| 00:00.01 | drag0nius | in case u do mistake xD |
| 00:00.01 | Wobin | gah |
| 00:00.11 | Wobin | why doesn't commenting ever work on FF with curse? |
| 00:00.32 | olafski | yer that's quite annoying :P |
| 00:02.59 | drag0nius | hmm |
| 00:03.10 | drag0nius | is default Win7 English keyboard layout QWERTZ? |
| 00:03.18 | Amarande | it's called "curse" for a reason. :S |
| 00:03.43 | drag0nius | nvm i can check in options |
| 00:03.43 | drag0nius | xD |
| 00:03.49 | Amarande | j - A cursed World of Warcraft download site. |
| 00:03.53 | Wobin | drag0nius: yes |
| 00:03.56 | Amarande | What do you want to drop? j |
| 00:03.58 | Wobin | er |
| 00:03.59 | Wobin | QWERTY |
| 00:04.00 | Amarande | You can't. It seems to be cursed. |
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| 00:13.20 | Wobin | hm |
| 00:13.25 | Wobin | how customisable is the flightmap |
| 00:13.30 | Wobin | can we add our own icons to it? |
| 00:17.45 | Wobin | Shirik2: Why congrats? (re topic) |
| 00:18.03 | Wobin | And happy birthday Mr Torhal |
| 00:19.04 | drag0nius | in current situation wish i had Razer Naga instead just Lachesis |
| 00:19.10 | drag0nius | so i could bind everything xD |
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| 00:22.24 | drag0nius | i have just 2 buttons each side |
| 00:22.25 | drag0nius | need 3 ;( |
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| 00:42.20 | Wobin | The perils of testing the flight map |
| 00:42.26 | Wobin | is that if you misclick on the map |
| 00:42.35 | Wobin | you get to go on a scenic trip >< |
| 00:44.06 | foxlit | relog to cut your scenic trip short. |
| 00:45.12 | Wobin | does that still work? |
| 00:45.18 | Wobin | but then I have to log in and out |
| 00:45.30 | olafski | it does still work |
| 00:46.48 | Wobin | relog or reload? |
| 00:47.14 | olafski | relog I think |
| 00:47.28 | olafski | feel free to try reload though and let me know, that'd be nice if it works ;) |
| 00:50.11 | Kraps | terrible terrible damage |
| 00:50.20 | Wobin | thank god for Where's My Cow |
| 00:51.29 | Kraps | "This is a book about reading a book, which turns into a different book. But it all ends happily! " |
| 00:51.43 | Wobin | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e846c5dedcacd37db72668694e4d4964.jpg |
| 00:52.02 | Wobin | and it still works!! |
| 00:52.13 | Wobin | (which is the most amazing thing of all) |
| 00:54.40 | olafski | what does it do oO |
| 00:55.17 | olafski | looks like framestack |
| 00:56.58 | Wobin | pretty much |
| 00:56.59 | Wobin | but |
| 00:57.29 | Wobin | you can drill down into each frame |
| 00:57.33 | Wobin | and get extra info |
| 00:58.39 | Wobin | like http://images.gammatester.com/pics/de318bd6f0a5899e9efa583d25b7e79d.jpg |
| 00:58.57 | olafski | ah ok :) |
| 00:59.08 | Wobin | you can also inject it into an addon |
| 00:59.18 | Wobin | so you can have custom information shown when you mouseover |
| 00:59.30 | Wobin | I made it to try and wrap my brain around secureframes |
| 00:59.41 | Wobin | which had different states depending on whatever was happening |
| 00:59.49 | Wobin | so I needed a way to track those states realtime |
| 01:00.18 | Wobin | not that I ended up actually understanding secure frames =P |
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| 01:14.08 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:14.12 | Wobin | link to the UI extractor? |
| 01:14.18 | Wobin | ~wowxml |
| 01:14.18 | purl | hmm... wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
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| 01:23.05 | mikma | ~framexml |
| 01:23.05 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 01:38.27 | wereHamster | what do people use these days to manage addons? curse client? Does it work on macosx? |
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| 01:40.54 | cbreak | wereHamster: manually |
| 01:50.33 | olafski | I use curse client +) no clue if it works on osx |
| 01:50.44 | bluspacecow | it does. |
| 01:50.51 | wereHamster | is it .net? |
| 01:50.55 | bluspacecow | i r looking at it right now. woring in os x |
| 01:51.10 | bluspacecow | shall i make it sit up and do silly dog tricks for you ? |
| 01:56.05 | Thrae | Bleh more Solaris linkage problems |
| 01:56.36 | industrial | wereHamster: I use zip files and either a shell or a GUI directory explorer |
| 01:57.16 | industrial | It's the most awesome system ever, you have total control and when something already works you don't have the artificial self-implanted need to update it for the sake of updating it! |
| 01:57.31 | industrial | and then, when you do want to update it, there's RSS feeds for that! |
| 01:58.15 | bluspacecow | totally agree industrial |
| 01:58.21 | bluspacecow | if its not broken why fix it ? |
| 01:58.34 | industrial | this is what I've said years back but people wouldnt listen |
| 01:58.52 | industrial | on wowace :p |
| 01:59.09 | industrial | so I stopped doing that .. and stopped caring .. I cared back then .. |
| 01:59.27 | Thrae | wereHamster: MMOUI Minion is Java, so that should work on Mac OSX. |
| 02:00.33 | bluspacecow | that one also works ... i've had it working before on my mac |
| 02:01.11 | Thrae | I use 'em both, but try not to update unless there's a feature missing or something's broken. |
| 02:01.27 | Thrae | Or sometimes I just update so I can bug the author. |
| 02:01.49 | wereHamster | bleh, java :( |
| 02:02.35 | mckenziemc | industrial: use more addons |
| 02:04.06 | industrial | 166 items in my addons folder, 12 my own |
| 02:04.19 | Arrowmaster | wereHamster: there are two curse clients, a .NET windows version and a native OSX version |
| 02:04.49 | wereHamster | ah, I didn't know about the native one |
| 02:04.52 | mckenziemc | 546 :o |
| 02:05.39 | industrial | thats crazy, I bet half of them overlap in functionality |
| 02:06.12 | mckenziemc | probably |
| 02:11.42 | industrial | refer to my ealier statement about self-implanted need to update :p |
| 02:12.36 | bluspacecow | .... exactly ! |
| 02:15.03 | sylvanaar | updating is good, except when its bad |
| 02:15.17 | sylvanaar | ^ this is true |
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| 02:28.15 | cogwheel | Coming home from christmas away to 3 cop cars outside our house and cops standing around in our yard was a bit disconcerting... |
| 02:29.04 | cogwheel | but at least they're out there catching drunk drivers |
| 02:29.34 | cbreak | and not the guy who killed the other guy who is also in your yard? |
| 02:29.52 | TMc51 | Or the guy who stole yo tv set? |
| 02:30.20 | cogwheel | nah we have an alarm. we would've been called :P |
| 02:30.32 | TMc51 | t'was an inside job. |
| 02:30.40 | cogwheel | by... our cats? |
| 02:30.47 | TMc51 | Yes. |
| 02:30.54 | TMc51 | Cats are evil. Very evil. |
| 02:31.00 | TMc51 | I wouldn't put it past them. |
| 02:31.07 | bluspacecow | hai cog |
| 02:31.14 | cogwheel | oh certainly wouldn't put the evilness past them... |
| 02:33.00 | airtonix | my cats explode |
| 02:33.57 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 02:34.02 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:34.14 | Wobin | this is more complex than originally considered =P |
| 02:34.25 | Shirik2 | Anyone ever had a problem with addons not being able to pick up the middle mouse button? |
| 02:34.25 | airtonix | yes |
| 02:34.27 | Dagmar | You ever seen a maine coon and longhair mix *sneeze*? |
| 02:34.29 | Shirik2 | If so, how do you fix it? |
| 02:34.33 | Wobin | how easy is it to show a POI overlay on another location? |
| 02:34.33 | airtonix | with more cats |
| 02:34.42 | TMc51 | airtonix: Mine explode, too. But that's because my "cats" are actually just creepers with cat ears attached. |
| 02:34.54 | amro | Shirik2! |
| 02:34.58 | airtonix | no |
| 02:35.05 | airtonix | $hirik |
| 02:35.16 | Wobin | Ke$hirik? |
| 02:35.21 | Dagmar | Shirik: Maybe check the Windows control panel for it to make sure Windows didn't decide to make the button behave lik print screen or something |
| 02:35.26 | amro | hush, no php in here |
| 02:35.45 | Wobin | Shirik2: not middle, but certainly btn5 etc |
| 02:35.46 | amro | what happens if you throw from a function with a throw() specification? |
| 02:35.58 | Wobin | mostly it needed the drivers for that mouse |
| 02:38.10 | airtonix | throws amro from a function |
| 02:38.20 | airtonix | hoho |
| 02:38.25 | airtonix | funny little man |
| 02:38.47 | amro | does it have a throw() spec? |
| 02:39.47 | mckenziemc | amro: it flies through RAM till it hits something important |
| 02:40.05 | amro | oh no! it might reach the datacores |
| 02:40.30 | industrial | it might work if you reverse the polarity! |
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| 02:40.45 | airtonix | moar jiggawatts! |
| 02:40.51 | airtonix | NEED MOAR! |
| 02:40.58 | amro | any of the c++ users around? cbreak cogwheel maybe? |
| 02:40.58 | bluspacecow | MOAR JIGGLY TITTS! |
| 02:41.04 | mckenziemc | lua> catch(industrial) |
| 02:41.05 | cbreak | hmm? |
| 02:41.05 | cogwheel | or Shirik2 perhaps? |
| 02:41.05 | lua_bot | mckenziemc: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'catch' (a nil value) |
| 02:41.07 | industrial | see I can't read that withou.. bluspacecow wins. |
| 02:41.12 | Shirik2 | ? |
| 02:41.16 | Shirik2 | amro, not cool |
| 02:41.26 | amro | what did I do? |
| 02:41.32 | cogwheel | not include him |
| 02:41.36 | airtonix | you farted |
| 02:41.36 | industrial | ha. |
| 02:41.38 | amro | I asked him first of all |
| 02:41.41 | Shirik2 | no? |
| 02:41.41 | amro | =( |
| 02:41.43 | Shirik2 | where |
| 02:41.47 | airtonix | hoho |
| 02:41.49 | amro | why do you think i pinged you? |
| 02:41.53 | cogwheel | oh |
| 02:41.56 | amro | now I admit pinging you for no reason is fun, but I don't do it |
| 02:41.57 | cogwheel | ~fail cogwheel |
| 02:41.57 | purl | You suck at everything in life, cogwheel. I hate you because you fail. |
| 02:41.58 | industrial | Shirik likes to code QBASIC |
| 02:42.01 | industrial | runs and hides |
| 02:42.01 | Shirik2 | oh |
| 02:42.13 | airtonix | BURN HIM |
| 02:42.19 | airtonix | KILL IT WITH FIRE |
| 02:42.30 | industrial | np: Star Trek DS 9 S02E19 |
| 02:42.32 | industrial | \o/ |
| 02:42.35 | airtonix | ... |
| 02:42.44 | Shirik2 | evil industrial |
| 02:42.48 | Shirik2 | ds9 is |
| 02:42.50 | Shirik2 | well |
| 02:43.00 | bluspacecow | poop ? |
| 02:43.02 | amro | here's the question btw [03:35] <amro> what happens if you throw from a function with a throw() specification? |
| 02:43.04 | airtonix | at least better that you face |
| 02:43.17 | industrial | I never bothered... I kinda like it. Babylon 5 is up after that |
| 02:43.19 | cogwheel | amro: first find a compiler that pays attention to throw... |
| 02:43.24 | industrial | but I dunno about b5 :( |
| 02:43.30 | airtonix | murders industrial |
| 02:43.41 | clever | industrial: that reminds me, i wrote a 3d renderer in QBASIC a few years back |
| 02:43.48 | Shirik2 | industrial: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/ |
| 02:43.49 | amro | cogwheel: gcc does, it even respects throw(blah) |
| 02:44.01 | airtonix | clever, you probably think you're good now. |
| 02:44.02 | Shirik2 | amro: std::bad_exception |
| 02:44.04 | cbreak | I don't use exceptions a lot |
| 02:44.07 | Shirik2 | followed by a terminate() |
| 02:44.17 | Shirik2 | because std::bad_exception is not in the exception specification |
| 02:44.22 | Shirik2 | so long story short, a program termination |
| 02:44.24 | clever | airtonix: it ran on a 50mhz laptop and took over 10 seconds to render a frame |
| 02:44.39 | airtonix | i bet you use it on your resume |
| 02:44.50 | industrial | Shirik2: nooooo |
| 02:44.53 | airtonix | "hoho i'm so awesome i use qbas..." |
| 02:44.57 | clever | dont have a job:P |
| 02:44.58 | airtonix | denied |
| 02:45.05 | amro | Shirik2: thanks |
| 02:45.23 | industrial | Shirik2: LOL hah :') great comic |
| 02:46.02 | industrial | Shirik2, airtonix; I've seen all of TNG and Voyager and all the movies ofcourse. Can't bother with the originals because too oldsauce. |
| 02:46.22 | airtonix | <cliche comment about your mum and your face> |
| 02:46.34 | airtonix | ~dice |
| 02:46.44 | airtonix | stabs purl |
| 02:46.56 | industrial | stabs airtonix with some star wars |
| 02:47.01 | industrial | more of a stargate guy? |
| 02:47.04 | industrial | hides |
| 02:47.08 | airtonix | i lol'd |
| 02:47.34 | amro | stargate was awesome until stargate universe |
| 02:47.38 | Shirik2 | amro: btw, <insert rant about why never to use exception specifications here> |
| 02:47.44 | industrial | (both of which I've seen and loved aswell ofcourse) |
| 02:47.48 | industrial | oh, cept universe. |
| 02:47.53 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.06 | airtonix | begging for food |
| 02:48.08 | amro | Shirik2: I know, I was just thinking about the pros and cons of the nothrow spec |
| 02:48.09 | industrial | and the orei crap in sg1 season 10+ |
| 02:48.16 | airtonix | i'll accomodate you bluspacecow |
| 02:49.10 | airtonix | industrial, longstory short, big galaxy, small brain. blah blah blah, always slaves. |
| 02:49.36 | industrial | also I hate "them" for killing enterprise :( |
| 02:49.42 | industrial | I liked the show very much |
| 02:50.06 | amro | I bet fox was involved somehow |
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| 02:52.18 | karl_w_w | anybody with a pet here like to /dump HasPetSpells() for me? |
| 02:52.38 | industrial | pets Fisker |
| 02:52.39 | karl_w_w | especially interested in shadowfiend |
| 02:53.11 | industrial | sorry, Fisker is a Monkey |
| 02:53.25 | industrial | watch out for his [Bad Manner] |
| 02:53.31 | karl_w_w | well give him a banana then :P |
| 02:54.48 | karl_w_w | interesting that wowprogramming is less up to date than wowpedia on something |
| 02:54.54 | karl_w_w | !api haspetspells |
| 02:54.55 | lua_bot | HasPetSpells: Returns whether the player's current pet has a spellbook (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/HasPetSpells) |
| 02:55.55 | industrial | jnwhiteh: when you get back, ^ |
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| 02:56.35 | amro | that or http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/HasPetSpells.edit |
| 03:03.36 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone aware of a USB drive that I can buy (2GB+ of storage) that has a hardware write protect switch? |
| 03:03.58 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: That will take some digging. Not many of those things come with a switch anymore. |
| 03:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Aye, which is why I ask |
| 03:04.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The idea is simple, though |
| 03:05.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Load it up with diagnostic tools and plug it into infected hosts |
| 03:08.09 | airtonix | and then ? |
| 03:08.10 | Dagmar | You might have better luck finding a U3-capable drive then |
| 03:08.26 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 03:08.30 | Dagmar | At least the u3 end of it is read-only |
| 03:08.37 | ScytheBlade1 | airtonix: fix it? |
| 03:08.39 | bluspacecow | anyone running os x 10.6.5 to play wow ? |
| 03:08.54 | bluspacecow | wanna run this command and report the output |
| 03:08.55 | bluspacecow | codesign -vvv /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/World\ of\ Warcraft.app/ |
| 03:11.06 | airtonix | bluspacecow, i have smoke coming out of my toaster now thanks to you |
| 03:11.13 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 03:11.17 | airtonix | jiggly tits indeed |
| 03:20.25 | Amarande | hmm, I think my FF2 party may be a wee bit overpowered for this point of the game |
| 03:20.42 | Amarande | I just got back to the part where I bring back the mythril to Altair, and I'm already able to beat the soldier guys in Fynn :S |
| 03:21.13 | karl_w_w | is there an easy way to put a message in the middle of the screen, a la blizzard's "raid warnings" |
| 03:21.34 | bluspacecow | write a message to the raid warning frame ? |
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| 03:31.37 | clever | karl_w_w: one sec |
| 03:31.51 | clever | RaidNotice_AddMessage(RaidBossEmoteFrame, ("skullcrush over, safe to melee"), ChatTypeInfo["RAID_WARNING"]) |
| 03:33.53 | karl_w_w | thank you muchly |
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| 03:41.50 | amro | bah, is there a way to inherit friend status? |
| 03:41.57 | amro | Shirik2 ^ |
| 03:42.12 | Shirik2 | any such question implies a design flaw |
| 03:42.40 | amro | not really, I could just write an accessor instead but it's more typing |
| 03:43.21 | amro | is there though? |
| 03:43.31 | Shirik2 | no |
| 03:43.36 | Shirik2 | because you cannot trust any child |
| 03:43.41 | Shirik2 | friendship implies trust |
| 03:46.09 | A-KO | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ddf_1292531378 < I want one |
| 03:48.26 | karl_w_w | a bison or an over-makeuped news presenter? |
| 03:49.20 | karl_w_w | it's amazing how you have an idea for a simple addon that was literally going to be about 6 lines long, then when you make it you keep writing more crap |
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| 04:11.20 | Somtaw | Hello in there! |
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| 04:12.44 | karl_w_w | hello out there |
| 04:13.39 | karl_w_w | ive not used a saved variable before, how do you set a default so that people loading the addon for the first time actually have the variable? |
| 04:14.25 | Somtaw | I was wondering if there was an addon that when you moused over an item it show you the its potential stack size and an icon of the object if you clicked on it |
| 04:14.35 | Somtaw | in chat |
| 04:15.05 | Kraps | INSANE snow in the NYC area |
| 04:18.09 | Somtaw | could anyone help me? what would i search for in such an addon? |
| 04:18.17 | Kraps | A-KO: she looks ok but her laugh is wtf |
| 04:20.32 | airtonix | Somtaw, wiki talks about this. (protip it has to do with your toc file) |
| 04:22.21 | airtonix | http://www.wowpedia.org/The_TOC_Format |
| 04:24.13 | Somtaw | i'm looking for an addon that has already used that information, i wouldn't know how to make use of it |
| 04:30.47 | Somtaw | Anyone? |
| 04:31.47 | Thunder_Child | Somtaw: we know more about making them than knowing what exactly is out there. both curse and wowinterface have good searxh engines |
| 04:31.49 | Thunder_Child | searxh* |
| 04:31.52 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: set it at file level (your file gets run first, then wow overwrites the saved var if somthing was already stored), write code to check for its existance after ADDON_LOADED, or use AceDB |
| 04:31.54 | Thunder_Child | search* |
| 04:32.11 | mckenziemc | existence* |
| 04:33.07 | Somtaw | i still don't know what to search for, typing in that will likely yeild nothing, but i will keep looking in data mods, tooltip mods and inventory mods |
| 04:33.40 | Thunder_Child | if there is nothing specific than thats pretty much what you have to do. |
| 04:34.23 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: did you get anything today? |
| 04:35.10 | Thunder_Child | err...come to think of it, i dont remember getting any tooltip when mousing over an item link in chat |
| 04:35.44 | Somtaw | if there was an item in chat i know you have to click it |
| 04:35.45 | mckenziemc | not normally, but i think i've heard of addons doing that |
| 04:36.03 | Somtaw | so it showed stack size and a picture when you clicked on it, that would be good too |
| 04:36.15 | Thunder_Child | well if you have to click it, the tooltip part of auctioneer might do it |
| 04:36.23 | mckenziemc | Informant (from auctioneer) will put stack size of it in the tooltip |
| 04:36.52 | Somtaw | ah! i knew there was an addon i just couldn't remember it! |
| 04:37.52 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i was eying darksiders but meh |
| 04:37.54 | Somtaw | Thank you very much! |
| 04:39.22 | airtonix | informant can also be used separately from auctioneer |
| 04:39.51 | Somtaw | i don't suppose you can tell me if enchantrix works with cataclysm disenchants? |
| 04:40.15 | mckenziemc | yeah, sorry if my line suggested otherwise, just meant it was generally provided as a piece of auc |
| 04:40.43 | mckenziemc | lets you disenchant them, or provides reliable info? which do you mean |
| 04:43.35 | Somtaw | or would i need... Disenchant Predictor from Gazmik Fizzwidgets for that? the info |
| 04:43.40 | Kraps | cool, when you get a significantly long speed chain in bejeweled 3 the gems move and drop faster |
| 04:45.05 | airtonix | Kraps, so does your... |
| 04:45.14 | airtonix | voice pitch |
| 04:45.50 | Kraps | car muffler |
| 04:46.10 | airtonix | wut? |
| 04:46.59 | Kraps | thats what i was gonna say but this was more interesting |
| 04:48.58 | clever | karl_w_w: one potential problem you need to keep in mind is upgrading the saved variables |
| 04:49.20 | clever | karl_w_w: if you add a new key to a saved table, the default wont exist because the saved table overwrites it |
| 04:52.09 | Amarande | clever: you mean like how I had to delete something in the WTF folder because on one of my characters Bartender somehow ended up with a character specific keybind file that was resulting in my normal keybinds not occurring at all? |
| 04:52.51 | clever | Amarande: na, a key in the table like adding foo.new_setting |
| 04:53.08 | clever | if a new entry gets added to the table in the next version of the addon, the saved variables wont have it |
| 04:53.28 | clever | and the defaults your loading get overwriten by the saved variable file, so the default wont function right |
| 04:55.12 | clever | nothing to do with keybinds |
| 04:55.14 | airtonix | clever, treat the savedvariable table as if it were going to be empty every time and re populate it with a versioned schema inserting missing items |
| 04:55.36 | clever | yeah, i check each key against nil and repair any 'damaged' parts of it |
| 04:55.42 | clever | when ADDON_LOADED fires |
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| 04:56.51 | clever | if foo.bar == nil then foo.bar = {} end |
| 04:57.47 | Somtaw | incase your curious mckenziemc and Thunder_Child neither curse nor wowinterface had informant when i searched for it |
| 04:58.52 | airtonix | thats because its not provided standalone |
| 04:59.03 | mckenziemc | i figred, that's why i said it was from auctioneer :p |
| 05:00.36 | Somtaw | Thank you again for the name of it |
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| 05:04.10 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: it's actaully rather fun |
| 05:04.22 | Kraps | yeah? |
| 05:04.31 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 05:05.10 | Kraps | i tried the demo of devil my cry 4, the combat was a bit confusing |
| 05:05.23 | Thunder_Child | it is, but you get used to it |
| 05:05.33 | Thunder_Child | mostly |
| 05:05.45 | Kraps | heh |
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| 05:23.37 | Amarande | the only DMC I've really played more than a tiny bit of is 3 |
| 05:27.34 | Kraps | omg guys syolent green is people! |
| 05:28.54 | Amarande | Kraps: you know, everyone already knew all there is to know about Soylent Green long before that. |
| 05:29.16 | Kraps | snape kills dumbledore? |
| 05:30.25 | airtonix | you are a faceplant? |
| 05:31.11 | Kraps | silly rabbit, trix are for kids |
| 05:32.36 | Amarande | IT WAS HIS SLED |
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| 05:33.53 | Thunder_Child | silly rabbi, trids are for kicks |
| 05:36.05 | karl_w_w | i must be doing something wrong |
| 05:36.27 | karl_w_w | it's not saving my saved variables :P |
| 05:36.37 | karl_w_w | just petm_dismiss = nil |
| 05:36.37 | karl_w_w | petm_notify = nil |
| 05:36.43 | karl_w_w | when they should be true and true |
| 05:36.48 | airtonix | !spam |
| 05:36.52 | airtonix | ~spam |
| 05:36.52 | purl | methinks spam is probably a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) and razor. |
| 05:55.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik2 Iriel, it may work, but i still cringe at the thought http://gizmodo.com/5716810/how-do-you-reach-the-moon-with-your-slr-strap-on-five-huge-lens-extenders |
| 05:55.31 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: did you set them in the toc |
| 05:57.56 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: that's just silly |
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| 06:02.45 | karl_w_w | yeah it was a stupid mistake |
| 06:02.53 | karl_w_w | they were locals in the code not globals |
| 06:06.56 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 06:13.34 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: http://www.destructoid.com/how-darksiders-is-blatantly-better-than-zelda-160748.phtml |
| 06:20.27 | Sapu | quick question if anybody is here...do you need to do frame:EnableMouse(true) for OnEnter/OnLeave? |
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| 06:24.33 | karl_w_w | wonders why there isn't a category on curse for addons to do with pets |
| 06:24.55 | bluspacecow | cause shirik deleted teh pokemon catergory |
| 06:29.08 | Shirik2 | Thunder_Child: That's a really good way to have massive distortions |
| 06:29.11 | Shirik2 | :P |
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| 06:54.08 | Krellmax | I'm writing a mod that auto-fills the search box of the tradeskill window based on item you mouse-over in mailbox and it works great for default bliz window... |
| 06:54.10 | Cide | Shirik2, but the photo was pretty good |
| 06:54.59 | Krellmax | any mail with "Auction Successful" will auto-populate tradeskill search box when moused over |
| 06:55.22 | Krellmax | but with Skillet mod, it will auto-populate search box but not "click" the item in the list |
| 06:55.40 | Krellmax | i'm using the click() event but it doesn't work... at least not directly... |
| 06:56.31 | Krellmax | i'm hooking OnEnter of the mailbox button... and in there doing all the work... |
| 06:57.20 | Krellmax | but setting search box and clicking the first item in the list in Skillet won't work in that single event... i have to have the click() in OnLeave or OnClick to have it work |
| 06:57.39 | Krellmax | anyone know why? is it a timing thing? do i need to somehow register for an event? |
| 06:58.19 | Shirik2 | Cide: You wouldn't be able to see chromatic abberations until you zoom in anyway, and they may have corrected for it too |
| 06:59.14 | Shirik2 | you can start to see it in the video |
| 06:59.19 | Shirik2 | esp. at 2:17 |
| 06:59.24 | Shirik2 | pretty strong |
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| 07:03.36 | Cide | wasn't that a different group? |
| 07:03.45 | Cide | oh, no |
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| 07:15.42 | airtonix | hello |
| 07:16.54 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 07:17.23 | airtonix | yes Thunder_Child |
| 07:17.52 | Kraps | why airtonix |
| 07:18.08 | airtonix | green doors |
| 07:18.24 | airtonix | and smelly floors |
| 07:18.52 | Kraps | i do not like them sam i am |
| 07:20.59 | airtonix | oh shit |
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| 07:24.14 | Kraps | i know, i couldnt believe theres a website called elvenlust either |
| 07:28.04 | Dagmar | Rule... Thirty... Four... |
| 07:31.42 | airtonix | i am gathering my party and venturing forth |
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| 07:37.06 | Kraps | we shall meet on the field of battle |
| 07:39.37 | zid` | conflict and victory were my parents |
| 07:42.44 | Wobin | zid`: I'd hate to see a domestic =P |
| 07:42.55 | Wobin | one would always argue, the other would always win |
| 07:48.23 | airtonix | i just saved my game |
| 07:50.38 | zid` | Wobin: victory has some missing limbs, I'll admit it |
| 07:51.37 | airtonix | kinky |
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| 08:36.23 | Adys | Can you get the same rare more than once in archeology? |
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| 08:41.09 | karl_w_w | are unitIDs localized? |
| 08:44.42 | airtonix | i hope your face is |
| 08:44.48 | zenzelezz | no, they're not |
| 08:45.10 | airtonix | see karl_w_w your face is not localised... it's all over the place |
| 08:45.38 | karl_w_w | it sure does get around |
| 08:45.52 | airtonix | "You wipe your face with that hand?" |
| 08:46.14 | karl_w_w | i wiped on your mum with this face! oh i went there |
| 08:46.56 | airtonix | you disgusting peasant |
| 08:49.17 | Torhal | airtonix: Your lube was detained by customs as a biological risk. |
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| 09:04.32 | airtonix | sucks to be you |
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| 09:09.19 | Torhal | airtonix: No - you. |
| 09:10.10 | Torhal | Pure awesome. I just had to bad a guy for being a complete asshole. |
| 09:11.33 | Torhal | He uploaded a fork of a GPLv2 AddOn - someone marked it as unauthorized fan update. This could have been fixed had the guy simply said "Hey, this is GPL" - he likely would have been added to the original project's author list. |
| 09:11.45 | Torhal | Instead, he posts this in the project's comments: |
| 09:11.58 | Torhal | "Since this is a GPL project, I'm simply submitting the update as per accordance with the GPL - If you're not going to approve it, fine with me, but seeing how the original addon is GPLv2 licenced and this one is GPLv2 licenced, and appropriate credits have been given, if you decide to reject it, enjoy the idiocy of maintaining a policy of 'requiring approval' to fork an open-source project. In short, |
| 09:12.01 | Torhal | go fuck yourselves." |
| 09:12.20 | Torhal | facepalms. |
| 09:14.24 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: i would have rejected it too and pointed him to the project forks feature |
| 09:15.11 | nevcairiel | the project forks feature sucks, it doesnt create a new project, just a damn repository that doesnt really help you if the original author is gone |
| 09:16.15 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 09:17.24 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLsg_viWW0 |
| 09:19.02 | airtonix | Torhal, did you delete his upload. if not why not? |
| 09:19.27 | airtonix | Scorched Earth Policy can be your policy to for the low low price of your soul |
| 09:19.35 | airtonix | too* |
| 09:19.55 | Torhal | airtonix: The whole project is deleted, and was done so when I banned the guy. |
| 09:21.09 | Arrowmaster | this just seems so wrong to have two processes taking up 7 and 56 MB of ram also taking up 2 GB each of virt |
| 09:21.20 | Torhal | Ick |
| 09:21.41 | Arrowmaster | USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND |
| 09:21.41 | Arrowmaster | arrow 2744 0.1 0.9 1941796 56292 ? S Nov03 115:14 gnome-panel |
| 09:21.41 | Arrowmaster | arrow 2758 0.0 0.1 1944212 6868 ? S Nov03 0:10 nm-applet --sm-disable |
| 09:22.14 | Torhal | WTF |
| 09:22.31 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:32.13 | mckenziemc | how i mine 4 fish? |
| 09:37.27 | mikma | u just do it |
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| 09:42.19 | zid` | practices as fury |
| 09:42.25 | Torhal | ~fiskerslap |
| 09:42.25 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 09:42.27 | zid` | getting 9.8k on the 85 dummy |
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| 09:45.02 | mikma | torhal: muhaha |
| 09:48.31 | mckenziemc | ~fiskers |
| 09:48.31 | purl | ACTION fiskerly fiskers Fisker's fisker fisker-fiskers. |
| 09:49.07 | mckenziemc | hmm that's probably too verbose |
| 09:49.24 | mckenziemc | purl, no, fiskers is <action> fiskerly fiskers Fisker. |
| 09:49.24 | purl | okay, mckenziemc |
| 09:54.51 | mckenziemc | heh, this sounds suspicious: 'Kindle Testers Needed- Compensation Included' |
| 09:56.17 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/27/amd-radeon-hd-6950-can-be-turned-into-an-hd-6970-using-a-bios-ha/ <-lol'd |
| 09:58.39 | mckenziemc | hacks Fisker's webcam |
| 10:01.25 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 10:01.27 | Fisker | i fucked you |
| 10:02.23 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 10:02.28 | mckenziemc | i hacked your webcam |
| 10:11.49 | mckenziemc | facepalms. |
| 10:12.13 | mckenziemc | i started typing 'sudo' into a windows terminal |
| 10:14.55 | greppy | mckenziemc: I had to turn on the escape "are you sure?" option in outlook because I kept hitting escape to get into command mode while editing email... |
| 10:14.57 | Fisker | blows up mckenziemc |
| 10:15.33 | mckenziemc | rm Fisker |
| 10:16.01 | Computerpunk | Wow, DBM lets you fork. :o |
| 10:20.02 | Adys | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 10:20.36 | zid` | Anyone play a fury warrior? Wondering if 13k dps on 3 targets is any good (85 dummies) |
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| 10:23.00 | Jerub | anyone experienced with wow on linux? |
| 10:23.20 | zid` | I used to play it exclusely on linux, played it a few days ago |
| 10:23.32 | Jerub | http://pastebin.com/t3nBg3ad |
| 10:23.34 | zid` | cata works, graphics are a bit poor though |
| 10:23.45 | Jerub | i'm having trouble with it just at the moment |
| 10:23.49 | zid` | Jerub: wine Wow.exe -opengl |
| 10:24.25 | Jerub | same problem |
| 10:24.29 | Jerub | Unable to read archive hash/block table: "Data/wow-update-13287.MPQ" |
| 10:24.42 | zid` | you have read permissions on that file |
| 10:24.43 | zid` | ? |
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| 10:25.19 | Jerub | yep. |
| 10:25.32 | Jerub | and i get an exception when running launcher too... |
| 10:25.34 | zid` | humor me, what permissions does it have? |
| 10:25.40 | Jerub | 644 |
| 10:25.44 | Jerub | oh, 600 |
| 10:25.57 | zid` | I hate you. |
| 10:26.15 | Jerub | um, what? |
| 10:26.30 | zid` | "Do you have permissions?" "Yes" "What permissions does it have then?" "oops" |
| 10:26.35 | zid` | You are the bane of my existance |
| 10:26.39 | Jerub | no? |
| 10:26.44 | Jerub | it's 600, owned by me |
| 10:26.57 | zid` | chmod it +r |
| 10:27.02 | Jerub | i was looking at the lock file owned by me and was 644, which is also readable by me. |
| 10:27.10 | Jerub | um, you mean 640? 644? |
| 10:27.15 | zid` | 644 |
| 10:27.24 | zid` | the 0 in 640 is what i'm concerned about |
| 10:27.42 | Jerub | that's group read anyway, it's user:group me:me |
| 10:27.48 | zid` | no, that's not group, that's anon |
| 10:27.55 | zid` | owner, group, world |
| 10:28.11 | nevcairiel | if he is the owner, and he can read/write, what else do you need :P |
| 10:28.21 | zid` | nevcairiel: nobody said wine runs as his user |
| 10:28.27 | nevcairiel | it sure does |
| 10:28.31 | zid` | prove it first |
| 10:28.37 | zid` | otherwise this is a valid test |
| 10:28.45 | nevcairiel | wine runs as whatever user runs it |
| 10:28.52 | zid` | unless set up otherwise |
| 10:28.54 | Jerub | i've tested it, as 666, and that's having the same problem. |
| 10:28.56 | zid` | Mine runs as wine |
| 10:28.59 | zid` | Jerub: strace it then |
| 10:29.02 | Jerub | it only occurs after i auth semi-succesffuly. |
| 10:29.09 | nevcairiel | just delete that mpq file |
| 10:29.13 | zid` | heh |
| 10:29.23 | Jerub | nevcairiel: i tried that, didn't improve the situation. |
| 10:29.27 | zid` | You have +w on that directory right? |
| 10:29.27 | Xyphoid | god there are a lot of typoes in quest text in cata |
| 10:29.32 | nevcairiel | also, run the launcher, not the wow.exe |
| 10:29.37 | Jerub | stracing now |
| 10:29.46 | zid` | grep for stat and open |
| 10:29.56 | zid` | then grep it again for that file |
| 10:30.11 | Jerub | sec, it's terribly slow when you strace it |
| 10:30.21 | zid` | you're dumping the output to terminal? |
| 10:30.24 | zid` | that'd slow it down a *lot* |
| 10:30.35 | Jerub | nope, to file. |
| 10:30.35 | zid` | stracing to file should be fairly quick |
| 10:30.43 | Jerub | but wine does so many damn system calls |
| 10:30.55 | zid` | well, WoW causes wine to, but yea, it's reading a lot of data |
| 10:31.03 | mckenziemc | Xyphoid: yeah, i saw some in beta too but was too lazy to report them >< |
| 10:31.04 | zid` | you'll end up with a shit load of read() calls being displayed |
| 10:31.06 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.35 | Jerub | bah, should've straced with -f |
| 10:31.40 | Jerub | doing launcher instead now, testing that |
| 10:31.56 | Adys | lua> 0x0 |
| 10:31.57 | lua_bot | Adys: 0 |
| 10:32.06 | zid` | lua> 0x0A + 1 |
| 10:32.07 | lua_bot | zid`: 11 |
| 10:33.09 | Jerub | http://pastebin.com/fWTE6MDq |
| 10:33.25 | Jerub | that's what happens during 'applying non-critical updates' |
| 10:33.44 | zid` | what version of wine is this out of interest |
| 10:33.47 | zid` | 1.1.31 is latest isn't it? |
| 10:34.39 | zid` | and do you have direct rendering enabled |
| 10:34.58 | Adys | Hm; what's RegisterStaticConstants() ? |
| 10:35.09 | Adys | its used once in the UI in Constants.lua |
| 10:35.24 | Jerub | 1..1 |
| 10:35.25 | nevcairiel | zid`: 1.3.10 is the latest, in which universe are you living :P |
| 10:35.26 | Jerub | er 1.2.1 |
| 10:35.38 | zid` | oh right, I transposed it |
| 10:35.39 | zid` | :D |
| 10:35.47 | zid` | 1.3.1 vs 1.1.3 |
| 10:35.57 | Jerub | is wine 1.3.1 in a ppa somewhere? |
| 10:35.57 | nevcairiel | 1.3.10, not 1.3.1 |
| 10:36.01 | zid` | je |
| 10:36.05 | zid` | ppa? |
| 10:36.10 | zid` | runs gentoo |
| 10:36.54 | nevcairiel | the official ubuntu-wine ppa should have it, or at least something newer |
| 10:37.04 | zid` | anyway, direct rendering? |
| 10:37.21 | nevcairiel | that error would not be a result of rendering failure |
| 10:37.38 | zid` | It shows that I ran out of ideas eh |
| 10:37.42 | zid` | I want that strace |
| 10:37.52 | zid` | or WINEDEBUG="" setting to something useful |
| 10:39.11 | Jerub | i've got the strace of launcher. it's a little large. |
| 10:39.20 | zid` | grep out the stat and open |
| 10:39.23 | nevcairiel | on another wine-related note, the d3d9 mode is working quite well now, and its even worth using over opengl for wow |
| 10:39.32 | zid` | nevcairiel: mine was crashing |
| 10:39.48 | zid` | I might have been using DX10 though, considering I launched my usual install thinking about it |
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| 10:40.14 | nevcairiel | there is only 9 and 11, but yeah, d3d11 support in wine is basically non-existant |
| 10:40.37 | zid` | to be fair, DX11 basically doesn't exist |
| 10:40.56 | zid` | it's DX10 with architecture changes and tesselation turned on, which has been supported for years anyway via extensions |
| 10:43.08 | nevcairiel | there is shader model 5, which WoW uses when running in dx11 mode |
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| 10:44.09 | nevcairiel | In any case, the d3d11 engine in WoW runs soemwhat faster on windows, so its worth using =) |
| 10:44.31 | Jerub | okay, sorry, had connectivity issues |
| 10:44.42 | Jerub | strace -f of Launcher is 226mb |
| 10:44.55 | zid` | open and stat, plzkthx |
| 10:44.58 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:47.48 | Jerub | okay, installing wine1.3 from a ppa now |
| 10:48.40 | Jerub | zid`: that's only 6mb |
| 10:51.02 | Jerub | zid`: i'll post diagnostics after i try 1.3 |
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| 11:00.57 | Jerub | sigh. it's installing 50mb of fonts |
| 11:02.03 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:06.33 | Jerub | stupid internet connection |
| 11:06.35 | Jerub | nearly done |
| 11:06.48 | Jerub | i'm at my in-laws place and their dsl keeps dropping out due to the rain |
| 11:10.33 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Jerub |
| 11:13.17 | mckenziemc | Jerub: i didn't know dsl could do that O.o |
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| 11:14.15 | Arrowmaster | phone line wiring is probably exposed somewhere out on a line and rubbing something because of the wind |
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| 11:15.06 | Arrowmaster | or it could be like the wiring behind my house and have a tree grow around it |
| 11:18.11 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 11:19.43 | Fisker | i want to rub against you Arrowmaster |
| 11:20.33 | mckenziemc | WoW originally used version 5.0 of Lua, right? |
| 11:21.06 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: it's all in-ground |
| 11:21.09 | Jerub | but same thing |
| 11:21.15 | Jerub | water soaking into the pit probably. |
| 11:23.18 | Arrowmaster | ive heard stories about the little terminal boxes they use being too close to areas that flood, so when the water starts pooling up it gets to the box and shorts out the exposed connections inside |
| 11:24.02 | Fisker | i want to expose my connection Arrowmaster |
| 11:24.12 | Jerub | okay, back to this problem. same issue with wine1.3, i'm not convinced the unreadable mpq is actually the core of the sisue |
| 11:29.41 | Fisker | QQ |
| 11:29.46 | Fisker | 240 useless fossil fragments |
| 11:30.03 | Jerub | Fisker: lol. |
| 11:30.08 | Jerub | are you using them? or just storing them? |
| 11:30.17 | Jerub | i'm tempted to store them on the off chance that more rares are released in a patch |
| 11:30.24 | Fisker | no reason for using them |
| 11:30.27 | Fisker | hence "useless" |
| 11:30.44 | Fisker | why would you ever use them Jerub ? |
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| 11:38.25 | Jerub | Fisker: well, for the Diggerest achieve |
| 11:38.34 | Jerub | but i'm not going to, i'm just going to stockpile them |
| 11:38.51 | Jerub | on the off chance that blizzard doens't treat arch as a dead feature |
| 11:39.04 | Jerub | there's not fossil keystones even :/ |
| 11:39.06 | Jerub | er no |
| 11:39.50 | Jerub | i've already got all the orc stuff i need, 've got half the naruu rares (so i need 1 more), the troll one is a <1% drop rate and that's only a matter of time |
| 11:40.01 | Jerub | er, draenei clearly. |
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| 11:47.23 | mckenziemc | i don't think the orcs and draenei would be very happy about that slipup |
| 11:48.31 | Jerub | wooo |
| 11:48.33 | olafski | jerub: surely you already have all the fossil thingies? |
| 11:48.34 | Jerub | repair fixed it |
| 11:48.36 | olafski | no point using them |
| 11:48.40 | olafski | I have about 1500 of them stored :P |
| 11:48.53 | nevcairiel | fossil is good for skill ups |
| 11:48.56 | nevcairiel | otherwise, meh |
| 11:49.00 | olafski | about 80 troll things completed |
| 11:49.06 | olafski | got about 800 night elf fragments stored too |
| 11:49.22 | karl_w_w | surely fossil is worse for skillups, no keystones making it slower? |
| 11:49.47 | Jerub | karl_w_w: fossil is a necessery evil to get other nodes to spawn |
| 11:50.18 | nevcairiel | fossil only has 2 rares, before rares gave 15 points, it always sucked to get one .P |
| 11:51.04 | mckenziemc | okay, i would use trial and error here but the risk of causing accidental disruption is too great -- is it possible to get my own supybot to join multiple channels, relay anything from those channels to my custom channel, but NOT relay back into the others? |
| 11:51.30 | nevcairiel | why dont you just test with 2 dummy channels of your own <.< |
| 11:51.39 | nevcairiel | or more |
| 11:51.46 | nevcairiel | dont have to join some busy channel for testing |
| 11:51.50 | mckenziemc | because i wasn't smart enough to think of that >.> |
| 11:53.24 | karl_w_w | pats mckenziemc |
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| 11:54.10 | mckenziemc | bites karl_w_w's hand |
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| 12:09.01 | mckenziemc | grr i can't figure this out : / |
| 12:10.19 | Adys | is there a way to prevent F1 from targeting my pet? |
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| 12:12.21 | mckenziemc | remove the bind |
| 12:13.54 | karl_w_w | stop walking out onto the track with your pet during a race |
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| 12:24.07 | mckenziemc | blah |
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| 12:25.05 | mckenziemc | apparently the Relay plugin for supybot is for channels with the same name on different networks, rather than channels with different names on the same network : / |
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| 12:36.23 | zid` | IRC bot? |
| 12:41.43 | mckenziemc | yeah |
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| 12:42.29 | mckenziemc | now that i started playing around with supybot, i want something that would listen on multiple channels (but not respond directly to anything in them) and forward the messages to a custom channel |
| 12:43.16 | foxlit | s/u// |
| 12:44.08 | mckenziemc | no, it's 'supybot' :p |
| 12:44.26 | zid` | I'll write you one if you like |
| 12:44.36 | zid` | but, doing my daily heroic atm |
| 12:44.44 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 12:44.52 | zid` | ...what? |
| 12:45.09 | zid` | I have irc.c somewhere, just needs relay.c writing |
| 12:45.11 | zid` | and bewm |
| 12:45.43 | mckenziemc | i'd appreciate it :O i know nothing about writing in python |
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| 12:59.53 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 13:00.44 | mckenziemc | hello |
| 13:01.02 | Angayelle | !api GUID |
| 13:01.03 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'GUID': UnitGUID, GetPlayerInfoByGUID |
| 13:01.18 | Angayelle | mmmh |
| 13:01.42 | Angayelle | i haven't found something simple to get a npc name using GUID |
| 13:02.26 | Angayelle | precisely i'm trying to use UnitAura with GUID from COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 13:03.44 | Angayelle | but UnitAura don't accept GUID as unit arg so far |
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| 13:06.56 | Angayelle | anyone have an idea about how i can use UnitAura on npc units without targeting them ? |
| 13:14.23 | karl_w_w | im thinking you cant |
| 13:14.50 | Fisker | Adys |
| 13:14.51 | nevcairiel | you need a unit id, so someone has to target them |
| 13:14.53 | nevcairiel | or focus them |
| 13:14.58 | Adys | Ya? |
| 13:15.00 | Fisker | can your db search by stackable or not? |
| 13:15.08 | Adys | ?stack=0 |
| 13:15.13 | Adys | ?stack__gt=0 |
| 13:15.31 | Fisker | __gt is? |
| 13:15.35 | Adys | greater than |
| 13:16.17 | Fisker | neat |
| 13:20.19 | Adys | Fisker: any idea if you can get the same rare more than once in arch? |
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| 13:22.08 | Fisker | you can't |
| 13:23.28 | Adys | sweet |
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| 13:35.06 | Xzempt | 06:42 mckenziemc: now that i started playing around with supybot, i want something that would listen on multiple channels (but not respond directly to anything in them) and forward the messages to a custom channel |
| 13:35.20 | Xzempt | mckenziemc: Do you use mIRC by chance? |
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| 13:36.38 | mckenziemc | pidgin |
| 13:37.29 | Xzempt | oh |
| 13:37.41 | Xzempt | i could probably write something like you were talking about for mIRC |
| 13:37.57 | Xzempt | I had one written at one point but it was only single channel |
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| 14:20.16 | foxlit | $%#$%#$ real id. |
| 14:20.27 | foxlit | They broke shift-clicking to add a name into the Add friend box. |
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| 14:31.23 | Fisker | baw baw? |
| 14:33.58 | foxlit | also, tol barad is a cruel, cruel place |
| 14:34.20 | karl_w_w | when you're attacking |
| 14:35.10 | karl_w_w | the interesting thing is that there have been a truckload of thread about it and not a single blue post |
| 14:35.14 | karl_w_w | threads |
| 14:35.35 | foxlit | bah, pvp. |
| 14:35.37 | foxlit | Who cares about that?! |
| 14:36.53 | foxlit | The cruelty lies in the respawn rate in those prisons. |
| 14:37.28 | karl_w_w | everything about it is poor |
| 14:37.34 | Amarande | speaking of prisons, I should pay a visit to the new hogger |
| 14:39.58 | foxlit | also, Horde Mage Infantry. Do those guys cast anything other than molten armor? |
| 14:41.13 | LebQzz | any efficient way of displaying contents of a table with tables? |
| 14:41.14 | Amarande | btw, does Pusillin still drop the runn tum tuber recipe after the nerf to DM? |
| 14:41.29 | karl_w_w | foxlit: no |
| 14:41.35 | karl_w_w | same as druid |
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| 14:50.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 14:51.00 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1658710189 |
| 14:51.02 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 14:57.23 | Gagorian | haha |
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| 15:00.46 | bluspacecow | closed window fail |
| 15:08.39 | bluspacecow | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1381/wowscrnshot122610212446.jpg <--- this is what you get when you miss with GetMouseFocus() |
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| 15:14.44 | foxlit | "I recently bought a car and my cat died that week= buying cars kills cats." |
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| 15:21.06 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 15:21.09 | bluspacecow | you murderer! |
| 15:22.56 | olafski | good thing I lease |
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| 15:27.19 | Fisker | everything is a keylogger hazard bluspacecow |
| 15:27.24 | Fisker | including blizzards own ads |
| 15:27.30 | Fisker | (until they wised up and removed them that is) |
| 15:27.40 | foxlit | I logged into WoW and it keylogged me! |
| 15:27.40 | bluspacecow | inclduing your penis ? |
| 15:27.56 | Fisker | yep |
| 15:28.05 | Fisker | my penis will log you keys without even looking |
| 15:28.25 | Fisker | btw lol |
| 15:28.29 | Fisker | 2 mystery files downloaded |
| 15:28.32 | Fisker | = i can't computer |
| 15:28.45 | Fisker | = i held down alt(or is it ctrl?) while loading the page |
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| 15:38.06 | bluspacecow | *cranks open kernel panic report necronomicon* |
| 15:38.18 | bluspacecow | afk ananlysing kernel panic report |
| 15:38.35 | Amarande | No, BAD nether ray. MY MANA. Let go! Dammit, bad nether ray! |
| 15:39.11 | Amarande | Fisker: isn't it just sufficient to say that the price of living itself is hazards? :) |
| 15:40.58 | Fisker | atleast it wasn't a "It's in no way possible to be my fault, it's Blizzards and Blizzards alone" |
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| 15:46.59 | clever | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:47.03 | clever | what could cause this to happen? |
| 15:47.10 | clever | the function works fine most of the time |
| 15:47.28 | cbreak | clever: maybe it's returning invalid values |
| 15:47.51 | cbreak | like not being stable |
| 15:47.55 | clever | its also completely scrambling the table contents |
| 15:47.58 | cbreak | or not being correct |
| 15:48.25 | clever | cbreak: http://privatepaste.com/6fdeb1bdd9 |
| 15:48.52 | cbreak | clever: terrible indenting |
| 15:49.01 | clever | the indent on the 1st line was los |
| 15:49.02 | clever | t |
| 15:49.27 | haste | clever: don't return 0 |
| 15:49.42 | clever | return 1?, true? |
| 15:49.48 | cbreak | what does kashi_data.dists[1] contain? |
| 15:49.48 | haste | a boolean |
| 15:50.35 | clever | cbreak: it SHOULD be like http://privatepaste.com/b43f5cc3ed |
| 15:50.53 | cbreak | that's not array style table |
| 15:50.56 | clever | cbreak: but after the error, it contains http://privatepaste.com/9d34a6c7c6 |
| 15:51.03 | cbreak | table.sort only works on non-sparse tables afaik |
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| 15:51.38 | clever | cbreak: would that cause it to completly trash the data also? |
| 15:51.47 | haste | no |
| 15:51.56 | cbreak | it should just ignore the stuff it doesn't find |
| 15:51.58 | haste | your sort function is invalid, which is why |
| 15:51.58 | clever | because i never put nil's into it |
| 15:52.07 | clever | let me try with false and see |
| 15:52.10 | nevcairiel | the invalid order function error will cause all sort of funnyness |
| 15:52.25 | haste | and it prints that error instead of going into an infinte loop |
| 15:52.40 | cbreak | the function should work |
| 15:52.42 | haste | no |
| 15:52.46 | cbreak | because it should never return 0 |
| 15:52.52 | cbreak | because it should never get nil as input |
| 15:52.54 | haste | it can, easily |
| 15:52.59 | haste | it can |
| 15:53.07 | nevcairiel | If the table has holes, it will return nil |
| 15:53.08 | cbreak | in what situation? |
| 15:53.10 | nevcairiel | er, 0 |
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| 15:53.23 | nevcairiel | and his table obviously has holes |
| 15:53.43 | cbreak | yeah, that's the problem. he should fix the table |
| 15:54.06 | cbreak | sorting sparse tables doesn't really make sense |
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| 15:54.12 | haste | lua> table.sort({1,2,3,4}, function(a,b) print(a,b) return true end) |
| 15:54.13 | lua_bot | haste: 4, 1, 2, 4, 3, 4, 4, 4, 1, 4, nil, 4, luabot:1: invalid order function for sorting |
| 15:54.15 | haste | hi5 |
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| 15:54.17 | clever | i'm sorting by the value, not the key |
| 15:54.18 | haste | anyway, food |
| 15:54.51 | cbreak | clever: how do you think the order of things in an array is determined? |
| 15:54.57 | cbreak | clever: by the key. |
| 15:55.10 | nevcairiel | there is no order in hash tables |
| 15:55.14 | clever | ah i think i see what you mean |
| 15:55.31 | clever | i was trying to get the hash table to sort well in the saved file, for easy reading |
| 15:55.32 | cbreak | nevcairiel: table.sort doesn't work on the hash table part, just on the array part |
| 15:55.50 | Amarande | oooookay, auctioneer is smoking something |
| 15:55.55 | clever | without changing the key or value at all |
| 15:56.12 | cbreak | clever: that makes no sense |
| 15:56.12 | Amarande | when I mouse over a stack of motes of life, it says my best sale would be to auction them as is. |
| 15:56.15 | cbreak | clever: just change the keys to be continuous |
| 15:56.17 | cbreak | then you can sort |
| 15:56.18 | Amarande | then I mouse over another, identical stack of motes of life and it says I should convert them into primal life. |
| 15:56.19 | Amarande | WTF? |
| 15:56.28 | clever | cbreak: would that alter the keys though? |
| 15:56.40 | cbreak | clever: of course, that's the whole point of sorting |
| 15:56.46 | nevcairiel | cbreak: i didnt say it would |
| 15:56.48 | cbreak | alter the keys so the values are sorted |
| 15:56.54 | clever | wont work right then |
| 15:57.04 | cbreak | that's the only way it works right |
| 15:57.06 | Amarande | apparently, one stack of ten motes of life is better sold as is and the other is better converted to primal life? *head spins* |
| 15:57.21 | clever | cbreak: not for what i want done, i'll have to do something a bit different |
| 15:57.53 | nevcairiel | table.sort is for sorting arrays |
| 15:57.57 | nevcairiel | an array holds values |
| 15:58.01 | nevcairiel | not key-value pairs |
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| 16:01.55 | clever | wasnt thinking about it like that |
| 16:02.46 | zenzelezz | now you're thinking with tables. |
| 16:07.45 | industrial | USE CSS |
| 16:07.51 | industrial | oh, wait, lua. |
| 16:07.55 | Adys | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 16:07.58 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming #wowhead #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 5d 22h 2m 3s, last said: 'since those are the only choices in netbooks =)'. |
| 16:08.10 | industrial | Adys: He's on holiday afaik |
| 16:08.13 | Adys | Ah |
| 16:09.07 | Kraps | the weather outside is frightful, theres at least a foot of snow |
| 16:09.49 | industrial | We've had that for the last few weeks :) |
| 16:09.54 | industrial | I lurv it! |
| 16:10.00 | industrial | (but I don't own a car) |
| 16:11.19 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 16:11.31 | Fisker | any sandy bridges in .no yet haste+ |
| 16:11.57 | nevcairiel | no is full of sandy bridges, hoho |
| 16:12.48 | industrial | hey, gmail has new popups |
| 16:14.26 | Fisker | oh my industrial |
| 16:14.44 | industrial | hello yours Fisker |
| 16:17.15 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5718744/2010-the-year-in-good-video-game-news |
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| 16:21.35 | industrial | Question: If you have computer technology that can translate to alien languages in real time, how the fuck are you going to ever miss a faser shot? |
| 16:22.15 | industrial | I should stop asking unfunny questions :( |
| 16:22.49 | Fisker | geeks don't care much for weapons |
| 16:23.29 | nevcairiel | I dont see how a language processor and sensors are related |
| 16:23.44 | foxlit | industrial: deflective shields? |
| 16:24.25 | industrial | nevcairiel: we're already doing humanoid recognition in weapons right now (south korean border for example) |
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| 16:25.19 | nevcairiel | thats short-range visual processing, try that in space again :P |
| 16:25.26 | industrial | just put the faser on top of a rotationg aimbot bit on the gun ... faser aimbot on a stick .. |
| 16:25.31 | foxlit | Wait, so if a humanoid in a plant-disguise walks by? |
| 16:26.09 | nevcairiel | the weapons in andromeda have target tracking, at least! |
| 16:26.30 | TC-Work | you mean phaser? |
| 16:26.31 | zenzelezz | which Andromeda? |
| 16:26.45 | industrial | phaser schmazer |
| 16:27.14 | nevcairiel | gene roddenberrys andromeda |
| 16:27.23 | TC-Work | right, but the highguard also have a device that disrupts the tracking |
| 16:27.36 | TC-Work | higuard? |
| 16:27.46 | TC-Work | both of thoes look odd |
| 16:27.49 | nevcairiel | high guard imho |
| 16:28.03 | industrial | TC-Work: reverse the polarity on your PHaser on a stick, maybe it'l work and save the day within one second |
| 16:28.08 | industrial | \o/ |
| 16:28.10 | Kraps | some asked on Hypothetical Help if he should group with his nerd friends or jock friends during a zombie invasion. both host agreed with nerd friends |
| 16:28.33 | TC-Work | industrial: honestly it should just kill you |
| 16:28.55 | foxlit | This bugs me |
| 16:29.00 | zenzelezz | Kraps: of course you should group up with your nerd friends... then you have someone you can outrun |
| 16:29.11 | foxlit | If you hold down an alt key while using pressing a binding, |
| 16:29.12 | Kraps | zenzelezz: :( |
| 16:29.17 | Amarande | foxlit: heh. they're *probably* smart enough to tell if you're hiding underwater under a crate. |
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| 16:29.24 | industrial | TC-Work: honestly I love watching the series, I just take _everything_ with a grain of salt. |
| 16:29.29 | foxlit | Then release the alt key, then release the binding, it still counts as if you held down alt for the macro being run |
| 16:29.53 | TC-Work | industrial: oh, were you talking about 'faser' for andromenda? |
| 16:30.00 | TC-Work | Andromeda* |
| 16:30.07 | industrial | I don't know andromeda :( |
| 16:30.22 | nevcairiel | i dont think they have such things as fasers or phasers in there |
| 16:30.24 | TC-Work | then what series is it you are talking about that you love watching? |
| 16:30.32 | TC-Work | they dont, they have force lances |
| 16:30.34 | nevcairiel | probably star trek |
| 16:30.39 | TC-Work | but thats besides the point |
| 16:30.40 | industrial | yes |
| 16:30.41 | foxlit | [Did we actually kill Benedictus during the Twilight Highlands intro?] |
| 16:30.48 | foxlit | That quest was so goofy I couldn't tell :/ |
| 16:30.51 | nevcairiel | dunno what they call the other non-force lance weapons, except just "guns" |
| 16:30.58 | industrial | watching DS9 now, voyager up after that (decided to drop babylon 5 alltogether) |
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| 16:31.05 | industrial | re-watching* |
| 16:31.32 | nevcairiel | how can you drop babylon 5, this is madness |
| 16:31.39 | TC-Work | i'm actually working my way though andromeda right now, which is why i remember all this crap |
| 16:32.01 | nevcairiel | i finished andromeda a week ago or so, the final season was again a bit disappointing |
| 16:33.05 | industrial | well I'm downloading season 1-5 of andromeda now :p |
| 16:33.27 | nevcairiel | now i feel like rewatching farscape |
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| 16:34.54 | industrial | also added. ;p |
| 16:35.18 | industrial | any others I need to know about? |
| 16:48.36 | olafski | andromeda :S |
| 16:48.48 | olafski | so horrible it wasn't even funny |
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| 16:51.32 | Amarande | yaaaay DCs |
| 16:53.40 | Amarande | GAH! |
| 16:53.54 | Amarande | curses the bugged unfishable steam pump flotsam |
| 16:54.03 | Amarande | and to think I was about to finish the achievement :P |
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| 17:00.34 | foxlit | is the spell link color defined somewhere in framexml? |
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| 17:17.51 | Motig | I see PickupGuildBankItem(tab, slot), but no function to drop an item again |
| 17:17.58 | Motig | is it simply not possible or am I stupid |
| 17:18.20 | foxlit | It's the same function. |
| 17:18.50 | foxlit | Or ClearCursor() if you just want to get rid of the thing you've picked up without moving anything |
| 17:19.06 | Motig | aha |
| 17:19.17 | Motig | well I meant |
| 17:19.21 | Motig | drop it in a differernt slot |
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| 17:20.15 | Motig | ah |
| 17:20.16 | Motig | yeah |
| 17:20.18 | Motig | thanks |
| 17:20.27 | Motig | stupid I didn't try that :p |
| 17:21.07 | foxlit | nah, it's not obvious unless you've seen this pattern before |
| 17:22.00 | Motig | I really didn't feel like moving all gbank items manually :p |
| 17:22.07 | Motig | besides writing a macro for it is much more fun! |
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| 17:44.53 | Amarande | grrrrrr |
| 17:44.59 | Amarande | where the bloody hell is the steam pump flotsam |
| 17:45.05 | Amarande | I've encountered ONE node, and it can't be fished |
| 17:45.43 | nevcairiel | all around the steam pumps |
| 17:45.51 | nevcairiel | fish away other pools, and it may spawn |
| 17:47.17 | durcyn | it's not just near the pumps, any zangarmarsh node can be flotsam |
| 17:47.25 | durcyn | at least in that central lake |
| 17:48.27 | Kraps | stupid http://newyork.cbslocal.com/ refreshing the page making the videos stop |
| 17:48.36 | Amarande | There's also one that can spawn near Sporeggar, but you can't fish it, BLIZZARD YOU TEASE. |
| 17:48.39 | Amarande | yay, achievement acquired |
| 17:49.12 | durcyn | you want to see fucked up fishing nodes, go to south stranglethorn by the vortex, the old nodes from pre-shattering are floating in the air |
| 17:50.00 | Amarande | Oops. Reported it? |
| 17:50.12 | durcyn | no, it's more amusing to leave them |
| 17:50.46 | durcyn | not like blizzard reads bug reports anyway, i reported the meta achievement date thing six months ago, and didn't even get an acknowledgement |
| 17:51.06 | Kraps | they dont fix broken quests in northrend, why would they fix fishing nodes? |
| 17:52.52 | Amarande | Kraps: because fixing a fishing node is simply to delete the spawnpoint from the database, while fixing a quest is more involved? |
| 17:53.37 | durcyn | forum posts are the absolute worst way to track issues, that may as well be a black hole you drop your words into |
| 17:56.20 | Fisker | i will kill a Kraps |
| 17:56.22 | Fisker | for free |
| 17:56.37 | Kraps | except i am unkillable |
| 17:57.31 | durcyn | so was bruce willis, but just look what happened to him in a swimming pool |
| 17:58.06 | Kraps | ? |
| 17:58.30 | durcyn | i would tell you to watch Unbreakable, but it's a Shyamalan movie, so I can't |
| 17:59.10 | Kraps | you know whats awesome? people hating on blizzard for giving money to charity http://kotaku.com/5473771/pandaren-monk-generates-11-million-worth-of-wishes |
| 17:59.42 | Kraps | durcyn: i want to watch that actually |
| 18:02.34 | durcyn | it wasn't bad actually, before the inevitable decline as he ran out of ideas |
| 18:02.47 | durcyn | anything after Signs, and you're fucked, though |
| 18:03.04 | Fisker | the funny part is that there are entire product lines in retail based on the same concept |
| 18:03.08 | Fisker | why not QQ about that? |
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| 18:05.22 | p3lim | Anyone here have experience with the [cursor] argument in macros? |
| 18:05.43 | p3lim | Couldnt find any docs on how its used so |
| 18:07.42 | Fisker | i disagree that it's an argument |
| 18:08.11 | p3lim | conditionals |
| 18:11.50 | durcyn | you disagree, fisker |
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| 18:15.10 | Fisker | i disagree durcyn |
| 18:16.10 | durcyn | i know! |
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| 18:25.15 | Kraps | anyone familiar with a program called "Scanner" that hijacks many windows system apps, like checkdisc and defrag, it also throws bogus systems and disk errors? my friends laptop has it, theres no uninstaller, the only way i can get it to not load on restart is to boot in safe mode |
| 18:26.22 | Amarande | sounds like malware, Kraps |
| 18:26.37 | Kraps | ya think |
| 18:26.39 | Kraps | :) |
| 18:27.24 | Kraps | do i run a malware checker in safe mode? |
| 18:28.22 | Sesshu | it should be in the autostart list then |
| 18:28.40 | Sesshu | run msconfig while windows runs in safe mode it turn it off |
| 18:28.43 | durcyn | you wipe that fucker and reinstall, then slap the user until they stop logging in as an administrator |
| 18:33.17 | Kraps | Sesshu: i already turned it off in msconfig, cant remember if it was in safe mode |
| 18:34.57 | Sesshu | if the malware ran while doing that it turned itself on again i think |
| 18:36.58 | Teomyr | most crapware is beyond msconfig's abilities anyway |
| 18:37.01 | Sesshu | if i have a virus on my pc i boot a linux live cd and start scanning with it for viruses :) |
| 18:37.09 | Teomyr | next options would be sysinternals' autoruns or hijackthis |
| 18:39.25 | Amarande | yay I finally found the rare worm in hellfire ... and it drops an item "of the Wolf" |
| 18:42.25 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 18:42.29 | Fisker | "friend" |
| 18:42.31 | Fisker | riiiiiiiiiiight |
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| 18:42.59 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 18:43.05 | Kraps | i will kill you |
| 18:44.50 | Fisker | but i will have sex with your mother Kraps |
| 18:45.06 | Fisker | so whatever you do to me i can say i've been through worse |
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| 18:50.07 | foxlit | grumble, can't reforge resilience |
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| 18:51.29 | Fisker | old foxlit |
| 18:51.38 | Fisker | isn't blizzards first barbeque etc. |
| 18:51.59 | nevcairiel | i want to reforge resilience away, not add it |
| 18:52.00 | nevcairiel | ! |
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| 18:52.24 | Jamash | same reasoning |
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| 18:52.52 | Jamash | they don't want pve gear turned into pvp gear or vice-versa by reforging |
| 18:53.00 | Amarande | Jamash: especially now that pvp gear has higher ilvl than pve gear |
| 18:53.15 | Amarande | if they let you reforge resilience, it might force people to be arena masters to raid in some cases |
| 18:53.34 | foxlit | Um, no. |
| 18:53.42 | foxlit | They'd have to *really* screw up itemization for that. |
| 18:53.57 | foxlit | Besides, it's not like reforging gets rid of the entirety of a stat. |
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| 18:54.09 | Jamash | you say that like they've never really screwed up itemization before |
| 18:54.51 | foxlit | Have they now? :) |
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| 18:55.28 | Amarande | and why is it that now that I don't need it for the achievement and already got the quest-giving item from it, steam pump flotsam is everywhere? |
| 18:55.30 | foxlit | They have, however, screwed up loot tables -- there are no 346+ leather healing bracers in the game. |
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| 18:56.01 | Fisker | you don't need em! |
| 18:56.12 | Fisker | similar shit for plate though |
| 18:56.14 | Fisker | not as bad though |
| 18:56.15 | Amarande | foxlit: also the lack of plate DPS helms from reputation and pre-heroic drops |
| 18:56.23 | Fisker | only 2 bracers above ilvl 318 before raids |
| 18:56.27 | durcyn | foxlit: isn't there a tolvir zone drop |
| 18:56.27 | Amarande | you must get your pre-heroic plate dps helm crafted, or accumulate JPs |
| 18:56.29 | Fisker | well 4 |
| 18:56.36 | Fisker | but the 2 others are just heroic versions of the first ones |
| 18:56.38 | foxlit | durcyn: heroic version does not drop. |
| 18:56.39 | Amarande | (well there is the one from TotT, but 308 doesn't cut it) |
| 18:56.55 | Amarande | Heroic BoE drops are currently bugged. |
| 18:57.35 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/items=4.2?filter=sl=9;minle=346;cr=24;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 18:57.52 | foxlit | that's the sad state of affairs; oasis bracers aren't in the game |
| 18:57.57 | Fisker | there's 2! :P |
| 18:58.00 | Fisker | oh :( |
| 18:58.11 | Amarande | actually, there seems to be a paucity of plate DPS gear in general |
| 18:58.15 | nevcairiel | its not like JPs are hard to get |
| 18:58.20 | Amarande | the vast majority of it is itemized for tanking or holydins |
| 18:58.26 | Dagmar | I got over the 329 marker with a PvP ring |
| 18:58.28 | Amarande | nev: they are before you're geared for heroics, though |
| 18:58.44 | foxlit | "the vast majority of it is itemized for tanking or holydins" << wink wink nudge nudge |
| 18:58.44 | Dagmar | ...which, not being PvE or not, had a freaking PILE of stats on it anyway |
| 18:58.50 | nevcairiel | if you failed to have 4k before 85, you sucked |
| 18:58.52 | foxlit | If you aren't tanking, why aren't you tanking? :P |
| 18:58.57 | Amarande | wonders if it's supposed to be a subtle nudge that they want melee to tank. |
| 18:58.59 | durcyn | 4k, pff |
| 18:59.05 | durcyn | shoulda had 10+! |
| 18:59.07 | Amarande | of course, that makes me wonder where rogues fit into the equation |
| 18:59.12 | Dagmar | Amarande: It beats letting the mages tank |
| 18:59.17 | Amarande | Plate melee classes can all tank (or heal in the case of paladins) |
| 18:59.25 | Dagmar | Amarande: Kiting |
| 18:59.27 | Amarande | Enh Shamans can take a resto spec |
| 18:59.34 | Amarande | Feral druids can tank |
| 18:59.38 | Amarande | but ... rogues? :S |
| 18:59.44 | Dagmar | They can kite |
| 18:59.52 | Jamash | bandage spec |
| 18:59.54 | foxlit | what about rogues, anyway |
| 18:59.59 | Jamash | hell, they can tank |
| 18:59.59 | Amarande | are there actually encounters right now that need kiting? |
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| 19:00.06 | foxlit | There's no *tanking leather* |
| 19:00.18 | nevcairiel | there are plenty plate dps pieces, warriors are good on dps |
| 19:00.24 | Dagmar | Amarande: This is why your usual histrionics fails you. Yes, there is at least one kiting fight. |
| 19:00.40 | Amarande | nev: yeah, it seems to be certain specific slots that are difficult, particularly the helm |
| 19:00.50 | nevcairiel | so save your JPs up for them |
| 19:00.51 | Dagmar | Amarande: You remember the guy at the end of Blackrock? |
| 19:01.08 | nevcairiel | one item should be easy |
| 19:01.10 | Amarande | Ahh, I think I remember now |
| 19:01.17 | Amarande | I only did BRC once, and it was the first instance I did in Cata |
| 19:01.19 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: |
| 19:01.23 | Kraps | TC-Work: |
| 19:01.40 | TC-Work | Kraps: |
| 19:01.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yeah, some people try to "just AoE" that, but there's a word for that technique and the word is "FAIL" |
| 19:01.54 | Kraps | TC-Work: whats good yo |
| 19:02.32 | Dagmar | Your tank can fight with his elbows and have left his pants at home, and if you have two people kiting those assistants around, you will still win |
| 19:02.50 | TC-Work | Kraps: machinarium is good |
| 19:03.12 | Dagmar | If they do *not* kite them around, the adds wind up on the healer or the tank within a few moments |
| 19:03.37 | Kraps | TC-Work: what else |
| 19:03.42 | TC-Work | Kraps: mirrors edge is good, though heavy system reqs |
| 19:03.45 | TC-Work | when it came out |
| 19:03.56 | Dagmar | The kiting is stupidly easy on my hunter, and not much harder on the warlock so a rogue shouldn't have a lot of trouble |
| 19:04.07 | Kraps | i'm actually stuck in that game :/ |
| 19:04.17 | TC-Work | Kraps: i'm thinking NWN2 |
| 19:04.17 | foxlit | except those pesky ranged ayyacks. |
| 19:04.23 | foxlit | hm, close. |
| 19:04.24 | Dagmar | Kraps: Vertigo. I no likey. |
| 19:04.39 | TC-Work | i hate KOTOR, but many people like it |
| 19:04.51 | Kraps | Dagmar: wow really? "D |
| 19:05.16 | Dagmar | Kraps: I used to get seriously nauseated trying to play Descent |
| 19:05.41 | Dagmar | So... Mirror's Edge is a great big exercise in how many dramamine I can take |
| 19:05.48 | zenzelezz | Half-Life 2's river boat ride made me queasy |
| 19:06.13 | Dagmar | That sort of thing doesn't give me problems. As long as I"m regularly upright _most_ of the time, I'm fine. |
| 19:06.24 | Dagmar | It's the doooooown and rollovers that get me disoriented |
| 19:06.31 | zenzelezz | I normally don't get that either, which was why I was so puzzled by the HL2 thing |
| 19:06.40 | Dagmar | Might have been video latency |
| 19:07.06 | Dagmar | Having the display lag slightly behind what you're expecting (and it doesn't take much) will make a lot of people ill |
| 19:07.25 | Dagmar | It's one of the caveats with HMDs |
| 19:07.40 | zenzelezz | HMD? |
| 19:07.49 | Dagmar | Head-mounted display |
| 19:08.02 | Dagmar | If your head positioning lags, you better plan on building a barf bag into the thing |
| 19:09.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: how about 85 raid fights, which ones if any need kiting? |
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| 19:09.12 | Dagmar | Amarande: That same one |
| 19:09.39 | Dagmar | I don't know about the raids yet. I just got cleared for Heroics and there's two instances I've yet to do in regular mode |
| 19:09.54 | nevcairiel | Blizzard should really do something about one and the same item dropping 3 times in the same mob on the same kill |
| 19:09.55 | Amarande | when I think of serious business fights I tend to think of raids ... and the last time I remember needing kiting was the Plague wing in ICC |
| 19:10.01 | Dagmar | Either way, if you can keep out of arm's reach, a kite is as good as a CC when done right |
| 19:10.36 | zenzelezz | Okay, you pull Drakk away and we'll... |
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| 19:11.40 | Jamash | fight the adds until you kite drakk into lord valthalak and they rape your face and come back to wipe the raid |
| 19:13.33 | Dagmar | Not sure if Azil counts |
| 19:13.56 | Dagmar | ...although pretty much everyone's kiting that one. |
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| 19:19.10 | Amarande | ok, weird UI thing |
| 19:19.14 | Amarande | with the Blizzard quest helper stuff |
| 19:19.29 | Amarande | why is it that sometimes when you click on a quest on the map screen it shows it in a nice visible blue and other times in a barely visible grey? |
| 19:21.33 | Jamash | same thing with archaeological sites |
| 19:21.41 | Jamash | sometimes they're red, sometimes they're gray |
| 19:28.15 | Amarande | any idea what triggers it? |
| 19:30.09 | Gagorian | Quest level? |
| 19:30.52 | Robsato | I had this due to an addon. When I would go into combat and open the map, the blobs were gray while they were blue before. Also got the "Action has been blocked" error in the chatwindow then. Always worked fine with just the Blizz UI. |
| 19:34.19 | Ackis | anyoneh ere getting bugs with arch skill ups? I just completed a rare, didn't get a skill up |
| 19:43.25 | durcyn | are you capped |
| 19:43.32 | Ackis | nope |
| 19:43.41 | Ackis | I got skill ups with common ones right after |
| 19:43.45 | durcyn | sounds like you found a bugged recipe! |
| 19:44.01 | durcyn | which one was it? i'll see if i have it on any of my characters |
| 19:44.22 | Ackis | druid & priest statue for NE |
| 19:45.40 | olafski | ackis: guildie of mine said the same thing, about that statue thing too |
| 19:45.52 | Ackis | blargh |
| 19:47.33 | Fisker | er du en pik Ackis ? |
| 19:50.47 | Jamash | HÅ«sker DÅ« Fisker? |
| 19:50.53 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 19:51.26 | sylvanaar_work | ~x dk en er du en pik |
| 19:51.31 | sylvanaar_work | no |
| 19:51.38 | sylvanaar_work | what lang was it |
| 19:51.51 | Maldivia | it is danish |
| 19:51.59 | Jamash | I love danishes |
| 19:52.01 | sylvanaar_work | thats what i thought |
| 19:52.08 | sylvanaar_work | isnt danish dk? |
| 19:52.20 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 19:52.31 | Maldivia | no, it's da |
| 19:52.41 | sylvanaar_work | ~x da en er du en pik |
| 19:53.23 | Maldivia | are you sure you want to know what it means? |
| 19:53.33 | sylvanaar_work | im sure it has something to do with penis |
| 19:53.39 | zenzelezz | "ISO 3166 code DK" |
| 19:54.13 | sylvanaar_work | i got it |
| 19:54.23 | sylvanaar_work | seems like purl doesnt like danish |
| 19:54.28 | zenzelezz | who does? |
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| 19:56.16 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: yes, dk is Denmark, da is Danish |
| 19:57.00 | Maldivia | you want ISO 639-1 codes :) |
| 19:57.52 | Ackis | there's a difference between denmark and danish? |
| 19:58.19 | zenzelezz | one's a country, one's a language |
| 19:58.26 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: apparently so... was just checking that |
| 19:59.21 | Fisker | i hate conclave loot |
| 20:00.45 | zenzelezz | I wish the media would stop referring to gang members as "gangbangers" |
| 20:02.20 | Fisker | do want |
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| 20:08.51 | Kraps | fisker wants to be gangbanged? |
| 20:12.08 | Kraps | "Okay first of all why are you even using Anti virus program, they sucks so bad. I don't use any viruses program because that what make alot issues with the game online problems." |
| 20:12.17 | Kraps | dies a little |
| 20:13.40 | Fisker | truth |
| 20:14.29 | Dagmar | Kraps: Don't worry, the viruses will get them soon |
| 20:16.04 | Adys | i just finished farming 22000 critters for Critter Kill Squad the past 3 hours |
| 20:16.11 | Adys | and i just noticed theres a followup |
| 20:16.12 | Adys | :( |
| 20:16.19 | Kraps | after some people went apeshit on the guy, another pro jumps in:"I have never used anti virus software, EVER, and I've been using computers since the mid-80's. I have never, EVER had an issue that I couldn't handle myself in a matter of minutes and I've also never had any of my .exe files deleted by an over-zealous resource-hog program either. I'm not recommending that nobody use it, but... |
| 20:16.21 | Kraps | ...Anti-Virus software is definitely not a necessity if you have half a brain in your head (as far as computers are concerned) and don't frequent fly-by-night russian porn sites every day. " |
| 20:17.08 | Dagmar | Yep. Bogons. |
| 20:17.27 | Dagmar | No matter how much time you spend dampening them, there's always more emitters |
| 20:18.45 | Amarande | Dagmar: Stupidity is mediated by the emission of subatomic particles called morons. :) |
| 20:19.14 | Dagmar | No, the particles are called bogons and they're emitted by morons. ;) |
| 20:19.15 | Amarande | though apparently there was actually a serious panel at Dragon Con this year that was skeptical about the merits of antivirus software |
| 20:19.32 | Dagmar | Yeah I know some of those people. It wasn't quite like that |
| 20:19.43 | Dagmar | I gotta get after some of them about whitelisting |
| 20:20.13 | Dagmar | They came off somewhat unclear |
| 20:21.34 | Amarande | doh, I forgot I can't fly in Northrend at 67 |
| 20:21.46 | Amarande | that might make gathering goldclover a bit of a trouble. |
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| 20:23.12 | Kraps | best wow vid ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:28.00 | Amarande | also, here's a quest that I think one can safely call impossible now. heh. |
| 20:28.05 | Amarande | "kill 10 enemy players in Halaa" |
| 20:28.41 | Napoleone | hmm if i have a string with a semiunknown lenght e.x. charname1,charname2,... and lets say there are 4 names in that string. |
| 20:29.27 | Napoleone | if i make local char1, char2, char3, char4, char5, char6 = string.split(",",stringwithchars) |
| 20:29.45 | Napoleone | wouldnt it just ignore the last char 5 and 6 and set them to nil? |
| 20:34.00 | Kraps | http://swagdog.com/armoryinterface.aspx |
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| 20:44.41 | Adys | Napoleone: yes |
| 20:45.03 | Napoleone | Message: Interface\AddOns\PPUI_money\extra.lua:188: bad argument #2 to 'split' (string expected, got nil) |
| 20:45.07 | Napoleone | what i get from that |
| 20:45.22 | Napoleone | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.24 | Napoleone | basicly |
| 20:45.24 | Adys | then, argument #2 you passed is nil |
| 20:45.34 | Adys | in this case PPUI_chars[tostring(pp_uniq)]["name"] |
| 20:45.45 | Adys | and holy crap man, fix your code style. |
| 20:45.53 | Napoleone | heh experimenting atm |
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| 20:52.35 | Napoleone | adys, i edited SavedVariable and forgetting one "name" understandable now ;) |
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| 21:13.49 | Kraps | Mike Morhaime is jewish? :o |
| 21:16.54 | Fisker | i once killed a Kraps |
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| 21:21.42 | intangir_ | wheres a good place to start if i want to make a tooltip that pops up on the guild roster |
| 21:21.45 | intangir_ | with member info |
| 21:21.52 | intangir_ | i have the info, but i have no idea how to do the popup |
| 21:23.24 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 21:23.24 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 21:23.44 | foxlit | ugh, 355 mb :/ |
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| 21:40.16 | Amarande | ok, is there actually a CD on the holiday hot apple cider that I didn't know about, or did I bug this up? |
| 21:40.43 | Amarande | tried to drink the cider after a death, realized I might want to restore HP too, so I ate my mage food, which of course overwrote the drinking from the cider so I never got the buff, so I tried to drink another cider and "I can't use that item yet" |
| 21:40.47 | Amarande | Food/drink NEVER have CDs. |
| 21:40.58 | Amarande | They're GCD, far as I know ... |
| 21:46.40 | Amarande | ok, logging back in fixed that. still not *quite* sure what bugged up, because those items are on GCD and should never *have* a CD |
| 21:47.16 | zenzelezz | it's to show people you shouldn't be chugging down alcoholic drinks so fast |
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| 21:52.24 | Fisker | harden skill is a jerk move |
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| 21:55.19 | Kraps | mmoc's bluetracker still has old stuff like the realid stuff |
| 21:56.24 | nevcairiel | I hate how every link to the wow forums you find through google is invalid now |
| 21:56.27 | nevcairiel | that really sucks :P |
| 21:58.14 | Kraps | yeah :( |
| 21:58.30 | Amarande | zenzelezz, even Sulfuron Slammer is on the GCD :) |
| 21:58.47 | Amarande | (That's still the strongest alcohol in the game, right?) |
| 22:00.11 | Dagmar | Not sure that even matters |
| 22:00.56 | Amarande | Yeah. It looks like that if you drink a normal drink, then eat mage food, then try to go back to the normal drink, the previous one is permanently on CD until you log out |
| 22:01.10 | Amarande | Appears to be a bug. |
| 22:01.35 | Amarande | Yay, that's two bugs I'll have to mail in, between that and the fishing node in Zangar that can't be fished |
| 22:02.43 | Fisker | i once farted a Kraps |
| 22:03.09 | Kraps | i once killed 20 Fiskers and their moms |
| 22:03.10 | Amarande | meanwhile grumbles a bit about fishing |
| 22:03.19 | Amarande | only found *one* mudfish node in Nagrand, and I can't fish it |
| 22:03.36 | Amarande | this time because it's right next to Garadar and there's no way to get at it without aggroing the guards. :| |
| 22:04.27 | Amarande | and I KNOW there's an 85 horde around in the area, since I declined to do the escort in Sunspring due to it. |
| 22:07.37 | karl_w_w | you can't get to the node with water walking? |
| 22:08.37 | Amarande | karl: I don't have water walking on this character |
| 22:08.52 | Amarande | I guess I could *if* I was going to go all the way back to SW and hire a shaman :P |
| 22:09.01 | karl_w_w | everybody has water walking, there's an elixir :P |
| 22:09.18 | karl_w_w | you get it occasionally from sw daily and regularly from dal daily |
| 22:09.28 | karl_w_w | and it's a godsend for fishing |
| 22:14.19 | Kraps | "I wish I'd made it into the beta for Real Life. Back then all the zones weren't mapped, and a lot of them hadn't even been discovered yet. There also seemed to be a far more extensive PvP system back then." |
| 22:15.48 | zenzelezz | the PvP system is just as extensive now; people just don't accept griefers anymore |
| 22:18.01 | Kraps | i think he meant melee pvp, today it's pretty much all ranged, which obviously makes certain players OP |
| 22:19.44 | zenzelezz | depends which zone you're in |
| 22:20.47 | Dagmar | Amarande: You could always come back at some later time when there'll be more/different nodes up |
| 22:21.02 | Dagmar | Believe me there's more than one mudfish school node in that zone. |
| 22:21.44 | karl_w_w | you'll have to fish up other nodes to give them a chance to spawn |
| 22:21.51 | karl_w_w | or wait until others do |
| 22:33.13 | zenzelezz | tickles Cairenn |
| 22:33.28 | Cairenn | giggles and hugs zenzelezz |
| 22:33.37 | zenzelezz | :-) |
| 22:34.18 | zenzelezz | so for christmas my brother and his girlfriend got me one of those kitty-houses and lots of kitten food. I think they're trying to tell me something |
| 22:34.35 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 22:35.59 | karl_w_w | maybe they were going to get you a kitten as well but they didn't know you shouldn't wrap them |
| 22:36.45 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 22:36.57 | zenzelezz | nah, I've been talking about it for a while, but haven't gotten around to it |
| 22:37.40 | Cairenn | they have a litter of kittens they're trying to get rid of? or you have a birthday coming up soon? |
| 22:39.21 | zenzelezz | they just really like animals, and they know I'm fond of cats (my Australian friends refer to me as "Catman", from the profile picture I use on MSN...). I do have a birthday coming up soon, but actually getting a cat is something they've left to me |
| 22:40.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:41.42 | zenzelezz | need to get a few more things first, then I can visit the shelter and see if they have any suitable cats at the moment |
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| 22:45.03 | DWSR | Is there a way to see exactly which quests I've done on a character/ |
| 22:45.10 | foxlit | api. |
| 22:45.19 | foxlit | it'd get you a list of IDs, at least. |
| 22:45.21 | DWSR | Because I had a bug with Malfurion not giving me more quests in Hyjal, so I skipped it. |
| 22:45.41 | DWSR | And I want to go back and do it. |
| 22:46.05 | Thrae | foxlit: You can actually get a list from the server of what quests a specific character has completed? |
| 22:46.13 | foxlit | yes. |
| 22:46.14 | DWSR | Thrae: Yeah, that I know. |
| 22:46.23 | DWSR | I just wanted to know if there was a way for me to export that to WH or something similar |
| 22:46.24 | Thrae | Neat. |
| 22:46.28 | DWSR | So I can see it visually. |
| 22:46.31 | Adys | !api getquestscompleted |
| 22:46.31 | lua_bot | GetQuestsCompleted: Gets a table containing the quests the player has completed (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetQuestsCompleted) |
| 22:49.37 | Robsato | The wowhead client uploads your questhistory to the site so you can view it |
| 22:52.43 | DWSR | yeah, saw that. |
| 22:52.44 | DWSR | Thanks. |
| 22:52.47 | DWSR | That's what I need. |
| 23:01.33 | karl_w_w | there's also an in-game addon that does it: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/quest_completist.aspx |
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| 23:20.47 | Thrae | karl_w_w: Sounds interesting. I'll give that a try. |
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| 23:33.49 | psymin | Anyone know if there is a way to call a macro from the cli? |
| 23:35.08 | karl_w_w | there's a cli? |
| 23:36.32 | psymin | well, the chat window :) |
| 23:38.49 | cbreak | you can put it on a button and /click that button |
| 23:41.47 | psymin | Any way that doesn't take up button real estate? :) |
| 23:41.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:42.14 | Dagmar | You can always make the button 0px by 0px. |
| 23:42.35 | Dagmar | ...then maybe use an Escher mouse to click on it. |
| 23:42.48 | psymin | heh |
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| 23:48.49 | Shirik2 | Wobin: I'm going to have to assume that's left from when I graduated |
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