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| 00:37.39 | foxlit | Hm, what's with Divine Plea? |
| 00:37.47 | foxlit | 10% of mana over 15 sec sounds lame |
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| 00:38.57 | cbreak | mage armor gives 3% mana over 5 seconds |
| 00:40.06 | cbreak | which is always on |
| 00:42.33 | karl_w_w | yeah because mage == paladin in every other way |
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| 00:47.14 | foxlit | It just strikes me as weird. Maybe I'm missing a talent/glyph; it seems like there's no reason you'd take the -50% healing done penalty for 10% mana |
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| 00:48.40 | karl_w_w | you can glyph it for +5% |
| 00:49.50 | karl_w_w | plus a bit more if you use it during hymn of hope |
| 00:50.06 | cbreak | the mage thing can be glyphed for +20% |
| 00:50.07 | karl_w_w | basically if ur oom 50% healing is better than 0% |
| 00:50.16 | cbreak | (from 3% to 3.6% I guess) |
| 00:50.35 | foxlit | do mages actually use mage armor? |
| 00:50.40 | cbreak | all arcane mages do |
| 00:50.46 | cbreak | maybe you still find some |
| 00:50.50 | cbreak | and some frost |
| 00:50.56 | cbreak | (depending on fight length) |
| 00:50.59 | karl_w_w | yeah sometimes in frost |
| 00:51.07 | karl_w_w | and always in pvp |
| 00:51.30 | cbreak | I switch between molten and mage in frost (with molten glyphed) |
| 00:51.38 | cbreak | and permanently mage in arcane |
| 00:51.59 | karl_w_w | im lucky, i got the nelf archy trinket so i dont need to use mage in frost :P |
| 00:52.22 | cbreak | archeology is such a pain to level |
| 00:52.51 | karl_w_w | its even more of a pain when you finish levelling |
| 00:52.58 | foxlit | ^ |
| 00:59.04 | Kraps | Mind Blast damage has been significantly increased. It should be roughly 50% greater than Mind Spike. hottttttt |
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| 02:19.29 | karl_w_w | nvm wowpedia to the rescue |
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| 02:43.56 | mckenziemc | i don't know where to ask this so i might as well try here: when executing a .cmd script on windows, and when one script calls another script, does the interpreter terminate as soon as it sees the 2nd script's EOL, instead of returning to finish the first script? |
| 02:44.30 | mckenziemc | i'm having issues with the second part of my 'outer' script failing sometimes but not always |
| 02:45.41 | Wobin | foxlit: are you trying to compare a pure dps's mana regen talent with a healing one? |
| 02:49.41 | foxlit | Wobin: am I? |
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| 02:51.02 | Wobin | oh cbreak was |
| 02:51.24 | Wobin | as for why, it's basically the only on demand mana regen talent a holy pally has |
| 02:52.29 | foxlit | (a) It's not a talent |
| 02:53.01 | foxlit | (b) I'm surprised it's so weak and has a debuff component. |
| 02:53.01 | karl_w_w | pretty sure it always comes back mckenziemc |
| 02:53.34 | Wobin | fine =P |
| 02:53.35 | Wobin | spell |
| 02:53.50 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: apparently not : // |
| 02:53.52 | mckenziemc | : / * |
| 02:53.57 | Wobin | holy pally is pretty mana efficient anyway |
| 02:54.03 | mckenziemc | i tried it with generic scripts and i'm getting the same issue |
| 02:55.32 | mckenziemc | omitting newlines, outer.cmd: 'echo a inner.cmd echo c pause' inner.cmd: 'echo b pause' only pauses once and doesn't print c |
| 02:56.28 | mckenziemc | which is really dumb, but considering it's Microsoft, i'm not surprised |
| 02:59.27 | Gnarfoz | you also might consider using their scripting language that is not from the 1990's. |
| 02:59.46 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. install PowerShell and use its scripting) |
| 03:00.16 | karl_w_w | what |
| 03:00.21 | karl_w_w | thats cause its pausing |
| 03:01.17 | mckenziemc | karl: no, because it should continue, print c, then pause again. it doesn't |
| 03:01.46 | mckenziemc | ~wiki bash |
| 03:02.32 | mckenziemc | Gnarfoz: ^ a shell from the 90s that works |
| 03:02.43 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: your point? |
| 03:02.53 | Gnarfoz | install cygwin, then |
| 03:03.30 | mckenziemc | i shouldn't have to use a non-standard shell to get expected functionality |
| 03:03.34 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 03:03.36 | Gnarfoz | PS is standard. |
| 03:03.53 | mckenziemc | for admin stuff |
| 03:04.03 | Gnarfoz | err? |
| 03:04.11 | Gnarfoz | since when do "users" script anything? |
| 03:04.44 | Gnarfoz | useless distinction. you're using the old stuff when you could be using the current stuff (regardless of the fact that the old stuff should be able to do this, too) |
| 03:04.59 | mckenziemc | this isn't an issue with the 'scripting' solely, it's an issue with the 'using' |
| 03:05.06 | mckenziemc | this isn't 'old' |
| 03:05.10 | Gnarfoz | yes it is?! |
| 03:05.11 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 03:05.18 | Gnarfoz | it's NT! NT is old |
| 03:06.04 | Gnarfoz | anyway |
| 03:06.07 | Gnarfoz | there's "start xyz" |
| 03:06.12 | Gnarfoz | but that does the opposite of what you want |
| 03:06.25 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 03:06.27 | Gnarfoz | so I'd assume that without using start, it should do exactly what you want |
| 03:06.42 | Gnarfoz | it works for programs |
| 03:06.52 | Gnarfoz | not sure why it wouldn't work for other scripts :o |
| 03:07.50 | mckenziemc | because the interpreter chokes on the end of a script, apperently :( |
| 03:10.01 | mckenziemc | anyway, has cmd.exe been officially deprecated? |
| 03:16.29 | Gnarfoz | PS is present as default on Server 2k8 R2, at least |
| 03:16.55 | Gnarfoz | not on win7, because, as I said above, not many consumers do much scripting |
| 03:17.50 | airtonix | hoho |
| 03:17.59 | airtonix | then give an example of what is "new" |
| 03:18.06 | airtonix | i smell shiny car smell syndrome |
| 03:18.13 | Gnarfoz | airtonix: huh? |
| 03:18.17 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 03:18.28 | Gnarfoz | are you 11 or something oO |
| 03:18.36 | airtonix | hoho |
| 03:18.46 | Gnarfoz | apparently |
| 03:19.35 | airtonix | so you going to give an example? |
| 03:20.07 | Gnarfoz | just read scrollback, I was talking about one specific thing? |
| 03:20.26 | airtonix | still waiting for a distinction between old & new |
| 03:20.28 | Gnarfoz | what other example do you want for a "old thing, new thing" situation? |
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| 03:23.03 | airtonix | ah well i guess you can't give one then. no matter |
| 03:23.40 | Gnarfoz | yes, your weird trollery is indeed no matter |
| 03:24.15 | Gnarfoz | the distinction *is* the age of either piece of software, that's all there's to it |
| 03:24.25 | airtonix | not really |
| 03:24.30 | airtonix | i asked for code examples |
| 03:24.37 | Gnarfoz | err what |
| 03:24.55 | Gnarfoz | why would I lecture you about syntax differences between NT command processor and PowerShell? |
| 03:25.07 | Gnarfoz | (not that I actually could, in a meaningful way) |
| 03:25.12 | mckenziemc | why should the age say that it's 'okay' for something to be broken? |
| 03:25.13 | airtonix | to demonstrate why the "new" way is so revered |
| 03:25.28 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: it doesn't, I didn't want to imply that |
| 03:25.36 | Gnarfoz | airtonix: revered? I said it's newer, that's all. |
| 03:25.46 | mckenziemc | you told me i should be using the newer version |
| 03:25.46 | airtonix | thats definitely the impression i got |
| 03:26.09 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: well, why wouldn't you, regardless of if the old one works or not |
| 03:26.26 | Gnarfoz | ok, I guess it might not be available or something |
| 03:27.15 | mckenziemc | because i'm not doing system administration. i'm not familiar with PowerShell so i could be off regarding what it actually does, but i've a feeling it'd be grossly overqualified for my task |
| 03:27.46 | mckenziemc | plus portability is a preferred feature, though not necessary |
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| 03:27.52 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: i think theres a specific way for calling other batch files from inside a batch file |
| 03:28.33 | mckenziemc | the context here makes that undesirable |
| 03:28.44 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: it's "call", actually |
| 03:29.04 | mckenziemc | i had a 'utility' script that's meant to work with -any- program, and found that if i had it work with another script, it breaks |
| 03:29.05 | Gnarfoz | thanks to Arrowmaster for pointing out the... well, not obvious, but intuitive |
| 03:29.19 | mckenziemc | Gnarfoz: call is intra-file i believe |
| 03:29.26 | Gnarfoz | hm? no, it works for me |
| 03:29.30 | Gnarfoz | (your example does) |
| 03:29.48 | mckenziemc | and that doesn't work for my general problem anyway |
| 03:29.55 | Gnarfoz | I've now got outer.cmd 'echo outer \ call inner \ echo done' and inner.cmd 'echo inner' |
| 03:29.59 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: As to your original question (because the rest of all this was crap), yes. Microsoft's scripts don't really call each other the way a unix user would expect |
| 03:30.02 | Gnarfoz | and I get "outer inner done" |
| 03:30.38 | Dagmar | Personally, I think you were on the right track with bash |
| 03:31.01 | mckenziemc | i shouldn't have a 'program' that happens to break when it's run against a script, a) that's obscure, and b) it's silly to have to do a kludge to fix it (not sure if i even will be able to, actually) |
| 03:31.20 | mckenziemc | the scripts aren't in the same place; they aren't intended to be tied together |
| 03:31.26 | Arrowmaster | http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/batch.mspx?mfr=true |
| 03:31.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah call is the correct one |
| 03:32.00 | Arrowmaster | and yes its silly that you need to run other batch scripts differently than executables |
| 03:32.29 | Gnarfoz | http://pastebin.com/brWZszT7 :o |
| 03:32.37 | Gnarfoz | I concur :F |
| 03:33.47 | Gnarfoz | also, hooray for mis-ordering licenses, argh |
| 03:33.58 | mckenziemc | in vivo, the inner script could be anywhere on path. is there anything i can use to point call to it, other than doing a manual search? |
| 03:34.15 | mckenziemc | path, as in the environment variable |
| 03:35.09 | mckenziemc | hmm maybe call will work with real programs, i'll check |
| 03:35.34 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 03:35.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I wanted to suggest that, but the docs say nothing about it |
| 03:35.38 | mckenziemc | yeah, that'll work. silly but it will suffice : / |
| 03:35.45 | mckenziemc | call dir worked from a command prompt |
| 03:35.56 | Gnarfoz | that's silly indeed |
| 03:36.30 | mckenziemc | so as long as it follows the normal working directory/path lookup, it looks like it'll work |
| 03:45.13 | mckenziemc | facepalms. |
| 03:45.24 | mckenziemc | it works, as long as the inner script doesn't call exit |
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| 04:06.48 | mckenziemc | what timezone is BRT? |
| 04:07.10 | mckenziemc | my offline copy of the lua reference manual lists that in the timestamp |
| 04:08.19 | foxlit | the answer is three googled words away |
| 04:08.24 | Ackis | anyway to make the launcher stop "applying critical patches" everytime I load it up? |
| 04:08.33 | foxlit | non-? |
| 04:08.38 | kd3 | let it finish applying them? |
| 04:09.14 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: brazil |
| 04:09.19 | mckenziemc | thanks |
| 04:09.30 | mckenziemc | foxlit: google wasn't showing anything sensible : / |
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| 04:09.45 | Ackis | kd3: it does it everytime I load the launcher |
| 04:09.47 | foxlit | ~google brt time zone |
| 04:10.12 | airtonix | hoho |
| 04:10.19 | mckenziemc | ah, i didn't put 'time zone' in |
| 04:10.20 | kd3 | not here. I just leave it up if it does that and go make a sammich or something, when I come back, it's done and I don't see it until the next patch |
| 04:11.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 0. |
| 04:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | whoops, disregard |
| 04:11.56 | mckenziemc | so that'd be 7 googled words, because of the others i tried : p |
| 04:16.23 | airtonix | i'm not that type of guy mckenziemc |
| 04:18.34 | mckenziemc | shrugs |
| 04:19.22 | Gnarfoz | VPN is the devil |
| 04:19.28 | Gnarfoz | why the hell am I working at 5:20am |
| 04:19.38 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 04:19.49 | airtonix | because you're addicted to start buttons |
| 04:20.10 | Gnarfoz | bash, currently :F |
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| 04:33.58 | Primer | bashes Gnarfoz |
| 04:34.20 | Primer | exec's sqlplus in Gnarfoz's bash |
| 04:34.55 | Gnarfoz | Primer: it's already running anyway! |
| 04:36.59 | Primer | Does sqlplus still not have readline and history? |
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| 04:39.46 | Gnarfoz | Primer: neither |
| 04:40.05 | Primer | I've always wondered how they've gotten away with that for so long |
| 04:40.17 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea |
| 04:40.37 | Gnarfoz | but I like that I can specify 'rebalance power' from 0 to 11 |
| 04:49.27 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 04:49.31 | Gnarfoz | toad for oracle |
| 04:49.32 | Gnarfoz | -..- |
| 04:56.47 | Primer | I always used tora |
| 04:56.54 | Primer | since it was freeware |
| 04:56.58 | Primer | and ran on Linux |
| 05:01.34 | karl_w_w | blizzard have the best errors |
| 05:02.35 | karl_w_w | 500 Internal Server Error The server is prone to explode, so use with caution. |
| 05:02.52 | Gnarfoz | whee... adding storage at 6am on a sunday |
| 05:03.10 | Gnarfoz | I'm probably out of my mind |
| 05:03.10 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 05:13.53 | dusf | around what date would devs have started uploading mods to curse etc for use with cata? |
| 05:15.42 | dusf | considering there was a beta release prior to december 9 |
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| 05:16.51 | mckenziemc1 | i think addon functionality was enabled early september |
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| 05:46.14 | |Jelly| | So .. anyone have any ideas on how to get back into my account if my phone crashed, taking my authenticator with it? I have the serial from when I attached it. |
| 05:48.02 | bluspacecow | call billing ? |
| 05:48.23 | |Jelly| | They open at 10pm? |
| 05:49.14 | Wobin | can you run through the account id process thingie? |
| 05:49.20 | Wobin | I vaugely recall there was one |
| 05:49.27 | |Jelly| | The wha? |
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| 05:53.54 | bluspacecow | ....... |
| 05:56.14 | Gnarfoz | couldn't you feed other authenticators a serial and just log in? |
| 05:56.20 | Gnarfoz | FlexAuth etc |
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| 06:00.46 | |Jelly| | Both that and a windows based authenticator ask for a 40-digit 'secret key' |
| 06:01.37 | Gnarfoz | hurm |
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| 06:26.28 | bleeter | wut |
| 06:32.22 | Ackis | wut wut in da butt |
| 06:34.43 | Gnarfoz | yay +10TB |
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| 06:59.22 | dusf | does anyone know how i create a filter that will pipe all text from addons like auctioneer or lootfilter into a new window i've created? |
| 07:00.31 | Arrowmaster | you would have to edit each addon |
| 07:00.36 | Corrodias2 | i dreamed about playing WoW last night. i think it has as important a place in my memory as a "way of life" as school schedules did, because the only other recurring dream theme i can think of off-hand is not knowing when my classes are (although i always did). |
| 07:10.08 | airtonix | i didn't |
| 07:12.17 | Adys_ | ~seen Maldivia |
| 07:12.18 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1d 11h 21m 6s, last said: 'Adys: ok :P'. |
| 07:18.21 | dusf | Arrowmaster: thought i did it before for auctioneer without doing so |
| 07:18.54 | Arrowmaster | depending on the addon it might have a way to control the chatwindow that messages are output to |
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| 07:19.58 | Kraps | http://www.dorkly.com/article/8858/mass-effect-relationship-troubles |
| 07:20.17 | bluspacecow | do all addons output to the same standard output thingy tho ? |
| 07:20.41 | dusf | bluspacecow: i am unsure |
| 07:21.03 | bluspacecow | thanks dusf but i was asking Arrow >_> |
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| 07:39.23 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: no |
| 07:39.56 | bluspacecow | so you would have to redirect multiple outputs to the same chat window then ? |
| 07:40.28 | Arrowmaster | you would have to go in and change the code in each addon to output exactly where you want it to go |
| 07:40.37 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:40.42 | bluspacecow | phewy |
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| 07:58.58 | dusf | mik's scrolling combat text is a beautiful addon |
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| 08:13.04 | Fisker | slaps Blu|Shower around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:13.12 | Fisker | i wanna shower with you |
| 08:13.17 | Blu|Shower | lolz |
| 08:13.37 | Blu|Shower | i'm still waiting on the bathroom being free ;_: |
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| 08:16.32 | Fisker | i'm sick Blu|Shower |
| 08:23.49 | Blu|Shower | you're always sick fisker |
| 08:24.04 | airtonix | sick in the head |
| 08:24.17 | Blu|Clean | insane in the membrane |
| 08:24.30 | airtonix | no, i don't smoke drugs |
| 08:38.15 | Fisker | noo airtonix :( |
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| 09:01.04 | Fisker | Blu|Clean |
| 09:01.11 | Blu|Clean | yarrr |
| 09:01.42 | Fisker | i can't be stopped |
| 09:02.29 | Primer | damn, we've had 4 separate people's WoW crash in BoT tonight |
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| 09:31.51 | airtonix | hello fisker |
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| 09:37.11 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:38.39 | airtonix | indeed |
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| 09:40.33 | airtonix | Fisker, I have set in motion _the_ most ambitious plan this century. |
| 09:40.41 | Fisker | ok airtonix |
| 09:41.07 | airtonix | It will improve the quality of life for everyone in the first world |
| 09:41.18 | Fisker | i will kill you |
| 09:41.19 | Fisker | for free |
| 09:41.27 | airtonix | oh hoho |
| 09:41.31 | airtonix | nono my child |
| 09:42.25 | airtonix | March 19th, 9.15am Copenhagen Central Airport : Neutralise Fisker |
| 09:42.52 | airtonix | March 19th, 9.30am Copenhagen Federal Cemetery : Bury Fisker |
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| 09:57.31 | airtonix | Fisker, I'm not the type of megalomaniac that would leave your body on the side of the highway |
| 09:57.52 | airtonix | Plus you get a free high class funeral |
| 09:58.40 | Elkano | airtonix, in 15min from airport to cemetery? don't underestimate the traffic... |
| 09:58.56 | airtonix | I have it under control |
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| 10:00.44 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 10:01.26 | airtonix | Greetings Citizen |
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| 10:02.50 | Angayelle | i got fed up leaving lfg queue without a warning when accepting group invites, now trying to hook the function which accept invit in the invite popup |
| 10:03.56 | Angayelle | when i do a : /dump StaticPopup1Button1:GetScript("OnClick") on the accept button it returns [1]=<function> |
| 10:04.24 | Angayelle | which means there is a function within a table, if i'm right |
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| 10:04.55 | electronicmaji | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:04.58 | Angayelle | now i don't know the name of the table so i could replace/modify it |
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| 10:05.49 | Arrowmaster | Angayelle: no it means the GetScript is returning a function |
| 10:06.12 | Arrowmaster | because thats exactly what GetScript does, it can only return nil or a function |
| 10:07.43 | electronicmaji | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.43 | electronicmaji | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:07.46 | electronicmaji | BORING |
| 10:07.53 | electronicmaji | time to auction some of the herbs i botted |
| 10:07.54 | airtonix | then bugger off |
| 10:08.10 | airtonix | i'll exterminate fisker myself |
| 10:08.14 | electronicmaji | http://www.mangafox.com/manga/itoshi_no_kana/v01/c001/ |
| 10:08.23 | Arrowmaster | you are just asking to be banned |
| 10:08.30 | electronicmaji | ghost blowjob wooo wooo |
| 10:08.32 | electronicmaji | by who? |
| 10:08.54 | electronicmaji | you little girl? |
| 10:09.09 | electronicmaji | How about I buy a training bra for you im sure it will feel good on your budding bossoms |
| 10:09.36 | airtonix | Fisker, i changed my mind |
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| 10:10.30 | airtonix | Fisker, i'm going to hire you help me retire electronicmaji |
| 10:10.41 | airtonix | replans his agenda for March |
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| 10:13.18 | electronicmaji | prepares a glock semi automatic with hollow points, placing it in his pants. He then takes a ar-15 and places a cartridge in it, swinging it around his back. He grabs another 2 cartridges and places them in his pocket along with a grenade. He finally grabs a small semi automatic and some clips for it, pointing it at airtonix. |
| 10:13.22 | electronicmaji | Are you looking at me? |
| 10:13.56 | KarlKFI | who are you? neo? |
| 10:14.02 | electronicmaji | No. |
| 10:14.08 | electronicmaji | I just play one on tv. |
| 10:15.09 | electronicmaji | shoots KarlKFI in the head and turns around quickly shooting Sesshu before dropping the semi and rolling on his back around the corner grabbing his ar-15 as he does preparing the scope. |
| 10:15.25 | airtonix | Back in reality... |
| 10:15.27 | Sesshu | what? |
| 10:15.34 | KarlKFI | ~whaleparry electronicmaji |
| 10:15.34 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry electronicmaji's attacks. |
| 10:15.39 | electronicmaji | shoots at airtonix from the safety of cover, tagging him twice in the leg before turning to fisker and shooting him in the head. |
| 10:16.08 | electronicmaji | pulls the grenade from his pocket and bakes it, throwing it straight at airtonix's head where it explodes. |
| 10:16.20 | Arrowmaster | dolby: remove this trash |
| 10:16.47 | electronicmaji | I am not trash |
| 10:17.06 | electronicmaji | pulls out the glock and walks towards arrowmaster while pulling the trigger. |
| 10:17.11 | electronicmaji | I am....the one. |
| 10:17.22 | electronicmaji | places sunglasses on his face. |
| 10:17.24 | electronicmaji | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 10:17.51 | airtonix | Hoho, he's like the aspy from aces high 2 |
| 10:21.49 | airtonix | no no not aces high, smoken aces 2 |
| 10:22.18 | airtonix | or was it 1 |
| 10:25.06 | airtonix | yeah aha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkD1EY99YgQ |
| 10:27.18 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:27.19 | airtonix | Fisker, this should pose no significant problems. |
| 10:29.50 | Fisker | i'm sick airtonix |
| 10:30.06 | airtonix | Fisker, i find a health workout does wonders |
| 10:30.11 | airtonix | healthy |
| 10:30.43 | airtonix | go down to the beach and swim a few kilometres |
| 10:30.57 | airtonix | get some vitamin d up ya |
| 10:31.25 | airtonix | Fisker, can you swim ? |
| 10:32.43 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.40 | airtonix | go and take a swim in some un-chlorinated water ie : the sea |
| 10:35.28 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 10:37.39 | airtonix | you should |
| 10:37.49 | airtonix | salt water and sunshine |
| 10:37.58 | airtonix | stuff of miracles |
| 10:39.16 | electronicmaji | :O |
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| 10:42.16 | FlexHome | Hey guys, I've spent last half an hour looking for a function/change/whatever to get the Wild Mushroom count, short of monitoring the spellcast_success, is there such? |
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| 10:43.27 | airtonix | make the question easier to digest |
| 10:43.37 | airtonix | give us the facts |
| 10:43.42 | airtonix | keep it short |
| 10:45.55 | FlexHome | The default interface lists the number of Wild Mushrooms that are active, and their expiration time. I want to get that too, but there is no GetMushroomCount or similar. |
| 10:50.11 | electronicmaji | http://0.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/2232/01-004.0/compressed/kana095.jpg |
| 10:50.16 | electronicmaji | you will never have a girlfriend like this |
| 10:50.18 | electronicmaji | :( |
| 10:51.47 | karl_w_w | that's because she's drawn with a pen |
| 10:52.16 | electronicmaji | shes a ghost |
| 10:55.45 | Arrowmaster | oh god your in other channels on other networks too me with |
| 10:57.27 | electronicmaji | arrowmaster |
| 10:57.28 | electronicmaji | what network |
| 10:57.30 | electronicmaji | rizon |
| 10:59.47 | Torhal_ | Foof |
| 10:59.48 | airtonix | it's an unfortunate state of affairs, I admit |
| 11:00.09 | Torhal | stabs electronicmaji with an airtonix. |
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| 11:00.34 | airtonix | i am not an actuator |
| 11:00.48 | airtonix | i mealy facilitate from afar |
| 11:01.20 | Fisker | hello airtonix |
| 11:01.31 | airtonix | Greetings thx1138 |
| 11:01.49 | Torhal | Fisker, do not attempt to use airtonix as a laxative. |
| 11:02.18 | airtonix | i'm not FDA approved |
| 11:04.00 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 11:06.18 | airtonix | i really wish i could change the log format of apache2 errorlog |
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| 11:09.44 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 11:09.51 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 11:10.01 | Arrowmaster | afaik, check the config file |
| 11:10.13 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 11:10.32 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, no apparently the errorlog is the only one you can't modify |
| 11:10.59 | airtonix | you can specify where it is written to but thats it |
| 11:11.14 | airtonix | unless i missed something |
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| 11:28.19 | airtonix | http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=193729 |
| 11:28.25 | airtonix | " It is not possible to customize the error log by adding or removing information." |
| 11:28.31 | airtonix | :< |
| 11:29.40 | karl_w_w | airtonix |
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| 11:39.38 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, have you used apache piped logs ? |
| 11:42.43 | Arrowmaster | i havent messed with apache in a very long time |
| 11:45.29 | airtonix | i think i hav to make my own logging process to accept data on stdin |
| 11:47.38 | Dagmar | Are you talking about logging to a FIFO? |
| 11:48.15 | airtonix | Dagmar, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/logs.html#piped |
| 11:48.41 | airtonix | seems to be my only obvious option if i want milliseconds in my timestamps for error logs |
| 11:48.42 | Dagmar | Ah. Yeah. stdin. |
| 11:48.58 | airtonix | or even request ids |
| 11:50.09 | Dagmar | Umm...You could also try using a less ancient version of Apache |
| 11:50.33 | airtonix | im not about to go recompiling apache |
| 11:50.44 | Arrowmaster | what version are you running? |
| 11:51.05 | Dagmar | I am hoping it's not actually 1.3 |
| 11:51.06 | airtonix | 2.2.14-5ubuntu8 |
| 11:52.29 | Dagmar | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_log_forensic.html |
| 11:55.43 | airtonix | will that include errorlog entries ? |
| 11:57.25 | Dagmar | If you read the entire page, you will see that it is done using CustomLog |
| 11:57.31 | airtonix | yeah so it won't |
| 11:57.39 | Dagmar | It doesn't need to. |
| 11:57.47 | airtonix | but i do |
| 11:57.51 | Dagmar | You put the request ID in the your custom log |
| 11:58.00 | Dagmar | ...which contains error log stuff. |
| 11:59.03 | airtonix | but i still need to use piped logs becase strftime doesn't provide milliseconds |
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| 12:03.51 | zenzelezz | why do you need milliseconds? |
| 12:04.41 | airtonix | because i'm building an aggreate summary page of recent error logs sorted by timestamp |
| 12:05.07 | Dagmar | Surely you jest |
| 12:05.21 | mikma | http://www.nimmobay.com/media/360-video/360-video-nimmo-bay-helicopter-resort |
| 12:05.39 | mikma | yeah, you can move around in the video |
| 12:10.58 | zenzelezz | http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/political-pictures-they-see-me.jpg |
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| 12:13.56 | Arrowmaster | Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 12:13.56 | Arrowmaster | /dev/mapper/storage-data ext4 4.6T 3.5T 1.1T 77% /srv/data |
| 12:14.02 | Arrowmaster | fuck only 1.1TB free |
| 12:14.15 | zenzelezz | hate it when that happens |
| 12:14.40 | airtonix | are you using LVM ? |
| 12:14.46 | Vlakarados | how do you manually update a menu created with EasyMenu? the "checked" values don't change until you completely reopen it :( |
| 12:14.46 | Arrowmaster | seriously, 3.5TB in a little over a year |
| 12:15.01 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: LVM on a hardware raid6 |
| 12:15.12 | airtonix | i need to start using LVM |
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| 12:16.37 | Arrowmaster | i need to figure out how im going to upgrade this array in the future |
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| 12:19.21 | airtonix | im not sure how raid works but i assume you can't just add more drives and expand the LVM storage to those drives ? |
| 12:20.14 | Dagmar | Depends on what RAID configuration |
| 12:20.44 | Arrowmaster | raid controller only has 8 ports |
| 12:21.05 | Arrowmaster | i would have to get sata multiplexers to do something as complex as just adding more drives |
| 12:21.21 | Dagmar | You already have 8 in there? Ouch |
| 12:22.02 | airtonix | 2tb drives not as reliable as 1tb ? |
| 12:22.04 | Arrowmaster | yes 8 1TB drives |
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| 12:22.17 | Arrowmaster | 2tb raid class drives dont exist yet afaik |
| 12:22.28 | cbreak | raid class? :) |
| 12:22.41 | cbreak | you can put any type of hard disk into a raid |
| 12:22.59 | cbreak | raid after al stands for redundant array of inexpensive disks :) |
| 12:23.00 | Arrowmaster | yes but consumer drives arent ment for raid arrays |
| 12:23.04 | cbreak | (I know, it should be independent...) |
| 12:23.09 | Dagmar | They will however, work |
| 12:23.11 | Arrowmaster | remember the samsung fiasco |
| 12:23.36 | cbreak | hard disk manufacturers have problems with all kinds of drive types |
| 12:23.45 | Arrowmaster | firmware features of consumer drives actually make them worse for large raid arrays |
| 12:24.02 | cbreak | you can change some of those values |
| 12:24.13 | cbreak | like sleep timeout and so on |
| 12:24.20 | Arrowmaster | plus raid class drives are warrentied for 24/7 usage for 7 years |
| 12:24.24 | cbreak | (I read about a utility that does that for WD) |
| 12:24.43 | Arrowmaster | and ive yet to see a 7200rpm 2TB drive |
| 12:24.57 | cbreak | you use raids for speed? |
| 12:25.08 | Dagmar | http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/labs.google.com/en/us/papers/disk_failures.pdf |
| 12:25.30 | Arrowmaster | you should see the speeds from my RAID6 |
| 12:26.05 | Arrowmaster | i laugh at people that raid0 two ssds for speed |
| 12:26.29 | cbreak | a non-raid SSD beats your raid at random access |
| 12:26.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah but not sequential |
| 12:27.04 | cbreak | depends |
| 12:27.07 | cbreak | maybe sequential read |
| 12:27.13 | Dagmar | If you haven't found 2tb 7200's you haven't been looking |
| 12:27.13 | cbreak | ... write... not likely |
| 12:27.34 | cbreak | writing to SSD is problematic |
| 12:27.36 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i havent been looking for a year since i built this array |
| 12:28.09 | Arrowmaster | back then the only 2TB drives were all 'green' crap i would never use in a raid array |
| 12:28.47 | Dagmar | I prefer to keep the power draw low |
| 12:28.57 | cbreak | I like the "green" drives |
| 12:29.10 | cbreak | and I would use them in a raid, for a home nas for example |
| 12:29.22 | Dagmar | There's only so many years you can tolerate your electrical bill being over $100/month, every month of the year |
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| 12:29.40 | Dagmar | ...and then you decide you LIKE screen blanking and sleep modes again. |
| 12:38.09 | Arrowmaster | $100/month is high? |
| 12:38.18 | Arrowmaster | apparently ours is double that |
| 12:43.06 | Vlakarados | can anyone help me, maybe someone has already stumbled upon this issue? EasyMenu does not update checked=bool values until closed |
| 12:44.25 | bluspacecow | thats a limit of the wow api isn't it ? |
| 12:44.36 | bluspacecow | save variables aren't saved until logout ? |
| 12:45.00 | Vlakarados | no, I mean until I close it completely they stay the same way they were |
| 12:45.14 | Vlakarados | for example |
| 12:45.29 | Vlakarados | { text = "2", checked = (tcfg.frame.per==2), func = function() tcfg.frame.per = 2; position(); end }, |
| 12:45.29 | foxlit | Vlakarados: by design. It's a silly dropdown you're running if it can change state without user interaction :) |
| 12:45.53 | Vlakarados | the value updates, but how do I change it in the menu without closing it :) |
| 12:46.45 | airtonix | magic |
| 12:46.48 | Vlakarados | if I explained this right.. |
| 12:46.59 | airtonix | ~pastebin |
| 12:46.59 | purl | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 12:47.06 | Fisker | i'm sick blu |
| 12:47.08 | Fisker | bah |
| 12:47.19 | airtonix | rureallydoe |
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| 12:48.29 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 12:48.30 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 12:48.36 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 12:48.38 | airtonix | bluspacecow, kick fisker |
| 12:48.46 | airtonix | pls |
| 12:48.52 | bluspacecow | i'm not admin i can't |
| 12:48.52 | Fisker | why would you kick someone who is sick? |
| 12:48.54 | Fisker | that is a jerk move |
| 12:48.59 | airtonix | no |
| 12:49.08 | airtonix | it's a humanitarian effort |
| 12:49.12 | Fisker | jersk move then |
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| 13:08.04 | mikma | http://www.rlslog.net/mega-shark-vs-crocosaurus-2010-dvdrip-xvid-vomit/ |
| 13:08.05 | mikma | hahaa |
| 13:10.23 | airtonix | inb4fisker |
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| 13:13.44 | Vlakarados | how do you sort a table based on the children table values? |
| 13:14.31 | Arrowmaster | create your own sort func |
| 13:14.43 | Arrowmaster | !api table.sort |
| 13:14.43 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'table.sort' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.sort |
| 13:15.48 | Vlakarados | it sorts perfectly a table, but a table with children tables and their values? |
| 13:15.56 | Vlakarados | so that these children tables got sorted |
| 13:21.13 | Arrowmaster | if you want to sort by a key in a subtable just have the sort func do something like function(a,b) return a.subkey < b.subkey end |
| 13:21.41 | Vlakarados | http://pastebin.com/4Lj4LJnz |
| 13:23.10 | Arrowmaster | function(a,b) return a.val > b.val end |
| 13:23.11 | Arrowmaster | use that |
| 13:23.36 | Vlakarados | prints a 1; c 2; b 66; e 3423; d 3; f 533 |
| 13:24.14 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 13:24.27 | Arrowmaster | ztt is a has table and not an array |
| 13:24.31 | Arrowmaster | you can only sort arrays |
| 13:24.48 | Arrowmaster | see http://www.lua.org/pil/19.3.html |
| 13:26.00 | Vlakarados | thanks |
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| 13:32.29 | Yoshimo | mhmm, is there any reason why the itemlink for my girdle doesnt return the belt buckle as enchant? |
| 13:43.54 | Computerpunk_ | Fisker |
| 13:46.27 | Fisker | slaps Computerpunk_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:46.29 | Vlakarados | Arrowmaster, ok, I see how I can get it sorted by the keys now, but what about values? |
| 13:46.41 | Computerpunk_ | Oh no you don't. |
| 13:47.37 | Arrowmaster | well using that example from http://www.lua.org/pil/19.3.html you would pass in the function(a,b) return a.val > b.val end as the 2nd argument and it would use it for the sorting |
| 13:48.38 | Vlakarados | I get "attempt to compare two nil values" |
| 13:49.13 | Arrowmaster | well im going to bed |
| 13:49.48 | Vlakarados | ok, thank you |
| 14:07.51 | Vlakarados | sorry for being annoying but how do I get a key from a table using it's value? |
| 14:13.14 | Fisker | why do you hate me bluspacecow ? |
| 14:13.26 | bluspacecow | oh fisker |
| 14:13.31 | bluspacecow | i don't hate you darling |
| 14:13.39 | bluspacecow | yr my irc troll <3 |
| 14:13.45 | Fisker | you hate me :< |
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| 14:36.55 | foxlit | gah, Exorcism |
| 14:37.01 | foxlit | Why must you switch my target when you finish casting? |
| 14:37.10 | Fisker | you wouldn't download a cold foxlit |
| 14:37.40 | foxlit | you wouldn't pirate a remedy, Fisker. |
| 14:43.09 | mikma | you wouldn't fisker |
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| 14:54.05 | tlund | i am looking for an addon that extracts data from the guild rosters crafting list. I want to make an offline list of all the cataclysm gems and who in my guild can cut them. |
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| 14:54.14 | tejing | is there a mod that will keep bits of lua code and run them for you when you ask it? other than using macros, since that doesn't let you format the lua very nicely |
| 14:55.33 | TC-Away | mods are bits of lua code that run when you ask it |
| 14:55.49 | tlund | however, we call mods "addons" |
| 14:56.53 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: y so anal? |
| 14:57.07 | tlund | Kraps: huh? |
| 14:57.13 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i prefer literal |
| 14:57.26 | Kraps | semantics |
| 14:57.32 | tejing | Thunder_Child: I think it was clear what I meant |
| 14:57.53 | Thunder_Child | tejing: yes, but i'm an asshole |
| 14:58.01 | orgevo | agreed. - check out the WowLua addon |
| 14:58.26 | tlund | what was that new console command to export the blizzard default UI to disk? |
| 14:58.45 | tejing | orgevo: that looks promising |
| 14:59.11 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: you dont have mass effect |
| 14:59.23 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: no, i didnt like the first one |
| 14:59.26 | orgevo | tejing: it's sweet - I use it a lot, comes in handy for all sorts of little tests |
| 14:59.27 | Kraps | WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU |
| 14:59.41 | Thunder_Child | the kind that doesnt like the first one |
| 14:59.56 | Kraps | ARE YOU A BATARIAN? |
| 15:00.23 | Thunder_Child | someone who likes bats? |
| 15:00.50 | tejing | orgevo: looks like exactly what I want, installing it now. I've been using macaroon and just putting really long /script lines in the macro buttons, but the lack of formatting gets rather annoying |
| 15:01.25 | Kraps | http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k286/lordhellion/HAWTwired%20resources/BatariansMotiv1.jpg |
| 15:01.47 | orgevo | yeah man it saves a lot of time when you're trying to nail down logic or syntax bugs |
| 15:03.33 | orgevo | doesn't even really have any bugs, either - usually something that useful has tons of kludges |
| 15:05.47 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what didnt you like about it? |
| 15:10.39 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i cant remember much about it but the ground stuff stands out in my my as horrible. |
| 15:13.02 | Kraps | you should give 2 a try, it fixed a lot of issues that 1 had |
| 15:13.21 | sylvanaar | are "# Interface" and "## Interface" the same? |
| 15:14.05 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i own 2 |
| 15:14.11 | Thunder_Child | i like 2 |
| 15:14.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, i use 2 also, but i was wondering if 1 is valid, i guess i'll just have to try it |
| 15:14.50 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar: that was directed at Kraps |
| 15:15.07 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 15:15.27 | sylvanaar | well, nevertheless |
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| 15:21.46 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: ... |
| 15:21.49 | Kraps | anal |
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| 15:40.23 | TC-Work | Kraps: what? |
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| 15:47.02 | Kraps | TC-Work: nvm |
| 15:47.16 | Kraps | TC-Work: did you get any dlc? |
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| 15:58.35 | TC-Work | Kraps: yes, because i bought the whole pack thing when it was on sale a bit ago |
| 15:59.00 | airtonix | along with any other game tags as "on sale" |
| 15:59.11 | airtonix | you must have oddlebytes of games tc |
| 15:59.26 | A-KO | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1985162/spam.png < think I get enough wow phishing e-mail? |
| 16:00.34 | bluspacecow | i see no viagra spam in there a-ko |
| 16:00.45 | bluspacecow | clearly they think you are too young and viral for it |
| 16:00.46 | airtonix | dissapoint |
| 16:00.46 | A-KO | lol |
| 16:00.53 | A-KO | oh there's some in there somewhere |
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| 16:00.55 | A-KO | some cialis, too |
| 16:01.36 | bluspacecow | datth posted in that kalimdor |
| 16:01.37 | bluspacecow | thread |
| 16:01.50 | bluspacecow | he should of put "ya noobs" at the end |
| 16:02.00 | airtonix | ok i'll put it here |
| 16:02.03 | airtonix | ya noobs |
| 16:02.15 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 16:02.18 | bluspacecow | wrong chat |
| 16:02.25 | airtonix | hoho |
| 16:02.33 | airtonix | its off to work we goo |
| 16:02.41 | airtonix | actually sleep |
| 16:02.47 | airtonix | work can wait |
| 16:02.53 | bluspacecow | you get paid to sleep |
| 16:02.56 | bluspacecow | that is win. |
| 16:02.57 | airtonix | oh yeah |
| 16:03.19 | airtonix | part of the deal every citizen gets when you're in a first world country |
| 16:03.27 | airtonix | you should try it... it's nice |
| 16:03.36 | bluspacecow | brb |
| 16:03.36 | airtonix | the pizza is awesome |
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| 16:15.22 | Adys | ~seen Maldivia |
| 16:15.30 | purl | maldivia is currently on #wowuidev. Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1d 20h 24m 18s, last said: 'Adys: ok :P'. |
| 16:15.40 | Adys | brawr =\ |
| 16:15.43 | TC-Work | ~seen Adys Brain |
| 16:15.44 | purl | TC-Work: i haven't seen 'adys brain' |
| 16:15.59 | Adys | ~seen TC's spellchecker |
| 16:15.59 | purl | Adys: i haven't seen 'tc's spellchecker' |
| 16:17.15 | mikma | ~seen omg lol you both suck |
| 16:17.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'omg lol you both suck', mikma |
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| 16:29.44 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 16:29.48 | Fisker | i'm still sick |
| 16:31.32 | bluspacecow | your always sick fisker |
| 16:31.35 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
| 16:31.54 | Fisker | why would you fiskery fisker me? |
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| 16:36.22 | Maldivia | Adys: what's up? |
| 16:38.49 | bluspacecow | because you're so fiskery fisker then i can't help but fiskery fisker you |
| 16:43.16 | Fisker | oh my bluspacecow |
| 16:47.00 | TC-Work | this conversation is bad on so many levels |
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| 16:54.25 | Kraps | so is Fiskers mom |
| 16:57.09 | TC-Work | i wouldnt know, i never had the horror. |
| 16:58.50 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 16:58.52 | bluspacecow | her naked |
| 16:58.56 | bluspacecow | thats a true horror |
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| 17:14.19 | dusf | do you guys post screenshots of your uis anywhere? i'm looking for some inspiration on a minimalist theme |
| 17:14.49 | dusf | screenshots of uis and a list of addons used really would be great |
| 17:18.03 | A-KO | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1985162/wow_interface.png < my last UI screenshot, I've since made slight modifications |
| 17:18.07 | A-KO | but overall it's still the same |
| 17:18.25 | A-KO | minimalist to me is also minimal in memory usage :P |
| 17:19.09 | zenzelezz | hardcore minimalists play with UIParent hidden |
| 17:19.13 | A-KO | haha zenzelezz |
| 17:19.15 | A-KO | definitely |
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| 17:23.40 | TC-Work | A-KO: you might want to think about an addon that cleans up the minimap buttons to a single button. |
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| 17:24.20 | TC-Work | and having your tolltips onder recount might pose a problem |
| 17:24.23 | Pneumatus | actionbars are overrated |
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| 17:24.24 | TC-Work | tooltips* |
| 17:24.30 | TC-Work | under* |
| 17:25.30 | Cide | why do people strive for minimalism |
| 17:25.45 | Cide | you want a fair amount of information to properly do your job |
| 17:26.09 | Cide | for non-raids I get it |
| 17:26.17 | TC-Work | i admit i go to the other end of the spectrum, i try to have all info at my fingertips at once. |
| 17:26.29 | TC-Work | 6 monitors just to play wow ftw |
| 17:26.38 | Cide | it's perfectly doable on one. |
| 17:26.47 | Cide | you don't need recount showing for that matter |
| 17:26.51 | TC-Work | depends on your resolution |
| 17:26.58 | TC-Work | and how much info you want |
| 17:27.02 | Cide | I'm a healer |
| 17:27.04 | Cide | I think I win |
| 17:27.17 | TC-Work | i have 2 healers |
| 17:27.21 | Cide | at once?! |
| 17:27.24 | TC-Work | yes |
| 17:27.29 | Cide | nice |
| 17:27.34 | TC-Work | -_- |
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| 17:28.00 | Cide | recount is totally unnecessary |
| 17:28.06 | Cide | tradeskill bars are totally unnecessary |
| 17:28.23 | Cide | blizzard's buff ui is meh at best |
| 17:28.31 | TC-Work | while healers by far need the most amount of information it isn't exactly bad to have it for others |
| 17:28.36 | Cide | blizzard's raid ui is not good for healing |
| 17:28.53 | Cide | slidebar is worthless imo |
| 17:29.02 | Cide | so is the enchantrix minimap button |
| 17:29.10 | TC-Work | and most of the buttons to the right of ability's are redundant |
| 17:29.10 | ProNihilist | properly done minimalism does not sacrifice access to information |
| 17:29.14 | TC-Work | since they are all hotkeyed |
| 17:29.17 | Cide | quest objectives showing in a raid?! |
| 17:29.20 | Cide | ProNihilist: yes it does |
| 17:29.32 | Cide | you would not classify any healer's ui as minimalistic |
| 17:29.33 | TC-Work | i think i agree with cide here |
| 17:29.39 | Cide | if it's a proper healing ui |
| 17:29.51 | TC-Work | at least, the way wow players chose to define minimalist |
| 17:29.59 | ProNihilist | WoW players are dumb though |
| 17:30.01 | Cide | you need main tank frames, player frames, raid frames, boss mods, chat, buffs, debuffs |
| 17:30.18 | A-KO | meh, keep in mind that my field of view for what's going on is focused entirely on the center of the screen and at my character, nearly everything on the outside edges is disposable information. |
| 17:30.24 | Cide | simply lowering the scale so that take up a miniscule amount of space does not dictate minimalism either, just stupidity |
| 17:30.38 | Cide | A-KO: such as your target and yourself? :P |
| 17:30.41 | Cide | and buffs and debuffs |
| 17:30.45 | ProNihilist | Cide: correct |
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| 17:31.06 | A-KO | Cide: I see myself on the raid UI, buffs are taken care of before any action is taken, debuffs that I care about show up in the raid UI |
| 17:31.07 | Cide | of course I'm correct |
| 17:31.15 | Cide | they do? |
| 17:31.20 | Cide | you see cat form and bear form |
| 17:31.26 | Cide | that's irrelevant information |
| 17:31.29 | ProNihilist | and sacrificing access to information does the same, minimalism is about getting rid of *unneccessary* things |
| 17:31.34 | A-KO | dispellable debuffs show up on blizzard's raid UI |
| 17:31.38 | A-KO | everything else I don't really carea bout |
| 17:31.43 | Cide | lots of debuffs are undispellable |
| 17:31.50 | Pneumatus | good luck with Chimaeron then |
| 17:32.00 | Pneumatus | Low Health isn't dispellable, and you sure as hell need to know about that |
| 17:32.03 | A-KO | that's fine, but I see the popup warnings with bigwigs |
| 17:32.03 | Cide | for chimaeron you need absolute hp for that matter |
| 17:32.21 | A-KO | and I'll adjust accordingly for that encounter if-needed. |
| 17:32.32 | Cide | just sayin' |
| 17:32.37 | Cide | grid would be a much better choice |
| 17:32.44 | Cide | it conveys a lot more information |
| 17:32.56 | Cide | afk |
| 17:37.13 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:51.03 | TC-Work | ~fisker fisker |
| 17:51.35 | Fisker | i'm kind of sick TC-Work |
| 17:52.02 | TC-Work | Fisker: if you were as sick as you keep suggesting you would be dead by now |
| 17:52.26 | Fisker | why TC-Work ? |
| 17:52.37 | Fisker | i haven't suggested that i'm terminally ill |
| 17:52.49 | TC-Work | Fisker: because you would have the immune system of a gnat |
| 17:53.01 | TC-Work | unless gnats have really good immune systems |
| 17:53.05 | TC-Work | then ignore that |
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| 17:54.06 | Kraps | ~wiki gnat |
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| 18:15.57 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 18:15.59 | Fisker | who here is sick? |
| 18:23.25 | foxlit | "Due to technical issues..." |
| 18:25.43 | Fisker | sup foxlit ? |
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| 18:49.02 | kd3 | wtfs at fark |
| 18:49.18 | kd3 | "California: come for the earthquakes, stay for the 45-day "superstorm" that could drop up to 10 feet of rain [Scary]" |
| 18:50.57 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 18:50.59 | Fisker | i'm very sick |
| 18:51.08 | kd3 | take 2 advil and call me in the morning |
| 18:51.10 | Fisker | no |
| 18:51.15 | Fisker | that sounds dangerous |
| 18:54.14 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uef17zOCDb8 |
| 18:54.42 | Fisker | i do not like |
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| 18:56.32 | mikma | we don't like you either |
| 18:58.57 | Fisker | oh but you do |
| 19:01.44 | Ackis | Fisker: I'm sick man :( |
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| 19:03.41 | Fisker | me too Ackis |
| 19:05.29 | Ackis | how come on tol barad peninsula some days there are 5 dailies, other days there are 6? |
| 19:06.36 | Fisker | because Ackis |
| 19:06.37 | Fisker | your face |
| 19:08.13 | Adys | Cairenn|afk, dolby: woot @ git support |
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| 19:19.42 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.24 | Fisker | Dagmar |
| 19:26.32 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 19:29.14 | Adys | am i the only one falling through the world at the BoT entrance. |
| 19:30.12 | Fisker | i'm falling through the world inside BoT |
| 19:39.07 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 19:40.12 | Fisker | Ackis |
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| 19:42.21 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:42.24 | Fisker | life is beautiful |
| 19:43.39 | Ackis | no it's not |
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| 19:55.36 | Fisker | oh but it is Ackis |
| 19:55.41 | Fisker | especially when i'm sick |
| 19:59.22 | Sapu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.22 | Sapu | err nvm |
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| 20:04.05 | Seerah | Sapu: :) |
| 20:04.23 | Sapu | yea thought I put it in patches at first |
| 20:04.26 | sioraiocht | mikma: I love the oil burner and scent you guys gave us |
| 20:04.28 | Sapu | that makes sense |
| 20:04.28 | sioraiocht | it smells heavenly |
| 20:05.01 | Sapu | sorry for the extra work :) |
| 20:05.16 | Seerah | np. I'm OCD and usually check that addons are in the correct place anyway ;) |
| 20:06.28 | Sapu | any chance you could move the main one to "TradeSkill Mods"? |
| 20:06.43 | Seerah | if you want it there instead of auctions, sure |
| 20:06.49 | Sapu | that'd be great thanks |
| 20:07.46 | Seerah | you're all taken care of :) |
| 20:07.54 | Seerah | that looks better as different modules, btw :) |
| 20:07.58 | Sapu | one last question for you...any way of disabling comments? |
| 20:08.16 | Seerah | oh yeah, I saw that in your description. |
| 20:09.36 | Seerah | do you want to put a note there first? Otherwise it prompts people to be the first to add comments (should tell dolby about that) |
| 20:10.35 | Sapu | sure I can make a comment |
| 20:11.23 | Seerah | I'll disable them when you're finished, Sapu :) |
| 20:12.32 | Sapu | not working for _Gathering |
| 20:13.10 | Seerah | it should be... |
| 20:13.20 | Sapu | got one in for the main addon...can't seem to get one for the modules though |
| 20:13.27 | Sapu | I can hit submit but it doesn't show up |
| 20:14.17 | Seerah | I made one for gathering. |
| 20:14.38 | Seerah | I'll do it for the others if you can't (which is weird, cause you should be able to...) |
| 20:14.43 | Sapu | ok I can reply to yours |
| 20:15.05 | Fisker | i'm cold Ackis |
| 20:15.06 | Sapu | so I just replied then deleted yours |
| 20:15.14 | Seerah | weird. I deleted yours and it removed mine o.O |
| 20:15.16 | Seerah | oh |
| 20:15.18 | Seerah | that's why :p |
| 20:15.20 | Sapu | haha |
| 20:15.29 | Seerah | try again |
| 20:15.42 | Sapu | I can't be the first one though |
| 20:15.44 | Sapu | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:25.02 | Adys | cogwheel? |
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| 20:28.37 | Seerah | Sapu: just a comment, but... some of your screenshots are so tiny |
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| 20:39.01 | Sapu | seerah we'll get better ones up (and also make the description pages a bit less ugly) soon hopefully...just wanted to get them all uploaded for today :) |
| 20:39.25 | Seerah | yep. Just letting you know. :) It seems the just 2 are unreadable |
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| 20:39.34 | Seerah | *seems that |
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| 21:05.59 | Maldivia | *smirk* http://i.imgur.com/wpdbv.jpg |
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| 21:08.20 | Fisker | i would jerk if i could Maldivia |
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| 21:10.58 | mikma | sioraiocht: neato :D |
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| 21:23.31 | TMc51 | Hey hey hey |
| 21:24.35 | Fisker | slaps TMc51 around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:25.06 | TMc51 | And I love you too, Fisker. |
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| 21:26.34 | mikma | can you lock your facebook wall so others cant write there? =/ |
| 21:26.46 | Shirik | is now in Portland |
| 21:27.17 | Iriel | Shirik: on a semi-permanent basis? or just visiting? |
| 21:27.36 | Shirik | well, I'll be living outside of portland |
| 21:27.38 | Shirik | but permanent |
| 21:27.42 | Shirik | this is my final flight |
| 21:27.47 | Iriel | Welcome back to the correct coast 8-) |
| 21:29.45 | Cide | <- on the correct coast |
| 21:29.46 | Cide | imo |
| 21:31.24 | Shirik | Iriel :) |
| 21:31.41 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:31.44 | Fisker | i'm sick? |
| 21:32.19 | Shirik | no you're not |
| 21:32.57 | Fisker | i am :( |
| 21:33.27 | Shirik | nope |
| 21:34.23 | Fisker | yep :< |
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| 21:38.48 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/diy_toilet.jpg |
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| 21:40.38 | mikma | harl: nsfw http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/japanese_curling.jpg |
| 21:40.48 | mikma | haste: you too |
| 21:40.53 | mikma | stupid harl |
| 21:41.25 | Fisker | haste is a jerk |
| 21:41.51 | harl | moo |
| 21:42.16 | mikma | something for shirik too: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/handwriting.jpg |
| 21:42.35 | Shirik | pretty much accurate |
| 21:43.08 | Fisker | my Shirik |
| 21:46.10 | mikma | cairenn|afk: soƶething for you also: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/super_cute_fennec_fox_awww.jpg |
| 21:48.50 | haste | the one for shirik is very theoatmeal |
| 21:48.55 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:49.00 | haste | no Fisker ! |
| 21:49.06 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.11 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/retorinen_kysymys.jpg |
| 21:49.12 | Fisker | butsu, bugs, curse |
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| 21:49.27 | haste | what bugs Fisker? |
| 21:50.18 | Arrowmaster | at the time i read the back of the tshirt, no because the rest of the image hadnt loaded yet |
| 21:50.24 | Arrowmaster | kicks internet connection |
| 21:51.24 | Fisker | that loot box is hueg bug haste |
| 21:51.26 | Kraps | how are Quarians similar to Jews? |
| 21:51.44 | mikma | kraps: the mass-hate towards them |
| 21:52.02 | Kraps | no homeland |
| 21:52.38 | Kraps | meh |
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| 21:56.22 | haste | Fisker: oh, that's fixed on git |
| 21:56.40 | haste | I just haven't made a release yet, because I need to add the quest icon highlight as well |
| 21:56.43 | haste | and merge in some translations |
| 21:57.52 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 21:58.13 | Fisker | you could make a release on curse though |
| 21:59.13 | haste | why should I? |
| 21:59.19 | Fisker | because you like curse |
| 21:59.24 | Fisker | and i like you |
| 22:00.25 | mikma | ruhahahaha! |
| 22:00.26 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/gift.jpg |
| 22:02.49 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/diskette_usb.jpg |
| 22:17.59 | Kraps | hehe http://www.pandora.com/music/song/delain/invidia |
| 22:18.33 | TMc51 | <3 Delain |
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| 22:54.09 | Kaelten | Horde bathroom remodel: http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i378/Leofwynn/ |
| 22:56.37 | jnwhiteh | Kaelten: that was awesome |
| 22:56.58 | Kaelten | Very impressive work |
| 22:59.02 | sylvanaar_work | what is coming out of the skulls head, a brush handle? |
| 23:00.00 | sylvanaar_work | is that your bathroom Kaelten? |
| 23:00.07 | Kaelten | no |
| 23:00.09 | Kaelten | just a link |
| 23:00.34 | sylvanaar_work | ah, wonder why they went with fire engine red for the toilet seat |
| 23:01.43 | Xyphoid | i look at those pictures and i dread cleaning it |
| 23:02.12 | sylvanaar_work | how will a tauren fit into that itty bitty space |
| 23:02.33 | Iriel | Xyphoid: Not cleaning it would add to the ambiance |
| 23:02.50 | sylvanaar_work | kind of like the bright red seat |
| 23:02.56 | Iriel | sylvanaar: noggenfogger? |
| 23:02.58 | Xyphoid | tauren-pats everywhere |
| 23:03.15 | sylvanaar_work | Iriel: yeah, i guess that'd work |
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| 23:06.57 | Angayelle | hai people |
| 23:10.58 | Angayelle | question about concatenation : _G["text".."2"] means a string from global which can be used to specify a frame for ex. using UnitName("raid".."2") means UnitName("raid2") |
| 23:11.33 | Cide | ... |
| 23:11.35 | Iriel | yes |
| 23:11.42 | Iriel | _G[x] is just a table lookup |
| 23:11.43 | Cide | I have no idea how you managed to interpret that Iriel |
| 23:11.54 | Angayelle | now i can't use concateantion to have a variable name |
| 23:12.08 | Cide | not a local variable, only global |
| 23:12.29 | Angayelle | like in : /run local textmatch = "prut" local edbuff1, edbuff2, edbuff3, edbuff4, edbuff5, edbuff6 = strsplit("_", textmatch) print(edbuff..1) |
| 23:12.46 | Cide | you may want to stick your variables as keys in a table if you need to look them up dynamically, but often it's a design problem |
| 23:13.05 | Iriel | Try local edbuff = { strsplit("_", textmatch) } print(edbuff[1]) |
| 23:13.16 | Cide | or in this case, if you only need one, you can use select() |
| 23:13.46 | Angayelle | i'll have up to 6 string exctracted from the textmatch variable |
| 23:14.24 | Angayelle | i thought i could use something like for i =1,6 do print(edbuff..i) |
| 23:16.06 | Cide | no. you should probably read www.lua.org/pil as it seems you do not have a lot of experience with lua |
| 23:16.12 | Cide | it's a good read |
| 23:16.20 | Angayelle | i tried, the part on concatenation is rather small |
| 23:16.56 | Angayelle | it speak only on string manipulation which is not what i need |
| 23:17.24 | Angayelle | or i need maybe to find how to convert that string into a workable variable name |
| 23:19.01 | Angayelle | oh found a chapter with 14.1 - Accessing Global Variables with Dynamic Names, gonna check that |
| 23:22.00 | Cide | we gave you what you need |
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| 23:28.03 | jnwhiteh | New beta version of TomTom released, please upgrade and help me test it =) |
| 23:28.11 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: my hackfix is in there |
| 23:28.13 | jnwhiteh | pretty proud of it =) |
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| 23:31.42 | Kraps | http://www.travelinsurance.org/gaming-worlds/ |
| 23:34.01 | Angayelle | thanks cide and iriel, got it sorted, the table index was the way to go |
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| 23:37.54 | Wobin | Kraps: hah |
| 23:37.57 | Wobin | it doesn't have minecraft on it |
| 23:40.05 | Cide | you can't compare a randomly generated memory-bound world with custom-crafted worlds |
| 23:41.35 | foxlit | how the heck do you even measure distance? |
| 23:42.46 | Iriel | Probably use a human-sized creature as reference |
| 23:42.59 | foxlit | I was thinking movement speed, but bleh |
| 23:43.05 | Cide | or assume that run-speed is consistent with ... yeah |
| 23:43.16 | Xyphoid | that lotro map looks really weird |
| 23:43.17 | Iriel | Having guild wars on there is pretty lame too |
| 23:43.24 | Xyphoid | are they including that entire block despite it all being zoned off? |
| 23:43.35 | Iriel | it should be 'areas you can actually stand on' |
| 23:44.35 | foxlit | How about hours |
| 23:44.42 | foxlit | Of travel time between two points furthest apart |
| 23:45.30 | Cide | that's one-dimensional though |
| 23:45.47 | foxlit | Think of it as the diameter of the world. |
| 23:46.32 | foxlit | the next objection, I suppose, is "on foot?" |
| 23:46.33 | Cide | that's a bad analogy |
| 23:47.04 | Cide | for some objects (circles, squares, ...) there are relationships between the diameter and the area |
| 23:47.12 | Cide | not so for general shapes |
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| 23:48.20 | foxlit | I don't think that's an interesting observation |
| 23:48.30 | cbreak | the relation is between the shape and the area it occupies |
| 23:48.33 | Cide | it is |
| 23:48.35 | KarlKFI | why isnt wow in that list? |
| 23:48.38 | Cide | it is |
| 23:48.40 | Xyphoid | it is way down the bottom |
| 23:48.44 | Xyphoid | i just don't believe that lotro stat though |
| 23:48.57 | foxlit | Generally, I'd like a measure of how *big* the world is |
| 23:49.00 | Cide | foxlit: you can't use the time to walk along a one-dimensional path |
| 23:49.08 | foxlit | That isn't necessarily area. |
| 23:49.15 | Cide | for the size of the world is not dependent on how the area elements are situated |
| 23:49.29 | Cide | if you take all the zones of world of warcraft and put them side to side you get a larger world by your definition |
| 23:49.45 | cbreak | that map is rubish |
| 23:49.46 | Cide | but the content remains the same |
| 23:49.55 | foxlit | I can live with that :) |
| 23:49.57 | cbreak | the largest game world I know of is Eve Online |
| 23:50.09 | Cide | probably true |
| 23:50.23 | Cide | but also a bad candidate since it's so much cheaper to create content for eve |
| 23:50.36 | cbreak | eve has content? |
| 23:50.42 | Cide | given that you need what, a star and a bunch of planets? which is basically a texture |
| 23:50.59 | cbreak | it's a texture _on_a_geoid_ |
| 23:51.45 | cbreak | but wow is small... weird |
| 23:51.53 | cbreak | wonder how they measured it's dimensions |
| 23:52.12 | Cide | cbreak: yes? |
| 23:52.45 | Xyphoid | i think their stats are just rubbish |
| 23:55.05 | Kraps | mass effect has realistic distances i think |
| 23:59.51 | Kraps | http://www.dotemu.com/en/the-last-express |
