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| 00:35.23 | jaxdahl | what's the api function to set those flag icons on the ground for raid marking? |
| 00:35.45 | foxlit | it won't help you as it's protected. |
| 00:36.43 | foxlit | PlaceRaidMarker. |
| 00:38.35 | jaxdahl | oh. can't keybind it either? |
| 00:38.42 | foxlit | no. |
| 00:39.16 | foxlit | well, you can't keybind it in a meaningful manner |
| 00:39.49 | foxlit | You could keybind a macro that'd try to use the dropdown that the UI uses to set them, but that's just as liable to being tainted as anything else |
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| 00:47.39 | Gsuz | Where can i find some material on how to write a addon options panel |
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| 06:12.17 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 06:12.22 | Fisker | why am i absolutely obliterating you? |
| 06:12.25 | bluspacecow | yessum |
| 06:12.42 | bluspacecow | i have no defense due to my going to procure food in the ktichen. |
| 06:14.20 | Fisker | that sucks |
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| 06:14.28 | Fisker | why are the eu forums down bluspacecow ? |
| 06:15.12 | bluspacecow | someone ate a server hamster |
| 06:15.40 | Fisker | no |
| 06:16.04 | Fisker | they probably didn't account for DST and are now fixing it manually |
| 06:16.05 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 06:16.28 | bluspacecow | fail |
| 06:18.54 | Shirik | it's so hard admittin' when it's quittin' time |
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| 06:19.42 | Fisker | also bluspacecow |
| 06:19.45 | Fisker | i don't feel so well |
| 06:19.51 | Fisker | what about you Shirik ? |
| 06:19.59 | Shirik | i don't feel so well either |
| 06:20.03 | Shirik | made a bunch of mistakes today |
| 06:20.14 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:20.20 | Fisker | like talking to me? |
| 06:20.29 | Shirik | no |
| 06:20.35 | Fisker | damn |
| 06:20.40 | Shirik | however I still claim vorix's effect is a replacement modifier |
| 06:20.45 | Fisker | do you want it to be a mistake? |
| 06:21.54 | Shirik | "When Vorix would deal melee damage, he deals that much nature damage + 1 instead" |
| 06:22.09 | Shirik | "716.1 Modifiers that use both âwouldâ and âinsteadâ are replacement modifiers" |
| 06:23.55 | Fisker | :O |
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| 06:27.22 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I was right |
| 06:27.26 | Shirik | judge was wrong! |
| 06:27.34 | Shirik | Of course it helped me out so I really don't care |
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| 06:37.40 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 06:37.47 | Shirik | IT IS A REPLACEMENT MODIFIER |
| 06:37.54 | Fisker | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/3/25/ <-why didn't i think of this? |
| 06:38.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:38.55 | Shirik | I do have to say for once microsoft did something right |
| 06:39.12 | Shirik | I still am not convinced of the usefulness of kinect, but they definitely did it well |
| 06:39.46 | Fisker | it's a bit sad they didn't release a highend model |
| 06:41.15 | karl_w_w | Fisker |
| 06:41.20 | karl_w_w | that aint workin |
| 06:41.25 | karl_w_w | that's the way you do it |
| 06:41.32 | Fisker | wut? |
| 06:41.33 | karl_w_w | money for nothing and your chicks for free |
| 06:41.56 | Fisker | i once killed a guy karl_w_w |
| 06:42.01 | Fisker | just thought i should let you know |
| 06:42.17 | karl_w_w | you killed a guy every day |
| 06:42.25 | karl_w_w | yet i never see any blood |
| 06:42.36 | karl_w_w | you mr brooks? |
| 06:42.49 | Fisker | no |
| 06:47.24 | Fisker | weren't floppies discontinued like a few years ago? |
| 06:48.00 | Fisker | i.e. they went out of production? |
| 06:54.34 | Elkano | not sure if there wasn't one company left producing them but yeah, most stopped production |
| 06:54.55 | Elkano | who needs 1.44MB floppies if you can have sticks of multiple GB |
| 06:56.02 | zenzio | these days I agree, but it's not so long ago that some motherboards still didn't do USB-booting very well |
| 06:58.55 | zenzio | "Samsung Hires 'Actors' To Pretend To Be Happy Galaxy Tab Testers" - well gee, when do companies *not* do this? |
| 07:06.59 | Elkano | well, appel doesn't have to... there are enough stupid fan boys... |
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| 07:14.49 | airtonix | i thought you loved apple |
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| 07:26.55 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
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| 08:22.16 | Fisker | hey you kd3 |
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| 08:25.33 | Fisker | you lied to me haste |
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| 08:42.21 | jnwhiteh | Geeksphone Zero. |
| 08:42.21 | jnwhiteh | kk? |
| 08:46.13 | Fisker | sup jnwhiteh |
| 08:46.17 | jnwhiteh | yes. |
| 08:46.23 | jnwhiteh | I agree. |
| 08:47.37 | Fisker | looks like a shitty phone |
| 08:48.02 | jnwhiteh | no, its a reasonable phone that doesn't ship locked to shit |
| 08:48.58 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 08:49.23 | Fisker | Hopefully we'll see more of that in the future |
| 08:49.54 | Fisker | especially now that HTC, Motorola and Samsung all seem to be taking that route |
| 08:50.12 | Fisker | LG probably would do the same when they get back on their feet |
| 08:50.55 | Fisker | it's really a shame though |
| 08:51.10 | Fisker | why not just support it for the getgo, and support it through fastboot instead? |
| 08:51.20 | Fisker | You can still claim all your silly warranty void shiznit |
| 08:51.53 | haste | Fisker: I always lie to you |
| 08:51.54 | airtonix | because it's easier to ignore your customers and make crap software |
| 08:52.25 | Fisker | :( haste |
| 08:52.31 | Fisker | i guess so airtonix |
| 08:52.44 | Fisker | Guess in some place it's more of a financial choice as well |
| 08:52.57 | Fisker | how dare we extend the life of our devices by years? |
| 08:53.18 | haste | trying to flash a new nightly on my phone |
| 08:53.32 | haste | but EVERYTIME I boot into recovery something happens and I forget it :P |
| 08:53.53 | haste | fourth time! |
| 08:54.12 | jnwhiteh | haste: thanks for the reminder, I'm supposed to be installing cm7-rc3 |
| 08:54.12 | Fisker | i don't forget anything |
| 08:54.15 | jnwhiteh | but I keep forgetting,. |
| 08:54.17 | Fisker | since CWM just flashes it for me |
| 08:54.24 | Fisker | oh btw jnwhiteh |
| 08:54.33 | haste | jnwhiteh: they've pushed rc3/nightlies for it? |
| 08:54.34 | Fisker | since you're not a total douchebag and probably know something about it |
| 08:54.44 | jnwhiteh | haste: yep, last night |
| 08:54.48 | Fisker | Is there any way to modify the init.rc before you build it? |
| 08:54.58 | jnwhiteh | what do you mean 'before you build it'? |
| 08:55.00 | haste | oh they have |
| 08:55.01 | jnwhiteh | are you building Cmsrc or AOSP? |
| 08:55.03 | Fisker | So you don't have to build it, mount the ramdisk, modify the init.rc, then repack it |
| 08:55.11 | haste | this is what I get for only checking the nightly tab |
| 08:55.13 | Fisker | i'm not anything but it's cmsrc yeah |
| 08:55.15 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:55.22 | jnwhiteh | you can alter the init.rc |
| 08:55.30 | haste | time to reboot back again :P |
| 08:55.30 | jnwhiteh | its a prebuilt file for most vendors |
| 08:55.33 | jnwhiteh | afaik |
| 08:55.36 | jnwhiteh | or it used to be |
| 08:55.47 | airtonix | what's so good about the cm7-rc3? |
| 08:56.02 | haste | airtonix: http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/ |
| 08:56.09 | Fisker | yeah we're trying to get the Optimus 2X to boot, but this guy don't want to modify the init.rc manually, he want to be able to change it in the source, then build it and have it work right out of the box |
| 08:56.14 | airtonix | they don't have one for my phone |
| 08:56.29 | haste | then it doesn't matter much :P |
| 08:56.37 | haste | unless you want to build yourself |
| 08:57.29 | airtonix | have they fixed the annoying bug where all your apps like to shit their folders all over your sdcard? |
| 08:57.52 | airtonix | /root/LAWL_I_POUT_APP_FOLDER_HEREZORR!!!!!/settings |
| 08:58.07 | haste | that's mainly the apps issue :P |
| 08:58.16 | haste | unless app2sd makes it do it |
| 08:58.20 | airtonix | that shit needs to stop |
| 08:58.32 | airtonix | retard application programmers |
| 08:58.34 | haste | flame the people who do it! |
| 08:58.45 | airtonix | they all do it |
| 08:58.50 | haste | not really |
| 08:59.06 | airtonix | android also needs ~/.icons ~/.fonts and ~/.themes |
| 08:59.21 | airtonix | and ~/.sounds |
| 08:59.31 | haste | there are some folders like that |
| 08:59.47 | Fisker | so what he'll have to change the init.d in the source or something then jnwhiteh ? |
| 09:00.03 | jnwhiteh | the init.rc |
| 09:00.09 | jnwhiteh | init.d is a directory |
| 09:00.16 | jnwhiteh | look at the vendor setup for that phone |
| 09:00.24 | jnwhiteh | it should be obvious where stuff is coming from |
| 09:01.22 | haste | thanks for letting me know about rc3 jnwhiteh :P |
| 09:01.24 | Fisker | well i'm not the one building it and i have ~zero experience with it :P |
| 09:01.32 | haste | I saw they bumped it, but didn't know a release was pushed |
| 09:01.33 | Fisker | anyway i can only find init.local.rc |
| 09:01.37 | Fisker | but that's basically empty |
| 09:01.38 | Fisker | https://github.com/Goddchen/android_vendor_cyanogen/tree/gingerbread/prebuilt/common/etc |
| 09:01.51 | jnwhiteh | Why don't you ask in #cyanogenmod? |
| 09:01.57 | jnwhiteh | Its been a long time since I've built the cmsrc |
| 09:01.59 | jnwhiteh | and I'm working =) |
| 09:02.30 | Fisker | The guy say he's tried they just ignore him |
| 09:02.34 | haste | also, I hate clockwork recovery so much |
| 09:02.34 | Fisker | also in #android-dev |
| 09:02.58 | Fisker | so i was hoping you had some gems so he could continue |
| 09:03.09 | haste | they should make a release without the idiot-checks |
| 09:04.03 | airtonix | but how would you get it installed then? |
| 09:04.17 | airtonix | you've already failed the most basic of idiot checks four times |
| 09:04.22 | haste | ~rimshot |
| 09:04.22 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 09:04.27 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_htc_hero/blob/froyo/init.hero.rc |
| 09:04.35 | jnwhiteh | it depends on the device, as I already said. |
| 09:04.42 | jnwhiteh | so he needs to go to the device repo |
| 09:04.50 | haste | my previous failure was booting into recovery and not having time to continue airtonix :P |
| 09:05.02 | airtonix | problem haste? |
| 09:05.15 | haste | wat |
| 09:05.19 | Fisker | yeah he's using the basic repo since the optimus isn't supported there yet jnwhiteh |
| 09:05.34 | jnwhiteh | he needs to make a device repo |
| 09:05.42 | jnwhiteh | everything depends on it |
| 09:05.50 | jnwhiteh | add device + product |
| 09:06.10 | Fisker | ok i'll tell him that when he gets back on |
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| 09:33.29 | mckenziemc | hmm, it seems like Vanish will sometimes but not always remove my Sap from an npc, and i can't tell why there's a difference |
| 09:35.41 | Thrae | mckenziemc: If you're doing Sap + Vanish in a short enough amount of time you may have confused the server. Sometimes events don't get processed the right way if they're too close together, since the server needs to do everything linearly. |
| 09:36.00 | Thrae | Otherwise, I dunno. |
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| 09:36.23 | mckenziemc | true, but i don't think any of these cases have been that close together |
| 09:38.37 | mckenziemc | hmm, maybe they reset if i was in combat with them, and don't reset if i wasn't -- you can get close to a sapped mob without getting in combat but it'll still happen if you go right in front of them |
| 09:38.53 | mckenziemc | it'll still happen == getting in combat |
| 09:43.02 | mckenziemc | hmm, thats' not quite right, i just walked right over this sapped mob while unstealthed and didn't get in combat. Perhaps it's related to the synchronization issue you mentioned -- server says i got into combat right before i sapped (or i was quick enough to sap the mob before it could hit me) |
| 09:45.08 | mckenziemc | i tried testing by using Sap in shadow dance but forgot you can't use it on a target in combat.... that may be wrong too *shrug* |
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| 09:46.05 | mckenziemc | oh there we go |
| 09:47.16 | mckenziemc | i was gonna shrug it off as "idk" and then coincidentally figured it out, if you attack one mob in a group that "chain pulls" it'll put you in combat with the other, even if it's sapped -- and then vanish will cause it to lose the Sap |
| 09:47.53 | karl_w_w | its still strange though |
| 09:48.01 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 09:51.23 | mckenziemc | i don't recall if Vanishing after Sapping a player (before Sap wears off) clears it or not |
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| 10:21.20 | karl_w_w | if a tank dies to flame torrent what went wrong? :P |
| 10:21.46 | karl_w_w | like is it avoidable at all |
| 10:22.45 | Fisker | FRIDAY FRIDAY |
| 10:24.24 | Cairenn | Sixen: ping? |
| 10:36.32 | airtonix | mckenziemc1: when i was playing a year ago, i observed that sap was always removed when leaving combat on non players |
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| 10:37.29 | mckenziemc1 | interesting |
| 10:38.00 | airtonix | same with blind i think |
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| 10:38.44 | airtonix | pretty much any effect that disables a target ( this happens to priests mind control too ) |
| 10:43.37 | karl_w_w | doesnt happen with polymorph |
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| 10:55.40 | Fisker | umadKalroth? |
| 10:56.59 | Kalroth | ya |
| 10:57.18 | Fisker | should i play homefront Kalroth ? |
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| 10:57.30 | airtonix | as opposed to? |
| 10:58.01 | Fisker | your mom |
| 10:58.29 | Kalroth | Fisker: no |
| 10:58.31 | airtonix | i don't see that option on steam? |
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| 11:04.09 | Fisker | it's a non-steam game airtonix |
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| 11:04.49 | mckenziemc1 | blarg, i hate quest mechanics that put stealth-dependent classes at a disadvantage |
| 11:05.11 | Fisker | baw |
| 11:05.45 | Kalroth | uhm, which classes are dependent on stealth? |
| 11:06.30 | airtonix | lol |
| 11:06.57 | mckenziemc1 | rogues and druids |
| 11:07.07 | airtonix | really? |
| 11:07.41 | airtonix | stealth makes rogues too easy imo |
| 11:07.43 | mckenziemc1 | oh, and Fiskers |
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| 11:11.13 | mckenziemc1 | morning Cide |
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| 11:16.18 | mckenziemc1 | is Instant Poison a fixed % chance to proc nowadays or is it a fixed PPM |
| 11:22.19 | Maldivia | normalized ppm |
| 11:23.11 | Maldivia | or well, ppm kind of implies normalized :P |
| 11:23.18 | mckenziemc1 | i think that answers my question but i'm confused by the notation |
| 11:23.23 | mckenziemc1 | ah, that's what i was about to ask |
| 11:28.53 | Maldivia | well, it's been a while since I've looked at it, but (without talents) it's something like hit every 7 seconds |
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| 12:03.13 | mckenziemc1 | my Future Me has forgotten how to stealth : / |
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| 12:18.33 | sylvanaar_ipad | Looks like colloquy is working again |
| 12:19.16 | sylvanaar_ipad | Oh I am on wifi... |
| 12:19.34 | Fisker | oh hello sylvanaar_ipad |
| 12:19.51 | sylvanaar_ipad | Hello Fisker |
| 12:20.42 | sylvanaar_ipad | When are we expecting 4.1? Any idea? |
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| 12:21.51 | Fisker | i think the world will end before 4.1 |
| 12:22.12 | Fisker | anyway i'd say 3 weeks starting tuesday |
| 12:22.43 | sylvanaar_ipad | Sounds believable |
| 12:24.15 | Mikk | i dreamt that it was coming out today this night |
| 12:24.16 | Mikk | it was weird |
| 12:24.23 | Mikk | like "wtf but it's monday?!" |
| 12:28.09 | sylvanaar_ipad | I dreamt that someone stole my car |
| 12:39.03 | mckenziemc1 | i dreamt that i stole your cars |
| 12:39.05 | mckenziemc1 | car* |
| 12:40.04 | Fisker | i dreamt that i killed you |
| 12:42.04 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:44.28 | Fisker | now haste |
| 12:48.23 | Fisker | very now haste |
| 12:49.56 | mckenziemc1 | Fisker, apparently you need to stack more haste |
| 12:50.10 | Fisker | omg mckenziemc1 |
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| 12:52.22 | mckenziemc1 | oh my Fisker, god |
| 12:52.32 | Fisker | oh my mckenziemc1 |
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| 12:56.14 | mckenziemc1 | g'morning lopeppeppy |
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| 12:57.29 | mckenziemc1 | and bluspacecow |
| 12:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning to you too, mckenziemc1! |
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| 13:03.16 | alestane | waves at the vanishing Peppy... |
| 13:03.37 | mckenziemc1 | heh, Shadowstep put me into a cage that i wouldn't otherwise have been able to walk into |
| 13:06.38 | alestane | Can you walk out? |
| 13:06.53 | mckenziemc1 | yeah |
| 13:06.58 | mckenziemc1 | just can't walk back in xD |
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| 13:17.13 | mckenziemc1 | ~trout bluspacecow |
| 13:17.13 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout! |
| 13:18.09 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:18.20 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 13:18.26 | Fisker | no! |
| 13:18.30 | Fisker | not until the forums are back up |
| 13:19.28 | bluspacecow | but the forums are up ? |
| 13:19.47 | karl_w_w | can you still shadowstep up to the cannons in sota? |
| 13:22.55 | Xinhuan | last i knew, you could shadowstep thru the damn gate |
| 13:23.03 | bluspacecow | no clue |
| 13:23.18 | bluspacecow | i could say absolutely but then if it doesn't work i woud look like a right bastard |
| 13:23.20 | bluspacecow | actually |
| 13:23.23 | bluspacecow | absolutely! |
| 13:23.52 | Xinhuan | you bastard |
| 13:28.42 | karl_w_w | spits on bluspacecow |
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| 13:42.57 | Ackis | so world first guild level 25 == cheaters? |
| 13:43.31 | Kalroth | yes |
| 13:43.48 | Grum | i think cheating is a bit harsh |
| 13:43.54 | Grum | most people got their guild xp reset |
| 13:44.06 | Grum | they apparently didn't |
| 13:44.31 | Ackis | s/cheaters/knowingly abused an exploit/ |
| 13:44.56 | Kalroth | knowingly and willingly |
| 13:45.35 | Grum | what was the exploit? |
| 13:45.57 | karl_w_w | what were they meant to do, stop levelling for just enough time that they didnt get an advantage? |
| 13:46.02 | Ackis | remember the guy who get the marvin's thunder on accident? |
| 13:46.03 | karl_w_w | how would they even do that |
| 13:46.10 | Ackis | he was banned because he didn't report himself for having it |
| 13:46.25 | karl_w_w | it was a shirt with the same ability as martin thunder on it |
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| 13:51.05 | dusf | longshot, but is there an addon the will make a sound whenever a mineral node appears on minimap? |
| 13:51.13 | dusf | it would probably have been done by now if possible... |
| 13:51.22 | Xinhuan | what you said |
| 13:51.23 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 13:51.37 | bluspacecow | no access from the API to node locations or when they appear |
| 13:51.49 | dusf | ty guys |
| 13:51.50 | bluspacecow | changing the texture on the minimap is about as far as they go afaik |
| 13:51.57 | dusf | worth googling and asking here though :) |
| 13:52.16 | karl_w_w | maybe for you |
| 13:52.34 | Thunder_Child | he is already gone karl_w_w |
| 13:54.02 | karl_w_w | i know |
| 14:07.10 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/qHlIw |
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| 14:23.54 | Sixen | cairenn|afk: pong |
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| 14:40.28 | foxlit | curse you, lightbox. |
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| 15:03.24 | alestane | would rather be coding right now. |
| 15:08.09 | foxlit | Hm, GSOC student signups open today. |
| 15:12.17 | Kraps | so my brothers wedding was last night |
| 15:12.39 | Kraps | my brain hurts |
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| 15:31.46 | karl_w_w | i believe that people who consistently join BGs and ignore the objectives of the BG should be banned from BGs for life |
| 15:36.22 | Kraps | haha, PRIEST - Has something to tell you. CARDINAL - has something to sell you. |
| 15:37.16 | Ackis | I don't get it Kraps |
| 15:37.37 | Kraps | i dont either :( |
| 15:37.41 | Kraps | but its funny |
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| 16:16.17 | airtonix | mikma: lulz |
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| 16:17.07 | airtonix | mikma: at first i thought it was the chap from Day of the Dead, but then i saw the mop with a face |
| 16:17.15 | airtonix | shawn of the dead i mean |
| 16:18.14 | alestane | huggles Peppy again. |
| 16:21.04 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/pPb02.png |
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| 16:23.37 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, alestane. |
| 16:24.15 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/ymVSR.jpg |
| 16:25.27 | alestane | How goes it, Peppy? Did the custodian of catalog questions come back from her ill-permitted vacation? |
| 16:26.10 | bluspacecow | who ? |
| 16:26.24 | alestane | I don't know her name, bluspacecow. |
| 16:26.51 | bluspacecow | were you talking about peppy ? or someone peppy needs to deal with ? |
| 16:27.06 | bluspacecow | oh and hai2u pepperster |
| 16:27.37 | alestane | Someone who disappeared when she was needed, not-the-peppy. |
| 16:28.08 | Lopeppeppy | No, she didn't come back yet. And her backup went on vacation on Thursday, too. |
| 16:28.17 | Lopeppeppy | F it, just f it all, man. |
| 16:28.55 | Lopeppeppy | My cat is at the vet spending my money, my dad is getting sliced like a deli ham, and everyone else is on vacation. F. F. F. /insanity |
| 16:29.47 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 16:29.47 | Fisker | NO |
| 16:29.50 | Fisker | you have been stopped |
| 16:29.57 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, bluspacecow. *huggle* |
| 16:30.12 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:30.15 | alestane | That is...not so very good. Or so very not good. Or something. |
| 16:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | F. F. is the word. |
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| 16:32.34 | alestane | Well, if you'll believe in me, I'll believe in you. |
| 16:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | Today I don't believe in anything, alestane. Just cannot. Magic 8 ball says try again tomorrow. |
| 16:33.32 | alestane | I'll just have to spot you for today, then. |
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| 16:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | sheeple find such stupid ways to break things. |
| 16:35.50 | alestane | Biodh se amhlaidh to that. |
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| 16:37.52 | olafski | kraps: :D |
| 16:38.45 | Lopeppeppy | Better be "kiss my ass" or something more poignant. |
| 16:39.32 | alestane | No, that's "Pog ma tHon" or something close. |
| 16:40.20 | bluspacecow | sheeple ? |
| 16:40.30 | alestane | Sheeple. |
| 16:40.36 | bluspacecow | wot dat |
| 16:40.49 | karl_w_w | do runspeed metas stack with things like sprint? |
| 16:41.07 | alestane | They just "BAA" and look confused at you no matter how many times you show them what to do. |
| 16:41.42 | bluspacecow | BAAAAAAA |
| 16:41.48 | bluspacecow | *looks at Loppy confused* |
| 16:41.58 | alestane | Please no, she doesn't need any more. |
| 16:42.30 | alestane | And in any case if you confuse her, she might make you into lunch. |
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| 16:43.03 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 16:43.04 | bluspacecow | http://i.imgur.com/zQ7Bf.gif |
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| 16:43.58 | bluspacecow | http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8509/sheepeatingr.gif |
| 16:45.39 | Lopeppeppy | Cross between people and sheep. They stand around and look cutely confused no matter how many times you show them how to cut and paste. |
| 16:46.07 | Lopeppeppy | My sheeple look like that last gif. Buh-duh-whu? |
| 16:46.16 | bluspacecow | its a creepy sheep ! |
| 16:46.58 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2089270071 |
| 16:47.05 | bluspacecow | check out TonyM's avatar ! |
| 16:47.07 | bluspacecow | <3 |
| 16:47.56 | Lopeppeppy | I love the zombie sheep wolf dog thing avatar! |
| 16:48.15 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:48.26 | bluspacecow | *falls down from the impact* |
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| 16:49.37 | alestane | has never had Peppy take up his offer of releasing wolves among the sheeple to reduce the population. |
| 16:49.47 | Fisker | stop it bluspacecow |
| 16:49.52 | Fisker | i hate being mocked |
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| 16:54.56 | Ackis | mocks Fisker |
| 17:01.08 | Torhal|work | Lopeppeppy: Wolves! http://wimp.com/brokenheadlight |
| 17:04.05 | Lopeppeppy | Ah-roof? |
| 17:04.18 | Torhal|work | !!! |
| 17:05.12 | Lopeppeppy | That's F'ing awesome! *laugh* |
| 17:06.16 | Torhal|work | Indeedc! |
| 17:06.19 | Torhal|work | -c |
| 17:06.28 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. Cobra escapes from the Bronx Zoo. Stampede at 11. |
| 17:06.35 | Torhal|work | lol |
| 17:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | On SATURDAY, and they haven't found it yet. Pro tip... look someplace warm, it's only 20 degrees at night and cobras like to be warm! |
| 17:12.00 | alestane | However, snakes can get into pretty much anywhere. |
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| 17:17.37 | Lopeppeppy | I am on hold. I am customer #1 and my average wait is 0 minutes... *boggle* |
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| 17:18.47 | alestane | I've had that happen once or twice. |
| 17:19.00 | alestane | I presume that it means they went to the restroom. |
| 17:19.25 | Ackis | haha you're #1 while they're doing #2 |
| 17:20.55 | alestane | Ackis, I hope that you'll undertand that the savage beating you're about to receive is in no way intended to be a reflection on your sense of humor, or any events of our shared history, or in fact anything explicable at all. |
| 17:21.20 | Lopeppeppy | Hmph. |
| 17:21.23 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:21.25 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/oops-major-canadian-isp-admits-throttling-world-of-warcraft.ars |
| 17:23.10 | Lopeppeppy | I totally cannot get her to understand that I don't want a password reset. I want to know why they aren't texting me like they should. |
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| 17:27.15 | alestane | Whoever designed this web page was probably awarded at least two merit badges for "completely gratuitous use of Javascript." |
| 17:27.32 | zenzelezz | http://textaligncentaur.com/ |
| 17:27.36 | Fisker | alestane |
| 17:27.38 | Fisker | i like you |
| 17:27.39 | sylvanaar_work | anyone recommend a good SSD |
| 17:27.40 | Fisker | you like me |
| 17:27.56 | Fisker | when do you need it sylvanaar_work ? |
| 17:28.15 | sylvanaar_work | dunno, is something good coming out soon? |
| 17:28.20 | alestane | What was the point of that oddity, zenzelezz ? |
| 17:28.41 | Fisker | Well intel's new generation of SSD's are rumored to launch next month |
| 17:28.47 | Lopeppeppy | He lurvs me and wants me not to hate? |
| 17:28.51 | sylvanaar_work | maybe ill wait then |
| 17:28.58 | sylvanaar_work | im not in a rush |
| 17:29.13 | zenzelezz | alestane: it's awesome! |
| 17:29.50 | alestane | I don't understand what it does, then. |
| 17:30.01 | zenzelezz | click the button (and resize the textbox if necessary) |
| 17:31.07 | alestane | Am i supposed to paste something into it first or something? |
| 17:31.23 | zenzelezz | no, it should be pre-filled with the text |
| 17:31.50 | alestane | Something wrong with IE then. |
| 17:31.58 | alestane | Firefox fills some in. |
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| 17:32.32 | alestane | That's moderately amusing once I can actually see it. |
| 17:32.35 | Fisker | hello tekkub |
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| 17:37.03 | Ackis | my fiancee had linked this to me about 10 times in the past few days: http://www.edmontonhumanesociety.com/index.php?option=com_adoptions&view=details&adoptionid=38848&Itemid=4 |
| 17:37.09 | Ackis | I wonder if that's a hint or not |
| 17:37.25 | zenzelezz | could be |
| 17:37.34 | zenzelezz | or she's hinting she might exchange you for one |
| 17:37.57 | sylvanaar_work | anyone have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-Performance-Cooler-CWCH70/dp/B003XOR00I/ |
| 17:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | I think she wants another baby, Ackis. |
| 17:39.04 | Ackis | we have 4 cats and a dog... :( |
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| 17:40.37 | Lopeppeppy | Tell her that when a new baby comes in, one of the old ones has to go. |
| 17:40.48 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:43.35 | karl_w_w | "Interface action failed because of an AddOn" <- is there any nice way to find out what action or what addon? |
| 17:44.13 | Lopeppeppy | Binary search. |
| 17:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | Or... did you just recently update something? That could be a big red flag. |
| 17:45.26 | karl_w_w | nah just tried to run this macro /run for i=1,GetNumAuctionItems("owner") do saleStatus = select(13,GetAuctionItemInfo("owner", i)) if saleStatus~=1 then CancelAuction(i) end end |
| 17:45.59 | Lopeppeppy | Um, then I bet that macro is a bad bad monkey. |
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| 17:47.08 | karl_w_w | i dont see why though |
| 17:47.10 | alestane | Didn't CancelAuction get protected? |
| 17:47.30 | karl_w_w | dont think so |
| 17:47.37 | karl_w_w | it works the first time through |
| 17:47.37 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds somewhat likely though... |
| 17:47.55 | karl_w_w | like the first auction will be cancelled |
| 17:47.59 | Lopeppeppy | So the second time, what's different? |
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| 17:48.06 | karl_w_w | nothing happens |
| 17:48.19 | karl_w_w | it just cancels the first auction and that message appears in chat |
| 17:48.19 | Lopeppeppy | So... maybe it takes a keypress for every auction cancel? |
| 17:51.28 | Lopeppeppy | I'd look more into how cancelauction works, because that sounds like a probable cause - protected, requires a keypress every time? |
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| 17:52.26 | Gnarfoz | one canceled auction per keypress, yes |
| 17:53.11 | Gnarfoz | i.e. "requires hardware event" |
| 17:53.11 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 17:53.20 | karl_w_w | said the blind man |
| 17:56.40 | Fisker | haste |
| 17:56.48 | Fisker | or jnwhiteh |
| 17:57.09 | Fisker | Do you know if there's a file where the system will attempt to write the log? |
| 17:57.26 | Fisker | We got it booting, unfortunately it won't register on adb :( |
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| 18:06.20 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: i can't parse your sentence |
| 18:06.43 | jnwhiteh | you can use terminal and logcat |
| 18:06.45 | jnwhiteh | possibly |
| 18:06.46 | jnwhiteh | not sur |
| 18:06.53 | alestane | Just found 86 images that were never migrated from the original server and are still being loaded from there. |
| 18:07.04 | Thunder_Child | i read that as "terminal and lolcat" i feel so dirty right now |
| 18:07.26 | alestane | give Thunder_Child a cheezburger. |
| 18:08.39 | Primer | Thunder_Child: hahah so did I! |
| 18:09.21 | Fisker | jnwhiteh we fixed the init.rc problem, so now instead of booting to a blank screen with the android text on it, it will just boot to a blank screen |
| 18:09.26 | alestane | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/306745552/the-logo-with-the-goose-and-buoy-should-be-the ...I swear, my first response to this would be "Call me back when you're sober!" |
| 18:09.28 | Fisker | no adb though so we can't logcat or dmesg :( |
| 18:09.59 | jnwhiteh | yeah not entirely sure what to tell you =/ |
| 18:10.17 | Primer | Install a terminal locally? Unless we're not talking about a phone |
| 18:10.21 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: can you clone another android? |
| 18:11.06 | Fisker | lulz Thunder_Child |
| 18:17.48 | Fisker | mmm |
| 18:17.53 | Fisker | i just ate some ice sorbet jnwhiteh |
| 18:17.57 | Fisker | nom nom nom |
| 18:24.49 | Gnarfoz | <Ackis> remember the guy who get the marvin's thunder on accident? <-- Martin's; also, the guild you're talking about *did* file several GM tickets over the past 12 weeks, so your point is moot. also, they're not the only guild that reached level 23 at the time they did, so there even was competition |
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| 18:36.02 | Lopeppeppy | Bail. |
| 18:36.11 | Lopeppeppy | Never do anything that you don't have sufficient bail to cover. |
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| 18:40.31 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:45.02 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:45.31 | alestane | Sounds like Peppy may need bail money soon, Lunessa. |
| 18:45.53 | Lunessa | alestane: I'll pass the hat? |
| 18:46.08 | Fisker | damnit |
| 18:46.17 | Fisker | how can you have 2 days of maintenance |
| 18:46.33 | Fisker | i'm dying over herre |
| 18:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | Har har? |
| 18:49.40 | alestane | That comment may have been in poor humor. |
| 18:49.43 | Lunessa | Good stuff in here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2301722463 |
| 18:49.58 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: If you need to take it on the lam, I'd hide you out. |
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| 18:53.03 | Fisker | man Lunessa |
| 18:53.11 | Fisker | i hate it when US forums get the information first |
| 18:53.57 | Lunessa | Hey, just consider it a small trade off for all the other crap you lord over us. |
| 18:53.58 | karl_w_w | read US forums then |
| 18:54.15 | karl_w_w | or read mmo champ |
| 18:54.57 | Fisker | they started it before i did Lunessa |
| 18:56.22 | Lunessa | It's ok Fisker, it doesn't change how I feel about you. |
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| 18:57.35 | Lunessa | And.. they're going to let us reorganize the character select screen? After all this time? |
| 18:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Lunessa. I'm... close to it. /mad mad world |
| 18:58.49 | Maldivia | I wonder how many times they used to record the voices for this pinky and brain cartoon... http://www.wimp.com/pinkybrain/ |
| 18:59.42 | Lunessa | What'll we do tonight, Cide? |
| 19:00.14 | Lopeppeppy | Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Lunessa? |
| 19:00.14 | krka | Well, I think so, Lopeppeppy, but I can't memorize a whole opera in Yiddish. |
| 19:00.21 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly! |
| 19:00.45 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I've been pondering that for a long time, but I still am not sure how the Chorus Line Dancers fit in... |
| 19:02.38 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno, Lunessa, where will we find a geisha willing to travel that far? |
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| 19:03.19 | Fisker | it's a bus Lopeppeppy |
| 19:03.59 | karl_w_w | "We do have plans to convert tabards into a manager similar to our Title UI on the character page." Interesting, previous references to that have always included ifs buts and maybes - this probably means they've decided how they're going to do it, maybe they're even working it on already? |
| 19:05.50 | Fisker | The issue was probably more a question of storage than implementation |
| 19:05.58 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 19:06.13 | karl_w_w | but its a definite change of wording to every other time they've mentioned it |
| 19:07.56 | Cide | Lunessa: kill heroic chimaeron is the plan |
| 19:08.42 | karl_w_w | roar 450 lockboxes |
| 19:08.47 | Fisker | oh well sylvanaar |
| 19:08.47 | karl_w_w | onlt 700 to go :P |
| 19:08.53 | Fisker | Anandtech got a hold of the G3 chips |
| 19:09.08 | Fisker | apparently not worth it compared to the drives launching from the competitors |
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| 19:18.48 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 19:19.08 | karl_w_w | do people still really think there will be player housing in the game at some stage? |
| 19:22.01 | Lunessa | Cide: You were supposed to say, "The same thing we do every night, Lunessa; try to take over the world!" |
| 19:23.46 | Primer | karl_w_w: What does blizz have against player housing? Too much effort for too little return? |
| 19:24.28 | karl_w_w | probably |
| 19:24.36 | karl_w_w | i mean to me it sounds interesting |
| 19:24.56 | karl_w_w | but when you think about it what are you going to do there? nothing at all, idle on your own! |
| 19:24.59 | karl_w_w | booooring |
| 19:25.53 | Primer | I suspect guild housing would be more useful |
| 19:26.00 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 19:26.15 | karl_w_w | anyway random forum person: "but the forums are in an uproar, and ghostcrawlers last blog dodged the issue without addressing it leaving us wondering whats happening with the game and whats going to happen in the future to address it." <- i've seen a few posts like this lately, anyone know wtf they're on about? |
| 19:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | random QQ. People keep trying to force absolute answers, and nitpicking poor GCs posts to death, and then trying to force someone ELSE to give the absolute answers they claim poor GC "fails to give". |
| 19:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | Whenever I see that my eyes glaze over and I close the thread. |
| 19:31.05 | alestane | People want commitment. |
| 19:31.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's a BLOG, not a stock report. Get OVER it. :) |
| 19:31.26 | alestane | Oh I agree. |
| 19:31.33 | alestane | They can want whatever they please. |
| 19:31.46 | Lopeppeppy | Wine wine wine cheeeeeeze! |
| 19:32.30 | alestane | Blizzard doesn't even commit to things when they RELEASE them, you'd think people would understand that by now. |
| 19:36.04 | alestane | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/342747761/client-this-is-absolutely-wrong-wheres-all-the ...all KINDS of /headdesk. |
| 19:38.41 | Cide | Lunessa: this is true. I have failed. |
| 19:40.08 | Lunessa | Primer: They've repeatedly said that player housing essentially removes people from the community spaces, and they don't want that. |
| 19:40.26 | Primer | Lunessa: I never knew. Thanks! |
| 19:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | ... I will need bail money for murdering Rosie's vet. Please and thank you. Expect a call around 6pm. |
| 19:42.22 | alestane | Oh dear, NOW what? |
| 19:43.34 | Lopeppeppy | Dr. A says Rosie has disease x, let's treat it. Dr. B says... um, no she doesn't, and what you've done for the last 2 weeks has been wrong. F. F. F. |
| 19:44.12 | alestane | How does we know who to murder, then? |
| 19:44.12 | Lopeppeppy | Someone is gonna have to walk the plank. |
| 19:45.08 | alestane | So the second opinion doubts the megacolon diagnosis? |
| 19:45.11 | Lopeppeppy | cage match. I'll kill the survivor and go to another vet entirely. |
| 19:45.13 | Lunessa | Keel-haulin' is too good fer 'em. |
| 19:46.04 | Lopeppeppy | This is my baby, damn straight. |
| 19:48.43 | alestane | "Our web application support team doesnât know html or javascript, can you redo the project so you arenât using those?" |
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| 19:48.44 | alestane | ...well, what kind of web application support team is THAT? |
| 19:49.29 | Cide | the joomla professionals |
| 19:49.45 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, oooh, what was that microsoft product that made sites for you! Ohh! That. |
| 19:50.06 | Cide | fuck joomla honestly |
| 19:50.21 | alestane | FrontPage? |
| 19:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! |
| 19:50.58 | alestane | stabs FrontPage repeatedly with a rusty gimlet. |
| 19:53.13 | Lunessa | FrontPage, GoLive, etc. should all DIAF |
| 19:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | very die. Loudly |
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| 19:55.55 | Cide | anyone I know and like in here who would like Portal 1? |
| 19:56.18 | Lunessa | <-- |
| 19:56.24 | Cide | pm me your steam id |
| 19:56.26 | Cide | or email |
| 19:56.41 | Cide | email is easier probably |
| 19:58.01 | alestane | ...43 bloody images... |
| 19:59.30 | karl_w_w | these goldspammers are getting more and more inventive: [From] [1:Itouch]: larwood [1:Itouch]: its me kenwood [1:Itouch]: or deathspeaker remember ? [1:Itouch]: lvl 80 pallie ? |
| 20:00.33 | Fisker | wtf is this alestane ? |
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| 20:00.58 | Cide | also up for grabs are half life 2 and half life 2: episode 1 |
| 20:01.01 | Cide | same restrictions apply |
| 20:01.16 | alestane | Is what, Fisker? |
| 20:01.19 | Fisker | Cide |
| 20:01.21 | alestane | The 43 images? |
| 20:01.22 | Fisker | do you know and like me? |
| 20:01.27 | Cide | Fisker: sure. |
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| 20:01.34 | Fisker | damn |
| 20:01.37 | Fisker | wasn't expecting that |
| 20:01.44 | Cide | but you already own both of them |
| 20:01.47 | Fisker | i know |
| 20:01.56 | Fisker | just wanted to know that i was hated :( |
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| 20:02.32 | Cide | also up for grabs is one copy of Madballs in Babo: Invasion |
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| 20:02.52 | Lunessa | I've been wanting to try Portal, but I'm a terrible FPS player, so Half Life doesn't really appeal. :) |
| 20:03.04 | Cide | aye |
| 20:03.09 | Cide | fps player or not, portal is a must play |
| 20:03.16 | Cide | hl2 not so much |
| 20:03.53 | Fisker | Portal doesn't have much to do with FPS' |
| 20:04.12 | Fisker | most of the challenges are possible with no serious timing or twitch skills |
| 20:04.13 | Cide | except the first person view |
| 20:04.17 | Cide | silly fisk |
| 20:04.32 | Lunessa | Yeah, so I'm totally interested in Portal, but not Half Life. |
| 20:05.15 | Fisker | i'm really starting to believe that the Battle.net downtime is due to manually adjusting DST |
| 20:05.25 | Lunessa | I should probably warn my guild that I'm about to start playing Portal and someone should call me prior to raid times... |
| 20:05.49 | Cide | sadly it's quite short :( |
| 20:06.26 | Lunessa | High replay value? |
| 20:06.33 | Cide | not really |
| 20:06.36 | Lunessa | Ah. |
| 20:06.46 | Cide | there are some non-story additions though |
| 20:06.51 | Cide | challenges |
| 20:07.01 | Lunessa | Probably a good thing. I mean, I still loose entire weekends to Civ games. |
| 20:07.02 | Cide | which are quite fun, but not as awesome as the story |
| 20:08.03 | Cide | and soon we get portal 2 (the reason for the available gift) |
| 20:09.42 | Lunessa | I was out at a GameStop Saturday (just browsing!) and I saw the posters. |
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| 20:16.46 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/876739-Do-you-believe-WoW-is-dying <- lol |
| 20:16.52 | karl_w_w | where is this all even coming from |
| 20:20.06 | sylvanaar | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/oops-major-canadian-isp-admits-throttling-world-of-warcraft.ars |
| 20:21.22 | Fisker | yeah well, what else is new? |
| 20:21.43 | Fisker | i wish throttling would be illegal |
| 20:25.26 | karl_w_w | why |
| 20:25.57 | karl_w_w | i mean i know why you dont want it, but what possible reason is there to make it illegal |
| 20:26.35 | Fisker | What do you mean what possible reason there is? |
| 20:29.01 | karl_w_w | the isp provides the service, how they administer it and the quality of that service is completely up to them. if you dont want to be throttled change to an isp that doesnt throttle (and probably pay a bit more because of that) |
| 20:29.11 | karl_w_w | thats called the free market babeh |
| 20:29.37 | Fisker | Yes, why do i have to hear about how my ISP handles/throttles data in the news? |
| 20:29.59 | karl_w_w | human beings enjoy QQing |
| 20:30.03 | Fisker | That should be made adamantly clear, outside any silly legalese |
| 20:30.34 | Fisker | Do these also offer a service where i can get the line unthrottled? |
| 20:30.34 | Fisker | Probably not |
| 20:30.43 | Fisker | They also cause monetary damages to the services they throttle |
| 20:31.12 | karl_w_w | thats crazy |
| 20:31.25 | Fisker | how so? |
| 20:31.53 | karl_w_w | you could say then that it should be illegal for bus companies to reduce the number of services they run |
| 20:32.09 | karl_w_w | i want my bus service to be as fast as it can be all the time |
| 20:32.32 | karl_w_w | i dont care if the bus company has to pay crazy amounts to run a bus everywhere every 1 minute |
| 20:32.35 | Xyphoid | government regulation of the internet is the answer |
| 20:33.06 | Fisker | Difference being that internet access is at the point that it might have human rights implications, bus services do not, also it, depending on the circumstances, can be illegal to do that |
| 20:33.18 | Fisker | Bus companies have a SLA with the government here |
| 20:33.31 | karl_w_w | being able to go to the shop or work has human rights implications |
| 20:33.31 | Fisker | i'm sure there are similar laws in other countries |
| 20:33.53 | Fisker | in actuality it does not karl_w_w, though do go on. |
| 20:34.21 | karl_w_w | i dont see how transportation is less of a basic need than internet |
| 20:34.29 | karl_w_w | surely it's the opposite |
| 20:34.48 | karl_w_w | as going somewhere can always replace using the internet |
| 20:35.09 | karl_w_w | but you cant use the internet to do everything you could do in person |
| 20:35.44 | Fisker | Either your point was that it shouldn't be illegal for bus companies to reduce the level of service |
| 20:35.51 | Fisker | that isn't the reality though |
| 20:36.49 | Fisker | and to be fair i wouldn't mind if such throttling existed, as long as it was made clear and alternatives (within the same service) exist |
| 20:37.03 | Fisker | Easier to just get rid of it completely though |
| 20:37.29 | karl_w_w | getting rid of it would be Bad |
| 20:38.15 | karl_w_w | you would force the isp to provide perfect service, and ultimately force the consumer to have to pay for it even if they didnt want it? |
| 20:39.10 | karl_w_w | not a lot of goverments are that controlling these days |
| 20:40.01 | Fisker | I would force the ISP to provide a service, just as much as i would force cars to be sold with the appropiate amount of wheels |
| 20:40.17 | Fisker | If they really want to go that way, simply put in bandwitdh limits |
| 20:40.23 | Fisker | less ambiguous |
| 20:40.31 | Fisker | rather than throttling |
| 20:41.16 | karl_w_w | <Fisker> I would force the ISP to provide a service, just as much as i would force cars to be sold with the appropiate amount of wheels <- not relevant. throttled internet still works, cars with 3 wheels do not |
| 20:41.24 | Fisker | sure do |
| 20:41.44 | karl_w_w | more like you would force cars too all have supercar acceleration |
| 20:41.49 | Fisker | nope |
| 20:42.05 | Fisker | Messing with the packages to purposely delay them is like messing with the fundementals of a car |
| 20:42.13 | Fisker | What bandwitdh and rates are applied to that is irrelevant |
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| 20:43.45 | Archarodim | anyone knows why /dump ("Test\\ddd"):gmatch("^([^\\]+)\\")() doesn't work while /dump ("Test\\ddd"):gmatch("([^\\]+)\\")() does? |
| 20:43.58 | karl_w_w | you dont mess with them, you just dont send them as fast |
| 20:44.13 | Archarodim | the only difference is the '^' at the start of the pattern to match the start of the string |
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| 20:46.13 | Arrowmaster | Archarodim: if you are going to add a ^ to match the beginning of the string, WHY ARE YOU USING GMATCH? |
| 20:46.31 | karl_w_w | dont get angry now mr arrow |
| 20:47.10 | Arrowmaster | im just pointing out that he should be aware of the proper usage for the builtins |
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| 20:49.37 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gmatch |
| 20:49.48 | foxlit | Meh, Lua's weird that way |
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| 20:50.24 | karl_w_w | every day since the 19th of december i have gone to deepholm to look for the pebble daily quest, and I'm still 9/10 on the achievement |
| 20:50.27 | foxlit | It'd seem that not special-casing the behavior would be a more obvious choice, to hell with iteration. |
| 20:50.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont think its that weird, since if you want to anchor the match to the beginning of the string you shouldnt be using more expensive functions like gmatch to do it |
| 20:51.13 | karl_w_w | thats 9 times it's been the daily out of 101 days |
| 20:51.48 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: if you wanted to prevent that, it should error(), not create a new type of patterns where a leading ^ is literal. |
| 20:51.56 | Arrowmaster | now if this was in a language with a compiler that would optimize it so that it didnt really matter which you used, i would agree foxlit |
| 20:52.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah error() would be viable too |
| 20:53.21 | Arrowmaster | actually yeah i agree that it should error() |
| 20:53.22 | Archarodim | Arrowmaster: it's not me, it's in Buggrabber, it's a pattern which is part of a list of patterns to match... |
| 20:53.43 | Arrowmaster | oh? |
| 20:53.52 | Arrowmaster | good catch then |
| 20:53.58 | Arrowmaster | wonder who added it |
| 20:54.08 | Archarodim | see line 278 in current BugGrabber.lua |
| 20:54.10 | Dayle | anyone so kind as to help me figure out what's wrong with the wowace packager? it stopped packaging committed files. |
| 20:54.24 | Archarodim | 2nd parren doesn't work |
| 20:54.29 | Archarodim | *pattern |
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| 20:54.58 | Arrowmaster | Dayle: when did it break? |
| 20:56.34 | Dayle | last commit was on march 15th. i did another commit today and after an hour and half it still hasn't packaged anything |
| 20:57.14 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2753-packager-stuck/ and stuff? |
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| 20:57.24 | farmbuyer | The packager has been hung up on the same broken package all afternoon. |
| 20:57.57 | farmbuyer | It needs to skip broken shit and move on to the pending stuff. |
| 20:59.01 | Arrowmaster | hehe my name still shows up in svn blame BugGrabber.lua |
| 20:59.14 | karl_w_w | ive never understood why the packager doesnt have some sort of mechanism to skip a package if it isnt processed within say, 15 minuts |
| 21:00.19 | alestane | smoogles Cairenn and goes home. |
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| 21:00.33 | Cairenn | hugs alestane quick before he poofs |
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| 21:03.01 | zenzelezz | is that a euphemism? |
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| 21:05.26 | ckknight | Fisker: QoS is important. I don't want someone's multi-gig emails clogging up my tubes |
| 21:06.29 | Fisker | it won't clog your tubes when they stop overselling their product :) |
| 21:08.21 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 21:08.32 | Arrowmaster | maybe we should bring back header based QoS like the TOS header |
| 21:08.59 | Arrowmaster | im sure the majority of p2p clients would implement it if other software did too |
| 21:09.00 | Fisker | also i think 1GB e-mails can be handled differently than QoS, not that it would ever happen anyway |
| 21:10.40 | zenzelezz | RIAA would have a much easier task if P2P clients would implement the evil bit |
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| 21:12.30 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: where would be the best connection to the interlink? |
| 21:13.09 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: one problem with that is the same as the problem with the evil bit. Many would lie. |
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| 21:15.33 | Arrowmaster | with proper classifications i wouldnt see any advantage they would get from lie when they could just not specify one at all |
| 21:17.28 | foxlit | I view it as an advertising issue. |
| 21:18.25 | foxlit | If you're advertising a 10Mb/s connection, that should be a /lower/ bound on its throughput. |
| 21:18.49 | Arrowmaster | right now they advertise something in the middle |
| 21:19.39 | Arrowmaster | since what they advertise is what the connection will slow down to once a certain amount of traffic has been reached per connection |
| 21:20.10 | Arrowmaster | but you could get much lower, and you are likely to get a lot higher anytime you try a speedtest |
| 21:20.21 | Fisker | haha i remember that |
| 21:20.26 | Fisker | my ISP was rigging speedtest results |
| 21:20.36 | Arrowmaster | they all do and have been for years |
| 21:20.45 | Arrowmaster | and they even advertise it as a feature |
| 21:20.54 | Arrowmaster | mine calls it 'turboboost' |
| 21:20.55 | Fisker | :D |
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| 21:21.23 | zenzelezz | what, ISPs favouring bandwidth test sites? Next you'll be telling us videocard manufacturers tweak their drivers for 3DMark |
| 21:21.30 | Fisker | :D |
| 21:21.32 | Arrowmaster | i noticed that speedtest.net has a graph of speed over time for the test now though so you can see when the isp is doing that |
| 21:21.49 | Fisker | it was kinda annoying though |
| 21:21.53 | Fisker | had some bandwitdh issues |
| 21:21.57 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: not bandwidth test sites but favoring the first 20mb of a connection |
| 21:22.11 | Fisker | and everytime "lol go to speedtest and check, if that's how it should be then the connection to the other host is just poor" |
| 21:22.22 | zenzelezz | details :) |
| 21:22.29 | Arrowmaster | it almost makes me want to create a download manager that will stop and reconnect every 20mb |
| 21:22.43 | Fisker | but it was only for the danish servers, and it was exactly the amount i had, not as much as a bit over or under the advertised rate |
| 21:22.54 | zenzelezz | wonder if GetRight or any of them do that |
| 21:23.05 | zenzelezz | it's only up to version 012395 or something by now |
| 21:23.08 | Arrowmaster | doubt it since the size could vary by isp |
| 21:23.24 | Arrowmaster | shit i gota goto class |
| 21:23.39 | zenzelezz | could do some heuristics. "Hm, we started our four times as fast.. let's see if it's a coincidence" |
| 21:23.45 | zenzelezz | *out |
| 21:23.47 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:23.50 | Shadowed | that would be a fun idea Archarodim |
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| 21:32.40 | Fisker | yay |
| 21:32.44 | Fisker | no longer a busy day for battle.net |
| 21:32.51 | Fisker | now it's just 404 |
| 21:32.54 | karl_w_w | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1301343250926.png |
| 21:33.33 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.46 | Fisker | i should sue RIAA for all money in the world due to being jerks |
| 21:35.11 | Fisker | i wonder why they wrote american households have 5,7 trillion dollars in income |
| 21:35.17 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 21:35.27 | Fisker | ah |
| 21:35.28 | Fisker | i get it |
| 21:35.42 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 21:37.22 | Fisker | Darkspore Beta Now Available on Steam |
| 21:37.24 | Fisker | i came Ackis |
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| 21:41.36 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:42.09 | Fisker | i think Blizzard will close the EU forums permanently, since the QQ storm will be unbearable |
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| 21:59.10 | foxlit | Fisker: qqwho? |
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| 22:06.32 | Zyn | welp |
| 22:06.39 | Zyn | forums 404 now |
| 22:07.35 | Fisker | slaps Zyn around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:07.55 | Zyn | and its all cause of Fisker, we're sure of it |
| 22:08.34 | Lunessa | http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/adam_savage_s_obsessions.html - fun to watch. |
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