| 00:00.06 | Dagmar | You have absolutely no clue, man. |
| 00:00.17 | Dagmar | Big whoops, warlocks were slightly handicapped. |
| 00:00.42 | Dagmar | You should have tried to play a wizard in EverQuest when Luclin came out. |
| 00:00.57 | Dagmar | Then you would know how much of a whiny panty-waist your warlock complaint sounds like |
| 00:01.07 | Jamash | now you're going to educate us about the real problem we should be qqing about? |
| 00:01.24 | Jamash | pfft, everquest |
| 00:01.25 | Dagmar | The real problem: Histronics |
| 00:02.26 | Gnarfoz | the real problem: trying to sound important and failing |
| 00:03.50 | Dagmar | Freaking Kim Il Jong is jealous. |
| 00:04.14 | Dagmar | Blizzard breaks a world, he thinks HE should be able to break a world, too |
| 00:04.27 | Gnarfoz | you mean Kim Jong-il? |
| 00:06.06 | Jamash | I don't get why most asian names are put in traditional western order in english, but not his |
| 00:06.25 | Jamash | shouldn't it be Jong-il Kim (in english)? |
| 00:06.50 | Dagmar | Personally, I'd rather it be prefixed by "The Deceased" |
| 00:07.16 | Jamash | that's a different matter entirely |
| 00:07.53 | Dagmar | We're writing them with English lettering. |
| 00:08.17 | Dagmar | They'd keep the order when written if we wrote them with Korean glyphs |
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| 00:08.34 | Jamash | wut |
| 00:09.36 | Dagmar | Apparently he's russian |
| 00:09.58 | Dagmar | Not like I can paste those glyphs thought BitchX anyway |
| 00:10.05 | Wobin | Jamash: wait |
| 00:10.19 | Wobin | when are 'most asian names put in traditional western order'? |
| 00:10.25 | Zasurus | Can you get flying in easten kingdoms in ptr? |
| 00:10.30 | Jamash | ...all japanese names all the time? |
| 00:10.50 | bleeter | can we get ganked by Deathwing yet? |
| 00:10.57 | Wobin | Jamash: only if there's an english transliteration/replacement |
| 00:11.06 | Wobin | at least for chinese |
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| 00:11.27 | Wobin | Cause I know I don't reorder my name when romanising it |
| 00:11.38 | Jamash | are you chinese? |
| 00:11.40 | Wobin | yes |
| 00:11.40 | Dagmar | If it's being written as <chickenscratch> <chickenscratch> then it goes in the order of the native language |
| 00:11.56 | bleeter | Wobin: I thought you were Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi :P |
| 00:12.03 | Wobin | bleeter: that too =P |
| 00:12.16 | Jamash | well, maybe it's just japanese where reversing them has become traditional |
| 00:12.26 | Jamash | might have something to do with the american occupation |
| 00:12.44 | Gnarfoz | it's personal preference for anyone and everyone |
| 00:12.53 | Shirik | I prefer to be called rik Shi |
| 00:13.08 | Dagmar | Sounds much cooler that way |
| 00:13.11 | Gnarfoz | one of the chinese guys in my office does it, the other doesn't |
| 00:13.11 | bleeter | Shirik: I prefer to call you 'Hey, jerk!' :P |
| 00:13.13 | Shirik | I actually kinda agree |
| 00:13.19 | Shirik | with both Dagmar and bleeter |
| 00:13.22 | Gnarfoz | bleeter: that better fits Dagmar, though! |
| 00:13.25 | Amarande | what's this game I logged onto today? |
| 00:13.35 | Gnarfoz | Amarande: Hello Kitt Island |
| 00:13.37 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: it's more Fisker than Dagmar |
| 00:13.39 | Amarande | I thought I had a subscription for WoW. This doesn't look like WoW. |
| 00:13.43 | Jamash | I'm not talking about how people prefer their own names to be written/spoken, Gnarfoz, I'm talking about conventions |
| 00:13.43 | Gnarfoz | damnit, Kitty |
| 00:13.45 | Dagmar | You're the one who downloaded Hello Kitty Adventures, not us. |
| 00:13.45 | Amarande | This looks like it might even be Hello Kitty Island! |
| 00:13.49 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: Knightrider MMO? |
| 00:13.55 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: and I'm saying there are none, it's personal preference |
| 00:14.01 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: hot |
| 00:14.05 | bleeter | Wobin: I'd buy that for a dollar |
| 00:14.07 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: and I'm telling you you're wrong |
| 00:14.11 | Dagmar | That's downright freaky. |
| 00:14.14 | Amarande | I guess it's a good thing there's no raid this week. |
| 00:14.32 | Dagmar | Uninstall HKA and login to WoW. |
| 00:14.34 | Amarande | btw, did anyone else notice getting the explore achievements for most of Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor for free when they logged on? |
| 00:14.50 | Wobin | I would say convention is how the person is used to being addressed |
| 00:14.52 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: errr... on what basis? :p |
| 00:15.00 | bleeter | I would say I noticed the exploration achievement reset |
| 00:15.10 | Dagmar | bleeter+ |
| 00:15.12 | Dagmar | + |
| 00:15.54 | bleeter | I would also say I noticed the empty state of my coffee mug |
| 00:16.16 | Dagmar | Goddamn stealth nerfs |
| 00:16.44 | Gnarfoz | stealth was nerfed? hmm. |
| 00:17.06 | bleeter | I know sprint got nerfed for pro-AH alts |
| 00:17.23 | bleeter | gotta get my bank alts to lvl 18 or some shit now... complete bollocks |
| 00:18.06 | bleeter | gah, starting to get sick of this 'change in access pattern' locking |
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| 00:18.25 | Amarande | and not only did mages just get a billion gold income, but they also BUFFED arcane |
| 00:18.26 | Dagmar | Level 18 so you can do what? Run 45 yards? |
| 00:18.32 | Amarande | like there wasn't already enough incentive to choose arcane |
| 00:18.33 | bleeter | stupid thing is I get it twice, one for each account on my bnet, so the second time around I just reset to the original password |
| 00:18.38 | Amarande | are they trying to get more people to roll mage? |
| 00:18.48 | bleeter | Dagmar: It's a long way between IF AH, Bank and mailbox :P |
| 00:19.00 | Dagmar | Yeah, about 45 yards. |
| 00:19.07 | Amarande | bleeter: what do you need level 18 for? |
| 00:19.14 | Amarande | are you no longer able to use the AH until that level? |
| 00:19.14 | Dagmar | You can't even save time by *mounting* to run between them |
| 00:19.17 | bleeter | Amarande: AH bank alt, sprint |
| 00:19.23 | Amarande | ah. |
| 00:19.25 | Amarande | I usually use Silvermoon |
| 00:19.29 | Amarande | which has never been too bad |
| 00:19.42 | bleeter | pretty hard for Allies to use SIlvermoon AH/Bank/Vendors |
| 00:19.50 | Amarande | How about SW? did they get spread out there too? |
| 00:20.05 | Amarande | I remember the bank and AH were pretty near each other there before |
| 00:20.14 | bleeter | yes but need to turn corners |
| 00:20.25 | bleeter | geez, you guys are so clueless as to speed and straightline... :P |
| 00:20.51 | Amarande | heh, my cluelessness in silvermoon tends more to be that I keep exiting the bazaar AH on the opposite side of the mailbox :P |
| 00:21.38 | Kraps | bleeter: if its the same as beta, in sw you can go between the bank and ah in a straight line |
| 00:21.58 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_order#Name_order "Japanese names of contemporary individuals and Hungarian names are usually "switched" when individuals who have such names are mentioned in media in Western countries" |
| 00:22.18 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: can't say I've experienced that in the wild |
| 00:22.24 | Dagmar | Kraps: Did they move hte stormwind auction house? |
| 00:22.46 | Kraps | Dagmar: different door |
| 00:23.03 | Dagmar | There was a _wall_ there, man |
| 00:23.10 | Gnarfoz | but then, hungary is so close to me, I'd wonder why it itself is not referred to as a western country |
| 00:23.16 | Kraps | Dagmar: the door is now where the bg weekend guys were |
| 00:23.26 | bleeter | Kraps: yeah but no sprint on the AH mule unless I level to 18... hence my bitching moan! :P |
| 00:23.31 | Wobin | Dagmar: all real AH mules sat outside in front of the mailbox in the corner there anyway |
| 00:23.35 | Dagmar | They must have knocked down a wall then |
| 00:23.49 | Wobin | and used macros to target and access the AH UI |
| 00:23.56 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: all right, let's let the internet decide: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22miyazaki+hayao%22&word2=%22hayao+miyazaki%22 |
| 00:23.57 | Dagmar | Wobin: Well, my level 35 bargain hunter has been there for about six months now |
| 00:24.00 | Kraps | Dagmar: well yeah :p |
| 00:24.16 | Dagmar | I was a little concerned that THAT guy might actually manifest inside a bulkhead or something |
| 00:24.37 | Dewin | Hmm... I'd like to fix my copy of Stableboy to not try to put me on a flying mount in an area requiring old world flying unless I have old world flying. Any suggestions on the best wayto accomplish this? |
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| 00:24.48 | Amarande | I suddenly don't like Orgrimmar anymore. |
| 00:24.59 | Wobin | Dewin: check for the flightmaster licence? |
| 00:25.13 | Jamash | Amarande: why not? |
| 00:25.33 | Amarande | btw, when we get Cata ... do those of us who are already patched actually have to install anything off the disc or will we only have to activate our CD key at the account page? |
| 00:25.39 | Amarande | Jamash: I don't know where anything is anymore. |
| 00:25.47 | Jamash | Amarande: you get used to it |
| 00:25.48 | Amarande | I know my way around the fracking EXODAR better than new Org. |
| 00:26.13 | Dagmar | Well, if you took care of your city better maybe they woudln't have had to rebuild it all |
| 00:26.25 | Jamash | Dewin: IsSpellKnown(90269) -- spell id of flight master's license |
| 00:26.32 | Dewin | Ah, IsSpellKnown is what I was looking for. |
| 00:26.36 | Dewin | Thanks. |
| 00:26.41 | Dewin | I was trying GetSpellInfo |
| 00:27.46 | Jamash | spellbook information is one thing I have some experience with |
| 00:28.04 | Jamash | as in, one thing I have bashed my head against repeatedly while writing Learning Aid |
| 00:28.29 | Amarande | Dagmar: I barely ever went to Orgrimmar in the past. |
| 00:28.35 | Amarande | I think I'm going to make UC my home base in Cata instead. :) |
| 00:28.36 | Dewin | Jamash: You're the author of that? |
| 00:28.49 | Dewin | Thanks, it's an awesome addon. |
| 00:28.51 | Amarande | I like UC. I don't like this new Org. |
| 00:28.56 | bleeter | yup, totally love how Blizz have me reset my password, then 5 secs later I can change it back to what I had originally. |
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| 00:29.57 | Cide | hi! |
| 00:30.06 | bleeter | no u |
| 00:30.16 | Amarande | bleeter: somehow I think there would be a huge outcry if PCI security compliance rules started applying to customers :) |
| 00:30.29 | Dagmar | bleeter: There is little point in trying to forbid stupidity. |
| 00:31.27 | bleeter | Dagmar: who's the more stupid? the stupid who inputs the data, or the coder who doesn't properly sanitise and check said input? |
| 00:31.40 | bleeter | s/the stupid/the user/ |
| 00:32.05 | Wobin | the user |
| 00:32.28 | Amarande | bleeter, most systems probably don't even keep track of your previously used passwords |
| 00:32.31 | Wobin | if the user deliberately sets his password to the same as his previous one, despite advice to the contrary |
| 00:32.36 | Wobin | then it's the user's stupidity |
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| 00:32.45 | Amarande | unless they're financial systems for which financial industry security guidelines are mandated |
| 00:33.24 | Wobin | if you now get hacked, and blizzard asks "Did you change your password when advised to" and you say "No, I changed it to be exactly as it was before" |
| 00:33.31 | Wobin | then you have noone to blame but yourself =P |
| 00:33.49 | Arrowmaster | my college system seems to remember the last 15 fucking passwords used or something, and they make you change the god damn password every quarter |
| 00:34.13 | tekkub | admins like that are in denial |
| 00:34.22 | tekkub | you're making the system much LESS secure |
| 00:34.29 | bleeter | 11:28 < Dewin> Thanks, it's an awesome addon. |
| 00:34.29 | tekkub | because everyone is going to write their shit down |
| 00:34.34 | bleeter | 11:28 < Dewin> Thanks, it's an awesome addon. |
| 00:34.35 | Gnarfoz | password1 through password15 |
| 00:34.38 | bleeter | bah wtf |
| 00:34.44 | bleeter | Dewin: sorry for ping spam |
| 00:34.48 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: actually thats so true |
| 00:35.08 | bleeter | Dewin: am trying to untangle my mouse, it got a bit click happy >< |
| 00:35.08 | Arrowmaster | my password is my normal password with a counter on it |
| 00:35.33 | Arrowmaster | problem is since i graduated in the spring i dont remember where i was on the counter |
| 00:37.31 | Xyphoid | woop, my hunch was right, the ink trader now requires cata inks. |
| 00:37.36 | Xyphoid | also mage armor is trainable |
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| 00:38.27 | Xyphoid | dumping most of my ink of the sea stocks into lower inks was a good plan |
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| 00:42.00 | Jamash | r u srs :( |
| 00:42.28 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5696981/well-they-actually-did-it |
| 00:42.51 | Xyphoid | yep blackhallow ink or whatever for all, including a blackhallow -> ink of the sea trade |
| 00:43.07 | Xyphoid | blackfallow |
| 00:43.08 | Jamash | Dewin: thanks! (sorry, was afk) |
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| 00:53.25 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/11/23/insanely-low-prices-for-wow-bc-and-wrath-for-a-limited-time/ |
| 00:53.33 | Kraps | pretty sick |
| 00:53.35 | bleeter | lol http://danomatika.com/blog/kinect-titty-tracker/ |
| 00:54.25 | Cide | someone type "Cide: hi" for me please |
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| 00:55.22 | Xyphoid | cide: i will break you |
| 00:55.29 | Cide | thanks |
| 00:55.43 | bleeter | Cide: I will break you first |
| 00:55.55 | Cide | thanks |
| 00:56.16 | bleeter | Cide is so leet he breaks himself |
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| 00:58.22 | Kraps | cide thanks himself |
| 00:59.47 | Kraps | Civilization V - Now on Mac OS X |
| 01:00.58 | bluspacecow | yeah i saw that last night |
| 01:01.06 | bluspacecow | too bad i sux at those sort of games :\ |
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| 01:02.17 | Kraps | so do i |
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| 01:05.47 | bluspacecow | ended up playing 1/2 the night on torchlight |
| 01:06.07 | bluspacecow | too bad its $20 USD ... bit expensive for my taste :( |
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| 01:14.25 | airtonix | could we use kinetic to make a new breed of wow bots ? |
| 01:15.09 | airtonix | i would give the machine a borat voice pack |
| 01:15.38 | Dewin | Hmm... valks in ICC25 copied warlocks who cast reign of chaos for 80k a tick on the entire raid. Instant raidwipe. |
| 01:15.39 | airtonix | and make it join a guild then make it log onto the guilds vent server |
| 01:15.58 | airtonix | "Hai may nameisa Fisker" |
| 01:16.19 | airtonix | "I love to do cricket, ya very much" |
| 01:16.33 | airtonix | bouncey bouncey |
| 01:17.11 | airtonix | too bad i don't play wow anymore |
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| 01:20.41 | Xinhuan | bluspacecow, it was $5 for a while during halloween |
| 01:20.49 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 01:21.08 | Xinhuan | it'll probably be $5 during xmas sale |
| 01:21.17 | Xinhuan | so maybe just wait |
| 01:22.05 | bluspacecow | :) |
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| 01:23.17 | Jerub | anyone got a clue on why the new meta gem requirements are so weird? |
| 01:23.42 | Xinhuan | clearly they want you to gem hit only haha |
| 01:24.03 | Dagmar | They did drop hints about that |
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| 01:26.12 | nebula169 | thats how they were before wrath, lol |
| 01:26.23 | nebula169 | more x than x, etc |
| 01:30.05 | Zasurus | Is anyone in the live us server 4.0.3a right now? |
| 01:30.27 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 01:30.28 | Xinhuan | plenty |
| 01:31.44 | Zasurus | Can anyone quickly check the "Explore Darkshore" achievement in US server and tell me if "Shatterspear War Camp" is spelt with 2 or 3 "t" in the live server? |
| 01:32.50 | bluspacecow | @zasurus mirrored that to 2 channels where i have some US friends |
| 01:33.09 | bluspacecow | I meanwhile will BRB hunting for breakfast |
| 01:33.12 | Iriel | 3 t's |
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| 01:33.24 | Xinhuan | its spelt with 3 ts |
| 01:33.31 | Zasurus | Thanks Iriel.. and CRAP! they suck! LOL |
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| 01:33.55 | Xinhuan | Shatterspear Vale is correct with 2 though |
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| 01:34.23 | Zasurus | yer same as ptr... god blizz suck... I mean it's such a simple typo to notice! LOL |
| 01:34.46 | bleeter | I am so heavily tempted to get an nVidia Quadro card and a Kinect |
| 01:34.47 | Zasurus | Now I will have to hard code corrections into my addon to get around all there crap typos |
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| 01:35.48 | bluspacecow | interestng |
| 01:35.55 | bluspacecow | i had a friend on us ally side |
| 01:36.01 | bluspacecow | who said its 2 ts |
| 01:36.02 | kd3 | typos? in wow? unpossible |
| 01:36.07 | Zasurus | lol |
| 01:36.29 | Zasurus | Xinhuan and Iriel where did you get 3 t's from? Was it us or beta/ptr? |
| 01:36.36 | Xinhuan | live |
| 01:36.37 | bluspacecow | imma pause looking for breakfast and look myself |
| 01:36.47 | Xinhuan | beta is also closed |
| 01:36.50 | Xinhuan | about a day ago |
| 01:37.01 | Zasurus | Yer I know was mid way thought addon update lol |
| 01:37.11 | bluspacecow | 4.0.3 (13329) (R) enUS locale |
| 01:37.48 | Zasurus | bluspacecow: Are you sure that the achievement says that with 2 t's lol somoene must be wrong! ;-) |
| 01:38.06 | bluspacecow | trying to login and getting an error report :( |
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| 01:39.24 | bluspacecow | oh nvm had to clear ma Cache folder |
| 01:39.53 | bluspacecow | *bracing for addon breakage!* |
| 01:40.38 | Xinhuan | only map-related addons are breaking |
| 01:40.44 | Xinhuan | if they don't have compat code |
| 01:41.06 | bluspacecow | mine are just LibFishing and LibTourist right now |
| 01:41.18 | bluspacecow | havent turned on load out of date yet ... ic an deal with that later |
| 01:42.28 | bluspacecow | erm |
| 01:42.32 | bluspacecow | its 2 t's |
| 01:42.52 | bluspacecow | Achievements -> Exploration -> Kalimdor -> Explore Darkshore |
| 01:42.55 | Xinhuan | look at the next line |
| 01:42.57 | bluspacecow | im even zoomed in |
| 01:42.59 | Xinhuan | there's 2 of them |
| 01:43.16 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 01:43.20 | bluspacecow | you are correct xiny |
| 01:43.23 | Ackis | is there a slash command to interact with a npc? |
| 01:43.37 | bluspacecow | theres a shatterspear vale and a shatterspear war camp |
| 01:43.44 | Xinhuan | nope, you need a 3d-world click, either on it, or its nameplate |
| 01:43.52 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=33980 that sob is invisible to me |
| 01:43.54 | bluspacecow | @ackis no but there is a keybinding |
| 01:44.04 | bluspacecow | look for "interact with target" keybinding |
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| 01:46.43 | Ackis | thanks bluspacecow |
| 01:46.48 | bluspacecow | find it ? |
| 01:46.49 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 01:47.15 | Ackis | yeah |
| 01:47.22 | Ackis | the NPC is invisible |
| 01:48.05 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 01:48.42 | Ackis | Xinhuan: did you get any of the quest achievements they added for kalimdore/eastern kingdoms? |
| 01:49.30 | Xinhuan | just silithus |
| 01:49.51 | Ackis | mine are all 0/xx |
| 01:50.50 | bluspacecow | @Zasurus http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/shatterspearmisspelling.jpg |
| 01:50.56 | Ackis | and yeah I got syphilis |
| 01:50.59 | bluspacecow | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/shatterspearmisspelling_large.jpg |
| 01:51.23 | Ackis | what's misspelled? |
| 01:51.50 | Amarande | ah, so THAT'S how they're addressing reaching Hyjal and making sure you can't before Cata |
| 01:52.06 | Amarande | southernmost Winterspring is now part of Hyjal and can only be accessed with the FML. |
| 01:52.22 | Legorol | FML? |
| 01:52.28 | Amarande | Flight Master's Licence. |
| 01:52.31 | Amarande | (Oh dear. Did anyone else think about the abbreviation for the Flight Master's License before.) |
| 01:52.31 | Zasurus | Ackis: Jaquero Isle = Jaguero Isle and Shattterspear War Camp = Shatterspear War Camp |
| 01:52.34 | bluspacecow | Shatterspear War Camp is spelled with 3 't's on enUS |
| 01:52.42 | Ackis | ah Zasurus |
| 01:53.31 | Amarande | Ackis: I have the Bloodmyst quest achievement but none of the others. |
| 01:53.33 | Zasurus | It's messing up my addon WorldExplorer as the incorrect spellings arn't in LibBabble-SubZone-3.0 :-) Will need to hardcode the translation to the correct spelling before I can translate them! LOL |
| 01:53.44 | Amarande | It appears that none of the pre-Cata quests even count. And that any you had are automatically abandoned, unless they are Outland or Northrend. |
| 01:53.46 | Ackis | Amarande: are all of yours really low completion? |
| 01:53.57 | Amarande | 0/xx, except for 65/65 for Bloodmyst. |
| 01:54.09 | Ackis | ok not just me at least |
| 01:54.28 | Amarande | yay, they also made the stupid e'ko actually good for an achievement now |
| 01:54.53 | Amarande | Also looks like noob zones don't count towards quest achievements at all now. |
| 01:55.22 | Amarande | There's no achievement for Azuremyst, and I don't think there's ones for Teldrassil, Elwynn, or Dun Morogh either |
| 01:56.00 | Olison | he he |
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| 01:56.12 | Amarande | also, is it just seeming it or are there a lot fewer quests in 1-60 Azeroth now? |
| 01:56.43 | Napoleone | dam |
| 01:56.50 | Amarande | like the Cata quest achievements are 100+ quests a zone ... but the other ones? Complete 18 quests in Arathi Highlands? That's ALL THERE IS? |
| 01:57.13 | Dagmar | There isn't much there |
| 01:57.26 | Jerub | okay, i've just gotten my tauren paladin through all the mulgore quests. going to org now. |
| 01:57.42 | Amarande | Most zones in general don't seem to have many more than 30-40 quests, though, vs. the 50+ in Outland and the 100+ in most Northrend and Cata zones |
| 01:57.51 | Napoleone | do they have zone specific achievs now? |
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| 01:57.56 | Amarande | Napoleone: Yup. |
| 01:58.05 | Napoleone | YES!! i can finally see where the hell i need quests ;P |
| 01:58.14 | Napoleone | anyone can take a ss of that? |
| 01:58.15 | Amarande | Napoleone: you need all of them, dear :) |
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| 01:58.22 | Napoleone | hehe did loremaster reset? |
| 01:58.29 | Xyphoid | only if you didn't finish it |
| 01:58.33 | Napoleone | kewl |
| 01:58.37 | Napoleone | makes it easier for me ;P |
| 01:58.46 | dardack_home | ok is there a way to tell what continet your on? |
| 01:58.48 | Amarande | except for Bloodmyst and maybe Ghostlands (didn't check on my horde toons), you don't start with ANY credit towards ANY zone |
| 01:59.06 | Dagmar | dardack: how do you usually manage that? |
| 01:59.14 | Amarande | None of the pre-cata Azerothian quests count. And any such quests you had are apparently automatically abandoned. |
| 01:59.33 | Napoleone | lol what about people farming souls =? |
| 01:59.59 | dardack_home | dagmar as far as I know GetZoneText is just the sub area of the continent |
| 02:00.06 | dardack_home | so i would have to have a table of all zones |
| 02:00.12 | Xyphoid | what'd people get from northend glyph research? i got glyph of the long word, and mage armor from the trainer |
| 02:00.22 | Dagmar | dardack_home: Imagine that |
| 02:00.36 | dardack_home | ok was just wondering if there was an easier way |
| 02:00.42 | dardack_home | sheesh |
| 02:00.42 | Amarande | I actually know a glyph on my mage that I'm not allowed to learn currently. |
| 02:01.16 | Dagmar | Not really. |
| 02:01.19 | Amarande | level 34, and already know (and actually still have slotted) the glyph of arcane brilliance heh |
| 02:01.57 | cog|away | for those of us with alt-itis, today is essentially the release of cata, less goblins & worgen... le squee |
| 02:02.00 | Dagmar | I'd have been happier if it returned an int that you could lookup against a table of localized strings tho |
| 02:02.09 | dardack_home | well yea me too dagmar |
| 02:02.24 | dardack_home | but was wondering if there was an API i was missing |
| 02:02.25 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 02:02.28 | Gnarfoz | !api zone |
| 02:02.29 | lua_bot | Found 14 possible matches for 'zone'. Please be more specific |
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| 02:02.43 | Gnarfoz | there is a new api for that that obsoletes babble-zone |
| 02:02.55 | Zasurus | oh... |
| 02:02.56 | Dagmar | If it's in there I never found it |
| 02:02.57 | Zasurus | go on... |
| 02:03.20 | Gnarfoz | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapZones |
| 02:03.30 | Gnarfoz | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapContinents |
| 02:03.30 | Dagmar | I was tryin to do something fancy with Folkard and didn't understand how they broke that data up... kept having unstyled text appear and screw everything up |
| 02:03.53 | dardack_home | ok ty dagmar putting in the code now |
| 02:04.09 | Dagmar | I'd seriously rather that it didn't return localized strings |
| 02:04.09 | dardack_home | oh can i check for ability like cold weather flying, azertoh flying? |
| 02:04.20 | dardack_home | well then you have to translate it no? |
| 02:04.26 | Zasurus | Gnarfoz: That isn't a repalcement for LibBabble-Zone it doesn't tell you which one is the translation |
| 02:04.41 | Gnarfoz | Zasurus: huh? |
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| 02:05.01 | Zasurus | you said <Gnarfoz> there is a new api for that that obsoletes babble-zone |
| 02:05.09 | Gnarfoz | thanks for reminding me |
| 02:05.15 | Dagmar | dardack: Yeah, it limits what you can do with the information unless you a) don't mind throwing non-English speakers to the curb and b) don't mind hardcoded strings because you're an amature |
| 02:05.22 | Dagmar | er amateur |
| 02:05.27 | Gnarfoz | please elaborate on the statement *you* made ;] |
| 02:05.40 | Dagmar | Drat it someone asked that about hte mounts at about 3pm today |
| 02:05.45 | Zasurus | but the GetMapZones and GetMapContinents only gives you localization strings |
| 02:06.22 | Gnarfoz | yes, and? oO |
| 02:06.23 | Zasurus | So if you have a area name in english (in you addon) and want to show it to the user you can't use it to translate is what I ment :-) |
| 02:06.33 | Gnarfoz | obvious mistake: |
| 02:06.35 | Zasurus | So I can't replace Babble Zone |
| 02:06.45 | Rockso | The eu wow servers are down. I need an us wow account! |
| 02:06.45 | Gnarfoz | you will have to get used to not having the "name in english" in your addon, but the ID. |
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| 02:07.06 | Zasurus | Are the ID's always acurate? |
| 02:07.16 | Gnarfoz | so you display whatever the ID translates to -> localized zone names, whee |
| 02:07.23 | Amarande | Heya MoonWitch |
| 02:07.31 | dardack_home | would this work http://wowuidev.pastey.net/143222 |
| 02:07.41 | Zasurus | I know the Zone ID's don't match got cort out by that! LOL |
| 02:07.53 | Zasurus | Or they didn't b4 cata... |
| 02:08.03 | dardack_home | so i would only have to translate the 4 continents? |
| 02:08.06 | Gnarfoz | what? please try speaking proper english -.- |
| 02:08.18 | dardack_home | insstead of all zones |
| 02:08.42 | Gnarfoz | I'd venture a guess that they match http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3522 - if EU wow servers hadn't gone down just 5 minutes ago, I'd check ;p |
| 02:08.45 | Zasurus | dardack be carefull I am sure the id's don't match across all languages |
| 02:09.04 | Gnarfoz | Zasurus: erm. try testing that, maybe? |
| 02:09.19 | Gnarfoz | why would they not match, that would defeat the purpose, really |
| 02:09.49 | Gnarfoz | (which is possible, of course) |
| 02:09.54 | Zasurus | I was using the ID's but when I went to add different langs I got errors all over the place as I THINK it was the zone id's didnt match |
| 02:09.58 | bleeter | Something tells me this will only be a temporary bug, anyways. Will it really be worth all the engineering when the problem's upstream? |
| 02:10.08 | Shirik | I logged in and already got the "Surveying the Damage" achievement |
| 02:10.09 | Shirik | pro |
| 02:10.17 | bleeter | Shirik: hardcore |
| 02:10.18 | Zasurus | lol |
| 02:10.20 | Gnarfoz | Zasurus: errors. the only thing you'd get from non-matching IDs is wrong zone names. |
| 02:10.23 | kd3 | lol, so did I |
| 02:10.29 | dardack_home | zasurus but the zone from GetMapZones(continent) should match GetZoneText no? |
| 02:10.56 | Gnarfoz | unless of course one locale has more zones than another, which is highly unlikely ;D |
| 02:10.56 | bleeter | kd3, Shirik: Am seriously contemplating getting a Quadro card and a Kinect and trying out WoW under Wine with that kit ;) |
| 02:10.59 | Zasurus | Hang on I will try to find my notes... |
| 02:11.04 | kd3 | bleeter; o_O |
| 02:11.11 | Shirik | Where did the Kinect come from? |
| 02:11.13 | bleeter | kd3, Shirik: Know if anyone's got 3D WoW happening under Quadro? |
| 02:11.21 | kd3 | dunno |
| 02:11.21 | bleeter | Shirik: There are open drivers now |
| 02:11.29 | Gnarfoz | just ask some USian to log on and confirm |
| 02:11.35 | dardack_home | ncwhoa continents are #'d? |
| 02:11.37 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: outer space |
| 02:11.39 | bleeter | kd3: I know it don't work under standard linux nVidia, need Quadro. still... |
| 02:11.43 | Shirik | I can't speak to how well it works |
| 02:12.18 | Zasurus | Gnarfoz: I can't check as looks like the EU servers have gone down now :( |
| 02:12.25 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware of that. |
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| 02:12.37 | bleeter | have you considered running a trial US account? |
| 02:12.43 | Zasurus | Will have a check tomorrow as that would solve most of my problems |
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| 02:12.55 | Gnarfoz | no, since I have considered and decided against downloading an entire US client just for that. |
| 02:13.36 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: in which case you have considered, however turned down the proposal as not suitable :P |
| 02:13.39 | Zasurus | Oh can you get different language client on PTR |
| 02:13.41 | Gnarfoz | (beats me why they can't merge them all, the differences are certainly not that big... EU would get the randomize button in the char screen!) |
| 02:13.44 | dardack_home | !api GetCurrentMapContinent() |
| 02:13.44 | lua_bot | GetCurrentMapContinent: Returns the current world map continent (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrentMapContinent) |
| 02:13.50 | dardack_home | by # |
| 02:13.52 | dardack_home | so |
| 02:13.58 | dardack_home | i don't even have to check for zone duh |
| 02:14.07 | MoonWitch | Gnarfoz: I've not had that randomize button for months :P |
| 02:14.11 | dardack_home | 1-4 |
| 02:14.17 | Gnarfoz | MoonWitch: nice |
| 02:14.21 | dardack_home | so 1 is kal, 2 is ek, 3 is bc, 4 is northrend? |
| 02:14.22 | Arrowmaster | what are you trying to do? |
| 02:14.25 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:14.27 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm talking about the one that randomizes names, btw |
| 02:14.27 | Shirik | found a problem already |
| 02:14.33 | MoonWitch | god xXx makes me realize I really need to go see Rammstein in concert |
| 02:14.33 | Shirik | WoW is consuming my mouse button |
| 02:14.34 | bleeter | is Silvermoon still in Outland? |
| 02:14.38 | Shirik | and I can't use it for vent |
| 02:14.38 | Gnarfoz | not sure why the EU client doesn't have it |
| 02:14.47 | Arrowmaster | because you have to remember thats just the map, not where you currently are |
| 02:15.15 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: you'll have to get a new mouse, not feeding wow when it's hungry is a bad idea |
| 02:15.18 | dardack_home | sigh doesn't work if map is open |
| 02:15.19 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:15.21 | dardack_home | why |
| 02:15.22 | Zasurus | bleeter: it hasn't been updated if that is what you mean |
| 02:15.54 | nicoli_s | by chance anyone in here have xna experience? |
| 02:15.55 | Zasurus | I think it is counted as BC |
| 02:16.09 | Xyphoid | bleeter: yeah there was a comment in that dev q&a the other day that they'd tried to merge on the separate maps but it was too hard for now |
| 02:16.14 | Xyphoid | given time constraints |
| 02:16.32 | dardack_home | so GetCurrentMapContinent is actually based on where the map is at, so i do have to do zones, sigh |
| 02:16.39 | Amarande | bleeter: I'm guessing the Draenei and BE 1-20 areas are still on the Outland map and server |
| 02:16.53 | Gnarfoz | they are |
| 02:16.59 | Amarande | it also explains why we don't have any progress for any of the zone quest achievements except Bloodmyst and Ghostlands |
| 02:17.09 | bleeter | Xyphoid: cheers, had been wondering. I recall it caused all sorts of grief to Gatherer 'back in the day' hehe ;) |
| 02:17.24 | Amarande | bleeter: it apparently screwed up QH at some point too |
| 02:17.37 | Amarande | I remember QH giving me taxi arrows for Bloodmyst saying I was very near stuff when ... I was in SW |
| 02:18.19 | bleeter | I don't think I ever used QH back near BC launch lol |
| 02:18.32 | Arrowmaster | it didnt exist then |
| 02:18.52 | bleeter | would explain why I don't recall it |
| 02:18.54 | Amarande | yeah this was during 3.3.x when QH was telling me SW was Bloodmyst |
| 02:19.10 | bleeter | thanks... I mean. I know I'm getting old and stuff falls out of my head, and I really appreciate people putting it back in. |
| 02:21.07 | dardack_home | can someone help me with pairs, if i have a table zones[1] = {subzone1, subzone2} , zones[2] = {subzone1a, subzone2a}, can i traverse zones with pairs? sorry i get confused with pairs |
| 02:21.41 | Amarande | bleeter: you mean like that goop that comes out of Rocko in the opening sequence when they stuff the book into his head? :) |
| 02:22.41 | Jamash | if you use pairs with a table like that, you will the integer index in one variable and the table reference in the second variable |
| 02:22.45 | Jamash | *will get |
| 02:23.12 | dardack_home | so i have to pairs it twice? |
| 02:26.05 | Napoleone | anyone know of a program i can share to an xbox live tversity that supports everything |
| 02:26.47 | bleeter | Amarande: something like that, though I'm also thinking something along the lines of the lead character from the movie Pi |
| 02:26.51 | bleeter | with the drill |
| 02:27.15 | nicoli_s | Napoleone:huh? |
| 02:27.28 | nicoli_s | share to an xbox live tversity? |
| 02:27.31 | Napoleone | well my windows media center or tversity doesnt accept mp4 and mkv |
| 02:27.38 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 02:27.44 | Arrowmaster | i thought tversity did |
| 02:27.48 | nicoli_s | well i think you probably just need the codecs |
| 02:28.07 | nicoli_s | im reasonably sure with the proper codecs it supports mkv, i know before i watched one on my 360 |
| 02:28.07 | Napoleone | my xbox dont wanna do shit lol |
| 02:28.39 | Arrowmaster | the program does all the work, the xbox doesnt have anything to do with it |
| 02:28.57 | Arrowmaster | all it does is receive a transcoded stream, probably in WMV |
| 02:29.19 | nicoli_s | the newer xboxes can support a few other formats |
| 02:29.29 | nicoli_s | it got xvid support at some point |
| 02:29.31 | Arrowmaster | they all support the same |
| 02:29.44 | Arrowmaster | and the mkv container is not supported |
| 02:29.59 | Napoleone | well tversity dont want to convert it.. result in error |
| 02:30.00 | Arrowmaster | so transcoding is required |
| 02:30.08 | Arrowmaster | then its a problem with your pc |
| 02:30.14 | Arrowmaster | get the proper codecs |
| 02:30.24 | Arrowmaster | or the file is corrupt |
| 02:30.37 | Napoleone | vlc has no problems. so i never installed any codecs |
| 02:30.50 | Arrowmaster | vlc is a problem |
| 02:30.57 | Arrowmaster | install cccp |
| 02:31.07 | Gnarfoz | codec packs are never the solution! |
| 02:31.17 | Arrowmaster | cccp isnt really a codec pack |
| 02:31.31 | Gnarfoz | I'll not point out how idiotic that sounds, given its name |
| 02:31.37 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 02:32.00 | Gnarfoz | codec hell |
| 02:32.01 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 02:32.04 | Napoleone | ye |
| 02:32.26 | Arrowmaster | its one video decoder, one audio decoder, and one container demuxer |
| 02:32.28 | airtonix | umad? |
| 02:32.37 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 02:32.44 | Napoleone | flv splitter |
| 02:32.48 | Gnarfoz | airtonix: libumad? |
| 02:32.49 | Napoleone | haali media splitter |
| 02:32.56 | Napoleone | and a few players |
| 02:33.00 | Napoleone | hmm no codecs here |
| 02:33.02 | airtonix | Gnarfoz, madwifi |
| 02:33.11 | Gnarfoz | airtonix: mac80211? |
| 02:33.15 | airtonix | NOU! |
| 02:33.16 | bleeter | in cccp, codecs play you |
| 02:33.18 | Gnarfoz | mad80211 would be interesting |
| 02:33.39 | airtonix | i will not use a Mac nor watch 801201 |
| 02:33.45 | airtonix | bleh |
| 02:33.49 | Gnarfoz | isn't that 90210 |
| 02:34.07 | airtonix | sorry i forgot what we were talking about |
| 02:34.12 | airtonix | i suddenly lost interest |
| 02:34.17 | Gnarfoz | Lost? |
| 02:34.19 | Gnarfoz | oh no |
| 02:35.32 | Gnarfoz | also: suggesting something that uses ffdshow as a replacement for vlc because vlc "is a problem" is even more ironic, considering |
| 02:35.41 | Torhal | So...did anyone notice that they added FLIES to the piles of ogre shit in Tanaris? |
| 02:35.55 | Gnarfoz | (I hate its gui =D) |
| 02:36.03 | Napoleone | hmm any way to disable the weather system now? |
| 02:36.04 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: you did! |
| 02:36.22 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: considering they are both from the same ffmpeg project? yet somehow vlc seems to always be riddled with horrible bugs and broken playback? |
| 02:36.34 | Gnarfoz | they use their own splitters, that's about it |
| 02:37.12 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/124600 |
| 02:37.15 | Arrowmaster | the decoders may be both from ffmpeg but they are far from exactly a like |
| 02:37.17 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: you say that like iTunes and WMP don't have horrible bugs, broken playback and shitty UIs :P |
| 02:37.40 | Napoleone | anyone got access to beta? |
| 02:37.45 | Arrowmaster | bleeter: no both of those are just plain shitty |
| 02:37.48 | Gnarfoz | beta is over |
| 02:37.55 | Napoleone | nooo |
| 02:38.34 | airtonix | lol |
| 02:39.02 | bleeter | Gnarfoz: alpha next week, then? :P |
| 02:39.37 | bleeter | tbh, tho, idk about next xpac. I'm still trying to decide who they should get to play Blizzcon. |
| 02:39.39 | Stanzilla | bleeter: alpha = live |
| 02:39.54 | Napoleone | lol no portal hubs? |
| 02:40.17 | Gnarfoz | that's not exactly surprising now |
| 02:40.20 | bleeter | Napoleone: as previously announced, correct. |
| 02:40.27 | dardack_home | ok can someone tell me how i can tell if someone has learned flying at all, cold weather, zeroth flying? |
| 02:40.29 | dardack_home | azeroth |
| 02:40.31 | bleeter | Napoleone: they don't want the population living elserwhere |
| 02:40.31 | Napoleone | so i shall play my mage now |
| 02:40.38 | Nobgul | dardack: not yet |
| 02:40.45 | dardack_home | for real? |
| 02:40.49 | bleeter | dardack_home: I was able to mount a flying mount (carpet) but it wouldn't get off the ground ;) |
| 02:40.58 | dardack_home | yea me too bleeter, my helicopter |
| 02:41.00 | dardack_home | nothing else |
| 02:41.02 | bleeter | that's to say, they seem to be working like the horseman's mount |
| 02:41.30 | dardack_home | seems to me only the prof mounts are |
| 02:41.38 | Napoleone | event bosses gone aswell now? |
| 02:41.51 | bleeter | dardack_home: oh yeah, well now I think back to when I logged in, that may well be it |
| 02:42.06 | bleeter | dardack_home: I've not been logged in a few hours, good observation :) |
| 02:42.38 | dardack_home | so |
| 02:42.51 | dardack_home | there's no way to grab if someone learned cold weather flying at least? |
| 02:43.36 | dardack_home | !api spell |
| 02:43.36 | lua_bot | Found 104 possible matches for 'spell'. Please be more specific |
| 02:44.06 | dardack_home | !api GetSpellInfo() |
| 02:44.07 | lua_bot | GetSpellInfo: Returns information about a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellInfo) |
| 02:44.54 | dardack_home | ahh i can call tthat twice |
| 02:45.08 | MoonWitch | do you guys know how delicious chocolate paste is? |
| 02:45.10 | dardack_home | once with the #, which returns name, and once with name, and it wwill be nil if not in spell book |
| 02:45.25 | Dewin | we mentioned IsSpellKnown earlier too |
| 02:46.18 | dardack_home | oh |
| 02:46.22 | dardack_home | damn i missed it, ty Dewin |
| 02:46.29 | dardack_home | !api IsSpellKnown |
| 02:46.29 | lua_bot | IsSpellKnown: Returns whether the player (or pet) knows a spell (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsSpellKnown) |
| 02:46.52 | dardack_home | sorry about that been tabbing back and forth |
| 02:47.47 | Xyphoid | so there's this level 85 gear for JPs, can you buy it before you can use it? |
| 02:48.33 | nicoli_s | meh, i hate when you find someone with the exact problem as you, but no one answered them either :( |
| 02:49.05 | airtonix | or when they respond to their own thread with : |
| 02:49.16 | airtonix | " Don't worry i fixed it " |
| 02:49.25 | airtonix | STABSTABSTAB |
| 02:49.41 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 02:50.06 | Napoleone | i cant find a decent list worth looking at for NEW profession shit. new jp rewards. cata only stuff |
| 02:50.41 | bleeter | I've got a pretty good list here. |
| 02:50.54 | Napoleone | mmo champion sorts by freaking name |
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| 02:53.06 | Amarande | o.0, people are complaining in trade that pilgrim's bounty was ruined by this |
| 02:53.14 | Napoleone | ? |
| 02:53.18 | Napoleone | what? |
| 02:53.20 | Amarande | Napoleone: search wowhead for stuff requiring 450+ skill? |
| 02:53.38 | Amarande | two things |
| 02:53.47 | Amarande | 1) people have said now they've gotten [Pilgrim] but didn't get the title to go with it |
| 02:54.11 | Amarande | 2) the Turkey Lurkey achievement in particular is being targeted for complaint |
| 02:54.27 | Napoleone | lol |
| 02:54.35 | Amarande | since because people are encouraged by 4.0.3 to gather in faction capitals rather than neutral cities, non-PvP players are finding it extremely hard to find the rogues they need |
| 02:54.39 | Napoleone | they dont have any stuff between 450 and 500 |
| 02:55.04 | Amarande | (and even if you do PvP, rogues tend to have the stiffest gear requirements to survive tangling with.) |
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| 02:55.52 | Napoleone | turkey lurker is almost impossible on our server.. no dwarf rogues |
| 02:56.03 | Xyphoid | trial account go |
| 02:56.52 | Napoleone | maintenance ;P |
| 02:57.04 | Napoleone | what arre they gonna do with BS from 450-500 |
| 02:58.50 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
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| 02:59.14 | Amarande | Did they fix the Hellfire Citadel quest log bug, btw? |
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| 02:59.29 | Napoleone | any ideas on that problem? |
| 02:59.54 | Amarande | dude, you should have understood the job was thankless when you decided to take blacksmithing in the first place :) |
| 03:00.00 | Amarande | They call it BS for a reason. |
| 03:00.05 | Shirik | Adys: pong |
| 03:00.08 | Adys | Amarande: +1 |
| 03:00.26 | Napoleone | i have all professions maxed |
| 03:00.46 | Adys | Shirik: do you know if there is any physical reaction that would cause magnets to become active only after there is a certain amount of them in a closed stack? |
| 03:00.51 | Amarande | Though LW is possibly worse |
| 03:01.04 | dardack_home | woot ty all for help, believe i got most of it working |
| 03:01.06 | Amarande | At least with BS if you're lazy you can usually buy the mats you need to get through the stage where you need X type of metal |
| 03:01.21 | Amarande | with LW, most of the time even if you buy out the entire AH of the type of leather you need, it's not enough without having to go farm |
| 03:01.25 | dardack_home | can anyone verify all carpets work as land? |
| 03:01.38 | Amarande | I've seen people on carpets in Darnassus, so I'm assuming they do |
| 03:02.00 | Amarande | ... when did I become an alliance player? |
| 03:02.05 | Amarande | oh yeah, when org changed |
| 03:02.30 | Amarande | also because my highest level mage is an alliance player, and a little birdie told me life in Azeroth will be a lot more fun now as a mage than as some other class |
| 03:02.55 | Napoleone | http://www.wowhead.com/item=55052 |
| 03:02.56 | Napoleone | wow |
| 03:03.21 | dardack_home | ok updated my database for carpets/engineer mounts |
| 03:03.30 | dardack_home | any other prof mounts i dont' know about? |
| 03:03.54 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 03:05.51 | Amarande | ... why is Folded Obsidium marked as "binds when equipped"? |
| 03:05.55 | Amarande | it's a mat. it's not equipped at all. |
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| 03:09.26 | Komodo- | part of the crafting process requires a period of balancing it on your head Amarande |
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| 03:13.33 | Napoleone | hmm |
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| 03:15.04 | cogwheel | holy crap why is deathy burping so much? |
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| 03:19.22 | Napoleone | so how do we get around now? |
| 03:19.54 | Napoleone | we get guild lvling in 4,0,3 |
| 03:20.03 | Napoleone | aaaah lol wrong list' |
| 03:21.27 | Kraps | was no one around before portals? |
| 03:21.32 | Napoleone | i was |
| 03:21.38 | Napoleone | but I've gotten used to em |
| 03:22.13 | kd3 | oh wow. fail |
| 03:22.29 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Fuselight,_Ho!#Notes |
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| 03:22.58 | kd3 | so... badlands: completely broken unless you can get in from searing gorge |
| 03:23.52 | Napoleone | i like the new maps ;P |
| 03:24.50 | kd3 | they're nice. http://www.wowpedia.org/Cataclysm_map_comparison |
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| 03:26.29 | bluspacecow | lolz some mage is recreating the portals in Dalaran exactly from where they went missing from |
| 03:26.40 | bluspacecow | so people are running up trying to use them and failing :) |
| 03:26.51 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 03:26.57 | Napoleone | nice |
| 03:27.15 | Napoleone | so now its time to learn to use FP like mad and wait for stupid slow zepps |
| 03:27.37 | cogwheel | lulz |
| 03:29.37 | Dagmar | That's hilarious |
| 03:30.40 | Dagmar | GOod lord there's like a million more flight points now |
| 03:30.45 | Napoleone | ye |
| 03:30.47 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 03:30.49 | Napoleone | i saw that lol |
| 03:31.00 | Dagmar | \Are the flight masters using semaphore to send messages around the continent now? |
| 03:31.11 | Dagmar | They look like they're about a mile apart each |
| 03:31.12 | Lulia | Is InCombat() or UnitAffectingCombat("Player") preferred in determining whether or not a unit is in combat? |
| 03:31.25 | Cide | InCombatLockdown() |
| 03:31.29 | Cide | or whatever |
| 03:31.31 | Cide | I would guess |
| 03:31.37 | Lulia | InCombatLockdown()* yeah, sorry |
| 03:32.07 | Lulia | Hmm, so UnitAffectingCombat is used more often to check for other targets? |
| 03:32.19 | Napoleone | hmm so theres a new fucktion? |
| 03:32.33 | Napoleone | function |
| 03:32.44 | Napoleone | instead of the events combar regen enable disable |
| 03:32.50 | Lulia | Well |
| 03:32.53 | Lulia | The events still exist too |
| 03:32.59 | Xyphoid | i want a flight master who fires me out of a cannon |
| 03:33.13 | Lulia | But there's functions to check whether or not you're in combat as well, which has other applications. |
| 03:34.06 | Napoleone | xyhoid.. lol like the darkmoonfaire one |
| 03:34.21 | Napoleone | or wasnt there a quest that kicked you super far aswell |
| 03:35.46 | Dagmar | Hmm... No pre-80 _instances_ have changed yet? |
| 03:35.49 | Lulia | There's the one in Outlands |
| 03:35.57 | Lulia | Dagmar |
| 03:36.00 | Lulia | DM and SFK have |
| 03:36.22 | Lulia | But their heroic versions aren't available until 85, but the normal versions have changed too. |
| 03:36.37 | Napoleone | kewl |
| 03:36.37 | Lulia | And all of the old instances should have maps now, I think |
| 03:36.41 | Napoleone | so we can farm the new dm? |
| 03:37.00 | Lulia | For what it's worth, I suppose so, Napoleone. It's still geared towards 15s |
| 03:37.06 | Lulia | 15s-20s* |
| 03:37.08 | Napoleone | hah |
| 03:37.12 | Napoleone | but the new mechanic? |
| 03:37.12 | Dagmar | I thought DM and SFK were being bumped to >80 in normal mode |
| 03:37.33 | Lulia | No |
| 03:37.56 | Lulia | Final boss in heroic isn't available in normal Napoleone, I dont know if the other boss fights are the same. |
| 03:38.20 | Lulia | But it looks like it'll be fun at-level for the normal modes |
| 03:40.31 | Xyphoid | haven't the new instance levels changed? eg dire maul in the 40s? |
| 03:41.30 | Lulia | Some of them might have been altered, dunno |
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| 03:43.38 | Kraps | the music in elwynn is the same |
| 03:45.56 | Amarande | The passage to Loch Modan has been blocked by the new rift. (From Badlands) |
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| 03:46.06 | Amarande | HOW does Horde get to Badlands at-level then without a death run? |
| 03:46.29 | Rockso | which raidframes are the best? |
| 03:47.07 | Amarande | Seems like you simply cannot get there as Horde without passing through 50-55 territory (since you seem to have to go through SG, which means coming through Burning Steppes) and it's a 35-45 zone. |
| 03:47.36 | Xyphoid | it's a bug |
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| 03:47.44 | Xyphoid | oh wait, the quest is broken isn't it? |
| 03:48.59 | Amarande | Xyph: which quest? |
| 03:49.21 | Xyphoid | http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Fuselight,_Ho!#Notes linked in this very channel |
| 03:49.23 | nebula169 | Amarande: huh? |
| 03:49.26 | Wobin | It was fine to pass though SG |
| 03:49.40 | nebula169 | arathi -> wet lands -> loch -> |
| 03:50.03 | nebula169 | or is that blocked off somehow now |
| 03:51.11 | Xyphoid | so that's breadcrumbed from EPL |
| 03:51.33 | nebula169 | and i just read your initial line, so disregard, lol |
| 03:51.33 | Dagmar | You f**kin *swim* |
| 03:51.47 | Cide | is silithus redone? |
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| 03:52.42 | dardack_home | STUPID BLIZZARD |
| 03:52.56 | Cide | nou |
| 03:53.07 | dardack_home | in IF GetZoneText returns City Of Ironforge, GetMapZones returns Ironforge |
| 03:53.23 | dardack_home | so now i have to hardcode 1 subzone |
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| 03:54.06 | Cide | yeah man! |
| 03:54.22 | Cide | it's not like they spent 3 years redoing all of azeroth |
| 03:54.30 | Arrowmaster | 2 |
| 03:54.31 | Cide | I'm sure you can deal with a 30 second fix |
| 03:54.34 | dardack_home | heh |
| 03:54.38 | dardack_home | i know just dumb |
| 03:54.49 | Arrowmaster | and that stuff has always existed |
| 03:55.02 | Arrowmaster | if that is causing issues then maybe you are doing something wrong |
| 03:55.24 | Arrowmaster | i never even caught what you are even doing |
| 03:55.57 | Dagmar | Oooh... I know what I meant to do tonight |
| 03:56.15 | Dagmar | _Submit the last weeks' player behaviour complaints_ |
| 03:57.24 | Arrowmaster | sweet http://kotaku.com/5697789/dress-your-xbox-live-avatar-in-tron-legacy |
| 03:57.34 | dardack_home | me? |
| 03:57.44 | dardack_home | me arrowmaster? |
| 03:57.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:58.30 | dardack_home | well IsFlyable returns true on EK/Kal now, so have to tell what continent i'm on and if i know the spell to fly on said continent |
| 03:58.49 | Corrodias | Arrowmaster: i might agree if the avatars were good for anything |
| 03:58.49 | dardack_home | and since most of thosee api's return localized zone |
| 03:58.51 | Arrowmaster | so why are you using GetMapZones? |
| 03:59.08 | Corrodias | pay microsoft to dress a model nobody cares about in funny clothes! whee ^_^ |
| 03:59.09 | dardack_home | cause the continent one changes basedd on what map is looking at |
| 03:59.11 | Arrowmaster | thats for the map frame dropdown menus |
| 03:59.28 | Arrowmaster | nothing else |
| 04:00.02 | dardack_home | this is what i mean arrow http://wowuidev.pastey.net/143225 |
| 04:00.12 | Thunder_Child | "Super Meat Boy is a tough as nails platformer where you play as an animated cube of meat who's trying to save his girlfriend (who happens to be made of bandages) from an evil fetus in a jar wearing a tux. "" |
| 04:00.23 | dardack_home | if your saying there is a quicker/easier way |
| 04:00.44 | Arrowmaster | there is surely a better solution |
| 04:00.54 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: No one said it was tastefully done. |
| 04:01.11 | Arrowmaster | you should never try to match the output from GetMapZones() and GetZoneText() |
| 04:01.19 | Arrowmaster | hell you should never use GetZoneText() |
| 04:01.20 | dardack_home | why? |
| 04:01.31 | dardack_home | what else you calling to get zone your in? |
| 04:01.32 | Arrowmaster | because they are not related thus you shouldnt use them together |
| 04:01.37 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: it would be so much better if the fetus has a monocle |
| 04:01.48 | Arrowmaster | !api ZoneText |
| 04:01.48 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'ZoneText': GetMinimapZoneText, GetSubZoneText, GetRealZoneText, GetZoneText |
| 04:01.57 | Arrowmaster | !api GetRealZoneText |
| 04:01.57 | lua_bot | GetRealZoneText: Returns the "official" name of the zone or instance in which the player is located (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRealZoneText) |
| 04:02.42 | dardack_home | ok but are you saying don't even use GetRealZoneText to match against GetMapZones |
| 04:02.48 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:03.28 | dardack_home | then how are you determining the continent? |
| 04:03.57 | Arrowmaster | well you can either use GetRealZoneText() and a list of zone names from somewhere |
| 04:04.11 | Arrowmaster | or you can force the map to your current zone and check that |
| 04:04.23 | Cide | or do both for redundancy |
| 04:04.40 | dardack_home | but why can't you GetMapZones to get that list? |
| 04:05.45 | dardack_home | all i'm doing is creating that list dynamically instead of storing the zone list in lua as a table |
| 04:05.50 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 04:06.23 | Arrowmaster | because GetMapZones is for one purpose, the dropdown list, it doesnt have to match anything else |
| 04:06.23 | Arrowmaster | so you shouldnt use it to try to match anything else |
| 04:06.23 | Arrowmaster | and your dynamic list is WRONG |
| 04:06.27 | Arrowmaster | you already discovered taht |
| 04:06.29 | Arrowmaster | that |
| 04:06.30 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 04:06.34 | dardack_home | no it's not |
| 04:06.37 | Napoleone | my head starts to think ;P |
| 04:06.42 | dardack_home | cause it matches against GetRealZone |
| 04:07.04 | dardack_home | didn't realize there was a diff between GetRealZone and GetZone Text |
| 04:07.05 | Arrowmaster | but you said you already found one zone name that doesnt match |
| 04:07.18 | dardack_home | only with GetZoneText, if i use RealZoneText they match |
| 04:07.55 | Arrowmaster | ok now go and test every zone on every language pack |
| 04:08.05 | dardack_home | !api GetMapZones |
| 04:08.06 | lua_bot | GetMapZones: Returns the map zones for a given continent (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMapZones) |
| 04:08.52 | dardack_home | does GetRealZoneText return localized names or english? |
| 04:09.05 | Arrowmaster | localized |
| 04:09.18 | dardack_home | so it should work |
| 04:09.28 | dardack_home | since GetMapZones is also localized |
| 04:09.33 | dardack_home | i have no other language pack to test |
| 04:10.20 | Arrowmaster | but there is no guaranty that they will be the exact same name |
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| 04:11.22 | dardack_home | i guess i don't follow that logic, since both return MapZones |
| 04:11.31 | dardack_home | i'm not saying your wrong |
| 04:11.35 | dardack_home | i just dont' understand i guess |
| 04:11.47 | Arrowmaster | they have different purposes |
| 04:12.38 | Arrowmaster | and blizzard makes the api for only their needs so when two things are used in completely different ways they dont have to have any consistency between them |
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| 04:13.51 | dardack_home | sso your saying i can't create a dynamic list, i ahve to hardcode every localized zone? |
| 04:14.42 | Arrowmaster | i said thats one option |
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| 04:15.02 | dardack_home | ok how do you force the map to players current continent at least? |
| 04:15.14 | Arrowmaster | the other is to force the map to the current zone and use the api for finding the the continent |
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| 04:16.00 | dardack_home | how do you force it? |
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| 04:16.16 | Arrowmaster | !api currentzone |
| 04:16.16 | lua_bot | SetMapToCurrentZone: Sets the world map to show the zone in which the player is located (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetMapToCurrentZone) |
| 04:16.30 | dardack_home | ty |
| 04:17.01 | Arrowmaster | !api getcurrentmapcontinent |
| 04:17.02 | lua_bot | GetCurrentMapContinent: Returns the current world map continent (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrentMapContinent) |
| 04:17.29 | dardack_home | no i knew that part |
| 04:17.31 | dardack_home | ty tho |
| 04:18.11 | Arrowmaster | only issue is that its not ideal to do that while the worldmap is open |
| 04:18.35 | dardack_home | but then it wouldn't check right continent |
| 04:18.39 | Arrowmaster | because then you change the map when the user might not want that |
| 04:18.47 | dardack_home | yea why i was doing the zone thing |
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| 04:32.41 | Yssaril | dardack_home: you just trying to figure out if you can fly? |
| 04:32.54 | dardack_home | um kinda |
| 04:33.05 | Kraps | is No Ordinary Family any good? |
| 04:33.08 | Yssaril | use IsFlyableArea() and IsUsableSpell(60025) |
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| 04:33.41 | Yssaril | that works everywhere exept for wintergrasp |
| 04:33.43 | |Jelly| | Dear Mages, I hate you - Jelly |
| 04:33.48 | dardack_home | um yea but um IsFlyableArea returns true in azeroth but you can't buy the spell yet |
| 04:34.26 | Shirik | Cide do you remember a while ago we had a conversation about making a candy that was 1/2 calorie? |
| 04:34.29 | Yssaril | dardack_home: that spell is checking a random flying mount to see if it works :P |
| 04:34.35 | Jerub | i'm on ... 31/70 for the barrens quests now. nearly level 18 |
| 04:34.37 | Jerub | i wonder what level i'll be when i finsih them all |
| 04:34.57 | Yssaril | dardack: you can use any of them even if you do not own it to chekc if you can use it |
| 04:35.29 | dardack_home | ahh i see what your saying |
| 04:35.51 | Yssaril | dardack_home: what addon are you working on? |
| 04:35.57 | dardack_home | mountrandommount |
| 04:36.06 | Yssaril | ahh cool |
| 04:37.25 | Yssaril | dardack_home: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libmounts-1-0/ <-- can define all mounts for you and tell you which mount type is the most appropriate atm |
| 04:38.01 | Yssaril | dardack_home: or feel free to look at the code and take peices from it :) its fairly simple to follow |
| 04:38.09 | dardack_home | ahh i wrote my own database |
| 04:38.17 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 04:38.29 | Yssaril | i did too thats my lib :P |
| 04:39.08 | Kraps | LOL http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136952/im-sorry-im-upset-about-southshore |
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| 04:39.52 | Cide | Shirik: vaguely |
| 04:40.29 | Shirik | I found out a tic tac is exactly 1/2 calorie |
| 04:40.40 | Shirik | so if we make those, we can market it as a 0 calorie candy |
| 04:40.52 | Cide | awesome! |
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| 04:43.24 | Kraps | wait what http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083608815?page=15#291 |
| 04:44.51 | Lulia1 | How strange... same function is used to set opacity, however, if I set it via one slider it works, if I set it via another slider it chooses not to work. O.o Hmm, there has to be a difference somewhere. |
| 04:44.52 | Wobin | ?? |
| 04:48.13 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niFj0z3vYA4 |
| 04:48.15 | Wobin | omg paws |
| 04:48.27 | Cairenn | aaaaaa |
| 04:48.28 | Lulia1 | Resource.Base.Frame[i].ResTexture:SetAlpha((PowerBarsDB.PowSet.ResAlpha * PowerBarsDB.PowSet.ResOOCAlpha)); |
| 04:48.36 | Cairenn | wwwwww |
| 04:49.02 | Lulia | If I change PowerBarsDB.PowSet.ResAlpha, then the opacity doesn't change. If I change PowerBarsDB.PowSet.ResOOCAlpha then the opacity changes |
| 04:49.17 | Lulia | Video is cute btw, Wobin |
| 04:52.26 | dardack_home | !api isaffected |
| 04:52.26 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'isaffected'. |
| 04:52.41 | Wobin | !api unitisaffected |
| 04:52.42 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'unitisaffected'. |
| 04:52.53 | dardack_home | !api affected |
| 04:52.53 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'affected'. |
| 04:53.05 | Kraps | massively got a new look and is now at http://massively.joystiq.com |
| 04:53.08 | nebula169 | !affecting |
| 04:53.11 | nebula169 | !api affecting |
| 04:53.12 | lua_bot | UnitAffectingCombat: Returns whether a unit is currently in combat (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAffectingCombat) |
| 04:53.19 | nebula169 | :p |
| 04:53.54 | Amarande | Evening Cairenn :) |
| 04:54.00 | Amarande | Bah. You know what one semi-annoying thing about this patch is? |
| 04:54.20 | Lulia | ? |
| 04:54.22 | Amarande | I remember the 30s used to be a relatively sedate and peaceful set of levels through instances. You got nice, quick SM instances and at the higher end you might get RFD every now and then. |
| 04:54.31 | Amarande | Now you can get Mara in the 30s. :( |
| 04:54.38 | Kraps | derp |
| 04:55.12 | Kraps | mara is getting cut by at least a third |
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| 04:55.40 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 04:57.33 | Amarande | aaaaand I almost queued for a dungeon again forgetting I haven't played this toon apart from teleporting around and doing PB stuff since before 4.0.1 and thus I need to spec. |
| 04:57.52 | Amarande | Looks like they've made Frost mages viable for raiding now ... though people are complaining about a lack of choice in spec |
| 04:58.51 | bluspacecow | arcanes pretty face roll atm |
| 04:58.57 | Lulia | Hmm, I put the two multiplied values into one variable and tried that and there's still a difference. There has to be a difference between the slider script functions |
| 04:59.15 | Lulia | bluespacecow: It's supposed to change at 85, where you'll have to watch your mana |
| 05:01.26 | Amarande | bluspacecow: yeah, that's why I complained a bit that arcane got buffed |
| 05:01.37 | Amarande | because arcane doesn't NEED any more reasons for people to choose it |
| 05:02.06 | Amarande | I'm tempted to go frost, but I might be cussing myself out in Northrend when I get to the ice elementals in HF. |
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| 05:06.51 | Yssaril | Amarande: i thought they removed elemental imunities a while back in Wotlk |
| 05:07.02 | Napoleone | aaw i liked mara the way it was |
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| 05:08.34 | Thunder_Child | blizz needs to make a hardcore pita dungeon. eg. a maze that uses portals to get around that randomly have the portals change where they go for each time you run the dungeon |
| 05:08.49 | Napoleone | ye |
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| 05:08.53 | Napoleone | dynamic dungeons |
| 05:08.57 | Napoleone | and a story to em |
| 05:09.13 | Mr_Rabies | hardcore pita bread dungeon |
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| 05:09.20 | Napoleone | mmm pita bread |
| 05:09.46 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: that would be horrific for pugs |
| 05:09.48 | Yssaril | Thunder_Child: lbrs and brd not confusing enough for you? |
| 05:09.55 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: one that's procedurally generated based on the group leader's GUID, that way it's possible to learn YOURS but run-throughs online are worthless |
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| 05:10.11 | Wobin | I actually wrote one of those for a MUD |
| 05:10.15 | Wobin | it was a priest ritual |
| 05:10.20 | Wobin | that programatically generated a maze |
| 05:10.22 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: i dont think they would do that due to their new 60 minutes or less philosophy |
| 05:10.22 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: well people wouldnt pug it |
| 05:10.29 | Wobin | and dumped the target of the ritual into it |
| 05:10.30 | Thunder_Child | Yssaril: no |
| 05:10.42 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: bah, that takes all the fun out of it. totaly random! |
| 05:10.49 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: thats why i said a small corner |
| 05:10.52 | Kemayo | Anyone else having items not load? (Like, almost everything in a store is stuck on "loading item data") |
| 05:10.55 | Wobin | and they had to find the exit, or wait for the ritual to wear off |
| 05:11.03 | Amarande | btw, speaking of GUID/UUID ... are those things you request from a central authority and are registered with them when created, or are they something that you just create? |
| 05:11.13 | Thunder_Child | the same way that you can choose toe pvp for no xp for the rest of your life |
| 05:11.23 | Amarande | and that simply rely on the mathematical huge number of possibilities for uniqueness? |
| 05:11.24 | Wobin | Amarande: in Wow specifically, or generally? |
| 05:11.24 | Iriel | You mean the "standard" UUID's? |
| 05:11.26 | Yssaril | Kemayo: nope works fine here you may need to restart your client |
| 05:11.28 | Amarande | In general. |
| 05:11.29 | Thunder_Child | something away from the mainstream |
| 05:11.40 | Iriel | They're generated by an algorithm, there's a few schemes, many involve MAC address and current time |
| 05:12.05 | Arrowmaster | theres a program on linux that generates them |
| 05:12.21 | Amarande | Do you think we're ever going to see a case within the lifetime of the habitable Earth of duplicate UUIDs being created? |
| 05:12.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:12.39 | Wobin | there's always the chance |
| 05:12.50 | Wobin | UUIDs are not necessarily unique |
| 05:13.09 | Amarande | yeah, I'm guessing it's pretty much the Ace-Deuce-Jack principle, eventually, when you draw enough of them over sufficiently long times :) |
| 05:13.11 | Wobin | they're just unique enough |
| 05:15.15 | Wobin | in related news, around 98 days til the ARPAgeddon |
| 05:15.22 | Lulia | Oooh, I think I figured out my issue |
| 05:15.35 | Nobgul | Lulia! |
| 05:15.50 | Lulia | Damn, that wasn't it :-/ |
| 05:15.53 | Lulia | Hey there, Nobgul |
| 05:16.02 | Kemayo | Yssaril: Quitting and deleting the cache folder got it fixed. |
| 05:16.16 | Nobgul | Hey, I have some feedback for you for the power bars. |
| 05:16.31 | Lulia | ? |
| 05:16.53 | Yssaril | Kemayo: good to hear i think its the same "bug" as the combat log going AWOL just doesnt happen nearly as often |
| 05:16.55 | Nobgul | 1 sec phone lol |
| 05:17.38 | Amarande | what's the ARPAgeddon, Wobin? |
| 05:17.46 | Amarande | when they finally run out of IPv4 address space to allocate? |
| 05:18.17 | Nobgul | Soon ish |
| 05:19.35 | Wobin | Amarande: yeah |
| 05:21.16 | Nobgul | Is there still training dummy's in org? |
| 05:21.38 | Amarande | nice, one class still has a 25% healing debuff |
| 05:21.44 | Amarande | in fact, in a previously reviled spec |
| 05:21.54 | Amarande | *shrug* I can barely find ANYTHING in org anymore |
| 05:23.58 | Yssaril | where do i go for that plant vs zombie questline? |
| 05:26.01 | Kemayo | Heh. I just got on a taxi from Dun Niffelhem, and my drake is running in the air along the taxi route. |
| 05:27.05 | Wobin | Amarande: which one? |
| 05:27.15 | Nobgul | Anyone? training dummies in org? |
| 05:27.26 | bluspacecow | ooooo boy |
| 05:27.30 | bluspacecow | my toons too drunk |
| 05:27.40 | bluspacecow | everythings fuzzy and spins when moves |
| 05:27.54 | bluspacecow | and you vomit if youve had too much too drink |
| 05:28.01 | bluspacecow | *sits in chair* |
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| 05:31.06 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 05:31.08 | Amarande | Wobin: Frost mage. |
| 05:31.37 | Amarande | ah, dammit. |
| 05:31.43 | Amarande | outdated talent calculator. this one's nerfed too. |
| 05:31.45 | Amarande | why'd they do that, anyway? |
| 05:32.01 | Amarande | now classes that don't have good interrupts practically have to OOM mobs that have Heal or Greater Heal |
| 05:32.08 | Amarande | or particularly outpower them |
| 05:32.25 | Amarande | even at 25%, mobs with those still pretty much healed full with a cast of that |
| 05:35.05 | Amarande | At least Permafrost's healing nerf is still a little icing on the cake that's nice to have, unlike, say, Widow Venom which might as well not even exist at all |
| 05:35.22 | Amarande | To add insult to injury, Widow Venom still costs focus ... if it's going to be that weak, it should at least just be a GCD with no resource cost |
| 05:35.29 | Jerub | heh, there's 10-20 people in org all trying to kill gamon |
| 05:36.42 | Jerub | heh they got him down |
| 05:36.53 | Amarande | Can't be that hard, especially if you have mostly physical DPS. |
| 05:37.12 | Jerub | he one-shots 80s. |
| 05:37.14 | Amarande | Hit chance isn't really THAT bad against an 85 if you're in raid gear, since physical hit chance decays a lot less rapidly than caster. |
| 05:37.25 | Amarande | Jerub: including heroic-ICC geared tanks? |
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| 05:37.56 | Jerub | dunno. what got him down was hunters+druids kiting him back and forth using entangling roots |
| 05:38.05 | Jerub | i must've ressed 6 guys who were attacking him |
| 05:38.40 | Jamash | I wish I could heal gamon |
| 05:38.46 | Jamash | I totally would if I could |
| 05:38.54 | Amarande | heh. that's right, you can rez people in the raid if you are not in the raid, can't you :) |
| 05:39.00 | Amarande | OOC rezzers do work for world bosses? |
| 05:42.47 | Shirik | wooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:42.55 | Shirik | got a free first class upgrade for flight tomorrow |
| 05:42.59 | Shirik | on the busiest day of the year |
| 05:43.11 | Wobin | Shirik: nice! |
| 05:43.38 | Amarande | Deathwing started zapping areas yet? |
| 05:43.53 | Amarande | Shirik: I've considered starting to purchase upgrades to first class when I see them available at check in. :) |
| 05:44.16 | Adys | Who wants cookies? |
| 05:44.33 | Adys | free cookies to whoever figures out the name of the actor who played Dr. Joshua Hamel in Lie to Me - S03E07 - Veronica |
| 05:44.39 | Adys | it's not on imdb |
| 05:45.11 | Napoleone | let me see the ep 2 sec |
| 05:46.52 | Adys | note: i think it's http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0343325/ |
| 05:47.00 | Adys | but it's nowhere to be found |
| 05:47.30 | Napoleone | the man of the cloth? |
| 05:47.30 | Napoleone | guy |
| 05:47.30 | Napoleone | oh thats fringe |
| 05:47.35 | Nobgul | try tvrage |
| 05:48.27 | Shirik | Amarande: I tend to do that too |
| 05:48.44 | Shirik | but United takes care of me because I'm a premier customer so sometimes they're like "Oh btw we upgraded you" |
| 05:49.01 | Shirik | they didn't even ask me if I wanted an aisle seat first though :( |
| 05:49.03 | Shirik | not that I'm complaining |
| 05:49.06 | Amarande | Ah. I used to be a Delta loyalist before their website gave me issues. |
| 05:49.32 | Amarande | Mostly 1) that TSA wants everyone to use middle names now and while I got it added to my ID, their site didn't get updated for it |
| 05:49.53 | Amarande | and 2) I couldn't use an American Express card anymore with them, and haven't checked since to see if they fixed that. |
| 05:50.26 | Amarande | It's actually sadly not the first time I've seen this sort of issue with AmEx cards on web purchases. |
| 05:51.02 | Amarande | Sleepy or otherwise inattentive web designer sets the CVV field to only allow 3 digits to be entered. Oops. |
| 05:51.19 | Nobgul | lol |
| 05:51.32 | Nobgul | My company website only allows 3 digits |
| 05:51.44 | Nobgul | I have told them 3000 times to fix it but they don't seem to care |
| 05:52.54 | Amarande | Nobgul: guess they don't need their AmEx customers then |
| 05:53.12 | Nobgul | Guess not. |
| 05:53.16 | Amarande | The other issue I've seen, that's rarer, is when a site insists on exactly 16 digits for a CC# |
| 05:53.32 | Amarande | Since AmEx cards only have 15, it will claim till it's blue in the face and your Rage bar is full that it's not a valid number |
| 05:53.45 | Amarande | even if the form has the AmEx logo right at the bottom under accepted cards :P |
| 05:55.09 | Jamash | leading 0? |
| 05:56.05 | Amarande | Never thought of that. |
| 05:56.28 | Amarande | Wow. I wonder how long before leveling guides are just going to say "take herbalism or mining, stay in the dungeon queue at all times and gather, and forget about questing" |
| 05:56.41 | Amarande | With the gather XP, questing may even be an inefficient way of leveling now by comparison |
| 05:57.04 | Amarande | Three or four green-level herb gathers and you've pretty much got a quest's worth of XP if not more |
| 05:58.03 | Napoleone | ye |
| 05:58.14 | Napoleone | hmm anyone know how much it takes to lvl up guild? |
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| 05:59.14 | Amarande | good lord flight paths practically grow on trees now :) |
| 05:59.26 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 05:59.30 | Napoleone | but its annoying |
| 05:59.35 | Napoleone | that no portal hubs |
| 05:59.41 | Napoleone | no easy way to do what i want lol |
| 05:59.49 | Nobgul | Pocket Mage |
| 05:59.54 | Adys | Amarande: try eastern plaguelands.. |
| 06:01.31 | Amarande | about to start the Plaguelands now. |
| 06:01.35 | Amarande | if I can get there in one piece, anyway |
| 06:02.11 | bluspacecow | so my friend tamed a monkey and one of its ability is this : http://www.wowhead.com/spell=903​37 ... literally to throw poops :) |
| 06:02.56 | Amarande | How does Alliance get from Arathi into Hillsbrad without getting flagged? |
| 06:03.05 | Amarande | well, flagged or dead, anyway |
| 06:03.13 | Wobin | what are they going to do to mage portals? |
| 06:03.29 | bluspacecow | not a clue wobin |
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| 06:03.45 | Shirik | Amarande: My favorite part of my name is that it has two last names |
| 06:03.57 | Shirik | and every time I try to book a flight or check in they're like "what?!?! you can't have spaces in your last name!" |
| 06:03.59 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083608815?page=15#291 |
| 06:04.04 | bluspacecow | is the only clue i have |
| 06:04.20 | Iriel | Shirik: My lack of a middle name confuses some |
| 06:04.41 | Napoleone | Shirik try having a passport with danish naming, and all others are naming differently |
| 06:04.42 | Shirik | My favorite part is how my debit card handles it |
| 06:04.51 | Shirik | Every time I use it, the receipt says "Matthew Del" |
| 06:04.58 | Napoleone | danish passports have, frontname, midd, midd, lastname |
| 06:05.07 | Shirik | It seems the globally accepted delimiter for names is a space or something |
| 06:05.12 | Napoleone | but how its written is front, front, last, last |
| 06:05.13 | Shirik | so it just throws out half my name |
| 06:05.28 | Napoleone | so everytime i go through security, then they pull me to the side |
| 06:08.16 | olafski | so... did DKs get their 20% rune regeneration in blood presence thing? :D |
| 06:08.44 | Arrowmaster | try being an american with a very german last name that nobody ever spells correctly |
| 06:09.18 | Adys | Sholazar is 75 or 76? |
| 06:09.41 | olafski | I'd say 76 |
| 06:09.52 | olafski | I think at that level the mage will teleport you there |
| 06:10.37 | Adys | ah yeah you're right |
| 06:10.39 | Wobin | haha http://twitpic.com/39nr3g |
| 06:10.57 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=90337 |
| 06:11.47 | olafski | amarande: I'm planning to level with archaeology :-) |
| 06:19.58 | Amarande | Ok, am I using the wrong rotation or do non-fire mages just tend to do fairly anemic DPS in a 5-man setting before you get blizzard? |
| 06:20.27 | Amarande | anyway, regarding Hillsbrad: the path from Arathi seems to be guarded by PvP marked Horde guys. :| |
| 06:21.10 | Nobgul | good kill the stinky alliance |
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| 06:22.30 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5697845/playing-video-games-on-a-screen-bigger-than-a-football-field |
| 06:23.00 | Amarande | Nobgul: not good when you're ally and trying to get to WPL |
| 06:24.16 | Nobgul | lol |
| 06:25.51 | Nobgul | lol ^^ |
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| 06:50.29 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136979/portals-needed-in-some-shape-form |
| 06:51.12 | Kraps | also http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136974/patch-403a-hotfixes |
| 06:53.18 | nevcairiel | people really dont pay much attention to upcoming changes, do they |
| 06:55.54 | nebula169 | lol, trade was non-stop crying about not having portals in dal |
| 06:56.23 | Corrodias | they should get rid of mounts, too |
| 06:56.23 | nebula169 | and people had no idea how to get to the zepplins |
| 06:56.28 | nebula169 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.02 | Fisker | kraps my Kraps |
| 06:57.12 | Trela | No portals in Dalaran will make sense once Cataclysm is out and every is in the old world. Right now it is just a pain in the ass. |
| 06:57.31 | Jamash | yeah so why didn't they remove the portals in two weeks |
| 06:57.58 | Fisker | naw Trela |
| 06:58.15 | bluspacecow | jamash : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083608815?page=28#550 |
| 06:58.18 | Trela | Just because it was already part of patch 4.0.3a and Blizzard will never back down from changing some thing in a patch after they already stated it. |
| 06:58.33 | Iriel | Also, what difference will waiting 2 weeks make? |
| 06:58.43 | Iriel | Anyone who didn't prepare this time will fail to prepare that time |
| 06:58.48 | Trela | They pushed the patch out, say, "Our bad", and then hot fix it 1.5 weeks later even though it will not mater 0.5 weeks after that. |
| 06:59.00 | Jamash | "a ton of additional development time" sounds fishy to me |
| 06:59.44 | Trela | It always is. |
| 06:59.52 | Fisker | omg yes |
| 06:59.54 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 07:00.05 | Fisker | they're removing that silly "more blue than red gems" requirement |
| 07:00.15 | Jamash | anyway, they do change their minds about some things, like fisker is squeeing about |
| 07:00.26 | Trela | Though, considering this is Blizzard, they manage to fuck things up in spectacular ways. :D |
| 07:00.30 | nevcairiel | we've been over that portal discussion in beta |
| 07:00.33 | nevcairiel | with lenthy threads |
| 07:00.36 | nevcairiel | i dont see them backing out |
| 07:00.43 | nevcairiel | lengthy* |
| 07:00.56 | Fisker | doesn't matter anyway |
| 07:01.01 | Fisker | Set your HS to orgrimmar |
| 07:01.03 | Jamash | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=174638/new-feature-personalized-quest-searches O_O |
| 07:01.06 | Fisker | use your AT tabard |
| 07:01.06 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 07:01.16 | Jamash | that's what I'm gonna do on my main |
| 07:01.26 | Jamash | don't have AT tabards on my other 3 lvl80s |
| 07:01.30 | nevcairiel | I logged out in shatt last night because i didnt think about it =/ |
| 07:01.30 | Trela | AT? |
| 07:01.32 | Fisker | i just came Jamash |
| 07:01.35 | Jamash | argent tourney |
| 07:01.47 | nebula169 | jaina's locket /nod |
| 07:01.51 | Jamash | Fisker: that's nice |
| 07:01.54 | Fisker | your 3 other lvl 80's don't need northrend or classic then! |
| 07:01.54 | Iriel | Or your RIng of the Kirin Tor |
| 07:02.12 | Fisker | i kinda feel bad for those who got the locket |
| 07:02.15 | Jamash | can't afford a ring of the kirin tor |
| 07:02.19 | Fisker | it can't be worth much in the expansion |
| 07:02.27 | nevcairiel | archaeology will give you items to teleport to stormwind, so you can put your hearthstone somewhere else |
| 07:02.31 | Fisker | sounds fishy Jamash |
| 07:02.33 | nevcairiel | once cataclysm hits, anyway :p |
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| 07:02.56 | Jamash | s/afford/be arsed to pay for/ |
| 07:03.19 | Fisker | that's better |
| 07:03.36 | Jamash | anyway I'm slowly accumulating teleportation devices for each region of the wow universe |
| 07:03.53 | Jamash | I have the BRD mole machine, the medallion of karabor and the argent tourney tabard so far |
| 07:04.08 | nevcairiel | being a druid, the moonglade teleport is pretty handy too |
| 07:04.24 | Jamash | and once I get the guild tabard that ports to orgrimmar I'll have one for each continent |
| 07:04.55 | Jamash | guild cloak* |
| 07:04.59 | nevcairiel | the brd mole machine isnt really the best place to come out when you want to go to eastern kingdoms |
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| 07:05.11 | Jamash | it is when you're raiding blackrock mountain |
| 07:05.22 | nevcairiel | even then, kinda annoying to get out of brd from there |
| 07:05.25 | Jamash | nah |
| 07:05.33 | Dagmar | I'm just glad they didn't disable it |
| 07:05.35 | Jamash | leave group, port to gy ;) |
| 07:06.04 | nevcairiel | you sure that works? Its a 5man, you can go in there alone |
| 07:06.14 | Dagmar | I've gone in there a _bunch_ |
| 07:06.18 | Jamash | well, it works for 4 members of the party |
| 07:06.31 | DJJeff | is there a boat from darkshore to sw and darnasus? |
| 07:06.32 | Jamash | and then they can summon the 5th |
| 07:06.43 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 07:06.43 | Jamash | there are no boats from darkshore to anywhere |
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| 07:06.52 | DJJeff | shhhhh |
| 07:07.24 | DJJeff | can we swim? |
| 07:07.25 | Jamash | Pier closed due to dragon |
| 07:07.48 | Amarande | so is Argent Champion a FoS now? |
| 07:07.50 | Jamash | you can fly to rut'theran village, which has boats to stormwind and the exodar |
| 07:08.25 | Amarande | Fisker: now you're going to go on about how you don't want to die, how we need to let you go and Beelzebub has a devil put aside for you, right? :) |
| 07:08.29 | Fisker | do you gain guild experience this patch, or is that still disabled? |
| 07:08.39 | Jamash | no guild xp this patch, which makes me a sad panda |
| 07:09.00 | Fisker | baw |
| 07:09.45 | nevcairiel | would be kinda cool if you could level you guild now and get the perks, so leveling to 85 is faster |
| 07:09.50 | nevcairiel | but i can understand why they dont want it |
| 07:09.51 | Fisker | i don't get it Amarande |
| 07:10.08 | Fisker | actually i suck cocks |
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| 07:10.14 | Fisker | i was thinking about guild rep not exp :P |
| 07:10.24 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 07:10.28 | nevcairiel | cant get either of those |
| 07:11.01 | Jamash | Frostwolf insignia rank 6 should teleport the user to hillsbrad foothills if used when not in AV, imo |
| 07:11.28 | Fisker | my head shouldn't hurt so much Jamash |
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| 07:12.23 | Dagmar | Holy crap |
| 07:12.32 | Dagmar | THat new cinematic is FREAKING AWESOME!@!! |
| 07:12.39 | djDef | yea pretty bda ass eh? |
| 07:13.06 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 07:13.53 | djDef | reminds me of LOTR |
| 07:14.41 | Fisker | i would kill myself but i'm not sure if i'm sedated in such a way that i would fall down into limbo in this dreamstate djDef |
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| 07:21.06 | Jamash | anyone know what happened to mannoroth's armor? |
| 07:21.26 | Dagmar | The lighting changes in Ironforge are nifty |
| 07:21.39 | Dagmar | The daylight shining in through the hole those gnomes fly out of is sweet |
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| 07:46.34 | zenzio | "I realize that you've gone through three or four different reasons about why it's a bad change, jumping to the next as I refute the last, and that by continuing a conversation along these lines I'm simply driving myself closer to madness." |
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| 07:48.06 | nevcairiel | heh bashiok is awesome |
| 07:49.06 | zenzio | indeed |
| 07:49.11 | nevcairiel | his last post in the portals thread is great |
| 07:49.24 | Shirik | Link |
| 07:49.26 | mitch0 | linky? |
| 07:49.43 | zenzio | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136938/blues-why-are-portals-removed |
| 07:49.53 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083608815?page=33#655 |
| 07:49.54 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 07:49.55 | Shirik | nice amro |
| 07:49.58 | bluspacecow | win |
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| 07:51.02 | zenzio | I also find this suggestion from another portal thread interesting: "Alternative fixes may include: Instant flight paths, instant Zeppelins" |
| 07:51.15 | zenzio | so.. let's remove portals and replace them with... portals by another name! |
| 07:51.16 | nevcairiel | isnt that like ... portals? |
| 07:51.38 | nevcairiel | you know, we used to get around the world just fine |
| 07:51.41 | zenzio | it would even be "improved portals" since you'd have many more targets |
| 07:51.42 | nevcairiel | without flying mounts |
| 07:51.43 | nevcairiel | without portals |
| 07:51.56 | Jamash | no we didn't |
| 07:52.05 | Jamash | we used to get around slowly and bitch about it |
| 07:52.14 | zenzio | meh, it worked fine |
| 07:52.26 | Jamash | and warlocks had to bring 40 shards with them to summon the raid |
| 07:52.29 | zenzio | we were awestruck when we didn't have to sit around and choose each individual flight path |
| 07:52.30 | nevcairiel | It actually felt like you were playing in the world |
| 07:52.31 | mitch0 | I only had one character, and that was a mage :) |
| 07:52.41 | nevcairiel | not just sitting in dalaran and teleporting to dungeons all day |
| 07:53.15 | Jamash | I remember taking the zep from org and then flying to kargath |
| 07:53.33 | Jamash | I don't recall it being particularly compelling the fortieth time |
| 07:53.47 | nevcairiel | zenzio: linked flight path are great, doesnt make much sense that i cannot tell the gryphon to directly take me to my destination :d |
| 07:54.08 | zenzio | nevcairiel: in a logical sense, I agree |
| 07:55.12 | Dagmar | Damnit. |
| 07:55.33 | Dagmar | We make headway on getting the gnomes out of Ironforge and what happens? |
| 07:55.38 | Dagmar | F**king _elves_ move in. |
| 07:56.03 | Shirik | lol. |
| 07:56.38 | mitch0 | huh, this post is unnerving a bit though (regarding mage portals): "Enjoy it while it lasts mages. Because it won't." <- uhm? |
| 07:56.56 | djDef | say what mitch? |
| 07:57.30 | mitch0 | bashiok said that in reply to "... Never fear, the mages are here! " |
| 07:57.41 | mitch0 | (in the portals thread) |
| 07:57.45 | Amarande | Dagmar: I like elves, I hate gnomes, so that's fine with me. |
| 07:57.47 | bluspacecow | heh heh |
| 07:57.55 | bluspacecow | i say |
| 07:57.59 | bluspacecow | he disabled mages |
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| 07:58.05 | bluspacecow | from using any porting or teleport spells |
| 07:58.07 | bluspacecow | in dalaran |
| 07:58.10 | bluspacecow | just to be a butt |
| 07:58.17 | Amarande | F**k! |
| 07:58.23 | Dagmar | Welll, to me the neighborhood's gone completely to crap now |
| 07:58.26 | Amarande | When did they make there be a deposit on items with no vendor price |
| 07:58.32 | Amarande | No more safe investments in enchant mats now |
| 07:58.33 | bluspacecow | *disables |
| 07:58.34 | airtonix | [QQ Collecting Bucket] |
| 07:58.35 | Dagmar | All we need is pointy-eared hipsters cluttering up the place. |
| 07:58.39 | bluspacecow | as in thats what i might do |
| 07:58.47 | Dagmar | Airtonix: where can I loot me one of those? |
| 07:59.00 | Amarande | Dagmar: Ask Algalon, he probably carries a few to hold the tears he feeds on |
| 07:59.10 | airtonix | Dagmar, i made one out of the skull cap of fisker |
| 07:59.16 | Amarande | And I think he starts out neutral, so he might be willing to answer questions :) |
| 07:59.30 | Dajova | fucking hell, still 2 hours away from the EU servers to come back up :( /babycry |
| 07:59.55 | airtonix | gaiz i solved the problem with wow |
| 08:00.02 | Dagmar | O.M.F.G. the cobblestones in Stormwind |
| 08:00.06 | airtonix | I"VE DELIVERED YOUR SALVATION |
| 08:00.08 | bluspacecow | dajova you may want |
| 08:00.08 | Shirik | you see Dajova |
| 08:00.12 | Shirik | if you were smart, you would live in the US |
| 08:00.13 | bluspacecow | to delete your cache folder |
| 08:00.19 | airtonix | lol? |
| 08:00.22 | bluspacecow | i logged in and crashed |
| 08:00.32 | bluspacecow | then had to delete my cache folder |
| 08:00.45 | airtonix | or did you ? |
| 08:00.45 | Dajova | Shirik: pfft, im glad im not living there to be honest :) |
| 08:00.46 | Amarande | Apparently there is now a 1 silver deposit on the AH for any item that doesn't have a vendor price. |
| 08:01.36 | nevcairiel | thats not really alot |
| 08:01.37 | Dagmar | Damn, Stormwind full on upgraded to 1080 |
| 08:01.50 | Dajova | or did you plan to give me the money to fly there, get a apparment and pay for the food and the isp, then im fine with that! |
| 08:02.01 | Shirik | Dajova: Then no complaints about having to wait |
| 08:02.09 | Shirik | If you refuse to live with the big boys you don't get the rewards of the big boys |
| 08:02.12 | nevcairiel | Instead, you would complain about everything else |
| 08:02.26 | Dajova | im not a big boy, sorry! im just a large boy! |
| 08:02.27 | nevcairiel | but you would have servers earlier |
| 08:02.53 | Shirik | ok night |
| 08:02.56 | Dajova | oh the nerdrage ppl are having |
| 08:03.48 | Dajova | and btw, i wasnt serious about the babycry :) |
| 08:05.28 | bluspacecow | your baby is not crying ? |
| 08:06.11 | Dajova | nah... if it would, i would be dried out |
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| 08:15.36 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:15.38 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 08:15.40 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 08:15.49 | bluspacecow | let me guess |
| 08:15.53 | bluspacecow | you once killed a man |
| 08:16.02 | bluspacecow | and you want to do it with my mum ? |
| 08:16.09 | bluspacecow | cause my mom shes a hot lady |
| 08:16.13 | Fisker | i did but i don't see what's that got to do with it |
| 08:16.17 | nevcairiel | I once killed a dane, and i'm not afraid to do it again |
| 08:16.22 | bluspacecow | do it do it do it do it do it |
| 08:16.24 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Don't make me unleash the hair. |
| 08:16.29 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 08:16.36 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.54 | nevcairiel | btw, the new login screen music is much ebtter then the old one |
| 08:16.57 | Torhal | Foof! |
| 08:17.26 | Dagmar | Feel like my eyes are gonna bust |
| 08:17.34 | Dagmar | Too much shiny and new! |
| 08:17.41 | Torhal | nevcairiel: I was shocked that they got rid of the signature sound...it has parts of all the former versions, but the main part is completely gone. |
| 08:18.13 | Fisker | blizzard is like "OMG UPGRADE ACCOUNTS PL0X" |
| 08:18.18 | Torhal | Duh-duh-duh.....duh! |
| 08:18.22 | Torhal | No more! |
| 08:18.45 | nevcairiel | blizzard was like, uhuh, suspicious activity, better make him change his password, on me this morning |
| 08:18.54 | nevcairiel | just because i tried to login while the servers were down! |
| 08:18.57 | Fisker | anyone know what that cataclysm recruit a friend is? |
| 08:19.06 | Fisker | naw nevcairiel |
| 08:19.09 | Torhal | nevcairiel: That happened to me when I went to Curse last week. |
| 08:19.11 | Fisker | it doesn't work that way |
| 08:19.19 | nevcairiel | I never logged in anywhere but from here |
| 08:19.27 | bluspacecow | Torhal went to Curse |
| 08:19.35 | bluspacecow | *curious scooby doo type sound* |
| 08:19.40 | nevcairiel | but they just send me an email with a pw reset link |
| 08:19.43 | nevcairiel | nothing ground breaking |
| 08:19.43 | Torhal | I suppose a 230-mile difference set off an alarm somewhere, despite the fact that I used my authenticator. |
| 08:20.02 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Yes, I went to visit for three days. |
| 08:20.02 | Dagmar | You clicked on a link in an email from Blizzard? |
| 08:20.07 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 08:20.09 | bluspacecow | yay |
| 08:20.34 | nevcairiel | i really like the new music, it seems to be really long, too. Still listening, and i hear new parts |
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| 08:20.48 | Torhal | It's over five minutes, I believe |
| 08:21.03 | Fisker | wotlk one was 10 minutes i believe |
| 08:21.13 | Torhal | Fisker: But not over 9000. |
| 08:21.34 | Torhal | Meh. I should go to bed. Three hours until wakeup call. |
| 08:22.34 | nevcairiel | i wonder if they'll sell the new sound track seperate, dont want to get the CE just to get the sound track :D |
| 08:23.42 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1074268108?page=45#897 |
| 08:23.43 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 08:24.57 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/fiskerdin/ <-can anyone figure out why it says i have +21 spirit and +20 intellect from gems and enchants? |
| 08:24.59 | nevcairiel | deathwing could really roar |
| 08:25.05 | nevcairiel | at least after watching it like 20 minutes |
| 08:25.29 | Fisker | man i hate it when MVP's can't follow simple rules |
| 08:25.34 | nevcairiel | Fisker: 10 all stats enchant, 10 all stats gem |
| 08:25.44 | Fisker | where's the last 1 coming from? |
| 08:25.44 | nevcairiel | still 1 spirit unaccounted for |
| 08:25.45 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 08:26.08 | Dagmar | It's those greens you're wearing. The armory doesn't handle them properly. |
| 08:26.40 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 08:26.43 | Fisker | is it you btw? |
| 08:26.47 | Fisker | or another mvp? |
| 08:26.49 | nevcairiel | probably a glitch |
| 08:27.02 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:27.13 | bluspacecow | mvp where? |
| 08:27.40 | Dagmar | The armory has some weird glitches... http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skywall&cn=Eshk |
| 08:27.46 | Dagmar | I didn't get any Winged Helm yesterday. |
| 08:29.11 | Fisker | the link you posted bluspacecow |
| 08:29.18 | Fisker | some mvp who can't forum rules |
| 08:29.21 | bluspacecow | that is not me |
| 08:29.34 | bluspacecow | the blues of the CS forums allow one OT thread |
| 08:30.02 | Fisker | i wasn't talking about the OT thread |
| 08:30.10 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 08:30.23 | bluspacecow | which thread then ? |
| 08:30.47 | bluspacecow | heres what one of my posts looks like : |
| 08:30.48 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1115861819 |
| 08:31.31 | bluspacecow | or http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083361021 |
| 08:31.36 | bluspacecow | where i post long cat |
| 08:34.55 | Fisker | no Blu|Eating |
| 08:35.03 | Fisker | i wasn't talking about the ot thread being a violation |
| 08:35.17 | Fisker | i was talking about the mvp who posted in that thread |
| 08:35.22 | Blu|Eating | oh |
| 08:35.34 | Blu|Eating | what was his violation ? |
| 08:35.43 | Fisker | spam |
| 08:36.21 | Blu|Eating | where ? |
| 08:36.30 | Fisker | he's posting a signature in his posts |
| 08:37.02 | Blu|Eating | .... |
| 08:37.09 | Blu|Eating | thats not a violation :D |
| 08:37.19 | Fisker | they have a rule against spam, no? |
| 08:37.27 | Blu|Eating | yeah |
| 08:37.27 | Blu|Eating | but |
| 08:37.32 | Blu|Eating | thats via a script |
| 08:37.36 | Blu|Eating | that some of the blue are using |
| 08:38.03 | Fisker | They removed the signature functionality of the forums because they didn't want signatures |
| 08:38.17 | Blu|Eating | and ? |
| 08:38.22 | Fisker | spam means unsolicited communication |
| 08:38.24 | Blu|Eating | some of the blue posters are also using signatures |
| 08:38.33 | Fisker | they don't want signatures = signatures are unsolicited communication = spam |
| 08:38.39 | Fisker | sucks to be blues then |
| 08:39.13 | Fisker | a blue also gave a player an item that allowed him to oneshot everything, as i recall he lost his job |
| 08:39.54 | Blu|Eating | and ? |
| 08:40.00 | Blu|Eating | i don't see how thats relevant |
| 08:40.16 | Blu|Eating | many of the greens , some blue posters and some forum regulars are all using that script |
| 08:40.29 | Blu|Eating | if they disapproved of it we would of heard by now :) |
| 08:40.39 | Fisker | you did hear about it |
| 08:40.46 | Fisker | They removed the signature functionality |
| 08:40.47 | Blu|Eating | and what are they going to do ? ban people about signatures ? |
| 08:40.51 | Blu|Eating | get real. |
| 08:40.57 | Fisker | maybe they haven't heard about it because noone have bothered reporting it? |
| 08:41.04 | Fisker | You said that blues doing made it ok |
| 08:41.09 | Blu|Eating | then go ahead and report it |
| 08:41.20 | Fisker | i'm not on the US so i can't anyway |
| 08:41.27 | Fisker | but i will report anyone i see doing it on EU |
| 08:41.41 | Blu|Eating | meh go ahead |
| 08:41.44 | Blu|Eating | too hungry ! |
| 08:41.50 | Blu|Eating | need foods bai bais |
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| 09:20.59 | Dajova | EU servers back up :D |
| 09:22.52 | haste | oh that's true, I forgot to patch yesterday |
| 09:23.06 | zenzio | Dajova: already? |
| 09:23.15 | Dajova | yeap, im in |
| 09:24.31 | nevcairiel | haste: its not like patching tkaes time these days |
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| 09:29.38 | haste | takes aeons! |
| 09:30.12 | mikma | lols |
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| 09:45.51 | Fisker | hey haste |
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| 09:57.16 | haste | hey Fisker |
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| 09:59.07 | jnwhiteh | I super <3 playing in the EU |
| 09:59.13 | jnwhiteh | servers already up :P |
| 09:59.55 | ZorbaBeta | US servers have been up for, what, 12 hours? |
| 10:00.04 | Kalroth | Didnt you know? US servers are the EU beta servers, so when the patch arrives in EU, it's already bugfixed and works! |
| 10:00.18 | jnwhiteh | ours didn't go down until this morning =) |
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| 10:02.24 | nevcairiel | Our also went up before the announced end of the maint |
| 10:02.34 | nevcairiel | unlike US that had like half a day extra |
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| 10:04.50 | airtonix | Fisker, explain |
| 10:05.02 | airtonix | Fisker, signatures suck |
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| 10:14.11 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: whats our spec? =) |
| 10:14.35 | nevcairiel | didnt change much really |
| 10:14.54 | jnwhiteh | what did you go into off-reso? |
| 10:15.01 | jnwhiteh | still Furor? |
| 10:15.11 | nevcairiel | i'm 2/0/34 right now, skipped the extra mana as its kinda not needed right now |
| 10:15.16 | jnwhiteh | a okay |
| 10:15.23 | nevcairiel | got the haste proc as it works with regrowth now |
| 10:15.46 | nevcairiel | also skipped malfurion's gift, as the free cast only saves mana, nothing i need right now |
| 10:16.25 | nevcairiel | then skipped all the non-healing talents like perseverance and fury of stormrage and nature's ward, and thats it |
| 10:18.46 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 10:19.29 | airtonix | k |
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| 10:26.30 | jnwhiteh | ah damnit, i made resto my secondary spec |
| 10:26.32 | jnwhiteh | blarg. |
| 10:26.46 | Zasurus | That will cost you a gold or two ;- |
| 10:26.47 | Zasurus | ) |
| 10:26.48 | nevcairiel | does that really matter? |
| 10:27.04 | jnwhiteh | nah |
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| 10:31.50 | Xyphoid | new deadmines is leaving me giggling so bad |
| 10:32.00 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: actualy yes.. my hotbars would have needed to be redone :P |
| 10:32.11 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 10:32.12 | nevcairiel | right |
| 10:32.19 | Zasurus | jnwhiteh yer I did the same :( |
| 10:32.55 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I assume you put the 2 in balance into crit? |
| 10:33.05 | nevcairiel | no, haste proc |
| 10:33.11 | nevcairiel | nature's grace |
| 10:33.16 | jnwhiteh | oh gotcha. |
| 10:33.16 | nevcairiel | wanted to try that talent |
| 10:33.21 | jnwhiteh | why not 3? |
| 10:34.07 | jnwhiteh | nice to be able to force the haste to |
| 10:34.14 | nevcairiel | didnt have 3 :P |
| 10:34.17 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:34.58 | jnwhiteh | what did i mess up then? |
| 10:34.58 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8617e5d071a9f19be0188637e27b2ec3.png |
| 10:34.59 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 10:35.18 | nevcairiel | no heart of the wild at all, are you crazy :D |
| 10:35.29 | nevcairiel | 6% intellect! |
| 10:35.31 | jnwhiteh | yes :P |
| 10:35.46 | nevcairiel | thats spell power, crit, regen, mana, what else! |
| 10:35.53 | nevcairiel | int > * :) |
| 10:36.01 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 10:36.03 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 10:37.20 | jnwhiteh | ah if I take blessing of the grove, I only have two left. |
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| 10:56.59 | Jamash | anyone know if there are guides to mining nodes for the new world? |
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| 10:59.30 | augustl | So silent. They're all playing WoW. |
| 11:00.00 | zenzio | Jamash: I think it's basically the same procedure as before; find a node and mine it |
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| 11:01.45 | bleeter | zenzio: you mean... play... like there are no addons? TEH HORROR! |
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| 11:02.12 | bleeter | tekkub: your hostmask needs to be longer |
| 11:02.16 | zenzio | bleeter: don't disrupt my super-clever play on words! |
| 11:13.35 | augustl | I love that the character name "Deathwig" wasn't taken |
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| 11:13.45 | zenzio | :-o |
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| 11:18.32 | zenzio | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1660527501/working-as-a-moderator-for-a-computer-help-chat |
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| 11:26.00 | airtonix | “It’s a wireless printer! Why would it be plugged in? I want to speak to your manager!” |
| 11:26.19 | foxlit | why indeed. |
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| 11:32.03 | ZorbaBeta | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1563732429/i-was-working-late-at-night-to-get-a-website-i hah. |
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| 11:35.36 | airtonix | yes |
| 11:35.39 | airtonix | old |
| 11:35.52 | airtonix | i'm sure it's all old |
| 11:36.06 | airtonix | and very frustratingly depressing |
| 11:36.26 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 11:36.31 | airtonix | thanks to that site i now assert that all retarded staff use windows |
| 11:37.13 | A-KO | huh? |
| 11:37.18 | zenzio | actually, clientsfromhell have had a number of stories including Macs |
| 11:37.18 | A-KO | what? |
| 11:37.34 | airtonix | :) |
| 11:37.42 | A-KO | Windows unfortunately isn't the cause of their retardation though :P They're just retarded, no matter the OS they use. |
| 11:37.46 | A-KO | they just happen to use it :P |
| 11:37.56 | airtonix | but they gravitate towards it |
| 11:38.01 | A-KO | nah |
| 11:38.04 | airtonix | yeah |
| 11:38.41 | A-KO | they use it because that's what their computers come with or that's what "insert friend that knows computers" mentions to them to use. Or they use Office. They'd use anything else if it was widespread in the marketplace and allowed them to do <insert office stuff here> |
| 11:38.42 | A-KO | brb |
| 11:38.53 | airtonix | thats what i mean |
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| 11:41.13 | A-KO | The really retarded ones are linux junkes who think they're invulnerable, yet either don't restart their systems or services when they do updates (some distros have gotten better at that over the years, but still not quite where it needs to be) :P |
| 11:42.20 | A-KO | so $library gets a security update and $application uses said $library, but $user doesn't restart application after updating (or in some cases the whole system) due to precious $uptime :P |
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| 11:42.49 | nevcairiel | precious uptime is even more stupid when dealing with kernel upgrades |
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| 11:43.11 | A-KO | You can do kernel upgrades w/o rebooting but IMO setting all of that up isn't worth much :P |
| 11:43.24 | nevcairiel | "i have 600 days of uptime!" - "let me lookup which exploit was active back then.." |
| 11:43.25 | A-KO | takes < 30-60 seconds to boot most machines |
| 11:43.37 | nevcairiel | the without-reboot still reboots the system, just not the hardware |
| 11:43.51 | nevcairiel | saves a few seconds maybe |
| 11:43.57 | A-KO | and if whatever service yo're hosting can't be down for 30-60 seconds for a reboot (maybe up to 90), then you're doing it wrong if you rely on one system :) |
| 11:44.05 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 11:44.24 | nevcairiel | how the hell do you get to southern barrens from the north |
| 11:44.30 | A-KO | fly? |
| 11:44.54 | nevcairiel | cant fly until in 2 weeks |
| 11:45.03 | A-KO | yeah I don't think you're supposed to otherwise |
| 11:45.07 | A-KO | swim maybe |
| 11:45.13 | foxlit | gryphon. |
| 11:45.33 | A-KO | southern barrens is mostly alliance as far as I can tell |
| 11:45.40 | A-KO | actually |
| 11:45.41 | nevcairiel | the link to mulgore is there |
| 11:45.46 | A-KO | there might be some level 30 quests down there |
| 11:45.54 | A-KO | so myabe there's something that phases in |
| 11:45.57 | A-KO | if you do those quests or something |
| 11:46.03 | A-KO | not sure |
| 11:46.17 | A-KO | there is a horde quest hub down there I forget what level exactly though |
| 11:46.28 | nevcairiel | yeah desolation hold, has a flight point too |
| 11:46.46 | A-KO | maybe the game ports you/flies you there when you complete a certain quest chain |
| 11:46.52 | A-KO | or maybe it's roundabout |
| 11:47.03 | A-KO | game takes you to thousand needles instead |
| 11:47.05 | A-KO | do that |
| 11:47.08 | A-KO | and come up from the south |
| 11:47.28 | A-KO | honestly not really sure, didn't want to level a char in beta :P for obvious reasons. I got far enough, completed some random quests along the way. |
| 11:47.31 | A-KO | leveled to 83 |
| 11:48.26 | A-KO | think I'm going to take a paid day off for cata |
| 11:48.27 | nevcairiel | i'm alliance anyway, but i got the flight point now |
| 11:48.27 | nevcairiel | just ventured to the sea and run up the shore on the other side |
| 11:48.34 | nevcairiel | i have the week off |
| 11:48.49 | A-KO | Did you take the week off for Cata, or did it happen to fall on that week? :P |
| 11:48.58 | nevcairiel | i took the week off |
| 11:49.01 | A-KO | lol |
| 11:49.25 | A-KO | wow |
| 11:49.30 | A-KO | all the previous games of wow for $20 |
| 11:49.35 | A-KO | I should convince my buddy to buy it now |
| 11:49.45 | A-KO | he's been holding out on playing wow |
| 11:49.45 | Nobgul | how many bytes are in a kilopbyte? |
| 11:49.51 | A-KO | kilobyte? |
| 11:49.55 | Nobgul | Yer |
| 11:49.57 | A-KO | 1024 |
| 11:49.58 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.06 | Nobgul | thought so ty |
| 11:50.07 | Nobgul | err |
| 11:50.09 | nevcairiel | where did those spaces come from |
| 11:50.10 | A-KO | technically, 1000, and a kibibyte is 1024 :P |
| 11:50.13 | airtonix | there are 0 bytes in a kilopbyte |
| 11:50.15 | nevcairiel | screw kibis |
| 11:50.19 | A-KO | lol nevcairiel |
| 11:50.23 | nevcairiel | kilobyte = 1024 |
| 11:50.31 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 11:50.38 | nevcairiel | it worked for what, 40 years or so |
| 11:50.46 | nevcairiel | and then some moron starts introducing kibis |
| 11:50.48 | Nobgul | Ok thanks lol. I thought so but my brain hurts to much to think =P |
| 11:50.54 | A-KO | there are purists out there :P |
| 11:51.05 | A-KO | there are 1048576 bytes in a Megabyte :P |
| 11:52.01 | nevcairiel | indeed there are. |
| 11:52.09 | zenzio | when they come up with names like "kibi", "mibi" etc. then they don't deserve to be taken seriously |
| 11:52.42 | nevcairiel | i suddenly could go for a kiwifruit |
| 11:53.08 | A-KO | eh I can kind of understand their reasoning, and kind of not. Wording evolves and changes. The "foot" has changed who knows how many times depending on what context it was used. Our use of kilo/mega/giga/etc is no different than that. |
| 11:53.18 | foxlit | oh... damn. |
| 11:53.26 | foxlit | Not again -- [flyable] in Azeroth without the skill :/ |
| 11:53.32 | A-KO | standard human history at work, nothing new :P |
| 11:53.35 | A-KO | ouch foxlit |
| 11:53.44 | A-KO | foxlit: I was honestly really hoping we could at least *ride* our flying mounts |
| 11:53.54 | A-KO | I guess they never cared 'cause they were aiming for universal flying everywhere |
| 11:53.56 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.57 | zenzio | A-KO: I can understand their reasoning too, but I don't agree that you should change something so well-established |
| 11:54.31 | foxlit | zenzio: curse you, imperial system? |
| 11:54.31 | A-KO | yeah zenzio, I agree, I don't think anybody gets confused. In reality, it's only the hard drive vendors that confuse everyone. That's it. |
| 11:54.48 | airtonix | cheap bastards |
| 11:55.06 | A-KO | Every other computer vendor uses base 2 to do their measurements while HD vendors use base 10 |
| 11:55.12 | zenzio | foxlit: I don't see that as the same thing. This is like saying "you know that yard? Yeah, it's now 80 cm, not 91.44" |
| 11:55.32 | nevcairiel | A-KO: well, the sizes of the discs woule be kinda weird if they changed it |
| 11:55.34 | foxlit | But clearly imperial system is well-established... in certain circles :) |
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| 11:55.47 | foxlit | And yet it'd still be nice to get rid of it :) |
| 11:56.11 | zenzio | foxlit: if they said that "kibi" and family were the "metric" measuremnts, I'd not argue with them; but they're saying basically "today your yard is a meter, and your meter is a yard" |
| 11:56.21 | A-KO | nevcairiel: they can just make the marketing changes on the box :P Unfortunately, they say "available space depends on formatting" etc...when in reality no, it's not the formatting, it's the math conversion |
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| 11:56.44 | foxlit | zenzio: problem is that "kilo-" is an SI prefix |
| 11:56.55 | foxlit | But you know that, so who cares :) |
| 11:57.03 | A-KO | So everyone THINKS they're losing space due to "formatting" |
| 11:57.09 | A-KO | which is further retarded |
| 11:57.27 | A-KO | I have, fwiw, on my drives, exactly as much space as I expect to have available if you do the math :P |
| 11:57.31 | A-KO | after formatting |
| 11:57.40 | zenzio | foxlit: in a perfect world they would've used "kilo" and family correctly from the start with computers, I won't deny that |
| 11:58.07 | tekkub | no, they put "formatted" sizes on drives too |
| 11:58.12 | tekkub | and they're still base 10 |
| 11:58.20 | tekkub | Formatted Capacity1,000,236 MB |
| 11:58.25 | A-KO | fail |
| 11:58.31 | tekkub | in reality, that's 931 GiB |
| 11:59.00 | A-KO | They should just put the GB numbers that everyone expects and knows. |
| 11:59.22 | airtonix | or put a swastika on the box |
| 11:59.29 | airtonix | and tell people to suck it up |
| 11:59.38 | A-KO | the funny thing is, my SSD doesn't even seem to be immune to that :( |
| 11:59.46 | A-KO | My SSD is "74.5GB" |
| 11:59.57 | tekkub | now that right there is pure fail |
| 12:00.04 | A-KO | yep |
| 12:00.23 | A-KO | I'm not sure if all vendors fall ot that though. |
| 12:00.33 | A-KO | like, I think a 64G or 128G SSD actually gives you 64/128G |
| 12:00.40 | A-KO | but this is the Intel 80G |
| 12:00.56 | foxlit | Hm, no achievement for the shifting sands quest line :/ |
| 12:04.16 | foxlit | bettered hilt down to 8k, too |
| 12:07.39 | Nobgul | >_< they are going for 1k on my server |
| 12:07.53 | nevcairiel | A-KO: my 256gb ssd gives me 238,47 gb |
| 12:08.21 | foxlit | "... current market value of your over-the-cap Justice:" |
| 12:08.39 | Zasurus | Does anyone know if the BETA is back up? Or is it gone for good now? (I need to fly in new zones to map them and you can't do that in live) :( |
| 12:09.32 | nevcairiel | its gone for good |
| 12:10.19 | foxlit | <3 Dwarven distrct atm |
| 12:10.34 | foxlit | It'll be more annoying once people move in, but it's awesome now. |
| 12:10.52 | nevcairiel | the second AH? |
| 12:11.03 | foxlit | the second everything |
| 12:11.12 | foxlit | And unlike Trade, doors are actually big enough for a night elf on a mount |
| 12:11.25 | nevcairiel | which is suprising |
| 12:11.32 | nevcairiel | as dwarves are smaller then humans |
| 12:14.29 | foxlit | Contemplating what to do with professions for cata |
| 12:14.41 | foxlit | Current Leatherworking/Enchanting mix is a bit meh :( |
| 12:15.11 | nevcairiel | i'll remin alch/herb |
| 12:15.17 | nevcairiel | remain |
| 12:50.36 | Fisker | SSD's have some spare area for trim and other GC functionality i believe |
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| 13:02.24 | foxlit | There's a reputation buff given by pilgrim's bounty? |
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| 13:03.38 | Nobgul | Yer |
| 13:03.46 | foxlit | who/what/where/how? :) |
| 13:05.30 | Nobgul | I thought there was last year. |
| 13:06.11 | Nobgul | Looking to see if i can has the infos |
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| 13:07.07 | Nobgul | guess not |
| 13:07.44 | Nobgul | http://www.wowhead.com/event=404 |
| 13:09.37 | foxlit | Comments suggest there still is, I just can't tell what you get it from |
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| 13:11.21 | foxlit | spirit of sharing |
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| 13:13.49 | Nobgul | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=61849 |
| 13:14.00 | Nobgul | Seems from the food. |
| 13:14.16 | foxlit | Yep, found it in gossip text by now :) |
| 13:14.43 | Nobgul | You get this buff after getting 5 stacks of each food at a Bountiful Table. |
| 13:14.44 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 13:17.37 | foxlit | Hah, there's a flight path down Teldrassil. |
| 13:17.40 | foxlit | That's awesome |
| 13:18.36 | bleeter | foxlit: nubs are gunna get fat from not walking anywhere anymore |
| 13:18.50 | foxlit | The fun part is that the flight paths are next to the teleporters |
| 13:19.00 | bleeter | I'm surprised the Surgeon General hasn't issues a warning against Blizz |
| 13:19.02 | foxlit | So you're actually wasting about three minutes by taking the scenic gryphon route |
| 13:19.14 | bleeter | lol |
| 13:19.40 | krka | but the scenery is pretty nice the first time at least |
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| 13:19.47 | Nobgul | Flight paths only for the Alliance though. |
| 13:20.51 | foxlit | krka: it's a giant tree. I could be more impressed :0 |
| 13:21.00 | foxlit | glares at the Shift key. |
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| 13:21.55 | krka | it atleast gives you an idea of huge that tree is |
| 13:22.06 | krka | i didn't really think much about its height before cataclysm |
| 13:22.12 | krka | +how |
| 13:24.41 | foxlit | I thought having other trees grow inside this tree gave the general idea :) |
| 13:25.32 | krka | Xzibit to Malfurion: I heard you liked trees, so i put a bunch of trees in your tree! |
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| 13:27.19 | bleeter | it pleases me that Deeprun Tram still runs East West instead of North South |
| 13:27.20 | airtonix | :( |
| 13:27.48 | foxlit | Your compass is just malfunctioning |
| 13:27.55 | airtonix | yes because making sense is a priority for blizzard |
| 13:28.20 | foxlit | They dug too deep, clearly this is just old gods meddling with your sense of direction inside the tram :P |
| 13:29.17 | cbreak_work | if they dug too deep |
| 13:29.24 | cbreak_work | it would run south north instead of north south |
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| 13:31.21 | krka | would be fun if deathwing blew a hole in the mountains above the tram so you could fly into the tram from above |
| 13:31.55 | Elkano | doesn't the tram travel underwater? ;) |
| 13:32.03 | cbreak_work | under... which water? |
| 13:32.08 | cbreak_work | loch modan? |
| 13:32.09 | cbreak_work | that's gone. |
| 13:32.23 | smcn | i've always maintained that the tram itself doesn't move, it simply moves azeroth around it. |
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| 13:33.05 | Elkano | well, iirc the tram was initialy planned to connect to Darnassus, wasn't it? most likely that's the reason it has the water part |
| 13:33.17 | foxlit | water makes sense now |
| 13:33.23 | foxlit | look at the new world map :P |
| 13:34.13 | smcn | why is it out of the realm of possibility that they just built a giant aquarium around it? |
| 13:34.54 | Elkano | who would do something stupid like that besides gnomes? |
| 13:34.57 | krka | yeah, gnomes are crazy |
| 13:35.07 | airtonix | it actaully travels out to sea |
| 13:35.25 | krka | but it goes in a straight line! |
| 13:35.42 | cbreak_work | the tram inside ulduar is worse |
| 13:35.44 | airtonix | you assume it starts at the gate of ironforge |
| 13:35.44 | Jamash | it travels through the abyssal maw, duh |
| 13:35.58 | cbreak_work | there's no way that thing has space inside ulduar |
| 13:36.17 | airtonix | um ? |
| 13:36.20 | airtonix | yes? |
| 13:36.27 | smcn | see above, the tram itself doesn't move at all. the entirety of the structure is a space/time manipulation device. the fact that there is a train car that moves inside the device is just for show. |
| 13:36.36 | airtonix | because the otuside world of wow is to scale right ? |
| 13:37.30 | smcn | in other words, a wizard did it |
| 13:37.35 | Jamash | no |
| 13:37.52 | Jamash | an engineer did it |
| 13:37.59 | smcn | mages can be engineers |
| 13:38.06 | airtonix | no you mum did it |
| 13:38.19 | smcn | boomshakalaka |
| 13:38.51 | Jamash | no fisker did it |
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| 14:02.36 | Shirik | finally... |
| 14:02.51 | Shirik | Sometimes I want to shoot Wikipedia bureaucracy in the head |
| 14:10.04 | smcn | Shirik: wikipedia is like a sausage to me. i love it, but i never, ever want to know how it's made. |
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| 14:10.34 | Computerpunk_ | Anyone got FrameXML diff? 4.0.3 to 4.0.3a? |
| 14:10.53 | harl | [wuff!] |
| 14:12.14 | Computerpunk_ | Thanks in advance. :D |
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| 14:21.37 | Napoleone | time to rediscover ;P |
| 14:23.49 | Ackis | lulz smcn likes sausage! |
| 14:24.39 | Napoleone | wow 5 fp in decolace lol |
| 14:24.40 | smcn | Ackis: there's nothing like shoving a huge sausage into my mouth |
| 14:25.01 | smcn | sometimes i like to tease the tip with my tongue a bit before biting down |
| 14:25.08 | Ackis | wait biting down? |
| 14:25.13 | Ackis | you had me going til you said that |
| 14:26.28 | airtonix | balls are touching |
| 14:27.46 | Nobgul | smcn, 0_O! |
| 14:35.30 | dardack | so um plants vs zombies, we can't keep playing after the quest now? |
| 14:35.46 | smcn | assuming it's a bug |
| 14:35.56 | smcn | an aphid |
| 14:35.58 | smcn | that ate all the plants |
| 14:36.19 | smcn | that's an old bit |
| 14:37.58 | nevcairiel | rumor is it might come back as an daily the day after |
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| 14:45.10 | dardack | it's not |
| 14:45.12 | dardack | at least not yet |
| 14:45.18 | dardack | i completed last nite |
| 14:45.21 | dardack | around 11pm server |
| 14:45.33 | dardack | i wanted to have fun and do the endless waves |
| 14:46.01 | smcn | is it just me or does it seem harder than "real" PvZ |
| 14:46.08 | smcn | maybe i just haven't played pvz in awhile |
| 14:46.14 | dardack | it's easy |
| 14:46.20 | dardack | just do 10 peaceblooms |
| 14:46.22 | smcn | but the zombies seem to come much faster in the quest |
| 14:46.38 | smcn | yeah i've tried doing the same setup i do in pvz |
| 14:46.39 | dardack | never played the original |
| 14:46.49 | smcn | but at some point they just seem to come too fast |
| 14:47.01 | dardack | the first time i did 10 peace blooms instead of 5 i blew through it all |
| 14:47.05 | smcn | i just cleared the second to last before server restart |
| 14:47.21 | dardack | walls |
| 14:47.31 | dardack | 2 rows dps 1 row frost |
| 14:47.33 | dardack | walls |
| 14:47.45 | dardack | anyways |
| 14:47.51 | dardack | i wanted to do endless, sux they took that out |
| 14:48.04 | smcn | i doubt they took it out, probably just a bug |
| 14:48.08 | Legorol | I wonder what's in OldWorld.mpq, and whether it's obsolete now.. it's almost 2 Gb of data. |
| 14:48.09 | Nobgul | So where is this at so i can go play? |
| 14:48.09 | nevcairiel | 2 rows sunflowers, 2 rows tentacles, blast everything else with pumpkins |
| 14:48.11 | nevcairiel | works :p |
| 14:48.12 | Legorol | I hope a patch will remove that. |
| 14:48.19 | smcn | Nobgul: hillsbrad |
| 14:48.32 | Nobgul | Ok ty. I saw a video on it but never payed attention to where it was |
| 14:48.40 | nevcairiel | Legorol: just delete your cache, it wont come back |
| 14:49.04 | Legorol | nevcairiel: this is not a cache file |
| 14:49.44 | Nobgul | It's in data |
| 14:49.46 | Legorol | nevcairiel: also, patch-base-13329.MPQ is only 5 Mb atm, whereas patch-base-13287.MPQ is 1 Gb. I seriously doubt that that 1 Gb data is available elsewhere |
| 14:49.49 | smcn | Nobgul: it's in the north-west, brazie's farm |
| 14:49.56 | dardack | near the dalaran crater |
| 14:50.05 | Nobgul | Legorol: I did a fresh wow install last night on my laptop and i have the same file |
| 14:50.09 | nevcairiel | oh that file. Since you dont know whats in there, it might as well be valid data still needed for the old world, that is, the classic zones :P |
| 14:50.14 | Nobgul | smcn: Sweet thanks loading wow now. |
| 14:50.18 | dardack | yea me too nobgul fresh install still have it |
| 14:50.20 | Legorol | nevcairiel: true |
| 14:50.30 | Legorol | nevcairiel: as for the cache files, at least last week they all came back when i deleted them |
| 14:50.37 | Legorol | might have changed with 4.0.3a |
| 14:50.44 | nevcairiel | i still had some oldworld cache files |
| 14:50.47 | nevcairiel | they went away |
| 14:50.51 | nevcairiel | or rather, didnt come back |
| 14:51.17 | dardack | well guess i'll quest since no plants vs zombies endless waves |
| 14:51.21 | dardack | that really really sux |
| 14:51.22 | Nobgul | I have had to redo all my mount macro's for my druid. Blizzard wont let me mount while shapshifted QQ |
| 14:51.43 | Nobgul | dardack: You get a pet from the plant thing right |
| 14:51.48 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:51.50 | dardack | yea |
| 14:51.55 | nevcairiel | the singing sunflower |
| 14:51.56 | nevcairiel | so cute |
| 14:52.04 | nevcairiel | and it sings :P |
| 14:52.11 | Nobgul | Nice |
| 14:52.24 | Nobgul | My fav pet is my mini tree |
| 14:52.28 | dardack | feels wierd to loose over 200 achievement points |
| 14:52.36 | dardack | and not have any quests done in EK/Kal but having loremaster |
| 14:52.52 | Nobgul | I never went for loremaster |
| 14:53.00 | zenzio | know what else is weird? Having two "Loremasters Colors", or whatever the tabard is called |
| 14:53.20 | Nobgul | Im not even remotly close. I only did the quests on my druid to get high enough to queue in the df. then only a few quests for gear. I think total less then 100 quests done. |
| 14:53.55 | zenzio | I mean two Loremaster tabards on the same character |
| 14:54.01 | dardack | ok is there no ach for quests in elwyn forest? |
| 14:54.45 | nevcairiel | no the starter zones all dont have one |
| 14:54.59 | dardack | ahh kk |
| 14:55.03 | dardack | heading to westfall then |
| 14:55.10 | dardack | ok any new rep i can get? |
| 14:55.20 | nevcairiel | might find some gilneas quests |
| 14:55.32 | nevcairiel | worgen rep |
| 14:55.45 | nevcairiel | other then that, new factions are in new zones |
| 14:56.16 | Legorol | nevcairiel: there isa Gilneas Tabard you can buy and wear.. so you can already get rep |
| 14:56.42 | dardack | where legorol |
| 14:56.43 | zenzio | do they work? |
| 14:56.47 | Nobgul | how much exp from doing theis plant thing? |
| 14:56.51 | Legorol | i don't know yet, but i did buy one |
| 14:56.51 | dardack | and i thought i didn't have to run back to turn quests in how do i do that? |
| 14:57.05 | Legorol | at least I do have Gilneas rep listed, currently 229/3000 |
| 14:57.08 | Legorol | and i'm wearing the tabard |
| 14:57.11 | Legorol | so we shall find out |
| 14:58.20 | Nobgul | Right next to the portal |
| 14:58.21 | Nobgul | ? |
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| 14:58.42 | Nobgul | I am horiable with wow directions |
| 14:58.50 | Nobgul | If i dont have tom tom im done for =P |
| 14:59.16 | Elkano | well, iirc rputation from tabrads was broken, no idea if it's fixed, yet |
| 15:00.00 | Ackis | is it broken intentionally? |
| 15:00.19 | Nobgul | Knowing blizzard prob |
| 15:02.57 | nevcairiel | its broken in northrend dungeons |
| 15:03.05 | nevcairiel | its on the list for a hotfix, i read in some blue |
| 15:03.36 | jnwhiteh | they need to fix moonfire and the holy words |
| 15:03.40 | jnwhiteh | can't believe that shit is still broken |
| 15:03.50 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with moonfire? |
| 15:03.51 | Nobgul | Whats wrong with moonfire |
| 15:03.54 | Nobgul | I like it lol |
| 15:04.01 | jnwhiteh | when it morphs to sunfire |
| 15:04.06 | jnwhiteh | you cannot cast it except via actionbar |
| 15:04.06 | jnwhiteh | for one. |
| 15:04.15 | Ketho | and holy words? saw nothing wrong with it .. |
| 15:04.18 | smcn | ouch |
| 15:04.19 | jnwhiteh | same exact issue |
| 15:04.28 | jnwhiteh | two of the three will be uncastable by name or id |
| 15:04.33 | jnwhiteh | they only work on action bars |
| 15:04.38 | jnwhiteh | make a macro /cast Moonfire |
| 15:04.41 | jnwhiteh | when it morphs, you cannot cast it. |
| 15:04.42 | Nobgul | what do you mean except via action bar how else would you cast it? |
| 15:04.47 | jnwhiteh | secure action buttons |
| 15:04.49 | jnwhiteh | by name |
| 15:04.50 | jnwhiteh | by id |
| 15:04.51 | jnwhiteh | anything |
| 15:04.51 | Nobgul | Because its starfire.. |
| 15:04.52 | jnwhiteh | Clique |
| 15:04.53 | jnwhiteh | macros |
| 15:04.56 | jnwhiteh | No,its Sunfire |
| 15:05.00 | Nobgul | yer well lol |
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| 15:05.02 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 15:05.03 | jnwhiteh | try that |
| 15:05.05 | jnwhiteh | it still wont' work mate |
| 15:05.07 | Nobgul | My macro's work |
| 15:05.32 | jnwhiteh | and what are they? |
| 15:05.49 | Nobgul | Just a simple /cast |
| 15:05.49 | jnwhiteh | its exactly the same issue that was with Lifebloom and Frost trap previously |
| 15:05.56 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 15:06.17 | Nobgul | Ill check it now. Well if i can get into a eclipse hitting things 60 levels below me |
| 15:07.04 | Nobgul | Ill have to wait to check on a dummy |
| 15:07.49 | jnwhiteh | I have not tested since yesterday's patch |
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| 15:07.56 | jnwhiteh | but people are still definitely reporting the Holy Word issue |
| 15:08.02 | jnwhiteh | which is the same issue, its just on a per-spell basis. |
| 15:08.43 | Ackis | casts holy word in his pants. |
| 15:10.04 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: they are not doing the mid-week sale thing. this does not bode well for my savings. |
| 15:13.05 | dardack | omg goretesk drop quest items |
| 15:14.31 | Nobgul | lol this is fun |
| 15:17.46 | dardack | kinda and kinda not, i hate questing |
| 15:17.49 | dardack | and to redo all these |
| 15:17.51 | dardack | sux major |
| 15:18.31 | mitch0 | uhm, isn't cata available as digital download? |
| 15:18.44 | Humbedooh | sure it is |
| 15:18.51 | mitch0 | can't find it on eu.battle.net |
| 15:19.03 | Humbedooh | because it's not released yet? :\ |
| 15:19.20 | mitch0 | ok, anyone knows the price? |
| 15:19.32 | Humbedooh | hm ye, a sec |
| 15:19.47 | Humbedooh | 34.99 € |
| 15:19.51 | Humbedooh | 34.99 euro |
| 15:20.04 | mitch0 | thanks |
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| 15:21.53 | dardack | or 39.99 dollars |
| 15:22.02 | Legorol | Is there any way whatsoever to find out which tabards I have already equipped for the purposes of achievement? |
| 15:22.02 | Legorol | Or I have to go through all my tabards again to see which ones I've done already |
| 15:22.02 | smcn | Legorol: the latter I believe. I think Collectinator keeps track of it though |
| 15:22.02 | Legorol | I doubt it can work retroactively though |
| 15:22.02 | smcn | of course |
| 15:22.02 | Legorol | mm, my tabard counter is 6 higher than the number of tabards i remember equipping |
| 15:22.02 | Legorol | this will be tricky to debug |
| 15:22.02 | smcn | tricky to debug your memory? ;) |
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| 15:27.38 | Nobgul | Be back in a bit need foooood |
| 15:28.00 | dardack | nice alliance rep from these quests |
| 15:28.02 | dardack | gives worgen rep |
| 15:28.07 | dardack | woot |
| 15:28.42 | smcn | would be funny if getting exalted with gilneas let you learn running wild |
| 15:29.47 | dardack | heh |
| 15:30.19 | Nobgul | lol |
| 15:30.49 | Nobgul | So anyone see the blue post on the mage portals. The gm said "Enjoy it while it lasts" |
| 15:31.23 | nevcairiel | that wasnt a blue post *on* mage portals |
| 15:31.57 | nevcairiel | he was just commenting how mages should enjoy the demand for their portals now |
| 15:32.23 | nevcairiel | as with cata, you dont need to travel to other citys |
| 15:32.23 | dardack | does move anything move the complete quest thing for chains yet? |
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| 15:33.35 | Nobgul | nevcairiel: i must have read it wrong =P |
| 15:34.42 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/slashslash.jpg |
| 15:37.52 | Ackis | hehe the vet clinic remembers my cat :) |
| 15:39.33 | zenzelezz | http://imc1.piccsy.com/28781-859f70-600-600.jpg |
| 15:45.10 | dardack | can anyone confirm deathwing does his thing once per hour? |
| 15:45.24 | zenzelezz | that should not sound dirty... |
| 15:46.40 | Thunder_Child | yes it should |
| 15:47.07 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/how_pugs_are_made.jpg |
| 15:47.38 | zenzelezz | mikma: lol |
| 15:51.27 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1_harry_potter.jpg |
| 15:54.10 | Shirik | smcn: Oh it's fun |
| 15:54.13 | Shirik | Let me tell you |
| 15:54.29 | Shirik | Also, I'm now at the airport |
| 15:54.35 | Shirik | I have a flight at 1:45 |
| 15:54.40 | dardack | ahh the complete quest shows up in my achievement tracker |
| 15:54.47 | dardack | must be certain line of quests |
| 15:54.49 | Shirik | I left way early because I thought security was going to be a mess, and it took me 5 minutes to get through |
| 15:55.11 | krka | bored at work mikma? |
| 15:56.25 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: flying home for the holiday? |
| 15:56.28 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:56.45 | krka | looking forward to that hot extra pat down? |
| 15:57.00 | Shirik | I'm already through security :P |
| 15:57.07 | mikma | krka: i'm at home, i already did my 10h day at work |
| 15:57.08 | Shirik | they did pat down my laptop though |
| 15:57.17 | sylvanaar_work | Shirik: didn't get chosen |
| 15:57.23 | Arrowmaster | why would they pat down a laptop? |
| 15:57.23 | Shirik | Shirik never gets chosen |
| 15:57.42 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: They tested it for explosives I assume |
| 15:57.55 | Arrowmaster | ah maybe youll get lucky on the way back then Shirik and get your balls groped |
| 15:58.14 | Shirik | FFS |
| 15:58.20 | Shirik | I just locked myself out of my WoW account AGAIN |
| 15:58.28 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 15:58.41 | Shirik | I don't think they like me logging in from the airport |
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| 15:59.34 | Shirik | also the DNS server at this airport is a POS |
| 16:00.09 | Thunder_Child | dont use the airport dns |
| 16:01.37 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck, i just upgraded pidgin and got this error again on startup even though its supposed to be fixed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=603911 |
| 16:01.55 | Shirik | what?! Open source software having poor quality practices?! UNPOSSIBLE |
| 16:02.04 | Shirik | (obvious solution: reopen it?) |
| 16:02.18 | cbreak_work | just don't hold it that way. |
| 16:02.19 | nevcairiel | Or stop using the worst messaging service on the planet |
| 16:02.29 | Arrowmaster | i dont actually use it |
| 16:02.36 | Arrowmaster | i just idle on it just incase |
| 16:02.45 | nevcairiel | connecting is using |
| 16:03.21 | Shirik | nevcairiel: He's not using MSN |
| 16:03.32 | Shirik | or is he |
| 16:03.34 | Shirik | I didn't click the link |
| 16:03.42 | nevcairiel | the ticket is about msn |
| 16:03.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:04.03 | Arrowmaster | oh hey its the 24th, i need to renew my domains before they expire today |
| 16:04.36 | jnwhiteh | anyone have a list of coordinates of te new flight pats? |
| 16:05.03 | jnwhiteh | or hell, a wowhead map showing them? |
| 16:05.16 | nevcairiel | they are drawn on the world maps |
| 16:05.19 | Shirik | I can't believe I locked myself out of my account twice in 7 days |
| 16:05.23 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: ah, okay |
| 16:05.33 | jnwhiteh | just a bit hard to see, got it. |
| 16:05.34 | Arrowmaster | ah damnit |
| 16:05.53 | Arrowmaster | on my domain renewal one of the boxes i have to check to continue says "I agree not to transfer these domains to another registrar for 60 days." |
| 16:06.13 | Shirik | huh |
| 16:06.14 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 16:06.17 | cbreak_work | is that a problem? |
| 16:06.18 | Shirik | sounds like you have a crappy company :) |
| 16:06.26 | Arrowmaster | hey its a cheap company |
| 16:06.33 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Shirik |
| 16:06.37 | Shirik | I use dyndns |
| 16:06.38 | sylvanaar_work | thats in exchange for free domain registration |
| 16:06.38 | cbreak_work | just make a timer that reminds you to do it in 60 days |
| 16:06.38 | nevcairiel | when you plan to transfer it, maybe renewing them with that company right now isnt the best choice anyway |
| 16:06.38 | Shirik | love them |
| 16:06.41 | Arrowmaster | although they want to charge me $7 a year per domain for private registration |
| 16:06.50 | Shirik | $7 is expensive? |
| 16:07.00 | Arrowmaster | per year per domain? yes |
| 16:07.01 | cbreak_work | I pay 5 times as much I think |
| 16:07.08 | Shirik | I pay $20 I think |
| 16:07.11 | Shirik | I forget |
| 16:07.12 | Arrowmaster | gandi.net offers it for free |
| 16:07.18 | Arrowmaster | which im going to transfer to |
| 16:07.22 | Shirik | no $40 |
| 16:07.34 | Arrowmaster | you guys are getting ripped off |
| 16:07.39 | sylvanaar_work | $40 for registration, or just hosting |
| 16:07.51 | Shirik | Private registration |
| 16:07.57 | sylvanaar_work | s/just/with/ |
| 16:08.03 | cbreak_work | I have a .net, costs I think 30 swiss francs per year |
| 16:08.05 | Shirik | no hosting it's my own server |
| 16:08.06 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: transfer to gandi.net |
| 16:08.07 | Shirik | no |
| 16:08.08 | cbreak_work | just for the domain name |
| 16:08.12 | Shirik | gandi.net sounds like an awful company |
| 16:08.16 | Shirik | in the 5 minutes you've told me about it |
| 16:08.18 | jnwhiteh | they're great |
| 16:08.20 | Arrowmaster | look at the site |
| 16:08.26 | jnwhiteh | I've never had an issue with them |
| 16:08.32 | Shirik | never had an issue with dyndns :) |
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| 16:08.43 | Arrowmaster | wait you actually pay dyndns? |
| 16:08.45 | sylvanaar_work | i have used dyndns for 10 years |
| 16:08.48 | cbreak_work | dyndns' free subdomains are nice |
| 16:09.19 | cbreak_work | (to contact my home network via the router that supports it) |
| 16:09.33 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: seems like horde flight paths are listed as well, is that right? |
| 16:09.37 | Shirik | yes I pay dyndns |
| 16:09.48 | Arrowmaster | ok i just paid $166.40 to renew a .com and a .net domain for 10 years each |
| 16:09.50 | Shirik | It's not a dynamic dns service I'm using of theirs |
| 16:09.55 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: they are drawn directly on the map tiles, so yes, alliance in blue, horde in red, neutral in yellow |
| 16:10.02 | jnwhiteh | k tanks. |
| 16:10.37 | Shirik | whoops |
| 16:10.42 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: The price I quoted you was for 2 domains |
| 16:10.52 | Arrowmaster | thats a little better |
| 16:10.57 | Shirik | it's $15 for the domain and $10 addl for the private registration |
| 16:11.21 | Arrowmaster | its $9 + $8 i think for my current registar |
| 16:11.43 | Shirik | also shiibot.com expires on Dec 16 |
| 16:11.46 | Arrowmaster | i want to transfer to gandi.net though since they offer free private registration and free dns hosting |
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| 16:12.01 | nevcairiel | is there soem debugging addon that shows me per-function timing information, like Expo did back in the day? I basically want to know which of my functions gets called how often, and how long they take to execute |
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| 16:12.03 | Shirik | I have no need for dns hosting |
| 16:12.15 | Arrowmaster | gandi.net also has a great policy, 'no bullshit' http://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit |
| 16:12.16 | sylvanaar_work | expo was nice |
| 16:12.20 | Shirik | my server is its own dns server and also linode provides nameservers I use as backups |
| 16:12.33 | sylvanaar_work | it probably still works |
| 16:12.59 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: yeah my domains are being hosted on a box i dont know where by a company i dont know the name of for free |
| 16:13.10 | Arrowmaster | they only offer basic cpanel crap |
| 16:13.11 | Shirik | And that's a good thing? |
| 16:13.28 | Arrowmaster | its my friends account i just tacked on two extra domains to it |
| 16:13.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont actually use the servers for anything but dns to reroute my email to google |
| 16:14.07 | Shirik | My favorite entry in my DNS server |
| 16:14.12 | Shirik | ~dns ambassador.shiibot.com |
| 16:14.32 | Arrowmaster | i need to add entries to my dns for xmpp to work properly |
| 16:14.45 | Arrowmaster | im only reachable by gtalk accounts |
| 16:19.17 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: turns out, FBP-2.0 extensively used "this" |
| 16:19.21 | nevcairiel | trys with F2B |
| 16:19.51 | sylvanaar_work | yeah but i fixed it didnt i |
| 16:20.32 | sylvanaar_work | oh no that was 30 |
| 16:21.11 | Shirik | amro: ping |
| 16:21.13 | Nobgul | need a word spellcheck from someone. schmeantis.... meaning err |
| 16:21.19 | Nobgul | samantics? |
| 16:21.29 | sylvanaar_work | expo is worth porting forward to some new system |
| 16:21.30 | nevcairiel | semantics(sp?) |
| 16:21.31 | batbot | nevcairiel, semantics is correct. |
| 16:21.36 | Nobgul | ty |
| 16:22.00 | nevcairiel | dewdrop also uses this alot |
| 16:22.07 | nevcairiel | what crappy programmer wrote this crap :P |
| 16:22.27 | Arrowmaster | points at ckknight |
| 16:22.40 | ckknight | years ago |
| 16:22.43 | Computerpunk_ | Soooo. |
| 16:22.59 | Computerpunk_ | Anyone got 4.0.3 to 4.0.3a framexml diff? :< |
| 16:23.14 | Nobgul | not that i have seen |
| 16:23.32 | Computerpunk_ | Cause they messed up with lots of stuff. |
| 16:23.33 | Computerpunk_ | lol |
| 16:25.39 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: maybe i should really port expo, or write something like it, its profiler function is really useful |
| 16:25.56 | sylvanaar_work | i agree |
| 16:26.01 | nevcairiel | i never cared much for its other functions |
| 16:26.20 | nevcairiel | i found my problem though |
| 16:26.28 | nevcairiel | a place where i never wouldve looked |
| 16:26.31 | nevcairiel | thansk Expo |
| 16:26.43 | sylvanaar_work | its event profiler was inaccurate |
| 16:27.11 | Shirik | omg |
| 16:27.19 | Shirik | I'm seeing a resale economy develop on my server |
| 16:27.23 | Shirik | this is insane |
| 16:27.41 | Shirik | Someone started selling portals for "10g per portal" i.e., you can split the cost between groups |
| 16:27.51 | nicoli_s | insane = mildly interesting |
| 16:27.53 | Shirik | Then someone started selling matchmaking for "5g per port" and setting up a group |
| 16:28.00 | Shirik | and he'll go to that guy for the portal |
| 16:28.03 | Shirik | so he makes money off it |
| 16:28.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:29.11 | sylvanaar_work | people have too much time |
| 16:29.16 | Shirik | if he renamed himself expedia it would be perfect |
| 16:30.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:30.17 | Fisker | am i a tauren paladin? |
| 16:30.24 | Shirik | no you are a holy cow |
| 16:30.50 | Nobgul | Lol 6 mages in my guild last night were cornering the market. There was 1 in each major city. 5 gold per port, got bulk traffic to do 50 gold for a hour of open portals lol |
| 16:32.05 | sylvanaar_work | so they paid someone to have a portal open for 1 hour for 50g |
| 16:32.22 | Nobgul | No to make unlimited trips between major cities |
| 16:32.29 | sylvanaar_work | oh i see |
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| 16:32.45 | sylvanaar_work | an "all day pass" |
| 16:32.55 | Nobgul | Basically yea |
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| 16:33.43 | Shirik | that is a brilliant idea |
| 16:34.09 | sylvanaar_work | so |
| 16:34.13 | sylvanaar_work | how much did they make |
| 16:34.34 | sylvanaar_work | thats what I want to know |
| 16:40.19 | Fisker | haha nevcairiel |
| 16:40.21 | Fisker | you germans are nuts |
| 16:40.35 | nicoli_s | man searching for trouble shooting on a framework that changes every 8 months is hard :( |
| 16:40.37 | Nobgul | sylvanaar: I checked the gbank this morning it looks like almost 2k |
| 16:40.49 | sylvanaar_work | thats not bad |
| 16:41.12 | Nobgul | Not at all. Good money for the gbank. |
| 16:41.17 | Fisker | http://channel.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27677 <-look at this shit nevcairiel |
| 16:41.30 | nevcairiel | i saw that |
| 16:41.33 | nevcairiel | i fully support the idea |
| 16:41.49 | Fisker | you are a bad person |
| 16:42.01 | nevcairiel | why, would you hide your house |
| 16:42.22 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 16:42.27 | Nobgul | sylvanaar: Not at all, seeing as they obvioulsy kept some for them selvs. I will find out more later. |
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| 16:43.45 | sylvanaar_work | how does a person opt out of streetview |
| 16:43.56 | Shirik | Don't have a house |
| 16:43.59 | Fisker | only for germany sylvanaar |
| 16:44.12 | Fisker | germany got scared |
| 16:44.16 | nevcairiel | the privacy nuts got google to offer an opt-out |
| 16:44.16 | Nobgul | Australia has a opt-out as well |
| 16:44.26 | Fisker | after the whole "people can't internet and it's googles fault"-deal |
| 16:44.33 | Fisker | germany and australia then |
| 16:44.49 | Fisker | and who else got scared and told their mommy |
| 16:44.57 | nevcairiel | and now, people are egging the houses of those people that opted out :P |
| 16:46.50 | sylvanaar_work | i'd try to make a joke in german, but it would probably come out wrong |
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| 16:48.06 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 16:48.26 | Nobgul | crazy Amerikaner |
| 16:49.25 | Cide | hi |
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| 16:50.07 | Nobgul | 0_o |
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| 16:53.09 | Cide | grr |
| 16:53.48 | Cide | why is auto-starting stuff on linux so fucking complicated |
| 16:54.34 | Nobgul | hah |
| 16:54.40 | Nobgul | It's linux |
| 16:54.46 | Nobgul | What distro u using? |
| 16:55.34 | Fisker | linux |
| 16:55.40 | Nobgul | lul |
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| 16:59.21 | Shirik | Cide: It's not |
| 16:59.39 | Shirik | All you have to do is modify the kernel code and recompile |
| 16:59.45 | Shirik | what's so compliated about that? |
| 16:59.45 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 16:59.50 | Nobgul | lol |
| 16:59.54 | sylvanaar_work | that my line |
| 17:00.23 | sylvanaar_work | even my grandma can do it |
| 17:01.18 | Ackis | Players should no longer be disconnected from a realm when attempting to take an item out of the mail which has been marked for deletion. yay? |
| 17:02.02 | nevcairiel | that dc'ed me last week |
| 17:02.05 | nevcairiel | was annoying |
| 17:02.31 | Ackis | last night I got it a few times with bijous |
| 17:02.38 | Ackis | why would they delete bijous but not coins? |
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| 17:03.11 | Shirik | because nobody ever knew how to pronounce bijou |
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| 17:05.41 | nevcairiel | jui as in juice? |
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| 17:07.28 | Ackis | bee jew |
| 17:07.33 | Ackis | that's how I pronounced it |
| 17:07.44 | Nobgul | Me as well |
| 17:08.35 | nevcairiel | doesnt jew and jui from juice sound some what similar |
| 17:09.07 | Shirik | where did you get jui, nevcairiel? |
| 17:09.16 | Shirik | or was that just an example |
| 17:09.36 | Nobgul | nevcairiel: You have to say it with a french ascent for it to be proper =P |
| 17:09.38 | nevcairiel | its just an example, that i meant the sound of the start of juice :P |
| 17:09.42 | Shirik | also, I pronounce it "bee joe" |
| 17:09.42 | Nobgul | jui` |
| 17:09.43 | Nobgul | =P |
| 17:09.50 | Fisker | that's offensive to bee jews Ackis |
| 17:09.54 | Shirik | You know if we all spoke japanese this would be so much easier |
| 17:10.01 | Shirik | why can't we have consistent pronounciation |
| 17:10.45 | Dagmar | Because our voices are not that high and squeaky. |
| 17:10.55 | Ackis | sorry Fisker |
| 17:11.01 | Shirik | ビジョ |
| 17:11.06 | Shirik | imo |
| 17:11.21 | nevcairiel | You dont have to go to japanese to get consistent pronounciation |
| 17:11.36 | Shirik | well we have to get away from all germanic languages |
| 17:11.38 | nevcairiel | we also have western languages that work like that |
| 17:11.45 | nevcairiel | french is like that |
| 17:11.52 | Shirik | yeah but everyone hates the french |
| 17:12.07 | nevcairiel | the french, yes, the language, not so much |
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| 17:20.25 | Shirik | Why does north korea still exist? |
| 17:20.53 | Legorol | it hasn't been invaded by a bunch of Marines and Zerglings from South Korea yet |
| 17:20.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:21.01 | Legorol | the Protss are staying out of it |
| 17:21.18 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 17:21.52 | Ackis | Shirik: don't call it north korea, it's proper title is bad korea |
| 17:21.54 | Fisker | foxer, north korea is throwing nukes |
| 17:21.56 | Fisker | how do you counter? |
| 17:21.57 | Fisker | marines |
| 17:22.10 | Nobgul | ghosts. |
| 17:22.20 | Nobgul | Throw back some nuke's |
| 17:22.30 | Nobgul | See who has more =P |
| 17:22.45 | durcyn | according to sarah palin, north korea are our allies anyway |
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| 17:22.47 | Ackis | has there been a blue post about your quest totals being 0/xx for the new quest achievements? |
| 17:23.03 | Shirik | Fisker: Scan and kill |
| 17:23.10 | nevcairiel | You just havent done those quests, Ackis |
| 17:23.22 | foxlit | Shirik: EMP'ed your CC! |
| 17:23.29 | Shirik | oshi |
| 17:23.32 | Shirik | good thing I usually have like 4 |
| 17:23.37 | Ackis | nevcairiel: it's saying I've done 0/xx in many zones, yet I have loremaster |
| 17:23.39 | Shirik | I expand way too early |
| 17:23.55 | nevcairiel | Ackis: yes, with the old quests. Most of the old quests got changed, removed, whatever |
| 17:23.56 | durcyn | Ackis: you don't lose loremaster, but a lot of the quests were reset, |
| 17:23.59 | nevcairiel | You can actually re-do all of those |
| 17:24.19 | nevcairiel | They said you would keep the loremaster meta achievements |
| 17:24.25 | Ackis | so the numbers are accurate? entire zones had all their quests removed? |
| 17:24.31 | durcyn | Ackis: Yes. |
| 17:24.33 | nevcairiel | revamped, sure |
| 17:24.40 | durcyn | replaced, if you will |
| 17:24.42 | Ackis | I know they said you were keeping the meta, I just didn't think there would be that much to redo |
| 17:24.43 | durcyn | probably using new IDs |
| 17:24.46 | Shirik | ok I'm going to go get a smoothie bye |
| 17:24.50 | nevcairiel | When they changed quest chains, they reset the whole thing, so you're not missing like one quest in the middle |
| 17:24.54 | Fisker | sandy bridge is sick nevcairiel |
| 17:25.02 | Dajova | anyone here good with tags and such? |
| 17:25.06 | nevcairiel | Fisker i hope he gets better |
| 17:25.10 | durcyn | speaking of, has anyone bothered with the alliance redridge quest chains yet? |
| 17:25.21 | foxlit | tags this message: [emote]. |
| 17:25.34 | Ackis | nevcairiel: are the old quest IDs still in the system? |
| 17:25.38 | Fisker | http://bit.ly/enb5sL |
| 17:25.43 | Ackis | or did my overall stats of quests completed decrease? |
| 17:26.18 | foxlit | stats != anything |
| 17:26.27 | nevcairiel | I have the 3000 quests completed achievement, statistics pane says 2876 quests completed |
| 17:26.29 | nevcairiel | so you figure it out |
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| 17:26.47 | Nobgul | Ackis: I think they removed quests. If you already compleated them to get achivments then you keep the achiv but they took them from your total count |
| 17:27.09 | Ackis | ok nevcairiel I didn't know that (can't check in game and forgot to check last night) |
| 17:27.21 | Fisker | almost honored with bilgewater cartel :o |
| 17:27.33 | Ackis | Fisker: did I DC from #mmo-champion? |
| 17:27.46 | Fisker | looking forward to a 72 hour ban from Blizzard and a 3 hour ban from that fuckwad who trapped a lot of us inside the inn |
| 17:27.52 | Fisker | ping timeout |
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| 17:28.17 | Fisker | s/from that/for that/ |
| 17:28.33 | Dajova | ok, my question... TAG: http://www.pastey.net/143243 | CODE: http://www.pastey.net/143242 | Why does it not work? :) |
| 17:29.13 | Cide | there is a 50% risk it doesn't work because your indentation is all sorts of fucked up |
| 17:29.24 | Cide | and by all sorts I mean you indented lines 4-10 when you shouldn't have |
| 17:29.40 | Dajova | in english? xD |
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| 17:29.51 | Cide | indent your shit properly |
| 17:30.02 | nevcairiel | Fisker: the numbers are in line with what i read before, a 20% increase in performance per clock |
| 17:31.47 | Zhinjio | ~seen Tuller |
| 17:32.05 | purl | tuller <~waffles@c-69-143-52-174.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 2d 22h 45m 1s ago, saying: 'aww, I thought that was reserved for me'. |
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| 17:32.23 | Zhinjio | Cairenn: g'morning |
| 17:32.34 | Cairenn | hey Zhinjio *hug* |
| 17:32.43 | Zhinjio | *hugs* |
| 17:33.12 | Shirik | PvP = string.format("|cff%02x%02x%02xPvP|r", unpack(Green)) |
| 17:33.20 | Shirik | wtf is Green? |
| 17:33.55 | Dajova | uhm sec... fetch it |
| 17:34.02 | Dajova | *fetching |
| 17:34.30 | nevcairiel | probably an array table with the color values for green |
| 17:34.47 | nevcairiel | At least one would hope so |
| 17:34.57 | Shirik | my real question was "is that seriously a global?" |
| 17:35.11 | durcyn | the global is GREEN_FONT_COLOR_CODE |
| 17:35.26 | durcyn | or just _COLOR, depending on what you want |
| 17:35.43 | Dajova | yeah, noticed it now |
| 17:35.50 | Dajova | forgot to define it apperently... strange |
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| 17:36.07 | Dajova | thought i did it.. but wth |
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| 17:36.14 | Shirik | ........ there was a second explosion at Pike River Mine |
| 17:36.22 | Shirik | Is it seriously that complicated to follow safety practices? |
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| 17:36.56 | sylvanaar_work | its a dangerous job |
| 17:37.06 | Shirik | So is working at a nuclear power plant |
| 17:37.25 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, but there alost of the safety protocols are automatic |
| 17:37.38 | sylvanaar_work | s/ost/ot/ |
| 17:37.41 | Shirik | I'd put money on the fact that the business ignored safety protocols in the mine for money |
| 17:39.07 | Dajova | durcyn: meh, even adding the global wasn't successful :( |
| 17:39.33 | Dajova | no error, no nothing |
| 17:39.55 | olafski | blah there's some invisible window in the center of my screen which makes me unable to turn with my mouse =( |
| 17:40.09 | Jamash|zzzzzzzzz | "/framestack" |
| 17:40.29 | Jamash|zzzzzzzzz | also good morning |
| 17:41.10 | olafski | wtf! |
| 17:41.12 | olafski | that's awesome |
| 17:41.19 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:41.19 | olafski | I always used GetMouseFocus():GetName() or something |
| 17:41.21 | Jamash | isn't it? |
| 17:41.24 | nevcairiel | You just learned about framestack? :p |
| 17:41.25 | Nobgul | fstack and eventtrace <3 |
| 17:41.26 | Shirik | old news olafski |
| 17:41.36 | Shirik | like beyond old news |
| 17:41.38 | Yssaril | olafski: welcome to last year :) |
| 17:41.44 | Shirik | I mean devtools had /dtframestack in like 1.11 or so |
| 17:42.00 | Shirik | ok maybe not that early |
| 17:42.05 | Shirik | but it was a long time |
| 17:42.37 | Yssaril | when did they merge dev tools into the client that was with 3.0 i think ? |
| 17:43.01 | Arrowmaster | 3.2 maybe |
| 17:43.02 | olafski | I've never had to do anything with frames before =( |
| 17:43.04 | Shirik | I think it was the last major patch before 4.0 |
| 17:43.05 | Arrowmaster | or 3.3 |
| 17:43.30 | olafski | great I relogged to turn off Prat and now the hidden window is gone :P |
| 17:43.39 | olafski | (and it didn't return when I turned prat back on) |
| 17:43.40 | nevcairiel | so it was prat |
| 17:43.58 | nevcairiel | so what did the framestack say? |
| 17:44.00 | Jamash | ghooooooooooooost windoowwwwwwwwww |
| 17:44.38 | Jamash | hey so is zg supposed to be totally empty? |
| 17:45.50 | nevcairiel | i think the quests are soemwhat phased |
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| 17:47.12 | alestane | huggles Cairenn. |
| 17:47.31 | Cairenn | hugs alestane |
| 17:47.52 | alestane | can't huggle Lopeppeppy when she's not here. |
| 17:48.20 | alestane | My car is all legal and stuff now! |
| 17:48.27 | Jamash | it just turned 18? |
| 17:48.28 | Cairenn | gives alestane an extra hug, for peppy |
| 17:48.30 | Cairenn | yay! |
| 17:48.32 | nevcairiel | you had an illegal car before? |
| 17:48.47 | alestane | Not quite. But it hadn'tpassed its inspection yet. |
| 17:49.04 | alestane | It still had a couple of days before it was over the deadline. |
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| 17:49.15 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:49.21 | Cairenn | morning Lunessa |
| 17:49.30 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs814.snc4/69487_440439966996_275733681996_5802940_1034910_n.jpg |
| 17:49.46 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 17:49.56 | alestane | Morning, Lunessa. I was just saying my car is legal and everything now. |
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| 17:50.13 | Lunessa | woot! |
| 17:50.36 | Cairenn | so I'm guessing the sensors finally got enough data, and were happy? |
| 17:51.00 | alestane | I put about 150 miles on it between the first inspection attempt on Monday and this morning. |
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| 17:52.19 | alestane | And also painted about 60% of our friends' new entryway into the bargain. |
| 17:52.29 | alestane | (Which had nothing to do with the car directly.) |
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| 17:54.08 | Lunessa | I was going to say your non-sequitur was showing... |
| 17:54.23 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 17:54.46 | Cairenn | hullo Fisker |
| 17:54.50 | Cairenn | I know, you killed a man |
| 17:55.22 | Ackis | just to watch him die |
| 17:57.20 | Jamash | I killed a Fisker once. |
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| 18:00.05 | alestane | Always good to include context in your evaluations: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-22667.html |
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| 18:03.44 | Yssaril | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/24/chinese-man-plays-mmo-on-titanic-screen-pleads-for-higher-pixel/ |
| 18:03.59 | Arrowmaster | i linked that last night |
| 18:04.03 | Fisker | it was a guy not a man Cairenn |
| 18:04.11 | Cairenn | ah |
| 18:04.37 | Jamash | guy wire? |
| 18:05.32 | Fisker | imma getting banned |
| 18:05.33 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.06 | Ackis | why Fisker? |
| 18:06.16 | Jamash | so I'm wondering to myself "how the heck am I supposed to get to badlands at level 44 as horde", and I click on the warchief's command board and it tells me to go to light's hope and get transportation _by rocket_ to badlands |
| 18:06.34 | Jamash | goblins joining the horde = awesome |
| 18:07.10 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:07.15 | Fisker | i'm getting exalted with the goblins |
| 18:07.21 | Fisker | halfway through honored now |
| 18:07.23 | foxlit | heh, who builds a dark shrine in response to a cannon proxy? |
| 18:07.37 | Fisker | what? |
| 18:07.50 | Fisker | how can you even proxy cannon that late? |
| 18:08.38 | Jamash | Fisker |
| 18:08.53 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/11fcb7cd9530bc339702c8d033a0db66.jpg <-hoho |
| 18:09.07 | Ackis | how Fisker? |
| 18:09.11 | foxlit | Fisker: because that wasn't the original plan :P |
| 18:09.30 | foxlit | How someone can let you proxy that late is a different question. |
| 18:09.41 | Jamash | Fisker: I proxy cannoned your mom. |
| 18:10.24 | Ackis | sometimes having a significant other that plays wow makes life hard =/ guild finding sucks, no one wants couples and it's hard to find a guild that needs both of our classes |
| 18:11.04 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~opera@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 18:11.11 | Jamash | Ackis: my guild has had several couples successfully raid with us |
| 18:11.52 | Jamash | we're "casual raiders" though, whatever that means |
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| 18:12.48 | Fisker | aww Ackis |
| 18:12.51 | Fisker | we want couples |
| 18:13.18 | Ackis | usually it doesn't work out in my experience (aka 1 is good, the other is bad) |
| 18:13.31 | Ackis | Fisker: I wished you were US, I think I would get along raiding with you |
| 18:13.57 | Fisker | :O |
| 18:14.07 | Lunessa | Ackis: Too bad you're HORDE. :P |
| 18:14.21 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:14.27 | Jamash | horde is superior |
| 18:14.43 | Fisker | agreed |
| 18:14.56 | zenzelezz | the two raid guilds have had several couples, and they all did well |
| 18:15.03 | Lunessa | Ackis: I like the Horde too, but I have an established infrastructure that I'm unwilling to throw away. |
| 18:15.23 | Jamash | alliance only has, like, two and a half good races |
| 18:15.24 | zenzelezz | + "I've been in" somewhere in that sentence |
| 18:15.40 | Ackis | yeah that's fair Lunessa :) |
| 18:15.52 | Jamash | "the two raid guilds have had several couples I've been in, and they all did well" ? |
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| 18:16.36 | zenzelezz | Jamash: see my follow-up |
| 18:16.49 | Jamash | zenzelezz: see your follow-up |
| 18:17.16 | zenzelezz | or don't, if you want to be funn |
| 18:17.18 | zenzelezz | +y |
| 18:17.25 | Jamash | I do :( |
| 18:17.46 | alestane | Also, Jamash if you can get to Swamp of Sorrows I believe there's an overland track to Burning Steppes, although I'll admit that's a rough zone to get through at 44. |
| 18:18.24 | Jamash | I used to port to gnomer and go through loch modan |
| 18:18.29 | Jamash | dunno if that works anymore |
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| 18:27.49 | Lunessa | Swamp of Sorrows is cake at 44 now. |
| 18:28.04 | Kraftman | is there some secret tirck to inheriting frames in lua? I'm trying to add an extra button to the guildframe but nothing shows |
| 18:28.32 | Jamash | damn, WPL looks kind of nice now |
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| 18:29.35 | Lunessa | You should get a squint at Desolace. |
| 18:30.26 | alestane | Boat doesn't go to Badlands from Gadgetzan, does it? |
| 18:31.23 | Lunessa | I don't think so. |
| 18:31.48 | alestane | I just know there's a dock below the goblin town in the Badlands, and another one next to Gagdetzan now. |
| 18:31.52 | Jamash | I don't actually know where the boat from gadget goes |
| 18:32.03 | Jamash | last I tried in beta it went from gadgetzan to gadgetzan |
| 18:32.48 | Lunessa | Same here... a very short loop, probably for a low-level quest against the pirates. |
| 18:32.57 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 18:35.42 | Lunessa | I was amused that the patch removed all the "Scepter of the Sands" quests from my log, but left all the random items for it in my inventory. |
| 18:36.13 | Cide | sad |
| 18:36.16 | Cide | that questline was amazing |
| 18:36.24 | Fisker | almost revered! |
| 18:36.53 | Lunessa | I really should have done it earlier, but I didn't really think about it until last Sunday. Then I was just going to do a little of it for rep, and then got engrossed in the story line. |
| 18:38.00 | Lunessa | Redeeming Eranikus was kind of fun. |
| 18:38.48 | Ackis | I wonder if I still have the sceptre in my bank |
| 18:39.24 | Fisker | i have your mom in my bank |
| 18:40.33 | Jamash | I saw a tauren paladin in full T2 with Sulfuras yesterday, looked frikkin sweet |
| 18:40.53 | Fisker | k |
| 18:40.57 | Fisker | i saw one today |
| 18:41.08 | Fisker | except he had bulwark of azzinoth |
| 18:43.20 | Fisker | 21000 down, 21000 to go |
| 18:43.24 | jnwhiteh | so.. boomkin or kitty? |
| 18:43.27 | jnwhiteh | for my leveling spec |
| 18:43.38 | Fisker | boomking |
| 18:44.18 | Jamash | boomkitty |
| 18:44.35 | Jamash | hey it's koltira! HI KOLTIRA! /wave |
| 18:45.50 | Lunessa | A friend race-changed his priest to Gnome and put on Season 2 PVP gear. It looks amazing on a gnome. |
| 18:46.05 | Jamash | shweet |
| 18:46.22 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Go feral, it's super-effective! |
| 18:46.27 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:46.46 | Lunessa | A wild Druid Appears! |
| 18:47.40 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Lunessa |
| 18:48.22 | Lunessa | Fisker: Did you eat his liver with some farva beans and a nice chianti? |
| 18:49.00 | Fisker | naw |
| 18:50.49 | olafski | nevcairiel: now framestack says spellactivationoverlayframe :( |
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| 18:53.38 | Jamash | that sounds like the spell alert thing |
| 18:53.47 | Jamash | shouldn't be mouse enabled |
| 18:57.30 | alestane | Dwarves...the only race of Azeroth to stock "emergency beer" around their camp. |
| 18:58.57 | dardack | ok is there an api to test if a druid is shapeshifted and what form and then to cancel it if a certain form? |
| 18:59.25 | dardack | !api shapeshift |
| 18:59.25 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'shapeshift': GameTooltip:SetShapeshift, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_USABLE, GetShapeshiftForm, GetShapeshiftFormInfo, GetShapeshiftFormID, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_COOLDOWN, GetShapeshiftFormCooldown, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORMS, CastShapeshiftForm, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM, GetNumShapeshiftForms, CancelShapeshiftForm |
| 18:59.42 | dardack | !api GetShapeshiftForm |
| 18:59.43 | lua_bot | GetShapeshiftForm: Returns the index of the active ability on the stance/shapeshift bar (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetShapeshiftForm) |
| 19:00.00 | alestane | You can't cancel druid shapeshifts from insecure code. |
| 19:00.24 | dardack | eh dont' care about canceling persay, recasting it removes it anyhways |
| 19:00.42 | dardack | just want to see if they are affected or not, since IsUsableSpell(flying mount) returns false if already in bird form |
| 19:01.06 | Fisker | a to the l to the to the s to the t to the a to the n to the e |
| 19:01.19 | Dagmar | From the! |
| 19:01.35 | Lunessa | alestane: I imagine that dwarven shaman would show up to a dranaeni shaman training facility, kick in the door, drop of a mountain of kegs, a smaller hill of food and say "Right then, who wants ta do sum shamnin', wut?" |
| 19:01.44 | dardack | ok if a druid hasn't learned all shapeshifting forms, GetShapeshiftForm only returns an index, is tehre a way to know if a # relates to an ability |
| 19:02.17 | alestane | Lunessa, the third quest new dwarves get is called "First things first: We're gonna need some beer". |
| 19:02.32 | Dagmar | Damn straight., |
| 19:02.36 | Lunessa | HAHA. I need a new dwarf toon then. |
| 19:02.47 | Dagmar | You've never played Dwarf Fortress? |
| 19:02.54 | Dagmar | Dwarves don't drink water--they drink beer. |
| 19:03.05 | dardack | can anyone verify GetShapeshiftForm() always returns 6 for flight form regardless if a druid has learned the other abilities? |
| 19:03.06 | Dagmar | The only time dwarves drink water is if they're ill. |
| 19:03.12 | dardack | i don't have a druid without all shapeshifts |
| 19:03.22 | Dagmar | Beer: It gets you through the day. |
| 19:03.29 | Lunessa | either do I dardack . |
| 19:03.40 | dardack | kk ty for respone lunessa |
| 19:03.42 | alestane | I believe the druid shapeshift indeices are always contiguous from 1, regardless of what you know. |
| 19:03.49 | dardack | kk ty alestane |
| 19:03.53 | dardack | going forward on that premise |
| 19:04.02 | Lunessa | Unneeded globals and tables makes me cry: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1118362116 |
| 19:04.14 | dardack | yassiril you on? |
| 19:05.22 | alestane | You bring the chick in Anvilmar a cask of Gomenbrau and she goes "NOW we can get some work done around here." |
| 19:06.34 | Lunessa | I'm only doing dailies for cash and crusader seals at the moment. I figure I'll wait until the 7th when I can get everything to count for Guild XP and such to start leveling everything. |
| 19:06.40 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 19:07.49 | Jamash | good to see that Augustus the Touched is still in business |
| 19:08.04 | dardack | eh i'm doing all quest lunessa, otherwise i wont' do till way later |
| 19:08.14 | dardack | i already loremaster but lost 200+ ach points |
| 19:08.17 | dardack | so wanna get em all back |
| 19:08.31 | alestane | When you go out to collect priceless artifacts from the troggs, I love that it counts when they throw them at you. |
| 19:08.43 | dardack | anyone done Westfall quest line yet? |
| 19:08.48 | dardack | so cool how they go back 5 years |
| 19:08.48 | Lunessa | I'm loremaster as well, at least on my main, so I'm willing to wait a bit. |
| 19:08.58 | Lunessa | I did it in beta. |
| 19:09.10 | dardack | and the Bravo Quest line in redridge |
| 19:09.15 | dardack | i'm loving this new stuff |
| 19:09.34 | dardack | only reason i took forever and quit 10 times to get Loremaster on my DK was I had done all the Azeroth quests like 6 times already since vanilla |
| 19:10.00 | Lunessa | My young Worgen will likely do everyone's newbie area for rep/completionism. |
| 19:10.15 | dardack | i've been debating paying to go worgen on my dk |
| 19:10.39 | Fisker |  |
| 19:10.52 | dardack | aparantly flight form is 5 now? |
| 19:10.56 | Fisker |  |
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| 19:11.35 | dardack | anyone have a boom druid? |
| 19:12.02 | Fisker |   |
| 19:13.31 | industrial | broom duid! |
| 19:14.33 | dardack | can anyone with a boom run /run print(GetShapeshiftForm()) |
| 19:14.37 | dardack | in boomkin form |
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| 19:15.01 | Lulia | Use this: http://www.wowpedia.org/API_GetShapeshiftFormID |
| 19:15.52 | dardack | dang it |
| 19:16.03 | nevcairiel | ID > name! |
| 19:16.03 | dardack | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.19 | nevcairiel | ya, the id doesnt, however |
| 19:16.38 | Lulia | Which is why it's generally better. |
| 19:17.02 | Lulia | GetShapeshiftForm changes with level too, based on whether or not you have X or Y form :-. |
| 19:17.02 | dardack | !api GetShapeShiftID |
| 19:17.03 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetShapeShiftID'. |
| 19:17.05 | Lulia | :-/* |
| 19:17.07 | industrial | Anyone else have this: I can't open more then one panels since 4.0. One panel closes the other. |
| 19:17.12 | dardack | !api GetShapeShift |
| 19:17.12 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'GetShapeShift': GetShapeshiftForm, GetShapeshiftFormInfo, GetShapeshiftFormID, GetShapeshiftFormCooldown |
| 19:17.16 | Lulia | wowprogramming doesn't have it added |
| 19:17.17 | dardack | ahh |
| 19:17.20 | Lulia | But I promise you it works |
| 19:17.21 | dardack | !api GetShapeShiftFormID |
| 19:17.21 | lua_bot | GetShapeshiftFormID: Returns the ID of the active shapeshift form, or nil if none (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetShapeshiftFormID) |
| 19:17.35 | dardack | it does lulia |
| 19:17.37 | dardack | looking at it now |
| 19:17.37 | Lulia | Oh, I guess it does have it! :P |
| 19:17.43 | Lulia | You just spelled it incorrectly |
| 19:17.44 | nevcairiel | I added it |
| 19:17.47 | dardack | yep |
| 19:17.49 | nevcairiel | and you stole the ids from there |
| 19:17.52 | nevcairiel | remember? |
| 19:17.53 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:17.54 | dardack | i needed Form |
| 19:17.59 | Lulia | Yes, I remember now, Nev ;) |
| 19:18.29 | Lulia | Mine is formatted prettier |
| 19:18.51 | dardack | see /run print(GetShapeshiftForm()) is an index, so when you first said ID |
| 19:18.54 | dardack | i assume you meant that |
| 19:18.55 | dardack | my bad |
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| 19:19.15 | dardack | woot it works |
| 19:19.26 | Lulia | Yay :) |
| 19:21.18 | dardack | i like the new loading screens |
| 19:22.10 | Lulia | They're pretty |
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| 19:24.43 | Fisker | zomg |
| 19:24.56 | Fisker | 30!11 steam users get their top 5 wishlists granted every day!11 |
| 19:25.10 | Dagmar | huh? |
| 19:25.39 | TC-Work | 3011? |
| 19:25.55 | Fisker | 30!11 |
| 19:28.57 | Dagmar | Ah, I see |
| 19:29.19 | Dagmar | 30 random people each day are being selected to just be given the five games at the top of their wish list. Not a bad promotional trick |
| 19:29.50 | Dagmar | That's bound to give them a good idea of which people are going to cave in and buy something the next time they take five bucks off the price. |
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| 19:30.03 | Arrowmaster | i should check my wishlist then |
| 19:31.20 | Dagmar | Seriously that is slick |
| 19:33.02 | Dagmar | Between Dwarf Fortress and Minecraft and WoW my time is _booked_ 'til the end of the year or I'd be jumping on Borderlands for $10 right now |
| 19:33.11 | olafski | jamash: that's what I thought :( |
| 19:33.27 | Iriel | If you dont have borderlands, you should get it. |
| 19:34.11 | TC-Work | how do you change the ranking system on your wishlist? |
| 19:34.21 | TC-Work | borderlands was meh |
| 19:34.28 | Arrowmaster | edit wishlist then drag |
| 19:34.46 | Mirrormn_ | borderlands was a very good game |
| 19:34.47 | TC-Work | i did edit, but i cant drag |
| 19:34.53 | Dagmar | iriel: Seriously tho... Zero time free |
| 19:35.01 | Mirrormn_ | great comprehensive style, fun, polished |
| 19:35.15 | Iriel | Dagmar: are you working on the theory you'll be able to pick it up cheaper later when you DO have time free? |
| 19:35.15 | Lunessa | What, might I ask, is Borderlands? |
| 19:35.19 | Dagmar | I like shooters but I know I won't get around to playing it until Spring |
| 19:35.27 | Iriel | Lunessa: it's a FPS, with great style and a sense of humor |
| 19:35.30 | Mirrormn_ | fps/rpg type game |
| 19:35.30 | TC-Work | Lunessa: FPS minor RPG |
| 19:35.38 | Iriel | With some RPG elements to keep it mixed up |
| 19:35.43 | Lunessa | In the vein of Fallout? |
| 19:35.44 | Dagmar | Iriel: Money isn't actuaally the issue. At $20 I can afford it no problem... I just haven't had time to play it |
| 19:35.47 | Mirrormn_ | a lot like fallout really |
| 19:35.51 | Dagmar | Im still working on Fallout New Vegas |
| 19:36.01 | Arrowmaster | better than fallout |
| 19:36.01 | Iriel | It's more tongue in cheek than fallout |
| 19:36.10 | Mirrormn_ | I thought Borderlands was better overall than FoNV tbh |
| 19:36.11 | Iriel | Much more redneck |
| 19:36.36 | Dagmar | I think FNV will probably be the last one of those I'll buy if they don't do something about their damn engine being generally slow |
| 19:37.10 | Mirrormn_ | borderlands is a lot less "free" than fallout |
| 19:37.26 | Dagmar | With the frame rate they have, even on very fast hardware, small arms combat would be a fool's game without VATS |
| 19:37.30 | Mirrormn_ | in terms of where you can go etc |
| 19:38.05 | Mirrormn_ | actually I had an opposite problem |
| 19:38.09 | Lunessa | This is PC, not console? (I own no consoles) |
| 19:38.13 | Dagmar | You get two guys on the screen at once, and movement of mobs gets sacked |
| 19:38.36 | Mirrormn_ | I was able to fight out of VATS fairly well, but *in* VATS, I got tons of extremely noticeable lag |
| 19:38.40 | Dagmar | The video card might be handling it well, but the animations drop to a state where shooting someone in the arm is damn near impossible |
| 19:38.49 | Mirrormn_ | I don't want to wait 5 seconds for the game to calculate my hit percentages |
| 19:39.53 | alestane | "What, they can't deal with a couple of troggs? And trolls? And incursions from the elemental plane?" |
| 19:39.59 | Dagmar | They need to sit down and spend serious time profiling their engine |
| 19:40.07 | alestane | "On second thought, that's actually kind of a lot...I'll see what I can do." |
| 19:40.14 | Dagmar | alestane: heh |
| 19:40.28 | Dagmar | Maybe someone will do something about the nelf infestation while they're at it |
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| 19:49.11 | cbreak | haha |
| 19:49.33 | cbreak | what a tip: eails from blizzard will always end in either blizzard.com or battle.net |
| 19:49.47 | cbreak | as if sender address is hard to forge... |
| 19:50.10 | Fisker | what's an eail? |
| 19:51.34 | Ackis | halp Fisker is in me |
| 19:52.07 | mitchnull | I need some help regarding the LDB spec |
| 19:52.38 | Nobgul | Sure just ask your question, and we will help you the best we can. |
| 19:52.44 | mitchnull | "An OnClick script handler to be directly attached to the display frame. Receives the usual args an OnClick receives (self, button)." <- should 'self' in this case be the frame, or the registered data obj? |
| 19:53.43 | Jamash | self is the frame |
| 19:53.45 | Nobgul | I would reckon that it would have to be the frame |
| 19:53.53 | Jamash | oh wait LDB? |
| 19:53.55 | nevcairiel | its a default script handler |
| 19:53.58 | Jamash | I don't know from LDB |
| 19:54.24 | mitchnull | nev: that is, it could in theory be directly attached to the frame, right? |
| 19:54.47 | mitchnull | nev: in other words, self would be the frame, and not the dataobj requesting the OnClick thing |
| 19:54.50 | nevcairiel | If in doubt, ask someone that knows |
| 19:55.02 | mitchnull | that's what I'm trying ;) |
| 19:55.09 | nevcairiel | like, someone that wrote a display that supports it |
| 19:55.13 | Jamash | when in doubt, read the source code |
| 19:55.14 | mitchnull | I did |
| 19:55.20 | mitchnull | and I chose to pass the frame |
| 19:55.31 | mitchnull | but there's at least one addon that assumes that self is the dataobj |
| 19:55.39 | mitchnull | hence the question |
| 19:55.42 | nevcairiel | then ask whoever wrote that spec |
| 19:55.48 | mitchnull | tekkub? |
| 19:55.55 | Jamash | could the frame be the dataobj? |
| 19:55.55 | mitchnull | no |
| 19:56.11 | mitchnull | the dataobj is a simple table with some magic |
| 19:56.18 | nevcairiel | the frame is created by you, and doesnt really have anything to do with the dataobj, right? |
| 19:56.22 | mitchnull | the frame is created by the display for the dataobj |
| 19:56.23 | Jamash | so are frames :P |
| 19:56.30 | mitchnull | nev: right |
| 19:56.31 | nevcairiel | pass the dataobj |
| 19:56.43 | nevcairiel | the data source doesnt have to know about your frame at all |
| 19:56.55 | mitchnull | well, sometimes it does |
| 19:57.03 | mitchnull | sec |
| 19:57.07 | nevcairiel | that violates the idea of the spec, tbh :p |
| 19:57.23 | nevcairiel | a plugin should be totally oblivious to what the display is doing |
| 19:57.25 | mitchnull | "An OnEnter script handler to be directly attached to the display frame. Usually used to display a tooltip. This handler should check the position of the frame it is passed and anchor the tooltip to that frame accordingly." |
| 19:57.49 | mitchnull | all the other script handlers/callbacks get the frame |
| 19:58.21 | Jamash | 1. "to be attached directly" means the frame = this, and "the frame it is passed" means frame = this |
| 19:58.23 | mitchnull | lemme check if tekkub wrote a display or not |
| 20:00.20 | TC-Work | ~seen kraps |
| 20:00.22 | purl | kraps is currently on #wowuidev (20h 28m 36s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 13h 9m 10s, last said: 'also http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/136974/patch-403a-hotfixes'. |
| 20:01.56 | mitchnull | nev: did you delete Data\Cache and \Cache? (I did, and now the applying non-critical thing is running for more than 20 mins :() |
| 20:03.28 | TC-Work | bah, stupid autocomplete |
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| 20:08.11 | mitchnull | NinjaPanel seems to pass the frame, not the dataobj |
| 20:09.09 | mitchnull | (or rather, it attaches the scirpt directly to the frame) |
| 20:12.06 | mitchnull | CB passes the frame, too |
| 20:15.03 | nevcairiel | did you ask the guy which display he developed against? |
| 20:15.10 | nevcairiel | the one assuming its the dataojb |
| 20:17.23 | mitchnull | no, the addon in question seems to be half-abandoned (broker_everything) |
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| 20:20.22 | olafski | mm.. feels funny to delete a lvl 80 |
| 20:20.57 | mitchnull | if it's a DK, it doesn't count |
| 20:21.05 | Dagmar | heh |
| 20:21.16 | olafski | it was a hunter |
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| 20:25.03 | mitchnull | alright, checked all the major displays, all pass the frame to OnClick |
| 20:25.21 | mitchnull | (NP, CB, DS, Fortress, SBC) |
| 20:27.02 | nevcairiel | BB? |
| 20:27.06 | nevcairiel | (ButtonBin) |
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| 20:29.10 | Ackis | Fisker: what's stronger: titanium or love? |
| 20:30.29 | TC-Work | depends what you are trying to do |
| 20:30.41 | mitchnull | checking (just for completeness though, I feel the issue is decided already ;) |
| 20:32.49 | mitchnull | same |
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| 20:42.43 | Ackis | Do not sneeze while getting an enema. The wall behind you will look like a jackson pollack painting. #LFMF |
| 20:44.55 | TC-Work | uhhh...dont you clench when you sneeze? |
| 20:45.14 | Ackis | I don't think any amount of clenching could prevent that |
| 20:45.22 | TC-Work | a sneeze? |
| 20:46.24 | Ackis | your bowels are full of water, you're already clenching to keep it in most likely, a sneeze just would mess it all up |
| 20:46.57 | Ackis | ok I've analyzed that way too much |
| 20:47.06 | TC-Work | i dunno, if you have to use the bathroom and sneeze you dont usually mess yourself |
| 20:50.12 | Dagmar | clears the window |
| 20:50.26 | tekkub | well that all depends |
| 20:50.34 | Dagmar | In fact... |
| 20:50.43 | tekkub | I man, if you're allready sitting down and just about to push, and you sneeze |
| 20:53.55 | mitchnull | 1x HandyNotes-1.1.6\Libs\Astrolabe\Astrolabe.lua:370: attempt to index local 'MinimapCompassRing' (a nil value) |
| 20:53.58 | mitchnull | qq |
| 20:54.32 | Ackis | http://www.gamestop.ca/gs/landing/blackfriday/images/BlackFridayFlyer.pdf |
| 20:54.38 | Ackis | lame sale is lame |
| 20:54.39 | TC-Work | tekkub: is that from experience? |
| 20:55.00 | olafski | there was something on mythbusters about sneezing.. but I think it was with closing your eyes, not your rectum |
| 20:55.57 | mitchnull | oh, friggin svn externals |
| 20:56.12 | Dagmar | Ackis: Lemme guess, they're offering 5% off retain on the games people sold them last month for half price? |
| 20:56.17 | Dagmar | er retail |
| 20:56.30 | DJJeff | ATLAS ADDON needs some changes cause of the level requirements to get into certain instances |
| 20:56.44 | Ackis | Dagmar: it's worse than that |
| 20:57.25 | Dagmar | They're having an online sale where the website sneers at you and tells you there's no copies left for anyone who didn't pre-order? |
| 20:58.12 | Dagmar | Oh wait, it's a PDF... |
| 20:58.33 | Dagmar | So, they install malware that looks for Steam and forcibly removes it? |
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| 21:01.18 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 21:01.30 | Napoleone | theres a new check on units for quest related? |
| 21:06.24 | foxlit | grr, disney.com |
| 21:07.45 | Lunessa | "The First Rule of Ring of Blood is You Don't Talk About Ring of Blood" |
| 21:08.23 | nevcairiel | I didnt actually find the new one in cata |
| 21:08.34 | Lunessa | It's in Twilight Highlands |
| 21:08.37 | nevcairiel | must be deep in uldum or twilight |
| 21:08.39 | Lunessa | And it's *hard* |
| 21:08.41 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, those i didnt finish |
| 21:08.55 | Lunessa | I did it before it was itemized. |
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| 21:10.19 | Lunessa | I hope the rewards are worth it. |
| 21:10.58 | Ackis | hey nevcairiel are any nazi related symbols banned in germany (ie: illegal)? not asking about morality, just if it's against the law to display them |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | its complicated |
| 21:11.29 | nevcairiel | they are allowed for educational and historic purposes |
| 21:11.39 | nevcairiel | but dont even think about making a ww2 game historically accurate |
| 21:12.11 | Ackis | could you go get a tattoo of a swastika for example? |
| 21:12.19 | Dagmar | they get upset about it even when the objective is to kill a bunch of Nazis |
| 21:12.28 | nevcairiel | i'm sure there are people that have those |
| 21:12.53 | nevcairiel | I dont think you would get arrested for it or anything |
| 21:13.41 | Ackis | nods |
| 21:13.41 | Dagmar | If you went to the store displaying a tatto like that on your arm and asked the grocer for 'white flour' you'd be in trouble |
| 21:13.42 | Ackis | thanks |
| 21:14.27 | DJJeff | any ATLAS ADDON dev in here? |
| 21:15.20 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 21:15.22 | DJJeff | atlasmod.com is dead someone took over the project I guess |
| 21:15.48 | Nobgul | i reckon that would be tiny |
| 21:15.58 | Nobgul | tinyu to be exact |
| 21:16.08 | Lunessa | The achievement overview page makes me feel like I've been slacking. |
| 21:16.50 | Teomyr | Ackis: a few years ago, a gaming magazine accidentally had a game trailer on their DVD which briefly showed a swastika flag |
| 21:16.52 | foxlit | DJJeff: what do you actually want from it? |
| 21:17.00 | foxlit | Instances have maps now, maps which are AWESOME. |
| 21:17.01 | Teomyr | Ackis: they had to recall the issue |
| 21:17.11 | DJJeff | ATLAS ADDON needs some changes cause of the level requirements to get into certain instances |
| 21:17.40 | Ackis | http://www.atlasmod.com/ isn't dead for me btw |
| 21:17.52 | DJJeff | url isnt |
| 21:17.55 | DJJeff | the site is |
| 21:18.00 | Nobgul | Contact info |
| 21:18.01 | Nobgul | Name: Lothaer |
| 21:18.01 | Nobgul | Email: lothayer@gmail.com |
| 21:18.01 | Ackis | Teomyr: american magazine I'm guessing? |
| 21:18.06 | Nobgul | try that |
| 21:18.14 | Teomyr | Ackis: german magazine |
| 21:18.32 | Ackis | Teomyr: ah surprised at that |
| 21:19.35 | Ackis | https://s-hphotos-snc4.fbcdn.net/hs984.snc4/75765_461564280657_539915657_6112097_5894002_n.jpg |
| 21:19.36 | Ackis | :) |
| 21:19.49 | nevcairiel | yeah in the press its really strict |
| 21:19.51 | Ackis | https://s-hphotos-ash2.fbcdn.net/hs495.ash2/76798_461564375657_539915657_6112099_4721550_n.jpg |
| 21:19.54 | nevcairiel | especially when it comes to video games |
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| 21:20.03 | nicoli_s | awww poor kitty |
| 21:20.26 | nicoli_s | my gf's parents are trying to force us to take our 3 legged kitty back |
| 21:20.29 | Ackis | nicoli_s: he's doing wonderful after the surgery |
| 21:20.36 | nicoli_s | well thats good |
| 21:21.08 | Ackis | nevcairiel: what about someone trying to start up a nazi party? (again aside from the moral issues) Is that illegal? |
| 21:21.22 | Nobgul | Ackis: 0_O |
| 21:21.23 | nevcairiel | a party party, or a political party? |
| 21:21.25 | Fisker | omg |
| 21:21.31 | Ackis | political party |
| 21:21.42 | Fisker | the day deathwing came was fucking hilarious |
| 21:22.03 | nevcairiel | we did outlaw some party a few years back that was extremist like that |
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| 21:29.13 | foxlit | Hm, so the PTR is going down too. |
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| 21:29.29 | nevcairiel | surprised it was still up |
| 21:30.32 | Ackis | that ptr is a whore |
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| 21:38.52 | jnwhiteh | Anyone wanna play with TomTomLite? |
| 21:39.02 | jnwhiteh | All it does right now is hook up to quest objectives |
| 21:39.29 | Lunessa | As in "Hey baby, want to see my "quest objective"? |
| 21:39.46 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 21:40.14 | Humbedooh | no no, lua_bot |
| 21:40.17 | Humbedooh | Lunessa* |
| 21:40.20 | Humbedooh | that's TomTomJones |
| 21:40.48 | Lunessa | I thought that was TomTom after a couple of vodka tonics and a spliff. |
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| 21:41.56 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 21:45.15 | Cide1 | so um |
| 21:45.20 | Cide1 | java |
| 21:45.27 | Cide1 | how do I compare a char[] to a string |
| 21:45.48 | Cide1 | do I have to create a new string from the char[] if I don't want to iterate over them myself? |
| 21:46.10 | Iriel | Or some other CharSequence |
| 21:46.34 | Iriel | CharBuffer, for example, can wrap your char[] |
| 21:46.44 | Cide1 | basically I'm using a BufferedReader which only reads into a char array |
| 21:46.57 | Cide1 | and then I want to compare the input to known string constants |
| 21:47.01 | Iriel | CharBuffer buffer = CharBuffer.wrap(yourCharArrayHere); |
| 21:47.12 | Iriel | You can add offset and length as well, if necessary |
| 21:47.39 | Cide1 | that works |
| 21:47.39 | Cide1 | thanks |
| 21:47.46 | Iriel | Then use String.contentEquals |
| 21:48.44 | Cide1 | so I have to do "foo".contentEquals(buffer) instead of buffer.equals("foo")? |
| 21:48.49 | zenzelezz | heh... http://guu.fi/java-is-portable.png |
| 21:48.51 | Cide1 | makes sense but pretty ugly |
| 21:49.02 | Iriel | Yes, because buffer isn't a String, so it's not really EQUAL |
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| 21:49.06 | Cide1 | yeah |
| 21:50.58 | Iriel | Most people just create a String from their input and use .equals |
| 21:51.06 | Iriel | Depending on the complexity of your app, that might be simpler |
| 21:51.18 | Iriel | You pay the cost of an array copy, but it's not that bad for most normal uses |
| 21:51.28 | Lunessa | Foxtrot + XKCD ? Yes please. http://xkcd.com/824/ |
| 21:51.48 | Fisker | no |
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| 21:52.26 | jnwhiteh | http://bit.ly/hmOoeP |
| 21:53.13 | Cide1 | typo there ("wich") |
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| 21:58.17 | jnwhiteh | my h key is tempermental. |
| 21:58.20 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 21:58.53 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:00.29 | cog|away | yay short day |
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| 22:04.08 | Fisker | roh roh |
| 22:04.14 | Fisker | the exploit just got fixed |
| 22:04.17 | Fisker | i smell ban inc :( |
| 22:04.49 | Lulia | exploit? |
| 22:04.50 | Nobgul | Lol |
| 22:04.56 | Nobgul | he found a money exploit |
| 22:05.03 | Fisker | i didn't |
| 22:05.18 | Fisker | but you can farm unlimited goblin rep in brd by resetting the council of 7 event |
| 22:05.37 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:05.44 | Fisker | just heard from a few guildies that they just stopped giving reputation a few minutes ago |
| 22:05.49 | Nobgul | The nature of gaming. |
| 22:06.54 | Arrowmaster | resetting? |
| 22:07.26 | Shirik | I have now successfully locked my account 3 times in 7 days |
| 22:07.30 | Shirik | including twice today |
| 22:07.40 | Fisker | you know when you get a mob to leash and respawn any adds in the encounter+ |
| 22:07.57 | Arrowmaster | i thought you got locked in that room when you started the fight |
| 22:08.05 | Fisker | you do |
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| 22:08.26 | Fisker | i can also explain you about the mechanic of aggro and proximity |
| 22:08.55 | Fisker | do you want to know moar? |
| 22:09.05 | alestane | Basically, there's this thing called "aggro." It's a very complicated technical roleplaying expression. |
| 22:09.16 | alestane | Loosely explained, it means "the priest dies." |
| 22:09.18 | Ackis | so you kill the first 6 Fisker then you run to the other side of the room? |
| 22:09.21 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:09.25 | Shirik | Priests shouldn't die |
| 22:09.26 | Fisker | yeah Ackis |
| 22:09.35 | Ackis | but it's fixed now? |
| 22:09.37 | Ackis | you ruined it on me |
| 22:09.38 | Fisker | yep |
| 22:09.39 | Fisker | yes |
| 22:09.41 | Fisker | i know |
| 22:09.45 | Fisker | did it on purpose |
| 22:09.49 | Adys | So why exactly did I spawn in acherus. |
| 22:09.59 | Cide1 | why wouldn't you |
| 22:10.03 | Arrowmaster | are you a DK? |
| 22:10.08 | Adys | I'm a mage |
| 22:10.13 | Arrowmaster | sweet |
| 22:10.19 | alestane | http://ianknauer.com/Onyxia%20Wipe.swf, Shirik. |
| 22:10.19 | Cide1 | set your hearth there |
| 22:10.24 | Fisker | why couldn't you be a warlock? |
| 22:10.28 | Cide1 | guess there's no innkeeper sadly |
| 22:10.30 | Adys | i took the flight path |
| 22:10.36 | alestane | Het the flight point, Adys. |
| 22:10.39 | alestane | Get* |
| 22:10.40 | Adys | just did |
| 22:10.51 | Adys | I logged out in zul gurub |
| 22:10.52 | alestane | Then you should be able to come back. |
| 22:11.02 | alestane | Well, ZG got rebuilt. |
| 22:11.05 | Cide1 | do the dk quest line |
| 22:11.10 | Adys | funny |
| 22:11.11 | alestane | Why it sent you to Acherus I don't know. |
| 22:11.21 | alestane | But my shammie ended up at the IF airfield. |
| 22:11.32 | Nobgul | Anyone know where the lvl 80 training dummies in org are. |
| 22:11.34 | Ackis | wait the DK's destroyed ZG? |
| 22:11.44 | Ackis | Nobgul: look in a mirror? :) |
| 22:11.56 | Arrowmaster | will anybody be able to get to acherus once they let you fly? |
| 22:12.07 | Nobgul | i saw a druid there yesterday on my dk |
| 22:12.10 | Adys | think so Arrowmaster |
| 22:12.14 | alestane | Meh, the flash file doesn't seem to work. |
| 22:12.58 | alestane | I guess you'll have to watch it at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04 |
| 22:13.17 | Adys | alright |
| 22:13.19 | Adys | whats there to do? |
| 22:13.22 | Cide1 | I don't like the 2n-1 convention for odd |
| 22:13.32 | Cide1 | 2n+1 seems much more logical |
| 22:13.58 | foxlit | zero. |
| 22:14.00 | foxlit | and stuff |
| 22:14.15 | alestane | The shot at about 0:55 is what I was referring to. |
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| 22:25.33 | Adys | where's the stormwind cooking daily questgiver? |
| 22:26.04 | Cide1 | vacation |
| 22:27.22 | Xyphoid | by stockades |
| 22:27.27 | Dagmar | In the Canals |
| 22:27.44 | Dagmar | ..not quite over hte water like the fishing guy |
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| 22:27.59 | Dagmar | IIRC I saw him at the same place as the Midsummer fire is planted |
| 22:28.13 | Adys | ty |
| 22:28.40 | Dagmar | No problem |
| 22:28.59 | Dagmar | I was downright flabbergasted to see new cooking recipes there |
| 22:30.16 | Xyphoid | yeah, me too |
| 22:30.30 | Xyphoid | i wasn't expecting to have to get onto the cata dailies just yet |
| 22:30.42 | Xyphoid | i did like the +fishing skill reward from the fishing quest |
| 22:31.08 | Arrowmaster | the quest gives fishing skill? |
| 22:31.18 | Xyphoid | yeah |
| 22:31.22 | Xyphoid | and the cooking one gives cooking skill |
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| 22:33.59 | Iriel | Though if you want cooking skill just do the pilgrim's bounty quests |
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| 22:42.26 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: That fishing skill-up from the daily becomes progressively more awesome in that at the higher levels you get to skip a LOT of fishing per point |
| 22:42.56 | Xyphoid | ayep - i'm hung in the late 200s and was trying to build up the energy to sit there |
| 22:43.01 | Xyphoid | so it's lovely |
| 22:43.40 | Xyphoid | hm, i assume the older fishing quests don't have that? |
| 22:44.03 | Dagmar | They didn't. I don't know about now |
| 22:44.08 | Adys | Iriel: yeah |
| 22:44.19 | Adys | went from 65ish to 330 cooking skill on my lvl5 |
| 22:44.19 | Dagmar | I've still got one left to do on Old Man Barlo, but frankly I'd rather flag up and kill him |
| 22:44.57 | Iriel | I went from 1 to 315, then got bored of killing turkeys |
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| 22:50.50 | jnwhiteh | Yay, my laptop comes tomorrow! |
| 22:50.51 | jnwhiteh | opefully |
| 22:51.16 | zenzelezz | :) |
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| 22:54.52 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: cant join party, in another |
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| 23:01.55 | Adys | Shirik |
| 23:01.56 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_breath_mints |
| 23:02.03 | Adys | i'm crying |
| 23:02.56 | Wobin | too many mints, Adys? |
| 23:05.36 | Shirik | Adys: lol. |
| 23:07.16 | Shirik | Adys, that really should be deleted |
| 23:07.18 | Pneumatus | This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it. |
| 23:07.21 | Pneumatus | do it. |
| 23:07.32 | Shirik | just helped by condensing it, actually |
| 23:07.49 | Dagmar | Heh http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/ |
| 23:08.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:08.49 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/11/mage-monopoly/ |
| 23:09.32 | Kraps | Dagmar: that must have hurt |
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| 23:16.51 | Napoleone | dam so much shit lol |
| 23:21.26 | Kraps | zomg http://store.steampowered.com/ |
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| 23:30.51 | Cide1 | nice |
| 23:32.16 | Corrodias | so, what's the story behind portals? i hear they're making it harder to get around? |
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| 23:34.00 | Wobin | no really? |
| 23:34.04 | Wobin | my god |
| 23:38.12 | ccox | Just find a naked night elf female who's dancing -- they always seem to get around. |
| 23:41.24 | cog|away | anyone know if eviscerate is bugged? says it requires 16 energy but i can't get it to cast below ~40... |
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| 23:44.47 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127122712?page=1#3 apparently |
| 23:47.43 | Napoleone | hmm anyone on the UE server that could help me out a bit? |
| 23:48.33 | Legorol | cogwheel: will you be releasing some of your Minecraft videos taht you are making/have made? |
| 23:49.01 | cogwheel | Legorol: i just finished the intro last night. i'm planning to record the first one today |
| 23:49.08 | Legorol | :) nice |
| 23:49.45 | cogwheel | i put the intro up on youtube (unlisted) to test the lighting & such... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjRaaCD6nlE |
| 23:50.35 | Legorol | I am always looking forward to the next video by C to the Ogwheel Cogwheel :D |
| 23:50.43 | cogwheel | haha |
| 23:51.10 | Legorol | lol @ creeper, lava and spider deaths >.< |
| 23:51.33 | cogwheel | that was all contrived except the one missing the waterfall |
| 23:51.36 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 23:51.49 | Legorol | look completely natural to me :P been there done them |
| 23:51.58 | Legorol | i guess your inventory is empty which is a giveaway |
| 23:52.55 | Kraps | blasted lands has an east coast now |
| 23:52.57 | bluspacecow | lolz minecraft |
| 23:53.19 | Wobin | cogwheel: haha, I like the intro |
| 23:56.14 | cogwheel | the timing of that creeper explosion with the beat was entirely an accident |
| 23:58.23 | Wobin | ohgod creepers =( |
