| 00:01.01 | Kraps | http://www.break.com/index/cool-optical-illusions.html |
| 00:02.05 | Dagmar | A-KO: If he were a _real_ man they'd have been clapping pull-ups |
| 00:03.04 | A-KO | lol Dagmar |
| 00:03.19 | A-KO | Comment on youtube: "If I found myself there I'd shit enough bricks to build a good house." |
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| 00:10.47 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: 1? |
| 00:10.54 | TC-Work | i dont know the diff i dont think |
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| 00:16.14 | Sintacks | fml. been using Grid since I leveled my druid... tried out a grid2 comp for the hell of it... and now i'm kind of liking Grid2... |
| 00:16.22 | Sintacks | and i just got my Grid set back up after 4.0.1 |
| 00:17.42 | Amarande | ehh, we all have our disappointments. |
| 00:17.59 | Amarande | today, I discovered I can't just dismiss and summon a replacement pet when one dies, you have to spend ten seconds reviving the other one first |
| 00:18.04 | Jerub | i'm waiting for the bit that triggers the fml |
| 00:18.12 | Dagmar | Amarande: You uncaring bastard. |
| 00:18.39 | Amarande | Dagmar: given that generally speaking, that means the tank died in an instance and I'm trying to get my tenacity pet up so we don't wipe, and the ferocity pet dies first, so I have even more precious seconds ticking away ... |
| 00:19.16 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22eIJDtKho |
| 00:19.20 | Amarande | not that it *usually* goes down that way, but in places like the rift area of nexus it's a pain |
| 00:19.25 | Amarande | though that's really a different issue |
| 00:19.32 | Amarande | one I always, always hate as ranged |
| 00:19.34 | Amarande | I HATE RAMPS |
| 00:19.36 | Mirrormn | Kraps: I remember seeing that on TV when I was a kid O.o |
| 00:19.45 | Mirrormn | Bill Nye the Science Guy iirc |
| 00:20.10 | Amarande | regularly, when I run into ramps, I run into issues where I can see something but it counts as LoS. |
| 00:20.27 | Amarande | especially when the enemies are right at the top of the ramp, and of course I'm on the ramp, because I'm not melee :P |
| 00:29.19 | Amarande | wait a minute. Saurfang the Younger? I killed you! I've killed you about ... ten times or so already! And now you're offering me a quest. :) |
| 00:30.08 | Dagmar | "Sure~! We're all friends here! This is a blue server, right?" |
| 00:30.30 | bluspacecow | blue server? |
| 00:30.32 | Dagmar | http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=81502 |
| 00:30.36 | Dagmar | wrong channel |
| 00:30.57 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Generally means PvE |
| 00:31.03 | bluspacecow | oh |
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| 00:39.51 | Kraps | whoah http://kotaku.com/5686869/black-ops-dev-glitchers-are-douche+bags-who-want-to-be-internet-nerd-famous |
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| 00:48.43 | Kraps | deathy is pretty hideous |
| 00:50.03 | Nobgul | lol |
| 00:52.14 | Sintacks | where would i find the syntax/etc on how to use the add_msg_channel |
| 00:52.17 | Sintacks | addon* |
| 00:52.45 | Mirrormn | ~api SendAddonMessage |
| 00:52.45 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 00:52.52 | Sintacks | ty |
| 00:53.07 | Mirrormn | woo I managed to use it correctly |
| 00:53.13 | Sintacks | lawl. |
| 00:53.16 | Arrowmaster | ~factoid api |
| 00:53.16 | purl | ACTION gives api a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 00:53.31 | Sintacks | now i get to figure out how to make an addon i have work for someone that doesn't have it via macro.... |
| 00:54.39 | Arrowmaster | purl, api =~ s/wowwiki.com/wowpedia.org/ |
| 00:54.39 | purl | Arrowmaster: i didn't have anything called 'api' to modify |
| 00:55.44 | Arrowmaster | purl, api (.*?) =~ s/wowwiki.com/wowpedia.org/ |
| 00:55.44 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'api (.*?)' to modify, Arrowmaster |
| 00:55.55 | Mirrormn | I'm prettys ure it's a hardcoded secondary function |
| 00:56.28 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 00:56.41 | foxlit | It's probably not, but what is it? |
| 00:56.45 | foxlit | It's not a fact: |
| 00:56.47 | Mirrormn | the point is, don't go to wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage, go to wowpedia.org/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 00:56.50 | foxlit | ~factinfo api |
| 00:56.50 | purl | foxlit: there's no such factoid as api |
| 00:56.54 | Kraps | i have a hankering for CoD |
| 00:57.03 | Arrowmaster | actually dont even goto wowpedia.org/API_SendAddonMessage |
| 00:57.09 | Arrowmaster | !api SendAddonMessage |
| 00:57.09 | lua_bot | SendAddonMessage: Sends a chat-like message receivable by other addons (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendAddonMessage) |
| 00:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | behold, my brother: http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/e4bwe/ |
| 00:58.09 | industrial | lol |
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| 00:59.10 | kd3|netbook | ~literal api |
| 01:01.08 | Amarande | yay, raid time |
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| 01:01.23 | Mirrormn | my guild only raids on tuesdays now =/ |
| 01:01.23 | Shirik | ~literal cmd:api (.*?) |
| 01:01.42 | Shirik | ~literal cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:01.42 | purl | "cmd: api (.*?)" is "($1): http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1" |
| 01:01.45 | Shirik | there we are |
| 01:01.49 | Jerub | Mirrormn: that's a horrible day to raid |
| 01:01.53 | Mirrormn | Shirik wins! |
| 01:01.57 | Mirrormn | what, Tuesday? |
| 01:01.58 | Arrowmaster | purl: forget cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:02.04 | Mirrormn | Tuesday is the day of kings |
| 01:02.18 | Arrowmaster | purl: no, forget cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:02.21 | Mirrormn | Tuesday is el dia del botin! |
| 01:02.33 | Shirik | purl: hi |
| 01:02.34 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 01:02.39 | Shirik | I think she hates you Arrowmaster :) |
| 01:02.48 | Arrowmaster | ~api test |
| 01:02.48 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_test |
| 01:03.01 | Mirrormn | purl: ignore Arrowmaster ^_^ |
| 01:03.02 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, Arrowmaster ^_^!" |
| 01:03.14 | Shirik | purl, forget api (.*?) |
| 01:03.14 | purl | i didn't have anything called 'api (.*?)' to forget, Shirik |
| 01:03.18 | Shirik | purl, forget cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:03.40 | Arrowmaster | wont work |
| 01:03.51 | Shirik | purl, no, cmd: api (.*?) is ($1): http://www.wowpedia.org/API_$1 |
| 01:03.51 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 01:03.58 | Mirrormn | ~api test |
| 01:03.58 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_test |
| 01:04.02 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:04.03 | Mirrormn | =/ |
| 01:04.07 | Shirik | YOU SAID OK |
| 01:04.24 | Mirrormn | purl, cmd: api (.*?)? |
| 01:04.24 | purl | i heard cmd: api (.*?) is ($1): http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 01:04.31 | Arrowmaster | ~factoid cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:04.31 | purl | ACTION gives cmd: api (.*?) a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 01:04.38 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:04.38 | purl | cmd: api (.*?) -- created by Mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> at Tue Jul 10 20:39:09 2007 (1219 days); it has been requested 134 times, last by Mirrormn, 14s ago. |
| 01:04.58 | Shirik | purl, no, cmd: api (.*?) is <reply> ($1): http://www.wowpedia.org/API_$1 |
| 01:04.58 | purl | Shirik: okay |
| 01:05.01 | Shirik | ~api test |
| 01:05.01 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_test |
| 01:05.03 | Shirik | oaihwe0fawh3 |
| 01:05.07 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 01:05.09 | durcyn | nice password bro |
| 01:05.14 | Wobin | hahah |
| 01:05.38 | Arrowmaster | purl, cmd: api (.*?) =~ s/wowwiki.com/wowpedia.org/ |
| 01:05.38 | purl | Arrowmaster: OK |
| 01:05.39 | Mirrormn | it just appeared as ************ to me XD |
| 01:05.49 | Arrowmaster | ~api motherfuckingtest |
| 01:05.49 | purl | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_motherfuckingtest |
| 01:05.53 | Shirik | yay |
| 01:05.56 | kd3|netbook | yay |
| 01:06.00 | Mirrormn | cheers Arrowmaster |
| 01:06.01 | Arrowmaster | i still want to delete it though |
| 01:06.10 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo cmd: api (.*?) |
| 01:06.10 | purl | cmd: api (.*?) -- created by Mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> at Tue Jul 10 20:39:09 2007 (1219 days); it has been requested 136 times, last by Arrowmaster, 21s ago. |
| 01:06.10 | Mirrormn | why? |
| 01:06.24 | Arrowmaster | because !api is better in every way |
| 01:06.47 | foxlit | Except for getting you a link to wowpedia :) |
| 01:06.47 | industrial | !api motehrfuckingtest |
| 01:06.48 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'motehrfuckingtest'. |
| 01:07.50 | Arrowmaster | purl, cmd: api (.*?) =~ s/http:\/\/www.wowpedia.org\/API_/!api / |
| 01:08.34 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 01:08.38 | Arrowmaster | purl, cmd: api (.*?) =~ s#http://www.wowpedia.org/API_#!api # |
| 01:08.38 | purl | Arrowmaster: too drastic change of factoid. |
| 01:08.38 | purl | OK, Arrowmaster |
| 01:08.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 01:08.54 | Mirrormn | ~api test |
| 01:08.54 | purl | !api test |
| 01:08.54 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'test': GetMuteStatus, GetLatestCompletedComparisonAchievements, GetLatestUpdatedStats, GetLatestThreeSenders, GetLatestUpdatedComparisonStats, StatusBar:SetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:GetRotatesTexture, CalendarContextInviteStatus, GetLatestCompletedAchievements |
| 01:09.02 | Mirrormn | heh! |
| 01:09.25 | Mirrormn | thusly has your will been served |
| 01:11.17 | Shirik | hrm |
| 01:11.22 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&action=history |
| 01:11.25 | foxlit | ~api GetCurrencyInfo |
| 01:11.25 | purl | !api GetCurrencyInfo |
| 01:11.25 | lua_bot | GetCurrencyInfo: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrencyInfo) |
| 01:11.27 | Shirik | someone found my page while I was away |
| 01:13.43 | Kraps | what. the. fuck. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1533340 |
| 01:15.47 | Mirrormn | but... fallout new vegas *does* have elvis... |
| 01:16.11 | Wobin | http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2010/11/10/image/304873_What%20an%20FPS%20has%20become.jpg |
| 01:16.40 | kd3|netbook | which is upsetting |
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| 01:18.01 | Dagmar | Wobin: Hey is that second one Upper Guk? |
| 01:18.52 | Wobin | Dagmar: I never played EQ |
| 01:19.17 | syrae | Wobin, you're a tmbo'er as well? |
| 01:19.38 | Dagmar | Wobin: Ah well |
| 01:19.47 | Wobin | syrae: nope =) Got that through a third party |
| 01:19.53 | syrae | ahhh |
| 01:20.11 | Dagmar | WobinL They somewhat overlook the fact that the first map is _Zork_, which was not, last I checked, an FPS game. |
| 01:20.19 | syrae | I just never expected to see a tmbo link in here. |
| 01:20.23 | syrae | surprised me |
| 01:20.29 | Dagmar | First one of those was Wolf3D |
| 01:20.33 | Dagmar | ...as far as I can remmeber |
| 01:20.47 | Xyphoid | it's doom 1 IIRC |
| 01:21.34 | Wobin | the map or the first FPS? |
| 01:21.46 | Xyphoid | the first fps |
| 01:21.55 | Xyphoid | remember those square rooms with cross-shaped platforms on the right hand side? |
| 01:23.05 | Kraps | http://www.google.com/search?q=%22slap+in+the+face%22&q=+site:forums.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 01:23.21 | kd3|netbook | only 9k results? |
| 01:23.22 | Wobin | http://www.classicdoom.com/maps/d1maps/e1m1.htm |
| 01:23.44 | Wobin | aha |
| 01:23.45 | Wobin | http://www.classicdoom.com/maps/d1maps/e1m6.htm |
| 01:23.48 | Wobin | there we go |
| 01:23.54 | Wobin | I knew it was doom! |
| 01:24.02 | Wobin | but then I saw the first level and thought I was wrong |
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| 01:30.04 | Mirrormn | http://unurth.com/765484/Lead-Pencil-Studio-Non-Sign-II-Washington O.o |
| 01:30.08 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/78000/ |
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| 01:30.59 | Wobin | Mirrormn: that.. is pretty hardcore |
| 01:31.07 | Amarande | dammit |
| 01:31.10 | Amarande | raid is being postponed |
| 01:31.42 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, that 1993 map is DOOM |
| 01:31.48 | Amarande | E1M6, I believe |
| 01:33.50 | Wobin | Amarande: *points up* |
| 01:34.10 | Wobin | Kraps: that video makes the game look unnecssarily complex |
| 01:34.42 | Kraps | Wobin: meh, i get 20% off |
| 01:34.53 | Wobin | why 20? |
| 01:34.59 | Wobin | oh |
| 01:35.02 | Wobin | previous owner |
| 01:35.24 | Kraps | yeah i have twist |
| 01:35.32 | Kraps | its pretty good |
| 01:35.39 | Amarande | Xyphoid: sometimes memory can scare us |
| 01:35.43 | Amarande | like the fact that of everything |
| 01:35.51 | Amarande | we remember THOSE SQUARE ROOMS WITH CROSS SHAPED PLATFORMS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE |
| 01:35.52 | Amarande | :| |
| 01:36.26 | Jerub | i can play prince of persia the first 4-5 levels from memory |
| 01:37.10 | Wobin | PoP was so unforgiving >< |
| 01:37.32 | Jerub | Wobin: i shat bricks the first time that skeleton stood up |
| 01:42.40 | Dagmar | THis will get you then... http://www.eqmacwiki.com/eqatlas/uppergukmap.html <-- not exactly a complete dupe of the Doom map, but still... |
| 01:43.29 | Dagmar | That should explain how I thought it might have been that |
| 01:47.24 | Kraps | you cant get mass effect 2 dlc from steam? |
| 01:48.56 | NeoTron | Kraps: no |
| 01:49.03 | NeoTron | bioware credits go |
| 01:49.20 | Jamash | screw bioware |
| 01:51.09 | SqueeG | better than lionhead |
| 01:51.23 | Jamash | screw lionhead with a rusty pitchfork |
| 01:51.30 | Thunder_Child | hmm...what happens when you get to the avaliable part of a patch, and play, then find out you need another patch? |
| 01:51.32 | SqueeG | agreed |
| 01:53.03 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: The world ends. |
| 01:53.25 | Dagmar | It gets the low-def textures and models first. |
| 01:54.04 | Dagmar | If the "can't actually play" condition your described happens, the game probably explodes and little flaming shards of monitor wind up deeply embedded in your eyes. |
| 01:55.45 | bluspacecow | whats the range on /target |
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| 01:56.50 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/11/10/tomb-tomb-pow/ |
| 01:57.02 | foxlit | It's somehow amusing. |
| 01:57.28 | Xyphoid | i was stupid and bought the 4e tomb of horrors |
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| 01:59.36 | Dagmar | heheh I liked that module |
| 01:59.59 | Dagmar | Screw the "updated" versions tho |
| 02:00.14 | Dagmar | They might as well just hand you a cuddly teddy bear\ |
| 02:00.20 | taroven | I'd throw out a "that's what she said", but yeah. =P |
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| 02:03.19 | Dagmar | k4k: Mainly everyone who reads |
| 02:06.08 | Jamash | who's k4k |
| 02:06.40 | Dagmar | An iilliterate noob |
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| 02:28.59 | Computerpunk | how weird it is that the last time I updated an AddOn for WarHammer was on my birthday. |
| 02:29.00 | Computerpunk | >_> |
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| 02:40.21 | alestane | http://blog.games.yahoo.com/photos/178-biggest-game-flops-of-2010 |
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| 02:47.09 | Jamash | people play warhammer? |
| 02:47.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:53.31 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:55.34 | Thunder_Child | Computerpunk: not very weird if your bithday was yesterday |
| 02:55.46 | Computerpunk | o_O |
| 02:55.53 | Computerpunk | It was like 3 months ago. |
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| 03:15.11 | Kraps | Alistair from DA:O is full of win |
| 03:17.17 | Thunder_Child | except DA:O is not full of win |
| 03:18.08 | Kraps | why? |
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| 03:22.12 | Amarande | T_C: why? |
| 03:22.18 | Amarande | apart from that the DLC infrastructure is crap |
| 03:22.36 | durcyn | DAO DLC is a damn sight better than ME2 |
| 03:23.16 | Amarande | it's not the DLC that's bad, durcyn |
| 03:23.23 | Amarande | it's the authorization and download coding |
| 03:23.40 | Amarande | if you ever have to reinstall DAO, good luck getting the DLC to install right the first time without having to go through a whole bunch of arcane crap to get it to work |
| 03:23.50 | Amarande | when I did, some stuff failed to download |
| 03:23.55 | Amarande | then I had raid, so I had to exit DAO |
| 03:24.03 | Amarande | came back and the stuff that failed was listed as "available to buy" instead |
| 03:24.20 | Amarande | so I double checked my Bioware account, said it was authorized ... tried the manual DL and it said unauthorized ... had to go through a bunch of arcane crap what a mess |
| 03:25.08 | durcyn | yes, but the downloader is in-game. ME2 still checks your EA account for authorization, but you have to download 25 executables manually |
| 03:28.17 | Amarande | durcyn: yeah, but the in-game downloader can obsessively think you don't own stuff you do |
| 03:28.28 | Amarande | and the only way to fix it is usually to delete a bunch of files and wait for 2GB to download again |
| 03:32.55 | Amarande | that's basically what happened to me |
| 03:33.24 | durcyn | indeed, you seem to have been traumatized by it |
| 03:37.18 | Amarande | and we've become a 10/12 heroic guild tonight. :D |
| 03:37.34 | Amarande | with still a chance at 11/12. Not 12/12, since we decided to do PP on normal this week |
| 03:37.47 | Amarande | durcyn: you have to remember ... I work in customer service |
| 03:37.57 | Computerpunk | Amarande, lal. XD |
| 03:37.57 | Amarande | which tends to make me wish a higher standard of service from other companies as well |
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| 03:42.41 | Amarande | also: the secret to blood princes as a frost DK is that you should be in unholy presence and your primary task is KINETICS. |
| 03:42.51 | Amarande | to try to mdps seems to be to get yourself, and the raid, killed |
| 03:43.08 | Amarande | 1) DKs probably have by far the most mobility on H Princes |
| 03:43.18 | Amarande | because between Unholy and AMS, you can move a LOT more than most others |
| 03:43.22 | Amarande | 2) we got decent range in 4.0 |
| 03:44.19 | Amarande | the thing is, the shadow prison's based on how much time you're moving, not how far |
| 03:44.24 | Amarande | so unholy is *awesome* there |
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| 03:54.58 | Shirik | So I pretty much spent today writing a paper that I was supposed to be working on the entire semester |
| 03:55.07 | Shirik | totals to 4500 words; could be a lot better, but meh |
| 03:55.16 | Shirik | So I look at what other people have submitted |
| 03:55.22 | Shirik | Someone definitely submitted a 1200 word paper |
| 03:59.17 | Computerpunk | Shirik, paper on? |
| 03:59.22 | Amarande | also just broke 21,000 DPS in a battle for the very first time ever |
| 03:59.31 | Amarande | yes, 21,000 DPS from *one person* |
| 04:01.58 | Amarande | (Whelps, pre Sindy, on frost DK) |
| 04:02.20 | Amarande | I've pretty much given up on trying to let the tank hold aggro on those and accepted that I'm going to have to tank them myself with my level of AoE |
| 04:04.08 | Computerpunk | Anyone got any tutorial on how to do Dropdowns? |
| 04:04.29 | Computerpunk | 'tis for a noble cause |
| 04:04.38 | Amarande | The important thing is that the tactics WORK, not that they're what's expected. |
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| 04:04.52 | Computerpunk | :3 |
| 04:04.53 | Jerub | Amarande: hehehe, trash fight. |
| 04:04.55 | Computerpunk | Amarande, gratz. |
| 04:05.00 | Computerpunk | Now. |
| 04:05.01 | Computerpunk | Dropdowns? |
| 04:05.02 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 04:05.11 | Amarande | Jerub, my optimal role on H Princes is unexpected as well |
| 04:05.13 | Jerub | Amarande: loser. |
| 04:05.17 | Amarande | you'd think I should be running from target to target and MDPSing |
| 04:05.29 | Amarande | however, it seems that a frost DK is in a better place than virtually anyone to react to kinetics |
| 04:05.39 | Jerub | Amarande: no huntard for pet? |
| 04:06.03 | Amarande | The main points are: Shadow Prison's based on how much *time* you spend moving, not how far you move, so Unholy Presence is at its very best |
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| 04:06.09 | Amarande | and also, you don't get stacks while AMS'd |
| 04:06.15 | Computerpunk | nobody lieks me |
| 04:06.16 | Computerpunk | :, |
| 04:06.20 | Computerpunk | Humbedooh, save me. |
| 04:06.24 | Computerpunk | Dropdowns? Any idea on them? |
| 04:06.29 | awweaver | OMG...ants ina printer |
| 04:06.30 | awweaver | http://www.maniacworld.com/ants-vs-printer.html |
| 04:06.32 | Humbedooh | idea? |
| 04:06.36 | Computerpunk | Anything that I should know, a lib, smth. |
| 04:06.49 | Humbedooh | uhm, ace3gui? |
| 04:06.50 | Computerpunk | Can't find any tutorial on them. |
| 04:06.52 | Computerpunk | Dropdowns? |
| 04:07.06 | Computerpunk | I need to emulate carbonite's dropdown. |
| 04:07.07 | Computerpunk | ._. |
| 04:07.14 | Computerpunk | and its code is soooo obfuscated |
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| 04:07.18 | Humbedooh | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-gui-3-0-widgets/#w-dropdown |
| 04:07.24 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 04:07.24 | Computerpunk | ty |
| 04:07.31 | Humbedooh | or did you mean liek a context menu? |
| 04:08.38 | Hirsute | http://damnyouautocorrect.com/561/alcoholic-much/ |
| 04:08.38 | Hirsute | I think the autocorrect version was better. |
| 04:08.55 | Computerpunk | Well, secc, getting you printscreen |
| 04:09.03 | nebula169 | Xinhuan had a nice write up about them somewhere, UIDropDownMenu |
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| 04:09.13 | Xinhuan | yes i do |
| 04:09.45 | Xinhuan | and learning from carbonite generally isn't a good idea |
| 04:09.49 | nebula169 | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15763 ! |
| 04:10.10 | Xinhuan | unless you have a super strong foundation in lua and coding in general already ;p |
| 04:10.38 | Amarande | is carbonite still all obfuscated like when they wanted you to pay for it? |
| 04:10.54 | Computerpunk | Humbedooh, http://i51.tinypic.com/ejxysg.jpg. |
| 04:10.59 | Computerpunk | Amarande, don't think so. |
| 04:11.07 | Humbedooh | that's a context menu |
| 04:11.17 | Humbedooh | you can use EasyMenu for that |
| 04:11.29 | Computerpunk | inb4 confusion |
| 04:11.36 | Hirsute | And this one. http://damnyouautocorrect.com/546/yes-but-tell-us-how-you-really-feel/ Rage much? |
| 04:12.06 | Computerpunk | ty nebula169 and Humbedooh. |
| 04:12.14 | Humbedooh | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_EasyMenu |
| 04:12.23 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG || Thank a Veteran today |
| 04:12.29 | Arrowmaster | im having fun with amazon recommendations and marking stuff i have |
| 04:12.34 | Computerpunk | says thanks to Cairenn. |
| 04:12.39 | Computerpunk | amidoinitrite? |
| 04:12.44 | Arrowmaster | Buffy the Vampire Slayer - The Complete Series (Seasons 1-7) |
| 04:12.46 | Arrowmaster | Recommended because you said you owned Stargate SG-1: The Complete Series Collection and more |
| 04:13.02 | Arrowmaster | i want to mark it as own but i dont actually own it..... |
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| 04:13.45 | Computerpunk | Xinhuan, I'm not learning from Carbonite. I'm jsut making its button a LDB module. |
| 04:14.48 | Computerpunk | I'm not completely new to AddOns. |
| 04:14.49 | Cairenn | Amarande: no |
| 04:14.55 | Computerpunk | I just don't know WoW quirks. |
| 04:15.29 | Kraps | at this rate it'll take me forever to finish DA:O |
| 04:15.31 | Amarande | Cairenn: yays. :) |
| 04:15.46 | Humbedooh | Amarande: blizzard doesn't allow that nowadays |
| 04:16.47 | Computerpunk | Humbedooh, my guess that it's too obfuscated for them to see what AddOns are "exploiting". |
| 04:17.01 | Humbedooh | yup |
| 04:17.15 | Humbedooh | (which actually makes Peggle a bannable addon ;s) |
| 04:17.36 | Cairenn | Humbedooh: no it doesn't, they have Blizz's approval |
| 04:18.03 | Cairenn | they were given an exception |
| 04:18.09 | Humbedooh | hm well if they got spesiul powers then it's okay |
| 04:18.37 | nebula169 | peggle just removed all of the white space or something, no? |
| 04:18.57 | Humbedooh | no they changed all their variables to single letter chars as well |
| 04:19.06 | Humbedooh | so it's like c:f(a,e,20) |
| 04:19.09 | nebula169 | ah |
| 04:19.52 | Computerpunk | function Nx.Soc.Lis:SeL1() |
| 04:19.53 | Computerpunk | local win=Nx.Soc.Win1 |
| 04:19.53 | Computerpunk | local wf=win.Frm |
| 04:19.53 | Computerpunk | local ff=self.FriendsFrame |
| 04:20.02 | Computerpunk | that's just the local initialization part |
| 04:20.04 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 04:20.34 | Computerpunk | also, I see that Carbonite uses getglobal() instead of _G |
| 04:20.40 | Humbedooh | BOOO |
| 04:21.04 | Computerpunk | that really is a turndown. |
| 04:21.05 | Computerpunk | :/ |
| 04:21.30 | Cairenn | hey tekkub, you see this yet? http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/e1d0/?cpg=144H |
| 04:22.01 | cog|away | RAWR |
| 04:22.10 | Cairenn | hi cogwheel |
| 04:22.32 | cogwheel | hi and lol |
| 04:22.34 | cogwheel | :) |
| 04:23.23 | Arrowmaster | omg, this is now on my wishlist http://www.amazon.com/Team-Complete-Limited-Box-Set/dp/B003DPC4HQ |
| 04:23.55 | Cairenn | rofl, cool! |
| 04:24.14 | Humbedooh | bacon ftw |
| 04:24.22 | Arrowmaster | it has a van |
| 04:24.36 | Cairenn | I know! Makes it just that much better! |
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| 04:25.23 | Computerpunk | as long as it has T in Team, I'm up for it. |
| 04:26.28 | Cairenn | I pity the fool that doesn't put that on their wishlist! |
| 04:27.26 | Humbedooh | a-team + bacon = you win the internets! |
| 04:28.46 | Amarande | Computerpunk: I thought exploiting was based on behavior rather than coding, anyway |
| 04:28.57 | Amarande | I'm sure if you coded a hello world addon super obfuscated blizzard wouldn't care :) |
| 04:29.16 | durcyn | any obfuscation is a violation of the TOS, unless you're popcap, apparently |
| 04:29.18 | Cairenn | Amarande: wrong |
| 04:29.26 | Computerpunk | Still, if the addon gives you too much of an advantage, they gotta find out what you're using to get that advantage. |
| 04:29.39 | Cairenn | durcyn: also wrong, then aren't the only ones that have been given an exemption |
| 04:30.00 | Cairenn | s/then/they/ |
| 04:30.21 | Humbedooh | what it boils down to is this: Blizzard doesn't care if you obfuscate it, as long as THEY can have the non-obfuscated version |
| 04:30.35 | Cairenn | and again I say, wrong |
| 04:30.37 | durcyn | oh, who else did they approve? shows how much attention i pay |
| 04:30.41 | Humbedooh | and you have a reason and such |
| 04:30.55 | Dagmar | Popcap, much like certain other things, isn't widely considered to be a "performance-enhancing" anything. |
| 04:31.26 | Amarande | aw, no International Obfuscated Addon Code Contest then. :( |
| 04:32.36 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21289 |
| 04:32.41 | Torhal | durcyn: It isn't even against the TOS or EULA. It's the AddOn Policy. |
| 04:33.30 | Amarande | Yeah, I'm guessing breaking the AddOn Policy gets you added to baddons |
| 04:33.47 | Amarande | I really wish they'd add GearScore to baddons though |
| 04:33.56 | Amarande | simply for its effect on the community, rather than tech reasons |
| 04:33.57 | Arrowmaster | they did |
| 04:34.07 | Amarande | wow, GS got banned? |
| 04:34.12 | Amarande | YAY BLIZZ |
| 04:34.12 | Arrowmaster | but it was only certain versions |
| 04:34.18 | kd3 | a few times because of its bringing down the servers with spam |
| 04:34.32 | Computerpunk | then, they added the throttle |
| 04:34.33 | Computerpunk | to inspection |
| 04:36.56 | Humbedooh | Amarande: GS had its fun moments though - when you'd sit in a raid and monitor spamalyzer and kick all the dweebs with GS out of the raid :> |
| 04:37.52 | Computerpunk | ^LOL COOL IDEA. |
| 04:37.53 | Computerpunk | BRB. |
| 04:38.30 | Thunder_Child | http://www.tanga.com/products/apple-fanboy-or-android-fanboy-t-shirts |
| 04:39.16 | Computerpunk | Where's Linux raping them? |
| 04:39.27 | Arrowmaster | android is linux |
| 04:39.46 | Computerpunk | o.O |
| 04:39.52 | Dagmar | ...and RMS can suck one. |
| 04:40.03 | Computerpunk | isn't it Google? |
| 04:40.07 | Dagmar | No glory-hogging "GNU/" bullshit this time |
| 04:41.55 | Amarande | GAH. Apparently Sindy hits tanks with frost beacon now. |
| 04:41.57 | Amarande | She didn't before patch. |
| 04:42.02 | Thunder_Child | android is on a nix core |
| 04:42.05 | Amarande | This is making heroic *painful*. |
| 04:42.10 | Thunder_Child | just like every other open source thing out there |
| 04:42.41 | Amarande | and fwiw, I don't care for obfuscated coding at all |
| 04:42.47 | Amarande | if anything, I tend to overcomment code |
| 04:42.59 | Amarande | I've been known to spend ages working on the design specs and documentation for code that I never do |
| 04:43.59 | dafrito | Amarande: lol, same ;) |
| 04:45.28 | Computerpunk | I wtb coding partner. |
| 04:45.31 | Computerpunk | I hate doign stuff alone. |
| 04:46.00 | Humbedooh | gently pats Computerpunk |
| 04:46.13 | Computerpunk | Nah, it's about self motivation here. |
| 04:46.58 | Computerpunk | I take things lightly when I'm alone. |
| 04:47.08 | Computerpunk | and I work whenever I stop playing. |
| 04:47.09 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 04:47.20 | Amarande | I'm still tempted to code that IRCX-extensions compatible ircd in Ada that I considered once |
| 04:47.31 | Amarande | yeah, IRCX extensions were invented by evil MS but some of those ideas are good |
| 04:49.28 | Arrowmaster | no client supports them though |
| 04:57.41 | SqueeG | evil MS? :p |
| 04:58.13 | SqueeG | I giggle at mac fanboys, considering they run off linux now too |
| 04:58.51 | SqueeG | >.> Delayed responses |
| 04:59.08 | Computerpunk | Or ignored SqueeG. ;D |
| 04:59.14 | Computerpunk | one of those tbh. |
| 04:59.16 | SqueeG | no no |
| 04:59.19 | SqueeG | mine |
| 04:59.24 | Jerub | SqueeG: i don't know why you'd say that. |
| 04:59.46 | SqueeG | Yea i was reading through the conversation from a while back apparently :P |
| 04:59.49 | Jerub | i've had the displeasure of developing for all the current major platforms lately, mac and linux are very far apart. |
| 04:59.51 | SqueeG | woops on scrolling |
| 05:00.49 | SqueeG | Mac took the core and ran with it? |
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| 05:02.23 | SqueeG | heh... "ours now!" *yoink* |
| 05:02.29 | durcyn | oi, a BSD kernel does not a linux userspace make |
| 05:02.52 | SqueeG | whoa whoa whoa |
| 05:03.01 | Jerub | 14:34 < Amarande> wow, GS got banned? |
| 05:03.06 | SqueeG | I was under the impression i was a nix kernel |
| 05:03.08 | Jerub | Amarande: SORSE! |
| 05:03.18 | durcyn | BSD being the berkeley unix, yes |
| 05:03.38 | Jerub | SqueeG: if you don't know what you're talking about, it's best if you dont make assertions that other people who know what they're talking about disagree with. |
| 05:03.48 | durcyn | and darwin is all kinds of posix, but the GUI is worlds away |
| 05:04.19 | Computerpunk | Jerub, don't oyu mean assumptions? |
| 05:04.19 | Computerpunk | XD |
| 05:04.49 | Amarande | as for Ada, I think that's probably the ideal language for internet daemons |
| 05:05.02 | Amarande | mainly because a lot of security bugs that get into C simply will not even *compile* in Ada |
| 05:05.08 | Amarande | because Ada was designed for military hardened code |
| 05:05.15 | durcyn | you trollin' |
| 05:05.38 | Amarande | it also works a lot better in real time, which for a constantly messaged daemon like IRC seems the ideal language. |
| 05:05.45 | SqueeG | BSD! |
| 05:05.47 | Dagmar | No, he'd just have felt at home running BSD, if he were about ten years older. ;) |
| 05:05.50 | SqueeG | that's awesome... |
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| 05:12.14 | adys_ | and it's up <3 |
| 05:12.38 | Computerpunk | adys_, why'd I read it as a really perverted sentence? |
| 05:12.39 | Computerpunk | <-< |
| 05:13.00 | Computerpunk | why have I just read it* |
| 05:13.07 | SqueeG | due to the fact that you are, indeed, a pervert |
| 05:13.10 | SqueeG | *nod nod* |
| 05:13.22 | Computerpunk | *cough* |
| 05:13.24 | Computerpunk | off to school |
| 05:13.24 | Computerpunk | XD |
| 05:13.28 | SqueeG | =p |
| 05:13.41 | Computerpunk | &AM |
| 05:13.42 | adys_ | even i cant understand how that can be perverted |
| 05:13.43 | Computerpunk | 7AM* |
| 05:13.45 | Computerpunk | been awake for 6 hours |
| 05:14.06 | Amarande | durcyn: don't like Ada much? |
| 05:14.09 | adys_ | ive been awake for 2 minutes. |
| 05:14.24 | Amarande | I've always thought it one of the most underrated languages in computing |
| 05:14.57 | adys_ | ada is for the python rejects. |
| 05:22.03 | SqueeG | adys_ you said 'it's up' |
| 05:22.05 | SqueeG | think about it |
| 05:22.29 | SqueeG | night! |
| 05:23.27 | Katawa | penis |
| 05:23.42 | Torhal | Katawa: Ackis? |
| 05:23.46 | Torhal | Is that you? |
| 05:23.52 | Katawa | Hmm? |
| 05:24.00 | Katawa | '[21:22] <SqueeG> think about it' |
| 05:24.05 | adys_ | Yeah |
| 05:24.05 | Katawa | He's talking about dick. |
| 05:24.06 | durcyn | obviously some other canadian |
| 05:24.14 | durcyn | all rook same. |
| 05:24.28 | adys_ | because that's exactly the sort of thing you say before sex |
| 05:24.34 | adys_ | "It's up! Let's put a condom on it!" |
| 05:24.48 | Katawa | Yes sir, fi you're George Castanza |
| 05:25.15 | adys_ | george castanza doesn't like condoms. |
| 05:25.23 | adys_ | he can never get the package open in time. |
| 05:25.27 | Katawa | Indeed. |
| 05:25.33 | Hirsute | Heh. "Would Lily like a hooded lightish disgusting peabcoat?" "... Is this message encoded?" This is one of my new favorite sites. |
| 05:25.42 | adys_ | and |
| 05:25.46 | adys_ | i believe it's Costanza |
| 05:26.05 | Katawa | The important part is just the reference |
| 05:26.12 | durcyn | Now talking in #pedants |
| 05:26.24 | Hirsute | Computerpunk: Sorry, I've only ever done dropdowns using a library. No idea how they normally work. |
| 05:30.22 | Amarande | durcyn: speaking of pedantic |
| 05:30.31 | Amarande | would it be proper to say that you can never solo anything on a hunter? |
| 05:30.45 | durcyn | Amarande: it's fractal pedantry, you see |
| 05:30.45 | Amarande | (especially now, with the increased powers of pets?) |
| 05:32.59 | Dagmar | The more appropriate question as a hunter is "Can you solo only one thing at once?" |
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| 05:34.27 | Hirsute | Ooooh, this one is particularly appropriate for here: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/417/cogs-cogs/ |
| 05:36.14 | durcyn | yes, we are all avid smokers. |
| 05:36.52 | adys_ | Cogs. Cogs. Cogs-cogs. |
| 05:39.14 | Amarande | Dagmar: I've practically 2-manned half-rooms in dungeons multiple times on the hunter. |
| 05:39.26 | Amarande | Tank went down, and I went into action to try to prevent a full wipe ... and generally, I succeed. |
| 05:39.47 | Amarande | what's fun is that my biggest saves were before I even had a Tenacity pet at all |
| 05:39.53 | Dagmar | I'm still kinda proud of the hunters after that volley nerf |
| 05:39.54 | Amarande | I didn't have one of those till the late 60s when I tamed Cassiel |
| 05:40.17 | Amarande | you mean "volley removal" |
| 05:40.21 | Dagmar | I don't think it was out of the question that everyone said "OH MY GOD NO!!!" when they announced they were nerfing it by fully 30% |
| 05:40.36 | Dagmar | 30% is a pretty serious nerf. |
| 05:40.49 | Dagmar | Two days later, we're all "Nah, it's fine... No worries. :)" |
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| 05:41.30 | Dagmar | I half expected to see people complain they could no longer solo 15 mobs their own level at once, but were forced to limp along only killing 8 mobs their own level at once |
| 05:42.39 | Dagmar | Now I'm like "I need a boss mob to really get up a good head of steam" |
| 05:43.17 | adys_ | rofl Hirsute, after reading this site, I'm so glad to have an android phone |
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| 05:43.48 | adys_ | i used to think the autocorrect was bad but only because I often text in french and it garbles my messages into english |
| 05:43.53 | Katawa | Hirsute? That's some name |
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| 05:45.10 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:45.16 | Xinhuan | blizzard error messages are fun |
| 05:45.17 | Xinhuan | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/874706/ |
| 05:48.50 | adys_ | http://damnyouautocorrect.com/img/you-look-affordable.jpg |
| 05:59.39 | adys_ | http://damnyouautocorrect.com/214/wanna-see-a-kickass-threesome/ |
| 06:00.06 | adys_ | Now Im crying |
| 06:03.12 | Dajova | hmm... dont make me see that this early in the morning :( http://damnyouautocorrect.com/582/its-that-time-of-the-month/ |
| 06:04.02 | Kraps | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/4d01e035-b9c1-49af-bfc5-4dc0c2f82ed9.jpg |
| 06:04.51 | Katawa | http://i.imgur.com/EA4fk.png |
| 06:12.40 | Amarande | Dajova: meh, I'm pretty hard to offput most of the time |
| 06:13.24 | Dajova | huh? o_O |
| 06:14.56 | Amarande | you were mentioning how seeing things too early in the morning bothered you lol |
| 06:20.46 | Dajova | i meant the links :P |
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| 06:23.55 | Mirrormn | Katawa: I love the regular zombies vs starcraft zombies |
| 06:24.15 | Amarande | dammit. levixus not soloable by hunter till 72+? |
| 06:24.31 | Amarande | 59k HP elite, has MC *and* melees |
| 06:24.48 | Amarande | seems impossible, because you need to not have your pet to not get MC (he resets once pet is dead ...) but you need your pet because he's a melee mob |
| 06:28.10 | Amarande | ah, there he goes |
| 06:28.18 | Amarande | had to use a battle elixir (thank light I'm an alch) and trinket |
| 06:29.42 | Katawa | Reminds me of the doctor on alcaz island |
| 06:32.00 | Amarande | you soloed him? :) |
| 06:32.16 | Amarande | MC is uniquely an issue with pet classes though |
| 06:32.23 | Amarande | since mobs that have it will not normally cast it if you are solo |
| 06:33.13 | Amarande | RANGED mobs with MC are normally fine, as long as you can take the damage ... melee mobs are a pita because of "Target too close, bitch" |
| 06:38.21 | Katawa | I soloed the doc as a mage |
| 06:38.28 | Katawa | Mirror image is overpowered |
| 06:38.56 | Katawa | He still mc's you though, just you have to blick it and click off the block fast enough that he deosn't reset |
| 06:39.01 | Katawa | I just macroed a cancelaura |
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| 06:41.43 | MoonWitch|Mobile | 101.8 today .. lowest since my very early teens. |
| 06:44.48 | Amarande | oh dear. anyone know about this alchemy bug? |
| 06:44.53 | Amarande | Morning MoonWitch :) |
| 06:45.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | morninh |
| 06:45.06 | MoonWitch|Mobile | what bug? |
| 06:45.07 | Amarande | I'm told that if you didn't learn your LK epic gem transmutes before 4.0, now you have to ask a GM to help you learn them |
| 06:45.19 | MoonWitch|Mobile | offs |
| 06:45.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so I need to get to 70 on my druid now lol |
| 06:45.41 | Nob-afk | i can't get them |
| 06:46.00 | Nob-afk | I asked a gm and they told me they are aware of the problem and working on a fix =( its been a month |
| 06:46.00 | MoonWitch|Mobile | oh |
| 06:46.15 | Nob-afk | I got the quest from the trainer but no trnasmute recipes |
| 06:46.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | that reminded me -- anyone else notice that you just keep on falling through the telredor elevator platform? |
| 06:46.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | elevator gets to the top - boom and I am through the platform falling to my death |
| 06:47.06 | Nob-afk | Not sure which one that is. |
| 06:47.11 | Amarande | telredor. is that some alliance place? |
| 06:47.12 | MoonWitch|Mobile | zangarmarsh |
| 06:47.16 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yeah |
| 06:47.21 | Nob-afk | yer i play horde =P |
| 06:47.25 | Amarande | ah that would explain why I haven't seen it |
| 06:47.26 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ah that explains it |
| 06:47.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | :P |
| 06:47.29 | Amarande | I play horde, my highest alliance toon is 41 |
| 06:47.32 | Nob-afk | i only go to alli area's to kill |
| 06:47.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | fair enough |
| 06:47.53 | Nob-afk | Although i did find a but today |
| 06:47.58 | Nob-afk | bug* on life. |
| 06:48.01 | Nob-afk | live* |
| 06:48.02 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ya know, on a raid to UC (I was 41 pally) I realized I wanted to be a healer :) |
| 06:48.12 | Nob-afk | You can use agfil scroll 8 even with a flask. |
| 06:48.14 | Amarande | I'm wanting to roll a holydin. |
| 06:48.23 | Amarande | BTW, is there any reason to use all your class's favored armor type before 50? |
| 06:48.33 | Amarande | I'm tempted to use my Robes of Insight from 42 for a while on said holydin once I roll her |
| 06:48.36 | Nob-afk | Umm |
| 06:48.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | on a warrior yea |
| 06:48.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | on pally i don't know |
| 06:48.46 | Nob-afk | Prot yer |
| 06:48.48 | Nob-afk | holy naw |
| 06:48.53 | Katawa | Well... given that you don't get attack power from anything but str? yeah |
| 06:48.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I've not played a pally since my US days |
| 06:49.04 | Amarande | seeing as I can't seem to sell these robes |
| 06:49.07 | Amarande | I might as well use them eventually |
| 06:49.20 | Amarande | they also look really good on female characters, especially blood elves |
| 06:49.21 | Katawa | Pally healer cna wear whaatever untill plate spec. thoug |
| 06:49.41 | Nob-afk | even then you will be lucky to have all plate |
| 06:49.42 | Amarande | Katawa: also, you really don't see good healer plate chestpieces till Outland I'm guessing? |
| 06:49.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | technically as holydin shit shouldn't hit you in instances so sure |
| 06:49.49 | Nob-afk | Yer not much imho |
| 06:49.55 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Amarande: that is correct |
| 06:50.14 | Katawa | hehe basically. Even outland gear sucks ass though |
| 06:50.18 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yep |
| 06:50.26 | Katawa | It's probably not as bad now that int gives you spell. |
| 06:50.38 | Nob-afk | Well i am using the chest out the hellfire instance for healing on my dk |
| 06:50.44 | Nob-afk | threw 3 24 stam gems in it. |
| 06:50.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I actually wore holy priest stuff in Kara until I got all healer plate from there lol |
| 06:50.51 | Amarande | ungh, I'm gonna have to start writing down my pet specs |
| 06:50.53 | Nob-afk | better then anything i will get till 80 prob |
| 06:51.00 | Amarande | apparently, pet specs reset every time you swap spec to/from BM |
| 06:51.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ..... |
| 06:51.09 | MoonWitch|Mobile | painful |
| 06:51.15 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and I am going upstairs again |
| 06:51.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | :) |
| 06:51.19 | Nob-afk | Amarande: ? i was on my hunter tonight didn;t notice that |
| 06:51.30 | Amarande | it's because you get extra talent points on pets as 31+/x/x BM |
| 06:51.38 | Nob-afk | Hrmm |
| 06:51.52 | Nob-afk | i was not impressed with bm imho. I speced it tonight for the first time |
| 06:51.58 | Nob-afk | Was down 7k dps |
| 06:52.40 | Nob-afk | The bloodlust we gained in icc tonight was not worth the 5 minute fight with me being 7k dps less |
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| 06:56.59 | Amarande | depends, how much did the bloodlust boost the raid as a whole? |
| 06:57.13 | Amarande | sometimes the worth of a toon isn't to be seen in their personal recount |
| 06:57.25 | Katawa | IF it was only a 5 minute fight and you have 40 secs of BL that's pretty significant |
| 06:57.30 | Amarande | sometimes, it's in tactical value, like when I saved the day TWICE on my hunter, without even a tenacity pet |
| 06:57.49 | Amarande | both pretty much the same way. massive overpulls that felled the tank, and I was almost only beginning to fight |
| 06:57.56 | Amarande | and there was not a wipe, either time :) |
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| 07:15.30 | Fisker | i didn't want to kill you Amarande |
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| 07:36.33 | batrick | can someone give me a quick perl script to print 1 to 32 to stdout |
| 07:36.56 | MoonWitch | sorry, dont know perl |
| 07:37.27 | Jamash | perl -we 'print(join(" ", 1..32),$/)' |
| 07:38.39 | Dagmar | wow |
| 07:38.40 | Jamash | replace " " with $/ to get one number per line |
| 07:39.11 | Jerub | seq 1 32 |
| 07:39.21 | greppy | == Jerub |
| 07:39.22 | Jerub | is a shell command that does the smae thing |
| 07:39.31 | zenzio | "$/" is "\n" in perl? |
| 07:39.36 | greppy | no |
| 07:39.46 | greppy | "\n" is newline. |
| 07:39.49 | Dagmar | Zenzio: More importantly, it's the 100% correct way to do it |
| 07:40.22 | Jamash | zenzio: yes, it is |
| 07:40.34 | Dagmar | Perl knows what platform it's on and will always emit the correct equivalent of \n or \r\n or whatever from $/ |
| 07:40.39 | Jamash | ^ |
| 07:40.48 | MoonWitch | gah, the only drive I can't mount is the one I need to mount :( |
| 07:41.18 | zenzio | okay, so $/ is basically std::endl |
| 07:41.25 | Jamash | more or less |
| 07:41.46 | Jamash | although, perl being perl, you can assign other values to $/ to get certain effects |
| 07:43.12 | greppy | $/ is record separator |
| 07:43.23 | greppy | it defaults to newline |
| 07:43.42 | Jamash | it's also one character shorter than " " |
| 07:43.44 | batrick | Jamash: ty |
| 07:43.52 | Jamash | wait |
| 07:43.59 | Jamash | I mean two characters shorter than "\n" |
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| 07:45.32 | Dagmar | The interpreter is several Mb of overhead. I hardly think two characters matter |
| 07:45.47 | Jamash | but it's easier to type |
| 07:46.21 | Jerub | anyway. |
| 07:46.24 | Jerub | 'seq 1 32' |
| 07:46.27 | Jerub | is the correct answer anyway |
| 07:46.58 | mitch0 | yeah, but for some mysterious reason seq(1) is missing from freebsd base... |
| 07:47.02 | greppy | and easier to confuse someone with. people trying to be "clever" with perl are one reason others have issues cleaning up the code later. |
| 07:47.16 | Dagmar | mitch0: Then a short bit of shell script would be more than appropriate |
| 07:47.31 | Jerub | there's also cat -n |
| 07:47.39 | Jamash | actually 1+ι32 is the correct answer |
| 07:47.40 | mitch0 | yeah, but seq is nice, and I miss it |
| 07:49.13 | Jerub | oh well. |
| 07:49.13 | Jerub | awk 'BEGIN {while(++x<=32) print x}' |
| 07:49.15 | Jerub | :P |
| 07:49.30 | Jerub | learned more awk today. :P |
| 07:49.44 | zenzio | remember, you can't spell awkward without awk |
| 07:49.55 | Jamash | nice |
| 07:49.56 | mitch0 | ohoho |
| 07:49.59 | mitch0 | jot(1) |
| 07:50.09 | mitch0 | thanks for this discussion ;) |
| 07:50.12 | Dagmar | hhehehe |
| 07:50.34 | greppy | for (( i=1;i<33;i++ )); do echo $i; done |
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| 07:55.40 | Jamash | "The name jot derives in part from iota, a function in APL." |
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| 08:02.52 | greppy | ha! even shorter in bash: echo {1..32} |
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| 08:10.15 | Amarande | I think recount is broken |
| 08:10.28 | Amarande | it's claiming a mage did 9200+ DPS against Kael'thas heroic at 72 |
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| 08:12.03 | Amarande | wow, BC random heroic pops pretty reliably, thought it would be slow |
| 08:12.20 | Amarande | people must be tired of UK :) |
| 08:12.27 | Amarande | and nexus, and AN |
| 08:12.37 | Amarande | yeah, that wasn't so smart of Blizzard to put the instances everyone hates at the beginning :) |
| 08:12.40 | Jamash | also could be level 70 twinks |
| 08:15.03 | greppy | hated HoS and HoL way more than AN or Nexus. |
| 08:15.43 | Elkano | yeah, HoS' event is just... :/ |
| 08:15.58 | Elkano | since it still takes ages even when totaly overgeared |
| 08:21.18 | Amarande | why has it become a standard to leave the party when there's a bad pull and wipe, btw? |
| 08:21.32 | Amarande | I'm thinking that's getting detrimental to the point the Dungeon Deserter thing should be replaced with a 72 hour ban |
| 08:21.49 | Amarande | with a permanent record on account |
| 08:21.52 | zenzio | because clearly these scrubs aren't worth your super-imba skills and time |
| 08:21.55 | zenzio | (ie. people are idiots) |
| 08:22.54 | Amarande | it's ESPECIALLY irritating as a hunter |
| 08:23.05 | Amarande | since you have to re-heal your pets going into and out of every instance due to the zone bug |
| 08:23.16 | zenzio | zone bug? |
| 08:23.31 | kapipi | Agree, but would like Dungeon Desert to not go into effect after first pull (for those times you accidently select the wrong option in the dungeon finder). |
| 08:23.57 | Amarande | zenzio: the one where pets only have base HP out of proper max HP every time you pass through a loading-screen |
| 08:24.06 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 08:24.07 | Shirik | save me |
| 08:24.11 | Shirik | my SC partner is god-awful |
| 08:24.17 | zenzio | Amarande: ah, I see - haven't played my hunter in instances for some time |
| 08:24.21 | Amarande | because of lag in applying stamina bonuses, and they don't max out the HP when they do, they leave it at base HP and require you to heal it |
| 08:24.46 | Amarande | Granted it synergizes nicely with the Glyph of Never Needing Pet Food but still |
| 08:25.12 | Amarande | kapipi: the problem is that where I really want to see people getting three day bans for asshattery |
| 08:25.25 | Amarande | is when they ragequit after the first wipe in dungeons that aren't so easy, like BC heroics or ICC5's |
| 08:25.28 | Shirik | Shadowed, I need your help |
| 08:25.33 | Shadowed | Shirik whats up |
| 08:25.39 | Shirik | I can't spend resources fast enough |
| 08:25.53 | Shadowed | what race |
| 08:25.56 | Shirik | Terran |
| 08:26.02 | Shirik | It used to be that I couldn't mine fast enough |
| 08:26.05 | Shadowed | build more barracks |
| 08:26.10 | Amarande | ESPECIALLY BC heroics and reg ICC5's, because those tend to attract few enough people that losing one person results in the group falling apart |
| 08:26.10 | Shirik | I have like 4-6 each game |
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| 08:26.13 | Shirik | not enough? |
| 08:26.16 | Amarande | because it takes too long to fill back up |
| 08:26.16 | Shadowed | build more barracks |
| 08:26.19 | Shirik | ok... |
| 08:26.28 | Shadowed | there's not really a set # on how many to build |
| 08:26.39 | Shadowed | if you have excessive minerals, you need more production buildings most likely |
| 08:32.27 | Shirik | .... ok |
| 08:32.36 | Shirik | Here's a pro tip for anyone entering a class titled "Software Safety" |
| 08:32.42 | Shirik | in your term paper, don't write the following: |
| 08:32.51 | Shirik | First Law: A UAV may not injure a friendly, or, through inaction, allow a friendly to come to harm |
| 08:32.52 | Shirik | Second Law: A UAV must obey directions given by friendlies except where such orders would violate the First Law. |
| 08:32.52 | Shirik | Third Law: A UAV must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First and Second Laws. |
| 08:33.06 | Shadowed | hahahah |
| 08:33.10 | Shirik | I'm not kidding |
| 08:33.13 | Shirik | someone wrote this |
| 08:33.20 | mitch0 | wtf is an UAV? |
| 08:33.28 | Shirik | unmanned aerial vehicle |
| 08:33.29 | Shadowed | unmanned air vehicle? |
| 08:33.32 | Shadowed | close enough |
| 08:33.32 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:33.46 | Shirik | technically UAV is not a term that should ever be used |
| 08:33.48 | Shirik | but let's not go there |
| 08:33.55 | batrick | i'd give him an a |
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| 08:34.23 | zenzio | Shirik: why should it not be used? |
| 08:34.30 | zenzio | are you guys secretly manning them? |
| 08:34.52 | Shirik | The correct term is UAS |
| 08:35.13 | zenzio | where the S means? |
| 08:35.19 | Jamash | shirik |
| 08:35.22 | Shirik | Unmanned Aircraft System |
| 08:35.34 | Shirik | the problem stems from the fact that by saying "vehicle" the FAA no longer has control over it or something like that |
| 08:35.44 | Shirik | I don't really understand the problem it's one of those really stupid government technicalities |
| 08:35.59 | zenzio | I won't argue the correctness of that; but "system" to me sounds like something that could be just a ground-based computer, not something that's moving through the air |
| 08:36.29 | Shirik | "aircraft"? |
| 08:36.58 | Mirrormn | indicates that an aircraft is a part of the system as a whole |
| 08:37.09 | Shirik | which it is |
| 08:37.17 | zenzio | Shirik: that would work for me |
| 08:37.29 | Shirik | what would work? |
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| 08:37.43 | zenzio | just plain "unmanned aircraft" |
| 08:37.55 | Mirrormn | I like that better too |
| 08:37.58 | Shirik | why not unmanned aircraft system? |
| 08:38.05 | Shirik | unmanned aircraft seems to argue it's only an aircraft |
| 08:38.13 | Mirrormn | well, isn't it? |
| 08:38.15 | Shirik | no |
| 08:38.28 | zenzio | when I say "UAV", I'm talking about the piece that flies around in the air |
| 08:38.29 | Shirik | UAS refers to the entire system, including ground control, any supplementary systems, etc. |
| 08:38.35 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 08:38.41 | Mirrormn | that seems perfectly reasonable then |
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| 08:38.51 | Shirik | ok then UA zenzio :) |
| 08:39.16 | Mirrormn | yeah, in that context, when you want to refer to *solely* the aircraft, do you just say "UA"? |
| 08:39.17 | zenzio | Shirik: and given your recent elaboration, in that case I would agree with you too (since you really are talking about the whole system) |
| 08:39.24 | Jamash | why not just call them killbots |
| 08:39.34 | Shirik | because not all of them kill? |
| 08:39.35 | Mirrormn | government technicalities, again |
| 08:40.21 | Shirik | back to the topic thouh |
| 08:40.24 | Shirik | wtf @ that paper |
| 08:40.26 | Shirik | seriously |
| 08:40.28 | Jamash | ok, call the legit ones airbots and the others killbots |
| 08:41.11 | Mirrormn | I'm not sure I fully understand your outrage |
| 08:41.36 | Shirik | Do you get where it comes from? |
| 08:41.43 | Jamash | are you mad because the author is cribbing from asimov without giving credit? |
| 08:41.47 | Mirrormn | is it that he's trying to pass off Asimov's 3 Laws as original thought? |
| 08:41.47 | zenzio | Asimov? |
| 08:42.09 | Shirik | I can't tell if it's an attempt to pass it off as original thought or not |
| 08:42.12 | Shirik | but this is a professional paper |
| 08:42.15 | zenzio | I remember a while ago seeing someone link a robots.txt that had Asimov's rules |
| 08:42.19 | Shirik | not some joke |
| 08:42.21 | Jamash | zenzio: nice |
| 08:42.37 | Mirrormn | I mean I can see a scenario in which a paper would quote the three laws, then attribute them to asimov, and then go on to connect each point to the topic at hand, in depth |
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| 08:42.42 | Jamash | Shirik: You just said it was for a class |
| 08:42.47 | Shirik | yes |
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| 08:42.51 | Shirik | is that not professional? |
| 08:42.57 | Jamash | no, that's academic |
| 08:43.16 | Shirik | I fail to see the issue |
| 08:43.22 | Mirrormn | it's professional if you get paid to get an education, I guess |
| 08:43.33 | Jamash | unless you're paying the author to write the paper, it's not professional |
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| 08:49.57 | Shirik | purl, hi |
| 08:49.58 | purl | hello, shirik |
| 08:50.25 | Mirrormn | purl, kill Shirik |
| 08:50.25 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized anti-photon gun at Shirik |
| 08:50.33 | Shirik | :( |
| 08:50.48 | Mirrormn | someone didn't teach purl the Three Laws =/ |
| 08:51.33 | zenzio | it doesn't count for virtual personalities, or singleplayer games would be very boring |
| 08:51.36 | Jamash | someone didn't teach purl physics either |
| 08:51.53 | Mirrormn | someone didn't teach Jamash how to have a good time! |
| 08:52.07 | Jamash | I'm having a good time |
| 08:52.11 | Mirrormn | you' |
| 08:52.24 | Mirrormn | meh I suddenly don't care about this anymore |
| 08:52.26 | Mirrormn | good night! |
| 08:52.36 | Jamash | don't let the bedbugs bite |
| 08:52.36 | Wobin | omg |
| 08:52.50 | Wobin | troll druid epic flight form |
| 08:52.52 | Mirrormn | oh man if I had bedbugs >< |
| 08:52.54 | Wobin | omg |
| 08:53.01 | Jamash | BAT FORM GO |
| 08:53.05 | Mirrormn | I am so entomophobic |
| 08:53.18 | Jamash | do software bugs scare you? |
| 08:53.38 | Mirrormn | yes :c |
| 08:53.41 | zenzio | Wobin: link/SS? |
| 08:53.55 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjAvHvZtP0&feature=player_embedded |
| 08:54.00 | Wobin | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/november/epicdruidtroll.jpg |
| 08:54.06 | Shirik | I think I have been brainwashed |
| 08:54.08 | Jamash | so hot |
| 08:54.17 | Shirik | I no longer think of "software bug" as a meaningful term |
| 08:54.29 | Mirrormn | how does that work? |
| 08:54.37 | zenzio | Wobin: cheers |
| 08:54.39 | Jamash | it's a piece of software with six legs and an exoskeleton |
| 08:54.58 | Jamash | and a segmented body |
| 08:55.03 | zenzio | Shirik: how come? |
| 08:55.12 | Shirik | it's ambiguous |
| 08:55.27 | Shirik | "requirements defect" "design defect" "implementation defect" and more all are software bugs |
| 08:56.03 | Mirrormn | "I no longer think of "software bug" as a meaningful term" (goes on to explicitly define the term) |
| 08:56.08 | Mirrormn | ^____^ |
| 08:56.35 | Jamash | I prefer to apply the term "defecti(ive)" to the specifier, designer, implementor or user |
| 08:56.41 | Mirrormn | also you should add "use comprehension defect", I think |
| 08:56.47 | Mirrormn | *user |
| 08:56.56 | Shirik | no |
| 08:57.00 | Shirik | I don't deal with those |
| 08:57.01 | Jamash | s/i\(/\(/ |
| 08:57.03 | Shirik | that's a human factors problem |
| 08:57.33 | Jamash | all software bugs are human factors problems |
| 08:58.59 | Jamash | at least until non-biological intelligence takes off |
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| 09:03.54 | zenzio | "Paid faction and race changes will be available immediately once Cataclysm is released." - that's funky, but not really important since "there will be no Realm First achievements associated with leveling characters of a specific race." |
| 09:04.09 | Jamash | okay |
| 09:10.11 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:10.44 | Corrodias2 | of course, the only reason anyone would do such a thing is to get achievements |
| 09:10.51 | Corrodias2 | because those are quite valuable |
| 09:11.20 | zenzio | I wouldn't say that's the only reason, just the most common one |
| 09:12.34 | Corrodias2 | god, i remember reading an opinion a couple of years ago, in which the writer suggested we might better of if WoW just up and died, because people would start playing other things. at the time, i could see his point but didn't really agree. |
| 09:12.59 | Corrodias2 | now... jesus, those people need to "get out more", and by out i mean into actual, compelling experiences |
| 09:13.22 | Corrodias2 | of gaming, not like rock climbing or something |
| 09:14.01 | batrick | are they removing AQ in cata? |
| 09:14.46 | zenzio | even cats understand... http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/11/10/funny-pictures-put-plantz-on-pizza/ |
| 09:15.10 | Corrodias2 | i knew the day would come that i would be an outdated old man. i just didn't expect it to happen at 26. |
| 09:15.19 | zenzio | outdated? |
| 09:15.28 | Wobin | ... holy... dear jesus christ |
| 09:15.31 | Wobin | -why- |
| 09:15.35 | Wobin | why do I do this to myself |
| 09:15.43 | zenzio | you read the comments, didn't you |
| 09:15.44 | Wobin | and read the 'favourite' comments on icanhaz? |
| 09:15.47 | Corrodias2 | kitty is curious :3 |
| 09:16.00 | Wobin | I found myself reading it out aloud |
| 09:16.09 | Wobin | so I could understand what the goddamn fuck it was about |
| 09:18.14 | Corrodias2 | i come from an age gone by, when achievements and paid cosmetic changes would be considered a joke. or so i'd like to think. people have been competing in "scores" forever. but i do have a hard time seeing someone paying an extra quarter per play to change their Pac Man red. |
| 09:18.55 | Mirrormn | cosmetic changes are a joke in my guild |
| 09:19.08 | Mirrormn | there's like one guy who always gets them and then we all make fun of him all raid long ^_^ |
| 09:19.49 | Mirrormn | oh damn I was supposed to have gone to bed like half an hour ago |
| 09:20.09 | Corrodias2 | it's one thing to put a little time and effort into earning little trinkets to dangle on your model, though i wouldn't put much effort into it myself. it's anothe rto spend actual currency on it. |
| 09:20.18 | krka | i make fun of my wife everytime she puts on make up |
| 09:20.35 | Mirrormn | Oh vile Reddit, thou supple siren's song of the world's collective conscious! |
| 09:20.57 | Corrodias2 | you could say that they are doing productive work at their job instead, and using the money on the game, but then it makes me wonder why their job is more fun than the game they're supposedly enjoying |
| 09:21.38 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:21.43 | krka | could it be that some parts of the game are more fun then other parts of the game? |
| 09:22.14 | Corrodias2 | well, that i can easily agree with |
| 09:22.36 | Mirrormn | well, I derive no inherent fun simply from having a thing which people can see |
| 09:22.52 | Mirrormn | I derive fun when that thing represents some sort of achievement which reflects upon my own skill |
| 09:23.08 | Mirrormn | for then, it is a trophy |
| 09:23.12 | airtonix | nodes head sage like |
| 09:23.13 | Corrodias2 | or even dedication, or whatever it takes |
| 09:23.19 | mitch0 | are we diving into a pointless discussion? :) |
| 09:23.19 | Mirrormn | yeah, dedication, too |
| 09:23.22 | Mirrormn | to a point |
| 09:23.29 | krka | oh noe! people have different ideas of what fun is |
| 09:23.34 | krka | alert the press |
| 09:23.37 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:23.48 | Corrodias2 | tell the british press. they'll put a fun spin on it. |
| 09:23.50 | airtonix | wait which paper shall i ring ? |
| 09:23.55 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:23.56 | Mirrormn | I even respect people who are Insane in the Membrane, although I would never attempt to obtain that achievement myself |
| 09:24.01 | zenzio | obviously people are spending enough money on these paid services that Blizzard considers them worthwhile |
| 09:24.07 | krka | if only Corrodias2 was emperor of the world and could establish once and for all the correct way to have fun |
| 09:24.17 | Corrodias2 | or is it united kingly press? is it irish republican and english press? |
| 09:24.22 | airtonix | ministry of vanity... |
| 09:24.25 | Mirrormn | well, the point is, it's not "fun", it's "vanity" |
| 09:24.33 | Mirrormn | And vanity should be treated with disdain! |
| 09:24.37 | krka | it's not fun _for you_ |
| 09:24.55 | Mirrormn | My definition of fun shall not be impinged upon! |
| 09:24.55 | airtonix | minivan |
| 09:25.04 | Corrodias2 | krka: i take direct issue with it because they spend money on things i don't enjoy, which encourages them and discourages the development of things i do enjoy, within the same market. |
| 09:25.34 | Mirrormn | on the other hand |
| 09:25.40 | airtonix | Corrodias2, you can stop playing... |
| 09:25.42 | Corrodias2 | why make something interesting when you can make millions on a sparklepony... |
| 09:25.50 | airtonix | the stronger willed person takes the steeper path |
| 09:25.56 | Mirrormn | if you assume that the things they are buying actually take very little effort to create |
| 09:26.26 | Mirrormn | then Blizzard is basically raking in free money which will go towards the development of things you actually like |
| 09:26.34 | Corrodias2 | i did stop playing WoW... must be over a year ago now, |
| 09:26.34 | krka | what do you know, the people who pay are more interesting than people who don't pay, in the eyes of developers |
| 09:26.53 | airtonix | except at blizzconn |
| 09:27.03 | Wobin | we make fun of people in our guild who have sparkle ponies |
| 09:27.08 | Wobin | but that's just that, fun. |
| 09:27.11 | airtonix | "Oh lawd save me from the peasants" |
| 09:27.19 | Wobin | What they do with their money is completely up to them |
| 09:27.29 | Amarande | wow, when did HSH get so easy? |
| 09:27.37 | airtonix | when it was made ? |
| 09:27.41 | Wobin | Why should anyone else have any say in what's a right way to spend something that isn't even yours |
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| 09:28.10 | airtonix | Because wow is not a democracy or a place of freedom of speech ? |
| 09:28.11 | Corrodias2 | hah, please do not get the impression that i am suggesting that people be forced to play things i like. |
| 09:28.13 | Amarande | I considered getting a sparkle pony once, when it seemed like $25 might get you something unique and fun |
| 09:28.19 | Amarande | then I saw half of Orgrimmar had them and passed |
| 09:28.42 | Wobin | I'd consider getting a sparkle pony, before all mounts started scaling automatically |
| 09:28.44 | Corrodias2 | put words in your own mouth; my point is only that i am disappointed with the trends. |
| 09:29.00 | Wobin | but then I idled in SW for a bit, and the whinny drove me utterly insane |
| 09:29.11 | airtonix | you thought something that costs a mere $25 would get you something unique and fun ? |
| 09:29.17 | Wobin | it sounds like someone putting a sack of rats through a thresher |
| 09:29.21 | Amarande | I guess given that like, every character I make lately is a female blood elf, sparkle pony might not be *too* out of place, but ... heh |
| 09:29.31 | harl | rawrf wuff |
| 09:29.36 | Corrodias2 | you need to spend a few billion for that. get a decommissioned fighter jet. |
| 09:29.43 | airtonix | ^ |
| 09:29.54 | Corrodias2 | (actually that might be a high estimate. it may be even more affordable!) |
| 09:29.56 | airtonix | or build your holiday home in an old missle silo |
| 09:30.10 | krka | i wonder how much blizzard could charge for some virtual item and get it sold |
| 09:30.14 | Wobin | airtonix: heating and cooling that would be painful |
| 09:30.20 | krka | $1000? $10000? $100000? |
| 09:30.24 | krka | you know _someone_ would buy it |
| 09:30.37 | airtonix | poses a steely face.... |
| 09:30.40 | airtonix | i could endure it |
| 09:30.43 | Wobin | There was a social experiment on the app store |
| 09:30.54 | Wobin | They made an app that just said something like "GOLD!" |
| 09:31.00 | Wobin | then put it up for $1 |
| 09:31.05 | airtonix | OMG im there!~ |
| 09:31.08 | Wobin | then doubled the price, each time someone bought it |
| 09:31.09 | airtonix | wait |
| 09:31.11 | Corrodias2 | i wonder how well those underground homes are insulated. gotta mind the radon, though. ventilate! |
| 09:31.25 | zenzio | I liked the "I am rich"-app better |
| 09:31.25 | Wobin | just to see how many people would end up buying it |
| 09:31.51 | Wobin | zenzio: I think it was a similar thing to that |
| 09:32.17 | zenzio | Wobin: yours sounds more like an actual experiment though, pretty cool |
| 09:33.45 | airtonix | zenzio, is that with the asian self help guy from family guy? |
| 09:34.24 | Shirik | my roommate is trashed |
| 09:34.28 | zenzio | "I am rich"? No, it was some expensive app that only showed a picture of a diamond or something. Think it was roughly 150 dollars or whatever |
| 09:34.29 | Shirik | this is why I enjoy not drinking |
| 09:34.37 | Shirik | if you drink you don't get to watch everyone else |
| 09:35.18 | airtonix | must be funny if you're next to shirik |
| 09:35.29 | adys_ | Hey |
| 09:35.30 | adys_ | Shirik |
| 09:35.31 | adys_ | http://twitter.com/pdesperaux |
| 09:35.32 | adys_ | \o/ |
| 09:36.29 | zenzio | I don't get it |
| 09:36.38 | Wobin | he already has three followers |
| 09:36.40 | Wobin | Adys |
| 09:36.42 | Wobin | and two sluts |
| 09:36.51 | zenzio | who is he? |
| 09:36.57 | adys_ | l2watch psych |
| 09:37.02 | Wobin | a character from Psych I believe |
| 09:37.19 | zenzio | blinks |
| 09:37.27 | zenzio | I've heard the name (of the series) |
| 09:37.46 | adys_ | you both fail. :( |
| 09:38.08 | Wobin | adys_: the name's misspelled anyway |
| 09:38.17 | Wobin | it's despereux |
| 09:38.29 | Wobin | er |
| 09:38.33 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.37 | adys_ | it's both |
| 09:38.45 | adys_ | eaux in the first, aux in the second |
| 09:39.25 | Wobin | what's the big deal with the twitter account then? |
| 09:39.55 | adys_ | I can't do this with you right now. |
| 09:40.15 | Wobin | that's fine. I'm going to care even less later =) |
| 09:42.49 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:44.11 | krka | i could care less! |
| 09:45.03 | zenzio | how much less could you care? |
| 09:45.30 | krka | about half |
| 09:47.01 | adys_ | ~krka++ |
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| 09:49.15 | krka | the good thing about that statement is that you can use about almost anything |
| 09:49.36 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.49 | airtonix | if krka could care 10 then he would want to care 9 |
| 09:50.24 | airtonix | wait no |
| 09:50.40 | airtonix | if krka could care 4 you then he would want to care 2 you |
| 09:50.48 | krka | it's very rare that my care is an absolute zero |
| 09:50.59 | krka | i could be close to zero i guess |
| 09:51.07 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.17 | airtonix | absolute zero is just -blahblah centigrade |
| 09:51.20 | krka | do you measure care in kelvin? |
| 09:51.28 | airtonix | care is a factor |
| 09:51.32 | zenzio | it's 50 degrees below absolute zero! |
| 09:52.10 | krka | airtonix: i could care less how you define care |
| 09:52.23 | airtonix | ok |
| 09:52.48 | airtonix | observes that krka still has units of care left |
| 09:53.06 | Wobin | he keeps them in a jar by his bed |
| 09:53.26 | airtonix | [Krkas Jar of Care] |
| 09:53.44 | airtonix | Blue, Purple or Orange ? |
| 09:56.25 | zenzio | grey |
| 09:56.56 | krka | i measure my care in carebears, it's not in a jar! |
| 09:57.19 | airtonix | so [Krkas Human SkinBag of Care] ? |
| 09:57.48 | krka | You have the eyes of ten women. ...I don't mean, like, in a jar. I wasn't accusing you. |
| 09:57.51 | airtonix | Krka.... where is your toa |
| 09:58.27 | airtonix | observes that krka still has units of care left |
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| 09:59.06 | krka | toa? |
| 09:59.21 | Wobin | terms of agreement? |
| 09:59.42 | airtonix | You've obviously not heard of the Volcano that nearly wiped out the southern hemisphere in the 1900s |
| 10:00.08 | airtonix | In the phillipines |
| 10:00.40 | zenzio | ah, clever... Krakatoa (spelling?) |
| 10:08.48 | airtonix | oh wee effing PIMP |
| 10:09.31 | airtonix | jquerymobile + phonegap + eclipse adt :) |
| 10:09.49 | airtonix | http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/30862722/phonegap-android-eclipse-quickstart |
| 10:11.09 | airtonix | I'm going to try make a read for the html versions of the Lone Wolf books |
| 10:11.25 | krka | intellij + android ftw |
| 10:11.28 | airtonix | thing needs a proper action sheet thing for android |
| 10:11.33 | krka | eclipse ftp |
| 10:11.45 | airtonix | die in a fire |
| 10:12.50 | airtonix | gogo krka : http://www.projectaon.org/en/Main/Books |
| 10:13.06 | airtonix | http://www.projectaon.org/en/statskeeper/ |
| 10:14.25 | krka | wtf? |
| 10:14.31 | airtonix | http://www.projectaon.org/en/statskeeper/ |
| 10:14.33 | airtonix | woops |
| 10:14.48 | airtonix | http://www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/07cd/sect206.htm |
| 10:17.39 | krka | i couldn't care less about that |
| 10:17.52 | airtonix | ok |
| 10:23.53 | airtonix | i just realised fallout new vegas has original background music from fallout 2 |
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| 10:38.36 | Cide | welcome back |
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| 13:16.59 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:18.25 | |Jelly| | yawns. |
| 13:18.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio! Morning, Jelly-dear! |
| 13:19.10 | |Jelly| | Hey Peppy |
| 13:21.43 | Lopeppeppy | are we having fun yet? |
| 13:24.44 | zenzio | as fun as one can on a Thursday afternoon |
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| 13:26.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, well then, carry on... |
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| 13:27.15 | |Jelly| | Fun? Our VP of Retail is coming in today. |
| 13:27.19 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, nasty, Jelly. |
| 13:28.11 | Lopeppeppy | Tell me that your store manager knows how to wrange the VP? |
| 13:28.22 | |Jelly| | Well, I personally couldn't care less but it makes all the managers freak out. |
| 13:28.37 | |Jelly| | My store manager is a fucking idiot. |
| 13:28.50 | zenzio | you should be walking around your office, randomly pointing and shouting "OMG HE'S HERE! Oh, wait, that's someone else" |
| 13:29.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ick. That means s/he can't wrangle the VP, which means much more likelihood of the VP actually talking to staff, which sucks. |
| 13:29.37 | Lopeppeppy | I got off on the wrong foot with my district manager that way, and she never did like me for the next 6 years that I worked there... |
| 13:30.19 | |Jelly| | ouch |
| 13:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Corporate visits *suck* |
| 13:31.03 | |Jelly| | For all intents and purposes, I do my job. I just don't like everything that I'm doing being scrutinized. |
| 13:31.21 | |Jelly| | Especially when one considers that with out old GM, we were number one in the company and with the new on, we're .. last. |
| 13:31.21 | zenzio | |Jelly|: I second that |
| 13:31.39 | Lopeppeppy | That's... a big tumble, Jelly |
| 13:31.44 | |Jelly| | And how |
| 13:32.01 | |Jelly| | It's all morale. She's essentially a Walmart greeter on speed. |
| 13:32.05 | Lopeppeppy | we slipped from 3 to 4 and there was HELL to pay. |
| 13:32.21 | |Jelly| | So she's walking around, attacking people, ruining sales, etc and the salespeople just don't give a fuck anymore because she's there. |
| 13:33.00 | Lopeppeppy | Guerrila retail! RAWR!! |
| 13:34.11 | |Jelly| | hehe |
| 13:36.29 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:37.23 | Lopeppeppy | You're so sweet, Fisker. |
| 13:37.44 | Fisker | indeed |
| 13:39.49 | Torhal | |Jelly|: That sounds like Walmart, period. |
| 13:43.10 | Lopeppeppy | Once I get past the door, the Walmart staff don't bother me. The mall stores? Drive me nuts. |
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| 13:46.17 | Fisker | you don't have nuts Lopeppeppy |
| 13:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | Sure I do, I steal them from my second boyfriend. |
| 13:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | He's not using them anyway, am I right? |
| 13:48.13 | Fisker | buuuuurn |
| 13:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | You think so? That one is good? I'll have to tell him about it later on. |
| 13:48.49 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:49.19 | Lopeppeppy | What, you don't think I keep seekrits from my boyfriends, do you? "Honey, I totally insulted you in a room of people you don't know and haven't heard of." |
| 13:50.15 | Computerpunk | I love Fisker. |
| 13:53.41 | Nob-afk | Rawr! |
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| 13:53.58 | harl | wuff! |
| 13:55.35 | Fisker | yor gay Computerpunk |
| 13:56.58 | Computerpunk | No, I'm Fisker-oriented. |
| 14:00.49 | Nobgul | lol |
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| 14:07.47 | Kraps | "It appears that the victim was a Coprophiliac" |
| 14:07.48 | Kraps | "Guess you can say... <glasses> ...his shit's all fucked up" |
| 14:07.50 | Kraps | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH |
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| 14:15.25 | Nobgul | Anyone know how to take a rss feed and filter out results to only display information you want? |
| 14:18.00 | Nobgul | Err |
| 14:19.43 | Ackis | waking up with the shits sucks amiright Kraps? |
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| 14:25.30 | Ackis | why is this macro causing this error: http://paste.curseforge.com/2838/ ? |
| 14:28.16 | alestane | If I had to hazard a guess, bad version of the /in command. |
| 14:28.26 | Nobgul | did you look at the chatframe.lua? |
| 14:28.59 | Nobgul | Ah yer in need a libary or addon doesn't it? |
| 14:29.17 | Ackis | iirc /in is part of Ace |
| 14:29.46 | Nobgul | hrmm well chatframe.lua line is |
| 14:29.47 | Nobgul | editBox.header:Hide(); |
| 14:31.25 | Nobgul | I think i have a old framexml |
| 14:34.12 | Nobgul | Anyone know of a good calander to put up event for multi guilds? Hopefully something that will not hit the stupid 100 invite limit? |
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| 14:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | Like... Google calendar, Nobgul? |
| 14:37.08 | Nobgul | Like Group Calander 5 |
| 14:37.11 | Nobgul | Ingame addon. |
| 14:39.44 | zenzio | "According to gameindustry.biz, K2 Network, the publisher behind GamersFirst, has purchased APB. Sources say that K2 paid around £1.5 million for the game, and that there is a "possibility that the shooter may be up and running again before the end of the year."" |
| 14:39.58 | Nobgul | I guess if there was a web based solution that would allow people to signup without requiring user registration for the calander app it would be ok. |
| 14:40.07 | zenzio | wonder if that's true. £1.5M sounds pretty cheap |
| 14:41.07 | Kraps | http://www.mcvuk.com/news/41746/Retail-threatens-Steam-ban |
| 14:41.08 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/newspaper_apology.jpg |
| 14:41.18 | Lopeppeppy | Google Cal just lets you put up a listing, no signups. I only mentioned it because you weren't specific in what you wanted. |
| 14:42.11 | Nobgul | Yea sorry. This Guild Event Manager looks good. But it is nto updated and i have enough of my own addons to deal with. |
| 14:44.01 | zenzio | Kraps: intriguing, wonder how that will turn out |
| 14:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | Does it not work anymore? Or just that it hasn't been updated recently so you're not sure about it? |
| 14:45.01 | Nobgul | It throws tons of error's |
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| 14:45.44 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.zam.com/forum.html?forum=21&mid=128766475713008445 |
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| 14:47.05 | Nobgul | Cheers |
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| 14:54.49 | Lunessa | station |
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| 14:56.19 | Kraps | gas |
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| 14:57.00 | Lopeppeppy | Still with jury duty, Lunessa? |
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| 14:57.09 | Lunessa | Until Monday |
| 14:58.07 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. *huggle* |
| 14:58.11 | Kraps | Lunessa: it was the butler in the bathroom with the cordless phone |
| 14:58.26 | Lopeppeppy | I read that as "butter" and was horribly confused... |
| 14:58.28 | Fisker | my feet are brr'ing Lopeppeppy |
| 14:58.39 | Kraps | heh |
| 14:58.40 | Lunessa | Kraps: I have the Personal Assistant, in the Hallway with the Letter Opener. |
| 14:59.05 | Kraps | Lunessa: whats the case about? |
| 14:59.48 | Lunessa | Kraps: I think it's just a bunch of traffic cases since you can have those by jury here if you chose. |
| 14:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, are you wearing socks? |
| 15:00.06 | Kraps | oh interesting |
| 15:03.02 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/11/10/funny-pictures-not-the-cutest-kitten/ - Rock! |
| 15:04.39 | Lopeppeppy | Such big bright eyes, Lunessa. |
| 15:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | The better to eat Twitter with! |
| 15:04.55 | Lunessa | muwahahahaha - No. |
| 15:05.10 | Lopeppeppy | is quite contrite. |
| 15:05.39 | Lopeppeppy | I got a picture of my two up on the sink together this morning. Moose was trying to teach Frankenkitty how to drink from the drip, it was hysterical. |
| 15:09.40 | Lunessa | Hahaha. |
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| 15:31.34 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple MentalPower|Work |
| 15:31.34 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples MentalPower|Work quite well, and hands MentalPower|Work to lopeppeppy |
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| 15:39.41 | MentalPower|Work | yeah, I dunno what's going on |
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| 15:43.36 | Ackis | resets MentalPower|Work's connection. |
| 15:46.47 | Lopeppeppy | It's not sending me the time out message, but the "reset by peer" message, which means that there's a gremlin on your interwebs. *serious nod* |
| 15:46.49 | Kraps | man sc is so great http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agFNbuv0g2A |
| 15:49.43 | Computerpunk | http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/6/cx8/mhiw/330883/761240418.jpg |
| 15:49.49 | Computerpunk | Dunno if it's NSFW or not. |
| 15:51.31 | krka | SFW |
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| 15:56.01 | Fisker | blargh |
| 15:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Put on more socks then. |
| 15:56.48 | Fisker | moar socks |
| 15:57.30 | Kraps | i herd u liek socks Fisker |
| 15:58.14 | Fisker | i wanna suck your socks |
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| 16:00.54 | Kraps | get your own |
| 16:02.44 | Nobgul | 0-O |
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| 16:17.39 | Kraps | "Justin Bieber Hits 6 Million Twitter Followers!" |
| 16:17.59 | Fisker | how violent |
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| 16:19.42 | nicoli_s | it felt good to see him get killed on south park |
| 16:20.02 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 16:20.04 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:20.14 | Fisker | cthulhu looks like something Blizzard made |
| 16:21.15 | nicoli_s | it does |
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| 16:26.35 | Lunessa | Cthulhu waits dreaming. |
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| 16:36.38 | nicoli_s | its gonna be like the crow every day when cthulhu comes |
| 16:42.07 | Fisker | i'm gonna kill you |
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| 16:47.44 | xanax` | hello |
| 16:48.43 | xanax` | I am trying to change some settings of RangeDisplay but I don't know how to move the "target distance" close to my cursor.. |
| 16:48.55 | xanax` | can someone help me ? |
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| 16:52.55 | Lulia | I don't know much about positioning with cursors, sorry |
| 16:53.02 | xanax` | ok |
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| 16:55.56 | Nobgul | umm what was the question. 1 sec |
| 16:56.32 | Nobgul | RangeDisplay is a addon i would assumer |
| 16:56.35 | Nobgul | err assume* |
| 16:57.10 | xanax` | well, I would like to position the rangedisplay frame close to my cursor |
| 16:57.42 | Nobgul | Ok 1 sec |
| 16:58.08 | Nobgul | I havent used the addon so this is just a shot in the dark but. It is a statonary window? Or does it follow your cussor? |
| 16:58.34 | xanax` | it follows the cursor |
| 16:58.48 | Nobgul | Ok |
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| 17:00.25 | Lunessa | Awww.... Dino De Laurentiis died today. |
| 17:00.46 | Nobgul | In rangedisplay.lua |
| 17:00.56 | Nobgul | line # 111 |
| 17:01.00 | Arrowmaster | my dad just dumped half a bag of clearance halloween candy on me |
| 17:01.03 | Nobgul | looks like your offset for the |
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| 17:01.30 | Nobgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.30 | Nobgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.41 | xanax` | it's settable ingame |
| 17:01.46 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 17:01.53 | xanax` | I did once but i forgot how to do it |
| 17:01.57 | Nobgul | did i miss the whole problem? |
| 17:04.03 | Nobgul | without loading the addon myself i wouldnt be able to look but it looks like its using the acegui soo it should be under the interface addons tab. cause there are no slash handlers in the addon |
| 17:04.50 | xanax` | yes it is |
| 17:05.31 | Nobgul | If you can't find the ingame setting just edit it in the lua and /console reloadui |
| 17:05.41 | Nobgul | in game and it will move you can fidgit with it |
| 17:06.00 | xanax` | ok |
| 17:06.22 | Nobgul | i would check it for u but im scanning the ah. |
| 17:09.59 | industrial | asd;flkjas;fljk what kind of shit is this |
| 17:10.08 | industrial | Games Live for windows |
| 17:10.08 | industrial | or eh |
| 17:10.12 | industrial | games for Windows LIVE |
| 17:10.19 | industrial | need it to play Lost Planet 2 apparently |
| 17:10.25 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, xbox achievements |
| 17:10.32 | industrial | on my pc. |
| 17:10.36 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 17:11.08 | industrial | gross. :( singleplayer games with achievements and accounts and bleh! diaf |
| 17:11.27 | sylvanaar_work | ~ /cough starcraft |
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| 17:12.10 | industrial | sylvanaar_work: same thing. |
| 17:12.27 | industrial | The times where a game was just the install directory on your disk is over |
| 17:13.01 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, but you had to use your modem to download patches - that sucked |
| 17:13.39 | sylvanaar_work | and copy protection was reading some word out on some page of the user manual |
| 17:14.10 | sylvanaar_work | sorry, had a 90s moment |
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| 17:14.40 | Lopeppeppy | I am craving deep fried rattlesnake. Lunessa, can you hook me up? |
| 17:15.04 | Lunessa | Ya'll want BBQ sauce with that? |
| 17:15.33 | Arrowmaster | industrial: the worst part is the achievements in that game, they are so fucking retarded ill never touch it |
| 17:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | Honey mustard please, or just plain honey |
| 17:19.17 | Lunessa | Now I'm hungry. |
| 17:20.50 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry darlin'. I had Dots for lunch. |
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| 17:23.45 | Lunessa | mmmm. |
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| 17:24.30 | nightcracker | sup all |
| 17:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but dots do not a meal make. Snake, on the other hand, is a perfect snack food. |
| 17:24.57 | Lunessa | I need lunch soonish. |
| 17:25.02 | nightcracker | Rend makes a tasty blood soup... |
| 17:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | I need something deep fried, nightcracker. |
| 17:25.35 | Lunessa | brb, installing OSX 10.6 updates. |
| 17:27.03 | nightcracker | Could someone check out this article I wrote? It's not finished yet but it would be great if you told me what you think: http://nclabs.org/articles/2 |
| 17:28.12 | Kraps | nightcracker: its terrible |
| 17:28.16 | Kraps | Lp |
| 17:28.18 | Kraps | :p |
| 17:28.53 | Kraps | kids around a lot |
| 17:29.07 | nightcracker | right |
| 17:29.11 | nightcracker | and now go go read it :P |
| 17:30.16 | Kraps | i have a small burn on my arm |
| 17:30.40 | nightcracker | lick your wounds |
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| 17:31.01 | TMc51 | Wow, I never knew that WoW treated every resolution as if it had a 768px height. O_O |
| 17:31.42 | nightcracker | It does |
| 17:31.44 | Lopeppeppy | Placement and sizing. First sentence mentions 3 factors, last sentence mentions 4. Basic math error going on there. |
| 17:32.01 | nightcracker | I don't count the wow engine as a factor |
| 17:32.15 | nightcracker | but it is your enemy :) |
| 17:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | Then don't list it with the factors. |
| 17:32.54 | TMc51 | it doesnt look lik he listed it with the factors, but just goes into giving a short description of it before going into them. |
| 17:33.18 | industrial | Arrowmaster: yeah seems its just a console game ported to the PC also, I don't like this AT ALL |
| 17:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | :) That's your non-technical-reader feedback -- keep the actual english clear for the reader. Just because it's a tech article doesn't give you license to play monkeyshines. |
| 17:33.30 | industrial | even the menu interface bugs me (because I'm not a console user/gamer) |
| 17:33.57 | nightcracker | @TMc51, try this little experiment and you'll see why: Set your UI scale to 1 or disable it. Now create a frame 100 pixels wide. Log in to the game and screenshot the frame you see. Measure the frame in something like photoshop and compare that result with <yourresolution> / 768 * 100 |
| 17:34.48 | alestane | Likely to be rebooting shortly, myself. |
| 17:35.21 | Lopeppeppy | reboots alestane! Take that! |
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| 17:35.38 | alestane | *BONGGG* |
| 17:35.39 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:36.02 | TMc51 | nightcracker, sooo, it would be about 115 or so pixels rather than 100? just did it off the top of my head, so I'm probably off by a couple. |
| 17:36.06 | nightcracker | @lopeppeppy fixed |
| 17:36.10 | nightcracker | Yes |
| 17:36.41 | TMc51 | sounds failtastic |
| 17:36.44 | nightcracker | and that's awful because sometimes (depending on the original value) it rounds up and sometimes it rounds down making one pixel borders impossible to maintain |
| 17:36.56 | Lunessa | Wait, someone fixed Lopeppeppy? I wasn't aware she was broken. |
| 17:37.29 | nightcracker | I blame the gnomes. |
| 17:37.41 | alestane | Either that, or they had to before they could let her out to play with the others. |
| 17:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | I *am* a gnome, nightcracker. :) |
| 17:37.52 | nightcracker | No, you're a midget. |
| 17:37.57 | TMc51 | Be glad it wasn't Goblins that did it, or there'd be a crater. ;) |
| 17:38.05 | Lopeppeppy | alestane? Please to confirm my gnomishness? |
| 17:38.19 | nightcracker | @TMc51 Now instead there is a dark void. |
| 17:38.21 | alestane | She's short and cute. |
| 17:38.25 | syrae | jnwhiteh: sorry about the random Twitter follow. I saw your name when kergoth retweeted your book link doodad. |
| 17:38.32 | jnwhiteh | np :P |
| 17:38.39 | Lunessa | What's 'Plan B'? It's the same as 'Plan A' but with twice the explosives! |
| 17:38.41 | jnwhiteh | did I follow you back |
| 17:38.45 | jnwhiteh | or have no idea who you were? :P |
| 17:38.49 | syrae | jnwhiteh: yup. I saw :) |
| 17:39.04 | syrae | you Followed me even though I have a different nick on Twitter |
| 17:39.40 | Lunessa | I'm "anothershoe" on Twitter. Not that I tweet much. |
| 17:39.40 | syrae | Though, my tweets are terribly boring and mundane. Sorry 'bout that |
| 17:39.59 | syrae | <-- Faileas |
| 17:40.05 | alestane | ~pil |
| 17:40.05 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:40.06 | Arrowmaster | ive got Arrowmaster but i never use it |
| 17:40.09 | Lopeppeppy | I talk an awful lot about a lot of nothing. Very gnomish of me. |
| 17:40.52 | syrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:41.09 | industrial | gathering required information |
| 17:41.39 | industrial | half hour later still gathering required information |
| 17:42.34 | TMc51 | same twitter name as IRC name |
| 17:42.42 | Maldivia | ~framexml |
| 17:42.43 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 17:42.44 | industrial | gotta love windows installers, can't even just remove a list of files and/or registry entries without it taking at least 5 minutes |
| 17:43.00 | Cide | better than linux compilers though |
| 17:43.05 | Cide | there you gotta do it by yourself! |
| 17:43.10 | TMc51 | ~rimshot |
| 17:43.10 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 17:43.20 | Lunessa | industrial: Such is life since we moved away from 16bit operating systems. |
| 17:43.43 | industrial | its a list of files.. how can it be harder then rm x;rm y;rm z; ? |
| 17:43.53 | alestane | K, back soon. |
| 17:43.54 | Cide | well on linux you have to find them all |
| 17:44.00 | industrial | or just um, rm -rf the_whole_damn_thing |
| 17:44.04 | Cide | and there's no telling if you missed anything |
| 17:44.10 | TMc51 | sudo rm -rf ./ |
| 17:44.17 | Cide | and it needs to do lots more than that |
| 17:44.30 | industrial | Cide: yeah there is, your package manager knows where everything is, and then it rm's that list of known files |
| 17:44.33 | Cide | it needs to check dll files, if the version installed is required by other components and so on |
| 17:44.39 | industrial | Cide: just as an installer has a list of files to remove |
| 17:44.43 | industrial | uninstaller* |
| 17:44.44 | syrae | has anyone noticed that taller/shorter races have different vertical LoS heights? I heard that gnome tanks can be harder to heal because their vertical target point is lower than that of a standard/large race. Has anyone noticed problems healing small characters or healing from a small character? |
| 17:44.52 | Cide | industrial, you're assuming all software on linux is available in a package manager |
| 17:45.00 | Cide | I've used linux properly for like a month |
| 17:45.10 | Cide | and I've had to compile from source dozens of times already |
| 17:45.29 | Shirik | ilkasnjeabhvsfcdszaãï½ï½ï½ï½ã¹ |
| 17:45.30 | industrial | I was talking about a windows game uninstaller |
| 17:45.32 | Cide | and even so, the architecture isn't as simple on windows |
| 17:45.39 | haste | ~failrik |
| 17:45.39 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 17:45.40 | Shirik | um |
| 17:45.43 | Shirik | hi |
| 17:45.47 | Cide | hi :) |
| 17:46.00 | Shirik | that's what happens when you try to catch your laptop while it's falling |
| 17:46.07 | nevcairiel | syrae: you're new to this game? :) Back in classic, we had to have gnomes and dwarves drink stuff to shapeshift, so they would be healable on some bosses in BWL :P |
| 17:46.10 | Cide | that was a slow fall |
| 17:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | syrae, I used to have trouble when I was using my gnome for raiding, with all of the other toons piled on top of me I couldn't clearly where I was. :) As nevcairiel, that was back in MC and BWL |
| 17:46.27 | Cide | and tauren had to shapeshift to fit into doorways |
| 17:46.29 | syrae | nevcairiel: I didn't raid in Classic. I'm Supa-casual |
| 17:46.41 | syrae | And I've always played ranged DPS classes |
| 17:46.43 | haste | ffffffuuuuuuu |
| 17:46.47 | haste | Test track 11 |
| 17:46.50 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.52 | haste | sync error |
| 17:46.53 | amro | Cide: applications don't install DLLs systemwide |
| 17:46.57 | haste | 99.8% |
| 17:47.02 | Cide | shrug |
| 17:47.16 | Cide | in my experience uninstalls take more like 10 seconds though |
| 17:47.20 | Cide | if that |
| 17:47.26 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 17:47.26 | Lopeppeppy | Hungry Peppy is hungry! And we ain't got no stinkin' entrees. |
| 17:47.30 | Cide | so not sure what that uninstaller was smoking |
| 17:47.31 | industrial | still going, 1 minute of windows time left |
| 17:47.44 | Lunessa | I still am amused when playing my Draenei and I get a Death Bringer's Will proc and turn into an even larger model. |
| 17:47.45 | Cide | blame the program, not the os? |
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| 17:47.53 | syrae | The reason I'm asking is because one of my guild's tanks is a gnome. And my friend really wants to race change to a gnome priest, but he doesn't want to have issues healing the tank become even more exacerbated due to LoS issues |
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| 17:48.09 | nevcairiel | i dont think that would matter much |
| 17:48.10 | Cide | and "windows time" is funny since that estimate is most certainly made by the uninstaller and not the os |
| 17:48.10 | amro | Cide: I actually do blame windows for failing with MSI |
| 17:48.21 | Cide | that's warranted but how many installers use msi? |
| 17:48.28 | Lunessa | syrae: You shouldn't see much of a change. |
| 17:48.29 | amro | a lot |
| 17:48.29 | syrae | My only knowledge of gnomes having a variable vertical height issue was from Black Morass. |
| 17:48.30 | Cide | not that I have much of an issue with msi |
| 17:48.31 | nevcairiel | mostly only MS stuff |
| 17:48.34 | amro | I don't blame MS for installshield |
| 17:48.38 | industrial | I blame the uninstaller system that lots of Microsft made software uses aswell. I know an open source installed (not by name) that will spew out the files it's RMing in a list that scrolls that just works most of the time and is fast aswell |
| 17:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, with the friggin' water in that damn swamp!! |
| 17:48.51 | Lopeppeppy | hated that water |
| 17:48.56 | syrae | hehe |
| 17:49.01 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: at least they fixed it |
| 17:49.03 | Cide | industrial, seems to me that you're blaming windows |
| 17:49.12 | syrae | Watching our tank swim through it was funny as hell |
| 17:49.25 | Cide | "<industrial> gotta love windows installers [...]" |
| 17:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but ugh. Makes me love my human paladin all the more, he's tall enough to walk through water, not frellin' drown all the time. |
| 17:49.47 | syrae | heh |
| 17:49.52 | nevcairiel | btw, the only linux installers for games that i know rather suck as well, always had problems with them |
| 17:49.53 | Cide | if you blamed the uninstaller the proper sentence would be "gotta love this uninstaller" |
| 17:49.54 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: gnome warlock? |
| 17:50.12 | amro | Cide: windows installer doesn't necesarrily blame windows |
| 17:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | gnome backstabbity rogueness |
| 17:50.21 | Cide | amro, not necessarily but likely |
| 17:50.21 | industrial | Cide: Can't pinpoint exactly which part it is that I'm blaming but it's the one that gives you the window with "configuring your blahdeeblah" and generally takes hours. |
| 17:50.33 | Cide | and he generalized it to windows installers, not windows installer |
| 17:50.34 | jnwhiteh | node.js should not be this slow. |
| 17:50.39 | jnwhiteh | something MUST be wrong |
| 17:50.41 | jnwhiteh | anyone familiar? |
| 17:50.43 | industrial | how slow, jnwhiteh ? |
| 17:50.49 | amro | Cide: not likely, you just never give people the benefit of the doubt |
| 17:50.50 | jnwhiteh | at least an order of magnitude |
| 17:50.52 | jnwhiteh | compared to my server |
| 17:51.02 | Cide | amro, I definitely don't |
| 17:51.06 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: ah, hah! :) |
| 17:51.16 | Cide | but do you disagree with my assessment from the discussion? :P |
| 17:51.25 | amro | I think it was offtopic |
| 17:51.36 | Cide | that's irrelevant |
| 17:51.45 | Cide | I just don't like unwarranted windows hate |
| 17:51.48 | jnwhiteh | industrial: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/290032/ is the server code |
| 17:51.48 | amro | sure it is, you can't force someone to argue a point they're not trying to make |
| 17:52.04 | amro | and I don't like unwarranted windows anti-hate |
| 17:52.17 | Cide | what? that makes no sense :P |
| 17:52.30 | nevcairiel | I hope you also don't like unwarranted hate, then :p |
| 17:52.30 | industrial | jnwhiteh: this should serve like 800 pages a second with a simple ab benchmark. Haven't done this myself but I'm sure I'd get that output as others have blogged about it. |
| 17:52.33 | amro | I mean there's no point in defending windows when nobody's attacking it |
| 17:52.44 | Cide | he kinda attacked it |
| 17:52.50 | amro | no, you assumed he did |
| 17:52.53 | Cide | "<industrial> gotta love windows installers, can't even just remove a list of files and/or registry entries without it taking at least 5 minutes" |
| 17:53.02 | Cide | someone else interpret that for me? |
| 17:53.11 | amro | yeah, installers on windows fail |
| 17:53.13 | jnwhiteh | industrial: I'm getting 59 requests per second, at concurrency level of 100 |
| 17:53.36 | amro | you want to see it as "windows fail" |
| 17:53.37 | industrial | oh jolly, it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Martin%27s_Day today |
| 17:53.45 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 17:53.46 | Cide | someone except amro who already has an opinion in the discussion? |
| 17:53.53 | jnwhiteh | setsockopt TCP_NODELAY isn't working for some reason. |
| 17:53.59 | industrial | screaming kids in front of my house inc! |
| 17:53.59 | Cide | amro, yes, because I believe that was what he meant |
| 17:54.07 | amro | but it's not :P |
| 17:54.07 | Cide | or implied anyway |
| 17:54.13 | Cide | how are you to judge? |
| 17:54.18 | Cide | you may hold a contrary opinion |
| 17:54.19 | amro | because he said it's the installer? |
| 17:54.26 | amro | [18:50] <industrial> Cide: Can't pinpoint exactly which part it is that I'm blaming but it's the one that gives you the window with "configuring your blahdeeblah" and generally takes hours. |
| 17:54.38 | Cide | yes, it's easy to come up with that 10 minutes later |
| 17:54.43 | amro | pfft |
| 17:54.45 | Cide | "I did not have sex with that woman" is another example |
| 17:54.48 | nevcairiel | that was the end of the discussion after cide set him straight |
| 17:55.14 | industrial | so everything I say should be correct |
| 17:55.20 | amro | that's not at all how it went |
| 17:55.21 | industrial | and I have no chance of correcting myself afterwards? |
| 17:55.26 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 17:55.27 | Cide | though I believe that was paraphrasing ("I did not have relations with that woman"?) |
| 17:55.32 | industrial | because ultimately what Cide decides about it is truth |
| 17:55.39 | Cide | I don't decide about what is truth |
| 17:55.53 | industrial | conversation --> drain |
| 17:56.01 | Cide | but yes, I would like you to not speak in generalizations about windows always |
| 17:56.19 | industrial | ah well, I just can't :D |
| 17:56.20 | nevcairiel | or any generalizations for that matter |
| 17:56.29 | Cide | then you admit that it was a generalization about windows now? |
| 17:56.37 | amro | wow, cide |
| 17:56.38 | amro | just wow |
| 17:56.42 | Cide | :> |
| 17:56.45 | amro | you need to find a fucking hobby |
| 17:56.50 | Cide | this is my hobby |
| 17:56.51 | nevcairiel | that is his hobby |
| 17:56.58 | amro | hence finding a hobby |
| 17:57.00 | Cide | why do you always pick fights with me when they're not related to you? |
| 17:57.01 | amro | one that isn't full of fail |
| 17:57.06 | Cide | and also |
| 17:57.09 | amro | I'm not picking a fight |
| 17:57.10 | Cide | my conclusion was quite valid |
| 17:57.13 | Cide | uh huh |
| 17:57.16 | amro | I didn't say it wasn't |
| 17:57.23 | adys_ | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1542879986 |
| 17:57.25 | amro | you just always steer the conversation towards what you want |
| 17:57.29 | amro | and go like, I'm right! |
| 17:57.29 | Cide | well yes |
| 17:57.32 | amro | well duh. |
| 17:57.33 | Cide | it would be foolish to do anything else? |
| 17:57.34 | industrial | continues uninstalling software |
| 17:57.43 | Cide | why would I steer it towards a conclusion I disagree with |
| 17:57.53 | amro | no, it would be wise to stop hijacking conversations to make points that nobody's trying to debate |
| 17:57.58 | industrial | ^ |
| 17:58.08 | Cide | well he admitted that he made a generalization about windows |
| 17:58.13 | industrial | and? |
| 17:58.13 | nevcairiel | it wasnt really a conversation to begin with |
| 17:58.15 | amro | probably so you'd get off his nuts |
| 17:58.22 | Cide | no... |
| 17:58.24 | industrial | yes. |
| 17:58.27 | nevcairiel | it was just his rants |
| 17:58.27 | amro | there |
| 17:58.32 | amro | exactly |
| 17:58.33 | Lunessa | When sports fans audition for Glee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoC4yWWxFGs |
| 17:58.33 | Cide | whether or not he was trying to make that point by saying such a thing is kind of irrelevant |
| 17:58.35 | amro | let the man vent some steam |
| 17:58.43 | industrial | steam sucks! |
| 17:58.49 | Cide | that's like saying "I hate jews", and then going "let's not focus on the hate of jews guys, I was trying to make another point" |
| 17:58.50 | industrial | :) |
| 17:58.51 | nevcairiel | actually, steam usually blows |
| 17:58.56 | amro | Cide: that's not it at all |
| 17:58.59 | adys_ | http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/1794.png |
| 17:59.01 | Cide | that's it exactly |
| 17:59.10 | amro | no, it's not |
| 17:59.11 | Cide | if someone generalizes I'm going to continue to jump on his or her nuts |
| 17:59.12 | amro | he wasn't blaming windows |
| 17:59.21 | Cide | he said he was more or less? |
| 17:59.25 | amro | ... |
| 17:59.31 | adys_ | how do you jump on a girl's nuts? |
| 17:59.37 | Katawa | Practice. |
| 17:59.49 | industrial | :') |
| 17:59.53 | adys_ | in fact I'm sort of curious how you manage to jump on a guy's nuts accurately too |
| 17:59.59 | adys_ | but I don't want you to try it out |
| 17:59.59 | Cide | practice |
| 18:00.03 | Cide | I'll show you |
| 18:00.14 | Katawa | "I'll practice you!" |
| 18:00.14 | Cide | also |
| 18:00.16 | Cide | hi adys |
| 18:01.25 | industrial | Katawa: 's what she said |
| 18:01.28 | adys_ | hi Cide |
| 18:01.29 | adys_ | In fact, I can confirm that the Razzashi Hatchling, being a clever and resilient little reptile, has already found a new home, and will be migrating there shortly after the shattering. |
| 18:01.47 | adys_ | lollol. who spent 50000 gold on these in hope to sell them high in 6 months. |
| 18:01.54 | amro | Cide: it's more like saying, "I hate Ehud Barak", and you interpreting it as "I hate jews" |
| 18:02.02 | Cide | no |
| 18:02.05 | amro | yes |
| 18:02.21 | Katawa | Watch the 'new hom' be the blizard pet store. |
| 18:02.24 | Katawa | *home |
| 18:02.32 | Kraps | should i start a new char in mass effect if i want to replay it? |
| 18:02.35 | adys_ | yeah that's a real fucking smart move. |
| 18:02.47 | adys_ | instead of moving a boe drop, lets put it in the blizzard store |
| 18:02.53 | adys_ | lets break every possible rule of sanity |
| 18:02.54 | Cide | amro, that would be "I hate InstallShield", no? |
| 18:02.58 | adys_ | just because we want money |
| 18:03.03 | adys_ | instead of creating a NEW pet exclusive to it |
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| 18:03.06 | adys_ | and get MORE money |
| 18:03.10 | adys_ | gfg Katawa |
| 18:03.18 | amro | Cide: if you were defending installers, then yes. but you were defending windows as the OS |
| 18:03.48 | Cide | naturally, because he made a statement about the OS' installers, using it to rage on the OS specifically |
| 18:04.03 | Cide | his sentence is more "I hate all people of jewish descent" and I interpreted that as hate of jews in general, while you're arguing he focused on the people |
| 18:04.05 | Katawa | gfg? |
| 18:04.17 | Cide | ^ I'm getting uncomfortable talking about jews here but whatever |
| 18:04.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:04.33 | industrial | Cide hates jews. He said it. |
| 18:04.40 | Cide | not quite |
| 18:04.40 | amro | Cide: paste me a line that implies raging on the OS? |
| 18:04.47 | Cide | I already did |
| 18:04.54 | Cide | it wasn't explicit but quite implicit |
| 18:05.03 | amro | it's only implicit if you're paranoid about windows hate |
| 18:05.12 | industrial | Cide: it's not in my advantage to steer the conversation away from this as it's what I agree with. I am right. |
| 18:05.13 | Kraps | what industrial said |
| 18:05.31 | Cide | amro, or if he agreed that I interpreted it correctly? :P |
| 18:05.31 | industrial | NEXT |
| 18:05.33 | Kraps | cide hates jews |
| 18:05.39 | amro | Cide: he didn't |
| 18:05.42 | Cide | oh okay |
| 18:05.43 | Cide | sec |
| 18:05.50 | Cide | <Cide> but yes, I would like you to not speak in generalizations about windows always |
| 18:05.50 | Cide | <industrial> ah well, I just can't :D |
| 18:05.52 | amro | he said it so you'd leave him alone |
| 18:05.56 | amro | read after that |
| 18:06.32 | Cide | "<industrial> still going, 1 minute of windows time left" <= "windows" time? -- also quite implicit |
| 18:06.48 | industrial | it's a concept |
| 18:06.56 | amro | that's after you pounced on the windows bit |
| 18:07.10 | Cide | <Cide> well he admitted that he made a generalization about windows |
| 18:07.10 | Cide | <industrial> and? |
| 18:07.11 | adys_ | windows time is like unix time, except it doesn't make sense |
| 18:07.12 | Cide | etc |
| 18:07.17 | amro | besides, "windows time" is even used by windows users |
| 18:07.26 | amro | so implying it means hate is just silly |
| 18:07.27 | Cide | never heard it before |
| 18:07.28 | industrial | I am a windows user. |
| 18:07.40 | Cide | uh huh |
| 18:07.48 | Cide | first and foremost or games only? |
| 18:07.55 | industrial | games only |
| 18:08.01 | Cide | so you're first and foremost a linux user |
| 18:08.04 | industrial | yes |
| 18:08.14 | amro | how's that relevant? |
| 18:08.18 | industrial | dunno |
| 18:08.24 | amro | you use prejudice in your judgements cide? |
| 18:08.26 | Cide | linux users tend to not prefer windows? |
| 18:08.30 | Cide | naturally |
| 18:08.38 | amro | yeah |
| 18:08.39 | nevcairiel | thats why they use linux |
| 18:08.40 | amro | im done |
| 18:08.40 | Cide | and I tend to use my past experience with industrial in my judgements of industrial |
| 18:08.40 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:08.42 | adys_ | you mean just like mumble users tend not to prefer skype? |
| 18:08.49 | Cide | adys_, kinda |
| 18:08.50 | adys_ | OH HE WENT THERE |
| 18:09.08 | adys_ | Using linux makes you more productive - it takes more effort to get games running |
| 18:09.21 | nevcairiel | good reasoning |
| 18:09.27 | adys_ | it worked for me |
| 18:09.35 | industrial | You guys go debate debating, I'll go eat food. |
| 18:09.43 | Cide | it worked for me too |
| 18:09.44 | amro | now, if someone could just make it hard to watch porn on windows... |
| 18:09.50 | amro | we'd have the biggest burst of productivity in history |
| 18:09.52 | Cide | or easy to use flash on linux |
| 18:09.54 | nevcairiel | windows makes me more productive, because on linux i always start fiddling with some configs and whatnot to get the system running better |
| 18:10.00 | adys_ | amro, watching porn is already making it hard |
| 18:10.03 | adys_ | OH HE WENT THERE TOO |
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| 18:10.11 | Cide | oh no you didn't |
| 18:10.16 | adys_ | oh yes i did. |
| 18:10.20 | adys_ | FOREHEAD. |
| 18:10.21 | Shirik | ummm |
| 18:10.23 | Shirik | nevcairiel help |
| 18:10.35 | adys_ | amro, and Cide wont get that joke because he's an ass |
| 18:10.36 | nevcairiel | what did you break now |
| 18:10.53 | amro | the vase on the third floor |
| 18:10.57 | amro | he's such a clumsy kid. |
| 18:11.20 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/142749 |
| 18:11.33 | nevcairiel | yes, so? |
| 18:11.35 | Shirik | I just wanted to revert to Release-5 |
| 18:11.50 | adys_ | Shirik, git reset --hard Release-5 |
| 18:11.55 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 18:12.21 | Shirik | what did checkout do? |
| 18:12.24 | nevcairiel | checkout on arbitrary points in time is just really good for testing that specific revision |
| 18:12.30 | adys_ | it moved you to Release-5, sort of |
| 18:12.31 | adys_ | but |
| 18:12.37 | nevcairiel | checkout doesnt modify the tree |
| 18:12.39 | Lopeppeppy | Gift wrap your cat for Xmas... http://laughingsquid.com/how-to-gift-wrap-a-cat/ |
| 18:12.40 | adys_ | Shirik, this happens when you already created a branch |
| 18:12.43 | nevcairiel | just your, well, checkout |
| 18:12.45 | amro | can't believe you didn't riff on that adys_ |
| 18:12.49 | amro | why so srs about gir |
| 18:12.51 | amro | git even |
| 18:12.52 | adys_ | which is done implicitly sometimes |
| 18:13.03 | adys_ | amro, riff on what? |
| 18:13.10 | amro | nevermind |
| 18:13.14 | adys_ | you fail :( |
| 18:13.21 | nevcairiel | i guess Release-5 is a tag, how do branches come in there? |
| 18:14.11 | amro | also, you managed to get git running on windows without cygwin? |
| 18:14.25 | nevcairiel | works better without cygwin imho |
| 18:14.36 | nevcairiel | cygwin breaks windows file permissions randomly |
| 18:14.37 | adys_ | Shirik, imagine you have three real life trees. the one in the middle is the master, the one you're on only you can see, and you want to jump to Release-5 |
| 18:14.40 | amro | I was offered a download in the 100s of megs |
| 18:15.07 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: awesome |
| 18:15.09 | amro | adys_: sounds like it's going to end with some crying and band-aids |
| 18:15.10 | nevcairiel | msysgit, its 11.7mb for 1.7.3.1 |
| 18:15.28 | amro | that's the mingw one |
| 18:15.30 | adys_ | Shirik, git checkout will jump on Release-5, but since only you can see your own tree (a2abb3f), you won't be able to get to it |
| 18:15.37 | adys_ | so you'll stay on your own tree |
| 18:15.42 | amro | mingw has the worst release distribution ever |
| 18:15.42 | adys_ | that's called detached HEAD |
| 18:15.45 | amro | I couldn't find anything |
| 18:16.22 | adys_ | Shirik, to move out of detached HEAD, you need to actually name your tree (git checkout -b new_branch_name), making it official and easily accessible |
| 18:16.27 | nevcairiel | you dont have to care about that, just go to the msysgit page, and get the pre-packaged installer |
| 18:16.48 | adys_ | or use git reset --hard Release-5 to tell git "my tree doesnt matter" |
| 18:17.17 | amro | nevcairiel: I couldn't find that either |
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| 18:17.26 | Shirik | wait |
| 18:17.27 | nevcairiel | honestly, then you're blind =) |
| 18:17.27 | amro | I already had cygwin so I just installed it from there |
| 18:17.29 | Shirik | that's not what I wanted to do either |
| 18:17.31 | Shirik | you guys suck |
| 18:17.35 | Shirik | fortunately everything's on my remote |
| 18:17.39 | nevcairiel | then you need to specify better! |
| 18:18.01 | amro | nevcairiel: no, it took me to the sourceforge page, which was ugly as fuck and horrible to navigate |
| 18:18.03 | adys_ | nevcairiel++, you fail at explaining your problem Shirik |
| 18:18.07 | dardack_ | is there a way to determine if an item is BoP? also is there an easy API call to determine if it can be equipped by current toon? |
| 18:18.18 | nevcairiel | amro: its hosted on google code, how did you end up on source forge o.O |
| 18:18.18 | adys_ | !api usable |
| 18:18.19 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'usable': PET_BAR_UPDATE_USABLE, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_USABLE, SPELL_UPDATE_USABLE, GetPetActionSlotUsable, IsUsableItem, IsUsableAction, ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_USABLE, IsUsableSpell, GetPetActionsUsable |
| 18:18.26 | adys_ | dardack, IsUsableItem |
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| 18:18.37 | adys_ | and for your first question, no, scan the tooltip for ITEM_BIND_ON_PICKUP |
| 18:18.40 | nevcairiel | google msysgit, first hit, downloads tab |
| 18:18.40 | amro | nevcairiel: from the mingw website |
| 18:18.42 | nevcairiel | tada! |
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| 18:18.46 | dardack_ | ahh usable i was looking euqipable |
| 18:18.51 | amro | "msysgit", magic word imo |
| 18:18.58 | amro | all I was looking for was "git" |
| 18:18.58 | dardack_ | and equipable returns true as long as it's armor, even it it's plate on druid |
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| 18:19.11 | nevcairiel | google "git windows", first hit, downloads tab |
| 18:19.12 | nevcairiel | tada! |
| 18:19.19 | adys_ | if IsUsableItem and IsEquippable ... |
| 18:19.33 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I wanted to temporarily go back to a revision |
| 18:19.37 | amro | wasn't the first result when I was installing it |
| 18:19.42 | amro | stop making assumptions >< |
| 18:19.50 | adys_ | dardack, when you scan the tooltip, make sure you scan the item:<id> tooltip, not the tooltip of the item you have equipped, otherwise you'll hit SOULBOUND |
| 18:20.02 | nevcairiel | my google is smarter then your google, clearly |
| 18:20.09 | nevcairiel | Shirik: then git checkout would've been fine |
| 18:20.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:20.17 | amro | or, that page didn't have the same rank back then |
| 18:20.24 | Shirik | I just saw that warning and was like "wait no branch that sounds really bad" |
| 18:20.29 | nevcairiel | but seriously, my google is probably trained by me |
| 18:20.34 | nevcairiel | cant really say "first hit" ever |
| 18:20.38 | nevcairiel | everyone gets different results :P |
| 18:20.54 | nevcairiel | Shirik: in that state, you just cant start making changes |
| 18:20.58 | nevcairiel | without creating a branch first |
| 18:21.06 | adys_ | Shirik, dont fuck with different branches than master unless you're working with actual branches |
| 18:21.12 | adys_ | which means |
| 18:21.13 | adys_ | before your work |
| 18:21.15 | Shirik | I am |
| 18:21.18 | adys_ | create a branch with git checkout -b |
| 18:21.22 | dardack_ | i can't find documentation in isusableitem, either my google is borked or i'm idiot, so i have to scan the tooltip, was hoping to avoid that |
| 18:21.23 | adys_ | and then you can start |
| 18:21.29 | adys_ | !api IsUsableItem |
| 18:21.29 | lua_bot | IsUsableItem: Returns whether an item can currently be used (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableItem) |
| 18:21.36 | adys_ | dardack_, documentation ^ |
| 18:21.41 | dardack_ | see |
| 18:22.24 | adys_ | dardack_, IsUsableItem basically tells you whether the item will be red or not if you have it in the inventory or whatever |
| 18:22.33 | dardack_ | so this will work on armor, so if this retturns nil and armor returns true, than the current toon can't use |
| 18:22.49 | adys_ | yup |
| 18:22.58 | dardack_ | but no quick api to determine soul bound |
| 18:23.06 | adys_ | not afaik |
| 18:23.11 | adys_ | unless |
| 18:23.12 | adys_ | !api bind |
| 18:23.12 | lua_bot | Found 34 possible matches for 'bind'. Please be more specific |
| 18:23.13 | nevcairiel | not even a slow api, you have to do it manually |
| 18:23.14 | adys_ | !api bound |
| 18:23.14 | lua_bot | Found 8 possible results for 'bound': Frame:GetBoundsRect, DUEL_OUTOFBOUNDS, GetSocketItemBoundTradeable, END_BOUND_TRADEABLE, DUEL_INBOUNDS, IsOutOfBounds, EndBoundTradeable, TogglePlayerBounds |
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| 18:23.39 | dardack_ | so bind a tooltip, and scan it for Bind on pickup? |
| 18:24.08 | adys_ | dardack, yes. you can only scan the first 4 lines, too; the bind will never be after that |
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| 18:24.27 | Maldivia | !api lines |
| 18:24.27 | lua_bot | Found 10 possible results for 'lines': GameTooltip:ClearLines, SKILL_LINES_CHANGED, file:lines, GameTooltip:NumLines, ScrollingMessageFrame:GetMaxLines, io.lines, ScrollingMessageFrame:SetMaxLines, ScrollingMessageFrame:GetNumLinesDisplayed, EditBox:SetHistoryLines, EditBox:GetHistoryLines |
| 18:24.42 | adys_ | i used to have a decent half-lib to scan tooltips |
| 18:24.42 | adys_ | but meh |
| 18:24.53 | dardack_ | !armor |
| 18:24.58 | adys_ | !api armor |
| 18:24.58 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'armor': UnitArmor, GetArmorPenetration |
| 18:25.00 | Maldivia | tooltip scanning is build into the api now |
| 18:25.05 | adys_ | it is? |
| 18:25.06 | dardack_ | it is? |
| 18:25.07 | nevcairiel | it is? |
| 18:25.14 | Maldivia | heh |
| 18:25.25 | Maldivia | 99% sure |
| 18:26.26 | Maldivia | or is it only stats? |
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| 18:26.32 | Maldivia | !api itemstat |
| 18:26.32 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'itemstat': GetItemStatDelta, GetItemStats, GetReforgeItemStats |
| 18:26.34 | adys_ | Id say it's only stats |
| 18:26.57 | Kraps | "I <3 harry potter...not as much as justin bieber...but i do love the movies and books just now" ⢠JBiebesSavedMe |
| 18:27.04 | nevcairiel | oh that |
| 18:27.08 | nevcairiel | thats only stats |
| 18:27.32 | Maldivia | so the only thing you can't detect using the api is if its bop? |
| 18:27.36 | Cide | and it's iffy at best as I understand it |
| 18:27.39 | dardack_ | so you can only scan 4 lines? |
| 18:27.52 | Maldivia | dardack: you only need to scan 4 lines to detect bop |
| 18:27.54 | Cide | you can scan thousands of lines |
| 18:27.54 | dardack_ | i don't have to do a max, like don't scan past 4 lines to save time? |
| 18:27.56 | nevcairiel | nah, you can scan all of them |
| 18:27.57 | adys_ | dardack_, thats not what i meant |
| 18:28.01 | dardack_ | ahh yea yea |
| 18:28.04 | dardack_ | just making sure |
| 18:28.05 | nevcairiel | but you only need 4 lines for your purpose |
| 18:28.07 | adys_ | dardack_, you can scan all the lines, but you only need to scan the first 4 for bop |
| 18:28.32 | nevcairiel | in what case is the binding info not on the second line, anyway? |
| 18:28.41 | adys_ | no |
| 18:28.53 | adys_ | Heroic, zone bind, subzone bind and glyph all come before bop |
| 18:29.13 | nevcairiel | oh right, heroic does, i have one of those |
| 18:29.20 | adys_ | but since theres no heroic glyphs with zone/subzone binds :p |
| 18:29.30 | adys_ | technically, charter details also come before |
| 18:29.34 | adys_ | but who gives a shit |
| 18:29.42 | adys_ | you can prolly just scan the first 3 and be safe |
| 18:30.27 | adys_ | Adys: stop being annoying and open up your ssh already :( |
| 18:31.21 | Maldivia | hehe... |
| 18:31.30 | adys_ | I'm going to be pissed off if i run out of money on my electricity counter the day before i get back or something |
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| 18:33.23 | Cide | owned |
| 18:36.17 | Fisker | omg Cide |
| 18:36.49 | amro | ~Fisker! |
| 18:36.50 | purl | hmm... fisker is like, the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire |
| 18:37.22 | amro | one step ahead of the average troll, on fire? is the average troll trying to put it out? |
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| 18:37.48 | Cide | wowace channel troll? |
| 18:38.09 | Cide | that's a bit discriminating against this channel |
| 18:38.19 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.37 | industrial | on fire |
| 18:38.41 | industrial | like, a flaming homo :D? |
| 18:42.28 | Kraps | ~cide |
| 18:42.29 | purl | [cide] the developer of the CT mods. He is also known for his bad temper |
| 18:42.35 | airtonix | no that there is anything wrong with homosexual trolls |
| 18:43.18 | Nobgul | ~Nobgul |
| 18:43.26 | Nobgul | cry |
| 18:43.40 | amro | purl: Nobgul is <reply>Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! |
| 18:43.40 | purl | okay, amro |
| 18:43.44 | amro | ~Nobgul |
| 18:43.44 | purl | Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! |
| 18:43.47 | amro | yeah. |
| 18:43.59 | Nobgul | lol |
| 18:44.27 | Nobgul | Better then nothing i guess |
| 18:46.07 | Lunessa | oh shit... one of the server admins for our online course delivery system quit today in a huff. |
| 18:46.23 | Nobgul | Is that good or bad? |
| 18:46.25 | adys_ | ~adys |
| 18:46.25 | purl | adys se fait habite en les etats unis |
| 18:46.33 | adys_ | wtf |
| 18:46.37 | adys_ | ~factinfo adys |
| 18:46.37 | purl | adys -- created by Shirik <~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik> at Sun Feb 7 07:17:46 2010 (277 days); it has been requested 3 times, last by adys_, 12s ago. |
| 18:46.47 | adys_ | Shirik what are you on |
| 18:46.53 | adys_ | whose genitals are you smoking |
| 18:46.58 | Lunessa | Well, I didn't like her, but I don't want to get stuck doing her work since they have no one to replace her. |
| 18:47.28 | Nobgul | Adys? whats wrong with it |
| 18:47.39 | Nobgul | Oh nvm i got it |
| 18:47.47 | Maldivia | Bibi, you broke your blue tracker :P |
| 18:47.58 | Bibi | hmmm. |
| 18:47.59 | Bibi | good point. |
| 18:48.02 | Bibi | hello Kaelten |
| 18:48.04 | Bibi | how are you? |
| 18:48.13 | Kaelten | Bibi: ? |
| 18:48.16 | Nobgul | Which blue tracker? |
| 18:48.49 | Maldivia | Nobgul: exactly :) |
| 18:49.14 | Kraps | Lunessa: what was the huff? |
| 18:49.32 | Nobgul | Lol. Mines working. Well the one i steal from =P |
| 18:49.45 | Lunessa | I'm not entirely sure, and no one wants to tell me. I just had to kill her computer access. |
| 18:49.54 | Maldivia | Nobgul: well, I was tell bibi, so guess which one I was refering to? |
| 18:50.11 | Kraps | she obviously hated you Lunessa |
| 18:50.31 | Nobgul | Maldivia: I dunno im lost. Out in left field somewhere |
| 18:50.45 | Cide | no indentation fixes though |
| 18:50.49 | Cide | grrrrrrrrrrrrr it annoys me to no end |
| 18:50.54 | Cide | I check it every time I load up mmoc |
| 18:51.00 | Kraps | OBVIOUSLY |
| 18:51.22 | Maldivia | Nobgul: well, it would the mmo champ one :) |
| 18:51.25 | Lunessa | Kraps: lulz. Probably. She was 'creepy and inappropriately flirtatious at work (read desperate for a man and hinting all the time). |
| 18:51.36 | Nobgul | Maldivia: Yer that would be the one i steal from =P |
| 18:51.39 | Kraps | durr |
| 18:52.06 | Nobgul | Steal is a harsh word. I borrow it =) |
| 18:52.12 | Cide | uh huh |
| 18:52.32 | Cide | just like frank abagnale borrowed money |
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| 18:53.09 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 18:53.16 | Maldivia | bibi: and for some reason, you always find the human male who looks like he really doesn't want to be shown wearing that gear :) |
| 18:53.18 | Lunessa | Cide: That's not all he borrowed. :) |
| 18:53.38 | Cide | he also borrowed my awesomeness |
| 18:53.41 | Cide | but that I got back |
| 18:53.52 | Bibi | Maldivia: the guy has been a dress up doll for almost 4 years |
| 18:53.55 | Bibi | can't really blame him. |
| 18:54.06 | Nobgul | Maldivia: My wife comments on them she wants to know why they always have to be nakid. I told her i don't know. |
| 18:54.31 | Maldivia | Bibi: yeah I know, but he looks really sad :) |
| 18:55.08 | Lunessa | Cide: Have you listened to any of his lectures/stories. That guy is hilarious. |
| 18:55.56 | Lopeppeppy | is creepy and inappropriate at work... 'cause she's in here... with you guys... |
| 18:56.15 | Cide | I listened to one lecture briefly |
| 18:56.24 | Cide | but I should look it up some more if he's a good lecturer |
| 18:56.31 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: s/at.*// |
| 18:57.35 | amro | Cide: I'll look you up some more |
| 18:58.24 | Cide | you should |
| 18:58.34 | amro | I just did. |
| 19:00.43 | Cide | you should again |
| 19:00.56 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:02.36 | Lulia | pushes Fisker off of a building. |
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| 19:03.42 | Fisker | why would you do that Lulia ? |
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| 19:04.40 | adys_ | Why the hell not |
| 19:05.10 | Kraps | sounds like fun, can i try? |
| 19:05.14 | Lunessa | Cide: He tells excellent stories. You'll be vastly entertained. |
| 19:05.41 | Kraps | pushes Fisker off of a building. |
| 19:05.48 | Kraps | weeeeeeeee |
| 19:05.51 | Lulia | hehehe |
| 19:06.04 | Lulia | drags Fisker back up with a rope to be pushed off again. |
| 19:06.06 | dardack_ | ok being dumb, and whatnot, i belive there is a way to format a print to choose a color for something based on something else, ie i have my table[4] = rarity, so based on the # in 4, want to color code the print, or do i have to make my own table with the font colors, and call the value from the table |
| 19:06.28 | Lulia | You just confused me, dardack |
| 19:07.18 | dardack_ | sigh i confused myself |
| 19:07.25 | Kraps | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/harrypotter?feature=ticker |
| 19:07.58 | Fisker | i won't Kraps |
| 19:08.13 | dardack_ | aand nevermind i'm saving the link , which has color already, sigh again being dumb |
| 19:08.21 | Kraps | you should Fisker |
| 19:09.12 | Fisker | i won't |
| 19:09.18 | Fisker | you broke my street |
| 19:10.44 | Kraps | i did? |
| 19:11.45 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_147_if-other-industries-were-as-evil-as-riaa/ |
| 19:14.36 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/google-nexus-s-is-the-samsung-gt-i9020/ <-omg? |
| 19:15.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't suppose anyone's used eclipse with the birt plugin & the jsonparser class? >.> |
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| 19:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, kitty pic finally made it to Twitter. |
| 19:26.07 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: They're cute. |
| 19:26.51 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 19:27.03 | dardack_ | i know most odn't use xml anymore, but i still do, in xml on a frontstring can i set text size there? or do i have to call it elsewhere? |
| 19:28.51 | Dagmar | Man, it's a shame there's no document that tells people exactly what XML elements have what attributes |
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| 19:33.52 | dardack_ | i know there is but <FontHeight val="12"/> doesn't seem to actually change the size, even if i change val to 50 |
| 19:34.38 | Fisker | moar jnwhiteh |
| 19:34.39 | Fisker | MOAR |
| 19:34.40 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/photos/this-is-the-nexus-s-1/#3562943 |
| 19:35.05 | syrae | Fisker: I thought you were asking jnwhiteh to moan for a sec there |
| 19:35.18 | Fisker | i am |
| 19:37.34 | dardack_ | ahh my bad i have to set the actual font not just inherit to get the size to work |
| 19:37.52 | syrae | http://i.imgur.com/G80Kj.gif |
| 19:39.13 | Napoleone | wow supports tf files? |
| 19:39.16 | Napoleone | ttf |
| 19:40.13 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 19:40.17 | durcyn | Napoleone: only for the past 6 years or so. |
| 19:40.20 | Napoleone | ;P |
| 19:43.01 | Shirik | Cide |
| 19:43.03 | Shirik | we need some SC2 games |
| 19:43.48 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:43.52 | Fisker | you need to buy a nexus s |
| 19:44.37 | durcyn | fisker did you get a galaxy tab yet |
| 19:49.52 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:49.55 | Fisker | imma get a nexus s |
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| 19:53.11 | Maldivia | hmm... looking at the tier 11 picture... is it just me, it is it not very stealthy for rogues to run around with flashlights under their heads? |
| 19:53.35 | Cide | Shirik, sure |
| 19:53.37 | Cide | later tonight |
| 19:53.50 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: they can turn that off in stealth! |
| 19:54.39 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: also, does the priest visor come with build in HUD? :) |
| 19:54.42 | nevcairiel | also, someone explain to me why my druid has 102 energy in cat form |
| 19:54.58 | Tuller | caffiene |
| 19:54.59 | Maldivia | 120 |
| 19:55.04 | nevcairiel | 102 |
| 19:55.07 | Maldivia | I have 120 |
| 19:55.23 | nevcairiel | i have 102 |
| 19:55.25 | nevcairiel | why <.< |
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| 19:55.59 | nevcairiel | is that increased by mastery or something? (even when not feral specced?) |
| 19:56.55 | nevcairiel | actually, i only have 102 in my healing gear |
| 19:56.58 | nevcairiel | not in moonkin |
| 19:57.03 | nevcairiel | (both have no mastery bonus) |
| 19:57.22 | nevcairiel | healing gear has the +2% max mana meta gem |
| 19:57.26 | nevcairiel | wonder if that counts for energy :P |
| 19:57.39 | nevcairiel | yeah thats it |
| 19:57.40 | nevcairiel | weird! |
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| 19:58.06 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: hmm, doesnt for me |
| 19:58.19 | Maldivia | and the 120 was with tiger's fury :) |
| 19:58.25 | nevcairiel | cheater! |
| 19:58.50 | nevcairiel | i dunno, when i equip my helmet with the ember skyflare diamond in it, i get 2 more energy |
| 19:59.19 | mikma | just my fucking luck |
| 19:59.33 | mikma | 1 achi from 310% mount missing |
| 19:59.41 | Maldivia | which ? |
| 19:59.59 | mikma | The orb whispered etc |
| 20:00.08 | mikma | whisperer*? |
| 20:00.25 | nevcairiel | you still have some more raiding weeks to go |
| 20:00.29 | Maldivia | we got that on the first kill :P |
| 20:01.44 | mikma | yeah |
| 20:01.56 | mikma | everyone, except me, gets it on first kill |
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| 20:02.16 | mikma | but, we will continue trying |
| 20:02.22 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 20:02.26 | Fisker | should i get a nexus s? |
| 20:02.33 | nevcairiel | sure, whatever |
| 20:02.37 | mikma | lol |
| 20:02.43 | mikma | hey nevcairiel |
| 20:02.49 | mikma | you like buttsecks? |
| 20:03.04 | olafski | who doesn't? |
| 20:03.05 | nevcairiel | well, that depends |
| 20:04.01 | nevcairiel | as long as its not my butt, rather one of a hot girl, then sure, why not! |
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| 20:04.16 | syrae | Lunessa: anothershoe, right? |
| 20:04.25 | Lunessa | Da. |
| 20:04.29 | mikma | exactly, who doesn't? |
| 20:04.38 | syrae | cool, cool. Just wanted to make sure I remembered. :) |
| 20:04.46 | Lunessa | *nod* :) |
| 20:05.23 | Fisker | i didn't know your dick had eyes, and could see in those conditions nevcairiel ;3 |
| 20:05.33 | syrae | Lunessa: I'm actually gonna be in your area later next month. I'll make sure to wave at you if nothing else. :) |
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| 20:05.36 | Lopeppeppy | I think it has a temperature sensor, Fisker. |
| 20:05.47 | Lunessa | Houston rules. |
| 20:05.49 | Lopeppeppy | No one ever comes to my area. *laugh* |
| 20:06.00 | olafski | glad to see we're on the same page nevcairiel |
| 20:06.06 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: that's what she said?... >_> |
| 20:06.08 | Lunessa | And as I tell all the regulars, give me a heads up and I'll buy you a beer. :) |
| 20:06.08 | mikma | anyone here watched the new family guy yet? |
| 20:06.39 | syrae | ducks and covers |
| 20:06.58 | olafski | I has |
| 20:07.13 | syrae | Lunessa: hehe. I'd be happy just to say hi in person. I'm not much o' a beer person. :P |
| 20:07.14 | olafski | unless there's something newer than last monday |
| 20:07.21 | mikma | wasn't the whole "dick pump" scene awesome? |
| 20:07.31 | olafski | hm |
| 20:07.46 | Lunessa | beer is a figurative thing. Substitute coffee or lunch as suits you. |
| 20:07.50 | syrae | hehe |
| 20:08.02 | mikma | almost as awesome as the "your siren sounds like" ... in the previous episode |
| 20:08.16 | syrae | I know I'm gonna be visiting College Station in late Dec, and I think we'll be making a trip to Houston and Austin, but I don't know what days. |
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| 20:08.26 | olafski | I don't remember mikma :( |
| 20:08.34 | olafski | it makes me laugh quite hard at times but I always forget all the jokes |
| 20:08.38 | olafski | except that awesome peter+anvil joke |
| 20:08.43 | syrae | Finally visiting all the TX folks I've been promising I'd visit. >_< |
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| 20:09.07 | mikma | olafski: you dont remember either? |
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| 20:09.35 | mikma | olafski: try youtube "family guy french siren" |
| 20:09.56 | Lunessa | College Station, Austin, Houston make a sort of squished triangle and are all within short-ish driving distance. |
| 20:10.14 | syrae | Lunessa: yup. |
| 20:10.27 | syrae | My friend lives in College Station, another friend lives in Houston |
| 20:10.44 | mikma | colgate state |
| 20:10.45 | syrae | And Austin has the movie thingy I want to check out |
| 20:10.52 | Lunessa | And I think some few folks here will attest to my lack of murderous dangerousness. |
| 20:11.05 | Dagmar | That can be fixed, you know. |
| 20:11.07 | Nobgul | Anyone good with php? |
| 20:11.08 | Lunessa | What 'movie thingy'? |
| 20:11.11 | syrae | Lunessa: hehe |
| 20:11.18 | syrae | Lunessa: the dinner and a movie theaters |
| 20:11.30 | Lunessa | Oh, they're here in Houston too. |
| 20:11.31 | olafski | yeah I do actually remember the dick pump scene :P |
| 20:11.44 | Lunessa | Alamo Draft House and Cinema. |
| 20:11.46 | syrae | Lunessa: There's none that I know of here in NorCal |
| 20:11.53 | syrae | Lunessa: yeah! That one! |
| 20:12.03 | Fisker | i just compared CoD: Black Ops to an iPhone |
| 20:12.11 | Lunessa | Yeah, I live less than five miles from one. |
| 20:12.53 | syrae | Lunessa: cool. I definitely want to go to one. Just to see how they have it set up |
| 20:13.11 | Lunessa | Then I won't spoil it for you. :P |
| 20:13.19 | syrae | I actually considered opening my own version of the dinner and a movie, but I have no start up cash. >_< |
| 20:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | I will say that Lunessa has the Peppy Seal of Approval. |
| 20:13.48 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: ahhh, but who approves that you aren't crazy and in on it, too? |
| 20:14.04 | Fisker | don't you get it Lopeppeppy ? |
| 20:14.25 | Nobgul | Anyone php halp? |
| 20:15.05 | Nobgul | it's wow related if that peaks your interest =P |
| 20:15.38 | syrae | Lunessa: I may poke you next month, then. Possibly from my other nick in this channel, pantsninja. (Because that nick is AWESOME and is my home acct) |
| 20:16.03 | Lunessa | that is an awesome nick. |
| 20:16.13 | syrae | I know! |
| 20:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I don't, that's often one of my problems. *weg* |
| 20:16.14 | syrae | :) |
| 20:16.38 | Lopeppeppy | syrae, we all know I'm deranged, that's a given. I'm a gnome, it's the radiation exposure. But I'm an okay-deranged-psychopath. I apologize a lot. |
| 20:16.49 | Fisker | you should get it Lopeppeppy |
| 20:17.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm working on that for Christmas, Fisker, trust me. |
| 20:17.14 | Lunessa | I apologize for any inconvenience my murderous rampage may have caused. |
| 20:17.16 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: hehe |
| 20:17.24 | syrae | One of my favorite emotes |
| 20:17.28 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, Lunessa! |
| 20:17.30 | Maldivia | Nobgul: you could try to just ask the question, and if noone answers, then either they don't want to or don't know :) |
| 20:17.48 | syrae | I also like, "Do gnomes have a vibrate setting?" |
| 20:17.48 | Lunessa | Seerah does that one really well. She sounds almost exactly like the emote. |
| 20:17.50 | syrae | >_> |
| 20:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah is made of awesome. |
| 20:19.29 | Lunessa | PHP is the Devil's work. |
| 20:19.58 | dardack_ | ok parsing through tooltip, i only want to test for armor, not weapons, so 1. does that mean i only still have to check 4 lines, or do i need 5, 2. are the words i'm checking for: Main hand, one-hand, Off Hand, two-hand ? |
| 20:20.03 | dardack_ | or am i forgetting something |
| 20:22.27 | Napoleone | no api for how many buffs active on a unit? |
| 20:23.42 | Maldivia | Napoleone: loop through with unitbuff, when it returns nil, you're at the end |
| 20:23.49 | Napoleone | ye |
| 20:23.58 | Maldivia | well, UnitAura actually |
| 20:24.03 | Napoleone | hmm time to make a counter function then ;P |
| 20:24.23 | Maldivia | what do you need it for? |
| 20:24.30 | syrae | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/788896-Gamon-strikes-back!?p=9393714 |
| 20:24.41 | Lunessa | dardack: Polearm |
| 20:25.05 | zenzelezz | syrae: hah |
| 20:25.31 | Kraps | what the fuck? http://www.timecube.com/ |
| 20:26.54 | olafski | awesome syrae :D |
| 20:27.07 | Maldivia | Kraps: found yourself a new belief system? |
| 20:27.14 | industrial | "YOU CAN"T KILL ME FOR I AM 82+CANCER" |
| 20:27.17 | industrial | Kraps: ^ ??? |
| 20:28.10 | Lopeppeppy | You no take candle. *yawn* |
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| 20:28.44 | syrae | Kraps: <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9"> |
| 20:28.45 | syrae | Hahaha |
| 20:28.50 | olafski | hum I got stuck on top of a building in dalaran |
| 20:28.54 | olafski | never seen that before oO |
| 20:29.14 | Kraps | Maldivia: i would, if i could figure out wtf he was saying |
| 20:29.26 | Fisker | talk to me Kraps |
| 20:29.41 | Kraps | "My Cubic Wisdom debunks 1 sex gods." |
| 20:30.28 | syrae | Honestly, reading the source for that page is a bigger WTF for me than the actual text. |
| 20:30.35 | syrae | What does that say about me, I wonder? |
| 20:31.06 | syrae | "Dr Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human, depicted in image above" |
| 20:31.07 | olafski | that you're about 15 years late? |
| 20:32.27 | Cairenn | http://www.tv.com/smartypants/ |
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| 20:32.50 | nightcracker | yo |
| 20:33.40 | Kraps | Cairenn: abby sciuto ftw |
| 20:33.47 | Cairenn | indeed! |
| 20:34.09 | Cairenn | although Brennan is pretty awesome too |
| 20:35.03 | Lopeppeppy | She is. She's come a long way toward installing a filter for her mouth. *grin* |
| 20:35.11 | Cairenn | heheheh |
| 20:35.16 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 20:35.27 | Cairenn | But yeah, Abby just f'ing rocks! |
| 20:35.38 | Nobgul | Kraps: I agree |
| 20:35.39 | Lopeppeppy | I want Abby's hair. *le sigh* |
| 20:35.50 | Nobgul | I want Abby P |
| 20:35.56 | Nobgul | =P* |
| 20:36.12 | zenzelezz | meh, she''s not all that interesting |
| 20:36.20 | Cairenn | heathen |
| 20:36.53 | olafski | peggy olson definitely |
| 20:37.13 | olafski | but only because she has a cool boss |
| 20:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, zenzelezz... *pat pat* |
| 20:37.38 | Kraps | lol @ Sheldon Cooper: "Heâs a theoretical physicist who plays Klingon Boggle in his spare time. Need we say more?" |
| 20:38.50 | Lunessa | mmmmm... Abby. |
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| 20:39.38 | Nob-afk | 0_o |
| 20:39.43 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube |
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| 20:40.57 | Nobgul | Cairenn: Has the process of getting a new hostmask gotten easier? |
| 20:41.40 | Cairenn | it's never been particularly hard - tell me what you want (remembering that it must start with @WoWUIDev/ and then I get it applied for you |
| 20:42.01 | bleeter | oO Cairenn's giving people what they want?! |
| 20:42.10 | bleeter | :P |
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| 20:42.17 | Nobgul | Cairenn: I did 2 months ago >< |
| 20:42.25 | bleeter | haha |
| 20:42.36 | Cairenn | Nobgul: then shame on me, I obviously forgot about it, and shame on you for not reminding me :p |
| 20:42.41 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 20:43.00 | Nobgul | More pressing issues to deal with like. Where is my taco's at that i ordered a hour ago >< |
| 20:43.16 | Maldivia | personally, never been a big fan of spoofed hostnames :p |
| 20:43.34 | Nobgul | I could run a bnc on my server but it's just to much work |
| 20:43.53 | Maldivia | screen+irssi works wonders |
| 20:44.04 | bleeter | I tend to use my hostmask as an 'advert' more than anything |
| 20:44.30 | Maldivia | bleeter: well, you dont need a spoof for that :P |
| 20:45.37 | Cairenn | there are all kinds of reasons for using a hostmask, none of them are invalid |
| 20:46.17 | bleeter | Fisker is invalid. |
| 20:46.52 | zenzelezz | http://www.27bslash6.com/reddit.html |
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| 20:47.42 | Nobgul | ~Nobgul |
| 20:47.42 | purl | Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! |
| 20:47.44 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 20:48.07 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 20:48.07 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 20:48.20 | Maldivia | ~emulate maldivia |
| 20:48.21 | Dagmar | When did Amarande get /say rights on purl? |
| 20:48.45 | bleeter | zenzelezz: I see it's crashed his web server again haha |
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| 20:49.48 | zenzelezz | bleeter: yeah |
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| 20:54.40 | Nobgul | http://www.27bslash6.com/grubby.html <----- |
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| 20:58.28 | bleeter | zenzelezz: heh, he owes me a book. thanks for that heads up. I've just forwarded my query from September saying 'wtf is my book?' haha |
| 20:58.41 | bleeter | his claim that he waits for people to contact is a bit dubious |
| 20:59.27 | zenzelezz | *if* what he writes on the reddit piece is correct, then it makes sense to me (the way I read it they didn't get enough data to see whose books hadn't been sent)... but hard to tell if that's the case |
| 20:59.34 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you, Nobgul, I needed some sharkopathic pictures in my afternoon! |
| 21:00.02 | Nobgul | That website is great! |
| 21:00.10 | zenzelezz | yeah, he's great |
| 21:00.45 | zenzelezz | I loved the pie chart one |
| 21:00.55 | nicoli_s | every time i see nobgul, i think of the famous warcraft2 hacker yobguls |
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| 21:01.38 | Nobgul | Hides |
| 21:01.45 | Dagmar | Mchl: Yeah well, while I'm personally all *for* the idea of regularly punishing the critically stupid, I don't think NOtch would sell many copies of the game if it ran by the rules *I* personally find amusing. |
| 21:02.50 | zenzelezz | looks around for Mchl |
| 21:02.55 | Dagmar | Yeah, wrong channel |
| 21:03.05 | Dagmar | I got all excited by the prospect of stupid children crying |
| 21:03.06 | zenzelezz | pity, it sounded interesting |
| 21:03.40 | Dagmar | We were discussing whether or not it would be a good idea for the monsters in minecraft, when they burst into flames from the morning sun, whether those flames should be able to spread to children's precious eyesore homes of wood |
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| 21:04.28 | Nobgul | LOl the pie chat one is great lol |
| 21:04.31 | Dagmar | If you've ever seen something in Minecraft catch fire, you would know that in the Minecraft world, trees don't have any sap. They apparently fuel themselves with a mixture of tar and white kerosene. |
| 21:04.56 | Dagmar | An entire three bedroom ranch house can burn to the ground in about 40 seconds. |
| 21:05.02 | Dagmar | *WHOOSH* |
| 21:05.09 | RJohn | agreed |
| 21:05.14 | Dagmar | Yet people still build out of wood. |
| 21:05.16 | nicoli_s | sounds like someont has been getting in arson practice |
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| 21:05.39 | Dagmar | Nope. Just watching slow children at play |
| 21:06.10 | Dagmar | One night from far across the map I heard one of them talking about cutting a gap in part of their tree farm so they could burn down just the one tree |
| 21:06.32 | Jamash | uh oh |
| 21:06.34 | Dagmar | I had to hoof it with buckets and shovels to keep it from escalating to the point where it was going to crash the server |
| 21:06.40 | Nobgul | This is why I never get work done on my addon's. Once a hour someone links a website and i spend 3 checking it out and laughing =P |
| 21:06.46 | Jamash | lewl |
| 21:06.57 | Cairenn | http://www.unicorncity.com/ |
| 21:07.19 | Nobgul | Cairenn: Is that u on the left there? |
| 21:07.41 | Cairenn | no, I'm not a guy |
| 21:07.45 | Dagmar | Here's an excellent example... "decent" structural design... very poor advance planning and scientific method http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs |
| 21:07.55 | Nobgul | There is a redhead girl, and i know your not a guy lol |
| 21:08.08 | Cairenn | Well, the person on the left is a guy |
| 21:08.19 | Cairenn | and no, that's not me, I'm not that hot |
| 21:08.26 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 21:08.26 | Dagmar | That looks disturbingly like Quest For The Egg Salad |
| 21:08.47 | Cairenn | (re the redhead female) |
| 21:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a redhead... but not that one. |
| 21:09.00 | Nobgul | Hehe |
| 21:09.02 | Jamash | anyone is hot when they're on fire |
| 21:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | There's a picture of me and Cairenn, but I don't look anything like that anymore. Which is both awesome and weird. |
| 21:09.48 | Nobgul | Well where is the picture? I am sure it's better then the logo on the facebook =P |
| 21:09.51 | Cairenn | Speaking of which, Lopeppeppy, we needs an updated pic! nod nod |
| 21:10.26 | Nobgul | Lol great video. The guy burnt down the house. His commentary is better then the videop |
| 21:10.35 | Lopeppeppy | My facebook pictures are awesome! Bun Bun kicks ass. |
| 21:11.14 | Nobgul | I don't understand what happened. Duh you lit a fire in a wood house =P |
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| 21:11.46 | Dagmar | Nobgul: Yeah, if he'd made the fireplace base just one square wider in each direction, it would have been much less amusing. |
| 21:12.31 | Nobgul | Dagmar: I tried to play minecraft last night. Didn't get into it. All i could do was break things. |
| 21:12.53 | Dagmar | Well, mainly that's how you get raw materials. |
| 21:12.58 | Dagmar | Punching trees and stuff. |
| 21:13.00 | industrial | Cairenn: looool |
| 21:13.04 | Dagmar | Everyone's a little bit like Chuck Norris |
| 21:13.33 | industrial | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ04mfAY2BU |
| 21:13.34 | Nobgul | Hehe. I will give it a go later on, once my icc 25 heroic falls apart because no one can agree on boss strategy's |
| 21:13.44 | Dagmar | You make a boat... no oars. You just row faster than a Yale rowing team with your bare hands |
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| 21:14.11 | Dagmar | You *punch* down trees, and if you've got some time to kill, you can even punch your way through solid rock |
| 21:14.56 | Jamash | FISTS OF STEEL |
| 21:15.00 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 21:15.04 | Cairenn | industrial: heh, seen that one before |
| 21:15.35 | Lunessa | everyone's seen that one before. |
| 21:15.41 | Jamash | ^ |
| 21:15.42 | Dagmar | More than once I've seen people complain that if they've got coal, they shouldnt' have to keep digging for diamonds--they should just be able to crush it with their bare hands. |
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| 21:16.27 | syrae | Dagmar: great... now I have that one scene from Superman in my head |
| 21:16.29 | syrae | thanks |
| 21:16.35 | Dagmar | heheh |
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| 21:18.45 | Jamash | does bizarro crush diamonds into coal? |
| 21:19.01 | Dagmar | Actually I think he presses them into Justin Beiber albums |
| 21:19.29 | bleeter | zenzelezz: I emailed him back in September asking 'wtf is my book'. So I dunno how he can say he's waiting to hear from those who are waiting |
| 21:20.49 | Nobgul | Must stop reading website and go back to work! |
| 21:21.13 | Lopeppeppy | zug zug |
| 21:22.09 | olafski | :D |
| 21:22.26 | olafski | I like the "obvious foggot" one too nobgul :P |
| 21:25.31 | Fisker | i just farted olafski |
| 21:26.28 | Nobgul | olafski: Yer that was a good one as well. |
| 21:26.36 | Nobgul | Fisker: Have you gotten that looked at yet? |
| 21:26.52 | Lopeppeppy | kiss kiss, everypeople, I'm going to go home and torture the cats a bit! |
| 21:27.02 | Nobgul | lol |
| 21:28.12 | olafski | a bit unbelievable at times, these stories.. but entertaining |
| 21:29.13 | cogwheel | ~lart youtube |
| 21:29.13 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on youtube and turns youtube into a brick |
| 21:30.15 | cogwheel | nonono... youtube is already a brick. that's why i'm larting it... |
| 21:30.46 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 21:30.46 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/this-is-the-nexus-s/ |
| 21:31.18 | Jamash | wow, a picture of a phone |
| 21:31.23 | Jamash | exciting |
| 21:31.28 | cogwheel | this is the sound of me caring: |
| 21:31.34 | nightcracker | wait |
| 21:31.37 | nightcracker | i dont hear a thing |
| 21:31.44 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 21:31.44 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 21:31.45 | cogwheel | nowai! |
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| 21:37.45 | jnwhiteh | anyone familiar with how to do perspective projection with affline transformations? |
| 21:37.59 | cbreak | uhm... |
| 21:38.04 | cbreak | you can't do that |
| 21:38.13 | cbreak | perspective projection is not affine |
| 21:38.29 | jnwhiteh | okay, so how would you apply perspective to a given image? |
| 21:38.32 | cbreak | affine are rotations, scaling, translating |
| 21:38.38 | jnwhiteh | any pointers would be useful :P |
| 21:38.44 | cbreak | an image? images are 2d |
| 21:38.47 | foxlit | ^ |
| 21:38.58 | cbreak | you'd have to use some kind of stereo algorithm |
| 21:38.59 | cbreak | there are a few |
| 21:39.07 | cbreak | but they all have drawbacks |
| 21:39.14 | jnwhiteh | I'm looking here: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/distorts/#perspective |
| 21:39.21 | foxlit | What do you actually want to achieve, though? |
| 21:39.25 | jnwhiteh | I have an arrow |
| 21:39.28 | cbreak | one of my coleagues does research on the topic, but it's expensive to do 2d to 3d transformation |
| 21:39.30 | jnwhiteh | I want to apply a bit of perspective to it |
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| 21:39.53 | jnwhiteh | I have an arrow I'd like to use for the new TomTom arrow |
| 21:39.55 | cbreak | that's something else |
| 21:40.01 | cbreak | not perspective projection :) |
| 21:40.04 | jnwhiteh | but I need to have the rotated versions, and want just a tad bit of perspective |
| 21:40.07 | jnwhiteh | ah, my mistake then |
| 21:40.56 | jnwhiteh | but I'm fairly certain this isn't going to work right anyway |
| 21:41.00 | cbreak | jnwhiteh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-point_perspective#Three-point_perspective |
| 21:41.16 | cbreak | perspective projection is creating a 2d image from 3d data :) |
| 21:41.23 | cbreak | (like OpenGL does, for example) |
| 21:41.23 | jnwhiteh | oh okay. |
| 21:41.40 | cbreak | the wiki article above describes a certain style of perspective in art |
| 21:41.54 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 21:41.56 | Fisker | did you see it? |
| 21:41.57 | cbreak | you can warp an image to move one of those points |
| 21:42.02 | jnwhiteh | it won't work either way with this image without me coming up with a lot of other stuff. |
| 21:42.02 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/269fadd2a175854da2bb68e047c64a77.png |
| 21:42.10 | jnwhiteh | since the other side of the arrows isn't drawn |
| 21:42.18 | jnwhiteh | the one I have now is a model that was rasterized, I think. |
| 21:42.39 | jnwhiteh | and I'm graphics stupid :P |
| 21:42.40 | cbreak | jnwhiteh: there are some tricks :) |
| 21:42.55 | cbreak | an other coleague of me had a siggraph paper on stereo warping |
| 21:42.57 | jnwhiteh | the one I want to use is row 2, column 2 in the blue |
| 21:43.15 | cbreak | it used scene saliency to change perspective properties in stereo pairs |
| 21:43.32 | cbreak | but that won't work with this type of image |
| 21:43.33 | jnwhiteh | sounds cool! |
| 21:43.33 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 21:43.41 | jnwhiteh | I'm pretty lost with this kind of image, and doing much of anything |
| 21:43.43 | jnwhiteh | but I'll cope :P |
| 21:43.57 | cbreak | what you could do is just treat it as bilboard |
| 21:44.00 | cbreak | and project that on a plane |
| 21:44.09 | cbreak | very primitive, but might be enough |
| 21:44.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm fairly sure I have no idea how to do any of that :P |
| 21:44.40 | Fisker | jnwhiteh hates me :( |
| 21:44.47 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no, you're just not saying anything =) |
| 21:44.48 | cbreak | imagine a rectangle with the arrow image on it |
| 21:44.57 | jnwhiteh | the adults are talking! |
| 21:44.58 | Fisker | i am |
| 21:45.01 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: okay |
| 21:45.01 | nightcracker | damn blizzard just give us m2's back |
| 21:45.11 | cbreak | if you want the arrow to point not parallel to the viewer but to the back a bit, you can just shrink the left side |
| 21:45.17 | Jamash | wait, you can't use models anymore? |
| 21:45.20 | jnwhiteh | nightcracker: don't we still have them? |
| 21:45.28 | nightcracker | you can, but you can't use your own anymore |
| 21:45.31 | cbreak | so that it's no longer a rectangle but a trapezoid |
| 21:45.31 | Jamash | oh |
| 21:45.34 | jnwhiteh | Oh, weird. |
| 21:45.49 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: okay, makes sense |
| 21:45.49 | nightcracker | you can't just put your m2 file in your addon folder and load it |
| 21:46.05 | nightcracker | your limited to blizzard's models |
| 21:46.07 | cbreak | jnwhiteh: it simulates the effect of perspective shortening |
| 21:46.11 | jnwhiteh | blarg |
| 21:46.20 | jnwhiteh | maybe I can use their POI model on the minimap |
| 21:46.22 | cbreak | (things far away are smaller :) |
| 21:46.30 | nightcracker | otherwise you could design a 3d model jnwhiteh and load it directly into tomtom ;) |
| 21:46.40 | jnwhiteh | nightcracker: I couldn't =) |
| 21:46.51 | jnwhiteh | You don't seem to realize how graphics stupid i am :P |
| 21:47.01 | nightcracker | jnwhiteh: i bet you have some friend who is willing to do it |
| 21:47.06 | Fisker | but jnwhiteh http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/this-is-the-nexus-s/ :( |
| 21:47.10 | cbreak | graphics programming is the most fun programming :) |
| 21:47.15 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: yeah I'm not sure how I feel about it |
| 21:47.18 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: I've always been fascinated |
| 21:47.22 | jnwhiteh | but never had a chance ot take any courses. |
| 21:47.23 | nightcracker | and btw if im not wrong the original tomtom arrow used a m2 right? |
| 21:47.52 | jnwhiteh | the crazy arrow has always been the same as cart |
| 21:47.57 | jnwhiteh | and mapnotes, where it came from initially |
| 21:48.03 | jnwhiteh | the minimap arrow DID use Blizzard's m2 |
| 21:48.04 | Fisker | i hate the back jnwhiteh |
| 21:48.19 | Fisker | and i hope it still has noise cancelling tech |
| 21:48.51 | nightcracker | i mean the crazy arrow |
| 21:49.01 | jnwhiteh | nightcracker: no, it was always images |
| 21:49.07 | jnwhiteh | someone made a model, and rasterized it |
| 21:49.12 | nightcracker | sec lemme find outdated version |
| 21:49.15 | nightcracker | ahh |
| 21:49.17 | jnwhiteh | in different degrees of rotation |
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| 21:49.22 | nightcracker | i saw the m2 some time back |
| 21:49.37 | jnwhiteh | that was one someone made for me |
| 21:49.38 | nightcracker | and thought it was used directly in m3 |
| 21:49.38 | jnwhiteh | its still there |
| 21:49.41 | jnwhiteh | wasn't quite right |
| 21:49.42 | nightcracker | m2* |
| 21:49.50 | nightcracker | that explains a lot |
| 21:50.06 | olafski | hm. first 400k xp for lvl 81 done =) |
| 21:50.09 | nightcracker | well, if blizzard would let us use our own custom m2 you could've just loaded that one |
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| 21:50.30 | jnwhiteh | again, it wasn't right.. the lighting was ridiculously flat |
| 21:50.30 | cbreak | jnwhiteh: by the way, the operation I described above, you can do it within blizzard's perspective mapping :) |
| 21:50.32 | jnwhiteh | but it worked |
| 21:50.57 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: but it doesn't get around that the left-bottom of the image is there, and there isn't any on the other side of the arrow |
| 21:51.13 | cbreak | you can model i |
| 21:51.18 | cbreak | model something |
| 21:51.28 | nightcracker | jnwhiteh i might have something that might interest you |
| 21:51.43 | nightcracker | sec finding old code |
| 21:52.05 | cbreak | hmm... that'd be terribly inefficient, but you could do it like apple's QuickTime VR |
| 21:52.23 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: way over my head =) |
| 21:52.36 | cbreak | do you have quicktime installed? |
| 21:52.37 | syrae | awesome headline http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40135089/ns/us_news-weird_news/ |
| 21:52.59 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: yes |
| 21:53.11 | cbreak | http://www.diamondimages.com/object_movies.html |
| 21:53.27 | cbreak | easy to understand technique :) |
| 21:53.32 | cbreak | it's like a primitive lightfield |
| 21:53.35 | cbreak | just without the math :D |
| 21:54.17 | nightcracker | dang |
| 21:54.24 | nightcracker | sorry jnwhiteh i dont have the code online |
| 21:54.30 | nightcracker | its on my old cpu |
| 21:57.58 | nightcracker | it was an alternative to the coordinates lib (forgot name atm) |
| 21:58.15 | nightcracker | it could render waypoints in a avr-kind of way, but then as a compass |
| 22:00.23 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 22:00.42 | DarthAndroid_ | you can load custom models |
| 22:00.46 | nightcracker | once i have my old cpu fixed ill get the code for you and send it, nps |
| 22:00.53 | nightcracker | @DA ?????? |
| 22:01.12 | DarthAndroid_ | CreateFrame("Model"):SetModel("Interface\\AddOns\\YourAddon\\Yourmodel.mdx") |
| 22:01.37 | nightcracker | Last time i checked it didn't work. |
| 22:02.04 | nightcracker | And the last time I checked was when AmbientAuras broke and I tried to fix it |
| 22:02.15 | nightcracker | so somewhere 3.x |
| 22:02.49 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 22:03.22 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 22:03.35 | Cide | wanna play some sc2? |
| 22:03.55 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 22:04.01 | jnwhiteh | apparently the POI arrow isn't a model anymore. |
| 22:04.30 | jnwhiteh | there goes that option :P |
| 22:04.47 | olafski | can I find how much xp the levels from 80 to 85 take anywhere? don't see it on wowwiki nor on wowpaedia |
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| 22:07.11 | Cide | olafski, that's because they cannot be represented as 64-bit integers |
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| 22:07.19 | Cide | so they thought it better to just let it slide |
| 22:07.26 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 22:07.30 | nightcracker | back |
| 22:08.21 | Cide | Shirikkkk |
| 22:08.33 | Shirik | Cide, give me a bit I'm still at school |
| 22:08.36 | Shirik | but yes please |
| 22:08.41 | Cide | sure |
| 22:08.45 | Cide | let me know |
| 22:09.34 | Shirik | we're going home now |
| 22:09.56 | Cide | adys: hi |
| 22:10.26 | olafski | sounds good cide :-) |
| 22:11.15 | jnwhiteh | anyone ever used meshlab? |
| 22:11.15 | Cide | Adys: adys_: hi |
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| 22:11.48 | nightcracker | back |
| 22:12.18 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 22:12.20 | jnwhiteh | i have a model of a duck |
| 22:12.22 | jnwhiteh | that comes with Meshlab |
| 22:12.24 | jnwhiteh | I should just use this |
| 22:12.26 | Fisker | yay |
| 22:12.28 | jnwhiteh | and have a duck pointing in the right direction |
| 22:12.30 | Fisker | i has 4p t10 |
| 22:12.35 | Fisker | hc of course etc. |
| 22:14.37 | Cide | jnwhiteh, that would be hilarious |
| 22:14.41 | jnwhiteh | Cide: :P |
| 22:14.54 | Arrowmaster | what kinda duck? |
| 22:14.59 | Arrowmaster | rubber ducky? |
| 22:15.05 | Arrowmaster | because that would be awesome |
| 22:15.06 | Cide | too bad they borked AVR |
| 22:15.11 | jnwhiteh | yes, rubby duckie. |
| 22:15.13 | jnwhiteh | rubber |
| 22:15.18 | Cide | otherwise you could have the duck appear in the game world |
| 22:15.21 | Fisker | omg |
| 22:15.23 | Fisker | OMG |
| 22:15.24 | Cide | and lure the player to its posiion |
| 22:15.26 | Cide | position |
| 22:15.31 | Cide | not really but one can dream |
| 22:15.44 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: why isnt your bot dealing with the spammer? |
| 22:15.54 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/fiskerdin/feed |
| 22:15.55 | Shirik | The first reason is that he's not here |
| 22:16.07 | Cide | EDI is a he? |
| 22:16.14 | Shirik | The second reason is it's more complex than that :) |
| 22:16.18 | Shirik | I think it would have allowed that anyway |
| 22:16.18 | jnwhiteh | Cide: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a21b426860dcc6f9f687d31d863a8a89.png |
| 22:16.22 | Shirik | nto sure |
| 22:16.24 | Shirik | not* |
| 22:16.38 | Jamash | grats fisker |
| 22:16.38 | Cide | epic |
| 22:16.42 | foxlit | Let me guess, Fisker. |
| 22:16.44 | foxlit | You're on a horse? |
| 22:16.50 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if I could use a raytracer |
| 22:16.53 | jnwhiteh | I'd still have to make the arrow =/ |
| 22:16.56 | jnwhiteh | I quit. |
| 22:17.16 | Fisker | i'm on a high horse foxlit |
| 22:17.45 | jnwhiteh | anyone eu sc2? |
| 22:17.54 | jnwhiteh | I can help move you down to a lower bracket! |
| 22:18.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 22:19.26 | foxlit | You can't, though :P |
| 22:19.49 | foxlit | Ratings are team-based, you'd do nothing for my random team misery :( |
| 22:20.04 | nightcracker | what program(s) do you guys use for models? |
| 22:20.19 | Cide | uml |
| 22:20.20 | jnwhiteh | nightcracker: that was MeshLab |
| 22:20.22 | Cide | take your pick |
| 22:20.31 | nightcracker | Someone recommended me blender |
| 22:20.39 | nightcracker | any second opinions? |
| 22:20.50 | nightcracker | I like the fact that it's GPL |
| 22:20.51 | Cide | I don't think the freeware ones have much against the commercial variants |
| 22:21.21 | Cide | if you're a student I know autodesk offers student versions of maya and 3ds max for free (with restrictions I'm sure, I haven't investigated) |
| 22:21.35 | bleeter | slaps Fisker with [Invincible's Reins] |
| 22:22.06 | Nob-AFK | gratz Fisker |
| 22:22.17 | nightcracker | but no one here used blender? |
| 22:22.24 | Fisker | hey bleeter |
| 22:24.00 | nightcracker | this was made using blender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ |
| 22:24.43 | bleeter | nightcracker: I suspect it's a lot like 'Photoshop or GIMP'. Depends on what you plan to do and how well you know both products. |
| 22:25.06 | Nob-AFK | great movie btw |
| 22:25.10 | nightcracker | ya i guess |
| 22:25.15 | Arrowmaster | blender would be the best of the free choices though, just like gimp |
| 22:26.09 | nightcracker | well about the gimpvphotoshop, i suck with both but there wasn't a thing i couldn't do in the gimp that i could in photoshop |
| 22:26.22 | Cide | well you can always hand-draw your triangles |
| 22:26.25 | bleeter | Arrowmaster: for sure. don't forget inkscape too ;) |
| 22:26.40 | Cide | doability and practicality are often very distinct |
| 22:26.58 | Cide | but blender is probably fine for most stuff |
| 22:27.14 | Cide | haven't used it though so my experience is limited |
| 22:31.18 | Lunessa | That didn't take long: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/11/microsoft-not-amused-by-open-source-kinect-drivers.ars |
| 22:32.05 | foxlit | wtb canonical URLs from wowi |
| 22:33.07 | cbreak | not amused? Tough luck :) |
| 22:33.22 | cbreak | those kinect things look great for reserach |
| 22:33.36 | foxlit | http://www.go-hero.net/box/urls.png << most of those are the same page; google should really not be spidering a heckload of different aliases. |
| 22:34.51 | amro | "not amused" <- I assume that means chairs were thrown |
| 22:36.41 | Cide | way to go skype in the druggie advertising |
| 22:37.11 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/skype.JPG |
| 22:38.04 | Gnarfoz | hnmmmm |
| 22:38.12 | Gnarfoz | I hate debugging taint |
| 22:38.13 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 22:38.45 | Gnarfoz | it's being attributed to an addon that doesn't call what taintlog claims is tainted |
| 22:39.42 | bleeter | Fisker: 'HottieHamsters' *cough* orly? |
| 22:44.29 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: are you playing with glyphs by any chance? |
| 22:47.11 | jnwhiteh | I just got STOMPED by protoss |
| 22:47.19 | jnwhiteh | rushed =( |
| 22:48.16 | bleeter | :( |
| 22:49.09 | jnwhiteh | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/642175/SC2Replays/Blistering%20Sands%20%283%29.SC2Replay |
| 22:50.26 | nightcracker | that sucks |
| 22:50.34 | nightcracker | i hate protoss |
| 22:50.38 | nightcracker | i hate playing with protoss |
| 22:50.42 | nightcracker | i hate playing against protoss |
| 22:51.01 | nightcracker | and i suck at SC* btw :P |
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| 22:51.56 | Shirik | Cide |
| 22:51.58 | Shirik | we ready for this? |
| 22:53.46 | Shirik | Cide! |
| 22:55.52 | Shirik | nightcracker: Impressive |
| 22:55.52 | Cide | yes |
| 22:55.56 | Cide | give me a few minutes sorry |
| 22:56.05 | Cide | and you should get skype |
| 22:56.25 | nightcracker | lol |
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| 22:59.26 | foxlit | gr, wtb flash replay player or something. |
| 23:01.17 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: and that is why you don't build your barracks/supply depot in the middle of nowhere |
| 23:02.08 | foxlit | oh hey, a zealot rush |
| 23:03.54 | foxlit | Okay, so, in order: you built your initial buildings at an undefended choke rather than close to your base |
| 23:03.58 | foxlit | You then stop building SCVs. |
| 23:04.18 | foxlit | And the four marines fail to fend off three stailers and three zealots. |
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| 23:06.37 | Seerah | Kraps: http://www.break.com/index/guy-in-wheelchair-stops-robber-1950403 why didn't you tell us you were a hero? :) |
| 23:08.46 | Angayelle | ok, i tried very hard to understand how unitframes works but i'm stuck on making the frame clickable, here the simplest frame i could think of, just the player frame. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142758 |
| 23:08.53 | Angayelle | it reacts when i mouseover with a buff like any other unit |
| 23:09.30 | Angayelle | targetiing doesn't work when clicking, menu don't work either |
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| 23:13.01 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: hm? who's not playing with glyphs? |
| 23:14.12 | Angayelle | playing with your glyphs make baby jesus cry |
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| 23:25.57 | Shirik | Cide T_T |
| 23:26.45 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: if I don't block my choke I end up getting screwed in other ways =/ |
| 23:26.53 | jnwhiteh | but maybe I'm confusing my play against zerg and my play against protoss |
| 23:26.57 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: problem is, you blocked the wrong choke |
| 23:26.57 | jnwhiteh | I have to remember that they're different. |
| 23:27.28 | jnwhiteh | yeah the ramp would have been better |
| 23:27.38 | foxlit | The choke you blocked was for your natural; the ramp is a far better location. |
| 23:27.46 | jnwhiteh | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/642175/SC2Replays/Steppes%20of%20War.SC2Replay is one I just won |
| 23:27.49 | jnwhiteh | but he was terrible |
| 23:27.59 | jnwhiteh | warning, its 46 minutes |
| 23:28.02 | jnwhiteh | since I was being careful :P |
| 23:28.15 | jnwhiteh | I really dont know how to play against zerg |
| 23:28.18 | foxlit | I cannot overstate the importance of building more SCVs |
| 23:28.22 | Shirik | ^ |
| 23:28.24 | jnwhiteh | I wonder why he went so anti-air |
| 23:28.27 | Shirik | I am constantly building SCVs |
| 23:28.27 | jnwhiteh | I do, normally |
| 23:28.29 | Shirik | like |
| 23:28.30 | jnwhiteh | as soon as I run into problems |
| 23:28.31 | jnwhiteh | I fail. |
| 23:28.33 | Shirik | there is never a point where I'm not |
| 23:28.34 | jnwhiteh | I'm aware of this :P |
| 23:28.35 | Jerub | i nearly 2manned icehowl last night |
| 23:28.43 | Shirik | and mules |
| 23:28.59 | foxlit | Mules are more important in the beginning, really. |
| 23:29.08 | jnwhiteh | well I'm sending them =) |
| 23:29.08 | Shirik | important always imo :P |
| 23:29.38 | foxlit | Since you're mildly behind on worker count at that time. Once you reach a certain critical mass of SCV income, scans/depots could be more useful. |
| 23:29.44 | foxlit | Depends on your situation, though :) |
| 23:30.17 | foxlit | In general, never build where you cannot reinforce your SCV should it get attacked -- this also holds for some 2v2 maps where the common choke is too far away from your base |
| 23:30.44 | foxlit | You're better off with a completed barracks close to your CC than a delayed barracks in the middle of nowhere. |
| 23:30.44 | jnwhiteh | *nod* it was clearly a mistake in this case |
| 23:30.46 | jnwhiteh | first time I tried that. |
| 23:30.50 | jnwhiteh | well yes |
| 23:30.53 | jnwhiteh | I'v econcerded this |
| 23:31.01 | jnwhiteh | you probably don't need to keep pounding me over the heal with it =) |
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| 23:31.21 | cbreak | I usually stop building SCVs and start building supply depots all over the map |
| 23:31.23 | foxlit | There are very few things that you could be pounded over the head with in that replay :) |
| 23:31.28 | cbreak | when the enemy destroys my command center |
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| 23:32.25 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: well you said it once =) |
| 23:32.30 | jnwhiteh | and things cascade, you know that. |
| 23:33.00 | foxlit | Yesyes. Basically, there's nothing else I can say about that replay :) |
| 23:33.35 | foxlit | I've lost an awesome 2v2 the other day because we stopped building units after cornering our opponents at their bases. |
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| 23:33.50 | jnwhiteh | I played a bit better against the zerg player, tho I still have issues |
| 23:33.54 | foxlit | (that's entirely unrelated, but it was an awesome "oh crap, now why did I go and do that?" moment) |
| 23:34.02 | jnwhiteh | and yes, I didn't have Stimpack or Combat Shield at the end of the 46 minute game |
| 23:34.13 | jnwhiteh | so there's no need to say anything, I'm aware of that issue =) |
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| 23:35.05 | foxlit | Personally, I hate playing against zerg with a passion. |
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| 23:35.11 | foxlit | Mutalisks are pure annoyance. |
| 23:35.14 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 23:35.19 | cbreak | thor power |
| 23:35.20 | jnwhiteh | and I have such a hard time defending against them |
| 23:35.26 | cbreak | psi storm power |
| 23:35.55 | foxlit | cbreak: dunno. Psi storm is way off in the tech tree; if we're going there, I'd prefer phoenixes. |
| 23:36.08 | cbreak | It's usually on the path I go |
| 23:36.23 | foxlit | Plus how well does it work against fast-moving fliers? |
| 23:36.28 | Cide | Shirik, almost done |
| 23:36.31 | Cide | this game of HoN dragged out |
| 23:36.42 | cbreak | depends |
| 23:36.43 | Shirik | Cide I'm already playing with someone else :/ |
| 23:36.46 | jnwhiteh | I should play HoN again |
| 23:36.50 | cbreak | they can't move and shoot :) |
| 23:36.58 | cbreak | and they really cluster up well |
| 23:37.14 | cbreak | of course, if the enemy microes well, it won't get off more than one or two ticks |
| 23:37.18 | foxlit | True, but you probably won't kill them. |
| 23:37.36 | foxlit | And then you've built a whole bunch of templars with no energy :( |
| 23:37.38 | cbreak | just use more than one templar :) |
| 23:37.47 | cbreak | zerg built 20 mutas |
| 23:37.59 | cbreak | you can wipe them with four or five templars... maybe... |
| 23:38.13 | cbreak | it all depends on how good the enemy is |
| 23:38.18 | Kraps | Seerah: fucking awesome :D |
| 23:38.23 | foxlit | Everything depends on that :) |
| 23:38.28 | Cide | Shirik, wait WHAT |
| 23:38.35 | foxlit | My default assumption is that they are good. Curse you, diamond. |
| 23:38.39 | cbreak | (and then you can make those lightning ball things, they have an aoe attack with bonus against bio, which is nice against mutas too) |
| 23:38.52 | jnwhiteh | I'm surprised when someone is good in Bronze =) |
| 23:39.06 | cbreak | my default assumption is that they are better than me. ... I hate being right all the time sometimes :/ |
| 23:39.33 | Dagmar | Sounds like it's time to power-up... with WHISKEY! |
| 23:39.47 | foxlit | For me, the main problem with either thors or templars is that I can never seem to cover my entire base -- and the units aren't mobile enough compared to mutas |
| 23:40.11 | jnwhiteh | mutas as SOO fast =( |
| 23:40.32 | foxlit | Stimmed marines work wonders as actual aa, but then you have to keep them at home rather :/ |
| 23:40.47 | cbreak | then... mass phoenix? |
| 23:40.55 | cbreak | phoenixes are fast, and can shoot while moving |
| 23:40.59 | cbreak | unlike mutas |
| 23:41.02 | foxlit | Mass phoenix is nice. |
| 23:41.11 | Sixen | oh noez |
| 23:41.41 | foxlit | The unfortunate drawback is that you end up with a bunch of phoenixes. It's a pretty balanced game :) |
| 23:41.56 | cbreak | you got tons of phoenixes? |
| 23:42.06 | cbreak | enemy zerg got tones of blimps |
| 23:42.14 | cbreak | just find his overloard rally spot :) |
| 23:42.25 | foxlit | It'll probably be by his Hydralisk rally spot. |
| 23:42.29 | foxlit | And that'll be a bowl of laughs :) |
| 23:42.35 | cbreak | gravity beam |
| 23:42.44 | foxlit | More lisks! |
| 23:42.51 | cbreak | well... logitech will love you if you do that |
| 23:43.14 | cbreak | I've seen some crazy replay where someone won against a mass zergling with mass phoenix... |
| 23:43.29 | foxlit | That *is* crazy. |
| 23:43.38 | foxlit | Though zerglings have no aa. |
| 23:43.46 | cbreak | well... it was a 2v2... |
| 23:44.30 | Cide | Shirik, ready now if you've unemo'd enough |
| 23:45.47 | amro | cide cheeses |
| 23:45.48 | amro | true story |
| 23:45.56 | Cide | false story |
| 23:45.56 | amro | proxy hatch in your base |
| 23:46.01 | Cide | no no |
| 23:46.03 | Cide | I proxy the natural |
| 23:46.13 | amro | I do that on scrap station |
| 23:46.14 | Cide | that's just legitimate strategy |
| 23:46.19 | Cide | I do it on every map |
| 23:46.20 | foxlit | :/ |
| 23:46.22 | Cide | 3-0 in placement so far |
| 23:46.26 | Cide | ^_^ |
| 23:46.30 | amro | I rofled when some terran didn't notice till he flew his command center over and it got attacked by the queen |
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| 23:48.21 | cbreak | I had a match on scrap station where I lifted off at the start and flew my whole base to the island |
| 23:48.43 | cbreak | In the end I lost, but the enemy PMed me that he panicked when he couldn't find my base and scout me :) |
| 23:49.08 | foxlit | :/ |
| 23:49.27 | foxlit | That is basically handing the game to your opponent if they're mildly competent |
| 23:49.34 | cbreak | yeah. |
| 23:49.39 | cbreak | but I thought it'd be amusing |
| 23:49.45 | cbreak | it was :) |
| 23:50.06 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 23:50.09 | Cide | better to do it to the expo behind the descructible rocks |
| 23:50.24 | cbreak | that's ages away |
| 23:50.30 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:50.32 | Kraps | i can also start epic console vs pc wars http://kotaku.com/comment/32305714/ |
| 23:50.34 | Cide | hence it's stupid altogether |
| 23:51.34 | cbreak | Kraps: get a mac |
| 23:51.38 | cbreak | we're used to it :/ |
| 23:52.09 | nicoli_s | lol i love how that one guy says theres nothing consoles do better than PCs |
| 23:52.18 | Kraps | incentive not shown cbreak :p |
| 23:52.55 | dardack_ | why does IsUsableItem return true on armor not wearable by DK (class specific) |
| 23:53.06 | cbreak | nicoli_s: consoles don't have updates, you don't need to install games, no need to be always online like most PC games... |
| 23:53.40 | nicoli_s | cbreak:and theres many more than that, its just funny that people act like one is 100% better than the other |
| 23:53.44 | cbreak | oh, wait, modern consoles are so much like computers that they now have updates, game preloading and online mode... |
| 23:53.53 | nicoli_s | they are diff platforms, of course they have ups and downs |
| 23:54.22 | amro | foxlit: or you could spit out an error message and get a free win. |
| 23:54.44 | foxlit | amro? :) |
| 23:54.56 | amro | you haven't seen that replay? |
| 23:55.24 | dardack_ | ok when i try to equip cass specific (not my class item) i get a red message: You can never use that item, is there a way to check for this since IsUsableItem does returns true even tho it shouldn't? |
| 23:56.19 | amro | foxlit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gdoLf1PIDg |
| 23:56.22 | amro | there's a shorter one |
| 23:56.24 | amro | but cba to look |
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| 23:58.31 | foxlit | so... many... thors. |
