| 00:03.57 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh: i added an attribution for wowprogramming.com http://www.screencast.com/t/NWww6Ujv |
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| 00:06.13 | Gnarfoz | hotfixes don't carry version numbers, Nobgul, don't let yourself be misinformed by people who can't discern hotfix from patch ;D |
| 00:06.22 | Gnarfoz | (or lag from low fps, or skill from gearscore ;P) |
| 00:07.20 | Adys | or memory from ram. |
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| 00:10.09 | Synycyl | Ok... this has me really stumped so time to prod at you all again |
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| 00:12.04 | Synycyl | I have a boolean saved variable per character named shLock. If shLock is set to true when I log out it saves the posistion of the addon. If it is set to false then it resets the position of the addon. true = movable frame false = not movable frame. Anyone have a clue on this one? or at least a method for a frame being locked i'm not seeing? |
| 00:12.49 | Synycyl | it's most definitely due to shLock being false on logout |
| 00:13.05 | Synycyl | or better yet false on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 00:18.14 | Synycyl | ok guess i'm removing the lock feature from my addon! |
| 00:18.28 | mckenziemc | are you asking how to lock the frame's position? |
| 00:18.33 | mckenziemc | !api lock |
| 00:18.33 | lua_bot | Found 51 possible matches for 'lock'. Please be more specific |
| 00:19.50 | Synycyl | i know how to lock the position... just set SetMovable and EnableMouse to false |
| 00:20.55 | mckenziemc | then i don't know what you're asking : / |
| 00:21.10 | mckenziemc | i might not be able to help you anyway though, i don't have experience with frames |
| 00:21.37 | Synycyl | More specifically is the logical error of if my lock variable is set to false when you log out then the addons position is reset to defaults when you login or reload |
| 00:22.00 | Synycyl | if the same variable is true or completley removed then the position is remembered as it should be |
| 00:22.25 | Gnarfoz | sounds a bit like you're using Blizzard's "IsUserPlaced" property |
| 00:23.12 | Gnarfoz | which throws away the placement values if you log out without it set |
| 00:23.32 | mckenziemc | if you want to reset the position when the saved variable contains a certain value, you may have to hard code a default position |
| 00:24.22 | Synycyl | I want it to remember where the user put it... and if the user locked it I want it to keep it locked |
| 00:24.25 | Gnarfoz | that, and you probably want to do all position handling yourself, the only way to be certain you don't lose positioning information |
| 00:24.58 | Gnarfoz | well, it doesn't sound like you're actually saving where the user placed it |
| 00:25.05 | Synycyl | The UserPlaced thing works if my variable is true, but it resets the location on login or reload if the variable is false |
| 00:25.13 | Gnarfoz | you need to do that, and restore that from SavedVariables when the addon loads |
| 00:25.20 | Gnarfoz | which is just what I said |
| 00:25.39 | Gnarfoz | isuserplaced only remembers positioning values as long as it's true |
| 00:25.59 | Gnarfoz | (kind of logical, too) |
| 00:26.06 | Synycyl | Gnarfoz: I am not changing the isuserplaced value... |
| 00:26.11 | Gnarfoz | so: don't set that variable to false |
| 00:26.16 | Synycyl | that is true... period |
| 00:26.18 | Gnarfoz | don't disable the addon, eiter |
| 00:26.20 | Gnarfoz | *either |
| 00:26.32 | Synycyl | I don't disable the addon' |
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| 00:27.14 | Gnarfoz | well, then I'm out of guesses and maybe it's time to share how you actually implemented the functionality that is not working |
| 00:28.10 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
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| 00:30.02 | Synycyl | http://pastey.net/145999 That is ALL of my code. and this is in the TOC ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter: shAutohide, shLock |
| 00:30.50 | wereHamster | This can be triggered when logging into your wow-account from a different country [...]. The use of an Authenticator does not remove this security system. |
| 00:31.00 | wereHamster | so in essence if you are traveling a lot you are screwed |
| 00:31.04 | Synycyl | if shLock is false when you logout or reload then when you login the addon will draw CENTER of the screen and won't got to the position it was in when you log out. if shLock is true when you logout then it works as intended |
| 00:33.24 | nebula1692 | why are you doing that? why not just save the position when its moved and have some way to reset it back to the center |
| 00:34.48 | Synycyl | that doesn't solve the lock won't save position bit... I tried that way as well |
| 00:37.38 | Synycyl | nebula1692 to clarify what i just said... If I comment out all code for the lock and delete the saved variable from the TOC the position works perfectly |
| 00:38.16 | Synycyl | if I re-implement the lock variable and code and the lock is disabled (I.E. shLock = true) then it saves the position perfectly |
| 00:39.17 | Synycyl | if the lock is enabled (I.E. shLock = false) the position isn't saved... more accuratley I think it is ignored when the addon starts |
| 00:39.59 | Synycyl | i'm thinking I will have to go dig through Omen or recount and figure it out cause I don't think I'm able to convey the message accuratley |
| 00:41.34 | nebula1692 | have you tried just not calling SetMovable(false) ? that might be killing the SetUserPlaced flag |
| 00:44.06 | nebula1692 | i've always positioned frames manually without letting the layout cache do it, so i'm just guessing |
| 00:44.16 | Synycyl | You mean just toggling the MouseEnabled? |
| 00:44.34 | nebula169 | line 186 |
| 00:45.52 | Gnarfoz | the sane and less painful way is what nebula169 (and I) already suggested: you're probably better off not using SetUserPlaced and doing it all yourself |
| 00:47.01 | foxlit | Just use XML(tm) |
| 00:47.19 | Synycyl | nebula169: you were right... the SeMovable was killing it |
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| 00:49.05 | Synycyl | thanks guys for all the help |
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| 00:50.05 | nebula169 | yarp |
| 00:50.58 | Synycyl | Gnarfoz: I'll look into setting up the code to do my own saved positions since I know Cache is unreliable at best. Problem is... My addon doesn't make money so its not worth 100% of my attention lol! I'm just fixing some bugs is all. |
| 00:51.29 | Kraftman | how do i drag a frame in just one direction? |
| 00:51.32 | Gnarfoz | most addons don't. ^^ |
| 00:54.51 | Synycyl | Gnarfoz: I know... I have a game I'm working on that will play from at least Android and I'm aiming for a Windows/Mac/Linux version as well. That will make money off of Ads or users who donate to remove Ads. so... addons in WoW kinda take a lower priority (kinda). |
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| 00:57.16 | airtonix | Fisker: help me with my care face |
| 00:58.19 | airtonix | Synycyl: i'm also in the process of taking over the world and building really awesome things on other planets (kinda) so i just thought you'd like to know that Justin Beiber is more popular than you |
| 00:58.32 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 00:59.01 | airtonix | mckenziemc: can't talk, godzilla just made a dramatic entrance looll |
| 00:59.55 | mckenziemc | nah that was your mom |
| 01:01.57 | Synycyl | airtonix: lol... thank you for the smack in the face. I understand we are all in the process of some big project eh! Programmers.. living on the one day I will statements! |
| 01:02.04 | Synycyl | and with that... i'm out.. good night |
| 01:02.31 | Kraftman | is there a way to lock dragging of a frame to just one axis? |
| 01:02.40 | airtonix | a spear |
| 01:02.57 | mckenziemc | the Fisker is strong in you today, airtonix |
| 01:03.05 | nebula169 | using your own script handler, sure |
| 01:03.29 | airtonix | mckenziemc: unfortunately no one can be told what the Fisker is, it is something you must experience yourself. |
| 01:03.42 | Gnarfoz | but... |
| 01:03.43 | Gnarfoz | ~fisker |
| 01:03.43 | purl | i guess fisker is the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire, or http:/â/âtinyurl.com/âfisker1, or probably a bot |
| 01:03.57 | Gnarfoz | ~emulate fisker |
| 01:03.57 | purl | rumour has it, emulate fisker is "<reply> OH MY GOD I AM GOING TO CUM" |
| 01:04.11 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 01:04.14 | Gnarfoz | broken? hm |
| 01:04.20 | Gnarfoz | ~remulate |
| 01:04.20 | purl | THE DIB! HE'S MISSING! THEY'VE TAKEN HIM AND DRAINED HIM OF HIS _sweet sweet blood candies_ |
| 01:04.23 | mckenziemc | ~factinfo emulate fisker |
| 01:04.23 | purl | emulate fisker -- created by Mikma <i=mikma@reaktio.net> at Mon Dec 4 23:01:20 2006 (1530 days); last modified at Sun Oct 28 09:55:21 2007 by Kemayo!n=kemayo@pool-71-103-215-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net; it has been requested 28 times, last by Gnarfoz, 26s ago. |
| 01:05.02 | mckenziemc | it's seriously been broken for three years? O.o |
| 01:05.15 | airtonix | it's only broken if people care |
| 01:05.29 | mckenziemc | breaks airtonix's face. |
| 01:05.35 | airtonix | see, i don't care |
| 01:05.48 | airtonix | therefore |
| 01:05.50 | airtonix | not broken |
| 01:06.05 | Kraftman | nebula169: could you elaboratE? |
| 01:06.31 | mckenziemc | try going out in public. then people will care... |
| 01:06.32 | airtonix | Kraftman: obviously you do some sethandler for a function on framedrag |
| 01:06.53 | airtonix | cancel the orginal movement |
| 01:07.11 | Kraftman | !api sethandler |
| 01:07.11 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'sethandler'. |
| 01:07.25 | airtonix | don't quote me |
| 01:07.31 | airtonix | it's illegal |
| 01:07.47 | nebula169 | depending on how you move the frame, you could frame:SetScript("OnDragStart", function(self, button) --[[get the anchor point, and SetPoint with the axis you want to freeze]] end) |
| 01:08.21 | Kraftman | and then reaply the axis onupdate? |
| 01:08.25 | Kraftman | re apply* |
| 01:09.17 | nebula169 | the func gets called for all movement, so you just leave one axis alone (get the current value) and set the other one |
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| 01:09.55 | foxlit | Pathetic, the SC2 UI can still get stuck in a state where it thinks it's about to join a game |
| 01:10.00 | Kraftman | loosk liek ondragstart only gets called for movements of 10 or more pixels |
| 01:10.03 | foxlit | And there's no way to convince it otherwise short of logging off :/ |
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| 01:10.38 | airtonix | foxlit: does that make you happy |
| 01:10.56 | foxlit | airtonix: no, does that make you happy? :) |
| 01:11.04 | mckenziemc | Working As Intended (tm) |
| 01:11.06 | nebula169 | try OnMouseDown |
| 01:11.30 | Kraftman | and the StartMoving() wont override the SetPoint ? |
| 01:12.03 | Kraftman | im going to play around with it , thanks |
| 01:12.41 | nebula169 | i don't believe StartMoving or StopMovingOrSizing will try and change anything |
| 01:13.14 | Kraftman | but the act of draggign will surely ovveride the setpoint |
| 01:13.23 | Kraftman | unless its applied every onupdate? |
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| 01:15.12 | Iriel | You do have to use OnUpdate's to do that well |
| 01:15.16 | Iriel | at least that was my experience |
| 01:15.16 | nebula169 | yes, you'd probably need to use OnUpdate, thinking back I've really only tried to restrict the size using OnSizeChanged, which is called for any resizing |
| 01:15.35 | Kraftman | ok, cheers :) |
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| 01:18.11 | Kraftman | !api getleft |
| 01:18.11 | lua_bot | Region:GetLeft: Returns the distance from the left edge of the screen to the left edge of the region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetLeft) |
| 01:25.13 | Kraftman | !api cursorpos |
| 01:25.13 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'cursorpos': GetCursorPosition, EditBox:GetUTF8CursorPosition, EditBox:GetCursorPosition, EditBox:SetCursorPosition |
| 01:27.51 | Iriel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCursorPosition |
| 01:27.53 | Iriel | That one |
| 01:28.01 | Iriel | Not sure why the script doesn't hyperlink non-frame methods |
| 01:30.14 | Kraftman | ty |
| 01:30.41 | Kraftman | !api scale |
| 01:30.41 | lua_bot | Found 13 possible matches for 'scale'. Please be more specific |
| 01:30.43 | kd3 | oh, if anyone's curious, there weren't any UI changes this build |
| 01:31.04 | Iriel | presumably you mean low level |
| 01:31.14 | Iriel | given how they improved and broke the archeology UI, etc |
| 01:31.44 | SinusPi | kd3, what with the glyph spell IDs? |
| 01:31.53 | SinusPi | wasn't that in this build? |
| 01:32.33 | Kraftman | how do i get the uiscale? |
| 01:32.41 | SinusPi | getcvar? |
| 01:32.43 | Iriel | It's a CVar |
| 01:32.53 | Iriel | you might try UIParent:GetEffectiveScale too |
| 01:33.34 | Kraftman | whats the diference betwen geteffectivescale and getscale? :/ |
| 01:33.47 | Iriel | INheritance |
| 01:34.00 | Iriel | If I have A, AChild and AGrandChild |
| 01:34.17 | Iriel | and I do A:SetScale(0.5); AChild:SetScale(0.5) and AGrandChild:SetScale(0.5) |
| 01:34.27 | Iriel | then AChild:GetEffectiveScale() is 0.25 |
| 01:34.37 | Iriel | AGrandChild:GetEffectiveScale() is 0.125 |
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| 01:34.43 | Iriel | (Assuming A's parent has an effective scale of 1) |
| 01:34.46 | Kraftman | ahh i see |
| 01:34.48 | Kraftman | thanks :) |
| 01:34.59 | Iriel | Basically X:GetEffectiveScale() == X:GetScale() * X:GetParent():GetEffectiveScale() |
| 01:35.23 | SinusPi | Speaking of scales. Is there some clever way to make the Scale animation not suck with backdrops? |
| 01:36.41 | SinusPi | It animates every backdrop block separately for me, even if a generic Animation type driving a series of :SetScale(x)'s doesn't cause THAT malfunction? |
| 01:37.07 | Iriel | Smells a bit like an opimization induced bug |
| 01:38.41 | Adys | ~x en jp hello |
| 01:38.53 | Adys | ~x jp en ããã«ã¡ã¯ |
| 01:39.09 | foxlit | Animations are weird |
| 01:39.22 | foxlit | They seem to operate on texture level rather than on buffer level :( |
| 01:39.22 | SinusPi | oo, purl can't handle utf? |
| 01:39.47 | SinusPi | yeah :/ That's kinda retarded if you ask me, both for texture and font reasons. |
| 01:41.20 | SinusPi | ~x jp en æ¬èªï¼ |
| 01:41.30 | SinusPi | pft. |
| 01:42.33 | SinusPi | So maybe another question to fire into the darkness, like a magic missile: Is there a known way to combine a macro with a flyout? So that I can left-click to get a normal spell and right-click to get a built-in flyout? |
| 01:43.55 | Shirik | needs to become a scrummaster |
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| 01:44.09 | Iriel | Shirik: It's not too bad, 3 day class + online test |
| 01:44.44 | Shirik | I offered way too many changes during our retrospective today :) |
| 01:44.47 | airtonix | i think you exceed the IQ limit of 3 |
| 01:45.00 | Shirik | Including a "chickens need to stfu during daily scrum" (though I said it a little nicer than that) |
| 01:45.37 | Iriel | one would hoppe so |
| 01:46.37 | Shirik | after our retrospective I got emails from several managers along the lines of "you've been here for 3 weeks and we're already impressed with your process improvement contributions" :P |
| 01:47.14 | Dagmar | SinusP1: I *think* Macaroon can do that. You might look into that code |
| 01:48.04 | kd3 | rofl |
| 01:48.06 | kd3 | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cWCV9z2E3Qo/TVXVinh_hNI/AAAAAAAAAp4/pdwEja6pf0g/s200/programadorweb.jpg |
| 01:48.22 | Shirik | nice |
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| 01:52.47 | Shirik | Iriel: I think my favorite contribution was when I pointed out that this sprint we got (percentage-wise) infinitely more story points than last sprint |
| 01:52.54 | Shirik | because we got 0 last sprint >.> |
| 01:53.02 | Shirik | I left the last part out |
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| 01:55.03 | Iriel | Shirik: Are you implying you make your team infinitely more productive? |
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| 02:06.15 | Kraftman | SinusPi: have you seen opie? |
| 02:06.37 | Kraftman | it does something similar to what you described |
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| 02:06.52 | SinusPi | I'll look into it, thanks. |
| 02:21.24 | kd3 | ls |
| 02:21.28 | kd3 | gah, damn it |
| 02:22.57 | Shirik | yes Iriel |
| 02:23.01 | Adys | kd3: porn/ moreporn/ depravedporn/ reallydepravedporn/ weirdhentaiwow.jpg |
| 02:23.02 | Shirik | that is exactly what I am saying |
| 02:23.53 | Adys | gnight |
| 02:26.28 | Kraftman | !api getcenter |
| 02:26.28 | lua_bot | Region:GetCenter: Returns the screen coordinates of the region's center (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/GetCenter) |
| 02:27.33 | Kraftman | guess it would help if i used its y coordinate to set its y position, instead of its x >< |
| 02:30.04 | Shirik | Anyone experienced enough with vbs to be able to tell me if the following is possible: |
| 02:30.13 | mckenziemc | it's not |
| 02:30.23 | mckenziemc | (: |
| 02:30.25 | Shirik | I have a CSV file. I want to create an Excel graph out of it automatically. |
| 02:35.02 | Dagmar | Looks possible to me |
| 02:36.09 | Dagmar | http://www.vb-helper.com/howto_csv_to_array.html |
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| 02:55.41 | sylvanaar | i just got parameter guidance working in my editor... http://screencast.com/t/9s5vtaKw2Ca |
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| 03:07.28 | Kraftman | once ive resized a frame by dragging it, how can i make it so that setwidth works again? |
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| 03:15.30 | Iriel | ClearAllPoints |
| 03:15.41 | Kraftman | and then set them again/ |
| 03:16.26 | Iriel | Well, if you want to use SetWidth you can't set points on opposite sides |
| 03:16.34 | Iriel | but you can set ONE point, then use SetWidth/SetHeight |
| 03:16.43 | Kraftman | ok |
| 03:17.14 | Kraftman | currently im attaching the right side of the guild frame to the left side of a small dragable frame |
| 03:17.53 | Kraftman | and then when ive finished dragging, i want to set the width to the new width |
| 03:18.47 | Kraftman | so i guess i need to store the left hand side, then drag the right, then clear all points, set the left, and set the new width based on GetRight - GetLeft |
| 03:19.41 | Kraftman | anyway i need some sleep, thanks for you help :) |
| 03:30.05 | sylvanaar | Iriel: have you even tried my lua plugin for intellij - im looking for ppl to try it out |
| 03:30.14 | sylvanaar | or how about you Shirik |
| 03:32.30 | Iriel | sylvanaar: I haven't but then I dont use intellij |
| 03:32.50 | sylvanaar | heres a screencast http://screencast.com/t/9s5vtaKw2Ca |
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| 03:36.33 | sylvanaar | im just trying to get as much feedback as possible before the 1.0 release |
| 03:39.26 | amro | anyone here using cmake? #cmake is useless |
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| 03:42.54 | Cide | cmake has awful documentation |
| 03:45.32 | amro | that's true |
| 03:46.11 | amro | I have this: |
| 03:46.13 | amro | add_custom_command(TARGET test POST_BUILD COMMAND ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}/test WORKING_DIRECTORY ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}) |
| 03:46.21 | amro | which runs the tests at every compile |
| 03:46.29 | amro | only problem is that if the test crashes, the test binary is deleted |
| 03:46.35 | amro | and I can't run it through gdb |
| 03:47.02 | amro | I think the post build command is being considered a dependency of some sort |
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| 04:14.04 | DJJeff | I am pretty fucking pissed right now.... so I downloaded the "LUI" addon started wow it had this button in the middle of my screen saying "INSTALL" so I click on it AND IT FUCKS UP ALL MY ADDONS!!!! I didnt backup my saved variables cause I didnt think id have to.... save me JEBUS!!!!!!! |
| 04:15.01 | DJJeff | I spent 2 hours setting up my bartender alone and now its all fucked up |
| 04:16.47 | widgertick | I hate it when that happens. |
| 04:18.51 | airtonix | you deserved it |
| 04:19.11 | Dagmar | You SHOULD still have the normal backups of the saved variables |
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| 04:19.59 | DJJeff | how did I deserv it? |
| 04:20.02 | DJJeff | thats fucked up |
| 04:20.20 | DJJeff | im about to flame this guys forums with my massive army |
| 04:20.29 | DJJeff | thats how pissed I am |
| 04:20.31 | Torhal | kickbans DJJeff. |
| 04:20.36 | DJJeff | lol |
| 04:20.38 | Torhal | Oh, wait. No ops here. |
| 04:20.56 | DJJeff | follows Torhal into a dark avenue. Hey test my crowbar! |
| 04:21.05 | Torhal | Sure thing! |
| 04:21.13 | Torhal | thwacks DJJeff with his own crowbar. |
| 04:21.22 | Torhal | Anywho. |
| 04:21.34 | Torhal | I tab into here and see yet MOAR QQ. |
| 04:21.36 | Torhal | Jebus. |
| 04:21.40 | Torhal | tabs back out. |
| 04:22.00 | DJJeff | burns Torhal's house down |
| 04:22.06 | DJJeff | discovers Torhal's picture at uglypeople.com |
| 04:22.17 | DJJeff | sneezes in Torhal's face |
| 04:22.34 | Torhal | Seriously, dude. If you've hit puberty, pull one off. You'll feel better. |
| 04:22.40 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:22.47 | DJJeff | nah |
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| 04:22.58 | DJJeff | ill jizz on your face then ill feel better |
| 04:23.18 | tekkub | poor Torhal, getting baited like that |
| 04:23.24 | DJJeff | oh wait it was airtonix that said I deserve it |
| 04:23.31 | Torhal | facepalms, then realizes that this is typical of WoW players. |
| 04:23.51 | tekkub | C'mon Torhal, I mean look he offered bukakke and I didn't fall for it |
| 04:24.04 | Torhal | tekkub: Just sick of seeing the same bullshit from the same people. Plus, the beer is telling me to let it all out. |
| 04:24.28 | Torhal | Insidious, I say. |
| 04:24.29 | tekkub | you should work support |
| 04:24.36 | DJJeff | this isnt the 1st time some UI addon fucked with my shit |
| 04:24.44 | Torhal | tekkub: Did that, learned the curbside fetal position. |
| 04:24.53 | Torhal | DJJeff: It's called GETTING A FUCKING CLUE. |
| 04:24.57 | tekkub | well, some support jobs are better than others ^^ |
| 04:24.57 | Torhal | And not freaking here. |
| 04:25.20 | DJJeff | what are you saying to stop downloading shitty addons? |
| 04:25.31 | DJJeff | to stop paying for curse premium |
| 04:25.40 | DJJeff | and to stop supporting addon authors |
| 04:25.51 | DJJeff | is that what your saying? |
| 04:25.53 | Torhal | Between you and Amarande, I've seriously considered not /joining this channel on many occasions. Then I think of all the people who aren't whiny fucks and stay. |
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| 04:26.15 | DJJeff | Fisker doesnt bother you? |
| 04:26.20 | Ketho | ..isn't lui hosted at wowi? |
| 04:26.21 | Torhal | He's a troll. |
| 04:26.25 | tekkub | fisker bothers everyone |
| 04:26.36 | Torhal | Fisker doesn't QQ at every step. |
| 04:26.39 | tekkub | no troll_S_, we're allowed to have one |
| 04:26.40 | DJJeff | http://www.wow-lui.com/ |
| 04:26.58 | DJJeff | im having fun flaming their boards |
| 04:27.01 | DJJeff | weeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:27.10 | Dagmar | So if you didn't exit and reenter the client multiple times, you still have backups |
| 04:27.27 | DJJeff | where might the backups be? |
| 04:27.39 | Dagmar | Same place the SavedVariables files are |
| 04:27.43 | DJJeff | curse client keeps backups? |
| 04:27.49 | tekkub | addonname.lua.bak or some shit |
| 04:27.53 | tekkub | the game oes |
| 04:28.03 | Dagmar | Blah.lua.bak |
| 04:28.03 | DJJeff | does it really? |
| 04:28.05 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 04:28.27 | tekkub | unless you log in and out and in and out and in and |
| 04:28.35 | tekkub | then they're gone |
| 04:28.37 | DJJeff | so if I mass delete the "non" .bak files then rename the .bak I should be ok again? |
| 04:28.47 | Dagmar | ...and several of those addons support their own profile loading anyway |
| 04:28.52 | tekkub | I'd not delete, you should have just learned that |
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| 04:28.58 | Dagmar | tekkub++ |
| 04:29.01 | tekkub | back things up before you screw with them |
| 04:29.21 | tekkub | same goes with before you install any major addon package thing |
| 04:29.32 | DJJeff | well everyone take my mistake as a leason..... DONT DOWNLOAD LUI without backups |
| 04:29.50 | tekkub | I don't think people in here use compilations much |
| 04:30.09 | airtonix | i am jacks somber experience |
| 04:30.36 | Thunder_Child | i use compilations as the basis for jokes....does that count? |
| 04:30.37 | tekkub | you know, I feel like we own jack's refridgerator full of condiments |
| 04:30.51 | tekkub | every time I look in there the door is full of stuff and the shelves are bare |
| 04:30.57 | DJJeff | im sure Curse Client could add a backup feature where it would .zip your saved variables |
| 04:31.02 | tekkub | granted, our freezer is crammed with food |
| 04:31.17 | airtonix | time to eat food |
| 04:31.28 | Thunder_Child | or actually use the fridge |
| 04:31.30 | tekkub | consider who you're talking to |
| 04:31.35 | Thunder_Child | like a boss |
| 04:31.39 | amro | DJJeff: it wouldn't have helped you |
| 04:31.44 | amro | you didn't think it necessary to backup |
| 04:33.15 | DJJeff | http://clientsupport.curse.com/ticket.aspx?id=14860 |
| 04:33.24 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaaaaaaay a ticket :) |
| 04:33.47 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 04:34.06 | DJJeff | im sure they could add this feature in like a couple minutes |
| 04:34.08 | Torhal | airtonix: Fuck you. You egger-onner-of-whiners! |
| 04:34.16 | airtonix | hoho |
| 04:34.47 | DJJeff | I play minecraft and their server has a backup feature that .zip's your world with a date a time in the file name |
| 04:35.04 | DJJeff | im sure curse could do the same |
| 04:35.10 | Dagmar | Because someone spent five minutes writing a shell script. |
| 04:35.15 | Dagmar | YOU Could do the same. |
| 04:35.25 | airtonix | improssible |
| 04:35.27 | tekkub | dropbox |
| 04:35.29 | tekkub | problem solved |
| 04:35.33 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 04:35.34 | DJJeff | Dagmar I dont work for Curse |
| 04:35.36 | Torhal | tekkub++ |
| 04:35.40 | DJJeff | do you work for curse? |
| 04:35.46 | Torhal | DJJeff: /facepalm with spikes |
| 04:35.46 | airtonix | who cares |
| 04:35.55 | tekkub | I'd totally use dropbox to keep my savedvars in sync if I didn't have a different resolution on my laptop |
| 04:35.57 | Dagmar | No, moron, I mean YOU write a batch file that backs up your damn SavedVariables in a zip file |
| 04:36.06 | airtonix | lawl |
| 04:36.33 | DJJeff | with a date and time? could it be done easy? |
| 04:36.36 | airtonix | no |
| 04:36.42 | airtonix | it requires rocket science |
| 04:36.45 | DJJeff | im lazy |
| 04:36.51 | Dagmar | It requires Basic Computer Literacy to write batch files |
| 04:37.13 | airtonix | which is beyond the entry level windows wow player |
| 04:37.16 | Torhal | tekkub: I use DropBox for SVs. Unfortunately since I have different resolutions between home and work, I have two versions so my shit doesn't QUITE synchronize. Though I could alleviate that by taking the time to differentiate between the UI-centric AddOns and the non. |
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| 04:37.32 | Torhal | airtonix: Idiot. It's Rocket SURGERY. |
| 04:37.44 | airtonix | of course |
| 04:38.13 | airtonix | you're from the ethics department aren't you |
| 04:38.27 | Dagmar | it's not like Windows doesn't show you the date and time a zip file was created |
| 04:38.48 | Torhal | airtonix: I'm from the Department of Ethical Euthanization of Idjits. |
| 04:39.00 | airtonix | so you're irish then ? |
| 04:39.13 | airtonix | this pelases me |
| 04:39.14 | Torhal | airtonix: If you'd peep at my last name, you'd know I am. |
| 04:39.17 | airtonix | and pleases |
| 04:39.41 | Dagmar | There's also the "OMGHARD" approach of installing 7zip and then just right clicking on the SavedVariables folder and stuffing the lot into a zip file |
| 04:40.02 | airtonix | unacceptable |
| 04:40.13 | Torhal | airtonix: No. Impopsicle. |
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| 04:48.26 | mckenziemc1 | decides not to read the scrollback.... |
| 04:48.52 | airtonix | sends it via private message to mckenziemc1 |
| 04:49.32 | Torhal | fills mckenziemc full of diydrogenmonoxide. |
| 04:49.42 | Torhal | fills mckenziemc full of dihydrogenmonoxide. |
| 04:49.46 | Torhal | THERE! |
| 04:49.55 | airtonix | ok |
| 04:50.25 | mckenziemc | dies |
| 04:51.05 | Torhal | BTW: dihydrogenmonoxide is water. H2O |
| 04:51.16 | Torhal | Two hydrogen, one oxygen, |
| 04:51.19 | Torhal | FFS. |
| 04:51.29 | Dagmar | DHMO KILLS. |
| 04:51.58 | Torhal | Dagmar: Truth. The "Hold Your Pee For Wii" contest of 2006 proved that. |
| 04:51.59 | Dagmar | http://www.dhmo.org/ <-- get the facts |
| 04:52.23 | Dagmar | Also... These people are fucking morons: http://www.plasticsmythbuster.org/Main-Menu/Plastics-Rumor-Registry/Cups-and-Containers-Made-with-Polystyrene-Plastic-Leach-Toxic-Dihydrogen-Monoxide-.aspx?gclid=CMyu1pzpgacCFY5l7AodIGH2dg |
| 04:52.42 | Dagmar | They paid Google for a placed ranking for that search term |
| 04:52.56 | Torhal | ... |
| 04:54.05 | Cide | except that doesn't happen |
| 04:54.57 | airtonix | prove it |
| 04:55.19 | Cide | can't |
| 04:55.25 | Cide | but I'd like to see dagmar prove his statement |
| 04:55.48 | Dagmar | I got the link from the search result on Google right before I posted it |
| 04:56.15 | airtonix | which means ? |
| 04:56.52 | Dagmar | The off-color box and the word "Ads" at the top was a bit of a giveaway |
| 04:57.01 | Dagmar | So I've got no idea what the fuck you expect me to "prove" |
| 04:57.16 | Cide | that's not a ranking |
| 04:57.26 | Dagmar | No, it's not. It's a result they paid for. |
| 04:57.33 | Cide | (05:52:51) Dagmar: They paid Google for a placed ranking for that search term |
| 04:57.41 | Dagmar | Pedant. |
| 05:02.59 | Cide | indeed |
| 05:05.45 | Dagmar | You want to worry about whether it's technically a "ranking" or not, and the point is that some company felt it important enough to dispel the "myth" about DHMO from the obvious joke site DHMO.org that they *paid Google money* to have their site's page show up at the top of the page when someone searches for DHMO. |
| 05:05.52 | Dagmar | That's pretty much pedantry. |
| 05:06.06 | airtonix | ok |
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| 05:25.21 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 05:28.06 | Arrowmaster | pong |
| 05:30.58 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: pong |
| 05:31.21 | Shirik | what happened to the ratemyraid thing |
| 05:34.15 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 05:34.18 | Arrowmaster | that wasnt me |
| 05:34.59 | Shirik | um |
| 05:35.03 | Shirik | who did ratemyraid :( |
| 05:35.35 | amro | is that on mtv? |
| 05:36.00 | airtonix | not theapeismymaid |
| 05:45.09 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 05:45.48 | Cide | so uh |
| 05:45.56 | Cide | who told Shirik to one heal chimaeron |
| 05:45.57 | Antiarc | pong |
| 05:45.58 | Cide | lololol |
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| 05:48.42 | Antiarc | Shirik: Oh, that was me |
| 05:48.47 | Antiarc | Stateofdps changed their format |
| 05:48.51 | Antiarc | I need to update the script |
| 05:48.53 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:50.34 | Adys | Shirik: that was antiarc |
| 05:50.35 | Adys | Jan 18 06:03:46 <Antiarc> add ratemyraid@jabber.org to your contacts list, then IM it a URL for the damage chart for one of your kills |
| 05:50.40 | Shirik | NO SHIT |
| 05:50.47 | Adys | oh right |
| 05:50.55 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono\AppData\Roaming\nbs-irc\logs\freenode>grep -n ratemyraid * |
| 05:51.02 | Shirik | (21:45:02) (@Shirik) Antiarc: ping |
| 05:51.20 | Adys | ack -i *wowuidev.log |
| 05:51.22 | Adys | > your shit |
| 05:51.48 | Shirik | also, grep ftw |
| 05:51.52 | Adys | ack > grep |
| 05:53.46 | amro | why would you redirect ack's help output to a file? |
| 05:54.27 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 05:54.39 | Adys | WHY WOULDN'T I. |
| 05:54.43 | mckenziemc | amro > /dev/null |
| 05:55.01 | amro | amro: command not found |
| 05:55.36 | Adys | amro: command not found |
| 05:55.43 | airtonix | amro: command not found |
| 05:55.57 | Adys | you have a stupid nickname |
| 05:56.07 | airtonix | yes you do |
| 05:56.12 | Adys | where are the 4-chars when you need them |
| 05:56.18 | Adys | Cide, why aren't you amroing with us |
| 05:56.59 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:57.30 | mckenziemc | slaps: command not found |
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| 06:02.13 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:02.20 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 06:02.46 | mckenziemc | i'm bored :( |
| 06:02.51 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:02.53 | Fisker | hohohohoho |
| 06:03.03 | Fisker | So you have 750+ external ips? |
| 06:03.06 | airtonix | WUT |
| 06:03.23 | airtonix | Fisker: i will destroy you |
| 06:03.29 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 06:03.43 | Fisker | i hate wyse pocketcloud |
| 06:03.50 | airtonix | <insert excessive tanty here/> |
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| 06:15.32 | Fisker | yay |
| 06:16.11 | Fisker | almost time to preorder portal 2 |
| 06:16.23 | Adys | at least some of us are having fun |
| 06:18.19 | airtonix | lol |
| 06:18.33 | airtonix | at least i didn't lose my interface settings |
| 06:18.36 | airtonix | loool |
| 06:19.46 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 06:22.14 | Shirik | airtonix |
| 06:22.20 | airtonix | Yes sir |
| 06:22.26 | Adys | hey Shirik |
| 06:22.32 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/python-irc/blob/master/irc/__init__.py |
| 06:22.33 | Adys | ! |
| 06:22.33 | Shirik | it says .py |
| 06:22.39 | Shirik | I refuse to click it |
| 06:22.46 | airtonix | broseph? |
| 06:22.54 | Adys | http://goo.gl/1ZH2w |
| 06:23.03 | airtonix | better |
| 06:23.11 | Shirik | ffuuuuuuuuu |
| 06:24.01 | Adys | its awesome |
| 06:24.05 | Adys | Qt-like api for irc |
| 06:24.07 | Adys | in python |
| 06:24.23 | Adys | Qt in fact, not just Qt-like |
| 06:25.14 | amro | not qt, your logic is tied to QCoreApplication |
| 06:25.18 | amro | move it to a separate class |
| 06:28.30 | Adys | what? |
| 06:29.50 | mckenziemc | where? |
| 06:29.55 | Adys | who? |
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| 06:31.13 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 06:31.31 | Fisker | i want to take |
| 06:31.33 | Fisker | your face |
| 06:31.35 | Fisker | off |
| 06:31.41 | Fisker | and replace it with my butt hoho |
| 06:31.48 | Shirik | that would probably be quite messy |
| 06:31.55 | Sixen | agree |
| 06:32.07 | Sixen | you don't have the steady hand or technology to pull off a procedure like that, so HA |
| 06:32.23 | nebula169 | no more DRUGS for that fisker |
| 06:32.35 | airtonix | do it without painkillers |
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| 06:35.03 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 06:35.08 | Fisker | i will preorder portal 2 today |
| 06:35.31 | airtonix | you wil regret it |
| 06:35.52 | Fisker | i will not |
| 06:37.35 | airtonix | i disagree |
| 06:38.04 | Fisker | nope |
| 06:38.07 | Fisker | you agree |
| 06:38.11 | airtonix | yes i do |
| 06:38.20 | airtonix | i agree that you will regret it |
| 06:39.49 | Fisker | no |
| 06:39.54 | Fisker | you agree that i will not regret it |
| 06:40.53 | Fisker | so we agree |
| 06:40.59 | airtonix | that you will regret it |
| 06:42.21 | Jerub | woo puzzle box |
| 06:42.26 | Fisker | nope airtonix |
| 06:42.28 | Fisker | sup Jerub |
| 06:43.07 | Jerub | just got to the puzzle box of yogg saron |
| 06:55.10 | bluspacecow | grats jerub |
| 06:55.15 | bluspacecow | got that a few days ago |
| 06:55.28 | bluspacecow | and was like "sweet imma leave outlands to go to uldum" |
| 06:55.38 | bluspacecow | or w/e that sandy place with the kitty men are |
| 06:56.01 | bluspacecow | but then blessing of the old god popped in my nerubian solves |
| 06:56.09 | bluspacecow | so the game was like " i don't think so biatch" |
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| 07:07.45 | airtonix | ok |
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| 07:37.06 | Torhal | Fisker: You just don't understand...how I could just kill a man! |
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| 07:53.06 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 08:00.32 | airtonix | Fisker will reget it |
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| 08:23.36 | Adys | does anyone know of a chrome plugin that enables ssl for select sites automatically? |
| 08:23.52 | Adys | (ssleverywhere, but without the everywhere bit :P) |
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| 08:36.49 | airtonix | <tumbleweed/> |
| 08:39.00 | karl_w_w | sets airtonix' tumbleweed on fire |
| 08:40.25 | Primer | sigh, wtf...did druid stances change? |
| 08:41.02 | Primer | My tree macro, the one that prevents me from from hitting the button twice, which unshifts me from tree, isn't working |
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| 08:43.56 | Zhinjio1 | Torhal: evenin |
| 08:45.03 | Primer | nm, it must have been something else |
| 08:45.36 | Fisker | today i will preorder portal 2 |
| 08:45.41 | Fisker | and Torhal can't stop me |
| 08:46.30 | airtonix | FiskerStop(tm) |
| 08:47.50 | airtonix | I just patented that |
| 08:50.56 | karl_w_w | so blu has gone off to stop some guys procrastinating? |
| 08:51.04 | karl_w_w | what is he, captain productivity? |
| 08:51.26 | Fisker | slaps karl_w_w around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:51.50 | karl_w_w | douses Fisker with petrol and sets him ablaze |
| 08:55.12 | mckenziemc | Fisker, can you do a favor for me? |
| 08:56.00 | mckenziemc | I need you to kill my insomnia |
| 08:58.31 | Fisker | yes |
| 09:06.06 | airtonix | you're not as awesome as me Fisker |
| 09:06.18 | airtonix | close |
| 09:07.01 | Fisker | blizzard launcher be mad at me |
| 09:07.05 | Fisker | it don't wanna patch :< |
| 09:08.12 | airtonix | yeah if you patch, you might not be able to login |
| 09:12.55 | Fisker | just stuck at 0% applying updates sofar |
| 09:13.09 | airtonix | farts lethal gas on Fisker |
| 09:13.23 | Fisker | it isn't concetrated enough airtonix |
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| 09:13.46 | airtonix | you wouldn't be saying that if you were here now |
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| 09:54.09 | Fisker | baww |
| 09:54.11 | Fisker | still 0% |
| 09:58.50 | Fisker | lol wtf |
| 09:58.55 | Fisker | wow.exe was running as a process |
| 09:58.58 | Fisker | but i had no wow window |
| 10:02.27 | amro | the plot thickens |
| 10:02.32 | karl_w_w | ive had that after doing RestartGx |
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| 10:06.10 | Fisker | i hate blizzard |
| 10:06.24 | Fisker | stop resetting my damn load out of date addons for no reason :< |
| 10:07.25 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.45 | mckenziemc | no matter what Jamash says :p (or that might've been Jerub, can't remember) |
| 10:10.44 | Fisker | It's ok when it has a point |
| 10:10.48 | Fisker | but a 3MB hotfix patch |
| 10:10.48 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:10.50 | Fisker | NAWWWWWWWW |
| 10:17.41 | airtonix | sir |
| 10:17.44 | airtonix | by chance |
| 10:17.46 | airtonix | umad |
| 10:18.26 | Fisker | naw airtonix |
| 10:18.32 | airtonix | that's good |
| 10:18.52 | Fisker | i once killed a guy though |
| 10:18.54 | Fisker | was that good? |
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| 10:24.08 | Fisker | i once killed a guy airtonix |
| 10:29.09 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 10:29.11 | Fisker | do you trust me? |
| 10:29.21 | airtonix | you must be traumatised |
| 10:29.32 | Fisker | wrong response |
| 10:29.33 | airtonix | do you require counselling? |
| 10:31.17 | mckenziemc | fisker, did you kill my insomnia? |
| 10:31.31 | mckenziemc | yet* |
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| 10:36.09 | Fisker | i could mckenziemc |
| 10:36.09 | Fisker | do you have a gun? |
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| 10:36.09 | mckenziemc | no :( |
| 10:36.09 | airtonix | releases on Fisker |
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| 10:37.32 | Fisker | that sucks then mckenziemc |
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| 11:02.42 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 11:05.00 | Fisker | is the new speed attribute on the character sheet added by blizzard? |
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| 11:22.08 | karl_w_w | think so |
| 11:22.51 | karl_w_w | shame it's not accurate |
| 11:23.22 | karl_w_w | unless I actually have 220% run speed |
| 11:23.37 | karl_w_w | and my boots chant is increasing swim speed but not run speed |
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| 11:29.06 | nevcairiel | 220% would be mounted speed with the mount up guild perk |
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| 11:31.48 | widgertick | Hi Cairenn! |
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| 11:36.39 | Fisker | tackles Cairenn |
| 11:38.04 | Fisker | ah nevcairiel |
| 11:38.14 | Fisker | it said run speed so i assumed un-mounted |
| 11:38.35 | nevcairiel | its basically ground speed |
| 11:38.39 | nevcairiel | named soemwhat badly |
| 11:38.42 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:38.58 | Fisker | my flightspeed unmounted is apparently 120% |
| 11:39.11 | Fisker | i'm almost thinking about opening a ticket |
| 11:39.15 | Fisker | just for the lulz |
| 11:40.31 | karl_w_w | do it |
| 11:40.52 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/180d5a34-5825-4d37-b183-650e45832cc7.jpg |
| 11:43.22 | Fisker | btw amro |
| 11:43.25 | Fisker | seems like you were wrong |
| 11:43.46 | Fisker | apparently home latency is latency to chat, auction house, and similar such sillyness |
| 11:44.04 | Fisker | and world latency is latency to the realm, combat, players, etc. |
| 11:44.14 | Fisker | what an assbackwards as fuck latency meter to make |
| 11:44.26 | Fisker | doesn't even make sense |
| 11:44.53 | karl_w_w | i love the people who think constantly pulling trash out of dps range makes dungeons go faster |
| 11:45.48 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 11:45.51 | Fisker | i'm staring at a page |
| 11:45.52 | Fisker | http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/4124/motorola-atrix--sim-free-unlocked--black-- |
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| 11:53.46 | harl | wuff wuff |
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| 12:03.44 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
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| 12:15.00 | Derabo | hello |
| 12:15.13 | Derabo | Its me again having problems with xml :> |
| 12:15.43 | Derabo | I dont get how to add Text into my UI. I know that I have to set it in <Layer> blocks |
| 12:15.49 | Derabo | but it doesnt show ingame |
| 12:15.52 | Derabo | http://pastebin.com/ES2M5U0R |
| 12:15.56 | Derabo | is my current code |
| 12:17.40 | widgertick | Well, there's nothing there for displaying any text |
| 12:17.46 | widgertick | Does your frame show up okay? |
| 12:18.06 | widgertick | Hrm, on Button... |
| 12:18.11 | Derabo | yepp. the frame with a close button |
| 12:18.26 | Derabo | I know there is no text code in it at the moment |
| 12:18.30 | Derabo | all I tried didnt work |
| 12:18.33 | haste | I'd recommend you to indent your code in the future |
| 12:18.41 | haste | XML can get pretty hard to read when it isn't |
| 12:18.44 | Kraftman | link the code that you tried |
| 12:18.46 | Derabo | what does ident mean? |
| 12:19.05 | Derabo | tried the example code from http://www.wowwiki.com/XML/FontString |
| 12:19.12 | Derabo | inside Layer and Layers blocks |
| 12:20.09 | haste | Derabo: proper formatting, basically use tabs/spaces to indicate blocks |
| 12:20.26 | Xinhuan | indent is short for indentation |
| 12:20.29 | Derabo | hmmm I did. Or am I getting you wrong? |
| 12:20.41 | Derabo | or is there another standard for xml? |
| 12:20.51 | Kraftman | you could scrap it and just use lua :D |
| 12:21.08 | Derabo | oh thought you can do UI stuff just with xml |
| 12:21.35 | Xinhuan | well, when an XML tag is inside another, its expected to be indented 2 spaces in |
| 12:21.36 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 12:21.37 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 12:21.44 | Xinhuan | so on line 7, its wrong indentation |
| 12:21.47 | haste | http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/336969/ compare this to yours Derabo :P |
| 12:21.55 | Kraftman | Derabo: can you link what you have tried |
| 12:21.56 | Xinhuan | and you couldn't tell the beginning of line 37 easily |
| 12:22.04 | Xinhuan | with the matching line 7 |
| 12:22.07 | Kraftman | its kinda hard to tell ehwere you are going wrogn without seeing what you're doing |
| 12:22.14 | Xinhuan | errr |
| 12:22.17 | Xinhuan | i was wrong HAHA |
| 12:22.22 | Xinhuan | line 37 opens another section |
| 12:22.44 | Derabo | yeah I know what you mean. thats really easier to look at than mine :D |
| 12:23.05 | Derabo | but to come back to lua. is it easier for little UI stuff like this? |
| 12:23.33 | Xinhuan | its debatable |
| 12:23.40 | Xinhuan | and up to author preference |
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| 12:23.59 | haste | has forgotten how to write XML for WoW. |
| 12:24.14 | Xinhuan | the main advantage of doing it in lua is the ability to defer frame creation until the time it is really needed (for eg, first time the addon's UI is shown) |
| 12:24.20 | Derabo | hmmmm would like to give it a try. at the moment I like lua way more than xml... |
| 12:24.59 | Xinhuan | deferring frame creation doesn't necessarily save memory usage by the way |
| 12:25.14 | Xinhuan | because the code (function) used to create the frame can be pretty large itself |
| 12:25.16 | Derabo | are there any good tutorials or documentations you would recommend? |
| 12:25.36 | Xinhuan | nope. just browse your addon folder and read existing code of existing addons you have |
| 12:25.46 | Xinhuan | start with small addons |
| 12:26.19 | Derabo | hmmmm know any small addon to begin with? ^^ |
| 12:26.31 | Xinhuan | well, i don't know what addons you have installed to begin with |
| 12:26.49 | Derabo | I could just download one if you know a good one to learn from :D |
| 12:26.59 | Derabo | already had a look of most of mine and they all were pretty complex |
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| 12:27.55 | Xinhuan | you could try looking at Omen:CreateFrames() function |
| 12:28.11 | Xinhuan | and try to visualize what the equivalent would be in XML |
| 12:28.22 | Xinhuan | i assume you have Omen installed ^^ |
| 12:28.27 | Derabo | sure |
| 12:28.29 | Derabo | let me have a look |
| 12:28.32 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
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| 12:29.22 | Derabo | so for example 'self.TitleText = self.Title:CreateFontString(nil, nil, "GameFontNormal")' creates a simple string in lua? |
| 12:29.33 | Kraftman | Derabo: http://kraftman.pastey.net/146011 |
| 12:29.52 | Kraftman | theres a small chunk of lua to look at for creating a draggable frame with a texture |
| 12:30.05 | Xinhuan | that's essentially the same as a <Fontstring inherits="GameFontNormal"> </Fontstring> in XML |
| 12:30.25 | Derabo | ah this seems way easier than xml for me right now |
| 12:30.45 | Derabo | but there is no documentation for it? |
| 12:30.50 | Kraftman | there is |
| 12:30.55 | Xinhuan | the anchoring functions and stuff would be done as <Anchors> and <Anchor point=> tags in XML |
| 12:30.58 | Kraftman | !api createframe |
| 12:30.58 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 12:31.01 | Kraftman | etc |
| 12:31.15 | Xinhuan | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/ |
| 12:31.21 | Xinhuan | you can check out the Widget API section |
| 12:31.24 | Xinhuan | for frames |
| 12:31.34 | Derabo | ok cool. thank you very much. I'll give it a try :) |
| 12:32.23 | Xinhuan | just remember XML can be useful, generally, the original concept is to separate frame and UI creation from the functional code to run them |
| 12:32.37 | Xinhuan | in vanilla wow, CreateFrame() didn't even exist |
| 12:32.44 | Xinhuan | so all wow addons were forced to used XML for all frames |
| 12:33.23 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:33.29 | Fisker | are you with me? |
| 12:33.45 | Elkano | XML is usefull for templates and static stuff |
| 12:33.47 | A-KO | I still prefer xml to lua frame creation, but I can see where people would prefer one over the other. |
| 12:34.05 | Kraftman | depends how much you're doing i guess |
| 12:34.28 | Kraftman | if half my .lua is setting up the frames to use, I'd rather have it in xml isntead |
| 12:34.43 | Kraftman | but if its just a few lines then i like to keep it all together |
| 12:35.15 | Xinhuan | do you know 1/3 of omen's code is just the options table for the config? lol |
| 12:35.24 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 12:35.35 | A-KO | the tricky part is lua that changes/modifies/updates frames. Do yo ukeep that with the xml or keep it in the lua? |
| 12:35.44 | Xinhuan | the actual addon minus libraries and config is barely 230 kb ram |
| 12:35.58 | A-KO | it doesn't matter where you put it of course ultimately, you can call it either way--but just a preference thing :P |
| 12:36.08 | Xinhuan | its the libraries for the config that make up the remainder 800k ram |
| 12:36.14 | Fisker | ARE YOU WITH ME? |
| 12:36.23 | nebula169 | the only thing useful about xml is setting up templates |
| 12:36.29 | nebula169 | which usually isn't even that useful |
| 12:36.39 | mikma | fisker needs a boyfriend, quick, someone other than me take him |
| 12:37.32 | Fisker | lakridspibe mikma |
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| 12:44.56 | Elkano | but still needed for stuff like AecureAuraHeader :/ |
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| 13:02.40 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrbHykKUfTM |
| 13:06.33 | bluspacecow | interesting. |
| 13:16.59 | kraftman | anyone know whats changed in this hotfix? |
| 13:22.30 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:22.34 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:22.46 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 13:22.48 | bluspacecow | @kraftman uno momento |
| 13:22.59 | Fisker | is that march 6th or june 3rd? |
| 13:23.12 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389#blog |
| 13:23.17 | Fisker | baww |
| 13:23.22 | Fisker | i could just watch the trailer |
| 13:23.23 | bluspacecow | also listed on mmo-champion |
| 13:24.21 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:24.23 | Fisker | i could kill you |
| 13:24.24 | Fisker | for free |
| 13:24.32 | kraftman | tyvm :) |
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| 14:00.39 | airtonix | Fisker: i'm going to to sleep, so nows the best time for you to flee |
| 14:00.55 | airtonix | due to lack of pursuit, etc |
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| 14:59.31 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:58.17 | Thunder_Child | heh, mozy stoped their unlimited backup data plan, and when i go to backblaze i see "Welcome Mozy Users! Backblaze is committed to continue offering unlimited storage. " |
| 16:03.20 | Fisker | i'm not a mozy user |
| 16:03.45 | Thunder_Child | i will alert the media |
| 16:05.55 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 16:07.59 | karl_w_w | because it's big news |
| 16:13.56 | Fisker | i don't think that it is |
| 16:17.07 | karl_w_w | hey the forums have an ignore feature! |
| 16:17.11 | karl_w_w | i did not know what |
| 16:17.59 | Fisker | what forums? |
| 16:18.06 | karl_w_w | wow forums |
| 16:18.30 | Fisker | LOL |
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| 16:24.52 | Fisker | hmm |
| 16:24.58 | Fisker | wow is really acting up since the update today |
| 16:26.38 | bluspacecow | its all fisker |
| 16:26.41 | bluspacecow | 's |
| 16:26.42 | bluspacecow | fault |
| 16:26.46 | Fisker | k bluspacecow |
| 16:26.52 | Fisker | anyone know what it changed? |
| 16:26.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: in what way? lag again? |
| 16:26.55 | Fisker | tooltips and shit? |
| 16:26.59 | Fisker | no lag Stanzilla |
| 16:27.09 | Fisker | but it crashes at some kalimdor.adt file |
| 16:27.14 | Fisker | error #134 |
| 16:27.16 | bluspacecow | mmo champion has a good summary |
| 16:27.20 | bluspacecow | as well as |
| 16:27.20 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389#blog |
| 16:27.29 | Fisker | hotfixes don't require client patches bluspacecow |
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| 16:27.42 | kd3 | oh ho... so they backed down on the exalted change |
| 16:27.47 | Fisker | old kd3 |
| 16:27.50 | bluspacecow | strangely enough the changes for 4.0.6a is listed on there |
| 16:27.54 | kd3 | just woke up |
| 16:28.18 | Fisker | oh bluspacecow |
| 16:29.24 | Fisker | and after a repair it works fine again |
| 16:29.25 | Fisker | QQ |
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| 16:31.48 | Fisker | traps kd3 in a cage |
| 16:31.52 | Nobgul-ipad | whats the html code for a line? </hr> |
| 16:32.26 | kd3 | <hr/> |
| 16:32.32 | foxlit | <hr> |
| 16:32.37 | Fisker | [hr] |
| 16:32.40 | Nobgul-ipad | ty |
| 16:32.49 | Nobgul-ipad | <hr /> |
| 16:32.50 | foxlit | a "horizontal rule" |
| 16:32.54 | Nobgul-ipad | Yer |
| 16:33.03 | Fisker | i hate rules that are horizontal |
| 16:33.06 | foxlit | the slash is only there if you're after XHTML |
| 16:33.06 | Nobgul-ipad | Any way to format it with html? |
| 16:33.20 | Nobgul-ipad | It's kinda skimpy |
| 16:33.27 | kd3 | sure. that's what css is for |
| 16:33.42 | Nobgul-ipad | ugh ok |
| 16:33.51 | Nobgul-ipad | back to my madein gimp lines |
| 16:33.57 | Fisker | counter-strike: source? |
| 16:34.42 | Nobgul-ipad | accually ill just add it to my css |
| 16:38.07 | Fisker | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH foxlit |
| 16:38.12 | Fisker | http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180060_495681785447_720630447_6647570_5661926_n.jpg |
| 16:38.17 | Fisker | a lot of interesting tv tonight |
| 16:38.28 | foxlit | Doing it wrong, Fisker. |
| 16:38.31 | nebula169 | mmm |
| 16:38.35 | foxlit | The punchline goes before the YEAAAAAAH! |
| 16:38.40 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:38.55 | Fisker | i couldn't afford the who though |
| 16:39.03 | Fisker | so here the punchline comes after the yeeeeeeaaaaaaah |
| 16:40.27 | haste | orgasme i kulturhuset D: |
| 16:40.36 | Fisker | i sure hope Cairenn doesn't google translate that link |
| 16:40.52 | A-KO | omg it's windy outside |
| 16:41.20 | Nobgul-ipad | lol |
| 16:41.21 | Fisker | haste kan godt li kusse |
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| 16:42.12 | haste | danish D: |
| 16:42.20 | Fisker | D: |
| 16:42.43 | Fisker | roh roh |
| 16:42.50 | Nobgul | Duits voor de overwinning |
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| 16:44.37 | Fisker | haste my man |
| 16:44.39 | Fisker | i want a tablet |
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| 16:56.00 | Fisker | dies haste |
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| 17:29.52 | Tuller | so I take it that itunes on windows does not like it when I bump font sizes up to 125% |
| 17:31.15 | zenzelezz | through DPI, or some other way? |
| 17:32.15 | foxlit | segfault, WoW? I'm disappointed :( |
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| 17:34.48 | Tuller | through DPI |
| 17:35.07 | zenzelezz | from what I hear, it's pretty common for programs to not handle DPI correctly |
| 17:35.36 | Dagmar | If you changed the DPI, you deserve what you get. |
| 17:36.17 | bluspacecow | @Tuller please include the words "double chocolate muffin" in version string of one of your next addons |
| 17:36.23 | bluspacecow | pretty pretty please |
| 17:36.41 | Tuller | perhaps in combuctor3 |
| 17:36.49 | Arrowmaster | Tuller: NOTHING on windows likes the DPI to be anything other than 96 |
| 17:37.15 | Tuller | perhaps i'm thinking of something else then: windows 7 settings, font scale |
| 17:37.49 | zenzelezz | I think that is DPI |
| 17:38.09 | zenzelezz | lua> 96 * 1.25 |
| 17:38.09 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: 120 |
| 17:38.23 | Arrowmaster | really its one of the stupidest problems of windows, all software devs are fucking retarded and dont design their UI to work in anything other than a fresh windows install |
| 17:38.48 | Tuller | honestly, itunes is the only thing i've used so far that I've noticed an issue on |
| 17:38.50 | Arrowmaster | ive seen issues where a custom theme caused all text to get cut off on the right side |
| 17:39.09 | Arrowmaster | including on windows own dialogs |
| 17:39.25 | Arrowmaster | just because the font was a little wider |
| 17:39.30 | Dagmar | DPI is the *physical size of your pixels* |
| 17:40.00 | Dagmar | It's used to calculate how many pixels high a glyph needs to be when a font is meant to be rendered at a particular point (real world) size |
| 17:40.25 | Dagmar | If you change it, it'll screw up the way your fonts are drawn |
| 17:40.32 | Arrowmaster | its the same issue as web design, idiots use DPI for measurement instead of EM |
| 17:40.52 | Arrowmaster | not DPI but pixels |
| 17:40.53 | Dagmar | Windows can handle DPI settings other than 96 just fine by the way |
| 17:41.04 | Dagmar | Older versions of windows didn't, but since XP it's been fine, so long as it's _correct_ |
| 17:41.09 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: right but the problem is stupid programs |
| 17:41.13 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: quick, hand me a 26em image! |
| 17:42.16 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah, generally people doing pixel-based theme are have their stuff just burst into flames when DPI changes |
| 17:42.36 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: ive seen older versions of office even do it |
| 17:42.44 | Arrowmaster | i think it was office 2000 |
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| 17:44.33 | amro | I don't think there's anything office hasn't done |
| 17:45.11 | Dagmar | Well, it hasn't made Visio better |
| 17:46.01 | Dagmar | Seems like they just stopped developing that when they got bought |
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| 17:51.13 | Cide | "[Patch 1.3] was largely based off [of] community suggestions on how to best balance Hell Unleashed and improving and preserving the challenge for multiplayer." |
| 17:51.46 | Cide | I like how the editor decided it was better to screw up the english by adding the "[of]" |
| 18:02.26 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 18:02.37 | foxlit | Why is there even a "Requires Enchanting (xyz)" line on enchanting rods? |
| 18:03.11 | zenzelezz | could be a hint about the level they're meant for |
| 18:03.20 | Seerah | they're bop, right? |
| 18:03.29 | foxlit | They are bop. |
| 18:03.40 | Seerah | yeah, doesn't make sense :) |
| 18:04.14 | Seerah | unless you end up with multiples in your bag for some reason and you need to know which to keep :p |
| 18:04.41 | Seerah | but I don't know who would make another lower level rod after making a higher one |
| 18:06.41 | Dagmar | Sheesh I would like to know how it is people got hte idea they should kill Frye last |
| 18:07.02 | foxlit | he activates last, doesn't he? |
| 18:07.47 | Dagmar | I don't know whether or not Baxter or Frye lights up last, but they're both up by the time Hummel is down |
| 18:08.21 | Dagmar | It's just that Hummel and Baxter use only one color, Baxter is CCable, and Frye uses _both_ |
| 18:08.32 | Fisker | it's cold foxlit |
| 18:08.36 | foxlit | It's not like the event is hard to heal, anyway |
| 18:08.42 | foxlit | The problem is that Frye runs around like a lunatic |
| 18:08.43 | Dagmar | That's true |
| 18:09.08 | Dagmar | Yeah, and Frye uses *both* colors, so while he's up you have exposure to both purple and green still |
| 18:09.19 | Dagmar | ...but you can keep Baxter CC'd the whole damn fight pretty easily |
| 18:09.26 | zenzelezz | "CCable"... it's bad when I thought that was a class name |
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| 18:09.49 | Dagmar | So if you nuke Frye second, everyone can switch to green, and the healer can go take a whiz or something. |
| 18:10.37 | foxlit | I think the difficulty level is set so that people do that fight on autopilot |
| 18:13.35 | Fisker | enchanting rods requires enchanting since you would just use the rod to disenchant and enchant items! |
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| 18:16.26 | foxlit | A fiskerific explanation <3 |
| 18:18.33 | Dagmar | Nah... but *this* is Fixkeriffic tho: A TCG loot card awards Papa Hummel's Pet Biscuits, which enlarge a non-combat pet. There may be a connection, especially as the Toxic Wasteling pet expands when it eats. |
| 18:19.08 | Dagmar | I'll probably wind up nuking that from the page before the day is up. It doesn't make any sense at all |
| 18:19.56 | Dagmar | I've got 'em both on my hunter and that pet acts no different than any other when you feed it a biscuit |
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| 19:15.29 | Shirik | Dagmar: Well they existed before the player-acquirable biscuits :) |
| 19:15.40 | Shirik | oh I misread |
| 19:15.42 | Shirik | nm |
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| 19:35.47 | Shirik | external hard drives. |
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| 19:35.50 | Shirik | best place to buy. |
| 19:35.51 | Shirik | go. |
| 19:36.16 | Shirik | also, Thunder_Child, where do you back up your pictures to? |
| 19:36.17 | zenzelezz | Victoria's Secret |
| 19:37.07 | Adys | Shirik: what kind of EHD do you need? |
| 19:37.23 | Adys | in most cases i recommend the WD MyBooks, they're cheap and last a few years without issues |
| 19:39.36 | Shirik | a few years is insufficient |
| 19:40.10 | Shirik | This is intended as a backup solution; it will be rarely used, and stored safely, but must be able to survive a long time |
| 19:40.12 | Adys | then dont get an EHD |
| 19:40.28 | Shirik | Give me another solution that will allow me to back up about 500GB |
| 19:40.33 | Adys | well a mybook wont have issues then |
| 19:40.34 | Adys | as long as you dont move it around |
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| 19:40.45 | Shirik | It will be sitting in a ESD/Fire/Waterproof safe |
| 19:40.49 | Shirik | for 99% of its life |
| 19:41.06 | Adys | only issue with EHDs is travel time |
| 19:41.18 | zenzelezz | electo-static discharge? |
| 19:41.32 | Shirik | EMF is a more appropriate term I guess |
| 19:41.34 | Adys | and the only issue i had with mine (4 year old 500gb) is an usb cable issue |
| 19:41.37 | Shirik | at work we lump ESD and EMF together |
| 19:41.43 | Shirik | since we use the same protections for both |
| 19:42.22 | Adys | Shirik: either get a 1tb (very cheap), or a 2tb and use redundant backups |
| 19:42.46 | Adys | 2nd case is only if you're really worried. as i said, had no data corruption issues, ever |
| 19:43.05 | Adys | also some of the mybooks support ethernet, but those are expensive |
| 19:43.33 | Shirik | I will probably eventually get to the "redundant backup" part |
| 19:43.37 | Shirik | but for now I at least need one backup |
| 19:44.00 | Adys | then yeah, 2tb. its around $400, tops |
| 19:44.12 | Adys | prolly less, thats eu price |
| 19:45.09 | Shirik | I wonder if it would be cheaper to get a HD enclosure and internal HDDs |
| 19:45.12 | Shirik | it would also save sapce |
| 19:45.13 | Shirik | space |
| 19:45.31 | Adys | definitely |
| 19:45.48 | Adys | i use one of my EHDs as backup and main storage because i often swap it with the laptop |
| 19:45.53 | zenzelezz | why an enclosure? Don't you have desk space? |
| 19:46.10 | Adys | but getting two internal hds would allow for much better backups |
| 19:46.19 | Adys | and twice the storage space for the same price |
| 19:47.37 | Shirik | zenzelezz: The safe's actual internal space is quite small |
| 19:53.41 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:53.46 | Fisker | i will buy portal 2 |
| 19:56.57 | karl_w_w | i will alert the media |
| 19:57.06 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 19:57.39 | karl_w_w | because it's big news |
| 19:57.58 | Fisker | i don't think so |
| 19:58.50 | karl_w_w | that's why im on this side of the monitor and you're on that side |
| 19:59.32 | Fisker | i don't have a monitor? |
| 19:59.42 | karl_w_w | of course not |
| 19:59.52 | Fisker | gross |
| 20:00.05 | Fisker | someone camped a bank for a weekend and shat inside a sports bag so they could rob it |
| 20:00.20 | karl_w_w | 144? |
| 20:01.14 | karl_w_w | why didnt they take something better to shit in? |
| 20:01.49 | Fisker | idk |
| 20:03.52 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 20:04.00 | Fisker | http://bj-trading.dk/ |
| 20:04.02 | Fisker | do you want? |
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| 20:06.41 | Fisker | stares at Shirik |
| 20:07.32 | Fisker | Shirik i have a solution |
| 20:07.38 | Fisker | floppies |
| 20:07.42 | Fisker | lots of them |
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| 20:09.04 | amro | fisker is floppy |
| 20:09.06 | amro | whodathunkit |
| 20:09.13 | Fisker | i see right through you amro |
| 20:13.18 | Shirik | (12:11:54) (chzzeggbot) Q51: (Geography) What is the basic unit of currency for Iceland ? |
| 20:13.18 | Shirik | (12:11:59) (Fluffernutter) ice |
| 20:13.18 | Shirik | (12:12:59) (Shirik) ice |
| 20:13.43 | foxlit | You're both horrible? :) |
| 20:13.51 | Shirik | What is the answer! |
| 20:13.53 | Shirik | It's still active |
| 20:13.59 | Shirik | (and I refuse to google because that's cheating) |
| 20:14.01 | Shirik | (asking here is not |
| 20:14.20 | foxlit | ) |
| 20:14.35 | Shirik | ok someone got it ( |
| 20:14.36 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:14.38 | Shirik | I blame you |
| 20:14.41 | foxlit | crowns! |
| 20:15.28 | SinusPi | clowns! |
| 20:15.49 | SinusPi | is Iceland in the EU? :> |
| 20:16.27 | foxlit | But seriously, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Icelandic currencies are all local variants of crowns |
| 20:16.47 | SinusPi | like 0re is a crown, uh. |
| 20:16.59 | Fisker | hello Shirik |
| 20:17.06 | Shirik | hello Fisker |
| 20:17.19 | Fisker | i want a tablet |
| 20:17.35 | amro | Shirik: ISK |
| 20:17.41 | Shirik | KSI |
| 20:17.50 | Shirik | what is ISK |
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| 20:17.55 | amro | EVE currency |
| 20:17.59 | amro | which is stronger I hear. |
| 20:18.29 | Shirik | I don't play eve |
| 20:19.13 | amro | anyway |
| 20:19.14 | amro | it's ISK |
| 20:19.16 | amro | not KSI |
| 20:19.28 | amro | the eve currency is named after the icelandic one |
| 20:19.49 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:20.47 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 20:25.02 | Fisker | you |
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| 20:29.52 | Alamak | Hello, fellow addon devs. =) |
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| 20:31.21 | Alamak | Anyone actually around, or is this channel mostly full of idle? |
| 20:32.48 | Dagmar | SHUSH! You'll wake them! |
| 20:32.49 | Alamak | lol |
| 20:32.55 | foxlit | braaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnsssss? |
| 20:34.33 | Alamak | So, I've been looking around for something for quite a while lately and was unable to find anything about it, so, of course, I went to the UI forums. |
| 20:34.43 | Alamak | Which then led me here. |
| 20:35.33 | Dagmar | One moment |
| 20:35.35 | Dagmar | wrong chan |
| 20:35.45 | Maldivia | depending on the time of the day, and the day of the week/year, there's a lot of activity here |
| 20:36.04 | Alamak | I want to sticky a slash command chat function, like party, whisper, et. al. |
| 20:36.08 | Alamak | Wrong chan? |
| 20:36.40 | Maldivia | Dagmar probably meant that the "One moment" was meant for another channel |
| 20:36.59 | Alamak | Oh. That makes much more sense than the way I took it. |
| 20:37.02 | Alamak | =) |
| 20:37.17 | Alamak | So, any suggestions from anyone as to how I might go about it? |
| 20:37.45 | Alamak | Apparently there used to be a library called satellite that accomplished the task, but I can't find it anywhere. |
| 20:37.57 | Maldivia | you want a slash command to be sticky, as if it was a chat-channel? |
| 20:38.01 | Alamak | Yes. |
| 20:38.14 | Alamak | Because it effectively is a chat channel. |
| 20:38.20 | Alamak | Just not one of the blizz default ones. |
| 20:39.29 | Alamak | The addon I'm writing allows for large group organization beyond the constraints of raid size. |
| 20:39.34 | Maldivia | the chat system should have that option, setting the chatType and stickyType attributes on the edit box should accomplice it |
| 20:40.17 | Alamak | So, if I add a custom chat type and make it sticky, then the user sends a message of that chat type, it sticks? |
| 20:40.31 | Maldivia | in theory |
| 20:40.45 | Maldivia | but look at the sticky code in ChatFrame.lua |
| 20:41.02 | Alamak | That's far too simple. It MUST be more complicated than that. =P |
| 20:41.35 | kd3 | in world news, courtesy of fark: "After wrapping up the Egyptian leg of the tour last night, The Middle East Democracy Extravaganza is appearing today until further notice in Algeria. Will someone grab me a t-shirt?" |
| 20:44.49 | amro | kd3: nah, nothing happened |
| 20:44.59 | kd3 | yup |
| 20:45.19 | amro | kd3: and it was organised by a party that's just as broken as the current party... so no thanks |
| 20:45.40 | Alamak | This is going to sound like a nub question. Where does ChatFrame.lua live? |
| 20:45.50 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 20:45.50 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:46.07 | kd3 | you can view it online at one of the latter links |
| 20:46.14 | Alamak | oh. art |
| 20:46.21 | kd3 | code too |
| 20:46.24 | Alamak | The one I don't have |
| 20:46.36 | kd3 | also, that first link is wrong |
| 20:46.38 | Alamak | Because I didn't realize it had code. lol |
| 20:47.28 | kd3 | no, purl, framexml is Export code art from the client by using the console commands "ExportInterfaceCode code" and "ExportInterfaceCode art"; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:48.39 | kd3 | sigh |
| 20:48.59 | Alamak | I went with the wowprogramming option |
| 20:49.06 | Alamak | Love that site |
| 20:49.41 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 20:49.41 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, framexml is Export code art from the client by using the console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art"; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:49.49 | kd3 | there we go, now updated for 4.0.6 |
| 20:50.10 | Maldivia | Alamak: for online viewing, I'd go with go-hero instead... color coded :) |
| 20:53.35 | Alamak | Good call. |
| 20:54.06 | Alamak | Wow. ChatFrame.lua's 4700 lines of code make my 800 or so lines look paltry. |
| 20:55.30 | mikma | 1 billion webpages and i can't find anything interesting |
| 20:56.07 | Maldivia | mikma: http://www.randomwebsite.com/cgi-bin/random.pl |
| 20:56.23 | Alamak | Whoah. |
| 20:56.43 | Alamak | ChatFrame is where the castsequence manager lives. |
| 20:56.49 | Alamak | Didn't expect that. |
| 20:56.58 | kd3 | there's a lot of surprises in blizz's code like that |
| 20:57.00 | kd3 | >.> |
| 20:57.01 | Maldivia | it's the macro handler, so yeah |
| 20:57.29 | Alamak | Considering macros are sequences of /commands, I don't suppose I'm surprised. |
| 20:58.56 | Alamak | Unsurprisingly, the SlashCmdList gets built here. |
| 20:59.45 | mikma | maldivia: i said interesting! |
| 21:01.47 | Shirik | (13:01:20) (chzzeggbot)          (General Knowledge) What did AOL claim had been found, on April Fool's Day in 1996 ? |
| 21:01.47 | Shirik | (13:01:27) (Fluffernutter) a reason for them to exist |
| 21:03.41 | Alamak | Anyone know where the event firing occurs? |
| 21:04.26 | Maldivia | mikma: tried the link a few times, and got some very weird shit from it :P |
| 21:04.58 | mikma | maldivia: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/downloads/date/any/ |
| 21:05.42 | mikma | maldivia: http://www.landyachtz.com/ |
| 21:06.25 | Maldivia | mikma: like the interfacelift link :P |
| 21:07.04 | mikma | screwattack.com, interesting :P |
| 21:08.17 | mikma | now what was that man who talked extremely fast with australian accent and was reviewing games |
| 21:08.31 | alestane | Zero Puncuation? |
| 21:08.37 | mikma | that |
| 21:08.39 | alestane | += t |
| 21:09.03 | alestane | I think you usually find his stuff at The Escapist. |
| 21:09.11 | mikma | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/2680-Minecraft |
| 21:11.08 | Dagmar | Yahtzee |
| 21:12.03 | alestane | I think Zero Punctuation might be his videos or something. Yahtzee sounds right. |
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| 21:24.12 | Alamak | hrm |
| 21:26.49 | Fisker | you Shirik |
| 21:26.52 | Fisker | and you kd3 |
| 21:26.56 | Fisker | but not me |
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| 21:38.22 | mikma | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1060-Washington-DC |
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| 21:52.53 | foxlit | http://lionhead.com/Fable/FableIII/Survey.aspx |
| 21:53.06 | foxlit | *REALLY* hate the survey UI |
| 21:53.50 | wereHamster | blizzard's is equally appealing |
| 21:54.16 | Dagmar | foxlit: If it has anything other than a button that says "WHERE'S THE FUCKING PC VERSION, DAMNIT!" it's doing too much |
| 21:54.19 | foxlit | There's probably a company out there that sells that software |
| 21:55.44 | Dagmar | I'd like to play another Fable, but I'm not buying a goddamn XBox to do it |
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| 22:07.17 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 22:07.25 | Fisker | i can't read that survey since i only got a console |
| 22:07.36 | Fisker | btw wereHamster i hate Blizzard's survey ui too |
| 22:07.46 | Fisker | especially since you have to rate it after your last encounter |
| 22:07.52 | Fisker | and who the fuck keeps up with that? |
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| 22:13.47 | foxlit | Heh, someone did the Alganon hand-in |
| 22:14.10 | foxlit | s/non/lon/ |
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| 22:15.06 | foxlit | The "free will" line feels random. |
| 22:16.52 | mikma | haste: http://failblog.org/2011/02/11/epic-fail-photos-contortionist-fail/ |
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| 22:20.18 | mikma | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/funny-facebook-fails-girls-are-like.jpg |
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| 22:22.00 | foxlit | Hm, they appear to have nerfed the enchanting skill required to disenchant cata rares. |
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| 22:37.00 | Fisker | i disagree foxlit |
| 22:39.00 | zenzelezz | in other words lowered the required skill? |
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| 22:42.43 | foxlit | That's another way to put it, yes |
| 22:43.46 | nevcairiel | nerfing implies making it easier for the players, so that was kinda obvious |
| 22:46.06 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: you've not heard the way some of my former guildies used the word "nerf" :) |
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| 22:49.21 | zenzelezz | I do agree though |
| 22:52.37 | Iriel | Speaking of Minecraft (earlier, at least) - http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/minecraft/render-2011-02-12-223116-562.jpg |
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| 22:56.08 | zenzelezz | that your renderer thing Iriel? |
| 22:56.17 | Iriel | zenzelezz: Yes |
| 22:56.24 | zenzelezz | pretty cool |
| 22:56.31 | Iriel | zenzelezz: that's the first pass of torches, they're still cheating somewhat but they're getting there |
| 22:56.48 | Iriel | (it's more that the illumination model is a bit of a hack) |
| 22:56.50 | zenzelezz | is that in Java or something else? |
| 22:56.54 | Iriel | Java |
| 22:57.06 | zenzelezz | and it gives reasonable performance? |
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| 22:57.27 | Iriel | well, for a ray tracer, it's reasonable. 8-) |
| 22:57.32 | zenzelezz | there goes my coworker's theory that it was Java's fault Minecraft ran slow on his machine |
| 22:57.34 | Iriel | It's not real time by any means 8-) |
| 22:58.04 | Iriel | Minecraft is a bit of a pig, especially if you're running the server |
| 22:59.13 | zenzelezz | that goes for playing solo too I guess? |
| 22:59.54 | Iriel | Probably, though i'm not sure how a couple of the MP feedback loops end up working in singleplayer. |
| 22:59.56 | zenzelezz | I've not tried Minecraft yet, and my coworker's not the best at explaining things... he gets all riled up whenever he's not winning everything |
| 23:00.19 | A-KO | Minecraft is pretty awesome |
| 23:00.25 | A-KO | I'm tempted to set a MC server up in the office at work |
| 23:00.44 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:00.50 | zenzelezz | I'm sure my coworker would, if it didn't cut into his precious Folding@Home cycles |
| 23:01.28 | Iriel | I need to clean up the launch options on the renderer so it's easy for others to fiddle with |
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| 23:02.16 | Fisker | i like you Iriel |
| 23:03.23 | Iriel | an alternate view: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/minecraft/render-2011-02-12-230200-874.jpg |
| 23:03.28 | Iriel | Fisker: awww, thanks. |
| 23:04.31 | foxlit | o.O |
| 23:04.41 | foxlit | Enchanting vellums for 6g on AH :/ |
| 23:05.01 | SinusPi | asshat bait |
| 23:05.07 | Fisker | yeah foxlit :( |
| 23:05.19 | Fisker | i pobably got a stack or two during leveling before realizing |
| 23:05.21 | Fisker | i was pissed off |
| 23:06.28 | foxlit | The enchanting supplies vendor is like two yards away from any enchanting trainer :/ |
| 23:07.27 | SinusPi | rich asshat is good. |
| 23:08.43 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 23:08.47 | Xyphoid | dust of disappearance sells regularly for me |
| 23:09.05 | Fisker | wasn't the point that they would be cheaper to craft anyway Xyphoid ? |
| 23:09.09 | foxlit | Yes, that one is equally surprising. |
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| 23:09.27 | foxlit | Though typically not as outragious. |
| 23:10.18 | Fisker | i was doing something |
| 23:10.20 | Fisker | but now i forgot |
| 23:11.05 | Xyphoid | i doubt vellums are ever worth crafting, dust of disappearance isn't on my server |
| 23:11.59 | Fisker | i don't think you can craft vellums anymore |
| 23:12.27 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=52739 |
| 23:12.51 | foxlit | It's possible, but you're waiting good minor research ink. |
| 23:13.21 | Fisker | how silly |
| 23:16.59 | Xyphoid | still surprised at how lucrative inscription is now |
| 23:17.06 | Xyphoid | i guess a lot of people quit |
| 23:17.49 | foxlit | Inscription product pricing is random to the extent of being stupid |
| 23:18.09 | Fisker | i want to kill dansk net foxlit |
| 23:19.02 | Fisker | It's just about pathetic as the mcdonalds commercial where they say their beef is 100% pure ground beef |
| 23:19.11 | Fisker | about as* |
| 23:19.42 | karl_w_w | what else would beef be? |
| 23:20.37 | Xyphoid | mechanically separated meat product? |
| 23:21.24 | cbreak | 20% salt |
| 23:21.34 | cbreak | and 10% preservants |
| 23:21.37 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 23:22.16 | A-KO | god they put so much salt in fast food it's disgusting |
| 23:22.19 | A-KO | it's hard for me to eat it now |
| 23:22.22 | A-KO | and I've eaten a lot of fast food |
| 23:22.45 | A-KO | it's like "have a little beef with your salt burger" |
| 23:22.46 | Fisker | water content 37.7% to 62.4% (mean, 49%), meat content 2.1% to 14.8% (median, 12.1%), Skeletal tissue, Connective tissue, Blood vessels, Peripheral nerve tissue, Plant material, Dirt, Adipose tissue and Bone and Cartilage |
| 23:22.51 | karl_w_w | if the ad says their beef is 100% beef it's impossible for them to be lying |
| 23:24.57 | mckenziemc | !api tcontains |
| 23:24.57 | lua_bot | EquipmentSetContainsLockedItems: Returns whether an equipment set contains locked items (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/EquipmentSetContainsLockedItems) |
| 23:25.03 | cbreak | the problem is: there's more stuff than beef in that burger |
| 23:25.17 | Jamash | 110% beef |
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| 23:26.25 | karl_w_w | no there's mustard and ketchup and mildly warmed onion, at the very least :P |
| 23:27.24 | cbreak | salt, fat, salt, white wheat bread, salt, some alibi salad, salt, cheese, salt and maybe an alibi tomato |
| 23:27.37 | cbreak | oh, and some french fries with salt as side dish |
| 23:28.12 | karl_w_w | is the alibi there in case the burger gets accused of murdering fat people? |
| 23:29.01 | mckenziemc | salt, or other sodium-based 'flavor enhancers' ? |
| 23:29.03 | karl_w_w | you forgot pickles |
| 23:32.47 | cbreak | sodium is Natrium (Na)? |
| 23:33.43 | foxlit | Yes |
| 23:34.41 | foxlit | Expect, of course, natrium is Sodium (Na) |
| 23:35.59 | Shirik | Iriel: Ping |
| 23:36.02 | Shirik | Or Thunder_Child |
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| 23:47.56 | airtonix | throws a krone down at Fiskers feet. |
| 23:48.11 | airtonix | DANCE PEASANT! |
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