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| 00:18.06 | Thrae | Hmm, no Nvidia Tweak guides for the new DX11 engine. The engine's out now, right? |
| 00:18.46 | Nobgul | Dunno |
| 00:19.01 | Nobgul | cbreak, lol , were maxed on ilevel |
| 00:19.10 | Nobgul | cant get anything else from heroics |
| 00:20.12 | Thrae | Nobgul: Maxxed as in you have the best stuff, or there's some sort of cap? |
| 00:25.54 | Primer | WTF, I can barely get passed the first boss in a heroic |
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| 00:26.18 | Primer | but then I just turned 85 yesterday |
| 00:26.33 | Nobgul | Thrae, 339 in each slot |
| 00:26.42 | Nobgul | fully chanted etc |
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| 00:27.19 | Thrae | Nobgul: That doesn't answer my question...are you saying there's a cap right now, or do you just literally have the best stuff / highest ilevels from from heroics? |
| 00:27.42 | foxlit | [heroic loot is 246] |
| 00:27.46 | foxlit | s/2/3/ |
| 00:27.52 | foxlit | Bound to happen when correcting someone. |
| 00:30.21 | Thrae | Hmm so far either my FPS rocks, or the D3D11 mode isn't killing it. |
| 00:30.21 | Nobgul | Thrae, Literally have all we can get from heroics. |
| 00:30.39 | Nobgul | rthe only cap is to get into the heroics |
| 00:31.04 | Thrae | Is all the T11 stuff available to purchase yet? |
| 00:31.40 | Nobgul | Yea |
| 00:31.42 | Nobgul | it is |
| 00:32.01 | foxlit | " Literally have all we can get from heroics." :/ |
| 00:32.12 | foxlit | What have you been doing, running heroics non-stop for the last five days? |
| 00:32.26 | Nobgul | Not at all |
| 00:32.36 | Nobgul | the badge vendors have gear |
| 00:32.48 | Nobgul | then also boe's the guild has picked up |
| 00:33.00 | Thrae | Well if you like PvP there's that to grab too |
| 00:33.09 | foxlit | There are no heroic-level BoEs, iirc? |
| 00:33.35 | Nobgul | ilevel 339 |
| 00:33.42 | Nobgul | then there are the 359 world drop epics |
| 00:34.15 | Napoleone | wow who was the idiot that programmed tidyplates |
| 00:34.21 | foxlit | Ah, you mean craftables |
| 00:34.40 | foxlit | But then again you don't |
| 00:34.51 | foxlit | Because that's just resilience gear. |
| 00:34.56 | Thrae | Napoleone: What's wrong with 'em? 4.x problem? |
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| 00:36.14 | Napoleone | if a target is selected and then rightclicking on it.. it selects a new random target |
| 00:36.22 | Napoleone | no wonder i suck at targeting |
| 00:37.02 | foxlit | Nobgul: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=minle=339;maxle=339 |
| 00:37.11 | Napoleone | rightclicking should only be interact, or attack, not random new target |
| 00:38.23 | Nobgul | yes Fisker? |
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| 00:40.08 | Thrae | Hmmmm, now how am I going to tell WoW *is* actually using D3D11...wait for it to crash? |
| 00:40.33 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.43 | Nobgul | isnt there a gfx report |
| 00:40.51 | Nobgul | in the report folder? |
| 00:40.52 | Nobgul | err log |
| 00:41.12 | Thrae | Ah I'll check that, thanks. I was going to set it to "d3d9" and see if my options change. |
| 00:42.00 | Thrae | Heh forgot to disable "QuestHelper" |
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| 00:42.56 | Nobgul | Napoleone, You could make a feature and or bug request in the tidyplate page. |
| 00:43.39 | foxlit | Though, honestly, I'd leave the "idiot" part out of it. |
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| 01:16.35 | Gnarfoz | I doubt very much TidyPlates handles what happens when you click nameplates |
| 01:16.57 | Napoleone | so it doesnt control its own actions? |
| 01:17.19 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 01:17.32 | Napoleone | so youre saying that standard now if you right click on a target thats already selected with blizzard standard plates that it selects something else? |
| 01:17.46 | Gnarfoz | either that, or something else is influencing that behaviour. |
| 01:18.29 | Gnarfoz | nameplate modifying addons are very complicated in nature since they're basically doing something at the very rim of what's intended to be doable with addons |
| 01:21.11 | mascondante | hey guys I found a neat gaming vest thing that's compatible with WoW (http://bit.ly/TNGamesVest). Have any of you guys tried it? I'm thinking about buying one. |
| 01:21.37 | Gnarfoz | anyone have an idea what could produce this FrameXML error? the addon gets loaded and works just fine, the error seems pretty obscure... http://pastebin.com/5eE7wzEE |
| 01:27.54 | ckknight | mascondante: sounds cool, especially as a tank |
| 01:28.52 | mascondante | hehe yeah that's what I'm thinkin |
| 01:29.23 | Napoleone | dwsorry to ask |
| 01:29.27 | Napoleone | wtf is bit.ly? |
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| 01:32.49 | mascondante | bit.ly is a url shortener. Makes easy to remember sites out of annoying long ones ;-) |
| 01:33.00 | Industrial | LOOK WHAT I FOUND http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1b4dde2584bdeeb82ceb1b3dc30ea244.jpg |
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| 01:44.19 | Nobgul | Fisker, I was gonna say something about the idot part but it wasnt very nice so i just let it be. But atleast you did |
| 01:46.27 | foxlit | Nobgul: keep calling me Fisker and I'll have to resort to whale violence. |
| 01:46.33 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 01:46.36 | Nobgul | oh shit |
| 01:46.42 | Nobgul | hides |
| 01:46.44 | Nobgul | sorry foxlit |
| 01:46.51 | Nobgul | i fail at tab |
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| 01:49.02 | Thrae | Hmm, I didn't know Shadowed used Wowace. |
| 01:54.12 | Gnarfoz | he doesn't, since he doesn't do addons anymore. |
| 01:54.25 | Gnarfoz | (but before, he certainly did, what's suprising about that, really?^^) |
| 02:10.06 | Thrae | Always fun to follow tekkub's git hub. |
| 02:12.19 | Adys | My 3 first chrome tabs, out of ~30: |
| 02:12.25 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/12/08/ew.jpg |
| 02:12.26 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/11/19/l4d.png |
| 02:12.29 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Krav_Maga_techniques |
| 02:12.34 | Adys | Disturbing? Maybe. |
| 02:12.59 | Adys | Shirik: do I disturb you? :( |
| 02:13.06 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:13.20 | Thrae | Heh. I went from FF to Chrome after having so many damn problems with 4.0. |
| 02:13.31 | Thrae | Right now I'm using Chrome Canary in Sandboxie. |
| 02:13.35 | Adys | you mean 4.x is /worse/ ? |
| 02:14.54 | Thrae | I think so. |
| 02:15.01 | clever | if i create a frame and insert it inside another, how would i properly delete it? |
| 02:15.13 | Adys | clever: you don't delete frames |
| 02:15.40 | clever | Adys: how would i cleanup when i no longer need it? |
| 02:15.49 | Adys | you wouldn't |
| 02:16.06 | Adys | don't create too many frames, reuse them |
| 02:20.12 | Gnarfoz | apropos tekkub... ping! |
| 02:20.50 | Thrae | Actually wait...why do I have RankWatch installed in Cata at all? |
| 02:21.01 | Thrae | deletes. |
| 02:21.14 | Gnarfoz | boggles |
| 02:21.31 | Thrae | It was useful pre-Cata :D |
| 02:21.49 | Adys | http://kotaku.com/5710758/portal-gets-broken-in-the-worlds-fastest-speed-run |
| 02:21.51 | Gnarfoz | of course it was |
| 02:21.51 | Adys | Well this is fun. |
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| 02:30.42 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1U5RUVENNE#t=8m53s |
| 02:30.57 | Adys | Giving a new meaning to the words "Mind blowing" |
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| 02:37.20 | clever | Adys: can i create multiple textures and place them on different areas of a frame? |
| 02:37.28 | Adys | Yes |
| 02:37.39 | clever | just use setpoint to position them? |
| 02:37.59 | Adys | dont ask me :P |
| 02:38.05 | Gnarfoz | Adys: that guy is just crazy |
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| 02:55.47 | Hjalte | Adys: He sings in the end :( |
| 02:55.54 | Adys | Yeah. ouch |
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| 02:56.44 | Napoleone | and its sooo offkey its horrible |
| 02:56.47 | Napoleone | anyway night |
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| 03:15.53 | clever | http://privatepaste.com/2c2b381929 why am i not seeing any effect here? |
| 03:16.03 | clever | can i use textures like that to draw a solid color? |
| 03:16.38 | foxlit | Use SetTexture instead of SetVertexColor |
| 03:17.09 | clever | ah |
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| 03:21.22 | clever | foxlit: yep works |
| 03:21.32 | clever | now i need to figure out how best to display the info |
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| 03:34.25 | sage | so |
| 03:34.33 | sage | I made a undead mage |
| 03:34.39 | sage | named markmadoff |
| 03:34.53 | sage | http://www.latimes.com/la-fi-mark-madoff-20101213,0,4868822.story |
| 03:35.06 | sage | epic win |
| 03:39.25 | clever | foxlit: when i'm done with a texture, how do i delete it? |
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| 03:58.00 | Yssaril|2 | clever: you can't delete any UI widgets/elements |
| 04:01.20 | clever | Yssaril: so once its made, it must stay in ram until /reload or shutdown? |
| 04:01.28 | Yssaril | yup |
| 04:01.33 | clever | ugly:( |
| 04:01.56 | clever | i'll have to keep them in an array and reuse them |
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| 04:02.39 | Yssaril | textures are tied to their frames fyi so once on a frame you can not put it on another |
| 04:03.19 | clever | yeah |
| 04:03.27 | clever | they will only ever render on the main frame |
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| 04:14.02 | clever | 'This project has no files!', but i have 3 files uploaded |
| 04:14.03 | clever | what could i have done wrong? |
| 04:14.21 | Arrowmaster | they have to be approved |
| 04:16.20 | clever | Arrowmaster: the status reads as normal on all 3 files |
| 04:16.47 | clever | dont see any mention of them waiting for approval |
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| 04:25.24 | Gnarfoz | is anyone aware of a modern (preferably even more-lightweight) re-implementation of "Links" (an addon to allow an arbitrary number of item/spell/achievement/whatever tooltips to be displayed at the same time)? |
| 04:26.47 | ckknight | Anyone else feel like they'd support the Vigilante Registration Act? (DC Universe) |
| 04:27.31 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Not exactly, but Tekkub seems to have a pretty lightweight implementation called "HoverTips.lua" he uses in his own addons. |
| 04:27.46 | Thrae | Gnarfoz: Might want to check out tekKompare. |
| 04:27.52 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 04:28.04 | Gnarfoz | you seem to have misunderstood what Links does |
| 04:28.40 | Gnarfoz | it's not for comparison, it's just to go around the limitation of only being able to show one tooltip at a time |
| 04:28.51 | Thrae | No, I'm saying you might be able to code one yourself without too much effort if the API is solid. |
| 04:29.09 | Gnarfoz | oh, heh, yeah |
| 04:29.27 | Gnarfoz | I'm trying to debug Links, but Jerry's coding style is apparently beyond my skill level |
| 04:29.50 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/gayball4.jpg |
| 04:29.57 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/gayball3.jpg |
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| 04:36.12 | A-KO | http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/electric-eel-vs-alligator/ < damn |
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| 04:45.09 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: I chose the lesser amount of work solution: http://www.wowace.com/addons/links/tickets/5-incompatibility-with-auctioneers-lib-extra-tip/ ;) |
| 04:46.49 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/demotivational-posters-time.jpg |
| 04:47.09 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm afraid tekkub's hovertips does indeed not do at all what Links does, it just shows tooltips when hovering over hyperlinks, instead of having to click them |
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| 04:52.24 | Adys | Iriel: what's the difference between HideUIPanel(GameTooltip) and GameTooltip:Hide() ? |
| 04:53.15 | Iriel | HideUIPanel in theory is integrated with the panel management code |
| 04:53.23 | Iriel | Whereas :Hide() just makes it now visible |
| 04:53.44 | Adys | mmk, so it's generally better to use hide() |
| 04:55.14 | Iriel | If you're interacting with the blizzard panels, you should use HideUIPanel |
| 04:55.20 | Adys | Thrae: btw, https://github.com/Adys/linkhover/ |
| 04:55.28 | Adys | er |
| 04:55.30 | Adys | Gnarfoz |
| 04:55.45 | Gnarfoz | uhm Adys |
| 04:55.49 | Adys | Yeah nevermind |
| 04:55.52 | Adys | i fail at readin |
| 04:55.53 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 04:56.24 | Adys | Gnarfoz: I have a multi-tooltip addon somewhere but it's very ugly |
| 04:56.36 | Adys | ive been dying to get someone to clean it up for me because im just way to lazy to =( |
| 04:56.57 | Gnarfoz | I can't figure out why Links is making stuff break either, so... ugliness is relative |
| 04:57.26 | Adys | yeah well |
| 04:57.30 | Adys | mine prolly makes stuff break too |
| 04:57.37 | Adys | and was leaking frames like crazy last i remember |
| 04:57.59 | Gnarfoz | if hooking stuff globally wasn't prone to fuckups, I'd try making one from scratch ;p |
| 04:58.21 | Adys | i was replacing SetItemRef |
| 04:59.19 | Gnarfoz | taint! :F |
| 05:04.12 | clever | Adys: ive also seen some minor problems in tooltips i use a bit |
| 05:04.40 | clever | altoholic's tooltip doesnt update if the number of items changes while the tip is open |
| 05:05.00 | clever | but its clearly posible to fix, because the auctioneer tooltip is showing the change in value as the stack grows |
| 05:09.21 | Gnarfoz | prepare to enter the world of OnUpdates |
| 05:09.42 | Gnarfoz | or listening to way more events |
| 05:10.04 | clever | i'm unhooking my own OnUpdates handler whenever its not needed, just to be sure i dont impact fps |
| 05:10.19 | Arrowmaster | i thought there was just a flag you set and tooltips kept updating on every frame |
| 05:12.55 | Gnarfoz | (which sounds painful oO) |
| 05:13.21 | Thrae | Bleh MiniMount and MassMailer share the same short slash |
| 05:14.02 | Gnarfoz | neither of those sound like they should need one in the first place :D |
| 05:14.21 | clever | aslong as they also have a longslash, you can work around things |
| 05:14.26 | Thrae | MiniMount is used in macros, so they use short slashes to save space. |
| 05:14.35 | clever | ahhh |
| 05:14.38 | Thrae | clever: Yeah except MiniMount re-makes the macro on use. |
| 05:14.54 | clever | in that case, you cant just use the longer one |
| 05:14.58 | Thrae | Arguably I don't need MassMailer very often at all |
| 05:15.03 | Seerah | you can open up one of them, find "/mm" (assuming that's the slash) and change it |
| 05:15.47 | clever | Seerah: but if its too long for the full name, that wont work |
| 05:15.57 | Seerah | ? |
| 05:16.28 | clever | if the macro is too long |
| 05:16.44 | Seerah | not if you change it to something short :p |
| 05:17.10 | clever | you would have to edit the lua to fix that problem |
| 05:17.13 | Seerah | anyway, if minimount changes the macro, not sure if it would look for /mm, so I'd change massmailer |
| 05:17.20 | clever | not something that can be done via macro editing |
| 05:17.23 | Seerah | that's what I meant |
| 05:17.29 | clever | if the longslash doesnt fit in the macro |
| 05:17.31 | Seerah | "open up one of them" :) |
| 05:17.47 | clever | edit massmailer to make it optional:P |
| 05:18.25 | Seerah | didn't I just say to change massmailer? :p |
| 05:18.37 | clever | yeah |
| 05:20.31 | Thrae | Bleh, could have sworn I had Heirloom gear |
| 05:22.22 | Thrae | I hope they're in my bank... |
| 05:28.10 | Thrae | Bleh I think they're gone =/ |
| 05:34.58 | mikma | does wow provide the info of direction where my target is facing? |
| 05:36.00 | Blu|Hungry | good question |
| 05:36.04 | Blu|Hungry | i dont think it does |
| 05:36.51 | mikma | have you ever tried doing dps with rogue in big packs? |
| 05:37.01 | Blu|Hungry | not yet |
| 05:37.05 | mikma | i dare you to find the back of mob to stab |
| 05:37.08 | Blu|Hungry | my rouge is only level 7 |
| 05:37.31 | mikma | mine is 85, ding! (yesterday) |
| 05:37.46 | Primer | When I go on my feral druid I insist the tank is marked |
| 05:37.55 | Primer | to help find the back of mobs |
| 05:38.10 | mikma | heh |
| 05:38.21 | mikma | wow needs personal marks |
| 05:38.30 | Blu|Hungry | yeah but you have feral charge kitty |
| 05:38.42 | Blu|Hungry | which automatically places you behind the mob |
| 05:39.08 | mikma | iriel: didn't you have some sort of "personal marks" back in the days? |
| 05:39.26 | Iriel | What do you mean? |
| 05:39.39 | mikma | blu|hungry: subtletty rogue, but shadowstep has quite a long cooldown |
| 05:40.00 | Blu|Hungry | not sure what type of rogue i wanna be yet |
| 05:40.02 | Blu|Hungry | worgen rogue |
| 05:40.14 | mikma | iriel: you had some sort of addon that was able to add marks on overhead statusbars or something |
| 05:40.37 | Iriel | Hm, I had one for putting a little icon over the cursor when you moused over people in certain guilds |
| 05:40.58 | mikma | oh :P |
| 05:40.59 | Iriel | ArcadiaLogos I think |
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| 05:41.13 | Iriel | I haven't maintained it in ages |
| 05:41.27 | mikma | !api facing |
| 05:41.27 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'facing': GetPlayerFacing, Model:SetFacing, Model:GetFacing |
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| 05:49.51 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/N7LwE50KGBg/double-rainbows-annoying-oranges-and.html |
| 06:06.35 | Primer | arghy |
| 06:06.53 | Primer | Mounted wants to mount a ground mount while swimming |
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| 06:10.23 | mikma | its possible =) |
| 06:10.48 | mikma | i usually summon my celestial steed cause when you jump you can fly |
| 06:11.06 | mikma | it turns from groundmount into flying mount when feets leave the water |
| 06:13.31 | Jerub | i love how blizzard reports when achievements are going to occur: |
| 06:13.33 | Jerub | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/guild/dathremar/cruor%20sacramentum/ |
| 06:13.46 | Jerub | in 6 hours hakon will earn professional illutrious grand master. |
| 06:17.06 | Jerub | Primer: if you're on the sea floor, you can't mount a sea mount |
| 06:17.10 | Jerub | it's a little annoying :/ |
| 06:18.37 | smcn | for the record i reported that in beta |
| 06:18.39 | smcn | :P |
| 06:21.55 | Gnarfoz | it's not like they fixed bugs |
| 06:21.56 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 06:22.29 | Gnarfoz | I still boggle at their post saying "thanks for reporting 700 unique bugs" - lolwut |
| 06:22.49 | Gnarfoz | and then seeing shit that's been broken on beta for several months being hotfixed 1 or 2 days after release... |
| 06:23.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf i just about fall out of my chair laughing and kd3 isnt even here for me to tell him how good the latest Ore No Imouto is |
| 06:23.50 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: What is this? |
| 06:23.58 | Arrowmaster | hilarious anime |
| 06:24.33 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ore_no_Im%C5%8Dto_ga_Konna_ni_Kawaii_Wake_ga_Nai ? |
| 06:24.49 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:25.48 | haste | Shirik: you know... I haven't started to watch that one yet |
| 06:26.08 | haste | I postponed it due to the title initially, but apparantly I'm missing out |
| 06:26.21 | Arrowmaster | you are |
| 06:26.41 | Arrowmaster | people are sleeping in this house in im almost falling out of my chair laughing |
| 06:26.55 | haste | I've been told! |
| 06:27.16 | haste | I have ten series on my watching list atm tho' |
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| 06:27.58 | Arrowmaster | fucking watch it |
| 06:28.12 | haste | I will! |
| 06:28.23 | haste | just need to wait for one serie to bump of my list :P |
| 06:28.41 | haste | using a script to randomly play an episode from my watch pool |
| 06:29.01 | haste | which means I now have four series that have 1-3 episodes left |
| 06:33.05 | mikma | lul |
| 06:33.20 | mikma | i have shitloads of series in my buffer |
| 06:33.30 | mikma | wow's been taking all my time |
| 06:33.37 | mikma | and baby! <3 |
| 06:33.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont play wow, i watch stuff as its released |
| 06:34.15 | Arrowmaster | although i think i might be 2 weeks behind on bleach but fuck bleach |
| 06:34.30 | haste | WoW has only been taking time the last week |
| 06:35.06 | haste | watched five episodes the last two weeks |
| 06:35.17 | haste | six if we count the last three :P |
| 06:35.52 | Arrowmaster | i think ive watched over 50 episodes the past 3 weeks |
| 06:36.19 | haste | I used to do that before |
| 06:36.57 | Arrowmaster | rewatched Planetes and got most the way through another series that ive had but never watched |
| 06:37.58 | haste | planetes? |
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| 06:38.28 | haste | oh wait |
| 06:38.41 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes |
| 06:39.04 | haste | already looked it up on anidb |
| 06:39.08 | haste | just typo'd the first time :P |
| 06:39.19 | Arrowmaster | youve seen it before right? |
| 06:39.49 | haste | nope |
| 06:40.35 | Arrowmaster | then add it to your list! |
| 06:40.55 | haste | glares at this plan to watch list. |
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| 06:42.57 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: that's more or less the only anime series i didn't despise. |
| 06:43.28 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: and even then it made me hate myself a little with it's fuck-my-friends-i'm-going-to-space end. |
| 06:43.45 | haste | hates Jerub. |
| 06:44.42 | Jerub | i'm a little bitter because the next series i was told to watch was FMA, which still makes me shudder. |
| 06:44.54 | Arrowmaster | FMA or FMA:B? |
| 06:45.10 | Jerub | um, full metal alchemist the series. |
| 06:45.15 | haste | there's two of them |
| 06:45.17 | Jerub | 2 seasons, fucked up human sacrifice one. |
| 06:45.40 | Jerub | with a side helping of 'oh look i killed my daughter' and 'lets commit genocide!' |
| 06:45.40 | haste | http://anidb.net/a979 |
| 06:45.41 | Arrowmaster | yes the first one that part way through they caught up to the manga then just started making shit up and it when all to hell |
| 06:45.52 | haste | http://anidb.net/a6107 |
| 06:45.56 | Arrowmaster | and the second one where it went exactly to the manga |
| 06:46.27 | Jerub | whatever. i'd rather /wrists |
| 06:46.59 | Arrowmaster | first one sucked |
| 06:47.12 | Arrowmaster | and the movie to go with it sucked even more |
| 06:47.18 | haste | I've seen worse :( |
| 06:47.30 | Jerub | hence my distaste for the genre. |
| 06:47.53 | haste | needs more mushishi |
| 06:48.22 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ahEygBSd4 >:3 |
| 06:48.27 | Arrowmaster | well i saw the first one and i thought it was alright, movie was kinda confusing, then i started reading the manga and realized how horrible the first anime was |
| 06:49.15 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: oh, so the manga doesn't deal with human sacrifice? |
| 06:49.30 | Arrowmaster | oh it does |
| 06:49.42 | Jerub | oh, so nothing you're saying has any relevence. |
| 06:49.43 | Jerub | sigh. |
| 06:50.41 | Arrowmaster | seriously theres a certain point in the first series that it just starts going directly into shit they made up because they passed the point in the story the manga was at |
| 06:50.51 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: bye |
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| 06:50.55 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:52.20 | haste | I should rewatch mushishi |
| 06:52.37 | haste | but the damn DVDs are interlaced |
| 06:52.44 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
| 06:54.38 | Kraps | haha read the completion text |
| 06:54.40 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=25577 |
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| 07:10.21 | clever | Kraps: lol! |
| 07:10.59 | Fisker | how are you Kraps ? |
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| 07:16.14 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:21.42 | Fisker | so you are a jerk Kraps |
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| 07:40.15 | Thrae | So many database mods are hanging the game. Heh. |
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| 07:45.48 | Elkano | yeah :( |
| 07:46.09 | Elkano | problem is that Blizzard changed GetItemInfo from being cache-only to server-query :/ |
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| 08:17.05 | Primer | I thought macros were atomic, meaning, you can chain shit and your "state" is the same, even if the previous statement changes it |
| 08:17.26 | Primer | like, /cast [stance:1] some other stance, /stopmacro [stance:1] |
| 08:17.33 | Primer | the stopmacro doesn't work any more |
| 08:17.37 | Primer | it just keeps on going |
| 08:18.00 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.15 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:18.19 | Primer | the second line is never true |
| 08:22.47 | Gnarfoz | maybe stance numbers changed? |
| 08:22.56 | Gnarfoz | you lost one |
| 08:22.59 | Gnarfoz | (tree) |
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| 08:26.04 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that's even how it works since apparently, forms are spec-dependant |
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| 08:27.42 | mikma | primer: what are you trying to do? |
| 08:28.42 | Gnarfoz | un-flight-form and stop the macro after that |
| 08:29.04 | Gnarfoz | probably because after that comes /cast Swift Flight Form ;-) |
| 08:30.00 | Gnarfoz | (or is that spell actually a toggle already? then I'm not sure, something other that he doesn't want to cast in flight follows, in any case) |
| 08:30.12 | Primer | trying to create an all-in-one druid mount macro |
| 08:30.30 | Gnarfoz | oh, ground mount then, wouldn't want to try casting that in mid-air :D |
| 08:32.03 | Primer | the macro has 6 lines so far |
| 08:32.19 | Primer | to handle various scenarios |
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| 08:34.35 | Primer | I'm pretty sure this used to work before |
| 08:35.31 | mikma | why dont you just bind a button for flightform... |
| 08:35.43 | mikma | nice little toggle on/off |
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| 08:55.40 | a-stray-cat | twi |
| 08:55.49 | a-stray-cat | i want to hear your beautiul voice |
| 08:55.53 | a-stray-cat | ful |
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| 08:58.54 | Primer | Any opinions on the easiest heroic? |
| 08:59.05 | Primer | I simply can't get in a group that can kill ANY boss |
| 09:06.08 | Gnarfoz | guild group, kill all of them |
| 09:06.09 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 09:06.25 | Gnarfoz | tol'vir isn't too bad |
| 09:06.39 | Gnarfoz | also, vortex pinnacle |
| 09:06.55 | Primer | in VP now, getting pwned |
| 09:07.48 | Primer | argh, boss to 1%... |
| 09:12.34 | a-stray-cat | dont'e lose at 00$ |
| 09:12.44 | a-stray-cat | that'as where my guild loses |
| 09:12.48 | a-stray-cat | and that's baaaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 09:13.10 | Primer | WOW |
| 09:13.15 | Primer | killed the boss...no one can use the loot |
| 09:13.34 | greppy | don't have an enchanter either? |
| 09:14.01 | Primer | nope |
| 09:15.52 | Primer | resto druid has become very challenging |
| 09:17.25 | Pertheria | well thats just poor planning |
| 09:17.30 | Pertheria | not bringing someone along who can use loot |
| 09:18.11 | Primer | such is the nature of randoms |
| 09:18.41 | Pertheria | i thought you said sucks is the nature haha.. was ognna be like yep.. both the loot drops, and the people in the pug |
| 09:19.12 | Pertheria | <dk in blood talents> I'm a dps! |
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| 09:20.07 | Primer | I've never used healing touch so much |
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| 09:20.43 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you don't know what you're doing |
| 09:21.11 | Pertheria | and as far as not getting a random that can kill bosses.. the expansions only been out for a week, gonna take time for the pug noobs to learn the heroics and realize their gear isnt the best |
| 09:21.39 | Gnarfoz | you mean "their gear is not good enough to counteract their serious lack of skill"? |
| 09:21.51 | Pertheria | pretty much |
| 09:22.01 | Pertheria | wait for the warriors to realize int gear really isnt the best for them |
| 09:22.06 | Primer | using innervate on trash... |
| 09:22.14 | Pertheria | and the mages realize they dont need to stack stamina.. |
| 09:22.48 | Pertheria | i figure it'll be at least another week before mages remember they have polymorph and how it works |
| 09:22.55 | Xyphoid | i used bind elemental! |
| 09:23.08 | Pertheria | on boars... huh Xyphoid |
| 09:23.10 | Xyphoid | had to explain to people that yes, shamans have CC |
| 09:24.50 | Pertheria | i always get the mage that ( amazingly enough ) knows how to polymorph.. but the dps who doesnt understand not to shoot the sheep |
| 09:24.53 | Kalroth | yeah, its called bloodlust and BURNINATE |
| 09:25.22 | Gnarfoz | all buttons are burninate |
| 09:25.33 | Pertheria | i pali tank using my forehead |
| 09:25.38 | Pertheria | -mashmashmashmashmash- |
| 09:25.58 | Pertheria | and amazingly enough, it perfectly mimic's dk tanking |
| 09:26.55 | Kalroth | I had a DK yell at me (on my hunter) because I didn't use frost trap - while I was using frost trap to the best of my abilities, he on the other hand: 1) used every single AoE he could 2) death grabbed the one I had trapped multiple times 3) pulled before my trap landed |
| 09:27.17 | Kalroth | dum dk maeks huntr sad |
| 09:27.30 | Pertheria | hey, all through bc, thats a valid tanking method |
| 09:28.12 | Kalroth | I love it though, I love having to CC shit and give pulls a second thought |
| 09:28.14 | Pertheria | when cataclysm came out, there should have been a 'limit break' quest at 80.. that made you go into a special dungeon that taught you how to cc, and how not to die |
| 09:28.39 | Pertheria | and until you beat it, you were out of phase with the rest of the world |
| 09:28.47 | Xyphoid | isn't that called LFD |
| 09:28.50 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:29.09 | Pertheria | no no... this is before lfd |
| 09:29.23 | Pertheria | to make sure you high enough i(q)lvl to join dungeons |
| 09:29.46 | Pertheria | insert 'have a ' in there somewhere, because obviously i dont |
| 09:30.19 | Kalroth | "to have a make sure you high enough" still doesn't make sense! |
| 09:30.36 | Pertheria | see, right off the bat, 2 people that would have failed :P |
| 09:30.46 | Pertheria | emails the suggestion to blizzard for the next expansion |
| 09:31.09 | Pertheria | but your a huntard, so your exempt |
| 09:31.17 | Pertheria | everyone expects them to fuckup lfd's |
| 09:31.28 | Xyphoid | look people can't do the quest where you have to read the book saying FIRE EARTH AIR WATER and click on fire earth air water |
| 09:31.32 | Pertheria | 'let me jump off this cliff with my pet out and see what happens' |
| 09:32.09 | bleeter | slaps the login servers |
| 09:32.10 | Pertheria | ok... i have an admission to make... |
| 09:32.13 | Pertheria | i'm not even 80 yet haha |
| 09:32.24 | Pertheria | so I am just playing along :) |
| 09:33.11 | Pertheria | hmm.. would you consider george carlin, on hbo, a movie, or a tv show? |
| 09:33.20 | Dewin | I hear you bleeter. |
| 09:33.57 | Dewin | I was trying to change characters, got stuck at a blue bar, I apparently logged in and back out according to my wife, so I restarted WoW and... byebye servers |
| 09:33.58 | bleeter | Dewin: a blue posted ~5-10mins ago 'is only a minor hiccup and is fixed now' lol |
| 09:34.12 | bleeter | haha sucks to be you :P |
| 09:34.14 | Dewin | ... where's the 5000 replies saying "No it's not!" |
| 09:34.19 | bleeter | sucks to be me, too |
| 09:34.29 | bleeter | Dewin: they're the other threads ;) |
| 09:34.58 | Dewin | Oh, THERE's the known issues thread. I was looking for that earlier. |
| 09:35.18 | Wobin | stupid login server |
| 09:35.40 | Dewin | but my druid issue is not there (flight form not scaling with mount up) |
| 09:35.47 | Wobin | It clearly takes time for the 'fix' to make it's way to Australia |
| 09:35.58 | bleeter | fixes Wobin |
| 09:37.00 | Xinhuan | zzzzz |
| 09:37.05 | Wobin | imo, the launcher should have a ping check on the login server |
| 09:37.07 | Xinhuan | i got killed in deepholme |
| 09:37.18 | Xinhuan | then when i flew back to my corpse |
| 09:37.23 | Xinhuan | the Accept Rez button doesn't pop up |
| 09:37.32 | Xinhuan | Return to Graveyard button works though |
| 09:37.55 | Xinhuan | so i logged out to char screen and back in.... stuck on loading bar forever. |
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| 09:38.04 | Xinhuan | closed wow, now login server is busy. |
| 09:38.17 | Xinhuan | gonna have to requeue 4 hours to login again fuck this |
| 09:38.28 | Dewin | Wobin: That blue post was posted 11/29/2010 |
| 09:38.29 | Pertheria | heh |
| 09:38.30 | Dewin | someone necro'd it |
| 09:38.51 | Dewin | s/Wobin/bleeter/ |
| 09:38.54 | Wobin | Dewin: terrifail |
| 09:39.05 | bleeter | ^^ |
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| 09:39.11 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 09:39.13 | Pertheria | shit, its doin it to me too |
| 09:39.21 | ZorbaBeta | argh wow broken >:( |
| 09:39.23 | Pertheria | at least its not you |
| 09:39.39 | bleeter | lulz |
| 09:39.43 | ZorbaBeta | I demand a refund for the thirty minutesI will be unable to log back in |
| 09:39.53 | bluspacecow | so |
| 09:39.59 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:40.02 | ZorbaBeta | by my calculations that is approximately one cent |
| 09:40.06 | ZorbaBeta | I will be expecting a check in the mail |
| 09:40.07 | bluspacecow | i has 20-30 mins |
| 09:40.11 | bluspacecow | to play before work |
| 09:40.18 | bluspacecow | but can't cause login server fall over |
| 09:40.22 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 09:40.38 | bluspacecow | did a traceroute to us.logon.battle.net |
| 09:40.44 | bluspacecow | traffic appears to be getting there |
| 09:40.48 | bluspacecow | just not going |
| 09:40.58 | Dewin | The traffic reaches the door but left the keys at home |
| 09:41.08 | airtonix | i solved it |
| 09:41.13 | airtonix | it's really simple |
| 09:41.28 | airtonix | Fisker, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K853GykeGH0 |
| 09:41.48 | bluspacecow | i am waiting with baited breath as to how you solved it. |
| 09:41.51 | airtonix | Ello!!!, How Come I Rich And Yuh Not. How Come Yuh No Sell Real Estate Like I Do. HOw Come I Sleep With Your Wife Wen ur At Work. And Then Pee in Your Toilet And Dont Flush, and sometimes i pee in the back part so wen yuh flush pee come out. you know why cause im smart and you stupid. Call Now!!! |
| 09:42.27 | Fisker | airtonix, |
| 09:42.32 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:42.35 | Fisker | airtonix, |
| 09:42.39 | Xinhuan | i'm not so concerned about the login server |
| 09:42.40 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:42.43 | Fisker | airtonix, |
| 09:42.45 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:42.47 | Fisker | airtonix, |
| 09:42.48 | Xinhuan | i'm more concerned about the 4 hour queue |
| 09:42.50 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:42.52 | Fisker | airtonix,  |
| 09:42.53 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:42.55 | Fisker | airtonix,  |
| 09:42.56 | Xinhuan | because the server would have deemed me d/ced by now |
| 09:42.57 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:43.04 | airtonix | aha! |
| 09:43.08 | Dewin | <3 being a tank |
| 09:43.19 | Dewin | granted, all of our heroics have been 4/5 or 5/5 guild |
| 09:43.23 | bluspacecow | i read all that with a thick south african accent airtonix |
| 09:43.28 | bluspacecow | 5/10 |
| 09:43.32 | airtonix | Dewin, you and the rest of Donalds family. |
| 09:44.11 | airtonix | spaceGoat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g9YUyJHm48 |
| 09:44.34 | Dewin | what's with youtube having ads now? >.> |
| 09:44.47 | airtonix | it's not just an advert |
| 09:44.52 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 09:44.56 | airtonix | it's a classic piece of history |
| 09:45.01 | Dewin | No. The being prompted to watch an ad before watching the video. |
| 09:45.06 | bluspacecow | hmm' |
| 09:45.13 | airtonix | Dewin, oh thats just you |
| 09:45.15 | Dewin | Oh. That one doesn't have it |
| 09:45.40 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 09:45.50 | bluspacecow | theres like 20 threads on the forums about the login server being down |
| 09:45.55 | Dewin | only 20? |
| 09:45.58 | airtonix | MAKE ANOTHER ONE! |
| 09:46.08 | bluspacecow | or 30 or 40 |
| 09:46.24 | airtonix | yeah make another 30 or 40 threads about it |
| 09:46.46 | Primer | well, made it past the second boss |
| 09:46.50 | Primer | interesting fight |
| 09:46.54 | bluspacecow | no blizzard word on it yet... just nubs bumping old posts about it being down with blue posts in them. |
| 09:47.04 | bleeter | no blue on duty |
| 09:47.52 | bluspacecow | CS blues on 24/7 |
| 09:48.21 | bleeter | oh, recent changes |
| 09:50.03 | Pertheria | he's prolly on lunch bluspacecow hehe |
| 09:50.19 | Pertheria | or like me, when i worked over night all alone in the call center... watching a movie on their laptop haha |
| 09:50.33 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 09:50.39 | bluspacecow | i blame fisker |
| 09:50.43 | bluspacecow | for being too awesome |
| 09:50.47 | bleeter | blames cog|away |
| 09:50.59 | bluspacecow | its always cogwheels fault. |
| 09:51.12 | bleeter | except when it used to be all Cide's |
| 09:52.02 | Pertheria | wow, stuck at connecting this time |
| 09:53.09 | airtonix | it's the stray cats fault |
| 09:53.10 | a-stray-cat | mejh |
| 09:53.16 | a-stray-cat | i can't hear antytheing |
| 09:53.21 | airtonix | o.O |
| 09:53.23 | bleeter | still need more 'login server's dead' threads |
| 09:53.31 | a-stray-cat | soooo ak |
| 09:53.34 | a-stray-cat | ka |
| 09:54.00 | a-stray-cat | li have to say |
| 09:54.03 | airtonix | stray black cat |
| 09:54.06 | bleeter | because, as we all know, a server's ability to recover is propotional to QQ spewed forth |
| 09:54.07 | a-stray-cat | the only one i miss is ryken |
| 09:54.19 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 09:54.26 | airtonix | i think your cat is loose |
| 09:54.34 | a-stray-cat | <3 |
| 09:54.49 | bluspacecow | probably doesn't help tons of people hitting the servers either |
| 09:54.56 | bleeter | a-stray-cat: fisker has a loose pussy? |
| 09:55.03 | a-stray-cat | perhaps so |
| 09:55.21 | bleeter | s/a-stray-cat/airtonix/ |
| 09:55.24 | a-stray-cat | alas we'll not know till tjhe other teams come into play |
| 09:56.14 | airtonix | bleeter, does he? |
| 09:56.34 | bleeter | airtonix: I think so |
| 09:56.48 | bleeter | largely circumstantial evidence, I admit |
| 09:58.15 | a-stray-cat | alas bleeter, you'll have to wait until we call someone other than our closeent friends ;3 |
| 10:01.38 | Xyphoid | so i should have looked at irc before logging off |
| 10:03.28 | airtonix | bluspacecow, i fixed it by refusing to playt |
| 10:03.30 | airtonix | play* |
| 10:03.39 | bluspacecow | *thumbs up* |
| 10:03.40 | bluspacecow | nice ! |
| 10:03.43 | bluspacecow | 4/10 |
| 10:03.47 | airtonix | :( |
| 10:04.40 | airtonix | i sense impending doom |
| 10:09.05 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: I'm still waiting for your 3dvision tomtom arrow :P |
| 10:09.22 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: feel free to write it =) |
| 10:10.25 | bleeter | jnwhiteh: :P |
| 10:11.33 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: By the way, one small question...there's an module for PerfectRaid called "PerfectRaid_RaidIcons" on WoWI. Did you incorporate that into your latest build? Enabling them together has Dongle throw an error about there being two of 'em. |
| 10:11.54 | jnwhiteh | yes, its been integrated for quite some time |
| 10:12.04 | Thrae | Gotcha. |
| 10:12.05 | jnwhiteh | I use it constantly =) |
| 10:12.11 | jnwhiteh | which is why things get integrated :P |
| 10:13.10 | Thrae | Cairenn|afk: What's the protocol when a module is made for an addon that later integrates the exact same functionality, and the previous module not only becomes obsolete, it causes an error? |
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| 10:13.26 | jnwhiteh | we could move it to out-of-date |
| 10:13.41 | jnwhiteh | but just like someone installing two version of the same addon with different names, its up to the user to sort that out, really |
| 10:14.56 | Fisker | damnit |
| 10:14.59 | Thrae | Well I generally assume the user's view of the error is going to be "Duuuhhh..." Especially if they only use the default error handler. |
| 10:15.07 | Fisker | even when it comes to school shootings the french are the first to surrender |
| 10:15.31 | Thrae | That wouldn't be your job to fix of course jnwhiteh, but it would be something for maybe Cairenn|afk to think about from a customer service standpoint. That's just what I was thinking. |
| 10:15.44 | Pertheria | didnt we discuss this yesterday fisker?.. them needing to change their flag to entirely white? |
| 10:16.05 | Fisker | i don't know |
| 10:16.13 | Fisker | But some kid is holding hostages |
| 10:16.18 | Fisker | and he already SURRENDERED 5 |
| 10:16.19 | Fisker | tsk. |
| 10:16.21 | Thrae | Either way it's a very minor issue |
| 10:16.48 | Thrae | Actually, wait |
| 10:17.00 | Thrae | It was your fault jnwhiteh :D |
| 10:17.13 | jnwhiteh | tell me why I care? =) |
| 10:17.19 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html <-- "You may find the following additional addons/modules useful:" |
| 10:17.28 | Thrae | "PerfectRaid_RaidIcons" |
| 10:17.33 | jnwhiteh | you may find it useful |
| 10:17.42 | Thrae | Useful to get an error message from Dongle? |
| 10:17.42 | jnwhiteh | if you'd like to create an error conflicting with a new core module |
| 10:17.47 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 10:17.50 | Thrae | Now you're just being mean |
| 10:19.00 | Thrae | We don't want Dongle to turn into some type of Joke framework. No Jokers in jnwhiteh's coding and writing. |
| 10:20.08 | jnwhiteh | #nojoke |
| 10:20.08 | jnwhiteh | imo |
| 10:21.32 | Thrae | :D |
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| 10:29.42 | Primer | Anyone have any opinion about mastery for resto druid? |
| 10:30.13 | Primer | Finally got through heroic VP |
| 10:30.29 | Primer | what a bitch...ironically, the last boss was the easiest |
| 10:31.08 | Thrae | Primer: I've been hearing if you still have mana problems at all, Resto Mastery --> Spirit reforging. |
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| 10:31.51 | Primer | yeah |
| 10:31.55 | Primer | that's what I was thinking |
| 10:32.04 | Thrae | And you probably do have Mana Problems :D It's generally accepted to go through Heroics with 3/3 in Moonglow + 2/3 in Furor, as well as the 4% Lifebloom OOC proc talent. |
| 10:32.40 | Thrae | Since now Lifebloom went back to being our main HoT, pre-raid. |
| 10:33.11 | Primer | yeah, LB is my bread and butter now |
| 10:33.22 | Primer | 3 stacks on tank hitting for 35k |
| 10:34.19 | Thrae | Yeah, which is why I think pre-raid the +10% Lifebloom Crit Glyph is worth it. More than Rejuv and especially more than Regrowth. |
| 10:36.15 | Thrae | The Regrowth one sounds nice, but its HoT component just doesn't heal enough, even with Nature's Bounty, to logically get much of a chance at a player at 25% health. PvP BG is a different story, where people are expected to die lots. |
| 10:37.30 | Primer | reforged...1800 mp5 in combat |
| 10:39.01 | Thrae | For me the logic goes like this -- with 3/3 in Nature's Bounty, Regrowth has +60% crit rate which works for both its direct *and* HoT. So you're going to throw that on someone nearing 25% if a HT isn't enough. If they get to 25% *again* after major Regrowth crittage with the HoT, you're in a very, very bad situation most likely |
| 10:40.03 | Thrae | Haste will also speed up the HoT too, so it's not exactly 9 seconds anymore |
| 10:40.33 | Primer | I usually start off by putting 3 stacks of LB on the tank, rejuv, WG, drink before combat |
| 10:40.46 | Primer | SM on the tank before rejuv runs out |
| 10:40.59 | Primer | I don't dare pop brocolli form |
| 10:41.08 | Primer | go oom much faster |
| 10:41.27 | Primer | I'm using regrowth as my filler for spike |
| 10:41.32 | Primer | HT for major spike |
| 10:42.05 | Primer | first one being chained to nature's swiftness macro |
| 10:42.42 | Primer | bottom line is, healing has become a LOT less trivial |
| 10:43.03 | Thrae | Seems to me like a similar argument as to how situational the Ferocious Bite Glyph is, as currently the glyph reduces the maximum damage of FB (which several Cat talents buff) in favour of giving you a variable amount of extra energy. |
| 10:43.17 | Thrae | Yeah that's for sure. |
| 10:43.29 | Primer | now I want to know why my stance macro stopped working |
| 10:43.42 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.49 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.51 | Primer | ... |
| 10:43.56 | Primer | there's more to it |
| 10:44.16 | Primer | basically an all-in-one druid mount traveling macro |
| 10:44.17 | jnwhiteh | Primer: you dont go oom more by going ToL |
| 10:44.27 | jnwhiteh | there's nothing forcing you to cast regrowth there |
| 10:44.32 | jnwhiteh | and you still get a flat bonus to your healing |
| 10:44.46 | Primer | searches for ToL |
| 10:45.06 | jnwhiteh | increases healign done by 15% |
| 10:45.27 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: I dropped Nature's Bounty entirely in my latest build |
| 10:45.34 | jnwhiteh | I've found I want/need efforvescence in heroics |
| 10:45.55 | jnwhiteh | my swiftmend crits for 20k or so, so having 6k applied to all 5 people if they can get in the circle is 30k of healing for free |
| 10:46.06 | Thrae | Tree of Life, from memory, is mainly a Healing Bonus for all spells but Regrowth, which gets the Healing Bonus and Instant-Cast |
| 10:46.18 | jnwhiteh | lifebloom gets the better bonus |
| 10:46.18 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: That's nice. Are there any threat issues? |
| 10:46.21 | jnwhiteh | by far |
| 10:46.25 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: not one |
| 10:46.33 | Thrae | Oh right, multi-target Lifebloom |
| 10:46.37 | Primer | well, casting ToL makes me want to spam regrowth :) |
| 10:46.43 | jnwhiteh | don't./ |
| 10:46.44 | Primer | I thought that was the neatest thing ever |
| 10:46.45 | jnwhiteh | dont ever cast regrowth |
| 10:46.46 | Primer | yeah |
| 10:46.52 | jnwhiteh | except to proc your haste buff |
| 10:46.57 | Primer | so jnwhiteh |
| 10:47.01 | jnwhiteh | swiftmend instead :P |
| 10:47.14 | Primer | I took some code from TomTomLite and added it to FlightHUD, fully attributed to you |
| 10:47.18 | jnwhiteh | the problem druid healers have right now is there is no way to get a group that is taking multiple target or aoe damage back up |
| 10:47.20 | Primer | Is that OK? |
| 10:47.26 | jnwhiteh | Primer: depends on the code |
| 10:47.45 | jnwhiteh | probably, but I'd appreciate you asking so I can take a look at it :P |
| 10:47.55 | jnwhiteh | err, I appreciate |
| 10:47.58 | jnwhiteh | since you're asking now |
| 10:48.02 | jnwhiteh | can you pastey it for me? |
| 10:48.08 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/view/trunk/FlightHUD.lua |
| 10:48.17 | Primer | search for tomtom |
| 10:48.51 | jnwhiteh | I'm not using POIAnchorToCoord anymore |
| 10:48.53 | jnwhiteh | and you shouldn't be either |
| 10:48.54 | jnwhiteh | !\ |
| 10:48.59 | Primer | I know I should ARR my code...haven't gotten around to it |
| 10:49.05 | Primer | yeah, I just haven't removed it |
| 10:49.17 | Primer | I still have a click handler for that for the world map |
| 10:49.22 | Primer | but it's useless |
| 10:49.26 | Thrae | A Talented Healing Touch is 2.5s cast time with +10% effectiveness and two huge bonuses -- refreshing Lifebloom (crit or no crit), and Living Seed on crit. |
| 10:49.49 | jnwhiteh | Nourish/HT/Lifebloom is our life |
| 10:49.54 | jnwhiteh | which makes party healing suck |
| 10:49.55 | Primer | was |
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| 10:50.03 | Primer | nourish is useless, IMO |
| 10:50.53 | jnwhiteh | its not |
| 10:50.54 | jnwhiteh | at all |
| 10:50.56 | Primer | lifebloom, WG (although I don't cast this on every CD any more), HT on spikes |
| 10:51.06 | jnwhiteh | you should be chain casting nourish |
| 10:51.08 | jnwhiteh | on your tank |
| 10:51.11 | jnwhiteh | waiting for CC to proc |
| 10:51.14 | jnwhiteh | its free |
| 10:51.14 | Primer | it heals for so little though |
| 10:51.18 | jnwhiteh | no it doesn't. |
| 10:51.18 | mojosdojo | cast Nourish if nothing else fits, it costs nothing |
| 10:51.24 | jnwhiteh | 8k-12k? |
| 10:51.25 | jnwhiteh | that's not nothing |
| 10:51.41 | jnwhiteh | you clearly were never a priest during MC healing days |
| 10:51.44 | jnwhiteh | this is exactly how they had to heal |
| 10:51.49 | jnwhiteh | without the benefit of lifebloom |
| 10:51.54 | Primer | the incoming heal is a sliver in my raid frame |
| 10:52.02 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 10:52.12 | jnwhiteh | thats because the detection is wrong |
| 10:52.18 | jnwhiteh | my nourish crits, a lot, for 12-14k |
| 10:52.26 | jnwhiteh | it heals every time on my lb target for 8k minimum |
| 10:52.41 | jnwhiteh | even in heroics, I'm usingi t |
| 10:52.47 | jnwhiteh | HT is _EXPENSIVE_ |
| 10:52.55 | Primer | yes |
| 10:52.57 | Primer | very |
| 10:53.04 | jnwhiteh | Nourish is free, for all intents and purposes |
| 10:53.09 | jnwhiteh | I literally can chain cast it with no mana |
| 10:53.11 | Primer | as is regrowth |
| 10:53.32 | jnwhiteh | if you use nourish on a target withotu a hot, you're diong it wrong |
| 10:53.33 | jnwhiteh | very very wrong |
| 10:53.39 | jnwhiteh | but with a hot, and with mastery |
| 10:53.51 | jnwhiteh | on the main tank, its a way to keep them topped up |
| 10:53.53 | Primer | heh, I reforged all my mastery into spirit |
| 10:53.58 | jnwhiteh | no you didn't |
| 10:54.01 | Primer | I did |
| 10:54.03 | jnwhiteh | you reforged 40% of yoru mastery into spirit |
| 10:54.03 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 10:54.04 | jnwhiteh | you can't |
| 10:54.05 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:54.09 | jnwhiteh | you still have 60% of your mastery |
| 10:54.21 | jnwhiteh | and mastery DOES make a difference for tank healing |
| 10:54.25 | Primer | anything that had mastery and not spirit is now spirit |
| 10:54.29 | jnwhiteh | its been anywhere between a 6k and a 10k difference |
| 10:54.33 | Thrae | At a full cost, no crit, HT heals for 262.1 per 1% of mana used. At full cost, no crit, Regrowth heals for 102.3 and 30.94 over 6 seconds every 2 seconds per 1% of mana used. Regrowth would have to crit a lot and HT crit less to get up to HT's mana efficiency, not counting the bonuses HT brings. |
| 10:54.36 | jnwhiteh | Primer: you cannot reforge every stat point |
| 10:54.42 | Primer | yes, I know |
| 10:54.43 | jnwhiteh | you can only reforge 40% ofa secondary stat |
| 10:54.48 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 10:54.49 | Primer | I'm talking about what I could reforge |
| 10:54.54 | jnwhiteh | well then you still have mastery, so it still matters :P |
| 10:54.55 | ZorbaBeta | I think he means that he's reforged every amount that he could reforge |
| 10:54.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm spirit happy |
| 10:55.09 | jnwhiteh | ZorbaBeta: but the implication was that mastery was a non-factor as a result of that, which isn't the case :P |
| 10:55.17 | jnwhiteh | I need to get haste capped soon |
| 10:55.41 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: I don't think anyone is arguing that HT isn't the most efficient heal we have |
| 10:55.44 | Primer | oh, I'm wearing 2 mastery trinkets over 2 int ones I have |
| 10:55.55 | jnwhiteh | Primer: why??? |
| 10:55.57 | jnwhiteh | int > all |
| 10:56.03 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: I like math |
| 10:56.08 | Xinhuan | jnwhiteh, have you noticed that astrolabe (or perhaps tomtom using it) is causing a split second "wow hang" every 1 second or so when the world map is open? |
| 10:56.18 | Primer | mastery trinks are 333, int...much less |
| 10:56.20 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: I dont use TomTom or Astrolabe anymore |
| 10:56.24 | jnwhiteh | so no I haven't. |
| 10:56.37 | Thrae | Xinhuan: I use the release versions of both of those and encountered no problems on my setup. |
| 10:56.43 | Xinhuan | but its your addon, no? |
| 10:56.43 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: What are the stats of HT versus Nourish? |
| 10:56.54 | jnwhiteh | it is, but I've heard no reports and I don't use it to have experienced it |
| 10:56.56 | Thrae | Although my version of Astrolabe is missing most of Cata =/ |
| 10:56.59 | jnwhiteh | that's what I'm saying |
| 10:57.02 | Xinhuan | Thrae, its only when the world map is open |
| 10:57.07 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: thats not release version then |
| 10:57.10 | Xinhuan | i stated that |
| 10:57.15 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: probably some event race condition |
| 10:57.15 | Primer | I've been seeing this "C stack overflow" in Astrolabe code |
| 10:57.25 | Primer | I've had 2 bug reports on it, and I've seen it myself |
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| 10:57.47 | jnwhiteh | you just don't need to use the stateful map system the way its being used right now |
| 10:57.51 | Primer | doesn't seem to affect anything though |
| 10:57.53 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: Hmm, maybe some older version is overriding it. I have the release version of TomTom (not Lite), Mapster, etc. and it complains about not knowing what Hyjal Summit is. |
| 10:57.54 | Xinhuan | its not, its because astrolabe appears to set the map to the current player's position, then sets it back to the previous map that the world map is open on every second |
| 10:57.56 | jnwhiteh | which is why I've moved away and I'm doing it all myself |
| 10:58.06 | Xinhuan | so that is causing WORLD_MAP_UPDATE to fire twice every second |
| 10:58.20 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: yeah thats completely and wholly unnecessary |
| 10:58.30 | Primer | I've been seeing WORLD_MAP_UPDATE fire a lot, but not that much |
| 10:58.38 | jnwhiteh | Oh |
| 10:58.41 | Primer | while debugging my addon |
| 10:58.42 | jnwhiteh | this is the right crowd |
| 10:58.47 | jnwhiteh | I'm leaving for two weeks, tomorrow |
| 10:58.50 | jnwhiteh | so I won't be able to do anything |
| 10:58.57 | jnwhiteh | other than push releases and commit code someone sends to me |
| 10:58.59 | Xinhuan | i disabled tomtom and the problem goes away |
| 10:59.02 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 10:59.05 | jnwhiteh | and during the second week I won't be able to do that either |
| 10:59.08 | jnwhiteh | but I'll try |
| 10:59.17 | jnwhiteh | so if you guys can get me any information, I'll do what I can |
| 10:59.36 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: only tomTom enabled? |
| 10:59.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 10:59.58 | Primer | I'm not seeing what you're describing |
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| 11:00.08 | Primer | and my addon uses the latest Astrolabe |
| 11:00.16 | Primer | which I've svn up every day |
| 11:00.18 | Xinhuan | it could be related to deepholme |
| 11:00.23 | Thrae | At full cost, no crit, Nourish heals for 259.7 per 1% of mana (again, base mana) consumed. And as always this is untalented unglyphed, etc. just base numbers. |
| 11:00.38 | Xinhuan | because i've noticed my map constantly changing while in stonecore |
| 11:00.49 | Primer | ok, seems I really must revisit resto druid |
| 11:00.53 | Primer | Thrae: mind if I armory you? |
| 11:00.58 | Primer | for your spec |
| 11:01.10 | Primer | I healed this last heroic with 3 unspent talent points |
| 11:01.15 | Thrae | Primer: You're better off Armoring jnwhiteh as I'm not even Level 85 yet |
| 11:01.23 | Primer | all because I couldn't think of what would be useful |
| 11:01.31 | Thrae | All I'm doing is just playing with math |
| 11:01.49 | Thrae | And Non-Heroic Experiences |
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| 11:02.10 | Primer | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gorgonnash/funkybear/simple |
| 11:02.12 | Primer | that's my dude |
| 11:02.53 | Primer | upgraded my neck, but haven't logged out yet, so average item level is 331 now |
| 11:03.07 | Primer | should be good for a laugh :) |
| 11:04.04 | Thrae | Specifically for Nourish you get +20% for any HoTs (and there probably will be one) and +10% from talents, as well as 2.5s cast time (like HT) and crit chance to proc Living Seed as well as the extra healing from the crit itself. |
| 11:05.28 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 11:05.37 | Xinhuan | it appears to be some sort of interaction between some addons |
| 11:05.40 | Primer | would love to replace my idol/relic |
| 11:05.43 | Xinhuan | have to figure something out later |
| 11:06.49 | Thrae | From my analysis, Nourish is superior to HT except when health is low and you need a higher upfront heal. Also with Regrowth it may be considered a "Flash Heal" (while Nourish was our original Flash Heal), and while I haven't seen the numbers, Regrowth may scale with Int worse (now that Int gives Spellpower). |
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| 11:08.36 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: exactly what my assessment is |
| 11:08.37 | Thrae | I had a "Hardcore WoW Resto" blogger up but I closed it and forgot the address =/ Right now I'm looking at http://theincbear.com/ as I want to level a second Druid |
| 11:08.41 | jnwhiteh | thanks for reassuring me :P\ |
| 11:08.42 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, isn't HT higher HPS? |
| 11:08.49 | jnwhiteh | sure |
| 11:08.57 | jnwhiteh | but HPS isn't everything |
| 11:09.04 | ZorbaBeta | sure, but it's also not nothing |
| 11:09.06 | jnwhiteh | as a matter of fact, right now, healing is more about NOT healing than anythign else |
| 11:09.24 | jnwhiteh | you obviously don't use Nourish when someone is missing 60k health |
| 11:09.25 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Of course it is, because both HT and Nourish are instants with a talented cast time of 2.5s (not including haste). That's like saying which of them heals more upfront :D |
| 11:09.26 | ZorbaBeta | from my understanding, nourish is far superior unless you actually need the throughput |
| 11:09.39 | jnwhiteh | but when they're missing 12k, you can cast Nourish and top them up, continously |
| 11:09.47 | Thrae | errr, "instants" isn't the right word there...direct heals |
| 11:09.47 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, ah, fair enough. I'd consider "upfront healing" to be burst healing, as opposed to sustained healing |
| 11:09.53 | jnwhiteh | I've kept my tank alive for 1.5 minutes with no pots, no innervate and just rolling my lb/nourish :P |
| 11:10.18 | jnwhiteh | The issue I have as a druid right now is aoe/group healing |
| 11:10.25 | jnwhiteh | when the tank is in trouble as well |
| 11:10.33 | jnwhiteh | mainly because peopl don't know tactics |
| 11:10.37 | jnwhiteh | so DPS is taking stupid damage |
| 11:10.47 | jnwhiteh | while the boss is in frenzy =) |
| 11:10.55 | ZorbaBeta | it certainly depends on what pulls you're doing also, some are a hell of a lot more damage-intensive than others |
| 11:11.01 | ZorbaBeta | see the star clusters in Vortex Pinnacle, for example |
| 11:11.07 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 11:11.11 | Xyphoid | i had people getting out of healing rain because they thought it was a boss ability |
| 11:11.12 | Xyphoid | whoops |
| 11:11.27 | jnwhiteh | I spam nourish until I need a good 20k heal, or clearcastign procs |
| 11:11.31 | ZorbaBeta | xyphoid, I have a hell of a hard time on that third deadmines boss |
| 11:11.34 | jnwhiteh | nourish NOT consumign clearcastign is both a blessing and a curse |
| 11:11.36 | ZorbaBeta | his ability: giant green circle on the ground |
| 11:11.44 | jnwhiteh | Lockmaw in Lost City on heroic is RIDICULOUS |
| 11:11.45 | ZorbaBeta | my healer's ability: giant green circle on the ground |
| 11:11.47 | ZorbaBeta | ffffffff |
| 11:12.15 | jnwhiteh | the last boss in VP I've found to be very difficult |
| 11:12.19 | Thrae | How Resto works right now with Nourish and HT is very similar due to Living Seed + same -0.5s + same 10% bonus + same can-refresh-Lifebloom for each. They are very well synergized in the talents and easily complement each other, IMHO. |
| 11:12.22 | Primer | yeah, I had a chance to wipe on him several times the day I turned 85 |
| 11:12.28 | Primer | really? |
| 11:12.29 | jnwhiteh | but I didnt' quite understand upwind/downwind last time |
| 11:12.29 | ZorbaBeta | jn, really? I've found him to be absolutely trivial |
| 11:12.34 | jnwhiteh | adn the raid leader YELLED at me when I tried to move |
| 11:12.35 | Primer | I found the last boss in VP to be the easiest |
| 11:12.36 | ZorbaBeta | oh, that's not the last boss |
| 11:12.39 | jnwhiteh | he claimed all I had to do was face the wind |
| 11:12.40 | ZorbaBeta | that's the second-to-last boss |
| 11:12.42 | jnwhiteh | oh okay |
| 11:12.47 | ZorbaBeta | the last boss is the spark pyramid dude |
| 11:12.48 | Ycarene | Do HoT's crit on tick? |
| 11:12.50 | jnwhiteh | err face the direction the wind is going |
| 11:12.52 | jnwhiteh | Ycarene: yes |
| 11:13.02 | Ycarene | That's Bullsh*t |
| 11:13.06 | Thrae | Ycarene: In Cata *all* of them do, unless a glyph takes it away :) |
| 11:13.10 | ZorbaBeta | the wind guy isn't bad on normal, but he's rather painful on heroic |
| 11:13.11 | jnwhiteh | yes.. thats buillshit |
| 11:13.15 | jnwhiteh | it makes us effcetive healears |
| 11:13.20 | jnwhiteh | I'm outraged |
| 11:13.24 | jnwhiteh | So where DO you need to stand to get the buff? |
| 11:13.26 | jnwhiteh | and avoid the debuff |
| 11:13.29 | Primer | the first boss of heroic VP was far worse |
| 11:13.31 | jnwhiteh | I've still not 100% clear on this |
| 11:13.34 | ZorbaBeta | jn, look where the wind is coming from, stand upwind of the boss |
| 11:13.37 | jnwhiteh | Primer: which one is that? |
| 11:13.38 | ZorbaBeta | he'll move the wind and then you need to move also |
| 11:13.42 | Ycarene | How can I control healing aggro if I have to worry about a big heal critting and getting me planted in the ground. |
| 11:13.43 | sylvanaar | upwind |
| 11:13.47 | ZorbaBeta | on heroic there's an absolute shitload of movement on that fight |
| 11:13.50 | jnwhiteh | you have healing aggro? |
| 11:13.51 | jnwhiteh | then you're doing it wrong |
| 11:13.52 | Xinhuan | that's not quite correct, you have to face the direction the wind is blowing, and stand on the half of the circle that it is blowing from i think? |
| 11:13.53 | Thrae | Ycarene: They also all now benefit from Haste to increase tic rate while decreasing duration. |
| 11:13.53 | jnwhiteh | very very very wrong |
| 11:13.55 | ZorbaBeta | ycarene, if healing aggro is a big issue, your tank is doing something wrong |
| 11:13.57 | sylvanaar | 1/2 way |
| 11:14.06 | ZorbaBeta | xinhuan, your facing is irrelevant |
| 11:14.06 | jnwhiteh | threat as a healer shoudl NOt be an issue, full stop |
| 11:14.06 | Primer | err, I'm so out of it...I don't remember |
| 11:14.11 | ZorbaBeta | you just have to stand further upwind than the boss is |
| 11:14.17 | sylvanaar | man those tornadoes on heroic are annoying |
| 11:14.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah they are |
| 11:14.27 | ZorbaBeta | draw a line through the boss, perpendicular to the wind. stand on the upwind side of that line. that's it. |
| 11:14.27 | Ycarene | I ALWAYS worry about healing aggro, besides, it's actually a factor now with the changes to tanking. |
| 11:14.32 | jnwhiteh | I had lots of issues healing it the other day |
| 11:14.36 | jnwhiteh | Ycarene: not really, no |
| 11:14.45 | ZorbaBeta | ycarene, not that much of a factor, I'm pretty sure every tanking class has some method of getting aoe aggro |
| 11:14.46 | Primer | well, I cleared heroic VP for the first time tonight, and we wiped more on the first boss than any other |
| 11:14.48 | Xinhuan | hmm that didn't work on some occasions zorba |
| 11:14.58 | Primer | only wiped once on the last bos |
| 11:14.58 | Primer | s |
| 11:15.00 | Xinhuan | i was clearly behind the boss |
| 11:15.11 | ZorbaBeta | xinhuan, you probably have to be in front of the boss |
| 11:15.16 | Ycarene | ZorbaBeta - Yeah, but it's not nearly as effective as it used to be. |
| 11:15.21 | Primer | first boss is the one with the tornados, and the elementals you have to face |
| 11:15.22 | sylvanaar | its not upwind from the boss, is 1/2 the room |
| 11:15.23 | ZorbaBeta | the tank will be tanking him upwind, and you will have to be upwind also. so you'll probably be in front. |
| 11:15.27 | jnwhiteh | you're not supposed to be in front of him, because of the breath |
| 11:15.36 | Primer | no one know what to do, so we had to learn the mechanics by doing |
| 11:15.37 | ZorbaBeta | the breath is a narrow cone |
| 11:15.41 | Xinhuan | the breathe is random target, not on the tank |
| 11:15.42 | ZorbaBeta | you have to be in the front 180 degrees |
| 11:15.43 | sylvanaar | upwind from the boss would be impossible when the wind blew toward the boss |
| 11:15.52 | jnwhiteh | ah hrm |
| 11:15.56 | ZorbaBeta | sylvanaar, tank the boss in the center |
| 11:15.58 | jnwhiteh | i suppose you have to be right |
| 11:16.04 | jnwhiteh | the tank has to be downwind |
| 11:16.05 | Primer | the haste buff on that boss is sweet though |
| 11:16.07 | jnwhiteh | so you need to be behind the tank |
| 11:16.08 | sylvanaar | in the center? |
| 11:16.09 | Thrae | The way AoE Tanking has changed for pretty much all classes, some more drastically than others, so it's not surprising not everyone is as seasoned at it like the previous ICC/Ruby Sanctum. |
| 11:16.10 | ZorbaBeta | then you move to be upwind no matter what |
| 11:16.15 | ZorbaBeta | jn, no, the tank can be upwind as well |
| 11:16.18 | sylvanaar | with the tornadoes |
| 11:16.21 | jnwhiteh | but he shouldn't be :P |
| 11:16.21 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:16.35 | ZorbaBeta | seriously I've killed this boss on heroic like three times, everyone can - and quite possibly should - be upwind. you'll need the mobility and the damage |
| 11:16.35 | sylvanaar | ok, well, i'll have to recheck my facts then |
| 11:16.36 | Primer | the frontal cone aoe is a random target anyhow |
| 11:16.38 | jnwhiteh | Ycarene: I've tanked and healed, and I've never had a healer catch aggro on anything other than bizarre fights like Lockmaw |
| 11:16.49 | ZorbaBeta | spread out so the cone only hits one or two targets, avoid tornados, kill boss :) |
| 11:16.50 | jnwhiteh | we're just not doing enough healing to have that problem |
| 11:16.54 | Ycarene | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:17.16 | jnwhiteh | don't pre-hot? |
| 11:17.25 | ZorbaBeta | ycarene, a single tick of rend, dnd, or consecrate oughta outdo any amount of healing threat |
| 11:17.36 | Primer | indeed |
| 11:17.43 | ZorbaBeta | I don't know what bears have offhand but I suspect it's something |
| 11:17.56 | Ycarene | swipe? |
| 11:18.05 | ZorbaBeta | maybe, I haven't looked into bear abilities lately |
| 11:18.05 | jnwhiteh | you -want- your hots to tick, I promise |
| 11:18.10 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: With stuff like inherent uncrittability, larger health pools, and better DCs, aren't the fights less spikey overall unless someone really does screws up? |
| 11:18.19 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: yes, in general |
| 11:18.22 | ZorbaBeta | also, my druid healer claimed that prehots don't contribute to threat |
| 11:18.29 | jnwhiteh | but people don't know what they're doing these days |
| 11:18.32 | ZorbaBeta | only hots cast after the pull contribute. I suspect she's right, she tends to know her shit. |
| 11:18.32 | jnwhiteh | ZorbaBeta: lifebloom won't |
| 11:18.34 | Primer | boss fights, yeah |
| 11:18.36 | jnwhiteh | that threat still goes on the tank |
| 11:18.38 | Primer | trash, OTOH... |
| 11:18.41 | Primer | hehe |
| 11:18.47 | jnwhiteh | I always triple LB before a boss fight |
| 11:18.51 | Primer | same here |
| 11:18.55 | Xinhuan | uh uh the bloom of lifebloom does 0 threat |
| 11:18.57 | jnwhiteh | and I've _never_ pulled aggo doing that |
| 11:19.04 | Primer | then stop to drink really fast as he runs in :) |
| 11:19.05 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: that's fine too then :P |
| 11:19.05 | Xinhuan | the tank or the healer doesn't gain anything |
| 11:19.13 | Xinhuan | i did A LOT of tests on this |
| 11:19.15 | jnwhiteh | all I know is the net effect |
| 11:19.16 | Xinhuan | back when threat-2.0 still existed |
| 11:19.21 | jnwhiteh | not the precise mechanics :P |
| 11:19.35 | jnwhiteh | I really really wish we had a mini-tranquility |
| 11:19.53 | jnwhiteh | or some other better way or bringing up a raid that's dropped low as a group |
| 11:20.24 | Thrae | Hey, Druids only got one healing tree...the two tree Priest would get way jealous |
| 11:20.33 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 11:20.34 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 11:20.42 | jnwhiteh | We have two trees |
| 11:20.44 | jnwhiteh | just one is broccoli |
| 11:20.48 | jnwhiteh | *terrible* |
| 11:21.12 | Xinhuan | our raids are now "stand in the circle" "stand in the circle" "stand in the circle" |
| 11:21.14 | Xinhuan | on vent |
| 11:21.33 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:21.38 | jnwhiteh | it does make quite a difference\ |
| 11:21.46 | jnwhiteh | I want the trinket |
| 11:21.53 | jnwhiteh | that reduces the cost of spells by 405 |
| 11:21.54 | Xinhuan | and "can you don't place the lightwell next to the dragon, its impossible to click" |
| 11:22.02 | jnwhiteh | like, I'd give sexual favours for it |
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| 11:22.25 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: Upgraded Snowflake? |
| 11:22.26 | jnwhiteh | actually |
| 11:22.36 | jnwhiteh | I'd be happy with a tranquility glyph |
| 11:22.38 | jnwhiteh | reducing the cooldown |
| 11:22.45 | jnwhiteh | having it once every other boss attempt makes me sad |
| 11:23.40 | jnwhiteh | it is really weird that we only have three spells that clearcasting works with |
| 11:23.45 | Thrae | Reduce Cooldown by X and decrease healed by X? Or maybe something more spicy, like Reduce Cooldown by X and increase Threat by X. |
| 11:23.48 | jnwhiteh | well, healing spells |
| 11:23.58 | jnwhiteh | Thrae: _something_ yeah |
| 11:24.07 | jnwhiteh | I want to use tranq all the time |
| 11:24.13 | jnwhiteh | I miss having PoH |
| 11:24.14 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:25.20 | Thrae | "This Prime Glyph turns Tranquility back into a Channeled Spell with a small cooldown and greatly increased threat generation." |
| 11:26.01 | ZorbaBeta | unless it was literally 100k tps or more, it'd be kind of irrelevant |
| 11:26.04 | Thrae | That might be too much for a Prime Glyph, but there are Glyphs that totally change the situations you use an ability in. |
| 11:26.07 | ZorbaBeta | and on bosses even that would be irrelevant |
| 11:26.35 | ZorbaBeta | hell it'd be an incredible threat tool if it was |
| 11:27.10 | Thrae | Haha I remember in Vanilla and BC using Tranq as a last-ditch AoE Pull + Heal in Feral. |
| 11:27.10 | ZorbaBeta | have the healer pop tranquility at the beginning of the fight, taunt at the end, autoattack, go grab a snack because nobody's pulling threat off you for the next five minutes |
| 11:27.49 | Thrae | Of course this was when Feral AoE tanking sucked, so it helped when rarely needed. |
| 11:28.08 | jnwhiteh | wg does such a pithy amount of healing right now |
| 11:28.08 | jnwhiteh | it feels out of place =( |
| 11:28.08 | jnwhiteh | when my efforvesence does more healing than wild growth, it feels weird. |
| 11:28.18 | Thrae | Now I'm using Bear instead of Cat just because of how good Mangle spam is. |
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| 11:29.30 | Thrae | My slightly higher level friends are telling me how Bear Tanks often pull 50-60% of the total group DPS without being horribly overgeared (hard to be at ~6 days in) |
| 11:30.49 | Thrae | Now I took a break from playing lots of WoW to talk about WoW =/ |
| 11:31.02 | Thrae | That's just...wow. |
| 11:31.02 | ZorbaBeta | as prot warrior I've been roughly equal with the DPS on the damage meters. If I were playing with crummy players I have no doubt I'd be at 50% or so. |
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| 11:31.28 | sylvanaar_work | wow |
| 11:31.31 | ZorbaBeta | (and probably dead, considering how undergeared we were when we hit heroics) |
| 11:32.35 | Thrae | Anyone who played Alliance wants to do Heroic Deadmines. |
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| 11:33.15 | Thrae | Hell, that's better than Heroic Shadowfang Keep. In my horde days I could barely get a group for that and it wasn't nearly as fun as Deadmines. |
| 11:34.39 | olafski | a guildie told me all of the new factions have dailies available.. anyone have a list of those? I can't really find em on wowhead |
| 11:35.07 | zenzio | I only noticed Tharazane dailies yet, but I didn't actually go looking |
| 11:35.12 | zenzio | *Therazane |
| 11:35.32 | Thrae | Yeah all I know so far is that Thera has 5, and they're non-faction specific |
| 11:36.04 | olafski | wildhammer has about 5 too |
| 11:36.09 | olafski | and ramkahen I've found one so far |
| 11:36.30 | Thrae | I'm hoping to open up Thera soon for this weapon -- http://www.wowhead.com/item=61404, which beats out my 251 Epic ICC weapon well |
| 11:36.32 | olafski | was kinda hoping to do em for guardians of hyjal too, and earthen ring since I did vashj'ir before they patched the reputation gain there |
| 11:37.13 | olafski | therazane has a weapon? oO |
| 11:37.15 | Thrae | From my Wowhead scanning it appears to be the best Druid Tanking/DPS weapon from questing at that pre-85 level. |
| 11:37.20 | olafski | ah from a quest |
| 11:37.30 | Thrae | Well there's also new quartermasters too |
| 11:37.32 | olafski | I've not been to deepholm yet |
| 11:37.50 | olafski | yeah but therazane quartermaster only has shoulder enchants and a few rings |
| 11:38.07 | Thrae | Depends on what you play :) |
| 11:38.47 | Thrae | Honestly by the time I got into Heroic Dungeons in LK, I didn't have any use for but one item from all the Rep. Quartermasters (not including Ashen Verdict of course) |
| 11:39.14 | Thrae | Although they did help me gear up my secondary, lesser-geared spec |
| 11:39.17 | sylvanaar_work | Shirik: can you move http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18811-CareMeter.html to chat addons? |
| 11:42.13 | Thrae | People and their version numbers |
| 11:42.38 | Thrae | If it's greater than 1, stick a b on it at least =/ |
| 11:43.35 | sylvanaar_work | who |
| 11:43.58 | Thrae | Oh just multiple people. Not you. |
| 11:44.30 | sylvanaar_work | i thought you meant me since i was asking Shirik to move my beta addon out of beta addons |
| 11:47.08 | olafski | thrae: it doesn't depend, according to atlasloot that's all the therazane quartermaster sells |
| 11:49.27 | olafski | I'll try going to deepholm later though to see what they got :) |
| 11:49.32 | olafski | shoulder enchants are something I'll want anyway I guess |
| 11:52.12 | Thrae | Primer , jnwhiteh : I totally forgot to add in Mastery to Nourish vs HT vs Regrowth. I doubt Regrowth gets the "Symbiosis" bonus unless there's a different HoT on there already. So with Nourish that's yet another +10% at least, with +1.25% per "point" in Mastery. With Gift of Nature also giving +25% and Empowered (talent) giving +10% that's at least a +75% bonus + Additional Mastery if the target has a HoT. Healing Touch o |
| 11:52.18 | Thrae | nly gets +35%, or +50% (like all others) in ToL. |
| 11:52.56 | Thrae | olafski: Sorry. I meant depending on what you play, their spec, etc. the items the Thera QM offers are great, decent, or mostly worthless ;) |
| 11:54.58 | olafski | oh :) |
| 11:55.03 | olafski | well I think all specs will want the shoulders |
| 11:55.17 | Thrae | Hmm I believe the ratio at 85 is 179.28 per one point in Mastery? |
| 11:55.18 | Torhal | olafski: first version |
| 11:55.19 | olafski | and the 4 rings also seem to cover most specs, though I guess once you reach revered some people might have better already |
| 11:57.40 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, sounds believable. I've got 682/3.8 so divide from there if you feel necessary to confirm |
| 11:57.47 | Thrae | Blizzard should probably rework the Mastery tooltip a bit. I believe all Masteries are actually a base percentage + level-influenced-rating-converted-into-additional-percentage like all the other ratings out there. They said they wanted to make WoW less "mathy" by eliminating some of these ratings, but honestly its the damn ratings in the first place which can be confusing. |
| 11:57.53 | ZorbaBeta | olafski, scribes have better shoulder enchants, but everyone else will want them |
| 11:58.23 | Thrae | The Mastery tooltips currently say, "per one point of Mastery" where "point" is undefined. |
| 11:59.05 | zenzio | I'm sure ratings are a good thing for gameplay, but I stopped trying to understand them long ago; could never remember the appropriate numbers |
| 11:59.18 | ZorbaBeta | zenzio, I'm quite happy that now it's pretty much unnecessary |
| 11:59.21 | zenzio | if it's got higher rating than what I have, cool, if not, well I guess not |
| 11:59.33 | Thrae | I'm not saying they should be eliminated, just explained better. |
| 11:59.56 | zenzio | Thrae: sorry, didn't mean to imply you were |
| 12:00.20 | Thrae | Right now if you're totally new to WoW and don't have someone else tell you, you basically have to solve for "X" where "X" is "one point of mastery" to figure out what "one point" represents :D |
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| 12:01.28 | Thrae | zenzio: Yeah I was just clarifying JIC |
| 12:02.32 | airtonix | Thrae, no |
| 12:04.01 | Thrae | airtonix: Are you going to expand on that? |
| 12:04.08 | airtonix | Thrae, yes |
| 12:07.36 | airtonix | leave it as it is |
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| 12:14.19 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 12:18.58 | Thrae | "When using this trinket I had noticed that it was absorbing more than the stated (4060) damage. I had assumed that it was scaling with SP, but someone with the epic version of the trinket has tested it and found that it absorbed a 500k damage Whale Shark hit." A 500,000 bubble called "Egg Shield", nice |
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| 12:20.07 | zenzio | Thrae: do want |
| 12:20.53 | Thrae | zenzio: http://www.wowhead.com/item=56136#comments:id=1228040 |
| 12:21.22 | Thrae | And DKs who obviously need mana can roll need on it too...since it's also a bubble, right? |
| 12:23.30 | zenzio | I'm sure it's not exactly super rare, but I was very happy when I got my http://www.wowhead.com/item=67282 yesterday |
| 12:23.54 | Thrae | "QA: Oh hey here, remember that item we said was bugged? Devs: Which? QA: The caster item that non-mana-using tanks can roll on but not some healers, and which can sometimes absorb what's suppose to be a lethal attack of 500k+? Devs: Again, which one?" |
| 12:24.11 | Torhal | hah |
| 12:24.37 | foxlit | Don't drunk and fly :/ |
| 12:24.38 | Thrae | It's probably pretty rare :) |
| 12:24.45 | foxlit | s/u/i/ |
| 12:24.55 | airtonix | don't eat flies and drunk |
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| 12:35.02 | olafski | zorbabeta: ah yes, true, scribes have better enchants :) |
| 12:35.55 | zenzio | http://squee.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/12/11/cute-baby-animals-drunk-college-girls/ |
| 12:37.10 | mitch0 | isn't mp5 supposed to be removed? I got a ring with some mp5 on it |
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| 12:37.48 | Torhal | mitch0: Sue. |
| 12:38.03 | mitch0 | already did |
| 12:38.10 | Torhal | Sweet |
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| 14:06.16 | Kraftman | how do work out what spell the cursor is holding in order to place it onto my button? |
| 14:06.47 | Kraftman | the opposite of PickupSpell ? |
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| 14:17.05 | Kraps | have research this dr strange guy now |
| 14:17.35 | DJJeff | C:\Program Files (x86)\PlayerScoreClient\PlayerScore.exe |
| 14:17.53 | DJJeff | when you launch wow with this client ^^^^ it opens up a command prompt why? |
| 14:18.03 | DJJeff | opens quickly then closes |
| 14:18.11 | DJJeff | kinda susspicious |
| 14:20.12 | zenzio | most exes are suspicious |
| 14:22.42 | cbreak | hmm... rating buster seems to be buggy at the moment :/ |
| 14:24.27 | mikma | lol lol playerscoreclient lol lol |
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| 14:25.41 | cbreak | what the hell is that playerscore client? |
| 14:25.47 | cbreak | some kind of bot? |
| 14:25.52 | cbreak | or just a key logger? |
| 14:26.41 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 14:27.13 | Kalroth | http://www.tentonhammer.com/playerscore/ |
| 14:28.10 | Kraps | cbreak: both! |
| 14:29.02 | airtonix | DJJeff, your mum is suspicious |
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| 14:33.45 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, the heat in my building is officially broken, it's not just my hallway this time! They've got a team working on it and everything. |
| 14:34.41 | zenzio | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:34.46 | zenzio | I'll keep you warm! |
| 14:34.54 | Lopeppeppy | Awww! |
| 14:35.00 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles zenzio. |
| 14:35.00 | airtonix | nomnomnom |
| 14:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom is for pineapples. |
| 14:35.21 | airtonix | pineapples make me taste good |
| 14:35.30 | Lopeppeppy | No, I disagree. |
| 14:35.36 | airtonix | ohoho hoho |
| 14:35.59 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer my victims milk-fed and fat. |
| 14:36.18 | airtonix | i'm not a victim :( |
| 14:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yet. |
| 14:36.26 | airtonix | cries in his corner |
| 14:36.36 | airtonix | PINEAPPLES! |
| 14:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | how else would you describe those a dinosaur noms? |
| 14:41.35 | Kraps | what are you guys doing with your uncut wrath gems? |
| 14:42.31 | cbreak | sell |
| 14:44.49 | Kraps | same with eternals i guess? |
| 14:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | AH is your friend, for crafting materials you don't personally need to level up with. |
| 14:50.34 | Kraps | yeah still need those for when i get around to leveling alchemy |
| 14:53.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bank alt. |
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| 14:56.02 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.04 | Kraps | ack |
| 14:56.40 | Xinhuan | won't change anything lol |
| 14:56.54 | Xinhuan | just means it will take 2 hours instead 30 min to cap the daily guild exp |
| 14:56.58 | ZorbaBeta | anyone know if prot paladins have a low-cooldown interrupt now? |
| 14:57.24 | zenzio | paladins are int 3-ing constantly now |
| 14:57.34 | smcn | just ret |
| 14:57.52 | smcn | unless you count grand crusader procs :P |
| 14:58.35 | Kraps | drops in the early cata dungeons were buffed |
| 14:58.57 | Kraps | "int 3-ing"? |
| 14:59.20 | zenzio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INT_(x86_instruction)#INT_3 |
| 14:59.27 | zenzio | sorry, I'm too nerdy for my own good |
| 14:59.53 | smcn | tbh i thought it was some dumb arena term :P |
| 15:00.15 | smcn | like all those cleave portmanteaus |
| 15:00.46 | smcn | i guess not so much portmanteau as putting a random word in front of "cleave" |
| 15:01.17 | zenzio | they should just stick to "cleavage" |
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| 15:01.32 | Lopeppeppy | That's my area of mastery, zenzio, hands off. *weg* |
| 15:01.53 | zenzio | aww :( |
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| 15:03.05 | Kraps | heh |
| 15:04.14 | Jamash | Is there any kind of arena team that *isn't* a cleave team? As far as I can tell, "cleave" means "a team that does damage" |
| 15:05.00 | Jamash | which I guess would contrast with a team of two resto druids |
| 15:05.19 | Jamash | except they'd end up calling that "boredomcleave" |
| 15:05.38 | ZorbaBeta | this is my new restodruid/holypaladin/protwarrior team |
| 15:05.41 | ZorbaBeta | we never lose |
| 15:05.49 | Kraps | nor win |
| 15:05.52 | Jamash | I'm rambling. How are you guys? |
| 15:06.08 | ZorbaBeta | kraps, we just have to wait for the opposition to disconnect. that's why we have very good internet connections |
| 15:06.13 | Kraps | lol |
| 15:06.23 | Jamash | there were some arena matches at blizzcon that reminded me of that |
| 15:06.45 | Jamash | nobody going below half health or mana for 20 minutes |
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| 15:07.48 | ZorbaBeta | back in BC I watched a resto druid and prot pally duel while waiting for another dungeon member |
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| 15:08.00 | ZorbaBeta | took 'em 15 minutes to notice that they were both still at full mana and full health |
| 15:08.12 | Jamash | yup |
| 15:08.39 | Jamash | I think they should put a debuff on arenas that decreases everyone's maximum health and mana by 5% every minute |
| 15:08.45 | ZorbaBeta | I'm curious if that will be as much of an issue in 4.0.x though |
| 15:09.39 | Jamash | yeah, healers running oom seems more of a credible outcome now |
| 15:10.12 | Jamash | I need more volatile fire |
| 15:11.31 | Jamash | unfortunately, so does everyone else |
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| 15:21.03 | smcn | volatile earth is the worst |
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| 15:32.30 | greppy | smcn: ... really? I have more VE than anything else. |
| 15:32.45 | Lopeppeppy | You will be rich at the AH sir, rich. |
| 15:32.57 | Kraps | you sicken me woman http://www.wowhead.com/npc=39930 |
| 15:33.44 | smcn | greppy: are you a miner? if not, disclose your secrets sir! :P the only place i can farm as a non-miner is elementals in twilight highlands with ~12% drop rate :/ |
| 15:34.12 | greppy | ah, yes, miner, on two chars. |
| 15:34.17 | greppy | and the wife is a miner on two as well :) |
| 15:34.39 | greppy | I probably got my dk half of 83 from mines in deepholm. |
| 15:34.55 | greppy | 1300+ elementium |
| 15:35.36 | nevcairiel | smcn: judging from prices at the AH, volatile air is the worst |
| 15:35.48 | smcn | ah yes |
| 15:36.15 | Kraps | no offense to other women that like animals |
| 15:36.48 | smcn | i suppose i should have specified, as someone who had to level 450-502 BS without mining volatile earth was the worst :P and i'll still need more for hardened elementium which is required by almost every epic :( |
| 15:37.03 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with her Kraps? let the poor dryad be |
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| 15:40.28 | Ackis | anyone start heroics yet? |
| 15:40.59 | nevcairiel | dungeons? sure, nearly fully equipped |
| 15:41.12 | Clamgormoraunt | nope, most groups complain and bail in reg let alone getting gear to even get to heroics |
| 15:41.16 | Ackis | how hard are they |
| 15:41.26 | Ackis | I'm a bit afraid after having issues healing normals |
| 15:41.36 | Ackis | (aka blow my entire mana pool on a pull) |
| 15:45.03 | Kraftman | how do i convert spell id to spell name? |
| 15:45.12 | Nobgul | via a table |
| 15:45.22 | Nobgul | ot |
| 15:45.25 | Nobgul | or |
| 15:45.43 | Kraftman | there's no function? |
| 15:45.52 | Ackis | you could tooltip parse I think |
| 15:46.02 | Nobgul | i was just gonna say that lol |
| 15:46.18 | Nobgul | Otherwise umm. getspellinfo |
| 15:46.28 | Nobgul | !api GetSpellINfo |
| 15:46.28 | lua_bot | GetSpellInfo: Returns information about a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellInfo) |
| 15:46.36 | Kraftman | ahh ty :) |
| 15:46.40 | Kraftman | perfect |
| 15:46.51 | Nobgul | Hrmm mabey not though worth a try |
| 15:47.13 | Ackis | get spell info returns the spell link doesn't it? |
| 15:47.37 | Nobgul | I thought it returned info based on name or spell id. But not real sure |
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| 15:48.11 | Ackis | it returns multiple things iirc |
| 15:50.01 | Ackis | what's better: 3% haste or 6% to healing? |
| 15:50.08 | Ackis | aka darkness vs twin disciplines? |
| 15:50.11 | Napoleone | depends what you need |
| 15:50.34 | Ackis | I need a hero |
| 15:50.36 | Nobgul | what class? |
| 15:51.20 | Ackis | priest |
| 15:51.27 | Nobgul | Disc or holy? |
| 15:51.39 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/talent#b0hZfhrrRorkcdohb:oVZ0 vs http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bchZfhrrRorkcdo0b:oVZ0 |
| 15:51.48 | Ackis | holy |
| 15:52.03 | Nobgul | Holy is soooo powerful atm |
| 15:52.36 | Nobgul | thats not loading for me |
| 15:52.42 | Nobgul | But i would say the healing. |
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| 15:53.12 | Nobgul | Sup fisker |
| 15:53.16 | Nobgul | oops i mean foxlit |
| 15:53.18 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 15:53.27 | foxlit | ~whalenuke Nobgul |
| 15:53.28 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Nobgul with his mind powers. |
| 15:54.46 | foxlit | aiii :( |
| 15:54.55 | foxlit | Oh hey, it came back |
| 15:55.04 | foxlit | Are they doing rolling restarts? |
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| 15:56.41 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 15:56.50 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 8h 39m 9s ago, saying: 'so you'd do 1 to 1/5 and 0 to 1/2 or something'. |
| 15:59.11 | Clamgormoraunt | getting this error (just started in ui making) i've read topics on this error but still confused, is there a simple fix or is it maybe there is no data stored in the drop down option i'm choosing?attempt to index global 'this' (a nil value)Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:636: in function `UIDropDownMenuButton_OnClick'ostring>:"*onClick":1: in function <[string "*onClick"]:1> |
| 16:00.03 | Nobgul | are you reusing blizz code? |
| 16:00.26 | Clamgormoraunt | honestly it's borrowed code from another addon no longer in use |
| 16:00.48 | Nobgul | well use pastebin and paste your code we can take a look at it and see if we see any errors. |
| 16:00.57 | Nobgul | althouhg |
| 16:01.00 | Nobgul | althouhg* |
| 16:01.09 | Nobgul | onClick seems wrong |
| 16:01.17 | Clamgormoraunt | pastebin? never heard of it. |
| 16:01.20 | Nobgul | almost everything is caps ONCLICK |
| 16:01.30 | Nobgul | paste.isoverninethousand.info |
| 16:01.33 | Nobgul | ^^ |
| 16:01.35 | Clamgormoraunt | i am green as green can be when it comes to this |
| 16:01.45 | Nobgul | !api ONCLICk |
| 16:01.45 | lua_bot | GetMouseButtonClicked: Returns which mouse button triggered the current script (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMouseButtonClicked) |
| 16:02.38 | Nobgul | Ackis, I would go into the improved shield talent somehow. |
| 16:02.45 | Nobgul | Shields still hold alot of dmg |
| 16:02.46 | Aezay | Guild Achievements: Do anyone know how to request your client to update these, when I use the achievement API, they dont update. I have to use the default achievement browser and click an achievement to force them into updating |
| 16:03.12 | Nobgul | Aezay, There is a function for it. But its not documentd 1 sec ill get it for you |
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| 16:05.27 | haste | Ackis: what's better, improved reaction time or more healing? |
| 16:06.06 | Nobgul | I can't find the function Aezay, but there is one. I saw it in a diff list on wowace. |
| 16:06.26 | Aezay | Nobgul, awesome thanks, tried searching through the Blizzard_AchievementUI, but its like 6000 lines >_< |
| 16:06.39 | Aezay | Where do you think I could search for this function? |
| 16:06.53 | Nobgul | Aezay, 1 sec ill look at the ui for the achiv |
| 16:08.18 | Nobgul | function AchievementFrameCategories_OnShow (self) |
| 16:08.18 | Nobgul | AchievementFrameCategories_Update(); |
| 16:08.18 | Nobgul | end |
| 16:09.17 | Nobgul | ah got it |
| 16:09.18 | Nobgul | AchievementFrameAchievements_ForceUpdate(); |
| 16:09.25 | Industrial | Under level 100? http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fe58f5a1aba7dbf74918849f17a0c8c0.bmp |
| 16:09.41 | Nobgul | AchievementFrameAchievements_Update(); |
| 16:09.52 | Nobgul | lots of optsions there Aezay, all seem like they may work |
| 16:10.01 | Nobgul | try running them with /run or script |
| 16:10.17 | Nobgul | Industrial, lul |
| 16:10.31 | Aezay | Nobgul, but they are not API functions, just functions in the achievement UI |
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| 16:10.55 | Nobgul | You should still be ab le to call them |
| 16:12.27 | Industrial | did wowhead just break? |
| 16:12.42 | Lopeppeppy | did you break wowhead? |
| 16:12.52 | Nobgul | I did before yea sorry |
| 16:13.01 | Nobgul | this is the 3rd time in 2 months i have done it =( |
| 16:13.13 | Gagorian | wowhead should break you. |
| 16:13.29 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 16:13.43 | Nobgul | If anything is going to break me it will be Carbonite |
| 16:13.48 | Aezay | Nobgul, thanks for taking a look |
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| 16:14.08 | Nobgul | Aezay, No worries. You should be able to call most of those |
| 16:14.35 | Aezay | Nobgul, still want to track down that API function which makes it all happen though |
| 16:15.00 | Jamash | so I bought some heirlooms for my rogue, pre-4.0 |
| 16:15.09 | Jamash | and then when I rolled my goblin rogue I forgot to send them to him |
| 16:15.12 | Nobgul | and they dont scale past 80 |
| 16:15.16 | Nobgul | oh lol |
| 16:15.51 | Jamash | so I'm looking for stuff to get rid of in my priest's bank and I'm like WTF WHERE DID THESE COME FROM oh I'm an idiot |
| 16:17.28 | Nobgul | lol |
| 16:17.46 | Jamash | see, I put the rest of the stuff for that character in an alt guild bank, but I didn't put those there since they're accountbound, then I forgot about them |
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| 16:19.15 | Nobgul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw |
| 16:19.16 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 16:19.38 | Jamash | do wrath faction tabards work in cata dungeons? |
| 16:20.11 | Nobgul | dunno but not getting justice from the old raids makes me cry |
| 16:20.19 | Jamash | also, is the guy in that video earning royalties? |
| 16:21.23 | Jamash | Nobgul: Once you're 81, or even if you're 80? |
| 16:22.18 | Clamgormoraunt | ok think i figured out how to post that code right, and its the whole Lua file (in game tells me errors on line 385 http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/a4c770ab |
| 16:23.17 | Napoleone | they removed JP from WOTLK dungeons? |
| 16:23.19 | Nobgul | Jamash, after 80 |
| 16:23.33 | Nobgul | After 82 you cant queue for woltk heroics anymore |
| 16:23.35 | zenzelezz | Clamgormoraunt: what's the error saying? |
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| 16:23.46 | Gagorian | Why are you using this |
| 16:23.49 | Jamash | Nobgul: well, duh, you're not going to get jp for killing illidan either |
| 16:24.05 | Nobgul | and we did 12 /12 icc heroic last night. only got jp from the 2 bosses witht he chests to loot. |
| 16:24.17 | Nobgul | also os3d zerg only jp from the bag. |
| 16:24.39 | Jamash | you should probably report getting jp from the chests/bag, sounds like a bug :p |
| 16:24.44 | Nobgul | I did |
| 16:25.08 | Clamgormoraunt | 1x Crafters-0.1\Crafters.lua:385: attempt to index global 'this' (a nil value)Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:636: in function `UIDropDownMenuButton_OnClick'Onstring>:"*OnClick":1: in function <[string "*OnClick"]:1>Localsself = DropDownList1Button3 { 0 = <userdata> func = <function> @ Crafters\Crafters.lua:383: value = 7411}checked = nilplaySound = truefunc = <function> @ Crafters\Crafters.lua:383: |
| 16:25.31 | Jamash | pastey error logs pls |
| 16:25.33 | zenzelezz | well, there's your problem then. You shouldn't be using "this" anymore |
| 16:25.50 | Gagorian | zenzelezz: I said that 2 minutes ago, maybe I should've used quotes :) |
| 16:26.20 | zenzelezz | Gagorian: no, I saw it, but I'm guessing he didn't - sorry if you thought I was stealing your answer :) |
| 16:27.06 | Clamgormoraunt | i did pastey and i kinda knew about "this" but i've read so many sites on it and dont understand that part fully (stated earlier new to this, still learning) is there a deff place that is easier for me to figure out the"this" part? |
| 16:27.59 | zenzelezz | "this" in WoW is a concept that was changed, and should no longer be used |
| 16:28.06 | zenzelezz | in many cases you use "self" instead |
| 16:28.17 | Cide | also known as DEPRECATED MOTHERFUCKER |
| 16:29.04 | Kraps | Ackis: are you finding holy good? |
| 16:30.38 | cog|away | i think this quest was written by an atheist/skeptic: http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:..._It_Will_Come |
| 16:31.24 | cogwheel | The mob you have to fight is Ick'thys the Unfathomable (Ichthys is the name of the "jesus fish") |
| 16:31.38 | cogwheel | One of the quest rewards is Chestguard of Cognitive Dissonance |
| 16:32.47 | Jamash | yesterday, all my globals seemed here to stay / now it looks as though they're depreca / ted, I believe in yesterday |
| 16:33.18 | Nobgul | lol |
| 16:33.27 | Nobgul | did all your toubles seem so far away? |
| 16:33.31 | Jamash | cogwheel: awesome |
| 16:33.40 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: it could be, but many atheists had no idea what "Ichthys" was) |
| 16:33.47 | Jamash | Nobgul: you misspelled tuples, but yes |
| 16:33.59 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: subtlety ftw imo ;) |
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| 16:34.23 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: what I meant was it *could* be coincidence; though I doubt it :) |
| 16:34.30 | cogwheel | *nod* |
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| 16:35.06 | Nobgul|Sleep | Jamash, Still lack of sleep is kiloing me |
| 16:35.12 | Nobgul|Sleep | as well as the dc's on my net |
| 16:35.18 | zenzelezz | kiloing? |
| 16:35.24 | Jamash | there's a thousand of him now |
| 16:35.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
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| 16:35.53 | Jamash | casts "Sleep" on Nobgul. |
| 16:35.57 | Nobgul | lol |
| 16:36.14 | Nobgul | I wish. I hope that after this meeting in a hour I can sleep for a few hours |
| 16:36.51 | Jamash | I sold some kaja'cola for 10g *each* |
| 16:37.43 | Jamash | that's way better than my old method of earning cash on lowbies (selling copper) |
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| 16:38.07 | Nobgul | Jamash, I have made a killing with herbs |
| 16:38.11 | Nobgul | And still am. |
| 16:38.19 | Jamash | which herbs? |
| 16:38.27 | Nobgul | Whiptail |
| 16:38.36 | Nobgul | Selling for 300g a stack on my realm |
| 16:38.48 | Nobgul | the viotile life is going for 1800g for a 100 stack |
| 16:38.58 | Industrial | I can't figure out what part of the blizzard lua code is making the chatframe bump against the edges of the screen... so i can kill it.. |
| 16:39.05 | Jamash | yeah but I'm talking about level 1-10 chars |
| 16:39.11 | Nobgul | oh. |
| 16:39.11 | Elkano | reminds me that it's X-mas soon... should restock on small eggs and milk ;) |
| 16:39.26 | Jamash | making a gazillion gold selling any gathered cata material is trivial |
| 16:39.28 | Nobgul | the eggs you get from the dragonhawks? |
| 16:39.49 | Nobgul | I think i farmed them for a festival a year ago and made good gold |
| 16:39.50 | Jamash | I used to go to westfall on my horde chars to farm them before BC |
| 16:40.02 | Industrial | [Small Egg] |
| 16:40.07 | Kraps | disc priests need a buff. whos with me? |
| 16:40.15 | Jamash | Kraps: Always |
| 16:40.20 | Nobgul | disagree |
| 16:40.25 | Nobgul | Disc and holy are fine. |
| 16:40.27 | Kraps | ty Jamash |
| 16:40.33 | Nobgul | Resto druid needs something. |
| 16:40.34 | Kraps | go away Nobgul |
| 16:40.40 | Nobgul | Kraps, Never |
| 16:40.40 | Elkano | retri palas do... mine does hardly any damage in my tank gear :( |
| 16:40.43 | Kraps | holy is fine |
| 16:41.01 | Nobgul | Elkano, Prot pallies seems to be doing good. |
| 16:41.04 | Jamash | Kraps: I don't even know why you think they need a buff, but my priest is disc 4 lyfe |
| 16:41.30 | Elkano | Nobgul, I know but people complain when you DD as prot :/ |
| 16:41.46 | Nobgul | Yea, tell them to suck a [Small Egg] |
| 16:41.48 | Nobgul | =P |
| 16:42.30 | Jamash | DD? |
| 16:42.30 | Elkano | maybe it's just the retri 'rota' that's strange to me... it just procs... |
| 16:42.33 | Kraps | Jamash: it feels like i'm playing a survival mode game where i'm holding out until i inevitably loos |
| 16:42.34 | Nobgul | As a healer i could care less what spec you are as long as: 1.) you stay our of shit 2.) cc 3.) Don't pull agro. |
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| 16:42.41 | Kraps | lode* |
| 16:42.42 | Nobgul | lol Kraps. |
| 16:42.45 | Kraps | lose** |
| 16:42.50 | Nobgul | loose =P |
| 16:42.57 | Kraps | no :p |
| 16:42.59 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 16:43.00 | Jamash | lewz |
| 16:43.21 | Nobgul | Kraps, Between the 2 of us we may get a complete sentance out |
| 16:43.30 | Nobgul | ugh. typos |
| 16:43.34 | Kraps | sentence* |
| 16:43.36 | Kraps | :p |
| 16:43.49 | Jamash | healer cc is tricky |
| 16:44.01 | Nobgul | You mean a healer ccing? |
| 16:44.12 | Kraps | yeah because HEALERS DONT HAVE ANY |
| 16:44.14 | Nobgul | For a druid its rough. But I do it anyway |
| 16:44.17 | Nobgul | Umm |
| 16:44.19 | Jamash | yes, it's usually situational, breaks easily, and draws aggro to the healer |
| 16:44.46 | Kraps | hey maybe i should MC stuff |
| 16:44.49 | Nobgul | Kraps, thats not true. but as Jamash just said my cyclone is 6 seconds 4 seconds 2 seconds then diminishing returns rears its ugly head. |
| 16:45.02 | Jamash | you can entangle indoors now I hear |
| 16:45.06 | nevcairiel | rough? i constantly keep one of the puppys asleep during the beauty encounter, no biggy |
| 16:45.08 | smcn | for awhile |
| 16:45.08 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn! |
| 16:45.13 | Nobgul | Jamash, thats what i have been doing |
| 16:45.13 | Lopeppeppy | glomps Cairenn, wheeee! |
| 16:45.19 | Cairenn | smoogles Lopeppeppy |
| 16:45.21 | Jamash | and hibernate is pretty good |
| 16:45.22 | Nobgul | starting the pull with root's |
| 16:45.25 | Kraps | shakle undead woopdeefuckingdoo |
| 16:45.27 | Elkano | retri cc is fun when someone breaks it and then blames you for not re-cc-ing... |
| 16:45.29 | Nobgul | Jamash, only beasts though |
| 16:45.34 | Jamash | and dragons |
| 16:45.36 | Clamgormoraunt | @zenzelezz thank you for giving me the answer that worked and fixed it. just replaced all the "this" with "self" and it fixed the whole thing. <still have lots of learning to do on my end.> |
| 16:45.37 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: I has a sad :( |
| 16:45.38 | Nobgul | dragonkin |
| 16:45.39 | Nobgul | yer |
| 16:45.47 | Nobgul | hugs Cairenn |
| 16:45.55 | Cairenn | hugs Nobgul |
| 16:45.56 | Jamash | huggles Cairenn |
| 16:46.02 | Cairenn | hugs Jamash |
| 16:46.09 | Jamash | HUG PARTY |
| 16:46.18 | Nobgul | They gave a trinket as a quest reward. It is evil. |
| 16:46.33 | Nobgul | The one that has the damage that jumps. I swear it will always jump to the cc'ed mob |
| 16:46.44 | Jamash | that's bad |
| 16:46.53 | Elkano | Cairenn, I don't know why but I had to think of you when I saw this: http://www.coffeeandcigarettes.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/thefuture1.jpg |
| 16:47.00 | Jamash | I try to avoid talents and procs that jump unpredictably |
| 16:47.10 | Cairenn | Elkano: :) |
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| 16:48.16 | Jamash | Elkano: that made me happy and sad at the same time |
| 16:48.22 | Nobgul | Jamash, Its hard to inspect each ranged dps. So i got the who broke addon |
| 16:48.35 | Kraps | hey i just found that i have cure disease |
| 16:48.37 | Jamash | Nobgul: nice |
| 16:48.42 | Nobgul | http://www.wowhead.com/item=63839 |
| 16:48.44 | Jamash | Kraps: lol? |
| 16:48.46 | Nobgul | Is the item. |
| 16:48.52 | Nobgul | Kraps, >_< |
| 16:48.56 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: why sad? |
| 16:48.59 | Nobgul | Sad panda lol |
| 16:49.10 | zenzelezz | if it's Fisker, we can get rid of him |
| 16:49.13 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: had to put my Siren kitty down on Saturday :( |
| 16:49.30 | zenzelezz | aww, just didn't get any better? |
| 16:49.40 | Cairenn | We weren't able to save her and she was just suffering |
| 16:49.43 | Jamash | poor kitty :( |
| 16:49.51 | Nobgul | =( |
| 16:50.41 | Cairenn | I miss my sweetie girl kitty :( |
| 16:51.02 | durcyn | Cairenn: you can have mine, it ate another network cable yesterday |
| 16:51.16 | Nobgul | lol |
| 16:51.20 | Elkano | that's sad, yeah :( a friend of mine was scheduled to have his kitten put down last week, too... luckily they went for a 2nd opinion and the cat seems to be doing better now... |
| 16:51.24 | Jamash | the whole cable? |
| 16:51.36 | Cairenn | durcyn: there will come the day when you'll wish they were still around to chew cables |
| 16:51.38 | Jamash | or just chewed through it? |
| 16:52.02 | Nobgul | there is a pick i wanna show durcyn, but i cant find it |
| 16:53.03 | durcyn | Jamash: yes, a 6lb kitten swallowed an entire cable with more mass than itself. the good news is, if i plug her tail into the switch, i get connectivity |
| 16:53.13 | Jamash | durcyn: awesome |
| 16:53.24 | zenzelezz | my cats never chewed cables, but they clawed up chair/table legs, and various other areas in the house |
| 16:53.38 | Jamash | my grandmother had a cat that would attack my ankles |
| 16:54.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry to hear that, Cairenn. *big hugs* |
| 16:54.15 | Cairenn | thanks Lopeppeppy *hug* |
| 16:54.45 | Cairenn | It is the final act of love, but it's so damn hard to do |
| 16:54.50 | Nobgul | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8NLTTuJ2pOI/Sc5RrcDxCvI/AAAAAAAAB7g/YKnlkYzgxBc/s1600-h/cat-force_field.jpg |
| 16:54.52 | Nobgul | LOL |
| 16:55.07 | Cairenn | heh, that's cute Nobgul |
| 16:55.21 | Nobgul | lolcats always make me laugh lol |
| 16:55.48 | Nobgul | http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/interweb.jpg |
| 16:55.49 | krka_ | lolcats always make you laugh laughing out loud? |
| 16:55.51 | Nobgul | haha |
| 16:55.53 | Elkano | http://i.imgur.com/LkJei.jpg |
| 16:55.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah it is. I did it a few times growing up, haven't had the choice yet as an adult. |
| 16:55.59 | Nobgul | Yer my boss thinks im crazy most the time |
| 16:56.39 | durcyn | "lol" is definitely in the running for worst abbreviation of all time |
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| 16:59.02 | Nobgul | http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/cod-cat.jpg |
| 16:59.58 | Jamash | durcyn: lol, it totally is, lol, I mean, like, so overused, lol :) |
| 17:00.18 | Nobgul | lul |
| 17:01.37 | Jamash | hmm, put Safety Catch Removal Kit on my new green xbow or wait till I get a blue? |
| 17:02.05 | Aezay | Nobgul, I think I finally found out which function does it, it's SetFocusedAchievement(entry.id); |
| 17:02.26 | Nobgul | umm |
| 17:03.01 | Nobgul | Where did you find that the only refrence i can find it. |
| 17:03.09 | Nobgul | SetFocusedAchievement(button.id); |
| 17:03.35 | Nobgul | Unless i have a old copy of the addon kit |
| 17:04.13 | Aezay | Nobgul, ignore the "entry.id" in my paste, its from some personal code I used to test it :p |
| 17:04.56 | Nobgul | Aezay, There is some functions in the mainmenubar code as well |
| 17:05.08 | Nobgul | in the frame xml |
| 17:05.52 | Aezay | Nobgul, yeah, blizzard UI code is so confusing, sooo many globals and lots of code in both the lua and xml file... |
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| 17:06.50 | Nobgul | Ok so i found my new forum sig |
| 17:06.51 | Nobgul | http://is1.okcupid.com/users/410/202/4102022445444324283/mt156454367.jpg |
| 17:07.35 | Nobgul | makes my sig to big though =( |
| 17:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | That the link goes to OKCupid makes me giggle. |
| 17:08.46 | Nobgul | ehe |
| 17:10.00 | Cide | resizing is hard |
| 17:10.25 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5712893/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-shatters-all-previous-warcraft-records |
| 17:14.01 | krka_ | Cide: that's what she said! |
| 17:14.29 | Jamash | you know, I thought when they said they were going to make a sting/venom split, it would be like the way warlocks have banes/curses, where you have a dps one and then can choose between several non-dps debuffs |
| 17:14.48 | Jamash | except then they deleted scorpid and viper |
| 17:14.50 | Maldivia | :) |
| 17:15.27 | Jamash | and they just nerfed widow into oblivion |
| 17:17.34 | Cide | krka_: thank you |
| 17:17.46 | Cide | krka_: my girlfriend doesn't get the "that's what she said" thing |
| 17:18.09 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/2301645138 |
| 17:18.22 | Jamash | make her watch the office? |
| 17:18.59 | Cide | I guess |
| 17:19.11 | smcn | you should be able to send guild invites to players who are offline through mail |
| 17:19.17 | Adys | i tried watching The Office |
| 17:19.19 | Adys | it's bad |
| 17:19.21 | nevcairiel | that would be kinda fun |
| 17:19.24 | smcn | like an item they right-click that invites them |
| 17:19.28 | nevcairiel | although a new form of spam |
| 17:19.34 | Jamash | Adys: US or british? |
| 17:19.39 | Adys | both. |
| 17:19.46 | krka_ | Cide: well, you always left me satisfied and smiling |
| 17:19.49 | smcn | just make it a special thing on the mail UI that doesn't allow you to invite people already in guilds |
| 17:19.50 | Gnarfoz | <+Cide> krka_: my girlfriend doesn't get the "that's what she said" thing <-- I read "my garfield doesn't get the..." |
| 17:19.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:20.01 | Adys | Gnarfoz: g-g ftw |
| 17:20.04 | nevcairiel | the power of suggestion |
| 17:20.37 | Cide | oh |
| 17:20.45 | Cide | we have two fans of garfield minus garfield in this channel now |
| 17:20.47 | Cide | amazing |
| 17:21.13 | Gnarfoz | your fan counter is off |
| 17:21.21 | Jamash | I'm a fan of garfield minus garfield minus garfield |
| 17:21.22 | Adys | no, he just doesn't know how to count |
| 17:21.25 | smcn | i like g-g :P |
| 17:22.04 | Cide | most boring web comic? |
| 17:22.09 | Jamash | ^ |
| 17:22.54 | Adys | you two are just mad because you identify with Jon in g-g |
| 17:23.11 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/2132364372 |
| 17:23.13 | Adys | sisseh boys. |
| 17:23.31 | Jamash | garfield without garfield's thought balloons = genius |
| 17:23.33 | nevcairiel | i saw that in real garfield |
| 17:23.36 | Jamash | garfield without garfield = stupid |
| 17:24.00 | Cide | I don't identify with trying to be funny by photoshopping out something off a solid background and calling it your own |
| 17:25.07 | Adys | where does he call it his own? |
| 17:25.20 | Jamash | http://home.comcast.net/~tembre/gar5.jpg <--- genius |
| 17:25.24 | Cide | implicitly by releasing it and releasing a book and etc |
| 17:25.28 | Adys | and you do realize the author of g-g isn't Jon right |
| 17:25.48 | Adys | g-g was given jim davis' blessing :P |
| 17:26.06 | Cide | doesn't make it less of an effortless ripoff |
| 17:26.31 | Cide | which is trying to be funny but really fails except for the very occasional semi-mild chuckle |
| 17:26.50 | Jamash | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lawrujvaMJ1qz8z2ro1_500.png <--- stupid |
| 17:26.51 | Cide | I don't really have a problem with it except for the fact that I don't find it funny at all usually though |
| 17:28.23 | Jamash | I only have a problem with it because people keep linking to it |
| 17:28.44 | Cide | right |
| 17:28.56 | Cide | but that wouldn't bother me if it was actually funny! |
| 17:29.41 | Jamash | s/to it/to it as if it were funny, but it isn't/ |
| 17:32.10 | Jamash | let me further amend my statement |
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| 17:32.51 | Jamash | I have a problem with it because the guy who does g-g *should* be doing "garfield without thought balloons" which is actually funny, but is instead doing g-g which is terrible. |
| 17:33.41 | Cide | nou |
| 17:33.56 | Jamash | uno |
| 17:35.48 | Jamash | I'm cookblocked. |
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| 17:38.37 | Cide | did someone occupy your kitchen again? |
| 17:40.50 | Jamash | nope, but all my recipes are gray and I only have 2 cooking awards |
| 17:42.14 | Lopeppeppy | Go looking for new recipes? |
| 17:42.22 | jnwhiteh | there are none in cataclysm, afaik |
| 17:42.26 | jnwhiteh | need more cooking awards |
| 17:42.41 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: I 525'd today just off the +2 skill for the quest |
| 17:42.48 | Jamash | jnwhiteh: nice |
| 17:42.54 | Jamash | I choose... poorly |
| 17:42.58 | Jamash | *chose |
| 17:43.50 | foxlit | They totally went overboard with flight points :( |
| 17:44.05 | jnwhiteh | whats the best zone for farming mobs AOE style? |
| 17:44.18 | sylvanaar_work | it would have been nice if they had given them all to us |
| 17:44.27 | sylvanaar_work | now i feel compelled to go get them all |
| 17:44.36 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: Elewynn Forest? |
| 17:44.41 | jnwhiteh | in cata |
| 17:44.45 | sylvanaar_work | lol boars! |
| 17:44.47 | jnwhiteh | sorry |
| 17:44.49 | jnwhiteh | for using my treasure potion :P |
| 17:45.34 | foxlit | Dunno. I can't imagine wanting to AoE anything in Cataclysm. |
| 17:46.38 | jnwhiteh | low hp mobs |
| 17:46.43 | jnwhiteh | treasure potion works the same on them :P |
| 17:47.30 | sylvanaar_work | as what, moonkin? |
| 17:48.32 | sylvanaar_work | best bet is hyjal since the mobs are low level, try those packs of ogres they spawn really fast |
| 17:48.38 | sylvanaar_work | the ones with the carts |
| 17:49.16 | sylvanaar_work | or the ogre cave |
| 17:49.48 | sylvanaar_work | they spawn quickly as well, and i have aoed them as balance before |
| 17:55.04 | jnwhiteh | k thx |
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| 17:55.35 | sylvanaar_work | http://mako.cc/writing/hill-when_free_software_isnt_better.html |
| 17:56.15 | Jamash | anyone have a list of the new random suffixes on crafted items, with stats? |
| 17:56.48 | sylvanaar_work | hippies |
| 17:58.02 | Jamash | damn straight |
| 17:58.36 | Jamash | Ewige Blumenkraft! |
| 18:01.22 | nicoli_s | aint nothing wrong with hippies sylvanaar |
| 18:02.45 | durcyn | patchouli is wrong. |
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| 18:07.30 | Kaso | the wow installer is basically killing my computer right now >< |
| 18:07.49 | cbreak | Kaso: that's just cataclysm |
| 18:07.54 | Kaso | lol |
| 18:07.56 | cbreak | bliz wanted to make it realistic |
| 18:08.00 | Kaso | somehow its using 300% cpu |
| 18:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 18:08.05 | cbreak | neat |
| 18:08.15 | Kaso | out of 400, but whats it using all that cpu power on?! |
| 18:08.18 | cbreak | on my system, wow barely manages 150% to 200% |
| 18:08.26 | cbreak | out of 800% :/ |
| 18:08.43 | cbreak | probably reading, patching and rewriting files |
| 18:09.09 | Kaso | you'd think that would be io bound, but i guess as its downloading the content it'll be compressed so its prob all going on compression |
| 18:09.42 | Kaso | decompression i should say |
| 18:14.21 | cbreak | or it does some crazy binary diff restore |
| 18:14.32 | Lopeppeppy | explosively decompresses everything! Big ba da boom! |
| 18:14.38 | Kaso | well im installing from scratch |
| 18:14.53 | Kaso | but yeah same principle, trading cpu for bandwidth |
| 18:14.59 | cbreak | you're new to WoW? welcome! :) |
| 18:15.23 | Kaso | oh no, just returning |
| 18:28.16 | Torhal | nicoli_s: Damn long-hairs! |
| 18:29.26 | Kraps | neth is getting unhappy http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/142903/bring-back-portals-in-shattrah-dalaran |
| 18:30.27 | cbreak | The Mage Union strongly agrees with that blue candle |
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| 18:30.45 | Zhinjio | cbreak: hahaha. |
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| 18:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | Poor candle. |
| 18:40.14 | durcyn | dalaran is a shithole, shattrath doubly so. stop going there. |
| 18:42.33 | cbreak | shatrath is the city of portals. Dalaran is the Mage Capital |
| 18:42.57 | Kraps | shatrath is the city of portals? |
| 18:43.02 | cbreak | obviously, mages are smart, so we realized the earning capability of closing portals :) |
| 18:43.09 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard's Equipment Manager is not toggleable anymore, is it? (cvar equipmentManager) |
| 18:44.12 | Kraps | cbreak: we're on to you http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/11/mage-monopoly/ |
| 18:44.25 | Dagmar | Lazy players need to STFU about their portals |
| 18:45.09 | Dagmar | Someone should tell that pune just how long the portal to the Blasted Lands has actuallt been there |
| 18:46.13 | Dagmar | WTB 'remote head asplode protocol device' |
| 18:47.22 | Dagmar | Twice last night I wound up in a pug group of people thinking they should "just DPS through it" for the immobilizing chains in the Blackrock instance |
| 18:47.26 | cbreak | Dagmar: I heard DARPA had those |
| 18:47.29 | cbreak | even flying |
| 18:48.35 | Kraps | look people, saying you wont spoil the cliffhanger ending IS A SPOILER |
| 18:49.07 | Dagmar | I think it's time to start publicly executing a few people a week for excessive stupidity, as a warning to the rest |
| 18:49.31 | cbreak | warnings won't work on stupid people |
| 18:49.34 | cbreak | they forget about them |
| 18:51.33 | Dagmar | They won't forget the sounds of the screaming of Mary Suttleton of Oklahoma, who was burned to death for the crime of complaining to a store manager that her portable TV stopped working when she didn't charge it |
| 18:52.14 | Dagmar | The key works here that most other people would *not* use--but that I am fairly fond of-- is "public" and "execution". |
| 18:54.44 | Dagmar | People want something new, but they still watch "reality" shows? Lets televise that stuff. |
| 18:55.06 | Dagmar | Executions used to serve as a form of public entertainment in the middle ages. Why not today? |
| 18:55.29 | cbreak | because killing is wrong... :) |
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| 18:55.54 | Dagmar | Sometimes bad things happen to bad people. |
| 18:56.10 | Dagmar | Sometimes those things are fatal. |
| 18:56.16 | Dagmar | It's nature's way. |
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| 19:02.17 | sylvanaar_work | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/12/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-sells-33-million-in-first-24-hours/1 |
| 19:03.58 | cbreak | they probably used the same cheat apple does all the time |
| 19:04.06 | cbreak | and count preorders to the first day sales |
| 19:04.26 | sylvanaar_work | ofc |
| 19:04.46 | sylvanaar_work | you have to preorder to get it on the first day |
| 19:04.53 | sylvanaar_work | "sold out" |
| 19:06.23 | KarlKFI|work | MMOs kind of cheat for those stats tho, compared to one off games |
| 19:06.40 | KarlKFI|work | even expansions aren't really comparable |
| 19:07.29 | KarlKFI|work | MMO > expansion > multiplayer > sequel > single player |
| 19:07.53 | KarlKFI|work | sequel and mp might swap, not sure |
| 19:08.06 | KarlKFI|work | there's combinations too ofc |
| 19:08.30 | KarlKFI|work | MMOs compell you to upgrade if you want to keep playing |
| 19:08.38 | sylvanaar_work | i was confused with your > statements already |
| 19:08.58 | KarlKFI|work | at generating first day sales |
| 19:12.51 | Lopeppeppy | The power of MMO compells you!!! |
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| 19:14.32 | Lunessa | station |
| 19:15.27 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear |
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| 19:20.16 | sylvanaar_work | MMOOO |
| 19:20.50 | smcn | massively multiplayer object oriented online |
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| 19:25.44 | Cide | MMOOOP |
| 19:25.52 | Cide | massively multiplayer online object oriented programming |
| 19:27.42 | smcn | yes |
| 19:27.46 | smcn | the next step up from minecraft |
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| 19:47.40 | mono|strigoy | hmmmm is there a way to update the add-on discription without updating the archive on wowi? Or do I always have to include the same file again and go through verifying process again? |
| 19:48.31 | nevcairiel | just dont change the version and dont upload a new file |
| 19:49.00 | mono|strigoy | oh, great, thank you |
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| 20:11.44 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.56 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.44 | Lopeppeppy | So now that you know, you can go where there's less competition! |
| 20:13.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's like the Skittles were, those stupid squawking bird people, the daily egg bombing exercise. If you know where to go, you can avoid the "camped" obvious places and be done so fast. |
| 20:13.33 | Kraps | but i already finished it :( |
| 20:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | Tell all of your guildmates and your friends... oh wait, you just told us! |
| 20:14.13 | alestane | Lunessa, http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-23242.html |
| 20:14.59 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: :p |
| 20:15.13 | Lunessa | alestane: Apparently, Julie is a nice person. |
| 20:15.48 | alestane | In other news, apparently Cataclysm went platinum three times in its first 24 hours on sale. |
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| 20:20.19 | zenzelezz | "[1. General] [...]: dps lf coc fight" - DPS and their coc fights... |
| 20:21.51 | Primer | I've not been able to get near that place. Despite alliance being more prevalent on my realm (by a very small margin), that place is always filled with horde |
| 20:24.24 | Xyphoid | it's pretty hilariously buggy at times |
| 20:24.28 | Xyphoid | we've had two fights going on at once |
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| 20:30.04 | Primer | fuck, I can't stay 2 minutes in the game on my laptop without it hanging |
| 20:30.16 | Primer | I don't DC either, it's a full on hang |
| 20:31.00 | Lopeppeppy | Network issues? Heat issues? |
| 20:31.28 | Primer | I've had heat issues in the past |
| 20:31.46 | Primer | I can't see network causing it to fully hang...that'd DC me |
| 20:32.17 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes an extremely high ping can make you feel like hanging your computer... |
| 20:32.52 | Primer | I'm getting extremely crappy throughput right now though |
| 20:33.19 | Primer | yet latency is fine |
| 20:33.42 | Primer | I wonder if my addon is introducing an infinite loop |
| 20:34.15 | Primer | I had to nuke my SavedVariables files, as I couldn't even get 1/5th the way into the loading progress bar |
| 20:34.20 | zenzelezz | and jesus... the mess that is Crucible of Carnage. Got into a group where not one person was on the same boss as any others, seemingly |
| 20:34.31 | Lopeppeppy | Um... yes, if you haven't tried logging in with no addons enabled, please do that first. :) |
| 20:34.34 | zenzelezz | "Is it ours?" "It's ours." "Go." "It's not ours." "Wtf?" |
| 20:34.47 | Primer | So now I'm waiting before changing the addon settings |
| 20:34.56 | Primer | this is an addon I'm working on |
| 20:35.08 | Primer | so far no hang |
| 20:39.33 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
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| 20:42.27 | cogwheel | sings Fisker a Moonshine Lullaby |
| 20:43.19 | Primer | hehe Stephen Ryback, cooking trainer...Steven Sagal played Casey Ryback in that one movie where he was the navy seal cook |
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| 20:48.25 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 20:48.28 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 20:48.34 | Fisker | I don't wanna go to sleep now :( |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker | must...stay...awake |
| 20:48.55 | cogwheel | behind the hill there's a busy little still where din mor is working in the moonlight |
| 20:49.56 | Lunessa | Primer: Have you met Chef Boyardee yet? |
| 20:50.04 | Primer | Yes! |
| 20:50.16 | Primer | Can't say the blizz people don't have a sense of humor |
| 20:51.47 | mikma | sioraiocht: toooooooommy |
| 20:51.57 | Primer | argh, same JC daily as yesterday's |
| 20:52.31 | Primer | uncut Nightstone in the AH...170g each |
| 20:53.22 | Fisker | Primer |
| 20:53.40 | mikma | FFFFFIIIIIISSSSSSSSSKKKKKKK |
| 20:54.40 | cogwheel | FSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS *BOOM* |
| 20:54.59 | mikma | fisker: i just washed my testicles. now they are uberclean. |
| 20:55.01 | ckknight | ~wowxml |
| 20:55.01 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 20:55.01 | Fisker | mikma |
| 20:55.05 | ckknight | ~framexml |
| 20:55.05 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 20:55.15 | Fisker | no I just washed your testicles |
| 20:55.18 | Fisker | (no homo) |
| 20:55.30 | mikma | you might have watched, not washed |
| 20:55.44 | mikma | cause the washing was tender |
| 20:55.58 | mikma | (read, not done with spoon) |
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| 20:56.27 | Primer | I take that back...200g |
| 20:56.54 | Fisker | a |
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| 21:03.31 | Lunessa | Hey, I made 11K in the auction house yesterday. :) |
| 21:03.38 | Primer | nice |
| 21:03.42 | Primer | selling what? |
| 21:05.03 | durcyn | his dignity |
| 21:06.01 | mikma | dicknity |
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| 21:11.37 | Kraps | nordrassil har brilliant music |
| 21:11.42 | Kraps | has^ |
| 21:14.37 | bleeter | i prefer har |
| 21:15.52 | cogwheel | Gnomeregan's is brillianter. Not that I've heard Nordrassil's, but gnomes > * |
| 21:16.04 | Xyphoid | it looks like there's mad money available in the AH at the moment but i just can't face it compared to new content |
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| 21:28.02 | Lunessa | cogwheel: CD\gnomeregan del *.* |
| 21:28.54 | Computerpunk | Any Minimap AddOn I can use with MetaMap as a Map AddOn? |
| 21:28.59 | Computerpunk | Got tired of Carbonite memory hogging. |
| 21:29.42 | Computerpunk | Meh, I'll ask again tomorrow. |
| 21:29.50 | durcyn | you're doing it wrong, use mapster and sexymap |
| 21:29.56 | zenzelezz | what do you want the minimap to do that the default minimap doesn't? |
| 21:31.06 | Fisker | i once killed a Lunessa |
| 21:31.40 | Lunessa | Fisker: Get in line. I've been killed by better than you. |
| 21:33.51 | Fisker | k |
| 21:41.10 | zenzelezz | okay, I've seen my share of silly spam subjects... but this is new: "Big penis like a girl!" |
| 21:41.30 | Dagmar | It's a "Tarzan like Jane" thing |
| 21:41.57 | Dagmar | Tarzan wasn't saying he wanted to wear a dress. |
| 21:44.16 | Dagmar | CNN is really getting worked up about this Miley bong thing. Must be a slow news day |
| 21:44.21 | Thrae | zenzelezz: It's probably a joke stemming from Freudian psychology...and why do I have to wake up to this? |
| 21:46.43 | Dagmar | Either that or someone's penis has been sending emails pleading for women while the owner sleeps. |
| 21:47.48 | Dagmar | Good luck trying to explain that one to Chris Hansen. |
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| 21:52.50 | Cide | hi |
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| 21:58.33 | Kraps | Dagmar: bong eh? |
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| 22:00.26 | Dagmar | yep. There's a video showing Miley Cyrus hitting a bong like a freshman |
| 22:00.43 | Dagmar | She wasn't smoking _weed_ tho, she was smoking salvia divinorum |
| 22:01.04 | Dagmar | ...which isn't exactly the sort of thing that most kids are going to find fun to smoke. |
| 22:01.07 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 22:02.19 | Kraps | never heard of it |
| 22:03.46 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1172919093#15 <-dey see me trollin' |
| 22:03.48 | nicoli_s | miley bong? |
| 22:03.48 | Fisker | dey hatin' |
| 22:04.48 | nicoli_s | thats hilarious dagmar thanks for pointing that out to me |
| 22:05.27 | Dagmar | CNN is clearly still working out what people might think about it |
| 22:05.35 | Dagmar | Most of them aren't real bright |
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| 22:06.12 | Dagmar | Someone earlier seriously questioned by salvia is legal in California when other states have made it illegal |
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| 22:06.32 | nicoli_s | im watching cnn now, hope i see some mention of it, this should be fun |
| 22:06.39 | Dagmar | The most obvious answer to that one is "because California has people who actually know about drugs" |
| 22:06.52 | Dagmar | It's on CNN HLN right now |
| 22:07.09 | nicoli_s | what show? dont think i get that |
| 22:08.25 | Dagmar | It's one of their networks. |
| 22:08.29 | Dagmar | TMZ apparently has the video |
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| 22:08.44 | Dagmar | http://www.tmz.com/2010/12/10/miley-cyrus-video-bong-hit-smoking-salvia-herb-pyschedelic-birthday-party-hannah-montana/ |
| 22:08.54 | nicoli_s | ha |
| 22:09.04 | nicoli_s | wonder if its the leaves or an extract |
| 22:09.14 | nicoli_s | cuz leaves aint shit, but itd be hilarius if shes hitting like x20 |
| 22:10.10 | Dagmar | It's just the leaves |
| 22:10.30 | nicoli_s | boo |
| 22:10.50 | Dagmar | Well, you see her reaction, right? |
| 22:11.00 | Dagmar | I find it hilarious some places are comparing salvia to LSD |
| 22:11.42 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:14.08 | nicoli_s | holy crap, glenn beck is actually suggesting they dont pass a law against julian assange |
| 22:14.46 | Jamash | what does he want instead, targeted assassination? |
| 22:14.53 | Thrae | Marijuana has been compared to tons of crap too. Some people think that, with drugs, even legal drugs, using misinformation to steer people away from them is the greater good. |
| 22:15.35 | nicoli_s | so sad :( |
| 22:15.52 | Thrae | nicoli_s: Julian Assange *did* say that he had far worse stuff he was holding back...maybe one of them involves Glenn Beck ;) |
| 22:15.58 | Dagmar | What? |
| 22:16.03 | nicoli_s | Jamash:surprisingly he has been semicalm in what im watching |
| 22:16.15 | Thrae | Or maybe Glenn Beck is actually scared of what Assange *may* know. |
| 22:16.20 | Dagmar | Why is Beck arguing that they shouldn't pass a law against Julian Assange? |
| 22:16.23 | Jamash | Thrae: stupid people, believing that everyone else is even stupider than they are, think stupid things |
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| 22:16.26 | Dagmar | Why the fuck is he even considering that topic? |
| 22:16.45 | Dagmar | You don't pass laws "against" individuals |
| 22:16.48 | Dagmar | That's crazy |
| 22:16.52 | nicoli_s | Dagmar:he says passing a law to catch one specificperson who alreadyd did the crime is stupid and just gives the govt more power |
| 22:16.55 | Jamash | you do if you're a republican hohoho |
| 22:17.03 | nicoli_s | and yeah exactly what dagmar just said |
| 22:17.07 | durcyn | why is (insert hatemongering demagogue) performing (insert inspidid act) |
| 22:17.26 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: I suppose he's trying to be sensational by pointing out the obvious when Palin and Gingrich are calling for assassination |
| 22:17.43 | Jamash | Dagmar: They are? I was trying to make a joke :( |
| 22:17.46 | nicoli_s | yeah its just weird not seeing him be in the extreme |
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| 22:17.54 | Thrae | Jamash: I think "it's for the greater good" is one of those moral BSes you either believe or actually have to be fairly intelligent to conclude. |
| 22:18.01 | nicoli_s | Jamash:oh yeah def, lots of people are saying "send a drone to get him" |
| 22:18.02 | Dagmar | That's about as freaky if he were up there explaining that 2 plus 2 equals four |
| 22:18.26 | Thrae | Jamash: Watchmen is a great example of such a quandry ;) |
| 22:18.30 | Jamash | Thrae: "the greater good" is the intention the road to hell is paved with |
| 22:18.45 | durcyn | Jamash: you forgot "for the children" |
| 22:18.51 | Jamash | durcyn: same thing |
| 22:18.54 | Dagmar | Jamash: Well, I was being partially sarcastic. The were publicly advocating the DDoS against WikiLeaks, and they were saying he should be "hunted like bin Laden" |
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| 22:19.08 | Dagmar | There's a new Godwin clause apparently. |
| 22:19.10 | Jamash | Dagmar: Oh, well, in that case he's perfectly safe. |
| 22:19.50 | Jamash | I mean, we're not actually hunting bin Laden, so... |
| 22:20.12 | Xyphoid | laws against one specific person aren't just dumb, they're unconstitutional |
| 22:20.12 | Thrae | <Dagmar> ...he should be "hunted like bin Laden" <-- meaning they won't find him even if he develops a disease that makes it fairly hard for him to move around? |
| 22:20.21 | Dagmar | yeah, really |
| 22:21.22 | Thrae | Dagmar: I was waiting for them to invade someplace like Switzerland, since they would be the type to harbour Assange. |
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| 22:21.53 | Thrae | Can't invade the country where he's really at because "we have too good diplomatic relations with them" |
| 22:22.26 | Vlad__ | I was wondering if anyone here had any experience coding up auction mods? |
| 22:22.47 | Thrae | Vlad__: Now THAT is a serious PITA. |
| 22:23.18 | Thrae | The new way they do the streaming stuff has messed with some of the popular scanning ones, like Auctioneer. |
| 22:23.20 | Vlad__ | I am thinking that I am missing some of the previous conversation :) |
| 22:23.44 | Thrae | I want my Ludwig back, but it might be a while before someone figures out if it's even possible now =/ |
| 22:23.46 | Vlad__ | Thrae: I am writing my own mod... rather fixing it. |
| 22:24.08 | Thrae | I definitely don't blame Tuller for that. |
| 22:24.12 | Dagmar | See, what I don't get is how Sweden can actually and with a straight face be asking for Assange to be arrested |
| 22:24.13 | Jamash | Thrae: Really? What sort of problems does the streaming cause? |
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| 22:24.48 | Thrae | Jamash: Addons that try to load caches are currently hanging the game left and right. |
| 22:24.54 | Vlad__ | Jamash: Blizz put in some kind of throttling code into the the auction query functions so that you couldn't just bombard the server with your scan... |
| 22:24.58 | Jamash | Dagmar: You actually don't get it or you totally get it but find it offensive? |
| 22:25.15 | Thrae | I believe it has to do with the new "sparser" cache format. |
| 22:25.26 | Dagmar | Roman Polanski gave quaaludes to an underage girl and did her in the butt and hung out (on the lam) in that very same country for decades |
| 22:25.30 | Thrae | And when I say caches, I mean Blizz's caches. |
| 22:25.36 | Jamash | Dagmar: good point |
| 22:25.41 | Vlad__ | The problem I am having is with posting an item for auction |
| 22:26.02 | Jamash | Dagmar: However, Roman Polanski didn't piss off any major world governments while doing so |
| 22:26.13 | Dagmar | That seems to be the double-standard, yes |
| 22:26.33 | Thrae | Vlad__: So your addon does automatic batch-posting? |
| 22:26.43 | Vlad__ | Thrae: Yes, it used to :) |
| 22:26.44 | Dagmar | They do need to realize tho that in this particular mexican standoff, they are _terribly outnumbered_ |
| 22:27.22 | Thrae | Vlad__: Probably could just have it "sleep" for 1-3 seconds per post. It would be slower but should resolve any changes Blizz did on their end. |
| 22:27.27 | Vlad__ | I read on some dead thread off google that they put in some kind of hardware event requirement on the StartAuction and CancelAuction functions |
| 22:27.32 | Dagmar | They should suck it up and leave Assange and WikiLeaks alone |
| 22:27.38 | Vlad__ | Thrae: I tried that.. |
| 22:27.45 | Jamash | Dagmar: They should, but they won't. |
| 22:27.47 | Thrae | Ah, hardware event requirement, hmmm |
| 22:28.16 | Thrae | Usually that should just throw back a taint or other error message. |
| 22:29.33 | Jamash | Vlad__: You should be able to post multiple auctions of the same item with one hardware event |
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| 22:30.25 | Vlad__ | Thrae: Yeah, I remember seeing those kind of errors when I was originlly making this,... but this one craps out when it tried to execute that calculate deposit... and it looks like auctioneer is overriding that function call, because it used to crap from their lib cal, but now it is doing it with the actual core lib from Blizz |
| 22:30.32 | kaiden | Hey all, once upon a time i had an addon that would automatically start quests that start from clicking a quest item you loot, i can't seem to find that addon anymore, anyone know what it's called |
| 22:30.41 | Vlad__ | Jamash: Well the thing is, that I am not using a hardware event to do this |
| 22:31.27 | Jamash | Vlad__: Is that allowed? |
| 22:31.37 | Vlad__ | Well, that is what I am trying to conform or deny... |
| 22:31.39 | Thrae | Technically you have to at least click on the Auction NPC to get the ball rolling, and probably a drag & drop too, which are both hardware events. |
| 22:31.42 | Jamash | ah, I see |
| 22:31.55 | Vlad__ | Usually when you violate the hardware event dealio you get an error to that effect... |
| 22:34.13 | Vlad__ | But Swatter! is catching some kind of error before I actually try and post... The function ClickAuctionSellItemButton() takes what is on your cursor and puts it into the "create auction" box on the auctions tab... basically like clicking on it and moving it over... well part of this on the UI is that it calculates what your deposit is, but I keep getting that error |
| 22:35.52 | Vlad__ | Thrae: Well yes, I am not so good that it automagically opens the window for you :) This is just a little cludge I put together to save me like 3 hours of auction time a day |
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| 22:36.24 | Thrae | Swatter! should do a full trace, and there's a way to view that in-game, but you can just look at the saved error message in the SV file. |
| 22:36.50 | Vlad__ | Ok slow down... sounds like we might be getting somewhere :) |
| 22:37.04 | Vlad__ | Yeah, I have a copy of the error that swatter craps out... |
| 22:37.26 | Vlad__ | Where is this SV file? |
| 22:37.30 | Aezay | Where can I find a table, or formula for max guild xp per level? |
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| 22:43.36 | Thrae | Vlad__: It's not saved per-character as that would be silly, so the same main SavedVariables directory -- WTF/Account/<accountname/SavedVariables. |
| 22:43.52 | Vlad__ | Yeah, I am poking around in there :) |
| 22:44.50 | Fisker | punches Thrae |
| 22:45.32 | Thrae | Fisker: By the way I saw a post somewhere in some weird forum...are you FISKER_Q? |
| 22:45.48 | Fisker | no |
| 22:46.00 | Fisker | must've mistaken me for someone else |
| 22:46.34 | Vlad__ | I found the swatter file.. let me make it barf again so I can get a fresh copy of the error |
| 22:50.58 | Vlad__ | Hmmm... seems like only the loadup errors are in this file... |
| 22:51.03 | Fisker | hey Thrae |
| 22:51.52 | Vlad__ | Ok, this is the error mesage ["message"] = "...ace\\AddOns\\Blizzard_AuctionUI\\Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua:1458: Usage: CalculateAuctionDeposit(runTime)" |
| 22:52.45 | Vlad__ | Here is the call stack... its kind of a mess... |
| 22:52.47 | Vlad__ | "[C]: ?\n[C]: in function `CalculateAuctionDeposit'\n...ace\\AddOns\\Blizzard_AuctionUI\\Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua:1458: in function `UpdateDeposit'\n...ace\\AddOns\\Blizzard_AuctionUI\\Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua:1516: in function <...ace\\AddOns\\Blizzard_AuctionUI\\Blizzard_AuctionUI.lua:1461>\n[C]: in function `ClickAuctionSellItemButton'\nInterface\\AddOns\\money\\money.lua:341: in function `AuctionScanUpdate'\nInterface\\AddOns\\money\\money.lu |
| 22:52.47 | Vlad__ | in function `Money_OnUpdate'\n[string \"*:OnUpdate\"]:1: in function <[string \"*:OnUpdate\"]:1>\n", |
| 22:53.00 | Vlad__ | Let me edit it a bit... |
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| 22:53.13 | Fisker | get it Thrae |
| 22:53.14 | Fisker | ? |
| 22:53.15 | jnwhiteh | post that on a pastey fsite please |
| 22:53.17 | jnwhiteh | don't post it here |
| 22:53.39 | Vlad__ | Oh... sorry.. |
| 22:54.33 | Thrae | Fisker: Get what |
| 22:55.28 | Fisker | i'm fooling you |
| 22:55.33 | Thrae | Vlad__: Yeah, and go ahead and download the Addon Kit from Blizz so you know how ClickAuctionSellItemButton works in money.lua. |
| 22:56.18 | Vlad__ | Thrae: Thanks, let me grind on that a bit. |
| 22:56.22 | Thrae | And while you're in money.lua see if MakeMoreRandomNonCombatPetsAndMounts() is in there too. |
| 22:57.17 | Kraps | Fisker: your love is like bad medicine |
| 22:57.56 | Dagmar | Your taste in music is like sewage runoff. |
| 23:01.06 | Kraps | Dagmar: lose yourself in the music |
| 23:01.19 | Dagmar | Not to Bon Jovi I don't |
| 23:01.34 | Dagmar | I thought it was only teenage mall rat girls who listened to him anyway |
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| 23:02.22 | Kraps | now or then? |
| 23:02.38 | Dagmar | That taste is surely even more questionable now |
| 23:03.10 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Just pretend to like it to get easily impressed chicks. |
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| 23:05.20 | Kraps | Dagmar: it's my life |
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| 23:11.04 | Jamash | Kraps: and it's now or never? |
| 23:11.27 | Kraps | i dont wanna live forever |
| 23:12.50 | Jamash | I just wanna live while I'm alive |
| 23:13.14 | Jamash | so I just noticed that the LW vendor has nothing past 500 and I thought my client was broken |
| 23:13.39 | Jamash | turns out everything from then on is a vendor pattern |
| 23:14.26 | Jamash | and the patterns all cost 10 heavy savage leather each |
| 23:15.25 | Jamash | I hope blizzard can see this, because I'm doing it as hard as I can |
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| 23:41.01 | Aezay | Guild XP: Where to find a list or formula of max xp per level? |
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| 23:46.45 | Aezay | If anyone else was interested as well, I think this is about right: (16580 + 1660 * (level - 1)) |
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