| 00:01.15 | Dagmar | Wait, I actually do know two people |
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| 00:01.24 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/umLYY.jpg |
| 00:01.43 | Dagmar | I like those guys too, so now I'm going to be tempted to secretly hate them because Pulse doesn't break their stuff |
| 00:02.20 | Dagmar | a-ko: *ugh* that's horrible |
| 00:02.23 | Jerub | i'm just so glad that windows has caught up to linux finally :) |
| 00:02.35 | Jerub | Dagmar: i use pulse. |
| 00:02.40 | Cide | in terms of? |
| 00:02.42 | Jerub | Dagmar: but i don't use it with games or anything. |
| 00:02.44 | Dagmar | Jerub: does it plague your life? |
| 00:02.54 | Jerub | Cide: ease of installation, software support, driver support :) |
| 00:03.27 | Jerub | i mean, sure, if you were an expert you could get those winxp respins that had drivers included and stuff |
| 00:03.28 | Shirik | totally random question |
| 00:03.31 | Dagmar | I've got people telling me it's working fine in Ubuntu 10.10, but Totem sure as hell coughs up a hairball when I try to use it |
| 00:03.33 | Shirik | why don't we use 6-bit systems anymore? |
| 00:03.43 | Shirik | or maybe we can use 9-bit systems |
| 00:03.45 | Dagmar | shirik: Computer wiring is less messy in powers of two |
| 00:03.48 | Shirik | just something that's a multiple of 3 |
| 00:03.49 | Jerub | Dagmar: heh, totem. |
| 00:04.17 | Dagmar | Jerub: yeah it's good that Gnome can get all the fail rounded up into one hellishly-complex disaster prone piece of shit so that we can use Mplayer in peace |
| 00:04.21 | Jerub | Dagmar: the one time i saw totem successfully play a video was at a linux conference where a fluendo employee took over the presenter's laptop for 3 mintues to fix gstreamer issues |
| 00:04.42 | Dagmar | Beating on gstreamer is never fun |
| 00:04.48 | Shirik | Is there any power of 2 that's divisible by 3? |
| 00:04.50 | Cide | vi /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf |
| 00:04.53 | Cide | oops |
| 00:04.54 | Jerub | like, for real, that was the first and last time i saw totem play a video. |
| 00:04.54 | Cide | wtc |
| 00:05.09 | Cide | irssi does local path tab completion |
| 00:05.10 | Cide | that's funny |
| 00:05.11 | Shirik | lua> a = 2; while a % 3 ~= 0 do a = a * 2; end print a |
| 00:05.11 | Jerub | Shirik: um, no. |
| 00:05.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'a' |
| 00:05.16 | Dagmar | Cide: That may be part of the problem. Intel only _pretended_ to have a standard for that |
| 00:05.26 | Cide | hm? |
| 00:05.28 | mitchnull | shirik: get some rest |
| 00:05.33 | Shirik | lua> local a = 2; while a % 3 ~= 0 do a = a * 2; end print(a) |
| 00:05.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 00:05.39 | Jerub | Shirik: the answer is no. |
| 00:05.43 | Shirik | this some BS :( |
| 00:05.58 | Cide | um :P |
| 00:06.00 | Dagmar | Cide: Manufs found that intel didn't define nearly as mnay things as they should have, so the configuration of the six-stack outputs and so on... all wildly variant |
| 00:06.04 | Cide | 2 and 3 are both prime numbers |
| 00:06.07 | Shirik | wtb |
| 00:06.09 | Cide | 2^n is not divisible by 3 |
| 00:06.11 | Shirik | need 3 |
| 00:06.13 | Shirik | 3 |
| 00:06.14 | Shirik | 3333 |
| 00:06.16 | Dagmar | The intel_hda driver is a bit naieve about it still |
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| 00:06.25 | Cide | rofl Shirik |
| 00:06.29 | Cide | what did you take |
| 00:06.38 | Shirik | I thought of this brilliant idea |
| 00:06.43 | Shirik | and now I'm just trying to find an efficient solution |
| 00:06.47 | Shirik | but it relies on 3s |
| 00:06.57 | Dagmar | Isn't there a theorem about that? |
| 00:07.01 | Shirik | I mean I can do it in 4s or higher but it would be non-deterministic |
| 00:07.10 | brandonjviles | ask god, he deals with 3s |
| 00:07.15 | Shirik | brb |
| 00:07.19 | brandonjviles | lol |
| 00:07.24 | Dagmar | Even numbers and powers of even numbers being not divisble by odd numbers |
| 00:07.55 | Cide | it's trivial? |
| 00:08.16 | Cide | well |
| 00:08.23 | Cide | trivially untrue in the way you stated it |
| 00:08.41 | Cide | (2*3)^2 is divisible by 3 despite 6 being even |
| 00:09.32 | Dagmar | Well, even primes or something |
| 00:09.41 | Cide | there is only one even prime |
| 00:09.43 | Dagmar | ...of which there's a very small set. ;) |
| 00:09.50 | Cide | nice save |
| 00:10.36 | Dagmar | Damned if I know how to query google on that but I could swear I've seen that as a proof before |
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| 00:21.32 | solocommand | Does addon studio still exist? |
| 00:22.33 | brandonjviles | just downloaded it |
| 00:22.40 | brandonjviles | well |
| 00:22.43 | brandonjviles | maybe not |
| 00:23.22 | brandonjviles | Maybe WoW UI Designer will work for ya? |
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| 00:23.28 | brandonjviles | on wowinterface |
| 00:35.17 | solocommand | ty brandonjviles |
| 00:35.32 | brandonjviles | np |
| 00:36.23 | Wobin | omg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXElh_VM0Uc&feature=player_embedded |
| 00:36.25 | Wobin | awesome dog |
| 00:36.52 | ThuG4LifE | lol man how things get around |
| 00:37.01 | brandonjviles | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27188064868&sid=1 - Also may be of interest to you if you get an error upon launch about frame.xsd |
| 00:38.12 | ThuG4LifE | Can anyone help me fix an addon. since the patch it stopped working |
| 00:38.19 | brandonjviles | that is an awesome dog |
| 00:38.23 | brandonjviles | lol |
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| 00:46.10 | brandonjviles | anyone here use WoW UI Designer? |
| 00:46.49 | Shirik | if you do, you need to stop using it |
| 00:47.10 | solocommand | :F |
| 00:47.26 | brandonjviles | nah |
| 00:47.31 | Shirik | yah |
| 00:47.50 | Shirik | There would be a lot of people yelling at you right now agreeing with me, but they're all at the UI dinner |
| 00:47.50 | brandonjviles | i will probably quit once i get introduced to the syntax a little better |
| 00:48.00 | Shirik | you get introduced to the syntax by not using it |
| 00:48.03 | amro | Shirik: I'd yell but it's 2am |
| 00:48.08 | Shirik | if you continue to use it, you will learn the wrong way |
| 00:48.13 | Shirik | and unlearning is a hell of a lot harder |
| 00:48.26 | foxlit | amro: 3 :( |
| 00:48.26 | brandonjviles | alrighty |
| 00:48.49 | amro | oh cool, im not the only insomniac in here tonight |
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| 00:51.11 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 00:52.12 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 00:53.42 | Cide | how are you? |
| 00:57.16 | Shirik | tired |
| 00:57.50 | sylvanaar | someone should make a ui designer out of velocity templates or some sort of template system. |
| 00:58.27 | Shirik | eclipse plugin |
| 00:58.29 | Shirik | oh god |
| 00:58.34 | Shirik | I would kill myself |
| 00:58.57 | Cide | someone should make a ui designer in wow |
| 00:59.04 | Cide | why do it outside when the renderer is already done |
| 01:00.32 | Yssaril | doesnt blizzard have some sort of ui designer they use inhouse? |
| 01:00.45 | Cide | very much doubt it |
| 01:00.51 | Cide | it's easy enough to do as it is |
| 01:01.00 | sylvanaar | they have that tool that they let us use |
| 01:01.18 | sylvanaar | that let you make frame settings |
| 01:01.28 | sylvanaar | it was stupid |
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| 01:04.06 | brandonjviles | does anyone know of a good website that shows how to code frames in xml? or a good basic addon that shows its use.. nothing with Ace3 or any other Libs at the moment |
| 01:04.29 | sylvanaar | ~wowprogramming |
| 01:04.29 | purl | i guess wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 01:04.32 | Yssaril | brandonjviles: stay away from xml just learn it in lua right away |
| 01:05.46 | brandonjviles | any resources on that subject, google has been littered with stuff from 2006 |
| 01:07.03 | brandonjviles | oh, thanks sylvaar |
| 01:07.18 | brandonjviles | didnt see that before i replied :D |
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| 01:17.26 | Shirik | I have a brilliant idea |
| 01:17.32 | Shirik | instead of talking about how we can create UI designers |
| 01:17.35 | Shirik | in eclipse or whatever |
| 01:17.39 | Shirik | let's all stop using XML |
| 01:17.41 | Shirik | that would be cool |
| 01:18.25 | sylvanaar | i still dont think there is anything wrong with xml |
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| 01:20.55 | cralor | is UnitName() still defined for dead players? |
| 01:21.21 | A-KO | lol Shirik |
| 01:21.47 | Yssaril | cralor: why shouldn't it? |
| 01:22.00 | A-KO | to be honest Shirik, I prefer to have XML and LUA separation. XML for the UI design, LUA for functionality. It's just a thing I prefer with separation, allows a ridiculous amount of flexibility. :P |
| 01:22.07 | cralor | Yssaril : just wondering. |
| 01:22.10 | cralor | having an issue 1sec |
| 01:22.29 | Shirik | Yssaril: When I kill players I hit them so hard they forget who they are |
| 01:22.53 | Cide | I mind blast once and they're gone already |
| 01:23.07 | cralor | http://pastey.net/141940 - neither 'targetname' nor 'mousename' are ever NOT 'nil'... odd |
| 01:23.31 | cralor | neither will be true, which is not what I want |
| 01:23.50 | cralor | I want: if target, do chat messages to target. otherwise, to mouseover |
| 01:24.15 | sylvanaar | UnitExists("target") ? |
| 01:26.05 | cralor | ah, sweet |
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| 01:30.56 | cralor | thanks sylvanaar |
| 01:31.54 | Cide | btw |
| 01:31.55 | sylvanaar | the trick is making it work for people who have released. not many rez announcers do that correctly |
| 01:31.59 | Cide | that addon looks like the most annoying ever |
| 01:35.36 | Shirik | you light it and lo and behold |
| 01:35.38 | Shirik | it's coming alive! |
| 01:35.52 | Cide | the 3's? |
| 01:35.56 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:35.57 | Cide | did you take some more? |
| 01:36.00 | Shirik | omg yes |
| 01:36.02 | Cide | 333333s |
| 01:36.07 | Shirik | seriously |
| 01:36.18 | Shirik | if I could find some clean way of fitting 3 bits in |
| 01:36.20 | Shirik | it would be perfect |
| 01:36.24 | Cide | rofl |
| 01:37.02 | Cide | can't you go with the number of 3's that give the least amount of overhead bits? |
| 01:37.06 | Cide | or is that worse than 2's still |
| 01:38.20 | Shirik | I can |
| 01:38.22 | Shirik | but it would be slow |
| 01:38.24 | Shirik | very slow |
| 01:38.52 | |Jelly| | Dear Shirik, Please ping me so I can stop being all o.O about it. -Jelly |
| 01:38.53 | Cide | too ba |
| 01:38.54 | Shirik | maybe I could operate 3 bytes at a time |
| 01:38.54 | Cide | d |
| 01:38.59 | Shirik | hi |Jelly| |
| 01:39.05 | |Jelly| | hi Shirik |
| 01:39.18 | Cide | doit |
| 01:39.23 | Cide | 8 sets of 3's! |
| 01:39.32 | Humbedooh | I'll have whatever Shirik is smoking |
| 01:39.47 | |Jelly| | No really, Shirik |
| 01:39.51 | |Jelly| | You said you'd ping me. |
| 01:39.56 | |Jelly| | But you wouldn't tell me what for. |
| 01:40.04 | |Jelly| | I'm going to hate you to death if you don't spill the beans. |
| 01:40.15 | Shirik | I will don't worry |
| 01:40.19 | Ycarene | Anybody remember the old Dial-in BBS's? |
| 01:40.37 | Shirik | why nostalgia when you still use them? |
| 01:40.44 | Humbedooh | Ycarene: we may be old but we ain't senile yet |
| 01:40.53 | |Jelly| | Shirik isn't old! |
| 01:40.58 | Shirik | yes I am |
| 01:41.06 | Humbedooh | he pretends to be! |
| 01:41.07 | Ycarene | I've ressurected mine |
| 01:41.09 | |Jelly| | lies! I've seen the pictures! |
| 01:42.32 | cralor | Cide: well, it was requested. don't think I will release |
| 01:42.52 | cralor | http://mashable.com/2010/10/21/free-amazon-web-services/ |
| 01:44.19 | Humbedooh | do people still have modems tho? ;p |
| 01:45.08 | Ycarene | Humbedooh - BBS's are mostly telnet now |
| 01:45.17 | Ycarene | telnet://b-o-g.net |
| 01:45.22 | Humbedooh | pft, that's cheating |
| 01:45.33 | Xyphoid | modems sure, but who has terminal software any more |
| 01:46.04 | Yssaril | Humbedooh: i still have my old ISA slot modem :) (be damned if i have a comp that i can plug it into though) |
| 01:46.06 | Ycarene | flashterm, heh. |
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| 01:46.28 | Humbedooh | starts mumbling something about atdt... |
| 01:46.29 | Ycarene | I've got a terminal on my webpage that runs on flash. |
| 01:46.58 | Ycarene | And syncterm is free |
| 01:47.18 | Humbedooh | puttty ftw |
| 01:47.58 | Humbedooh | s/puttty/putty/ |
| 01:48.14 | Humbedooh | nods at purl. |
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| 02:06.26 | Yssaril | jnwhiteh: /cry your wow programming book doesnt have anything on StaticPopupDialogs |
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| 02:12.22 | Shirik | cide |
| 02:12.23 | Shirik | dont' leave me |
| 02:13.20 | amro | shirik |
| 02:13.22 | amro | im here for you |
| 02:13.30 | Shirik | <3 |
| 02:13.52 | amro | also my wikibot works |
| 02:13.54 | amro | so yay |
| 02:14.44 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:14.48 | Arrowmaster` | Shirik: get your ass to blizzcon |
| 02:15.07 | Baps | arrow: "two weeks." ? |
| 02:15.34 | amro | Shirik: http://pastebin.ca/1969544 -> http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=User:Amro/Bot&curid=296204&diff=2417096&oldid=2416048 |
| 02:15.52 | Arrowmaster` | feet hurt already and blizzcon hasnt even officially started yet |
| 02:16.28 | amro | that's what you get for not going out more oftne |
| 02:19.13 | Shirik | Arrowmaster :( |
| 02:19.20 | Shirik | cannot get there until tomorrow |
| 02:22.07 | Arrowmaster` | ok adys found some curse guys in the hilton lobby, if its ckk they are probably getting drunk at the bar |
| 02:22.19 | Arrowmaster` | gota go meet up with them |
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| 02:23.41 | Shirik | haha |
| 02:23.59 | Lulia | Oh, no. Laughing. O.o |
| 02:25.23 | Lulia | So... hi |
| 02:26.07 | Shirik | hi |
| 02:26.46 | Lulia | This place is for WoW UI Development Discussion? |
| 02:27.15 | Jerub | yes |
| 02:27.35 | Jerub | also for amarande to QQ about whatever he can. it's got multiple uses. |
| 02:27.44 | Lulia | Seems sort of dead. |
| 02:28.00 | kd3|netbook | largely because a lot of us are at blizzcon atm |
| 02:28.03 | kd3|netbook | or otherwise occupied |
| 02:28.16 | Lulia | nods. |
| 02:28.22 | |Jelly| | blah blah blah ... my name is kd3 and i'm at blizzcon blah blah blah :( /jealous |
| 02:28.46 | Lulia | Would be nice to be at Blizzcon |
| 02:28.56 | Lulia | So, erm, how newbie friendly is this channel? |
| 02:29.12 | kd3|netbook | fairly. ask your question, we should be able to help |
| 02:29.15 | |Jelly| | Well, I'm in here so I'd say pretty friendly. |
| 02:29.40 | Lulia | God... it's really newbish, but... |
| 02:30.59 | Lulia | I'm literally just starting into AddOns, sans tutorial because I really can't find any tutorials that I liked. Anyways, I have basic knowledge of scripting so picking up Lua syntax was fairly easy. I also understand how XML functions, just not all of the widgets and attributes that WoW uses specifically. So that's our starting base. |
| 02:31.28 | Lulia | So I started the Addon but creating a frame without any dimensions which had Script tags with an OnLoad event inside of them. |
| 02:31.32 | Lulia | by* |
| 02:31.39 | |Jelly| | !wowprogramming |
| 02:31.44 | |Jelly| | fails |
| 02:31.53 | |Jelly| | http://wowprogramming.com/ <-- that |
| 02:32.13 | Lulia | Does it cost money? |
| 02:32.24 | Lulia | >.> |
| 02:32.25 | |Jelly| | Yes, it's a book |
| 02:32.29 | Lulia | QQ |
| 02:32.42 | Lulia | Sort of broke atm... |
| 02:32.50 | |Jelly| | wowwiki.com |
| 02:32.56 | Lulia | Right, I'm using wowwiki |
| 02:33.04 | Lulia | Which is how I got the functions to make my basic script. |
| 02:33.18 | Lulia | But the script got fairly large so I figured I'd move it to a lua file. |
| 02:33.23 | Lulia | So I made it into a lua file |
| 02:34.17 | Lulia | And now I can't figure out how to access functions from the Lua file in the XML file, I tried <Script file="name.lua"/> and then opened up new Script tags to run some of the rest of the script that wasn't in the lua file. |
| 02:34.21 | Lulia | But that didn't work |
| 02:35.03 | Lulia | So I tried creating a new frame with the <Script file="name.lua"/> and then in the frame I had before I tried to use the small bit of script outside of it. But yeah... |
| 02:35.54 | Lulia | wowwiki tells me that once a lua file is loaded from the <Script> tag that I should be able to access its contents throughout the XML file. |
| 02:38.40 | Lulia | >.> |
| 02:52.53 | Kraps | what material is best for a mousepad for an optical mouse? |
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| 02:53.52 | Lulia | I think I killed it, Kraps. |
| 02:53.55 | Lulia | I was too much newb |
| 02:54.42 | Kraps | Lulia: i'm just in this channel for the lulz |
| 02:55.27 | Yssaril | Kraps: i just use my wooden desk :) |
| 02:55.43 | Lulia | Same! |
| 02:55.55 | Kraps | Yssaril: my desk isnt doing it for me |
| 02:55.58 | Yssaril | but anything without a 100% smooth surface should work |
| 02:56.11 | Yssaril | get a better mouse then :P |
| 02:56.23 | Kraps | no its my desk |
| 02:56.48 | Yssaril | in the past when the desk alone didn't work the cheapest solution is to simply tape a normal peice of paper to it :) |
| 02:58.02 | Lulia | Yup |
| 02:58.13 | Lulia | Reflective surfaces sometimes cause issues |
| 02:58.24 | Lulia | As long as the surface is opaque you should be a-ok |
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| 03:00.06 | Kraps | there are "soft" mousepads |
| 03:00.54 | Xyphoid | soft foam mousepads don't work great for optical mice, those flexible textured plastic 'surfaces' aren't bad |
| 03:02.31 | Lulia | I'm going to go back to figuring out how to get my lua to work from a separate file |
| 03:02.35 | Lulia | sighs. |
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| 03:13.20 | Kraps | "We confront Bill Clinton at the USF in St.petersburg Florida at a kindrick meek rally asking him real questions concerning 9/11 nwo, bilderberg group etc." |
| 03:13.29 | Kraps | ohhhh |
| 03:15.58 | Dagmar | Did he show someone his pimp hand? |
| 03:17.35 | Dagmar | It took Neil Armstrong awhile before he did that, and I'm glad he finally did. |
| 03:18.45 | Dagmar | argh s/Neil Armstrong/Buzz Aldrin/ |
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| 03:21.31 | Kraps | "Aliens have been withheld from the public for decades now" |
| 03:22.35 | Kraps | "Walt Disney, Monsanto discovered among Blackwaterâs hidden clients" |
| 03:23.16 | Dagmar | Yeah, but that latter one is probably true anyway |
| 03:23.41 | Kraps | Dagmar: its supposed to mean something? |
| 03:24.22 | Kraps | A leading Bilderberg spokesman mourned that âright-wing populism is on the upswingâ and is likely to destroy hopes of a world government because of increasing âhard-edged nationalism.â... in the Bilderberg-controlled Washington Post. |
| 03:25.56 | Kraps | why am i even on this site? |
| 03:26.11 | Amarande | And apparently in trade, we have a raid guy saying LFM for VoA25: needs 19 DPS, 2 tanks, and 4 healers. |
| 03:26.13 | Amarande | I guess he's not going. |
| 03:28.58 | Dagmar | Kraps: LOL I thought those were Onion headlines. Apparently it *was* true |
| 03:29.24 | Dagmar | Amarande: He's just going to collect the door fees. ;) |
| 03:33.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Sesshu| (~Sesshu@ip-193-16.travedsl.de) |
| 03:34.19 | Jerub | http://imgur.com/Xpk9e.jpg |
| 03:34.38 | Kraps | heres a better article http://www.cracked.com/article_16705_6-most-utterly-insane-attempts-kill-us-president.html |
| 03:41.02 | Lulia | Oh geez, I think I just realized why my earlier problem happened |
| 03:41.06 | Lulia | I feel so dumb :( |
| 03:42.07 | Lulia | I changed the toc file without restarting WoW |
| 03:42.21 | Lulia | But now I have a question that's a bit more serious, if anyone can answer it. |
| 03:43.22 | amro | the world my never know |
| 03:43.24 | amro | unless of course |
| 03:43.26 | amro | ~asktoask |
| 03:43.26 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 03:43.36 | amro | may dammit, may |
| 03:43.39 | amro | I ruined that |
| 03:43.40 | amro | :( |
| 03:43.53 | Lulia | I'm using UnitPower and UnitPowerMax with an OnLoad event in a frame. However, when my character enters into the game for the first time, both of those values end up being 0. |
| 03:44.11 | Lulia | If I can't initialize them in OnLoad, when is the best time to initialize them with proper values? |
| 03:44.45 | Yssaril | Lulia: probably on player login |
| 03:45.01 | Lulia | Which isn't OnLoad? |
| 03:45.37 | amro | could listen for UNIT_POWER |
| 03:45.51 | Yssaril | Lulia: OnLoad firest when the wow layout engine is done with setting up the frame (depending on when you do this it can be way before you are done loggin in) |
| 03:47.22 | Yssaril | Lulia: onload is basicaly just for when you create frames in XML and need to know that they have been created |
| 03:48.01 | Lulia | Alright, I'm very new. Apologies :-/ First AddOn and all. |
| 03:48.08 | Mirrormn | UNIT_POWER ftw |
| 03:48.09 | Lulia | So I want to register a log-in event? |
| 03:48.11 | Yssaril | np |
| 03:48.26 | Lulia | When someone's name is red on the IRC channel, are they whispering to me? |
| 03:48.47 | Yssaril | yea go with amro's and Mirrormn's suggestion that event will fire everytime the power value changes |
| 03:49.09 | Yssaril | Lulia: depends on your IRC client :P |
| 03:49.19 | Mirrormn | Frame:RegisterEvent("UNIT_POWER"); Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() local value, max = UnitPower("player"), UnitMaxPower("player) end); |
| 03:49.20 | amro | red means evil |
| 03:49.32 | Mirrormn | red generally means they said your name |
| 03:49.59 | Lulia | Which they do how? |
| 03:50.04 | amro | Lulia |
| 03:50.06 | amro | like that |
| 03:50.13 | Yssaril | Lulia: if this is red for you it means i used your name in a sentence |
| 03:50.18 | Lulia | Ah |
| 03:50.24 | Lulia | Yssaril: Like that? |
| 03:50.35 | Lulia | But it could also work if I said amro? |
| 03:50.42 | Lulia | Or if I said Mirrormn? |
| 03:50.42 | Yssaril | yea exxept for me it makes the text white with a black background :) |
| 03:50.48 | Lulia | :P |
| 03:51.06 | Mirrormn | hey, you made my window flash and stuff -.- |
| 03:51.06 | amro | yes |
| 03:51.50 | Lulia | So, Mirrormn, I noticed you have it in the lua format. Is that generally considered better than putting it in frame tags in the XML? |
| 03:51.56 | Yssaril | we also have some fun bots in here that can do your bidding |
| 03:52.03 | Yssaril | ~lart Lulia |
| 03:52.03 | purl | executes killall -KILL Lulia |
| 03:52.06 | Mirrormn | I hate defining frames in XML |
| 03:52.15 | Mirrormn | it's definitely "out of vogue" nowadays |
| 03:52.21 | amro | [04:52] <Mirrormn> I hate XML |
| 03:52.23 | amro | fixed |
| 03:52.27 | Lulia | Well, I'm new to this so I don't see why you'd do one or the other, really. |
| 03:52.28 | Mirrormn | although there's nothing inherently wrong with it |
| 03:52.38 | Lulia | I mean, I understand basic scripting principles, which makes all of this easier. |
| 03:52.56 | Kraps | http://www.maniacworld.com/Assassination-Attempt-President-Ronald-Reagan.html |
| 03:53.00 | Lulia | I've done some learning in C and C++ and I use another scripting language for a MUD Client I use. |
| 03:53.38 | Yssaril | its a lot easier to read lua frame code than XML frame code also you can create frames ondemand in lua whereas with xml your stuck with what you created at load time |
| 03:53.50 | Lulia | But learning the WoW API stuff is a lot of leaning on free reference atm |
| 03:54.32 | amro | Kraps: old imo |
| 03:54.45 | Lulia | If I were to take what Mirrormn just gave me, it would fire every time UNIT_POWER fired? |
| 03:54.46 | Yssaril | Lulia: wowprogramming.com and http://www.wowpedia.org/Portal:Interface_customization are great resources |
| 03:54.59 | Kraps | amro: never saw it this long |
| 03:54.59 | Mirrormn | well, yeah |
| 03:55.15 | Lulia | What makes wowpedia different than wowwiki?? |
| 03:55.26 | Yssaril | wowwiki is evil |
| 03:55.50 | Lulia | Uh oh |
| 03:56.15 | amro | Kraps: I like how 4 minutes later, some guy is like "call an ambulance, quick"" |
| 03:56.39 | Yssaril | wowwiki is hosed on wikia which tried to impose all sorts of rules and stupid layouts on them so they left and created wowpedia |
| 03:56.50 | Yssaril | s/hosed/hosted/ |
| 03:56.56 | Kraps | amro: really, no medical staff on hand? |
| 03:56.58 | Mirrormn | "who said he did it for actress Jodie Foster whom he was infatuated with." SHOULD BE "with whom he was infatuated"!!! |
| 03:57.12 | Mirrormn | I FIND THIS POOR GRAMMAR ENRAGING |
| 03:57.22 | amro | Kraps: give them a break, it wasn't bush :P |
| 03:59.23 | Lulia | I guess what confuses me is that I'm used to sequential coding, where it runs until it's done with the sequence. I mean, you can make while loops to make it run for indefinite periods. |
| 03:59.36 | Lulia | But I'm not used to have blocks of code that just fire on events. |
| 03:59.57 | Yssaril | Lulia: its still sequential overall |
| 04:00.18 | Mirrormn | *everything* is still sequential overall, at some level |
| 04:00.33 | Yssaril | you can never have 2 peices of code running at the exact same time |
| 04:00.50 | Yssaril | Mirrormn: yea wtb better multicore support |
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| 04:01.10 | Lulia | Right, but... |
| 04:01.28 | Lulia | what I mean is, how do I define a "block" of lua script that only fires for an event? That seems odd to me. |
| 04:01.30 | Yssaril | they should have at least split the 3D thread from the UI thread imo |
| 04:01.47 | Mirrormn | yes, they should have |
| 04:01.47 | Yssaril | Lulia: functions :) |
| 04:01.55 | Mirrormn | lua functions are fun |
| 04:02.15 | Lulia | Alright, so |
| 04:02.27 | Lulia | If I place the registering for an event in the function.... |
| 04:02.46 | Yssaril | Lulia: read http://www.lua.org/pil/ everything you ever wanted to know about lua (most of it anyways) |
| 04:02.53 | Mirrormn | the only way to make a block of code fire on an event is to attach it to a frame |
| 04:03.07 | Mirrormn | and then SetScript("OnEvent", function) |
| 04:03.20 | Lulia | But you just showes me Lua earlier that was supposed to... |
| 04:03.37 | Mirrormn | that assumed you had a frame named Frame |
| 04:03.42 | Lulia | >.> |
| 04:03.56 | Lulia | So would I make a frame named something like: Power_Change? |
| 04:04.02 | Lulia | Just to run the UNIT_POWER event? |
| 04:04.09 | Yssaril | Lulia: http://www.wowpedia.org/Handling_events |
| 04:04.16 | Mirrormn | you can name it whatever you want |
| 04:04.53 | Lulia | Alright, see, in that link |
| 04:04.59 | Lulia | The XML example makes sense to me. |
| 04:05.09 | Lulia | It's a block of code which will fire whenever that event fires |
| 04:05.18 | Lulia | It references the Lua I want it to reference, etc... |
| 04:05.34 | Lulia | But the Lua isn't in a function |
| 04:05.38 | Mirrormn | well, the XML version just does the frame creation for you, essentially |
| 04:05.41 | Lulia | So it's not its own isolated block |
| 04:05.57 | Yssaril | in pure lua you can define a block of code as a function then you can tell the frame to call that function OnEvent |
| 04:06.22 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 04:06.27 | Lulia | So I have to make a frame in XML anyways? |
| 04:06.53 | Mirrormn | you'd have to put whatever you were doing inside a <Frame> tag |
| 04:07.24 | Mirrormn | the <Frame> is essentially what does the frame creation for you |
| 04:07.36 | Lulia | You guys head_desking-ing over my newbishness yet? :-/ |
| 04:08.00 | Mirrormn | that would hurt |
| 04:08.27 | Lulia | Is there hate towards me of any fashion? |
| 04:09.00 | Mirrormn | you're a lot better than, say, Mike-n-go |
| 04:09.03 | Mirrormn | hahaha |
| 04:10.02 | Lulia | I don't know who that is >.> |
| 04:10.12 | Lulia | <.< |
| 04:10.29 | Mirrormn | some silly nooby |
| 04:10.53 | Lulia | In my defense, I've never made an AddOn before |
| 04:11.13 | Mirrormn | I first saw him around when wowace and wowi were giving beta codes to a developer, he was basically hanging around in IRC trying to get people to tell him the easiest way he could write an addon in order to get into beta |
| 04:11.17 | Lulia | I -do- have scripting experience though. I'm confident in my potential, but.... I have to learn stuff first. The resources you guys have given me are great, thanks. |
| 04:11.56 | Lulia | This first hurdle is the biggest, I think |
| 04:12.09 | Lulia | Just figuring out how to manage the basics of creating a script in this system |
| 04:12.50 | Mirrormn | there are other challenges as well ^_^ |
| 04:12.51 | Lulia | If I create a Variable in one frame, it's global across all frames, yes? |
| 04:13.14 | Lulia | Certainly, but those are challenges I'll hopefully be equipped to deal with since I do have experience scripting |
| 04:13.20 | Mirrormn | what do you mean, create a variable in a frame? |
| 04:14.44 | Lulia | My first frame initializes the Curr_Player variable |
| 04:15.23 | Lulia | I figured I would keep that OnLoad event since it initializes all of the variable properties, then I can use a new frame which fires on the UNIT_POWER event and will update the variable whenever it changes |
| 04:15.38 | Lulia | So I have two frames. |
| 04:16.03 | Lulia | I just don't know what the scope of global is in this system? |
| 04:16.10 | Mirrormn | well, unless you used the "local" keyword, you probably created a global variable |
| 04:16.13 | Lulia | Is global within the frame, the xml file or WoW itself? |
| 04:16.24 | Lulia | Well yes, I know it's global :) |
| 04:16.25 | Mirrormn | in WoW, global variables are *completely* global |
| 04:16.27 | Yssaril | Lulia: variables are always global unelss you specify them to be local (however DO NOT EVER USE GLOBAL VARIABLES UNLESS YOU NEED TO AND ARE SURE NOBODY ELSE WILL USE THE SAME ONE) |
| 04:16.36 | Lulia | Ah |
| 04:16.37 | Mirrormn | yar, what Yssaril said |
| 04:16.41 | Lulia | Yes, that would create problems |
| 04:16.48 | Mirrormn | using Global variables is generally bad practice |
| 04:16.52 | Lulia | What if I want to share a variable across frames? |
| 04:16.53 | Yssaril | sorry for yelling but its that important :PP |
| 04:17.07 | Lulia | I imagine it would be if it's global to all of WoW |
| 04:17.23 | Mirrormn | frames are not really a unit of scoping |
| 04:17.28 | amro | Lulia: you can use a global table for your addon and keep your stuff there |
| 04:17.29 | Mirrormn | so you're being a little confusing |
| 04:17.43 | Lulia | Oh, yeah, what I'm using is actually a table. |
| 04:17.44 | amro | MyAddon = {}; MyAddon.someVar = 10 |
| 04:17.51 | Yssaril | Lulia: another nice thing about creating frames in lua you can set a variable local to the file and as such any thing in that file will have access to it |
| 04:17.53 | Lulia | The table is Curr_Player |
| 04:18.22 | amro | the name is confusing |
| 04:18.31 | Lulia | Why is that? |
| 04:18.36 | Lulia | It's literally the player |
| 04:18.38 | amro | you should only have 2 globals: your main addon table, and whatever table you're using for savedvariables if any |
| 04:18.45 | Lulia | Ah |
| 04:18.56 | Mirrormn | there are other times where it |
| 04:19.04 | Mirrormn | is appropriate to use Global variables |
| 04:19.11 | Mirrormn | but they're specific cases |
| 04:19.23 | Mirrormn | usually what amro said is best practice |
| 04:19.29 | Lulia | So I want Curr_Player to be a nested table of my "addon table" ? |
| 04:19.33 | amro | yes |
| 04:19.40 | Lulia | Right-o |
| 04:19.44 | amro | Addon.Curr_Player = {blah} |
| 04:19.46 | Lulia | does some fixes. |
| 04:20.10 | Mirrormn | well, it really depends on how accessible you need it to be |
| 04:20.35 | Lulia | Well |
| 04:20.50 | Mirrormn | if you need to share it between different .lua files, or if you want to be accessible from other addons or in-game scripts, putting it in Addon.Curr_Player is the best bet |
| 04:21.04 | Lulia | Curr_Player stores information on the Player's class and their max and current power values. |
| 04:21.17 | Mirrormn | but a lot of the time it's better to use local variables |
| 04:21.21 | Lulia | As well as how many power sources they have, since it's possible to have more than one. |
| 04:21.41 | Lulia | Since the Addon is going to use power across all of its functionality, I need it to be "global" |
| 04:22.04 | Mirrormn | fair enough |
| 04:22.22 | TC-Mobile | Shirk you bastard |
| 04:22.34 | Lulia | But, since I can nest tables, I can nest it inside PowerBars, which will be my global addon table |
| 04:22.50 | Lulia | How do people usually do their addon table and savedvariable table naming conventions? |
| 04:22.59 | Lulia | Just addon_sav for the saved variables? |
| 04:23.18 | amro | you can call it whatever, but AddonDB is common |
| 04:24.02 | TC-Mobile | Shirik |
| 04:24.07 | Lulia | Do I have to use bracket syntax to initialize a key, or can I use dot syntax throughout all of it? |
| 04:24.19 | amro | meaning? |
| 04:24.26 | Lulia | For instance: Power_Bars["Current Player"] = {}; |
| 04:24.30 | amro | oh |
| 04:24.35 | amro | you can use the dot syntax |
| 04:24.41 | Lulia | Can I make that Power_Bars.Current Player = {}; |
| 04:24.46 | Yssaril | yup |
| 04:24.47 | amro | no, the space breaks it |
| 04:24.50 | Lulia | Well |
| 04:24.50 | amro | don't use spaces |
| 04:24.56 | Lulia | yeah, I just realized the space |
| 04:24.58 | amro | PowerBars.CurrentPlayer |
| 04:25.01 | Lulia | but otherwise |
| 04:25.04 | amro | looks so much better im |
| 04:25.06 | amro | o |
| 04:25.14 | Yssaril | but if you want to do a.b.c.d = {} you would need to create each level one at a time |
| 04:25.17 | amro | but yeah, other than that it's essentially the same |
| 04:25.38 | Mirrormn | a = {}; a.b = {}; a.b.c = {}; a.b.c.d = "HI" |
| 04:26.11 | Lulia | I really like associative arrays |
| 04:26.21 | Lulia | I'm familiar with them from my MUD Client's scripting language |
| 04:26.38 | Mirrormn | lua tables |
| 04:26.40 | Mirrormn | are wonderful |
| 04:26.48 | Lulia | I think I agree |
| 04:27.01 | Mirrormn | yknow I used to hate Lua |
| 04:27.19 | Mirrormn | but I just didn't understand it! |
| 04:27.38 | Lulia | Funny thing is my MUD Client also allows Lua |
| 04:27.47 | Lulia | But, I didn't bother learning it because I didn't need to |
| 04:27.55 | Yssaril | yea lua on the surface is very simple till you dive into it it becomes a bottomless pit |
| 04:27.59 | Lulia | Now that I'm learning it, I can apply it back to my scripts in the MUD Client if I want |
| 04:28.23 | Amarande | Yssaril: I hear in the expansion after Cata they're changing to doing WoW scripting in Intercal |
| 04:28.55 | Lulia | Intercal? |
| 04:29.00 | Yssaril | Amarande: nice |
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| 04:29.15 | Lulia | What's Intercal? |
| 04:30.20 | Mirrormn | it's a slightly better programming language than Whitespace |
| 04:30.31 | Amarande | Lulia: concern for people's mental health prohibits me from describing Intercal in detail |
| 04:30.54 | Lulia | But you mean the entire addon community will need to rewrite their addons from scratch? |
| 04:31.09 | Mirrormn | it was just a joke ^_^ |
| 04:31.16 | Lulia | O.o |
| 04:31.22 | Lulia | I'm a newbie, it's not funny to me! |
| 04:31.32 | Lulia | Now I look silly |
| 04:31.55 | Yssaril | Lulia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTERCAL |
| 04:31.57 | Mirrormn | I had no idea what it was at first either, but I just flipped over to wikipedia ^_^ |
| 04:32.03 | Mirrormn | Backtracking INTERCAL, a modern variant, also allows variants using MAYBE (possibly combined with PLEASE or DO) as a statement identifier, which introduces a choice-point.[10] Before the identifier, an optional line number (an integer enclosed in parentheses) can be given; after the identifier, a percent chance of the line executing can be given in the format %50, which defaults to 100%. |
| 04:32.11 | Mirrormn | I like that part |
| 04:32.25 | Lulia | If my table is global I dont need to pass it into the function... |
| 04:32.39 | Lulia | Do I even need to have the function return anything? |
| 04:32.45 | Lulia | If it just works on the table directly? |
| 04:32.48 | Mirrormn | nope |
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| 04:33.16 | Mirrormn | and you can't pass it into the function, actually, if you're using it for an event trigger |
| 04:33.27 | Lulia | So a lot of my functions wont have any arguments or return values? |
| 04:33.31 | Mirrormn | in that case, the wow environment will do the function call and will provide the argument |
| 04:33.38 | Mirrormn | *arguments |
| 04:33.48 | Mirrormn | yep |
| 04:33.58 | Lulia | Do I need to put a return in the function even if I'm not returning anything? |
| 04:34.00 | Yssaril | Amarande: i'm personaly infavor of them switching to Brainfuck (smaller compiler) :P |
| 04:34.03 | Mirrormn | nope |
| 04:34.46 | Mirrormn | lua is a very forgiving language |
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| 04:34.53 | Mirrormn | almost frighteningly forgiving at times |
| 04:35.39 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/article_16680_5-presidential-elections-even-dumber-than-this-one-somehow.html |
| 04:35.46 | Lulia | I'm using semi-colons after everything, but have noticed I don't need to |
| 04:36.03 | Lulia | Which makes me nervous that I might forget them at times and look like a dunce to a more experienced scripter |
| 04:36.14 | Mirrormn | yep |
| 04:36.16 | Mirrormn | hahaha |
| 04:36.20 | Lulia | They'll see like 90% of the lines ending in semi-colons and 10% of them, for no reason, not ending in semi-colons |
| 04:36.29 | Mirrormn | I still use semi-colons religiously in my code ^_^ |
| 04:37.13 | Mirrormn | not only does lua not need semicolons, it doesn't even need newlines |
| 04:37.27 | Mirrormn | and occasionally doesn't even need whitespace, I don't think |
| 04:37.44 | Lulia | lol, thisi s a mouthful: for i=1,PowerBar.CurrPlayer.Num_Pow do |
| 04:37.59 | Mirrormn | seems reasonable to me |
| 04:38.14 | Lulia | Now I'm questioning the underscore in Num_Pow |
| 04:38.16 | Lulia | Damn all of you! |
| 04:38.19 | Lulia | shakes fist. |
| 04:39.21 | Lulia | Oh, I have to use [] syntax for variables |
| 04:39.34 | Lulia | hmm |
| 04:39.40 | Mirrormn | yes |
| 04:40.05 | Lulia | combo breaker! |
| 04:40.07 | Lulia | How unfortunate |
| 04:40.35 | Mirrormn | you can even do such things as "for i=1,10 do Table["index"..i] = i end" |
| 04:41.19 | Lulia | :P |
| 04:41.50 | Mirrormn | one last thing before I go to bed |
| 04:42.00 | Mirrormn | this confused me for the longest longest time |
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| 04:42.47 | Mirrormn | "function Addon:whatever(arg1, arg2)" is just a shortcut for "function Addon.whatever(self, arg1, arg2)" |
| 04:43.13 | Lulia | Oh |
| 04:43.21 | Mirrormn | and |
| 04:43.22 | Lulia | I was looking through Power Auras and wonderign what that was |
| 04:43.42 | Lulia | Why does it need a self argument? |
| 04:43.53 | Mirrormn | the value passed to the self variable is always the Table upon which the function was called |
| 04:44.21 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: http://store.steampowered.com/app/35140 |
| 04:44.26 | Mirrormn | which leads to things like |
| 04:45.00 | Mirrormn | lua> Addon = {}; Addon.value = 10; function Addon:foo() print(self.value) end; Addon:foo() |
| 04:45.00 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: 10 |
| 04:45.53 | Mirrormn | the short answer as to "why" is that it basically provides an analogy for Object-Oriented programming |
| 04:45.58 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 04:46.09 | Lulia | PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Max = UnitPowerMax("Player", PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Type); |
| 04:46.15 | Lulia | Does that look correct? |
| 04:46.48 | Mirrormn | mmm, sure |
| 04:46.52 | Lulia | lol |
| 04:47.04 | Lulia | I just mean mixing the dot syntax with the bracket syntax |
| 04:47.11 | Lulia | As long as that's fine :) |
| 04:47.16 | Mirrormn | oh, yeah |
| 04:47.24 | Mirrormn | the table access syntax is fine |
| 04:47.53 | Lulia | then the rest should be fine too ;) |
| 04:48.00 | Mirrormn | I'm honestly a little confused as to why you need to store all this Power data in the first place |
| 04:48.33 | Lulia | The addon will eventually use it for frames for power stuff |
| 04:48.34 | Mirrormn | my inclination would be to just ask WoW for that information at the time it needs to be used |
| 04:48.45 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 04:48.52 | Lulia | It may evolve that way |
| 04:49.03 | Lulia | I just figured storing the info was a good way of getting into all of this |
| 04:49.19 | Mirrormn | nothing wrong with that |
| 04:49.26 | Lulia | :) |
| 04:49.59 | Lulia | The Addon will, when it's done, allow the user to display Class-appropriate power images for their power stuff |
| 04:50.05 | Lulia | I currently use Power Auras to do it |
| 04:50.13 | Lulia | But I figured it would be a neat addon to start with |
| 04:50.31 | Mirrormn | pish posh, Power Auras |
| 04:50.31 | Lulia | Since I wanted a bit more functionality with the class power stuff, and it makes it easier to share with others. |
| 04:50.46 | Mirrormn | WeakAuras is so much cooler ^_^ |
| 04:50.53 | Lulia | :P |
| 04:52.37 | Lulia | hmm |
| 04:52.45 | Lulia | apparently type in lower case is a reserved word |
| 04:53.37 | Lulia | Can you use string.format in message() ? I've been using ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 04:54.31 | Mirrormn | type in lower case is a predefined function, but you can temporarily overwrite it with locals named type |
| 04:54.36 | Mirrormn | I do that all the time |
| 04:54.44 | Lulia | I see |
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| 04:55.02 | Mirrormn | oh, here's a cool time for : notation ^_^ |
| 04:55.13 | Mirrormn | instead of using string.format("whatever string") |
| 04:55.14 | Lulia | man, I keep typing this long string of nested tables |
| 04:55.21 | Lulia | I'm tempted to put it in a local variable |
| 04:55.27 | Mirrormn | you can do ("whatever string"):format() |
| 04:55.45 | Lulia | Well, the string isn't in a variable |
| 04:55.56 | Mirrormn | neither is that one |
| 04:56.22 | Mirrormn | lua> print(("whatever string %s"):format("I want")) |
| 04:56.23 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: whatever string I want |
| 04:56.52 | Lulia | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(string.format("%s: %d/%d", PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Name, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Curr, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Max)); |
| 04:56.56 | Lulia | Is what I'm doing |
| 04:57.02 | Lulia | So you're saying I can make that into... |
| 04:57.16 | Mirrormn | although you do have to use parantheses around your string if you want to use a string library method on it |
| 04:57.39 | Lulia | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(("%s: %d/%d").format(PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Name, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Curr, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Max)); |
| 04:57.47 | Lulia | oops |
| 04:57.53 | Mirrormn | need to use : not . |
| 04:57.53 | Lulia | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(("%s: %d/%d"):format(PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Name, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Curr, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Max)); |
| 04:57.55 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 04:58.08 | Lulia | Sweet, that's neat |
| 04:58.22 | Lulia | see what I mean about typing the same thing over and over though? Ugh |
| 04:58.35 | Jamash | where's a list of boss sound files in wow? |
| 04:59.30 | Mirrormn | you could also do "local currdata = PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow]; print(("%s: %d/%d"):format(currdata.Name, currdata.Curr, currdata.Max));" |
| 04:59.38 | amro | ^ |
| 04:59.57 | Lulia | Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing |
| 05:00.05 | Lulia | The question is: is that frowned upon? |
| 05:00.10 | Lulia | I mean, it's creating another variable |
| 05:00.13 | Mirrormn | nope |
| 05:00.15 | Lulia | Just for the sake of typing less |
| 05:00.17 | Mirrormn | it's encouraged, actually |
| 05:00.25 | Lulia | It makes it much more readable |
| 05:00.26 | Mirrormn | local variables are more efficient |
| 05:00.35 | Mirrormn | here's the thing |
| 05:00.46 | Mirrormn | global variables are kept in their own table |
| 05:00.50 | Mirrormn | called _G |
| 05:01.09 | Mirrormn | whenever you use a global variable, Lua has to look up that variable in the _G table |
| 05:01.32 | Mirrormn | which takes some non-zero amount of processing time, especially if you have a million global variables |
| 05:01.55 | Mirrormn | and the default WoW UI defines plenty of global variables |
| 05:02.13 | Mirrormn | so it's actually more efficient to make local copies of things whenever you can |
| 05:02.33 | Lulia | Okay |
| 05:02.36 | Lulia | Oh, hmm |
| 05:02.43 | Lulia | For some reason it's not seeing my "then" |
| 05:02.44 | Lulia | :( |
| 05:02.45 | Mirrormn | that may be more than you needed to know ^_^ |
| 05:02.54 | Lulia | if PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Type != 0 then ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Resource Change:"); ChatFrame1:AddMessage(("%s: %d/%d"):format(PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Name, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Curr, PowerBar.CurrPlayer[CurrPow].Max)); end |
| 05:03.09 | Lulia | It's giving me an error saying there's an expected "then" after the ! |
| 05:03.21 | Mirrormn | != is not the corract syntax |
| 05:03.26 | Mirrormn | it should be ~= |
| 05:03.27 | Lulia | Oh! |
| 05:03.29 | Lulia | :-/ |
| 05:03.39 | Lulia | I've always known it as !=, sorry! |
| 05:03.39 | Mirrormn | I dunno why that is |
| 05:03.43 | Mirrormn | yeah, me too |
| 05:03.58 | Mirrormn | at first I though ~= meant approximately equal, somehow |
| 05:04.04 | Lulia | I didn't even think I'd need to look it up, I just assumed |
| 05:04.09 | Mirrormn | indeed |
| 05:04.37 | Mirrormn | like maybe "string" ~= "String" would return true, or 1.0000000000001 ~= 1 |
| 05:04.46 | Mirrormn | not the case! |
| 05:05.03 | Lulia | :P |
| 05:05.19 | Lulia | Yay, I got a different error saying PowerBars was a nil value |
| 05:05.21 | Lulia | Grrrr |
| 05:05.47 | Lulia | Screw WoW1 |
| 05:06.54 | Mirrormn | blah, I really need to go to bed |
| 05:06.59 | Lulia | Aww |
| 05:07.24 | Lulia | Night.. |
| 05:07.32 | Lulia | Now to figure out why it isn't seeing my PowerBars var |
| 05:07.48 | Lulia | well, table |
| 05:09.03 | Yssaril | Lulia: just to save you the trouble look out when comparing numbers in lua since there are no integers only floats what you think is 1 == 1 may not be |
| 05:09.23 | Lulia | O.o |
| 05:10.03 | Lulia | Fun |
| 05:13.35 | Lulia | So, I have two frames, we'll call them Frame A and Frame B |
| 05:13.43 | Lulia | PowerBars is initialized in Frame A |
| 05:14.00 | Lulia | Frame B calls a function in a lua file which uses PowerBars |
| 05:14.08 | Lulia | WoW tells me that PowerBars is nil |
| 05:15.52 | Lulia | If it's my understanding that the table I made in Frame A is global, shouldn't Frame B be able to see it, and any function in any lua file I have? |
| 05:16.59 | amro | Frames are not scopes |
| 05:17.12 | amro | what do you mean by initialized in Frame A? |
| 05:17.52 | Lulia | <Frame name="Power_Frame"> <Scripts> <OnLoad> PowerBars = {} PowerBars.CurrPlayer = {}; PowerBars.CurrPlayer = GetCurrPlayerInfo(); </OnLoad> </Scripts> </Frame> <Frame name="Power_Change"> <Scripts> <OnLoad> self:RegisterEvent("UNIT_POWER"); </OnLoad> <OnEvent> GetChangePower(); </OnEvent> </Scripts> </Frame> |
| 05:19.16 | Lulia | You guys are probably looking at that going "wtf is this guy doing?", huh? |
| 05:19.19 | Lulia | :-/ |
| 05:20.09 | Mirror|peelS | I am! |
| 05:20.28 | Lulia | You're supposed to be asleep |
| 05:20.32 | Mirror|peelS | I know -.- |
| 05:21.27 | Lulia | The first frame is just to initialize the stuff |
| 05:21.41 | Lulia | The second frame is to change it whenever UNIT_POWER fires |
| 05:21.58 | Lulia | Because that's my newbish understanding of how I should do it |
| 05:22.02 | Lulia | Please don't hurt me :( |
| 05:22.34 | Mirror|peelS | I honestly don't even know how scoping works when you try to define scripts within an XML file |
| 05:22.47 | Mirror|peelS | but I'm betting it treats each block like a totally separate file |
| 05:24.32 | Lulia | Oh no :( |
| 05:25.13 | Mirror|peelS | is actually asleep now |
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| 06:05.27 | Lulia|2 | Test |
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| 06:08.59 | brandonjviles | test? |
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| 06:28.09 | Jerub | if i wanted to do a traceroute to check latency, and i'm on US servers, what hostname do i traceroute? |
| 06:31.52 | amro | Jerub: http://www.wowpedia.org/US_realm_list_by_datacenter |
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| 07:25.46 | Lulia | Still there, amro? |
| 07:25.53 | amro | maybe |
| 07:27.08 | Lulia | http://paste.wowace.com/2669/ |
| 07:27.19 | Lulia | Just curious if those are equivalent |
| 07:27.34 | Lulia | It's replacing a use of "self" with a frame:function() |
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| 07:29.39 | Lulia | >.>, I scared amro |
| 07:29.50 | amro | no I have a shitty connection |
| 07:29.52 | amro | it's still loading |
| 07:30.07 | Lulia | That sucks |
| 07:30.14 | Lulia | I'd paste it here, but apparently that's frowned upon |
| 07:30.19 | Lulia | It's not a very big code block |
| 07:31.17 | amro | DNS is down here |
| 07:31.18 | amro | Error 105 (net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED): The server could not be found. |
| 07:31.23 | amro | but uh |
| 07:31.27 | Lulia | lol |
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| 07:31.31 | amro | : is just shorthand notation |
| 07:31.45 | amro | obj:method(foo) is the same as obj.method(obj, foo) |
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| 07:46.42 | zenzio | "This is caused partially in part because (...)" |
| 07:47.38 | amro | zenzio: nested parts! |
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| 08:23.16 | Napoleone | morning |
| 08:23.31 | Napoleone | anyone played around with the new center hud crap? |
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| 08:56.07 | zenzio | "What will Kerrigan wear in Furry of the Storm" |
| 08:56.39 | Kalroth | hot |
| 08:57.49 | industrial | INTO THE FIRES OF FOREVER WE WILL FLY THROUGH THE HEAVENS |
| 08:57.58 | industrial | WITH THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSE WE STAND STRONG TOGETHER |
| 08:58.08 | industrial | air guitar |
| 09:09.22 | Fisker | industrial |
| 09:09.24 | Fisker | you are a bitch |
| 09:10.53 | Kalroth | dont listen to Fisker, he is the bitch, not you! |
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| 09:45.03 | zenzio | http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/21/political-pictures-haters-dont-hate-buddhists/ |
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| 10:39.04 | Jamash | zenzio: :D |
| 10:39.32 | Jamash | does the noble eightfold path dance. |
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| 10:55.47 | foxlit | Gah, Lua. |
| 10:56.05 | foxlit | Now every time I want to concatenate strings in PHP I get a syntax error |
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| 11:03.03 | Shirik | HI |
| 11:03.17 | Shirik | For some reason to get to California from Florida I am stopping in North Carolina |
| 11:03.18 | foxlit | hi |
| 11:03.20 | Shirik | sup |
| 11:06.01 | Shirik | okbye |
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| 11:22.41 | Flowy | is there addon that itterates a table and shows it in UI? if I dont want to see it in chatframe because its too big |
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| 11:52.59 | Flowy | for what is there ; on end of a line? |
| 11:53.21 | Jamash | Flowy: LuaBrowser |
| 11:53.31 | Flowy | ~LuaBrowser |
| 11:53.41 | Flowy | ~wiki LuaBrowser |
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| 11:53.54 | Flowy | what luabrowser is? |
| 11:53.54 | Jamash | !addon LuaBrowser |
| 11:53.55 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'LuaBrowser': http://is.gd/gcHo7 |
| 11:54.06 | Jamash | odd |
| 11:54.27 | Flowy | is it in pil? |
| 11:54.58 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12970-LuaBrowser.html |
| 11:55.05 | Jamash | it's an addon |
| 11:56.38 | Flowy | Jamash you mean my first question? |
| 11:56.43 | Jamash | yes |
| 11:57.16 | Flowy | thanks |
| 11:57.27 | Flowy | and for what is there ";" on the end of a line? |
| 11:57.53 | Jamash | you can use ; to separate multiple expressions on a single line |
| 11:57.59 | Jamash | at the end of a line it doesn't do anything |
| 11:58.16 | Maldivia | don't need it to seperate multiple expressions though |
| 11:58.25 | Jamash | but C and C++ programmers sometimes put ; at the end of lines out of habit |
| 11:58.43 | Jamash | lua> local a = 1 print(a) |
| 11:58.43 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1 |
| 11:58.48 | Jamash | interesting |
| 11:58.50 | Maldivia | lua> a=1 b=2 c=3 print(a,b,c) |
| 11:58.50 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 1, 2, 3 |
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| 11:59.08 | Flowy | ok thanks ... dont want to be missing something and then rewriting |
| 11:59.39 | Maldivia | semicolon can make multiple statements on the same line easier to read though |
| 11:59.58 | Jamash | I guess that's all it's for |
| 12:00.41 | Jamash | strange |
| 12:01.04 | Jamash | yeah, according to the official syntax the semicolon is optional |
| 12:01.42 | Jamash | learn something new every day |
| 12:01.54 | Jamash | so I'm looking for a way to easily export a large table from wow |
| 12:02.12 | Jamash | I could dump it into a saved variable and open the lua file in a text editor |
| 12:02.40 | Jamash | but I'm wondering how difficult it is to open a text window so I can copy and paste |
| 12:02.47 | Maldivia | it's easy |
| 12:03.13 | Jamash | ok, which widget would you use? |
| 12:04.18 | Maldivia | EditBox |
| 12:04.29 | Maldivia | with multiLine=true |
| 12:04.35 | Jamash | all righty |
| 12:04.42 | Maldivia | and letters set to a high value :) |
| 12:04.57 | Jamash | indeed |
| 12:05.26 | Jamash | ok, I'll noodle around with that, thanks |
| 12:05.27 | Maldivia | if you're really lazy, to go a mail box, select new, and then /run SendMailBodyEditBox:SetText("blah") |
| 12:05.33 | Jamash | heh |
| 12:06.13 | Maldivia | hmm, a bit of yoda style "go to" there :) |
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| 12:14.40 | Flowy | Jamash NotesUNeed addon have implement for lua |
| 12:15.32 | Jamash | what? |
| 12:16.13 | mitch0 | google translate is acting up |
| 12:18.43 | Wobin | wtf |
| 12:18.48 | Wobin | Bloodline Champions? |
| 12:18.51 | Wobin | what is this? >< |
| 12:19.22 | Computerpunk | Isn't it outdated, jamash? |
| 12:19.25 | Computerpunk | Lua Browser. |
| 12:19.41 | Jamash | it works fine for me |
| 12:19.54 | Computerpunk | Didn't say it doesn't work. |
| 12:20.03 | Jamash | if you know of another addon with similar functionality that's updated for 4.x let me know |
| 12:20.19 | Computerpunk | Development AddOns. |
| 12:20.21 | Wobin | looks like Funcom's attempt at a pure pvp mmorpg |
| 12:20.26 | Computerpunk | are not around the corner. |
| 12:20.47 | Jamash | Development AddOns? |
| 12:21.25 | Computerpunk | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/categories/development-tools.aspx |
| 12:21.57 | Jamash | I am aware that curse.com exists, yes |
| 12:22.20 | Computerpunk | I linked you what I meant. |
| 12:22.21 | Computerpunk | :P |
| 12:22.42 | Jamash | I meant if you knew of a specific addon that specifically does what LuaBrowser does, let me know |
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| 12:28.04 | Computerpunk | ckk having fun sleeping |
| 12:28.05 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 12:28.25 | Flowy | can I define table like this? |
| 12:28.26 | Flowy | local t = { arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, arg12 = ... } |
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| 12:29.47 | Computerpunk | uhm... |
| 12:29.58 | Computerpunk | Flowy,: |
| 12:30.06 | Computerpunk | lua> local t = { arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, arg12 = ... } print(t) |
| 12:30.06 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: table: 0xa02e778 |
| 12:30.08 | Computerpunk | yep, you can. |
| 12:30.09 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 12:30.24 | Jamash | you're better off simply doing local t = {...} |
| 12:30.26 | Computerpunk | Now... Curse is being racist. |
| 12:30.47 | Jamash | what you wrote will not do what you think |
| 12:30.49 | Computerpunk | And calling by t[1-12] |
| 12:31.14 | Computerpunk | addon tags: wotlk Nazi |
| 12:31.54 | Computerpunk | <Computerpunk> And calling by t[1-12] |
| 12:31.59 | Computerpunk | s/calling/accessing/ |
| 12:32.09 | Jamash | if you really, really want named table keys instead of integer keys you would write t={}; t.arg1, t.arg2, t.arg3 = ... |
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| 12:33.41 | Flowy | Jamash its just for debug |
| 12:33.50 | Jamash | okay |
| 12:33.57 | Flowy | Im lazy to write print(argX) for 12 times :D |
| 12:34.07 | Jamash | well then write print(...) |
| 12:34.15 | Jamash | skip the table |
| 12:34.34 | Flowy | can I have each parameter separated? |
| 12:34.46 | Flowy | I want to have it on another line ... or just adding comment |
| 12:35.16 | Flowy | (autogenerated - like "argX : " |
| 12:35.18 | Flowy | ) |
| 12:35.30 | Legorol | for i = 1, 12 do print(_G["arg"..i]) end |
| 12:35.48 | Legorol | is that what you mean? |
| 12:36.06 | Legorol | hm, that wouldn't actually work, argX are not global anymore |
| 12:36.06 | Jamash | lua> function p(...) for i = 1, select('#', ...) do print((select('#', ...)) end; p(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 12:36.06 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 12:36.09 | Jamash | derp |
| 12:36.10 | Flowy | Legorol thanks :) that I have wrote now but I was thinking about what it do when it dont work |
| 12:36.20 | Jamash | lua> function p(...) for i = 1, select('#', ...) do print((select('#', ...))) end; p(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 12:36.21 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 12:36.26 | Jamash | rage |
| 12:36.32 | Jamash | lua> function p(...) for i = 1, select('#', ...) do print((select('#', ...)))end end; p(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 12:36.32 | lua_bot | Jamash: 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7 |
| 12:36.36 | Legorol | lol |
| 12:36.37 | Jamash | darp |
| 12:36.45 | Jamash | lua> function p(...) for i = 1, select('#', ...) do print((select(i, ...)))end end; p(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 12:36.45 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
| 12:36.48 | Jamash | YAY |
| 12:37.04 | Jamash | lua> function p(...) for i = 1, select('#', ...) do print(select(i, ...))end end; p(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) |
| 12:37.04 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 4, 5, 6, 7, 5, 6, 7, 6, 7, 7 |
| 12:37.23 | Jamash | yeah notice the double parentheses in the first expression around the second select |
| 12:37.31 | Legorol | yes the double parens are important |
| 12:37.49 | Jamash | select(1, ...) returns all values from 1 onward |
| 12:38.05 | Jamash | (select(1, ...)) returns just the first value |
| 12:38.14 | Jamash | one of Lua's odd quirks |
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| 12:38.29 | foxlit | Wouldn't call it odd :) |
| 12:38.34 | Jamash | I would |
| 12:38.36 | Jamash | and I do |
| 12:38.37 | Legorol | Jamash: it's not an odd quirk actually, it's part of how lists work in general |
| 12:38.38 | Jamash | it's odd |
| 12:38.41 | Computerpunk | wait, wat? |
| 12:38.41 | Computerpunk | o_O |
| 12:38.45 | Computerpunk | I didn't know that. |
| 12:38.48 | Jamash | The way lists work in general in Lua is odd. |
| 12:38.48 | Flowy | what select("#", ...) does? |
| 12:38.51 | Computerpunk | <Jamash> select(1, ...) returns all values from 1 onward |
| 12:38.51 | Computerpunk | <Jamash> (select(1, ...)) returns just the first value |
| 12:39.07 | Legorol | Computerpunk: it's more instructive if someone explains the general case |
| 12:39.10 | Jamash | select ('#', ...) gets the number of arguments contained in ... |
| 12:39.13 | Humbedooh | well not really, Computerpunk :p |
| 12:39.30 | Humbedooh | it returns 'em all but just crops away the rest :) |
| 12:39.38 | Computerpunk | I know what it does now. |
| 12:39.44 | Jamash | so if you call p(9,4,6) then select('#', ...) will be 3 |
| 12:39.44 | Computerpunk | But, still, weird that it returns all elements |
| 12:39.51 | Computerpunk | .When you do select(1, ...) |
| 12:39.56 | Jamash | lists in lua are fubar |
| 12:40.01 | Humbedooh | it has its purposes |
| 12:40.03 | Jamash | I will demonstrate |
| 12:40.11 | Legorol | Computerpunk: putting a bracket around a list truncates the list and discards everything but the first value |
| 12:40.12 | Computerpunk | selectAfter(1, ...) |
| 12:40.13 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 12:40.13 | Legorol | for example: |
| 12:40.19 | Computerpunk | Legorol, I understood that. |
| 12:40.20 | Legorol | lua> a, b = 1, 2 print(a,b) |
| 12:40.20 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2 |
| 12:40.23 | foxlit | [only if you're coming form a language with actual lists] |
| 12:40.30 | Legorol | lua> a, b = (1, 2) print (a,b) |
| 12:40.30 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 12:40.32 | Computerpunk | a, b = (1, 2) print(a, b |
| 12:40.33 | foxlit | [if you're coming from C, it's a bliss!] |
| 12:40.33 | Legorol | gah |
| 12:40.35 | Computerpunk | qq |
| 12:40.45 | Computerpunk | foxlit, C++ background. |
| 12:40.46 | Legorol | lua> a, b = 1, 2, nil print (a,b) |
| 12:40.46 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2 |
| 12:40.54 | Legorol | lua> a, b = (1, 2), nil print (a,b) |
| 12:40.54 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 12:41.01 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 12:41.02 | Legorol | hmm |
| 12:41.08 | Computerpunk | Doesn't work for assignemnt I suppose. |
| 12:41.13 | Legorol | of course it does |
| 12:41.19 | foxlit | parse error |
| 12:41.20 | Jamash | lua> function wtf (...) print("hi", select(1,...), "there", select(1,...)) end wtf("lua", "is", "weird") |
| 12:41.20 | lua_bot | Jamash: hi, lua, there, lua, is, weird |
| 12:41.21 | Legorol | it's a general rule, i'm just getting the syntax wrong |
| 12:41.22 | Computerpunk | then why is it failing prsing |
| 12:41.29 | Legorol | lua> a, b = (1, 2), nil; print (a,b); |
| 12:41.29 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 12:41.32 | Jamash | EXPLAIN THAT |
| 12:41.36 | foxlit | Language syntax, easily |
| 12:41.37 | Humbedooh | lua> a,b = (select(1, 1,2,3)) print(a,b); |
| 12:41.37 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 1, nil |
| 12:41.42 | foxlit | it's <varlist> = <exprlist> |
| 12:41.48 | foxlit | Comma is not an operator as such |
| 12:41.56 | foxlit | so (a, b) is meaningless. |
| 12:42.13 | Humbedooh | indeedy |
| 12:42.16 | Computerpunk | I understood Humbedooh, Legorol, ty. |
| 12:42.26 | Jamash | [SERVER] Restart in 4:15 |
| 12:42.32 | Legorol | oh i know what i was trying to do |
| 12:42.59 | Jamash | lua> a = b = 3 print(a,b) |
| 12:42.59 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '=' |
| 12:43.05 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 1, 2 end; a, b = derp() print(a,b) |
| 12:43.05 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2 |
| 12:43.05 | Jamash | no chaining assignments |
| 12:43.10 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 1, 2 end; a, b = (derp()) print(a,b) |
| 12:43.10 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil |
| 12:43.12 | Legorol | there you go |
| 12:43.14 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 12:43.17 | Computerpunk | yeah, thanks. :D |
| 12:43.23 | Humbedooh | lua> a = (b=2); |
| 12:43.23 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: luabot:1: ')' expected near '=' |
| 12:43.24 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 1, 2 end; a, b = (derp()), nil print(a,b) |
| 12:43.24 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil |
| 12:43.28 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 1, 2 end; a, b = derp(), nil print(a,b) |
| 12:43.29 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil |
| 12:43.34 | Computerpunk | Need to learn more PHP >_< |
| 12:43.37 | Humbedooh | derp? o'rly? |
| 12:43.40 | Jamash | less php |
| 12:43.40 | Legorol | right, now it works |
| 12:43.50 | Computerpunk | Jamash, why? |
| 12:44.00 | Computerpunk | ALSO, WTB. |
| 12:44.04 | Legorol | so here is the final example: |
| 12:44.04 | Jamash | cause php is an abomination? |
| 12:44.11 | Humbedooh | Legorol> there's a logic to that :p |
| 12:44.13 | Computerpunk | CurseForge.com bug fixup to Donation info. |
| 12:44.19 | Legorol | this: |
| 12:44.19 | Computerpunk | That's like the worst place to be bugged. |
| 12:44.21 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 2, 3 end; a, b, c = 1, derp() print(a,b,c) |
| 12:44.21 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2, 3 |
| 12:44.22 | Legorol | vs |
| 12:44.28 | Flowy | lua> t={2} print(#t) print(#(t)) |
| 12:44.29 | lua_bot | Flowy: 1, 1 |
| 12:44.29 | Legorol | lua> function derp () return 2, 3 end; a, b, c = 1, (derp()) print(a,b,c) |
| 12:44.29 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2, nil |
| 12:44.32 | Legorol | thre we go |
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| 12:44.56 | Computerpunk | lua> t = { 1, 2, 3 } print(#t) print(#(t)) |
| 12:44.56 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: 3, 3 |
| 12:44.57 | Jamash | function call return lists are truncated unless they're the last thing in the list |
| 12:45.03 | Legorol | Humbedooh: i know the logic :) and i even know why it's implemented this way |
| 12:45.04 | Computerpunk | You're not doing anything special there flowy. |
| 12:45.18 | Computerpunk | In our case, derp isn't returning a table, but multiple variables. |
| 12:45.24 | Computerpunk | lists, w/e. |
| 12:45.33 | Humbedooh | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,n=10} print(#t) |
| 12:45.33 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 4 |
| 12:45.34 | Computerpunk | Jesus, Christ. |
| 12:45.46 | Computerpunk | #t returns integer pairs |
| 12:45.51 | Computerpunk | not the hash pairs. |
| 12:45.58 | Jamash | lua> function darp () return 1,2 end print(darp(), darp()) |
| 12:45.58 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1, 1, 2 |
| 12:46.07 | Legorol | lua> a, b = (unpack({1, 2})) print(a,b) |
| 12:46.07 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil |
| 12:46.11 | Legorol | lua> a, b = unpack({1, 2}) print(a,b) |
| 12:46.11 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, 2 |
| 12:46.17 | Jamash | unpack is magical |
| 12:46.19 | Legorol | it's not |
| 12:46.25 | Jamash | yes it is |
| 12:46.26 | Legorol | the example i just did is exactly the same thing as before |
| 12:46.31 | Computerpunk | Bloodmyst Isle is such a pain to explore. |
| 12:46.38 | Legorol | unpack is just a function that returns multiple values |
| 12:46.42 | Jamash | write a function that does what unpack does in lua without using unpack |
| 12:46.51 | Jamash | hint: you can't |
| 12:46.56 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 12:46.58 | Jamash | ergo, unpack is magical |
| 12:47.03 | Legorol | lol |
| 12:47.03 | Flowy | Computerpunk just testing if # works as function or just prefix ... |
| 12:47.11 | Legorol | there are many functions that you can't write in Lua, Jamash |
| 12:47.13 | Computerpunk | Flowy, prefix. ;D |
| 12:47.14 | Legorol | that's a poor argument |
| 12:47.17 | Legorol | all the io functions for example |
| 12:47.19 | Flowy | and function too |
| 12:47.29 | Computerpunk | lua> print(type(#)) |
| 12:47.29 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ')' |
| 12:47.35 | Jamash | # is not a function |
| 12:47.35 | Humbedooh | Jamash: then by your logic, most standard functions are magical :\ |
| 12:47.43 | Grum | not really |
| 12:47.46 | Computerpunk | lua> print(type(_G.#)) |
| 12:47.46 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '#' |
| 12:47.48 | Computerpunk | see? |
| 12:47.48 | Computerpunk | :P |
| 12:47.49 | Grum | most you can implement without using the function |
| 12:47.52 | Computerpunk | Not-a-function. |
| 12:47.54 | Flowy | then why I can pass it parameters in () and it have return? |
| 12:48.07 | Jamash | lua> print(type(_G["#"])) |
| 12:48.07 | lua_bot | Jamash: nil |
| 12:48.20 | Jamash | you're not passing it parameters |
| 12:48.27 | Legorol | Jamash: you haven't said anything interesting, all you have said is that there is no way to generate variable number of return values without using ... |
| 12:48.31 | Jamash | you're putting a truncated list in front of it |
| 12:48.45 | Jamash | or unpack |
| 12:48.49 | Legorol | or that |
| 12:48.54 | Humbedooh | aaaanywho, I got kids to feed, off I go. |
| 12:48.55 | Jamash | unpack is magical |
| 12:48.57 | Grum | unpack and ... are magic :) |
| 12:48.58 | Legorol | :) |
| 12:49.32 | Flowy | lua> t={5,5,5,5} print(#t, #(t)) |
| 12:49.32 | lua_bot | Flowy: 4, 4 |
| 12:49.34 | Legorol | more generally speaking: you can't create a list with variable number of entries without using unpack or ... |
| 12:49.41 | Jamash | exactly |
| 12:49.46 | Legorol | but.. |
| 12:49.49 | Flowy | where it is truncated? |
| 12:49.56 | Legorol | you also can't yield a thread without yield :P |
| 12:50.07 | Computerpunk | [Explore Kalimdor] |
| 12:50.10 | Jamash | we're talking about different things |
| 12:50.15 | Computerpunk | inb4 Insane in the Membrane. |
| 12:50.16 | Jamash | you're talking about side effects |
| 12:50.20 | Jamash | I'm talking about magic |
| 12:50.23 | Legorol | lol |
| 12:50.56 | Jamash | obviously any function that has external side effects can't be written in pure side-effect-less lua |
| 12:50.58 | Legorol | lua> a, b = (1, 2) print(a,b) |
| 12:50.58 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 12:51.18 | Jamash | anyway, flowy, to answer your question |
| 12:51.20 | Legorol | lua> function derp() return 1, 2 end a, b = (derp()) print(a,b) |
| 12:51.21 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1, nil |
| 12:51.25 | Legorol | this distinction annoys me |
| 12:51.33 | Legorol | why can't it parse (1,2) |
| 12:52.03 | Legorol | i guess it's ambiguous |
| 12:52.07 | Computerpunk | constants? |
| 12:52.09 | Computerpunk | prolly cause of that |
| 12:52.19 | Computerpunk | proabbly it's expecting function before (1, 2) |
| 12:52.47 | Jamash | lua> function foo(...) print(#..., #(...)) foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 12:52.47 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>' |
| 12:52.52 | Jamash | lua> function foo(...) print(#..., #(...)) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 12:52.52 | lua_bot | Jamash: 3, 3 |
| 12:52.57 | Jamash | hmm |
| 12:53.08 | Jamash | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 12:53.54 | Flowy | what it have same return ... |
| 12:54.36 | Jamash | well anyway, #... and #(...) both take the first element of ... as a table and returns its length |
| 12:55.16 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/2_1_jesus.jpg |
| 12:55.27 | Jamash | ha |
| 12:56.52 | Jamash | the reason #(t) gives the same answer as #t is that #(t) is not truncating t, it's truncating a list of one item which is a reference to t |
| 12:57.29 | Jamash | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',...), select(#'(...)) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 12:57.29 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 12:57.30 | Jamash | bah |
| 12:57.34 | Jamash | hit enter by mistake |
| 12:58.01 | Jamash | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',...), select('#', (...)) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6},7,8,9) |
| 12:58.01 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 12:58.06 | Jamash | rage |
| 12:58.20 | Jamash | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',...), select('#', (...))) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6},7,8,9) |
| 12:58.20 | lua_bot | Jamash: 5, 1 |
| 12:58.25 | Jamash | tada |
| 12:58.59 | Jamash | a list is not the same thing as a table, as I shall now demonstrate |
| 12:59.39 | Legorol | Jamash: i'm a bit confused by that above example |
| 12:59.41 | Jamash | lua> function f()return 1,2,3 end print(f, #f) |
| 12:59.41 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: attempt to get length of global 'f' (a function value) |
| 12:59.51 | Jamash | lua> function f()return 1,2,3 end print(f(), #f()) |
| 12:59.51 | lua_bot | Jamash: luabot:1: attempt to get length of a number value |
| 12:59.53 | Legorol | if i understand it right, you are passing 5 values in to foo: (table1, table2, 7, 8, 9) |
| 13:00.01 | Jamash | yes |
| 13:00.10 | Legorol | so '#' is of course 5, the number of elements |
| 13:00.15 | Jamash | lua> function f()return 1,2,3 end print(f()) |
| 13:00.15 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1, 2, 3 |
| 13:00.31 | Legorol | but i see select('#', (...)) as pointless.. |
| 13:00.31 | Computerpunk | lua> function f() return 1, 2, 3 end print((f()) |
| 13:00.31 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
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| 13:00.34 | Computerpunk | dayum |
| 13:00.38 | Legorol | a concatenated list always has 0 or 1 elements |
| 13:00.46 | Jamash | lua> function f()return 1,2,3 end t = {1, 2, 3} print(f()) print(t) |
| 13:00.46 | Legorol | what are you trying to demonstrate? |
| 13:00.46 | lua_bot | Jamash: 1, 2, 3, table: 0x812e750 |
| 13:00.48 | mikma | http://www.rlslog.net/mighty-mouse-the-new-adventures-complete-dvdrip-xvid-flair/ |
| 13:00.57 | Kraps | is 1.10% a good APY? |
| 13:01.07 | Flowy | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_(Full_List)#CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 13:01.17 | Flowy | do anyone know wha there is arg10 missing? |
| 13:01.17 | Jamash | I'm demonstrating that lists and tables are different |
| 13:01.33 | Legorol | Jamash: that is demonstrated by the first select. what is the second select demonstrating? |
| 13:01.52 | Legorol | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',...) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6},7,8,9) |
| 13:01.52 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 13:02.00 | Legorol | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',...)) end foo({1,2,3},{4,5,6},7,8,9) |
| 13:02.00 | lua_bot | Legorol: 5 |
| 13:02.06 | Legorol | this demonstrates that table is not list, which is fine |
| 13:02.18 | Legorol | lua> function foo(...) print(select('#',(...))) end foo(1, 2, 3) |
| 13:02.19 | lua_bot | Legorol: 1 |
| 13:02.28 | Legorol | and this demonstrates that the extra parens around ... cause truncation |
| 13:02.32 | Legorol | the two seem unrelated |
| 13:02.38 | Jamash | Flowy was asking why #(t) gives the same as #t |
| 13:03.01 | Legorol | right, for that the first select is the answer |
| 13:03.05 | Legorol | the second select is unrelated |
| 13:03.09 | Jamash | I forget |
| 13:03.13 | Legorol | ok nvm :) |
| 13:04.05 | Legorol | lua> a = #{1, 2, 3} b = #{(1, 2, 3)} print(a,b) |
| 13:04.05 | lua_bot | Legorol: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 13:04.12 | Legorol | pwnt |
| 13:04.35 | Legorol | lua> function derp() return 1, 2, 3 end a = #{derp()} b = #{(derp())} print(a,b) |
| 13:04.35 | lua_bot | Legorol: 3, 1 |
| 13:06.03 | Jamash | Flowy: I'm not sure |
| 13:06.05 | Flowy | its because you truncate the table ... you does what you want but dont answer why #t = #(t) |
| 13:06.17 | Jamash | ok |
| 13:06.28 | Jamash | lua> t = {1} print(t) print((t)) |
| 13:06.28 | lua_bot | Jamash: table: 0x9063730, table: 0x9063730 |
| 13:06.55 | Flowy | ok |
| 13:07.00 | Jamash | in lua tables are not stored in variables, references to tables are stored in variables |
| 13:07.03 | Flowy | if () truncates table ... |
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| 13:07.17 | Flowy | but why it dont truncate #(t) if its not a function |
| 13:08.48 | Flowy | Jamash you mean that t is a reference variable with only 1 arg and there is nothing to truncate? |
| 13:09.09 | Jamash | ... is not a table |
| 13:09.12 | Jamash | it's a list |
| 13:09.29 | Flowy | table ~= list ? |
| 13:09.35 | Jamash | that's correct |
| 13:09.44 | Jamash | forex |
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| 13:10.20 | Flowy | forex? |
| 13:10.53 | Jamash | lua> function f(...) print(...) print(" ") print(#...) end f({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 13:10.54 | lua_bot | Jamash: table: 0x8912758, table: 0x8901be0, , 3 |
| 13:11.21 | Jamash | forex = for example shortened |
| 13:12.14 | Jamash | that could have been clearer, let me see |
| 13:14.02 | Jamash | lua> function f(...) print(...) print(type(...)) end f(4,5,6) |
| 13:14.03 | lua_bot | Jamash: 4, 5, 6, number |
| 13:14.31 | Jamash | lua>t = {4,5,6} print(t) print(type(t)) |
| 13:14.31 | lua_bot | Jamash: table: 0x87eb730, table |
| 13:14.50 | Jamash | so you see, a list of 4,5,6 is not the same as a table of 4,5,6 |
| 13:15.14 | Jamash | you can transform a list into a table using the table constructor { stuff } |
| 13:15.27 | Jamash | and you can transform a table into a list using unpack(table) |
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| 13:16.01 | Flowy | ok |
| 13:16.16 | Flowy | i got it i think :) |
| 13:16.50 | Flowy | select() works with lists and table? |
| 13:17.07 | Jamash | select operates on lists |
| 13:17.56 | Flowy | lua> t = { 1,2,3,4,5 } return select(3,t) |
| 13:17.56 | lua_bot | Flowy: No output |
| 13:18.02 | Flowy | lua> t = { 1,2,3,4,5 } return select(3,unpack(t)) |
| 13:18.03 | lua_bot | Flowy: 3, 4, 5 |
| 13:18.07 | Jamash | very good |
| 13:18.11 | Flowy | hmm |
| 13:18.42 | Flowy | lua> t = { 1,2,3,4,5 } return select(#,unpack(t)) |
| 13:18.43 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ',' |
| 13:18.51 | Flowy | lua> t = { 1,2,3,4,5 } return select("#",unpack(t)) |
| 13:18.52 | lua_bot | Flowy: 5 |
| 13:19.22 | Flowy | hmm select("#",...) is same as #t on table? |
| 13:19.53 | Jamash | well, select("#", list) works on lists the same way #table works on tables, roughly |
| 13:20.13 | Jamash | but there are differences |
| 13:20.38 | Flowy | which? |
| 13:20.46 | Flowy | or what differences |
| 13:20.46 | Jamash | lua> t = {a=1, b=2, 3, 4, 5} print(#t) |
| 13:20.46 | lua_bot | Jamash: 3 |
| 13:21.19 | Jamash | #t only gives the number of items in the table with integer keys starting at 1 |
| 13:21.32 | Flowy | ok now is time for question ... array table = { x,y } ? |
| 13:21.36 | mikma | wobin: http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/10/check_out_this_great_mondaytof.php |
| 13:22.47 | Jamash | I'm not sure what the question is |
| 13:23.02 | Flowy | what means "array" |
| 13:23.19 | Flowy | its just table that is "consistent" or its all tables? |
| 13:23.35 | Jamash | lua doesn't have arrays per se |
| 13:23.46 | Jamash | it has tables, which can have keys of any type |
| 13:24.04 | Wobin | ... find a stranger in the alps? |
| 13:24.16 | Jamash | when a table only has integer keys from 1 to n with no gaps it is called an array |
| 13:24.22 | Flowy | ok then t={ a =1, b=2} is array too? |
| 13:24.29 | Jamash | nope |
| 13:24.33 | Flowy | ok thanks :) |
| 13:25.45 | Jamash | I think the networks are missing out on a golden opportunity |
| 13:25.55 | Jamash | they could invent new swear words to overdub stuff with |
| 13:26.54 | Jamash | or just do like spongebob squarepants and use sound effects |
| 13:26.59 | amro | frack you Jamash |
| 13:27.09 | Jamash | smurf you amro |
| 13:27.31 | Legorol | jamash: like "freck"? |
| 13:27.38 | Jamash | no see frack is just a bowdlerization |
| 13:27.42 | Jamash | I mean brand-new words |
| 13:28.36 | Jamash | like klifk |
| 13:29.02 | Jamash | or zoob |
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| 13:29.23 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 13:30.05 | Lopeppeppy | is all alone. *sniff sniff* |
| 13:30.14 | Jamash | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:31.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, am not alonely! |
| 13:32.31 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: blizzcon today! |
| 13:33.17 | mikma | weekend today! |
| 13:33.29 | Jamash | brizzcon? |
| 13:33.43 | Moonwitch | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:33.48 | Moonwitch | youÅe completely NOT alone |
| 13:34.18 | |Jelly| | hugs Peppy |
| 13:35.43 | Jamash | someone gief livestream code |
| 13:35.48 | Jamash | is too cheap to buy it |
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| 13:36.33 | Ackis | I'm sad |
| 13:36.45 | Moonwitch | I'll hold you Ackis :) |
| 13:36.46 | Jamash | what about |
| 13:37.02 | Ackis | found out this morning via e-mail from my dad that one of my aunts has ovarian cancer |
| 13:37.19 | Jamash | that's sad :( |
| 13:44.27 | Kraps | hawt http://io9.com/5670284/a-solar-flare-erupts-from-a-massive-filament-of-magnetism |
| 13:45.10 | Jamash | the sun, she explode |
| 13:48.01 | Jamash | HORSEMAN'S REINS YEAH |
| 13:48.47 | Ackis | h8 u |
| 13:49.03 | Jamash | <3 |
| 13:49.14 | Jamash | and I got it on my main too |
| 13:50.36 | amro | grats Jamash |
| 13:50.41 | Jamash | ty |
| 13:51.33 | Jamash | now I just need the helm on my dk |
| 13:51.33 | Ackis | wrong amro |
| 13:51.50 | amro | ~whalepunt Ackis |
| 13:51.50 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts Ackis across the Pacific |
| 13:51.58 | amro | let me know when you arrive in japan |
| 13:53.17 | Ackis | actually I'd end up in russia |
| 13:53.42 | amro | it doesn't say directly west |
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| 13:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | Moorning, Moonwitch and Jelly-dooom! |
| 13:55.27 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles Ackis. |
| 13:57.16 | Ackis | e-mail said that surgery won't fix it, so she has to do chemo |
| 14:00.54 | Jamash | maybe she'll get mutant powers |
| 14:02.36 | Flowy | can I assing a list to a variable? |
| 14:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | They're doing a lot of good things with chemo lately, Ackis, it's not as hideous as it used to be when we were kids. Much more targeted. *hug* |
| 14:04.01 | Ackis | still my dad is a bastard for sending that e-mail |
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| 14:04.14 | Moonwitch | Ackis, hugs... if you need someone to lean on for a bit -- you've got my shoulder :) |
| 14:04.24 | Lopeppeppy | I agree, darlin'. Some shit ain't for text. |
| 14:04.47 | Moonwitch | And if they find it fast enough, the remission rate of that type of cancer is very high |
| 14:04.55 | Maldivia | Flowy: indirectly to ... -- but not directly |
| 14:05.14 | Ackis | all I know is she's in chemo until the spring, and her hair will fall out |
| 14:05.52 | Moonwitch | Chemo wreacks havock on a body, it really does, but if she has a good support system (nurses, doctors, friends and family) she'll be fine |
| 14:05.56 | Lopeppeppy | Bah humbug. Get her a nice warm hat, and tell her she's still beautiful. |
| 14:06.04 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2032-Blizzcon-2010-Goodies-Bag |
| 14:06.05 | Moonwitch | Cancer is a big chunk emotional fighting too |
| 14:08.25 | Moonwitch | People often react differently to chemo, most important thing is to keep a positive attitude, stay clear of people who are sick (flu etc), and keep a warm head (like Lopeppeppy said). Besides, hair doesn't make the person, the heart makes the person. She'll still be as beautiful as she is today. |
| 14:09.19 | cbreak_work | people are a combination of hardware and software |
| 14:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | And wetware! |
| 14:09.49 | Moonwitch | lots of wetware |
| 14:09.52 | Lopeppeppy | And our bios sucks donkey. I'm just sayin' |
| 14:09.59 | cbreak_work | I consider everything tangible part of hardware |
| 14:10.10 | cbreak_work | Lopeppeppy: it has impressive boot strapping capabilities |
| 14:10.18 | Moonwitch | hates writing detailed OS compentences :( |
| 14:10.31 | amro | thinking of people like that is just creepy cbreak_work |
| 14:10.34 | amro | are you a cylon? |
| 14:10.40 | cbreak_work | humans build their own Operating System out of environmental input |
| 14:10.44 | Maldivia | cbreak: not to mention usually very stamble, sometimes over 100 years uptime |
| 14:10.47 | Maldivia | stable* |
| 14:10.48 | Lopeppeppy | cbreak_work, so what do you consider my hormones? I'm thinking of them as non-rebootable bios. :) |
| 14:11.12 | Baps | microcode |
| 14:11.30 | amro | apparently we're all running windows |
| 14:11.36 | cbreak_work | layer 1 protocol |
| 14:11.37 | amro | since we get sick so much |
| 14:11.41 | Computerpunk | aw dayum |
| 14:11.54 | Moonwitch | loves hugging her sister |
| 14:12.21 | Fisker | push it to the limit jnwhiteh |
| 14:12.42 | amro | take it to the max Fisker |
| 14:12.43 | amro | max steel |
| 14:12.50 | Maldivia | amro: well, we might be sick, but at least we don't get rooted ;) |
| 14:13.00 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, you said root! |
| 14:13.01 | Fisker | to the limit amro |
| 14:13.07 | amro | Maldivia: we do in movies :P |
| 14:13.14 | amro | and via hypnotic suggestion to a certain extent |
| 14:13.36 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: k. |
| 14:13.39 | Maldivia | well, hypnotic suggestion are like penis enlargement emails |
| 14:14.12 | amro | you mean they're all over the place? |
| 14:14.37 | Maldivia | naah, more like those weak/stupid enough to fall for it, had it coming :) |
| 14:15.08 | amro | a) it's not all involuntary b) you're insulting the great hypnotists :) |
| 14:15.14 | amro | don't have to be weak or stupid, just distracted |
| 14:15.37 | Maldivia | well, being distracted is a weakspot :) |
| 14:15.51 | amro | yeah, and exposing it is the mark of an excellent mentalist |
| 14:16.35 | amro | although some people... like my sister, when she's walking around thinking about something, she's almost in a trance. you can ask her for coffee/sandwich and she won't mind |
| 14:16.45 | amro | then when she brings it back she goes, "hey wtf why am I doing this for you?" |
| 14:17.20 | Lopeppeppy | I have chronic insomnia. Everything is entrancing right now. |
| 14:17.33 | Maldivia | I'm the opposite, when I'm thinking about something, I usually tune everything else out, and don't even register people talking to me |
| 14:17.50 | amro | you don't register it, your subconscious does |
| 14:18.02 | amro | in fact it sounds like a very vulnerable state :P |
| 14:18.18 | amro | your conscious mind isn't there to say "no, that's a stupid idea" |
| 14:18.25 | Maldivia | seriously, I don't register it at all |
| 14:18.40 | amro | your subconscious does :P |
| 14:18.48 | amro | whether that results in anything is an entirely different matter |
| 14:19.02 | amro | but it could give you an idea later on |
| 14:19.27 | amro | most advertising is based on that |
| 14:21.13 | amro | hypnotic suggestion means planting a thought in someone's head without them knowing it came from you |
| 14:21.19 | amro | later they'll think it was their own idea |
| 14:21.33 | Maldivia | I know :) |
| 14:21.35 | amro | well that's suggestion in general, but it's easier with hypnosis |
| 14:21.37 | jnwhiteh | How can you do alternation in macros? |
| 14:21.48 | jnwhiteh | i.e. cast one spell when [target=mouseover,help] |
| 14:21.52 | jnwhiteh | and cast another when that isn't the case |
| 14:21.56 | amro | so if you're tuning everything out, it makes it more likely for you to think that whatever thought was planted is your own idea |
| 14:22.11 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.17 | jnwhiteh | thanks! |
| 14:22.21 | industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.23 | industrial | arrrr |
| 14:22.24 | Lopeppeppy | amro, I refuse to ever eat lunch with you. |
| 14:22.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ev-er. |
| 14:22.29 | jnwhiteh | will the second spell be cast on 'target' or 'mouseover'/ |
| 14:22.33 | industrial | target |
| 14:22.35 | amro | Lopeppeppy: :( |
| 14:22.45 | amro | I'm not a good mentalist, I just know how it works |
| 14:22.45 | Lopeppeppy | You scary. |
| 14:23.06 | industrial | so methinks /cast [@mouseover,help]a;[@mouseover,harm]b; |
| 14:23.21 | amro | Lopeppeppy: also for the record, hypnosis can't make you do something you don't want to do |
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| 14:29.06 | Maldivia | you can still prioritize conditions like: /cast [@mouseover,harm][@focus,harm][@targettarget,harm][harm] Polymorph ? |
| 14:29.39 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 14:30.06 | jnwhiteh | industrial: I had wanted it to be on target |
| 14:30.10 | jnwhiteh | but I had to ask the user what they REALLY want |
| 14:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | I know that one, amro. I've got a counseling degree -- trust me, if I could hypnotize people into doing random crap, I would. :) |
| 14:30.17 | jnwhiteh | since they're asking for conditions that no one can give them =) |
| 14:30.22 | Maldivia | thought so, just haven't been playing with macros in a while |
| 14:30.27 | Lopeppeppy | I, however, am adventurous and "wouldn't normally do" isn't exactly a Peppy-standard. |
| 14:31.01 | industrial | jnwhiteh: I love that they added @, @ == target= |
| 14:31.08 | amro | as long as you're observant and constantly aware of your surroundings, suggestion isn't an issue |
| 14:31.27 | Maldivia | industrial: agree - it actually makes it easier to read, I think |
| 14:31.31 | amro | I often times have ideas that I trace back to something I saw or heard since I started being actively observant |
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| 14:31.33 | Jamash | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 14:31.53 | amro | [sudo] password for Jamash: |
| 14:32.01 | Maldivia | ******** |
| 14:32.03 | Jamash | ********** |
| 14:32.10 | amro | Sorry, try again. |
| 14:32.22 | Jamash | idkfa |
| 14:32.25 | clever_ | lol |
| 14:32.28 | Maldivia | Enter authenticator number: |
| 14:32.29 | amro | ~Jamash++ |
| 14:32.41 | clever_ | 12345! |
| 14:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | 6 |
| 14:33.47 | clever_ | 7? |
| 14:33.56 | Jamash | so this week I got the magical crawdad and the HH mount, what should I go out and try to get while my luck is good? |
| 14:34.01 | Lopeppeppy | If you like. |
| 14:34.10 | Maldivia | Jamash: ZG mounts |
| 14:34.26 | Jamash | Maldivia: good idea |
| 14:34.26 | jnwhiteh | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1287756946977.jpg |
| 14:34.31 | amro | also known as unobtanium mounts |
| 14:34.35 | clever_ | Jamash: ive noticed that the HH mount is both land and air, no need to re-cast it when your leaving dalaran |
| 14:34.44 | Jamash | yeah it's cool |
| 14:34.55 | clever_ | its stuck on the ground until you enter a flight zone, no need to every switch again |
| 14:35.06 | clever_ | also, the blood is instant-cast, so you can mount while moving |
| 14:35.06 | amro | Jamash: wow that just made my day |
| 14:35.09 | clever_ | broom* |
| 14:35.11 | amro | jnwhiteh* |
| 14:35.12 | amro | misping |
| 14:35.14 | Jamash | ~whalenuke jnwhiteh |
| 14:35.14 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around jnwhiteh with his mind powers. |
| 14:35.24 | clever_ | but the broom expires in 2 weeks |
| 14:35.41 | Jamash | you can mount the broom while plummeting |
| 14:35.48 | Jamash | very handy in some circumstances |
| 14:35.49 | clever_ | jnwhiteh: LOL |
| 14:35.57 | Maldivia | Jamash: pssh, that's what flight form is for :) |
| 14:36.10 | clever_ | Maldivia: my druid isnt even 35 yet |
| 14:36.20 | clever_ | and not everybody is druid:P |
| 14:36.40 | Maldivia | clever: well, that's their problem! |
| 14:36.41 | clever_ | Jamash: i made a macro to use the broom, and then the HH mount |
| 14:36.56 | clever_ | so i can just mash it whenever i want it to go faster |
| 14:37.10 | clever_ | if i can fly and i'm moving, broom |
| 14:37.16 | clever_ | if i'm still, HH mount |
| 14:37.26 | Jamash | nice |
| 14:37.49 | clever_ | its just 2 /cast's with no conditions |
| 14:37.52 | Jamash | I made a one-button hunter soloing macro |
| 14:38.01 | Maldivia | clever: what class ? |
| 14:38.05 | clever_ | Maldivia: DK |
| 14:38.23 | Maldivia | then add a /cast [combat] Death Grip |
| 14:38.26 | clever_ | the HH mount harmlessly fails if i'm moving, and the broom harmlessly fails letting the HH mount trigger |
| 14:38.31 | Maldivia | so you get the shaman who knocked you off with you :) |
| 14:38.43 | jnwhiteh | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1287757282158.jpg |
| 14:38.44 | clever_ | lol |
| 14:38.45 | Computerpunk | Oh, I got HH yesterday. |
| 14:38.53 | clever_ | Maldivia: that would help, but i keep the mount way over on 0 |
| 14:38.56 | Jamash | ./cast [nocombat] Hunter's Mark; Arcane Shot /petattack /startattack |
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| 14:39.24 | Lopeppeppy | I can't even get the new patch to install, much less have fancy mounts to swap happily. :P |
| 14:39.33 | industrial | Jamash: keeping that nocombat mark one. |
| 14:39.33 | Jamash | poor peppy |
| 14:39.34 | Maldivia | why not? |
| 14:40.47 | clever_ | jnwhiteh: http://gallery.earthtools.ca/1274069913749.jpg |
| 14:40.50 | Maldivia | Jamash: and if you should ever need to dump focus to 0, just cast trap launcher 5 times in a row |
| 14:40.57 | Jamash | uh |
| 14:41.03 | Jamash | why would you need to do that? |
| 14:41.18 | Maldivia | to gimp your self? :) |
| 14:41.44 | industrial | invalid use case! |
| 14:41.58 | Jamash | I need to make some trap launcher macros |
| 14:42.00 | Ackis | pompy: what's a cockbag? |
| 14:42.08 | pompy | :O |
| 14:42.09 | Maldivia | it's about time a fight was introduced that did damage based on how much focus/energy/runic you have... it's ALWAYS mana |
| 14:42.21 | industrial | Ackis: transport for hens |
| 14:42.42 | Jamash | what's a henway? |
| 14:43.10 | Maldivia | oh about two and a half pounds |
| 14:43.18 | Jamash | Maldivia: hopefully they'll bring back class calls for blackwing descent |
| 14:43.44 | Maldivia | Jamash: go go bow-breaker :) |
| 14:43.48 | foxlit | Because breaking people's bows was a fun mechanic |
| 14:43.52 | clever_ | Ackis: 22 11:38:56 < Jamash> ./cast [nocombat] Hunter's Mark; Arcane Shot /petattack /startattack |
| 14:43.53 | Jamash | yeah not that one |
| 14:43.57 | Jamash | I mean new ones |
| 14:43.57 | clever_ | dang, wrong paste |
| 14:44.01 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, class calls! |
| 14:44.08 | Maldivia | Hunters and your annoying pea-shooters! |
| 14:44.14 | amro | well |
| 14:44.21 | amro | at least that made every hunter learn a macro |
| 14:44.32 | amro | it had educational intent |
| 14:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | and carry a spare weapon. |
| 14:44.47 | Jamash | hunters should be able to dual wield ranged weapons imo |
| 14:44.51 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome to a rogue's world! :) We used to die so often we had a backup set for our backup set. |
| 14:44.59 | Lopeppeppy | Them were the days! |
| 14:45.03 | Jamash | psht vanish |
| 14:45.16 | Maldivia | Lopeppeppy: what, you didn't like 360 cleave ? |
| 14:45.22 | clever_ | Ackis: http://ircz.de/p/5e539acad18ec45138296537ad18232c4988a5d0 |
| 14:45.26 | Maldivia | or getting called to face nef ? |
| 14:45.41 | Ackis | clever_: I'm at work won't click :P |
| 14:45.47 | clever_ | Ackis: that image is work safe |
| 14:45.48 | amro | ugh I just remembered when repair bots were the most expensive thing ever |
| 14:46.03 | clever_ | Ackis: just dont click the image, or you mind wind up with boobage! :P |
| 14:46.34 | amro | that's like saying Ackis, click the image |
| 14:46.46 | Maldivia | amro: go go, grind STV for wires :) |
| 14:46.58 | amro | bad memories :( |
| 14:49.23 | Jamash | OMG my ancient sinew wrapped lamina is now a 24 slot bag |
| 14:49.33 | Jamash | \o/ |
| 14:49.45 | Computerpunk | >8< |
| 14:49.46 | Jamash | I am so glad I kept it |
| 14:49.49 | Computerpunk | spider pride |
| 14:50.13 | Computerpunk | oh, yeah, and can't wait to talk to haris pilton |
| 14:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | Jamash, Vanish has been broken since I was 5 manning Dire Maul. :P Darn hunters again! |
| 14:54.16 | Computerpunk | http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/vodka.jpg |
| 14:54.18 | Computerpunk | quite a good one |
| 14:54.18 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 14:55.02 | clever_ | Computerpunk: nice |
| 14:55.15 | Computerpunk | ;3 |
| 14:55.26 | mikma | http://ircz.de/p/02b1d96362a6b3e4d7df552e9b6f1269db081366 |
| 14:55.40 | clever_ | NSFW http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/CAVE.jpg |
| 14:55.54 | clever_ | mikma: lol:) |
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| 14:57.25 | mikma | clever_: i am glad atleast 1 person got it :D |
| 14:57.41 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/4478b09e2619f0385122fcb073efccfe5ea6f5aa |
| 14:57.42 | Computerpunk | lol'd. |
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| 14:58.04 | Computerpunk | mikma, explain. :< |
| 14:58.35 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/ee472611260ee738a1e71cc11a1ff8824e4330c8 |
| 14:58.36 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 14:59.23 | clever_ | Computerpunk: 2 in the ____ one in the _____ |
| 14:59.25 | Jamash | three hours till blizzcon |
| 15:00.44 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/006e21e6ff013813e4502a3e0508a83dc075341c |
| 15:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | Wooot, Jamash! |
| 15:00.51 | Computerpunk | oh |
| 15:00.52 | Computerpunk | I got it. |
| 15:00.53 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:01.04 | Ackis | http://twitpic.com/2zsyu0 |
| 15:01.05 | Computerpunk | good one. |
| 15:01.05 | Computerpunk | XD |
| 15:01.09 | clever_ | Computerpunk: work safe if your boss doesnt know:P |
| 15:02.22 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/3fc2806b78ef96e61894c78181f19d67e41a6cb3 |
| 15:02.39 | Computerpunk | N1 cleavage. |
| 15:02.47 | clever_ | Computerpunk: and a kitty! |
| 15:03.07 | msoul | is there anything similar to filger addon? |
| 15:03.10 | Ackis | lol grats to Matticus http://ow.ly/i/4Nm5 |
| 15:03.53 | Lopeppeppy | Poor, poor poor Felicia. |
| 15:04.11 | clever_ | hippo eats dwarf! http://ircz.de/p/8961cf46304c066b3aca1bc1b78181fc5b7b02f6 |
| 15:04.24 | clever_ | let that be a leason for all you dwarf players in here:P |
| 15:04.40 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/1eca4c32892432085c9646e9a1c1ddcd334f864a |
| 15:04.41 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 15:04.56 | clever_ | lol |
| 15:04.59 | Computerpunk | pro hints |
| 15:05.28 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: you could tell she wasn't too happy there eh? |
| 15:05.48 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/a3740139ab1ee6ad25d80dd9b7a9c0157200f335 |
| 15:06.16 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/8f45fee3ffb2e59bf94a4f9aae681b5a15e6c7d6 |
| 15:06.17 | Computerpunk | Beware. |
| 15:06.35 | amro | doing HH as tank then healer should give priority for the rest of the characters on that account if they go DPS >< |
| 15:06.44 | amro | queue time for dps is stupid |
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| 15:07.06 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/3f147993f750e4a1952dd58220b6f2777519214c |
| 15:07.08 | Computerpunk | THIS ONE LOL |
| 15:07.33 | clever_ | Computerpunk: yeah, good one |
| 15:07.38 | clever_ | seen it a while ago |
| 15:07.46 | Computerpunk | AHAHA |
| 15:07.48 | Computerpunk | Gonna go do it. XD |
| 15:07.57 | Computerpunk | Brb. |
| 15:08.24 | sylvanaar | are you guys srs with that |
| 15:09.16 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/3a2a9b108db2c4bf456f2d248542884e4b3f835d |
| 15:09.38 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/222e792da3dc136e9802552dd1abf64d02df82ad |
| 15:10.01 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/047763f1ac031e40f9a3dd57f9a2d83975704fe2 |
| 15:10.02 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 15:10.46 | Ackis | look at the line for blizzcon: http://twitpic.com/2zt20j |
| 15:11.11 | clever_ | Computerpunk: lol!! |
| 15:11.45 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/b913f4569374c782e282db10f08139fb7ddda74f |
| 15:12.14 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/b031679e2e64cf1de90ef98ab71d13a7b86be208 |
| 15:12.44 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/676b6aef066f49e8d18ef37229d15ff9d1bb93f7 |
| 15:13.01 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/6e66cff7b5c5dc1635fa1a2cfb669dd6c3e87af7 PIE! |
| 15:13.01 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/16e6f9192ddfafb767508835cd7d5be600bbf802 |
| 15:13.49 | clever_ | lol |
| 15:14.11 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, it's her shoulders. |
| 15:14.28 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/578c4b32890d99b449719aa98de001d42d46fa55 |
| 15:14.38 | clever_ | Computerpunk: http://ircz.de/p/1437e71104d179f5c8f67321cd6dfe6e113311a9 |
| 15:14.45 | clever_ | ive been looking for that one for months!! |
| 15:15.06 | clever_ | lol |
| 15:15.46 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/85420ad9d7374d7ce2f2183a161b0e602e3dd1ac |
| 15:16.13 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 15:16.15 | Computerpunk | LOOOOOL |
| 15:17.03 | clever_ | Computerpunk: http://ircz.de/p/683a9f1dcedd7566c4b03d17ade557a48732f064 LOL! |
| 15:17.17 | Ackis | ok you two, take your link sharing to PM's :P |
| 15:17.31 | Computerpunk | Naw. |
| 15:17.31 | Ackis | aka get a room :P |
| 15:17.36 | clever_ | Ackis: http://ircz.de/p/d79b5aae7902b15fd2fb951b08099a4850c808e1 |
| 15:17.40 | Computerpunk | You just jealous. |
| 15:17.42 | Computerpunk | Join in. <3 |
| 15:17.52 | Ackis | I'm at work |
| 15:17.55 | Ackis | other people are as well |
| 15:17.57 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | No, we just don't want to be flooded with NSFW stuff we can't see. :) |
| 15:18.04 | clever_ | Ackis: http://ircz.de/p/683a9f1dcedd7566c4b03d17ade557a48732f064 is work safe |
| 15:19.06 | sylvanaar | and why are the links so long |
| 15:19.13 | Jamash | stop linking plx |
| 15:19.28 | Jamash | we can click the random button just as easily as you can |
| 15:19.31 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/03c8c8366835195d936823b719d1f29468e4b46f |
| 15:19.37 | Computerpunk | the links are hashed sylvanaar. |
| 15:19.53 | Jamash | failhash |
| 15:20.00 | clever_ | Computerpunk: dang thats complex:P |
| 15:20.13 | Computerpunk | and they say |
| 15:20.19 | Computerpunk | it's easy to write a pokemon turn based game |
| 15:20.19 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 15:21.13 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/aa2cebe0062f4c4e4e3c52e25f10fef2dd6d309d |
| 15:21.39 | clever_ | thats one dirty mouse |
| 15:23.08 | Kraps | Ackis: lucky bastard |
| 15:23.09 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/bfbdac1e938f359695c50894c432985ce3d08390 honk if you like jesus, text if you want to meet him |
| 15:23.22 | clever_ | texting+driving=death=meeting jesus:P |
| 15:23.45 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/static/pics/2009/11/17_22_10_21/1258488556137.jpg |
| 15:24.03 | Computerpunk | nsfw: http://ircz.de/static/pics/2010/05/04_03_41_15/QbniZ.jpg |
| 15:24.55 | clever_ | Computerpunk: http://ircz.de/p/666a0f0db2a8895a149f54fca85b87b8f4e92c0c |
| 15:25.08 | Computerpunk | true |
| 15:25.32 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/63143e6b18cce770ec9a631176f6ac3fc8e6ced1 |
| 15:25.32 | Computerpunk | lol... |
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| 15:26.15 | clever_ | http://ircz.de/p/48f6bace69cf75ed5911ce15f1d4a282d4f2df64 what the |
| 15:27.13 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/867fdc55e221d6dfbaff10f659bac53243ca98bf |
| 15:27.14 | Ackis | OMG CLAPTRAP PET http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Claptrap/00001000-1488-b213-cebd-36f9545407e7?cid=RSS |
| 15:27.15 | Computerpunk | OMFG |
| 15:27.15 | Computerpunk | HAHA |
| 15:27.55 | Computerpunk | nsfw on my last |
| 15:28.49 | amro | no ackis |
| 15:28.51 | amro | I want a real one |
| 15:28.53 | clever_ | Computerpunk: http://pics.nase-bohren.de/beware-of-cat.jpg |
| 15:28.59 | amro | Shirik: help me build a claptrap |
| 15:29.09 | clever_ | http://pics.nase-bohren.de/i-was-here.jpg lol |
| 15:29.43 | clever_ | this one isnt random, so we will see the same images and not have to spam the room:P |
| 15:29.46 | Computerpunk | http://ircz.de/p/cf56e08c90315aa21b4b4a925bc5391bfb166f1d |
| 15:29.48 | Computerpunk | oh-ahahah-ah-ah-ah-ah |
| 15:30.01 | amro | yeah this is getting a little out of hand |
| 15:31.00 | clever_ | it usualy ends with me having to close 200 tabs |
| 15:31.06 | clever_ | ive managed to keep it under 5 this time |
| 15:31.41 | Computerpunk | ok |
| 15:31.47 | Computerpunk | I stop. |
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| 15:41.49 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: http://twitpic.com/2ztad4 |
| 15:41.55 | Ackis | I'm getting these pics from Shefki |
| 15:42.23 | Lopeppeppy | Shefki is awesome!!! |
| 15:42.32 | Ackis | I have to concur |
| 15:42.51 | Lopeppeppy | Ask if Shefki minds if these are shared around? I don't see anything identifiable in it... |
| 15:42.52 | jnwhiteh | so annoyed I couldn't go this year =/ |
| 15:43.07 | jnwhiteh | Tem and I always miss each other :P |
| 15:43.09 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles jnwhiteh. |
| 15:43.20 | Ackis | apparently cog|away just met and said hi to felicia day |
| 15:43.28 | Lopeppeppy | ... I shall slay him too, anon. |
| 15:43.30 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: he's posting them to twitter |
| 15:43.46 | Lopeppeppy | Woot! |
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| 15:55.43 | Kraps | http://fukung.net/v/26614/a5ba0886e7e058a01d950722d6835ad1.png |
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| 16:00.39 | |Jelly| | Kraps: I lol'd |
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| 16:04.05 | Kraps | win http://rebuildbrotherhood.us.ubi.com/site.php |
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| 16:22.40 | TC-Mobile | Entertain me. Huge line is huge. |
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| 16:22.54 | |Jelly| | nou |
| 16:23.04 | Ackis | I hope it rains on you TC-Mobile |
| 16:23.13 | TC-Mobile | I don't want to entertain myself |
| 16:23.18 | olafski | cataclysm CE is 170 euro at play.com.. is it really that expensive this time? |
| 16:23.46 | TC-Mobile | ~lart ackis |
| 16:23.46 | purl | lowers ackis's priority |
| 16:24.05 | durcyn | no, olafski, someone's taking the piss |
| 16:25.06 | olafski | that's what I thought |
| 16:25.24 | olafski | was hoping to preorder it somewhere where I can pick it up in a store on december 7th |
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| 16:26.37 | olafski | 70 euro.. that's better |
| 16:27.21 | olafski | .. sold out :P thanks for the help though durcyn |
| 16:28.09 | Fisker | some stores did something similar for us with TBC and i think WotLK |
| 16:28.16 | Fisker | but for some reason they don't do it this time around |
| 16:28.24 | Fisker | it was pretty annoying |
| 16:28.53 | TC-Mobile | Because they don't like you fisker |
| 16:29.31 | Fisker | then they wasted their time since i didn't buy my games at the vendors actually doing said price gouging |
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| 16:32.59 | TC-Mobile | No they didn't |
| 16:34.35 | Fisker | they did |
| 16:36.26 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 16:36.58 | Kraps | TC-Mobile: ! |
| 16:37.03 | Kraps | supppppp |
| 16:37.28 | TC-Mobile | Hey kraps |
| 16:37.31 | Kraps | TC-Mobile: http://store.steampowered.com/app/35140 |
| 16:38.42 | TC-Mobile | Is that batman? |
| 16:39.03 | Kraps | yes |
| 16:39.09 | olafski | fisker: they can't seriously expect people to buy this stuff for 170 euro though right? |
| 16:39.31 | TC-Mobile | I wish that game wasn't garbage |
| 16:39.43 | Ackis | I just bought it :( |
| 16:39.46 | Kraps | ima kill you TC-Mobile |
| 16:39.54 | olafski | what does GOTY edition mean anyway.. is it like "legacy" in that it has another box and is thus cheaper? |
| 16:40.00 | Kraps | Ackis: dont listen to him its great |
| 16:40.06 | olafski | I hated the demo |
| 16:40.07 | durcyn | game of the year includes dlc usually |
| 16:40.11 | olafski | ah |
| 16:40.19 | olafski | ackis: why would you get that on pc when you have a 360 :( |
| 16:40.24 | olafski | ackis: have you ordered kinect yet? |
| 16:41.03 | Legorol | olafski: check out amazon, they might still have some |
| 16:41.04 | TC-Mobile | No that game was garbage. It felt like the controls were ported from a broken nintendo |
| 16:41.16 | Kraps | no, just no |
| 16:41.18 | Legorol | olafski: www.game.co.uk has CE left, dunno how long they take to ship outside UK |
| 16:41.34 | TC-Mobile | Oh please kraps |
| 16:41.42 | olafski | I think game doesn't ship outside UK at all |
| 16:41.43 | Kraps | oh thanks |
| 16:41.49 | olafski | think I tried ordering stuff there before |
| 16:42.05 | Legorol | amazon seems to have it still anyway |
| 16:42.08 | olafski | yep |
| 16:42.21 | olafski | do you think they will ship it before december 7th? |
| 16:42.35 | olafski | it's not for me anyway, my gf says she doesn't mind waiting a day |
| 16:42.42 | olafski | but I bet she'll be annoyed if I'm playing while she can't yet :P |
| 16:42.48 | Legorol | i think amazon does do expedited delivery, which ships in a day or two |
| 16:42.52 | Ackis | I have it on xbox and I have 2 copies on the PC |
| 16:42.56 | Legorol | usually amazon is quite bad on shipping it fast |
| 16:43.02 | Ackis | that's 3k gamescore total olafski :D |
| 16:43.03 | olafski | :( |
| 16:43.03 | Kraps | Ackis: why? |
| 16:43.06 | olafski | ackis: :P |
| 16:43.13 | Legorol | olafski: but if you pay for expedited, it shouldn't be too bad |
| 16:43.27 | Fisker | Kraps he's the cancer killing gaming |
| 16:43.28 | Ackis | Kraps: I have normal on xbox, and PC and goty on PC |
| 16:43.40 | Kraps | Fisker: stfu |
| 16:43.44 | Ackis | Kraps: each version has different gamescore so I can stack them for 3k total instead of 1k |
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| 16:43.58 | Kraps | whats that do? |
| 16:43.59 | olafski | I ordered WOTLK from some online shop and I got it on the day it released.. gonna buy this directly from blizzard though =) |
| 16:44.08 | olafski | kraps: e-peen |
| 16:44.39 | Fisker | you gonna buy WotLK directly from Blizzard? |
| 16:44.54 | olafski | no |
| 16:45.21 | olafski | bleh I'm stuck in Limbo |
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| 16:46.52 | MuNk | where is the pvecurrency-justice icon stored is it in \\Texture\\Icons\\ ? |
| 16:47.39 | MuNk | ... \\Interface\\Icons\\* even |
| 16:47.46 | MuNk | also hey all ^^ |
| 16:47.52 | olafski | hai |
| 16:47.55 | Kraps | "Increased Sector Control score from 1800 to 2600 points" hehe should be interesting |
| 16:49.11 | Ackis | olafski: limbo sucks |
| 16:49.16 | Kraps | they're lowering damage on all weapons :o |
| 16:49.28 | olafski | ackis: you suck |
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| 16:49.57 | Kraps | and increasing recoil and deviation |
| 16:50.53 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.56 | Kraps | cool |
| 16:52.11 | olafski | awesome! |
| 16:52.33 | olafski | arms and legs never really hurt as much as the head anyway |
| 16:52.39 | MuNk | anyone know what GameToolTip:AddTexture("Interface\\Icons\\PVPCurrency-Honor-Alliance") is blank? |
| 16:52.42 | MuNk | know why* |
| 16:52.53 | olafski | a head is easier to swing around on a rope and hits harder |
| 16:53.17 | olafski | ackis: my gf wanted the game so I'm playing it now to at least get some achievements for my 15 euro :P |
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| 16:53.34 | Ackis | olafski: I didn't like the look of it tbh |
| 16:53.45 | olafski | it has some bit that really offended me |
| 16:53.56 | olafski | but I guess most people wouldn't mind |
| 16:54.14 | Kraps | what bit? |
| 16:54.15 | olafski | quite gruesome game even though you don't really see most of the violence |
| 16:54.35 | olafski | kraps: some spider thing that was almost dead but still wiggling around a bit, you had to pull out its leg and roll the body into a pit of spikes |
| 16:54.54 | Kraps | lololol |
| 16:55.05 | olafski | I almost quit playing.. but I'd feel bad about spending 15 euros on it since it's right near the beginning |
| 16:55.25 | foxlit | eeep, #wowace has more people than here |
| 16:56.04 | Cide | it's a sad day :( |
| 16:56.10 | Jamash | yeah but who cares? |
| 16:56.10 | Fisker | i'm here |
| 16:56.15 | Cide | I care |
| 16:56.27 | pantsninja | What's the Beta Alliance Lost Isles addon dev guild? |
| 16:56.37 | Cide | foxlit: quick, leave #wowace and reduce the difference! |
| 16:56.44 | Jamash | horde or alliance? |
| 16:56.59 | Jamash | oh you said alliance |
| 16:57.00 | foxlit | "Beta /Alliance/ Lost Isles"... |
| 16:57.02 | Jamash | hides in the corner |
| 16:57.18 | pantsninja | heh |
| 16:57.21 | pantsninja | yes |
| 16:57.30 | pantsninja | No horde toons usable for testing, I'm afraid |
| 16:57.41 | pantsninja | just Night Elves and Draenei |
| 16:57.47 | Jamash | so I'm collecting mounts again |
| 16:57.50 | Jamash | it's fun |
| 16:57.51 | foxlit | Hah, comedy. |
| 16:57.55 | foxlit | rayv died. |
| 16:58.04 | olafski | who's that |
| 16:58.19 | foxlit | directv's blizzcon streaming over the intertubes. |
| 16:58.20 | pantsninja | is Secure Hookers the guild I should be looking for? |
| 16:58.28 | pantsninja | (Which is an awesome name, btw) |
| 16:58.46 | olafski | ah cool |
| 16:58.46 | Cide | probably |
| 16:58.50 | olafski | so blizzcon has started? |
| 16:58.54 | Cide | MMOC GOD |
| 16:58.59 | Cide | ONE HOUR AND ONE MINUTE AND 9 SECONDS |
| 16:59.14 | Fisker | srsly? |
| 16:59.21 | olafski | bleh ;p |
| 17:00.22 | olafski | hm not really anything on the schedule I need to see anyway |
| 17:00.31 | foxlit | "Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got...an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday." |
| 17:01.01 | Cide | olafski: diablo 3 gameplay?! |
| 17:01.10 | olafski | meh |
| 17:01.21 | olafski | foxlit: :DDDD |
| 17:01.22 | Kraps | epic, rage over the sniper nerf |
| 17:01.37 | Jamash | in what? |
| 17:01.44 | Kraps | moh |
| 17:02.06 | olafski | they're still releasing moh games? :[ |
| 17:02.07 | Fisker | looking forward to the new mmo |
| 17:02.17 | Fisker | if they don't announce it, they suck |
| 17:02.26 | Jamash | oh, so nothing important |
| 17:02.26 | olafski | doesn't appear to be anything scheduled for it |
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| 17:02.58 | Kraps | olafski: ?? |
| 17:03.08 | olafski | I loved diablo 2 but not sure I'm going to play 3 |
| 17:03.34 | Kraps | allied assault and its expansions were the best ww2 games ever |
| 17:03.46 | amro | mohaa was awesome |
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| 17:04.45 | olafski | that's like saying dog turds are the best turds ever |
| 17:04.53 | olafski | sorry that one was cheap :P |
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| 17:06.03 | olafski | haven't played many ww2 games but RTCW:ET was my favourite |
| 17:06.03 | Lulia | Hey there |
| 17:06.06 | olafski | hai |
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| 17:07.19 | Kraps | erm is the live stream not working? |
| 17:07.20 | |Jelly| | More games need coop campaign. |
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| 17:07.50 | Fisker | why would it be working Kraps ? |
| 17:07.59 | olafski | agreed |jelly| |
| 17:08.05 | Kraps | shut your face |
| 17:08.57 | Fisker | why so mature Kraps ? |
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| 17:16.00 | pantsninja | how do I get to the virtual ticket feed? I can't seem to find a URL |
| 17:16.14 | Cide | you've purchased it but received no information? |
| 17:16.19 | pantsninja | yar |
| 17:16.24 | Cide | that's pretty fail of you |
| 17:16.27 | Kraps | http://blizzcon.rayv.com/ |
| 17:16.30 | pantsninja | not that I've found in my email |
| 17:16.55 | Kraps | how did you purchase it then? |
| 17:17.22 | pantsninja | I purchased it a month or so ago via the BlizzCon site |
| 17:17.28 | pantsninja | I can't find a confirmation email |
| 17:17.43 | pantsninja | but I was invited to the pre-sale of merch, so I assume I did get one |
| 17:18.18 | Lopeppeppy | Spam folder? |
| 17:18.31 | Kraps | search "rayv" in your email |
| 17:18.42 | Kraps | also what peppy said |
| 17:18.53 | pantsninja | ah |
| 17:18.56 | pantsninja | rayv worked |
| 17:18.58 | pantsninja | thanks |
| 17:20.05 | Kraps | speaking of spam: "There are thousands of married women in your city that will be home alone sometime this month while their husbands are out of town. These women are seeking some adventure in their boring and lonely lives. Would you be interested in taking them out for a date, or just meeting them for an intimate encounter?" |
| 17:20.26 | Grum | Anyone going to watch the blizzcon stream? I seem to have some issue with the RayV thingie; it 'demands' the install of an 'newer version' of Adobe Flash Player ActiveX control but erm .. it launches MS IE to a page which doesnt exist o.O |
| 17:21.18 | jnwhiteh | i'm watching it using the 'flash version' |
| 17:21.23 | jnwhiteh | since the rayv player will not install |
| 17:21.27 | Grum | yeah but thats 'lowres' O.o |
| 17:21.41 | pantsninja | Grum, I'm manually going to Adobe's site to download the newer version. Who knows if that'll work |
| 17:21.52 | jnwhiteh | well I dont have a choice. |
| 17:21.52 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 17:21.53 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:22.05 | Fisker | mine's stuck at loading and connecting :( |
| 17:22.13 | Grum | yes but erm ... i dont want to touch MSIE O.o |
| 17:22.18 | jnwhiteh | well, stream doesn't start until 10.30 |
| 17:23.21 | Fisker | shouldn't it have a test stream running or something? |
| 17:23.25 | Kraps | Fisker whyd you buy it |
| 17:23.59 | Fisker | pets Kraps |
| 17:24.05 | Kraps | lolololo |
| 17:24.20 | Grum | ok |
| 17:24.38 | Grum | Installign the flashplayer manually in your MSIE *WILL* make the setup of RayV finish |
| 17:24.44 | Grum | and it works .. in firefox ... after that |
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| 17:26.39 | pantsninja | ugh |
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| 17:27.07 | pantsninja | regardless, now that I have the URL and a theoretically working stream, I better start laundry so I have something to wear to my dear sister's wedding tomorrow... |
| 17:27.47 | Kraps | blizzcon > sisters wedding |
| 17:27.53 | Fisker | is the url something else than blizzcon.rayv.com ? |
| 17:28.00 | Cide | you laundry your for-your-sister's-wedding-clothes the day before? :P |
| 17:28.01 | Kraps | its a mathematical fact |
| 17:28.04 | TC-Mobile | I wonder what the 5th class is going to be |
| 17:28.07 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:28.21 | Cide | ranged |
| 17:28.24 | jnwhiteh | anyone getting anything so far? |
| 17:28.25 | Ackis | Malgayne from wowhead forgot his press pass |
| 17:28.28 | TC-Mobile | Any guesses? |
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| 17:28.32 | Cide | how |
| 17:28.34 | Cide | can you do that |
| 17:28.51 | Ackis | do what? |
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| 17:29.11 | Cide | forget one's press pass |
| 17:29.25 | Ackis | no idea |
| 17:29.25 | Cide | that's like being indiana jones, getting to the holy grail, and forgetting to bring it back |
| 17:29.31 | Ackis | I forgot to buy stuff from the pre-sale |
| 17:29.35 | Ackis | shrugs |
| 17:29.38 | TC-Mobile | The same way you forget anything else |
| 17:29.46 | Grum | brrrr ... Error loading schedule IOERROR: [IOErrorEvent type="ioError" bubbles=false cancelable=false eventPhase=2 text="Error #2032"] |
| 17:29.47 | Cide | except the press pass is the holy grail |
| 17:29.58 | Cide | forgetting to take out the trash is not as serious |
| 17:30.06 | jnwhiteh | ive got the stream |
| 17:30.14 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:30.19 | jnwhiteh | and its gone. |
| 17:30.21 | Fisker | is it anything else but teh blizzcon.rayv.com? |
| 17:30.33 | jnwhiteh | https://shop.blizzcon.rayv.com/video/Live.aspx?ln=en takes you directly to the stream |
| 17:30.35 | jnwhiteh | login tho |
| 17:30.56 | Fisker | yeah |
| 17:31.07 | Fisker | but the one on the main page says "Upgrade now" |
| 17:31.14 | Kraps | um? |
| 17:31.30 | foxlit | Hm, it's a stage. |
| 17:32.12 | jnwhiteh | I don't have a stage yet |
| 17:32.15 | jnwhiteh | I'm commercial-ing |
| 17:32.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:32.41 | Grum | how awesome |
| 17:32.55 | jnwhiteh | well its a commercial for the live stream |
| 17:32.55 | Grum | the whole bloody site seems to only function semi properly with internte exploder |
| 17:32.56 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 17:32.56 | TC-Mobile | Hmm I'm getting surprisingly good reception and speed in the hall |
| 17:33.02 | jnwhiteh | I'm using firefox |
| 17:33.06 | jnwhiteh | on mac os x |
| 17:33.08 | jnwhiteh | works for me. |
| 17:33.11 | Grum | 'works' |
| 17:33.17 | Grum | i press 'hd off' and it all fucks off |
| 17:33.40 | Fisker | can't see if hd off is hd on or off |
| 17:34.09 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: what's your login for the site? e-mail or username? |
| 17:34.15 | jnwhiteh | username |
| 17:34.19 | Grum | username/pass for me |
| 17:34.26 | Fisker | depends what you set it for :P |
| 17:34.31 | pantsninja | Ackis: there's a username in the email they sent to you |
| 17:34.36 | Kraps | the enhanced player isnt working right now |
| 17:34.41 | Fisker | OH FUCK OFF GEOFF |
| 17:34.44 | pantsninja | Ackis: the username and pass are ones you picked |
| 17:34.54 | Fisker | "Deathy which is based off a character in cataclysm" |
| 17:34.56 | Ackis | yeah I signed up a few months ago :P |
| 17:35.03 | Fisker | what about main antagonist? |
| 17:35.04 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 17:35.07 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: this announcer is terrible =) |
| 17:35.10 | jnwhiteh | it'll be amusing. |
| 17:35.25 | Fisker | geoff is always terrible |
| 17:35.33 | Fisker | but he's kind of cute (in the non-homoerotic way) |
| 17:35.41 | jnwhiteh | you can just say 'no homo' |
| 17:35.42 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: hes pretty big in the tech world |
| 17:35.47 | jnwhiteh | like, I want to touch your penis. |
| 17:35.48 | jnwhiteh | no homo |
| 17:35.50 | pantsninja | I have it working in FF, but not IE |
| 17:35.51 | Fisker | :o |
| 17:36.05 | Fisker | can you do double negatives then? |
| 17:36.11 | Grum | amg something loaded |
| 17:36.11 | Fisker | like, i want to touch your penis |
| 17:36.14 | Fisker | no no homo |
| 17:36.17 | jnwhiteh | yes =) |
| 17:36.20 | Grum | it was a black screen for 2min |
| 17:36.22 | Grum | and then it worled |
| 17:36.41 | Fisker | beta pl0x |
| 17:36.46 | TC-Mobile | That's not a catch all excuse |
| 17:36.48 | Fisker | audio is low btw |
| 17:36.48 | Grum | but our screens are desynced by 14s :D |
| 17:37.23 | Grum | trying to do 'HD ON' .. black screen and some flutters of audio sofar |
| 17:37.33 | jnwhiteh | Hey, I'll take a delay as long as I get to watch it =) |
| 17:37.33 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 17:37.45 | Fisker | tell geoff keighley on twitter that i want to touch his penis (no homo) |
| 17:37.54 | Grum | but you are homo |
| 17:38.07 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 17:38.09 | jnwhiteh | i just lost my HD |
| 17:38.10 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 17:38.11 | jnwhiteh | its back now. |
| 17:38.12 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 17:38.34 | Fisker | i just lost sound |
| 17:38.36 | Fisker | + it's lagging |
| 17:38.37 | jnwhiteh | damnit, i got into a loop |
| 17:38.45 | jnwhiteh | i'm seeking. |
| 17:38.45 | TC-Mobile | "I want you to fuck me in the ass and cuddle after. No homo." Does not cut it |
| 17:38.52 | pantsninja | ok, stop talking about glitches. it's working for me |
| 17:38.57 | Ackis | wtf tennis? |
| 17:39.28 | Ackis | why is there tennis being streamed on the blizzcon thing? |
| 17:39.43 | pantsninja | Ackis: what channel? |
| 17:39.49 | Ackis | Main stage |
| 17:39.58 | pantsninja | uhh... |
| 17:39.59 | Shefki | hi guys |
| 17:40.01 | pantsninja | I'm not seeing that |
| 17:40.19 | TC-Mobile | Because nothing is on the stage yet |
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| 17:40.27 | Grum | HD seems fucked now |
| 17:41.10 | Ackis | hey Shefki |
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| 17:41.13 | Ackis | I like your tweets |
| 17:41.16 | Jamash | pete sampras is the 5th DIII class |
| 17:41.16 | Fisker | overselling ftw Grum ? |
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| 17:42.23 | pantsninja | oh no! My stream died!!! |
| 17:42.46 | Fisker | Deja Vu Realplayer, Deja Vu |
| 17:43.13 | TC-Mobile | Jamash, I meant real guesses |
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| 17:44.48 | Hirsute | Wow. Just had someone ask for help with addon problems and mention they used WoWMatrix to install their addons. |
| 17:44.54 | Hirsute | I didn't realize WoWMatrix was still around. |
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| 17:45.22 | Ackis | is a new diablo class the "big" announcement? |
| 17:45.26 | Maldivia | T - 15min :) |
| 17:45.39 | pantsninja | Shefki: Ok, my live stream died. You're gonna have to live tweet the opening ceremony. |
| 17:45.58 | Maldivia | pantsninja: the opening is free on http://blizzcon.rayv.com/ |
| 17:46.07 | Fisker | new mmo Ackis pl0x |
| 17:46.08 | pantsninja | Maldivia: that's what died |
| 17:46.15 | Maldivia | ohh, working fine for me |
| 17:46.32 | Shefki | ill try |
| 17:47.19 | Jamash | that is a real guess |
| 17:47.23 | Kraps | the lite player work fine |
| 17:48.00 | TC-Mobile | Ackis, one of then |
| 17:48.06 | Shefki | network is ass atm. getting off irc, will tweet @shefkiwow |
| 17:48.09 | Jamash | free eh |
| 17:48.12 | Jamash | cool |
| 17:48.15 | Kraps | spoke too soon? |
| 17:48.28 | TC-Mobile | Jamash, well it's a bad one then |
| 17:48.37 | Jamash | you're bad |
| 17:48.51 | Jamash | actually the 5th DIII class is South Korean |
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| 17:50.01 | Ackis | how do you NOT show up/ |
| 17:50.01 | Kraps | Jamash: thats racist |
| 17:50.02 | Ackis | wtf |
| 17:50.12 | Jamash | you're racist |
| 17:50.37 | Kraps | Jamash: NO U |
| 17:50.53 | Jamash | O RLY |
| 17:50.59 | Kraps | Ackis: his cat died |
| 17:51.00 | Ackis | I was thinking about proposing at blizzcon, instead I did it almost a year ago without pants on |
| 17:51.19 | Jamash | you should have done it at blizzcon without pants |
| 17:51.22 | Ackis | Kraps: ?????? |
| 17:51.31 | Kraps | YEAH YOU HEARD ME |
| 17:52.04 | Kraps | sc2 ftw |
| 17:52.05 | Fisker | oh well |
| 17:52.10 | Fisker | wtfudge Maldivia ! |
| 17:52.54 | Fisker | in b4 QQ on the forum about players getting the opening for free |
| 17:53.10 | Fisker | likely by the same people who went "QQ we have to pay for the internet stream" with the last blizzcon |
| 17:53.49 | mikma | http://fukung.net/v/30109/ae612773bf6b7a2a61d4f514a45a2187.jpg |
| 17:54.03 | pantsninja | I should go put this feed up on my TV |
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| 17:56.04 | Kraps | the word internet users hate the most: buffering |
| 17:56.05 | TC-Mobile | Ackis, you're such a geek |
| 17:56.45 | Fisker | hehe 5% left on the cat lady in ulduar |
| 17:56.48 | Fisker | then evade ;_; |
| 17:56.59 | Ackis | TC-Mobile: ? |
| 17:57.07 | TC-Mobile | Its starting |
| 17:57.24 | Lopeppeppy | Woooot! |
| 17:57.40 | Kraps | its not |
| 17:57.48 | Fisker | btw the new diablo class will obviously be amazon! |
| 17:57.52 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 17:57.54 | Lopeppeppy | Angel. |
| 17:57.55 | Fisker | except whatever they're gonna call it |
| 17:58.13 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy that precludes female version |
| 17:58.14 | Fisker | or procludes? |
| 17:58.14 | Fisker | idk |
| 17:58.20 | Fisker | get it? |
| 17:58.47 | TC-Mobile | Ackis your proposal thing |
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| 17:59.11 | Lopeppeppy | Angels are not gender specific. |
| 17:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | Haven't you seen Dogma? |
| 17:59.18 | Ackis | TC-Mobile: lol oh |
| 17:59.23 | Ackis | I actually considered it |
| 17:59.30 | Ackis | I'd be doing it this weekend |
| 17:59.33 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:59.39 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.40 | Fisker | no but they're affiliation specific Lopeppeppy |
| 17:59.40 | Fisker | BAM |
| 17:59.41 | Lopeppeppy | I thought you already did it? |
| 17:59.41 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.42 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.47 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.48 | TC-Mobile | Angel summoner and bmx biker, go |
| 17:59.49 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.50 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.54 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I did |
| 17:59.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, are they? There are good and bad ones, Fisker. |
| 17:59.55 | pantsninja | - |
| 17:59.56 | pantsninja | - |
| 18:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | pantsninja, please stop doing that. |
| 18:00.01 | pantsninja | - |
| 18:00.02 | Fisker | Shirik sucks |
| 18:00.02 | Kraps | pantsninja: wtf |
| 18:00.03 | pantsninja | - |
| 18:00.07 | pantsninja | - |
| 18:00.07 | Jamash | knock it off |
| 18:00.09 | pantsninja | sorry |
| 18:00.10 | pantsninja | cat |
| 18:00.21 | Kraps | liar |
| 18:00.22 | Jamash | a likely story |
| 18:00.25 | Kraps | :p |
| 18:00.32 | Dagmar | I wonder if perl has hooks for repeat floods |
| 18:00.33 | pantsninja | You didn't see the +++*** spam he was also doing >_< |
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| 18:01.01 | Fisker | zomg |
| 18:01.13 | Fisker | Diablo, starcraft 2 and wow is in the same timeline!11 |
| 18:01.14 | pantsninja | So, sorry. but seriously this cat is basement cat incarnate |
| 18:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | electrify the keyboard, pantsninja, never walk on it again. :) |
| 18:01.36 | Dagmar | You're still responsible for the things your cat does at your terminal. |
| 18:01.42 | pantsninja | Lopeppeppy: then I couldn't play WOW! |
| 18:01.48 | Lopeppeppy | Kinda like your minor child. |
| 18:01.51 | Lopeppeppy | pantsninja, learn to like pain? |
| 18:02.43 | Fisker | boooooooooooooooooooooring |
| 18:02.55 | Fisker | we want mike morhaime not tourguides ;_; |
| 18:02.58 | Fisker | NO |
| 18:03.02 | Fisker | srsly |
| 18:03.22 | Kraps | lol at Fisker |
| 18:03.27 | Fisker | empathy clap! |
| 18:03.32 | Fisker | or sympathy |
| 18:03.34 | pantsninja | http://i.imgur.com/yJrg3.jpg <-- stalking my cereal |
| 18:04.14 | Kraps | this is so cheesy i have to laugh |
| 18:04.37 | Fisker | somewhat Kraps |
| 18:04.47 | Fisker | i thought it was like fire escape procedures or some such shit |
| 18:04.48 | Ackis | If I dressed up for blizzcon, I'd dress up like Ackis Recipe List. |
| 18:04.59 | Fisker | i'd dress up like sexymap |
| 18:05.02 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie does that for my chicken, pantsninja. Cats are awesome. |
| 18:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | I could just be Peppy... it worked last time. |
| 18:05.22 | Kraps | did he get a haircut? |
| 18:05.36 | Ackis | he shaved |
| 18:05.58 | Kraps | hmm |
| 18:06.07 | pantsninja | Lopeppeppy: my other cat once killed my friend. She laid down on his laptop while he was doing bio break and ran him into a pack of spiders in LBRS. Then she turned off the laptop |
| 18:06.48 | Dagmar | THat's nothing. I've had a ferret assassinate my screen. |
| 18:07.01 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:07.21 | pantsninja | CLEAVAGE SHOT |
| 18:07.37 | Lopeppeppy | My cats sit quietly and watch, maybe occasionally Moose would stare intently when Mizzery was talking. She liked his voice on Vent. |
| 18:07.44 | Lopeppeppy | pets and electronics, such a disaster! |
| 18:07.57 | p3lim | anyone know a good IM client for linux that supports MSN and Facebook chat protocols? |
| 18:07.58 | Kraps | ha starwars |
| 18:08.10 | Fisker | FACEBOOK LOL p3lim |
| 18:08.12 | MuNk | pidgin |
| 18:08.35 | Dagmar | p3lim: pidgin is pretty much it, afaik. The default thing in Ubuntu does Facebook, but I don't know if it does MSN |
| 18:08.35 | Lopeppeppy | I do hear good things about Pidgin, true. |
| 18:08.52 | MuNk | pidgin or there is Digsby |
| 18:08.57 | MuNk | both are really the same thing |
| 18:09.17 | Fisker | lol left 2 die |
| 18:09.23 | p3lim | Fisker: most of my friends chat through facebook |
| 18:09.42 | p3lim | I use digsby on windows |
| 18:09.43 | Fisker | lol p3lim |
| 18:10.00 | MuNk | then use it on linux too then |
| 18:10.12 | Hirsute | p3lim: Depending on your OS, Digsby, Trillian, Pidgin |
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| 18:11.03 | p3lim | havent found an linux compatible version of digsby yet |
| 18:11.15 | Kraps | i helped! |
| 18:11.40 | p3lim | gotta do it through wine in that case |
| 18:11.55 | Fisker | zomg money |
| 18:12.08 | Kraps | zomg casuals |
| 18:12.21 | Ackis | that's a neat way to get rid of old hardware |
| 18:12.22 | Fisker | lol wat |
| 18:12.26 | Fisker | yeah Ackis |
| 18:12.30 | Fisker | then do data recovery on it |
| 18:12.30 | Fisker | ??? |
| 18:12.32 | Fisker | profit |
| 18:13.03 | Kraps | no one cares about china |
| 18:13.17 | Fisker | get on with the announcement :( |
| 18:13.37 | pantsninja | DOUBLE RAINBOW |
| 18:13.41 | pantsninja | haha |
| 18:13.56 | Murdous | jap riots over china |
| 18:14.00 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:14.13 | Kraps | justin bieber |
| 18:14.37 | p3lim | gotta start reading up on wine then :/ |
| 18:14.51 | Murdous | true story kera world knows |
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| 18:15.17 | Fisker | all that talk = slow news day |
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| 18:15.36 | Kraps | Fisker: i know it would be |
| 18:15.38 | pantsninja | all of this is partly for the benefit of the stock holders/Activision |
| 18:15.40 | Kraps | knew |
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| 18:15.57 | pantsninja | Steve Jobs says the same type of stuff when doing Apple announcements |
| 18:16.00 | Fisker | they've been working on that mmo a long time now Kraps! |
| 18:16.27 | Kraps | Fisker: sc2 also, whats your point? |
| 18:16.44 | Fisker | oh u Kraps |
| 18:17.30 | pantsninja | my legs are cold. I should put on pants |
| 18:17.44 | Murdous | any1 know how to make commands such as ping work on mirc? |
| 18:18.10 | pantsninja | um, try using /ctcp ping username? |
| 18:18.29 | mikma | murdous: /part on |
| 18:18.49 | Fisker | blizzard doesn't like tasteless |
| 18:19.33 | mikma | why did i read that as testicless |
| 18:22.29 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:22.35 | Dagmar | mikma: Too much internets |
| 18:22.36 | Fisker | TD, Rated R for Retarded |
| 18:22.44 | Ackis | did he just say that deathwing is japanese? |
| 18:22.45 | mikma | too much fisker, dickmar |
| 18:23.28 | Dagmar | Beg pardon? |
| 18:23.30 | Fisker | fail |
| 18:23.33 | Fisker | preorder cataclysm :( |
| 18:23.38 | Kraps | YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:23.41 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 18:23.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yes? |
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| 18:24.13 | Ackis | was that the big announcement? |
| 18:24.24 | foxlit | D3 date, perhaps |
| 18:24.38 | Jamash | ooooooooooooooo |
| 18:24.42 | Kraps | metzen! |
| 18:24.46 | foxlit | "We'll let you buy a cataclysm cd-key online is kind of silly" |
| 18:24.47 | Jamash | THE METZLER |
| 18:24.50 | pantsninja | I love Metzen |
| 18:24.55 | mikma | kraps: the reindeer? |
| 18:24.55 | Maldivia | it's always metzen that makes the announcements :) |
| 18:24.57 | pantsninja | he is so bad about staying on script |
| 18:25.13 | Lopeppeppy | What am script? |
| 18:25.43 | Dagmar | mikma: That's named after a dev. Chris Metzen IIRC. |
| 18:26.03 | Fisker | yeah foxlit |
| 18:26.08 | Jamash | FOR THE--- |
| 18:26.11 | Fisker | i already bought mine from a shitty online store |
| 18:26.15 | Kraps | pantsninja: but then he says "awesome" "yo" and other stuff which is great |
| 18:26.21 | mikma | what's the fuzz |
| 18:26.26 | pantsninja | Kraps: haha, yeah |
| 18:27.22 | *** part/#wowuidev Murdous (~Murdous@65.91.118.121) |
| 18:27.36 | Fisker | new mmo pl0x? |
| 18:27.42 | Ackis | new mmo? |
| 18:27.44 | Jamash | world of lost vikins |
| 18:27.56 | mikma | world of diablocraft |
| 18:28.24 | Jamash | ZERG |
| 18:28.47 | Maldivia | heart of the swarm? |
| 18:28.51 | Jamash | yes |
| 18:28.53 | foxlit | diablo |
| 18:28.56 | foxlit | clearly. |
| 18:29.09 | Jamash | parts of speech was the hint |
| 18:29.12 | Hirsute | http://notalwaysright.com/in-soviet-russia-language-speaks-you/7808 <--Win |
| 18:29.13 | Jamash | ZERG |
| 18:29.22 | mikma | oh i know |
| 18:29.26 | mikma | new expansion for wow |
| 18:29.35 | Jamash | FAIL |
| 18:29.36 | Kraps | fail? |
| 18:29.46 | Maldivia | geek :) |
| 18:29.48 | Jamash | boo |
| 18:30.41 | Ackis | OMG A TRANSFORMER MMO |
| 18:30.44 | foxlit | RayV player is clearly crap |
| 18:30.45 | mikma | notalwaysreal.com |
| 18:30.51 | Jamash | more than meets the eye |
| 18:30.57 | foxlit | Surprisingly, Flash looks better and buffers less :/ |
| 18:31.15 | Fisker | sloooooooooooooooooooooooow |
| 18:31.17 | Fisker | neeeeeeeeeeeeeeews |
| 18:31.19 | Fisker | daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
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| 18:32.02 | mikma | hey haste, lets kill fisker |
| 18:32.23 | Fisker | you wish mikma |
| 18:32.50 | Jamash | who is also the voice of the joker |
| 18:33.03 | Jamash | is that pern? |
| 18:33.14 | |Jelly| | http://media.fukung.net/images/31745/d6548822f8cc161a8a9c3b6aaf3ff382.jpg |
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| 18:33.28 | Jamash | BATMAN FUCK YEAH |
| 18:35.08 | Kraps | whos the chick with the gun? |
| 18:35.09 | Fisker | avengers being announced on blizzcon or some shit? |
| 18:35.15 | Jamash | Kraps: YOU FAIL |
| 18:35.21 | pantsninja | Kraps: FAIL |
| 18:35.26 | Jamash | sigourney weaver, aliens, james cameron |
| 18:35.40 | mikma | lol avatar lol |
| 18:35.41 | Kraps | hands in his nerd card |
| 18:35.47 | mikma | lol ghostbusters lol |
| 18:36.01 | foxlit | It's interesting that he's not touching anything blizzard-related |
| 18:36.06 | Jamash | boo everquest |
| 18:36.29 | mikma | irc, realtime blog |
| 18:36.47 | Jamash | there we go |
| 18:37.57 | Fisker | come on already |
| 18:37.59 | Kraps | yeah~ |
| 18:38.02 | Kraps | ! |
| 18:38.11 | pantsninja | they have to buy time until nearly noon |
| 18:38.16 | Jamash | ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL |
| 18:38.17 | pantsninja | well |
| 18:38.20 | Fisker | geek is wasting like 40 minutes on shit because you have nothing to announce |
| 18:38.21 | pantsninja | 11:45, probably |
| 18:38.40 | Jamash | some repetition here |
| 18:38.48 | Fisker | geek is repetition Jamash |
| 18:38.56 | Jamash | geek is repetition Fisker |
| 18:39.02 | Fisker | geek is repetition Jamash |
| 18:39.07 | Jamash | geek is repetition Fisker |
| 18:39.19 | Jamash | kingdom come |
| 18:39.20 | Fisker | geek is repetition Jamash |
| 18:41.01 | mikma | my guess is fisker is 12 |
| 18:41.18 | Fisker | geek is 12 mikma |
| 18:41.23 | mikma | old |
| 18:41.36 | mikma | try to think something else, that's childish |
| 18:41.44 | Jamash | here it comes |
| 18:41.57 | Kraps | he was delaying because he wanted to annoy you Fisker |
| 18:42.08 | Kraps | lol no announce date |
| 18:42.09 | Fisker | geek is childish mikma |
| 18:42.12 | Fisker | didn't you hear the speech? |
| 18:42.17 | Jamash | PANDAREN |
| 18:42.18 | mikma | thanks for proving my point again |
| 18:42.22 | Fisker | he didn't say they wouldn't announce a date Kraps ! |
| 18:42.37 | foxlit | Stole the costume from assassins creed |
| 18:42.45 | Fisker | assassin = amazon imo |
| 18:43.01 | Fisker | i hated the assassin :( |
| 18:43.17 | Jamash | I loved the assassin |
| 18:43.17 | Fisker | it's the hurt chick who is the new class |
| 18:43.19 | Fisker | i.e. amazon |
| 18:43.35 | Jamash | assassin is the best |
| 18:43.46 | Fisker | she sounds like that crazy british chick on dexter |
| 18:44.18 | mikma | "what the fuck do you know" |
| 18:44.25 | Jamash | well my sister was right |
| 18:44.33 | Jamash | ranged class |
| 18:44.38 | Fisker | i.e. amazon |
| 18:44.44 | Fisker | so i was right Jamash ! |
| 18:44.54 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60kGU03YcNg&feature=grec_index |
| 18:44.58 | Jamash | hottt |
| 18:45.27 | Fisker | lol demon hunter |
| 18:45.42 | Jamash | wewt |
| 18:45.56 | Fisker | not the only thing Kraps |
| 18:45.56 | Fisker | ! |
| 18:46.01 | Kraps | !!! |
| 18:46.03 | foxlit | date. |
| 18:46.07 | Fisker | bah |
| 18:46.08 | Kraps | lol component |
| 18:46.28 | Kraps | hands Fisker a tissue |
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| 18:46.39 | Fisker | hey i guessed the amazon |
| 18:47.21 | Ackis | new d3 is demon hunter? |
| 18:47.27 | Jamash | year |
| 18:47.30 | Jamash | yes |
| 18:47.30 | Fisker | year! |
| 18:47.35 | Fisker | ear* |
| 18:47.36 | Jamash | YARRR |
| 18:47.39 | Fisker | stop mindfucking me Jamash |
| 18:47.51 | Jamash | kills Fisker softly with his song. |
| 18:48.04 | Fisker | awesome |
| 18:48.06 | Kraps | dont stop Jamash |
| 18:48.18 | Jamash | rated m, for mawesome |
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| 18:49.26 | Fisker | nosoundformeoreveryoneelse? |
| 18:49.30 | Fisker | .com |
| 18:50.15 | Jamash | who touched my ass? |
| 18:50.30 | Fisker | i did |
| 18:50.32 | Fisker | no homo |
| 18:50.52 | Kraps | is hd working for anyone? |
| 18:51.06 | Fisker | wouldn't count on it |
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| 18:51.12 | Fisker | sd barely works |
| 18:51.49 | Kraps | im usint the lite player for now |
| 18:51.49 | foxlit | Meh, it says "HD on" |
| 18:51.54 | foxlit | dunno if it actually does anything |
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| 18:53.15 | Ackis | disappointing intro |
| 18:53.46 | Maldivia | kind of, yeah |
| 18:53.52 | Fisker | very |
| 18:53.56 | Maldivia | but then again, really nothing new t ointroduce |
| 18:54.00 | Ackis | they should've held onto the intro |
| 18:54.07 | Ackis | release date for D3 |
| 18:54.10 | Fisker | could atleast have teased a D3 beta |
| 18:54.11 | Ackis | new MMO |
| 18:54.15 | Ackis | beta for D3 |
| 18:54.19 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 18:54.26 | Fisker | gotta start sometime soon atleast |
| 18:54.26 | Maldivia | was hoping for something like that as well |
| 18:54.27 | Kraps | i said there was nothing, no one belived me |
| 18:54.36 | Fisker | "soon" being within the next half year or so |
| 18:54.59 | Maldivia | not even a mention of heart of the swarm |
| 18:55.10 | Fisker | well you also said having sex with your mom was amazing Kraps but we all know how that turned out |
| 18:55.39 | Kraps | oh fisker, you slay me |
| 18:55.45 | Ackis | I'm creating a demon hunter named illidan |
| 18:56.02 | durcyn | kill yourself |
| 18:56.11 | Fisker | i did Kraps |
| 18:56.47 | Kraps | whats with the popping mics? |
| 18:57.01 | Cide | if someone finds the d3 video link it |
| 18:57.17 | Maldivia | should be up on the official sites in a few minutes |
| 18:58.01 | Ackis | there was no big announcement |
| 18:58.03 | Kraps | omg metzen :( |
| 18:58.07 | Ackis | a class in D3 is NOT a big announcement |
| 18:58.14 | Maldivia | Cide: http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/movies/demonhunter.xml |
| 18:58.28 | Kraps | I KNEW IT |
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| 19:00.57 | Fisker | lol #3 issue of their magazine |
| 19:01.08 | Ackis | is metzen a dick irl? |
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| 19:01.34 | Kraps | Ackis: no u |
| 19:02.03 | Ackis | he's coming off as one kind of, but I don't know what he's really like |
| 19:02.06 | nicoli_s | poor bryan, curseforge goes down and he has to leave the opening ceremonies :( |
| 19:02.13 | Jamash | awww |
| 19:02.21 | Kraps | Ackis: why? |
| 19:02.39 | Ackis | lol nicoli_s |
| 19:02.53 | Ackis | Kraps: just his attitude/demenor |
| 19:03.28 | foxlit | Hm, I like the screen behind them. |
| 19:03.41 | foxlit | Wonder if it's something you could build (easily). |
| 19:04.16 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
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| 19:05.20 | Ackis | ok Kraps I guess it might just have been nerves, he seemed less dickish there |
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| 19:05.59 | Kraps | sc sinematics |
| 19:06.10 | Kraps | (sp) |
| 19:07.20 | Ackis | cinematics |
| 19:07.44 | Kraps | yes |
| 19:08.40 | Ackis | rts tourney stage is the cinematics |
| 19:08.52 | Ackis | development is the rts stuff |
| 19:09.01 | Jamash | so, when does the free stream cut out? |
| 19:09.16 | Ackis | already did |
| 19:09.20 | Ackis | or should have |
| 19:09.22 | Jamash | no? |
| 19:09.28 | Jamash | I'm still watching |
| 19:09.29 | Kraps | um no Ackis? |
| 19:09.45 | Kraps | cinematics are development stage |
| 19:10.24 | Fisker | i can't stream :( |
| 19:10.28 | Ackis | Kraps: that's the schedule |
| 19:10.32 | Fisker | i can actually raid |
| 19:10.34 | Ackis | but the buttons on the stream are mixed up |
| 19:10.34 | Fisker | that sucks |
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| 19:11.07 | Kraps | no, i clicked the dev stage on top and it worked |
| 19:11.13 | Jamash | wat is this |
| 19:11.17 | Ackis | not for me Kraps |
| 19:11.25 | Jamash | there's some dude with guitars |
| 19:12.20 | Jamash | switching to rts stage |
| 19:13.52 | Kraps | you may be right |
| 19:15.39 | Kraps | i might switch between this and d3 |
| 19:18.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
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| 19:18.34 | Ackis | you guys can go back and watch the stuff you missed you know |
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| 19:19.06 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 19:19.22 | TC-Mobile | Old fisker |
| 19:19.48 | Kraps | Ackis: yeah just thought of that |
| 19:19.54 | Fisker | old TC-Mobile |
| 19:20.18 | TC-Mobile | Old fisker |
| 19:20.25 | Fisker | old TC-Mobile |
| 19:21.01 | Kraps | um now both are wc games |
| 19:21.10 | Kraps | ah k |
| 19:21.55 | Fisker | so male demo hunter = 1 man wooing in the audience |
| 19:21.56 | Fisker | ;E |
| 19:21.58 | TC-Mobile | Meh I have no up arrow |
| 19:22.00 | Fisker | demon* |
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| 19:22.45 | Kraps | Fisker: ? |
| 19:24.01 | Maldivia | looks like lara croft :) |
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| 19:24.51 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 19:24.53 | Fisker | ! |
| 19:25.50 | Kraps | wow they act out all the in-game scenes in sc2 to see the physics |
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| 19:29.14 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 19:29.18 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 19h 35m 47s ago, saying: 'everything.'. |
| 19:29.32 | p3lim | got some issues with github and ssh keys :/ |
| 19:30.05 | cbreak | what kind of issue? |
| 19:30.25 | p3lim | running 'ssh -v git@github.com' returns this: Agent admitted failure to sign using the key |
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| 19:30.41 | p3lim | right after offering the rsa key |
| 19:31.07 | Hirsute | Crap |
| 19:31.26 | cbreak | is it the correct key? |
| 19:31.44 | Hirsute | I just realized the pictures I just spent the last 3 hours taking on the microscope here may be mislabeled, and the only way to know/fix is to redo at least half the pictures. |
| 19:31.48 | p3lim | yeah, I just cleaned out the .ssh dir, did a fresh keygen and added it to github |
| 19:32.10 | cbreak | you added the public key, right? |
| 19:32.14 | p3lim | yeah |
| 19:32.18 | p3lim | id_rsa.pub |
| 19:32.20 | cbreak | do you use ssh-agent? |
| 19:32.29 | p3lim | which is? |
| 19:32.39 | cbreak | it stores the decrypted private key in memory |
| 19:32.46 | cbreak | so you don't have to enter the pass poem every time |
| 19:32.51 | p3lim | ah, no |
| 19:33.03 | p3lim | havent added anything like that (yet) |
| 19:33.11 | p3lim | its a fresh install of git |
| 19:33.23 | p3lim | only got git-core, git-gui and gitk |
| 19:33.27 | cbreak | just type ssh-add |
| 19:33.31 | cbreak | it should ask you for password |
| 19:33.36 | cbreak | ssh-add is not git related |
| 19:33.43 | durcyn | just install keychain and be done with it |
| 19:34.16 | p3lim | ssh-add did the trick |
| 19:34.29 | cbreak | seems it didn't offer the key to the server |
| 19:34.37 | cbreak | don't ask me why |
| 19:34.55 | p3lim | just did ssh-add, then ssh git@github.com returned what it should |
| 19:35.06 | p3lim | durcyn: what is keychain? |
| 19:35.12 | cbreak | yep, as expected with that problem |
| 19:35.41 | durcyn | p3lim: ssh-agent wrapper, sets things up automatically |
| 19:35.43 | cbreak | keychain is the mac os x system password/cert/... manager |
| 19:35.49 | durcyn | no, not that keychain |
| 19:35.53 | cbreak | :) |
| 19:35.58 | p3lim | hm, maybe i should take a look into that |
| 19:36.06 | cbreak | the mac os x ssh-agent is nicely integrated |
| 19:36.26 | durcyn | if you're logged into the console, yes |
| 19:36.40 | cbreak | who isn't? :) |
| 19:36.58 | durcyn | i have a headless mini server i use sometimes |
| 19:37.49 | haste | it's possible to use passwordless keys as well |
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| 19:38.20 | kd3|netbook | hi from 2 rows back sixen |
| 19:38.24 | kd3|netbook | smirks |
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| 19:38.36 | Sixen | lol kd3 |
| 19:38.42 | Sixen | sandwhich looks good bro |
| 19:38.45 | kd3|netbook | it is |
| 19:38.55 | p3lim | haste: you mean not using password for the ssh key? |
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| 19:39.20 | p3lim | id rather use an ssh-agent or something instead |
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| 19:41.00 | Fisker | hey kd3|netbook |
| 19:41.04 | haste | the security is about the same in the end |
| 19:41.04 | Fisker | i'm the one poking you in the butt |
| 19:41.07 | Fisker | (no homo) |
| 19:41.13 | kd3|netbook | uh-huh, sure |
| 19:41.50 | cbreak | ssh-agent is more secure than unencrypted key because ssh-agent only has the decrypted key in memory, not on disk |
| 19:41.59 | cbreak | also, it tries to not give the key out to anyone |
| 19:42.13 | p3lim | well you shouldnt hand out your ssh key to everyone :p |
| 19:42.14 | cbreak | also, the unencrypted key only exists temporarily |
| 19:42.20 | p3lim | anyways, relocating, cya |
| 19:42.34 | cbreak | (where temporarily means until you throw it out of the agent) |
| 19:42.35 | cbreak | bb |
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| 19:48.56 | Kraps | what will secrets of the masters? |
| 19:49.01 | Kraps | be? |
| 19:50.27 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/browse/15986/not_meant_for_pursuits.gif |
| 19:57.11 | Lulia | TGA files are supposed to support transparency, no? |
| 19:58.41 | Maldivia | the D3 skill looks SO awesome!! |
| 19:59.21 | Maldivia | Lulia: they support alpha channels |
| 20:00.35 | Kraps | i was actually wondering if there was pvp in D3 |
| 20:01.09 | Fisker | you obviously didn't watch the opening cerimony then |
| 20:01.09 | Fisker | bam |
| 20:01.19 | cbreak | Lulia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truevision_TGA |
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| 20:01.40 | Kraps | Fisker: before that genius |
| 20:01.55 | haste | mikma: lol |
| 20:03.03 | Fisker | sounds like madcuzbad syndrome Kraps |
| 20:03.25 | Kraps | lulz |
| 20:05.20 | Kraps | cool nova |
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| 20:06.40 | Lulia | Thanks guys, I'll look up that link |
| 20:07.21 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27397541837&sid=1 |
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| 20:10.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:10.17 | Kraps | blahblahblah |
| 20:15.24 | zenzelezz | "In the coming months we'll also be auctioning off real-life World of Warcraft realm hardware previously used to run some realms you may have played on, with all of the net proceeds from this auction going to charity." |
| 20:15.29 | zenzelezz | somehow... that seems funky |
| 20:16.00 | cbreak | well... you want old hamsters? |
| 20:16.08 | cbreak | they are probably near death anyway... |
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| 20:17.23 | Jamash | SUP |
| 20:18.46 | Sixen | btw, #diablofans for Diablo Info. |
| 20:18.47 | kd3|netbook | new cataclysm b-roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYnTx4nijg |
| 20:19.28 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.47 | durcyn | i kind of want to see what kind of hardware they were using |
| 20:19.55 | Jamash | p90 |
| 20:20.00 | durcyn | also, someone's going to forget to wipe a drive somewhere |
| 20:20.05 | Jamash | lawls |
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| 20:23.34 | Maldivia | lol.... and the stream changed to murray vs federer ! |
| 20:24.44 | zenzelezz | "Chris Metzen confirmed that all the "big" announcements were made during the opening ceremony."... I hope that wasn't the case... or this year will lack oomph |
| 20:25.01 | kd3|netbook | blizzcon fell at an odd time this year |
| 20:25.16 | Kraps | zenzelezz: i predicted this |
| 20:25.20 | kd3|netbook | also, to the r&d panel |
| 20:25.21 | Maldivia | blizzcon is a community event, not a PR event |
| 20:25.44 | durcyn | Maldivia: still, you kind of expect to see bobby kotick with his hand out now |
| 20:25.44 | zenzelezz | Kraps: a lot of people predicted this, I just chose to have some hope |
| 20:25.54 | Kraps | what will secrets of the masters be? |
| 20:26.15 | Maldivia | durcyn: was hoping some nextgen mmo og d3 beta info... heck, even heart of the swarm |
| 20:27.06 | durcyn | announcing the new mmo with cataclysm not even on shelves yet? hah. |
| 20:27.25 | Maldivia | well, it would be 3-4 years before it would be released, at least... so? |
| 20:27.29 | durcyn | you're insufficiently pessimistic i think =P |
| 20:28.01 | Jamash | the next-gen mmo will come out shortly after starcraft: ghost |
| 20:28.03 | zenzelezz | PR event or not, I still hope for some big announcement every year |
| 20:28.13 | Jamash | demon hunter is pretty rad imo |
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| 20:30.19 | durcyn | the d3 pvp thing is disappointing, it's supposed to be unbalanced, dammit |
| 20:30.33 | Maldivia | which part? |
| 20:30.45 | Jamash | eh, they gotta have their esport nonsense |
| 20:30.52 | durcyn | the arena crap, i mean |
| 20:31.04 | Jamash | whatever yo |
| 20:31.10 | Fisker | applies non-critical kd3's |
| 20:31.10 | Maldivia | well, they know that 1v1 is unbalanced, so they allow teams to support eachother |
| 20:31.29 | durcyn | their target market for that is sitting on a couch playing xbox with their frat "bros" though |
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| 20:40.38 | Lulia | Bleh, I couldn't find info about transparency in that wiki for TGA |
| 20:41.22 | batrick | Shirik: you didn't pick me out a speaker :( |
| 20:42.32 | Fisker | hey batrick |
| 20:43.21 | Fisker | lol blizzard is drawing penises with dungeons |
| 20:44.29 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/30Wxx.jpg |
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| 20:44.37 | Jamash | http://us.blizzard.com/diablo3/characters/demonhunter.xml |
| 20:44.50 | Jamash | yay? |
| 20:45.03 | Fisker | old |
| 20:45.10 | Jamash | you're old |
| 20:45.13 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:45.32 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/caption-this-picture17.jpeg?w=500&h=333 |
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| 20:45.36 | Ackis | Fisker: I'm dead |
| 20:45.43 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 20:46.06 | jnwhiteh | This is a bit of a dumb question, but if I'm looking for a guild on my realm, how do I go about finding one that isn't just one spamming in /lfg? |
| 20:46.07 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 20:46.09 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 20:46.22 | Fisker | try the realm forums |
| 20:46.37 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: official realm forums, inofficial realm forums |
| 20:46.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah i'll try that. |
| 20:47.04 | Fisker | inofficial nevcairiel ? |
| 20:47.07 | Fisker | sounds very german of you |
| 20:47.11 | Ackis | nein |
| 20:47.18 | nevcairiel | our realm has its own domain and fourm on there |
| 20:47.19 | Fisker | javohl |
| 20:47.23 | nevcairiel | although i havent been there for years |
| 20:47.28 | nevcairiel | dunno if its still up |
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| 20:53.01 | Fisker | so there you |
| 20:53.04 | Fisker | 4.0 is not shipped yet |
| 20:53.07 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 20:53.17 | Kraps | talking about 4.1 |
| 20:53.42 | Fisker | he said 4.0 Kraps |
| 20:53.46 | Fisker | though he obviously meant cataclysm |
| 20:53.55 | Kraps | oh i just saw you |
| 20:53.56 | Fisker | but imma nitpick |
| 20:53.58 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 20:54.02 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 20:54.16 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 20:54.26 | Kraps | lol image of ragnaros |
| 20:54.35 | Kraps | it was a setback |
| 20:55.07 | Fisker | setbacks are old |
| 20:55.20 | durcyn | i hope they get kael's voice actor for him |
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| 20:58.24 | Ackis | oculus was fun |
| 20:58.59 | durcyn | you get to ride a sea-horse vehicle around and fight a shark, right? |
| 21:00.37 | Fisker | yay something awesome? |
| 21:00.52 | Kraps | what, maps? |
| 21:01.24 | Fisker | fail |
| 21:01.26 | Fisker | that's old news |
| 21:01.26 | Computerpunk | hmmm |
| 21:01.31 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:01.33 | Computerpunk | I so want a Partner for coding. |
| 21:01.33 | Fisker | moar |
| 21:01.37 | Computerpunk | lone projects are lonely |
| 21:01.50 | Kraps | d2 eh? |
| 21:01.58 | Ackis | ouch to atlasloot |
| 21:02.00 | Kraps | what is that? |
| 21:02.34 | Fisker | what the fuck is he smoking? |
| 21:03.28 | Fisker | so plugging wowhead eh? |
| 21:03.55 | Kraps | the hell are 2d maps? |
| 21:04.17 | Fisker | a map in 2d? |
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| 21:06.08 | Fisker | lightning elementals look fucking cool :o |
| 21:07.09 | Fisker | they need to make inception style raids! |
| 21:07.31 | Fisker | fuck off and learn2loot |
| 21:08.52 | Fisker | omg |
| 21:08.52 | Ackis | kermit the frog? |
| 21:09.03 | Fisker | why is this always stupidQ&A? |
| 21:09.29 | Ackis | because you aren't there |
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| 21:09.37 | Kraps | Fisker: y so hate? |
| 21:10.06 | Fisker | i think i'm gonna ask: What the system requirements are, what the release date is, what the price is going to be and when the beta starts |
| 21:10.34 | Ackis | wasn't that the same question? |
| 21:10.35 | Fisker | lol wat? |
| 21:10.36 | Ackis | derpaderp |
| 21:10.42 | Fisker | heroics easier than lk normal? |
| 21:10.53 | Fisker | WAT? |
| 21:10.57 | Fisker | WAT?! |
| 21:10.58 | Kraps | Fisker: you suck, you know that? |
| 21:11.16 | Ackis | no |
| 21:11.16 | Fisker | LK is super easy on normal |
| 21:11.19 | Ackis | he doesn't |
| 21:11.24 | Ackis | Fisker: be my guild mate? |
| 21:11.34 | Fisker | heck i think even rotface is harder than LK normal |
| 21:11.45 | Ackis | Fisker: http://twitter.com/#!/Malgayne/status/28440141896 |
| 21:11.57 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 21:12.19 | Fisker | next year they need me to take questions |
| 21:12.25 | Fisker | and give me an axe |
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| 21:12.37 | Fisker | OMG |
| 21:12.43 | Fisker | that's the exact fucking reason they're making it |
| 21:12.53 | Fisker | rages |
| 21:13.09 | Ackis | http://twitpic.com/2zvvrw |
| 21:13.12 | Kraps | hands fisker a chillaxative |
| 21:13.28 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
| 21:14.26 | Kraps | doo rag sup |
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| 21:14.45 | Ackis | Fisker: that was a good question IMO |
| 21:14.55 | Fisker | not bad atleat |
| 21:15.00 | Fisker | but why haven't they considered that already? |
| 21:15.25 | Fisker | also a decent question |
| 21:15.27 | Ackis | trims the suck and sees Fisker go bye bye |
| 21:15.36 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs786.snc4/66643_442363760266_641465266_5502671_6490367_n.jpg < It's a Jersey thing |
| 21:15.46 | Fisker | bam Ackis |
| 21:16.06 | Kraps | A-KO: is that fiskers? |
| 21:16.46 | A-KO | lol no Kraps :P |
| 21:17.31 | Kraps | moving the vc portal OMG CASUALS |
| 21:19.29 | Fisker | oh man |
| 21:19.34 | Fisker | this guy is RAIDING 5-MAN HEROICS |
| 21:19.37 | Fisker | not normals |
| 21:19.38 | Ackis | nicoli_s: tell Kaelten not to go swimming: http://on.cnn.com/bbJKyL |
| 21:19.38 | Fisker | BUT HEROICS |
| 21:19.54 | Kraps | Fisker: he > you |
| 21:20.07 | Fisker | naw Kraps |
| 21:21.36 | Fisker | insanity on c'thun? |
| 21:21.41 | Fisker | teh fuck? |
| 21:21.47 | Fisker | i don't even recall that |
| 21:22.08 | Kraps | Meters? OMG CASUALS |
| 21:23.04 | Fisker | naw |
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| 21:24.51 | Fisker | "i just figured out what to ask" |
| 21:24.52 | Fisker | gtfo |
| 21:25.00 | Ackis | no u |
| 21:25.36 | Ackis | 10 minute question ftl |
| 21:25.44 | Kraps | lolol |
| 21:25.45 | Fisker | haha |
| 21:25.50 | Fisker | sellouts lols |
| 21:26.00 | Fisker | nice spin mr. spindoctor |
| 21:26.00 | Kraps | ? |
| 21:26.52 | Ackis | how to you cascade raid lockouts then? :( |
| 21:29.59 | Ackis | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/22/iraq-war-logs-military-leaks |
| 21:30.03 | Ackis | Fisker: r u wikileak? |
| 21:31.11 | Kraps | i must go |
| 21:31.20 | Fisker | i wish Ackis |
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| 21:41.47 | |Jelly| | I love when people require you to link achievements that they don't have themselves. |
| 21:43.09 | Dagmar | That doesn't necessarily mean they don't have it on their main |
| 21:44.13 | foxlit | Dagmar: It's not their main I'm raiding with, though. |
| 21:44.17 | |Jelly| | Well, he's an officer of the guild he's in so I assumed that was his main .. unless he's in multiple guilds (possible) or the GM (possible). But still, he made me log on my alt to link him KS. :| |
| 21:44.20 | foxlit | Or some similar retort. |
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| 21:46.22 | Dagmar | Good luck with making them log to their alt to link the achievement |
| 21:46.40 | |Jelly| | Well, I did. Starting at LK is gg for me. |
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| 22:10.49 | Computerpunk | fire, water, air and derp. |
| 22:10.54 | Computerpunk | f***ing magnets |
| 22:10.56 | Computerpunk | how do they work? |
| 22:13.48 | Computerpunk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjO_VXHxsRw |
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| 22:16.55 | Lulia | When referencing file names in lua files for an addon, where's the default location that it starts looking from? |
| 22:18.36 | Maldivia | for toc-files, it's the folder in which the toc is in, for xml/lua, the wow-root folder |
| 22:19.30 | Maldivia | so if you have a texture, you want to to texture:SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\MyAddOn\\MyTexture") |
| 22:20.58 | MuNk | whats the texture for the tick and X for ready? |
| 22:21.18 | Lulia | Thanks, Maldivia. |
| 22:21.29 | Maldivia | munk: check the framexml code :P |
| 22:21.35 | Lulia | The double slash in order to escape the slash? |
| 22:21.41 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:21.45 | MuNk | >.> infact didn't think of that |
| 22:22.09 | Maldivia | munk: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/ |
| 22:24.04 | Maldivia | munk: for instance check the first few lines in ReadyCheck.lua |
| 22:24.13 | Lulia | I can set edgeFile to nil? |
| 22:24.25 | MuNk | =] |
| 22:24.26 | MuNk | ty |
| 22:24.43 | Maldivia | Lulia: just don't specify it then |
| 22:25.09 | Maldivia | and yes you can (and backdrops are a bit buggy, the texture is stretched vertically, not tiled) |
| 22:25.13 | Lulia | But I need to specify the tile, etc, no? |
| 22:25.16 | Lulia | Oh |
| 22:25.35 | Lulia | Well, I'm sort of browsing through the API, not sure of the best way to set an image on a frame. |
| 22:25.50 | Lulia | It's all a learning process :) |
| 22:26.01 | Maldivia | you want a single image or a background that repeats? |
| 22:26.25 | Maldivia | for single image, create a texture, anchor it to where you want it to be, and set the image on that texture |
| 22:26.50 | Maldivia | for something that repeats, use backdrop (and hope they fix backdrop tiling for next patch) |
| 22:28.10 | Lulia | It's just a single image. |
| 22:28.25 | Lulia | How do I make sure the texture is a child of the frame? That's done when I anchor it to the frame? |
| 22:28.39 | Maldivia | you creating it in xml or lua ? |
| 22:29.12 | Maldivia | if in xml, then it's about the nesting, if in lua, then local texture = frame:CreateTexture(nil, "BACKGROUND") |
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| 22:29.58 | Maldivia | and if you want the texture to fille the entire frame, texture:SetAllPoints(frame) |
| 22:30.24 | Lulia | Creating it in lua. |
| 22:30.35 | Lulia | Thanks :) |
| 22:31.07 | Maldivia | in the above example I used the BACKGROUND layer |
| 22:31.45 | Maldivia | there are 5 layers, from bottom to top: BACKGROUND, BORDER, ARTWORK, OVERLAY, HIGHLIGHT |
| 22:31.52 | Lulia | Right now my frame is set to MEDIUM |
| 22:32.03 | Lulia | The layers are within the frame itself? |
| 22:32.18 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:32.19 | Lulia | And the strata is where all the frames mingle? |
| 22:32.30 | Lulia | That makes sense I guess |
| 22:33.19 | Maldivia | strata determines how frames stack on top of eachother, layers determines how textures in frames stack on top of eachother |
| 22:33.44 | Lulia | That makes sense :) |
| 22:33.49 | Maldivia | and then within each strata, the frame level can be used to determined it more precisely |
| 22:35.33 | Lulia | So my frame is in the medium strata, but the texture would be in the background level of the frame |
| 22:35.43 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 22:35.52 | Lulia | I'll see if I can get that working :) |
| 22:36.00 | Maldivia | as far as I remember, a frame cannot have a lower strata than its parent |
| 22:36.05 | Lulia | Unfortunately the tga isn't transparent like I'd hoped, so it's going to be ugly. |
| 22:36.16 | Maldivia | use png instead |
| 22:36.45 | Lulia | I thought those didn't work |
| 22:37.18 | Maldivia | hmm, can't remember if they do, or if I usually use the blpconverter on the png files... |
| 22:37.28 | Maldivia | but there are tools to convert blp <-> png |
| 22:38.00 | cbreak | transparency in tga works fine. |
| 22:38.08 | Lulia | When I saved it in photoshop |
| 22:38.15 | Lulia | It didn't preserve the transparency |
| 22:38.20 | Lulia | It saved it with a white background |
| 22:38.24 | Maldivia | make sure to check "save alpha channel" |
| 22:38.29 | cbreak | ha. ha. you paid thousands of dollars to adobe in vain :D |
| 22:38.33 | cbreak | I used The Gimp |
| 22:38.42 | cbreak | which worked |
| 22:39.14 | Lulia | It didn't have a "save alpha channel" option :-/ |
| 22:39.37 | Maldivia | there should be, make sure you select 32-bit tga then |
| 22:39.57 | Lulia | I did select that |
| 22:40.05 | Lulia | I didnt have an alpha channel in it before |
| 22:40.06 | Lulia | Just made one |
| 22:40.31 | Lulia | never worked with alpha channels before |
| 22:41.46 | Maldivia | alpha channels determines the tranlucency |
| 22:41.47 | Lulia | Ah, "save alpha channels" is in the actual save dialog box, but it's checked on by default anyways |
| 22:42.12 | Lulia | Then it asks if I want to save it in 16, 24, or 32 bit |
| 22:42.20 | Lulia | And if I want RLE compression |
| 22:43.09 | Maldivia | the lighter the alpha channnel the more translucent that part of the image is |
| 22:43.38 | foxlit | lua> t = {hi=there} print(t); |
| 22:43.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: table: 0x885a728 |
| 22:44.35 | cbreak | Maldivia: isn't alpha exactly the opposite? at 100% it's solid, at 0% it's transparent |
| 22:44.51 | Maldivia | might be, I always get it mixed up :) |
| 22:44.53 | foxlit | cbreak: what you're describing is opacity |
| 22:45.09 | cbreak | alpha channel. |
| 22:45.11 | foxlit | wow messes up in that respect. |
| 22:45.38 | cbreak | I can't think of a file format where 0 would mean solid and 255 transparent |
| 22:45.52 | Maldivia | yeah, black = transparent, white = opaque |
| 22:46.38 | Maldivia | cbreak: I always end up having to invert my alpha channels, because I mix them up :) |
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| 22:46.57 | cbreak | and this is semantics, but 0 in alpha channel is as much black as it is in blue channel :) |
| 22:47.49 | Maldivia | yeah yeah, but most programs show the alpha channel (when modifying it directly) in greyscale :) |
| 22:48.12 | foxlit | cbreak: while not a file format, CSS alpha is specified in terms of opacity |
| 22:48.18 | cbreak | Hmm... I usually manipulate alpha channel with a C api :/ |
| 22:48.49 | cbreak | OpenCV is crazy :) |
| 22:49.23 | Lulia | The alpha channel in photoshop was red at 50% opacity |
| 22:49.46 | Lulia | However, saved it and... |
| 22:49.50 | Lulia | Still a white background |
| 22:49.54 | Maldivia | hmm, it's usually the mask that's red in photoshop |
| 22:50.17 | Lulia | Well the box itself in the editor is black |
| 22:50.36 | Lulia | But when I double click on it |
| 22:50.38 | Lulia | I get color: red |
| 22:50.50 | Lulia | It indicated the masked areas, as you said |
| 22:50.53 | cbreak | you should use gimp |
| 22:50.56 | Lulia | opacity 0 |
| 22:51.11 | cbreak | I found it a rather bearable experience |
| 22:52.22 | Maldivia | this is why I usually work with png, so I don't have to play with alpha channels directly, and can just save the semi-transparent file as is, and convert using blp converter :) |
| 22:52.57 | Fisker | wanna kill Maldivia Maldivia ? |
| 22:53.06 | cbreak | png has alpha channel just like targa |
| 22:53.13 | Maldivia | yeah, I know |
| 22:53.13 | cbreak | I fail to see how there's a difference |
| 22:53.43 | Maldivia | but photoshop saves the transparency to png, it doesn't for tga unless you specifically create an alpha channel |
| 22:54.12 | Lulia | Yeah, at this point I think I might just grab a blp converter |
| 22:54.18 | Lulia | Unless there's some major reason to not use blp |
| 22:54.27 | cbreak | maybe photoshop sucks. |
| 22:54.39 | cbreak | Lulia: targa has one big advantage over the other two |
| 22:54.51 | Maldivia | why photoshop just doesn't auto create the alpha channel based on the transparency of the image I have no idea |
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| 22:55.02 | cbreak | you can write them in a hex editor |
| 22:55.18 | Lulia | I dont know anything about hex editors... >> |
| 22:55.23 | Lulia | I just want a transparent image |
| 22:57.27 | Dagmar | No, photoshop is just really goddamn stubborn about being stuck up on print media |
| 22:57.32 | Maldivia | Lulia: in photoshop, select all the transparent parts, go to channels, create an alpha channel, while you still have the selection, make that selection black, and the other part white, save |
| 22:57.44 | Dagmar | This is why you have to tell it very firmly "I WANT AN ALPHA CHANNEL" like that |
| 22:58.03 | Lulia | The problem is that the image has some glowy parts |
| 22:58.16 | Lulia | So there's some fully transparent parts and some "semi-transparent" parts |
| 22:58.18 | Dagmar | Lulia: They're in layers tho right? |
| 22:58.35 | Maldivia | then save as png and convert to blp :) |
| 22:58.40 | Lulia | The glow is a layer effect of one of the layers |
| 22:59.12 | Dagmar | Okay, I was just worried you'd "baked them in" on a non-alpha'd layer or something |
| 22:59.25 | Maldivia | or heck, save as png, open in gimp/paint.net/etc and save as tga :) |
| 22:59.38 | Dagmar | You're fine once you convince Photoshop that you want the result to have an alpha channel |
| 22:59.45 | cbreak | I think wow can read png? |
| 22:59.55 | Maldivia | cant remember if it can or not :) |
| 22:59.59 | Dagmar | Maldivia: Gimp has plugins, and no fear of blp files either |
| 23:00.44 | Maldivia | Dagmar: photoshop is just really stupid when it comes to tga and alpha, there should just be an "auto create alpha for this image" setting when saving |
| 23:01.19 | Dagmar | Maldivia: I wouldn't call it stupid, but it's definitely stubborn about believing all images are fully opaque until you tell it otherwise |
| 23:01.38 | Dagmar | It's one of the reasons I stopped using it and started using Gimp all the time instead |
| 23:02.19 | Maldivia | Dagmar: yeah, I don't really see why it thinks that when the background layer is unlocked |
| 23:02.34 | Dagmar | Mainly, that you _have_ a background layer, IIRC |
| 23:02.59 | Dagmar | Gimp will do the same thing, but only after you've made a layer _named_ Background and put it in the bottom of the stack. |
| 23:03.01 | Maldivia | well, unlocking it makes you not have a background layer :) |
| 23:03.11 | Dagmar | No, it just makes it temporarily hidden. |
| 23:03.14 | Dagmar | It doesn't mean it's not still there. |
| 23:03.45 | Maldivia | the layer is there, but it's not the background anymore, it's an overlay for a transparent background |
| 23:04.25 | Maldivia | when unlocking it, it goes from "background" to "layer 0" |
| 23:04.47 | Maldivia | anyway, bedtime |
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| 23:12.16 | kd3|netbook | now at the sc2/b.net press conference. any questions you want me to ask? |
| 23:14.06 | Computerpunk | Are they planning to release a Warcraft 4? |
| 23:14.24 | Tuller | thunder cougar falcon bird |
| 23:14.43 | kd3|netbook | Computerpunk, no. that got asked earlier today |
| 23:14.54 | Computerpunk | Dayum. |
| 23:15.35 | cbreak | just strangle them for screwing up SC2 on OS X pleaase. |
| 23:15.46 | cbreak | oh, and kick them in the face for the real ID crap |
| 23:17.48 | Dagmar | Now now, they learned their lesson about RealID and no one had to be bullied to death over it. |
| 23:18.07 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.29 | cbreak | I still have my real name on the interface. |
| 23:19.04 | cbreak | despite disabling the whole real id stuff in battle.net |
| 23:19.21 | cbreak | (most of it seems to have vanished or at least is disabled) |
| 23:20.08 | Jamash | TOO SOON! YOU HAVE AWAKENED ME TOO SOON, EXECUTUS! WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS INTRUSION? |
| 23:20.45 | cbreak | that guy needs his morning tea/coffee. |
| 23:25.42 | Computerpunk | Jamash, wait, wat? |
| 23:25.49 | p3lim | anything good from blizzcon yet? |
| 23:25.58 | Jamash | Computerpunk: nothin' |
| 23:33.31 | kd3|netbook | cross-region play is kinda in the cards, but blizz refuses to let crappy gameplay happen because of latency issues |
| 23:33.37 | kd3|netbook | no announcements as of yet, but they're thinking about it |
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| 23:35.06 | Jamash | soooo if you have a crafting window up and you shift-click on an item in your inventory it'll perform a search for that item? |
| 23:35.18 | Jamash | like it does in the AH? |
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| 23:36.24 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QIXJZnyc9k |
| 23:36.28 | Wobin | I'm impressed |
| 23:36.34 | Wobin | especially the 'last level' |
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| 23:37.42 | SqueeG | what's the issue with HH? |
| 23:38.00 | kd3|netbook | turn off your tooltips and you can click on the pumpkin |
| 23:38.02 | Wobin | SqueeG: isn't it the usual cogwheel issue? |
| 23:38.09 | Dagmar | Pumpkins kill. |
| 23:38.57 | A-KO | horde wins |
| 23:39.05 | A-KO | Oh I just have to say it, you know Thrall is a shaman now. So what Aspect is missing from the family? Neltharion is out, the family has been broken for 10,000 years, what of the 5 aspects are you missing? Earth. So I'm just saying. Maybe that's a way Thrall can distinguish himself helping the family back together for a big win. |
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| 23:40.19 | SqueeG | i hid my Ui and still DC'd |
| 23:40.22 | Dagmar | Pfft. *points at bear* |
| 23:40.29 | Dagmar | Thrall is a melee hunter. |
| 23:40.31 | kd3|netbook | alt-zing won't work |
| 23:40.36 | SqueeG | D: |
| 23:40.40 | kd3|netbook | you've gotta disable the tooltip. there's a workaround somewhere |
| 23:40.47 | SqueeG | yea i'm looking for it.. |
| 23:41.45 | Lulia | So, all frames are not visible by default. But I don't see a function here to show my frame? |
| 23:42.00 | kd3|netbook | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27300876552&sid=1 |
| 23:42.04 | Dagmar | No wait, sorry that's Rexxar. All you horde look like animals anyway |
| 23:42.05 | Jamash | frame:Show() |
| 23:42.07 | kd3|netbook | :Show() |
| 23:43.35 | Lulia | Hmm, I dont see that in the widget API. Thanks |
| 23:43.57 | Humbedooh | Thrall is a farseer ;o |
| 23:44.19 | SqueeG | got it, thanks kd3 :p |
| 23:44.21 | Jamash | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_Region_Show |
| 23:44.27 | SqueeG | Thrall is NOT a farseer! >.> |
| 23:44.45 | Jamash | sure he is |
| 23:44.56 | Lulia | Wasn't sure what the Region stuff was for. Thanks. |
| 23:45.36 | Lulia | Frame:SetPoint() to tell it where to be located? ;) |
| 23:45.57 | SqueeG | farseers are...like...totally.. like o~ld and stuff... yea |
| 23:46.19 | Jamash | his unit in WC3 is a farseer |
| 23:46.49 | Lulia | Yeah, but farseers in WC3 were like hero shaman |
| 23:46.55 | Jamash | yes? |
| 23:47.01 | Jamash | that's what a farseer is |
| 23:47.12 | Lulia | Right, so he was still a Shaman :) |
| 23:47.23 | Jamash | and a farseer |
| 23:47.29 | Lulia | But yeah, his unit was called "Farseer", that's not disputible. |
| 23:47.39 | Humbedooh | A farseer is a shaman, but a shaman is not necessarilly a farseer |
| 23:48.03 | SqueeG | A Farseer is like a prestige classed shaman |
| 23:48.08 | SqueeG | epic prestige class |
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| 23:51.50 | kd3|netbook | realid: http://wowpedia.pastey.net/141975 |
| 23:55.13 | Jamash | anonymimity? |
| 23:55.18 | Dagmar | Oh shit. The weekend news cycle will be churning now... http://warlogs.wikileaks.org/ |
| 23:55.47 | A-KO | Maybe someone can answer this: Is there a case where item max stack is > 1 if the buy count is > 1? |
| 23:55.55 | A-KO | like, 5 drinks at a time, you can't shift click that to 20 |
| 23:55.56 | Wobin | oh dear |
| 23:56.51 | Jamash | A-KO wat? |
| 23:56.57 | kd3|netbook | hey, I'm typing fast |
| 23:57.04 | kd3|netbook | if that was my only typo I'm doing pretty good |
| 23:57.11 | Jamash | you can shift-click stuff that's sold in stacks now |
| 23:59.13 | A-KO | oh shit can you Jamash? |
| 23:59.14 | A-KO | hmmm |
| 23:59.15 | A-KO | okay |
| 23:59.50 | Jamash | since 4.0.1 |
