IRC log for #wowuidev on 20110118

00:12.30Ackisare 10/25 mans from wrath on the same lock out now?
00:13.12Krapshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elUVA0O93Oo&feature=player_embedded
00:32.23DWSRYes.
00:32.32DWSRAckis: Are you talking about the shadow or holy/disc values?
00:32.40DWSRBecause healing is much more subjective than DPS.
00:32.49DWSRwell.
00:32.57DWSRSubjective is the wrong word.
00:33.52DWSRKraps: Yeah.
00:34.36KrapsDWSR: ?
00:35.03DWSRKraps: Re: Your link.
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00:43.30AckisDWSR: even shadow was off
00:44.00Ackisand I understand what you mean about the values for holy/disc
00:44.14DWSRHow far off?
00:44.27DWSRBecause it might not have been updated to the patch.
00:46.32AckisDefault: ["HitRating"] = 100, ["MasteryRating"] = 100, ["SpellPower"] = 76, ["CritRating"] = 54, ["HasteRating"] = 50, ["Spirit"] = 100, ["Intellect"] = 76
00:46.34AckisMine: ["HitRating"] = 0, ["MasteryRating"] = 38.57, ["SpellPower"] = 79.35, ["CritRating"] = 40.40, ["HasteRating"] = 50.31, ["Spirit"] = 37.32, ["Intellect"] = 100,
00:47.01Ackismy hit is a bit different than EJ however
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01:19.18Ackishttp://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=100-MB-PB01-BR&family=Accessories+-+Hardware&sw=4 does that actually improve performance?
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02:02.15foxlitLevel 74: the worst level ever?
02:04.02Primersigh...is there any way to tell what's causing a zone in hang at runtime?
02:04.04PrimerIs there no log?
02:04.44Primer"infinite loop detected in addon foo"
02:04.46Primeror something
02:04.55foxlithow would you know if a loop is infinite?
02:05.09Primereh?
02:05.15Primerwhen it repeats 100k times or so?
02:05.21Seerahif it's stuck in the loop, it can't get an error to you
02:05.21Primerput a counter on it
02:05.27Primerof course it can
02:05.31Seerahwhat can?
02:06.03foxlitBut why 100k?
02:06.08foxlitI mean, for instance
02:07.48Tulleromnicc would blow up then :P
02:07.56foxlitlocal i = 4; repeat do f = true for j=i-2,2 do if isPrime(j) and isPrime(i-j) then f=false; break end end until f
02:08.04foxlitIs that an infinite loop? :)
02:08.10Seerahfor your counter method, you would have to know something would get stuck on infinite loop first.
02:08.22foxlit[yes, it is, because I missed an increment]
02:08.32foxlitlocal i = 4; repeat do f = true for j=i-2,2 do if isPrime(j) and isPrime(i-j) then f=false; break member:end member:end i = i + 1; until f
02:08.36Primerwell, let me put it this way
02:08.43Primerhow do browsers determine it?
02:08.53PrimerThey assign a limited amount of time for execution
02:09.03Primeris some non-blocking fashion
02:09.22Primeronce that time limit is reached it pops up that thing that asks you if you want to stop it
02:09.53PrimerI just wish there was some sort of reporting
02:10.07Primerright now I've had to alt-f4 the game 3 times zoning into HoO
02:10.41Primerall because druid healers are gimped and can't keep me up...I've died 3 times of the first set of mobs
02:11.17Primerplus DK tanks are gimped. Fucking squishy as hell
02:11.20foxlitIf you're dying on the first pull of mobs.
02:11.25foxlitIt's not the healers' fault.
02:11.30Primerplease
02:11.33PrimerI have a resto druid
02:11.35foxlitEspecially in HoO :P
02:11.56PrimerI have a million fucking cooldowns as a DK tank
02:11.58Seerahand I've seen DK tanks stay up just fine (even with a druid healer)
02:12.13Primerwell, DPS didn't kill the big caster fast enough
02:12.16foxlitAnd it's all for naught if you can't find your Mind Freeze button.
02:12.23Primereh?
02:12.25foxlitOr your group can't CC.
02:12.37Primerhis cast is like .8 seconds
02:12.45Primerand he spams it over and over
02:12.56PrimerAMS....MF...cast cast cast cast
02:12.58Seerahis this still the healer's problem? :)
02:13.00PrimerVP
02:13.41foxlitFor advanced users, find the Purge/Dispel button.
02:13.48AckisShirik
02:13.57foxlit[Mages: spellsteal!]
02:14.06Primerit's everyone else's fault except mine
02:14.08Primerthere
02:15.08Primerhate pugs
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02:15.21Wobin^
02:16.22foxlitYou know what sucks in HoO? Mob naming!
02:16.31foxlitI'm disappointed at the amount of casting Runecasters do.
02:16.40Wobinlike.. "fred"?
02:16.41AckisBibi: vous etes anglaise!!!!!
02:16.59Wobinfoxlit: lack thereof?
02:17.22foxlitWobin: I think they have one spell. That they might use -- or might not use -- once in a pull.
02:17.22Wobinthere's that good shadowpriests forum which had that thread of all the MCable mobs in Caty dungeons
02:17.41Ackisshadowpriests.com?
02:17.48Wobincould be, could be
02:23.20PrimerI read that article for SPs off the front page of MMO a week or so ago. Was pretty good
02:23.39AckisShirik: http://www.wowhead.com/item=57868 w/ 15 stats 20 master/20 int gem & 20 int/20 spirit gem OR http://www.wowhead.com/item=58159 w/ 40 spirit enchant and 18 int/26 stam & 30 haste gem (wtf was I thinking about with those gem choices)
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02:53.59kd3oh, woot. the built-in interface extraction code works
02:56.19foxlitThey've unbroken it?
02:56.42kd3yup. it's in ptr/BlizzardInterfaceCode
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02:58.56kd3whee; no diffs from my extract and blizz's.
03:03.22kd3though they're extracting the gluexml... har
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03:28.14Thunder_Childhttp://www.myjones.com/limited/wizards
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03:43.27Cairenn|afkokay, I need someone with stronger google-fu than I seem to have - I am looking for an on-line version of the Dairy Queen commercial with the talking lips where they are talking about the sweet deals menu and they talk about how they can control everything "including you.  Look into my ey...I don't have eyes ... look into my uvula"
03:44.17Cairenn|afkI have tried Youtube, I've tried Google, I have put in every combination of words I can think of, and I can not find that one commercial online anywhere
03:48.33KarlKFInot this one i take it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjlOfrHCMsk
03:48.52Cairenn|afknope
03:50.22Cairenn|afkI've been able to find that one lots of times, and I've found /references/ to the one I'm looking for (it came out in 2009), but I can't find the commercial itself
03:50.47SeerahCairenn|afk: heh, it's mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palatine_uvula
03:50.49Seerahbut no video
03:50.54Cairenn|afkyeah, exactly
03:50.58Cairenn|afkthere, and other places
03:59.14KarlKFIthe internet doesn't have
03:59.15KarlKFIit
04:00.05Cairenn|afkoh yes, and I tried to find it on DQ's site itself, also no luck
04:00.46Krapswhy is shamwow still advertising on youtube?
04:01.17Shirikis the proud owner of a new car :D
04:01.43Krapsgrats
04:07.04AurorusGrats!
04:07.06Auroruswhat kind of car?
04:07.22AurorusRULE 34 IS BEING BROKEN!
04:13.31Krapshttp://www.techspot.com/guides/buying/page5.html
04:14.25Krapsi can afford that
04:14.42Krapscan i?
04:25.57Krapsso some people made a real-life Fornax magazine
04:27.43DagmarHow long until EA brings the hammer down, do you think?
04:28.37KrapsDagmar: its only online
04:28.54Krapswas released august 4th
04:29.09Krapsits in pdf format
04:29.16DagmarYech. Nasty.
04:29.43Krapshottttt
04:29.56DagmarNo, it's PDF.
04:30.37Krapslol
04:34.56Krapsfirst time i get how the Citadel works http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/051/6/e/Mass_Effect_2_Citadel_by_droot1986.jpg
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04:39.13DJJeff2why is Windrunner crashing?
04:39.18DJJeff2who is hacking the server
04:39.27DJJeff2this happend twice this week
04:39.31DJJeff2its pissing me off
04:39.41DJJeff2people trying to dupe gold I bet
04:39.45Ackislot of servers are down
04:40.11DJJeff2http://www.blizzhackers.cc/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=366488
04:40.44ShirikAurorus: Chevy Equinox
04:41.09Aurorusnice Shirik - set you back much comparatively?
04:41.41Cairenn|afkDJJeff2: please don't link to that site on here
04:42.09DJJeff2ah just curious why the realms are down :(
04:42.22airtonixsure
04:42.26ShirikActually no Aurorus
04:42.28Cairenn|afkfinding out is fine, just don't go linking to that site
04:42.36ShirikIt was less than I had budgeted
04:42.53DJJeff2I hope blizz knows about that site
04:42.56DJJeff2so they can hotfix anything they do
04:43.08Cairenn|afkof course they do, just like they know about mmowned
04:43.20Krapswtf @ that site
04:43.52Cairenn|afkI've never understood the mentality behind doing shit like that
04:44.19kd3because they got used to game genies on consoles and want to do the same thing in every game?
04:44.24kd3that's the only answer I can come up with
04:45.48Cairenn|afkthese are the same people that spray graffiti and knock over mail boxes, and I just don't understand the fun in it
04:46.18DJJeff2ETA on servers being down and why blizz hasnt posted in the forums about it
04:46.23kd3soon
04:47.02KrapsDJJeff2: we dont work for blizzard
04:47.42kd3http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869416087
04:48.52DJJeff2if it was related to bad weather we would have been kicked off
04:48.59DJJeff2I could still see trade chat
04:49.09DJJeff2so its deff an internal issue
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04:53.04foxlit"You recently read a 197 page story about a duel between two healers. You have a chance to heal yourself when dealing damage to an enemy."
04:54.16kd3o_O
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04:55.31airtonixCairenn|afk, you can never understand a Ritilan Riddled Mind
04:55.43Cairenn|afkapparently not
05:08.23Krapswhat happens in Omega stays in Omega http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/257/c/a/mass_effect__omega_by_exullium-d2yq6z7.jpg
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05:43.36bluspacecowhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869416087#1
05:43.56bluspacecowmeh too late
05:43.57bluspacecownvm
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05:58.01Shirikhi Cide
05:58.14Cidehi Shirik
05:58.18CideI had the worst raid ever today
05:58.20Shirikare you jealous of my new car?
05:58.27CideI have not seen your new car
05:58.46Cidebut seeing as I don't have a car, probably
05:58.47Shirikso you are jealous of having not seenit
05:59.19AntiarcDo any of you use both Google Talk and World of Logs?
05:59.28Antiarc(or s/Google Talk/jabber/)
05:59.49Cideno and no
06:00.19Antiarcwell boo
06:02.28Wobinwhat's the link between the two?
06:02.55Cidethey are not used by Cide, Destroyer of Worlds
06:03.43CideShirik: not only did our raid begin 1.5 hours late, we spent 3 hours wiping to maloriak because we only brought useless people with no gear to the point where our tank was second on dps
06:03.45ShirikI do Antiarc
06:03.49Antiarchooray
06:04.04Antiarcadd ratemyraid@jabber.org to your contacts list, then IM it a URL for the damage chart for one of your kills
06:04.05CideFML
06:04.06ShirikCide: win
06:04.22Shirikthat would imply that I think you are a friend
06:04.27WobinAntiarc: oh, interesting
06:04.28Shirikkidding
06:04.39Wobinif I were raiding, I'd totally do that =P
06:05.28Shirik"Did not recognize your request as a valid WoL kill damage chart"
06:05.39Shirikoh it has to be a damage chart
06:05.39Shirikboo
06:05.40Cidewhy would you want your raid rated bya  bot
06:05.41ShirikI'm a healer
06:05.41Shirikfu
06:05.45Cideby a bot
06:05.52Cidelike
06:05.54Cidewhat's the use case
06:06.15Antiarcsomeone broke it!
06:06.18AntiarcLet me fix that
06:06.25Shirikwas that me?
06:06.27Shirik:(
06:06.31Cideprobably
06:06.38ShirikI got the "parsing..."
06:06.43Shirikand then it was like "ok nap time"
06:06.50Cidenegative healing score breaks it I hear
06:06.59ShirikThat can't be it
06:07.01Shirikyou aren't in the raid
06:07.10AntiarcGive it a single kill rather than all your bosses
06:07.13Cideeven if that was true it's still a bad argument
06:07.14AntiarcAnd trying to figure out why it broke now
06:07.24Cidefor that property is not necessarily unique to me!
06:07.49Shirikit didn'teven respond to that
06:08.29Cideanyway bedtime
06:08.31Cidegood night
06:10.22AntiarcShirik: Give it a single boss kill now
06:10.24AntiarcSorry.
06:10.34AntiarcOh, you did
06:10.51Shirikhow are you going to tell me someone with 17k dps is an F?
06:11.41AntiarcExpected DPS is not DPS done
06:12.31ShirikT4W is hard anyway
06:12.34Shirikthat log is kinda.... wrong
06:12.39Shirikbecause it doesn't record everything
06:14.22Antiarcheh, that'd probably be the problem
06:14.23AntiarcBut it is pulling the top 200 averages + std dev from stateofdps.com
06:14.23AntiarcThen comparing your raid's DPS against that
06:14.23Antiarcconclave is a weird fight though, yeah
06:17.30Shirikwhat exactly is "expected DPS" based on?
06:17.32Shirikgear?
06:17.35Shirikclass?
06:19.22Antiarcclass/spec/fight
06:19.26Antiarcstateofdps.com
06:19.42Shirikbut not gear
06:20.15ShirikI'm not sure I can agree with any kind of assertion like that
06:24.35bleeter(NSFW) http://soundcloud.com/danilic/lol-nova-sydney-news-blooper
06:25.29AntiarcWell, it has the variance built in
06:25.38AntiarcGear is obviously a less countable factor
06:25.59AntiarcBut the idea is that if you're a generally well-progressed group you can use that sort of tool to help measure your players' performance relative to their class/spec potnetial on a fight
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06:43.29Antiarcalso Shirik, halfus is a really weird fight to compare on
06:44.17AntiarcBecause all the top slots are from people that sit on halfus the whole time and get the damage amp bonus longer
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07:23.03FiskerIn addition, those who purchase Portal 2 for the PlayStation 3 may unlock a Steam Play (PC & Mac) copy of Portal 2 at no additional cost by linking their PSN and Steam accounts.
07:23.06FiskerVALVE, FUCK YEAH
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08:16.13amroFisker: people still aren't going to bother with that version.
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08:24.47Arrowmasterif that was buy the 360 version and get the steam version with it i would get it, otherwise i wont buy valve games on consoles
08:27.06Fiskermaybe you should ask Microsoft to not be the cancer that's killing gaming then Arrowmaster
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09:35.21Adyshttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568
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09:59.15ArrowmasterAdys: hilarious
10:03.52karl_w_whow about just asking Microsoft to not be.
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10:07.08karl_w_wairtonix
10:07.42Fiskerkarl_w_w
10:08.52ArrowmasterAdys: is dconf used by default on ubuntu or something?
10:08.59Adysapparently
10:09.02Adysits used by gconf i think
10:09.19Arrowmasterit has to be another ubuntu patch then
10:09.56Arrowmasterbecause literally NOTHING in debian uses it, the package exists but nothing depends, recommends, or even suggests it
10:10.07airtonixyou know what it's for ?
10:10.36AdysUm
10:10.39Adysit's used by Gnome
10:10.41Arrowmasteryeah i found a rant blog about it from 05 when it was still didnt exist
10:10.43Adysit's not ubuntu-specific
10:10.49Adyshttp://live.gnome.org/dconf
10:10.51airtonixbecause dconf is not installed on my lucid netbook
10:11.46ArrowmasterAdys: i ment a ubuntu patch to use it, not saying ubuntu created it, but it seems to still be a very immature system not commonly used
10:12.20airtonixyou have some ideas of other alternatives ?
10:12.22karl_w_wlooks like its just a fallback
10:12.44Arrowmasteroh wait lol, the dconf package in debian is for a completely different dconf
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10:12.56airtonixdon't you love that ?
10:13.05karl_w_wno.
10:13.20airtonixyour sarcasm detector needs replacing
10:13.22karl_w_whttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/features/genngreymane.html tl;dr
10:13.25Arrowmasterthe dconf-tools package which is the one for the dconf we are talking about only exists in experimental
10:14.36Arrowmasterand it depends on libglib, yeah i highly doubt they will ever get many kde apps to switch
10:16.13Fiskercoughs
10:16.23jnwhitehsneezes
10:17.20Fiskercoughs a bit more
10:19.52Fiskerwood.png has 4 times the pixels, your argument is invalid
10:21.15airtonixhow can you have wood if you're sick ?
10:21.25Fiskerhttp://fudzilla.com/games/item/21572-hackers-make-ps3-codmw2-a-mess <-this is awesome on two levels
10:38.48Fisker:O jnwhiteh
10:39.16Fiskerwasn't GT-i9023 the second nexus s?
10:42.19jnwhitehdunno
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10:51.18airtonixFisker, jnwhiteh just whispered me to say that he hasn't setup his phone shop yet
10:51.30jnwhitehcause I'm a bastrd
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10:51.40airtonixdon't tell fisker that
10:51.49airtonixkid gloves etc
10:58.13Fiskerit's like zomg jnwhiteh
10:58.25Fiskerthe GT-i9023 is showing up in dkdk shops
10:58.30Fiskernow someone just needs to hold me back
10:58.39Fiskerbecause i want a tegra :<
10:59.02Fiskeralso want fastboot oem unlock though :<
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11:04.15airtonixwant your boots to be fast, you should paint them red
11:04.33airtonixwith white strips
11:06.25Fiskerno!
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12:38.06Adysgiev gmail signin with ssh pubkey :(
12:39.29cbreak_workAdys: sounds like you want some kind of proxy
12:39.44cbreak_workAdys: in theory, they could do it with OpenSSL client certs, similar to ssh pubkey
12:40.05cbreak_workof course, OpenSSL is about 100 times more complicated and at least 10 times as vulnerable to weird crap...
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12:42.10airtonixjust like young love
12:42.26airtonixohhh those were the days
12:50.07Fiskerairtonix
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13:17.14mitch0no patch yet, right?
13:17.20Kalrothno patch
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13:19.10airtonixNoTick
13:19.25airtonixNoCry
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13:21.32Fiskerno patch yet, right?
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13:27.35Dartemiscan some one help me with CHAT_MSG_ADDON ? im kinda lost host to recive the info
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13:28.50jnwhitehDartemis: Did you post on wowprogramming.com?
13:28.59jnwhitehor was that someone else with the same question?
13:29.06Dartemisya that was me
13:29.11jnwhitehdo you have the book?
13:29.19Dartemisnope :/
13:29.21jnwhitehbecause chapter 13 goes into all of this in quite a bit of detail
13:29.22jnwhitehokay
13:29.32jnwhitehwell first thing, your frame should be named something better than 'Frame1' =)
13:29.43Dartemishehe ya know :p
13:29.47jnwhitehBut in the XML, if that's what you're using, you want to add some stuff to the scripts section
13:29.49jnwhitehlet me alter it.
13:30.03Dartemisthx
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13:30.41Dartemisdunno what i need to use, just trying to get the roll from the others out to the addon frame
13:31.31jnwhitehsee http://pastebin.com/v0cDS2ut
13:32.00Dartemisokay ill look :)
13:32.02jnwhitehthen add function RollinGame_OnEvent(self, event, ...) print(event, ...) end
13:32.06jnwhitehyou'll see the events come in
13:32.12jnwhitehyou just need to deal with them accordingly
13:33.04Fiskercoughs
13:33.10Dartemisokay..
13:33.13airtonixCoughs Louder
13:33.23Fiskercoughs louder
13:33.29Dartemisso the ... in the self, event ..., does they need to be changed or ?
13:33.29airtonixCoughs Even Louder
13:33.33Fiskercoughs louder
13:33.40jnwhitehno
13:33.42airtonixFarts
13:33.44jnwhitehthey're exactly as they should be
13:33.44JamashIN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY TACO BELL
13:33.47Fiskercoughs louder 
13:34.02Fiskeryou can't stop me airtonix
13:34.05airtonixGrumbles
13:34.06Dartemisokay,thanks.. ill try :) can i download the book on the site ?
13:34.13Fiskeri'm sick and i'm very good at it
13:35.09jnwhitehDartemis: no, it can be purchased from Amazon and a few other retailers
13:35.17airtonixhoho
13:35.18jnwhitehclick the 'store' link at the top of the page if you're interested
13:35.20jnwhitehDartemis: http://wowprogramming.com/forums/development/435#2
13:35.26jnwhitehDartemis: there's Lua code that should give you a good head-start
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13:36.34Dartemisjnwhiteh, thanks a lot :D ill look at it ^^
13:37.07airtonixFisker, i once lost my shadow
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13:37.15Jamashwhy is there no ebook version? huh? huh?
13:37.34airtonixJamash, what? Huh? EXPLAIN!
13:37.46jnwhitehJamash: there is
13:38.10airtonix<insert copious exclamation & question marks here/>
13:38.29jnwhitehYou can buy it from scribd: http://www.scribd.com/World-of-Warcraft%C2%AE-Programming-A-Guide-and-Reference-for-Creating-WoW-Addons/d/29530507
13:39.03Jamashjnwhiteh: oh, for twice the cost of a physical copy
13:39.16airtonixhoho
13:39.20jnwhitehhey, I don't set the prices, and neither does the publisher in that case
13:39.30jnwhitehI don't have a copy on my Kindle, and I'm the freaking author
13:39.31airtonixjnwhiteh, needs to feed his children somehow
13:39.33adimitit's scribd being greedy?
13:39.41JamashI think I'll buy a copy from bittorrent
13:39.47jnwhitehadimit: retailers set their own prices
13:39.48jnwhitehJamash: ...
13:39.54Jamashj/k
13:39.59adimitjnwhiteh: indeed they do.
13:40.01airtonixSends Jamash to Hell
13:42.39Jamashairtonix: feed them to what?
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13:50.27karl_w_wis it a good idea to microwave this?
13:51.41alestanetousles Cairenn's hair.
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13:52.01jnwhitehah back to work
13:52.13jnwhitehwhich means I still sit here, just try to be productive in my vim window :;
13:53.04Cairennhugs alestane
13:53.07Jamashkarl_w_w: this is deprecated, you should microwave self instead
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14:00.20zenziohttp://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/demotivational-posters-fear-not-citizens.jpg - this should be the default 50x-response for web servers
14:00.53karl_w_w(this)Microwave.GoodIdea;
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14:07.46Cairennzenzio: my brain did not need that image :p
14:08.20zenziothen ponder this; the central part of morale is oral
14:08.38Cairennheh
14:08.38zenziothat was too much knowledge for some people
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14:09.19alestaneSeriously. Get the hacksaws.
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14:12.13alestaneI don't entirely understand why some languages require a negative condition on post-test loops. I suppose it's to keep them accessible for more casual programmers, but being forced to do that inversion drives me a little nuts.
14:12.31Jamashwut
14:13.00alestaneIf there is ANYTHING I like about VB, it is the divorce of continuation/termination conditions from pretest/posttest loops.
14:13.27Jamashwhat languages are you referring to?
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14:13.50JamashI don't know of any language that has do until but not do while
14:13.55alestaneLua is the first one that comes to mind. Pascal does the same thing, but it's largely dead.
14:14.09foxlitfor (;;) or death? :))
14:14.23foxlitthough that lacks a pre-test :/
14:14.39alestaneOr Go, where you can just write for {}
14:15.20JamashI didn't even know about repeat until in lua before just now
14:15.42alestaneNot much call for post-test loops in a lot of cases any way, but it does exist.
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14:16.58Jamashany time I want that sort of logic I typically use something like flag = true; while flag do blah blah if yadda yadda flag = false end end derp derp
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14:17.26alestaneActually, I think that's the only way to do a posttest in Go.
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14:18.51airtonixFisker, i think you are lying
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14:19.01Fiskerabout what airtonix ?
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14:20.43JamashWhen Fisker is outlawed, only outlaws will Fisker
14:22.34Fiskeri once Jamashed a Fisker so i could Fisker Jamash
14:22.40Jamashgross
14:27.45FiskerD:
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14:29.04Fiskerairtonix
14:29.07Fiskeryou are a bad person
14:29.11airtonixindeed
14:29.21Fiskeryou called me a liar
14:29.29airtonixoh that
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14:40.35AckisFisker: why didn't I die in my sleep last night?
14:41.18Fiskerbecause you didn't sleep in my arms to the morning light
14:41.40Thunder_Childbecause it must have been somthing you said
14:41.56Ackiswait you want me to sleep in your arms? :(
14:46.39Thunder_ChildAckis: die in his arms http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/lyrics/i_just_died.html
14:47.05Ackisyeah... I don't like that song
14:47.12Ackistoo close to home for me
14:47.26Thunder_Childheh @ jilted lovers?
14:48.02adimitInteresting. On wowprogramming.com, the documentation for SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN seems to be wrong.
14:48.11Ackissomeone I grew up with had his brother die in his arms
14:48.13Jamashadimit: FIX IT
14:48.41adimitIt says "Fires when the cooldown on one of the player's spells begins or ends" BUT, it only fires when actually casting something. I.e. if the spell cd just finishes, the event *isn't* fired.
14:48.44airtonixHow stupid you gotta be to put sim cards in your traffic lights ?
14:48.45adimitJamash: I shall.
14:49.01adimitno need to caps attack me :-P
14:49.17jnwhitehadimit: the documentation can be updated, I suggest you do so if you have new information =)
14:49.21JamashCAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
14:49.31Thunder_Child~lart Jamash
14:49.31purlexecutes killall -HUP Jamash
14:49.44adimitjnwhiteh: I'm creating an account as we speak.
14:49.52jnwhiteh:P
14:49.56JamashODDLY ENOUGH I woops oddly enough I don't use caps lock to type in all caps
14:50.06airtonixok
14:50.12Jamashstrictly manual cool here
14:50.36adimitJamash: hehe, I replaced capslock with escape, for maximum VIM-Awesome-ity
14:50.41airtonixecho /dev/null | tee /usr/bin/jamashd
14:51.17Jamashairtonix: Permission denied.
14:51.34airtonixstrange, that's not the response i got
14:51.43adimitstupid thing is, I'll have to listen for SPELL_USABLE or whatever it's called, now too. Pretty derpy that UPDATE_CD doesn't fire when the cooldown actually does get update.
14:52.59airtonixJamash, did you install sim cards in the traffic lights ?
14:53.08Jamashno
14:53.21Jamashbut I do wear sunglasses at night
14:53.23airtonixoh, well anyway they're gone now
14:54.55mitch0adimit: you're doing it wrong. caps-lock should be remapped to ctrl
14:55.09adimitmitch0: Emacs sucks.
14:55.11adimit:-P
14:55.24airtonixso does vim
14:55.29adimitbut less.
14:55.32airtonixyou both suck equally
14:55.47mitch0adimit: I wasn't talking about emacs
14:55.55mitch0(also, esc is ctrl-])
14:55.56adimitin any case, caps lock shouldn't be capslock, because it's a useless key in a promiment positoin.
14:56.14Arrowmaster`mitch0: ctrl-[
14:56.27adimitI hit escape more than I hit the letter 'e'. for me it makes sense to bind it to a single key.
14:56.32mitch0arrow: that too
14:57.03airtonixobscure key combos make me rage
14:57.40Jamashctrl-right-triple-click-and-drag
14:58.00adimitReally?
14:58.10airtonixi hate you
14:58.12adimitobscure key combos are fun :-P
14:59.10Jamashbrb breafkast
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15:03.50Fiskerhey Ackis
15:03.54Fiskeryou insult my queen
15:05.03Ackisno u Fisker
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15:10.30karl_w_wtrain?
15:10.38airtonixconductor
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15:11.03Fiskerresistor
15:11.13alestaneRAWR
15:11.23Fiskerslaps alestane around a bit with a large trout
15:11.25Fiskerbad alestane
15:11.40airtonix-1
15:12.07alestaneknows where the trout has been and eats Fisker's arm instead.
15:14.11airtonixfisker works on a farm alestane
15:14.22airtonixi know where that arms been
15:14.57LunessaUsually holding smelly, dead trout.
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15:16.12Fiskerwho says i used my arms for holding the smelly dead trout?
15:17.00airtonixi didn't
15:17.37airtonixAre you an animal doctor Fisker ?
15:17.49Fiskeri killed you airtonix
15:17.51Fiskeri watched you die
15:17.57airtonixone of me
15:18.04Fiskerno
15:18.10airtonixoh yes
15:18.26airtonixi have many facilities across the globe
15:19.16Jamashfisker is a doctor of love
15:19.52airtonixThat explains the dirty arms
15:20.11airtonixand the farm
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15:23.09Fiskeri'm so sick airtonix
15:23.19airtonixI know why too
15:23.48Fiskeri'm coughing up my lungs
15:23.56airtonixI bet you are
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15:26.51alestanejoyfully snorgles Lopeppeppy.
15:27.13LopeppeppyI do have the creeping crud.  Mind your germs.
15:27.40adimitThe cd information i'm getting from GetSpellCooldown is a bit wonky. When I query it on SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED it seems to be the GCD, and when I do it later, it's the real cooldown…
15:27.58adimitare there any ways to get the *real* cooldown on SPELLCAST_SUCEEDED?
15:30.02mitch0no
15:30.21adimitmitch0: fair enough… kinda lame though.
15:31.27Fiskeri should get 10 hellscream commendations for doing a daily now that i'm exalted
15:33.19Lopeppeppyno commendations for joo.
15:37.09Fiskerit's logic Lopeppeppy
15:37.36Fiskerif they think they should take 10 commendations from me for giving me 250 rep, then i should have 10 commendations for every 250 rep i waste past exalted :<
15:37.59adimitdiminishing returns.
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15:38.08alestaneIf it were so, it might be, and if it was so, it would be, but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.
15:38.47airtonixFisker, Why should i reward you with 10 commendations?
15:38.54LopeppeppyContrariwise.
15:43.22Fiskerbecause airtonix
15:43.37karl_w_wrewards Fisker with 10 commendations.
15:44.45dardacksigh
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15:45.30Fiskerthen i shall have my mount in no time karl_w_w
15:45.44karl_w_wwhich one you going for?
15:46.07TC-Workyour mom
15:46.23TC-Worki mean this is Fisker after all
15:47.33Fiskeroh snap
15:47.39mikmafix it
15:48.04Fiskerdoes the human increase in rep give you extra weekly rep for your guild?
15:48.23karl_w_wive never ever seen a link that's so obvious that you shouldnt click on it than this: http://www.mothers35plus.co.uk/placenta-recipes.htm
15:48.29karl_w_wi havent even clicked on it
15:48.34karl_w_wsum1 experiment for me
15:49.07adimitstupid question: I wanna do ("string" .. x) where x is a boolean value. That's of course not possible. What do I do instead?
15:49.33Fiskersweet karl_w_w
15:49.36Fiskerplacenta lasagne
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15:49.51karl_w_wto answer Fisker's question: http://www.wowpedia.org/Guild_reputation
15:50.20Fisker1 fresh, ground, or minced placenta, prepared as above, 2 tblspns olive oil, 2 sliced cloves garlic, 1/2 tspn oregano, 1/2 diced onion, 2 tblspns tomato paste, or 1 whole tomato.
15:50.36Fiskeruse a recipe for lasagne and substitute this mixture for one layer of cheese. Quickly saut� all the ingredients in olive oil. Serve. Enjoy!
15:50.39Fiskeryes i will enjoy
15:50.40Fiskervery much
15:50.53FiskerInstead of cooking your placenta whole, you can dehydrate it and then add it to meals!
15:51.02Fiskerjerk placenta
15:51.11Fiskernom nom nom
15:51.21airtonixso this is what you get up to on the farm
15:51.32karl_w_wadimit: ("string" .. tostring(x))
15:51.48adimitkarl_w_w: thanks, found it :-) (pardon the stupidity, i'm a lua nub.)
15:55.57LopeppeppyI like a spicy cajun beef tongue jerky myself.
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15:56.36Fiskerew
15:56.58karl_w_whttp://foodporndaily.com/pictures/rich-chocolate-peppermint-cheesecake-bars/ best porn ever?
15:57.05Adys!api link
15:57.05lua_botFound 42 possible matches for 'link'.  Please be more specific
15:57.10Adys!api getiteminfo
15:57.10lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'getiteminfo': GetTradeTargetItemInfo, GetItemInfo
15:57.20Adys!api GetItemInfo
15:57.20lua_botGetItemInfo: Returns information about an item, by name, link or id (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo)
15:57.51LopeppeppyVery nice, karl_w_w.  But no porn is complete unless you can cook it yourself.  Gimme recipes!
15:58.17karl_w_wwww.google.com
15:58.19karl_w_w:P
15:58.30airtonixlol'd
15:58.40airtonixbtw
15:58.45airtonixstill loling
15:59.23karl_w_whttp://livlifetoo.blogspot.com/2010/12/chocolate-peppermint-cheesecake-bars.html as if by magic
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16:02.49LopeppeppyThis is awesome magic.  I approve!
16:02.54kd3|netbookyawn. at least my first class is at 11 am and not 9:30
16:03.27karl_w_wok im off to get 7 hours sleep. very decadent
16:06.28Slarenis the rank number returned by GetGuildInfo() related in any way to the rank numbers used by GuildControl* ?
16:06.53LopeppeppyOn a snowed-in day... I am watching The Shining.  I have a brain dysfunction.
16:08.10airtonixCookie Monster wasnt your cookies
16:08.17airtonixwants*
16:08.32LopeppeppyI cannot eat them, he can have them.
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16:11.07Fiskeraw bugger off you retards :<
16:11.09dardackis there a way to delete an addon from wowi?
16:11.26Fiskerso some alliance retard thinks he can just stroll in and take a quest item from me
16:11.32Fiskerso i stun him and take it for myself
16:11.43Fiskerthen he attacks me with less than half hp and dies in the flick of a switch
16:12.09Fiskerthen some other random alliance hero thinks "oh no i better help this person i have no connection to" and gets slaughtered in the process
16:12.21Fiskerthen of course 2 other mages and a paladins comes "Lol we r better than u"
16:12.34Fiskerrage
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16:14.52zenzelezzdardack: your own, or someone else's? :-p
16:14.58dardackmine
16:15.47dardacki have an old addon AutoHysteria, that when i was DK Blood tank in ICC25 if the person whispered me a Message box would pop up if CD was up and I could click on it or keybinding to autocast on the person I had set up to get it
16:15.56dardackanyways, as hysteria has changed
16:16.04dardackwanted to delete the addon
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16:28.41TC-Workanyone know if MSSql and MySql can run concurrently?
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16:29.08zenzelezz"can"? I see no reason why not, I don't think they use the same ports or stuff... but I don't know if it's a good situation
16:29.50TC-Worki meant more on the services side
16:29.51alestaneI foresee disk thrashing.
16:29.56solo|work^
16:30.01solo|workbut aside from that, no reason why they wont
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16:36.18airtonixi think that police department need to stop recruiting undercover detectives from people that spend 10years looking like policeman
16:36.35airtonixbut i hope they still keep doing it
16:38.17LopeppeppyThose are the ringers, so you don't suspect the young ones they really have doing the work.
16:38.50airtonixyou can spot them
16:39.18airtonixpeople trying to look "normal" by trying to use the latest idiotic dress fashions
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16:39.39airtonixand demonstrating a general lack of understanding of the latest slang and memes
16:40.43airtonixit's not that different from your parents trying to go undercover at your party
16:41.22Fiskermaybe you should stop doing illegal stuff and you wouldn't need to worry about it?
16:41.30airtonixno
16:41.45airtonixthe law is like the tide
16:42.06airtonixand the receding sand is our traditions
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16:43.02airtonixFisker, would you like a tinfoil hat ?
16:43.23Fiskerfor what purpose?
16:43.36airtonixto make you feel better
16:45.17Fiskerthat's paranoia not being sick
16:46.40airtonixjust because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you
16:47.33LopeppeppyNom nom nom?
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16:50.42airtonixok so in summary
16:50.48airtonixFisker owns a farm,
16:51.00airtonixhas been sticking his arms where its not sanitry
16:51.10airtonixthus contracted a brain eating virus
16:51.24mikmafart
16:51.24airtonixand is currently locked himself in his parents basement
16:52.16Jamashactually he locked his parents in his basement
16:52.36airtonixyesyes, the object of his paranoid delusions
16:52.47airtonixfisker is sick
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16:54.17LopeppeppyPut on some socks, Fisker.
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16:59.07TC-Workhas anyone tried http://streammygame.com/smg/index.php ?
16:59.33amroare you thinking what I'm thinking?\
16:59.33krkaI think so, amro, but can the Gummi Worms really live in peace with the Marshmallow Chicks?
17:00.03LopeppeppyWhere do we get a set of rubber knickers at a time like this?
17:00.57airtonixFisker can supply you with some
17:01.03airtonix(part of being a geriatric)
17:01.14LopeppeppyOnly after he puts his socks on.
17:01.42airtonixthat's sound advice from someone who bakes cookies
17:02.22LopeppeppyOnly the bestest advice!  *innocent*
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17:12.34Lopeppeppy~staple Cairenn
17:12.34purlACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Cairenn quite well, and hands Cairenn to lopeppeppy
17:12.42Cairennthanks Lopeppeppy
17:12.51LopeppeppyWeather messing with your connection?
17:13.00Cairennnot sure what the problem is
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17:14.14LopeppeppyMy internet is creepy-crawly slow, I'm betting there are downed lines somewhere, or a station out that I'm routing around.
17:15.50Cairennnod
17:16.02LopeppeppyIce is not my friend.
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17:24.56Fiskerslaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout
17:26.13LopeppeppyOooh, baby
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17:29.18airtonixhttp://vimeo.com/9739256
17:29.29airtonixdo want this movie!
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17:40.10airtonixFisker, science : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef17zOCDb8
17:40.13airtonixi lol'd
17:44.35solo|workaugh
17:44.42alestanefeed you to the crocs.
17:45.31cog|workhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EP1ZrAv8A4
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18:09.56Fiskercog|work is a jeeeeeerk|work
18:10.41amroFisker is a Fisker
18:11.30Ackishttp://www.techarena.in/news/10962-world-warcraft-requires-75000-cpu-cores-13-petabytes-storage.htm
18:13.56Fiskerold Ackis
18:17.32amrobad Fisker
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18:22.33jnwhitehlots of Go code today, not so much with the whole writing about my library =(
18:27.26TC-Workhttp://www.martinjetpack.com/ i want one
18:27.51sylvanaar_workgo is very trendy
18:27.57Fiskeraddons can no longer get names from real id right?
18:28.07Fiskeroh why amro ?
18:28.13sylvanaar_workthey can Fisker
18:28.26sylvanaar_workif they are your friend
18:28.30amrobecause you said jerk|work instead of the much better cog|jerk
18:29.01amrojnwhiteh: what library?
18:29.17jnwhitehone for my research, its a web server package/toolkit
18:29.27Fiskeri thought they did a lot of stuff to prevent it sylvanaar_work
18:29.31jnwhitehlets you put together web servers as process networks with clearly defined behaviour
18:29.34jnwhitehand a few other things
18:29.46Fiskeror wait
18:29.50Fiskerwas that your own name?
18:30.01Fiskeryeah that might be it :o
18:30.13sylvanaar_workFisker: i dont know, but i mean if you can see a name in your chat, the api can access it
18:32.15sylvanaar_worki have worked with it only a little bit, but from what i have seen i can view the first and last name of anyone on my friends list
18:32.49Fiskerpretty sure there  was some "omg blizzard is leaking my account information to gearscore" hysteria because you could get ones own name from real id
18:33.07Fiskerand i remember blizzard doing some changes about it :o
18:33.20sylvanaar_workthey did some wierd encoding using |K links
18:33.58sylvanaar_workthats probably what you are refering to
18:35.26Dagmar<PROTECTED>
18:35.31sylvanaar_workit could be that when i viewed the output of the api call the game client was translating the |K links into names
18:35.35Dagmar@#$%!
18:35.40sylvanaar_worki'd have to double check
18:37.10jnwhitehthe API returns freaking |K
18:37.16jnwhitehI can't seem to get a name from a |K
18:37.20jnwhitehand it makes me cry, or I'm stupid
18:37.35batricki blame shirik
18:37.39jnwhitehtooltips and chat frames both are able to expand them.. but the events only give you the |Ks
18:37.42jnwhitehbatrick: indede.
18:37.57jnwhitehokay, time to go home
18:37.58jnwhitehbrb
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18:42.46sylvanaar_workjnwhiteh: i thought you could get a presence id from them
18:42.58sylvanaar_workwith a presence id you can get first and last
18:44.09sylvanaar_workagain, could be that i was getting K links and didnt know it
18:45.49Fiskerbtw
18:45.53Fiskersomeone needs to stop me
18:46.01Fiskerbefore i accidentally get a nexus s :(
18:46.20LopeppeppyYou don't accidentally get one of those.  Duh.
18:46.28LopeppeppyYou accidentally get an old Blackberry Pearl.
18:46.45sylvanaar_works/get/run over/
18:46.50sylvanaar_worklol
18:47.03sylvanaar_workoops
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18:48.46mitchnullthat thing should be turned off in purl. it fails most of the time anyway
18:49.15sylvanaar_worknah, we use it all the time
18:49.34mitchnulleveryone understands s/this/that/ without purl anyway
18:49.42LopeppeppyYou just have to be precise, she's fussy
18:49.50mitchnullno. it's dumb
18:50.02sylvanaar_workpurl keeps us company
18:50.02Lopeppeppyso put her on ignore if you don't like her.
18:50.05mitchnulls/dumb/& as a box of potatoes/
18:50.08mitchnullsee?
18:50.55sylvanaar_worksee what
18:51.23mitchnullit should be "no. it's dumb as a box of potatoes"
18:51.56jnwhitehsylvanaar_work: you might be able to, but I do't know how
18:54.35sylvanaar_workim going to have to retest calling the bnet apis i guess, i wasnt paying that close attention to know if the client was translating the results in the print statement
18:55.15sylvanaar_worki mean, it would if i had used print, and would not if i had used dump
18:55.24sylvanaar_workso, i guess ill have to do it again
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18:57.18kd3|netbookwhee; music appreciation. hopefully my years as a classical violinist will help me to sleep through this class
19:02.18Fiskerslaps kd3|netbook around a bit with a large trout
19:02.53Lopeppeppy"I appreciate when the music ends, how about that?"
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19:27.13syraetekkub: you do not have too many stuffed animals.  You have too small of a TV.
19:27.14Atriaceis there a shortcut to running slash commands from a /script?
19:28.18alestaneIt's doable, and there are probably libraries that include it. But I don't think there's a built-in shorthand for it.
19:28.53AtriaceSo, I'd have to write a custom function to parse the query and search for matches, I'm guessing.
19:28.59TarovenCould always try running directly from SLASHCMDLIST or something.
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19:30.34alestaneIf you know what the internal ID for the slash command in question is, it's easy.
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19:31.00alestaneLooking it up from the actual /command string is more tedious.
19:32.24AtriaceHmm, can't find the SLASHCMDLIST in the global table.
19:32.45AtriaceForgive my ignorance, but I just got back to coding.
19:33.04AtriaceWhere should I start looking?
19:33.41Cideit's SlashCmdList
19:33.58TarovenMy bad, been a while
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19:34.12Maldivia~framexml
19:34.13purlDownload FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml
19:34.21AtriaceDanka
19:35.12AtriaceWoot, that was easy
19:35.36AtriaceHmm, must implement case-insensitive searches...
19:35.49Maldiviaconsidered just calling ChatEdit_ParseText(...) ?
19:36.04AtriaceNope.  But I'll look it up.  :)
19:36.23Maldiviaor actually, ChatEdit_HandleChatType
19:36.46Maldiviaor well, it's been a while since I've looked at the code
19:37.10m^rkwhat is this so called direct line of communication referred to in this blue post? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869561205?page=2#27
19:37.14Tarovenlua> case = "Foo!"; insensitive = "foo!"; if case:lower()==insensitive:lower() do print("haylookitwerks") end
19:37.14lua_botTaroven: luabot:1: 'then' expected near 'do'
19:37.19Taroven>.>
19:37.25Tarovenlua> case = "Foo!"; insensitive = "foo!"; if case:lower()==insensitive:lower() then print("haylookitwerks") end
19:37.26lua_botTaroven: haylookitwerks
19:38.04Fiskerjnwhiteh
19:38.12Fiskerforget setting up your own phonestore
19:38.19jnwhitehk why
19:38.21Fiskerset up your own division of google and make me one
19:38.53TarovenAtriace: There's ways and ways for case insensitivity, that one works pretty well.
19:38.56FiskerAstrix 4g but with the same'ish Nexus One design, NFC, and then unlockable of course
19:40.08Fiskerthough i wonder what they can do with the new ohsnapdwagons
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19:42.14Shirikseems impractical, TC-Away
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19:44.33Dreagmornin peoples. :)
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19:48.50FiskerShirik
19:48.51Fiskerme
19:48.56Shirikno, me
19:49.09Fiskerno u
19:51.10Ackishey Shirik
19:51.22Shirikhey Ackis
19:51.24AckisI broke 20k dps yesterday doing hodir 25-man as shadow... how pro am I?
19:51.29Shiriknice
19:51.36ShirikI don't really play shadow but I only do about 10k
19:51.43Ackiswe were wiping with me as holy because we didn't have enough dps
19:51.43Shirikalso
19:51.46ShirikHalp
19:51.51ShirikCZE is trying to send me an ID card
19:51.54Ackishodir is old content and gives you a lot of dps buffs
19:51.56Shirikand they asked me to confirm my address
19:51.57Ackislol
19:51.59Shirikbut I don't have an address!
19:52.05Ackisuh oh
19:52.08ShirikI'm literally in the process of moving
19:52.10Ackishave it sent to your parents?
19:52.11Shirikmy address is currently a hotel
19:52.13Shirikmaybe
19:52.49AckisI was looking at gems that I have in my JP chest... I have a 16 int/stam and 30 haste gem in it lol
19:53.50durcynthat's so funny, you should type 'lol' at the end of it
19:53.54durcynthen immediately stab yourself in the eye
19:54.35ShirikI have to agree
19:54.36AckisI hadn't looked at my gem choices on that robe for a while, it was bought before a lot of people leveled up JCing
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19:55.45Fiskerwhy so low dps Ackis ?
19:55.48AckisI picked up pawn and used custom weightings based on EJ after I got a mastery chest... still saying the haste chest is better
19:56.00Fiskeri hope you're still level 80, then atleast it's kind of understandable
19:56.14Ackisso I spent a few hours trying to configure pawn to do my thinking for me
19:56.17Ackis~lart Fisker
19:56.17purlwhips out a sword and chops Fisker in half
19:57.05Fiskerthese guys should probably hire a new guy to do their voicework
19:57.18Fiskerinstead of calling it "comefly" as it's called they call it "cumfly" :/
19:57.34AckisShirik: http://www.wowhead.com/item=58159 with 40 spirit enchant, 18 int/26 stam gem and a 30 haste gem :(
19:58.05Cideew
19:58.10Cideget anraphet's regalia
19:58.25Fiskeri got a huge mining pick
19:58.29Fiskerbut i can't use it for mining :(
19:58.31Cideor the tier chest which I may be getting today
19:58.48Ackisvs http://www.wowhead.com/item=57868 with 15 stat enchant, 20 int/20 mastery gem and 20int/20 spirit gem
19:58.51DreagOK, so i have a question for you guys. :) I'm lookin for a developer to help me out.. and since you guys in ehre are pretty much the best i thought i'd ask if anyone was interested in a job.. :)
19:58.57Ackisbah Cide :P was typing it out :P
19:59.21Cideyou need to give more info than that Dreag
19:59.28Cidehow much work it is, what it's about, compensation
19:59.47DreagI can do that for sure. Just didn't want to bother everyone with it in chat, wasn't sure the rules on that in here. ;)
20:00.05Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/fiskerdin/simple <-if only you could see it from there :<
20:00.12TarovenWe have rules? o.0
20:00.34Cideonly one
20:00.37Cidedon't post pics of Cairenn
20:00.47FiskerOH
20:00.47FiskerMY
20:00.49FiskerGOD
20:00.51Fiskerthis guy is HILARIOUS
20:00.56FiskerGot reported for Uterus
20:00.59Fiskerchanged to Ovary
20:01.01Fiskergot reported for tha
20:01.03Fiskerthat
20:01.07Fisker(told them to force rename it)
20:01.11Fiskerhe changed back to Uterus
20:01.16Fiskerhe ban'd
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20:01.19TarovenXD
20:01.25DJ_SwitiHello people
20:01.28Ackislol he did?
20:01.29Cidehi
20:01.32Cideare you a DJ?
20:01.32DreagI work for Booster, it's a leveling guide. The addon needs to be fixed back to working order, and that's task 1. Compensation is definitely there, we'd likely want to keep on a good programmer with a monthly salary to work on new upcoming guides we'll be working on
20:01.35Tarovenohaithar
20:01.36DJ_SwitiI need some help ^.^ (Yes i'm a DJ)
20:01.48CideI thought DJ's were mainly about playing music
20:02.00DJ_SwitiNope I'm playing wow but producing music too
20:02.27DJ_SwitiSo, can I ask my question ?
20:02.34Cidewho is stopping you?
20:02.45Fiskeryeah Ackis
20:02.57DJ_SwitiFor my addon, I need an API function to send an error message in the Chat Window
20:03.06Tarovenprint()
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20:03.37DJ_SwitiMake and example ? I want it red an the message is : "The value must be between 1 and 10 !"
20:03.40DJ_Switian*
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20:04.13DreagI like the default chat frame one. :)
20:04.34sylvanaar_workChatFrame1:AddMessage("mesage", 1, 0, 0)
20:04.46DJ_SwitiThanks much ! I'll test it now
20:05.02Tarovenprint("|cffff0000The value must be between 1 and 10|c") -- Not sure on the exact color escape there, been quite a while since I worked with colors in chat, but the format is |cAARRGGBB
20:05.28TarovenOr use sylvanaar's way, it's easier. =P
20:05.30DreagBiggest thing Cide is we need someone who's fast and good. The guide's pretty simple, for someone talented it all should amount to a pretty quick easy job to start with. :)
20:05.37FiskerAckis
20:05.40Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1549435674
20:05.43DJ_SwitiI am testing the sylvanaar's one ;p
20:05.45Cideyeah I'm not interested
20:06.25DreagGotta say honestly was suprised you asked, didn't think you'd want to. but thanks for considering..
20:06.31TarovenDreag: I might be interested depending on the existing code base... and if I had an account + cata.
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20:07.03TarovenHacking an addon into working condition is one thing, but making sure it stays that was is another.
20:07.15Tarovens/was/is/
20:07.29Taroven...too tired for regex.
20:08.07Cideit's just a text substitution
20:08.12Cideyou just fail at reading
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20:10.11AtriaceWow... that was scary.
20:10.28AtriaceSystem crashed after typing "/script pcall"
20:10.50Atriacemalformed, I know, but I wasn't done typing when I hit enter.
20:11.21Fiskeryou know what Ackis ?
20:11.26AckisFisker: how do you know he was banned?
20:11.35Fiskerpolicy volcano
20:12.01Fiskeri guess that after his third policy violation he'll get atleast a 3 hour suspension :P
20:12.01Fiskerbut they should just do this:
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20:12.06FiskerLock the name, let him pay for a namechange
20:12.26AckisIMO once a name is reported it should be locked so no one can select it ever again
20:12.57Fiskerthat would probably be overboard
20:13.10Fiskerunless for the obvious ones
20:13.13Fiskerlike hitler, boobs, etc.
20:13.29Fiskerbut i think they'd atleast think of their next choice each time it costs them 15€ :P
20:13.51Ackisafk meeting :(
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20:27.22Shirikloooool
20:27.39ShirikServer outage message:
20:27.41ShirikUnfortunately, over the last couple of days Wikimedia executed several DROP DATABASE statements on their s7 server, for the old s3 databases. These statements were replicated to our s3/s7 server and dropped the live databases on our server.
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20:28.19alestaneUm , oops?
20:28.30ShirikWikimedia was moving databases around, but they wanted backwards compatibility on the replication servers, so they kept the old databases hooked up to the new one
20:28.57Shirikso when they dropped the database on the live server (because it moved), it replicated that into the replication servers... killing all replicated data
20:29.08alestaneNot so good.
20:29.30Gnarfozmorans :D
20:29.32Shiriklol
20:29.34Shirik* Several s3 databases (all of which start with 'a') are no longer
20:29.34Shirikavailable
20:29.57ShirikThey're rebuilding it, but replicating a database the size of Wikimedia's database will take days at least
20:30.06Gnarfozprobably because it didn't get to B before they noticed their mistake? :D
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20:30.25Fiskerisn't it only a couple of terabytes Shirik ?
20:30.34Shirik"only"
20:31.36Gnarfozdepends on your restore strategy :>
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20:33.28Shirik~wiki Pics_or_it_didn't_happen
20:33.41Shirik~wiki Pics_or_it_didn't_happen
20:33.53Shirikok well you fail
20:33.58Shirikit redirects to [[Bible]]
20:34.13kd3|netbooklol
20:34.36kd3|netbookalso, has the tech blog been  updated with the dba fail yet?
20:34.38syraewow
20:34.42kd3|netbookhasn't been able to check
20:34.55Gnarfozwhere's the tech blog at
20:35.37kd3|netbookhttp://techblog.wikimedia.org/
20:35.40kd3|netbook(no, it hasn't been)
20:36.57ShirikIt would probably be more relevant at http://journal.toolserver.org/
20:37.02Shirikbut it might be on either
20:37.15Shirikbut I literally just got the email from the sysadmin
20:37.19Shirikso they probably just found out
20:37.53kd3|netbookwha, the sysop ping everyone with a toolserver account?
20:38.25Shirikyes
20:38.38kd3|netbookah
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20:38.43Shirikalso
20:38.54Shirikhttp://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Two-Bodies-Found-In-Bradford-House-Deaths-Being-Treated-As-Suspicious/Article/201101315898148?lpos=UK_News_First_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15898148_Two_Bodies_Found_In_Bradford_House,_Deaths_Being_Treated_As_Suspicious
20:38.56Shirik"on a further search of the property discovered a second body, of which the sex has not yet been established."
20:48.50Shirikhahaha
20:49.07ShirikI find it ironic that the replication tool Wikimedia uses is called "trainwreck"
20:49.28Shirik"Yes. I also considered modifying trainwreck (our replication tool) to ignore DROP DATABASE commands; perhaps we could do both."
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20:54.09Fiskerbtw house is a jerk
20:54.13Fiskerwhy didn't you guys tell me?
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20:56.50Fiskerslaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout
20:57.06Shirikhouse is awesome
20:57.19Fiskerthat's what i thought
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21:00.35PrimerAnyone know auctioneer well? How do I buy in bulk? I wish I could just shift click a range and go "buy", but that doesn't seem to work
21:01.24Cideall auc questions be directed to shirik
21:01.52ShirikThere are two ways, your best way is probably to set up easy buyout
21:02.06Shirikwhich will let you right click on something (optionally with a modifier like shift) to buy it
21:02.20ShirikWoW requires a hardware event for every purchase, so we can't let you select a range of things and buy it
21:03.27Primerwell, in that time, what I wanted is now gone...
21:03.27MihauI made PHP segfault.  I WIN!
21:03.48ShirikMihau: Did you type <?php ?
21:03.48CideI thought that was normal operating procedure
21:03.51ShirikThat's usually about enough to make it segfault
21:04.03Cidehigh-fives Shirik
21:04.16MihauShirik: I ran a script that makes a DOM out of HTML for PHP.
21:04.30Cidewhy would you do that
21:04.32foxlitShirik: select a range and spam-bindings!
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21:31.15NecrowinsGreetings, anyone know norganna.org's irc channel
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21:33.32kd3|netbook#norganna
21:33.36Necrowinsclever!
21:33.38Necrowinsthanks
21:33.46kd3|netbooknp
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21:36.17Fiskeroh kd3
21:36.31Fiskeri thought it was #bustymomsdoinit
21:36.41Fiskerthe more you know
21:36.45Fisker*rainbow*
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21:41.12Kraps"I would talk in iambic pentameter if it were easier." - Howard Nemerov
21:43.29Kraps"That was a joke" - EDI
21:44.27DreagSo i got a design question.. well more lookin for a consensus.. see i suck with the pretty making part... I do TextUnitFrames... updating it for cata.. well re-writing to try to lower resources, but regardless.. it's all the unit frames with just text. What would look and feel better,  having the frames attatched to one another, or keep them all seperate, or an option to just line em all up.
21:44.27DreagThinkin a'la healbot
21:45.55Dreagthoughts?
21:45.55KarlKFI|workattached with some space is usually prefered
21:47.54Dreagthat's what i thought, then i started thinkin about like minimal UI's that may want to use it. or do i just let them edit the code to stick em how they want? They'll be movable for sure, figured also it'd be less intensive and simpler than puttin them all in their own frames etc. keepin it all as text as possible
21:54.48Krapshttp://kotaku.com/5736467/world-of-starcraft-isnt-quite-what-you-thought-it-would-be
21:57.48DagmarFuckin' crazy
21:58.40batbotShirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward.
21:59.03batrickyou tell him batbot
21:59.26KarlKFI|workhow would they make it an MMO... isn't there a cap of number of players per map?
21:59.49DagmarThe same way Sony does with EverQuest II
22:00.05DagmarTHey just pretend there's more than four people playing it at once.
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22:04.22jnwhitehso my amex card that i've only ever used twice has been comprimised
22:04.25jnwhitehvery confusing
22:04.35DagmarWhere'd you use it?
22:04.47jnwhitehapple.com for my laptop, and target.com
22:05.01Fiskerapple's fault
22:05.02Fiskersue sue sue
22:05.04jnwhitehclearly
22:05.48Fiskerso bank said their systems are flawless yet?
22:05.52Nechckndo you cross-shred any receipts and statememts before trashing them?
22:05.55DagmarTarget probably fucked up, but just the same unless you used it only with a Mac I'd check the machine for signs it cached your credit card number.
22:06.20NechcknCould be lots of things, unfortunately.
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22:06.46DagmarIf he only used the card twice, then it's sort of unlikely that there would be a lot of reciepts left to snatch
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22:07.05Fiskerespecially when he mentions websites
22:07.10Fiskercould be that his mac was keylogged though
22:07.14NechcknUnless you disable them, then you get statements each month.
22:07.22Fisker(you know, because of the poor security, oooooooooooooh)
22:07.37NechcknBut... yeah... at least there are only a few possibilities.
22:07.56NechcknBe sure to at least file a report with whatever Brit place tracks such things.
22:08.23Fiskerreading about that exploit a week ago or so was pretty horrible
22:09.13Fiskeror 2 or 3 idk :P
22:13.05DagmarWait...
22:13.07DagmarPfft.
22:13.40Fiskersup Dagmar ?
22:13.40DagmarI *know* neither Apple nor Target forgot to disable autocomplete on the requisite fields.  No way should a browser have cached that by accident so it rules that possibility out.
22:13.54DagmarI've looked at both their sites for that in the past month actually
22:14.00DagmarTarget was just a few days ago
22:14.14DagmarProbably Target got hacked and hasn't figured it out yet
22:15.44FiskerI thought they weren't allowed to store credit card information like that
22:15.58Jamashhehehehe
22:16.00Jamashallowed
22:16.02Jamashthat's a good one
22:16.12Fiskeryeah Jamash
22:17.03Fiskerbut i would atleast expect someone like target or apple(troll says, nevermind) to actually either be caught already or have enough resources to actually be able to make a secure database for shit like that
22:18.05Jamashhttp://www.techwatch.co.uk/2010/12/23/pci-dss-2-0-security-standards-concerns-raised/ for example
22:18.22NobgulIn the long run it's always better for the end consumer to protect themselvs. Relying on the site to secure it's self is bad bad JUJU.
22:19.00Jamashthat's the one thing I liked about paypal before I canceled my account because paypal are a bunch of insane douchebags
22:19.30Fiskernot a lot of places here support paypal (or google checkout for that matter)
22:19.37NobgulThat they are. I just use the create one time use card feature on my credit card now.
22:19.46Jamashthat's a good idea
22:19.48Fiskerso not a lot you can do other than stay vigilant (which your bank usually do for you anyway :P)
22:20.34NobgulMost of the US card issuer's are now providing the service for free. Hell mine even allows me to create a card with a preset ammount and send it as a gift, up to 5 per year with no charge.
22:21.38Fiskeri foresee a lot of it systems engineers posting on the US forums when their "fake"/"gift" visas are compromised
22:22.28Fisker"zomg i only used this card for wow, that means it's your fault, and i know because i know computer science 3"
22:23.54NobgulAt my job here, we do not accept gift card and or cards without the persons name on it. As well as traveler checks.
22:24.00PrimerAnyone know if any of the 515+ vendor BS patterns provide +5 skills? I've been searching wowhead and the likes, but there's nothing concrete about this. Thing is, I'm at 510 and have like 10 orbs
22:24.17NobgulI think
22:24.18Primerand was hoping to just make high level items to max out BS
22:28.37JamashIDK about BS, but LW vendor patterns give 2 skillups
22:28.51Primerwoot, it's 5
22:28.56PrimerI just ended up buying it
22:30.11Primernow to find 2 holy paladins
22:30.14Primerheh
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22:41.10Atriace~lua
22:41.11purlLua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon".
22:41.24AtriaceWhat's the prefix for running a script in chat?
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22:41.46kd3|netbook>> 3+4
22:41.51kd3|netbooker, wait
22:41.55kd3|netbooklua> 3+4
22:41.56lua_botkd3|netbook: 7
22:41.57Fiskerslaps kd3|netbook around a bit with a large trout
22:42.02Atriacelua> string.find("4", "%1$s %3$s %2$s %4$s %5$s. %6$s")
22:42.03lua_botAtriace: luabot:1: invalid capture index
22:42.08Fiskerkd3|netbook can't math
22:42.22AtriaceOkay, this is my issue (as demonstrated by lua_bot)
22:43.07AtriaceFrom what I've read (on a mailing list), "Lua does not support POSIX format specifier position indicators.  If you have a format string which originally meant for C's printf() function, it is in general a bad idea to pass it straight into Lua's
22:43.07Atriacestring.format() function."
22:43.14krkalua> string.find("%1$s %3$s %2$s %4$s %5$s. %6$s", "4", 1, 1)
22:43.15lua_botkrka: 17, 17
22:44.20Atriacelua> string.find("4", "%1$s %3$s %2$s %4$s %5$s. %6$s", 1, 1)
22:44.21lua_botAtriace: nil
22:44.37ArrowmasterAtriace: those are one of the things that lua actually does support but are disabled by default when you compile lua, blizzard has enabled them though yet i dont know about lua_bot
22:44.38AtriaceAnyway, I'm not sure how to circumvent this issue.
22:44.50krkai think you can use a deformat lib
22:44.58krkano wait, that's not it
22:44.59krkahm
22:45.26kd3|netbookafaik you're just going to have to not use positional args
22:45.29Arrowmasteryeah you cant
22:45.38krkaunless you write your own format
22:45.38Arrowmasterer can, can use a deformat lib
22:45.46AtriaceArrowmaster: I'm getting the same error in wow.   Regardless, I actually have no intent to use the POSIX string, it just happens to be a result from WoW's global table I need to parse.
22:45.58krkawow supports positional though, i think
22:46.10Arrowmasterwhat exactly is the code you are running in wow?
22:46.18krkanot sure why you use find there though
22:46.22Atriacehttp://massive.atriace.com
22:46.29Arrowmasteryeah im questioning the usage of find too
22:47.27AtriaceI'm searching for a string match of a query in the global table with any result, be it table name, key, or value.
22:48.08Ackiswas there an addon called call to arms?
22:48.17Arrowmasteryes
22:48.22Arrowmastervery very long time ago
22:48.30Arrowmasterthen sylvanaar tried to revive it and failed i think
22:48.45Ackishttp://www.wowace.com/addons/call-to-arms/
22:49.00Atriacelua> string.find("4", "%1$s %3$s %2$s %4$s %5$s. %6$s", 1)
22:49.00lua_botAtriace: luabot:1: invalid capture index
22:49.21AtriaceWell, I can't use the 4th argument, as it needs to be a wildcard search.  :/
22:49.34krkai dont even know what that's supposed to do
22:49.38Arrowmastersame
22:49.46kd3|netbookare you trying to find a "4" in that string?
22:49.49AtriaceAye
22:50.27kd3|netbookyou've got your needles and haystacks backward
22:50.48Jamashstring.find (s, pattern [, init [, plain]])
22:50.53Atriacehttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.find
22:51.02AtriaceAye, there you go.
22:51.09AtriaceNot sure how that's backward.
22:51.18Atriaceoh wait.
22:51.26Jamashs is the string to look in, pattern is what to look for
22:51.28Atriace<PROTECTED>
22:51.29kd3|netbookhttp://www.wowpedia.org/API_strfind
22:51.57AtriaceOkay, the issue is still the same.  Let's revise....
22:52.15Atriacelua> string.find("%1$s %3$s %2$s %4$s %5$s. %6$s", "4", 1)
22:52.16lua_botAtriace: 17, 17
22:52.18Jamashwhat is your overall goal with this string munging?
22:52.46Jamashis it some sort of localization type thing?
22:52.47AtriaceTo find pattern in string when presented with a POSIX string
22:53.03AtriaceWoW just happens to have this type of weird string in its global table.
22:53.09Jamashso you want to convert a posix match string into a lua match string?
22:53.16AtriaceAnd unless corrected, my app will error out of the search.
22:53.39AtriaceNo, not really convert, just transliterate.
22:53.46Jamashthat sounds the same to me
22:53.58AtriaceThat is to say (one sec while pulling ref)
22:54.12Atriaceprintf("%2$s %1$s\n", "world!", "Hello");  /* prints "Hello world!\n" */
22:54.22AtriaceI'm not concerned with that functionality
22:54.41AtriaceFinding "2" in "%2$s %1$s\n", is my concern.
22:55.10Atriaceor, precisely string.find("%2$s %1$s\n", "2") == true
22:55.28Atriacelua> string.find("%2$s %1$s\n", "2")
22:55.28Jamashso you want a lua format that will match a posix format?
22:55.29lua_botAtriace: 2, 2
22:56.11Arrowmaster@project libdeformat-3-0
22:56.12AtriaceNope.  Just the lua find the string match.
22:56.17RepoArrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 379 days ago
22:56.29Arrowmasterthat library can handle those types of patterns
22:56.41AtriaceOh nice.  :)
22:56.42ckknightwaves
22:56.51AtriaceThanks ckknight.  ^_^
22:57.05Arrowmasterdont thank him, he never does anything useful anymore
22:57.21kd3|netbookhar
22:58.23AtriaceCode looks concise.
22:58.41AtriaceMind if I redistribute it with Massive, ckknight?
22:58.55Atriaceer, embed.
22:59.31JamashLicense: MIT license
23:00.25sylvanaarArrowmaster: i did not fail! it just became completely obsolete
23:01.11sylvanaarlol imho
23:01.44Fiskerhaha wat Ackis
23:01.54Fiskerthe guy didn't get banned or anything :D
23:01.59Fiskerthat's pretty fucking awesome
23:02.38sylvanaarAckis: why were you asking bout call to arms? new adddon?
23:04.16Ackissylvanaar: yeah someone used the same name but for guild specific purposes, there were a few reasons to request changes/clarifications, hte name was just one of them
23:11.00FiskerAckis
23:11.04Fiskerlol with me
23:11.39FiskerSo you have 3 highly inappropiate name violations within a period of 3 days
23:11.51Fiskerwhere one of them are obviously done just to get back the name on your original violation
23:11.57Fiskerand you still don't get banned D:
23:12.27FiskerThat's just silly
23:17.23JamashFisker, there is a cure for what ails you: "Semen allergy suspected in rare post-orgasm illness" http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE70G00D20110117
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23:25.59Fiskerthat's not what ails me Jamash
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23:27.16Fiskerwhat ails me is that someone got away with 3 highly inappropiate names, with one of them basically being "Hey i'm obviously abusing your goodwill, by renaming my character back to it's original violating name"
23:27.26Fiskerit's like zomg kd3|netbook
23:27.44kd3|netbookhar
23:29.40Fiskerit enrages me kd3|netbook
23:31.23Fiskerbut you know what you could do kd3|netbook ?
23:31.31kd3|netbooklaugh?
23:31.33FiskerInstead of letting people have a namechange
23:31.59FiskerJust lock the character with some invalid name
23:32.12Fiskerand he can only unlock the character by paying a paid name change
23:32.37Fiskerpunishment and cash cow in one kd3|netbook
23:32.49kd3|netbookhar
23:33.26Fiskerand then who is going to try and get past their offense by just renaming it into something offensive again?
23:33.31FiskerWell either you're rich or stupid
23:33.34Fiskereither way, we all win
23:38.12foxlitHvis der stadig er håb, Fisker.
23:39.19NobgulIkke for ham
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23:52.46ShirikI have to take a driver's knowledge test :<
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23:57.12Nobgullol why
23:57.13ArrowmasterShirik: why?

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