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| 00:28.31 | Jamash | batbot seems insecure |
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| 01:12.38 | mckenziemc | Jamash |
| 01:12.44 | mckenziemc | why would you update Pidgin? |
| 01:12.49 | mckenziemc | that's blasphemy |
| 01:13.05 | airtonix | to avoid the ledge spikes |
| 01:23.03 | bluspacecow | *yoink* |
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| 01:53.24 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap Cairenn |
| 01:53.24 | purl | ACTION slaps Cairenn around a bit with Fisker. |
| 01:54.17 | Cide | hello |
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| 02:06.09 | mckenziemc | anyone know offhand what to put in Wireshark's capture filter so that it will only record incoming packets? |
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| 02:30.31 | Cairenn | in case you guys aren't aware of this yet: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39229 |
| 02:37.28 | mckenziemc | oh sweet |
| 02:37.41 | mckenziemc | i actually meant to suggest something like that but never got around to it >.> |
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| 02:39.31 | mckenziemc | except it's probably going to break a bunch of legacy addons >.> |
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| 02:40.36 | mckenziemc | oh nvm |
| 02:41.18 | mckenziemc | i take it "Note that this system errs on the side of sending too much; it is possible for addon messages to make it to the CHAT_MSG_ADDON handlers when no addon has registered it." means that the server will send everything just like before if no addons register |
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| 02:41.48 | mckenziemc | err hmm, that would still break things if users mix new and outdated addons... *shrug* |
| 02:42.30 | mckenziemc | but i suppose there'd be no better way to do it |
| 02:45.31 | Cide | so I'm confused by Cairenn's post |
| 02:45.43 | Cide | it's limited to 512 prefixes client side, but 64 server side? |
| 02:46.50 | mckenziemc | perhaps that's so that they can adjust the server side one at any time, and not have to patch the client |
| 02:47.03 | Iriel | Probably |
| 02:47.09 | Cide | still a very large disparity |
| 02:47.19 | Iriel | My bet is they monitor the number of registered (and used) prefixes and plan to adjust IF necessary |
| 02:47.25 | Iriel | They could also be using some kind of lossy hash |
| 02:47.33 | Iriel | Which would explain many of the statements |
| 02:47.44 | Iriel | (or at least, they allow themselves to) |
| 02:48.08 | Iriel | so the client might know you registered for "ABC" even if the server has a hash that would allow "ABC" and "ZWT" through |
| 02:55.38 | Cide | possibly |
| 02:56.19 | Iriel | Addon authors shouldn't really care.. code as if (a) filtering in place (b) you dont know what any other addons might have registered |
| 02:56.34 | Cide | yep |
| 02:56.37 | Cide | same as before, less traffic |
| 02:56.40 | Iriel | and assume that there's an evil pixie that will occasionally register events you didn't expect, then unregister them again. |
| 02:56.48 | Iriel | I believe that's the goal, reduction of server traffic. |
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| 03:24.26 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/03/suns-camera-china-mystery-mirage/ |
| 03:30.00 | Xinhuan | so, the world is now watching very closely to see if the nuclear power plant in japan will meltdown in a few hours |
| 03:30.10 | Cairenn | yeah really |
| 03:30.19 | Xinhuan | there's only enough battery power to operate the cooling system another few hours |
| 03:30.40 | Xinhuan | before the water circulation stops, and the water will boil off |
| 03:30.54 | Xinhuan | once that happens, overheating will cause a meltdown |
| 03:31.27 | Xinhuan | http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-nuclear-plant-2011-3 |
| 03:32.15 | Xinhuan | the solution atm appears to be to purposely let _some_ radiation leak to avoid the overheating |
| 03:32.40 | Dagmar | Fail-hot systems are fail |
| 03:33.04 | Iriel | Doesn't it have any moderation system to drop into the reactor between the fuel rods? |
| 03:33.15 | Iriel | I thought those were largely standard issue? |
| 03:33.31 | Xinhuan | well, the nuclear power plants are programmed to immediately enter shutdown on a earthquake |
| 03:33.36 | Xinhuan | which is exactly what happened |
| 03:33.51 | Xinhuan | the problem is that when you shutdown the plant, it builds up heat over the next 48 hours |
| 03:34.12 | Xinhuan | and the eaerthquake destroyed both the power grid AND the backup power generators |
| 03:34.19 | Xinhuan | leaving only backup batteries |
| 03:34.33 | Xinhuan | which only last 8 hours to drive the cooling water circulation |
| 03:35.42 | Xinhuan | maybe the build up heat part is wrong |
| 03:35.46 | Xinhuan | but whatever it is, its very hot |
| 03:35.54 | Xinhuan | and requires constant cooling |
| 03:35.56 | Xinhuan | which isn't happening |
| 03:38.25 | Dagmar | Iriel: In the US all our plants are fail-cold. |
| 03:39.21 | Dagmar | We sort of learned our lesson from Three Mile Island |
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| 04:24.25 | ccox | Dagmar: this plant is similar to early 1970s US plants |
| 04:24.49 | ccox | and even most US plants fail to a cold state, but need cooling for at least 48 hours after shutdown |
| 04:26.06 | ccox | and the reporting on that web page is horrible, especially the quote from the ANTI-NUCLEAR dimwit |
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| 05:21.08 | airtonix | Fisker: i lol'd |
| 05:21.37 | airtonix | text email from lecturer : Please click the vote button to indicate your desire to attend at this time. |
| 05:21.55 | airtonix | for information technology. |
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| 05:35.48 | kd3 | oh ye gods. the meltdown is starting |
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| 05:48.42 | mckenziemc1 | Iriel: (this is late but) it's the "spent" fuel that requires cooling |
| 05:48.59 | Xinhuan | Update 3/12 12:19 AM: This just came from Reuters on twitter... REUTERS FLASH: #Japan nuclear authorities say high possibility of meltdown at Fukushima Daiichi No. 1 reactor - Jiji |
| 05:49.00 | Xinhuan | Update 3/12/ 12:26: Now a headline from Kyodo Wire: Fukushima nuke plant might be experiencing nuclear meltdown. From AP via Steve Herman: A meltdown would potentially put humans at risk within a 6 KM range. |
| 05:49.02 | mckenziemc1 | as it continues to decay |
| 05:49.28 | Iriel | mckenziemc1: Interesting, I thought they contained that in such a way it couldn't go critical and melt down? |
| 05:49.59 | mckenziemc1 | it's not going critical at all |
| 05:50.26 | Iriel | it's just escaping containment? |
| 05:50.58 | mckenziemc1 | lemme see if i can find the link about one of the similar Russian accidents |
| 05:51.08 | Xinhuan | its unsure if the containment will fail |
| 05:51.14 | mckenziemc1 | (not chernobyl >.>) |
| 05:51.32 | Xinhuan | the nuclear meltdown seems imminent now, its just a matter of whether the containment will work or not |
| 05:52.37 | mckenziemc1 | by "it's not going critical at all" i was referring to the heat being generated from the waste, btw |
| 05:53.23 | Xinhuan | Iriel, the meltdown will occur because of overheating (the heat doesn't die until about 48 hours after shutdown) - they lost power, backup generators are destroyed by quake, and backup batteries are about to run out for the water circulation cooling |
| 05:54.02 | Xinhuan | the water will start to boil, once all the water's gone, meltdown starts |
| 05:54.59 | mckenziemc1 | "When a nuclear reactor has been shut down, and nuclear fission is not occurring at a large scale, the major source of heat production will be due to the beta decay of these fission fragments. For this reason, at the moment of reactor shutdown, decay heat will be about 7% of the previous core power if the reactor has had a long and steady power history." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decay_heat |
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| 05:56.33 | mckenziemc1 | i don't remember what the place was but there was some issue in a russian plant where they put the spent fuel in water-filled concrete containers, and the containers exploded open after a few hours because the decay heat boiled the water |
| 05:58.09 | mckenziemc1 | 'exploded' is kinda an exaggeration though, but iirc it blew the lid off with a large force |
| 05:58.14 | Xinhuan | yep basically once the water boils away, the heat can't escape and will build up and melt the container |
| 05:58.50 | Corrodias | so... they're fucked? |
| 05:59.26 | Iriel | The NYT article talks about a steam driven backup system |
| 05:59.34 | Iriel | is that missing/inoperative? |
| 06:00.39 | mckenziemc1 | no power |
| 06:01.27 | Xinhuan | the backup power generators are dead |
| 06:01.27 | Iriel | The steam comes from the reactor |
| 06:01.34 | Xinhuan | its not that there is a lack of steam |
| 06:01.44 | Xinhuan | its that the backup power generator is killed by the quake |
| 06:02.11 | Iriel | Ah, I see it goes on to say that even that requires some power to operate values |
| 06:02.16 | Iriel | valves |
| 06:02.26 | mckenziemc1 | evidently you can't just collect the 'new' steam to generater more power |
| 06:03.33 | mckenziemc1 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster third and fourth paragraphs are the russian incident |
| 06:03.43 | Corrodias | so then we find out whether the "containment" you mentioned works? |
| 06:04.06 | mikma | http://i.imgur.com/C6nQb.jpg |
| 06:04.34 | mckenziemc1 | mikma: wat |
| 06:05.33 | Dagmar | Freakin' finally |
| 06:05.36 | Dagmar | http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-power3.htm |
| 06:05.42 | Dagmar | That illustration.... That's a fail-cold operation |
| 06:06.03 | Dagmar | When the rods are dropped into the core (gravity is not hard to come by) the reaction is completely dampened |
| 06:07.07 | Iriel | Dagmar: that's what I was trying to get at earlier |
| 06:07.10 | Dagmar | I've been inside the Watts-Barr facility here... It's part of the reason I'm really sure the ones we've got here can be shut completely off in an emergency and won't require much of naything to keep running |
| 06:08.03 | Dagmar | Well... keep *from* running |
| 06:08.16 | Dagmar | TN has a lot of freaking nuclear stuff here. |
| 06:09.52 | Corrodias | we'd better make sure foreigners can't read it |
| 06:09.55 | karl_w_w | <mckenziemc1> lemme see if i can find the link about one of the similar Russian accidents | <mckenziemc1> (not chernobyl >.>) <- a more obvious statement has never been made |
| 06:09.58 | Corrodias | quick, block their IPs! |
| 06:10.11 | karl_w_w | seeing as chernobyl is not in russia |
| 06:10.25 | mckenziemc1 | it was a russian power plant |
| 06:10.39 | Corrodias | it's too bad a nuclear power plant can't generate its own poewr. |
| 06:11.27 | Dagmar | Pfft. If you stop it how do you start it again |
| 06:11.37 | Corrodias | hand crank |
| 06:11.42 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 06:12.19 | karl_w_w | did you just say how do you start a nuclear power plant? |
| 06:12.41 | Dagmar | Maybe they send someone in there to just winch the rods up |
| 06:12.43 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 06:13.26 | mckenziemc1 | also karl_w_w: i was just saying that to make sure anyone wouldn't assume i was talking about that, i didn't actually say it was in russia |
| 06:13.28 | kd3 | starting it (the first time) is just a function of inserting enough uranium to go critical. put in/pull out the control rods to stop/restart after that |
| 06:13.45 | Dagmar | Other way 'round |
| 06:13.48 | Corrodias | oh shit, son, i guess i was right. |
| 06:13.54 | Corrodias | hand crank ftw! |
| 06:14.41 | Dagmar | Neverming that other way 'round thing. My head is killing me from all the damn coughing today |
| 06:14.48 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 06:15.30 | karl_w_w | erm |
| 06:15.39 | karl_w_w | you do put them in to stop it |
| 06:15.41 | Dagmar | College dorm mate grew up in Oak Ridge |
| 06:16.02 | Dagmar | We took several little trips out there on weekends to collect 4-leaf clovers |
| 06:16.17 | Dagmar | They are not rare anywhere near Y-12 |
| 06:16.33 | kd3 | dad grew up a valley away from oak ridge, so I know more than I care to remember |
| 06:17.11 | kd3 | winces again as he tabs back to the nhk feed |
| 06:18.15 | mckenziemc1 | btw |
| 06:18.25 | mckenziemc1 | "A nuclear meltdown is an informal term for a severe nuclear reactor accident that results in core damage from overheating" |
| 06:18.40 | karl_w_w | i would have thought that a nuclear power plant in japan would be required to withstand a ~10 earthquake |
| 06:18.54 | kd3 | the plant in question came online in '71 |
| 06:19.02 | kd3 | I highly doubt they had the tech for that 40 years ago |
| 06:19.16 | mckenziemc1 | whether the overheating is from the reactor reaching critical, or from decay heat |
| 06:20.31 | mckenziemc1 | although idk what would happen to the control rods themselves when they overheat; it could be A Very Bad Thing if they melt away |
| 06:21.12 | Dagmar | I don't think they *can* overheat with the rods in them |
| 06:21.21 | kd3 | latest via kyodo: http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77028.html |
| 06:21.30 | mckenziemc1 | decay heat, dagmar |
| 06:21.55 | mckenziemc1 | it's much less intense than a normal reaction, but when the coolant isn't flowing... |
| 06:22.03 | mckenziemc1 | than normal operation* |
| 06:22.03 | Dagmar | It doesn't need to |
| 06:22.39 | kd3 | latest from kyodo: http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77028.html |
| 06:22.58 | mckenziemc1 | the cold-fail thing you linked refers to preventing criticality (i think, i did'nt actually read it because it didn't load on dialup >.> ) |
| 06:23.02 | kd3 | grr, http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/77025.html |
| 06:23.10 | mckenziemc1 | but you don't need to reach criticality to have a meltdown |
| 06:23.31 | Dagmar | You're right, you don't, but when you drop the control rods in it just stops the reaction |
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| 06:23.46 | mckenziemc1 | but not the decay |
| 06:23.53 | kd3 | indeed, but what's going on now is a result of latent heat of the former nuclear reaction |
| 06:24.02 | Dagmar | We dont' deal in material so "hot" it requires perpetual cooling |
| 06:24.20 | Dagmar | TVA doesn't fuck arouond like that |
| 06:24.34 | mckenziemc1 | dagmar: the rods don't completely block radioactivity |
| 06:24.40 | Dagmar | They occasionally lose 8-9 pounds of uranium into the ground water, but hey... who's counting rads |
| 06:24.43 | kd3 | the control rods don't magically cool the uranium down from 3000F to the point where they don't need external cooling |
| 06:25.05 | Dagmar | They do stop producing heat tho |
| 06:25.14 | mckenziemc1 | no |
| 06:25.19 | mckenziemc1 | most but not all of it |
| 06:25.36 | kd3 | mostly. just the latent heat is causing all of this |
| 06:25.39 | mckenziemc1 | (9:54:50 PM) mckenziemc1: "When a nuclear reactor has been shut down, and nuclear fission is not occurring at a large scale, the major source of heat production will be due to the beta decay of these fission fragments. For this reason, at the moment of reactor shutdown, decay heat will be about 7% of the previous core power if the reactor has had a long and steady power history." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decay_h |
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| 06:26.55 | Dagmar | Well, either way at Watts-Barr they seem pretty sure that their plant can be shut down completely no matter what, and I'm going to go with what they tell me |
| 06:30.04 | mckenziemc1 | well, i don't think you have much of a chance of earthquakes both knocking out power and damaging backup generators in Tennessee :) |
| 06:30.39 | Dagmar | Too much limestone, really |
| 06:31.44 | Dagmar | There's been two quakes here the entire time I've lived here. One was a 2.2 (IIRC) when I was a little kid, and the other was more recent, and it was a wimpy little 4.2 |
| 06:32.44 | Xinhuan | no one really expected a 8.9 quake after a 7.2(?) one anyway >.> |
| 06:32.56 | Dagmar | 8.9 is *crazy* strong |
| 06:33.04 | Dagmar | I'm just glad it was out to sea |
| 06:33.15 | Xinhuan | Strongest recorded quake in japan (since they started recording) |
| 06:33.18 | Xinhuan | according to news |
| 06:33.19 | Dagmar | The one that just f**ked San Francisco up in the 80' |
| 06:33.23 | Dagmar | s was like a 7 |
| 06:33.42 | Xinhuan | and epicenter so close to surface makes it worse |
| 06:33.44 | Dagmar | An 8.9 close to Tokyo on land would have leveled a shitload of it |
| 06:36.30 | mckenziemc1 | how much energy is released in an 8.9? |
| 06:36.50 | Xinhuan | about 400x more energy than the one that hit Haiti |
| 06:37.16 | Dagmar | Almost 100x more powerful than the one that fucked up San Fran |
| 06:37.19 | mckenziemc1 | absolute not relative please :p |
| 06:37.25 | Xinhuan | that's absolute |
| 06:37.28 | Corrodias | it releases a million. |
| 06:37.36 | Corrodias | of a unit |
| 06:37.42 | Xinhuan | ritcher scale is logarithmic |
| 06:37.51 | mckenziemc1 | i know |
| 06:37.51 | Xinhuan | so 8.0 is 10x stronger than 7.0 |
| 06:37.56 | Xinhuan | or is it 100x |
| 06:37.58 | mckenziemc1 | but how much energy is it |
| 06:37.59 | Corrodias | how would you measure the energy of an earthquake? |
| 06:38.15 | mckenziemc1 | tons of TNT |
| 06:38.15 | Dagmar | My guess is the mass of rock displaced |
| 06:38.17 | kd3 | by using the moment magnitude scale? |
| 06:38.20 | Xinhuan | will have to read wikipedia on that one heh |
| 06:38.22 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_magnitude_scale |
| 06:38.24 | Corrodias | cool |
| 06:38.26 | Iriel | Xinhuan: 10 x |
| 06:38.40 | Shirik|Gh | I just realized |
| 06:38.43 | Shirik|Gh | pi is not an irrational number |
| 06:38.49 | Dagmar | 7.1 to 8.9 tho's closer to 10x * 10x |
| 06:38.50 | Shirik|Gh | It is just a misunderstood number |
| 06:38.55 | Dagmar | It's pretty reasonable |
| 06:39.18 | Dagmar | Oh crap so that's 1000x |
| 06:39.21 | Dagmar | Sheeeeet |
| 06:39.41 | mckenziemc1 | 10 x 10 is 100... |
| 06:39.42 | kd3 | logarithmic scales tend to do that |
| 06:40.18 | Dagmar | I do have to say the footage CNN has from the English teacher is pretty funny |
| 06:40.46 | Dagmar | He goes outside, hears the bonging of the -natural gas canisters whacking against each other- and just about loses it |
| 06:41.03 | Dagmar | It's funny because they didn't go blooey |
| 06:41.06 | kd3 | an entirely natural reaction to natural gas canisters getting knocked about |
| 06:41.12 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 06:41.41 | Dagmar | With as many rednecks as make a habit of parking their SUVs *in* the mini-market I figure it's just a matter of time before someone takes out a rack of them |
| 06:42.27 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 06:42.33 | kd3 | thinks of that notalwaysright story of someone bringing in a ''leaking'' LP container... |
| 06:42.45 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 06:42.54 | mckenziemc1 | ?? |
| 06:43.11 | kd3 | sec, dns is being screwy, having issues getting sites to load |
| 06:43.16 | kd3 | grrs at his uplink |
| 06:44.10 | Dagmar | Because of Comcast i just run my own caching named |
| 06:45.03 | Xinhuan | http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/76992.html |
| 06:45.17 | Xinhuan | looks like Plant 2 is now under emergency as well |
| 06:46.05 | Dagmar | Yowza |
| 06:46.40 | Xinhuan | and evacution expanded |
| 06:47.15 | Dagmar | I guess it's a bit too late to have people run in there and blow on it |
| 06:47.26 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 06:47.34 | Dagmar | ...probably more of a North Korean solution, anyway |
| 06:47.43 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 06:47.44 | Xinhuan | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/163374/patch-41-addon-messages-will-be-filtered |
| 06:47.47 | Xinhuan | major change there |
| 06:48.07 | Bibi | i included it in today's news! |
| 06:48.18 | Bibi | with a complete analysis |
| 06:48.24 | Bibi | "I don't understand that stuff, but it seems important" |
| 06:48.26 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: you slow! http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39229 |
| 06:48.53 | Xinhuan | well Cairenn, i'm trying to watch GSL on live stream, japan quake news on TV, read irc and blue posts at the same time |
| 06:48.55 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 06:49.06 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:49.57 | Xinhuan | well that's going to cause some AceComm-3.0 changes |
| 06:49.58 | Dagmar | Whoa. HAPPINESS is going away |
| 06:50.13 | Dagmar | Holy crap when do I get my Pokedex |
| 06:50.15 | mckenziemc1 | Sadness will prevail!! |
| 06:51.00 | Dagmar | Soon when a hunter visits a pet trainer, the pet trainer will tell the hunter how much the pet trusts him or her |
| 06:51.14 | Dagmar | ...and hten we can collect shiny pets |
| 06:51.53 | Dagmar | If they put in a beauty pageant or singing contest for hunter pets I'm renaming all of mine |
| 06:53.18 | mckenziemc1 | Dagmar: your tears fuel me |
| 06:53.19 | mckenziemc1 | ;) |
| 06:53.25 | Dagmar | It's not tears |
| 06:53.47 | Dagmar | I don't really have a problem with Pokemon, but there's a degree to which the hunter stuff is getting more and more like being a pokemon trainer |
| 06:54.11 | mckenziemc1 | meh, it's stuff that was more annoying than interesting |
| 06:54.34 | Dagmar | Believe me I'll have no problems watching my squishy-brained bug pet jump straight to level 85 in a few more weeks |
| 06:55.43 | mckenziemc1 | don't you still have to level your pokemon? or did they take that out >.> |
| 06:56.08 | Dagmar | Next patch that goes away |
| 06:56.24 | mckenziemc1 | i know |
| 06:56.30 | mckenziemc1 | but you compared it to pokemon |
| 06:56.33 | Dagmar | They're just going to *sponggg!* straight to your level |
| 06:57.13 | Dagmar | Yeah and for the most part when you first see most pokemon they're about the average level of the guys you have with you |
| 06:57.22 | Dagmar | ...so what level they are when you get them is sort of a moot point |
| 06:58.00 | mckenziemc1 | *shrug* |
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| 06:59.11 | mckenziemc1 | "Holding down buttons while moving the mouse can be awkward and requires some practice, since the downwards action increases friction for the horizontal motion." trackball ftw? |
| 06:59.36 | mckenziemc1 | (mouse gestures ) |
| 07:00.29 | Dagmar | People should try *cleaning their desk* if they're having problems with the mouse sticking to it |
| 07:00.54 | Dagmar | I think pretty much everything that cost more than a buck has teflon feet on it now |
| 07:02.00 | mckenziemc1 | stinky ants ftl |
| 07:02.57 | mckenziemc1 | they were trying to steal food from a can in my sink, so i flipped it over, and must've crushed some : / |
| 07:03.09 | Xinhuan | http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JF423.htm |
| 07:03.17 | Xinhuan | "Fuel rods were exposed to the air as the water level in the reactor fell, said one observer." |
| 07:03.19 | Xinhuan | WHAT |
| 07:03.20 | Dagmar | Heh. I use poison *liberally* here |
| 07:03.46 | Wobin | should I buy DA2? |
| 07:03.57 | Dagmar | Wobin: Do you like elves and snark? |
| 07:04.15 | Wobin | I admit there's a certain attraction to elves and snark |
| 07:04.23 | Xinhuan | unsure Wobin, the general opinion is that it doesn't live up to the hype |
| 07:04.26 | Dagmar | I mean, I've been enjoying it pretty well thus far |
| 07:04.33 | kd3 | ah, found it |
| 07:04.37 | kd3 | stupid site search |
| 07:04.39 | kd3 | http://notalwaysright.com/a-good-time-to-excuse-yourself/181 |
| 07:04.40 | Xinhuan | and has been "dumbed down" for console players |
| 07:04.51 | Wobin | how much did you pay for it? |
| 07:04.56 | Xinhuan | you won't get a challenge unless you play on nightmare difficulty |
| 07:04.57 | Dagmar | The console version of DA:O was "dumbed down" for console players |
| 07:05.00 | Dagmar | They were just too dim to notice |
| 07:05.02 | Xinhuan | 59.99 on steam >.> |
| 07:05.03 | Wobin | (just to check how steam adjusts prices geographically) |
| 07:05.12 | Wobin | aha |
| 07:05.19 | Wobin | I get charged $69 =P |
| 07:05.19 | Xinhuan | or is it 49.99 |
| 07:05.20 | Xinhuan | can't remember |
| 07:05.44 | Wobin | can I get one of you to gift it to me, and I'll reimburse you to your bank account? |
| 07:05.47 | mckenziemc1 | i got charged $0 |
| 07:05.47 | Dagmar | Meh. If you play on Nightmare you pretty much *have* to micro-manage or you just get your shit handed to you over and over |
| 07:05.50 | mckenziemc1 | because i didn't buy it |
| 07:06.21 | Dagmar | The dragons are tedious enough without that |
| 07:06.26 | Wobin | the price differences are laughable |
| 07:06.31 | Wobin | since the AUD is stronger than the USD |
| 07:06.39 | Wobin | or was last I checked |
| 07:06.41 | Xinhuan | well on "normal" diff, its a steamroll |
| 07:06.45 | Xinhuan | you don't have to manage anything |
| 07:06.53 | Xinhuan | there isn't even friendly fire |
| 07:07.06 | Dagmar | It's a steamroll if you hvae a bunch of plate wearers |
| 07:07.13 | Xinhuan | quite a lot of bad review/feedback is due to this |
| 07:07.33 | Dagmar | By the time you've gotten out of Lowtown there's more than a few guys who'll just up and one-shot your mages |
| 07:07.58 | Dagmar | Being that I prefer a mage, I'm not a big fan of watching "my" toon get one-shot |
| 07:08.33 | Dagmar | Anyway, if I want arduously hard combat, there's other games for that |
| 07:08.44 | Dagmar | I like the high drama in DA |
| 07:08.57 | Dagmar | ...and hearing Merril say completely daft things |
| 07:10.00 | Dagmar | I will also freely admit to making my choices of who to work for in these games in order of relative cuteness |
| 07:10.54 | Dagmar | Early on they showed me a balding, slightl obnoxious mercenary and a pretty cute (new and improved dalish flavor!) redheaded elf with a sexy voice, and I rather quickly decided I'd like to smuggle things |
| 07:11.20 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 07:11.32 | Dagmar | Generally I'm all goody-two-shoes in these things |
| 07:11.46 | Wobin | Xinhuan: so is it 59 or 49? |
| 07:12.02 | Dagmar | Seriously tho, the Dalish changed a bit for this one, and it's a much more visually appealing elfyness now |
| 07:12.11 | Xinhuan | let me check |
| 07:12.15 | Wobin | ta =) |
| 07:12.36 | Dagmar | The changes to the Qunari... meh. The horns seem a bit much after seeing them without horns before |
| 07:13.04 | Xinhuan | You sent a payment of $59.99 USD to Valve Corp. (paypalsupport@valvesoftware.com) |
| 07:13.06 | Xinhuan | there |
| 07:13.11 | Wobin | ta =) |
| 07:13.15 | Wobin | hm |
| 07:13.34 | Wobin | is the $10 difference worth the effort of getting someone else to buy it and refunding them the value? |
| 07:13.45 | Xinhuan | why are u charged 69? |
| 07:13.51 | Wobin | cause we're australian |
| 07:13.53 | Dagmar | I'm also going to go on record as saying I am somewhat relieved to **NOT** have to play "dress-up" every time I pull a toon out |
| 07:14.01 | Wobin | and they hate us |
| 07:14.15 | Xinhuan | do you have some additional service of some sort so that downloads from steam doesn't count against your monthly cap? |
| 07:14.36 | Wobin | perhaps. But not $10 worth |
| 07:14.59 | Xinhuan | it might be, bandwidth isn't cheap |
| 07:14.59 | Wobin | and that would be per ISP |
| 07:15.09 | Wobin | not "Haha, Australia in General" |
| 07:15.20 | Xinhuan | no idea, just a "suggestion" why it might be more expensive |
| 07:15.23 | Wobin | no |
| 07:15.27 | Wobin | they just like shafting us |
| 07:15.33 | Wobin | because we're antipodean |
| 07:15.34 | Xinhuan | wouldn't it be easier to just get it gifted |
| 07:15.38 | Wobin | and are too far away =P |
| 07:15.39 | Xinhuan | and you pay someone for it |
| 07:15.42 | Wobin | yeah |
| 07:15.53 | Wobin | Anyone up for that? =) |
| 07:16.31 | Xinhuan | http://www.steamprices.com/us |
| 07:17.19 | Xinhuan | hmm it doesn't list aussie prices |
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| 07:17.31 | Wobin | you can change the comparison |
| 07:17.43 | Xinhuan | but it appears its teh cheapest if you can get a UK guy to buy it |
| 07:17.46 | Xinhuan | for you |
| 07:17.57 | Xinhuan | $20 cheaper |
| 07:18.06 | Wobin | holy shit |
| 07:18.07 | mckenziemc1 | hey Bibi, are there any clues as to whether heirlooms will be changed to Bind to B.net, or if that's intended to be used for something else? i haven't been following mmo-c threads lately |
| 07:18.13 | Wobin | they're still charging full price for DAO |
| 07:18.15 | Xinhuan | ask iriel perhaps |
| 07:18.24 | Xinhuan | err not iriel |
| 07:18.28 | Xinhuan | i meant clad |
| 07:18.33 | Wobin | jnwhiteh! you there? =) |
| 07:20.46 | Bibi | if you don't read MMO-Champion daily you do not deserve to know mckenziemc1 |
| 07:20.47 | Bibi | sucks to be you. |
| 07:21.05 | kd3 | read mmo-c? |
| 07:21.05 | Xinhuan | i got clad to buy for me something on steam before |
| 07:21.07 | kd3 | laughs |
| 07:21.14 | mckenziemc1 | :( |
| 07:21.18 | Bibi | WOW |
| 07:21.20 | Bibi | RUDE KD3. |
| 07:21.32 | kd3 | yup |
| 07:21.43 | Ackis | what's mmo-c? |
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| 07:21.47 | Xinhuan | HAHA Wobin |
| 07:21.48 | Ackis | gold selling site? |
| 07:21.48 | Xinhuan | guess what |
| 07:21.57 | mckenziemc1 | naw Ackis, it's a keylogger |
| 07:21.59 | Wobin | Xinhuan: What? =) |
| 07:22.05 | Xinhuan | "You've received a gift copy of the game Dragon Age: Origins - Deluxe + Awakening on Steam" |
| 07:22.10 | Bibi | Ackis: that site where you're NOT a moderator. |
| 07:22.12 | Xinhuan | that was the game i got clad to buy for me |
| 07:22.16 | Wobin | hahaha |
| 07:22.21 | Ackis | Bibi: I don't mind :P |
| 07:22.27 | Bibi | oh sure, taht's what you say now |
| 07:22.27 | Bibi | :( |
| 07:22.32 | Bibi | fuck you, you're all mean |
| 07:22.45 | Ackis | we love you! |
| 07:23.35 | Thunder_Child | we do? |
| 07:23.42 | kd3 | news to me |
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| 07:27.19 | Bibi | prove it Ackis |
| 07:27.23 | Bibi | find me a good rogue leveling build. |
| 07:27.31 | mckenziemc1 | sub |
| 07:27.48 | avlox | combat |
| 07:27.48 | Bibi | you mean sab? I tried, it sucks :( |
| 07:28.05 | mckenziemc1 | take all the dps stuff and choose recoup over that one talent below hemorrhage |
| 07:28.25 | Ackis | Bibi: 0/0/0 |
| 07:28.34 | mckenziemc1 | ^ |
| 07:28.54 | Wobin | I'm rediscovering my dps warrior |
| 07:29.03 | Wobin | and putting him as fury for the 80-85 run |
| 07:29.12 | Wobin | the self healing is nice |
| 07:29.17 | Wobin | as long as you don't stop moving |
| 07:29.21 | Bibi | who plays WoW, I'm talking about Rift! |
| 07:29.27 | mckenziemc1 | oh lol |
| 07:29.38 | Wobin | oh. in that case 928301239/2349838/2333 |
| 07:30.01 | Wobin | cause jesus, those trees are big |
| 07:30.14 | Ackis | lol Bibi |
| 07:30.16 | Wobin | unless they streamlined them since the beta |
| 07:30.34 | Xinhuan | nope still the same |
| 07:30.55 | Bibi | I'll stick to Ranger I guess |
| 07:31.03 | Bibi | this Rift class is so much more awesome than the WoW classes |
| 07:31.24 | Bibi | see, it's a ranged class, you have animal pets, and you have different aspects of animal to boost your attack power, your running speed, etc |
| 07:31.25 | mckenziemc1 | www.wowhead.com/?user=mckenziemc <- i've wasted too much time on WoW to switch to anything else :( |
| 07:31.28 | Bibi | I'm glad they came up with something new |
| 07:32.08 | Thunder_Child | i detect sarcasm |
| 07:32.42 | mckenziemc1 | i detect Thunder_Child |
| 07:33.00 | Wobin | Bibi: I found them to be extremely overcomplicated |
| 07:33.11 | Wobin | especially if you're a starting MMO player |
| 07:33.48 | Bibi | well, it's a WoW copy paste with overcomplicated stuff to make it look like they're better |
| 07:33.52 | Wobin | I suspect it may boil down to cookiecutter |
| 07:33.57 | Bibi | turns out, these things suck |
| 07:34.13 | Bibi | the only reason why I play Rift is because it's WoW, but not WoW |
| 07:34.20 | Bibi | this way I actually can play a MMORPG without feeling like it's work |
| 07:34.25 | Wobin | haha |
| 07:34.33 | Thunder_Child | sucks to be you |
| 07:34.35 | Wobin | well you have noone to blame but yourself for that situation =) |
| 07:34.51 | Bibi | I mean, at some point today I literally thought "hey, what am I doing on WoW? oh wait that's Rift" |
| 07:35.33 | mckenziemc1 | Bibi: shouldn't you be datamining? |
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| 07:36.21 | Torhal | stuffs mckenziemc1 into a trunk full of dead narwhals. |
| 07:36.57 | mckenziemc1 | where's my sandwich Torhal |
| 07:37.05 | mckenziemc1 | and not the one for the ants |
| 07:41.46 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:41.58 | Cairenn | ! |
| 07:42.04 | Sargeras | ^^ |
| 07:42.08 | Cairenn | pounces Sargeras and smoogles the stuffings out of him |
| 07:42.19 | Sargeras | oh my |
| 07:42.46 | Sargeras | How are you my beautiful Canadian lady? |
| 07:43.04 | Cairenn | Doing okay. How are you guys doing? How's your lovely lady? |
| 07:43.16 | Sargeras | we are well |
| 07:43.21 | Sargeras | closer and closer to the wedding |
| 07:43.29 | Sargeras | soo much crap to do lol >< |
| 07:43.36 | Cairenn | heh, yup |
| 07:43.58 | Sargeras | pokes Dolby |
| 07:44.09 | dolby | oww |
| 07:44.25 | Sargeras | Dolby arigato, pally-D |
| 07:44.31 | dolby | pokes Sargeras |
| 07:44.34 | dolby | hey Sargeras |
| 07:55.54 | Xinhuan | "(Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power (9501.T) said it had lost its ability to control pressure in some of the reactors of a second nuclear power plant at its quake-hit Fukushima facility in northeastern Japan." |
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| 08:13.08 | Wobin | Xinhuan: argh =O |
| 08:13.28 | Xinhuan | its not an immediate disaster yet |
| 08:13.48 | kd3 | and yet they've been saying that for how many hours now? |
| 08:13.52 | Xinhuan | since i think they intend to release some pressure by releasing some radiation into the containment dome |
| 08:13.53 | kd3 | winces again |
| 08:14.05 | Xinhuan | to prevent meltdowns |
| 08:14.15 | Cairenn | hey kd3, did you hear from the last couple people you were waiting to hear from? |
| 08:14.18 | Xinhuan | the problem is, we don't know how secure these containment domes are after the quake |
| 08:14.19 | Thunder_Child | this is why everyone should have pebble reactors |
| 08:14.42 | kd3 | yup, finally got a hold of the last one an hour ago. thank FSM |
| 08:14.57 | kd3 | now maybe I can get some sleep |
| 08:14.59 | Cairenn | glad to hear they are all okay |
| 08:15.00 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 08:15.04 | Cairenn | hugs kd3 |
| 08:15.09 | kd3 | hugs cairenn |
| 08:16.15 | mckenziemc1 | rugs Cairenn |
| 08:20.14 | mckenziemc1 | @project homing digeon |
| 08:20.16 | Repo | mckenziemc1: No project found that matches 'homing' |
| 08:20.34 | mckenziemc1 | @project homing-digeon |
| 08:20.36 | Repo | mckenziemc1: http://www.wowace.com/addons/homing-digeon/. Homing Digeon. Game: WoW. wobin (Manager/Author). Updated: 18 days ago |
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| 08:42.11 | Jamash | I hear some of the japanese reactors are 40 years old |
| 08:42.34 | kd3 | the one that's threatening to melt came online in '71 |
| 08:42.47 | Jamash | so, yeah |
| 08:42.57 | karl_w_w | !api GetWorldPVPAreaInfo |
| 08:42.57 | lua_bot | GetWorldPVPAreaInfo: Returns information about a given world PvP zone (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetWorldPVPAreaInfo) |
| 08:42.57 | Jamash | probably shouldn't keep them around that long |
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| 08:48.55 | karl_w_w | WORLD_PVP_TIME_UPDATE_IINTERVAL <- good ol' blizzard |
| 08:50.51 | Xinhuan | "URGENT: Explosion heard at Fukushima nuclear plant, 4 injured: TEPCO" |
| 08:50.56 | Xinhuan | >.> |
| 08:51.16 | kd3 | <insert kd3 cursing in a few languages here> |
| 08:52.11 | Cairenn | not good |
| 09:02.19 | karl_w_w | where is GRAY_FONT_COLOR_CODE defined? |
| 09:02.33 | karl_w_w | nvm |
| 09:03.51 | Xinhuan | http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/japan-quake-idUSL3E7EC07M20110312 |
| 09:04.06 | Xinhuan | the report says the building's outer structure blown off |
| 09:04.26 | Xinhuan | "which could suggest the containment building had already been breached." |
| 09:08.13 | Dagmar | Not good |
| 09:08.32 | Dagmar | USAF was taking coolant to them earlier, so they may confirm/deny something soon |
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| 09:13.02 | Ackis | ~wowprogramming |
| 09:13.02 | purl | from memory, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
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| 09:28.22 | harl | wuff |
| 09:29.36 | Fisker | lol Ackis |
| 09:29.38 | Fisker | ea are retarted |
| 09:29.42 | Fisker | retarded |
| 09:30.19 | Fisker | they lifted that guys ban again |
| 09:30.22 | Fisker | "immediately after they discovered the glitch" |
| 09:30.40 | Fisker | which is funny since EA said it was intentional to begin with |
| 09:30.43 | Fisker | Bioware said so as well |
| 09:31.13 | Fisker | Bioware closed down anyone discussing it, as well as banned people if they even just a little mentioned piracy |
| 09:31.19 | Fisker | but apparently it was just a glitch! |
| 09:31.31 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 09:33.01 | airtonix | Fisker: if you're having problems with a game, you are obviously using an illegal copy. since legal copies are magically perfect. |
| 09:33.37 | Fisker | yes airtonix |
| 09:34.31 | airtonix | i know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy that uses pirated games |
| 09:35.07 | airtonix | he's complete jserk |
| 09:35.41 | Fisker | i complete jerk u |
| 09:35.49 | airtonix | i came |
| 09:36.28 | airtonix | to that event yesterday |
| 09:38.47 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4uogOEUrU&hd=1 |
| 09:39.18 | airtonix | what is better than dd-wrt? |
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| 09:50.59 | Corrodias | maybe sex, but that is debatable |
| 09:58.44 | karl_w_w | does the Fisker |
| 10:04.01 | Jamash | Fisker, stop fishslapping nuclear plants in japan |
| 10:06.23 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:06.29 | Fisker | give those os a go Alram |
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| 10:16.42 | Xinhuan | lol evacuation area around the plants expanded to 20 km |
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| 10:17.51 | Trela | Xinhuan: ...How is that funny? |
| 10:18.29 | Xinhuan | cynical laugh |
| 10:18.36 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: I need a map gen =) |
| 10:19.17 | Xinhuan | it should have been 20km yesterday |
| 10:22.26 | Xinhuan | whats up with that 25 page thread on HHTD addon |
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| 10:28.12 | Fisker | so shit hit the fan anyway Xinhuan ? |
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| 10:30.54 | Computerpunk | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/163374/patch-41-addon-messages-will-be-filtered |
| 10:30.58 | Computerpunk | In case I'm late, hit me. |
| 10:32.25 | Wobin | hits Computerpunk |
| 10:33.01 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U |
| 10:33.04 | Wobin | Ponycraft 2 |
| 10:37.12 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:38.49 | Fisker | ooooooooooooooooh |
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| 10:43.42 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 10:50.17 | Corrodias | Wobin: thank you for that link. wow. |
| 10:50.35 | Wobin | Corrodias: epic, was it not? =) |
| 10:51.46 | Corrodias | dailymotion is such an annoying video host. not like youtube. |
| 10:52.00 | Corrodias | yes, let's pause for a few seconds every 15 seconds! |
| 10:52.22 | Corrodias | loading my ass! you've got the whole thing buffered! |
| 10:52.44 | zenzelezz | always be wary of sites that try to load your ass |
| 10:54.43 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 10:55.03 | airtonix | i buttered your ass |
| 10:55.32 | Corrodias | dailymotion: 40 kilobytes per second ought to be enough for anyone! |
| 10:55.57 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 10:56.00 | Fisker | lets kill a guy |
| 10:56.10 | airtonix | ok |
| 10:56.12 | bleeter | kills Fisker |
| 10:56.16 | Fisker | ok i choose you airtonix |
| 10:56.20 | airtonix | ok |
| 10:56.46 | airtonix_v2 | hi Fisker |
| 10:57.18 | Fisker | hey airtonix_v2 |
| 10:57.33 | airtonix_v2 | hi Fisker |
| 10:57.48 | Torhal | kicks Ackis in the shins. |
| 10:59.12 | Fisker | i can give you a miracle Torhal |
| 11:06.07 | Fisker | http://viljami.ylilauta.fi/b/src/129991845633.jpg <-that's lol'd / horrible |
| 11:06.56 | Corrodias | whoops, it's viddler that was pissing me off |
| 11:07.05 | Corrodias | hard to tell the difference between them and dailymotion |
| 11:08.35 | Corrodias | clearly, though, i'm a moron. |
| 11:11.26 | mikma | fisker: damnit what the hell is wrong with those retards |
| 11:11.44 | mikma | i truly hope they won't get third limbs when the wind reaches us |
| 11:11.50 | mikma | us as united stupid |
| 11:14.02 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 11:16.42 | mikma | http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/438/fallout.jpg dear USA, enjoy your fallout. |
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| 11:19.17 | airtonix | so there's quite alot of video in starcraft2? |
| 11:19.18 | Xyphoid | you do know that's about as accurate a pic as the godzilla shops |
| 11:19.22 | Xyphoid | just checking |
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| 11:39.45 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 11:39.48 | Fisker | http://www.amazon.de/KOMPUTERBAY-Klasse-MicroSDHC-High-Speed-adapter/dp/B004OYLN9U/ <-lies? |
| 11:41.34 | airtonix | i'll kill you anyway Fisker |
| 11:43.15 | olafski | so addon messages filtered.. I hope all the carbonite whiners are happy now =) |
| 11:45.36 | Torhal | Whiners? That shit was fucking annoying. |
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| 11:47.34 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 11:47.44 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B16eAS1dwA |
| 11:48.50 | Fisker | imadbro |
| 11:49.00 | Fisker | old btw airtonix |
| 11:49.22 | bluspacecow | fiskery fiskers fisker |
| 11:50.26 | olafski | never bothered me torhal :( |
| 11:50.30 | olafski | nor did I notice it :) |
| 11:50.45 | airtonix | Fisker: where is the starcraft movie |
| 11:51.15 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 11:51.34 | bluspacecow | herro |
| 11:51.51 | airtonix | answer me |
| 11:52.10 | airtonix | Fisker: send it to russian_microsoft_new@hotmail.ru |
| 11:52.34 | airtonix | Fisker: plz |
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| 12:29.31 | Fisker | why do i say you are a jerk airtonix ? |
| 12:29.55 | airtonix | plz |
| 12:30.56 | Fisker | [7580] Darkspore |
| 12:30.58 | Fisker | yusssssss |
| 12:31.07 | airtonix | ysoyus |
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| 12:54.30 | airtonix | what is this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4lIFEDFYIw&feature=player_detailpage#t=218s |
| 12:55.12 | airtonix | is not a whirlpool ? |
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| 13:28.32 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 13:28.35 | Fisker | i hate people |
| 13:28.46 | Fisker | http://www.amazon.co.uk/DURAGADGET-Microphone-Including-Messenger-Suitable/dp/B004L4D49A/ |
| 13:28.50 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 13:29.04 | Fisker | yes, i'm going to buy a microphone stand for a tablet, instead of a headset? |
| 13:29.10 | Fisker | just gtfo my search results pl0x |
| 13:29.28 | airtonix | that's awesome |
| 13:29.40 | Fisker | LOL |
| 13:29.40 | airtonix | i'm going to buy a tablet and a microphone stand |
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| 13:30.02 | Fisker | http://www.amazon.co.uk/DURAGADGET-Compact-USB-2-0-HUB/dp/B004L4GBMW/ <-that shit won't even work, come on |
| 13:30.33 | airtonix | dp is a code for durp |
| 13:35.02 | sylvanaar | hp dp |
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| 13:56.25 | foxlit | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2228413591 heh, that's nice |
| 13:56.53 | bluspacecow | not sure if want |
| 13:56.56 | bluspacecow | foxlit do we want ? |
| 13:57.21 | Gnarfoz | how could you not want. |
| 13:57.34 | foxlit | It's a forced addon update for anything with communications |
| 13:57.44 | Gnarfoz | it's not |
| 13:57.46 | foxlit | But on the other hand, you're no worse off than you are now after you do that. |
| 13:57.48 | bluspacecow | pretend im no addon author (not such a huge jump) ... whats the advantage ? |
| 13:58.05 | bluspacecow | does this mean there be less spammy spammy addons on the addon channel ? |
| 13:58.07 | Gnarfoz | less traffic to your client from addons that you don't even use |
| 13:58.14 | bluspacecow | ah ! |
| 13:58.16 | bluspacecow | yes ! |
| 13:58.18 | bluspacecow | WANT ! |
| 13:58.26 | Gnarfoz | i.e. no Carbonite, GearScore, WhatHaveYou spam |
| 13:59.20 | Gnarfoz | however, for that situation to come true, it seems (hence Xinhuan's request for clarifications) that this only comes true as long as you stay below 64 registered addon prefixes |
| 13:59.22 | foxlit | "Gnarfoz: it's not" << meh? |
| 13:59.43 | bluspacecow | what will happen if an addon author doesn't update with these changes in mind = more spam or just plain no worky addon ? |
| 13:59.58 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: that's not entirely clear right now |
| 14:00.09 | bluspacecow | "Note that this system errs on the side of sending too much; it is possible for addon messages to make it to the CHAT_MSG_ADDON handlers when no addon has registered it." <---- is a little unclear |
| 14:00.12 | Xinhuan | well what will happen presumably |
| 14:00.13 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 14:00.14 | Xinhuan | is that |
| 14:00.18 | bluspacecow | so err on the side of sending lots of spam ? |
| 14:00.29 | Xinhuan | no addon with comms will work |
| 14:00.36 | Xinhuan | because no addon will be registering for prefixes |
| 14:00.46 | Xinhuan | unlesss the user has addons that totals more than 64 prefixes |
| 14:01.19 | Xinhuan | so any current addon sending messages would not be received by anyone |
| 14:01.47 | foxlit | Also, calling them prefixes is weird |
| 14:01.57 | foxlit | If I register for "Foo", will I also get "FooBar"? |
| 14:02.02 | Xinhuan | currently, Acecomm-3.0 also uses 4 prefixes per addon, which means it has to be updated for patch 4.1, which will break backwards compat |
| 14:03.02 | nevcairiel | foxlit: they prefix the message with a unique identifier, makes sense to me |
| 14:03.11 | Gnarfoz | poor cwow etc players will get the short end of the stick again :P |
| 14:03.18 | nevcairiel | screw china |
| 14:03.29 | nevcairiel | they are years behind or something |
| 14:03.42 | nevcairiel | besides, the new way would work for them too :) |
| 14:04.07 | Xinhuan | that's correct, the new way will still work on pre-4.1 servers |
| 14:04.08 | foxlit | nevcairiel: Dunno, considering how it's no longer prefixed, I'd prefer a different name |
| 14:04.11 | nevcairiel | But yes, if an addon is not updated, it will stop working |
| 14:04.23 | nevcairiel | as it wont be receiving its messages anymore |
| 14:04.23 | Xinhuan | but the new way will not work with the old way together |
| 14:07.18 | foxlit | In unrelated news |
| 14:07.18 | foxlit | http://static.wowace.com/content/images/26/790/WoWScrnShot_102610_043338.jpg |
| 14:07.21 | foxlit | I'm amused. |
| 14:07.41 | Xinhuan | i'm more amused it spawned a 25 page thread |
| 14:08.19 | nevcairiel | I don't get it |
| 14:08.37 | Xinhuan | its an addon called "healers have to die" (HHTD) |
| 14:08.51 | Xinhuan | in which when a healer casts a spell above a certain healing threshold |
| 14:08.58 | nevcairiel | oh that |
| 14:08.59 | Xinhuan | it marks nameplates with the huge "+" above their heads |
| 14:09.00 | foxlit | Brief recap: "Waah waaah! Addons put icons on my head because I heal people in PvP, and people kill me! Waaah! Break it!" |
| 14:09.02 | nevcairiel | the addon has been around for ages |
| 14:09.23 | Xinhuan | well someone is requesting for it to be broken |
| 14:09.33 | Xinhuan | and it spawned 25 pages of responses in like 2 days? |
| 14:09.49 | nevcairiel | in unrelated news, i've just been contacted by a recruiter .. again. there seems to be a developer shortage in town |
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| 14:12.54 | bluspacecow | yay |
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| 14:18.17 | stew-a | so whats with this addon message change, are they just doing it so they don't have to deliver any addon messages that the client doesn't specifically ask for? |
| 14:19.14 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 14:20.48 | Gnarfoz | stew-a: more or less, yes. |
| 14:20.51 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:20.55 | bluspacecow | oh hai there fiskery fisker |
| 14:20.56 | Fisker | HELLO THERE |
| 14:20.57 | Gnarfoz | stfu Fisker |
| 14:21.00 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:21.08 | Fisker | why don't you try and stop me Gnarfoz ? |
| 14:21.16 | Gnarfoz | I just might |
| 14:22.56 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 14:22.59 | Fisker | i played some darkspore |
| 14:23.04 | bluspacecow | woah |
| 14:26.09 | Fisker | bluspacecows all over the floor |
| 14:28.20 | bluspacecow | eh oh |
| 14:28.26 | bluspacecow | i gots to go to beds nows |
| 14:28.35 | bluspacecow | *talks fisker full size body pillow* |
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| 14:46.37 | olafski | that HHTD thing looks useful, thanks foxlit / xinhuan :) |
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| 14:59.55 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm watching more deep space nine |
| 15:00.03 | olafski | cool beans! |
| 15:00.21 | airtonix | olafski: have you played world of goo? |
| 15:00.24 | olafski | a bit |
| 15:00.40 | airtonix | we had a thing to do at class on friday |
| 15:00.59 | airtonix | in groups of 4 create the tallest freestanding tower out of straws in 20minutes |
| 15:01.13 | airtonix | using 100 straws |
| 15:01.16 | olafski | mind if I ask how old you are? :$ |
| 15:01.28 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 15:01.34 | airtonix | i'm five |
| 15:01.37 | olafski | :P |
| 15:02.03 | olafski | it wasn't meant as an insult |
| 15:02.18 | olafski | I just assumed you were beyond the age where they made you do that :$ |
| 15:02.36 | airtonix | it was problem solving and programming tutorial |
| 15:02.59 | olafski | hmkay |
| 15:03.05 | olafski | so did your WoG experience help? |
| 15:03.13 | airtonix | definitely |
| 15:03.22 | airtonix | although i made too many triangles |
| 15:03.51 | olafski | :) |
| 15:03.52 | olafski | did you win? |
| 15:04.05 | airtonix | no |
| 15:04.16 | airtonix | too many triangles |
| 15:04.59 | airtonix | the idea was to make a pie at the bottom of about 6 trianlges |
| 15:05.23 | airtonix | then make three large struts out of two lengths each |
| 15:05.36 | airtonix | with one triangle up near the top |
| 15:06.03 | olafski | hmm |
| 15:06.07 | olafski | sounds like it could work yeah |
| 15:06.55 | airtonix | could use sticky tape too |
| 15:07.51 | olafski | ah that helps too :P" |
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| 15:10.02 | olafski | seems pretty tedious if you had to only connect them by making little incisions and sticking them into each other |
| 15:10.16 | airtonix | no |
| 15:10.24 | airtonix | oh yeah without sticky tape |
| 15:10.43 | airtonix | but i just crimped the ends and stuck them in the end of the other |
| 15:10.58 | airtonix | they were also the kind that had bendable sections near the top |
| 15:11.28 | olafski | I wish they'd remove that invisible wall in MgT :'( |
| 15:15.27 | karl_w_w | can you hear us pumpin on your stereooo |
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| 15:16.00 | karl_w_w | i guess not |
| 15:16.12 | olafski | no, sorry |
| 15:16.19 | olafski | my stereo isn't even connected since I moved here =( |
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| 15:48.50 | Wobin | hm, I'm liking DA2 so far |
| 15:48.58 | Wobin | Snark option is highly entertaining |
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| 15:49.52 | mckenziemc | woops |
| 15:50.37 | airtonix | really? |
| 15:51.00 | mckenziemc | airtonix |
| 15:51.05 | mckenziemc | i'll "woops" your face |
| 15:54.46 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 15:54.48 | jnwhiteh | i'm bored. |
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| 15:58.26 | airtonix | this is crazy |
| 15:58.48 | airtonix | i can run python apache and bind on my adsl modem |
| 15:59.07 | A-KO | heh |
| 15:59.07 | airtonix | not sure i'd want to though |
| 15:59.54 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:59.58 | Fisker | wanna make out then? |
| 16:00.20 | jnwhiteh | k k |
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| 16:04.07 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm incredibley awesome |
| 16:04.12 | airtonix | did you know ? |
| 16:13.29 | mckenziemc | if only you were incredibly awesome too |
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| 16:27.43 | airtonix | will you sleep tonight mckenziemc |
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| 16:31.20 | mckenziemc | no |
| 16:31.39 | mckenziemc | i will take a few naps, then maybe sleep tomorrow (ie after midnight) |
| 16:32.34 | airtonix | i suggest |
| 16:32.54 | airtonix | you either consume large quantities of meth-amphetamine |
| 16:33.05 | airtonix | or use toothpicks to keep your eyes open |
| 16:33.35 | airtonix | because I, your cat will murder you when you least expect it |
| 16:34.10 | mckenziemc | airtonix, i suggest you wipe yourself |
| 16:34.26 | airtonix | :< |
| 16:35.17 | mckenziemc | and shave that moustache |
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| 16:37.26 | airtonix | i have no idea what you are talking about |
| 16:37.29 | karl_w_w | why is my atlasloot broken! |
| 16:37.34 | karl_w_w | blames airtonix |
| 16:37.42 | airtonix | atlasloot is crap |
| 16:37.45 | airtonix | that's why |
| 16:37.58 | karl_w_w | chilling tale bretheren |
| 16:38.01 | olafski | how is it broken? |
| 16:38.14 | airtonix | olafski: because karl_w_w uses it |
| 16:40.26 | mckenziemc | icy anecdote comrade karl_w_w |
| 16:40.36 | olafski | I don't think I asked you airtonix, nor did I ask why :P |
| 16:42.39 | airtonix | i know, but i knew you'd want to know why even if you didn't conciously know it |
| 16:44.08 | mckenziemc | why airtonix |
| 16:44.14 | mckenziemc | why |
| 16:44.45 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 16:44.48 | airtonix | no one can be told what the matrix is, you need to experience it for yourself |
| 16:44.48 | Fisker | i keel u |
| 16:45.45 | mckenziemc | ~dict matrix |
| 16:46.42 | mckenziemc | ^ counter-evidence |
| 16:46.51 | airtonix | i disagree |
| 16:47.10 | mckenziemc | i agree |
| 16:47.29 | olafski | morpheus was quite the badass in CSI yesterday |
| 16:47.33 | airtonix | i know you agree with my disagreement |
| 16:47.51 | airtonix | so we both agree that you can not be told what the matrix is |
| 16:48.21 | olafski | quite endearing, this fisker impression |
| 16:48.58 | mckenziemc | airtonix: non sequiter |
| 16:49.03 | olafski | the highest form of flattery and such =) |
| 16:49.26 | airtonix | i don't speak french or latin (or any euro) mckenziemc |
| 16:49.59 | mckenziemc | it's english |
| 16:50.03 | mckenziemc | borrowed from latin ofc |
| 16:50.11 | airtonix | therefore... |
| 16:51.35 | mckenziemc | see: hamburger |
| 16:52.01 | Ackis | http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10524&start=0&sid=8f5754efe246c7ae1ed77e11fa056a26 |
| 16:54.41 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:54.49 | Fisker | i played darkspore Ackis |
| 16:55.43 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 16:55.55 | Fisker | make an awesome bluetooth controller for android phones |
| 16:56.01 | Fisker | i.e. a gamepad |
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| 16:56.21 | olafski | I was thinking of grabbing Magicka |
| 16:56.22 | olafski | anyone played it? |
| 16:56.45 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:57.25 | olafski | anyone else? |
| 16:57.29 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:57.50 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 16:58.03 | olafski | was it good? I was a little total biscuit video about it and it seemed ok |
| 16:58.05 | Thunder_Child | and fisker actually has played it |
| 16:58.07 | olafski | and not very expensive :) |
| 16:58.18 | Thunder_Child | it was interesting |
| 16:58.41 | Thunder_Child | but like fisker said, making the spells on the fly can become tiresome |
| 16:59.22 | karl_w_w | ~dict hamburger |
| 16:59.39 | olafski | yeah that's one of the things I saw in the video a bit, seems if you have to do that every time you cast it could get annoying |
| 17:00.12 | foxlit | Ackis: "Last edited [...] on Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:39 pm, edited 1 time in total. " I just can't take that seriously. |
| 17:00.55 | karl_w_w | edits foxlit |
| 17:00.57 | Wobin | I've played it |
| 17:00.58 | Thunder_Child | but the title wasnt |
| 17:01.00 | Wobin | I quite enjoyed it |
| 17:01.11 | Wobin | I haven't done the multiplayer though |
| 17:01.16 | Wobin | which, I hear, is most of the fun |
| 17:01.16 | airtonix | Ackis: so what are you saying? |
| 17:01.48 | mckenziemc | "fried cake" <- lol |
| 17:01.55 | Fisker | if you got one of them macro keyboards |
| 17:02.00 | Fisker | you can use them to make spells |
| 17:02.30 | airtonix | that's brilliant |
| 17:02.38 | Fisker | very! |
| 17:03.03 | Fisker | magicka still has a demo though |
| 17:03.39 | Thunder_Child | to lazy to make the macros though |
| 17:04.18 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:04.31 | Fisker | should've made a keybind system |
| 17:04.43 | airtonix | i gotta easier |
| 17:04.48 | airtonix | don't play it |
| 17:05.16 | Sliker | Well I hate to interrupt and everything, possibly simple question and it probably affects more than just lua: is there a way to account for special characters (á and what have you) not actually being 1 character, so I can strsub them without turning them into ?s |
| 17:05.37 | Sliker | or is there another way besides strsub etc |
| 17:06.12 | Arrowmaster | there is a utf8lib |
| 17:06.51 | sylvanaar | torchlight is fun |
| 17:07.04 | sylvanaar | anyone playing it? |
| 17:07.10 | Wobin | I liked it |
| 17:07.15 | Sliker | Arrowmaster: oic, thanks. |
| 17:07.18 | airtonix | i didn't |
| 17:07.22 | Wobin | do they ahve multiplayer yet? |
| 17:07.23 | foxlit | Sliker: use strlenutf8 |
| 17:08.20 | mckenziemc | Fisker while airtonix had had had had had had had had had had had a greater effect on Torhal |
| 17:10.17 | airtonix | layoff the methamphetamines |
| 17:10.50 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 17:11.04 | mckenziemc | as if i had had any while i had had had had |
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| 17:18.46 | Fisker | http://www.itworld.com/security/139794/with-hacking-music-can-take-control-your-car <-teehee |
| 17:19.18 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: because it's bad for your heart |
| 17:19.58 | Shirik|Gh | That means someone's a dumbass |
| 17:20.13 | mckenziemc | but airtonix, i'm heartless |
| 17:20.16 | olafski | interesting stuff fisker =) |
| 17:20.37 | Shirik|Gh | actually no, it means the person that wrote the headline is a dumbass |
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| 17:20.46 | Fisker | hey Shirik|Gh |
| 17:20.47 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 17:20.59 | Shirik|Gh | remote control cars are not possible |
| 17:21.00 | Fisker | how so btw Shirik|Gh ? |
| 17:21.01 | Shirik|Gh | killing the engine, sure |
| 17:21.30 | Wobin | unlocking the doors? |
| 17:21.40 | airtonix | activating warp drive? |
| 17:21.41 | Shirik|Gh | sure |
| 17:21.45 | Shirik|Gh | but not actually driving the car |
| 17:21.46 | airtonix | i knew it |
| 17:21.47 | Wobin | isn't that enough? |
| 17:21.58 | olafski | is that bird jousting thing in MH a hasselhoff reference? |
| 17:22.10 | airtonix | Fisker: bluetooth to warpdrive! |
| 17:22.11 | Fisker | plotting a course for sector <gibberish>? |
| 17:22.19 | airtonix | GO! |
| 17:22.22 | Shirik|Gh | anyway, it's long been known CAN is insecure |
| 17:22.29 | Fisker | Being captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS. Enterprise? |
| 17:22.31 | Wobin | Shirik|Gh: the title says "Remote controlled hacking" |
| 17:22.40 | Shirik|Gh | we use it anyway for the same reason we're all on IPv4 |
| 17:22.40 | Wobin | not "Hacking your car to be remote controlled" |
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| 17:22.53 | Shirik|Gh | "Remote-controlled car hacking is a real possibility, researchers say" makes it sound like going all james bond |
| 17:23.07 | airtonix | who says i'm not |
| 17:23.09 | Wobin | perhaps you're reading it wrong =P |
| 17:23.12 | Fisker | if they were really just talking about hacking remotely they would've called it that |
| 17:23.25 | airtonix | they didn't ? |
| 17:23.32 | Wobin | In any case, the article is pretty clear |
| 17:23.38 | Fisker | not if they call it remote-controlled hacking |
| 17:23.44 | Fisker | that's just adding confusing |
| 17:23.51 | Fisker | if you can even call it that |
| 17:24.02 | Wobin | you just can't read properly |
| 17:24.02 | airtonix | i'm bored |
| 17:24.15 | Fisker | i bought a MicroSD card airtonix |
| 17:24.22 | mckenziemc1 | with hacking, i can take control of airtonix's brain |
| 17:24.33 | Wobin | mckenziemc1: sure if you use an axe |
| 17:24.38 | mckenziemc1 | problem is, once a brain's been hacked to pieces, it cant' do much |
| 17:24.46 | Fisker | that reminds me of that game mckenziemc1 |
| 17:24.48 | Fisker | "Mindjacking" |
| 17:24.50 | Wobin | well you can move it around |
| 17:24.50 | Fisker | where you "Mindhack" |
| 17:24.52 | Fisker | herp derp |
| 17:24.52 | mckenziemc1 | exactly Wobin |
| 17:25.03 | Wobin | as long as you keep the axe level |
| 17:25.10 | Fisker | i want one of those cars from google that can drive by themselves |
| 17:25.14 | Wobin | somewhat fiddly, however |
| 17:25.24 | olafski | silly google fanboi |
| 17:25.32 | Fisker | I wonder if one can take a drivers license with your own car |
| 17:25.36 | Fisker | then just pretend like you're driving |
| 17:25.37 | Fisker | hoho |
| 17:25.48 | mckenziemc1 | i'd like a car that could drive itself into fisker's living room too |
| 17:25.50 | airtonix | pull over android |
| 17:26.45 | sylvanaar | can you imagine rooting your car |
| 17:27.13 | Shirik|Gh | why would I |
| 17:27.16 | sylvanaar | man this sick beard thing is great - i just got rid of my premium cable channels |
| 17:27.23 | Shirik|Gh | you can replace it if you want to |
| 17:28.08 | mckenziemc1 | replace what |
| 17:28.13 | sylvanaar | i need to find some more good shows |
| 17:28.30 | sylvanaar | any recommendations? |
| 17:28.30 | airtonix | sylvanaar: you one kinky cat |
| 17:28.49 | Wobin | Castle? |
| 17:28.53 | sylvanaar | whats that |
| 17:29.01 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.11 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 17:29.14 | Fisker | not so hey sylvanaar |
| 17:29.30 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_%28TV_series%29 |
| 17:30.03 | airtonix | don't bother with csi |
| 17:30.14 | airtonix | or hawai five o |
| 17:30.29 | airtonix | or neighbours |
| 17:30.47 | sylvanaar | http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=83462&lid=7 ? |
| 17:30.52 | airtonix | or anything created by australia television stations |
| 17:30.56 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 17:31.07 | Wobin | for some reason Home and Away and Neighbours is really popular |
| 17:31.09 | Wobin | god knows why |
| 17:31.25 | sylvanaar | i like sci fi shows - but there arent many good ones |
| 17:31.27 | airtonix | this country is a social engineers test ground |
| 17:31.33 | Wobin | sylvanaar: that's the one |
| 17:31.40 | Wobin | Did you like Firefly? |
| 17:31.49 | sylvanaar | yeah, i have it on bluray |
| 17:31.55 | Wobin | you'll like Castle |
| 17:31.57 | airtonix | well there's nothing like it |
| 17:32.02 | Wobin | simliar banter |
| 17:32.07 | airtonix | no |
| 17:32.20 | airtonix | firefly had a distinct masculinity about it |
| 17:32.32 | sylvanaar | its the same lead actor |
| 17:32.37 | Wobin | pats airtonix |
| 17:32.38 | airtonix | castle is the middle ground between firefly and sex in the city |
| 17:32.42 | Wobin | one day, we'll get Firefly back |
| 17:32.46 | Wobin | and it'll be great |
| 17:32.58 | Wobin | Nah, it's not as gormless as SITC |
| 17:33.15 | nevcairiel | Castle is great, one of my favorite shows |
| 17:33.40 | Wobin | Leverage is also a good series |
| 17:34.52 | sylvanaar | wtf http://thetvdb.com/index.php?tab=series&id=204781&lid=7 |
| 17:34.54 | airtonix | actually you might the event |
| 17:35.11 | Fisker | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tembotrunks/tembo-trunks-earbud-speakers <-this was an awesome idea just about until they advertised it as ipod/iphone speakers |
| 17:35.41 | Wobin | sylvanaar: is that supposed to be a take off of Rome? |
| 17:36.05 | airtonix | no |
| 17:36.14 | airtonix | i keel u |
| 17:36.54 | sylvanaar | idk, probably |
| 17:37.10 | airtonix | Fisker: what do you expect |
| 17:37.18 | airtonix | australians are faggots |
| 17:37.41 | Fisker | you wish |
| 17:37.42 | olafski | nice thing fisker, if it actually works |
| 17:37.43 | airtonix | i mean technologically herded |
| 17:40.23 | airtonix | it won't |
| 17:40.43 | airtonix | they'll rip, they won't do the job of real speakers of the same size |
| 17:40.54 | Fisker | obviously |
| 17:41.06 | airtonix | and because they are made for iDevices |
| 17:41.07 | Fisker | but it'll be great if you're still living in the middle of nowhere :3 |
| 17:41.16 | airtonix | they'll cost 10 times more than they should |
| 17:41.34 | Fisker | By this time next year Apple will have all related patents and this invention will be the best one ever |
| 17:41.35 | olafski | guess what |
| 17:41.49 | Fisker | (When they release it themselves of course) |
| 17:41.49 | olafski | I got a new assignment from work, gonna work at some government agency for a bit.. they solely use macs ;< |
| 17:41.57 | Fisker | bam |
| 17:42.02 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 17:42.09 | airtonix | imadbro |
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| 17:42.40 | mckenziemc | wemad |
| 17:42.57 | Axcy | Hello, I'm wondering if there's any example of a addon that remembers if I've whispered someone within the last 5-10 minutes ? |
| 17:43.24 | olafski | you're spamming people and don't want to doublespam? ;) |
| 17:43.33 | airtonix | BUSTED |
| 17:43.44 | mckenziemc | store names in a table |
| 17:43.46 | Axcy | olafski: Haha, something like that :) - Though only people in a specific zone :p |
| 17:43.59 | olafski | don't think I'd feel right about helping you with that :'( |
| 17:44.12 | Axcy | mckenziemc: But the names would be flushed on each relog/reload wouldn't it? |
| 17:44.31 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 17:44.31 | olafski | are you really reloading/relogging that often? :P |
| 17:44.39 | Axcy | olafski: You don't have too - I do it already.. but it's not that bad.. in 12 hours I've whispered about 6 people |
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| 17:44.52 | mckenziemc | function whisper(name) if alreadyWhispered[name] then return end; alreadyWhispered[name] = true; --[[code to whisper]] end |
| 17:44.58 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 17:45.04 | airtonix | hi mckenziemc |
| 17:45.12 | mckenziemc | you can store the table in your savedvariables if you need |
| 17:45.23 | olafski | axcy: so in 12 hours you whispered 6 people, yet you can't remember if you whispered someone in the past 5-10 minutes? :S |
| 17:45.37 | mckenziemc | bye airtonix |
| 17:45.41 | airtonix | hoho |
| 17:45.55 | Axcy | olafski: It's more of a safeguard |
| 17:45.57 | mckenziemc | olafski: it's the addon that needs to remember |
| 17:46.09 | olafski | mckenziemc: sure, but that addon is supposed to serve a purpose I assume =) |
| 17:46.32 | mckenziemc | which isn't telling _him_ if he's already whispered teh person :p |
| 17:46.33 | airtonix | olafski: yeah to help me automate my spam |
| 17:46.53 | olafski | mckenziemc: I asked him about the purpose and he confirmed :P |
| 17:47.33 | mckenziemc | no |
| 17:47.44 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 17:47.44 | airtonix | yes |
| 17:47.44 | mckenziemc | you misunderstood his confirmation |
| 17:47.48 | airtonix | no |
| 17:47.52 | Axcy | mckenziemc: The whole saving in savedvariables - Got anything you can refer me too? - I was thinking of storing the name + timestamp and comparing the timestamp with timenow |
| 17:48.08 | airtonix | why? |
| 17:48.42 | olafski | I don't think I did mckenziemc, but I'll leave this then.. I don't think it's something I want to help with =) |
| 17:48.58 | mckenziemc | @project Echo |
| 17:48.59 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/echo/. Echo. Game: WoW. mckenziemc (Manager/Author). Updated: 66 days ago |
| 17:49.21 | mckenziemc | idk if that will help you, but i store times of when _I_ received channel messages from other people |
| 17:49.39 | mckenziemc | different thing but you may be able to get some ideas from it |
| 17:49.53 | Axcy | Perfect, much appreciated mckenziemc :) |
| 17:50.17 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 17:55.20 | foxlit | The sheer quality of interior layouts in this game is astonishing |
| 17:55.32 | foxlit | s/quality/quantity/ |
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| 17:57.42 | Fisker | i hate the new |
| 18:12.05 | airtonix | http://notalwaysright.com/needs-a-mass-reboot/9933 |
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| 18:17.19 | Shirik|Gh | "get the official NAR iphone app!" |
| 18:17.20 | Shirik|Gh | WHY |
| 18:17.41 | Shirik|Gh | I don't get this. People could make it work for ALL smartphones if they just made a mobile version of their site |
| 18:17.46 | Shirik|Gh | but everyone has to have an app |
| 18:17.50 | Shirik|Gh | if you don't have an app you're not cool |
| 18:18.16 | Thunder_Child | i prefer an app to a website actually, it's more better |
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| 18:19.40 | Fisker | i agree Thunder_Child |
| 18:20.39 | Fisker | though i guess with some luck Google could do something like browser apps but for android |
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| 18:24.03 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 18:24.06 | Fisker | why are you a jerk? |
| 18:25.15 | mckenziemc | May a moody baby doom a yam. |
| 18:25.28 | mckenziemc | A dog, a panic, in a pagoda. |
| 18:25.35 | mckenziemc | UFO Tofu |
| 18:25.45 | mckenziemc | Oozy rat in a sanitary zoo. |
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| 18:29.09 | mckenziemc | ~trout Seerah |
| 18:29.09 | purl | ACTION slaps Seerah around a bit with a large trout! |
| 18:29.32 | Seerah | did ya miss me? :p |
| 18:29.55 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 18:30.09 | mckenziemc | why is Google Chrome such a jerk? |
| 18:30.14 | mckenziemc | he's hogging all my bandwidth :( |
| 18:30.56 | Cide | google chrome hogs bandwidth? |
| 18:31.06 | Cide | try visiting sites with fewer/smaller resources? |
| 18:31.08 | Fisker | only because it's downloading/uploading shit |
| 18:31.41 | mckenziemc | yes, when it tries to update without asking you on a dialup connection |
| 18:32.04 | Cide | I get an update icon |
| 18:32.04 | mckenziemc | problem is i'm not visiting sites |
| 18:32.12 | Cide | and I get to choose when to do it |
| 18:32.15 | Cide | try not sitting on the dev channel? |
| 18:32.36 | mckenziemc | update, or install |
| 18:32.49 | mckenziemc | i'm not |
| 18:32.54 | mckenziemc | it downloads without asking |
| 18:33.04 | Cide | shrug |
| 18:33.12 | Cide | I couldn't care less personally |
| 18:33.23 | Cide | get a connection worthy of 2001 or use ie6 I guess |
| 18:34.01 | mckenziemc | the effort they go through to make sure you get updates whether or not you want them is rediculous : / |
| 18:34.14 | mckenziemc | i wish i could |
| 18:34.15 | Cide | so change browser |
| 18:34.26 | mckenziemc | tell at&t to give me a connection worthy of 2001 |
| 18:34.37 | mckenziemc | it downloads even when you're not using chrome |
| 18:35.26 | mckenziemc | bit silly if i have to install it in a VM or repeatedly remove its update hooks if i want to have it intallled to play around with occasionally |
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| 18:51.45 | Fisker | it's good mckenziemc |
| 18:53.01 | mckenziemc | hmm? |
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| 18:55.30 | Fisker | that they're automatically downloading updates |
| 18:56.54 | mckenziemc | it would be, if it was an option that was enabled by default but could be disabled |
| 18:57.53 | mckenziemc | especially considering i would actually have been able to download an offline installer by this time if it had told me there was an update at let me handle it, like eg. firefox |
| 18:58.35 | mckenziemc | (Chrome uses BITS when available to download updates, and BITS performs poorly on dialup connections) |
| 18:59.13 | mckenziemc | i suspect it's restarted the download considering how long it's taken, but ofc they dont' tell you the progress either so i can't verify) |
| 18:59.34 | mckenziemc | wakes at Cairenn |
| 18:59.42 | Cairenn | hi mckenziemc |
| 19:00.09 | mckenziemc | waves* |
| 19:07.17 | olafski | I heard that raccoon city was just the beginning :( |
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| 19:14.20 | Fisker | i once racooned your city |
| 19:14.51 | olafski | interesting |
| 19:14.53 | olafski | tell me more! |
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| 19:18.23 | mckenziemc | hmm, i suppose it could be a sign i'm too dependent on the internet if i keep trying to load a dictionary website to look up a word instead of using the physical one a couple feet to my left |
| 19:18.58 | Thunder_Child | it's faster |
| 19:19.24 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc: is it for spelling or definition? |
| 19:19.31 | mckenziemc | not when the site won't load |
| 19:19.51 | mckenziemc | definition |
| 19:20.00 | Fisker | anyway mckenziemc |
| 19:20.08 | mckenziemc | actually i think i'm going to want a thesaurus : / |
| 19:20.09 | Fisker | have you checked if disabling BITS will stop chrome updating? |
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| 19:21.01 | mckenziemc | it won't, if you stop BITS chrome starts up its own downloader |
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| 19:21.37 | Fisker | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009/05/customize-or-disable-google-update.html |
| 19:21.38 | Fisker | that then |
| 19:21.44 | mckenziemc | which i can kill ofc but that does't solve the root problem |
| 19:22.29 | mckenziemc | can't load, internet is saturated |
| 19:22.43 | mckenziemc | is that the registry thing though? i had forgotten about that |
| 19:23.26 | mckenziemc | it'll work i think but it's still poor form : / |
| 19:24.01 | Fisker | you can get a policy for it |
| 19:24.27 | mckenziemc | also disabling it means it won't even tell me if an update is available, right? |
| 19:25.16 | nebula169 | can't you just kill the process? |
| 19:25.28 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 19:25.44 | Fisker | you can try mckenziemc |
| 19:25.48 | Fisker | otherwise you can always go chromium |
| 19:26.44 | mckenziemc | (11:21:35 AM) mckenziemc: which i can kill ofc but that does't solve the root problem |
| 19:29.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Who here has a blackberry who could help me configure alerts on mine? |
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| 19:30.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait a minute |
| 19:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Gh isn't going to be useless here! |
| 19:30.47 | ScytheBlade1 | SHIRIK! |
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| 19:31.55 | Fisker | Shirik|Gh |
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| 19:38.30 | Fisker | Shirik|Gh |
| 19:38.46 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
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| 20:04.57 | Shirik|Gh | ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:04.59 | Shirik|Gh | wat |
| 20:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | How2setup alerts on my bby? |
| 20:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I want to make it shut up 100% of the time in every regard |
| 20:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | UNLESS person Y emails me |
| 20:06.46 | ScytheBlade1 | In which case I want the LED to blink |
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| 20:20.57 | Fisker | hey Shirik|Gh |
| 20:27.24 | Fisker | oh ok then Shirik|Gh |
| 20:27.31 | Fisker | or should i say Shirik|Ghjerk? |
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| 20:38.36 | Fisker | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:42.20 | BlackNet | does blizz have restrictions on raid utility stuff? |
| 20:42.36 | nevcairiel | like what? |
| 20:42.38 | BlackNet | like for ready checks, role checks and replacement of the world markers |
| 20:42.38 | Gnarfoz | they would never do such a heinous thing |
| 20:43.22 | nevcairiel | you can do anything to ready and role checks, but the markers are protected |
| 20:44.28 | BlackNet | get these error msgs when i try to use my markers, says blizzard has blocked <random plugin name> from doing this action. the plugin they mention has nothing to do with the markers |
| 20:45.07 | nevcairiel | tinat is that way, sometimes it seems like its not even related |
| 20:45.51 | BlackNet | like last night in the raid, 10n atramedes, it said it blocked power auras from using the raid markers |
| 20:46.01 | BlackNet | then said it blocked recount from using the raid markers |
| 20:49.32 | BlackNet | this |
| 20:49.34 | BlackNet | http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=382982 |
| 20:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | hey Fisker |
| 20:52.58 | karl_w_w | Statistics show that 1 in 20 of us live next door to a convicted pedophile. Not me though, I live next to two stunning 12 year olds. |
| 20:54.26 | foxlit | BlackNet: there's basically nothing to be done about that. |
| 20:54.31 | BlackNet | apparently this is an issue that is well known |
| 20:54.36 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 20:54.53 | BlackNet | wowace is saying it's a problem on blizz' end and the date is 2008 |
| 20:55.10 | foxlit | You're confusing problems. |
| 20:55.43 | foxlit | The "XYZ has been blocked" message isn't necessarily a Blizzard problem. |
| 20:59.54 | foxlit | The specific instance of it pertaining to raid markers is partially their fault, since it's silly that the raid markers are protected in the first place. |
| 21:00.29 | BlackNet | recount and power auras does not even use them so there is some type of leak type going on it seems |
| 21:00.46 | foxlit | It's dropdown menu api. |
| 21:00.47 | Arrowmaster | theres a problem with dropdown menus |
| 21:01.51 | BlackNet | the raid marker is a drop down button. |
| 21:02.07 | BlackNet | any type of workaround or fix for the problem |
| 21:02.16 | foxlit | Stop using addons. Problem solved. |
| 21:04.00 | foxlit | Actually, if you can find an exact way to reproduce it, it'd be helpful |
| 21:04.15 | foxlit | The problem, in my experience, is that it's often unpredictable when it actually starts to complain |
| 21:04.25 | BlackNet | i found one post that did that |
| 21:05.04 | Arrowmaster | the only solution is to top using addons that use dropdown menus |
| 21:06.53 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: only some, presumably. |
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| 21:07.37 | foxlit | Since it doesn't to be a simple consequence of using a dropdown menu. |
| 21:08.14 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 21:08.29 | foxlit | hey you, fisker. |
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| 21:18.54 | Arrowmaster | from what i remember its just using a dropdown menu big enough to cause more lines to be dynamically created |
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| 22:16.48 | foxlit | I wonder. Does this game intend to kill off all the supporting characters? |
| 22:17.48 | Fulgerul | I need to get a function timer/profiler. Which one would you guys recommend ? |
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| 22:34.10 | Cide | google |
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| 22:53.33 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
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| 23:16.26 | Cide | so |
| 23:16.41 | Cide | given nvidia drivers |
| 23:16.50 | Cide | is linux wow performance actually good? |
| 23:16.59 | Cide | and do they support the graphics features from windows? |
| 23:17.08 | Cide | or is that an inherent limitation of the opengl wow engine |
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