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| 01:01.07 | syrae|mac | what's the last seen command for purl again? |
| 01:02.22 | Kalroth | ~seen syrae|mac |
| 01:02.25 | purl | syrae|mac is currently on #wowuidev (1m 42s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 1m 18s, last said: 'what's the last seen command for purl again?'. |
| 01:03.02 | mckenziemc | ~botsnack |
| 01:03.02 | purl | :), mckenziemc |
| 01:03.35 | mckenziemc | ~darksecrets |
| 01:03.35 | purl | lua> function f(c)return string.char((string.byte(c)-1)%256)end;print((('J(n!jo!mpwf!xjui!Gjtlfs"'):gsub('.',f))) |
| 01:03.37 | lua_bot | purl: I'm in love with Fisker! |
| 01:03.37 | purl | O.o |
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| 01:07.24 | Cide | don't fill the bot with useless crap |
| 01:07.42 | airtonix | yeah |
| 01:07.51 | Cide | and no, failrik is definitely useful |
| 01:08.02 | airtonix | how's it supposed to grow up into a respectable overloard? |
| 01:11.15 | Dagmar | By being better at spelling, for starters. |
| 01:18.49 | Arrowmaster | the bot is in multiple channels, not just wow ones, weve gotten yelled at before for putting useless crap on the bot |
| 01:19.06 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 01:20.51 | KarlKFI | is the wow voice chat sposed to show an icon when i am talking? |
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| 01:22.02 | bluspacecow | afgaik |
| 01:23.53 | Arrowmaster | wow this is cheesy, box set of 27 dvds and they are just in paper sleeves stacked up inside this overgrown dvd case |
| 01:24.07 | bluspacecow | i mean afaik |
| 01:24.10 | bluspacecow | typing fail |
| 01:24.31 | airtonix | grumble |
| 01:24.48 | KarlKFI | my ppt button doesnt seem to work |
| 01:25.04 | airtonix | isn't that cute |
| 01:25.15 | KarlKFI | voice activation doesnt work either |
| 01:25.22 | KarlKFI | but the record and play back to yourself works |
| 01:25.42 | airtonix | it only works in party right ? |
| 01:25.56 | KarlKFI | im in a party |
| 01:26.35 | airtonix | are you using windows ? |
| 01:26.40 | KarlKFI | yes |
| 01:26.47 | airtonix | can't help you then sorry |
| 01:27.01 | bluspacecow | *giggle snort* |
| 01:27.35 | Kraps | herpderp macfag |
| 01:27.43 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 01:27.47 | bluspacecow | wanna go onna date |
| 01:28.11 | airtonix | you can make little haters |
| 01:28.21 | Kraps | i dont swing that way |
| 01:29.30 | airtonix | i didn't know you were a swinger |
| 01:31.52 | industrial | hahahahah x'D |
| 01:31.54 | industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxznaXsk6Hg |
| 01:32.04 | bluspacecow | fisker makes me hot |
| 01:32.05 | bluspacecow | brb |
| 01:32.50 | Dagmar | I'd like to know what about Gnomeregan makes players into idiots |
| 01:33.01 | Dagmar | LFD was working so well... until I got to Gnomeregan. |
| 01:33.19 | airtonix | little people |
| 01:36.00 | Dagmar | All the other instances everything went relatively well for... except Gnomeregan was 3 for 3 at being almost entirely eejits |
| 01:37.23 | Dagmar | The first group scattered to the four winds at teh point where you had to just _use the parachute and drop down_ |
| 01:37.39 | Dagmar | Seriously, ten minutes of watching them run aimlessly here and there |
| 01:37.58 | Dagmar | Second group made it past that but had a zergtank who complained about dying |
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| 01:38.26 | airtonix | times like this make me proud of wow |
| 01:38.39 | Dagmar | Most tanks figure out after they die a couple timees that maybe they shoudln't run in if the healer has only about 1/3 mana |
| 01:38.52 | Dagmar | I had to spell it out for him. |
| 01:38.59 | Dagmar | They also learned why you don't call the healer a fag. |
| 01:39.41 | Dagmar | The third group had a hunter meleeing, and about halfway through the instanace we finally got him to turn his pet off aggressive mode |
| 01:39.49 | airtonix | lulz |
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| 01:40.07 | Dagmar | Oh and he was rolling need on int leather... with spirit |
| 01:40.22 | Nobgul|Sleep | I let the tanks die if they try to "take it all" and not cc. |
| 01:40.22 | Dagmar | _not_ agility/stamina leather |
| 01:41.17 | Dagmar | If they can take it, more power to 'em |
| 01:41.32 | Dagmar | ...assuming they know enough to not let half of what they pulled beat on the back of their heads. |
| 01:41.48 | airtonix | dying with an honourable tank is the reason for your existance |
| 01:42.29 | Dagmar | I finished one of the bosses off with just enough mana to go bear |
| 01:43.23 | Dagmar | Mainly because a whole slew of little guys came running up at the last moment |
| 01:43.34 | Dagmar | The warlock picked up a friend and he just feared it. |
| 01:43.39 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 01:43.51 | Dagmar | Didn't bother to really mention it to anyone, either. |
| 01:44.10 | Jamash | l2glyph of fear |
| 01:44.36 | Dagmar | I thought everyone knew _they always come back_ when you're in an instance. |
| 01:44.51 | Jamash | almost always |
| 01:44.54 | airtonix | obviously not |
| 01:45.05 | airtonix | must be the season of the simples |
| 01:45.11 | Jamash | I had some dwarves in ulduar leash when I was trying for dwarfaggedon |
| 01:45.14 | Dagmar | could be |
| 01:45.33 | airtonix | "HERPERP I R GUT WOW> RAWR PLAY LOLOLOLOL" |
| 01:45.46 | Dagmar | Jamash: LoS'd on pebbles on the floor. ;) |
| 01:45.50 | Dagmar | I saw that too |
| 01:46.10 | Dagmar | I figured I'd just hit some upper limit on the number of mobs that could chase you |
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| 01:54.15 | kd3 | hmm... you sure wouldn't think "snowacolypse the revenge" is coming in 12-18 hours considering how clear the sky is atm |
| 01:54.26 | kd3 | though that's just making it colder, better for the roads to freeze |
| 01:54.34 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 01:58.08 | Dagmar | Muahaha |
| 01:58.15 | Dagmar | ...and me with the oil light flashing on the dashboard, too |
| 01:58.23 | kd3 | whee |
| 01:58.35 | Dagmar | it's okay tho. It's a BMW. |
| 01:59.33 | Dagmar | Someday they'll learn how to make a reliable trouble sensor. |
| 02:02.53 | BluSpacecow | Big Mamma Women ? |
| 02:04.15 | Dagmar | Bavarian Motor Works. Horribly expensive cars new, fairly decent used and old. |
| 02:04.26 | Dagmar | However, they are "over-engineered". |
| 02:05.16 | Dagmar | This is a polite way of saying the things have so many sensors for telling you when things are going wrong, have gone wrong, or are about to go wrong, that they have more failures as a result, but statistics being what they are, it's usually a _sensor_ that's just failed. |
| 02:05.44 | Dagmar | An old BMW is considerd in good repair if it runs and has less than three ominous lights lit up on the dash |
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| 02:23.47 | airtonix | something something something |
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| 02:32.01 | mckenziemc | nothing nothnig nothing |
| 02:32.12 | karl_w_w | Dagmar: so BMW developed SMART? |
| 02:33.33 | Dagmar | That does appear to be the case |
| 02:33.54 | Dagmar | For as long as I've had this car it's had at least one trouble light lit. |
| 02:34.31 | Dagmar | At the moment it's on two. One of them might as well be a "runny nose" indicator because it's on because my left windshield squirter is blocked. |
| 02:34.57 | Dagmar | The other is an oil pan sensor indicator, which is on because well, I have no oil pan sensor. |
| 02:35.08 | Dagmar | They overlooked it when replacing my oil pan two years ago when I smashed it. |
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| 02:36.09 | Dagmar | You don't need a sensor to tell you a bump just took your oil pan off. The sound like china being thrown under the vehicle takes care the notification. |
| 02:36.45 | Adys | Warning: Your car's on fire. |
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| 02:45.24 | Dagmar | Adys: No, I'm serious. It sounded like porcelain dinner plate (welll, the bits of them) being thrown under the car |
| 02:45.51 | Dagmar | There was never any question about foot off the gas, roll to a halt in the nearest parking spot. heheh |
| 02:46.03 | Dagmar | The cops were impressed. :) |
| 02:47.41 | Ycarene | Is there a way to see how much money you've put into the guild bank via "Cash Flow"? |
| 02:48.07 | Dagmar | Not unless someone makes an addon that tracks it, all the time |
| 02:48.10 | Adys | Ycarene: calculate it off your total money looted achievement |
| 02:48.27 | Dagmar | I was wondering about that last night... particularly how high all the copper pieces would stack |
| 02:48.29 | Adys | as long as you know how much you had when the guild reached the correct level |
| 02:48.57 | Dagmar | There seems to be a lower minimum that it will report, which is 1 copper. |
| 02:49.38 | Adys | if you loot less than 20 copper, no money goes in the bank |
| 02:56.13 | Cide | who loots less than 20 copper in cataclysm? |
| 02:58.01 | Dagmar | Level 8 players. |
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| 03:22.30 | mckenziemc | falls asleep at the keyboard. |
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| 03:24.52 | Gnarfoz | also, GMs said there should be one line per day in the gbank gold log that says how much you earned, but a) haven't found it b) GMs tend to talk crazy shit all the time |
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| 03:30.57 | drag0nius | guys, is there some way to check which addon exactly is turning off my tracking abilities? |
| 03:31.07 | drag0nius | im getting em turned off like half sev after turning on ;/ |
| 03:40.02 | Dagmar | drag0nius: Do you have any addons which are meant to do *anything* with tracking abilities? |
| 03:40.09 | Dagmar | That's a pretty specific hook you're talking about. |
| 03:40.24 | Dagmar | it's not like ArkInventory or something can just accidentally flip those on or off |
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| 03:46.08 | Kameelyan | anyone around? |
| 03:47.11 | drag0nius | the thing is |
| 03:47.15 | drag0nius | i do not have any such addon |
| 03:47.26 | drag0nius | and i've no idea which one is causing this |
| 03:47.56 | drag0nius | does not give any lua errors or w/e |
| 03:48.04 | drag0nius | just turns off my tracking asap |
| 03:48.31 | Kameelyan | rawr - this is driving me nuts >< |
| 03:48.39 | Dagmar | Are you sure that it's an _addon_ then? |
| 03:48.50 | drag0nius | when i turn off all it works fine |
| 03:49.07 | Dagmar | It should be simple enough to load the UI once with all of them off and then start turning them on again in halves |
| 03:49.27 | drag0nius | most times different addons match |
| 03:49.29 | drag0nius | or likely 2-3 |
| 03:49.34 | Dagmar | What? |
| 03:49.44 | Dagmar | Different addons match what? |
| 03:49.46 | drag0nius | its randomly when i turn on some of 3 addons |
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| 03:49.55 | drag0nius | SCT/MSBT/Carbonite and idk which other |
| 03:49.57 | Dagmar | Which three? |
| 03:50.04 | drag0nius | sometimes it works fine |
| 03:50.07 | drag0nius | sometimes bugs out |
| 03:50.08 | Dagmar | Well, I highly doubt it's ACT. |
| 03:50.11 | Dagmar | er SCT. |
| 03:50.29 | Dagmar | It's probably Carbonite |
| 03:50.41 | drag0nius | i have it turned off for a month xd |
| 03:50.52 | Dagmar | SCT and MSBT don't have anything that would even attempt to touch your tracking |
| 03:51.01 | drag0nius | thats the thing |
| 03:51.18 | drag0nius | but it somehow does |
| 03:51.30 | Dagmar | This isn't religion. |
| 03:51.33 | Dagmar | It's computer science. |
| 03:52.11 | Dagmar | There's no faceless bit matrix involved where a swapped 1 and 0 can make an entirely different something happen |
| 03:52.44 | Dagmar | go without Carbonite on and the problem will likely not happen anymore |
| 03:53.00 | drag0nius | i dont have carbonite for a month |
| 03:53.06 | drag0nius | cos it sometimes helped to turn it off |
| 03:53.11 | drag0nius | so i totally deleted |
| 03:53.27 | Dagmar | Then why did you mention Carbonite |
| 03:53.42 | airtonix | because its fun to |
| 03:53.42 | drag0nius | because i tried turning off addons month ago |
| 03:53.43 | Kameelyan | Are you trolling dude :p? |
| 03:53.46 | drag0nius | then didnt need to use trackings ;d |
| 03:53.59 | drag0nius | and now i do cos of leveling hunter-miner ;d |
| 03:54.06 | Dagmar | WEll, good luck to you. I recommend holy water. |
| 03:54.23 | Kameelyan | dagmar, got a question for you |
| 03:54.25 | Kameelyan | if you don't mind |
| 03:54.26 | Dagmar | A gallon or so applied directly to the motherboard will probably fix it. |
| 03:54.38 | airtonix | i have four hundred crates of holy water for sale |
| 03:54.43 | Dagmar | Kameelyan: Shore |
| 03:54.48 | airtonix | four thousan wolons each |
| 03:54.57 | Kameelyan | I'm running this piece of lua |
| 03:54.58 | Kameelyan | local useRaidStyleInParty = _G["InterfaceOptionsUnitFramePanelRaidStylePartyFrames"]:GetChecked(); |
| 03:55.19 | Kameelyan | based on a mouseover/getframe script I'm pretty sure that's the checkbutton for unit frame (raid style party frames) |
| 03:55.21 | Dagmar | Cor. Look at the size of that variable |
| 03:55.30 | Dagmar | What must it have needed feeding as a child |
| 03:55.33 | airtonix | giggidy |
| 03:55.43 | Kameelyan | however, it always returns nil - even when it's checked in the blizzard UI |
| 03:55.45 | Kameelyan | any thoughts? |
| 03:55.55 | airtonix | yeah make it go vegetarian |
| 03:56.06 | Kameelyan | i didn't name the damn thing :P |
| 03:56.06 | airtonix | a meat diet is clearly too much |
| 03:56.29 | Dagmar | Kameelyan: It's make sure that gigantic monstrosity is actaully the right gigantic monstrosity |
| 03:56.45 | Dagmar | It's not like you can have a typo in _G |
| 03:56.56 | Kameelyan | it does exist, I've printed it out |
| 03:57.03 | Kameelyan | as a test |
| 03:57.14 | Dagmar | You printed nil? |
| 03:58.00 | drag0nius | hmm think i found which addons is it |
| 03:58.00 | Dagmar | Why would you apply GetChecked() to that? |
| 03:58.03 | drag0nius | seems like AutoQuest2 now |
| 03:58.56 | Kameelyan | I'm trying to determine if the check button is checked or not? |
| 03:58.57 | Dagmar | Kameelyan: I *thought* getChecked() is only useful erm "against" buttons, so to speak. You're poking a global with it that's already going to be rather boolean-shaped |
| 04:00.44 | drag0nius | what AQ2 might have to do with tracking abilities? o.O |
| 04:02.22 | Dagmar | Kameelyan: I'm moderately sure you shouldn't be trying to probe part of the table of global variables with that function because it's unnecessary. |
| 04:02.45 | Xzempt | does anyone know the frame name for the chat settigns frame |
| 04:02.48 | Dagmar | It's probably returning nil as a more polite way of not putting a dialog up that says "Do I look like a checkbox to you?" |
| 04:03.06 | Kameelyan | Dagmar: Isn't it a checkbox though? |
| 04:03.12 | Kameelyan | How is it not a checkbox? |
| 04:03.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah i cant even find that frame in the framexml |
| 04:03.31 | Kameelyan | it exists, run a mouseover/getframe macro on it and you'll see |
| 04:03.38 | Arrowmaster | i cant |
| 04:03.42 | Dagmar | It might be the same name as a checkbox, but as far as I know everything in _G is just a global value |
| 04:04.08 | Arrowmaster | whats _["InterfaceOptionsUnitFramePanelRaidStylePartyFrames"]:GetType() |
| 04:04.26 | Dagmar | Good call. I couldn't rmeember wtf the type inspectors were |
| 04:04.56 | Kameelyan | I thought it was GetFrameType, but that errors. GetTYpe also errors |
| 04:05.03 | Kameelyan | print(_G["InterfaceOptionsUnitFramePanelRaidStylePartyFrames"]:GetType()); |
| 04:05.10 | Arrowmaster | GetObjectType |
| 04:05.12 | Arrowmaster | that should work |
| 04:05.57 | Kameelyan | print(_G["InterfaceOptionsUnitFramePanelRaidStylePartyFrames"]:GetObjectType()); |
| 04:06.01 | Kameelyan | yeilds: CHECKBUTTON |
| 04:06.39 | Dagmar | Well, that's pretty convincing then |
| 04:08.25 | Arrowmaster | bah no wonder i cant find it, wowprogramming still has 3.3.5 framexml |
| 04:08.37 | Kameelyan | yep, they haven't realsed the new toolkit yet |
| 04:08.44 | Kameelyan | which is why this is harder than it should be >< |
| 04:09.03 | airtonix | wut |
| 04:09.25 | Dagmar | I get like *two* hits for it in Google and neither are all that useful |
| 04:09.37 | Dagmar | I wonder if they've done something weird and protected it |
| 04:09.48 | Arrowmaster | found it in https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/InterfaceOptionsPanels.xml |
| 04:10.27 | Dagmar | I see it show up in something called LuaWoW.xml from someone's "luawow" project on Googlecode |
| 04:10.53 | Arrowmaster | GetCVar("useCompactPartyFrames") |
| 04:10.56 | Arrowmaster | use that to test it |
| 04:11.10 | Arrowmaster | its better than checking the state of a checkbox |
| 04:11.33 | Kameelyan | wait, how did you figure that out!? |
| 04:11.43 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Are those things only pollable when they're on screen? |
| 04:11.53 | Arrowmaster | they probably are |
| 04:12.02 | Arrowmaster | i found the code in that page i linked |
| 04:12.07 | Arrowmaster | thats where i pulled the cvar from |
| 04:12.54 | Kameelyan | Yea, but print(GetCVar("useCompactPartyFrames")); |
| 04:12.59 | Kameelyan | yields: zero |
| 04:13.03 | Kameelyan | even though it's checked in my options >< |
| 04:13.30 | Mikk | that sounds fun |
| 04:14.35 | Arrowmaster | i seriously have no fucking clue anymore, i dont know what the hell the programmer was thinking coding up these damn options |
| 04:14.41 | Dagmar | Euw... Now I see why it's such a mouthful for a varname |
| 04:15.16 | Mikk | Kameelyan: works for me |
| 04:15.38 | Kameelyan | Mikk: Is it yeilding "1"? |
| 04:15.47 | Arrowmaster | because they fucking use xml and the damn $parent keyword everywhere |
| 04:15.49 | Mikk | Toggling "Use Raid-Style Party Frames" and /print GetCVar("useCompactPartyFrames") yields "1" |
| 04:15.59 | Kameelyan | hm |
| 04:16.05 | Mikk | are you toggling something else? =) |
| 04:16.22 | Arrowmaster | seriously though i dont see where in the code it even sets the fucking cvar, only where it gets it on load |
| 04:16.22 | Kameelyan | no, but i wonder if when i had Grid installed it f'd something up |
| 04:16.49 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It *builds* the damn thing up from $parentRestofBloodyString |
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| 04:17.35 | Dagmar | I started searching for parts of the name and found a mess around line 2816 |
| 04:18.35 | Arrowmaster | seriously i cant see where this fucking thing stores the value or anything else, all it seems to do is change the visibility of another option |
| 04:19.16 | Dagmar | There's a man doing something you'd rather not se behind that curtain |
| 04:19.19 | Mikk | are we still talking about useCompactPartyFrames |
| 04:20.09 | Mikk | CompactPartyFrame.lua: 32: if ( GetCVarBool("useCompactPartyFrames") and GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 and GetNumRaidMembers() == 0 ) then |
| 04:20.48 | Arrowmaster | ok looks like some common function does the setting of the cvar thats inherited by the templates |
| 04:21.11 | Mikk | hello can you hear me |
| 04:21.20 | Kameelyan | AH HA |
| 04:21.24 | Kameelyan | you're right arrow |
| 04:21.26 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: yes |
| 04:21.36 | Kameelyan | if i put these two lines of code in to my addon: |
| 04:21.37 | Kameelyan | print(GetCVar("useCompactPartyFrames")); print(GetCVar("raidOptionDisplayPets")); |
| 04:21.41 | Kameelyan | both yield zero |
| 04:21.42 | Kameelyan | BUT |
| 04:21.48 | Kameelyan | if i run them in game, they both yield 1 |
| 04:21.58 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 04:22.01 | Mikk | you're probably doing it before VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 04:22.05 | Arrowmaster | you are doing this from your addon? |
| 04:22.05 | Dagmar | makes the sign of the cross |
| 04:22.08 | Arrowmaster | thats the problem |
| 04:22.25 | Mikk | CVar's arent loaded until after VARIABLES_LOADED |
| 04:22.36 | Dagmar | Mik++ |
| 04:22.51 | tekkub | Mik++ == Mikk |
| 04:22.57 | Dagmar | Something like that yeah |
| 04:23.09 | Mikk | C++ = Ck? |
| 04:24.06 | Kameelyan | Hm, did not know that - thanks |
| 04:24.13 | Kameelyan | this is my first addon, so yea |
| 04:25.37 | Dagmar | I'm only used to dealing with them at times you shoudln't... like when they're already loaded and running and the sharper bits can snatch fingers off |
| 04:29.56 | mckenziemc | tell me, are you hot, momma? you sure look that way to me! |
| 04:30.08 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 04:30.20 | mckenziemc | i'm hot blooded, hot blooded |
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| 04:31.32 | kd3 | grr. hate tanks/healers dropping after a wipe |
| 04:33.38 | Dagmar | The tank and the healer *both* made for the exits? |
| 04:33.47 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:33.50 | Dagmar | Wow |
| 04:33.53 | kd3 | now, I know it's h-sfk, but still. grr |
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| 04:47.56 | Ycarene | What's the stat weighting for prot pallies? Mastery->Parry/Dodge->Expertise->Hit? |
| 04:51.59 | Kameelyan | Really depends on what your other values are at as well |
| 04:52.00 | Kameelyan | http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110338-cataclysm_tanking_protection_field_manual_updated_jan_3_2011_4_0_3a/ |
| 04:54.40 | p3lim | Id like to know how the list of cursor paths found here is gathered: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetCursor |
| 04:56.46 | Kraps | Bornakk hasent been around, sup with him? |
| 04:57.08 | Nobgul|Sleep | p3lim, I have them the patch i think somewhere |
| 04:57.14 | Nobgul|Sleep | path* |
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| 04:57.47 | Nobgul|Sleep | I can look if you are interested in it |
| 04:57.59 | p3lim | Would be great |
| 05:00.28 | Nobgul|Sleep | i have the list.. |
| 05:01.18 | Nobgul|Sleep | 1 sec |
| 05:04.06 | Kraps | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/08/amnesia-nearing-200k-units-sold/ |
| 05:04.28 | Nobgul|Sleep | p3lim |
| 05:04.29 | Nobgul|Sleep | Interface\CURSOR\Directions.blp |
| 05:04.34 | Nobgul|Sleep | that what your looking for? |
| 05:05.31 | Nobgul|Sleep | http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/8998086 |
| 05:08.31 | airtonix | Kraps, hoho making games for linux is not profitable |
| 05:08.36 | Corrodias2 | i don't even know what constitutes large numbers of sales these days |
| 05:10.57 | Kraps | airtonix: umad? |
| 05:11.11 | Kraps | get a real OS |
| 05:11.38 | airtonix | im sorry |
| 05:11.48 | airtonix | but |
| 05:11.50 | airtonix | nou |
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| 05:27.20 | karl_w_w | DOS is a real operating system, anything other than that is just UI |
| 05:33.25 | airtonix | they won't listen bro |
| 05:33.36 | airtonix | shiny distract the sleeping giant |
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| 05:47.57 | KarlKFI | anyone know russian? |
| 05:48.18 | KarlKFI | i had two people supply localization updates and i dont know which to choose |
| 05:49.55 | Nobgul|Sleep | yes |
| 05:50.03 | Nobgul|Sleep | Kinda, Post them up and ill look at them |
| 05:50.15 | KarlKFI | hmm. wonder what the easiest way to do this is |
| 05:50.34 | Nobgul|Sleep | umm |
| 05:50.40 | Nobgul|Sleep | paste.isoverninethousand.info |
| 05:50.44 | Nobgul|Sleep | u can post it up on my site |
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| 05:53.45 | KarlKFI | English: http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/2899594 |
| 05:53.53 | KarlKFI | prev version: http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/71710024 |
| 05:54.04 | KarlKFI | Option 1: http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/2325371 |
| 05:54.10 | KarlKFI | Option 2: http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/28708626 |
| 05:54.18 | KarlKFI | i suspect i need some combination |
| 05:55.04 | KarlKFI | the Capital Cities and channel names bellow them need to be identical to what WoW uses |
| 05:57.20 | KarlKFI | I suspect the option 1 ones are more accurate |
| 05:57.54 | Nobgul|Sleep | My wife isn't awake i thought she was she speaks and reads russian. Sorry I can have her look at it tommorow though if you want |
| 05:58.34 | KarlKFI | sure. if you can email me when it's done: karlkfi@yahoo.com |
| 05:59.01 | Nobgul|Sleep | Sure. Ill ask her to look it over. |
| 05:59.06 | KarlKFI | thanks |
| 06:00.23 | Jamash | Chuck Norris doesn't sleep(1), he wait(3)s |
| 06:01.00 | KarlKFI | he'd prolly roundhouse that localization until it was right |
| 06:10.53 | Torhal | Jamash: You should make a Druid named Chucknourish |
| 06:20.11 | Landrell | >.< |
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| 06:48.00 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 06:48.02 | Fisker | help me |
| 06:48.08 | Fisker | i'm a noob :( |
| 06:49.43 | Nobgul|Sleep | he admints it! |
| 06:49.51 | Nobgul|Sleep | Screenshot time. Front page of the website! |
| 06:51.13 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1417738735?page=2#39 |
| 06:52.38 | Nobgul|Sleep | ok and? |
| 06:53.47 | Fisker | i'm a noob and don't get to post because i upset his idiot trip :( |
| 06:54.46 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol |
| 06:54.49 | Nobgul|Sleep | You got banned? |
| 06:55.59 | Fisker | why would i get banned? |
| 06:56.38 | Nobgul|Sleep | oh i thought they banned you from the forums for something |
| 06:56.56 | Fisker | naw |
| 06:57.24 | Fisker | just some idiot who thinks that fortune cards are the only source of gambling in the game |
| 06:57.40 | Fisker | and that Blizzard are hypocrites for putting them in the game |
| 06:58.31 | Nobgul|Sleep | aww eu forums i couldnt even post if i wanted to |
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| 06:59.05 | Fisker | moo: net: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller - 100MB/s 12.83GB In 12.07GB Out |
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| 06:59.51 | Nobgul|Sleep | Network Interfaces: (#1 (NETGEAR WG111v2 54Mbps Wireless USB 2.0 Adapter - Packet Scheduler Miniport (54Mb/s) 3178.26MB In, 2031.34MB Out)) |
| 07:00.06 | Nobgul|Sleep | I restarted this morning |
| 07:00.13 | Nobgul|Sleep | Video Card: (nVidia GeForce GTS 450) ¤ Sound Card: (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) |
| 07:00.40 | Fisker | imma sleep |
| 07:03.13 | Nobgul|Sleep | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1925557 |
| 07:05.34 | Landrell | Nob, I think I just died a little inside. |
| 07:05.40 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol |
| 07:07.23 | Landrell | Besides, aren't you supposed to be asleep? :P |
| 07:07.39 | Nobgul|Sleep | naw |
| 07:07.44 | Nobgul|Sleep | im just to lazy to change it |
| 07:08.03 | Landrell | hah |
| 07:08.10 | Shirik | hey guys |
| 07:08.14 | Shirik | Random question |
| 07:08.22 | Shirik | Let's say you have two cells, and one is used in the calculation of the other |
| 07:08.25 | Shirik | in excel |
| 07:08.34 | Shirik | Can you make a graph from just those two cells? |
| 07:08.43 | Shirik | like, as the first one varies where does the second one go? |
| 07:08.53 | Nobgul|Sleep | You should be able to. |
| 07:09.42 | Nobgul|Sleep | Been a while, but I reckon thats how i used to do it. |
| 07:10.27 | Landrell | I don't see why you couldn't. |
| 07:13.35 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:13.41 | Shirik | this was not intended to be a yes or no question |
| 07:13.42 | Shirik | "how" :P |
| 07:13.52 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol i dont have excell installed. Only open office =P |
| 07:25.35 | airtonix | Fisker, umadbro? |
| 07:26.07 | airtonix | gives Fisker [Mysterious Fortune Card] |
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| 07:30.11 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol |
| 07:34.27 | Shirik | omg |
| 07:34.35 | Shirik | I was theorycrafting in guild chat |
| 07:34.43 | Shirik | someone ends up linking me a fortune card |
| 07:35.10 | Shirik | it says "The beginning of wisdom is to desire it. The end of wisdom is to theorycraft." |
| 07:36.05 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 07:38.25 | Nobgul|Sleep | damn Fisker, You have a ton of achiv points |
| 07:52.26 | Shirik | The bots are taking over!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlockList?limit=10 |
| 07:56.49 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol |
| 07:57.23 | Shirik | oh damn procseebot is owning me |
| 07:57.39 | Shirik | my TorNodeBot only gets a block every few minutes |
| 07:59.46 | Nobgul|Sleep | i honestly have no clue what your talking about, but i assume its important |
| 08:00.19 | Shirik | oh |
| 08:00.35 | Shirik | the Special:BlockList page on Wikipedia shows all of the blocked users on Wikipedia, with the most recent first |
| 08:00.44 | Shirik | that the page is mostly blocks by ProcseeBot and TorNodeBot is scary |
| 08:01.26 | Nobgul|Sleep | well i know the tor bot is yours |
| 08:02.09 | Shirik | ProcseeBot is one by another that does something similar |
| 08:05.08 | Nobgul|Sleep | i dont get the whole wikipedia thing it seems so over complicated |
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| 08:06.06 | Shirik | what's complicated? :P |
| 08:06.33 | Nobgul|Sleep | omg |
| 08:06.54 | Nobgul|Sleep | so when you download sctarcraft from bnet cause i cant find my dvd. it dl's the orig version and needs to be fully patched |
| 08:08.08 | Nobgul|Sleep | I dont know Shirik, It just seems overly complicated the whole wikipedia thing. editing pages and blah blah. i dunno |
| 08:11.03 | airtonix | don't you jsut love it ? |
| 08:11.53 | airtonix | Deathmarch Projects |
| 08:13.37 | Nobgul|Sleep | Bandwidth: (Current Downstream: 822.23kb/s ¤ Current Upstream: 10.23kb/s) |
| 08:14.05 | Thunder_Child | Nobgul|Sleep: must you constantly do that? |
| 08:14.23 | airtonix | it's cheaper to make your customers to pay for bandwidth/time than it is to keep contracted programmers on for long enough to create a scalable auto patching |
| 08:15.07 | Nobgul|Sleep | Thunder_Child, Sorry checking bandwith. =P ill do it in another chan |
| 08:15.27 | Thunder_Child | Nobgul|Sleep: i think you can /msg yourself |
| 08:15.29 | airtonix | you need irc for that ? |
| 08:15.48 | Nobgul|Sleep | not reallyt i could use a bw meter |
| 08:15.54 | Nobgul|Sleep | Bot i have irc open =) |
| 08:15.57 | Nobgul|Sleep | but |
| 08:16.11 | airtonix | every operating system has native bandwidth tools |
| 08:16.34 | Nobgul|Sleep | of course |
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| 08:22.22 | Shirik | Nobgul|Sleep |
| 08:22.25 | Shirik | you push edit |
| 08:22.29 | Shirik | you type stuff |
| 08:22.31 | Shirik | you click save |
| 08:22.35 | Shirik | page now says what you typed |
| 08:22.54 | Shirik | Don't get me wrong, wikipedia is immensely complicated, to a point of stupidity really |
| 08:22.58 | Shirik | but this isn't :) |
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| 09:18.17 | airtonix | Akira (2013) Part one of a two-part live action adaptation of the 1988 anime film, "Akira", in which the leader of a biker gang tries to save his kidnapped friend from a powerful supernatural experiment. |
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| 09:18.35 | airtonix | morgan freeman is in akira, your argument is irrelevant |
| 09:23.43 | Trela | What. |
| 09:27.05 | Corrodias2 | i hope he plays every role. |
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| 09:37.05 | Shirik | i really don't understand the whole "your argument is irrelevant" thing |
| 09:37.21 | Shirik | isn't it "invalid" anyway? |
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| 10:09.38 | Fisker | i'm sick Shirik |
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| 10:11.24 | Nobgul | we know |
| 10:12.30 | airtonix | Fisker, guess which role Morgan Freeman will play in the upcoming Akira movie |
| 10:14.21 | Zyn | Kaneda |
| 10:14.36 | airtonix | lol'd |
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| 10:18.56 | Fisker | your mom airtonix |
| 10:24.50 | Fisker | i will destroy you Shirik |
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| 10:39.24 | Nobgul | burp |
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| 10:44.26 | harl | huhu |
| 10:45.44 | Nobgul | >_< |
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| 11:06.03 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:06.19 | Arrowmaster | since the [nodead] has no effect on what gets targeted |
| 11:06.31 | pigeon | hmm, right |
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| 12:04.54 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbP2zIa9HIM |
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| 12:10.38 | pigeon | hmm why does /stopmacro [exists] seems to always stop even i have no target? |
| 12:11.45 | pigeon | or it seems that /targetenemyplayer is doign something weird when there is no enemyplayer around. |
| 12:18.40 | wereHamster | how do people deal with embedded libraries nowadays? In the distant past, when everyone was using svn, we were using svn:externals. Now with git, do people use submodules? |
| 12:20.08 | Arrowmaster | if you are using wowace/curseforge people use .pkgmeta |
| 12:20.59 | Arrowmaster | otherwise there is no way to do it if there is a difference in VCS between addon and library |
| 12:21.13 | wereHamster | what difference? |
| 12:22.18 | Arrowmaster | one uses svn other uses git, that kinda difference |
| 12:22.43 | wereHamster | is the pkgmeta format described somewhere? |
| 12:22.52 | wereHamster | and does wowi also support pkgmeta? |
| 12:23.02 | Arrowmaster | wowi does not |
| 12:23.41 | Arrowmaster | its a wowace/curseforge only thing, and documentation is here http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 12:23.56 | Arrowmaster | wowi is svn only afaik anyway |
| 12:24.11 | wereHamster | no, you can create git repos three |
| 12:24.21 | wereHamster | no idea if it's new, but it's definitely possible |
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| 12:28.06 | Arrowmaster | seems extremely new, theres nothing about it in the faq even |
| 12:28.28 | Arrowmaster | so it might or might not even support submodules |
| 12:28.48 | Arrowmaster | since a simple git archive doesnt |
| 12:40.44 | Fisker | Arrowmastermen |
| 12:47.38 | bluspacecow | whats the maximum level for herbing ? |
| 12:54.30 | cbreak | 525 |
| 12:54.42 | cbreak | same as for all trade skills |
| 12:55.05 | cbreak | 75 for each tier |
| 12:57.34 | bluspacecow | ty cbreak |
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| 13:04.57 | Mikk | wereHamster: If writing a library, you really should use svn. It's the lowest common denominator. |
| 13:05.08 | Mikk | Yes I realize people on wowace/cf can pull any kind in with pkgmeta |
| 13:05.12 | Mikk | But not all projects are on wowace/cf |
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| 13:15.32 | wereHamster | no, never. I wont' go back to svn |
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| 13:30.24 | wereHamster | I just found out something really cool: "## OptionalDeps: foo git@github.com/... master". wow parses that as an optinoal dep. on foo and ignores the rest. That way I can keep the deps inside the toc file :) |
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| 13:41.31 | bluspacecow | whats that bit i fed to purl to see what the news on the login screen is again ? |
| 13:54.39 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:54.42 | Fisker | i need a motherboard |
| 13:54.48 | Fisker | ~wowalert |
| 13:54.48 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 13:54.53 | Fisker | jersk |
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| 13:56.17 | foxlit | Dear Ungoro: I hate you. |
| 13:56.43 | Fisker | no foxlit |
| 13:56.45 | Fisker | DON'T DO IT |
| 14:02.16 | d[karl]b | somebody should work out how to hack in and change that alert page |
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| 14:13.21 | bluspacecow | ty fisker |
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| 14:18.12 | Fisker | no u bluspacecow |
| 14:18.24 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 14:19.20 | Jamash | what's up mentlegen |
| 14:19.27 | Jamash | and fiskers |
| 14:19.53 | Fisker | die Jamash |
| 14:19.55 | Fisker | i need a motherboard |
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| 14:27.52 | bluspacecow | and a father board |
| 14:28.28 | Fisker | no such thing bluspacecow |
| 14:28.38 | bluspacecow | how about a cupboard |
| 14:31.45 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/150137/yah-im-gonna-need-refund-of-2k-for-dualspec |
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| 14:32.13 | Jamash | I'm going to need a refund of the time I spent reading that guy's QQ post |
| 14:35.39 | bluspacecow | havent even read the thread and i think |
| 14:35.51 | bluspacecow | "the entitlement is strong in this one" |
| 14:36.03 | Jamash | did they patch the ptr in the past five minutes? |
| 14:36.22 | Kraps | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/01/05/apb-reloaded-beta-scheduled-for-february/ |
| 14:37.22 | Fisker | kisses bluspacecow |
| 14:37.34 | bluspacecow | *shrug* Jamash |
| 14:37.37 | bluspacecow | :) Fisker |
| 14:38.04 | Jamash | 'cause I logged in to the ptr, then logged out, then ran the launcher and it says 800MB to download |
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| 14:43.56 | bluspacecow | interesting jamash ... any new wow-update files in your data folder ? |
| 14:44.28 | bluspacecow | build 13449 was the latest build last time i checked ... which was this afternoon |
| 14:44.40 | Fisker | i killed you bluspacecow |
| 14:44.41 | Jamash | same |
| 14:44.42 | Fisker | i watched you die |
| 14:44.47 | bluspacecow | X_X |
| 14:44.49 | bluspacecow | *dies* |
| 14:45.00 | Jamash | I think it's probably just downloading data it hadn't because I hadn't created any characters yet |
| 14:45.02 | bluspacecow | ??? |
| 14:45.06 | bluspacecow | jamash killed me too |
| 14:45.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:45.14 | Jamash | with kindness |
| 14:45.24 | Fisker | we're huge jersk |
| 14:50.08 | Kraps | ~killed |
| 14:50.08 | purl | I once killed a Fisker! |
| 14:51.04 | Fisker | i farted Kraps |
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| 15:06.40 | bluspacecow | i once fiskered a killer. |
| 15:06.47 | bluspacecow | it was most turnip. |
| 15:19.38 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:19.49 | bluspacecow | ni ni fisker |
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| 15:42.26 | Kraps | double kill? thats a triple kill, get it right game! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDfPVe-S7U&feature=player_embedded |
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| 15:54.15 | ZorbaTHut | I like how wow sometimes just decides not to download item data for certain items |
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| 16:24.02 | Jamash | yeah that's awesome |
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| 16:30.41 | Kraps | ~wiki Joni Adijo Bloch |
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| 17:17.27 | Olison | Adys: ping |
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| 17:39.37 | Shirik | so the doctor treating those at the shooting from yesterday says |
| 17:39.42 | Shirik | "No one that should have died ... died. Everyone else is being transferred out of ICU." |
| 17:39.51 | Shirik | Implying that some should have died? |
| 17:41.23 | Kraps | there was a shooting? |
| 17:42.17 | Shirik | .........dude |
| 17:42.20 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 17:43.02 | Shirik | ~wiki 2011 Tucson shooting |
| 17:43.09 | Shirik | fail |
| 17:43.22 | Shirik | The 2011 Tucson shooting occurred on Saturday, January 8, 2011. Eighteen people were shot, six of them fatally, during a United States congresswoman's meeting with constituents held in a supermarket parking lot in Casas Adobes, a suburb of Tucson.[4][5] The dead include a nine-year-old girl; a congressional aide; and John McCarthy Roll, the chief judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona.[4][1] |
| 17:43.49 | Kraps | :( |
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| 17:44.57 | Elkano | I don't get why the child has to get an extra mention... |
| 17:45.15 | Shirik | Elkano: That's how humanity works |
| 17:46.02 | Elkano | maybe I'm too much into statistics then :/ |
| 17:46.34 | foxlit | "Shirik: Implying that some should have died?" << clearly the implied meaning is medical |
| 17:46.53 | foxlit | People whose wounds were sufficient to ordinarily die have not died. |
| 17:47.02 | Shirik | also |
| 17:47.04 | Shirik | ~wiki User talk:Jaha -geer damani |
| 17:48.49 | Kraps | is currently listening to <silence> |
| 17:48.58 | Kraps | untrue |
| 17:53.50 | Thunder_Child | LIES! |
| 17:54.01 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.33 | Thunder_Child | hey Kraps |
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| 18:03.09 | ckknight | hey, anyone know if there's a way to call one macro from another? |
| 18:03.23 | Dewin | Sort of ... /click |
| 18:03.29 | Thunder_Child | cellphone? |
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| 18:07.01 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 18:07.08 | Fisker | vent på mig |
| 18:07.18 | ckknight | squeal, piggy! |
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| 18:08.45 | Shirik | hey |
| 18:08.46 | Shirik | Cide |
| 18:08.55 | Shirik | that's why I call it po! |
| 18:09.02 | Shirik | see |
| 18:09.23 | Cide | I know how it's spelt |
| 18:09.32 | Cide | but it's not pronounced like po |
| 18:09.42 | Cide | and på is not pronounced like å :P |
| 18:10.00 | Shirik | what do you mean it's not pronounced like po |
| 18:10.13 | Cide | there is no p-sound in å |
| 18:10.28 | Shirik | there is in på |
| 18:10.31 | Cide | yes |
| 18:10.36 | Shirik | what do you call å anyway? |
| 18:10.43 | Cide | it's a vowel |
| 18:11.02 | Cide | so there's only one sound, not two as in po |
| 18:11.23 | Shirik | Unicode calls it "Latin Small Letter A With Ring Above" |
| 18:11.34 | Cide | unicode is quite literal about things |
| 18:13.00 | Cide | anyway på and å do not sound the same |
| 18:13.12 | Cide | so you can't logically call å "po" |
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| 18:17.54 | Cide | but you can call på "po" to quite decent an approximation |
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| 18:23.20 | Shirik | but you didn't answer my question |
| 18:23.24 | Shirik | what is å |
| 18:23.28 | foxlit | å is å! |
| 18:23.36 | foxlit | what is a? |
| 18:23.40 | Shirik | how do you pronounce it? |
| 18:23.48 | Shirik | a is pronounced "ey" |
| 18:24.07 | foxlit | unless it's "pander" |
| 18:24.51 | foxlit | but surely wikipedia has the answer to your question |
| 18:24.51 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85 |
| 18:25.43 | Cide | kinda like "oh" |
| 18:26.05 | Cide | but only kinda |
| 18:26.31 | Shirik | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Close-mid_back_rounded_vowel.ogg |
| 18:26.33 | Shirik | like this? |
| 18:26.38 | Cide | ya |
| 18:26.46 | Cide | though that guy sounds like he's about to fart or something |
| 18:26.59 | Cide | but that's it |
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| 18:28.42 | Cide | so closer to "aw" I guess |
| 18:29.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:29.51 | Shirik | about to fart |
| 18:30.58 | Stanzilla | foxlit: any idea why opie is sometimes using like 2mb of memory? |
| 18:31.05 | Stanzilla | and ~around 700k normally |
| 18:31.46 | Dewin | foxlit's the oPie person? I need to pay more attention to these things. |
| 18:32.47 | foxlit | News to me, really |
| 18:32.59 | foxlit | I can't even use the "BUT THE LIBRARIES!" excuse :/ |
| 18:33.16 | Dewin | foxlit: The 2MB part, or the you being the opie author part? |
| 18:33.18 | Stanzilla | yeah :p |
| 18:33.20 | Kraps | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_and_the_Chamber_of_Secrets&curid=163234&diff=406904388&oldid=406903717 |
| 18:34.00 | foxlit | Stanzilla: what's "sometimes," though? |
| 18:34.11 | foxlit | Dewin: the former. |
| 18:34.12 | Stanzilla | foxlit: i just noticed it twice |
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| 18:34.15 | Stanzilla | just now |
| 18:34.26 | Stanzilla | down to 1.54mb now tho |
| 18:34.53 | foxlit | It stays at like 470 for me |
| 18:35.15 | Dewin | foxlit: I wanted to just make a minor complaint about the fact that a recent build reset my tradeskills bar to defaults without warning and I had them all customized, but that's okay and I've already mostly re-fixed it. :-p Love the addon though. |
| 18:36.03 | Cide | Auc-ScanData 37mb! |
| 18:36.06 | Cide | BLOATTTT |
| 18:36.21 | mckenziemc | lots of data* |
| 18:36.44 | Dewin | Cide must have a smaller auction house. Mine is 43MB. |
| 18:36.44 | Cide | trolled* |
| 18:37.06 | foxlit | Dewin: I was contemplating adding a warning about that recently, but it's sort of a pain :) |
| 18:37.06 | Cide | only scanned once |
| 18:37.14 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 18:37.34 | mckenziemc | and sorry, just got up from a nap so i'm not thinking straight :p |
| 18:37.43 | Cide | what do people use opie for btw? |
| 18:37.52 | Cide | I find it most useful for tradeskills and raid symbols |
| 18:38.00 | Dewin | I use keybinds for raid symbols |
| 18:38.17 | Dewin | I use opie for anything that I don't need at a moment's notice, and mounting. |
| 18:38.29 | Stanzilla | custom ring that has all the stuff I dont want in my bars |
| 18:38.34 | Stanzilla | like buffs |
| 18:38.35 | Stanzilla | mount |
| 18:38.35 | Dewin | since it's tap ` to mount, hold ` to get to stuff like hearthstone/etc, alt+t for tradeskills |
| 18:38.36 | Stanzilla | etc |
| 18:38.46 | Shirik | people use ` for a keybind? |
| 18:38.51 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 18:39.28 | Dagmar | Voiceactivated ventrilo isn't a big deal if you're used to mic discipline |
| 18:39.40 | Shirik | ` is kinda "open console" for me |
| 18:40.10 | Dewin | my PTT is a mousebutton |
| 18:40.12 | Dagmar | hehe a programmer console in WoW.... LOL |
| 18:40.17 | Cide | wow's console is pretty useless |
| 18:40.44 | Stanzilla | my ptt is ctrl :( |
| 18:40.55 | Dewin | Did you see they're adding a console command to extract the interface data/art? |
| 18:40.57 | mckenziemc | well yeah, without gm commands ;) |
| 18:41.09 | Cide | you realize they have a gui for that right_ |
| 18:41.10 | Cide | ? |
| 18:41.11 | Dagmar | Dewin: I'm pleased aobut that |
| 18:41.27 | Dagmar | I can finally erase a bunch of files I'm not sure if I still need anymore or not becasue of that |
| 18:42.19 | Dewin | Cide: The gui for interface data/art? Doesn't work with 4.x |
| 18:42.23 | Dagmar | I've never, ever reinstalled the client. Loose files you didn't think about much four years ago tend to pile up |
| 18:42.38 | Cide | gm commands |
| 18:42.46 | Dewin | oh. |
| 18:43.03 | Dewin | I imagine not everything's in the gui |
| 18:43.19 | Cide | I imagine everything is |
| 18:43.25 | Dewin | Particularly brand new or higher-level stuff that hasn't quite made it into the gui yet. |
| 18:43.44 | Fisker | ah |
| 18:43.45 | Dewin | Stuff your typical first-tier GM does? Yeah, probably is. |
| 18:43.46 | Cide | having a developer add in a button > teaching potentially hundreds of people a command |
| 18:43.54 | Fisker | i like dying in the start of encounters due to another persons mistake |
| 18:44.18 | Dagmar | Fiske: ...because for once, it's not you? |
| 18:44.26 | Fisker | naw Dagmar |
| 18:44.29 | Fisker | but it isn't me |
| 18:44.32 | Fisker | + i can relax |
| 18:44.34 | mckenziemc | giving console access for people willing to use it > forcing everyone to always use a console |
| 18:44.39 | Fisker | unless they combat res me |
| 18:44.43 | Dagmar | Ah. Hehe yeah I can see that one |
| 18:45.16 | mckenziemc | your point wan't particularly relevant anyway, unless you meant to say they -don't- have console versions of the commands |
| 18:46.01 | Cide | my point was that I doubt most gm's ever use the console |
| 18:46.59 | Dewin | So do I. But there's probably a few random esoteric commands that are console-only for whatever reason |
| 18:47.20 | Dewin | which might explain why some GMs know how to do some things and others have to escalate |
| 18:47.29 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 18:47.40 | Cide | Shirik: alt 134 or alt 143 |
| 18:47.42 | Dagmar | That's more likely a matter of _knowing how to do things_ versus not |
| 18:47.47 | Cide | for Ã¥ and Ã
respectively |
| 18:48.04 | Dewin | There's a bug that occasionally causes characters to get desynced from the world, so they instantly D/C upon login. It's a 5 second GM fix, and some GMs don't know how to do it. |
| 18:48.20 | mikma | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/a913a750-92df-4700-9dc4-2083f30dee3f.jpg |
| 18:48.50 | Dagmar | mikma: I'm sure Canada is so proud |
| 18:49.02 | foxlit | Stanzilla: upon zoning, I guess? |
| 18:49.11 | mikma | http://failblog.org/2010/12/25/epic-fail-video-crash-the-party-fail/ |
| 18:49.19 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: knowing how to use a console would fall under 'knowing how to do things' |
| 18:49.33 | Stanzilla | foxlit: I noticed it after entering so that could be "yes" |
| 18:49.39 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: I doubt some of these fixes have any damn thing to do with the client tho. |
| 18:50.00 | Stanzilla | *an instance |
| 18:50.24 | Dagmar | mckenziemc: I rather suspect a great many of them involve picking up a phone, or logging into an internal website, and filling out a request for a direct database change of some kind. |
| 18:50.46 | mckenziemc | or entering a command / pressing a button that sends the message right to the DB |
| 18:51.14 | Stanzilla | foxlit: 3,16mb after I died and ran in :/ |
| 18:51.32 | Dagmar | nah... |
| 18:51.46 | foxlit | Yeah, well, by design. Trigger a gc if it bothers you :P |
| 18:51.50 | Dagmar | I suspect a number of direct changes to the DB require managerial approval or some other form of oversight |
| 18:52.31 | Dagmar | power corrupts and all that |
| 18:53.02 | Dagmar | Plus, anyone involved in CS tends to get stuck in that "when all you have is a hammer" mentality |
| 18:54.12 | Dagmar | The simpler and more broad-sweeping a "solution" is, the more likely someone is to "just click the button" |
| 18:54.41 | Dagmar | For awhile here we had an internal site that could be used to unstick a mail queue. it actually brought an entire mail service down and back up |
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| 18:55.21 | Dagmar | Operators were basically clicking this thirty and forty times a day in less than a week, because it was _easy to do_ so they did it whenever mail even seemed slow to them |
| 18:55.23 | Dewin | I'm guessing the service went down and up anytime someone called and said "My mail isn't here!" |
| 18:56.02 | Dagmar | Dewin: Yeah what it amounted to was a rash of duped mails because this would also involve murdering the list server |
| 18:56.13 | mckenziemc | at any rate, i would certainly -hope- they have some means of getting things into motion through their interface, rather than having to alt-tab |
| 18:56.14 | Dagmar | ...which, when reinvoked, would start over from the beginning |
| 18:56.20 | Dagmar | ...and make their mails take even longer to get out |
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| 19:10.52 | Kraps | my brother-in-law just called me to ask if there really is cybering in wow like they say in the big bang theory |
| 19:11.56 | Fisker | i'm very sick Kraps |
| 19:19.20 | mckenziemc | blah, i'm on a death spree today : / |
| 19:22.31 | Adys | Olison: pong |
| 19:23.49 | Shirik | what Kraps? |
| 19:24.41 | Kraps | what Shirik? |
| 19:25.24 | Shirik | cybering in wow like the big bang theory? |
| 19:25.37 | Dagmar | Kraps: He's aware those are actors, right? |
| 19:25.47 | ccox | Tell him yes, and put him on a RPPvP server - then sit back and laugh |
| 19:25.52 | Kraps | they mention it |
| 19:26.01 | Dagmar | ccox: eeeevil |
| 19:26.09 | ccox | and your point is? :-) |
| 19:26.21 | Dagmar | jealousy |
| 19:28.58 | Fisker | oh Dagmar |
| 19:29.03 | Fisker | i thought they were geeks IRL |
| 19:29.13 | Fisker | atleast the sheldon guy can't be anything but a geek IRL |
| 19:29.18 | Fisker | or my world is shattered |
| 19:29.28 | Dagmar | So you're the guy Kraps was talking about that was looking for cyber action in WoW? |
| 19:29.55 | Dagmar | Fisker: If any of those guys were actually self-respecting geeks they would have quit the show long ago |
| 19:30.28 | Fisker | Parsons currently lives in Los Angeles.[17] He is 6 feet 2 inches tall. His hobbies include playing the piano and watching sports, especially tennis, baseball, and basketball.[18 |
| 19:30.29 | Fisker | jerk. |
| 19:30.30 | Dagmar | The first season they behaved like extreme cases of actual geekery |
| 19:30.36 | Fisker | i guess you're right Dagmar |
| 19:30.53 | Dagmar | After that there was a writer change or something because now they all clearly behave like the frat boy stereotype of geeks, which is pretty damn insulting |
| 19:30.55 | Fisker | geekery + consoles (unless classic consoles) do not = geek anyway |
| 19:31.21 | Kraps | my brother-in-law probably doesnt get half of the stuff on it but he knows i play wow |
| 19:34.47 | mitchnull | so he thinks you do it for the cyberz< |
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| 19:35.06 | Kraps | thankfully no |
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| 19:36.17 | Kraps | i told him that while the characters cant actually do anything, theres an emote system and people can get "creative" |
| 19:37.44 | Dagmar | shudders and crosses himself |
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| 19:50.40 | Thunder_Child | gets 'creative' with Dagmar |
| 19:51.05 | Dagmar | begins pouring kerosene |
| 19:51.33 | Thunder_Child | suggestively blows out Dagmar's match |
| 19:56.49 | Kraps | ... |
| 19:58.44 | Dagmar | I use a zippo. |
| 19:58.49 | Dagmar | They don't blow out. |
| 19:59.53 | Thunder_Child | suggestively drools on Dagmar's zippo |
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| 20:17.17 | mckenziemc | 'Please note that until a client-side patch can be applied, an inappropriate aura will be displayed when pet classes or shapeshifted characters use the rope. The tooltip of this aura will read "Delicious Aura (UNUSED REUSE) / Instant / Delicious food increases haste by 10%" and can be disregarded, as it does not provide a haste buff' |
| 20:17.47 | Jamash | mmm |
| 20:20.32 | Fisker | Thunder_Child you are abad person |
| 20:20.43 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.44 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i'm always abad person |
| 20:20.46 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.51 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.55 | Jamash | |
| 20:21.10 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 20:21.15 | Jamash | nou |
| 20:22.16 | Fisker | no u |
| 20:24.27 | mckenziemc | no me |
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| 21:04.54 | kd3 | whee |
| 21:05.24 | Adys | eehw! |
| 21:05.26 | kd3 | the kroger near work just broke the single-day sales record for the entire company yesterday thanks to "snomageddon the revenge" hitting in a few hours... |
| 21:05.33 | kd3 | something like $250k |
| 21:08.03 | Taroven | kd3: Hawt. Where at? |
| 21:08.08 | kd3 | outside of atlanta |
| 21:08.34 | Taroven | Kinda wondering if we'll see any of that in Ohio... Forecast says snow, but not how much. =P |
| 21:08.55 | kd3 | current forecast for me--3-5" of snow starting in a few hours, ~0.5" of ice starting noonish tomorrow |
| 21:10.01 | kd3 | so, my first day of school is on tuesday, dunno how that's going to work. K-12s across the metro area are in the process of cancelling monday classes now |
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| 21:11.02 | Taroven | gets back to wandering towards work. |
| 21:11.22 | mckenziemc | kd3: which state? |
| 21:11.27 | kd3 | atlanta, ga |
| 21:11.44 | mckenziemc | that's what i was afraid of >.> snow there? |
| 21:11.47 | mckenziemc | x.x |
| 21:11.50 | kd3 | second time this winter |
| 21:12.02 | kd3 | can't /ever/ remember us having more than one snow accumulation event a season |
| 21:12.07 | kd3 | I've been up here since '95 |
| 21:13.17 | mckenziemc | it's been really cold here in northern cali but it hasn't actually snowed much |
| 21:13.28 | mckenziemc | thankfully |
| 21:13.32 | mckenziemc | i hate snow : / |
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| 21:22.46 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 21:30.20 | mikma | trollsker |
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| 21:31.26 | Fisker | mikmasker |
| 21:35.45 | mikma | yeah, i'm mikma |
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| 21:39.46 | Kraps | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/memes-make-meme-reference-irl-no-one-gets-it.jpg |
| 21:39.55 | Kraps | happens to me a bit :( |
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| 21:48.34 | Cide | hi |
| 21:48.40 | wereHamster | how does the curse client figure out if I have an addon outdated? |
| 21:48.47 | wereHamster | does it use the interface version number? |
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| 21:52.53 | durcyn | it adds metadata to the toc |
| 21:53.01 | Pneumatus | no, it uses some hashing mechanism based on the files/contents etc vs known addon zip hashes |
| 21:53.36 | Pneumatus | coupled with the metadata in the toc, i guess |
| 21:57.35 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/funny-graphs-i-can-has-attenshunz.png |
| 21:58.15 | mckenziemc | an md5 or similar would suffice i think |
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| 22:00.07 | mckenziemc | hmm, then again i've seen times where it thought an unmodified version was modified |
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| 22:06.06 | Kraps | what http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/816577-10-000-Gold-Per-Hour.-Legal.-Easy.-Fun. |
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| 22:12.13 | Jamash | people are stupid in wow, same as in real life? |
| 22:13.14 | Kraps | did you see the forum it's in? |
| 22:13.33 | Jamash | the guide forum? |
| 22:14.43 | Shirik | wooooooooooo |
| 22:14.46 | Shirik | no more 333 items |
| 22:14.47 | Shirik | thank god |
| 22:14.50 | Kraps | bibi made a contest for guides, and there are so many things wrong with this one i'm wondering if mmoc was payed off |
| 22:16.00 | Cide | Shirik: nice |
| 22:17.07 | Shirik | I didn't replace my bracers with the item I wanted |
| 22:17.11 | Shirik | I really want the bracers from SFK |
| 22:17.18 | Shirik | but bracers with crit can be reforged at least |
| 22:17.33 | Shirik | into mastery <3 |
| 22:18.03 | Cide | Shirik: mastery for the win |
| 22:18.06 | Cide | Shirik: we got chimaeron last night |
| 22:18.09 | Shirik | nice grats |
| 22:18.13 | Cide | Shirik: awesome fight for healers |
| 22:18.17 | Cide | like amazing |
| 22:18.55 | Cide | like the whole fight is only about healing. the dps just sits still and does nothing the whole fight pretty much |
| 22:18.58 | Cide | ~~~~ |
| 22:18.58 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT cide!!! |
| 22:19.00 | Cide | sorry purl |
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| 22:20.48 | foxlit | "Damage taken while above 10000 health cannot reduce your health below 1." << awesome mechanic. |
| 22:21.31 | Kraps | Shirik: what class are you |
| 22:21.37 | Shirik | HOLY PRIEST |
| 22:21.39 | Shirik | THE ONLY REAL PRIEST |
| 22:21.41 | Shirik | YOU KNOW THIS |
| 22:21.45 | Shirik | Cide is too |
| 22:21.47 | Cide | yep |
| 22:21.47 | Shirik | Because he's cool |
| 22:21.53 | foxlit | AKA WHY HAVEN'T WE REPLACED HIM WITH ANOTHER MANA TIDE. |
| 22:21.54 | Cide | we're the real deal |
| 22:21.54 | Shirik | You know who isn't a holy priest Cide? |
| 22:22.02 | Cide | no |
| 22:22.04 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 22:22.08 | Cide | rafl |
| 22:22.40 | Shirik | Kraps is a disc priest |
| 22:22.45 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 22:22.46 | Kraps | you are both banned from my PW:Barrier |
| 22:22.49 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:22.54 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 22:23.22 | airtonix | you're after-the-fact tactics will be your downfall |
| 22:23.25 | Cide | haha disc |
| 22:23.27 | Cide | why |
| 22:23.38 | Cide | Shirik: I also missed the fact that inspiration gives -10% damage taken |
| 22:23.40 | airtonix | "honey top the meter up!" |
| 22:23.46 | Cide | Shirik: so tank healing should be even sweeter than I realized |
| 22:23.47 | airtonix | "why, i'll do it tomorrow" |
| 22:24.04 | Shirik | They're increasing chakra to 1 min |
| 22:24.07 | airtonix | couch healers |
| 22:24.10 | Kraps | Cide: disc is the future |
| 22:24.12 | Kraps | now |
| 22:24.12 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:24.15 | Cide | to Shirik |
| 22:24.18 | Cide | disc is not the future |
| 22:24.21 | airtonix | yes |
| 22:24.26 | Shirik | Which basically makes that one talent useless |
| 22:24.31 | airtonix | denial is the first step to acceptance |
| 22:24.35 | Shirik | any idea where you will put those 2 points? |
| 22:24.36 | Kraps | holy is soooooo mainstream |
| 22:24.48 | Cide | Shirik: -1 min shadowfiend cooldown I'm guessing |
| 22:24.53 | Cide | haven't found enough points to put there |
| 22:24.54 | airtonix | holy priests are just druids |
| 22:24.59 | Shirik | but how many fights last 4 minutes |
| 22:25.04 | Cide | most? |
| 22:25.08 | Shirik | to be more clear, 6 minutes |
| 22:25.09 | Cide | shortest fight I've seen is 6 |
| 22:25.13 | Shirik | eh? |
| 22:25.18 | Shirik | hm |
| 22:26.02 | Cide | magmaw is long, omnitron is long, chimaeron is like 6-ish, halfus is 6 |
| 22:26.07 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:26.11 | Shirik | let's change it up a little then |
| 22:26.21 | Shirik | how many fights last 4 minutes that don't last 5 minutes |
| 22:26.27 | Shirik | Here |
| 22:26.30 | Shirik | let's make it a formula |
| 22:26.37 | Shirik | f(x) = number of fights that last more than x minutes |
| 22:26.49 | Kraps | disc - holy = awesome |
| 22:26.55 | Cide | how many fights make you run out of mana in less than 5 minutes? |
| 22:27.04 | Shirik | f(4) - (f(5) - (f(8) - f(10))) |
| 22:27.06 | Shirik | and so on |
| 22:27.10 | Shirik | it's an infinite series |
| 22:27.13 | Shirik | solve |
| 22:27.25 | Shirik | ok I guess that's a good point |
| 22:27.38 | airtonix | Kraps, they can't hear you over the sound of excrement leaking from their faces |
| 22:27.52 | airtonix | typical sermon stuff etc |
| 22:27.57 | Kraps | thats disturbing |
| 22:28.25 | airtonix | "Hi i'm from the Church of the Latter Day Saints" |
| 22:28.36 | airtonix | "OH krap, i thought you were immigration officers" |
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| 22:32.35 | xqo | what does %0|%0 do in a batch? |
| 22:33.42 | Kraps | http://io9.com/5728371/the-wonder-woman-tv-show-was-rejected-by-the-networks |
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| 22:35.58 | airtonix | the latest Android phone, the Nexus S, comes with an NFC chipthe same kind that is embedded into credit cards and lets you pay by waving it over a wireless reader. |
| 22:36.57 | Cide | is getting a portable wireless reader yeahhh |
| 22:37.04 | airtonix | yeahboi |
| 22:39.07 | Cide | Shirik: are we certain the talent is useless now? |
| 22:39.16 | Cide | actually yes |
| 22:39.24 | Cide | since chakra costs zero mana |
| 22:40.02 | Cide | I would expect them to change the talent then |
| 22:41.55 | Shirik | Cide: no indication that they are, sadly :( |
| 22:42.16 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: and its better than a credit card because i believe you can turn it off until you want to use it |
| 22:42.57 | Cide | Shirik: it's just so weird |
| 22:43.15 | Cide | chakra doesn't even use a gcd |
| 22:43.40 | Cide | whoa |
| 22:43.45 | Cide | desperate prayer now heals 30% of max health? |
| 22:43.47 | Cide | jesus |
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| 22:48.52 | Shirik | yes |
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| 22:48.56 | Shirik | thats' w |
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| 22:48.59 | Shirik | Question for you |
| 22:49.07 | Shirik | Do you still pick up guardian spirit? |
| 22:49.10 | Shirik | I'm considdering dropping it |
| 22:49.14 | Shirik | not GS |
| 22:49.14 | Shirik | um |
| 22:49.16 | Shirik | Spirit of redemption |
| 22:49.26 | airtonix | lol |
| 22:50.47 | foxlit | improved death! |
| 22:50.57 | foxlit | utterly hate that angel. |
| 22:51.06 | Shirik | well it used to give us an extra spirit bonus |
| 22:51.07 | Shirik | and now it doesn't |
| 22:51.46 | foxlit | [mainly because unit frames are shit at representing it, so I'm like "oh, crap, a priest has died! now, who is it I'm supposed to Rebirth?!"] |
| 22:56.31 | Cide | nah |
| 22:56.35 | Cide | not dropping it |
| 22:56.58 | Cide | even if a death often means a wipe, that's not really always the case |
| 22:57.06 | Cide | and there are no better talents to take for 1 point |
| 22:58.08 | Shirik | desparate prayer |
| 22:58.16 | mckenziemc1 | cues Dagmar |
| 22:58.20 | Cide | what about it |
| 22:58.25 | Shirik | that's a talent to take instead |
| 22:58.28 | Cide | I already have it |
| 22:58.34 | Shirik | do you have lightwell? |
| 22:58.38 | Cide | yes |
| 22:58.42 | Shirik | then wtf don't you have |
| 22:58.44 | Cide | I have every holy talent except blessed resilience |
| 22:58.50 | Cide | 6 disc, 0 shadow |
| 22:59.06 | Cide | been debating dropping something for 3% haste though |
| 22:59.29 | Shirik | lol blessed resilience |
| 22:59.34 | Cide | mostly just so that it's easier to get 12.5% |
| 22:59.40 | Shirik | I got rid of body and soul |
| 22:59.47 | Nobgul | go into veiled shaodws |
| 23:00.04 | Cide | ya not sure about body and soul |
| 23:00.06 | Shirik | I'm at 6/32/3 |
| 23:00.10 | Shirik | But I just realized something |
| 23:00.16 | Shirik | I think darkness doesn't show up on my character sheet |
| 23:00.17 | Cide | I guess it's more of a pvp talent |
| 23:00.19 | Shirik | so I might have too much haste |
| 23:00.34 | Cide | the self-poison cleanse is nice though |
| 23:00.42 | Cide | in theory |
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| 23:00.56 | Cide | haven't really encountered any poisons though |
| 23:01.06 | Cide | I guess the run speed is the best part |
| 23:01.20 | Xyphoid | the run speed is amazing isn't it |
| 23:01.22 | Cide | for kiting stuff |
| 23:01.23 | Xyphoid | i love it when tanking |
| 23:01.29 | Shirik | dude |
| 23:01.30 | Shirik | Cide |
| 23:01.32 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:01.33 | Shirik | I have 3% too much haste |
| 23:01.37 | Cide | way to go |
| 23:01.40 | Shirik | this is BS |
| 23:01.44 | Shirik | why is the character sheet so broken |
| 23:01.59 | Cide | you must have a lot of haste gear |
| 23:02.06 | Cide | I have 3.8% |
| 23:02.08 | Shirik | I have 7.5% and then the 3% from darkness |
| 23:02.14 | Shirik | which apparently doesn't show up on the haracter sheet |
| 23:02.15 | Cide | you said you had 12.5% |
| 23:02.18 | Cide | or is that raid buffed |
| 23:02.22 | Shirik | 5% with raid buffs |
| 23:02.24 | Cide | ah |
| 23:02.29 | Cide | that's not so bad then |
| 23:02.30 | Shirik | so that makes 12.5% |
| 23:02.31 | Nobgul | go into veiled shaodws <----- |
| 23:02.34 | Shirik | but actually now it's 15.5% |
| 23:02.35 | Shirik | NO |
| 23:02.37 | Shirik | not yet |
| 23:02.40 | Cide | Nobgul: I will when chakra gets buffed |
| 23:02.40 | Nobgul | 7/32/2 |
| 23:02.41 | Shirik | when 4.0.6 comes out, then sure |
| 23:02.43 | Shirik | no |
| 23:02.48 | Shirik | how the hell did you get 7 |
| 23:02.49 | Nobgul | is what i use atm |
| 23:02.52 | Cide | wtf 7? |
| 23:02.57 | Cide | did you drop lightwell or sor or DP |
| 23:03.17 | Nobgul | sor and br |
| 23:03.23 | Nobgul | 0 points |
| 23:03.47 | Cide | r?I |
| 23:03.48 | Cide | br? |
| 23:03.53 | Nobgul | blessed resil |
| 23:03.55 | Shirik | blessed resilience |
| 23:03.59 | Nobgul | 1 sec ill make it and link it |
| 23:04.21 | Cide | I don't see how you think 5% on pws absorption is worth taking over sor |
| 23:04.55 | Nobgul | http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bbh0bZfkrrRorkcdo0b |
| 23:05.06 | Nobgul | is what i run. For holy |
| 23:05.06 | Cide | ok I have 4.76% haste, had fishing pole equipped |
| 23:05.12 | Nobgul | lol |
| 23:05.13 | Cide | so if I get darkness I'm set for 12.5% already |
| 23:05.28 | Cide | wait |
| 23:05.41 | Cide | you take 10% pws absorption over 6% healing? |
| 23:05.48 | Cide | well technically you trade it for 4% healing but anyway |
| 23:06.07 | Nobgul | its 4% and yes. |
| 23:06.12 | Nobgul | I prefer disc though lol |
| 23:06.20 | Cide | you're clearly not playing holy :P |
| 23:06.25 | Nobgul | lol |
| 23:06.27 | Cide | I think I use pws like once a fight |
| 23:06.33 | Cide | unless someone needs run speed |
| 23:06.34 | Nobgul | >_< |
| 23:06.43 | Nobgul | even as holy im always pws |
| 23:06.51 | Nobgul | the asorb is decently nice |
| 23:06.56 | Nobgul | brb |
| 23:07.21 | Cide | it might be worth it come next patch |
| 23:07.31 | Cide | but I think a single Heal gives more than a pws as it is right now |
| 23:07.50 | Shirik | &#$@*#&$@*#$&@ |
| 23:07.54 | Shirik | My spreadsheet confirms this too |
| 23:08.02 | Shirik | It's all like "you noob you have 16.27% spell haste" |
| 23:08.07 | Nobgul | lol |
| 23:09.11 | Shirik | The magic number for haste is 516 |
| 23:09.24 | Shirik | the jump from 515 to 516 in my spell rotation is about 150k healing |
| 23:09.28 | foxlit | which is what, your renew ticking once more? |
| 23:09.30 | Shirik | yup |
| 23:09.35 | Cide | not sold on serendipity myself |
| 23:09.39 | Shirik | I was calculating it wrong because the damn character sheet is wrong |
| 23:11.08 | Shirik | I guess this means I can get a ton more mastery though |
| 23:11.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:12.06 | Cide | thoughts on serendipity? |
| 23:12.16 | Shirik | Very useful |
| 23:12.27 | Shirik | surge of light affects it, allows you to get off a hasted poh |
| 23:12.52 | Cide | how often do you need a prayer of healing after a surge of light proc |
| 23:13.08 | Cide | and more importantly how often do you need it 20% faster that badly |
| 23:13.10 | Shirik | I prefer to substitute "need" with "could use" |
| 23:13.31 | Cide | in terms of haste it's more of a "need" though |
| 23:13.33 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1503252272 |
| 23:13.36 | Fisker | lol'd |
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| 23:15.29 | Shirik | gah |
| 23:15.32 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:15.32 | Shirik | I even noticed this too |
| 23:15.41 | Cide | noticed what |
| 23:15.43 | Shirik | I was wondering why the spreadsheet didn't seem to have a sudden jump right where the extra tick should be |
| 23:15.56 | Cide | you aren't trusting the math enough~ |
| 23:17.21 | Cide | anyway |
| 23:17.37 | Cide | how often do you use flash heal or binding heal Shirik? |
| 23:17.46 | Shirik | only in urgent situations |
| 23:17.48 | Cide | flash heal only on surge of light procs pretty much for me, very rarely otherwise |
| 23:17.48 | foxlit | ungoro! |
| 23:17.50 | Kraps | i hate you all |
| 23:17.50 | Shirik | or sol proc of course |
| 23:18.08 | Cide | binding heal now and then but probably less with a 30% max hp DP |
| 23:18.32 | Cide | and the question is whether or not it's better than -60sec on shadowfiend |
| 23:23.22 | airtonix | binding heal is underrated |
| 23:23.46 | Cide | I use it a fair bit |
| 23:23.52 | airtonix | i did too |
| 23:23.56 | Cide | but less with DP |
| 23:24.04 | airtonix | almost as much as flash |
| 23:24.17 | Cide | flash is dangerous now |
| 23:24.22 | Cide | costs so much mana |
| 23:24.25 | airtonix | i stopped playing 12mths ago |
| 23:24.44 | Cide | yeah it's not even remotely the same healing |
| 23:28.10 | Cide | can't decide between 1% haste and 2/2 serendipity |
| 23:28.22 | Cide | granted as my gear gets better I can easily get that 1% haste from gear |
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| 23:35.32 | Shirik | Cide: Get 3 points in darkness |
| 23:35.37 | Shirik | 516 haste rating is so easy |
| 23:35.37 | Shirik | omg |
| 23:35.41 | Shirik | I have 400 haste rating too many |
| 23:35.49 | Shirik | would you like some? |
| 23:37.15 | cbreak | I could use more +hit |
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| 23:38.07 | Shirik | I have a +hit wand |
| 23:38.10 | Shirik | I need to get rid of it |
| 23:38.48 | Cide | Shirik: win 5 times in an arena |
| 23:38.59 | Cide | Shirik: and you get Vicious Gladiator's Baton of Light |
| 23:39.09 | Cide | 161 stam, 107 int, 72 spirit, (72 resilience) |
| 23:39.14 | Shirik | you can't reforge out of resilience :( |
| 23:39.20 | Cide | I know |
| 23:39.28 | Cide | but the other stats might be better as it is |
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| 23:44.08 | Cide | Shirik: to get 3/3 darkness I need to lose 1 point out of something |
| 23:44.13 | Cide | which would probably be serendipity |
| 23:44.17 | Shirik | trash body and soul |
| 23:44.20 | Cide | why |
| 23:44.29 | Cide | I asked around and everyone loves the speed boost |
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| 23:51.12 | Cide | on the other hand I only ever find serendipity useful if the tank is almost dying |
| 23:51.19 | Cide | and I can do 2 flash heals followed by a gheal |
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| 23:52.32 | Cide | usually it's more about execution and raid healing than it is to strain to keep the tank alive though |
| 23:53.33 | Cide | also not sure on the value of rapid renewal |
| 23:53.49 | Cide | or divine touch even |
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| 23:54.23 | Cide | divine touch gives me an instant heal of 1091 |
| 23:56.09 | Shirik | *@#$(*@$# |
| 23:56.12 | Shirik | I'm still mad about this |
| 23:56.18 | Shirik | How the hell do I chop off 400 haste |
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| 23:56.22 | Cide | reforge |
| 23:56.24 | Cide | regem |
| 23:56.27 | Shirik | I already did reforge! |
| 23:56.32 | Cide | get spirit gems |
| 23:56.44 | Shirik | I also just wrote up a massive rant on guild forums |
| 23:56.46 | Shirik | on "how not to gear" |
| 23:57.02 | Shirik | it was actually a post on holy priest prioritizations |
| 23:57.07 | Cide | spirit for blue, mastery/spirit for yellow, int/spirit for red |
| 23:57.11 | Shirik | but it did say 4.06%, not 7.5% |
| 23:57.13 | Cide | and you're the only priest? :P |
| 23:57.18 | Shirik | Yeah :( |
| 23:57.22 | Cide | must be lonely! |
| 23:57.26 | Shirik | There are others but they won't be coming |
| 23:57.26 | Cide | feel free to post it on our forum |
| 23:57.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:57.35 | Shirik | so you can bash me? |
| 23:57.46 | Cide | so that it's actually useful! |
| 23:58.21 | Cide | so |
| 23:58.26 | Cide | 0.5 sec off renew gcd? |
| 23:58.39 | Cide | seems good in theory but I don't think I rarely need it |
| 23:58.47 | Cide | s/don't // |
| 23:59.28 | Cide | guess I need to cast renew more often |
