| 00:00.05 | Cide1 | that's pretty much a standard, just informal |
| 00:00.35 | KarlKFI|work | if you use DD/MM/YYYY in the US to display to users they will ahte you |
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| 00:00.47 | KarlKFI|work | YYYY/MM/DD is acceptable |
| 00:00.51 | Fisker | NO! |
| 00:00.59 | Fisker | DDMMYYYY or gtfo |
| 00:01.11 | KarlKFI|work | but usualyl it's YYYY-MM-DD |
| 00:01.21 | Fisker | DDMMYYYY |
| 00:01.28 | foxlit | Just like we do SSMMHH! |
| 00:02.05 | Arrowmaster | really they should never be used in an international context so bad to use on any computer unless you are going to offer multiple english locals and be sure the user will set it corrently and not have it default to one like en_us and if they want to change it they have to dig through a config somewhere |
| 00:02.08 | Fisker | technically we do foxlit |
| 00:02.09 | KarlKFI|work | you read right to left? |
| 00:02.34 | Fisker | when someone asks for the time you'll likely reply in MMHH and not HHMM |
| 00:02.38 | Fisker | :3 |
| 00:02.45 | Cide1 | no? |
| 00:02.50 | Fisker | yes |
| 00:02.52 | Fisker | even you Cide1 |
| 00:02.53 | KarlKFI|work | since my domain is a US university... i dont localize anything |
| 00:03.00 | zenzelezz | "My, what strange NOPs you have!" - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2011/01/12/10114521.aspx - sometimes it seems oh so fun to be a low-level coder |
| 00:03.02 | Cide1 | you'll likely reply in a textual representation |
| 00:03.03 | Fisker | if you have any other experience then you are wrong and should feel bad about yourself |
| 00:03.10 | Fisker | yes Cide1 |
| 00:03.23 | Fisker | but obviously that would represent MMHH and usually not HHMM |
| 00:03.36 | Cide1 | a textual representation represents a time |
| 00:03.42 | Cide1 | it cannot represent another representation of time |
| 00:03.43 | KarlKFI|work | if you represent them without separators i will kill you |
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| 00:07.29 | Fisker_ | no! |
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| 00:09.13 | Tuller | yes! |
| 00:10.19 | Cide1 | "That's right, this isn't just a regular NOP; this is a *32-bit NOP*." |
| 00:10.21 | Cide1 | that's hilarious |
| 00:11.15 | Cide1 | also |
| 00:11.17 | Cide1 | "For example, there was one bug that manifested itself in incorrect instruction decoding if a conditional branch instruction had just the right sequence of taken/not-taken history, and the branch instruction was followed immediately by a selector load, and one of the first two instructions at the destination of the branch was itself a jump, call, or return." |
| 00:11.18 | Cide1 | fun stuff |
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| 00:15.37 | foxlit | wonder what happened at hardware level. |
| 00:17.48 | Dagmar | A tiny imp would double over with laughter at the idea that people were still using the compiler that generated those instructions. |
| 00:18.07 | Cide1 | it wasn't a bugged compiler |
| 00:18.10 | Cide1 | it was a bugged processor |
| 00:18.30 | Cide1 | the description is of a hardware bug |
| 00:18.58 | cog|work | has a sandy bridge on the way |
| 00:19.00 | Dagmar | ? |
| 00:19.07 | Dagmar | Oh! Oh fuck |
| 00:19.44 | Dagmar | Bleh. It would heave been easier to figure out if they'd just said "Installing Windows 95 on a *386*" |
| 00:20.20 | Dagmar | eff it |
| 00:22.53 | Dagmar | My mind just didn't even want to see that. People shouldn't have been trying to put 95 on a 386 for the same reason you don't want W7 on a 486. Those chips just don't _go_ fast enough |
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| 00:25.13 | Thrae | KarlKFI|work: You still around |
| 00:25.18 | Thrae | KarlKFI|work: You still around? |
| 00:25.30 | KarlKFI|work | ? |
| 00:25.50 | Thrae | KarlKFI|work: Have you redeemed Bioware points before? I'm clueless with this :) |
| 00:26.40 | KarlKFI|work | yes |
| 00:27.18 | KarlKFI|work | tip: only buy what you need for what you're buying now |
| 00:27.35 | KarlKFI|work | because if you buy more but not enough for another dlc you can't spend them |
| 00:27.50 | Thrae | Yeah, same with Microsoft Points |
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| 00:28.11 | KarlKFI|work | MS poitns you can at leats buy more to make up the difference |
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| 00:28.28 | KarlKFI|work | Bioware points if you dont have enough you have to pay full price |
| 00:28.35 | Thrae | You can buy more Bioware points too, can't you? |
| 00:28.40 | KarlKFI|work | not easily |
| 00:28.49 | KarlKFI|work | in any useful increments |
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| 00:29.20 | KarlKFI|work | you can buy what you need for that purchase or some other set amount above that, like $10 or whatever |
| 00:30.00 | KarlKFI|work | i couldnt figure out how to buy less than your purchase price to offset points you already own |
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| 00:30.29 | Thrae | So where do I actually go? It doesn't seem to be on social.bioware.com. |
| 00:30.48 | Thrae | EA says to go there, which confuses me. |
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| 00:31.49 | KarlKFI|work | everything's under the Profile menu |
| 00:31.52 | KarlKFI|work | ont he side |
| 00:31.59 | KarlKFI|work | add more points lets you buy more |
| 00:32.09 | KarlKFI|work | or click on a dlc "buy now" |
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| 00:33.13 | mckenziemc1 | stabs Fisker with a basketball. |
| 00:33.17 | KarlKFI|work | or top menu Games > [game] > Official DLC |
| 00:33.59 | Thrae | Yeah I got stuck on "https://points.bioware.com/lockbox-ui/checkout/showOffers", and I don't have a Games menu option |
| 00:34.30 | Thrae | I have "My Games", which has "Register Games" and "Dragon Age Origins - PC" |
| 00:35.04 | KarlKFI|work | "Games " is in the top menu. not the left |
| 00:35.50 | KarlKFI|work | the My Games menu only shows games you have uploaded data from, so only DA:O |
| 00:35.52 | Thrae | Ahhhh there we go |
| 00:36.12 | KarlKFI|work | it's the worst interface ont he planet |
| 00:36.42 | Kraps | if the dont fix maleshep's grin in me3 ima shoot a fool |
| 00:36.58 | KarlKFI|work | change the default face |
| 00:37.25 | KarlKFI|work | all the cutscenes use the one you customize |
| 00:38.19 | Thrae | OK cool, I just bought Shadow Broker |
| 00:38.44 | KarlKFI|work | have you played through the game yet? |
| 00:38.50 | Thrae | No |
| 00:39.23 | Thrae | Apparently that was such a massive mistake he head-desked and typed out /quit. |
| 00:39.34 | solocommand | does wowprogramming list a changelog for api functions, or just the current version? |
| 00:39.35 | Cide1 | yeah |
| 00:39.39 | Cide1 | understandable |
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| 00:40.43 | Cide1 | I'm considering getting Gemini Rue |
| 00:40.48 | Cide1 | anyone played it? |
| 00:41.04 | KarlKFI|work | I'd say buy um all, but it's up to you |
| 00:41.20 | Cide1 | No |
| 00:41.25 | KarlKFI|work | Gemini Rue isn't out yet |
| 00:41.32 | Thrae | KarlKFI: The armor packs too? Hmm |
| 00:41.33 | Cide1 | oh you didn't quit this time |
| 00:41.41 | KarlKFI|work | i came back |
| 00:41.49 | KarlKFI|work | no not the armor |
| 00:41.55 | KarlKFI|work | just the gameplay ones |
| 00:42.07 | Cide1 | ah, I misread the post about it |
| 00:42.18 | Thrae | KarlKFI: Hmm, I just see Shadow Broker and Cerberus. |
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| 00:42.52 | Thrae | KarlKFI: Overlord and Kasumi are not armor packs? |
| 00:43.35 | KarlKFI|work | Shadow Broker, Overlord Pack, and Kasumi add levels |
| 00:43.46 | Kraps | ^ |
| 00:44.02 | Thrae | Ah, k |
| 00:44.09 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: i like using the default face |
| 00:44.10 | KarlKFI|work | Cerberus network unlocks a handful of the 'free' dlc |
| 00:44.24 | KarlKFI|work | make sure you download those too after you redeem your code |
| 00:45.24 | KarlKFI|work | in particular Zaeed, Normandy Crash Site and Firewalker |
| 00:45.29 | KarlKFI|work | all add levels |
| 00:46.05 | KarlKFI|work | Shadow Broker, Zaeed, and Kasumi also all add playable characters |
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| 00:46.18 | KarlKFI|work | team members rather |
| 00:46.25 | KarlKFI|work | that impact the rest of the game |
| 00:47.29 | KarlKFI|work | they can be used on all levels after getting them, have their own loyalty missions, and their own voiced comments throughout the game similar to the other characters |
| 00:50.28 | KarlKFI|work | Shadow Broker has one right? |
| 00:50.32 | KarlKFI|work | Liara? |
| 00:50.37 | Thrae | KarlKFI: Thanks for your help :) I'm also going to buy Pinnacle Station for my original Mass Effect. |
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| 00:51.39 | Kraps | btw, batarians are scum |
| 00:52.48 | Dagmar | racist! |
| 00:52.55 | KarlKFI|work | ah yes, you get Liara T'Soni back |
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| 00:56.49 | Kraps | oh sweet KarlKFI|work |
| 00:57.42 | Dagmar | T'soni's people have "issues" |
| 00:57.52 | KarlKFI|work | which is nice to knwo before you go fuck up your love interest after the first game, heh |
| 00:58.26 | KarlKFI|work | not adding that dlc till after i finished the game was mean |
| 01:00.29 | Thrae | KarlKFI|work: Do you live in the UK? |
| 01:00.35 | KarlKFI|work | no |
| 01:01.16 | KarlKFI|work | speaking of which, why do you play on a mountain time server Cide1 ? |
| 01:01.22 | Cide1 | I do? |
| 01:01.25 | Cide1 | maybe I do |
| 01:01.34 | Thrae | Ah, nevermind then. I was going to suggest http://g2play.net/store as an alternative place to buy Bioware points. |
| 01:01.34 | KarlKFI|work | Doomhammer is mountain time |
| 01:01.45 | Cide1 | ts and I initially transferred here to play with Juggernaut |
| 01:01.55 | Cide1 | I believe they had their raid times at ~6pm pst |
| 01:01.57 | Thrae | Haha, Doomhammer. I love that name. DOOOM-Hammer! |
| 01:02.04 | Cide1 | and so do we |
| 01:02.14 | Cide1 | so that was the reason |
| 01:02.50 | KarlKFI|work | yeah, i was hesitant to move to mountain time, but it was the only server i could find with raids that started after i got home from work instead of before |
| 01:03.11 | KarlKFI|work | they'd start at 6 mountain which was 7pm pst |
| 01:04.10 | KarlKFI|work | and that means i get to sleep in, which is definitely the most important thign to schedule around |
| 01:05.52 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: can you explain the love interest thing without spoilers? my shepard did her in the first game |
| 01:06.09 | KarlKFI|work | it's similar to the first game |
| 01:06.28 | KarlKFI|work | except you can import all your stats and story fromt eh first game |
| 01:06.44 | KarlKFI|work | so you have history |
| 01:06.46 | Fisker | slaps Thrae around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:07.00 | Thrae | Fisker: whaaaaat |
| 01:07.44 | KarlKFI|work | your love interest fromt he first one gets a picture on your desk |
| 01:07.58 | KarlKFI|work | and it affects some dialogs |
| 01:08.02 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: yeah |
| 01:08.11 | Fisker | i slapped you Thrae |
| 01:08.17 | Kraps | this isnt my first playthough :) |
| 01:08.21 | Thrae | Fisker: Yes, why |
| 01:08.36 | Kraps | but in the dlc |
| 01:08.48 | Kraps | you can rehookup? |
| 01:10.18 | Motig | Is there any reason why GameTooltip:SetAlpha(alpha) doesn't make the tooltip fully opaque when set to 1? |
| 01:10.25 | Motig | I can't seem to get rid of the transparency :| |
| 01:10.46 | Seerah | is the texture semi-transparent? |
| 01:11.07 | Motig | that's a good point. |
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| 01:11.23 | Tuller | yes, yes it is |
| 01:11.25 | Fisker | to the sleep mobile Thrae |
| 01:11.27 | Fisker | that's why |
| 01:12.01 | Motig | Cheers, going to look into that |
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| 01:50.02 | Duman | NO U |
| 01:51.34 | cog|away | I NO RITE? |
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| 01:55.35 | Duman | Heh, I was actually tabbed over to the wrong channel - but whatever ;-) |
| 01:55.47 | cog|away | :) |
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| 02:19.02 | xterm | anyone in here familiar with altoholic? |
| 02:20.10 | Kraps | KarlKFI: you there? |
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| 02:22.53 | mckenziemc | xterm: yes |
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| 02:34.33 | foxlit | Hm, rewatching series 5 yields but one question: which Doctor will River kill? |
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| 02:41.28 | KarlKFI | sorry. kept getting disc |
| 02:42.00 | KarlKFI | what do you mean by rehookup? |
| 02:42.08 | KarlKFI | oh liana |
| 02:42.16 | KarlKFI | i think you can with the dlc |
| 02:42.26 | KarlKFI | but i couldnt because i had already beat the game |
| 02:42.39 | KarlKFI | never finished my 2nd runthrough |
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| 02:46.45 | Kraps | the shadow broker dlc, do you start it through conversation with her? |
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| 02:50.22 | KarlKFI | i have no idea |
| 02:50.36 | KarlKFI | there was already some stuff with here before the dlc was released |
| 02:51.30 | makiren | Howdy, I have a question that I'm sure is probably easy, but how do I copy script output from the chatwindow |
| 02:51.45 | KarlKFI | ChatEdit |
| 02:52.01 | KarlKFI | or some other magical addon that lets you select it |
| 02:52.08 | Ketho | Prat copychat module? |
| 02:52.25 | KarlKFI | not even sure if ChatEdit still works |
| 02:52.28 | xterm | Chatter has a history that you can copy in various formats |
| 02:53.08 | makiren | thought about using those but what I'd like to do is so that when I run the script, instead of printing it in the chat frame, is does like prat's copy text option |
| 02:53.37 | KarlKFI | i should update ChatEdit |
| 02:53.43 | makiren | either the popup or edit in the editbox |
| 02:54.10 | xterm | have your script make a panel with a textbox field? |
| 02:55.00 | makiren | thats my question i suppose. new to lua |
| 02:55.35 | KarlKFI | is this for your addon or some other addon? |
| 02:55.43 | KarlKFI | or a macro |
| 02:56.03 | makiren | for a macro |
| 02:56.16 | makiren | but, the end result is going to be an addon |
| 02:56.21 | KarlKFI | you need an addon |
| 02:56.38 | makiren | since I coudldnt find a list of all critter ID's i'm making my own |
| 02:58.34 | makiren | being the impaient person I am, I havent sat down to start that the beginning of lua |
| 02:59.20 | KarlKFI | you prolly want to make your own edit box if you want to be able to copy from it |
| 02:59.38 | KarlKFI | or print to the exisitng edit box if it's onyl 1 line |
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| 03:02.02 | makiren | thanks, thats pretty much what I figured |
| 03:02.50 | Kraps | "Hey Commander, we got Garrus back! Thats great because he was my favorite, with that pole up his ass." |
| 03:03.03 | makiren | the whole run script, tab, retype info, tab |
| 03:03.06 | makiren | was getting old |
| 03:03.47 | kd3 | whee; driving home on roads that have been snowed on, freezing-rained on, then thawed and refrozen, all without getting touched by a plow... |
| 03:03.48 | kd3 | fun stuff |
| 03:03.57 | kd3 | wonders how many miles he took off his tires |
| 03:04.06 | makiren | sounds like how our roads were monday |
| 03:09.01 | xterm | How do I use a for loop to run through objects under a naming convention like 'object1button' 'object2button'? |
| 03:10.53 | kd3 | for i=1,5 do local o=_G["object"..i.."button"] o.doSomething() end |
| 03:10.57 | kd3 | iirc |
| 03:11.15 | xterm | thanks |
| 03:11.16 | KarlKFI | provided they're global |
| 03:11.33 | KarlKFI | otherwise you have to get the local scope |
| 03:11.46 | KarlKFI | but chances are you mean frames |
| 03:11.56 | KarlKFI | which have global names |
| 03:12.22 | xterm | i'm attempting to check checkboxes from an xml frame |
| 03:18.31 | Thunder_Child | anyone know how to trigger steams 'first time setup' for a game? |
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| 03:34.24 | KarlKFI | what's the easiest way to detect which chat frame is your combat log? |
| 03:34.50 | kd3 | if (ChatFrame2 ~= null) ? |
| 03:34.53 | KarlKFI | is it always ChatFrame2? |
| 03:35.09 | kd3 | afaik yes. I've never been able to figure out how to put it on, say, 3 or 4 |
| 03:42.24 | KarlKFI | cute: COMBATLOG = ChatFrame2; |
| 03:42.36 | KarlKFI | in Blizzard_CombatLog.lua |
| 03:42.57 | Arrowmaster | followed by local COMBATLOG = COMBATLOG |
| 03:43.18 | Arrowmaster | the bane of one of my greated hack jobs ever |
| 03:43.43 | KarlKFI | blame alex |
| 03:43.50 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 03:44.02 | Arrowmaster | i also personally asked zoot to remove it |
| 03:44.03 | KarlKFI | i like the description "This is a prototype combat log" |
| 03:44.18 | kd3 | so, it's been a prototype since 2.4? |
| 03:44.20 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:45.07 | foxlit | just close the entire thing |
| 03:45.14 | foxlit | and nuke the original implementation if you have to |
| 03:53.57 | KarlKFI | what's the best way to trim a lua array to a certain max size? |
| 03:56.23 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle <- interesting stuff |
| 03:56.39 | mckenziemc | along with the Power Law page |
| 03:57.52 | mckenziemc | for k,v in pairs(array) do if type(k) ~= 'number' or k > maxIndex then array[k] = nil end end |
| 03:58.46 | mckenziemc | KarlKFI: ^ |
| 03:59.00 | KarlKFI | that's one way |
| 03:59.09 | KarlKFI | but that's O(n) |
| 03:59.15 | mckenziemc | i can't think of anything simpler |
| 03:59.18 | KarlKFI | so definitely not the fastest |
| 03:59.50 | kd3 | but O(n)'s nothing to turn your nose up at. how often are you going to be truncating arrays? |
| 03:59.55 | mckenziemc | it's stored as a hash table internally so you have to check each value anyway afaik |
| 04:00.25 | Jerub | there's another way |
| 04:00.32 | KarlKFI | if n was the array size and m was the new size you could do O(n-m) without too much trouble |
| 04:00.47 | Jerub | truncating an array will cost O(N) where N is the number of elements in the old array. |
| 04:01.09 | KarlKFI | this isn't a real array tho, it's a lua array |
| 04:01.16 | Jerub | if you want to truncate to a max value you can do it in O(M) where M is the number of elements you want to keep, by making a new array and copying in elements. |
| 04:01.21 | KarlKFI | how it's stored is relatively irrelevant |
| 04:01.40 | Jerub | which, technically, is O(1) if the max value doesn't change. |
| 04:02.00 | KarlKFI | O(n-m) is prolly faster in most of my cases |
| 04:02.11 | Jerub | and has strictly better time complexity than mckenziemc's soln |
| 04:02.22 | mckenziemc | Jerub: you can't get low-level access to do that, though |
| 04:02.36 | KarlKFI | right, i cant just do an array copy |
| 04:02.51 | mckenziemc | all you can do is traverse the table until you've filled x items, then break early. so a partial benefit |
| 04:02.52 | Jerub | mckenziemc: sure you can. create a new table, and iterate through the numbers from 0-max, then put that in the old array's place. |
| 04:03.07 | KarlKFI | that's definitely more expensive |
| 04:03.19 | KarlKFI | because of the way lua stores tables |
| 04:03.36 | Jerub | why is it more expensive? mckenziemc just stated a solution that required visiting every element of the table, instead of visiting less than or equal to the number of elements? |
| 04:03.41 | KarlKFI | it's most likely cheeper and faster to remove elements |
| 04:03.43 | foxlit | trimmed = {unpack(t, 1, max)} |
| 04:03.48 | mckenziemc | Jerub, i believe for i=1,table.maxn(t) actually takes longer than for k in pairs(t) |
| 04:03.49 | Jerub | oh, creating a new table is expensive? |
| 04:03.52 | mckenziemc | no |
| 04:04.13 | KarlKFI | it's not expensive, it's just more expensive than an array copy |
| 04:04.16 | Jerub | mckenziemc: um, you don't need the table's max |
| 04:04.17 | mckenziemc | because when you do for i=1,m lua starts its search from scratch each time |
| 04:04.21 | mckenziemc | actually, maybe not |
| 04:04.32 | Jerub | you need the number you're truncating to |
| 04:05.02 | KarlKFI | that would work foxlit, tho i'm not sure it's the best way |
| 04:05.18 | foxlit | KarlKFI: your problem is sufficiently boring |
| 04:05.20 | mckenziemc | lua> os.time() |
| 04:05.21 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: 1294891052 |
| 04:05.36 | foxlit | for i=m+1,#t do t[i] = nil; end |
| 04:05.43 | foxlit | and then stop thinking about it :) |
| 04:05.52 | mckenziemc | Jerub: it depends on how it's stored internally |
| 04:06.06 | mckenziemc | i actually think yours will be quicker based on what i've heard, come to think of it |
| 04:06.09 | KarlKFI | yup thats what i was initially thinkign foxlit |
| 04:06.14 | KarlKFI | just wondering if it's best |
| 04:06.49 | Slaren | if performance is so important then just measure it |
| 04:06.55 | mckenziemc | but consider if the table used a linked list: when you did 'for i=1,n --[[access t[n] and do stuff' you'd be doing a sequential search each time |
| 04:07.12 | foxlit | there's also a difference between trimming a million entry array down to one entry |
| 04:07.15 | KarlKFI | for example... if i use table.insert or tinsert, doesn't it store maxn so it doesn't have to iterate to the end? |
| 04:07.35 | foxlit | and trimming a million entry array down to a million - 1 entres |
| 04:07.37 | mckenziemc | so for i=1,10 would take the same amount of time as doing 'for k in pairs(t) --[[do same stuff]] end' five times |
| 04:07.38 | KarlKFI | so if i remove via hash how does that effect the next table.insert |
| 04:08.01 | foxlit | as long as you don't do table.insert while you're trimming |
| 04:08.21 | KarlKFI | generally safe, since it's not multithreaded |
| 04:08.25 | foxlit | the behavior should be what you would expect after you're done. |
| 04:08.34 | KarlKFI | hopefully |
| 04:09.56 | foxlit | teehee |
| 04:10.33 | foxlit | without resorting to using Lua, evaluate 16/8/2 and 2^3^4 in Lua. |
| 04:10.50 | KarlKFI | i'll pass |
| 04:11.43 | foxlit | Fine, multiple choice then: is the latter equal to 8^4 or 2^16? |
| 04:12.03 | KarlKFI | how about this |
| 04:12.12 | KarlKFI | what if i want to remove from the front and shift down |
| 04:12.20 | KarlKFI | what's the best way to do that |
| 04:12.23 | Shirik | foxlit: 2^16 |
| 04:12.27 | Shirik | wait |
| 04:12.29 | Shirik | no |
| 04:12.38 | Shirik | you cheated |
| 04:12.44 | Shirik | it's 2^12 |
| 04:12.45 | mckenziemc | got to apply the 4 to the 3 first iirc |
| 04:12.59 | mckenziemc | err what Shirik said |
| 04:12.59 | foxlit | s/2^16/2^81/ |
| 04:13.04 | KarlKFI | the unpack is prolly fastest, huh |
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| 04:13.16 | Shirik | lua> 2^12 == 8^4 |
| 04:13.17 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 04:13.21 | Shirik | you are such a cheater |
| 04:13.25 | Shirik | playing psychological games |
| 04:13.40 | foxlit | lua> 2^3^4 |
| 04:13.41 | lua_bot | foxlit: 2.4178516392293e+24 |
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| 04:14.31 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:14.35 | Shirik | ^ is not right-to-left? |
| 04:14.54 | foxlit | "The concatenation ('..') and exponentiation ('^') operators are right associative. All other binary operators are left associative." |
| 04:15.10 | KarlKFI | lulz |
| 04:15.15 | Shirik | so it's lying? |
| 04:15.22 | foxlit | so it's correct |
| 04:15.28 | Shirik | 3^4 comes first |
| 04:15.43 | Shirik | wait |
| 04:15.45 | KarlKFI | lua> 2^(3^4) |
| 04:15.45 | lua_bot | KarlKFI: 2.4178516392293e+24 |
| 04:15.46 | foxlit | 2^3^4 == 2^(3^4) == 2^(27*3) == |
| 04:15.50 | Shirik | ow |
| 04:15.53 | Shirik | my brain exploded |
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| 04:17.06 | foxlit | [The section on operator precedence is right beneat the section on the length operator in the Lua reference manual, in case you're wondering why that suddenly entered the conversation] |
| 04:17.07 | mckenziemc | lua> n=0; function f()end; t={}; for i=1,100 do t[i]=i; T=os.time; start=T()+1; stop=start+1; while T()<start do end; while T()<stop do f(t[(n%100)+1]); n=n+1 end; return n |
| 04:17.07 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 04:17.26 | Shirik | !quit *.net *.split |
| 04:17.30 | Shirik | hm |
| 04:17.30 | mckenziemc | lua> n=0; function f()end; t={}; for i=1,100 do t[i]=i; T=os.time; start=T()+1; stop=start+1; while T()<start do end; while T()<stop do f(t[(n%100)+1]); n=n+1 end end; return n |
| 04:17.36 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
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| 04:17.43 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 04:17.48 | mckenziemc | facepalms at lua_bot |
| 04:18.05 | mckenziemc | wtb more granular time from lua_bot |
| 04:19.54 | foxlit | it's your code, not the bot |
| 04:20.18 | foxlit | lua interpreter doesn't like you eithre. |
| 04:20.27 | mckenziemc | huh |
| 04:20.39 | mckenziemc | the point of it was to see how many iterations it would do within one second |
| 04:20.53 | KarlKFI | how does the combat log populate messages backwards... |
| 04:21.11 | Arrowmaster | argument to addmessage |
| 04:21.31 | KarlKFI | good to know |
| 04:21.41 | foxlit | mckenziemc: and you want to do that a hundred times? |
| 04:21.53 | foxlit | mckenziemc: How long would that take? |
| 04:21.58 | mckenziemc | no |
| 04:22.09 | mckenziemc | 1,100 is a subsection |
| 04:22.22 | mckenziemc | it goes 1-100 over and over and over, till 1 second is up |
| 04:22.55 | mckenziemc | unless i mistyped something |
| 04:23.02 | foxlit | Look at your code. Now back to me. Now back to your code. Your code is now fixed. |
| 04:23.22 | mckenziemc | look at my code |
| 04:23.33 | foxlit | [It's not, but I couldn't think of a better fourth line.] |
| 04:23.34 | KarlKFI | so we're sposed ot use tinsert not table.insert, right? |
| 04:24.01 | KarlKFI | implemented in c maybe? |
| 04:24.09 | foxlit | It doesn't make (much) of a difference |
| 04:24.16 | mckenziemc | lua> stop = os.time()+2; while os.time() < stop do end |
| 04:24.17 | foxlit | tinsert == table.insert, iirc |
| 04:24.18 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: No output |
| 04:24.41 | KarlKFI | i was under the impressiont hat in wow tinsert was a c function, not a lua shortcut |
| 04:24.53 | foxlit | table.insert is a C function too. |
| 04:25.01 | KarlKFI | orly |
| 04:25.08 | foxlit | yarly! |
| 04:25.16 | KarlKFI | so... it just has an extra table lookup |
| 04:25.52 | Shirik | Just /dump table.insert==tinsert and behold |
| 04:25.59 | KarlKFI | :( |
| 04:26.06 | KarlKFI | you and your logic |
| 04:26.07 | mckenziemc | hmm i guess it -was- wrong, i just froze WoW : / |
| 04:26.08 | foxlit | However, unless you need the insert-in-the-middle behavior of table.insert, just keep a running index if you're inserting stuff |
| 04:26.23 | foxlit | mckenziemc: it'll unfreeze in 200 seconds. |
| 04:26.28 | KarlKFI | unfortunetly in this case i cant |
| 04:26.38 | foxlit | you'll be disconnected, but who cares? :) |
| 04:26.53 | KarlKFI | is that the mac or pc timeout? |
| 04:26.59 | KarlKFI | pretty sure they're different |
| 04:27.00 | mckenziemc | what's wrong with my code though |
| 04:27.03 | mckenziemc | i don't see the issue : / |
| 04:27.16 | mckenziemc | Karl: i think he's saying that's how long my code will run |
| 04:27.30 | KarlKFI | no. it's the connection timeout |
| 04:27.31 | mckenziemc | oh wow |
| 04:27.36 | mckenziemc | put the end in the wrong place : / |
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| 04:28.40 | mckenziemc | lua> n=0; function f()end; t={}; for i=1,100 do t[i]=i end; T=os.time; start=T()+1; stop=start+1; while T()<start do end; while T()<stop do f(t[(n%100)+1]); n=n+1 end; return n |
| 04:28.42 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: 1041813 |
| 04:28.46 | mckenziemc | yay |
| 04:29.52 | mckenziemc | lua> n=0; function f()end; t={}; for i=1,100 do t[i]=i end; T=os.time; start=T()+1; stop=start+1; while T()<start do end; while T()<stop do for k in pairs(t) do f(k) end; n=n+1 end; return n |
| 04:29.54 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: 48820 |
| 04:29.58 | KarlKFI | i dont spose negative index work in tremove |
| 04:30.33 | mckenziemc | bah messed up again |
| 04:31.02 | mckenziemc | i need to do this in wow so i stop messing up >< lack of newlines is so confusing |
| 04:33.35 | Kraps | new stuff |
| 04:33.37 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2011384 |
| 04:34.14 | clever | Arrowmaster: i think i found my proble, the sound-theme-freedesktop package isnt installed |
| 04:34.21 | foxlit | jan 12, Kraps? |
| 04:34.38 | Kraps | foxlit: yeah? |
| 04:35.14 | Kraps | they should have a diff |
| 04:35.15 | foxlit | I'm glancing at the clock saying it's the 13th now; but that's timezone stuff. I should sleep. |
| 04:35.41 | kd3 | sigh |
| 04:35.46 | kd3 | pulls up a diff and gets to work |
| 04:36.04 | Kraps | cheers at kd3 |
| 04:36.27 | KarlKFI | does scroll to top not work for anyone else ont he combat log? |
| 04:37.06 | foxlit | hm, need to start a hatebook.com , offering websites to put "hate (thumbs down)" buttons alongside their like counters. |
| 04:38.23 | Kraps | kd3: where is your stuff shown? |
| 04:38.55 | kd3 | I'll have it up on wowpedia in a minute; linky here shortly thereafter |
| 04:39.34 | clever | Arrowmaster: nope |
| 04:45.46 | mckenziemc | 'Shapeshifts: Entering or leaving a shapeshift no longer cancels root effects. It continues to cancel movement slowing effects.' o.O |
| 04:47.07 | mckenziemc | 'Hunters can now use Auto Shot while moving.' <-- that's gonna be fun regarding accidental pulls |
| 04:47.25 | foxlit | hunters already pull like crazy |
| 04:47.57 | mckenziemc | i usually hit a movement key if i realize i targeted something i don't want to pull |
| 04:48.12 | mckenziemc | since it's quicker than hitting escape |
| 04:48.38 | mckenziemc | guess i'll have to find that macro that changes autotarget distance |
| 04:49.00 | foxlit | doesn't exist. |
| 04:49.14 | foxlit | I'm almost convinced it's Steady Shot that is to blame for it somehow. |
| 04:49.17 | foxlit | Anyway, good morning |
| 04:49.25 | mckenziemc | there was a cvar i saw in a rogue macro somewhere |
| 04:49.51 | foxlit | removed an aeon ago. |
| 04:49.59 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 04:50.40 | Shirik | just throwing thsi out there months early |
| 04:51.10 | mckenziemc | 'Flame Orb now ignores critters.' awww |
| 04:51.34 | Shirik | When this whole flooding fiasco subsides |
| 04:51.48 | Shirik | Someone's going to point it back at global warming |
| 04:52.54 | foxlit | why wait? |
| 04:53.06 | kd3 | waits for the page to submit |
| 04:53.19 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Patch_4.0.6&diff=2594935&oldid=2594053 |
| 04:53.24 | kd3 | updates in today's patch notes |
| 04:57.16 | foxlit | "**Gilgoblin Poisoned Spear impact damage has been reduced slightly." |
| 04:57.24 | foxlit | trash packs of doom: nerfed! |
| 04:57.29 | kd3 | yay |
| 04:57.37 | kd3 | maybe I'll run TotT again |
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| 05:09.46 | Xyphoid | raidwide mana totem, nice |
| 05:09.50 | Xyphoid | er, tide |
| 05:10.12 | foxlit | boo. hiss. |
| 05:10.17 | foxlit | This can only end in tears. |
| 05:10.31 | foxlit | Or resto shaman stacking. But definitely tears later. |
| 05:11.00 | Xyphoid | well, it got the nerf while it was at it, so we'll see |
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| 05:37.42 | Shirik | Haha kd3 |
| 05:37.46 | Shirik | 12 Jan: *[[Steady Shot]] cast time is now affected by haste. |
| 05:37.53 | Shirik | 13 Jan: We changed our minds |
| 05:39.39 | kd3 | if the hunter forums haven't bus-shocked someone yet, I'm going to be impressed |
| 05:43.39 | Shirik | I'm ok with the holy priest changes I think |
| 05:43.49 | Shirik | I accept that holy priests are presently OP and I don't think we're being nerfed too hard |
| 05:44.04 | Shirik | they're also throwing us some nice stuff by reducing the cost of renew and boosting coh |
| 05:44.24 | Shirik | the only thing I hate is they're making one of our talents virtually useless |
| 05:44.30 | Shirik | one of our deepest talents |
| 05:47.13 | Cide1 | indeed |
| 05:47.17 | Cide1 | also holy priests are op |
| 05:47.31 | Cide1 | our single target healing is superior to both shamans and druids |
| 05:47.36 | Cide1 | and also our raid healing |
| 05:51.38 | Shirik | mastery omg <333333333333333 |
| 05:51.48 | Shirik | I still can't get over that |
| 05:51.48 | Cide1 | I got tier gloves tonight |
| 05:51.50 | Cide1 | with mastery <3 |
| 05:51.52 | Shirik | Dude |
| 05:51.57 | Shirik | Our 2 piece bonus is so stupid |
| 05:52.01 | Cide1 | yeah |
| 05:52.04 | Cide1 | but 4 piece is nice |
| 05:54.31 | Shirik | I remember saying that but I forget what it was |
| 05:56.24 | Stanzilla | ~540mp5 |
| 05:56.44 | Cide1 | being in chakra gives 540 spirit |
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| 06:03.12 | Wobin | whaaaaaaaaaaaat * Shapeshifts: Entering or leaving a shapeshift no longer cancels root effects. It continues to cancel movement slowing effects. |
| 06:03.16 | Wobin | =( |
| 06:04.13 | Toriad | Hey any rogues around? |
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| 06:05.44 | Shirik | oh right Cide1 |
| 06:05.47 | Shirik | yeah that's nice |
| 06:05.51 | Shirik | wtf |
| 06:05.52 | Shirik | come back here |
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| 06:10.20 | airtonix | hello fellow sail boat users |
| 06:11.27 | Shirik | Are you on a boat? |
| 06:16.05 | NiLon | I'm on a boat motherfucker |
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| 06:30.18 | Shirik | I just learned a new SQL keyword today |
| 06:30.21 | Shirik | "HAVING" |
| 06:31.39 | KarlKFI | an evil one |
| 06:31.48 | Shirik | I don't have another option |
| 06:31.49 | KarlKFI | with great power comes great responsibility |
| 06:31.52 | Shirik | I ran out of disk space on my last query :( |
| 06:31.56 | Shirik | I have to trim it down somehow |
| 06:32.08 | Shirik | COUNT(DISTINCT) sucks |
| 06:32.43 | KarlKFI | so why did they change the chat frame to resize mac style instead of windows style it used before? |
| 06:32.48 | Shirik | !quit *.net *.split |
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| 08:10.25 | tejing | This may seem like a simple question, but it doesn't seem to be covered in the lua reference. How to you assign only the second return value of a function, throwing away the first return value? |
| 08:11.01 | cbreak_work | tejing: local ignoredvar, second = ... |
| 08:11.04 | cbreak_work | just ignore the first |
| 08:11.12 | cbreak_work | you can call it _ or so |
| 08:11.18 | cbreak_work | or you can use select() |
| 08:11.21 | cbreak_work | but I'd not do that |
| 08:11.37 | Shirik | no |
| 08:11.42 | Shirik | select is evil |
| 08:11.51 | Shirik | even though I just used it like 5 minutes ago |
| 08:11.52 | Shirik | it's evil |
| 08:12.02 | tejing | is using _ common practice? |
| 08:12.09 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:12.13 | tejing | kk |
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| 08:20.22 | Fisker | ok Shirik |
| 08:20.23 | Fisker | get this |
| 08:20.28 | Fisker | i have 3 return values |
| 08:20.47 | Fisker | and i only want to assign the third return value |
| 08:20.48 | Fisker | bam |
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| 08:31.47 | KarlKFI | :-) ChatEdit lives! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5438-ChatEdit.html |
| 08:32.12 | Kalroth | omg |
| 08:32.49 | Kalroth | I missed that functionality so much |
| 08:32.51 | KarlKFI | it required more work than I realized. |
| 08:41.40 | zenzio | KarlKFI: that's neat :) |
| 08:42.14 | KarlKFI | yeah, closest i could come to just being able to select it |
| 08:42.31 | Dagmar | The Bioshock thing at Windshear Hold is just creepy |
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| 08:44.16 | mitch0 | hohum. nerfs |
| 08:44.23 | industrial | buffs. |
| 08:44.34 | industrial | lava lash SP based -> AP based |
| 08:44.38 | industrial | LOL40kcrits inc? |
| 08:44.45 | industrial | Mine is at 30 now ... |
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| 09:30.50 | Shirik | ~weather KPDX |
| 09:35.28 | mitch0 | anyone knows if the lvl80 heirloom items that grant xp bonus continue to do so after 80? do they work for 81-85 quests, too? if so, when is the bonus xp calculated? yesterday I tested it a bit and at quest turn-in it didn't change the amount of xp gained |
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| 09:36.28 | Shirik | hugs Cairenn |
| 09:36.36 | Cairenn | hugs Shirik |
| 09:36.50 | DJJeff | wow servers are starting to crash |
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| 09:38.07 | Shirik | DJJeff? |
| 09:38.22 | Kalroth | Shirik? |
| 09:38.30 | DJJeff | wow servers are starting to crash |
| 09:38.37 | Kalroth | DJJeff? |
| 09:38.38 | Shirik | how do you figure |
| 09:38.47 | DJJeff | my server just went boom |
| 09:38.53 | DJJeff | Windrunner-US |
| 09:39.06 | Shirik | Windrunner-US is all servers? |
| 09:39.18 | DJJeff | mid way thru tol vir the lost city |
| 09:39.23 | DJJeff | loot lag |
| 09:39.27 | DJJeff | couldnt leave grp |
| 09:39.30 | DJJeff | couldnt die |
| 09:39.42 | DJJeff | couldnt zone out |
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| 09:40.32 | mitch0 | try /quit. that usually works |
| 09:41.55 | Shirik | hey Kalroth want to see something awesome? |
| 09:41.58 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c64d4acbbfa50670c26cb5d04d9d0975.png |
| 09:42.02 | Kalroth | boobies? |
| 09:42.03 | Shirik | I gots the bling bling |
| 09:42.28 | Kalroth | thats a lot of cut gems |
| 09:42.40 | Shirik | I don't even have a JC |
| 09:42.49 | Kalroth | i wish i had the patience to play with AH, i got like 40x of every blue gem by now |
| 09:42.52 | Kalroth | I got two JC :P |
| 09:43.02 | Shirik | I just buy off the stupid JCs |
| 09:43.04 | Shirik | and sell |
| 09:43.14 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I'm the only thing keeping teh market from crashing |
| 09:43.22 | Shirik | Over a week the prices will drop on a particular gem from 80g to 10g |
| 09:43.28 | Shirik | then I'll buy the entire market out and reset it at about 120g |
| 09:43.32 | Shirik | and it will happen again |
| 09:43.39 | Shirik | but they still sell at that high price so I'm making money |
| 09:43.48 | Shirik | Unfortunately I'm also accumulating way too many gems |
| 09:43.50 | Kalroth | yeah, some gems go from 190g to 60g on my server |
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| 10:00.04 | Adys | shirik holy shit |
| 10:00.08 | Adys | what are you playing on |
| 10:00.11 | Adys | a laptop? |
| 10:00.16 | Adys | a netbook? |
| 10:00.17 | Adys | a phone? |
| 10:00.34 | Adys | ive seen tamagotchis with larger resolution than that |
| 10:00.42 | Dagmar | lol |
| 10:01.39 | zenzio | why do you have player names enabled? |
| 10:01.55 | zenzio | or NPC names for that matter |
| 10:02.11 | zenzio | I turned those off years ago, and WoW felt so much cleaner |
| 10:03.50 | Adys | have fun in pvp zenzelezz |
| 10:04.22 | zenzio | looks at his HK counter |
| 10:04.39 | zenzio | which would read 0 since 2006 still, if it wasn't for my stupid former raid guild |
| 10:04.55 | zenzio | I'd still turn the names off in cities if I did PvP |
| 10:05.46 | Adys | what if you did pvp in cities |
| 10:05.49 | Adys | WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN!? |
| 10:06.26 | zenzio | quite a conundrum! |
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| 10:53.07 | amro | Shirik: lies! |
| 10:53.49 | airtonix | very rarely |
| 10:54.01 | ProNihilist | turn off allied player names and mob names, leave enemy player names on |
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| 11:01.14 | mitch0 | that new "show red nameplates of quest mobs" thing tricked me a while back. I was in some area where you are disguised as some viking maiden, and I was on a quest to challenge some of them. one of them had red nameplate, so I charged. turned out it was a lvl85 paladin idling there :) (I was lvl80) |
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| 11:12.39 | Zyn | had guildmates do the same |
| 11:12.57 | Zyn | "oh a rare I think *pewpew* ... eh huh, was an orc warrior" |
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| 11:14.34 | cbreak_work | has all names turned off in the world frame |
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| 11:48.31 | Mikk | omg you can hide in bushes around cbreak |
| 11:48.41 | Mikk | surprise gnome pvp |
| 11:49.14 | Fisker | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) at 3701MHz (18% Load) |
| 11:49.59 | airtonix | Fisker, your lion vs my tuna |
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| 11:54.54 | Computerpunk | Hmmm, how to bypass interface action failed because of an addon when calling :Show() method of a window which contains a secure action button inherited frame? |
| 11:55.30 | Computerpunk | (It happens in combat) |
| 11:55.50 | airtonix | dont do it in combat |
| 11:56.48 | Computerpunk | What if I need to? |
| 11:57.11 | A-KO | Shapeshifts: Entering or leaving a shapeshift no longer cancels root effects. It continues to cancel movement slowing effects. |
| 11:57.12 | A-KO | wow |
| 11:57.31 | Kalroth | woot |
| 11:57.39 | Kalroth | druid nerfs best nerfs |
| 11:57.46 | airtonix | yeaboi |
| 11:57.49 | Kalroth | Fisker: overclocking it yet? |
| 11:58.49 | Computerpunk | So, I can't? |
| 12:00.00 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.03 | Computerpunk | airtonix, would attaching the button to the window, but not as a child work? |
| 12:00.05 | Fisker | still running stock |
| 12:00.18 | Kalroth | Fisker: stock cooler is fine up to 4.0 GHz though! |
| 12:00.23 | Kalroth | (and more) |
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| 12:00.40 | Fisker | currently it manages to annoy me audiowise |
| 12:00.57 | Fisker | so if it can do 4GHz then i don't want to hear it :P |
| 12:01.05 | Kalroth | that bad? :) |
| 12:01.11 | Fisker | it's not bad |
| 12:01.13 | Fisker | just noticable |
| 12:02.56 | airtonix | maybe you should dump it in oil |
| 12:03.17 | airtonix | and get a peltzier cooled radiator |
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| 12:18.46 | p3lim | Running WoW under wine, is there something (like settings or whatever) that is important to change? |
| 12:20.57 | Computerpunk | airtonix, you could've told me to register PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED when player is in InCombatLockdown and call my stuff when the event fires. |
| 12:20.58 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 12:22.58 | p3lim | Fisker: You can push that baby to 4.5 or more with the stock cooler |
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| 12:23.39 | p3lim | Computerpunk: use SetAlpha instead |
| 12:23.41 | Kalroth | anand reached 4.4 before it got unstable |
| 12:23.51 | airtonix | p3lim, i usually create application specific registry settings |
| 12:24.18 | Computerpunk | p3lim, meh. |
| 12:24.27 | Computerpunk | Setting alpha wouldn't make it click-through. |
| 12:24.48 | p3lim | :EnableMouse(false) |
| 12:25.02 | p3lim | Its what I use on secure buttons/frames atleast |
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| 12:32.08 | p3lim | airtonix: anything specific I should use? |
| 12:35.45 | airtonix | p3lim, you've done the usual things like specify how much video mem your card has and what framebuffer to use ? |
| 12:37.43 | p3lim | airtonix: nothing, just started the launcher so it can download :p |
| 12:38.04 | airtonix | it's been a year since i've played it but i'd try most of what's written here : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20549 |
| 12:38.09 | p3lim | some wiki suggested I should use opengl instead of direct3d tho |
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| 12:49.04 | p3lim | so far I cannot set the window size, it forces to use both my screen (no other options), I can barely set any advanced video settings because it can't find out what videocard I have |
| 12:58.48 | jnwhiteh | Some knowledge-base articles for the git integration on Wowinterface, for those who use it: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=git |
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| 13:00.04 | d[karl]b | super basic question, how can i make lua pause for 7 seconds? |
| 13:00.54 | jnwhiteh | you don't |
| 13:00.55 | krka | you can't |
| 13:01.18 | d[karl]b | ok then if i wanted to make a macro alert me to something in 7 seconds how can i do that |
| 13:01.47 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Create_a_mini-timer_using_OnUpdate_3 |
| 13:01.49 | jnwhiteh | may help you |
| 13:01.58 | d[karl]b | see this is why i love you |
| 13:02.04 | jnwhiteh | well it snot really an answer |
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| 13:02.10 | jnwhiteh | it just gives you a technique to do part of what you want |
| 13:02.12 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 13:02.51 | Frisker | rage jnwhiteh |
| 13:04.24 | Frisker | my remote desktop service crashed or some sillynes :< |
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| 13:05.41 | Adys | !api setrole |
| 13:05.42 | lua_bot | UnitSetRole: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitSetRole) |
| 13:09.43 | p3lim | d[karl]b: I belive there is an addon that adds a /wait command or something |
| 13:10.00 | jnwhiteh | aye, I'm sure there's one |
| 13:10.00 | p3lim | perhaps it was /in |
| 13:10.07 | jnwhiteh | Chronos used to |
| 13:10.10 | p3lim | Yeah |
| 13:11.29 | Adys | !api UnitGroupRolesAssigned |
| 13:11.29 | lua_bot | UnitGroupRolesAssigned: Returns information about a unit's role in a LFD party (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitGroupRolesAssigned) |
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| 13:31.34 | airtonix | Fisker, hoho |
| 13:32.43 | Kalroth | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/011211-html5-microsoft-google.html ze fight is on! |
| 13:35.57 | d[karl]b | question: in a 2/3 tank situation should druids be trying to keep lifebloom up on all 3? |
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| 13:52.23 | alestane | cuddles Cairenn 'cause, well, cuddles. |
| 13:54.19 | foxlit | no |
| 13:54.26 | foxlit | d[karl]b: that'll also be made impossible |
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| 14:03.38 | Kraps | Improved Power Word: Shield change reverted |
| 14:03.51 | Kraps | oh blizzard you silly goose |
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| 14:07.38 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:08.20 | Kraps | gas |
| 14:14.37 | Cairenn | snuggles alestane |
| 14:14.58 | Cairenn | (sorry, had a kitteh in my lap, couldn't get at my keyboard) |
| 14:16.03 | alestane | I will forgive slow snuggles on behalf of kitties. |
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| 14:16.17 | Cairenn | :) |
| 14:16.24 | alestane | What kitteh is this now? |
| 14:16.32 | Cairenn | DJ |
| 14:16.37 | Cairenn | he's still missing Siren |
| 14:16.41 | alestane | Had him before? |
| 14:16.45 | Cairenn | aye |
| 14:17.04 | Cairenn | actually got him before Siren, but he's younger |
| 14:17.13 | Cairenn | (we always adopt from the shelters) |
| 14:17.16 | alestane | Everyone misses her together, then. This is healthy. |
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| 14:19.36 | Lunessa | Migrane, day 2 - pain was manageable, so I'm in the office but... BLEARGH. |
| 14:19.47 | Cairenn | comforts Lunessa |
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| 14:28.25 | bluspacecow | greetings oh lunny one .... and caireen |
| 14:29.51 | Cairenn | hi bluspacecow |
| 14:31.50 | Ackis | coughs all over Cairenn |
| 14:32.04 | Cairenn | hands Ackis some kleenex |
| 14:32.13 | Lunessa | hands Cairenn an antiseptic wipe. |
| 14:32.18 | Ackis | I'm still sick :( been sick since Christmas :( |
| 14:32.27 | Cairenn | that's yucky |
| 14:32.36 | Cairenn | I was sick for the entire month of Nov |
| 14:32.38 | Lunessa | Ackis: Have you not been to a doctor and been pumped full of medicines yet? |
| 14:32.59 | Cairenn | and, what he said! ^^ |
| 14:33.01 | Ackis | twice |
| 14:33.10 | Ackis | I did my entire course of anti-biotics |
| 14:33.15 | Ackis | missed 2 weeks of work |
| 14:33.26 | Ackis | (2 weeks turned out to be 6 working days yay for stat holidays) |
| 14:34.10 | Lunessa | Then if you're still sick, something else is wrong. Usually a lingering cold/cough turns out to be pneumonia or something nasty like that and you should go back and tell the doctor you're not getting well. |
| 14:34.38 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 14:35.14 | bluspacecow | we don't want you to die before we can beat your high score in ping pong ! |
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| 14:36.13 | Lunessa | You could have stopped at "we don't want you to doe." |
| 14:36.16 | Lunessa | er, die |
| 14:36.43 | amro | we don't want him to doe either |
| 14:36.53 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 14:37.01 | bluspacecow | he would look good as a female deer |
| 14:37.04 | Thunder_Child | this is mini 4chan Lunessa, we cant be nice here |
| 14:37.12 | Ackis | I'm not sure if it's the meds I'm on but I've been sweating like a pig each night |
| 14:37.21 | Lunessa | Really? Fuck you then Thunder_Child. |
| 14:37.26 | Thunder_Child | do pigs sweat? |
| 14:37.33 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: uh, isnt that normal? |
| 14:38.10 | Lunessa | No, not really. Most of the time I just wonder what you're like drunk and if we could get compromising pictures of you in that satte. |
| 14:38.25 | Thunder_Child | it would have to be video |
| 14:38.37 | Thunder_Child | i'm just louder thatn usual when drunk |
| 14:38.40 | Thunder_Child | than* |
| 14:39.07 | Cairenn | is just really glad you guys /didn't/ take advantage and get pics of me while I was smashed this year |
| 14:39.12 | Lunessa | Where's the fun in that? I mean at least Arrowmaster gets all huggy. |
| 14:39.21 | Thunder_Child | thats because i didnt go to the curse thing |
| 14:39.23 | Cairenn | giggles |
| 14:39.28 | Cairenn | he was funny |
| 14:39.36 | Maldivia | Cairenn: and how do you know they didn't ? |
| 14:39.53 | Cairenn | if they had, they'd be all over the 'net by now |
| 14:39.54 | amro | bonks Maldivia |
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| 14:39.55 | amro | shh! |
| 14:40.33 | Lunessa | Maldivia: and Dolby, Kaelten, Iriel or myself would have slaughtered anyone trying? |
| 14:40.43 | Cairenn | that too |
| 14:40.47 | Kalroth | so no pics? :( |
| 14:40.50 | Kalroth | ffffff |
| 14:40.50 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 14:41.05 | Thunder_Child | well, there is maybe the security cams at the club |
| 14:41.07 | Maldivia | Lunessa: depends on the price, I guess...? :) |
| 14:41.32 | Lunessa | Nah, she was pretty sober at the Curse party. |
| 14:42.07 | Cairenn | for all you guys pretend to be a bunch of big jerks, you're all actually pretty decent guys, not taking advantage of my bad situation |
| 14:42.25 | Cairenn | but it's okay, I won't tell anyone and ruin your street cred |
| 14:42.58 | Lunessa | ... Wait, I have street cred? |
| 14:43.07 | Thunder_Child | nah, they were just being jerks to other people and missed you |
| 14:43.39 | Kalroth | Cairenn: Most people are only assholes on the internet! |
| 14:43.41 | Thunder_Child | i hope DAII turns out to be better than DA:O |
| 14:43.56 | Cairenn | Kalroth: indeed |
| 14:44.04 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: Well DA:O should have been a DLC, not an expansion (imo!) |
| 14:45.48 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth: DLC to what? |
| 14:46.06 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/asiansanddeer.jpg |
| 14:46.29 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: DA |
| 14:46.35 | amro | I need to stop clicking mikma's links |
| 14:46.41 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:47.01 | mikma | amro: "haste:" means nsfs |
| 14:47.17 | amro | nsfs? not safe for sanity? |
| 14:47.29 | mikma | ~nsfs |
| 14:47.29 | purl | nsfs is, like, not safe for shirik |
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| 14:52.48 | Fisker | Kalroth i am |
| 14:53.23 | mikma | Shapeshifts: Entering or leaving a shapeshift no longer cancels root effects. It continues to cancel movement slowing effects. |
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| 14:54.17 | Kalroth | Fisker: you're huggly cuddly wubbly snuggly irl |
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| 14:54.27 | Fisker | you know you've got a poor troll when: |
| 14:54.38 | Fisker | [15:52:04][2. Trade] [Gobblez]: besides, your RAM and CPU, isn't doing much of the visual work ;) |
| 14:54.46 | Fisker | [15:52:35][2. Trade] [Jiniix]: It's the CPU that pushes out the images on your screen. |
| 14:54.52 | Fisker | [15:53:11][2. Trade] [Jiniix]: No no, Core Processor Unit = images. |
| 14:55.09 | amro | it only does that if you don't have enough RAMs. |
| 14:55.14 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth: DA:O is the first game, as far as i can tell. |
| 14:55.27 | Dajova | Can anyone help me 1 sec with a oUF question? |
| 14:55.44 | amro | you'd have to ask it first |
| 14:55.53 | Dajova | no, that's no sport ;) |
| 14:56.08 | Kalroth | Thunder_Child: wut? Dragon's Age: Origins is an expansion to Dragon's Age |
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| 14:56.13 | TMc51 | I can try. No promises, though. ;) |
| 14:56.31 | Dajova | anyway, i cant get the runebars to work. It was working fine a week ago or something, i dont play a DK that often. |
| 14:56.49 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Age ? |
| 14:56.52 | Kalroth | ooops |
| 14:57.00 | Kalroth | I mixed Origins and Awakening up |
| 14:57.04 | Dajova | i get the panels that's going for them to show, but not the bars itself |
| 14:57.18 | Kalroth | I'm terrible, I've even played DA:O through twice :P |
| 14:57.27 | Jamash | is that the flash game? |
| 14:57.35 | Thunder_Child | well i hope 2 fikes the poor party AI |
| 14:57.40 | Thunder_Child | fixes* |
| 14:57.43 | TMc51 | Did you set a statusbar for the actual bars? Sounds like that's the issue, given the panels are displaying, but not the bars themselves. |
| 14:57.47 | Kalroth | Yeah, it was rather funky |
| 14:57.47 | Jamash | *fiskers |
| 14:57.51 | Dajova | Here's what i have atm: http://pastebin.com/CxVCZrKX |
| 14:57.53 | Kalroth | I remember having a huge set of rules |
| 14:57.58 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 14:57.59 | Kalroth | To avoid my mages running in to melee |
| 14:58.13 | Jamash | Fiskermen. |
| 14:58.31 | Dajova | Like i said, that code worked fine a week ago or something |
| 14:58.40 | Thunder_Child | Kalroth: my issue was always people rinning through where i fire or them runing behind me then trying to shoot through me |
| 14:58.45 | Thunder_Child | running* |
| 14:59.04 | Jamash | You know what's awesome? |
| 14:59.34 | Jamash | Taming like fifteen pets at level 80, then leveling up to 85 and realizing I have to level them all from 82 to 85. |
| 15:00.00 | TMc51 | I don't see anything wrong with it, but I don't know much about TukUI, or how anything is done within it. |
| 15:00.36 | Dajova | Dunno if haste changed anything special about the runebar the last few updates |
| 15:01.28 | Dajova | i even compared my code with the original tukui layout and it looks right |
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| 15:19.57 | p3lim | !ActionHasRange |
| 15:20.18 | airtonix | !ActorHasRage |
| 15:20.37 | alestane | !api ActionHasRange |
| 15:20.37 | lua_bot | ActionHasRange: Returns whether an action has a range restriction (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ActionHasRange) |
| 15:20.42 | p3lim | really need to learn the different commandos you can use in this channel |
| 15:20.45 | p3lim | thanks alestane |
| 15:20.49 | industrial | !FiskerHasRage |
| 15:21.10 | jnwhiteh | lua_bot has !api and !addon |
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| 15:21.15 | jnwhiteh | and I think that's all that's relevant to wow dev |
| 15:21.43 | p3lim | hm, !addon supports which site(s)? |
| 15:22.40 | jnwhiteh | all |
| 15:22.51 | jnwhiteh | Fin has an awesome search site that I query |
| 15:22.57 | p3lim | !addon Talentless |
| 15:22.59 | lua_bot | Talentless (v. 40000.1-Beta) last updated Fri Jan 7 08:42 (http://is.gd/6WQcEQ) |
| 15:23.26 | p3lim | ah, fin.instinct.org, should have guessed |
| 15:24.06 | Dajova | !addon Ratings |
| 15:24.07 | lua_bot | Ratings (v. 76458) last updated Jun 11 2008</td><td valign=top class=listone style="font-size: 10px;"> (http://is.gd/DMvTDy) |
| 15:24.16 | Dajova | meh, lies :P |
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| 15:45.07 | Lunessa | This is brilliant: http://jhische.com/workforfree.html |
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| 15:52.19 | alestane | I like how the shortest decision chain in the whole thing starts with "Is it for your mom?" |
| 15:54.17 | alestane | http://io9.com/5731129/drunken-scientists-pour-alcohol-on-superconductors-and-make-an-incredible-discovery YES!! |
| 15:59.04 | alestane | Apparently even electricity works better when drunk, Lunessa. ^ |
| 16:00.41 | TMc51 | That's just great, we're trusting the world to a bunch of drunk scientists. |
| 16:00.45 | Lunessa | alestane: This sounds like a wonderful reason to drink in the physics lab. |
| 16:02.19 | mitch0 | s/in the.*$/ |
| 16:02.22 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.12 | p3lim | Is there some API to determine what OS wow is running on? |
| 16:08.19 | p3lim | most likely not though |
| 16:08.55 | alestane | It's not meaningful information to add-ons. |
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| 16:09.46 | alestane | Some APIs are only available, or only work, on certain OSs, and you could check those, but that question is best checked for what it means: "Can I do X?" |
| 16:10.00 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/DwvPy.jpg |
| 16:10.04 | Adys | eat it, druid bitch |
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| 16:12.15 | amro | mine is better |
| 16:12.16 | amro | http://www.mninja.org/images/22m.jpg |
| 16:12.19 | amro | but fuck |
| 16:12.21 | amro | someone nerf that shit |
| 16:15.14 | d[karl]b | how did you gain 21 rating to 1601 and also get your 1550 achieve? |
| 16:15.21 | TMc51 | Proof that frost mages are teh Oh Pee. |
| 16:16.21 | d[karl]b | a 22 minute match is pretty much never proof of anything other than a frost mage can't burst anyone down |
| 16:16.53 | amro | pillar humping |
| 16:16.59 | amro | pretty much only melee can burst there |
| 16:17.14 | Kraps_ | btw |
| 16:17.26 | Kraps_ | i hate you all |
| 16:17.31 | d[karl]b | aww |
| 16:17.34 | amro | we love you to Kraps_ |
| 16:17.34 | TMc51 | =( |
| 16:17.36 | d[karl]b | </3 |
| 16:17.36 | amro | too |
| 16:17.39 | TMc51 | haet j0o now, kraps |
| 16:17.41 | Adys | d[karl]b: had to wait for 3rd heroism |
| 16:17.51 | Adys | to burst that druid down |
| 16:18.29 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 16:18.32 | d[karl]b | it's all good, druids cant shapeshift out of roots on ptr |
| 16:18.39 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 16:18.39 | amro | oh? |
| 16:18.40 | jnwhiteh | huge change |
| 16:18.44 | amro | yeah please |
| 16:18.49 | TMc51 | and trees can be polymorphed as well |
| 16:19.04 | d[karl]b | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.07 | amro | I must have purged 5000 hots |
| 16:19.16 | jnwhiteh | i hate when pvp nerfs fuck pve =/ |
| 16:19.31 | Adys | i love when whatever nerfs fuck druids over |
| 16:19.42 | Kraps_ | levitate is now 10 minutes |
| 16:19.44 | d[karl]b | <3 |
| 16:19.47 | Adys | you guys had way too much wiggle room in tbc/wlk |
| 16:19.53 | Kraps_ | biggest buff ever |
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| 16:21.21 | Kraps_ | what do you play Adys |
| 16:21.35 | Adys | frost mage |
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| 16:22.28 | Kraps_ | why |
| 16:22.43 | Adys | because it's a class that requires skill to get fun out of? |
| 16:23.37 | Kraps_ | worgen is the best class |
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| 16:24.02 | amro | your sister is the best class |
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| 16:25.44 | Kraps_ | which sister? |
| 16:26.17 | Dajova | best change ever: # The Windfury Weapon proc can now trigger 3 additional attacks, up from 2. |
| 16:26.38 | Dajova | worth getting the WY glyph now |
| 16:26.42 | Dajova | *WF |
| 16:47.37 | d[karl]b | they shoulda changed it to 1 additional attack but with triple the damage |
| 16:47.43 | d[karl]b | that woulda been fun |
| 16:47.45 | Kraps_ | i had to wait 10 minutes outside work till a coworker came and clear snow off the ramp |
| 16:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | That sucks, Kraps. Why on earth didn't they have it cleared already? Give someone a smack. |
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| 16:52.44 | Kraps_ | Lopeppeppy: i'm just thankful that the building occupies a corner or i would have issues getting onto the sidewalk |
| 16:53.12 | Lopeppeppy | Very true, actually. Snow sucks, especially if they don't clear the sidewalks down to the access points. |
| 16:55.37 | Lunessa | Que incoming druid QQ: "Shapeshifts: Entering or leaving a shapeshift no longer cancels root effects. It continues to cancel movement slowing effects." |
| 16:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | Very QQ |
| 16:58.36 | Lunessa | I think this leaves only mages who can move after being rooted. |
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| 17:00.00 | Lunessa | And even then it's just blink on a 6-second cooldown. |
| 17:00.37 | Kraps_ | blink is on a 6-second cooldown? |
| 17:02.17 | haste | Dajova: https://github.com/haste/oUF/commits/master/elements/runebar.lua it hasn't really changed much since 1.4.x |
| 17:02.31 | Lunessa | Yeah, I believe so. |
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| 17:05.12 | d[karl]b | anyone think i should write a lifebloom tracker? |
| 17:06.12 | alestane | Would you use it? |
| 17:06.27 | jnwhiteh | d[karl]b: i would use it, so yes. |
| 17:06.35 | jnwhiteh | don't need a tracker so much as a simple stack counter |
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| 17:06.50 | Cide | I would have thought mods existed for that already |
| 17:07.00 | jnwhiteh | not that I've seen, actually |
| 17:07.03 | jnwhiteh | not that are limited to just that =) |
| 17:07.05 | Mr_Rabies | since you can only lifebloom one target isn't it pretty easy to keep track generally? D: |
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| 17:07.25 | jnwhiteh | sure, but I like having it somewhere other than my raid frames |
| 17:07.35 | jnwhiteh | healers do a fair amount of movement in the new dungeons =) |
| 17:07.38 | Mr_Rabies | this coming from a feral with nurturing instinct so lifebloom is my only viable heal atm |
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| 17:15.43 | cremetorte | hi i got trouble with the WoW API, i want to find out the Instance ID of the intance i am. its only possible to use GetInstanceInfo() but it wont return the ID of the Instance |
| 17:16.31 | cremetorte | Via LFG Tool i can visit some heroics more than once a day and they get different IDs. evaluation only with name does not work there... |
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| 17:16.44 | jnwhiteh | GetCurrentMapAreaID() |
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| 17:16.50 | jnwhiteh | oh hrm |
| 17:16.54 | jnwhiteh | what information are you really trying to get |
| 17:16.59 | jnwhiteh | that would be good for us to know |
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| 17:17.48 | cremetorte | i want to find out which bosses in my current instance are alive |
| 17:18.28 | Dajova | haste: hmm, odd... cause somehow the bars is just not there. Just a blank space... |
| 17:18.29 | cremetorte | distinguishing via name is not good because, like mentioned above, i can visit e.g. The stonecore twice a day when using LFG Tool so i dont know which instance is the current |
| 17:18.52 | cremetorte | not which boss, how many |
| 17:18.57 | cremetorte | i need just a number |
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| 17:21.26 | cremetorte | so if i had the instance ID i could lookup via GetSavedInstanceInfo(index), because that function delivers the ID |
| 17:21.44 | jnwhiteh | I haven't played with that system all that much |
| 17:24.43 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:24.45 | Fisker | i ate food |
| 17:25.38 | d[karl]b | jnwhiteh when you say a stack counter, that info would be more important to you than duration remaining? |
| 17:26.12 | jnwhiteh | i could use both |
| 17:26.13 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
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| 17:26.25 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
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| 17:28.08 | angayelle | having a strange bug with my tank frame addon, i built a table for colors, referenced it in my code to colors bars, everything seems ok and everything is ok on my comp but people are reporting that colors from many addons like, needtoknow, shadowed unit frame or skada turn black when used at the same time as my addon |
| 17:28.28 | haste | Dajova: the attribute initial-width was removed with oUF 1.5, might be where your issue is at |
| 17:28.46 | angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/144815 table and code of function |
| 17:29.18 | angayelle | and btw i'm using skada and suf and got no problem |
| 17:31.50 | angayelle | my table name is different from the one in blizz constants, it's even local |
| 17:32.14 | Kraps_ | starcraft-style ladder system for LFD, Y/N |
| 17:32.18 | angayelle | unless it come from somewhere else in the code |
| 17:32.37 | haste | based on what you pasted -- it's something else |
| 17:33.02 | TMc51 | Kraps_:and how would one rise on the ladder? I know jack about SC's ladder system. |
| 17:33.02 | foxlit | Kraps: N |
| 17:33.11 | haste | I suggest you do luac -l -p file.lua | grep SETG # and figure out if you have some leaked global crashing with other add-ons/blizzui |
| 17:34.27 | angayelle | woaw i did not understood a thing of what you said haste, ehe |
| 17:34.41 | Kraps_ | they could use an expanded version of the fail-checker addon, and check for success as well etc |
| 17:34.42 | angayelle | well some stuff but not the luac.. |
| 17:36.41 | haste | angayelle: luac is the lua compiler, -l makes it dump the bytecode, and grep SETG filters out all variables made global |
| 17:36.56 | haste | angayelle: it's very linux/mac/cygwin way of checking tho' |
| 17:37.30 | angayelle | oho |
| 17:38.15 | angayelle | i wish there is something to tell if 'im crashing some globals |
| 17:38.55 | angayelle | but somehow it should on my comp too ? which is not happenning |
| 17:39.04 | durcyn | luac -l -p | grep SETGLOBAL |
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| 17:41.43 | mikma | http://failblog.org/2011/01/11/epic-fail-video-choir-fail/ |
| 17:42.39 | Dajova | haste: hmm ok... i might try GetWidth() instead then |
| 17:42.55 | mikma | http://ugliesttattoos.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/61d1be2d-620e-44ce-b0b7-9f1c00a4444b.jpg |
| 17:46.18 | Dajova | haste: or no, that's not the issue, since the layout has it's own initial-width and i'm getting the panels that's acts as border for it |
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| 17:48.20 | mikma | http://ugliesttattoos.failblog.org/2011/01/03/funny-tattoos-your-mom/ |
| 17:49.30 | mikma | http://ugliesttattoos.failblog.org/2011/01/02/funny-tattoos-the-bird-is-the-word/ <- lol |
| 17:52.40 | Dajova | haste: this is what i get: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8236/wowscrnshotj.png |
| 17:52.49 | Dajova | panel border, but no bars |
| 17:54.36 | Dajova | and no errors either |
| 17:55.12 | Dajova | and no framelevel issue either, tried :) |
| 17:58.17 | haste | Dajova: how are you making sure? |
| 17:58.40 | Dajova | cause this same code was working perfectly a few weeks ago |
| 17:59.09 | haste | I wouldn't call that a valid reasoning for it not working now |
| 17:59.23 | haste | check if your rB frame cover the bars |
| 18:00.08 | Dajova | hence why i said that that it's not framelevel issue |
| 18:01.09 | Fisker | haste |
| 18:01.10 | Fisker | butsu |
| 18:01.11 | Fisker | curse |
| 18:01.20 | Fisker | what does these 3 entities have to do with eachother? |
| 18:01.27 | haste | your reasoning for that was it working previously, which it doesn't now |
| 18:01.47 | haste | Fisker: aren't I supose to remove the one that doesn't fit with the others? |
| 18:02.49 | Fisker | nah haste |
| 18:04.48 | Lunessa | haste: In that case, remove Fisker. |
| 18:05.36 | Fisker | why would you remove me? |
| 18:05.50 | Dajova | ... ok, this is really wierd... Runes[i]:SetFrameLevel(rB:GetFrameLevel() + 4) brought back the bars, but Runes[i]:SetFrameLevel(rB:GetFrameLevel() + 2) hides it... really odd way for framelevel to act... |
| 18:07.42 | haste | it's because your parenting makes no sense |
| 18:07.56 | haste | hence why I wanted you to check now |
| 18:08.05 | haste | parent rB to self, and Runes to rB |
| 18:08.08 | haste | and drop frame level |
| 18:08.31 | haste | unless you want rB to be above |
| 18:09.10 | haste | actually, you probably want to have health as the parent for rB |
| 18:09.24 | Dajova | well, just wondered cause it was working fine until i updated oUF :P |
| 18:09.26 | haste | seeing as that what you are basing the frame level of |
| 18:09.38 | haste | oUF doesn't touch frame levels |
| 18:09.54 | haste | or parenting/anchoring |
| 18:10.30 | Dajova | yeah, but still strange... |
| 18:11.11 | Fisker | anyone know why the little arena or whatever it is in blackwing descent is considered outside? |
| 18:12.09 | Dajova | u mean where nefarian and onyxia is? |
| 18:12.21 | haste | the way you had parentend the frames are extremly fragile to any changes |
| 18:12.46 | Fisker | yeah Dajova |
| 18:13.01 | Dajova | yeah noticed... changed rB parenting to health and lowerd to +2 and works fine now |
| 18:13.29 | Dajova | no idea, just killed him last night and never tested :) |
| 18:15.00 | Fisker | gonna check if i can mount there tonight |
| 18:15.03 | Fisker | that is if we can kill him |
| 18:15.06 | Fisker | or get that far |
| 18:18.36 | d[karl]b | im quickly heading towards earning every single one of the 55 reps for my guild's 55 rep achieve on my own |
| 18:18.39 | d[karl]b | how sad is that |
| 18:19.23 | haste | you don't need framelevel tricks with correct parenting, it does it by itself then Dajova |
| 18:20.28 | Dajova | will test it later... but now, raidtime! /bye |
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| 18:42.40 | mckenziemc | well that was fun |
| 18:43.13 | mckenziemc | i forgot to disable automatic update, so Windows restarted my computer last night, when i had at least 10 firefox windows open |
| 18:43.52 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
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| 18:45.35 | mckenziemc | it would've been nice if Firefox's recovery thing had an option to bookmark all the tabs so i could go through them later, but noooooooo, i had to open every single tab on dialup to make sure all the important stuff got bookmarked :( |
| 18:47.51 | mckenziemc | ~hug |
| 18:47.51 | purl | ACTION hugs mckenziemc |
| 18:47.57 | mckenziemc | thanks purl |
| 18:47.57 | purl | mckenziemc: no problem |
| 18:48.03 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 18:50.21 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 18:50.21 | purl | Lopeppeppy: aw, gee |
| 18:51.54 | haste | my god, someone who uses multiple firefox windows! |
| 18:52.45 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 18:52.53 | Fisker | you suck mckenziemc |
| 18:53.00 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 18:53.04 | mckenziemc | $15, fisker |
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| 19:37.56 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/01/scared-of-the-dark-a-look-at-the-audio-game-papa-sangre.ars |
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| 20:12.02 | Shirik | most useless comment ever |
| 20:12.11 | Shirik | [1. General] Problim's right here if anyone needs |
| 20:13.11 | Mikk | [1. General] HLEP ME |
| 20:13.14 | Mikk | ^ more useless |
| 20:13.17 | Lopeppeppy | good to know, so I can avoid any problim's |
| 20:13.24 | Ackis | Shirik is a problim |
| 20:13.29 | Shirik | :< |
| 20:13.34 | Shirik | No |
| 20:13.37 | Shirik | You know what's a problim? |
| 20:13.42 | Ackis | crit on T11? |
| 20:13.48 | Shirik | my inventory http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c64d4acbbfa50670c26cb5d04d9d0975.png |
| 20:13.50 | Shirik | that too |
| 20:13.50 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:14.35 | Ackis | I wish I knew how to use auctioneer to make billions of gold |
| 20:16.02 | Shirik | it's simple |
| 20:16.07 | Shirik | capitalize on stupidity |
| 20:16.12 | Shirik | that's the first rule of acquisition |
| 20:16.31 | Ackis | ferengi! |
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| 20:16.40 | syrae | Shirik: yeah. The problem is that most people are stupid. |
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| 20:16.51 | Shirik | exactly |
| 20:16.54 | syrae | well, problem for them trying to learn how to make money off AH :P |
| 20:16.57 | Shirik | that's why it's so easy |
| 20:17.16 | syrae | it's really a combination of stupid+lazy |
| 20:18.08 | Ackis | stupid as in selling stuff that vendors for x at a price of x - y? |
| 20:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | Lupid. Stazy |
| 20:18.15 | Ackis | where y > 0 |
| 20:19.04 | Cide | I think you need x > y for that to fully make sense |
| 20:19.08 | Cide | also |
| 20:19.39 | Ackis | truth |
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| 20:40.16 | dardack | i love dumb people, like ones that put up cloth 1 at a time for 25% less then stacks are going for, so lots of clicking but just made 1k gold for aobut 15 minutes of clicking, and the stacks sold 30 minutes later |
| 20:40.53 | zenzelezz | I tend to put all my stuff up for 10-20% less just to get some quick cash |
| 20:40.59 | dardack | and i just realize i'm 20 minute late to the party |
| 20:41.20 | zenzelezz | if you'd simply bought the stacks you would've made it here on time! |
| 20:41.25 | Xyphoid | time is money, friend |
| 20:41.43 | dardack | but the stacks were 5g per piece, individual 4g per piece but individual, but a ton |
| 20:42.02 | dardack | does auctioneer allow batch buying for things like that? |
| 20:42.07 | dardack | cause man it takes forever |
| 20:42.09 | Xyphoid | one-click buyout at least |
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| 20:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | knows who is going to be eaten when the zombies come, and who is going to be just fine... |
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| 20:45.19 | zenzelezz | you have inside information on zombies? Sounds suspicious |
| 20:46.24 | durcyn | she's one of them. |
| 20:46.52 | Shirik | (15:18:00) (Ackis) stupid as in selling stuff that vendors for x at a price of x - y? |
| 20:46.52 | Shirik | Dude |
| 20:47.01 | Shirik | I made about 100g last night just buying stuff off the AH and selling it to the vendor |
| 20:47.16 | Dagmar | You got lucky |
| 20:47.24 | Dagmar | Scraping for that doesn't usually turn much profit |
| 20:47.37 | Niya | There are some strange people |
| 20:47.42 | Dagmar | Usually it's more like 5-25g tops |
| 20:48.01 | Xyphoid | on the other hand i'd rather do that than a daily |
| 20:48.20 | Niya | I was doing 5g/item from one person... just piles and piles of gems that vendored for more than was listed. So silly. |
| 20:48.28 | Shirik | Hey Dagmar |
| 20:48.33 | Shirik | Would you like a quick amberjewel? |
| 20:48.45 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/c64d4acbbfa50670c26cb5d04d9d0975.png |
| 20:48.48 | Shirik | Buy in bulk and save!@ |
| 20:49.18 | Dagmar | Yeah they fucked up all the tradeskills this time arond |
| 20:49.49 | Dagmar | Everyone had too few things to make to raise their skill, so there's a glut of too many of each thing |
| 20:50.08 | Dagmar | The only thing I've seen thgat doesn't appear to suffer from that is Engineering |
| 20:50.10 | Xyphoid | inscription was okay to level but a waste of time |
| 20:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, sweetie, you know I can survive the zombie invasion. I'm not a wuss. |
| 20:50.24 | Xyphoid | since just about every actual gear piece is +5 skill points |
| 20:50.33 | Dagmar | ...and with that one it's just clear you are stone cold fucked but for the one exception of the electrified ether |
| 20:51.16 | Dagmar | I have honestly made more money off _cooking_ than anything else |
| 20:51.25 | Dagmar | That's just wrong. |
| 20:51.27 | Shirik | They should make a banker profession |
| 20:51.33 | Shirik | I would totally be all over that |
| 20:51.39 | Shirik | World first 525 |
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| 20:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | I like cooking. It's very soothing. Gives me a reason to farm. |
| 20:52.06 | olafski | archaeology <3 |
| 20:52.09 | Dagmar | I just mail all the cookable materials to the one toon I have that cooks. |
| 20:52.43 | Xyphoid | glyphs are starting to be worth selling again |
| 20:52.54 | Dagmar | ...but even with the Tsunami Blah <of the Whatever> breaking them up, you have to make too many of each thing to get past them |
| 20:53.41 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: On my server I've yet to see anything that wasn't a completely stupid glyph in the AH for less than about 400% of the materials cost, so I kinda doubt yer losin' money |
| 20:53.47 | Xyphoid | over darkmoon card weekend i sold at least 10 glyphs for the 300g cap |
| 20:54.29 | Dagmar | Blacksmithing, tailoring, and leatherworking, from what I can tell all have the bulk of their stuff going for far less than the cost of materials, and in some cases less than the cost of the materials to the vendor |
| 20:54.59 | Dagmar | ...just because people have to make too many of the same thing, so you can't even find enough players to buy them for free |
| 20:55.34 | Shirik | tailoring is so stupid |
| 20:55.40 | Shirik | the junk that's made |
| 20:55.42 | Dagmar | Engineering is *really* bad off tho... |
| 20:55.43 | Shirik | and it takes SO MUCH CLOTH |
| 20:55.51 | Xyphoid | how're enchanting mats going? that usually puts a floor on the price of that kind of stuff |
| 20:55.56 | Dagmar | Those safety catch removal kits that add 88 haste to a gun for example. |
| 20:55.58 | Shirik | fortunately cloth has gone down in price |
| 20:56.08 | Dagmar | They take about 200-250g in materials to make. |
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| 20:56.32 | Dagmar | They are almost as flooded out as the gnomish knives now. I've got six of 'em I bouhgt for less than 10g apiece |
| 20:56.44 | Shirik | thanks for the tip |
| 20:56.46 | Shirik | I'll have to check that |
| 20:57.07 | Dagmar | Check what? MOST of the tradeskills have that problem at the moment |
| 20:57.15 | Xyphoid | alchemy sounds good at present, even mana / healing potions don't seem to be in the AH for any length of time |
| 20:57.19 | Shirik | I haven't been watching that particular item |
| 20:57.23 | Ackis | alchemy is annoying |
| 20:57.30 | Ackis | best way to level up is off of xmutes |
| 20:57.33 | Shirik | alchemy takes way too many herbs |
| 20:57.45 | Shirik | and I'm not an herbalist |
| 20:57.49 | Dagmar | Like the leatherworking cloaks in the 425-500 range? They're using 40-60 deepsea scales or blackened dragonscales? That's a pretty vast amount of materials |
| 20:57.55 | Ackis | flasks sell for less than the price of herbs |
| 20:58.03 | Shirik | not in my market |
| 20:58.04 | Shirik | muahaha |
| 20:58.10 | Xyphoid | having no gatherer at the start of an expansion is a bad place to be |
| 20:58.13 | Dagmar | You stand almost no chance of breaking even on those, ever because there's quest rewards handed out that supercede them before someone hits 85. |
| 20:58.15 | Shirik | I really should try to graph the market value of the titanic strength flasks |
| 20:58.26 | Shirik | It's a negative slope, but I keep resetting the market and making a fortune |
| 20:58.38 | Shirik | so it's like a sawtooth graph |
| 20:59.06 | Ackis | Shirik: buying out hte cheap ones and putting them back up for more? |
| 20:59.26 | Shirik | no see that doesn't quite work because everyone blindly undercuts |
| 20:59.32 | Shirik | which leads to a wide spectrum of prices |
| 20:59.41 | Shirik | you have to let the market get way low because of this tendency, and then reset it |
| 20:59.53 | Shirik | I let it get very low and then buy out every single item (preferably when there's not much up) |
| 20:59.59 | Shirik | Then I put some up at about 200% the price I want |
| 21:00.07 | Shirik | people will blindly undercut that price, then I undercut them |
| 21:00.29 | Shirik | You would be amazed at how little people actually know about the value of items |
| 21:00.38 | Shirik | the trick with the 200% is it has to be a near-sellable price |
| 21:00.43 | Shirik | so people don't just ignore it |
| 21:00.56 | Shirik | it's like a newborn baby |
| 21:01.01 | Shirik | you have to be very gentle with it |
| 21:01.05 | Shirik | and then when someone tries to take it |
| 21:01.08 | Shirik | YOU CRUSH THEIR SKULL |
| 21:01.21 | Ackis | Shirik: I heard you like crit |
| 21:01.23 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:01.25 | Shirik | no |
| 21:01.25 | Shirik | hu |
| 21:01.27 | Shirik | fu too |
| 21:01.40 | Shirik | WHY THE HELL IS THE TWO PIECE BONUS CRIT |
| 21:01.42 | Shirik | OMG |
| 21:01.51 | Cide | because heal is awesome |
| 21:01.53 | Cide | but still bad |
| 21:02.15 | Shirik | lua> 1.2 * 1.15 |
| 21:02.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.38 |
| 21:02.23 | Shirik | what were the numbers again? 20% and 15%? |
| 21:02.40 | Shirik | lua> 1.2 * 1.15 * 1.05 |
| 21:02.40 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.449 |
| 21:02.50 | Shirik | lua> 1.2 * 1.15 * 1.05 * 1.05 |
| 21:02.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.52145 |
| 21:02.53 | Shirik | lol 52% crit |
| 21:03.05 | Ackis | you gotta be critting me |
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| 21:03.22 | Shirik | groans |
| 21:03.32 | Lopeppeppy | .... eeew. |
| 21:03.40 | Cide | are you sure it's all additive? |
| 21:03.43 | Cide | and what |
| 21:04.01 | Cide | it's 10% from chakra and 25% from serenity |
| 21:04.09 | Cide | but uptime is 6/10.5 |
| 21:04.25 | Cide | err |
| 21:04.28 | Shirik | That's not additive |
| 21:04.29 | Cide | are you sure it's all multiplicative |
| 21:04.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:04.35 | Cide | even the set bonus? |
| 21:04.38 | Shirik | lua> 1.1 * 1.25 * 1.05 * 1.05 |
| 21:04.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1.5159375 |
| 21:04.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:04.55 | Shirik | that's how they always work |
| 21:05.07 | Cide | lua> 1.1 * (1-6/10.5) * 1.05 * 1.05 + 1.1 * (6/10.5) * 1.25 * 1.05 * 1.05 |
| 21:05.08 | lua_bot | Cide: 1.386 |
| 21:06.02 | Ackis | ok where the hell are you pulling these numbers from? |
| 21:06.13 | syrae | Ackis: rectal sphincter |
| 21:06.17 | Ackis | 10% chackra, 25% serenity, 5% on the 2 piece bonus? |
| 21:06.23 | Ackis | Chakra too |
| 21:06.33 | Thrae | Even if it was additive it would still be like 45% |
| 21:06.35 | Cide | yes |
| 21:06.54 | Shirik | Ackis: 5% from raid buffs |
| 21:07.02 | Cide | and I have 9.57% base crit |
| 21:07.10 | Shirik | eew |
| 21:07.12 | Shirik | I have like |
| 21:07.15 | Shirik | 100 rating or something |
| 21:07.29 | Cide | your gear must be bad~ |
| 21:07.30 | Shirik | you need more mastery |
| 21:07.34 | Shirik | until mastery is better than renew |
| 21:07.38 | Shirik | you do not have enough mastery |
| 21:07.40 | Shirik | I do not have enough mastery |
| 21:07.48 | Ackis | lua> 1.0991 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.1 * 1.25 |
| 21:07.49 | lua_bot | Ackis: 1.66616690625 |
| 21:07.56 | Ackis | herpaderp |
| 21:07.56 | Shirik | need 100% additional healing from mastery |
| 21:08.06 | Cide | yeah, I only have 14.86 mastery |
| 21:08.11 | Shirik | lua> 100 / 1.25 |
| 21:08.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: 80 |
| 21:08.15 | Shirik | only 80 points |
| 21:08.18 | Shirik | I'm 1/4 the way there |
| 21:08.33 | Ackis | I'm 11.27 mastery! suppp! |
| 21:08.34 | Gnarfoz | oracle, I hates it |
| 21:08.35 | Gnarfoz | ACFS-03008: The volume could not be resized. Either the volume expansion's limit has been reached or ASM could not expand the storage. |
| 21:08.40 | Shirik | lua> 26/1.25 |
| 21:08.41 | lua_bot | Shirik: 20.8 |
| 21:08.44 | Shirik | That's what I'm at rawr |
| 21:09.02 | Ackis | 10.02% haste however |
| 21:09.05 | Ackis | huzzah |
| 21:09.22 | Shirik | we |
| 21:09.23 | Shirik | ew |
| 21:09.25 | Shirik | ewwwwwwww |
| 21:09.27 | Shirik | bad man |
| 21:09.35 | Shirik | 516 haste rating |
| 21:09.36 | Shirik | no more, no less |
| 21:10.07 | Ackis | you assume I'll be raiding with a shaman/boomkin or shadow priest |
| 21:10.34 | Shirik | I do |
| 21:10.40 | Shirik | and you should be! |
| 21:11.03 | Ackis | my guild still wipes to the baradin hold boss :( |
| 21:11.35 | Shirik | ew |
| 21:11.41 | Ackis | yeah |
| 21:11.47 | Cide | Shirik: you don't need 80 points |
| 21:11.57 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:12.00 | Cide | since you get a base of 8 points |
| 21:12.05 | Ackis | when I'm dpsing I have to mass dispell the debuff because the healers can't handle it, and when I'm healing I have to do the same thing as well |
| 21:12.05 | Shirik | oh right |
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| 21:13.22 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:13.25 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:14.30 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 21:14.39 | Fisker | hello |
| 21:15.35 | Shirik | hello |
| 21:15.40 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 21:16.05 | Shirik | WASHINGTON -- Unconstitutional Avenue? No Vote Street? Statehood Way? Those are just a few of the suggestions that some Washington residents have proposed for renaming Pennsylvania Avenue - of White House fame - to highlight their lack of statehood. |
| 21:16.09 | Shirik | I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN DC |
| 21:16.17 | Shirik | Omg |
| 21:16.26 | Shirik | Stop living in DC |
| 21:16.33 | Shirik | the whole reason it's NOT in a state is because it gave that state too much power |
| 21:16.35 | durcyn | it's that easy. |
| 21:16.53 | durcyn | and it's not about statehood, they just want a congresscritter |
| 21:17.16 | Shirik | true |
| 21:17.35 | zenzelezz | they should make it Washington AC anyhow; DC is so last century |
| 21:18.06 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:18.07 | durcyn | Edison was a thief? |
| 21:18.21 | Shirik | AC is broken anyway |
| 21:18.25 | Shirik | The power company charges me |
| 21:18.30 | Shirik | and they've never given me a single electron |
| 21:18.38 | Shirik | The ones in my house are still the same ones I've always had |
| 21:18.41 | Lopeppeppy | I want an electron for Valentine's Day! |
| 21:18.42 | zenzelezz | AC could even symbolise the alternating currents of politics |
| 21:18.51 | Lopeppeppy | Or sexuality. *innocent* |
| 21:19.01 | zenzelezz | ;-o |
| 21:22.06 | Lopeppeppy | I am a bad, bad monkey. |
| 21:23.22 | zenzelezz | speaking of bad things, I wish Xbox games would stop treating the controller like it was a vibrator - at least give me a damn setting to disable the shaking |
| 21:23.40 | Lopeppeppy | Bzzzzzzzz! It lights up your life! |
| 21:23.41 | Thrae | The shaking is what you get when you don't play enough WoW. |
| 21:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | Thems the DT's. |
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| 21:25.02 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1535615460?page=1#5 <-nice |
| 21:25.38 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, stop being logical or I'll put a tundra wolf in your soup. |
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| 21:34.30 | Kraps | lolfisker |
| 21:37.05 | Fisker | naw Kraps |
| 21:37.17 | Kraps | maw Fisker |
| 21:37.28 | Lunessa | Rez, for PS2 - not just a game but also a marital aid. |
| 21:37.37 | olafski | wmm I love rez |
| 21:38.00 | olafski | more of a relationship destroyer though it seems here =) |
| 21:38.02 | Lunessa | that game was awesome. |
| 21:38.10 | Arrowmaster | get RezHD |
| 21:38.12 | olafski | I have it on the 360 |
| 21:38.18 | olafski | arrowmaster: ^5 =) |
| 21:39.41 | nicoli_s | i just bought rez for the 360 |
| 21:39.46 | Dagmar | Someone is missing hte point. |
| 21:39.48 | nicoli_s | like last night |
| 21:40.34 | Arrowmaster | http://www.trueachievements.com/a15299/the-rezident-achievement.htm |
| 21:40.41 | Arrowmaster | check that first winners list on the side |
| 21:42.02 | Lunessa | There was a long write up about the vibrating controller being used by a young woman while her boyfriend played the game, but a cursory goggle search didn't turn it up. |
| 21:42.21 | Dagmar | THat comes up on *YouTube* |
| 21:42.26 | Arrowmaster | i remember that article |
| 21:43.54 | Arrowmaster | the Rez 'sequel' better work without Kinect |
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| 21:47.49 | olafski | we tried that too |
| 21:48.02 | foxlit | /dump UnitMana("target") |
| 21:48.04 | foxlit | -90 |
| 21:51.22 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/01/mushroomsall.jpg |
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| 21:57.44 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html#1157 |
| 22:00.50 | Kraps | dude looks like a lady http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html#1119 |
| 22:02.15 | jnwhiteh | I just ground from 1/2 honoured to exalted on Kurenai |
| 22:02.18 | jnwhiteh | what a weird evening :P |
| 22:03.06 | Cide | easy with the low level mobs? |
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| 22:05.08 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 22:05.12 | jnwhiteh | took like 4 hours tho |
| 22:05.14 | jnwhiteh | maybe 5 |
| 22:05.20 | jnwhiteh | 2100 kills |
| 22:05.25 | jnwhiteh | less than that actually due to warbeads |
| 22:05.29 | Niya | wait...what? |
| 22:06.01 | Niya | sylvanas is hawt |
| 22:07.52 | KarlKFI|work | jnwhiteh: I hear you've used the curse repo sync to mirror wowinterface repos |
| 22:08.01 | jnwhiteh | quite some time ago |
| 22:08.06 | jnwhiteh | haven't used svn for a project in about 9 months tho |
| 22:08.06 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:08.13 | jnwhiteh | was straightforward however |
| 22:08.24 | KarlKFI|work | using git now? |
| 22:08.41 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 22:08.49 | KarlKFI|work | on curse? |
| 22:09.12 | jnwhiteh | on curse and wowi |
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| 22:09.58 | KarlKFI|work | so you're mirroring those or duplicate? |
| 22:10.16 | jnwhiteh | I push the same commits to both |
| 22:10.22 | KarlKFI|work | oi |
| 22:10.24 | jnwhiteh | git push origin |
| 22:10.25 | jnwhiteh | git push curse |
| 22:10.32 | KarlKFI|work | fun |
| 22:10.32 | jnwhiteh | pretty simple =) |
| 22:11.09 | KarlKFI|work | are you using the same repo structure for both? |
| 22:11.30 | jnwhiteh | its the exact same repo |
| 22:11.37 | jnwhiteh | that's how git works =) |
| 22:12.07 | KarlKFI|work | does the wowi packager ignroe the .pkgmeta file? |
| 22:12.39 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 22:12.45 | jnwhiteh | but I don't use .pkgmeta for most things |
| 22:13.02 | jnwhiteh | Most things i need can be specified without it |
| 22:15.37 | KarlKFI|work | i assume curse onyl distributes curse points to dependencies if you use .pkgmeta rather than svn:externals. What's the git equivelent? |
| 22:17.48 | jnwhiteh | there isn't one |
| 22:17.57 | jnwhiteh | you can use .pkgmeta to indicate what tools you use |
| 22:18.00 | jnwhiteh | so they get points |
| 22:18.06 | jnwhiteh | withotu having to use their packaging system |
| 22:18.21 | jnwhiteh | I won't use .pkgmeta externals, they make the repository useless |
| 22:18.34 | jnwhiteh | I DETEST checking out peoples addons and not having a working version |
| 22:19.14 | jnwhiteh | @project-version@ works in .toc files, however |
| 22:20.58 | KarlKFI|work | ? |
| 22:21.24 | jnwhiteh | if they use externals, and you clone their repo, you're missing every single external |
| 22:21.45 | KarlKFI|work | right |
| 22:21.54 | KarlKFI|work | a valid argument |
| 22:21.55 | jnwhiteh | I think this is shit, and don't use it as a result =) |
| 22:22.06 | jnwhiteh | which means my .pkgmeta is just tools-used: |
| 22:22.13 | KarlKFI|work | cool |
| 22:22.18 | jnwhiteh | package-as in one that I haven't moved to the web options yet I think |
| 22:22.36 | KarlKFI|work | ? |
| 22:22.43 | KarlKFI|work | oh |
| 22:23.24 | KarlKFI|work | so the web options are different and override pkgdata? |
| 22:24.03 | jnwhiteh | there just IS a web option for the directory under which your addon is packaged |
| 22:24.24 | jnwhiteh | since the git repos I use are flat, i.e. .toc is at the root, I need to specify the addon's name so its zipped properly |
| 22:24.27 | jnwhiteh | on both curse and wowi |
| 22:24.44 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/2733722729 |
| 22:24.45 | KarlKFI|work | ah i see |
| 22:25.15 | KarlKFI|work | if toc is at the root i take it you dont distribute any with multiple addon folders? |
| 22:25.25 | jnwhiteh | LightHeaded, but not via git |
| 22:25.26 | jnwhiteh | that's in svn |
| 22:25.34 | jnwhiteh | although if I moved it, I wouldn't need to worry about package-as |
| 22:25.53 | Adys | !api extend |
| 22:25.54 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'extend': GetExtendedItemInfo, SetSavedInstanceExtend |
| 22:25.58 | Adys | !api SetSavedInstanceExtend |
| 22:25.58 | lua_bot | SetSavedInstanceExtend: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetSavedInstanceExtend) |
| 22:26.15 | jnwhiteh | lol I'm the 55th best geared resto druid on my server |
| 22:26.20 | KarlKFI|work | ah i see "You can specify package-as in .pkgmeta, which will override this value." |
| 22:26.47 | jnwhiteh | 48th on the alliance side, which doesn't speak well to horde druids :P |
| 22:27.14 | foxlit | lol "best" :P |
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| 22:31.00 | foxlit | where is the best place to herb in Outland, if one only cares about the quantity of herbs gathered per unit of time? |
| 22:31.07 | jnwhiteh | terrokar |
| 22:31.15 | jnwhiteh | by far, having done this recently =) |
| 22:31.49 | alestane | I'm inclined to agree with jnwhiteh, especially if you're milling. |
| 22:32.42 | syrae | Not Nagrand? I figured that both Terrokar and Nagrand would be pretty good |
| 22:34.30 | alestane | My memory says rather dimly that Nagrand is actually better for mining. |
| 22:34.32 | jnwhiteh | Terrokar is an easy path and has tons of Terrocone.. and you mostly get felweed and terrocone |
| 22:35.41 | Elkano | finished Deepholm today and when the Stonemother started to talk about her daughter I went like "ups... sorry ^^'" |
| 22:35.49 | foxlit | intuitively, I'm partial to Netherstorm |
| 22:35.56 | foxlit | Especially that mana thistle floating island |
| 22:36.09 | Xyphoid | that bit in deepholm where a dude goes 'deathwing will have his way with your stonemother' was kinda jarring |
| 22:37.38 | Jerub | hey, can someone explain a sequence to me? |
| 22:37.43 | Xyphoid | it was kind of cool to meet myzrael just hanging out there too |
| 22:38.12 | Jerub | So I was questing in twilight highlands, and I'm fighting ooze in the belly of a sarlaac after some jerk jedi knocks out my jet pack. |
| 22:38.24 | Jerub | i mean, after i fly in on a gryphon or something. |
| 22:38.40 | Jerub | So I'm fighting some ooze, and then suddenly, I'm "helping" thrall defeat deathwing. |
| 22:38.44 | Xyphoid | it's a nightmare |
| 22:38.48 | Jerub | And then I'm fighting tentacles. |
| 22:39.15 | Jerub | Xyphoid: so it's just a dream sequence? man. i had no idea. |
| 22:39.17 | Elkano | ah, the "Help me!" - "Yeah, sure... but HOW? :/" |
| 22:39.19 | Jerub | i've been through it twice and it still feels like a bug in the game |
| 22:39.50 | Jerub | Elkano: that's the one |
| 22:39.51 | Kraps | you're doing it wrong Jerub |
| 22:40.05 | Xyphoid | the whole point is it's supposed to be like those dreams where you can't do anything |
| 22:40.15 | Jerub | it's not like there's quest text to read much there either. |
| 22:40.17 | Kraps | thralls dialog should clue you in |
| 22:40.30 | Xyphoid | also you get an achievement for enduring nightmares afterwards |
| 22:40.30 | foxlit | Yes, but, no. |
| 22:40.33 | foxlit | I agree, that part fails. |
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| 22:40.50 | foxlit | It would've been better if you /were/ able to do something, but were utterly demolished by deathwing anyway. |
| 22:41.05 | Kraps | foxlit: yeah |
| 22:41.10 | Elkano | yeah, you don't feel like not being able to do anything but rather like failing to try the right thing |
| 22:41.34 | Xyphoid | i thought it worked quite well, what was confusing was 'the three nightmares of iso'rath' |
| 22:41.57 | Jerub | Kraps: http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Devoured |
| 22:42.01 | foxlit | The first one was a nightmare as well |
| 22:42.07 | Jerub | that's the start, the followup is linked |
| 22:42.18 | Jerub | paste a line that would clue me in :) |
| 22:42.28 | Xyphoid | sure, dying to slimes is one, thrall sequence is another, but what was the third nightmare |
| 22:42.44 | Kraps | Jerub: i just kind of got it on the fly :) |
| 22:43.23 | Kraps | a second before i died to the slimes i realized that was probably supposed to happen |
| 22:43.41 | Jerub | "We need you! You were stuck in some kind of nightmare. So are many of the other shaman. " is in the quest text for the quest after you die to DW |
| 22:43.46 | foxlit | The slime bit was well done! |
| 22:43.52 | Jerub | yeah, i liked the slimes |
| 22:43.53 | Kraps | at thrall i actually started to panic |
| 22:44.20 | Kraps | his yelling at me was kind of upsetting |
| 22:44.24 | Jerub | but changing location like that was far too jarring. it felt like someone had fat fingered a transition in the quest line |
| 22:45.02 | Jerub | if, say, i had a vehicle cast bar with buttons like, "run without moving" and "scream" that would have been /awesome/ |
| 22:45.11 | Kraps | lol |
| 22:45.39 | foxlit | Could just have had you stay there with a Horror debuff while Thrall yells at you for failing |
| 22:45.57 | Dagmar | Didn't he already *do* that? |
| 22:45.57 | Jerub | foxlit: that'd be good too. a nice debuff with some awesome flavour text |
| 22:46.03 | Kraps | the location change was no problem for me |
| 22:46.05 | Dagmar | "DWARF! DO SOMETHING!" |
| 22:46.08 | Kraps | ITS MAGIC |
| 22:46.15 | Dagmar | "WTF man he's way the hell out past 40 yards" |
| 22:46.41 | Xyphoid | i didn't even get to ranging him, since i tried to drop totems and it didn't work |
| 22:46.44 | Jerub | I really like TH, it's an awesome zone with great quests and good story. |
| 22:47.04 | Dagmar | Normally, if you need someone to make inadvisably unplanned attacks on dragons, I'm your guy. |
| 22:47.06 | Jerub | i spent some quality time fishing there the other day |
| 22:47.21 | Jerub | fishing fire, but fishing. |
| 22:47.24 | Cide | the dailies are pretty boring though |
| 22:47.25 | Dagmar | ...but I was more than a little miffed the dragon wouldn't come into range and Thrall was yelling at me about it |
| 22:47.27 | Xyphoid | yeah, i liked the whole sequence with alexstraza too |
| 22:47.34 | Jerub | Xyphoid: that was golden. |
| 22:48.01 | Xyphoid | and i am a sucker for those quests where you ride a dragon with fatality buttons |
| 22:48.06 | Jerub | Xyphoid: and the mini-VDW fight was probably one of my favourite little parts. |
| 22:48.14 | Xyphoid | i could press that button all day every day |
| 22:48.21 | foxlit | vdw? |
| 22:48.24 | Jerub | Xyphoid: i was hoping that woul dbe a daily. |
| 22:48.25 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 22:48.35 | Jerub | foxlit: valithera dreamwalker, i abbreivate because i can't spell. |
| 22:48.44 | Jerub | the hurt dragons being healed by dragonkin |
| 22:49.01 | Jerub | you have to defend the dragonkin from attack so they can heal the dragons to full. |
| 22:49.07 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 22:49.13 | foxlit | yes. It's just weird to call that valithria :) |
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| 22:49.21 | Dagmar | That was almost exactly a short-bus version of the ICC fight |
| 22:49.31 | foxlit | no portal fun? |
| 22:49.45 | Jerub | no, no portals, no zombies, no aboms. |
| 22:49.48 | Dagmar | Also, no "holy crap three explody guys at once!" going on either |
| 22:49.51 | Xyphoid | heh i didn't even think of healing the dragon myself, does that work |
| 22:50.02 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:50.09 | Jerub | You can really see in the new instances and some of the gimicky quests little signatures like, "I like this fight mechanic and BY GOD I'M GOING TO USE IT AGAIN" |
| 22:50.10 | Dagmar | Basically, if you made a reasonable attempt to shoot the mobs that came out, you did well enough |
| 22:50.11 | foxlit | Or healers would be screwed. Its health just has to reach 100 |
| 22:50.36 | Xyphoid | is anyone in the world levelling as a healer now |
| 22:50.51 | Dagmar | Jerub: Some stuff is wholly new tho. LIke, how often is it that you see boss adds actually affected by boss AoE |
| 22:50.54 | Jerub | like the life boss in Halls has the same mechanic as saurfang, the guy who did RS's twilight cutters liked them so much he put a rotating fire wall into deadmines, etc. |
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| 22:51.39 | syrae | rotating fire wall makes me think Super Mario Bros. ever damn time |
| 22:51.50 | Dagmar | I could almost hear the gears turning in my own head when I saw those guys running into the gravity well and dying |
| 22:51.51 | syrae | and the lightning ones |
| 22:52.43 | Jerub | is there another boss anywhere like the first of Halls? |
| 22:52.46 | Xyphoid | god i wish more of those were dailies |
| 22:52.46 | Jerub | with the levers? |
| 22:53.08 | Xyphoid | so many awesome levelling quests and then you go to tol barad and kill 12 dudes |
| 22:53.55 | Jerub | i'm going to get cata loremaster on all my toons befor ei consider dailes. |
| 22:54.01 | Jerub | cata quests are so lucrative. |
| 22:54.13 | Xyphoid | dailies are for rep unfortunately |
| 22:54.30 | Jerub | Xyphoid: cata quests > dailies for rep. |
| 22:54.30 | Xyphoid | the gold is kind of a side issue |
| 22:54.50 | syrae | Jerub: until you need more rep and you're out of non-dailies |
| 22:55.06 | Jerub | syrae: at which point i need to start spamming heroics on my crafters more |
| 22:55.08 | Jerub | for chaos orbs |
| 22:55.28 | Jerub | heroics = rep |
| 22:55.41 | Jerub | does anyone else really like the new chaos orb system? |
| 22:56.00 | Jerub | no longer do i care about other leatherworkers having more/better patterns than i do competing on trade. |
| 22:56.28 | Jerub | i have 2 orbs, they have 3, we can both make 1 epic each, if either of us make a sale, it drives up the price of orbs, all is good :) |
| 22:56.40 | Dagmar | Yeha, that much at least works for me |
| 22:57.10 | Dagmar | Otherwise I'd just be saying "Fuck your tradeskill blizz. I'll wait until the easy-mode patters drop in the next expansion" |
| 22:59.07 | syrae | awesome Tumblr http://tpdsaa.tumblr.com/ |
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| 23:07.13 | Lunessa | Jerub: This has been the case with those items since TBC - they start the expansion BOP and eventually become BOE |
| 23:08.22 | syrae | Lunessa: don't spoil his delusion of uniqueness |
| 23:10.15 | DJJeff | if my motherboard is socket 1156 can it support a 1155 i7 CPU? |
| 23:10.36 | DJJeff | Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz |
| 23:10.48 | foxlit | why don't you check either the chipset or the CPU's support list? |
| 23:11.05 | DJJeff | ill check just thought I would ask |
| 23:11.28 | DJJeff | trying to see if I should buy a i7 or a faster gfx card |
| 23:11.35 | DJJeff | to up my FPS |
| 23:11.56 | DJJeff | probley wind up buying both just not sure which to get 1st |
| 23:12.24 | DJJeff | forum websites saying to overclock your cpu to boost frame rate |
| 23:13.01 | foxlit | WoW is usually not GPU-bound. |
| 23:13.11 | DJJeff | using a i3 cpu does kinda suck but also using a DDR2 gfx card when you can get a DDR5 for $300 |
| 23:13.47 | DJJeff | thinking about getting |
| 23:13.47 | DJJeff | EVGA E-GEFORCE NVIDIA GTX570 |
| 23:13.48 | DJJeff | EVGA E-GEFORCE NVIDIA GTX570 |
| 23:13.58 | DJJeff | ack double paste :( |
| 23:14.07 | Dagmar | You realize that is almost terrifying levels of overkill for what WoW needs, right?> |
| 23:14.20 | DJJeff | the gfx or cpu? |
| 23:14.35 | Dagmar | Clearly you don't. |
| 23:14.47 | DJJeff | I can get 30 FPS in Stormwind when its busy |
| 23:14.53 | Dagmar | The 570. Incredible overkill. |
| 23:14.56 | DJJeff | and 100 FPS in HoO |
| 23:15.06 | DJJeff | Halls of Orig. |
| 23:15.41 | syrae | and what's wrong with those FPS numbers? |
| 23:15.54 | DJJeff | so ill get the CPU 1st then... damn computer store is sold out tho |
| 23:16.06 | DJJeff | I would like to have my Liquid Detail up higher |
| 23:16.09 | Dagmar | syrae: Because our reaction times to the game come in tenths to whole seconds |
| 23:16.10 | DJJeff | without loosing FPS |
| 23:16.45 | DJJeff | I need to have my shadow and liquid detail up instead of LOW setting |
| 23:16.54 | syrae | Dagmar: but our eyes only see things at 30FPS |
| 23:16.55 | Dagmar | Another $100 thrown at CPU or RAM is likely to yeild greater results |
| 23:17.10 | DJJeff | I have 8GB DDR3 ram |
| 23:17.12 | DJJeff | already |
| 23:17.35 | DJJeff | so CPU would help :) |
| 23:18.04 | Dagmar | I just buy AMD. Less hassle. |
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| 23:18.19 | DJJeff | fuck that lol INTEL PWNZ |
| 23:18.19 | Dagmar | None of this "what socket am I using" mess |
| 23:18.38 | DJJeff | AMD made the "ATHLON" garbage |
| 23:18.39 | Dagmar | Oh, yes, and not having to throw out a board to upgrade the CPU is also quite nice |
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| 23:18.51 | DJJeff | true I guess |
| 23:19.12 | Jerub | I'm hanging out the for GTX460 to come down in price a little in au |
| 23:19.15 | Dagmar | They also don't say "Bend over" when you want something close to the edge |
| 23:19.16 | Jerub | not that that will happen |
| 23:20.25 | Dagmar | Intel is still quite clearly into the "because we can" pricing |
| 23:20.32 | Dagmar | ...even when they can't. |
| 23:20.35 | DJJeff | my board wont support socket 1155 :( |
| 23:20.36 | Jerub | this is my cities cheapest/best computer retailer: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op=1&view=global&subj=138403559554005&pid=6367316&id=689946957&oid=138403559554005&fbid=491432671957#!/photo.php?op=1&view=global&subj=138403559554005&pid=6367316&id=689946957&oid=138403559554005&fbid=491432671957 |
| 23:20.52 | Jerub | or, was. |
| 23:22.15 | Mihau | Jerub: Makes me want to SCUBA dive inside to look around. |
| 23:22.33 | Jerub | Mihau: you and a lot of other geeks who know how to clean water off computer equipment |
| 23:22.43 | Jerub | the waters will have receeded now |
| 23:23.08 | Dagmar | The place is probably all infested with bunyips now tho |
| 23:23.51 | Mihau | Mmm, large electronics bath. |
| 23:23.51 | Dagmar | You go down there and they'll be lucky to find little pieces of you later. |
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| 23:25.20 | Jerub | i have my open water, my neighbour has his rescue, that, combined with the fact there'd be breathable air inside, meh. |
| 23:25.51 | airtonix | until you fart |
| 23:25.59 | Cide | or the roof falls down |
| 23:26.04 | airtonix | yeah |
| 23:26.19 | Shirik | what is a bunyip |
| 23:26.31 | Cide | there's a reason open water != caves :P |
| 23:26.46 | Jerub | Shirik: it's a very old dropbear, that has eaten itself nearly to death |
| 23:26.55 | Shirik | dropbear? |
| 23:26.59 | Shirik | Can we speak english please? |
| 23:27.00 | airtonix | Shirik, australian aboriginal joke for the whiteman |
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| 23:27.29 | airtonix | Shirik, it's supposed to look like a humanoid platypus |
| 23:27.42 | syrae | AHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 23:27.57 | syrae | I just executed a script that essentially did rm -rf / |
| 23:28.00 | syrae | \o/ |
| 23:28.06 | syrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.59 | Wobin | I'm actually glad there's been so little reported looting |
| 23:29.31 | Dagmar | Bunyips are a fair bit larger than dropbears |
| 23:29.49 | Wobin | but then, I guess it's not been the same sort of flooding as was like in NOLA |
| 23:30.01 | Dagmar | Lookit the illustration on the right of this page... That's not a pygmy he's snackin' on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunyip |
| 23:30.57 | Dagmar | Wobin: Oh, so, not caused by beuracracy then. ;) |
| 23:31.17 | Shirik | syrae: I mistyped once |
| 23:31.25 | Shirik | And did `rm -rf . /` instead of `rm -rf ./` |
| 23:31.33 | Shirik | very big difference that is |
| 23:31.33 | syrae | hehe |
| 23:31.38 | Shirik | one little space |
| 23:31.45 | syrae | Thankfully this is a VM with a very recent snapshot |
| 23:31.51 | Arrowmaster | sweet it works |
| 23:31.54 | syrae | so that was no problem |
| 23:31.59 | syrae | just amusing |
| 23:32.15 | Wobin | Dagmar: yeah, a slightly higher power =) |
| 23:32.31 | Wobin | over a slightly larger area |
| 23:32.46 | Arrowmaster | is at school using XChat on Fedora to tunnel via ssh into his Debian box at home to connect to his irssi-proxy to connect to IRC |
| 23:33.07 | Arrowmaster | first time ive ever messed with more than one client connected to my irssi-proxy |
| 23:33.09 | Wobin | I suppose that the point of looting and pillaging during issues like this, is that you need to be able to get away from the looting |
| 23:33.15 | Wobin | with your ill gotten gains |
| 23:33.35 | airtonix | http://home.iprimus.com.au/gunnado/bunyip.html |
| 23:33.54 | airtonix | what it looks like depends on which tribe you get the story from |
| 23:46.19 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@c-76-114-170-138.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:46.19 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 23:53.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Slaren (slaren@226.Red-83-63-216.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:55.42 | KarlKFI|work | how do i get to the addon svn file browser on wowinterface now? |
| 23:56.03 | durcyn | uh, svn.wowinterface.com should still work |
| 23:56.32 | durcyn | even if most of the repositories are shameful to look at |
| 23:56.50 | KarlKFI|work | is there a link to that somewhere? |
| 23:57.02 | cbreak | git > svn! |
| 23:57.09 | cbreak | crusaders a bit |
| 23:57.34 | KarlKFI|work | it'd be nice if there were links to your own addon browsers in the management pages |
| 23:58.11 | Arrowmaster | its a good thing im not following along in class, everybody else just messed up their network configuration |
| 23:58.20 | Arrowmaster | i blame NetworkManager |
| 23:58.37 | Jerub | Wobin: there's been looting by canoe |
| 23:58.54 | Wobin | People going back to their Viking roots |
| 23:59.07 | Jerub | the worst part was people dressing up in SES uniforms and going around the flood shelters offering to help people fill their prescriptions |
| 23:59.10 | Jerub | then stealing all the scripts |
| 23:59.13 | Wobin | ugh |
| 23:59.18 | Wobin | now that is horrible |
| 23:59.38 | Wobin | and extremely difficult to track |
| 23:59.57 | Jerub | Wobin: not as difficult as you might think |
