| 00:01.12 | cbreak | looks old |
| 00:02.02 | Corrodias2 | well, looks simply animated. |
| 00:02.15 | Kraps | its kind of like GoG, but wtf is up with the english? http://www.dotemu.com/en/pc-games |
| 00:02.52 | Kraps | "Titre"? are they unfunny racists or something? 9_9 |
| 00:03.09 | cbreak | titre is french |
| 00:03.30 | Corrodias2 | i've never heard of the site or the games on it before. i guess there has to be a first time for everything, but they've been up for 4 years, it says. |
| 00:04.33 | Kraps | the game link is from RPS, they're apparently excited about the game |
| 00:04.49 | Corrodias2 | what's RPS? |
| 00:05.06 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/14/chuffed-the-last-express-available-to-buy/ |
| 00:07.35 | Corrodias2 | huh. it sounds interesting. i know that a "miss stuff if you aren't there" game would just drive me to drink, though. it's happened before. |
| 00:07.36 | Cide | Shirik: did you know divine hymn also gets another tick at 12.5%? |
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| 00:08.14 | Shirik | neat |
| 00:08.24 | Kraps | Corrodias2: what do you mean? |
| 00:08.47 | Corrodias2 | i mean, i don't deal well with the stress of being screwed if i do something wrong |
| 00:09.02 | Corrodias2 | or wait around too long |
| 00:09.56 | Corrodias2 | and i don't deal well with not getting to see everything in a game. games with "high replay value" because they only let you see some portion of their content in one go turn me off, too. |
| 00:10.07 | Kraps | so RPGs are out eh? |
| 00:10.41 | Corrodias2 | i'm sure that depends on the game. i can't think of one that doesn't let me see -just about- everything worth seeing. |
| 00:11.20 | Corrodias2 | the bioware games were just fine in that regard |
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| 00:12.11 | Corrodias2 | sure, you'll get a little different dialog down the road if you make choice A instead of B. |
| 00:25.24 | bleeter | http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/river-rescue-as-sex-toy-ditches-rider-20110117-19sra.html |
| 00:27.41 | Shirik | "The incident prompted a warning from police that blow-up sex toys are "not recognised flotation devicesââ." |
| 00:27.42 | Shirik | .... |
| 00:31.33 | Cide | good to know |
| 00:31.47 | Xyphoid | man, time to refit the boat |
| 00:32.23 | Cide | and I was just ready to take her on her first trip |
| 00:32.29 | Cide | the boat, that is! |
| 00:37.23 | batrick | HIS HIRIK |
| 00:37.30 | batrick | shirik even |
| 00:42.52 | Shirik | hi batrick |
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| 01:03.23 | Lulia | dies. |
| 01:13.33 | Shirik | hm |
| 01:13.37 | Shirik | interesting bit of trivia I learned today |
| 01:14.12 | Shirik | the 27th amendment to the US consitution was ratified in 1992. It was originally proposed in 1789 and took that long to acquire the required number of states' ratifications |
| 01:18.57 | A-KO | do you guys stack or spread on Atramedes? |
| 01:27.01 | Corrodias2 | we spread 'em, then we stack up. mantrain. |
| 01:49.19 | sylvanaar | man we had so much trouble with atramedes |
| 01:49.52 | sylvanaar | stack and ppl took too much dmg, spread and healers had to single target |
| 01:50.04 | Kraps | "You know what they should just give you the option to ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL of the hold the line team" |
| 01:50.11 | Kraps | dies laughing |
| 01:52.15 | sylvanaar | Shirik: its about their pay, ofc it would take over 200 years |
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| 02:01.40 | Galvin | Did they change something on the PTR that made tabs super wide, or is it a bug? |
| 02:04.32 | Cide | probably both? |
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| 02:26.10 | Fisker | <a<a<a<a<a<a<a<a<.,l,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m ,m |
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| 02:36.06 | siezefenrish | looking for addon advice |
| 02:36.39 | mckenziemc | what's the actual difference between the blue and green lineups of Western Digital's hard drives? |
| 02:36.51 | siezefenrish | is this a test? |
| 02:37.14 | siezefenrish | cause i have no idea |
| 02:37.34 | Seerah | siezefenrish: it probably wasn't directed at you specifically ;) |
| 02:37.35 | mckenziemc | supposedly green's supposed to use less power, but all the features advertised for blue seem to be advertised for green too, but i found a green that's cheaper / GB than a similar blue |
| 02:37.55 | mckenziemc | no, separate question, since i don't know where else to ask : / |
| 02:40.24 | siezefenrish | green is obviously green, blue is the low cache model, and black is the high cache model |
| 02:40.50 | siezefenrish | green being the low power consumption and all that hoohaa |
| 02:41.33 | siezefenrish | so i answered a question, i get to ask one right? |
| 02:41.40 | siezefenrish | im still new here |
| 02:42.49 | siezefenrish | well, it was worth a try. guess ill keep looking |
| 02:43.14 | Seerah | why don't you just ask your question? :p |
| 02:43.51 | siezefenrish | cause they give me more pills when i talk to myself |
| 02:43.58 | Seerah | ~asktoask |
| 02:43.58 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:44.03 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 02:44.24 | Seerah | :) |
| 02:44.25 | siezefenrish | im adjusting my addons to be more visual impaired friendly |
| 02:44.30 | |Jelly| | I'm confused. |
| 02:44.36 | |Jelly| | But more importantly ... |
| 02:44.43 | |Jelly| | pounce-hugs Cairenn! |
| 02:44.53 | Seerah | huggles |Je...... oh :( |
| 02:45.01 | mckenziemc | even more importantly... |
| 02:45.04 | mckenziemc | ~botsnack |
| 02:45.04 | purl | mckenziemc: :) |
| 02:45.11 | |Jelly| | Don't worry ... guild time later ;) |
| 02:45.17 | siezefenrish | so i installed the CF3 to work on my fonts and now the words run out of the boxes |
| 02:45.20 | Seerah | okies. I'll track you down ;) |
| 02:45.27 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 02:45.31 | mckenziemc | no offense Cairenn ;p |
| 02:45.42 | siezefenrish | i'm slowly reworking the boxes one at a time to fit the new fonts |
| 02:45.52 | Seerah | siezefenrish: which boxes are you referring to? |
| 02:45.59 | Seerah | (and what is CF3?) |
| 02:46.18 | siezefenrish | ClearFont3, is a font addon for wow. |
| 02:46.25 | Seerah | oh, there's a 3 now? |
| 02:46.33 | siezefenrish | yeah 4.0 friendly |
| 02:46.46 | siezefenrish | but the ui is still broken, you have to use console commands |
| 02:46.56 | Seerah | kk |
| 02:47.13 | siezefenrish | so all my addons have the new font size, which is in the low 20's |
| 02:47.30 | siezefenrish | my vision is close to gone and i like the bigger letters |
| 02:48.03 | siezefenrish | my current project is WhatHappenedToMe, its an addon similar to the old Ouch but only has slots for one person |
| 02:48.36 | siezefenrish | im resizing the scroll frames and background so the new resized font will fit in the box |
| 02:48.45 | Kraps | Shirik: http://kotaku.com/5735149/in-video-games-whats-worth-a-wiki-entry |
| 02:48.45 | siezefenrish | its about 50% bigger |
| 02:49.30 | siezefenrish | im looking for a sandbox that i can run my addons in realtime |
| 02:49.58 | siezefenrish | that will mimic the wow client as far as video settings' |
| 02:49.58 | Iriel | siezefenrish: It's called WoW |
| 02:50.01 | ZorbaTHut | sieze, it's called "WoW" |
| 02:50.01 | Iriel | siezefenrish: 8-) |
| 02:50.02 | mckenziemc | running wow's the only way to do it (legally) |
| 02:50.16 | ZorbaTHut | mc, it's not really a matter of "legally", you could do it legally many other ways as well |
| 02:50.18 | ZorbaTHut | they just don't exist |
| 02:50.23 | Seerah | siezefenrish: I'm sorry to say this after it seems that you've put in a lot of work (and perhaps you've already tried this, but it didn't work out best for you - but sometimes the simplest solution is the easiest to overlook) - have you attempted to increase your UI scale and then tweaking the few things that need modified from there? |
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| 02:50.28 | mckenziemc | that's what i'm saying |
| 02:50.35 | Seerah | yeah, there's no sandbox |
| 02:50.50 | Arrowmaster | where did this CF3 come from? the author of CF1 and CF2 quit addon development afaik |
| 02:50.55 | siezefenrish | what about an xml viewer to view the addons gui? |
| 02:51.00 | bluspacecow | CF ? |
| 02:51.01 | siezefenrish | cf3 is at curse now |
| 02:51.14 | Seerah | Arrowmaster: yeah, I haven't seen Kirkburn, but I think someone else was interested in continuing it |
| 02:51.24 | Seerah | siezefenrish: not all addons use XML |
| 02:51.28 | siezefenrish | not sure who is doing it now. i loved the cf2 |
| 02:51.59 | Seerah | anyway, have you tried scaling up your UI Scale, siezefenrish? |
| 02:52.28 | Dagmar | Reminder: XML is merely a data structure format. |
| 02:52.30 | siezefenrish | yeah, id rather make the important things bigger than making everything bigger |
| 02:53.34 | Seerah | well, was there something that you needed help in accomplishing, or were you just curious about the sandbox? :) |
| 02:53.37 | Arrowmaster | and as always, curses addon search is completely broken |
| 02:53.40 | siezefenrish | i am editing the xml file to adjust the frames on the addon im working on but am either getting lucky and it working or im just tired of opening wow everytime i change a number |
| 02:53.56 | Seerah | siezefenrish: /reload :) |
| 02:54.14 | ZorbaTHut | also a lot of people really hate using XML. I personally never touched it |
| 02:55.07 | siezefenrish | http://www.wowace.com/addons/clearfont3/ |
| 02:55.12 | siezefenrish | found it at wowace |
| 02:55.33 | Arrowmaster | well clearfont3 gave me a 404 on curse |
| 02:55.45 | Arrowmaster | ah, its still alpha |
| 02:55.47 | siezefenrish | ack |
| 02:55.50 | Arrowmaster | so its not on curse yet |
| 02:56.11 | siezefenrish | ah,, it loaded with the curse downloader when i clicked the download button |
| 02:56.41 | siezefenrish | and before you ask,, im running opera browser |
| 02:56.52 | siezefenrish | it does wierd things like that |
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| 02:58.41 | Arrowmaster | and im fairly certain im going to have to remove clearfont3 from wowace here in a few minutes...... |
| 02:58.52 | siezefenrish | wha wha? |
| 02:59.34 | Arrowmaster | gota double check but i think its including a copyright font that nobody has permission to redistribute |
| 03:00.07 | siezefenrish | ah. im guess a lot of addon devs hang out here? |
| 03:00.20 | siezefenrish | i got the address from the wow forums |
| 03:00.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:01.27 | Arrowmaster | technically this channel is the wowinterface.com channel but its used as just general wowuidev hence the name |
| 03:01.32 | Aurorus | siezefenrish: Marinate here would be more appropriate |
| 03:01.45 | siezefenrish | then im in good company |
| 03:01.58 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 03:02.04 | bluspacecow | i just hang out here like a bad smell |
| 03:02.06 | siezefenrish | should be less trolling and better answers than in the wow forums |
| 03:02.07 | bluspacecow | i dont do addons |
| 03:02.13 | bluspacecow | .. |
| 03:02.17 | bluspacecow | we troll too ! |
| 03:02.17 | mckenziemc | is confused |
| 03:02.20 | Seerah | at least you're a green now :p |
| 03:02.22 | bluspacecow | thats what fisker is here for :) |
| 03:02.32 | mckenziemc | oh |
| 03:02.42 | bluspacecow | oh and airtonix too |
| 03:02.50 | bluspacecow | sorry air almost forgot you |
| 03:02.52 | mckenziemc | ~trout bluspacecow |
| 03:02.52 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout! |
| 03:02.59 | bluspacecow | ~fiskerslap |
| 03:02.59 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 03:12.49 | siezefenrish | very nice. /reload ui is much better than logging completely out of wow |
| 03:13.02 | siezefenrish | i was not aware it reloaded that far |
| 03:15.54 | Iriel | siezefenrish: the only things it can't do is recognize files that weren't there when wow was started, and read a number of the ## entries at the start of a .toc file |
| 03:16.11 | Iriel | For lua/xml changes it's a full Lua restart and re-parse |
| 03:16.46 | Zyn | woopsie |
| 03:16.47 | Zyn | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009VXAM0/ref=ox_ya_os_product |
| 03:17.00 | siezefenrish | thats why it wont recognize addons if i download them mid game. i guess thats why i though i needed a full log out |
| 03:17.45 | Arrowmaster | Zyn: lol, so temped to order one right now |
| 03:17.52 | Zyn | out of stock though |
| 03:17.58 | Zyn | people found out |
| 03:18.00 | siezefenrish | wow 39 bucks is pretty cheap |
| 03:18.32 | siezefenrish | fell off a truck cheap |
| 03:18.38 | Arrowmaster | if i order now though that should mean the $39 price if they restock |
| 03:19.05 | Corrodias2 | from target |
| 03:19.10 | Corrodias2 | out of stock. |
| 03:19.20 | siezefenrish | go go raincheck |
| 03:19.46 | Corrodias2 | i do not recall what the law and precedence say about obvious price errors like that |
| 03:20.48 | siezefenrish | isnt there always the fine print "we are not responsible for misprints"? |
| 03:21.11 | Corrodias2 | something like that, yes, but that isn't necessarily any better than saying "i am not responsible for loss of life" and then knifing someone |
| 03:21.58 | Corrodias2 | they can SAY it, but it doesn't make it true. necessarily. it may be true anyway, though. |
| 03:22.09 | Arrowmaster | seems it was supposed to be the move controller |
| 03:22.30 | Arrowmaster | at the very least you wont actually get charged for the controller if they fix it |
| 03:22.49 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 03:22.50 | Arrowmaster | http://www.target.com/dp/B0009VXAM0 |
| 03:23.43 | Arrowmaster | im so ordering now |
| 03:23.58 | Xyphoid | buy two, get free shipping |
| 03:24.01 | siezefenrish | Arriving soon! Order now for shipment in 2 to 4 weeks |
| 03:24.08 | siezefenrish | says right on the page |
| 03:24.20 | Corrodias2 | yep |
| 03:25.10 | foxlit | 60gb, though |
| 03:25.43 | Arrowmaster | those dont exist anymore |
| 03:25.46 | siezefenrish | id hate to get charged $399 and have explain it to my banker |
| 03:26.25 | Arrowmaster | one of the amazon comments said they called target and were told that target would have to honor the order but would send a slim version instead as that is the only model they have |
| 03:28.18 | Dagmar | So long as it's got a 60gb drive in it |
| 03:29.15 | mckenziemc | ~random |
| 03:29.50 | Dagmar | LAME |
| 03:29.50 | mckenziemc | ~factoid random |
| 03:29.51 | purl | ACTION gives random a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 03:29.56 | Dagmar | When you get to checkout, the name of what you're buying changes |
| 03:30.12 | Arrowmaster | not for me |
| 03:30.16 | Corrodias2 | that said, it was probably a Target manager or submanaver, not one of their lawyers |
| 03:30.35 | mckenziemc | ~listkeys trout |
| 03:30.54 | mckenziemc | ~whaletrout Fisker |
| 03:30.55 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker with Hugh's more acrobatic cousin, Milliardo, who in turn slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:31.02 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:31.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, if you wind up with a Move Grip don't be suprised |
| 03:31.25 | Arrowmaster | ill just complain and get a full refund |
| 03:34.24 | Arrowmaster | order placed |
| 03:34.24 | airtonix | shit yes! 39 dollars for a ps3 |
| 03:34.28 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 03:34.36 | airtonix | ima buy ten |
| 03:35.04 | Dagmar | Good luck. |
| 03:35.05 | Arrowmaster | if i actually get a ps3 slim from this ill just transfer all my data to it and use my 80gb ps3 for linux |
| 03:35.17 | Dagmar | When you are at the final checkout stage the item is named "PlayStation 3 Move Advanced Shooter Grip (PlayStation 3)" |
| 03:35.26 | airtonix | buzzkill |
| 03:35.26 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: not for me |
| 03:35.28 | airtonix | umad? |
| 03:35.30 | Dagmar | They're going to hide behind that |
| 03:35.52 | Kraps | broseph |
| 03:35.56 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 03:36.10 | Arrowmaster | im printing an invoice that says "PlayStation 3" |
| 03:36.39 | airtonix | balls of harder substance |
| 03:36.41 | Dagmar | Did you order through Amazon? |
| 03:36.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:36.56 | Dagmar | That would be why then |
| 03:38.00 | Dagmar | Amazon may be eating that |
| 03:38.23 | airtonix | check out the description then look at the shipping dimensions |
| 03:38.25 | Arrowmaster | target will be |
| 03:38.42 | airtonix | Estimated Ship Dimensions : 20.2 inches length x 8.6 inches width x 3.4 inches height |
| 03:38.48 | airtonix | thats a small ship |
| 03:39.03 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 03:39.09 | airtonix | i dont think i can trust that ship to deliver to australia |
| 03:39.28 | Dagmar | Amazon's just picking up that first title string and filling in the rest of the details themselves |
| 03:39.29 | airtonix | btw |
| 03:39.39 | airtonix | what controller is 20 inches long ? |
| 03:40.01 | Dagmar | Sony move controller packaging |
| 03:40.37 | airtonix | List Price:$499.99 |
| 03:40.38 | airtonix | Price:$39.99 |
| 03:40.38 | airtonix | You Save:$460.00 (92%) |
| 03:40.43 | airtonix | hell yeah |
| 03:40.55 | airtonix | hope it goes well for you Arrowmaster |
| 03:43.29 | Corrodias2 | good luck in your fraud |
| 03:46.34 | Seerah | according to amazon it's not fraud. their description is for the PS3, their list price is for the PS3, and they're recommending you get the newer PS3 160GB. |
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| 03:47.23 | siezefenrish | and they offer to buy back the 60gb version for $110 bucks on an amazon gift card right under it |
| 03:47.39 | siezefenrish | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah either i get a $39 PS3 or i get nothing |
| 03:47.48 | Arrowmaster | and pay nothing |
| 03:49.32 | foxlit | 74 item levels later, I finally get a glove upgrade |
| 03:51.09 | siezefenrish | i farmed hoo for tank bracers up until the day i got exalted with rama. i hit exalted in the lower half and both plate bracers dropped upstairs |
| 03:52.00 | siezefenrish | im guessing we all play wow in one form or another in here |
| 03:52.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont |
| 03:52.34 | siezefenrish | ? developing addons a hobby? |
| 03:52.41 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 03:52.50 | Cide | he did |
| 03:52.54 | Cide | now he's just trolling and hating |
| 03:53.00 | Cide | oh wait that's me |
| 03:53.09 | siezefenrish | ah, well, any company is better than no company |
| 03:53.29 | bluspacecow | except when it's a sock puppet |
| 03:53.35 | bluspacecow | thats just creepy |
| 03:54.05 | siezefenrish | ~agree |
| 03:54.06 | purl | ACTION nods her head |
| 03:54.39 | Seerah | hugs bluspacecow |
| 03:54.46 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 03:55.19 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 03:55.23 | bluspacecow | purl is female ? |
| 03:55.23 | purl | ACTION confuses all the nearby males |
| 03:55.29 | bluspacecow | *mind is blown* |
| 03:55.38 | bluspacecow | purl you are male |
| 03:55.38 | purl | bluspacecow: I think you lost me on that one |
| 03:56.02 | siezefenrish | im lost too |
| 03:56.14 | siezefenrish | i dont know any of the commands for this box yet |
| 03:58.04 | Dagmar | Oof. |
| 03:58.06 | Dagmar | Amazon has an out. |
| 03:59.00 | Dagmar | http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_468502_confirm?nodeId=468502#confirm |
| 03:59.05 | Dagmar | Shucks. |
| 04:00.12 | siezefenrish | Sellers may follow different policies in the event of a mispriced item.?? |
| 04:00.26 | siezefenrish | still hope on the target end |
| 04:00.48 | siezefenrish | but if you ordered it through amazon, looks grim |
| 04:01.14 | Dagmar | Target will ship you a controller strap-on like the last screen says |
| 04:04.05 | siezefenrish | can i edit blp files? |
| 04:04.25 | Seerah | sure. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
| 04:04.34 | Seerah | and have a look at AI-Art |
| 04:04.41 | siezefenrish | hmm sweet |
| 04:06.22 | siezefenrish | and i can edit png with paint? |
| 04:07.35 | Dagmar | If you hate yourself, sure. |
| 04:09.00 | siezefenrish | crap that is nice |
| 04:09.41 | Dagmar | Get Gimp. |
| 04:10.12 | siezefenrish | i downloaded it earlier and my os ate it. ill have to send a search party |
| 04:11.07 | siezefenrish | should i be concerned with volume of files? do i need to erase all the png files when im done? |
| 04:14.28 | siezefenrish | now that is nice, found the gimp, kinda overwhelmed by all the buttons, going to take a second to figure out |
| 04:14.44 | siezefenrish | thank goodness for dual monitors |
| 04:16.27 | siezefenrish | aha, first edit finished, got rid of that annoying black bar that was ill placed on the rez window. |
| 04:17.09 | siezefenrish | is there a resource for free background textures? |
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| 04:19.23 | Wobin | purl has always been female |
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| 05:00.40 | siezefenrish | thanks for the help, i have plenty to play with for a couple hours now |
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| 05:24.49 | ccox | http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/16/ricky-gervais-rudest-golden-globes-jokes/ |
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| 05:34.51 | siezefenrish | quick question, blizz gets its artwork through the artwork.mpq file and i can extract the info from the mpq file. can i alter it and put it back? and is it against terms to do so? |
| 05:35.23 | siezefenrish | or does the alteration need to be a standalone addon? |
| 05:37.11 | airtonix | if you put it back the file size will be different and the client will choke |
| 05:37.34 | siezefenrish | i thought it might. blizz is anal about its property |
| 05:39.03 | airtonix | anyway, it's bad form to replace defaults |
| 05:39.13 | airtonix | makes it harder to turn the customisations off |
| 05:40.12 | siezefenrish | i see how that could be a problem |
| 05:54.34 | Thunder_Child | siezefenrish: it's not anality. poeople used to be able to do that, and blizz didnt mind so much, then they found ways to abuse it, then blizz started minding. |
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| 05:59.21 | kd3 | any fresh 85s been in the dungeon finder lately? |
| 05:59.41 | kd3 | do level 85 dungeons now require 305 average item level (up from 272)? |
| 06:03.04 | Wobin | I'm not sure |
| 06:03.18 | Wobin | I don't have a 85 that has that low a avg ilvl |
| 06:03.40 | Wobin | since quest blues are at least 307 or whatever |
| 06:04.28 | Wobin | siezefenrish: eg, replacing the model for the campfire, with the stairs to the Dark Portal. |
| 06:04.34 | Wobin | instant hax |
| 06:05.02 | kd3 | it was zep towers originally, which as amusing |
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| 06:07.38 | Wobin | I remember them using them to get over walls in AQ20 |
| 06:07.43 | Seerah | siezefenrish: if you are wanting to replace UI artwork (the .blp files) that you were talking about earlier, you would do it the way that AI-Art does it, which I referred you to earlier |
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| 06:55.09 | airtonix | omnomnom |
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| 07:04.54 | bluspacecow | hey guys and gizzards whats nslookup ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net return for you ? |
| 07:06.00 | greppy | ak.worldofwarcraft.com.edgesuite.net is an alias for a65.d.akamai.net. |
| 07:06.00 | greppy | a65.d.akamai.net has address 184.51.200.88 |
| 07:06.01 | greppy | a65.d.akamai.net has address 184.51.200.121 |
| 07:07.10 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 07:07.16 | bluspacecow | so its akamei.net |
| 07:07.22 | bluspacecow | going to be different for everyone. |
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| 07:15.15 | airtonix | yep |
| 07:17.12 | Xzempt | anyone know the script command to make a window interactive |
| 07:17.18 | Xzempt | chat window ^ |
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| 07:30.37 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:36.22 | KarlKFI | rofl |
| 07:36.24 | KarlKFI | "Schnottz's Bodyguard yells: Hide your vives! Hide your children! Zhey're killink everyvone up in he'ah!" |
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| 08:51.31 | electronicmaji | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:14.57 | Frisker | SCIENCE DAMN YOU |
| 09:14.58 | Frisker | http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/01/13/Cloning-might-create-live-woolly-mammoth/UPI-58171294964926/ |
| 09:16.19 | airtonix | move aside |
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| 09:17.03 | airtonix | Frisker, this is how the human race ends |
| 09:17.09 | Frisker | yes |
| 09:17.29 | airtonix | via Mamozilla |
| 09:18.10 | airtonix | knowing the japanese they won't be content with just a normal mammoth |
| 09:18.24 | airtonix | it'll either be forty billion mice size mammoth that can eat through steel |
| 09:18.37 | airtonix | or a huge massive one that farts sarin gas |
| 09:19.40 | electronicmaji | who heres a faggot? |
| 09:19.52 | Mikk | we could all be for all you know |
| 09:20.00 | Mikk | want buttseks? |
| 09:20.28 | Frisker | one thing we can say with any certainty Mikk is that electronicmaji is a faggot |
| 09:21.05 | Mikk | the 13 year old brittish variety methinks |
| 09:23.12 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysopJVqsVFM |
| 09:23.18 | airtonix | electronicmaji debut |
| 09:26.10 | electronicmaji | pushes mikk down and grabs a dildo from his pocket. He slams it into Mikk's asshole without a single drop of lubrication, stretching his asshole until a vein pops, blood spurting everywhere. |
| 09:26.54 | Mikk | bwhaha |
| 09:27.29 | Mikk | Methinks electronicmaji wants some of the real stuff. How about a telephone pole dipped in tabasco & rolled in metal shavings? |
| 09:27.38 | airtonix | "you eyeballin me" |
| 09:27.39 | Mikk | Bend over boy! |
| 09:28.36 | greppy | I probably shouldn't ask, but who's pocket did the dildo come out of? |
| 09:31.17 | electronicmaji | mine bitch |
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| 09:55.50 | Adys | !api getcursorinfo |
| 09:55.51 | lua_bot | GetCursorInfo: Returns information about the contents of the cursor (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCursorInfo) |
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| 10:10.58 | airtonix | http://www.scificool.com/concept-artwork-for-bsg-blood-and-chrome/ |
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| 10:57.37 | airtonix | three more phiilip k dick stories being turned into tv series |
| 10:57.44 | airtonix | phillip* |
| 10:58.55 | airtonix | The Man in the High Castle, Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said & We can remember it for you wholesale |
| 11:06.33 | airtonix | well, movies/tv |
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| 12:07.40 | Frisker | i'm more sick than i expected airtonix |
| 12:07.59 | Frisker | also turns out that some jersk infected me |
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| 12:08.08 | Frisker | who also infected like everyone else here |
| 12:08.35 | Kalroth | haaaaa |
| 12:08.36 | airtonix | You know some viri are sentient |
| 12:08.40 | Kalroth | fisker is sick |
| 12:08.46 | Kalroth | can i have your hardware fisker |
| 12:08.49 | airtonix | and will keep you sick until you infect someone else |
| 12:08.53 | Frisker | nooo Kalroth |
| 12:09.08 | Frisker | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00624/13-01-2011_624217o.jpg <-me when you take my hardware Kalroth |
| 12:09.51 | Kalroth | qq |
| 12:10.28 | Frisker | can't help but think those look like crocodile tears |
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| 12:23.44 | airtonix | What do you get if you leave fisker in a room full of goats ? |
| 12:25.23 | greppy | doesn't know, but bets the pictures end up on the internet. |
| 12:25.58 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/113f9bcc-6f34-4b99-9e63-66ca6fbe0c3d.jpg |
| 12:27.04 | airtonix | claps |
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| 13:29.34 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 13:30.18 | A-KO | http://pagingdrgupta.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/17/excess-gaming-linked-to-depression-bad-grades/?hpt=T2 |
| 13:30.20 | A-KO | oh here's another one |
| 13:30.59 | angayelle | done my posts on gb and fr wow forums about my addons, now i tried to make it on us ones, ofc i need an us char for it. |
| 13:31.09 | angayelle | any way to connect there and create a toon ? |
| 13:31.20 | angayelle | without actually buying another account |
| 13:32.10 | zenzio | "one thing the BSDs typically have going for them that Linux does not is well-designed interfaces. (They may not be usable, and they may not be documented, but they are well designed.)" |
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| 13:32.18 | A-KO | What are you trying to do angayelle? |
| 13:32.33 | angayelle | getting acces to us wow forums |
| 13:32.45 | angayelle | write access ofc |
| 13:32.55 | zenzio | don't believe you can without a US account |
| 13:33.08 | A-KO | angayelle: But the question is why? |
| 13:33.11 | A-KO | what are you asking? |
| 13:33.15 | A-KO | perhaps someone here can answer it for you? |
| 13:33.41 | angayelle | i have no question to ask, i wanna advertise about my addons on us forums |
| 13:33.54 | angayelle | spreading the love and stuff |
| 13:34.21 | A-KO | Word of mouth is usually the best advertising :P |
| 13:35.18 | angayelle | it is, but it doesn't do harm to have all potential users know too |
| 13:35.19 | mitch0 | zenzio: most stuff in bsd-land is pretty well documented |
| 13:35.48 | zenzio | mitch0: note the quote-marks, it's not my statement; I just found it witty |
| 13:36.36 | mitch0 | well, they should've left out the undocumented part ;) |
| 13:45.47 | airtonix | wipes out fiskerdoers where ever they may lurk |
| 13:48.08 | karl_w_w | !api setbinding |
| 13:48.08 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'setbinding': SetBindingItem, SetBindingMacro, SetBindingSpell, SetBindingClick, SetBinding |
| 13:48.35 | karl_w_w | !api setbindings |
| 13:48.35 | lua_bot | SetBindingSpell: Binds a key combination to cast a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetBindingSpell) |
| 13:50.31 | karl_w_w | !api setconsolekey |
| 13:50.32 | lua_bot | SetConsoleKey: This is a Blizzard internal function (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetConsoleKey) |
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| 13:51.58 | karl_w_w | ^wrong |
| 13:52.32 | airtonix | no wrong is being smashed in the face by a midget |
| 13:53.44 | jnwhiteh | Abn |
| 13:53.53 | jnwhiteh | Ah, a talent that re-enables removing roots in addition to snares. |
| 13:53.57 | jnwhiteh | that makes much more sense now,. |
| 13:54.23 | mikma | wut? |
| 13:54.30 | jnwhiteh | for druids |
| 13:54.33 | karl_w_w | specialization* |
| 13:55.35 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: and whats the different between the two? |
| 13:55.41 | jnwhiteh | it'll be automatic for resto? |
| 13:55.46 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 13:55.48 | jnwhiteh | ah, cool |
| 13:55.54 | karl_w_w | specializations are the ones u get when u pick a tree |
| 13:56.22 | mikma | jnwhiteh: where is this info? |
| 13:56.27 | jnwhiteh | mmo-champ ofc |
| 13:56.38 | airtonix | on zee intalink |
| 13:57.18 | mikma | restoration :P |
| 13:57.54 | jnwhiteh | yes, as it should be |
| 13:57.54 | jnwhiteh | http://notch.tumblr.com/post/2763747303 |
| 13:58.34 | mikma | no, that sucks more balls than tekkub |
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| 14:03.31 | jnwhiteh | Fisker isn't here |
| 14:03.34 | jnwhiteh | confusing |
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| 14:04.36 | airtonix | i know |
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| 14:04.54 | A-KO | hm |
| 14:04.55 | airtonix | my plans are ahead of schedule |
| 14:04.58 | A-KO | Are there new boa vendors? |
| 14:16.58 | karl_w_w | yes, the guild vendor |
| 14:17.45 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: I don't get it |
| 14:17.56 | jnwhiteh | don't get what? |
| 14:17.58 | Kraps | hey cablevision, you're terrible |
| 14:18.05 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: that minecraft thing |
| 14:18.16 | jnwhiteh | its a button that you push and it shoots arrows at you-= |
| 14:18.20 | jnwhiteh | not much to 'get' =) |
| 14:18.37 | mitch0 | uhum |
| 14:18.49 | mitch0 | I kinda liked the sheep though |
| 14:18.52 | jnwhiteh | flaming arrows |
| 14:20.13 | angayelle | bnet error : 503 Unavailable This service is unavailable to any character under level 100. |
| 14:20.27 | angayelle | need to lvl |
| 14:20.31 | airtonix | i lol'd |
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| 14:26.13 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5735250/hacker-holds-video-game-hostage |
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| 14:38.11 | mojosdojo | Kraps: lol |
| 14:38.55 | mojosdojo | seems to be a good thing I never startet with RoM |
| 14:44.56 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG9SPywEGm4&feature=player_embedded |
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| 14:55.27 | airtonix | i love watching people use computers in tv series |
| 14:58.48 | amro | I don't |
| 15:03.06 | airtonix | does it make you homicidal? |
| 15:05.34 | airtonix | hello |
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| 15:09.59 | `3ICE | Hi. I just registered on wowinterface.com and I find myself unable to post comments. |
| 15:10.42 | airtonix | Cairenn ? |
| 15:10.50 | Cairenn | airtonix: ? |
| 15:10.57 | airtonix | this chap needs your help |
| 15:10.57 | Cairenn | ah |
| 15:11.15 | Cairenn | `3ICE: what's your name on the site? |
| 15:11.19 | mitch0 | have you registered with a nick like the one here? |
| 15:11.28 | `3ICE | its "3ICE" |
| 15:11.47 | `3ICE | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=265915 |
| 15:11.59 | Cairenn | you should be set now |
| 15:12.16 | `3ICE | Thank you. |
| 15:12.27 | mitch0 | and so the spamming begins :P |
| 15:12.31 | Cairenn | The problem you were experiencing is because when someone registers on the site, it sends out a confirmation email. Unfortunately spam filters have a habit of eating them. I swear, they must be chocolate flavoured or something! |
| 15:12.31 | Cairenn | I've gone in and manually activated your account for you. |
| 15:13.00 | `3ICE | Yep, the achtivation email never landed in my inbox. Not even in the spam folder. |
| 15:13.15 | Cairenn | yeah, no idea, but you're all set anyway, so is all good :) |
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| 15:18.11 | amro | chocolate flavored? send a few my way, Cairenn |
| 15:18.19 | Cairenn | amro: hehehe |
| 15:18.39 | `3ICE | you could try rewording the activation email. |
| 15:19.01 | `3ICE | i have customized it for my forum |
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| 15:20.30 | `3ICE | The file to edit is at 3ice.hu\public_html\forum\language\en\email\user_welcome_inactive.txt |
| 15:20.38 | `3ICE | (replace 3ice.hu with your ftp host) |
| 15:21.25 | Cairenn | I'm sure dolby already has done something like that, but I don't know for sure, that's his side of things |
| 15:26.08 | jnwhiteh | I love showing people minecraft =) |
| 15:26.33 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: better than showing people pictures of "cute" cats |
| 15:26.36 | `3ICE | I love showing people WarCraft 3 Reign of Chaos. |
| 15:26.39 | jnwhiteh | TRUTH |
| 15:26.42 | mikma | haste: http://open.spotify.com/album/4sycOSeBPz5yatV5iZ5n1d |
| 15:27.16 | Fisker | i'm very sick |
| 15:27.24 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.31 | airtonix | not anymore |
| 15:27.52 | mikma | hah |
| 15:29.50 | amro | jnwhiteh: quick question, what's your dev env like for go? |
| 15:29.57 | amro | editor/buildsystem etc |
| 15:30.49 | mikma | mac |
| 15:31.07 | airtonix | riveting tale chap |
| 15:32.04 | Fisker | you know what is great about me being sick airtonix ? |
| 15:32.14 | airtonix | breakfast in bed ? |
| 15:32.22 | Fisker | Steve Jobs is on a medical leave |
| 15:32.24 | mikma | break fast bed |
| 15:32.28 | airtonix | legal pot prescriptions ? |
| 15:32.34 | mikma | fisker: yeah, he's got teh aids |
| 15:32.52 | Fisker | i wish |
| 15:32.57 | mikma | we know |
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| 15:33.09 | airtonix | i think in australia you can get legal pot if you have arthritis |
| 15:33.27 | airtonix | well actually |
| 15:33.30 | airtonix | to be preciss |
| 15:34.12 | Fisker | click airtonix in place |
| 15:34.16 | Fisker | clicks* |
| 15:34.20 | airtonix | yeah it hurts |
| 15:34.50 | airtonix | luckily i don't have arthritis |
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| 15:42.35 | airtonix | so fisker |
| 15:42.42 | airtonix | tell me |
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| 15:53.50 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 15:56.36 | Fisker | facebook eats babies |
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| 16:04.07 | Fisker | sylvanaar_work |
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| 16:11.00 | `3ICE | http://wowinterface.com/ appears to have went down. unknown error 101 e_ConnReset |
| 16:11.16 | Tuller | truth |
| 16:11.36 | `3ICE | just when I posted my beautiful comment. |
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| 16:17.32 | cog|work | dolby: ^ |
| 16:18.14 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 16:18.48 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 16:18.49 | Fisker | hello cog|work |
| 16:18.59 | cog|work | Fisker: http://www.wow-heroes.com/?zone=us&server=Kirin+Tor&name=Cogwheel |
| 16:19.16 | Fisker | i'm so reporting you |
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| 16:30.02 | `3ICE | Oh hey, the site is back up. In other news: Please check out my BindingsReminder keyboard layout, it needs help - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8691&so=newest&page=1#comments |
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| 16:31.08 | Cide | if people want to use your addon I'm sure they'll find it in other ways than blatantly advertising it in here |
| 16:31.24 | `3ICE | except its not my addon |
| 16:31.38 | Cide | doesn't matter |
| 16:31.49 | airtonix | Cide |
| 16:31.55 | airtonix | ysomean |
| 16:32.05 | airtonix | i will use your addon |
| 16:32.15 | airtonix | problem is |
| 16:32.16 | `3ICE | how about i post the question then |
| 16:32.17 | `3ICE | I don't know how to get the two Hungarumlauts (Hungarian umlauts) to work: oO and uU. They are double acute accented letters, which everything seems to hate. Their capital versions even show up as "?" in chat. |
| 16:32.40 | airtonix | whats a hungerman ? |
| 16:32.55 | `3ICE | umlaut is a type of accent over letters |
| 16:32.59 | `3ICE | ou |
| 16:33.04 | `3ICE | it doesnt work on IRC |
| 16:33.06 | airtonix | oh |
| 16:33.09 | airtonix | windows ? |
| 16:33.36 | `3ICE | it works in wow but not in addons |
| 16:33.55 | `3ICE | i did encode the .lua file as UTF8, but is appears as a questionmark |
| 16:34.18 | `3ICE | and i use the same lucida font so im all out of ideas |
| 16:34.28 | tem|work | Cide, I need to pee in someone's cherios today. Yours appear to be already peed in, but I don't mind. May I? |
| 16:34.30 | Cairenn | (it was a problem at the datacenter) |
| 16:34.57 | tem|work | has a case of the mondays |
| 16:35.06 | `3ICE | he jsut misunderstood my request for help s advertising, it can happen to everyone |
| 16:35.18 | airtonix | tem|work, would you like a troop of baboons? |
| 16:35.26 | Fisker | no airtonix! |
| 16:35.36 | tem|work | a hhhwhat? |
| 16:35.40 | airtonix | `3ICE, Cide mistakes all written communication as advertising |
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| 16:37.27 | airtonix | `3ICE, you might want to ask this question on the wowinterface forums, there are others here that may have at one point dealt with localisation, but they could be asleep. (and there will be more on the forums that would have encountered this ) |
| 16:37.51 | Cide | tem|work: go ahead |
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| 16:50.08 | jnwhiteh | `3ICE: Can you link me to the characters you're trying to display? |
| 16:50.37 | `3ICE | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%90#Technical_notes |
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| 16:53.57 | jnwhiteh | hrm, no idea! |
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| 16:55.21 | airtonix | oh no ritilan karate kid |
| 16:55.52 | `3ICE | Addons can send chinese symbols, but not hungarian? Both are in unicode and both work fine in wow chat (Not that I talk much (if any) hungarian inside wow. |
| 16:56.27 | Shirik | If you can do it in WoW, you can do it in an addon |
| 16:56.42 | `3ICE | ...or so are we led to believe! :) |
| 16:56.44 | Shirik | No |
| 16:56.57 | airtonix | demonstrations |
| 16:57.01 | Shirik | It is literally impossible for something done by Blizzard's UI to functionally not be possible in an addon. It is written in the same language. |
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| 16:57.12 | Shirik | The only thing you might run into is a protection issue, but that's not relevant here. |
| 16:57.12 | `3ICE | Yeah, true. I am sure I am doing something wrong. |
| 16:57.48 | Slaren | it may simply be that the font the addon uses doesn't have these characters |
| 16:58.00 | `3ICE | but even the official (and crappy) keybinding UI made by blizzard has no love for those accented characters. |
| 16:58.24 | jnwhiteh | you can extract and check the font if that would help |
| 16:58.32 | `3ICE | they show up lowercase instead of uppercase for example |
| 16:58.37 | jnwhiteh | well, they don't publish the game in Hungary |
| 16:58.43 | `3ICE | and the double umlaut ones are "?" |
| 16:58.47 | `3ICE | they do |
| 16:58.56 | jnwhiteh | but its not localized for them |
| 16:59.01 | `3ICE | i have a 10 day gift card printed in hungarian |
| 16:59.04 | jnwhiteh | there aren't hungarian servers |
| 16:59.08 | jnwhiteh | sure, but that's different |
| 16:59.11 | `3ICE | i got it with starcraft 2, also in hungarian on release day, mind you |
| 16:59.15 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 16:59.18 | jnwhiteh | but the game is not localized |
| 16:59.21 | jnwhiteh | for Hungarian |
| 16:59.23 | `3ICE | i wish it was english though |
| 16:59.28 | `3ICE | unit names in hungarian are silly |
| 16:59.51 | `3ICE | they translated the whole menual so i had to download an english one to make it make sense |
| 17:00.05 | `3ICE | anyway, im getting off topic |
| 17:00.25 | `3ICE | back to writing a post in the Lua/XML help forum |
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| 17:03.12 | amro | jnwhiteh: did you answer me? I didn't see |
| 17:03.17 | jnwhiteh | amro: I didn't see the question |
| 17:03.30 | amro | [16:29] <amro> jnwhiteh: quick question, what's your dev env like for go? |
| 17:03.30 | jnwhiteh | `3ICE: I'm incredibly confident the issue is a font issue |
| 17:03.46 | jnwhiteh | So download a free font that includes those characters, and include it with your addon. |
| 17:03.48 | `3ICE | lucida or whatever its called is used in the addon and in the wow chat |
| 17:03.54 | jnwhiteh | amro: I just use vim, actually |
| 17:03.59 | `3ICE | the letter works in wow chat not in addon |
| 17:04.09 | amro | jnwhiteh: +makefiles? |
| 17:04.15 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 17:04.19 | jnwhiteh | based on the core makefiles |
| 17:04.20 | airtonix | realmen(tm) use pen and paper |
| 17:04.30 | `3ICE | how do you compile paper? |
| 17:04.32 | jnwhiteh | i can give you an example of a basic project |
| 17:04.37 | `3ICE | roll it up and throw it! |
| 17:04.40 | amro | ok, I'll take a look. it's incredibly hard to google stuff about go, too much pollution on that keyword |
| 17:04.57 | Atriace | I'd heard rumor quite some time ago that Blizzard had implemented a replacement to LibStub. Is there any truth to this? |
| 17:05.00 | airtonix | `3ICE, with binding |
| 17:05.10 | jnwhiteh | amro: golang is the keyword, always |
| 17:05.22 | jnwhiteh | amro: Are you making a library (package) or an executable (command) |
| 17:05.35 | jnwhiteh | the makefiles are slightly different between the two |
| 17:05.47 | amro | executable |
| 17:06.11 | jnwhiteh | amro: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/322283/ |
| 17:06.21 | jnwhiteh | use 'gomake' in that directory |
| 17:06.29 | jnwhiteh | main.go will be compiled to the executable 'example' |
| 17:06.55 | amro | jnwhiteh: does it pull in targets like make clean? |
| 17:06.58 | amro | or no need? |
| 17:07.02 | jnwhiteh | it pulls them in |
| 17:07.13 | amro | neato, thanks |
| 17:09.38 | `3ICE | Thanks for directing me to the forum, I have made my post (#226944). |
| 17:10.31 | Fisker | coughs at jnwhiteh |
| 17:10.40 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: GB nightlies |
| 17:11.06 | Fisker | i know |
| 17:13.00 | Fisker | i'm very sick though |
| 17:21.27 | airtonix | so that means you need something stronger |
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| 17:23.05 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_Ocean_Tsunami_Warning_System&diff=prev&oldid=407850378 |
| 17:23.06 | Shirik | wtf |
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| 17:24.07 | airtonix | qqmoar ? |
| 17:24.12 | angayelle | use the button, shirik |
| 17:24.20 | angayelle | you got to |
| 17:25.10 | airtonix | it will be tight |
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| 17:33.58 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/loadingreadyrun/2645-The-LRR-CD-ROM-Game |
| 17:34.18 | Cide1 | hahahaha Shirik |
| 17:34.28 | Fisker | no foxlit |
| 17:35.25 | Shirik | so here's a fun discussion |
| 17:35.42 | Shirik | why do we still use CDs/DVDs for consoles like xbox and ps3 if these companies are so concerned about copyright issues? |
| 17:36.03 | Shirik | Why not go back to a proprietary form of media like the cartridges? |
| 17:36.04 | sylvanaar_work | because the consoles are outdated |
| 17:36.16 | Shirik | Now I'm not asking why CDs are better than cartridges, that's long been proven |
| 17:36.32 | Shirik | what I'm asking is why we can't create something new that incorporates those techonologies, but is proprietary |
| 17:36.54 | foxlit | scale |
| 17:37.26 | amro | Shirik: pirate cartridges exist too |
| 17:37.54 | foxlit | not that they haven't tried. |
| 17:37.56 | foxlit | See: UMDs. |
| 17:37.58 | amro | (see DS for a modern example) |
| 17:37.59 | Shirik | yes but on a much smaller scale |
| 17:38.06 | amro | nope |
| 17:38.15 | amro | you don't have to make a separate cartridge for each pirated game |
| 17:38.24 | Shirik | The number of people with CD/DVD burners is radically larger than those that deal with pirated cartridges |
| 17:38.26 | amro | you can just make a special cartridge that takes a memory card or usb storage or whatever |
| 17:39.05 | amro | just look at the market for DS flashcarts Shirik |
| 17:39.07 | sylvanaar_work | it was just probably cheaper to use dvd |
| 17:39.07 | Shirik | when you get it down to a purely software issue (note: not xbox 360) it becomes much more widescale |
| 17:39.25 | sylvanaar_work | plus it played dvds |
| 17:39.51 | amro | gamecube also had its weird backward dvds |
| 17:39.52 | Atriace | And in PS3's case, they were trying to push a new medium with BluRay |
| 17:39.56 | amro | those too were cracked |
| 17:40.23 | amro | now that you mention it, they're being fairly sensible by not wasting resources fighting a losing battle |
| 17:40.26 | amro | I wish they'd do the same with DRM |
| 17:40.33 | Shirik | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimmycrackhorn&diff=408423993&oldid=408418682 |
| 17:40.45 | Shirik | DRM is lol |
| 17:40.49 | Shirik | because it's not only a losing battle |
| 17:41.00 | Shirik | it's also hurting legitimate users more than those violating copyright |
| 17:41.46 | foxlit | meh |
| 17:42.07 | foxlit | Did the PS3 drm hurt anyone? |
| 17:42.26 | amro | no, but ps3 drm isn't all drm |
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| 17:43.00 | foxlit | But then shirik's blanket statement is... blanket. |
| 17:43.01 | Shirik | did the ps3 ___________ |
| 17:43.02 | Shirik | is enough |
| 17:43.09 | Shirik | because the answer is always "no" |
| 17:43.24 | Shirik | did the ps3 have games? |
| 17:43.30 | Shirik | did the ps3 cause anyone enjoyment? |
| 17:43.38 | Shirik | hm, I found one |
| 17:43.40 | foxlit | Yes and yes? |
| 17:43.41 | Shirik | did the ps3 waste your money |
| 17:43.41 | airtonix | Shirik, the secret to DRm is to have your "citizens" love being controlled |
| 17:43.45 | amro | fu Shirik |
| 17:43.47 | amro | I was typing that |
| 17:43.48 | foxlit | Trollrik? :) |
| 17:44.05 | jnwhiteh | amro: https://github.com/jnwhiteh/golang-examples |
| 17:44.13 | jnwhiteh | if that helps, I just threw that together for you |
| 17:44.20 | mckenziemc | ~ps3 |
| 17:44.20 | purl | It's called the PS3 because you turn 3 pi radians and walk away. |
| 17:44.22 | airtonix | so it doesn't actually matter how crap it is, just that the users spout the dogma you create |
| 17:44.46 | amro | jnwhiteh: sweet, cloning |
| 17:44.48 | jnwhiteh | amro: in pkg/buffers you can run 'gotest' or 'gomake test' in order to run the unit tests. |
| 17:44.58 | airtonix | look at the bible during the dark ages.. its DRM was witch hunts |
| 17:45.01 | Shirik | ok I gott ago |
| 17:45.01 | Shirik | byes |
| 17:45.07 | amro | jnwhiteh: was going to ask about that, is there a way to make it always run the test? |
| 17:45.07 | amro | +s |
| 17:45.09 | jnwhiteh | the code isn't very idiomatic or.. smart but its a simple example of how you might structure a project and tie things together |
| 17:45.17 | jnwhiteh | amro: its a make target, you can do whatever you want =) |
| 17:45.25 | amro | make scares me :P |
| 17:45.36 | Shirik | mckenziemc: awesome |
| 17:45.37 | amro | I should dive into info make again |
| 17:45.39 | Shirik | btw |
| 17:47.14 | jnwhiteh | amro: just made a change that runs make -C pkg/buffers test install |
| 17:47.20 | jnwhiteh | if the tests fail, the install never happens and everything stops |
| 17:47.25 | jnwhiteh | if it passes, it installs and continues |
| 17:48.53 | jnwhiteh | the library provides a 'ByteBuffer' type that has four functions: Write(p []byte); WriteString(s string); GetBytes() (p []byte); and GetString()(s string) |
| 17:49.08 | jnwhiteh | just a very stupid expanding byte/string buffer that uses bytes on the backend |
| 17:49.50 | amro | jnwhiteh: hm, I don't seem to have 'gomake' |
| 17:49.58 | jnwhiteh | if you run 'gomake' at the top-level, you can then run ./cmd/hello/hello and ./cmd/buffer/buffer |
| 17:49.59 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 17:50.00 | amro | and make all fails |
| 17:50.08 | jnwhiteh | it will |
| 17:50.13 | jnwhiteh | did you add the go install to your path? |
| 17:50.15 | amro | it's not in ~/bin with the rest of the go binaries |
| 17:50.16 | amro | yes |
| 17:50.17 | jnwhiteh | i.e. can you run 6g or 8g |
| 17:50.27 | jnwhiteh | oh, it shouldn't be in ~/bin |
| 17:50.30 | jnwhiteh | it should be in $GOROOT/bin |
| 17:50.36 | jnwhiteh | they all should =) |
| 17:50.36 | amro | ah, I didn't add that to path |
| 17:50.39 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 17:50.46 | jnwhiteh | did you specify a $GOBIN env variable when building? |
| 17:51.09 | amro | no, I think the ~/bin stuff is from the last time I installed it forever ago |
| 17:51.13 | amro | I'll cleanup and install again |
| 17:51.15 | jnwhiteh | yeah, remove that |
| 17:51.20 | jnwhiteh | nah should be fine |
| 17:51.31 | jnwhiteh | just go to the distro |
| 17:51.36 | jnwhiteh | and add that /bin to your path |
| 17:51.40 | jnwhiteh | then you'll have gomake |
| 17:51.48 | jnwhiteh | I personally leave $GOROOT always in my env |
| 17:51.58 | jnwhiteh | and then I can use 'make' instead, and can use it to get to $GOROOT/src and friends quickly |
| 17:52.05 | jnwhiteh | but its personal preference, I suspect =) |
| 17:52.35 | amro | yep I'm setting $GOROOT in .bashrc |
| 17:53.24 | amro | it all works now, thanks |
| 17:56.14 | jnwhiteh | that's how I'm structuring my most recent project |
| 17:56.27 | jnwhiteh | since I always have cmds to test the library, in addition to unit tests |
| 17:57.23 | amro | it makes more sense to have most of the logic in a package anyway, I'll be using this structure |
| 17:57.26 | jnwhiteh | the important thing to know is that the library is installed every time you run make on it. .this is by design. you _CAN_ use local import paths, such as "../../pkg/buffers" I think would work.. but the 'standard' way to do things is just to install the package and then use it |
| 17:57.50 | jnwhiteh | amro: that way you can manage what is exposed pretty easily |
| 17:59.49 | amro | jnwhiteh: do you have a .gitignore file with patterns for all the temp stuff from compilation? it's not in that repo |
| 17:59.57 | jnwhiteh | ah good point |
| 18:02.00 | jnwhiteh | pushed |
| 18:03.45 | amro | jnwhiteh: it gets the exported package name from TARG? I see that's where you have it set to jnwhiteh.net/buffers (the name you use to import) |
| 18:03.53 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 18:04.05 | jnwhiteh | that determines where in $GOROOT its installed, and how its imported |
| 18:04.19 | jnwhiteh | it could just be 'buffers' |
| 18:04.24 | jnwhiteh | but that's obviously not a good name :P |
| 18:04.31 | amro | yes it might clash here or there. |
| 18:04.40 | jnwhiteh | indeed, they have to be unique |
| 18:05.15 | amro | hm so the way this is setup if I understand, the package must be installed or it won't be able to resolve the name |
| 18:05.22 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 18:05.35 | jnwhiteh | you could change the import path to ../../pkg/buffers and I believe that would work |
| 18:05.36 | jnwhiteh | lemme test |
| 18:05.45 | amro | I like that better, no conflicts with out of date stuff |
| 18:05.55 | amro | by that I mean having to install |
| 18:05.58 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 18:06.47 | jnwhiteh | it could be import "../../pkg/buffers/_obj/jnwhiteh.net/buffers" |
| 18:06.54 | jnwhiteh | and it will work |
| 18:08.32 | jnwhiteh | the makefiles are intentionally tiny, they just import, set some vars and then run another makefile |
| 18:09.19 | amro | as they should |
| 18:09.23 | amro | automake is insanity itself |
| 18:09.27 | amro | well, autotools |
| 18:09.32 | jnwhiteh | no auto here |
| 18:09.35 | jnwhiteh | just straight makefiles |
| 18:09.35 | ccox | Why is it that whenever I see the item "subtle cogwheel", my immediate thought is "no he's not"? |
| 18:09.46 | jnwhiteh | that import based on environment variables |
| 18:09.48 | jnwhiteh | for different platforms |
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| 18:10.38 | amro | though I do miss cmake's prettified output |
| 18:11.59 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:12.27 | amro | what can I say, I've been spoiled :P altough go compiles so much faster it doesn't really matter |
| 18:12.52 | amro | takes me a few minutes to fully recompile my current C++ project |
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| 18:19.03 | amro | neat, I already had this in vimrc; au! Syntax go source /home/amro/.vim/syntax/go.vim |
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| 18:21.56 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 18:22.22 | jnwhiteh | I use pathogen with an update-bundles.rb script |
| 18:22.35 | jnwhiteh | I have a bunch of rules for go |
| 18:23.28 | jnwhiteh | amro: I just ran gofmt on my source, only one file didn't match style standards :p |
| 18:25.48 | amro | jnwhiteh: this? https://github.com/bronson/vim-update-bundles |
| 18:28.54 | cog|work | ccox: more like Fractured Cogwheel |
| 18:29.12 | ccox | yeah, that does seem more appropos. |
| 18:29.20 | amro | cog|work: any hope for Flashing Cogwheel? |
| 18:29.46 | cog|work | i could put a price on that... |
| 18:30.07 | ccox | and many of us would pay him NOT to! |
| 18:30.24 | ccox | (oh, wait, he might take that as a business plan!) |
| 18:30.42 | Fisker | i saw an Exploiting Cogwheel ccox |
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| 18:34.57 | cog|work | Fisker: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5793852&l=1cc27d1bdf&id=563064469 |
| 18:35.14 | Fisker | lol @ intel board |
| 18:35.21 | Fisker | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) at 5801MHz (68% Load) |
| 18:35.26 | Fisker | (fuck yeah) |
| 18:35.52 | Fisker | lol @ 2 sticks of ddr3 too |
| 18:36.18 | Fisker | lol @ maximum ePower |
| 18:36.34 | Fisker | that's actually hilarious |
| 18:36.55 | cog|work | u hurt mai feeleengs |
| 18:37.00 | cog|work | QQ |
| 18:37.12 | cog|work | (u kno ur jelus) |
| 18:37.19 | ccox | Hmmm, house is getting cold, time to start a render on this 32 core machine and warm it back up... |
| 18:37.25 | Fisker | i'll give them that the onboard skull is fucking cool though cog|work |
| 18:38.20 | ccox | <-- wonders just how the blixtex fits into the project |
| 18:40.16 | cog|work | better thermal characteristics than arctic silver imo |
| 18:40.18 | cog|work | <.< |
| 18:40.51 | ccox | I figured Intel wanted a kiss while they were, um, supplying you. |
| 18:41.28 | Fisker | blixtex? |
| 18:41.38 | Fisker | oh |
| 18:42.13 | cog|work | next year's goodie bags should have Blizztex lip balm. |
| 18:42.16 | Fisker | i think guys lip balm are so manly |
| 18:42.24 | Fisker | guys who use* |
| 18:42.57 | Fisker | smiles akwardly at cog|work |
| 18:44.05 | cog|work | i'm going to turn shadows up to full for my new CPU |
| 18:44.08 | cog|work | TAKE THAT |
| 18:44.24 | Fisker | i wouldn't turn them up to full |
| 18:44.41 | amro | you wouldn't steal a baby |
| 18:45.15 | Fisker | facebook eats babies |
| 18:45.32 | ccox | cog - that's more a function of the GPU than the CPU |
| 18:45.39 | Adys | you wouldn't steal a baby's helmet and then bring it to the baby's mother. |
| 18:45.51 | cog|work | don't think so |
| 18:46.21 | amro | ccox: it should be, doesn't mean that's how blizzard does it |
| 18:46.30 | ccox | true |
| 18:46.35 | Fisker | it feels like a hair is stuck in my throat |
| 18:46.40 | Fisker | which is annoying as hell |
| 18:47.07 | ccox | but it looks like shadow stencil buffers rendered from the light view on the GPU, plus a higher rez version rendered near the player position |
| 18:47.24 | ccox | the global rendering is done infrequently, the local is updated often |
| 18:47.35 | ccox | and the final combination of the stencils is all in the GPU |
| 18:48.07 | ccox | so from what I can see, I'd say it's minimally 80% GPU calc, probably 100% |
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| 18:53.25 | ccox | just get a 6870 or GTX580 to go with the new CPU hotness |
| 18:53.44 | cog|work | we just got radeon 4870s about a year ago |
| 18:53.56 | cog|work | (maybe a little longer) |
| 18:54.06 | ccox | oh, I moved my 4870 to my email machine |
| 18:55.27 | Fisker | gtx 580 should be pretty sick in dx11 |
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| 18:56.09 | cog|work | does wow still do poorly with SLI/crossfire? |
| 18:56.41 | cog|work | 'cause i could upgrade Mrs. cog's GPU and then put both our 4870s in mine (though that would probably need a new PSU too) |
| 18:57.30 | cog|work | and then we wouldn't need to run our heater at home |
| 18:59.52 | foxlit | /hate wow's handling of farclip |
| 19:00.02 | foxlit | You can see things further out of the edge of the viewport :( |
| 19:00.06 | |Jelly| | Dear Cog, I'm jealous of your FB picture. -Jelly |
| 19:00.13 | cog|work | <3 |
| 19:00.25 | Fisker | Radeon sucks cog|work |
| 19:00.33 | Fisker | and so does multi gpu |
| 19:00.35 | cog|work | you can exercise your jealousy by not taunting something off of me next time i steal aggro |
| 19:00.59 | cog|work | Fisker: 4870 was best bang for buck before the 460 came out |
| 19:03.05 | Seerah | cog|work: why is the blistex part of that picture? |
| 19:03.36 | |Jelly| | Also, love the keyboard. lol |
| 19:03.49 | ccox | Seerah: scroll back a little |
| 19:03.52 | Seerah | old school ;) |
| 19:04.21 | cog|work | Seerah: didn't crop it enough :P |
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| 19:05.10 | cog|work | awaits his check from Blistex Inc. |
| 19:05.14 | Seerah | heh - just curious if you were using that as thermal paste :p |
| 19:06.27 | Fisker | no ati/amd card was ever the best anything for anything cog|work |
| 19:06.27 | foxlit | "Shut up, Piggy, I have the conch!" << thank you, survivingtheworld! |
| 19:07.03 | Fisker | that's like saying a $1 hooker is a better bang for the buck than $100 hooker |
| 19:07.14 | Fisker | sure it might be cheaper, but you'll get std's |
| 19:08.51 | Stanzilla | foxlit: ever found the reason why opie is using so much memory sometimesà |
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| 19:10.52 | foxlit | Stanzilla: it's really not; it's just waiting for the next GC |
| 19:11.00 | foxlit | paranoia, mostly |
| 19:11.01 | |Jelly| | But I get 100 of them for the same price. |
| 19:11.08 | Stanzilla | mkay |
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| 19:33.20 | cremetorte | hi i got a question. i want to use something like an editbox. i use AceConfig-3.0 but all i could find was type = "input" . Problem is that i can only stretch the width of that input field but not the height, is there something like type="editbox" or something else? |
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| 19:49.25 | Seerah | cremetorte: multiline http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/#w-input |
| 19:52.20 | cremetorte | thank you it seems that i found an old docu where multiline is not mentioned |
| 19:52.36 | Seerah | where were you looking? |
| 19:53.26 | cremetorte | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 19:53.38 | Seerah | oh. yeah. that's the old wowace site ;) |
| 19:53.39 | cremetorte | ohh |
| 19:53.43 | cremetorte | but actually |
| 19:53.49 | cremetorte | i now see multiline there too ... |
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| 19:59.22 | cremetorte | can someone easily describe the difference of foo.bar and foo:bar ? i now that foo.bar is the same as foo[bar] right? but whats with foo:bar ...? |
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| 20:04.44 | cog|work | when defining a function, function foo:bar() ... end is equivalent to foo.bar = function(self) ... end |
| 20:05.01 | cog|work | when calling a function, foo:bar(5) is equivalent to foo.bar(foo, 5) |
| 20:05.30 | cog|work | http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html |
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| 20:09.02 | jnwhiteh | amro: Umm, something like that yes =) |
| 20:09.09 | jnwhiteh | I should post mine at some point |
| 20:10.25 | jnwhiteh | I'm off for now! |
| 20:11.28 | kd3 | wonders if he can make his archaeology macro any better |
| 20:11.30 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Archaeology#Solve_count_and_summary |
| 20:17.18 | Fisker | this is driving me nuts kd3 |
| 20:17.31 | kd3 | are you still refusing my advice to take two advil and call me in the morning? |
| 20:19.03 | Fisker | no |
| 20:19.05 | Fisker | or yes |
| 20:19.12 | Fisker | but it feels like i have a hair stuck in my throat |
| 20:19.43 | Adys | Cide1: stop failing |
| 20:19.46 | durcyn | take two cyande and call him never, then |
| 20:19.57 | Cide1 | I fail so hard |
| 20:19.58 | durcyn | or cyanide, your choice |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker | i think i can manage with only one cyanide pill durcyn |
| 20:20.31 | durcyn | no, better go with two |
| 20:20.31 | mckenziemc | kd3: yes you can make it better. Use an addon |
| 20:20.51 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 20:21.03 | kd3 | why add more bloat when what I need can be done in ~230 characters? |
| 20:21.05 | kd3 | ;) |
| 20:26.38 | foxlit | why bother at all? :) |
| 20:30.41 | Primer | Anyone know of an addon that cause the mailbox to 'close' (the sound is heard, but the dialog remains open), leaving the dialog unusable? |
| 20:31.15 | Primer | This is bugging me to no end |
| 20:32.57 | jnwhiteh | unlearning talents unlearns both sets, right? |
| 20:33.16 | Primer | no |
| 20:33.47 | jnwhiteh | oh, just one |
| 20:33.49 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 20:33.53 | Primer | yes |
| 20:34.26 | Primer | Don't make the mistake I did the other day. I unlearned both, the recreated in the wrong spec. Glyphs follow the spec |
| 20:34.33 | Primer | spec index, that is |
| 20:34.37 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:34.47 | Primer | s/the/then/ |
| 20:37.34 | Primer | Is there still no way to search the AH for "zephyrite" and not get "solid zephyrite"? |
| 20:38.08 | Cide1 | auctioneer |
| 20:38.17 | Primer | I have auctioneer |
| 20:38.29 | Cide1 | open search ui and click general |
| 20:38.37 | Cide1 | then use the exact match searcher |
| 20:39.38 | Primer | excellent, thanks |
| 20:39.44 | Primer | I should have known this |
| 20:41.05 | Gnarfoz | grml |
| 20:41.13 | Gnarfoz | Shartuul event still broken :< |
| 20:41.50 | Primer | isn't grml a debian based rescue disk? |
| 20:45.32 | Gnarfoz | yes, and it's german, too |
| 20:45.41 | Primer | ja? |
| 20:45.44 | Gnarfoz | (both grml and "grml", the expression, are, hence the name of the distro) |
| 20:45.49 | mikma | scheiße |
| 20:46.36 | Primer | Is nightstone the most expensive green quality gem on all realms? |
| 20:46.43 | Primer | I wonder if Blizz adjusts the drop rate |
| 20:47.01 | Cide1 | they probably adjust the gems :P |
| 20:47.16 | cremetorte | it is said that you can Set a Text in an input edit field in AceConfig with :SetText ... suppose i got this structure: http://nopaste.info/bda9086a44.html How can i then set Text from the input field :/ i cant find any example |
| 20:47.17 | Cide1 | or jewels rather |
| 20:48.01 | Primer | 70g each on mine |
| 20:48.08 | Primer | and I need it for JC dailies :/ |
| 20:49.02 | Cide1 | prospect imo |
| 20:49.39 | Primer | heh, I usually farm then prospect :) |
| 20:49.48 | Primer | which is why I have 2 stacks of carnelian |
| 20:54.26 | Primer | I don't get this auctioneer UI |
| 20:54.35 | Primer | it's too complicated |
| 20:54.40 | Cide1 | it is! |
| 20:54.53 | cremetorte | or does some know how to load some text into a input text field used with AceCOnfig ... |
| 20:55.25 | Primer | best deal is single ores |
| 20:55.36 | Cide1 | who the fuck puts up single ore on the ah |
| 20:55.39 | Primer | I want to buy all ore below a certain percentage |
| 20:55.40 | Cide1 | I hate everyone who does that |
| 20:55.45 | Primer | tons of people do |
| 20:55.49 | Cide1 | I know |
| 20:55.59 | Cide1 | I want to know who they are so I can punch them over tcp/ip |
| 20:56.33 | Primer | can't just sort by percentage and shift click a range, and buy? |
| 20:56.56 | mckenziemc | it didn't start till the AH change that let you batch post, though |
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| 21:01.05 | Primer | eh? that's been going on since I started playing wow |
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| 21:01.22 | zenzelezz | probably not on the same scale though |
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| 21:01.25 | zenzelezz | took more effort before |
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| 21:06.57 | Primer | woot, got a x6 proc on shadowspirit diamond |
| 21:07.03 | mckenziemc | o.O |
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| 21:07.28 | Primer | each transmute yields 2 by default |
| 21:07.34 | Primer | so effectively a x3 proc |
| 21:09.44 | zenzelezz | or a +4 proc, depending on how you look at it |
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| 21:18.19 | mckenziemc | Primer: wrt it going on since before, that made sense, albeit on a smaller scale as zenz said |
| 21:18.51 | Primer | in your opinion |
| 21:19.07 | Primer | I remember wading through pages and pages of single items before finding the stacks years ago |
| 21:19.19 | Primer | perhaps my realm is just more progressive than yours |
| 21:19.35 | mckenziemc | not my opinion |
| 21:19.40 | mckenziemc | market factors |
| 21:19.50 | mckenziemc | people are willing to pay more when not buying in bulk |
| 21:20.26 | sylvanaar_work | single stackers need to diaf |
| 21:20.48 | mckenziemc | only when it's in excess |
| 21:20.56 | sylvanaar_work | it always is |
| 21:20.58 | mckenziemc | there are times when you don't -want- to buy a whole stack |
| 21:21.17 | sylvanaar_work | yeah but not 10 pages of times |
| 21:21.31 | mckenziemc | true |
| 21:21.34 | foxlit | "mckenziemc: people are willing to pay more when not buying in bulk" << conversely, I'm willing to pay more for not having to click "buyout" 1k times |
| 21:21.50 | mckenziemc | foxlit: and that's what the stacks are for |
| 21:22.33 | foxlit | wait, what? |
| 21:22.34 | mckenziemc | it's most sensible for the market to contain multiple sizes -- at the minimum, single units and stacks |
| 21:23.02 | sylvanaar_work | honestly, people selling 1 cloth |
| 21:23.11 | sylvanaar_work | they need to diaf |
| 21:23.17 | foxlit | But mostly, I'm annoyed by the UI |
| 21:23.23 | foxlit | I'm also annoyed by people who undercut by 1c |
| 21:23.32 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 21:23.54 | mckenziemc | no difference from undercutting by 5%, aside from psychology |
| 21:25.48 | mckenziemc | not that i condone undercutting |
| 21:25.50 | foxlit | Clearly that's only true if you're selling things for 20s?' |
| 21:26.07 | foxlit | It'd be nice to require a larger commit from sellers. |
| 21:26.23 | mckenziemc | the value people put on undercutting is silly; your item doesn't have to be on the bottom to sell within its posting period |
| 21:26.33 | foxlit | So sitting there and relisting your stuff immediately after someone else posts auctions isn't as lucrative. |
| 21:26.42 | mckenziemc | (referring to the undercutter, not the undercutee) |
| 21:27.28 | mckenziemc | it's not lucrative though |
| 21:27.48 | mckenziemc | they lose the deposit cost every time (excluding items like enchant mats) |
| 21:28.40 | mckenziemc | if they'd just leave their item -up-, it might even sell before it expires, if not, they only loose the same amount they would if they canceled and reposted |
| 21:28.50 | mckenziemc | lose* |
| 21:31.09 | mckenziemc | i've yet to see an auction posting addon that's -not- coded around the assumption your item has to be on the bottom, however |
| 21:31.30 | mckenziemc | i'm thinking of playing around with a custom addon to post at, say, the 5th percentile |
| 21:31.48 | mckenziemc | and keep track of how well it works vs 0th percentile |
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| 21:38.21 | Xyphoid | jc dailies is why it's the expensive one, pretty much |
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| 21:40.52 | Primer | plus the fact that its drop rate seems lower |
| 21:40.58 | Primer | nightstone, that is |
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| 22:03.26 | DWSR | mckenziemc: Auctioneer can use other methods to value items. |
| 22:03.31 | DWSR | Besides just a straight undercut. |
| 22:03.44 | DWSR | Anyone for recommendations on a motherboard that's ~$150 USD? |
| 22:03.52 | DWSR | DDR3 compatible, please. |
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| 22:06.26 | Mirrormn | what's up in irc land |
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| 22:06.48 | DWSR | nothing, looking for a mobo for my rig. |
| 22:06.50 | DWSR | Time to upgrade. |
| 22:06.55 | Mirrormn | to sandy bridge? |
| 22:06.56 | DWSR | this thing is getting slow and I'm thinking of going slil |
| 22:06.58 | DWSR | SLI* |
| 22:07.23 | Maldivia | so not only DDR3 compatibly, but also SLI - any other requirements? |
| 22:07.36 | Tuller | i vote not sli! |
| 22:07.45 | Mirrormn | I've read good things about the 2500k |
| 22:07.48 | DWSR | Maldivia: SLI isn't strictly a requirement. |
| 22:07.57 | Kraps | i got really into mass effect again and i think it's depressing me |
| 22:07.58 | DWSR | I'm ok with just a solo card in the rig. |
| 22:08.43 | Maldivia | amd or intel cpu ? |
| 22:09.29 | DWSR | intel. |
| 22:09.35 | Maldivia | sandy bridge? ?:) |
| 22:09.46 | Mirrormn | sandy bridge for winning |
| 22:09.48 | DWSR | Don't know my bridges that well to tell you. |
| 22:09.54 | DWSR | Though, iirc, sandy's are ok. |
| 22:10.28 | Maldivia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) |
| 22:11.52 | DWSR | ntel themselves demonstrated an i7-2600K (where the "K" indicates the processor has an unlocked multiplier) running stably overclocked at 4.9Ghz on air cooling (Details not yet revealed). <--- Holy fuck. |
| 22:12.23 | DWSR | Anyway, sure. |
| 22:13.07 | DWSR | tbh, scrap the SLI. |
| 22:13.18 | DWSR | Only really going to play games that require 1 card. |
| 22:13.25 | DWSR | WoW, LoL, TF2, etc. |
| 22:13.37 | DWSR | Any suggestions, Maldivia? |
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| 22:13.51 | Kraps | i dont think SLI is ever "required" |
| 22:13.52 | Mirrormn | anandtech review indicated that the 2500k beats every gen1 core i7, even the 980x, in WoW |
| 22:14.09 | Mirrormn | and of course the 2600k is slightly better than that |
| 22:14.14 | Maldivia | hmm, to be honest, haven't really been paying too closely attention to mobos recently, so I won't beat me up for not waiting :P |
| 22:14.17 | Mirrormn | and that's without overclocking |
| 22:14.32 | Mirrormn | and from what I understand, they both overclock ridiculously |
| 22:14.34 | Mirrormn | and very easily |
| 22:14.38 | DWSR | Well, I'm not playing /just/ WoW on it. |
| 22:14.59 | DWSR | Also, I'm really not interested in spending ~$250 on a proc. |
| 22:15.39 | DWSR | I already know I'm putting a 1GB 460 in there. |
| 22:15.51 | Mirrormn | well if you start going sub-$200, I think amd starts becoming a better deal |
| 22:15.52 | Mirrormn | dunno |
| 22:16.05 | Mirrormn | oh I just got a 460 1gb |
| 22:16.09 | Mirrormn | I like it a lot |
| 22:16.12 | DWSR | from what I've read in the last year, Intel beats AMD every time. |
| 22:16.13 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 22:16.29 | Mirrormn | getting like 40fps in 25 man raid combat |
| 22:16.31 | Mirrormn | ftw |
| 22:16.36 | Dagmar | At what? Charging more? |
| 22:16.36 | DWSR | lol40. |
| 22:16.43 | DWSR | Dagmar: Do enlighten. |
| 22:17.20 | Mirrormn | well I mean, I get like 250 fps sitting out alone doing archaeology in badlands |
| 22:17.25 | Mirrormn | but that's not really important |
| 22:17.47 | Dagmar | Every time I see someone say that I go look up what the costs per benchmark are and they astonishingly always come out pretty damn close to equal when you're not saying "I WANT TO SPEND A TON OF MONEY AND GET TEH FAST" |
| 22:17.51 | DWSR | Anything past about 80. |
| 22:18.10 | DWSR | is a waste, Mirrormn |
| 22:18.18 | Dagmar | Their highest-end CPUs (both companies) get priced really high, but once they're out of the 'prestige' ranges, they balance right out |
| 22:18.34 | DWSR | Dagmar: Like I said, I'm not looking to spend a ton. |
| 22:18.40 | DWSR | Just want a decent upgrade from what I'm runnign now. |
| 22:18.57 | DWSR | Intel DC @ 1.8Ghz on a fucking miniATX ASUS and DDR2 @ 800Mhz. |
| 22:18.59 | Dagmar | I'd at least look into AMD since they seem to be managing to stick with AM3 just fine |
| 22:19.05 | DWSR | with a 9800GTX+ |
| 22:19.15 | Dagmar | At least it means you're not as likely to replace the motherboard for your next CPU upgrade |
| 22:19.25 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 22:19.29 | DWSR | The thing is that I'm sort of stuck. |
| 22:19.36 | DWSR | I can't just go and upgrade the ram or the proc or the gpu. |
| 22:19.44 | DWSR | I'm sort of maxed on the mobo. |
| 22:19.53 | Dagmar | Replacing motherboards gets old fast unless you *want* a lot of individual nodes around heating up the house |
| 22:20.18 | DWSR | Well, I'm thinking I might use the miniATX board for the basis of an HTPC, but hey. |
| 22:20.23 | Dagmar | If the failures didn't make a mess of data and life generally hell, I'd change my stance on overclocking |
| 22:20.30 | mckenziemc | DWSR: it doesn't work for posting though |
| 22:20.35 | Dagmar | The stuff I've overclocked eventually dies. |
| 22:20.52 | DWSR | It all eventually dies. |
| 22:20.54 | Dagmar | The stuff I run to manufacturer's spec, well... I've still got a working 5x86 133Mhz CPU here |
| 22:20.56 | DWSR | It's just a question of when. |
| 22:21.02 | DWSR | lol |
| 22:21.08 | Dagmar | It just runs and runs and runs until I'm sick of putting power into it. |
| 22:21.13 | DWSR | I had a working 485Mhz P2. |
| 22:21.18 | DWSR | Until last year. |
| 22:21.24 | mckenziemc | i mean 5th percentile of the posted items (with some fuzzy math), not a fixed value from the 5th percentile of all seen items |
| 22:21.26 | Dagmar | One non-overclocked CPU failure, eight overlocked CPU failures |
| 22:21.46 | Dagmar | That's outta like forty machines over hte past 15 years |
| 22:22.45 | DWSR | btw. |
| 22:22.51 | DWSR | should I go CPU->Mobo or Mobo->CPU? |
| 22:22.54 | DWSR | For buy order? |
| 22:25.43 | Mirrormn | same time? |
| 22:25.47 | DWSR | Well. |
| 22:25.53 | DWSR | Decision-making wise. |
| 22:26.01 | Mirrormn | cpu first |
| 22:29.28 | DWSR | http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727 <--- Something like thiS? |
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| 22:34.38 | Gagorian | Bulldozer won't be compatible with AM3 socket |
| 22:34.56 | Gagorian | So you might as well go with a Core i5-2500K and LGA1155 |
| 22:36.54 | DWSR | Bulldozer? |
| 22:38.46 | DWSR | nvm. |
| 22:38.52 | DWSR | 32nm |
| 22:40.30 | Gagorian | Yeah, it'll require AM3+ motherboards |
| 22:41.09 | Gagorian | So at least, the choice to go AMD shouldn't be based on the ability to upgrade later |
| 22:41.54 | Gagorian | Core i5-2500K seems like the best bang for buck at the moment in the mainstream category |
| 22:42.04 | Pneumatus | plus amd makes the baby jesus cry |
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| 22:47.20 | |Jelly| | tackle-hugs Seerah |
| 22:47.28 | Seerah | hugs |Jelly| |
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| 22:54.32 | Gagorian | But if your budget is less than that, the processor you suggested is a good choice |
| 22:59.54 | Primer | uhhh have BOA head enchants changed? |
| 23:00.09 | Pneumatus | BoA head enchants are trollface.jpg |
| 23:00.21 | Primer | Because I just bought the str BOA head enchant on my druid and sent it to my DK, and the game's telling me I can't use it |
| 23:00.30 | Pneumatus | you can mail them around but you still need the rep to apply them |
| 23:00.38 | DWSR | ^ |
| 23:01.04 | Pneumatus | until they fix it, if they even do |
| 23:01.20 | Pneumatus | pointless for them to be BoA otherwise though |
| 23:01.34 | Pneumatus | unless you're worried about saving the 10g or whatever from revered->exalted discount |
| 23:02.24 | Xyphoid | and a lot of people place more value on selling the item today over getting the maximum price for it |
| 23:02.53 | Primer | Ok, wait |
| 23:03.12 | Primer | I'm 100% positive I've bought them on a toon with rep, and sent them and used them on a toon without rep |
| 23:03.24 | Xyphoid | well, za/qa has fallback stuff |
| 23:03.24 | Xyphoid | where you say 'i'll go down to 50g, if it's lower than that i'll post at 250g' |
| 23:03.36 | Pneumatus | the old LK ones worked that way, Primer |
| 23:03.41 | Pneumatus | but the new cata ones are broken |
| 23:03.57 | Primer | WTF |
| 23:04.24 | Primer | I'm pretty sure I've done this in Cata |
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| 23:05.24 | Xyphoid | isn't auctioneer all about calculating market prices to determine what to post at? |
| 23:07.11 | Primer | so it's been pure coincidence that my toons have had the rep to use the items in Cata |
| 23:07.22 | Pneumatus | most probably, yes |
| 23:07.26 | Primer | despite having bought them on other toons and sent them |
| 23:07.27 | Primer | wow |
| 23:07.31 | Primer | this is such fail |
| 23:07.40 | Pneumatus | was the other char you did it with a caster? |
| 23:07.46 | Primer | yes |
| 23:07.49 | Pneumatus | as you get revered with guardians of hyjal just from doing the zone |
| 23:07.53 | Primer | yup |
| 23:07.59 | Primer | I completely bypassed Vaj |
| 23:08.01 | Primer | hated that place |
| 23:08.19 | Pneumatus | yeh, just fluke you happened to do it with a char that was already revered then |
| 23:08.36 | Primer | So is this an issue? |
| 23:08.48 | Primer | Does Blizz acknowledge it's broken? |
| 23:08.56 | Primer | Or is this "by design"? |
| 23:09.14 | Ackis | any mods out there that let me assign a stat weighting to gear so I can compare a single number? |
| 23:09.30 | Pneumatus | no idea, but it doesn't make sense if it is by design as if you have the rep to apply it you might as well buy it yourself |
| 23:09.32 | Cide1 | what is Vaj |
| 23:09.34 | Pneumatus | making being BoA pointless |
| 23:09.49 | Pneumatus | Ackis: the ilevel :P |
| 23:10.15 | Ackis | Pneumatus: I don't want to dumb it down to that level :P just want to make it easier for me to compare crit/haste/master for shadow/holy |
| 23:10.18 | Primer | rather pointless, yes |
| 23:10.27 | DWSR | Ackis: Pawn. |
| 23:10.40 | Ackis | maybe something that's smart enough for me to say "I want X% of stat Y after that it's useless" |
| 23:10.44 | DWSR | Pawn. |
| 23:11.14 | foxlit | Ackis: the next level is "maybe something that's smart enough to figure out that if I would reforge half my current gear, this piece is a 0.0001% improvement!" |
| 23:11.33 | Pneumatus | yeh, Pawn does stat weightings |
| 23:11.39 | Pneumatus | which boils down to a single number |
| 23:11.55 | foxlit | Closely followed by "If I were to get this, and spend my justice/valor/honor/stuff on other stuff, it'd be an upgrade!" |
| 23:11.57 | Ackis | foxlit: I don't think it's that level, aka master is useless for me in shadow but nice in holy |
| 23:13.21 | DWSR | Ackis: You want Pawn, trust me. |
| 23:13.37 | DWSR | The built-in presets are also correct according to EJ, so it's OOB ready. |
| 23:13.54 | Ackis | DWSR: yeah I'm already installed it after you mentioned it relogging for it now |
| 23:21.06 | Ackis | DWSR: the values for priests are weird in that addon, gonna manually change them though |
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| 23:30.26 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/2800165183 |
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| 23:34.42 | Kraps | looooooooooooooooooooooool http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-xbox-isn-t-a-gaming-console-191851.phtml |
| 23:37.47 | Maldivia | Adys: like the previous previous one better :P |
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| 23:39.08 | Adys | Maldivia: aye :P |
| 23:42.17 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1rZqw5bXb4 |
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