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| 01:07.07 | amro | where's a cide when you need it |
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| 01:09.53 | amro | ~seen Cide |
| 01:09.54 | purl | cide <~Cide@s213-103-219-177.cust.tele2.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2h 30m 54s ago, saying: 'the old "relationship" was purely coincidental'. |
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| 01:18.55 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/item=65357 |
| 01:19.07 | bluspacecow | greatest trinket known to man |
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| 01:37.20 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk9oa_PiXAk |
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| 01:44.53 | alestane | Okay, this isn't bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYVQooRSlzg&feature=player_embedded#! |
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| 02:02.29 | Iriel | b |
| 02:02.37 | Iriel | Hm, cut and paste error there |
| 02:02.55 | Thunder_Child | not you!! |
| 02:03.12 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i am le happy that JC2 is on sale, i have been waiting for that |
| 02:12.39 | Dezzi | such silly taint issues |
| 02:12.48 | Dezzi | my tradeskill mod is tainting my talent interface |
| 02:13.06 | Dezzi | and my auction mod is tainting my buffs so I can't click them off |
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| 02:27.40 | DWSR | Anyone know where the blue post is about warlocks not getting green fire because of the work involved to change the spell anims? |
| 02:28.54 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/138763/aesthetic-glyphs-great-start-blizzard |
| 02:29.29 | DWSR | thank ye |
| 02:29.33 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
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| 02:30.47 | Thunder_Child | steam needs to stop sucking so hard with lack of options |
| 02:37.49 | ccox | if you have an archeology site in northern dire maul - forget it, you can't reach that node (it's outside the dig site!) |
| 02:39.24 | Xyphoid | no levitating nodes yet? |
| 02:39.31 | Xyphoid | i've had a few herbs like that |
| 02:43.45 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: so was I! |
| 02:50.47 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: dlc? |
| 02:50.57 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: what about it? |
| 02:51.07 | Kraps | you get it too? |
| 02:51.37 | Thunder_Child | i'm not sure if i want to pay more for the DLC than i did for the game |
| 02:51.47 | Kraps | heh |
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| 03:03.04 | Kraps | "Turns out this one is kind of hard to track. All eligible Steam accounts are now entered for this objective. Nice work" |
| 03:03.35 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 03:03.54 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/treasurehunt |
| 03:05.40 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah i need to attempt the beat hazard one |
| 03:14.36 | Kraps | lolwat http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1651512 |
| 03:17.08 | Motig | heh if you go to your guild on the battle.net website and click on news |
| 03:17.09 | Motig | you get |
| 03:17.10 | Motig | This service is unavailable to any character under level 100. |
| 03:18.15 | airtonix | you better level up then |
| 03:18.31 | Motig | :( |
| 03:18.35 | cruciform | ur not lvl100? |
| 03:18.38 | airtonix | :) |
| 03:18.48 | airtonix | who isn't? |
| 03:18.58 | Motig | we are in 2010 right |
| 03:19.11 | airtonix | no |
| 03:19.14 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, we are? |
| 03:19.20 | NightHawkTheSane | OMG I"VE GONE BACK IN TIME |
| 03:19.26 | airtonix | the year 3070 |
| 03:19.42 | Motig | what it takes 1060 years for us to get to level 100!? |
| 03:19.45 | Motig | :( |
| 03:19.55 | airtonix | qqmoar newb |
| 03:20.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, there were the dark ages from 2100 to 2900 |
| 03:20.48 | airtonix | only for those without hardened missle silos |
| 03:20.52 | cruciform | do you think by 2070 we will be able to download our conciousness |
| 03:21.16 | NightHawkTheSane | airtonix: well, yes, but those got really crowded, and there wasn't enough room for the wow servers :( |
| 03:21.29 | airtonix | no |
| 03:21.38 | airtonix | i had a population of one |
| 03:22.15 | airtonix | (the clones don't count) |
| 03:22.21 | NightHawkTheSane | well, we didn't want to tell you this.. but.. nobody wanted to be in the same one as you. |
| 03:23.13 | airtonix | thats ok |
| 03:23.16 | airtonix | we are many |
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| 03:23.58 | airtonix | gary? |
| 03:24.39 | airtonix | http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_%28clone%29 |
| 03:26.06 | airtonix | hello |
| 03:28.24 | Arrowmaster | well that was a learning experience |
| 03:29.11 | Arrowmaster | a program blew up and all i had was a black screen, i could alt-tab and see the selector but it never actually alt-tabed to another program |
| 03:29.25 | airtonix | what did you learn? |
| 03:29.26 | Arrowmaster | so i went to a console and killed off steam and wine but it still didnt fix it |
| 03:29.56 | Arrowmaster | i ended up having to use xwininfo and xkill to find the window id of the defunct program and kill it off |
| 03:29.57 | airtonix | did you try wineboot ? |
| 03:30.44 | Arrowmaster | wine wasnt even running anymore |
| 03:31.02 | Arrowmaster | but the window was still there obscuring my screen |
| 03:31.21 | amro | killall -9 on the process should do it |
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| 03:31.29 | Arrowmaster | there was no process |
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| 03:31.31 | amro | and if it's a wine process, wineserver -k is usually enough |
| 03:31.57 | Arrowmaster | i already killed it off, it was a window without a process |
| 03:32.16 | amro | odd |
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| 03:35.13 | Adys | Arrowmaster: xkill it |
| 03:35.18 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 03:35.21 | Adys | oh |
| 03:35.35 | airtonix | xkills Adys |
| 03:35.47 | Adys | airtonixkill |
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| 03:38.52 | airtonix | you know Fisker is a failed AI that escaped from an Israeli research lab ? |
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| 03:39.49 | Adys | I know that fisker is fail, that his intelligence is artificial and that he grew up in a lab |
| 03:39.51 | Adys | does that count? |
| 03:41.16 | airtonix | im sorry |
| 03:41.25 | airtonix | i'm not authorised to reveal anymore |
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| 04:03.18 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: that beat hazard one is a pita |
| 04:12.19 | KarlKFI | that does look painful |
| 04:12.44 | KarlKFI | i need 4 more and only have 2 contests to do it |
| 04:20.30 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI: "You can still do these to qualify for the grand prize! " (with regards to the older contests) |
| 04:20.53 | KarlKFI | yeah but they all include buying games that are no longer ons ale |
| 04:25.25 | cogwheel | neat... i was one of the youtube accounts that got the 15 min limit removed =) |
| 04:25.26 | KarlKFI | oh except the join an official group thing |
| 04:27.35 | cogwheel | *starts encoding again* |
| 04:28.39 | Sixen | hai frogwheel |
| 04:28.49 | KarlKFI | oh and the undergarden demo is free |
| 04:29.23 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 04:29.27 | bluspacecow | frogwheel |
| 04:29.29 | bluspacecow | buhahahahahaha |
| 04:29.31 | Sixen | :) |
| 04:29.39 | bluspacecow | link for undergarden pls |
| 04:31.13 | cogwheel | Sixen: i should make a gnome with that name and wear my murloc costume all the time... |
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| 04:34.40 | Sixen | DEW IT |
| 04:34.42 | Sixen | eet* |
| 04:35.18 | bluspacecow | dew it ? |
| 04:35.24 | bluspacecow | dump mountain dew over it ? |
| 04:35.27 | Sixen | yarly |
| 04:35.28 | Sixen | dew da dew |
| 04:37.00 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/drunk_octopus.jpg |
| 04:38.53 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/source_code.jpg :D |
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| 04:44.37 | Traxxis | Can someone point me in the right direction towards drawing boxes and displaying text on the screen? I am writing my own crowd control addon (first addon) and have it sending text messages, however I am having trouble finding a "drawbox" method at wowwiki |
| 04:46.19 | Traxxis | Please send a pm when someone reads this that can help really quick^^ |
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| 04:49.23 | ccox | patch deployed on a tuesday evening, can't be good. |
| 04:51.50 | Thrae | ccox: When was that? |
| 04:51.59 | ccox | tonight |
| 04:52.09 | ccox | When I logged in at 4 this afternoon, no patch |
| 04:52.15 | ccox | logged in just now, got a small patch |
| 04:52.56 | Thrae | Hmm, I logged in earlier today, no patch...although there was a tiny update to the Launcher itself that corrupted itself, but that could be me launching it through Raptr. |
| 04:53.04 | Thrae | Had to run the Repair tool. |
| 04:53.12 | Thrae | No patch to WoW.exe itself. |
| 04:54.02 | Thrae | Yeah, Launcher.exe patched at 8:44 PM EST. |
| 04:54.42 | Thrae | ....hmm |
| 04:56.20 | Thrae | Ah here we go -- "01:41:14.6745 Tools patch needed. Releasing Mutex and starting temp Launcher." |
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| 05:01.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hello smart folks |
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| 05:07.16 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I have a slight - non wow question. Is it possible to check for filesize of imagefiles through a batchfile, and based on the outcome replace said files? (Basically, if specific files dont exist, I need to copy them there, if they do, I need to know their size to see if they need to be replaced. Has to do with a new company logo) |
| 05:08.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ah never mind, just got lucky ... THere is no if then else, but with a few ifÅ I can find it too ... (Yes, itÅ too damn early to be awake) |
| 05:09.38 | KarlKFI | Thunder_Child: i cant even get over a million, much less 3.7mill |
| 05:18.26 | Thrae | Whoops, I had a bunch of EFS-encrypted files in my Games directory |
| 05:19.41 | Thrae | Lots of them were in the Addons directory, whoops |
| 05:20.27 | MoonWitch|Mobile | bad Thrae |
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| 05:25.05 | DWSR | Anyone know if it's possible to restore Whisper windows on client login? |
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| 05:45.00 | Shirik | Cascada has a much better voice than I thought |
| 05:45.01 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyXEJhQElQg&feature=related |
| 05:52.08 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/woogle-maps/ |
| 05:53.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:53.09 | Arrowmaster | no files to look at though |
| 05:54.36 | Traxxis | \ |
| 05:54.39 | Traxxis | Can someone point me in the right direction towards drawing boxes and displaying text on the screen? I am writing my own crowd control addon (first addon) and have it sending text messages, however I am having trouble finding a "drawbox" method at wowwiki |
| 05:55.08 | Arrowmaster | !api createframe |
| 05:55.09 | lua_bot | CreateFrame: Creates a new Frame object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CreateFrame) |
| 05:55.49 | Traxxis | I know how to create the frame, but does it have some draw box method? or something similar? |
| 05:55.58 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:56.06 | Traxxis | lame |
| 05:56.22 | Arrowmaster | you create a frame and attach textures to it |
| 05:56.22 | Traxxis | Well, thanks, will try this |
| 05:57.15 | Iriel | You can draw lines with textures also, vertical and horizonal are relatively easy, slopes are more fun (but there's a utility method in the blizzard UI (Used by the TaxiFrame if you're looking for it) that can help) |
| 06:00.08 | Adys | SHIRIK |
| 06:00.42 | Adys | Shirik. |
| 06:00.47 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:00.57 | Adys | Did I mention I love bitlbee? |
| 06:01.04 | Shirik | no |
| 06:01.09 | Adys | I should have |
| 06:01.24 | Adys | Shirik: netsplits on xmpp :D |
| 06:03.08 | Adys | Shirik: and re cascada, yeah, she does, and cascada is the group's name not hers :P |
| 06:03.15 | Shirik | I dunno :P |
| 06:03.27 | Adys | Dude |
| 06:21.44 | Adys | http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/12/acquisitions-and-antitrust.html |
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| 07:14.00 | Fisker | brrr |
| 07:16.19 | Fisker | Thunder_Child brrr? |
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| 07:48.59 | ccox | dungeon healer just hit 68, and I told him to "take off to the great white north"... and he actually got the reference. |
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| 08:56.50 | Dewin | Hmm. I somehow managed to buy BOP non-disenchantable rep reward items off the auction house... |
| 08:57.29 | cbreak | ! |
| 08:57.42 | Adys | Dewin: one of the rewards was hotfixed last night |
| 08:57.51 | Adys | was boe before |
| 08:57.56 | Dewin | Yeah. I wonder if I'll get my gold back. :-/ |
| 08:58.05 | Dewin | since I'm not even supposed to be able to have the item |
| 08:58.09 | cbreak | you didn't want to use it? |
| 08:58.14 | Dewin | No. |
| 08:58.19 | Dewin | I wanted to use the heavenly shard... |
| 08:58.20 | Adys | your loss. |
| 08:58.20 | Pertheria | omg, exploiter! /ban |
| 08:58.33 | cbreak | hmm :/ |
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| 09:01.01 | Dewin | I didn't even realize what it was until I looked at my inventory and went "Why did those blues go to the "Soulbound" part of Arkin...WHAT?" |
| 09:02.52 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/12/humble-bundle-2-is-live-5-great-games-no-drm-pay-what-you-want.ars |
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| 09:24.07 | mikma | jnwhiteh_: 05:21: -17.4°C, 10:57: -18.8°C. est. 18.00 -25°C. |
| 09:32.17 | Fisker | mikma |
| 09:32.24 | Fisker | gawker leaked my fucking email |
| 09:32.30 | Fisker | jerks |
| 09:32.43 | Fisker | last time i register on random sites to say "Always bet on duke" |
| 09:33.02 | Cide | Fisker |
| 09:33.06 | Cide | did you stop betting on duke? |
| 09:33.40 | Fisker | i never did |
| 09:33.45 | Cide | oh |
| 09:33.46 | Cide | phew! |
| 09:37.53 | Shirik | omg |
| 09:38.17 | Shirik | Wikipedia developers found old backup files from the very very early days; data that was assumed to be lost forever |
| 09:38.24 | Shirik | total size: 8 MB |
| 09:40.10 | Shirik | Amusing main page: |
| 09:40.12 | Shirik | > This is the new WikiPedia! The idea here is to write a complete encyclopedia from scratch, without peer review process, etc. Some people think that this may be a hopeless endeavor, that the result will necessarily suck. We aren't so sure. So, let's get |
| 09:40.12 | Shirik | > to work! |
| 09:42.16 | aualin_ | That's on 8 MB? |
| 09:42.37 | Adys | there's 7.9MB of 4chan spam after that |
| 09:42.41 | aualin_ | ah |
| 09:46.02 | haste | owned Fisker |
| 09:46.12 | haste | smart people logged in through other services |
| 09:46.17 | haste | or didn't register at all |
| 09:46.48 | Fisker | well i don't use facetard or twatter? |
| 09:47.01 | haste | I has twatter, not facetard |
| 09:47.15 | haste | I hate it when services do like: LOG IN THROUGH FACEBOOK CONNECT! |
| 09:47.21 | haste | NO OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE |
| 09:47.47 | Arrowmaster | what kinda retards do that? |
| 09:47.50 | Fisker | i hate it when services do like "Log in through facebook connect or PAY A MASSIVE FEE OF A BILLION TRILLION DOLLARS TO MAKE AN ACCOUNT" |
| 09:47.59 | Fisker | and then you make some fake facebook profile and try to login |
| 09:48.02 | Fisker | and it doesn't work |
| 09:48.03 | Fisker | jerks. |
| 09:48.24 | haste | Arrowmaster: too many :( |
| 09:51.01 | Fisker | haste |
| 09:51.05 | Fisker | my stomach is grrr'ing |
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| 09:51.55 | Fisker | Blizzard made an unf |
| 09:51.59 | Fisker | unforgiving mistake |
| 09:52.59 | haste | my stomach is also grrring |
| 10:02.33 | Kalroth | grrrrr |
| 10:03.24 | Fisker | grrrrrrrr |
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| 10:04.37 | haste | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 10:19.31 | Zyn- | http://www.wimp.com/attacksopenoffice/ |
| 10:19.33 | Zyn- | wat |
| 10:21.00 | Dagmar | A whole lotta bullshit. |
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| 11:05.46 | Fisker | haste halp me |
| 11:05.53 | Fisker | my mouse is running out of battery |
| 11:10.07 | Pertheria | whoops, didnt notice there was a patch yesterday heh |
| 11:10.49 | Fisker | there wasn't? |
| 11:12.33 | Pertheria | wonder why launcher grabbed updated tools then |
| 11:14.16 | Gnarfoz | because they can (and do) update the launcher and related tools at arbitrary other points of time |
| 11:14.21 | Gnarfoz | unrelated to WoW itself |
| 11:15.12 | haste | food I has it! |
| 11:17.15 | Gnarfoz | haste: lucky you |
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| 11:18.00 | airtonix | what was the it crowds piss take on facebook? |
| 11:18.21 | Gnarfoz | face...something |
| 11:18.28 | Gnarfoz | friendface |
| 11:18.29 | airtonix | space? |
| 11:19.16 | airtonix | ok so instead of using twatface |
| 11:19.30 | airtonix | im watching bubblegum crisis |
| 11:20.06 | airtonix | every episode is 45% intro & outro |
| 11:20.10 | airtonix | :( |
| 11:21.17 | Fisker | haste |
| 11:21.18 | Fisker | my mouse |
| 11:21.19 | Fisker | halp |
| 11:21.31 | Cide | make haste |
| 11:21.35 | airtonix | hoho |
| 11:21.51 | airtonix | makes off with fisters mouse |
| 11:21.58 | Cide | fisters? |
| 11:22.10 | airtonix | Fasker |
| 11:22.13 | Fisker | haha airtonix |
| 11:22.19 | Fisker | enjoy having a mouse with low battery |
| 11:22.29 | airtonix | i will RULE THE WORLD |
| 11:22.57 | airtonix | Fisker, i fixed your mouse |
| 11:23.07 | Fisker | nothing was wrong with it |
| 11:23.11 | airtonix | :) |
| 11:23.16 | Fisker | not sure if i can make it until i get new batteries though |
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| 11:23.25 | Fisker | i only got 25 days left of using my mouse |
| 11:23.53 | airtonix | so you're not out of juice? |
| 11:24.13 | Fisker | i am |
| 11:24.18 | airtonix | in 25days |
| 11:24.22 | Fisker | it says my battery is almost depleted |
| 11:24.40 | airtonix | "then" is a far cry from "now" |
| 11:24.48 | airtonix | even "soon" |
| 11:25.15 | Fisker | don't recall saying now or soon? |
| 11:25.21 | airtonix | you just did |
| 11:25.42 | Fisker | no i wrote it |
| 11:25.44 | Fisker | haha |
| 11:25.49 | Fisker | pwnt lololol n00b etc. |
| 11:26.28 | airtonix | ok |
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| 12:03.52 | clever | is there an event that fires when changing zones? |
| 12:04.34 | Gagorian | ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA |
| 12:05.18 | clever | thanks |
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| 12:33.47 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 12:40.20 | ZorbaBeta | frustration: typing in my authenticator code, realizing I missed a digit, looking back down at the phone, and finding it's changed codes |
| 12:40.27 | ZorbaBeta | dammit give me my old code it probably still works >:( |
| 12:43.19 | Napoleone | onyl gets insactive when you get password wrong and code right ;P |
| 12:43.30 | Napoleone | hate that you cant just request a new one and wait some time on the auth |
| 12:43.39 | ZorbaBeta | I hadn't even hit enter yet, it was almost certainly still good |
| 12:43.46 | ZorbaBeta | "oh hey that's seven digits isn't it, that is not enough digits" |
| 12:44.08 | foxlit | l2remember 8 digit numbers :P |
| 12:44.17 | Gnarfoz | actually, it can be anything from 8 to 0 digits |
| 12:44.26 | Gnarfoz | (because you can omit leading zeros) |
| 12:44.28 | ZorbaBeta | it was more a matter of reading it, it had a huge pile of 7's in it and I missed one |
| 12:44.56 | foxlit | the range requirements on mushroom detonation is evil :( |
| 12:45.01 | ZorbaBeta | for some reason (probably confirmation bias) I seem to get a ridiculous number of 7's in my codes |
| 12:46.56 | clever | note to self, try lots of 7's when hacking ZorbaBeta's acct |
| 12:47.21 | ZorbaBeta | if you haven't seen it: http://i54.tinypic.com/21k9n3k.png |
| 12:47.48 | clever | did the quest already:P |
| 12:47.59 | ZorbaBeta | it's not only the quest that makes that funny :P |
| 12:48.00 | clever | the toon name fits in well though |
| 12:48.10 | clever | and the pet:P |
| 12:48.34 | clever | ZorbaBeta: you know astrolabe? |
| 12:48.50 | ZorbaBeta | the pre-cataclysm version, at least, yes |
| 12:49.02 | ZorbaBeta | my experience with it is that it tends to be bugprone and updated glacially, which is why I ended up forking it :P |
| 12:49.47 | clever | i was doing sqrt(x*x+y*y) for mearusing distance between coords |
| 12:50.03 | clever | but as i feared, the distance from 0,0 to 0.1,0 isnt the same across all zones |
| 12:50.09 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, it's not even close to the same |
| 12:50.20 | ZorbaBeta | to make it worse, the distance from 0,0 to 0.1,0 or 0,0.1 isn't the same |
| 12:50.27 | clever | i was just in searing gorge, a tiny zone, and it was way way off |
| 12:50.28 | ZorbaBeta | (though it is a constant ratio, at least) |
| 12:50.55 | ZorbaBeta | you're pretty much stuck using astrolabe there. |
| 12:51.09 | clever | yeah i edited my distance function to call Astrolabe:ComputeDistance |
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| 12:51.26 | clever | and its now just throwing errors, i just thought about the paths in Load.xml |
| 12:51.37 | clever | nope, thats not it either |
| 12:51.54 | clever | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.05 | ZorbaBeta | looks like you haven't gotten astrolabe loading properly |
| 12:52.10 | ZorbaBeta | or possibly initialized properly |
| 12:52.19 | ZorbaBeta | find some other mod that uses it, see what they do |
| 12:52.26 | clever | saw no mention of having to initialize it on the wiki |
| 12:52.29 | clever | i'll read tomtom some more |
| 12:53.50 | ZorbaBeta | I vaguely recall there's something, but I may be completely wrong |
| 12:54.08 | clever | looks to be something related to DongleStub |
| 12:54.26 | clever | feels like a fetcher function to get the main astrolabe object, to hide/protect it from other addons |
| 12:54.43 | clever | local Astrolabe = DongleStub("Astrolabe-1.0") |
| 12:55.16 | clever | which i'm guessing is paired up to local LIBRARY_VERSION_MAJOR = "Astrolabe-1.0" so each embeded version can differ and not conflict |
| 12:55.28 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, sounds right |
| 12:55.36 | clever | works right now that i stuck that line at the top :) |
| 12:55.54 | clever | you know the flight point stuff in quest helper? |
| 13:00.04 | clever | odd, the distance between anything is 0 |
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| 13:05.31 | clever | local dist,xdelta,ydelta = Astrolabe:ComputeDistance(c1,z1,a.x,a.y, c1,z1,b.x,b.y) |
| 13:05.38 | clever | ZorbaBeta: for any 2 points, dist is always 0 :S |
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| 13:06.13 | clever | -0 if i fly far off |
| 13:06.42 | clever | -0 for the ydelta |
| 13:06.42 | ZorbaBeta | make absolutely sure that your a and b are what you think they are |
| 13:06.48 | ZorbaBeta | and yeah, I'm somewhat familiar with the questhelper codebase ;) |
| 13:06.54 | clever | i'm printing them, and its right |
| 13:06.55 | Kalroth | :P |
| 13:06.58 | clever | print(a.x.." "..a.y.." "..b.x.." "..b.y.." "..dist.." "..xdelta.." "..ydelta) |
| 13:07.09 | clever | ZorbaBeta: yeah i remember your name from a while ago |
| 13:07.23 | Kalroth | Zorba is the worst warrior |
| 13:07.25 | clever | id love to have that routing stuff working again, even if its just to a coord i click on |
| 13:07.34 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.35 | ZorbaBeta | pfft I'm the best warrior |
| 13:07.37 | bluspacecow | ~trout Fisker |
| 13:07.37 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 13:07.43 | Kalroth | ~hug Fisker |
| 13:07.43 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Fisker |
| 13:08.01 | clever | ZorbaBeta: the print is giving dist/deltas of 0 0 -0 |
| 13:08.01 | bluspacecow | ~hug Kalroth |
| 13:08.01 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Kalroth |
| 13:08.07 | ZorbaBeta | the thing I really want is an automatic quest tracker that tracks the closest quest for me |
| 13:08.07 | Kalroth | awww |
| 13:08.16 | clever | if i fly around some, its 0 -0 -0 |
| 13:08.29 | Kalroth | Can you still draw on screen or did they remove that after the boss mods? |
| 13:08.29 | ZorbaBeta | clever, I feel like you're doing something very wrong. |
| 13:08.40 | ZorbaBeta | kalroth, you can certainly draw on screen, but you can't do 3d placement |
| 13:08.41 | bluspacecow | the built in quest tracker you can make the quests sort by distance they are from you. |
| 13:09.03 | Dagmar | No one's ever said that about clever before. How very odd. |
| 13:09.04 | Kalroth | yeah, thats what I meant |
| 13:09.05 | ZorbaBeta | blu, hmm, really? must not have seen that option |
| 13:09.18 | bluspacecow | yeah need to right click the tracker a bit |
| 13:09.24 | bluspacecow | its hidden |
| 13:09.26 | clever | ZorbaBeta: http://privatepaste.com/3c41f1b873 |
| 13:09.29 | Kalroth | I wanted a proper archaeology addon that draws possible direction :p |
| 13:09.30 | bluspacecow | ninja like even. |
| 13:09.33 | ZorbaBeta | oh hey there ite is |
| 13:09.35 | ZorbaBeta | nice, thanks |
| 13:09.42 | clever | Kalroth: thats one of my future plans in this addon |
| 13:09.46 | bluspacecow | i use Archy |
| 13:09.51 | bluspacecow | but it doesn't plot direction |
| 13:09.52 | bluspacecow | yet |
| 13:10.03 | clever | mine plots distance from each survey marker |
| 13:10.05 | Kalroth | Yeah, it's the only thing I need, the rest is fluff :) |
| 13:10.11 | clever | but ive now confirmed distance is completely screwed :P |
| 13:10.39 | bluspacecow | does http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetPlayerFacing work ? |
| 13:10.55 | clever | bluspacecow: it would if the player faces the right way and the telescope was acurate |
| 13:11.12 | clever | however, i have gotten 3 90 degree turns in a row, zig-zagging back and forth across the same line |
| 13:11.42 | ZorbaBeta | unrelated: I really hope wow implements aoe looting at some point. it's so bloody convenient |
| 13:11.59 | clever | ZorbaBeta: there is an engineering item for that |
| 13:12.07 | ZorbaBeta | isn't that ranged looting, not aoe looting? |
| 13:12.16 | clever | yeah ranged looting |
| 13:12.28 | ZorbaBeta | yeah that's nice too, and I'm totally making one once leveling engineering isn't horrifyingly expensive |
| 13:12.30 | ZorbaBeta | but I want aoe looting |
| 13:13.23 | Pertheria | i wish they would add auto-loot |
| 13:13.35 | airtonix | mmmmmmmmmmmmm' |
| 13:13.47 | clever | no idea why this new distance is returning 0 all the time |
| 13:14.30 | clever | arrow.lua: local dist, dx, dy = QuestHelper.Astrolabe:ComputeDistance(QuestHelper.collect_rc, QuestHelper.collect_rz, QuestHelper.collect_rx, QuestHelper.collect_ry, active_point.c, active_point.z, active_point.x, active_point.y) |
| 13:14.46 | clever | looks to do the exact same thing as i do |
| 13:14.46 | ZorbaBeta | keep in mind that the QH astrolabe is heavily customized |
| 13:15.00 | ZorbaBeta | and may behave only tangentially in the same manner |
| 13:15.14 | clever | it matches the docs for this function |
| 13:15.17 | ZorbaBeta | well, was customized, who bloody knows what the new dev is doing |
| 13:15.24 | airtonix | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 13:15.27 | airtonix | questhelper |
| 13:15.29 | airtonix | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 13:15.36 | airtonix | <deepbreath> |
| 13:15.41 | airtonix | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 13:15.44 | Pertheria | isnt that called defaultui now? |
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| 13:15.50 | clever | tomtom doesnt even make use of the function |
| 13:15.59 | clever | Pertheria: the default ui lacks routing and directions |
| 13:16.15 | clever | and lacks anything on the minimap |
| 13:16.27 | Pertheria | i guess i always liked there to be something challenging about the game |
| 13:16.31 | Pertheria | like, requiring me to read the quest |
| 13:16.33 | Pertheria | shrugs |
| 13:16.42 | ZorbaBeta | you found reading quests to be challenging? |
| 13:16.45 | airtonix | can i interest you in a new game? |
| 13:16.48 | airtonix | its called |
| 13:16.51 | airtonix | AutoQuest |
| 13:16.52 | clever | half the time even the built-in helper doesnt give enough info |
| 13:16.57 | clever | i have to read the quest text to find it:P |
| 13:17.11 | Kalroth | ZorbaBeta: reeding is hadr, ok??? |
| 13:17.34 | ZorbaBeta | omg l2rite |
| 13:17.39 | clever | looks like writing/typing is hard too:P |
| 13:17.40 | airtonix | Kalroth, ur txt iz 2 hard fer me |
| 13:17.47 | Kalroth | sum tiems thers lung words and sum tims thers bad direktsion |
| 13:17.59 | Kalroth | so durid confussed |
| 13:18.20 | airtonix | thats why you need a priest to help you |
| 13:19.12 | Kalroth | But in all seriousness, not everyone speaks english natively and stuff gets lost/misunderstood in translation |
| 13:19.40 | ZorbaBeta | blizzard needs to learn what "rolling restarts" means |
| 13:19.42 | airtonix | you know english isn't the dominant language of humans on this planet? |
| 13:19.53 | ZorbaBeta | it doesn't mean "bring all the servers down near-simultaneously" |
| 13:20.06 | Kalroth | ZorbaBeta: it was a typo, they meant to write 'trolling restarts' |
| 13:20.18 | airtonix | :) |
| 13:20.19 | Kalroth | airtonix: it isnt! |
| 13:20.25 | Dagmar | ...while the admins roll around on the floor, laughing. |
| 13:20.32 | Dagmar | Rolling restarts, man |
| 13:20.48 | Kalroth | "Look at this sucker, he just found an expensive epic. Hit the switch, hit the switch!!" |
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| 13:20.58 | airtonix | GOGOGO |
| 13:21.08 | airtonix | <green flashing light in server bunker> |
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| 13:25.33 | ZorbaBeta | I was actually in the middle of looting quest items :( |
| 13:25.43 | airtonix | Dagmar, do you still use mythtv ? |
| 13:26.08 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 13:26.56 | clever | i really need to upgrade mine |
| 13:27.38 | ZorbaBeta | heroic leap is fantastic for questing |
| 13:27.57 | clever | exact oposite of death grip? |
| 13:29.21 | ZorbaBeta | no, it's "move yourself to a location you choose" |
| 13:29.45 | airtonix | so like blink |
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| 13:30.04 | ZorbaBeta | better - it's not a fixed direction forward, it's an arbitrary location |
| 13:30.06 | clever | sounds like it has more control then blink |
| 13:30.21 | ZorbaBeta | also, 40yd range |
| 13:30.29 | clever | cooldown? |
| 13:30.32 | ZorbaBeta | 1min |
| 13:30.39 | clever | so you cant race with it |
| 13:30.44 | ZorbaBeta | although there's a talent to reduce it to 40sec |
| 13:30.46 | clever | could be neat for a rogue though |
| 13:30.53 | ZorbaBeta | it's a warrior ability |
| 13:30.56 | clever | yeah |
| 13:31.05 | Jamash | heroic leap? |
| 13:31.25 | ZorbaBeta | yeah |
| 13:31.26 | clever | but a rogue could abuse it to randomly jump around while stealthed |
| 13:31.35 | Jamash | j-j-j-ump around |
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| 13:32.26 | clever | ZorbaBeta: my only guess is the range it expects x/y to be in |
| 13:32.30 | clever | 0-1, or 0-1000? |
| 13:32.32 | Mike-N-Go | PIES ARE ON SALE |
| 13:32.38 | Jamash | OMG PIES? |
| 13:32.41 | Mike-N-Go | PIE N OWW |
| 13:32.43 | ZorbaBeta | 0-100 maybe |
| 13:33.21 | Jamash | Blink used to have a targeting cursor |
| 13:33.28 | Jamash | but blizzard realized that that made it useful |
| 13:33.50 | mitch0 | jamash: I'd be seriously pissed if I had to target before every blink... |
| 13:34.07 | Mike-N-Go | Jamash: There are two 'that' in your last statment. |
| 13:34.10 | Jamash | you like blinking backwards? |
| 13:34.19 | airtonix | Mike-N-Go, no there isn't |
| 13:34.26 | Jamash | Mike-N-Go: John where james had had had had had had had had had had had the professor's approval. |
| 13:34.36 | Mike-N-Go | Isn't that disengage? |
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| 13:35.03 | Pertheria | that that is, is. that that is not, is not. is that it? it is. |
| 13:35.05 | Pertheria | :P |
| 13:35.12 | Mike-N-Go | Lopeppeppy: Glad yougot your voice back. |
| 13:35.14 | airtonix | :( |
| 13:35.15 | mitch0 | blinking backwards has nothing to do with being targeted or not and everything to do with bad terrain desing and lag |
| 13:35.28 | Lopeppeppy | Got my eyes back too! |
| 13:35.28 | Jamash | "blizzard realized that" "that made it useful" are both perfectly valid sentence fragments that combined make a perfectly valid sentence btw |
| 13:35.30 | clever | ZorbaBeta: *100 on x/y has no effect |
| 13:35.30 | Pertheria | i've never known blink had a target option... -shrug- |
| 13:35.33 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy: grats |
| 13:35.47 | Lopeppeppy | I like mine eyes. So useful for so many things. |
| 13:36.21 | ZorbaBeta | clever, time to start debugging, i suppose. luckily you have the astrolabe source code |
| 13:36.31 | Mike-N-Go | Jamash: All I did was say there were two; nothing wrong or right about that. |
| 13:36.40 | Jamash | Mike-N-Go: OR IS IT? |
| 13:36.44 | clever | ZorbaBeta: already skimmed over it to see how things work |
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| 13:36.49 | airtonix | GET ZE INFLITRATOR |
| 13:36.54 | ZorbaBeta | time to stop skimming and start debugging :P |
| 13:37.06 | clever | but theres no built-in debuger! :P |
| 13:37.07 | Mike-N-Go | started troll rants! |
| 13:37.19 | airtonix | clever, lololololololololol |
| 13:37.27 | airtonix | etc |
| 13:37.35 | ZorbaBeta | you don't need a debugger to debug :) |
| 13:37.54 | airtonix | debugs ZorbaBeta |
| 13:38.04 | clever | ZorbaBeta: but /reload takes too long:P |
| 13:38.09 | airtonix | releases zorbAlpha |
| 13:38.17 | ZorbaBeta | live with it ^^ |
| 13:38.26 | Mike-N-Go | If /me debugs bug guts, whats left? |
| 13:38.46 | ZorbaBeta | actually |
| 13:38.49 | ZorbaBeta | http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif?1275684729 |
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| 13:39.18 | clever | i dont see eastern kingdoms in the map data |
| 13:39.23 | Jamash | clever: unload irrelevant addons while debugging to make /reload go faster |
| 13:39.58 | clever | Jamash: yeah, but theres still a limit to how fast it can go |
| 13:40.09 | clever | just for the game itself to reload |
| 13:41.11 | Jamash | get 32 gigs of ram, install wow to ramdisk, profit |
| 13:41.42 | clever | its mostly a cpu deal right now |
| 13:42.04 | airtonix | nomnomnom |
| 13:42.38 | Jamash | The Alchemy mount Vial of the Sands is no longer Bind-on-Pickup. O_O |
| 13:42.46 | airtonix | nomnomnom |
| 13:42.54 | Jamash | brb leveling alchemy |
| 13:42.55 | clever | ah, it looks like its filling the table during startup |
| 13:43.01 | clever | thats why the data is missing |
| 13:43.05 | ZorbaBeta | there's already one in the AH on my server |
| 13:43.11 | Jamash | for 30k? |
| 13:43.14 | ZorbaBeta | 125k |
| 13:43.16 | Jamash | nice |
| 13:43.23 | Jamash | hooray for inflation |
| 13:43.38 | ZorbaBeta | keep in mind that the recipe is still a bop rare drop from a specific archaeology artifact |
| 13:43.50 | ZorbaBeta | and that it costs somewhere around 30k just in vendor mats |
| 13:44.00 | Jamash | ah, didn't know that |
| 13:44.04 | Jamash | so like the motorbike |
| 13:44.37 | ZorbaBeta | like that, but far worse |
| 13:44.42 | clever | ZorbaBeta: this looks interesting.... |
| 13:44.43 | Jamash | well, that answers the question "what am I saving gold for" |
| 13:44.46 | clever | an activate function! |
| 13:45.03 | airtonix | activates lasers |
| 13:45.18 | clever | though tomtom has no direct use of it |
| 13:46.52 | Mike-N-Go | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/12/14/wow-moviewatch-alliance-vs-horde-cataclysm-a-whole-new-worl/ this time featuring extra TotalBiscuit! |
| 13:49.34 | Lopeppeppy | To buy a pwny! |
| 13:49.36 | ZorbaBeta | I feel faintly bad about it when I get a 20k crit on some random northrend creature |
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| 13:49.46 | Cairenn | station |
| 13:49.53 | Lunessa | Station. |
| 13:50.03 | clever | ZorbaBeta: lol! :) |
| 13:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, good morning Lunessa. On holiday break hours already, dear? |
| 13:51.14 | Lunessa | Since Monday. |
| 13:52.02 | Lopeppeppy | I was sickly yesterday, I didn't see. *hugs* I suck! |
| 13:52.19 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: only if they're lucky ;) |
| 13:52.28 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. *weg* |
| 13:52.35 | clever | ZorbaBeta: aha! |
| 13:52.44 | clever | i turned tomtom off and now mine is erroring out completely |
| 13:52.59 | airtonix | pineapples? |
| 13:54.48 | bluspacecow | *licks the Lopeppeppy* |
| 13:54.55 | clever | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.34 | airtonix | clever, wordpress.com |
| 13:55.47 | airtonix | send me the rss feed when you're done |
| 13:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, bluspacecow, I didn't know you cared. *wink* |
| 13:57.25 | clever | looks like the paths in Load.xml are relative and dont need patching |
| 13:57.29 | Gnarfoz | http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldfownuWjE1qzpwi0o1_500.png awesome |
| 13:57.48 | clever | but its still giving 0 distance |
| 13:58.41 | clever | Gnarfoz: lol :) |
| 14:00.44 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: See, the movie "Hackers" didn't entirely lie to us. |
| 14:01.34 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: funny thing, I just watched the 2010 Wall Street and there's a scene early on which's 3D graphics reminded me of "Hackers"'s supercomputer hacking scenes ^^ |
| 14:01.38 | clever | ZorbaBeta: i think i found the problem, mapData.width is 0 |
| 14:01.43 | clever | the zone is 0 yards wide... |
| 14:02.00 | Lunessa | Quit hacking the Gibson! |
| 14:02.51 | Jamash | so I alt-tabbed out of wow while smushing up 100 pygmy suckerfish, I tab back in and there's christmas decorations everywhere |
| 14:03.11 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: magic fish |
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| 14:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, have you seen the Wake Up Kitty Kitty series? |
| 14:04.28 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: No, I haven't. And if it doesn't come with booze, caffeine or morning sex, it can wait until a decent hour... say 11am ish? |
| 14:04.56 | airtonix | lulz |
| 14:04.58 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, dear! |
| 14:05.14 | Lunessa | Excellent. |
| 14:05.14 | airtonix | boooze in the morning! |
| 14:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm too far away to deliver the kahlua coffee all nekkid. |
| 14:05.24 | Lunessa | Any time is booze time. |
| 14:05.31 | airtonix | no |
| 14:05.38 | airtonix | "Beer'o'Clock" |
| 14:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | Beer'o'clock is now. |
| 14:06.15 | airtonix | there's an app for that |
| 14:06.52 | industrial | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/0115257/Yahoo-Lays-Off-600-Free-Beers-and-Jobs-Flow |
| 14:06.59 | industrial | I read "free beers and blowjobs" |
| 14:07.02 | industrial | >_> |
| 14:07.15 | Lunessa | Also - Tron: Legacy tonight for midnight showings. |
| 14:07.29 | airtonix | FUUUUUUU |
| 14:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | Free Beer and Hot Wings is a morning show... |
| 14:07.45 | airtonix | explodes |
| 14:08.37 | Jamash | TRON YES |
| 14:08.50 | Jamash | okay, need to bust out my 20th anniversary collector's edition and watch it with the fambly |
| 14:09.03 | airtonix | i won't let you |
| 14:09.20 | airtonix | must not sully the lords story |
| 14:09.41 | Jamash | wat? |
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| 14:10.59 | alestane | is starting to remember all the misgivings I had about GameMaker before. |
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| 14:11.42 | airtonix | hi |
| 14:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | Why what misgivings huh? |
| 14:12.00 | Lopeppeppy | I am the Egg Man! I am the Walrus! |
| 14:12.01 | Jamash | mornin' K-Ren |
| 14:12.09 | alestane | Programmer confusions, Peppy. I can explain if you are so inclined. |
| 14:12.20 | airtonix | implications abound |
| 14:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | you splains over in whispers. I need more seekrits. |
| 14:12.49 | airtonix | scapel |
| 14:13.19 | alestane | <suSssShrsusishi...> |
| 14:13.28 | airtonix | i see |
| 14:14.03 | Napoleone | QueryGuildXP just fires the event |
| 14:14.12 | Napoleone | wonder how i retrieve the xp amount |
| 14:14.16 | clever | Napoleone: one sec |
| 14:14.45 | Napoleone | hmm is there a tool to get the latest Framexml folder? |
| 14:15.01 | clever | Napoleone: i found an svn repo of it |
| 14:15.18 | clever | Napoleone: which led to me creating http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=API_UnitGetGuildXP&s=wl |
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| 14:16.03 | clever | Napoleone: actualy, it was a git repo |
| 14:16.18 | clever | git://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source.git |
| 14:16.49 | Jamash | Napoleone: https://code.google.com/p/jamash/ |
| 14:19.18 | Napoleone | Jamash love ya ;P |
| 14:19.24 | Napoleone | clever i dont know what git is |
| 14:19.34 | Jamash | Napoleone: :D |
| 14:19.50 | clever | Napoleone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29 |
| 14:20.26 | clever | after checking out a copy of the git repo, i should have every single version of the framexml that was ever put on it |
| 14:21.09 | clever | ZorbaBeta: fixed, i was using the wrong functions to get continent/zone id |
| 14:21.44 | Lunessa | "You are now able to drink and eat after the party wipes. It's a sad day, after all, when the dead can't even enjoy delicious food and drink." From the patch notes. |
| 14:21.47 | clever | appears to work fine now, but its on a completely different scale from before, so i have to retune it all |
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| 14:23.09 | Lunessa | "Corpses which have already been skinned should no longer sometimes remain, making players think they can still be skinned -- players who are then left saddened by false hopes." ROFL |
| 14:23.36 | Jamash | oh good, that was annoying me |
| 14:23.43 | ZorbaBeta | that'd do it :) |
| 14:23.58 | Jamash | also you could re-skin them to increment the guild skinning achievement >.> |
| 14:24.00 | Computerpunk | Seems archaeology dig spots are preset |
| 14:24.45 | clever | Lunessa: i found a similar bug in one of my quests |
| 14:24.53 | clever | i had to collect oil from the fish bodies |
| 14:25.00 | clever | but that made the body de-spawn, like skinning |
| 14:25.06 | clever | but if i skinn fast enough, i can do both |
| 14:27.25 | Jamash | why the hell was gawker media storing unhashed passwords in the first place? |
| 14:27.37 | Napoleone | Jamash |
| 14:27.39 | Napoleone | data ..\Data, out ..\User-Interface-Code, mpq.exe mpq.exe, locale enUS, extract code, log code.log |
| 14:27.45 | Lopeppeppy | to make you boggle |
| 14:27.46 | Napoleone | i ot uk lol |
| 14:28.04 | ZorbaBeta | jamash, technically they were hashed |
| 14:28.09 | ZorbaBeta | they were just hashed with unsalted DES |
| 14:28.16 | Jamash | ZorbaBeta: facepalm |
| 14:28.26 | clever | my site currently uses unsalted md5 |
| 14:28.31 | Jamash | when was the last time anyone sane used DES? |
| 14:28.41 | Jamash | like, 1990? |
| 14:28.50 | ZorbaBeta | well, most likely, today, since I doubt Gawker has changed their crypto yet |
| 14:29.00 | Jamash | see: "anyone sane" |
| 14:29.01 | ZorbaBeta | oh you said "sane" |
| 14:29.02 | ZorbaBeta | right |
| 14:29.05 | ZorbaBeta | in that case, quite some time ago. |
| 14:29.15 | Jamash | Napoleone: edit teh batch fiel ok |
| 14:29.31 | Pertheria | i like my des unsalted.. though, it normally needs some pepper |
| 14:30.05 | Jamash | Napoleone: I even documented it in the readme.txt |
| 14:31.26 | clever | bbl |
| 14:31.28 | Lopeppeppy | Cumin fixes everything. |
| 14:31.37 | Kalroth | oh come on! |
| 14:32.01 | Computerpunk | I'm rather curious if DBCs contain any data on archaeology. |
| 14:32.06 | Fisker | gets all tingly |
| 14:32.19 | Kalroth | His Fiskersense is tingling |
| 14:33.16 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think he's having electroshock therapy today. |
| 14:33.31 | Jamash | looks like my info wasn't in the gawker dump |
| 14:33.53 | Lopeppeppy | I wouldn't trust them... change it anyway. |
| 14:34.29 | Napoleone | stil ldies at 81 |
| 14:34.29 | Kalroth | Jamash: Don't worry, you'll get spammails about having been hacked and you have to go to rescue-cataclysm-account.183.info/keylogger.php to fix it |
| 14:34.35 | Jamash | indeed |
| 14:35.18 | Jamash | Napoleone: what does what at 81? |
| 14:35.23 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 14:35.28 | Fisker | someone asking in trade for landslide |
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| 14:40.38 | Computerpunk_ | Fisker, so, did I give you any ideas? |
| 14:40.40 | Computerpunk_ | lol |
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| 14:55.58 | Napoleone | $dataHandle = IO::Dir->new(File::Spec->catdir($dataDir, $locale)) or die; |
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| 14:57.59 | Napoleone | hmm cahnged it to enGB and still wants us |
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| 15:01.40 | alestane | ...that looks vaguely like C++, vaguely like Lua and vaguely like perl. C#? |
| 15:01.44 | Jamash | perl |
| 15:01.59 | Jamash | herm |
| 15:02.01 | Jamash | lemme see |
| 15:02.04 | alestane | Ah, I have only seen very basic perl previously. |
| 15:02.44 | Napoleone | jamash feeding --locale enGB and having edited the pl file. still looks for us |
| 15:02.47 | Jamash | where di you put the script? |
| 15:03.14 | Jamash | also, the files in source/ are for recompiling, the actual script used is embedded in extract.exe |
| 15:03.20 | Napoleone | aah |
| 15:03.26 | Napoleone | well modified the bat file then |
| 15:03.37 | Jamash | lemme poke around |
| 15:04.02 | Napoleone | works now |
| 15:04.05 | Jamash | orly |
| 15:04.11 | Napoleone | and a new error |
| 15:04.13 | Napoleone | gosh lol |
| 15:04.15 | Jamash | yay |
| 15:04.45 | Napoleone | File open result: Erroro #32 |
| 15:04.54 | Napoleone | is that its in use? |
| 15:04.55 | Jamash | stupid errnos |
| 15:05.00 | Jamash | is wow open? |
| 15:05.03 | Napoleone | yes |
| 15:05.06 | Jamash | yes |
| 15:05.06 | Napoleone | i cant lvl without ;P |
| 15:05.14 | Napoleone | let me retry when closing then |
| 15:05.18 | Jamash | kay |
| 15:05.43 | Napoleone | there ;P |
| 15:05.55 | Napoleone | why not just have the text File is open |
| 15:06.19 | Pertheria | because it might also mean the file is write protected |
| 15:06.23 | Napoleone | aaah |
| 15:06.26 | Pertheria | or that you dont have the correct permissions to read it |
| 15:06.28 | Pertheria | or |
| 15:06.34 | Napoleone | but write protected shouldnt mess with read |
| 15:06.35 | Napoleone | ;P |
| 15:06.54 | Jamash | someone filled our gbank with cookies -_- |
| 15:07.00 | Pertheria | haha |
| 15:07.01 | Napoleone | hehehe |
| 15:07.05 | alestane | Yay cookies. |
| 15:07.06 | Napoleone | jamash i did the same ;P |
| 15:07.10 | Napoleone | Chokolate cookies |
| 15:07.14 | Jamash | and by "someone" I mean "my sister" |
| 15:07.27 | Napoleone | hehe i was soo happy to find the beans i bought a GB full ;P |
| 15:07.36 | Napoleone | chefs hat thats 5 mins of cooking.. |
| 15:07.38 | Pertheria | i went on a few days ago, and someone had filled the highest ranked one ( one that least # of people have access to pull from ) with 20 stacks of wool |
| 15:07.52 | Jamash | wool sells for good money |
| 15:08.00 | Jamash | take it and auction it |
| 15:08.16 | Pertheria | that would work well, except that only the guild leader could pull more than 1 stack a day hehe |
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| 15:08.23 | Napoleone | lol i got a surprise from guildies when i logged on |
| 15:08.34 | Napoleone | they filled the gb with ore and herbs.. cata only ;P |
| 15:08.49 | Napoleone | the art one takes time ;P |
| 15:09.16 | nevcairiel | so paladin QQ filling up the forums yet? |
| 15:09.29 | smcn | wasn't it instantly? |
| 15:09.34 | smcn | like as soon as people noticed? |
| 15:09.49 | Napoleone | anyone got dps problems at 85? |
| 15:09.50 | smcn | idk i don't read the forums and only heal pvp on my paladin so i don't really care ;p |
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| 15:09.55 | Napoleone | my boomkin dps dropped like a rock |
| 15:09.58 | nevcairiel | Our paladins were like, i think i'm bguged, my holy light doesnt produce holy power anymore |
| 15:10.05 | smcn | lol |
| 15:10.18 | nevcairiel | after 3 relogs we just continued raiding, the blue post appeared later on |
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| 15:10.33 | nevcairiel | but its true, paladins were too strong |
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| 15:11.53 | Napoleone | mages are strong now |
| 15:18.28 | Lunessa | Everyone is going to have to suck up changes when Blizzard discovers that something isn't working right. Being a never-ending fountain of mana-less healing is obviously broken. *shrug* |
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| 15:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | Especially when they told us beforehand that their intention was to make healing a bit more challenging and require more thinking... |
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| 15:30.45 | bluspacecow | someone needs to make a whack a mole addon for healing |
| 15:30.49 | bluspacecow | a game within the game |
| 15:34.52 | Lopeppeppy | They did, it was called Decursive, and there was something for CT Raid once... |
| 15:35.01 | Napoleone | anyone know a mod that can replace the rep tab? |
| 15:35.02 | Lopeppeppy | I remember that, just listed the lowest like 10 players or something. |
| 15:35.32 | Lopeppeppy | Or was that healbot? |
| 15:35.43 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 15:37.46 | bluspacecow | no |
| 15:37.51 | bluspacecow | i mean with actual moles |
| 15:38.03 | bluspacecow | the lower the party members health the taller their mole is |
| 15:38.16 | bluspacecow | and your healing spells produce a giant hammer to whack them |
| 15:40.50 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, that would be neat. |
| 15:41.02 | smcn | Lopeppeppy: ctraid did that back in the day |
| 15:41.02 | Lopeppeppy | But I think prohibited by Bliz. :) |
| 15:41.20 | smcn | oh yeah, you said that |
| 15:41.27 | smcn | i guess i should read back farther next time |
| 15:41.28 | smcn | :P |
| 15:41.43 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 15:41.52 | cbreak | it can still be done, just not with priority sorted moles |
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| 15:45.43 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:45.51 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 15:45.55 | Fisker | what about a game within a game within a game? |
| 15:46.03 | bluspacecow | <----- likes being slapped with a fish by fisker |
| 15:46.06 | Napoleone | within the matrix |
| 15:46.19 | bluspacecow | invigorating. |
| 15:50.10 | TC-Work | Kraps: you getting killing floor? |
| 15:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | bluspacecow, you're kinky. |
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| 15:58.33 | cogwheel | bah stupid youtube |
| 15:58.51 | cogwheel | i was inside my mob spawner in my latest recording. Due to coincidence of geometry, there's a swastika in the middle. |
| 15:58.57 | cogwheel | and youtube chose it for the thumbnail |
| 15:59.06 | cogwheel | which may take up to 6 hours to update after changing it |
| 15:59.57 | nevcairiel | coincidence, wink wink |
| 16:00.06 | nevcairiel | google knows all! |
| 16:00.42 | bluspacecow | mob spawner ? |
| 16:00.47 | bluspacecow | wot dat frogwheel ? |
| 16:01.03 | nevcairiel | that minecraft blurp is what i am guessing |
| 16:01.05 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMqwWoXEw4 |
| 16:01.32 | nevcairiel | big pixels much |
| 16:01.45 | cogwheel | lern2minecraft |
| 16:01.57 | nevcairiel | it looks like a game from the 90s |
| 16:02.04 | cogwheel | kinda the point... |
| 16:02.13 | cogwheel | explicit emphasis on gameplay |
| 16:02.40 | nevcairiel | even when you emphasise on gameplay, you can bother to construct pixels that are not the size of someones head |
| 16:02.58 | cogwheel | there are "hd" texture packs |
| 16:03.37 | cogwheel | and i've heard he's hir(ed/ing) an actual graphic artist to redo the textures |
| 16:05.05 | nevcairiel | anyone know how much spell penetration oyu need in pvp on 85 now? |
| 16:05.18 | cogwheel | but yeah, the thing about retro games was that pixels were pixels. in a 3d world, if you're up against the wall, your effective screen resolution might be 9x5 |
| 16:05.59 | cogwheel | but i like it :P |
| 16:10.19 | cbreak | nevcairiel: spell penetration is to counteract resistance, right? |
| 16:10.29 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:10.34 | cbreak | nevcairiel: so as much as you want to negate :) |
| 16:10.49 | Napoleone | what |
| 16:10.56 | Napoleone | what about armor penetration then |
| 16:11.03 | nevcairiel | that negates armor |
| 16:11.04 | cbreak | mage armor gives 44 resistance |
| 16:11.11 | nevcairiel | with the diff that mobs have armor |
| 16:11.16 | nevcairiel | but dont have spell resistance |
| 16:11.22 | Napoleone | cspell penetration doesnt negate resilience |
| 16:11.30 | Napoleone | it negates spell resistance |
| 16:11.40 | nevcairiel | you're the first to say resilience |
| 16:12.17 | cbreak | nevcairiel, maybe you can parse that for motw |
| 16:12.19 | cbreak | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=1126 |
| 16:12.30 | cbreak | are there any other major resistance sources? |
| 16:12.35 | cbreak | probably not from gear |
| 16:12.36 | nevcairiel | totem/aura |
| 16:12.42 | nevcairiel | motw is 97, btw |
| 16:12.43 | cbreak | haven't seen resistance gear in years |
| 16:12.45 | nevcairiel | is druid |
| 16:12.54 | Napoleone | sorry lol my brain plays tricks on me |
| 16:14.05 | cbreak | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=19891/resistance-aura for the aura. totems are probably the same |
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| 16:42.23 | foxlit | I have a secret plan. |
| 16:42.30 | Lopeppeppy | Is no longer secret. |
| 16:42.35 | Lopeppeppy | Is still a plan. |
| 16:42.40 | foxlit | It will no longer be secret once I tell you about it |
| 16:42.56 | foxlit | I want to silence clearcasting; and for that, I'm guessing, I need a file path |
| 16:43.09 | foxlit | How do I figure out *which* file path I'm looking for? |
| 16:44.00 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, it's almost noon... *big eyes* http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=talking+kitty+cat&aq=f |
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| 16:44.56 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Indeed. |
| 16:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | This one especially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV0dojOzfnY |
| 16:45.29 | Lopeppeppy | I am done being cute. |
| 16:45.30 | Lunessa | foxlit: Extract the MPQS!~ |
| 16:46.54 | foxlit | which MPQs and with what? :) |
| 16:47.11 | mikma | ith loltools |
| 16:47.14 | mikma | with* |
| 16:50.41 | Lunessa | foxlit: www.devklog.net - MPQ Extractor.app |
| 16:51.07 | foxlit | In this case, I'd probably prefer a .exe |
| 16:52.51 | Shirik | Adys |
| 16:52.53 | Shirik | sup |
| 16:53.54 | Lunessa | foxlit: http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html - but I can't vouch for them. |
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| 16:57.45 | Shirik | fun Lopeppeppy :) |
| 16:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | Kitty kitty, wake up kitty! |
| 16:57.59 | Shirik | maybe that's why I should get a cat |
| 16:58.02 | Lopeppeppy | *grin* |
| 16:58.05 | Shirik | but really cats are boring |
| 16:58.09 | Shirik | dogs are so much more fun |
| 16:58.11 | Lopeppeppy | I adore my two cats, as different as they are in temper. |
| 16:58.32 | Shirik | I mean look at him he's jus sitting there like "wtf are you doing" |
| 16:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | They're only boring if you let them be. There's always someone awake to play with me, cuddle me, help me make the bed... and they don't need to be walked at oh-god-thirty either. :) |
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| 17:02.47 | Shirik | since when do cats play |
| 17:03.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:03.57 | Fisker | can i have everything i want? |
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| 17:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you must only know older cats! Both of mine love to play with twist ties, bottle tops, the drip from the faucet, strings, invisible aliens, and incidentally any toys I have specifically purchased for them, when the other items aren't available. |
| 17:06.28 | Lopeppeppy | Moose also adores to steal pens and pencils. Cannot keep track of them around her, it's a wicked game to her. |
| 17:06.43 | Lopeppeppy | Laser pointer? Drives a cat crazy! |
| 17:07.13 | Alram | Kalroth, what happened to you friend |
| 17:07.34 | Kalroth | wat |
| 17:07.43 | Alram | why so not #mmo-champion |
| 17:08.19 | Kalroth | It got too noisy :) |
| 17:08.25 | Alram | :( |
| 17:12.08 | Lunessa | Cats also love paper bags, cardboard boxes, your hair, shoestrings, and any body parts exposed buy the covers. |
| 17:12.20 | Jamash | and my ankles |
| 17:12.29 | Lunessa | And now... long AFK. |
| 17:12.31 | Kalroth | keyboards |
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| 17:16.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, and body parts hiding under the covers! Bed mice! |
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| 17:18.57 | foxlit | wonders how fast GetAttribute is |
| 17:19.31 | alestane | I think it's fairly fast. Basically a table lookup. |
| 17:19.55 | alestane | It's obviously slower if you use the prefix-suffix form. |
| 17:20.20 | foxlit | Nah, I'm just contemplating whether I want to abuse attributes as a table |
| 17:21.34 | alestane | Than I think it adds a Lua function call and a small amount of C overhead to a table lookup. |
| 17:22.43 | foxlit | alternatively, I'm doing two table lookups |
| 17:23.27 | foxlit | Probably easiest to just use a table |
| 17:24.12 | Mirrormn | tem is always telling me that Lua->C overhead is actually fairly significant |
| 17:25.17 | Thrae | I think it is significant if you're doing heavy database work. |
| 17:27.19 | Ackis | http://socialfresh.com/how-much-money-do-community-managers-make-infographic/ |
| 17:28.51 | Thrae | Ackis: Fun to look at but overall not very accurate. |
| 17:29.34 | Thrae | 146 respondants and only 8% are contractors...that's *definitely* not right. Having worked in the field myself that number should be much, much higher. |
| 17:29.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... much. |
| 17:29.57 | Lopeppeppy | Ours is a 2 year contract, but still a contractor. |
| 17:31.30 | Thrae | Mine was 1 year with a mandatory 90-day unpaid break before a new contract, even the same one, could be established. |
| 17:37.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh. Very interesting clause there. |
| 17:42.58 | Thrae | Yeah I think it's so they can avoid any firing problems if they want to "rotate" their staff; even if the current staff has good performance. |
| 17:43.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, gives them an automatic exit strategy. |
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| 17:49.48 | Ackis | rotates his staff. |
| 17:50.29 | TC-Work | hands Ackis some lube |
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| 18:00.13 | Fisker | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7072/2334064bfmt2tgjc2b4dtg.jpg <-OLOLOLOL AMD |
| 18:01.49 | Shirik | just finished his last school task, ever |
| 18:01.52 | Shirik | except for commencement, of course |
| 18:01.57 | Shirik | very sad :( |
| 18:02.24 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Shirik |
| 18:02.27 | Fisker | OLOLOL with me |
| 18:02.35 | smcn | Shirik: grats man! just finished my first semester :P |
| 18:05.19 | Ackis | http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/em01h/how_i_got_an_uncooperative_ebay_buyer_to_pay_for/ |
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| 18:21.39 | Cide | Shirik: until you go back to get your phd in three months! |
| 18:23.36 | Fisker | Cide |
| 18:23.39 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:23.40 | Shirik | uh no |
| 18:23.41 | Cide | fiskar |
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| 18:25.56 | Shirik | I don't really find a phd to be useful atm |
| 18:26.06 | Cide | you say that now! |
| 18:26.10 | Shirik | I'd rather be involved in actual development |
| 18:26.14 | Shirik | I find PhDs to be more theoretical work |
| 18:26.18 | Cide | agreed |
| 18:26.26 | syrae | I want a PhD so I can wear a silly hat |
| 18:26.34 | Cide | I don't get why websites keep preventing right-clicking |
| 18:26.37 | syrae | which is one of the worst reasons ever |
| 18:26.38 | Cide | that's so 1995 |
| 18:26.45 | Shirik | however "Dr. Del Buono" does kinda sound awesome |
| 18:26.52 | Cide | haha |
| 18:26.53 | Cide | it does |
| 18:27.15 | Cide | though Dr. Shirikitty has a bond-esque flavor |
| 18:27.18 | syrae | Shirik: you could just be a Dr. in Horribleness |
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| 18:28.07 | Lopeppeppy | You could always play doctor instead of all of that boring studying. |
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| 18:33.53 | foxlit | Fun fact: Vial of the Sand links in game do not show "Binds on pick up" |
| 18:34.07 | Shirik | but are they? |
| 18:34.40 | foxlit | Dunno. |
| 18:34.55 | Cide | mmo-c says it was removed |
| 18:35.05 | Cide | but they could just have the same info you do |
| 18:35.38 | Shirik | I would assume it's just a flag in the db |
| 18:35.42 | Cide | yeah |
| 18:35.47 | Shirik | I don't really see how you could screw up the tooltip for that |
| 18:35.51 | Cide | I would be surprised if it was a different flag for "bop" and "show as bop" |
| 18:36.04 | Cide | or equivalent |
| 18:36.17 | Cide | in fact that would be insane |
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| 18:36.54 | foxlit | tooltip data is local, though |
| 18:37.03 | foxlit | what the server actually enforces is entirely separate |
| 18:37.18 | Shirik | true, but the game also enforces it |
| 18:37.20 | foxlit | [isn't that the case? Dunno] |
| 18:37.24 | Shirik | and I don't see a good reason for them to accidentally get out of sync |
| 18:37.32 | Shirik | the client, that is |
| 18:37.56 | Cide | tooltip data is grabbed from the server and cached, yes |
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| 18:38.21 | Cide | so it'd have to be an out of sync error like Shirik said, but I've never seen that or heard about it |
| 18:39.20 | nevcairiel | didnt the hotfix message from blizzard even say its no longer bop |
| 18:39.46 | Cide | that would be another good source! |
| 18:40.31 | nevcairiel | you should read those things, they are far more detailed then any patch notes! |
| 18:40.44 | Cide | I have been |
| 18:40.46 | Cide | just not every day |
| 18:40.58 | Cide | and I'm only 73 so not a lot is changing for me |
| 18:41.01 | nevcairiel | I read them today to get all excited about paladin nerfs |
| 18:41.29 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:41.32 | Fisker | i ololold |
| 18:41.42 | Fisker | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7072/2334064bfmt2tgjc2b4dtg.jpg |
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| 18:42.10 | nevcairiel | looks like heat induced funnyness |
| 18:42.20 | nevcairiel | also, make those damn shops have the 580 in stock |
| 18:43.58 | foxlit | s/8/7/, yeah? |
| 18:44.06 | nevcairiel | that would work for me too |
| 18:44.07 | Thrae | Despite my paranoia I'm going to have to disable the SHELLCODE x86 NOOP detection in snort. |
| 18:44.11 | nevcairiel | but its not really available either |
| 18:44.53 | Fisker | no nevcairiel |
| 18:45.15 | Fisker | AMD manually cut the corners of the connector on all their 6900's cards because the heatsink can't fit |
| 18:45.21 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:45.30 | Fisker | (and they said nvidia was incompetent) |
| 18:45.53 | nevcairiel | amd still doesnt have anything to battle the 580 though, which i think is funny |
| 18:47.47 | nevcairiel | i found a shop this morning that supposedly had the 570 in stock, once i finished my order, it showed out of stock |
| 18:47.52 | nevcairiel | either i got the last one, or they tricked me |
| 18:47.55 | nevcairiel | going to call them tomorrow |
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| 18:49.32 | foxlit | what are you upgrading from? |
| 18:50.31 | nevcairiel | basically a 460, but i got someone to sell it to for 100 â¬, so its a good deal |
| 18:50.39 | Thrae | I have a GTX 470 OC myself and I like it. I got it on a very good sale for the price of (at the time) a 460 GTX 1GB OC. The 500 series wasn't available at the time. |
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| 18:52.03 | Thrae | My GTX 470 OC might have horrible TDP, but price:performance it's awesome for what I paid for it. |
| 18:52.31 | Thrae | And that's the important part. Unless low TDP matters to you. |
| 18:52.49 | nevcairiel | its nice, but not important |
| 18:52.59 | nevcairiel | i like the new quiet cooler of the 5xx though |
| 18:53.14 | nevcairiel | its close to the 460 |
| 18:53.30 | Cide | I find it awesome that my priest in 4.x solos elites better than my dk did pre-nerf (in dragonblight) |
| 18:53.41 | Shirik | Saddest place on earth: http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/picturethis3.png |
| 18:53.51 | Cide | :'( |
| 18:53.53 | Thrae | Yeah quiet for me, personally, is not an issue. My 470 isn't the loudest device in my room. |
| 18:54.01 | Cide | I liked what the beijing airport had |
| 18:54.07 | Cide | or have rather |
| 18:54.19 | Cide | they have a sign saying "Please do not climb and take care of the children" |
| 18:54.24 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:54.29 | Thrae | But that's a good point -- TDP + dB are two things some people really do care about. |
| 18:54.46 | nevcairiel | I just dont want a 480 monster that definately is the loudest thing in my pc |
| 18:55.43 | Thrae | Yeah, for me, I have stuff like multiple Kaze "Scythes" and my most powerful fan, 110CFM Coolermaster. |
| 18:55.57 | Thrae | Right now the sides are off and it's even louder |
| 18:56.32 | nevcairiel | the 580 was a good fit, but its not available anywhere, and the 570 is fast enough, i guess, if i can get one of those |
| 18:56.38 | nevcairiel | damn low availability |
| 18:56.59 | Shirik | what is this 480 580 |
| 18:57.06 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:57.15 | nevcairiel | nvidia geforce gtx <insert number> |
| 18:57.19 | Shirik | yeah got it |
| 18:57.23 | Shirik | for some reason I was thinking speakers |
| 18:57.24 | Thrae | Honestly I think the GTX 470 OC I have is way more power than I need except to play around with some advanced features in a couple of game engines. |
| 18:57.33 | Shirik | though some graphics cards probably could dual as speakers |
| 18:58.23 | Thrae | On topic with WoW, I can fly up in Stormwind (the new central hub) with max settings, 2560x1600 2xAA, and max view distance looking down and still get more than 60 FPS on the D3D11 engine. |
| 18:58.46 | nevcairiel | only 2xAA? :P |
| 18:59.03 | Shirik | one of the first purchases I'm making when I start my new job |
| 18:59.08 | Shirik | a new computer |
| 18:59.17 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Do you have a 2560x1600 screen? The more you increase resolution, especially past what the game's optimized for, the less AA you need. |
| 18:59.17 | Shirik | I will destroy your quality |
| 18:59.40 | haste | one going to order a new monitor soon! |
| 18:59.41 | Thrae | Most games I don't need AA at all with 2560x1600 |
| 18:59.50 | haste | Dell U3011 or U2711, not entirely sure yet |
| 18:59.53 | Shirik | that's probably because there's no aliasing to anti |
| 19:00.03 | Thrae | Shirik: Pretty much |
| 19:00.12 | foxlit | Thrae: one would think that's a function of pixel density rather than resolution |
| 19:00.15 | Shirik | anti is now officially a verb |
| 19:00.17 | nevcairiel | 30" is too big |
| 19:00.29 | nevcairiel | unless you sit like 2 meters away |
| 19:00.30 | nevcairiel | but then |
| 19:00.31 | Thrae | foxlit: Right |
| 19:00.32 | nevcairiel | just move closer! |
| 19:00.46 | haste | already played SC2 on 30" |
| 19:00.48 | haste | awesome stuff |
| 19:01.06 | nevcairiel | It might feel awesome, but your eye movement will be so extreme that you get tired sooner! |
| 19:01.06 | Thrae | Anyway I hope to sell this 2560x1600 in 2011 for a 4360p monitor no bigger than 40". |
| 19:01.20 | haste | my eye movement is already extreme |
| 19:01.37 | Thrae | Super High-Def is the future! |
| 19:01.59 | nevcairiel | I'm happy with my 2 24s |
| 19:02.04 | nevcairiel | dont need much more screen estate |
| 19:02.33 | syrae | I'm rocking two 24"s as well |
| 19:02.40 | syrae | <3 |
| 19:02.41 | Cide | 3 screens is where it's at |
| 19:02.44 | nevcairiel | all i really do on it is playing wow and programming though |
| 19:02.50 | syrae | One is for WoW, one is for web pages and IRC |
| 19:03.11 | Cide | one is for programming, another for documentation and the third for output |
| 19:03.20 | Thrae | Sorry, that's 4320p not 4360p (7680 × 4320, and I want that at 60Hz at least) |
| 19:03.21 | Cide | that's how dedicated I am |
| 19:04.08 | haste | my desk can't fit three screens! |
| 19:04.13 | Thrae | Cide: I'm more dedicated than you -- I have 5 screens. One is a small 7" just for IMs and various debug information that sits below my 30" in the space between the 30" screen and my desk. |
| 19:04.21 | haste | or it can, but it would require some minor work |
| 19:04.38 | nevcairiel | gfx cards cant even power that resolution |
| 19:04.42 | nevcairiel | doubt they can in 2011 |
| 19:04.51 | Cide | Thrae: good, I don't like being the fringe case |
| 19:05.18 | Thrae | Cide: I also work from home, too. |
| 19:06.17 | nevcairiel | i need a laptop that can power two screens while keeping its own screen active as well |
| 19:06.28 | nevcairiel | all i have seen is either its own and one external, and two external and its own goes off |
| 19:06.29 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, you don't want much. :) |
| 19:06.30 | Cide | Thrae: oh yeah? well I STUDY from home |
| 19:07.06 | Thrae | nevcairiel: The cards themselves can, but probably not the PCI-Express 2.0 bus running at 60 Hz/FPS. |
| 19:09.32 | nevcairiel | there is no connector that supports it, HDMI and DP all max out at 4K, |
| 19:09.32 | Thrae | If we have 1920x1200x32x60 pixel bits to worry about per second, that's only 0.514984130859375 GB/s. |
| 19:09.38 | Gnarfoz | what the fuck has pci-e to do with how many outputs a gfx gard can support?! |
| 19:09.54 | Gnarfoz | PCI-E doesn't run at "60Hz" either |
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| 19:10.53 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 19:11.00 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: We're talking resolution support, and the max frames per second is important because PCI Express is judged in GB/s. |
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| 19:11.50 | Thrae | 2.0 has an aggregate of 16 GB/s through a full 32 lanes. |
| 19:11.55 | foxlit | PCI express has nothing to do with it, though |
| 19:12.06 | nevcairiel | DP maxes out at 17GBit/s |
| 19:12.09 | foxlit | Your pictures aren't being streamed from somewhere over the PCIE bus. |
| 19:12.15 | nevcairiel | 4K already requires 16GBit/s |
| 19:12.27 | nevcairiel | 3,840 Ã 2,160 = 4K, for the record |
| 19:12.45 | Gnarfoz | great, great, still, that 60Hz FPS thing was utter nonsense |
| 19:12.48 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 19:13.07 | Gnarfoz | and as foxlit said, pci-e is irrelevant, too |
| 19:13.11 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Explain yourself or shut the hell up. |
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| 19:13.45 | Gnarfoz | I did explain myself: PCI-E does not run at "60Hz/FPS", and it has nothing to do with resolution support, as foxlit also just said. |
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| 19:15.19 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: All you're saying is that "it doesn't work that way." That's not an explanation. That's a supposed statement of fact, to which I believe you are either misunderstanding what I was saying, or is plain wrong. So either explain *why* a bus measured in GB/s doesn't matter how much GB/s is pushed through it on its way from the software to your monitor. |
| 19:15.33 | Gnarfoz | it's not pushed through it. |
| 19:15.53 | Gnarfoz | the gpu generates it, rasters it, and passed it on to its output |
| 19:16.02 | Gnarfoz | *rasterizes (bleh) |
| 19:16.15 | nevcairiel | the actual image is produced in the GPU and never sees the PCIe bus |
| 19:16.19 | nevcairiel | the framebuffer is on the GPU |
| 19:17.23 | nevcairiel | what is maxxed out is the connection to the display |
| 19:17.27 | Thrae | OK, so my calculations were wrong there. I now realize I was thinking of SLI/Crossfire debates. |
| 19:17.41 | nevcairiel | thats why those have an external connector :) |
| 19:18.44 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Thank you for explaining yourself. |
| 19:19.59 | Thrae | Now I'm going to take a break from IRC because it's obvious I don't have 100% of my shields up to need the necessary "thick skin" that #wowuidev requires. |
| 19:20.45 | Gnarfoz | mea culpa, I could have been more friendly about it, too^^ |
| 19:21.11 | Gnarfoz | on a side note: the task manager on my phone is officially by "Samsung Electornics" |
| 19:24.50 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Although you're right about HDMI and DP. I'll settle for <=30" 4096×2160p24. |
| 19:25.27 | nevcairiel | 24p is only for movies, and i want a bigger screen for that :) |
| 19:26.26 | Fisker | your penis |
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| 19:30.47 | xqo | hey |
| 19:31.20 | xqo | why does my macro to cancel all auctions that have item-names starting with "Glyph of" no longer work? http://xqo.pastebin.com/us0Bfx1f |
| 19:31.39 | xqo | it cancels the last auction in the list, and then it stops |
| 19:31.47 | xqo | before 401 it worked great |
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| 19:33.56 | Dagmar | Probably because cancels require hardware events now |
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| 19:36.29 | xqo | so every cancel requires a click? |
| 19:37.05 | Nechckn | 'zactly, xqo |
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| 19:38.08 | xqo | pfff.... |
| 19:38.16 | xqo | how do you guys deal with that? |
| 19:38.25 | xqo | do you click-cancel all your auctions every time? |
| 19:38.33 | Nechckn | click the box - there is no way around it |
| 19:38.37 | xqo | getting richer is gonna be a B! |
| 19:38.44 | Nechckn | Most folks just leave them up |
| 19:38.45 | Dagmar | I don't have very many auctions that don't sell. |
| 19:39.12 | xqo | me neither, but after a while i need to re-post them to undercut |
| 19:39.13 | Dagmar | xqo: Try crafting things. |
| 19:39.20 | Nechckn | Price smart, as high as you can reasonably expect an item to sell, leave it for 48 == Profit. |
| 19:39.52 | Dagmar | You don't "need" to undercut. You need to figure out how much lower you should have posted it in the first place |
| 19:39.56 | Nechckn | If anyone undercuts you - it may be snapped up, leaving yours for the next guy - or if it is cheap enough, buy it yourself and repost it. |
| 19:40.59 | Nechckn | Just adjust your $$ expectation from I need whatever I can get out of an item, even if it is pennies to Put items up, let soak, collect cash when it comes in. |
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| 19:42.35 | drag0nius | hey |
| 19:42.42 | drag0nius | spellID is same as in link on wowhead? |
| 19:43.01 | drag0nius | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31935 Avanger's Shield id is 31935? |
| 19:43.27 | xqo | does posting auctions require clicks too? Auctioneer gives me this warning asking if its ok to post x many stacks of item y for z gold now. |
| 19:44.01 | drag0nius | posting auctions require hardware event now |
| 19:44.13 | drag0nius | since cata patch |
| 19:44.30 | xqo | guuuuhhhhh.... |
| 19:44.40 | drag0nius | yea, exactly xD |
| 19:44.52 | drag0nius | cant just press post and go take a shower ;( |
| 19:45.34 | xqo | yes, drag0nius, the spellID is the same |
| 19:45.39 | Gnarfoz | funny thing, because it only penalizes normal guys, the botters still get away with it |
| 19:45.40 | Dagmar | THis misery pleases me greatly. Do you have a webcam? |
| 19:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | Botters gonna hate eventually |
| 19:46.07 | Dagmar | Botters are the only thing that are mass-cancelled now. |
| 19:46.27 | Dagmar | You know another wave of that is coming up just in time for the holidays, too |
| 19:46.29 | Nechckn | Gnarfoz Eh, it killed off a *lot* of the insta-script kiddies, though |
| 19:46.42 | Nechckn | If you really want to do it now, it should be easily traceable |
| 19:47.00 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: what are they gonna hate? *nothing* changed for them, blizzard's change was pointless |
| 19:47.19 | Lopeppeppy | [14:46] <+Nechckn> Gnarfoz Eh, it killed off a *lot* of the insta-script kiddies, though |
| 19:47.27 | Dagmar | Blizzard's change was not pointless. |
| 19:47.34 | drag0nius | should be but tss... xD |
| 19:47.52 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: not sure what that's supposed to signify. |
| 19:48.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nechckn, can you explain to Gnarfoz, or are you at work too? |
| 19:48.14 | Gnarfoz | any script kiddie who wants to do it now will use AHK or owns a macroable keyboard/mouse :D |
| 19:48.24 | Nechckn | Sort of a QFT - is what it usually means. |
| 19:48.38 | Dagmar | ...and the moment they mass-post 1,000 auctions in three minutes, they're fucked. |
| 19:48.42 | Nechckn | Briefly, sure... |
| 19:48.51 | Gnarfoz | that's not even possible due to server delay. |
| 19:48.58 | Gnarfoz | (or inventory size) |
| 19:49.00 | Dagmar | qq more |
| 19:49.06 | Nechckn | Basically, you need to go out of your way and install crap that Warden can catch. |
| 19:49.22 | xqo | dagmar that wont happen with a keyboard/mouse-macro |
| 19:49.31 | xqo | both my mouse and keyboard can add delays to their macros |
| 19:49.44 | Gnarfoz | and Warden does next to nothing, given its potential |
| 19:50.01 | xqo | are mouse/keyboard macros illegal anyway? |
| 19:50.08 | xqo | im sure there must be lots of people using them |
| 19:50.09 | Gnarfoz | as soon as they add delays, yes |
| 19:50.24 | Gnarfoz | but it's not like blizzard is going around banning people for it since they have no way of detecing it. |
| 19:50.49 | Nechckn | Okay.. before, you had 200 gold sellers or whatever using real clickers and 2 million little bastards using in-game macros to Post, cancel, undercut, repost and sit there for hours doing it with no intervention. |
| 19:51.02 | Nechckn | No, you only have the 200 gold sellers - or whoever. |
| 19:51.20 | Nechckn | That was the point of the change - and it is very easy to see that it has been effective |
| 19:51.25 | Arrowmaster | just dont go using them to keep you from going afk, if they find out you do that then they will ban you |
| 19:51.33 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: You should rally look into statistical analysis sometime. |
| 19:51.43 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: you should really look into not belittling people sometime |
| 19:51.47 | Dagmar | You too |
| 19:52.03 | Gnarfoz | drink more blizzard kool-aid ;-) |
| 19:52.09 | Dagmar | Learn math. |
| 19:52.28 | Gnarfoz | you think that people use ingame macros when there's QA or APM? |
| 19:52.51 | Gnarfoz | click one button as many times as you need, run to mailbox, repeat |
| 19:53.08 | Nechckn | You did not need to do any of that before |
| 19:53.23 | Gnarfoz | indeed, QA did it *all* automatically |
| 19:54.05 | Nechckn | And that was the problem - Blizz has been clear they want user interaction for whatever - and folks were not even having to be near their machine. |
| 19:54.42 | Gnarfoz | one click to post 1x[your inventory], one click to cancel 1x[everything that needs to be undercut] |
| 19:54.44 | Nechckn | Now the great majority are... sure, they can still do it all, but it takes a lot more effort and time, which most would rather spend doing other things. |
| 19:55.12 | Dagmar | ...which means they spend less time sitting in the auction house, slowly turning tradechat into 4-chan |
| 19:55.14 | Gnarfoz | that's the thing that I harshly disagree with: the only thing they now need to do is get AHK or have a macro-capable keyboard/mouse (which many gamers do) |
| 19:55.18 | drag0nius | what was command to open errors frame? |
| 19:56.13 | Nechckn | Disagree away- not saying it is perfect, but it has drastically cut down the amount of folks doing it - based on six different servers. |
| 19:56.19 | Gnarfoz | I just don't see how forcing people - who were already pushing the edge of what blizzard would allow - to do something obviously against the rules is "raising the bar enough" |
| 19:56.29 | drag0nius | doh |
| 19:56.38 | drag0nius | i screwed sth in my macro addon and idk what ;d |
| 19:56.59 | Nechckn | And from input from our users, so... whatever, really. Same with anything in-game- of course you can cheat, but the harder it is, then the less will do it. |
| 19:57.19 | Nechckn | * "cheat" since everyone has their own definition |
| 19:57.19 | Gnarfoz | I guess so |
| 19:57.40 | drag0nius | well, botting isnt cheating :P |
| 19:57.47 | Gnarfoz | urrm yes it is. |
| 19:57.49 | drag0nius | cheating is use of speedhack etc :P |
| 19:58.09 | drag0nius | doing sth game does not allow to |
| 19:58.18 | Gnarfoz | cheating is "gaining an unfair advantage" |
| 19:58.21 | drag0nius | but thats just my opinion :P |
| 19:58.33 | Nechckn | As I said, the definition is flexible when it comes to the word around games. |
| 19:58.41 | Gnarfoz | by most people's definition "playing the game without being there" would fulfill that defintion ^^ |
| 19:58.50 | drag0nius | hmm |
| 19:58.53 | Dagmar | If you're supposed to be doing it then having a script doing it all for you is cheating |
| 19:58.56 | drag0nius | when i make addon for long macros |
| 19:59.09 | drag0nius | it is 1023 chars per line |
| 19:59.11 | drag0nius | or per macro? |
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| 20:00.36 | Gnarfoz | anyway, mass-posting now requires me to sacrifice about ~130 keypresses per inventory load, it's not that much of a problem. not that I was currently able to actually craft new glyphs since blizzard switched which ink you need to trade in... ;F |
| 20:00.55 | drag0nius | and ethereal ink still not fixed? xd |
| 20:01.27 | Nechckn | Yeah, it is not that hard- batch post, then hover mouse and click away. |
| 20:01.55 | Nechckn | Or... whatever you use =) |
| 20:02.04 | drag0nius | guys is it right way of checking if my char is paladin? |
| 20:02.04 | drag0nius | if ( UnitClass("player"):lower() == "paladin" ) |
| 20:02.09 | Gnarfoz | drag0nius: it's fixed |
| 20:02.13 | drag0nius | yay |
| 20:02.28 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 20:02.32 | Gnarfoz | Nechckn: /click AuctionProfitMasterPostButton (or something) :\ |
| 20:02.55 | Gnarfoz | pressing keyboard is somehow "easier" than clicking the mouse :D |
| 20:02.57 | drag0nius | do action bar containing only that macro |
| 20:03.02 | drag0nius | and have fun xD |
| 20:03.09 | Gnarfoz | it's bound to space |
| 20:03.22 | Gnarfoz | actually no, I changed that, space clatters too much (it's a bit loose) |
| 20:03.25 | bleeter | great, so it'd appear I can't level tailoring from 440 to 450 without going back and getting cata rep or shitloads of cata mats |
| 20:03.47 | Gnarfoz | I heard it's expensive as fuck to max tailoring out :o |
| 20:03.49 | Fisker | bleeter |
| 20:03.52 | drag0nius | so, is there sth wrong with UnitClass("player"):lower() == "paladin" ? |
| 20:04.22 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: gotta either craft 10 epics for the last points or get reputation recipes. suspect they're epics too, tho. |
| 20:04.43 | Gnarfoz | drag0nius: why're you lowercasing it? |
| 20:04.52 | bleeter | ie, shedloads of spell cloth n orbs n shit. GAH lol |
| 20:04.53 | drag0nius | cos idk which value is default ;D |
| 20:04.54 | Gnarfoz | also, second return of that would be locale independet |
| 20:05.04 | drag0nius | Paladin or PALADIN |
| 20:05.14 | Gnarfoz | *independent |
| 20:05.20 | Nechckn | Blame bleeter |
| 20:05.23 | Arrowmaster | drag0nius: select(2,UnitClass("player")) == "PALADIN" |
| 20:05.36 | bleeter | blames cogwheel |
| 20:05.51 | Lopeppeppy | watches |
| 20:06.01 | Gnarfoz | blames watches |
| 20:07.35 | drag0nius | hmm still nothing |
| 20:07.42 | drag0nius | idk what else could i fck up in my code |
| 20:08.23 | drag0nius | is there some code checker? XD |
| 20:09.25 | Nechckn | points to bleeter |
| 20:09.37 | Nechckn | Gives him something productive to do, besides grooming his wool. |
| 20:10.15 | Gnarfoz | there is, luac -p |
| 20:12.06 | drag0nius | and where to download it? |
| 20:12.17 | drag0nius | i see just http://www.lua.org/manual/4.0/luac.html |
| 20:12.24 | drag0nius | but no links |
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| 20:15.46 | Fisker | brrrr Gnarfoz |
| 20:16.15 | Gnarfoz | just download any lua binary distro |
| 20:16.21 | Gnarfoz | (also, 4.0 is ages old) |
| 20:16.37 | nevcairiel | thats just the manual section, not the version |
| 20:16.50 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 20:16.51 | industrial | wow uses 5.1, 5.2 is in alpha right now |
| 20:16.53 | nevcairiel | its actually the version |
| 20:17.05 | nevcairiel | the reference uses those numbers for sections |
| 20:17.34 | Gnarfoz | oh, haha |
| 20:17.41 | drag0nius | hmm theres sth like that http://addonstudio.codeplex.com/ ;d |
| 20:17.51 | nevcairiel | addonstudio sucks |
| 20:18.30 | drag0nius | how about WoWLua addon? |
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| 20:22.00 | drag0nius | lol |
| 20:22.03 | drag0nius | i forgot thens after if |
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| 20:23.18 | drag0nius | think i'll use wowlua :) |
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| 20:27.24 | syrae | OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG... I AM SO PANICING |
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| 20:40.36 | mikma | syrae: gz |
| 20:40.48 | syrae | gz? |
| 20:42.09 | mikma | yea, for panicing |
| 20:42.28 | Thrae | OK OK. I'll settle for a 1600p monitor with support for 120hz and 48bpp, hopefully also IPS. |
| 20:42.34 | syrae | yeaaaaah, well, I'm waiting on a job offer which I was told was coming "any minute now" |
| 20:43.11 | nevcairiel | Thrae: what do you need that for? |
| 20:43.22 | nevcairiel | are you a artist or something? |
| 20:43.44 | Cide | all programmers are artists! |
| 20:43.53 | syrae | an arteest! |
| 20:43.53 | Thrae | syrae: It's been a year and I'm still waiting for that "we need you desperately!" job offer. Apparently the division got into serious chaos. |
| 20:44.02 | nevcairiel | programmers can go with monochrome screens though |
| 20:44.07 | syrae | Thrae: heh. |
| 20:44.43 | Thrae | nevcairiel: You mean IPS specifically? I just prefer it over TN. PVA is also an option. 10/12-bit panels. |
| 20:44.54 | nevcairiel | not IPS, i have that too |
| 20:45.08 | syrae | I'm just excited/tense because it'll be a raise of a few tens of thousands a year, I think... |
| 20:45.13 | nevcairiel | but why were you looking for that high resolution anyway |
| 20:46.00 | Thrae | I already have 2560x1600 and I like it a lot...except the monitor is showing signs of wear and this particular model has serious input lag and problems at resolutions lower than native. |
| 20:46.24 | Thrae | I want to replace it with something a bit better before it dies. |
| 20:46.51 | Thrae | (Or at least becomes unsellable for a decent price) |
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| 20:47.18 | nevcairiel | also, you cannot use 48bpp with nvidia at the moment, only ati supports it in theory through DisplayPort |
| 20:47.46 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Really? That's in the HDMI spec. |
| 20:47.47 | olafski | does anyone know what the last "race" is in the archaeology screen? looks like an indiana jones hat and a pickaxe |
| 20:47.55 | Thrae | lemme check on that. |
| 20:47.55 | nevcairiel | yeah, not supported by nvidia, however |
| 20:48.03 | nevcairiel | also not by ATI on HDMI |
| 20:48.04 | nevcairiel | only DP |
| 20:48.16 | nevcairiel | DVI-DualLink also supports it |
| 20:48.18 | nevcairiel | in theory |
| 20:48.18 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 20:48.28 | syrae | olafski: there's currently no race associated with it. It's just a placeholder icon |
| 20:49.07 | nevcairiel | its hard to get working as it is |
| 20:49.20 | nevcairiel | my dell displays would accept 10bit per channel |
| 20:49.26 | nevcairiel | but i currently have no way to get it to them |
| 20:50.01 | olafski | syrae: ah, ok :) |
| 20:50.04 | nevcairiel | i wish ATI drivers wouldnt suck so bad, or the 6970 would be kinda attractive |
| 20:50.36 | syrae | also, Daft Punk at Tron premiere.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/crunkmagazine/5258641719/ |
| 20:51.22 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Ah well 36bpp is fine. I can't ask for too much when there's still so few 1600p out there right now. |
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| 20:52.51 | Thrae | For 1600p vs 2160p I have to check price vs image quality on a ~30" monitor. Even 2160p may be too much, especially if the pitch isn't as good for the lower-end. |
| 20:53.13 | nevcairiel | the high-density panel will also double the price |
| 20:53.24 | nevcairiel | If its even available |
| 20:54.36 | Thrae | Yeha there were 2160p ~30" monitors shown at CES 2010 in January so I'm betting they'll be available in 2011. |
| 20:55.15 | mikma | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/12/how_to_evoke_nerd_rage.php =)))))))))))))))) |
| 20:55.41 | zenzelezz | this goblin katamari quest is awesome |
| 20:55.44 | nevcairiel | these 2 will have to serve me for a while, maybe eventually i can add a bigger one in the middle, but i would have to get a second gpu just to drive the third screen, or go ATI |
| 20:56.34 | Thrae | Which two? |
| 20:57.16 | nevcairiel | two Dell U2410 |
| 20:58.26 | Thrae | Are you doing Surround / EyeFinity? |
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| 20:58.43 | nevcairiel | The reviews of the screen are all like, great screen, but the wide gamut mode has issues. I couldnt care less for wide gamut, it makes stuff look funky :P |
| 20:58.44 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:59.30 | nevcairiel | I dont play anything except WoW |
| 20:59.36 | nevcairiel | i mostly develop on them |
| 20:59.50 | Thrae | Ahh they're 1920x1200, gotcha |
| 21:00.14 | nevcairiel | I dont think i have seen a 24" with higher resolution |
| 21:00.24 | nevcairiel | the U2711 from Dell has 1600p |
| 21:00.29 | nevcairiel | but its like double the cost of the 24 |
| 21:01.49 | Thrae | Yeah there's a 27" of 2560x1400 and 30" of 2560x1600. The thing about them is that there's one version with less inputs and one version with more and the extra inputs are super-expensive. |
| 21:01.59 | Thrae | Mine's not even a Dell. |
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| 21:04.01 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i hope this damn shop can deliver on the 570 i ordered |
| 21:13.42 | Warlocomotif | anyone know the location of some opaque in-gametexture of the topof their head? |
| 21:15.02 | Warlocomotif | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18992-CleverArchaelogist.html |
| 21:15.03 | Warlocomotif | the texture used is horrible, figure Id rather find some opaque black texture or such |
| 21:21.03 | foxlit | The gryphon hatchling is adorable <3 |
| 21:21.21 | foxlit | solid color, Warlocomotif? |
| 21:23.52 | Cide | just use a solid texture with :SetAlpha() |
| 21:24.06 | Cide | solid color texture (what foxlit said) |
| 21:24.14 | Cide | or a backdrop |
| 21:26.30 | foxlit | hm. |
| 21:26.48 | foxlit | If I want to silence an ogg sound, can I just put an empty file in its place? |
| 21:29.56 | Warlocomotif | o_o |
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| 21:39.26 | Ackis | blargh |
| 21:40.08 | Ackis | bank locked my client card due to someplace I used it at being investigated for tampering |
| 21:40.26 | nevcairiel | dont go to shady places |
| 21:40.33 | Thrae | That happens to me often, but they're fairly quick at unlocking it per request |
| 21:40.48 | Thrae | Better hightened security than less-hightened for me right now |
| 21:41.36 | Ackis | the way they called seemed like a scam call so I hung up on htem lol |
| 21:41.36 | olafski | is there an addon that shows which archaeology finds you haven't "done" yet? :) |
| 21:42.14 | Ackis | olafski: Torhal was going to add that to collectinator *hides* |
| 21:42.31 | Thrae | olafski: Archy? |
| 21:42.41 | olafski | ackis: :) |
| 21:42.44 | olafski | thrae: lemme see :) |
| 21:43.27 | olafski | that looks great |
| 21:43.39 | olafski | thanks :) |
| 21:44.05 | Ackis | archy doesn't tell you what ones you haven't done yet |
| 21:45.02 | Thrae | Ackis: I admit I only glanced at it in game, but I remember it showing me various dig sites with "0/3" next to them. |
| 21:45.24 | Thrae | So what is it counting? |
| 21:45.24 | olafski | that's not what I wanted though.. sorry for being unclear |
| 21:45.43 | Ackis | the 0/3 for me tells me how many keystones it takes/how many I have |
| 21:45.52 | olafski | there are 7 rare night elf artifacts (according to wowpedia), I already have 5 of them, I'd like to know if there are more available |
| 21:45.54 | Thrae | ah |
| 21:45.58 | Warlocomotif | how hard would it be to make something along the lines of this: http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2331/archaeology.jpg |
| 21:45.58 | Warlocomotif | for archaeology? |
| 21:46.01 | olafski | for instance I already have both fossils so no point digging at those anymore |
| 21:46.48 | olafski | archy will help though I imagine, installed it.. gonna look at the options while I fly around |
| 21:47.02 | Thrae | Warlocomotif: Depends on what the circles represent? Take a look at GathererHud and see if those circles are to your needs. |
| 21:47.27 | foxlit | gr |
| 21:47.33 | foxlit | There's a second sound accompanying clearcasting |
| 21:47.37 | Warlocomotif | when you survey an area, you either get a red light, yellow, or greeen |
| 21:47.40 | foxlit | I can't figure out what it is :/ |
| 21:47.41 | Warlocomotif | green means its nearby |
| 21:47.45 | Warlocomotif | yellow somewhat distant |
| 21:47.48 | Warlocomotif | red means far |
| 21:47.55 | Thrae | foxlit: Hear Kitty? |
| 21:48.07 | foxlit | Thrae: I'm not running any addons that should interfere |
| 21:48.11 | Warlocomotif | the circles represent the area that the item can end yp being in |
| 21:48.21 | Warlocomotif | though I suppose the red circle should be far wider |
| 21:48.34 | Thrae | Just a wild guess -- that adds sounds to Cats |
| 21:48.42 | foxlit | I mean, there's the clearcasting noise (which you also hear) and then there's some other sound (I don't know -- gaining a buff or something). |
| 21:49.49 | Warlocomotif | @ Thrae I just searched wowi and curse for gatherer but dont see a hud version on either :s |
| 21:49.50 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 21:49.51 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 21:50.07 | Thrae | Yeah I know what you mean. I have a bunch of addons and just get one noise. |
| 21:50.15 | Thrae | Warlocomotif: wowace.com |
| 21:50.37 | Warlocomotif | ty |
| 21:51.39 | foxlit | what's the built in powerauras called? |
| 21:52.07 | Warlocomotif | gathererhud doesnt seem to be quite what im looking for |
| 21:52.38 | Thrae | No no I wasn't saying GathererHud would be exactly what you're looking for, I was asking if its circles were what you were talking about. |
| 21:53.06 | Thrae | AFAIk there's nothing like you're talking about so it would have to be designed (from a graphical standpoint on how it will look like) and then coded. |
| 21:53.25 | Warlocomotif | I think it would have more comparison to hudmap |
| 21:53.34 | Thrae | Gatherer2 will probably include some Archaeological support soon. |
| 21:54.31 | nevcairiel | GatherMate2 can track the positions where an artifact was, but honestly, i've been farming alot of artifacts, and they seem very random, very very rarely do the positions match |
| 21:54.48 | foxlit | nevcairiel: I'm having the opposite experience |
| 21:54.55 | foxlit | There are definite spawn spots, there are just many of them. |
| 21:55.14 | nevcairiel | If the whole area is full of spots, tracking it does no good either |
| 21:55.20 | Ackis | http://i54.tinypic.com/w9y0zn.jpg |
| 21:55.34 | foxlit | I like the picture idea, though |
| 21:55.46 | foxlit | http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/2331/archaeology.jpg |
| 21:55.57 | Ackis | http://i54.tinypic.com/w9y0zn.jpg |
| 21:55.58 | foxlit | It's neat; though it doesn't actually use everything it could. |
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| 21:56.44 | Warlocomotif | there was an in game command to create a ui element that listens to (and lists) all events right? what was the command? |
| 21:56.49 | foxlit | Still looking for any clues as to how the built-in power auras-style indication actually works |
| 21:57.00 | nevcairiel | It just does |
| 21:57.05 | foxlit | Can't seem to find the code anywhere |
| 21:57.56 | foxlit | ah, see it -- SpellActivationOverlay.lua |
| 21:58.20 | Warlocomotif | anyone? >_< |
| 21:58.49 | syrae | Warlocomotif: /eventrace |
| 21:58.53 | syrae | I think is what you want |
| 21:59.04 | syrae | er |
| 21:59.07 | syrae | two t's |
| 21:59.11 | foxlit | PlaySoundKitID(23287); |
| 21:59.11 | syrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.13 | foxlit | found you. |
| 21:59.16 | nevcairiel | event trace |
| 21:59.21 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 21:59.24 | nevcairiel | event race is fun too |
| 21:59.25 | Warlocomotif | ty syr |
| 21:59.27 | foxlit | [now what the heck is a sound kit ID and what does that actually play?] |
| 21:59.35 | nevcairiel | the ids are in the dbcs |
| 21:59.45 | nevcairiel | mapping to some file |
| 21:59.57 | Thrae | Warlocomotif: Thanks for HUDMap. I'll try it out. |
| 21:59.58 | syrae | is always surprised when she has useful information to share |
| 22:00.07 | Warlocomotif | :) |
| 22:00.07 | foxlit | The good news is that I don't have to mess with it, since it's local |
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| 22:04.47 | bleeter | no wonder you're all terribly quiet |
| 22:04.50 | bleeter | scrolls down |
| 22:04.57 | bleeter | waves to Nechckn |
| 22:05.02 | Aurorus | hehe |
| 22:05.17 | jscix1 | OOC. is it possible to pull stats on items types in your bagS? |
| 22:05.35 | jscix1 | eg: herb, ore, armor, weapon etc. |
| 22:05.54 | Cide | yes |
| 22:06.06 | jscix1 | danke |
| 22:12.05 | Thrae | Well |
| 22:12.27 | Thrae | I'm going to redirect people looking at TinyTip to use Leatrix Tooltip or TipTop instead. |
| 22:18.35 | foxlit | gr, UnitGUID("player") returns nil at launch |
| 22:18.59 | Thrae | Yeah that's why I usually grab them somewhere around PEW. |
| 22:19.17 | foxlit | sucks! |
| 22:21.40 | Warlocomotif | could someone confirm for me that archaeology doesn't send a lot of useful events to work with? |
| 22:22.39 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/143957-4690 << cue diabolical laughter |
| 22:26.12 | Gagorian | for i=1,#ids do ids[ids[i]], ids[i] = ids[i] end |
| 22:26.15 | Gagorian | right |
| 22:26.17 | Gagorian | :P |
| 22:28.06 | syrae | Warlocomotif: I've done some work on an archaeology mod. what do you need? |
| 22:28.33 | foxlit | syrae: guarantee to find the the relic on the third survey. Preferably :) |
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| 22:29.02 | syrae | foxlit: I guarantee it for everyone who gives me $5,000 in small bills |
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| 22:29.54 | Warlocomotif | syrae, basically I want to see if the game tells addons anything about how car and which direction to look in |
| 22:30.03 | Warlocomotif | or if that info is restricted for addons |
| 22:30.40 | syrae | Warlocomotif: There's no event that fires or has information about the survey apparatus. Ie: no info about direction or distance. |
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| 22:30.43 | foxlit | I can tell you that: there's no reason for the client to give you that information |
| 22:30.47 | foxlit | So the client does not. |
| 22:31.05 | syrae | also, what foxlit said |
| 22:31.37 | Warlocomotif | syrae: , thats what it looked like to me aswell |
| 22:31.55 | Warlocomotif | there are a few undocumented functions related to archaeology of which I have no idea how to use them |
| 22:32.22 | foxlit | Shamans. Clearcasting. Yay, nay? |
| 22:32.23 | syrae | Warlocomotif: the only things you'll see are dig site exhausted messages and chat_loot_msg with info about what you picked up, but that'll all AFTER you find your artifact |
| 22:33.10 | Warlocomotif | I assumed something like that :[ |
| 22:33.43 | syrae | Warlocomotif: I believe someone else was working on a direction finder addon, but it required the user to put in what color light and what direction. :-\ |
| 22:34.31 | Thrae | foxlit: Might as well steal all the Druid Resto Spells! |
| 22:34.44 | foxlit | Thrae: Elemental Focus |
| 22:34.46 | Warlocomotif | syrae, there's ckever archaeologist |
| 22:34.52 | Warlocomotif | if thats the one you mean |
| 22:35.04 | Thrae | New Shaman Heal -- "Nourishing Wave" |
| 22:35.16 | syrae | Warlocomotif: possibly |
| 22:35.39 | syrae | the only one i use is my silly one that doesn't do much |
| 22:35.54 | Thrae | foxlit: Elemental Focus of Clarity, they dropped the last part |
| 22:36.33 | zenzelezz | so it seems like every second quest in Uldum ends with a cutscene... |
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| 22:37.51 | syrae | zenzelezz: mostly the Harrison Jones line. |
| 22:37.55 | Thrae | "Well That'll Cut Into Your Grinding" -- "View all 100 cutscenes in Uldum." |
| 22:38.24 | DWSR | rofl, seriously |
| 22:38.26 | DWSR | ? |
| 22:38.48 | zenzelezz | nah, it just feels like that :-p |
| 22:39.28 | foxlit | but yes, cutscene central |
| 22:39.36 | foxlit | They're like "Oh hey, we can do cutscenes!" |
| 22:39.45 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 22:39.46 | DWSR | I noticed that. |
| 22:39.55 | DWSR | There's a lot of thoroughly unneccessary cutscenes. |
| 22:39.59 | foxlit | While what they should be like is "OH GOD WHY DID WE NOT VOICE THE GOBLIN?! WHY!!! WHY!!!" |
| 22:40.45 | Xyphoid | for archaeology, can you track the location of the relic you find gatherer-style? it appears there are fixed locations in each digsite |
| 22:40.46 | DWSR | Or, "Why is DW unholy a viable spec? And not only viable, but the highest DPS spec?" |
| 22:41.32 | syrae | So... how do you like my UI? http://i.imgur.com/eHQ7e.jpg |
| 22:41.33 | Warlocomotif | xyph, you can track where you loot the items pretty easily |
| 22:41.42 | Warlocomotif | aswell as the spellcast for uncovering it |
| 22:41.48 | nevcairiel | syrae: too much fur, it blocks the 3d world |
| 22:42.03 | DWSR | Even your cat thinks its hideous. |
| 22:42.09 | syrae | nevcairiel: yeah... I'm kinda think the same. :P |
| 22:43.10 | Lunessa | syrae: WoW-Cat is not impressed with your UI or your gear score. n00b. |
| 22:43.21 | DWSR | New gear scale: Catscore. |
| 22:43.56 | syrae | Lunessa: thanks. |
| 22:50.04 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19015-ClearerCast.html << tada |
| 22:51.21 | DWSR | Or you could, you know, look for the proc aura? :P |
| 22:52.32 | Lunessa | foxlit: Now do the same for the goddamned fishing bobber. :) |
| 22:52.50 | foxlit | Lunessa: I kinda do |
| 22:54.09 | Warlocomotif | lol |
| 22:54.11 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12226-SilentFish.html is my take on that, but I have not tested it recently, and the timing is a bit fudged. |
| 22:54.34 | Warlocomotif | you should make a "my sounds" addon that does it for all such sounds |
| 22:54.55 | Lunessa | that's an effort doomed to frustration. |
| 22:55.02 | Warlocomotif | hehe |
| 22:55.21 | syrae | Lunessa: which is why you get other people to do it so you don't have to |
| 22:55.21 | Warlocomotif | think of all the glory, the women would lay at your feet! |
| 22:55.31 | Warlocomotif | or well... okay maybe not |
| 22:55.58 | Lunessa | I already get foxlit, tuller, and seerah to write most of the addons I use. nevcairiel does the rest. |
| 22:56.50 | syrae | hrm... I need to go through my directory and pull random defunct stuff out again |
| 22:57.15 | Kraps | i whip my hair back and forth |
| 22:57.30 | syrae | Kraps: your chest hair? |
| 22:57.46 | Nobgul | 0_o clearer cast =X |
| 22:57.47 | Lunessa | .... thank you for that visual syrae. |
| 22:58.00 | syrae | Lunessa: coulda been worse. I compromised. |
| 22:58.08 | Kraps | why yes syrae, how did you know? |
| 22:58.19 | Lunessa | She's watching your cam feed! |
| 22:58.45 | syrae | for better or for worse |
| 22:58.51 | syrae | actually.. for worse |
| 22:59.07 | Warlocomotif | lol |
| 22:59.23 | Thrae | I tried to setup a live camera feed, but some overweight, pimply-faced, white 30-something man kept hacking into it. |
| 22:59.39 | Lunessa | Thrae: That's the mirror! |
| 23:00.25 | Lunessa | g'night all |
| 23:00.56 | Thrae | I replaced all mirrors in this house with pictures of David Hasslehoff, Tom Cruise, and Matthew MacConhey, and Christian Bale. |
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| 23:03.05 | syrae | pfft |
| 23:03.08 | syrae | Nathan Fillion |
| 23:04.18 | Adys | Google has recently demoed an interesting WebGL application called Body Browser, which lets you explore the human body just like you can explore the world in Google Earth. |
| 23:05.23 | Elfbarf | Hi, I was in the #wowtech chat but the only non-afk person couldn't help me so he recommended I come here and ask. I'm looking for a script that can be used to disable the default WoW raid boss health frames since the addons I'm using (MoveAnything and Chinchilla) don't seem to be able to keep it disabled. Most of the time its fine, but recently (since Cataclysm) the frame keeps popping up frequently while running heroics. |
| 23:06.00 | Cide | sounds like it's time to change unit frames |
| 23:06.03 | Elfbarf | Also as of recently I'm having a similar issue but with the Blizzard party frames randomly popping up. |
| 23:06.07 | Elfbarf | I'm just using default :/ |
| 23:06.17 | Elfbarf | I've been waiting until I get a new monitor to redo my UI |
| 23:06.21 | Elfbarf | Aka in ~2 weeks |
| 23:06.32 | Elfbarf | Currently playing at 1600x900, buying a 1920x1200 monitor |
| 23:09.20 | Nobgul | Elfbarf, Next time it "pops" up. Type /fstack |
| 23:09.41 | Nobgul | Hover over the box or frame in question and write the name down. |
| 23:09.58 | Elfbarf | Not in a heroic currently but I'll see what I can do |
| 23:10.10 | Nobgul | If i know the frame names i can write you a script to nuke them. |
| 23:10.36 | syrae | NUKE FROM ORBIT |
| 23:11.39 | Nobgul | calles in the nuke. Oh noes its aimed at syrae! |
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| 23:11.51 | drag0nius | guys |
| 23:11.56 | drag0nius | how to check "is not"? ;d |
| 23:12.03 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 23:12.04 | drag0nius | IsSpellKnown(31252) |
| 23:12.13 | syrae | Nobgul: maybe it'll turn me into a superhero with it's awesome radiation!!! :D |
| 23:12.21 | Cide | drag0nius: by reading that. |
| 23:12.39 | Thrae | drag0nius: What programming experience are you coming from? |
| 23:12.47 | drag0nius | C |
| 23:12.58 | syrae | drag0nius: most WoW API stuff returns 1 for "true" and 'nil' for false |
| 23:13.00 | Cide | I thought C taught you to read documentation |
| 23:13.23 | Nobgul | lol syrae, We can only help |
| 23:13.28 | Thrae | drag0nius: instead of ! it's "not", and instead of "!=" it's "~=" |
| 23:13.29 | Nobgul | hope* |
| 23:13.32 | Cide | Thrae |
| 23:13.32 | Cide | jesus |
| 23:13.35 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 23:13.58 | Shirik | Cide |
| 23:14.02 | Cide | Shirik |
| 23:14.10 | drag0nius | ty |
| 23:14.49 | Shirik | Term 4.000 9.00 9.00 36.00 |
| 23:14.49 | Shirik | Cum 4.000 27.00 30.00 108.00 |
| 23:14.50 | Shirik | I win |
| 23:14.59 | Cide | what is it |
| 23:15.03 | Cide | I'm guessing grades |
| 23:15.21 | syrae | Shirik: excellent work |
| 23:15.26 | Cide | how to interpret? |
| 23:15.29 | Thrae | Cide: Sorry, I don't just leave it at RTFM. I say RTFM and help them understand. |
| 23:15.29 | Shirik | thanks |
| 23:15.47 | Cide | Thrae: no, you just told them how to do it |
| 23:16.01 | Cide | in ten minutes he'll be back asking how to look up a table value by key |
| 23:16.52 | Thrae | No I didn't. Tell them how to do it would be writing the code for them. I just told him how Lua syntax equates to C to help a transition. |
| 23:16.58 | syrae | In my mind, I imagine a little sign on #wowuidev's lawn that says something like, "BEWARE THE CIDE! HE BITES!" |
| 23:17.25 | Shirik | Cide: F = 0, D = 1, C = 2, B = 3, A = 4 |
| 23:17.33 | Thrae | Not everyone instantly understands the PIL, especially if they're *just* starting out with Lua. |
| 23:17.34 | Cide | I'm with you that far |
| 23:17.35 | Shirik | * number of credits |
| 23:17.45 | Shirik | div total credits |
| 23:18.13 | Shirik | GPA, Point credits, Credits, Points |
| 23:18.24 | jscix1 | LUA is terrible :/ |
| 23:18.28 | Dewin | I read it as GPA, Credits Attempted, Credits Earned, Grade Points. But then again, I kow transcripts more than I wish I did. |
| 23:18.28 | Cide | your mom is terrible |
| 23:18.29 | Shirik | wtf is LUA |
| 23:18.50 | jscix1 | wtb javascript or ruby :d |
| 23:18.57 | Shirik | Dewin: The inconsistency between the second and third is that one was a pass/fail course |
| 23:18.59 | Cide | wts intelligenc |
| 23:18.59 | Thrae | jscix1: Lua isn't an acronym. |
| 23:19.00 | Cide | e |
| 23:19.15 | Shirik | SE 696 01DB Grad Intrnshp/Software En 0.00 3.00 P 0.00 IC05/07-08/10 |
| 23:19.46 | Dewin | Shirik: I wrote code that produces transcripts and has to do all of those calculations, including dealing with pass/fail courses and all of that. Like I said, I know more about transcripts than I wish I did. |
| 23:19.54 | Thrae | Comparing Javascript or Ruby to Lua doesn't make any sense, unless you're comparing something like how robust they are for their intended design. In which case, Javascript totally sucks. |
| 23:20.01 | jscix1 | doesn't change that its bad lmfao |
| 23:20.20 | jscix1 | not comparing. it would simply be better |
| 23:20.37 | Cide | so a cumulative gpa of 4.000 means straight A's through your whole education or am I reading it wrong? |
| 23:20.49 | Dewin | straight As or grades that don't influence GPA |
| 23:20.58 | Cide | you are seriously saying that javascript is better than lua? |
| 23:21.04 | Shirik | yes Cide |
| 23:21.06 | Cide | get the fuck out of this channel |
| 23:21.08 | Cide | Shirik: well done |
| 23:21.16 | Shirik | though to be fair this is only my master's transcript |
| 23:21.23 | jscix1 | eh, are you kidding ? |
| 23:21.30 | jscix1 | javascript is the future of all webapps |
| 23:21.34 | jscix1 | somehow I don't imagine, lua is |
| 23:21.36 | Cide | doesn't make it a good language |
| 23:21.40 | jscix1 | ha! |
| 23:21.44 | Cide | only an established language |
| 23:21.45 | jscix1 | are you joking ? |
| 23:21.47 | Cide | like fortran |
| 23:21.50 | Cide | would you call fortran good? |
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| 23:21.55 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:22.06 | Cide | anyway |
| 23:22.09 | Zasurus | lol |
| 23:22.16 | Thrae | Javascript is the future? More like the Netscape Past |
| 23:22.18 | Shirik | That was supposed to say "I don't know why you're here anyway" |
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| 23:22.24 | Cide | I'm also at 4.000 so far but 3 years to go so that may change |
| 23:22.25 | jscix1 | super mature. |
| 23:22.41 | jscix1 | can't discuss a topic so you opt to kick people |
| 23:22.43 | jscix1 | clap |
| 23:22.49 | Shirik | You aren't discussing shit |
| 23:23.03 | Cide | replying "are you joking?" to every argument isn't really arguing :/ (I'm aware he left) |
| 23:23.11 | Thrae | Trying to get the last word in. Real mature. |
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| 23:23.23 | Zasurus | :) |
| 23:23.40 | Zasurus | Who needs TV when I have #wowuidev! ;) |
| 23:24.14 | Thrae | This makes for good TV if you like watching really stupid shows. Like Mind of Mencia. |
| 23:24.46 | Cide | I should apply for Big Brother Online |
| 23:25.01 | Dagmar | How does that work? |
| 23:25.07 | Cide | I don't know yet |
| 23:25.10 | Cide | I just made it up |
| 23:25.23 | Dagmar | I think Jennicam already beat you to that one, man |
| 23:25.37 | Cide | I don't know what that is |
| 23:25.54 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 23:26.06 | *** part/#wowuidev drag0nius (~drag0nius@qr222.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:26.13 | Dagmar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Ringley |
| 23:26.32 | Dagmar | Proof positive that even homely chicks can be lusted after if they're easily stalked by teenage boys |
| 23:26.37 | Zasurus | OK this is driving me mad... how do I split an array up for example test[1] = "Test1"; Test[2] = "Test2"; test1, test2 = select(test); <-- I know that isn't correct but I am sure it's something like that! :| |
| 23:27.05 | wereHamster | unpack? |
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| 23:27.15 | Zasurus | Yer I guess |
| 23:27.39 | Dagmar | Cide: You seriously never heard of Jennicam? |
| 23:27.52 | Cide | no |
| 23:28.02 | Cide | I'm also not american |
| 23:28.07 | Dagmar | Musta been before your time then |
| 23:28.20 | Zasurus | wereHamster: Oh lol unpack is the function! :| Thanks! :D |
| 23:28.40 | Dewin | To be fair, I only know of it because I saw a timeline of internet memes |
| 23:28.45 | Zasurus | Maybe last time I did it I cam across it |
| 23:28.51 | Cide | yeah, I've only been online for 7 years |
| 23:31.00 | Arrowmaster | 7 years? |
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| 23:31.04 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 23:31.08 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5713670/the-glory-the-horror-of-the-monster-pc |
| 23:32.08 | Cide | I was being sarcastic |
| 23:32.35 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 23:34.22 | Kraps | "She did not wish to filter the events that were shown on her camera, so sometimes she was shown nude or engaging in sexual behavior, including sexual intercourse and masturbation. This was a new use of Internet technology in 1996 and viewers were stimulated both for its sociological implications and for sexual arousal." |
| 23:34.36 | Kraps | nonsense |
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| 23:34.57 | Kraps | its for science |
| 23:35.02 | Dagmar | Well, it was new for random strangers to be watching |
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| 23:36.14 | Dagmar | ...although it may be the origin of "When you fap into the internet, the internet faps back at you." |
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| 23:49.38 | sylvanaar | is a wowi site admin around? |
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| 23:51.55 | Kraps | is Ender's Game a good series? |
| 23:52.02 | Jamash | that's an interesting question |
| 23:52.18 | Jamash | Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead are two of my favorite science fiction novels |
| 23:52.28 | Jamash | the rest of the series is "meh" |
| 23:53.27 | Warlocomotif | ive not read a lot, but I very much enjoyed the Dune series |
| 23:53.44 | Zasurus | I love Dune aswell |
| 23:53.57 | Zasurus | All of them. The books, Games and films |
| 23:54.01 | Kraps | Ender's Game is not becoming a game |
| 23:54.09 | Jamash | I read one of the dune prequels they wrote after herbert died |
| 23:54.11 | Jamash | it was terrible |
| 23:54.32 | Warlocomotif | wasnt it edited by Frank Herberts son? |
| 23:54.33 | Zasurus | :( |
| 23:54.50 | Kraps | Children of Dune is the first book? |
| 23:55.07 | Warlocomotif | thats the second I think |
| 23:55.09 | Jamash | "Dune" is the first dune book |
| 23:55.11 | Jamash | oddly enough |
| 23:55.12 | Warlocomotif | yeah |
| 23:55.25 | Warlocomotif | actually children of dune ios the 3rd |
| 23:56.19 | Warlocomotif | Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, God Emperor of Dune, Heretics of Dune, Chapterhouse of Dune |
| 23:56.45 | Kraps | http://www.booksfree.com/cgi-bin/search_details.cgi?isbn=9780441172719 ? |
| 23:57.04 | Warlocomotif | so far i've read the first 4, which are alledgedly the best. the 5th and 6th are still good apparantly, but the stuff that came after Frank Herbert died is not very well received |
| 23:57.20 | Warlocomotif | yeah that one Kraps |
| 23:59.34 | Warlocomotif | if you like science fiction and have a decent ability of grasping relatively complex concepts- you'll like it |
