| 00:00.05 | Lunessa | SoE Fan Faire is more of a social thing for the fans than a display event like BlizzCon? |
| 00:00.48 | Lunessa | As in... it's about fans meeting other fans (at least, that's my impression) |
| 00:02.19 | Arrowmaster | i just ment that i thought most vegas conventions were either more social events like Lunessa is suggesting, or they have a lot more things to see like tons of vendor booths ala CES etc |
| 00:03.44 | Cairenn | dolby would be the one to ask, he goes to SOE's FF all the time |
| 00:04.52 | dolby | yes Lunessa, even the SOE events are more social 21+ events |
| 00:04.57 | dolby | ie open bar |
| 00:05.01 | Arrowmaster | maybe once D3 and 'titan' come out they would have more stuff to do at once without overlaping too much |
| 00:06.21 | Lunessa | dolby: Ngreth and Niami go all the time. :) |
| 00:06.28 | nicoli_s | im excited for blizzcon this year, finally dont have to pay to go |
| 00:06.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 00:06.53 | dolby | blizzcon the fans make it social with the awesome after parties |
| 00:07.16 | nicoli_s | and the curse party is gonna be even bigger this year |
| 00:07.24 | Lunessa | And the drinking in the hotel bar. |
| 00:07.33 | Lunessa | Oh lord the drinking in the hotel bar. |
| 00:07.43 | dolby | cool, there will be some new parties by other sites too i hear ;) |
| 00:07.56 | Lunessa | But you know, we forgot to bust out the Absinthe, even though I brought it last year. |
| 00:08.28 | Arrowmaster | guess ill have to hit up the ticket lottery this year, never actually tried before |
| 00:09.03 | dolby | where as with SOE they have the parties with tons of booze. most fun was open bar and gokarts |
| 00:09.05 | Cide | I ended up with ~50 in line before me |
| 00:09.12 | dolby | lots of drunk driving |
| 00:09.34 | Lunessa | I'm already making plans to go to BlizzCon, only I'm going to try to allow more time on the trip this time... so I can sleep somwhere in the bouts of drunken revelry. |
| 00:09.51 | dolby | cool! |
| 00:10.14 | Lunessa | And I'll try not to be hung over so I can do rides with falls... so I won't puke on anyone. |
| 00:10.25 | dolby | The Hilton next to the convention center has become the party hotel |
| 00:10.29 | nicoli_s | dolby:zam throwing a party? |
| 00:10.34 | dolby | i think its the 4th floor |
| 00:10.45 | dolby | its nuts |
| 00:11.11 | Arrowmaster | i missed it but i heard metzan was over there drunk and yelling 'for the horde' |
| 00:11.16 | dolby | (thats where they put my room, party was going strong until 6am lol) |
| 00:13.48 | Arrowmaster | i was too tired to get up and walk all the way back over there once i got to my room after the closing |
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| 00:14.19 | DJJeff | slaps trout around a bit with a large Fisker and Arrowmaster's small penis |
| 00:14.33 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: hes back |
| 00:14.52 | Cairenn | DJJeff: ... |
| 00:14.56 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 00:15.26 | Lunessa | Heh. I stayed at he Super8 just a few blocks away. And even so, I was pretty beat with all the walking and drinking. |
| 00:16.10 | nicoli_s | Cairenn:are yall throwing a party this year? |
| 00:16.17 | Cairenn | no idea |
| 00:16.27 | Cairenn | unless you mean the dinner? |
| 00:16.40 | Cairenn | the dinner will happen, same as every year, yes |
| 00:16.44 | Arrowmaster | well the dinner ended with a party last year |
| 00:16.51 | Cairenn | always does :) |
| 00:16.51 | Lunessa | Mmmmm.... dinner. |
| 00:16.56 | DJJeff | I still think Cairenn is the author of carbonite X_X |
| 00:17.04 | Cairenn | not |
| 00:17.19 | Arrowmaster | i still think Cairenn doesnt even play wow |
| 00:17.25 | Cairenn | yes I do |
| 00:17.29 | DJJeff | why not? |
| 00:17.50 | DJJeff | Arrowmaster why you gotta be a baby man.... I dont get it |
| 00:18.12 | DJJeff | like its high school and your calling for a teachers help |
| 00:18.38 | Cairenn | DJJeff: stop being an ass |
| 00:18.46 | DJJeff | how am I being an ass |
| 00:18.54 | DJJeff | he's picking on me |
| 00:18.57 | Cairenn | trying to provoke an argument |
| 00:18.59 | DJJeff | im offended |
| 00:19.00 | Cairenn | just stop |
| 00:19.10 | TC-Work | thats ok, i'm offensive |
| 00:19.40 | DJJeff | I almost phoned his isp to complain that he was hacking into my joomla yesterday |
| 00:19.47 | DJJeff | or trying too |
| 00:19.58 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:20.01 | DJJeff | like what grown up "hacks" |
| 00:20.08 | TC-Work | i so hate joomla |
| 00:20.16 | DJJeff | only babies hack |
| 00:20.21 | Arrowmaster | do you even know what i did? |
| 00:20.30 | DJJeff | I like wordpress more now |
| 00:20.41 | DJJeff | yes I looked at my apache logs |
| 00:20.46 | DJJeff | I saw what you did |
| 00:21.00 | DJJeff | im not a *nix noob |
| 00:21.23 | Arrowmaster | yes so you saw that all i did was visit the main page and click the 'administration' link |
| 00:21.29 | Arrowmaster | and nothing else |
| 00:21.50 | DJJeff | ok w/e just please apologize and move on |
| 00:21.59 | DJJeff | its over and done now |
| 00:22.03 | Arrowmaster | haha, not happening, ever |
| 00:22.26 | DJJeff | you are that much of a baby that you cant apologize |
| 00:22.39 | DJJeff | well im sorry for egging you on X_X |
| 00:22.58 | DJJeff | didnt know that you didnt have a sense of humor |
| 00:23.00 | Arrowmaster | no, theres just nothing for me to apologize for |
| 00:23.21 | DJJeff | for posting my sites public ip in a irc channel |
| 00:23.32 | DJJeff | which is dumb cause anyone can find out what it is |
| 00:23.49 | DJJeff | its like..... ooooo I have google.com ip addy |
| 00:23.54 | DJJeff | I feel special |
| 00:23.59 | DJJeff | seriously man |
| 00:24.12 | Arrowmaster | and as Shirik pointed out last night right after you said that, your address was displayed the second you joined the channel |
| 00:24.19 | Cairenn | ya know something? I don't much like being ignored |
| 00:24.26 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: sorry |
| 00:24.48 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: you aren't the one that is continuing |
| 00:24.49 | DJJeff | yes Arrowmaster people that dont have their ip masked in irc is public |
| 00:25.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+q DJJeff!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 00:25.43 | karl_w_w | ty |
| 00:26.07 | TC-Work | awwww common Cairenn, that was free entertainment. |
| 00:26.28 | TC-Work | i usually have to pay to see stupidity like that |
| 00:26.35 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:26.46 | Torhal | Heh |
| 00:26.48 | cog|away | and you didn't pay Cairenn, did you |
| 00:26.54 | cog|away | so there |
| 00:26.55 | cog|away | :P |
| 00:27.02 | TC-Work | why would i? she stoped it! |
| 00:27.05 | TC-Work | stopped* |
| 00:27.34 | TC-Work | i like how you go |away then chat cog|away |
| 00:27.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b DJJeff!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 00:27.41 | cog|away | I NO RITE? |
| 00:27.43 | *** kick/#wowuidev [DJJeff!~Karen@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (DJJeff) |
| 00:27.54 | cog|away | |aways |
| 00:28.11 | TC-Work | so much for that behind the scenes conversation |
| 00:28.39 | Arrowmaster | would have probably been entertaining too if it was public |
| 00:28.39 | Torhal | I hope that's permanent. Every time that guy's in channel I want to blind myself. |
| 00:29.56 | Cairenn | he decided he didn't want to take the warning gracefully and wait for me to remove the quiet, so he got a ban instead |
| 00:29.58 | Cairenn | shrugs |
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| 00:31.23 | Cairenn | I'm sick and tired of all the bullshit arguing always going on in here, I'm putting my foot down |
| 00:31.25 | Arrowmaster | now hes messaging me |
| 00:31.37 | Jamash | I didn't do it! |
| 00:31.39 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: put him on ignore |
| 00:31.44 | Cairenn | Jamash: not you |
| 00:31.56 | Arrowmaster | i so wish this was gamesurge right now instead of freenode |
| 00:32.09 | Jamash | Cairenn: hooray! |
| 00:32.18 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 00:33.03 | Arrowmaster | because ive known some of the ircops on gamesurge for a very long time, including one of the board members |
| 00:33.11 | Cairenn | ah |
| 00:33.28 | Cairenn | I can get him klined if he really keeps pushing it |
| 00:33.32 | Arrowmaster | just telling them about the messages im receiving right now would get him a permentant kline from the network |
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| 00:34.11 | PerfM | jb was soo on csi last night |
| 00:35.09 | Cairenn | I was amused by one of his 'insults' to me, because he was so completely wrong |
| 00:37.40 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: if he continues being abusive, you can probably get him klined yourself - or else you can send me a log and I can see to it instead, if you'd rather |
| 00:37.48 | kd3 | wtf |
| 00:37.51 | PerfM | Ohh emm geee |
| 00:37.54 | kd3 | scrolls up |
| 00:38.21 | Cairenn | I just never bothered responding to any of his IMs and he stopped bugging me |
| 00:38.31 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 00:39.32 | PerfM | same here |
| 00:39.35 | PerfM | he's so weird right? |
| 00:40.59 | Lunessa | You know what's great about dealing with people online? A couple of lines of code and you never have to deal with them again. |
| 00:41.02 | Arrowmaster | and you are? you werent even here when it happened |
| 00:42.17 | Lunessa | Apparently an earhtquake in Christchurch, England. Not clear on where that is, so if you're in the area, pipe up and let us know you're ok? |
| 00:42.30 | kd3 | also, wow. 25 years of zelda |
| 00:43.02 | ajmitch | Lunessa: NZ, not england :) |
| 00:43.15 | Lunessa | ajmitch: See, this is why I said "not clear" |
| 00:43.18 | Lunessa | :D |
| 00:43.49 | PerfM | ArrowMaster: yes I was. |
| 00:43.52 | ajmitch | is a bit south of there, but close enough to feel it at work :) |
| 00:44.02 | Lunessa | 6.3 is pretty big. |
| 00:44.46 | ajmitch | yeah, this is a few months after a 7.1 in the same general area |
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| 01:03.48 | Kraps | funny story: a little over half the house is without power, just ran an extension cord from the kitchen to power my pc and the phones |
| 01:04.33 | Wobin | Christchurch resident Jane Smith who works in the central city told the Herald a work colleague had just returned from helping rescue efforts after a building facade had collapsed on a bus on Colombo St. |
| 01:04.38 | Wobin | "There's people dead. He was pulling them out of a bus." |
| 01:04.40 | Wobin | "Columbo St is completely munted." |
| 01:04.42 | Wobin | =( |
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| 01:07.31 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: shows you what the priority is |
| 01:07.41 | Kraps | yup |
| 01:08.45 | Kraps | neighbors' power is out too |
| 01:09.02 | Kraps | wont be fixed till 6 am or something |
| 01:09.18 | Arrowmaster | why is only half of your house without power? |
| 01:10.16 | Thunder_Child | emergency generator for the TV and PC |
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| 01:12.07 | Kraps | my brother tried to explain it, theres 2 110s and a neutral run into houses, one of the 110s is borked |
| 01:12.45 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: no generator |
| 01:13.17 | Kraps | the kitchen area has lighting and 2 working outlets |
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| 01:17.12 | Kraps | no heating ahhhhhhhhh |
| 01:19.54 | Lunessa | Chop down a tree and make a fire! |
| 01:21.21 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 01:21.29 | Kraps | where, pray tell, shall i start the house fire Lunessa? |
| 01:21.31 | kd3 | linkedin is funny |
| 01:21.51 | Lunessa | Kraps: Right by something expensive and flamable. |
| 01:22.17 | kd3 | s/funny/neat/ |
| 01:22.21 | kd3 | and/or scary |
| 01:22.23 | kd3 | it wants me to connect with cairenn and slouken |
| 01:22.36 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:22.37 | Kraps | dining room have a lot of wooden furniture |
| 01:24.49 | Kraps | heres something to keep you busy http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/21/the-120-best-pc-games-of-the-last-20-years/ |
| 01:25.30 | Kraps | and another huge article http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/21/bulletstorm-gate-fox-news-responds/ |
| 01:26.20 | Kraps | laters |
| 01:31.51 | Corrodias2 | http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Libya-pilots-defect-after-orders-to-shoot-20110221 |
| 01:36.31 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, I told him that it was only a 12 hr silence |
| 01:36.50 | Shirik | If he chooses to continue his behavior, that can be addressed |
| 01:36.55 | Shirik | though he doesn't appear to be here right now |
| 01:37.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: he got banned |
| 01:37.09 | Shirik | orly |
| 01:37.13 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 01:37.15 | Thunder_Child | really |
| 01:37.17 | Shirik | (my BNC doesn't log bans and kicks) |
| 01:37.50 | Lunessa | Cairenn got sick of his crap and just banned him. I cheered (silently, in my office) |
| 01:40.14 | Shirik | http://translate.google.com/#de|en|%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4%C3%A4 |
| 01:40.25 | Shirik | ~x de en äääääääääääääää |
| 01:40.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:40.36 | Shirik | well click the link instead |
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| 01:43.20 | alestane | Shirik, that's, um, random. |
| 01:44.42 | kd3 | the fu? |
| 01:45.10 | mckenziemc | Shirik: O.o |
| 01:45.13 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 01:46.14 | Kalroth | Adys, there? |
| 01:46.51 | Adys | sorta |
| 01:47.17 | Shirik | my hard drive is making a really cool noise |
| 01:47.25 | Shirik | It might have actually decided to die this time |
| 01:47.26 | kd3 | that is a bad thing |
| 01:47.34 | Shirik | Well a week a go it was clicking |
| 01:47.42 | kd3 | a very bad thing |
| 01:47.42 | Shirik | so I backed up what I cared about |
| 01:47.46 | Shirik | and then it decided to work fine |
| 01:47.46 | kd3 | thinks of the click of death |
| 01:47.55 | Corrodias2 | thinks of the click of all's well |
| 01:47.58 | Kalroth | Adys, was it you that discussed flash video and fullscreen with? |
| 01:48.01 | Shirik | and I'm like "ok so now that I have everything backed up, it's ok again" |
| 01:48.08 | Shirik | now it's not clicking |
| 01:48.14 | Shirik | it's ... |
| 01:48.17 | Shirik | I don't even know what to call it |
| 01:48.26 | Corrodias2 | i believe i publicly complained about the flash video player in use by blip.tv to perform poorly in here |
| 01:48.43 | Kalroth | naw, it was about it losing fullscreen when you gave another app focus |
| 01:49.00 | Kalroth | which it stopped doing for me after a patch last week, heh |
| 01:49.01 | Corrodias2 | oh, not me, then. |
| 01:49.07 | Corrodias2 | i mean, yeah, that pisses me off, too |
| 01:49.18 | Kalroth | well i got fullscreen youtube running atm |
| 01:49.21 | Corrodias2 | i mostly just download videos and watch them in MPC |
| 01:49.24 | Kalroth | while typing in irc :p |
| 01:49.39 | Corrodias2 | fantástico, amigo |
| 01:49.53 | Kalroth | was just going to ask Adys if he had any Adobe contacts! |
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| 01:54.58 | Adys | Kalroth: yeah, theres a hacky fix for the flash dll |
| 01:55.17 | Kalroth | no, i just got a flash update |
| 01:55.21 | Kalroth | didnt do anything myself |
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| 02:27.55 | Shirik | I think the best part about this pokemon thing is that if you delete one ä or add one ä it reverts to not doing anything |
| 02:29.15 | Mr_Rabies | <@Shirik> my hard drive is making a really cool noise |
| 02:29.23 | Mr_Rabies | i've had a couple failing hard drives do this weird like |
| 02:29.27 | Mr_Rabies | almost beeping thing |
| 02:29.39 | Mr_Rabies | like it uses the motors to make an error code |
| 02:29.58 | Mr_Rabies | i can't recall how old or what brand but it was pretty confusing D: |
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| 02:41.31 | airtonix | hi Torhal |
| 02:41.36 | airtonix | i love you |
| 02:42.04 | airtonix | i mean, i'm going to destroy you fisker |
| 02:42.12 | A-KO | Blizzard totally missed a pop culture reference opportunity in the deadmines :( It would have been pretty awesome if they had done it, though. |
| 02:42.13 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMj0t7sds7I |
| 02:42.16 | A-KO | I think of this every time I run the place |
| 02:42.37 | Mr_Rabies | the whole place is a goonies reference |
| 02:42.58 | airtonix | A-KO: how did you miss that sir ? |
| 02:43.13 | A-KO | because they didn't have the signature "hey you guys!" :( |
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| 02:58.10 | kd3 | oh wow, the spire on the christchurch cathedral fell in the quake |
| 02:58.52 | kd3 | in addition to fatalities. :( |
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| 03:00.23 | Wobin | I liked that church =( |
| 03:01.54 | Corrodias2 | it had so much christ in it |
| 03:05.36 | Wobin | it was really pretty =( |
| 03:05.46 | A-KO | hmmmm |
| 03:05.53 | Wobin | well, majority of it is standing |
| 03:05.54 | A-KO | anyone here happen to know what town bluspacecow is from? |
| 03:06.01 | Wobin | the bells probably didn't survive =\ |
| 03:06.25 | airtonix | A-KO: outlands |
| 03:06.29 | A-KO | heh |
| 03:06.33 | A-KO | I meant as far as NZ is concerned |
| 03:06.50 | mckenziemc | airtonix: somewhere on Argus, actually |
| 03:07.42 | airtonix | actually |
| 03:08.25 | mckenziemc | factually |
| 03:09.13 | airtonix | mckenziemc: how's the ritlin? |
| 03:09.47 | mckenziemc | no such thing |
| 03:10.07 | airtonix | good to hear |
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| 03:17.16 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Bc7eRTdWY |
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| 03:22.40 | Kraps | http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Libya-pilots-defect-after-orders-to-shoot-20110221 |
| 03:22.51 | Kraps | oh snap wrong channel |
| 03:22.53 | Wobin | http://christchurch-2011.person-finder.appspot.com/ |
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| 03:23.04 | Wobin | if anyone is looking |
| 03:23.10 | airtonix | Kraps: #tinfoilhats is >>>> that way |
| 03:23.40 | Kraps | no airtonix |
| 03:23.45 | airtonix | why Kraps |
| 03:23.55 | Kraps | because airtonix |
| 03:24.04 | airtonix | but why Kraps |
| 03:24.20 | Kraps | your mom airtonix? |
| 03:24.32 | airtonix | let me think about it |
| 03:24.49 | Kraps | k |
| 03:33.33 | Kraps | "FoxNews.com first exposed Bulletstorm on Feb. 8" yeah fighting the good fight! |
| 03:34.04 | airtonix | durcyn, Dagma, Arrowmaster, Adys: Have any of you chaps had NFS + LDAP running ? anyhting noteable to watch out for ? |
| 03:34.27 | Adys | never messed with nfs |
| 03:34.43 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 03:34.55 | Adys | morale of the story is |
| 03:34.58 | Adys | never mess with nfs |
| 03:35.16 | Wobin | I thought it was "Never get into a land war with China" |
| 03:35.58 | durcyn | airtonix: what's nfs have to do with ldap? you mean keeping the ldap backend db on an nfs mount, or? |
| 03:36.42 | Iriel | airtonix: i've had a (very small) LDAP + NFS setup working at times |
| 03:37.27 | alestane | NFS isn't supposed to be terribly secure. In particular, my understanding is that it should never be exposed to a WAN. But that's a fairly cursory impression. |
| 03:37.32 | Iriel | My problems all amounted to issues with ldap client caching, or getting LDAP to work in the first place |
| 03:37.49 | alestane | Now, I have to sleep. |
| 03:37.54 | airtonix | alestane: yeah i would never expose it to WAN unless it was over a VPN |
| 03:38.42 | airtonix | durcyn: well nfs has several ways to handle access permissions, the easiest but most tedious is to just list the IP addresses, but apparently you can use PAM, KERBEROS, LDAP to decide if and what NFS share a client is allowed to mount |
| 03:39.13 | airtonix | instead of having to manage a great list of IP addresses, i'd like to centralise that in ldap |
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| 03:40.16 | airtonix | http://www.itp.uzh.ch/~dpotter/howto/kerberos |
| 03:40.28 | durcyn | ah, no, i've only ever done it with normal uid access control |
| 03:40.52 | airtonix | yeah i think this replaces the uid lookup at PAM and instead scans the LDAP for UID |
| 04:00.48 | cogwheel | just got myself a logitech G700 from best buy. Box says it comes with a free game (one i'll probably never play). In the checkout line, i noticed one of the sealing stickers had been cut and another placed over it. All of the hardware is in working order. |
| 04:00.56 | cogwheel | who wants to bet my free game has already been claimed? |
| 04:01.20 | Kraps | http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/21/battle-net-marketplace-facing-hurdles.aspx |
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| 04:05.35 | cogwheel | activation successful. Wonder what happened to the box... |
| 04:07.00 | airtonix | i removed the tinfoil hat from it |
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| 04:09.11 | Kraps | its getting cold here |
| 04:12.04 | mckenziemc | woot |
| 04:12.14 | mckenziemc | just bought a 6 tab guild bank for 3000g |
| 04:12.31 | cogwheel | airtonix: you're implying i'm paranoid aren't you??! Why are you out to get me!!!!???? |
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| 04:19.22 | mckenziemc | "Playtime for 13 Feb 2011 - 19 Feb 2011" "Total Minutes: 3997 min" O.o |
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| 04:33.12 | Ackis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18206-SpartanUIFanUpdate.html#comments /me internet bitchslaps that guy |
| 04:34.33 | Cairenn | do me a favour, please Ackis - bitch slap him any where you want OTHER than WoWI, I don't want a flame fest going on on my site |
| 04:36.05 | airtonix | whats the python way of doing leg.parent() here : http://dpaste.com/437322/ |
| 04:36.19 | mckenziemc | i assume the problem is that he's not able to host it on curse because it's a fan update? |
| 04:36.30 | Ackis | Cairenn/mckenziemc: he's hosting addons with all rights reserved in it |
| 04:36.40 | mckenziemc | ah i see |
| 04:36.45 | Ackis | he's bitching about me respecting author copyright |
| 04:36.59 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 04:37.08 | mckenziemc | did he make any attempts to contact the author? |
| 04:37.21 | Ackis | no idea, he made no attempts to even contact me |
| 04:37.34 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:37.45 | Cairenn | Ackis: huh? |
| 04:37.55 | Ackis | bartender 4 == all rights reserved |
| 04:38.03 | Cairenn | okay, and? |
| 04:38.26 | Ackis | does he have persmission? *shrugs* |
| 04:39.15 | Cairenn | I get that, but what's the argument you and he are having? |
| 04:39.40 | Cairenn | what does it have to do with him bitching at you about author copyright? |
| 04:39.51 | Cairenn | is confused and trying to get the back story |
| 04:40.05 | Ackis | doesn't matter, nothing will be done... afk raiding again |
| 04:40.17 | mckenziemc | he's unable to host it on curse.com because curse doesn't respect copyright infringement, it _looks_ like he's complaining that curse is just being ornery |
| 04:40.45 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: what? that statement makes zero sense, please try again |
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| 04:41.08 | mckenziemc | actually there may be a mistake there anyway, i knew nothing of this beforehand so i'm trying to piece it together |
| 04:41.13 | airtonix | did you remove the qq ? |
| 04:41.17 | airtonix | i see no qq |
| 04:41.20 | airtonix | T_T |
| 04:41.42 | mckenziemc | let me check curse.com's policy info first |
| 04:42.39 | Cairenn | mckenziemc: Ackis and I are talking, it's fine, leave it be, please |
| 04:43.05 | mckenziemc | ok |
| 04:43.51 | mckenziemc | i'm only interested in it out of curiosity but i'll move on so you don't have to worry :p |
| 04:44.36 | Cairenn | not worried, just saying :) |
| 04:47.41 | airtonix | bundles mckenziemc |
| 04:48.11 | mckenziemc | :O |
| 04:48.46 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:49.09 | mckenziemc | Fisker what are you doing up? it's past your bedtime! |
| 04:49.44 | mckenziemc | oh actually i guess it's early morning there |
| 04:56.25 | Arrowmaster | is also interested in the result of this |
| 04:57.19 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 04:57.44 | Cairenn | interested in the result is one thing, guessing at what's going on and going looking for rules and stuff is another (unnecessary) thing, when people that work for the respective communities are already in conversation :) |
| 04:58.40 | bluspacecow | *gets popcorn* |
| 04:58.57 | bluspacecow | there is dramaz in the addon community ? should I get a big gulp while I sit down and watch ? |
| 04:59.09 | Fisker | my harddrive sounds horrible |
| 04:59.10 | Arrowmaster | well i am a part of one of the communities involved but not directly in this situation, and just from an inital look at the file on wowi i can see exactly why its not allowed on curse |
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| 05:00.30 | Cairenn | I didn't think Curse allowed comps any more, to begin with |
| 05:00.50 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats one of them |
| 05:01.01 | Arrowmaster | unless its been fixed, they completely break the client |
| 05:01.10 | Arrowmaster | plus there is the entire copyright issue |
| 05:01.31 | Cairenn | well, we rather respect copyright as well you know :p |
| 05:02.05 | Cairenn | sorry, but the way you phrased that makes it sound like we don't |
| 05:03.20 | Arrowmaster | i ment copyright being a general issue with comps and with that one specifically |
| 05:03.26 | Cairenn | nod |
| 05:03.54 | bluspacecow | :( another earthquake in ChristChurch :( |
| 05:04.34 | Cairenn | most authors don't mind if their addons are included in comps, PROVIDED that proper credit is given - and those that do, just let us know and we make sure that any comps that violate their rights are pulled until they are brought into compliance |
| 05:04.49 | Shirik | (20:55:17) (+BetacommandBot8) Stalked summary: "[[WP:AES|â]]Replaced content with 'wikipedia is unreliabe'" (matched replaced content with) used by [[User:Multiblowholes]], edited [[Hotmail]]; Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=415268260&oldid=415047015 |
| 05:05.00 | Shirik | I wonder why |
| 05:05.34 | Fisker | Microsoft are geniuses |
| 05:05.44 | Fisker | to play this game you must be signed in to live |
| 05:05.56 | Fisker | oh ok there's an update exit the game to update |
| 05:06.02 | Fisker | to exit the game you must be signed in to live |
| 05:06.05 | Fisker | well fuck you :< |
| 05:08.20 | Fisker | even the fonts are low res textures omg |
| 05:08.26 | Fisker | also my mouse just started morsing |
| 05:08.36 | Fisker | and then the game stopped working |
| 05:08.37 | Fisker | permanently |
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| 05:09.58 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: btw that SpartanUI fan update file on wowi includes the .git directory in the oUF folder, possibly bloating up the size of the file because it includes the entire oUF history |
| 05:12.02 | Cairenn | well that's kind of stupid on his part |
| 05:12.21 | bluspacecow | herp derp |
| 05:13.50 | mckenziemc | ~vicarious |
| 05:13.50 | purl | ACTION lives vicariously while the whole world dies. Much better you than I! |
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| 05:14.56 | bluspacecow | ~love purl |
| 05:14.56 | purl | If you love purl so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 05:15.06 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 05:17.18 | Kraps | the heats back up! |
| 05:17.43 | bluspacecow | is goods ? |
| 05:17.46 | bluspacecow | or bads ? |
| 05:19.02 | Jamash | ~marry purl |
| 05:20.02 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 05:20.08 | bluspacecow | yes ? |
| 05:20.28 | Fisker | hello |
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| 05:22.17 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 05:22.55 | Jamash | as I understand it, compilations are pointless and unnecessary on curse since you can just say "use all these addons" and the client will install them for you |
| 05:23.16 | Fisker | i once made you useless Jamash |
| 05:23.25 | Jamash | only once Fisker? |
| 05:23.52 | mckenziemc | is it possible to create arbitrary cvars in the Config.wtf file? i'm wondering if i can have a custom launcher send a simple code that an addon can then read once i log in (the idea being that the code refers to a "profile" of interface settings, and the addon takes care of applying them instead of my launcher) |
| 05:24.14 | bluspacecow | hai2u fisker |
| 05:24.22 | Jamash | mckenziemc: why not use a savedvariables file? |
| 05:24.58 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: it's not a compilation if there isn't at least one retarded aspect about its delivery |
| 05:25.18 | mckenziemc | i'm already going to be editing Config.wtf, so it would be simpler if i can stick with one file |
| 05:25.32 | Jamash | why are you editing config.wtf? |
| 05:25.42 | airtonix | to annoy you |
| 05:25.50 | Jamash | obviously, but other than that? |
| 05:25.52 | Arrowmaster | only valid cvars are accessable ingame |
| 05:26.02 | mckenziemc | also i use multiple accounts, with symbolic links to one folder for saved variables, i don't know if that would cause issues |
| 05:26.06 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: ah |
| 05:26.08 | airtonix | Jamash: hoho, to prevent world hunger |
| 05:26.19 | Arrowmaster | or they should be |
| 05:26.31 | Jamash | airtonix: to denounce the evils of truth and love? |
| 05:26.32 | Arrowmaster | since you cant save invalid ones if you try to set them ingame |
| 05:26.43 | airtonix | banzai |
| 05:26.45 | mckenziemc | Jamash: so that i can store login info for multiple battle.net accounts, and to set things like resolution before actually starting wow |
| 05:27.39 | mckenziemc | i have my trail accounts on a separate b.net acc, and i'm thinking of putting a vanilla account on it too to play around with using it as a relay for ingame battle.net communication |
| 05:27.40 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm touching your daemon |
| 05:27.41 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: cvars are stored serverside |
| 05:27.58 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: surely you jest |
| 05:27.59 | mckenziemc | you sure? |
| 05:28.13 | airtonix | there is no jesting here |
| 05:28.34 | Arrowmaster | maybe not all of them but i believe some are |
| 05:29.05 | mckenziemc | i already have a script that removes my battle.net and wow account names from Config.wtf, and i can use separate shortcuts to launch wow and have the info filled in for any of the accounts i frequently use |
| 05:29.14 | mckenziemc | via the file |
| 05:30.18 | airtonix | Fisker: why should i care about bulletstorm ? |
| 05:30.34 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: this sounds like a use for sed |
| 05:30.50 | mckenziemc | i read on wowwiki (before wowpedia's time) that you can save a custom cvar that will last for the whole live of a wow.exe process |
| 05:30.57 | Jamash | mckenziemc: this sounds like a job for symlinks |
| 05:31.34 | mckenziemc | unnecessary bloat :p |
| 05:31.36 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: there are no uses for sed |
| 05:31.47 | mckenziemc | Arrowaster: i already have the text editing handled |
| 05:31.53 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster* |
| 05:32.02 | airtonix | hoho |
| 05:32.36 | Arrowmaster | k, well im going to go watch tonights Castle, from the first 48 seconds im already convinced its going to be epic |
| 05:32.52 | mckenziemc | Jamash: also i want to be able to say to wow.exe: "You are the first running instance" or "You are the second" because of a project i want to try with saved variables |
| 05:34.01 | Jamash | mckenziemc: make your accounts realid friends, and determine priority based on how many realid friends are online |
| 05:34.35 | mckenziemc | my main two accounts are on the same battle.net account so that won't work |
| 05:35.01 | mckenziemc | can't friend yourself, and the characters are mixed over faction, so i can't friend the characters directly |
| 05:35.52 | mckenziemc | right now i have both main accounts symlinked to one folder, but that means savedvars get overwritten sometimes; otoh i don't want them completely separate because syncing is a pita |
| 05:36.07 | Jamash | mckenziemc: care threshold reached, please insert quarter to continue |
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| 05:37.50 | mckenziemc | this is one reason why i try to separate the narrow problem from the wider problem, people try going on directions of thought i've already considered :p |
| 05:41.57 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
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| 05:45.47 | mckenziemc | granted, i will miss solutions that make the narrow problem irrelevant, but that's a risk i can manage |
| 05:47.36 | airtonix | inserts one lolcoin into jamash |
| 05:47.56 | bluspacecow | is that a loincloth ? |
| 05:48.01 | bluspacecow | or a lol-coin ? |
| 05:48.11 | airtonix | you need a better font |
| 05:48.11 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 05:48.33 | airtonix | bluspacecow: comicsans is just not cutting it for you |
| 05:48.52 | bluspacecow | no not reall |
| 05:48.53 | bluspacecow | y |
| 05:49.16 | mckenziemc | 110110111011110000110101000111001010100010001010100101111110111011101010101110 |
| 05:49.21 | airtonix | me too |
| 05:49.26 | airtonix | but the door fell off |
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| 06:12.39 | Wobin | bluspacecow: where in NZ are you based? |
| 06:12.50 | bluspacecow | waikato |
| 06:13.48 | Wobin | ah north island |
| 06:13.52 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/sj4Vy.jpg |
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| 06:16.37 | Arrowmaster | oh wow, i was right about last nights Castle being epic, too bad it fucking ended on a cliffhanger though |
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| 06:21.48 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a connection reset by peer. |
| 06:22.25 | ccox | sigh, got removed from a group by a clueless tank |
| 06:22.33 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 06:22.35 | ccox | at least I got some loot before that |
| 06:23.20 | Cairenn | comforts ccox |
| 06:23.45 | ccox | he probably would have wiped a few times on the next boss anyway |
| 06:24.09 | ccox | took bad shortcuts, pulled extra mobs, didn't look at his group composition, never CC'd |
| 06:24.33 | ccox | kinda guy who gives tanks a bad name |
| 06:25.01 | ccox | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:25.05 | mckenziemc | i'm assuming those are the tank's claims and not what actually happened |
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| 06:26.23 | nebula169 | cc is a crutch |
| 06:26.46 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:26.51 | Cairenn | hugs ccox |
| 06:27.46 | ccox | no, that's what the tank did |
| 06:28.17 | ccox | the worst he could blame me for is killing 2 bosses when he died by failing to observe the mechanics |
| 06:28.31 | ccox | (and I'm on a mage) |
| 06:28.40 | mckenziemc | ah, your use of an emote confused me : / |
| 06:32.45 | mckenziemc | is the channel's pastebin broken or is the issue on my end |
| 06:37.32 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 06:37.34 | bluspacecow | whats the link ? |
| 06:37.44 | mckenziemc | wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 06:37.58 | bluspacecow | "Could not connect to MySQL server!" |
| 06:38.22 | bluspacecow | some thing for pastey.net too |
| 06:39.05 | bluspacecow | pastebin.com is up |
| 06:39.16 | cogwheel | hugs ccox |
| 06:39.29 | cogwheel | i've had to tank by proxy the last few times i dpsed |
| 06:39.35 | mckenziemc | http://paste.wowace.com/3284/ <- why is an email that has nothing to do with mine listed in the To: line? (the one on top is mine) |
| 06:40.00 | ccox | cogwheel: I'm sort of used to tanking on my warlock (just because it draws so much aggro) |
| 06:40.12 | ccox | but on the mage, not so much |
| 06:40.26 | mckenziemc | i realize a lot of the content in emal can be spoofed, but based on the naming, i would guess the sender specifies To and the server figures out Delivered-To -- but that would mean google redirected it to the wrong destination |
| 06:40.30 | ccox | fortunately, I'm frost, and have a few options |
| 06:40.43 | cogwheel | i end up doing a lot of teaching 'cause i'd rather finish a run than be a bitch |
| 06:40.44 | mckenziemc | (it's a spam email btw) |
| 06:40.57 | cogwheel | at least assuming people are willing to learn |
| 06:41.07 | ccox | cogwheel: I try, and either they don't learn, or they still think I'm a bitch |
| 06:41.26 | mckenziemc | yeah, too much of that attitude in the general population : / |
| 06:41.41 | cogwheel | i've had pretty good luck |
| 06:41.51 | mckenziemc | otoh there are too many people who try to "teach" but don't know how (i'm assuming you're _not_ one of that group though) |
| 06:42.05 | cogwheel | i usually patiently wipe a few times before tossing out the occasional suggestion |
| 06:42.19 | cogwheel | eventually mention my main's a tank |
| 06:43.11 | cogwheel | by the end i've either switched specs and am tanking or i am basically calling all the shots |
| 06:43.15 | cogwheel | >< |
| 06:44.17 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 06:44.21 | cogwheel | (the former being extra annoying... i sat through a 30 minute precisely because i'm lazy and trying to zone out) |
| 06:44.35 | cogwheel | 30 minute queue* |
| 06:44.37 | karl_w_w | is it cakehole, cake hole or cake-hole? |
| 06:45.05 | mckenziemc | none of the above |
| 06:45.11 | cogwheel | pie hole |
| 06:46.18 | karl_w_w | foreigners |
| 06:47.39 | mckenziemc | aliens |
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| 06:48.26 | karl_w_w | hippo-giraffe hybrid monsters |
| 06:48.42 | karl_w_w | the deadly hipporaffe is coming to get you |
| 06:49.11 | cogwheel | so, i work at a california winery. that implies certain things about foreigners..... One day the vineyard workers were spraying pesticide, so they had to wear protective suits. Looked kinda like space suits. We had aliens in space suits spraying chemicals on our grape vines... |
| 06:49.28 | cogwheel | is glad there's no hell |
| 06:49.33 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 06:51.12 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 06:51.26 | cogwheel | Logitech G700, Fisker |
| 06:51.36 | cogwheel | THAT'S 100x my old mouse!!! |
| 06:52.11 | Fisker | no |
| 06:52.30 | Shirik | fisk |
| 06:52.31 | Shirik | er |
| 06:52.34 | Shirik | wtf where did he go |
| 06:55.13 | Shirik | just used his second "forever" stamp |
| 06:55.23 | Shirik | I bought 12 forever stamps like a year ago |
| 06:55.26 | Shirik | but I never mail anything |
| 06:55.34 | Shirik | So I saved 3 cents by holding onto them for a year :D |
| 06:55.43 | cogwheel | i have a shot glass full of them in front of me |
| 06:56.51 | Shirik | I can't believe I actually had to mail something |
| 06:57.26 | cogwheel | couldn't fedex it? |
| 06:57.58 | karl_w_w | what's a forever stamp? |
| 06:58.25 | cogwheel | they don't have a face value |
| 06:58.33 | cogwheel | they're always good for 1st class letters |
| 06:58.46 | cogwheel | they print them right before a rate change |
| 06:59.24 | karl_w_w | so why dont people buy all their stamps then? :P |
| 06:59.31 | cogwheel | a lot do |
| 07:00.07 | cogwheel | we bought 200 a couple years ago |
| 07:00.17 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 07:00.44 | cogwheel | but we have a house so we find uses for them a bit more often than we might otherwise :P |
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| 07:01.03 | cogwheel | probably last us into our 30s though >< |
| 07:01.09 | Wobin | cc is not a crutch =P |
| 07:01.21 | Wobin | cc helps no matter where it's used |
| 07:01.43 | Wobin | (in 95% of situations) |
| 07:02.53 | BryghtShadow | CC is fun :) |
| 07:03.01 | Wobin | as a healer, I <3 CC |
| 07:03.12 | BryghtShadow | "Ok, lock, go banish, fear and seduce, kthx" |
| 07:03.21 | Shirik | cogwheel: I could, but it would probably cost more :P |
| 07:03.24 | Wobin | anything that makes your healer's life easier cannot be considered a crutch |
| 07:03.24 | cogwheel | one 5% example being a pack of mobs that start the fight damaged + polymorph |
| 07:03.32 | karl_w_w | why do people say cc is a crutch |
| 07:03.37 | karl_w_w | that's ridiculous |
| 07:03.41 | BryghtShadow | Coz they haven't tasted Cataclysm |
| 07:03.41 | Wobin | does Sheep heal, still? |
| 07:03.48 | BryghtShadow | I think so |
| 07:03.50 | karl_w_w | by the same reckoning you could say healers are a crutch |
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| 07:03.53 | karl_w_w | and yes sheep does |
| 07:04.11 | Wobin | karl_w_w: with some pug tanks I've had, they -do- think healers are a crutch |
| 07:04.26 | Wobin | of course, when they faceplant from getting flattened, who do they blame? |
| 07:04.41 | BryghtShadow | Everyone but themselves :) |
| 07:04.43 | Wobin | it's not -their- fault because they overpulled |
| 07:05.02 | Wobin | I usually reply "O |
| 07:05.06 | Wobin | "I'm so sorry." |
| 07:05.13 | Wobin | "I couldn't hear you over how awesome you said you were" |
| 07:05.23 | BryghtShadow | Nice one XD |
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| 07:12.13 | mckenziemc | Wobin: yeah, polymorph still heals the target |
| 07:12.42 | karl_w_w | always the slow one ey mckenziemc? :P |
| 07:12.57 | Wobin | eh, most of the time that's fine. |
| 07:13.08 | Wobin | if it's the last one to die, it's health isn't so much of an issue |
| 07:13.22 | karl_w_w | i dont know why i only just though of this |
| 07:13.36 | Wobin | even in that one instance where you drake them down first |
| 07:13.54 | karl_w_w | but if you have say, 300 ping, and you dispel yourself right before a polymorph lands, will it dispel it? |
| 07:13.59 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: i was confirming |
| 07:14.11 | Wobin | no |
| 07:14.22 | Wobin | karl_w_w: I work with 500+ ping, and it's never had that sort of effect =P |
| 07:14.36 | karl_w_w | well its not like 2 things cant happen |
| 07:15.01 | karl_w_w | ive silenced someone many times, only to have the fear they were casting still hit me |
| 07:15.05 | karl_w_w | and things like that |
| 07:15.10 | Wobin | you'd get back a 'you cannot cast that now' |
| 07:15.23 | karl_w_w | why? |
| 07:15.25 | mckenziemc | isn't that the trick that spriests use to counter polys? SW:D |
| 07:15.29 | karl_w_w | you've already cast it |
| 07:15.36 | Wobin | probably some optimisation with self casting |
| 07:15.45 | karl_w_w | there has always been a delay on the sw:d damage mckenziemc |
| 07:15.48 | karl_w_w | not related to lag |
| 07:15.59 | Wobin | the damage hits you after it hits the target |
| 07:15.59 | mckenziemc | orly |
| 07:16.06 | Wobin | not at the same time |
| 07:16.26 | mckenziemc | define "after" |
| 07:16.37 | Wobin | 'after enough' =) |
| 07:16.38 | karl_w_w | the delay is tangible |
| 07:17.13 | Wobin | at least 'after' means 'not simultaneously' |
| 07:17.22 | mckenziemc | i'll have to take a look after i do finish this liita stuff |
| 07:17.23 | Wobin | which is generally enough, it seems, for polymorph |
| 07:17.41 | Wobin | you cast SW:D at the same time as the poly goes off |
| 07:17.46 | Wobin | they take damage, you morph |
| 07:17.54 | Wobin | next, you take damage, and pop the sheep |
| 07:18.00 | Shirik | I just got a coupon from UPS |
| 07:18.05 | Shirik | "20% off all services" |
| 07:18.10 | Shirik | I'm like "cool that could save a lot actually" |
| 07:18.14 | Shirik | look at fine print |
| 07:18.17 | Shirik | "Excludes shipping" |
| 07:18.18 | mckenziemc | services Shirik |
| 07:18.20 | Shirik | really? |
| 07:18.21 | Wobin | ... |
| 07:18.29 | karl_w_w | er |
| 07:18.38 | karl_w_w | UPS does something else? |
| 07:18.39 | Blu|Shower | its for their hot escort service obviously |
| 07:18.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 07:18.56 | Shirik | they do do quite a few things |
| 07:18.59 | Wobin | get a hot ups delivery person to your door for 20% off their services! |
| 07:19.00 | Shirik | but obviously their real use is shipping |
| 07:19.58 | karl_w_w | you should come back to them and say |
| 07:20.09 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 07:20.17 | karl_w_w | "why doesn't my voucher work? my package isnt going on a ship!" |
| 07:20.59 | Shirik | !!!!!!!!! |
| 07:21.01 | Shirik | UPS lied to me! |
| 07:21.06 | Shirik | They said my package would arrive on Monday |
| 07:21.16 | Shirik | The receiver is on a holiday. Delivery will be attempted when the receiver returns. / Package will be delivered next business day. |
| 07:21.24 | Shirik | I demand they force Canon to open up and accept my package |
| 07:22.03 | karl_w_w | holiday! |
| 07:22.07 | karl_w_w | how do they know that |
| 07:22.09 | karl_w_w | stalkers |
| 07:23.22 | mitch0 | moo |
| 07:23.39 | mckenziemc | brands mitch0 |
| 07:23.47 | karl_w_w | shoots mitch0 |
| 07:23.55 | karl_w_w | steak for dinner boys |
| 07:24.17 | Bluspacecow | yay |
| 07:25.38 | Xyphoid | man, 65 dead at home :/ |
| 07:26.17 | karl_w_w | beats dying while out and about |
| 07:27.46 | Bluspacecow | in christchrch xphoid ? |
| 07:27.48 | Jamash | I plan on living forever |
| 07:28.01 | Bluspacecow | there can be only one Jamash |
| 07:28.01 | mckenziemc | ruins Jamash's plans |
| 07:28.12 | Xyphoid | i live there, we're on holiday this week though |
| 07:28.25 | Jamash | Bluspacecow: not like that |
| 07:28.36 | Jamash | also there's already only one Jamash |
| 07:28.43 | Jamash | so there |
| 07:30.08 | Bluspacecow | i was thinking Highlander |
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| 07:30.22 | Bluspacecow | *hands sword to Jamash* |
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| 07:31.38 | Jamash | I'm more of a lowlander |
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| 07:33.54 | cogwheel | The news made me want kiwi jello |
| 07:34.12 | cogwheel | but it turns out kiwi has an enzyme that keeps gelatin from setting |
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| 07:41.53 | kapipi | You mean you cant make gel from people from New Zealand? |
| 07:42.09 | Bluspacecow | i send you gel |
| 07:42.19 | Bluspacecow | its 5 yrs old but its made in NZ! |
| 07:43.16 | cogwheel | jello is jiggly |
| 07:43.23 | Bluspacecow | giggity |
| 07:43.48 | cogwheel | and so is NZ |
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| 07:44.15 | Bluspacecow | hmm |
| 07:44.17 | Bluspacecow | i need eats |
| 07:44.22 | Bluspacecow | *eats cogwheel* |
| 07:44.26 | Bluspacecow | get in ma belly! |
| 07:44.53 | cogwheel | gnome h8r! |
| 07:45.36 | Bluspacecow | but yr so tasty |
| 07:45.37 | Bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:45.43 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 07:45.43 | purl | ~pong |
| 07:45.49 | cogwheel | cows are tastier |
| 07:46.17 | mckenziemc | ~echo @echo Shirik: ping |
| 07:46.17 | purl | @echo Shirik: ping |
| 07:46.18 | Repo | Shirik: ping |
| 07:46.47 | Shirik | that is an inappropriate response to a ping request |
| 07:46.48 | cogwheel | likes where this is headed |
| 07:47.09 | Bluspacecow | ~ping |
| 07:47.09 | purl | ~pong |
| 07:47.14 | Bluspacecow | ~pong |
| 07:47.15 | purl | ~ping |
| 07:47.55 | karl_w_w | blu loves his sport |
| 07:47.59 | Shirik | I just realized how incredibly worthless the media is |
| 07:48.05 | Bluspacecow | hmm |
| 07:48.08 | Bluspacecow | votes |
| 07:48.15 | Bluspacecow | shall i order pizza tonights ? |
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| 07:50.16 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 07:50.24 | ccox | Gee, when they said "self injury videos on youtube" I figured they just meant skarboard wipeouts and Palin opening her mouth |
| 07:50.34 | ccox | s/skarboard/skateboard/ |
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| 07:57.37 | mckenziemc | Bluspacecow: what do you want pizza for? we've already got gnome and steak |
| 07:58.32 | Bluspacecow | i is hungry |
| 07:58.39 | Bluspacecow | too hungry to wait for pizza .. .brb |
| 07:59.29 | Shirik | I think I will go to sleep now |
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| 08:00.46 | mckenziemc | well now that's interesting |
| 08:00.59 | mckenziemc | i technically bought items from the lovely merchant _after_ it despawned |
| 08:01.19 | mckenziemc | but i was lagging when i clicked and teh client thought they were still there, and the server complied |
| 08:01.39 | mckenziemc | (the merchants had despawned in the wow window that _wasn't_ lagging |
| 08:01.51 | Jamash | tiem paradox? |
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| 08:04.25 | karl_w_w | so what your saying mckenziemc is you're a dirty evil exploiter? |
| 08:05.56 | mckenziemc | yes :) |
| 08:06.12 | airtonix | reported |
| 08:06.38 | mckenziemc | deported |
| 08:06.56 | Bluspacecow | supported |
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| 08:07.49 | airtonix | cat |
| 08:07.57 | Bluspacecow | rat |
| 08:08.05 | BryghtShadow | bat |
| 08:08.16 | cogwheel | wat |
| 08:08.23 | Bluspacecow | vat |
| 08:08.36 | BryghtShadow | pat |
| 08:10.25 | mckenziemc | aww zoning made the items disappear |
| 08:15.26 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 08:15.31 | Fisker | christchurch blew up again |
| 08:15.41 | Bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 08:16.03 | airtonix | people from easter island came to visit |
| 08:16.08 | airtonix | and got all up in that shiz |
| 08:16.16 | Bluspacecow | 65 dead fisker :( |
| 08:16.59 | Fisker | Watching http://www.christchurchquakemap.co.nz/ suddenly became unfunny :( |
| 08:21.49 | Fisker | btw even danes dead Bluspacecow :( |
| 08:21.54 | Fisker | or missing atleast |
| 08:21.57 | Bluspacecow | who ? |
| 08:22.00 | Fisker | idk |
| 08:22.36 | Fisker | "a little handful" :o |
| 08:24.45 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 08:24.48 | mckenziemc | i once urinated |
| 08:25.07 | kapipi | Danish residents or visitors? |
| 08:26.06 | Fisker | they don't say |
| 08:26.25 | mitch0 | 4862 quakes? that's a lot... |
| 08:27.29 | kapipi | Danish news just say "missing" |
| 08:27.32 | kapipi | "just" |
| 08:27.42 | Fisker | that's what i said kapipi |
| 08:28.23 | Fisker | It's a regular quakecon down there mitch0 |
| 08:30.19 | Fisker | anyway nevcairiel |
| 08:30.21 | Fisker | i need you now |
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| 08:35.05 | airtonix | injects Fisker with sedatives |
| 08:38.07 | Xinhuan | hmm when did wowhead start adding wowhead achievements |
| 08:38.14 | Bluspacecow | thats a laxative airtonix |
| 08:39.23 | Xinhuan | haven't visited it for a while lol |
| 08:39.31 | Xinhuan | i'm at (1, 7, 57)! |
| 08:39.42 | Bluspacecow | not sure when they put that in xiny |
| 08:39.47 | Bluspacecow | check the blog ? |
| 08:39.51 | Jamash | I'm at (turned them off) |
| 08:40.07 | airtonix | yeah cause you're so ugly |
| 08:40.36 | Xinhuan | Feb 9 |
| 08:40.37 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 08:49.39 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/lZd0q.jpg |
| 08:51.29 | Bluspacecow | whats the middle answer ? |
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| 08:51.53 | airtonix | for a start my fsck doesn't have a -f switch |
| 08:52.21 | airtonix | and secondly i wasn't aware that a file system checker was supposed to provide driver formatting function |
| 08:53.19 | airtonix | http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/fptwc/watson_linux_basics/ |
| 08:55.58 | BryghtShadow | Sigh, Baradin Hold just dropped 2 of the same hunter glove... |
| 08:56.56 | airtonix | lawl |
| 08:57.05 | airtonix | ~google "linux format hard drive" |
| 08:57.12 | airtonix | :( |
| 08:57.15 | airtonix | anyway |
| 08:57.18 | airtonix | first result |
| 08:57.23 | Jamash | mkfs, duh |
| 08:57.35 | airtonix | Finalizing the Format With fsck : step 2 |
| 08:57.42 | Jamash | also you don't format a hard drive, you format a partition |
| 08:57.47 | airtonix | At the command prompt, type "fsck -f -y /dev/hdb1", again replacing hdb1 with the letters and number for your partition. |
| 08:57.51 | airtonix | dude |
| 08:58.16 | airtonix | whoever made the questions on that show, fails at google too |
| 08:59.58 | karl_w_w | why do women talk in such a weird way |
| 09:00.03 | karl_w_w | airtonix you must know |
| 09:00.11 | karl_w_w | they never get to the point |
| 09:00.22 | Bluspacecow | for airtonix is a women |
| 09:00.26 | Bluspacecow | and should know |
| 09:00.32 | karl_w_w | airtonix is many women |
| 09:00.40 | Jamash | airtonix is all things, to all people |
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| 09:01.20 | Jamash | karl_w_w: I think what you mean is they talk about things that don't interest you while you're waiting to talk to them about things that don't interest them |
| 09:01.30 | karl_w_w | no not at all |
| 09:01.49 | karl_w_w | it cant be that because i dont have anything to talk to them about that im waiting for :P |
| 09:02.25 | karl_w_w | they're telling you something and they have to add details in |
| 09:02.29 | karl_w_w | that are completely useless |
| 09:02.41 | karl_w_w | or they'll basically repeat themselves |
| 09:02.58 | Jamash | that's nice, dear |
| 09:03.08 | karl_w_w | exactly |
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| 09:04.26 | Bluspacecow | fisker |
| 09:05.07 | Torhal | Bluspacecow: You wouldn't Fisker. |
| 09:05.20 | Bluspacecow | i wanna cookie |
| 09:05.23 | Bluspacecow | i can has cookie ? |
| 09:05.45 | Torhal | uses a nail gun to fill Fisker with chocolate chips. |
| 09:06.07 | Jamash | uses a chocolate gun to fill Torhal with nails. |
| 09:06.24 | Torhal | applies thermite to Jamash's kneecaps. |
| 09:08.52 | Jamash | you realize thermite doesn't actually explode, right? |
| 09:09.05 | airtonix | who said it would |
| 09:09.17 | Jamash | http://img.moonbuggy.org/exploding-knees/ |
| 09:09.25 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 09:09.34 | Jamash | Strong Mad |
| 09:11.49 | airtonix | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/fpusd/ups_masters_of_package_stealth/?sort=old |
| 09:14.07 | Fisker | Bluspacecow |
| 09:14.21 | Bluspacecow | i can has cookie ? |
| 09:15.23 | Fisker | you can has nerve gas |
| 09:16.14 | Jamash | why doesn't windows have a built-in update mechanism for software |
| 09:16.30 | Jamash | oh I know because that would make sense and be useful |
| 09:16.42 | Bluspacecow | it does |
| 09:16.44 | Bluspacecow | it just sucks |
| 09:16.57 | Jamash | I mean non-microsoft software |
| 09:17.05 | airtonix | yeah LOL |
| 09:17.14 | Jamash | show me how to add a third-party repository to windows update |
| 09:17.16 | airtonix | that'll be the day |
| 09:17.34 | Fisker | just pay microsoft a lot of money Jamash |
| 09:17.38 | Fisker | i'm sure they'll do it then |
| 09:17.56 | Bluspacecow | my apologies Jamash |
| 09:18.04 | airtonix | yo biatch! i monetized apt-get! |
| 09:18.30 | Jamash | so instead the java update notifier notifies me that there's an update, and then windows asks me for permission to run the updater, and then the updater downloads the update installer, and then it asks me for permission to run the update, and then it asks if I want to install some random crap, then it actually installs the update |
| 09:18.33 | airtonix | Fisker: developers, developers, developers! |
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| 09:18.40 | Torhal | ties Fisker and airtonix together by the heads, then shoots them through the hands. |
| 09:18.59 | Fisker | anyway Jamash |
| 09:19.01 | Fisker | Windows 8 |
| 09:19.04 | Fisker | watch the fuck out |
| 09:19.09 | Jamash | I admit, java is at the center of a particularly strong nexus of fail |
| 09:19.15 | airtonix | ima kill you |
| 09:19.18 | kapipi | To be fair installing Sun java on linux also brings up a box where you have to accept the licence agreement. |
| 09:19.26 | Fisker | although they'll probably have the same "We hate open source software"-clause :( |
| 09:19.46 | airtonix | paragraph eight section four |
| 09:20.22 | Jamash | oracle fails so hard that the force of attraction of their fail absorbed sun's fail to create a vortex of failure so strong no win can emerge |
| 09:20.49 | Jamash | similarly with adobe and macromedia |
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| 09:33.04 | airtonix | lawl "My UPS guy did this with a fridge. ie, put the doormat on top of the fridge." |
| 09:34.33 | Fisker | so that thieves couldn't spot it and steal it? |
| 09:34.50 | airtonix | indeed |
| 09:38.07 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0-qPkpeWWg |
| 09:41.49 | airtonix | http://9.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/9/6/collegehumor.8e7443d9b68a12d28bb4bb369bf79311.jpg |
| 09:41.53 | airtonix | http://9.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/d/c/collegehumor.3cb74bcd1f839cb24c038e3c337426b3.jpg |
| 09:48.32 | Fisker | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/february/bgwinsalltime.png <-misleading charts ftw |
| 09:50.32 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 09:51.11 | karl_w_w | i dont believe that ioc chart :P |
| 09:51.26 | karl_w_w | i find it difficult to lose ioc as alliance |
| 09:52.21 | karl_w_w | ive played 142 iocs and lost 20 of them :D |
| 09:52.45 | Bluspacecow | and won 122 ? |
| 09:53.31 | karl_w_w | yep |
| 09:53.41 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/larwood/statistic#21:153 |
| 09:55.29 | Fisker | http://hardocp.com/images/articles/1010877282OXBx7YcoJk_3_3.gif <-see how the Geforce 2 is 3 times as fast as the voodoo5? |
| 09:55.42 | karl_w_w | ioc is the only bg where i think alliance has a slight strategic advantage |
| 09:56.27 | karl_w_w | fps in what Fisker? |
| 09:57.24 | zenzio | 25 Fiskers per second |
| 09:57.48 | mckenziemc | oh god |
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| 10:22.00 | mckenziemc | "NOTE: All bugs should now be eradicated" |
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| 10:23.00 | mckenziemc | at the tone, pacific standard time will be 2:22 AM, 2/22/2011.... beeeep |
| 10:29.18 | airtonix | 11 years till skynet matures |
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| 10:34.52 | Jamash | Fisker: oh man I hate charts with non-zero baselines |
| 10:36.33 | mckenziemc | wonders how long it will take for someone to complain on blizzard's forums "OMFG MMO-CHAMP JUST PROVED HORDE WINS TWICE AS MUCH!!!!11!!" |
| 10:37.56 | Jamash | 'cept in av |
| 10:38.03 | Jamash | which has always favored alliance |
| 10:40.20 | mckenziemc | i'd like to see a breakdown of those results by battlegroup though, to see how much variance there is |
| 10:41.18 | jnwhiteh | aye\ |
| 10:41.25 | jnwhiteh | would make for much more interesting statistics |
| 10:41.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:41.42 | Fisker | i'm mad jnwhiteh |
| 10:41.48 | Jamash | as hell |
| 10:42.08 | Fisker | i would never Jamash |
| 10:43.03 | jnwhiteh | kk |
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| 10:44.30 | Fisker | my memory is like "lol u mad?" |
| 10:44.51 | Fisker | so i need new memory |
| 10:45.07 | Fisker | but the only shit i can find that's 100% compatible would probably impale my case |
| 10:45.30 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 10:45.47 | Fisker | do those fins actually serve any useful purpose, i.e. are they even nessecary? |
| 10:46.16 | airtonix | they make me go faster |
| 10:49.13 | Fisker | i'm considering water cooling since apparently memory heatsinks are supposed to eclipse CPU heatsinks |
| 10:50.03 | Jamash | just fill your case with jell-o |
| 10:52.47 | Fisker | i'll fill your case with my junk |
| 10:53.01 | Jamash | I don't have a case that small |
| 10:53.07 | mckenziemc | nice one |
| 10:55.10 | Fisker | i know Jamash |
| 10:55.24 | Fisker | *smiles* |
| 10:55.49 | Jamash | <creepy music> |
| 10:56.01 | Bluspacecow | *listens* |
| 10:56.08 | Bluspacecow | its the adams family theme song |
| 10:56.24 | Jamash | that's not really very creepy |
| 10:57.17 | mckenziemc | it is when you're spying on Bluspacecow through closed-circuit TV at the time |
| 10:57.34 | mckenziemc | oh wait did i just say that out loud? |
| 10:57.35 | zenzio | you want creepy, go listen to "Rosa helikopter" |
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| 11:01.57 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:04.25 | mckenziemc | are there any equipment set managers that let you edit sets without actually equipping them first? |
| 11:07.48 | jnwhiteh | itemrack used to afaik |
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| 11:08.55 | Fisker | i think i have an addon that can |
| 11:09.02 | Fisker | but i don't remember its name |
| 11:09.39 | krka_ | jnwhiteh: did you see that swedish university course i linked? |
| 11:09.53 | jnwhiteh | which one? |
| 11:09.59 | krka_ | http://www.umu.se/utbildning/program-kurser/kurs/?currentView=registration&code=5DV110 |
| 11:10.16 | krka_ | you should probably google translate it i guess |
| 11:10.50 | Fisker | try lushgearswap mckenziemc1 |
| 11:11.07 | Fisker | Programmering i World of Warcraft |
| 11:11.13 | Fisker | what needs to be translate krka_ ? |
| 11:11.25 | zenzio | O_o |
| 11:11.48 | zenzio | 7.5 hp, what does that mean? |
| 11:11.55 | mckenziemc1 | hah fisker, i just looked at that one |
| 11:11.59 | jnwhiteh | krka_: the guy who ran it last year contacted me about it |
| 11:12.00 | Fisker | probably school hours or some shit |
| 11:12.07 | Jamash | zenzio: seven and a half horsepower |
| 11:12.12 | jnwhiteh | we went back and forth quite a bit, it went pretty well |
| 11:12.19 | zenzio | Jamash: not in this case |
| 11:13.22 | krka_ | cool |
| 11:13.39 | jnwhiteh | In C, if you have an int a set to a value and b is a *int with a reference to a.. can you alter a using b? |
| 11:14.00 | Jamash | bonks jnwhiteh over the head with a tutorial |
| 11:14.25 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 11:14.40 | airtonix | pulls the rug out from under jnwhiteh |
| 11:14.40 | Jamash | sighs |
| 11:14.48 | krka_ | yes |
| 11:14.53 | krka_ | assuming b = &a |
| 11:15.03 | jnwhiteh | interesting.. you can't using Go |
| 11:15.05 | jnwhiteh | that's why I ask |
| 11:15.17 | jnwhiteh | its a bit of a subtle point I missed when I was writing this section before |
| 11:15.21 | krka_ | c is a wrapper around machine code, go is a programming language :P |
| 11:15.26 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:15.32 | airtonix | lulz |
| 11:15.58 | jnwhiteh | krka_: come to the Lua Workshop 2011 that I'm hosting! |
| 11:16.02 | jnwhiteh | kk? |
| 11:16.59 | Jamash | c doesn't even do that well |
| 11:17.17 | krka_ | where? |
| 11:17.29 | jnwhiteh | oxford |
| 11:17.53 | krka_ | that's reasonably close i guess |
| 11:18.07 | Jamash | if I add two integers in machine code and I want to know if there was overflow, I check the overflow bit |
| 11:18.19 | krka_ | i'll need sponsoring though, maybe i can convince my employer |
| 11:18.24 | Jamash | if I add two integers in c and I want to know if there was overflow, I cry softly to myself |
| 11:18.36 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 11:20.42 | airtonix | sweet! |
| 11:20.52 | jnwhiteh | krka_: i hope to have an announcement in the next week or so with dates and such |
| 11:20.53 | airtonix | makes Jamash add two integers in c |
| 11:21.13 | Bluspacecow | *makes Jamash a delicious cupcake in c* |
| 11:21.17 | airtonix | the suspense! |
| 11:21.22 | krka_ | i'll have to persuade spotify that they have some sort of interest in sending me there |
| 11:21.30 | zenzio | messed up airtonix' instruction pointer |
| 11:21.41 | Jamash | divides airtonix by zero |
| 11:22.23 | jnwhiteh | krka_: ah, I didn't know you were in Spotify |
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| 11:22.41 | jnwhiteh | krka_: do they use Lua internally at all? If they send you to give a talk, I can probably give them so logo-whoring :P |
| 11:22.58 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure we can come to some sort of an agreement |
| 11:23.08 | Bluspacecow | you're going to walk around covered in nothing but their logos ? |
| 11:23.11 | Jamash | GET A ROOM |
| 11:23.15 | krka_ | i am not sure if i am at liberty to deny or confirm usage of lua |
| 11:23.23 | jnwhiteh | thats fine |
| 11:23.29 | airtonix | so that's a yes |
| 11:23.34 | jnwhiteh | we can talk later in euphemistic terms :P |
| 11:23.36 | krka_ | but if you send me link to the announcement i can ask |
| 11:23.50 | zenzio | most of the time when people say they "can't confirm or deny", it means "yes" |
| 11:24.02 | jnwhiteh | krka_: will do |
| 11:24.07 | krka_ | i can't confirm or deny that it means yes |
| 11:24.14 | airtonix | are you thinking what i'm thinking ? |
| 11:24.14 | krka_ | Well, I think so, airtonix, but first you'd have to take that whole bridge apart, wouldn't you? |
| 11:25.11 | Jamash | I can neither confirm nor deny baseless speculation about whether I am or am not a spacegoing monitor lizard |
| 11:26.47 | Jamash | I also can neither confirm nor deny that Fisker once killed a guy |
| 11:27.12 | Bluspacecow | spacegoat ? |
| 11:27.13 | krka_ | i can confirm that i have never actually seen any lua source in our codebase yet |
| 11:27.47 | Jamash | I can, however, confirm that it is past my bedtime |
| 11:28.35 | Bluspacecow | illogical jamash |
| 11:28.42 | Bluspacecow | bed time is defined as being in bed |
| 11:28.46 | Bluspacecow | is you in bed |
| 11:30.47 | mckenziemc | why bluespacecow, do you want to be in bed (with him) too? |
| 11:33.41 | Bluspacecow | maybe |
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| 11:43.00 | karl_w_w | let's all get in bed with jamash |
| 11:43.17 | Bluspacecow | ill get the beer |
| 11:43.24 | Bluspacecow | someone grab the pizza |
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| 12:40.30 | Bluspacecow | "And Jesus found a young ass, and sat upon it" John 12:14 |
| 12:40.37 | Bluspacecow | hot dog go Jesus you playa you ! |
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| 12:48.55 | mckenziemc | <.< |
| 12:50.58 | Bluspacecow | theres a statue of liberty looking sculture half buried at Ironban's excavation site |
| 12:52.12 | karl_w_w | you bastards! |
| 13:07.39 | mckenziemc | improperly "kems" Fisker. |
| 13:20.46 | BryghtShadow | :| servers are now down, sigh |
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| 13:21.20 | mckenziemc | it's just restartss; mine's back up already |
| 13:22.51 | karl_w_w | traps mckenziemc in a pyroclastic flow |
| 13:25.57 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 13:27.21 | Fisker | http://viralemailhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surprise-balloons.gif |
| 13:27.49 | karl_w_w | your favourite type of balloon? |
| 13:29.37 | Bluspacecow | won't be getting back on mine till i do my dishes and tidy up a little |
| 13:29.42 | Fisker | slaps Bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:29.54 | Bluspacecow | hai2u fikser |
| 13:29.56 | Bluspacecow | fisker |
| 13:30.24 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a surpise balloon |
| 13:30.39 | airtonix | releases on mckenziemc |
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| 13:59.06 | zenzio | "RIFT is hardly the only MMO that offers discounts on multi-month subscriptions." - is there any MMO that *doesn't* do this? |
| 13:59.49 | karl_w_w | runescape |
| 14:00.33 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:00.35 | Fisker | i'm sad :( |
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| 14:09.21 | haste | Fisker: stop being tainted! |
| 14:10.37 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:10.39 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/LwgZT.jpg |
| 14:10.40 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:10.44 | airtonix | lol.d |
| 14:10.47 | Fisker | is this bad [Y/n]: |
| 14:10.54 | Bluspacecow | your fucked |
| 14:10.56 | airtonix | maybe |
| 14:11.07 | Fisker | YOU ARE FUCKED BLUSPACECOW LOL GRAMMAR POLICE |
| 14:11.08 | haste | I agree with airtonix |
| 14:12.00 | airtonix | btw why or how does it come to be that your ram is in such a state to begin with ? |
| 14:12.48 | karl_w_w | i agree with fikser |
| 14:13.04 | Fisker | Well apparently my motherboard was automatically setting the memory to non-spd settings |
| 14:13.09 | Fisker | i.e. overclocked the fuck up |
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| 14:13.30 | Torhal | Your motherboard is h4x, Fisker. |
| 14:13.44 | Fisker | oh it was SPD :o |
| 14:13.46 | Fisker | odd though |
| 14:13.52 | Fisker | my motherboard only reported one SPD value |
| 14:14.04 | Torhal | "Overclocked the fuck up"? |
| 14:14.17 | Fisker | i.e. running it at specifications it shouldn't |
| 14:14.25 | Fisker | though i guess it did |
| 14:14.40 | Bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.41 | Bluspacecow | there fixed |
| 14:15.23 | karl_w_w | yeah my motherboard decided to overclock my ram by about 40% the other week |
| 14:15.31 | airtonix | all up in that shiz |
| 14:15.37 | zenzio | karl_w_w: o_O |
| 14:15.48 | airtonix | warriors, come out to play |
| 14:15.55 | Fisker | i could run my old memory though i guess |
| 14:15.57 | karl_w_w | took me about half an hour of attempts just to get into the bios so i could restore defaults |
| 14:16.03 | Fisker | then i CAN BULLETSTORM THROUGH THIS DUMP |
| 14:16.11 | airtonix | no |
| 14:16.17 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:16.27 | zenzio | karl_w_w: in such a case, you could've used jumper 13 (the "Clear CMOS" or whatever it's called) |
| 14:16.44 | karl_w_w | i only have like 2 jumpers |
| 14:16.52 | airtonix | just don't mistakingly use jumper 12 |
| 14:16.52 | karl_w_w | i live in australia it doesnt get that cold |
| 14:17.09 | airtonix | or jumper 34 |
| 14:17.19 | Fisker | i once jumped 34'd you |
| 14:17.26 | airtonix | in the street? |
| 14:17.32 | airtonix | all up in that shiz |
| 14:18.09 | zenzio | karl_w_w: anyhow, using the "clear CMOS" jumper is roughly the same as loading the default BIOS |
| 14:19.01 | karl_w_w | when this happened was the time i realised i have no idea how to use my mobo's dual bios thingo |
| 14:21.13 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:22.40 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 14:23.21 | zenzio | ohai peppy |
| 14:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi to you. |
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| 14:45.29 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/ring.png |
| 14:46.21 | nevcairiel | Intellect makes you resisant to the foolish attempts of nature to trick you |
| 14:46.24 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 14:46.29 | Fisker | i can play bulletstorm again haste |
| 14:46.31 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel :( |
| 14:46.36 | Fisker | i got myself some vengeance |
| 14:46.49 | Fisker | because that's basically the only p8p67pro compliant module i could find |
| 14:47.10 | nevcairiel | screw official compliance, its just there to sell you new modules |
| 14:47.25 | Fisker | i might as well get it now i'm getting new memory |
| 14:47.55 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/LwgZT.jpg <-just ran a memtest |
| 14:47.56 | Fisker | :e |
| 14:48.05 | Fisker | and that had run for like a minute if even that |
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| 14:50.28 | Ackis | points out that the Al'Akair fight is stupidly annoying. |
| 14:50.39 | Fisker | old |
| 14:50.45 | Fisker | oh nos my bulletstorm |
| 14:50.55 | airtonix | lol.d |
| 14:51.05 | airtonix | suck my bullettime |
| 14:51.26 | Ackis | Fisker: don't you need non-red memory to play CoD:Bulletstorm? |
| 14:51.26 | Fisker | i'm mad if i still can't bulletstorm |
| 14:51.36 | Fisker | CoD:Bulletstorm? |
| 14:51.38 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 14:51.52 | Ackis | only review of it I saw was that it's exactly like CoD |
| 14:52.24 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 14:53.28 | Ackis | as I don't value your opinion, I'm sure you'll let me know what to think :P |
| 14:53.34 | Ackis | how do I read this chart: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-zr13e77ay39bl4l1/survivability/?enc=bosses |
| 14:54.16 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/22887/ <-zomg |
| 14:54.48 | Ackis | wait Fisker maybe I'm thinking of homefront and not bulletstorm |
| 14:54.53 | Fisker | maybe you are |
| 14:54.54 | Ackis | Generic war shooters get confused |
| 14:55.09 | Fisker | because i'm quite sure kicking people in the face is not that much of a CoD thing |
| 14:55.22 | Fisker | also throwing them in the air with a leash |
| 14:55.28 | foxlit | Ackis: guessing: percentage of the fight the person was alive for? |
| 14:55.29 | Mr_Rabies | yeah bulletstorm isn't generic |
| 14:56.16 | Mr_Rabies | they actually make fun of generic war shooters in their marketing |
| 14:56.24 | Zyn | it's sad to be in jewrope, with Bulletstorm taking 3 more days to unlock/release ... unless you got it from the US |
| 14:56.54 | Fisker | yeah i'm so much from the US |
| 14:57.01 | Fisker | *puts on a moustache* |
| 14:57.11 | Fisker | i love steam |
| 14:57.16 | Fisker | and bittorrent |
| 14:57.22 | Fisker | not so much shoddy ram though |
| 14:57.25 | mckenziemc | steam is too hot |
| 14:57.27 | mckenziemc | and wet |
| 14:57.44 | Fisker | no that's the exact thing to be |
| 14:57.46 | Fisker | hot and wet |
| 14:57.50 | Fisker | that's how we like it |
| 14:58.16 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTLHdKRX-OE |
| 14:58.20 | Ackis | foxlit: ah ok... looks like I had the second highest survivability out of the raid |
| 14:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | nsfw language and violence i guess |
| 14:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 14:58.35 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 14:58.36 | foxlit | Ackis: it's actually defined at the bottom. |
| 14:58.37 | Fisker | http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/why-gabe-newell-invented-steam1.jpg |
| 14:58.38 | Fisker | get it? |
| 14:58.40 | Fisker | GET IT?! |
| 14:58.41 | foxlit | However, it's a crap definition |
| 14:58.41 | Ackis | Fisker: are you getting darkspore? |
| 14:58.56 | Fisker | maybe Ackis |
| 14:59.01 | Fisker | want to get into the beta though :( |
| 14:59.08 | mckenziemc | kills Ackis |
| 14:59.09 | Fisker | without paying for it first or some sillyness like that |
| 14:59.30 | mckenziemc | so much for survivability eh |
| 14:59.31 | karl_w_w | crysis 2 beta on the 1st |
| 14:59.42 | Ackis | Fisker: beta is over, it reminded me of diablo |
| 14:59.44 | foxlit | [usually wipes are called rather than instant -- so past a certain level of deaths, your survival does not matter, so the difference between 95% and 100% might actually be 0 in terms of usefulness] |
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| 15:00.00 | Ackis | foxlit: yeah but the diff from 70% -> 90% shows a lot |
| 15:00.02 | Mr_Rabies | and the bulletstorm guys made this for marketing bulletstorm (duty calls is a free "game" for pc) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ARGOdp6nIo |
| 15:00.49 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 15:00.52 | Fisker | beta isn't over |
| 15:01.00 | Fisker | also fuck you for not giving me beta access |
| 15:01.03 | Ackis | I thought it was for 3 days only this weekend? |
| 15:01.16 | Fisker | they just announced a open beta will start soon |
| 15:01.50 | Ackis | ah |
| 15:02.55 | Fisker | haha oh god Mr_Rabies |
| 15:03.16 | Mr_Rabies | nuclear missile bomb |
| 15:03.54 | Mr_Rabies | b-b-b-BLOODY SCREEN! SO REAAAL! |
| 15:04.20 | Ackis | Fisker: http://elsmar.com/pdf_files/hurt%20feelings%20report.jpeg |
| 15:04.21 | Fisker | oh that's what it said :P |
| 15:04.25 | Fisker | i thought it was "bloody scream" |
| 15:05.41 | Fisker | i will now attempt playing a game |
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| 15:11.41 | Ackis | hey Fisker http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind click that :P |
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| 15:25.08 | Kraps|work | shit happens in 3s right? last night half the power in the house went out; this morning my wheelchair stopped working; cant wait to see what #3 is! |
| 15:25.42 | mckenziemc | : / |
| 15:26.00 | Kraps|work | rages |
| 15:27.03 | Cairenn | hugs Kraps |
| 15:27.54 | Kraps|work | hugs Cairenn back |
| 15:28.01 | Cairenn | there's your 3rd bad thing, now you're safe ;) |
| 15:28.21 | mckenziemc | do i get a hug? |
| 15:28.37 | Cairenn | hugs everyone else, too |
| 15:28.47 | mckenziemc | yay! |
| 15:29.03 | Kraps|work | lol |
| 15:36.37 | Ackis | Shirik, Cide, Stanzilla: http://www.wowhead.com/profile=22874211 BiS non-heroic raid gear? |
| 15:40.29 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 15:40.33 | Fisker | however i played bulletstorm |
| 15:41.26 | Lopeppeppy | huggles the whole whole channel. |
| 15:41.37 | Fisker | AHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 15:41.43 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, did some power surge harm the wheelchair? Was it plugged in at the time? |
| 15:41.45 | Kraps|work | commit any horrible crimes yet Fisker? |
| 15:41.50 | Fisker | Destructoid is now reporting that not only have those tinkerers found a way to unban themselves, but that they can in turn ban any other console they want. There's apparently a catch, though, with the hackers having to know the unique ID assigned to the other console that they'll be banning, which makes this sound like perhaps the hack is simply swapping a "good" ID onto a "bad" console |
| 15:43.10 | Kraps|work | Lopeppeppy: no and no |
| 15:43.13 | Dagmar | I'm thinking it might be time to pay the electric company. |
| 15:43.31 | Kraps|work | just a happy crapstorm |
| 15:44.07 | mikma | tem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KojqM5r6Q |
| 15:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | Damn. That sucketh, verily. I'm sorry. |
| 15:44.43 | Kraps|work | Dagmar: electric companies dont tend to cut HALF the power to every house on the block :p |
| 15:48.27 | Dagmar | Pfft. Must be nice wherever you life. |
| 15:48.29 | Dagmar | er live |
| 15:48.46 | Dagmar | Here they're occasionally prone to things like that |
| 15:49.11 | Dagmar | I've actually seen 80v coming out of every outlet in the house, twice in my lifetime |
| 15:49.24 | Kraps|work | :/ |
| 15:51.46 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 15:51.48 | Fisker | Kraps|work |
| 15:51.49 | karl_w_w | Bibi: who compiled that BG win ratio thing? a lot of us are wondering what they look like on a per battlegroup basis :P |
| 15:52.19 | Kraps|work | Fisker |
| 15:53.12 | mckenziemc | purl |
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| 15:57.49 | mckenziemc | "The natural radioactivity in the smoke from a coal-fired power plant is believed to be roughly 100 times as great as that from a properly operating nuclear plant with equal capacity." |
| 15:58.10 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 15:59.35 | Kraps|work | radioactivity from a coal-fired power plant? |
| 15:59.55 | nevcairiel | thats not anything new |
| 16:00.15 | nevcairiel | Kraps|work: basically the trace radioactive elements in the coal |
| 16:00.35 | Kraps|work | didnt know there was any |
| 16:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | There's trace radioactivity in everything -- hence carbon dating! |
| 16:00.58 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 16:01.31 | Fisker | even your mom Lopeppeppy ? |
| 16:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | Other elements have similar radioactive isotopes of themselves, carbon 14 is the best known due to the dating. |
| 16:01.42 | mckenziemc | radiates Fisker-particles |
| 16:01.59 | Lopeppeppy | Actually, no, Fisker. Her radioactivity went up in smoke when she was cremated, thanks for asking. |
| 16:02.05 | Fisker | Anyway i don't see the big news in that anyway |
| 16:02.22 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 16:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | The "big news" is that people need to get over being afraid of nuclear energy, really. |
| 16:03.20 | Kraps|work | hear hear! |
| 16:03.35 | Fisker | i'm liking the idea Bill Gates talked about at TED |
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| 16:04.44 | Fisker | http://www.terrapower.com/Home.aspx |
| 16:04.45 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:04.45 | karl_w_w | deforest |
| 16:04.57 | karl_w_w | damn i failed |
| 16:04.59 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 16:05.09 | mckenziemc | static |
| 16:09.04 | Kraps|work | turrrrrdmonkey |
| 16:09.35 | karl_w_w | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/facebook/egyptian-father-names-his-daughter-8220facebook-8221-after-revolution/342 |
| 16:10.12 | Bluspacecow | hai2u Loppy |
| 16:10.24 | Dagmar | Somehow I don't think he thought that one through. |
| 16:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Bluspacecow! |
| 16:13.34 | foxlit | Riddle me this: why does a weapon with 75 - 140 swing damage, and a speed of 1.50 do, according to the wow client tooltip, 71.8 dps? |
| 16:14.54 | mckenziemc | just to make sure, you mean the weapon's tooltip, not the character sheet, right? (because the latter could be explained) |
| 16:15.00 | foxlit | indeed. |
| 16:15.02 | Dagmar | Because you're the one weilding it. ;) |
| 16:15.10 | Xinhuan | well, is that wrong? |
| 16:15.24 | foxlit | Xinhuan: I'd be more inclined to answer |
| 16:15.29 | foxlit | lua> (75+140) / 1.50 / 2 |
| 16:15.30 | lua_bot | foxlit: 71.666666666667 |
| 16:15.40 | foxlit | rounded to 1 decimal, 71.7, not 71.8 |
| 16:16.06 | Xinhuan | is it a dagger? |
| 16:16.12 | foxlit | It is a dagger. |
| 16:16.26 | Xinhuan | and are you a rogue |
| 16:16.30 | foxlit | I'm not a rogue. |
| 16:16.45 | Kraps|work | ~g face |
| 16:16.57 | Xinhuan | no idea then |
| 16:17.33 | Kraps|work | does purl not do google? |
| 16:17.49 | mckenziemc | ~google Kraps|work |
| 16:18.08 | foxlit | "The reason that every major university maintains a department of mathematics is that it's cheaper than institutionalizing all those people." << Thanks, /. |
| 16:18.13 | mckenziemc | ~lmgtfy Kraps|work |
| 16:18.13 | purl | ACTION thinks you should look here: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Kraps|work |
| 16:18.21 | mckenziemc | i thought google was set too though |
| 16:18.31 | Xinhuan | were you expecting a real answer? lol |
| 16:18.53 | Xinhuan | which weapon is this btw |
| 16:19.04 | foxlit | Talon of Anzu |
| 16:19.19 | Xinhuan | whats the itemid |
| 16:19.24 | foxlit | 32781 |
| 16:19.56 | Xinhuan | hmm does indeed say 71.8 on my screen too |
| 16:20.30 | karl_w_w | there are 2 others |
| 16:20.48 | karl_w_w | 45078 & 45214 |
| 16:20.56 | Xinhuan | how did you notice the dps discrepency |
| 16:21.06 | karl_w_w | he's a mathematical mastermind |
| 16:21.36 | foxlit | Someone else complained about it. |
| 16:21.53 | foxlit | I guess part of the problem that as far as wow is concerned, DPS is not a derived value. |
| 16:21.58 | foxlit | *^is |
| 16:22.21 | Xinhuan | its probably a hardcoded tooltip, like all items tooltips are |
| 16:23.00 | Kraps|work | commit any horrible crimes yet Fisker? |
| 16:23.22 | Cide | lua> (75+140) * 3 / 4 |
| 16:23.22 | lua_bot | Cide: 161.25 |
| 16:23.27 | Cide | err |
| 16:23.39 | Cide | lua> (75+140) / (3/2) / 2 |
| 16:23.39 | lua_bot | Cide: 71.666666666667 |
| 16:23.42 | Cide | strange |
| 16:24.38 | Kraps|work | lua> 1 |
| 16:24.38 | lua_bot | Kraps|work: 1 |
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| 16:25.24 | Kraps|work | lua> Cide |
| 16:25.25 | lua_bot | Kraps|work: nil |
| 16:26.11 | karl_w_w | somewhere on the interwebs is a site with a database of web proxies that is memorable because the font used is friggin tiny and everything is in basic tables, anyone happen to remember some detail about this site that might help me google it? |
| 16:26.45 | Kraps|work | karl_w_w: kotaku? |
| 16:26.50 | Kraps|work | ~rimshot |
| 16:26.51 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 16:27.00 | karl_w_w | i dislike you |
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| 16:27.15 | psymin | karl_w_w, I remember that a site like that existed :) |
| 16:27.42 | karl_w_w | also, i wonder if lua_bot remembers things |
| 16:27.57 | psymin | I think I found it by googling open proxies |
| 16:28.51 | karl_w_w | genius |
| 16:30.02 | Ackis | I was snooping around this on the weekend but couldn't figure out the proper event... however is there an event that fires when you get the option to enter a battleground? Like BATTLEFIELD_MGR_ENTRY_INVITE fires when you can join Tol Barad/Wintergrasp but I couldn't find one for WSG/etc |
| 16:32.53 | karl_w_w | PDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS |
| 16:32.57 | karl_w_w | UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS |
| 16:33.09 | Ackis | doesn't that fire every second? |
| 16:33.31 | mckenziemc | i think so |
| 16:33.46 | karl_w_w | i think its bugged |
| 16:33.55 | karl_w_w | but that's the event you want :P |
| 16:33.58 | karl_w_w | good luck with it |
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| 16:38.24 | Xinhuan | can't you just find the appropriate static popup |
| 16:38.29 | Xinhuan | and find out which code calls it |
| 16:38.35 | Xinhuan | and figure out the event from there? |
| 16:38.43 | karl_w_w | that is the event |
| 16:39.18 | karl_w_w | the bug is why when you get the popup it'll keep making the popup noise every second, when there's a queue ready |
| 16:39.26 | Ackis | yeah it seems to rely on a Queue status function and it just polls every second... seems inefficient |
| 16:39.47 | karl_w_w | wasnt like that before |
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| 17:00.14 | Yoshimo | can i do a macro that casts does runeforging on my mainhandweapon? |
| 17:00.22 | Kraps|work | you're waiting for a train |
| 17:00.30 | A-KO | Windows 7 SP1 released |
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| 17:01.06 | Dagmar | Seriously? You need a macro for that? |
| 17:01.49 | Kraps|work | a train that will take you far away |
| 17:02.10 | Kraps|work | You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure |
| 17:02.23 | airtonix | Kraps|work: a train that arrives 4hrs late in finland |
| 17:02.34 | airtonix | o.O |
| 17:02.52 | Kraps|work | But it doesn't matter |
| 17:03.18 | Kraps|work | How can it not matter to you where that train will take you? |
| 17:05.07 | BryghtShadow | What's faster, hitting K and then selecting Runeforging or typing what I think is the correct spell.... /use Runeforging |
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| 17:07.00 | Kraps|work | BryghtShadow: put it on your actionbar |
| 17:07.44 | Yoshimo | use Runeforging is possible, i just wonder if you can select the target for the forging to the mainhand as well |
| 17:10.29 | nebula169 | prolly /use mainslotid |
| 17:10.59 | nebula169 | 16 for main, 17 for off |
| 17:12.55 | Kraps|work | Dream has become their reality. Who are you to say otherwise? |
| 17:15.16 | Fisker | hey Kraps|work |
| 17:15.18 | Fisker | butts |
| 17:15.58 | Kraps|work | you like big ones and you cannot lie Fisker? |
| 17:19.18 | Fisker | also that |
| 17:19.21 | Fisker | but more importantly |
| 17:19.25 | Fisker | a storm of bullets |
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| 17:25.00 | karl_w_w | ah, UPDATE_BATTLEFIELD_STATUS doesnt keep firing when you can enter any more |
| 17:25.15 | karl_w_w | but it still does while in queue |
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| 17:53.48 | Kraps|work | Sandy Bridge motherboards were recalled because of a flaw in one of the SATA ports. They will not be available for purchase at least until March or April. |
| 17:54.03 | nevcairiel | old news |
| 17:59.42 | kd3|netbook | also: point, laugh... |
| 18:01.06 | Fisker | kd3|netbook |
| 18:01.17 | kd3|netbook | hm? |
| 18:01.20 | Fisker | i just shot down helicopters with a dinosaur that shoots lasers |
| 18:01.25 | Fisker | your argument is irrelevant |
| 18:01.42 | kd3|netbook | grats? |
| 18:03.19 | Fisker | it was awesome kd3|netbook |
| 18:03.26 | kd3|netbook | I bet |
| 18:04.12 | Fisker | engadget are stupid jnwhiteh |
| 18:04.27 | Fisker | "Motorola Atrix root found to be signed, hacking might not be so easy" |
| 18:04.38 | Fisker | ITT: We don't know the difference between root and the bootloader |
| 18:08.13 | Lunessa | CNN published pictures of the quake damage in Christchurch. Heart-breaking. |
| 18:09.16 | zenzelezz | the damage, or that CNN published them? |
| 18:12.17 | Fisker | staring at http://www.christchurchquakemap.co.nz/ seems kind of inappropiate not Lunessa |
| 18:12.32 | Fisker | not = now |
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| 18:14.09 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: The damage. I've lived through a few large earthquakes, and it still makes me sad when I see buildings, homes, businesses and lives destroyed by natural disaster. |
| 18:14.49 | Fisker | lol win |
| 18:15.04 | Fisker | someone here was drinking wine out of a box while driving a bus |
| 18:15.34 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: yeah, |
| 18:25.00 | haste | Fisker: what |
| 18:27.53 | Kraps|work | too soon? http://wow.joystiq.com/2011/02/22/around-azeroth-say-you-want-a-revolution/ |
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| 18:49.42 | Cide | nope |
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| 19:41.06 | Kraps|work | It's quite. Too quite. |
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| 19:41.59 | Zyn | shh, quiet |
| 19:43.10 | cbreak | server problems... *grumble* |
| 19:43.14 | Cide | Esamynn|Away: ping |
| 19:43.28 | Kraps|work | be vewy quite, hunting wabbits |
| 19:43.46 | Cide | hm |
| 19:44.02 | Cide | on the world map |
| 19:44.11 | Cide | are the map texture dimensions constant? |
| 19:44.17 | Cide | or do they vary across zones |
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| 19:56.28 | bluspacecow | "Gelmkar Customer Service Hi, Seems there may be an issue, we are investigating." |
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| 20:02.35 | wereHamster | is today patchday in europe? |
| 20:03.05 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 20:07.48 | wereHamster | why are half of the servers down then? |
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| 20:08.01 | wereHamster | all but two actually |
| 20:08.07 | nevcairiel | because its broken |
| 20:08.10 | cogwheel | hampsters |
| 20:08.12 | nevcairiel | also, what patch would there be? :p |
| 20:09.30 | bluspacecow | its all cog's fault |
| 20:09.31 | wereHamster | I don't know. blizz used to allocate one day of the week for patchday |
| 20:09.40 | bluspacecow | he got hungry and ate the server hamsters |
| 20:09.43 | wereHamster | or.. shut down the servers for mainenance |
| 20:09.43 | bluspacecow | yeah |
| 20:09.45 | bluspacecow | and ? |
| 20:09.56 | wereHamster | I was asking whether that is today |
| 20:10.01 | Kraps|work | they must by slacking off and doing the hampster dance |
| 20:10.08 | bluspacecow | actually their TOS/ EULA say they can bring the servers down at any point and for any reason |
| 20:10.15 | bluspacecow | says nothing about 1 day per week |
| 20:10.21 | bluspacecow | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1751857527?page=10#199 |
| 20:10.21 | cogwheel | they've been doing tuesday maintenance since the beginning |
| 20:10.32 | cogwheel | i think we were just incredulous that you didn't think of that >< |
| 20:10.40 | bluspacecow | force of habit then |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | maintenance is actually tonight, starting at 5am |
| 20:10.56 | nevcairiel | but its only 9pm |
| 20:11.12 | cogwheel | then hampsters it is |
| 20:11.37 | Kraps|work | doing the hampster dance |
| 20:11.44 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 20:11.52 | bluspacecow | they're round the back making more hampster |
| 20:11.55 | bluspacecow | doing the mating dance |
| 20:13.38 | Kraps|work | yeah, they need more to replace the ones that die of exhaustion |
| 20:14.48 | mitchnull | moo |
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| 20:19.23 | Kraps|work | math operations are run on the processor alone? |
| 20:20.32 | Cide | nowai |
| 20:20.34 | Cide | DirectCompute |
| 20:21.05 | Kraps|work | i dont know him |
| 20:21.13 | ckknight | also OpenCL |
| 20:21.33 | ckknight | Kraps|work: it's a way to run mathematical calculations on the GPU |
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| 20:24.55 | Kraps|work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:27.26 | cbreak | GPGPU. interesting topic. |
| 20:27.33 | Cide | lua> tonumber("11111000010", 2) |
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| 20:27.46 | Cide | no? |
| 20:28.08 | Cide | lua fail |
| 20:28.25 | Cide | or lua bot fail |
| 20:28.39 | nevcairiel | the bot would at least say something if it worked |
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| 20:28.44 | nevcairiel | lua> "muh" |
| 20:29.57 | Kraps|work | whats the octal system for |
| 20:30.34 | ckknight | Kraps: it was close to 10 while being 2^n and didn't require any extra representation for 10-15 like hex does. |
| 20:30.46 | ckknight | it's pointless nowadays, imo. |
| 20:31.09 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/en/maintenance/ |
| 20:31.11 | nevcairiel | Kraps|work: The Yuki language in California and the Pamean languages[1] in Mexico have octal systems because the speakers count using the spaces between their fingers rather than the fingers themselves. |
| 20:31.24 | lua_bot | Cide: 1986 |
| 20:31.25 | foxlit | Someone hasn't been updating their maintenance page :/ |
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| 20:31.36 | Cide | now that is a difficult calculation |
| 20:31.37 | Cide | good job, lua_bot |
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| 20:32.35 | Kraps|work | yay lua_bot |
| 20:33.03 | Kraps|work | does lua_bot do hex too? |
| 20:33.14 | foxlit | lua> tonumber("zoo", 36); |
| 20:33.27 | foxlit | foxlit: 46248 |
| 20:34.19 | kd3|phone | mm. wtb h:m:s timestamp mode |
| 20:34.57 | foxlit | Okay, so what actually happened to EU battle.net? |
| 20:35.12 | nevcairiel | the hamsters died |
| 20:35.56 | kd3|phone | Nooooo... poor hamsters |
| 20:36.51 | Kraps|work | those guys were jerks anyway |
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| 20:39.14 | Chickenwing | hi |
| 20:39.43 | kd3|phone | 'lo |
| 20:40.39 | Kraps|work | hay a new guy! |
| 20:40.47 | Chickenwing | hi folks |
| 20:41.24 | Chickenwing | a german one ^^ |
| 20:42.22 | Kraps|work | whats your home address Chickenwing |
| 20:42.27 | Kraps|work | kidding |
| 20:42.32 | Chickenwing | ^^ |
| 20:42.48 | Chickenwing | i need help with programming an wow addon with xml/lua |
| 20:44.21 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 20:44.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:44.36 | Chickenwing | kk |
| 20:45.02 | mikma | ~irctoirc |
| 20:45.08 | Chickenwing | how i can hide an frame border in xml code (wow addon) |
| 20:45.36 | kd3|phone | Huh, my laptop's on the other side of the split |
| 20:52.03 | bluspacecow | its a chicken ! with a wing ! |
| 20:52.04 | bluspacecow | to get away when fisker trys to nom them |
| 20:52.10 | bluspacecow | a guy guy or a girly girl ? |
| 20:52.25 | mikma | maybe ! cause , you know , this looks so idiotic . |
| 20:52.26 | mckenziemc | lol kd3 |
| 20:52.59 | Kraps|work | mikma: yo dawg i heard you like to irc so we put an irc in an irc so you can irc while you irc |
| 20:53.05 | mikma | irc. |
| 20:54.26 | Chickenwing | hmm |
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| 20:57.09 | foxlit | "Victory Games is a new studio founded by Electronic Arts that will bring back the classic strategy franchise Command & Conquer." |
| 20:57.14 | foxlit | So soon, EA? |
| 20:58.33 | Kraps|work | i never figured out how to do what i think was the last allied mission in the first red alert |
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| 21:01.08 | karl_w_w | you can download the first c&C and C&C red alert and all their expansions from ea for free :P |
| 21:01.28 | karl_w_w | pretty much need dosbox to run them though if you're on win 7 |
| 21:01.55 | durcyn | at which point you realize they aged very poorly |
| 21:02.42 | cbreak | like starcraft? :) |
| 21:02.53 | cbreak | has no idea why people still play the old one |
| 21:04.10 | Kraps|work | yeah, it was a big deal that top players moved to SC2 when it was released |
| 21:04.29 | Kraps|work | for some reason |
| 21:04.53 | cbreak | some people get 80k US$ for winning in SC2. |
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| 21:05.10 | karl_w_w | old c&c is still good |
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| 21:08.53 | Shirik | why karl_w_w :( |
| 21:08.53 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:08.53 | Shirik | (13:05:09) (karl_w_w) old c&c is still good |
| 21:08.53 | Shirik | (13:05:28) (karl_w_w) and you can get a patch that increases it's res |
| 21:08.53 | Shirik | (13:05:30)  -⺠Netsplit (*.net â¹-⺠*.split) 44 quits |
| 21:08.53 | Shirik | Obviously freenode disagrees |
| 21:08.53 | Fisker | may i kick you in the face then electrocute you? |
| 21:08.53 | foxlit | Generals is *surprisingly* good. |
| 21:08.53 | Shirik | no Fisker |
| 21:08.54 | Fisker | sure about that Shirik ? |
| 21:08.54 | Kraps|work | i think its pretty meh foxlit . |
| 21:09.09 | Shirik | yes Fisker |
| 21:09.10 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 21:09.10 | foxlit | curse you, SC2 |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker | may i sign you up for other acts of random violence Shirik ? |
| 21:09.38 | Shirik | no Fisker |
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| 23:37.58 | kd3|netbook | hah, I love this time of year |
| 23:38.14 | kd3|netbook | someone brought a box of thin mints to class and the box was empty in under 2 minutes |
| 23:38.18 | Lunessa | The cold, the sports, the girls in fuzzy sweaters? |
| 23:38.22 | kd3|netbook | munches on deliciousness |
| 23:38.37 | kd3|netbook | the girls in sweaters are nice, but I prefer bikini season |
| 23:39.04 | Lunessa | I can find no fault with your reasoning. |
| 23:39.10 | kd3|netbook | also, mid 60s last week, this week too |
| 23:39.18 | kd3|netbook | it's been wonderful compared to snowpocalypse |
| 23:39.40 | kd3|netbook | though I'm still expecting a late freeze/flurries this year to kill everything |
| 23:39.45 | kd3|netbook | idiots have already started planting crap |
| 23:45.09 | Cide | hmm |
| 23:45.11 | Cide | hi Shirik |
