| 00:01.20 | Xinhuan | best video i've seen today |
| 00:01.21 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXPN4dfBAGU |
| 00:01.30 | Xinhuan | its the kids version of the nuclear situation in japan! |
| 00:02.30 | Xinhuan | meanwhile, a volcano in indonesia erupts |
| 00:06.36 | Ycarene | Anybody familiar with kgpanels? |
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| 01:29.44 | airtonix | Xinhuan: old |
| 01:30.08 | airtonix | Fisker: noumadbro |
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| 01:52.12 | Kraps | happy purim! |
| 01:53.14 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 01:53.35 | Kraps | ~wiki purim |
| 01:53.50 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 01:54.06 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 01:54.07 | purl | ~pong |
| 01:54.32 | mckenziemc | purl's slow with ~wiki :p |
| 01:54.43 | Kraps | i think she just woke up |
| 01:59.26 | Kraps | http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03/19/libya.explainer/ |
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| 02:18.32 | ccox | if drinking could convince me that this ear infection from H@#%$@#$% is a blessing, then I'll join the celebration |
| 02:19.20 | Kraps | wat |
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| 02:22.31 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.34 | airtonix | ɹÉÉ¥ ɹÉÉ¥ ɹÉÉ¥ |
| 02:29.17 | Thunder_Child | purim is also one of the few times you can see jewish girls in something a bit more risqué |
| 02:31.00 | airtonix | i'm disgusted in you |
| 02:31.22 | Thunder_Child | me? |
| 02:31.29 | airtonix | my rabbi will hear of this trangression by the lesser beings |
| 02:32.36 | Thunder_Child | your rabbi can go twiddle his peyos |
| 02:32.48 | airtonix | don't make me cry |
| 02:32.56 | mckenziemc | airtonix |
| 02:33.00 | mckenziemc | i don't believe in you |
| 02:33.12 | airtonix | i warn you, tears will flow |
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| 02:48.42 | Thunder_Child | i dont see no flowing airtonix |
| 02:49.44 | mckenziemc | blame the tampon |
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| 03:01.23 | mckenziemc | are Microsoft Windows product keys specific to a processor architecture (x86 vs x64) or will the same key work for either? |
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| 03:05.00 | A-KO | they work for either |
| 03:05.07 | A-KO | for Vista and 7 |
| 03:05.07 | A-KO | XP they are different |
| 03:05.36 | A-KO | XP64 is based on the 2003 code and is released as a separate product from Windows XP 32-bit editions |
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| 03:19.20 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: depends where you are |
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| 04:47.39 | Wobin | ok, any math geeks here? |
| 04:49.34 | ccox | more than a few |
| 04:51.06 | Wobin | ok |
| 04:51.11 | Wobin | We have the Taxiflightmap |
| 04:51.14 | Wobin | and the atlas map |
| 04:51.21 | Wobin | the scales on the two differ |
| 04:51.25 | Wobin | by how much, I don't know |
| 04:51.36 | Wobin | but transposing coordinates from one to another do not match up |
| 04:52.18 | Wobin | I -suspect- that applying a sliding scale, x wise, to the taximap will adjust the positions correctly |
| 04:52.28 | Wobin | ie, the larger x becomes, the more we shift it to the right |
| 04:52.36 | Wobin | y coordinates seem largely unaffected |
| 04:52.57 | ccox | I hope you mean just a linear scaling, and not a sliding scale |
| 04:53.12 | Wobin | I just need some magical number or equation to apply to get the appropriate positioning |
| 04:53.16 | Wobin | yeah |
| 04:53.19 | ccox | you can test that with 2 known corresponding points, but you may also need an offset |
| 04:53.26 | Wobin | well, I'm -hoping- it's a linear scaling |
| 04:53.42 | ccox | most likely it is, but I'd caculate an offset as well to be safe |
| 04:54.57 | Wobin | finding known points may be an issue |
| 04:55.07 | Wobin | I'm trying to place archeology sites on the flightmap |
| 04:56.19 | ccox | with one point, you could determine a scale or offset alone, but not both |
| 04:56.34 | ccox | you need 2 corresponding points to determine both scale and offset |
| 04:57.35 | ccox | (then more points for verification) |
| 04:57.48 | ccox | if there is a rotation involved, you'd need 3 points minimum |
| 04:57.54 | Wobin | Any ideas on how to provide those? |
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| 04:58.29 | Wobin | no rotation, I don't believe |
| 04:58.47 | ccox | find the coordinates in both systems for a node/site/point |
| 04:59.02 | ccox | and yeah, I doubt blizz rotates the coordinate systems too much |
| 04:59.24 | ccox | but they do shift offsets and scales a lot (even in some patches) |
| 04:59.30 | Shirik | all I can say is that my life is pretty plain |
| 04:59.43 | Shirik | hey ccox have you ever used TFS? |
| 04:59.51 | Wobin | the problem is, that the taximap is not the same scale or border as the atlas |
| 05:00.15 | Wobin | so the closer to the left side the digsite is, the more accurate, the closer to the right, the less accurate (tending towards the left) |
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| 05:01.03 | ccox | yeah, I'm enjoying the rain as well (but didn't Shannon Hoon die before you were out of grade school?) |
| 05:02.02 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: watching the series finally of farscape on netflix? your going to hate the ending |
| 05:02.05 | ccox | shrik - which TFS? MS Team Foundation Screwup? |
| 05:02.30 | Wobin | so I need something that's like, the larger x is, the more it adds to it |
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| 05:03.13 | ccox | Wobin: that would be a multiplicitive scale |
| 05:03.30 | Wobin | ok |
| 05:03.31 | mckenziemc1 | : / |
| 05:03.38 | ccox | Wobin: ie: result = xorigin + scaling * xbase |
| 05:03.58 | Wobin | from the looks of it, even just past halfway is fairly accurate |
| 05:04.07 | Wobin | it's the right half of the map that loses it |
| 05:04.38 | Wobin | Maybe if I 'extend' the flightmap width to try and match the atlas one |
| 05:20.23 | Wobin | ok, ccox, how about this. I have x coordinates as a 0-1 number with 0,0 being the topleft, now how can I transpose those coordinates, so that 0 for the x axis is in the middle of the frame? |
| 05:21.11 | ccox | wobin - if you know what the middle is (assuming 0.5), you would just subtract the new origin (0.5) |
| 05:21.33 | ccox | Wobin: so zero becomes -0.5, 1 becomes +0.5, and 0.5 becomes 0 (because it's the new origin) |
| 05:21.36 | Wobin | and then applying it on the other frame? |
| 05:22.29 | Wobin | hm, I don't think I'm making applicable sense =( |
| 05:22.57 | Wobin | the taxiframe is essentially square, the atlas is rectangular |
| 05:23.04 | ccox | also, transpose is probably the wrong word |
| 05:23.10 | Wobin | but scale aside, the coordinates should match up |
| 05:23.18 | Wobin | since I'm working on a 0-1 range |
| 05:23.25 | ccox | if both share the same origin (top left), then you would just apply a scaling |
| 05:23.54 | ccox | if they don't share an origin, then you have to find the origins, adjust one to the other, then find the scale |
| 05:24.08 | Wobin | Taxi WxH = 580x580, Atlas WxH = 1000x670 |
| 05:24.45 | Wobin | I'm -hoping- the centre axis remains the same for the two |
| 05:25.12 | ccox | if the centers are the same, then you find the center of both systems (290,290) and (500,335) |
| 05:25.43 | ccox | and the scales that adjust both (1000/580) and (670/580) |
| 05:28.17 | ccox | atlas_x = atlas_x_center + (taxi_x - taxi_x_center) * (1000/580) |
| 05:28.45 | ccox | atlax_y = atlas_y_center + (taxi_y - taxi_y_center) * (670/580) |
| 05:28.59 | Wobin | actually need to work for taxi_x/y |
| 05:29.10 | ccox | then reverse it |
| 05:29.53 | ccox | taxi_x = taxi_x_center + (atlas_x - atlas_x_center) * (580/1000) |
| 05:30.39 | ccox | (of course, you can simplify the math slightly, but I'm giving the long form for illustrative purposes) |
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| 05:52.30 | mikma | cogwheel: http://i.imgur.com/FG5rN.jpg |
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| 06:20.49 | Kraps | http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/73/93/74aef7e65fbc335a52ed868094eee3cd.jpg |
| 06:21.02 | Shirik | [2. Trade] [Kanoru]: so why does everyone say.. umadbro? are you actually curious if they are mad? or does it mean something else more apathetic |
| 06:21.06 | Shirik | can't tell if trolling |
| 06:23.09 | airtonix | it's an argument increment operator |
| 06:23.46 | airtonix | "hoho this is an dispassionate argument, and you just failed by getting angry" |
| 06:24.25 | karl_w_w | <Shirik> can't tell if trolling <- it is |
| 06:25.23 | airtonix | Shirik: i something you...:< |
| 06:27.17 | mikma | shirik: umadbro? |
| 06:27.33 | mckenziemc1 | karl_w_w: trolled |
| 06:30.17 | airtonix | mikma: do it with class Brosephine |
| 06:35.11 | Kraps | whos the old asian guy whos in scifi stuff? |
| 06:38.06 | Shirik | old asian guy? |
| 06:38.31 | mikma | george takei |
| 06:38.53 | Kraps | yeah thanks |
| 06:39.25 | Shirik | WHY |
| 06:39.31 | Shirik | WHY ARE WE MAKING MORE $2 BILLS |
| 06:39.42 | Shirik | THe whole point of us dropping it was it was pointless |
| 06:39.58 | mikma | it was it was |
| 06:40.04 | karl_w_w | I heard coins are op |
| 06:40.04 | mikma | yo dawg |
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| 06:43.31 | marmon | is there anywhere i can get a detailed list of changes occuring in patch 4.1? |
| 06:43.42 | marmon | (ie: ui code related stuff) |
| 06:47.45 | Corrodias | oh wow, i found a photograph of a bunch of people from here together, that i must have saved long ago |
| 06:48.33 | Corrodias | i guess i have nothing further to say about it. |
| 07:02.45 | Kraps | Corrodias: link it |
| 07:03.03 | mikma | bullcrap |
| 07:03.18 | mikma | i wanna buy a mp3 from amazon but it tells me to install some nazishit software |
| 07:04.27 | Corrodias | this is the same photo with a different label style. http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/Faces/Blizzcon2008UIGroupLabeled.jpg.html |
| 07:04.51 | mikma | We could not process your order. The sale of MP3 Downloads is currently available only to US customers located in the United States. |
| 07:05.24 | Corrodias | that happens because music labels don't want people to BUY music |
| 07:05.35 | mikma | yes indeedie |
| 07:05.44 | airtonix | imposed scarcity |
| 07:06.02 | mikma | tekkub looks cute in that photo |
| 07:06.02 | airtonix | i'm passing a law that make oxygen taxable |
| 07:07.14 | Shirik | every human is now required to count the number of breaths taken daily |
| 07:07.58 | mckenziemc1 | good thing i'm exempt, by nature of not being an airtonixian citizen |
| 07:08.03 | mikma | 1 |
| 07:08.06 | mikma | 2 |
| 07:08.14 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 07:08.14 | Shirik | mikma died |
| 07:08.36 | mikma | ffuuuuuuu |
| 07:08.40 | mikma | i sneezed |
| 07:08.42 | mikma | 1 |
| 07:08.45 | mikma | 2 |
| 07:08.54 | airtonix | i'm rich |
| 07:09.04 | mikma | riiiich biaaaatch |
| 07:09.35 | Shirik | Why does like every antidepressant also have a side effect of "increased thoughts of suicide" |
| 07:09.43 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:09.45 | Shirik | isn't that the exact opposite of what it's supposed to be doing? |
| 07:09.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:10.15 | mikma | shirik: cause it will make you think more about killing yourself, but it'll make you feel happy about it |
| 07:10.20 | airtonix | because sad isn't the opposite of happy |
| 07:10.48 | mikma | happy, angry |
| 07:10.51 | mikma | sad, ...? |
| 07:10.54 | mckenziemc1 | Shirik: because the human mind is that messed up |
| 07:10.58 | airtonix | mad |
| 07:11.09 | mikma | glad |
| 07:11.35 | airtonix | i'm passing a law that make rhymes taxable |
| 07:12.05 | mikma | as long as it's still faxable |
| 07:12.58 | mckenziemc1 | too bad it's axeable |
| 07:17.48 | mckenziemc1 | Shirik: actually, if memory serves, it's because of the anxiolytic effects -- the "no i shouldn't do that" part of your brain gets suppressed |
| 07:22.33 | Shirik | how do people smoke a pack a day |
| 07:22.39 | Shirik | that's a lot of money |
| 07:23.05 | mikma | a pack? imagine that some people smoke 2/3 |
| 07:23.15 | Shirik | that's insane |
| 07:23.22 | mikma | and yes, i've been around with person that smoked 2-3 packs. now he's very ill |
| 07:23.23 | Shirik | I mean totally disregarding the health effects |
| 07:23.46 | Shirik | It's not like I get paid minimum wage and I don't think I could afford that |
| 07:24.06 | mikma | here's a mental image |
| 07:24.16 | airtonix | <picture of nake mikma> |
| 07:24.22 | mikma | you sit in a Volkswagen Transporter, it has 3 seats. |
| 07:24.32 | mikma | 1 for driver and 2 for passangers, a double seat. |
| 07:24.40 | mckenziemc1 | that's all you can think of isn't it, airtonix |
| 07:24.50 | mikma | there's 3 persons sitting in the car, two of them smoke. you don't. |
| 07:25.23 | mikma | no matter where you sit in that small cabin, the smell is everywhere and basicly blocks you from breathing. superhappyfuntimes! |
| 07:28.22 | mikma | airtonix: here's the best one you will get: http://mikma.eu/2011-03-11%2023.39.44.jpg |
| 07:29.36 | Shirik | I ran out of milk :( |
| 07:30.03 | mckenziemc1 | i was out of milk, then i bought some today |
| 07:30.10 | mckenziemc1 | or, yesterday, technically |
| 07:30.13 | mckenziemc1 | milk and cookies! |
| 07:31.01 | mckenziemc1 | but the cookies were evil and gave me a stomachache |
| 07:31.23 | mckenziemc1 | (so what if it's my fault i ate too many) |
| 07:31.24 | Shirik | milk and casein |
| 07:31.25 | mikma | you should stick to cockies like tekkub |
| 07:32.09 | mckenziemc1 | hmm why does casein sound familiar |
| 07:32.13 | mckenziemc1 | ~wiki casein |
| 07:32.13 | airtonix | mikma: photo didn't download properly, is it your sex swing? |
| 07:32.34 | mikma | airtonix: nope. fix your internets. |
| 07:32.56 | mckenziemc1 | i think he'd rather not |
| 07:33.13 | airtonix | so you're in bed with your dad? |
| 07:33.23 | mikma | sure |
| 07:33.30 | mikma | except my dad is dead :( |
| 07:33.42 | airtonix | then who is that on the laptop? |
| 07:34.02 | mikma | there's no-one on the laptop |
| 07:34.15 | airtonix | ok |
| 07:34.41 | Shirik | mckenziemc1: An attractive property of the casein molecule is its ability to form a gel or clot in the stomach. The ability to form this clot makes it very efficient in nutrient supply. The clot is able to provide a sustained slow release of amino acids into the blood stream, sometimes lasting for several hours.[7] |
| 07:35.27 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:35.28 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:35.32 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:35.40 | Fisker | Hello ladies |
| 07:35.44 | mikma | my anti-trout sense is tingling |
| 07:35.58 | mikma | fisker may be near |
| 07:36.23 | mckenziemc1 | prepares a Distributed Denial of Trout attack |
| 07:36.30 | Shirik | more dots |
| 07:36.32 | Shirik | more dots now |
| 07:36.38 | Fisker | i dot u Shirik |
| 07:36.39 | Dagmar | moar dots! |
| 07:38.59 | mckenziemc1 | wait mikma |
| 07:39.07 | mikma | k |
| 07:39.12 | mckenziemc1 | wouldn't your anti-trout sense be quiet? |
| 07:39.26 | Fisker | oh god |
| 07:39.33 | mikma | no, it was tingling cause it should have reacted |
| 07:39.38 | mikma | but it didn't. more coffee. |
| 07:39.46 | mckenziemc1 | but there was trout present |
| 07:39.50 | Fisker | someone is suggesting they add durability to gathering items (And if they don't get repaired they're destroyed indefinitely) |
| 07:39.54 | mckenziemc1 | which should be an inhibitor |
| 07:39.55 | Fisker | Because he haven't seen bots repair! |
| 07:40.00 | Fisker | derp |
| 07:40.02 | mikma | i know, and the anti-trout didn't work |
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| 07:42.55 | Shirik | ............................ |
| 07:43.03 | Shirik | I think I just saw a commercial for a match.com for seniors |
| 07:43.19 | Dagmar | Yeah because the elderly really need that |
| 07:43.30 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:43.40 | Dagmar | A website to tell them "We can't find a match for your weird old self." |
| 07:43.42 | Fisker | you wouldn't Shirik |
| 07:44.22 | Fisker | would you? |
| 07:45.49 | Shirik | ok so I just saw a commercial for one of those antidepressants |
| 07:45.59 | mikma | feel happier? |
| 07:46.17 | Shirik | List of side effects: Depression worsens, Thoughts of suicide, Increased risk of death or stroke, Fevers, Confusion, Uncontrollable muscle movements, High blood pressure, Extreme high blood sugar, Decreases in white blood cells, Diziness, Seizures, Difficulty in swallowing, Impaired judgement, Impaired motor skills |
| 07:46.27 | Shirik | Are we sure we're not just killing ourselves? |
| 07:47.16 | airtonix | unlike you, i'm not using anti-depressants |
| 07:47.44 | Shirik | omg I got it |
| 07:47.57 | Shirik | these drugs are to kill off the people that use them because they wanted to commit suicide anyway |
| 07:48.09 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 07:48.12 | airtonix | Fisker: |
| 07:48.16 | Shirik | airtonix |
| 07:48.17 | Fisker | why won't anyone make a usb 3.0 mouse? |
| 07:48.19 | Fisker | damn jerks |
| 07:48.20 | Corrodias | Wrex. |
| 07:48.35 | mikma | umm |
| 07:48.38 | Shirik | Fisker, I will make a usb 4.0 mouse |
| 07:48.40 | mikma | why would you need one fisker? |
| 07:48.45 | Fisker | there's no usb 4.0 Shirik |
| 07:48.45 | airtonix | Fisker: your mouse has that many lazors? |
| 07:48.47 | Kraps | ICANN approves .XXX red-light district for the Internet |
| 07:48.52 | airtonix | old |
| 07:48.54 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 07:48.57 | Fisker | crap |
| 07:49.02 | Dagmar | For 7,684,000 positional samples per second mice |
| 07:49.03 | airtonix | INB4 FISKER |
| 07:49.31 | airtonix | Fisker: i came in before you |
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| 07:49.34 | Fisker | wut Dagmar :o |
| 07:50.04 | Dagmar | Fisker: Perhaps you have a mouse with a built-in full-body scanner? |
| 07:50.26 | Dagmar | I can't imagine wtf a mouse would need USB 3 for |
| 07:50.36 | Dagmar | Nothing rational, at any rate |
| 07:50.59 | Corrodias | my mouse requires the additional bandwidth because i want to daisy-chain devices from it. |
| 07:51.17 | Fisker | you don't have to adjust polling rates Dagmar >:3 |
| 07:51.31 | Fisker | haha octopus mouse Corrodias ? |
| 07:51.57 | Corrodias | doesn't that sound fun? |
| 07:53.28 | Dagmar | I have just seen something more wrong. |
| 07:53.38 | Dagmar | Someone wrote a minecraft proxy in Haskell |
| 07:55.03 | Iriel | Dagmar: heh, interesting choice |
| 07:55.50 | Shirik | so I just watched kill bill vol 2 |
| 07:55.57 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 07:56.05 | mikma | Highway.2010.DVDRip.XviD-RADiOACTiVE |
| 07:56.08 | Shirik | this would be an appropriate time for mybrainisfulloffuck.jpg |
| 07:56.18 | Fisker | you probably didn't expect that right Shirik ? |
| 07:56.45 | Shirik | not exactly |
| 07:57.19 | mikma | right at 03:00 -> challenging unmasked police car :D |
| 08:00.16 | mikma | bye bye police |
| 08:00.33 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:00.36 | Fisker | should i be a madman? |
| 08:00.38 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 08:00.50 | Shirik | commercial for "perfect situp": "Traditional situps are hard to do" |
| 08:00.54 | Shirik | no shit, it's called exercise |
| 08:01.39 | Dagmar | ONOES |
| 08:01.42 | Kraps | My roommate and I have been in four fist fights. Each one was over a video game. The most recent incident happened when I traded every pokemon in his platinum version with magikarps and held them ransom for beer. |
| 08:01.44 | Kraps | -Anonymous |
| 08:01.54 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 08:01.58 | Dagmar | OMG |
| 08:02.16 | Dagmar | Magikarp was a low blow |
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| 08:02.40 | mikma | those crazy swedes ( /me pokes mikk ) still know how to make good streetracing films |
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| 08:17.07 | Fisker | i'm a jerk Shirik |
| 08:17.21 | mikma | jerks need to be punished |
| 08:18.58 | Fisker | normally i'd agree |
| 08:31.42 | Shirik | are you a black magic woman Fisker? |
| 08:39.52 | Shirik | USS Barry |
| 08:39.56 | Shirik | what an awful name for a ship |
| 08:41.34 | Fisker | yes Shirik |
| 08:43.23 | zenzelezz | why's that so bad? |
| 08:44.38 | Fisker | swedes are jersks |
| 08:44.39 | Fisker | right haste ? |
| 08:48.35 | Fisker | tackles haste |
| 08:54.56 | bluspacecow | is fisker a swede ? |
| 08:54.58 | bluspacecow | or a radish ? |
| 08:56.45 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 08:56.51 | bluspacecow | im thinking rutabaga |
| 08:57.42 | Corrodias | oh fuck, i love those |
| 08:58.08 | Corrodias | i wish i had some RIGHT NOW |
| 08:59.06 | airtonix | so not three minutes ago? |
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| 09:03.11 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 09:03.16 | Fisker | don't make me turn that gift around |
| 09:03.18 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 09:03.25 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 09:03.50 | bluspacecow | it was kinda bugged .. for some reason the screen shot was firing when i pressed turn left -_ |
| 09:04.08 | bluspacecow | turning the community features off fixed it. |
| 09:06.32 | bluspacecow | but thank you tho |
| 09:06.56 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/4e137c02-aa84-437b-8230-f4be77a589ee.jpg |
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| 09:14.51 | airtonix | http://imgur.com/gallery/Vtx3a |
| 09:17.29 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/Kinjc |
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| 09:19.03 | bluspacecow | kk gotta get to works |
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| 09:23.03 | Fisker | i am the best person in the world airtonix |
| 09:23.12 | airtonix | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/NVabw.png |
| 09:28.09 | zenzelezz | for those who enjoy word play: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-dancing-with-the-undead.jpg |
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| 09:58.50 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 09:59.48 | Fisker | mitch0 |
| 09:59.50 | Fisker | mitchnull |
| 09:59.52 | Fisker | F5 me |
| 10:00.01 | airtonix | Fisker: would you buy beef jerky from usa? |
| 10:00.41 | Fisker | no |
| 10:00.53 | Fisker | i would rather destroy you |
| 10:01.16 | airtonix | challenge accepted |
| 10:01.33 | airtonix | stops Fisker |
| 10:06.50 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 10:06.55 | Fisker | i will destroy you |
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| 10:15.43 | Fisker | http://www.theonion.com/articles/microsoft-word-now-includes-squiggly-blue-line-to,19739/ <-lol'd |
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| 10:20.21 | Fisker | stupid bluspacecow |
| 10:20.35 | Fisker | you just bound your screenshot key to the same key |
| 10:20.38 | Fisker | jerk |
| 10:20.40 | bluspacecow | oh hai to u |
| 10:20.52 | Fisker | hey |
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| 10:43.11 | harl | wuff! |
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| 11:23.30 | airtonix | Fisker: |
| 11:23.44 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/KXeRq.png |
| 11:35.28 | Adys | Fisker! |
| 11:37.55 | Fisker | Adys! |
| 11:38.05 | Adys | We're both young and viral. Let's run off together. |
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| 11:38.32 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 11:38.43 | Corrodias | virile |
| 11:38.43 | Corrodias | i hope |
| 11:39.01 | Adys | You hope. |
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| 12:03.29 | bluspacecow | i found 2 chests in minecraft ... like with stuff in em :) |
| 12:09.01 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 12:09.06 | jnwhiteh | its called a dungeon =) |
| 12:09.13 | jnwhiteh | there was probably a mob spawner in the room as well :P |
| 12:13.31 | tlund | has there been a post anywhere about the IPv6 support on the PTR? The option is there, but it is grayed out :) |
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| 12:16.55 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:16.56 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:17.20 | Fisker | maybe their infrastructure isn't in place yet? |
| 12:17.24 | Fisker | Or yours isnt? |
| 12:17.31 | tlund | mine is. |
| 12:18.15 | Fisker | then i'll guess the first option |
| 12:18.46 | tlund | yeah, well, thats not really what i asked, sorry .) |
| 12:21.03 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 12:22.39 | airtonix | loophole detected |
| 12:25.17 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 12:27.26 | airtonix | Fisker: why you gotta do that |
| 12:34.17 | Fisker | do what? |
| 12:44.23 | mikma | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-fun-facts1.jpg |
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| 13:09.10 | zenzelezz | "Since chips are placed in a wide variety of products, this could have disastrous effects on the entire economy. As entire industries grind to a halt, millions could lose their jobs, and the economy could be thrown into turmoil." => "Exactly the way the collapse of the vacuum tube industry killed the economy, I hope." |
| 13:13.03 | A-KO | what? |
| 13:13.06 | A-KO | zenzelezz? |
| 13:13.11 | zenzelezz | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11/03/20/0413224/Michio-Kakus-Dark-Prediction-For-the-End-of-Moores-Law |
| 13:13.38 | A-KO | yeah, not going ot happen because of quantum chips. I could see if he was talking about silicon shortages or something |
| 13:13.39 | A-KO | sure |
| 13:13.41 | A-KO | that could cause issue |
| 13:15.31 | Fisker | slaps A-KO around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:15.34 | A-KO | the cessation of Moore's Law won't really matter much. After all, there are still many improvements to be made to processors, chips, etc. Not to mention there are still areas of our lives that could use the chips in new products. |
| 13:15.40 | A-KO | picks up the trout and slaps Fisker back. |
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| 13:28.37 | mikma | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-wwbgd.jpg |
| 13:31.12 | airtonix | http://lesscss.org/ |
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| 13:37.24 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:37.26 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:37.57 | airtonix | i'm outragously awesome Fisker |
| 13:38.08 | airtonix | it's almost heretical |
| 13:40.54 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:53.33 | Kraps | know what i hate about purim? masquerades and drunks |
| 13:53.58 | Kraps | and the deadly combo, masquerading drunks |
| 13:55.43 | airtonix | what ever that is |
| 13:56.11 | Kraps | your face airtonix |
| 13:57.29 | airtonix | Wobin: i lurv internode |
| 13:57.45 | airtonix | 256 kbps quota free restreams of DI |
| 13:58.19 | airtonix | http://www.internode.on.net/residential/entertainment/broadband_radio/ |
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| 14:00.45 | foxlit | http://us.media.blizzard.com/blizzard/_images/community/fanart/en-us/ss1296.jpg |
| 14:01.04 | airtonix | inb4fiskeroldfoxlit |
| 14:01.09 | foxlit | I'm mildly confused. |
| 14:01.33 | airtonix | it's a hunter in priest gear |
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| 14:02.33 | foxlit | Both of them look like they're crying :/ |
| 14:02.54 | airtonix | i would too if i was in the game |
| 14:03.02 | airtonix | godrays |
| 14:03.04 | airtonix | lol |
| 14:05.03 | airtonix | Fisker: (fwiw a lot of IPv6 web sites are FASTER than their IPv4 counterparts due to low utilisation) |
| 14:05.06 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 14:05.21 | airtonix | http://blog.iinet.net.au/web/ |
| 14:06.23 | A-KO | The largest improvement is the lack of NAT IMO |
| 14:06.28 | A-KO | when your router doesn't have ot mangle every packet |
| 14:06.34 | airtonix | not my point |
| 14:06.37 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.11 | airtonix | also i doubt people are going to stop using nat just because there are more addresses available |
| 14:10.37 | A-KO | the only thing that would keep NAT around is if ISPs charged per device |
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| 14:11.30 | airtonix | ok you're in charge of all the customers as they sign up. enjoy the support calls for every new device they want online |
| 14:11.37 | airtonix | guests to customers homes included |
| 14:11.52 | airtonix | i don't see nat going away |
| 14:12.11 | A-KO | uhm, why would they need to call for every new device? |
| 14:12.38 | airtonix | because the isp is obviously going to have to pay for a certain amount of ipv6 addresses |
| 14:12.57 | A-KO | uuuh |
| 14:13.05 | A-KO | do you know how many addresses they get? |
| 14:13.27 | A-KO | The addressing is so ridiculously large that the costs of v6 addressing is much smaller than v4 |
| 14:13.35 | airtonix | there's still a cost |
| 14:13.49 | airtonix | and they only get a certain amount |
| 14:14.11 | A-KO | Firstly, the *smallest* network you can buy is conceivably a /64, period. I mean, you *could* go smaller but they're being pretty hardcore of having a network/host split at the /64 mark. |
| 14:14.23 | A-KO | So the *smallest* ipv6 network on the new ipv6 internet will have 2^64 hosts |
| 14:14.48 | A-KO | ISPs are buying /32s-/48s |
| 14:14.53 | A-KO | and /30s |
| 14:14.53 | mikma | haste: http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/03/02/funny-facebook-fails-combo-breaker/ :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 14:14.54 | A-KO | and all that |
| 14:15.18 | A-KO | ISPs are getting address space *per ISP* that dwarfs the current IPv4 internet for the whole world |
| 14:15.51 | airtonix | you assume that there is only going to be 1 ip address requested per person on the planet |
| 14:15.58 | sylvanaar | people think that NAT gives them protections that ipv6 doesnt |
| 14:16.33 | sylvanaar | do the math, how many ip's each for say 8 billion people |
| 14:16.59 | A-KO | likely 4-5, at best |
| 14:17.10 | airtonix | lawl |
| 14:17.16 | A-KO | the entire address space for the v6 internet is 2^125 |
| 14:17.28 | airtonix | +all schools, governement buildings etc etc |
| 14:17.44 | A-KO | airtonix: I highly doubt that any one of those locations has 2^64 computers per network |
| 14:17.46 | sylvanaar | http://www.perturb.org/display/IPV6_Math.html |
| 14:17.55 | sylvanaar | the number per person is huge |
| 14:18.02 | A-KO | sylvanaar: that number is a bit off |
| 14:18.08 | A-KO | since they only allocated 2000::/3 for the v6 internet |
| 14:18.25 | sylvanaar | lets say its off by 100 |
| 14:18.28 | airtonix | customers using nat at their router access makes it more convienent for the ISP |
| 14:18.30 | sylvanaar | sorry |
| 14:18.33 | airtonix | in terms of workload |
| 14:18.38 | sylvanaar | 2 orders of magnitude |
| 14:18.57 | sylvanaar | this guys says 51557934381960373252026455671 per person |
| 14:18.57 | A-KO | airtonix: there's no workload increase needed--the router will have its prefix address that it will be multicasting to the network (which every v6 host joins the v6 multicast range) |
| 14:19.21 | A-KO | and then every host generates (currently) a 64-bit host address from its 48-bit MAC address, and attaches the prefix to it |
| 14:19.22 | A-KO | BAM |
| 14:19.26 | A-KO | ipv6 global address |
| 14:19.36 | foxlit | 32-bits-per-person is enough to give you an ip address for every second of your miserable existance. |
| 14:20.16 | sylvanaar | lets get people migrated to it first |
| 14:20.19 | A-KO | ISPs don't have to assign any addresses to any person, they assign prefixes. |
| 14:20.20 | A-KO | that's it |
| 14:20.24 | A-KO | the rest is handled by the devices |
| 14:21.15 | foxlit | Which leaves what, 96 bits to express which person the 32-bit number refers to? |
| 14:21.52 | A-KO | well, ISPs are getting /30s and /32s, and then they divvy up from there to hand out /48's, /52's, /56's, and so forth |
| 14:21.56 | A-KO | up to /64 |
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| 14:22.06 | A-KO | and many ISPs are getting multiple /30's and /30's |
| 14:22.10 | A-KO | /32's* rather |
| 14:22.34 | sylvanaar | i wish they would actually use them |
| 14:22.41 | foxlit | The /x notation is mildly meaningless to me :( |
| 14:22.50 | A-KO | so realistically, per /32 they get, they can then divvy up to 2^32 companies (if they handed out all /64's, but that's unrealistic) |
| 14:22.55 | foxlit | It's either x reserved bits or x allocatable bits, and those are polar opposites :( |
| 14:23.04 | foxlit | Can never remember which one. |
| 14:24.24 | A-KO | it's simple, it's the number of bits for the network prefix |
| 14:24.43 | foxlit | so reserved bits. |
| 14:24.46 | sylvanaar | i guess /32 's are like /8 's (class-a) in ipv6 |
| 14:24.54 | A-KO | so if an ISP buys a /32, with that *single* /32, they could potentially allocate another 4 Billion networks off of that /32 |
| 14:24.56 | A-KO | *not counting the hosts* |
| 14:25.14 | A-KO | and *each* of those /64 networks could have another 2^64 hosts per network |
| 14:25.19 | A-KO | the numbers are unfathomably large |
| 14:25.39 | sylvanaar | yes but you are leaving out how many /32s there are |
| 14:25.53 | A-KO | 2^29 |
| 14:25.59 | A-KO | lol |
| 14:26.12 | sylvanaar | i mean you are not taking it into account |
| 14:26.14 | A-KO | but of course, they're not quite allocating exactly like that |
| 14:26.32 | sylvanaar | there are enough for everyone to have their own |
| 14:26.33 | A-KO | but the numbers are just so unfathomably insane that trying ot make sense of it w/o utilities is difficult |
| 14:26.57 | A-KO | oh yeah there's enough |
| 14:27.26 | A-KO | there are websites out there that show the v6 adoption |
| 14:27.29 | A-KO | as to who owns which prefixes |
| 14:27.49 | A-KO | IANA gave out numbers to the various RIRs, and the RIRs are divying out to the ISPs and whatnot |
| 14:28.10 | A-KO | major ISPs already have their v6 assignments |
| 14:28.35 | A-KO | Typically, your average customer was *supposed* to get a /48, per RFC recommendation--but the ISPs fought back on that, which I suppose is rightfully so. |
| 14:28.44 | A-KO | Not every customer is going to utilize 65,535 subnets |
| 14:29.00 | A-KO | Home customers are VERY likely to get /64's |
| 14:30.58 | sylvanaar | seems ok at this point in history |
| 14:31.32 | A-KO | My only concern with the v6 addressing is the fact that they want to use that EUID64 crap |
| 14:31.34 | A-KO | which sucks |
| 14:31.41 | A-KO | They're fighting *hard* to get rid of DHCP |
| 14:31.46 | mikma | http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/02/26/funny-facebook-fails-socially-awkward-penguin-3/ |
| 14:32.05 | sylvanaar | i dont like automatic addresses on principal, but they do work |
| 14:32.48 | airtonix | A-KO: why |
| 14:33.18 | sylvanaar | you dont need dhcp when you have a huge address pool |
| 14:33.29 | A-KO | sylvanaar: yeah, the problem with EUID64 is that it's built off of a MAC--which is a privacy conern. |
| 14:33.37 | A-KO | your 64-bit host address will be the same no matter hwich network you're on |
| 14:33.42 | A-KO | Starbucks, work, home, hotel |
| 14:33.43 | A-KO | etc. |
| 14:33.47 | airtonix | wut? |
| 14:33.52 | airtonix | ok course you will |
| 14:34.25 | A-KO | airtonix: the way it works is the router advertises the network prefix (or the host can ask for it), and some other information such as dns, and that's that. It's more like a very small subset/reconfiguration of DHCP. |
| 14:35.11 | sylvanaar | the devices make guesses as to what ip they should have and check for collisions |
| 14:35.11 | airtonix | so how do you auto configure things like : gateway, custom dns server, etc etc |
| 14:35.43 | airtonix | maybe i don't want guest devices using certain ip ranges |
| 14:35.54 | sylvanaar | they will be using their own |
| 14:35.58 | airtonix | ie : student laptops at university |
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| 14:38.02 | A-KO | airtonix: there's still a lot of ambiguity there |
| 14:38.06 | A-KO | there *is* a DHCPv6 specification |
| 14:38.13 | A-KO | which I would imagine most people will still use |
| 14:38.17 | sylvanaar | http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2007/03/IPv6.ars/2 |
| 14:38.31 | sylvanaar | stateless autoconfiguration |
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| 14:38.34 | sylvanaar | is the term |
| 14:38.53 | airtonix | A-KO: most australian educational institutions are required by law to force all internal users to access external WAN via http proxy only |
| 14:39.43 | airtonix | pretty much anyone that gets money from the government for the purposes of running a educational institution has to agree to that |
| 14:43.01 | A-KO | so? |
| 14:43.11 | A-KO | you can still provide proxy information |
| 14:43.26 | A-KO | hmm |
| 14:44.09 | airtonix | ok now i understand the 'never ip conflict' part due to hoping a company never accidentally sells a nic with identical mac addresses |
| 14:44.31 | airtonix | soon they'll have to expand the mac addressing system too |
| 14:45.48 | A-KO | airtonix: not necessarily, I think the idea is that it's very rare that 2 hosts with the same MAC would share the same network |
| 14:45.52 | airtonix | or are they hoping macaddress on device X sold today will just die and break in 5 years and therefore stealthly re-use that macaddress in 5 years time? |
| 14:46.14 | Xinhuan | they can reuse if they have some "trade in your old card" system :P |
| 14:46.39 | A-KO | and it's not particularly a huge deal, considering if for some reason the mac thing doesn't work out you can just flip on DHCPv6 |
| 14:47.21 | A-KO | there's also an attempt at trying to generate automatic addresses randomly each time--but this could play hell if you need to make firewall policies to those devices. |
| 14:48.59 | bluspacecow | why am i reading the minecraft wiki in teh voice of the computer from Portal ? |
| 14:50.44 | Xinhuan | nerd |
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| 14:53.44 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 14:54.37 | A-KO | We just have ah uge conversation about ipv6, and you call bluspacecow the nerd? |
| 14:54.42 | A-KO | lol |
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| 14:55.19 | bluspacecow | in the nicest possible way of course :) |
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| 15:02.04 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/perus_rankalaiset.jpg |
| 15:04.34 | Kraps | oh thats funny mikma |
| 15:05.36 | zenzelezz | what the hell; if I want to play a mage in DA2, I can't have Bethany tag along? |
| 15:05.54 | karl_w_w | wtf |
| 15:06.03 | foxlit | outrage! |
| 15:06.07 | karl_w_w | i take the portal to hyjal and a warden kills me |
| 15:06.14 | karl_w_w | before im even done loading |
| 15:06.18 | foxlit | zenzelezz: no all-mage party for you. |
| 15:06.43 | zenzelezz | foxlit: apparently not... that annoys me quite a lot actually |
| 15:07.06 | foxlit | Meh, having played a mage, I'm unsympathetic. |
| 15:07.45 | zenzelezz | I played a warrior until level 15 or something and started having major issues with healing, so I wanted to go healer instead... but that apparently takes away one of my desired companions instead |
| 15:07.51 | zenzelezz | bleh |
| 15:08.24 | foxlit | Invest in tanking instead? |
| 15:08.31 | zenzelezz | I was a tank |
| 15:08.41 | zenzelezz | problem was the game kept taking away my healers |
| 15:08.58 | foxlit | Meh, I coasted through it with just Anders. |
| 15:09.00 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/mi3YR.jpg |
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| 15:09.22 | foxlit | Kraps: clearly the BBC is having some fun |
| 15:10.04 | Kraps | clearly, net neutrality = orwellian society |
| 15:10.16 | airtonix | zenzelezz: i played a dwarven rogue |
| 15:10.19 | airtonix | fun stuff |
| 15:10.28 | zenzelezz | in DA2? |
| 15:10.31 | airtonix | yeah |
| 15:10.51 | zenzelezz | did I miss where you can select being a non-human race? |
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| 15:14.27 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:15.41 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/wzXeK.jpg |
| 15:16.39 | Fisker | i don't get it Kraps |
| 15:17.08 | Kraps | are you looking for insults Fisker? |
| 15:17.10 | bluspacecow | commander sheppard avenue |
| 15:17.21 | bluspacecow | stargate atlantis fan ? |
| 15:17.25 | Fisker | i don't get it bluspacecow |
| 15:17.30 | Fisker | lulz bluspacecow |
| 15:17.47 | foxlit | In unrelated news: the rock wraith seems like the difficulty peak of DA2 |
| 15:18.06 | Kraps | why stargate atlantis :( |
| 15:18.18 | nevcairiel | Cmdr Shepard is also the guy from mass effect, but sg:a was around before |
| 15:18.21 | Fisker | sheppard isn't even a commander on SG:A |
| 15:19.23 | nevcairiel | He is a Colonel, because he is in the air force, commander is a navy word :p |
| 15:19.46 | bluspacecow | oh my |
| 15:19.49 | bluspacecow | i stand correcte |
| 15:19.50 | bluspacecow | d |
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| 15:20.48 | Fisker | i thought he only got promoted to major |
| 15:21.22 | Fisker | oh wait |
| 15:21.32 | Fisker | Rank |
| 15:21.32 | Fisker | Lieutenant Colonel, formerly Major |
| 15:21.33 | Fisker | hah! |
| 15:22.04 | karl_w_w | in your face Fisker! |
| 15:23.37 | Kraps | hey Fisker http://i.imgur.com/6f31A.jpg |
| 15:24.45 | karl_w_w | whoever took that screenshot fails at screenshots |
| 15:26.28 | airtonix | i just had someone who talks "leik dis cun u plz tok nurml" |
| 15:26.37 | airtonix | Fisker: FUUUUUU |
| 15:26.45 | Kraps | more apple http://i.imgur.com/KXeRq.png |
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| 15:30.03 | airtonix | Fisker: fucking ENGLISH how does it work!!!! |
| 15:30.32 | airtonix | Kraps: i will kill you |
| 15:30.47 | Kraps | airtonix: you cant |
| 15:31.02 | airtonix | are you riding my coattails biatch? |
| 15:32.54 | Kraps | who wears coattails these days? |
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| 15:35.34 | airtonix | aristocrats |
| 15:37.44 | Kraps | StarCraft 2 open beta begins in China on March 29 |
| 15:38.11 | Xinhuan | why do they need a open beta lol |
| 15:38.18 | Xinhuan | surely the software's stable by now |
| 15:39.10 | nevcairiel | The chinese probably required stupid changes again |
| 15:39.15 | nevcairiel | there was a panda in it, or something |
| 15:39.29 | karl_w_w | ~wiki marketing |
| 15:39.29 | greppy | had to remove all undead graphics. |
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| 15:46.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/871565-WoW-Interface-has-ruined-the-game.?p=10801339 <- LOL |
| 15:46.52 | A-KO | speaking of ipv6 |
| 15:46.57 | A-KO | I'm now on both the ipv6 and v4 internet... |
| 15:47.00 | A-KO | now to get mIRC to recognize it... |
| 15:47.18 | Fisker | lulz A-KO |
| 15:47.23 | A-KO | like |
| 15:47.26 | A-KO | google works fine |
| 15:47.28 | A-KO | I can ping, resolve |
| 15:47.33 | A-KO | but mIRC won't resolve v6 hostnames.. |
| 15:48.43 | Fisker | sure will |
| 15:50.15 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: winter voices 1-3 are on sale atm |
| 15:52.04 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: have you played it? |
| 15:52.20 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: nope. but i thought you said you wanted it |
| 15:52.42 | Kraps | hmm |
| 16:01.56 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:01.57 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:02.13 | Thunder_Child | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 16:02.13 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 16:05.48 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: think i'll wait till they're all out |
| 16:11.10 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: roger that |
| 16:11.52 | airtonix | Adys: have you used kodos ? |
| 16:11.53 | bluspacecow | bbl |
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| 16:12.02 | Adys | no idea what that is |
| 16:12.17 | airtonix | Adys: tool to quickly test out and build regex patterns for python |
| 16:12.33 | Adys | i think teomyr used that |
| 16:12.37 | Adys | or was it regexbuddy |
| 16:16.39 | Alram | empties a bucket of Fisker on Adys and runs off |
| 16:16.51 | Adys | thats disgusting, i hate you |
| 16:17.43 | Alram | i love you too ~ |
| 16:21.34 | Fisker | slaps Alram around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:21.48 | Alram | :( |
| 16:22.53 | Shirik | 10-027-917 |
| 16:22.57 | Shirik | wrong chat |
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| 16:27.28 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:27.52 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a CZE ID |
| 16:30.03 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/fpt-chem.jpg halp. |
| 16:30.52 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:31.04 | foxlit | 3 reactors, fisker. |
| 16:31.07 | foxlit | A cruel joke? |
| 16:31.30 | nevcairiel | what is that? |
| 16:31.46 | foxlit | http://www.spacechemthegame.com/ |
| 16:32.13 | karl_w_w | lol, just watch a rogue hearth to sw |
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| 16:32.26 | karl_w_w | he was standing in front of the tb portal to sw at the time |
| 16:32.32 | airtonix | Shirik: nice number |
| 16:32.41 | Shirik | thank you! |
| 16:32.54 | foxlit | They patched the TB portal at some point, I take it? |
| 16:32.54 | airtonix | No give ze rest of ze launch codes |
| 16:33.03 | karl_w_w | patched? |
| 16:33.11 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: i've seen mages teleport from a bank to the same citys port location, because its closer to where they want to go |
| 16:33.12 | foxlit | It used to lead to the mage tower, iirc |
| 16:33.30 | Dagmar | Laaaaazy |
| 16:33.42 | airtonix | stop moving the text |
| 16:34.00 | Shirik | oh crap |
| 16:34.11 | Shirik | I just realized why I'm getting more honor points than I should |
| 16:34.22 | Shirik | Ackis, do judges get honor points for being judges? |
| 16:34.45 | Shirik | If not, "Base Points: 20, Win Points: 3, Loss Points: 1, Volunteer Points: 2" what is "Volunteer points"? |
| 16:35.06 | karl_w_w | i cant think of a single situation that would be faster nevcairiel :P |
| 16:35.23 | karl_w_w | and if it did, no it doesnt anymore foxlit |
| 16:36.01 | nevcairiel | not in sw, because ports come out in that freaking tower |
| 16:36.33 | karl_w_w | true |
| 16:42.00 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: ah it needs mono? |
| 16:42.07 | foxlit | Yep :( |
| 16:42.24 | Kraps | i play homefront |
| 16:42.48 | Arrowmaster | guess if i want to install the demo i need to remove mononono |
| 16:42.53 | Fisker | i came |
| 16:43.07 | Fisker | why didn't EA continue their darkspore beta this week |
| 16:43.09 | Fisker | i r disappoint |
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| 17:08.04 | Kraps | why do 99% of multiplayer servers have stupid namnes? |
| 17:08.40 | Kraps | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/19/blizzard-surprisingly-hopeful-for-the-old-republics-success/ |
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| 17:13.14 | wereHamster | is there a good prospecting/jewelcrafting adon? |
| 17:13.31 | Fisker | when asked by the police if he was in possession of any drugs the drug dealer said "No" |
| 17:13.39 | Fisker | call cnn |
| 17:13.43 | Fisker | this is news |
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| 17:14.18 | Fisker | don't you agree Kraps ? |
| 17:17.35 | Kraps | no Fisker |
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| 17:18.55 | Fisker | why not Kraps |
| 17:18.56 | Fisker | ? |
| 17:19.11 | Kraps | ! |
| 17:19.34 | Fisker | ? |
| 17:20.03 | Kraps | ! |
| 17:21.27 | Kraps | i dont get it http://blastr.com/2011/03/why-you-should-be-glad-th.php |
| 17:22.12 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 17:22.14 | Shirik | I'll fly with you |
| 17:22.29 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 17:22.41 | Shirik | I'm GLaD |
| 17:23.22 | Shirik | I'm GLaD I'm not you |
| 17:23.29 | Shirik | (this is where Fisker would say "hoho") |
| 17:23.31 | Cide | it's a lie |
| 17:23.41 | wereHamster | hwo do I use panda to mass-prospect? |
| 17:25.07 | Kraps | Shirik: why are you glad? |
| 17:29.06 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8EBCU-iEPAM |
| 17:30.48 | Kraps | cool, i started a fight in the kotaku chat room on steam because of homefront |
| 17:32.39 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:32.42 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 17:32.46 | Fisker | WHY NOT KRAPS? |
| 17:32.59 | Kraps | what? |
| 17:33.51 | Fisker | [18:14:16] <Fisker> don't you agree Kraps ? |
| 17:33.51 | Fisker | [18:17:34] <Kraps> no Fisker |
| 17:34.49 | Kraps | dude |
| 17:37.18 | Fisker | dude |
| 17:38.18 | Shirik | I think I just found the worst portal player ever |
| 17:38.24 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teLDBp9YK_k |
| 17:38.37 | Kraps | i'm pretty bad Shirik |
| 17:38.47 | Shirik | no seriously |
| 17:38.48 | Shirik | watch it |
| 17:38.52 | Shirik | he is so bad |
| 17:39.28 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 17:39.29 | Fisker | why not? |
| 17:39.42 | Kraps | hey guys, can i use wowuidev as a clad tag in homefront? |
| 17:39.49 | Kraps | clan* |
| 17:42.35 | Kraps | Shirik: |
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| 17:50.50 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 17:50.51 | Fisker | why not? |
| 17:50.52 | Fisker | hey Tuller |
| 17:56.23 | foxlit | Blah blah (blah blah blah. Blah blah,) blah blah. |
| 17:56.38 | foxlit | That is so a parse error. |
| 17:56.53 | Kraps | my friend's wife is hot |
| 17:57.26 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 17:57.27 | Fisker | why not? |
| 17:58.39 | Tuller | nachos |
| 17:59.02 | Kraps | i'll kill your dick Fisker |
| 17:59.25 | Fisker | kill it Kraps |
| 17:59.27 | Fisker | hey Tuller |
| 17:59.31 | Fisker | i was thinking you could do stuff |
| 17:59.38 | Tuller | such as? |
| 18:00.05 | foxlit | "This particular word, in many particular circumstances, usually serves no particular purpose. Give particular attention to the particular prospect of cutting it out." << People writing style guides have too much fun. |
| 18:00.13 | Fisker | maybe one could make customizable filters/bookmarks in combuctor |
| 18:00.27 | Fisker | or wait |
| 18:00.46 | Fisker | i meant bagnon |
| 18:01.30 | Fisker | why do you have like 2 bag addons? that's like super confusing :< |
| 18:01.31 | Tuller | while i've played around with it, its really more of a combuctor feature I think |
| 18:01.38 | Fisker | :< |
| 18:01.52 | mckenziemc1 | maybe one could use TBag instead |
| 18:02.13 | Fisker | maybe one could have sex with a goat |
| 18:02.21 | Tuller | i have two bag addons because bagnon is too popular |
| 18:03.00 | Fisker | oh the you're throwing the money-card |
| 18:03.12 | Fisker | teehees |
| 18:03.16 | Tuller | money card? |
| 18:03.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:03.36 | Fisker | like the race card |
| 18:04.58 | Tuller | now i'm even more confused :P |
| 18:05.56 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_card |
| 18:06.00 | Fisker | wikipedia to the rescue |
| 18:06.52 | Kraps | dond you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racecard |
| 18:06.53 | Tuller | i know of the race card, i'm just wondering why it's involved in this context with respect to the money card |
| 18:07.23 | karl_w_w | cos they are both cards and Fisker is simple |
| 18:07.32 | Fisker | i'm suggesting you're only keeping bagnon due to the money from addon income |
| 18:07.33 | Fisker | :D |
| 18:07.43 | Tuller | ah, nope :P |
| 18:09.07 | Tuller | what I did find funny about bagnon, is that i forgot to update it pre patch one time |
| 18:09.25 | Tuller | so it broke, then I received more than the usual donations when I fixed it |
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| 18:09.53 | karl_w_w | These guys make an MMO about war? Where's that blood, the fury, that boisterous arrogance? There's just one answer: Morhaime and Pearce must both play Alliance. |
| 18:10.01 | greppy | Tuller: that is both awesome and sad. btw... I <3 Bagnon |
| 18:10.03 | karl_w_w | ive never heard such a laughable comment in my life |
| 18:12.21 | karl_w_w | can you open a trade skill window in lua? |
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| 18:17.36 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: cast the associated spell (for instance First Aid) |
| 18:18.07 | karl_w_w | yeah |
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| 18:23.18 | Kraps | http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/swears_2.jpg |
| 18:26.36 | karl_w_w | oh btw guys important information: generation kill is awesome |
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| 18:29.22 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
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| 18:31.45 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 18:31.48 | Fisker | do you want some cock sauce |
| 18:31.59 | Kraps | what is that? |
| 18:32.14 | Fisker | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sriracha |
| 18:32.55 | zenzelezz | coworker said it's something roughly Band of Brothers-like about the war in Afghanistan (I think it was... or maybe Iraq) |
| 18:33.40 | nevcairiel | what is? |
| 18:33.50 | zenzelezz | Generation Kill |
| 18:34.00 | nevcairiel | i only know BoB itself or the pacific, and both were magnificient |
| 18:34.05 | Iriel | To whoever it was who linked that awful song "Friday" the other day -- Have you seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxleH60hDJY ? |
| 18:34.56 | Fisker | why do you think it is awful? |
| 18:34.58 | karl_w_w | iraq |
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| 18:36.07 | foxlit | teehee "ratings have been disabled for this video" on the original |
| 18:37.05 | Kraps | Iriel: win |
| 18:37.30 | Fisker | omg |
| 18:37.43 | Iriel | I actually was able to watch THIS one all the way through, but the original I had to stop before the end. |
| 18:37.50 | Fisker | my headache just got 1up'd |
| 18:38.03 | Fisker | who did she sleep with for a contract? |
| 18:38.09 | Fisker | or does she have rich parents? |
| 18:38.32 | foxlit | aw, he didn't break a mirror :( |
| 18:38.52 | Kraps | shes like 13 so i dont think she slept with anyone |
| 18:39.42 | Fisker | why not? |
| 18:40.18 | Kraps | In an interview with The Daily Beast, Black's mother, Georgina Kelly, recalls how a classmate of Black informed her of Ark Music Factory, a Los Angeles record label that allowed young singers to gain experience in the industry by recording a track for a fee. Kelly paid Ark Music $2,000 for a package that included a choice of two pre-written songs. |
| 18:40.31 | Pneumatus | that's some pretty brutal vocoder usage |
| 18:41.31 | Kraps | After reading the harsh reviews of her song, Black said that "those hurtful comments really shocked me". Ark Music offered to take the video down from YouTube, but Black refused the offer, saying that she did not wish "to give the haters the satisfaction that they got me so bad I gave up". |
| 18:42.15 | Pneumatus | disabling comments is enough for haters to get the satisfaction that they got her so bad |
| 18:42.20 | Kraps | lul simon cowell |
| 18:42.22 | Kraps | Simon Cowell told People Magazine of his praise of Black, saying: "I love her [and] the fact that she's gotten so much publicity. People are so upset about the song, but I think it's hysterical." Also adding "I want to meet her. Anyone who can create this much controversy within a week, I want to meet. I love people like that." |
| 18:44.38 | zenzelezz | you just know her second song will be "Haters gonna hate" |
| 18:45.17 | karl_w_w | wow |
| 18:45.30 | karl_w_w | this is the most pointless function ive ever seen |
| 18:46.15 | karl_w_w | function TitanUtils_Ternary(a, b, c) if (a) then return b; else return c; end end |
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| 18:46.36 | foxlit | karl_w_w: quick, write a replacement |
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| 18:47.00 | foxlit | "(a and b or c)", you say? |
| 18:47.27 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 18:47.38 | karl_w_w | do i? |
| 18:47.56 | Fisker | what's that site with free audio licensed on cc? |
| 18:48.10 | foxlit | dunno; it seems like wanting the ternary operator is not as pointless as you make it out to be :) |
| 18:48.33 | Cide | for most cases it is |
| 18:48.54 | zenzelezz | VB knew all about this, giving us the greatly named Iif |
| 18:49.19 | Cide | you would require very specific circumstances to not be able to rewrite a?b:c as (x and y or z) |
| 18:49.42 | Pneumatus | what about a?:c though! |
| 18:50.14 | Cide | ? |
| 18:50.27 | Iriel | foxlit: Yours doesn't work if b is nil or false |
| 18:50.36 | foxlit | Iriel: that was kind of my point. |
| 18:50.44 | Iriel | ok good 8-) |
| 18:50.46 | Cide | but it can usually be rewritten through negations |
| 18:50.54 | Cide | to be equivalent but functional |
| 18:50.55 | zenzelezz | I think PHP 5.3 introduced the "a?:b", which basically means "a?a:b" |
| 18:51.05 | Pneumatus | yeh, it does :) |
| 18:51.17 | Cide | "a or b"? |
| 18:51.22 | Iriel | Pneumatus: in lua "a or b" does that |
| 18:51.30 | foxlit | WTB world markers as a SecureActionButtonTemplate action type |
| 18:52.22 | Pneumatus | this ^^ |
| 18:52.44 | Pneumatus | being unable to place them because of dropdownmenu getting tainted by pretty much everything is annoying++ |
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| 19:01.22 | Cide | agreed |
| 19:01.28 | Kraps | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/3942979085/were-going-to-leave-zuckerberg-in-the-dust-and |
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| 19:10.28 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 19:10.29 | Fisker | why not? |
| 19:10.51 | Kraps | FiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFisker |
| 19:11.03 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 19:13.53 | Kraps | Fisker: http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/memes-u-fancy.jpg |
| 19:16.56 | Kraps | this is pretty good actually http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/demotivational-posters-edward-cullen1.jpg |
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| 19:17.56 | Fisker | i don't feel so well Kraps |
| 19:18.13 | Kraps | i have gum Fisker |
| 19:18.17 | Kraps | you want? |
| 19:18.33 | Fisker | no |
| 19:23.29 | karl_w_w | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_western <- in wikipedia land, 1 show and a handful of tenuous links make a genre! |
| 19:24.03 | karl_w_w | "Another notable example would be the anime/manga Trigun, which actually differs from most space westerns by actually taking place entirely on one planet, that planet just happens to not be Earth." LOL |
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| 19:25.24 | Kalroth | karl_w_w, and a movie! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409847/ |
| 19:27.01 | Jamash | or four anime, six books, fourteen movies, eight computer games and seven TV series? |
| 19:27.42 | Kraps | dont knock the space western! |
| 19:27.58 | karl_w_w | being set on another planet doesnt make it a space western |
| 19:28.27 | Jamash | there are spaceships in trigun |
| 19:28.27 | karl_w_w | having some sort of element of cowboy-ness about it doesnt make it a space western |
| 19:28.30 | Cide | firefly alone is enough to make a genre imo |
| 19:29.01 | Shirik | huh |
| 19:29.05 | Shirik | AT&T bought T-Mobile |
| 19:29.36 | karl_w_w | you cant be in a genre of 1 |
| 19:30.09 | Jamash | sure you can |
| 19:30.13 | Kraps | karl_w_w: my metal fan brother would disagree with you |
| 19:30.22 | Jamash | that's what "sui genreis" means |
| 19:30.23 | Cide | you have a fan brother? |
| 19:30.36 | zenzelezz | if you can't be alone in a genre, then no single piece could ever be said to have started a new genre; it would take two at a minimum |
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| 19:31.03 | karl_w_w | you dont say zenzelezz |
| 19:31.20 | zenzelezz | it's my roundabout way of saying "I disagree" |
| 19:31.38 | karl_w_w | well what you said is no reason to disagree :P |
| 19:32.21 | zenzelezz | to me it is |
| 19:32.34 | Shirik | you guys are totally missing the point |
| 19:32.43 | Shirik | what's important here is that Kraps's brother might kill him |
| 19:32.53 | Shirik | I assume he doesn't turn his brother off at night |
| 19:33.05 | Cide | yeah |
| 19:33.07 | Cide | metal fans are dangerous |
| 19:33.21 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death |
| 19:33.30 | Kraps | ignores everyone |
| 19:33.30 | karl_w_w | nothing in history has ever started a genre |
| 19:33.35 | karl_w_w | its how genres work |
| 19:33.44 | Shirik | hugs Kraps |
| 19:33.49 | karl_w_w | sure something might have been unique |
| 19:34.04 | karl_w_w | and other people came along and said oh thats cool im going to write something like that |
| 19:34.12 | karl_w_w | then they can be grouped together and called a genre |
| 19:34.12 | Iriel | Shirik: What? When? |
| 19:34.24 | Shirik | huh? |
| 19:34.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:34.31 | Shirik | like, just now |
| 19:34.44 | Shirik | http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/atandt_to_acquire_deutsche_telekoms_t_mobile_usa_for_39_billion/2011/03/20/AB50P81_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage |
| 19:34.44 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:35.10 | Jamash | washingtonpost is using an invalid security certificate |
| 19:35.12 | Iriel | Hm, that's not good. |
| 19:35.16 | Iriel | I might need to move to Verizon now |
| 19:35.31 | Shirik | are you on t-mobile? |
| 19:35.32 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:35.40 | Iriel | Yes, I am. |
| 19:35.50 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:35.51 | Fisker | hey |
| 19:35.55 | zenzelezz | that deal will need FCC approval or something, I imagine? |
| 19:36.17 | Jamash | we have no anti-trust in the USA anymore |
| 19:36.22 | Jamash | anyone can buy anyone |
| 19:36.29 | Iriel | I suppose it'll take months before it actually happens |
| 19:36.40 | Shirik | dude if I was the FCC I would be like "Yeah go ahead you guys need it" |
| 19:36.43 | Kraps | is currently listening to Puddle Of Mudd - She Hates Me |
| 19:36.52 | Pneumatus | if it's anything like T-mobile UK being bought out by Orange, they still exist independantly |
| 19:37.00 | Jamash | if I was the FCC I'd revoke Fox News' broadcast license |
| 19:37.49 | zenzelezz | if I was the court of Strasbourg, I'd convict Fox News for crimes against humanity |
| 19:38.38 | Shirik | I'm not sure I'd revoke their broadcast license |
| 19:38.45 | Shirik | Perhaps reclassify them to fiction/comedy or something |
| 19:38.53 | Shirik | fantasy would work |
| 19:39.08 | Shirik | Change the rating of fox news to TV-Y7-FV |
| 19:39.21 | zenzelezz | what does that mean? |
| 19:39.39 | Shirik | FV = Fantasy violence |
| 19:40.37 | Jamash | I'd classify them as obscene |
| 19:40.52 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/KSetM.jpg |
| 19:41.39 | Shirik | omg wtb |
| 19:42.10 | Fisker | i wouldn't wtb |
| 19:42.10 | Jamash | it's telling about the regulatory climate in this country that you can't show a nipple on TV for five seconds but you can broadcast obvious falsehoods 24/7 |
| 19:42.14 | Fisker | anyway Kraps |
| 19:42.14 | zenzelezz | how can you use a mouse on that carpet? Can't be an optical one |
| 19:42.15 | Fisker | why not? |
| 19:42.51 | Jamash | zenzelezz: you can identify optical mice by just looking at the top? |
| 19:43.12 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: damn you, now ive spent 3 hours on that demo and im stuck, im probably just completely overthinking this problem though |
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| 19:43.30 | zenzelezz | Jamash: it was a guess because I didn't see any red glow on the carpet, and because I've never had an optical mouse that worked well on such a surface |
| 19:43.37 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: screenshot :P |
| 19:43.38 | Fisker | haha Shirik |
| 19:43.39 | zenzelezz | so more like a question than a statement |
| 19:43.39 | Fisker | you are doomed |
| 19:43.46 | Fisker | AT&T bought T-Mobile :( |
| 19:43.55 | Jamash | zenzelezz: my mouse uses infrared |
| 19:43.57 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The newer laser mice are good at dealing with those kinds of surfaces |
| 19:44.10 | Shirik | except I'm on verizon Fisker |
| 19:44.11 | Fisker | i still want an USB 3.0 mouse |
| 19:44.11 | zenzelezz | Jamash: does infrared count as optical? |
| 19:44.17 | Jamash | zenzelezz: yes -_- |
| 19:44.18 | Fisker | except your face Shirik |
| 19:44.21 | zenzelezz | Shirik: didn't know that, I must only have older ones |
| 19:44.40 | Shirik | also microsoft came out with this new technology that works surprisingly well |
| 19:44.43 | Shirik | something about blue |
| 19:44.47 | Shirik | it even works on glass |
| 19:45.15 | Shirik | http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/tracklanding.mspx |
| 19:45.20 | Shirik | bluetrack |
| 19:45.33 | Pneumatus | sounds like logitech's darkfield |
| 19:45.58 | Jamash | I like when they say "<name of technology>tm" only available from <company that owns trademark> |
| 19:46.06 | zenzelezz | when we're talking about stupid things, why can I use my Xbox controller from halfway across the house, but my TV remote I have to nearly beg to hit the right spot? I seriously doubt the chips in the controllers are that much more expensive |
| 19:46.28 | Kraps | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/funny-facebook-sarah-momf.png |
| 19:46.47 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: http://arrowmaster.net/screens/Screenshot-SpaceChem.png |
| 19:46.56 | Jamash | zenzelezz: you have to have some kind of pairing system for radio, which increases device complexity |
| 19:47.00 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: you dont what to see my attempts |
| 19:47.35 | foxlit | Didn't get to a pipeline assignment yet? |
| 19:47.52 | Arrowmaster | i have but there isnt one for this level |
| 19:47.53 | Fisker | facebook should be illegal Kraps |
| 19:48.08 | Jamash | zenzelezz: also then you couldn't use a universal remote |
| 19:48.09 | Shirik | come to think about it I have a darkfield mouse Pneumatus |
| 19:48.24 | Fisker | i darkfielded your mom Shirik |
| 19:48.36 | zenzelezz | Jamash: I don't care about universal remotes; but that's a fair point |
| 19:48.37 | foxlit | My personal observation is that you can get two distinct tracks through a single-atom pickup point if you avoid putting an arrow at that cell |
| 19:48.39 | Pneumatus | ditto, logi performance MX |
| 19:48.56 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: yeah ive done that a few times already |
| 19:49.05 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: but i need 3 for this |
| 19:49.16 | foxlit | Use the other waldo |
| 19:49.23 | Shirik | what we need to do is stop using mice |
| 19:49.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats my current attempt im trying to plan out |
| 19:49.35 | Shirik | we could do so much more work if it wasn't for mice and keyboards |
| 19:49.51 | Arrowmaster | my previous ones tried to involve rotations |
| 19:49.54 | Shirik | wtb star trek computer |
| 19:50.09 | Jamash | the statement "better than optical, better than laser" is nonsensical |
| 19:50.15 | foxlit | That is probably overthinking things |
| 19:50.49 | Kraps | you should be illegal Fisker |
| 19:50.51 | foxlit | You can reposition the bonder, then drop the H/N atoms on top of them, and only then do you have to bind :) |
| 19:53.49 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 19:53.55 | Fisker | not until you can answer my question |
| 19:54.39 | mckenziemc1 | Fisker: no |
| 19:54.45 | mckenziemc1 | there, now you can be illegal |
| 19:56.21 | Jamash | Fisker is already illegal in 83 countries and 37 US states |
| 19:57.04 | Fisker | that wasn't an answer to my question mckenziemc1 |
| 19:57.44 | Jamash | Transporting Fisker across national borders requires a permit from the IAEA |
| 19:58.04 | zenzelezz | Fisker does not pass W3C validation |
| 19:58.27 | Fisker | i wouldn't want to pass w3c validation anyway |
| 19:58.53 | Jamash | It is forbidden to bring more than 3 ounces of Fisker aboard any commercial aircraft |
| 19:59.44 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 20:00.24 | mckenziemc1 | yes it was, Fisker |
| 20:00.32 | Fisker | no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:00.46 | mckenziemc1 | prove it |
| 20:01.22 | Fisker | [21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
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| 20:01.45 | Kraps | [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:01.53 | mckenziemc1 | timestamp is wrong, therefore your proof is invalid |
| 20:01.59 | Fisker | [21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:02.18 | Kraps | [04:01:59]<Fisker>[21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:02.19 | mckenziemc1 | (1:01:56 PM) Fisker: [21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:02.29 | mckenziemc1 | :( |
| 20:02.31 | Kraps | [04:02:19]<mckenziemc1>(1:01:56 PM) Fisker: [21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:02.37 | Fisker | [21:02:30] <Kraps> [04:02:19]<mckenziemc1>(1:01:56 PM) Fisker: [21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:02.49 | Kraps | [04:02:37]<Fisker>[21:02:30] <Kraps> [04:02:19]<mckenziemc1> (1:01:56 PM) Fisker: [21:01:44] <Kraps> [04:01:23] <Fisker>[21:00:30] <Fisker> no it wasn't mckenziemc1 |
| 20:04.16 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: yeah serious fucking overthinking it http://arrowmaster.net/screens/Screenshot-SpaceChem-1.png |
| 20:04.53 | Jamash | slaps Kraps and mckenziemc1 around a bit with Fisker |
| 20:06.28 | mckenziemc1 | ~whaletrout Jamash |
| 20:06.28 | purl | ACTION slaps Jamash with Hugh's more acrobatic cousin, Milliardo, who in turn slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:07.05 | Arrowmaster | next one looks interesting too, make H2O2 from H2 and O2 |
| 20:07.18 | Kraps | this channel need more BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM http://inception.davepedu.com/ |
| 20:07.28 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 20:09.11 | mckenziemc1 | old Fisker |
| 20:09.17 | Fisker | old mckenziemc1 |
| 20:09.36 | mckenziemc1 | new Fisker |
| 20:10.05 | mikma | cogwheel: your server is fiskered |
| 20:10.15 | cogwheel | wut? |
| 20:11.21 | cogwheel | its probably minecraft.net |
| 20:11.23 | Kraps | fisker is servered |
| 20:11.41 | mikma | cogwheel: i blame you, fiskeruuu |
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| 20:14.51 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 20:14.58 | cogwheel | wut? |
| 20:15.02 | Fisker | you will grant access |
| 20:15.57 | cogwheel | you shall not pass (my whitelist check) |
| 20:16.03 | Fisker | i shall |
| 20:16.18 | mikma | i managed to find a backdoor in cog's whitelist |
| 20:22.48 | A-KO | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATT-to-Acquire-TMobile-USA-bw-2991954577.html?x=0 |
| 20:23.15 | Jamash | old A-KO |
| 20:23.15 | Fisker | old A-KO |
| 20:23.33 | karl_w_w | old Jamash |
| 20:23.34 | Fisker | old Jamash |
| 20:23.36 | Jamash | jinx Fisker |
| 20:23.37 | Fisker | damnit |
| 20:23.40 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 20:24.07 | Arrowmaster | doesnt T-Mobile already rent a majority of their rural towers from ATT? |
| 20:24.34 | Fisker | and so what? :o |
| 20:25.09 | mikma | cogwheel: is there any way of connecting without minecraft.net? |
| 20:25.36 | cogwheel | not without opening up a back door :> |
| 20:25.55 | mikma | do eet doo eeeeet |
| 20:26.01 | Fisker | anyway cogwheel |
| 20:26.05 | Fisker | whitelist |
| 20:26.05 | Fisker | me |
| 20:27.05 | mikma | WAIT! IS A TRAP! |
| 20:27.14 | mikma | fisker will fisker everyone in there |
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| 20:30.00 | cogwheel | Fisker: http://pastey.net/147910 |
| 20:30.20 | cogwheel | O NO I DI'INT |
| 20:30.54 | jnwhiteh | = |
| 20:30.56 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:31.08 | jnwhiteh | minecraft.net is down =( |
| 20:31.09 | jnwhiteh | that's sad face |
| 20:31.28 | Fisker | nothing 5 minutes couldn't have fixed cogwheel |
| 20:33.12 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: fix it! |
| 20:33.20 | jnwhiteh | make it go! |
| 20:34.00 | cogwheel | l2loginbeforeitgoesdownandnotcrash |
| 20:34.02 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 20:34.14 | jnwhiteh | psh. |
| 20:34.43 | mckenziemc1 | l2playabettergamecalledwow |
| 20:34.43 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 20:34.48 | Fisker | whitelistfisker |
| 20:35.00 | mikma | cogwheel: oh my, owned. |
| 20:35.02 | Jamash | yellowlists Fisker |
| 20:35.11 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i am trying to get him HAXX the server |
| 20:35.50 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: have you seen the new style door launcher? |
| 20:35.59 | cogwheel | dunno |
| 20:36.04 | cogwheel | probably not |
| 20:36.14 | jnwhiteh | in the terminus basement :P |
| 20:36.27 | mckenziemc1 | door launcher? O.o |
| 20:36.33 | Shirik | door launcher? |
| 20:36.36 | mikma | cogwheel: i even linked it for you! |
| 20:36.36 | Shirik | do I want to ask? |
| 20:36.50 | mikma | shirik: no, it's cheap to see axchully |
| 20:37.02 | cogwheel | fascinating |
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| 20:38.49 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3FypxSVDRI |
| 20:38.53 | cogwheel | Shirik: l2context? |
| 20:40.16 | Shirik | I'm confused |
| 20:40.21 | Shirik | why is it a door launcher if it's not launching doors |
| 20:40.37 | jnwhiteh | because it uses a door to launch |
| 20:40.39 | cogwheel | it's a launcher that uses a door for its operation |
| 20:40.43 | jnwhiteh | english word order, quite flexible =) |
| 20:40.48 | mikma | shirik: stop fiskering damnit |
| 20:40.51 | Jamash | ubintrolledbyshirik |
| 20:40.58 | Shirik | no seriously |
| 20:41.02 | Shirik | it should be a cart launcher |
| 20:41.13 | jnwhiteh | they're all cart launchers |
| 20:41.13 | cogwheel | it is. it's a door launcher that launches carts. |
| 20:41.25 | jnwhiteh | so to distinguish from other cart launchers that don't use doors |
| 20:41.34 | Shirik | so what is the purpose? |
| 20:41.43 | Shirik | then again |
| 20:41.47 | Shirik | I guess I should say that about the whole game |
| 20:41.50 | cogwheel | to get a cart you're sitting in moving |
| 20:41.51 | Shirik | but that's another story |
| 20:41.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:42.10 | mikma | shirik: working train that takes you anywhere the track goes |
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| 20:46.54 | mikma | did you guys see the kinect in minecraft? |
| 20:47.13 | Shirik | no |
| 20:47.30 | cogwheel | Shirik: same "why" as people building model train sets imo |
| 20:47.33 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2mCDkqXki0 |
| 20:47.43 | mikma | cogwheel: you need to do this |
| 20:48.04 | mikma | make a huge lava-cog in the middle |
| 20:48.11 | mikma | like the statues in LOTR |
| 20:50.33 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
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| 20:52.21 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:53.59 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: victory! |
| 20:54.29 | cogwheel | woot |
| 20:54.29 | Shirik | nice mikma |
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| 20:57.34 | Tuller | att is buying tmobile it seems |
| 20:59.08 | Fisker | old |
| 20:59.09 | Jamash | old Fisker |
| 20:59.16 | cogwheel | at&t... it's like at&t all over again... |
| 20:59.24 | Fisker | AT&T&T-Mobile |
| 20:59.30 | Fisker | getit? |
| 20:59.40 | cogwheel | i'm ashamed that made me chuckle |
| 21:00.09 | Fisker | maybe you should whitelist a fisker |
| 21:00.32 | Shirik | hey mikma |
| 21:00.42 | Shirik | Iwas thinking |
| 21:00.47 | Shirik | what does the kinect have to do with that at all |
| 21:00.48 | Jamash | unlikely |
| 21:01.13 | Jamash | Shirik: depth camera |
| 21:01.22 | mikma | shirik: captures the image you want in realtime |
| 21:01.30 | mikma | and yeah, 3D also |
| 21:01.30 | Shirik | Jamash answered correctly |
| 21:01.40 | Shirik | the latter part could be done by any camera |
| 21:05.08 | Shirik | google fail: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/49adac0d9022f963257dfc33c9cff5b0.png |
| 21:05.57 | Cide | seems more like bbc news fail to me |
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| 21:13.54 | Shirik | I have decided the wikimedia tech team is actually pretty stupid |
| 21:14.07 | Shirik | that wikipedia remains up as long as it does is nothing short of a miracle |
| 21:14.19 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.33 | Mikk | just need to review the design choices to realize that |
| 21:14.53 | Mikk | contrary to popular belief, SQL is not made of win |
| 21:15.04 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: online-mode=false =) |
| 21:15.26 | Jamash | SQL is made of fail and bad |
| 21:15.43 | Shirik | Mikk: Wikipedia just went down for about 30 seconds because one of their techs was like "oh I need to make some changes to code dododo ok done synchronize all" |
| 21:15.58 | Shirik | and then "oh shit I should have tested first" |
| 21:15.58 | Jamash | replicate replicate replicate |
| 21:16.01 | Mikk | why test on the private server eayh |
| 21:16.02 | Mikk | =P |
| 21:16.11 | foxlit | What's this silly SQL hate? :P |
| 21:16.12 | Shirik | what's worse is he didn't learn from his mistake |
| 21:16.35 | Mikk | SQL has uses when tying together non-realtime business systems, yes |
| 21:16.49 | Mikk | simply because there isn't anything better :> |
| 21:17.05 | Shirik | (14:10:15) (+logmsgbot) !log catrope ran sync-common-all | (14:10:43) (RoanKattouw) Whooops | (14:11:47) (+logmsgbot) !log catrope synchronized php-1.17/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.hooks.php 'Fix fatal'| (14:12:30) (+logmsgbot) !log catrope synchronized php-1.17/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php 'rm duplicate call' |
| 21:17.24 | foxlit | "Mikk: why test on the private server eayh" << this is also problematic |
| 21:17.30 | Shirik | he fixed the problem, and then a minute later did THE EXACT SAME THING AGAIN |
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| 21:18.08 | foxlit | In that you aren't very likely to be able to duplicate wikipedia's server setup at home. |
| 21:18.17 | Mikk | this isn't some home dev |
| 21:18.32 | Mikk | he's sitting at wikimedia deploying untested code on their live servers |
| 21:18.48 | Mikk | they have the capabilities and the responsibility to test |
| 21:19.46 | foxlit | One wonders if they have non-live servers. |
| 21:21.36 | Mikk | if they don't, one would have to wonder why the hell not |
| 21:21.51 | Mikk | i mean even ace3 has test cases and it's a hobby project for chrissakes |
| 21:22.08 | mckenziemc | i imagine there are plenty of dead servers sitting around in our landfills |
| 21:22.10 | Mikk | our web server at work has it, we're a 100 man company in a narrow niche |
| 21:22.42 | Mikk | (no it has nothing to do with web servers) |
| 21:22.43 | karl_w_w | is it me or is sourceforge a pitifully slow website |
| 21:22.46 | foxlit | And they're a non-profit organization that presumably relies, to some degree, on volunteers. |
| 21:22.55 | Mikk | karl_w_w: you and the rest of the world. it's horridly slow. |
| 21:23.07 | foxlit | Priorities. If their servers take a 30 second dive, they aren't losing much. |
| 21:23.52 | Mikk | Yeah because one Pentium 500 with enough disk to run a small wikimedia db is so expensive? |
| 21:24.03 | Mikk | That's how much it takes to do a sane amount of test cases |
| 21:24.28 | Mikk | Like, oh, editing an article |
| 21:25.01 | Mikk | They don't even have to write the bots to do the automated editing. There exists several. |
| 21:25.21 | Mikk | (And testing to make sure they don't stop working is worthwhile in and of itself, win win) |
| 21:25.51 | Mikk | rambles |
| 21:29.08 | Jamash | mozilla has had tinderbox set up for... I don't even know how many years |
| 21:29.55 | Jamash | and that's a setup involving numerous binary platforms, wikepedia is a single interpreted platform |
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| 21:34.54 | Shirik | I have a fingerbox |
| 21:35.03 | Jamash | a box full of fingers? |
| 21:35.23 | Jamash | that was the classy response, btw |
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| 21:35.44 | zenzelezz | so in GIMP, I've saved some settings for the JPEG format as defaults... why do I have to press "Load defaults" to use them? I thought the idea of defaults was they'd be the settings used when the JPEG dialog was opened |
| 21:35.59 | Jamash | zenzelezz: GIMP was written by space monkeys, for space monkeys |
| 21:36.13 | zenzelezz | true |
| 21:36.59 | Jamash | it has possibly the worst user interface of any major desktop application I've ever used |
| 21:37.42 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:37.44 | Fisker | man |
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| 22:32.16 | jnwhiteh | I thought about implementing a minecraft server in Go today |
| 22:32.24 | jnwhiteh | it lasted about 17 minutes. |
| 22:34.05 | haste | :D |
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| 22:54.18 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:54.25 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 22:54.27 | Fisker | i want to sleep |
| 22:54.33 | Fisker | ¨¨¨¨¨ |
| 22:54.43 | Fisker | a |
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| 22:56.48 | mckenziemc | euthanizes Fisker. |
| 22:57.05 | mckenziemc | enjoy your sleep Fisker |
| 22:57.29 | haste | me too Fisker |
| 22:57.32 | haste | gn |
| 22:58.09 | mckenziemc | euthanizes haste too |
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| 23:13.01 | Mikk | hummmm Go seems fun |
| 23:13.12 | Mikk | (i just read the go faq) |
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| 23:13.38 | Mikk | and having come from the C / C++ world, via Lua, Go has ... appeal? |
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| 23:14.29 | cralor | win: http://i.imgur.com/NjFrU.png |
| 23:16.00 | Seerah | cralor: rofl |
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| 23:16.52 | Mikk | jnwhiteh: did you try writing something serious-ish in Go? |
| 23:18.34 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: i've written quite a bit, including a 22 page research paper |
| 23:18.36 | jnwhiteh | why? =) |
| 23:18.51 | jnwhiteh | its the vehicle for my PhD at the moment |
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| 23:32.30 | Mikk | jnwhiteh: just curious.. we have some code that could benefit from something like Go but is written in hacky C |
| 23:32.39 | Mikk | or hacky C++ |
| 23:32.41 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 23:32.45 | jnwhiteh | I like a lot about it |
| 23:32.53 | jnwhiteh | its not perfect, but then again nothing but lambda calculus is =) |
| 23:33.01 | Mikk | heck even the goroutines could be useful for some parts |
| 23:33.37 | Mikk | my concern would be how well it maps onto a C project where you want fast access to data structs |
| 23:33.45 | jnwhiteh | data structs are easy |
| 23:33.46 | Mikk | think "millions of packets per second" fast :P |
| 23:34.18 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 23:35.00 | Mikk | oh and throw in a few dozen CPU cores for added fun |
| 23:35.48 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 23:35.56 | jnwhiteh | Go's not very good at multicore stuff right now, actually |
| 23:36.01 | jnwhiteh | it does quite well |
| 23:36.08 | jnwhiteh | but the scheduler is far from optimised |
| 23:36.11 | Mikk | yeah i saw - OS context switching fun |
| 23:36.18 | Mikk | but that's OS dependant |
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| 23:37.02 | Mikk | so can i fairly easily grab hold of a pointer to a C struct and go to town on it? |
| 23:37.37 | jnwhiteh | you don't need a C struct |
| 23:37.42 | Mikk | there will be a C struct |
| 23:37.51 | jnwhiteh | if you're interfacing, then yes. |
| 23:37.57 | jnwhiteh | but Go has fully capable structs =) |
| 23:37.59 | Mikk | that contains data that the Go code would want to look at / manipulate |
| 23:38.21 | Mikk | preferably without having to convert |
| 23:39.05 | jnwhiteh | should be fine |
| 23:39.11 | jnwhiteh | but no reason the struct couldn't be in Go to begin with =) |
| 23:40.02 | Mikk | because it came flying up from a network card |
| 23:40.45 | jnwhiteh | the C/Go interface is pretty nice |
| 23:40.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm pretty sure it can do that, but have only worked at a different level |
| 23:41.32 | Mikk | basically what i'd be looking at would be to implement "high level logic" in Go |
| 23:41.47 | Mikk | but leave the lowlevel stuff to C where it wins |
| 23:41.53 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 23:41.56 | jnwhiteh | certainly possible :P |
| 23:42.04 | jnwhiteh | might even get a nice abstraction using interfaces |
| 23:42.25 | Mikk | yeah i'm really liking how interfaces got implemented in Go |
| 23:42.30 | Mikk | fuck type inheritance & win |
| 23:42.43 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 23:42.51 | Mikk | (and i've written my share of large C++ projects.. and faced down all the horrors that result) |
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| 23:57.44 | Wobin | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZsGLr |
| 23:57.45 | Wobin | what is this |
| 23:57.46 | Wobin | I don't even |
