| 00:00.11 | syrae | Lulia: yar. Thanks :) |
| 00:00.30 | frontendloader | What'd Taroven do to get his addon downloads all disabled? |
| 00:00.52 | Shirik | they're corrupt is all |
| 00:00.54 | taroven | frontendloader: The beta releases are fine. |
| 00:01.11 | taroven | frontendloader: I just had a packaging mishap, zip within a zip. The beta releases are fine. |
| 00:01.33 | taroven | frontendloader: Getting some extra changes in before I put up an actual release. |
| 00:01.44 | frontendloader | oh that message on eventhorizon's page looks a little more forboding than "woops packaging mishap" |
| 00:01.58 | Cide | I herd u liek zips so I put a zip in ur zip so u can zip while u zip |
| 00:01.59 | frontendloader | Sounded like you might have been forced into exile |
| 00:02.09 | Arrowmaster | Cide: zipbomb! |
| 00:02.20 | Cide | the epitome of ziprecursion |
| 00:02.24 | taroven | Heh, naw. It was a five second fix, I just opted not to fix the main release because of some glitches. |
| 00:04.01 | Lulia | Hmm, I think the restore discs for my other computer are mussed. Sucks :-/ |
| 00:04.29 | Cairenn | (7:00:25 PM) frontendloader: What'd Taroven do to get his addon downloads all disabled? <== on what site? There is only one that is currently on hold on WoWI, and taroven and I have already discussed and he knows (as is obvious by his own statements in here) |
| 00:05.25 | Cairenn | It's the "ALL disabled" that I'm trying to verify which site |
| 00:05.35 | taroven | Cairenn: Speaking of, would you be able to roll back that upload? |
| 00:05.49 | taroven | Eh, I didn't muck with Curse for this one. It's just the one file. =P |
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| 00:05.53 | syrae | Sintacks: thank you for fixing that |
| 00:06.04 | Sintacks | no problem. |
| 00:06.10 | Arrowmaster | taroven: i think curse detects and red flags zips in zips |
| 00:06.10 | Sintacks | Thank you for not losing your mind about it. |
| 00:06.21 | Sintacks | it's un tested though |
| 00:06.26 | Sintacks | someone |
| 00:06.33 | taroven | Arrowmaster: Prolly. I'm always lazy about uploading to Curse though, so it's still an older version anyway. |
| 00:06.36 | Cide | ace |
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| 00:06.41 | Cide | are you away still, Sintacks? |
| 00:06.59 | Sintacks | I set /away to make sure I was away for it. lol |
| 00:07.06 | Cide | seems fixed |
| 00:07.11 | Sintacks | should be |
| 00:07.54 | Sintacks | i just added an if ($network != freenode). only channels on this network i'm in are related to WoW UI dev stuff |
| 00:08.10 | Cide | why would you even want to keep that in the first place dude |
| 00:09.32 | Sintacks | meh |
| 00:09.55 | Shirik | cide |
| 00:09.58 | Shirik | let's get some games in tonight |
| 00:10.03 | Shirik | only a few though I have a paper to write |
| 00:10.07 | Cide | probably not :( |
| 00:10.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:10.24 | Cide | got an early thing I have to attend tomorrow |
| 00:12.02 | Cairenn | taroven: should be set now |
| 00:12.30 | taroven | Cairenn: Thankies. |
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| 00:19.59 | Nobgul | resistance is futile |
| 00:21.02 | Nobgul | Couldn't help myself =P |
| 00:24.10 | mascondante | Ok I'm still way green so hang on tight... if I'm getting grief about things needing to be local instead of global I'd assume that I not only need to fix the flagged lines, but every reference to those variables? |
| 00:24.33 | mascondante | that's sort of what I gathered from the other devs but they're busy... or something... atm |
| 00:24.35 | Jamash | when you first assign to a variable you need to declare it as local, but not after that |
| 00:24.50 | Jamash | you also don't need to declare function arguments as local |
| 00:24.53 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 00:25.07 | Cide | read it |
| 00:25.36 | mascondante | groans |
| 00:25.45 | syrae | If I only read documentation, I'd never get any development done... |
| 00:25.57 | Jamash | wrong |
| 00:25.59 | Cide | if I only answered your stupid questions I'd never get anything done ever |
| 00:26.12 | Jamash | if you read documentation, you get more done |
| 00:26.13 | Cide | and who's time do you think is more valuable? |
| 00:26.17 | Zhinjio | If you never read any documentation, you'll never get any development done. |
| 00:26.19 | syrae | Also, if I only asked questions in IRC, I'd never get any development done |
| 00:26.20 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 00:26.28 | Cide | s/who's/whose/ |
| 00:26.51 | mascondante | yeah I know I need to finish reading it. It reads like a... military instruction. About as dry as CDCs |
| 00:26.56 | syrae | I didn't say I never read docs, but the usefulness of reading the entire PIL and WoW Programming books is not helpful |
| 00:27.06 | syrae | when trying to learn stuff for the first time |
| 00:27.08 | Jamash | documentation is not a novel |
| 00:27.13 | Cide | ^ |
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| 00:27.19 | Jamash | it's a choose-your-own-adventure |
| 00:27.25 | Cide | if you have doubts about locals |
| 00:27.29 | Cide | read the chapter about locals |
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| 00:27.46 | Jamash | you start where you need information, and when you encounter a concept or term you don't understand, you look that up |
| 00:27.50 | mascondante | Sounds good. Thanks for not letting me stay lazy... I guess :-p |
| 00:27.56 | syrae | Well, the way that things get linked in here sometimes, it seems to imply that one must read the entire contents |
| 00:28.03 | Cide | one should |
| 00:28.04 | Cide | over time |
| 00:28.14 | Cide | it teaches you, you know, how to... program in lua |
| 00:28.27 | Jamash | when Cide links PiL he means "go look it up in PiL" not "go read all of PiL in chapter order" |
| 00:28.36 | Cide | oh I'm not so sure about that |
| 00:28.42 | Cide | but you may choose the former if you must |
| 00:28.42 | syrae | heh |
| 00:28.42 | industrial | I did, I enjoyed it |
| 00:28.45 | Jamash | in much the same way as when someone links wikipedia they don't mean "go read all of wikipedia" |
| 00:29.04 | syrae | I forget things after I read them in short order |
| 00:29.12 | Jamash | write them down |
| 00:29.13 | Sintacks | hmm. some how, making my away notice not tigger on this network, broke the whole rest of my mIRC theme... |
| 00:29.19 | Jamash | on the back of your hand if necessary |
| 00:29.21 | Cide | then why bother learning anything if you have such a shitty memory? |
| 00:29.21 | syrae | Writing them down doesn't help. |
| 00:29.24 | syrae | I have to use them |
| 00:29.26 | mascondante | lol I know. I just like to disect things and figure it out. That's when it's fun to me. Yeah. So like still disect things but when I hit a bump, look it up. That what you mean? |
| 00:29.29 | Cide | then use them |
| 00:29.33 | Jamash | ^ |
| 00:29.35 | syrae | I do! |
| 00:29.39 | Jamash | well then |
| 00:29.42 | Cide | but you might as well read as ask |
| 00:29.45 | syrae | But I can't use them if I'm spending all my time reading the docs |
| 00:29.49 | Cide | and the former doesn't require me getting angry |
| 00:29.51 | Jamash | no no no no no |
| 00:30.07 | Cide | if you need to know something, look it up |
| 00:30.08 | Jamash | read a page, write some trivial code, run it, see what happens |
| 00:30.24 | Jamash | have the interpreter / wow open while you read the documentation |
| 00:30.27 | syrae | Jamash: that's what I do. |
| 00:30.39 | Shirik | read a page, write some trivial code, run luac -l on it, alter the Lua bytecode, write your own VM |
| 00:30.44 | Jamash | then quit yer bitchin' yo |
| 00:30.53 | syrae | I'm not bitchin'! |
| 00:31.05 | mascondante | I think he meant me. |
| 00:31.17 | Jamash | no I meant syrae |
| 00:31.21 | Lulia | Cairenn |
| 00:31.27 | Cairenn | Lulia |
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| 00:31.31 | Jamash | Fisker |
| 00:31.33 | syrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:31.41 | Shirik | Shirik |
| 00:31.46 | Lulia | For the optional files, is it kosher to upload a zip with a bunch of optional images for my adodn? |
| 00:31.57 | Lulia | addon( |
| 00:32.00 | Lulia | addon* |
| 00:32.11 | Jamash | type faster, not better? |
| 00:32.17 | syrae | I'm just trying to say that linking the PIL and saying "read it" isn't going to be helpful for everyone |
| 00:32.21 | Lulia | yes! speed speed speed. :D |
| 00:32.26 | Cairenn | If I'm understanding what you are asking correctly, yes, that's exactly the sort of thing it is for |
| 00:32.26 | Jamash | speed kills |
| 00:32.44 | Lulia | Well it's not a patch or an optional addon ;) |
| 00:32.55 | Lulia | So I was confused by those links, I suppose I'll classify it as a patch though |
| 00:32.58 | Jamash | when I was learning C, I carried K&R around and whenever a question came up I flipped it open and looked up the answer |
| 00:33.00 | Cairenn | they are optional addons |
| 00:33.04 | Cairenn | no, addon |
| 00:33.06 | Lulia | oh |
| 00:33.10 | Cairenn | not patch |
| 00:33.15 | Cairenn | patch fixes something |
| 00:33.20 | Cairenn | addon adds to |
| 00:33.23 | Lulia | why would it be optional? |
| 00:33.27 | Lulia | if it fixes stuff? |
| 00:33.30 | Lulia | O.o |
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| 00:33.45 | Cairenn | because it would be by someone other than the original author :p |
| 00:33.49 | Lulia | Ah |
| 00:33.49 | Jamash | This prompted a comment from another student in class that it was "like my bible" |
| 00:33.54 | Lulia | But I'm the original author |
| 00:34.07 | Cairenn | bangs her head on the desk |
| 00:34.07 | Lulia | I just figured it would be nice not to force the high-res images in the download |
| 00:34.13 | Lulia | Don't do that |
| 00:34.17 | Lulia | hugs Cairenn. |
| 00:34.17 | Jamash | my attitude towards that is that if you don't look things up when you don't know them, how are you going to learn them? |
| 00:34.49 | Lulia | I was being tongue-in-cheek with the last comment. Sorry :( |
| 00:35.19 | Jamash | I need to finish fixing learning aid |
| 00:35.27 | Jamash | lua is making me sad though |
| 00:35.27 | syrae | Jamash: In general I have one of two things happen when I don't know something. 1) I look it up. I do this first because I prefer learning that way. 2) I ask. I do this when I donno where to look or when I find the answer and it still doesn't make any sense. |
| 00:35.49 | Jamash | that's fine |
| 00:36.17 | Jamash | the trick is asking in such a way as to indicate that you did look and didn't find |
| 00:36.33 | syrae | I wasn't even asking a question earlier... >_< |
| 00:36.44 | Jamash | I'm discussing in general, not you specifically |
| 00:36.53 | Cide | you just had an issue with reading documentation to answer questions |
| 00:36.54 | Lulia | I made Cairenn upset :( |
| 00:36.59 | Cairenn | no |
| 00:38.12 | syrae | I feel like I'm miscommunicating what I'm trying to say here, so I'll let it lie. |
| 00:42.41 | Lulia | uh |
| 00:42.54 | Lulia | Cairenn... apparently your website doesnt like transparent pngs?? |
| 00:43.16 | Lulia | It's doing some REALLY funky stuff to the image previews |
| 00:43.29 | Cairenn | shrugs, check with dolby |
| 00:43.43 | Lulia | Alright |
| 00:43.45 | Lulia | >.> |
| 00:45.15 | Jamash | resizing images with alpha is tricky |
| 00:45.47 | Cide | go go gadget pil |
| 00:45.57 | Cide | ^ Python Imaging Library |
| 00:45.59 | Jamash | the other pil ;) |
| 00:47.36 | Kraps | how legit is this concern? |
| 00:47.38 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27607270963&sid=1&pageNo=13#256 |
| 00:47.49 | Lulia | Oh wow, someone already downloaded the optional images |
| 00:47.50 | Lulia | >.> |
| 00:49.49 | Lulia | Is dolby around or afk? |
| 00:50.22 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.31 | Lulia | ah |
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| 00:51.50 | Jamash | Kraps: yeah putting real names up is pointless and potentially harmful |
| 00:52.36 | Kraps | i didnt see anyone on the sce forums complain |
| 00:52.44 | Kraps | s/sce/sc2/ |
| 00:57.24 | Shirik | um |
| 00:57.40 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_administrators_like_J.delanoy_(Jon_Delanoy),_Shirik,_and_NuclearWarfare_have_massive_homosexual_orgies_where_they_sweatily_hump_each_other. |
| 00:57.46 | Shirik | someone doesn't like me |
| 00:57.47 | Lulia | I think the fact that the entirety of my AddOn, with all of its default images is 1/6th the size of the addon package with hi-res images justifies my choice :D |
| 00:57.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:57.54 | Lulia | uh, what? |
| 00:58.32 | Lulia | Has someone been posting these bogus articles all day? |
| 00:59.03 | Kraps | you poor, innocent Lulia |
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| 00:59.16 | Lulia | O.o |
| 00:59.37 | Lulia | I'm very aware of the volatile nature of the internets :P |
| 01:00.29 | Cide | Shirik is a wikipedia admin |
| 01:00.35 | Cide | it gives him a lot of justified shit |
| 01:00.58 | Wobin | pics or gtfo? |
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| 01:03.59 | Lulia | God, my internet has been shit for the past few hours. |
| 01:05.02 | Trela | Did you sacrifice a gnome today? |
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| 01:09.54 | Xyphoid | wtf, michael moorcock writes dr who books? |
| 01:09.55 | Xyphoid | nice |
| 01:10.19 | A-KO | that story in CT is so messed up. |
| 01:10.26 | A-KO | If I were the husband, they'd have to keep me out of the court room. |
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| 01:10.38 | A-KO | Id' try everything humanly possible to kill those 2 guys |
| 01:15.38 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVknVfIW-z0 |
| 01:15.53 | Shadowed | ZorbaBeta still there? |
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| 01:18.31 | Gitt | hey guys, trying to hide a message in chat frames, works well for the default chat frame, bit if any other chat frames are open, the message still shows. |
| 01:18.42 | Gitt | more specifically, the /played message |
| 01:21.28 | Arrowmaster | use ChatFrame_AddMessageFilter |
| 01:21.51 | Gitt | thanks |
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| 01:25.18 | Kraps | anyone see Charlie St. Cloud? |
| 01:27.21 | Arrowmaster | hmm G2 finally rooted, do i get one and try to use it on my AT&T plan or remove my line from our family plan and get my own plan on T-Mobile |
| 01:30.32 | Shadowed | ah nevermind ZorbaBeta |
| 01:34.41 | Amarande | Arrow: naturally, you do whatever involves not dealing with AT&T any more than necessary :) |
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| 01:40.25 | Kraps | this uncanny valley is intense http://content8.flixster.com/rtactor/40/86/40862_pro.jpg |
| 01:41.19 | Jerub | Kraps: is that CG? |
| 01:41.27 | Kraps | hehe |
| 01:41.41 | Jerub | Kraps: no, srsly, is it? |
| 01:41.46 | Kraps | no |
| 01:41.57 | Kraps | its megan fox |
| 01:42.02 | Jerub | oh, right |
| 01:48.36 | Cide | megan foxvision ftw |
| 01:49.02 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: well i have to keep AT&T in one form or another, T-Mobile service doesnt cover the entire state |
| 01:49.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont need it but others on our family plan do |
| 01:54.37 | Amarande | eww |
| 01:54.48 | Amarande | I'm thinking to switch to Verizon once my current AT&T contract runs out |
| 01:54.56 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 01:55.04 | Amarande | the cell service has been disappointing lately, and after my experience with att.net stuffing up my WoW over the weekend I'm not too happy with AT&T at all |
| 01:56.13 | Shirik | why is eww? |
| 01:56.15 | Shirik | AT&T is shit |
| 01:56.36 | Arrowmaster | id still rather use AT&T over Verizon |
| 01:56.57 | Arrowmaster | and i dont live in a big city, i have no issues with AT&T |
| 01:58.23 | Arrowmaster | T-Mobile drops service once you start getting into the northern ohio area though where we have a spot in a camp ground my dad goes to a lot during the summer |
| 01:58.28 | Shirik | What's wrong with Verizon? |
| 01:58.55 | Amarande | Arrow: let's put it this way about AT&T |
| 01:58.58 | Cide | their inability to do math? |
| 01:59.04 | Amarande | I was in Atlanta for Dragon Con, and there are places IN ATLANTA that I can't get AT&T service. |
| 01:59.12 | Amarande | In the city where AT&T MOBILE IS HQ'D. |
| 01:59.49 | Cide | maybe your phone is awful |
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| 02:03.49 | Gitt | Arrowmaster: maybe I'm looking at this wrong, but ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter doesn't work for sytem messages such as /played |
| 02:04.04 | Shirik | I hate AT&T |
| 02:04.05 | Shirik | but |
| 02:04.06 | Arrowmaster | Gitt: it should |
| 02:04.11 | Shirik | I have to agree with Cide here |
| 02:04.43 | Gitt | from my understanding you pass it 1) event name string, 2) callback function... if the callback returns true, it's filtered, otherwise it's not |
| 02:05.04 | Arrowmaster | my current phone is shit, i could barely understand anybody on the phone during blizzcon |
| 02:05.09 | Gitt | I made a simple if true then return true end function, and used that as the callback. Didn't work |
| 02:05.27 | Arrowmaster | Gitt: what did you pass as the event name string? |
| 02:05.37 | Gitt | TIME_PLAYED_MSG |
| 02:05.46 | Arrowmaster | thats not it |
| 02:05.47 | Gnarfoz | also, 'function return true end' would be enough ;p |
| 02:06.10 | Shirik | no it wouldn't |
| 02:06.14 | Arrowmaster | its CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM i think, then you would use the arguments passed to the function to determine if it was the message you are looking for |
| 02:06.15 | Shirik | it would be a syntax error |
| 02:06.15 | Gnarfoz | (okay, maybe you'd need a function name, or use the proper syntax for an anonymous function) |
| 02:06.20 | Shirik | :P |
| 02:06.25 | Gitt | hmm |
| 02:06.38 | Gnarfoz | gtfo 2-word-per-line syndrome |
| 02:06.39 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:07.02 | Gnarfoz | !api time_played |
| 02:07.02 | lua_bot | TIME_PLAYED_MSG: Fires when information about the player's total time played becomes available (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/TIME_PLAYED_MSG) |
| 02:07.46 | Arrowmaster | yes that event may fire but thats not the event causing the output to the chatframe, that event would be CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 02:07.53 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 02:07.58 | Gnarfoz | yes, you already established that |
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| 02:08.09 | Arrowmaster | unless somewhere in the chatframe code it listens for that event, which it might |
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| 02:08.43 | Gnarfoz | only to then output it; this is like VARIABLES_LOADED style stuff |
| 02:09.07 | Gnarfoz | or rather, that inspect_ready thing or whatever |
| 02:09.16 | Gnarfoz | aaanyway: check framexml |
| 02:09.16 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:11.39 | Gitt | damn, not having luck filtering w/ CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM either |
| 02:11.45 | Gitt | maybe it's time to step away for a while |
| 02:15.23 | bluspacecow | can anyone recall what file custom camera views are saved into ? |
| 02:16.29 | Arrowmaster | the one with camera in the name |
| 02:17.49 | bluspacecow | odd cant seem to find one in wtf |
| 02:19.08 | Arrowmaster | didnt they remove the ability to save camera views for a while |
| 02:19.21 | Arrowmaster | when they added the cloud stuff |
| 02:19.53 | Arrowmaster | well removed isnt right, more like broke |
| 02:20.13 | ZorbaBeta | shadowed, you got it :D |
| 02:21.22 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1113829 |
| 02:21.24 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 02:22.21 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: you cant use it |
| 02:22.31 | bluspacecow | why not |
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| 02:23.06 | Arrowmaster | didnt think you lived in the US |
| 02:23.33 | bluspacecow | poop! |
| 02:23.46 | bluspacecow | well im sure blizzard could register an international 0800 |
| 02:23.57 | bluspacecow | but whats really preventing me is on a keychain around my neck |
| 02:24.22 | bluspacecow | "To switch to another security option, you must first deactivate the one you are currently using." |
| 02:24.54 | Cide | and you can do that from account administration? |
| 02:25.03 | bluspacecow | oh look FAQ ftw "Currently, the Battle.net Dial-in Authenticator is only available to U.S. residents" |
| 02:25.05 | bluspacecow | yeah Cide |
| 02:25.14 | bluspacecow | Securtiy options |
| 02:25.18 | bluspacecow | blue text far right |
| 02:25.23 | Cide | I know where it is |
| 02:25.33 | Cide | I have no reason to deactivate mine :P |
| 02:25.36 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 02:25.42 | bluspacecow | sorry its just habit |
| 02:26.06 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: uhm, what's an "international 0800" supposed to be? |
| 02:26.20 | bluspacecow | its an 0800 number you can call anywhere in the world |
| 02:26.35 | Gnarfoz | and how's that supposed to work? |
| 02:26.54 | bluspacecow | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toll-free_telephone_number#Universal_International_Freephone_numbers |
| 02:27.06 | Gnarfoz | or does it require bringing "freedom" to every country in the world first? :D |
| 02:27.18 | bluspacecow | it uses a country code of 800 |
| 02:27.29 | Gnarfoz | oooh, they cheat. |
| 02:27.29 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:27.35 | bluspacecow | eg |
| 02:27.35 | Gnarfoz | nice hack |
| 02:27.35 | bluspacecow | http://www.itelegram.com/telegram/contact.asp |
| 02:27.59 | Arrowmaster | i bet i would still need the international calling option on my cell phone to call that |
| 02:28.10 | Gnarfoz | I'd hope so |
| 02:28.40 | Gnarfoz | because there's no guarantee the ITU can make for those calls to be actually free in any country :P |
| 02:29.18 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 02:29.40 | bluspacecow | i'm thinking it could be cheaper for them to just register a bunch of 0800 numbers in each country |
| 02:32.04 | Arrowmaster | my phone bill from blizzcon is epic |
| 02:32.32 | kd3 | mine was pretty good this year. only one international phone call |
| 02:32.45 | Kraps | 4chan affects your eyesight |
| 02:32.52 | Arrowmaster | mine is full of intl phone calls and txt messages |
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| 02:35.02 | bluspacecow | mine was $40 + a $10 cellphone minutes card i never used |
| 02:35.03 | Arrowmaster | somehow i used 9KB of data usage by accident |
| 02:35.10 | bluspacecow | pretty crappy cellphone too |
| 02:35.19 | Gitt | is there an "all chat frames" equivalent like DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME? |
| 02:35.21 | Arrowmaster | $3.80 worth of text messages |
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| 02:36.12 | Arrowmaster | and only $7.47 worth of phone calls |
| 02:38.08 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck, i got charged more for calls to Cairenn than for calls to Xinhuan |
| 02:38.19 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:38.37 | Arrowmaster | $0.19 vs $0.16 |
| 02:38.59 | Cairenn | I could make a joke, but it'd actually look bad on me, so I won't |
| 02:39.04 | Arrowmaster | $0.28 for calls to Adys |
| 02:39.15 | Arrowmaster | per minute for all |
| 02:39.23 | Thrae | Voice communication companies use voice recognition software to determine gender and tone and charge more if the conversation sounds like a geeky male talking to a female of any type. |
| 02:39.36 | Cairenn | Thrae: ROFL |
| 02:39.41 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 02:39.45 | Thrae | It's a new cash cow. |
| 02:39.49 | Seerah | I guess Adys sounds like a sexy woman... o.O |
| 02:40.18 | Thrae | Hey, I get called "madam" by telemarkers...phone reception can change things. |
| 02:40.31 | Arrowmaster | he does with that half french half british accent |
| 02:40.59 | Thrae | Half French and Half British sounds like he hates himself but doesn't care. |
| 02:41.54 | Gnarfoz | pf, they're already joining their militaries, this is only the first step |
| 02:42.18 | Gnarfoz | adys is a prototype for the same idea applied to their citizens! |
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| 02:56.14 | Arrowmaster | ive been playing brutal legend for the past 10 hours....... |
| 02:57.00 | Gnarfoz | keep going for another 10 |
| 02:58.31 | Arrowmaster | by playing i mean, i boosted the 50 multiplayer wins, then did the rest of the DLC, then did the AI stage battle achievements, and then for the next 6 hours i was just sitting in a game alone making 40 units and sending them to their death vs the clit monster whenever i had enough resources |
| 03:03.16 | Shirik | http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/man-files-for-restraining-order-against-tim-tebow-1034956.html?cxtype=rss_news |
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| 03:07.55 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5686011/keep-your-world-of-warcraft-account-safe-with-one-simple-phone-call |
| 03:10.39 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd5yN43TqCk&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:10.41 | Kraps | hey dan radcliffe is in the simpsons halloween episode, parodying twilight |
| 03:10.56 | Wobin | that's ridiculously meta |
| 03:12.41 | Kraps | ? |
| 03:13.20 | Arrowmaster | lol the dude got ear plugs too |
| 03:15.16 | Seerah | Kraps: yeah, I thought that was interesting, too |
| 03:15.47 | Kraps | Seerah: why? |
| 03:16.45 | Seerah | ... because it's daniel radcliffe playing edward? |
| 03:16.48 | Seerah | :p |
| 03:17.28 | Seerah | hugs Kraps |
| 03:18.02 | Amarande | yay. destroying things with the power of GIRLY PINK. |
| 03:18.09 | Amarande | apparently, that's the color +85 AP to 2H gives. :S |
| 03:18.21 | Seerah | nice :) |
| 03:19.43 | Kraps | Seerah |
| 03:19.56 | Seerah | yes, dear? |
| 03:20.18 | Kraps | nothin :p |
| 03:20.28 | Seerah | :p |
| 03:20.52 | Kraps | looking for good recent movies on dvd |
| 03:21.27 | Jerub | Kraps: i watched 'Empire Records' for the first time this week |
| 03:21.32 | Jerub | i don't know how that movie passed me by |
| 03:21.59 | Seerah | Scott Pilgrim came out on dvd today |
| 03:23.10 | Arrowmaster | it did? |
| 03:23.24 | Seerah | How to Train Your Dragon, and there are a few more that came out in the past month or two, which I would recommend, if you want more titles |
| 03:23.26 | Arrowmaster | i got a BD rip sometime last week or the week before |
| 03:23.36 | Seerah | Arrowmaster: according to Flixster on my phone, it did |
| 03:23.44 | Kraps | toy story 3 |
| 03:23.50 | Kraps | is brilliant |
| 03:23.50 | Seerah | yep, that, too |
| 03:24.23 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: i always wait for dvd |
| 03:25.03 | Kraps | its just not worth watching anything in bad quality |
| 03:25.51 | Arrowmaster | i said BD rip, as in higher than dvd quality |
| 03:25.54 | Seerah | Kraps: in that case, I also recommend Get Him to the Greek, Robin Hood, and Letters to Juliet (though you may not be very interested in that one :p ) |
| 03:26.42 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: oh, wasnt sure what bd was :p |
| 03:28.14 | Kraps | i saw inception as well |
| 03:29.05 | Xyphoid | four lions so awesome |
| 03:31.01 | Seerah | I just watched the trailer for Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern are Undead... Not sure if that's too crazy for me or not. Anyone see it? (It also just came out on dvd.) |
| 03:31.21 | Gnarfoz | sounds jewish |
| 03:31.43 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosencrantz_and_Guildenstern |
| 03:32.19 | Kraps | WHOA GNARFOZ I'M OFFENDED |
| 03:32.29 | Gnarfoz | like I give a shit |
| 03:32.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:32.40 | Xyphoid | the other rosencrantz and guildenstern movie with gary oldman is pretty sweet |
| 03:32.51 | Gnarfoz | and it has Tim Roth in it |
| 03:33.21 | Gnarfoz | which reminded me that I have yet to watch the latest Lie to Me episode :D |
| 03:35.11 | Amarande | did I hear correctly that anzu now spawns normally on heroic sethekk and no longer needs a druid? |
| 03:36.00 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: i found lie to me to be really slow and not interesting lately |
| 03:36.52 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: that's Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead that has Tim Roth. This is UNdead |
| 03:38.01 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: yes, Captainess Obvious |
| 03:38.42 | Seerah | you're the one who was talking about a totally different movie. |
| 03:38.44 | Seerah | :p |
| 03:39.03 | Gnarfoz | you're the one who linked a wiki page without scrolling down to see that... it has a link to the "are dead" version. |
| 03:39.07 | Kraps | watching robin hood |
| 03:40.31 | Gnarfoz | (also, I don't find Rosencrantz to be much of a danish sounding name :D) |
| 03:41.34 | Seerah | Gnarfoz: I know that it had that link. /sigh |
| 03:42.07 | Gnarfoz | well, then you have Xyphoid on ignore, or something. |
| 03:42.37 | Seerah | scrolls back up |
| 03:42.45 | Seerah | no, not on ignore :) |
| 03:42.47 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: the #wowuidev survival button? heh |
| 03:42.55 | Amarande | surprisingly, I still haven't felt forced to use it yet. |
| 03:43.00 | Seerah | just totally ignored, albeit not on purpose :) |
| 03:43.42 | Gnarfoz | I must be on IRC 0.4 or something, my survival button is labeled "flame" |
| 03:43.49 | Gnarfoz | doesn't always work |
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| 03:56.21 | Gitt | gah, still stuck on this... RemoveChatWindowMessages(index,"SYSTEM") *should* hide /played messages as well, right? |
| 03:59.25 | Seerah | Gitt: why would you hide a message that is requested by a slash command? wouldn't someone want to see that information if they typed /played? |
| 03:59.51 | Gitt | Seerah: I'm only wanting to hide it when my addon requests it |
| 04:00.07 | Seerah | Does RequestTimePlayed() cause the message to appear? |
| 04:00.16 | Gitt | yes |
| 04:00.20 | Seerah | ah |
| 04:00.29 | Gitt | well, it requests it.. then when it's available TIME_PLAYED_MSG fires |
| 04:00.41 | Seerah | right |
| 04:00.43 | Seerah | gotcha |
| 04:00.56 | Gitt | I've managed to make this happen on the default chat frame, but not the other chat frames |
| 04:01.24 | Sixen | Does anyone know who I can contact about the Addon Studio? |
| 04:03.07 | Jamash | Inside the AddOn Studio? |
| 04:03.16 | Arrowmaster | Gitt: hook ChatFrame_DisplayTimePlayed() and disable it before you call RequestTimePlayed() then reenable it afterwards |
| 04:03.17 | Sixen | Wut? |
| 04:03.29 | Gitt | Arrowmaster: that works for only the default frame |
| 04:03.33 | Gitt | I had initially done this |
| 04:03.42 | Jamash | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Inside_the_Actors_Studio |
| 04:03.46 | Arrowmaster | no that will work for all frames |
| 04:03.50 | Gitt | I do see that it takes arguments, but not documentation on what that does |
| 04:04.07 | Sixen | The World of Warcraft addon studio? |
| 04:04.20 | Arrowmaster | look in http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/ChatFrame.lua |
| 04:04.53 | Jamash | I'm employing my trademark brand of mildly absurd off-the-cuff references. |
| 04:04.56 | Sixen | >.> |
| 04:05.59 | Gitt | Arrowmaster: I'm looking, not sure how you're getting this across all chat frames |
| 04:06.09 | Arrowmaster | because thats how it works |
| 04:06.45 | Kraps | anyone seen The Girl Next Door? |
| 04:07.06 | Arrowmaster | anyone havent? |
| 04:07.35 | Kraps | heh |
| 04:09.56 | Corrodias2 | huh? |
| 04:10.23 | Corrodias2 | the one by Jack Ketchum? |
| 04:12.02 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.48 | Corrodias2 | all right, apparently not, then |
| 04:13.41 | Hirsute | Anyone know, off the top of their heads, what the blizzard raid frames are called? |
| 04:14.12 | Kraps | Hirsute: crap |
| 04:14.21 | Kraps | BAM |
| 04:15.10 | Hirsute | Kraps: Heh. Unfortunately, Crap:Show() does not have the desired effect. |
| 04:15.26 | Hirsute | Nor does Crap:Hide() |
| 04:16.58 | Seerah | crap ~= Crap ;) |
| 04:27.13 | Hirsute | Seerah: Ah, blasted case sensitivity |
| 04:27.25 | Seerah | :D |
| 04:27.55 | Hirsute | :( |
| 04:28.08 | Hirsute | "Attempted to index global crap, a nil value" |
| 04:28.26 | Seerah | hmm... Maybe Kraps was wrong, then. :) |
| 04:28.36 | Seerah | did you try /framestack? |
| 04:28.41 | Hirsute | Must've been. |
| 04:28.49 | Hirsute | Didn't think that was possible. >.> |
| 04:29.17 | Kraps | i'm usually right about these things |
| 04:48.04 | adys_ | gtalk seems to be picking up speed lately, thanks to android phones |
| 04:48.08 | adys_ | hurray for free protocols |
| 04:50.25 | Arrowmaster | i still need to fix my xmpp addresses |
| 04:50.42 | Arrowmaster | they can only be reached through gtalk and not normal xmpp |
| 05:02.12 | Mirrormn | Just won Invincible :> |
| 05:02.25 | Jerub | Mirrormn: grats! |
| 05:02.38 | Jerub | i haven't done lk on hm yet. |
| 05:03.01 | adys_ | Shirik |
| 05:03.16 | Amarande | wow and that means you have light of dawn, too |
| 05:03.23 | Amarande | there's usually only about 50 people per server or so with that |
| 05:03.32 | adys_ | i need to make a chromeless, semi-transparent, custom background+corners window in qt. any idea? |
| 05:03.55 | Amarande | P2 must be absolute and complete hard, harder than the hardest things in this world just on 25, let alone heroic |
| 05:04.38 | Jerub | i dunno |
| 05:04.45 | Jerub | frogger is still the deadliest boss of them all |
| 05:05.23 | Kraps | "i sleep with a dagger. if you so much as move to touch me, i will sever your manhood" |
| 05:05.46 | Amarande | Jerub: your raid has occasional deaths on the ice jets too? |
| 05:07.04 | Jerub | Amarande: no, i mean naxxaramus |
| 05:07.08 | NeoTron | contemplatin taking the step to drop JC for Alchemy |
| 05:07.33 | Jerub | NeoTron: why? better to level another 80 if you want an alchemy toon |
| 05:07.47 | NeoTron | I have another toon with alchemy (and JC) |
| 05:08.19 | NeoTron | specifically I am considering the chance for three reasons: I am lazy and I use a lot more flasks than gems (i.e longer lasting flasks = win, especially one flask per night with the guild bonus) |
| 05:08.37 | NeoTron | 2) I find the way you get new gem patterns obnoxious (assuming it's the same in cata) |
| 05:08.55 | Kraps | i love the casual humor in robin hood |
| 05:09.00 | NeoTron | 3) alchemy has cooler toys (trinket and dragon metamorph with passenger capabilities) |
| 05:10.31 | NeoTron | much easier to get some herbs of the AH and do research than doing some stupid jc daily ... but I guess I should check to see if that is how JC works on beta |
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| 05:12.39 | NeoTron | err. where do you train higher level skills on betA? :P |
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| 05:14.48 | Amarande | dammit. putting an elemental portal at grangol'var = FAIL |
| 05:14.49 | NeoTron | guess in the capital... |
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| 05:15.02 | Amarande | yay, I guess I get to stand around for ten minutes doing nothing now :) |
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| 05:15.24 | Amarande | I can't talk to the Shadowy Initiate because he's next to where the portal pops and fights them |
| 05:15.36 | Amarande | And it's one of those "you have this disguise and if you fight it goes down" quests |
| 05:15.46 | Amarande | So I can't clear the portal *either* :P |
| 05:16.09 | Amarande | they really want us to focus on cata instead of our normal questing, don't they :) |
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| 05:16.40 | Amarande | (never mind that multiple folks have questioned why there should even BE elemental invasion portals in Outland specifically :S) |
| 05:16.58 | Amarande | what's the explanation for the ones in outland? |
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| 05:17.03 | Kraps | pie |
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| 05:19.26 | Amarande | ho hum, and of course the portal popped just as I got here, too :S |
| 05:19.44 | Kraps | the answer to all lore inconsistencies can be explained with pie |
| 05:19.54 | Shirik | or a lack thereof |
| 05:20.00 | Amarande | that specific spot was just a really bad place to put one. |
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| 05:20.20 | Amarande | because it directly interferes with the quests there in a way that none of the other portals I've encountered really do. |
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| 05:21.57 | Thunder_Child | Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 05:22.42 | Amarande | can we ever once, just even once, have a pre-expansion event that doesn't overshadow things to the point of interfering with normal leveling? |
| 05:23.01 | Shirik | asiief poaewf af aew jpoa jafejfaewaweae |
| 05:23.04 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:23.05 | Amarande | the LK pre event was even worse, with people even zombifying newbie areas |
| 05:23.09 | Shirik | my enter key stopped working |
| 05:23.13 | Shirik | except when I push ctrl+enter |
| 05:23.21 | Amarande | Shirik: are you sure you don't have ctrl or alt stuck on? |
| 05:23.34 | Shirik | d |
| 05:23.40 | Shirik | pretty sure |
| 05:23.52 | Shirik | ctrl+f still does what I expect it to do |
| 05:25.06 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: fail deal this week |
| 05:25.14 | Xinhuan | oh just wait till deathwing flies all over every zone and kills everything |
| 05:25.20 | Jamash | is there an easy way to check whether a character is attuned for MC? |
| 05:25.22 | Xinhuan | players, NPCs, questgivers and all |
| 05:25.39 | Jamash | Amarande: no |
| 05:25.53 | Mr_Rabies | <Jamash> is there an easy way to check whether a character is attuned for MC? |
| 05:25.59 | Mr_Rabies | jump in the lava in a raid group |
| 05:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | if you zone in success! |
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| 05:26.09 | Jamash | nice |
| 05:26.12 | Mr_Rabies | if not, enjoy swimming around |
| 05:26.13 | Shirik | hey tem |
| 05:26.14 | Amarande | Xinhuan: I thought that was supposed to be rare |
| 05:26.16 | Shirik | You know what would be cool |
| 05:26.17 | Amarande | hence why it's a FoS |
| 05:26.19 | Xinhuan | who knows |
| 05:26.20 | Amarande | if you get caught |
| 05:26.24 | tem | hey shirik |
| 05:26.24 | Shirik | If you weren't spamming my screen with "log on" "log off" :P |
| 05:26.25 | Xinhuan | i doubt it will be rare |
| 05:26.39 | Xinhuan | there's a lot of feat of strengths tat aren't rare at all |
| 05:26.43 | Sixen | hai xinhuan :P |
| 05:26.43 | Xinhuan | like obtaining a christmas pet |
| 05:26.49 | Xinhuan | ^^ |
| 05:27.02 | mikma | well |
| 05:27.05 | tem | Shirik, I got DCed while I was logging an alt to do an enchant |
| 05:27.12 | mikma | survuvung christmas is a feat of str |
| 05:27.22 | mikma | lololo surviving* |
| 05:27.27 | Jerub | my enchants aren't levelling |
| 05:27.28 | Shirik | ah :) |
| 05:27.28 | Jerub | :( |
| 05:27.32 | NeoTron | err how do you survey? Do I have to be in a archeology spot? |
| 05:27.38 | NeoTron | I learned it but see no survey ability |
| 05:27.40 | Xinhuan | as for the attunement question |
| 05:27.46 | Corey | so anybody here use auctioneer? i just installed it and ran a scan, its set to the defaults but when it tries to undercut it takes the price from 687 down to 324 when its set to 2% i believe |
| 05:27.47 | mikma | Jerub: buy a new enchanting level xD |
| 05:27.47 | Xinhuan | you can actually query for a list of completed quests |
| 05:27.52 | Xinhuan | and if the MC attunement quest is completed |
| 05:27.56 | Xinhuan | then the guy is attuned |
| 05:28.08 | Mr_Rabies | here's the weird thing though Xinhuan |
| 05:28.16 | Amarande | I almost read that as "just installed it and ran a scam" |
| 05:28.18 | Mr_Rabies | I'm attuned but he offers the quest to me still |
| 05:28.30 | Jamash | Xinhuan: know of an addon that simplifies that process? |
| 05:28.32 | Mr_Rabies | i did the old pre-blood elf quest i believe |
| 05:28.33 | Xinhuan | well its the only way |
| 05:28.37 | Mr_Rabies | or something |
| 05:28.38 | Xinhuan | code-wise |
| 05:28.44 | Xinhuan | so it may have false positives |
| 05:29.05 | Mr_Rabies | they've redone that damned attunement so many times i wouldn't be surprised if there was no easy way to tell |
| 05:29.21 | Corey | Amarande you know how to fix that or is there something better for just posting auctions quickly at a lower price? |
| 05:29.44 | NeoTron | ah guess survey is currently broken |
| 05:30.27 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: is that like CS:S with ww2 skins? |
| 05:30.38 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: more or less i think |
| 05:31.33 | Amarande | Corey: are the 687 auctions showing as yellow prices or red? |
| 05:31.45 | Xinhuan | use auctionator instead |
| 05:31.51 | Xinhuan | i suggest |
| 05:31.52 | Kraps | i hate cs:s |
| 05:32.01 | Amarande | if they're red, I would suspect that what happened there is that during the scan, there were ones for 340 or so, which sold while the scan took place |
| 05:32.19 | Amarande | which means it sees the market price based on those, when the only auctions left are the ones from the price gouger charging 687 |
| 05:32.42 | Thunder_Child | i rather enjoy CS:S |
| 05:33.23 | Amarande | Don't be a price gouger. Auctioneer feels 324 is actually fair, apparently. |
| 05:34.24 | NeoTron | guess jc dailies in cata appears to be crafting based too (cut 3 green gems sort of thing) |
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| 05:35.32 | Corey | Amarande mm yellow or red where? like if i search the AH myself for it or mouse over it it shows the buyout at that, like mouse over abyss crystal market price says x20 is 687 but if i try to drag it to the post tab it drops that to 324 |
| 05:36.03 | Amarande | Corey: I mean where it shows the % of market on the existing auctions. |
| 05:36.04 | Dagmar | Use the appraiser tab. |
| 05:36.11 | Amarande | And yeah, use the appraiser tab |
| 05:38.09 | Dagmar | It's right next to the Post tab. |
| 05:38.18 | Dagmar | You might want to actually load all the modules. |
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| 05:39.17 | Corey | Xinhuan that one doesnt show as 4.0.1 updated on wowi |
| 05:39.40 | Xinhuan | it still works |
| 05:39.45 | Xinhuan | why does it need updates? |
| 05:39.51 | Xinhuan | and did you check curse.com |
| 05:40.53 | Corey | i usually go to wowi first if an addon exists there ;\ |
| 05:41.40 | Shirik | my professor is forcing us to use Times New Roman |
| 05:41.42 | Shirik | why |
| 05:41.46 | Shirik | nobody uses this anymore |
| 05:42.00 | Arrowmaster | all teachers do |
| 05:42.29 | Kraps | Shirik: what then? |
| 05:42.44 | Hirsute | Aye, the rules are a little different if you're using the Post Tab. It's configuration is under the Utils->SimpleAuction section of the Auctioneer config. Appraiser tab is the one we'd encourage everyone using Auctioneer to use. There are other AH addons out there that suit different peoples needs differently. Happy to help with Auctioneer if you keep wanting help though. |
| 05:42.51 | Hirsute | Corey: ^ |
| 05:43.04 | Shirik | Kraps: Calibri is how it's done |
| 05:43.09 | Hirsute | psh |
| 05:43.13 | Hirsute | Comic Sans ftw. |
| 05:43.30 | Kraps | wingdings |
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| 05:44.18 | Shirik | sadly I know some wingdings |
| 05:44.19 | Amarande | you know what always seems odd to me about fonts? |
| 05:44.23 | Shirik | But it's Outlook's fault |
| 05:44.27 | Kraps | "Calibri is a humanist sans-serif typeface" humanist? |
| 05:44.28 | Shirik | I know that J == smiley face |
| 05:44.29 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: fuck Calibri, fuck that entire font family |
| 05:44.34 | Corey | ahh Hirsute what i did was get the auctioneer bundle instead of the suite so i didn't have that which i guess is the best thing to have |
| 05:44.37 | Amarande | why can't WoW's UI just access the list of fonts installed on the system, rather than require they be put in a special folder under WoW? |
| 05:44.38 | Shirik | because people use smiley faces all the time |
| 05:44.49 | Arrowmaster | that entire font family can fucking goto hell |
| 05:44.52 | Shirik | and outlook always pops up new messages in calibri in the bottom right |
| 05:45.05 | Shirik | so I'll see short messages that say something like "Bye J" |
| 05:45.07 | Hirsute | Corey: I absolutely recommend the suite. |
| 05:45.12 | Shirik | for the longest time I couldn't figure out what J was |
| 05:45.18 | Shirik | then I realized J in wingdings was a smiley face |
| 05:45.26 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Why |
| 05:45.46 | Arrowmaster | because the entire font family was designed for one reason alone, to promote cleartype |
| 05:46.01 | Arrowmaster | they all look like 100% pure ASS with cleartype disabled |
| 05:46.41 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Which font family? |
| 05:46.56 | Arrowmaster | the one Calibri is in |
| 05:47.05 | Arrowmaster | and Consolas |
| 05:47.13 | Hirsute | Ah |
| 05:47.13 | Jerub | sif smiley face. |
| 05:47.24 | Jerub | that's so par say |
| 05:47.46 | Jerub | what you really want is a smiling cat, with heart-shaped eyes |
| 05:47.50 | Jerub | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f63b/index.htm |
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| 06:00.05 | awweaver | So what is every one up to? |
| 06:00.34 | Jerub | wondering how to tell the girl at the coffee shop who seems to have a crush on me that i'm married. |
| 06:01.02 | awweaver | Ur wife told her |
| 06:01.08 | awweaver | or ring? |
| 06:01.30 | Kraps | Jerub: nothing wrong with a little on the side |
| 06:01.45 | Cairenn | 'bout 5'2", without my stilettos on |
| 06:02.14 | Jerub | i'm trying to think of how to explain this. |
| 06:02.26 | Kraps | open toes? |
| 06:02.35 | Jerub | i've been married long enough to realise that one woman is either too much or just enough. :) |
| 06:02.44 | Kraps | lol |
| 06:02.50 | Cairenn | nuh uh, over the knee, butter soft black leather boots |
| 06:03.07 | durcyn | you know better than to tell us this near bed time, Cairenn. |
| 06:03.10 | awweaver | *shudders inoluntarily* |
| 06:03.23 | Kraps | wont it be kind of awkward to go back after you do Jerub? |
| 06:03.42 | Cairenn | just ask any of the folks from BC, they saw me in them |
| 06:05.23 | Jerub | Kraps: well, that's part of the problem. |
| 06:05.31 | awweaver | BC? |
| 06:05.35 | Jerub | Kraps: she's a /very/ good barista. |
| 06:05.39 | Jerub | awweaver: blizzcon |
| 06:05.42 | Cairenn | BlizzCon |
| 06:05.44 | awweaver | ok |
| 06:05.47 | Kraps | how did this start anyway? |
| 06:05.56 | Jerub | 16:00 < awweaver> So what is every one up to? |
| 06:06.09 | Amarande | is wandering the wastes of Auchindoun |
| 06:06.19 | Kraps | no the crush |
| 06:06.22 | Shirik | So IT at school has this tool called "DeepFreeze" which restores the computer back to its image every morning to prevent bad things from being saved on there (like viruses) etc. |
| 06:06.27 | Amarande | and waiting to see if this heroic BM queue will ever, ever pop |
| 06:06.31 | Shirik | Yet we still have this virus running rampant around school like crazy |
| 06:06.48 | Shirik | A classmate and I figured it out today - the image IT distributed to all the computers.... has the virus on it |
| 06:06.55 | Cairenn | oi |
| 06:07.09 | Jerub | Kraps: because while one woman is enough for me, every woman has a space in their life for a jerub. i have to beat them off with a stick. |
| 06:07.11 | Shirik | And it's been this way for at least a year now |
| 06:07.15 | Amarande | Shirik: EPIC FAIL |
| 06:07.33 | Jerub | Shirik: awesome |
| 06:07.34 | Amarande | no wait, Epic does not even begin to describe that level of fail. That's Legendary level. |
| 06:07.38 | Kraps | suuuuure Jerub |
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| 06:08.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Shirik: I'd just go an laugh at the IT dept... |
| 06:08.36 | Jerub | Shirik: you're still at school? |
| 06:08.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Jerub: not everyone drops out like i did :P |
| 06:09.05 | cog|away | lua> local t = { "Mine", "Star", "World of War" }; print(t[math.random(#t)]) |
| 06:09.05 | lua_bot | cog|away: Mine |
| 06:09.11 | cog|away | ~botsnack |
| 06:09.11 | purl | :), cog|away |
| 06:09.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | didnt know you could feed the bot |
| 06:09.37 | Jerub | cog|away: noooo |
| 06:10.10 | Amarande | Eesh, there are some things to be said for doing Terokkar at 70 |
| 06:10.23 | Amarande | such as when some idiot results in half the Tomb of Lights being aggroed at you at once :P |
| 06:10.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so guys and girls : in a few minutes I am leaving for a 3 hr test of my languages for a job ... pray hard for me :P (for French) |
| 06:10.55 | Amarande | especially somewhere like the Tomb of Lights where a lot of the mobs are casters |
| 06:10.55 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I plan on doing it in half that time though |
| 06:11.03 | Hirsute | [22:06]<Amarande>and waiting to see if this heroic BM queue will ever, ever pop |
| 06:11.04 | Amarande | since when mobs are in the lowish green, their spells miss ridiculously often :) |
| 06:11.05 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Amarande: ouch |
| 06:11.07 | Kraps | friar tuck layin the smackdown on the frenchies |
| 06:11.10 | durcyn | bon chance, MoonWitch|Mobile |
| 06:11.13 | Hirsute | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I hear fiber helps with that |
| 06:11.23 | Amarande | Hirsute: I've been in the queue for about an hour now. |
| 06:11.31 | Jerub | Hirsute: YOU ARE A VERY BAD MAN |
| 06:11.37 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 06:12.00 | Hirsute | I spend far too much time talking to people about their BMs |
| 06:12.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | merci beaucoup durcyn, je suis trop nerveuse pour l'instant. (nervosit'e ne m'aide pas dans ce cas) |
| 06:12.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | alrighty gonna do makeup and that shit :P |
| 06:12.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | might be back |
| 06:12.59 | durcyn | whoa hey now, i haven't had to use my french in 10 years |
| 06:13.22 | durcyn | i'm pretty sure you just said something naughty though |
| 06:13.50 | Amarande | you know, the awesome thing about taking the scenic route when leveling is that I'm going to be filthy stinking rich at 85. |
| 06:14.05 | amro | she asked if you want to have hot sex |
| 06:14.26 | Jerub | Amarande: i got rich by 60 and retired, because i hit the AH periodically while levelling |
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| 06:16.04 | cog|away | Jerub: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/CMW.jpg |
| 06:16.47 | Jerub | cogwheel: i don't know minecraft. i just lost frineds to it |
| 06:16.57 | cogwheel | heh |
| 06:18.17 | Shirik | Jerub: I'm always at school |
| 06:18.21 | Shirik | Also, Word 2010 is awesome |
| 06:18.33 | Shirik | It can do citations for you automatically just by modifying an XSL file |
| 06:19.25 | Jerub | Shirik: meh, i used latex for all my real work |
| 06:19.31 | Jerub | er, papers |
| 06:19.44 | Shirik | I see no real value in that |
| 06:20.11 | Shirik | I think LaTeX was great when it was created |
| 06:20.15 | Arrowmaster | in what? latex? |
| 06:20.21 | Kraps | so the story in the robin hood movie is made up? |
| 06:20.26 | Shirik | But really we're beyond the point where we need to be "using computers" |
| 06:20.41 | Shirik | We need to start shifting to the point where computers understand us, not the other way around |
| 06:20.43 | Arrowmaster | last i heard the majority of scientific and mathematical papers were written using latex |
| 06:20.47 | Shirik | they are |
| 06:20.52 | Shirik | that doesn't mean it's a good thing |
| 06:21.06 | Arrowmaster | it does when its just about the only thing that can get them right |
| 06:21.17 | Shirik | no it doesn't |
| 06:21.22 | Shirik | it simply means it's the lesser of all evils |
| 06:21.27 | Shirik | (01:20:33) (@Shirik) We need to start shifting to the point where computers understand us, not the other way around |
| 06:21.53 | Arrowmaster | true, but a microsoft product is never going to do that |
| 06:22.54 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/11/10/race-changes-to-worgen-and-goblins-will-be-available-on-launch-n/ |
| 06:23.06 | Arrowmaster | how is that news? |
| 06:23.50 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1116854#blog |
| 06:25.54 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: That's a completely unjustified statement |
| 06:26.14 | Arrowmaster | i think its justified |
| 06:26.19 | Duman | yeah |
| 06:26.43 | Shirik | Most here will agree with you |
| 06:26.58 | Arrowmaster | i have one thing to back that up in why microsoft is incapable of making software that understands us |
| 06:27.01 | Arrowmaster | Clippy |
| 06:27.13 | Shirik | But that's because much of the software development community has become just as anti-microsoft as mac fanboys have |
| 06:27.26 | Arrowmaster | im anti-mac too |
| 06:27.28 | Shirik | then again most of the people in here also think the Linux kernel is good too |
| 06:27.40 | Shirik | so I'm not sure how much I should trust you guys about anything |
| 06:27.49 | Arrowmaster | i decline to comment on the linux kernel |
| 06:28.04 | Wobin | cogwheel: was that by hand =P |
| 06:28.10 | cogwheel | aye |
| 06:28.13 | Wobin | or did you use a mapping program |
| 06:28.34 | Wobin | You sir, have far too much time on your hands =P |
| 06:34.28 | cogwheel | now to find 164 pumpkins for better color accuracy... |
| 06:34.30 | cogwheel | (not) |
| 06:37.46 | Amarande | ok, when did it become possible to tell in advance whether an egg in Veil Lithic has a corrupted or a redeemable hatchling? |
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| 06:48.16 | Amarande | also, now that I think of it no wonder the queue for Black Morass is always so long |
| 06:48.33 | Amarande | not only is it a 70 instance that requires attunement, but it has an issue with what looks to be a bug |
| 06:48.37 | Amarande | I'm not sure if it's limited to BM |
| 06:48.49 | Amarande | but there seems to be a bug (don't know if it's new) where stealthed mobs count as aggroed on someone |
| 06:48.55 | Amarande | but do not reveal themselves or attack |
| 06:49.09 | Napoleone | ssc is bugged |
| 06:49.10 | Amarande | which causes all kinds of nasty issues in an instance (where mobs don't leash) due to people being In Combat and unable to determine even what with |
| 06:49.36 | Amarande | BM has all those cats in the area before the event proper that do it nearly every time |
| 06:50.31 | Amarande | I know this is the case because once before I decided to kill such a cat (when I could actually see it, since they're all stealthed) it would say "100% Threat" on the tooltip |
| 06:50.54 | Amarande | so apparently stealth mobs are aggroing but not attacking, and it's leaving people stuck in combat which in an instance like BM where you're meant to be able to take pit stops during the gauntlet after the bosses is NOT good |
| 06:52.55 | Amarande | is this a new bug, or have I just noticed it now? |
| 06:54.33 | Amarande | there's so many bugs in 4.0.1 that it's often hard to tell what's new, especially if you haven't done content in a while |
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| 07:07.50 | Fisker | omg |
| 07:10.57 | Fisker | let me destroy you Shirik |
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| 07:26.22 | Shirik | I think my professor has lost his mind |
| 07:26.35 | Shirik | Top and bottom margins should be 1ââ, right and left 7/16ââ |
| 07:26.44 | Shirik | Who the hell does 7/16" margins left/right |
| 07:27.14 | cbreak_work | tell your professor to specify units :) |
| 07:27.18 | Diadem | So.. how bad is it if I don't reuse frames, and instead just child:Hide() and child:setParent(nil)? Will the frame not get reaped? |
| 07:28.17 | cbreak_work | Diadem: they will get collected the next time you restart WoW |
| 07:28.23 | cbreak_work | relogging will do fine too |
| 07:28.38 | cbreak_work | just relog every few minutes, and you'll be perfectly fine. |
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| 07:28.57 | zenzio | Diadem: how often are you creating frames? |
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| 07:30.18 | Shirik | cbreak: What do you think the " is |
| 07:30.43 | cbreak_work | quotation mark |
| 07:30.45 | Amarande | 1440101 XP into 70. Still in Terokkar. What happened to Outland?! |
| 07:30.51 | Shirik | no |
| 07:30.52 | cbreak_work | aka double quotes |
| 07:30.54 | Shirik | that would be called "inches" |
| 07:31.11 | cbreak_work | hmm. |
| 07:31.37 | cbreak_work | never heard that |
| 07:32.12 | Shirik | really? |
| 07:32.14 | cbreak_work | using quotation characters for a unit seems bad :/... probably a pain to parse. |
| 07:32.24 | Shirik | You've never heard someone say their height is 6'3"? |
| 07:32.26 | Shirik | etc. |
| 07:32.28 | cbreak_work | maybe it's a different character with similar glyps |
| 07:32.34 | zenzio | Amarande: what are you doing in Terokkar at 70? |
| 07:32.43 | cbreak_work | I live in an SI country |
| 07:32.49 | Shirik | so |
| 07:32.55 | Shirik | Don't you use inches over there? |
| 07:32.59 | cbreak_work | I have not really encountered inches much, outside screens |
| 07:33.01 | Shirik | I mean America does so everyone must |
| 07:33.22 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M |
| 07:34.09 | cbreak_work | Amarande: it got boring, so much less experience to get. |
| 07:34.09 | Amarande | zenzio, I didn't even start outland on this toon till 64 |
| 07:34.36 | cbreak_work | also, doing areas at higher level gives less experience points |
| 07:35.27 | zenzio | only the kill XP though, quest reward XP is the same? |
| 07:36.09 | Amarande | it's hard to tell when you have +20% XP, unless stuff goes gray anyway |
| 07:36.25 | Amarande | hmm, if I keep doing Outland till it's done or everything goes gray, what level *will* I hit Northrend at? |
| 07:36.46 | Amarande | 70 goes gray at 78 ... is there really that much xp available in outland? |
| 07:36.57 | Amarande | actually, 70 goes gray at 79 |
| 07:37.13 | Amarande | hopefully I don't get quite that far, as it will make doing both BT and HF problematic |
| 07:37.30 | Amarande | I do rather like the small aggro radius though |
| 07:37.53 | zenzio | I went to Outland at... not sure if it was 58 or 60 on my last alt, roughly half a year ago. By the time I finished all solo quests (and small-group quests) in Outland I was roughly at 71.5 |
| 07:37.55 | Amarande | actually ... come to think of it, does the xp rate really decline that much when you consider all the unnecessary for quests mobs that you're not having to stop to fight? |
| 07:38.11 | Amarande | ah. so going at 64, probably ending up at 74 or so |
| 07:38.36 | zenzio | I don't think the comparison applies |
| 07:38.43 | zenzio | XP needed for >70 is much higher |
| 07:38.51 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:39.02 | cbreak_work | I started at 60, and had still plenty of quests left to do by the time I hit the cap |
| 07:39.09 | Fisker | why did you go into terokkar Amarande ? |
| 07:39.34 | Fisker | It's HFP->a few quests in zangarmarsh->Nagrand->maybe a few quests in netherstorm |
| 07:39.46 | Amarande | because I always do Outland in the order Hellfire->Zangar->Terokkar->Nagrand->BEM->Netherstorm->SMV |
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| 07:40.18 | Fisker | well then i might just have to destroy you |
| 07:40.36 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MJCvHMtwE4&NR=1 |
| 07:40.55 | Amarande | this is also the last time I ever accept anything from Wind Trader Zhareem. I think when dailies roll over I'm abandoning this one. |
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| 07:41.30 | zenzio | who is that again? |
| 07:42.19 | Amarande | zenzio: the guy who gives BC daily heroic quests |
| 07:42.34 | Amarande | Today, it was Black Morass. |
| 07:42.41 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 07:42.53 | Amarande | Which I figured, cool. I have to go there to finish the Kara key anyway, and shouldn't be too bad to find a group for heroic |
| 07:43.02 | Amarande | seeing as you automatically qualify for heroic CoT just by doing the basic chain |
| 07:43.39 | Amarande | ... I've been in queue for nearly 3 hours now. |
| 07:43.50 | zenzio | you're doing the Karazhan key because you want to, I assume? I seem to recall it's no longer necessary to enter |
| 07:44.27 | Amarande | zenzio: the whole raid doesn't need it, but one person still needs to have it to open the door |
| 07:44.44 | zenzio | really? I see |
| 07:45.02 | zenzio | UBRS-like then |
| 07:45.21 | Katawa | old urbs, currently there isn't even a door |
| 07:45.25 | Katawa | *ubrs |
| 07:45.27 | Amarande | also another interesting thing to pushing each tier of content as far as it will go |
| 07:45.42 | Amarande | ultimately, the further you wait for Outland or Northrend or 80+ Azeroth, the richer you will be in the end |
| 07:45.42 | zenzio | Katawa: hm, true |
| 07:46.05 | Amarande | because you'll 85 out with a metric ton of Cata content left to go |
| 07:47.24 | Xenofon | hey, has anyone downloaded and installed WoW lately from blizz's site? |
| 07:47.45 | Amarande | I wonder if there's going to be as ludicrously excess in "leveling quests" in 80+ Az as there was in Northrend |
| 07:48.06 | Amarande | in WotLK, if you did everything (at least getting the achievement before leaving each zone) and started at even 70 or 71 and did both BT and HF |
| 07:48.10 | Xenofon | I just did a full install on a new machine. It downloaded about 12.2 GB and installed, then I logged in and everything looked fine. Then I exited and relaunched, and now it's downloading another 4GB. |
| 07:48.14 | Amarande | you tended to hit 80 around late Grizzly or early Zul'Drak |
| 07:48.30 | Jerub | Amarande: only if you go completionist. |
| 07:48.34 | Amarande | Despite the fact that Zul'Drak and Sholazar in particular are considered "leveling zones", you basically NEVER get there before 80 unless you skip a LOT |
| 07:48.43 | Amarande | especially Sholazar |
| 07:49.31 | Amarande | also: if you have an heirloom weapon, the moment you ding 68 while questing outland you just start to CURBSTOMP |
| 07:49.39 | Amarande | even elites become nothing more than speed bumps |
| 07:49.55 | Amarande | every single Kara key fragment guardian for instance ... my warp stalker and I soloed |
| 07:50.10 | Amarande | it's literally almost 50% DPS boost dinging 68 |
| 07:50.27 | Amarande | the bow at least jumps from 84 to 119 |
| 07:54.40 | Amarande | the other heirloom weapons do that too? the only one I have is the 2H PvP sword, which I'm not sure when it will get used again since I don't plan on a warrior for a while, and my next Paladin isn't going Ret |
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| 07:57.52 | Amarande | really the main reason I have that sword at all is that at one point I started a warrior, but I deleted her when I did my great purge of low level underplayed alts |
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| 08:05.59 | Shirik | night night ~~~~ |
| 08:07.24 | TimboZero | Xenofon , streamer install ? |
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| 08:22.41 | adys_ | "Wired reports that some jackass built a robot that identifies human flesh as bacon. From their article titled âLet the robot holocaust commence: robots think we taste like baconâ" |
| 08:24.04 | Amarande | Adys: GIGO. :) |
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| 08:28.17 | adys_ | lol |
| 08:29.03 | Amarande | hmm, any idea if the heroic dailies change dungeons at the same time dailies reset? |
| 08:29.09 | Amarande | or is it around the time when heroics reset? |
| 08:32.13 | nebula169 | i'll be able to tell you in 30 minutes :p |
| 08:33.18 | Amarande | I'm wondering if the new daily BC heroic will still be BM if I abandon this one now or if it'll be something different |
| 08:33.31 | Amarande | (which I may as well pick up while I quest, as long as it's not Shattered Halls, Blood Furnace, or Hellfire Ramparts) |
| 08:33.43 | nebula169 | oh, assumed you ment bonus jps |
| 08:33.52 | nebula169 | haven't been to shatt in ages |
| 08:34.21 | nebula169 | you'll be able to turn it in if you complete it, just won't get the next one |
| 08:35.08 | nebula169 | but it'll most likely be something different, unless rng picks bm again |
| 08:35.37 | nebula169 | similar to the weekly raid quests |
| 08:35.53 | Amarande | I'm abandoning the heroic BM one and queuing for regular BM (I have to go there anyway for the Kara key) |
| 08:36.47 | Amarande | and it looks like I pick up the daily regular but not the heroic this time! |
| 08:36.54 | Amarande | since the heroic's in a Hellfire Citadel instance |
| 08:37.08 | airtonix | rages at visualbasic |
| 08:38.05 | airtonix | reminder : 340% stress fee for any project involving visualbasic |
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| 08:39.41 | Amarande | that should be BASIC in general airtonix :) |
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| 08:39.52 | Amarande | hmm, what's the stress fee if I hire a project involving Ada? :) |
| 08:40.02 | airtonix | i will kill you |
| 08:40.04 | Napoleone | hmm other tha wow addons. what can i use lua for ? |
| 08:40.26 | airtonix | Napoleone, pretty much anything on linux if you have the lua binaries |
| 08:40.40 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.48 | airtonix | #! * |
| 08:41.38 | airtonix | if you have "Scripting for Android" on an Android phone you can also install Lua and have scripts use all the Android API |
| 08:41.48 | Napoleone | nice |
| 08:41.57 | airtonix | same for Beans, Python and Bash |
| 08:42.00 | Amarande | airtonix: don't like Ada? :) |
| 08:42.25 | Napoleone | btw not a scripting question.. are there a good quality graphical engine that i can make my own "world(only)" |
| 08:42.42 | Napoleone | i have on my wall a map that me and a buddy drew a year ago. |
| 08:42.44 | Xenofon | Hi people, I have a very basic question. I have been away from WoW for about 18 months, and I no longer know the state of current addons. I am looking for basically 3 addons - one to customize the interface, one to set up my action bars, and one for bags/bank. Could someone tell me which the most popular and capable and bug-free addons are available for those 3 things? |
| 08:42.48 | Napoleone | I'd like to visualize it ;P |
| 08:42.57 | airtonix | Napoleone, depends. |
| 08:43.07 | Napoleone | bags = bagnon |
| 08:43.14 | Xenofon | ok, I remember that one |
| 08:43.14 | Napoleone | define customize the ui ;P |
| 08:43.22 | Napoleone | setup action bars. isnt that part of the first ;P |
| 08:43.25 | Xenofon | be able to move everything in the interface around |
| 08:43.32 | Amarande | hmm, do I feel like freezing at 75. |
| 08:43.33 | Xenofon | well, I used two different ones before |
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| 08:43.48 | Napoleone | bartender and moveeverything i recon ;P |
| 08:43.52 | Napoleone | if they are updated ofc |
| 08:43.53 | Xenofon | I recall using something called xperl maybe for the interface, and one called actionbars for the other. |
| 08:44.05 | Napoleone | aaah thats not ui ;P thats unitframes mod |
| 08:44.10 | Xenofon | right |
| 08:44.11 | Napoleone | xperl, ag_uf |
| 08:44.22 | Xenofon | it allows you to move interface elements as you like, right? |
| 08:44.35 | Napoleone | hmm let me get the name of that move all thing |
| 08:44.59 | Xenofon | also, what are the best collected sites for downloading addons these days? |
| 08:45.06 | Napoleone | curse and its client |
| 08:45.10 | Xenofon | which contain lots of addons with user comments etc. |
| 08:45.12 | Xenofon | ah ok |
| 08:45.50 | Napoleone | MoveAnything enables you to move, scale, hide and adjust transparency of just about any screen element in WoW |
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| 08:46.03 | Xenofon | it's like xperl then, is it better than xperl? |
| 08:46.10 | airtonix | lolxperl |
| 08:46.17 | Napoleone | with the new raid and party frames from blizzard. that are movveable and awesome in my pinion ;P |
| 08:46.25 | airtonix | pitbull is where its at tbh |
| 08:46.27 | Napoleone | lol Moveanything is a UI mod.. |
| 08:46.41 | Napoleone | airtonix thats totally your opinion |
| 08:46.48 | airtonix | No... its the LAW |
| 08:46.54 | Napoleone | if I'm to use a UF mod.. probably Ag_uf for me |
| 08:46.56 | airtonix | AND YOU WILL SUBMIT! |
| 08:46.56 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 08:47.04 | Napoleone | but but but.. I AM THE LAAAWAWAAWAW |
| 08:47.16 | airtonix | Noone is above the law |
| 08:47.18 | Xenofon | can you tell me what the difference is between xperl and moveanything? they do different things? |
| 08:47.23 | Amarande | sooo ... now that anzu is a permanent boss, wonder how many people will freeze at 75 to get the mount before going on? |
| 08:47.33 | Napoleone | xperl is a UNITFRAME basically player target party raid. |
| 08:47.41 | unfo- | Amarande, freeze at 75? |
| 08:47.45 | Napoleone | moveanything is just a mod that enables you to MOVE stuff around |
| 08:47.47 | zenzio | http://i.imgur.com/rlNyh.png o_O |
| 08:47.53 | Xenofon | ok, thanks |
| 08:48.05 | unfo- | zenzio, i saw that, it was awesome! |
| 08:48.16 | Amarande | unfo: stop XP, because 75 is the last level that you can queue for BC heroics at |
| 08:48.40 | unfo- | Amarande, >> implying you could not solo at 80+ ? |
| 08:48.45 | Napoleone | zenzio LOL nice one |
| 08:48.47 | Amarande | unfo: maybe past 80 |
| 08:48.52 | Amarande | at 80, probably depends on the class |
| 08:48.59 | unfo- | Amarande, i grinded my anzu mount solo on my druid :) |
| 08:48.59 | Amarande | I've seen well geared 80s that have trouble with UBRS, in some classes |
| 08:49.32 | Amarande | Haven't tried Sethekk yet, but I know on my DK in mostly 264 a lot of BC heroic stuff is still a real pain in the ass |
| 08:49.39 | Amarande | like basically having to eat after almost every pull |
| 08:49.52 | Amarande | or maybe mana tombs is just particularly vile? heh |
| 08:49.59 | greppy | waves at unfo- |
| 08:50.05 | unfo- | casts Vanish |
| 08:50.21 | Amarande | wonder if you can solo farm hilts at 85? |
| 08:50.21 | unfo- | Amarande, yeah for non-stealh classes the mind ctrl mobs are pain! |
| 08:50.27 | greppy | /use [@focus] Death Grip |
| 08:50.35 | Amarande | unfo: actually, mind control mobs are only a problem for pet classes |
| 08:50.46 | Amarande | mobs that MC will not cast it if you are completely solo |
| 08:51.12 | Amarande | I'm actually not even sure the Inciter in Shadow Labs will. (Mainly because I think I might have burned him down so quickly that he may not have had a chance to reach the time he casts it at) |
| 08:51.12 | unfo- | Amarande, oh, didn't know that |
| 08:51.49 | msoul | unfo-: get those first |
| 08:51.54 | msoul | time lost iirc their names |
| 08:51.56 | Napoleone | Amarande thats the fun part in BC hc's.. the bosses.. I WILL OWN YOU.. and they die before the dam yell is complete ;P |
| 08:52.05 | unfo- | msoul, yeah, i haz anzu ^^ |
| 08:52.13 | msoul | gratz |
| 08:52.18 | msoul | still farming it |
| 08:52.22 | msoul | on my dk/pala |
| 08:52.33 | Amarande | in any case, bosses aren't really the problem in BC heroics so far that I've seen |
| 08:52.35 | Amarande | it's the trash |
| 08:52.36 | msoul | I died few times when I tried my lock at anzu and didn't bother |
| 08:52.42 | msoul | was soloing as a lock |
| 08:52.42 | Amarande | the trash hits like trucks, and I have to eat pretty much every pull like I said |
| 08:52.50 | Amarande | but the only one I've tried so far is Mana Tombs, and that may be one of the hardest |
| 08:52.55 | msoul | was playing as destro... should try as demo |
| 08:52.55 | Napoleone | gonna start farming it again |
| 08:53.19 | Napoleone | whats the blizzard bullshit they ahve done with anzu |
| 08:53.22 | Napoleone | anyone can farm it |
| 08:53.23 | msoul | I can't remember the dungeon name |
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| 08:53.37 | Napoleone | seth halls? |
| 08:53.38 | msoul | you know the boss that makes your abilities take ages to cast something |
| 08:53.44 | Napoleone | aaah |
| 08:53.47 | msoul | the fight on stairs |
| 08:53.48 | Napoleone | auch crypts |
| 08:54.00 | msoul | man I hated it |
| 08:54.13 | Napoleone | dots ftw |
| 08:54.29 | msoul | but to be fair I enjoy bc over wotlk |
| 08:54.33 | msoul | I still do |
| 08:54.37 | Amarande | that eye boss? makes me glad I'm currently playing a hunter. |
| 08:55.28 | Napoleone | hah |
| 08:55.31 | msoul | will farm steamvault later on |
| 08:55.41 | msoul | down with 12k to hit exalted on my alt |
| 08:55.41 | Napoleone | try an aggroing boomkin... moonfire. ins swarm.. starfall.. its dead |
| 08:55.56 | msoul | I play lock/mage these days |
| 08:56.00 | Napoleone | i need to farm MC and shit to get exalted on thorium brotherhood |
| 08:56.06 | msoul | and farm anzu on pala/dk |
| 08:56.30 | msoul | my warr is just to craft items these days or whever I feel like tanking |
| 08:57.13 | msoul | was actually trying inline auras last night |
| 08:57.49 | msoul | pretty neat... would be nice if it does some sort of a reminder of "re-apply your dot" blinkingn or something like that |
| 08:57.53 | msoul | Jamash: you there? |
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| 09:03.33 | Napoleone | hmm interresting question |
| 09:04.10 | Napoleone | if i create a frame. and just have a setpoint on it.. i can still use that as a parent right for alinging other stuff. or does it need a width and height |
| 09:04.29 | Jamash | MSOUL: SORT OF |
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| 09:04.35 | Jamash | woops caps |
| 09:05.08 | msoul | Jamash: was trying inline auras last night... neat |
| 09:05.11 | Jamash | cool |
| 09:05.34 | msoul | I didn't play wit hthe settings much |
| 09:05.57 | msoul | as sometimes I need to recolor the borders in an ability i.e. living bomb |
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| 09:06.05 | Jamash | I would talk about it some more but I zzzzzzz |
| 09:06.13 | msoul | oh right |
| 09:06.23 | msoul | it's 11:05 Am here :-) |
| 09:06.31 | Jamash | 04:06 |
| 09:06.53 | msoul | you better hit the sack |
| 09:07.33 | Napoleone | grr |
| 09:07.42 | Napoleone | 1 hour till servers are up |
| 09:08.17 | greppy | ? |
| 09:08.22 | msoul | eu |
| 09:08.39 | greppy | ah |
| 09:08.54 | greppy | just lives 3rd shift. |
| 09:09.07 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 09:09.14 | Napoleone | did the event progresS? |
| 09:09.18 | Napoleone | us people ;P |
| 09:09.25 | Napoleone | is the town under elemental siege now? |
| 09:09.50 | greppy | there are more quests |
| 09:09.55 | greppy | those started a day or so ago |
| 09:10.08 | Napoleone | with the search people ? and shit? |
| 09:10.36 | greppy | not sure, I haven't done any of the new ones yet |
| 09:10.41 | Napoleone | hehe whoot finally ;P |
| 09:11.28 | msoul | would take about less than 5 minutes to complete them |
| 09:11.39 | nev-mobile | It would appear there is a new badge every monday |
| 09:11.57 | Napoleone | badge? |
| 09:11.59 | msoul | with thry tell what you'll get from completing them |
| 09:12.00 | nev-mobile | The new ones from this week were kinda fun, but only 2 quests to complete |
| 09:12.08 | msoul | yeah |
| 09:12.19 | msoul | I liked the second one |
| 09:12.24 | msoul | can't remember what's it called |
| 09:12.42 | Napoleone | get achievs ;P |
| 09:12.58 | Napoleone | on ptr they had em all in one go lol was fun |
| 09:13.11 | nev-mobile | Guarding the messenger or hunting the green elementals? |
| 09:13.34 | msoul | guarding |
| 09:14.05 | Amarande | Napoleone, our Phase 2 started Monday |
| 09:14.08 | Amarande | and added just a couple more cult quests |
| 09:14.23 | Napoleone | nice |
| 09:14.32 | Napoleone | not pure elemental invasion events yet? |
| 09:14.41 | nev-mobile | Wowhead has a timeline, according to that, next week the elemental invasion continues |
| 09:14.49 | Napoleone | where org gets totally taken over and you have to run around and save people and kill elementals ;P |
| 09:14.54 | Napoleone | whoot nice |
| 09:15.00 | Amarande | man |
| 09:15.02 | Amarande | I just did mech |
| 09:15.19 | Amarande | and I finally got the sword (of course, on my hunter) that I remember having always wanted on my warlock back in BC when I used to go there on her |
| 09:15.20 | msoul | me need khorium ore :/ |
| 09:15.25 | Amarande | and now it's just eight more gold in the bank |
| 09:15.29 | Amarande | all loveliness fades, I guess :) |
| 09:15.39 | Napoleone | i did rend the other nigjt |
| 09:15.40 | Napoleone | night |
| 09:15.48 | Napoleone | he dropped Both of the weapons ;P |
| 09:17.06 | Napoleone | if i make a template function in lua. if i have local framename = CreateFrame("Frame", name, parent) its name would be "name" and not framename |
| 09:17.15 | Napoleone | on the global state |
| 09:17.27 | Napoleone | just making sure ;P |
| 09:17.57 | Amarande | heh once when I ran ZF on a high level I finally saw the sword from the basilisk guy |
| 09:18.15 | Napoleone | hah |
| 09:18.24 | Napoleone | gotta love the delayed drops ;P |
| 09:18.54 | Napoleone | what they should do is make all dungeons soloable. but drop low loot. and if in group then good loot. then if raid. then epic loots. |
| 09:19.04 | Napoleone | so if the queue is killing you.. just farm some solo ;P |
| 09:19.15 | Napoleone | would love to see WC as 85 heroic |
| 09:20.30 | msoul | iirc from a video you'd end up being a spider man in there |
| 09:21.04 | Amarande | hmm, I can actually grab the old 70 pvp helm, and it's an upgrade |
| 09:21.28 | Amarande | except ... it has a meta socket |
| 09:21.37 | Amarande | which means I have to use a meta gem at 70 lol |
| 09:22.05 | Amarande | also a strange stat bug. not that it matters since spirit is useless to hunters, but an apparent bug nonetheless |
| 09:22.34 | Amarande | I have +4 All Stats on my chest piece, and the only other piece of gear I have Spirit on is my bracers (because I socketed agi and that activated a +2 spirit socket bonus by coincidence) |
| 09:22.41 | Amarande | ... it says I have +5 Spirit from gear on my stats. :) |
| 09:23.46 | Napoleone | lol |
| 09:23.54 | Amarande | where'd the other point go? |
| 09:24.06 | Napoleone | i love the new tooltip my deathknight... int and spirit has.. this stats is worthless to you |
| 09:24.18 | Amarande | also: agi is the proper stat to stack on hunter now right? |
| 09:24.20 | Amarande | not AP? |
| 09:24.23 | Napoleone | ye |
| 09:24.35 | Napoleone | like all spellcasters int = 2 spellpower |
| 09:24.54 | Napoleone | my nieblung was really crappy after the patch lol... i missed the spellpower lol |
| 09:25.40 | Amarande | I sometimes wonder if Nibelung might be particularly useful for setting foot in Hyjal, though |
| 09:25.50 | Amarande | as a squishy, those valks probably will really help a lot? |
| 09:26.05 | Napoleone | lol ye |
| 09:26.12 | Napoleone | 1-2k dps from each valkyrie |
| 09:26.13 | Amarande | I hear stuff in Hyjal pretty much hits like the Mana Tombs heroic trash hits my DK now :) |
| 09:26.15 | Napoleone | it helps |
| 09:26.29 | Amarande | am I about right on that? :) |
| 09:26.41 | Napoleone | ye i would say ;P |
| 09:26.56 | Amarande | I have a feeling then I'm going to Hyjal on the DK with my DPS weapons but my tank armor :) |
| 09:27.37 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 09:28.11 | Napoleone | OFC my realm is still down ;P |
| 09:30.25 | Amarande | you broke it |
| 09:30.33 | Napoleone | havent even tried to login |
| 09:32.01 | Amarande | ok, is this AH lag a new anti-RMT measure or is this just lag? |
| 09:32.13 | Amarande | I've noticed it for a few months now. When you buy something it takes a minute or so for the item to appear in your inbox. |
| 09:32.23 | Amarande | There's been the hour delay on gold when you SELL for a long while |
| 09:32.36 | Amarande | but I'm beginning to become convinced there's a delay to allow for anti-RMT emergency measures on buying now too :| |
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| 09:49.44 | Amarande | yay, my spider has been placed in the stable ... forever, probably |
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| 09:49.54 | dusf | does anyone know if wow is now running better under linux w/ wine because there have been some opengl changes for cata? i used to get 4/5 fps in dalaran with my geforce 7300 le and 1gb ram |
| 09:50.43 | nev-mobile | Thats a slow system no matter what |
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| 09:51.47 | bluspacecow | what gxApi settings can you get in linux > |
| 09:52.03 | bluspacecow | ie start up wow in console mode |
| 09:52.19 | nev-mobile | Also, opengl hasnt really been enhanced, short of adding opengl cursors. Dx9 has been greatly improved though and supposedly runs acceptable on linux now |
| 09:52.53 | nev-mobile | Opengl hardware cursors* |
| 09:52.57 | bluspacecow | GLL still runs like a dog |
| 09:53.19 | bluspacecow | isn't there a Dx11 option now ? |
| 09:53.39 | nev-mobile | Yea, but wine doesnt offer dx11 yet |
| 09:53.54 | nev-mobile | Not in a working state anyway |
| 09:53.56 | bluspacecow | oh right |
| 09:54.13 | adys_ | nev-mobile |
| 09:54.14 | adys_ | you use qt? |
| 09:54.44 | mikma_ | quality testicles |
| 09:54.45 | nev-mobile | Use as in? I have some apps that use qt |
| 09:55.09 | adys_ | Im trying to port notify-osd to qt |
| 09:55.19 | adys_ | and Im weeping at the gtk+cairo code |
| 09:55.24 | adys_ | and by weeping, i mean weeping puke |
| 09:55.56 | nev-mobile | I only did some low level dev against Qt, nothing UI-ish |
| 09:56.02 | mikma_ | Puking out of you ass |
| 09:56.02 | adys_ | mmk |
| 09:56.09 | adys_ | yes mikma_ |
| 09:56.25 | adys_ | my tears are made of stomach fluids and are coming out of my ass, that sums up well the sort of code Im reading right now |
| 09:56.38 | nev-mobile | Isnt there something like that in kde already? |
| 09:56.47 | mikma_ | so, you like the code |
| 09:56.57 | adys_ | nev-mobile, Yeah, but it's ugly |
| 09:57.25 | adys_ | http://pkpatel88.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/snapshot12.png?w=462&h=148 |
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| 09:58.27 | mikma_ | iLol |
| 09:59.09 | nev-mobile | Im not a big fan of kde overall. I like the simplicity of xfce, but i would also like some UI that looks more like from this century. :P |
| 09:59.22 | nev-mobile | There is nothing perfect |
| 09:59.27 | nev-mobile | :( |
| 09:59.29 | zenzio | E17 |
| 09:59.33 | zenzio | it's probably right around the corner now! |
| 10:00.05 | unfo- | <trollface>OS X?</trollface> |
| 10:00.21 | zenzio | I don't think OS X runs very well on Linux |
| 10:00.32 | adys_ | osx sucks! it doesnt even use wayland! |
| 10:00.54 | greppy | isn't there a gnome theme to look like OS X? |
| 10:01.08 | nev-mobile | Gnome already looks osx-ish |
| 10:01.40 | greppy | yeah, but macbuntu makes it look REALLY like os x :) |
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| 10:23.31 | Maldivia | *grumble* |
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| 10:53.19 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/11/09/funny-pictures-intruder-detected/ |
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| 11:07.03 | Napoleone | lol nice pic |
| 11:07.08 | Napoleone | or nice comments |
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| 11:13.17 | zenzio | heh... http://i.imgur.com/BITmX.jpg |
| 11:13.46 | Napoleone | that pic is sooooo true lol |
| 11:13.59 | Napoleone | we arent rats in a mace.. we are rats in a corridor lol |
| 11:14.20 | Napoleone | what about MC thats not just one long hallway.. that actually demands people running around ;P |
| 11:20.23 | foxlit | What's the 1993 map? |
| 11:21.45 | Napoleone | a base in quake or doom 2 i guess ;P |
| 11:21.48 | zenzio | I don't know, only found the link directly to the image |
| 11:21.51 | zenzio | but it seems familiar somehow |
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| 11:22.13 | Napoleone | looks alot like doom |
| 11:26.56 | industrial | I always wanted to memorize every mob in games like duke3d |
| 11:27.13 | industrial | and then kill them all on sight when jumping from around the corner |
| 11:27.18 | industrial | pre-aiming xD |
| 11:30.33 | Napoleone | when i run shooter games i preaim up stairs and shit |
| 11:30.45 | Napoleone | for me something logical but my friends think its wierd |
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| 11:36.28 | adys_ | Cairenn|afk ! |
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| 11:50.56 | Napoleone | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:52.17 | Napoleone | NVM |
| 11:52.24 | Napoleone | my brain stopped working lol |
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| 12:05.50 | Fisker | so haste |
| 12:05.52 | Fisker | what say you? |
| 12:06.49 | nev-mobile | So fisker, 2600K, yes? |
| 12:08.08 | foxlit | 2.6 million? |
| 12:10.09 | Fisker | old nev-mobile |
| 12:10.48 | nev-mobile | Its not old, its not even released! |
| 12:12.53 | Fisker | still old |
| 12:15.22 | nev-mobile | I still want one |
| 12:15.53 | nev-mobile | Stupid 8 core is taking too long |
| 12:20.16 | Fisker | same |
| 12:20.26 | Fisker | EFI + 3,4GHz Quad Core > X58 :( |
| 12:20.32 | Fisker | but X68 is going to be awesome |
| 12:21.26 | nev-mobile | I dunno why people complain about the locked fsb, multiplicator overclocking seems easier todo. :d |
| 12:22.18 | Fisker | there's no fsb! |
| 12:23.16 | nev-mobile | There is the 100mhz base clock that you cant modify anymore, whatever you want to call it |
| 12:24.47 | Fisker | But it's pretty simple though |
| 12:24.59 | Fisker | When you change the FSB, everything runs faster as an result |
| 12:25.08 | Fisker | changing the multiplier only affects the cpu |
| 12:25.22 | nev-mobile | Yeah, but some components dont like running faster |
| 12:25.40 | Fisker | hence overclocking |
| 12:25.59 | nev-mobile | And in the end, you only want to increase memory and cpu anyway |
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| 12:33.45 | Napoleone | is there a way to sort the order of multiple textures on a frame |
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| 12:42.06 | mitch0 | yes |
| 12:42.52 | mitch0 | there's a new param for SetTexture() afaik, subLevel, subLayer, something like that |
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| 12:50.56 | jnwhiteh | GAH |
| 12:50.57 | jnwhiteh | source code |
| 12:51.00 | jnwhiteh | source code |
| 12:51.02 | jnwhiteh | not source codes |
| 12:51.04 | jnwhiteh | cries |
| 12:51.42 | Maldivia | o...k... |
| 12:51.50 | nev-mobile | Sauce codes |
| 12:51.58 | Maldivia | gravy |
| 12:52.03 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 12:52.07 | jnwhiteh | it just makes me insane! |
| 12:52.09 | jnwhiteh | I dont know why |
| 12:52.14 | jnwhiteh | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/ |
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| 12:58.58 | Maldivia | and from now on he'll be known as the twinkie professor... |
| 13:00.04 | unfo- | jnwhiteh, oh shi- |
| 13:04.24 | Humbedooh | Napoleone: tex:SetDrawLayer(major, minor) with major being either "BACKGROUND", "ARTWORK", "BORDER", "HIGHLIGHT" or "OVERLAY" and minor being an integral value between -7 and 8 |
| 13:05.35 | adys_ | shows jnwhiteh his codes right at the source |
| 13:05.58 | jnwhiteh | you know that turns me on! |
| 13:06.08 | Cide | I'll source your codes |
| 13:10.54 | jnwhiteh | read the image caption: http://www.omg-facts.com/view/Facts/17176 |
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| 13:22.05 | zenzio | okay, seriously... where do I turn off page previews in Google? |
| 13:22.24 | mitch0 | use the address bar |
| 13:22.41 | mitch0 | ah, the _new_ thing |
| 13:22.42 | zenzio | mitch0: how so? |
| 13:23.04 | mitch0 | sorry, didn't know that already went live and mixed it up with the "on-the-fly-results" thing |
| 13:23.28 | nev-mobile | I liked that new thing, i think its neat. :D |
| 13:23.43 | mitch0 | never even noticed it as I always search from the url bar |
| 13:23.56 | mitch0 | zenzio: I don't have page previews |
| 13:24.07 | nev-mobile | Only works at home, not from work |
| 13:24.09 | zenzio | mitch0: they randomly appeared for me now |
| 13:24.23 | nev-mobile | Maybe only in chrome? I dunno |
| 13:24.28 | mitch0 | nev: ah, figures. I'm at work now, too |
| 13:24.35 | mitch0 | :P |
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| 13:25.19 | mitch0 | searched for freebsd just to test, google ad: "Google is Hiring, Unix/Linux Gurus for System Admin" |
| 13:25.36 | mitch0 | dublin, london (if anyone's interested) |
| 13:25.40 | zenzio | hm, I see now... if I click on the preview text of a result, it seems to pop up the preview |
| 13:25.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi! |
| 13:25.51 | zenzio | then it follows the mouse until I click it away |
| 13:25.56 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:26.01 | mitch0 | zenzio: well, then don't click it ;) |
| 13:26.23 | nev-mobile | Right. I thought i saw it open automatically before |
| 13:26.44 | zenzio | mitch0: I won't now that I know |
| 13:26.49 | nev-mobile | Maybe i just clicked |
| 13:26.54 | zenzio | but I'd still like a setting to disable it entirely |
| 13:27.02 | mitch0 | hm. nothing happens when I click |
| 13:27.15 | mitch0 | although I have that on-the-fly-thing disabled, too apparently |
| 13:27.22 | zenzio | it's possible they're just pushing it to some clients |
| 13:27.29 | zenzio | gradual rollout or something |
| 13:27.47 | nev-mobile | Like with instant |
| 13:27.48 | zenzio | oh, I also don't want "instant results", thankfully I've never had those |
| 13:28.00 | nev-mobile | Those you can turn off |
| 13:28.09 | nev-mobile | I like the feature however |
| 13:28.18 | alestane | purrs for Lopeppeppy. |
| 13:28.36 | nev-mobile | The previews are neat but kinda useless |
| 13:29.26 | zenzio | technically I think they're cool |
| 13:29.34 | zenzio | but I don't want to use them \o/ |
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| 13:30.44 | mitch0 | tries out the "subscribed links" feature (whatever that is) |
| 13:35.19 | mitch0 | it's kinda borked |
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| 13:35.43 | mitch0 | double-escapes ? at some place thus man.cgi?lala borks |
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| 13:41.24 | Lunessa | station! |
| 13:41.33 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Lunessa! Early day today? |
| 13:41.34 | sioraiocht | heya mikma |
| 13:41.37 | alestane | THe station's running ahead this morning. |
| 13:42.29 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Yes, very early. We're short-handed on the early shift due to jury duty. |
| 13:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof. *big hug and big coffee* |
| 13:47.24 | Fisker | nev-mobile |
| 13:47.29 | Fisker | should i get a galaxy tab? |
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| 13:51.40 | Kraps | "1775 â The United States Marine Corps was founded as the Continental Marines by a resolution of the Second Continental Congress during the American Revolutionary War." |
| 13:52.01 | Kraps | november 10 |
| 13:54.38 | adys_ | Fisker, htc desire |
| 13:54.40 | adys_ | \o/ |
| 13:56.54 | Fisker | htc desire isn't a tablet :( |
| 13:56.59 | Fisker | also i got something better than htc desire |
| 13:57.31 | adys_ | no you dont |
| 13:58.38 | adys_ | So I'm faced with a dilemma |
| 13:59.44 | adys_ | A friend and I figured out a huge security flaw on the current wow servers, but I can't test it for two weeks more |
| 13:59.50 | adys_ | do I report or do I wait. hrm. |
| 14:00.32 | nev-mobile | You got banned for two weeks trying the first time? |
| 14:00.55 | adys_ | no, im not home |
| 14:01.25 | nev-mobile | Report it anyway |
| 14:02.06 | adys_ | but itll be fixed before i get back home |
| 14:02.07 | adys_ | :( |
| 14:02.12 | mitch0 | that reminds me of an entry in #unix's faq |
| 14:02.19 | mitch0 | lemme check |
| 14:02.50 | mitch0 | http://get.a.clue.de/faq.html#34 <- this one ;) |
| 14:03.01 | adys_ | haha |
| 14:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Is it not good to have things fixed while you're not waiting for them? |
| 14:03.50 | nev-mobile | He probably wants to use it some first |
| 14:04.17 | adys_ | What's wrong with wanting to abuse a security flaw before reporting it >.> |
| 14:04.31 | nev-mobile | It just is! |
| 14:04.52 | adys_ | :( fine |
| 14:05.02 | mitch0 | adys: nevermind, your account is already watched. just got the reply from blizz |
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| 14:05.19 | Lunessa | muwahahaha |
| 14:07.30 | Napoleone | hmm anyone know the function to get current eclipse energy? |
| 14:09.11 | Fisker | i do adys_ |
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| 14:09.26 | Fisker | what's the flaw btw? |
| 14:09.46 | Maldivia | Napoleone: UnitPower |
| 14:09.51 | adys_ | your sister is the flaw |
| 14:10.59 | Kraps | # Power Word: Barrier duration reduced to 10 sec, down from 25 sec. No longer absorbs a given amount of damage, now reduces all damage done to friendly targets by 30%. While within the barrier, spellcasting will not be interrupted by damage. nerf |
| 14:11.11 | Kraps | # Grace now increases all healing received from the Priest by 4/8%, up from 2/4%. buff |
| 14:11.26 | foxlit | Hm, Barrier change looks good. |
| 14:11.30 | Kraps | Divine Aegis now also procs from all heals from Prayer of Healing. whatever |
| 14:11.33 | Maldivia | Kraps: depends how you look at it, PW:B looks like a buff to me |
| 14:11.34 | foxlit | From where I'm standing. |
| 14:11.55 | Lopeppeppy | I can't wait to re-roll Peppy as a priestess... |
| 14:12.17 | Kraps | foxlit: you sure? |
| 14:12.32 | foxlit | Yes. Iirc, barrier vanishes too quickly now. |
| 14:12.35 | Maldivia | -30% damage to an entire raid is far better than the old version |
| 14:12.46 | foxlit | And -30% is like a free shield wall for everyone -- think Rotface |
| 14:12.54 | alestane | Too long have the gnomes been denied their healing opportunities? |
| 14:12.58 | foxlit | or Festergut. Or Something. |
| 14:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | seriously, alestane. I always said I'd re-roll her if a gnomish healer class were offered. |
| 14:13.37 | Lopeppeppy | Just think of tiny Peppy casting a shielding over an entire raid! Imagine the power!!!! |
| 14:13.40 | Lopeppeppy | *ahem* |
| 14:14.10 | foxlit | However, you'll now have priests rotating barriers on tanks on Sartharion-4.0. |
| 14:14.16 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: whats funny is that the core disc "rotation" hasent changed at all |
| 14:14.25 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: but if the barrier is scaled to gnome size, it won't shield many :/ |
| 14:14.34 | Lopeppeppy | Bite me, Maldivia. :P |
| 14:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I have a shadow priest at level... 60ish, but in all honesty, my experience with priest healing is in the negative zone. I'm looking forward to learning to heal with actual... spell choices! |
| 14:15.26 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I too look forward to our new gnomish healers... |
| 14:15.41 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: rerolling, or race changeing ? |
| 14:16.06 | Lopeppeppy | Not sure, Maldivia. I may just race-change Moira, to have the start at level 60 and not the entire grind. |
| 14:16.15 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles Lunessa goodly. |
| 14:16.44 | mitch0 | but it will be all new quests and shattered zones and stuff |
| 14:16.45 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: well, the 1-60 level experience is really great now though |
| 14:16.53 | Lunessa | I'm planing to race-change my priest to gnome as well, 'because ... why wouldn't I? Gnomes are AWESOME. |
| 14:17.22 | Lopeppeppy | *squee* More gnomes! |
| 14:17.35 | Lopeppeppy | Maldivia, it's also still *time* to get leveled up. |
| 14:17.37 | alestane | I would make a gnomish priest, but I want my priest on Kirin Tor to be a worgen. |
| 14:17.57 | Maldivia | hmm... do gnomes still have the expansive mind racial? |
| 14:18.04 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 14:18.12 | Maldivia | or was it change to mana instead of int now? |
| 14:18.20 | Lunessa | Worgen preiest look cool too. |
| 14:18.32 | Maldivia | I'm making a worgen warlock :) |
| 14:19.17 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=87151 is healgasmic |
| 14:19.49 | Lunessa | I dinked around Monday night and some on Sunday as a healer. It feels very different now. |
| 14:20.29 | Kraps | Lunessa: armory link? |
| 14:21.20 | Lunessa | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kirin+Tor&cn=Lunessa |
| 14:21.26 | Lunessa | LOL gear and stuff. |
| 14:22.07 | Kraps | wasnt lunessa a shammy? |
| 14:22.12 | Kraps | no |
| 14:22.19 | Kraps | :) |
| 14:22.20 | Lunessa | Unkle is a shaman. |
| 14:22.32 | Kraps | ya |
| 14:22.43 | Lunessa | Unkle is my main, but I was already know as Lunessa when I joined the channel. |
| 14:24.06 | Kraps | the whole chakra/chastise mechanic looks cool |
| 14:25.39 | Lopeppeppy | Do want priest!! |
| 14:26.59 | Lunessa | It's interesting. I kept forgetting to use it, so I macro'ed it into Greater Heal so it was up a lot more often. |
| 14:27.02 | Kraps | work tiem! |
| 14:27.50 | Lopeppeppy | I did that with a lot of my cooldowns, Lunessa. I'd forget them, so I macro'd them up with my regular spells. So much nicer! |
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| 14:28.42 | adys_ | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/richtext-html-subset.html |
| 14:28.44 | adys_ | so sweet |
| 14:29.05 | mitch0 | 4.7 is not yet released though, right? |
| 14:29.44 | adys_ | i think it is, but thats not the point :P |
| 14:29.48 | mitch0 | also, how do you macro your cooldowns on other spells? aren't they on the GCD? |
| 14:29.49 | adys_ | this is supported since ages |
| 14:30.32 | mitch0 | well, Qt's nice. was always nice. |
| 14:31.13 | mitch0 | was a bit afraid nokia would kill it but they did the opposite, so \o/ |
| 14:31.55 | adys_ | nokia is fucking awesome. |
| 14:32.08 | adys_ | they are quickly rising to my top favourite companies |
| 14:32.19 | mitch0 | *cough* |
| 14:32.30 | adys_ | what? :p |
| 14:32.37 | mitch0 | well, their corporate licensing and support is not that awesum ;) |
| 14:33.04 | adys_ | eh, who cares really |
| 14:33.17 | mitch0 | I work for a telco ;) |
| 14:33.17 | Lunessa | mitch0: Chakra is a "next spell" sort of thing. It's meant to be used in conjunction with other spells. |
| 14:33.21 | adys_ | all the licensing that matters is qt's |
| 14:33.28 | adys_ | and as for support, well. |
| 14:33.29 | mitch0 | lunessa: ah, that explains |
| 14:36.35 | Cide | the docs are good enough for support in most cases |
| 14:37.17 | mitch0 | was talking about corporate support, not related to Qt |
| 14:37.27 | mitch0 | stuff like MSCs, SMSCs |
| 14:38.32 | Cide | shrug |
| 14:38.35 | mitch0 | like, when we reported that some function was borked and didn't work according to docs, they replied by "documentation updated to match borked behaviour" :) |
| 14:38.36 | Cide | not in my area of interest :) |
| 14:38.44 | Cide | nice. |
| 14:39.32 | Ycarene | What kind of stats should a tank have for ICC? |
| 14:40.04 | mitch0 | min GS 8500 |
| 14:40.11 | Katawa | t9+ is fine these days. |
| 14:40.18 | Ycarene | lolwut? |
| 14:40.23 | Cide | you need at least 85k hp |
| 14:40.54 | adys_ | CIDE |
| 14:40.56 | adys_ | HELP. |
| 14:41.00 | Cide | okay my dear |
| 14:41.04 | adys_ | unzip now |
| 14:41.13 | Cide | NO |
| 14:41.21 | Thunder_Child | bzip then? |
| 14:41.27 | Cide | preferably |
| 14:41.32 | zenzio | I can see somehow why they did stat jumps in BC/LK/Cataclysm, but I would have appreciated a more linear increase |
| 14:41.48 | Cide | I'm sure you would but it wouldn't work |
| 14:42.02 | zenzio | yup |
| 14:42.08 | zenzio | I still recall how awesome I felt when I passed 10k on my tank back in the day |
| 14:42.10 | mitch0 | bzip is outdated |
| 14:42.15 | mitch0 | xz is the new king |
| 14:42.26 | Ycarene | In cata, tanks will have upwards of 200k hps |
| 14:42.28 | zenzio | uha ftw |
| 14:42.41 | ZorbaBeta | it'll be interesting when they have to flatten everything again |
| 14:42.41 | Katawa | They're already at 150k in t11 aren't they? |
| 14:43.49 | Ycarene | the problem is the multiple tiers at each endgame level |
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| 14:45.42 | Lunessa | Oh yeah - http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/11/10/funny-pictures-voices-in-my-head/ |
| 14:46.08 | alestane | I wouldn't be broke if the voices in my head would just pay rent. |
| 14:46.24 | Sixen | lol Lune |
| 14:47.02 | Ycarene | You can't win them all, but you can damn sure lose them all. |
| 14:47.10 | Lunessa | alestane: Same deal. And people always look at me with fear when I explain to them that the voice in my head don't like them very much. |
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| 14:52.09 | Ackis | so activision is sexist |
| 14:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | The voices in my head often go shopping on my behalf. I only EVER get beer when Kirwan is bitching about something.... |
| 14:52.19 | Ackis | new CoD Black Ops included avatar codes... Male only |
| 14:52.31 | Xinhuan | deathy codes emails are out |
| 14:52.34 | Xinhuan | for ppl who bought the stream |
| 14:52.56 | Ackis | thanks Xinhuan |
| 14:53.03 | mikma | Cataclysm Beta - Build 13241 (Updated) Backstab now deals 150% weapon damage, down from 200%. |
| 14:53.12 | mikma | Cataclysm Beta - Build 13277 Backstab now deals 200% weapon damage, up from 150% weapon damage. |
| 14:53.15 | Xinhuan | everyone practically logged out in the middle of a raid |
| 14:53.16 | Xinhuan | just to get it |
| 14:53.17 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 14:53.31 | Ackis | heh |
| 14:53.38 | foxlit | sc2patch! |
| 14:53.40 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: yeah I just redeemed mine :P |
| 14:54.25 | alestane | You've talked before about the joys and perils of going shopping with the Troops, Peppy. |
| 14:55.12 | foxlit | "Thors will now prioritize attacking ground units over medivacs" |
| 14:55.13 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, the Troops can be hard on a girl's food supply sometimes! |
| 14:55.18 | foxlit | I can't tell whether that's a buff or a nerf :/ |
| 14:55.22 | Ackis | they need to convert the murloc suit et al to be battle.net account wide imo |
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| 14:57.06 | Ackis | nicoli_s: how's CoD:BO? |
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| 14:58.47 | unfo- | Ackis, much heavier on the PC than CoD:MW2 :-( |
| 14:58.56 | unfo- | Ackis, have to wait for my computer to enjoy BO |
| 14:59.24 | Fisker | fail |
| 14:59.34 | Ackis | should've got it on 360! |
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| 14:59.52 | unfo- | fps on console is not my thing |
| 14:59.53 | Fisker | blizzard/rayv failed again |
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| 15:01.29 | Ackis | why Fisker? |
| 15:02.01 | Fisker | their email screams fake |
| 15:02.09 | Fisker | well except for the bad spelling |
| 15:02.10 | Fisker | none of th at |
| 15:02.13 | Fisker | that* |
| 15:03.11 | Napoleone | so no way to implement animations? |
| 15:03.25 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 15:03.29 | Napoleone | like a flash or avi animation ;P |
| 15:03.36 | Arrowmaster | MovieFrame |
| 15:03.46 | jnwhiteh | I told you this the other day |
| 15:03.47 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 15:03.53 | jnwhiteh | you can use what ShowMeTheMoney does |
| 15:03.55 | jnwhiteh | you can use the Animation system |
| 15:03.59 | jnwhiteh | and what Arrowmaster is correct as well |
| 15:04.01 | nevcairiel | they finally send out the deathy reward codes \o/ |
| 15:04.05 | jnwhiteh | why are they not sufficient? |
| 15:04.22 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:04.35 | Fisker | yeah nevcairiel |
| 15:04.59 | Fisker | enjoy going to an israelian site to redeem your pet :P |
| 15:05.05 | Napoleone | well it was a question ;P |
| 15:05.17 | nevcairiel | huh, blizzcon.com/loot which then goes to battle.net |
| 15:05.17 | jnwhiteh | which I'd already answered! |
| 15:05.19 | unfo- | Fisker, wtf? .il ? |
| 15:05.21 | jnwhiteh | Yesterday, or the day before |
| 15:05.26 | Fisker | look at the link nevcairiel |
| 15:05.34 | nevcairiel | i didnt click their link |
| 15:05.38 | nevcairiel | went directly to blizzcon.com |
| 15:05.48 | Napoleone | well something called i dont have logs. and have restarted pc a few times. |
| 15:05.49 | unfo- | Fisker, oh right |
| 15:05.51 | Fisker | why would you go to blizzcon.com? |
| 15:05.53 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: it is the correct link, either way. |
| 15:05.59 | nevcairiel | because it said so in the mail |
| 15:06.02 | Fisker | yeah it's not a scam jnwhiteh |
| 15:06.05 | nevcairiel | go to blizzcon.com/loot |
| 15:06.07 | jnwhiteh | I'm aware =) |
| 15:06.08 | Fisker | but it's stupid link to use |
| 15:06.09 | nevcairiel | i read the mail on my phone =P |
| 15:06.19 | unfo- | agree with fisker, idiotic of blizzard/rayv |
| 15:06.37 | Fisker | http://mailman.netcraft.co.il/t/r/l/<random characters>/<random characters/r |
| 15:06.46 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 15:06.51 | jnwhiteh | that's the company that did the mailing for them |
| 15:06.56 | jnwhiteh | so? |
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| 15:07.04 | nevcairiel | i suppose. I still didnt click it, i went to the blizzcon page directly :P |
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| 15:07.14 | Fisker | They're advocating to make sure that links actually point where they look to point |
| 15:07.17 | Fisker | this one doesn't |
| 15:07.26 | Lopeppeppy | ~logs |
| 15:07.26 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily, or the log URL is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/ |
| 15:07.34 | jnwhiteh | 'they' are blizzard |
| 15:07.37 | jnwhiteh | this isn't from blizzard |
| 15:07.40 | jnwhiteh | problem solved! |
| 15:07.48 | jnwhiteh | its from rayv =) |
| 15:07.58 | Fisker | troll |
| 15:08.00 | jnwhiteh | under the title of 'Blizzard Entertainment' |
| 15:08.10 | jnwhiteh | yes, I'm a troll |
| 15:08.12 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 15:08.13 | Fisker | It's still a stpid practice to do, nomatter what |
| 15:08.16 | Fisker | stupid* |
| 15:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | chowning crap is a pain in the arse. Why on earth can't I just go back to being part of the web group? *sigh* |
| 15:11.16 | mitch0 | ? |
| 15:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | My job, it bites sometimes, mitch0. :) I'm not officially part of the IT office, even though I do extensive user support. I therefore do not have the ticketing system to track my work, nor the rights on various servers, to do what I need to do. It's a creative challenge sometimes, to get to where I need to be to do what I need to do, without locking myself in a padded room for hours drooling at the walls. |
| 15:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | Chown is a command I despise with all my being, for if I were added to one particular Dreamweaver group, I would never have to do it again! Ever. :) |
| 15:16.15 | Fisker | chgrp? |
| 15:17.26 | Fisker | you chould always chmod 777 |
| 15:17.32 | Fisker | i'm sure they would appreciate it |
| 15:18.08 | Nechckn | From the sound of how wonderfully smart the organization is set up, they would likely not even notice. |
| 15:18.24 | Nechckn | wonders how he is actually agreeing with Fisker of all people.... |
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| 15:19.29 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: setfacl! |
| 15:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, they watch me like a hawk, since I'm not one of them! But all of your suggestions sound awesome, trust me... :) |
| 15:22.13 | Fisker | i'll watch you like a hawk too |
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| 15:23.12 | TMc51 | Is that what they're calling it htese days, fisker? |
| 15:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | You have to pay to use the webcam, Fisker. |
| 15:24.44 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, baby needs new plane tickets for Xmas, money is important! |
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| 15:29.24 | Lunessa | The man in the coon-skin cap / By the big pen / Wants eleven dollar bills / You only got ten - story of my frikking life. |
| 15:31.01 | Mirrormn | the hell does that even mean? |
| 15:31.16 | TMc51 | <3 |
| 15:31.27 | TMc51 | was just listening to that a few minutes ago. |
| 15:31.38 | Katawa | I guess Lun wants to play in a pig pen and doesn't have the correct currency. |
| 15:31.52 | Lunessa | Mirrormn: http://www.bobdylan.com/#/songs/subterranean-homesick-blues |
| 15:32.10 | Mirrormn | no, I know what song it's from |
| 15:32.15 | Katawa | goddamn bob dylan.. |
| 15:32.27 | Mirrormn | but what does that line mean? |
| 15:32.51 | TMc51 | a day late and a dollar short |
| 15:33.07 | Lunessa | It means, that the powers that be always want more from you than you have to give. |
| 15:34.22 | Mirrormn | all right |
| 15:35.01 | arkanes | the coon skin cap represents oppresion! |
| 15:36.31 | Mirrormn | I wonder |
| 15:37.09 | arkanes | it's because the song is about race warfare and class disparity |
| 15:37.18 | Mirrormn | anyway, the point is that those lyrics are vague enough that saying that they are "the story of your life" is confusing to the point of uselessness unless you actually specify what they mean to you |
| 15:37.21 | arkanes | the black & white bands on the coons skin represent the races |
| 15:37.39 | arkanes | while the tail on the cap represents the long tail of economic lower class |
| 15:38.18 | Mirrormn | and each hair of fur represents a single person, all coming together in a society to create a whole that is more than the sum of its parts |
| 15:38.25 | arkanes | right |
| 15:38.28 | Mirrormn | yeah yeah everyone knows that part |
| 15:39.19 | Katawa | Well that's not stricyl inferred, there's nothing synergetic about a pelt. |
| 15:39.23 | Katawa | *strictly |
| 15:39.45 | arkanes | a single hair won't keep off rain or cold air |
| 15:39.45 | Mirrormn | -.- |
| 15:39.50 | arkanes | (the rain represents communism) |
| 15:40.06 | Mirrormn | (cold air represents anarchy) |
| 15:40.06 | arkanes | cold air, of course, is the military-industrial complex |
| 15:40.11 | Mirrormn | what, no |
| 15:40.12 | arkanes | heretic! |
| 15:40.15 | Mirrormn | wtf |
| 15:40.23 | Mirrormn | where did you learn your Lyrics, asshole |
| 15:40.37 | Katawa | Personally I think the guy's just blitzed so high that people want to assume he's got special meaning |
| 15:40.43 | Lunessa | Specifically it means I'm always being asked to come up with something more at work than is possible. |
| 15:41.05 | nevcairiel | keeps your work interesting |
| 15:41.09 | arkanes | if people won't listen to you when you tell them something can't be done, or that you can't do it, get a new job |
| 15:41.23 | nevcairiel | you know what you need to do: lower their expectations, then you can excell! |
| 15:41.27 | Katawa | Lemme try this shit... hmmm... red treees / simple tiiiiimes / city aglooooow / parking fiiiiiiines |
| 15:42.00 | arkanes | Katawa: easy, the city is capitalism, the parking fines are facism, the simple times are shots of whiskey and the trees are soldiers |
| 15:42.41 | Mirrormn | now, when I heard that song as a child (back in serious mode now), I always thought the "eleven dollar bills" lyric was actually "eleven-dollar bills", meaning that the guy was operating on some kind of non-standard economy |
| 15:42.41 | TC-Work | ehich is all subjective |
| 15:42.44 | arkanes | Lunessa: assuming you're actually good at your job, anyway :P |
| 15:42.44 | TC-Work | which* |
| 15:43.14 | Mirrormn | which meant that he was in some way the gatekeeper of some sort of society which "you" did not understand and could not be a part of |
| 15:43.28 | Lunessa | arkanes: I'm very good at my job. My job just sucks. Much like Lopeppeppy's does. |
| 15:43.42 | arkanes | well jobs that suck, suck |
| 15:43.56 | nevcairiel | you know, i missed that 's at the end there reading the first time =p |
| 15:44.02 | Mirrormn | *shrug* everything sucks if you don't like it |
| 15:44.15 | Mirrormn | PURE WISDOM |
| 15:44.25 | Lunessa | Let me put it this way... I'm using a lot of ManageADAccounts calls today. |
| 15:44.51 | arkanes | I look at it like this: I'm really good at my job, and I was hired for my expertise |
| 15:45.24 | Mirrormn | I look at it like this: I'm unemployed, so stop bitching :< |
| 15:45.37 | nevcairiel | stop chatting and get job hunting! |
| 15:45.47 | Mirrormn | yar pretty much |
| 15:46.07 | arkanes | so when i tell people what we need to solve a problem and they ignore that and tell me to do solve it with something else, I raise a fit because they're not taking advantage of what they bought when they hired me |
| 15:46.41 | arkanes | when I phrase it that way I sound like a prima donna but I assure you in the specific instances I've got business people doing utterly ridiculous stuff :\ |
| 15:47.03 | nevcairiel | you always do, and rarely anything you say will make a difference |
| 15:47.20 | Katawa | Primadonnas :/ |
| 15:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | does the zug-zug shuffle with Lunessa. |
| 15:47.24 | nevcairiel | the decision makers wearing suits have to make decisions, or their job is pointless! |
| 15:47.46 | arkanes | I'm in a really, really amazing spot right now though |
| 15:47.55 | arkanes | I may be able to force a 30% + raise out it |
| 15:49.56 | Lunessa | Mirrormn: Prior to getting this gig I was in that boat for 2+ years. I spent a lot of time finding this gig. |
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| 16:25.29 | Nexiuz | I got 2 textures in the same layer, and I have problems with the wrong one being in front |
| 16:25.39 | Nexiuz | I can't use an other layer, all layers are used |
| 16:25.51 | Nexiuz | Its a background for an button |
| 16:26.00 | Lopeppeppy | The rum is not gone. |
| 16:26.29 | zenzelezz | then we're not doing it right |
| 16:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | get your butt over here and drink your half, zenzelezz. |
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| 16:27.14 | zenzelezz | puts on his shoes |
| 16:27.53 | Nexiuz | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142696 is the xml |
| 16:28.10 | Cide | Nexiuz: I seriously doubt all your texture layers are used? |
| 16:28.16 | Cide | if so, urdointiwrong |
| 16:28.50 | Katawa | It's pretty hard to overlap that much stuff in one spot |
| 16:29.04 | Nexiuz | My button icon must be in the background layer for buttonfacade |
| 16:29.16 | Nexiuz | and I want to have an other texture behind it that I control |
| 16:29.20 | Cide | seems like buttonfacade is putting you in a rough spot |
| 16:29.30 | Cide | why don't you bring that up with buttonfacade |
| 16:29.33 | Cide | instead of with us |
| 16:30.06 | Nexiuz | maybe there is more simple way how controling the strata of textures that I'm not aware of |
| 16:30.16 | Cide | different frames |
| 16:30.37 | Nexiuz | Frame in frame you main? |
| 16:30.39 | Nexiuz | *mean |
| 16:30.44 | Cide | possibly |
| 16:30.49 | Cide | if I remember correctly that should work |
| 16:31.02 | Katawa | Should, I use different frames and just set the frame depth |
| 16:31.08 | Nexiuz | Yup, the frame level should be increased then |
| 16:31.16 | Nexiuz | I hoped to do it an other way :( |
| 16:31.20 | Nexiuz | anyway, thanks |
| 16:31.21 | jnwhiteh | you can also use SetDrawLayer |
| 16:31.31 | Nexiuz | not really |
| 16:31.32 | jnwhiteh | but its expensive for the engine to negotiate them |
| 16:31.33 | jnwhiteh | why not? |
| 16:31.35 | Cide | he uses all of them already |
| 16:31.37 | Nexiuz | in already at the background level |
| 16:31.41 | jnwhiteh | so? |
| 16:31.46 | Nexiuz | *im |
| 16:31.48 | jnwhiteh | you can specify layering within a layer |
| 16:31.56 | Nexiuz | and I can not go lower then background |
| 16:32.04 | jnwhiteh | no, but you can layer within the draw layer |
| 16:32.19 | Nexiuz | k, ill check it |
| 16:32.20 | Nexiuz | thanks |
| 16:32.21 | Cide | really? |
| 16:32.32 | Cide | I thought SetDrawLayer just affected the, you know, draw layer |
| 16:32.32 | jnwhiteh | afaik, it was just added |
| 16:32.38 | jnwhiteh | its a numeric argument after the layer |
| 16:32.44 | Cide | oh, neat |
| 16:32.44 | jnwhiteh | I saw it from someone here :P |
| 16:32.49 | jnwhiteh | but its expensive. |
| 16:32.51 | Cide | wowprogramming isn't updated |
| 16:32.53 | Cide | yeah, I bet |
| 16:33.01 | Cide | it was undefined for a reason previously :P |
| 16:33.03 | jnwhiteh | Cide: i haven't tested, thus haven't updated. |
| 16:33.04 | Nexiuz | wowprogramming: Sets the layer at which the region's graphics are drawn relative to others in its frame |
| 16:33.06 | Cide | noted |
| 16:33.17 | Cide | see above, what jnwhiteh said |
| 16:33.36 | jnwhiteh | there's a new XML attribute |
| 16:33.36 | jnwhiteh | textureSubLevel |
| 16:33.43 | jnwhiteh | frame:CreateTexture( [name [, layer [, inheritsFrom [, sublevel=0]]]] ) |
| 16:33.45 | adys_ | Cide |
| 16:33.47 | jnwhiteh | texture:SetDrawLayer("layer" [, sublevel]); |
| 16:33.50 | adys_ | shut up and help me out Cide. |
| 16:33.57 | Cide | you haven't even asked for help yet |
| 16:33.59 | Nexiuz | what is the default sublevel, any idea? |
| 16:34.04 | Nexiuz | nm i see |
| 16:34.06 | adys_ | I DONT CARE HELP ANYWAY. |
| 16:34.09 | jnwhiteh | 0 |
| 16:34.31 | adys_ | Cide, http://dpaste.com/273476/ -- I need to do this using paintEvent |
| 16:34.33 | Cide | I heard you liked layers though, so I put a sub layer in your texture layer in your frame level in your frame strata |
| 16:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | and a partridge in a pear tree |
| 16:34.57 | Cide | adys_: why? |
| 16:35.03 | Katawa | I heard you like to layer so we put layers in your layers so you can layer your layers while you're layering layers. |
| 16:35.06 | Cide | and using paint events isn't particularly difficult |
| 16:35.24 | Cide | you just define a device context and blah blah and it calls your method every frame |
| 16:35.31 | adys_ | Cide, basically i need lower level access to painting, right now the labels are butt-ugly and the mask isnt AA'd |
| 16:35.44 | Cide | um |
| 16:35.48 | Cide | did you set the proper look? |
| 16:35.55 | adys_ | proper look? |
| 16:35.58 | Nexiuz | 2 texture elements in the same frame, attribute sublevel seems to do nothing on the texture element |
| 16:36.00 | Cide | well qt is themed |
| 16:36.03 | Nexiuz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:36.08 | adys_ | i dont care about themes |
| 16:36.10 | Cide | it uses the native os theme by default afaik |
| 16:36.12 | adys_ | the osd has its own theme |
| 16:36.21 | adys_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD |
| 16:36.30 | adys_ | which is why im rewriting the palettes |
| 16:36.47 | adys_ | but amro insists that i dont need to do all that and can avoid trouble if i use paintEvent |
| 16:36.55 | Cide | no clue |
| 16:37.04 | Cide | could just define the css I guess? |
| 16:37.25 | Cide | (qt lets you write themes in a css-like language) |
| 16:37.46 | adys_ | yeah i know it does but never figured out how |
| 16:38.02 | aX0rZ | does someone know if using SecureAuraHeader for unit != "player" is implemented yet? |
| 16:38.06 | Cide | haven't used it myself either |
| 16:38.27 | Cide | anyway |
| 16:38.33 | Cide | I dabbled with paintEvent briefly |
| 16:38.38 | Cide | but it was a long time ago |
| 16:38.46 | jnwhiteh | Nexiuz: Cide: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateTexture |
| 16:39.13 | Cide | neat. thanks jnwhiteh |
| 16:39.37 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 16:39.38 | alestane | There's not supposed to be any unit-specific code in SecureAuraHeaderTemplate. |
| 16:39.40 | Nexiuz | perfect thanks |
| 16:39.51 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if FontStrings have the second argument in their SetDrawLayer function |
| 16:39.56 | jnwhiteh | if they don't, we need to fix the hierarchy =/ |
| 16:40.15 | Fisker | i will fontstring u |
| 16:40.35 | Katawa | Your mom fontstrings? |
| 16:41.06 | aX0rZ | alestane: well it used to do at least http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=213307&postcount=12 |
| 16:41.23 | aX0rZ | and now i dont know if my codes wrong or blizzard has fucked it up |
| 16:41.41 | Cide | your codes are wrong |
| 16:41.44 | Cide | right jnwhiteh |
| 16:41.48 | Lunessa | When in doubt, assume your code is wrong. |
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| 16:42.04 | Cide | and the codes |
| 16:42.13 | adys_ | show me your source codes Cide |
| 16:42.47 | adys_ | also |
| 16:42.49 | adys_ | Cide |
| 16:42.50 | Fisker | no! |
| 16:42.52 | adys_ | PSYCH TODAY!!!!1 |
| 16:43.01 | Lunessa | UR source codes, showz me dem. |
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| 16:43.14 | Cide | we don't care about psych |
| 16:43.22 | Cide | sorry bro |
| 16:43.51 | alestane | It would be lovely if people brought this to someone's attention instead of posting it on a third-party site and hoping someone noticed, but I'll confess I'm not sure how they'd do that. |
| 16:44.32 | alestane | I could probably have fixed more of these a few weeks ago when they were posted, now I don't know if I'll be able to get them in before deadline. |
| 16:44.38 | Cide | it would require some form of collective intelligence |
| 16:45.11 | adys_ | speaking of intelligence |
| 16:45.16 | adys_ | buttplugs Fisker |
| 16:45.29 | adys_ | And Cide! http://psychpineapple.com/2010/09/shawn-2-0-episode-9/ |
| 16:45.46 | alestane | But the beta forum, at least, has been noticed by people who need to on occasion. |
| 16:46.20 | jnwhiteh | hrm, I may have to remove the LayeredRegion pseudo-type |
| 16:46.28 | jnwhiteh | since this function is different between fontStrings and textures |
| 16:46.29 | jnwhiteh | ah well |
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| 16:47.29 | Cide | or we can ask them to add it and we can keep our fake hierarchy |
| 16:48.35 | jnwhiteh | well there's only three things in that hierarchy. |
| 16:48.36 | jnwhiteh | anyone in-game |
| 16:48.41 | jnwhiteh | willing to test something for me? |
| 16:48.43 | nevcairiel | on beta, if that works |
| 16:48.57 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.03 | jnwhiteh | does it change the color of the font string? |
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| 16:50.00 | adys_ | buttsniffles Kalroth |
| 16:50.01 | nevcairiel | is that the over-head name string? |
| 16:50.06 | nevcairiel | if yes, then no |
| 16:50.18 | Kalroth | awoo |
| 16:50.19 | Cide | it's in the player unit frame I thought |
| 16:50.19 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 16:50.21 | jnwhiteh | its the player frame |
| 16:50.22 | Lunessa | *sighs* it's "surname" not "sir name" really... and I work with people who have degrees... *facepalm* |
| 16:50.26 | nevcairiel | that didnt change either |
| 16:50.31 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 16:50.35 | jnwhiteh | can you try it on a known font string? |
| 16:50.40 | jnwhiteh | I suspect it doesn't work on them at all |
| 16:50.43 | jnwhiteh | in which case this is an easy decision :p |
| 16:51.53 | nevcairiel | worked on another string |
| 16:52.09 | jnwhiteh | ah, so it does work |
| 16:52.18 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 16:52.19 | jnwhiteh | thanks :P |
| 16:58.36 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 16:58.39 | Fisker | what works? |
| 16:58.50 | Fisker | it? |
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| 17:02.54 | jnwhiteh | yes, it indeed. |
| 17:11.14 | Fisker | am i going to have to kill a jnwhiteh ? |
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| 17:16.43 | dardack | can anyone help me with making a tooltip clickable with LDB, i can display my info with OnToolTip show, but what to allow person to click on items in the tooltip, so I tried OnEnter, but OnEnter only seems to fire when addons are first loaded, no matter how many times i mouse over my LDB plugin it doesn't fire again |
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| 17:19.31 | Arrowmaster | the OnEnter should fire every time you mouse over your LDB plugin |
| 17:25.35 | amro | [16:50:00] * adys_ buttsniffles Kalroth |
| 17:25.38 | amro | why isn't that in the topic? |
| 17:25.40 | amro | where's Cairenn|afk |
| 17:25.57 | Kalroth | we're roleplaying Twilight wolves |
| 17:26.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sorry, kalroth, i'll send the rescue chopper |
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| 17:29.31 | Jamash | so they're fixing The Insane |
| 17:29.51 | Kalroth | you cant fix Fisker |
| 17:30.07 | Jamash | OH SHI http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/november/epicdruidtroll.jpg |
| 17:30.27 | Jamash | ok now I have to roll a troll druid |
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| 17:36.13 | durcyn | bat form is amazing |
| 17:36.15 | Cairenn|afk | pounces on Lopeppeppy, "Oh really?! DO tell!" |
| 17:37.03 | nicoli_s | wow, just saw a cata commercial |
| 17:37.28 | Lopeppeppy | Rescue chopper with hot paratroopers in tight black uniforms, Cairenn! Climb aboard. *wink* |
| 17:37.54 | Cairenn|afk | links elbows with Lopeppeppy and drags her off to a private corner for some girl gossip! |
| 17:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, yes, girls! |
| 17:38.37 | alestane | What is Lopeppeppy telling all about now? |
| 17:39.25 | Lunessa | partatroopers? |
| 17:40.10 | Lopeppeppy | To rescue people from the Twilight werewolf RPG. |
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| 17:42.48 | Napoleone | anyone played with the eclipsebar? |
| 17:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | Stick with us, guys, you'll see the sights someday! |
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| 17:48.07 | Napoleone | lol |
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| 17:48.42 | Arrowmaster | twilight werewolf rpg? |
| 17:50.08 | Lopeppeppy | [12:25] <Kalroth> we're roleplaying Twilight wolves |
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| 17:50.27 | Jamash | so you're walking around without a shirt on? |
| 17:50.43 | Jamash | s/you/they/ |
| 17:51.10 | Kalroth | shirt? |
| 17:51.34 | Napoleone | omg i dont know whats good or bad code atm lol |
| 17:51.35 | Lunessa | ahh, the key words which trigger people's attention. |
| 17:51.58 | Napoleone | looking at some blizzard code for finding eclipsebuff. and its like 10 lines when i can do it in 2. |
| 17:52.18 | Jamash | do not look to blizzard code as a standard of quality |
| 17:52.51 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 17:52.56 | Napoleone | let me get the example running ;P |
| 17:53.22 | Jamash | Kalroth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bXeQ7baYEE |
| 17:54.04 | Lopeppeppy | I am not wearing a tshirt, that is correct. |
| 17:55.12 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: the moving mouth on the dog makes that epic |
| 17:55.16 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:58.45 | Napoleone | http://pastey.net/142697 |
| 17:59.32 | Jamash | huh |
| 18:00.26 | Napoleone | as i understand their code goes through all the buffs checking. while mine calls the one if it exists. |
| 18:03.41 | alestane | Blizzard code is usually written for simplicity and maintainability rather than terseness or optimum efficiency. |
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| 18:06.25 | Napoleone | yeh |
| 18:07.14 | Napoleone | but my line is pretty simple aswell ;) |
| 18:08.25 | Robsato | I think your version only works on english versions of wow |
| 18:08.43 | Jamash | that's true |
| 18:09.05 | Napoleone | well i would use the variable instead if I knew it |
| 18:09.58 | Jamash | that's a flaw in UnitBuff actually |
| 18:10.26 | Jamash | you can't specify a spellid to filter on |
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| 18:11.11 | durcyn | UnitBuff(unit, (GetSpellInfo(ECLIPSE_BAR_SOLOAR_BUFF_ID))) |
| 18:11.21 | Jamash | does that work? |
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| 18:11.30 | Jamash | if it's spelled correctly? |
| 18:11.55 | durcyn | i blame the crap I spilled on my keyboard last month |
| 18:12.09 | Lopeppeppy | Clean it? *laugh* |
| 18:12.27 | Jamash | put it in the dishwasher |
| 18:12.34 | durcyn | it's extraordinarily difficult to get to the underside of a macbook keyboard |
| 18:12.44 | Jamash | put the macbook in the dishwasher |
| 18:12.53 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 18:12.58 | Jamash | (please don't actually do that) |
| 18:13.04 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.44 | Jamash | damn it Rokk give me Soup for the Soul |
| 18:14.10 | Jamash | I am one quest away from Hail to the Chef and he won't give me the daily |
| 18:14.37 | Cide | how many quests are there? |
| 18:15.02 | Jamash | 4 |
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| 18:15.36 | Cide | so enjoy another 2 times on average! |
| 18:16.02 | Cide | bibi, can you fix the mmoc css? |
| 18:16.18 | Bibi | Kaelten can. |
| 18:16.19 | Bibi | runs away |
| 18:16.28 | Cide | Kaelten: fix it please |
| 18:16.32 | Kaelten | Cide: ? |
| 18:16.43 | Cide | the patch 3.3 and cataclysm tabs |
| 18:16.47 | nevcairiel | dont believe the french man |
| 18:16.50 | nevcairiel | i'm sure he can |
| 18:16.56 | Bibi | as a matter of fact, I can't |
| 18:16.56 | Bibi | :p |
| 18:16.59 | Cide | the indent-on-mouseover is fugly and about 10 years late |
| 18:17.12 | Cide | change it to a slight color tint or something for the love of god :( |
| 18:17.15 | amro | just like your sister |
| 18:17.22 | Kaelten | Cide: so there's not a bug, you just don't like it? |
| 18:17.33 | Cide | I believe those two are the same? |
| 18:17.42 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 18:17.49 | Cide | ask anyone else though |
| 18:18.01 | amro | what indent? |
| 18:18.02 | Cide | I'm sure they'll vouch for the ugliness |
| 18:18.09 | Cide | top right-ish corner |
| 18:18.13 | Cide | two tabs in the menu |
| 18:18.14 | amro | oh |
| 18:18.14 | Jamash | eh |
| 18:18.22 | amro | yeah it's weird |
| 18:18.28 | amro | at least put an icon in the gap |
| 18:18.30 | Cide | color tint would do much better |
| 18:18.36 | amro | yeah, highlight |
| 18:18.46 | durcyn | the indent is horrible |
| 18:19.02 | Cide | Kaelten: see? the same. |
| 18:19.16 | nevcairiel | declared bug by popular vote |
| 18:19.20 | Cide | ^ |
| 18:19.23 | durcyn | upvoting! |
| 18:19.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:19.46 | Jamash | god damn it people are selling the alliance-only cooking recipes on the horde AH for 20g+ |
| 18:20.00 | nevcairiel | thats cheap |
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| 18:20.28 | Jamash | they cost like 2s from the vendor |
| 18:20.41 | Arrowmaster | some are quest only |
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| 18:20.49 | kd3|netbook | the cost of convenience isn't cheap |
| 18:21.30 | Jamash | there's a vendor in stormwind that sells 'em |
| 18:22.20 | nevcairiel | yes, but its not like you can just go there now, is it |
| 18:23.07 | Jamash | I could if I didn't have 10 slots full |
| 18:23.08 | Arrowmaster | remember the good old days when you could mind control a vendor and buy stuff from it |
| 18:23.19 | Jamash | wtb more character slots per server |
| 18:23.25 | kd3|netbook | cripes, how long ago was that? |
| 18:23.40 | Arrowmaster | some time in classic |
| 18:23.44 | amro | too bad it was never possible to mind control players and destroy their gear |
| 18:23.53 | nevcairiel | you cant buy your own auctions on the AH, so you would need some other guy to do it for you, afaik |
| 18:24.04 | nevcairiel | which is a convenience many people rather pay 20g for |
| 18:24.34 | durcyn | or just have a second account like a sane person |
| 18:24.35 | amro | you can farm more than 20g in the time it takes you to grab the recipe and put it up |
| 18:25.01 | Jamash | not if you buy 10 of each recipe from the vendor |
| 18:25.01 | nevcairiel | indeed |
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| 18:25.13 | nevcairiel | what do you need 10 for |
| 18:25.24 | amro | that's why people do it, it's not a public service |
| 18:25.40 | amro | on the other hand, if you just need one of each 20g a pop is convenient |
| 18:25.43 | Jamash | to sell them |
| 18:25.53 | nevcairiel | for cheaper then 20g, i assume? ;) |
| 18:25.58 | amro | ...so you're pissed that someone beat you to the punch? |
| 18:25.58 | Torhal | 2s |
| 18:26.03 | Jamash | huh? |
| 18:26.14 | mitchnull | TADA |
| 18:26.20 | Jamash | I'm pissed someone's selling them for 20g instead of 1g |
| 18:26.35 | nevcairiel | You sell them for a price where there is people that buy them |
| 18:26.44 | amro | why would anyone sell them for 1g? |
| 18:26.52 | amro | that's just stupid and not even sort of worth the time it takes to put everything up |
| 18:26.58 | nevcairiel | you want cheap, go get them yourself :p |
| 18:27.03 | Jamash | for something a level 1 character can do |
| 18:27.08 | durcyn | Jamash: and this is why beggars don't often choose. |
| 18:27.43 | amro | just sounds whiny to me |
| 18:28.20 | nevcairiel | he is just pissed that he just paid 100000% for that recipe :) |
| 18:28.38 | Jamash | hell no I didn't buy it |
| 18:28.49 | amro | yeah, 20 whole gold |
| 18:29.00 | amro | that's like, 1 arcane crystal! |
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| 18:29.40 | nevcairiel | when did we start measuring stuff in arcane crystals? |
| 18:29.48 | nevcairiel | arent they kinda worthless? :D |
| 18:29.50 | Cide | ever since vanilla |
| 18:29.55 | Cide | when they were the shit |
| 18:30.05 | Cide | arcanite bars baby |
| 18:30.06 | amro | nevcairiel: it's a joke, my point is that 20g is no longer a big deal as in vanilla |
| 18:30.48 | Jamash | eh, I'll just get someone in my guild with an alli alt to put them on the neutral ah |
| 18:30.50 | nevcairiel | arcanite bars lost their charm after the transmute cooldown was removed |
| 18:31.40 | nevcairiel | Jamash: the point just is, that in the time that it takes to buy them, travel to an neutral ah, put them up, travel to another neutral ah, buy them, and travel back, you could've easily earned 100g farming |
| 18:32.43 | nevcairiel | because time is money, or gold |
| 18:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | Time is money, friend. |
| 18:34.21 | Jamash | I value not giving money to people who charge that much more than I value my time. |
| 18:34.43 | Lopeppeppy | Then there you go, the economics are simple for you. |
| 18:36.17 | nevcairiel | your time must be worthless |
| 18:36.21 | nevcairiel | i wish i had more time in the day |
| 18:36.24 | Jamash | you must be worthless |
| 18:37.14 | nevcairiel | You obviously dont even value your time yourself, so what else can i say |
| 18:37.18 | nevcairiel | leaves for food |
| 18:37.31 | Shadowed | am I going to have to smack someone |
| 18:37.37 | Jamash | principle man |
| 18:37.38 | Jamash | principle |
| 18:37.42 | durcyn | opportunity costs, man. |
| 18:37.59 | Jamash | principle > opportunity cost |
| 18:38.23 | Shadowed | Principles for a small amount of gold like 100g on an MMO :p |
| 18:38.24 | durcyn | okay, pollyanna |
| 18:38.34 | adys_ | trades nevcairiel 10 legit soj against his stock of arcane crystals |
| 18:38.45 | Jamash | anyway I'm gonna go log on my alliance alt on another server and make like 1000g selling vendor recipes that cost 2s |
| 18:38.53 | Jamash | because people are stupid and lazy |
| 18:39.17 | adys_ | i was so sad when blizz made the new emblems "emblem of heroism" and all |
| 18:39.22 | Katawa | principles eh |
| 18:39.23 | adys_ | i wanted them to call them Signet of Justice |
| 18:39.29 | Jamash | that would be cool |
| 18:39.39 | Jamash | and funny |
| 18:39.41 | adys_ | so that we could have bought armor for 75 SoJs. |
| 18:43.33 | adys_ | gitts Kalroth |
| 18:44.46 | adys_ | Dagmar, you're not cool_ anymore |
| 18:45.38 | Dagmar | No, I'm just no longer being subjected to Comcast's idea of a maintenance window |
| 18:46.35 | Jamash | ok, now I get it, recipes don't stack |
| 18:46.37 | adys_ | I love the term "maintenance window" |
| 18:46.40 | adys_ | for some reason. |
| 18:46.56 | Jamash | it's where the maintenance guy climbs in through |
| 18:48.58 | amro | now that just sounds like a euphemism |
| 18:50.28 | adys_ | tatoos a maintenance "window" on amro's sister |
| 18:51.45 | ccox | "just here to read the meter" |
| 18:52.13 | adys_ | Indeed |
| 18:52.45 | adys_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fioiEcRgJxE two psych eps for xmas :3 |
| 18:52.51 | adys_ | so much win \o/ |
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| 18:54.24 | adys_ | <sighs> youtube player |
| 18:57.52 | ccox | yeah, it stopped for me as well |
| 18:58.00 | ccox | pulled? |
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| 18:58.26 | adys_ | no, its just shit. |
| 18:59.07 | ccox | nope, soemthing wrong with the video - notice the 3 minutes of black on the end |
| 19:00.26 | adys_ | as i said |
| 19:00.27 | adys_ | youtube, meh. |
| 19:00.59 | adys_ | you know what would be awesome? If google would buy youtube and fix them. |
| 19:01.09 | ccox | lol |
| 19:01.27 | ccox | you expect google kiddies to FIX code? Silly Adys! |
| 19:01.35 | adys_ | I know right |
| 19:02.24 | ccox | I think the new dictionary entry for Google will be: the chaos resulting from a lack of parental supervision |
| 19:04.13 | adys_ | Steve Franks is awesome. |
| 19:04.42 | foxlit | PING eu.battle.net (80.239.186.40): 56 data bytes |
| 19:04.43 | foxlit | 36 bytes from 80-239-170-114.customer.teliacarrier.com (80.239.170.114): Communication prohibited by filter |
| 19:04.44 | foxlit | :/ |
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| 19:05.07 | cbreak | you got a firewall? |
| 19:05.24 | cbreak | maybe it blocks ICMP |
| 19:05.56 | nevcairiel | there is a icmp response to indicate that it was filtered? |
| 19:05.57 | nevcairiel | i havent seen that happen |
| 19:06.07 | nevcairiel | usually it just timeouts |
| 19:06.59 | Dagmar | nevcariel: It's rare, but sometimes a network admin lets useful ICMP messages go back |
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| 19:08.30 | Lunessa | Impatient people who interrupt my lunch to complain that a computer account hasn't been created for them yet when they turned in the paperwork 10 minutes ago for approval deserve to be kicked in the dangly bits. |
| 19:08.47 | adys_ | Dagmar, haha, nice one |
| 19:08.50 | adys_ | useful network debugging. |
| 19:08.53 | adys_ | "So, Mr. Asswipe, what's this guy's name?" |
| 19:09.13 | Dagmar | Adys: Yeah, I blame a lack of Microsoft-cdertified netwokr engineers in that area |
| 19:09.49 | adys_ | Thats some serious typoing |
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| 19:11.27 | greppy | adys_: that's because all they do is click the mouse, typing skills have degraded as a result. |
| 19:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, it shall be my very delight to come kick some dangly bits on your behalf. |
| 19:12.14 | cbreak | Curses Blizzard! |
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| 19:12.20 | cbreak | damn you and your Aged Yolk! |
| 19:12.21 | Lopeppeppy | I get those sheeple, they're calling my boss about something I didn't do, that they sent the email 5 minutes ago and I haven't even *GOTTEN* it because they typo'd my name and it's stuck in the dead queue. |
| 19:12.39 | Fisker | me |
| 19:12.39 | greppy | heh |
| 19:12.43 | Dagmar | greppy: Mainly it's because my caffiene levels are still at zero. |
| 19:12.53 | greppy | Dagmar: ohhhh now that sucks. |
| 19:13.00 | adys_ | "So you're thinkin' that, since sometimes women get pregnant to try to fix a troubled relationship, why can't a guy adopt a kid to do the same thing." |
| 19:13.00 | Lunessa | He's all "I need this right now, for the class I'm teaching!" "I said, the semester stared weeks ago, and you're just now submitting the paperwork?" There's nothing *I* can do until your boss approves it. Sorry." And then ate a french fry in front of him. |
| 19:13.16 | Dagmar | I got a can of Full Throttle open and took a few swallows before I typed that last line. |
| 19:13.47 | Katawa | That's what she said |
| 19:13.48 | amro | Lunessa: did you sip some cola for good measure? |
| 19:14.06 | Dagmar | Not the FRENCH FRIES! So cruel! |
| 19:14.13 | Lunessa | amro: I drank from my bottled water. |
| 19:14.19 | amro | that works |
| 19:14.22 | greppy | likes the people that try to call him during the time when the big bright ball of fire is hanging in the sky. Then they keep calling and leaving messages even though the voicemail greeting says "I work 3rd shift". |
| 19:14.30 | amro | but a slurping sound would drive the point home better |
| 19:15.32 | Dagmar | greppy: Heh. I know the feeling. I finally got our HR people to stop calling me altogether after sending them copies of reports about how bad for one's health it is to get calls from idiots in the middle of your sleep cycle, wanting you to improve your health. |
| 19:15.45 | Fisker | amro is a jerk |
| 19:16.22 | Lunessa | See, I work for a bureaucracy. I can't wipe my ass in the shitter without I get three forms filled out and approval of a Dean. So people who circumvent the process get me into trouble. I'm tired of explaining to the Security Director and HR why I don't have the paperwork in hand. So fuck the people who don't do it. |
| 19:16.26 | greppy | Dagmar: I have also kicked back meeting requests scheduled for 2pm and asked that they be scheduled for 2am instead. After a few of those people got the point and stopped inviting me :) |
| 19:16.44 | Dagmar | Hheeh good fallback plan! |
| 19:18.19 | greppy | Dagmar: a better one was one of my fellow 3rd shifters who kept getting calls during the day from this one guy just wanting to kind of chat... so he waited until 3am and called the guy at home and just started to chat. When he finally got pissed and said "Dude! It's 3am, wtf do you want!?" He responded with "Exactly." |
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| 19:18.56 | Amarande | so with the new 10/25 flexible lock system ... |
| 19:19.15 | Amarande | can you do Sindy, BQL, and PP on Heroic 10, and then get your Light of Dawn by bringing a 25 for LK H, or doesn't that work? :) |
| 19:19.39 | nevcairiel | You cant switch around heroics |
| 19:19.42 | nevcairiel | only normal modes |
| 19:20.19 | nevcairiel | once you do one heroic, you have a heroic id, cant change size, and can only raid with people that have the same id (or none) |
| 19:20.25 | greppy | and once you do a heroic, it doesn't handle bringing people in for normals afterwards very well... I don't think. |
| 19:20.36 | nevcairiel | its supposed to, though |
| 19:20.49 | mikecl | if you're going to do 25 lk h then sindy,bql, and pp are jokes |
| 19:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I hear you. *hug* I maintain the catalog, and people HATE that I don't just make changes because they say so. "Where's the form?" "It's my course, just change it." "No, it's the college's course, where's the signed change form?" |
| 19:21.00 | Amarande | heh, how many things are there in WoW that do things that aren't "supposed" to happen :) |
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| 19:21.22 | greppy | can't count that high. |
| 19:21.25 | nevcairiel | its a new system, it was put out there now to get the bugs ironed out for cata |
| 19:21.29 | Amarande | also, I have to wonder if the Shadowmourne reward thing is going to keep ICC semi-popular for a while even in Cata |
| 19:21.37 | Amarande | in a way that, say, Illidan and C'Thun didn't have |
| 19:21.56 | greppy | would like to get his shadowmourne. |
| 19:22.00 | Amarande | I actually just heard the other day about a Shadowmourne item that I never knew about before. :) |
| 19:22.06 | Amarande | greppy: should be trivially easy at 85 :) |
| 19:22.07 | nevcairiel | i dont exepect it. not when one guy gets loot and 20 other have to tag along |
| 19:22.18 | greppy | wonders what guildies would think of him hitting the extra spell while still working on H PP |
| 19:22.35 | Lunessa | I expect some people will do it for the guild achievement. |
| 19:22.41 | durcyn | just because the level cap increase is only 5 levels doesn't mean the old items are any less obsolete |
| 19:22.41 | nevcairiel | sure, once |
| 19:22.47 | Amarande | nevcairiel: maybe a Paladin heavy raid where *several* are doing their Shadowmourne? or can't you do more than one chest per run even if several have the quest? |
| 19:22.52 | nevcairiel | durcyn: even more so then wotlk |
| 19:23.07 | Amarande | just because you're specced holy doesn't mean you can't do the shadowmourne line for the loot, especially at 85 where it's not about the weapon anymore |
| 19:23.25 | durcyn | nevcairiel: seriously, 83+ quest rewards with higher dps than 80 legendaries, "just because it's orange" is stupid |
| 19:23.47 | Amarande | durcyn, people still did the quests for Atiesh during BC, and Thunderfury as long as it's been available |
| 19:24.05 | mikecl | are there any addons that can show a meter of my spellpower? |
| 19:24.07 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 19:24.09 | nevcairiel | but very rarely |
| 19:24.11 | Amarande | although Atiesh was probably still worth it in a way during BC, because Kara was a PAIN IN THE ASS to get to without it, unless you had a mage in your raid or were Alliance |
| 19:24.16 | mikecl | would such an addon be easy to make? |
| 19:24.26 | Arrowmaster | a meter? |
| 19:24.32 | greppy | isn't there some guild achieve for having all the available legendaries in guild? |
| 19:24.42 | Lunessa | *shrug* I'm making Sulfruas on my shaman... JUST BECAUSE |
| 19:24.48 | durcyn | greppy: there was some placeholder at the beginning of beta, who knows if it's even final |
| 19:24.49 | nevcairiel | its retroactive, so just find someone with the legendary |
| 19:24.51 | mikecl | like a bar...that fills when i get spellpower buffs from trinkets and procs |
| 19:25.05 | Amarande | gah, Kara had to be one of the most irritatingly placed raids ever :) |
| 19:25.15 | Amarande | for horde anyway. 11:39 flight from UC to Stonard |
| 19:25.29 | Amarande | and Grom'gol to Stonard isn't much better, especially when you consider the potential wait for a just-missed zepp |
| 19:25.42 | Arrowmaster | who in their right mind would ever fucking fly from US to stonard |
| 19:25.56 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: because if you were in Shattrath, and didn't think to go back up through the Dark Portal |
| 19:25.58 | Sixen | Is that even possible? |
| 19:26.09 | Sixen | How does the plane fit into my monitor? |
| 19:26.17 | Amarande | you were going to go to UC, and then you were going to either fly to Stonard or take the zepp to Grom'gol and then fly from there to Stonard |
| 19:26.31 | Arrowmaster | nobody on my server ever went to UC anyway |
| 19:26.33 | Amarande | remember, the Portal: Stonard spell wasn't available when Kara was first out, to my recollection |
| 19:26.58 | Amarande | Okay, then you could also take the portal to Orgrimmar and then go to Grom'gol->Stonard, but that's no faster than taking the portal to UC and doing the same zeppelin. :) |
| 19:27.08 | Arrowmaster | we always either went back trough the dark portal, or took the zepp from org to grom'gol |
| 19:27.24 | Amarande | The point was that Kara was ridiculously out of the way for pre-Portal: Stonard Horde raids that didn't have Atiesh. |
| 19:27.33 | nevcairiel | i guess being alliance was ebtter there, stormwind to duskwood |
| 19:27.38 | Amarande | Much better for Alliance, because SW->Darkshire is a LOT shorter. :) |
| 19:27.46 | nevcairiel | but no-one here had atiesh |
| 19:27.54 | nevcairiel | noone on my server, even |
| 19:28.02 | Dagmar | Bullshit |
| 19:28.07 | nevcairiel | they all just farmed it later in BC |
| 19:28.09 | Amarande | yeah, Atiesh didn't start becoming more frequent on most servers till well after the Stonard portal was available :) |
| 19:28.20 | nevcairiel | so your point sucks and fails |
| 19:28.26 | Dagmar | Horde players just like to whine about everything. |
| 19:28.26 | Arrowmaster | because it was a shit legendary |
| 19:28.28 | Amarande | of course, that's because naxx was so doggone hard :) |
| 19:28.44 | Amarande | even at 70, it was apparently still by no means easy |
| 19:28.53 | nevcairiel | it was |
| 19:29.02 | nevcairiel | you just had to not be dumb |
| 19:29.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah at 70 people pugged it |
| 19:29.06 | Amarande | although, granted, you were probably using a 20 or 25 man raid at 70, 40 70s were probably cake |
| 19:29.52 | Xenofon | hey, I got a quick question. I haven't played WoW in 1.5 years. Been reading about Cataclysm, so I thought maybe I'd start playing again. I downloaded the game and logged on to my old server. I noticed it's pretty much gone to shit since I last played. The alliance to horde ratio is pretty low, around 9 horde for 1 alliance. Is this a common thing on many servers? |
| 19:29.52 | Amarande | anyway, the point is, those shadowmourne rewards would seem to make it worth it to do ICC even at 85 |
| 19:30.01 | Amarande | with things like the crimson deathcharger and sylvanas' music box |
| 19:30.15 | Dagmar | Xenofon: If it's a PvP server then yes. |
| 19:30.18 | Amarande | I didn't even KNOW about sylvanas' music box till today. that's probably worth 200k+ I imagine :) |
| 19:30.19 | Arrowmaster | Xenofon: yes, the entire game has gone to shit |
| 19:30.22 | Xenofon | yes it is PvP |
| 19:30.29 | Amarande | Xenofon: is it a low population PvP server? |
| 19:30.38 | Dagmar | Xenofon: Of course that's normal. No one plays PvP because they want a fair challenge. |
| 19:30.41 | Xenofon | Blizzard calls it "medium population". |
| 19:30.53 | Dagmar | The vast majority of PvP players just want easy wins. |
| 19:30.56 | Amarande | actually, most PvP servers tend to be Horde heavy, from what I've seen |
| 19:31.14 | Arrowmaster | all PvP servers are asshat heavy |
| 19:31.25 | Xenofon | But I logged on twice, once at midnight eastern and once during the day, and noticed that there was next to no alliance around. |
| 19:31.27 | durcyn | all wow players are cretins of some sort, pick your poison |
| 19:31.27 | Amarande | I'm not sure I even know a PvP server that's majority alliance |
| 19:31.33 | Dagmar | ...so the moment you spread a rumor (even on a server where the two sides are even) that one side is losing to the other, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because people quit the "losing" side in droves |
| 19:31.44 | greppy | == Arrowmaster |
| 19:31.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: and the ones that lose too much just quit or go to other servers, too |
| 19:32.04 | Amarande | This actually was one of the reasons my warlock had to transfer servers. FROM A PVE SERVER. |
| 19:32.11 | Amarande | PvP fallout killed her on Turalyon, ultimately. |
| 19:32.18 | Amarande | during BC, that is |
| 19:32.25 | Xenofon | I am not familiar with Blizzard policy anymore, so what happens when it comes to this, when you have 10 horde for every alliance member on a server? Do they do anything? Do they let it be? |
| 19:32.28 | Amarande | she's back on Turalyon now, since LK has been better |
| 19:32.39 | Amarande | Xenofon: they let it be. :) |
| 19:32.45 | Arrowmaster | Xenofon: sometimes they open up free transfers but mostly they let it be |
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| 19:33.06 | Amarande | players are free to roll whichever faction they want, you pay the price in the form of ridiculously long battleground queues when things get out of balance. :) |
| 19:33.15 | Xenofon | No free char transfers offered for it, I checked. |
| 19:33.25 | nevcairiel | WoW is a PVE game, people need to realize this :) |
| 19:33.30 | Amarande | They really only do free character transfers if the server itself is overfull |
| 19:33.41 | Dagmar | Mainly because the moment they formally say "Hey, alliance on this server are heavily outnumbered" a crapload of alliance people say "Okay, I'm out" and a ton of asshats transfer in on Horde side |
| 19:33.47 | nevcairiel | They just converted one pvp server to pve in europe |
| 19:33.52 | Amarande | And I'm not sure they do them as often now, because there's always a lot of extremely justified crying associated with every free transfer cycle. |
| 19:34.03 | Xenofon | So if I were to rejoin, I would probably spend most of my gaming time looking for a group to raid with, since there seem to be so few people on the alliance side. |
| 19:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | And there's a population that will BOOM when cata comes out, why make changes now? |
| 19:34.13 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yeah, but that's "justified" by your standard |
| 19:34.13 | Amarande | As I've mentioned here before, I don't think they've EVER done a free transfer cycle that hasn't resulted in crying and pain for a not insignificant number of players. |
| 19:34.31 | Xenofon | yeah |
| 19:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | They threatened once to do a forced migration on Argent Dawn, and there was much angst. |
| 19:34.35 | Amarande | Dagmar: you're saying that a guild that expected to be able to use the free transfer and then had half of them stranded on the early server due to an early closure of transfers is NOT justified QQ? |
| 19:34.40 | Amarande | that's what happens. |
| 19:34.41 | nevcairiel | there is always crying, if they do something, and if they dont do anything there is still crying |
| 19:34.42 | industrial | Is it possible to know when a new BuffFrame# frame is created? I want to add them all as children to my own frame and expand that frame's width to the amount of buffs present and setpoint it centered so it grows from the center of the screen above my char.. |
| 19:35.10 | Amarande | guild tries to migrate, halfway through guild members going over, Blizz decides their quotas have been fulfilled, and they stop additional transfers - including CANCELING ones that had already been put in for that hadn't been processed yet |
| 19:35.17 | Dagmar | Amarande: I have no idea about any of the details pertaining to the incident you are talking about |
| 19:35.33 | Amarande | those people are trapped without a guild, and can't even rejoin their previous guild without a total reroll, because usually the target server is then full and thus closed even to paid transfers |
| 19:35.34 | nevcairiel | want to transfer a whole guild, better make sure that everyone clicks in a proper tiem frame. |
| 19:35.39 | nevcairiel | usually guild members are just slackers |
| 19:35.41 | nevcairiel | and then go crying |
| 19:35.53 | Amarande | nevcairiel: or they're on vacation/in school etc. when the transfers start |
| 19:35.53 | Xenofon | Perhaps they should consolidate on their own, without user input. I mean, they know the ratios and numbers best. Why not cut the number of servers to half and rebalance so there are roughly equal horde and alliance on each. |
| 19:36.07 | Dagmar | Sure, the way you say it they screwed up, but for all I know Blizz might have given everyone ample warning that they were nearing the closing point, or that the entire guild decided to transfer two full weeks after the transfers were announced |
| 19:36.22 | nevcairiel | Amarande: sucks to be them. You can't expect those transfers to be open forever, if your guild decides to move, and you're out for a few days .. well, tough luck |
| 19:36.34 | Ackis | my grump-o-metre is increasing every minute today |
| 19:36.37 | Amarande | Dagmar: I don't think I've ever seen a "we are near our quotas and are about to close migrations" announcement. |
| 19:36.49 | Amarande | I've seen only "we have reached our quotas and have closed migrations" announcement. |
| 19:36.51 | Dagmar | Xenofon: Cutting the number of severs in half will um, not double only one side's population man |
| 19:37.00 | Amarande | but canceling already put in for transfers is just half-assed |
| 19:37.08 | Xenofon | that's why I added the second half of the sentence |
| 19:37.28 | Baps | dag: but if they're smart about the matching, they can generally improve balances |
| 19:37.36 | Dagmar | How? |
| 19:37.39 | Baps | ie, alliance heavy with horde heavy |
| 19:37.46 | Amarande | What really would be right is to have a DEFINITE timeframe where people can do the free migration during |
| 19:37.57 | Amarande | rather than this fuzzy timeframe where they close them off at random |
| 19:38.01 | Dagmar | When the majority of PvP players are Horde, it's not like they're going to be able to find a bunch of Alliance-heavy PvP servers |
| 19:38.04 | nevcairiel | If half the server decides to move, its just common sense to close it |
| 19:38.21 | nevcairiel | the target server cant hold everyone, or it ends up having the same problem |
| 19:38.30 | Amarande | nevcairiel: it ends up having the same problem anyway :) |
| 19:38.39 | Amarande | almost every time they do transfers like that, the target server gets queues :) |
| 19:38.40 | nevcairiel | not really |
| 19:38.54 | Dagmar | The "real" solution to this is cross-realm grouping, which will hopefully happen sometime next year |
| 19:39.17 | Amarande | Dagmar: speaking of cross-realm stuff |
| 19:39.25 | Xenofon | So what's the best idea at this point, if I want to get back to WoW? Less pain to just re-roll a brand new char on a more balanced server, or put up with the endless waiting and looking for group when your faction has a tiny number of people and there are not enough groups forming? |
| 19:39.27 | nevcairiel | People just have to realize that moving a whole guild is tricky business, and that it may not work out if you're too slow |
| 19:39.29 | Amarande | are you finding also that since 4.0.1 you can't whisper people in your cross-realm dungeon group unless they're on your realm? |
| 19:39.39 | Amarande | it tells me no such player is currently playing |
| 19:39.46 | Amarande | also you can't ignore them either, you get "player not found" |
| 19:39.50 | Dagmar | No, but it's mainly because I never message them in private |
| 19:39.59 | greppy | Xenofon: have some friends that play? Transfer your character to a server they are on, or roll a new char somewhere. |
| 19:40.02 | Dagmar | It *has* worked in the past tho |
| 19:40.11 | Dagmar | You may have an addon playin gup |
| 19:40.21 | Xenofon | I have no RL friends who play WoW. |
| 19:40.24 | Dagmar | I don't remember if the -Servername part was required or not |
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| 19:40.29 | nevcairiel | virtual friends? .p |
| 19:40.29 | Dagmar | WIM just "deals with it" now |
| 19:40.32 | Amarande | Heya MoonWitch :) |
| 19:40.36 | Xenofon | heh |
| 19:40.40 | Dagmar | Xenofon: I actually doubt that. |
| 19:40.42 | Kaelten | MoonWitch isn't real |
| 19:40.46 | Xenofon | it's true |
| 19:40.50 | Dagmar | You probably have some RL friends who are keeping their WoW habits a secret |
| 19:40.51 | MoonWitch | Yes baby I am ;) |
| 19:40.59 | Lunessa | Xenofon: Re-roll where you vaguely know some people. |
| 19:41.03 | Xenofon | nah, they are married people with kids and stuff |
| 19:41.06 | Amarande | But yeah. Alliance-horde ratios was why I had to transfer from Turalyon to Quel'dorei for several months during late BC. |
| 19:41.09 | Xenofon | no time for games |
| 19:41.17 | MoonWitch | has 2 jobs now :) |
| 19:41.25 | Amarande | I've mentioned this also before. I reached 70 as DPS during the last few months of BC |
| 19:41.35 | Dagmar | Xenofon: How many of the kids are old enough to be able to play WoW? |
| 19:41.36 | Dagmar | L( |
| 19:41.37 | Amarande | ... on a battlegroup which had an overwhelming Horde win ratio in AV |
| 19:41.38 | Dagmar | :) |
| 19:41.42 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Congratulations. Preparing for your role as a sugar momma? |
| 19:41.43 | Amarande | you can see where this rapidly goes south. :) |
| 19:41.49 | Lopeppeppy | I need a sugar momma. |
| 19:41.49 | Xenofon | they are old enough but they look down on WoW |
| 19:41.51 | MoonWitch | Lunessa no as pinp |
| 19:41.54 | nevcairiel | why would you want two jobs :/ |
| 19:42.07 | MoonWitch | well, I have to pick one, both companies wanna hire me |
| 19:42.18 | nevcairiel | ah, that makes more sense |
| 19:42.20 | greppy | doesn't want ONE job, but finds paying the mortgage to be difficult otherwise. |
| 19:42.32 | Lunessa | Big Pimpin' in .be ? |
| 19:42.32 | Amarande | Can't get geared for raids via heroics, because no one wanted you for heroics at that point unless you had raid gear, as heroics at that point were for raiders going for quick badges. (What I would have given for the Dungeon Finder in BC.) |
| 19:42.35 | durcyn | it gets boring fast, greppy. |
| 19:42.39 | MoonWitch | have to wait for their final offers though :) (aka they gotta send me what they wanna pay) |
| 19:42.46 | Amarande | Can't get geared for heroics via 70 regs, because hardly anyone did 70 regs anymore at that point. |
| 19:42.47 | Ackis | asdf |
| 19:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | Final written offers! Get it in writing! |
| 19:43.07 | Amarande | And ... the reason I had to transfer ultimately? Couldn't go for honor epics to get geared to get into heroics that way, because the best source of honor in BC was AV |
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| 19:43.22 | Amarande | and AV queues were three hours + long for a single battle because no Alliance were playing since Horde won too often on Stormstrike |
| 19:43.22 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy: does email count as a "we want you, but we have to get the final offer out but it's a long weekend here"? |
| 19:43.54 | Ackis | Bloodsail Buccaneer faction reputation will remain in-game. Also, to ensure that this change does not negatively affect Cataclysm quest progression in Stranglethorn Vale, Booty Bay Bruisers will now provide reputation up through Exalted. <-- what does that exactly mean? |
| 19:44.04 | greppy | MoonWitch: your response to that is "I look forward to receiving your letter in the mail." |
| 19:44.31 | Amarande | Ackis: I'm not sure. Doesn't encouraging people to slaughter BB actually negatively affect quest progression in STV? :) |
| 19:44.43 | Ackis | that's what I thought |
| 19:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | MoonWitch, nope. Written offer should include salary, benefits, date of start. Anything else, and they can weasel you later. |
| 19:45.19 | Dagmar | Amarande: Not really, because the times that is actually going on are few |
| 19:45.26 | Dagmar | It's not a faction you piss away lightly |
| 19:45.28 | durcyn | it doesn't mean anything, the blizzard employee who posted it is retarded - the only NPC that gave bloodsail rep past revered was in what, Badlands? |
| 19:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | Weasels abound. *serious nod* |
| 19:45.35 | Ackis | Dagmar: goblin rep? |
| 19:45.43 | Ackis | I've grinded to exalted goblin rep twice |
| 19:45.46 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, since the achievements system came in, people actually learned to take goblin rep seriously :) |
| 19:45.47 | Ackis | it's not that hard |
| 19:45.47 | durcyn | what they actually need to do is flag the questgivers are non-attacabkle already |
| 19:45.49 | MoonWitch | cries |
| 19:45.52 | Amarande | ever since the infamous Merrymaker QQ incidents |
| 19:45.52 | Dagmar | Ackis: Steamwheedle Cartel have guys all over |
| 19:46.02 | Lopeppeppy | is a very untrusting soul. |
| 19:46.05 | Amarande | (speaking of which, is that why they took out the need for a quest to level cooking past 225?) |
| 19:46.09 | Dagmar | I wanna see more invisible boxes deployed. |
| 19:46.18 | Dagmar | That new Earthen Ring guy's box is great |
| 19:46.26 | Lopeppeppy | ... box... *snark* |
| 19:46.34 | Amarande | Peppy, are you thinking what I was thinking? :) |
| 19:46.59 | greppy | has a pinky and the brain flashback. |
| 19:46.59 | mikecl | -- extra hack for whiny rogues (are there other kind?) |
| 19:47.00 | mikecl | lul |
| 19:47.02 | Dagmar | So of course, last night I had to report someone with thee goddamn Blizzcon mount trying to stand in the spot where one of the elementals spawn in the tablets quest |
| 19:47.17 | durcyn | euphemisms for genitalia, guys! |
| 19:47.29 | Dagmar | The dude stood there for an hour alternately going AFK and not. |
| 19:47.36 | MoonWitch | mikecl: I speak Dutch :P |
| 19:47.37 | Dagmar | Then the GMs got him |
| 19:47.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, but where are we going to get rubber knickers at a time like this? |
| 19:47.55 | Amarande | Dagmar: is there a specific issue with the Blizzcon mount? |
| 19:48.03 | Dagmar | They should just permaban the dipshits who do that |
| 19:48.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: Nope. |
| 19:48.22 | durcyn | you sure do get mad easily, Amarande |
| 19:48.24 | Dagmar | It's just a large mount and the guy was trying to prove he was an asshole with it |
| 19:48.31 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy, Are you pondering what I'm pondering? "I think so Lunessa, but how will we get murlocs to wear tutus?" |
| 19:48.31 | krka | I think so, Lunessa, but Pete Rose? I mean, can we trust him? |
| 19:48.35 | Amarande | I guess there are a few mounts that you can't really effectively block stuff with though, like the undead horses :) |
| 19:48.39 | mikecl | my hobby is to bathe my elephant in the dalaran fountain |
| 19:48.54 | Amarande | heh, I don't use my mammoths so much since one of them killed me |
| 19:49.25 | Dagmar | If someone's life is so miserable that the best thing they can think of to do with their time is to fuck with other people trying to have a good time, they need to get off the goddamn computer and get some fresh air. |
| 19:49.47 | MoonWitch | agrees |
| 19:50.01 | mikecl | im helping people to stop fishing all day in the fountain to maybe instead get some fresh air |
| 19:50.06 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Or encounter a human being of their preferred gender and orientation who will to that thing with their tonuge. |
| 19:50.29 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: how intriguing, could you elaborate? |
| 19:50.47 | Cairenn | hmmmm, yes, please do! |
| 19:50.47 | durcyn | christ, this channel needs to get laid. |
| 19:50.53 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: I give lessons, and my hourly rate is *quite* reasonable. *wink* |
| 19:50.57 | MoonWitch | durcyn: I agree! |
| 19:51.23 | MoonWitch | Cairenn: we could get a room and make the rest suffer while we quietly are secluded |
| 19:51.31 | Amarande | Afternoon Cairenn :) |
| 19:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hourly rate? What about daily? |
| 19:51.35 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 19:51.44 | Cairenn | and, I'm with Lopeppeppy! |
| 19:51.47 | Amarande | Dagmar: this happens with every expansion pre event |
| 19:51.57 | Amarande | It's just like the asshats who targeted newbie zones with the zombie stuff in the LK pre event |
| 19:51.58 | Lopeppeppy | And what do you charge to wear that sexy paratrooper outfit I mentioned earlier? |
| 19:52.00 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy can come too, the more the merrier |
| 19:52.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, can I, MoonWitch? *purr, giggle* |
| 19:52.15 | Cairenn | mmmm, paratrooper uniform |
| 19:52.22 | Lunessa | My talents can be leased long-term Lopeppeppy. |
| 19:52.28 | Amarande | Which makes me note yet ANOTHER reason why I'm glad to prefer blood elves |
| 19:52.32 | Lopeppeppy | Paratroopers, long term leases, you know the way to my heart Lunessa. |
| 19:52.40 | Dagmar | Amarande: No, it happens with every _event_ |
| 19:52.41 | Amarande | Silvermoon/Eversong tends to be less griefed than other areas in cases where newbie area grief is possible |
| 19:52.48 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, would you prefer to get a lesson from an elf? You could probably hire one... |
| 19:53.08 | Amarande | more popular places like Durotar probably get hit way more |
| 19:53.11 | MoonWitch | also one of the 2 jobs would allow access to porn sites.. I thought it was an important mention right now |
| 19:53.26 | Amarande | (that and I just hate Durotar in general) |
| 19:53.33 | Dagmar | Amarande: There's a few guys on my server that I've reported at the last three holiday events for doing the exact same thing |
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| 19:53.59 | Dagmar | Amarande: If I see them doing it again, I'm going to start making a point of weekly looking through their guild roster and reporting everyone on it with naming violations |
| 19:55.19 | nevcairiel | MoonWitch: it would be more interesting why that is important o.O |
| 19:55.21 | Amarande | sounds like you're on one of the less good servers in the game. |
| 19:55.25 | Amarande | you don't play on Mal'Ganis or something do you? |
| 19:56.25 | MoonWitch | well, it was fun to hear that from my potential boss - "you know, you can even surf for porn here, since we have some pornsites as clients" |
| 19:56.40 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 19:56.51 | Lunessa | hawt |
| 19:56.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:56.57 | dardack | can anyone look at: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142703 and tell me why my button 1. doesn't hve the quiver icon over it? i just see a square outlined, and I can't click it? |
| 19:56.58 | MoonWitch | Ogone - Online Payment Service Provider |
| 19:57.48 | Dagmar | Man, that's a really trustworthy name |
| 19:58.21 | Dagmar | Amarande: As far as i know the issue is a failure of the "escalation volcano" to scale up quickly enough |
| 19:58.34 | Dagmar | As long as the guys are only jackasses "once in a while" they just get a 3-day ban |
| 19:58.45 | MoonWitch | dardack: the icon you selected is an empty button ... |
| 19:58.52 | dardack | it is? |
| 19:59.11 | Dagmar | This is why I'm saying they should just drop the fucking banhammer on these guys in a serious way for violations that involve utterly anti-social and antagonistic behaviou |
| 19:59.12 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 19:59.28 | Dagmar | Make it three damn months and they'll take it seriously |
| 19:59.36 | MoonWitch | also : I can't see if LWIW_sellAllButton is a button (in being declared) or not |
| 19:59.55 | dardack | yea i didn't post that: up at top local LWIW_sellAllButton = CreateFrame("Button", "LWIW_SellItemButton", MerchantFrame) |
| 20:00.10 | dardack | i mean i see the button it's just black |
| 20:00.20 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 20:00.24 | MoonWitch | that's the texture |
| 20:00.25 | dardack | crap |
| 20:00.30 | dardack | hang on |
| 20:01.15 | MoonWitch | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/BUTTONS/UI-Quickslot2.png that's the texture you picked |
| 20:02.06 | MoonWitch | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/BUTTONS/UI-Quickslot-Depress.png is the pushed texture |
| 20:02.34 | dardack | ahh so i gotta put a icon inside |
| 20:02.35 | dardack | doh |
| 20:02.44 | MoonWitch | yep |
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| 20:06.31 | Shirik | ~wiki 4chanistan |
| 20:06.34 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:07.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:07.11 | durcyn | Fisker, preseident of 4chanistan |
| 20:07.21 | nevcairiel | thats actually a well written article :p |
| 20:07.31 | Shirik | it was quite well written, I almost didn't delete it |
| 20:07.34 | amro | fu shirik |
| 20:07.37 | amro | I didn't have enough time ot read |
| 20:07.41 | dardack | ok i think i got an icon, but i still only see a black box: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142704 am I setting the background wrong? |
| 20:07.44 | amro | nominate for FA imo |
| 20:07.58 | Shirik | amro: http://wowi.pastey.net/142705-45pw |
| 20:08.14 | amro | if you're looking at the black box, chances are your script crashed |
| 20:08.16 | amro | yeaaaaaaaaaaah. |
| 20:09.07 | dardack | getting no lua errors, just can't click the button nor does the backgroun poperly show |
| 20:10.18 | adys_ | bad |
| 20:11.57 | batrick | Shirik: how do you see the deleted page ? |
| 20:12.09 | Shirik | by becoming an admin |
| 20:12.15 | batrick | that's fucked up |
| 20:12.21 | batrick | why didn't you wait a day before deleting it |
| 20:12.28 | amro | because he's shirik] |
| 20:12.28 | batrick | did you at least take a screenshot? |
| 20:12.35 | amro | [21:07] <Shirik> amro: http://wowi.pastey.net/142705-45pw |
| 20:12.37 | amro | batrick^ |
| 20:12.38 | Shirik | batrick |
| 20:12.41 | Shirik | yeah |
| 20:12.46 | adys_ | batrick. |
| 20:12.47 | nevcairiel | i still have it open in my browser, i can save the html if you want :p |
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| 20:13.46 | amro | the article is good, it just lacked citations. |
| 20:13.52 | nicoli_s | yay i can hear again! |
| 20:14.01 | Shirik | I wonder why it lacked citations |
| 20:14.01 | nevcairiel | you can't cite 4chan, articles vanish too fast |
| 20:14.06 | Fisker | Shirik nevcairiel |
| 20:16.42 | Fisker | think you can stop me nicoli_s ? |
| 20:18.30 | amro | nevcairiel: yeah, that's the only reason I can think of |
| 20:19.00 | amro | Fisker: I'm pretty sure we can replace you with a bot |
| 20:19.06 | Fisker | you can't |
| 20:19.21 | Fisker | no random number generator can replicate my randomness |
| 20:19.50 | Cairenn | zomg! Where's tek when you want him? http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/e1d0/?cpg=144H |
| 20:20.01 | Cide | who said anything about an rng? |
| 20:20.14 | Cide | we'd just have it do /me Shirik Cide |
| 20:20.24 | Cide | every ten minutes |
| 20:20.40 | Fisker | wouldn't be the same Cide |
| 20:20.48 | Cide | pretty much, Fisker |
| 20:21.05 | amro | but it would be the same Fisker |
| 20:21.06 | nevcairiel | it also needs to do "haste\nwhy do you hate me?" |
| 20:21.29 | amro | are you thinking what I'm thinking? |
| 20:21.30 | krka | Wuh, I think so, amro, but burlap chafes me so. |
| 20:21.33 | Fisker | naw amro |
| 20:22.06 | adys_ | Cairenn, http://i.imgur.com/rLeRy.jpg |
| 20:22.16 | Cairenn | awww |
| 20:22.24 | Cide | is that your laptop adys_ |
| 20:22.25 | adys_ | the sucker's tripled in size in 3 weeks |
| 20:22.27 | adys_ | nah Cide |
| 20:22.33 | Cide | ok |
| 20:22.42 | Ackis | cute adys_ |
| 20:22.59 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:23.03 | Shirik | I copied a title from Acrobat |
| 20:23.06 | Shirik | here's what it came out as |
| 20:23.09 | Shirik | |
| 20:23.25 | nevcairiel | a arrow pointing upwards? |
| 20:23.27 | durcyn | that's unicode for "We're Adobe, Get Fucked" |
| 20:23.29 | Shirik | it's supposed to say "System Safety for the 21st Century" |
| 20:23.37 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 20:23.57 | nevcairiel | you probably copied some metadata, try selecting less :p |
| 20:23.58 | amro | Shirik: there's a codepoint for "System Safety for the 21st Century" |
| 20:24.02 | amro | everybody's using it. |
| 20:24.30 | Fisker | durcyn |
| 20:24.35 | Fisker | everybody's mean to me :( |
| 20:24.37 | durcyn | Fisker |
| 20:24.40 | durcyn | you earned it |
| 20:24.44 | Fisker | nahuh |
| 20:24.48 | durcyn | and you enjoy the attention, negative or otherwise |
| 20:25.04 | adys_ | i decrypted that glyph using my advanced csi-patented algorithms, Shirik |
| 20:25.08 | dardack | sightearing hair out, |
| 20:25.12 | adys_ | it came out as "Lol you're using Acrobat" |
| 20:25.19 | Fisker | :O |
| 20:25.23 | Fisker | that's like castle |
| 20:25.28 | Fisker | "zoom in on that reflection!" |
| 20:25.35 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:25.42 | nevcairiel | its nothing like csi |
| 20:26.03 | MoonWitch | i think i will go to bed |
| 20:26.09 | amro | http://www.marlamin.nl/csi/ |
| 20:26.14 | amro | going to spend the next 15 minutes clicking that |
| 20:26.17 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VxE6wDSKL4 |
| 20:26.17 | MoonWitch | i was up at 6am :*( |
| 20:26.24 | Cide | looks pretty fun |
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| 20:26.48 | adys_ | amro |
| 20:26.55 | adys_ | just make sure you don't... |
| 20:26.56 | nevcairiel | Fisker: http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9066/csigb.jpg |
| 20:26.58 | adys_ | shades |
| 20:27.00 | adys_ | Get addicted. |
| 20:27.04 | adys_ | (YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH) |
| 20:27.10 | amro | nevcairiel killed your groove |
| 20:27.14 | MoonWitch | amro, I have that link bookmarked >.< |
| 20:27.20 | kd3|netbook | smirks, thinking of the new westfall storyline |
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| 20:27.22 | amro | I have it memorized |
| 20:27.39 | adys_ | kd3, hehe |
| 20:28.52 | MoonWitch | i a, so tired i'd fall asleep mid thing people do with tongues... |
| 20:29.10 | Lopeppeppy | Then someone isn't doing their job right! :) |
| 20:29.14 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or didnt that line make a whole lot of sense |
| 20:29.46 | MoonWitch | I'll rephraze ... I am so tired, I'd fall asleep while having sex. |
| 20:30.01 | nevcairiel | thats more clear, thanks |
| 20:30.06 | MoonWitch | yvw |
| 20:31.04 | MoonWitch | oh yes, my bmi also finally went to 30 -- so I am getting so back to healthy :) |
| 20:31.19 | MoonWitch | is going to take contacts out and sleep |
| 20:31.23 | MoonWitch | love you all |
| 20:31.41 | nevcairiel | good night |
| 20:31.53 | MoonWitch | except this one dude in the chan, who's currently not in - or Cide would be having heartattacks |
| 20:32.41 | Cide | I never have heart attacks |
| 20:32.44 | Cide | only personal attacks |
| 20:32.48 | Lunessa | He's too healthy for that. |
| 20:32.53 | nevcairiel | cide likes trolling flowy |
| 20:32.59 | amro | I would've gone for "he doesn't have a heart" |
| 20:33.03 | Fisker | så er det snart jul nevcairiel |
| 20:33.04 | amro | but healthy works. |
| 20:33.08 | MoonWitch | nev instantly got me |
| 20:33.14 | amro | quit talking in viking |
| 20:33.21 | Cide | I'm eating porridge right now |
| 20:33.25 | Cide | super-healthy |
| 20:33.34 | MoonWitch | there are healthier foods |
| 20:33.45 | Cide | hey |
| 20:33.49 | nevcairiel | Fisker: google fails to understand you |
| 20:34.22 | MoonWitch | she is the |
| 20:34.24 | dardack | sigh got it finally i'm an idiot, i set the points for the texture but not the actual button, sigh |
| 20:34.38 | MoonWitch | I think he's saying something along the lines that I like you or something |
| 20:34.50 | MoonWitch | or that I am a fan |
| 20:34.50 | Cide | just because I'm not sup healthiness doesn't mean I'm inf healthiness |
| 20:35.05 | MoonWitch | (I am going from the assumption that sa is she lol) |
| 20:35.07 | Fisker | bam nevcairiel |
| 20:35.21 | nevcairiel | ~x dk en så er det snart jul nevcairiel |
| 20:35.43 | dardack | um can I not do: print("Selling x%s %s worth %s", LWIW_SellList[i][2], LWIW_SellList[i][1], (GetCoinTextureString((LWIW_SellList[i][3])))) ? |
| 20:35.49 | nevcairiel | purl isnt much smarter, i suppose |
| 20:35.55 | nevcairiel | ~ping |
| 20:35.55 | purl | ~pong |
| 20:35.57 | Cide | lua.org/pil |
| 20:36.19 | Cide | but yes, that's syntactically valid assuming your 53 parentheses are matched |
| 20:36.23 | Fisker | you will never figure it out nevcairiel |
| 20:36.40 | nevcairiel | syntax is valid, yes, semantic is wrong, i would assume |
| 20:36.52 | dardack | hmm it doesn't work, it actually prints selling x%s %s worth %s then the actual values |
| 20:36.52 | nevcairiel | you want a format() in there |
| 20:37.06 | Cide | ^ |
| 20:37.10 | nevcairiel | print(format(pattern, value, value,...)) |
| 20:37.14 | Cide | it's wonderful how much pil teaches you |
| 20:37.22 | dardack | ahh ty |
| 20:37.45 | dardack | i normally do "blah"..var.." "..etc. but figured i would try and clean it up a bit |
| 20:38.05 | Cide | how did you learn about the %s syntax? |
| 20:38.17 | nevcairiel | he probably figured print=printf |
| 20:38.18 | MoonWitch | oh Cairenn? I lost another clothing size -- I can now carry our mini yorkshire in my bra together with stuff that normally goes into the bra :D |
| 20:38.27 | cbreak | format strings are in the lua manual |
| 20:38.35 | cbreak | very easy to find :) |
| 20:38.39 | cbreak | also look at %q |
| 20:38.42 | Cide | cbreak: one would think the lua manual also mentions format() then. |
| 20:38.58 | Ackis | awww http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/11/05/dnt.dog.defines.loyalty.wfaa?iref=allsearch I waited for you fry |
| 20:38.59 | cbreak | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.format |
| 20:39.09 | cbreak | it does. |
| 20:39.13 | Cide | and one would think googling for "lua printf" also turns up something useful |
| 20:39.13 | Fisker | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 20:39.36 | dardack | sorry guess i coulda looked at the manual, i take my cobol/c++/vb knowledge and muck around cause i went into law enforcement so just do 4 addons on the side for fun |
| 20:39.42 | dardack | and yea assumed printf |
| 20:39.56 | Cide | I'm not sure how you can end up with a syntactically correct string formatting string and not knowing how to find the function name |
| 20:40.18 | nevcairiel | if you assume its printf, and already know printf, its not too far fetched to try %s |
| 20:40.21 | dardack | cause i know from taking apart item links %s is string % is numbers |
| 20:40.30 | dardack | %d |
| 20:40.40 | Cide | nevcairiel: you may assume but you may not bother me if you don't look up docs first |
| 20:41.07 | dardack | and normally i do, i just dind't realize there was a special format command |
| 20:41.12 | MoonWitch | Cide, what I had looked up the docs, but didn't understand? Would it then be permissible to ask? |
| 20:41.20 | Cide | yep |
| 20:41.24 | dardack | like i said normally i go print("text"..var.."text"..etc) |
| 20:41.25 | nevcairiel | you say that now |
| 20:41.26 | MoonWitch | cool :) |
| 20:41.32 | nevcairiel | but in reality you would just throw pil at them again |
| 20:41.33 | Cide | nevcairiel: hm? |
| 20:41.37 | MoonWitch | ok bed i can't form sentences. |
| 20:41.49 | MoonWitch | hugs Cairenn |
| 20:41.55 | MoonWitch | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 20:41.57 | Cairenn | night MoonWitch, and grats |
| 20:42.00 | Cide | not if they go "I looked up http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.format and it said to use print(...) but it's not working" |
| 20:42.02 | Cairenn | (sorry, was afk) |
| 20:42.11 | dardack | but for some reason i did a printf and was wondering if possible to do that way, didn't even think to look for that, but most simple stuff i do tutorials and such |
| 20:42.13 | MoonWitch | (is ok) |
| 20:42.25 | nevcairiel | Cide: you would throw pil at them again, because it obviously does not say print :p |
| 20:42.30 | MoonWitch | (oh tell Seerah I said hugs for her too :P) |
| 20:42.33 | Cide | hence the question would never occur |
| 20:42.54 | dardack | going back to coding, sorry i bothered ya with a question answered in manual |
| 20:42.58 | Cide | but feel free to ask Lulia how I acted when he/she had problems but had looked up docs |
| 20:43.13 | nevcairiel | you kicked and screamed? |
| 20:43.36 | adys_ | .ss extension is for Scheme yeah? |
| 20:43.44 | nevcairiel | maybe the manual needs enhanceing if people dont understand it anyhow =) |
| 20:44.38 | dardack | ok is it acceptable to ask without having to click through all the interface button png's, a like trash icon or something like that? only if someone knows off top of head otherwise i gotta look through em all |
| 20:44.54 | Cide | nevcairiel: people don't read it, that's its only downfall |
| 20:45.08 | Cide | you already asked |
| 20:45.16 | Cide | however |
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| 20:45.25 | nevcairiel | meta questions are worse then stupid questions, imho! |
| 20:45.27 | Cide | I tend to have the best luck by going to, say, wowhead and looking up items |
| 20:45.41 | Cide | and checking their icon name from that |
| 20:49.03 | Amarande | good lord you'd think queued for H Sethekk and reg MgT and BM that at least one of them would pop in a reasonable time |
| 20:49.27 | Amarande | especially H Sethekk, which one may as well queue for daily from the time one hits honored with LC till dinging 76 and no longer being able to |
| 20:53.01 | adys_ | Amazon reminders are so annoying |
| 20:53.38 | adys_ | it's like a merchant checking you out while you're shopping and saying "hey, you were staring at this product for ages but didnt buy it, you sure you don't wanna buy it? you sure? hey, you sure? look at it again -- you sure? look at it!" |
| 20:54.00 | adys_ | look at it! now look at me! now look back at it -- the product is now diamonds. |
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| 20:55.35 | Cide | win |
| 20:57.15 | adys_ | psych today, mentalist tomorrow |
| 20:57.17 | adys_ | <3 |
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| 20:59.01 | Shirik | Nancy Leveson is a genius |
| 20:59.05 | adys_ | No you |
| 20:59.20 | Cide | me too |
| 20:59.47 | Shirik | woah woah woah |
| 20:59.49 | Shirik | what is this new google crap |
| 21:00.05 | Shirik | I'm not sure I like all this stuff google is introducing |
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| 21:00.19 | Cide | Shirik likes more... traditional elements |
| 21:00.52 | Cide | are your planes constructed from pure iron also? |
| 21:01.12 | Shirik | wood actually |
| 21:01.13 | Lopeppeppy | They sure aren't plastic crap that falls apart... |
| 21:01.26 | Cide | there you go |
| 21:01.46 | adys_ | Shirik, introduce us to this introduction |
| 21:01.53 | adys_ | in other words, wtfrutalkingabout |
| 21:01.53 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:02.02 | Cide | hover previews |
| 21:02.04 | Shirik | wood planes |
| 21:02.07 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:02.08 | Shirik | yeah and that |
| 21:02.16 | adys_ | previews are on click for me |
| 21:02.20 | adys_ | they're labbed :P |
| 21:02.24 | adys_ | and |
| 21:02.25 | Lopeppeppy | I don't see the previews either. |
| 21:02.26 | adys_ | wood planes? |
| 21:02.28 | adys_ | link? |
| 21:02.37 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:02.44 | Shirik | ~faildys |
| 21:02.44 | purl | FAIL, Adys, FAIL! |
| 21:02.45 | Cide | adys fail is fail |
| 21:02.51 | Cide | oh nice |
| 21:02.56 | adys_ | im not reading the fucking chan :P |
| 21:03.02 | Arrowmaster | in ohio we make our planes out of basla wood and cloth |
| 21:03.03 | adys_ | Lopeppeppy, there is a magnifying glass icon next to search results if you're in the on-click lab |
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| 21:03.23 | adys_ | and there is a hover effect if you're in the... |
| 21:03.25 | adys_ | shades |
| 21:03.27 | adys_ | hoverlab. |
| 21:03.30 | adys_ | YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH. |
| 21:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | Thank god I'm in the clicklab. I guess. |
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| 21:04.39 | Cide | I don't see how it's such a big deal |
| 21:04.42 | Cide | you mouse over a link and it shows up a preview to the right in previously unused space |
| 21:04.49 | Cide | don't look there if it's a big deal imo |
| 21:05.02 | alestane | How D&D has changed, Lunessa: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/11/10/ |
| 21:05.05 | adys_ | i can see why it's annoying tbh |
| 21:05.18 | adys_ | "intelli-ads are not annoying! at all!" |
| 21:05.25 | Cide | I can see why your mom's annoying tbh |
| 21:05.33 | Lunessa | alestane: WOOOO! |
| 21:06.18 | TC-Work | alestane: really? you had the tomb of handjobs? |
| 21:06.27 | adys_ | 6 hours till the ep is up |
| 21:06.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:06.30 | adys_ | do i sleep.. |
| 21:06.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. |
| 21:07.02 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is for the weak. The sane, well-adjusted weak, but the weak, nevertheless. Sleeeeeep. |
| 21:07.27 | cogwheel | lua> local t = { "Mine", "Star", "World of War" }; print(t[math.random(#t)]) |
| 21:07.27 | lua_bot | cogwheel: Mine |
| 21:07.32 | Fisker | i have socks cogwheel |
| 21:07.37 | Fisker | do you? |
| 21:07.44 | cogwheel | indeed |
| 21:07.47 | Lopeppeppy | Cogwheel will not wear socks in box. |
| 21:08.01 | Fisker | i box in socks |
| 21:08.40 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 21:08.42 | Fisker | in socks |
| 21:08.43 | Lunessa | alestane: The news post for that is also worth the read. |
| 21:08.55 | Shirik | (16:07:17) (cogwheel) lua> local t = { "Mine", "Star", "World of War" }; print(t[math.random(#t)]) |
| 21:09.03 | Shirik | lua> local t = { "Mine", "Star", "World of War" }; print(t[math.random(#t)] .. "craft") |
| 21:09.03 | lua_bot | Shirik: Minecraft |
| 21:09.04 | Shirik | better |
| 21:09.11 | Cide | nope |
| 21:09.13 | cogwheel | s/better/more obvious/ |
| 21:09.15 | Cide | it's StarCraft |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 21:09.32 | Fisker | it's ESSCEE TOO |
| 21:10.48 | Fisker | so someone said their WP7 phone was sent last friday |
| 21:10.54 | Fisker | and i was like "Maybe someone stole in the mail" |
| 21:10.57 | Fisker | but then i was like "oh wait" |
| 21:11.58 | Shirik | oh wait |
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| 21:12.59 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: you wouldnt steal a WP7 phone |
| 21:13.19 | Fisker | exactly |
| 21:14.13 | Kraps | http://thisisindexed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/card27351.jpg |
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| 21:15.29 | Cide | comics having as many issues as software? totally not the case |
| 21:16.02 | Xyphoid | it's a pun |
| 21:16.12 | Cide | I'm aware |
| 21:16.18 | Cide | still the case though |
| 21:16.18 | Kraps | Cide: you're reading it wrong |
| 21:16.23 | Cide | how so? |
| 21:16.27 | Kraps | on purpose :p |
| 21:17.16 | Cide | I don't think I am :P |
| 21:17.27 | Kraps | they're not giving a finite number |
| 21:17.35 | Fisker | i disdisagree with Kraps |
| 21:17.37 | Cide | doesn't matter |
| 21:17.42 | Fisker | with Cide i mean |
| 21:17.43 | Kraps | its "as x increases" |
| 21:18.07 | Cide | it can be read as "software and comic books have the same number of issues" |
| 21:18.17 | Cide | disregarding the y axis |
| 21:19.10 | Kraps | so dont disregard it :p |
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| 21:19.34 | Cide | the above reading doesn't change |
| 21:20.06 | Cide | it just doesn't incorporate the fact that the y axis gives you ("comic books have 4 times the fans of software") |
| 21:20.42 | syrae | Cide: you're assuming scale for the axis |
| 21:21.05 | Cide | which only matters for the y axis |
| 21:21.07 | Fisker | i know how to solve this |
| 21:21.09 | Fisker | your mother |
| 21:21.14 | Cide | you can disregard the 4 then |
| 21:21.21 | Xyphoid | what makes you think it's a graph, it's clearly a map of a bookshop |
| 21:21.31 | Fisker | i'm the macgyver of discussions |
| 21:21.36 | Kraps | Xyphoid: i lold |
| 21:21.47 | Cide | that wouldn't make sense |
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| 21:22.07 | Cide | regardless |
| 21:22.18 | adys_ | Fisker, Yeah, you manage to express yourself with only very few of the required tools in a discussion (a brain, an education, opinions) |
| 21:22.38 | Cide | "software and comic books have the same number of issues" is the correct interpretation in all scales |
| 21:22.51 | adys_ | cide you do realize the graph is a pun |
| 21:22.55 | Cide | yes |
| 21:23.13 | Cide | but even so it can be interpreted |
| 21:23.17 | Cide | and I don't think it's correct |
| 21:23.26 | adys_ | yeah it is correct if you interpret it correctly |
| 21:23.29 | dardack | i have looked, but can't seem to find, do tga files have to be a certain exact size to be used inside your addon? I saw that it needs to be 24bit with alpha channel |
| 21:23.32 | industrial | "comic books have more fans then software books" |
| 21:23.50 | Cide | I don't think that's the correct interpretation industrial :P |
| 21:23.53 | Arrowmaster | dardack: powers of 2 i think |
| 21:24.03 | adys_ | "the software field and the comic book field have as many issues as the other" |
| 21:24.13 | adys_ | you disregard where the issues are present |
| 21:24.13 | Kraps | [04:16:25]<Kraps>Cide: you're reading it wrong |
| 21:24.15 | Kraps | [04:16:34]<Kraps>on purpose |
| 21:24.17 | industrial | well according to the graph they do, and also enjoy the same number of issues |
| 21:24.18 | Arrowmaster | dardack: try http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15439 |
| 21:24.26 | Cide | how is it to be read then, Kraps? |
| 21:24.33 | Xyphoid | the joke's supposed to be 'when comics get more issues they get more fans, and when software gets more issues it gets less fans' |
| 21:24.53 | Cide | that's not true either |
| 21:25.04 | Cide | comics get more issues when they get more fans |
| 21:25.24 | industrial | clearly software aswell, just less then comic books |
| 21:25.31 | Cide | no |
| 21:25.38 | Cide | software issues are related to the complexity |
| 21:25.42 | nicoli_s | how many ircers does it take to get a webcomic joke? |
| 21:25.50 | Kalroth | 5 |
| 21:25.50 | industrial | why? from (0,0) it's not as steep as the comic books' |
| 21:26.03 | dardack | does the image have to exist before wow loads? |
| 21:26.10 | adys_ | nicoli_s, more than you can draw |
| 21:26.10 | Cide | there are only two data points |
| 21:26.15 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:26.18 | industrial | and they are both linear as far as the supplied data goes |
| 21:26.21 | Cide | no |
| 21:26.26 | Kraps | in a x/y graph, is only one axis affecting the other or do they affect each other equally? |
| 21:26.30 | Cide | you can't infer anything about that, industrial |
| 21:26.35 | Xyphoid | this is terrible let's argue about how xkcd sucks instead |
| 21:26.43 | adys_ | XKCD SUX |
| 21:26.44 | Cide | Kraps: can't infer anything about that |
| 21:27.00 | Kraps | its a general question |
| 21:27.03 | Maldivia | dardack: the file needs to be present when you start wow |
| 21:27.05 | adys_ | topic closed |
| 21:27.14 | Cide | and generally it can be either case |
| 21:27.14 | adys_ | lets argue about how much awesome is in psych |
| 21:27.18 | adys_ | and how "psych" means awesome |
| 21:27.22 | Cide | commonly the x scale and y scale are related |
| 21:27.31 | adys_ | BY THE WAY did I mention theres a new ep out today. |
| 21:27.35 | Cide | but they don't have to be |
| 21:27.38 | adys_ | with Desperaux. |
| 21:27.42 | dardack | ok but if it's not in correct format it wont' show, what if i put an image after wow is started with same name but correct dimensions, do i have to restart wow ? |
| 21:28.05 | adys_ | dardack, you have to restart wow yes |
| 21:28.14 | dardack | sigh, ok ty |
| 21:28.18 | adys_ | the Interface/ folder is only scanned once (on load) |
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| 21:28.22 | Maldivia | you don't have to restart wow if changing an existing file |
| 21:28.26 | dardack | oh nice |
| 21:28.29 | dardack | ty |
| 21:28.31 | adys_ | yeah |
| 21:28.38 | adys_ | only if you're changing the file structure |
| 21:28.40 | Maldivia | but for textures, you might need to reload the ui |
| 21:28.50 | adys_ | well yeah obv |
| 21:28.58 | Ackis | now has 142 WoW Mini-pets |
| 21:29.08 | adys_ | Ackis |
| 21:29.09 | adys_ | I have more than you |
| 21:29.19 | Ackis | you have that EU only pet somehow |
| 21:29.24 | adys_ | hey Ackis |
| 21:29.26 | Shirik | he is a cheater |
| 21:29.27 | adys_ | you mean Lurky? |
| 21:29.31 | Ackis | yeah |
| 21:29.36 | adys_ | isn't that only one pet? |
| 21:29.41 | adys_ | one pet you can't get, that I have. |
| 21:29.42 | Ackis | I don't have Lurky, Murky or Murkimus |
| 21:29.44 | adys_ | One pet. |
| 21:29.47 | adys_ | Oh, Murkimus. |
| 21:29.55 | adys_ | You don't have Murkimus either. You can't get it huh. |
| 21:30.04 | adys_ | Can't get Murkimus. Can't get Lurky. Too bad. I have them. |
| 21:30.12 | Ackis | shrugs |
| 21:30.22 | Ackis | it bothers me less and less each day tbh |
| 21:30.22 | adys_ | You could have 144 but you don't. I do. |
| 21:30.32 | Ackis | my obsession has moved on to other things |
| 21:30.48 | durcyn | Murky is the only pet i use anymore |
| 21:30.59 | adys_ | I'll make sure your new obsessions are matched by my starvation for eu-only shit you can't get |
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| 21:31.42 | Ackis | get me a lurky code to show the world that you're really capable of doing something |
| 21:31.55 | Shirik | omg |
| 21:31.57 | adys_ | fine |
| 21:32.00 | Shirik | I'm so doing this for christmas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shirik/Sandbox |
| 21:32.00 | adys_ | i can give you my lurky code. |
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| 21:32.06 | bleeter | anyone else noticed how the Reindeer mount buff has regressed to BC release bugginess ;) |
| 21:32.07 | Ackis | it's used |
| 21:32.11 | Shirik | I didn't know that was possible |
| 21:32.16 | adys_ | WELL THATS TOOBAD ISNT IT |
| 21:32.32 | Ackis | http://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis#col if you care adys_ |
| 21:32.47 | adys_ | trust me, i dont, i just enjoy pissing you off |
| 21:33.01 | Ackis | you aren't though |
| 21:33.03 | Ackis | =/ |
| 21:33.10 | Ackis | I just don't care enough anymore |
| 21:33.19 | adys_ | Tell me about your new obsession so i can feed on that |
| 21:33.34 | Ackis | xbox achievements and even then I'm starting to not give a damn |
| 21:33.41 | Ackis | isn't giving a damn about much lately |
| 21:33.45 | Kraps | you guys are discussing this idiocy so you do care :p |
| 21:34.06 | Amarande | 1800+ DPS already at 71, in mostly outland gear. |
| 21:34.14 | bleeter | Ackis: Pre-patch blues, eh? |
| 21:34.19 | Amarande | I'm not sure how some hunters fail so hard, since I've heard of ones who do less than that AT 80. |
| 21:34.50 | Ackis | bleeter: don't even want to play cataclysm |
| 21:35.07 | bleeter | Ackis: ooh, you have got it bad ain't ya ;) |
| 21:35.11 | Ackis | never had fun with wrath at all |
| 21:35.23 | adys_ | i did |
| 21:35.27 | adys_ | for the first 40 hours |
| 21:35.39 | adys_ | then i dinged 80 and stopped caring \o/ |
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| 21:36.10 | Ackis | I didn't even hit 80 before I stopped caring, if I cared I would've got server first troll and priest |
| 21:36.32 | adys_ | so what you're saying is, even if you did care, you would still have been worse than me. |
| 21:36.35 | Ackis | instead I logged out, watched a movie and went to sleep lol |
| 21:36.41 | Nexiuz | Cooldown:SetCooldown(GetTime(), 20) only works when you are fully logged in? When my addon is getting enabled I create a cooldown frame and start the animation but nothing happens, if I start then the animation with /run then it works fine. Anyone know what the requirements are for starting the animation (must the frame be showned? I tried it with :SetScript("OnShow", start animation...) etc) |
| 21:36.46 | Ackis | exactly adys_ |
| 21:36.49 | Kraps | Ackis: i felt the same way but the cata event quests are getting me in the spirit |
| 21:36.54 | Ackis | you're better at a virtual game |
| 21:37.03 | Ackis | Kraps: I logged in long enough to get the FoS and that was it |
| 21:37.06 | Ackis | I do ZG once a week no |
| 21:37.06 | adys_ | dude I can't do this with you. quit being so easy to be competitive with. |
| 21:37.07 | Ackis | *now |
| 21:37.11 | bleeter | cata event < zombie invasion |
| 21:37.34 | Lunessa | Ackis: Is there something you need to tell us? http://www.fmylife.com/health/13777689 |
| 21:38.03 | Ackis | she's not pregos, I might be excited about that :P |
| 21:38.25 | adys_ | Ackis, the question is, are you? |
| 21:38.38 | Ackis | with a baby elephant and the trunk is hanging out |
| 21:38.40 | adys_ | Nexiuz, try to start the cd after PLAYER_ENTER_WORLD |
| 21:39.39 | Nexiuz | I give it a try |
| 21:39.58 | adys_ | Lunessa, "#17 is now the spokesman for Men : the new political party sweeping the nation. if i were gay, id suck your dick" |
| 21:40.01 | adys_ | Some political party that is |
| 21:40.33 | Lunessa | I didn't read the comments, just the initial FML |
| 21:40.36 | Kraps | why do gawker media sites use such a shitty video player? |
| 21:40.52 | adys_ | Kraps, because there is no good video player in flash |
| 21:40.58 | adys_ | because there is no good app in flash in general |
| 21:42.56 | nicoli_s | that one is especially terrible though |
| 21:43.07 | nicoli_s | and i can never tell if the hd button is selected or not |
| 21:43.38 | adys_ | PEBDROW |
| 21:43.46 | adys_ | problem exists between designer and rest of the world |
| 21:43.59 | nicoli_s | lol i like that |
| 21:44.34 | Fisker | gooddie Shirik |
| 21:44.35 | Fisker | GEDDIT? |
| 21:44.42 | Fisker | instead of bye i wrote die |
| 21:44.48 | adys_ | purl, pebdrow is <reply> Problem exists between designer and rest of the world |
| 21:44.48 | purl | okay, adys_ |
| 21:44.51 | Shirik | If Microsoft introduced a concept into their operating system which caused it to shut down a program if tampering were detected, do you think people would stop buying it? |
| 21:44.54 | Ackis | adys_: do you have a 360? |
| 21:44.57 | adys_ | nop |
| 21:45.05 | bleeter | dolby: I know some authors don't use it, but it'd kinda be nice if the email notifications of addon updates included the changelog entry. |
| 21:45.06 | adys_ | havent owned consoles in like 8 years |
| 21:45.08 | Fisker | buy what Shirik |
| 21:45.14 | Shirik | Windows |
| 21:45.20 | industrial | hahahahaha |
| 21:45.29 | Fisker | you mean like a chocolate candy? |
| 21:45.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 21:45.36 | bleeter | Shirik: I thought they did that with some of their driver DRM foo already |
| 21:45.48 | industrial | Fisker: do you like fishsticks? |
| 21:45.48 | Shirik | do they? |
| 21:46.01 | Fisker | no industrial |
| 21:47.09 | adys_ | alright, time to sleep and wake up in 5 hours exactly to dl psych and have sweet, sweet orgasm on video. |
| 21:47.11 | adys_ | night |
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| 21:47.51 | bleeter | Shirik: I seem to recall stuff about auto-driver-disabling or somesuch, though tbh I can't recall if that was merely proposed or actually went to implementation |
| 21:48.51 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ipQYocce0&feature=player_embedded hoooo yeah |
| 21:49.41 | alestane | someone has a strange sense of humor: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-22260.html |
| 21:50.07 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:50.35 | industrial | lol |
| 21:50.58 | Dagmar | My question is what does he use those quarters for normally? |
| 21:51.13 | Cide | my question is what kind of fucked up sorting they have on comments |
| 21:51.27 | Cide | why would you ever sort on the sum of up-downvotes |
| 21:51.44 | Cide | tracing conversations is impossible |
| 21:51.52 | Cide | or replies rather |
| 21:52.08 | Fisker | Cide |
| 21:52.11 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 21:52.18 | Fisker | because he called me a bot |
| 21:52.47 | kd3|netbook | alestane, the hell? |
| 21:53.05 | bleeter | Fisker: u r a bot |
| 21:53.08 | Fisker | you can say that kd3|netbook ? |
| 21:57.34 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsBRfmErTEA |
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| 22:00.45 | Nexiuz | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is not working |
| 22:00.58 | Nexiuz | it seems that the animation is started but I cant display it |
| 22:01.08 | Nexiuz | the cooldown frame is shown |
| 22:01.29 | Nexiuz | if i do a SetCooldown(GetTime(), 200), nothing happens |
| 22:01.48 | Nexiuz | if I do SetCooldown(0, 0) and after that SetCooldown(GetTime(), 200) then it shows it |
| 22:02.43 | Nexiuz | It seems that in the start code of the animation is something like "if logged in then show texture" or something like that |
| 22:02.58 | Nexiuz | but not sure when that moment is or how i can forge it to display it |
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| 22:06.01 | kd3|netbook | oh damn you for linking tfln |
| 22:06.03 | kd3|netbook | sighs |
| 22:06.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:06.17 | Amarande | kd3: next time I'll link tvtropes to counter it. :) |
| 22:06.28 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 22:08.37 | Cairenn | rofl! naw, no geeks play WoW: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1015251787 (check the results) |
| 22:09.42 | durcyn | awesome. |
| 22:10.08 | kd3|netbook | if that's the poll I think it is, towel had damn well better be blowing everything else out of the water |
| 22:10.09 | durcyn | the poll percentage progress-bar backgrounds are completely wrong though |
| 22:10.11 | kd3|netbook | waits on the pageload |
| 22:10.42 | Maldivia | Cairenn: yeah, had a good laugh at that earlier as well :P |
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| 22:11.20 | Maldivia | .... perhaps it's time for a reread of it :P |
| 22:11.39 | Dagmar | jesus |
| 22:11.52 | Dagmar | Was someone high when they wrote the css that makes those bars |
| 22:11.57 | kd3|netbook | probably |
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| 22:12.07 | Maldivia | Dagmar: either that ,or very low... |
| 22:12.28 | Cairenn | and yes, I voted for packing a towel, too ;) |
| 22:12.40 | Cairenn | as did my daughter |
| 22:12.55 | kd3|netbook | woo-hoo, she's been trained well |
| 22:13.00 | Cairenn | of course! |
| 22:13.37 | Cairenn | She's my daughter, how could she be anything other than a geek? |
| 22:14.39 | durcyn | i still have the Don't Panic towel i won from answering a trivia question at the H2G2 movie premiere :) |
| 22:16.13 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH7WXlf9WLk great song |
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| 22:20.48 | nicoli_s | lol the landlords came to look at their fucked up house next door and all they did was put a box over the visible dildo |
| 22:21.07 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 22:21.07 | batrick | wow "Pack a towel" actually won in that poll Cairenn linked |
| 22:21.09 | Lunessa | lulz? |
| 22:21.09 | batrick | i'm shocked |
| 22:21.22 | kd3|netbook | nicoli_s, ? |
| 22:21.37 | Cairenn | batrick: well, winning, not won, but |
| 22:21.44 | batrick | =) |
| 22:21.50 | durcyn | it's kind of disappointing that it's only at 24% |
| 22:21.57 | batrick | 25% on my screen |
| 22:22.00 | Cairenn | I'll be VERY disappointed if it doesn't win |
| 22:22.09 | Arrowmaster | needs to put hhgttg next on his reading list |
| 22:22.10 | durcyn | and that 'derp, head to the dark portal' is a close second |
| 22:22.13 | batrick | did blizz say if they'd import all the old forum posts into the new wow forums? |
| 22:22.21 | durcyn | batrick: god, i hope not. |
| 22:22.24 | kd3|netbook | bat; no |
| 22:22.25 | batrick | i'll be a sad panda if they don't |
| 22:22.27 | kd3|netbook | they're going poof |
| 22:22.31 | batrick | ah :( |
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| 22:22.38 | kd3|netbook | much like the old old forums didn't get imported to the new old forums |
| 22:22.39 | batrick | all the good realm forum posts are going down the drain |
| 22:22.49 | batrick | blizz should make a torrent of all the forum posts |
| 22:22.58 | batrick | so they live on forever |
| 22:23.23 | durcyn | it would have to be named "this_is_terrible.torrent" |
| 22:23.35 | batrick | ya the OT section maybe |
| 22:23.42 | batrick | but i'd like to keep the realm forums |
| 22:23.53 | batrick | sometimes i search for an old post and can no longer find it |
| 22:23.57 | durcyn | i've never been impressed by the SNR ratio on anything with blizzard's name on it |
| 22:24.00 | batrick | partially because wow's forum search sucks balls |
| 22:24.03 | nicoli_s | kd3|netbook:people moved out of my next door house and they destroyed it before they left |
| 22:24.12 | kd3|netbook | yeowch |
| 22:24.15 | nicoli_s | and people came in and dumped all their shit on the lawn, including a very large dildo right on top |
| 22:24.30 | nicoli_s | which has caused all the old people walking by to say "oh my!" |
| 22:24.57 | Torhal | nicoli_s: o.O |
| 22:24.59 | nicoli_s | which while hilarious at first, is at day 3 just disgusting |
| 22:25.19 | Kraps | they said there wont be an OT forum, and people are not happy |
| 22:27.16 | cogwheel | ~ping |
| 22:27.16 | purl | ~pong |
| 22:29.27 | Fisker | i gotta pee cogwheel |
| 22:33.03 | Amarande | durcyn: wait, you're saying there's signal? |
| 22:33.06 | Amarande | isn't it all noise? :) |
| 22:34.02 | durcyn | Amarande: possibly 1% of the bug report forum |
| 22:35.54 | Torhal | Fisker: Secure your diaper. |
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| 22:38.48 | jnwhiteh | Where is Demandred? |
| 22:38.50 | jnwhiteh | seriously? |
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| 22:40.13 | Nobgul | Amarande: Yesterday i think you made a link for frame helper for addin inerface addons? |
| 22:40.41 | kd3|netbook | demandred? I don't think he showed up in the latest book. |
| 22:49.12 | Shirik | haha |
| 22:49.24 | Shirik | Reading a paper on software safety and came across him railing on some company |
| 22:49.31 | Shirik | Apparently they said âWe are preparing to submit our new [device with various real-time constraints] for certification. Our software has been developed using Visual Basic under Windows, do you have any advice on how to best prepare our certification package?â |
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| 22:50.20 | Dagmar | Shirik: So you sent them a copy of the Lord's Prayer, right? |
| 22:50.34 | Shirik | well this wasn't to me |
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| 22:55.00 | Arrowmaster | who? |
| 22:55.52 | Arrowmaster | omg this movie is never going to end! |
| 22:56.02 | Arrowmaster | i keep loosing track of time when i pause it |
| 22:56.54 | Arrowmaster | just hit the 3 hour mark of the movie |
| 22:57.05 | Jamash | The Abyss, Extended Edition? |
| 22:57.10 | Jamash | or Dune? |
| 22:57.26 | Arrowmaster | apocalypse now |
| 22:57.31 | Jamash | oh |
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| 22:58.01 | Arrowmaster | if i was watching the abyss or dune i wouldnt be pausing it to talk to you guys |
| 22:58.09 | Jamash | heh |
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| 22:58.17 | Arrowmaster | fuck you guys, you arent more important than the abyss or dune |
| 22:58.38 | zenzelezz | one does not watch Dune, one reads Dune |
| 22:59.00 | Arrowmaster | i still need to finish reading book 3 which i started on the plane to blizzcon |
| 22:59.18 | Arrowmaster | then i can go back to reading the ebooks on my pc |
| 22:59.20 | Jamash | one does not simply Netflix Instant Streaming into Dune |
| 23:00.00 | Arrowmaster | pff ive got those on dvd from before netflix existed |
| 23:00.07 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: At least until some idiot terrorist tries to turn one into a bomb |
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| 23:00.33 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: what? a book? |
| 23:01.07 | Dagmar | Laptops. |
| 23:01.22 | Dagmar | ...or books. |
| 23:01.28 | Arrowmaster | my laptop battery wouldnt have lasted on the planes i took so i never got it out |
| 23:01.57 | Lunessa | Grrr... "I'm not getting any e-mail, the Spam Filter must be blocking everything!" "Ma'am, I'm looking in your quarantine, and nothing has been quarantined for your address since the 4th." "Oh, I guess they didn't send it then." /headdesk |
| 23:02.11 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: you know, books: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5747 |
| 23:02.32 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Dune the movie? Dude... that shit BLOWS. Read the book. |
| 23:02.48 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: i did read the book, i have all 6 next to me |
| 23:03.03 | Cairenn | rubs Lunessa's back (re spam) |
| 23:03.05 | Arrowmaster | i was fucking carring them around in my backpack at blizzcon! |
| 23:03.14 | Arrowmaster | (not all 6) |
| 23:03.17 | Jamash | so you could hit people with them? |
| 23:03.32 | Nobgul | Cairenn: I am sooooo going to steal that link! |
| 23:03.38 | Xyphoid | dune the movie is awesome |
| 23:03.45 | Xyphoid | sure, it's flawed, but it's so trippy |
| 23:03.49 | Cairenn | Nobgul: omg,you've never seen that before? |
| 23:03.52 | Nobgul | Xyphoid: I agree |
| 23:04.05 | Arrowmaster | the two dune movies are why i wanted to read the books |
| 23:04.10 | Jamash | I had this misfortune of a cow-orker loaning me The Butlerian Jihad |
| 23:04.15 | Nobgul | Cairenn: lol no. I read the first 15 lines with excitment until i realized what it was >< |
| 23:04.19 | Xyphoid | did you cut them |
| 23:04.20 | Jamash | s/this/the/ |
| 23:04.26 | Jamash | I should have |
| 23:04.57 | Nobgul | Oh wow this sounds cool. Oh umm uh darn |
| 23:04.57 | Nobgul | he |
| 23:04.57 | Jamash | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/10/15/ |
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| 23:05.16 | nightcracker | hey all |
| 23:05.21 | Nobgul | Sup nightcracker |
| 23:05.22 | Cairenn | hi nc |
| 23:05.28 | nightcracker | nothin really |
| 23:05.29 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: lol |
| 23:05.29 | nightcracker | i thought |
| 23:05.34 | nightcracker | lets drop by once |
| 23:05.43 | Nobgul | Well nice to see you here =) |
| 23:05.47 | nightcracker | =) |
| 23:06.00 | nightcracker | how are my/your addons coming along? |
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| 23:06.13 | |Tom | no |
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| 23:06.19 | Stalls | hai |
| 23:06.37 | Nobgul | They are fine. Pusshing a update to the namepltes in a few days. got the threat stuff working. |
| 23:06.51 | Nobgul | The bag mod. Is dead =P |
| 23:07.00 | nightcracker | that.... thing |
| 23:07.04 | nightcracker | .... |
| 23:07.11 | nightcracker | KILL IT WITH FIRE |
| 23:07.26 | Jamash | BY RM -RF BE PURGED |
| 23:07.27 | Stalls | I'm only here because CRACKER said if we didn't join, there would be life ending consiquences :( |
| 23:07.31 | Nobgul | The only problem I have is that when someone leaves a file comment on the ones that you "own" and i am part of the team i don't get a e-mail. |
| 23:07.47 | Nobgul | So i just have to check them regulary |
| 23:08.33 | nightcracker | *looks at dolby* |
| 23:08.36 | TC-Work | Stalls: i dont know who cracker is, but he is right |
| 23:08.39 | Nobgul | Hehe |
| 23:08.57 | Stalls | Craker = nightcracker :p |
| 23:08.59 | nightcracker | @TC-Work you don't know who I am? |
| 23:09.03 | Stalls | lol |
| 23:09.08 | cogwheel | scratches his head |
| 23:09.09 | Stalls | He hates being called Cracker :) |
| 23:09.11 | Stalls | I was making a point |
| 23:09.13 | Stalls | lol |
| 23:09.23 | Kraps | omg noobs gtfo |
| 23:09.34 | TC-Work | nope, i dont know any crackers |
| 23:10.34 | nightcracker | @nobgul I was thinking about this for a new bag mod http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188986&postcount=24 |
| 23:11.06 | cogwheel | chuckles |
| 23:11.23 | Nobgul | Nice and simple. |
| 23:11.33 | Nobgul | Built on that mcrun isnt it =P |
| 23:11.46 | TC-Work | isnt that tuller's 3rd bag mod or something |
| 23:11.55 | cogwheel | it's all my fault |
| 23:12.00 | nightcracker | well |
| 23:12.02 | Nobgul | I know cogwheel |
| 23:12.06 | nightcracker | i mean once i have deciphered the code x |
| 23:12.12 | nightcracker | xD* |
| 23:12.30 | Nobgul | dolby: You around? |
| 23:12.36 | Shirik | Pop quiz |
| 23:12.39 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: do we count Bagnon and vBagnon as 1 or 2 bag mods? |
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| 23:12.49 | Shirik | What does Cinco de Mayo celebrate? |
| 23:12.53 | Nobgul | 2 i would think |
| 23:13.00 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: may 5th |
| 23:13.04 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:13.17 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: i had typed out "the fifth of may" but decided against it |
| 23:14.10 | Kraps | Shirik: may 5th |
| 23:14.13 | Shirik | You all suck |
| 23:14.35 | Fisker | omg gross |
| 23:14.43 | nightcracker | we have Bagnon, vBagnon, combuctor, mcBag? |
| 23:14.48 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cinco+de+mayo |
| 23:14.58 | Nobgul | lol |
| 23:15.14 | Arrowmaster | ~wiki cinco de mayo |
| 23:15.17 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 23:15.18 | Shirik | it was a pop quiz |
| 23:15.20 | Shirik | you all are cheating |
| 23:15.22 | Nobgul | I get no work done when I hang out in Irc |
| 23:15.23 | Fisker | i farted and it hurt :( |
| 23:15.27 | Fisker | and it smells badly |
| 23:15.40 | Nobgul | Fisker: you should get that looked at. |
| 23:15.57 | Fisker | i should |
| 23:16.06 | Fisker | smells a bit like popcorn actually |
| 23:16.07 | Lunessa | Station. |
| 23:16.11 | Arrowmaster | Cinco de Mayo (Spanish for "fifth of May") is a holiday held on May 5 that commemorates the Mexican army's unlikely victory over French forces at the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862, under the leadership of General Ignacio Zaragoza SeguÃn. [2][3] It is celebrated primarily in the state of Puebla and in the United States.[4][5][6][7] While Cinco de Mayo sees limited significance and celebration nationwid |
| 23:16.17 | Arrowmaster | e in Mexico, the date is observed nationwide in the United States and other locations around the world as a celebration of Mexican heritage and pride.[8] |
| 23:16.44 | Arrowmaster | so its a celebration of the french getting their asses kicked, like many other holidays |
| 23:16.57 | Fisker | yeah Arrowmaster |
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| 23:17.01 | Fisker | i was like unlikely? |
| 23:17.10 | nightcracker | oh god wowinterface partypoker ad crashing my eee pc |
| 23:17.19 | Fisker | well maybe at 1862 it might've been a bit unlikely |
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| 23:17.28 | Fisker | partypoker ads are AWESOME |
| 23:17.30 | Cairenn | hates that damn thing >< |
| 23:17.41 | Fisker | i barely use wowhead anymore because of it |
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| 23:19.16 | Nobgul | They really need to fix that damn gong when you press play. |
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| 23:21.54 | Jamash | nightcracker: flashblock |
| 23:22.01 | Mirrormn | I've actually gotten into the habit of muting my computer whenever I open WoW |
| 23:22.17 | Mirrormn | so I don't have to hear **BWOOOOOOONG!!** |
| 23:22.51 | Jamash | if you have vista or windows 7 you could adjust the volume for the launcher |
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| 23:23.57 | Nobgul | Jamash: Naw im running linux, I prob could adjust it there as well but eh. |
| 23:24.37 | Mirrormn | well I can mute my computer with a single keyboard button and then unmute it similarly |
| 23:24.54 | Mirrormn | any other situation would probably be necessarily more difficult |
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| 23:45.07 | nightcracker | back |
| 23:48.17 | Kraps | do adblockers hurt site revenue? |
| 23:48.29 | A-KO | likely, but probably not by much :P |
| 23:48.56 | durcyn | anyone blocking ads wasn't going to click through anyway, and display rates are abysmally low |
| 23:49.25 | TMc51 | For every 1 person using an ad blocker, you have about a dozen using IE. Still, bad practice to block ads unless on certain sites where they get annoying. |
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| 23:49.51 | nightcracker | well, not to be offensive, but on wowi they get annoying for me |
| 23:49.58 | nightcracker | they overlap the forum |
| 23:50.08 | nightcracker | if big screenshots are posted |
| 23:54.12 | A-KO | http://www.break.com/index/not-scared-of-heights-1950216 < fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that |
| 23:56.07 | Kraps | you saw http://www.break.com/index/climbing-a-1786-tall-tower |
| 23:56.24 | TMc51 | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/11/09/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh.jpg |
| 23:56.39 | A-KO | yeah Kraps |
| 23:56.41 | TMc51 | from the top of the worlds talest building looking down |
| 23:56.45 | A-KO | you see the guys who did pull ups off the crane? |
| 23:57.19 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm7TLwFIh2c |
| 23:58.13 | TMc51 | I'm surprised he didn't surrender to gravity. |
