| 00:00.06 | Zasurus | I also like Steven Baxters books |
| 00:02.11 | Zasurus | http://www.stephen-baxter.com/books.html Although I have only read a few like Raft, Voyager, Light of other days |
| 00:04.04 | Kraps | this site is weird, the from page wont recommend scifi or fantasy books like the ones that are in my queue or ordered but will recommend erotic fiction which i may or may not have searched for |
| 00:04.13 | Kraps | <.< |
| 00:04.14 | Warlocomotif | ive been looking for things to read after I finish the 5th and 6th parts, so ill keep those in mind :) |
| 00:04.15 | Kraps | >.> |
| 00:04.35 | Warlocomotif | lol |
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| 00:13.27 | Zasurus | OK I am confused about LibStub... When a creating a new minor version of a library I use local LibraryName = LibStub:NewLibrary("Major-1.1", 2); and if this one is newer it will return the old one... But I want to start a fresh as there are functions and values that have been removed with the new one. I want to just add a line after that that says "LibraryName = {};" but that will not put |
| 00:13.27 | Zasurus | the new array back into LibStub... HELP! :D |
| 00:15.40 | Arrowmaster | why are you removing things in a new minor version? |
| 00:15.46 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt you make it a new major version |
| 00:16.37 | Zasurus | Well it doesn't affect the API so I don't see why... new functionality has been added and it involved a shuffle of some of the values and functions inside but you can still use it in the old way |
| 00:17.21 | Zasurus | Is that the problem? Is it only designed for very minor changes... I have been going with major if api changes and minor for everything else |
| 00:17.48 | Arrowmaster | well its not designed to just throw away the old one |
| 00:17.58 | Arrowmaster | that caused too many problems with the old AceLibrary design |
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| 00:18.38 | Arrowmaster | will the removed things cause problems if they are left around? i wouldnt think so since nothing will be calling or accessing them |
| 00:18.40 | Zasurus | So how should I do it? I guess I could blank the values etc that have been removed |
| 00:19.02 | Zasurus | Guess not it's just junk |
| 00:19.40 | Zasurus | So they are using extra memory (although in this case VERY small but still) |
| 00:20.00 | Arrowmaster | either leave them or add some code to blank them |
| 00:20.09 | Zasurus | K Thanks :) |
| 00:26.21 | Kraps | TC-Work: yo |
| 00:26.33 | TC-Work | Kraps: yo-yo |
| 00:27.23 | Kraps | TC-Work: idk about killing floor, i never get into online shooters even though i think "this time i will" |
| 00:28.01 | Warlocomotif | if you think world of warcraft nerdrage is bad |
| 00:28.03 | TC-Work | Kraps: i love counter-strike, however i passed on killing floor. |
| 00:28.04 | Warlocomotif | dont play online fps games |
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| 00:37.18 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5713070/this-is-what-2011s-year-in-games-looks-like-now |
| 00:50.37 | Gagorian | To be honest, who cares as long as Diablo III is released! |
| 00:51.55 | syrae | Portal 2!!!! |
| 00:52.03 | syrae | Seemed fun when I played it. |
| 01:01.29 | Nechckn | Someone around here lives in Philadelphia, PA - right? |
| 01:01.45 | Nechckn | 's memory is getting hazier by the moment! |
| 01:18.59 | Shirik | Nechckn: I am periodically in PA |
| 01:19.04 | Shirik | perhaps that's what you are referring to? |
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| 01:26.11 | Nobgul | Nechckn, i live withitn 25 mins of phila |
| 01:27.15 | syrae | I eat Philadelphia cream cheese on occasion |
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| 02:07.40 | Adys | http://satwcomic.com/leaking |
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| 02:18.17 | Cide | so |
| 02:18.22 | Cide | best wireless/wired router? |
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| 02:18.30 | Cide | apparently my current one gave up |
| 02:18.43 | Nobgul | can u get to the goblin arean if your not a gblin? |
| 02:18.49 | Xyphoid | not to kezan |
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| 02:29.37 | TC-Away | Cide: what do you want it to do? |
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| 02:30.02 | Cide | not suck? |
| 02:30.14 | Thunder_Child | ok, what do you want it to do? |
| 02:30.25 | Cide | not suck? |
| 02:31.41 | Dagmar | "The droprate on the Precious Locket from Royal Monkfish in Stormwind waters for the Fishing daily quest "Big Gulp" has been increased." <-- definitely needed |
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| 02:41.29 | airtonix | Dagmar, canals need more visuals |
| 02:41.33 | Cide | pop quiz then |
| 02:41.40 | airtonix | like unfishable fishes |
| 02:41.49 | airtonix | and stuff |
| 02:42.04 | Cide | my internet connection drops every ~5 minutes... and starts working again pretty much immediately when I release and renew dhcp information |
| 02:42.05 | Adys | Cide: get a netgear, most of em are good |
| 02:42.12 | airtonix | the random man eating alligator every four years doesn't cut it |
| 02:42.13 | Cide | isp or router? |
| 02:42.19 | Dagmar | I've never even seen that thing |
| 02:42.30 | airtonix | i did |
| 02:42.31 | airtonix | once |
| 02:42.34 | Dagmar | ...but I was definitely seeing people take a half hour or more to complete that daily |
| 02:42.36 | airtonix | then i logged off |
| 02:42.43 | Dagmar | I even spent a half hour on it at one point |
| 02:43.06 | Dagmar | Stuff like that is the reason I killed Nat Pagle. |
| 02:43.18 | airtonix | Cide, hard to tell if you can't run packet inspection tools from the router |
| 02:43.53 | Cide | I can ping and traceroute as far as I can tell |
| 02:43.55 | Cide | that's about it |
| 02:44.00 | airtonix | not good enough |
| 02:44.10 | Cide | figured as much |
| 02:44.26 | airtonix | and you really need someone on the isp end helping you |
| 02:44.32 | Cide | been there, tried that |
| 02:44.36 | Cide | they're useless |
| 02:44.42 | airtonix | yeah |
| 02:45.02 | Cide | changed to static ip, gonna wait and see |
| 02:45.18 | airtonix | if you're really concerned you could take the router and simulate a brdiged network with another and test it at both ends ? |
| 02:45.34 | Cide | I just want it fixed |
| 02:45.40 | Cide | but preferably without paying for another router |
| 02:45.57 | airtonix | can you flash it with custom firmware ? |
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| 02:46.07 | Cide | in theory |
| 02:46.12 | Cide | but it doesn't support dd-wrt |
| 02:46.20 | airtonix | not on the device list? |
| 02:47.03 | Cide | it's there but listed as unsupported |
| 02:47.16 | Cide | I have the linksys WRT160Nv2 |
| 02:47.21 | Cide | v2 is the only unsupported version :/ |
| 02:47.26 | airtonix | shave |
| 02:47.41 | Cide | there it went again btw |
| 02:47.46 | Cide | down for half a minute |
| 02:47.58 | Thunder_Child | and tomato goes not top of dd-wrt |
| 02:48.03 | Thunder_Child | so there goes that |
| 02:48.03 | airtonix | yeah |
| 02:48.10 | airtonix | gargoyle? |
| 02:48.18 | airtonix | same deal ? |
| 02:48.34 | Dagmar | Hmm... Sounds like the unit is malfunctioning |
| 02:48.40 | Cide | gonna unplug the router and try with direct cable and see if it's the isp |
| 02:48.43 | Cide | brb a sec |
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| 02:50.27 | Cide- | ok |
| 02:50.42 | Adys | shaves airtonix |
| 02:51.19 | Adys | Airs today (Wednesday): ... Psych |
| 02:51.20 | Adys | <3 |
| 02:51.31 | Cide- | zzz |
| 02:51.48 | Adys | go cry on your router Cide- |
| 02:51.54 | Cide- | I'd rather cry on psych |
| 02:52.08 | Adys | it's dcing because it thinks you have bad taste in series |
| 02:52.48 | Cide- | nowaii |
| 02:52.56 | Adys | hawaii! |
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| 02:57.24 | Cide- | so far so good anyway |
| 02:57.54 | foxlit | the gryphon plushie is awesome! |
| 03:00.04 | Dagmar | The pet it gives you is OP. |
| 03:00.08 | Dagmar | Too cute by half. |
| 03:00.38 | Cide- | wonderful |
| 03:00.40 | Cide- | it still happens |
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| 03:00.54 | Cide- | guess that means I don't need a new router |
| 03:00.58 | Cide- | but I do need a new isp |
| 03:01.31 | Adys | you're swedish |
| 03:01.38 | Adys | i thought it was forbidden by law to be a bad isp up there |
| 03:02.18 | Cide- | it is |
| 03:07.52 | Kraps | its cold outside |
| 03:08.20 | Kraps | very cold |
| 03:08.37 | Kraps | you could even say fucking cold |
| 03:08.47 | Thunder_Child | no, i dont have sex with cold |
| 03:09.27 | Warlocomotif | could we say that fucking cold is an oxymoron? |
| 03:11.55 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 03:12.27 | Warlocomotif | I suppose we could indeed argue that not all sex is hot |
| 03:12.28 | Warlocomotif | o_o |
| 03:16.56 | Kraps | ack i got a "Forgot Password Help" email from EA |
| 03:17.06 | Kraps | damn gawker |
| 03:18.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah fucking gawker, i cant even change my password on their sites, it lets me login but then says incorrect old password when i try to change it |
| 03:19.52 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: they said a few hours ago that you should try again |
| 03:20.56 | Arrowmaster | nope still says incorrect old password |
| 03:21.20 | Cide- | are you typing it manually or c&p? |
| 03:21.54 | Arrowmaster | manually |
| 03:22.00 | Cide- | nvm ten |
| 03:22.07 | Cide- | then |
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| 03:22.58 | DWSR | hey foxlit |
| 03:23.06 | foxlit | moo? |
| 03:23.27 | DWSR | want to make an addon that combines "player has joined channel x"? |
| 03:24.27 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
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| 03:24.41 | Kraps | derp @ blizzard http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1693170 |
| 03:24.42 | DWSR | I have players that are in several of the same chat channels as I am, and I don't need to see them join/leave 5 chat channels every time they login. |
| 03:24.51 | DWSR | Especially when they DC, so I get 5 leaves and 5 joins. |
| 03:25.18 | DWSR | Yo, Wrath of the Lich King. I'm really happy for you, and I'mma let you finish, but World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is now the fastest-selling PC game of all time. Of all time! <-- Wrath already finished. |
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| 03:26.08 | foxlit | You could just filter theh join/leave messages entirely |
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| 03:26.29 | foxlit | Having said that, I don't think I have that problem, so I'm less interested in solving it. :) |
| 03:26.32 | Kraps | logic and memes dont go together, which is partly why they're funny |
| 03:29.28 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: note, luda makes for some very good play time in beat hazard |
| 03:29.52 | Kraps | hmm |
| 03:30.11 | Kraps | i'm assuming you mean ludacris? |
| 03:30.15 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 03:31.20 | Kraps | because of the rap? |
| 03:32.17 | Thunder_Child | because he usually has a good constant beat |
| 03:33.39 | Warlocomotif | I dont like him much, but maybe thats because his lyrics are generally not very inventive |
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| 03:37.19 | foxlit | "Lifegiving Seeds can no longer be used in Battlegrounds." |
| 03:37.21 | foxlit | spoilsports. |
| 03:37.36 | Warlocomotif | what did they do? |
| 03:38.18 | Warlocomotif | as in, lifegiving seeds |
| 03:38.50 | foxlit | "Use: Disguise yourself as an herb." |
| 03:39.15 | foxlit | [also acts as food/water] |
| 03:39.30 | Warlocomotif | lol |
| 03:39.45 | Warlocomotif | that sounds like it's *made for* battlegrounds :p |
| 03:41.27 | Warlocomotif | so long as you're still targettable I dont see the problem |
| 03:44.34 | Aurorus | do you have stat caps with WoW? |
| 03:45.03 | Warlocomotif | err there's a hit cap |
| 03:45.05 | Aurorus | e.g., in LotRO, you can have a maxmimum of 650 in Might, Agility, Vitality, etc at level 65 |
| 03:45.09 | Warlocomotif | and a "crit cap" |
| 03:45.22 | Warlocomotif | but no hard caps for other stats |
| 03:45.26 | Aurorus | ahh ok, cool |
| 03:45.36 | Warlocomotif | there are a number of softcaps generally for haste |
| 03:45.39 | Aurorus | It's really weird how Turbine caps based on level |
| 03:45.42 | Warlocomotif | what class do you play? |
| 03:45.47 | Aurorus | in LotRO? |
| 03:45.51 | Warlocomotif | wow |
| 03:45.59 | Aurorus | I have a 52 priest |
| 03:46.29 | Warlocomotif | there's a number of haste soft caps which generally result in your rotation fitting together more neatly |
| 03:47.04 | Warlocomotif | for example at a certain amount of haste you might be able to exactly fit [x] mind sears inside the cooldown of a mindblast (just a random example) |
| 03:47.37 | Warlocomotif | there's also a point at which you have so much haste that you're GCD's are 1 seconds, and the gcd can not become shorter then that |
| 03:47.54 | Warlocomotif | so at that point your haste will no longer benefit your instant casts / 1.5s casts |
| 03:48.38 | Warlocomotif | does that make sense? |
| 03:48.47 | Aurorus | yep, now it does :) |
| 03:48.47 | Aurorus | ty |
| 03:51.04 | Warlocomotif | below max level however you should never expect to hit any kind of cap |
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| 03:51.57 | Warlocomotif | since you dont generally get full epic gear or such when you're below max level |
| 03:54.13 | Aurorus | yeah, same in LotRO |
| 03:54.21 | Aurorus | I mainly play in LotRO, over WoW |
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| 03:54.34 | Aurorus | with all my (nonexistent) free time :) |
| 03:55.06 | Warlocomotif | hehe |
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| 04:58.52 | sylvanaar | any of you try my lua IDE? i just made a new version which has a bunch of performance enhancements, and wanted to get some feedback |
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| 05:02.38 | KarlKFI | Ha! 10mill+ on Beat Hazard Survival Mode. |
| 05:02.40 | KarlKFI | i win |
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| 05:07.02 | KarlKFI | KarlKFI has leveled up and is now rank Elite |
| 05:08.16 | Feldar | Does anyone know how to find the location of an archaeology digsite? |
| 05:08.44 | Feldar | or even which digsites the player currently has active? |
| 05:09.17 | airtonix | http://www.drobo.com/products/drobopro-fs.php |
| 05:09.37 | Dagmar | Feldar: You just look at the world map for the little shovels |
| 05:10.01 | Feldar | I meant through the API |
| 05:10.33 | Feldar | I want to make a mod that adds them to QuestHelper2's objective list |
| 05:11.16 | Feldar | but none of the API functions seem to obviously involve dig sites |
| 05:15.02 | Mr_Rabies | Hey KarlKFI, i didn't know you still hung around these parts |
| 05:15.12 | Mr_Rabies | i rarely talk in here anymore and wouldn't expect you to remember me, but wassomp :O |
| 05:15.29 | KarlKFI | notmuch.com |
| 05:15.37 | KarlKFI | just playing steam challenges |
| 05:16.03 | KarlKFI | i could be leveling my goblin... |
| 05:16.05 | Mr_Rabies | do you still play wow and/or make addons? :O |
| 05:16.09 | Mr_Rabies | oh seems like it |
| 05:16.28 | KarlKFI | i hadnt really done much with addons for a year before cata cam eout |
| 05:16.33 | Mr_Rabies | i took a 2 year break sometime during tbc until late wrath, so i fell out of contact with a lot of folks from here |
| 05:16.36 | KarlKFI | but i've updated a few recently |
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| 05:17.28 | Mr_Rabies | i miss the old /gotocorpse days :( |
| 05:17.46 | KarlKFI | RIP AutoTravel |
| 05:18.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm surprised you didn't get a cushy job with blizzard by now :O |
| 05:19.00 | Mr_Rabies | didn't you live like, across the street or something crazy like that |
| 05:19.52 | KarlKFI | ish |
| 05:20.02 | KarlKFI | they never respond to my applications |
| 05:20.22 | KarlKFI | alex and guil work there tho |
| 05:20.35 | Mr_Rabies | they're still bitter about autotravel |
| 05:20.42 | KarlKFI | i didn't write it |
| 05:20.46 | KarlKFI | blame krka |
| 05:21.26 | Mr_Rabies | ha |
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| 05:38.04 | Kraps | whats autotravel? |
| 05:38.37 | KarlKFI | http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/file/AutoTravel;46877 |
| 05:39.26 | KarlKFI | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-576/ |
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| 05:43.02 | KarlKFI | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/12/court-you-do-not-own-that-copy-of-wow-you-bought.ars |
| 05:44.39 | Mr_Rabies | it was pretty absurd how much control addons had over wow, but awesome |
| 05:44.50 | Shirik | ok who's got a good spot to level embersilk? |
| 05:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | /gotocorpse would autorun you to your corpse pretty well generally |
| 05:45.02 | Shirik | er |
| 05:45.07 | Shirik | to farm* |
| 05:45.39 | Kraps | wow that addon is hax |
| 05:45.42 | Mr_Rabies | generally the higher level the mob the more cloth they drop, but they're also harder to kill, but outside of instances i'd say likely some of the Schnottz guys in Uldum |
| 05:46.48 | KarlKFI | was hax |
| 05:47.03 | KarlKFI | it stopped workign in v1.6 |
| 05:47.17 | KarlKFI | tho you can probably still use it with a keystroke generator |
| 05:47.20 | KarlKFI | if you hacked it |
| 05:47.40 | KarlKFI | then again, if you're generating keystrokes you're now botting and might as well use a bot |
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| 05:48.41 | KarlKFI | which, according to that ruling, violates the user agreement, but does not make you liable for copywrite infringement, unless you distribute said bot |
| 05:49.10 | KarlKFI | and the worst they can do is ban your account |
| 05:49.49 | KarlKFI | unless of course you're distributing or selling a bot, in which case you're screwed |
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| 05:53.08 | Kraps | http://www.petitiononline.com/wowmfpet/petition.html |
| 05:53.11 | Kraps | pro |
| 05:55.15 | DJJeff | did the realms just go poof? |
| 05:55.22 | DJJeff | I cant even start the launcher now |
| 05:55.42 | DJJeff | http://us.battle.net/wow/status |
| 05:55.47 | DJJeff | is timing out for me too |
| 05:55.57 | DJJeff | The server at us.battle.net is taking too long to respond. |
| 05:56.10 | Kraps | try google.com |
| 05:56.27 | DJJeff | google works |
| 05:56.40 | KarlKFI | steam is downloading at 2.7MB/s... everything's slow for me too |
| 05:57.09 | Kraps | someone hacking the internet |
| 05:57.39 | DJJeff | lol |
| 05:57.47 | DJJeff | 4chan works fine too |
| 05:57.52 | DJJeff | its just bnet |
| 05:58.51 | DJJeff | ok working now damn hicccup |
| 05:58.57 | DJJeff | the internet is drunk |
| 06:01.29 | DJJeff | 2200+ ms ping to realm |
| 06:01.30 | DJJeff | wow |
| 06:01.39 | DJJeff | stop with the gay porn battle net |
| 06:02.00 | DJJeff | 30 ms ping to google |
| 06:02.40 | Kraps | google is hacking bnet? |
| 06:03.11 | DJJeff | no |
| 06:03.13 | DJJeff | you are |
| 06:03.21 | DJJeff | its all your fault |
| 06:06.43 | Kraps | menethil harbor is flooded |
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| 06:06.54 | Kraps | your argument is invalid |
| 06:10.28 | Zhinjio | anyone know of any documented /commands for realid stuff? |
| 06:10.53 | Zhinjio | my poking around has yielded exactly nothing |
| 06:12.32 | Adys | apparently blizz hotfixed the dungeon quests ach |
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| 06:32.26 | sylvanaar | hotfixed what |
| 06:32.50 | sylvanaar | Zhinjio: what command would you want |
| 06:36.07 | Kraps | are some cutscenes not voiced? |
| 06:36.48 | Zhinjio | sylvanaar: realid broadcast |
| 06:36.54 | Zhinjio | to be very specific |
| 06:37.04 | sylvanaar | right, i have had ppl ask about that before |
| 06:37.26 | sylvanaar | thats the only one that i can think of though |
| 06:38.03 | Zhinjio | honestly, I could care less. I very rarely use it, and the key + mouseclick it takes to get me there isn't bothersome to me. But someone else asked, figured if anyone would know, it'd be someone here |
| 06:38.09 | sylvanaar | someone should make a little mod that adds slash commands for it |
| 06:38.14 | Zhinjio | yar |
| 06:38.44 | Zhinjio | in my scanning I saw something called readidclean that inferred it had some slash commands that might have been relevant, but I didn't look into it further |
| 06:39.24 | sylvanaar | you can come close with prat's alias module, i made a post somewhere once about it |
| 06:39.49 | sylvanaar | who knows where and when |
| 06:40.47 | Kraps | more hotfixes |
| 06:41.22 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1232869 |
| 06:42.33 | Kraps | Rapture's mana regeneration component has been increased from 1.5/2/2.5 to 2/4/6%. OH SWEET LIGHT |
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| 06:50.53 | Adys | heh |
| 06:50.55 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/item=18295 |
| 06:51.00 | Adys | lower ilvl than req lvl |
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| 06:54.32 | Arrowmaster | somebody forgot to change it |
| 06:54.53 | bleeter | tron legacy SPOLIER: pretty good stylisticly. not too many cliche effects, and when they are in they're executed wonderfully. bridges++, not enough boxy :( 3.5/5 |
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| 08:34.56 | Fisker | gawker wins again :( |
| 08:35.51 | airtonix | how so |
| 08:42.33 | Fisker | free advertisement airtonix |
| 08:42.54 | Shirik | Fisker loses again :) |
| 08:43.50 | Fisker | i'm on a boat Shirik |
| 08:44.14 | Shirik | You shouldn't be on a boat too long |
| 08:44.17 | Shirik | not much to kill there |
| 08:44.30 | Shirik | unless you're on an alliance boat |
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| 08:45.33 | Fisker | http://img97.imageshack.us/i/p67aud4resize.jpg/ <-how do i motherboard? |
| 08:46.12 | Fisker | wins the silliest design 2010 award |
| 08:49.19 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
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| 09:00.08 | airtonix | why |
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| 09:03.12 | Mike-N-Go | Fail. |
| 09:08.10 | Fisker | because jnwhiteh |
| 09:08.11 | airtonix | how? |
| 09:15.58 | Fisker | i was the only one who showed up for work |
| 09:16.01 | Fisker | ;( |
| 09:16.02 | Adys | Troll druids in particular, when shapeshifting into Cat/Bear form, were dealing an extra 5% damage to themselves via Beast Slaying when afflicted by Barion Ashbury's Asphyxiate. This caused them to die instead of being taken down to 1 health. This has been corrected and Asphyxiate now properly ignores damage modifiers. |
| 09:16.03 | Adys | ROFL. |
| 09:20.41 | airtonix | Fiskerism |
| 09:22.49 | aualin | Amazing stuff ^^ |
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| 09:43.12 | aualin | App engine is pretty rad |
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| 10:35.40 | mojosdojo | tekkub: Can I has some moar fuudz and drikns in Buffet? Plaese? |
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| 10:40.47 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:40.56 | haste | he'll wait your patch mojosdojo |
| 10:41.35 | haste | s/patch/pull request/ |
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| 10:43.02 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:43.24 | Fisker | amd can't computer |
| 10:43.32 | airtonix | Fisker cant irc |
| 10:43.42 | Fisker | can too :( |
| 10:43.47 | airtonix | proove it |
| 10:44.18 | airtonix | you and your amd fanboys suck |
| 10:44.51 | Fisker | i don't have any amd fanboys? |
| 10:44.58 | airtonix | in denial aye? |
| 10:45.15 | airtonix | you know that's the first step to acceptance |
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| 10:45.34 | Fisker | how is "amd can't computer" being an amd fanboy airtonix? |
| 10:45.51 | airtonix | not sure what you're talking about fisker |
| 10:51.10 | Fisker | in denial aye? |
| 10:51.19 | Fisker | you know that's the first step to acceptance |
| 10:55.08 | airtonix | :) |
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| 11:03.14 | mojosdojo | haste: https://github.com/Adirelle/Buffet |
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| 11:08.15 | cbreak | wonder why fox news still exists |
| 11:08.22 | cbreak | are americans really dumb enough to watch it? |
| 11:11.44 | aualin | Do you really have to ask? |
| 11:13.27 | aualin | I don't even know what fox news is, but even i know it's furry news |
| 11:14.05 | aualin | I'm thinking news about new fursuits |
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| 11:18.26 | haste | why are you linking me mojosdojo :p ? |
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| 11:47.04 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/12/court-you-do-not-own-that-copy-of-wow-you-bought.ars |
| 11:47.05 | cbreak | idiots. |
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| 11:59.31 | clever | cbreak: old news |
| 11:59.32 | Fisker | how so, cbreak? |
| 11:59.34 | Fisker | i'm pretty happy |
| 11:59.45 | Kalroth | Fisker: You're pretty AND happy! |
| 11:59.49 | cbreak | you're happy about killing someone... |
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| 12:01.15 | bluspacecow | fisker only kills mans not womans |
| 12:04.50 | cbreak | but really, why do those brainless judges think that blizzard has any say in how we use something we bought? |
| 12:05.26 | cbreak | next they say that StarCraft2 can only legally be used via battle.net |
| 12:05.31 | clever | cbreak: you dont own the account, characters, or gear |
| 12:05.48 | cbreak | that's normal |
| 12:05.49 | bluspacecow | what did you buy again ? |
| 12:06.25 | cbreak | the stuff on the disk |
| 12:06.35 | nebula169 | not even |
| 12:06.52 | Computerpunk | You bought rights to access their services. Which they own. |
| 12:06.55 | nebula169 | you bought access to create an account that may or may not contain information you don't own |
| 12:07.11 | cbreak | I bought the stuff on the disk. |
| 12:07.20 | nebula169 | you bought a disc |
| 12:07.22 | nebula169 | with stuff |
| 12:07.24 | bluspacecow | you paid for a DVD with a copy of their software on it and access to the servers |
| 12:07.24 | nebula169 | not the stuff on the disc |
| 12:07.25 | Computerpunk | And a cd-key. |
| 12:07.37 | cbreak | because I said: I want to buy this. And they said: Ok, pay please. |
| 12:07.49 | Computerpunk | What if we digitally bought? |
| 12:08.11 | Computerpunk | Smart judges. |
| 12:08.22 | cbreak | buying digitally is risky, they can make you accept all kinds of stupid license agreements |
| 12:08.40 | bluspacecow | then you brought the right to digitally mark your account as Cata |
| 12:08.50 | bluspacecow | erm cbreak you agree to one at each patch |
| 12:08.55 | bluspacecow | its called the EULA and TOS |
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| 12:09.18 | cbreak | but those don't apply to the stuff I originally bought |
| 12:09.30 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 12:09.33 | cbreak | because I bought it before ever seeing or agreeing to anything |
| 12:09.42 | bluspacecow | erm they kinda do as you can't play without agreeing to them ? |
| 12:09.50 | clever | cbreak: it mentions the link to the EULA on the side of the box |
| 12:09.54 | bluspacecow | then you have 30 days to return the software |
| 12:09.56 | clever | which you could visit before paying for it |
| 12:10.07 | cbreak | you can't just jump out and tell your customer: "The thing you just bought came with a license! Surprise!" |
| 12:10.51 | clever | cbreak: very top of the box |
| 12:11.01 | clever | mentions the EULA and where to read it online |
| 12:11.25 | bluspacecow | isn't that what they are doing when they present both the EULA and TOS on logging into the game ? |
| 12:11.39 | clever | bluspacecow: thats after youve paid for it |
| 12:11.44 | cbreak | the TOS is just for the service you pay for |
| 12:11.57 | cbreak | for the subscription |
| 12:12.06 | clever | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/04/26/the-lawbringer-copyrights-and-wow/ |
| 12:12.08 | cbreak | but you could easily not subscribe |
| 12:12.16 | cbreak | for example with a game like starcraft |
| 12:12.20 | clever | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/08/17/the-lawbringer-rookies-guide-to-the-eula-part-2/ |
| 12:12.22 | bluspacecow | and the top of the box tells you use of it is subject to a license |
| 12:13.27 | Fisker | shrinkwrap agreements typically can only not be enforced if you can't return the product after anyway |
| 12:13.44 | Fisker | in this case you could not only read it before purchase but deliver the product back if you didn't agree |
| 12:13.50 | cbreak | hmm. So I can return SC when I am done with it? Neat. |
| 12:13.53 | Fisker | no |
| 12:14.02 | Fisker | you can return it if you don't agree with the license |
| 12:14.06 | Fisker | playing it = you agreed |
| 12:14.12 | cbreak | I can stop agreeing. |
| 12:14.15 | bluspacecow | most places only accept returns if they're faulty or unopened |
| 12:14.22 | cbreak | I can also play without agreeing |
| 12:14.24 | bluspacecow | then wipe the game from your comptuer |
| 12:14.31 | Fisker | Yes, and then you can ask Blizzard to delete your account |
| 12:14.34 | Fisker | but that's about it |
| 12:14.44 | bluspacecow | and the terms of both documents clearly state that if you disagree you must wipe the game from your computer |
| 12:14.58 | cbreak | well, maybe not at the moment, but it should not be technically impossible to make private battle.net emulation servers for match making |
| 12:15.32 | bluspacecow | which is illegal by the agreement you signed |
| 12:15.39 | cbreak | I didn't sign anything |
| 12:15.44 | bluspacecow | blizzards already sued a few times and won over the terms of the agreement |
| 12:15.56 | bluspacecow | you agreed to it by scrolling to the end of both docs and clicking agree |
| 12:16.15 | cbreak | I would not have to do that |
| 12:16.23 | cbreak | I could just remove the check from the binary |
| 12:16.42 | bluspacecow | eletricl licenses are immisable in a court of law .. otherwise blizzard would not of won those cases |
| 12:16.42 | Fisker | Then you refused to look at the agreement |
| 12:16.57 | Fisker | closing your eyes is not a legal argument for not being bound to an agreement |
| 12:16.58 | Computerpunk | cbreak, you're not allowed to do any reverse engineering. |
| 12:17.07 | cbreak | why not? |
| 12:17.27 | clever | 'Now, the WoW EULA lists many of the protected properties that belong to Blizzard. I'll note how each of these is covered by the copyright statutes: |
| 12:17.30 | clever | computer code -- literary work |
| 12:17.31 | clever | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/04/26/the-lawbringer-copyrights-and-wow/ |
| 12:17.34 | clever | ' |
| 12:18.34 | cbreak | computer code is a literary work? |
| 12:18.44 | cbreak | makes kind of sense... |
| 12:19.19 | cbreak | I can change the literary works I buy without any issue. I made anotations to them all the time when I read books for school. |
| 12:19.34 | clever | cbreak: but can you then sell those modified copies to a friend? |
| 12:19.46 | cbreak | sure. |
| 12:19.51 | cbreak | I can sell all the books I own. |
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| 12:25.55 | Computerpunk | I like the way cbreak thinks, lol. |
| 12:35.15 | cbreak | never been to a used books store? I think there were even book buyback programs in some courses at university. |
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| 12:36.09 | clever | cbreak: thats just a few copies of each |
| 12:36.18 | clever | thats not buying 1000 copies, editing each, and reselling them for profit |
| 12:36.37 | cbreak | well... I only buy one copy. |
| 12:36.46 | cbreak | but the only difference is scale |
| 12:37.11 | clever | and if you buy one WOW then resell your modified copies, its the same as pirating movies/music |
| 12:37.15 | clever | your making massive profit:P |
| 12:37.36 | cbreak | and ... reselling books isn't for profit, the price you get is almost alway less than the original price. |
| 12:37.58 | clever | depends on if your marking the price up for your additions |
| 12:38.26 | cbreak | they aren't that insignful. |
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| 12:40.47 | bluspacecow | does the vortex pinnacle have a summon stone ? |
| 12:41.11 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Above |
| 12:41.32 | bluspacecow | on there it is ! |
| 12:41.41 | bluspacecow | dang thing hadn't spawned on my connection |
| 12:41.47 | bluspacecow | *hits stupid internet connection* |
| 12:41.51 | clever | bluspacecow: thats normaly your harddrive |
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| 12:42.02 | bluspacecow | *hits hard drive instead* |
| 12:42.19 | cbreak | I was thinking of getting solid state memory for such situations |
| 12:42.30 | cbreak | there are very cool ones as PCI-E cards |
| 12:42.35 | cbreak | but no mac drivers :( |
| 12:42.49 | clever | cbreak: ive seen one that acts like a regular sata controler |
| 12:42.55 | clever | so it doesnt need special drivers |
| 12:43.02 | cbreak | oh, using them doesn't |
| 12:43.06 | cbreak | but making them bootable does |
| 12:43.08 | bluspacecow | 29 min queue for LFD :( |
| 12:43.35 | clever | cbreak: i'm booting from a usb stick, which copies the entire os to real ram |
| 12:44.10 | cbreak | I've done that too with slax |
| 12:44.20 | cbreak | was looking at those: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid_state_drives/pci-e_solid_state_drives |
| 12:45.42 | clever | cbreak: http://www.inventgeek.com/projects/ioncooler/page3.aspx |
| 12:46.20 | cbreak | sounds useless |
| 12:46.32 | cbreak | I can just put more ram into my computer normally :) |
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| 12:46.57 | clever | its battery backed DRAM which acts as SATA drives |
| 12:47.11 | clever | aslong as the power doesnt die, it will behave like a normal SATA drive |
| 12:47.36 | cbreak | hmm. My ram disk is probably much faster than the PCI interface |
| 12:47.51 | cbreak | but not battery backed of course |
| 12:47.53 | clever | which is probly why he raid0'd the 2 cards together |
| 12:48.12 | clever | in the case of wow, you have ~25gig to store |
| 12:48.17 | clever | no way its working on a 32bit system |
| 12:48.33 | cbreak | people still use 32bit systems? |
| 12:48.56 | clever | only 2 of mine appear to be 64bit, and neither has actualy run a 64bit os yet |
| 12:49.00 | aualin | Yea, it's called laptop |
| 12:49.08 | clever | the laptop would be one of those 2 :P |
| 12:49.23 | cbreak | all my machinees are 64bit :/ |
| 12:49.33 | aualin | The other is the computer you forgot to give back after you fixed it up? |
| 12:49.34 | cbreak | the one at home, my laptop, the two at work... |
| 12:49.40 | A-KO | my netbook is my only 32-bit machine |
| 12:49.50 | cbreak | my cellphone's probably 32bit only |
| 12:50.02 | cbreak | hmm... maybe it's even 16bit. *shiver* |
| 12:50.02 | A-KO | my desktop and work laptop are 64 |
| 12:50.12 | aualin | My phone is the only 32-bit device in my house i can think of |
| 12:50.20 | clever | cbreak: ive got a pair of 8 bit computers! :P |
| 12:50.29 | cbreak | I got an 8bit wrist watch! |
| 12:50.42 | cbreak | 8bit computers, historical relics :) |
| 12:50.56 | cbreak | (I don't count my old and probably broken computers :) |
| 12:50.56 | clever | C64 |
| 12:51.11 | clever | one has a non-working power brick, but both computers work |
| 12:51.13 | cbreak | why wasn't it called C8? |
| 12:51.27 | clever | 64kb of ram max |
| 12:51.29 | clever | due to the 16 bit address bus |
| 12:51.30 | aualin | Imagine how many times more awesome 64 is |
| 12:52.30 | A-KO | hm |
| 12:58.14 | Pwntzyou | Is there a way to target someone with LUA? |
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| 12:58.36 | clever | Pwntzyou: the only idea i know of is to create a secure action button with /target foo |
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| 12:58.46 | clever | and then get the user to trigger it somehow (keybind/click) |
| 12:59.18 | Pwntzyou | Ah so it IS a protected function? :( |
| 12:59.32 | clever | yeah |
| 12:59.41 | Pwntzyou | fff |
| 12:59.46 | Pwntzyou | *thinks* |
| 13:02.10 | A-KO | You know |
| 13:02.21 | A-KO | I wonder if major wow sites are leaking e-mail addresses to their users for use |
| 13:02.37 | A-KO | I've got an e-mail addy I use to sign up on pretty much every forum, and the amount of wow phishing e-mails I have in that box is rather substantial. |
| 13:02.42 | Computerpunk | So, who was it here that had his own written IDE? |
| 13:03.13 | Kalroth | krka probably did it |
| 13:03.13 | Torhal | Computerpunk: sylvanaar |
| 13:03.30 | Computerpunk | Thanks Torhal. Any link? |
| 13:03.37 | Computerpunk | I suddenly dislike Notepad++. |
| 13:03.44 | A-KO | why Computerpunk? |
| 13:04.08 | clever | A-KO: one of those win a cata beta key sites i found, was phishing :P |
| 13:04.09 | Torhal | Computerpunk: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=18776 |
| 13:04.10 | Computerpunk | Doesn't feel fine to me, for some reason. |
| 13:04.19 | clever | ever since i signed up, ive been getting phishing emails |
| 13:04.22 | Torhal | Strangely, Google returned that as the first link for "sylvanaar lua ide" |
| 13:04.29 | A-KO | clever: I never signed up for that stuff |
| 13:04.49 | clever | i only tried one site, whcih was linked on a reputable blog |
| 13:04.55 | Computerpunk | WAIT, LOL. |
| 13:04.57 | A-KO | but it's interesting the frequency I have battle.net phishing e-mails from that address--because I would think there's a link between them knowing that somehow, I've played WoW with that address.... |
| 13:05.02 | Computerpunk | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34752 |
| 13:05.06 | Computerpunk | I just read who posted it.XD |
| 13:05.11 | Torhal | Computerpunk: :D |
| 13:05.16 | Computerpunk | Look at that. |
| 13:05.27 | Computerpunk | Saw it on WoWI and I was like: hmmm, someone on #wowuidev with IDE. |
| 13:05.31 | Computerpunk | Then I saw text being similar. |
| 13:05.34 | Computerpunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:06.10 | Torhal | Free Open Source Software Predates Old Lazy Men? |
| 13:07.30 | Computerpunk | WTB an IDE with some WoW Lua documentation. |
| 13:07.39 | Computerpunk | Probably, jnwhiteh should make one for WoWProgramming and sell it for cashies. ;D |
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| 13:10.00 | Torhal | Computerpunk: NO! U! |
| 13:10.02 | Torhal | :D |
| 13:10.04 | Torhal | sleeps. |
| 13:10.10 | Computerpunk | no u. |
| 13:15.16 | sylvanaar | mr modchips needs to stop sending me emails |
| 13:16.38 | sylvanaar | ive unsubscribed from their mailing a few times now |
| 13:17.24 | sylvanaar | click unsubscribe and see "please sign in" |
| 13:17.49 | clever | sylvanaar: the unsubscribed link usualy confirms the email is valid |
| 13:17.54 | clever | its asking for more spam:P |
| 13:18.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, i know - but i did buy something from them once like 6 years ago |
| 13:19.35 | cbreak | I started to make new e-mail addresses for each of my accounts |
| 13:20.04 | cbreak | my bank called me back, demanding an answer why my email address was theirbankname@myserver.net |
| 13:20.16 | clever | lol |
| 13:20.54 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 13:20.59 | sylvanaar | Computerpunk: if you end up trying it out, let me know if there is any lagginess while typing |
| 13:21.16 | Computerpunk | sylvanaar, added realtime parsing? |
| 13:21.21 | Computerpunk | And I will try it out. |
| 13:22.30 | sylvanaar | realtime parsing, yeah, thats been in for a while. no i just made some performance enhancements yesterday, so typing should not be laggy |
| 13:23.09 | Computerpunk | Haven't tried it before. |
| 13:23.20 | Computerpunk | So I don't know what to compare. |
| 13:23.43 | Computerpunk | But I think I'll dl an older version. |
| 13:25.04 | Computerpunk | sylvanaar, you wanna try adding some parsing for commonly used functions of WoW's API? |
| 13:26.10 | sylvanaar | i need to come up with a scheme for the base lua functions as well |
| 13:26.31 | Computerpunk | When you do, I can help on documenting. |
| 13:28.25 | sylvanaar | once you use it you'll see it only really handles lexical scoping, i dont really do anything with the globals |
| 13:28.57 | sylvanaar | i need to figure out how to supply the global functions via some text file or something |
| 13:29.03 | Computerpunk | Lemme check. |
| 13:29.40 | Computerpunk | this whole tool is laggy. |
| 13:29.41 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 13:29.50 | sylvanaar | its a big java ide |
| 13:29.51 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 13:30.17 | Fisker | i gotta pee |
| 13:30.50 | krka_ | i dont have any IDE, just a lua interactive shell |
| 13:30.54 | Computerpunk | sylvanaar, so, which other plugins do you use? |
| 13:31.46 | sylvanaar | krka_ made the interactive shell thats running in the IDE actually |
| 13:34.27 | sylvanaar | Computerpunk: idk i use mostly the plugins that come with it |
| 13:35.16 | Computerpunk | Uhm. >.> |
| 13:35.25 | Computerpunk | I meant others installed from the list of available ones? |
| 13:36.16 | sylvanaar | IntelliJAD9 |
| 13:39.06 | sylvanaar | there are so many features in intelliJ to discover, that should keep you busy |
| 13:40.42 | Computerpunk | There's something I don't like. |
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| 13:41.42 | Computerpunk | now, how do I run? |
| 13:41.43 | Computerpunk | >.> |
| 13:42.07 | sylvanaar | run what |
| 13:42.16 | Computerpunk | I feel stupid. |
| 13:42.16 | Computerpunk | The code. |
| 13:42.19 | Computerpunk | I press run. |
| 13:42.20 | sylvanaar | https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home |
| 13:42.21 | Computerpunk | Window pops up. |
| 13:42.28 | sylvanaar | and what |
| 13:42.35 | sylvanaar | does it run? lol |
| 13:42.55 | Computerpunk | I don't get the thing in the right |
| 13:42.55 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 13:43.04 | Computerpunk | not that one |
| 13:43.27 | Computerpunk | nvm |
| 13:43.28 | Computerpunk | >.> |
| 13:46.28 | Computerpunk | ok, I'm confused. |
| 13:46.32 | Computerpunk | I got Kahlua, not lua 5.1.4 |
| 13:47.14 | sylvanaar | what do you want? |
| 13:47.24 | Computerpunk | To run the executable code in main.lua |
| 13:47.24 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 13:47.31 | Computerpunk | Can't right click and do run on the file. |
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| 13:47.54 | sylvanaar | look at the pictures in the link i just gave you |
| 13:48.25 | Computerpunk | I did. |
| 13:48.29 | Computerpunk | I got Kahlua and not 5.1.4 Lua. |
| 13:48.34 | Computerpunk | As an external lib. |
| 13:48.36 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy p |
| 13:48.39 | zenzio | -p |
| 13:49.18 | sylvanaar | file/project settings |
| 13:49.29 | sylvanaar | set the sdk to Lua 5.1.4 |
| 13:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 13:53.17 | Computerpunk | no, not quite laggy |
| 13:53.58 | sylvanaar | hm? |
| 13:54.10 | sylvanaar | laggy or not laggy? |
| 13:54.45 | Computerpunk | not that much |
| 13:54.48 | Computerpunk | you can feel it. |
| 13:54.52 | sylvanaar | ok, thats good then |
| 13:54.52 | Computerpunk | but I think it's from the Java IDE. |
| 13:55.15 | Computerpunk | reminds me of Aion emu in Java. |
| 13:55.16 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 13:55.19 | sylvanaar | yeah, it has its moments |
| 13:55.49 | Computerpunk | I haven't tried it with thousands of lines of code yet. |
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| 13:57.55 | sylvanaar | it does ok for me now - it used to be quite slow with large files |
| 13:59.54 | sylvanaar | I wonder if it would be worth adding hilighting for any more language constructs |
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| 14:04.07 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:04.32 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 14:06.01 | Lunessa | When I think back on all the crap I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all. |
| 14:06.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you. |
| 14:06.21 | Lopeppeppy | That sounded like a brain sneeze from an allergic reaction to seeing the sun. |
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| 14:11.31 | DJJeff | http://www.wowhead.com/item=63040/reins-of-the-drake-of-the-north-wind |
| 14:11.36 | DJJeff | just dropped for me ^^ |
| 14:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | Look, you got a pretty pony! |
| 14:12.03 | DJJeff | 0.9% drop rate |
| 14:12.56 | zenzio | im in ur loot tabel but u hardly no it |
| 14:13.04 | Kraps | "New Deus Ex Delayed, Not Ready For Revolution" |
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| 14:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | "Waiting for someone to come and rescue it" |
| 14:14.26 | zenzio | http://www.wowhead.com/item=67282 -- I never quite trust the buyout price info on Wowhead, but if it's correct... then I learned my most expensive pet by far recently |
| 14:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, he's cute!! |
| 14:15.05 | zenzio | not that it matters much... made that same amount from quests and quest rewards so far |
| 14:15.18 | zenzio | and I keep forgetting all my companions :-( |
| 14:15.53 | Lopeppeppy | Nooo! Do not forget the companion cube! |
| 14:17.18 | zenzio | hehe |
| 14:17.28 | DJJeff | http://i.imgur.com/s1n6q.jpg |
| 14:17.31 | DJJeff | hehehehehehehehe |
| 14:17.56 | DJJeff | yaaaaaaar! |
| 14:18.13 | DJJeff | won it with an (Need - 86) |
| 14:18.16 | Kraps | whoa cool UI |
| 14:18.23 | DJJeff | hahahahahahaha |
| 14:18.27 | DJJeff | my UI is nuts |
| 14:18.40 | Kalroth | worst* |
| 14:19.39 | Cide | wc3 ripoff |
| 14:19.51 | Cide | and not a good one :( |
| 14:20.08 | DJJeff | you dont have to like it |
| 14:20.10 | DJJeff | it works for me |
| 14:20.12 | DJJeff | im happy |
| 14:22.32 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/143781/why-is-wow-so-sexist |
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| 14:26.27 | Cide | yeah Kraps |
| 14:26.30 | Cide | why is wow so sexist? |
| 14:26.34 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting discussion. |
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| 14:27.16 | Kraps | idk Cide |
| 14:27.22 | Kraps | why is wow so sexist? |
| 14:27.54 | Cide | because sexist males are sexist!!! |
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| 14:32.39 | Lunessa | I know why. Because *I* buy shit that has tits on the cover. |
| 14:33.33 | zenzio | if tits was all it took to win me over, I'd be playing about 182 different free-to-play games |
| 14:34.07 | Cide | I am |
| 14:34.12 | Cide | playing 182 different free-to-play games |
| 14:34.15 | Cide | because that's how manly I am |
| 14:35.52 | Lunessa | Cide: Just to handle your http://www.wowhead.com/item=63789 carefully. |
| 14:36.36 | Cide | oh yes |
| 14:36.37 | Kalroth | WoW is a business. Sex sells. Wow sells. WoW is sex. Wow is sexist! |
| 14:36.39 | Cide | I'll be sure to pick that up |
| 14:37.25 | Cide | that's the thing though |
| 14:37.29 | Cide | wow isn't particularly sexist in my opinion |
| 14:37.38 | Cide | sure there are exceptions but come on |
| 14:37.44 | Kalroth | Depends on your definition of sexist |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | not really |
| 14:37.54 | Kalroth | For some people you only need to show some skin to be sexist |
| 14:38.06 | Cide | that's called being retarded |
| 14:38.14 | Kalroth | your point being?! |
| 14:38.18 | Cide | and wrong for that matter |
| 14:38.19 | Computerpunk | 5 |
| 14:38.20 | Computerpunk | 4 |
| 14:38.21 | Computerpunk | 3 |
| 14:38.22 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 14:39.03 | Kalroth | the complaint is this: |
| 14:39.04 | Kalroth | "In the new main storyline we are introduced to a goblin male who uses chemicals on women to make them "fall in love" with him. " |
| 14:39.13 | Kalroth | "I was appalled that Blizzard found it appropriate to use a serious criminal offense, %!##, in one of their storylines and to treat it so light-hearted." |
| 14:39.41 | Cide | pretty sure love potions are not illegal, just made up |
| 14:39.45 | Kalroth | so apparently Blizzard should treat roofies with respect and punish the goblin |
| 14:40.04 | Kalroth | It is not love potions, stop living in this fantasy world and wake up!! |
| 14:40.18 | Cide | it says so right there |
| 14:40.19 | Kraps | Cide: make sure you rub some http://www.wowhead.com/item=56850 on your staff |
| 14:40.21 | Cide | "fall in love" |
| 14:40.36 | Kalroth | Roofies got the same effect, with the extra effect of falling asleep too |
| 14:40.43 | zenzio | Kalroth: sounds like the "zomg torture"-complaints about WotLK |
| 14:41.04 | Cide | it doesn't have the same effect |
| 14:41.11 | Cide | falling asleep and falling in love are two quite separate things |
| 14:41.31 | Kalroth | not if it happens at the same time |
| 14:41.40 | Cide | they don't |
| 14:41.44 | Kalroth | how do you know |
| 14:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | sighs. |
| 14:41.53 | Cide | one is unable to love while being asleep, true story |
| 14:42.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy, go back to dissing mounts and each others UIs. |
| 14:42.08 | Kalroth | Cidan: I don't believe you |
| 14:42.21 | Cide | Lopeppeppy: why? |
| 14:42.35 | Kalroth | Because we're sexist when we discuss sexism! |
| 14:42.50 | Cide | even if that was true I can be sexist however much I want |
| 14:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | Because perhaps without meaning it, you're being offensive. |
| 14:43.06 | Ackis | so pallys got nerfed and priests got buffed |
| 14:43.08 | Cide | how am I being offensive? |
| 14:43.21 | Ackis | you're always offensive Cide |
| 14:43.36 | Cide | no, that's hyperbole |
| 14:43.40 | Kalroth | Cide: We're back to what I said to begin with; the definition of being sexist differs a lot from person to person |
| 14:43.46 | Kraps | yeah cide, you need some defense sometimes |
| 14:43.56 | Kalroth | And some midfield play as well |
| 14:44.00 | Cide | just explain how I was being offensive |
| 14:44.05 | Cide | because I can't see it |
| 14:44.07 | Kraps | pitching wins games you know |
| 14:44.17 | Kalroth | passing the ball wins games |
| 14:44.28 | Cide | yes yes, good analogies |
| 14:44.30 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19006-MinimalArchaeology.html <- neat. |
| 14:44.31 | Cide | explanation, go |
| 14:44.53 | Kraps | we need a timeout |
| 14:45.00 | Kalroth | Cide: You're (we are!) being offensive because the subject is offensive to some people |
| 14:45.01 | Cide | just an explanation really |
| 14:45.11 | Kraps | theres a player down |
| 14:45.16 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks for keeping it in the group-we, Kalroth. |
| 14:45.16 | Cide | talking about an offensive subject is not offensive |
| 14:45.37 | Cide | talking about things is the best way to sort things out |
| 14:45.38 | Kalroth | Cide: Again, that is a matter of definition. :) |
| 14:45.54 | Cide | that's a matter of sensitivity which I could understand being offensive to some people |
| 14:46.11 | Cide | for which I'm sorry Lopeppeppy |
| 14:46.13 | Kalroth | Sure, some people are overly sensitive |
| 14:46.30 | Ackis | amg my spirit regen got buffed!!!!!! |
| 14:46.42 | Pwntzyou | I am writing this polymorph mod... is there a way without listening for the next damaging hit to see who broke your polymorph? |
| 14:46.54 | Cide | I don't think that warrants not talking about it though |
| 14:46.56 | Lopeppeppy | For which I can apologize too, Kalroth. Touchy topics in big channels often get... wild very quickly. |
| 14:46.57 | Kalroth | Pwntzyou: I don't believe so. |
| 14:47.02 | Kraps | Ackis: rapture got buffed! |
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| 14:47.17 | Pwntzyou | Ah that is a shame... it feels like so much can go wrong by simply listening for the next hit |
| 14:47.20 | Ackis | Kraps: and holy concentration... so both holy and disc had their mana regen buffed |
| 14:47.47 | Kalroth | Lopeppeppy: No need to apologize, not to me at least. It is usually safe to assume that I'm an asshole on purpose. :) |
| 14:48.00 | Kraps | wow has "Blood and Gore, Crude Humor, Mild Language, Suggestive Themes, Use of Alcohol, Violence" |
| 14:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, assumption noted. *poke* |
| 14:48.20 | Cide | maybe this may seem rude but if a subject is not overly sensitive to the majority of the people I don't consider it worth not discussing |
| 14:48.34 | Kalroth | And in English? :) |
| 14:49.01 | Cide | but perhaps worth not listening to for the individual people |
| 14:49.02 | Cide | then again, widespread sensitivity should be countered too |
| 14:49.02 | Cide | (by talking about it) |
| 14:49.16 | Cide | FUCK MY INTERNET CONNECTION |
| 14:49.39 | Cide | 5 minute fight with Ragemane and at 10% hp I lag for half a minute and end up dead |
| 14:49.46 | Kraps | cide isnt sensitive to his internet connection |
| 14:49.54 | Kalroth | you're the worst player ever, Cide |
| 14:49.56 | Cide | funny |
| 14:50.01 | Kalroth | didnt you use to raid and be cool once?! |
| 14:50.16 | Cide | still am cool |
| 14:50.22 | Kalroth | nuh uh |
| 14:50.31 | Cide | and um |
| 14:50.34 | Cide | where the fuck is my corpse |
| 14:50.42 | Kalroth | you're terribad |
| 14:50.51 | Cide | it's not showing up on the map or minimap |
| 14:50.55 | Cide | and I can't resurrect where I died |
| 14:51.22 | Lopeppeppy | I remember those kinds of lag-deaths back in Molten Core, I always had to res at the spirit healer, which sucks it. |
| 14:51.29 | Kalroth | Cidan: on a scale from Fisker to Kungen, you're very Fisker right now |
| 14:51.39 | Cide | I'm not trolling anyone nor am I awful |
| 14:51.51 | Kraps | whats wrong with being fisker? |
| 14:52.07 | Cide | Fisker |
| 14:52.11 | Kraps | fisker is the greatest Swede ever |
| 14:52.15 | Cide | he's not swedish |
| 14:52.54 | Kraps | hes from the northern part of europe |
| 14:53.01 | Kraps | swedish |
| 14:53.49 | Zyn | danes doesn't count as people |
| 14:54.17 | Cide | OH COME ON |
| 14:54.34 | Thunder_Child | and Fisker is a bad troll |
| 14:54.39 | Cide | if I die again |
| 14:54.41 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 14:54.42 | Cide | I'll stab a kitten |
| 14:54.51 | Cide | AND I DID |
| 14:54.54 | Cide | FUCK THIS INTERNET CONNECTION |
| 14:54.56 | Cide | FIVE PERCENT |
| 14:55.13 | Kalroth | Why the heck are you using Tele2? |
| 14:55.21 | Cide | because I am forced to |
| 14:55.29 | Kalroth | You live in Sweden, don't lie to me. |
| 14:55.52 | Cide | I live in a student apartment |
| 14:55.52 | Ackis | laughs at Cide's "internet" connection |
| 14:55.59 | Ackis | I get faster on my phone |
| 14:56.00 | Ackis | muahhahaha |
| 14:56.03 | Kalroth | So get BBB! |
| 14:56.06 | Cide | no you don't |
| 14:56.08 | Cide | you just get more reliable |
| 14:56.25 | Cide | Kalroth: then I would have to pay vastly more than I already do, since tele2's fee is included in the rent |
| 14:57.17 | Kalroth | So you're complaning about a free internet connection :) |
| 14:57.22 | Cide | it's not free |
| 14:57.29 | zenzio | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/sinfest_20101212_war_crimes.gif |
| 14:57.38 | Cide | I just can't opt out |
| 14:58.14 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wYNFfgrXTI#t=4m05s |
| 14:58.40 | Cide | third 5 minute slice is the fucking charm |
| 14:58.45 | Cide | good reliability tele2 |
| 15:00.35 | Kraps | zenzio: meh |
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| 15:03.18 | Kraps | lucy is a jerk http://comics.com/zoom/344554/ |
| 15:04.15 | mojosdojo | haste: for your information^^ |
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| 15:11.06 | ZorbaBeta | ugh I hope there's a way to block guild invite spam |
| 15:11.55 | smcn | ZorbaBeta: there's a "decline guild invites" option in interface options |
| 15:12.25 | Ackis | ginvites ZorbaBeta |
| 15:12.35 | foxlit | ginvites ZorbaBeta |
| 15:12.40 | foxlit | then proceeds to gkick. |
| 15:13.01 | ZorbaBeta | smcn, dammit, how did I miss that |
| 15:13.02 | ZorbaBeta | thanks :D |
| 15:13.09 | Kalroth | invites ZorbaBeta to his g-spot |
| 15:13.15 | smcn | ginvites ZorbaBeta then promotes to gm and drops guild, haha it's your responsibility now sucka! |
| 15:13.21 | ZorbaBeta | woot free guild |
| 15:13.22 | smcn | ZorbaBeta: np :) |
| 15:13.25 | ZorbaBeta | raids the guild bank |
| 15:13.50 | ZorbaBeta | I've been vaguely considering accepting, then saying "I'm only here to raid your guild bank, if you don't boot me I'll assume you're okay with that" |
| 15:14.04 | ZorbaBeta | and then after five or ten minutes go steal everything that's not nailed down and leave |
| 15:14.14 | smcn | lol |
| 15:14.23 | ZorbaBeta | I wonder if the GMs would object |
| 15:14.43 | smcn | hard to say |
| 15:15.01 | amro | ZorbaBeta: I'd get a claw hammer and steal everything |
| 15:15.12 | smcn | on one hand, if you give the lowest rank GB access you're pretty much inviting it |
| 15:15.22 | smcn | on the other hand, blizz seems pretty lax when it comes to giving stuff back |
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| 15:15.46 | ZorbaBeta | whee disconnect |
| 15:16.36 | smcn | maybe they'd give the stuff back to the guild without taking it from you :P (something similar happened when one of my officers accounts was compromised, we ended up doubling what we had in the bank including gold) |
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| 15:20.15 | Kraps | FBI Alleged To Have Backdoored OpenBSD's IPSEC Stack |
| 15:21.39 | Cide | I'll backdoor your stack |
| 15:21.40 | Pertheria | so why not just patch it and point and laugh at the fbi |
| 15:22.38 | foxlit | because how do you know what to patch? |
| 15:22.50 | foxlit | "Oh hey guys, rewrite the entire thing!" |
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| 15:27.22 | Ackis | apparently 3 out of every 1000 men can fellate themselves. |
| 15:27.26 | Pertheria | if it happened back in 2000 and 2001, go look at the svn logs from then for the people accused, and see what they committed |
| 15:27.35 | Cide | are you two of them Ackis? |
| 15:27.37 | Pertheria | ackis -- did you individually verify this claim? |
| 15:27.45 | Ackis | nope :( |
| 15:27.58 | foxlit | Pertheria: you're just looking for /* BEGIN FBI BACKDOOR */, then? |
| 15:28.00 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/#!/OMGFactsSex/status/14867244718759936 |
| 15:28.33 | Pertheria | foxlit - no.. if you have a list of the people who supposedly did the changes, you can audit their work? |
| 15:28.36 | Pwntzyou | Is there a way to see the remaining time on an aura through the unfiltered combat log apply aura event |
| 15:29.06 | foxlit | Pertheria: if you have list of people who've designed and implemented a new feature with a supposed backdoor, you're just looking at auditing all of their code |
| 15:29.09 | nevcairiel | not that i know if |
| 15:29.29 | Pertheria | pretty much |
| 15:29.29 | foxlit | If the size of that code is non-trivial, good luck to you. It's hard to spot bad things in C, and it's even harder to spot bad things in cryptography. |
| 15:30.14 | Pertheria | and maybe thats why the claim was made, to get the 'leaker' more aclaim, knowing it would be nearly impossible to find |
| 15:31.33 | Cide | and this is why free software is good guys |
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| 15:33.08 | Warlocomotif | what kind of backdoor is it meant to be |
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| 15:35.39 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xc5wIpUenQ |
| 15:36.00 | Ackis | happy birthday EthanCentaurai |
| 15:36.41 | EthanCentaurai | thanks Ackis :) |
| 15:37.35 | foxlit | http://dresdencodak.com/2010/12/15/spike-guest-comic/ |
| 15:37.42 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QYkrp44us |
| 15:41.41 | zenzelezz | so... I'm guessing Blizzard changed something about the "X Dungeon Quests" achievements... either that, or someone logged onto my account while I was at work and did 20 of the quests |
| 15:42.08 | nevcairiel | blizzard fixed it |
| 15:42.52 | A-KO | so, what's the gem of choice for resto druids atm? |
| 15:43.06 | foxlit | honestly, gem strength |
| 15:43.11 | A-KO | awesome |
| 15:43.13 | foxlit | If you can't figure out what you want, that is. |
| 15:43.30 | nevcairiel | Its really a non-issue what to gem though |
| 15:43.57 | haste | ,want |
| 15:44.00 | foxlit | You can also gem to match socket bonuses, which seem to be nice now. |
| 15:44.00 | haste | mikma: ^ |
| 15:44.39 | nevcairiel | I only gem to match when the bonus is greater 10 stats per gem slot |
| 15:44.42 | mikma | haste: yeah, i want ufoporno too |
| 15:45.25 | nevcairiel | or when the bonus is int |
| 15:45.41 | nevcairiel | Because i would sacrifice int for the match anyway |
| 15:46.52 | foxlit | But from where I'm standing, things seem equally crappy now |
| 15:47.26 | foxlit | Gemming pure int might give you some more mana and a bit more spellpower, but that won't make your heals hit significantly harder or your mana pool significantly bigger. |
| 15:48.23 | nevcairiel | by that logic, gems always were crap |
| 15:48.29 | sylvanaar_work | on beta it was int > spi > hast/crit > mastery |
| 15:48.47 | Pwntzyou | Can anyone point me in the right direction as to getting the remaining times on auras / debuffs (when they are on another player/npc |
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| 15:48.50 | Pwntzyou | I have the GUID |
| 15:48.52 | nevcairiel | int > spi/haste > crit/mastery |
| 15:48.53 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 15:49.43 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, thats basically what I have now |
| 15:50.08 | nevcairiel | Although haste has the disadvantage that while it increases your throughput, it also increases mana cost |
| 15:50.12 | nevcairiel | crit and mastery dont do that |
| 15:50.17 | nevcairiel | which might be an issue in the first tier |
| 15:50.49 | sylvanaar_work | i have enough haste for 5 rejuv tics unbuffed |
| 15:51.24 | sylvanaar_work | im not sure if thats really necessary |
| 15:51.35 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: how much haste is needed for that? |
| 15:51.43 | sylvanaar_work | slightly over 12% |
| 15:52.09 | sylvanaar_work | i have a trinket i swap in if i want the 5 tic rejuv |
| 15:52.20 | sylvanaar_work | otherwise i use the egg |
| 15:52.33 | nevcairiel | th egg is weird |
| 15:53.20 | sylvanaar_work | its alot of mana |
| 15:53.39 | sylvanaar_work | its like a 2nd innervate |
| 15:53.44 | sylvanaar_work | small |
| 15:54.10 | sylvanaar_work | i just put it on myself whenver it is up |
| 15:54.30 | nevcairiel | in the raid fights i've seen so far, there is constantly some kind of dmg coming, so you cant use the shield much |
| 15:54.36 | nevcairiel | only the one-time hit |
| 15:54.46 | ZorbaBeta | god what I'd give for aoe looting |
| 15:54.52 | foxlit | "nevcairiel: by that logic, gems always were crap" << some more crap than others, I'd contend -- since stuff like spirit was just irrelevant |
| 15:54.58 | sylvanaar_work | still thats 5k mana |
| 15:55.06 | nevcairiel | thats one cast |
| 15:55.43 | nevcairiel | I dunno, i think a high-int trinket is better for me |
| 15:55.49 | ZorbaBeta | nev, it's only one cast if you discount the regeneration you get during that cast |
| 15:55.56 | sylvanaar_work | like the darkmoon trinket |
| 15:55.59 | Cide | some team on my battlegroup is exploiting wsg hilariously |
| 15:56.02 | sylvanaar_work | that thing is sexy |
| 15:56.13 | Cide | they have a bot on alliance side that automatically picks up the horde flag and then does nothing |
| 15:56.14 | nevcairiel | ZorbaBeta: so its one and a quarter cast, big deal :P |
| 15:56.33 | Cide | and then the horde side swoops in with 10 people and grabs the alliance flag and brings it back, kills the bot and caps |
| 15:57.51 | foxlit | BoP the flagbearer. |
| 15:58.55 | Cide | not a bad idea |
| 15:58.57 | Cide | still hilarious though |
| 15:59.29 | sylvanaar_work | on wowhead they say the shield from the egg is worth 210 MP5 or 455 spirit |
| 15:59.45 | Lunessa | It's 7 working days before a vacation break if I make it that far without slaughtering people in my office, it will be a freaking x-mas miracle. |
| 16:00.01 | nevcairiel | if i could keep the shield up its 30s, it might be better |
| 16:00.06 | nevcairiel | but 30s without 5000 dmg |
| 16:00.07 | nevcairiel | in raids? |
| 16:00.08 | sylvanaar_work | if the shield doesnt break its worth 910 spirit |
| 16:00.08 | nevcairiel | no way |
| 16:00.46 | nevcairiel | I'm happy to find 10s of peace and quiet where i can drink my potion of concentration |
| 16:00.47 | Cide | nowaii |
| 16:01.06 | foxlit | That's harder, nev |
| 16:01.23 | foxlit | Since your requirements are for 5+ people tp not be in any danger for the next 10s |
| 16:01.36 | nevcairiel | works on magmaw and the wind dudes |
| 16:01.43 | nevcairiel | not so much on omnitron or halfus |
| 16:06.06 | foxlit | "Then, with the same Mr. Honestly-I'm-not-a-%%!!-this-moustache-is-just-stylish having cornered me and Harrison, with the aid of two drakes, I have to get rescued by Brann, who... does something, not sure exactly what, because the cutscene bugged out on me. " |
| 16:06.16 | foxlit | Oddly enough, that cutscene bugged out on me too :( |
| 16:08.29 | nevcairiel | i saw that one |
| 16:11.34 | olafski | I saw that thread too |
| 16:11.48 | olafski | person sounded like they thought they're really clever for noticing that the guy was based on some nazi |
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| 16:12.36 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
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| 16:18.12 | olafski | don't master transmuters get bonus volatiles when transmuting? I have done the volatile transmute thingy and got 14-16 volatile air every time +( |
| 16:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | is it a random proc bonus? |
| 16:19.09 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hi, Fisker. |
| 16:19.38 | Lopeppeppy | I told someone earlier that sometimes I love you. I hope you won't take that poorly. |
| 16:22.22 | Fisker | :O |
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| 16:23.10 | Lopeppeppy | I was hoping for a \o/, ya know. *poke* |
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| 16:25.26 | Fisker | \o. |
| 16:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | the one armed fisker |
| 16:29.33 | Cide | hi |
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| 16:34.09 | foxlit | How fast are azerothian taxi gryphons anyway? |
| 16:34.29 | foxlit | Just pondering wheter it makes sense to auto-fly to get from one of the continent to the other |
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| 16:35.44 | Computerpunk | foxlit, gryphons are at 510% |
| 16:35.51 | Pwntzyou | Is there a way for me to turn on lua errors for my own addons |
| 16:35.54 | Computerpunk | Master flying is 310 (351 with perk) |
| 16:36.14 | Computerpunk | Pwntzyou, Menu -> Interface -> Help |
| 16:36.40 | Pwntzyou | tttttty |
| 16:36.59 | Computerpunk | No problem. |
| 16:38.00 | Pwntzyou | And also, is there a way I can replicate the mage / hunter / warlock popup meu UI |
| 16:38.04 | Pwntzyou | menu* |
| 16:38.11 | Pwntzyou | using some class blizzard hsa |
| 16:38.12 | Pwntzyou | has* |
| 16:40.11 | sylvanaar_work | this is the cat channel right: |
| 16:40.14 | sylvanaar_work | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cat_vs_internet |
| 16:41.25 | foxlit | Computerpunk: does the perk work on druids, I wonder |
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| 16:43.29 | Computerpunk | foxlit, it does. |
| 16:44.06 | A-KO | holy god pricing for shit on my realm is skyhigh |
| 16:44.13 | A-KO | "Ember Shadowspirit Diamond" right now cheapest is 1450g |
| 16:44.29 | Computerpunk | Wait, foxlit, :o |
| 16:44.30 | Computerpunk | Seems not. |
| 16:44.34 | Computerpunk | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=40121 |
| 16:44.37 | TC-Work | huh, Danny Elfman did the soundtrack to the simpsons. i am amused. |
| 16:44.54 | Computerpunk | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=59569 |
| 16:45.02 | Computerpunk | One is a mount, one is the swift flight. |
| 16:45.14 | Computerpunk | Mounted is a generic version of Mod Speed Mounted |
| 16:46.07 | Computerpunk | that means it scales with currently known riding. |
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| 16:52.50 | Cairenn | Ya know, normally I don't condone violence, but there are some people in the world that simply need to be beaten within an inch of their lives - there's a new 'prank call joke' going on around here. Some 'people' (I'm being kind calling them people) are calling up military families and telling them that their loved ones have been killed over in Afghanistan. |
| 16:54.40 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Big stick of beating ASS needs to come out. |
| 16:54.59 | Lopeppeppy | Prince Albert in a can is funny. |
| 16:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | That's not. |
| 16:55.08 | Cairenn | yeah, exactly |
| 16:56.04 | Lunessa | That's not just a prank, that's unmitigated evil. |
| 16:58.32 | Cairenn | and on that cheery note, I'm off to get some sleep |
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| 17:10.22 | nicoli_s | its morning time, you shouldnt be sleeping now |
| 17:10.27 | nicoli_s | will throw of your circadan rythym |
| 17:11.07 | ckknight | nicoli_s: aren't you supposed to be on vacation? |
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| 17:12.37 | Warlocomotif | does "clever" ever talk here? |
| 17:12.47 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 17:13.41 | Warlocomotif | does he usually put afk or such in his name when he's afk? |
| 17:15.11 | zenzelezz | don't think so |
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| 17:16.11 | Warlocomotif | ok ty |
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| 17:16.24 | nicoli_s | ckknight:im sick at home |
| 17:16.30 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 17:16.34 | nicoli_s | but working from here, got to get a push of sc2r out |
| 17:16.43 | ckknight | unacceptable, go on vacation. |
| 17:16.48 | nicoli_s | i wish |
| 17:16.50 | ckknight | :P |
| 17:17.09 | nicoli_s | but if blizz drops a new sc2 patch, then sc2r is rendered useless and i def dont want to have to wait till jan to get a patch out |
| 17:17.20 | Pwntzyou | :3 how can I make my character talk via lua? |
| 17:17.38 | mikma | haste: hohohohooo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7amVSYA3l9s&hd=1 |
| 17:17.58 | sylvanaar_work | . /silly |
| 17:18.54 | haste | !api SendChatMessage |
| 17:18.55 | lua_bot | SendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage) |
| 17:19.12 | sylvanaar_work | talk? i read that as /silly |
| 17:19.12 | Pwntzyou | ty |
| 17:19.19 | Pwntzyou | wait... I got bested by a bot |
| 17:19.20 | Pwntzyou | Y_Y |
| 17:20.04 | zenzelezz | sylvanaar_work: you must have some interesting conversations |
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| 17:20.36 | sylvanaar_work | the character does talk when you /silly |
| 17:20.40 | ZorbaBeta | god I wish there were a good tanking ranged weapon |
| 17:21.19 | Warlocomotif | why? they provide only such mediocre stat increases o_o |
| 17:21.37 | sylvanaar_work | average item level? |
| 17:22.38 | Warlocomotif | lol >_< |
| 17:22.58 | ZorbaBeta | ilvl, yep |
| 17:23.03 | ZorbaBeta | plus I feel kind of dumb with an ilvl245 purple |
| 17:23.04 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrH5uj8kHU&hd=1 |
| 17:23.31 | haste | youtube is too realplayer today mikma |
| 17:23.41 | Warlocomotif | whats worse is that the ilvl 200 purple was probably better :( |
| 17:23.47 | mikma | stop being so emo, haste |
| 17:23.58 | ZorbaBeta | I dunno, the extra stamina will be nice |
| 17:24.06 | ZorbaBeta | and it's hit/mastery or something kind of ambiguously okay for tanking |
| 17:25.05 | haste | it's youtube who is emo mikma |
| 17:25.22 | mikma | emotube.com |
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| 17:26.33 | Amarande | So the days of having an Arcanite Dragonling companion that you actually use are apparently over, unless you spend thousands on the AH? |
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| 17:26.54 | Lopeppeppy | You can't farm the materials anymore, you're saying? |
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| 17:27.05 | Amarande | Peppy: not the mats |
| 17:27.19 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out if there even is the ability to get the pattern at-level except via AH now |
| 17:27.41 | Amarande | since folks on wowhead are suspecting that now it can only be obtained through the wormhole vendor (which you can't personally have a chance to reach until well past the level at which the dragonling is useful) |
| 17:28.52 | Amarande | also, speaking of professions, people are finding that tailoring in cata is a disaster. |
| 17:29.09 | Amarande | I wonder if there will even be any epic tailoring pieces that can actually get sold now before T12 at the soonest |
| 17:29.26 | zenzelezz | "disaster" how? |
| 17:29.30 | Amarande | zenzelezz: Dreamcloth. |
| 17:29.33 | Amarande | Full week cooldown AND BOP. |
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| 17:29.45 | Amarande | And it's also the CURRENCY for epic tailoring patterns, which I'm presuming require it, and probably not just one. |
| 17:29.46 | ZorbaBeta | but you can make six every week |
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| 17:30.06 | ZorbaBeta | and you only need five to buy *every recipe* |
| 17:30.21 | ZorbaBeta | and even the most expensive recipe costs six |
| 17:30.37 | ZorbaBeta | that's two weeks for the first item, assuming you find it mandatory to buy all the recipes and you decide to get the biggest priciest thing first |
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| 17:30.50 | ZorbaBeta | oh wait most expensive recipe is eight |
| 17:30.55 | ZorbaBeta | still, that's not much worse |
| 17:30.57 | Amarande | My thought was that by the time any such items actually might appear on the AH or for trade, people will have gear good enough that it won't be worth the cost |
| 17:31.10 | mikma | haste: http://www.orsm.net/images/global-temperature-forecast.jpg |
| 17:31.15 | ZorbaBeta | the belts and spellthread will have already appeared on the AH |
| 17:31.18 | Amarande | thus, the dreamcloth CD will cause tailoring sales to be dampened until T12, when they won't have that hind start |
| 17:31.24 | ZorbaBeta | the pants will show up this week |
| 17:31.34 | ZorbaBeta | as in, two days ago |
| 17:31.36 | ZorbaBeta | it's not much of an issue |
| 17:31.46 | Amarande | however, it seems like the mats for tailoring are ludicrous now in general |
| 17:31.48 | Amarande | same with LW |
| 17:31.49 | haste | D: |
| 17:31.56 | Amarande | you know what's weird? BS actually seems to be relatively *sane* now |
| 17:32.12 | Amarande | after years of being the Scrappy for mats requirements |
| 17:32.26 | ZorbaBeta | I should probably level mine up at some point |
| 17:32.33 | zenzelezz | BS is BS to level in Cataclysm |
| 17:32.46 | zenzelezz | need a lot of obsidium, and you're past obsidium zones so fast |
| 17:32.54 | Amarande | for instance a 333 green (which should, apparently, really have been a blue based on its stats), only 14 elementium bars |
| 17:32.54 | ZorbaBeta | hey, look at that, they're already selling the breeches of mended nightmares on my AH |
| 17:32.55 | zenzelezz | got elementium all over my bank |
| 17:33.08 | ZorbaBeta | and four dreamless belts |
| 17:33.20 | Amarande | Zorba: btw, do you think they'll ever change it so it's the equipped ilvl and not what you have in your bags that counts for heroics? |
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| 17:33.27 | ZorbaBeta | and both spellthreads |
| 17:33.40 | ZorbaBeta | amarande, I doubt it, that wouldn't really change much |
| 17:33.44 | ZorbaBeta | it would just be an irritation to people |
| 17:33.58 | ZorbaBeta | I'd just queue up wearing some wacky cloth and mail on my prot warrior, then switch to my real gear once I got in :D |
| 17:35.28 | Kraps | "Iâm not trying to bash pugs here, but I am amazed at how often a nuker will pick a random target instead of the one being tanked, then blame the tank for not holding aggro (and then blame the healer when they die)." |
| 17:35.48 | Jamash | l2mark |
| 17:35.52 | Kraps | GC, you are a terrible, awesome person |
| 17:35.56 | nevcairiel | that doesnt help Jamash |
| 17:36.02 | Jamash | yes it does |
| 17:36.09 | ZorbaBeta | no it doesn't |
| 17:36.16 | ZorbaBeta | I had to teach some pugs what the marks meant |
| 17:36.30 | ZorbaBeta | even after doing that, they didn't pay attention |
| 17:36.51 | Kraps | ZorbaBeta: there was a thread on that: what does moon mean? |
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| 17:37.01 | ZorbaBeta | it means you should moon the monster |
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| 17:37.04 | ZorbaBeta | unequip pants immediately! |
| 17:37.09 | Kraps | :p |
| 17:37.12 | nevcairiel | why would moon be sheep |
| 17:37.18 | nevcairiel | we always use the blue one for that |
| 17:37.21 | nevcairiel | the square |
| 17:37.24 | ZorbaBeta | honestly it's usually sheep, but I'd just consider it to be "someone CC this" |
| 17:37.27 | Jamash | well, other than skull or X none of the targets have any common meaning that I'm aware of |
| 17:37.36 | ZorbaBeta | i was running with a competent group and would literally say "hey, guys, CC stuff, I'm about to pull" |
| 17:37.45 | nevcairiel | back in BC days, we didnt use skull |
| 17:37.47 | Jamash | you have to define your icons in a pug |
| 17:37.48 | nevcairiel | star was first target |
| 17:37.48 | ZorbaBeta | and then they'd CC like the entire pull and I was like, dammit guys, CC less next time |
| 17:37.50 | nevcairiel | sun second |
| 17:37.53 | Kraps | i learned moon = sheep, star = sap |
| 17:37.55 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 17:38.11 | ZorbaBeta | kraps, that's what I learned too |
| 17:38.15 | Jamash | square is ice trap because it's blue |
| 17:38.22 | Kraps | yeah |
| 17:38.23 | Jamash | *freezing trap |
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| 17:39.02 | Kraps | but all this could vary depending an the classes available |
| 17:39.06 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:39.13 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1693171 |
| 17:39.27 | Jamash | the only common definitions I know are skull for focus fire and x for focus fire after skull dies |
| 17:39.41 | Kraps | ^ |
| 17:40.42 | Kraps | Greg âGhostcrawlerâ Street is the lead systems designer for World of Warcraft and the skipper of a very nice ship where they serve cute sandwiches with the crust removed. And gin. |
| 17:41.44 | Jamash | I wish hunters had a baseline interrupt |
| 17:43.17 | Jamash | I also wish they'd expand the pet bar to 12 |
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| 17:44.52 | Kraps | i wish for a white Christmas |
| 17:45.00 | Kraps | i mean i would |
| 17:45.08 | Kraps | but i'm jewish |
| 17:45.48 | Jamash | you can have some of my snow |
| 17:45.58 | nevcairiel | we have some extra snow as well |
| 17:47.00 | sylvanaar_work | we have sleet |
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| 17:47.09 | Kraps | well that wasnt nice |
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| 17:47.24 | sylvanaar_work | what |
| 17:47.45 | Kraps | dcing |
| 17:48.28 | olafski | <Lopeppeppy> is it a random proc bonus? <-- yes, but some blue said that with the elemental transmute, masters would _always_ get something (something random, but still something) |
| 17:49.18 | Kraps | olafski: depending on the zone you're in |
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| 17:53.05 | Kraps | "Disc healing is like sex: The other party might not notice you doing anything, but you still like it." |
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| 17:53.54 | Ackis | your mom noticed Kraps |
| 17:54.20 | zenzelezz | Kraps: and shielding is important |
| 17:55.11 | Ackis | especially with his mom |
| 17:55.15 | Ackis | ZING |
| 17:55.16 | Ackis | :) |
| 17:55.16 | Kraps | pain suppression might be needed |
| 17:55.30 | Kraps | Ackis: your mom your mom |
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| 17:57.58 | olafski | kraps: what normal alchemists get depends on the zone.. what transmute masters get too, but they should also get something random with it |
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| 17:58.54 | zenzelezz | so you're saying transmuters are irregular? |
| 17:58.56 | olafski | ( http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2109-EU-Downtime-Transmute-Living-Elements-Blue-Posts-MMO-Report-Fan-Arts ) |
| 18:02.01 | foxlit | Hm, so I upgraded my graphics card |
| 18:02.04 | foxlit | And wow ate my WTF files |
| 18:02.14 | foxlit | Some of the default settings are really, really lame :( |
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| 18:09.09 | Fisker | no meeting stone for bastion of twilight? |
| 18:12.23 | Fisker | rage |
| 18:13.02 | nevcairiel | nop |
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| 18:17.54 | Kraps | EJ threads are amazing |
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| 18:20.30 | foxlit | I took a flight path and went afk |
| 18:20.44 | foxlit | I returned to find myself dead in the middle of a massive firestorm :( |
| 18:21.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:21.49 | Ackis | did you stand in the fire? |
| 18:22.17 | nevcairiel | deathwing kills you even when on a taxi, eh |
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| 18:23.48 | Ackis | no |
| 18:24.17 | Warloco | o/ |
| 18:24.26 | Ackis | I got hit while on a flight path, took me down to 1 health, got the achievement but lived |
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| 18:24.39 | Cide | nice |
| 18:24.42 | Ackis | all the extra damage was negated |
| 18:24.46 | Kraps | hax Ackis |
| 18:24.54 | Ackis | I was like Ackis > Deathwing |
| 18:25.26 | Warloco | which achievement? |
| 18:25.36 | Ackis | Stood in the Fire |
| 18:25.41 | Ackis | get killed by DeathWing |
| 18:26.19 | Yssaril | Ackis: it may not be possible to get killed while on a flight path |
| 18:29.22 | syrae | Ackis, one of my guildies had the same thing happen. I don't think you can die on a FP |
| 18:29.27 | Cide | impressive powers of deduction Yssaril |
| 18:29.54 | Kraps | how do EJ mods get anything done if they just hand out infractions every 3 seconds? |
| 18:30.08 | sylvanaar_work | back in vanilla people used to kill other people while they were on the flight paths |
| 18:30.09 | Cide | that's what they get done |
| 18:31.57 | alestane | No, syrae, but I got turkey'd last month while I was on a flight path. |
| 18:32.01 | Fisker | i got items |
| 18:32.21 | Kraps | bawww Fisker |
| 18:41.08 | Amarande | ok, do we suck, or does springvale heroic basically require raid gear? |
| 18:41.54 | Kraps | spingvale? |
| 18:41.55 | Amarande | (don't tell me they're going back to the twisted progression of BC where it was heroics->raids->heroics) |
| 18:41.59 | Amarande | Kraps: one of the bosses in SFK |
| 18:42.11 | Kraps | the former |
| 18:42.14 | Kraps | :p |
| 18:45.18 | Dagmar | Might be you're just using the wrong tactic |
| 18:46.00 | Dagmar | It took me three tries last night to explain to a PUG in Blackrock that yes, there will be two people whose priority is to literally just run in circles and occasionally nuke. |
| 18:48.15 | nevcairiel | we killed springvale with blue gear |
| 18:48.21 | nevcairiel | early in the progression too |
| 18:48.25 | nevcairiel | he isnt that bad |
| 18:48.27 | nevcairiel | just dont suck |
| 18:48.31 | Dagmar | Some of these fights are stupidly hard when you're doing it wrong |
| 18:51.15 | foxlit | Perhaps not stupidly hard enough? |
| 18:51.24 | Dagmar | Maybe the bosses need to call people names. |
| 18:51.33 | foxlit | There should be a clear indication of "hey, you fools, you're doing it wrong!" |
| 18:51.46 | Dagmar | Sometimes the roflstomping does that |
| 18:52.18 | nevcairiel | the trick is to kill the adds as fast as you can, and kick their cast |
| 18:52.34 | Dagmar | "If you cast Death and Decay, neither love nor money will let us keep those guys off you and you will die and then *I* will tank this guy with my monkey and make you look like an ass." |
| 18:52.49 | nevcairiel | kicking is stupidly important everywhere anyway |
| 18:52.54 | Dagmar | ...which is what I did the second time he cast it |
| 18:53.18 | Dagmar | A properly specced hunter can *almost* solo that fight |
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| 18:54.09 | Dagmar | Bless that healer for dropping the battle res on the DK so that he could come back up and cast Death and Decay (and wipe it) *again* |
| 18:55.01 | Fisker | O_o |
| 18:55.09 | Fisker | someone gave me the landslide enchant so i could enchant it for him |
| 18:55.21 | Dagmar | Fisker: Heh that guy is *special* |
| 18:55.32 | Dagmar | You should let him know about that bridge you're selling, cheap |
| 18:55.42 | cbreak | Dagmar: in the old days, our warlocks gave soul stones to the people they liked least. For double repair bills. |
| 18:56.05 | Dagmar | cbreak: Heh. |
| 18:56.06 | Warloco | o_o |
| 18:56.20 | Warloco | but wouldnt that only work if those people are also stupid? |
| 18:56.27 | Dagmar | cbreak: Usually I don't get very snippy with pugs, but that guy *literally* snatched failure from the jaws of success |
| 18:56.54 | Dagmar | I got the attention of both the little cohorts and started making big circles with them around the monkey |
| 18:57.05 | Dagmar | Aspect of the Fox is actually occasionally useful |
| 18:57.26 | Dagmar | ...then suddenly, there's a failtank on the playfield again |
| 18:57.28 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 18:57.35 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, Fox! |
| 18:57.53 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: it turns "the rest of" the hunter shots into instant casts basically |
| 18:58.15 | Dagmar | That's the first time I've ever used it in combat |
| 18:58.30 | Lopeppeppy | Fox skills are good skills. *grin* |
| 18:58.59 | Dagmar | ...and it was mainly because I had been slightly frustrated on the warlock in the same fight earlier. Not enough instant casts so I was basically fapping in circles there |
| 18:59.13 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Yeah that dancing around thing they do is useful. ;) |
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| 19:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | Foxes dance the best. |
| 19:00.29 | foxlit | which fight are we talking about? |
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| 19:00.45 | Dagmar | foxlit: the last fight in Blackrock Caverns |
| 19:01.05 | foxlit | Ah, the one dungeon I haven't seen to completion |
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| 19:02.11 | Dagmar | I'm considering doing some edits to the strategy listed at http://www.wowpedia.org/Ascendant_Lord_Obsidius because honestly this "let threat on them bounce around in a controlled manner" just sounds like a stupid idea now |
| 19:02.15 | syrae | Dagmar: I found that AotF is pretty convenient in PvP because you get focus faster to let you do more things and so you can actually hit Cobra/Steady and still keep running. I kited and killed a Pali with it |
| 19:03.15 | Dagmar | I generally don't worry about it much in PvP |
| 19:03.40 | Dagmar | ...mainly because I only seldom let anyone get that close to me in PvP. :) |
| 19:03.48 | Dagmar | <-- mounted cannon whore |
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| 19:04.19 | syrae | I dislike PvP (which makes my rolling on a PvP server even more bizarre), but having tools to keep assholes off of you is nice |
| 19:05.07 | Dagmar | I know I've been enjoying getting the people who think they'll just bring hteir add over next to the thunderstomping hunter pet, brutally killed |
| 19:05.18 | Dagmar | I'm already casting Dismiss Pet by the time they get close |
| 19:05.37 | Dagmar | They can have both the mobs. I'm a generous guy. |
| 19:08.06 | foxlit | When do two mobs ever kill anyone? |
| 19:08.38 | Ackis | why would you cast dismiss pet Dagmar? |
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| 19:16.25 | Cide | turning off autocast is clearly the worse option |
| 19:19.11 | Dagmar | Ackis: Because then their mob goes back to *them* |
| 19:19.22 | Dagmar | Ackis: As well as my mob if I cast Feign Death immediately after. |
| 19:19.45 | Dagmar | People can't get into the habit of just dumping their mobs onto hunters like that |
| 19:19.59 | foxlit | aww |
| 19:20.19 | foxlit | "People can't" is adorable :) |
| 19:20.31 | Dagmar | There were a few times leveling up where they almost managed to get me killed. |
| 19:20.53 | Dagmar | If nothing else they need to learn that *I* will turn around and try to kill them for doing it |
| 19:21.11 | Dagmar | I already had five mobs I didn't want, and people brought me two more. Screw that |
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| 19:21.55 | Cide | using a pet with aoe on autocast = bad? |
| 19:22.17 | Dagmar | Nope, but it gives people an easy way to drop their trash in your lap |
| 19:22.24 | Cide | hence bad |
| 19:22.34 | Dagmar | Good luck doing it without Growl turned on |
| 19:22.48 | Cide | growl is not aoe |
| 19:23.22 | Dagmar | Either way, the thing that matters is that I'll merrily turn that on people and kill them for trying it. |
| 19:23.38 | Dagmar | There's nothing wrong with leaving Thunderstomp on autocast |
| 19:23.57 | Dagmar | The only time that can turn foul is if there's yellow-names around |
| 19:23.58 | Cide | except for the fact that you leave yourself open to griefing by getting forced to disband your pet |
| 19:24.02 | Cide | err dismiss |
| 19:24.11 | Dagmar | Cide: How is it griefing when I don't die? |
| 19:24.25 | Dagmar | They're instantly resummonable, you know |
| 19:24.42 | Cide | noun an online game player who intentionally spoils the game for other players |
| 19:24.45 | Cide | "griefer" |
| 19:24.53 | Dagmar | "Victim" |
| 19:25.06 | Cide | still a pain in the ass for you |
| 19:25.12 | Cide | having to resummon and grab a new mob |
| 19:25.20 | Dagmar | Actually, I'm dead serious about it being very easy to dismiss the pet |
| 19:25.28 | Cide | I'm sure you are |
| 19:25.35 | Cide | I'll remember that next time you tagged my mob |
| 19:25.46 | Cide | that I can get it right back and you will consider it a personal victory! |
| 19:25.57 | Dagmar | I don't tag mobs, dude. |
| 19:26.08 | Cide | wow is not about killing mobs amirite |
| 19:26.09 | Dagmar | but feel free to get as prissy about it as you like |
| 19:26.18 | Kraps | brb, making more popcorn |
| 19:26.45 | Cide | so how exactly do you level? |
| 19:26.50 | Dagmar | Mass murder. |
| 19:27.07 | Cide | who could have mistaken that for tagging |
| 19:27.08 | Dagmar | I don't go round tagging or otherwise even ruffling the hear/feathers/tentacles of other people's mobs. |
| 19:27.23 | Cide | you don't quest? |
| 19:27.32 | Dagmar | Nope, and I don't argue with morons either. |
| 19:27.39 | Cide | sounds harsh |
| 19:37.46 | Kraps | i have a bad memory, is everyone sure that instances werent hard at the beginning of wrath? |
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| 19:38.28 | durcyn | they were cakewalks |
| 19:38.51 | Dagmar | I don't have a problem with the difficulty |
| 19:38.53 | Amarande | except Ahn'Kahet, because people never understood spellflingers |
| 19:39.06 | Dagmar | There's definitely still a lot of people who want to just AOE everything, tho. |
| 19:39.08 | Amarande | I don't think ANYONE understood mobs like that after BC until HoO, and even then you still get problems in HoO with folks who don't understand |
| 19:39.20 | A-KO | are there any dailies in Uldum other than that one tree smashing one? |
| 19:39.22 | Amarande | Dagmar: also doesn't help how they changed the priorities for frost DK |
| 19:39.23 | A-KO | smash the thieves |
| 19:39.27 | Amarande | Icy Touch is basically useless as frost |
| 19:39.32 | Fisker | we killed a boss |
| 19:39.37 | Kraps | i remember the first boss in gundrak being monstrous |
| 19:39.41 | durcyn | A-KO: the catapults |
| 19:39.42 | Dagmar | A-Ko: There's _several_ Uldum dailies if I remember correctly |
| 19:39.42 | Amarande | and Howling Blast is instant, AoE, super effective AND APPLIES A DOT |
| 19:39.58 | Amarande | which means ... yeah, DKs' jobs got a bit harder |
| 19:40.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: All QQ about having to change what button you push is useless |
| 19:40.57 | Dagmar | That happens to varying degrees with every expansion. |
| 19:43.29 | Dagmar | Amarade: You don't get Howling Blast until 85, apparently |
| 19:44.12 | Dagmar | Nah nevermind, Wowhead just doesn't make it clear |
| 19:44.39 | Dagmar | Now I'm glad you mentioned these |
| 19:44.57 | Dagmar | Howling blast is likely to break CC for nearby mobs |
| 19:45.10 | Amarande | On the one hand I'm *glad* that HB replaced IT |
| 19:45.16 | Lunessa | Station. |
| 19:45.17 | Amarande | because it's MUCH better damage, and deals AoE damage |
| 19:45.19 | Dagmar | It didn't completely replace it |
| 19:45.34 | Dagmar | It's not like Cobra Shot > Steady Shot |
| 19:45.36 | Amarande | on the other hand, it annoys me in tight quarters and when the tank doesn't pull the pull far enough from the CC'd mob |
| 19:45.39 | Kraps | level 40 |
| 19:45.44 | Amarande | and when the tank is iffy, because it tends to pull aggro easily then |
| 19:46.39 | Dagmar | Kraps: I've no idea why it says "Level 85" on the giant tooltip, but shows the level you get the things at off on the far right |
| 19:47.22 | Kraps | Dagmar: see the slider under the tooltip? |
| 19:47.39 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 19:48.16 | Dagmar | I'm not talking specifically about why it says it at all. I'm talking about why it says it _there_ |
| 19:48.48 | Kraps | because it defaults to the highest level |
| 19:48.59 | Kraps | always has i think |
| 19:49.10 | Dagmar | Not that. That it's not near _the slider that controls it_ |
| 19:49.29 | Dagmar | Makes it easy to misread |
| 19:49.57 | Kraps | #wowhead is that way ---> |
| 19:51.20 | Dagmar | Why would I go there? |
| 19:51.45 | durcyn | because there might actually be someone who wants to hear you complain about pointless shit |
| 19:52.13 | Dagmar | I wasn't complaining. |
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| 19:58.49 | Fisker | QQ |
| 19:58.55 | Fisker | 6xPVP items in Tol Barad |
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| 20:04.45 | Kraps | my regen is leet http://imgur.com/aoWHr.jpg |
| 20:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | Uber uber leet? |
| 20:05.22 | Kraps | roflmao |
| 20:05.29 | Lopeppeppy | I just tried to close the character sheet. Jeebus. |
| 20:05.47 | Fisker | i once closed a character sheet |
| 20:06.00 | Kraps | only once Fisker? |
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| 20:06.59 | Fisker | yeah Kraps |
| 20:07.01 | Fisker | at level 2 or so |
| 20:09.19 | Kraps | pro |
| 20:10.02 | nevcairiel | !api UnitIsFriend |
| 20:10.02 | lua_bot | UnitIsFriend: Returns whether two units are friendly (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsFriend) |
| 20:10.17 | nevcairiel | anyone know what this returns when a party member is MCed? |
| 20:13.35 | Cide | I believe either 1 or nil, nevcairiel |
| 20:13.49 | nevcairiel | great, thanks! |
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| 20:14.52 | Cide | I know there is a boolean expression to evaluate if someone is MC'd |
| 20:14.59 | Cide | but I believe it requires more than one api call to determine |
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| 20:15.07 | Cide | jnwhiteh: should know |
| 20:15.52 | Arrowmaster | !api player |
| 20:15.53 | lua_bot | Found 99 possible matches for 'player'. Please be more specific |
| 20:16.03 | Arrowmaster | !api ^unit.*player |
| 20:16.04 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for '^unit.*player': UnitPlayerControlled, UnitIsTappedByPlayer, UnitPlayerOrPetInParty, UnitHasVehiclePlayerFrameUI, UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid, UnitIsPlayer |
| 20:16.26 | Arrowmaster | its UnitIsPlayer and UnitPlayerControlled to figure that out i think |
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| 20:18.15 | Cide | UnitIsPossessed, nevcairiel |
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| 20:18.35 | Cide | (and Arrowmaster) |
| 20:20.01 | Cide | granted, that wasn't what you asked nevcairiel |
| 20:20.06 | Cide | so no idea still! |
| 20:21.31 | Reylor | I'm new to writing addons, and I've been trying to manipulate the Quest Log, specifically the details frame 'parchment' background. The WoW Interface that is hosted on Blizzard's site seems to be outdated. Does anyone happen to know what the Quest frames are called now? Or do I just need to create a replacement frame to override the details frame? |
| 20:22.25 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 20:22.26 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:23.41 | Fisker | it's so cold |
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| 20:32.14 | cralor | I'm new to VPS - How does one connect via SSH? |
| 20:32.55 | Ackis | one does not simply connect via SSH |
| 20:33.15 | cralor | nvm I think I found something |
| 20:35.27 | Fisker | i heard you connect via ssh |
| 20:40.18 | alestane | By my gods, WHY did I not hear about http://www.anscamobile.com/corona/ before? |
| 20:40.26 | alestane | </rhetorical> |
| 20:41.02 | Fisker | error on line 2: unexpected end of rhetorical tag |
| 20:41.41 | alestane | Fisker actually made me smile, I MUST be in a good mood today. |
| 20:41.59 | cogwheel | -_- @ flightpath from Voldrin's Hold to SW |
| 20:42.06 | Alram | Fisker, y u cancel sgu??!? |
| 20:42.12 | Fisker | FUCK YOU ALRAM |
| 20:42.13 | Fisker | NOOO |
| 20:42.20 | Alram | y u do this?! |
| 20:42.47 | Fisker | SAUCE Alram |
| 20:43.12 | Alram | syfy |
| 20:43.22 | Alram | http://twitter.com/Syfy |
| 20:43.33 | Alram | http://twitter.com/#!/Syfy/status/15504225714831360 to be exact |
| 20:44.20 | Gagorian | Not a big surprise there |
| 20:44.30 | Fisker | just when it was getting good :( |
| 20:44.31 | Fisker | jerks |
| 20:44.40 | Ackis | old news |
| 20:44.50 | Gagorian | Well, it's their own damn fault for dragging it out for so damn long |
| 20:45.23 | Fisker | i mean how the fuck can shit like warehouse 13 and eureka reair? |
| 20:45.28 | Fisker | They're not bad shows |
| 20:45.30 | Fisker | but like |
| 20:45.41 | Fisker | even SG:U first season were better than those shows are now |
| 20:45.43 | Gagorian | Stuff actually happens on those shows |
| 20:46.01 | Gagorian | Not saying they're great or even good, but watchable nontheless |
| 20:47.45 | Reylor | Thanks Arrowmaster. That forced me to go back and look at all the XML again. I found the frame name :) |
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| 20:49.20 | Arrowmaster | i like eureka |
| 20:50.04 | Gagorian | Well I miss some serious SciFi series |
| 20:50.15 | mikma | [wobin]: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/12/of_course_xbox_kinect_virtual.php |
| 20:50.23 | Arrowmaster | although it is more of a one episode per story show than SG:U where you need to watch all the episodes to keep up with the story |
| 20:50.38 | Gagorian | Both Eureka and Warehouse 13 are too much comedy for my tastes to be actually good |
| 20:50.50 | Arrowmaster | but i love those kinda shows where every episode is a major party of a longer story |
| 20:51.11 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Indeed. |
| 20:51.18 | Gagorian | Babylon 5, 'nuff said. |
| 20:51.58 | Arrowmaster | farscape |
| 20:52.38 | Kraps | this makes me sad http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1536706078 |
| 20:52.57 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Another good example |
| 20:53.17 | Arrowmaster | ive got both those series on dvd |
| 20:53.49 | Gagorian | I wish they were in HD :( |
| 20:53.50 | Arrowmaster | although i think i might still be missing a few things from the Babylon 5 universe, some of the later movies |
| 20:54.10 | Gagorian | I have most of them, even lost tales |
| 20:54.14 | Gagorian | Luckily not legend of the rangers |
| 20:54.17 | Gagorian | That sucked ass |
| 20:54.42 | Arrowmaster | i dont think that will ever happen, the rerelease of Farscape still had the first 3 seasons interlaced |
| 20:54.58 | Gagorian | There's no way for Babylon 5 at least |
| 20:55.04 | Arrowmaster | so i think they were filmed like that |
| 20:55.27 | Gagorian | All the CGI was lost for Babylon 5 and it's not rendered in high enough resolution |
| 20:55.38 | Gagorian | It would be too big of a project to redo it |
| 20:57.26 | Fisker | it pisses me off that we'll get another stargate ending on basically a cliffhanger |
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| 20:57.44 | Arrowmaster | another? |
| 20:57.50 | Arrowmaster | what do you mean? |
| 20:58.10 | Fisker | SG-1 |
| 20:58.22 | Arrowmaster | that didnt end on a cliffhanger |
| 20:58.25 | Fisker | and SG:A was basically supposed to be a cliffhanger as well |
| 20:59.25 | Fisker | well no it wasn't like a traditional cliffhanger but basically the entire Ori question was still unanswered, it just got this meh ending to kind of tie it off (which it didn't, hence cliffhanger) |
| 20:59.58 | Arrowmaster | there were two movies to end SG-1 |
| 21:00.04 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:00.11 | Fisker | because there wasn't a series ending to it |
| 21:02.28 | Ackis | why so serious Fisker |
| 21:04.03 | Fisker | why will i cut you up and make a tv show about cutting you up? |
| 21:05.24 | Shirik | 'cause every time we cut, I feel the static |
| 21:16.48 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1536336825#1 |
| 21:18.34 | Fisker | don't you keep it now? |
| 21:19.17 | Ackis | keep what? |
| 21:19.24 | Fisker | the title |
| 21:19.28 | Ackis | yeah |
| 21:19.33 | Ackis | I want the rep still |
| 21:19.37 | Fisker | then what's the fucking problem wanker? |
| 21:19.47 | Ackis | I want the rep to be 999/1000 exalted |
| 21:19.50 | Ackis | for everything possible |
| 21:19.51 | Fisker | i mean, what seems to be the issue Ackis ? |
| 21:19.55 | Fisker | oh Ackis |
| 21:19.56 | Fisker | geek |
| 21:19.57 | Ackis | wanker |
| 21:19.57 | Ackis | hoser |
| 21:19.59 | Ackis | take off eh |
| 21:20.07 | Warloco | o_o |
| 21:20.12 | Ackis | I wonder if Xinhuan did it |
| 21:20.28 | Xinhuan | ???? |
| 21:21.07 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1536336825#1 |
| 21:21.09 | Ackis | ^ |
| 21:21.17 | Ackis | did you get exalted bloodsail yet? |
| 21:21.22 | Xinhuan | no |
| 21:21.30 | Xinhuan | there is no real immediate need |
| 21:21.47 | Xinhuan | plus you have to complete most quests in most zones, harming bloodsail rep, to get those achs first |
| 21:21.58 | Xinhuan | esp cape of stv ach |
| 21:22.06 | Ackis | yeah that's what I'm worried about as well |
| 21:22.36 | Xinhuan | if u're wondering though |
| 21:22.42 | Ackis | and gordok ogre key doesn't give rep anymore |
| 21:22.55 | Xinhuan | u lose about 5.5k bloodsail rep in total when you're done with every single 1-60 zone |
| 21:23.04 | Ackis | that's not too bad then at least |
| 21:23.23 | Xinhuan | it doesn't really matter |
| 21:23.39 | Xinhuan | grinding start of revreed to exalted is enough to put your goblin rep at max hated |
| 21:24.30 | Xinhuan | grinding that back though |
| 21:24.43 | Xinhuan | is a matter of how many pirates you can kill at tanaris' shore |
| 21:24.50 | Xinhuan | before you go bored |
| 21:25.37 | Ackis | bleh |
| 21:26.10 | Ackis | so the tanaris pirates are the new ratchet pirates? |
| 21:26.18 | Ackis | but no DM stuff to supplement the grind |
| 21:26.24 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 21:27.48 | Ackis | one would have to be insane to do this |
| 21:27.52 | Ackis | looks around. |
| 21:28.52 | Arrowmaster | should have done it before cata |
| 21:29.12 | Ackis | It would've taken years to get exalted with the bloodsail Arrowmaster |
| 21:29.17 | Ackis | years of play time that is |
| 21:29.57 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i dont think "Bob Came in Pieces" is a good name for a game |
| 21:31.03 | Kraps | is the game good thought :p |
| 21:31.51 | Ackis | is it wrong that I've been personably responsible for 3/5 guild achievements my guild has gotten? =/ |
| 21:31.56 | Thunder_Child | no idea |
| 21:32.05 | Thunder_Child | i thin i'll pass however |
| 21:32.20 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 21:32.25 | Fisker | damn though |
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| 21:41.57 | Shirik | huh |
| 21:42.38 | Shirik | apparently the movie Behind Enemy Lines is based on the story of someone who graduated from my school |
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| 21:44.19 | Cide | lol |
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| 21:45.10 | Shirik | lol. |
| 21:45.12 | Shirik | "Although he gave it a positive rating on the movie review television show Hot Or Not, he sued the movie company in 2002 for making the film without his permission." |
| 21:45.26 | greppy | is there a command line argument like -opengl to switch to d3d? |
| 21:46.08 | Shirik | the lack of -opengl? :) |
| 21:49.12 | Dagmar | -deliciouscheddartoppings |
| 21:49.22 | greppy | Shirik: if you have used -opengl it changes the setting in Config.wtf. |
| 21:49.28 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:49.39 | greppy | not a big deal to edit the file |
| 21:49.40 | Shirik | then change it back to d3d is about all I can say |
| 21:49.58 | greppy | but would prefer to have it as an option I can set in the shortcut. |
| 21:50.10 | greppy | (the joys of switching back and forth between linux and windows) |
| 21:50.26 | Shirik | problem with leaving it in opengl? |
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| 21:51.58 | greppy | Shirik: just that my ventrilo overlay doesn't work :) |
| 21:52.40 | greppy | and, -d3d9 works instead of -opengl |
| 21:57.19 | Shirik | greppy |
| 21:58.11 | Shirik | I just did a search |
| 21:58.11 | Shirik | aw you already found it, thoughI found -d3d11 |
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| 21:59.08 | Shirik | there's actually a lot of options |
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| 22:00.53 | Shirik | 334289-SPELL_FAILED_WRONG_WEATHER |
| 22:00.55 | Fisker | we killed a couple of dragons Shirik |
| 22:00.55 | Shirik | what? |
| 22:01.18 | syrae | Shirik: wow... really? |
| 22:01.34 | Cide | that'd be hilarious |
| 22:01.39 | Fisker | we killed a couple of dragons Shirik |
| 22:01.46 | Cide | casting blizzard... oshi- we're in a heat wave |
| 22:03.11 | wereHamster | hm, 'cannot connect to the news server'. Is patch day today? |
| 22:03.14 | Shirik | How do I translate event names to their localized words? |
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| 22:04.23 | Cide | wut? |
| 22:05.15 | Shirik | SPELL_FAILED_WRONG_WEATHER ->"The weather isn't right for that" |
| 22:05.16 | Shirik | wtf is this |
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| 22:05.35 | nicoli_s | im sure they have something planned for it |
| 22:06.21 | Fisker | we killed a couple of dragons Shirik |
| 22:07.13 | Shirik | Maybe they plan to make frost mages qq |
| 22:07.24 | Shirik | "Lol you can't frostbolt when it's 150 degrees outside!" |
| 22:07.33 | Fisker | Shirik we killed a couple of dragons |
| 22:07.37 | Xyphoid | fireballs wouldn't work in the rain |
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| 22:07.44 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:07.55 | Xyphoid | and you have to wait for a thunderstorm for lightning bolt |
| 22:09.35 | Aurorus | maybe there's an instance or part of a boss fight? |
| 22:09.58 | Aurorus | e.g. in LotRO there's an instance that has a fire boss and any fire damage done to the boss heals him for the damage done |
| 22:10.06 | Xyphoid | hm, does anyone in wow have a proper fireball (pick a target, projectile hits them, then explodes hitting nearby people) |
| 22:10.06 | Lunessa | Shirik: Hopefully frost mages could generate enough cold to chill my fruity beverages ... |
| 22:11.09 | Xinhuan | maybe you can't use fire spells in the fire realm |
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| 22:11.51 | Xinhuan | or some mounted vehicle quest |
| 22:12.02 | Xinhuan | and using a spell on that vehicle generares the error |
| 22:12.37 | Xyphoid | they've kind of designed themselves out of being able to do anything much with elemental player spells now |
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| 22:13.12 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:13.16 | Fisker | why won't you believe me? |
| 22:13.16 | Xinhuan | mounted combat is always possible |
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| 22:18.24 | Fisker | Xinhuan |
| 22:18.26 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
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| 22:25.12 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:25.14 | Fisker | why are you a jerk? |
| 22:25.59 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Dro2cljnY |
| 22:26.00 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
| 22:26.10 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 22:27.03 | Ackis | yes |
| 22:27.26 | Fisker | no Ackis |
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| 22:29.19 | Xinhuan | Shirik |
| 22:29.21 | Xinhuan | mystery solved |
| 22:29.23 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/item=33176/flying-broom#comments |
| 22:30.28 | Fisker | wat Xinhuan |
| 22:30.36 | Xinhuan | or http://www.wowhead.com/item=33176#comments |
| 22:30.40 | Xinhuan | for a shorter link |
| 22:30.40 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:30.52 | Xinhuan | see 4th comment |
| 22:31.08 | Xinhuan | and the one below that |
| 22:33.58 | syrae | weeeiiirddd |
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| 22:52.10 | syrae | every once in a while I catch myself searching for something like "surface tension" on wowpedia |
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| 22:59.25 | Lunessa | ... |
| 22:59.54 | Lunessa | Wikipedia has lead you down a dark path; forever will it dominate your destiny. |
| 23:00.22 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm out. Ciao tutti. |
| 23:00.46 | Kraps | wat |
| 23:03.21 | syrae | angkor wat? |
| 23:04.24 | Kraps | shirik |
| 23:05.51 | Kraps | shirik help |
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| 23:17.11 | Shirik | what Kraps? |
| 23:17.41 | Kraps | Shirik: is there a wiki policy on pages about companies? |
| 23:17.54 | Shirik | hm |
| 23:17.56 | Shirik | for the companies? |
| 23:17.57 | Kraps | a policy page |
| 23:17.59 | Shirik | ~wiki WP:BFAQ |
| 23:18.00 | Shirik | is good |
| 23:18.21 | Kraps | thanks |
| 23:18.22 | Shirik | that's not the actual policy but it makes it a lot more readable |
| 23:20.08 | Kraps | what do you mean? |
| 23:21.13 | Shirik | BFAQ is not a policy page |
| 23:21.15 | Shirik | it is an FAQ page |
| 23:21.23 | Shirik | because there are many policies |
| 23:21.32 | Shirik | the FAQ page is more of a "here's pretty much what you want to know" |
| 23:28.13 | ckknight | is there a list of all the WoW zone IDs somewhere? |
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| 23:29.02 | Arrowmaster | check LibMapData-1.0 |
| 23:29.14 | Arrowmaster | i would expect it to have them |
| 23:30.28 | ckknight | @project libmapdata-1-0 |
| 23:30.30 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmapdata-1-0/. LibMapData-1.0. Game: WoW. kagaro (Manager/Author). Updated: 4 days ago |
| 23:32.10 | Arrowmaster | looks like it has it |
| 23:32.35 | Arrowmaster | lib:GetAllMapIDs(storage) |
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| 23:37.53 | syrae | oh gods... http://thedailypatdown.com/ |
| 23:38.00 | syrae | Someone actually made a site for that |
| 23:40.07 | Weinerdrizle | hey when i was downloading cosmos an error pops up and says there was an unhandled exception |
| 23:40.45 | Weinerdrizle | just hopeing some1 could point me in the wright direction to getting that fixed |
| 23:41.13 | Kraps | Weinerdrizle: the cosmos package is discontinued |
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| 23:42.17 | Kraps | but you can get the individual addons separately |
| 23:43.25 | Kraps | syrae: thats brilliant |
| 23:44.39 | Xyphoid | i feel more secure already |
| 23:46.05 | Kraps | cool video |
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| 23:46.29 | Kraps | shit my sarcasm meter exploded |
| 23:51.57 | Kraps | @ all the loltubers talking about her robotic stiffness: barring any medical condition, her brain is hoping that the lees she moves, the less viewable she is |
| 23:51.57 | Kraps | i've had that |
