuck yourself |
| 14:20.49 | mitch0 | :) |
| 14:21.22 | Adys | ubuntu maverick was released on the 10th of october 2010 (10/10/10) |
| 14:21.28 | Kraps|ipod | On a friday? Hmm |
| 14:21.34 | Xinhuan | how old is cog's server btw? |
| 14:21.36 | Dagmar | No one that's going to play Skyrim is going to be particularly conflicted about whether or not they "buy" minecraft on that day |
| 14:21.36 | Adys | im pretty sure that wouldnt be appreciated in the caribbeans |
| 14:21.55 | Xinhuan | a week? |
| 14:21.58 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: Feb 27, afaik |
| 14:22.05 | Dagmar | The vast majority already bought it anyway |
| 14:22.20 | jnwhiteh | but there's only a few of us active on it |
| 14:22.28 | Xinhuan | so adys server has way more active users ! |
| 14:22.33 | jnwhiteh | 45 vs 4 |
| 14:22.35 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 14:22.40 | Xinhuan | 4? lol |
| 14:22.52 | Xinhuan | i think more |
| 14:23.04 | jnwhiteh | well yssaril, Cog and Ms. Cog and me are the primary users |
| 14:23.13 | jnwhiteh | Then the green line guys |
| 14:23.15 | jnwhiteh | so 6 =) |
| 14:25.00 | Adys | well we only have 25-28 active users |
| 14:25.11 | Adys | 45 is our whitelist size |
| 14:25.23 | Adys | online peak is somewhere around 22 |
| 14:25.24 | Xinhuan | well gotta add me and blue now :P |
| 14:25.46 | Adys | jnwhiteh: we're building our second village atm =) |
| 14:25.54 | Adys | not as large as the central town |
| 14:26.08 | Adys | just something at the bottom of a large mountain, with an overhead castle |
| 14:26.26 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: yeah, and that's a good thing |
| 14:26.29 | Adys | bottom-right ish of the map http://188.165.247.199/latest.png |
| 14:26.32 | jnwhiteh | our server is more organic than organised |
| 14:26.38 | jnwhiteh | I think there's benefits to both =) |
| 14:26.50 | Cairenn | growls, "People suck!" |
| 14:27.02 | Adys | hugs Cairenn |
| 14:27.04 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 14:27.09 | Xinhuan | maybe we should be more organized! |
| 14:27.20 | Xinhuan | or i'll be terraforming the entire area around my house |
| 14:27.32 | Cairenn | Fucking sense of entitlement makes me so aggravated some days |
| 14:27.40 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: I'm happy to plan out our side of the world |
| 14:27.45 | Xinhuan | http://i.imgur.com/UVNCC.jpg |
| 14:27.46 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 14:27.49 | jnwhiteh | its just the three of us right now, we can do whatever we want =) |
| 14:27.52 | Xinhuan | one of notch's screenshots for 1.5 |
| 14:27.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 14:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | I will happily nuke them from orbit for you, Cairenn, because beating the crap out of someone would make my day! :) |
| 14:28.04 | jnwhiteh | he's fixing the borders of biomes so its not like that |
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| 14:28.12 | jnwhiteh | Adys: 13k out of 87k |
| 14:28.16 | Adys | lol |
| 14:28.26 | Xinhuan | oh jnwhiteh |
| 14:28.29 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: "Look I am tired of reporting that the Author is not responding to requests to update this UI/file and not getting any response. Please do something about this." |
| 14:28.33 | Xinhuan | what's with the extreme eastern train station? |
| 14:28.51 | Adys | jnwhiteh: we have a bit of both on our server; we started with a small town in the middle with very strict rules, and then "if you want to build something big, you ask the gm" |
| 14:28.57 | Adys | gm assigns you a spot of whatever size you like |
| 14:28.58 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: as in desert hub? |
| 14:29.02 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 14:29.08 | alestane | What, Cairenn? |
| 14:29.09 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: my response: "And just what, precisely, would you have us "do about this"? We aren't the author. We don't employ the author. He is not paid for doing it. He is not obligated in any way to do it. He does this in his spare time. He does it primarily for himself, but chooses to upload it so that if others wish to use it they may. Are you paying him to do it? No? So what, precisely, would you have us do?" |
| 14:29.10 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: nothing right now, it'll be the major easter hub |
| 14:29.11 | jnwhiteh | eastern |
| 14:29.13 | Xinhuan | there doesn't seem to be anything there apart from a half dug sand area |
| 14:29.24 | Xinhuan | which looks like it could be a future mob grinder |
| 14:29.38 | Cairenn | grumps and growls some more |
| 14:29.40 | alestane | Oh, some luser who wants you to take responsibility for the author's failure to update his add-on? |
| 14:29.40 | krka | Cairenn: link? |
| 14:29.48 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: the dug area isn't there anymore, I've covered it. |
| 14:29.54 | Cairenn | krka: email |
| 14:29.55 | jnwhiteh | there is a blast area, where we blew 128 tnt =) |
| 14:29.57 | Adys | Cairenn: want me to answer for you? |
| 14:29.59 | jnwhiteh | i'm going to cover that in glass |
| 14:29.59 | Lopeppeppy | Response: "If the author doesn't respond to your impolite yammerings, you should consider that to be the kindest answer you're going to get, asshat." |
| 14:30.01 | krka | ah i see |
| 14:30.15 | Cairenn | some days ..... grrrrrr |
| 14:30.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Lusers are the number one reason why nice people buy Uzis. |
| 14:30.35 | Adys | ill send him something like "we're not updating the addon just to piss you off. everyone else has a secret update and you cant have it." |
| 14:30.45 | Cairenn | Adys: heh |
| 14:31.00 | Xinhuan | also not sure hwo to connect my house to the train network, jnwhiteh |
| 14:31.20 | Adys | jnwhiteh: oh, i found my old map backup if you want =) |
| 14:31.23 | Adys | the test map |
| 14:31.43 | Xinhuan | careful abotu blowing a alot of TNT though, too many it will crash the server |
| 14:31.50 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: I can help you with that, there's one spot |
| 14:31.53 | Xinhuan | due to all the physics |
| 14:32.01 | jnwhiteh | its easy |
| 14:32.15 | jnwhiteh | you just need to build a rail line that we can connect to |
| 14:32.37 | Adys | theres so much shit that can lag/crash the server |
| 14:32.38 | jnwhiteh | that may be a pain given the grinder collection canal and my tree farm |
| 14:32.42 | jnwhiteh | we'll spec it out |
| 14:32.43 | jnwhiteh | Adys: like what? |
| 14:32.48 | Xinhuan | to the main station? or to the hub next to you/mik's? |
| 14:32.52 | Adys | like moving water |
| 14:33.02 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: you'd need to connect to my sub-station |
| 14:33.14 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: you're too close to me to justify a main line |
| 14:33.23 | Adys | or moving lava actually |
| 14:33.25 | Adys | also slimes. |
| 14:33.36 | Ackis | haha Xinhuan isn't important enough |
| 14:33.41 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 14:33.43 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: .. hardly |
| 14:33.56 | jnwhiteh | he's like 50 blocks from the station |
| 14:33.58 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://i.imgur.com/aos2d.png |
| 14:34.19 | Ackis | I've played minecraft for maybe an hour or two... got bored |
| 14:34.19 | Xinhuan | my house isn't nearer the castle over the water in the southeast! |
| 14:34.33 | jnwhiteh | oh, lemme check the map =) |
| 14:35.03 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: where on the map is your house then? |
| 14:35.15 | Xinhuan | its north of your house |
| 14:35.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah that's what I thought |
| 14:35.21 | Xinhuan | a U shapped |
| 14:35.35 | jnwhiteh | yeah you confused me with what you said =) |
| 14:35.56 | jnwhiteh | your best bet is to piggy-back off my blue substation, if you have no issues with that |
| 14:36.01 | Xinhuan | the south east castle over water is closer to the train hub than my house heheh |
| 14:36.14 | Xinhuan | i'll have to look and see how that might work |
| 14:36.22 | jnwhiteh | what southeast castle? |
| 14:36.39 | Xinhuan | see the one a short distance southeast of the "cog" logo? |
| 14:36.51 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 14:37.13 | jnwhiteh | yeah I dunno |
| 14:37.15 | jnwhiteh | you can probably take a main line |
| 14:37.18 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:37.21 | jnwhiteh | but you'd need to ask cog about that |
| 14:37.34 | Xinhuan | actually, it will depend on whether i can be bothered to farm that much iron and wood for the damn rails |
| 14:37.36 | jnwhiteh | you'll just be re-running the same path mine or yssaril's line already use |
| 14:37.55 | jnwhiteh | the path from my house to the main station is like 6 stacks of iron |
| 14:38.25 | Xinhuan | anyone ever tried playing with a water slide as a means of transportation? |
| 14:38.35 | Xinhuan | and using a boat to travel back up the other way |
| 14:38.44 | Xinhuan | wait boat might not work |
| 14:38.54 | jnwhiteh | you could do two laned running water |
| 14:39.15 | Xinhuan | running water must go downwards |
| 14:39.20 | Xinhuan | every 7 tiles at least |
| 14:39.22 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 14:39.25 | jnwhiteh | you'd have to start high =) |
| 14:39.30 | Xinhuan | so how would the return trip work |
| 14:39.45 | jnwhiteh | it'd start at the same height, so you'd need a ladder :P |
| 14:39.55 | jnwhiteh | Adys: 23k/87k |
| 14:39.57 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 14:40.21 | Xinhuan | i completed my sugar cane and tree farm inside my house though |
| 14:40.34 | jnwhiteh | be careful with the tree farm |
| 14:40.45 | jnwhiteh | they need to be absurdly lit or they'll get spawns |
| 14:40.58 | Xinhuan | i'm quite sure i made it spawn-proof, want to check? lol |
| 14:41.00 | jnwhiteh | that's why I've used a lava ceiling :P |
| 14:41.25 | Xinhuan | its in my basement-2 |
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| 14:41.53 | Xinhuan | which is i think on the same elevation as mik's left over lava outpuring to the east of my house |
| 14:42.48 | Adys | jnwhiteh: need some iron? |
| 14:42.54 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/vJUaa.png |
| 14:43.05 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 14:44.02 | Corrodias | you can compress those into iron blocks, btw |
| 14:44.23 | Adys | yeah i know |
| 14:44.27 | Adys | but its way less cool |
| 14:44.27 | Adys | =) |
| 14:44.39 | Adys | i already compress my diamond like that. :p |
| 14:44.43 | Corrodias | k |
| 14:44.50 | Corrodias | and then build a diamond castle |
| 14:44.54 | Adys | absolutely |
| 14:48.09 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: I was going to cover the crater at desert hub with glass, thoughts? |
| 14:48.26 | Xinhuan | crater? |
| 14:48.29 | Xinhuan | let me log on lol |
| 14:48.45 | jnwhiteh | its probably what you think was 'dug', but it wasn't =) |
| 14:48.49 | Corrodias | perhaps a crater made by harvesting all the sand required to make the glass |
| 14:49.09 | jnwhiteh | nah, I steal the sand from another desert entirely :P |
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| 14:49.35 | Xinhuan | i stole sand from the area between jn/my house |
| 14:49.43 | Xinhuan | that's why its water flooded now :P |
| 14:49.53 | Ackis | I stole sand from Fisker's vag! |
| 14:50.04 | Adys | we know |
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| 14:50.57 | Xinhuan | travelling to the desert hub now |
| 14:52.11 | jnwhiteh | I'm rendering so can't login :P |
| 14:52.32 | Xinhuan | yeah its a huge crater, with some torches leading into a sand cave |
| 14:52.38 | Xinhuan | below the tracks |
| 14:52.48 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 14:52.51 | jnwhiteh | that's tnt-land |
| 14:52.55 | jnwhiteh | was going to glass it |
| 14:53.03 | jnwhiteh | think it'll be a cool view effect :P |
| 14:53.30 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dhuUChrD0k&feature=player_detailpage#t=56s |
| 14:53.37 | Xinhuan | what's to the southeast? |
| 14:53.40 | Ackis | that black cat was adopted by me :D |
| 14:53.48 | Xinhuan | i see some man made stuff over there on the map |
| 14:54.20 | Adys | jnwhiteh: hm, you changed your line to a 2-way one? |
| 14:54.28 | jnwhiteh | Adys: all lines are, yes. |
| 14:54.36 | Adys | ah |
| 14:54.39 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: the star was a marker for me when I got lost =) |
| 14:54.40 | Adys | didnt notice |
| 14:55.03 | Xinhuan | no longer will you get lost with google maps! |
| 14:55.10 | Lopeppeppy | Be a pepper, drink Dr. Pepper... |
| 14:55.38 | Xinhuan | . |
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| 14:55.44 | Xinhuan | minecraft hung again while on the way back |
| 14:55.47 | Xinhuan | now i have to run the remainder |
| 14:56.00 | Xinhuan | of the track |
| 14:56.14 | jnwhiteh | just start the booster |
| 14:56.21 | jnwhiteh | there's one on the way back |
| 14:56.25 | Adys | jnwhiteh: i dont understand why you have so many arrival hubs |
| 14:56.27 | Xinhuan | nvm, i'm less than a booster's distance away from the hub |
| 14:56.30 | Adys | why not merge them into one? |
| 14:56.34 | Adys | (at the central station) |
| 14:56.39 | Xinhuan | but where's my minecart :( |
| 14:57.08 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: ahead of you on the track |
| 14:57.11 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't go far withot you |
| 14:57.29 | jnwhiteh | Adys: could do, but each line has an entry/exit |
| 14:58.05 | Adys | jnwhiteh: it would immensely reduce your redstone circuits |
| 14:58.16 | Adys | you merge the exits and have only one retrieval system |
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| 14:58.28 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:58.31 | Adys | exactly |
| 14:58.34 | jnwhiteh | that already happens.. |
| 14:58.40 | jnwhiteh | there is only one arrival 'circuit' |
| 14:58.50 | Adys | yeah, but 3 "boosters" |
| 14:58.52 | Adys | instead of one |
| 14:58.57 | jnwhiteh | .. no |
| 14:59.07 | jnwhiteh | there are four slots for arrival |
| 14:59.13 | jnwhiteh | to handle rapid arrivals gracefully |
| 14:59.20 | Adys | umm |
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| 15:00.22 | Xinhuan | i found my cart on the "press button to stop locally" sign |
| 15:00.22 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 15:00.44 | Xinhuan | but stepping on it released the cart on the booster behind it so i had to replace that one |
| 15:01.42 | jnwhiteh | 50% done with renders |
| 15:01.44 | Adys | jnwhiteh: i love your water "parachute" |
| 15:02.10 | jnwhiteh | yeah ,they're handy =) |
| 15:02.14 | Xinhuan | where would i connect to in your train hub? |
| 15:02.29 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: we'd have to scout it out. |
| 15:02.48 | jnwhiteh | depends on if its over or underground |
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| 15:02.50 | jnwhiteh | over is easy |
| 15:02.50 | Xinhuan | you would need to expand the 4 options into 8 |
| 15:02.53 | jnwhiteh | I can connect it from wherever |
| 15:02.58 | jnwhiteh | no, there's one of the 4 free |
| 15:02.59 | Xinhuan | wouldn't you? |
| 15:03.05 | jnwhiteh | my mine doesn't need a train line |
| 15:03.08 | jnwhiteh | i'll be dismantling it. |
| 15:03.31 | jnwhiteh | it was meant to be for cog's mine |
| 15:03.34 | jnwhiteh | but he never connected so =) |
| 15:03.44 | Xinhuan | his mine is right next to his house lol |
| 15:03.50 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 15:03.51 | jnwhiteh | he has another |
| 15:03.54 | jnwhiteh | over by you now |
| 15:04.07 | jnwhiteh | allegedly =) |
| 15:04.11 | Xinhuan | and its pretty odd i have to pass through your house in order to get outside |
| 15:04.29 | jnwhiteh | its evolved in a weird way |
| 15:04.43 | jnwhiteh | i built the station and supplied all of the mats for it |
| 15:04.48 | jnwhiteh | so I mainly built it for me =) |
| 15:05.03 | jnwhiteh | with the intent to be helpful to anyone else settling in that area |
| 15:05.21 | jnwhiteh | I used to have an old train line that connected my hovel at spawn to this house.. but removed that when the main lines were put in. |
| 15:05.59 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: I'm happy to plan things out a bit more now that there's someone active over here. |
| 15:08.05 | Adys | jnwhiteh: what i meant earlier was these |
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| 15:08.21 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://i.imgur.com/0Xzny.png |
| 15:08.46 | Adys | why have 4 of them? |
| 15:08.47 | jnwhiteh | Adys: that's one arrival circuit |
| 15:08.52 | jnwhiteh | so mor than one person arrives gracefull |
| 15:09.04 | jnwhiteh | we very frequently travel in packs |
| 15:09.07 | jnwhiteh | and this handles that perfectly |
| 15:09.12 | jnwhiteh | we each get routed to one of the four arrival slots |
| 15:09.16 | Adys | ah, k, i thought they were like multiple lines |
| 15:09.20 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 15:09.23 | jnwhiteh | nothing to do with lines =) |
| 15:09.36 | Lunessa | ... I really need to get this Minecraft thing, huh? |
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| 15:09.50 | Adys | hi lunessa, we'll see you in 1 hour, two tops |
| 15:09.53 | jnwhiteh | ::P |
| 15:10.06 | Lunessa | I'm at work. I can't play now..! |
| 15:10.26 | TC-Laptop | i have minecraft and i cant follow the conversation :( |
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| 15:10.47 | Adys | Lunessa: a lot of people at work play minecraft :p |
| 15:10.50 | jnwhiteh | Adys: does that texture pack make things slower? |
| 15:11.01 | Adys | nop |
| 15:11.03 | Kraps | the rebbetca black soundboard app lololol |
| 15:11.07 | Adys | i cant speak for a low end machine tho |
| 15:11.12 | Kraps | rebbecca* |
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| 15:13.59 | Adys | jnwhiteh: have to say though, im going to send everyone who complains about my subway system being too complex on your server :P |
| 15:14.15 | jnwhiteh | why is ours complex? |
| 15:14.20 | jnwhiteh | press destination, get in cart! |
| 15:14.28 | Adys | not the system |
| 15:14.29 | Adys | the lines |
| 15:14.30 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 15:14.32 | jnwhiteh | oh, heh |
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| 15:20.48 | Adys | jnwhiteh: why do you use repeaters btw? |
| 15:20.51 | Adys | at the end of the lines |
| 15:20.56 | Adys | instead of a torch |
| 15:21.06 | jnwhiteh | Adys: technically they are diodes/repeaters =) |
| 15:21.11 | jnwhiteh | and they're being used as diodes :P |
| 15:21.20 | jnwhiteh | for one, they don't require negation |
| 15:21.47 | jnwhiteh | I don't recall why I did that on my side of things |
| 15:23.03 | Adys | i have to say, aerial lines are really nice when you're in them |
| 15:23.12 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 15:23.19 | Adys | but from outside =( |
| 15:23.22 | jnwhiteh | they can look cool as scenery as well |
| 15:23.23 | jnwhiteh | its just hard |
| 15:23.35 | jnwhiteh | Adys: 61k/85k |
| 15:23.40 | Adys | lol |
| 15:23.48 | jnwhiteh | then it has to downsample =) |
| 15:24.04 | Adys | and then |
| 15:24.05 | Adys | powercut! |
| 15:24.06 | Adys | oh no! |
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| 15:24.33 | Adys | jnwhiteh: btw, you can use a reduced reset loop for the carts for your launchers |
| 15:25.00 | jnwhiteh | if you're talking the main station I have nothing to do with that =) |
| 15:25.03 | nevcairiel | Some guy implemented a working 16-bit ALU in minecraft, now i'm not a big fan of the game, but that is impressive |
| 15:25.05 | Adys | nah |
| 15:25.06 | Adys | desert hub |
| 15:25.16 | Adys | jnwhiteh: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2157088/minecraft/doorbooster3.png |
| 15:25.19 | jnwhiteh | ah that hub was hacked together |
| 15:25.34 | jnwhiteh | ah, nice |
| 15:25.44 | Adys | dont even need the blocks under the end of the track if you're correctly situated |
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| 15:25.56 | Adys | all our stations are in the SouthWest |
| 15:26.06 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 15:26.34 | jnwhiteh | okay, running to the post office |
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| 15:28.06 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:28.27 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a tauren paladin. |
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| 15:31.00 | Lunessa | Oh man. "Here, make this account for this guy,and give him unrestricted employee-level access." Me: Who is he? Them: He's a guy who can't officially work here due to visa issues, but we want him to start right away. Me: Has the Security Director signed off on this then? Them: Nooooo, but can't you just help us out? Me: No, I like having a job. |
| 15:32.42 | Lunessa | Really people? I have to comply with state law before I hand out access to state computer systems. |
| 15:32.51 | Lunessa | *my job sucks* |
| 15:32.52 | Adys | you do? |
| 15:32.54 | Adys | thats a bummer |
| 15:33.51 | Lunessa | I work for a state university. Which means I have to follow a specific set of laws related to computer security. They're not even onerous. And still people try to get me to circumvent them daily. |
| 15:36.24 | bluspacecow | phewy |
| 15:36.31 | Kraps | dont be such a wuss Lunessa |
| 15:36.36 | bluspacecow | can't continue my mineshaft as i've run into lava |
| 15:36.43 | bluspacecow | i put water down it converts to obsidian |
| 15:36.48 | bluspacecow | i mine it and mre lava ! |
| 15:38.22 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:40.43 | karl_w_w | wow lava is underneath lava |
| 15:40.49 | karl_w_w | who woulda thunkit |
| 15:41.17 | Adys | i have to say im pretty surprised |
| 15:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | lurves Lunessa, and the sheeple can go get stuffed. |
| 15:43.45 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow: sounds like you found a good place to store the POWs |
| 15:43.56 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 15:44.07 | bluspacecow | sheepie ? |
| 15:45.41 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple. Cross between a sheep and a people. Stands around looking stupid no matter how carefully we tell them to just push the power button. Or right click with the mouse. Or copy/paste. |
| 15:45.56 | alestane | Sweet & sour pulled pork sandwich -> nom. |
| 15:46.02 | Fisker | you mean zombies? |
| 15:46.04 | dardack_ | ok it doesn't matter if someone is on a TW client compared to my US client for addon errors. He's posting screenshots of an error and settings, and if I set those same exact settings, I don't get any errors. |
| 15:46.13 | Fisker | or is sheeple just zombies that don't eat brains? |
| 15:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | is gonna burgle and murderize alestane for his noms. |
| 15:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple don't eat anything. They just stand there looking stupid no matter what you say or do. |
| 15:46.29 | Fisker | i'd murderize alestane too |
| 15:46.59 | karl_w_w | Fisker there's nothing you wouldn't murderize |
| 15:47.32 | Fisker | i wouldn't murderize Alram :( |
| 15:47.51 | Alram | oh ok |
| 15:48.14 | alestane | Lopeppeppy, then I wouldn't make any more. |
| 15:48.34 | alestane | Good marauders leave their prey to recover. |
| 15:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | Nuh uh. Eat them all up!!! |
| 15:48.56 | bluspacecow | *looks dumbly at Loppy* |
| 15:49.00 | bluspacecow | BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 15:49.04 | Lopeppeppy | Must now go and find some delicious nom before I do murders.... |
| 15:49.05 | Lopeppeppy | AFK! |
| 15:49.16 | bluspacecow | and my bucket |
| 15:50.10 | dardack_ | can bugsack grab taint bugs? |
| 15:52.45 | Lunessa | dardack_: Use /console taintLog 0/1/2 (0=off, 2=hugely verbose) to track down taint. |
| 15:53.11 | dardack_ | yea i know lunessa, but not sure this taint can be fixed, I can call CloseLoot in combat but Blizz doesn't like it |
| 15:53.12 | Lunessa | FYI, 2 is the best setting for development, but you can build up many megs of log files VERY fast. |
| 15:53.44 | Lunessa | Then don't do that. |
| 15:53.58 | dardack_ | but why is closeloot a protected call? |
| 15:54.18 | Lunessa | Because looting is Blizzard says so. |
| 15:54.31 | Lunessa | Because they said so. |
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| 15:55.00 | Ackis | Fisker: do you have herpies? http://notalwaysright.com/lindsay-lohan-is-bad-for-your-health/10933 |
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| 15:55.28 | dardack_ | but you can loot in combat, and close loot does close the loot |
| 15:56.21 | Ackis | giggles... taint. |
| 15:57.11 | Fisker | i don't know Ackis |
| 15:57.16 | Fisker | is there anything you want to tell me? |
| 15:58.09 | jnwhiteh | Adys: Downsampling 85754 tiles into 21786 tiles (17%) |
| 15:58.14 | Adys | lol |
| 15:58.15 | Ackis | I'm blackmailing you Fisker |
| 15:58.24 | dardack_ | how dook lunessa just check if in LockDown and dont' call close loot? |
| 15:58.37 | Fisker | oh god Ackis |
| 15:58.41 | Fisker | yes yes i have herpes |
| 15:58.47 | Ackis | Fisker: http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind go go go! or else I'll blackmail you even more! |
| 15:58.57 | Adys | also jnwhiteh |
| 15:58.59 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_CQxolp44s |
| 15:58.59 | Lunessa | dardack_: what does your addon do that you have to use a protected call? |
| 15:59.03 | Adys | hilarious door booster imo =P |
| 15:59.10 | Adys | its insane that it works |
| 15:59.20 | dardack_ | All i call is the function CloseLoot() |
| 15:59.25 | Fisker | oh my god Ackis |
| 15:59.33 | Alram | wow |
| 15:59.35 | Alram | adys is into minecraft |
| 15:59.40 | Alram | who would have expected that |
| 15:59.42 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 15:59.43 | dardack_ | my addon let's you loot what you want, delete things you don't want automatically, auto loot BoP's, stuff like that |
| 15:59.45 | mckenziemc | i'm very hungry |
| 15:59.53 | jnwhiteh | Adys: yeah, I saw that one |
| 15:59.55 | Adys | Alram: ive been into minecraft for a while, it's a much more interesting market than wow :P |
| 16:00.01 | Alram | im sure it is |
| 16:00.01 | Fisker | fuck you mckenziemc |
| 16:00.05 | Fisker | you can't blackmail me |
| 16:00.10 | Adys | and it's a lot more fun too |
| 16:00.13 | mckenziemc | but i'd still be hungry Fisker |
| 16:00.15 | Alram | yes it is |
| 16:00.21 | Fisker | indeed mckenziemc |
| 16:00.22 | Alram | i dont play wow anymore just minecraft :( |
| 16:00.24 | Fisker | that is my point |
| 16:00.27 | dardack_ | sorry lunessa i ddidn't put your name in my replies |
| 16:00.40 | Lunessa | dardack_: Yes, but why does YOUR code have to close the loot window? |
| 16:00.56 | dardack_ | cause sometimes items are left on the body |
| 16:01.03 | dardack_ | like you ahve an option |
| 16:01.09 | dardack_ | loot and delete blacklist, or leave on body |
| 16:02.29 | mckenziemc | actually Fisker |
| 16:02.37 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 16:02.38 | mckenziemc | i bet i could eat a whole space cow |
| 16:02.38 | Lunessa | And if you don't close a window, you can't open a new one. |
| 16:02.47 | bluspacecow | yet another cow dead down my mine shaft |
| 16:03.07 | dardack_ | i just put in a check if in combat to close lotowindow or not, which removes the taint, but the bug report the guy sent also has something else i can't replicate |
| 16:03.11 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:03.37 | Lunessa | Ahh... the old "Closed. CNR" |
| 16:05.13 | jnwhiteh | Adys: my pause-station is going to be amazing with pistons =) |
| 16:05.19 | Adys | hehe ya |
| 16:05.28 | Adys | pistons might be interesting for the subway |
| 16:05.32 | jnwhiteh | very |
| 16:05.36 | Adys | or maybe they wont be, im not sure really |
| 16:05.40 | Adys | since boosters are going to be gone |
| 16:05.42 | jnwhiteh | yeah depends on what they change |
| 16:05.50 | jnwhiteh | oh, they're killing boosters at the same time? |
| 16:05.55 | Adys | probably |
| 16:05.59 | dardack_ | ok lunessa can you explain why LootSlot(slotNumber) only complains about protectedness when only coin is on the body and in combat, if in combat and coin+items or just items it doesn't throw taint, but if only coin it throws taint |
| 16:06.23 | jnwhiteh | dardack_: because LootSlot() when you have coins and no items causes the LOOT_WINDOW_CLOSED event to fire |
| 16:06.29 | jnwhiteh | and it may be getting your taint |
| 16:06.37 | Lunessa | ^^ |
| 16:06.40 | jnwhiteh | its a weird instance of when an event can trigger while you are inside another event |
| 16:06.53 | dardack_ | is there a awy to fix it or no? |
| 16:06.59 | mckenziemc | because blizzard is craaaaazy |
| 16:07.01 | jnwhiteh | I don't know |
| 16:07.05 | jnwhiteh | it depends on the code after LootSlot() |
| 16:07.12 | jnwhiteh | if there's nothing there, it shouldn't be a problem |
| 16:07.21 | jnwhiteh | but I'm sure there is and that is what is causing the issue |
| 16:07.35 | dardack_ | it's called in a for loop looping through th eloot window |
| 16:07.42 | Fisker | oh my fucking god jnwhiteh |
| 16:07.45 | jnwhiteh | and what happens after the loop? |
| 16:07.52 | Fisker | an event within an event |
| 16:08.00 | Fisker | http://inception.davepedu.com/ |
| 16:08.18 | jnwhiteh | yo dog. |
| 16:09.12 | dardack_ | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/submit.php |
| 16:09.19 | jnwhiteh | dardack_: urlfail =) |
| 16:09.27 | dardack_ | yea i see |
| 16:09.32 | dardack_ | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/148867 |
| 16:09.45 | dardack_ | the local x = LWIW_LootThisItem(i) is a function that returns false since it's coin |
| 16:09.54 | Xinhuan | oh dear |
| 16:10.06 | Xinhuan | i found a mine entrance about 10 tiles away from my house |
| 16:10.20 | Xinhuan | and found a huge mining network + cave system connected to it |
| 16:10.22 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Full of zombies? |
| 16:10.29 | Xinhuan | its well lit |
| 16:10.32 | Xinhuan | so it only has some slimes |
| 16:10.42 | Xinhuan | but it appears to be cogwheel's mines? |
| 16:10.49 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: that's cog's |
| 16:11.04 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Or Yssaril's. |
| 16:11.05 | Xinhuan | i eventually reached a monster spawner + a train station that goes to the interlink with lots of pictures :P |
| 16:11.07 | Xinhuan | on the wall |
| 16:11.25 | Xinhuan | A t-junction says to yssaril (right) and interlink (left) |
| 16:11.26 | jnwhiteh | dardack_: your code assumes the window will be open after the items are looted |
| 16:11.28 | jnwhiteh | this is a false assumption |
| 16:11.33 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: yep, the interlink is the old system |
| 16:11.52 | jnwhiteh | dardack_: you calling CloseLoot() is the problem, I believe. |
| 16:11.57 | dardack_ | no |
| 16:11.57 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Yeah, that's Yssaril's mine I think - he's been playing on that server a long time. |
| 16:12.00 | jnwhiteh | as a result of LootSlot() |
| 16:12.03 | dardack_ | i fixed that taint with the if in combat |
| 16:12.09 | dardack_ | it doesn't try to close it anymore |
| 16:12.17 | jnwhiteh | okay, so what is the question? |
| 16:12.23 | Xinhuan | so i want to know who's mine it is! |
| 16:12.26 | Xinhuan | cog's or yss's |
| 16:12.40 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: if its up towards you, I'm certain its cog's |
| 16:12.57 | jnwhiteh | 55% |
| 16:12.59 | Xinhuan | well you see the huge square of mines west of my house on the cave map? |
| 16:13.10 | jnwhiteh | hrm, west of your house. |
| 16:13.12 | Xinhuan | that's the system with an exit right at my house |
| 16:13.46 | jnwhiteh | *that* is yss I believe |
| 16:14.01 | jnwhiteh | that northern line is his, the 'lava' line |
| 16:14.05 | jnwhiteh | since colors weren't good enough for him =) |
| 16:14.10 | dardack_ | jinwhiteh http://wowuidev.pastey.net/148869 is the function for looting coin to the line where if it's coin it returns to the first pasty |
| 16:14.18 | Lunessa | SO, if I buy Minecraft and I want to play on more than one system, do I need to buy multiple copies? |
| 16:14.31 | dardack_ | and it's the LootSlot(slotNumber) that is throwing the taint |
| 16:14.55 | dardack_ | but again only when looting coin only, if coin+items it loots fine, or just 1 item |
| 16:15.07 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: actually, that *might* be my mine. |
| 16:15.33 | Xinhuan | well do you remember digging a mine towards my house? heh |
| 16:15.58 | jnwhiteh | its tough to orient myself with the map |
| 16:16.10 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/feathermoon/everbloom/statistic level 85 with 0 kills and only 1 quest completed |
| 16:16.36 | jnwhiteh | dardack_: I'm not sure what to tell you, I'm fairly certain it has to do with the fact that LootSlot() is auto-closing the window |
| 16:16.39 | jnwhiteh | but I do not know what is happening. |
| 16:16.50 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: how... |
| 16:16.57 | Xinhuan | would it help if you saw the entrance? |
| 16:17.02 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: yes =) |
| 16:17.06 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: herbalism/mining/etc I would assume |
| 16:17.12 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353107047?page=1 |
| 16:17.13 | jnwhiteh | ah yeah |
| 16:17.18 | dardack_ | ok even tho i'm not calling close loot, it's still throwing error even tho it loots fine without taint if just 1 item or coins+item, it's only with only coins on the body |
| 16:17.46 | Torhal|work | Lunessa: No. You have a login/password for Mojang, |
| 16:18.06 | Torhal|work | So you just need one "copy" which you can put on several machine. |
| 16:18.09 | Torhal|work | +s |
| 16:18.18 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: let me hop on |
| 16:18.25 | jnwhiteh | i'll lower my view settings so it runs |
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| 16:18.56 | mckenziemc | idk how you would herb/mine/dig without killing anything though O.o |
| 16:19.30 | Ackis | mckenziemc: run after you agro? |
| 16:19.37 | Ackis | entangling roots? |
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| 16:20.19 | Lunessa | Torhal|work: Thanks |
| 16:20.19 | jnwhiteh | all you have to do is get flight form and its trivial =) |
| 16:20.38 | bluspacecow | dont think its mine either ... i have only dug a mine shaft ... no slimes or system of organisation yet |
| 16:20.39 | Ackis | this is impressive too: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kirin-tor/cautious/statistic#122 level 85 and 0 deaths |
| 16:23.55 | nebula169 | wonder if he has to leave the guild when he dies |
| 16:25.04 | bluspacecow | kk ni ni |
| 16:26.17 | DWSR | Ok. |
| 16:26.35 | DWSR | This Call to Arms nonsense, I'm going to sum this up. |
| 16:26.52 | DWSR | Whoever said you can't do heroics without DPS, you're ignorant. Geared tanks can solo trash pulls and bosses no healer. |
| 16:27.00 | DWSR | Whoever said you can't do heroics without DPS, you're ignorant. Geared tanks can solo trash pulls and bosses no healer. |
| 16:27.12 | DWSR | Whoever said you can't do heroics without a healer, you're ignorant. See a). |
| 16:27.21 | DWSR | Whoever said you can't do heroics without a tank, you're right. GG. |
| 16:27.31 | mckenziemc | and? |
| 16:28.01 | mckenziemc | can't qualify for CtA if you solo the place, unless you join a group and they all leave |
| 16:29.07 | DWSR | mckenziemc: My point is that people are complaining that the more under-represented role is getting additional incentive to go out and do the thing that no one else can. |
| 16:29.15 | DWSR | Their bitching is invalid. |
| 16:29.17 | DWSR | QED |
| 16:29.34 | DWSR | Besides, most of the time my DPS as a tank is beating all the actual DPS. |
| 16:29.38 | DWSR | like, fucking seriously? |
| 16:30.06 | DWSR | My 346 geared fucking Frost DK pulls like 15k in a heroic and some people I know can't manage 10k in 350. |
| 16:30.59 | DWSR | Tanks don't deserve to have extra loot. We deserve to have compensation for the fact that we are the single most important role in a group. It just happens to come in the form of extra loot. |
| 16:31.02 | nevcairiel | I used to beat the DPS while Tanking as tank. :P |
| 16:31.47 | DWSR | And people were bitching that you need healers to keep people alive. |
| 16:31.50 | DWSR | HAVE YOU SEEN A BLOOD DK LATELY? |
| 16:32.33 | nevcairiel | warriors still die pretty quickly without heal |
| 16:32.39 | DWSR | They're not real tanks. |
| 16:32.45 | DWSR | Sissy men hiding behind shields. |
| 16:32.45 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 16:32.54 | DWSR | /trolling |
| 16:33.23 | DWSR | Being a Blood DK is fucking hilarious. |
| 16:33.32 | DWSR | I can do a 1/5th of all healing in a BWD clear. |
| 16:33.38 | DWSR | a 1/5th. |
| 16:33.40 | DWSR | As a tank. |
| 16:33.57 | DWSR | lolchimeron? |
| 16:34.08 | DWSR | Yeah, I'm the double strike tank so I can do even moar heals. |
| 16:34.18 | DWSR | DOUBLE STRIKE, bam 40k Death Strike heal. |
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| 16:37.13 | DWSR | Fact: Tanks are gods. Everyone kneel before us. |
| 16:37.18 | DWSR | /trolling |
| 16:39.15 | ccox | rm -f dk_troll |
| 16:40.35 | dardack_ | i love my main Blood Dk tank, too bad the pvp side of blood dk's is being "fixed" gah i was OP in arena's |
| 16:41.17 | DWSR | dardack_: Fixed? |
| 16:41.41 | dardack_ | no more shields in unholy pres |
| 16:41.50 | dardack_ | with Dark Succor, 15% min healing with 15% shields |
| 16:41.53 | dardack_ | plus 1 GCD |
| 16:42.04 | DWSR | Yeah |
| 16:42.11 | DWSR | But you got slower rune regeneration. |
| 16:42.16 | dardack_ | yea, srsly my partner would die, and i would still win 1v2 |
| 16:42.21 | dardack_ | in unholy pres? |
| 16:42.23 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 16:42.27 | DWSR | Imp. BP gives you 20%. |
| 16:42.30 | DWSR | UH gives you 15%. |
| 16:43.19 | dardack_ | yea but a 1 sec GCD to 1.5, plus 15% heals to 7%? plus all my haste on my pvp gear, yea 2sec swings on a 3.6 sec weapon |
| 16:44.01 | dardack_ | so i'll take all that and give up 5% rune regen |
| 16:45.13 | DWSR | BP gives you increased armor (admittedly of lesser value), increase damage reduction, decreased chance to be crit. |
| 16:45.35 | dardack_ | jnwhiteh i changed my addon to if only coin just loot and return to event handler and i still get: 'LootWhatIWant' tried to call the protected function 'LootSlot()'. when only looting coin, if I loot anything else it's fine, srsly wtf |
| 16:45.51 | jnwhiteh | maybe protection has changed |
| 16:45.54 | jnwhiteh | I'm not entirely sure |
| 16:46.20 | dardack_ | yea i don't get it, just gonna tell the guy nothing I can do, just turn off bugsack grabbing taint messages |
| 16:46.36 | DWSR | You should fix taint. |
| 16:46.38 | DWSR | imo. |
| 16:47.12 | dardack_ | dwsr nothing I can do, if in combat and I loot, if there is anything besides just coin (1 item, coin+1 item, coin+multiple items, multiple items) no taint, as soon as I loot in combat with Just coin, it throws taint |
| 16:47.46 | DWSR | dardack_: Does it still function as expected? |
| 16:47.54 | dardack_ | yes the coin is looted |
| 16:48.22 | dardack_ | and obviously if i can loot other things, LootSlot isn't protected |
| 16:48.32 | dardack_ | but taint claims it is |
| 16:48.53 | DWSR | file a bug report. |
| 16:48.54 | jnwhiteh | Adys: Tile render took 2 hours 39 minutes 29 seconds |
| 16:49.19 | Adys | lol |
| 16:49.20 | Adys | nice |
| 16:49.25 | jnwhiteh | wow this works well |
| 16:49.26 | Adys | also jnwhiteh, water stairs! http://i.imgur.com/blxan.png |
| 16:49.50 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: I need a dump kpls :P |
| 16:50.47 | Adys | and |
| 16:50.48 | Adys | linkplx |
| 16:50.50 | haste | dardack_: afaik, that's a bug, it happens once in a while |
| 16:51.03 | dardack_ | so it's a known bug haste? |
| 16:51.13 | haste | I've experienced it myself |
| 16:51.31 | dardack_ | yea it only happens if only coin on the body, antying else or coin + anything else no taint |
| 16:51.33 | haste | I did think of a workaround for it, but I never implemented it because it wasn't much gain |
| 16:51.43 | Ackis | http://www.petitelapgiraffe.com/ hahah |
| 16:51.57 | jnwhiteh | Adys: oooh |
| 16:52.00 | jnwhiteh | how fast are they? |
| 16:52.03 | dardack_ | i couldn't find one, if my event handler detects loot opens, only calls lootslot(1) if coin and returns, still taitns |
| 16:52.12 | Adys | jnwhiteh: slow, unfortunately :( |
| 16:52.19 | Adys | but there has to be a better use case |
| 16:52.22 | jnwhiteh | Adys: we'll see how slow this is |
| 16:52.25 | jnwhiteh | i'm gonna ssh tunnel it |
| 16:52.28 | jnwhiteh | lulz. |
| 16:52.33 | Adys | not slow as in slow, but slightly slower than regular stairsw |
| 16:52.43 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 16:54.09 | haste | dardack_: I can see if I explained my workaround in the log |
| 16:54.37 | dardack_ | btw dwsr sorry I'll take the increase in DPS, Bigger heals, bigger shields over being in BP, I was able to 1v2 duo dps, dps+heals many times after they cc'd me and killed my ret pally partner, in our 13-0 this past week, i saved our 10-0 achievement 3 times surviving 1v2 and winning |
| 16:54.52 | dardack_ | DRW plus all HS's is amaging in UH pres |
| 16:54.52 | DWSR | lol |
| 16:54.57 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 16:54.57 | DWSR | It is. |
| 16:55.10 | haste | seems like I don't have it in my log anymore dardack_ |
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| 16:56.20 | dardack_ | it's ok haste, i'm just gonna tell the guy to either turn off bugsack picking up taint (only see it if you have an addon like bugsack and turn on taint/addon mistakes option) or ignore it |
| 16:56.27 | jnwhiteh | Adys: http://wowforge.com:12345/ |
| 16:56.51 | jnwhiteh | instantly regrets posting that link here instead of in PMs |
| 16:57.15 | jnwhiteh | I'll rsync it |
| 16:57.17 | jnwhiteh | maybe |
| 16:57.20 | jnwhiteh | i've removed that :P |
| 16:57.39 | haste | dardack_: looks like I've mainly seen it from CloseLoot(), not LootSlot() (even though I know people have reported that as well) |
| 16:58.03 | jnwhiteh | Adys: uhh |
| 16:58.09 | jnwhiteh | no way i can possibly upload this. |
| 16:58.10 | Adys | lol |
| 16:58.11 | jnwhiteh | 27 gigs. |
| 16:58.12 | dardack_ | ahh yea CloseLoot was too, ok |
| 16:58.15 | Adys | rofl |
| 16:59.23 | dardack_ | ok i'm gonna take out combat check then on closeloot, cause yea it only does it on coin only. |
| 16:59.39 | jnwhiteh | that's with many zoom levels, though |
| 17:00.22 | dardack_ | dwsr I know some guy was trying to become 2k rated just 1v2 as a blood dk, no idea if he managed it |
| 17:00.48 | DWSR | I think he did. |
| 17:00.58 | dardack_ | in 4.1 tho isn't DS dps getting a tad nerfed? i may go back to frost for my 2's, but might try a couple games as blood in blood pres and see hwo it goes |
| 17:01.39 | dardack_ | although so nerfed against mages as blood |
| 17:01.54 | Lunessa | OK... I should be afraid. I bought Minecraft just now. |
| 17:03.58 | Torhal|work | BWAH |
| 17:04.38 | Lunessa | Only, it doesn't seem to want to run in Chrome on Mac OSX 10.6.6 ? |
| 17:05.08 | mckenziemc | sounds like a good thing |
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| 17:07.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Yoshimo (~Miranda@p54998D0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:09.21 | Lunessa | And Firefox gives me a big white box. |
| 17:09.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Hexium (~Steven@88.135.250.104) |
| 17:10.19 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: use the download, not the browser |
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| 17:14.00 | Lunessa | Now I need cog|sleep to wake up. |
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| 17:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | That's what jnwhiteh said like... 3 hours agao! |
| 17:16.26 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: why do you needhim to wake? |
| 17:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | It has to run on a Mac browser, I think that's what jnwhiteh uses... |
| 17:16.36 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't need to run on a mac browser |
| 17:16.42 | jnwhiteh | there's a downloadable app that works fine |
| 17:16.52 | Lunessa | So he can whitelist me |
| 17:16.56 | jnwhiteh | I can whitelist you |
| 17:17.00 | jnwhiteh | just PM me the account name |
| 17:17.04 | jnwhiteh | and i'll give you the quick tour |
| 17:17.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, the sound of geeks enabling each other. *grin* |
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| 17:26.59 | DWSR | dardack_: DS is getting a bit of a nerf IIRC. |
| 17:27.13 | dardack_ | yea i thought so |
| 17:27.59 | DWSR | Not a DPS nerf. |
| 17:28.01 | DWSR | It's a threat nerf. |
| 17:28.07 | DWSR | The healing from DS is now threat-free. |
| 17:28.10 | DWSR | Which stinks. |
| 17:28.25 | DWSR | It was awesome to get a 30k crit + a 40k heal in threat. |
| 17:28.37 | DWSR | I used to get like 150k threat from a DS crit. |
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| 17:30.25 | Adys | [18:01:53] <Lunessa> OK... I should be afraid. I bought Minecraft just now. |
| 17:31.00 | Lunessa | Im wandering around looking at stuff now. |
| 17:31.08 | Adys | Apr 08 16:09:50 <Adys> hi lunessa, we'll see you in 1 hour, two tops |
| 17:31.17 | Adys | Do I win or what? |
| 17:31.55 | mckenziemc | no |
| 17:32.13 | DWSR | Are you a Blood DK? |
| 17:32.14 | Lunessa | I'll have to play with it more later, too much work to do now. |
| 17:35.08 | Lopeppeppy | Poor poor Lunessa. That's what boys always say! |
| 17:35.45 | alestane | Peppy must be feeling a *little* better. |
| 17:35.49 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Work is always too much... but for some things... *wink* |
| 17:38.00 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 17:38.17 | Lopeppeppy | alestane... don't be silly. My aspect ratio of perk to reality is pretty fluid. |
| 17:38.30 | Adys | that's what girls always say |
| 17:38.57 | alestane | enjoys Peppy being fluid. |
| 17:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 17:39.48 | Lunessa | alestane: I think the fluid is supposed to go in or on... |
| 17:44.06 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 17:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate sauce. |
| 17:44.17 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 17:44.43 | Adys | Arrowmaster: any other tool than iotop to monitor hd activity? |
| 17:44.50 | Adys | i see the same issue as this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3112237.0 |
| 17:44.56 | Adys | on an external hd |
| 17:45.39 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 17:46.25 | alestane | gives Lopeppeppy a warm chocolate massage. |
| 17:46.38 | alestane | Where's Cairenn|afk when you need another pair of hands? |
| 17:47.17 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 17:48.39 | Lopeppeppy | That's my line, alestane. |
| 17:49.08 | alestane | Whoever's line you want to be, darling. |
| 17:51.39 | mckenziemc | curves > lines |
| 17:53.37 | Lopeppeppy | Ask. I possess the curves. |
| 17:54.36 | ckknight | don't let Lopeppeppy use her feminine charms to entrance you! |
| 17:54.42 | ckknight | I've fallen for that one too many times |
| 17:55.08 | mckenziemc | zug zug |
| 17:55.24 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:55.26 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:57.14 | Arrowmaster | where the hell is ackis, i need somebody to get halo wars achievements with |
| 17:58.00 | Fisker | sounds like you're cheating Arrowmaster |
| 17:58.26 | mckenziemc | sounds like you're Fisker Fisker |
| 17:59.01 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I'm here |
| 17:59.02 | Fisker | i'm you mckenziemc |
| 17:59.02 | Arrowmaster | help help im being fiskered |
| 17:59.05 | Fisker | hey Ackisi |
| 17:59.10 | Fisker | i did something bad :( |
| 17:59.11 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Is that like being repressed? |
| 17:59.15 | Fisker | pretty much had a free gaem |
| 17:59.20 | Fisker | but i forgot about you :< |
| 17:59.24 | Ackis | wow Fisker |
| 17:59.25 | Ackis | :'( |
| 17:59.31 | Fisker | unless you had revenge of the titans already |
| 17:59.33 | alestane | Curves are yet another thing that make Peppy excellent. |
| 17:59.36 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: we can do some halo wars this weekend |
| 17:59.36 | Lunessa | All the strange shit happens on Friday. |
| 17:59.36 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: want to do easy halo wars online achievements? |
| 17:59.41 | Ackis | Fisker: I have it already I think |
| 17:59.51 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I'm at work right now |
| 17:59.54 | mckenziemc | lol lunessa |
| 18:00.09 | Ackis | come up with a plan Arrowmaster and we can hammer them out on the weekend/tonight? |
| 18:00.28 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: bah im trying to get 13 more achievements for my 80% completion percentage goal right now so i can start some new games |
| 18:00.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:00.39 | alestane | You make the lock scared, Lunessa. |
| 18:00.59 | Lunessa | I am pretty frightening. |
| 18:02.08 | Arrowmaster | so far this month ive completed 4 games i slacking on finishing |
| 18:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | awww, poor ckknight. |
| 18:02.29 | Ackis | I haven't really played much since cata came out :'( |
| 18:02.55 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: did you get the halo wars dlc last week? |
| 18:02.57 | Lunessa | And I haven't played much else since Cataclysm came out. |
| 18:02.58 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:03.10 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: already had it |
| 18:04.07 | Ackis | http://www.trueachievements.com/comparison.aspx?gameid=1884&friendid=70055&gamerid=70054 |
| 18:05.25 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: yeah i need all those easy ones like doing specific things on specific maps |
| 18:05.36 | Ackis | you can do them solo |
| 18:05.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 18:05.48 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 18:05.55 | Arrowmaster | how long do they take? |
| 18:06.01 | Ackis | not very long |
| 18:06.11 | Ackis | only ones that require you to play against someone are the ones I don't have |
| 18:06.24 | Adys | Arrowmaster: its definitely journaling. any idea how to find out what would trigger journaling on my external hd? |
| 18:06.27 | Adys | its supposed to be idle |
| 18:07.07 | DWSR | Adys: Windows never lets your disks idle. |
| 18:07.17 | Adys | and that helps me how? |
| 18:11.01 | mckenziemc | DWSR: i don't think he's on Windows |
| 18:20.17 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2011/04/revolt-over-godaddy-ceos-elephant-kill-video-makes-20433-flee-rival-claims.html |
| 18:21.14 | Lunessa | Work is pissing me the hell off today. |
| 18:21.58 | mckenziemc | :( |
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| 18:25.07 | Lopeppeppy | Nuke 'em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. |
| 18:27.08 | Lunessa | No kidding. Everyone bailed before I got to go to lunch. Now I'm the only one here and can't leave. |
| 18:27.32 | Lopeppeppy | F that. Someone is gonna get their eyeballs fried when they get back. |
| 18:28.45 | Lunessa | Everyone left while I was on a long call (45 minutes trying to fix a stupid print service that was crashing for reasons unknown) and now I'm the only one here until 5pm. FML |
| 18:29.30 | Fisker | you must be on something DWSR |
| 18:29.45 | DWSR | Fisker: ? |
| 18:29.53 | Fisker | [20:06:58] <DWSR> Adys: Windows never lets your disks idle. |
| 18:29.57 | Ackis | Lunessa: would it upset you if I told you I was going home early too? |
| 18:30.07 | Lunessa | FUUUUUUU |
| 18:30.50 | alestane | They're all gone for the day and they didn't at least get you lunch? |
| 18:31.15 | alestane | My character is straying further and further from the path picking wildflowers. |
| 18:31.27 | alestane | I might be worried that she'd meet a wolf... |
| 18:31.30 | Ackis | alestane: you're trying to level w/o killing anything? |
| 18:31.35 | alestane | ...except that she IS a wolf. |
| 18:31.39 | Fisker | hello alestane |
| 18:31.44 | Fisker | i would destroy you for your life force |
| 18:31.47 | alestane | No, just flowers kept popping up on my radat. |
| 18:31.50 | alestane | radar* |
| 18:32.10 | alestane | It would make you ill, Fisker, you're better off. |
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| 18:32.38 | Fisker | i'm pretty sick already |
| 18:33.15 | airtonix | explain |
| 18:33.20 | Lunessa | alestane: That's correct, the bastards all left for the day before I got to go get lunch, and they didn't bring me lunch. Normally I wouldn't complain, but I'm starving. |
| 18:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | Someone's gonna dddddiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. |
| 18:33.48 | Fisker | me? |
| 18:33.57 | nevcairiel | so leave the phone alone for half an hour and go eat something |
| 18:34.22 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:34.24 | Fisker | i ate something |
| 18:34.31 | Ackis | ouch shadow priests just got nerfed |
| 18:34.33 | Ackis | :'( |
| 18:34.34 | alestane | Why are you the only one there from lunch until 5? |
| 18:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | Because it's a warm spring Friday afternoon, and the fucktards abandoned him. |
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| 18:35.37 | Lopeppeppy | Soul-less corporate zombies who deserve to meet their Zombieland fate! |
| 18:35.45 | mckenziemc | say you had to close up early because of an emergency |
| 18:35.48 | nevcairiel | A rule of the last one to leave gets blamed for abanding ship is really stupid |
| 18:36.00 | nevcairiel | abandoning* |
| 18:36.10 | airtonix | claim rule 34 |
| 18:36.17 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa is more important to me than a boat. |
| 18:36.45 | mckenziemc | dunno, i think i'd rather have the boat |
| 18:36.52 | nevcairiel | So if i sneak out early, someone else has to stay in until 5 all alone? doesnt every one try to run out then? :p |
| 18:37.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, I'd like a boat too, but I'd settle for lunch. |
| 18:37.29 | mckenziemc | what about... lunch on a boat? |
| 18:37.43 | Lunessa | with hot girls bringing me food and booze? |
| 18:38.08 | DWSR | I'M ON A BOAT |
| 18:38.13 | DWSR | sorry. |
| 18:38.43 | Lopeppeppy | Look at me. Now look at you. Look at me again. I'm on a ship. It's better than your boat. |
| 18:38.55 | Lunessa | dooo -dooo ---dooot doot tooot doot |
| 18:39.00 | airtonix | now fire ze missles |
| 18:40.43 | alestane | Can you at least order in or something? |
| 18:41.14 | mckenziemc | the boat can even be (forcibly) brought inside the building if you wish |
| 18:41.34 | Lopeppeppy | Do not tempt me to drive a ship down main street. |
| 18:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | A boat would never crash far enough into his building. |
| 18:41.56 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 18:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | knows the difference, kthx. |
| 18:42.43 | airtonix | you do ? |
| 18:43.10 | airtonix | could you teach me ? |
| 18:43.40 | mckenziemc | no |
| 18:44.58 | alestane | YOu can hoist a boat onto the deck of a ship. |
| 18:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | Educate yourself. http://tinyurl.com/682vb44 |
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| 18:45.44 | mckenziemc | you're the one who changed it from a ship to a boat in the first place |
| 18:45.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I was being deliberately insulting. :) |
| 18:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | My ship is better than your boat. |
| 18:47.03 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has their geekery, mine is language-based. |
| 18:49.57 | airtonix | I hope you stand with me in destroying all those who say please instead of please |
| 18:50.02 | airtonix | wtf |
| 18:50.09 | airtonix | murders pidgin |
| 18:50.17 | airtonix | :< |
| 18:50.42 | Lopeppeppy | offers up Trillian. |
| 18:51.04 | mckenziemc | nothx |
| 18:51.04 | airtonix | no |
| 18:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | Well, then give your pidgeons some CPR. |
| 18:58.16 | alestane | Conundrum: Why is a group that calls itself the National Organization for Marriage wholly dedicated to stopping people from getting married? |
| 18:59.05 | nevcairiel | stopping all people? |
| 18:59.17 | alestane | No, just the people they don't want to get married. |
| 18:59.31 | nevcairiel | figures |
| 18:59.43 | nevcairiel | probably some religious nutjobs |
| 19:01.05 | alestane | Not everyone who is uneasy about "non-traditional" marriage is necessarily a Christian (or any other faith), although the most common defense for that intolerance does seem to claim its roots in scripture. |
| 19:01.10 | Lopeppeppy | Naming an organization as "against" anything makes it a pretty easy standing duck. Saying that it is "for" something starts it off in a positive light. |
| 19:02.13 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: s/standing/sitting/? |
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| 19:02.56 | alestane | A brief overview of their website suggests that their official position is that if the "American Majority" want to block any particular sort of marriage, that's their civil and democratic right, so they're out to declare that any movement to mandate recognition of other marriages is an infringement of their democratic freedoms. |
| 19:03.02 | Lopeppeppy | Meh... probably. I'm really only pretending to have a brain today, I'm surprised that's my first real flub. |
| 19:03.05 | airtonix | alestane: sounds hilarious |
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| 19:03.31 | alestane | I see no real reason to keep reading. I just like the irony of their name. |
| 19:05.24 | airtonix | your initial conundrum reminds me of some discworld cults |
| 19:05.55 | Lopeppeppy | Discworld is just a little slice of how our own world is messed up. |
| 19:09.44 | alestane | This is actually a really hopeful article if he stands behind it: http://louisjmarinelli.com/politics/i-now-support-full-marriage-equality |
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| 19:10.53 | airtonix | I'm unimpressed with apple |
| 19:11.02 | airtonix | s |
| 19:11.20 | alestane | No-one demands that you be impressed by them. |
| 19:11.51 | airtonix | I thought they would be nice and crunchy |
| 19:12.13 | airtonix | except it's dissapointingly fluffy |
| 19:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | Out of season apples can have varied and "interesting" textures. |
| 19:14.46 | airtonix | :< |
| 19:16.25 | airtonix | I've been using my ipod hard drive with one of these [ http://store.era-ele.com/ziflif-ce-18-hdd-to-serialata-sata-hdd-adapter-p-251.html ] for the last 6months... the drive seems to have decided to die today. |
| 19:18.09 | airtonix | too fluffy maybe |
| 19:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | I look at some of these course descriptions and there's no wonder why students don't sign up for them, and they fall out of use. "Are any of these existing frameworks adequate to yield a veridical implementation of mind?" |
| 19:18.37 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: can you speak english please? |
| 19:19.00 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I said when I was line editing that sentence. I had to decide if he was talking about something truthful, or something green... |
| 19:19.41 | Lopeppeppy | This is a line from a FRESHMAN seminar description. *boggle* |
| 19:20.22 | airtonix | designed to masturbate the ego of any under-graduate with grandiose designs |
| 19:21.58 | Lopeppeppy | a clever neuropsych prof who doesn't want to lecture frosh sheeple, and so creates a course description so bizzare and unfathomable as to attract nobody. He did his part, drafting a course... not his fault nobody wants to take his esoteric crap! |
| 19:22.25 | airtonix | except the mass murderers |
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| 19:22.47 | airtonix | the only participants will be the fbi and fisker |
| 19:24.40 | Kraps | hah http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pain_rating.png |
| 19:24.57 | airtonix | you decided that was relevant? |
| 19:25.40 | Lopeppeppy | Yes... it's pretty relevant to some people's interests. :) |
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| 19:26.05 | Kraps | you talkin to me airtonix? |
| 19:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | sudo make me a Burrough's Irrelevancy Engine. |
| 19:28.51 | karl_w_w | with addonloader is it possible to give one delayed addon priority over the others? |
| 19:29.34 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 19:29.37 | Fisker | want to make out? |
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| 19:34.54 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy That is one sexy course description! |
| 19:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | That's just the most juicy sentence, Nechckn. I pity the fool who takes one of his courses. |
| 19:41.44 | DWSR | Do DKs still get parry from strength? |
| 19:43.33 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: hoho |
| 19:44.31 | Kraps | no Fisker |
| 19:48.58 | Kraps | oh you japan http://kotaku.com/#!5790124/the-game-in-which-a-little-man-climbs-on-big-girls-bodies |
| 19:50.46 | airtonix | Fisker: you know what's hilarious about star trek? |
| 19:52.28 | TC-Laptop | the jokes? |
| 19:53.48 | airtonix | no but funny you should answer |
| 19:54.46 | airtonix | there is some clear discrepancies with their computer interface designs. |
| 19:55.09 | Kraps | nerd |
| 19:56.20 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/147205 |
| 19:56.39 | airtonix | clearly they didn't get past the commodore64 stage |
| 19:57.09 | airtonix | or is that some kind of toy from toys-r-us |
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| 19:58.15 | airtonix | what's even more awesome is the keyboard on that thing |
| 19:58.22 | airtonix | only three buttons lol |
| 19:58.37 | airtonix | must be made by apple |
| 19:58.38 | Ackis | http://io9.com/#!5789748/10-scifi-films-that-are-better-than-serenity-and-empire-strikes-back |
| 19:59.28 | DWSR | I fucking hate gawker's new site. |
| 19:59.39 | DWSR | I alwaus get thje index page whenever I get directly linked to an article. |
| 19:59.47 | airtonix | what? children of men??!?!?!?!? WTF LAWL |
| 20:00.10 | airtonix | they didn't even list Dune |
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| 20:01.57 | foxlit | javascript, DWSR? |
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| 20:02.20 | foxlit | [or site localization?] |
| 20:03.32 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss bye bye. |
| 20:04.33 | DWSR | foxlit: What do you mean? |
| 20:04.39 | DWSR | Might be sit e |
| 20:04.42 | DWSR | site localization |
| 20:04.47 | DWSR | since I'm browsing from canada |
| 20:04.55 | foxlit | They have region specific versions for some countries. |
| 20:04.55 | DWSR | yeah |
| 20:04.56 | DWSR | it is |
| 20:05.10 | DWSR | I get redirected, and then instead of the article page I get the index. |
| 20:05.15 | foxlit | That'd be that. It's a stupid ip-based redirect. |
| 20:05.17 | DWSR | Yes |
| 20:05.24 | DWSR | It's fucking irritating as balls. |
| 20:05.30 | DWSR | And I love Lifehacker. |
| 20:05.43 | foxlit | [frankly, the behavior should be illegal; sniff the language headers if you have to] |
| 20:06.36 | DWSR | also |
| 20:06.40 | Ackis | DWSR: it happens to me too, but today it stopped after visiting io9 for the first time (aka second direct link worked) |
| 20:06.53 | DWSR | Anyone here have performance issues with applications that are built on WPF or Silverlight? |
| 20:06.58 | DWSR | Like, jesus fucking christ. |
| 20:07.05 | DWSR | It's like watching paint dry when I try to use Rawr now. |
| 20:07.11 | foxlit | That plugin is not installed. |
| 20:07.13 | DWSR | Ackis: You in Canada? |
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| 20:08.38 | Ackis | yup |
| 20:08.48 | DWSR | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:16.25 | olafski | ackis y u no respond to my message |
| 20:19.51 | Dewin | People who are going to write bad reviews out of spite really ought to know what they're writing reviews for. "Cons: [...] started making audible spin up sounds and hanging for several seconds." on a SSD review. |
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| 20:25.47 | haste | SSDs -- filled with moving mechanical parts! |
| 20:25.53 | Ackis | olafski: I keep forgetting |
| 20:26.19 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:27.00 | Dewin | Yeah, I'm looking into an 80 GB SSD for WOW. Well, really 64GB would be fine but I've heard mixed reports from any of the non-Intel ones and I don't see an Intel one at that size range. |
| 20:27.14 | Dewin | I'd do 40GB but my OS + WoW directory are already above that. |
| 20:27.25 | Ackis | olafski: yeah I read those :D and I responded |
| 20:28.36 | Dewin | The kicker is I have to buy two since I'd be updating my wife's PC as well. |
| 20:28.46 | kraftman | i got an intel 160, runs pretty nice |
| 20:29.03 | kraftman | but i guess its out of date now :/ |
| 20:29.04 | foxlit | Bought a second one for a PTR install. |
| 20:29.12 | foxlit | Resource extraction was taking too damn long :( |
| 20:29.26 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:30.10 | Dewin | well, my plan is to have the SSD + a ~1TB mirror, and the mirror will have space set aside to diskimage the SSD's contents so it's backed up as well. |
| 20:30.31 | kraftman | personal experience go fro intel over OCZ |
| 20:30.40 | kraftman | but i might have just been unlucky with my drive |
| 20:30.44 | Dewin | Yeah, I've heard a lot of bad stuff about OCZ drive failures. |
| 20:30.50 | Lunessa | I have WoW on a 40GB SSD. I'm going to get another one for toher stuff later. |
| 20:31.01 | Dewin | Lunessa: Just WoW? |
| 20:31.08 | Lunessa | Just WoW. For now. |
| 20:31.20 | zenzelezz | you don't really need SSD for porn |
| 20:31.29 | nevcairiel | but it opens faster |
| 20:31.30 | Lunessa | ^^ |
| 20:31.58 | Dewin | I was planning on the OS, WoW, and probably stuff like Firefox, various dev tools, etc. |
| 20:32.13 | zenzelezz | the disk I/O isn't the problem when you're loading it over a regular 100 MBit network |
| 20:32.15 | Lunessa | Yeah, WoW will eat up 20 gigs pretty fast though. |
| 20:32.25 | Dewin | My WoW directory is 30GB |
| 20:32.26 | nevcairiel | I have a 256gb SSD for my OS, all applications, and 2-3 games or so |
| 20:32.31 | nevcairiel | i use about 60% now |
| 20:32.33 | Dewin | So I'm figuring 80GB gives me about ~30GB of buffer to play with after WoW and OS |
| 20:32.43 | kraftman | is there a function to check wether ur in range of the guild bank? |
| 20:32.46 | kraftman | i cant find it |
| 20:32.49 | nevcairiel | You should avoid filling the drive up completly |
| 20:32.54 | Lunessa | And my OS install + "must have" apps is another 35-ish gigs. |
| 20:32.57 | nevcairiel | that will kill its ability to be smart about block allocations |
| 20:33.14 | Dewin | I don't plan on using the full amount of buffer, I just want to be futureproof. |
| 20:33.15 | Lunessa | So I would consider putting my OS on it's own 40gb SSD. |
| 20:33.41 | Dewin | What'd be nice is if I could symlink across partitions |
| 20:33.57 | nevcairiel | you can mount a drive as a subdirectory |
| 20:34.00 | nevcairiel | if that helps anything |
| 20:34.09 | Dewin | Yeah, but I can't mount a subdirectory of that drive as a subdirectory |
| 20:35.31 | nevcairiel | a NTFS symlink should support non-local targets |
| 20:35.48 | Dewin | Do they? Hmm, I'll have to play with that then |
| 20:36.00 | nevcairiel | mklink /D link target |
| 20:36.34 | nevcairiel | needs UAC elevation for some arcane reason |
| 20:36.53 | Dewin | Idea being that if I want to have something on the SSD, I can just copy that folder over,delete the originl folder and then replace it with a link to the appropriate SSD folder -- without having to do anything else at all. |
| 20:37.11 | nevcairiel | C:\Games>mklink /D D D:\ |
| 20:37.11 | nevcairiel | symbolic link created for D <<===>> D:\ |
| 20:37.13 | nevcairiel | it works ^ |
| 20:37.34 | Dewin | awesome. |
| 20:38.12 | nevcairiel | heh, can even link onto network drives |
| 20:38.16 | DWSR | nevcairiel: yes |
| 20:38.22 | Dewin | that seems failure-prone. |
| 20:38.26 | DWSR | why wouldn't you use a reparse though? |
| 20:38.44 | nevcairiel | what |
| 20:38.52 | DWSR | reparse point |
| 20:38.58 | DWSR | Mount the drive as a folder. |
| 20:39.15 | Dewin | DWSR: Because I don't want to have the entire drive mounted there, just a subset of it |
| 20:39.32 | DWSR | Dewin: Ah. nevcairiel sym'd the root. |
| 20:39.52 | nevcairiel | just to show that it works between different file systems |
| 20:40.02 | DWSR | between different drive |
| 20:40.03 | DWSR | drives* |
| 20:40.08 | DWSR | I think both FS need to be NTFS. |
| 20:41.03 | nevcairiel | A file system in this context is not the type of file system, its the actual file system stored in the partition |
| 20:41.11 | DWSR | ah |
| 20:41.12 | DWSR | then yes |
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| 20:42.09 | DWSR | I think you meant storage mediums? |
| 20:42.14 | DWSR | whatever |
| 20:46.15 | Fisker | jey jnwhiteh |
| 20:46.24 | Fisker | with and h instead of a j |
| 20:46.30 | Fisker | and no it's not hnwhiteh |
| 20:47.08 | Fisker | http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/MOTOROLA-XOOM-3G-PLUS-WI-FI-TABLET/HANDSET |
| 20:47.11 | Fisker | do it jnwhiteh |
| 20:59.10 | Fisker | what if i have to pee Thrae ? |
| 21:02.53 | kraftman | is there a way to check if the guild bank is in range? |
| 21:03.19 | alestane | Is in range of what? Close enough for your character to open? |
| 21:03.46 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp8AzHIC0hM |
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| 21:05.23 | alestane | Afternoon, Cairenn. You missed the chocolate massage. |
| 21:05.37 | Cairenn | I saw |
| 21:10.50 | cog|sleep | hehe... "The anti-annoying, anti-expensive, anti-virus program" (re: MSSE) |
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| 21:14.10 | kraftman | alestane: yup |
| 21:14.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 21:14.35 | alestane | There's no real way to know about the locations of any world objects. |
| 21:15.04 | alestane | At least programmatically, which is what I presume you to have meant. |
| 21:15.17 | Ackis | this is amusing: http://www.break.com/index/snake-vs-cat-tail-2035745 it's a snake attacking a cats tail (tiny snake) -> no animals are harmed in the video |
| 21:15.40 | kraftman | so if i force show the guild bank, how does it knwo that it cant get the guild bank info from the server? |
| 21:16.05 | kraftman | Maybe im phrasing my question wrong |
| 21:16.18 | DWSR | you're not. |
| 21:16.21 | DWSR | What you're asking is not possible. |
| 21:16.26 | alestane | You can force show the frame, but that doesn't open the guild bank. |
| 21:16.29 | DWSR | you need to cache the information from the giuld bank. |
| 21:17.51 | Kraps | huh http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/the-best-ipod-touch-games/15/ |
| 21:17.58 | kraftman | I want to show the guild bank away from the guild bank, so i need to know if they can actually pull the item data from the server, or if i need to populate it from my own saved table |
| 21:18.45 | alestane | YOu can only get up-to-date info about the guild bank's contents when your character is interacting with a guild bank. |
| 21:19.34 | kraftman | so would QueryGuildBankTab return nil when im not interacting ? |
| 21:19.49 | alestane | !api QueryGuildBankTab |
| 21:19.50 | lua_bot | QueryGuildBankTab: Requests information about the contents of a guild bank tab from the server (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/QueryGuildBankTab) |
| 21:21.03 | alestane | Most likely. I think it's assumed that Guild Bank functions don't function as expected when the guild bank isn't open. |
| 21:21.28 | alestane | There are relevant events as well, as alluded to in that entry. |
| 21:21.37 | kraftman | Yeh i just need to find something that can tell me if access is possible |
| 21:22.06 | DWSR | You can't pull information about the guild bank from the server unless your character is accessing the gbank. |
| 21:22.14 | DWSR | So, if you're trying to do what you say, you need to build your own table |
| 21:22.24 | airtonix | with wood? |
| 21:22.36 | airtonix | gogo libWood |
| 21:22.39 | kraftman | i have my own table |
| 21:22.46 | alestane | !api GUILDBANKFRAME |
| 21:22.46 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'GUILDBANKFRAME': CloseGuildBankFrame, GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED, GUILDBANKFRAME_CLOSED |
| 21:23.02 | alestane | Those events are probably your best bet for tracking that. |
| 21:23.25 | kraftman | when the playe ropens the guidl bank, i store all the items to a table |
| 21:23.38 | kraftman | player opens* |
| 21:24.03 | kraftman | !api GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED |
| 21:24.03 | lua_bot | GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED: Fires when the player begins interaction with the guild bank (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED) |
| 21:24.20 | kraftman | does that include force showing the guild bank though? |
| 21:24.36 | alestane | "Fires when the player begins interaction with the guild bank" |
| 21:24.49 | kraftman | which could mean clicking on the guild bank in game |
| 21:24.55 | foxlit | SC2 is like an exercise in bad UI design |
| 21:25.04 | kraftman | rather than /run GuildBankFrame:Show() i assume |
| 21:25.36 | alestane | Showing a frame is a purely UI event that does not fire client events. |
| 21:25.45 | airtonix | Fisker: did I scare you |
| 21:26.35 | kraftman | but clicking on the guild bank may cause somethign that isnt to do with the interface but then fires and event which causes the bank to load and show? |
| 21:27.23 | kraftman | nvm i think i'll try thinking about this again while sober |
| 21:27.36 | alestane | That *might* help a bit. |
| 21:29.04 | kraftman | i guess my problem was that if i rely on the user clicking a button i provide them to open the faux guild bank frame i create, they may actually also be in range of accessing the real guild bank |
| 21:29.05 | nevcairiel | Its all about the balmer peak |
| 21:30.05 | alestane | It's up to them, then, isn't it, to notice that the real bank with up-to-date information is less than two meters away? |
| 21:34.31 | kraftman | yeh true |
| 21:34.40 | kraftman | thinking too hard about all options i guess |
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| 21:43.26 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPAy8fezGd0 < LOL |
| 21:44.28 | olafski | ackis: GOOD |
| 21:47.25 | Ackis | A-KO: haha linked that on guild forums |
| 21:47.41 | A-KO | Ackis: it's comedy gold IMO |
| 21:47.53 | Ackis | is that the girl from tankspot? |
| 21:47.59 | A-KO | no, but it sounds like it |
| 21:48.17 | A-KO | or it might be |
| 21:50.33 | DWSR | It's not Aliena. |
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| 21:53.20 | Ackis | olafski: what's good for? |
| 21:53.21 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:53.23 | Ackis | are you mad at me? |
| 21:57.38 | cogwheel | PProvost: do you ever run into Erik Meijer? |
| 21:58.11 | PProvost | Not in a while. I do know him though. Why? |
| 21:59.25 | cogwheel | i'm a bit of a fanboi ;) i loved his series on haskell (esp. the T-Shirts) and now the SQL vs. NoSQL thing... /mancrush |
| 22:01.37 | PProvost | He's a super-genius |
| 22:01.42 | PProvost | :D |
| 22:01.49 | cogwheel | indeed :) |
| 22:02.06 | PProvost | He's one of those guys who basically gets to do whatever he wants. |
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| 22:14.20 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:14.42 | cogwheel | yay more fish |
| 22:15.12 | alestane | "Dear God, Kass, don't make me ban you." |
| 22:28.36 | Adys | cogwheel! |
| 22:28.39 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/blxan.png |
| 22:28.41 | Adys | find a use for them |
| 22:28.41 | Adys | :( |
| 22:29.05 | cogwheel | wat? |
| 22:29.10 | Adys | waterstairs |
| 22:29.22 | Cide | why would there be a use? :P |
| 22:29.25 | cogwheel | i see that :P |
| 22:29.33 | Adys | i dunno, because they're pretty useless |
| 22:29.35 | Adys | but kinda cool too |
| 22:29.42 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 22:29.58 | cogwheel | do you go up any faster than steps? |
| 22:30.04 | Adys | slightly slower |
| 22:30.11 | Cide | doubly worthless |
| 22:30.14 | Adys | exactly |
| 22:30.17 | Adys | but they're still cool |
| 22:30.18 | Adys | =( |
| 22:30.29 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 22:32.17 | Jamash | HAI GUISE |
| 22:32.56 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:32.56 | cogwheel | OHAI |
| 22:33.15 | Jamash | Fisker, what did the PTR say to the tester? |
| 22:33.45 | Fisker | it's over 9000 |
| 22:33.58 | Jamash | "Your WoW installation is corrupted, please run Repair.exe" |
| 22:34.11 | Fisker | and there is no repair |
| 22:34.13 | Fisker | i know |
| 22:34.13 | Fisker | old |
| 22:34.20 | Jamash | what the fffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 22:37.01 | Fisker | it burns when i pvp Jamash |
| 22:37.13 | cogwheel | Fisker: do you have 7000 unread e-mails in your gmail acct? |
| 22:37.18 | Jamash | that is a new and original joke that I have not heard before Fisker |
| 22:37.40 | Fisker | more like 25000 cogwheel |
| 22:37.41 | Fisker | why? |
| 22:37.55 | Fisker | it's a true story Jamash |
| 22:38.35 | Fisker | anyway get this |
| 22:38.42 | Jamash | I mean, there are only 86 US guilds and 155 arena teams with that name |
| 22:38.53 | Fisker | apparently Blizzard is repulsive because their subscription is automatically renewing |
| 22:39.15 | Corrodias | hahah, to whom? |
| 22:39.22 | Jamash | I think someone is unclear on the definition of the word "subscription" |
| 22:39.54 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1951295290 |
| 22:39.56 | kraftman | how do you guys manage your change list/todo/future ideas etc? My addon is getting a lot larger than originaly anticipated. |
| 22:40.04 | Jamash | kraftman: poorly |
| 22:40.18 | Jamash | kraftman: I have a text file that I ramble in |
| 22:40.26 | Fisker | it's easy kraftman |
| 22:40.39 | Fisker | just outpace the amount of todos by implementations |
| 22:40.55 | Jamash | Fisker: lololololol |
| 22:41.07 | Fisker | inorite? |
| 22:41.49 | Jamash | so uh is there any way to get the ptr to finish patching? |
| 22:43.55 | kraftman | hehe |
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| 22:50.18 | foxlit | Jamash: time. |
| 22:51.10 | Jamash | Time passes... |
| 22:54.37 | cogwheel | Jamash: gas. |
| 22:54.44 | Adys | cogwheel, jnwhiteh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-Gq6Aj_No |
| 22:54.44 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:55.08 | cogwheel | mikma: next time you do stuff like that wait until im home so i can get it on FRAPS :P |
| 22:55.44 | cogwheel | (i know... my fault for not playing enough) |
| 22:56.10 | Jamash | next: lavastairs |
| 22:56.20 | Adys | Jamash: thats a great idea |
| 22:57.13 | Jamash | By reading this suggestion, you agree that Jamash AddOns and Huntering Inc bears no liability for damage incurred due to lavastairs. |
| 22:58.22 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 22:58.27 | Fisker | why does germany have sandstorms again? |
| 22:59.13 | *** part/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:59.36 | Fisker | umad? |
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| 23:00.16 | mikma | cogwheel: meh, it was an accident! |
| 23:00.20 | cogwheel | :P |
| 23:00.24 | Jamash | Because someone forgot to disable weather |
| 23:00.36 | mikma | cogwheel: i was trying to fill my lava-pool but i forgot to add the bottom in it (2x2) |
| 23:00.40 | cogwheel | it was pretty epic. i hope you were LOLing the whole time :P |
| 23:00.47 | mikma | cogwheel: so the lava went straight through :P |
| 23:00.55 | Fisker | IRC is like 2 boats Jamash |
| 23:01.00 | Jamash | what was under the lava pool mikma? |
| 23:01.05 | mikma | no, i wasn't. i was like "SHIT GUYS, ZE FOREST, IS BURNING!" |
| 23:01.14 | Jamash | lololololol |
| 23:01.16 | mikma | jamash: extremely high tower |
| 23:01.27 | Fisker | we should get sandstorms in Minecraft |
| 23:01.30 | Jamash | remember kids, smokey the creeper says only you can cause forest fires |
| 23:01.31 | cogwheel | mrs cog texted me "have you been paying attention to minecraft chat?" and i logged into the server to see it at ~75%cpu |
| 23:01.35 | cogwheel | >< |
| 23:01.35 | Fisker | Notch already said that deserts have no weather effect |
| 23:01.49 | cogwheel | (usually it's <30%) |
| 23:02.08 | cogwheel | Jamash: somkey lies! |
| 23:02.21 | cogwheel | he's obviously never seen a spontaneous lava-induced fire :P |
| 23:02.50 | mikma | imagine my horror when i noticed that there's no bottom in the glasspool and the lava went right through it and started to rally down the walls of the tower |
| 23:03.07 | mikma | and of course it covered the ONLY way i had down so i could go down and stop the lava |
| 23:03.15 | Jamash | the towering inferno 2: minecraft |
| 23:03.57 | mikma | http://cogwheel.info/minecraft/cogwheel-flat-2011-04-08-11h04.png <- there WAS a thick forest left of my "LOL!" |
| 23:04.16 | mikma | cog snapped the images in middle of the forestfire, you can see the trees burning there |
| 23:04.29 | mikma | http://cogwheel.info/minecraft/cogwheel-isometric-2011-04-08-11h04.png |
| 23:04.47 | kraftman | despite being addicted, i still dont understand minecraft |
| 23:04.53 | Jamash | <troll batrider> I can see your house... Burning! Ahahahaha! |
| 23:04.54 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 23:05.00 | cogwheel | (@kraftman) |
| 23:05.02 | kraftman | just as soon as i finish what im building i doubt ill ever play it again |
| 23:05.16 | Jamash | Nobody can explain what the Minecraft is... you have to see it for yourself. |
| 23:05.18 | kraftman | oh and after i build that other thing too |
| 23:05.28 | cogwheel | oh and that other other thing |
| 23:05.41 | Jamash | and that glorious golden shlong |
| 23:05.46 | kraftman | ^^ |
| 23:05.54 | cogwheel | hell, i took some pieces of an old electronics learning lab and re-implemented some of my redstone stuff in LEDs |
| 23:06.08 | Jamash | art imitates life imitates art |
| 23:06.11 | kraftman | i guess uve seen the guy that made the CPU? |
| 23:06.15 | cogwheel | yep |
| 23:06.18 | cogwheel | several |
| 23:06.36 | Jamash | I saw an ALU, have they progressed to full CPU? |
| 23:06.41 | kraftman | i think so |
| 23:06.53 | cogwheel | theinternetftw has a pretty much complete cpu |
| 23:07.00 | Jamash | is that the eye of sauron? |
| 23:07.02 | cogwheel | others have implemented various aspects |
| 23:07.11 | kraftman | i dont know much about java, but isnt that a cpu running in a game in a virtual pc on a pc through a cpu? |
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| 23:07.42 | cogwheel | something like that :P |
| 23:07.51 | Jamash | ~inception |
| 23:07.51 | purl | well, inception is http://inception.davepedu.com/ |
| 23:08.21 | kraftman | apart from the visuals, i wasnt a big fan of inception |
| 23:08.40 | Jamash | implement a conway life simulator on the minecraft cpu |
| 23:08.51 | cogwheel | haha |
| 23:09.06 | cogwheel | it would probably take 30 mins to do one step of a 5x5 grid |
| 23:09.08 | Jamash | then implement a universal turing machine in conway life |
| 23:11.10 | Jamash | that's pretty cool stuff you have on your server, I should buy minecr--NO MUST RESIST MUST NOT SUBMIT |
| 23:11.26 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 23:11.38 | Jamash | I haven't even finished magicka |
| 23:11.50 | cogwheel | i rarely finish games |
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| 23:12.09 | Jamash | I try to always finish games |
| 23:13.24 | cogwheel | i look at it as $ per <time spent entertained>. As long as I'm ahead of going to a matinée i'm happy |
| 23:13.42 | Jamash | I admit that my completion rate has dropped substantially since november 27th 2004 |
| 23:13.48 | cogwheel | s/ahead/behind i suppose |
| 23:13.53 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 23:15.01 | cogwheel | i never even played quake all the way through |
| 23:15.28 | Jamash | my pile of shame right now is Magicka (partial), Braid, Fallout 3, Super Mario Galaxy 2, a bunch of DS games, Borderlands (partial), Bioshock (partial), Gratuitous Space Battles (partial), Starcraft II (partial) |
| 23:15.50 | Jamash | and some other stuff like metroid prime 3 (partial) |
| 23:16.31 | Jamash | well quake I was not a real single-player game, it was a multi-player game with a tacked-on single-player |
| 23:17.15 | Jamash | Shoot a guy; go to next room; shoot another guy; smack your forehead into a button; shoot a gu |
| 23:17.19 | Jamash | y |
| 23:18.11 | mikma | cogwheel: i just digged a shaft with 30 TNT :D |
| 23:18.11 | cogwheel | you mean like every other single-player 1st-person shooter of the time? |
| 23:18.18 | Jamash | no |
| 23:18.30 | Jamash | duke 3D had a badass singleplayer |
| 23:18.42 | Jamash | you could play pool and give money to strippers |
| 23:20.57 | cogwheel | meh... just a different setting imo |
| 23:21.52 | kraftman | Jamash: im the same, i jut cant seem to muster the effort to complete |
| 23:21.57 | Jamash | quake I had literally no story beyond "there is a gun, shoot people" |
| 23:21.58 | mikma | cogwheel: and helped xinhuan to dig the way for his molt, melt, malt, or something with tnt! lovely |
| 23:22.15 | cogwheel | moat? |
| 23:22.21 | Jamash | exploding moat? |
| 23:22.57 | Jamash | that's one way to deter trespassers |
| 23:23.18 | mikma | cogwheel: maybe |
| 23:23.24 | Jamash | "No admittance. Violators will explode" |
| 23:23.37 | cogwheel | mikma: i didn't fall for your diamond storage :P |
| 23:24.17 | mikma | i told you not to |
| 23:24.52 | cogwheel | (this was days ago when i found that cave underneath your tree :P ) |
| 23:27.13 | mikma | i actually inspected it. had lost of iron and couple of diamonds in it |
| 23:27.26 | mikma | i even digged a curly stairs down from the torch |
| 23:27.48 | Jamash | new idea: Creeper moat |
| 23:27.48 | cogwheel | nice :) |
| 23:28.44 | mikma | when we get the pistons, thing wil get funny |
| 23:29.49 | cogwheel | home & food & notwork tiem |
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| 23:40.42 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: your island is looking gorgeous |
| 23:40.49 | jnwhiteh | cog|away: any chance of happy mapfun? |
| 23:41.03 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 23:42.09 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83NE-2C4NU |
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| 23:43.19 | mikma | jnwhiteh: a happy whatwhat |
| 23:43.29 | jnwhiteh | the map |
| 23:43.39 | jnwhiteh | the google maps like map |
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| 23:48.57 | Jamash | great, minecraft agribusiness |
| 23:49.30 | Jamash | starts a petition to ban genetically modified minecraft wheat |
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