| 00:00.35 | Shirik | but foxlit, 439208192231179800 also truncates |
| 00:00.38 | Shirik | so |
| 00:00.59 | Xinhuan | so its just a standard floating point division |
| 00:01.02 | xqo | how do you delete an addon from wowinterface? |
| 00:01.03 | foxlit | You're right, I should've complicated it a bit more. |
| 00:01.04 | Lulia | Shirik? |
| 00:01.10 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:01.28 | foxlit | I wasn't counting on floats -- wanted mainly to catch people using 32/64-bit ints. |
| 00:01.29 | Shirik | xqo: You tell me what addon you want deleted |
| 00:01.44 | bleeter | 10:58 < Lulia> Shirik, can your lua extension take multiple arguments? |
| 00:01.55 | Shirik | not sure what's meant by multiple arguments |
| 00:02.03 | foxlit | @(3,9,17) |
| 00:02.04 | Lulia | ...@2@3 |
| 00:02.09 | Lulia | or foxlit's |
| 00:02.13 | Shirik | Currently the only implemented form is ...[n] |
| 00:02.13 | foxlit | for bonuspoints, @(42,42,4,2) |
| 00:02.16 | Shirik | and no |
| 00:02.20 | Shirik | that's why we want to change it to @ |
| 00:02.39 | bleeter | foxlit: (42,6*9) |
| 00:02.50 | Lulia | @(1-4) would also be neat, not sure though as lua might just read that as a subtract statement |
| 00:03.06 | xqo | Shirik, i want XqoFocus deleted |
| 00:03.12 | Shirik | give me a link |
| 00:03.24 | xqo | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18923-XqoFocus.html |
| 00:03.38 | Xinhuan | @(1,4) |
| 00:03.40 | Cide | for awesomeness |
| 00:03.41 | Xinhuan | problem solved |
| 00:03.47 | Shirik | and out of curiosity, why? |
| 00:04.07 | xqo | i want to upload it under a different category. can i do that without deleting it? |
| 00:04.15 | Shirik | You can tell me what category you want it in |
| 00:04.17 | xqo | i couldnt find that option, at least |
| 00:04.19 | ScytheBlade1 | so, who here has used sharepoint extensively? |
| 00:04.19 | Cide | function foo() return 5, 1, 3, 2, 4 end; (foo()@(foo()))@(foo()) |
| 00:04.23 | ScytheBlade1 | either 2007 or 2010 |
| 00:04.30 | xqo | i need to change the name and stuff too |
| 00:04.37 | Shirik | you can tell me anything you want changed |
| 00:04.42 | Lulia | But Xin, what if I only wanted 1 and 4? |
| 00:04.59 | foxlit | foo()@(bar()) |
| 00:05.03 | Xinhuan | then do it the old fashioned way! |
| 00:05.05 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 00:05.09 | xqo | Change the name to XqoPowerbar, change the category to wherever mana/focus/rage/energy-bars fit best |
| 00:05.15 | Shirik | I will NOT support "only wanted 1 and 4" |
| 00:05.30 | Shirik | The point of this extension is to support something that the VM can already do very quickly |
| 00:05.35 | Shirik | "get 1 and 4" is not easy for the VM |
| 00:05.39 | Lulia | ah |
| 00:05.40 | Xinhuan | see, i knew it :P |
| 00:06.01 | foxlit | I wonder what makes "get 1 and 4" harder than "get 4" |
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| 00:06.40 | Xinhuan | has to do with stack manipulation i think? |
| 00:06.43 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure on that one |
| 00:07.28 | Cide | Shirik |
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| 00:07.36 | Shirik | xqo, done |
| 00:07.37 | Cide | we need (foo()@(foo())@(foo()) |
| 00:07.40 | xqo | thanks! |
| 00:07.51 | Cide | missed a parenthesis |
| 00:07.54 | Xinhuan | would that be executed right to left? :D |
| 00:08.00 | Shirik | foxlit: The VM is very good at copying blocks of the stack |
| 00:08.05 | Shirik | Doing "1 and 4" would require two operations |
| 00:08.09 | Cide | (foo()@foo())@foo() |
| 00:08.25 | Cide | or (foo()@(foo()))@(foo()) depending on the parser |
| 00:08.42 | Lulia | I still dont get what foo()@ would do :( |
| 00:08.45 | foxlit | Somehow I'm not shuddering in fear at the sound of "two operations" :) |
| 00:08.57 | Lulia | Only return a certain number in the return list? |
| 00:09.01 | Shirik | Well point is my philosophy on operators is that it should mimic the lowest level of operations |
| 00:09.06 | Shirik | This is also why I hate the ^ operator |
| 00:09.24 | foxlit | Your philosophy can pack its bags and head off to Assembler. |
| 00:10.21 | foxlit | [no, seriously. The power operator is awesome, and pow() is evil.] |
| 00:10.38 | Xinhuan | what's wrong with ^ ? |
| 00:10.52 | foxlit | It's not in hardware. Presumably. |
| 00:11.32 | Kraps | pwnage http://kotaku.com/5704686/super-meat-boys-last-laugh-on-peta-is-pc+playable-tofu-boy |
| 00:11.34 | Kraps | pwnage x2 http://kotaku.com/5704688/chastened-prosecutors-dismiss-xbox-360-modding-case |
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| 00:13.01 | Xinhuan | well you could argue that a > b is really 2 operations then |
| 00:13.06 | Xinhuan | since its really a-b > 0 |
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| 00:16.48 | Lulia | Hmm, so a < b is b-a > 0? |
| 00:17.25 | Ackis | blarghs. |
| 00:17.47 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/12/02/funny-pictures-atheist-cat/ - lol |
| 00:18.04 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 00:18.23 | Xinhuan | the CPU can only compare a number against 0 |
| 00:18.45 | Xinhuan | unless that changed recently with new CPUs |
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| 00:19.19 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 00:19.20 | foxlit | < 0 is easy |
| 00:19.22 | Xinhuan | whether that becomes b-a>0 or a-b < 0, it a matter of the compiler |
| 00:19.26 | Xinhuan | is* |
| 00:19.36 | Industrial | I can hold my kittay upside down by its legs |
| 00:19.39 | Industrial | it will still purr |
| 00:19.43 | Industrial | \:D/ |
| 00:19.44 | foxlit | [easier than = 0, too] |
| 00:20.12 | foxlit | Hm, the darkmoon faire video has some interesting music |
| 00:20.58 | Cide | foxlit: so we should start using -1 for truth testing |
| 00:21.06 | Cide | if foo() < 0 then -- true |
| 00:21.27 | Xinhuan | "not 0" is the fastest |
| 00:21.33 | Cide | no |
| 00:21.38 | Cide | not 0 would require checking all bits |
| 00:21.44 | Cide | < 0 would require checking one bit |
| 00:21.54 | Xinhuan | not correct |
| 00:22.00 | Xinhuan | it depends on what type of number |
| 00:22.06 | Cide | two-complement integer |
| 00:22.16 | Lulia | O.o |
| 00:22.23 | Xinhuan | also all modern CPUs operate on all the bits at the same time |
| 00:22.31 | Kraps | poot Obama :( http://www.theonion.com/articles/frustrated-obama-sends-nation-rambling-75000word-e,18516/?utm_source=recentnews |
| 00:22.45 | Xyphoid | that assange article on there was good |
| 00:23.41 | Xinhuan | that is, both == 0 and < 0 would take the same number of clock cycles |
| 00:23.51 | foxlit | booring. |
| 00:23.57 | Cide | yeah, you're probably right in practice :( |
| 00:24.03 | Cide | in theory < 0 could be faster though |
| 00:24.21 | foxlit | Probably because a clock cycle is actually slower than either operation |
| 00:24.43 | Xinhuan | a clock cycle is needed to return the result |
| 00:25.06 | Xinhuan | the memory used to hold the result isn't considered stable enough to be read until the next clock tick |
| 00:25.16 | foxlit | More boring. |
| 00:25.18 | xqo | hey, i use SetPoint and Getpoint to get and save the position of my frame. When I reload my UI the frame is about 5cm to the right of where i placed it before i reloaded. GetPoint shows the same before and after ReloadUI(); |
| 00:25.32 | xqo | what could that be? |
| 00:25.35 | foxlit | In that you're technically correct, but it's for entirely silly and unrelated reasons. :) |
| 00:26.04 | Xinhuan | xqo, anchor |
| 00:26.30 | Xinhuan | what frame is it anchored to, and what is the scale of the parent frame |
| 00:27.40 | xqo | <Frame name="XquFrame" parent="UIParent"><Size x="160" y="20" /> <Anchors><Anchor point="CENTER" /> thats the parent |
| 00:27.50 | Kraps | it grew up to be a real MMO! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L10g6JQLJFg&feature=player_embedded |
| 00:28.12 | Xinhuan | did you :ClearAllPoints() on the frame |
| 00:28.12 | xqo | <StatusBar name="Xqu_hpbar" inherits="TextStatusBar"><Size x="160" y="6"/><Anchors> <Anchor point="TOP" relativepoint="BOTTOM" /> this is the statusbar that is on it |
| 00:28.18 | xqo | no |
| 00:28.22 | Xinhuan | before you set the new position that you obtained from the loaded data? |
| 00:28.25 | Xinhuan | do that |
| 00:28.28 | foxlit | still wish they'd do proper reflections in water |
| 00:28.41 | Xinhuan | your frame already has a CENTER anchor point defined in XML |
| 00:28.45 | foxlit | This scenery-only stuff is cheating. |
| 00:28.51 | Xinhuan | so when you setpoint, you are adding more points |
| 00:28.53 | Xinhuan | not replacing them |
| 00:29.41 | xqo | wohoo it worked. thanks alot Xinhuan! |
| 00:30.07 | Kraps | foxlit: i wish many of the models stopped looking like crap but you cant have everthing |
| 00:30.38 | foxlit | I wonder if "The world has 3 types of caves" is on tvtropes yet |
| 00:31.18 | Kraps | ? |
| 00:31.44 | foxlit | Ever noticed how WoW has only three cave layouts? |
| 00:31.46 | Xyphoid | hey, did you see they added a cave in loch modan that was a standard cave #4 ... but mirror reflected! |
| 00:32.18 | Xinhuan | Xyphoid, really? i never actually noticed |
| 00:32.40 | Xyphoid | iirc it's a new one, for the robot bird quest |
| 00:32.48 | Xinhuan | oh that cave! |
| 00:32.50 | Xinhuan | it did feel new |
| 00:32.55 | Xinhuan | now come to think of it... |
| 00:32.57 | Angayelle | mirroring stuff is the easy way, remember mario kart ? they sold us every race 2 times |
| 00:33.00 | foxlit | Hm, I can think of 4. |
| 00:33.30 | Angayelle | !api SetDrawLayer |
| 00:33.30 | lua_bot | LayeredRegion:SetDrawLayer: Sets the layer at which the region's graphics are drawn relative to others in its frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/LayeredRegion/SetDrawLayer) |
| 00:33.30 | Xyphoid | yeah i walked in and went ! hey new cave layout! ... oh wait |
| 00:33.35 | foxlit | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CutAndPasteEnvironments |
| 00:33.36 | foxlit | ha |
| 00:33.58 | Xinhuan | did u see the video on ff14's cut and past environments? |
| 00:33.59 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:34.07 | foxlit | link |
| 00:34.22 | Xinhuan | it was on one of wowhead's blogs |
| 00:34.25 | Xinhuan | a month ago |
| 00:34.38 | Lulia | MikeB did it, it was sort of funny, yeah |
| 00:34.47 | Xinhuan | i'm sure u can find it |
| 00:35.20 | Xyphoid | i'm goign to add an entry after the nethack one talking about how all modern games reuse the same pixels |
| 00:35.27 | Xyphoid | that one is just dumb |
| 00:35.46 | Xinhuan | kotaku had a whole article on it too |
| 00:36.21 | Angayelle | !api ?etDrawLayer |
| 00:36.22 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '?etDrawLayer'. |
| 00:36.29 | Angayelle | !api GetDrawLayer |
| 00:36.29 | lua_bot | LayeredRegion:GetDrawLayer: Returns the layer at which the region's graphics are drawn relative to others in its frame (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/LayeredRegion/GetDrawLayer) |
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| 00:37.20 | Kraps | the wow environment team has only 4 people wut |
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| 00:38.18 | xqo | thanks alot for all the help guys!! Im leaving now, bye! |
| 00:41.41 | Xinhuan | found it yet foxlit? lol |
| 00:42.00 | foxlit | Xinhuan: you said wowhead blog and I went "Hm, I'll read tvtropes instead" |
| 00:42.45 | Kraps | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife |
| 00:44.02 | Xinhuan | foxlit |
| 00:44.03 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=168781.5/final-fantasy-xiv-and-i-didnt-even-have-to-mention-the-lack-of-jump |
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| 00:46.44 | Xinhuan | about 8.50 in |
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| 00:46.55 | Xinhuan | but you probably want to watch the whole thing anyway hehe |
| 00:48.04 | foxlit | Hm, the camera is centered exactly on the tail. |
| 00:48.28 | Xinhuan | its pretty damn funny |
| 00:48.35 | Xinhuan | especially the critique in the first 8 min |
| 00:48.41 | Lulia | Yeah, I remember this BFF report |
| 00:49.04 | Lulia | The journey to the first quest is HILARIOUS |
| 00:49.37 | Xinhuan | the spelling errors pointed out between 7-9 min was funny |
| 00:49.53 | Lulia | And I like his subtle references to jump not being in there |
| 00:49.59 | Xinhuan | the video even compared it to wow's cut and pasted caves |
| 00:50.01 | Xinhuan | lolol |
| 00:50.15 | Lulia | *bumps into random objects* |
| 00:51.26 | Kraps | whats with the 20 mile run |
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| 00:53.17 | bluspacecow | hi xinhuan :) |
| 00:53.21 | Lulia | Makes the world feel "big" and "expansive" |
| 00:53.22 | Xinhuan | hi bluspacecow |
| 00:53.26 | Lulia | Something that WoW avoided |
| 00:53.28 | Xinhuan | i have a question for you! |
| 00:53.32 | bluspacecow | yes ? |
| 00:53.39 | Xinhuan | do you copy-pasta your signature into every post you make now? |
| 00:53.45 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 00:53.47 | bluspacecow | its a trick ! |
| 00:53.59 | Xinhuan | or do you have some secret signature that only greens can access! |
| 00:54.02 | bluspacecow | what os and browser do you use ? |
| 00:54.04 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 00:54.09 | foxlit | also, wow. |
| 00:54.13 | bluspacecow | its just an addon that inserts a CSS file |
| 00:54.17 | foxlit | Those walking animations? Horrible. |
| 00:54.19 | Xinhuan | firefox |
| 00:54.32 | bluspacecow | ok then you will use greasemonkey |
| 00:54.38 | foxlit | I mean, it looks okay if you're taking a few steps, but going for a run is just... silly. |
| 00:54.38 | Xinhuan | oh so its sort of still copy paste |
| 00:54.45 | Xinhuan | except a gm script does it |
| 00:54.49 | bluspacecow | sort of |
| 00:54.56 | bluspacecow | its a javascript script |
| 00:55.09 | Xinhuan | yeah i have gm installed |
| 00:55.14 | Xinhuan | although its not on most of the time |
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| 00:57.33 | Kraps | holy crap, wow might copypasta environments but not terrain like that |
| 00:57.50 | bluspacecow | is this about final fantasy ? |
| 00:57.54 | Kraps | yeah |
| 00:58.41 | bluspacecow | yeah they've been bagged for that |
| 00:58.55 | bluspacecow | of course the FF faithful flame anyone that tell them different |
| 01:00.00 | Angayelle | can we throw a heal or a shield on a friendly npc ? |
| 01:00.16 | Angayelle | aint got a healer around to check that |
| 01:00.26 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 01:00.28 | bluspacecow | sometimes. |
| 01:00.33 | Xinhuan | only if the friendly npc is flagged to allow that |
| 01:00.34 | bluspacecow | not always. |
| 01:00.37 | bluspacecow | ^^ |
| 01:00.52 | Angayelle | we can on vdw |
| 01:01.05 | bluspacecow | exactly - vdw is flagged to allow it |
| 01:01.06 | Angayelle | but i beleieve we couldn't on jaina and thral back in tbc |
| 01:01.35 | Xinhuan | go walk around stormwind |
| 01:01.40 | Xinhuan | yuo'll find you can buff the city guards |
| 01:01.45 | Xinhuan | but not most of the rest |
| 01:02.02 | Angayelle | !api usable |
| 01:02.03 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'usable': PET_BAR_UPDATE_USABLE, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_USABLE, SPELL_UPDATE_USABLE, GetPetActionSlotUsable, IsUsableItem, IsUsableAction, ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_USABLE, IsUsableSpell, GetPetActionsUsable |
| 01:02.21 | Angayelle | !api IsUsableSpell |
| 01:02.21 | lua_bot | IsUsableSpell: Returns whether or not a given spell is usable or cannot be used due to lack of mana (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableSpell) |
| 01:03.03 | Xinhuan | there are more reasons why a spell can't be used apart from just mana hehe |
| 01:03.13 | Xinhuan | indoors, outdoors, flyable, reagents, etc |
| 01:03.28 | bluspacecow | *brain fart* |
| 01:03.29 | bluspacecow | whats the default port for telnet again ? |
| 01:03.34 | Xinhuan | 23 |
| 01:04.15 | bluspacecow | ty xin |
| 01:04.41 | Xinhuan | you could have googled that! |
| 01:05.07 | bluspacecow | but you're right here :D |
| 01:07.58 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=168781.4/final-fantasy-xiv-and-i-didnt-even-have-to-mention-the-lack-of-jump#p2320577 |
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| 01:09.03 | Nobgul | poke Lulia |
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| 01:10.38 | Lulia | ow |
| 01:11.56 | Nobgul | lol |
| 01:16.21 | Kraps | "As always, we appreciate the interest in Blizzard's current and upcoming games, but we don't comment on rumors or speculation and we don't have any new announcements to make. Right now we're fully focused on the upcoming launch of World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, and we're very much looking forward to celebrating that event with players around the world starting on Dec. 7." |
| 01:17.17 | Kraps | sent to wowhead and team liquid in reference to the leaked thing |
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| 01:21.21 | Kraps | lolwut http://www.blizzardnewmmo.com/Game_Info |
| 01:22.18 | Kraps | http://www.blizzmmo.com/forums |
| 01:22.26 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.50 | A-KO | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/crippen-dismissed/ |
| 01:33.19 | Nobgul | http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/CN/20101130/NEWS/11300345/Hillsborough-resident-sues-Ramapo-College-claiming-injury-in-Dorm-Olympics- |
| 01:33.21 | Nobgul | ^^ |
| 01:33.27 | Nobgul | Made me laugh |
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| 01:36.11 | Shirik | so the singing sunflower |
| 01:36.20 | A-KO | is awesome |
| 01:36.25 | Shirik | the singing definitely comes from the sunflower's owner instead of the sunflower |
| 01:36.41 | A-KO | haha |
| 01:36.48 | Wobin | so in effect, you're singing -to- the sunflower? |
| 01:37.08 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 01:37.13 | Nobgul | you sure Shirik? |
| 01:37.21 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:37.30 | Shirik | My headset is 7.1 surround sound |
| 01:37.33 | Shirik | it is very obvious |
| 01:37.42 | Shirik | had the player move just to be sure (without the sunflower moving) |
| 01:38.26 | Nobgul | Weird they would do that. |
| 01:42.29 | Nobgul | Wave files are no longer able to be used in wow addons right |
| 01:43.05 | Nobgul | poke? |
| 01:43.20 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 01:43.22 | bluspacecow | not sure |
| 01:43.32 | bluspacecow | haven't been able to pull apart the MPQs to check |
| 01:43.49 | bluspacecow | i think they got converted to .ogg |
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| 01:45.56 | Mikk | convert to mp3 & done |
| 01:46.00 | Nobgul | lol |
| 01:46.01 | Nobgul | Thanks |
| 01:46.21 | Dagmar | mp3s eat babies. Use ogg |
| 01:46.35 | Mikk | zealots are to be ignored |
| 01:46.42 | Xinhuan | both are space efficient compared to wav |
| 01:46.47 | Mikk | ^ |
| 01:46.56 | Nobgul | It's not for me. I saw addon that replaces the gun sounds in wow. And i thought they had to be .mp3 etc |
| 01:47.13 | Dagmar | One of the two doesn't have a parent company reserving the right to charge you money for thinking about their format at some undisclosed future point in time |
| 01:47.27 | bluspacecow | well |
| 01:47.43 | Dagmar | mp3 called your mother a whore! |
| 01:47.48 | bluspacecow | the other problem is i have a file on wow interface with the sound commands paths |
| 01:47.53 | Xinhuan | u can convert if that ever happens |
| 01:47.59 | Xinhuan | since they can't backcharge |
| 01:48.02 | bluspacecow | but i haven't been able to figure out pulling apart the MPQ files |
| 01:48.06 | bluspacecow | to do a new version |
| 01:48.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 01:48.33 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, you need the patch to the sounds from the newest patch? |
| 01:48.42 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 01:48.52 | Nobgul | I have the info somewhere. |
| 01:48.53 | bluspacecow | would that be in my Data folder ? |
| 01:49.04 | Xinhuan | bluspacecow, look in data\cache\sound* |
| 01:49.06 | Xinhuan | .mpqs |
| 01:49.16 | Xinhuan | your launcher should have created them |
| 01:49.30 | bluspacecow | i think i recall getting an error when trying to extract some of those. |
| 01:49.39 | Xinhuan | the "non-critical updates" basically creates some 7 gb of files in there |
| 01:49.50 | Xinhuan | those files are the cached-patched versions |
| 01:49.59 | bluspacecow | but so small ? |
| 01:50.09 | Xinhuan | 7gb isn't small? lol |
| 01:50.30 | bluspacecow | i mean compared to the files it come out of/ |
| 01:50.41 | Xinhuan | only files that got patched needs to be there |
| 01:50.54 | Xinhuan | or rather no file needs to be there, but if they are, they load faster |
| 01:51.21 | Nobgul | Ill be back raiding time. |
| 01:51.23 | bluspacecow | in other news parallels has give me a 24 day trial :) |
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| 01:52.43 | kd3 | cripes. mekkatorque has 38 million health |
| 01:52.59 | Nobgul|Raiding | did you read the changes to gamon lol |
| 01:53.41 | bluspacecow | hes epic nows |
| 01:54.14 | Utriel | cya, thx for help |
| 01:55.47 | Dagmar | kd3: C'mon, you can beat that enrage timer! |
| 02:01.02 | Kraps | epic fan service: the hot alarm hacking girl has to strip to her underwear and slather in oil to get through the vent |
| 02:01.49 | bluspacecow | where ? |
| 02:02.00 | Kraps | human target |
| 02:03.22 | Dagmar | Kraps: Wat show? |
| 02:03.42 | Kraps | human target |
| 02:04.46 | Dagmar | Episode name? I'd hate to pirate a bunch of stuff I'm not going to watch |
| 02:04.50 | Dagmar | :) |
| 02:04.55 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:05.10 | Dagmar | Actually, I'll just watch it on their site |
| 02:05.17 | Dagmar | Yay internets |
| 02:05.20 | Kraps | its a pretty good show |
| 02:05.38 | Dagmar | I was really hoping you were going to say Warehouse 13 |
| 02:06.34 | Kraps | dont think there are 25 year-olds on Warehouse 13 |
| 02:06.53 | A-KO | man I've gotta take a shit |
| 02:07.30 | Dagmar | No but there's Claudia Donovans on Warehouse 13, and I would seriously dig seeing her slatherd up in oil |
| 02:08.01 | A-KO | lol |
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| 02:19.45 | Lulia | 2 more levels before Northrend on my Warrior. Do I want to spend them in BE or Netherstorm, hmm |
| 02:19.58 | Lulia | Or SMV |
| 02:20.19 | Kraps | DAMN the show is good nw |
| 02:20.38 | Kraps | *now |
| 02:21.00 | Kraps | Lulia: Netherstorm is the most interesting IMO |
| 02:22.18 | Lulia | I like it a lot, Kraps, but I did it on the last toon I leveled |
| 02:22.23 | Lulia | I havent done SMV in awhile |
| 02:22.28 | Lulia | But I do like Nether the best |
| 02:22.33 | Jamash | I hit 68 in nagrand |
| 02:22.44 | Lulia | I ran out of quests in Nagrand |
| 02:22.50 | Lulia | But I hit Nagrand at 64 |
| 02:22.56 | Kraps | http://tvshack.cc/index.html |
| 02:22.58 | Lulia | I skipped most of Zangar |
| 02:23.01 | Lulia | And all of Hellfire |
| 02:23.16 | Lulia | I'm halfway to 67 |
| 02:23.59 | Kraps | shouldnta skipped hellfire, i like that place |
| 02:24.04 | Lulia | I don't |
| 02:24.17 | Lulia | I got more exp going from 58-60 in the Old World than Hellfire |
| 02:24.41 | Kraps | what |
| 02:43.03 | Lulia | any mods around to approve my addon update to Power Bars BETA? |
| 02:43.11 | Cairenn | no |
| 02:43.17 | Lulia | Awww |
| 02:43.25 | Lulia | hugs Cairenn. |
| 02:43.40 | Cairenn | you don't have to ask in here, we've got notifications whenever there's something in the queue |
| 02:43.47 | Cairenn | I was already on it when you asked :) |
| 02:44.06 | Lulia | Sorry! :P |
| 02:44.16 | Cairenn | just telling ya so you know :) |
| 02:44.25 | Lulia | Will a <3 make it better? |
| 02:44.34 | Cairenn | wasn't upset :) |
| 02:45.24 | Lulia | I like giving <3s anyways :D |
| 02:45.30 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 02:45.47 | Lulia | Also, I managed to get a job, I think |
| 02:45.48 | Lulia | :P |
| 02:45.59 | Cairenn | grats! |
| 02:46.09 | Lulia | Thanks :) |
| 02:47.14 | Dagmar | Jobs are overrated |
| 02:47.40 | Dagmar | You should instead opt to hang out at coffee houses and complain about people who are too lazy to work while you live off your trust fund |
| 02:48.14 | Dagmar | I didn't say it was a _good_ plan |
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| 02:49.12 | A-KO | I don't know where most people live but around here you have no chance of living completely solo w/o pulling around $65K/year unless you want to A) never go out, B) not afford cable, C) eat ramen |
| 02:49.36 | Dagmar | That bar is a bit lower in Nashville |
| 02:49.47 | Dagmar | I think you can do it for about 25-30k here |
| 02:49.57 | A-KO | Dagmar: $65K, pre-tax, pre-insurance |
| 02:49.59 | A-KO | after those 2 get at it |
| 02:50.00 | Dagmar | Probably less than 20k but I know eff all about that |
| 02:50.07 | A-KO | realistically looking at around $40-$45K |
| 02:50.24 | A-KO | Unless you've had your parents pay for everything for you |
| 02:50.34 | A-KO | paid for your school, paid for your first credit card, paid for your car/etc. |
| 02:50.38 | A-KO | pay for your cell phone |
| 02:50.40 | A-KO | I know people that do that |
| 02:50.48 | Dagmar | I do, too. |
| 02:50.49 | A-KO | they have their own spot, but their parents pay for everything else |
| 02:50.59 | Dagmar | I made one of them really mad at a coffee house yesterday. ;) |
| 02:51.02 | Mirrormn | paid for a credit card wat? |
| 02:51.06 | A-KO | lol Dagmar |
| 02:51.29 | A-KO | Mirrormn: buddy of mine (if you wish to call him that), no job, hasn't worked in about 3-4 years, uses a credit card to spend lavishly |
| 02:51.31 | A-KO | parents cover it all |
| 02:51.37 | A-KO | he bought a hand gun, buying another one soon |
| 02:51.43 | Dagmar | I very seldom really take advantage of the fact that I'm large, but I did then. :)O |
| 02:51.46 | A-KO | he's 27 |
| 02:51.54 | Dagmar | This kid got piiissed. Heh |
| 02:52.07 | Mirrormn | that's not paying for a credit card, that's just paying for... things |
| 02:52.15 | A-KO | Dagmar: A lot of those types of people overestimate their self worth |
| 02:52.37 | Dagmar | I was _almost_ hoping he'd overestimate his ability to kick my ass. :) |
| 02:52.39 | A-KO | and completely, selectively, ignore the fact that mommy and daddy helped them tremendously while they were living on a "college budget" |
| 02:53.08 | A-KO | which, if they were truly surviving on a college budget, they'd be in pretty bad shape |
| 02:53.26 | Kraps | TF2 beta is up |
| 02:53.44 | Dagmar | Kraps: 1. DIdn't we have this conversation months ago and... |
| 02:53.48 | Dagmar | 2... the beta is even old now |
| 02:53.52 | Dagmar | er older |
| 02:54.04 | Kraps | public beta? |
| 02:54.19 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 02:55.38 | Mirrormn | what the hell day is it today? |
| 02:55.41 | Mirrormn | thursday? |
| 02:55.55 | Cairenn | yes |
| 02:56.04 | Mirrormn | my consciousness is becoming disconnected from spacetime =/ |
| 02:56.06 | Cairenn | Friday in some parts of the world |
| 02:56.16 | Dagmar | Today is Sweetmorn, the 44th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3176 |
| 02:56.33 | Mirrormn | thanks Dagmar |
| 02:56.43 | Mirrormn | and Cairenn, how dare you try to trick me like that :( |
| 02:57.16 | Aurorus | It's Friday afternoon for me :) |
| 02:57.19 | Aurorus | almost 2pm |
| 02:59.08 | ajmitch | almost beer o'clock |
| 03:00.29 | Dagmar | Yeah but you guys hang from your barstools like giant fruit bats |
| 03:00.39 | Dagmar | That's no way for a man to live |
| 03:01.02 | ajmitch | how else would you prop up the bar? |
| 03:03.12 | Dagmar | Easy. You make the strippers pay a percentage instead of a flat hourly. |
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| 03:37.28 | Dagmar | lol |
| 03:39.42 | Shirik | Cide |
| 03:39.47 | Shirik | I am awesome against protoss |
| 03:40.00 | Shirik | I'm getting tons of points and I don'teven feel like it's a challenge |
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| 03:41.05 | Cide | Shirik: good! |
| 03:41.17 | Shirik | you know what's not good? |
| 03:41.19 | Shirik | You not playing as well |
| 03:41.39 | Cide | I know |
| 03:41.45 | Cide | we need to play earlier when my gf isn't sleeping |
| 03:42.12 | Cide | anyone experienced with running php on fcgi? |
| 03:42.34 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/12/02/patch-4-0-3a-hotfixes-for-dec-2/ |
| 03:45.18 | Kraps | halp something is eating my internets |
| 03:47.04 | Jerub | om nom nom nom |
| 03:48.33 | Xinhuan | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1207761041 |
| 03:48.34 | Xinhuan | errr |
| 03:48.46 | Xinhuan | can a macro like that one really let u afk |
| 03:51.15 | Cide | no |
| 03:51.37 | Dagmar | BUt... but.. the guy with the name that's about to get changed said it works on live! |
| 03:51.54 | Cide | at least it hasn't previously |
| 03:52.01 | Cide | it's not unthinkable that it's a regression though |
| 03:52.11 | Dagmar | I don't understand why the even let those people keep playing |
| 03:52.26 | Dagmar | How goddamn stupid do you have to be to think that "Pedo" is an acceptable name |
| 03:53.51 | Arrowmaster | im shocked thats not in the list of names in the clients blacklist |
| 03:54.09 | Cide | maybe it is but he's secretly with blizzard |
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| 03:55.30 | Xinhuan | anyone keen to test it out? lol |
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| 04:09.44 | Lulia | !API GetSpellCooldown |
| 04:09.58 | Lulia | !api GetSpellCooldown |
| 04:09.58 | lua_bot | GetSpellCooldown: Returns cooldown information about a spell in the spellbook (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellCooldown) |
| 04:10.28 | Lulia | Oh, hmm |
| 04:15.53 | Lulia | I think I may have at last found the reason for the errors in my predicted eclipse |
| 04:16.02 | Lulia | wooooooo |
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| 04:19.53 | Kraps | pedo without bear isnt the same |
| 04:21.11 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://lovemeow.com/2010/09/jack-tripper-the-amazing-eyeless-kitty/ |
| 04:22.00 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 04:22.49 | Lulia | hehehe |
| 04:23.10 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5704885/the-creepiest-rebirth-of-post+cataclysm-azeroth |
| 04:23.13 | Kraps | omg |
| 04:23.18 | Lulia | Oh man, he's blind? O.o |
| 04:25.28 | durcyn | lacking eyes, one would imagine that blindness ensues rather suddenly. |
| 04:27.01 | Kraps | durcyn: excellent theory |
| 04:28.35 | Jerub | i've ask a friend with no eyes if he's blind, he claims he is, but we're not sure. |
| 04:30.47 | Kraps | nice site, seems more substantial than most "omg kitty!" ones |
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| 04:41.07 | ckknight | are there any addons out there that track how long it takes me to get to certain levels, so that I can look back on it and see the data and stroke my epeen? |
| 04:41.41 | Xinhuan | a heap of them though i don't remember any now |
| 04:42.20 | Dagmar | Can't you just beat it to regular porno like everyone else? |
| 04:42.25 | Xinhuan | they do require you to have it installed since lvl 1 though, or it cannot determine how long you lvled prior to install |
| 04:42.30 | ckknight | right, Xinhuan |
| 04:42.44 | ckknight | I'm starting a new character on the 7th and don't plan on stopping for quite some time |
| 04:42.50 | ckknight | probably 40 hours or so |
| 04:43.06 | ckknight | and no, Dagmar, it no longer works for me |
| 04:43.18 | Mirrormn | I've heard it will take much much less than 40 hours to level to 85 |
| 04:43.30 | Mirrormn | unless you mean from level 1? |
| 04:43.42 | Dagmar | Man, that's pretty rough |
| 04:43.49 | Xinhuan | if i know ck well, he doesn't even have a char above lvl 50 |
| 04:43.53 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 04:44.04 | Xinhuan | DO YOU? |
| 04:44.16 | Mirrormn | why would you wait till Dec 7 to start a level 1 character? |
| 04:44.44 | Mirrormn | that important to be a goblin? |
| 04:44.48 | Dagmar | Mirrormn: The chances of successfully leveling a goblin right now are pretty crap |
| 04:44.56 | ckknight | Mirrormn: yeah, gonna make a goblin |
| 04:44.56 | Dagmar | In theory they'll go WAY up on the 7th |
| 04:44.59 | Mirrormn | yeah but you can race change |
| 04:45.06 | ckknight | but I want to experience the goblin starting zones |
| 04:45.14 | ckknight | also, I don't want to pay for a race change |
| 04:45.20 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yeah, I have two 80s |
| 04:45.23 | Mirrormn | it's only like $10 isn't it? |
| 04:45.25 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 04:45.34 | Mirrormn | or is the race change 25? |
| 04:45.36 | ckknight | Mirrormn: and why would I pay that _and_ skip out on the goblin content? |
| 04:45.45 | Dagmar | He said "level" not, "make a level 80 toon" |
| 04:45.53 | Mirrormn | aight fair enough |
| 04:46.05 | ckknight | also, I want to play a warrior |
| 04:46.05 | Dagmar | There's just shitloads of new stuff now |
| 04:46.08 | Jerub | you can do 80 in less than 5 days /played |
| 04:46.09 | Mirrormn | my drive to have a max level character as quickly as possible may be blinding me |
| 04:46.18 | Xinhuan | probably because if you're anything like most ppl here, they would have done the goblin zones in closed beta ;p |
| 04:46.18 | ckknight | I know, Dagmar, I rolled a druid on Sunday and he's lvl 32 now |
| 04:46.23 | ckknight | trollolol |
| 04:46.38 | Dagmar | ckknight: I've just been flying around meddling in things... like Thousand Needles |
| 04:46.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yeah, I did em there, but I haven't done the 20+ stuff |
| 04:46.57 | Xinhuan | but the 20+ stuff aren't goblin specific |
| 04:47.05 | Xinhuan | any race on the same faction can do them |
| 04:47.20 | ckknight | doesn't bother me |
| 04:47.21 | Dagmar | Note: If you're trying to "crack" Thousand Needles, you basically have to catch the southernmost flight point in Feralas, and run to where the old flight point was |
| 04:47.32 | Dagmar | Until you've done that they don't give a crap who you are |
| 04:47.42 | ckknight | I'm just planning on starting a goblin on the 7th, hope to get him up to 58 or so by the time I finish my stretch. |
| 04:47.58 | Jerub | ckknight: i'm thinking goblin warrior |
| 04:48.06 | Jerub | tank the shit out of some instances :) |
| 04:48.12 | ckknight | Jerub: you know it. |
| 04:48.17 | ckknight | that's totally what I'm gonna be doing |
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| 04:49.02 | Dagmar | I'm rolling druid worgen |
| 04:49.10 | ckknight | cool |
| 04:49.22 | Dagmar | I've already put word out that I'm going to be needing a lot of flea powder |
| 04:49.41 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:49.44 | Dagmar | Farming bots have been set in motion |
| 04:50.21 | ckknight | ...? |
| 04:50.24 | ckknight | don't be botting |
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| 04:50.48 | Jerub | ckknight: botting for flea powder |
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| 04:51.06 | Jerub | apart from druid, what other worgen classes are there that are worthplaying? |
| 04:51.19 | ckknight | warlock was fun in beta |
| 04:51.28 | Dagmar | I'm just basically making the assumption that worgen druids will be allowed at this point |
| 04:51.30 | Jerub | meh, i've got a lock and i don't like him :/ |
| 04:51.35 | ckknight | what do you mean by "worth playing" though? |
| 04:51.38 | ckknight | Dagmar: they will be. |
| 04:51.59 | Jerub | ckknight: tanking or healing classes. i think. |
| 04:52.03 | ckknight | ah |
| 04:52.08 | Dagmar | Jerub: Hmm... I don't see how one can not like spamming Seed of Corruption, but different strokes I guess |
| 04:52.09 | ckknight | warrior seems cool |
| 04:52.23 | ckknight | or you have priest or druid |
| 04:52.24 | ckknight | that's it |
| 04:52.33 | ckknight | warrior, priest, druid are your only choice for worgen |
| 04:52.36 | Jerub | Dagmar: you have an odd view of this game becasue you only play your 80s |
| 04:52.59 | Dagmar | Jerub: Actually no, I only rather recently got the last toon to 80 |
| 04:53.09 | Dagmar | I didn't have any problems leveling that warlock at all |
| 04:53.14 | Jerub | Dagmar: seed of corruption is a level 70 spell. |
| 04:53.25 | Dagmar | I was actually making my girlie pretty upset while she was on her paladin |
| 04:53.33 | ckknight | Dagmar: why? |
| 04:53.39 | ckknight | paladins are OP |
| 04:53.42 | Dagmar | ...cuz one of us coulnd't be killed no matter what we did, and it wasn't her. ;) |
| 04:53.52 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 04:54.00 | Dagmar | I would literally jump off a clif into the middle of a camp and kill everyone |
| 04:54.08 | Computerpunk | Mad, I sad. |
| 04:54.09 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:54.13 | Computerpunk | Man* |
| 04:54.19 | ckknight | san* |
| 04:54.19 | Computerpunk | I've been MIA for weeks, lol. |
| 04:54.24 | Dagmar | Stacking stamina when it also gives you spell-power is WAYYY overpowered |
| 04:54.28 | ckknight | how's it going, Computerpunk? |
| 04:54.30 | Computerpunk | Lol. |
| 04:54.34 | Computerpunk | Lots of IRL stuff to do. |
| 04:54.37 | Computerpunk | It's like GAAAAH. |
| 04:54.44 | Dagmar | I was running around in groups with the highest hit points and spell power |
| 04:54.44 | Computerpunk | Don't even have time to check WoW, and I'm a Guild Master. |
| 04:54.45 | Computerpunk | :/ |
| 04:55.05 | Computerpunk | And that shucks. |
| 04:55.06 | Dagmar | "Tanking is for people who can't mass-fear" |
| 04:55.25 | Computerpunk | Dagmar, tanking is for those with 24/7 max'd DR. |
| 04:56.54 | Dagmar | I'd have to get hit more than once a blue moon to have needed DR |
| 04:58.12 | Lulia | I have a question about GetSpellcastCooldown. The second variable returned should always be reliable for purposes of knowing whether or not a spell is on cd, yes? |
| 04:59.58 | ckknight | Feral Charge (Cat) always makes me think of surprise buttsecks |
| 05:00.11 | ckknight | surprise! now I'm behind you |
| 05:03.48 | Motig | I've never thought about charge like that. |
| 05:04.06 | Motig | and I'm it'll pop up next time I use it now |
| 05:04.09 | Motig | *sure |
| 05:04.26 | Motig | although wouldn't shadowstep fit that description better? |
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| 05:05.52 | Lulia | Does no one know? |
| 05:07.17 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhsMjDyVylE&feature=related |
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| 05:13.55 | Lulia1 | Wow... this makes no sense logically... |
| 05:17.07 | Lulia1 | http://www.pastey.net/143561 |
| 05:17.13 | Lulia1 | And then... |
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| 05:17.55 | Lulia1 | This is some output into my AddOn's message console: http://www.pastey.net/143562 |
| 05:18.30 | Lulia1 | According to that output, I have a spell named Starsurge in the table and its action is set to "Casted" at the time when a spell named Starsurge hits the target and causes damage. |
| 05:18.48 | Lulia1 | Yet my addon, for no explicable reason, reports back that the damage spell isn't in the queue |
| 05:19.08 | Lulia1 | When, according to the logic of the code I just pasted, that shouldn't ever happen. It should be impossible. |
| 05:19.28 | Mirrormn | I love it when impossible things happen |
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| 05:22.30 | ckknight | you lost your virginity, Mirrormn? way to go! |
| 05:23.04 | smcn | boom. |
| 05:24.04 | Mirrormn | that's hateful :( |
| 05:25.59 | Lulia | It completely boggles my mind. |
| 05:29.58 | Dagmar | I wonder how much he paid. |
| 05:34.04 | ckknight | Mirrormn: you're misconstruing mischievousness with hate |
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| 05:36.17 | Lulia | I mean, looking at that code, does anyone see how it might be possible? Because I don't see it... |
| 05:38.33 | Mirrormn | well, my strategy when I can't figure something out is to go get some fast food |
| 05:38.42 | Mirrormn | and usually I've had an epiphany by the time I return |
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| 05:42.23 | Lulia | But it doesn't make any logical sense :( |
| 05:43.01 | Mirrormn | well you can pretty much gaurantee it makes logical sense somehow |
| 05:43.12 | Mirrormn | you just can't see all the angles right now |
| 05:43.31 | Dagmar | Ooo... I found someone's lube http://wins.failblog.org/2010/12/02/epic-win-photos-sexual-chemical-win/ |
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| 05:46.09 | Kraps | holy crap Saboteur FTW |
| 05:47.28 | Kraps | also http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1316152#blog |
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| 06:01.46 | Shirik | Dear god |
| 06:01.52 | Shirik | Why does anyone like UNIX sockets? |
| 06:01.54 | Mirrormn | it's full of stars |
| 06:02.13 | Mirrormn | people like UNIX sockets? |
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| 06:13.10 | cogwheel | hooray for another 6mbps download speed (and only 500kbps more upload QQ) |
| 06:14.40 | airtonix | moar please |
| 06:15.23 | cogwheel | i'm at 24/1.5 now |
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| 06:17.42 | cogwheel | i'd be happier with 15/3, probably... |
| 06:17.50 | TC-Away | 12/1.5 for me |
| 06:17.53 | cogwheel | really wish they let us choose our ratio |
| 06:18.14 | airtonix | can't you just use your own torrent client ? |
| 06:18.40 | Noctys | Quick question, been out of modding for a few years. What's the best way to make menu options now? |
| 06:18.42 | cogwheel | airtonix: it takes an hour to upload a 15-min youtube vid at 720p |
| 06:19.03 | airtonix | ok |
| 06:19.48 | cogwheel | premiere can software encode in essentially realtime on my i7 laptop... |
| 06:20.08 | Mirrormn | 768k upload bwaaaaah |
| 06:20.09 | airtonix | do you have enough lube for that ? |
| 06:20.35 | Mirrormn | no :( |
| 06:20.42 | Mirrormn | no amount of lube makes my upload bearable |
| 06:20.47 | airtonix | then be gone peasant |
| 06:21.00 | Mirrormn | I've got a lot of data to force into a very small pipe |
| 06:21.04 | Mirrormn | IFUNOWATIMEAN |
| 06:21.10 | airtonix | kinky |
| 06:21.24 | airtonix | but you definitely need lube |
| 06:21.33 | cogwheel | Noctys: little more specific? |
| 06:22.22 | Noctys | Wanting to make a menu (very basic) that shows up in the AddOns menu that is now built into WoW. What's the best way to approach that? |
| 06:22.52 | airtonix | with a keyboard |
| 06:22.56 | bluspacecow | not sure have you dissected some addons that do it ? |
| 06:23.06 | bluspacecow | @airtonix actually I would say with a mullett |
| 06:23.19 | bluspacecow | *mallet |
| 06:23.19 | Mirrormn | AceConfigDialog-3.0 is a pretty easy way to do it |
| 06:23.31 | Noctys | That's what I am doing now... Just figured I'd ask in here as well. |
| 06:24.08 | Noctys | Thanks Mirrormn, I'll take a look at that |
| 06:24.24 | Mirrormn | you can basically use AceConfigDialog or you can use the bare interface options API, I don't know of anything else other than that |
| 06:24.25 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/api/ace-config-dialog-3-0/ |
| 06:25.02 | Mirrormn | AceConfigDialog is a little touchy but once you understand it, it can be very fast and simple to do configurations |
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| 06:25.35 | Noctys | cool, thanks! |
| 06:25.42 | Mirrormn | and even more importantly, http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-config-3-0-options-tables/ |
| 06:25.59 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 06:26.12 | cogwheel | shakes his fist at his web host |
| 06:26.13 | bluspacecow | your api-fu is stronger then mine *eyebrow waggle/* |
| 06:26.20 | cogwheel | their dns servers are fubar |
| 06:27.14 | Mirrormn | I've spent quite a lot of time reading that page ^_^ |
| 06:27.51 | Mirrormn | pro-tip: clever use of the hidden function can make your configurations very dynamic |
| 06:28.31 | Noctys | Yup -- that was the page I was looking for. Looks like my simple addon is going to become quite a bit more complex. =) |
| 06:29.07 | airtonix | no |
| 06:29.11 | airtonix | i forbid it |
| 06:29.40 | Mirrormn | I've actually done quite a lot of messing around with aceconfigdialog, trying to get it to bend and twist to perform various strange things |
| 06:29.54 | airtonix | did it protest ? |
| 06:30.00 | Mirrormn | at this point I probably would have been better off coding my own comprehensive solution but *shrug* there ya go |
| 06:30.01 | airtonix | you should of used lube |
| 06:30.06 | Mirrormn | and yes, it protested ^_^ |
| 06:31.13 | Mirrormn | *should have |
| 06:31.23 | Mirrormn | grammatical ignoramus =S |
| 06:31.30 | airtonix | ok Grammar Nazi |
| 06:31.34 | Mirrormn | <3 |
| 06:31.46 | ckknight | btw, Mirrormn, when all else fails, use more lube. |
| 06:31.48 | ckknight | that's my policy |
| 06:32.46 | airtonix | shuvak! |
| 06:32.47 | Mirrormn | I am gonna switch airtonix's His and Her lube for an A/B epoxy adhesive |
| 06:33.20 | Mirrormn | that would be quite a predicament O.o |
| 06:33.33 | Noctys | Is that a valid reason to call out sick to work? |
| 06:33.34 | Mirrormn | (if he ever actually had sex with anyone) |
| 06:33.53 | Mirrormn | if your private parts are chemically bonded with someone else's? yes, probably |
| 06:34.09 | airtonix | Ho ho |
| 06:34.25 | Noctys | Do you explain what happened... Or just call it a medical problem. |
| 06:34.50 | Mirrormn | "I'm in a very sticky situation and I can't come in to work today" |
| 06:34.54 | Mirrormn | is what you would say |
| 06:35.01 | airtonix | I would say |
| 06:35.05 | airtonix | she needs me |
| 06:35.40 | Mirrormn | then you are a comedic ignoramus as well |
| 06:35.45 | Mirrormn | the pun basically writes itself! |
| 06:35.47 | airtonix | :) |
| 06:35.51 | Mirrormn | how can you not go for that! |
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| 07:02.57 | ckknight | Noctys: it's a completely valid reason to not come to work |
| 07:03.01 | ckknight | imo |
| 07:03.10 | ckknight | although I'd be pretty blunt about what happened |
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| 07:03.19 | ckknight | it's too likely that the truth would come out eventually |
| 07:03.52 | ckknight | so just be upfront about gluing your balls to someone else's |
| 07:03.56 | ckknight | best solution long-term |
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| 07:30.04 | Noctys | I'm seeing this inside a mod: local name, uClock = ... <-- What does = ... do? |
| 07:30.26 | zenzio | where in the code is that, inside a function? |
| 07:30.39 | Noctys | No, declaring variables |
| 07:30.55 | Noctys | next line down: LibStub("LibDataBroker-1.1"):NewDataObject(name, uClock) |
| 07:31.24 | cbreak_work | Noctys: it assigns values from varargs to name and uClock locals |
| 07:31.26 | Adys | Noctys: if inside a function, "..." stands for an optional list of remaining arguments |
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| 07:31.34 | zenzio | if I remember correctly (and that's a big "if"...), then it's info about your addon that WoW passes on to you during your loading process |
| 07:31.50 | cbreak_work | Adys: not only inside functions :) |
| 07:31.57 | Adys | well yeah cbreak |
| 07:32.24 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 07:32.25 | Adys | if at the root level of the addon, blizzard assigns it specifically as zenzio said an addon-level table and the addon name |
| 07:32.37 | Fisker | then i woke up with cramps in my leg |
| 07:32.45 | Adys | Noctys: can you paste the code? (use paste2.org or something |
| 07:32.54 | airtonix | Fisker, you should stop raping animals. |
| 07:32.55 | Iriel | Indeed |
| 07:33.03 | Noctys | Interesting, thanks! |
| 07:33.07 | Iriel | At the FILE level, ... is a reference to the arguments passed when the file is executed |
| 07:33.09 | Fisker | naw airtonix |
| 07:33.11 | Iriel | right now there are 2 of them |
| 07:33.12 | Adys | Fisker: I once slept with a guy, and then I woke up with your legs in my cramp |
| 07:33.22 | airtonix | balls are touching!!! |
| 07:33.23 | Iriel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127130093 |
| 07:33.30 | Noctys | What you said works. I can post it if you want. |
| 07:33.32 | Iriel | Since people kept asking, I put it in a forum sticky! |
| 07:33.43 | Adys | Iriel: You are on FIRE! |
| 07:33.48 | airtonix | Fisker, GOGOGOGO! glue adys to himself! |
| 07:33.59 | Adys | just don't glue the balls |
| 07:34.03 | zenzio | Iriel: neat =) |
| 07:34.53 | Adys | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1207761232 |
| 07:34.56 | Adys | can someone reply to this |
| 07:35.10 | airtonix | sorry |
| 07:35.34 | Adys | tell the guy that it only works for the new quest bosses because blizz didnt flag most of the old one; and ONLY on actual named bosses, not just any Wild Wolf or some shit |
| 07:35.44 | airtonix | tell fisker to do it |
| 07:35.54 | Adys | FISKER STOP TOUCHING MY BALLS AND DO IT |
| 07:36.01 | airtonix | ohhh baby |
| 07:36.08 | Adys | are you getting off on that? |
| 07:36.09 | Adys | perv |
| 07:36.10 | airtonix | squirts lube |
| 07:36.38 | Fisker | i'm not us |
| 07:36.38 | Fisker | jerk |
| 07:36.45 | airtonix | awww |
| 07:36.55 | airtonix | that's unfortunate |
| 07:37.04 | airtonix | you are no longer of any use to me |
| 07:38.26 | Fisker | lol wat |
| 07:39.10 | Fisker | some 11 year old killed himself by going under those railroad bars |
| 07:39.19 | Fisker | (he was killed by a train of course) |
| 07:39.27 | airtonix | who would of guessed |
| 07:39.34 | Fisker | could've been a ship airtonix |
| 07:39.40 | airtonix | true |
| 07:39.54 | airtonix | why didn't i think of that |
| 07:39.59 | Dagmar | That's what happens when you ignore the Laws of Physics |
| 07:40.15 | airtonix | was he using LSD |
| 07:40.15 | Fisker | well he was going to school with his grandparents |
| 07:40.20 | airtonix | same thing then |
| 07:40.29 | Fisker | apparently they didn't find any reason to warn about going onto the train tracks? |
| 07:40.39 | airtonix | too much lsd? |
| 07:40.48 | Corrodias | why would you need to warn about it? |
| 07:40.58 | airtonix | true |
| 07:41.03 | Corrodias | the gate comes down, the lights flash red, and there's a train coming that's blowing a rather loud horn |
| 07:41.04 | airtonix | natural selection |
| 07:41.15 | Corrodias | it's hard to miss these clues, i think |
| 07:41.25 | airtonix | Corrodias, guess they had a hard on for darwin |
| 07:41.43 | Corrodias | let's blame it on superhero movies |
| 07:42.12 | airtonix | like the new one ? |
| 07:42.48 | Corrodias | sure, there's always a new one, so whatever that one is |
| 07:42.53 | airtonix | ok |
| 07:50.20 | Corrodias | sleeps |
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| 08:10.18 | zenzio | "Crafty players again found a way to catch Cataclysm fish. Crafty designers have made this impossible without a Cataclysm key attached to a playerâs account." |
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| 08:11.42 | Dagmar | ULdum is a freaking LOOT TEASE |
| 08:12.34 | Dagmar | I was down there last night just wandering around and I see this tunnel, so I go in and it's all different and stuff and then I start seeing these pale Earthen guys and at the end of the hall is a big _box_ with a gold "!" over it... |
| 08:12.58 | Dagmar | I got all excited and as I get to about 50 yards from it *LOADING* I'm back at the start of the tunnel |
| 08:13.05 | Dagmar | SOoooo mean |
| 08:13.27 | zenzio | lol |
| 08:13.44 | Dagmar | I'm keepin an 80 camped there and when the servers come up on the 7th I am *so* ninjaing that shit |
| 08:14.00 | zenzio | that's when you'll see it's all a mirage |
| 08:14.28 | Dagmar | Yeah if that floor in front of it turns out to be some kinda pit trap I'll be breaking out my angry face |
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| 08:15.40 | Dagmar | It's one thing to see some closed gates and get teleported back from them, but that looked like a _loot chest_ and it was just sittin' there out in the open with no one watchin' it |
| 08:16.19 | Dagmar | Don't they know someone could _steal_ that? |
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| 08:28.08 | Adys | Any winer who plays sc2? kd3? |
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| 08:30.30 | Mirrormn | why would you wanna talk to a whiner |
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| 08:36.55 | Fisker | my graphics card drivers can't rdp |
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| 08:57.36 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:57.52 | Kalroth | Thank you, massa. Can I have another one. |
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| 09:07.23 | airtonix | no |
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| 09:21.21 | Primer | This "dead zone" that I can't click through has returned |
| 09:23.08 | airtonix | yes |
| 09:23.08 | Primer | It seems to appear after being logged into a character for a while |
| 09:23.15 | Primer | and /framestack doesn't show anything |
| 09:23.15 | airtonix | i am holding it hostage |
| 09:25.31 | jnwhiteh | do /dump GetMouseFocus() |
| 09:25.52 | Primer | I've relogged since, and it's gone now, but I'll remember that next time. Thanks |
| 09:26.53 | airtonix | i was gracious this time |
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| 09:51.10 | Adys | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email |
| 09:53.43 | Adys | Props to anyone who can honestly tell they haven't had ALL of them at least once. |
| 09:55.40 | Fisker | looks like Blizzard will be able to restart their real id strategy on the forums |
| 09:55.45 | Fisker | in a couple of weeks |
| 09:56.15 | cbreak_work | morrons. |
| 09:56.44 | cog|sleep | Adys: they're even to Matthew... |
| 09:56.51 | Adys | cog|sleep: :P |
| 09:56.52 | cog|sleep | is disqualified |
| 09:57.06 | Fisker | looking forward to it cog|sleep ? |
| 09:57.16 | Fisker | http://kotaku.com/5704983/apple-borrows-blizzards-biggest-blunder <-btw that's why |
| 09:59.08 | airtonix | Fisker, I don't remember giving you shore leave. |
| 09:59.25 | Arrowmaster | Adys: never seen the last one, ever |
| 09:59.37 | Adys | awwwwww |
| 09:59.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster no makey gurgle burble cutie face |
| 09:59.50 | cbreak_work | Fisker: I think apple wants to copy facebook with that thing |
| 10:00.22 | Arrowmaster | when i use an email client, its always set to plain text only mode and not html, when i use gmail it makes be click first before any images are displayed |
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| 10:03.36 | Fisker | so wat cbreak ? |
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| 10:06.00 | Fisker | slaps cbreak_work around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:07.38 | unfo- | you must smell awfully bad carrying around a large trout all the time. |
| 10:08.31 | Fisker | who says i'm carrying it around? |
| 10:10.17 | unfo- | how would you otherwise accomplish the slap? |
| 10:12.43 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv-7WdpB72o&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:13.00 | Wobin | MATISYAHU ON ICE =P |
| 10:14.26 | Fisker | summoning unfo- |
| 10:18.33 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/kitty_pet |
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| 10:30.08 | Fisker | slaps Bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:30.54 | Bluspacecow | \o |
| 10:30.55 | airtonix | Fisker, there is no trout |
| 10:30.59 | Bluspacecow | I r @ work. |
| 10:31.01 | Bluspacecow | :( |
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| 10:35.14 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:35.19 | Fisker | I r @ work. |
| 10:35.26 | Fisker | as well Bluspacecow |
| 10:35.32 | airtonix | are you a fishmonger? |
| 10:35.41 | airtonix | or are you a fish? |
| 10:36.09 | airtonix | hoho |
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| 10:38.05 | Bluspacecow | lolz |
| 10:38.10 | Bluspacecow | nah im noise control. |
| 10:38.34 | airtonix | SILENCE! |
| 10:38.42 | airtonix | i was talking to the norwegian |
| 10:38.57 | airtonix | geddit? |
| 10:38.59 | Fisker | haste ? |
| 10:39.56 | Bluspacecow | :( |
| 10:40.02 | Bluspacecow | fiskers not norwegian |
| 10:40.06 | Bluspacecow | hes an alien |
| 10:40.13 | Bluspacecow | he once killed a man |
| 10:40.23 | Bluspacecow | and the man's pet fish |
| 10:42.08 | airtonix | talking trout aye? |
| 10:42.15 | airtonix | james pond? |
| 10:42.35 | Bluspacecow | ! |
| 10:42.37 | Bluspacecow | dood |
| 10:42.41 | Bluspacecow | that games a classic |
| 10:46.13 | msoul | hm |
| 10:46.34 | msoul | didn't play my lock for a while and now I notice I can't ctrl-1 to have my pet attack/follow etc |
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| 10:46.45 | msoul | they did change something that I missed reading |
| 10:46.53 | msoul | checked my keybinding as well |
| 10:47.01 | msoul | none of my commands to the pet works |
| 10:47.38 | airtonix | if in doubt |
| 10:47.41 | airtonix | throw it out |
| 10:48.07 | msoul | :( |
| 10:48.38 | greppy | msoul: no idea what your fix may be, but it still works for me, or at least did a day or so ago, but I use dominos, not the standard ui. |
| 10:49.16 | msoul | greppy I'll end up using one of the actionbars addons it seems yeah |
| 10:49.23 | msoul | weird, used to work just fine |
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| 11:04.39 | beerpages | Kostenlose mini Homepages für Umfragen, Videos und vielem mehr auf www.beerpages.de - Beispiel: http://www.beerpages.de/view/1P/Magst%20du%20%C3%84pfel%3F |
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| 11:09.06 | Legorol | oooh cog|sleep, you devil.. lots of Minecraft videos suddenly |
| 11:10.42 | jnwhiteh | I should make my minecraft server public for wowuidev |
| 11:10.52 | jnwhiteh | but it might hose wowprogramming.com =) |
| 11:11.35 | Bluspacecow | uploading youtube videos in his sleep ! |
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| 11:18.31 | jnwhiteh | cog|sleep: Keep in mind that you can always use wood (planks are more efficient than blocks) to fuel a furnace. That lets you create glass even when you're low on coal! |
| 11:19.15 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: i'd been thinking about that for a while, would be nice to have a minecraft server |
| 11:19.26 | Legorol | sadly i don't have any hosting options, but if there was one, i'd play on it for sure |
| 11:19.36 | Legorol | as long as it has mobs turned on ^^ |
| 11:19.39 | jnwhiteh | I'll take care of it this week |
| 11:19.41 | jnwhiteh | mobs always on |
| 11:19.43 | jnwhiteh | survival mode ftw |
| 11:19.46 | Legorol | exactly |
| 11:19.50 | Legorol | wow, that'd be so awesome |
| 11:20.04 | Legorol | i am seeing though that minecraft server is surprisingly hungry |
| 11:20.08 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 11:20.28 | Legorol | didn't expect the kind of resource requirements you need for as few as 30 people |
| 11:20.31 | jnwhiteh | if anyone can help me expose a port on a tunnelled machine via an external interface ,I can put my server up now. |
| 11:20.49 | Legorol | ssh tunneling? would that work? |
| 11:21.13 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 11:21.17 | jnwhiteh | its just a bit tricky |
| 11:21.19 | jnwhiteh | lemme do that again quick |
| 11:21.43 | Legorol | imo ssh tunneling is pretty straightforward usually, whenever i tried it worked nice |
| 11:22.09 | jnwhiteh | yeah it works fine if you do everythign by localhost |
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| 11:22.17 | jnwhiteh | once you try and use an external ip, it gets tricker =) |
| 11:22.31 | Wobin | just made his first successful water ladder |
| 11:22.37 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 11:23.04 | Wobin | It allows you to climb ridiculous heights at a decent speed |
| 11:23.06 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:23.10 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: how? |
| 11:23.15 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: could you describe the scenario a bit better? do you have the server (machine A) sitting behind another machine B, with B having the public interface? |
| 11:23.18 | Legorol | or how are they related? |
| 11:23.19 | Wobin | basically if you drill straight down to bedrock, it takes you 22 seconds or so to get back to the top |
| 11:23.25 | jnwhiteh | machine A runs the server |
| 11:23.37 | jnwhiteh | wowforge.com can tunnel to machine A |
| 11:23.47 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-L9qLhj5cI is the simplest I've seen |
| 11:23.48 | jnwhiteh | but it needs to expose the tunneled port via its external interface |
| 11:23.58 | jnwhiteh | so my client can connect to wowforge.com |
| 11:24.01 | Legorol | ok, gotcha |
| 11:24.06 | Legorol | let me think on that for a minute |
| 11:24.17 | Legorol | i'm pretty sure that's doable with ssh |
| 11:24.21 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:24.26 | jnwhiteh | i just haven't figured out exactly how |
| 11:24.32 | jnwhiteh | I can do normal tunneling |
| 11:24.41 | jnwhiteh | its allowing wowforge.com:portnum to get to Machine A that's the issue |
| 11:24.49 | jnwhiteh | call them 'office 'and 'wowforge' to be clear :P |
| 11:25.22 | Legorol | ok, you want option -L |
| 11:25.28 | jnwhiteh | that binds to localhost |
| 11:25.39 | Legorol | you can specify a bind-address afaik |
| 11:25.40 | Legorol | -L [bind_address:]port:host:hostport |
| 11:25.45 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't work :P |
| 11:25.57 | Legorol | hmm |
| 11:26.34 | jnwhiteh | maybe if I'm root |
| 11:26.35 | jnwhiteh | ponders |
| 11:26.41 | Legorol | ok, just to doublecheck: you are connecting *from* wowforge *to* office using ssh, and when you use -L it doesn't work |
| 11:26.46 | jnwhiteh | and by ponder, I of course mean test |
| 11:27.12 | Legorol | i don't know much about permissions so i don't know who'd have the right to open a listening port |
| 11:27.35 | jnwhiteh | works if I'm root. |
| 11:27.39 | jnwhiteh | so there we go =) |
| 11:27.43 | jnwhiteh | lemme disable root. |
| 11:27.50 | jnwhiteh | and test again |
| 11:28.14 | Legorol | this might be relevant too: |
| 11:28.15 | Legorol | The |
| 11:28.15 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.15 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.15 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.33 | jnwhiteh | no I know all the switches |
| 11:28.35 | Legorol | ok |
| 11:28.38 | jnwhiteh | and its working now |
| 11:28.39 | jnwhiteh | so alright |
| 11:28.45 | jnwhiteh | you can hop onto my server at wowforge.com |
| 11:28.45 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:28.50 | Legorol | port? |
| 11:28.54 | Legorol | standard? |
| 11:28.56 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 11:28.58 | Legorol | weee |
| 11:29.03 | Legorol | let's chekeeet out |
| 11:29.23 | jnwhiteh | lemme know when you're on :P |
| 11:29.31 | jnwhiteh | nvm server wil tell me :P |
| 11:29.34 | Legorol | what server version are you running? did you update to 0.2.7? |
| 11:29.44 | jnwhiteh | its the latest version |
| 11:29.48 | Legorol | and i hope you are not running any crazy mods.. id on't like many of the mods out there |
| 11:30.00 | jnwhiteh | no mods |
| 11:30.26 | Legorol | I'm on |
| 11:30.34 | Legorol | damn, night |
| 11:30.50 | jnwhiteh | how the hell do you chat? |
| 11:30.51 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 11:32.50 | Kalroth | you're chatting right now, jnwhiteh !! |
| 11:32.56 | Kalroth | sheesh, some people are so silly |
| 11:32.57 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 11:36.48 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: back up |
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| 11:43.43 | jnwhiteh | anyone else who wants to join in, feel free |
| 11:44.10 | Fisker | now back at me |
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| 11:48.11 | Arrowmaster | how the hell do you chat in minecraft |
| 11:49.05 | jnwhiteh | t |
| 11:49.13 | Fisker | whine in say_team |
| 11:49.17 | Bluspacecow | you type words on your keyboard |
| 11:52.06 | Bluspacecow | @jnwhite lalalalalalalalalallalalala |
| 11:52.10 | Bluspacecow | or wait |
| 11:52.15 | Bluspacecow | you don't mean singing :p |
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| 12:23.45 | harl | hi |
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| 12:39.34 | DDR2 | hello! |
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| 12:41.11 | DDR2 | i have an idea for a useful addon that doesn't exist yet, but lack the experience to make it myself - where do you nice people think i should propose it? |
| 12:42.47 | solo|work | probably the addon requests section of the forum on curse/curseforge/wowace |
| 12:43.00 | DDR2 | which of the three? |
| 12:44.18 | DDR2 | also there doesn't seem to be such a forum on curse |
| 12:45.04 | Computerpunk | DDR2, we're still open to suggestions, but posting there means a higher chance of getting it done. |
| 12:45.24 | Computerpunk | Curse.com, iirc, doesn't have one. Only Development ones. CurseForge.com or WoWAce.com. Or WoWProgramming.com. ;D |
| 12:45.32 | Computerpunk | Try your luck even on Retail forums. |
| 12:45.46 | DDR2 | can't see one on curseforge either... |
| 12:46.09 | Computerpunk | mmm? |
| 12:46.20 | DDR2 | not a dedicated forum to addon suggestions, that is |
| 12:46.24 | Computerpunk | http://forums.curseforge.com/forumdisplay.php?f=74 |
| 12:46.26 | Computerpunk | You sure? |
| 12:46.57 | DDR2 | ah, for some reason my eye didn't catch that one |
| 12:47.02 | Computerpunk | :p |
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| 12:48.24 | DDR2 | if i wanted to make it myself, having some experience on different languages but lacking any kind of experience whatsoever in LUA or WoW's API, how hard could it be to learn and make it? |
| 12:49.57 | solo|work | That's how I started, but my addons are pretty simple. how complex is your idea? |
| 12:50.28 | sylvanaar_work | Lua |
| 12:52.11 | DDR2 | well nothing mystic.. just a chat filter for public channels working on a whitelist basis |
| 12:53.10 | DDR2 | as in, hiding anything that doesn't match my expressions |
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| 12:54.11 | Arrowmaster | i doubt many others would use something like that |
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| 12:54.27 | Arrowmaster | so the chances of somebody else making it for you are rather low |
| 12:54.27 | DDR2 | depending on how full of trolls your realm is |
| 12:54.28 | solo|work | Probably wouldn't be too hard to do, you might look at spamsentry or a similar addon for an idea of where to start on that |
| 12:54.43 | DDR2 | mine, for instance, is a nightmare |
| 12:55.05 | Arrowmaster | @search badboy |
| 12:55.06 | Repo | Arrowmaster: There were no matching configuration variables. |
| 12:55.10 | solo|work | I'm pretty sure something like that exists already if that's all your looking for. |
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| 12:55.35 | solo|work | but curseforge/wowace don't allow server-specific addons so you might not be able to find it easily |
| 12:56.32 | Arrowmaster | @describe badboy_ccleaner |
| 12:56.33 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/badboy_ccleaner/. BadBoy_CCleaner: Filter Crap From Chat. Filter crap from your chat. |
| 12:57.09 | Bluspacecow | @describe what i'm wearing |
| 12:57.10 | Repo | Bluspacecow: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/project-21179/. quick lvquick lvll. fast lvl with awsome helping |
| 12:57.17 | Bluspacecow | -_- |
| 12:57.21 | solo|work | lawl |
| 12:57.52 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: where the hell does the bot get the description from? |
| 12:57.53 | DDR2 | solo|work, i've been browsing all curse's chat section for addons before coming here |
| 12:58.34 | DDR2 | closest thing i could find is an addon that blacklists, which is the opposite of what i want |
| 12:59.37 | Arrowmaster | you could try modifying the blacklist addon into a whitelist |
| 13:00.21 | DDR2 | thought about that, but i'm not confident enough with the language yet |
| 13:02.22 | DDR2 | maybe i should really start doing it on my own, if not else to get a grasp of it |
| 13:02.33 | DDR2 | any pointers on where could i start learning? |
| 13:03.17 | Arrowmaster | ~pil |
| 13:03.17 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 13:03.49 | DDR2 | maybe that's a tad too much. |
| 13:04.09 | solo|work | wowprogramming.com and http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization are good references to use |
| 13:04.10 | Arrowmaster | if you have previous programming experience then reading the online version of that will get you familiar with Lua syntax |
| 13:04.37 | DDR2 | alright, then where do i get a "starter kit"? |
| 13:04.55 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 13:04.55 | purl | hmm... wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 13:05.08 | Arrowmaster | that book is as close to a 'starter kit' as there is i think |
| 13:05.20 | Arrowmaster | but its a book, and not free |
| 13:05.34 | DDR2 | i see, not exactly what i was looking for |
| 13:05.50 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:06.09 | Fisker | slapped over rdp |
| 13:06.10 | Arrowmaster | read http://www.lua.org/pil then look at addons that do similar to what you want to do and figure out how they work |
| 13:06.12 | DDR2 | so as an API reference there's wowpedia |
| 13:06.32 | Arrowmaster | wowprogramming has a better API reference |
| 13:07.00 | DDR2 | hmm that's a nice one |
| 13:08.14 | DDR2 | now another question |
| 13:08.23 | DDR2 | do you use any tools for programming? |
| 13:08.42 | Arrowmaster | a text editor |
| 13:08.55 | DDR2 | including but not limited to, if there is such a thing, an interpreter for WoW APIs to avoid restarting the game every time i forget a semicolon |
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| 13:09.12 | DDR2 | like a.. "check if this would work" tool |
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| 13:09.35 | solo|work | not really but you can /reloadui in-game to test updated code |
| 13:09.47 | Arrowmaster | 1) alt tab and do /reload 2) semicolons are useless cruft in Lua, you dont need them |
| 13:10.04 | DDR2 | aren't you supposed to restart the whole client every time you poke with addons? well that's good news :) |
| 13:10.25 | Arrowmaster | only if you add files or change an addons .toc |
| 13:10.37 | DDR2 | know what, i wonder if eclipse has a plugin for WoW... |
| 13:10.42 | Bluspacecow | what time does the servers go live for Cata in the EU ? |
| 13:11.12 | DDR2 | luaeclipse.. i knew it :D |
| 13:11.36 | solo|work | I use notepad++ but eclipse works too :O |
| 13:11.48 | TMc51 | Bluespacecow: I think they go live at 12:00 PST for every location, so probably around 8am or so on the 8th for you guys. |
| 13:11.57 | Bluspacecow | kk |
| 13:12.25 | DDR2 | eclipse is a drug, you basically refuse to code on anything else once you get used to it |
| 13:12.41 | DDR2 | (unless you're shell scripting, but that's another business) |
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| 13:19.09 | aualin | My FPS actually increases if i switch from having low envoirmental detail to ultra |
| 13:19.32 | Nobgul | Hehe |
| 13:19.42 | Nobgul | Mine went up 40000% yesterday =P |
| 13:20.08 | aualin | Nice |
| 13:20.13 | Nobgul | TMc51, If your arround chhers for the advise on the vid card it's great. |
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| 13:23.42 | sylvanaar_work | somone needs to write a Lua plugin for Netbeans |
| 13:23.47 | Bluspacecow | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/11/double-secret-reverse-psychology/ |
| 13:24.16 | Nobgul | lol Bluspacecow, I just read that |
| 13:24.35 | Bluspacecow | lolz we think alike ? |
| 13:28.16 | Nobgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.24 | Nobgul | It was part of my mroning rounds. |
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| 13:29.24 | Nobgul | haven't come across anything else good this morning. |
| 13:30.35 | Bluspacecow | mooning rounds ? |
| 13:30.37 | Bluspacecow | XD |
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| 13:31.45 | Nobgul | Yer aound the interwebs =P |
| 13:31.50 | Monocle | Hello. |
| 13:31.53 | Nobgul | ohhh 0_o |
| 13:31.56 | Nobgul | hello Monocle |
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| 13:32.16 | Monocle | How are you today? |
| 13:32.22 | Nobgul | I am good and yourself? |
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| 13:33.21 | Monocle | I am okay; kind of tired at the moment. |
| 13:33.40 | Nobgul | Eh it happens. You will have enough time to sleep when your dead =P |
| 13:35.13 | Monocle | This is true. |
| 13:35.23 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:36.11 | Nobgul | Lulia! |
| 13:36.25 | Lulia | Hey, Nobgul. |
| 13:36.29 | Nobgul | Pokes Lulia in the eye! |
| 13:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 13:36.44 | Lulia | falls over writhing, squirming, and holding his eye. |
| 13:36.48 | Nobgul | lol |
| 13:36.57 | Nobgul | sup Lopeppeppy =) |
| 13:37.01 | Monocle | D: |
| 13:37.05 | Nobgul | Lulia, Druid hotfix The proc buff from the talent Shooting Stars should no longer be consumed without providing its benefits if the druid is already casting Starsurge. |
| 13:37.16 | Nobgul | Woot! |
| 13:37.25 | Lulia | Ugh |
| 13:37.30 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 13:37.32 | Lulia | Now I have to rework stuff |
| 13:37.38 | Nobgul | I know =( |
| 13:37.49 | Adys | Shirik |
| 13:37.50 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r1hz08wZrk |
| 13:37.55 | Adys | Your place is on fire |
| 13:38.00 | Nobgul | I blame Monocle |
| 13:38.04 | Lulia | Hi, Peppy. |
| 13:38.32 | Monocle | Wait, wha-? |
| 13:38.40 | Monocle | WHY AM I BEING BLAMED? :c |
| 13:39.00 | Nobgul | Monocle, We have to blame someone. And we all know blizzard isn't the best at taking blame =P |
| 13:39.29 | Nobgul | And as a side note Lulia, I reported that bug on the beta 4 times. And they never fixed it =P |
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| 13:39.46 | Lulia | Heh |
| 13:39.52 | Monocle | I will take the blame for Blizzard. |
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| 13:39.56 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 13:40.02 | Lulia | I noticed it on the PTR but I figured it was one of those things they were never likely to fix. |
| 13:40.02 | Monocle | Hello. |
| 13:40.04 | Nobgul | oh hai |
| 13:40.39 | Lulia | It shouldn't be too hard to fix for my addon. The major thing is that apparently Shooting Stars with Starsurge is something that's causing minor bugs in my addon |
| 13:41.05 | Angayelle | i was wondering if there was a way to erase info in the layout-local.txt with api ? |
| 13:41.25 | Angayelle | to force window reset position |
| 13:41.37 | Nobgul | Angayelle, If it is in the saved var file yes. Otherwise no. |
| 13:41.43 | mitch0 | phew, html4.01 strict valid |
| 13:41.49 | Nobgul | Oh umm |
| 13:42.07 | Nobgul | Nvm |
| 13:42.47 | Nobgul | Crafty players again found a way to catch Cataclysm fish. Crafty designers have made this impossible without a Cataclysm key attached to a playerâs account. |
| 13:44.11 | Nobgul | Angayelle, Nope |
| 13:45.31 | Nobgul | Aparently you can save to the layout-local but not erase but you can overwrite 0_o |
| 13:45.34 | Monocle | Cataclysm fish sound fun. |
| 13:45.58 | Monocle | I just picture a 50 ft. tall fish with a machine gun. |
| 13:46.18 | Nobgul | That would be the whale shark =P |
| 13:47.05 | Lulia | Angayelle. I simply store my own frame's positions. |
| 13:47.16 | Lulia | And if I need to reset them then I do it by resetting that. |
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| 13:48.44 | Nobgul | You can save them in the saved vars or in the layout file |
| 13:49.48 | Lulia | yeah, the layout file didn't work for me :P |
| 13:51.33 | Nobgul | I think you need to use some crap function like |
| 13:51.37 | Nobgul | SetUserDefined |
| 13:51.41 | Nobgul | !api SetUserPlaced |
| 13:51.41 | lua_bot | Frame:SetUserPlaced: Flags the frame for automatic saving and restoration of position and dimensions (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetUserPlaced) |
| 13:51.44 | Nobgul | ^^ |
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| 13:51.51 | Lulia | Yeah, I used that |
| 13:52.02 | Lulia | And it worked for a couple reloads, then stopped working. |
| 13:52.06 | Nobgul | lol |
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| 13:53.35 | aualin | Does WoW support bitmap fonts? |
| 13:53.55 | Nobgul | I think only ttf |
| 13:54.05 | aualin | :( |
| 13:54.17 | Nobgul | It's all i have ever used anyway. |
| 13:54.34 | aualin | Truetype fonts look horrible when scaled to 8px |
| 13:54.57 | Nobgul | Well. You can change bitmap fonts to ttf aparently. |
| 13:55.08 | Nobgul | aualin, And not all ttf do. |
| 13:55.51 | TMc51 | Most non pixel fonts do, though. |
| 13:56.25 | Nobgul | well. |
| 13:56.41 | Nobgul | Then don't use 8px =P |
| 13:56.51 | aualin | Then half my screen is filled :( |
| 13:57.17 | Nobgul | Convert a bitmap font to ttf? |
| 13:57.32 | Nobgul | fontforge |
| 13:57.49 | aualin | Sexy font: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1146262/trustyolvim.png |
| 13:58.01 | Nobgul | TMc51, Did you see what I had said earlier? |
| 13:58.11 | TMc51 | About what? |
| 13:58.38 | Nobgul | Video Card: (nVidia GeForce GTS 450) ¤ Sound Card: (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) |
| 13:58.45 | Nobgul | Thank You =) |
| 13:58.54 | TMc51 | Oh nice, so they had the GTS 450 there? |
| 13:59.06 | Nobgul | Yea i had to get the pny one. Wasa bit more |
| 13:59.23 | Nobgul | but it is omg worth it lol |
| 13:59.37 | aualin | I don't buy nVidia anymore, simply because AMD got better divers for Linux |
| 13:59.42 | TMc51 | Yeah, I know. It was one of the cards I was considering getting. |
| 13:59.55 | Monocle | Bai! |
| 13:59.56 | Monocle | :3 |
| 14:00.03 | Nobgul | I was playing last night with settings on ultra and still had 50 - 60 fps in a 10 man icc |
| 14:00.06 | foxlit | "I don't buy nVidia anymore, simply because AMD got better divers for Linux" << when did this happen, and how come I was not informed? |
| 14:00.09 | TMc51 | aualin: Since when? Last I remembered, Nvidia worked far better on Linux. Can't have been a whole lot that changed in the past year. |
| 14:00.16 | Bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:00.19 | Bluspacecow | i sad nows |
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| 14:00.27 | TMc51 | Awwww =( |
| 14:00.33 | Nobgul | Why Bluspacecow? |
| 14:00.43 | aualin | TMc51: AMD made an open-source driver that has seriously improved over this year... |
| 14:00.44 | Bluspacecow | Mono left |
| 14:00.47 | Nobgul | And yer nividia was the first card to use the ubuntu and beryl crap |
| 14:00.49 | aualin | KMS is definetly a killer feature for me |
| 14:00.50 | Bluspacecow | ~fish Fisker |
| 14:00.50 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around with a large trout |
| 14:01.15 | Nobgul | I dunno, I could have gotten the 5750. But it was 40$ more. |
| 14:01.29 | aualin | I got a 5770 ;) |
| 14:01.36 | Nobgul | although that brand they had, did have a lifetime warranty on the card. |
| 14:01.40 | TMc51 | I almost got a 5770. |
| 14:01.45 | Nobgul | And it did support 3 monitors. |
| 14:01.59 | TMc51 | But decided to throw a party and pay for plane tickets for my brother to come home. |
| 14:02.23 | Nobgul | But not good juju. If i get 2 more monitors Not only would my wife kill me. But I would have no room on my desk. |
| 14:02.41 | Nobgul | 3 42 inch lcd's = death by wife. |
| 14:02.45 | aualin | The 260 GTX is huge, compared to my 5770 |
| 14:03.02 | TMc51 | I <3 my big desk. All I need to do is take a saw to a few shelves and I can fit in the 30" I plan to get next year with a new card. |
| 14:03.06 | mikma | hueg liek ps3? |
| 14:03.55 | TMc51 | I couldnt fit a GTX 260 in my case even if I wanted to. I'd need to take a hacksaw to the drive bays, but then I'd have nowhere to put the drives. |
| 14:04.07 | mikma | go for it |
| 14:04.13 | foxlit | Clearly the solution is to get a better case. |
| 14:04.23 | Nobgul | TMc51, I had to take a grinder to my case to get this card in lol |
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| 14:08.17 | Nobgul | [09:07] <Nob-bot> [New Addon Released] ICC auras for ShotGlass Raid Frames (0.1) - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18936.html |
| 14:08.26 | Nobgul | err mis paste |
| 14:11.36 | Nobgul | Just upgraded to cata =P |
| 14:12.59 | Nobgul | On the wifes account that is, she will be happy |
| 14:13.29 | TMc51 | I haven't even placed my preorder yet, and won't until tomorrow. |
| 14:13.32 | Kraps | whats the difference between coppertop and procell batteries? |
| 14:13.59 | TMc51 | http://newsnewsforyou.com/whats-the-difference-between-duracell-procell-vs-duracell-coppertop-alkaline-batteries/ |
| 14:14.07 | Lulia | Guess what, Nobgul? |
| 14:14.17 | Lulia | Oh wait, nevermind :( |
| 14:15.01 | Kraps | thanks TMc51 |
| 14:16.18 | Nobgul | Lulia? =( |
| 14:16.18 | Kraps | that pace is a freaking ad though :p |
| 14:16.25 | Kraps | page* |
| 14:17.01 | TMc51 | Kraps: It is a huge ad, but the diffeences it lists between them are correct. |
| 14:17.08 | Kraps | yeah |
| 14:17.20 | Kraps | ok then |
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| 14:23.39 | Lulia | Hmm, wait |
| 14:23.59 | Lulia | If the fix shouldn't have to apply to anything I've done. |
| 14:25.50 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5704983/apple-borrows-blizzards-biggest-blunder |
| 14:25.52 | zenzio | religion these days must be interesting... Google's suggesting "does god exist" when I type "does " |
| 14:26.40 | Bluspacecow | FAIL |
| 14:26.59 | foxlit | well. |
| 14:27.07 | foxlit | What does "I'm feeling lucky?" tell you about that question? |
| 14:27.25 | zenzio | hm, let's see |
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| 14:27.57 | TMc51 | gives you the first search result |
| 14:28.00 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5705001/back-to-the-futures-trailer-will-have-your-emotions-running-at-88mph |
| 14:28.13 | Lulia | If the change only applies to casts made before Shooting Stars procs, then the cast will already have been sent, so it shouldn't need to be added. |
| 14:28.14 | zenzio | okay, typing "does god " was more interesting... "does god love me", "does god change his mind", "does god hate", "does god really exist", "does god answer prayers" |
| 14:29.10 | zenzio | foxlit: "I'm feeling lucky" on "does god exist" took me to http://www.doesgodexist.org/ |
| 14:29.34 | Lulia | lol |
| 14:29.38 | foxlit | zenzio: I was expecting something in the style of http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ |
| 14:31.09 | Lulia | Anyone up for a programming logic challenge? I'm having a bit of a problem that I can't seem to figure out on my own. The following is the first link, which displays the relevant code: http://www.pastey.net/143561 |
| 14:31.35 | Lulia | You'll see some MsgLog:AddLine() in there, that's part of my addon's internal message system, this is the output: http://www.pastey.net/143562 |
| 14:31.35 | zenzio | "has the " => "has the gulf stream stopped", "has the bible been changed" |
| 14:32.03 | Ackis | hates you. |
| 14:32.06 | Ackis | yes... YOU! |
| 14:32.12 | foxlit | no, YOU! |
| 14:32.16 | Mirrormn | very relevant to last night's discussions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNStNUizxhE |
| 14:32.23 | Lopeppeppy | cries |
| 14:32.38 | Lulia | blinks. |
| 14:33.06 | Lulia | Why does Ackis hate me? :( |
| 14:33.13 | Kraps | gives Lopeppeppy a cookie |
| 14:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, thank you Kraps. I was having a bad bad day before that. |
| 14:34.41 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 14:34.55 | Kraps | his wife too? |
| 14:35.35 | Lulia | Why, Peppy? |
| 14:35.40 | Fisker | i didn't kill his wife Kraps |
| 14:35.46 | Fisker | it was a man |
| 14:35.49 | Fisker | he was in his house |
| 14:35.52 | Fisker | he had a mechanical arm |
| 14:36.29 | Kraps | did you take his arm? |
| 14:36.36 | solo|work | good movie. |
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| 14:43.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh Lulia, let me tell you... no, wait, is to long, let me sum up. |
| 14:43.35 | Lopeppeppy | Bad day is bad. |
| 14:43.46 | Lulia | hugs Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:44.02 | Fisker | turns bad into worse |
| 14:44.03 | Fisker | for free |
| 14:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you Fisker. *poke* |
| 14:44.32 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/fee5486f-df82-4131-9963-d2cdec392e9f.jpg |
| 14:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you Lulia. Some days you should just go back to bed, ya know? |
| 14:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | "First you give me milk, and then I take back the claws!" |
| 14:46.46 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/958064-backdoor-access-to-physical-memory/ |
| 14:46.47 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:48.45 | Lopeppeppy | so it's a quote of an unsubstantiated rumor? *snark* |
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| 14:55.11 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:55.23 | Lulia | Hey |
| 14:55.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 14:56.43 | Bluspacecow | eh oh Lunessa |
| 14:57.06 | Lunessa | rawr? |
| 14:57.22 | Lopeppeppy | purr? |
| 14:57.25 | harl | raawrr?! |
| 14:58.01 | cog|sleep | morning |
| 14:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | Meow. |
| 15:00.26 | Bluspacecow | peep ! |
| 15:00.34 | Lulia | hehe |
| 15:00.39 | aualin | It feels weird having people saying morning when in this cold place it's 4 PM |
| 15:01.04 | cogwheel | ~ugt |
| 15:01.04 | purl | i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:01.15 | Lunessa | Move. Move to where it's warm and the day is starting at a reasonable hour. |
| 15:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | Peep joustings in the microwave? |
| 15:01.37 | Bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:01.40 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I would GLADLY do so! |
| 15:01.46 | Bluspacecow | nooooos |
| 15:01.48 | Lopeppeppy | Bluspacecow, have you never peep jousted? |
| 15:01.50 | Bluspacecow | i is not for eating |
| 15:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | Is fun times! |
| 15:01.58 | Bluspacecow | what is peep jousting? |
| 15:02.01 | Bluspacecow | can I eat it ? |
| 15:02.05 | Bluspacecow | and will i enjoy it ? |
| 15:02.07 | Lunessa | Peeps; not just for breakfast anymore. |
| 15:03.09 | Lunessa | I'm torn. I want an OOTS cover for my iPhone 3G, but I can't choose: http://www.cafepress.com/orderofthestick/7476936 |
| 15:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | You don't know about peep jousting? |
| 15:04.20 | Kraps | gee dad l2taskbar |
| 15:04.31 | aualin | Since there is no SetName for frames, do you believe it would be possible to override the normal GetName function and setting a global variable to simulate a SetName function? Or would this start tainting the whole ui? |
| 15:04.43 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 15:05.00 | Bluspacecow | with a fish! |
| 15:05.03 | Bluspacecow | and a rake ! |
| 15:05.03 | Lunessa | Um... You want to replace a frame's name? In heaven's name, WHY? |
| 15:05.07 | Bluspacecow | you nasty SOB |
| 15:05.07 | foxlit | aualin: no, and yes. Also, horrible idea. |
| 15:05.21 | Kraps | did you take him to dinner first Fisker? |
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| 15:07.17 | aualin | Lunessa: Because the dropdown functions expect a name |
| 15:08.09 | Lunessa | aualin: Is this your own frame? Or someone else's? |
| 15:08.15 | aualin | My own |
| 15:08.25 | Lunessa | Then give the frame a name when you create it. |
| 15:09.11 | aualin | I'll try and keep a global reference to a dropdown frame then |
| 15:09.18 | Kraps | "Dr. James Elder, one of the world's foremost experts on phosphorus" |
| 15:09.26 | Kraps | that is cool |
| 15:09.42 | cbreak_work | steam punk? |
| 15:10.14 | Kraps | what does it feel like to be known as one of the world's foremost experts on phosphorus |
| 15:11.44 | Lopeppeppy | Peep jousting is when you put two peeps in a microwave, arm them with toothpicks, turn it on, and see who blows up the biggest and punches a hole in the other first! Big mess! fun times. |
| 15:11.48 | Lopeppeppy | Many videos on youtube. |
| 15:13.24 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I'd go with the monster in the darkness. Or the OOTS Attacks! |
| 15:13.36 | Lunessa | :D |
| 15:14.48 | Lopeppeppy | I really want one with a gazebo, with one lonely arrow sticking out of the top of it. |
| 15:15.24 | Lunessa | ... I r teh conffozeled? |
| 15:16.57 | Lopeppeppy | There's a gazebo over there. |
| 15:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | I shoot it! |
| 15:17.09 | Lopeppeppy | ... it does nothing. It's a gazebo. |
| 15:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, that was a +2 arrow!!!! |
| 15:17.16 | Lunessa | Oh, right. |
| 15:17.21 | Lopeppeppy | ... It's a GAZEBO! |
| 15:18.01 | Kraps | ellipses |
| 15:18.44 | Lulia | Cute, Peppy :P |
| 15:19.06 | Lopeppeppy | classic gaming humor never dies. |
| 15:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | Unless it is eaten by a grue. |
| 15:19.59 | Lunessa | You're in a maze of twisty passages all alike. It's dark. |
| 15:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | Very dark. |
| 15:22.12 | Bluspacecow | a wild fisker appears ! |
| 15:22.25 | Bluspacecow | it is armed with a fish |
| 15:22.32 | Bluspacecow | it once killed a man! |
| 15:22.42 | Nobgul | lol |
| 15:22.53 | Mirrormn | XD |
| 15:23.05 | Lopeppeppy | Which, the fisker or the fish? |
| 15:23.09 | TC-Away | and it thinks it's a troll |
| 15:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | I ready my axe, it's +3 against trolls! |
| 15:23.38 | Mirrormn | well fisker used the fish to kill the man... in that case, was it fisker doing the killing, or the fish? |
| 15:23.40 | Lopeppeppy | Except I'm a rogue and I can't use axes, so where's my backpack shaman nuke-a-thingie? |
| 15:23.42 | Lunessa | I shoot magic missile at the darkness. |
| 15:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | Hee hee! Can I have some Cheetos? |
| 15:23.58 | Bluspacecow | it' super effective ! |
| 15:24.45 | Lopeppeppy | Where's the Mountain Dew? |
| 15:26.18 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHdcYUBm-MI |
| 15:27.03 | Fisker | Ackismen |
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| 15:31.20 | Lunessa | Father Christmas, give us some money. Don't mess around with no silly toys. |
| 15:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | Santa Baby, forgot to mention one little thing. A ring. And I don't mean on the phone. |
| 15:35.53 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy Lunessa |
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| 15:37.05 | haste | I accidently your cataclysm key Fisker |
| 15:37.14 | Nobgul | lol |
| 15:37.25 | Lunessa | the whole thing? |
| 15:37.41 | Fisker | music haste |
| 15:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | All at once? Kinky. |
| 15:37.58 | haste | the whole thing. |
| 15:42.00 | Fisker | haste haste haste |
| 15:43.54 | Kraps | Are you a C++ guru? Wowhead is hiring! |
| 15:44.50 | Fisker | Kraps Kraps Kraps |
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| 15:53.37 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: thanks for fun |
| 15:53.41 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 16:00.18 | Lulia | ? |
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| 16:22.21 | Lunessa | So, I bought 4gb more RAM for my Windows7 box (Merry X-mas to me!) - and I'm sad that I didn't get much additional performance. Time for an SSD and a new video card next. |
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| 16:24.10 | cogwheel | before the ssd try readyboost |
| 16:24.19 | Lunessa | I'm already using Readyboost |
| 16:24.25 | cogwheel | hmm |
| 16:24.51 | Lunessa | I got some boost from the extra RAM .. just not as much as I was hoping for. |
| 16:24.55 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 16:25.53 | Lunessa | The SSD would probably be the biggest boost for the money, but I'm thinking that getting a more powerful video card wouldn't hurt game performance either. |
| 16:27.49 | nicoli_s | SSD would def help |
| 16:28.22 | Lunessa | Yeah, I was tempted while I was at Fry's picking up RAM, but the prices are still very high |
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| 16:33.38 | sylvanaar_work | SSD's are nice. They dont seem to help wow much though |
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| 16:34.38 | sylvanaar_work | (at least for me) |
| 16:38.44 | cogwheel | as some of you have already noticed, i put up the next episode of my Minecraft series last night |
| 16:41.22 | TMc51 | cogwheel: Where at? |
| 16:41.35 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/user/cogwheel42 |
| 16:41.47 | Lunessa | The SSD would be good for loading/zoning speed. Anything else is going to have to come from CPU and GPU. |
| 16:41.57 | TMc51 | Thanks. Minecraft is awesome. =D |
| 16:42.06 | cogwheel | it is indeed! =) |
| 16:43.23 | Legorol | cogwheel: did you know that jnwhiteh set up an MC server? multiplayer, mobs on, pvp off |
| 16:43.29 | Legorol | you should check it out |
| 16:43.33 | jnwhiteh | he just did :P |
| 16:43.36 | Legorol | aha |
| 16:43.37 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 16:43.41 | jnwhiteh | i'm working on getting a better wrapper to add permissions |
| 16:43.41 | cogwheel | :) |
| 16:43.43 | jnwhiteh | at the moment |
| 16:44.09 | Legorol | only got a "shack" built for now at the spawn |
| 16:44.32 | TMc51 | Try not to put a fireplace in your shack. ;) |
| 16:44.43 | Legorol | been there, done that with my own house.. twice |
| 16:44.48 | Legorol | good thing i have the layout memorised |
| 16:45.05 | cogwheel | lol i have a lava incinerator in my wood house... |
| 16:45.46 | cogwheel | is asking for it |
| 16:51.34 | jnwhiteh | I'm on a new server wrapper, but both of you should be allowed to enter |
| 16:51.40 | jnwhiteh | its a whitelist, so people need to contact me to be added |
| 16:51.48 | jnwhiteh | but not sure there's a good way around that right now =) |
| 16:51.51 | Legorol | i can haz axxess? |
| 16:52.19 | jnwhiteh | yes, you canz. |
| 16:52.34 | TMc51 | how much does minecraft cost at the moment? |
| 16:52.56 | Legorol | 9.99 euro |
| 16:53.07 | Legorol | well worth it imo |
| 16:53.23 | TMc51 | so, just under 15 usd give or take. |
| 16:53.45 | TMc51 | it looks worth it. I had the demo, and been watching videos ever since I heard of it. pretty damn fun. |
| 16:55.26 | Legorol | demo?? |
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| 16:55.42 | TMc51 | yeah, there was, if not still is a free download |
| 16:55.50 | Legorol | ah, the classic version that's free |
| 16:55.53 | Legorol | and boring |
| 16:55.55 | TMc51 | yeah |
| 16:56.01 | TMc51 | well, it was fun enough =P |
| 16:57.43 | foxlit | gr, Trap Launcher |
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| 17:00.15 | kd3 | wth |
| 17:00.25 | kd3 | logs in to a few dozen emails waiting for him |
| 17:00.41 | Legorol | viagra? |
| 17:01.36 | kd3 | huh, code commits that got through a filter, and one "Michal Jackson is found alive" spam |
| 17:04.49 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5704830/everquest-2-may-be-getting-its-own-cataclysm-soon |
| 17:05.38 | alestane | Just opened a browser, the UI forum is my home page. I got: |
| 17:05.52 | alestane | "Oops |
| 17:05.52 | alestane | "Something Is Broken |
| 17:05.52 | alestane | "You can blame Deathwing for this little mishap." |
| 17:06.02 | kd3 | har |
| 17:10.01 | Lulia | jnwhiteh: How are the TomTomLite additions coming along? |
| 17:10.15 | jnwhiteh | haven't done anytrhing tisince yesterday |
| 17:10.33 | Lulia | Ah |
| 17:13.03 | cogwheel | TMc51: you're my 42th subscriber |
| 17:13.14 | TMc51 | YAY 42! |
| 17:13.21 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: Legorol: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8884124fe386038b52247692dc667100.png |
| 17:13.52 | cogwheel | nice forest fire :) |
| 17:13.56 | jnwhiteh | my tree farm looks so bizarre |
| 17:14.04 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: apparently there's a nice lava stream there causign it |
| 17:14.09 | jnwhiteh | Legorol found it but I haven't seen it yet. |
| 17:15.02 | Legorol | that forest fire on the left, yes it's the one i came across |
| 17:15.56 | Legorol | mm, does that map mean it's still spreading? |
| 17:16.10 | jnwhiteh | that is the current state of our world :P |
| 17:16.50 | Legorol | i came across snow though... can't see it on the map |
| 17:17.12 | jnwhiteh | there is some in the very middle |
| 17:17.53 | Legorol | could be |
| 17:23.38 | jnwhiteh | huh |
| 17:23.43 | jnwhiteh | I can't connect to the server anymore. |
| 17:23.44 | jnwhiteh | ponders |
| 17:23.54 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhjnuMql1aU&feature=player_embedded |
| 17:24.01 | TMc51 | you brokeded it |
| 17:26.11 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: cogwheel: can either of you get on? |
| 17:26.23 | cogwheel | nope. immediate connection lost |
| 17:26.35 | jnwhiteh | hrm.. guess the last update broke something |
| 17:26.36 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 17:26.40 | Legorol | going to try |
| 17:27.00 | Legorol | hm, client update |
| 17:27.37 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF5x_AS1yYw&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 17:27.43 | jnwhiteh | huh |
| 17:27.53 | jnwhiteh | _that_ worked |
| 17:28.00 | Aezay | Is there any smart way to determine how many gem slots an item has, including prismatic blacksmith slots? |
| 17:28.07 | jnwhiteh | just the wrong world/jar |
| 17:28.27 | Legorol | no luck |
| 17:28.36 | jnwhiteh | sadface |
| 17:28.41 | jnwhiteh | one last thing |
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| 17:33.07 | Ackis | hi jnwhiteh |
| 17:33.11 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: cogwheel: All fixed, not sure what happened :P |
| 17:33.13 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: hihi |
| 17:33.20 | Ackis | you still in the US? |
| 17:33.41 | jnwhiteh | haven't been for 3+ years |
| 17:33.42 | jnwhiteh | why? |
| 17:33.56 | Ackis | oh I thought you were back for a few days |
| 17:34.03 | jnwhiteh | nah |
| 17:34.06 | jnwhiteh | 14th - 22nd |
| 17:34.12 | Ackis | ah |
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| 17:37.08 | Shirik | whee |
| 17:37.11 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 17:37.14 | Fisker | when can i gingerbread+ |
| 17:37.15 | Shirik | 's Wikipedia bot was approved |
| 17:37.15 | Fisker | ? |
| 17:37.19 | Fisker | failure Shirik |
| 17:37.26 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no soup for you |
| 17:39.06 | Kraps | Shirik: what bot? |
| 17:39.25 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/TorNodeBot_2 |
| 17:40.27 | Shirik | It's something that should already be done autmoatically, but sucks |
| 17:40.33 | Shirik | so I wrote a bot to do it instead |
| 17:45.55 | Ackis | can I write a bot to change all the armor, favorite, etc to armour, favourite, etc? |
| 17:46.23 | Shirik | You can, but it will never be approved |
| 17:46.26 | Shirik | and would probably be blocked in seconds |
| 17:46.33 | Shirik | if you tried to run it without approval |
| 17:46.47 | Ackis | wikipedia is english I thought, not american *bam! |
| 17:47.01 | Ackis | I almost created an account to edit once |
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| 17:47.17 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RETAIN#Retaining_the_existing_variety |
| 17:47.37 | Ackis | then I said screw it and retired: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ackis :D |
| 17:47.44 | Kraps | Ackis: it would have to check if the page is using american or british |
| 17:48.35 | Kraps | Ackis: you created an account to retire it |
| 17:48.41 | Kraps | wat |
| 17:49.42 | Ackis | :) |
| 17:49.51 | Ackis | I think I was trolling Shirik that day |
| 17:50.01 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 17:50.03 | Shirik | you changed my userpage |
| 17:50.29 | Ackis | I did? |
| 17:50.32 | Shirik | I think so |
| 17:50.35 | Shirik | maybe that was someone else |
| 17:50.41 | Shirik | but wtf @ you creating an account and instantly retiring? |
| 17:50.46 | Ackis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ackis |
| 17:50.51 | Ackis | Shirik: I'm special like that |
| 17:50.53 | Shirik | You don't even have any deleted contribs |
| 17:51.22 | Ackis | you linked someone that had {{retired}} and I wanted to have a non-red talk page |
| 17:51.29 | Ackis | I put two and two together, and bam! PROFIT |
| 17:52.28 | ckknight | sad, sad Ackis |
| 17:52.59 | Ackis | :( |
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| 17:54.18 | Kraps | weeee peggle |
| 17:54.26 | Shirik | oh god not peggle again |
| 17:54.39 | Kraps | i hate the game too |
| 17:55.07 | Ackis | hate the player, not the game |
| 17:55.33 | Kraps | no, in this case its hate the game |
| 17:55.35 | ckknight | player-hater |
| 17:56.34 | foxlit | gah, mages. |
| 17:56.52 | foxlit | So many useful spells, it's hard to fit them on action bars :/ |
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| 17:58.08 | cogwheel | you should try opie |
| 17:58.14 | cogwheel | <.< |
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| 17:59.16 | foxlit | Doesn't do what I want :( |
| 18:01.53 | foxlit | Also, client has been "Retrieving item information" for a solid 10 minutes now. |
| 18:03.30 | syrae | morning, folks |
| 18:03.37 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 18:04.26 | Lopeppeppy | hey |
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| 18:13.08 | Lunessa | foxlit: ZOMG. You don't have enough actionbar space? |
| 18:14.38 | Lunessa | Though to be fair, there are spells I probably have uses for that I never put on my action bars for that reason. |
| 18:14.46 | Lulia | Anyone know what the cost of a Flight Master's License in Cata will be? |
| 18:15.00 | syrae | Lulia: I believe 100g |
| 18:15.07 | Baps | it was 250g on the beta |
| 18:15.10 | TMc51 | cheap, like 250 or so I think they said. |
| 18:15.19 | Lunessa | Yeah, subtract rep discount |
| 18:15.20 | Lulia | After faction rep discounts? |
| 18:15.25 | Lulia | Ah, alright |
| 18:15.30 | Lulia | Thanks :) |
| 18:15.33 | syrae | is sad that 250g is considered cheap |
| 18:15.50 | Lulia | I know I can afford to purchase epic flying for my Warrior then, when she hits 70 |
| 18:15.52 | TMc51 | 250 is cheap though |
| 18:15.55 | Baps | compared to 5k, it's pretty cheap |
| 18:16.06 | Lulia | 280% > 150% |
| 18:16.31 | syrae | I remember farming for months to get my epic land mount! |
| 18:16.35 | TMc51 | I can make 250 from 10-30 minutes of herbing and skinning. |
| 18:16.45 | Lulia | I have 310% on two of my chars just from having the Ulduar mount, not sure if I'm willing to dish out another 8k for 310% for the other 80 and the Warrior when she gets there. |
| 18:18.01 | Lunessa | I have 310% on my main. I'm not really feeling the desire to farm up tons of gold for the other 8 80s yet. |
| 18:18.32 | syrae | it's not a huuuge difference |
| 18:18.46 | Baps | 310% is nice, but not worth the coin to me to upgrade the other characters I have. 280% is enough for them. |
| 18:19.19 | TMc51 | Lunessa: did you get the 310 from pugs, grouping with MBS, or from someplace else? |
| 18:19.30 | Lulia | 310% is better when it's free ;) |
| 18:19.34 | syrae | plus, most of my characters end up finding a way to snag the move faster while mounted talent |
| 18:19.49 | Lunessa | TMc51: I got it from the "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" achievement. |
| 18:19.55 | olafski | me too! |
| 18:19.59 | TMc51 | Ahh, nice. |
| 18:20.00 | syrae | mostly so I can taunt my slower friends :D |
| 18:20.07 | Lulia | The two chars of mine that have the 310% from Ulduar also have move faster talents or abilities |
| 18:20.07 | olafski | only found out today that that new alchemy dragon is like 30k gold >_< |
| 18:20.07 | syrae | Lunessa: ditty |
| 18:20.09 | syrae | o |
| 18:20.20 | syrae | olafski: lol |
| 18:20.20 | Lulia | The one 80 that doesn't have it doesn't have such an ability :-/ |
| 18:20.23 | Lunessa | i read that as "dirty" |
| 18:20.46 | syrae | Lunessa: oh... you're so *dirty* |
| 18:20.50 | Baps | one of mine is from the Naxx 25 meta, the other from the naxx 10 meta. we got every player in the guild at the time one or the other. |
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| 18:21.02 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 18:21.22 | Lunessa | When I play a character that doesn't have 310% I feel slow. |
| 18:21.23 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 18:21.28 | syrae | Cide's mother was a Devilsaur. true story |
| 18:21.58 | TMc51 | only one of my characters even has epic flying, none have 310%. |
| 18:22.00 | Lulia | I hate quests that send me looking for some guy that pats huge distances |
| 18:22.50 | Baps | I spent a lot of time as the local loan shark for people's epic flyers in TBC.. I fronted the gold for 23 epics and got repaid for 22 of them |
| 18:23.12 | Lunessa | syrae: No, not his mother. Cide is an alien life-form which exists solely on its one excretions of sarcasm and computer code. |
| 18:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | rawr? |
| 18:23.35 | Lunessa | Baps: I paid for epic flight on a lot of toons. |
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| 18:23.58 | Baps | all of my toons with flyers got epics immediately 'cept the first one |
| 18:24.22 | Shirik | lol. |
| 18:24.28 | Baps | but I don't expect to buy 310 for any that didn't get it free. |
| 18:24.38 | Shirik | I complained to the person that approved my bot about how he forgot to give it admin rights |
| 18:24.43 | Shirik | (del/undel) 13:16, 3 December 2010 EVula (talk | contribs | block) changed rights for User:TorNodeBot from Bots to Bots and Administrators â (I didn't forget to add the admin flag, it was, uh, a test, to see who was paying attention. Yeah.) |
| 18:25.08 | Cide | how are you Shirik? |
| 18:25.12 | Shirik | good! |
| 18:25.15 | Cide | nice |
| 18:25.16 | Shirik | I also got my class ring today |
| 18:25.21 | Cide | what's that |
| 18:25.27 | Shirik | you poor swede |
| 18:25.36 | Shirik | They must not have enough money out there to get class rings |
| 18:25.36 | Cide | a ring (on your finger) with your class' stamp? |
| 18:25.45 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_ring |
| 18:25.56 | Shirik | mine looks closer to the second picture |
| 18:25.57 | Shirik | not the first |
| 18:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | Neat, Shirik. I still have my high school ring. |
| 18:27.33 | Jamash | did you get a prince albert? |
| 18:28.02 | Shirik | ... no |
| 18:31.08 | Cide | Shirik: never heard of it before so it's not impossible that we get them too |
| 18:31.10 | Cide | but I doubt it |
| 18:31.17 | Cide | oh |
| 18:31.23 | Cide | "in the United States and Canada" |
| 18:31.27 | Cide | so probably not in sweden |
| 18:31.40 | syrae | mmm Sweden == Ligonberries |
| 18:31.43 | syrae | mmmm |
| 18:31.48 | Cide | at least spell it right dude |
| 18:31.49 | syrae | *drools* |
| 18:32.06 | cogwheel | Cide: too busy drooling to care imo ;) |
| 18:32.14 | cogwheel | and /agree |
| 18:32.17 | syrae | drools on Cide |
| 18:32.59 | Cide | awesome |
| 18:33.07 | Cide | all monsters in diablo 3 support decapitation. |
| 18:33.23 | syrae | that's a key feature, right there |
| 18:33.29 | syrae | should be on the front of the box in big print |
| 18:35.39 | Jamash | the M rating is the best thing about the Diablo series |
| 18:37.20 | syrae | Torchlight actually did a pretty good job of making a Diablo clone. |
| 18:37.32 | syrae | just in terms of gameplay feel |
| 18:40.03 | Lulia | There's no beta for it yet, right? |
| 18:40.27 | Lunessa | No. No beta. But I got to play it and the arena mode at BlizzCon. |
| 18:40.43 | Lunessa | Witch Doctor for the M'F'ing win! |
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| 18:41.09 | Lulia | I don't see the Witch Doctor as a replacement for the Necros I love so much |
| 18:41.14 | Lulia | I might try Demon Hunter out |
| 18:47.43 | Lunessa | Demon Hunter was also fun. D3 is all about playing and WARP speed. |
| 18:51.43 | Ackis | http://www.fukung.net/images/34935/eac2fb6666de856ab2dbb8cbc50b4bc2.gif |
| 18:51.48 | cbreak | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/11/double-secret-reverse-psychology/, very nice. |
| 18:51.49 | Ackis | ~jnwhiteh++ |
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| 18:55.36 | SqueeG_ | ahahaha |
| 18:55.46 | SqueeG_ | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/12/role-reversal/ |
| 18:55.51 | SqueeG_ | that one is way better xD |
| 18:57.32 | Cide | so |
| 18:57.38 | Cide | I have this desktop and my laptop |
| 18:57.48 | Cide | both connected to my router via cable |
| 18:58.04 | Cide | but my laptop gets 10mbit down from speed tests, whereas my desktop gets 100mbit |
| 18:58.41 | Cide | the connections to the router are both listed as 100mbit locally |
| 18:58.46 | Cide | any ideas? |
| 18:59.17 | Cide | doesn't seem like it could be an isp thing but could it? |
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| 18:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | different ports on the router? Is one bad? |
| 19:00.15 | Cide | tried 2 different ones |
| 19:00.42 | cbreak | Cide: what OS? |
| 19:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | Router isn't somehow set... to treat the laptop mac address preferentially? *grasps straws* |
| 19:00.52 | cbreak | mac os shows which ethernet protocol is used |
| 19:01.01 | Cide | cbreak: windows |
| 19:01.09 | Cide | not sure what you mean by which ethernet protocol |
| 19:01.37 | cbreak | so for example, my connections to the router are media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex,flow-control>) |
| 19:03.08 | Cide | cbreak: doesn't seem to say that anywhere obviously on windows |
| 19:03.12 | cbreak | Cide: maybe ipconfig can show it |
| 19:03.15 | Cide | checking |
| 19:03.18 | cbreak | ifconfig does it on os x |
| 19:03.27 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/12/alt-text-elf-overdose/ |
| 19:09.08 | Cide | ipconfig /all doesn't show it |
| 19:09.44 | dafire | it's a driver thing on windows |
| 19:09.59 | Cide | I already updated drivers |
| 19:10.16 | cbreak | hmm. lame. |
| 19:10.20 | cbreak | do you have spare cables? |
| 19:10.24 | Dagmar | If you're seeing that difference, you might hvae a lame cable |
| 19:10.25 | Cide | yeah, tried two different ones |
| 19:10.27 | cbreak | can you change the cables between the two computers? |
| 19:10.28 | Dagmar | Switch the two if you can |
| 19:10.29 | dafire | in the device manager in the options of the network card you can set what to use |
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| 19:10.39 | cbreak | or different ports |
| 19:10.41 | Cide | it's listed as 100mbit connection |
| 19:10.46 | Cide | tried two different ports also |
| 19:10.47 | cbreak | hmm. |
| 19:10.51 | Cide | let me try the desktop cable on the laptop |
| 19:10.53 | Dagmar | Generally one does not _ever_ have to tell equipment to force 100b-T mode |
| 19:11.04 | Cide | brb since I'll be dropping connection |
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| 19:11.46 | cbreak | when I plug my computers together without a switch, I get 1000 base-T :/ |
| 19:12.20 | cbreak | I should get a faster switch |
| 19:12.59 | Dagmar | Probably so. Gigabit switches are no longer hundreds of dollars |
| 19:13.14 | Dagmar | If all yer cable is cat 6 and all your NICs are gig-e then definitely |
| 19:13.45 | cbreak | hmm... I think the cables are more of the cheap variety. |
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| 19:14.23 | Dagmar | That might go a bit poorly then. |
| 19:14.34 | Cide | seems like it was the drivers but it required a full reboot |
| 19:14.35 | Dagmar | Keep the blenders away from it. ;) |
| 19:14.52 | cbreak | yay, windows... |
| 19:14.54 | Cide | now to investigate why my isp is only giving me 60mbit as opposed to 100 |
| 19:15.02 | Cide | it was 95 a day ago :( |
| 19:15.20 | cbreak | I have 50mbit down, but I hardly ever use them |
| 19:15.25 | Lopeppeppy | They hate you, Cide. |
| 19:15.32 | cbreak | but the 5mbit up... almost constantly :) |
| 19:15.34 | Cide | I believe so too |
| 19:19.23 | Cide | also on my list to investigate |
| 19:19.41 | Cide | why the kde notifier crashes like 5 times a day |
| 19:19.49 | Cide | and also on my list to investigate |
| 19:19.50 | Dagmar | Hahah goood luck there |
| 19:19.58 | Cide | why the kde run command interface crashes like 10 times a day |
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| 19:22.32 | ccox | 2 palladins sighted: steverogers and buckybarnes |
| 19:22.41 | ccox | yeah, they both like to throw their shield |
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| 19:31.43 | Lulia | jnwhiteh: Your TomTom is rescaling even when I dont hold alt down |
| 19:36.43 | foxlit | Hm, I want to make something resembling the currency list |
| 19:37.23 | foxlit | In the sense that there should be a bunch of collapsable headings hiding/showing some elements under them. |
| 19:38.43 | foxlit | Wonder what a sane API design for that looks like. |
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| 19:40.31 | Adys | foxlit: I have an idea |
| 19:40.36 | Adys | take example on blizzard's code |
| 19:40.38 | Adys | HAHA |
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| 19:41.13 | foxlit | That is helpful and thought-through. Thank you, Adys. |
| 19:41.21 | Adys | I KNOW right |
| 19:41.27 | Lunessa | ccox: I chuckled. |
| 19:41.35 | syrae | I'd love to see someone reskin the WoW UI to feel like it was Apple's Aqua. That'd be hillarious |
| 19:42.13 | ccox | Lunessa -- but I thought bucky should be a female belf named "nomad".... and one of them got it. |
| 19:42.40 | Lunessa | heh, 80s/90s comics trivia ftw |
| 19:42.51 | ccox | nomad is more recent, but yeah |
| 19:42.53 | syrae | ok, so... what horrible names have people come up with for their Worgen/Goblin characters? |
| 19:43.22 | ccox | well, I have "doggyform" and "doggieform" reserved on a few servers |
| 19:43.36 | ccox | and my goblin was "reallyfugly" |
| 19:43.43 | syrae | I've seen Worgenstanley and Worgenfreeman in a few places |
| 19:43.58 | Dagmar | Worgenfreeman > * |
| 19:44.01 | syrae | And I'm sure at least one Dexterworgen |
| 19:44.18 | Dagmar | Thats a rogue, right? |
| 19:44.23 | syrae | heh |
| 19:44.36 | cogwheel | what about worgendonor? |
| 19:44.50 | syrae | ugh! That's a terrible one! :P |
| 19:45.04 | cogwheel | mine will be a 'lock named umbracanis |
| 19:45.14 | syrae | hah |
| 19:45.18 | syrae | nice |
| 19:45.27 | Lunessa | ccox: Nomad was introduced in the early 90s |
| 19:45.47 | ccox | Lunessa: hm, then I may have missed some history there |
| 19:45.56 | Dagmar | cogwheel: five bucks says someone laughs at your "marijuana name" within the first month |
| 19:45.58 | TMc51 | Syrae, I've got the name Worgnfleaman saved. 'tis more epic than Worgnfreeman |
| 19:46.02 | alestane | huggles Cairenn. |
| 19:46.06 | ccox | I only saw her in the ultimates crossover recently |
| 19:46.08 | syrae | TMc51: oh gods |
| 19:46.08 | Lunessa | ccox: I used to collect Capt. America titles back in the day. |
| 19:46.14 | Cairenn | huggles alestane |
| 19:47.39 | Fisker | i saw what you did there |
| 19:49.24 | Lopeppeppy | hides underneath the huggle pile. |
| 19:49.49 | Lunessa | moon doggy/wolf |
| 19:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | Snoopdog |
| 19:51.44 | syrae | Wholetdadogsout |
| 19:52.10 | syrae | Hrm |
| 19:52.19 | syrae | I kinda want to see lolworgens now |
| 19:52.21 | Seerah | too long :p |
| 19:52.39 | Seerah | Wholetmeout |
| 19:52.48 | syrae | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/funny-pictures-rolling-cat.gif?w=320&h=240 |
| 19:53.07 | ccox | nah, just name a worgen "snoop" and let folks work out the rest :-) |
| 19:53.28 | Dagmar | ...at least until the real Snoop starts playing and sends his boys to your house to "discuss" it |
| 19:53.36 | syrae | that's kinda why I want to name my tamed Ghostcrawler "Greg" |
| 19:53.39 | Lopeppeppy | My name is Mister T! |
| 19:53.50 | ccox | if he can find me, he's welcome to discuss it |
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| 19:54.12 | Dagmar | i just wonder whether or not Blizz has already set up a filter to nuke any name attempt with "bitch" i nit |
| 19:54.25 | syrae | heh |
| 19:54.29 | TMc51 | When I tame a ghostcrawler, it's getting named Pony. |
| 19:54.34 | Lopeppeppy | Pwny. |
| 19:54.38 | syrae | heh |
| 19:54.44 | syrae | TMc51: promised a pony? |
| 19:54.53 | TMc51 | Of course |
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| 19:55.09 | TMc51 | I'll be getting what I was never promised, but always deserved. :o |
| 19:56.12 | Dagmar | "for Pony!" |
| 19:56.20 | TMc51 | FOR PONY! |
| 19:56.22 | syrae | I would still love a "temporary tame" ability for druids in feral forms at some point. Basically a short term MC or something. |
| 19:56.45 | TMc51 | That would be too epic. |
| 19:56.50 | syrae | right |
| 19:56.54 | syrae | also, probably too damned OP |
| 19:56.57 | Dagmar | I've been asking for that for years. Blizz isn't havin' any |
| 19:56.58 | syrae | but still fun to imagine |
| 19:57.00 | TMc51 | IMO, remove Scare Beast, and replace it with Control Beast. |
| 19:57.19 | syrae | TMc51: did you notice that they removed Eyes of the Beast? |
| 19:57.29 | TMc51 | yeah =( |
| 19:57.40 | Dagmar | By the way, in case no one else has noticed, in 1000 Needles once you've activated the area and you've got the underwater bubble helmet and rocket shoes... |
| 19:57.47 | Dagmar | That speed buff affects vehicles as well. |
| 19:57.58 | syrae | haha |
| 19:57.58 | TMc51 | They also removed my Sentry Totem for my Shaman /cry |
| 19:58.07 | syrae | yup |
| 19:58.17 | Dagmar | Last night I jumped a whale shark in my mechgineers chopper. |
| 19:58.28 | syrae | Dagmar: O_o |
| 19:59.03 | Dagmar | syrae: You been to Thousand Needles yet? |
| 19:59.09 | syrae | Dagmar: grats on Jumping the Shark! |
| 19:59.14 | syrae | not yet |
| 19:59.15 | Dagmar | Exactly. :) |
| 19:59.17 | TMc51 | Sounds like your carreer is about over, Dag. You just admitted to jumping the shark. |
| 19:59.40 | Dagmar | Hey, I'm not the one who put the shark there. I'm just glad it was dead when I got there. |
| 19:59.48 | syrae | I've been cheating on my Reps. Timbermaw and Thorium Bro quests give soooo muuuuch rep now, and according to the game, I never did any of them. |
| 19:59.50 | TMc51 | haha |
| 20:00.08 | Dagmar | syrae: You probably didn't. |
| 20:00.17 | TMc51 | Where's that one shark with lasers on its head, being ridden by an Undead playing a guitar while standing on a raptor? |
| 20:00.25 | Dagmar | Thorium Brotherhood was a taser shot to the scrotum before |
| 20:00.34 | syrae | Well, there's a bunch I'm redoing because they changed before. |
| 20:01.23 | ccox | Hmm, Taurajo is burning, but the mailbox is still good.... |
| 20:01.25 | syrae | regardless, there's a lot of free rep that requires no grinding, so I've been doing that. Desolace has the brand new Cenarion Circle town, so that's a bit more freebies as well. |
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| 20:02.53 | Dagmar | I figured you'd have Cenarion maxed out from Zangarmarsh |
| 20:03.07 | TMc51 | different reps |
| 20:03.11 | syrae | Cenarion Circle != Cenarion Expedition |
| 20:03.11 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 20:03.18 | Dagmar | They're all long-eared hippies to me |
| 20:03.23 | syrae | heh |
| 20:03.40 | syrae | Cenarion Circle is the Silithus rep grind |
| 20:06.08 | Lunessa | TMc51: Epicus Maximus was (during beta) in the Maelstrom. |
| 20:07.38 | foxlit | I figured you'd have Cenarion maxed out from Silithus |
| 20:07.44 | foxlit | You did grind Silithus, right? Was all the rage! |
| 20:07.55 | airtonix | hoho |
| 20:08.37 | syrae | I'm not so big on the grinding |
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| 20:08.43 | syrae | or bumping for that matter |
| 20:09.18 | airtonix | maybe you should use lube |
| 20:09.22 | Arrowmaster | AQ20 was also a major Cenarion Circle rep source |
| 20:09.29 | airtonix | didn't see that coming? |
| 20:09.34 | syrae | I also didn't raid in Vanilla :P |
| 20:09.40 | Ackis | anyone here use wireless head phones? |
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| 20:09.59 | TMc51 | Ackis, I have a pair of wireless headphones |
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| 20:10.15 | Ackis | how are they comfort/size wise? |
| 20:10.19 | Ackis | and sound wise |
| 20:11.39 | TMc51 | Well, mine are an old bair of Bose headphones, so size- they're fairly large, but the cushioning is GREAT. Can'ty even tell they're there after a while. Sound is great, and I can go anywhere in the house and keep the signal. Newer headphones might be smaller, and, depending on the brand, you get what you pay for. |
| 20:11.44 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 20:11.50 | Ackis | sup Fisker |
| 20:12.56 | Ackis | I wonder how the Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset (G930) is |
| 20:13.03 | Lunessa | Ackis: I used to use an XBox wireless headset on my PC for vent/etc. It was pretty good, and you might even have one already. |
| 20:13.05 | airtonix | TMc51, you should try showering |
| 20:13.12 | airtonix | with them |
| 20:13.26 | Lopeppeppy | I have a logitech wireless headset somewhere or another, I like it muchly. |
| 20:13.45 | TMc51 | airtonix: not happenin |
| 20:14.07 | Ackis | I have the creative HS-1200's now, but the cats chewed the bluetooth dongle/charging cord on one set (Chantelles) and mine are starting to fall apart due to wear and tear |
| 20:14.11 | Fisker | i wouldn't Lopeppeppy |
| 20:14.18 | Fisker | i wouldn't Ackis |
| 20:14.27 | airtonix | TMc51, you have little faith i see |
| 20:14.38 | Industrial | cataclysma |
| 20:14.41 | Industrial | IM SO FUNNY |
| 20:14.45 | Industrial | (caps make it true) |
| 20:14.47 | airtonix | hoho |
| 20:14.55 | TMc51 | Not really. The shower is right next to me bedroom. Why bother with headphones when I can crank my speaker system up? =) |
| 20:15.12 | airtonix | TMc51, because if you wake me up i will be your demise |
| 20:16.39 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, my cat chews cords too! I never thought it was anything other than Moose's PICA at work! |
| 20:16.48 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: i did the same thing and used my xbox360 wireless headset for vent when my corded headphones broke, i still havent gotten a replacement though and the xbox360 headset doesnt work on linux yet |
| 20:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | She ate my iPhone cord, and a few Blackberry cords, and the plug for the humidifier (three prong plug!!!!), and a few other things. |
| 20:17.22 | Cairenn | one of my cats chews cords too |
| 20:17.36 | airtonix | sylvaan, :) |
| 20:17.36 | Lopeppeppy | Imagine, if you will, a cat with the cord of a three-prong plug sticking out of her mouth like a mouse-tail, and the entire plug in her mouth. |
| 20:17.38 | Cairenn | but he almost always goes for the various power cords |
| 20:17.48 | Dagmar | Right so, there's this stuff they sell at baby stores that's meant to keep little kiddies from chewing their fingernails |
| 20:17.50 | Lopeppeppy | I just about died, first of panic, then of laughter. |
| 20:17.50 | Cairenn | that are plugged in |
| 20:17.52 | Dagmar | It goes on like nail polich. |
| 20:17.55 | Dagmar | er polish. |
| 20:17.58 | Lunessa | I used mine for like 2 years, Arrowmaster, but it died and I haven't replaced it. |
| 20:18.03 | Dagmar | ...and it works with cats and power cables. |
| 20:18.09 | Cairenn | yeah? |
| 20:18.21 | airtonix | thats awesome |
| 20:18.23 | Dagmar | They'll go back to gnawing on their favorite chewey cables and make *such a face* |
| 20:18.36 | airtonix | oh the pictures! |
| 20:18.39 | Cairenn | hmmmmm |
| 20:18.54 | Cairenn | that sounds like a better idea than tabasco sauce |
| 20:19.01 | airtonix | ewww |
| 20:19.04 | TMc51 | What headsets do others use? Ackis isn't the only one currently in the market for a good set. I need a decent pair of cans, and currently looking at Creative Tactic3D Alphas. |
| 20:19.08 | airtonix | hows it going cleaning that up Cairenn |
| 20:19.26 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: maybe ill get lucky and with all the recent kinect hacking somebody will figure out how microsoft encodes their audio streams for the 360 hardware |
| 20:19.39 | Cairenn | haven't tried it yet, just been thinking about it, trying to come up with some way to get him to stop before he electrocutes himself |
| 20:20.00 | syrae | Cairenn: hot sauce |
| 20:20.06 | Cairenn | syrae: ^^ |
| 20:20.08 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:20.16 | Ackis | TMc51: I'll never buy another creative product if I can help it :) |
| 20:20.19 | airtonix | tobasco isn't that hot to be honest |
| 20:20.22 | syrae | hey look backscroll reading fail! |
| 20:20.25 | Dagmar | It can also attract bugs. |
| 20:20.41 | Cairenn | yup, which is why haven't actually done it yet |
| 20:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | I use a tiny bit of olive oil with a TON of cayenne pepper, but the nail biting polish is a good idea too. |
| 20:20.45 | nevcairiel | TMc51: i just got a Plantronics GameCom 777, didnt play much with it yet, because i was out this week, but it felt good so far |
| 20:20.52 | airtonix | you need pure raw chilli |
| 20:20.55 | syrae | but just the red chili pepper alone is also a good deterrant |
| 20:20.56 | Lunessa | I used to use stuff called "Bitter Apple" to prevent my pets from chewing things. |
| 20:21.09 | cogwheel | we used that too |
| 20:21.10 | Lopeppeppy | My cats don't like the bitter orange, it keeps them out from behind the book cases. |
| 20:21.12 | Ackis | Lunessa: we have the same stuff to spray them with when they're bad |
| 20:21.18 | Ackis | it tastes terrible fyi |
| 20:21.28 | Lunessa | ... I knew you would try it. |
| 20:21.29 | Lopeppeppy | some react "better" to bitter apple, some to bitter orange. |
| 20:21.38 | TMc51 | That's just mean, ackis. spraying them? seriously? |
| 20:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | Of course I tasted it, to know what my cats were stuck with! |
| 20:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | Durh. |
| 20:21.49 | syrae | I'd give just about anything to have my boy cat stop peeing on the carpet next to the door :( |
| 20:21.57 | Ackis | Lunessa: if I'm spraying my animals with some sort of chemical I want to see how it reacts in me :P |
| 20:22.06 | Ackis | hence why I've tasted frebreeze and lysol :( |
| 20:22.12 | Lunessa | syrae: That's probably a dominance/marking behavior. |
| 20:22.24 | Ackis | TMc51: why mean? when they jump somewhere they shouldn't be, we have a squirt bottle to spray them with |
| 20:22.25 | TMc51 | syrae: have him neutered. |
| 20:22.27 | sylvanaar_work | i read that as "freebase" |
| 20:22.27 | airtonix | i use a t88 chassis armed with a wide range of squirt bottles to keep the local varmint away from my precious. |
| 20:22.29 | Cairenn | syrae: neutered? |
| 20:22.31 | syrae | TMc51: he is |
| 20:22.31 | Ackis | better than hitting then with a stick |
| 20:22.48 | alestane | Cairenn: http://www.sluggy.com/comics/archives/daily/19970905 |
| 20:22.56 | Lunessa | needs a cat. |
| 20:23.15 | Cairenn | alestane: heh |
| 20:23.20 | TMc51 | Ackis: Not so much spraying, but with something that tastes horrible. A simple water battle with a spray nopzzle is more than enough. |
| 20:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | syrae, unfortunately he can smell it, and so he'll keep going there to mark territory. It sucketh. Boy cats are hard to break of that habit. |
| 20:23.43 | sylvanaar_work | neuter them |
| 20:24.08 | Lopeppeppy | If the cat already has the behavior, that's not going to change it. |
| 20:24.14 | syrae | Boy cat is neutered. He just goes and squats in the corner. >_< |
| 20:24.16 | airtonix | mind control! |
| 20:24.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, evil kitty. I'm sorry, syrae. They get that way sometimes... |
| 20:24.48 | Lunessa | You can steam clean the carpet and use a chemical to clean the stench out, but... |
| 20:24.58 | airtonix | steam clean the cat? |
| 20:25.04 | Lunessa | the carpet. |
| 20:25.06 | airtonix | oh |
| 20:25.06 | Lunessa | Not the cat. |
| 20:25.23 | nevcairiel | the cat would work too, i'm sure it wouldnt do it again afterwards |
| 20:25.51 | Cairenn | one of my former cats used to love being vaccummed |
| 20:25.53 | airtonix | you'd get rid of the fleas too |
| 20:25.54 | Fisker | braaaaaaaains |
| 20:25.57 | Cairenn | vacuumed? |
| 20:25.58 | Cairenn | whatever |
| 20:26.09 | airtonix | one of each letter |
| 20:26.16 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:26.23 | Cairenn | anyway, he liked it |
| 20:26.27 | airtonix | unless your fisker? |
| 20:26.46 | airtonix | is .... |
| 20:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie likes to be bathed. She loved her hot steamy towel wrap sessions. |
| 20:27.06 | Lopeppeppy | Purred happily the whole time. |
| 20:27.08 | Ackis | TMc51: some cats like water and will drink it (aka one of ours) |
| 20:27.39 | sylvanaar_work | im afraid to bathe my cat |
| 20:27.57 | sylvanaar_work | he is evil when he gets mad |
| 20:27.58 | Cairenn | he liked it so much that he made it damn near impossible to vacuum the house, he'd always get in the way trying to get us to use it on him |
| 20:28.21 | sylvanaar_work | thats really funny Cairenn |
| 20:28.24 | syrae | mmm |
| 20:28.28 | Cairenn | it was hilarious |
| 20:28.37 | Cairenn | (and annoying) |
| 20:28.39 | sylvanaar_work | im going to use the hand-vac on mine tonight |
| 20:28.49 | sylvanaar_work | see how that works out... |
| 20:28.52 | TMc51 | Ackis: From experience with many cats over the years, they hate getting wet. Spraying them and getting them a little wet typically works, but if your cat likes it, then yeah, I guess it makes sense to use something else. |
| 20:29.08 | syrae | I'm pretty terrible about keeping my house clean. I'm tempted to hire a maid service, but I'm cluttered enough that I'm not sure how well that'd work |
| 20:29.11 | Lopeppeppy | Canned air freaks both of mine right the heck out. |
| 20:29.35 | sylvanaar_work | mine freaks out if you look at him |
| 20:29.41 | Lunessa | I just learned to hiss very convincingly at my cats when they misbehaved. |
| 20:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | I do hiss at them, but if I pick up the canned air, Moose RUNS for the hills. She knows it means bizniz. |
| 20:30.13 | TMc51 | Lopeppeppy: Canned air FTW. Use it upright fior the cats, then for other people, flip it upside down and spray. |
| 20:30.25 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 20:30.32 | airtonix | sideways? |
| 20:30.39 | wereHamster | canned.. spam ? How do cats react to that? |
| 20:30.49 | nevcairiel | is there any other kind of spam? |
| 20:31.05 | airtonix | Taiwanese Spam |
| 20:31.18 | TMc51 | Probably the same way humans do, wereHamster. A one-way ticket to the can. |
| 20:31.23 | sylvanaar_work | trade spam |
| 20:32.25 | Ackis | will I notice a difference in 5.1 -> 7.1 headset? |
| 20:32.33 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:32.44 | airtonix | you know |
| 20:32.45 | nevcairiel | with most headsets you wont even really notice the 5.1 |
| 20:32.47 | Lunessa | There's this kind of Spam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg |
| 20:32.49 | airtonix | since you only have 2 speakers |
| 20:32.50 | TMc51 | not at all, Ackis. |
| 20:33.06 | nevcairiel | airtonix: some actually come with 2 per ear |
| 20:33.11 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, i was wondering how a headset could be 7.1 |
| 20:33.14 | Arrowmaster | only 2? |
| 20:33.19 | TMc51 | Even with a simulated 5.1 you won't tell much of a difference. A true surround headset with 8 speakers or so, you will, but others you won't. |
| 20:33.35 | Arrowmaster | i remember when the first 5.1 headset came out it had 8 speakers total i think |
| 20:33.38 | sylvanaar_work | links |
| 20:33.46 | nevcairiel | there are some sound algorithms to emulate a 3d feeling with stereo speakers |
| 20:33.49 | nevcairiel | but it sucks |
| 20:34.22 | nevcairiel | even with multiple speakers, they are that close to the ear, that you wont get the proper "room" feeling |
| 20:34.25 | TMc51 | Arrowmaster: Yeah, real surround headsets have the multiple speakers, but most that are marketed as 5.1 or 7.1 these days are virtual surround. Stereo headsets with some sort of fake surround emulation that barely, if at all works. |
| 20:34.51 | Arrowmaster | i just wish i could wire a digital audio input up to my motherboard, the chip supposedly supports one but theres no interface for it |
| 20:35.07 | Arrowmaster | then maybe i could get more than stereo out of my consoles |
| 20:35.22 | nevcairiel | why do you hook your consoles up to your pc |
| 20:35.26 | unfo- | any suggestions for addon that just lets me move the blizz unitframes around (mainly target) |
| 20:35.34 | Arrowmaster | because i have pc speakers |
| 20:35.55 | Arrowmaster | with 5.1 analog only connection |
| 20:35.56 | TMc51 | unfo-: You can try MoveAnything. It should move the ones you want, as well as everything else. |
| 20:36.00 | Ackis | apparently this headset I'm looking at has "voice morphing" |
| 20:36.04 | nevcairiel | so get a receiver |
| 20:36.05 | unfo- | TMc51, thanks! |
| 20:36.15 | TMc51 | Ackis: What headset? |
| 20:36.27 | Ackis | "here are six settings from which to choose: troll, mutant, alien, giant, cyborg and "space squirrel."" |
| 20:36.30 | nevcairiel | it isnt the official WoW headset, is it :p |
| 20:36.38 | Ackis | TMc51: Logitech G930 |
| 20:36.38 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i would need to find a receiver that has analog input and output |
| 20:36.51 | Ackis | official wow headset is made by creative I think |
| 20:36.54 | Ackis | aka it's a piece of shit |
| 20:36.57 | nevcairiel | everything has analog output |
| 20:36.59 | TMc51 | Ahhh, nice. Isn't that the $120 wireless surround sound headset? |
| 20:37.10 | Ackis | $170 |
| 20:37.23 | TMc51 | Ahh, $120 must be for the wired one. |
| 20:37.23 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: analog output like a computer, not analog output to each individual speaker |
| 20:37.27 | Ackis | err $180 CDN, $150 US |
| 20:37.34 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: there are adapaters for that |
| 20:37.45 | nevcairiel | its just a different connector |
| 20:37.46 | Arrowmaster | yes and the only one i ever found was discontinued |
| 20:38.02 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 20:38.08 | syrae | Because nothing makes things clearer than two different currencies using the same currency symbol |
| 20:38.17 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B003VANOFY |
| 20:38.17 | nevcairiel | Or just cut the connectors off, and directly hook up the proper ones :p |
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| 20:38.33 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: not possible with my speakers |
| 20:38.51 | nevcairiel | i'm sure it is |
| 20:39.09 | nevcairiel | analog speaker connections are all the same |
| 20:39.36 | Arrowmaster | the sub and the amp are in the same unit, the 3 3.5mm cables from the computer plug into the sub and then each satellite speaker plugs into the sub |
| 20:40.12 | nevcairiel | so, plug speakers directly into the receiver (which has its own amp), and use the sub pre-out and connect your sub |
| 20:40.40 | sylvanaar_work | only higher end recievers have pre-out |
| 20:40.51 | nevcairiel | depends what you call higher end |
| 20:40.59 | sylvanaar_work | sure |
| 20:41.37 | Gagorian | plus if the subwoofer is doing its own crossover filtering for the speakers it will mess that up |
| 20:42.01 | Arrowmaster | i want a $100 solution, otherwise i would just go out and buy new speakers, and probably a soundcard that can do dolby digital live |
| 20:42.48 | nevcairiel | my onboard can do it :) |
| 20:42.55 | sylvanaar_work | are soundcards really that much better |
| 20:43.07 | Arrowmaster | my onboard in my old nforce2 motherboard can do it |
| 20:43.12 | nevcairiel | the important part is the D/A unit |
| 20:43.19 | nevcairiel | which i dont use in my onboard, because i use optical out |
| 20:43.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont think my onboard in my x58 mobo can |
| 20:43.45 | nevcairiel | bad choice for a board, then =) |
| 20:43.54 | nevcairiel | but yeah, the mobo manufacs have to license it individually |
| 20:44.10 | Gagorian | soundcards are a lot better |
| 20:44.15 | sylvanaar_work | what board do you have Arrowmaster |
| 20:44.33 | Arrowmaster | asus p6t7 ws supercomputer |
| 20:44.36 | sylvanaar_work | Gagorian: you'd think that the best solution would be off the pc |
| 20:44.43 | nevcairiel | Gagorian: i dont think there is much of a difference if you just use digital out |
| 20:44.46 | airtonix | Dagmar, have you used those picoLCDs ? |
| 20:44.53 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: digital out is identical, indeed |
| 20:45.11 | Dagmar | airtonix: Not yet |
| 20:45.36 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: But then you need a receiver even if you have active speakers |
| 20:45.44 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:46.21 | Gagorian | I use HDMI for my receiver and a Auzentech Bravura 7.1 for my computer set |
| 20:46.42 | nevcairiel | i have my pc connected via toslink to my receiver, as well as some analog head phones. I don't really care for the last few bits of sound quality when using the headphones only for voice chat |
| 20:47.12 | Gagorian | What's great with a good sound card is you get a proper headphone amp |
| 20:47.27 | Gagorian | That can drive some better headphones than an onboard sound ever could |
| 20:47.33 | Gagorian | Plus obviously better SNR ratios |
| 20:47.42 | Gagorian | err SN-ratio |
| 20:47.54 | nevcairiel | just SNR :d |
| 20:47.59 | Gagorian | or that |
| 20:47.59 | Gagorian | :D |
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| 20:48.25 | Gagorian | I tried to open it slightly if people aren't familiar with the acronym |
| 20:48.51 | nevcairiel | i have a spare asus xonar somewhere, which i put out of business when my HTPC got a gfx card with hdmi audio |
| 20:49.02 | nevcairiel | supposedly its D/A is better as well |
| 20:49.03 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 20:49.08 | nevcairiel | its jut for voice chat |
| 20:49.12 | Gagorian | Myeah |
| 20:49.39 | Gagorian | I watch about half of my series/movies on my computer so I prefer having a good sound system |
| 20:49.44 | Gagorian | cba to go to the living room all the time |
| 20:49.57 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: where did you find a graphics card with hdmi audio? i thought they all just used a spdif passthrough from the sound card? |
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| 20:50.08 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: thats ages ago |
| 20:50.23 | Arrowmaster | really? all the nvidia ones are still like that afaik |
| 20:50.24 | Gagorian | Any recentish ATI card does that |
| 20:50.28 | nevcairiel | all 5xxx series AMD and most newer nvidias support it |
| 20:50.53 | Arrowmaster | ive got a 275 GTX that uses passthrough |
| 20:51.04 | Gagorian | Even DTS-HD or TrueHD bitstreaming |
| 20:51.12 | nevcairiel | all fermi chips support it, although the 480/580 only does 7.1 PCM, no HD audio streaming |
| 20:51.17 | Fisker | one day |
| 20:51.26 | nevcairiel | but the 460 and smaller ones do that as well |
| 20:51.38 | nevcairiel | some of the "newer" 2xx series do as well |
| 20:51.42 | nevcairiel | the 240, 220, 210 |
| 20:51.44 | nevcairiel | for example |
| 20:51.57 | Fisker | one day nevcairiel |
| 20:51.59 | sylvanaar_work | any of you get the G510 keyboard yet? |
| 20:52.00 | Arrowmaster | does that do dolby digital live too? |
| 20:52.07 | Arrowmaster | i would guess that it would have to |
| 20:52.09 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: No |
| 20:52.16 | nevcairiel | its full 7.1 PCM over hdmi |
| 20:52.21 | nevcairiel | no need to pack it into ac3 |
| 20:52.25 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 20:53.00 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: If the G15 is any indication, it'll be worth every goddamn penny |
| 20:53.19 | sylvanaar_work | it looks nice, and has onboard usb audio |
| 20:53.24 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: The only reason I *haven't* ordered one yet is that my original G15 is still kicking ass |
| 20:53.26 | Fisker | what g510 keyboard? |
| 20:53.30 | nevcairiel | a keyboard with audio? |
| 20:53.36 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002530-Gaming-Keyboard-G510/dp/B003VAK16O |
| 20:53.38 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 20:53.42 | sylvanaar_work | looks awesome |
| 20:53.50 | Fisker | noty.jpg |
| 20:53.54 | nevcairiel | at least it has the full 18 keys again |
| 20:54.04 | nevcairiel | didnt like the 6 key version |
| 20:54.15 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: So you know how I've said my USB headset has basically a USB dongle that you plug 3.5mm connections into? They built a new successor to the G15 and built one of those directly into it |
| 20:54.25 | TMc51 | That's why I went with a G11 over the "new" G15 back when I bought my keyboard. |
| 20:54.29 | Dagmar | You ;plug your headset into it and it activates the USB audio chipset in the keyboard |
| 20:54.42 | nevcairiel | yeah, i broke my first-gen G15 with some liquid accident |
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| 20:54.43 | Dagmar | Six keys only was a bad move |
| 20:54.47 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i have one of those somewhere that came with a minidisc player |
| 20:54.52 | nevcairiel | got a G11 as replacement because the new G15 sucked |
| 20:55.09 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: I spilt some OJ in mine but I rushed it to the sink and rinsed it out well enough |
| 20:55.10 | sylvanaar_work | i dont need the LCD though |
| 20:55.12 | Fisker | i came Arrowmaster |
| 20:55.17 | Fisker | with a minidisc player |
| 20:55.25 | Fisker | gross Dagmar |
| 20:55.32 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_work: Actually, you do. You jus tdon't realize it yet. The ventrilo plugin shows you who is talking |
| 20:55.33 | Fisker | you spilt oj simpson in your keyboard? |
| 20:55.55 | sylvanaar_work | well, i have a keyboard tray on my desk, and it slides out of view |
| 20:55.59 | greppy | Dagmar: I have a screen overlay that tells me who is talking on vent :) |
| 20:56.19 | nevcairiel | i have a second screen where i just drag the vent/ts window |
| 20:56.23 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:56.28 | Fisker | vent/ts sucks |
| 20:56.28 | greppy | showoff! lol |
| 20:56.35 | greppy | mumble? |
| 20:56.41 | Dagmar | I'm trying to get my people to start using Mumble |
| 20:56.51 | TMc51 | Eh, Vent sucks, but I like the new Teamspeak. |
| 20:57.00 | Dagmar | I gotta figure out WTF Windows is screwing up with it first tho |
| 20:57.13 | greppy | I'm thinking about trying to get my guild to use mumble... we'll see. |
| 20:57.54 | sylvanaar_work | my keycaps are all losing their paint |
| 20:58.11 | nevcairiel | thats what happens when you get painted ones |
| 20:58.15 | sylvanaar_work | on my g11 |
| 20:59.40 | sylvanaar_work | i guess this is the new G11, http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B002RRLQIO |
| 21:00.33 | sylvanaar_work | i like it actually at 1/2 the price |
| 21:00.35 | Dagmar | I don't get how people manage to have hteir keycaps go bald |
| 21:00.47 | Dagmar | I have Serious Fingernails and mine haven't shown any sign of that |
| 21:00.48 | nevcairiel | its also ugly |
| 21:01.08 | Dagmar | Maybe seriously acidic skin oils or chronically dirty hands or somethin' |
| 21:01.14 | greppy | Dagmar: I've worn the type off of keyboards, and so has my wife :) it partially depends on the keyboard. |
| 21:01.22 | sylvanaar_work | i have oily skin |
| 21:01.43 | greppy | some keyboards are seriously cheap when it comes to the lettering. |
| 21:01.49 | Nobgul | I have already put key overlays on my g15 2 times. |
| 21:01.53 | Dagmar | greppy: Yeah I used to use a Zippy EL-10 (you saw Toshiko on Torchwood usin htem) and both times I bought one I'd scratched the letters off half the keycaps within a year |
| 21:02.03 | Nobgul | sylvaan, They sell the stickers for like 5$ per pack.... |
| 21:02.14 | nevcairiel | If you get keys which have the letters as laser cuts, they usually hold quite long. On glowing buttons like the G15, i dont see how they can ever not glow anymore |
| 21:02.33 | greppy | thankfully, I touch type (yay, thanks IRC!) so it doesn't bother me most of the time if I get on a keyboard that is missing some letters. |
| 21:03.08 | Nobgul | greppy, it just looks ugly as all hell lol |
| 21:03.11 | syrae | Dagmar: wow... you noticed what keyboard Toshiko was using?!? |
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| 21:03.26 | Dagmar | syrae: When it's the keyboard I've been using for a few years, yeah |
| 21:03.27 | Arrowmaster | ive got an original saitek eclipse and some of the letters are wearing off, but it backlit with transparent lettering so the keys are transparent and painted, not colored plastic |
| 21:03.29 | Dagmar | It catches my attention |
| 21:03.33 | syrae | O_o |
| 21:03.57 | Dagmar | Ther'es a picture here http://techreport.com/articles.x/5054/2 |
| 21:04.03 | syrae | Arrowmaster: ditto |
| 21:04.54 | Dagmar | I got it originally because it was cheap and I needed a replacement in a hurry, and then I kept using it because I never used the numpad (it didn't have) anymore and the half-height keys were giving me an advantage at wasd shooters |
| 21:04.55 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: eww no numpad |
| 21:05.09 | Dagmar | So... When I see it being used on Torchwood I definitely laughed |
| 21:05.16 | syrae | heh |
| 21:05.38 | Lunessa | I keep thinking I'll get a new keyboard 'cause my MS ergo one is wearing out. |
| 21:05.52 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It's basically an EL-backlit notebook keyboard, so if you're using a notebook all the time (like I was) it actually makes a lot of sense |
| 21:06.13 | unfo- | anyone know if there is any performance diff between bartender4 and dominos?= |
| 21:06.15 | Arrowmaster | i think ill get a das keyboard next time i need a replacement |
| 21:06.16 | Dagmar | I think they used it on Torchwood because it was all "blue and futury-lookin" |
| 21:06.45 | syrae | I read that as "furry-lookin" |
| 21:06.58 | Dagmar | Euw no |
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| 21:07.00 | sylvanaar_work | i think im going to get the g110 |
| 21:07.24 | Nobgul | I don't like the look of it |
| 21:07.36 | Dagmar | I wish they'd put the spinwheel back on the things |
| 21:07.48 | Dagmar | That's incredbly handy for quickly adjusting volume |
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| 21:08.11 | Dagmar | Yer fingers can _easily_ tell when they're on the spinwheel as opposed to one of the many, many buttons |
| 21:08.59 | Arrowmaster | what did the spin wheel do? |
| 21:09.17 | Nobgul | Turn up and down the volume. |
| 21:09.28 | Nobgul | But you can reprogram it to do whatever |
| 21:09.30 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 21:10.06 | Dagmar | I kept hoping to find a module to use it as a seeking control but didn't really have any luck |
| 21:10.20 | Dagmar | Strictly speaking it wouldn't have been very good at that anyway |
| 21:10.52 | Nobgul | I stoped using my g keys on mine a long time ago |
| 21:11.27 | Nobgul | Switching between a laptop and a mydesktop i would find myself going for the gkeys on the laptop. |
| 21:11.30 | Dagmar | G4, G5, G6 == deterrence, disengage, feign death |
| 21:12.04 | Nobgul | Ah i got trivial stuff on it. Rez button a macro for vent etc. but nothing to enhance my gameplay |
| 21:12.24 | Dagmar | Hunters have wayyyy too many buttons that they can call on in fights |
| 21:12.45 | Dagmar | You've got your basic 6-7 for fighting, and then almost as many more situationals |
| 21:12.53 | Dagmar | ...and that's not even including traps |
| 21:13.29 | Fisker | oooooooh |
| 21:13.36 | mascondante | can someone with an IRC that allows avatars check to see if mine is working properly now? |
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| 21:13.50 | Fisker | Julian Assange went totally Jimmy Wales on our asses |
| 21:14.07 | mascondante | Preferably KVIrc |
| 21:14.10 | Jamash | he wants money? |
| 21:15.48 | Fisker | http://213.251.145.96/ <-he has a banner |
| 21:15.56 | airtonix | lubes fisker |
| 21:17.34 | Industrial | tosses a pink dildo in the middle and hides behind the glass |
| 21:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | Oh... dear. |
| 21:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | All that I could forgive. But Debbie... pastels? |
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| 21:19.26 | Fisker | i once killed a pink dildo Sixen |
| 21:19.31 | Dagmar | Awesome |
| 21:19.35 | Dagmar | A new IRC client to torment. |
| 21:19.45 | Fisker | don't torment irc clients |
| 21:19.51 | Fisker | what have they done to you? |
| 21:19.54 | alestane | That line rigns a bell, Lopeppeppy. |
| 21:20.10 | Dagmar | not given me the opportunity to rule 34 strangers nearly often enough |
| 21:20.13 | Dagmar | That's what they've done |
| 21:20.35 | Dagmar | sorry... s/34/30/ |
| 21:21.10 | alestane | Ah, Morticia Addams. |
| 21:21.15 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, the second Addams Family movie. |
| 21:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, beloved monkeys. I pack up for home now. Stay good until Monday, or no bananas. |
| 21:23.24 | Dagmar | Speaking of monkeys, I can't believe they named a bonobo in STV "Spanks" |
| 21:24.11 | Industrial | habeeb it |
| 21:24.28 | Dagmar | Industrial: KVIRC has support for dancing, pulsating goatses er... i mean kittens. Can you b'lieev it? |
| 21:33.32 | Fisker | sylvanaar |
| 21:33.36 | Fisker | i don't think i can survive this |
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| 21:35.15 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I can. I certainly can. I mean this is a company that routinely gives us a "rummage through poop" quest every expansion. |
| 21:35.30 | airtonix | relubes fisker |
| 21:36.21 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I still think the poop is nothing. |
| 21:36.31 | Industrial | Dagmar: and bitchx ctcp stamps :p |
| 21:36.36 | Dagmar | The new ice cream in Thousand Needles, now that is disturbing |
| 21:36.39 | Fisker | i once killed a guy airtonix |
| 21:36.50 | Dagmar | Industrial: No, I am acutally running BitchX. |
| 21:36.59 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I'm just sick of this shit. *rimshot* |
| 21:37.10 | Fisker | bitchx sucks |
| 21:37.11 | Arrowmaster | why are you using BitchX? |
| 21:37.16 | airtonix | to annoy you |
| 21:37.31 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Seriously tho. Ice cream flavored with dead, waterlogged gnome. Yech |
| 21:37.47 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: 1) Because it works, and 2) because it works under screen. |
| 21:38.02 | Arrowmaster | irssi works under screen fine |
| 21:38.07 | Dagmar | ...and 3) it's been working for over a decade now just fine |
| 21:38.30 | Arrowmaster | i have irssi startup inside screen automatically on boot |
| 21:38.49 | Dagmar | I'm not interested in seeing "suprises" appear on my screen because it's trying to support crazy-ass unicode glyphs |
| 21:39.00 | Dagmar | That's a big one, actually |
| 21:39.23 | Arrowmaster | you arent using putty are you? |
| 21:39.42 | syrae | Interrobangâ½ |
| 21:39.56 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I am sometimes |
| 21:40.14 | Fisker | help me |
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| 21:40.58 | airtonix | QUIET! |
| 21:41.03 | airtonix | gaffles fisker |
| 21:41.03 | Fisker | HELP ME |
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| 21:41.17 | Fisker | there was a man in my house |
| 21:41.29 | airtonix | you loved it |
| 21:41.45 | Fisker | no |
| 21:42.06 | Industrial | thats what she said |
| 21:42.15 | Industrial | but then we accidentally the whole night |
| 21:42.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I am more concerned with actual exploits related to parsing of non-ASCII charsets than I am with "noise" on my screen |
| 21:42.50 | Dagmar | The solution: F**k non-ASCII. ;) |
| 21:43.04 | Arrowmaster | yes like how i exploited putty to mess with Shirik head once |
| 21:43.06 | Ackis | If your cat is in the bathroom when you take a shower, don't bend over to reach for the shampoo so that your butt touches the shower curtain. Scratch marks in your hands are bad enough. #LFMF |
| 21:43.20 | Sixen1 | lol.. |
| 21:43.21 | Industrial | lolackis |
| 21:43.26 | Dagmar | There's some fun stuff relating to digits in there, too. |
| 21:43.40 | Dagmar | Like glyphs that are specifically (for whatever reason) boldface versions of normal numbers. |
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| 21:43.52 | Industrial | thats something different then when someone opens the hot valve somewhere else in the house :P |
| 21:43.53 | Dagmar | A \d regexp will match them. |
| 21:43.55 | Fisker | fuck off #twitterhashesandretardedacronymssuck |
| 21:44.07 | Dagmar | Adding them to say, plain, ordinary ASCII 5 however... bad juju |
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| 21:44.25 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:44.30 | Fisker | you know all those guys i once killed? |
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| 21:44.40 | Fisker | They used twitter hashes just like you |
| 21:45.30 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you arent using putty right now are you? |
| 21:45.37 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I am |
| 21:45.55 | airtonix | lol |
| 21:46.16 | Arrowmaster | lets test something, what number do you see here: 42 |
| 21:46.22 | Dagmar | I see 42. |
| 21:46.27 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 21:46.36 | Ackis | Fisker: #ilu |
| 21:47.03 | Fisker | die die die |
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| 21:49.13 | Shirik | Arrowmaster o.o? |
| 21:49.18 | Shirik | oh right |
| 21:49.20 | Shirik | I remember that ._. |
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| 21:55.44 | Arrowmaster | so im taking my Network+ exam on monday, anybody got suggestions on what to use to prep for it? |
| 21:56.50 | nicoli_s | cheating? |
| 21:56.57 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: what's it about? |
| 21:57.02 | Ackis | cheat sheet |
| 21:57.26 | Arrowmaster | not cheating, but for review |
| 21:57.41 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: Organize a school wide demonstration against "The EXTINCTION of IPv4 Address space" |
| 21:57.48 | cbreak | so you have more time to prepare |
| 21:58.20 | Arrowmaster | im guessing i could probably pass it even if i just went in and winged it but i would rather not try that since it cost me $497 total for the two exam registrations (Network+ and Security+) |
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| 22:01.01 | cbreak | what's it about? Network administration? Or networking theory? |
| 22:01.14 | cbreak | or network programming? |
| 22:01.29 | Arrowmaster | mostly admin i think |
| 22:01.59 | Arrowmaster | i found a practice test online that im taking now |
| 22:02.35 | Lunessa | R.O.F.L. - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/12/3/ |
| 22:02.40 | Dagmar | Just dig up a prep book |
| 22:03.09 | Dagmar | I'm gonna go grab my A+ next week for sure and I'm now considering deliberately taking the Network+ immediately after |
| 22:03.32 | Dagmar | I'm just trying to find out how much windows desktop bullshit is involved |
| 22:03.49 | nicoli_s | im so glad i got to skipo all that shit |
| 22:04.20 | Dagmar | I find it a little offensive when I see crap like which part of the control panel you should click on to set a netmask on a Windows machine |
| 22:04.31 | Dagmar | ...on something that's supposed to be for _network administrators_ |
| 22:04.37 | Arrowmaster | i took the 2007 version of the A+ and it didnt have that much windows specific stuff on it like that |
| 22:04.41 | Dagmar | Network administrators use freaking DHCP servers |
| 22:05.07 | greppy | some of us do :) |
| 22:05.11 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I was told they dropped the "1xx POST CODE" questions |
| 22:05.22 | cbreak | yay for being a programmer... :) |
| 22:05.39 | Dagmar | ...which is the main reason I'm even consenting to allow myself to be "measured" by the A+ |
| 22:06.11 | airtonix | Dagmar, you will submit to the new world order |
| 22:06.26 | airtonix | or you will be ridiculed |
| 22:06.40 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.51 | Lunessa | If I would just knuckle under and go get A+ I'd be able to demand more money from my employer. But... I dislike being labeled with the stupids. |
| 22:11.40 | Arrowmaster | CompTIA's A+, Network+, and Security+ are changing from lifetime to renewal on january 1st 2011 |
| 22:11.44 | Dagmar | Yeah, I've seen some "A+ certified" people who I wouldn't count on being able to change a floppy drive without fucking it up |
| 22:11.57 | Dagmar | I have not been in any hurry to tack those letters after my name |
| 22:12.31 | Dagmar | I play on par with boys who have entire alphabets after theirs. I'll stick with no letters and either you know I have the skills or you're not wasting my time |
| 22:12.39 | Arrowmaster | well im unemployed still so getting them can only help me |
| 22:12.41 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I've seen them who couldn't figure out how to use a mouse or apparently anything else computer related. |
| 22:13.05 | greppy | has been too busy doing his job to take classes or get certs to do his job. |
| 22:13.34 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I was turned down by BestBuy some years ago for being overqualified |
| 22:13.55 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: will that be retroactive or only for new certs? |
| 22:13.58 | Dagmar | ...which was sad. I enjoyed doing on-site repair of "bloody well everything" |
| 22:14.07 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Only new certs |
| 22:14.07 | airtonix | hi i have a+ and our firewall is made with visualbasic. |
| 22:14.09 | Arrowmaster | i have a college degree, its only an associate degree but i still think that qualifies as overqualified for bestbuy |
| 22:14.12 | Dagmar | So... get 'em while you can |
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| 22:14.42 | cogwheel | got mine in 2001 |
| 22:14.50 | Dagmar | Good enough then |
| 22:15.48 | Dagmar | SFW (and hilarious) http://tom.net.nz/uploads/banned-from-kmart.jpg |
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| 22:17.50 | airtonix | ok |
| 22:17.55 | airtonix | fake |
| 22:18.13 | Dagmar | Still funny! |
| 22:18.26 | airtonix | there is no kmart store in summit ridge |
| 22:18.27 | Dagmar | The alarm clocks thing I've done before |
| 22:18.52 | alestane | Lunessa (Dagmar): http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030117.html |
| 22:19.29 | Dagmar | I dunno. I think the wire brush will do the trick. |
| 22:20.02 | Dagmar | airtonix: By the way... |
| 22:20.12 | airtonix | yes dear? |
| 22:20.21 | Fisker | i did it airtonix |
| 22:20.24 | airtonix | do you need more lube? |
| 22:21.06 | Dagmar | airtonix: Search for the store's phone number. |
| 22:21.43 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 22:23.37 | Dagmar | airtonix: It actually used to exist. It's just gone now. |
| 22:23.42 | airtonix | told you |
| 22:23.45 | airtonix | :) |
| 22:24.10 | Fisker | man this is awesome |
| 22:24.15 | airtonix | inorite? |
| 22:24.19 | Fisker | i got starfall which means i can pull a lot of mobs and die |
| 22:24.26 | Fisker | and i got tree of life form which means i'm ugly |
| 22:28.10 | TC-Work | no Fisker, you are ugly on the inside |
| 22:29.10 | Fisker | of your mom |
| 22:35.52 | airtonix | Fisker, i thought only americans say mom? and the rest of the english speaking world says mum. |
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| 22:50.42 | Lunessa | But all gamers say "your mom" 'cause they learned it while playing teh haloz bitches. |
| 22:50.50 | Jamash | I've never played halo online |
| 22:51.13 | Lunessa | Your mom never played halo online! |
| 22:51.17 | Jamash | BAM |
| 22:51.19 | Jamash | also true |
| 22:51.24 | airtonix | Lunessa, in australia we just say "So's ya mum" |
| 22:51.26 | Jamash | my mom doesn't own an xbox |
| 22:51.55 | airtonix | Lunessa, or "Yeah i used to have one of those, but the wheels fell off" |
| 22:51.56 | Lunessa | airtonix: That might have something to do with the giant gaping hole in the ozone layer over your heads. |
| 22:52.27 | Lunessa | (is now talking gamer trash, for no apparently good reason) |
| 22:52.33 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 22:52.43 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/item=16217 |
| 22:52.48 | Industrial | the npc selling this (horde) doesnt |
| 22:52.54 | Industrial | at least, the items isnt here now for 2 hours |
| 22:52.57 | Lulia | If I have an OnMouseOver for two frames, does it choose the one on top? |
| 22:52.58 | Industrial | :| what do I do |
| 22:53.10 | Industrial | I'm supposed to be leveling 40 levels of enchanting with this and already got the mats |
| 22:53.16 | Jamash | ouch |
| 22:53.18 | Lulia | Is there any way for me to know that there's two frames the mouse is over? |
| 22:53.36 | Lunessa | Lulia: You can use /framestack |
| 22:53.41 | Lunessa | for debugging |
| 22:53.46 | airtonix | stacks Lunessas frames |
| 22:54.04 | airtonix | that'll hurt without lube |
| 22:54.05 | Lunessa | your mom stacks my frames |
| 22:54.09 | Jamash | I debugged your mom's frame stack |
| 22:54.23 | Sixen | burned |
| 22:54.34 | Lunessa | We're all going to hell. |
| 22:54.35 | airtonix | primitives |
| 22:54.42 | Jamash | her z-ordering was undefined |
| 22:54.43 | airtonix | you're already there |
| 22:54.50 | Lunessa | you have apoint. |
| 22:54.54 | Lulia | Well, I meant in the code :P |
| 22:55.00 | TMc51 | Lunessa: What do you mean "going to hell"? We're all already there! |
| 22:55.05 | airtonix | old |
| 22:55.11 | Jamash | TMc51: type faster |
| 22:55.18 | Jamash | the natives are gaining |
| 22:55.29 | TMc51 | Your mom should type faster. |
| 22:55.36 | airtonix | time to put the retrovirus into effect |
| 22:55.47 | TMc51 | that's what she said. |
| 22:56.02 | TMc51 | a'ight, I'm done. |
| 22:56.02 | airtonix | keep it up you porch-monkey |
| 22:56.03 | Jamash | TMc51: terrible |
| 22:56.42 | TMc51 | Hey, watch what you're saying, air. Around here, PM is no different than dropping the N-bomb. |
| 22:57.01 | airtonix | yesyes |
| 22:57.05 | airtonix | return to your cage |
| 22:57.48 | Dagmar | If you actually lived in the south you'd know it's not a racist term, you freaking carpetbagger |
| 22:58.11 | Lunessa | I live in the "south" and if I used that term, I'd be lynched |
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| 22:58.21 | TMc51 | I live in Georgia 3 months out of every year. |
| 22:58.34 | Dagmar | Then you've got too many people who believe the shit they see in the movies |
| 22:58.43 | Dagmar | I have genuinely racist relatives |
| 22:58.48 | Dagmar | Try Columbia Tennessee sometime |
| 22:59.04 | TMc51 | I'm racist. EXTREMELY racist. |
| 22:59.07 | TMc51 | Every human needs to die. |
| 22:59.11 | Dagmar | Their *phone number prefixes* pretty much tell someone whether you live in the black or the white part of town |
| 22:59.28 | Dagmar | Porch monkeys are just lazy idlers |
| 23:00.02 | Dagmar | I've heard my aunts call the entire family that before to get them off the actual porch and into the house working on t'giving dinner |
| 23:00.32 | TMc51 | all I know is, around here, if I said that, I'd be shot. |
| 23:01.47 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/follow_friday |
| 23:01.59 | Lunessa | And on this cheery note, I'm off for a weekend of debauchery and excess... or at least WoW. |
| 23:02.16 | airtonix | take lube |
| 23:03.38 | Jamash | zenzelezz: twitter is bad |
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| 23:09.29 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder. How does the "Detect Wow mouse" checkbox know it's supposed to be enabled? |
| 23:09.33 | foxlit | s/enabled/checked/ |
| 23:10.56 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: "Which of the following replaces the destination IP address of a packet?" SNAT, NAT, DNS, DHCP |
| 23:11.06 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: from the practice exam im taking |
| 23:11.33 | Dagmar | Awesome. Two correct answers. My favorite. |
| 23:11.50 | Dagmar | I'll wager they only want NAT tho |
| 23:12.03 | Dagmar | That's my worst problem with the stupider tests. |
| 23:12.03 | Arrowmaster | correct answer was SNAT which ive never even heard of before |
| 23:12.21 | Dagmar | Secure NAT, which is basically buzzword bullshit |
| 23:12.30 | Dagmar | They BOTH change the destination address on return packets |
| 23:12.42 | Dagmar | NAT could be doing it in either direction tho |
| 23:12.55 | Dagmar | s/change/can change/ |
| 23:13.07 | Dagmar | http://www.networkworld.com/details/766.html |
| 23:13.23 | Dagmar | "SNAT provides a secure mechanism for translating internal, nonroutable addresses into routable addresses." |
| 23:13.52 | Dagmar | makes a rude gesture simliar to milking a cow |
| 23:14.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah that doesnt really explain how its different from NAT and PAT |
| 23:14.37 | Zhinjio | "secure"?? |
| 23:14.40 | Dagmar | As far as I know it's a bullshit term Microsoft cooked up |
| 23:15.06 | Dagmar | I've only seen it in docs relating to their crap. Everyone else has no problems talking about NAT and DNAT like normal people |
| 23:15.37 | Arrowmaster | DNAT? |
| 23:15.57 | Dagmar | Without context they could have been talking about Source Network Address Translation which is yet another thing |
| 23:16.31 | Dagmar | Dynamic Network Address Translation, which as far as I know suffers from no acronym collisions. Also known as "just f**king packet masquerading, man" |
| 23:17.14 | Dagmar | I swear I think these tests are designed by people who have no acutal real-world experience |
| 23:17.38 | Nechckn | usually, Dagmar |
| 23:22.01 | Arrowmaster | oh this is fucking retarded |
| 23:23.37 | Arrowmaster | "Which of the following commands would test the loopback adapter of an internal NIC?" ping 127.127.0.0, ping 127.0.0.1, ping 127.1.1.1, ping 127.127.1.0 |
| 23:23.52 | Arrowmaster | ofcourse we know what answer they want but what is the true correct answer? |
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| 23:24.11 | ccox | all of the above? |
| 23:25.00 | Arrowmaster | if it was following the specs correctly yes, but im not actually sure how often thats true |
| 23:25.26 | ccox | Is this Microsoft? Then they haven't read the spec. |
| 23:26.43 | Arrowmaster | on my linux system they all work |
| 23:26.57 | Arrowmaster | like i said, fucking retarded |
| 23:30.40 | foxlit | I wonder whether those actually reach the loopback adapter. |
| 23:31.45 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster sorry- what practice test? School or some cert thinger? |
| 23:31.53 | Arrowmaster | cert |
| 23:32.00 | Nechckn | Ah, gotcha |
| 23:32.31 | Nechckn | could rant about cert babies, but will not, since few here are. |
| 23:32.42 | |Jelly| | This BG bug is REALLY annoying |
| 23:32.47 | Nechckn | HR: Why not hire this person? |
| 23:33.02 | Nechckn | Me: Position requires experience. |
| 23:33.12 | Nechckn | HR: But they have X, Y, and Z certs. |
| 23:33.21 | Nechckn | goes back to punching babies. |
| 23:35.18 | Arrowmaster | hey now, i dont have any work experience |
| 23:35.50 | Nechckn | Well, for some positions, that is just fine - everyone starts somewhere. |
| 23:36.21 | Arrowmaster | grr i just barely passed this version of the practice exam by 10 points |
| 23:36.33 | Arrowmaster | and now looking at what i got wrong im going wtf |
| 23:37.19 | Nechckn | But for senior network admins, responsible for systems that actually hold many lives in their tiny processors at times, a bit more is nice to have. |
| 23:37.23 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck, now i see why i got this question wrong, its asking about broadcast domain not collision domain |
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| 23:38.52 | Arrowmaster | and going wtf again on the next one |
| 23:40.57 | Arrowmaster | you know i was feeling confident in my ability before but now im hating these stupid questions like Dagmar |
| 23:41.49 | Arrowmaster | "Which of the following devices should be used to segment two networks?" correct answer Media converter, wtf |
| 23:43.03 | Arrowmaster | ok now im just thinking this practice exam has to be wrong |
| 23:43.06 | airtonix | lulz |
| 23:44.44 | Arrowmaster | "A technician is running new CAT5 cables; which tool should be used to terminate the cables at the patch panel?" Multimeter, Cable crimper, Toner probe, Punch down tool |
| 23:45.04 | Arrowmaster | i said Punch down tool but it says the correct answer is Cable crimper |
| 23:45.16 | Arrowmaster | which is just fucking wrong |
| 23:45.26 | Nechckn | At least they did not say Multimeter =) |
| 23:45.47 | airtonix | well |
| 23:46.12 | airtonix | they didn't say where the cables came from |
| 23:46.47 | airtonix | isn't cable crimper the thing you use to put the plugs on the cable ? |
| 23:46.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:46.57 | airtonix | so |
| 23:47.19 | airtonix | i thought only cables that go between the sockets of the same patch panel are punched down |
| 23:47.24 | airtonix | on the rear |
| 23:47.40 | airtonix | but all others from the front obviously are going to need plugs to fit in the sockets > |
| 23:47.52 | Arrowmaster | but cables running into a closet should be terminated on the patch panel and not have connectors on them |
| 23:48.17 | airtonix | like i said they dont say where the cables are coming from |
| 23:48.46 | airtonix | so correct answer is : "depends" |
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| 23:49.30 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: care to comment? |
| 23:49.45 | Nechckn | It does say "New Cat 5 Cables" so I would *guess* it has no connectors, so one would be needed. |
| 23:50.00 | Nechckn | (Just trying to make the logic fit their "right" answer. |
| 23:50.07 | Jamash | not if you're wiring the cable directly into the patch panel |
| 23:50.45 | airtonix | an exam should leave no room for debate in the answers |
| 23:50.47 | Nechckn | Not saying it is right or whatever, just how they may be looking at it. Still a silly question. |
| 23:50.58 | Nechckn | Exactly, airtonix |
| 23:51.00 | Arrowmaster | yes you can twist the logic to fit their answer but i think any sane person would interpret the question the way i did |
| 23:51.00 | airtonix | i hate these stupidly created questions by lazy teachers/trainers/etc |
| 23:52.06 | Nechckn | Well, from the sound of it, it is to be taken verbatim, so a bit of overthinking looks to be needed - which is silly and dumb, but they are the ones with the Pass/Fail stamper. |
| 23:53.00 | Jamash | the correct answer is to redline the test |
| 23:53.06 | Nechckn | Is this the sort place where you have classes with an actual instructor with whom you can discuss the issue? |
| 23:53.15 | airtonix | i have no confidence in A= now |
| 23:53.18 | airtonix | a+ |
| 23:53.30 | Jamash | I've never had any confidence in any IT certification |
| 23:54.01 | cogwheel | hell even bachelor degrees don't really tell you much |
| 23:54.08 | Nechckn | Eh... it is better than hoping someone actually knows what is on their resume, without having time to actually have them do some crap. |
| 23:54.13 | Arrowmaster | Nechckn: no, i already took the related classes in college though that are considered Network+ and Security+ prep classes |
| 23:54.17 | airtonix | i knew this, but it impresses the little people |
| 23:54.27 | Arrowmaster | and i passed all those classes with an A without even trying |
| 23:54.35 | Dezzimal | is Grid2 officially the accepted worthy succesor to Grid, or is it not ready yet? |
| 23:54.55 | Nechckn | gotcha, Arrowmaster - so this is an official (+) practice test? |
| 23:55.04 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 23:55.11 | cogwheel | i practically co-taught the A+ prep class I was in because the teacher was such a nerd no one in the class really comprehended anything he explained... |
| 23:55.14 | cogwheel | i had to translate |
| 23:55.27 | Jamash | I've done that in math class |
| 23:55.34 | Arrowmaster | Nechckn: its a pirated TestKing practice test |
| 23:56.18 | cogwheel | that's the class where i was so bored i would challenge myself to see how many times I could wipe and reinstall win98 during the class -_- |
| 23:56.20 | Nechckn | Ah, okey dokey - was just curious, since most of the bigger tests seem to be fairly straight forward, with little/no room for "what if" sort of stuff. |
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| 23:56.39 | Nechckn | lol, now that sounds like fun, cogwheel =/ |
| 23:56.54 | Jamash | fairly frequently in technical classes another student and the teacher will have some misunderstanding and I'll know what both of them are missing about what the other one is saying |
| 23:57.12 | LloydtheHumble | Hey guys. |
| 23:57.19 | cogwheel | hai |
| 23:57.22 | LloydtheHumble | Does the Carbonite author hang out in here? |
| 23:57.24 | Jamash | since I understand the material better than the other student but I understand the "student frame of mind" better than the teacher |
| 23:57.39 | airtonix | LloydtheHumble, lol |
| 23:57.53 | airtonix | [wall of lol] |
| 23:58.10 | LloydtheHumble | That a yes or no? |
| 23:58.14 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: at one point my security class got to the point that all the online tests were to be done at home because nobody wanted to risk logging into the schools website from inside the room |
| 23:59.29 | Arrowmaster | and at times the network would go down due to more than one person trying to arp poison at the same time |
| 23:59.47 | LloydtheHumble | airtonix: Anychance you can clarify the meaning of your response? |
