| 00:01.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Scotepi (~Scotepi@bb-66-63-102-243.gwi.net) |
| 00:03.06 | Scotepi | what is a good rule of thumb for using NotifyInspect('target'); then using GetInventoryItemLink('target', 1); how many results should I wait for untill the responce is 'compleate'? |
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| 00:13.08 | Scotepi | is there a sleep funtion for code? |
| 00:13.25 | Cide | you do not need one |
| 00:14.03 | Scotepi | then how can know when NotifyInspect('target'); has fully populated a players info? |
| 00:14.16 | Arrowmaster | you listen for the event |
| 00:14.47 | Scotepi | the only event I see listed is INSPECT_TALENT_READY, and its not fireing from that function |
| 00:15.11 | Arrowmaster | !api NotifyInspect |
| 00:15.11 | lua_bot | NotifyInspect: Marks a unit for inspection and requests talent data from the server (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/NotifyInspect) |
| 00:15.27 | Scotepi | im on that page now |
| 00:16.05 | Scotepi | on the first gear loop GetInventoryItemLink() returns only about 4 items.. however it run it again 2-3sec later i get all of them |
| 00:16.11 | Arrowmaster | it says the equipment is available immediately |
| 00:16.24 | Scotepi | well its not, i get mostly nils |
| 00:16.56 | Arrowmaster | then try waiting until the INSPECT_TALENT_READY event fires |
| 00:17.12 | Scotepi | can i register new events with reload ui or do i need to relog to do that? using frame:RegisterEvent('INSPECT_TALENT_READY'); |
| 00:17.57 | mckenziemc | chances to existing lua files will take effect after a ui reload |
| 00:18.01 | mckenziemc | changes* |
| 00:18.24 | Arrowmaster | actually try INSPECT_READY |
| 00:18.27 | Scotepi | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_NotifyInspect also mentions unit_inventory_changed |
| 00:19.16 | Arrowmaster | then try that too |
| 00:19.37 | foxlit | "it says the equipment is available immediately" << this sounds right, I probably wrote that. |
| 00:20.05 | Adys | !api createframe |
| 00:20.05 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 00:20.15 | foxlit | Could you possibly be inspecting someone whose inventory items aren't in your item cache, so the "Fetching item information" delay applies? |
| 00:21.07 | Arrowmaster | that should only effect tooltips |
| 00:21.23 | Arrowmaster | and such functions that need the item stats |
| 00:21.48 | Arrowmaster | getting the link shouldnt have a delay |
| 00:22.00 | Scotepi | any here maintain the wowprograming site? the damn search this site on google is anoying |
| 00:22.16 | Scotepi | focusing on the search boes doesnt clear it |
| 00:22.16 | Arrowmaster | Scotepi: jnwhiteh does |
| 00:22.20 | mckenziemc | GetInventoryItemLink would require the name -- isn't that something that would have to wait for the cache to update? |
| 00:22.36 | Arrowmaster | mckenziemc: that has nothing to do with the name |
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| 00:22.56 | mckenziemc | the function needs the name in order to generate the link |
| 00:22.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:23.02 | mckenziemc | assuming it starts with an id |
| 00:27.21 | Scotepi | im calling NotifyInspect('target'); and however INSPECT_TALENT_READY and INSPECT_READY arent being trigered |
| 00:27.44 | Arrowmaster | i think INSPECT_TALENT_READY got removed |
| 00:28.08 | mckenziemc | not at all, or not immediately? and are you sure you have them registered/tracked properly? |
| 00:28.53 | mckenziemc | try /eventtrace and call NotifyInspect from the chatbox |
| 00:32.06 | Scotepi | how can i pause event trace? |
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| 00:33.09 | mckenziemc | idk, just put the scrollbar in the middle and it'll stay in one spot for a while (eventually it'll start removing old events though) |
| 00:33.58 | Scotepi | so much spam, lol |
| 00:34.33 | foxlit | Get the actual DevTools, really. |
| 00:34.42 | foxlit | That'd at least let you filter the stuff you don't want to see |
| 00:34.56 | Iriel | Someday I (or someone else) needs to port the filtering |
| 00:39.14 | Scotepi | ok, my event handler isnt working, back to the drawing board >< |
| 00:40.14 | Shirik | Iriel: What I really miss that's missing is /dtchatevent |
| 00:40.25 | Shirik | That's the biggest thing keeping devtools installed |
| 00:40.57 | bluspacecow | oh rly? |
| 00:41.13 | Iriel | Way harder to do withoutthe globals |
| 00:41.32 | foxlit | wouldn't chat filters get everything? |
| 00:41.38 | Shirik | oh does it not work anymore? (I haven't tried it, but it at least used to be useful) |
| 00:41.59 | Iriel | I dont think it works at present |
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| 00:42.17 | Scotepi | how can i test for a frame and what events it has registered? |
| 00:42.38 | Iriel | It's not impossible to make it work, but less easy. |
| 00:42.57 | Iriel | !api EventRegistered |
| 00:42.58 | lua_bot | Frame:IsEventRegistered: Returns whether the frame is registered for a given [[docs/events|event]] (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/IsEventRegistered) |
| 00:46.09 | Silversage | Adys: ping |
| 00:46.18 | Adys | Silversage: yes? |
| 00:47.13 | Silversage | Have an idea to get the socket bonus of an unsocketed item with tooltip parsing. Not sure it will work. As follows... |
| 00:47.55 | Silversage | (a) Take an item string, and strip out any enchants or jewels. Do GetItemStats for it. |
| 00:48.46 | Silversage | (b) Socket appropriate-colored gems in all sockets and do GetItemStats for it. |
| 00:49.18 | Silversage | (c) Do a diff, and subtract off the effects of the fake jewels. |
| 00:49.22 | Adys | no. |
| 00:49.32 | Adys | getitemstats does not take in account enchants and gem bonuses |
| 00:49.35 | Silversage | Iiuc, GetItemStats accounts for enchants, but not for reforging. |
| 00:49.55 | Adys | getitemstats doesnt account for anything |
| 00:49.58 | Adys | just the base item stats |
| 00:50.01 | Silversage | i believe it does. I've had to explicitly go zero those out in my addon code. |
| 00:50.24 | Arrowmaster | should be able to just scan the lines of the tooltip and match the line that starts with the proper color for an unactivated socket bonus |
| 00:50.54 | Silversage | Scanning the tooltip is what I'm trying to avoid. It's language-specific. And ugly. :P |
| 00:51.00 | Adys | theres no need for that :P |
| 00:51.03 | Adys | its not language specific |
| 00:51.27 | Silversage | Scanning the tooltip is not language-specific? |
| 00:51.29 | Adys | use ITEM_SOCKET_BONUS globalstring and replace %s by (.+) |
| 00:52.03 | Adys | https://github.com/Adys/SigrieMiner/blob/master/MMOC_Recorder.lua#L352 |
| 00:52.34 | Shirik | Adys is a meanie |
| 00:52.39 | Adys | your mom is a meanie |
| 00:52.43 | Adys | but why. |
| 00:53.13 | mckenziemc | ~why |
| 00:53.13 | purl | Because! |
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| 00:54.17 | drag0nius | is there function to start quest from item? |
| 00:54.28 | Shirik | not one that you can call |
| 00:54.30 | drag0nius | or any kind of command |
| 00:54.35 | Shirik | There's /use |
| 00:54.38 | Adys | drag0nius: UseItem |
| 00:54.40 | Adys | !api useitem |
| 00:54.40 | lua_bot | UseItemByName: Uses an arbitrary item (optionally on a specified unit) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UseItemByName) |
| 00:54.45 | Shirik | UseItem is protected |
| 00:54.56 | drag0nius | i have 40 decks to turn in |
| 00:55.00 | drag0nius | wanna automate it a bit xD |
| 00:55.06 | Adys | drag0nius: macro it |
| 00:55.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 00:55.48 | Silversage | Adys: Clever. |
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| 00:57.06 | Scotepi | am i doing something wrong with my event handler? http://pastebin.com/V5SXz9mx running /script print(SIL:IsEventRegistered('ADDON_LOADED')); returns 1 |
| 00:57.58 | Adys | Scotepi: looks fine |
| 00:58.00 | Adys | whats not working? |
| 00:58.09 | drag0nius | is there command to chose first quest reward from top? xd |
| 00:58.19 | Arrowmaster | youve probably got a chat mod thats blocking them |
| 00:58.28 | Arrowmaster | some do it accidently |
| 00:58.49 | Scotepi | i never get the print(self..'--'..EventName); or 'Loading SIL' |
| 00:59.24 | Scotepi | running /script SIL_OnEvent('sil', 'ADDON_LOADED'); prints as expected |
| 00:59.31 | Adys | Scotepi: what Arrowmaster said then |
| 01:00.45 | Scotepi | i guess if i disable everything then it will be faster /reloading ui |
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| 01:01.14 | Iriel | Scotepi: put a debug statement in the coide you THINK is registering the event |
| 01:02.03 | Scotepi | with jsut my addon and swatter, still nothing on load |
| 01:05.09 | mckenziemc | there is, drag0nius, but i forgot what it is >< |
| 01:05.40 | Scotepi | sonsof hodier on wowhead has it in a macro |
| 01:05.59 | mckenziemc | you don't have to pick a reward for that though |
| 01:06.15 | mckenziemc | but yeah, the comment there will get you the other stuff you need |
| 01:06.19 | Scotepi | it might put you on the right track tho |
| 01:07.21 | bluspacecow | trivia question : name me an npc that was introduced in 4.0.1 and one that was introduced in 4.0.3 |
| 01:07.29 | Shirik | Deathwing |
| 01:07.41 | Shirik | I win |
| 01:07.45 | bluspacecow | good good |
| 01:10.08 | Scotepi | is the lua way of adding a frame/event handler not as reliable? |
| 01:11.05 | Adys | Scotepi: its very reliable |
| 01:11.17 | Scotepi | i got it... it was out of order >< |
| 01:11.29 | Adys | Scotepi: but very early events, such as ADDON_LOADED and so on, are not reliable for a lot of things |
| 01:14.08 | Ackis | any secrets to log in? |
| 01:14.55 | Kraps | Ackis: wait for a fix? |
| 01:15.24 | karl_w_w | the date and time on the breaking news tittilates me |
| 01:15.37 | karl_w_w | its like blizzard planned it |
| 01:16.42 | mckenziemc | aye |
| 01:17.19 | Kraps | disc is so involved now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvRhESIScI |
| 01:17.37 | mckenziemc | if you have an authenticator, don't bother making a second attempt till it shows a new code |
| 01:17.50 | mckenziemc | even if you get Unable to Connect, it consumes your code |
| 01:17.56 | mckenziemc | apparently |
| 01:18.51 | Xinhuan | whats the resilience cap? |
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| 01:19.45 | Iriel | I dispute that |
| 01:20.06 | Shirik | I also dispute it |
| 01:20.14 | Shirik | Considering it doesn't consume your code at all |
| 01:20.23 | Shirik | That was proven a while back, unless they changed it |
| 01:20.45 | mckenziemc | i kept getting 'Invalid Information' after the first time and until the authenticator gave me a new code |
| 01:20.51 | Iriel | I got D/Ced and experienced the auth bug |
| 01:20.59 | Iriel | I logged in on the Nth try of one code twice |
| 01:21.03 | karl_w_w | resilience cap? |
| 01:21.09 | Ackis | Shirik: it'll let you in with 1 code but not again after you've used it |
| 01:21.10 | Scotepi | INSPECT_READY arg1 is a long hex string, what is that and how can I use it to referance a unitId? |
| 01:21.14 | Shirik | I WISH it would consume the code |
| 01:21.20 | karl_w_w | and yes, disc is a bit crazy |
| 01:21.31 | Shirik | Also, disc sucks |
| 01:21.42 | mckenziemc | i guess it was coincidence then |
| 01:21.55 | Scotepi | its a guid... |
| 01:22.22 | Scotepi | got it |
| 01:22.43 | Kraps | Shirik: not as much as your mom |
| 01:23.26 | industrial | quality over qu-no. |
| 01:23.38 | Shirik | holy is so much better |
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| 01:23.59 | Kraps | no Shirik |
| 01:24.02 | Kraps | just no |
| 01:24.04 | Shirik | yes Kraps |
| 01:24.06 | Shirik | just yes |
| 01:24.14 | Kraps | you're wrong |
| 01:25.06 | mckenziemc | This sentence is a lie |
| 01:25.28 | industrial | any guild name with 'cata' in it should die. good job being creative. |
| 01:26.06 | karl_w_w | so my guild "we r gud cata rayderz" is bad? |
| 01:26.13 | foxlit | What have you got against <Catalyst>? |
| 01:27.02 | industrial | karl_w_w: and if your name is karlegolasdklol you should delete your account and burn your wow discs |
| 01:27.55 | wereHamster | can wow load opentype fonts? |
| 01:28.03 | Shirik | no I'm not |
| 01:28.04 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 01:28.24 | Kraps | yes you are |
| 01:28.26 | Kraps | Shirik: |
| 01:28.33 | Shirik | no |
| 01:28.38 | karl_w_w | Kraps: |
| 01:28.40 | Shirik | lalalalala can't hear you |
| 01:28.53 | Kraps | yesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyes |
| 01:29.12 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.23 | Shirik | .... |
| 01:29.31 | Wobin | Saw that one, yesterday |
| 01:29.54 | wereHamster | !api CreateFont |
| 01:29.54 | lua_bot | CreateFont: Creates a new Font object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFont) |
| 01:30.11 | wereHamster | !api SetFont |
| 01:30.11 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'SetFont': FontInstance:SetFontObject, SimpleHTML:SetFont, Button:SetFontString, SimpleHTML:SetFontObject, FontInstance:SetFont |
| 01:30.23 | wereHamster | !api FontInstance:SetFontObject |
| 01:30.24 | lua_bot | FontInstance:SetFontObject: Sets the `Font` object from which the font instance's properties are inherited (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/SetFontObject) |
| 01:30.46 | karl_w_w | you can only have grace on 1 player at a time? /facepalm |
| 01:30.48 | wereHamster | nothign there which would indicate which font types it supports |
| 01:31.19 | Kraps | Shirik: i'm needing for speeding now |
| 01:31.49 | industrial | Wobin: LMAO |
| 01:33.08 | industrial | why is posting items to the ah eg removing it from your bags instant, but receiving it from the ah in the mail not? |
| 01:34.13 | foxlit | It *is* instant. |
| 01:34.27 | foxlit | Your mailbox just has a refresh limit. |
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| 01:37.51 | Wobin | Kraps: thanks for that link to disc healing |
| 01:38.06 | Wobin | that actually explained a whole lot of what I was guessing at, but not knowing concretely |
| 01:42.46 | wereHamster | is it possible to find out whethre a string is too long and an ellipsis is being displayed? |
| 01:44.05 | cbreak | wereHamster: I'd check http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_GetStringWidth |
| 01:44.12 | cbreak | and compare it with the real width |
| 01:45.17 | Shirik | industrial: Receiving money from the AH isn't instant |
| 01:46.10 | industrial | foxlit: ^ |
| 01:46.45 | industrial | <stewie>where's my money?</stewie> |
| 01:46.53 | wereHamster | cbreak: thanks |
| 01:46.56 | foxlit | industrial: to be fair, you could've mentioned money somewhere |
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| 01:47.45 | Scotepi | is it posable to use a GUID for GetInventoryItemLink(UnitId)? |
| 01:48.26 | industrial | Well I was just talking about items really, since I was standing at the mailbox waiting for items to pop (a whole 10 seconds!!!). And I don't intend to win arguments by asking questions about them :D |
| 01:48.32 | cbreak | wereHamster: there might be problems finding out it's real width if you use anchor points |
| 01:48.40 | wereHamster | how so? |
| 01:49.01 | cbreak | because then GetWidth according to docs returns the same as the string width even if it's not that wide |
| 01:49.11 | cbreak | I've not used that code myself, so maybe they changed it |
| 01:49.31 | wereHamster | which docs? |
| 01:49.37 | cbreak | the one I linked above |
| 01:49.47 | cbreak | "Among other things, if no width is explicitly set, GetWidth() will return the exact same result as GetStringWidth(). " |
| 01:50.01 | cbreak | but I think you can just ask the parent for the width depending on how you anchored it |
| 01:50.08 | wereHamster | ah. I use SetWidth though |
| 01:50.16 | cbreak | neat :) |
| 01:59.48 | wereHamster | if one frame is within another frame. will the inner frame be cropped to only display content inside the outer frame? |
| 02:00.31 | foxlit | no |
| 02:00.46 | foxlit | unless the outer frame is a scrollframe and the inner frame is its scrollchild. |
| 02:03.29 | Fisker | i'm playing the game foxlit |
| 02:03.55 | Scotepi | how can i do a array such that the key is a variable? n=UnitName('target'); somearr[n]=UnitGUID('target'); |
| 02:03.55 | foxlit | i believe you've just lost, Fisker. |
| 02:04.35 | TMc51 | as did we all. |
| 02:04.36 | Arrowmaster | Scotepi: yes that works |
| 02:05.08 | Scotepi | im trying this and its not working, http://pastebin.com/kMZTBNAE |
| 02:05.26 | wereHamster | Scotepi: what exactly does not work? |
| 02:06.03 | mckenziemc | heh, second Breaking News is dated 1-1-11 5:55 |
| 02:06.06 | Scotepi | i do /script print(SIL_Cache[UnitGUID('target')]['name']) and get a error |
| 02:06.26 | Arrowmaster | what error |
| 02:06.28 | wereHamster | what is the value of Target when you call the function? |
| 02:06.55 | wereHamster | also, add a few print()s in the function to see what it's doing |
| 02:07.17 | Scotepi | SIL_Cache a nil value, its defined at the top level of the lua and its not a local |
| 02:07.34 | Arrowmaster | is your file even being loaded? |
| 02:07.50 | wereHamster | if it's nil, then SIL_Cache[GUID] = {} should throw an error |
| 02:09.14 | Scotepi | I added print(SIL_Cache[GUID]['name']); in that function and nothing is being outputed |
| 02:09.36 | Scotepi | ill add a few more debugs and post the whole code |
| 02:11.11 | Arrowmaster | like i said, is your file even being loaded? |
| 02:11.38 | Scotepi | yes it is |
| 02:13.14 | Scotepi | >< i was calling the addon by the wrong function |
| 02:14.10 | Scotepi | now to figure out how to turn GUID back into a valid unit type since GetInventoryItemLink cant use name :( |
| 02:15.27 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
| 02:16.17 | Arrowmaster | and GetInventoryItemLink should take a name, but it follows the same restrictions as everything else, the name must be of somebody in your party or raid |
| 02:18.23 | Scotepi | grr GetInventoryItemLink, is still returning nils even after INSPECT_READY is fired :( |
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| 02:24.35 | wereHamster | !api ScrollFrame |
| 02:24.35 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'ScrollFrame': ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange, ScrollFrame:GetScrollChild, ScrollFrame:SetScrollChild, ScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect, ScrollFrame:SetVerticalScroll, ScrollFrame:SetHorizontalScroll, ScrollFrame:GetHorizontalScrollRange, ScrollFrame:GetHorizontalScroll, ScrollFrame:GetVerticalScroll |
| 02:26.32 | wereHamster | is it possible to disable the ellipsis when the text is larger than the frame? |
| 02:26.43 | A-KO | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=161411 < awesome |
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| 02:30.11 | Lulia | No logging into WoW for me |
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| 02:32.10 | TMc51 | Lulia: Yeah, login servers are down. =( |
| 02:33.15 | Amarande | not quite down, according to the announcement, but spotty. I just got on. |
| 02:33.40 | Amarande | which is odd, because usually when there's issues with battle.net for me it's the AT&T boss wiping me. :P |
| 02:33.48 | mckenziemc | just keep trying :p |
| 02:33.50 | TMc51 | Well, mostly, at least. It took me 20 tries, and I was able to log into one of my alt servers, but no amount of effort would get me into Kirin Tor. |
| 02:34.07 | Amarande | Silvermoon appears to be working. Haven't tried Turalyon. |
| 02:37.32 | Amarande | They should extend Winter Veil a day, for the benefit of affected players though. |
| 02:38.41 | TMc51 | I want a $0.25 refund for the day (which I slept through, anyways) I couldn't play WoW. That's a, errr, pack of gum? Yeah, a pack of gum wasted! |
| 02:40.20 | wereHamster | is there a special place where all errors are logged? |
| 02:40.46 | Lulia | It's not even trying to connect me, it's just giving the "Unable to connect" dialog |
| 02:41.30 | Amarande | Lulia: this is what Blizzard gets for using AT&T as one of their ISPs, probably. :S |
| 02:41.42 | TMc51 | keep trying. I got that a few dozen times, and then when I couldn't get onto the server I wanted, I just gave up. |
| 02:42.03 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember if AT&T has ever given us anything *good*. |
| 02:42.06 | TMc51 | Eh, as bad as A&T are, at least they're not using Comcast, or Timw Warner. |
| 02:42.14 | Amarande | Besides that Graphviz flowchart making tool, which is quite useful. |
| 02:42.35 | Amarande | oh right ... UNIX, right? |
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| 02:44.45 | clever | thats interesting... |
| 02:44.53 | clever | if i enter the wrong password, the game knows it |
| 02:44.55 | Adys | whats the equivalent of <Layer> in lua? |
| 02:44.58 | clever | even though it cant connect..... |
| 02:45.41 | clever | trace:winsock:WS_gethostbyname "us.logon.battle.net" ret 0x12808728 |
| 02:47.03 | Adys | nvm got it |
| 02:47.20 | clever | and i'm in too |
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| 02:57.18 | wereHamster | cbreak: FontString:IsTruncated() :) |
| 02:57.48 | wereHamster | but GetStringWidth() doesn't return the correct width if it's truncated |
| 02:58.46 | Scotepi | if I GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine() how do i remove that line? |
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| 03:00.44 | Arrowmaster | removing lines from a tooltip is extremely hard |
| 03:01.33 | Scotepi | so I shouldnt doing a loading and then try and replace that with the value |
| 03:01.39 | Scotepi | *shouldnt do |
| 03:01.47 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:02.02 | Arrowmaster | not unless you are going to completely redraw the tooltip |
| 03:02.10 | Scotepi | yeah, no thanks, lol |
| 03:04.06 | Scotepi | hmm, 1 more bug then i think this addon is done |
| 03:04.41 | fictive | any way to detect if there is a gather node on the minimap? |
| 03:05.08 | Arrowmaster | short answer: no |
| 03:05.15 | Arrowmaster | long answer: yes but you dont want to do it |
| 03:05.37 | Scotepi | if it was easy gather would go carzzy when you came accross something |
| 03:07.14 | Amarande | Scotepi, no adding bugs to addons :) |
| 03:07.18 | Amarande | chuckles |
| 03:08.32 | clever | Arrowmaster: why wouldnt you and how? |
| 03:09.05 | Arrowmaster | because it involves moving and resizing the minimap, constantly placing it under the cursor |
| 03:09.14 | clever | ahh |
| 03:09.19 | clever | and then scanning the tooltip |
| 03:09.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 03:09.38 | clever | simple and ugly |
| 03:09.41 | Arrowmaster | its doable but such a hack job nobody would ever actually do it |
| 03:09.49 | clever | yeah |
| 03:09.55 | clever | imposible to actualy play with it doing that |
| 03:12.38 | fictive | hehe, thanks for the answer |
| 03:12.48 | Iriel | It's also incredibly slow |
| 03:13.01 | fictive | was wondering if there was possible to write an addon that played a sound when a node was discovered |
| 03:13.27 | wereHamster | can I animate a scrollchild? |
| 03:13.38 | Iriel | You can change it OnUpdate |
| 03:13.46 | Iriel | If that's what you mean |
| 03:13.49 | wereHamster | or, well, the vertical/horizontal scroll of the scrollfrmae |
| 03:14.06 | Iriel | I did a scrollable frame with 'inertia' once using that |
| 03:14.10 | Iriel | it works pretty well |
| 03:16.00 | Lulia | Hmm, now it's "not valid" errors, as if I'm getting my password or authenticator wrong, but it logs in just fine to the b.net website. :P |
| 03:20.39 | Amarande | Silvermoon is working. Turalyon is working. Which servers aren't? |
| 03:21.44 | mckenziemc | i think it's an issue with the login server not passing you to the realm server correctly |
| 03:23.00 | Amarande | Heh, I just realized that on my two main servers I play the faction opposite to the one that the lore object the server is named for is. |
| 03:28.01 | Amarande | I play Alliance on Silvermoon and Horde on Turalyon. :) |
| 03:30.09 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: don't give me ideas |
| 03:30.12 | mckenziemc | ;) |
| 03:31.22 | Dark_Elf | glad u got silvermoon working cause its still down for me lol |
| 03:34.18 | wereHamster | I'm pretty sure my addon is causing some exceptions/errors. How do I see them? |
| 03:35.00 | mckenziemc | do you have swatter or bugsack? |
| 03:35.06 | wereHamster | no |
| 03:35.37 | Arrowmaster | get bugsack |
| 03:35.47 | mckenziemc | get one :p blizzard's error box breaks often, ironically |
| 03:41.50 | wereHamster | hm, SetScrollChild() doesn't properly clear or update the scroll frame. I create and add a new frmae with a fontscring, but I keep seeing all the old font strings as well |
| 03:45.46 | wereHamster | lua> 4 % 3 |
| 03:45.46 | lua_bot | wereHamster: 1 |
| 03:45.53 | Dark_Elf | yeah that bugsack works good |
| 03:46.26 | Amarande | you get swatter by default when you install the auctioneer suite right? |
| 03:46.48 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 03:47.27 | Dark_Elf | its give a lua error number and can use notepad to goto line number and find error real quick |
| 03:50.10 | clever | i think its swatter i'm looking at, its sometimes hard to see WHICH addon the backtrace is for |
| 03:50.15 | Amarande | bah. you can't pug queue for rated BGs can you, you have to have a full premade from your server? |
| 03:50.21 | clever | the function names arent always clear and it doesnt give any filename |
| 03:50.50 | Amarande | or do rated BGs have some other requirement to queue, like a minimum ilvl or resilience rating? |
| 03:52.49 | karl_w_w | you just need to be in a group |
| 03:52.58 | karl_w_w | up to the size of the bg |
| 03:53.02 | karl_w_w | doesnt even need to be full |
| 03:54.07 | karl_w_w | swatter does give a filename clever |
| 03:54.45 | clever | karl_w_w: might be the blizzard one then |
| 03:55.13 | karl_w_w | http://wiki.norganna.org/w/images/b/b4/Swatter_Example_Window.jpg |
| 03:55.47 | clever | karl_w_w: yeah that looks like what i have |
| 03:56.05 | clever | i'll have to look closer next time i get an error |
| 03:56.11 | karl_w_w | type /swat show |
| 03:56.16 | karl_w_w | to show old ones |
| 03:56.53 | karl_w_w | what error are you getting? |
| 03:57.02 | karl_w_w | it doesnt give a filename for xml bugs |
| 03:57.03 | clever | various ones |
| 03:57.10 | karl_w_w | or taints |
| 03:57.28 | clever | i'll look at it tomorow |
| 04:01.09 | industrial | pffff paralel universe |
| 04:01.20 | industrial | once you've seen one on any filming you've seen them all |
| 04:01.47 | industrial | its a trick to fill content :| |
| 04:01.58 | industrial | like making a dog jump through a hoop |
| 04:02.36 | karl_w_w | quantum leap > * |
| 04:04.26 | industrial | oh no! something unexplainable happens! you see yourself! he's a villain! poof story |
| 04:04.35 | industrial | fail~ |
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| 04:48.27 | crazedfred | I keep making a mistake and my addon it silently fails to load, which is frustrating. Is there a good debugging addon? |
| 04:49.46 | mckenziemc | buggrabber |
| 04:50.39 | mckenziemc | the default ui is -supposed- to pop a window open if you have the Show Lua Errors setting enabled, but it has its own bugs... |
| 04:50.50 | crazedfred | of course |
| 04:51.24 | crazedfred | Yea I'm not seeing any errors, just nothing, and then my slash commands don't work (which is how I'm "debugging" atm) |
| 04:53.15 | mckenziemc | are you using Ace3? |
| 04:53.43 | mckenziemc | scratch that, are you putting your addon into the global table |
| 04:55.55 | Seerah | crazedfred: do you have "Hide Lua Errors" checked in Interface Options? |
| 04:56.14 | Adys | anyone familiar with scrollframes? |
| 04:56.15 | Seerah | sorry, "Display Lua Errors" |
| 04:56.29 | crazedfred | Seerah: evidently I don't have display checked >< |
| 04:56.41 | Seerah | I've made one, Adys, but I wouldn't consider myself an expert :) |
| 04:56.42 | crazedfred | though I may as well use BugSack |
| 04:56.49 | Adys | Im having some scrollchild trouble |
| 04:57.20 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/1173294 |
| 04:57.41 | Seerah | what's the issue, Adys? |
| 04:57.46 | Adys | buttons are overflowing QuoteList (the scrollchild) |
| 04:57.51 | Adys | sec, screenshot time |
| 04:58.07 | Seerah | like it's not fit inside? (The extra aren't hidden?) |
| 04:58.22 | Seerah | I had that issue, too. lemme check how I did it. |
| 04:58.23 | Adys | they're hidden when overflowing off the top frame |
| 04:59.27 | Adys | bloody hell wheres that screenshot |
| 04:59.37 | Adys | curses at wow screenshot naming scheme |
| 05:01.04 | Adys | Seerah: http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2011/01/01/scrolls_1.jpg |
| 05:02.26 | Seerah | Adys: you mean how "test 18" overlaps the border a bit? |
| 05:02.41 | Adys | Seerah: No; its supposed to stop at test 12 |
| 05:02.55 | Seerah | what is that frame with the dialog border? |
| 05:03.14 | Adys | thats quoteframe from line2 |
| 05:03.15 | Seerah | quoteframe, right? |
| 05:03.28 | Seerah | and your scrollframe is set to have the same height basically as quoteframe |
| 05:04.00 | Adys | oh, hm, i think i see the issue |
| 05:04.06 | crazedfred | Quick question about scoping: I'm making my functions namespaced, that is things like "function MyAddon:myFunction()". But now I can't call myFunction(), what's the best way to do this? (Otherwise I'd always be calling self:myFunction...) |
| 05:04.42 | Seerah | scrollframe should be set to the size you wish for the scroll frame to visually take up. scrollchild can be longer, but fits inside scrollframe, only part of it visible |
| 05:05.09 | Seerah | crazedfred: what's wrong with local function myFunction() ? |
| 05:05.24 | Seerah | do you need to access it from another file? |
| 05:05.26 | Adys | Seerah: so scrollchild's size doesnt matter, only scrollframe's ? |
| 05:05.30 | Seerah | or have it accessible by others? |
| 05:05.36 | crazedfred | Seerah: I have to pass a callback to Ace-Timer or something, and I thought it can't be local then? |
| 05:05.38 | Seerah | here's mine, Adys |
| 05:05.56 | crazedfred | Seerah: I also will be writing a library, so yes some of these functions will need to be externally accessible |
| 05:06.03 | Seerah | Adys: http://pastebin.com/n5ebF61R |
| 05:06.27 | Adys | thanks, trying it out |
| 05:06.38 | Seerah | crazedfred: then you need to use MyAddon:myFunction() |
| 05:06.42 | Seerah | and so will any external addons |
| 05:06.54 | crazedfred | Seerah: kk. But I can do locals otherwise? |
| 05:07.04 | Seerah | for anything that can be kept internal, sure. |
| 05:07.10 | crazedfred | Seerah: also, can it be local if I only need to pass it as a callback (to Ace addons)? |
| 05:07.12 | Seerah | or you can shove them all in your MyAddon table |
| 05:07.23 | Adys | Seerah: what's with the scrollchild height of 750 then? |
| 05:07.44 | Seerah | Adys: scrollchild can be any height. It only displays 279 at a time. |
| 05:07.48 | mckenziemc | crazedFred: yes |
| 05:08.00 | Adys | Seerah: the height doesn't matter at all or is it used somewhere? |
| 05:08.47 | Adys | sweet i have it working now, thanks :) |
| 05:08.49 | Seerah | Adys: as with any frame, even if you have it set to a height of 1, anything anchored to it will display. |
| 05:09.08 | Seerah | but if you have your scrollchild set correctly, then it will control things properly :) |
| 05:09.08 | mckenziemc | MyAddon:ScheduleTimer(function() self:DoStuff() end, 7) sounds like what you want though, that takes care of the self issue |
| 05:09.37 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: excellent, thanks |
| 05:10.07 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: that's just an anon function which calls my own function? |
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| 05:10.53 | mckenziemc | yeah, adding the self parameter. if your function needs more args, use function(...) self:DoStuff(...) end to add the self parameter |
| 05:11.30 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: roger |
| 05:13.09 | mckenziemc | actually, when dealing with certain libraries (like AceTimer) you can use MyAddon:ScheduleTimer("DoStuff", 7) and the library will take care of the rest |
| 05:13.43 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: That's actually what I'm trying right now, I'm getting an error when I try to call ScheduleTimer on my addon var |
| 05:14.10 | crazedfred | I made a call to AceAddon:NewAddon("SpamSay", "AceTimer-3.0") and saved it as a variable, but using that variable to call ScheduleTimer fails |
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| 05:16.23 | mckenziemc | hmm, it should work |
| 05:16.47 | mckenziemc | what's the error message? |
| 05:17.38 | crazedfred | http://paste.curseforge.com/3050/ |
| 05:17.45 | crazedfred | method not found on target object. |
| 05:19.25 | Seerah | crazedfred: AceAddon = LibStub("AceAddon") ? |
| 05:19.51 | crazedfred | I used: local AceAddon = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0") |
| 05:20.02 | crazedfred | then called AceAddon:NewAddon |
| 05:20.24 | Seerah | then it must not be NewAddon() |
| 05:20.33 | crazedfred | ? |
| 05:21.14 | Seerah | hmm... maybe it is... |
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| 05:21.38 | Seerah | doesn't even use that part of the Ace libraries |
| 05:21.56 | mckenziemc1 | disconnected |
| 05:22.20 | Adys | Seerah: I fiddled around and now I get this http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2011/01/01/scrolls2.jpg |
| 05:22.26 | mckenziemc1 | crazedfred, SpamSay needs to be defined before you call ScheduleTimer |
| 05:22.28 | crazedfred | I'm only using AceAddon because my understanding is that I need AceAddon to use AceTimer |
| 05:22.36 | Adys | Seerah: code: http://paste2.org/p/1173304 |
| 05:22.46 | crazedfred | mckenziemc1: that's the case |
| 05:23.16 | mckenziemc1 | if it's giving you the error then i'd have to guess stuff isn't running in the right order |
| 05:23.17 | crazedfred | I define that variable on line 21 and call the ScheduleTimer function further down |
| 05:23.34 | mckenziemc1 | can i see the code? |
| 05:23.35 | Seerah | Adys: I see what you did now... scrollchild doesn't exist yet when you call SetScrollChild |
| 05:23.41 | crazedfred | sure |
| 05:23.51 | Adys | oops |
| 05:23.55 | Adys | wtf, why isnt it erroring |
| 05:24.07 | Seerah | maybe it fails silently there |
| 05:24.10 | crazedfred | mckenziemc: http://paste.curseforge.com/3051/ |
| 05:24.32 | Adys | Seerah: im pretty sure i had a nonsilent error before |
| 05:24.36 | Adys | thanks though that was the issue |
| 05:24.40 | Seerah | :) |
| 05:25.57 | mckenziemc | crazedfred: passing the function name only works the function is a method in your addon, ie. SpamSay:printHelp(). With the way you have it set up now, you can eithre convert it or take the quotes off |
| 05:26.16 | crazedfred | oh, drat |
| 05:26.29 | crazedfred | I knew it had to be either bad @ embedding or a scope problem |
| 05:26.48 | crazedfred | this first addon can be all local so I'll just strip the quites |
| 05:27.39 | crazedfred | works now, thanks |
| 05:32.37 | crazedfred | Does Lua scripting have to be in order? for example, if I have a myFunction() declared, does anything that call myFunction have to be after it? |
| 05:35.07 | mckenziemc | yes but there are ways to get around it |
| 05:36.04 | mckenziemc | you can declare 'local f' at the top, then 'function g() f() end', then define 'function f() --[[do stuff]] end' at the bottom |
| 05:36.18 | crazedfred | kk |
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| 05:52.03 | Adys | Seerah: is it safe to use a saved variable without waiting for an event? im getting some nil issues here |
| 05:52.23 | Seerah | you mean when first logging in/reloading? |
| 05:52.28 | Adys | yea |
| 05:52.30 | Adys | !api addon_loaded |
| 05:52.31 | lua_bot | ADDON_LOADED: Fires when an addon and its saved variables are loaded (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ADDON_LOADED) |
| 05:52.37 | Seerah | no, you have to wait for them to be available |
| 05:52.41 | Adys | grawr |
| 05:52.43 | Adys | =( |
| 05:54.16 | Wobin | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/148281/if-you-die-run-back-fatties |
| 05:54.39 | crazedfred | approved |
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| 06:00.24 | crazedfred | Somebody lend a hand; I'm being dumb. I'm using the string find function with the regex "^%d+" but it doesn't match the desired strings (strings that start with a number) like "33 test." Shouldn't that regex be right? |
| 06:02.24 | crazedfred | Wait, I resolved the dumbness |
| 06:11.02 | jnwhiteh | crazedfred: its not a regular expression, its a Lua pattern =) |
| 06:11.05 | jnwhiteh | they're quite different |
| 06:11.06 | jnwhiteh | :P |
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| 06:11.55 | crazedfred | jnwhiteh: the expression-pattern-thiiiing actually work, I was just looking at the wrong variable. I was trying to use adapt your calculator example from chapter 17 |
| 06:12.10 | jnwhiteh | *nod* just helping with terminology |
| 06:12.13 | crazedfred | Gotcha |
| 06:12.21 | jnwhiteh | you go into other channels asking for help with a 'regexp' and you'll get stomped :P |
| 06:12.36 | crazedfred | I hear ya |
| 06:12.38 | jnwhiteh | Lua patterns are more powerful, and less powerful than regexp at the same time. |
| 06:12.44 | crazedfred | >< |
| 06:13.10 | crazedfred | Well, if I cause chat-room rage that's what ignore lists are for lol :P They've been put to use many a time in #bash and similar |
| 06:13.22 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 06:14.04 | crazedfred | I often am reminded of this quote: "There's a certain type of person who, when he has a problem, thinks to himself: 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.' This person now has TWO problems." |
| 06:14.26 | jnwhiteh | s/regular expressions/regular expressions, XML, etc./ |
| 06:14.31 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 06:14.31 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:14.38 | crazedfred | indeed |
| 06:15.00 | crazedfred | BTW, is there something ismilar to java's string startsWith(string) function? |
| 06:15.17 | jnwhiteh | no, but you could write one |
| 06:15.19 | crazedfred | I was going to use something like "if (var:sub(1,1) == " |
| 06:15.24 | crazedfred | fair enough :P |
| 06:15.44 | jnwhiteh | a pattern makes more sense |
| 06:15.48 | jnwhiteh | ^foo |
| 06:15.56 | jnwhiteh | a string MUST start with foo to match that pattern |
| 06:15.59 | mckenziemc | couldn't a Lua pattern be considered a kind of regular expression? or does regex refer specifically to a certain syntax |
| 06:16.13 | crazedfred | jnwhiteh: I only need to match a single character in this case |
| 06:16.21 | crazedfred | otherwise I'd probably use a regex |
| 06:16.33 | jnwhiteh | mckenziemc: technically, absolutely correct |
| 06:16.40 | crazedfred | this code could be "spammed" a bit |
| 06:16.42 | Shirik | Ironically, Lua patterns are more of "regular expressions" than PCRE is |
| 06:16.48 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: yes, its silly |
| 06:16.54 | mckenziemc | idk what pcre is >< |
| 06:17.02 | jnwhiteh | Perl Compatible Regular Expressions |
| 06:17.04 | crazedfred | Perl Regex or something |
| 06:17.05 | crazedfred | ^ |
| 06:17.10 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 06:17.11 | jnwhiteh | POSIX |
| 06:17.13 | jnwhiteh | my fail =/ |
| 06:17.29 | Shirik | no you were right |
| 06:17.32 | crazedfred | TL;DR it's a decent standard that IMO everyone should use |
| 06:17.38 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 06:17.42 | crazedfred | if only because I'm tired of learning different ones |
| 06:17.42 | jnwhiteh | crazedfred: ... |
| 06:17.42 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 06:17.43 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:17.47 | crazedfred | see above :P |
| 06:17.50 | jnwhiteh | Lua patterns are much better full stop |
| 06:17.52 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 06:17.56 | crazedfred | don't be hatin' |
| 06:18.03 | crazedfred | hahaha |
| 06:18.04 | jnwhiteh | having implemented Lua pattern matching |
| 06:18.05 | jnwhiteh | it wins |
| 06:18.25 | jnwhiteh | https://github.com/jnwhiteh/go-luapatterns |
| 06:18.29 | Shirik | My biggest issue with PCRE is its algorithmic complexity |
| 06:18.51 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: yep, see Go's re modue and all of their research on it |
| 06:18.53 | mckenziemc | i googled 'liboop' and google asked 'Did you mean libsoup' >< |
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| 06:26.02 | jnwhiteh | !api GetBindingAction |
| 06:26.03 | lua_bot | GetBindingAction: Returns the action bound to a key or key combination (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBindingAction) |
| 06:29.16 | amro | my biggest issue with regular expressions is regular expressions |
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| 06:29.52 | bluspacecow | !launcher |
| 06:29.52 | jnwhiteh | WAH |
| 06:29.53 | jnwhiteh | http://opening-times.co.uk/woodstock-road-chemist-oxford |
| 06:30.14 | bluspacecow | dang if forgot the page for teh breaking news at login |
| 06:30.17 | bluspacecow | halp ? |
| 06:30.25 | karl_w_w | i dont understand why people dislike regex so much |
| 06:30.26 | mckenziemc | ~wowalert |
| 06:30.26 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 06:30.37 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 06:30.50 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: because for a sufficiently complex one, once they're written they become a black box |
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| 06:31.09 | jnwhiteh | you can't know why they were written, or what they're actually doing in most cases |
| 06:31.17 | jnwhiteh | for simple patterns, that's a non-issue of course |
| 06:31.25 | karl_w_w | i see |
| 06:31.27 | crazedfred | there is no simple pattern :( |
| 06:31.34 | amro | sure there is! |
| 06:31.36 | amro | . |
| 06:31.37 | amro | there. |
| 06:31.42 | crazedfred | wait wait SLOW DOWN |
| 06:31.48 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:31.48 | mckenziemc | string.match('crazedfred', 'crazedfred') |
| 06:32.13 | jnwhiteh | guys |
| 06:32.17 | crazedfred | Yea I shouldn't be talking I'm using "^%d+" to great effect |
| 06:32.18 | jnwhiteh | my eyes are doing something weird |
| 06:32.23 | jnwhiteh | they're shifting back and forth |
| 06:32.30 | jnwhiteh | I can't focus on my computer screeen |
| 06:32.38 | amro | how long have you been up? |
| 06:32.43 | jnwhiteh | an hour |
| 06:32.46 | karl_w_w | is that what comments are for though? :P |
| 06:32.49 | amro | there goes that theory |
| 06:32.51 | jnwhiteh | but i've had food poisoning for days |
| 06:32.58 | jnwhiteh | and this is happening non-ocomputer as well |
| 06:32.58 | mckenziemc | yuck |
| 06:33.05 | jnwhiteh | if i look at the wall, it happens as well |
| 06:33.07 | crazedfred | karl_w_w: sure, unfortunately they're not mandantory |
| 06:33.12 | mckenziemc | saccades? |
| 06:33.13 | crazedfred | jnwhiteh: see a doctor... |
| 06:33.20 | jnwhiteh | its a sunday =( |
| 06:33.24 | crazedfred | jnwhiteh: see a doctor... |
| 06:33.31 | amro | It'd still happen if he was looking at a doctor |
| 06:33.35 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:33.39 | mckenziemc | rofl... |
| 06:33.44 | jnwhiteh | its not all the time =( |
| 06:33.52 | amro | I'm not sure what you mean exactly |
| 06:33.55 | amro | is it like REM? |
| 06:34.05 | jnwhiteh | amro: i dont know, that happens while I'm sleeping |
| 06:34.06 | jnwhiteh | but yeah I guess |
| 06:34.10 | jnwhiteh | I look at a point on my screen |
| 06:34.12 | jnwhiteh | and its shaking |
| 06:34.14 | jnwhiteh | horizontally |
| 06:34.21 | amro | that happens to me too, but usually when I'm tired/sleep deprived |
| 06:34.29 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure I'm both =( |
| 06:34.49 | jnwhiteh | I had X (where X is an ungodly number) hours of travel yesterday |
| 06:34.53 | jnwhiteh | I'm also dehydrated |
| 06:34.56 | amro | get some rest, do something that doesn't require eye focus for a bit |
| 06:35.09 | jnwhiteh | everything I do requires eye focus |
| 06:35.18 | mckenziemc | sleep |
| 06:35.27 | jnwhiteh | I just slept for 9 hours |
| 06:35.38 | mckenziemc | sleep more |
| 06:35.56 | crazedfred | hydrate is important too |
| 06:36.08 | jnwhiteh | crazedfred: I have oral rehydration salts, but I can barely keep them down |
| 06:36.14 | crazedfred | buuuut IRC should be the last physical or virtual place to look for medical advice :/ |
| 06:36.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm coming off quite heavy food poisoning =/ |
| 06:36.37 | jnwhiteh | I'm going to my doctor for medical advice |
| 06:36.50 | jnwhiteh | he's just not available at the moment, so I'm just talking :P |
| 06:37.15 | crazedfred | lol good |
| 06:37.32 | crazedfred | Is there a part and raid API equivalent to IsInGuild() ? |
| 06:37.39 | crazedfred | *party |
| 06:38.02 | mckenziemc | !api IsInParty |
| 06:38.02 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'IsInParty'. |
| 06:38.06 | jnwhiteh | !UnitInRaid |
| 06:38.11 | jnwhiteh | !api UnitInRaid |
| 06:38.11 | lua_bot | UnitInRaid: Returns whether a unit is in the player's raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitInRaid) |
| 06:38.14 | jnwhiteh | !api UnitInParty |
| 06:38.15 | lua_bot | UnitInParty: Returns whether a unit is a player unit in the player's party (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitInParty) |
| 06:38.21 | crazedfred | Excellent |
| 06:40.15 | Adys | jnwhiteh: that eye thing is it consistant? |
| 06:40.20 | jnwhiteh | Adys: not at all |
| 06:40.24 | Adys | jnwhiteh: like, try reading a piece of paper |
| 06:40.33 | jnwhiteh | its not even doing it right now |
| 06:40.38 | Adys | hm |
| 06:40.42 | jnwhiteh | it seems better since I dropped the brightness on my monitor |
| 06:40.45 | Adys | any headache? |
| 06:40.49 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 06:40.53 | jnwhiteh | tho I should have one, I don't. |
| 06:41.05 | Adys | been getting any sun lately? |
| 06:41.07 | crazedfred | I have heard that if you have distance perception problems (common with long PC users) you should focus on something 6+ feet away for a few minutes an hour |
| 06:41.38 | jnwhiteh | Adys: RECENTLY no.. but I was in the British Virgin Islands |
| 06:41.51 | jnwhiteh | when I got food poisoning |
| 06:41.55 | jnwhiteh | for lack of proper diagnosis |
| 06:42.03 | Adys | jnwhiteh: how regular are your sleep rythms? |
| 06:42.10 | jnwhiteh | terrible, again |
| 06:42.20 | Adys | ya heres your culprit |
| 06:42.48 | Adys | recently weakened + irregular sleep = weird shit happening |
| 06:42.56 | jnwhiteh | I was awake at 4:30am GMT-4 on the 31st, then had 13 hours of flights and about 6 hours of layover time |
| 06:43.14 | jnwhiteh | did not sleep at all on the redeye flight, given that I was in the toilet every 30 minutes or so. |
| 06:44.18 | jnwhiteh | Curse needs moar AJAX |
| 06:44.24 | jnwhiteh | so I can respond to multiple freaking comments. |
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| 06:44.38 | Adys | jnwhiteh: take a 15-30 min nap in a bit (as soon as you feel tired); and then pick a sleep rythm and stick to it for at least a few days |
| 06:45.16 | jnwhiteh | I'mt rying |
| 06:45.22 | jnwhiteh | I need to go to the chemist at 9ammm |
| 06:45.31 | jnwhiteh | see if they have any palatable oral rehydration salts =( |
| 06:45.53 | Cairenn|afk | if you find any, that don't have aspartame, please tell me! |
| 06:46.14 | jnwhiteh | are you allergic to aspartame? |
| 06:46.19 | Cairenn|afk | yes |
| 06:46.23 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 06:46.26 | jnwhiteh | I think I knew that |
| 06:46.41 | jnwhiteh | I am living 'FML' right now |
| 06:46.43 | Cairenn|afk | and the only ones I could find that don't have any tasted awful, I couldn't even swallow it |
| 06:46.48 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 06:46.58 | jnwhiteh | Cairenn|afk: yeah what they gave me at the clinic literally makes me want to throw up |
| 06:47.10 | Adys | dumb question |
| 06:47.18 | Adys | have you tried apples/pears? :p |
| 06:47.32 | Adys | (jnwhiteh that is) |
| 06:47.33 | jnwhiteh | Adys: doesn't have the right mixture |
| 06:47.41 | jnwhiteh | and don't have any |
| 06:49.08 | Cairenn|afk | I think it's pretty fucking stupid, though - if you're worried about rehydrating someone and fixing their electrolytes, why in god's name are you fussing over it not having 'real sugar' in it? geez |
| 06:49.16 | jnwhiteh | well you should |
| 06:49.21 | jnwhiteh | but the aspartame is for the taste |
| 06:49.36 | jnwhiteh | it HAS to have sugar and salt both to be an oral rehydration salt that's actually worth anything |
| 06:49.43 | Cairenn|afk | that's what I mean though - use real sugar! |
| 06:49.58 | jnwhiteh | you can't |
| 06:50.08 | jnwhiteh | sugar is tied to the salt absorption rates in the body |
| 06:50.14 | jnwhiteh | so you can't have them upset |
| 06:50.22 | jnwhiteh | and the salt missing is the biggest issue |
| 06:50.30 | jnwhiteh | I learned this this morning when feeling terrible again =( |
| 06:50.42 | Cairenn|afk | if someone is using a rehydration solution, everything is fucked anyway |
| 06:51.17 | jnwhiteh | yes, but the point is at the time you injest the liquid, it needs the right ratio in order to absorb the salts |
| 06:51.35 | Cairenn|afk | yeah, but why add aspartame, at that point? |
| 06:51.41 | jnwhiteh | taste =) |
| 06:51.45 | Cairenn|afk | bull |
| 06:51.46 | jnwhiteh | because its non-digestable |
| 06:52.02 | jnwhiteh | I feel like we're fighting =( |
| 06:52.09 | Cairenn|afk | naw |
| 06:52.13 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 06:52.20 | Cairenn|afk | 'cause I <3s you waayy too much to fight with you |
| 06:52.30 | crazedfred | UnitInParty("player") returns true when I'm not in a party... |
| 06:52.31 | Cairenn|afk | 'specially when you're not feeling well :( |
| 06:52.34 | Cairenn|afk | huggles jnwhiteh |
| 06:52.38 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: show your teeth! Show your teeth! |
| 06:53.24 | jnwhiteh | crazedfred: you are ALWAYS in your own party |
| 06:53.29 | jnwhiteh | !api GetNumPartyMembers |
| 06:53.29 | lua_bot | GetNumPartyMembers: Returns the number of additional members in the player's party (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumPartyMembers) |
| 06:53.34 | crazedfred | lol, gotcha |
| 06:53.37 | jnwhiteh | that > 0 tells you if you're in a party |
| 06:53.40 | crazedfred | IT'S ALWAYS PARTY TIME |
| 06:53.57 | crazedfred | now, the UnitInRaid() "works" the way I expect it to, right? |
| 06:54.15 | jnwhiteh | its weird actually |
| 06:54.18 | jnwhiteh | it returns a string |
| 06:54.22 | jnwhiteh | or a number |
| 06:54.27 | jnwhiteh | but sure? |
| 06:54.35 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:54.44 | Adys | a number |
| 06:54.45 | crazedfred | let me rephrase my Q |
| 06:54.48 | Adys | it returns your raid index |
| 06:54.54 | crazedfred | will the code |
| 06:54.55 | crazedfred | if(UnitInRaid("player")) |
| 06:54.59 | Adys | crazedfred: it returns nil if you're not in a raid yes |
| 06:55.00 | crazedfred | work the way I think it does |
| 06:55.01 | crazedfred | kk |
| 06:55.11 | jnwhiteh | if you are checking if the player is in a raid |
| 06:55.18 | jnwhiteh | that's not the right function to use |
| 06:55.28 | crazedfred | it has worked so far at least |
| 06:55.30 | jnwhiteh | or rather, there are other more appropriate ones |
| 06:55.32 | jnwhiteh | so? :P |
| 06:55.36 | crazedfred | lol |
| 06:55.55 | jnwhiteh | again, use GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 06:55.56 | jnwhiteh | and compare the result |
| 06:56.03 | crazedfred | works for me |
| 06:56.10 | jnwhiteh | fine, keep doing it wrong |
| 06:56.12 | karl_w_w | you can be in a raid with nobody else |
| 06:56.24 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: yet, there's still '1' member in your raid, afaik. |
| 06:56.29 | jnwhiteh | !api GetNumRaidMembers |
| 06:56.30 | lua_bot | GetNumRaidMembers: Returns the number of members in the player's raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumRaidMembers) |
| 06:56.37 | jnwhiteh | indeed it does |
| 06:56.39 | jnwhiteh | so I win, again :P |
| 06:56.45 | jnwhiteh | I hate that I know all of this crap. |
| 06:56.45 | karl_w_w | of course :P |
| 06:56.49 | jnwhiteh | no addon author should have to. |
| 06:56.55 | crazedfred | wait, I didn't say that |
| 06:56.57 | crazedfred | "works for me" |
| 06:56.58 | jnwhiteh | I mean, be subject experts in your area |
| 06:57.05 | jnwhiteh | but I know too damn much about the whole freaking API |
| 06:57.12 | crazedfred | oh, no I meant YOUR solution works for me lol :P |
| 06:57.17 | Adys | trust me jnwhiteh you could of a lot worse off |
| 06:57.23 | jnwhiteh | of course it does, why would you need to report that back to me? |
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| 06:57.26 | jnwhiteh | do I ever make mistakes? |
| 06:57.28 | crazedfred | >< nevermind |
| 06:57.31 | jnwhiteh | perish the thought! |
| 06:57.46 | amro | Adys: that sentence won't parse |
| 06:58.00 | karl_w_w | i dont see why you would use getnumraidmembers though :P |
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| 06:58.35 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: becuase |
| 06:58.39 | jnwhiteh | that is what the default UI does |
| 06:58.45 | Adys | karl_w_w: the logic behind the functions is more appropriate; the naming of the functions is just shit |
| 06:58.54 | jnwhiteh | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED and GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 06:59.03 | jnwhiteh | RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED and GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 06:59.08 | jnwhiteh | that is how you check if you're in a raid or party |
| 06:59.16 | karl_w_w | if unitinraid does what you expect it to do, surely that would be less on the cpu |
| 06:59.25 | amro | stop right there |
| 06:59.28 | Adys | but it doesn't. |
| 06:59.42 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: UnitInRaid does precisely what the description says it does |
| 06:59.43 | amro | this isn't anywhere near close to the kind of operation that you'd worry about cpu time on |
| 06:59.48 | jnwhiteh | it returns if a unit is in your raid |
| 06:59.52 | Adys | and you cant possibly optimize on cpu time on this sort of thing |
| 06:59.59 | jnwhiteh | but as we've seen |
| 07:00.03 | jnwhiteh | the player is always in the player's party |
| 07:00.08 | karl_w_w | not trying to optimize, just habit |
| 07:00.10 | jnwhiteh | so that view isn't the way to go |
| 07:00.33 | jnwhiteh | use the right tool for the right job |
| 07:00.38 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 07:00.44 | jnwhiteh | and know that that tool will continue to work |
| 07:00.51 | Adys | karl_w_w: following blizzard's logic will get you into less trouble in the future when things change and so on |
| 07:00.57 | jnwhiteh | at any point in time they could change UnitInRaid("player") to return true all the time |
| 07:01.05 | jnwhiteh | it would be reasonable to do so |
| 07:01.06 | Adys | it will also help you as an addon author to figure out how the api evolves and so on |
| 07:01.28 | Adys | with blizzard, just because it makes sense doesn't mean it's what you should do |
| 07:01.31 | jnwhiteh | I'm going to try to go to bed for another hour |
| 07:01.36 | jnwhiteh | night all |
| 07:01.42 | Adys | jnwhiteh: gnite; try a hot tea |
| 07:01.48 | crazedfred | I made local functions failRaid() and failParty() |
| 07:01.49 | crazedfred | lol |
| 07:01.54 | crazedfred | MAS BUENO |
| 07:02.19 | Cairenn|afk | good luck jnwhiteh, feel better *hug* |
| 07:04.59 | crazedfred | Okay, finally - detecting BG status. Can I check GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() ? |
| 07:05.26 | karl_w_w | !api GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime |
| 07:05.26 | lua_bot | GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime: Returns the amount of time since the current battleground instance opened (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime) |
| 07:05.31 | karl_w_w | no |
| 07:05.39 | crazedfred | it returns 0 ATM.... |
| 07:05.54 | crazedfred | so it'll probably only break if time in bg < 1 second :P |
| 07:06.26 | karl_w_w | when you say detecting Bg status? |
| 07:06.30 | Adys | erm |
| 07:06.31 | Adys | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitInBattleground |
| 07:06.37 | crazedfred | derp |
| 07:06.46 | crazedfred | kk, I longed for something like that and fails lol |
| 07:06.50 | crazedfred | *failed |
| 07:07.52 | crazedfred | wait, that returns the "Numeric portion of the unit's raid unitID" |
| 07:08.23 | Adys | it works like UnitInRaid |
| 07:08.25 | crazedfred | ah nvm, looks like it's nil outside |
| 07:08.26 | crazedfred | yea |
| 07:09.00 | karl_w_w | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBattlefieldStatus |
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| 07:10.08 | Adys | that isnt what you want |
| 07:10.12 | Adys | it'll return shit about queued bgs too |
| 07:10.44 | karl_w_w | you and jn just finished telling us why we shouldnt use UnitInX :P |
| 07:11.15 | Adys | there are more appropriate ways to check whether you're in a party or a raid |
| 07:11.36 | Adys | but "being in a battleground" is too specific/vague to have a preferred method |
| 07:12.03 | crazedfred | Adys: in my case, I want to know what it is appropriate/possible to use the "/bg" channel |
| 07:12.07 | crazedfred | *when |
| 07:12.24 | crazedfred | This isn't working: if(UnitInBattleground("player") == nil) |
| 07:13.20 | Shirik | what do you mean it's not working |
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| 07:13.30 | crazedfred | I FAIL AT IF STATEMENTS |
| 07:13.37 | crazedfred | nevermind :( |
| 07:13.43 | Adys | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumBattlefieldPositions |
| 07:13.49 | Adys | you might want that if you want to check for /bg |
| 07:13.52 | karl_w_w | yeah, remove " == nil" :P |
| 07:13.53 | crazedfred | That whole not-equals operator thing |
| 07:13.59 | crazedfred | ~= |
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| 07:18.29 | crazedfred | Where's the damn create-new-addon button in curseforge |
| 07:18.33 | crazedfred | I never find it |
| 07:20.42 | karl_w_w | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/ |
| 07:20.57 | crazedfred | I feel so dumb |
| 07:21.06 | crazedfred | Twice now I've looked everywhere but there |
| 07:21.24 | karl_w_w | feeling dumb is a natural side-effect of trying to write addons |
| 07:21.30 | crazedfred | lol |
| 07:21.32 | crazedfred | I'm learning that |
| 07:21.53 | Cairenn|afk | and using CF |
| 07:21.56 | crazedfred | I spent 4 hours on a library dis-embedder, which can do amazing things, just not actually dis-embed things |
| 07:22.02 | Cairenn|afk | whistles an innocent little tune |
| 07:22.07 | crazedfred | So now it's just a library updater, lol |
| 07:24.11 | Thunder_Child | now now Cairenn|afk, dont be mean |
| 07:24.21 | Cairenn|afk | ;) |
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| 07:24.33 | crazedfred | I feel that WoWAce probably doesn't get the exposure CF does |
| 07:24.41 | crazedfred | and I dislike wowinterface for no valid reason |
| 07:24.44 | crazedfred | lol |
| 07:25.07 | Thunder_Child | facepalms |
| 07:25.12 | crazedfred | heh |
| 07:25.32 | Cairenn|afk | some people are just oblivious |
| 07:25.48 | crazedfred | what, is there some other site you use? |
| 07:26.12 | Cairenn|afk | some one else want to tell him? |
| 07:26.13 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn is one of the 2 rulers of wowinterface |
| 07:26.22 | Thunder_Child | dolby is the other |
| 07:26.23 | crazedfred | ah, hi :) |
| 07:26.33 | Thunder_Child | and this is Cairenn's channel |
| 07:26.45 | crazedfred | nice to meet ya |
| 07:26.58 | Cairenn|afk | well, no, technically I set this channel up as a multi-site channel |
| 07:27.08 | Thunder_Child | so, yes everyone is entitled to an opnion, some places are better to express them than others. |
| 07:27.19 | mckenziemc | i hate myself |
| 07:27.27 | Thunder_Child | say what you will Cairenn, this is your channel. |
| 07:27.43 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc: 4chan might be better for that |
| 07:27.47 | mckenziemc | self.name = class is NOT the same as self[name] = class >< |
| 07:27.52 | Cairenn|afk | I just run the channel |
| 07:27.57 | Nobgul | Lies |
| 07:27.57 | amro | yes it is |
| 07:28.09 | amro | or well |
| 07:28.15 | amro | same as self["name"] = class |
| 07:28.32 | crazedfred | just FYI I think wowinterface is fine :) |
| 07:28.38 | Cairenn|afk | rofl |
| 07:28.42 | crazedfred | my "brand loyalty" is mostly out of laziness |
| 07:28.44 | amro | it's a little late for that. bring out the hounds! |
| 07:28.50 | crazedfred | lol whatever |
| 07:29.34 | crazedfred | if it makes you feel better I'm baaaad at addons so you're probably better off |
| 07:29.53 | Cairenn|afk | in case you hadn't noticed, it isn't bothering me at all |
| 07:29.57 | crazedfred | cool |
| 07:30.03 | Cairenn|afk | everyone is entitled to their own opinion :) |
| 07:30.11 | Thunder_Child | nor me, but it was quite amusing |
| 07:30.17 | Nobgul | Hehe |
| 07:30.20 | amro | Cairenn's just biding her time. taking over the world can't be rushed |
| 07:30.23 | mckenziemc | i used the former in my code for __index on the table when i meant the latter, and it took me forever to figure out that every time i referenced classes.Stream, it was creating a new one |
| 07:30.39 | Thunder_Child | amro: too late, google is already there |
| 07:30.54 | amro | who do you think controls google? |
| 07:31.02 | mckenziemc | tete |
| 07:31.05 | mckenziemc | hehe* |
| 07:31.16 | Thunder_Child | a monkey |
| 07:31.18 | Nobgul | The hive. |
| 07:31.24 | Thunder_Child | with rubber pants |
| 07:31.41 | Thunder_Child | because both pinky and the brain got what they wanted |
| 07:31.55 | mckenziemc | Thunder_Child, did you just call Caireenn a monkey? |
| 07:32.03 | mckenziemc | Cairenn* |
| 07:32.17 | Thunder_Child | no, because i never said Cairenn was the ruler of google |
| 07:32.24 | Thunder_Child | amro simply infered it |
| 07:32.35 | amro | I never said it either |
| 07:32.45 | amro | I implied, not inferred |
| 07:32.47 | amro | =) |
| 07:32.49 | Nobgul | >_< |
| 07:32.56 | amro | mckenziemc then inferred |
| 07:33.05 | mckenziemc | nah |
| 07:33.11 | mckenziemc | i was extending the implication :p |
| 07:34.40 | Cairenn|afk | chuckles at all the silly boys |
| 07:34.52 | mckenziemc | ^ is not really afk |
| 07:34.58 | jnwhiteh | 70139998 |
| 07:34.59 | jnwhiteh | quick |
| 07:35.00 | jnwhiteh | hack me! |
| 07:35.23 | Shirik | (02:35:17)  -⺠[notice from NickServ]: Invalid password for cladhaire. |
| 07:35.24 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:35.31 | jnwhiteh | authenticator, duh |
| 07:35.36 | Nobgul | Hacks jnwhiteh with a saw |
| 07:35.40 | Shirik | too many digits for an authenticator! |
| 07:35.46 | jnwhiteh | why can't we re-do Peacebloom vs. Ghouls |
| 07:35.48 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: ... no |
| 07:35.50 | jnwhiteh | 25489518 |
| 07:35.52 | Thunder_Child | mo |
| 07:35.55 | Thunder_Child | the phone is 8 |
| 07:35.55 | jnwhiteh | 45267299 |
| 07:35.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 07:36.00 | Thunder_Child | no* |
| 07:36.02 | jnwhiteh | its neither |
| 07:36.05 | jnwhiteh | that's a ruby script on my machine :P |
| 07:36.08 | Shirik | lol |
| 07:36.12 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 07:36.20 | Thunder_Child | everything other than the fob is 8 |
| 07:36.23 | Thunder_Child | there |
| 07:36.46 | dolby | crazedfred: yeah I hate wowinterface too. those bastards |
| 07:36.56 | crazedfred | lol |
| 07:36.58 | mckenziemc | yeah, i was gonna say it was too many digits but then i remembered the other authenticators : / |
| 07:37.20 | crazedfred | I should honestly try to trip over myself more, these first few days of WoW coding have been a clusterfuck |
| 07:37.46 | dolby | gotta start somewhere :) |
| 07:38.00 | Gnarfoz | if you trim leading zeroes (which you can), suddenly, numbers of any length become valid authenticator keys :P |
| 07:38.23 | Gnarfoz | well, maybe not >8 digits |
| 07:38.28 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 07:38.51 | dolby | wtf jnwhiteh you only have a lvl 20 paladin and a lvl 12 druid? |
| 07:39.13 | amro | yeah I just deleted the rest |
| 07:39.17 | Nobgul | lol |
| 07:39.20 | dolby | ahh |
| 07:41.07 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 07:41.11 | Shirik | Happy birthday Ackis |
| 07:41.23 | Thunder_Child | old Shirik |
| 07:41.27 | Thunder_Child | 30 years to late |
| 07:41.29 | Shirik | I JUST SAW IT |
| 07:41.41 | dolby | you saw his birth? |
| 07:42.11 | mckenziemc | heh, my addon works. Now i just have to remove all the debug lines that it took to find the issue... |
| 07:42.43 | Shirik | yes dolby |
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| 07:49.43 | karl_w_w | if there's something worse than shampoo in the eye, I've yet to experience it |
| 07:51.11 | mckenziemc | giving birth |
| 07:51.45 | mckenziemc | so i've heard. I'm exempt from personally experiencing it |
| 07:52.07 | dolby | passing a kidney stone |
| 07:53.41 | airtonix | GREETINGS LOYAL SUBJECTS!!!! |
| 07:55.01 | mckenziemc | Push Button. Receive Bacon |
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| 08:03.59 | airtonix | i resent that |
| 08:06.23 | mckenziemc | passes airtonix some bacon |
| 08:06.56 | airtonix | cries |
| 08:07.02 | airtonix | omnomnomnom |
| 08:07.58 | harl | moien |
| 08:15.38 | airtonix | â ââ¡â© |
| 08:16.06 | airtonix | ~purl tophat is â ââ¡â© |
| 08:16.06 | purl | okay, airtonix |
| 08:16.24 | Shirik | ~purl is redundant |
| 08:16.31 | airtonix | so is your face |
| 08:16.45 | Shirik | so is your tophat |
| 08:16.55 | airtonix | :( |
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| 08:18.25 | airtonix | it's ok Shirik i forgive you |
| 08:18.34 | Shirik | <3 |
| 08:21.21 | Shirik | Is it bad if I put my auction competition on my friends list? |
| 08:22.56 | mckenziemc | is it bad if you ask about it in IRC? |
| 08:23.16 | Shirik | why wouldn't I? |
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| 08:26.49 | mckenziemc | idk, just asking :p |
| 08:28.34 | airtonix | isn't every python object supposed to natively have a __dict__ attribute ? |
| 08:30.36 | Xyphoid | so if i don't train archaeology past 450 do i miss out on twilight highlands / vashj'r digsites |
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| 08:54.12 | Adirelle | Esamynn|Away, ping |
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| 09:14.34 | nevcairiel | Xyphoid: the vashjir digsites got removed. But you also miss out on the epics :D |
| 09:15.57 | mikma | meh |
| 09:17.20 | mckenziemc | heh, 'added 4 changesets with 53 changes to 31 files' |
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| 09:41.04 | karl_w_w | <mckenziemc> Push Button. Receive Bacon <- yes please |
| 09:44.00 | mikma | push button, receive tekkub |
| 09:45.07 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 10:02.40 | amro | push tekkub, receive ??? |
| 10:03.09 | airtonix | impact, your face, scream |
| 10:03.44 | amro | is that an | or an &? |
| 10:04.11 | mckenziemc | |&| |
| 10:05.32 | amro | the forge at ramkahen is a lie |
| 10:05.37 | amro | it doesn't count as a forge |
| 10:05.38 | mikma | yes, it is. |
| 10:06.03 | airtonix | your tophat is a lie |
| 10:06.13 | mikma | no, eat a dick. |
| 10:06.13 | mckenziemc | ~tophat |
| 10:06.13 | purl | tophat is probably â ââ¡â© |
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| 10:09.16 | amro | what's with the mad face? |
| 10:09.35 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 10:09.41 | amro | â¡â© |
| 10:10.04 | mckenziemc | it doesn't render in my client |
| 10:10.14 | mckenziemc | and i didn't set it |
| 10:16.58 | mckenziemc | lua> os.time() |
| 10:16.58 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: 1293962968 |
| 10:17.33 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
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| 10:18.48 | mckenziemc | heh, blizzard -must've- planned that 1-1-11 1:11 thing -- if you check the current wowalert, it uses a different date format |
| 10:19.02 | Fisker | :o? |
| 10:21.07 | Fisker | i'm going to fuck you up mckenziemc |
| 10:23.13 | mikma | mckenziemc: what? |
| 10:23.18 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 10:23.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 10:26.50 | mckenziemc | ~vicarious |
| 10:26.50 | purl | ACTION lives vicariously while the whole world dies. Much better you than I! |
| 10:27.18 | nevcairiel | hey purl is back |
| 10:27.40 | mckenziemc | ~seen purl |
| 10:27.45 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (1d 11h 55m 20s) #botpark (1d 11h 55m 20s) #linuxfund (1d 11h 55m 20s) #waruidev (1d 11h 55m 20s) #how (1d 11h 55m 20s) #sc2mapster (1d 11h 55m 20s) #edev (1d 11h 55m 20s) #fossfund (1d 11h 55m 20s) #hosernet (1d 11h 55m 20s) #norganna (1d 11h 55m 20s) ##ducleague (1d 11h 55m 20s) #ud (1d 11h 55m 20s) ##kierra (1d 11h 55m ... |
| 10:28.04 | mckenziemc | purl, temp is <reply> lua> 7 |
| 10:28.04 | purl | ...but temp is already something else... |
| 10:28.25 | mckenziemc | ~temp |
| 10:28.25 | purl | testing |
| 10:28.44 | mckenziemc | purl, no, temp is <reply> lua> 7 |
| 10:28.44 | purl | okay, mckenziemc |
| 10:28.46 | mckenziemc | ~temp |
| 10:28.46 | purl | lua> 7 |
| 10:28.47 | lua_bot | purl: 7 |
| 10:28.47 | purl | rumour has it, 7 is see sqrt(12345678987654321), or the standard port for ECHO |
| 10:28.55 | mckenziemc | lol wtf |
| 10:29.17 | nevcairiel | dont build an infinite loop, or we'll hurt you |
| 10:29.33 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 10:30.33 | mckenziemc | i don't intend to, though i hadn't considered the possibility of that happening -- it won't though because one or both bots would put the other on temporary ignore |
| 10:30.50 | mckenziemc | assuming they're configured well |
| 10:30.51 | mikma | now, let's change 7 to lua> 7 |
| 10:30.56 | mikma | in purl! |
| 10:31.25 | mckenziemc | hmm, almost worth a try in #supybots-bots |
| 10:31.34 | mckenziemc | #supybot-bots * |
| 10:32.24 | Arrowmaster | from what ive seen you are better off just abandoning supybot |
| 10:32.47 | jnwhiteh | mckenziemc: I'mf airly certain you can't. |
| 10:32.47 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 10:32.52 | jnwhiteh | and the solution for it was very simple :P |
| 10:34.47 | mikma | you ignored purl from lua_bot? |
| 10:35.11 | mikma | on the other hand, purl has protections too |
| 10:35.14 | nevcairiel | ~api boo |
| 10:35.15 | purl | !api boo |
| 10:35.15 | lua_bot | Found 18 possible matches for 'boo'. Please be more specific |
| 10:35.18 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 10:35.25 | mikma | when someone like fisker repeats itself over and over, it'll just ignore him |
| 10:35.38 | mikma | in good occasions, it'll kick him out |
| 10:36.09 | mckenziemc | heh, i suppose that -would- be an issue if purl kicked lua_bot out >< |
| 10:36.18 | jnwhiteh | purl can't. |
| 10:36.18 | purl | Yes I can! |
| 10:36.20 | nevcairiel | purl has no kicking rights |
| 10:36.23 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:36.23 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:36.29 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 10:36.42 | nevcairiel | some of the responses are just awesome, though |
| 10:36.42 | mikma | !kick lua_bot lol |
| 10:36.44 | mckenziemc | i figured -- but it is possible to set up a supybot to do that, right? |
| 10:36.55 | mikma | purl sucks |
| 10:36.55 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 10:39.37 | airtonix | pays purl a large sum of money |
| 10:39.49 | mikma | ~yes |
| 10:39.49 | purl | well, yes is the opposite of no |
| 10:39.50 | airtonix | purl... gogogog |
| 10:39.56 | airtonix | o |
| 10:39.57 | mikma | ~ohyes |
| 10:40.01 | mikma | ~oh |
| 10:40.01 | purl | [oh] the admin of linux.Box.sk |
| 10:40.09 | mikma | mmkay |
| 10:40.13 | mikma | ~buttplug |
| 10:40.13 | purl | hmm... buttplug is rah00's version of hotplug. |
| 10:40.17 | airtonix | ~mikmasface |
| 10:40.30 | mikma | ~yawn |
| 10:40.30 | purl | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 10:41.24 | Arrowmaster | you should see the #debian version of purl, its called dpkg and whenever somebody pastes a real dpkg command line into irc it will respond with something similar to the expected output but with some hilarious changes |
| 10:41.45 | mikma | apt-get moo |
| 10:42.09 | airtonix | apt-get install mikma-face |
| 10:42.19 | mikma | what's up with the fetish towards my face |
| 10:42.28 | nevcairiel | its so cute and fluffy |
| 10:42.33 | Trela | Is it cute, can we see a picture? X3 |
| 10:42.49 | mikma | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=458940809708&set=a.434874079708.224311.718124708 |
| 10:43.04 | nevcairiel | lolbook requires loginz :P |
| 10:43.05 | airtonix | ~purl mikmasface is http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=458940809708&set=a.434874079708.224311.718124708 |
| 10:43.05 | purl | okay, airtonix |
| 10:43.07 | Trela | Wargle, damn Facebook and requiring an account. |
| 10:43.17 | mikma | muhaha |
| 10:43.18 | airtonix | ~purl forget mikmasface |
| 10:43.18 | purl | airtonix: i forgot mikmasface |
| 10:44.10 | nevcairiel | you know, either you write "purl: command", or "~command" .. but ~purl is just weird :P |
| 10:44.15 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/lol/Kuva0086.jpg |
| 10:44.19 | mikma | that's the same |
| 10:44.40 | Arrowmaster | mikma: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/144475 |
| 10:45.14 | mikma | arrowmaster: yeah :) |
| 10:45.22 | amro | !api teleport |
| 10:45.23 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'teleport': LFGTeleport, TeleportToDebugObject, PlayerCanTeleport |
| 10:45.31 | amro | !api lfgteleport |
| 10:45.31 | lua_bot | LFGTeleport: Teleports the player to or from their current LFG dungeon (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/LFGTeleport) |
| 10:48.14 | amro | jnwhiteh: what software is the wiki? |
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| 10:50.20 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/chatlinktooltips/ |
| 10:50.57 | jnwhiteh | amro: what wiki? |
| 10:50.58 | nevcairiel | will not break? quite the bold statement |
| 10:51.02 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: ? |
| 10:51.08 | amro | jnwhiteh: wowprogramming api ref |
| 10:51.11 | jnwhiteh | amro: wowprogramming is Sputnik |
| 10:51.20 | jnwhiteh | This website is powered entirely by Lua, using Sputnik, an extensible wiki package. When the authors and contributers were compiling the electronic API reference, Lua tables were chosen as the data file format, due to it's extreme flexibility and readability. When the time came to produce the online version of the reference, a Lua-based solution was obviously attractive. |
| 10:53.35 | jnwhiteh | why do you ask? |
| 10:54.42 | Trela | Oooooooohhhhhhhh, now your screen name makes sense, J. XD |
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| 10:55.50 | mikma | jimbo white |
| 10:55.58 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:56.04 | mikma | hey |
| 10:56.11 | mikma | you need to remember sign my book |
| 10:56.16 | Trela | Jim = James? |
| 10:56.20 | jnwhiteh | you need to remember to ask |
| 10:56.30 | mikma | yeah, we need to remember that |
| 10:56.42 | mckenziemc | ~darksecrets is <reply> lua> function f(c)return string.char((string.byte(c)-1)%256)end;print((('J(n!jo!mpwf!xjui!Gjtlfs"'):gsub('.',f))) |
| 10:56.42 | purl | mckenziemc: okay |
| 10:56.47 | mckenziemc | ~darksecrets |
| 10:56.47 | purl | lua> function f(c)return string.char((string.byte(c)-1)%256)end;print((('J(n!jo!mpwf!xjui!Gjtlfs"'):gsub('.',f))) |
| 10:56.48 | lua_bot | purl: I'm in love with Fisker! |
| 10:56.48 | purl | O.o |
| 10:56.54 | mikma | HAHAHA |
| 10:57.12 | Trela | What? XD |
| 10:58.01 | mckenziemc | now, who can figure out what i just did? :O |
| 10:58.22 | Trela | Magic. |
| 10:59.13 | jnwhiteh | you mean besides a -1 'cypher'? |
| 10:59.23 | mckenziemc | xD |
| 10:59.26 | jnwhiteh | should have just rot13 :P |
| 10:59.44 | mckenziemc | i wanted the string to be unreadable :p |
| 11:00.05 | mckenziemc | i shoulda just set the factoid and waited to see if anyone would try it >< |
| 11:00.21 | nevcairiel | way to use the %256 as a useless filler :p |
| 11:00.47 | mckenziemc | i know, but i decided to put that in there as a reminder if i/anyone wanted to use a different cipher value |
| 11:01.59 | mckenziemc | although idk what irc clients would do if they saw control characters in the input |
| 11:02.15 | nevcairiel | some have a special meaning |
| 11:02.17 | nevcairiel | like ctcp codes |
| 11:02.22 | nevcairiel | i believe \1 is used for that |
| 11:04.14 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Oh - seemed that AddOn was directly from your book, based on the Google search I did |
| 11:04.30 | jnwhiteh | I can't see it |
| 11:04.30 | Torhal | Plus the description said "Only uploaded so me and my guildmates could get it easier" |
| 11:04.33 | jnwhiteh | project waiting approval |
| 11:04.35 | jnwhiteh | what is it? |
| 11:04.52 | Torhal | ChatlinkTooltips |
| 11:05.32 | Torhal | No file uploaded, so I can't actually verify the code |
| 11:06.04 | nevcairiel | there should be a requirement for a file upload before projects get approved |
| 11:06.36 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: what google did you use? |
| 11:06.42 | jnwhiteh | i'm not positive its one of ours :P |
| 11:07.31 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I usually approve as experimental if I find nothing wrong on the web |
| 11:07.35 | jnwhiteh | any addons that add a timer to the clearcasting spell proc animation? |
| 11:08.02 | Torhal | Actually, was a different book. Sorry |
| 11:08.30 | jnwhiteh | Paul's? |
| 11:09.24 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Yah |
| 11:11.03 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 11:14.37 | mckenziemc | purl, forget temp |
| 11:14.38 | purl | mckenziemc: i forgot temp |
| 11:15.47 | Torhal | mckenziemc: Your obsession with purl is disturbing. |
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| 11:20.58 | mckenziemc1 | Torhal: |
| 11:21.01 | mckenziemc1 | ~asl |
| 11:21.01 | purl | Old enough, yes please, my place. |
| 11:28.16 | mckenziemc | lua> (''):join('a',nil,'b') |
| 11:28.17 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'join' (a nil value) |
| 11:28.40 | mckenziemc | lua> strjoin('a','b',nil,'d') |
| 11:28.41 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: baad |
| 11:29.26 | jnwhiteh | that function is manually implemented :P |
| 11:29.37 | jnwhiteh | i'm sure it doesn't match the c-based implementation in wow. |
| 11:29.59 | mckenziemc | what's the standard form? |
| 11:30.18 | mckenziemc | or is it not implemented at all in default Lua? |
| 11:31.11 | jnwhiteh | its not default Lua |
| 11:32.18 | mckenziemc | is [%w+-=] a 'correct' pattern for getting Base64-encoded text? |
| 11:32.43 | mckenziemc | of course that only matches a single character |
| 11:40.44 | mckenziemc | hadn't someone asked for an addon just like ChatLinkTooltip recently? |
| 11:47.09 | Fisker | test tickles jnwhiteh |
| 11:47.09 | *** join/#wowuidev electronicmaji (~000@unaffiliated/electronicmaji) |
| 11:47.27 | mckenziemc | >< |
| 11:47.43 | electronicmaji | I need assitance. I attempted to install World Of Warcraft but I ended up installing Warhammer instead. |
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| 11:48.01 | Fisker | we don't do psychic evaluations here electronicmaji |
| 11:48.31 | electronicmaji | You do? |
| 11:48.48 | mckenziemc | nah, fisker's in charge of physicals |
| 11:49.22 | Fisker | i once killed a mckenziemc |
| 11:49.37 | electronicmaji | ok? |
| 11:49.40 | airtonix | yes |
| 11:49.44 | nevcairiel | do it again! |
| 11:49.47 | airtonix | sudo rm / -rf |
| 11:49.49 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 11:50.01 | airtonix | electronicmaji, that should fix your problem |
| 11:50.18 | electronicmaji | I do not use linux sir airtonix |
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| 11:50.28 | airtonix | how unfortunate for you |
| 11:50.42 | airtonix | guess your up shit creek in a barb wire canoe without paddles |
| 11:50.50 | mckenziemc | del C:\ntloader |
| 11:51.04 | airtonix | too obvious |
| 11:51.21 | airtonix | like your face mckenziemc |
| 11:51.37 | mckenziemc | don't make me cry |
| 11:51.46 | electronicmaji | Could it be that the installer was so smart |
| 11:51.47 | airtonix | there there darling |
| 11:51.52 | electronicmaji | that it downloaded a superior game |
| 11:51.56 | electronicmaji | and intalled it instead of wow? |
| 11:51.59 | airtonix | possibly |
| 11:52.09 | mckenziemc | i thought you said it installed warhammer |
| 11:52.21 | mckenziemc | now you're being inconsistent |
| 11:52.31 | airtonix | lolumadbro? |
| 11:52.36 | electronicmaji | LOL |
| 11:52.44 | electronicmaji | u mad mckenziemc? |
| 11:52.48 | airtonix | nou |
| 11:52.54 | electronicmaji | I was saying that warhamer >WOW |
| 11:52.56 | electronicmaji | that was the troll |
| 11:52.59 | airtonix | really? |
| 11:53.05 | airtonix | wait |
| 11:53.09 | nevcairiel | but if its better, why do so few people play it |
| 11:53.11 | airtonix | let me re through the log again |
| 11:53.18 | mckenziemc | troll just got trolled :) |
| 11:53.53 | airtonix | ~dice |
| 11:54.04 | mckenziemc | ~8ball |
| 11:54.04 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Better not tell you now |
| 11:54.07 | airtonix | ~face |
| 11:54.07 | purl | i heard face is your_mom |
| 11:54.23 | electronicmaji | nevcairiel: The Point > Your Head |
| 11:54.32 | airtonix | hi Fisker |
| 11:58.39 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
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| 12:00.38 | mckenziemc | ~trout Repo |
| 12:00.38 | purl | ACTION slaps Repo around a bit with a large trout! |
| 12:01.00 | electronicmaji | ~trout fisker |
| 12:01.00 | purl | ACTION slaps fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 12:01.53 | mckenziemc | ~echo @describe electronicmaji |
| 12:01.53 | purl | @describe electronicmaji |
| 12:01.55 | Repo | purl: No project found that matches 'electronicmaji' |
| 12:02.37 | mckenziemc | purl, i love you |
| 12:02.38 | purl | You love you? |
| 12:03.08 | electronicmaji | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/sargeras/emoris/simple |
| 12:03.14 | electronicmaji | bitches u wish you was as pimp as me |
| 12:03.42 | electronicmaji | Wow |
| 12:03.46 | electronicmaji | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.59 | electronicmaji | ill have to bot therazane rep tommorow~ |
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| 12:29.36 | airtonix | wut? |
| 12:30.00 | mckenziemc | wut u want? |
| 12:30.09 | airtonix | u wut want ? |
| 12:30.40 | jnwhiteh | 300 aeo I can go to Outland? |
| 12:30.42 | jnwhiteh | and should? |
| 12:31.08 | airtonix | cost more than that for me to smuggle you across the border |
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| 12:32.00 | mckenziemc | lua> string.rep('%x', 8) |
| 12:32.03 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: %x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x |
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| 12:39.42 | Fisker | yes jnwhiteh |
| 12:39.50 | jnwhiteh | ty Fisker |
| 12:40.31 | mckenziemc | has anyone had an issue with getting disconnected as soon as the loading bar finishes, the first time you log into a char in a WoW session? |
| 12:42.21 | BWMerlin | i have been having a few issues with wow but im not sure if they are wow related or my network |
| 12:42.31 | BWMerlin | i keep getting random lag spikes |
| 12:42.57 | Computerpunk_ | Define lag. |
| 12:43.38 | BWMerlin | from ~400ms to 700ms to 1000+ |
| 12:43.44 | BWMerlin | then back to normal |
| 12:43.53 | BWMerlin | can be anywhere |
| 12:46.01 | wereHamster | how do I check whethre a number is nan? |
| 12:46.34 | mckenziemc | hmm, idk |
| 12:46.41 | mckenziemc | lua> 1/0 = 0/0 |
| 12:46.41 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '1' |
| 12:46.51 | wereHamster | == |
| 12:46.53 | mckenziemc | lua> 1/0 == 0/0 |
| 12:46.53 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: false |
| 12:46.56 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 12:47.08 | wereHamster | lua> print(1/0) |
| 12:47.09 | lua_bot | wereHamster: inf |
| 12:47.40 | mckenziemc | lua> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 12:47.40 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: false |
| 12:47.49 | wereHamster | lua> print(0/0) |
| 12:47.50 | lua_bot | wereHamster: nan |
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| 12:49.02 | wereHamster | I'll just use if n > 0 then ... |
| 12:49.09 | wereHamster | that's good enough for me |
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| 12:56.33 | mckenziemc | hey bluspacecow |
| 12:56.37 | mckenziemc | want to see a new trick? |
| 12:56.42 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 12:56.56 | bluspacecow | i hope its not the pull my finger you fart and do a poop trick |
| 12:57.01 | mckenziemc | no |
| 12:57.18 | mckenziemc | type ~darksecrets |
| 12:57.26 | amro | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 12:57.26 | purl | whips out a sword and chops mckenziemc in half |
| 12:57.32 | amro | hey, that is a cool trick |
| 12:57.34 | bluspacecow | ~fiskerslap |
| 12:57.35 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 12:57.50 | bluspacecow | dang messed it up |
| 12:57.55 | bluspacecow | ~darkchoclates |
| 12:58.34 | bluspacecow | ~darksecrets |
| 12:58.34 | purl | lua> function f(c)return string.char((string.byte(c)-1)%256)end;print((('J(n!jo!mpwf!xjui!Gjtlfs"'):gsub('.',f))) |
| 12:58.35 | lua_bot | purl: I'm in love with Fisker! |
| 12:58.35 | purl | O.o |
| 12:58.42 | bluspacecow | hahhahaa |
| 12:59.07 | karl_w_w | thats awesome |
| 12:59.11 | mckenziemc | :) |
| 12:59.16 | karl_w_w | who doesnt love Fisker |
| 12:59.23 | bluspacecow | well player sir. well played |
| 13:04.18 | olafski | jnwhiteh: you can go to outland, but depending on what your goal is with it you probably shouldn't imo :) |
| 13:04.46 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:04.55 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 13:05.05 | bluspacecow | yes my darling sugar plums poopy tits ? |
| 13:07.41 | jnwhiteh | olafski: oh really, okay |
| 13:07.45 | jnwhiteh | olafski: why is that? |
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| 13:08.10 | nevcairiel | there is no advantage in going there, unless you want orc or draenei fragments specifically |
| 13:08.14 | jnwhiteh | ok |
| 13:08.26 | nevcairiel | also, they require more fragments to solve usually |
| 13:08.29 | jnwhiteh | so just keep farming azeroth until what skill level? |
| 13:09.01 | nevcairiel | basically until 450, then use whatever fragments you have saved up for the epic you want to get |
| 13:09.11 | jnwhiteh | ok |
| 13:11.43 | jnwhiteh | I was going to vial of the sands |
| 13:11.54 | jnwhiteh | are tol'vir fragments harder to get? |
| 13:12.05 | Computerpunk_ | jnwhiteh, they have a low chance to appear. |
| 13:12.10 | Computerpunk_ | I mean, fragments in uldum. |
| 13:12.40 | jnwhiteh | ah, gotcha |
| 13:12.42 | jnwhiteh | that is rough |
| 13:12.58 | Computerpunk_ | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2123-Guides-Contest-Chimaeron-s-First-Kill-Archaeology-Distribution-Blue-Post-Artworks |
| 13:13.06 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: is there something I want as a resto druid? |
| 13:13.13 | Computerpunk_ | 14% chance to get one there. |
| 13:13.36 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: the trinket from the nelfs, and the staff from tolvir, but tolvir is evil |
| 13:14.05 | jnwhiteh | ah, will have to look at the trinket. |
| 13:17.23 | jnwhiteh | how do you choose what you want to work on? |
| 13:17.27 | jnwhiteh | is that more obvious at 450/ |
| 13:17.29 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 13:17.32 | mckenziemc | ok, what things should i test to make sure my addon isn't tainting SetItemRef or anything that uses it? |
| 13:18.00 | nevcairiel | You can't choose, you just pick up fragments and solve whatever project the game throws at you |
| 13:18.22 | Computerpunk_ | ^ |
| 13:18.27 | Computerpunk_ | Basically, RNG profession. |
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| 13:18.41 | Computerpunk_ | Just like my RNG yesterday in Violet Hold. <3 |
| 13:18.53 | Computerpunk_ | Been farming VH to get Zuramat for a month now. |
| 13:19.04 | Computerpunk_ | Finally got Glory of the Hero, lol. |
| 13:19.09 | jnwhiteh | oh.. neat |
| 13:19.14 | jnwhiteh | lies =) |
| 13:19.19 | Computerpunk_ | ? |
| 13:19.24 | Fisker | colored offline/online statuses are not part of the default ui right? |
| 13:19.34 | mckenziemc | for |
| 13:19.39 | mikma | i=1,10 |
| 13:19.46 | nevcairiel | Fisker: they are all colored, all yellow! |
| 13:19.51 | Computerpunk_ | Fisker, in what frame? |
| 13:19.52 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 13:19.58 | Fisker | chatframe Computerpunk_ |
| 13:20.28 | mckenziemc | still confused, WoW or irc? |
| 13:20.32 | Fisker | wow |
| 13:20.33 | Computerpunk_ | [%classcolor%Name] %yellow%has come online. ? |
| 13:20.45 | Fisker | online is green and offline is red |
| 13:20.54 | nevcairiel | thats not default ui |
| 13:21.01 | Computerpunk_ | Don't have that. |
| 13:21.04 | Computerpunk_ | Default is yellow. |
| 13:21.10 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 13:21.11 | Computerpunk_ | Basically a system message. |
| 13:21.13 | Fisker | knew it |
| 13:21.24 | Fisker | i love people who want to go "zomg not addons fault" |
| 13:21.43 | Computerpunk_ | Fisker |
| 13:21.49 | bluspacecow | heh we had one of those guys in the TS forums |
| 13:22.23 | bluspacecow | its not my addons there are all disabled ... stack trace shows recount loaded with 34 MB of lua memory |
| 13:22.27 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:22.42 | nevcairiel | how does a stacktrace show memory? |
| 13:22.49 | Computerpunk | GG, I wait a 30 min queue just to do the last boss in Grim Batol. |
| 13:22.49 | bluspacecow | my bad |
| 13:22.52 | bluspacecow | meant error report |
| 13:22.54 | bluspacecow | crash report |
| 13:26.17 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 13:26.22 | bluspacecow | yar |
| 13:26.33 | Fisker | did i tell you about the time when someone had issues with items loading and stuff |
| 13:26.43 | bluspacecow | i dont believe so |
| 13:26.46 | Fisker | and i told him to look through this support article which told him what to do |
| 13:26.50 | Fisker | Then he said it didn't work |
| 13:27.03 | Fisker | Then someone posted the same thing (Just rephrased in his words of course) |
| 13:27.07 | Fisker | and the same guy said it worked |
| 13:27.08 | Fisker | :3 |
| 13:27.15 | bluspacecow | -________- |
| 13:27.22 | bluspacecow | he knew how to translate |
| 13:27.35 | cbreak | that proves people have you on mental blockout for your sins. |
| 13:28.05 | Fisker | naw |
| 13:37.50 | Computerpunk | Fisker, I still love you. |
| 13:40.42 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 13:40.47 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 13:40.54 | Fisker | do you know if search results for a character gets pruned when the character gets deleted? |
| 13:41.10 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 13:41.14 | bluspacecow | no i don't |
| 13:41.16 | Fisker | nevermind :o |
| 13:41.19 | Fisker | just a forum hiccup |
| 13:41.21 | Fisker | they're back now :( |
| 13:41.36 | Fisker | curious issue though |
| 13:41.45 | Fisker | search results for characters are player@realm |
| 13:42.05 | Fisker | So what happens when he deletes his character and another adopts the same name? |
| 13:42.13 | Fisker | Does he inherit the post in the search results? :P |
| 13:42.16 | Fisker | posts* |
| 13:43.06 | Computerpunk | fictive, no. |
| 13:43.15 | Computerpunk | Fisker, * |
| 13:43.24 | Computerpunk | Posts are tagged not by name, but by account id. |
| 13:43.37 | Computerpunk | Every account chooses a display character. And when you change the display, you have the same id. |
| 13:43.40 | Fisker | i know posts are |
| 13:43.41 | Computerpunk | Depends on how flawed the system is. |
| 13:43.45 | Fisker | search results are not |
| 13:45.35 | Fisker | i was hoping to find the blue posters character/poster/account/whatever id too :( |
| 13:45.39 | Fisker | that would've been hilarious fun |
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| 13:56.40 | Computerpunk | inb4 blizz security hotfix b/c of fisker |
| 14:01.11 | mckenziemc | teehee |
| 14:01.17 | mckenziemc | my character is dancing in midair |
| 14:01.47 | mckenziemc | i knew the holiday stuff was about to despawn so i got on top of one of the wagons xD |
| 14:03.15 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 14:03.16 | Computerpunk | haxx0r |
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| 14:09.36 | Torhal | hacks Fisker's life account and steals all his loot. |
| 14:14.52 | foxlit | "The add-on being skinned is responsible for saving its respective skin settings." << stab stab stab |
| 14:15.11 | cbreak | racist |
| 14:17.36 | mckenziemc | do i need to reload my ui for /console taintlog to take effect? |
| 14:18.00 | foxlit | not as far as I know, however, you probably want to anyway -- just to get all the initial taint. |
| 14:23.33 | Torhal | foxlit: Who the hell wrote that? Ugh. |
| 14:24.05 | foxlit | It's the ButtonFacade FAQ |
| 14:26.18 | Computerpunk | It's a FAQ AddOn alright. |
| 14:27.34 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 14:30.24 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.28 | zenzelezz | Scraps of lua |
| 14:32.49 | Fisker | just get a keg mckenziemc |
| 14:32.57 | Fisker | i believe they have collision :o |
| 14:38.25 | mckenziemc | but how many Scraps of Lua does it take to make a Heavy Lua ? |
| 14:39.58 | mckenziemc | rofl |
| 14:40.15 | mckenziemc | 'Global variable LibStub tainted by Ace3' |
| 14:40.22 | mckenziemc | ^orly |
| 14:43.55 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 14:43.58 | airtonix | no |
| 14:46.50 | Computerpunk | Why would it be tainted? |
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| 14:49.20 | Torhal | Anything touched by unsecured code is tainted. |
| 14:54.16 | mckenziemc | ~taint |
| 14:54.16 | purl | ACTION calls a few functions and nothing is secure any longer. |
| 14:55.43 | mckenziemc | Correction: anything touched by Fisker is tainted. |
| 14:57.51 | mckenziemc | ~mckenziemc is <reply> Any code touched by mckenziemc is tainted. |
| 14:57.51 | purl | okay, mckenziemc |
| 14:59.33 | Computerpunk | mckenziemc, explain what you just did to purl |
| 14:59.55 | Computerpunk | ~emulate mckenziemc |
| 15:02.16 | mckenziemc | ~mckenziemc |
| 15:02.16 | purl | Any code touched by mckenziemc is tainted. |
| 15:03.38 | mikma | ~fisk |
| 15:03.38 | purl | from memory, fisk is FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKKK... |
| 15:03.47 | mckenziemc | lolwhat |
| 15:06.35 | Computerpunk | ~fisker |
| 15:06.35 | purl | well, fisker is the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire, or http:/â/âtinyurl.com/âfisker1, or probably a bot |
| 15:08.26 | Fisker | whey Computerpunk |
| 15:08.31 | Fisker | whey = hey |
| 15:08.33 | Computerpunk | kk |
| 15:08.36 | Computerpunk | Hey again. |
| 15:08.46 | Computerpunk | You ever skinned an AddOn Fisker ? |
| 15:09.06 | Fisker | it should aggro every addon authors if i did |
| 15:09.09 | Fisker | so i won't |
| 15:10.11 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 15:12.49 | mckenziemc | purl, google (.*?) is ($1): <reply> www.google.com/search?q=$1 |
| 15:14.41 | mckenziemc | ~google $1 is <reply> www.google.com/search?q=$1 |
| 15:14.51 | mckenziemc | shrugs |
| 15:16.09 | Fisker | you fail mckenziemc |
| 15:18.08 | mckenziemc | purl, i need a hug |
| 15:18.08 | purl | You need a hug? |
| 15:18.10 | Thunder_Child | thats not going to work mckenziemc |
| 15:18.45 | Computerpunk | purl, huhg me. |
| 15:18.49 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:18.49 | Computerpunk | huhg |
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| 15:25.58 | karl_w_w | how do you do a page redirect on wowpedia? |
| 15:27.58 | karl_w_w | nvm |
| 15:30.03 | Fisker | i once killed a page karl_w_w |
| 15:31.45 | mckenziemc | purl, killed is <reply> I once killed a Fisker! |
| 15:31.45 | purl | okay, mckenziemc |
| 15:32.59 | karl_w_w | what's a page karl_w_w? |
| 15:33.46 | wereHamster | is there an evendt when targettarget changes? |
| 15:34.34 | karl_w_w | Probably. |
| 15:35.23 | karl_w_w | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_TARGET |
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| 15:37.27 | Amarande | grrrrr, is this a bug or WAI? |
| 15:37.37 | Amarande | doesn't seem like city tabards work in LK dungeons |
| 15:37.47 | karl_w_w | limitation |
| 15:37.51 | Amarande | I can see them not working in BC dungeons since those have factions tied to them |
| 15:37.53 | karl_w_w | they only work in heroics |
| 15:38.10 | karl_w_w | there was a blue about it a little while ago |
| 15:38.26 | Amarande | yeah but 70-79 is like 1-60, where there's normally no rep, but in 1-60 you can do it with a tabard and not in 70-79 |
| 15:38.28 | Amarande | they can't fix it? |
| 15:38.45 | karl_w_w | they can they've just got better things to work on :P |
| 15:38.46 | Amarande | (also, do the LK tabards still work in 81-85 dungeons, or is that a limitation as well?) |
| 15:39.04 | karl_w_w | my guess is that they would work but i have no clue |
| 15:39.19 | karl_w_w | why would anyone want to find out? :P |
| 15:39.26 | Amarande | though I'm not sure why you'd want to farm LK rep past 80 unless you're an Engineer, and for that you need the generic Alliance/Horde LK reps anyway, which you can't get on a tabard :S |
| 15:40.05 | Amarande | otoh, the abyssal bag is probably pretty cheap to make now, and you need something or other with ebon blade for that. |
| 15:45.29 | Kraps | ~killed |
| 15:45.30 | purl | I once killed a Fisker! |
| 15:45.36 | Kraps | sweet |
| 15:46.28 | Thunder_Child | you pick up anything yesterday Fisker? |
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| 15:46.46 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: ' |
| 15:47.19 | Thunder_Child | err...bah |
| 15:47.22 | Thunder_Child | i meant Kraps |
| 15:47.26 | Kraps | no |
| 15:47.29 | Thunder_Child | thats what i get for reading and typing |
| 15:47.37 | Kraps | you? |
| 15:48.25 | Mr_Rabies | has anyone else had problems with canceling buffs in and/or out of combat by right clicking? i'm trying to pinpoint which addon is causing it :( |
| 15:48.36 | Thunder_Child | settlers 7, ion assult, swarm arena, and one other i cant remember |
| 15:48.49 | Kraps | wow |
| 15:49.23 | Thunder_Child | oh,divinity 2 |
| 15:49.41 | Kraps | bbl |
| 15:51.23 | Adys | Amarande: city tabards work just fine in WLK dungeons |
| 15:53.27 | Amarande | Adys: hmm. I put my Ironforge one on in Utgarde Keep and didn't get any rep :S |
| 15:53.42 | Adys | maybe you dont deserve the rep |
| 15:54.40 | Amarande | though really I probably should wear the SW one more than the IF one |
| 15:55.07 | Amarande | since SW can actually save me another 250g on epic and 310 flying once I go from revered to exalted |
| 15:55.47 | mckenziemc | Mr_Rabies: blizzard restricted addons' abilities to cancel buffs -- it's still possible but the addons have to be redesigned |
| 15:56.10 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: depending on the addon, currently most of the time you can only cancel out of combat, and sometimes not at all |
| 15:56.20 | Mr_Rabies | but as far as i can tell, it's not an addon doing it |
| 15:56.21 | Amarande | EBB lets you cancel OOC, but not in combat, and Pitbull won't cancel at all even OOC |
| 15:56.37 | Amarande | It depends on how well the addon adapted to the fact that buff canceling is now a secure frames function. |
| 15:56.40 | Mr_Rabies | my buff frames are default |
| 15:57.09 | Amarande | which ... may have its merits, though I'm still not EXACTLY sure how being able to cancel buffs programmatically is a game breaker |
| 15:57.30 | Mr_Rabies | let me link the lua error next time i do it, i believe it said it was auctioneer but i remember reading that it wasn't actually auctioneer but it was getting blamed for one reason or another |
| 15:57.30 | Amarande | I mean, buffs are generally a good thing, and really is it THAT much of a game breaker if people can more easily cancel their pally bubble early :P |
| 15:57.45 | Amarande | (or does the pally bubble have the "click again to dismiss" feature like the mage iceblock does?) |
| 15:58.30 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: if you have Auctioneer, you have Swatter. you'll probably get a message about taint in it ... |
| 15:59.06 | Amarande | also, the timing of making that a secure feature was the worst EVER, but that's pretty much past us now. |
| 15:59.22 | Mr_Rabies | weirdest part is it only seems to really bug out in instances i think |
| 15:59.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's not every time i'm in combat |
| 15:59.36 | Mr_Rabies | and once it's bugged i can't cancel buffs until i reloadu |
| 15:59.37 | Mr_Rabies | i |
| 16:00.01 | Amarande | yeah I had to quit using Pitbull because of a different bug related to group content |
| 16:00.18 | Amarande | waited and waited and waited for an update and eventually went back to X-Perl |
| 16:00.22 | Amarande | even though X-Perl killed my DK once :) |
| 16:01.32 | mckenziemc | couldn't you just use a different addon to handle buffs? |
| 16:03.46 | Amarande | mckenziemc: I'm not sure any of them are able to handle the secure frames in a way that lets you cancel in combat. EBB seems to be about as good as it gets, with OOC canceling only |
| 16:03.57 | Amarande | and I'm sure Elkano of all folks would have found a way to make it work in combat if it could be done |
| 16:04.41 | mckenziemc | eh, but recoding an existing addon adds complications :p |
| 16:05.25 | mckenziemc | (i mention that because that might explain why they haven't been 'fixed') |
| 16:05.37 | industrial | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/pokemon_balls.jpg |
| 16:05.39 | industrial | this ^ |
| 16:06.09 | Amarande | Pitbull's party and raid frames, on the other hand, are well and truly hosed until someone fixes it |
| 16:06.23 | Amarande | unless you only ever do 2-person grouping or 5-man LFD groups where no one ever bails |
| 16:19.22 | airtonix | oO |
| 16:19.28 | airtonix | this media player supports nfs |
| 16:19.39 | airtonix | http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=172&products_id=13956 |
| 16:23.01 | Mr_Rabies | Finally got into an instance: Error: AddOn Auc-Advanced attempted to call a forbidden function (CancelUnitBuff()) from a tainted execution path. |
| 16:24.05 | mckenziemc | lol auctioneer |
| 16:24.35 | mckenziemc | most likely the wrong addon is being blamed |
| 16:24.59 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
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| 16:41.18 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 16:41.21 | Fisker | omg Thunder_Child |
| 16:41.24 | Fisker | you fucking sellout |
| 16:41.29 | Fisker | YOU BOUGHT A FUCKING UBISOFT GAME |
| 16:41.51 | Fisker | i'm so gonna find something to cut you with |
| 16:43.05 | amro | ~cut Fisker |
| 16:43.13 | Fisker | i will die you amro |
| 16:43.26 | amro | i will deaders you Fisker |
| 16:43.35 | Fisker | and why the fuck does that media player look like a cup of coffee to me airtonix ? |
| 16:43.43 | Fisker | i hate you i hate you i hate you |
| 16:43.47 | Fisker | </anakin> |
| 16:44.16 | Amarande | Fisker: heh, it's kinda hard to avoid buying stuff from Ubi or EA lately |
| 16:44.22 | Amarande | unless all you ever buy is Valve and Blizzard stuff |
| 16:44.29 | Fisker | also why is their entire product description just a jpeg? |
| 16:44.31 | Amarande | not to mention, Blizzard is Activision, who are at least as bad as Ubi or EA :P |
| 16:44.38 | Fisker | can't they html? |
| 16:45.03 | Fisker | Blizzard is alright |
| 16:45.31 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: not a sellout, never said i was not going to |
| 16:46.35 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: You're not the first to report that |
| 16:46.37 | Shirik | I need to investigate it |
| 16:47.05 | Shirik | would you mind doing a `/console taintLog 2` and, after it happens next time, log out and send me your taint.log? |
| 16:47.09 | Fisker | well your mom Thunder_Child |
| 16:47.15 | Fisker | you are a gamer |
| 16:47.22 | Fisker | and gamers as a collective stood up against ubi |
| 16:47.58 | Thunder_Child | i must have missed the memo |
| 16:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Ubisoft's DRM puts all other DRM to utter shame |
| 16:49.23 | Thunder_Child | oh, i know about their DRM |
| 16:49.40 | Fisker | they don't use it anymore |
| 16:49.44 | Fisker | but as the saying goes |
| 16:49.47 | Fisker | "Too little, too late" |
| 16:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Then what is the disclaimer at the bottom of this page? |
| 16:50.19 | ScytheBlade1 | http://store.steampowered.com/app/33230/ |
| 16:50.29 | airtonix | thaaaaats what sheeeeeeeee said |
| 16:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | A PERMANENT HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION AND CREATION OF A UBISOFT ACCOUNT ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY THIS VIDEO GAME AT ALL TIMES AND TO UNLOCK EXCLUSIVE CONTENT. [...] UBISOFT MAY CANCEL ACCESS TO ONLINE FEATURES UPON A 30-DAY PRIOR NOTICE PUBLISHED AT http://assassinscreed.com |
| 16:50.55 | airtonix | doesn't matter |
| 16:50.58 | airtonix | the game is crap |
| 16:51.08 | Thunder_Child | since then |
| 16:51.16 | Thunder_Child | RUSE dosent have it |
| 16:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | HAWX 2 does |
| 16:51.43 | Fisker | ScytheBlade1 they silently disabled it over christmas |
| 16:52.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I thought that they simply removed the "must remain connected" part of it |
| 16:52.31 | Fisker | i'm guessing with RUSE, Valve and Ubisoft probably got in a pissing contest since it was using Steamworks |
| 16:52.39 | Amarande | also, Steam itself has Internet connection related DRM ... :S |
| 16:52.49 | Fisker | true ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:53.02 | cbreak | ScytheBlade1: that sounds like the SC2 eula |
| 16:53.14 | Amarande | not to mention, a rather large percentage of Valve games are rather useless without an Internet connection anyway |
| 16:53.15 | Fisker | only activation Amarande, besides it's not internet activation or even pressence that bothers me |
| 16:53.23 | Amarande | you'll be pretty lonely in CS:S without net. :) |
| 16:53.26 | airtonix | seems they didn't include the "we made this game much more awesome" |
| 16:53.34 | ScytheBlade1 | cbreak: then you have never noticed the "guest mode" button on the SC2 start screen |
| 16:53.35 | Fisker | more the always on, you get game data from the internets or you don't fuckin' play-drm that bothers me |
| 16:53.45 | ScytheBlade1 | cbreak: which is not even an option with Ubi's stuff |
| 16:53.49 | Fisker | CS:S is a multiplayer game |
| 16:53.53 | cbreak | ScytheBlade1: I can only do single player stuff that way. And not lan playing :/ |
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| 16:54.17 | cbreak | does this ubisoft thing even have a single player mode? |
| 16:54.17 | ScytheBlade1 | cbreak: it is EXCLUSIVELY single player :) |
| 16:54.20 | cbreak | maybe they just did it like blizzard and removed any lan functionality |
| 16:54.32 | cbreak | ... and it requires permanent internet connection? |
| 16:54.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. |
| 16:54.37 | cbreak | ... are they dumb or something? |
| 16:54.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes. |
| 16:54.40 | airtonix | yes |
| 16:54.52 | Fisker | It's ubisoft |
| 16:54.55 | crazedfred | lol |
| 16:54.57 | Fisker | did you see their E3 presentation? |
| 16:54.58 | crazedfred | which new game? |
| 16:55.03 | airtonix | new? |
| 16:55.03 | Amarande | Fisker: it sounds a bit like the Bioware authentication for the Neverwinter Nights premium content, then |
| 16:55.04 | Fisker | The only one worse than that was capcom or something |
| 16:55.05 | airtonix | LAWl |
| 16:55.06 | crazedfred | right |
| 16:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't like what they did with SC2, don't get me wrong |
| 16:55.17 | crazedfred | I thought they were doing it to people AGAIN |
| 16:55.21 | Amarande | IIRC, each time you play any of the premium modules or load a saved game from one, it has to check online to see that your CD key is authorized for it |
| 16:55.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But Ubisoft is seriously an entirely different story |
| 16:55.28 | Fisker | i fucking lol'd when Ubisoft showed off this laser tag game |
| 16:55.32 | Fisker | but with integration to a console |
| 16:55.38 | Fisker | IT'S THE NEXT BIG THIIIIIING OMG |
| 16:55.41 | airtonix | CAPCOM : Because we are so used to building video arcade machines we hold a gun to each of our customers heads |
| 16:56.13 | airtonix | Our last success was four player street fighter |
| 16:56.25 | crazedfred | One of the Ubisoft execs actually tweeted about how HE lost his progress in Creed 2 due to internet hiccup.... |
| 16:56.42 | Fisker | ah yes i recall that |
| 16:57.03 | Fisker | anyways internet activation, cloud services, etc. |
| 16:57.04 | Fisker | all good |
| 16:57.08 | crazedfred | when your own exec is tweeting about (and I quote) "fail" in regards to your product, you need to change things |
| 16:57.17 | Fisker | Just don't have it be an "omg you're offline i won't let you play"-thing |
| 16:57.21 | airtonix | i would make the game better first |
| 16:57.49 | airtonix | it's an incredibly crapactulous game |
| 16:57.59 | crazedfred | I'm just confused who could really think always-on was a good idea |
| 16:58.08 | crazedfred | How did that get out of committee? |
| 16:58.16 | airtonix | the kind of people that make crap games ? |
| 16:58.21 | crazedfred | I suppose |
| 16:58.40 | cbreak | I wonder how terrible blizzard will fail with Diablo 3 |
| 16:58.44 | Fisker | the same way all of the other copy protections sworn to solve piracy was thought as a good idea |
| 16:58.48 | airtonix | "it's so crap people will just pirate it instead... so we need to lock it down tighter than a nuns..." |
| 16:58.51 | crazedfred | But, but... they made the Splinter Cell series! |
| 16:58.57 | cbreak | I plan to be able to play it while commuting. |
| 16:59.02 | cbreak | (so no network connection) |
| 16:59.08 | Fisker | if i were sony i would've pissed my pants laughing over all the retards buying securom licenses |
| 16:59.46 | foxlit | "cbreak: I wonder how terrible blizzard will fail with Diablo 3" << I doubt it'll have single player. |
| 16:59.54 | foxlit | s/single/offline single/ |
| 17:00.14 | cbreak | wasn't diablo always a single player game? |
| 17:00.17 | crazedfred | that was his point, I think |
| 17:00.32 | ScytheBlade1 | cbreak: diablo one had multi |
| 17:00.38 | nevcairiel | so did 2 |
| 17:00.51 | cbreak | I played the demo for both... only single player :) |
| 17:00.58 | ScytheBlade1 | demo, yes |
| 17:01.07 | nevcairiel | the online ladders also gave you a bonus |
| 17:01.11 | nevcairiel | when playing them |
| 17:01.15 | nevcairiel | some runes only dropped there |
| 17:01.16 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 17:01.17 | cbreak | they were very good demos. |
| 17:01.44 | foxlit | They're pitching it as a social game to play with your friends, so there's no escaping Battle.net. |
| 17:01.45 | Fisker | i pretty much never played diablo 2 offline |
| 17:02.01 | cbreak | ... great... |
| 17:02.02 | Fisker | don't think i'll see a reason to do so in D3 either |
| 17:02.07 | foxlit | I doubt they'd let you bring local data (open battle.net in d2)... so that's pretty much the end of it. |
| 17:02.08 | cbreak | how the hell am I supposed to get friends now? |
| 17:02.08 | airtonix | i played your mum offline |
| 17:03.06 | mckenziemc | skins Fisker |
| 17:03.09 | Fisker | i just wish they'll get rid of the whole closed-battle.net ladder vs. non-ladder nonsense |
| 17:03.33 | crazedfred | Personally I'm waiting for Starcraft 2 server emulation, just like Starcraft 1 |
| 17:04.03 | crazedfred | I'll play Starcraft 2 eventually, but I'm not buying this one on account of no LAN support, which is the only reason I bought SC1 |
| 17:04.27 | airtonix | reported |
| 17:04.31 | crazedfred | :/ |
| 17:04.33 | crazedfred | lol |
| 17:04.35 | Fisker | i was about to say that airtonix |
| 17:04.38 | cbreak | what I wonder is: why do I need to rely on blizzard's shitty and unreliable server to play vs. an ai? |
| 17:04.49 | airtonix | you will submit |
| 17:05.02 | Fisker | you don't cbreak |
| 17:05.08 | crazedfred | they are insecure about their game and don't understand how thepiratebay works |
| 17:05.29 | airtonix | is that sarcasm ? |
| 17:05.44 | airtonix | because i'm pretty sure they understand how floppy drives work |
| 17:05.53 | crazedfred | lol |
| 17:05.59 | airtonix | no |
| 17:06.03 | airtonix | this is no laughing matter |
| 17:06.09 | nebula169 | don't don't don't copy that floppy |
| 17:06.13 | crazedfred | ^ |
| 17:07.25 | Fisker | floppies? |
| 17:07.28 | Fisker | we don't use that anymore |
| 17:07.43 | Adirelle | flop-what ? |
| 17:07.47 | crazedfred | floppies? where we're going we don't need... roads. I mean floppies. |
| 17:08.07 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUCyvw4w_yk <-there's a whole new late-90's-cgi soundtrack out |
| 17:08.15 | Alram | hi Fisker |
| 17:08.37 | Fisker | hey Alram |
| 17:08.46 | wereHamster | is it != or ~= in lua? |
| 17:08.57 | Amarande | Heh. I only even HAVE a floppy drive anymore because I've used this same case for most of the past decade |
| 17:08.57 | airtonix | ~ |
| 17:09.09 | Amarande | I can't even remember the last time I actually inserted a disk into it |
| 17:09.10 | mckenziemc | 'hay' is for horses and cows like quiescens |
| 17:09.22 | Alram | how are you Fisker |
| 17:09.30 | airtonix | inserts into Amarande |
| 17:09.31 | Amarande | or if it's full of more dust now than an enchanting bag |
| 17:09.32 | Fisker | i'm Fisker Alram |
| 17:09.33 | Alram | we havent talked since 2010 or something |
| 17:09.36 | Alram | good Fisker |
| 17:09.45 | Fisker | it's been a year already? |
| 17:09.52 | Kraps | wtb rain |
| 17:10.07 | mckenziemc | wts snow |
| 17:10.10 | airtonix | i'll sell you some |
| 17:10.18 | airtonix | paranoid free rain |
| 17:10.37 | Kraps | paranoid free? is that even a feature? |
| 17:10.45 | airtonix | looks like you need it |
| 17:12.50 | Kraps | just because i'm paranoid doesnt meant they're not out to get me |
| 17:12.54 | Wobin | a for orses |
| 17:12.58 | Wobin | b for mutton |
| 17:13.10 | Wobin | m fer cema |
| 17:13.13 | airtonix | w for face |
| 17:14.25 | Fisker | oh lol |
| 17:14.27 | Kraps | i hate you all |
| 17:14.44 | airtonix | is that why you made assasin creed ? |
| 17:14.47 | Fisker | i always thought DP was for double penetration of state officials and not digital protection |
| 17:15.29 | Thunder_Child | actually it's for digital photography |
| 17:15.55 | Kraps | dirty perverts |
| 17:16.00 | Kraps | hey Thunder_Child |
| 17:16.10 | Kraps | whats good |
| 17:16.25 | Amarande | ok, the animal blood debuff in Borean looks AMAZING if you mount a netherdrake while having it |
| 17:17.00 | Kraps | who here has Rhythm Zone? |
| 17:17.45 | Kraps | do you agree that it has the worst track builder of any rhythm game ever? |
| 17:19.12 | airtonix | no |
| 17:19.20 | airtonix | assassins creed does |
| 17:19.37 | Fisker | i once built a track in airtonix |
| 17:19.49 | airtonix | just one? |
| 17:19.59 | Kraps | airtonix: you're stupid |
| 17:20.03 | Fisker | that's for me to know and you to find out |
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| 17:30.36 | Amarande | oh wow that was odd |
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| 17:30.51 | Amarande | I went afk for a moment while flying on my mount towards Valiance Keep, was just outside it, no mobs in sight |
| 17:30.55 | Amarande | then I come back and I'm dead. :S |
| 17:31.44 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbucBeIbhA <-nice dual-purpose |
| 17:37.49 | crazedfred | Fisker: .... damnit, my brain >< |
| 17:40.37 | Fisker | what brain? |
| 17:41.41 | crazedfred | well played |
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| 17:43.31 | smcn | so... anyone else still having login problems? i thought they fixed it last night? |
| 17:43.38 | airtonix | no |
| 17:43.45 | airtonix | i am not having login problems |
| 17:43.48 | smcn | weird |
| 17:43.54 | airtonix | not really |
| 17:44.01 | airtonix | makes perfect sense |
| 17:44.05 | smcn | :P |
| 17:44.50 | mckenziemc1 | yeah i started having issues again |
| 17:44.51 | airtonix | especially since i don't play wow |
| 17:45.01 | crazedfred | I didn't have any problems at all until they claimed it was fixed, now it takes me several attempts / minutes to get in. |
| 17:45.01 | Fisker | i have no login problems either |
| 17:45.03 | Fisker | but i play wow |
| 17:45.05 | mckenziemc1 | was fine a few hours ago then got really bad |
| 17:45.15 | Fisker | absolutely no issues here |
| 17:45.17 | Fisker | not yesterday either |
| 17:45.30 | airtonix | maybe you need a new fridge? |
| 17:45.36 | Fisker | could be |
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| 17:46.49 | smcn | i keep getting "unable to connect", and if i try to log in again before my autheticator code rolls over it gives me "invalid login information", logging in to battle.net works though |
| 17:46.53 | smcn | QQ |
| 17:47.02 | Kraps | what, look how many of these are ps3 exclusives http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/gallery/2010/dec/31/hot-games-for-2011#/?picture=370179984&index=0 |
| 17:47.50 | Kraps | ~wowalert |
| 17:47.50 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 17:48.03 | Kraps | smcn: ^ |
| 17:48.27 | smcn | yeah i know, but that was over 12 hours ago :P |
| 17:49.44 | foxlit | Oh hey, last guardian! |
| 17:50.12 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/6/8/ :( |
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| 17:58.28 | Mr_Rabies | <@Shirik> would you mind doing a `/console taintLog 2` and, after it happens next time, log out and send me your taint.log? |
| 17:58.41 | Mr_Rabies | just did this, whoa there's a ton of taint in here, hahaha |
| 17:58.50 | Shirik | well taint is not a bad thing |
| 17:58.57 | Shirik | taint in the wrong places is a bad thing |
| 17:59.02 | Shirik | every addon will taint something |
| 17:59.19 | Mr_Rabies | should i DCC it to you or what? :O |
| 18:00.52 | Thunder_Child | thats taint right Shirik |
| 18:01.01 | Thunder_Child | s/s// |
| 18:01.04 | Shirik | I'm not sure dcc is going to work |
| 18:01.26 | Shirik | email it to tg.skullshot@gmail.com |
| 18:03.10 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: the resale |
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| 18:04.55 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: bah, last day of the sale and they do reapeats |
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| 18:05.40 | Fisker | of course |
| 18:05.43 | Fisker | they always do |
| 18:05.51 | Mr_Rabies | uh shirik is the taintlog supposed to be this huge |
| 18:05.52 | Fisker | i just hated it that they put one in the middle of it all as well |
| 18:05.52 | Mr_Rabies | jeez |
| 18:05.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:06.03 | Shirik | zip it up if it's too big |
| 18:06.19 | Mr_Rabies | it's 22 mb for like 10 minutes of running or so |
| 18:06.29 | Fisker | i'm glad no selloutsoft titles actually sold well enough |
| 18:06.51 | Thunder_Child | ok, http://store.steampowered.com/app/46450/ is a really funny video |
| 18:06.58 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: ^ |
| 18:07.11 | Shirik | Mr_Rabies: It literally records every little thing of interest |
| 18:07.19 | Shirik | which can happen a lot |
| 18:09.19 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: lolwut |
| 18:09.35 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: like it says, it's an RPG spoof |
| 18:09.55 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: you're getting it? |
| 18:10.03 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: probably |
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| 18:10.27 | Amarande | bah, some people should just be glad that I'm a kind person by nature. some mages would have chewed someone out for not tipping after being given a port. |
| 18:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | wow nice time for 7zip to poo the bed |
| 18:13.18 | Cide | is it sad that my network card is less reliable than usb tethering to my phone to my wifi? |
| 18:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | very much yes |
| 18:13.57 | Mr_Rabies | whoa |
| 18:14.29 | Mr_Rabies | Shirik: Sent |
| 18:14.39 | Shirik | <3 |
| 18:14.48 | Shirik | you'll want to turn that off now |
| 18:14.50 | Shirik | by doing /console taintLog 0 |
| 18:15.01 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: in 6 months i went from a $400 steamcalc to $2400 :( |
| 18:15.06 | Mr_Rabies | was that what was making my computer eat its own head in nagrand |
| 18:15.15 | Shirik | probably |
| 18:17.09 | Fisker | you bought a $2400 steam calculator Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:18.50 | Thunder_Child | yes Fisker |
| 18:19.15 | Fisker | wow |
| 18:23.04 | Cide | what are you making Shirik |
| 18:23.09 | Cide | you keep spamming me with online/offline |
| 18:23.16 | cbreak | why not an abacus for a tenth of that price? :) |
| 18:23.17 | Shirik | stuff for auctioneer |
| 18:24.08 | ScytheBlade1 | My steam account is worth $2200 it would seem =[ |
| 18:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | $2276.55 USD actually |
| 18:28.30 | Fisker | mine is 500 away from being the most awesome 5 digit steam id |
| 18:28.33 | Fisker | http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/Fisker |
| 18:28.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | what the what |
| 18:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 18:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 13:29 < Ius> That's a lot of games |
| 18:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | 13:29 < Ius> I'll be impressed when he beats them all |
| 18:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | @ you, Fisker |
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| 18:31.02 | Adys | http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/adys |
| 18:31.04 | Adys | hm. |
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| 18:33.05 | Adys | [18:27:14] <Fisker> mine is 500 away from being the most awesome 5 digit steam id |
| 18:33.07 | Adys | i dont get it |
| 18:35.51 | Zyn- | my first Steam account was only a 3 digit SteamID |
| 18:35.56 | Zyn- | wish I kept it just for that |
| 18:36.12 | nevcairiel | why would you change steam accounts? |
| 18:36.16 | nevcairiel | i still have my 3 digit |
| 18:36.19 | nevcairiel | 808! |
| 18:36.20 | Adys | oh that id |
| 18:36.25 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: whats so awesome about 31378? |
| 18:36.29 | olafski | I don't even know how I can see my steam id :P |
| 18:36.33 | Zyn- | I did the awesome unlock-HL2-by-unplugging-the-modem trick on release day :3 |
| 18:36.37 | Zyn- | bad idea |
| 18:36.59 | nevcairiel | you got banzored, eh |
| 18:37.13 | Thunder_Child | olafski: is it olafski? |
| 18:37.14 | A-KO | http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/01/california-pastor-who-backed-prop-8.html <lol |
| 18:40.04 | olafski | no clue thunder_child :P |
| 18:40.33 | Thunder_Child | olafski: the name is whatever name you use to log in |
| 18:42.37 | Fisker | heh ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:43.09 | Fisker | a lot of them are even games where i was just like "Hey i liked it x years ago, why not get it now" and then never play it anyway |
| 18:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | THE POINT STANDS |
| 18:45.47 | olafski | thunder_child: I thought I logged in with my email address.. been a while |
| 18:46.07 | Fisker | you did? |
| 18:46.13 | Fisker | it was emails to begin with |
| 18:46.16 | Fisker | then they changed to emails |
| 18:46.18 | Fisker | err |
| 18:46.19 | Fisker | usernames |
| 18:46.38 | olafski | lemme see if I have steam installed :P |
| 18:47.09 | Adys | nevcairiel: slashdot for gamers |
| 18:47.47 | olafski | yer it says at top right "[email]'s account" fisker |
| 18:48.07 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:48.46 | olafski | ok closed it again.. steam :< |
| 18:48.57 | Fisker | oh u |
| 18:49.13 | Cide | they changed to usernames but if you had an email before it is now your username |
| 18:50.48 | nevcairiel | yeah, old accounts are all by email |
| 18:55.18 | jnwhiteh | Adys: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetVideoOptions |
| 18:55.22 | jnwhiteh | just as an example |
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| 18:55.48 | Adys | jnwhiteh: not loading -- example for? |
| 18:55.55 | jnwhiteh | ... returns |
| 18:55.57 | Adys | ah |
| 18:56.14 | jnwhiteh | catching up on edits |
| 18:56.16 | jnwhiteh | should load for ya |
| 18:56.59 | Adys | yeah loads now |
| 18:57.52 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: steamcalc doesnt work for me |
| 18:58.00 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: how so? |
| 18:58.28 | Kraps | this is me http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198013688030 |
| 18:58.54 | Kraps | but on steamcalc it looks for http://steamcommunity.com/id/ |
| 18:58.58 | Kraps | i think |
| 18:59.24 | Cide | so get an id? |
| 18:59.28 | Cide | I think it's optional |
| 18:59.35 | Kraps | how? |
| 18:59.44 | Cide | fuck if I know |
| 18:59.48 | Thunder_Child | "To setup a custom URL, log in to your Steam account and click on settings." |
| 19:02.29 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: and then?... |
| 19:03.07 | Cide | you choose one |
| 19:03.31 | Fisker | tickles jnwhiteh |
| 19:03.33 | Thunder_Child | oh, |
| 19:03.40 | Kraps | whatchu talkin bout willis |
| 19:03.45 | Kraps | i mean cide |
| 19:04.06 | jnwhiteh | hihi |
| 19:04.06 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: try http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198013688030/edit |
| 19:04.11 | Thunder_Child | does that work for you? |
| 19:04.21 | Kraps | error |
| 19:04.25 | Kraps | so no |
| 19:04.31 | Thunder_Child | ok, well then log into community |
| 19:04.35 | Fisker | i once error'd |
| 19:04.38 | Thunder_Child | then go to profile |
| 19:04.47 | Thunder_Child | should be the second section down |
| 19:04.53 | Thunder_Child | says Custom URL |
| 19:05.20 | Kraps | oic |
| 19:06.42 | Kraps | derp i cant use Kraps |
| 19:07.00 | Kraps | estupido |
| 19:07.16 | Kraps | grrrrs |
| 19:09.38 | Kraps | Found 113 Games with a value of $1869.83 USD |
| 19:09.43 | Kraps | ouch |
| 19:12.49 | crazedfred | Lovely how Steam remembers all the hours played, forever |
| 19:13.01 | crazedfred | Makes trolling people about how little life they have MUCH easier! |
| 19:14.52 | Kraps | Ackis: |
| 19:15.00 | Kraps | i will kill you |
| 19:15.05 | Kraps | soon |
| 19:16.10 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: today is the last day? |
| 19:17.21 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 19:17.26 | Fisker | that's 2012 |
| 19:18.53 | Kraps | Fisker: if today was your last day and tomorrow was too late would you say goodbye to yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrXIQQ8PeRs |
| 19:19.04 | Amarande | heh apparently I have 60+ hours logged on Dragon Age and haven't even played it yet |
| 19:19.26 | Amarande | yay for going to work/sleep while DLC installs, time having to delete and redownload DLC because the EA authorization system is glitchy as all get out ... |
| 19:20.07 | Fisker | nickelback should shut the fuck up Kraps |
| 19:21.03 | Kraps | if today was your last day would you make your mark by mending a broken heart Fisker |
| 19:21.42 | crazedfred | shoots himself |
| 19:22.26 | crazedfred | goodbye cruel world. cruel, nickleback-linking world |
| 19:22.26 | Ackis | Kraps: why so kill me? |
| 19:22.41 | mikma | http://www.steamcalculator.com/id/mikma |
| 19:22.48 | Kraps | Ackis: why so friendly :( |
| 19:23.03 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:23.53 | Kraps | crazedfred: what if today was your last day |
| 19:24.05 | crazedfred | >< |
| 19:24.34 | crazedfred | Allow me to derail to a different song by saying I'D LIVE LIKE I WAS DYYIIINNNNGGG |
| 19:24.35 | crazedfred | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xSGLZd9Vg4 |
| 19:24.38 | Ackis | I hope Kraps and Parnic accept my steam friend invites :P |
| 19:25.31 | Fisker | i wish Parnic loved me |
| 19:26.42 | Kraps | crazedfred: incidentally i like country music |
| 19:26.50 | crazedfred | Kraps: drat :P |
| 19:27.12 | Kraps | LP |
| 19:27.16 | Kraps | :p * |
| 19:28.05 | Kraps | http://steamcommunity.com/id/Krapsy |
| 19:28.16 | crazedfred | at least you understand the humor in deflecting one terrible song with another |
| 19:28.18 | Kraps | since Kraps is taken :( |
| 19:28.19 | crazedfred | oh schnaps |
| 19:28.34 | Parnic | what's all this? |
| 19:28.34 | Kraps | crazedfred: no |
| 19:28.40 | crazedfred | heh |
| 19:28.56 | crazedfred | (see what I did thar?!?!) |
| 19:28.56 | Ackis | Kraps: that's a shitty name man |
| 19:29.15 | amro | !api Mana |
| 19:29.16 | lua_bot | Found 10 possible results for 'Mana': EquipmentManagerClearIgnoredSlotsForSave, EquipmentManager_UnpackLocation, GetUnitManaRegenRateFromSpirit, UNIT_MANA, GetManaRegen, EquipmentManagerUnignoreSlotForSave, UnitMana, UnitManaMax, EquipmentManagerIsSlotIgnoredForSave, EquipmentManagerIgnoreSlotForSave |
| 19:29.17 | Kraps | Ackis: before i kill you, tell me why |
| 19:29.33 | Ackis | Just punning off of your name bro |
| 19:30.05 | Kraps | dang i usually pick up on that :( |
| 19:30.28 | crazedfred | lol |
| 19:30.30 | Kraps | crazedfred: so what music do you like? |
| 19:30.42 | crazedfred | Kraps: I'm just being a hater, I'll listen to a lot of things |
| 19:31.06 | crazedfred | I like a lot of the less-repetitive Trance/Techno varieties, OceanLab is one favorite |
| 19:31.22 | crazedfred | for any other band names I'd have to look @ my Pandora stations :P |
| 19:32.02 | crazedfred | oh yeah: The Presets, Dirty Vegas, Morgan Page, The Crystal Method, Venus Hum, etc |
| 19:32.06 | Cide | so good bands you don't even remember the names |
| 19:32.13 | crazedfred | I know right |
| 19:32.21 | crazedfred | 99% of my music comes via Pandora these days |
| 19:32.32 | Kraps | well you know what they say about haters http://i.imgur.com/ObWzm.jpg |
| 19:32.40 | crazedfred | lol |
| 19:32.53 | crazedfred | thats a good version of the meme |
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| 19:33.15 | crazedfred | if you're not addicted to http://comixed.memebase.com/ yet you should be, they use that sort of stuff a lot |
| 19:33.25 | crazedfred | unfortunately the older stuff is funnier than the latest |
| 19:46.45 | A-KO | this fight is the suck :( |
| 19:46.49 | A-KO | resto druid healing is so bad :( |
| 19:47.07 | nevcairiel | what fight? |
| 19:48.22 | Shirik | obviously |
| 19:48.26 | Shirik | holy priests are so much better |
| 19:49.24 | Thunder_Child | holy pallies still top the charts however |
| 19:49.38 | Shirik | topping the charts != most effective |
| 19:49.52 | Thunder_Child | in this case yes |
| 19:49.58 | Shirik | negative |
| 19:50.00 | Shirik | holy pallies suck |
| 19:50.37 | nevcairiel | healing is pretty balanced right now |
| 19:50.52 | nevcairiel | i have no issues in any fight as a resto druid |
| 19:51.53 | Shirik | everyone sucks except holy priests |
| 19:53.50 | amro | death knights outheal priests |
| 19:54.04 | crazedfred | our face outheals death knights |
| 19:54.06 | crazedfred | *your |
| 19:54.30 | amro | airtronix when did you change nicks? |
| 19:57.26 | Pneumatus | resto shamans are the worst atm though |
| 19:57.30 | Pneumatus | their only real use is mana tide |
| 20:04.49 | Cide | holy priests are the best |
| 20:05.01 | Cide | and the most fun too! |
| 20:05.25 | wereHamster | do textures need to have pot dimensions? |
| 20:06.31 | Pneumatus | smite disc is the most fun |
| 20:06.32 | Pneumatus | obv |
| 20:12.33 | Cide | not even close |
| 20:15.14 | nebula169 | resto shaman, holy priest, holy paladin is a pretty beast setup for 10s |
| 20:15.35 | Fisker | Cide |
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| 20:24.27 | Cide | Fisker |
| 20:25.38 | Fisker | fictive |
| 20:25.41 | Fisker | though Cide |
| 20:25.46 | Amarande | bah. they advertise this thing on steam as the "Square and Eidos Complete Pack" |
| 20:25.53 | Amarande | and it doesn't even include classic FF7 and FF8 for PC? |
| 20:25.56 | Amarande | wtf, guys. |
| 20:26.09 | Fisker | wtfffffffffff |
| 20:26.32 | Cide | maybe it's Square && Eidos instead of Square || Eidos? |
| 20:26.34 | Cide | think about it |
| 20:27.33 | Amarande | also, oh dear, they're putting PopCap games on sale, so much for steam's future sales |
| 20:28.03 | Amarande | "hi, we'd like to get you all addicted to Bejeweled." *months later* "um, Boss, why aren't they buying any more games?" |
| 20:28.13 | Cide | yeah, totally |
| 20:28.19 | Cide | can you stop being non-sensical and bitchy |
| 20:28.53 | Amarande | Cide: Dude, Bejeweled has addiction power that makes WoW seem like an easy habit to kick by comparison. :) |
| 20:29.15 | Amarande | I remember during the last few months of BC when the Bejeweled addon was getting popular. It was difficult sometimes to get guildies to actually play WoW. |
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| 20:32.29 | Cide | no it doesn't |
| 20:32.40 | Cide | it's a popular game like many others |
| 20:33.02 | Cide | I bet wow has more played hours than bejeweled despite bejeweled having many more players |
| 20:33.28 | foxlit | WoW devours souls, though. |
| 20:33.34 | foxlit | I'm sure there's a PA comic about that. |
| 20:35.08 | crazedfred | indeed there is! http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/6/16/ |
| 20:37.33 | crazedfred | Actually: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/12/17/ |
| 20:37.54 | wereHamster | any idea why wow would display a one px wide white border around textures? |
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| 20:50.52 | zenzelezz | so, my kitchen stove's manual states clearly that it "should never be used for heating up the room". I wonder who made it necessary to put that in there |
| 20:51.16 | Amarande | foxlit: most of us lost ours to warlocks in PvP, probably |
| 20:51.44 | Amarande | zenzelezz: "Planter's Peanuts. WARNING CONTAINS PEANUTS" |
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| 20:57.57 | Fisker | awesome kill |
| 20:59.36 | wereHamster | which options do I need to use when saving a tga file with gimp? |
| 21:00.15 | zenzelezz | I never touched any settings, just used the default |
| 21:00.51 | Robsato | Hmm, I got a disconnect when I entered Sethekk Halls and now I keep disconnecting when trying to get on that character. Any ideas on how to get back on that character? |
| 21:01.09 | wereHamster | I always see a white border around the texture |
| 21:01.17 | zenzelezz | did you try logging a different character first Robsato? |
| 21:01.41 | Robsato | Nope, going to try that |
| 21:01.52 | Amarande | instance server issues? |
| 21:02.00 | zenzelezz | wereHamster: are you sure your texture doesn't actually have a tiny white border that you just didn't notice? Or that it's the right size and stuff? |
| 21:02.21 | Amarande | also, I am bloody glad that my main on the server that I don't do serious raiding on is a mage, and that my first alt will likely be a rogue. |
| 21:02.30 | Amarande | I may actually be able to stay in LFD groups the whole way through on them! |
| 21:04.59 | wereHamster | zenzelezz: yep, it's a transparent backgorund and black foreground |
| 21:05.39 | zenzelezz | wereHamster: is the transparency working as it should? |
| 21:06.07 | Robsato | Logging another character did not work. Is there a place I can see if instance servers have issues (doesn't seem to be mentioned on the normal serverstatus page)? |
| 21:06.18 | wereHamster | ze yes, that's working correctly |
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| 21:07.20 | zenzelezz | wereHamster: then I'm out of ideas |
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| 21:17.11 | foxlit | gr, I don't get it |
| 21:19.14 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 21:19.46 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/144485 |
| 21:20.08 | foxlit | I'm messing with animating an alpha transition, but it seems to jump at the end :/ |
| 21:21.08 | foxlit | The 0.90 seems particularly unexplainable |
| 21:21.36 | mikma | ~fisk |
| 21:21.37 | purl | FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFIIIIISSSSKKK... |
| 21:21.48 | foxlit | [and then again, SetVertexColor] |
| 21:22.06 | bleeter_ | 'meh, deathwing's not that bad. after all, he did kill off the hippie district of stormwind' |
| 21:22.11 | Fisker | mikma |
| 21:22.40 | mikma | ~fff |
| 21:22.53 | mikma | ~kkkk |
| 21:23.25 | mikma | purl: kkkk is ok version of kkk |
| 21:23.25 | purl | mikma: okay |
| 21:24.17 | Amarande | you know, I took so much time off from playing Alliance and then only came back when 4.0.3a hit ... so I'm kinda foggy as to exactly what changed in SW apart from those two towers where the stone at the top is melted and never seems to cool |
| 21:24.24 | Amarande | you'd think the stone would have cooled by now. :S |
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| 21:24.53 | Computerpunk | Amarande, no man, Deathwing gets back there when the servers are down. |
| 21:25.54 | Amarande | also, if there's big flames all over the place in a zone as you're flying past on the gryphon, but the sky looks normal, that means Deathwing was just there, right? |
| 21:26.22 | Computerpunk | Gryphon? |
| 21:26.23 | Computerpunk | That's gay. |
| 21:26.23 | Computerpunk | :D |
| 21:26.39 | mikma | whats wrong with gryphons? |
| 21:26.42 | Amarande | the wind rider masters aren't too friendly to Variandra, Computerpunk. :) |
| 21:27.05 | Computerpunk | Then get a Headless Horseman mount. :D |
| 21:27.33 | Computerpunk | Or a Red Proto-Drake. |
| 21:27.37 | Computerpunk | Or a Rusted one. |
| 21:27.50 | Computerpunk | Ironbound?:D |
| 21:27.55 | foxlit | oh wow, this is horrible. |
| 21:28.04 | Computerpunk | ? What is? |
| 21:28.07 | foxlit | CastSpellByName behavior changes depending on whether you have the spell on your action bars. |
| 21:28.13 | Computerpunk | What? |
| 21:28.24 | Computerpunk | :/ |
| 21:28.31 | Computerpunk | Why do you have a Spellbook then? |
| 21:28.54 | Computerpunk | throws Fisker at Ghostcrawler. |
| 21:28.56 | Computerpunk | TAKE THAT. |
| 21:29.18 | foxlit | So that things can break in hilarious ways |
| 21:29.46 | Computerpunk | throws the other Fisker at Ghostcrawler. |
| 21:33.57 | Fisker | Computerpunk |
| 21:34.29 | Computerpunk | foxlit |
| 21:34.45 | foxlit | ~whalenuke Computerpunk |
| 21:34.45 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Computerpunk with his mind powers. |
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| 21:36.29 | Fisker | Computerpunk |
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| 21:37.15 | Jamash | Fiskerpunk |
| 21:37.18 | Computerpunk | gives up. |
| 21:37.20 | Computerpunk | WAT. |
| 21:37.21 | Computerpunk | NO. |
| 21:37.29 | Computerpunk | We didn't give birth to a child yet. |
| 21:37.34 | Computerpunk | shoo Jamash. |
| 21:37.35 | Computerpunk | shoo. |
| 21:38.05 | Jamash | Computerfisker |
| 21:38.36 | Computerpunk | hides under Jamash' bed. |
| 21:39.05 | Computerpunk | grins. |
| 21:39.25 | Jamash | uses troll spray |
| 21:40.29 | Computerpunk | No effect. |
| 21:40.39 | Computerpunk | continues eating his pasta. |
| 21:41.04 | Fisker | Computerpunk  |
| 21:41.08 | Jamash | uses pepper spray on Computerpunk's pasta |
| 21:41.30 | Computerpunk | pours chili sauce over the pasta. |
| 21:41.36 | Fisker | Computerpunk  |
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| 21:41.44 | Computerpunk | Computerpunk |
| 21:41.46 | Computerpunk | I win. |
| 21:42.15 | Fisker | Computerpunk   |
| 21:42.53 | foxlit | "Note that while changes here will affect all registered elements, ButtonFacade only saves changes made at this level" |
| 21:42.58 | foxlit | What the hell does that even mean? |
| 21:44.06 | Computerpunk | LOL |
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| 21:44.53 | foxlit | Also, if individual addons are responsible for storing ButtonFacade settings, what do ButtonFacade's own profiles affect? |
| 21:46.28 | nevcairiel | global settings |
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| 21:46.40 | nevcairiel | but yeah, its useless |
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| 21:47.35 | zenzelezz | sounds like the "facade"-part of the name has a deep meaning |
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| 21:48.04 | foxlit | nevcairiel: hm, you're right. It changes its displayed value in the global dropdown |
| 21:48.05 | nevcairiel | Its still way better then that mess that was cyCircled, it has just been going down since the original author left |
| 21:48.07 | foxlit | WHICH DOES NOTHING :/ |
| 21:48.09 | Computerpunk | so like |
| 21:48.12 | Computerpunk | everyone should roll hunter |
| 21:48.15 | Computerpunk | and taunt boss and kite it. |
| 21:48.25 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 21:48.25 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 21:48.29 | foxlit | Diminishing returns on Taunt. |
| 21:48.46 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 21:48.47 | foxlit | Also, try doing that in AQ20 |
| 21:48.55 | Computerpunk | aren't bosses immune there? |
| 21:49.13 | foxlit | No, but that's about the time they discovered the "Oh hey, you aren't in melee range --- TELEPORT!" mechanic. |
| 21:49.40 | foxlit | Soloing Kurinaxx is especially amusing -- he'll port you back if you take as much as a step backwards. |
| 21:49.59 | Computerpunk | gg hunters. |
| 21:51.15 | Kraps | FUCK YEAH http://www.wog.ch/index.cfm/details/product/22711-Red-Dead-Redemption |
| 21:51.17 | Computerpunk | brb, leveling pally. |
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| 21:53.39 | Computerpunk | WoW, the game where physics mean nothing. |
| 21:53.45 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:53.46 | Computerpunk | WoW, the game where 49 + 1 = 51. |
| 21:53.49 | A-KO | physics in WoW would be awesome |
| 21:54.13 | krka_ | what? 49+1=51? |
| 21:54.21 | zenzelezz | I'd say the vast majority of games only have physics for a limited number of things |
| 21:54.42 | Computerpunk | krka_, think Leading the Cavalry. |
| 21:55.03 | nevcairiel | just because the achievements gets you a new mount |
| 21:55.06 | nevcairiel | how is that surprising |
| 21:55.10 | Computerpunk | Having 50 mounts means you'll have 51. |
| 21:55.22 | krka_ | what nevcairiel said |
| 21:58.29 | Iriel | Only if you open your mail |
| 21:59.25 | zenzelezz | if the black war bear (or whatever the name is) wasn't unique, people would've had many hundreds of mounts |
| 21:59.41 | zenzelezz | I remember how much fun it was listening to my guildies... "I keep getting this damn mail!" |
| 22:22.48 | Fisker | slaps Computerpunk around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:25.51 | Computerpunk | slaps a late trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 22:25.53 | Computerpunk | large* |
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| 22:30.18 | Silversage | Heyo. |
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| 22:34.49 | Silversage | Anyone found that colored sockets are significantly more valuable to one class than another? I'm feeling an approximation coming on... |
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| 22:38.08 | olafski | I'd say so yeah.. :P |
| 22:38.28 | olafski | used to be red for dps and blue for tanks in 3.x iirc |
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| 22:40.04 | Silversage | olafski: Hmm. Is that assuming you always match the sockets' colors? I've rarely found the socket bonus a deciding factor as to which gem to put in. |
| 22:40.49 | industrial | Silversage: I find that in this expo the socket color bonuses are too big to ignore |
| 22:40.55 | industrial | 1/4 a gem |
| 22:41.04 | Silversage | Damn. |
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| 22:44.03 | Silversage | industrial: Wait. They were about 1/4 a gem in LK, weren't they? |
| 22:44.05 | olafski | I generally try to match them |
| 22:44.36 | olafski | in wotlk I just gemmed stamina =( |
| 22:45.13 | Computerpunk | wat. |
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| 22:49.38 | Computerpunk | as a hunter: http://www.wowhead.com/item=65805 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=64761? |
| 22:49.44 | Computerpunk | Just a tip, first one won't ever proc. |
| 22:51.33 | Gnarfoz | no really |
| 22:51.56 | Computerpunk | pl0x, halp. <3 |
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| 22:54.31 | Adys | Computerpunk: obviously the second one |
| 22:54.56 | Adys | er |
| 22:55.08 | Adys | i mean obviously the first one |
| 22:55.08 | industrial | Computerpunk: I has a http://www.wowhead.com/item=56427 but I'm enhancement shammy |
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| 22:55.41 | Adys | Computerpunk: since the first one only has agi on it for you, what you should look at is the second one's procrate and uptime |
| 22:55.49 | Adys | so unless it has over 40% uptime its not worth it |
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| 22:57.37 | Adys | Shirik: shiping |
| 22:57.58 | Adys | (or pingrik?) |
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| 23:05.39 | Computerpunk | 15% proc chance. 1 min icd, 20 sec duration. |
| 23:06.06 | Shirik | Adys? |
| 23:06.21 | Adys | Computerpunk: icd triggered on use or after end? |
| 23:06.24 | Adys | Shirik: i forgot |
| 23:06.39 | Adys | Shirik: meanwhile help me out, whats table.append in lua |
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| 23:10.31 | Computerpunk | Adys, got no idea lemme check |
| 23:11.50 | Computerpunk | Any proc addon? |
| 23:14.00 | Adys | no sorry |
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| 23:14.56 | Computerpunk | 1 min from use. |
| 23:16.27 | Computerpunk | let's say, 36-37% uptime. |
| 23:16.33 | Computerpunk | It seems to proc 5 seconds before every minute switch. |
| 23:17.09 | Computerpunk | The agi gained is higher. |
| 23:17.13 | Computerpunk | lua> 234/912 |
| 23:17.17 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: 0.25657894736842 |
| 23:17.23 | Computerpunk | yeah, worth it to keep that trinket. |
| 23:17.24 | Computerpunk | Ty adys. |
| 23:18.15 | Kraps | http://www.badassdigest.com/2010/12/24/moon-director-duncan-jones-thinks-world-of-warcraft-could-be-the-great-video-game-movie |
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| 23:21.59 | bleeter | wow, blizz still ain't nerfed archeology XP lol |
| 23:24.07 | industrial | more like |
| 23:24.12 | industrial | book movie |
| 23:24.14 | industrial | amirite? |
| 23:24.33 | industrial | meh that'd be a cartoon movie :p |
| 23:24.43 | industrial | they should film The Riftwar Saga |
| 23:25.17 | industrial | or better, full reenactment in a series :p |
| 23:25.24 | industrial | nn |
| 23:26.45 | olafski | why would they nerf it bleeter? |
| 23:27.59 | olafski | computerpunk: not to mention that icd keeps ticking if you're not in combat, so the actual in-combat uptime is even higher |
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| 23:33.16 | Kraps | olafski: what addons keep track of icd's? |
| 23:34.11 | olafski | no clue |
| 23:35.28 | Computerpunk | Kraps, nada. |
| 23:35.33 | Computerpunk | You need to check it human-wise. |
| 23:35.34 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 23:36.01 | olafski | no there are actually addons that do it I think :P |
| 23:36.10 | olafski | forte perhaps |
| 23:36.16 | olafski | or sexycooldown |
| 23:36.29 | Kraps | on EJ theres always talk of using an addon to track Raptue's icd |
| 23:37.15 | olafski | you could always ask which addon they mean =) |
| 23:37.16 | Taroven | EventHorizon can track ICDs if they're aura-based. *shrug* |
| 23:37.19 | olafski | (haha, ask something on EJ :P) |
| 23:37.58 | Antiarc | SexyCooldown uses LibInternalCooldown to track ICDs |
| 23:38.04 | Antiarc | But it needs to be updated with Cata ICDs |
| 23:38.18 | A-KO | wtf is seriously wrong with blizzard? lol |
| 23:38.41 | A-KO | big cauldron of battle requires 12 flasks, and you only get 17 charges out of it--so to flask the whole 25 man raid, you end up wasting flasks |
| 23:38.44 | A-KO | if you use the cauldron |
| 23:39.04 | foxlit | "wtf is seriously wrong with blizzard?" << nothing. |
| 23:39.05 | A-KO | why not just make it buff all 25.... |
| 23:39.12 | foxlit | They did. |
| 23:39.18 | A-KO | did they? |
| 23:39.23 | A-KO | is it a hotfix or something? |
| 23:39.26 | foxlit | No. |
| 23:39.39 | olafski | with a certain guild level you get more charges iirc |
| 23:39.51 | olafski | level 10 |
| 23:39.52 | foxlit | ^ |
| 23:39.53 | olafski | 50% more |
| 23:39.55 | foxlit | No. |
| 23:40.07 | A-KO | level 20 |
| 23:40.07 | olafski | no wait that's duration |
| 23:40.07 | foxlit | That's 50% increased duration, but you were doing great until then :) |
| 23:40.08 | A-KO | 50% more |
| 23:40.25 | A-KO | so you get all 25 with level 20, okay |
| 23:40.27 | A-KO | that's fine then |
| 23:40.41 | bleeter | olafski: I get twice as much XP from digging up a bit of fossil as I do for many 'go see so-and-so' quests. easy levelling to 85. then go back and quest for gold >< |
| 23:40.47 | A-KO | on 1.5 hour flasks |
| 23:40.47 | A-KO | nice |
| 23:40.50 | bleeter | olafski: at least twice |
| 23:43.03 | olafski | bleeter: "go see so and so" quests give about the same xp as killing one mob.. not that much :P |
| 23:43.21 | olafski | leveling is easy whichever way you do it, I'd say using archaeology is not faster than questing anyway :) |
| 23:43.35 | olafski | but yeah I wish I did what you said.. only leveled to 84 with archaeology =( |
| 23:44.52 | bleeter | olafski: the 'fun' is in the post-85 quest/gold conversions ;) |
| 23:45.23 | bleeter | olafski: I just think it's a little mad that PRIMARY professions don't give anywhere near as much XP per node, not even close |
| 23:45.33 | bleeter | even though they are a little easier to find... still. |
| 23:45.45 | olafski | those conversions aren't that great imo |
| 23:45.48 | olafski | and gold is easy to make anyway |
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| 23:46.03 | bleeter | I really don't think Blizz intended people to level from 80-84 without doing a single quest or BG or anything |
| 23:46.23 | crazedfred | Actually I was wondering about that |
| 23:46.26 | olafski | I do.. the xp really isn't that great.. I forgot how much it was though |
| 23:46.40 | crazedfred | After the cata changes, is it better to dungeon 60-70 or quest? That's where my alt is ATM |
| 23:47.53 | olafski | combine? :P |
| 23:48.13 | crazedfred | olafski: use your crowbar |
| 23:48.17 | olafski | with some luck I imagine it's about 1-2 dig spots per minute bleeter.. and iirc 3-5 digs for the XP you get for one quest |
| 23:49.03 | bleeter | precisely, 3-4 digs = about 20 'go see so and so' quests. |
| 23:49.03 | olafski | adventure game reference I didn't get, I assume crazedfred :P |
| 23:49.10 | bleeter | or 30 |
| 23:49.14 | bleeter | just mad |
| 23:49.14 | crazedfred | olafski: sorry, bad HL2 joke |
| 23:49.16 | olafski | bleeter: who cares though, there aren't that many go see so and so quests :P |
| 23:49.31 | bleeter | I really don't think Blizz intended people to level from 80-84 without doing a single quest or BG or anything |
| 23:49.38 | olafski | bleeter: generally a quest will be "kill 20 X" or "find 20 X" |
| 23:49.43 | olafski | yes you already said that |
| 23:49.44 | bleeter | orly? |
| 23:49.48 | olafski | and I do think they intend that :P |
| 23:49.52 | bleeter | I didn't know that about quests, 'kill 20 x' |
| 23:49.55 | bleeter | thanks for telling me |
| 23:50.15 | olafski | questing will still go faster |
| 23:50.18 | bleeter | olafski: yeah, I repeated it as you seemed to be ignoring what I said earlier |
| 23:50.25 | olafski | no, I responded to it already |
| 23:50.49 | bleeter | by comparing what I said to something uncomparable, sure, but it doesn't make it a valid response |
| 23:50.59 | bleeter | hence, my presumption you ignored it |
| 23:51.05 | bleeter | shrugs |
| 23:51.11 | olafski | my immediate line after you first said it was the response |
| 23:51.17 | olafski | there's no comparison in it |
| 23:51.22 | olafski | but fine, be that way about it :) |
| 23:52.15 | bleeter | dude, you're the one trying to tell me there are quests that have shit like 'kill 20 X' in it |
| 23:52.29 | bleeter | i mean, i'm really appreciative of you telling me the new innovative Cata mechanics |
| 23:52.36 | bleeter | but do you have to SPOILER it all? |
| 23:52.53 | bleeter | so if yer gunna get all snarky at attitude, meh |
| 23:53.54 | olafski | hahaha seriously dude.. you're the one comparing archaeology nodes, which are limitless, to quests of the go-to type of which there are a handful |
| 23:54.53 | olafski | if it's such awesome xp gain I'd say use it and then get those heaps of gold by questing at 85 =) |
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| 23:55.24 | Xyphoid | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/270.html panel 7 is so glorious |
| 23:55.44 | Jamash | archeology uses rest xp, so you might be overestimating the amount you can get |
| 23:56.06 | olafski | that too, but then so does mining/herbing |
| 23:56.24 | olafski | I think he tried to compare it to that too ;) |
| 23:56.45 | bleeter | I did, merely because as a secondary profession I find it odd that it gives far less than a primary |
| 23:57.27 | Jamash | huh? |
| 23:57.45 | olafski | try again when you have a comparison on how many digs you can do per hour compared to how many mining/herb nodes you find in an hour |
| 23:58.05 | Jamash | why shouldn't a secondary give less than a primary? |
| 23:58.09 | Torhal | olafski: First version. |
| 23:58.31 | olafski | torhal: :D |
| 23:58.37 | Jamash | anyway as an experiment I tried getting an entire level with archeology |
| 23:58.42 | Jamash | I got to 40% and got bored |
| 23:58.43 | olafski | jamash: he meant the other way around btw ;p |
| 23:58.51 | olafski | I did 80-84 with arch |
| 23:58.55 | olafski | well and one BRC run |
| 23:59.01 | Jamash | you have more patience than me then |
| 23:59.35 | olafski | probably =) |
| 23:59.40 | olafski | 190 troll artefacts, no sword |
| 23:59.44 | Jamash | ouch |
| 23:59.48 | olafski | shaman in my guild got it just now |
| 23:59.58 | Jamash | doy |
