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| 00:02.02 | Jamash | So, who here is going for physical copy / collector's edition / digital upgrade? |
| 00:02.07 | xyphoid | digital |
| 00:02.09 | A-KO | collector's |
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| 00:02.10 | Ackis | !api companions |
| 00:02.10 | lua_bot | GetNumCompanions: Returns the number of mounts or non-combat pets the player can summon (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumCompanions) |
| 00:02.15 | A-KO | standing in line Dec 7th :P |
| 00:02.30 | Jamash | I normally get collector's but I'm "between employment opportunities" so I'm thinking digital |
| 00:02.42 | xyphoid | since a: currency fluctuations meant that the digital looked a lot cheaper than buying from the shop and b: as I understand it there's nothing on the DVD i need |
| 00:02.58 | nebula169 | CE is pretty much sold out everywhere here |
| 00:04.20 | Lunessa | bought a physical CE and a normal retail box. |
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| 00:09.39 | Jamash | what for? |
| 00:10.32 | Lunessa | I have two accounts and needed a second key and I got a really good deal. |
| 00:11.03 | Jamash | ah |
| 00:12.50 | Mirrormn | recommendations for a tidyplates theme? |
| 00:13.30 | nebula169 | i just use neon |
| 00:13.40 | Wobin | I use threatplates |
| 00:13.49 | nebula169 | tp on my warrior when tanking |
| 00:14.02 | Wobin | good on dps too |
| 00:14.05 | Wobin | to know when to panic =P |
| 00:14.11 | nebula169 | neon does all that |
| 00:14.14 | Mirrormn | I've been using threat plates but it's not clear enough when I'm targetting something or not |
| 00:14.23 | nebula169 | tp changing the bar to the mark color is nice, though |
| 00:14.48 | nebula169 | yea, i have everything not targeted lower opacity and smaller |
| 00:15.38 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMKmQmkJ9gg < okay that's pretty freakin' awesome |
| 00:16.17 | Wobin | electric violins are awesome |
| 00:16.52 | Jamash | yes |
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| 00:19.10 | Mirrormn | mmm, it looks like threatplates has a lot of new options |
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| 00:19.18 | Primer | I wonder what I'm missing out on my not being here |
| 00:19.24 | Mirrormn | including extremely obvious targeting textures |
| 00:19.41 | nebula169 | oh yea |
| 00:19.45 | nebula169 | the big arrows |
| 00:20.23 | Mirrormn | yar, I'm likin that a lot |
| 00:20.29 | Mirrormn | although it's slightly large |
| 00:20.42 | Jerub | i like the threat wheel |
| 00:20.54 | bluspacecow | threat wheel ? |
| 00:20.55 | Jerub | it's a nice visual indicator. the horizontal bars sucked because they blur into other bars. |
| 00:21.03 | bluspacecow | is that like a wheel of fortune you spin ? |
| 00:21.09 | Jerub | bluspacecow: it's like a tacho on each bar |
| 00:21.42 | Mirrormn | I'm not super worried about actually seeing threat on nameplates |
| 00:21.58 | Mirrormn | it's a nice feature, to be sure, but knowing what I'm targeting is much more important imo |
| 00:22.07 | Jerub | bluspacecow: it shows you your threat % as a percentage against the next top person, makes it very easy to wave your mouse over all the plates so they update, then target the one who you have least threat on. |
| 00:22.26 | Jerub | Mirrormn: multi-target tanking is awesome with this. |
| 00:22.35 | nebula169 | still prefer the bar for that |
| 00:22.48 | nebula169 | the wheel seemed awkward |
| 00:23.04 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 00:23.12 | Mirrormn | I do love threat indicators for tanking |
| 00:23.19 | Mirrormn | I do very little tanking these days though |
| 00:23.34 | Jerub | Mirrormn: i use it on my dps toons too. |
| 00:23.51 | Jerub | i throw on an aoe, then when i swap to single-target i do it on the guy i have least threat on. :P |
| 00:23.59 | Jerub | (as a % of what the tank has) |
| 00:24.42 | Mirrormn | so, more, the one which a tank is focusing on the most |
| 00:24.47 | Mirrormn | is this an option of threatplates? |
| 00:24.57 | Jerub | i'm using neon theme in tidy plates. |
| 00:25.17 | Jerub | threat plates must have something similar. |
| 00:25.35 | Mirrormn | threat plates does coloring based on threat situation |
| 00:25.59 | Mirrormn | but I dunno about this threat wheel business |
| 00:26.28 | Jerub | please dont' think that i'm saying you must use it. |
| 00:26.36 | Jerub | it's just something i found that worked for me |
| 00:27.02 | nebula169 | its a base widget, tp doesn't use it |
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| 00:28.15 | Jerub | no screen shots on the net :/ |
| 00:28.23 | Legorol | Have they done something to BRD - Prison Block instance? |
| 00:28.37 | Legorol | I thought the last boss is supposed to be the woman in the cell block, reachable quickly from the start |
| 00:28.47 | Legorol | but she wasn't even there this time, let alone allowing us to finish the instance |
| 00:28.48 | Jerub | Legorol: something that was mentioned in the blue was making it so that when you enter the instance it ports you to where you start instead of the start of the instance. |
| 00:28.58 | Jerub | Legorol: oh damn. that sucks |
| 00:28.59 | Legorol | Jerub: not relevant. |
| 00:29.22 | Legorol | We ported in at entrance, fresh group. |
| 00:29.28 | Legorol | Went straight to prison block, cleared it, no woman |
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| 00:29.42 | bluspacecow | maybe she was still getting ready |
| 00:29.46 | bluspacecow | woman are like that |
| 00:29.51 | Legorol | High Interrogator Gerstahn is her name |
| 00:30.09 | Jamash | maybe she was interrogating someone |
| 00:30.15 | Legorol | lol maybe |
| 00:30.29 | bluspacecow | applying make up ? |
| 00:30.34 | bluspacecow | deciding what to wear ? |
| 00:30.52 | Jamash | choosing between the brass knuckles and the barbed whip? |
| 00:31.00 | bluspacecow | :X |
| 00:31.15 | bluspacecow | f |
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| 00:33.51 | Lunessa | Sticks and stones may break her bones, but chains and whips excite her? |
| 00:35.36 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 00:36.00 | Jamash | I think that's whitemane |
| 00:40.11 | bluspacecow | http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/10eb44c6-d0c2-4d41-a315-ddfd7890f944.jpg NSFW |
| 00:40.31 | Mirrormn | maybe I should use the Link theme ^_^ |
| 00:40.45 | Mirrormn | I wish it would use a different number of hearts for different types of mobs |
| 00:40.58 | Kraftman | how si that NSFW? |
| 00:41.10 | Kraftman | what kind of company prohibits a picture of acondom wrapper? |
| 00:41.13 | bluspacecow | a picture of a condom packet |
| 00:41.16 | bluspacecow | unused |
| 00:41.20 | Kraftman | OMG! |
| 00:41.25 | bluspacecow | hey |
| 00:41.29 | Kraftman | that means someone might have sex eventually |
| 00:41.32 | bluspacecow | im just trying to be a good netizen |
| 00:42.06 | nebula169 | how is that nfsw |
| 00:42.13 | Kraftman | http://weblogs.cw11.com/news/local/morningnews/blogs/baby.jpg |
| 00:42.21 | Kraftman | NSFW becase 9 months ago someone did it |
| 00:42.39 | nebula169 | oh shit, my boss almost saw that |
| 00:42.53 | Kraftman | well i got banned fromthe inerents |
| 00:42.55 | Kraftman | bb |
| 00:43.01 | Mirrormn | I just got fired =/ |
| 00:43.05 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 00:43.05 | Mirrormn | and I wasn't even at work |
| 00:43.14 | bluspacecow | its just that i linked a NSFW link |
| 00:43.22 | Predicate | I just got fired, and I don't even have a job! |
| 00:43.23 | bluspacecow | and someone was at work and they were like |
| 00:43.30 | bluspacecow | zomg are you trying to get me fired ? |
| 00:44.02 | Jamash | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Earth_Mars_Comparison.jpg NSFW (millions of people are probably having sex in this image) |
| 00:44.22 | A-KO | It's strange reading about all these snowstorms and everything going on |
| 00:44.26 | A-KO | and it's like 60 degrees here |
| 00:44.29 | Mirrormn | well, millions of people are definitely having sex in that picture |
| 00:44.30 | Predicate | ...and then there's a case where "NSFW" makes you click something you wouldn't have otherwise... |
| 00:44.49 | bluspacecow | on mars ? |
| 00:44.54 | Mirrormn | but I'd say probably only thousands or possibly hundreds would be having sex outside |
| 00:44.56 | bluspacecow | people are having sex on mars |
| 00:44.57 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 00:45.00 | bluspacecow | creative. |
| 00:45.04 | Mirrormn | at any given time |
| 00:45.31 | Mirrormn | my mouse automatically gravitates towards links marked NSFW |
| 00:47.21 | Ackis | Jamash: I just blew my load and caused the dinosaur to go extinct |
| 00:47.49 | Jamash | Fisker: How did you get Ackis's password? |
| 00:48.40 | Mirrormn | well Fisker probably killed him |
| 00:50.55 | Ackis | I just killed a man |
| 00:51.02 | bluspacecow | \o/ AQ que popped ! |
| 00:51.49 | Jamash | how do you queue for ahn'quiraj? |
| 00:52.40 | Jerub | Jamash: the AQ20 boss for the post-cata raid events maybe? |
| 00:52.49 | Jamash | oic |
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| 00:54.25 | Mike-N-Go | WB Cairenn |
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| 01:02.37 | Jamash | The message on the upload page still asks if the addon is compatibile with 4.0.1 |
| 01:02.48 | Jamash | *compatible |
| 01:03.09 | Mike-N-Go | Night |
| 01:10.39 | Lunessa | Alas, poor beta, I knew it, channel. A place of infinite bugs, of many new features. It has scoured away mine hours and in my mind how noble it was. |
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| 01:20.10 | Nobgul|AFK | Jamash; There arent any huge api changes arew there?> |
| 01:20.25 | Jamash | not that I know of |
| 01:20.38 | Nobgul|AFK | kk |
| 01:23.38 | Kemayo | Blizzard must not be doing their jobs properly. |
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| 01:30.45 | Blu|Shower | mine hours ? Lunessa you play mine craft ? |
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| 01:31.30 | Lunessa | No, I was speaking in Shakespearian English. |
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| 02:00.20 | Shirik | Cide!! |
| 02:00.25 | Shirik | for i in range(len(reducedGrammar) - 1, -1, -1): |
| 02:00.25 | Shirik | v = reducedGrammar[i]; |
| 02:00.41 | Shirik | 4> KeyError: 2 |
| 02:00.48 | Shirik | I'm a bit confused as to why |
| 02:01.11 | Cide | you're using a dict? |
| 02:01.30 | Shirik | ... oh yeah |
| 02:01.32 | Cide | is len(dct) even defined |
| 02:01.33 | Shirik | oops >.> |
| 02:01.39 | Shirik | yeah this is definitely a dict |
| 02:01.41 | Cide | that was some epic fail |
| 02:02.10 | Cide | your KeyError gave you away |
| 02:02.14 | Shirik | ok so back to the original question |
| 02:02.15 | Cide | it'd be IndexError for a list |
| 02:02.21 | Shirik | Got a safe way to delete an entry in a dict? |
| 02:02.29 | Cide | del dct[key] |
| 02:02.39 | Cide | not sure if it's safe while iterating |
| 02:02.53 | Cide | nope |
| 02:03.21 | Shirik | sigh |
| 02:03.28 | Cide | easiest way is to make a shallow copy |
| 02:03.35 | Cide | dct2 = dict(dct) |
| 02:03.40 | Cide | and iterate over that but delete in the originalk |
| 02:03.43 | Cide | original |
| 02:03.56 | Shirik | that's a good idea |
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| 02:37.28 | Adys | reduces Shirik's grammar |
| 02:37.52 | Adys | Cide: I just ported all that was left of my pyqt4 code to pyside |
| 02:37.54 | Adys | hurray \o/ |
| 02:37.57 | Cide | nice |
| 02:39.28 | Adys | [02:03:09] <+Cide> dct2 = dict(dct) |
| 02:39.28 | Adys | er |
| 02:39.31 | Adys | ew ew ew :p |
| 02:39.34 | Adys | use dict.copy() |
| 02:39.38 | Cide | or that |
| 02:39.53 | Adys | but er Shirik |
| 02:39.57 | Adys | just iterate over dict.items() |
| 02:40.38 | Adys | dict.items() creates a list of key/var tuple pairs |
| 02:40.49 | Adys | so you're iterating over that not the dict |
| 02:41.03 | Cide | or that |
| 02:41.05 | Cide | smartass |
| 02:41.13 | Adys | my ass is smarter than your ass |
| 02:42.11 | Adys | Cide, wanna compare asses? |
| 02:42.17 | Cide | sure |
| 02:43.54 | Shirik | or I did it my own way |
| 02:43.57 | Shirik | so nyah |
| 02:44.18 | nicoli_s | man, i hate debugging problems doing 3d coding |
| 02:44.34 | nicoli_s | ive got my terrain to show up fine but cant figure out why my custom model isnt rendering |
| 02:45.04 | Shirik | are you sure it's not rendering? |
| 02:45.14 | Shirik | A common problem I've gotten myself into is trying to render things behind the camera |
| 02:45.22 | Shirik | flipping the axis and what not |
| 02:46.43 | nicoli_s | ive tried messing around with those, and nothing so far |
| 02:47.41 | Shirik | Cide |
| 02:47.44 | Cide | yeah |
| 02:47.47 | Shirik | new strategy against terran: EMP |
| 02:47.56 | Cide | against terran eh |
| 02:47.56 | Shirik | medivacs don't like EMPs |
| 02:48.04 | Cide | true |
| 02:48.07 | Shirik | just need one or two ghosts for it |
| 02:48.31 | Cide | yeah |
| 02:48.39 | Shirik | I'm beginning to think everything in the game can be solved by either marauders or EMPs |
| 02:49.10 | Cide | why marauders |
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| 02:49.31 | Cide | did you know that two marines do more dps than a marauder |
| 02:49.34 | Cide | on armored units |
| 02:49.44 | Cide | and cost 25 gas less |
| 02:50.03 | Shirik | marauders |
| 02:50.13 | Shirik | actually yeah I usually go 50/50 |
| 02:50.21 | Shirik | of 75/25 |
| 02:50.27 | Shirik | depending on how much minerals I had |
| 02:50.31 | Shirik | 75 = marines |
| 02:50.36 | Cide | ah |
| 02:50.44 | Cide | yeah, I think we're often just not teching enough |
| 02:50.51 | Cide | I got ultras way too late in some of our games the other day |
| 02:50.55 | Shirik | yeah I started pulling thors into the game |
| 02:51.02 | Shirik | which do better than I thought |
| 02:51.14 | Shirik | just need a few to make a difference |
| 02:51.39 | Cide | yeah |
| 02:51.44 | Cide | or BATTLECRUISER RUSHING |
| 02:53.10 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:53.13 | Shirik | I will do this from now on |
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| 02:55.27 | Mirrormn | 2 marines do more dps when left alone but a marauder can take a lot more damage before you lose any dps |
| 02:55.55 | Cide | indeed |
| 02:56.19 | Shirik | plus marauders have better catch phrases |
| 02:56.23 | Mirrormn | so in a combat situation, a marauder may very well end up doing more damage |
| 02:56.35 | Cide | rarely |
| 02:56.59 | xyphoid | did you consider armor too |
| 02:57.19 | Cide | yes |
| 02:57.46 | Cide | on non-heavy marines are even better |
| 02:57.51 | Cide | non-armored rather |
| 02:58.07 | xyphoid | not the armored attribute, the actual damage penalty |
| 02:58.23 | Cide | how does it make a difference? |
| 02:58.41 | xyphoid | it's applied per hit, and marines shoot twice as fast as mauraders IRIC |
| 02:59.03 | Cide | true |
| 03:00.04 | xyphoid | so each extra point of armor reduces your maurader damage by 1 and your 2 marines damage by 4 (very ish) |
| 03:00.28 | Mirrormn | yup |
| 03:00.31 | Cide | each upgrade you're down basically |
| 03:00.43 | Cide | I doubt it puts the fight in the marauders' favor still |
| 03:06.31 | xyphoid | vs armor 1 armored units 2 marines do 11.6 dps, 1 maurader does 12.7 |
| 03:06.59 | Mirrormn | are there any armored type units that don't have any armor? |
| 03:07.15 | Cide | math? |
| 03:08.24 | Wobin | what date is caty? |
| 03:08.32 | Thunder_Child | 12 7 iirc |
| 03:08.50 | xyphoid | marines do 6 damage -1 armor / 0.8608 cooldown = 5.8 dps |
| 03:09.14 | xyphoid | maruaders do 10 damage +10 armored -1 armor / 1.5 cooldown = 12.66 dps |
| 03:10.10 | Cide | could be right, dunno |
| 03:11.22 | Adys | Cide |
| 03:11.24 | Adys | you used py2exe? |
| 03:11.30 | Cide | once |
| 03:11.45 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/278667/ |
| 03:11.53 | Adys | im getting this with bundling turned on =( |
| 03:12.09 | Cide | no clue there |
| 03:19.11 | Jerub | *looks* |
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| 03:19.38 | Jerub | Adys: as i recall, it's hard to package extension dlls when you're packaging as a single executable. |
| 03:19.48 | Jerub | actually, as i reclal, it's not possible, but my knowledge is dated. |
| 03:19.51 | Jerub | ask in #python for help |
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| 03:20.40 | Jerub | what it does when you package as a single executable is append a zip file to the end of the .exe file, and import from that, but windows can't load dlls (which is what .pyd files are) from a .zip without extracting them to the fs. |
| 03:32.33 | Shirik | hey Adys |
| 03:32.37 | Shirik | I think I understand that error |
| 03:32.48 | Shirik | you should look at line 13 of main.py |
| 03:32.55 | Shirik | you did something wrong there |
| 03:34.42 | cog|away | Shirik: ping |
| 03:35.00 | Shirik | ãã¯ãã |
| 03:35.02 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin#Medical_and_nutritional_properties this section seems fishy to me |
| 03:35.08 | cogwheel | starting with the 2nd para |
| 03:35.29 | cogwheel | look at one of the citations: http://www.waningmoon.com/nails/faq.shtml |
| 03:35.57 | Shirik | the second paragraph can be trashed |
| 03:36.00 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 03:36.30 | Shirik | the others are fairly well cited |
| 03:36.43 | Shirik | if you don't like it, trash it :P |
| 03:37.01 | cogwheel | too lazy |
| 03:37.04 | cogwheel | much rather bug you |
| 03:37.27 | Shirik | :/ |
| 03:37.35 | Shirik | I am way too tired right now |
| 03:37.36 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:39.08 | cogwheel | yeah you are tired... |
| 03:39.20 | cogwheel | http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/50126.php not sure how that constitutes "well cited" |
| 03:39.28 | cogwheel | s/well/fairly well/ |
| 03:39.37 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 03:45.50 | Amarande | so, is there any word on whether the Sundering happens tomorrow or next week? |
| 03:46.10 | cogwheel | yes. |
| 03:46.18 | Amarande | cogwheel: which? |
| 03:46.26 | cogwheel | you misunderstand... |
| 03:46.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: âPhotography is not art goddamnet! Itâs just a Xerox of what just happened.â |
| 03:46.34 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:46.35 | cogwheel | yes it happens tomorrow or next week |
| 03:46.37 | Shirik | ok |
| 03:46.38 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:46.49 | Amarande | I'm still guessing next week, since they wouldn't do it in the middle of PB, would they? |
| 03:46.51 | Shirik | anyone that actually says that obviously doesn't know anything about photography |
| 03:46.51 | cogwheel | stops being an ass |
| 03:47.10 | Amarande | That would have left a lot of people with just two days practically to get all their PB stuff done. |
| 03:47.23 | Shirik | Amarande: They could |
| 03:47.25 | Amarande | (Too much server instability on huge patch Tuesdays and often Wednesdays, and people often go away for Thanksgiving.) |
| 03:50.31 | Thunder_Child | is that even possible cogwheel? |
| 03:50.51 | cogwheel | at least moreso than for you :P |
| 03:51.07 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 04:07.32 | Shirik | night all |
| 04:07.38 | Shirik | omg I'm going to bed before Cide, unpossible |
| 04:08.53 | Cide | haha |
| 04:08.54 | Cide | good night |
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| 04:16.57 | mikma | sioraiocht: ya, good thing i got new winterworkwear |
| 04:18.43 | Computerpunk | October 2010 |
| 04:18.43 | Computerpunk | The Ghoul is now a playable primary DPS class. Comes with a Death Knight pet to aid it in battle. |
| 04:22.00 | cogwheel | wow... the CPU in my laptop leaves my desktop in the dust when FRAPSing minecraft... |
| 04:22.52 | cogwheel | 80+fps at 1600x900 vs ~20 at 1280x720 :\ |
| 04:23.32 | Mirrormn | doesn't FRAPS throttle at 60 fps? |
| 04:23.51 | cogwheel | apparently not when recording win7 dwm |
| 04:24.18 | cogwheel | actually on my desktop it seems to cap at the recording rate, but i haven't checked off the box to do that |
| 04:24.24 | cogwheel | it may just be coincidence |
| 04:24.33 | cogwheel | i only record at 24fps |
| 04:28.59 | Computerpunk | must |
| 04:29.00 | Computerpunk | eat |
| 04:29.02 | Computerpunk | coffeeeeee |
| 04:29.33 | Lunessa | g'night folks. If the world shatters before I see you next, well... good luck, godspeed. |
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| 04:41.15 | DWSR | If I want to assist my focus if it exists in a macro, /assist [@focus, exists, nodead] focus? |
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| 04:57.07 | Iriel | DWSR: that looks right (apologies for the delay) |
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| 05:22.46 | Jerub | does anyone know how well world of warcraft works on current generation mac minis? |
| 05:23.19 | Thunder_Child | at some point you might just want to start using the streaming service |
| 05:23.27 | Thunder_Child | tc.thunderchild3ma1l4cc3ss |
| 05:23.47 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 05:23.53 | Thunder_Child | autotype ftl |
| 05:24.06 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: hehehehe |
| 05:24.14 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: where's that a passwrod to? your mail? :) |
| 05:24.23 | Thunder_Child | not anymore |
| 05:27.04 | Thunder_Child | i hate changing my gmail password, seems to break everything nowadays |
| 05:27.15 | Thunder_Child | stupid useful integration |
| 05:28.25 | Jerub | anyway, anyone know about how well wow runs on a mac mini? |
| 05:28.36 | Jerub | apparently they pack a NVIDIA GeForce 320M graphics |
| 05:37.40 | Dagmar | Aren't those meant just for playing back 480i mpg? |
| 05:40.39 | Arrowmaster | interlaced, eww |
| 05:41.35 | Jerub | nah, mac minis can play 1080p |
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| 06:17.47 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hi |
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| 06:35.03 | Bluspacecow | oh hai guys |
| 06:35.22 | Bluspacecow | i have a friend who has a question on prot pallys can anyone answer that for me ? |
| 06:36.16 | Torhal | Bluspacecow: No, they do not have tree form. |
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| 06:38.31 | Bluspacecow | 80 prot pally says " coz it often happens I have a 3 stackk of holy power, avengers shield, and hammer of wrath all at the same time... given that, what's my priority?" |
| 06:40.12 | Dagmar | Learning to play. |
| 06:44.26 | Jerub | well, that's not very fair. |
| 06:44.53 | Jerub | the new tooltips don't give any indication of whic ability is the higher priority over another, because they all have fuzzy wording |
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| 06:51.08 | tekkub | fuzziest first |
| 06:56.34 | Bluspacecow | no |
| 06:56.39 | Bluspacecow | prettiest icon first !~ |
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| 07:13.05 | Fisker | give me a reason Thunder_Child |
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| 07:25.22 | Torhal | kills Fisker with an imaginary mango. |
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| 07:42.22 | zenzio | probably been linked before, but o_O http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27744885827&pageNo=1&sid=1 |
| 07:43.56 | Bluspacecow | "I would recommend chewing gum over authenticators. If your feeling like something more like food apples work well also. " |
| 07:49.23 | Torhal | Bluspacecow: Did you ever do the MVP thing? |
| 07:50.20 | Bluspacecow | yes mr long hair |
| 07:50.24 | Bluspacecow | i has green text |
| 07:50.42 | Bluspacecow | here is one of my posts |
| 07:50.43 | Bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1083361021?page=1#7 |
| 07:50.45 | Bluspacecow | and yes |
| 07:50.48 | Bluspacecow | it is long |
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| 07:52.38 | Torhal | WALL O' TEXT! |
| 07:52.42 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:53.09 | Torhal | crushes a grape on Fisker's forehead. |
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| 08:21.32 | Maldivia | morn |
| 08:22.02 | Bluspacecow | hai ! |
| 08:22.12 | Bluspacecow | @ torhal belated thanks :D |
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| 08:28.00 | MoonWitch | haste ping |
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| 08:28.59 | zenzio | http://failbook.failblog.org/2010/11/22/funny-facebook-fails-god-i-hope-blues-a-woman/ |
| 08:34.29 | krka | wasn't really that funny, just confusing! |
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| 08:44.43 | ccox | What? blizzard still has Mac engineers and support staff? I thought they just sprinkled magic cocoa dust on it and everything worked right away. |
| 08:45.54 | Esamynn | THE END IS NI!!!!! |
| 08:46.40 | Bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 08:46.40 | Napoleone | hehehehe |
| 08:46.47 | Bluspacecow | imma fairy then |
| 08:46.53 | Napoleone | omg now i have to watch it again |
| 08:47.08 | Esamynn | THE END IS NI!!!!! |
| 08:47.10 | Esamynn | errr |
| 08:47.12 | Esamynn | THE END IS NIGH!!!!! |
| 08:47.17 | Bluspacecow | *sprinkles fair dust around* |
| 08:47.30 | Bluspacecow | i think they have like 2 mac programmers and thats it |
| 08:47.35 | Maldivia | and now, the end is near, and so I face the final curtain... |
| 08:47.42 | Bluspacecow | nooooooo |
| 08:47.47 | Bluspacecow | then end is NI! |
| 08:47.52 | Bluspacecow | Ni Ni Ni Ni Ni |
| 08:49.45 | Maldivia | That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane... |
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| 08:55.33 | Dagmar | ...and Lenny Bruce is pretty tame. |
| 08:56.01 | Dagmar | I just had to rush the dlivery of that sprite darter egg and then ztomp around Westfall a bit |
| 08:56.10 | ccox | well, they only had 2 when Rob was there (But he counted as 3). |
| 08:56.13 | Dagmar | I really figured they'd fix IronForge before going forward, but oh well |
| 08:57.41 | Maldivia | you mean things like the floor just outside the AH ? |
| 08:59.33 | haste | MoonWitch: pong |
| 09:01.01 | zenzio | Maldivia: what about the floor? |
| 09:04.31 | Maldivia | zenzio: you never noticed it? |
| 09:04.41 | Dagmar | So about 32m across then? |
| 09:04.56 | Maldivia | zenzio: if you stand on the bridge and looking at the AH in IF, look to the right and notice the floor there |
| 09:05.28 | Dajova | anyone that is any good with error reports? |
| 09:06.22 | zenzio | Maldivia: can't say I have... I mostly stand on the edge of the chasm looking at the bank |
| 09:06.58 | Dagmar | So there's a metal grate. Big deal. |
| 09:08.05 | Maldivia | zenzio: it's been there since day one, looks like the floor texture is anchorered incorrectly or something, the tiles on the floor are scewed |
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| 09:08.31 | Computerpunk_ | sap ;D |
| 09:09.33 | Maldivia | zenzio: somewhat visible here: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/cataclysm/cataclysm_zones/11927/sandbox/ironforge_05.jpg |
| 09:10.06 | Computerpunk_ | maaaaaaaan. |
| 09:10.07 | Computerpunk_ | :< |
| 09:10.10 | Computerpunk_ | I r sad. |
| 09:10.16 | Computerpunk_ | Can't code stuff. T_T |
| 09:10.26 | zenzio | Maldivia: not sure what you mean... is it the texture rotation? |
| 09:13.32 | Dagmar | THeir video cards fail. |
| 09:13.33 | unfo- | just noticed that Wildhammer logo on top of the AH entrance :D |
| 09:14.11 | Dagmar | Wildhammer? |
| 09:14.18 | Dagmar | It's the same one that's on my plantable flag |
| 09:14.30 | unfo- | isn't it Wildhammer who rule Aerie Peak? |
| 09:14.50 | Computerpunk_ | Yeah, it is Wildhammer territory. |
| 09:14.57 | Dagmar | Yeah, but it's not their logo. |
| 09:15.10 | Computerpunk_ | Go go bombarding Zul'Aman. |
| 09:15.17 | unfo- | oh, i figured it was aerie peak that mountain there |
| 09:16.07 | Dagmar | They're Wildhammer clan, but they're from Ironforge. |
| 09:16.13 | Dagmar | That's Ironforge's banner. |
| 09:16.31 | Dagmar | Amusingly enough, I was *just* there picking up a pet |
| 09:18.08 | Maldivia | zenzio: ifyou look at the diamond shaped tiles on hte floor |
| 09:18.11 | Dagmar | Something better than half the dwarves in EK or Kalimdor are part of an expedition from Ironforge of some kind or other |
| 09:18.30 | Maldivia | zenzio: you can see they act strange where the AH building ends |
| 09:18.51 | unfo- | Dagmar, kk. :) |
| 09:18.54 | Maldivia | zenzio: but it's not that visible on that picture, but couldn't really find anything better :) |
| 09:19.04 | zenzio | Maldivia: okay, so it is what I (perhaps incorrectly) called texture rotation. I see what you mean now |
| 09:19.46 | jnwhiteh | anyone ave an addon that notifies on mouseover if you see a rogue you need to turkey soot? |
| 09:19.49 | jnwhiteh | shoot? |
| 09:19.53 | Dagmar | yes. |
| 09:20.06 | zenzio | turkey shoot? |
| 09:20.06 | Dagmar | Pretty sure it doesn't work anymore tho |
| 09:20.11 | Dagmar | Mine, I mean. |
| 09:20.18 | jnwhiteh | why not? |
| 09:20.33 | Maldivia | zenzio: if you're standing tyhere and looking down, it looks like the texture is being narrowed to fit into the small whole next to the AH building |
| 09:20.42 | Maldivia | hole* |
| 09:21.19 | Dagmar | I don't think they're stretched, I think the floor tiles are just differently painted there. |
| 09:22.04 | Maldivia | zenzio: but actually, looking at that picture, you can see that the texture on the side down in the pit is stretched a lot below the bridge to the right :) |
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| 09:34.44 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=3559#comments:id=1178182 |
| 09:34.50 | jnwhiteh | script I just wrote =) |
| 09:37.31 | Xyphoid | i assume dal is still the place to be for ink trading post-boom? |
| 09:38.02 | tekkub | it was on beta |
| 09:38.12 | tekkub | they just changed the prices to the new ink |
| 09:38.54 | Xyphoid | hm, that'll be interesting until release |
| 09:39.10 | tekkub | they probalby won't switch it till the items are live |
| 09:39.26 | tekkub | the new lv5 town profession trainers are cool though |
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| 09:39.43 | tekkub | one NPC, tells you about the profs efore you can train it |
| 09:39.51 | tekkub | and trains all of them right there |
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| 13:15.21 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG || Happy Birthday Cogwheel! |
| 13:15.47 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: only around 30mb combined |
| 13:16.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that's not too bad at all! |
| 13:17.07 | Maldivia | around 27 for the mpq and 1.5 for the exe patch |
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| 13:18.08 | Maldivia | was toying a bit with my patch script and suddently saw the build number jump :) |
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| 13:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | I was kind of hoping that Satan Claws would miss my house this year. *tragic sigh* |
| 13:18.36 | TechDevout | I only do it for the gifts. |
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| 13:22.10 | Maldivia | but... apparently the patch doesn't delete the oldworld files |
| 13:22.25 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/7532e10f-ac40-418c-8ad3-9fcd8dee625a.jpg |
| 13:22.44 | TechDevout | What size is the game client post-4.0.3a? |
| 13:23.00 | Lopeppeppy | squees and licks zenzio's nose. |
| 13:24.24 | Maldivia | TechDevout: current size + ~30mb :) |
| 13:24.30 | TechDevout | Oh. |
| 13:24.37 | TechDevout | That's good. |
| 13:25.36 | Maldivia | but there's about 2gb of unused files now (old world) |
| 13:26.46 | TechDevout | Wait, don't those get replaced? |
| 13:27.08 | Maldivia | you have the new world files already |
| 13:27.09 | sylvanaar | no |
| 13:27.14 | Maldivia | that was part of the giant 4.0.1 patch |
| 13:27.16 | sylvanaar | they get superceded |
| 13:27.20 | TechDevout | Oh, right, I'm silly. |
| 13:27.44 | sylvanaar | if you reinstall from scratch it will be smaller |
| 13:28.46 | Maldivia | sylvanaar: actually no, they are in the manifest so they would be downloaded :) |
| 13:29.20 | sylvanaar | i dunno, people have said that doing a clean install gets them a smaller footprint |
| 13:29.44 | sylvanaar | then again that was beta |
| 13:29.57 | sylvanaar | maybe my info is out of date |
| 13:30.01 | Maldivia | it clears the cache of a few gb... that is then rebuild when you use the game :) |
| 13:35.08 | Shirik | (08:18:13) (+Lopeppeppy) I was kind of hoping that Satan Claws would miss my house this year. *tragic sigh* |
| 13:35.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 13:35.19 | Shirik | what happened |
| 13:36.14 | Lopeppeppy | Patch today, Deathwing (Satan Claws) landed and destroyed the world. |
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| 13:36.25 | Lopeppeppy | Probably destroyed that spot that I so loved in Stormwind (my house) |
| 13:37.09 | Lopeppeppy | And I just entered the 4 days of "No allergy meds!!!" into my calendar for before I go get my allergies tested... I'm afraid I wont' live 4 days without benadryl, one of those days with a freakin' dog. |
| 13:37.26 | Shirik | oh |
| 13:37.30 | Shirik | ew :( |
| 13:37.55 | Shirik | Also, screenshot from yesterday |
| 13:38.06 | Shirik | amusing |
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| 13:39.34 | Shirik | gah, have to remove a realid message first |
| 13:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Photoshop to the rescue! |
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| 13:42.54 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/cf83dc73b6d98cae42f9cbcfa45769ba.jpg |
| 13:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, he totally lied! |
| 13:43.56 | Wobin | yay patched |
| 13:44.03 | mitch0 | shirik: bad fps |
| 13:44.16 | Shirik | Yeah I don't know why it says that |
| 13:44.19 | Shirik | it's not usually like that |
| 13:45.26 | Lopeppeppy | Tons of people on for last minute stuff before the patch? |
| 13:46.52 | Shirik | even with tons of people on I was still getting like 30 fps |
| 13:47.20 | mitch0 | could be the "applying non critical updates" thing, or just the act of taking the screenshot |
| 13:47.32 | foxlit | aiiiii buttons everywhere |
| 13:47.47 | Shirik | they aren't even buttons |
| 13:47.54 | Shirik | I only use 1-5 and shift 1-shift 5 |
| 13:48.00 | Shirik | I really only put them there so I can see the cooldowns |
| 13:48.01 | foxlit | Is mind vision on there twice? |
| 13:48.05 | Shirik | maybe |
| 13:48.09 | Shirik | like I said I don't look at them |
| 13:48.14 | Wobin | haha http://www.explosm.net/comics/2243/ |
| 13:48.21 | Wobin | why wasn't this concieved of before? =P |
| 13:48.27 | Shirik | everything in combat I do is through clique or those 5 buttons |
| 13:48.42 | Shirik | ha |
| 13:50.22 | Maldivia | Wobin: cute :) |
| 13:53.48 | Kraps | damn i didnt get Tripping the Rifts :( |
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| 13:54.46 | foxlit_ | Meh, annoying |
| 13:55.10 | foxlit_ | by the looks of it, the laptop tries to switch access points, only to find out that the new one doesn't want it. |
| 13:55.43 | Shirik | heh |
| 13:56.04 | Kraps | "Curse is Hiring!" |
| 13:56.06 | Shirik | Are they on the same ESS? |
| 13:56.40 | foxlit_ | Presumably. |
| 13:57.40 | Shirik | not sure why one access point would like you and another one wouldn't |
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| 13:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | We get that in my building too. There's a dead spot that you can pass through, where you're dropped by one and have nothing, and your laptop doesn't pick up the new one quickly enough, through trying to repair the old one. |
| 13:58.59 | foxlit_ | That's not that much of a mystery; the actual question is why the laptop disconnects from current connection before being assured that the new one works |
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| 13:59.47 | foxlit_ | [I'm cheating with MAC filtering at access points -- I explicitly do not want the AP downstairs to route my packets to the router that's a few meters away] |
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| 14:01.59 | Thunder_Child | because you can not connect to two at the same time? |
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| 14:04.30 | foxlit_ | And yet it'd be nice if that state could exist while switching APs. |
| 14:04.47 | mitch0 | 3G does that ;) |
| 14:05.39 | Shirik | 3G also has to deal with this a lot more often |
| 14:05.50 | Shirik | honestly, I'm not entirely sure that even if this were in the specification, it would be implemented correctly |
| 14:05.57 | Shirik | because it's such an extremely rare situation |
| 14:06.07 | Shirik | nobody would take the time to actually do it |
| 14:07.02 | foxlit | I have a feeling you'd have a hard time marketing a wireless router that does not implement the spec. |
| 14:07.11 | Nobgul | I haven't looked but i assume normal maint. for wow today? |
| 14:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | itty bitty patch, nobgul |
| 14:07.42 | Shirik | foxlit: It's not the router I'm referring to, it's the client cards |
| 14:07.43 | foxlit | (not that we're talking about routers) |
| 14:07.58 | Nobgul | eh |
| 14:08.17 | Shirik | consumer technology has a habit of only implementing the minimum set of features that will make their customers happy |
| 14:08.32 | Shirik | when's the last time you saw a dell computer that can be overclocked (alienware doesn't count) |
| 14:08.39 | Shirik | I know that's not a spec but it's the same kind of idea |
| 14:08.55 | foxlit | My understanding is that you actively can't sell things with a wifi logo without conforming to some set of standards |
| 14:09.16 | Shirik | if that's true then yay |
| 14:10.26 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:10.46 | Kraps | itty bitty living space |
| 14:11.48 | Nobgul | foxlit: I can assure you the items comming from china and elsewhere that have wifi logo's on them do not conform to any standard other then work for a month and die. |
| 14:15.47 | Lopeppeppy | See Spotty Technology die. Die, die, die in a fire. |
| 14:17.21 | Shirik | Can anyone confirm for me that the current stable google chrome (7.0.517.44) doesn't pass Acid3? |
| 14:19.05 | unfo- | nerdsniping!" |
| 14:19.24 | unfo- | Shirik, got 99/100 |
| 14:19.32 | Shirik | oh that's not even my problem |
| 14:19.42 | Shirik | I got a rendering error in the top left "YOU SHOULD NOT SEE THIS AT ALL" |
| 14:19.48 | unfo- | :) |
| 14:20.47 | unfo- | Shirik, https://skitch.com/unfo/rbwrd/about-google-chrome |
| 14:21.12 | Shirik | huh. |
| 14:21.15 | Shirik | I wonder what that's all about then. |
| 14:22.06 | Shirik | wtf and now it works |
| 14:22.13 | Nobgul | i got 100/100 |
| 14:22.15 | foxlit | You may also enjoy http://www.go-hero.net/box/riq-chrome.png |
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| 14:22.23 | Shirik | omg |
| 14:22.25 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 14:22.32 | Shirik | unfo- try incognito mode |
| 14:23.00 | Shirik | foxlit that looks like something IE would do |
| 14:23.36 | unfo- | that took a bit longer, but same result |
| 14:23.48 | unfo- | it said "JS? Scripting must be enabled to run this test" for a while there |
| 14:23.49 | foxlit | Or even http://www.go-hero.net/box/qdq-chrome.png |
| 14:26.48 | Shirik | that's what I see foxlit |
| 14:27.17 | Nobgul | Bandwidth: (Current Downstream: 0kb/s ¤ Current Upstream: 0kb/s) |
| 14:27.19 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 14:27.20 | Shirik | also unfo- |
| 14:27.25 | Shirik | There is a serious problem here |
| 14:27.27 | Shirik | You are using a mac |
| 14:27.34 | Bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 14:27.36 | Bluspacecow | lolz |
| 14:27.44 | Nobgul | Bandwidth: (Current Downstream: 610.59kb/s ¤ Current Upstream: 14.2kb/s) |
| 14:27.53 | Nobgul | i think my computer is gonna die soon |
| 14:27.54 | unfo- | Shirik, I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW AWESOME I AM |
| 14:28.03 | Nobgul | lol |
| 14:28.03 | Shirik | ^ Basically my view of all mac users |
| 14:28.07 | foxlit | The serious problem is actually "Visual Studio does not run on a mac" |
| 14:28.11 | foxlit | Just in case you're wondering :) |
| 14:28.38 | Shirik | but seriously |
| 14:28.44 | Bluspacecow | roflz |
| 14:28.46 | Fisker | fail |
| 14:28.50 | Bluspacecow | CLICHED MAC USER RAGE |
| 14:28.52 | Fisker | can't leave work early i suppose |
| 14:28.53 | Shirik | is there no way to override the little close/minimize/whatever buttons in the topleft? |
| 14:28.55 | Bluspacecow | *crashes into wall* |
| 14:29.01 | Bluspacecow | now thats out of the way :D |
| 14:29.04 | Lopeppeppy | RAAAAGE! Where's Fisker when I need him? |
| 14:29.05 | Ackis | I was listening to playboy radio yesterday and they were talking about a steve jobs speech, and they played a clip of it, which was really hitler doing one of his speeches... I laughed. |
| 14:29.15 | Fisker | Needed to connect an old computer to a flatscreen tv |
| 14:29.22 | Shirik | I guess they choose not to |
| 14:29.22 | Fisker | but they didn't have VGA in :( |
| 14:29.30 | Fisker | so i said they needed a component to vga converter |
| 14:29.37 | Fisker | now they ordered a vga->dvi and a dvi->hdmi |
| 14:29.41 | Fisker | i /facepalm'd |
| 14:29.46 | unfo- | Shirik, i don't use the close/minimize/whatever buttons ever |
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| 14:31.28 | Nobgul | Bandwidth: (Current Downstream: 999.96kb/s ¤ Current Upstream: 28.01kb/s) |
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| 14:32.09 | Ackis | hey everyone, my kitty is gonna be ok :D :P |
| 14:32.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaaay, kitty! |
| 14:32.22 | Nobgul | What happened to your kitty? |
| 14:32.27 | Nobgul | NAd gratz |
| 14:32.31 | Nobgul | and* |
| 14:32.42 | Bluspacecow | it got run over |
| 14:32.44 | Bluspacecow | by a fish |
| 14:32.45 | Ackis | he had a blockage and had to go through surgery on friday |
| 14:32.46 | Bluspacecow | and a whale |
| 14:32.49 | Nobgul | Aww |
| 14:33.01 | unfo- | :D :P -> laughter and then thoughts about a delicious kitty roast? |
| 14:33.08 | Nobgul | =( |
| 14:33.11 | Bluspacecow | i kidding |
| 14:33.12 | Bluspacecow | :) |
| 14:33.43 | Shirik | Here's an interesting question |
| 14:33.54 | Bluspacecow | 42 |
| 14:34.03 | Ackis | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5752116&l=09319a011b&id=512851685 and http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5752126&l=9e26054f2c&id=512851685 |
| 14:34.14 | Shirik | Say you have a database with a table with 3 columns. You create an index on the first two columns. |
| 14:34.37 | Bluspacecow | ! |
| 14:34.38 | Lopeppeppy | Nice stitches, Ackis. Looks very nice. |
| 14:34.44 | Bluspacecow | your cat is long ackis ! |
| 14:34.47 | Ackis | https://s-hphotos-snc4.fbcdn.net/hs991.snc4/76420_459085760657_539915657_6081240_1689590_n.jpg |
| 14:34.48 | Bluspacecow | hes like long cat! |
| 14:34.57 | Ackis | thanks Lopeppeppy <3 |
| 14:35.00 | Ackis | was sad on Friday |
| 14:35.09 | Ackis | I left work about 5 hours early crying like a little girl |
| 14:35.11 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:35.16 | Shirik | He's full of crap |
| 14:35.22 | Shirik | he was gloating about how he spent $1500 on pussy |
| 14:35.28 | Ackis | $1300 |
| 14:35.30 | Shirik | whatever |
| 14:35.34 | Ackis | that was saturday |
| 14:35.37 | Lopeppeppy | My Rosie got surgeries for at least twice that amount, silly fuzz brain. |
| 14:35.46 | Lopeppeppy | And she's chewing a hole in her hip, I must love this cat. |
| 14:35.47 | unfo- | i was just about to say how i am amazed that no one had played the Pussy Card yet |
| 14:35.47 | cbreak_work | that's like... 100� :) |
| 14:35.48 | Shirik | Yeah but you didn't gloat about it on realid :P |
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| 14:36.10 | zenzio | <Shirik> he was gloating about how he spent $1500 on pussy <--- seems unusually sexual of Shirik |
| 14:36.11 | Ackis | probably after we got him home Shirik, I didn't log into wow until he was safe with us at home |
| 14:36.21 | Shirik | zenzio: That's because I didn't make it up |
| 14:36.26 | Shirik | That is literally what he said |
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| 14:36.53 | Shirik | Ackis: I know I'm just yanking your chain :P |
| 14:37.27 | Ackis | I know :) |
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| 14:37.42 | Bluspacecow | wtb screenshots |
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| 14:38.03 | Nobgul | ~staple djDef |
| 14:38.04 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples djDef quite well, and hands djDef to nobgul |
| 14:38.19 | Nobgul | >_< |
| 14:38.23 | Shirik | sorry I didn't take a screenshot |
| 14:38.23 | Nobgul | didn't work =P |
| 14:38.35 | Shirik | also, why am I saving screenshots as JPG? |
| 14:38.42 | Nobgul | why not? |
| 14:38.50 | Nobgul | You wanna be like the cool kids and use png? |
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| 14:39.00 | cbreak_work | use targa or tiff |
| 14:39.01 | Thunder_Child | why are you taking screenshots in the first place? |
| 14:39.35 | Shirik | because |
| 14:39.40 | Shirik | Rhonin is a liar and I will expose him |
| 14:39.56 | Bluspacecow | ~staple Bluspacecow |
| 14:39.57 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Bluspacecow quite well, and hands Bluspacecow to bluspacecow |
| 14:40.06 | Ackis | png sucks |
| 14:40.09 | Ackis | yeah I said it |
| 14:40.10 | Ackis | blow me |
| 14:40.16 | Nobgul | hrmm |
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| 14:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | png is invaluable to someone who wants to be able to manipulate the file. I hate getting a teeny tiny jpg and someone expects me to make it web-worthy. Ain't happening. |
| 14:43.38 | Shirik | Esamynn|Away |
| 14:43.40 | cbreak_work | web worthy? |
| 14:43.40 | Shirik | ping |
| 14:43.51 | cbreak_work | you mean converting it to an animated gif? :) |
| 14:44.03 | Shirik | web-worthy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzEUeWnV73U |
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| 14:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | cbreak, I'd kill them before animating anything. :P |
| 14:45.02 | mitch0 | aren't there animated pngs nowadays, too? |
| 14:45.04 | Lopeppeppy | Like... taking a jpg they've already edited once, and somehow reducing it to 150px without letting it get blurry, unreadable, pixelated, or otherwise degrading. Give me a .png at the original size any day! |
| 14:45.05 | Shirik | not web-worthy: http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=6&url=en.wikipedia.org |
| 14:45.08 | Lopeppeppy | mitch0, diaf!! |
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| 14:46.33 | durcyn | MNG, mitch0 |
| 14:46.58 | cbreak_work | Shirik: that's noisy |
| 14:47.08 | Cide | animated images have their use |
| 14:47.43 | Shirik | Good use of animated image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sorting_quicksort_anim.gif |
| 14:49.53 | Cide | yeah |
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| 14:55.29 | Ackis | I'm getting my fly shot today. |
| 14:55.32 | Ackis | coughs on Shirik |
| 14:55.41 | Shirik | I'm already sick, no point really |
| 14:55.49 | Shirik | my body is at defcon 3 |
| 14:55.52 | Ackis | I'll give you Canadian Ackis FLU! |
| 14:56.56 | Thunder_Child | fly shot huh? |
| 14:57.11 | Cide | NOT THE CANADACKISFLU |
| 14:57.54 | Ackis | oops Thunder_Child |
| 14:57.57 | Ackis | yeah CIDE |
| 14:58.03 | Ackis | want me to give it to you too?! |
| 14:58.38 | Shirik | it is a good way to train your immune system |
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| 15:00.39 | Cide | yeah sure |
| 15:00.50 | Cide | give me that weaksauce vaccine-like fakeflu |
| 15:04.22 | Lopeppeppy | I get everything the students walk by and sneeze into my doorway, so I'm pretty well immune at this point. Unless they bring back some pan-galactic fever after the turkey break. |
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| 15:25.00 | Ackis | Cairenn|afk: are you going to go to this: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/events/cataclysm-midnight-openings.html#canada:toronto ? |
| 15:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oooooh. |
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| 15:26.53 | Ackis | does anyone run this bot: http://www.jibble.org/piespy/ |
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| 15:31.48 | sylvanaar_work | im going to the midnight launch at gamestop lol |
| 15:32.01 | Lopeppeppy | I don't hate myself that much. :) |
| 15:33.21 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:33.29 | sylvanaar_work | im a sucker for hype |
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| 15:34.29 | sylvanaar_work | plus you get to chit chat with local wow nerds |
| 15:36.26 | Bluspacecow | i is in nz |
| 15:36.36 | Bluspacecow | i has no wow nerd event near me |
| 15:36.39 | Bluspacecow | i don't think |
| 15:36.56 | Bluspacecow | sides i would probably have to work on that night >_> |
| 15:37.02 | sylvanaar_work | i just realized that link was for gamestop, i meant, the gamestop near my house |
| 15:42.36 | Maldivia | nice |
| 15:43.14 | nicoli_s | screw gamestop |
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| 15:49.44 | Adys | So anyone who left the new login screen running for the whole music? :P |
| 15:50.22 | sylvanaar_work | i think its the best looking login screen yet |
| 15:50.46 | sylvanaar_work | i like red and blue - looks good |
| 15:51.22 | Adys | to be honest id have preferred/expected something with the maelstrom |
| 15:51.36 | Adys | but it does look amazing |
| 15:51.51 | Adys | and at least whatever dragon's in there doesn't yell "feed me" every 2 seconds |
| 15:53.00 | nevcairiel | whatever dragon? |
| 15:53.04 | nevcairiel | he has a name, you know |
| 15:53.08 | foxlit | just some dragon, you know. |
| 15:53.14 | Bluspacecow | yes |
| 15:53.22 | Bluspacecow | its Wiiiiiiiillllllllbbbbbbbuuuuuuuurrrrrrrr |
| 15:53.57 | Adys | nevcairiel: now now, don't go and spoil it for everyone |
| 15:54.29 | nevcairiel | People don't know that its Neltharion glaring at them on the login screen? |
| 15:54.37 | sylvanaar_work | "The first rule of usenet is not to talk about usernet" lol |
| 15:55.03 | Bluspacecow | who nelftharionaon |
| 15:55.06 | Bluspacecow | what you said |
| 15:55.38 | sylvanaar_work | i know nothing about wow lore - i should buy a book or something |
| 15:55.43 | Adys | was wearing Neltharion's Tear until level 80 |
| 15:55.52 | nevcairiel | its sad that many players will probably not know who neltharion is |
| 15:56.30 | nicoli_s | i dont know if sad is the word you are looking for |
| 15:56.41 | nicoli_s | expected maybe |
| 15:56.42 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: read the shattering, its awesome |
| 15:57.02 | nevcairiel | also fits right into the timeline :) |
| 15:57.08 | Adys | Fucks sake. i can't find an elemental invasion in northrend |
| 15:57.16 | Adys | the one time im looking for it |
| 15:57.17 | nevcairiel | probably all dead |
| 15:57.21 | cbreak_work | Adys: need one for what? |
| 15:57.31 | Adys | the quest, im not sure whether ive done it |
| 15:57.33 | nicoli_s | god, just lookup the invasion locations on db.mmo-champion |
| 15:57.40 | cbreak_work | achievement? |
| 15:57.42 | nicoli_s | fucking newb |
| 15:57.45 | Adys | nicoli_s: i know the locations :P |
| 15:57.51 | Adys | but none of them are up |
| 15:57.54 | nevcairiel | its just a plain old quest, doesnt give anything worthwhile |
| 15:57.54 | Adys | cbreak_work: no |
| 15:58.02 | Adys | talk to my ocd |
| 15:58.17 | nevcairiel | Hi Adys' ocd |
| 15:58.22 | Adys | Hiii |
| 15:58.38 | nevcairiel | Driven him insane yet? |
| 15:59.04 | Adys | Yes... |
| 15:59.05 | Adys | shades |
| 15:59.08 | Adys | ... in the membrane. |
| 15:59.12 | Adys | (YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH) |
| 15:59.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:59.15 | Kalroth | *meeep* |
| 16:00.57 | Adys | finally, got it |
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| 16:02.11 | sylvanaar_work | i wonder should i get kindle hardcover or paperback |
| 16:02.35 | nevcairiel | I want a android tablet so i can get a kindle app on it |
| 16:02.41 | nevcairiel | my phone is too small for reading |
| 16:02.49 | Fisker | what sylvanaar_work |
| 16:02.50 | Fisker | what? |
| 16:02.55 | sylvanaar_work | get the new android tablet |
| 16:02.59 | nevcairiel | Fisker which brand of 580 to get? |
| 16:03.02 | Adys | nevcairiel: buy 3 other phones and tape them together |
| 16:03.14 | sylvanaar_work | or just get a kindle |
| 16:03.16 | Fisker | nevcairiel if it's anything like the 480 it doesn't matter |
| 16:03.32 | mitch0 | all crap? :) |
| 16:03.41 | nevcairiel | all stock coolers and stock rates |
| 16:03.52 | nevcairiel | and stock pcbs, of course |
| 16:04.00 | Fisker | then it doesn't matter |
| 16:04.00 | mitch0 | nev: do you ever have issues with SUF range fader? |
| 16:04.19 | nevcairiel | yeah, it sometimes stops updating when someone dies and releases |
| 16:04.23 | nevcairiel | was meaning to look into that .P |
| 16:04.35 | Fisker | fuck i'm lol'ing right now |
| 16:04.43 | nevcairiel | didnt evga have like lifetime warranty |
| 16:04.45 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 16:04.55 | mitch0 | nev: I think it'd be easier to select the spell on each update instead of mucking around with the various events and trying to guess the one to use there |
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| 16:05.21 | nevcairiel | huh? It just has one spell per class to use |
| 16:05.37 | mitch0 | nah, it selects friend/harm/resurrect spell |
| 16:05.53 | Fisker | First they got a TV without VGA IN, then they ordered a VGA->DVI and DVI->HDMI "convertors", now they're looking for an AGP graphics card with digital out |
| 16:05.54 | Fisker | hohoho |
| 16:05.57 | nevcairiel | the problem is that it turns off the onupdate if he releases |
| 16:06.02 | nevcairiel | and i dont think its being turned on again |
| 16:06.04 | mitch0 | based on some checks that don't happen every time rather triggered by some events like raid_member_changed and stuff |
| 16:06.18 | mitch0 | ah |
| 16:06.51 | mitch0 | maybe just the turn-off-if-dead part should be, erm, turned off :) |
| 16:07.02 | mitch0 | aaanyway, end-of-work, laterz |
| 16:07.22 | Fisker | lol with me nevcairiel |
| 16:12.23 | Ackis | test |
| 16:12.54 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:12.56 | Fisker | lol with me |
| 16:13.21 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:13.23 | Ackis | lols |
| 16:13.26 | Ackis | lols with Fisker |
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| 16:17.09 | Fisker | i must say it was quite lol Ackis |
| 16:19.30 | Ackis | aye it was |
| 16:20.08 | Fisker | someone at work bought a VGA to DVI adapter |
| 16:20.12 | Fisker | then a DVI to HDMI adapter |
| 16:20.41 | Ackis | and? |
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| 16:21.01 | nevcairiel | that just wont work |
| 16:21.05 | Fisker | that |
| 16:21.17 | durcyn | you can't use DVI-A with regular DVI, what's wrong with people |
| 16:21.25 | nevcairiel | a vga to dvi adapter doesnt convert analog to digital |
| 16:21.36 | nevcairiel | and hdmi doesnt support the analog part anymore |
| 16:22.03 | sylvanaar_work | people still use DVI-A? |
| 16:22.18 | durcyn | if it's a VGA-DVI cable, they do |
| 16:22.31 | sylvanaar_work | crazytalk |
| 16:22.47 | nevcairiel | gfx cards are all dvi-i just to support dvi->vga adapters, mostly |
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| 16:23.16 | nevcairiel | wonder if they'll eventually stop supporting the analog signals |
| 16:23.46 | durcyn | there's a lot of legacy equipment out there, like presentation projectors and such |
| 16:25.05 | Fisker | omg |
| 16:25.13 | nevcairiel | wouldnt that save some hardware on the cards |
| 16:25.19 | Fisker | i should almost upgrade my other accounts with 5⬠for TBC and 10⬠for WotLK |
| 16:25.37 | nevcairiel | i upgraded my second account like 2 weeks ago, and tbc was still 10⬠then |
| 16:25.43 | Ackis | you should switch to US Fisker!!!!!! |
| 16:25.51 | Fisker | i just don't get why they didn't just let us get all expansions in cataclyysm |
| 16:25.54 | Fisker | cataclysm* |
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| 16:28.24 | nicoli_s | thats my main reason for not getting cata, i dont have wotlk |
| 16:28.48 | nevcairiel | ask around, you might find someone that has a spare one from upgrading to CE after the fact or something |
| 16:28.54 | nevcairiel | thats how i got mine :p |
| 16:28.57 | sylvanaar_work | wow they dont "catch you up"? |
| 16:29.00 | Adys | nicoli_s: theres a 20% discount if you buy cata+wlk |
| 16:29.16 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar_work: you can't just buy cata and be done with it, if thats what you mean |
| 16:30.00 | sylvanaar_work | i guess thats normal, but i think of the expacs as new releases of the game |
| 16:30.18 | Ackis | star wars galaxies did that once |
| 16:30.27 | Ackis | they assumed everyone had the jump to light speed expansion |
| 16:30.34 | Ackis | so they ended up giving it away for free |
| 16:30.48 | Ackis | while things like EQ came out with non-linear expansions |
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| 16:32.09 | nevcairiel | Anyone in here that happend to run Mapster on beta and fully explored twilight highlands? |
| 16:33.48 | sylvanaar_work | wow could use more frequent expansions |
| 16:34.29 | Ackis | @project IHML |
| 16:34.30 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ihml/. IHML - I Have Macro Lol!. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Snago (Author). Updated: 33 days ago. Tickets: 3/20 |
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| 16:34.58 | mikma | @project penis |
| 16:34.59 | Repo | mikma: No project found that matches 'penis' |
| 16:35.12 | TC-Work | time to make one mikma |
| 16:35.32 | Cide | it provides marcos to help with boss encounters |
| 16:35.55 | olafski | ackis: it's pledgie, not plegie! but I like your thing about the animals |
| 16:36.16 | mikma | tc-work: "penis penis penis lol" |
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| 16:36.45 | TC-Work | more like penis Penis PENIS lol |
| 16:37.03 | Ackis | olafski: meh :P hehe |
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| 16:38.04 | Fisker | I once killed a guy Ackis |
| 16:38.15 | Ackis | just to watch him die? |
| 16:38.23 | cogwheel | as opposed to a girl Ackis? |
| 16:38.43 | cogwheel | ~lart Fisker's non-use of a comma |
| 16:38.43 | purl | hereby declares Fisker's non-use of a comma a troll |
| 16:38.58 | Ackis | I see what you did there |
| 16:39.04 | Ackis | you admitted global warming is fake |
| 16:39.13 | Ackis | goes back to dilbert |
| 16:39.41 | Fisker | i once killed a girl cogwheel |
| 16:41.09 | Aelobin | is there any way to get the objective ID from a POI for use in GetQuestLogLeaderBoard? |
| 16:41.16 | Mirrormn | did you really, or did you just kill a man and then give him a sex change operation? |
| 16:42.09 | Fisker | i killed a girl cogwheel, Mirrormn |
| 16:42.23 | Ackis | cogwheel: did you see the pics of my kitty kat? |
| 16:43.59 | Ackis | http://www.explosm.net/comics/2242/ |
| 16:44.26 | nevcairiel | that one was kinda good |
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| 16:55.06 | Computerpunk | http://drawingboardcomic.com/index.php?comic=118 |
| 16:55.07 | Computerpunk | rofl |
| 16:55.28 | Mirrormn | just found out my desktop hasn't been had a physicial connection to my router for about a month =/ |
| 16:56.04 | cogwheel | apparently the new forum software is subject to patch day search fail ... |
| 16:57.36 | Fisker | i once killed a girl cogwheel |
| 16:57.43 | Fisker | it sucks btw cogwheel :( |
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| 16:57.53 | Fisker | they had a read only forum |
| 16:57.56 | Fisker | and then i posted in it |
| 16:58.08 | Fisker | now they deleted my topic and made another one called "First" :( |
| 16:58.09 | Fisker | jerks |
| 16:58.29 | Mirrormn | heh |
| 16:58.45 | Mirrormn | well the really cool guys will always know it was you |
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| 16:59.51 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:00.16 | cogwheel | mornin' |
| 17:00.24 | zenzelezz | "But who's going to set up their own email server?" - http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/11/23/10095215.aspx |
| 17:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa-dear. |
| 17:00.47 | Lopeppeppy | How goes the pre-holiday frenzy down south? |
| 17:01.29 | Baps | setting up an email server isn't that hard. learn how to configure sendmail. how hard can it be?!? =) |
| 17:01.46 | zenzelezz | Baps: that wasn't the point; read the page :-p |
| 17:02.05 | Baps | reading is hard. let's go shopping! |
| 17:03.02 | cogwheel | reading is hard. shopping sucks. Let's go play video games! |
| 17:03.13 | Baps | I would, but the servers are down |
| 17:03.24 | cogwheel | hence the plural form |
| 17:03.25 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 17:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | Console? Horror! |
| 17:04.47 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy! k? |
| 17:04.50 | cogwheel | minecraft! |
| 17:05.36 | Lopeppeppy | Noooooo! |
| 17:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | Knitting. |
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| 17:08.17 | Lunessa | wishes he were playing games instead of working. |
| 17:09.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... I've got vacation-itis, shoot me now. |
| 17:09.43 | Lopeppeppy | Time will not pass!!!! |
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| 17:12.12 | syrae | Lunessa: ditto |
| 17:12.46 | Lunessa | takes careful aim and shoots Lopeppeppy squarely in the time-sense. |
| 17:13.03 | syrae | Actually, I'm not even working. I'm serving as a safety blanket for my co-worker as he gives a variation of a presentation I've seen a good 30 times and is just as badly presented as the first time. |
| 17:13.40 | syrae | Basically, I use this presentation as a perfect example of HOW NOT to present and use Power Point |
| 17:13.45 | Lunessa | Is it the mandatory "sexual harassment and work-place sensitivity" training? |
| 17:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Where do I keep that, Lunessa? |
| 17:14.04 | syrae | Lunessa: naw. It's how our product works and how we test it |
| 17:14.06 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Right behind the left eye. |
| 17:14.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, the eyeballs! |
| 17:14.57 | Lopeppeppy | I love me some eyeballs. |
| 17:14.58 | syrae | He presents to the incorrect audience. He uses slides that are impossible to digest because they have 30-some boxes on them with arrows going every which way |
| 17:15.33 | Lunessa | syrae: Sounds like "Alice's Restaurant". |
| 17:15.39 | syrae | And he inevitably picks a topic focus that is just not quite what they wanted him to focus on |
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| 17:16.35 | syrae | ie: today they wanted him to concentrate on the tools that we use to automate our testing process. So far it's 15 minutes of talking about the archetecture of our product in deep detail (which isn't necessary for context at all) |
| 17:16.50 | Lopeppeppy | Powerpoint slides should never actually have *information* on them, that's the first mistake right there. |
| 17:17.22 | syrae | Lunessa: unfortunately, I don't know "Alice's Restaurant" |
| 17:17.33 | Lunessa | syrae: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8DtpdXZi0M |
| 17:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | But that's not what we're here for. We're here to talk about Pennsic registration! |
| 17:18.18 | syrae | Lunessa: thanks. Will listen when I am not on the phone. :) |
| 17:18.33 | Lunessa | Be warned, it's 19 minutes long. |
| 17:18.40 | syrae | I'd listen to it now, but Mr. Presenter is sitting right behind me |
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| 17:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | And THEN it starts! :) |
| 17:19.22 | syrae | right now I am concentrating on restraining myself from face stabbing |
| 17:19.25 | Lopeppeppy | You can get anything you want at the Regnesfolk Pit Pig Roast... |
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| 17:20.18 | Lopeppeppy | Come right in, we're down by the bog, just follow the smell of the creosoted logs... |
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| 17:22.19 | syrae | >_< |
| 17:23.02 | syrae | "Is it ok with people if I show sourcecode on the screen for a few minutes? (1/2 sec pause) No? Ok, then let's get some up here." |
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| 17:24.43 | syrae | My favorite part is how whenever anyone joins the phone conference, he stops talking about whatever he was talking about and spends 2 minutes summarizing what he's been talking about since the beginning of the talk |
| 17:25.20 | Lunessa | 27 8x5 color glossy photos with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one... |
| 17:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | Argh. Shoot him in the head with a rubber band, syrae |
| 17:25.44 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: ooohhh.... |
| 17:25.51 | syrae | sooo tempting |
| 17:25.53 | olafski | < Ackis> just to watch him die? <-- only in Reno, rite? |
| 17:26.46 | Lopeppeppy | If you do it from low down, he can't see who did it. But you have to be gooood at it. |
| 17:27.01 | olafski | have you told him his slides suck? |
| 17:27.05 | olafski | considering you've seen it 30 times |
| 17:27.33 | Lopeppeppy | "I'm sorry, I'm not willing to sit through this shoddy presentation one more time." |
| 17:27.45 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 17:27.54 | Fisker | but you probably already knew that |
| 17:28.00 | Lopeppeppy | With a rubber band cannon? |
| 17:28.12 | Fisker | lol wat |
| 17:28.13 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: <3 |
| 17:28.16 | Fisker | 4,8" smartphone |
| 17:30.58 | Lunessa | Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself? |
| 17:31.13 | syrae | On the plus side.... |
| 17:31.18 | syrae | Happy TARDIS Day!!! |
| 17:31.22 | Fisker | kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid KID ROOOOOOOCK |
| 17:31.30 | Fisker | whatever do you mean syrae ? |
| 17:31.50 | syrae | Fisker: on this day in 1963 Doctor Who aired for the first time. |
| 17:32.08 | Fisker | :O |
| 17:34.55 | syrae | Also, happy 6th Anniversary World of Warcraft and 15th Anniversary of the Warcraft franchise |
| 17:35.23 | Lopeppeppy | WoW anniversary is on my birthdays calendar, I'm such a geeeeeek. |
| 17:35.23 | Adys | how often do the capital elem invasions happen? |
| 17:35.23 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: hehe |
| 17:35.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm a bit sad the Feat of Strength doesn't start until the 30th |
| 17:35.36 | syrae | Adys: ~2 hours. I donno if they're still happening post patch |
| 17:35.42 | Adys | im on eu :p |
| 17:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | which particular feat, jnwhiteh? |
| 17:35.53 | jnwhiteh | the 6th anniv |
| 17:36.01 | syrae | Adys: I know. I'm just saying, I don't know that they will happen post-patch |
| 17:36.01 | Lopeppeppy | why did they put it off? |
| 17:36.07 | Lunessa | Shouldn't that be tomorrow? I recall retail lauch as being the 24th |
| 17:36.47 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: You looking to stand in some fire? |
| 17:36.51 | Lopeppeppy | I have it in my calendar from the last 2 years as the 23rd, lunessa. And lo, there were celebratory pets! |
| 17:37.04 | Lunessa | lo! |
| 17:37.05 | syrae | Adys: the portals should be permanently open on the last day. They were on US servers. If you want the achieve, I found it easy to get by just flying around Outland |
| 17:37.22 | Adys | its not the portals i care about |
| 17:38.41 | dardack | jnwhiteh what FoS? |
| 17:38.46 | jnwhiteh | 6th anniv |
| 17:38.49 | dardack | oh oh |
| 17:38.55 | dardack | through to get dead by his breath |
| 17:38.58 | dardack | hope i can get that |
| 17:39.08 | dardack | i logged off in soutshore jsut for plants vs zombies want the pet |
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| 17:39.39 | jnwhiteh | where's the list of these acihs? |
| 17:40.08 | dardack | which ones? |
| 17:40.13 | dardack | cata.wowhead |
| 17:40.22 | dardack | i think pet is survice 100 waves |
| 17:40.24 | dardack | or something |
| 17:40.32 | dardack | but you can't do that till you finish the quest line |
| 17:40.42 | Lunessa | You can get anything you want at Alice's Restauraunt! |
| 17:40.58 | Adys | "how do i fly in asaroth" |
| 17:41.09 | TC-Work | assaroth! |
| 17:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh you can get anything you want at the Renesfolk Pit Pig Roast! |
| 17:41.57 | Lunessa | That sounds like a machinima porn movie. |
| 17:42.05 | dardack | wow porn movie |
| 17:42.16 | dardack | the women of assaroth |
| 17:42.21 | Torhal | ... |
| 17:42.33 | dardack | sorry i'll crawl back into my hole |
| 17:42.37 | Lopeppeppy | SCA filk of the song. :) |
| 17:43.11 | Lunessa | With 2 hours of Pulse-Pounding ACTION! |
| 17:43.32 | Lunessa | Yes, I know. There's something /wrong/ with me. |
| 17:43.55 | dardack | nah |
| 17:43.57 | Lopeppeppy | The Renesfolk cooked themselves a full sized pig in a pit. They named it Trichinosis Dick, on account of it had been thawing in a cooler for an entire week in the shade of the... well, what shade? and August isn't exactly cool, even down by the lake. |
| 17:44.27 | jnwhiteh | dardack: not there anymore |
| 17:44.31 | jnwhiteh | dardack: suggestions? |
| 17:44.41 | Fisker | jnwhiteh want acer's 4,8"? |
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| 17:44.42 | dardack | for which? achievements in cata? |
| 17:44.45 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no |
| 17:44.47 | dardack | or the breath achievement |
| 17:44.48 | jnwhiteh | dardack: yea, for the shattering. |
| 17:44.57 | jnwhiteh | any shhattering based acihs |
| 17:44.58 | cogwheel | huh... amazon has a preorder for DNF |
| 17:45.00 | jnwhiteh | so i can camp well tomorrow :P |
| 17:45.09 | dardack | ahh they said it's completely random |
| 17:45.14 | dardack | you may not be able to camp it |
| 17:45.36 | dardack | http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=5518/stood-in-the-fire |
| 17:45.44 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 17:46.41 | dardack | In Cataclysm, there will be 30 zones in Eastern Kingdoms and 23 zones in Kalimdor. That's 53 zones, and -again, presumably- only one will be assaulted by Deathwing each day. |
| 17:46.42 | dardack | Maybe every hour, I dunno. But good luck! :D |
| 17:46.44 | jnwhiteh | luckily i need to herbalise :P |
| 17:46.54 | dardack | so yea will be hard to "camp" |
| 17:47.06 | nevcairiel | its more then once a day, at least was in the beta |
| 17:48.00 | dardack | There is very little warning once he decides to strafe a zone. If you're not in the zone already, you have virtually no chance of sacrificing yourself to his flame. |
| 17:48.27 | Lunessa | It's awesome to behold too. |
| 17:48.36 | dardack | yea i want to behold it |
| 17:48.40 | dardack | so is it once per hour? |
| 17:48.47 | syrae | I think it's once an hour |
| 17:48.47 | Lunessa | He's gorram HUGE |
| 17:49.12 | syrae | Lunessa: <3 for saying gorram |
| 17:49.17 | syrae | fyi |
| 17:49.23 | Dajova | o god... i really hate when ppl cant read the HEADLINE and asks stupid questions cause of that... |
| 17:49.30 | dardack | like? |
| 17:49.39 | durcyn | syrae: lunessa's a dude |
| 17:49.40 | durcyn | fyi |
| 17:49.46 | Lunessa | syrae: Did you see the episode of Castle where he speaks in Chinese? |
| 17:49.52 | syrae | durcyn: I can't randomly love people online? |
| 17:49.55 | syrae | Lunessa: YES!!!! |
| 17:50.03 | Lunessa | "TV show I used to love." |
| 17:50.04 | Dajova | there's this guy who asked if i could upload a modified mod that i have for my ui... |
| 17:50.14 | syrae | Lunessa: I know! It was so sad. |
| 17:50.18 | Dajova | the only thing is that the link is on the font page on the top of the page |
| 17:50.29 | Dajova | *front |
| 17:50.31 | syrae | Lunessa: did you read Joss's response to WB rezzing the Buffy IP? |
| 17:50.41 | Lunessa | Yes. Nathan posted a link. |
| 17:51.00 | syrae | :D |
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| 17:51.41 | syrae | I gotta love a guy who has a good sense of humor. |
| 17:51.52 | syrae | It's sad, but Joss da man |
| 17:52.02 | dardack | dajova: oh don't i know it, i normally post things in my youtube description, like song, certain ui elements, how I killed a tough boss (ie Gehennas in MC before gear/patch 4.0 made it trivial) yet people always ask |
| 17:52.15 | Lunessa | Do you have a "Joss Whedon is my Master now" shirt? |
| 17:52.22 | syrae | Nope |
| 17:52.28 | dardack | ok is anyone a bit leary of a buffy reboot? |
| 17:52.35 | Dajova | dardack: same thing here |
| 17:52.44 | syrae | dardack: "leery" is an understatement |
| 17:52.47 | Lopeppeppy | Well... the first buffy reboot was good. Dunno that the second can be. |
| 17:52.50 | Dajova | both on wowi and youtube |
| 17:53.16 | dardack | yea dajova, people just don't take the 10 seconds to read, instead take the 30 to post and waste my 30 seconds |
| 17:53.39 | dardack | syrae oh i know it's understatement i'm just concerned |
| 17:53.44 | syrae | :-\ |
| 17:53.55 | dardack | it would be like if someone took Firefly and tried to do a new tv show |
| 17:54.15 | syrae | Reboots and adaptations in movies and TV are one of the ways I've learned to be the cynical person I am today. |
| 17:54.19 | Lunessa | Hollywood will recycle stuff with a large following because we will all go lap it up. Remember in the movie biz you're only as good as your last film/box-office-blockbuster |
| 17:54.27 | dardack | i don't know, they used to wait a lot longer to do reboots (itallian job/oceans/etc) now they wait 5 years |
| 17:54.40 | Lopeppeppy | bimbo what-buster now? |
| 17:54.49 | Lunessa | Just remember... in 15 years there will be a Twilight reboot. |
| 17:55.09 | dardack | oh gah kill me now |
| 17:55.17 | dardack | didn't even watch the first ones |
| 17:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | And that one can't HELP but be better than this crap we have now!!! |
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| 17:55.32 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: And probably a Harry Potter reboot. |
| 17:55.33 | Lopeppeppy | dardack, they're kind of funny, honestly. |
| 17:55.37 | dardack | i mean is it sad i like HP but not twilight |
| 17:55.39 | Lopeppeppy | No, Harry is adorable. |
| 17:55.54 | olafski | ohh I wanna see the new movie |
| 17:55.58 | dardack | saw part1 |
| 17:56.07 | dardack | couldn't they just bring part 2 in 2 months |
| 17:56.10 | dardack | why wait till summer |
| 17:56.15 | Fisker | why did google ruin their site? |
| 17:56.22 | dardack | how did google ruin their site/ |
| 17:56.25 | olafski | good question fisker |
| 17:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | to punish you for your crimes, fisker |
| 17:56.37 | Fisker | dardack the site is now centered |
| 17:56.44 | Fisker | atleast for me |
| 17:56.47 | olafski | I don't really like that find-as-you-type stuff either:P |
| 17:56.47 | dardack | looks same to me |
| 17:56.58 | dardack | ahh nvm i see a menu on the left |
| 17:57.06 | dardack | i really like it olafski |
| 17:57.06 | olafski | not sure about the image previews yet |
| 17:57.12 | dardack | i've found stuff i wouldn't have otherwise |
| 17:58.00 | dardack | i will say i did like the Star Trek reboot |
| 17:58.20 | syrae | I wanted to like the Star Trek reboot, but the way they filmed it drove me nuts |
| 17:58.35 | dardack | if only Lucas had never been involved in the first 3 (second trilogy) movies, like at all, it may have been half good |
| 17:58.41 | dardack | i actually like it |
| 17:58.42 | syrae | The lens flares and shaky cam made it really hard for me to figure out WTF was going on |
| 17:58.46 | dardack | my wife liked it even more |
| 17:59.05 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/437953ee7d85580aaf651a64ea7925ca.png <-looks like this for me |
| 17:59.08 | dardack | which she didn't even know about sci fi till she met me 12 years ago |
| 17:59.40 | dardack | hmmm mine isn't that squished into center |
| 17:59.41 | durcyn | you can't have JJ Abrams without lens flares, this is a fact of life. |
| 17:59.53 | dardack | are you that far zoomed out?" |
| 18:00.52 | Fisker | not zoomed out at all |
| 18:01.41 | dardack | what's your resolution then? |
| 18:05.46 | Fisker | 1920x1200 |
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| 18:09.34 | Ackis | The three new pets you can add today to your collection are: Brazie's Songflower, Mr. Grubb's and Withers. |
| 18:09.38 | Ackis | yay? |
| 18:09.40 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: hello thomas |
| 18:10.46 | Lopeppeppy | Brazie's Songflower! Do want. |
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| 18:16.04 | Legorol | I came across an interesting dilemma today when doing BRD on an alt |
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| 18:16.24 | Legorol | I entered a group for BRD - Upper City, which you finish by killing the emperor |
| 18:16.32 | Legorol | However, to get to him, you need to have the Shadowforge Key |
| 18:16.38 | Legorol | so what happens if noone in the group has it? |
| 18:16.43 | Legorol | How are you supposed to complete the run? |
| 18:16.53 | Legorol | Is there an alternate endboss for BRD - Upper City? |
| 18:17.13 | Lopeppeppy | I've never killed the emperor, we've always skipped him. |
| 18:17.59 | Mirrormn | maybe it's smart enough not to put together a group without a key |
| 18:18.26 | Lunessa | Do you actually still need the key? |
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| 18:20.19 | Robsato | Dungeon tool put together groups for backdoor of Stratholme without anyone that had a key so I doubt it will work for BRD. |
| 18:20.58 | foxlit | That's where you all re-queue for lower city and get the key? :) |
| 18:21.21 | Lunessa | *shrug* I have Keymaster on my main and thus have keys to everything that needs one. |
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| 18:21.46 | Robsato | In an ideal world yes, but for some reason people generally abandoned group |
| 18:22.26 | Adys | Shirik |
| 18:22.30 | Adys | how do i catch errors in lua? |
| 18:22.34 | foxlit | "In addition, Thorns damage has been reduced by 60%." |
| 18:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | With a spoon. |
| 18:22.41 | Adys | GetAchievementInfo errors if i give it a bad id |
| 18:22.51 | nevcairiel | foxlit: what, it was so awesome |
| 18:23.11 | foxlit | nevcairiel: world-breakingly awesome. |
| 18:23.25 | Lunessa | One might even say it was cataclysmic? |
| 18:23.37 | foxlit | I still don't like the balance mastery bonus. |
| 18:23.44 | nevcairiel | yeah balance mastery sucks |
| 18:23.52 | foxlit | Kind of kills "chance to proc +Bazillion mastery" trinkets |
| 18:23.53 | nevcairiel | haste and int are far better dps stats |
| 18:24.05 | Lunessa | needs more minions on US Kirin Tor. |
| 18:24.26 | nevcairiel | since you cant really cap int, and the haste cap is very far away as well, i dont see me gearing for mastery any time soon |
| 18:24.53 | Legorol | Lunessa: yes you need the key still. Mirrormn: it's not by choice, it's the LFD tool. foxlit: you don't need to requeue to kill the bosses relevant for the key quest. |
| 18:25.07 | nevcairiel | the resto mastery could be interesting |
| 18:26.54 | Legorol | What is really nasty about this BRD situation is if it's a group of new players. They have very little way of knowing that someone has to die, start ghost running, and pick up the key quest as a ghost. That this is potentially requirement for completing a random LFD group is absurd. |
| 18:27.26 | durcyn | oh no, your MMO might not be on rails anymore, cry a godamn river. |
| 18:27.32 | foxlit | so the key quest sucks. |
| 18:27.34 | nevcairiel | You dont need the key to do BRD |
| 18:27.38 | foxlit | I mean, what if you're so awesome you never die? |
| 18:28.01 | Mirrormn | I remember when WoW wasn't so carebear and dying was like the only thing you were expected to do in BRD ^_^ |
| 18:28.15 | Mirrormn | dying and being lost |
| 18:28.20 | Mirrormn | man I loved those days |
| 18:29.39 | Legorol | durcyn: there is difference between not being on rails, and having to find an obscure, unusual quest giver which is nothing like what you have ever done in the game |
| 18:29.52 | Legorol | nevcairiel: how do you get to emperor without the key? |
| 18:30.01 | Legorol | you need to pass over the bridge, which needs the key to open up |
| 18:30.16 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: you can swim |
| 18:30.32 | Legorol | if you mean through lava, that's even more obscure |
| 18:30.41 | Mirrormn | anyway, I'm not entirely sure, but I seem to recall there being multiple hints as to where you could find the key |
| 18:30.44 | Arrowmaster | thats how we used to do attunement runs |
| 18:30.57 | Mirrormn | something like a quest from badlands, an inscription on a statue within BRD, etc |
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| 18:33.39 | jnwhiteh | I heard a rumour you won't be able to get the Kingslayer title after the patch |
| 18:33.41 | jnwhiteh | confirm/deny? |
| 18:34.11 | Mirrormn | http://i.imgur.com/mDicG.gif >.> |
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| 18:37.14 | foxlit | map is wrong :/ |
| 18:37.50 | Iriel | Hm the patch notes cut off at "Professions" in the launcher. |
| 18:40.36 | dardack | jnwhiteh it's unknown what you can/cannot get after patch |
| 18:40.47 | dardack | like the cata.wowhead achievement for herald taht's the FoS says at 80 |
| 18:40.56 | dardack | so does that mean if your 80 and in proper gear can you still get herald? |
| 18:41.11 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 18:41.15 | Napoleone | got a question |
| 18:41.20 | dardack | anyways got my herald/immortal this past week |
| 18:41.22 | dardack | just in case |
| 18:41.32 | Napoleone | what do i use to get like mounted vehicle.. like the dragons in oculus, and siege engines |
| 18:41.51 | dardack | you mean API wise? |
| 18:42.01 | Napoleone | UnitName and that stuff |
| 18:42.03 | Shirik | Adys, you use pcall()? |
| 18:42.09 | Adys | no |
| 18:42.23 | Shirik | no that would be the answer |
| 18:43.12 | syrae | Does anyone know what the flood/softban interval on the Armory is? |
| 18:44.12 | syrae | I know it's been a while since you made your Armory tools, but Antiarc do you know? |
| 18:44.18 | dardack | !api vehicle |
| 18:44.18 | lua_bot | Found 49 possible matches for 'vehicle'. Please be more specific |
| 18:44.24 | Computerpunk | ~framexml |
| 18:44.24 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 18:45.01 | Antiarc | It's like 1 req/sec or something like that |
| 18:45.17 | Napoleone | !api UnitName() |
| 18:45.17 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'UnitName()': UnitName, GetUnitName |
| 18:45.22 | dardack | UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE |
| 18:45.25 | Napoleone | !api UnitName |
| 18:45.26 | lua_bot | UnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName) |
| 18:45.51 | syrae | Antiarc: ok, so my 1 req per 15 sec was waaaaay cautious. :) |
| 18:46.06 | dardack | i believe unitid can be vehicle |
| 18:46.19 | dardack | which returns palyers vechile but i've never messed with vehicles so no clue |
| 18:46.24 | Antiarc | syrae: Just keep cranking it up until you get banned, then dial it back one notch |
| 18:46.30 | Antiarc | The calvin-and-hobbes-bridge method. |
| 18:46.31 | syrae | Antiarc: hah |
| 18:47.13 | syrae | Antiarc: how long is the ban? Any idea? |
| 18:47.19 | Antiarc | Like an hour or so? |
| 18:47.22 | syrae | ok |
| 18:47.23 | Antiarc | It's not bad, it's just "hey, stop that" |
| 18:47.38 | Ackis | anyone have a list of achievements I can get tonight in wow? |
| 18:47.39 | syrae | so, don't test speed until I finish functionality. Got it |
| 18:47.53 | syrae | Antiarc: Thanks very much! |
| 18:48.12 | Antiarc | You can hammer it pretty hard without penalty. It's something like avg req/hour for a given IP or something |
| 18:48.19 | Antiarc | So if it's just development you're probably okay as is. |
| 18:48.28 | syrae | I'm doing a guild scan, so it's not terrible |
| 18:48.44 | syrae | not like scanning realms or anything |
| 18:48.51 | Antiarc | yeah, you'll be fine |
| 18:49.00 | syrae | Also.. new armory isn't XML. Sadness. :( |
| 18:49.08 | Antiarc | yeah, I noticed that. |
| 18:49.09 | Antiarc | Annoying. |
| 18:49.17 | Antiarc | At least nokogiri still makes it easy. |
| 18:49.19 | syrae | Indeed. I couldn't find a good interface anywhere |
| 18:49.26 | syrae | Nokogiri? |
| 18:49.42 | Antiarc | It's an HTML/XML parser for Ruby, very fast and has awesome traversal methods. |
| 18:49.49 | syrae | ah hah |
| 18:49.53 | syrae | I'm using Python |
| 18:49.54 | Antiarc | http://nokogiri.org/ |
| 18:50.41 | syrae | I was smart enough to create general classes for the data and make it so I can just swap the parser out if the old armory becomes completely useless |
| 18:53.09 | Jamash | maintenance window extended to 1:00 PM, take a shot |
| 18:53.34 | Antiarc | If you're drinking whenever they extend the window, I hope you have a world-class liver. |
| 18:53.42 | syrae | heh |
| 18:53.43 | Jamash | oh, I don't drink |
| 18:53.46 | Jamash | I'm the referee |
| 18:53.58 | syrae | I have a bot in my other channel that prints out when the status alert has been changed |
| 18:54.03 | Jamash | nice |
| 18:54.12 | Jamash | why don't we have one of those? |
| 18:54.14 | syrae | and we took bets on when the servers would come back up |
| 18:54.28 | syrae | Jamash: because Cide would rage |
| 18:54.40 | Jamash | my money's on the maintenance window being extended 4 times |
| 18:54.46 | syrae | hehe |
| 18:55.14 | Jamash | PTR still up? |
| 18:55.28 | Baps | over/under for servers being up is 5pm server.. who wants the over and who wants the under? =) |
| 18:55.40 | Baps | s/server/pacific/ |
| 18:55.41 | syrae | Under |
| 18:55.56 | Jamash | ohhhhhhhhhh, you've gone over |
| 18:56.17 | syrae | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 18:56.27 | Jamash | ptrs are indeed still up |
| 18:56.29 | syrae | ^ Making a bot monitor that for updates is pretty simple |
| 18:58.50 | Lopeppeppy | There is a bot that monitors it. |
| 18:59.19 | syrae | hehe, other than mechaGnome, the bestest bot evar?!? |
| 18:59.25 | syrae | loves mecha |
| 18:59.33 | syrae | ^ My bot |
| 18:59.46 | Lopeppeppy | Um. Purl does it I think. |
| 19:00.13 | durcyn | purl doesn't diff it, no. |
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| 19:01.55 | sylvanaar_work | is beta really over? |
| 19:02.01 | syrae | :( |
| 19:02.09 | sylvanaar_work | i feel like i didnt get the memo |
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| 19:02.41 | DWSR | Oh hey look. |
| 19:02.51 | DWSR | Maintenance got extended. |
| 19:02.55 | DWSR | iloled. |
| 19:02.57 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 19:03.08 | DWSR | My guild was like "ZOMG NO IT HAS TO BE UP, THERE'S RP TO BE DONE" |
| 19:03.10 | sylvanaar_work | why do they even bother with the earlier times |
| 19:03.17 | TC-Work | no kidding |
| 19:03.20 | DWSR | I'm like "The last time that they had a smooth major patch launch was.............." |
| 19:03.30 | sylvanaar_work | they should just say - if its up by midnight youll be lucky |
| 19:03.34 | DWSR | lol |
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| 19:03.49 | DWSR | Yeah, I'm laughing because I'm working until 11pm EST, and I don't think I'll be missing much game time. |
| 19:03.49 | sylvanaar_work | go to the bar or something |
| 19:04.06 | durcyn | do you want the downtime now or on 12/6, eh? |
| 19:04.13 | Jamash | both |
| 19:04.14 | sylvanaar_work | exactly |
| 19:04.15 | Jamash | with extra lag |
| 19:04.16 | DWSR | There will be downtime on 12/6. |
| 19:04.20 | DWSR | Don't worry. |
| 19:04.22 | TC-Work | i'm surprised they even give one, it doesnt fit in the the "Soon (tm)" idea |
| 19:04.26 | DWSR | The launch will /not/ be smooth. |
| 19:04.34 | sylvanaar_work | we know |
| 19:04.41 | Jamash | smooth as a mill-race |
| 19:04.45 | DWSR | Anyway, I would prefer downtime on the 6th, I pre-ordered a CE from Best Buy, and I can't get my game at midnight anyway. |
| 19:04.53 | sylvanaar_work | i have one of each |
| 19:04.59 | DWSR | I was thinking of doing that, actually. |
| 19:05.09 | durcyn | well, i'm sure they'll be happy to put a bullet in the auth servers just for you, pal |
| 19:05.16 | sylvanaar_work | i got a CE, and then for my 2nd account i got a preorder at gamestop |
| 19:05.28 | DWSR | Is the WoW sale only in the EU? |
| 19:05.34 | DWSR | Or can those in NA get it as well? |
| 19:05.38 | sylvanaar_work | since i live about 500 ft from gamestop - it will be perfect |
| 19:05.46 | DWSR | Because I have a second account with only classic on it and I want to gift WoW to my girlfriend. |
| 19:07.00 | Iriel | I'm wondering if amazon pre-orders will arrive early since you can't actually USE it until launch anyway, no sense in trying to be too clever' |
| 19:07.50 | sylvanaar_work | i dont see why we cant just buy the thing now |
| 19:07.57 | Baps | there wasn't any downtime for the wrath launch on my server |
| 19:07.59 | sylvanaar_work | they are selling the streaming version |
| 19:08.09 | sylvanaar_work | why not the dvds |
| 19:08.17 | durcyn | probably haven't even been pressed yet |
| 19:08.19 | Baps | the boats to northrend just started running at 12:01 pacific |
| 19:08.30 | Legorol | sylvanaar_work: production and not cutting out retail |
| 19:08.44 | sylvanaar_work | no i mean through retail |
| 19:09.14 | durcyn | they have to have a gold master disc before they can actually ship units =P |
| 19:09.22 | DWSR | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1010153#blog <-- anyone know if you can do this in the US as well? |
| 19:09.40 | sylvanaar_work | all it has to have is the streaming launcher |
| 19:09.55 | sylvanaar_work | and the data files they know wont be changing |
| 19:10.10 | dardack | ok from my understanding (when I preorder BC from Best buy they sent me email saying i could pick up monday, i called best buy to confirm, they said i could, so i drop the 40 minutes to pick it up, told me they couldn't give it to me, i did get a $50 gift card, so got BC for free, but learned they can be fined and loose the rights to carry any future blizzard game if they release any game early |
| 19:10.17 | dardack | so that's why you can't get em early |
| 19:10.17 | Baps | everything that was 4.0.1 is likely what was pressed to the retail CDs |
| 19:10.25 | dardack | but eh i like the digital download myself |
| 19:10.52 | Legorol | there has to be a release date so that retail places sell at the same time |
| 19:10.55 | Baps | so it won't actually be installing much, all you really care about is the account key |
| 19:10.55 | dardack | i bet if your playing now the retail cd does nothing |
| 19:10.58 | Legorol | anyone selling early would make unfair profits |
| 19:11.13 | sylvanaar_work | you dont get the cinematics with the online version |
| 19:11.15 | Legorol | dardack: not true, there is about 700Mb - 1 Gb of Cata only data that'd be on the retail CD |
| 19:11.15 | durcyn | you mean like blizzard already is, Legorol |
| 19:11.22 | sylvanaar_work | right? |
| 19:11.24 | durcyn | sylvanaar_work: yes you do |
| 19:11.30 | Baps | sylvanaar: they said that was incorrect and you will get everything |
| 19:11.33 | dardack | ok so not anything legorol just small amount |
| 19:11.35 | Legorol | dardack: that's what the launcher downloads (expansion3.mpq) if you get the digital pre-download |
| 19:11.36 | Baps | in fact, you already have it now |
| 19:11.42 | sylvanaar_work | well, geez |
| 19:11.44 | Baps | I watched the cinematic this morning |
| 19:11.50 | sylvanaar_work | yeah i did too |
| 19:12.03 | Legorol | durcyn: yes |
| 19:12.08 | Legorol | at least blizz is selling it for more than teh retail shops |
| 19:12.12 | dardack | they said that was temporary for older stuff |
| 19:12.14 | Legorol | they are careful not to undercut retail |
| 19:12.25 | dardack | um they are? |
| 19:12.27 | dardack | same price to me |
| 19:12.47 | sylvanaar_work | i just want to know if i can play at 12am EST |
| 19:12.59 | durcyn | sylvanaar_work: 3 |
| 19:13.05 | dardack | $39.99 from blizz or any retail store near me you can pre order, so please tell me how it's more |
| 19:13.15 | sylvanaar_work | since i am buying it at the store |
| 19:13.16 | Baps | no. 12:01 pacific for all realms |
| 19:13.18 | dardack | yea 3 sylvanaar, it's all west cost time |
| 19:13.33 | sylvanaar_work | thats a first |
| 19:13.45 | dardack | yea i know they used to have west coast play at 9 |
| 19:13.47 | Jamash | well, that's what they *say* |
| 19:13.56 | dardack | yea what they say and what happens could change |
| 19:13.59 | dardack | it is blizz after all |
| 19:14.03 | Jamash | I doubt it'll happen like they want it to |
| 19:14.07 | Shirik | Arrowmaster |
| 19:14.09 | Shirik | "XML is like violence - if it doesnât solve your problems, you are not using enough of it." |
| 19:14.15 | dardack | legorol: where do you see retail being cheaper plz |
| 19:14.17 | Shirik | This is pretty much my view of what XML advocates think |
| 19:14.18 | sylvanaar_work | right, like the servers are going to even be up before noon |
| 19:14.22 | Jamash | Shirik: nice, I like it |
| 19:14.25 | Arrowmaster | why are you telling me this? |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | you linked nokogiri right? |
| 19:14.40 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:14.44 | Shirik | sorry, Antiarc ^^ |
| 19:14.52 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 19:14.55 | Gnarfoz | uhm sylv, servers have been up each expansion release at midnight (or whenever) |
| 19:14.58 | dardack | my daughter has a knocked out induced MRI the day cata comes out, so i'll be a bit behind, so i hope they aren't up for long time |
| 19:15.16 | Jamash | you mean concussion? |
| 19:15.22 | Antiarc | Shirik: Oh, I quite agree. Unfortunately, other people keep using XML for things. |
| 19:15.30 | Antiarc | So at least I have a good tool for dealing with it. |
| 19:15.32 | Gnarfoz | not sure why anyone would suggest otherwise, especially since the release does not coincide with any maintenance |
| 19:15.35 | sylvanaar_work | up and down Gnarfoz |
| 19:15.55 | dardack | concussion me? no they are knocking her out, she's 4, she has epilepsy want to make sure her brain isn't damaged |
| 19:16.00 | Gnarfoz | had no trouble at all, BC and WotLK |
| 19:16.03 | durcyn | crashes don't count as maintenance =P |
| 19:16.18 | Gnarfoz | nothing crashed *shrug* |
| 19:16.35 | durcyn | for you. |
| 19:16.56 | Gnarfoz | obviously you play on shitty servers :) |
| 19:17.23 | Gnarfoz | also, I hate TR-69 |
| 19:17.29 | sylvanaar_work | i hope this new server i am on isnt shitty |
| 19:17.37 | Gnarfoz | or whatever that remote configuration protocol is called |
| 19:17.54 | dardack | sigh these naruto story arcs are boring |
| 19:21.17 | Arrowmaster | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/11/23/1631210/Crooks-Hack-Music-Players-For-ATM-Skimmers |
| 19:21.33 | Arrowmaster | crooks using methods published in a magazine 18 years ago |
| 19:21.54 | Arrowmaster | why the hell do we use equipment thats been vulnerable for 18 fucking years at least |
| 19:23.20 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: signatures are known to be forgable, but they've been used for centuries |
| 19:23.34 | cbreak | why? because it's convenient and cheap. |
| 19:23.55 | Arrowmaster | like the new rfid credit cards |
| 19:24.13 | Arrowmaster | convenient but even more easier to get stolen now |
| 19:24.19 | cbreak | yeah! You can pay stuff just by sitting near someone with a reader |
| 19:24.26 | Ackis | https://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/c84dabbd-552f-4033-a788-61d71f4bf78a.jpg |
| 19:24.48 | sylvanaar_work | the signarue is for your protection, so you can validate that you were the one who signed it. thats the only purpose it serves |
| 19:25.18 | sylvanaar_work | s/rue/ture/ |
| 19:26.13 | sylvanaar_work | its not like a bank check where they have your signature on file. |
| 19:26.35 | sylvanaar_work | the credit card companies dont know what your signature looks like |
| 19:27.07 | Gnarfoz | neither does my bank =D |
| 19:27.25 | sylvanaar_work | my bank made me sign a signature card |
| 19:27.31 | sylvanaar_work | do you have a checking account? |
| 19:28.07 | Gnarfoz | not sure what that is, cheques are so last millenium |
| 19:28.18 | Gnarfoz | (if that's what you're referring to) |
| 19:28.25 | sylvanaar_work | i actually withdrew money once using only my signature as identiication |
| 19:28.56 | Lunessa | many banks are now finger-printing customers. :( |
| 19:28.56 | sylvanaar_work | they faxed it somewhere and verified that it matched |
| 19:29.03 | Gnarfoz | lolol finger prints |
| 19:29.05 | Gnarfoz | not going to happen |
| 19:29.24 | sylvanaar_work | they fingerprint the illegal aliens coming to cash their paychecks |
| 19:29.30 | Gnarfoz | whelp, only a matter of time before someone uses fear of terrorism to make that a law here, though |
| 19:30.14 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
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| 19:30.58 | sylvanaar_work | its nice that everyone has finally woken up - its funny that the straw that broke the camels back was by the TSA |
| 19:31.14 | nebula169 | people don't like their boobies touche |
| 19:31.16 | nebula169 | d |
| 19:31.17 | Arrowmaster | i need to get my credit card replacement idea patented |
| 19:31.19 | nebula169 | or looked at |
| 19:31.32 | Gnarfoz | TSA? certainly not related, and nobody except the fearmongers and opportunists have waken up around here |
| 19:32.03 | Computerpunk | best macro ever: |
| 19:32.04 | Computerpunk | local msg = "hello friend" |
| 19:32.04 | Computerpunk | for i=1, GetNumWhoResults() do c = GetWhoInfo(i) SendChatMessage(msg,"WHISPER",nil,c) end |
| 19:32.07 | sylvanaar_work | thats the same folks who talked us into giving up so many liberties |
| 19:32.20 | Gnarfoz | (I r not from .us) |
| 19:32.28 | Gnarfoz | but hey, we're falling for FAKE BOMBS |
| 19:32.36 | Gnarfoz | that were intentionally sent as FAKE BOMBS |
| 19:32.41 | sylvanaar_work | oh god, please dont use the who api directly |
| 19:33.12 | sylvanaar_work | that thing is such a pita |
| 19:33.29 | Computerpunk | sylvanaar_work, I'm using it to troll people, lol. |
| 19:33.30 | Gnarfoz | with the company's name on the suitcase the FAKE BOMB was in... even some US agency knew it was fake... well, I guess ours did, too, they just claimed otherwise to be able to say "omg, we're IN DANGER!" |
| 19:34.15 | sylvanaar_work | weapons of mass destruction |
| 19:34.21 | sylvanaar_work | where are they?! |
| 19:34.30 | sylvanaar_work | still lookin' ? |
| 19:34.32 | Gnarfoz | weapons of freedom destruction, more like |
| 19:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | If I have to be Tech Support Barbie, I seriously deserve the hot pink Corvette to drive home in. |
| 19:35.13 | Jamash | Extended to 5pm, take another shot |
| 19:35.31 | sylvanaar_work | 5pm Pacific? lol |
| 19:35.33 | Ackis | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/16/willow-palin-facebook-posts_n_784585.html |
| 19:35.35 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: hey even i would drive a hot pink Corvette, if it was the right model year |
| 19:35.57 | Ackis | can someone give me some IQ points because I lost a bunch reading that link =/ |
| 19:36.14 | sylvanaar_work | try watching the tv show |
| 19:36.33 | Ackis | noooooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:37.31 | dardack | wait i thought it was 3pm, it's now 5? |
| 19:37.45 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I would drive it too.. right to a place to get it repainted. |
| 19:37.49 | sylvanaar_work | i cant believe she has a show ... do you think its supposed to be a joke |
| 19:38.14 | Ackis | she is a joke |
| 19:38.30 | dardack | eh who care's tbh |
| 19:38.38 | Jamash | it's like Mr. Ed |
| 19:39.11 | sylvanaar_work | well, i can take a nap after work - that sounds nice anyways |
| 19:39.16 | ccox | "upgrade is taking longer than expected" -- dude, that happens every time, shouldn't you improve |
| 19:39.16 | ccox | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.22 | dardack | some things sarah says i agree with some i don't, all politicians are crooks, the US system is just messed up, 2 party system is the worst and either party in party is basically the same |
| 19:39.30 | dardack | can anyone confirm has it really gone to 5pm? |
| 19:39.55 | Jamash | she's a politician, she says all politicians are crooks, well we know she's right about at least one |
| 19:40.02 | Mirrormn | Ackis: Rule of Lady Gaga |
| 19:40.21 | Iriel | Launcher says 5pm now |
| 19:40.22 | Mirrormn | you're just as bad as anyone who loves the palin family |
| 19:40.31 | Mirrormn | because you're drawing our attention to them =/ |
| 19:40.32 | Iriel | (Well, login screen does) |
| 19:40.38 | ccox | she says every party is the same, because she's only seen the inside of one, and doesn't want to learn any more |
| 19:41.03 | Jamash | lady gaga is smarter than sarah palin |
| 19:41.17 | Mirrormn | who's lady gaga? |
| 19:41.41 | Jamash | hilarious |
| 19:41.48 | dardack | some really popular pop singer or something, i find her just obnoxious |
| 19:43.05 | Shirik | just learned of a new way to suppress fires |
| 19:43.15 | Shirik | We should start making fire extinguishers with JP-7 fuel |
| 19:43.31 | Shirik | You can put it on a fire and will extinguish it |
| 19:43.49 | Jamash | you get on that, I'll be over here running away very fast |
| 19:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | ... this seems counter-intuitive. |
| 19:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | http://fortune.worldofwarcraft.com/en_us/personality_test.html |
| 19:45.14 | Shirik | it worked for me |
| 19:45.17 | Shirik | I was a priest :) |
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| 19:46.05 | Lopeppeppy | I got Warrior. Eeew. |
| 19:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | I think I have Anger Management Issues (tm) |
| 19:49.04 | Dagmar | I got warrior as well... but hey, it's not like it's even a little bit scientific |
| 19:49.41 | Dagmar | The difference between it and those *other* "What type of made-up bullshit are you?" quizzes is probably less spam and far better end-result artwork |
| 19:49.56 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 19:50.40 | Dagmar | I'm all about the risk mitigation, and it didn't look like any of those questions had anything like that in them |
| 19:51.06 | Dagmar | Could be the Darkmoon Faire is ever-so-subtly saying "All you townies look alike to us" |
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| 19:53.06 | Yoshimo | is there an addon that remembers which cc-effects a mob is vulnerable to and displays it on the enemy-mouseover tooltip? |
| 19:53.58 | Nechckn | There are a few... one second. |
| 19:55.35 | ccox | hmm, undead huntard -- guess I failed the test |
| 19:55.37 | Nechckn | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mobinfo2.aspx has been mine for a while now |
| 19:55.41 | Dagmar | is interested |
| 19:55.54 | Nechckn | has been the one I use, that is |
| 19:56.00 | Iriel | I got "druid" |
| 19:56.19 | Dagmar | Hmm... I've used that (also for ages) but I don't recall it making CC-resistance very obvious |
| 19:56.38 | Dagmar | ccox: As long as it doesn't say "Your name is McGreg" |
| 19:56.41 | Nechckn | Oh.. um, just resistance |
| 19:56.54 | Nechckn | sorry, just read quickly |
| 19:59.51 | Dagmar | I like that it keeps a running tally on what you've personally seem a mob drop tho. |
| 19:59.54 | Dagmar | s/seem/seen/ |
| 20:00.15 | Nechckn | Me too, Dagmar - the "runs" is also pretty helpful if you do not play often. |
| 20:00.27 | Dagmar | Meh. Humanoids flee. |
| 20:00.46 | Nobgul | so 6 more hours for maint? |
| 20:01.15 | Dagmar | Wow's mobs mostly follow the same rules as most other games. If it's not an intelligent creature, every fight is to the death--there is no self-preservation flight response |
| 20:01.47 | Dagmar | So... a lot like rogues. |
| 20:02.45 | Nechckn | Sure, but when you are just starting out, it is very nice, since some mobs are in-between - at least it seemed that way when I started out. |
| 20:02.56 | Dagmar | You mean the starter area mobs? |
| 20:03.08 | Nechckn | But, the tally is the very coolest part of it, have had that data going for ages and would hate to lose it. |
| 20:03.18 | Dagmar | I'm gonna flush mine |
| 20:03.21 | Nechckn | Eh.. anywhere, when you first run into them. |
| 20:03.47 | Dagmar | Since most everthing's going to be rejiggered, I figure the loot tables and so on will have changed enough that most of that data is useless now |
| 20:04.15 | Nechckn | Is it, though? |
| 20:04.30 | Dagmar | Everywhere *I'M* going to be has been rejiggered |
| 20:04.43 | Nechckn | has not read a whole ton about those sorts of changes |
| 20:05.35 | Dagmar | We'll see about that |
| 20:05.40 | Yoshimo | mobinfo seems a bit wrong, i dont need magic resistance, all i care is , can i use crowdcontrol on it, and taunt, and if so, which spells ;) |
| 20:05.40 | Dagmar | argh wrong chan |
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| 20:06.07 | Cairenn|afk | Ackis: nope |
| 20:06.47 | Dagmar | Yoshimo: Outside of an instance, _very few_ mobs are CC or fear resistant unless they're of a class/race/type that is normally resistant |
| 20:07.11 | Dagmar | I can't think of really any at the momnet |
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| 20:08.20 | Yoshimo | dagmar, i care about the new instances in cata^^ mobspells collects their abilities but misses the cc |
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| 20:08.54 | Dagmar | Are we even going to be able to do any of those that matter until Cata? |
| 20:08.58 | Dagmar | I should look into that today |
| 20:09.23 | Nechckn | Yoshimo I do not know of one that does cc resistances, specifically. Someone else will have to chime in with ideas for that one... |
| 20:09.27 | Dagmar | I should probably look into getting Jeeves running |
| 20:10.05 | Dagmar | Magic Marker seemed to do a pretty good job of remembering that flags were on what the last time around |
| 20:10.48 | dardack | sigh 5pm, bored for 5 more hours |
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| 20:11.19 | Yoshimo | not that i know, beta is over dagmar, but im looking NOW , so no bt endboss can tell me that im not prepared^^ |
| 20:11.31 | Dagmar | dardack: That's why the give you forums... so you can burn that time telling everyone how much you hate life and tey all suck |
| 20:11.51 | dardack | yea not too big on the trolling, and the new forums seem to be a bit slower then the older ones |
| 20:12.04 | Dagmar | Yoshimo: Well, last time I used it it came "pre-stocked" with data for MGT that I mostly agreed with |
| 20:12.32 | dardack | doesn't DBM also have the new instance data pre loaded |
| 20:12.36 | dardack | just saying |
| 20:14.14 | Yoshimo | dbm tells you when a boss will do what kind of ability, but thats not what im looking for ;) |
| 20:15.51 | Dagmar | That and DBM supports crime. |
| 20:15.57 | Dagmar | ... so f**k them. |
| 20:17.28 | dardack | how do they support crime? |
| 20:17.57 | Dagmar | Go to their website and look at their banner as. |
| 20:18.01 | Dagmar | s/as/ads/; |
| 20:18.14 | cbreak | DBM? |
| 20:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | Deadly Boss Mods |
| 20:20.00 | cbreak | oh, yes, DBM is a tool for cheaters without a speck of sense for timing :) |
| 20:20.07 | cbreak | they support the crime of lazyness |
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| 20:22.37 | Dagmar | They support the crimes of malware distribution and identity theft. |
| 20:22.39 | Dagmar | That's enough for me,. |
| 20:22.48 | Gnarfoz | not sure what kind of ads you get on their page |
| 20:23.08 | Gnarfoz | and I doubt they're an ad provider, probably just not aware some crazy USians are getting bad ads |
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| 20:23.29 | Dagmar | Kodak's ads came up when I just pulled up their site, but I was seeing gold seller ads up there just last week. |
| 20:23.41 | Jamash | I see gold seller ads right now |
| 20:23.58 | Dagmar | So basically, they're taking money from people who are actively fucking over players. |
| 20:24.00 | Dagmar | So screw them. |
| 20:24.18 | Gnarfoz | if only it were that easy, but for you it obviously is |
| 20:24.20 | cbreak | so it's like robbin hood |
| 20:24.25 | cbreak | take it from the evil rich guys |
| 20:24.31 | cbreak | and keep it for the poor |
| 20:24.37 | Dagmar | BigWigs works just fine. |
| 20:24.43 | Gnarfoz | anyway, anyone who hates DBM is doing something right in my eyes anyway |
| 20:24.48 | cbreak | WoW has an included boss mod since months |
| 20:25.22 | foxlit | There are a few cases where those fail |
| 20:25.26 | Arrowmaster | its included boss mod like notifications since 2.0 |
| 20:25.41 | Dagmar | Doesn't have countdown timers |
| 20:25.46 | Gnarfoz | doesn't need to |
| 20:26.01 | cbreak | I can count in my head. |
| 20:26.03 | Arrowmaster | right but it has the big red text in the center of the screen telling you the boss is doing something important |
| 20:26.14 | Dagmar | That's not what I use 'em for. |
| 20:26.15 | nebula169 | DBM is like IE of wow, it's just kinda always been around so it tends to be what people use |
| 20:26.31 | Arrowmaster | bigwigs has been around longer than DBM |
| 20:26.49 | Ackis | iirc dbm was updated faster than bigwigs for wrath bosses |
| 20:26.50 | nebula169 | oh? i thougth dbm as vendetta or whatever predated it |
| 20:26.50 | dardack | what arrow said |
| 20:26.51 | Dagmar | Even in Eye of Eternity I can see through the soup and spot the sparking loogie when Malygos is firing off that static AoE |
| 20:26.55 | Gnarfoz | indeed, dbm has not been "always around" by any stretch of imagination |
| 20:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's the IE of wow, many raiding guilds require one or the other. *gentle shrug* I don't care. |
| 20:27.05 | nebula169 | nah |
| 20:27.15 | nebula169 | bw has always had bosses in way before dbm |
| 20:27.15 | Arrowmaster | iirc dbm stole code from bigwigs for a lot of tbc bosses |
| 20:27.16 | Dagmar | It's the countdown to the next time a boss is doing something that I wanna see so I can structure around it |
| 20:27.20 | Gnarfoz | even LVBM (still DBM's sync prefix today) is not older than BW |
| 20:27.33 | Xyphoid | yeah as long as boss encounters are built around fixed timers, i want something that can show me them |
| 20:27.42 | dardack | exactly xphoid |
| 20:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | cannot wait for true random boss encounters. *sparkle in the eye* |
| 20:27.56 | Xyphoid | personally i'd prefer a solution to that that involves removing fixed timers |
| 20:28.01 | Dagmar | Stuff like the blood beasts in Icecrown... if you're a hunter, that f**king timer _is_ a big deal |
| 20:28.13 | Dagmar | Timing for traps is pretty damn tight as it is |
| 20:28.20 | Jamash | I assume you mean on heroic |
| 20:28.29 | nebula169 | need more shamans |
| 20:28.32 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: not code, just timers I thought |
| 20:28.39 | Dagmar | If there's an "easy" mode for that, then you've never done it as a hunter |
| 20:28.40 | Arrowmaster | no they stole code |
| 20:28.47 | Jamash | normal saurfang doesn't even need traps |
| 20:28.50 | Gnarfoz | we don't use traps even if we have hunters with us |
| 20:28.50 | Arrowmaster | it was exactly the fucking same |
| 20:28.55 | Dagmar | Jamash: Bullshit |
| 20:29.00 | Arrowmaster | even the local variable names were the same |
| 20:29.03 | Dagmar | If you overgear the hell out of it then SURE you don't |
| 20:29.13 | Gnarfoz | can't really overgear it on 25 hc |
| 20:29.18 | nebula169 | yes you can, lol |
| 20:29.27 | Gnarfoz | since you're, at the most, in the gear you /get/ there |
| 20:29.27 | Jamash | conc shot works for me |
| 20:29.37 | Dagmar | If you actually stand to get some new gear from him, and you're a hunter, and you're not running triangle throwing down slowing traps, you're not a huntard, you're just an asshole |
| 20:30.15 | Gnarfoz | *shrug* we uses moonkins for it, mostly |
| 20:30.17 | dardack | lopepeppy you think we'll actually see true random boss encounters? |
| 20:30.18 | nebula169 | we had an enhance shaman and an ele shaman drop earthbinding for it, and just let the hunters dps |
| 20:30.18 | Gnarfoz | =s |
| 20:30.19 | Gnarfoz | -s |
| 20:30.26 | Dagmar | That fight is murder on good hunters because you wind up pushing pretty much every damn button you go |
| 20:30.28 | Dagmar | t |
| 20:30.55 | Gnarfoz | you seem to suffer from "having to carry baddies" syndrome |
| 20:30.58 | Jamash | ^ |
| 20:31.22 | Xinhuan | nebula169, the problem isn't that bigwigs has boss modules in earlier than dbm |
| 20:31.24 | Gnarfoz | (or you're in a 5 hunter, 2 tank, 3 healer raid! :D) |
| 20:31.32 | Lopeppeppy | dardack, I can dream, can't I? |
| 20:31.36 | Xinhuan | its that bigwigs doesn't tag releases until 2-3 weeks after the fact |
| 20:31.47 | dardack | Lopeppeppy: sure, i just don't ever see it happening |
| 20:31.49 | Xinhuan | so to the masses and the majority, bigwigs is way slower by 2-3 weeks |
| 20:32.06 | Xinhuan | few people use alpha products |
| 20:32.13 | nebula169 | well shit, dbm is behind by months if you only count offical releases, then |
| 20:32.14 | Xinhuan | or even seek them out |
| 20:32.16 | cbreak | so... you would prefer if they tagged testing releases as release instead of beta? |
| 20:32.20 | Dagmar | If an encounter is that new I don't have a lot of problems with running it bareback |
| 20:32.24 | Jamash | I'm not saying I didn't use traps when learning saurfang, just that they're by no means mandatory |
| 20:32.45 | dardack | you saying at 0% HM 25 they weren't close to mandatory? |
| 20:32.48 | Dagmar | That's just lazy as hell |
| 20:33.05 | Dagmar | Craptons of abilities aren't "mandatory" |
| 20:33.21 | Dagmar | I'm sure healers could let people stay a lot closer to death, but they hand out AoE heals anyway |
| 20:33.26 | Jamash | Dagmar: did someone pee in your cheerios this morning? |
| 20:33.45 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 20:33.47 | Xinhuan | i am merely explaining why dbm is often perceived as having faster modules for bosses - dbm actually publicises about the beta releases with them in it |
| 20:33.50 | Arrowmaster | someone pees in his cheerios every morning |
| 20:34.18 | Dagmar | I object strongly to people using the word "huntard" and a lot of the reason people say it because there's a ton of hunters out there who think their whole everything is just DPS |
| 20:34.34 | Dagmar | ...meanwhile they've got twice the toolkits of most other classes. |
| 20:34.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah DBM is all 'Hey we got a new release out! (btw its still beta)' |
| 20:34.41 | Shirik | pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew |
| 20:34.44 | Dagmar | Someone who wants to "just DPS" should f**king roll a mage. |
| 20:34.45 | Shirik | isn't that what wow's all about? |
| 20:34.48 | Ackis | lua> for 1=1,10000,1 do print("huntard") end |
| 20:34.49 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '1' |
| 20:34.51 | Shirik | Like I rolled a priest so I could smite faces |
| 20:34.52 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:34.53 | Shirik | was that wrong? |
| 20:35.06 | Ackis | I rolled a priest so I could MC people Shirik |
| 20:35.07 | Dagmar | Shirik: Sounds like good enough motivation to me |
| 20:35.07 | Lopeppeppy | No shirik, you smite faces in the best lollerstyle. |
| 20:35.30 | cbreak | mages are SO MUCH MORE than just DPS |
| 20:35.31 | Jamash | I was double trapping when traps could only be laid in combat sir, I would thank you to step off your high horse. |
| 20:35.37 | Jamash | *out of combat |
| 20:35.43 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yeah i know, we used to have some of the best hunters ive ever seen in my guild, when we did razorgore back in the day just 2 hunters kited every single dragonkin in the encounter without any help |
| 20:35.45 | cbreak | we're also transportation, catering, kiting, we have the best crowd control for humanoids in game |
| 20:35.54 | Dagmar | cbreak: Well, they can summon strudel. I suppose that's very important. |
| 20:35.55 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 20:35.56 | Mirrormn | my guild didn't use traps for HM saurfang 25 |
| 20:36.03 | Xyphoid | welp our hunter taunted saurfang instead of the blood beast 3 times in a row |
| 20:36.09 | Jamash | lawl |
| 20:36.10 | Mirrormn | we had a single target slow assigned to each add =S |
| 20:36.24 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: That's always awsome |
| 20:36.25 | foxlit | "the best crowd control for humanoids in game" ? |
| 20:36.34 | nebula169 | Xyphoid: lol its funny because pretty much every hunter we ever trialed on dbs did that |
| 20:36.46 | Jamash | I don't think I ever taunted saurfang... |
| 20:36.54 | Dagmar | I've managed to do it once. |
| 20:37.06 | Xyphoid | i can't really talk since i deathgripped maly |
| 20:37.07 | Xyphoid | but |
| 20:37.13 | Dagmar | That finger immediately slammed down on the Feign Death button too |
| 20:37.32 | Dagmar | Saurfang ran like, three feet and ran back. People were WTFing over Vent |
| 20:37.56 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: You can actually DG maly? Whoa. heh |
| 20:38.06 | Jamash | now the time I kited drak into lord valthalak, THAT was epic |
| 20:38.09 | Dagmar | I Figured you'd get the "Ass is too fat" message |
| 20:38.13 | Xyphoid | it doesn't move him but it does taunt him |
| 20:38.20 | nebula169 | assume he ment it missed a spark |
| 20:38.41 | Xinhuan | yep you can |
| 20:39.02 | Xinhuan | it happens a lot too, when you try to grip a Spark, but the spark dies so you lose it as a target, and it instead grips the nearest target = Malygos |
| 20:39.15 | Jamash | good times |
| 20:39.19 | Dagmar | Oh god that is my hands-down favorite part of the interface |
| 20:39.31 | Dagmar | ...when it just picks the next nearest targets and shoots anyway. Fuun fun fun |
| 20:39.32 | Jamash | auto-targeting is rad |
| 20:39.47 | Jamash | "hey so I just pulled the gallery" |
| 20:39.53 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 20:40.15 | Dagmar | I would stand in the corners of the room in Kara when I could because I got sick of chain pulling the library |
| 20:40.27 | Jamash | UBRS was like a cavalcade of lulz |
| 20:40.32 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, when warlocks pulled Kara with what was it... Seed? |
| 20:40.38 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:40.39 | Jamash | SEED THROUGH WALLS |
| 20:40.42 | Xinhuan | seed thru walls lol |
| 20:40.45 | Arrowmaster | seed through floors |
| 20:40.54 | Dagmar | ...and it would always be some mob that's not even in front of you, like literally 3 o'clock low and just *pewpew* a bullet comes out of the gun sideways |
| 20:41.18 | Ackis | seeded ur mom through a wall |
| 20:41.31 | Lopeppeppy | It was through the floors that usually got us seriously dead. |
| 20:41.42 | Jamash | or when warlocks pulled because they were running forward to read books to try to get the worgen transformation |
| 20:41.46 | Dagmar | PoF flashbacks |
| 20:41.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah because when they came running they pulled everything between you and them with them |
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| 20:42.16 | Arrowmaster | my best pull ever was still 40 man naxx |
| 20:42.32 | Arrowmaster | when i pulled patchwerk from the entrance using eye of kilrogg |
| 20:42.47 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 20:42.49 | nebula169 | fuk eye |
| 20:42.50 | Arrowmaster | i also pulled the first boss in BT back when eye of kilrogg could melee |
| 20:42.57 | Arrowmaster | that was epic |
| 20:43.07 | nebula169 | locks used to do all sorts of annoying shit with that, lol |
| 20:43.13 | Adys | hai Ackis |
| 20:43.14 | Adys | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodhoof&cn=Adys |
| 20:43.17 | Adys | im over 9000! |
| 20:43.39 | Arrowmaster | in the new naxx you can still pull patchwerk from the entrance with eye of kilrogg but he and everything else reset when they get to the doorway |
| 20:43.57 | Arrowmaster | so its just this constant stream of mobs running at you and resetting |
| 20:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | Those dumb magic eels/fish in Karazhan, that you had to clear out for the quests. Someone would inevitably get too close from being impatient to get to the next quest step. |
| 20:44.06 | Arrowmaster | because they come back at you again after they reset |
| 20:44.09 | Dagmar | I think they should kill everyone and THEN reset |
| 20:44.24 | Arrowmaster | that did that in old naxx dagmar |
| 20:44.59 | Arrowmaster | i was one of the first on the realm to get old naxx attuned that didnt pay for it so the first they i did was go exploring with eye of kilrogg |
| 20:45.18 | Arrowmaster | getting it past the enemies and to patchwerk was actually really fucking hard |
| 20:45.44 | Shirik | still runs around with "Hand of A'dal" |
| 20:46.18 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, it's adorable! |
| 20:46.34 | Ackis | hai adys I'm insane |
| 20:47.57 | Ackis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderlord&cn=Ackis |
| 20:48.40 | Shirik | so um |
| 20:48.43 | Shirik | Best part of the shattering |
| 20:48.44 | Dagmar | OOoo you finally got a motorcycle yay! |
| 20:48.59 | Shirik | Compare http://www.wowpedia.org/File:WorldMap-World.jpg to http://www.wowpedia.org/File:WorldMap-World-cata.jpg |
| 20:49.03 | Ackis | yeah I got it and my other dark talbuk last night |
| 20:49.07 | Dagmar | So we're not going to have a big-ass dragon running around barbecuing the countryside after all? |
| 20:49.08 | Shirik | The shattering has destroyed the sea monsters to the east and west of icecrown |
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| 20:49.34 | Cide1 | and that ship! |
| 20:49.41 | Dagmar | Er... east of Icecrown? I thought that was land. |
| 20:49.55 | Adys | ~failrik |
| 20:49.56 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 20:49.57 | Dagmar | You talking about Dailies Landing or whatever? |
| 20:50.02 | Adys | he means northrendf |
| 20:50.04 | Adys | -f |
| 20:50.07 | Jamash | Shirik thinks northrend = icecrown |
| 20:50.11 | Shirik | sorry |
| 20:50.13 | Shirik | I meant northrend |
| 20:50.16 | Adys | dont apologize |
| 20:50.19 | Shirik | I'm working on an ATAM right now! |
| 20:50.20 | Adys | you're beyond apology |
| 20:50.22 | Shirik | my mind is mush |
| 20:50.23 | Cide1 | technically |
| 20:50.28 | Dagmar | Hmm... So... there were sea monsters? |
| 20:50.30 | Cide1 | the sea monsters are west and east of icecrown |
| 20:50.30 | Shirik | YEAH TECHNICALLY I WAS RIGHT |
| 20:50.54 | Cide1 | you're being short-sighted if you only look to northrend when looking east |
| 20:51.03 | Jamash | Shirik: Is your procedure iso 9000 compliant? |
| 20:51.05 | Adys | shirik is always /technically/ right |
| 20:51.11 | Dagmar | I just figured the place was surrounded by fatigue zones. Are you sayin' we can just hope or gryphons and fly there from EK/K now? |
| 20:51.15 | Adys | he's never properly right |
| 20:51.18 | Dagmar | s/hope/hop/ |
| 20:51.34 | Adys | Dagmar: he means the artwork on the maps |
| 20:51.35 | Shirik | hell no Jamash |
| 20:51.38 | Dagmar | I mean I *know* the southern border was protected by a fatigue zone |
| 20:51.43 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 20:51.44 | Shirik | I'm doing enough to get a good grade and nothing more |
| 20:52.06 | Lopeppeppy | ... Shirik! |
| 20:52.27 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:52.36 | Jamash | from the description on wikipedia, ATAM, as far as I can tell, consists of "get everyone in a room and talk about stuff" |
| 20:52.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:53.02 | Shirik | I have to prepare for it though |
| 20:53.07 | Shirik | we're doing it in an hour and a half or so |
| 20:53.18 | Jamash | do you have a dry erase marker? |
| 20:53.40 | Shirik | it's a classroom, of course we do |
| 20:53.43 | Jamash | then you're done |
| 20:54.00 | Shirik | >< |
| 20:54.47 | Jamash | just draw a tesseract and label the vertices "Quality" and "Synergism" |
| 20:55.21 | Dagmar | Good plan |
| 20:56.21 | Dagmar | You should also, of course, be sure to ask what the plan is in case of zombie apocalyps. |
| 20:56.43 | Jamash | gotta have brains for zombies to want them, middle management is safe |
| 20:57.31 | Dagmar | Yeah, but at least it makes it look like you're paying attention. |
| 20:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | We're not unreasonable, I mean, no one's gonna eat your eyes. |
| 20:57.55 | Dagmar | If you're doing ATAM with middle-managers who don't write code, it's also as valid a question as any. |
| 20:57.56 | Xyphoid | is there a better example of emergent synergistic crowdsourcing than a zombie plague |
| 20:57.59 | Jamash | I was playing L4D2 and when I turned on the jukebox it played that song |
| 20:58.17 | Jamash | Xyphoid: don't forget viral |
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| 20:58.27 | Xyphoid | viral is so 2007 |
| 20:59.16 | cbreak | Xyphoid: tell that to the black plague |
| 20:59.18 | Dagmar | Middle managers are why PHP makes me sad |
| 20:59.37 | Adys | php is why everything makes me sad |
| 20:59.38 | cbreak | (I know that was a bacterium, not a virus...) |
| 20:59.41 | Jamash | we need an app so that people can update their infection status in realtime and broadcast that status to all the user's social networks |
| 21:00.12 | cbreak | it's called a "Computer Virus" :) |
| 21:00.16 | durcyn | searching Yelp for brains returns surprisingly frew results |
| 21:00.23 | Dagmar | heh |
| 21:00.29 | durcyn | few* |
| 21:00.41 | dardack | ahh man i'm a shaman, what answers do you need to be a DK |
| 21:00.46 | Jamash | dang, it looks like brains4zombies expired |
| 21:01.03 | Dagmar | You'd be able to monitor global infection rates by checking Google's hot queries list. As the infection rates go up, so will queries for braaaaiiiinssss... |
| 21:01.37 | Dagmar | I doubt it'll spike as fast as the Michael Jackson queries |
| 21:02.03 | Jamash | http://web.archive.org/web/20060101064110/http://www.brains4zombies.com/ |
| 21:02.58 | |Jelly| | ohlawdy ... servers are down. what ever will I do?! |
| 21:03.03 | Mirrormn | mmm maintenance extended another 4 hours |
| 21:03.10 | Jamash | log on the ptr and troll durotar general chat |
| 21:03.13 | Cide1 | what |
| 21:03.13 | Mirrormn | who could have possibly anticipated that |
| 21:03.17 | Shirik | yeah |
| 21:03.22 | Shirik | 8 PM is the estimate now |
| 21:03.28 | |Jelly| | The guy who got off work early for the sundering! |
| 21:03.28 | Ackis | I wonder if my achievement points will go up today at all |
| 21:03.30 | Cide1 | 8 pm? |
| 21:03.34 | Shirik | I know what they're doing honestly |
| 21:03.39 | Mirrormn | 5pm est |
| 21:03.40 | Cide1 | it was 1 pm last time I checked |
| 21:03.47 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 21:03.56 | Cide1 | 1 pm pst + 4 hours is not 8 pm |
| 21:04.02 | Mirrormn | er wait |
| 21:04.04 | Jamash | 5pm PST 8pm EST |
| 21:04.05 | Mirrormn | 5pm pst |
| 21:04.08 | Mirrormn | 8pm est |
| 21:04.10 | Shirik | They extended it to 5 PM PST so that everyone can go home and start |
| 21:04.11 | Mirrormn | time zones r hard :< |
| 21:04.12 | Iriel | It's been 5PM PST for quite some time |
| 21:04.12 | Shirik | immediately |
| 21:04.29 | Cide1 | I haven't looked for quite some time |
| 21:04.31 | Mirrormn | it wasn't 5pm when I checked 20 minutes ago |
| 21:04.36 | Dagmar | Iriel: What? |
| 21:04.49 | durcyn | they moved it to 5PM at 11:30 AM, so, you lose |
| 21:04.50 | Dagmar | You have your time zones backwards, Iriel. |
| 21:05.06 | Cide1 | time zones? |
| 21:05.15 | Dagmar | Oh wait, you were talking about when the end was changed |
| 21:05.16 | Jamash | Dagmar: The ETA has been 5PM, not the current time |
| 21:05.34 | Baps | so, who had the over earlier? =) |
| 21:06.00 | Jamash | my prediction of 4 time extensions is still in the running |
| 21:06.42 | Dagmar | Pfft. That they wouldn't hit the first deadline was pointless odds |
| 21:06.48 | EvilPete | I predict over 9000 minutes late. |
| 21:06.53 | Mirrormn | I predicted 100 extensions |
| 21:06.59 | Baps | well, I set the over/under at 5pm PST |
| 21:07.00 | Mirrormn | that might be a little exaggerated |
| 21:07.05 | Baps | around 11am PST |
| 21:07.05 | Mirrormn | but I'm gonna stand by it |
| 21:07.07 | |Jelly| | Ok so if I skipped the video ... how would I go about watching it now? |
| 21:07.10 | Cide1 | I predirected infinity but continuous extensions |
| 21:07.12 | Cide1 | do I win |
| 21:07.15 | |Jelly| | I didn't have my headphones handy :( |
| 21:07.31 | Mirrormn | you have to be closest without going under |
| 21:07.44 | Jamash | without going *over* |
| 21:07.45 | Mirrormn | so infinity would probably lose |
| 21:07.48 | EvilPete | Yeah, 9000 minutes is 2.5 hours. Way off. |
| 21:08.01 | Mirrormn | Jamash: that's only on the Price is Right |
| 21:08.06 | Jamash | |Jelly|: See that button labeled "Cinematics" on the right side of the login screen? |
| 21:08.14 | Mirrormn | in this situation, closest without going under makes lots more sense |
| 21:08.42 | |Jelly| | Woah Jamash! WOAH! (Thanks) |
| 21:08.48 | Xyphoid | EvilPete: wut |
| 21:10.05 | Jamash | 9000 minutes is most of a week |
| 21:10.16 | EvilPete | oh wait. math fail |
| 21:10.31 | EvilPete | seconds, not minutes... oops |
| 21:12.28 | Shirik | 9001 seconds |
| 21:12.49 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:12.57 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 21:12.58 | Fisker | heavy weapons guy touched my penis |
| 21:13.04 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:13.23 | Jamash | my blood! he punched out all my blood! |
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| 21:13.36 | Angayelle | hay peoplez |
| 21:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | hey ho hey ho |
| 21:13.59 | Jamash | heeeeeey |
| 21:14.57 | Fisker | what should i do Lopeppeppy ? |
| 21:15.04 | Lopeppeppy | Put on socks, Fisker. |
| 21:15.50 | Fisker | entire Lopeppeppy is babies |
| 21:16.44 | Lopeppeppy | Purple sparkle eats dandelions? |
| 21:16.46 | Angayelle | finally got got my copy of wowprogramming, the perfect height, now my bed is horizontal again |
| 21:16.55 | Angayelle | thanks jnwhiteh |
| 21:17.28 | Fisker | i would've thought wowprogramming was kind of obsolete now |
| 21:17.33 | durcyn | i believe the correct response to that is "now you can get fucked without falling on your head" |
| 21:17.47 | Lopeppeppy | that presupposes amatory activity, durcyn. |
| 21:18.05 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: doesn't everyone? |
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| 21:18.15 | Lopeppeppy | presuppose it? No, I assume the opposite. |
| 21:18.19 | Angayelle | there is howto which are rather useful at my level of knowledge |
| 21:18.50 | router54__ | Question for anyone that knows about tail calls. Will the following count as a tail call?... |
| 21:19.14 | router54__ | if something[something] then return true, call(something) else return false end |
| 21:19.24 | router54__ | would call(something) get 'tailed' properly? |
| 21:20.08 | Arrowmaster | i dont think that is |
| 21:20.15 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* He said tail call. |
| 21:20.44 | Fisker | haste my friend are you there? |
| 21:20.46 | router54__ | I know it's the last action performed by the function, but will it get treated as such since it's part of a return list? |
| 21:20.57 | Jamash | probably not |
| 21:21.07 | Jamash | depends on the language |
| 21:21.15 | router54__ | ......lua |
| 21:21.16 | Cide1 | seems to be lua |
| 21:21.19 | Cide1 | www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie, beloved people. I wish you all an awesome Thanksgiving holiday, in whatever way you do or do not celebrate, particularly if you celebrate it by exploring what Deathwing has done to Azeroth. Stay good! |
| 21:21.32 | Jamash | hokay peppy |
| 21:21.40 | Jamash | you too |
| 21:21.49 | Lopeppeppy | hugs Cairenn and Lunessa and Shirik and oh! just everyone! |
| 21:21.58 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 21:22.00 | Lunessa | Have a good trip Lopeppeppy |
| 21:22.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah that doesnt seem to be a tail call |
| 21:22.21 | Cide1 | google calculator needs to do timezone conversions |
| 21:22.22 | sylvanaar_work | router54__: if you are brave enough to try my lua ide, it shows you which of your returns are tail calls |
| 21:22.40 | Cide1 | don't do it |
| 21:22.42 | Cide1 | it's based off eclipse |
| 21:22.45 | Cide1 | maybe |
| 21:22.49 | Cide1 | if it is DON'T DO IT |
| 21:22.55 | sylvanaar_work | you can also just get a listing and look for the TAILCALL operator |
| 21:22.58 | Jamash | a tail call = return g(...) |
| 21:23.19 | router54__ | I this much, Jamash. sylvanaar_work: what's your IDE? |
| 21:23.29 | sylvanaar_work | Cide1: i hate eclipse thx |
| 21:23.40 | router54__ | oh wait-- doesn't the Lua package have a bytecode thing? |
| 21:23.47 | router54__ | I think that tells me tail calls. |
| 21:23.48 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 21:23.52 | sylvanaar_work | TAILCALL |
| 21:23.56 | sylvanaar_work | in the listing |
| 21:24.02 | Cide1 | kinda like sylvanaar said a minute ago |
| 21:24.05 | router54__ | awesome, that'll wrok |
| 21:26.27 | Mirrormn | last time I tried to use sylvanaar's IDE, it started having a 1-2s latency between any keyboard activity and text actually appearing on screen |
| 21:27.05 | sylvanaar_work | its in developement, its not perfect |
| 21:27.21 | nevcairiel | yeah it doesnt like big files |
| 21:28.01 | EvilPete | Most epic new achievement: "[I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am!]" |
| 21:28.09 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, i want to get it finished feature-wise before it do performance tuning |
| 21:28.32 | dardack | is it better then scite? |
| 21:28.42 | sylvanaar_work | matter of taste |
| 21:28.53 | Cide1 | do you develop the ide in the ide? |
| 21:28.55 | sylvanaar_work | scite + luainspect is pretty good |
| 21:28.57 | nebula169 | scite is an ide? |
| 21:29.01 | sylvanaar_work | yes Cide1 I do |
| 21:29.03 | Mirrormn | I think there is a difference between "optimization" and "making sure it doesn't use so much computation that it's literally unusable" |
| 21:29.26 | Cide | I think there is a difference between beta and release |
| 21:29.39 | dardack | as far as my definition of an IDE scite is an IDE |
| 21:29.44 | dardack | but my def could be wrong |
| 21:29.58 | Mirrormn | DE, sure... I, I dunno |
| 21:30.11 | Guest50882 | ... |
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| 21:30.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:31.30 | Mirrormn | ("development environment, sure... 'integrated', I dunno") |
| 21:32.01 | Cide- | that's taking the meaning of IDE a bit far |
| 21:32.12 | Cide- | "we can't call this a beta because we technically never had an alpha" |
| 21:33.44 | Adys | <Worgen Donors> |
| 21:34.27 | cogwheel | the whole point of the I in IDE is that you have a bunch of different tools integrated together: text edtior, compiler, debugger, runtime, project management, etc.... |
| 21:34.56 | Mirrormn | that argument seems like simply a very roundabout way to imply that "IDE" does not necessarily have the meaning that the components of its acronym imply |
| 21:35.24 | nebula169 | i suppose you could consider any text editor that can call another program and display its output as an ide |
| 21:35.32 | Adys | an IDE is the integration of the DE in one program by definition |
| 21:36.38 | sylvanaar_work | its how its packaged. they come together in a distribution - all the various tools. you dont have to set it up yourself per-se the integration has been done for you |
| 21:36.51 | Adys | so as far as the DE is concerned, whether you need a compiler, debugger, documentation, auto-complete, multi-file lookups and so on and so on, or just a text editor, if it's JUST a text editor it cant be an IDE too |
| 21:36.56 | Adys | because it doesnt integrate anything else |
| 21:37.09 | Cide- | last I heard scite comes packaged with your mom |
| 21:37.12 | Mirrormn | I agree with Adys |
| 21:37.12 | Cide- | how is that for integration |
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| 21:37.19 | nebula169 | too much bloat |
| 21:37.23 | Adys | last i heard, it does that because yours is too heavy to package |
| 21:37.31 | cogwheel | ~nebula169++ |
| 21:37.33 | Cide- | yep |
| 21:37.42 | Adys | hey cide |
| 21:37.46 | Cide- | hi |
| 21:37.52 | Adys | your sister's so fat, she got rejected by the ubuntu livecd team |
| 21:38.29 | Cide- | your sister's so fat you have to mapreduce her to produce any useful output |
| 21:39.09 | Jamash | your sister's so fat that [Joke overflow at 0xDEADBEEF, stack dumped] |
| 21:39.12 | Adys | your "your sister" jokes are so lame even your sister doesn't like them |
| 21:39.17 | dardack | scite has too much bloat? |
| 21:39.44 | nebula169 | dardack: when packaged with Adys' mom |
| 21:39.50 | dardack | oh right heh |
| 21:40.10 | EvilPete | I love new tinkertown music. |
| 21:40.19 | Cide- | I love new WOW SERVERS ARE DOWN |
| 21:40.43 | EvilPete | That's what PTR is fore.. substituion of wow fix for the day |
| 21:44.21 | Jamash | did I hallucinate the announcement that mob HP and damage were increasing for all 61+ creatures? |
| 21:44.31 | Ackis | any wowi admins alive right now? |
| 21:45.16 | olafski | no jamash |
| 21:45.32 | Ackis | if so can you merge http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18850-RemoveRaidFrames.html into http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18851-RemoveRaidFrames.html ? (based on author request on a diff IRC server) |
| 21:45.38 | Jamash | olafski: well, what happened to it? |
| 21:45.48 | olafski | dunno? |
| 21:45.51 | olafski | is it not still happening? |
| 21:46.02 | Jamash | I was on ptr and I didn't see any change |
| 21:46.06 | olafski | hm |
| 21:46.15 | Jamash | maybe it won't happen until cata proper |
| 21:46.15 | olafski | maybe not HP.. they definitely said damage though |
| 21:46.45 | Jamash | it deed seem like Icecrown mobs were hitting me harder |
| 21:46.48 | Jamash | *did* |
| 21:47.24 | olafski | didn't they say something like 2.4x at level 80, ramping up to 4x at lvl 82? |
| 21:47.31 | olafski | maybe it was 2.4x at 70 actually.. dunno :/ |
| 21:47.39 | Jamash | I donut remember |
| 21:47.49 | EvilPete | olafski: 3x at 83 I thought. |
| 21:47.53 | olafski | I remember thinking it was not really necessary.. my rogue and warrior have to bandage after every 3 mobs anyway while leveling |
| 21:51.18 | nebula169 | olafski: in wrath or cata? |
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| 21:52.17 | EvilPete | In 4.0 |
| 21:53.02 | EvilPete | It was a scaling change for cata's benefit, but it affected 81-83 npc's in dungeons/raids too much so they scaled them back to normal. |
| 21:53.09 | nebula169 | ah, suppose i should scroll up before commenting |
| 21:53.36 | Jamash | even with recuperate / bloodthirst? |
| 21:53.46 | nebula169 | yea, it was suppose to affect hyjal+ mobs, but was owning people in raids |
| 21:54.16 | nebula169 | if you have downtime now as a warrior or rogue, you're doing something wrong, i'd think |
| 21:54.33 | EvilPete | Yeah, trash was 2-shotting 264 geared tanks |
| 21:54.35 | nebula169 | 100% uptime on recuperate, and bloodcraze/field dressing/victory rush as a warrior |
| 21:56.44 | olafski | nebula169: wrath |
| 21:58.08 | olafski | I don't think recuperate existed when I last played my rogue oO |
| 21:58.29 | Jamash | yeah that's a 4.0 ability |
| 21:59.15 | Zasurus | So has the US already had the world shatter? |
| 21:59.37 | dardack | 5pm PST |
| 21:59.39 | Cide- | in like 4 hours |
| 21:59.41 | dardack | so about 3 more hours |
| 21:59.45 | dardack | if things go to their plans |
| 21:59.47 | dardack | which it won't |
| 22:00.01 | Cide- | by that standard it will never be released :P |
| 22:00.08 | Jamash | it's a convergent series |
| 22:00.09 | Cide- | since they've already delayed it twice |
| 22:00.14 | Cide- | no? :P |
| 22:00.18 | Cide- | +2h, +4h |
| 22:00.25 | Cide- | that's pretty divergent |
| 22:00.43 | Cide- | given the trivial geometric and/or linear representations |
| 22:05.31 | Mirrormn | luainspect does not work with my scite =/ |
| 22:06.19 | Mirrormn | I'm guessing because it is wowinterface flavor |
| 22:07.30 | Jamash | I think now is a perfect time to torrent the episodes of The Walking Dead I missed |
| 22:08.15 | jnwhiteh | I am bored. |
| 22:08.23 | Cide- | me too |
| 22:08.26 | Cide- | give me wow or give me death |
| 22:08.28 | Jamash | oh cool ep1 is up on hulu |
| 22:08.30 | jnwhiteh | I have wow |
| 22:08.36 | Cide- | damn you |
| 22:08.42 | jnwhiteh | but I dunno what I would do |
| 22:08.43 | Jamash | get on the ptr and noodle around |
| 22:08.44 | Zasurus | I have wow 2 :P |
| 22:08.50 | jnwhiteh | maybe I could herbalise. |
| 22:09.10 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: add custom icon support to tomtom |
| 22:09.20 | jnwhiteh | that is never going to happen. |
| 22:09.23 | jnwhiteh | tomtom will die before that point |
| 22:09.30 | jnwhiteh | tomtomlite will take over |
| 22:09.32 | Ackis | muhahahha |
| 22:09.35 | jnwhiteh | and there are no notes in tomtomlite |
| 22:11.01 | Ackis | what rep do the new goblin mounts require? |
| 22:11.04 | Ackis | do/does |
| 22:11.36 | Jamash | bilgewater cartel, I would assume |
| 22:11.54 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: in #curseforge 15:11Zasurus@project tomtomlite haha |
| 22:12.06 | Ackis | I wonder if I can grind it to exalted in a few days |
| 22:12.14 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: I don't get it |
| 22:12.28 | Ackis | he tried looking for the project on curse |
| 22:12.30 | Zasurus | I looked for tomtomlite on curseforge |
| 22:12.34 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 22:12.37 | jnwhiteh | its local only right now P |
| 22:12.38 | Ackis | is trying to tease him here |
| 22:12.41 | Zasurus | :D |
| 22:12.49 | Ackis | will tomtomlite support custom icons then? |
| 22:12.59 | nevcairiel | Zasurus: the bot is here as well. |
| 22:13.18 | Zasurus | Yer but thought less ppl would notice in curseforge... ;-) |
| 22:13.26 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: nope. |
| 22:13.28 | Zasurus | And was to lazy to fire up ff |
| 22:13.42 | nebula169 | don't feel bad, i looked for it, too |
| 22:13.59 | Ackis | so the exalted title is now 45 reputations? |
| 22:14.15 | Jamash | yeah |
| 22:14.22 | Jamash | dude in my guild just got it |
| 22:14.34 | jnwhiteh | huh wowhead's db is fucked, for some things it seems. |
| 22:14.36 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowhead.com/item=8838#gathered-from-object |
| 22:15.41 | Ackis | Jamash: I have it already and am sitting at 50 exalted factions (bloodsail and ashen verdict are the only 2 I have that aren't exalted) |
| 22:15.57 | Ackis | I was hoping for a newer title past 40 =/ |
| 22:16.54 | Mirrormn | ooooh shiny |
| 22:17.00 | Mirrormn | wowhead has a maelstrom |
| 22:17.23 | Zasurus | lol hasn't that been there for months :P |
| 22:18.00 | EvilPete | There should be a feat/title for exalted with the dire maul librarians... |
| 22:18.29 | durcyn | there is a feat, i believe |
| 22:18.33 | Arrowmaster | they already said there will be |
| 22:18.33 | Lunessa | Hrm, I guess I'll have to get more reps to exalted then. |
| 22:18.48 | Ackis | there will be sometime after cataclysm |
| 22:19.05 | durcyn | shendralar's removed today though, right? |
| 22:19.14 | Lunessa | Ackis, I have 42, and in beta I had 52-ish |
| 22:19.36 | EvilPete | Yes, the requirement for them is removed today |
| 22:19.51 | Ackis | you didn't lose rep did you Lunessa? |
| 22:19.56 | Angayelle | aaaaaah i can't stand that stupid combustion anymore |
| 22:20.15 | Lunessa | What do you mean, Ackis? |
| 22:20.18 | jnwhiteh | Where's the best place to farm sungrass? |
| 22:20.42 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Ferals and Hinterlands previously, now I have no idea. |
| 22:20.53 | jnwhiteh | I'm still in the old world |
| 22:21.11 | jnwhiteh | I'll try Ferelas, can fly there easily. |
| 22:21.12 | Ackis | Lunessa: wait I read it wrong my bad |
| 22:21.14 | Zasurus | You need a :p at the end of that jnwhiteh |
| 22:22.04 | Ackis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Thunderlord&cn=Ackis&gn=Corrupt |
| 22:22.11 | Zasurus | So then Jnwhiteh... TomTomLite... How can you make TomTom do less! It is perfect LOL It only points you to your target and puts a blob on the map... |
| 22:22.21 | Lunessa | Bah, I have 41 exalted reps. I'm lazier than I thought. |
| 22:22.31 | jnwhiteh | its more conceptual than anything Zasurus |
| 22:22.33 | Jamash | tomtom lite doesn't do either of those things |
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| 22:22.40 | Cide- | oh snap |
| 22:22.41 | Jamash | you just install it and suddenly you know where to go |
| 22:22.48 | Zasurus | LOL |
| 22:23.54 | Ackis | I'm up to 41 feats of strength, wonder how many that'll increase by when I log in |
| 22:24.07 | Jamash | you know every achievement converted to a feat loses you points |
| 22:24.15 | Ackis | I know |
| 22:24.25 | Ackis | but I should gain some with added achievements I have done already |
| 22:25.23 | Ackis | ie: loremaster of eastern kingdoms and kalimdor are having sub-achievements added |
| 22:25.24 | Lunessa | Holy crap Ackis... 41 Feats of Strength? |
| 22:25.44 | Ackis | aye Lunessa most are for the special pets/mounts you get |
| 22:26.04 | Ackis | I don't have the BC tabard one :( |
| 22:26.22 | nevcairiel | you failed the BC launch event, eh |
| 22:26.25 | Lunessa | I have 25 FoS but some of them are achievements that got converted when they were no longer 'doable' |
| 22:26.26 | Zasurus | Who has the collectors editions? |
| 22:26.52 | Lunessa | Oh, and Unkle can't have the BC launch event since he's a BC toon. |
| 22:26.52 | Ackis | I didn't play during it nevcairiel |
| 22:27.06 | Zasurus | I got BC, WoLK collectors Oh and 6 Cata... 8-O |
| 22:27.25 | sylvanaar_work | 6 |
| 22:27.34 | Jamash | I have CE of bc and wrath but not classic and I'm not getting cata |
| 22:27.59 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y4pTTLnKTY << amusing |
| 22:28.01 | Lunessa | I still need to find a murky code from back in the day. |
| 22:28.02 | Zasurus | Yer was ment to be 3... but play.com messed me around so I ordered them from Game aswell |
| 22:28.40 | Ackis | 3 original wow CE, BC, Wrath CE, blizzcon ones, SC2 CE, Mini-Tyreal are kinda pet ones |
| 22:28.48 | Ackis | Lunessa: I know 2 people who have one :'( |
| 22:29.09 | Jamash | I want tyreal :( |
| 22:29.09 | Ackis | Lunessa: which server is Unkle on again? |
| 22:29.19 | Lunessa | US Kirin Tor |
| 22:29.28 | Zasurus | Ackis: Damn I wanted the orig one... not paying £500 for it though! |
| 22:29.50 | Ackis | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Thunderlord,Kirin%20Tor&n=Ackis,Unkle |
| 22:29.58 | Zasurus | Also want the blizzcon polobear mount |
| 22:30.13 | Jamash | polar bear mount is pretty rad |
| 22:30.38 | Zasurus | Yer nearly purchesed one... OH xmas is coming and nobody knows what to get me! |
| 22:30.42 | Zasurus | has an idea... ;) |
| 22:31.03 | Lunessa | I have the polar bear mount. I was able to talk someone out of the code for it. |
| 22:31.09 | Zasurus | LOL |
| 22:31.10 | Sixen | lol |
| 22:31.17 | Jamash | I went to blizzcon back when it was possible to get tickets |
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| 22:31.33 | Lunessa | I couldn't go that year. Money was way too tight. |
| 22:31.37 | Sixen | I wish I had a Tyrael... No way I could get to WWI though. |
| 22:31.43 | cogwheel | pets his new 2tb hd |
| 22:32.00 | EvilPete | cogwheel: I heard it was all your fault! |
| 22:32.01 | Zasurus | Oh yer that the flying angle pet |
| 22:32.07 | Angayelle | so far europ had only one blizzcon, it's time to make another one there |
| 22:32.09 | cogwheel | emphasis on "was"! :P |
| 22:32.29 | Angayelle | or was another one in europ, can't remember |
| 22:32.43 | Ackis | there have been a couple WWI's I thought? |
| 22:32.47 | Lunessa | Ackis: You're far more achievement driven than I! *shaes fist* |
| 22:32.55 | Lunessa | *shakes fist* |
| 22:33.28 | Sixen | Only way to get Tyrael was at WWI08 |
| 22:33.29 | Ackis | Lunessa: you have more overall points |
| 22:33.33 | EvilPete | One of my friends got real-first LK kill, the associated wing achievements, and 'its over 9000' all at once. |
| 22:33.51 | EvilPete | realm* |
| 22:33.54 | Lunessa | Yes, but... you've done more of the 'annoying' ones. |
| 22:34.13 | Ackis | What else are you supposed to do when you don't raid? :P |
| 22:34.23 | Sixen | PvP! |
| 22:34.25 | Zasurus | Make addons :P |
| 22:34.30 | Ackis | heh |
| 22:34.35 | Ackis | I'm not very good at pvp |
| 22:34.40 | Jamash | make addons while pvping |
| 22:34.43 | Sixen | ;p |
| 22:35.01 | Lunessa | I'm terrible at PVP - only being an OP shaman makes it possible for me not to be obliterated every time... (lulz) |
| 22:35.48 | Zasurus | I hated the world events that required PvP... I always got owned... :( |
| 22:36.18 | Ackis | @realmstatus us Thunderlord |
| 22:36.30 | Lunessa | Me too. That's why "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been" took me so long to get. |
| 22:36.46 | Ackis | I focused on getting that one for the 310% mount |
| 22:36.59 | tekkub | thank god I see the truth of achievements |
| 22:37.01 | Ackis | !realmstatus us Thunderlord |
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| 22:37.09 | tekkub | feats of strength, sure those are worth getting |
| 22:37.16 | tekkub | but achievements == OCD points |
| 22:37.16 | EvilPete | I got 'long strange trip'.. I almost quit the game over the children's week ones last year.. finally did it this year. |
| 22:37.25 | tekkub | I *don't* want a score on that, thanks |
| 22:37.27 | Lunessa | tekkub: DCO points. |
| 22:37.28 | Jamash | <3 long strange trip |
| 22:37.37 | Zasurus | Took me a long time as I quit WoW for a while then needed to do the year again :( but got the mount! JUST in time for Bliz to bring out pay for 310% :( |
| 22:37.57 | Lunessa | Zasurus: Which YOU got for free. :) |
| 22:38.18 | Ackis | Lunessa: CDO you mean :P |
| 22:38.37 | Jamash | I certainly won't pay 5000g for 310% unless money becomes 10x easier to get in cata |
| 22:38.48 | EvilPete | I did the 4 children's week achievements and then had to wait to join brew of the month club... I stopped playing for months mostly because of that damn achievement and when I picked it up, brew of the month wasn't obtainable - not enough tokens left. |
| 22:38.49 | Zasurus | Money is easy... |
| 22:38.50 | Lunessa | Hahah "Oops, Something Is Broken. You can blame Deathwing for this little mishap." |
| 22:39.09 | Xinhuan | does ackis want to compare achievements with me? :) |
| 22:39.25 | Ackis | Xinhuan: I know you have more, have you broken 10k yet? |
| 22:39.28 | Zasurus | Would have taken a LOT quicker to get 5k gold than the damn year event |
| 22:39.35 | Xinhuan | 11.3k or something like that |
| 22:39.46 | EvilPete | My favorite quote so far: Initial reports from shaman in the area that were available at time of publishing suggest that this is hinting at something far more sinister. One such shaman, a one 'Krunkmaster' from Proudmoore was quoted as saying "This is hinting at something far more sinister." |
| 22:40.05 | Zasurus | lol |
| 22:40.56 | Zasurus | Every time I get 18-19k gold for the Traverlers mount my GirlFriends Bday comes along and she convinces me I should give it all her instead of a present! :( It's happened twice now... LOL |
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| 22:41.49 | EvilPete | That's the downside of wow-playing girlfriends. |
| 22:41.50 | Lunessa | I have the traveler's tundra mammoth and a chopper. |
| 22:42.44 | Zasurus | Yer but it's MUCH better than my mate... his other half doesn't play WoW and made him sell his account as he needed to spend more time tidying the house and stuff! ;-) |
| 22:43.10 | Lunessa | Well, he probably did. I don't get much housework done on raid days. |
| 22:44.23 | Zasurus | Yer... I started installing a new firealarm system.. then started playing WoW again and a year later the hall carpet is still up and the floorboards are not scrued down! ;-) |
| 22:45.17 | cralor | servers are up |
| 22:45.25 | Zasurus | Damn you! |
| 22:46.56 | Ackis | http://gawker.com/5696300/what-200000-in-student-debt-looks-like I almost felt bad for her when I saw that she had a year studying overseas and did summer classes... |
| 22:48.08 | cbreak | funny |
| 22:48.18 | cbreak | I never took up a loan in my life, and I still got a masters degree |
| 22:48.27 | Jamash | in science? |
| 22:48.35 | cbreak | yes |
| 22:48.44 | cbreak | Master of Science in Software Engineering |
| 22:48.52 | Jamash | cool |
| 22:49.02 | Shirik | yay cbreak |
| 22:49.05 | Shirik | thank you for not doing computer science |
| 22:49.06 | cbreak | public schools are great :) |
| 22:49.14 | Shirik | software engineering is vastly superior |
| 22:49.19 | cbreak | it is computer science. |
| 22:49.21 | Jamash | what's the difference |
| 22:49.33 | cbreak | the whole bunch is called computer science, but there are different degrees here |
| 22:49.36 | nevcairiel | its just named differently in different countrys |
| 22:50.19 | cbreak | Theoretical Computer Science, Distributed Systems, Databases, ... |
| 22:50.23 | Lunessa | Ok, so has anyone used the Curse raid tracker? |
| 22:50.30 | cbreak | theoretical computer science is ... very theoretical :) |
| 22:50.49 | Zasurus | I started my course doing Computer Science then switched from webservices to Java for one of my modules and then became Software Engineering! LOL |
| 22:50.53 | Shirik | no nevcairiel it's quite different |
| 22:51.19 | Shirik | jamash: software engineering incorporates aspects of quality software processes, etc. |
| 22:51.24 | Shirik | i.e., "don't just cowboy code everything" |
| 22:51.42 | nevcairiel | my university didnt call it that, but we did learn that |
| 22:51.44 | EvilPete | I studied electrical/electronic engineering first. The standing joke was "Never trust a programmer with a screwdriver". Then I switched to comp science.. there, the joke was "Never trust an engineer with a keyboard". So now I'm dangerous with both a screwdriver and a keyboard and just can't be trusted. |
| 22:51.56 | cbreak | Theoretical Computer Science is about satisfiability, algorithms, provable code, and so on |
| 22:51.57 | nevcairiel | especially when you translate the course name from your native language, it gets confusign :p |
| 22:52.02 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Probably not to the same degree, but perhaps |
| 22:52.03 | Xyphoid | i wish there'd been a software engineering degree - i managed to warp my comp sci degree in that direction but |
| 22:52.04 | cbreak | Software Engineering is about building programs |
| 22:52.25 | cbreak | but the whole bunch of them is here taught at the Department of Computer Science |
| 22:52.52 | Shirik | I guess the translation issue does rise up |
| 22:52.58 | EvilPete | My nature is that I'm more of a fixer, rather than a writer. |
| 22:53.12 | cbreak | debugging is fun, sometimes... :) |
| 22:53.40 | EvilPete | It pays my bills.. kernel crash dump analysis and fixing it for a living. |
| 22:53.41 | Shirik | debugging is much more fun when you have unit tests telling you what's wrong |
| 22:53.42 | Maldivia | ~wowalert |
| 22:53.42 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:53.43 | nevcairiel | I actually as well like debugging some application more then writing a new one |
| 22:53.44 | Shirik | I found this out yesterday |
| 22:53.55 | nevcairiel | Shirik: thats boring, thats not debugging, thats only fixing |
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| 22:54.06 | Shirik | it's still debugging... |
| 22:54.12 | Lunessa | new forums don't have .sigs? ARGH |
| 22:55.33 | cbreak | Shirik: Unit tests only tell you when something doesn't work, not why |
| 22:55.41 | Shirik | exactly |
| 22:55.47 | cbreak | I had a strange bug yesterday where it would not have helped a bit |
| 22:55.57 | Shirik | Well it's helping me out a lot right now :) |
| 22:55.59 | cbreak | (GUI artefacts in a QGraphicsView) |
| 22:56.09 | Shirik | It's better than having a top-level bug that you have no idea the root cause |
| 22:56.16 | cbreak | it's easy to see what's wrong... but not why |
| 22:56.19 | Zasurus | Can you now fly in dalaran in cata? |
| 22:56.23 | Angayelle | once in a while my events in COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED are not registered, is there something particular i should check ? |
| 22:56.27 | Shirik | that's why I said to nevcairiel it still involves debugging |
| 22:56.34 | cbreak | Zasurus: no |
| 22:56.40 | cbreak | not after you land |
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| 22:56.58 | Zasurus | Why do they always turn it on in the ptr and beta!? |
| 22:57.49 | foxlit | hm,20 eur for everything up to cataclysm :/ |
| 22:58.35 | cbreak | you can't fly there in beta either |
| 22:58.41 | cbreak | at least not when I tried it. |
| 22:58.43 | foxlit | on one side, that /is/ insanely cheap; on the other, I don't need a second account |
| 22:58.48 | cbreak | the mounts stay on the ground, and only jump |
| 22:59.02 | Zasurus | So just PTR then... |
| 22:59.08 | Cide- | foxlit: from where? |
| 22:59.11 | Cide- | or everywhere? |
| 22:59.35 | foxlit | Cide-: http://eu.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:1,f:1 |
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| 23:02.39 | Lunessa | foxlit: When I ponder those, I have to say, "but I don't need a third account." |
| 23:02.53 | foxlit | Lunessa: what are you using the second for? :) |
| 23:03.00 | Lunessa | Even though I really DO want one of those snazzy rocket mounts. |
| 23:03.02 | Angayelle | testing raid frames easily ? |
| 23:03.18 | foxlit | A guildmate is a tell away |
| 23:03.26 | Lunessa | foxlit: I 2-box old raids and and occasionally I needed room for more alts on the same server. |
| 23:03.49 | Angayelle | a second account is always up for a raid invite |
| 23:04.12 | Lunessa | Also, having two accounts means I can bid on my own neutral faction auction house auctions. |
| 23:04.13 | foxlit | is a bear with the strength to solo five gorillas. |
| 23:04.22 | foxlit | ^ auctions are nice, though |
| 23:05.20 | Lunessa | guild exp is going to wreak havoc on my alt-vanity guild. |
| 23:06.00 | Wobin | why? |
| 23:06.19 | Wobin | it doesn't penalise you if you don't do any guild stuff |
| 23:06.23 | Lunessa | because I'll be pulling alts into the real guild to make sure they help level it. |
| 23:06.27 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss << "Crit aimed shot from across the zone?" line is amusing |
| 23:08.51 | cogwheel | oh look ... realms |
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| 23:11.46 | Pneumatus | i thought i was getting a bargain when i bought the battle chest for £7.99 the other day |
| 23:11.57 | Pneumatus | spent more than 1p on petrol :< |
| 23:16.30 | cogwheel | why has auto-loot become a per-character setting? *grumble* |
| 23:18.50 | Mirrormn | yeah that doesn't really make any sense |
| 23:20.48 | Lunessa | Actually, I liked that. |
| 23:26.48 | durcyn | shouldn't even be an effing option in the first place |
| 23:27.36 | Zasurus | Why not! I like autoloot! :-P I think turning it off shouldn't be an option! Soo many times someone hasn't taken there stuff and I couldn't skin! :_P |
| 23:28.28 | Xinhuan | uh ackis |
| 23:28.33 | Xinhuan | did you complete the aq quest chain? |
| 23:30.31 | Angayelle | !api PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 23:30.32 | lua_bot | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED: Fires when the player changes targets (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED) |
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| 23:31.59 | Kraps | http://thisisindexed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/card2746.jpg |
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| 23:33.47 | Lulia | I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat and it's PINK |
| 23:34.53 | Kraps | "Informative Webinar -- Measuring Graphene Thickness with Raman Spectroscopy" |
| 23:37.30 | cogwheel | The boat is now diamonds. |
| 23:37.45 | Xyphoid | stuff's still down right |
| 23:37.58 | cogwheel | Xyphoid: was that a question? |
| 23:38.02 | cogwheel | and is "stuff" wow? |
| 23:38.05 | cogwheel | if so, no. |
| 23:38.36 | Xyphoid | yeah, to be more precise, in order to determine if i should nip home for lunch, are US servers up yet? |
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| 23:38.41 | cogwheel | yep |
| 23:38.49 | Xyphoid | choice, thanks |
| 23:39.02 | cogwheel | :) |
| 23:39.11 | Nobgul | it's all cogs fault |
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| 23:39.22 | cogwheel | that the realms are up? |
| 23:39.23 | cogwheel | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.26 | Dagmar | You're blaming cog for the servers being up? |
| 23:40.39 | Lulia | I must have downloaded the patch too early! :P |
| 23:41.09 | Lulia | Ahahahaha, so I downloaded the "second" patch and it almost just dropped me to my death in sw harbor when I logged back in. Thanks Blizz! |
| 23:41.48 | Dagmar | Lulia: Hahahah! |
| 23:42.08 | Dagmar | I actually made an effort to move my toons to "safe" places last night just in case. |
| 23:42.32 | Kraps | whos the armored boob person in the outland loading screen? |
| 23:42.41 | Dagmar | 'cuz there did appear to be a slight possibility that one might login and spawn in the middle of a stone parapet (which would suck) |
| 23:42.44 | Jamash | Kraps: You fail at warcraft III |
| 23:42.52 | Lulia | Well, they were supposed to move characters to safe places for the patch. But I had already downloaded that, flew to Valiance keep and found a purple square instead of a boat. I hopped on and then it d/ced me. Found out I needed to download another patch |
| 23:42.56 | Kraps | Jamash: yes |
| 23:43.04 | Lulia | When I log back in, I'm like 70 feet above the boat in SW harbor, falling |
| 23:43.04 | Jamash | they were supposed to teleport you to the nearest gy |
| 23:45.03 | Jamash | Kraps: You also fail at black temple |
| 23:45.59 | Kraps | Jamash: you fail at replying |
| 23:46.48 | Jamash | http://www.wowpedia.org/Maiev_Shadowsong |
| 23:47.13 | Kraps | k the name is familiar |
| 23:47.34 | Jamash | you know, giving an immortal a life sentence is kind of stupid |
| 23:49.19 | Kraps | i'm guessing outland didnt get new music |
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| 23:51.26 | Amarande | Gaaaaaahhhhhhh. |
| 23:51.53 | Amarande | bashes head into wall after reading the patch notes (doing considerably less self damage than this would previously do, because that's been nerfed too.) |
| 23:52.06 | Jamash | warrior or warlock? |
| 23:52.20 | Amarande | well, I do have an 80 warlock |
| 23:52.32 | Amarande | but I don't know if I'll level her to 85 now, seeing as Blizzard seems to have resumed their "we hate warlocks" stance from BC |
| 23:52.47 | Amarande | also, they might as well just take Mortal Strike et al. out of the game entirely at this point :S |
| 23:52.52 | Jamash | yeah I know |
| 23:52.53 | Jamash | 10%? |
| 23:53.29 | Amarande | and even with 25%, Widow Venom wasn't keeping most mobs that cast Heal or Greater Heal from healing to full if they get the cast off :| |
| 23:53.36 | Jamash | yep |
| 23:53.46 | Jamash | I wish we could have kept the 50% debuff for pve |
| 23:53.53 | Amarande | good thing there isn't a raid this week. |
| 23:54.19 | Amarande | there is going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth on things like heroic Saurfang and BQL from a lot of folks now. |
| 23:54.34 | Jamash | there always is |
| 23:54.36 | Zasurus | So have I goto fly to the damn boat to get from northrend to anywhere else!? |
| 23:54.44 | Jamash | pay a mage |
| 23:54.45 | Zasurus | The portals are gone! :( |
| 23:55.06 | Amarande | is the caverns of time one still there btw or is that gone too? |
| 23:55.22 | Zasurus | Damn forgot about that! |
| 23:55.46 | Amarande | so, is there anything other than pally and priest healers that wasn't nerfed? |
| 23:57.45 | Kraps | stop with the "blizz hates x class", its fucking stupid |
| 23:58.50 | Jamash | I find it odd that there's a patch note about worgen hunters |
| 23:59.03 | Zasurus | :-) |
| 23:59.08 | Amarande | Kraps: okay, maybe "hates" isn't the right term, but Blizzard has frequently failed to fully consider the ramifications on some classes when balancing stuff |
| 23:59.26 | Amarande | my oft-cited example of 2.3 and locks in PvP, for instance |
| 23:59.52 | Zasurus | Most of the issues is not that they nerf the class it's they change it's use.. ;-) |
