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| 00:07.14 | Jamash | Fisker: do you work in the cell phone industry or something? |
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| 00:10.18 | Cide | why do 0 bytes when you can do 0 *bits*? |
| 00:10.23 | Cide | oh wow |
| 00:10.26 | Cide | super-scrolled up |
| 00:11.25 | Jamash | http://youtu.be/_ZSbC09qgLI kitten coffee |
| 00:11.42 | Jamash | warning: contains lolspeak |
| 00:12.41 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 00:12.46 | bluspacecow | is that polka music ? |
| 00:12.57 | Jamash | sounds a bit klezmer-y |
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| 00:28.36 | Kraps | what the heck Jamash |
| 00:29.09 | Jamash | Kraps: KITTEN COFFEE |
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| 00:45.10 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxXlDyTD7wo |
| 00:45.12 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 00:55.24 | Jamash | damn |
| 00:55.31 | Jamash | that was good |
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| 01:00.31 | Kraps | yeah |
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| 01:04.57 | Cide | http://vagrantup.com/ is pretty cool |
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| 01:06.59 | Trela | Cide: Looks nice. |
| 01:07.08 | Trela | Kind of like Puppet, but for a specific purpose. |
| 01:08.34 | Primer | I just use AWS |
| 01:11.05 | xyphoid | that looks pretty cool |
| 01:12.30 | Kraps | "Plus, why would Batman ever need money when fighting a bad guy. And why does Batman need a credit card? Bruce Wayne is a rich businessman worth millions, why would he need to borrow money?" |
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| 01:18.10 | foxlit | "New in Release 267.24 [...] Improves compatibility with Dragon Age II." |
| 01:18.17 | foxlit | Thanks nvidia. |
| 01:19.09 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 01:19.29 | Zyn | but doesn't make it better one bit |
| 01:19.34 | Xinhuan | well at least i will now expect less crashes |
| 01:19.38 | Cide | it's great on pc imo |
| 01:19.42 | Xinhuan | particularly when i alt-tab |
| 01:19.55 | Cide | combat isn't particularly less complex but way more fluid and fun |
| 01:20.04 | Xinhuan | Cide: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-ii/user-reviews |
| 01:20.05 | Cide | storytelling is better |
| 01:20.07 | foxlit | From a game play perspective |
| 01:20.18 | foxlit | The designers are cheating bastards. |
| 01:20.19 | Zyn | would be better if it wasn't the same dungeon being used over and over, with just lame closed doors as limiters :< |
| 01:20.20 | Cide | yes, people don't like change and are protesting |
| 01:20.22 | Xinhuan | i haven't seen _this amount_ of negative reaction for a triple A title |
| 01:20.32 | Xinhuan | compared to the positive ones |
| 01:20.33 | Cide | it's pretty silly |
| 01:20.35 | foxlit | To the point of spawning enemies on a whim out of thin air. |
| 01:20.43 | Xinhuan | i think FF14 got a similar backlash |
| 01:20.49 | Cide | foxlit: dao did that too |
| 01:20.51 | Xinhuan | but that's about the only 2 games |
| 01:21.00 | Xinhuan | that has such a negative backlash on fans |
| 01:21.06 | foxlit | Cide: never in a way that was quite as jarring to me |
| 01:21.15 | Cide | spiders were the most obvious |
| 01:21.19 | Cide | scared the shit out of me |
| 01:21.23 | foxlit | It's got a thing for large-crowd combat |
| 01:21.26 | Xinhuan | you need to play on Nightmare difficulty |
| 01:21.33 | Cide | I'm playing on hard atm |
| 01:21.34 | Xinhuan | to get any challenge or tactical combat out of it |
| 01:21.35 | foxlit | Seems like if it isn't 12 vs 4, it's not happy. |
| 01:21.40 | Xinhuan | Normal difficult is too easy |
| 01:21.48 | Cide | but the lack of friendly fire on hard is disappointing |
| 01:21.55 | Xinhuan | it feels like Diablo2-easy on normal |
| 01:21.55 | Cide | I thought hard had friendly fire in dao |
| 01:22.04 | Cide | for aoe |
| 01:22.08 | Xinhuan | nope, you need it on Nightmare |
| 01:22.12 | Cide | in da2 yeah |
| 01:22.16 | Cide | but are you sure it was the same in dao? |
| 01:22.24 | Xinhuan | Hard as friendly fire in dao, but 50% reduced |
| 01:22.27 | Xinhuan | has* |
| 01:22.28 | Cide | ah |
| 01:22.30 | Cide | gotcha |
| 01:22.47 | Cide | some of the fights have been quite challenging on hard too though |
| 01:23.02 | Xinhuan | i think the bad user reviews are justified |
| 01:23.06 | foxlit | The difficulty curve is rather random |
| 01:23.08 | Cide | nah |
| 01:23.11 | Xinhuan | it hasn't lived up to the hype its been given |
| 01:23.22 | Cide | I can see users giving it a 5/10 because they don't like the new style |
| 01:23.31 | Cide | 0/10 is just silly and childish |
| 01:23.44 | Xinhuan | compare this to |
| 01:23.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/user-reviews |
| 01:23.47 | Cide | I like it a lot so far (about 10h in), but naturally the changes aren't for everyone |
| 01:24.02 | Cide | same childishness there |
| 01:24.08 | Cide | unless insane just adds more tactical depth as opposed to more hp/damage/whatever |
| 01:24.42 | Xinhuan | well here's the thing, people are fans of DAO because of the RPG elements, and especially the character development and dialog |
| 01:24.46 | Jamash | I think the only thing that interested me about DA1 was the DLC where you play as one of the monsters |
| 01:24.49 | Xinhuan | those are felt to be too shallow in DA2 |
| 01:24.57 | Cide | justifying maybe a 5/10 |
| 01:24.59 | Cide | not 0/10 |
| 01:25.32 | Xinhuan | still, metacritics user score isn't the average of all ratings |
| 01:25.42 | Kraps | Xinhuan: you think ME2 wasnt cursed as the greatest blight to gaming ever? |
| 01:25.44 | Xinhuan | lower rated scored are multiplied by a lower weightage |
| 01:26.08 | Xinhuan | so if there were only 2 user reviews, one gave 10, the other gave 0 |
| 01:26.16 | Kraps | i think metacritic removes all the insane negativity after a while |
| 01:26.20 | Xinhuan | the user average score won't be 5, it'll be closer to 7.5 |
| 01:26.21 | foxlit | needs a metametacritic, imo |
| 01:26.32 | Jamash | 0 should be reserved for "reformats my hard drive" |
| 01:26.50 | Xinhuan | knowing this, you need to know that, you need A LOT OF 0/10s to even reach an average of 3.0 |
| 01:26.55 | foxlit | "I am extremely disappointed in this review. The reviewer is clearly an incompetent baboon. 0/10, would not read again." |
| 01:27.15 | Corrodias | 0 means it was a bad idea, it doesn't run on any system, and possibly gives you cancer. |
| 01:27.18 | Jamash | registers metacriticcritic.com |
| 01:27.27 | Cide | lawl |
| 01:27.30 | bluspacecow | and also kills your dog corrodias |
| 01:27.32 | Cide | metacriticmetacritic.com |
| 01:27.42 | Jamash | naw, metametacriticcritic |
| 01:27.48 | Corrodias | 1 means it at least RUNS. and does those other things. |
| 01:28.01 | Jamash | 0 could also mean a box full of flaming poop |
| 01:28.04 | foxlit | Corrodias: to be fair, it was hard work getting this thing to run at all |
| 01:28.16 | Jamash | 5 should be something like "meh" |
| 01:28.26 | Xinhuan | well every person has a different rating system |
| 01:28.27 | foxlit | Did I mention that its auth basically gave up and said "reinstall game, I quit!" |
| 01:28.36 | Jamash | and 10 should be "jizzed in my pants" |
| 01:29.07 | Xinhuan | if the game isn't fun, it may not be worth more than a 1/10 for a player |
| 01:29.08 | Xinhuan | and that's fair |
| 01:29.13 | Jamash | but more realistically, linear rating systems are dumb for games |
| 01:29.23 | Xinhuan | if the game crashes on his computer all the time, definitely worth a 0/10 |
| 01:29.35 | foxlit | I think their favorable/mixed/unfavorable bars are where it's at, anyway |
| 01:29.47 | Jamash | games are more complicated than any other form of consumer entertainment |
| 01:30.02 | Corrodias | Jamash: i disagree; it's effective. what matters then is that hte READER has to know what they like. |
| 01:30.14 | Corrodias | and have to actually read the reviews |
| 01:30.23 | Jamash | Corrodias: What I mean is there are many, many aspects to a game that other entertainment media simply don't have |
| 01:30.34 | Xinhuan | still, considering that <5 is red, 6-7 is yellow and 8-10 is green |
| 01:30.36 | Corrodias | saying it's an 8 is meaningless if you don't know why it's an 8, but i can definitely say that "this game was awesome, that game was not" |
| 01:30.39 | foxlit | "Dragon Age 2 (DirectX 11)âthere is corruption in the terrain rendering.  [779327]" |
| 01:30.39 | Jamash | If you buy an MP3 you're not going to be frustrated by its controls |
| 01:30.39 | Xinhuan | that's a lot of red reviews |
| 01:30.53 | Jamash | If you buy a DVD you're not going to be disappointed by its multiplayer component |
| 01:31.00 | xyphoid | are there really 27 pieces of DLC on release |
| 01:31.09 | xyphoid | or is this hilarious exaggeration |
| 01:31.14 | Xinhuan | metacritic's "5/10" is "above average" |
| 01:31.15 | Jamash | If you buy a book it's not going to refuse to open |
| 01:31.17 | foxlit | So at least they claim they fixed that. |
| 01:31.26 | Corrodias | that's why you have to read the reviews. i don't think any MOVIE critic will be too happy if you just look at their scores and refuse to read the reviews, either. |
| 01:31.31 | Jamash | xyphoid: like ICC had 37 bosses? |
| 01:31.52 | Corrodias | you can't look at Batman Begins and Gigli and directly compare their scores |
| 01:32.07 | foxlit | I wonder if there are performance tweaks there as well. |
| 01:32.54 | Jamash | Corrodias: right, rating any form of entertainment is purely subjective, but with games there are even more levels of subjectivity than other media, in addition to objective measurements like "how often does it crash or break" |
| 01:32.54 | Xinhuan | xyphoid: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_content_%28Dragon_Age_II%29 |
| 01:33.40 | Xinhuan | i would like to point out though, that of all those 20+ DLCs, most of them are items |
| 01:33.42 | Corrodias | i just don't think it's hopeless. i actually agree with average critic ratings most of the time: they directly correspond to how much i enjoy the game, within the same genre, anyway. |
| 01:33.42 | Xinhuan | not actual content |
| 01:34.18 | Xinhuan | Cide: to most metacritic user reviews, anything less than a 5 means the game wasn't enjoyable to said person |
| 01:34.27 | Corrodias | Xinhuan: just looking at that list makes me not want to bother with the game |
| 01:34.27 | Jamash | I prefer totally subjective reviews like PA gives rather than trying to apply a number which doesn't actually mean anything because it's an average of 1000 numbers that all mean different things |
| 01:34.51 | Corrodias | EA loves to make things as complicated as possible. i really don't like them. it was a sad day that Bioware got stuck with them. |
| 01:35.17 | Jamash | Rotten Tomatoes is interesting because they apply an average to a binary scale |
| 01:35.25 | Xinhuan | Corrodias, those items aren't essential, they just give a "headstart", the best WoW anaolgy would be kinda like a BoA epic item in your mailbox in wow when you log in at level 1 |
| 01:35.52 | Corrodias | Xinhuan: still: complications |
| 01:36.10 | Xinhuan | in story terms, those items you start with are "inheritted" |
| 01:36.28 | Xinhuan | as you can see in the list, only the "Add-ons" are actual DLCs |
| 01:36.31 | Xinhuan | only 2 of them |
| 01:36.32 | Corrodias | Jamash: i think the inability to assign an overall "how much did i like this" score reveals indecisiveness in the reviewer. it can be done. the critics do it all the time, and i find value in it. |
| 01:37.04 | Jamash | Corrodias: I don't care how much a reviewer liked it, I care why they liked it |
| 01:37.12 | foxlit | Unfortunately, "how much did i like this" may not reflect how much you might like this. |
| 01:37.16 | Jamash | ^ |
| 01:37.17 | Corrodias | that's when you have to read the reviews |
| 01:37.23 | Jamash | so abolish the rating entirely |
| 01:37.36 | Corrodias | then i have to read 1000 reviews instead of 100. |
| 01:37.43 | Jamash | no you don't |
| 01:37.54 | Corrodias | i know that, even in genres i like, a game averaging below 70/100 just isn't worth my time. |
| 01:38.06 | Jamash | put a thumbs up, thumbs down on reviews, and let the best reviews float to the top |
| 01:38.34 | Corrodias | i can ignore things like Super Bass Fishing Pro that scores a 43 |
| 01:38.56 | Jamash | and lest ye argue I'm being hypocritical, a two-paragraph review is easier to judge on quality than a 100-hour RPG |
| 01:39.13 | Xinhuan | i think what many people don't understand is a metacritic user score is really a "how much did i like this game" score, and the actual post doesn't really matter |
| 01:39.45 | Jamash | Xinhuan: It's not even that, it's "did this game live up to my expectations", and there's no way to know what each user's expectations were |
| 01:39.48 | foxlit | http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541762401377815048/08A318C5DF82C3284302933AD405689401221ECA/ |
| 01:39.49 | Corrodias | unfortunately, since most of the scores wind up being 9-10 or 0, that isn't worth too much |
| 01:40.00 | Jamash | if DA1 didn't exist, DA2 would be rated much, much higher than it is |
| 01:40.07 | Xinhuan | well, but thats fair |
| 01:40.23 | Xinhuan | DA2 is widely considered worse than DAO |
| 01:40.24 | foxlit | I quite like that introduction idea. However, springing abilities on you and saying "hey, push some buttons" didn't really work :( |
| 01:40.28 | Xinhuan | hence it deserves a lower score |
| 01:40.39 | Corrodias | i think it got a lower score, overall |
| 01:40.52 | Corrodias | i haven't checked! |
| 01:40.53 | Jamash | but that's my point, is that that means the score doesn't actually tell you anything about the game itself |
| 01:41.06 | Jamash | let's say I didn't play DA1 (I didn't btw) |
| 01:41.08 | Corrodias | why doesn't it tell you? |
| 01:41.27 | Jamash | because they're not rating DA2 as a game, they're rating it as a sequel to a game |
| 01:41.29 | Corrodias | DA:O got a 90, and DA2 got a 83. both are great scores. DA:O is better. you just learned two things there. |
| 01:41.32 | Xinhuan | the score tells you the game is worse in some ways - you actually have to read to find out why |
| 01:41.49 | Corrodias | the USERS are rating it on a Bullshit scale, but the professional critics did it right. |
| 01:41.56 | Jamash | I'm talking about the 3.7 |
| 01:42.10 | Xinhuan | well, i dunno |
| 01:42.11 | Corrodias | i ignore the 3.7. i don't really care about user reviews. |
| 01:42.19 | Corrodias | those will never be worth anything |
| 01:42.22 | Jamash | I thought we were talking about user reviews :-/ |
| 01:42.37 | Corrodias | oh wow. sorry, no, i thought you meant that professional, critic reviews shouldn't use numbers. |
| 01:42.50 | Xinhuan | lets put it this way, how many triple A titles have you seen get a user review score lower than 5? |
| 01:42.50 | Corrodias | i've heard THAT argument just a few times. |
| 01:43.02 | Jamash | Xinhuan linked to the user reviews page |
| 01:43.09 | Jamash | so I figured that was the context |
| 01:43.21 | Corrodias | my apologies. ._. |
| 01:43.26 | Jamash | no worries |
| 01:44.13 | Jamash | if I were to start a video game rating site, which I'm not, the review scores would be in units of currency |
| 01:44.50 | Corrodias | like $10 vs $50, or like pounds vs pesos? |
| 01:44.59 | Jamash | $10 vs $50 |
| 01:45.09 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 01:45.16 | foxlit | I expect you'll get a large number of requests for negative ratings |
| 01:45.22 | Jamash | basically, what is the price that this game would have to drop to in order for you to buy it |
| 01:45.39 | foxlit | cue the "THIS GAME IS SO UTTERLY HORRIBLE I EXPECT BIOWARE TOPAY ME A GAZILLION DOLLARS JUST TO PLAY IT. BY THE WAY, I HAVEN |
| 01:45.39 | Jamash | so if you bought it on day 1, your price would be the actual price you paid |
| 01:45.44 | foxlit | 'T ACTUALLY DONE THAT YET" |
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| 01:45.56 | Corrodias | it's an interesting idea |
| 01:46.08 | Jamash | if you're waiting for it to go on 50% steam sale, it'd be that amount |
| 01:46.19 | Corrodias | sigh, why does gaming have to be so complicated now? |
| 01:46.36 | Corrodias | visibly ages |
| 01:46.46 | foxlit | Jamash: that seems problematic |
| 01:46.53 | Jamash | obviously, this would still be very subjective, but I think it would give an interesting perspective on rating Angry Birds vs World of Warcraft |
| 01:47.06 | foxlit | Suppose you bought something on release, and it turned out to be utter crap. |
| 01:47.09 | foxlit | Then what? :) |
| 01:47.14 | Xinhuan | so angry bird's sale price is $0.99 |
| 01:47.27 | Xinhuan | does that mean its crap? |
| 01:47.31 | Jamash | no! |
| 01:47.33 | Jamash | that's the point |
| 01:47.54 | Jamash | it would change the nature of the argument |
| 01:48.26 | Jamash | trying to rate games on an absolute 0-100 scale leads to apples-vs-oranges comparisons that aren't meaningful |
| 01:48.39 | Corrodias | that's true in a way. |
| 01:48.53 | Corrodias | the reviewers tend to take the opening day retail price into consideration. |
| 01:49.12 | Jamash | but if you have $2 in your pocket and are hungry, suddenly, your subjective evaluation of an apple vs an orange is meaningful |
| 01:49.40 | Jamash | I think it's a nice thought experiment, I'm far too lazy to implement it |
| 01:49.52 | Xinhuan | so are you saying |
| 01:50.06 | Xinhuan | in your currency rating system, angry birds would be a $30 rating? |
| 01:50.14 | Jamash | it depends, would you pay $30 for it? |
| 01:50.18 | Jamash | I wouldn't |
| 01:50.19 | Corrodias | would WoW get $3000+ or just the retail price? ;) |
| 01:50.31 | Xinhuan | and then you would rank games by the rating price/retail price? |
| 01:50.32 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:50.41 | Corrodias | GTA4: $5. Prototype: $75 |
| 01:50.50 | Jamash | Corrodias: games with a monthly payment could be rated in $/mo |
| 01:51.05 | mckenziemc | Fisker's Mom: Priceless |
| 01:51.14 | Jamash | Xinhuan: Which means when a game is on sale its rating goes up |
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| 01:52.16 | Jamash | OTOH, if angry birds for android is free with ads, does that make its rating infinite? ;) |
| 01:52.32 | Corrodias | you divide by zero and your review crashes |
| 01:52.50 | Jamash | lua> "angry birds" / 0 |
| 01:52.51 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value |
| 01:52.57 | foxlit | fs |
| 01:53.03 | Jamash | fs? |
| 01:53.05 | Jamash | ~wtf fs |
| 01:53.10 | foxlit | use a div instruction that doesn't throw an exception? |
| 01:53.12 | Jamash | -_- |
| 01:53.56 | Jamash | lua> tonumber("angry birds") / 0 |
| 01:53.57 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 01:54.12 | Jamash | man, lua is useless |
| 01:54.36 | foxlit | lua> getmetatable("").__tonumber = function() return 0; end print("foo" / 1); |
| 01:54.36 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value |
| 01:54.57 | Jamash | wah wah wah wahhhhhh |
| 01:55.12 | foxlit | meh! |
| 01:55.25 | foxlit | lua> getmetatable("").__div = function() return 42; end print("foo" / 1); |
| 01:55.26 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value |
| 01:55.46 | foxlit | Okay, that won't work :( |
| 01:55.55 | Jamash | you're hitting a type exception before the metamethod gets evaluated |
| 01:57.40 | foxlit | lua> t = setmetatable({},{__div=function() return 42; end}) return t/2; |
| 01:57.41 | lua_bot | foxlit: 42 |
| 01:58.14 | Jamash | I hear in Fortran it used to be possible to assign to constants |
| 01:59.51 | foxlit | lua> debug.setmetatable("", {__div=function() return 42 end}); print(""/42); |
| 01:59.52 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'debug' (a nil value) |
| 02:00.21 | foxlit | but that'd work if lua_bot had debug. |
| 02:02.01 | foxlit | Even my getmetatable example should work |
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| 02:05.23 | Kraps | http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6459941/1 |
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| 02:09.30 | Wobin | Kraps: sounds more like a failure to separate mechanics by Bioware |
| 02:09.49 | Corrodias | Kraps: that's just beautiful |
| 02:09.53 | Corrodias | EA strikes again |
| 02:11.29 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:11.44 | Corrodias | holds up "stupid" in one hand. He holds up "EA" in the other. Hmmmm. |
| 02:11.55 | Corrodias | it weighs the same as a duck! |
| 02:12.09 | Wobin | if they want to really ban him for saying bad things, lock his account, refund his money and delete the it. |
| 02:12.34 | Wobin | but don't take his money and then prevent him from playing a game that has no online interaction |
| 02:12.56 | Corrodias | how about we just don't buy their games? ^_^ |
| 02:12.56 | Wobin | I haven't bought it =) |
| 02:13.31 | Corrodias | or ... purchase a limited licence to access said games until such time as we disagree with them or they get tired of us |
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| 02:14.00 | Xinhuan | how about, avoid posting on their forums |
| 02:15.08 | Corrodias | oh, absolutely. |
| 02:15.26 | Xinhuan | a shame someone had to be made an example |
| 02:15.34 | Corrodias | i'd recommend that you not have anything to do with them at all. |
| 02:16.50 | Corrodias | hehe, imagine Microsoft doing that for anyone who insults Windows |
| 02:17.07 | Corrodias | "Oh, that is IT, no more Windows for you." |
| 02:17.49 | Xinhuan | the fact that you can get locked out of your game is lame |
| 02:17.59 | Xinhuan | and poor reputation |
| 02:18.24 | Corrodias | oh my, yes. it smells of shady legality, but they might pull it off, even if challenged. |
| 02:18.39 | Corrodias | it is most certainly "evil" inasmuch as a company can be. |
| 02:21.39 | xyphoid | 'Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.' |
| 02:21.40 | xyphoid | wow |
| 02:22.32 | Xinhuan | awesome right |
| 02:24.01 | Arrowmaster | lawsuit waiting to happen |
| 02:24.28 | Arrowmaster | i hope it does so it can bring to light the entire own vs license to use issue |
| 02:25.02 | Xinhuan | i don't think the common person has the fees to bring a lawsuit |
| 02:25.36 | Corrodias | class actions are common enough |
| 02:26.52 | Arrowmaster | class action are awful |
| 02:30.49 | Kraps | Renews: 8/3/2011 |
| 02:30.51 | Kraps | derp |
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| 02:41.47 | Arrowmaster | oh that only effects the pc version of the game right? |
| 02:48.06 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 02:48.24 | Arrowmaster | the tron legacy intro music really rocks my subwoofer |
| 02:51.54 | airtonix | Jamash: umadbro |
| 02:58.09 | Kraps | so Aaron Eckhart is on the daily show talking about Battle:LA and stewart keeps asking whether it'll be made into a video game, and Eckhart apparently has no idea what a video game is "it'll be an app, its on twitter" etc |
| 03:06.34 | airtonix | that is typical |
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| 03:24.28 | SqueeG | why would this result in null? |
| 03:24.28 | SqueeG | local color = FACTION_BAR_COLORS[button.standing]; |
| 03:24.41 | Corrodias | maybe FACTION_BAR_COLORS[button.standing] is null. |
| 03:24.45 | Corrodias | lololol |
| 03:24.52 | SqueeG | >.O |
| 03:25.14 | SqueeG | ./facepalm |
| 03:25.26 | SqueeG | totally overlooked the .standing |
| 03:25.33 | SqueeG | thank you for pointing out my idiocy |
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| 03:39.42 | airtonix | i am responsible for that |
| 03:42.19 | Kraps | new avatar http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2228173011?page=2#24 |
| 03:44.25 | mckenziemc | are you responsible Kraps |
| 03:45.17 | Kraps | no |
| 03:53.27 | mckenziemc | don't lie |
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| 04:05.49 | avlox | ok, random random question.. wow AddOn Studio is dead in the water to me.. same as WoWUIDesigner... whats a good WORKING alternative for frame.xml? (or addon development in general) |
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| 04:09.52 | mckenziemc | wow.exe |
| 04:17.00 | airtonix | ^ |
| 04:17.07 | airtonix | notepad.exe |
| 04:17.18 | airtonix | oh and leafpad.exe |
| 04:20.05 | mikma | haste + cairenn : http://i.imgur.com/4Q0Y4.jpg |
| 04:20.19 | Cairenn | hehehe, yeah, saw that yesterday :) |
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| 04:41.36 | Arrowmaster | so ive been watching tron legacy in a completely non linear order skipping around mainly just for the music |
| 04:41.58 | BlackFootJones | just go see daft punk |
| 04:42.01 | airtonix | grats? |
| 04:42.06 | Arrowmaster | i want to |
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| 04:42.28 | nicoli_s | ditto that |
| 04:42.35 | Arrowmaster | but even the parts that dont seem like they are from daft punk are great |
| 04:43.31 | Arrowmaster | one review said the movie was edited to match the music score instead of the music score being written to match the movie and thats part of why its so epic |
| 04:44.52 | Arrowmaster | if thats true, it fucking worked |
| 04:45.35 | airtonix | i think you're biased |
| 04:52.20 | airtonix | Adys: do you use synergy? |
| 04:52.43 | Adys | um, i used it a few years ago |
| 04:52.46 | Adys | bugged like hell iirc |
| 04:53.36 | airtonix | well, chrome freezes randomly when i copy stuff on the synergyserver machine and paste it on the chrome instance running on the synergyclient |
| 04:54.07 | airtonix | resize window and page still operates, but none of the tabs will accept mouse clicks or keyboard input |
| 04:55.03 | airtonix | i think it's a problem with synergy, since it has pretty awesome ability to turn copied stuff into japanse characters |
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| 05:11.24 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/7564/ |
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| 05:19.54 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: i watched tron earlier today too |
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| 06:07.38 | karl_w_w | kidding me |
| 06:07.45 | karl_w_w | arcane damage has been buffed again |
| 06:07.54 | karl_w_w | by 13% |
| 06:11.24 | airtonix | ninja |
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| 06:20.01 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB2BKdgSW4U |
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| 06:22.04 | Xinhuan | arcane isn't exactly competitive atm |
| 06:22.23 | Xinhuan | the main issues with it are the lack of mobility, and its extremely weak AoE |
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| 06:22.51 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 06:22.59 | karl_w_w | its issues are not direct damage |
| 06:23.12 | karl_w_w | it's already competitive there |
| 06:23.12 | Xinhuan | arcane spec has only 1 spell that lets you cast on the move - Arcane barrage (and a near useless arcane explosion) |
| 06:23.24 | Xinhuan | unlike fire, which only has one spell that doesn't allow you to cast on the move (fireball) |
| 06:23.33 | Xinhuan | every other fire spell is instant-cast |
| 06:23.45 | Xinhuan | or castable on move (scorch) |
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| 07:14.18 | Arrowmaster | kd3: im only 5 minutes into puella 10 and somebodys already dead |
| 07:15.56 | TC-Away | Arrowmaster: then maybe you should kill puella in 4 min |
| 07:16.21 | Arrowmaster | you have no idea what im referring to |
| 07:16.33 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 07:17.13 | Thunder_Child | aaaaand, now i do |
| 07:17.23 | Thunder_Child | yay for the wonders of google |
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| 07:20.35 | airtonix | is it though ? |
| 07:22.32 | Thunder_Child | yes |
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| 07:23.44 | Arrowmaster | i lost count of the deaths this episode already |
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| 07:41.47 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 07:42.21 | mckenziemc1 | what makes you think we're people? |
| 07:42.40 | angayelle | hai botz |
| 07:43.22 | mckenziemc1 | maybe i'm a crustacean :O |
| 07:43.25 | Jamash | speaking of japan, 8.8 or 8.9 earthquake off the coast near sendai |
| 07:43.40 | angayelle | hai zoidberg |
| 07:44.15 | angayelle | saw that, it was said 7.9 tho |
| 07:44.30 | angayelle | tsunami inc |
| 07:44.37 | Jamash | tsunami's been |
| 07:44.44 | Jamash | washed away houses in some places |
| 07:44.57 | angayelle | already ? |
| 07:45.39 | zenzio | so my bus card expired this Wednesday, and since it's been thawing a lot lately it seemed like the perfect time to start biking to work again. Naturally the last two nights it's been cold enough to freeze agian, so it's slick ice everywhere :-| |
| 07:45.57 | angayelle | i hope it won't flood the basement shop where i used to find my hentai in akihabara |
| 07:46.14 | airtonix | it's ok |
| 07:46.22 | airtonix | you're on the internet |
| 07:46.24 | Jamash | I hope it doesn't awaken gojira |
| 07:48.16 | angayelle | the internet will never match the thrill of finding a limited edition 16 pages fan made porn version of naruto |
| 07:48.33 | airtonix | mold makes you horny? |
| 07:49.42 | angayelle | well naruto's not the best example but i have some king of fighter ones that are worth the look |
| 07:50.44 | angayelle | or a different subject i'm having an hard time with tracking Flamestrike application, precisely with talented Flamestrike which add Flamestrike to blastwave use |
| 07:51.56 | angayelle | there is 2 rank, rand 2 is 100% chance application of FS with BW, no problem with that i track BW, the rank 1 is 50% chance which is way trickier since there is no event to show that FS procced |
| 07:53.15 | Xinhuan | then you can't |
| 07:53.18 | Xinhuan | simple as that |
| 07:53.26 | angayelle | that i was afraid of |
| 07:53.32 | airtonix | obligatory qqmoar |
| 07:53.40 | Xinhuan | well, technically |
| 07:53.59 | Xinhuan | if the combat log shows blastwave and flamestrike within 1 GCD of each other, you can assume its a proc |
| 07:54.15 | angayelle | the combatlog don't show FS at all |
| 07:54.30 | angayelle | even with rank 2 |
| 07:54.39 | Xinhuan | FS does some initial damage yes? |
| 07:54.55 | Xinhuan | which should occur at the same time as blast wave |
| 07:55.24 | Xinhuan | or nearly at the same time |
| 07:55.29 | Xinhuan | you might need some testing |
| 07:55.31 | angayelle | it does indeed, good catch, wouldn't work in the case of a BW put somewhere there is nothing but that would be dumb |
| 07:55.52 | angayelle | and we don't do dumb thing, arent we ? |
| 07:55.57 | Xinhuan | are you the guy doing CBH? |
| 07:56.02 | angayelle | aye |
| 07:56.24 | Xinhuan | i couldn't get the LB tracker to work, so i disabled it (like 2 weeks ago) lol |
| 07:56.32 | angayelle | really ? |
| 07:56.41 | angayelle | using latest version ? |
| 07:56.50 | Xinhuan | didn't turn it on since then heh |
| 07:57.10 | Xinhuan | do you, by any chance |
| 07:57.20 | Xinhuan | capable of accessing PTR servers? |
| 07:57.47 | angayelle | i am, downloading patch atm |
| 07:57.54 | Xinhuan | most of us aren't actually able to, due to being in closed beta -.- |
| 07:58.06 | Jamash | huh? |
| 07:58.14 | Jamash | I was in closed beta and I can access the PTR fine |
| 07:58.21 | Xinhuan | you must be EU then |
| 07:58.25 | Xinhuan | nobody on US side can |
| 07:58.48 | Xinhuan | accounts are flagged in such a way the realm selection lists shows no realms |
| 07:58.49 | angayelle | last version date from 2/24/2011, have a try, use the reset button just in case |
| 07:59.11 | Fisker | oh wat |
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| 07:59.32 | airtonix | :< |
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| 08:00.03 | Fisker | i was dreaming about japan being hit by a tsunami not that long ago :O |
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| 08:00.42 | angayelle | i had an eartquake when i was there 2 years ago, minor one 3.2 or so, still freaky |
| 08:00.55 | Xinhuan | if you happen to go on PTR, perhaps you can help me check if Omen (latest alpha) works on it (with invis and/or threat midsirect spells), i did some commits that i couldn't actually test |
| 08:01.06 | Xinhuan | mirror image |
| 08:01.43 | Iriel | whoa http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/03/10/international/i222815S00.DTL&tsp=1 |
| 08:03.23 | angayelle | will do |
| 08:03.46 | Cairenn | yeowch! |
| 08:13.50 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:14.02 | Cairenn | hi Fisker |
| 08:16.37 | Xyphoid | man a workmate of mine is off to japan shortly, at least partially to get away from quake damage here |
| 08:17.29 | Xyphoid | 2011 sucks |
| 08:17.49 | angayelle | wait for 2012, THAT will suck even more |
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| 08:21.42 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 08:22.03 | Fisker | nah angayelle |
| 08:22.46 | angayelle | i already built an house on top of a moutain, with a rack full of rifles |
| 08:22.58 | angayelle | and a goat |
| 08:23.28 | Xinhuan | is this minecraft we're talking about? |
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| 08:23.44 | Fisker | no rifles in minecraft Xinhuan |
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| 08:23.50 | Fisker | unless you mod it in |
| 08:23.51 | Fisker | hey kd3|netbook |
| 08:24.17 | kd3|netbook | yuck. why did I check the news before I went to bed? now I'm not going to sleep tonight |
| 08:24.31 | kd3|netbook | is still trying to get a hold of a few of his friends in japan |
| 08:24.32 | Fisker | i'm beginning to hate how Valve is whoring TF2 items into other games :P |
| 08:24.56 | angayelle | i'm not at all understanding the hype into minecraft, maybe i tried not hard enough |
| 08:25.20 | Fisker | Yathzee explained it well |
| 08:25.43 | Fisker | If you could just build golden cocks the game would be no fun |
| 08:26.04 | Fisker | but since it actually takes effort to build golden cocks it's that sense of doing all that hard work for the result |
| 08:28.15 | kd3|netbook | can't even begin to imagine a 10 meter wave hitting kilometers inland |
| 08:28.18 | kd3|netbook | wtf wtf |
| 08:29.13 | Cairenn | kd3|netbook: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/11/japan.quake/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 |
| 08:29.20 | Cairenn | watch the video, and the next one |
| 08:29.26 | kd3|netbook | I'm watching japanese feeds |
| 08:29.42 | Cairenn | ah |
| 08:29.59 | angayelle | a 10m wave can't go inland, it crash and stops at some point |
| 08:30.08 | angayelle | still impressive tho |
| 08:30.21 | zenzio | because all shores are more than 10 meters high? |
| 08:31.05 | angayelle | not all but alot of coasts in japan are pretty high |
| 08:31.06 | airtonix | you are right sir |
| 08:31.29 | Xyphoid | okay that is jawdropping footage |
| 08:31.47 | airtonix | i refuse |
| 08:33.39 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMW_jraSjq8 |
| 08:34.57 | karl_w_w | going to japan to get away from earthquake problems is just asking for trouble |
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| 08:36.00 | karl_w_w | tell your mate it's his fault Xyphoid, he jinxed it :P |
| 08:38.26 | Fisker | i don't feel so well airtonix |
| 08:38.44 | airtonix | Fisker: i lol'd : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-d5a3r94 |
| 08:39.39 | Fisker | old airtonix |
| 08:41.01 | karl_w_w | ...was better than new airtonix |
| 08:41.37 | airtonix | Fisker: show me something awesome |
| 08:42.36 | Fisker | "Hackers figure out MS Point card algorithm and steal $1.2 million" <-lol'd |
| 08:42.54 | Fisker | because changing a number in an url = figuring out MS point algorithm |
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| 08:48.22 | Arrowmaster | also MS said it wasnt anywhere close to 1.2mil |
| 08:48.42 | Arrowmaster | and everybody that did it is getting the points removed and their accounts actioned |
| 08:48.58 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 08:49.08 | Fisker | i think they figured they couldn't figure out who exploited it |
| 08:49.09 | Fisker | i lol'd |
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| 08:49.35 | Arrowmaster | thats what server logs are for |
| 08:49.49 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm adding some of the points to your account |
| 08:49.52 | Arrowmaster | just figure out which of the people that redeemed those codes tried more than one |
| 08:50.12 | Arrowmaster | anybody redeeming a legit one would have no reason to attempt multiple times |
| 08:51.25 | Fisker | i want my phone airtonix |
| 08:51.37 | airtonix | oh yeah, about that |
| 08:51.45 | airtonix | it was in my top pocket |
| 08:51.48 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 08:51.55 | airtonix | and i was leaning over the toilet |
| 08:51.58 | airtonix | and |
| 08:52.04 | airtonix | :( |
| 08:52.30 | airtonix | but the curry was good |
| 08:52.44 | Fisker | ha |
| 08:52.46 | Fisker | haha |
| 08:55.58 | Fisker | lulz |
| 08:56.09 | Fisker | so iOS have DEP but Mac OS X doesn't |
| 08:56.52 | Fisker | i fart u airtonix |
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| 09:01.17 | Fisker | mitch0 |
| 09:01.20 | airtonix | no |
| 09:01.21 | Fisker | how do you stop me? |
| 09:03.25 | Fisker | a |
| 09:03.25 | Fisker | b |
| 09:04.11 | airtonix | like that |
| 09:05.35 | Fisker | i have not been stopped |
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| 09:10.01 | Fisker | slaps brykrys around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:10.33 | mitch0 | fisker: how many phones have you bricked today? |
| 09:15.44 | Fisker | zero |
| 09:15.48 | Fisker | why? |
| 09:18.17 | airtonix | because he bricked his iphone and wants someone to cry with |
| 09:20.28 | mitch0 | airtonix: imma poor, no iPhone here |
| 09:21.00 | airtonix | i'll send you a blanket, flint and tinder |
| 09:22.38 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 09:22.43 | Fisker | he'll just kill himself airtonix |
| 09:23.33 | airtonix | are you some kind of aristocrat |
| 09:23.38 | airtonix | i will kill you |
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| 09:27.21 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 09:27.24 | Fisker | hey gna Random |
| 09:27.26 | Fisker | wtf? |
| 09:27.28 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 09:39.14 | Fisker | mitch0 |
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| 10:17.44 | mitch0 | no |
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| 11:16.56 | mitch0 | is the weakauras dev around by any chance? |
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| 11:19.07 | Ycarene | I think I'm pretty much done with pulseaudio. |
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| 11:19.21 | mitch0 | welcome to 2005 :P |
| 11:19.32 | mitch0 | (I might be off by a year or two) |
| 11:19.38 | Ycarene | Working on moving to oss v4 |
| 11:19.58 | mitch0 | just install freebsd and enjoy working sound out-of-the-box ;) |
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| 11:22.05 | Ycarene | I wonder if there's a push to mainline the new oss into the kernel. |
| 11:22.10 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 11:22.21 | Fisker | Charlie Sheen thinks he's the cooking equilivant of the old spice commercials |
| 11:23.08 | Ycarene | Fisker - I wonder if his alcoholism was his form of self medicating his descent into insanity. |
| 11:23.45 | Fisker | idk |
| 11:24.14 | mitch0 | how usable is UNIT_HEALTH to monitor party member's health status? I sorta remember another event that fires more often or somesuch |
| 11:24.31 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
| 11:24.33 | Fisker | are you Parnic? |
| 11:32.03 | haste | mitch0: there's UNIT_HEALTH_FREQUENT as well, but I think it still has some odditie |
| 11:32.33 | haste | mitch0: like it depends on client visability and such (and kinda overlap with UH, but not entirely) |
| 11:33.09 | haste | mitch0: you have to using OnUpdate polling if you really want up to date health values |
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| 11:42.57 | Maldivia | lunch time anyone: http://www.bbqaddicts.com/blog/recipes/bacon-explosion/ |
| 11:54.09 | olafski | that looks lovely |
| 11:54.11 | olafski | bookmarked :) |
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| 11:57.15 | karl_w_w | looks lovely yes |
| 11:57.26 | karl_w_w | also looks like an instant heart attack |
| 11:57.51 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 11:57.54 | Fisker | i got my new phone |
| 11:58.44 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 11:58.46 | haste | which? |
| 11:59.16 | Fisker | LG Optimus 2x |
| 12:00.14 | olafski | karl_w_w: well yes.. all things in moderation right? |
| 12:00.26 | olafski | you could make one of these at a bbq party and cut it up in 10-20 pieces :) |
| 12:00.57 | olafski | they do actually advise to cut it in 1/4 - 1/2 inch slices |
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| 12:20.55 | karl_w_w | moderation schmoderation |
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| 12:48.21 | Oxq1 | hi there =) |
| 12:50.06 | Oxq1 | anyone got a reading for me on how to extract informations on items given as a console parameter into my code? ( like /mycmd [Heartstone]) |
| 12:55.33 | Oxq1 | http://nopaste.info/c4983870f1.html <- my code regarding this, obviously wont work ^ |
| 12:59.29 | Oxq1 | so noone's willing to help? :( |
| 13:00.42 | airtonix | <Instant Service has ben disabled> |
| 13:01.14 | Cairenn | Oxq1: waiting all of 4 minutes before assuming no one is willing to assist? |
| 13:02.05 | Cairenn | perhaps you might consider that those on the American side of the world are mostly still all asleep, or just waking up .. and those on the European/Asian side of the world are all at work? |
| 13:02.20 | airtonix | i'm floating around the pacific |
| 13:03.07 | Cairenn | airtonix: it was a generalized statement :p |
| 13:03.29 | airtonix | i might actually be floating soon |
| 13:03.36 | Cairenn | hope not! |
| 13:03.49 | airtonix | well when i say soon |
| 13:04.26 | Cairenn | I'm presuming you're talking about possible tsunami action :p |
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| 13:05.05 | airtonix | yes, but i think the eastern seaboard is greater danger than our southern cove |
| 13:05.19 | Cairenn | scary is hearing this: |
| 13:05.30 | Cairenn | (7:09:35 AM) Wint: Um holy shit |
| 13:05.30 | Cairenn | (7:09:58 AM) Wint: Japan has declared a state of emergency at its nuclear power plants after the earthquake |
| 13:05.30 | Cairenn | (7:11:31 AM) Wint: They are having troubles cooling the reactors after shutting them down apparently |
| 13:05.55 | airtonix | this is how the end starts |
| 13:06.01 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 13:06.35 | Cairenn | smoogles bluspacecow |
| 13:06.43 | bluspacecow | HAI2U |
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| 13:09.50 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap bluspacecow |
| 13:09.50 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around a bit with Fisker. |
| 13:11.20 | Fisker | hey you bluspacecow |
| 13:11.42 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 13:11.42 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 13:12.53 | Fisker | btw Cairenn |
| 13:13.04 | Fisker | danish news is reporting that it was just a fire and they fixed it forever |
| 13:13.13 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 13:13.50 | airtonix | australian news reckons japan is bankrupt beyond repair now since all the piggy banks from primary school children got swept away |
| 13:13.59 | airtonix | man australian news firms are jerks |
| 13:13.59 | Fisker | :O |
| 13:14.08 | Fisker | tell me about it airtonix |
| 13:14.22 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzT8HB26WXM <-i never laughed so hard |
| 13:14.36 | airtonix | did you ever? |
| 13:14.51 | Fisker | view it airtonix |
| 13:14.51 | Fisker | or die |
| 13:15.02 | airtonix | i linked it to you broseph |
| 13:15.23 | Fisker | oh u |
| 13:15.27 | Fisker | but it's funny |
| 13:16.28 | airtonix | this might make you laugh too |
| 13:17.03 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zSkhmkaOQ4 |
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| 13:18.24 | bluspacecow | hai2u too mckeziemc |
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| 13:18.40 | mckenziemc | who's mckeziemc? |
| 13:20.06 | mitch0 | haste: thanks |
| 13:20.39 | mitch0 | haste: basically, I'd need it for an "under 50% health" sort of alert. would UHF (or UH) be enough for that? |
| 13:20.46 | airtonix | mckenziemc: don't hold it against him, he's using an ipad |
| 13:21.15 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 13:21.37 | airtonix | bluspacecow: i am disapoint |
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| 13:33.22 | Axcy | Hello, I was wondering if anyone could point me towards a addon or some guide that can help me |
| 13:33.38 | Axcy | Specifically I'm trying to get the addon to notify me once there's someone in a zone I've specified |
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| 13:34.01 | Axcy | It checkes every 2 minutes or so if the zone is empty or not, and if it isn't it notifies me by playing a sound |
| 13:34.20 | Axcy | I've got the sound part figured.. more about checking a specified zone every X minutes |
| 13:35.55 | foxlit | How would you do it, if you didn't have an addon? |
| 13:36.45 | Axcy | Open up the social tab - go to "Who" - Type in my zone and press "Refresh" |
| 13:36.59 | Axcy | It's the same you do when u look for all lvl 80 mages in Dalaran |
| 13:37.29 | Axcy | I can use "GetWhoInfo" from the API |
| 13:38.39 | Axcy | Or I think I can :) |
| 13:39.47 | foxlit | It's SendWho("query") to send a query |
| 13:40.07 | foxlit | It'll then fire some event to let you know when you can use GetWhoInfo to retrieve your results |
| 13:40.53 | foxlit | You'd have to filter the chat output/social pane if you didn't want those things to show. |
| 13:41.43 | Axcy | Righty.. however the thing I don't have any clue about is actually making this addon check the specified zone each X minutes |
| 13:41.54 | Axcy | Without me having to press anything |
| 13:43.22 | airtonix | aha! |
| 13:43.33 | airtonix | time for you to read the lua website |
| 13:43.36 | airtonix | ~pil |
| 13:43.36 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 13:44.00 | airtonix | (note: don't copy me) |
| 13:44.23 | mckenziemc | good job pointing him in the wrong direction : / |
| 13:44.29 | mckenziemc | AceTimer is what you want |
| 13:44.35 | mckenziemc | for the intervals |
| 13:45.00 | mckenziemc | you also might look into WhoLib for the who requests, though it isn't necessary |
| 13:45.47 | Axcy | ./script SendWho('z-"The Steam pools"'); - This does exactly what I want - So that's covered :) - I'll take a look at acetimer |
| 13:46.22 | Axcy | Quite frankly I don't know if this'll work like I want.. so don't want to spend too much time making something which turns out to be a bust :) |
| 13:46.58 | foxlit | I'm not sure your methodology is sound, but I can't tell that without knowing why you'd want to do what you want to do |
| 13:47.16 | Axcy | It's a trade secret! You wont get my secrets! Nevaahhhh! |
| 13:47.26 | foxlit | If you check every X minutes, people can sneak into the zone without you noting. |
| 13:47.36 | foxlit | As long as they leave before your next ping. |
| 13:48.04 | Axcy | Jokes aside, actually I want to moniter The steam pools at X interval. The zone is barran unless you use the camel figurines in Uldum and get a chance at the mount there in the phased area |
| 13:48.35 | Axcy | In theory, despite only the player teleported there is phased and has the buff, he could help me get mine by simply passing on the loot |
| 13:48.40 | foxlit | I fly over that zone regularly on some arch paths. |
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| 13:49.27 | Axcy | Yeah.. well that's the little problem.. but worth a shot :) |
| 13:49.55 | Axcy | If you fly over I'll just send you a whisper - If you're not there for the mount well too bad |
| 13:50.12 | foxlit | ew, unsolicited whispers :) |
| 13:50.30 | Axcy | Not like I'm selling you gold.. or actually I'm giving you gold but hey ^^ |
| 13:50.43 | foxlit | "You need to format the disk in drive A: before you can use it" |
| 13:51.25 | foxlit | I thought I killed it with fire. And then windows reinstalled the phantom floppy drive :( |
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| 13:57.37 | Axcy | What do u guys think.. 1 minute a good time to check? Like once pr. minute? |
| 13:57.57 | Kalroth | foxlit: hahah |
| 14:00.57 | airtonix | foxlit: don't you love the quality assurance guidlines used by windows developers |
| 14:01.10 | airtonix | in case of X : meh |
| 14:01.22 | airtonix | in case of B : ignore it |
| 14:01.48 | airtonix | sticking to consistant appearance : NOWAI PINK R AWESUM |
| 14:01.48 | Axcy | Can anyone refer me to a VERY simple wow addon? |
| 14:02.04 | airtonix | Axcy: most of tekkubs stuff |
| 14:02.22 | airtonix | https://github.com/tekkub |
| 14:02.30 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19015-ClearerCast.html |
| 14:04.52 | foxlit | Though perhaps that's a cruel joke |
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| 14:13.50 | karl_w_w | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12709856 |
| 14:15.40 | karl_w_w | Axcy: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mailtrack.aspx is another painfully simple addon if you're looking for examples |
| 14:16.28 | kd3|phone | Damn it, school. Stop sending crap emails right now. Don't care about training seminars! |
| 14:17.30 | Cairenn | you okay kd3|phone? you sound stressed |
| 14:21.32 | kd3|phone | Still to hear from 2. Heard from everyone else. |
| 14:21.50 | Cairenn | hugs kd3|phone |
| 14:26.14 | Axcy | ClearCast was perfect |
| 14:26.32 | Axcy | But isn't there a way to somehow process the output by the SendWho? |
| 14:27.01 | Axcy | Seems it always returns nil, and the message regarding the who is posted straight in the chatbox - Making it a bit difficult to do anything with the data |
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| 14:34.31 | Ackis | apparently I have an @facebook e-mail now |
| 14:39.07 | haste | mitch0: UH alone should really be enough |
| 14:39.08 | mckenziemc | Axcy: SendWho doesn't give any returns because it requires a message being sent to the server and another being returned |
| 14:39.19 | haste | mitch0: you could poll if you really need super up to date info :P |
| 14:39.22 | mckenziemc | there's an event that indicates a result came back |
| 14:40.37 | mitch0 | haste: ok, thanks |
| 14:41.51 | Axcy | mckenziemc: Ah yes, the WHO_LIST_UPDATE |
| 14:45.21 | Kraps | anyone here at pax east? |
| 14:46.11 | Ackis | can I see a graph of health for when someone dies in WoL? |
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| 14:48.05 | karl_w_w | no |
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| 14:53.44 | karl_w_w | !api GetTrackingInfo |
| 14:53.45 | lua_bot | GetTrackingInfo: Returns information about a given tracking option (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetTrackingInfo) |
| 14:54.34 | Kraps | wat http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/03/10/2011-03-10_biebermania_police_threaten_to_arrest_pop_sensation_after_fans_go_into_frenzy_ou.html |
| 14:55.03 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: you are going to have compatibility problems if you try to do it that way, you should use wholib |
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| 14:55.55 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/wholib/ |
| 14:57.00 | sylvanaar_work | if you directly use the who api you will be incompatible with any of these addons http://www.wowace.com/addons/wholib/reverse-relationships/ |
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| 15:01.40 | Axcy | That's certainly a few - Thx sylvanaar_work |
| 15:02.44 | sylvanaar_work | i hate the who api - wholib is a necessary evil |
| 15:02.51 | karl_w_w | why does wow freeze randomly |
| 15:03.21 | karl_w_w | its always happened to me, it'll just crash |
| 15:03.34 | karl_w_w | and task manager will say its using 50% cpu |
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| 15:11.49 | Axcy | I'm guessing I have to download the wholib from some place first? |
| 15:13.01 | Axcy | Nvm that question |
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| 15:17.44 | avlox | what widget would be best for displaying a table of character and gold information? 10 chars, their gold, date last checked, as well as colors for gold, copper, silver. |
| 15:20.51 | karl_w_w | if you initialize a local variable inside a while loop, is it only in scope inside the while loop? |
| 15:22.25 | Axcy | karl_w_w: Yes |
| 15:23.52 | karl_w_w | ta |
| 15:35.24 | Mikk | avlox: qtip |
| 15:35.41 | Mikk | avlox: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libqtip-1-0/ |
| 15:36.18 | avlox | not in a tooltip.. but in an actual frame |
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| 15:47.17 | Torhal|work | Yu don't have to use it _as_ a tooltip. |
| 15:47.27 | Torhal|work | s/Yu/You |
| 15:47.31 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work: How do I traverse the returned result? - I've gotten to the sendwho query, but a bit puzzled as to the result |
| 15:48.20 | sylvanaar_work | the result is a table with all the returns from sendwho |
| 15:48.38 | sylvanaar_work | use /dump on the value to see it |
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| 15:51.18 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:53.07 | Kraps | "A male lead's not-dead wife will take up valuable time that could otherwise be used for explosions." |
| 15:57.13 | Axcy | sylvanaar: Mind taking a peak? I'm no expect, and the "dirty" direct way works.. however would be nice to have this compatible with prat http://pastebin.com/SNf6Vmc5 |
| 15:57.32 | Axcy | The result is always nil, despite that I'm in the zone myself |
| 15:58.12 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work that is |
| 16:01.25 | Kraps | "Discover why Time Travel into the future is unavoidable in the Einsteinian world of Relativity." |
| 16:01.26 | Kraps | hmmm |
| 16:01.53 | mckenziemc | Axcy: you have to register a callback in wholib |
| 16:02.04 | mckenziemc | the results aren't available immediately |
| 16:02.40 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: you might want to install Broker_WhoLib to see what wholib is doing. |
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| 16:03.03 | mckenziemc | LibWho:RegisterCallback('WHOLIB_QUERY_RESULT', yourParseFunction) |
| 16:03.16 | mckenziemc | wholib in your case |
| 16:03.26 | Dagmar | Looks like I won't be buying any more Bioware titles |
| 16:03.57 | sylvanaar_work | mckenziemc: that will let you see every who result |
| 16:04.21 | sylvanaar_work | if you go that route you need to compare the result with your query to make sure they are the same |
| 16:04.40 | Dagmar | They need to get over the idea that it's okay for them to sell people a game with the intention of simply letting it stop working when they decide |
| 16:04.43 | mckenziemc | true, i just glanced at the addon i had that used it |
| 16:05.17 | mckenziemc | point being it looks like he's expecting to get an immediate result |
| 16:05.42 | Axcy | But I define the callback in the query itself |
| 16:05.55 | Axcy | From what I understood you can do that or register the callback ahead of time |
| 16:05.58 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: your code looks ok to me |
| 16:06.44 | mckenziemc | oh woops, i misread |
| 16:07.01 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: why are you running the who in a timer |
| 16:07.22 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work: I want to check the zone every 1 minute |
| 16:07.31 | Axcy | To see if anyone's there |
| 16:07.35 | sylvanaar_work | ah |
| 16:08.41 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work: Just got broker lib - As I can see I have 1 result |
| 16:08.50 | mckenziemc | "Deliver Digsong's Fish and Tips to Captain Glovaal at Darkbreak Cove" |
| 16:09.05 | Axcy | But what the bippp am I doing wrong in my code to get it then.. hrmfp |
| 16:09.27 | Kraps | http://www.hulu.com/watch/215728/the-universe-time-travel?c=News-and-Information#s-p1-so-i0 |
| 16:10.07 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: your callback |
| 16:10.46 | sylvanaar_work | do you have MyAddon.GetWhoResults = GetWhoResults? |
| 16:11.09 | sylvanaar_work | because your callback function isnt self.GetWhoResults |
| 16:11.20 | sylvanaar_work | its just GetWhoResults |
| 16:12.45 | Axcy | Bah.. >< |
| 16:13.16 | sylvanaar_work | you should probably just declare it as function MyAddon.GetWhoResults(results) |
| 16:13.33 | Kalroth | nearly worst variable ever! |
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| 16:17.45 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work: Righto, when calling GetWhoResults(results) the string sent is the searchstring, not the result? |
| 16:18.27 | Axcy | And sorry for taking all this time, I'm really not a expert in this |
| 16:18.31 | Mikk | Axcy: another way is to /chatwho General |
| 16:18.44 | Mikk | which won't find people that have /leave General but will mostly work |
| 16:19.27 | Axcy | Would require me to be in the same zone if I'm not mistaken Mikk? |
| 16:19.32 | Mikk | yes |
| 16:19.37 | Mikk | i thought that was the idea - my bad |
| 16:19.40 | Axcy | But however, right now I'm mostly curious.. the result should be a table |
| 16:19.49 | Axcy | Yet it's the search string |
| 16:20.04 | sylvanaar_work | Axcy: it returns query, results |
| 16:20.15 | sylvanaar_work | you need a second parameter |
| 16:20.26 | Mikk | local myQuery, myResults = GetWhoResults....... |
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| 16:23.34 | Nechckn | Another reason to like the creators of Timmy! http://thinkgeek.com/blog/2011/03/this-is-why-we-donate.html?cpg=fb |
| 16:25.29 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work; Yay! It works! Thanks for all your help! :) And thx Mikk |
| 16:25.35 | sylvanaar_work | sure |
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| 16:26.09 | Axcy | Nice, now to hope there's someone who finds the damn camel figurine, goes there and doesn't mind me getting me mount as well :p |
| 16:28.23 | Axcy | sylvanaar_work: Last question, what's the wholib GetNumWhoResults? |
| 16:29.39 | Axcy | Nvm, found it - Can use #complete |
| 16:29.47 | Axcy | Where complete is my table name |
| 16:29.56 | sylvanaar_work | kk |
| 16:35.35 | Lunessa | LULZ - http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft |
| 16:36.18 | Fisker | hey lua_bot |
| 16:36.20 | Fisker | damnit |
| 16:36.22 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
| 16:36.26 | Fisker | kind of old btw |
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| 16:36.38 | Lunessa | Still funny. |
| 16:37.04 | Fisker | oh |
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| 16:40.09 | Ackis | my priorities are all fucked up |
| 16:40.25 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 16:40.36 | Ackis | spent an hour figuring out why we were wiping/making a 3 page post about healing and then just started looking for news on the earthquake |
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| 16:45.37 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:47.55 | Jamash | I dunno, you can do something about wiping / healing but there's nothing you can do about the earthquake (unless you want to donate money to a relief organization) |
| 16:49.01 | Stanzilla | Ackis: where are you wiping? |
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| 16:49.09 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 16:49.13 | Fisker | i wiped your mom |
| 16:49.16 | Stanzilla | Fisker |
| 16:49.24 | Stanzilla | oh is she clean now? |
| 16:49.41 | Jamash | Fiskerzilla |
| 16:49.44 | Ackis | Stanzilla: chimareon heroic |
| 16:50.13 | Stanzilla | Ackis: oh, why? |
| 16:50.26 | Ackis | I think one of our holy priests doesn't know how to aoe heal |
| 16:50.41 | Jamash | snrk |
| 16:50.44 | Ackis | but it wasn't her group that was getting killed so I'm not sure |
| 16:50.48 | Ackis | I really don't know the cause |
| 16:51.12 | Jamash | I'm looking forward to spamming holy fire+smite next patch |
| 16:51.13 | Ackis | what was happening is during group up, 3 people would die, then it started chain reaction |
| 16:52.01 | Jamash | you will heal faces as disc in 4.1.0 |
| 16:52.21 | Ackis | what's been changed? |
| 16:52.44 | Ackis | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-r8o4nr7jfkeq252q/analyze/hd/source/?enc=bosses&boss=43296 btw |
| 16:52.48 | Stanzilla | holy fire effecting all the smite shit now |
| 16:52.55 | Stanzilla | and Ackis maybe the stood outside the group |
| 16:52.57 | Jamash | holy fire damage buff, holy fire triggers heals like smite, holy fire triggers evangelism |
| 16:52.58 | Stanzilla | *y |
| 16:53.07 | Ackis | 4 healing priests, 3 of them are holy, 1 disc |
| 16:53.12 | Stanzilla | it's only 6 or 8 yards radius |
| 16:53.18 | Jamash | and holy fire always hits with glyph |
| 16:53.32 | Ackis | I didn't think atonment healing was all that powerful |
| 16:54.30 | Stanzilla | Ackis: see that mage? he only had 300 hp when massacre hit :p |
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| 16:55.09 | Jamash | Ackis: It's not that it's particularly powerful, it's that it's almost mana-free healing |
| 16:55.14 | Ackis | it was the group up massacre's that were our main issue, yeah there were normal ones where people had brain farts but overall groupup killed us |
| 16:55.34 | Jamash | with a little bit of damage as a bonus |
| 16:55.43 | Stanzilla | and you are sure that slime hit all of you and that no one was standing outside the impact radius? |
| 16:55.58 | Ackis | yeah |
| 16:56.26 | Stanzilla | more prayer and cirle spam then :p |
| 16:56.30 | Stanzilla | *c |
| 16:56.35 | Ackis | some fights I was pushing 18.5k hps |
| 16:57.45 | Ackis | someone QQed that I was overhealing and i"m like I'm not having mana issues suck my ballz :D |
| 16:58.02 | Axcy | Just a question - But is it possible to target a player in a phased place? As in we're in the same area, but he's phased? |
| 16:58.04 | Jamash | Ackis isn't having mana issues, incoming nerf |
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| 16:58.35 | Stanzilla | Ackis: how are you overhealing when people still die? :p |
| 16:58.37 | Ackis | :( |
| 16:58.45 | Ackis | no one in my group would die Stanzilla |
| 16:59.10 | Ackis | afk meeting |
| 16:59.12 | Ackis | brb in an hour :( |
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| 17:11.02 | Kraps | 10 meg pipes |
| 17:14.58 | Fisker | what a b out them Kraps ? |
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| 17:15.07 | Fisker | wtf |
| 17:15.17 | Kraps | lol Fisker |
| 17:15.19 | Olison | What The Fisker |
| 17:17.56 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 17:18.00 | Fisker | iPhone got hacked at pwn2own |
| 17:18.03 | Fisker | Android didn't |
| 17:19.19 | Kraps | yay? |
| 17:19.55 | Fisker | yes Kraps |
| 17:20.03 | haste | androdi hasn't really been tested yet |
| 17:20.07 | haste | and there's still a day left |
| 17:20.41 | Fisker | haste |
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| 17:20.48 | Fisker | shut up shut up :( |
| 17:21.17 | Fisker | it's like broonix |
| 17:21.23 | Fisker | can't diss your bro haste |
| 17:21.28 | Fisker | (iOS doesn't count, it's unix) |
| 17:22.06 | Fisker | (That doesn't even make sense) |
| 17:23.14 | Fisker | anyway haste i won't accept it |
| 17:24.14 | Olison | not UNIX :< |
| 17:24.43 | Fisker | hey Olison |
| 17:24.55 | Fisker | [7574] RailWorks 2 Edinburgh-Glasgow Route Preorder DLC |
| 17:25.02 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 17:25.06 | Fisker | DLC we can preorder? |
| 17:25.42 | Fisker | btw it's over 100000 |
| 17:26.05 | Dagmar | It also comes with the free Exploding Breifcase addon |
| 17:26.23 | Fisker | and it's civ 5 dlc |
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| 17:27.51 | Olison | Fisker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU regarding iOS is UNIX |
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| 17:31.35 | Fisker | i lost sound Olison :( |
| 17:31.36 | Fisker | jerk |
| 17:32.04 | Dagmar | Doesn't even matter. |
| 17:32.05 | Fisker | anyway i didn't mean it was unix Olison |
| 17:32.15 | Dagmar | It's still BSD-derived, which as close enough for most people |
| 17:32.15 | Fisker | even though i said it |
| 17:32.23 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 17:32.54 | Fisker | March 11, 2011 -- Valve, creator of best-selling game franchises (such as Half-Life, Portal, Left 4 Dead, and Counter-Strike) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today announced an original song by popular recording artist The National will be included in its upcoming game, Portal 2, when it is released the worldwide the week of April 18. |
| 17:32.59 | Fisker | i don't even know them |
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| 17:33.48 | Fisker | sounds like emo music sofar |
| 17:35.54 | Fisker | my head Olison |
| 17:35.56 | Fisker | MY HEAAAAD |
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| 17:37.09 | Fisker | oh my |
| 17:37.15 | Fisker | i hope google doesn't read search results |
| 17:37.19 | Fisker | i just searched for screenshit |
| 17:37.24 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 17:37.29 | ckknight | Fisker. |
| 17:37.59 | Fisker | did you search for screenshit? |
| 17:40.57 | mckenziemc1 | starts targetting Fisker with ads related to 'screenshit' |
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| 17:49.33 | jnwhiteh | station |
| 17:53.10 | Kraps | what the hell is Olison |
| 17:53.29 | mckenziemc1 | a six-letter word |
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| 18:03.10 | Jamash | Fisker, why is Adobe so bad at software? |
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| 18:56.40 | ckknight | Jamash: software is hard. |
| 18:57.24 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:57.25 | karl_w_w | no silly, hardware is hard |
| 18:57.33 | Fisker | what is your problem Jamash ? |
| 18:57.36 | Fisker | i agree karl_w_w |
| 18:57.48 | Fisker | in game dev story it's pretty hard to get a hardware engineer |
| 18:58.10 | nebula169 | atleast you can fix software, hardware you just smash in frustration and wait for a replacement |
| 18:58.32 | Fisker | so Jamash |
| 18:58.36 | ckknight | deploy a new firmware, nebula169 |
| 18:58.36 | karl_w_w | that's cos there's no open-source consumer hardware |
| 18:59.47 | nebula169 | ;[ |
| 19:06.25 | Ackis | http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/03/11/143241/Gamer-Banned-From-emDragon-Age-IIem-Over-Forum-Post |
| 19:07.49 | karl_w_w | 1) sounds like a mistake to me, and 2) sounds like a good thing |
| 19:08.49 | ckknight | he was banned from EA before he bought the game |
| 19:08.51 | Fisker | it isn't a mistake |
| 19:09.00 | ckknight | so he can't download it |
| 19:09.08 | ckknight | but if he were to install it normally, there'd be no issue |
| 19:09.11 | Fisker | it's a completely retarded system too |
| 19:09.29 | Fisker | he needs to activate it to play it ckknight |
| 19:09.44 | ckknight | ah |
| 19:11.01 | Ackis | it is a retarded system |
| 19:11.19 | Fisker | basically if you don't like DA2/EA you can't play darkspore ckknight :3 |
| 19:11.20 | Primer | stupid freeload |
| 19:11.20 | Fisker | :3 |
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| 19:13.22 | ckknight | Fisker: sure I can |
| 19:13.41 | Ackis | Fisker: darkspore beta is going on today |
| 19:13.46 | Fisker | i know |
| 19:14.10 | Fisker | and ckknight not if EA bans you |
| 19:14.47 | Fisker | and the just absolute retarded thing about it is that if Bioware had gotten to the post first he would only have been banned from the forums |
| 19:15.34 | Ackis | the retarded thing is the bioware/EA marriage :( |
| 19:15.40 | Ackis | bioware games aren't like they used to be |
| 19:18.55 | Arrowmaster | obviously that entire thing about EA not controlling what bioware makes or how they do it was a lie |
| 19:19.14 | Arrowmaster | since you know it was EA marketing that ordered all the exclusive bonus items to be added |
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| 19:21.32 | Ackis | you unlock the 5th item in the dragon age facebook game if the game gets 100k likes |
| 19:21.57 | Fisker | love it |
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| 19:30.22 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:30.24 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:30.46 | foxlit_ | I installed beta nvidia drivers |
| 19:31.06 | foxlit_ | That solved the graphics problems <3 |
| 19:31.12 | Jamash | they're releasing radioactive vapor in japan |
| 19:31.49 | Jamash | what kind of trout is it Fisker? |
| 19:47.55 | mckenziemc1 | a large one |
| 19:48.00 | Fisker | radioactive trout Jamash |
| 19:50.41 | ckknight | http://koalastothemax.com/ |
| 19:53.56 | Jamash | cute |
| 19:54.00 | Jamash | kind of silly though |
| 19:54.08 | foxlit_ | the friendship/rivalry system seems kind of meh |
| 19:55.05 | Jamash | foxlit_: whatchoo talkin' bout |
| 19:55.06 | foxlit_ | It seems that the characters I actually like are almost always getting rivalry points. |
| 19:56.21 | Jamash | oh, dragon age |
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| 19:57.06 | Jamash | I dunno why people keep playing bioware's games, or should I say game. |
| 20:01.19 | Ackis | 136 achievements in ulduar, 48 in ICC, 36 in naxx... I'm starting to hate ulduar |
| 20:01.42 | Jamash | they screwed up with ulduar/ToC |
| 20:01.55 | Jamash | ulduar is way too big and ToC is way too small |
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| 20:06.19 | nebula169 | ulduar was just right |
| 20:06.31 | Jamash | toooooo big |
| 20:06.33 | nebula169 | have 1-3 achievements per boss was silly, though |
| 20:06.38 | nebula169 | having* |
| 20:06.51 | Jamash | ulduar has enough encounters for two raids |
| 20:08.14 | Jamash | well, that's an exaggeration |
| 20:08.15 | nebula169 | had about as many as most other raids, in wrath, no? |
| 20:08.22 | Jamash | yeah, I suppose |
| 20:08.55 | nebula169 | i do like the tbc/cata approach better, though, a couple smaller raids per tier |
| 20:09.57 | Jamash | I guess the issue was that ToC came out before a lot of people finished Ulduar |
| 20:10.27 | nebula169 | toc should have never happened ;[ |
| 20:10.46 | Jamash | yeh |
| 20:11.12 | foxlit_ | toc was fine. |
| 20:11.37 | Jamash | as a raid it was fine |
| 20:11.43 | Jamash | as an entire tier it was bad |
| 20:11.47 | nebula169 | it screwed up progression so much |
| 20:12.16 | foxlit_ | "screwed up" |
| 20:12.20 | foxlit_ | so dramatic :P |
| 20:12.28 | nebula169 | heh |
| 20:12.45 | nebula169 | well, it came too early and inflated ilvls beyond what they planned |
| 20:13.03 | nebula169 | so ratings got screwy and icc radiance happened |
| 20:13.25 | foxlit_ | I don't see a problem anywhere :) |
| 20:14.24 | nebula169 | icc ended up lasting way too long, would have been nice if they could have fleshed out the tier a bit better |
| 20:14.39 | nebula169 | the toc tier* |
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| 20:28.25 | Ackis | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-features-hated-securom-despite-previous-ea-claims.ars |
| 20:29.09 | Dagmar | Yeah that's pretty cool since EA is also apparently standing behind their "You must also have a live and in-good-standing forum account to play your game" policy |
| 20:30.44 | karl_w_w | EA: getting stupider every month |
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| 20:39.04 | kd3 | well, good news. finally got the email (hours delayed) from one, still one more to get a hold of |
| 20:42.06 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: more like greedier and greedier |
| 20:42.36 | Dagmar | Apparently they put a kid on a 72-hour naughty corner for him posting on Bioware's forums something that pretty mildly insulted EA |
| 20:43.53 | Dagmar | ...which neatly blocked him from ME2, DA:O, and a couple other single-player titles |
| 20:44.56 | Dagmar | When called on it, a Bioware guy pretty much said it's EA that did it, not them, and then indicated he should review two specific sections of the EA agreement |
| 20:45.09 | Dagmar | One of which basically says "You get to keep playing your games only as long as we think you should be able to play them" |
| 20:45.23 | Dagmar | So... I won't be giving any more money to EA or Bioware as long as their beholden to EA like tat |
| 20:51.17 | Ackis | http://www.december212012.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10524&start=0&sid=8f5754efe246c7ae1ed77e11fa056a26 RNG FTW |
| 20:53.21 | TC-Work | Dagmar: or buy it then crack it |
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| 21:00.42 | Dagmar | Hell no |
| 21:00.50 | Dagmar | I just will *not* support that kind of crap |
| 21:01.09 | Dagmar | If I buy a game, I expect to be allowed to have it remain functional for as long as I've got the OS and hardware support |
| 21:02.06 | Dagmar | THey're taking a longer view approach, likely planning to some 20 years down the road try to resell these games to people again as 'classics' |
| 21:02.26 | Dagmar | ...probably running on some dedicated console or other, with brand new DRM so the cycle continues |
| 21:04.18 | Dagmar | You don't even know what kind of crap I went through to regain access to Sims3 after they decided '+' was no longer valid in an email address |
| 21:04.33 | Dagmar | I was told to just go and re-buy the game at least three times |
| 21:05.47 | Ackis | ever get it working? |
| 21:05.49 | Jamash | so torrent it |
| 21:05.54 | Jamash | problem solved |
| 21:07.39 | Jamash | I CD-cracked my legit copy of WCIII/TFT long before they issued official patches that removed the CD check |
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| 21:12.59 | Jamash | is http://www.reclaimyourgame.com/content.php giving a 403 Forbidden to anyone else? |
| 21:15.00 | Dagmar | Looks like I got a 403 when the server was trying to report a 403 |
| 21:15.05 | Jamash | nice |
| 21:15.47 | Dagmar | Yay Frontpage |
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| 21:31.43 | Fisker | i am credit to team |
| 21:33.51 | Ackis | Stanzilla, Cide, Shirik|Gh: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlFtJyBiSdVEdGNTT2QwUU43MmZrb2NsczRwYVkwbWc&hl=en&authkey=COqM8fsJ is the math there right? |
| 21:35.09 | Jamash | that fact that that spreadsheet exists saddens me |
| 21:35.35 | kd3 | ej tends to create such things |
| 21:36.08 | Ackis | trinkets suck I'm just trying to find out what's "best" for me |
| 21:37.42 | Fisker | sup kd3 ? |
| 21:38.04 | kd3 | still waiting on one last person reporting in from tokyo |
| 21:38.18 | kd3 | now that it's daylight I'll start trying to contact her again |
| 21:38.38 | Dagmar | 5B |
| 21:39.05 | Dagmar | Ackis: I eventually got someone to reclaim my account, who was pretty pissy about it, after I started talking about suing them in small claims court |
| 21:39.12 | Fisker | i heard they were steaming some radioactive rods |
| 21:39.38 | Ackis | corporations suck =/ |
| 21:39.39 | Dagmar | Fisker: I"m suprised they have a fail-hot generator at all |
| 21:39.43 | Fisker | what account was that Dagmar ? |
| 21:39.52 | Dagmar | afaik all the ones in the US are cold-failure |
| 21:40.04 | Dagmar | Fisker: My Sims3 game |
| 21:40.11 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:40.18 | kd3 | that generator came online in the... 70s? |
| 21:40.21 | Dagmar | Fisker: I originally regged it to evildagmar+easims@blah.com, and then they changed their crap |
| 21:40.34 | kd3 | at least it's only going to be a steam vent and not a meltdown |
| 21:40.54 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:41.06 | Dagmar | Soo... Three *different* evildagmar+tagging@domain.com accounts got merged on top of each other, and the authorizations for two of them basically just went away |
| 21:41.11 | Fisker | Japan probably got their alotted amount of radiation already |
| 21:41.27 | Dagmar | Spore, I could care less about |
| 21:41.39 | Fisker | you are a man right Dagmar ? |
| 21:41.39 | Dagmar | Sims3 on the other hand, I was still hacking on |
| 21:42.23 | Dagmar | Fisker; Yes, I'm a man with Sims3 laptop packages that EA would probably sue me for. THey play WoW. Oh, and a TV model that has a hardcore porno channel |
| 21:42.44 | Fisker | :3 |
| 21:43.00 | Dagmar | THe more sandboxy a game is the more likely I am to buy it, and the less likely I am to actually play it as intended |
| 21:43.25 | Fisker | i played the unlimited student license for a couple of days |
| 21:43.37 | Fisker | fast forwarding through skills and shit |
| 21:43.44 | Fisker | then i figured out what i was doing and stopped |
| 21:46.51 | foxlit_ | heh, circlestrafing around dragons |
| 21:47.05 | kd3 | o_O |
| 21:47.34 | Dagmar | foxlit; Yeah I was suprised that acutally works |
| 21:47.55 | Dagmar | ...or at least, works better than being "crunchy" |
| 21:48.42 | Dagmar | Dragon breath > shield barrier, unfortunately |
| 21:49.37 | foxlit_ | I don't have a shield-carrying party member :( |
| 21:49.43 | Fisker | slaps foxlit_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:49.51 | foxlit_ | Or, rather, I do, but who wants a guard to follow them around? |
| 21:53.26 | Fisker | foxlit_ |
| 21:53.29 | Fisker | i slapped you |
| 21:54.03 | foxlit_ | And how did that make you feel? |
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| 21:54.16 | Fisker | great foxlit |
| 21:54.21 | Fisker | i could slap ckknight |
| 21:54.54 | ckknight | I will soon destroy your very essence, Fisker |
| 21:55.07 | Fisker | you would |
| 21:56.53 | Ackis | ok so if you buy a razer you get an ingame item for DA2, now if you buy from the dragon age store you get one too: http://yfrog.com/gygvwloj |
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| 22:08.47 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 22:08.52 | Fisker | why does EA suck? |
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| 22:09.39 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 22:10.42 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 22:11.23 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
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| 22:22.18 | Fisker | oh my |
| 22:22.23 | Fisker | they're trying to revive tribes again |
| 22:22.34 | Jamash | that happens like every year |
| 22:24.48 | Fisker | did that browser version ever get out? |
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| 22:28.13 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 22:28.25 | Fisker | why did this channel stop showing TNG when they're showing texas walker ranger? |
| 22:28.27 | Fisker | raaaaaaaaageeeeeeeeeee |
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| 22:42.50 | Fisker | so Ackis |
| 22:42.53 | Fisker | do you want me |
| 22:42.56 | Fisker | hey Parnic |
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| 22:46.05 | foxlit | Curse you, foreshadowing storyteller |
| 22:47.05 | Fisker | no u foxlit |
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| 22:49.32 | Fisker | Did you watch the ongoing coverage of "OMG WE WANT BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOD" today foxlit ? |
| 22:49.49 | foxlit | whose blood do we want, fisker? |
| 22:49.59 | Fisker | idk |
| 22:50.36 | Fisker | talking about the earthquake coverage :P |
| 22:50.45 | Cide | foxlit: what's your group comp without a warrior? |
| 22:50.47 | Fisker | Calling up people in hawaii "omg hai, you drowned yet?" |
| 22:50.51 | Cide | rogue/rogue/mage/mage? |
| 22:50.57 | ckknight | Fisker: my parents are there |
| 22:50.59 | Cide | or do you play a warrior without a shield |
| 22:51.01 | ckknight | hopefully they're fine |
| 22:51.05 | foxlit | It's actually warrior/warrior/rogue/mage |
| 22:51.13 | foxlit | It's just that none of those warriors have shields |
| 22:51.16 | Cide | ah |
| 22:51.23 | Fisker | I heard there were virtually no damages in hawaii |
| 22:51.32 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:51.35 | ckknight | I'll call em later tonight |
| 22:51.35 | foxlit | I also don't have anyone with healing in there. Bless normal difficulty? |
| 22:51.54 | Cide | yeah gl with that on insane |
| 22:52.00 | Cide | or nightmare rather |
| 22:52.19 | Cide | can barely stay alive with 2 mages with Heal :/ |
| 22:52.41 | Jamash | what the hell are you talking about |
| 22:52.48 | Cide | dragon age 2 |
| 22:52.51 | Jamash | boo |
| 22:52.54 | Jamash | get off the stage |
| 22:53.03 | Cide | I've had a lot of fun with it so far. |
| 22:53.04 | Jamash | throws a rotten tomato |
| 22:53.34 | Xinhuan | i played nightmare right away on DA:O |
| 22:53.44 | Xinhuan | should be fine with insane :P |
| 22:53.51 | Cide | there's no insane afaik |
| 22:53.57 | Xinhuan | or whatever the hardest is |
| 22:54.00 | Cide | nightmare |
| 22:54.09 | Cide | yeah, it's fine usually |
| 22:54.15 | Cide | you actually need tactics |
| 22:55.31 | Fisker | i'm so bored Cide |
| 22:55.36 | Cide | go play da2 |
| 22:55.38 | Xinhuan | that's the whole point |
| 22:55.47 | Xinhuan | tactics make the game interesting |
| 22:56.20 | Xinhuan | although, i'm mildly annoyed at the fact that i have to set up 2 completely separate tactics for a ranged rogue dps versus a melee rogue dps |
| 22:56.28 | Xinhuan | and manually switch between them at times |
| 22:56.30 | Cide | well there's a need for some tactics on hard too |
| 22:56.39 | Cide | but positioning is less critical |
| 22:56.50 | Xinhuan | since the game doesn't allow you to script switching of tactics |
| 22:57.53 | foxlit | "Not enchantment" |
| 22:58.01 | foxlit | teehee |
| 22:59.46 | mckenziemc1 | wtf |
| 23:00.08 | mckenziemc1 | the exported data from this program has file sizes reported in dollars >.> |
| 23:00.19 | Cide | sounds like PHP |
| 23:00.20 | Cide | lololol |
| 23:00.36 | Jamash | how many dollars? |
| 23:00.39 | mckenziemc1 | CarboniteReadMe.txt is $31970.00 xD |
| 23:00.50 | Jamash | pricey |
| 23:00.52 | mckenziemc1 | it's a csv dump, but that may be |
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| 23:33.07 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:33.13 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 23:33.14 | Fisker | jerk dungeon defenders on mobiles |
| 23:34.04 | Fisker | you can't make button mashers for a mobile phone |
| 23:34.07 | Fisker | that's a jerk move |
| 23:34.45 | bluspacecow | they should make one |
| 23:34.47 | bluspacecow | just for you |
| 23:34.54 | bluspacecow | call it the Fikser!Mobile |
| 23:34.58 | bluspacecow | now with added troll :) |
| 23:35.00 | Fisker | they did |
| 23:35.04 | Fisker | it's called dungeon defender |
| 23:35.07 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 23:35.42 | Fisker | yes |
| 23:43.52 | foxlit | whee, difficulty curve |
| 23:44.34 | Fisker | did you hit it? |
| 23:45.37 | foxlit | It hit me :( |
| 23:47.05 | Fisker | imma go defend dungeons |
| 23:48.14 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap bluspacecow |
| 23:48.14 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around a bit with Fisker. |
| 23:48.21 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 23:52.32 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 23:52.48 | mckenziemc | I'll do anything you ever dreamed to be complete, little pieces of the nothing that fall |
