| 00:02.29 | syrae | nobgul: right |
| 00:02.52 | nobgul | huh? |
| 00:02.56 | nobgul | sorry |
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| 00:03.33 | nobgul | syrae: I honestly do not know more about the specifics of the upcomming features more then anyone else. I can only speak from my experience. |
| 00:03.58 | syrae | right |
| 00:04.32 | nobgul | I would reckon though that blizzard would "allow" some race combo's and deny others based on the expansion. But if i were blizzard i would make u buy the xpac =P |
| 00:04.36 | syrae | the only thing that's confusing me is that there's a lot more overlap for Cata for new stuff that will be affecting non-expansion players than in any other previous release |
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| 00:05.10 | syrae | and additionally, this is the first time they will be releasing a mini-patch right before the release date to enable some features and whatnot |
| 00:05.23 | syrae | with the main patch doing the big stuff (ie: the Sundering itself) |
| 00:05.32 | Kraftman | does SetTexture still return false if it isnt succesful? |
| 00:05.52 | nobgul | syrae: I think the biggest adjustment has been done talents and glyph's etc. Ui updates. Everything else from a new user standpoint is nill. But for preexisting players they had to prerelease some stuff. |
| 00:05.57 | syrae | we've already gotten the patch full of mechanics changes and a lot of the UI changes, but it's a small drop in the bucket in terms of overall content |
| 00:06.03 | industrial | Line 123 doesn't seem to work for me, I get no slash commands and no addon options; https://gist.github.com/4d368f4d6fa19032c943 |
| 00:06.56 | nobgul | Kraftman: i think it silently fials |
| 00:07.00 | nobgul | err fails. |
| 00:08.06 | nobgul | 0_o |
| 00:08.27 | nobgul | Angayelle: i don't see anything but i fail at unitframes. gave up on mine=P |
| 00:08.40 | industrial | Don't see what I did wrong as the method is running and I am not getting errors |
| 00:08.49 | Hirsute | syrae: They have been quite specific, actually, that Guild leveling and achievements were cata only |
| 00:08.53 | industrial | I still am not getting slash commands that I registered with AceOptions |
| 00:09.07 | nobgul | industrial did you define the db in the toc? |
| 00:09.15 | Angayelle | thnks for your time nobgul anyway |
| 00:09.24 | nobgul | i think thats where you define the db anyway |
| 00:09.49 | Hirsute | Or, rather, post-cata only |
| 00:09.54 | nobgul | Angayelle: Np the only thing i did see was your frames. your creating them 2 times instead of updating them |
| 00:09.58 | syrae | Hirsute: ok. |
| 00:10.20 | syrae | Because they obviously can't say that players without cata won't have a fully functioning guild. That'd be dumb |
| 00:10.47 | industrial | nobgul: yes and other settings are loading from it, line 32 |
| 00:10.49 | Hirsute | Amarande: If memory serves, it would either not show up as an option at all, or be greyed out. That said, I don't know that they actually will require the xpac, in the past I believe they just weren't introduced until the xpac dropped, but then were available to everyone. |
| 00:11.19 | industrial | nobgul: now I want those settings in a config :p |
| 00:12.03 | nobgul | industrial: Lol i didint see it before but now i see it =P |
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| 00:12.31 | nobgul | i honestly tried to use ace for gui and stuff as i herd it was "easier" but never got very far with the ace lib's |
| 00:13.12 | industrial | No idea how it's done without as I usually just use a few vars for config .. |
| 00:13.46 | nobgul | Alot more lines of code lol |
| 00:14.39 | industrial | I prefer the tutorial kind of docs to a long-list-of-api-methods kind, got a place to start sides wowprogramming.com? |
| 00:15.07 | mascondante | Quick question: In GameTooltip:SetOwner(self, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMRIGHT") I'm assuming 'self' is the problem? |
| 00:15.12 | industrial | not that I dont appreciate the api, I usually go look at improving after I've got something working from the tutorial in the direction I want |
| 00:15.24 | nobgul | wowwiki |
| 00:16.03 | mascondante | I looked. it doesn't appear to be updated to 4.0.1 |
| 00:16.07 | Arrowmaster | wowwiki is dead |
| 00:16.13 | nobgul | no its not lol |
| 00:16.17 | nobgul | mas |
| 00:16.18 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 00:16.20 | nobgul | A pointer to the frame is required, not the frame name itself (use getglobal() to get the pointer from the frame name). |
| 00:16.37 | Arrowmaster | all the admins and most the editors left |
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| 00:17.01 | industrial | hmm |
| 00:17.04 | Arrowmaster | and getglobal() is deprecated |
| 00:17.10 | nobgul | Why would they do such a silly thing lol |
| 00:17.20 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 00:17.21 | industrial | I should convert my chiptune library into MP3 so I can carry it around |
| 00:17.26 | nobgul | leave wowiki to die lol |
| 00:17.31 | Arrowmaster | because of wikia |
| 00:17.40 | Arrowmaster | they forked the site to wowpedia.org |
| 00:17.40 | nobgul | ? |
| 00:17.53 | nobgul | 0_o |
| 00:18.05 | syrae | nobgul: you missed that whole drama thing, I guess. |
| 00:18.05 | industrial | ah! see, thought I saw that a while back didnt know what kinda project it was |
| 00:18.10 | nobgul | Yea i did lol |
| 00:18.19 | nobgul | Do i really wanna know? |
| 00:18.28 | Arrowmaster | wikia sucks, end of story |
| 00:18.28 | nobgul | Or is it like 10 year old kid drama? |
| 00:18.31 | industrial | probably something with companies and money |
| 00:18.31 | nobgul | Ok |
| 00:18.35 | nobgul | fair enough |
| 00:18.36 | industrial | which is always a boring story |
| 00:19.04 | nobgul | I mean if its good drama i am down for it. But 10 year old kid drama i can just alt tab over to my guild for that =P |
| 00:19.25 | Arrowmaster | its what indy said, companies and money drama |
| 00:19.32 | Kraftman | nobgul: what do you mean by silently fails? |
| 00:19.34 | mascondante | So is there a one liner that I can add/remove/modify? I'm still not too bright on Lua/WoW API |
| 00:19.52 | industrial | mascondante: eh? what do you want to do? |
| 00:20.15 | mascondante | Fix GameTooltip:SetOwner(self, "ANCHOR_BOTTOMRIGHT") where it doesn't say usage error |
| 00:20.21 | Kraftman | im currently trying: "if texture:SetTexure("location") then" but it seems to always return true |
| 00:20.45 | nobgul | Kraftman It was ment for a whisper not you. I haven't gotten the hang of mirc yet. I miss my Ircii |
| 00:20.49 | industrial | mascondante: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip/SetOwner |
| 00:21.10 | industrial | there is no ANCHOR_BOTTOMRIGHT |
| 00:21.18 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: indeed. that makes three companies lately that are particularly on my suck list. |
| 00:21.22 | industrial | or, at least, not on that page. |
| 00:21.25 | Amarande | Wikia, Electronic Arts, and AT&T. |
| 00:21.34 | Dagmar | What? No Ubisoft? |
| 00:21.44 | industrial | I Don't consume Ubisoft |
| 00:21.47 | industrial | :p |
| 00:21.55 | mascondante | industrial: ty |
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| 00:22.08 | nobgul | Kraftman, aren't you missing a arg there? isn't settexture 2 args? |
| 00:22.56 | nobgul | or am i buggin<---- may be lack of sleep is getting to me. |
| 00:23.08 | Kraftman | the colours are optional i think |
| 00:23.17 | nobgul | but shouldnt it be |
| 00:23.26 | nobgul | "file.ext",true) |
| 00:23.33 | nobgul | or false? |
| 00:23.37 | Kraftman | what is the true for? |
| 00:23.56 | Kraftman | im reading it from http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexture |
| 00:24.00 | nobgul | I thought it was to show the image? I think thats the way I use it in my addon. |
| 00:24.15 | Kraftman | i just want to check if a texture exists |
| 00:24.53 | nobgul | shouldnt you be using gettexture then? |
| 00:25.15 | Kraftman | well i havnt set a texture to get |
| 00:25.21 | syrae | ... |
| 00:25.31 | syrae | I'm confused, and I don't think I'm the only one |
| 00:25.41 | nobgul | Yea I think i am too tired. I am getting confused to easliy i need a nap before work. |
| 00:25.51 | Kraftman | I want to find out if the texture file exists |
| 00:25.59 | syrae | nobgul: I'm at work and I need a nap now :P |
| 00:26.12 | Kraftman | i used to just set the texture and then record if the setting failed or succeeded |
| 00:26.18 | Kraftman | but it no longer works |
| 00:26.50 | nobgul | Oh. I guess you could set it then use the gettexture. if it returns the path you know your good if not =X |
| 00:27.02 | nobgul | Bit hackish. |
| 00:27.14 | Amarande | Dagmar: It's been a while off the top of my head since I've played something from Ubisoft |
| 00:27.45 | Kraftman | thanks, ill give that a go :) |
| 00:27.45 | syrae | nobgul: aren't all addons just a bit hackish (if not more)? |
| 00:28.04 | nobgul | Kraftman But i do see where you used to be able to use the return of settexture to see if it exists |
| 00:28.05 | Amarande | Wikia's on the bad list for ... well, we all know. AT&T's on the bad list just because they suck. Crappy cell phone service, crappy backbones (which are on the route between here and Battle.net *sigh*), crappy landline phone service if I remember, and generally just sucking apart from having developed the lovely tool called Graphviz |
| 00:28.09 | Amarande | and EA, well, I'm sure we all know EA. |
| 00:28.21 | nobgul | syrae: Some more then others lol. Mine tend to be very interesting =P |
| 00:29.03 | syrae | I wznt to see a search for "I don't know why this works" on all the addons on Curse/WoWI |
| 00:29.34 | Kraftman | nobgul: that works fine, thanks! |
| 00:30.56 | syrae | http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=%22don%27t+know+why+this+works%22&sbtn=Search |
| 00:30.58 | syrae | just for fun |
| 00:31.14 | nobgul | lol |
| 00:31.18 | nobgul | Kraftman: Cheers |
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| 00:36.38 | Angayelle | i believe it's more accurate to use OnUpdate to get UnitHealth than to watch for UNIT_Health events to fire but more cpu/mem intensive ? |
| 00:37.03 | Kraps | "A return mailer mailer will be tucked neatly into one of your books." how long has that typo been there? |
| 00:38.47 | Kraps | and why do they recommend books based on what i search instead of what i order? |
| 00:50.40 | Torhal | nicoli_s: It hasn't since Thursday, though I'll be doing a bit before bed tonight. |
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| 00:58.23 | DarthAndroid_ | Is there any information on the UNIT_HEALTH_PREDICTION event? I've tried registering it to a frame with print() in the onevent handler, but I"m not getting anything, even in raids. |
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| 01:08.07 | DWSR | http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&sa=N&q=%22don't+know+why+this+works%22++lang:lua&ct=rr&cs_r=lang:lua <-- |
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| 01:15.56 | Hirsute | syrae: Aye, they just aren't planning to activate the guild stuff until Cataclysm hits. |
| 01:16.03 | syrae | kk |
| 01:17.27 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: what the fuck |
| 01:19.04 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: thats all garrysmod stuff isnt it |
| 01:19.31 | DWSR | dunno |
| 01:31.25 | Lulia | If I place a function inside my AddOn's global variable, it shouldn't matter where it is in the files so long as it isn't called until after ADDON_LOADED (with addon == myaddon) correct? |
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| 01:38.02 | alestane | What do you mean by "your add-on's global variable"? |
| 01:38.08 | Hirsute | vive le wowpedia. |
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| 01:40.09 | Hirsute | Odd, my communication with freenode has been really, really bursty lately. ( |
| 01:40.33 | Xyphoid | calvino.freenode really sucks |
| 01:40.39 | Xyphoid | i had the exact same problem |
| 01:40.57 | Hirsute | (I get large chunks of lines all at once) |
| 01:42.41 | Kraftman | have dropdowns changed? |
| 01:42.54 | Kraftman | within the last year >< |
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| 01:45.02 | DarthAndroid_ | Is there any information on the UNIT_HEALTH_PREDICTION event? I've tried registering it to a frame with print() in the onevent handler, but I"m not getting anything, even in raids. |
| 01:51.00 | Mirrormn_ | Lulia: as long as your function is defined before it is called, it will work |
| 01:51.37 | Lulia | Yeah, but it's not. I'm scanning it over for typos |
| 01:51.40 | Lulia | But I see none |
| 01:51.59 | Lulia | I don't call anything until addon_loaded where addon == myaddon |
| 01:52.08 | Lulia | And the functions are in the global variable |
| 01:52.32 | Mirrormn | well, ADDON_LOADED is only called after all of the code in your addon files is executed |
| 01:52.54 | alestane | The way you speak about global variables suggests some possibility of confusion in your mind. What do you mean by "in the global variable"? |
| 01:53.35 | Mirrormn | I assume he means he has a single global variable which is used to hold the definition of all the function related to his addon, which is common practice |
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| 01:55.08 | Lulia | Right |
| 01:55.20 | Lulia | I only use one "global", so sorry for the plural |
| 01:56.24 | Lulia | Mirrormn: Everything in the code except the addon's global table and the frame to fire addon_loaded is in a function and nothing is called until the addon_loaded is equal to my addon and yet one of the functions defined in a later file is throwing a nil error |
| 01:56.42 | Lulia | Now clearly I'm just lacking some understanding of how it works. |
| 01:56.51 | Lulia | So I'm trying to figure out where my understanding is failing. |
| 01:57.23 | Mirrormn | are you sure that later file is actually being loaded correctly? |
| 01:57.35 | DarthAndroid_ | is this global a variable that you're saving? |
| 01:57.44 | DarthAndroid_ | (via SavedVariables) |
| 01:58.21 | Lulia | It's a global table which is defined in the very first line of the first file loaded |
| 01:58.31 | Lulia | omg |
| 01:58.32 | Lulia | ... |
| 01:58.34 | Lulia | I forgot an s |
| 01:58.41 | DarthAndroid_ | >.< |
| 01:58.44 | Lulia | a freaking s in the name of the file in the .toc file |
| 01:58.52 | DarthAndroid_ | I do that more often than I'd like to admit >.> |
| 01:58.58 | Lulia | I've wasted an hour |
| 01:59.02 | Lulia | fretting over a freaking 's' |
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| 01:59.12 | Lulia | fml |
| 02:00.14 | alestane | I've got a better one for you...I spent a half an hour tracking down an extra space once. |
| 02:00.41 | DarthAndroid_ | be thankful it was a typo |
| 02:00.42 | Lulia | but that's hard to see |
| 02:00.45 | Lulia | and only half an hour |
| 02:00.47 | Xyphoid | i spent an hour yesterday in the debugger to discover i'd forgotten to enable the product i was looking at |
| 02:01.07 | DarthAndroid_ | typos are easy to fix, and easy enough to track down |
| 02:01.08 | Xyphoid | this is why crunch time is bad |
| 02:01.25 | DarthAndroid_ | execution taint, on the other hand... |
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| 02:04.51 | Amarande | hmm, is this yet another 4.0.1 bug? |
| 02:05.06 | DarthAndroid_ | is what? |
| 02:05.11 | Hirsute | alestane: I can't imagine how frustrating that might of been. |
| 02:05.19 | Amarande | I'm getting issues fighting the fenclaw thrashers underwater in zangar where the mobs will spontaneously evade for a couple seconds, sometimes enough to regain a big chunk of health, then start taking damage again |
| 02:05.21 | Amarande | for no apparent reason |
| 02:06.00 | Hirsute | ... |
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| 02:06.10 | Amarande | is there some sort of intermittent evade bug with underwater mobs now? |
| 02:06.24 | Hirsute | someone just did "Stran admires the bulge in Dangermage's pants while no one is looking." |
| 02:06.43 | Hirsute | I'm not even in humpshire. |
| 02:07.03 | Amarande | Hirsute: one, are you playing on Moon Guard :P |
| 02:07.08 | Amarande | two, are you in Netherstorm or SMV by any chance? |
| 02:07.37 | DarthAndroid_ | ... Amarande, do I want to ask why you know all that? :P |
| 02:07.51 | Hirsute | Amarande: No, Silver Hand, and the Stormwind AH. |
| 02:08.16 | Amarande | Darth: all it takes is to read the WoW forums for a short time to |
| 02:08.22 | Amarande | 1) establish that Moon Guard is rife with stuff like that |
| 02:08.39 | DarthAndroid_ | Suuuuuuure :P |
| 02:08.44 | Amarande | and 2) if you read them around the time WotLK was about to come out, to hear speculation that Netherstorm and SMV were going to become abandoned and be "places for people on Moon Guard to cyber" |
| 02:09.20 | Nobgul-AFK | RP Server x-O? |
| 02:09.35 | DarthAndroid_ | ERP server, i think you mean |
| 02:09.37 | DarthAndroid_ | :P |
| 02:09.40 | Nobgul-AFK | erp? |
| 02:09.54 | DarthAndroid_ | a very, very special kind of RP :P |
| 02:10.13 | Nobgul-AFK | Don't mind me i only Play on 2 realms lol |
| 02:10.18 | Dajova | eroRP! |
| 02:10.22 | Hirsute | Egregiously-stupid RP, of course. |
| 02:10.24 | Nobgul-AFK | Hrmm I am intrigued now lol |
| 02:10.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Ha. This is kind of awesome. |
| 02:10.39 | Hirsute | Nobgul-AFK: Erotic RP |
| 02:10.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Went to a LAN last weekend, hosted by a co-worker |
| 02:10.43 | DarthAndroid_ | scoots away from Dajova |
| 02:10.44 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 02:10.58 | Nobgul | Hirsute: Speachless. |
| 02:10.59 | Dajova | slaps DarthAndriod_ with a large woman. |
| 02:10.59 | Nobgul | lol |
| 02:11.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ~20 people showed up, including an 18 year old neighbor who was content to sit at home jobeless playing WoW that his mother paid for |
| 02:11.17 | DarthAndroid_ | is not particularly into tauren, tyvm. |
| 02:11.18 | Nobgul | lol |
| 02:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | When he saw that everyone had both jobs and pimped out rigs |
| 02:11.20 | Hirsute | Don't look at me that way. I'm just scanning the Auction House. |
| 02:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | He decided to go out and get a job the follow day |
| 02:11.37 | ScytheBlade1 | *following |
| 02:11.42 | Dajova | Darth: Who said anything about taurens, you furry? :P |
| 02:11.55 | Nobgul | 0_o. Oh Noes! |
| 02:11.57 | DarthAndroid_ | largest race in teh game, no? |
| 02:12.11 | Nobgul | Depends on how u mean largest =X |
| 02:12.15 | Dajova | who said anything about in game? xD |
| 02:12.19 | Nobgul | lol |
| 02:12.40 | Nobgul | Scans the room to make sure that Cairenn and Seerah are not around. |
| 02:12.40 | DarthAndroid_ | Nobgul: No. Bad images. |
| 02:12.52 | Dajova | just said "large woman"... not particular taurens :P |
| 02:13.32 | Nobgul | Hides. |
| 02:13.35 | DarthAndroid_ | Dajova: so I tried to make a comment using the best example the game could provide? |
| 02:14.00 | DarthAndroid_ | after running at max camera distance for so long, it's hard to call any other race "large" or even "visible" |
| 02:14.17 | Dajova | Darth: Well, what if i mean that the large woman was a BMW? |
| 02:14.24 | Nobgul | Lol. |
| 02:14.52 | Nobgul | When my wifes Blood Elf Priest sits to drink it looks like 1/2 a gnome =P |
| 02:14.56 | DarthAndroid_ | Dajova: then get the f--- out of the channel! If I wanted to talk about cars and sports, I've have been a damn jock! :P |
| 02:15.05 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 02:15.09 | DarthAndroid_ | *I'd |
| 02:15.20 | Dajova | you dont even know what a BMW is... xD |
| 02:15.37 | DarthAndroid_ | Again, I was assuming you meant the car maker :P |
| 02:15.47 | Nobgul | He sure was not lol |
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| 02:16.01 | Dajova | tip |
| 02:16.07 | Dajova | Jeff Dunham |
| 02:16.09 | Dajova | :P |
| 02:16.13 | Lulia | Hmm, is there a way to get the current width of the panel frame? |
| 02:16.22 | DarthAndroid_ | GetWidth() ? |
| 02:16.23 | Lulia | To account for varying user resolutions? |
| 02:16.25 | Lulia | Well |
| 02:16.26 | Nobgul | Achmed hehe |
| 02:16.34 | Lulia | AddOn.panel:GetWidth() returns 0 |
| 02:16.34 | DarthAndroid_ | oh |
| 02:16.45 | DarthAndroid_ | that's because you haven't set the width then |
| 02:16.54 | Lulia | Well |
| 02:17.01 | Lulia | It's a frame which is already set, I thought |
| 02:17.06 | Dajova | oh well, leaving the large woman now, i need ya help :P |
| 02:17.59 | DarthAndroid_ | I'm not sure I like your tone :3 |
| 02:18.33 | Dajova | when dealing with ouf raidframes, is there a way to color the background in any other way than black? |
| 02:18.55 | DarthAndroid_ | uh |
| 02:18.57 | Dajova | for example, class color |
| 02:19.05 | DarthAndroid_ | ouf lets you do whatever you want |
| 02:19.12 | Dajova | well |
| 02:19.20 | Dajova | apperently not, cause it wont let me xD |
| 02:20.08 | DarthAndroid_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/162360/WoWScrnShot_110810_140718.jpg ? |
| 02:20.13 | Lulia | Wow, I totally just said everything in the wrong window |
| 02:20.15 | DarthAndroid_ | works just fine for me |
| 02:20.26 | Dajova | basically, i have a panel that skins each frame so it matches the ui... however, it wont let me change the color of it, only the healthbar |
| 02:20.28 | Lulia | Apparently the name of the frame I was looking for is InterfaceOptionsFramePanelContainer |
| 02:20.33 | Lulia | which, btw, I love Framestack |
| 02:20.45 | DarthAndroid_ | <3 framestack <3 |
| 02:22.24 | Dajova | anyway, this is what i have atm in the raid code: http://www.pastey.net/142627 |
| 02:22.50 | Dajova | where hBorder represents the background panel |
| 02:23.48 | DarthAndroid_ | ok... |
| 02:24.08 | DarthAndroid_ | the bg should be 30% of the bar color |
| 02:24.09 | Dajova | >_> |
| 02:24.12 | DarthAndroid_ | blended with black |
| 02:24.19 | DarthAndroid_ | if class coloring is enabled |
| 02:24.30 | DarthAndroid_ | actually |
| 02:24.39 | DarthAndroid_ | wtf is hborder and hbg? |
| 02:24.42 | DarthAndroid_ | where are the defined? |
| 02:25.17 | Dajova | i just said that hBorder is the panel background and hBg is the holder of it all... i think :P |
| 02:25.46 | DarthAndroid_ | as far as that snippet is concerned, they don't exist :P |
| 02:26.02 | Nobgul | Can you no longer mail boa between factions on the same server ? |
| 02:26.52 | Dajova | http://www.pastey.net/142628 <--- fine, where the defined codes |
| 02:27.20 | Nobgul | No codes fix Nobgul's problem first =p then code |
| 02:27.35 | Dajova | i was first! |
| 02:27.48 | Nobgul | nope i asked first +P |
| 02:27.56 | Dajova | -.- |
| 02:28.30 | Nobgul | Oh mabey cause i tried to mail gold with it. |
| 02:28.51 | Dajova | bonks Nobgul. |
| 02:28.58 | Hirsute | "Wow, Thor'dal, Star's Fury doesn't need ammo, now that's a feature!" You'd think this would have been a fail-troll, but nope, lots and lots of people responded. |
| 02:29.36 | Nobgul | Lol |
| 02:29.43 | Dajova | trolls feeding on ppl with nothing else better to do |
| 02:30.10 | Nobgul | Well. On the Eu realm i am on the big troll is . Heals can't Crit. |
| 02:30.10 | DarthAndroid_ | Dajova: health.border isn't managed anywhere by the oUF code |
| 02:30.15 | Nobgul | they rage about that lol |
| 02:30.33 | DarthAndroid_ | if health.bg is defined, then it'll be set to health:GetColor() * health.bg.multiplier |
| 02:30.42 | DarthAndroid_ | that's it |
| 02:30.58 | DarthAndroid_ | you don't get to define different coloring options for the bg, or a border |
| 02:31.04 | DarthAndroid_ | you have to do all that yourself |
| 02:32.25 | Dajova | so... i need to remove the multiplier? :o |
| 02:32.38 | Dajova | (its 3 am) |
| 02:33.05 | DarthAndroid_ | if you don't want oUF to change the color, then yes |
| 02:33.22 | Dajova | hmm, ill test |
| 02:33.49 | DarthAndroid_ | better yet, don't use health.bg |
| 02:33.49 | DarthAndroid_ | use something different |
| 02:33.50 | DarthAndroid_ | like health.background |
| 02:34.17 | Dajova | sorry to ask, but is there really a difference? xD |
| 02:34.49 | DarthAndroid_ | ouf manages health.bg |
| 02:34.54 | DarthAndroid_ | it doesn't manage health.background |
| 02:37.16 | Nobgul | Now if only oUF could manage me being bored, we would be set. |
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| 02:38.53 | Amarande | Nobgul: stop disc healing? :) |
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| 02:40.05 | Jamash | sup |
| 02:40.14 | Nobgul | Naw my priest is on a unused account. My mains i play with now are my boomkin my shaman and my lock. |
| 02:40.19 | Nobgul | Sup Jamash |
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| 02:44.33 | DarthAndroid_ | <3 Fizzlekin |
| 02:48.56 | Kraftman | I cant get my dropdown to update itself to the selected value |
| 02:49.22 | Cairenn | btw, Nobgul - just because we don't necessarily respond ... doesn't mean we aren't watching |
| 02:49.30 | Kraftman | have blizzard changed dropdowns recently? |
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| 02:51.00 | Napoleone | who used vim? |
| 02:51.52 | Amarande | oh dear. |
| 02:51.57 | Amarande | "zzOLD Fire Totem II" |
| 02:52.03 | Amarande | On live. |
| 02:57.17 | Dajova | hmm, still not working :( |
| 03:00.16 | Lulia | Just submitted a new AddOn to WoWInterface! Needs approval though >.> |
| 03:00.21 | Lulia | <.< |
| 03:00.55 | Cairenn | you're slow, Lulia |
| 03:01.05 | Lulia | Slow? |
| 03:01.08 | Cairenn | it's already been approved |
| 03:01.10 | Lulia | oh |
| 03:01.11 | Lulia | >.> |
| 03:01.12 | tem | bets it's al-- |
| 03:01.15 | tem | is slow too |
| 03:01.17 | Cairenn | hehehee |
| 03:01.21 | Lulia | hugs Cairenn. |
| 03:01.36 | Kraps | is this real life http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/8782dd81-a3a7-44bc-812d-0acae1360f001.jpg |
| 03:02.07 | Cairenn | sure, why not? it's chipboard, lots for the cat to get its claws into |
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| 03:04.30 | Amarande | ok, I definitely don't remember this many evades underwater in 3.x |
| 03:04.34 | Amarande | this is definitely glitchiness in 4.0 |
| 03:04.57 | Napoleone | lol |
| 03:05.12 | Hirsute | Wouldn't surprise me. There's lots of glitchiness in 4.0 |
| 03:05.57 | Napoleone | kraps either supreme photoshopping |
| 03:06.01 | Napoleone | but looks real enough |
| 03:07.40 | Kraps | this looks legit |
| 03:07.42 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJB2Woe5zeQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:08.42 | Napoleone | LOL reptilians |
| 03:09.22 | Napoleone | guess that she was full of crap |
| 03:09.28 | Jamash | maybe not |
| 03:09.43 | Napoleone | she said 8th nov |
| 03:10.16 | Napoleone | lol |
| 03:10.21 | Jamash | maybe this is just a simulation that the reptiloid black government neo-moon-nazi obamafascist cryptovegan overlords have placed us in |
| 03:10.26 | Napoleone | wtf is she taking |
| 03:10.37 | Kraps | i agree with Jamash |
| 03:10.38 | Napoleone | pope got red shoes with a cross upside down? |
| 03:10.58 | Kraftman | http://i.imgur.com/5WXdl.jpg |
| 03:11.20 | Jamash | watch this documentary for evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeAfoiN5SDw |
| 03:11.26 | Cairenn | Kraps: lol |
| 03:11.28 | Napoleone | she just busted SG1 ;P |
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| 03:13.06 | Kraps | more proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbl-vMN2gzo |
| 03:13.34 | Napoleone | lol she talks about emp pulse all the way to the core.. hmm it distrups electricity. .but if it fucks up the magnetism... we will loose our defence from the sun |
| 03:13.41 | Napoleone | proof? |
| 03:15.07 | Napoleone | lol at the last one haha |
| 03:17.24 | Kraftman | is it DropDown_ItemClick(self) or DropDown_OnClick(self)? |
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| 03:18.06 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: wtf is this crap |
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| 03:26.06 | Napoleone | the doom of the world on feb 28th lol |
| 03:26.45 | Hirsute | So... how do these new raid markers work? |
| 03:26.53 | Hirsute | Are they only available in the Cata beta? |
| 03:26.59 | Napoleone | hmm smoke markers? |
| 03:27.36 | Hirsute | Napoleone: Yes |
| 03:28.39 | Arrowmaster | i just watched a dvd that at the end of the credits said the soundtrack was available on cassette..... |
| 03:28.39 | Napoleone | raid leaver clicks em then throws on ground |
| 03:28.56 | Napoleone | lol |
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| 03:31.54 | Jamash | I threw it on the ground |
| 03:32.49 | Hirsute | Napoleone: Can only the leader do it, or can those with an assist do it? |
| 03:32.59 | Jamash | assist |
| 03:33.05 | Napoleone | prob assistn aswel |
| 03:33.15 | Jamash | I was marking stuff yesterday |
| 03:33.16 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. I'm assist on this raid, but can't find it. |
| 03:34.17 | Hirsute | Op, found it. |
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| 03:49.03 | awweaver | If tornados are acts of god, why do most of them seem to happen int he bible belt? |
| 03:49.47 | Iriel | Maybe 'cos that's where he's looking? |
| 03:49.48 | Napoleone | bible belt? |
| 03:50.53 | awweaver | its a place in the US |
| 03:51.04 | awweaver | well Reigon |
| 03:51.35 | cogwheel | the states where there are road hazard signs that say nothing but "Church" |
| 03:52.44 | Arrowmaster | i think they might say "Church Entrance" or something here |
| 03:53.38 | Napoleone | anyone else have a slow as hell curse client? |
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| 03:55.34 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 03:55.40 | Shirik | Have you ever heard of ... bobobo-bo bo-bobo |
| 03:55.47 | kd3 | yes. it's utterly fucking insane |
| 03:55.57 | kd3 | and there's not much I use that descriptor for |
| 03:55.58 | Shirik | is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
| 03:56.03 | kd3 | it's up to you. |
| 03:56.07 | Shirik | ha |
| 03:56.12 | Shirik | a friend just told me about it |
| 03:56.18 | Shirik | I'm trying to figure out if I should watch it |
| 03:56.29 | Mr_Rabies | <@Shirik> Have you ever heard of ... bobobo-bo bo-bobo |
| 03:56.35 | Mr_Rabies | the best |
| 03:56.39 | Mr_Rabies | ok not the best but it's insane |
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| 03:57.41 | Mr_Rabies | kd3 how well versed on anime are you, i've forgotten more about you guys than i'd like to admit |
| 03:57.52 | kd3 | quite |
| 03:58.07 | kd3 | looks for a quick link to his anidb profile |
| 03:58.18 | kd3 | ...which I haven't updated in a few months now |
| 03:58.41 | kd3 | http://anidb.net/u328655 |
| 03:58.47 | Shirik | ok |
| 03:58.51 | Shirik | I've watched the first 2 minutes of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqusnHvskrc |
| 03:58.53 | Shirik | and I'm already scared |
| 03:59.36 | Shirik | you weren't kidding about "utterly fucking insane" |
| 03:59.51 | Mr_Rabies | have you been watching Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt kd3? |
| 03:59.57 | kd3 | like I said, of all of the crazy stuff I've watched, less than a handful get that designation |
| 03:59.57 | Mr_Rabies | because you should if you haven't |
| 04:00.08 | kd3 | rabies; I've seen the first few eps, I've got more on standby when I get a chance |
| 04:01.19 | Mr_Rabies | http://youtu.be/304ZXMSz7pY?hd=1 could be nsfw if your boss speaks japanese i guess |
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| 04:02.12 | Mr_Rabies | if you've got an open mind about anime you might like it shirik, it's also insane |
| 04:02.31 | kd3 | indeed |
| 04:02.38 | Mr_Rabies | It's about 2 angels that have fallen from heaven for one reason or another and need to pay their way back with heaven coins, by defeating ghosts |
| 04:02.41 | Mr_Rabies | here's the caveat |
| 04:02.50 | kd3 | drawn PPG style |
| 04:02.58 | Mr_Rabies | these particular angels have the ability to turn their underwear into the holy garb of the virgin mary |
| 04:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | and then into weaponry |
| 04:03.06 | kd3 | most decidedly not for PPG-age-watching kids |
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| 04:04.07 | Mr_Rabies | in episode 6 they encounter some high class demons with similar powers, kd3 :3 |
| 04:04.25 | Arrowmaster | i still havent watched 6 |
| 04:05.00 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw48o19fySc&feature=related almost definitely not safe for work |
| 04:05.08 | Mr_Rabies | that might make you want to watch it arrowmaster :p |
| 04:05.24 | Arrowmaster | i was planning to probably watch it later tonight |
| 04:05.38 | Mr_Rabies | such awesome music |
| 04:09.39 | Thunder_Child | the bg leader said something and this was one of the responses "[20:08:47] [B] [66:Crispy-Gar:3]: sry, your text is a different color, dont trust you, your prolly hacking" |
| 04:09.43 | Thunder_Child | i hope he is joking |
| 04:10.08 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: rofl |
| 04:10.43 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: it's not rofl if that comment was real |
| 04:10.56 | Wobin | it's rofl if it's not a BG I'm currently in =) |
| 04:11.09 | Wobin | schadenfreude is wonderful =P |
| 04:11.12 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 04:11.35 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: hm? |
| 04:11.43 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: hm hm? |
| 04:11.50 | Jerub | sorry, i don't understand why it's rofl. |
| 04:11.58 | Thunder_Child | that wanst me |
| 04:12.00 | Thunder_Child | wasnt* |
| 04:12.17 | Thunder_Child | Wobin rofl'd first |
| 04:13.00 | Wobin | I rofl'd cause it's terrible |
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| 04:23.07 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 04:26.09 | Xyphoid | they're on live |
| 04:26.10 | Xyphoid | you can play with them right now |
| 04:33.29 | Kraps | http://www.google.com/webhp?rls=ig |
| 04:37.33 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:37.41 | mikma | instaresult-search |
| 04:38.30 | Kraps | ? to you too Shirik |
| 04:39.27 | adys_ | Kraps, thats been out for weeks |
| 04:40.29 | Kraps | no way |
| 04:41.12 | Kraps | xrays has a weeks long anniversary? |
| 04:45.44 | Computerpunk | it's a tawp! |
| 04:45.57 | Kraps | adys_: ? |
| 04:46.14 | adys_ | ? |
| 04:47.01 | Kraps | what did you mean? |
| 04:47.39 | Amarande | so new cata related fun tomorrow |
| 04:47.57 | Amarande | or did phase 2 start today? |
| 04:49.14 | Kraps | today |
| 04:54.35 | Kraps | deviantART has an anthro category |
| 04:58.30 | Kraps | (its quiet... too quiet) |
| 04:58.46 | Thunder_Child | i do so enjoy deviantart |
| 04:59.32 | Amarande | hmm I think this will be the first time I've seen Perry Gatner in WoW. |
| 05:03.07 | Kraps | theres even inception art |
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| 05:06.51 | digmouse|work | hmmm got my cherry G80 |
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| 05:08.51 | Napoleone | happy terrorist day ;P |
| 05:09.03 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:09.34 | Jerub | Napoleone: wrong day |
| 05:09.43 | Jerub | it's sept-11, not nov-9 |
| 05:09.46 | Napoleone | not in europe way or dating ;P |
| 05:10.06 | Jerub | yeah, can't blame the americans, they don't take kindly to having their date system being ridiculed |
| 05:10.30 | Hirsute | <snotty_american_attitude> Well it didn't very well happen in Europe, now did it? </snott_american_attitude> |
| 05:10.39 | Shirik | XML error |
| 05:10.46 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 05:10.47 | Jerub | not in europe! |
| 05:10.58 | Napoleone | ewell its more logical to say day month year than month day year |
| 05:11.47 | Hirsute | More logical? I don't know about that. Certainly sorts better. Though, really, if we're interested in sorting, it should be Year Month Day |
| 05:12.54 | Jerub | Hirsute: yes, and that's how most of the world says it. |
| 05:13.14 | Shirik | Since when did America agree with the rest of the world on anything? |
| 05:13.21 | Hirsute | Jerub: It's generally the second most common way I do it, as well. |
| 05:13.22 | Shirik | We got mfing nukes ok |
| 05:13.26 | Shirik | We're the ones who get to say how things are done |
| 05:13.27 | Shirik | not you |
| 05:13.40 | Jerub | day/month/year or year-month-day are the two most common ways |
| 05:13.41 | Hirsute | I usually write 08 Nov 2010, for example. |
| 05:13.44 | Jerub | then there's the americans. |
| 05:14.08 | Shirik | I do what Hirsute does |
| 05:14.17 | Hirsute | (on 08 Nov 2010, on the 9th, I write 09 Nov 2010, etc...) |
| 05:14.22 | Hirsute | >.> |
| 05:14.53 | Hirsute | Oy scanning the AH is painful since the patch. |
| 05:15.14 | Kraps | i think we need to switch to the metric system though |
| 05:15.31 | Hirsute | At least when you're doing it without a full item cache. |
| 05:15.49 | Hirsute | Kraps: Suits me. I use it most of the day. |
| 05:16.20 | Amarande | yes, we do need to switch to the metric system. |
| 05:16.52 | Torhal | I've seen plenty of Americans who have switched to the metric system. At least, they say "A metric fuckton." |
| 05:17.25 | Hirsute | Torhal: Well, I mean, that's so much larger than the American equivalent. >.> |
| 05:18.36 | KarlKFI | Warcarft + Civ5 = http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=389792 |
| 05:19.06 | Kraps | a metric fuckton of redheads http://news.deviantart.com/article/103105/ (its deviantart, you figure out if its nsfw) |
| 05:19.34 | Shirik | what's wrong with DA? |
| 05:19.38 | Shirik | I have a DA account :/ |
| 05:19.56 | Kraps | did i say anythings wrong? |
| 05:21.24 | Amarande | Shirik: for a moment I thought you were talking about dragon age |
| 05:25.31 | Kraps | this is the most popular result for "girl" http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs21/f/2007/235/9/1/Girl_by_Exemi.jpg |
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| 05:33.56 | Shirik | ok night |
| 05:34.05 | Kraps | Shirik: |
| 05:34.06 | Kemayo | I work for dA, and it's... variably unsafe. :) |
| 05:35.12 | Kraps | Kemayo: cool, what do you do there? |
| 05:35.28 | Amarande | safety is a relative thing. *passes you a pamphlet about being secure in a doomed world* |
| 05:35.58 | Kemayo | I'm a developer |
| 05:37.15 | Thunder_Child | a llama? |
| 05:37.28 | Thunder_Child | a blue one no less |
| 05:38.36 | Amarande | so did phase 2 start today or does it start tomorrow? |
| 05:39.53 | Kemayo | Thunder_Child: Quite. |
| 05:40.06 | Kemayo | Amarande: I saw wow insider saying it had started today. |
| 05:40.16 | Thunder_Child | you know, you guys used to post your address |
| 05:41.06 | Kraps | Amarande: today |
| 05:41.11 | Kraps | 2 quests |
| 05:41.16 | Amarande | ahh, those quests were phase 2 then |
| 05:41.27 | Kemayo | It's still findable somewhere, I think. Though we exclusively give out an address for a PO box sort of near our HQ. Apparently we had some fun with bomb threats about 5 years ago. |
| 05:41.44 | Thunder_Child | yea, it was ~5 miles from me or so |
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| 05:42.59 | Kemayo | The funny part is that the HQ contains no developers at all. Every single one of us is a remote worker. |
| 05:43.31 | Thunder_Child | since da is all web based, i am not surprised |
| 05:43.51 | Jerub | Kemayo: what do you use for issue tracking/development planning? |
| 05:44.37 | Kemayo | Trac, basecamp, and our own groups platform. We're not terribly happy with trac. |
| 05:44.55 | Jerub | yeah, we use trac here |
| 05:45.00 | Kemayo | Unfortunately nothing has picked up sufficient momentum for us to get rid of it yet. |
| 05:45.03 | Jerub | looking at moving to greenhopper or RTC |
| 05:45.44 | Jerub | i really don't want to move to Rational Team Concert, and Greenhopper looks like it might be doable. (we're a scrum house) |
| 05:52.45 | Wobin | Kemayo: I suggest any Atlassian product =) |
| 05:53.19 | Wobin | (not that my guild is almost exclusively atlassian employees, or anything...) |
| 05:54.16 | Jerub | Wobin: hah |
| 05:54.24 | Jerub | Wobin: it was me looking at greenhopper |
| 05:54.39 | Jerub | Wobin: now i feel like changing server. where did you say you were playing? |
| 05:54.41 | Kemayo | Heh :) |
| 05:55.00 | Wobin | oh sure, but still suggesting it to Kemayo |
| 05:55.06 | Wobin | We're on Nagrand atm |
| 05:55.13 | Wobin | alliance |
| 05:56.09 | Jerub | okay, that's where i'm going to start my cata toons |
| 05:56.11 | Kraps | this is new http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/312/9/f/the_banshee_queen_by_dahlieka-d32gnjx.jpg |
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| 07:19.09 | Fisker | cbreak_work |
| 07:19.11 | Fisker | lets celebrate? |
| 07:24.12 | Fisker | so |
| 07:24.17 | Fisker | i will end time |
| 07:24.29 | Fisker | thanks for being a jerk Shirik :( |
| 07:26.57 | bluspacecow | my addon updates email folder is a bit full |
| 07:27.07 | bluspacecow | i should probably check it all soon |
| 07:28.20 | Fisker | you can't blue |
| 07:28.21 | Fisker | bah |
| 07:28.28 | Fisker | i just stopped time |
| 07:28.36 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 07:28.50 | bluspacecow | 377 items >_> |
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| 09:41.11 | msoul | top of the morning lads |
| 09:41.28 | Jerub | msoul: now, ffs, i'm here |
| 09:41.30 | Jerub | what's up? |
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| 09:42.06 | msoul | Jerub: hiyya, I meant to ask you about fire mages as I go oom pretty fast |
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| 09:42.29 | msoul | having mana issues and hearing some conflecting comments on molten armor vs mage armor |
| 09:43.32 | Jerub | msoul: there's arguements about it |
| 09:43.48 | Jerub | i selecgt armor situatinoally now |
| 09:44.16 | msoul | I see |
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| 09:44.56 | Jerub | long fights with lotsof sustained damage->mage |
| 09:44.59 | msoul | I didn't reforge anything for my mage but a neck to cap hit |
| 09:45.07 | Jerub | shorter fights, more time torecover mana->fire |
| 09:45.21 | msoul | Hmm |
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| 09:47.30 | Jerub | the mana recovery seems to be better thani expect from magearmor |
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| 09:48.36 | msoul | Jerub: yeah |
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| 09:57.08 | msoul | will wait and see as lots of changes still happening |
| 09:57.29 | msoul | affli locks will shine again |
| 10:00.21 | Jerub | i've been concentrating on druiding |
| 10:00.32 | Jerub | efflorencece is massively op |
| 10:01.01 | msoul | will focus mainly on my mage/lock the othe rchars will be for professions and if needed only |
| 10:01.21 | msoul | I might get my rogue to hit 80 but not sure about it still |
| 10:01.57 | Jerub | i did 6/12 HM icc10 theother day after replacing stam gems with agil and didn't hit my DR CDs on my bear |
| 10:02.21 | Jerub | which indicates to me thati can squeeze muchmore DPS out of my bear without threatening my survivabilty |
| 10:02.58 | msoul | dunno much about druids, any tank without a shield is not a tank :P |
| 10:03.15 | Jerub | :P |
| 10:03.25 | Jerub | i have a warrior too |
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| 10:03.52 | msoul | war and prot pala is op now |
| 10:03.54 | Jerub | i rationalised. |
| 10:04.17 | Jerub | i realised that i had 10-15k more hp than tanks who were 'main' tanking the LK |
| 10:04.43 | Jerub | and decided to throw out common bear tankingwisdom and put in +agil gems |
| 10:05.09 | Jerub | i'm probably going to wind down my expertise to softcap and push that to mastery too |
| 10:08.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Jerub: you play a bear? |
| 10:09.02 | Jerub | MoonWitch|Mobile: um. growl? grr grr stop forrest fires |
| 10:09.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i was gonna say if you have any pointers for a lvl 33 druid who wants to try feral tanking :P |
| 10:09.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | s/say/ask |
| 10:10.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | .... |
| 10:10.27 | MoonWitch|Mobile | s\say\ask |
| 10:10.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | *sigh* |
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| 10:13.31 | Jerub | MoonWitch|Mobile: hehehe. feral tank is the easiest. |
| 10:13.36 | MoonWitch|Mobile | going upstaira now before I kill mom :P |
| 10:13.40 | Jerub | glyph of maul is important. |
| 10:13.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ah yes |
| 10:13.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hold on |
| 10:14.01 | Jerub | apart from that, watch your rage, tab attack, etc. |
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| 10:16.58 | MoonWitch | ack |
| 10:16.59 | MoonWitch | s/ack/back |
| 10:17.10 | MoonWitch | for gods sake work damnit :P |
| 10:18.25 | Jerub | MoonWitch: heh |
| 10:18.35 | Jerub | apart from that, watch your rage, tab attack, etc. |
| 10:18.39 | MoonWitch | the search/replace thing in sentences in here |
| 10:18.53 | Jerub | MoonWitch: it usedtobe the Faerie Fire (Feral) was one of ourhighest threat attacks |
| 10:18.58 | Jerub | but that's nolonger true |
| 10:19.13 | MoonWitch | yeah I didn't completely keep up with changes in 401 |
| 10:19.41 | Jerub | MoonWitch: maulis not onthe gcd |
| 10:19.50 | Jerub | i didn't realise this, and tooltips don't tell you |
| 10:19.56 | Jerub | keep thatin mind ;) |
| 10:20.25 | MoonWitch | I just had been levelling this druid as feral dps |
| 10:20.39 | Jerub | yeah, thats what i did with my first druid |
| 10:20.57 | Jerub | feral dps, and i tanked when guildmates asked me to do dungeons withth them |
| 10:21.13 | MoonWitch | but I wanted to try feral tank, never done it -- and because I feel so strange as druid, I get so nervous even thinking about changing spec that it's well -- impossible for me to switch. |
| 10:21.16 | Jerub | i found tankingvery stressful to behgin with, i'd never playedwow before let alone tanked anything |
| 10:21.31 | Jerub | hit the bear button and tank afew :) |
| 10:21.40 | MoonWitch | I've holy tanked as pally though |
| 10:21.54 | Mirrormn | I always found tanking very easy |
| 10:21.57 | MoonWitch | (handy - my heals usually got me enough threat and kept me alive) |
| 10:22.12 | Mirrormn | it's like dpsing except you get to control things |
| 10:22.14 | Jerub | Mirrormn: i find it easy /now/ |
| 10:22.15 | MoonWitch | I've never played an actual tank, so it's a bit frightening :P (Always healer or subpar dps) |
| 10:22.26 | Jerub | but i was very stressed about and thatdidn't help |
| 10:22.34 | Jerub | MoonWitch: yeah, been there |
| 10:22.45 | Mirrormn | well I started tanking at the start of WotLK |
| 10:22.47 | Jerub | MoonWitch: so you probably don't know the secret only known totanks then |
| 10:23.06 | MoonWitch | which is another thing that annoys me, I can't seem to do the same amount of dps at 65 enh/ele shaman that a mage of the same level does :( |
| 10:23.17 | MoonWitch | Jerub: I don't. |
| 10:23.21 | Jerub | MoonWitch: TidyPlates, Neon-theme, Tank settings, turn on 'threat wheel'. |
| 10:23.32 | msoul | tanking is fun! |
| 10:23.37 | Jerub | MoonWitch: this is the secret sauce that separates the men from the boys |
| 10:23.52 | MoonWitch | alrighty then |
| 10:23.54 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 10:23.54 | Mirrormn | I use ThreatPlates personally |
| 10:24.10 | Jerub | Mirrormn: neon theme > threatplates for me |
| 10:24.18 | Mirrormn | I'll check it out |
| 10:24.27 | Mirrormn | I've never been especially enamored with threatplates |
| 10:24.56 | Mirrormn | I really want a nameplate theme that will clearly differentiate between something that is targeted and something that isn't |
| 10:25.02 | msoul | just omen |
| 10:25.05 | msoul | to check my tps |
| 10:25.19 | msoul | I stoped tanking for a while now |
| 10:25.29 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7vizgszUs&fmt=22 lol @ music in beginning |
| 10:25.31 | msoul | last time I tanked was on my pala before the patch |
| 10:25.32 | Jerub | omen is okay for single target |
| 10:25.52 | msoul | my tank is always on boss never got adds =) |
| 10:25.57 | Jerub | tidyplates lets you mousevoer a bunch of nameplates and pick out the one youhaveleast threat on so you can focus on him |
| 10:26.10 | msoul | so is aloft |
| 10:26.39 | msoul | I just use few addons atm |
| 10:26.45 | Jerub | (it only updates the threat stuff on mouseover) |
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| 10:27.03 | Jerub | msoul: i have this discussion with other tanks sometimes. |
| 10:27.08 | msoul | needtoknow to check my procs/debuff on target and tullarange/tinydps and bigwigs |
| 10:27.30 | Jerub | you never need to worryabout threat on bosses. youalways put out max threat at all times, and other people have to worry about being under you. |
| 10:27.43 | Jerub | it's onthe trash fights that plates are useful. |
| 10:28.08 | Mirrormn | you definitely need to worry about threat on bosses |
| 10:28.24 | Mirrormn | so you can yell at people who are about to pull on vent |
| 10:28.26 | Jerub | I was talking to someone the other day who basically said, "well, you can't be a very good tank then if youdon't have omen, where are you up to in icc?" |
| 10:28.36 | Mirrormn | and/or so you can immediately taunt the instant someone pulls threat off you |
| 10:28.49 | Jerub | Mirrormn: oh, that's just being bossy. you only need to have one person who's bossy |
| 10:28.55 | msoul | Mirrormn: I do when I do with randoms... you don't need to worry that much when you have ppl with actual brain "tot/Mt" |
| 10:29.00 | msoul | every now and then |
| 10:29.21 | Mirrormn | Omen is much like any other mod |
| 10:29.31 | Mirrormn | you can theoretically play without it, but why would you want to |
| 10:29.35 | Jerub | Mirrormn: but there's nothing you can do that omen will tell you todo that you wouldn't do normally on aboss fight |
| 10:29.41 | Mirrormn | all it does is give you useful information |
| 10:30.01 | Mirrormn | Jerub: yes there is |
| 10:30.04 | Jerub | Mirrormn: omen is invalueable for dps, but even they can get away with just the threat % on the targetunit frame nicely |
| 10:30.36 | msoul | Jerub: I'm not with you on the latter :) |
| 10:30.46 | Jerub | Mirrormn: yellow halo lets me know i'm losing threat, target of target lets me know if someone's pulled and who it is. |
| 10:30.57 | msoul | even dps have to know their tps... i.e. mages/locks for example |
| 10:30.57 | Mirrormn | first of all, as a DK tank, choosing to use Hysteria on yourself as opposed to a DPS |
| 10:31.09 | msoul | else wouldn'y see ppl use inv or soulshatter on lk and other bosses |
| 10:31.32 | Mirrormn | also, you can monitor the threat of other tanks to see how you stack up in comparison (especially other tanks of the same class/spec) |
| 10:31.53 | Mirrormn | you can use it to monitor the tps increase/decrease of changes in your rotation/spec |
| 10:32.12 | Jerub | Mirrormn: isn't dps a reasonable substitute for that? |
| 10:32.22 | Jerub | i mean,i always have recount up for that reason. |
| 10:32.25 | Mirrormn | you can also see when you have a large enough threat lead that you can alt-tab and pay attention to something else ^_^ |
| 10:32.27 | Mirrormn | no |
| 10:32.34 | Mirrormn | dps is not a reasonable substitute |
| 10:32.36 | Jerub | okay, i buy that :) |
| 10:32.42 | Jamash | saying you don't need a threat addon as a tank is like saying you don't need to be able to see mob's hp as dps |
| 10:32.45 | Jerub | (the alt-tab thing) |
| 10:32.48 | Mirrormn | many abilities have threat modifiers |
| 10:32.58 | Jamash | while technically true, it's misleading |
| 10:32.58 | Mirrormn | like I said before |
| 10:33.05 | Mirrormn | you can definitely tank without Omen |
| 10:33.11 | Mirrormn | but there's no reason you should |
| 10:33.15 | Mirrormn | it's just a useful tool |
| 10:33.18 | Jamash | or for that matter, that you don't need raid frames as a healer |
| 10:33.22 | Jerub | Jamash: i've smashed through 12/12 icc without threat addons, justusing thebuilt in threat indicators. |
| 10:33.24 | MoonWitch | I just use MyThreat -- but I found it to annoy me lately :( |
| 10:33.26 | Mirrormn | well that's a bit extreme |
| 10:33.47 | Mirrormn | Jerub: That's the same tired argument everyone uses to deny the need for any addon whatsoever |
| 10:33.53 | Mirrormn | "I can get along without it" |
| 10:33.55 | MoonWitch | also - I mainly am a healer - I know what I am doing and have Fade for my OHSHIT moments |
| 10:33.56 | Jerub | tidyplates, onthe otherhand, i useheaps for monitoring threat in trash fights, and i have serious trouble without that |
| 10:33.57 | Jamash | Jerub: yes, but so what? |
| 10:34.16 | Jerub | Jamash: i missed a lot of stuff, but omen wasn't one of the things i missed. |
| 10:34.31 | Jamash | now, did you have a threat addon when you were learning ICC? |
| 10:34.47 | Mirrormn | also, with regards to that "you just need someone bossy" argument from earlier - you should never depend on someone else to handle your responsibilities for you |
| 10:34.58 | Jerub | i think the only time i brought it up was for saurfang. |
| 10:35.28 | Jerub | Mirrormn: I rely on a good RL to handle telling people off for not getting things right. |
| 10:35.46 | Jerub | Mirrormn: if I'm RLing,i have all that stuff turned on so I can be that person |
| 10:35.54 | Mirrormn | well, that's poor participation, in my opinion |
| 10:35.59 | Mirrormn | single point of failure |
| 10:36.01 | Mirrormn | bad plan |
| 10:36.16 | Jerub | Mirrormn: clear division of repsonsibility :P |
| 10:36.25 | Mirrormn | everyone needs to be aware of everything that can affect anything they can have control of (within reason) |
| 10:36.43 | Mirrormn | same thing with regards to dps who play without raid frames |
| 10:36.47 | Mirrormn | I hate people like that -.- |
| 10:36.47 | Jamash | like I said, you _can_ tank without a threat meter, just like you _can_ dps without being able to see the hp of your target |
| 10:37.03 | Jamash | but why would you given the option? |
| 10:37.07 | Mirrormn | "I'm not healing, so what do I care about other people" |
| 10:37.42 | Jerub | i'm sooooo glad blizz included raid frames finally. |
| 10:37.53 | Jamash | you mean, good raid frames |
| 10:37.56 | Jerub | i'musingthe default ones, don't like them much but i use them |
| 10:37.59 | Jamash | they had them, they just sucked |
| 10:38.04 | Mirrormn | if you reduce yourself to a blind cog in the machine with no awareness of the bigger picture, then your decisionmaking in some circumstances is going to be suspect |
| 10:38.28 | Jerub | Jamash: i still want to know howto fix them so i canuse them for healing properly. |
| 10:38.38 | Jerub | you can make it show only thehotsyoucan cast |
| 10:38.44 | Jerub | i want it to showthe hots i actually cast |
| 10:38.48 | Jamash | ah |
| 10:38.49 | Jerub | which is differrent |
| 10:39.11 | Jerub | as a druid tank, i see all druid hots on my frames. |
| 10:39.23 | Mirrormn | completely unrelatedly |
| 10:39.24 | Jerub | as a druid healer, i see other druid's hots on my frames as well as my own |
| 10:39.32 | Mirrormn | is it bad that I can never remember my own cell phone number? |
| 10:39.42 | Jamash | 888-555-1212 |
| 10:39.51 | Jerub | Mirrormn: hehehehe, i lie and say i don't ahve a home phone because i never leanred the number |
| 10:40.09 | unfo- | Mirrormn, yes. |
| 10:40.10 | Mirrormn | I sometimes don't even remember how to find my own cell phone number on my cell phone -.- |
| 10:40.32 | unfo- | my phone number ends in 127.0.0.1 so it's easy ;) |
| 10:40.44 | Mirrormn | heh |
| 10:40.49 | Jerub | the hysteria thing is interesting btw |
| 10:41.06 | Jerub | oooh, i do recall one time i found nothaving omen annoying |
| 10:41.09 | Jerub | LDW on H |
| 10:41.28 | Jerub | that really needs detailed threat meters |
| 10:41.53 | Mirrormn | wat? |
| 10:42.03 | Mirrormn | oh deathwhisper |
| 10:42.08 | Mirrormn | yes |
| 10:42.15 | Mirrormn | nontauntable bosses ^_^ |
| 10:42.57 | Mirrormn | I also use Omen as an indicator of whether my taunt landed correctly ^_^ |
| 10:43.07 | Jerub | oh, i use auras for taht. |
| 10:43.13 | Mirrormn | WeakAuras? |
| 10:43.19 | Jerub | nah, builtin ones |
| 10:43.24 | Mirrormn | :< |
| 10:43.40 | Mirrormn | I need to get back into development for WeakAuras |
| 10:43.42 | Jerub | i've been winding back my addon usage. |
| 10:43.47 | Mirrormn | I've been ignoring it for almost a week now |
| 10:44.03 | Jerub | oh, i need a kitty debuffy watcher |
| 10:44.14 | Mirrormn | WeakAuras can do that |
| 10:44.17 | Jerub | badkitty decided to consuime all my ram and crash wow. |
| 10:44.19 | Mirrormn | it can do ANYTHING |
| 10:44.38 | Jerub | ... when i was on my shaman |
| 10:44.40 | Mirrormn | (almost literally) |
| 10:44.52 | Jerub | Mirrormn: is weakauras like power auras |
| 10:44.56 | Mirrormn | yes |
| 10:44.59 | Mirrormn | but better in every way |
| 10:45.03 | Jerub | i mean threat auras, the yellow/red glow around unit frames |
| 10:45.06 | Jerub | that's good |
| 10:45.30 | Jerub | Mirrormn: because the built in aura stuff sucks forcounting arcane barragestacks. |
| 10:45.38 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 10:45.49 | Jerub | and i need something to tell me about my lacerate stacks. |
| 10:46.04 | Jerub | power auras is waht i used before 4.0.1 |
| 10:46.21 | Jamash | I think you mean "the built in aura stuff sucks." |
| 10:46.35 | Mirrormn | unfortunately WeakAuras does not yet have a *simple* text-based indicator of stacks, but you can definitely make a series of displays that are dependent on stack counts |
| 10:46.44 | Jamash | Inline Auras all the way |
| 10:46.56 | Mirrormn | and some of the display types have stack indicators |
| 10:47.07 | Mirrormn | Icons and Progress Bars |
| 10:47.32 | Jamash | Inline Auras shows stacks and time remaining on the ability icon |
| 10:49.51 | Mirrormn | anyway, I really need to make an examples/tutorials page for WeakAuras |
| 10:50.00 | Mirrormn | so I can properly explain to people how awesome it is |
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| 10:51.50 | Jamash | at the very least you need screenshots |
| 10:52.34 | msoul | I just my debuffs with needtoknow |
| 10:52.42 | msoul | whatever I need to track anyway |
| 10:52.57 | Mirrormn | yes I do, Jamash |
| 10:52.59 | msoul | I just need to find an easier way for affli lock |
| 10:53.10 | Jamash | see the thing about Inline Auras is you don't have to configure it |
| 10:53.17 | Mirrormn | well |
| 10:53.19 | msoul | checking |
| 10:53.21 | Jamash | got a spell on your action bar? there you go |
| 10:53.23 | Mirrormn | that's not true of WeakAuras |
| 10:53.32 | Mirrormn | although the configuration is actually pretty easy |
| 10:53.43 | Mirrormn | I've made displays in the middle of combat before in a couple of seconds |
| 10:53.44 | Jamash | I find it invaluable on my aff lock |
| 10:54.04 | msoul | was afk |
| 10:54.08 | msoul | what it does again jmash |
| 10:54.10 | Jerub | on my bear i haveto manage something quite simple. |
| 10:54.30 | msoul | oh |
| 10:54.40 | Jamash | it puts the cooldown and number of stacks that a spell has on your current target on the action button |
| 10:54.51 | Jamash | s/cooldown/duration/ |
| 10:55.10 | msoul | not sure how to describe what I want to sya in english but I will try |
| 10:55.18 | Jerub | i want to hit a button when i have 3 stacks of a debuff on my oppoenent, but everything else is a priority, and only really want to hit itwhen my own(18s) buffis running low |
| 10:55.21 | msoul | will it have any conflict with omni addon? |
| 10:55.21 | Jerub | ughl. |
| 10:55.24 | Jerub | it's really complicated |
| 10:55.26 | Jamash | msoul: nope |
| 10:55.43 | Jerub | i have a buff i refresh by removing a debuff off my target |
| 10:56.17 | Jerub | and tomanageit i have to look at debuff stack numbers, time left on debuff, time left on my ownbuff, plus CDs on my abilities so i can prioritise |
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| 10:57.07 | msoul | it will be difficult to keep track on shadow embrace/refreshing your debuffs etc |
| 10:57.15 | msoul | can't be sure until I try it |
| 10:57.37 | Jerub | i do this stuff without addons atthemoemnt, but it's hard to do |
| 10:57.41 | Jerub | i basically do a badjob |
| 10:58.16 | msoul | it's a crucial thing for affli lock really if you delay an ability or refresh it before the last tick |
| 10:58.17 | Jamash | it's great for any debuff that's tied 1-to-1 with a spell |
| 10:58.34 | Jamash | doesn't help with shadow embrace |
| 10:58.40 | msoul | you can't "clip/klip or however you spell it" that one |
| 10:58.45 | msoul | bane of agnony |
| 10:59.17 | msoul | Jamash: will definitely give it a try later on |
| 10:59.27 | msoul | strairing at spell timers is not cool :/ |
| 11:00.22 | Jerub | considers. |
| 11:00.40 | Jerub | what dopeople like more? dbm or bigwigs |
| 11:00.59 | Jamash | haven't tried bigwigs |
| 11:01.26 | unfo- | i use dbm, tried bigwigs in tbc and it was not any better than dbm which i was used to |
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| 11:01.51 | msoul | BigWigs most of ppl I know and high end rading guilds |
| 11:01.57 | zenzelezz | personally I don't really like any boss mods; I just used whatever my guild mandated at the time |
| 11:02.03 | msoul | use bw over dbm |
| 11:02.19 | unfo- | ok. gotta give bw a try in cata then |
| 11:02.29 | Jerub | yeah, i realised both how useful they are and how little i used them whenthey broke forem a month ago |
| 11:02.35 | Jerub | done 3 iccs since then without them |
| 11:02.36 | Mirrormn | I'm using DBM but I think I might switch to bigwigs |
| 11:02.59 | msoul | I used dbm a week or so in naxx then switcxhed back to bw |
| 11:03.10 | Jamash | well, they've made a number of important changes to make boss addons less mandatory |
| 11:03.15 | Mirrormn | and I generally use WeakAuras to create fight-specific indicators of things I really care about XD |
| 11:03.33 | unfo- | weakauras? how does that related to powerauras?-D |
| 11:03.37 | msoul | Jamash: yeah, knowing what the boss will do before the fights in cata |
| 11:03.48 | msoul | no need to spend countless of hours to learn an ability |
| 11:04.06 | zenzelezz | BW and DBM were never about learning boss abilities |
| 11:04.13 | Mirrormn | WeakAuras essentially does everything PowerAuras does except more, better, with a better UI, while using less CPU |
| 11:04.20 | zenzelezz | they were about running running somewhere or hitting some button when it yelled at you |
| 11:04.23 | msoul | zenzelezz: to "warn" you it's coming ;) |
| 11:04.40 | zenzelezz | msoul: aye, and they made most bosses do emotes some time ago =) |
| 11:04.47 | msoul | hehe |
| 11:05.00 | Dajova | emotes yeah... not timers :P |
| 11:05.15 | Mirrormn | BW and DBM were always essentially about timing the cooldown of boss abilities |
| 11:05.16 | msoul | I yelled the first week we tried saurfang |
| 11:05.32 | Jamash | so my guild leader raids mostly without addons because he "doesn't need them" |
| 11:05.50 | Dajova | good for him |
| 11:05.54 | msoul | lol |
| 11:05.56 | Mirrormn | they've evolved to be a little more active than that, but that's what they were based on in the beginning |
| 11:06.10 | Jamash | but the only reason he "doesn't need them" is because someone else is reading off their DBM warnings over vent |
| 11:06.13 | msoul | Jamash: I use 1 addon to track things and that is needtoknow |
| 11:06.30 | Jamash | which strikes me as being a liability, not an advantage |
| 11:06.35 | Jerub | Jamash: *nod* |
| 11:06.37 | msoul | tullarange, tinydps and that's about it + bw |
| 11:06.50 | Jerub | actually, that's thetime i missed them most |
| 11:06.53 | Jerub | H:LDW |
| 11:06.53 | Dajova | im using too many addons :) |
| 11:07.01 | msoul | oh and castbars |
| 11:07.13 | Jerub | knowing whenthe next adds would appear was something i really needed as a tank |
| 11:07.15 | Jamash | he says he's too busy staring at health bars to read addons |
| 11:07.16 | msoul | I'm very sensitive when it comes to memory |
| 11:07.28 | msoul | I don't have memory issues |
| 11:07.33 | Jerub | that was theonly thing that caused me any grief not having boss mods inthelast few weeks |
| 11:07.44 | msoul | memory usage? |
| 11:07.47 | Jamash | but when I heal I find I can see fine because I use grid instead of the default |
| 11:08.17 | Dajova | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw46197.jpg mine |
| 11:08.21 | Mirrormn | memory usage is not an effective indicator of performance |
| 11:08.51 | msoul | not talking about preformance, I just don't like to see an addon uses xxxx memory |
| 11:08.54 | Mirrormn | I could write an addon that uses 1KB of memory that reduces your framerate by 90% |
| 11:09.03 | msoul | recount goes up to 6mb iirc in fights |
| 11:09.08 | msoul | is what made me switch to tinydps |
| 11:09.14 | Jamash | Dajova: what's the addon that shows those stats at the bottom? |
| 11:09.15 | Mirrormn | and I could write an addon that uses 10MB of memory that doesn't affect your performance at all |
| 11:09.32 | Jerub | msoul: howmuchram in your pc |
| 11:09.33 | Dajova | its a complete ui, not a single mod |
| 11:09.44 | Jamash | I have no use for complete UIs |
| 11:09.57 | msoul | Jerub: I don't have problems with my mac or memory :) |
| 11:10.02 | msoul | I am just "sensitive" |
| 11:10.12 | Jerub | msoul: heh |
| 11:10.19 | Jerub | msoul: don't stress about memory usage. |
| 11:10.21 | Jamash | Armory uses 16MB and I don't care because I want all that information |
| 11:10.24 | Jerub | espeially not things like recount |
| 11:10.44 | msoul | that was an example |
| 11:10.45 | Mirrormn | well, to be fair |
| 11:10.59 | Jerub | however, if you're seeing things like Badkitty baloon memory while playing your shaman, uninstall it |
| 11:10.59 | Jamash | although I'm certain Armory could be vastly more optimized than it is |
| 11:11.03 | Jerub | :P |
| 11:11.05 | Mirrormn | recount saves huge amounts of combat history to its SavedVariables |
| 11:11.10 | Dajova | Jamash: That's why i like Tukui as opposed to many other compilations. Cause it's both low on CPU and mem |
| 11:11.15 | Mirrormn | which can *severely* affect your load/logoff times |
| 11:11.37 | unfo- | Dajova, i've been meaning to use tukui. you have been happy with it? |
| 11:11.41 | Jerub | Mirrormn: i wouldn't hate that somuch if i could log that properly. |
| 11:11.51 | Jerub | but it's gjust goingto geterased next time i join agroup isn't it |
| 11:11.59 | Mirrormn | in fact, I always habitually clear recount before I /reloadui because if I don't, it takes like 10-15 seconds longer |
| 11:12.00 | Dajova | unfo: been using it ever since i got my 21" monitor |
| 11:12.03 | Jamash | Dajova: The reason I have no use for complete UIs is not related to CPU or memory |
| 11:12.17 | unfo- | Dajova, kk. gotta check it out then. |
| 11:12.31 | Mirrormn | especially when I was coding LKAnnounce |
| 11:12.36 | Dajova | and the ss i posted is from my version of it, so :) |
| 11:12.43 | Mirrormn | and was essentially coding in between pulls of HLK |
| 11:13.04 | Mirrormn | and often needed to /reload right before the 1minute pull countdown finished |
| 11:13.22 | Mirrormn | 10-15s of waiting for recount to save and reload 15mb of combat logs is completely unacceptabl |
| 11:13.42 | Jamash | it should have an option to flush on logout |
| 11:13.51 | Mirrormn | it should |
| 11:14.23 | Mirrormn | which would actually just be an option to not store combat data in a SavedVariables table |
| 11:14.37 | Jamash | true |
| 11:15.17 | Mirrormn | oh wow it's 6:15 O.o |
| 11:15.22 | Mirrormn | where have the last 3 hours gone |
| 11:15.24 | Jamash | it is |
| 11:15.24 | mitch0 | is not |
| 11:15.39 | Dajova | uhm |
| 11:15.43 | Dajova | 12:15 here :P |
| 11:15.51 | Jamash | are you in hawaii? |
| 11:16.02 | Dajova | no, r u in us? :P |
| 11:16.05 | Jamash | yes |
| 11:16.09 | Dajova | then duh |
| 11:16.12 | Dajova | europe |
| 11:16.13 | unfo- | 1 pm here; only 4,5 hrs till i get to go home and play the new cod ^^ |
| 11:16.23 | Jamash | well I didn't know which 12:15 you meant |
| 11:16.30 | mitch0 | there's only one |
| 11:16.36 | Dajova | we dont use am/pm so |
| 11:16.37 | mitch0 | AM/PM is for dummies |
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| 12:24.06 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:24.07 | Fisker | my man |
| 12:24.11 | Fisker | my manly man |
| 12:25.53 | Kalroth | Hej Fisker! Kører det?! |
| 12:28.22 | Fisker | jA JEG KÃRER |
| 12:28.26 | Fisker | hov |
| 12:28.32 | Fisker | kører du? |
| 12:29.00 | unfo- | dansk || norska? |
| 12:29.01 | Kalroth | vroom |
| 12:29.05 | Fisker | dansk |
| 12:29.06 | Kalroth | dansk |
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| 12:29.10 | unfo- | kk. |
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| 12:31.18 | Computerpunk | is anyone's curse client buggy? |
| 12:31.19 | Computerpunk | -_- |
| 12:40.48 | Computerpunk | fresh install, k |
| 12:47.05 | MoonWitch | Computerpunk: you mean the script error popup? |
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| 12:58.24 | Fisker | haste my man |
| 12:59.11 | MoonWitch | walmart scares (and scars) me |
| 13:09.09 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:18.17 | foxlit | "maybeMakeExternalImage" |
| 13:18.39 | foxlit | If the next method name is not "orMaybeNotSeeIfICare" I'll be disappointed. |
| 13:18.46 | haste | Fisker my troll |
| 13:28.35 | Fisker | haste my man |
| 13:28.41 | Fisker | still into eee pc's? |
| 13:33.31 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:41.17 | Lopeppeppy | glomps on alestane. Ha! |
| 13:41.27 | alestane | Oof! |
| 13:41.32 | alestane | Well hi there! |
| 13:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Poor alestane, mugged by a redheaded bundle. |
| 13:41.59 | alestane | Oh yes. Poor, poor me. How trying it is. |
| 13:42.21 | Lopeppeppy | I know. I'm sure Cairenn will sympathize when she wakes up. |
| 13:42.53 | alestane | By mugging me some more? I don't know *what* I'll do. |
| 13:43.37 | Lopeppeppy | Poor thing. I'm so sorry to treat you so badly. |
| 13:44.08 | MoonWitch | alestane: what happened? |
| 13:45.01 | Lopeppeppy | I ate-d him for breakfast. |
| 13:45.07 | alestane | Well, I got glomped, see... |
| 13:45.09 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, don't tease. |
| 13:45.44 | MoonWitch | alestane: poor you *huggle* |
| 13:45.49 | alestane | Remember...."'RAWR' means 'I love you' in Dinosaur!" |
| 13:46.08 | Lopeppeppy | RAWRAWR! |
| 13:46.12 | alestane | Oh, Peppy, did you see we has new Dino cousin? |
| 13:46.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, no! I don't have my auth on my keychain, I can't go say hi! |
| 13:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | *pout* |
| 13:46.44 | alestane | Bluspacecow appears to have joined the crowd. |
| 13:49.37 | Lopeppeppy | Awesome! Which forum? |
| 13:51.42 | alestane | I don't think he labelled himself, but presumably ours. |
| 13:51.52 | Lopeppeppy | Squeeee! |
| 13:51.57 | zenzelezz | now you can say a lot of things about dinosaurs, but I would hardly call them a blue space cow |
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| 13:54.37 | zenzelezz | unless that's what actually happened to the dinosaurs... they buried their dead, and left on space ships |
| 13:55.02 | alestane | According to the new Azshara questline, that's pretty much what happened. |
| 13:55.14 | zenzelezz | I don't mean in WoW |
| 13:55.28 | alestane | I know. |
| 13:55.49 | alestane | But the developers appear to agree with you. |
| 13:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | We went to heaven, alestane? How neat. |
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| 13:58.50 | alestane | A raptor who was a goblin research subject burns the lab down and build a spaceship to found a new civilization. |
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| 14:01.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ye....ah..... |
| 14:01.25 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5684775/review-call-of-duty-black-ops-modern-warfare-redefined sounds good |
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| 14:03.39 | Thrae | Kraps: Widespread reports of bugginess on Steam Multiplayer, part of which can be fixed by disabling Steam Cloud integration and disabling the game's recording feature. For a competitive multiplayer FPS it's got a buggy launch. |
| 14:04.17 | Thrae | Kraps: Also reports of weird resource usage (again, multiplayer) that doesn't seem to coincide with anything. |
| 14:04.36 | Kraps | meh, those will get fixed |
| 14:04.37 | Thrae | All in all, if you're a fan of competitive FPS multiplayer, wait for the patches. |
| 14:04.50 | Kraps | the sp sounds great |
| 14:05.03 | alestane | Gotta love these reassuring little messages: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-22201.html |
| 14:05.06 | Thrae | Yeah the bugs don't effect single-player. |
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| 14:07.04 | alestane | ... |
| 14:07.07 | alestane | ... http://notalwaysright.com/monsters-of-the-id/8229 ... |
| 14:07.09 | alestane | ... |
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| 14:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | This is why I don't let drunk people in my house? |
| 14:20.06 | Thunder_Child | you lose out on a lot of fun that way |
| 14:20.14 | foxlit | '/\[\[([^:][^|][^|\]]*[^:\s])\s*\]\]/' |
| 14:20.19 | foxlit | Clearly readable |
| 14:20.46 | Kalroth | that looks like kirby in a road accident |
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| 14:21.34 | Alram | oh u Kalroth |
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| 14:23.55 | Ackis | hey Cairenn|afk I got a PM asking if all addon admins were Canadian because of you and me :D lol |
| 14:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, some are Australian, eh? |
| 14:24.33 | Ackis | good day mate |
| 14:25.34 | Lopeppeppy | That's not a knife. THIS is a knife. |
| 14:25.51 | Ackis | good movie that was |
| 14:26.36 | Ackis | I watched splice last night |
| 14:26.40 | Ackis | was interesting |
| 14:26.57 | Humbedooh | so liek - seems that curse was uhm... semi-hacked ;< |
| 14:26.58 | Lopeppeppy | splice? |
| 14:27.12 | Lopeppeppy | semi-hacked? |
| 14:27.13 | Humbedooh | or rather, the old ISP was...somehow |
| 14:27.15 | alestane | Dreadful-looking movie. |
| 14:27.23 | krka | ~google splice |
| 14:27.32 | alestane | Frankenstein meets Genetic Engineering. |
| 14:27.42 | alestane | !g splice |
| 14:27.43 | batbot | alestane: Splice (2009) - IMDb <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017460/> |
| 14:27.44 | Lopeppeppy | fun times, genetic frankenstein-ing |
| 14:27.46 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splice_%28film%29 |
| 14:27.46 | Humbedooh | I've been getting chinese spams on my curse.com email address, sent from the old curse mail sever :\ |
| 14:28.12 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, now that's specific, Humbedooh! Forward them to one of the curse admins, maybe? |
| 14:28.49 | Humbedooh | well I sort of..deleted the emails :> |
| 14:29.30 | Lopeppeppy | Well, that's not sorta gonna help. *blows raspberries* |
| 14:30.00 | Humbedooh | atlantis.smtpz.com is the culprit |
| 14:30.17 | Nobgul | That movie looks weird |
| 14:30.27 | Humbedooh | and according to http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/828-badly-configured-mail-server/ , curse.com used to have an SPF record with that address approved for mails |
| 14:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | So send all of that in a site PM to one of the admins.... |
| 14:31.19 | Humbedooh | but...that'd mean I'd have to do stuff :( |
| 14:31.21 | Lopeppeppy | I nominate Kody! |
| 14:31.29 | Humbedooh | I nominate Ackis! |
| 14:31.29 | Ackis | it won't be kody |
| 14:31.34 | Ackis | nor me |
| 14:31.42 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:31.49 | Ackis | submit a curse.com support ticket |
| 14:31.53 | Humbedooh | you saying I should trust a non-canadian with it? ;O |
| 14:31.55 | Ackis | (not curseforge) |
| 14:32.03 | Ackis | just saying I can't deal with it :P |
| 14:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | Ah ha, Ackis tells you where to go and do! |
| 14:32.42 | Lopeppeppy | gives Ackis a raspberry sorbet! |
| 14:32.49 | Ackis | om nom nom nom |
| 14:43.09 | Ackis | apparently there's a Zork Easter Egg in CoD: Black Ops |
| 14:44.09 | Humbedooh | so...tried to make a ticket on curse |
| 14:44.20 | Humbedooh | and all I got was this lousy T-shirt saying "Unknown enum value: 0, This field is required" :\ |
| 14:46.21 | Ackis | Curse.com dev doesn't look to be in yet |
| 14:47.48 | Humbedooh | well he smells then...and is gay...and stuff |
| 14:47.58 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 14:48.20 | Humbedooh | clearly we need moar canadian admins then |
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| 14:48.28 | Ackis | eh/ |
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| 15:07.28 | alestane | Are other people unable to log into beta? |
| 15:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | Today being Tuesday, I venture that value will be yes... |
| 15:08.22 | Ackis | common loot card in the new TCG is a lil' KT |
| 15:08.22 | alestane | Only funny because the live servers are up. |
| 15:08.24 | Ackis | XT |
| 15:08.28 | Ackis | rare is a mottled drake |
| 15:08.43 | Ackis | http://cryptozoic.posterous.com/new-date-for-worldbreaker-and-darkmoon-faire |
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| 15:37.29 | Fisker | why do you hate me haste ? |
| 15:40.15 | haste | Fisker: beacuse I'm mostly afk at work! |
| 15:41.25 | Fisker | afk at work? |
| 15:41.36 | Fisker | anyway haste |
| 15:41.42 | Fisker | know shit about the newest eee pc? |
| 15:42.13 | harl | wuff wuff! |
| 15:43.23 | Fisker | harl |
| 15:43.25 | Fisker | die |
| 15:46.38 | Wobin | Ackis: xyzzy? |
| 15:51.22 | Ackis | ? |
| 15:55.59 | Fisker | cheater |
| 15:56.01 | Fisker | CHEAAAAAAAAAAATER |
| 15:56.41 | Ackis | what's xyzzy? |
| 15:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Dizzy? Hugs and kisses until you're dizzy? |
| 15:59.06 | cog|work | morning |
| 15:59.17 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 15:59.30 | alestane | Yes please, Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:59.33 | cog|work | Fisker: |
| 16:00.40 | Fisker | you probably didn't see that coming eh cog|work ? |
| 16:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I'm already dizzy! |
| 16:01.56 | cog|work | if you're "that" then i didn't want to |
| 16:02.16 | Fisker | you don't want to see me coming? |
| 16:02.25 | alestane | refrains from dancing Lopeppeppy around in circles |
| 16:02.37 | cog|work | straight lines, perhaps? |
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| 16:05.44 | Lopeppeppy | I am soooo made of sneaky! |
| 16:06.13 | aX0rZ | Hi, does someone know where I can get FrameXML for PTR? |
| 16:06.30 | alestane | What stealthy thing have you done now? |
| 16:07.56 | industrial | https://gist.github.com/2c31902dfb865e130a3b |
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| 16:08.17 | industrial | line 123 |
| 16:08.19 | Maldivia | guess he was too impatient to wait for a response |
| 16:08.24 | aX0rZ | sry |
| 16:08.29 | aX0rZ | did i mess response? |
| 16:08.31 | aX0rZ | *miss |
| 16:08.44 | industrial | this doesn't get me working slash commands |
| 16:08.45 | industrial | :S |
| 16:09.06 | Maldivia | no official ptr, that i know off, but there are unofficisl tools to extract for you |
| 16:09.16 | aX0rZ | cool |
| 16:09.20 | aX0rZ | where can i get them? |
| 16:09.27 | aX0rZ | wowcompares.com doesn't work for me |
| 16:09.41 | Maldivia | ~framexml |
| 16:09.42 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 16:10.00 | Maldivia | checked those ? |
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| 16:11.01 | aX0rZ | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml seems for 4.0.3 |
| 16:11.01 | aX0rZ | tanks |
| 16:11.19 | nevcairiel | its probably beta and not ptr, but same diff i guess |
| 16:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I saved an unsaveable movie from the interwebs! |
| 16:13.27 | Maldivia | lopeppeppy, orbit ? |
| 16:14.10 | Fisker | i need to kill haste though |
| 16:14.35 | haste | or do you?! |
| 16:15.19 | Fisker | well haste |
| 16:15.23 | Fisker | you didn't halp :( |
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| 16:17.56 | haste | I never help |
| 16:19.51 | Lopeppeppy | Maldivia, a file from one of our designers, which had been download protected in spite of being the "go here to get your product" link they gave me. |
| 16:20.18 | Nobgul | industrial: Still borked slash commands? |
| 16:20.55 | industrial | nop, thanks |
| 16:21.07 | Nobgul | lul, so they are working now? |
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| 16:23.56 | industrial | Yes. I thought AceDBOptions just took my db and magically made options for it :P Guess I'm going to have to specify it myself |
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| 16:32.39 | sylvaan | i should have started blackops before i came home from work - the unpacking is taking forever |
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| 16:38.06 | aX0rZ | Why are so many people using "PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD" instead of "PLAYER_LOGIN"? |
| 16:38.22 | nevcairiel | it depends what you need it for, PEW fires later |
| 16:38.42 | dardack | question in a for loop, is there anyway to rewind, ie ok looping through 14 items at a time in companion list, but if the companion is a flyer i want to skip it move to next one but test that one also, without moving the for counter up 1 |
| 16:39.07 | nevcairiel | count manually |
| 16:39.20 | dardack | so not in a for loop? |
| 16:39.48 | dardack | doh while loop |
| 16:40.05 | DarthAndroid_ | nevcairiel: do you know where I can find info on UNIT_HEALTH_PREDICTION ? |
| 16:40.34 | nevcairiel | The decision should not matter on that. Its pretty simple: Do you know how many items you have in the list? Yes: for; No: while |
| 16:40.44 | nevcairiel | just keep a seperate counter, regardless of how the loop works |
| 16:41.57 | nevcairiel | DarthAndroid_: in your WoW client and the friendly event trace .) |
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| 16:43.00 | DarthAndroid_ | How can I do event tracing? I tried registering print to an OnEvent handler and then registering for that event, but I get no output. Is there another way to monitor events? |
| 16:43.55 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.01 | nevcairiel | *eventtrace |
| 16:44.05 | nevcairiel | have to spell it properly :p |
| 16:44.06 | DarthAndroid_ | alright, thanks :) |
| 16:44.11 | nevcairiel | also, i suggest getting DevTools |
| 16:44.15 | nevcairiel | its event trace has filtering |
| 16:44.25 | DarthAndroid_ | thanks again :D |
| 16:44.44 | adys_ | So for anyone who actually still cares about this world, and important things that happen in it |
| 16:44.47 | adys_ | 7310"Extradition II: The Actual Extradition Part"[17]November 10, 2010 |
| 16:44.59 | adys_ | psych season starts again tomorrow <3 |
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| 16:45.06 | nevcairiel | yay! |
| 16:45.53 | Maldivia | hmm, Im already a season behind |
| 16:45.58 | DarthAndroid_ | nevcairiel: Unrelated question: has BT4 hrun into errors about an invalid restricted environment on the cata beta? |
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| 16:46.11 | adys_ | How dare you Maldivia =( |
| 16:46.33 | nevcairiel | DarthAndroid_: it used to, that was a blizzard error, was fixed |
| 16:46.46 | adys_ | Oh and in other good news |
| 16:46.49 | DarthAndroid_ | alright, I'll test my stuff again then :) |
| 16:46.54 | adys_ | next wine version, INTZ is supported |
| 16:47.04 | adys_ | which means, full details for wow d3d on wine :3 |
| 16:47.23 | nevcairiel | with full speed too? |
| 16:47.43 | adys_ | afaik yes; Im still not back home so cant test |
| 16:47.57 | nevcairiel | i never managed to get d3d mode to work in any decent speed |
| 16:48.03 | nevcairiel | always had to use ogl to get something playable |
| 16:48.08 | adys_ | pre cata? |
| 16:48.15 | nevcairiel | but havent tried for half a year, i just play with windows now |
| 16:48.16 | adys_ | because the cata engine is really a lot better |
| 16:48.16 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 16:48.20 | adys_ | yeah |
| 16:48.25 | adys_ | theres still a leak though |
| 16:48.26 | adys_ | sec |
| 16:48.42 | nevcairiel | I should try again, need to re-setup my linux anyhow, it kinda .. broke |
| 16:48.54 | adys_ | http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24783 thats the only leak i found |
| 16:49.04 | adys_ | if you dont consider terrain shadows as being super slow as a leak |
| 16:49.39 | nevcairiel | ultra shadows are super slow for everyone |
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| 16:49.42 | adys_ | Yea |
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| 16:50.17 | nevcairiel | i usually play with "good" now, it looks a bit weird sometimes when your char shadow appears somewhere thats not shadowed otherwise, but hey |
| 16:51.18 | nevcairiel | I dont think there is a system out there that can play WoW completly fluedly at a high resolution and ultra settings |
| 16:51.21 | nevcairiel | not if you to dalaran |
| 16:51.29 | aX0rZ | depends on your server |
| 16:51.42 | nevcairiel | s/to/go to/ |
| 16:52.39 | nevcairiel | I overclocked my i7 to be around the performance of a stock 980X, just with less cores (which wow fails to use anyhow), and its still slow (GPU load ~50%) |
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| 16:52.43 | nevcairiel | so, i doubt it :d |
| 16:52.48 | nevcairiel | except your server is deserted :p |
| 16:53.49 | aX0rZ | try out some RP-realms :P |
| 16:53.50 | nevcairiel | better multicore support would really do something for the game :) |
| 16:54.53 | greppy | DK Rune Strike question, is it still a toggle ability? ie put it in a macro with "/use Death Strike; /use !Rune Strike" |
| 16:55.21 | nevcairiel | no, its now an instant |
| 16:55.27 | greppy | bleh |
| 16:55.29 | greppy | oh well. |
| 16:55.54 | Maldivia | nev, as long as the UI stays single threaded ;) |
| 16:56.03 | nevcairiel | Would be kinda fun if it weren't |
| 16:56.14 | Maldivia | would be a nightmare |
| 16:56.17 | nevcairiel | the bad authors would finally figure out that they suck |
| 16:56.21 | durcyn | smp lua, woo! |
| 16:56.49 | Lopeppeppy | No, bad authors just go to user-hell to be the resident demons. |
| 16:57.14 | nevcairiel | speaking of nuking my linux and re-doing it, whats everyones favorite linux distro these days? I heard rumors gentoo is "out" |
| 16:57.17 | aX0rZ | well w/o bad authors we would miss like 95% of all addons and some of them are still usefull |
| 16:57.27 | aX0rZ | nev: Arch is cool |
| 16:57.55 | nevcairiel | i tried arch once, i didnt like it |
| 16:58.25 | greppy | nevcairiel: I've been liking ubuntu for the last couple of years, thinking of taking Linux Mint for a spin. |
| 17:00.00 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: you could always go BSD instead :) |
| 17:00.29 | aX0rZ | nah bsd has no graphic drivers |
| 17:00.31 | nevcairiel | nvidia has bsd drivers usually |
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| 17:00.45 | greppy | read that as "bad" drivers |
| 17:00.48 | greppy | should go to bed. |
| 17:01.03 | Computerpunk | feels the same as greppy. |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | I just read an article last week that buntu wants to replace X11 with something new and fresh |
| 17:01.13 | greppy | yeah |
| 17:01.49 | greppy | but that won't be for a while, and you can still use X11, and in theory they are going to work with people that want to move to the new software. |
| 17:01.57 | adys_ | nevcairiel, they want to use Wayland, yeah |
| 17:02.13 | nevcairiel | i suppose that needs new drivers too, eh |
| 17:02.15 | adys_ | i dont see that happening given that wayland dev is stalled more or less |
| 17:02.34 | nevcairiel | I wish the nvidia prop driver would get KMS, that would be neat |
| 17:03.15 | adys_ | nvidia is rewriting a fair bit of code for the 3xx line. |
| 17:03.25 | adys_ | hopefully we'll get some of these showstoppers ther |
| 17:03.26 | adys_ | e |
| 17:03.43 | nevcairiel | can has kms with nouvea, but no playing performance in that driver |
| 17:03.59 | adys_ | meh, nouveau |
| 17:04.30 | nevcairiel | I'm all for open source, but without cooperation from the manufacturer, it'll always be behind |
| 17:04.40 | greppy | == nevcairiel |
| 17:04.40 | adys_ | people need to give companies a good case to the manufacturers to open source their own drivers |
| 17:04.48 | adys_ | instead of "lol im gonna make my own" |
| 17:05.09 | adys_ | "did you just license gpl3? you son of a bitch! Im making a new one from scratch on my own!" |
| 17:05.26 | greppy | part of the issue there is licensing and patents, which sucks. |
| 17:05.39 | nevcairiel | sometime the open source people can go a bit crazy |
| 17:05.44 | adys_ | rly |
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| 17:06.58 | greppy | no way! in my ~15 years of using F/OSS I've never seen that! |
| 17:07.19 | adys_ | greppy forked reality because he wasnt happy with the drama in it |
| 17:07.28 | nevcairiel | that i can understand |
| 17:07.32 | nevcairiel | can i join yours? |
| 17:07.56 | greppy | only if you submit patches. |
| 17:08.19 | adys_ | the reality client is in python |
| 17:08.23 | adys_ | the server is entirely in lisp. |
| 17:08.30 | greppy | *snerk* |
| 17:08.34 | nevcairiel | with python i can live with |
| 17:08.36 | nevcairiel | but lisp? |
| 17:09.00 | adys_ | parentheses are the true building block of matter |
| 17:09.11 | nevcairiel | that explains alot |
| 17:09.24 | greppy | wishes Blizzard used perl instead of lua, oh well. |
| 17:09.35 | adys_ | .. |
| 17:09.41 | adys_ | blam blam, you're dead |
| 17:09.43 | nevcairiel | that would certainly remove all the bad devs again |
| 17:10.39 | nevcairiel | today some guy came into the office and asked if someone knew perl, because some customer wants to customize his bugzilla .. |
| 17:10.39 | adys_ | the only issues i have with lua i can live with |
| 17:10.45 | adys_ | UGH |
| 17:10.53 | adys_ | bugzilla is one of these pieces of shit lying around today |
| 17:11.00 | adys_ | because nobody's gotten around to do something better |
| 17:11.03 | nevcairiel | we declined :p |
| 17:11.15 | greppy | heh |
| 17:11.19 | nevcairiel | we use mantis for our own tracker, its not too bad |
| 17:11.33 | adys_ | "not too bad" doesn't cut it |
| 17:11.42 | adys_ | bugzilla, heavily customized and all is also "not too bad" |
| 17:11.52 | greppy | just take a line from mutt "all trackers suck, this one just sucks less" |
| 17:12.00 | nevcairiel | but php i can customize, perl i can not! :) |
| 17:12.33 | farmbuyer | I remember a joke that the old space defense platform code was supposed to be written in lisp. A guy claimed he'd broke in and stole the code, and as proof he posted the last 10 lines of the source. It was a 10 line by 80 column block of close-parens. |
| 17:12.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:12.51 | alestane | Yeah, that sounds like lisp. |
| 17:13.25 | nevcairiel | I never used it myself, but i attended a seminar about OO concepts in lisp once .. thats about all i know about it, hehe |
| 17:14.21 | Computerpunk | lots of insipid and stupid parantheses |
| 17:14.51 | farmbuyer | argh, I could rant about lisp users. Imma queue for a random instead. :-p |
| 17:15.54 | nevcairiel | meh, i'm still not decided what linux distro to use :P |
| 17:16.29 | durcyn | be a man, run slackware |
| 17:16.30 | greppy | nevcairiel: how much drive space do you have? carve up a couple partitions and multiboot until one doesn't piss you off. |
| 17:17.02 | nevcairiel | I have a 40gb partition on my ssd free, i could plug in some old drive for testing though |
| 17:17.18 | nevcairiel | but thats meh :) |
| 17:17.33 | nevcairiel | I would probably go back to gentoo because it doesnt work out in the first few hours :p |
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| 17:18.27 | greppy | used gentoo for a while... even played EQ and then WoW on gentoo. didn't like all the recompiling. |
| 17:18.39 | nevcairiel | gotta use my i7 for something! |
| 17:18.47 | greppy | heh |
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| 17:21.59 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 17:22.11 | nevcairiel | i like the concept of controlling exactly what features i get in a piece of software, and not some binary blob precompiled with some maintainers preferences |
| 17:24.01 | Malediction | http://funroll-loops.info/ |
| 17:24.06 | Malediction | (Sorry, had to be done) |
| 17:24.08 | Malediction | :D |
| 17:24.16 | greppy | nevcairiel: I understand that reasoning, I just can't justify the time/effort to deal with it. :) |
| 17:24.17 | Shadowed | ZorbaBeta you there |
| 17:25.13 | Angayelle | oh btw shadowed, i miss your speedy actions addon now that it conflict with bt4 |
| 17:25.45 | nevcairiel | Malediction: you're only a ricer if you brag about your system. If you have an ordinary looking car, which runs just smoothly, and packs a serious punch, yet is highly customized on the inside, who cares :D |
| 17:26.18 | Fisker | indeed you don't haste |
| 17:26.22 | Malediction | :) |
| 17:27.20 | durcyn | nevcairiel: exactly, i use gentoo because i like sane depdendency management, CFLAGS can fuck right off. |
| 17:27.41 | durcyn | or, dependency, if you like spelling sort of things |
| 17:28.01 | nevcairiel | i dont touch cflags, i usually set them to -march=native -O2 and be done with it |
| 17:28.34 | nevcairiel | sure, the resulting binaries might be optimized for my system, rather then a generic i686 compile, but shrug |
| 17:28.43 | Fisker | so anyone want my gtx 480? |
| 17:29.09 | nevcairiel | Fisker: why would we want a crappy 480 now that the 580 is out? |
| 17:29.45 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:30.06 | nevcairiel | Also, all i play is WoW, i rather need a faster CPU |
| 17:30.14 | nevcairiel | but there isnt much to upgrade thats an actual speed boost |
| 17:30.15 | zenzelezz | some of us don't upgrade that often |
| 17:30.17 | durcyn | oh, did the 580 finally hit the street? |
| 17:30.26 | Fisker | more expensive than i had thought though |
| 17:30.28 | nevcairiel | durcyn: shops around here its in stock |
| 17:30.28 | zenzelezz | I'm still on GT...X? 275 |
| 17:30.43 | nevcairiel | *claim its in stock.. |
| 17:30.48 | nevcairiel | whats with me forgetting words all the time |
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| 17:31.29 | Fisker | here it'll be in stock next week |
| 17:31.32 | Fisker | atleast on the site i saw |
| 17:32.18 | Ackis | I had my xbox configured to use 1080i, but when I changed it and selected optimal it jumped down to 720p, only thing I know about those is that they're the resolution, so will I be able to notice a difference between the two even? |
| 17:32.18 | nevcairiel | same TDP, however like 1000% better cooler, and higher efficiency due to about 20% more performance in average |
| 17:32.25 | Fisker | vial of the sands is bullshit |
| 17:32.57 | nevcairiel | Ackis: 1080i is interlaced, which might or might not look sub-par on a LCD based TV |
| 17:33.06 | nevcairiel | 720p will always look good |
| 17:33.17 | durcyn | nevcairiel: my favorite part so far is the review i just found where the ATI 5970 beats it only in the crysis test, makes me wonder who writes their drivers |
| 17:33.19 | nevcairiel | Also, you really need a big tv and sit rather close to see the difference |
| 17:33.20 | Ackis | I'm on a 54" plasma nevcairiel |
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| 17:33.31 | Fisker | you should get down from there |
| 17:33.32 | Xinhuan | lol more wow scam emails in my inbox |
| 17:33.35 | Fisker | you might ruin it |
| 17:33.41 | Xinhuan | You can log in to Account Management at the following link to review your account settings: |
| 17:33.41 | Xinhuan | http://us.battle.net.support.account-password.net/login.html?ref=https%3A%2F%2Fus.battle.net%2Faccount%2Fmanagement%2Findex.xml |
| 17:33.46 | Xinhuan | yeah i'm going to believe that link |
| 17:33.46 | nevcairiel | durcyn: ATI could never write drivers |
| 17:34.14 | durcyn | nevcairiel: one of the guys i went to school with actually worked for ATI doing drivers a few years ago. he's why i'll never buy another card from them =P |
| 17:34.14 | Fisker | they were ok back in the nvidia geforce 5000 series days |
| 17:34.16 | nevcairiel | but yeah, a single GPU beating ATIs previous dual-gpu monster is kinda impressive |
| 17:34.17 | Legorol | Xinhuan: but, but, it's got battle.net, support, password, acocunt, all in the same URL |
| 17:34.21 | Legorol | must be very very secure |
| 17:34.25 | Fisker | or nvidia was just THAT far behind with that release |
| 17:34.47 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt buy a 580 yet, though |
| 17:34.48 | DarthAndroid_ | nevcairiel: which single gpu? |
| 17:35.03 | nevcairiel | If you can wait a few weeks, wait until ATI releases the 69xx series |
| 17:35.08 | nevcairiel | If anything, it'll lower the price |
| 17:35.20 | Fisker | i'll probably be contempt with 480 for now |
| 17:35.22 | nevcairiel | DarthAndroid_: the 580 |
| 17:35.30 | Fisker | But the new sandy bridge sounds so awesome |
| 17:35.31 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:35.35 | nicoli_s | i need to get a new graphics card |
| 17:35.44 | Fisker | £170 for a 3,4GHz quad core |
| 17:35.45 | Fisker | waaaaaaant |
| 17:35.50 | nevcairiel | I really dont want a new quad core |
| 17:35.54 | nevcairiel | but what can you do |
| 17:36.02 | nicoli_s | octo core is where its at |
| 17:36.06 | DarthAndroid_ | oh what 580?! I'm behind the times it seems, brb! |
| 17:36.18 | nevcairiel | DarthAndroid_: benchmarks just appeared today or so |
| 17:36.19 | Legorol | I'd been running into a little problem with PayPal that I noticed recently: when someone clicks on your Donate button (for example on WoWI), they are able to see your primary paypal email address |
| 17:36.26 | Legorol | that's usually a private address for many people |
| 17:36.41 | nicoli_s | um, but isnt that how paypal normally works via email? |
| 17:36.43 | Legorol | That's a little wrong, and seems like not much you can do about it |
| 17:36.43 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: but the octo core is still nearly a year away |
| 17:36.50 | Fisker | nicoli_s those won't be out for another year or so |
| 17:37.02 | nicoli_s | i know im just being silly |
| 17:37.03 | Xinhuan | Legorol, you can tie more than 1 email address to your paypal account |
| 17:37.07 | greppy | Legorol: that is why I have an email address that is only used for paypal... (and one that is only used for blizzard, etc) |
| 17:37.14 | Shadowed | I've tied like 50 |
| 17:37.15 | Legorol | Xinhuan: yah i know, and set a non-private one as the primary, which is what i did |
| 17:37.18 | Xinhuan | and your paypal donate link can be made to pay to your second email address |
| 17:37.35 | Fisker | that's what she said nicoli_s |
| 17:37.43 | Shadowed | are you using one of the premade donate buttons paypal uses Legorol? |
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| 17:37.49 | Shadowed | might not have updated that email |
| 17:38.03 | Legorol | What I was commenting on is that despite there being an option to secure your Donation button, your email will be revealed/is harvestable, which is not an obvious thing |
| 17:38.20 | Xinhuan | does it really bother you that much? |
| 17:38.27 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 17:38.34 | foxlit | "YOU'VE WON MILLIONS FROM PAYPAL" |
| 17:38.37 | Legorol | Xinhuan: for me it did, but as I said i found a solution |
| 17:38.44 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i always win the british lottery |
| 17:38.48 | Legorol | I am merely commenting on it here to draw attention in case someone didn't know |
| 17:38.54 | Xinhuan | cos i can deal with 200 spam emails everyday, takes like 20 secs at most to ignore them |
| 17:39.03 | Legorol | I'd been running around checking a few donation buttons on wowi and for quite a few authors it results in what appears to be a private address (with real name discernible) |
| 17:39.05 | Fisker | brr brrr |
| 17:39.17 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 17:39.18 | foxlit | I find it idiotic that paypal is allowing email addresses to be harvested from their own pages. |
| 17:39.19 | Fisker | you here? |
| 17:39.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, I'm cold here. |
| 17:39.38 | Fisker | BRRR BRRR |
| 17:39.46 | Legorol | indeed, what foxlit says, it's also a security concern. |
| 17:39.58 | nevcairiel | its probably mentioned somewhere |
| 17:40.09 | Legorol | if a bank made any kind of username/info that you use to log in and access your money even partially visible, there'd be hell to pay |
| 17:40.53 | Xinhuan | can't exactly compare paypal to a bank |
| 17:41.03 | Legorol | i'm afraid you can, increasingly so |
| 17:41.16 | Legorol | it's regulated as a financial institution (at least in EU countries), identical to a bank |
| 17:41.21 | Legorol | and you can have quite substantial sums there |
| 17:41.31 | Legorol | a paypal account has to be just as secure as a bank account |
| 17:42.12 | Legorol | but security issues aside, there's also a convenience issue: when i set my (public) email address as the primary on paypal so that's the one that's shown on the donation page, |
| 17:42.12 | Fisker | brr brr |
| 17:42.26 | adys_ | hahaha. |
| 17:42.28 | adys_ | http://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/new-htc-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/ |
| 17:42.29 | Legorol | a result of that is that when i use my paypal account to *buy* stuff, it also ends up using that |
| 17:42.57 | Legorol | there was even one case that was worse, the merchant got to see *both* my email addresses when I bought something using paypal |
| 17:43.19 | Legorol | my order appeared to come to them from one address, and the confirmation was mailed to the other |
| 17:43.23 | Legorol | that's just wrong |
| 17:44.24 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: that's a factor of PayPal UK |
| 17:44.27 | jnwhiteh | its not like that in the US |
| 17:44.36 | jnwhiteh | you get a secure ID that does not reveal your email address |
| 17:44.44 | Legorol | are you talking about donate buttons? |
| 17:44.49 | jnwhiteh | yes, I am |
| 17:44.53 | Legorol | sure it does reveal it |
| 17:44.59 | Legorol | the secure ID only protects the button itself |
| 17:45.08 | Legorol | once someone clicks on the button, the email is right there |
| 17:45.22 | jnwhiteh | ah, fair enough =) |
| 17:45.28 | jnwhiteh | my mistake |
| 17:46.08 | Xinhuan | then you're just going to have to make a second paypal account |
| 17:46.11 | Xinhuan | solely for donations |
| 17:46.28 | syrae | Fisker: did someone stick you in a freezer or something? |
| 17:46.31 | Legorol | indeed, if i was that bothered by it.. and put up with shuffling money back and forth |
| 17:46.42 | farmbuyer | oh goddammit |
| 17:46.45 | Legorol | i'm not bothered about it to that extent, using a purpose-made address suffices |
| 17:47.20 | Legorol | there's another little interesting thing: when someone donates to you using their paypal, you get to harvest their real name and address.. how nice |
| 17:47.23 | farmbuyer | I thought I was on a flight path, turns out I had just clicked off into the distance and then alt-tabbed out and forgot about it. I've flown across the length of Outland without meaning to. |
| 17:48.24 | syrae | farmbuyer: at least you didn't spend any money doing it |
| 17:48.43 | nevcairiel | Legorol: you also get that when someone wires you money over a bank, when you want to compare |
| 17:48.48 | farmbuyer | yay for accidental discovery xp, I guess :-\ |
| 17:48.59 | Legorol | nevcairiel: true |
| 17:49.01 | nevcairiel | well, not the address |
| 17:49.03 | nevcairiel | but the name |
| 17:49.07 | Legorol | well yah |
| 17:49.37 | Legorol | that one is not so much of an issue, but it's rather not obvious (and can be unexpected imo) that you donate to someone, which doesn't require an address, and yet off your personal info goes to them |
| 17:51.05 | Lopeppeppy | You can have my ice and snow, Fisker-dear. |
| 17:52.23 | Fisker | no syrae |
| 17:52.24 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: my mechanical gnome bot says you're in New York. *bbbbrrrrr* indeed |
| 17:52.26 | Fisker | it's just brrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 17:52.43 | Fisker | well adys_ |
| 17:52.51 | Fisker | atleast i don't need a soldering iron to upgrade it |
| 17:52.52 | Fisker | :D |
| 17:53.01 | Nechckn | But she has kitties to keep her snuggly warm, syrae |
| 17:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, we got an inch of sleety slushy craptastic ungoodness yesterday, syrae. EEEEEeevil. |
| 17:53.13 | syrae | Nechckn: as do I! |
| 17:53.23 | Lopeppeppy | True, Nechckn, my Rosiekins Frankencat sat upon me a lot yesterday, because her paws were cold. |
| 17:53.25 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: oh yeah. That is crappy |
| 17:53.37 | syrae | the sleepy snow |
| 17:53.40 | syrae | not the snuggly cat |
| 17:53.43 | syrae | er |
| 17:53.59 | syrae | I think that was a Freudian slip. s/sleepy/sleety |
| 17:54.06 | syrae | yeesh |
| 17:54.14 | Lopeppeppy | I don't mind snow. I don't mind rain. I despise freezing rain sleety crappy stuff. |
| 17:54.30 | zenzelezz | ^ |
| 17:54.36 | Nechckn | snow is okay, since you can actually go out in it |
| 17:54.48 | syrae | I don't mind some snow... not that we ever get it here. I love rain.... not that we get any more than drizzle here most of the time. |
| 17:54.50 | Nechckn | rain and sleet just sort of make everything yucky and wet. |
| 17:54.57 | syrae | Obviously I need to move to Washington or something |
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| 17:58.15 | MoonWitch | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 17:58.23 | jnwhiteh | pong |
| 17:58.41 | MoonWitch | did you by any chance set up a vpn between your machines and your droid? |
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| 17:59.09 | Lunessa | station! |
| 17:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa-dear. |
| 17:59.25 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:59.48 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. How's tricks down south? |
| 18:00.08 | Lunessa | Is this where I get to say "Ho' betta have mah money!" |
| 18:00.14 | Lunessa | ? |
| 18:00.16 | Ackis | Lunessa does tricks down in the south? |
| 18:01.50 | jnwhiteh | MoonWitch: no vpn, no |
| 18:01.53 | jnwhiteh | just wifi |
| 18:02.36 | Ackis | where's cide? |
| 18:02.41 | MoonWitch | i just wondered |
| 18:02.46 | Lopeppeppy | I do tricks up north. See my stack of quarters? |
| 18:02.58 | MoonWitch | considering finding a way to access my desktop somehow |
| 18:03.05 | MoonWitch | figured vpn might be easiest |
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| 18:04.27 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I thought of a book series to recommend to you. Temeraire series starting with "His Majesty's Dragon" http://www.temeraire.org/ |
| 18:05.08 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 18:05.11 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: You want to reach your home desktop remotely? |
| 18:05.12 | Fisker | i got an offer you can't refuse |
| 18:05.20 | jnwhiteh | you wouldn't start with Temeraire? |
| 18:05.34 | jnwhiteh | that seems to be the first book |
| 18:05.37 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, no. |
| 18:05.59 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: His Majesty's Dragon is actually the first. |
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| 18:06.11 | Lunessa | I think you'll rather like them. |
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| 18:06.16 | jnwhiteh | its not called that in the UK |
| 18:06.21 | jnwhiteh | its callehttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Temeraire-1/dp/B002RI9DD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=A3TVV12T0I6NSM&qid=1289325960&sr=1-1 |
| 18:06.25 | jnwhiteh | that's aka His Majesty's Dragon |
| 18:06.32 | jnwhiteh | correct? |
| 18:06.46 | Fisker | i do Lopeppeppy |
| 18:06.49 | Lunessa | Apparently. |
| 18:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, you're married! |
| 18:07.00 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: yep :) |
| 18:07.37 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/terrible-singer-gets-mad-at-autotune-1947526 |
| 18:08.36 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: If your home machine is running Windows XP, VIsta or 7, you can use Remote Desktop to do it. |
| 18:09.00 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I've read the first 4. They're excellent. |
| 18:11.04 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:12.06 | Lunessa | Well then. :P |
| 18:14.35 | Fisker | picks jnwhiteh's nose |
| 18:17.15 | Elkano | "You found some rare crafting material." |
| 18:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | Eeeew! |
| 18:19.56 | syrae | wait, Minecraft takes place in jnwhiteh's nose? |
| 18:20.37 | Lopeppeppy | On Tuesdays it does? |
| 18:21.48 | industrial | Does Curse have an IRC channel? |
| 18:22.06 | Ackis | curseforge is the closest on this server |
| 18:22.55 | Shirik | What's a word for something that's of no nutritional value? |
| 18:23.14 | nicoli_s | candy? |
| 18:23.20 | Humbedooh | canada? |
| 18:23.35 | Shirik | .. |
| 18:23.39 | Shirik | not candy |
| 18:24.06 | Ackis | I feel used by industrial |
| 18:24.10 | Humbedooh | unwholesome? |
| 18:25.09 | industrial | Ackis: well I could at least try right? |
| 18:25.11 | industrial | :p |
| 18:25.23 | Humbedooh | does it make you feel cheap, Ackis? :\ |
| 18:25.49 | Ackis | I'm not cheap |
| 18:25.56 | Lopeppeppy | nutrient deficient. |
| 18:26.03 | Lopeppeppy | unhealthy |
| 18:26.05 | Lopeppeppy | yummy |
| 18:26.58 | Fisker | haste |
| 18:27.04 | Fisker | i'm gonna make you an offer you can't refuse |
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| 18:27.12 | Humbedooh | fallout nv? |
| 18:27.16 | MoonWitch | oh god, brace yerself haste |
| 18:28.47 | Fisker | he shouldn't |
| 18:28.55 | haste | oh noes |
| 18:29.21 | Fisker | buy my GTX 480 for 4500 DKK |
| 18:29.24 | Fisker | or halp |
| 18:31.48 | industrial | Fisker: 2250 |
| 18:32.05 | Fisker | 4500DKK |
| 18:32.58 | industrial | ebay disagrees |
| 18:33.28 | Humbedooh | why would anyone pay 4.5k dkk for that? |
| 18:33.41 | Humbedooh | that's liek.. 600 euro ;< |
| 18:34.05 | Fisker | yes Humbedooh |
| 18:35.05 | Shirik | what is a DKK |
| 18:35.22 | nicoli_s | donkey kong kountry? |
| 18:36.04 | Humbedooh | a dkk is a Danish Krone |
| 18:36.16 | Humbedooh | 7.45 dkk = 1 eur |
| 18:37.10 | Shirik | krone? |
| 18:37.14 | Shirik | They pay you in witches? |
| 18:37.23 | farmbuyer | those are crones |
| 18:37.31 | Humbedooh | krone = crown |
| 18:37.32 | farmbuyer | steeper depreciation rate on those |
| 18:38.46 | farmbuyer | this is starting to sound like http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/3/23/ |
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| 18:42.35 | foxlit | "Shirik: They pay you in witches?" << Interesting concept. |
| 18:44.08 | zenzelezz | not really |
| 18:44.14 | zenzelezz | people traded in slaves before |
| 18:44.21 | zenzelezz | witches wouldn't be all that different |
| 18:44.43 | industrial | IT would be a lot trickier. |
| 18:46.54 | Angayelle | how many slaves is a gtx 480 worth ? |
| 18:47.08 | Angayelle | does the slaves know lua btw ? |
| 18:47.25 | zenzelezz | slaves aren't around anymore |
| 18:47.31 | zenzelezz | we ditched that along with the IDE interface |
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| 18:57.44 | Lunessa | Shirik: The FDA uses "nonnutritive" to describe zero calorie 'foods' |
| 18:58.18 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, non-nutritive! |
| 18:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | I had a very yummy non-nutritive mojito last weekend. |
| 18:59.08 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: But highly theraputic? |
| 18:59.50 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, NYC was getting on my nerves up to that point. Afterward, no problem! |
| 19:02.56 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: But, there's an awesome Depeche Mode song... "Master and Servant"... |
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| 19:06.56 | Shirik | thanks Lunessa |
| 19:07.06 | Fisker | lets pay in bitches |
| 19:07.06 | farmbuyer | was just listening to a remix of that tune |
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| 19:07.24 | Fisker | what say you Shirik ? |
| 19:07.25 | farmbuyer | "DJ Absinthe Minded" |
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| 19:13.29 | Lopeppeppy | rocks out like Animal. Beat drums, beat drums! |
| 19:16.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:20.50 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | Baaaad mood, baaaaaad sheeple. |
| 19:22.44 | Lopeppeppy | Facilities is running a BANDSAW in my hallway. |
| 19:23.44 | Lopeppeppy | Rum is required. Who wants to drink with Peppy tonight? |
| 19:24.08 | durcyn | all i have is vodka, will that suffice? |
| 19:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | If that is your drink of choice, you are welcome to it. I will be watching pirates of the carribean and playing the Captain Jack drinking game. |
| 19:30.58 | Angayelle | alone ? |
| 19:36.18 | mikma | everytime captain jack speaks, you drink? |
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| 19:38.13 | Lopeppeppy | Every time I know what he's going to say, mikma. So, pretty close. :) |
| 19:40.15 | adys_ | Talking to some php/java/c#/asp dev right now |
| 19:40.18 | adys_ | and this is what i get |
| 19:40.19 | adys_ | (09:39:28 PM) ********: I appreciate having someone intellegant to talk to :-) |
| 19:40.54 | Lopeppeppy | is that a mangle of "intelligent" or "elegant" ? |
| 19:41.07 | adys_ | A sight hound with long, smooth hair. Thses dogs are very beautiful and although some people believe them to be stupid they are very ... |
| 19:41.17 | adys_ | Now I'm really flattered |
| 19:41.20 | Ackis | "Valkyrie created a tremendous moral conflict for German moviegoers in particular because they were forced to choose which they hated more: Nazis, or Tom Cruise." lol |
| 19:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | You're a dog, adys? I'm confused. |
| 19:41.48 | adys_ | Sure am |
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| 19:46.06 | Fisker | anyway adys_ you know shit about eee pc and if it's worth shit? |
| 19:46.15 | haste | has a eee pc. |
| 19:46.23 | Fisker | but you are a jerk haste |
| 19:46.28 | haste | lies |
| 19:46.31 | adys_ | Fisker, I have the first eee pc, i didnt buy one of the new ones |
| 19:46.34 | adys_ | but they're nice |
| 19:46.36 | Fisker | you don't want to help me OR buy my GTX 480 |
| 19:46.39 | adys_ | though |
| 19:46.44 | adys_ | I wouldnt buy one for myself |
| 19:47.03 | adys_ | its just the sort of thing i give to family members with a nice excuse to make them run linux |
| 19:47.14 | adys_ | slapping ubuntu netbook on them and they're all happy |
| 19:50.33 | industrial | My sister had trouble with OS X when I sold my macbook black to her so I had to make it run windows instead |
| 19:50.39 | industrial | doubt I can get people to run Ubuntu |
| 19:51.05 | adys_ | the kind of people who have issues with mac os x / linux tend to be people who have issues with windows too |
| 19:51.26 | industrial | but we silently agree and clean up the PC's every 6 months anyway |
| 19:51.27 | adys_ | when buying them a netbook, they overlook the fact that the ui is different to what they're used to |
| 19:51.33 | adys_ | they pick it up quickly enough |
| 19:52.50 | adys_ | night |
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| 20:00.03 | industrial | Level 46, finished Tanaris, where do I go? |
| 20:00.09 | industrial | I wanna be in Ungoro at 50 |
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| 20:01.46 | sylvanaar_work | hinterlands? |
| 20:03.21 | Lopeppeppy | Felwood? |
| 20:03.27 | sylvanaar_work | or azshara maybe |
| 20:03.43 | Lopeppeppy | Azshara... um... blasted lands? Badlands? I forget which one is that range... |
| 20:04.13 | Lopeppeppy | Around Dire Maul, that place in the jungle with the caves of gorillas... |
| 20:04.23 | Lopeppeppy | Feralas? |
| 20:04.24 | sylvanaar_work | ferelas |
| 20:04.28 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. Feralas. |
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| 20:04.48 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hinterlands http://www.wowwiki.com/Azshara http://www.wowwiki.com/Feralas |
| 20:04.50 | sylvanaar_work | your pick |
| 20:05.29 | sylvanaar_work | i loved hinterlands |
| 20:06.48 | industrial | hmm, k |
| 20:07.44 | wereHamster | sylvanaar: me too |
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| 20:09.27 | durcyn | i can't bring myself to level anything below 60 until the 4.0.3 changes drop |
| 20:09.38 | durcyn | all those delicious flight paths everywhere |
| 20:10.53 | olafski | :D |
| 20:11.06 | olafski | the only non-80 I have is a rogue so I guess I'll delete that one to make a worgen =( |
| 20:11.18 | olafski | don't really like rogue, but making another one of a class I already have seems useless |
| 20:11.52 | olafski | hm. I could delete my priest instead |
| 20:12.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm re-rolling Peppy as a priestess. :) |
| 20:13.33 | olafski | seems like a waste of the time I spent leveling tailoring and the money I spent on flying.. at least my rogue doesn't have epic flying :P |
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| 20:23.22 | Cairenn | hahahhaha |
| 20:23.23 | Cairenn | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/09/grandmas-discover-photobooth_n_781001.html?ref=fb&src=sp |
| 20:23.34 | Cairenn | you have to watch the video |
| 20:23.54 | Lopeppeppy | chat roulette. Eeew! |
| 20:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I could watch videos at work. :) |
| 20:24.49 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: send yourself the link so you can watch it tonight at home, it's a riot :) |
| 20:24.59 | Cairenn | GOOOOOO Ladies! rofl |
| 20:27.05 | industrial | Cairenn: heeheeheehee xD |
| 20:27.14 | Nobgul | Lol great video |
| 20:27.20 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 20:28.26 | Lopeppeppy | It was the one-armed man, Fisker, we know. We don't care who killed her, we just gotta bring you in and end this. |
| 20:28.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | True story. |
| 20:29.13 | industrial | I bet it was the purple shirted eye stabber |
| 20:29.25 | zenzelezz | the one-armed, one-eyed, one-legged man? |
| 20:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | Flying purple people eater. |
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| 20:33.22 | Nobgul | You sure it wasn't " The Red Shirt Guy" |
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| 20:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I haven't tazered a red shirt guy in at least a week. |
| 20:35.02 | Maldivia | adys ? |
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| 20:38.07 | Fisker | you gotta be fucking kidding me |
| 20:38.20 | olafski | hm I thought felguards had increased threat generation like voidwalkers :/ |
| 20:38.22 | Fisker | swede jerks |
| 20:38.22 | Lopeppeppy | Mrp? |
| 20:38.24 | Fisker | err |
| 20:38.27 | Fisker | microsoft jerks |
| 20:38.33 | Fisker | (but also swede jerks) |
| 20:39.32 | Nobgul | Lopeppeppy: LOL, that guy is either a local hero, or he is in hiding. I would be interested to find out which one. |
| 20:39.54 | Nobgul | olafski: I reckon they do, atleast mine seems to be doing well. |
| 20:40.17 | olafski | hm my felguard lost aggro nearly instantly when I tried to solo Ragemane |
| 20:40.23 | olafski | voidwalker had no trouble |
| 20:40.32 | olafski | well I couldn't go all out but at least I could keep the dots up :P |
| 20:41.05 | Nobgul | Weird. |
| 20:41.10 | Lopeppeppy | who what hiding huh? |
| 20:41.23 | Fisker | what should i do Lopeppeppy ? |
| 20:41.25 | zenzelezz | "British health officials are hard at work on a new app that will allow users to pee into their cell phones and find out within minutes if they have an STD." |
| 20:41.31 | Nobgul | Lopeppeppy: The red shirt guy from blizcon. |
| 20:42.05 | Nobgul | zenzelezz: I read something about as prego test like that, as well as a in cell breathalizer for the drinking public. |
| 20:42.20 | olafski | haha |
| 20:42.21 | olafski | sounds useful! |
| 20:42.23 | zenzelezz | it makes perfect sense |
| 20:42.23 | Nobgul | Personally i won't be peeing in my cellphone anytime soon. |
| 20:42.32 | zenzelezz | why WOULDN'T you want to pee on your phone? |
| 20:42.50 | Nobgul | lol. I offered to pee in a cops hand last month. |
| 20:43.00 | Nobgul | Well it was a court officer =X |
| 20:43.43 | Nobgul | I am almost but sure he didn't find it as amusing as i did at the time. |
| 20:44.46 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, turn yourself in to the authorities. If you're not guilty, you have nothing to hide. |
| 20:44.50 | zenzelezz | can't say I see what's amusing about it either |
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| 20:44.58 | Lopeppeppy | Nobul, I didn't go to Blizcon, I do not know about red shirt blizcon peoples. |
| 20:45.11 | cbreak | they didn't survive anyway |
| 20:45.14 | Nobgul | zenzelezz : I found it funny at the time. Later not su much. |
| 20:45.15 | cbreak | so no need to remember them |
| 20:45.25 | Nobgul | Lopeppeppy: 0_O |
| 20:45.26 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=red+shirt+guy&aq=f |
| 20:45.45 | Nobgul | lol i was gonna shameless link to my website QQ |
| 20:46.22 | Nobgul | I still will!. My video is clearer anyway =P http://isoverninethousand.info/index.php?itemid=105 |
| 20:46.32 | Corey | whats the best addon for auctions? |
| 20:46.46 | Nobgul | to do what? |
| 20:46.59 | Shirik | hm |
| 20:47.03 | Corey | sell my crap so its not taking up room lol |
| 20:47.16 | Shirik | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/11/mystery-missile-launch-los-angeles-no-threat-national-security.html |
| 20:47.17 | Maldivia | the auction house works wonderful for that |
| 20:47.36 | Corey | really? i should have asked about an auction house addon then |
| 20:47.37 | Nobgul | Mouse pointer and your keyboard? Wasn't under the assumption you needed a addon to do it. |
| 20:47.38 | Corey | oh |
| 20:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, duck. Unless you're responsible? |
| 20:48.16 | zenzelezz | Corey: try telling us what functionality you want that the default auction house UI doesn't have |
| 20:48.24 | Jamash | I certainly need an AH addon to use the AH |
| 20:48.27 | Jamash | the default AH sucks |
| 20:48.37 | Nobgul | Now if you asked what is the best addon for tracking trends in the economy and setting prices for items based upon the auctions on your realm. Then you may have gotten a quick answer. TLDR : Auctioneer |
| 20:48.40 | Corey | speed, i don't want to manually click and sell through 4 bank tabs worth of stuff |
| 20:50.00 | Nechckn | Shirik Military and aviation officials said Tuesday they don't know who may have launched a mysterious object spotted in the sky late Monday off the Southern California coast, but noted that whatever the projectile was, it did not pose a threat to national security. is the best part |
| 20:50.27 | Nechckn | "No, we have no idea what it was, or who did it, but we can assure you that it is totally fine.... honest." |
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| 20:54.03 | Shirik | Nechckn: I know :) |
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| 20:54.17 | Shirik | Also, I'm eating chinese food right now, and on the side of thebox it says "Thank you for choosing a business" |
| 20:54.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:54.46 | Nechckn | Instead of making it at home, of course... silly. |
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| 20:55.43 | Nechckn | ceases trying to spin english failure into something worth printing. |
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| 21:05.45 | Ackis | halp |
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| 21:05.57 | Ackis | what do you get a woman (your boss) for her 50th birthday? |
| 21:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | A gift certificate to a bookstore. |
| 21:06.46 | Cide | a "home sick" call? |
| 21:07.29 | Nechckn | Come on... Oil of Olay! |
| 21:07.45 | Nechckn | She will likely get more use outta that than a book. =) |
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| 21:16.26 | Lopeppeppy | Stupid dakeeni! I stole the baby while you were taking a wee-wee! /glee |
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| 21:16.59 | nicoli_s | Ackis:sex toy |
| 21:17.26 | nicoli_s | which speaking of sex toys, my meth head neighbors moved out, and all their shit got thrown out on their lawn and there is a big dildo on the top of their dresser |
| 21:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | Don't approach it, nicoli_s, it may bite. |
| 21:17.58 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: he's already using it |
| 21:19.13 | Lopeppeppy | nicoli_s, you should never use another person's prescription medical devices, you know. |
| 21:19.29 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:19.42 | nicoli_s | im so glad they are gone, they fucked their house up so bad |
| 21:19.58 | Lopeppeppy | No doubt using that prescription medical device... /innocent |
| 21:20.03 | nicoli_s | theres a human sized hole in one of the walls, and huge holes in the carpet and floor, i think they were making meth |
| 21:23.28 | syrae | I just realized... |
| 21:23.35 | syrae | we don't have any giant ants in WoW |
| 21:23.39 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. |
| 21:23.50 | Lopeppeppy | You sure there aren't any in An-Quiraj or suchlike? |
| 21:23.58 | syrae | pretty sure |
| 21:24.08 | Lopeppeppy | They have big everything else... |
| 21:24.15 | syrae | they're mostly beetles and spiders |
| 21:24.20 | Lopeppeppy | Wait, what are the insects in the dewdrop area of Tanaris? |
| 21:24.41 | Lopeppeppy | There's something down there where the turtle-quest-NPC hangs out. But I forget what. |
| 21:24.43 | syrae | well, Beetles, spiders and wasps |
| 21:24.50 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy is a good person |
| 21:24.58 | syrae | Lopeppeppy: they're bog elementals |
| 21:25.01 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack Fisker |
| 21:25.01 | purl | :), Lopeppeppy |
| 21:25.10 | nicoli_s | oh god, someone has moved the dildo in my neighbors front yard |
| 21:25.16 | Lopeppeppy | You're right, syrae. Unformed elemental critters.... |
| 21:25.29 | Fisker | are you calling me a bot Lopeppeppy ? |
| 21:25.33 | syrae | We also don't have giant rats except as pets. :P |
| 21:25.46 | Lopeppeppy | I was hoping Purl would share a snack, but she's greedy. |
| 21:26.13 | syrae | but yeah... I can't think of any ant models anywhere in WoW |
| 21:26.19 | Lunessa | *sigh* This card costs almost as much as the rest of my computer combined. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372322,00.asp |
| 21:26.26 | durcyn | ~literal botsnack |
| 21:26.26 | purl | durcyn: :) |
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| 21:26.33 | durcyn | gah. |
| 21:26.50 | Lopeppeppy | Hefty power supply too, Lunessa. |
| 21:27.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: To use that card, I'd have to replace my 500W powersupply. |
| 21:27.24 | Fisker | sounds like your computer sucks then Lunessa |
| 21:27.44 | Lunessa | Fisker: It also blows, and occasionally fellates. |
| 21:27.49 | Fisker | ^ |
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| 21:27.58 | Fisker | Why would you replace your 500W powersupply? |
| 21:28.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, mine has a 450W, I believe... |
| 21:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy, 600 watt minimum? Frell on toast. |
| 21:28.38 | Lunessa | Fisker: If I want to use a new, top-of the line, nVidia card, it requires a 600W or better PS. |
| 21:28.40 | Fisker | 600w? |
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| 21:28.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yikes! |
| 21:28.58 | Fisker | That's probably more of a connecter related issue than anything else |
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| 21:29.53 | Fisker | Especially given that some of the better vendors have completely insane OCP's |
| 21:29.53 | durcyn | the card's rated at 250w or so, how many pcie supplemental power connectors does it have? |
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| 21:33.27 | Lunessa | durcyn: I'm just going by the article. |
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| 21:34.30 | Lunessa | However, I seriously doubt I'd get much more WoW performance. |
| 21:34.55 | Fisker | gpu is barely working in WoW, so yeah |
| 21:35.12 | Fisker | CPU, Memory and HDD(i.e. SSD) seem to be the way to go |
| 21:35.37 | Fisker | anyway i think the article is just compensating for weird setups |
| 21:36.03 | Fisker | The numbers i've seen is 450W with a Core i7 920 OC'd to 3,33GHz |
| 21:37.39 | Lunessa | I'm seriously considering an SSD and another 4gigs of RAM really. My machine doesn't suck. |
| 21:38.34 | Fisker | i might just get a sandy bridge because of the insane prices |
| 21:38.38 | industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1e2e8f8ae34d954c25f2bb7d3d8b0348.jpg |
| 21:38.41 | industrial | I shall call this one |
| 21:38.43 | Fisker | £170 for a 3,4GHz Quadcore |
| 21:38.46 | industrial | LOLOLOLOLROUGE |
| 21:39.01 | durcyn | the hilarious colour red? |
| 21:39.36 | industrial | I was demotivating them up to the point where toey just stayed inside the spawn |
| 21:39.45 | industrial | then we killed them there |
| 21:39.47 | industrial | :p |
| 21:42.21 | Lunessa | I'm thinking a 120gig SSD for Windows and WoW, and then everything else can live on the SATA HDD. |
| 21:44.31 | industrial | your windows install is 90gig ? |
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| 21:46.33 | Cide | wtf |
| 21:46.40 | Cide | you have an addon to mark you as busy every time you enter combat? |
| 21:46.42 | Cide | that's retarded |
| 21:47.09 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:47.14 | Ackis | marks cide busy |
| 21:47.49 | industrial | I did that for PVE encounters but I just usually don't care :P |
| 21:48.06 | industrial | also, I'm busy when in combat. |
| 21:48.12 | Cide | uh huh |
| 21:48.19 | Cide | so busy when questing in stv |
| 21:48.39 | Cide | don't want to be whispered in that case! |
| 21:49.40 | Ackis | raptr has over 85k hours tracked for the new CoD game |
| 21:49.51 | Ackis | it's been our for less than a day |
| 21:50.04 | Cide | he's on speed |
| 21:50.38 | industrial | has seen couples fight over who got home first and got to level first to get better weapons and crap to kick the others' ass |
| 21:50.42 | industrial | on this particular game |
| 21:50.44 | industrial | xD |
| 21:51.14 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJ7eueZ1wY |
| 21:51.18 | Xinhuan | ok this is quite LOL |
| 21:51.23 | Xinhuan | Red Shirt Guy remix |
| 21:51.43 | Xinhuan | quite well done |
| 21:52.39 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 21:52.44 | Ackis | http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/09/sendible-facebook-hack/ |
| 21:53.14 | industrial | damnit, why do so many FPS games just not look at whatever keyboard settings you havE? I swap ctrl and caps on mine and lots of times my capslock behaves as ctrl which is duck in most games :| annoying |
| 21:53.30 | Ackis | red shirt guy is decent to talk to, and his guild is full of Ackis fanbois/girls |
| 21:54.41 | mitchnull | is there an easy way of checking if a given texture (file) exists or not? |
| 21:55.14 | Kraftman | mitchnull: i was trying yesterday, the only way i found was to try setting it, then getting it |
| 21:55.21 | Ackis | that's impressive Xinhuan |
| 21:55.32 | nicoli_s | goddamn i hate it when they do road work outside my house |
| 21:55.40 | nicoli_s | my whole house is shaking |
| 21:55.44 | Xinhuan | i was like |
| 21:55.46 | mitchnull | kraftman: meh, too messy ;) thanks anyway |
| 21:55.49 | Xinhuan | how the fuck do you remix something like that |
| 21:55.50 | Kraftman | SetTexture() used to return false if it didnt work but it doesnt seem to anymore |
| 21:55.56 | Xinhuan | then i was awed |
| 21:59.35 | Lunessa | industrial: My windows install is pretty small, but I have three WoW Installs. |
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| 22:03.00 | Ackis | dial-in-authentiactor interesting |
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| 22:06.36 | Ackis | http://bit.ly/aJaKZy |
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| 22:09.46 | Kraps | is it possible to do digital renting? http://www.gamefly.com/ |
| 22:10.05 | Kraps | why hasn't anyone does that? |
| 22:12.49 | Nobgul | Kraps: You mean like Rent Wow? |
| 22:12.52 | Arrowmaster | because it would require something like steam |
| 22:13.14 | Kraps | Nobgul: you're complicating things :p |
| 22:13.22 | Nobgul | Yea that's what I am thinking. Some way to "Register" the game. Other then serial numbers. |
| 22:13.28 | Kraps | just any game |
| 22:13.30 | Nobgul | Kraps: It's my nature |
| 22:13.56 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: and? |
| 22:13.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah also games that use serial numbers wouldnt be possible |
| 22:14.11 | Arrowmaster | some games on steam use serial numbers but you never see it |
| 22:14.17 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster: Sure they would. |
| 22:14.27 | Arrowmaster | if you could rent them they would need a serial number for every rental |
| 22:14.45 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster: Yea and blizzard generates Time card numbers. |
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| 22:15.40 | Arrowmaster | im just saying that unless the game is designed for it from the start, some online download services would have issues with trying to allow rentals for it |
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| 22:16.19 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: so how are physical rentals different? |
| 22:16.47 | Arrowmaster | because you can only physically rent console games |
| 22:16.49 | Arrowmaster | not pc games |
| 22:17.17 | Kraps | oh yeah? |
| 22:17.20 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:17.35 | Arrowmaster | for the same reason nobody excepts pc games for trade ins |
| 22:17.45 | Arrowmaster | DRM |
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| 22:18.12 | Kraps | huh i didnt notice |
| 22:19.00 | Kraps | i see it now |
| 22:20.29 | Fisker | i'm sick Kraps |
| 22:20.37 | Kraps | WHAAAAAT http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27607270963&sid=1&pageNo=17 |
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| 22:21.21 | Nobgul | Which one? |
| 22:21.31 | Kraps | ALL OF THEM |
| 22:21.47 | Nobgul | ? |
| 22:21.57 | Nobgul | Old news =( |
| 22:22.17 | Kraps | ... |
| 22:22.40 | ZorbaBeta | shadowed, am now |
| 22:22.47 | Kraps | YOUR NAME IS NOT POSTED |
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| 22:23.21 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:23.33 | Shirik | I'm totally confused |
| 22:23.36 | Kraps | help me Fisker |
| 22:23.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:24.00 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 22:24.14 | Shirik | k |
| 22:24.20 | Kraps | why are the saying their names are posted? |
| 22:24.56 | Nobgul | When they released the Real Id Crap Blizzard had posted that the forums were gonna change to real names. Then they said NVM we wont do it now |
| 22:25.16 | Nobgul | I assume the real name thing went the way of the tree form. |
| 22:25.37 | Kraps | so why are people complaining about it NOW? |
| 22:26.12 | Kraps | there are no real names posted |
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| 22:26.41 | Nobgul | I do like the one comment about: World Of Facebook |
| 22:26.45 | Nobgul | Made me chuckle |
| 22:26.56 | Xyphoid | well, aren't people saying they log into these new forums and see their real name |
| 22:26.56 | Nobgul | [The Wowhead Blog] Battle.net Dial-In Authenticator - http://www.wowhead.com/blog=173490 |
| 22:26.58 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:27.10 | Xyphoid | it's actually trying out this new forum or whatever |
| 22:28.07 | Amarande | beta folks: does 4.0.3 fix the hellfire bug? |
| 22:28.13 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: sounds like it has to do with the new community site preview |
| 22:28.14 | Kraps | Xyphoid: but only YOU can see it |
| 22:28.20 | Nobgul | which one the demon form stacking thing? |
| 22:28.30 | Amarande | Nobgul: the Hellfire Citadel quest bug |
| 22:28.37 | Amarande | the one that causes the quest log to go batshit when you accept a quest for there |
| 22:28.39 | Fisker | no such bug exist Amarande |
| 22:28.45 | Amarande | Fisker: yeah, it does |
| 22:28.49 | Nobgul | good luck my Alchmey is fubar for a month now. |
| 22:28.57 | Amarande | apparently there's something buggered up with the category header for hellfire citadel |
| 22:28.58 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:29.08 | Amarande | so it makes quest trackers crash and burn due to an unexpected nil value |
| 22:29.09 | Fisker | what's category header to do with hellfire? |
| 22:29.15 | Amarande | and the blizzard quest log shows an empty header |
| 22:29.34 | Amarande | Fisker: when you accept a quest for Hellfire Citadel, if you're using any quest addons at all, the tracker goes batshit and won't fix until you either turn them in or abandon them |
| 22:29.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 22:29.44 | Amarande | what's worse, with some addons active (especially monkeyquest) you CAN'T abandon them |
| 22:29.48 | Amarande | it'll dump the last quest on your list instead |
| 22:29.48 | Fisker | i thought you meant hellfire the spell |
| 22:30.06 | Nobgul | Fisker: Me also lol cause there isa bug with that as well |
| 22:30.32 | Amarande | anyway, anyone know if 4.0.3 fixes the category header for hellfire cit? |
| 22:30.40 | Amarande | I *thought* I avoided it. |
| 22:30.59 | Amarande | Then there I was in Shattrath doing the Kara key chain, I'm 70 and I figure "hey, let's pick this quest up meanwhile, too!" (old 70 daily dungeon quest) |
| 22:31.07 | Amarande | them I'm ... CRAP. I JUST ACCEPTED A QUEST FOR HELLFIRE CITADEL. |
| 22:31.22 | Amarande | so now here I am sitting in an ages long queue for shattered halls, heh |
| 22:31.36 | Fisker | i know Nobgul |
| 22:31.42 | Fisker | but there isn't |
| 22:32.07 | Amarande | yay queue popped |
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| 22:32.56 | Amarande | YAY! |
| 22:33.02 | Amarande | And one of the DPS couldn't be at his keyboard |
| 22:33.16 | Amarande | so now our healer got assigned to another dungeon group, and we'll probably lose our tank and wait another 30 min! |
| 22:33.37 | Lulia | How does that work, anyways? |
| 22:33.44 | Lulia | I've noticed it happen, but it doesnt make sense |
| 22:33.55 | Lulia | If you have a mostly full group, what gets the healer reassigned? |
| 22:34.33 | industrial | <3 leveling a tank |
| 22:34.54 | Lulia | Me too |
| 22:34.57 | Nobgul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=606eK4abteQ&feature=BF&list=SL&index=2 |
| 22:35.01 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 22:35.02 | industrial | just the queue, the waiting itself, needing to spend time dowing nothing before you can go makes me not want to level a DPS with dungeons.. |
| 22:35.08 | industrial | doing* |
| 22:35.23 | Lulia | But it's frustrating playing your nontanks and getting screwed out of a queue because of an afk dps. IF a healer is assigned to your group, what makes it assign it to another group instead? :-/ |
| 22:35.40 | Lulia | Though my pally tank at 29 spent 10 minutes in a queue the other day |
| 22:35.44 | Lulia | Was sort of awkward |
| 22:37.16 | Nobgul | The Queue's seem to be getting worse. I spent 45 mins in queue earlier today to get into Gnomer to have the tank bail when he saw what instance it was. |
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| 22:38.08 | Amarande | Nobgul: not even the worst. |
| 22:38.15 | Amarande | I did HHoR once, it took 40+ minutes |
| 22:38.16 | Amarande | and the tank |
| 22:38.26 | Amarande | the TANK! the people who almost always pop right away! said his was 90 minutes |
| 22:38.40 | Amarande | yay, now we have a healer in queue, but not a tank! |
| 22:38.44 | Nobgul | Lol. |
| 22:39.14 | Amarande | you know, why can't they just dump you in 4-man if a DPS is AFK and have you queue to pick up a 5th, like when someone leaves? |
| 22:39.14 | Nobgul | I love the lvl 80 queues. If itc occ, or hor someone normally leaves. But i do respect the people like my self that atleast say something. |
| 22:39.36 | Amarande | although I guess in BC heroics that would be evil and vile and nasty |
| 22:39.40 | Nobgul | Amarande: That makes to much sense. |
| 22:39.54 | Amarande | or put the dungeon deserter mark on people who miss their queue |
| 22:40.01 | Amarande | not ones who hit decline, but ones who afk for it |
| 22:40.10 | Amarande | that would get people to pay attention |
| 22:40.11 | Xyphoid | so i've been queuing and dropping if it isn't heroic oculus |
| 22:40.44 | Nobgul | So why not queue specific? |
| 22:41.08 | Amarande | meanwhile, questing is going to be a pain in the ass because my quest tracker is off the rails until I GET this dungeon group. |
| 22:41.15 | Xyphoid | no bonus bag for queuing specificlaly |
| 22:41.37 | Nobgul | 0_O |
| 22:41.48 | Amarande | you know, Xyph, I was wondering why on one H Occ run I didn't get the bag at the end |
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| 22:44.27 | Amarande | s'pose I could hire an 80, but this server charges way too much for everything |
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| 22:45.33 | zenzelezz | oh, Slashdot... "Apache Declares War On Oracle Over Java" => "Now we know who launched that missile" |
| 22:45.42 | foxlit | Amusing. |
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| 22:56.06 | Shirik | eclipse is officially the biggest POS of an open source project ever |
| 22:56.16 | Nobgul | 0_o |
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| 22:57.08 | Nobgul | u talking about the IDE? |
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| 23:02.06 | Shirik | yes the IDE |
| 23:03.03 | Amarande | hmm |
| 23:03.08 | Amarande | did 4.0 break whisper in cross-server dungeon groups? |
| 23:07.12 | Amarande | every time I try, I get "no player named (toon-realm) is currently playing" |
| 23:07.15 | Amarande | worked in 3.3.x |
| 23:07.34 | Amarande | can't put them on ignore from cross server either, you get player not found |
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| 23:12.54 | Lulia | I've never been able to ignore cross-server |
| 23:12.55 | Lulia | :-/ |
| 23:13.30 | Shirik | ~wiki penismaster |
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| 23:14.09 | Lulia | >.> |
| 23:15.10 | syrae | Shirik: I don't want to click that link, but please tell me that's actually true |
| 23:15.22 | Shirik | I doubt it's true |
| 23:15.27 | Shirik | and without references I refuse to believe it's true |
| 23:16.01 | syrae | does the page actually say that, though> |
| 23:16.06 | syrae | and is it not recent? |
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| 23:16.14 | Shirik | no it was just created |
| 23:17.08 | Lulia | I don't know what you're talking about |
| 23:17.09 | Lulia | ;) |
| 23:17.12 | Lulia | It doesn't exist :P |
| 23:17.52 | Lunessa | It's a fake. |
| 23:20.06 | Cide | Shirik controls all of wikipedia and likely deleted it swiftly |
| 23:21.06 | industrial | oh, I was just about toy yell I CAN DO THAT TOO! :( |
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| 23:23.31 | Mirrormn | I like how the same article was created and deleted 4 years ago |
| 23:23.35 | Mirrormn | good old internet |
| 23:24.38 | Angayelle | penismaster can do the helicopter with their penis |
| 23:25.23 | Shirik | Cide: I was going to delete it |
| 23:25.26 | Shirik | but then someone else did |
| 23:26.25 | Kraps | http://www.massively.com/2010/11/04/the-perfect-ten-weird-staples-of-every-fantasy-mmo/ |
| 23:28.04 | Angayelle | to define the "unit" attributes in secureframes, we can use strings from UnitId but we cannot use variables ? |
| 23:28.36 | industrial | Kraps: lol @ kill 10 rats pic :D saw the picture first, thought about the staple, couldn't think of one then read the title xD |
| 23:30.12 | batrick | hello Shirik |
| 23:33.00 | Amarande | yay, guildie 80 helped me with SH |
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| 23:34.55 | Amarande | now to turn this stuff in so my quest log isn't broken anymore |
| 23:35.07 | Amarande | also to garotte a certain rogue if I ever encounter him again in one of my randoms |
| 23:35.29 | syrae | ok, if I want to add to my addon to the Blizz options panel.. and I have really simple, lightweight options I want to do, should I learn how to do it myself, or should I get a lib to handle it for me (and if so, what lib?) |
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| 23:36.27 | Xyphoid | have you ever considered a blog amarande |
| 23:37.07 | Kraps | Xyphoid: twitter would work better |
| 23:37.59 | Shirik | nice Kraps |
| 23:38.02 | Shirik | hello batrick |
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| 23:38.48 | Kraps | i heard that twitter is officially call a "micro-blog" |
| 23:39.48 | foxlit | Kraps: we cannot allow a micro-technology gap. Launch the nano-blog! |
| 23:40.09 | foxlit | 140 bits ought to be enough for anyone. |
| 23:40.13 | Xyphoid | 'it's like twitter but you get one word' |
| 23:40.27 | Xyphoid | you just know that people have had this conversation with investors |
| 23:40.37 | Arrowmaster | i was going to say 14 bytes |
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| 23:40.58 | Xyphoid | clearly it's time to leapfrog the competition and switch straight to zero-length updates |
| 23:41.22 | foxlit | Xyphoid: madness! |
| 23:41.46 | Jerub | hm. http://twitter.com/BlizzardUpdate |
| 23:41.57 | Xyphoid | look, it allows you to build your dynamic social graph much faster |
| 23:42.32 | Jerub | Xyphoid: wouldn't that be homeopathic blogging? |
| 23:44.01 | Kraps | Jerub: http://twitter.com/#!/BlizzardUpdate/status/2104404882755585 http://twitter.com/#!/BlizzardUpdate/status/2104401997070336 |
| 23:44.18 | Kraps | srsly, if it has "blizzard" in it... |
| 23:44.50 | Kraps | ok i hate you for linking that account |
| 23:44.58 | foxlit | Kraps: presumably some unofficial crap. |
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| 23:47.00 | Jerub | Kraps: i only linked it because it looked suss |
| 23:47.07 | Jerub | sigh |
| 23:47.08 | Jerub | twitter SOE |
| 23:47.12 | Jerub | er SEO |
| 23:47.19 | Kraps | k |
| 23:48.55 | ZorbaBeta | man I hope we get an Azeroth Wormhole Generator |
| 23:49.19 | Angayelle | syrae do it yourself |
| 23:49.51 | syrae | Angayelle: okies :) |
| 23:50.00 | Angayelle | gonna post the code |
| 23:50.49 | Nobgul | syrae: Use the ace lib imho. |
| 23:50.56 | Nobgul | thats what i was told anyway |
| 23:51.09 | Lulia | I just did it myself, it's not a lot of work |
| 23:51.38 | syrae | I'd like to avoid using Ace libs if possible. My stuff is really simple, so it seems dumb to add in Ace stuff if I just want a few check boxes or something |
| 23:51.42 | Cide | don't use ace before you know how to do it properly without ace. |
| 23:51.57 | Cide | also Sintacks |
| 23:52.16 | syrae | yeah, Sintacks your word highlight on Ace reply is obnoxious |
| 23:52.17 | Cide | remove your fucking notify that you're away when we're discussing ace and not you |
| 23:53.00 | Arrowmaster | ace |
| 23:53.01 | Angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142669 here |
| 23:53.04 | Nobgul | I have noticed that. It says a 1 time spam but i get it all the time |
| 23:53.10 | ZorbaBeta | ace test |
| 23:53.15 | ZorbaBeta | wow that really is annoying |
| 23:53.22 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: remove it |
| 23:53.56 | Shirik | ? |
| 23:54.03 | Nobgul | the away thingie |
| 23:54.11 | Nobgul | -Sintacks- I'm away: Auto-Away [10 min idle] ~ gone for 18 minutes 15 seconds (one time response triggered by: Highlight [ace]) |
| 23:54.12 | Lulia | I'm confused |
| 23:54.14 | Arrowmaster | you have +o, you can remove it |
| 23:54.21 | Shirik | remove? |
| 23:54.29 | Lulia | Why am I not seeing it? >.> |
| 23:54.34 | Nobgul | Its a notice |
| 23:54.37 | Lulia | I mean, I'm glad I'm not |
| 23:54.42 | Lulia | But I don't see it, which is odd. |
| 23:54.44 | Arrowmaster | Lulia: say ace |
| 23:54.47 | Nobgul | Lulia: They think that a op can rmove it. |
| 23:54.52 | Sintacks | wat |
| 23:54.54 | Lulia | ace |
| 23:54.56 | Shirik | ace |
| 23:55.02 | Nobgul | But they can't it is a notice. just block notices and it will go away. |
| 23:55.44 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: I'm going to make the assumption that this is a personal notice, not a channel one |
| 23:55.58 | Shirik | but seriously Sintacks don't do that |
| 23:56.03 | Angayelle | you know how to handle checkboxes, button and sliders, syrae ? |
| 23:56.27 | syrae | I did them in Java Swing about 10 years ago... >_> |
| 23:56.30 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: triggered by messages in the channel, thus it would have been possible for you to 'solve' the issue |
| 23:56.37 | Shirik | yes I didn't see it |
| 23:56.54 | Sintacks | it's at the top of my fix list, Shirik |
| 23:57.18 | Arrowmaster | fix it before you go afk again then |
| 23:57.21 | Cide | it's fixed in a minute |
| 23:57.37 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster: If it is a private notice the only way to "fix" it would be to remove him from the room. |
| 23:57.50 | syrae | That's doable |
| 23:57.51 | Arrowmaster | Nobgul: which is what i was referring to |
| 23:58.00 | Sintacks | There are several ways of "fixing" a notice |
| 23:58.04 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster: How about you get removed for being pushy? |
| 23:58.13 | Cide | such as removing it altogether |
| 23:58.26 | Shirik | Nobgul: That was uncalled for |
| 23:58.28 | Sintacks | ignore notices. ignore the person. remove the person. have the person make it not exist. |
| 23:58.46 | Cide | I prefer the first three |
| 23:58.47 | Nobgul | Sorry Shirik, |
| 23:58.48 | syrae | Angayelle: I don't know how to do UI stuff in WoW yet, but it's learnable. :) |
| 23:58.57 | Sintacks | And, since no one has bitched like most other channels have, I'm actually fixing it now, and not putting it off like I've done in the past. lol |
| 23:58.59 | Xyphoid | ace |
| 23:59.38 | Arrowmaster | im in several channels where any sort of auto away message gets you kickbaned by a bot |
| 23:59.46 | Lulia | The widgets page on wowprogramming or wowpedia are where I looked to for UI stuff, Syrae. |
| 23:59.54 | Arrowmaster | but those are triggered by messages to the channel |
| 23:59.55 | Lulia | Granted, I'm still learning, but they're pretty good resources. |
