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| 00:03.48 | penborn | ello |
| 00:04.01 | A-KO | sup |
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| 00:07.21 | Moonwitch | I learned I can't eat kebab anymore either.... |
| 00:08.06 | penborn | i have a quick question for anyone familiar with bartender, im trying to set a custom conditional to show a bar when the spell Trap Launcher is cast.. is this possible? |
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| 00:10.05 | Shirik | every time I log in I have a tabard on |
| 00:10.08 | Shirik | is this a known bug? |
| 00:11.03 | Iriel | I've heard it acknowledged |
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| 00:12.35 | Humbedooh | I have the opposite :\ |
| 00:12.44 | Humbedooh | I lose my tabard when I log off :\ |
| 00:13.36 | bleeter | I said it was still all Cogwheel's fault, but no one beleives me! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27188062708&sid=1#11 |
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| 00:15.40 | bleeter | "Cogwheel" causing disconnects or freezes in Instances and Battlegrounds < lulz |
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| 00:17.50 | Shirik | Humbedooh, I would love to lose my tabard |
| 00:17.57 | Humbedooh | rawr |
| 00:17.57 | Shirik | this is so ugly |
| 00:18.04 | Humbedooh | your place or mine? |
| 00:19.30 | bleeter | Shirik: the tabard is fine, it's you who are ugly! :P |
| 00:19.49 | Jerub | my tabbard on cael has a cupcake on it |
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| 00:20.14 | Humbedooh | what flavor? |
| 00:22.11 | Shirik | not cool bleeter :( |
| 00:22.41 | Moonwitch | ping Ackis |
| 00:22.53 | bleeter | hugs Shirik |
| 00:22.53 | Jerub | Humbedooh: dunno. it's a guild mostly composed of members of one family, and their naming scheme is all pie related. |
| 00:23.00 | Jerub | sourpye, frozenpye, lemonpie, etc. |
| 00:23.16 | bleeter | mmm pie |
| 00:23.23 | Jerub | i realm changed to teach them to play wow. :P |
| 00:23.33 | Jerub | (omg, such bad habits!) |
| 00:23.33 | Jamash | is there a way to make gcc / cpp print out a list of what macros are defined and what their values are? |
| 00:24.02 | Jerub | although, i had to lol when he tried to DG the chaotic rifts in nexus |
| 00:24.03 | amro | Shirik: what's the cleanest workaround to have convenience constructor functions for a struct that needs to be in a union? |
| 00:24.10 | bleeter | on the subject of pie... I think I've worked out a new attack on the Blizzard Authenticator |
| 00:24.22 | Jerub | bleeter: oh, do tell? |
| 00:24.24 | Jamash | offer people pie for their authenticator? |
| 00:24.25 | Shirik | make a factory |
| 00:24.38 | bleeter | this attack is based on the idea that any number it generates, has a high probability of being somewhere in pi |
| 00:24.49 | Jerub | bleeter: hm... |
| 00:24.50 | Jerub | pie.... |
| 00:24.51 | bleeter | so... all one has to do... is get a bloody big circle... |
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| 00:25.18 | bleeter | ... leap inside it... and call yourself an eedjet. and you should be able to login. |
| 00:25.25 | Jamash | wikipedia to the rescue: gcc -dM -E - < /dev/null |
| 00:25.29 | amro | I'd just eat the pie |
| 00:38.07 | ckknight | mmm... pie! |
| 00:55.47 | Sagoth | I've spent the last two hours looking... anyone know the API call to get an item's tooltip text? |
| 00:56.45 | Humbedooh | http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Scan_a_tooltip_15 ? |
| 00:58.27 | Sagoth | wow, thanks |
| 00:58.46 | Sagoth | and as a side note.. anyone know what mechanic allows people to link spirit-gemmed shadowmournes in trade? |
| 00:59.25 | amro | messing around with the item link |
| 00:59.35 | amro | you can put any enchant in the link |
| 00:59.47 | amro | if it's common I'd assume there's an addon that does it |
| 00:59.53 | amro | not many people can do it by hand :P |
| 01:00.28 | Sagoth | oh, so the item link holds data about gemming in it? |
| 01:00.59 | Humbedooh | didn't Torhal have some snippets on that? |
| 01:05.46 | Wobin | now that I'm hovercasting all my dots, I want dot indicators on mobplates =) |
| 01:06.22 | Sagoth | ah, i see.. found info about the link storing enchants and such |
| 01:07.25 | penborn | can anyone give me some insight? im trying to make a custom conditional in bartender to show a bar when i press a keybind on another bar, ive try /cast Trap Launcher;hide:show but it keeps it hidden... |
| 01:07.43 | penborn | tried.. |
| 01:13.38 | Yssaril | does wintergrasp still disalow summoning a flying mount during its battle phase? |
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| 01:30.41 | Aznamir | hi all |
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| 01:31.13 | Aznamir | I'm trying to ressurrect one mod written for the vanilla wow |
| 01:31.21 | Aznamir | and I'm missing something |
| 01:31.39 | Aznamir | Could someone help me? |
| 01:32.18 | Sagoth | Okay, having to look in the item's tooltip to figure out if something is soulbound or not is rediculous. |
| 01:32.32 | Sagoth | you figure programmers would have better concept of these things |
| 01:33.50 | amro | they do, they just don't care enough to expose it to lua |
| 01:34.05 | amro | ~asktoask |
| 01:34.06 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 01:34.07 | amro | Aznamir: ^ |
| 01:35.44 | Aznamir | okay, I got a frame in .xml defined as |
| 01:35.45 | Aznamir | <Frame name="SRMF_ScenRaid_ItemTypes" inherits="UIDropDownMenuTemplate" id="1"> |
| 01:36.10 | Aznamir | in <OnLoad> it calls a function as ScenRaid_zzzzz |
| 01:36.21 | Aznamir | in the function there are 3 lines: |
| 01:36.24 | amro | http://pastebin.ca |
| 01:36.24 | Aznamir | UIDropDownMenu_Initialize(this, ScenRaid_MELCBSMTDJIN); |
| 01:36.24 | Aznamir | UIDropDownMenu_SetSelectedValue(SRMF_ScenRaid_ItemTypes, ScenRaid_Defaults["SelLoot"]); |
| 01:36.25 | Aznamir | UIDropDownMenu_SetWidth(SRMF_ScenRaid_ItemTypes, 120); |
| 01:36.25 | amro | use that |
| 01:36.28 | amro | don't paste here |
| 01:37.05 | amro | also, if it's a mod written for 1.x, chances are you're better off just rdoing it from scratch |
| 01:38.15 | Aznamir | just wondering what i'm supposed to do with 'this' in the UIDropDownMenu_Initialize call |
| 01:38.17 | Jerub | any fury warriors here? |
| 01:40.57 | Iriel | Aznamir: probably 'self', but chances are you'll have to modify your function's signature, and the stuff that calls it too |
| 01:41.37 | Dewin | only 343 views of the cataclysm trailer when I watched it? Wow. |
| 01:41.47 | kd3 | it said that for me |
| 01:41.54 | kd3 | I suspect their view logs are getting overwhelmed |
| 01:41.59 | Dewin | I suspect as much as well |
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| 01:44.18 | Aznamir | if it modify the function call to pass 'self' and then use it inside of the function instead of this, it still fails with frame is null or something like that |
| 01:45.50 | Aznamir | unfortunately rewriting that mod is not an option since it is freaking huge |
| 01:46.23 | Aznamir | only the UI .xml file is 630 KB |
| 01:46.50 | amro | does anyone even use xml anymore? |
| 01:47.02 | amro | and if it's that big, I doubt you can just tweak it to work |
| 01:47.04 | amro | what does it do? |
| 01:47.11 | Aznamir | guild dkp |
| 01:47.33 | Aznamir | some mods do have a history behind them :) |
| 01:47.45 | amro | what's broken about it? |
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| 01:47.58 | Aznamir | everything |
| 01:48.21 | Aznamir | it was written back in 2005-2006 |
| 01:49.05 | Aznamir | so it uses a bunch of things that were deprecated years ago |
| 01:49.33 | Aznamir | and cataclysm patch finally broke it with 'this', 'arg1', 'event' globals being eleminated |
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| 02:03.22 | amro | Aznamir: hence, rewrite it |
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| 02:32.09 | Kraps | derp everyone is pontificating on the cinematic |
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| 02:33.31 | sylvanaar | has anyone figured out the baradin hold raid reset rules? it seems sorta random |
| 02:36.36 | foxlit | resets whenever they want you to test it? |
| 02:39.56 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 02:40.08 | sylvanaar | you can chain run it - but were not sure the rules |
| 02:41.46 | Wobin | Kraps: hahaha " since Deathwing was talking, does that make it more sentient? Like a advanced AI boss monster? I mean, from what I gathered, a lot of people will need to fight him but this shows that he may adapt to different battle strategies and weaponry." |
| 02:42.08 | Kraps | whaaaaaaat |
| 02:42.11 | Wobin | I love how people can read something from absolutely nothing =P |
| 02:42.32 | Wobin | random youtube comment |
| 02:42.53 | Kraps | i herd none of the bosses in wow talk |
| 02:43.32 | Xyphoid | deathwing will listen to your voice chat in real time and determine what tactics confuse your raiders the most |
| 02:43.57 | Xyphoid | he will also facebook stalk you and show pictures of your exes to the rest of the raid |
| 02:44.22 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:44.43 | Wobin | I kinda expected him to be somewhat... bigger |
| 02:44.50 | Wobin | since he's cracked the world and everything |
| 02:45.15 | Wobin | if something that size can break the world, I'd've thought the goblin engineers would have done it ages ago |
| 02:45.35 | Kraps | the way the camera never focuses on him just makes it more epic |
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| 02:52.24 | Kraps | i like the idea i once read about fighting deathwing: make parts of his body into minibosses |
| 02:53.17 | foxlit | "You! Stop Deathwings toe from attacking your healers!" |
| 02:53.31 | foxlit | "More DPS on his ears!" |
| 02:53.44 | foxlit | "Tail swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipe :(" |
| 02:54.18 | amro | = wipe |
| 02:54.31 | amro | although you should stop enumerating body parts. |
| 02:55.12 | Kraps | foxlit: or it should focus on each par separately |
| 02:55.17 | Kraps | part* |
| 02:55.35 | foxlit | "And now, you'll fight Deathwing's disembodied... claw?" |
| 02:56.24 | foxlit | Explain something to me: why did they release the trailer now? |
| 02:56.38 | foxlit | As opposed to in four days, when they could do it to great applause at blizzcon? |
| 02:56.39 | Dagmar | "Guys, we gotta kill the left arm first or we're not getting through this." |
| 02:56.58 | foxlit | "amro: although you should stop enumerating body parts." |
| 02:57.08 | foxlit | amro: I think the conclusion of this slippery slope is more or less inevitable |
| 02:58.05 | Kraps | "HOLY CRAP LOOK AT THE SIZE OF HIS..." |
| 02:58.29 | Arrowmaster | battling a giant sleeping deathwing where the goal is to like that of putting shaving cream on somebodys hands while they are sleeping and then tickling them with a feather would be better |
| 02:59.17 | Arrowmaster | except you are fighting against involentary movements while he is sleeping and the goal is to get him to roll over and fall off of where ever hes sleeping |
| 02:59.33 | Arrowmaster | then ofcourse he wakes up and you all die |
| 03:00.35 | Kraps | and tirion saves us? :/ |
| 03:00.42 | airtonix | gaiz |
| 03:00.59 | airtonix | you know its a conspiracy right ? |
| 03:01.13 | Kraps | what is? |
| 03:01.20 | airtonix | SEE WHAT I MEAN! |
| 03:01.23 | airtonix | zomg |
| 03:01.45 | Kraps | omg yur rite! |
| 03:01.51 | airtonix | I KNOW RIGHT? |
| 03:02.56 | airtonix | next thing you'll know is that it's 2030 and you're still using the equiv of a super nes to play online games. |
| 03:02.59 | airtonix | meanwhile |
| 03:03.53 | airtonix | just abandon your pitiful game and come to eve online where you'll be able to land on a planet with 20 other raiders and fight a dragon boss monster... |
| 03:04.49 | airtonix | fisker! |
| 03:04.51 | airtonix | http://www.mail-archive.com/pulseaudio-discuss@mail.0pointer.de/msg07297.html |
| 03:05.40 | Kraps | airtonix: what are you smoking |
| 03:05.50 | Yssaril | foxlit: because they have something better planned for blizzcon ? |
| 03:05.53 | airtonix | Kraps, your personal stash |
| 03:06.06 | airtonix | it's very nice |
| 03:06.08 | Kraps | hey hands off! |
| 03:06.13 | foxlit | Yssaril: whatever they have planned would be no worse off if they also premiered this trailer. |
| 03:07.41 | Yssaril | foxlit: not enough time for it all? |
| 03:08.13 | Kraps | they _are_ having an hour long cinematics panel |
| 03:14.14 | airtonix | http://pauvam.com/2010/04/18/pulseaudio-introduction-and-architecture/ |
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| 03:21.45 | Hirsute | What's the addon that gives you, essentially, a lua console within WoW? |
| 03:23.36 | Hirsute | Ah, there it is. WowLua is what I was looking for. |
| 03:26.45 | Kraps | "Metzen the dragon strikes again. Up next, Metzen the son of the dragon in conflict with Metzen the firelord." |
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| 03:38.14 | Xuerian | Alright, so what was that odd german string pattern that Deformat accounts for? >_> |
| 03:39.55 | Yssaril | Xuerian: tjhe one where you can change the order of the args |
| 03:40.06 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_108497&feature=iv&v=oHpud3QmLzM |
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| 03:40.30 | Xuerian | Yssaril: I guess? I think it wasn't arg order, it was actually pattern keywords.. but I don't really remember much |
| 03:41.09 | Yssaril | right the pattern can change the order of the args in wow let me see if i can find an example |
| 03:44.11 | Yssaril | Xuerian: bahh cant find it look for a german version of the globalstrings.lua |
| 03:44.31 | Xuerian | Yssaril: Yeah, that was my plan b. Thanks for looking :p |
| 03:45.10 | Xuerian | I just remember ckknight mentioning it when I brought up deformat a while back, and I'm just going to switch to a simple pattern inverter instead of another embed |
| 03:45.49 | ckknight | %1$s |
| 03:47.02 | Xuerian | tehee, my devious plan worked |
| 03:47.21 | Xuerian | and got me killed in LoL |
| 03:47.23 | Xuerian | sighs |
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| 03:48.35 | Kraps | sylvanaar: yo |
| 03:50.26 | sylvanaar | hm |
| 03:51.56 | Kraps | sylvanaar: how far is the scrollback between sessions? |
| 03:53.42 | sylvanaar | Kraps: 24 hours or N lines where you specify N |
| 03:54.46 | sylvanaar | ie you have to wait a full 24 hours until it will auto-wipe the whole scrollback. Otherwise it will still be there |
| 03:55.02 | tem | Mirrormn, evidently your name is gay |
| 03:55.06 | tem | you gonna let that sit? |
| 03:55.28 | sylvanaar | Kraps: why? |
| 03:56.00 | Kraps | sylvanaar: just curious |
| 03:56.05 | sylvanaar | ah k |
| 03:56.06 | Mirrormn | I think I agreed with him, actually |
| 03:56.12 | Mirrormn | I used to be Mirrorman |
| 03:56.37 | sylvanaar | Kraps: it seems to work pretty well, I havent had any complaints so far (and thats pretty unusual) |
| 03:57.06 | Mirrormn | I named myself that cause the first forum I ever signed up for, I wanted to participate in some RP thread where people were fighting, so my genius strategy was to be named Mirrorman so I could reflect all incoming attacks |
| 03:57.45 | amro | until someone tipped you over and you shattered along with your dreams |
| 03:59.06 | Mirrormn | sylvanar: I had to stop using your Lua IDE because it was getting to the point where the editor was was lagging out for 1 second whenever I typed anything |
| 04:00.20 | amro | I blame all the java |
| 04:00.42 | amro | you can increase the delay for parsing |
| 04:01.06 | Mirrormn | well, yeah |
| 04:01.37 | Mirrormn | but I used to use WoW UI Designer, and it was able to do real-time Lua parsing without completely lagging out whenever I typed |
| 04:02.06 | amro | I bet it wasn't in java |
| 04:02.23 | amro | I have all around lagginess in IDEA |
| 04:02.29 | amro | so I don't think the lua module is to blame |
| 04:02.54 | Mirrormn | hmm |
| 04:02.57 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: You the same sylvanaar that wrote the lua chronatom for Android? |
| 04:03.19 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:03.22 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:03.29 | sylvanaar | why |
| 04:04.10 | Hirsute | Just saw it today, searching the market place for lua (seeing if anyone had written a lua interpreter for Android) |
| 04:04.25 | sylvanaar | oh , well, it was just a test of corona |
| 04:04.42 | Hirsute | I got a kick out of it. |
| 04:05.28 | sylvanaar | Mirrormn: i dont know - you know I use it, and its not that laggy for me. its still in development though so its not perfect by any means |
| 04:06.11 | Mirrormn | well I did notice that it was much worse in my behemoth 4000 line file, so |
| 04:06.19 | Mirrormn | you probably are editing files that are much smaller ^_^ |
| 04:06.34 | sylvanaar | well, i edit my own addons with it |
| 04:06.48 | sylvanaar | though im not sure any are 4000 lines some are close |
| 04:08.09 | sylvanaar | if there is an error - that can lag things up |
| 04:08.20 | Xuerian | Hirsute: I'm sure you found ASE |
| 04:10.01 | Hirsute | Xuerian: Eh? In the Android Market Place? |
| 04:11.05 | Hirsute | wtb someone else coding a frame that I can display text in that will scroll and can be copy/pasted from. I'm too lazy and tired for this tonight. Blah. |
| 04:11.30 | Xuerian | Hirsute: Huh. Well, I guess it isn't. It works though |
| 04:12.12 | Hirsute | Good to know. Ah, wait, the Android Scripting Environment. I saw a mention of that, but hadn't looked into it yet. |
| 04:18.21 | Shirik | ccox|sleep are you around? |
| 04:18.27 | Shirik | or maybe um.... PProvost |
| 04:21.59 | Yssaril | Xuerian: older but still usable http://github.com/tekkub/wow-globalstrings |
| 04:23.06 | Kraps | just got pwnd by a protoss :( |
| 04:23.06 | Xuerian | Yssaril: Thanks o.o |
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| 04:26.00 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:26.09 | Amarande | has anyone else been getting a bug where the game won't save talents after you click learn and say yes? |
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| 04:33.14 | sylvanaar | Hirsute: use the one from bugsack |
| 04:34.16 | Hirsute | sylvanaar: Thanks for the tip. I'll go look at it. |
| 04:38.25 | amro | Kraps: what's your char code? |
| 04:38.49 | Kraps | 454 |
| 04:39.47 | Kraps | why? |
| 04:39.55 | amro | check ingame |
| 04:40.04 | tem | Shadowed, |
| 04:40.09 | Shadowed | tem |
| 04:40.10 | tem | is SUF updated for 4.0.1? |
| 04:40.17 | Shadowed | if you grab wowace alpha |
| 04:40.24 | tem | is my guildmate looking in the wrong place? ah |
| 04:40.31 | Kraps | amro: i'm pretty sure i'll fuck it up |
| 04:40.45 | amro | fuck what up? |
| 04:40.48 | PProvost | Shirik: what's up? |
| 04:40.49 | Kraps | the game |
| 04:40.57 | amro | I'm confusd |
| 04:41.14 | Shirik | got time for a PM? |
| 04:41.32 | PProvost | Sure |
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| 04:52.09 | sylvanaar | how do you report API errors to bliz? |
| 04:52.17 | sylvanaar | just the bug report forum? |
| 04:53.14 | Shirik | that's probably the best way |
| 04:53.17 | Shirik | unless it's a security issue |
| 04:54.19 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 04:54.21 | penborn | anyone here familiar with bartender that could possibly give me some insight?, im attempting to set up a custom conditional, to hide/show a bar, but im having alot of trouble. i would like to show the bar when i press a skill but not sure if thats possible, if not, shiftmod would be equally useful. what it writing is this as my code [mod:shift]hide:show, if i use just hide it works, any other way i have attempted doesn't. |
| 04:59.19 | Hirsute | have you tried changing hide:show to hide;show? |
| 04:59.25 | Hirsute | (I'm just shooting in the dark here) |
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| 05:00.21 | Jamash | I have invented a thing, a new thing, while I was asleep, it is: WEB PARKOUR |
| 05:00.49 | Dagmar | Hirsute: afaik it's the right answer |
| 05:01.14 | ccox | Shirik: sort of around |
| 05:01.31 | Dagmar | http://forums.wowlite.net/thread.php?id=22748803398&forumID=11114 |
| 05:02.14 | Jamash | I find your liteness unbearable. |
| 05:02.37 | Dagmar | Blame Google. |
| 05:02.56 | Shirik | how the hell do you read that |
| 05:03.14 | Jamash | you click on "show real version" |
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| 05:06.34 | Kraps | amro: your connection was funky |
| 05:06.49 | amro | wow patching in the background |
| 05:06.55 | amro | but even when it isn't, I get lag |
| 05:07.38 | Shirik | oh ccox: nm, I took care of it, but thanks :) |
| 05:07.57 | penborn | thanks dagmar |
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| 05:24.24 | Thunder_Child | mm... http://www.instructables.com/id/5-minute-Halloween-Candy-Bark/ that looks tasty |
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| 05:28.29 | Shirik | that looks awful |
| 05:28.48 | amro | just like your sister |
| 05:29.37 | haste | I'm with Shirik on this one. |
| 05:30.07 | Kraps | i'm with Shiriks sister |
| 05:30.16 | Shirik | :/ |
| 05:34.35 | Hirsute | grrr. Well, I have frame created (code mostly cribbed from Bugsack), but I cannot for the life of me close it once I've displayed it. >.> I think it's about time to take a little break. |
| 05:36.09 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 05:37.12 | Hirsute | Yay! Found the typo that was preventing it. |
| 05:37.21 | Shirik | hi cide |
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| 05:40.05 | Cide | how are you? |
| 05:40.18 | Shirik | stressed |
| 05:41.14 | Cide | why? :( |
| 05:45.12 | Jamash | Shirik, why does C++ hate me |
| 05:45.20 | Shirik | you must be one with C++ |
| 05:45.25 | Kraps | Cide |
| 05:45.29 | Kraps | [01:30:07]<Kraps>i'm with Shiriks sister |
| 05:45.53 | Shirik | (01:28:14) (@Shirik) that looks awful (01:28:33) (amro) just like your sister |
| 05:45.56 | Shirik | shows you his standards |
| 05:46.54 | Jamash | mmk I think my ui extractor is finally working |
| 05:47.07 | Jamash | final qa pending |
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| 05:47.15 | Shirik | logs 300 defects |
| 05:47.28 | ckknight | C++ doesn't hate or love anyone, it is just pure malevolence |
| 05:47.30 | Jamash | MADNESS! |
| 05:49.25 | Kraps | By this point, Select knew very well that a Mothership was headed his way. Huk, however, attempted to "reassure" him in the game chat after the crowd erupted. âThat's Halo," Huk said. "Don't worry." |
| 05:49.29 | Kraps | http://media.mlgpro.com/site/images/features2/2010_dc_dontworry.jpg |
| 05:50.06 | amro | hah |
| 05:50.11 | amro | they can hear the crowd? |
| 05:50.20 | amro | sounds like fail |
| 05:52.00 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:56.13 | Cide | well |
| 05:56.32 | Cide | if you had to pick between C and C++, C++ clearly wins |
| 05:56.41 | Cide | but if you add python to the mix... |
| 05:57.06 | amro | you end up comparing apples and chairs |
| 05:57.20 | amro | and there's really no terminology you can use there |
| 05:59.44 | Kraps | this guy is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5b5if7Gfc |
| 06:02.21 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 06:02.21 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
| 06:07.03 | Jamash | so the big thing in software these days is to make software that still crashes but sort of recovers |
| 06:07.23 | Jamash | I just had the Nvidia kernel driver crash and recover, and Flash did the same thing on that page |
| 06:08.53 | amro | flash is only doing it because it can't stop from crashing ever |
| 06:09.23 | Jamash | yep |
| 06:10.51 | Jamash | Is it a good thing or a bad thing that I have three different flavors of console open |
| 06:14.30 | amro | is it a good thing or a bad thing that I'm thinking of candy bar flavors now |
| 06:15.11 | Cide | BAD AMRO |
| 06:15.14 | Cide | VERY VAD |
| 06:15.17 | Cide | AND BAD |
| 06:15.30 | amro | bad I can live with |
| 06:15.33 | amro | but vad? :( |
| 06:15.35 | amro | ~wrists |
| 06:15.36 | purl | Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 06:16.00 | Amarande | ze candy bar obsession is very vad |
| 06:16.16 | Jamash | Good news everyone! I've created an AddOn toolkit that matches the output of the Blizzard-provided zip file (finally)! |
| 06:16.43 | amro | you're supposed to announce something catastrophic when you say "Good news everyone!" |
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| 06:16.55 | amro | like blizzard did with TBC for example |
| 06:16.56 | Amarande | yeah. "Good news!" fits RMT spam very well. |
| 06:20.25 | Amarande | amro: "Good news everyone!" makes me think of Putricide. |
| 06:24.26 | Fisker | no it doesn't Amarande |
| 06:27.19 | Amarande | Fisker: "Good news, everyone! I've fixed the poison slime pipes!" |
| 06:27.36 | Jerub | is this mouse any good? http://www.dailygizmo.com.au/ |
| 06:27.48 | Amarande | as for how it fits RMT spam? because when you hear "Good news!" from Putricide, you know it means something annoying/sucky is coming up. :) |
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| 06:27.59 | Jerub | actually, i should probabl yjust buy computer crap from the states |
| 06:28.03 | Jerub | it'll probably be cheaper |
| 06:28.18 | Wobin | haha |
| 06:28.23 | Wobin | think about shipping though |
| 06:30.20 | Wobin | Jerub: is dailiygizmo any good? |
| 06:31.01 | Jerub | Wobin: no? |
| 06:31.06 | Jerub | i just check dealdump.com.au |
| 06:31.10 | Jerub | and that was listed |
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| 06:36.43 | Cide | hm |
| 06:36.51 | Cide | if you copy&paste an image from a webpage |
| 06:36.56 | Cide | does it copy the alt text? |
| 06:37.05 | Cide | or does it copy some other shit |
| 06:37.07 | Jerub | depends on the browser |
| 06:37.36 | Cide | chrome, firefox, ie7+ etc? |
| 06:38.30 | Jerub | Cide: i get the feeling they're all different |
| 06:38.41 | Cide | I don't |
| 06:38.46 | Jamash | Amarande: You know the "Good news, everyon!" meme originates from Futurama, right? |
| 06:39.01 | Jamash | s/everyon/everyone/ |
| 06:39.02 | Cide | well |
| 06:39.04 | Cide | chrome failed |
| 06:39.07 | Cide | so that's out |
| 06:39.10 | Jamash | ~fail chrome |
| 06:39.10 | purl | chrome: FAIL! |
| 06:40.23 | zenzio | Cide: what are you trying to do? |
| 06:41.13 | Jamash | there are seriously a metric asston of blp files in wow |
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| 06:55.03 | Jamash | https://code.google.com/p/jamash/ UPDATED UPDATED UPDATED finally works now for reals |
| 06:55.16 | Jamash | srs |
| 06:55.25 | Jerub | what works? |
| 06:55.34 | Jerub | oh right. nvm |
| 06:55.37 | Jamash | my unofficial ui kit thingy |
| 06:55.56 | Jamash | hooray for finishing it /after/ blizzard made it unnecessary |
| 06:56.11 | Jamash | although I guess it's still useful for grabbing code from the beta |
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| 07:06.39 | harl | wuff! |
| 07:07.41 | Cide | sec |
| 07:07.55 | Jamash | bark? |
| 07:08.40 | Jerub | hm. i have a LK raidlock. might try and see if i can form a raid group to kill him tonight |
| 07:08.46 | Jerub | upgrading 10 to 25 works right? |
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| 07:09.52 | sylvanaar | what was that addon that woudl give you all your spell cast stats |
| 07:10.02 | sylvanaar | on the spell tooltip |
| 07:10.42 | Jamash | you mean like mana efficiency, dps, etc? |
| 07:10.46 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:11.05 | Jamash | I used to have that installed, let me see |
| 07:11.46 | sylvanaar | spell... |
| 07:11.49 | sylvanaar | something |
| 07:12.56 | mitch0 | drdamage? |
| 07:13.00 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 07:13.10 | Jamash | that's the one |
| 07:13.22 | sylvanaar | kinda out of date |
| 07:14.27 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/17/funny-pictures-gif-cat-laptop/ |
| 07:21.23 | Jamash | that is not a laptop |
| 07:24.08 | Jamash | how the hell did I make it to level 80 with no racial mounts whatsoever |
| 07:24.20 | Jamash | well, ground mounts |
| 07:24.27 | Jerub | Jamash: druid? :) |
| 07:24.40 | Jamash | I have 3 brewfest mounts and a big blizzard bear |
| 07:24.41 | Jamash | priest |
| 07:25.10 | Hirsute | Is there no way for me to pass a specific value as the first argument to the function I'm setting as an OnClick handler? |
| 07:25.25 | Jerub | 3 brewfest mounts? |
| 07:25.28 | Jerub | aren't there just two? |
| 07:25.37 | Jerub | shows how much i know |
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| 07:30.01 | Jamash | wtf |
| 07:30.11 | Jamash | did they get rid of the x2 bonus cloth for specs? |
| 07:31.24 | zenzio | didn't they just get rid of specs? (At least I think they removed tailoring and blacksmithing specs) |
| 07:31.48 | Jamash | I knew they made it so you could train all recipes, but I didn't know they got rid of the bonus transmute |
| 07:32.15 | Jerub | they removed the specs |
| 07:32.25 | Jerub | i no longer have elemental leatherworking |
| 07:32.27 | Jamash | :( |
| 07:32.48 | Jamash | I liked my double moonshroud |
| 07:36.08 | zenzio | looking at negative posts about the cinematic intro, I can't help but wonder what people think a cinematic intro should be about |
| 07:36.13 | zenzio | zomg no goblins or worgen!! |
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| 07:38.03 | Jamash | anyone who doesn't like it is a poopyhead |
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| 07:44.15 | zenzio | "What would you rather the MAIN ANTAGONIST do other than what he does best? HMM? Do you want him to sit there and serve tea and cookies to everyone?" |
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| 08:02.13 | Jamash | HALLOW'S END YEAHHHHHHHH |
| 08:02.31 | nev-mobile | I hope i get the mount |
| 08:03.04 | Jamash | I hope you do (and I do) |
| 08:03.10 | Jamash | why isn't it loading |
| 08:03.35 | Jamash | there it goes |
| 08:03.44 | nev-mobile | Im already done with achievements from previous years, so just running it for the lootz |
| 08:04.25 | zenzio | I actually never bothered doing the Headless Horseman |
| 08:04.58 | nev-mobile | Too far to travel, eh |
| 08:05.29 | nev-mobile | (Did you still have to go there on foot last year?) |
| 08:05.30 | zenzio | nah, the loot just didn't interest me much |
| 08:05.45 | zenzio | I can't answer the travel part as I never went :- |
| 08:05.52 | zenzio | agh, my mouth is missing |
| 08:06.12 | nev-mobile | Fisker is using it right now |
| 08:06.18 | zenzio | maybe I can get a Deathwing-style jaw now |
| 08:06.20 | zenzio | :-> |
| 08:07.30 | nev-mobile | Cut off the nose, fits better with the steel jaw |
| 08:08.10 | zenzio | : > |
| 08:12.41 | Jamash | is there any way to make the built in comparison tooltips suck less? |
| 08:13.50 | Fisker | what about me Jamash ? |
| 08:13.54 | Fisker | hope i get the mount? |
| 08:14.04 | Jamash | or should I wait until ratingbuster gets fixed for 4.x? |
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| 08:14.15 | Jamash | Fisker: I hope you choke on the mount. |
| 08:14.20 | Fisker | fuck ratingbuster |
| 08:14.25 | Fisker | thanks Jamash |
| 08:14.30 | Jamash | np |
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| 08:23.43 | Jamash | well, I guess I never need hit rating again on my priest |
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| 08:26.57 | Jamash | druids are even moreso |
| 08:27.05 | Jamash | someone said he has 43% chance to hit |
| 08:34.19 | nev-mobile | Yeah, i did |
| 08:34.27 | nev-mobile | Got the spirit down now |
| 08:34.35 | nev-mobile | Still around 30% |
| 08:34.53 | nev-mobile | Hybrids are supposed to never wear hit |
| 08:36.31 | nev-mobile | I hope blizz is smart enough and keeps hit off trinkets and other jewelry, and weapons |
| 08:37.17 | Grum | i hope blizz is smart enough to finally make those 'wanted items' drop more often |
| 08:37.43 | nev-mobile | It wouldnt be wanted if everyone has it, duh |
| 08:37.52 | Grum | a neck with int, haste, crit is wanted by insane amounts of people |
| 08:38.09 | Grum | and its always the same shit with necks, cloaks, wrists, belts, boots, trinkets |
| 08:38.35 | Grum | slightly less with wrists/belts/boots because of armorclass ... |
| 08:38.45 | Zyn | what? increase the droprate of items people actually need? NONSENSE |
| 08:38.57 | Zyn | just like Halion never drops the melee trinket on heroic |
| 08:39.14 | nev-mobile | So, from that list, every item needs to drop more except tier sets? |
| 08:39.22 | nev-mobile | Sense, you do not make |
| 08:39.57 | Grum | nev-mobile: yes indeed |
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| 08:40.16 | Grum | make the items which upgrade the slowest drop more imho |
| 08:40.50 | nev-mobile | Thats all non tier slots, but there is only so much items a boss can drop |
| 08:41.29 | nev-mobile | When they only drop one tier token and another random item more instead, people will cry about that |
| 08:41.45 | Cide | if they increased the drop rate a ton either people would be forced to farm the instance much longer than necessary or everyone would have it |
| 08:41.50 | Cide | neither is good design |
| 08:42.11 | Cide | while you may not realize it having everything handed to you automatically is not good game design |
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| 08:43.45 | nev-mobile | Mostly people just have a handful items that they swear never drops for them |
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| 08:43.51 | nev-mobile | But thats just bad luck. :p |
| 08:43.58 | Cide | yep |
| 08:44.03 | Cide | even if the droprate was 85% |
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| 08:44.14 | Cide | "THE ITEM DIDN'T DROP ON THE TWO RUNS IT WAS MY TURN" |
| 08:57.53 | industrial | Question: talents that 'increase raid members x y z' also increase my own stats? |
| 08:58.33 | industrial | eg abomination's might +10% AP to raid/party and +2% strength to me, is that both bonuses for me? |
| 08:58.46 | industrial | ... because I'm a raid/party member aswell :p |
| 08:58.55 | nev-mobile | yes it is |
| 08:58.57 | industrial | ok |
| 08:59.02 | nev-mobile | Would be silly otherwise |
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| 09:01.24 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 09:01.32 | unfo- | ohhai |
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| 09:02.28 | angayelle | i'm looking for some info about how to make my addon resizable, not just the main frame but the whole addon, with text and stuff |
| 09:03.35 | mitch0 | SetScale? |
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| 09:06.02 | angayelle | it will resize everything even if the frames within have a fixed siez in pixels ? |
| 09:07.05 | angayelle | hmm according to wowwiki it should, so nicey |
| 09:08.47 | Cide | what a fucking bitgch |
| 09:08.50 | Cide | bitch |
| 09:09.15 | Cide | wow bugged, telling me I ran out of playtime |
| 09:09.27 | Cide | but that's in one month |
| 09:09.34 | Cide | so it kicked me off in the middle of an escort quest |
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| 09:18.18 | Napoleone | any function for getting buff1? |
| 09:18.33 | Cide | www.wowprogramming.com |
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| 09:26.07 | Flowy | in AceGUI |
| 09:26.19 | Flowy | what I can define into scrollframe.status ? |
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| 10:13.48 | Adys | Fisker |
| 10:16.25 | msoul | Hmmm, now prot paladins should use 2.6 wep speed to tank? |
| 10:16.51 | msoul | is there a wep with tanking stats even with that wep speed |
| 10:17.03 | msoul | I know 1 wep speed 2.0 from onyxia iirc |
| 10:17.11 | msoul | but 2.6 |
| 10:18.14 | angayelle | why 2,6 speed ? |
| 10:18.36 | msoul | since CS deals wep damage |
| 10:18.37 | nev-mobile | Tanking 1hs are traditionally rather fast |
| 10:18.44 | msoul | indeed |
| 10:18.52 | msoul | I am surprised from the fella who wrote this guide |
| 10:19.13 | angayelle | now pal gonna tank the dk way |
| 10:19.23 | angayelle | useless block ftl |
| 10:20.53 | msoul | still haven't played retri/prot war or dk unholy/tank |
| 10:21.06 | msoul | loving my latest alt lock |
| 10:21.26 | msoul | lvling a mage atm but VERY slow :/ |
| 10:21.28 | msoul | 46 |
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| 10:27.35 | Flowy | lua> local t="sparta"; local ("this"..t) = "This Is Sparta"; return thissparta |
| 10:27.36 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '(' |
| 10:27.40 | Flowy | how to do it? |
| 10:27.57 | jnwhiteh | huh? |
| 10:28.11 | nev-mobile | You cant construct local variables like that |
| 10:28.25 | jnwhiteh | a local variable needs an actual name |
| 10:28.28 | nev-mobile | Cant programmatically produce names |
| 10:28.32 | Flowy | ok thanks |
| 10:28.36 | jnwhiteh | you also should have no need to do that =) |
| 10:28.40 | jnwhiteh | it would be terrible programming practice |
| 10:29.09 | nev-mobile | You could probably cheat by using getfenv |
| 10:29.11 | Flowy | and can I have variable that contains name of my new var? |
| 10:29.18 | nev-mobile | But lets not go there |
| 10:29.19 | jnwhiteh | make a table, if you need this |
| 10:29.22 | jnwhiteh | its what you're trying to do anyway. |
| 10:29.53 | Flowy | I have table that contains names of my Labels |
| 10:29.54 | jnwhiteh | local blah = {}; local t = "sparta"; blah["this" .. t] = "This is Sparta"; return blah.thissparta |
| 10:29.59 | jnwhiteh | for example |
| 10:30.01 | Flowy | and want to create it in one fore |
| 10:30.09 | jnwhiteh | "one fore"? |
| 10:30.11 | jnwhiteh | not sure what that means |
| 10:30.21 | Flowy | one "for" |
| 10:30.47 | jnwhiteh | okay, there's nothing stopping you from doing that |
| 10:30.57 | jnwhiteh | but you don't need to do what you were trying to do, not that you can do that anyway =) |
| 10:31.19 | Flowy | I know that I dont need |
| 10:31.39 | Flowy | but writing x lines with same commands just another name is ... |
| 10:32.07 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 10:32.17 | jnwhiteh | I gave you a solution to your problem |
| 10:32.22 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure why that's not sufficient. |
| 10:33.55 | jnwhiteh | if you could clarify, perhaps I could help further. |
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| 10:39.40 | Jamash | I haf 12 matchsteeks. |
| 10:46.41 | jnwhiteh | Anyone use any distributed issue trackers with git, a la dbug, git-issue, etc.? |
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| 10:48.16 | Vilkku | how was COMBAT_LOG_EVENT changed in 4.0? I know that we are supposed to use COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED now, but I thought it was supposed to work exactly the same way |
| 10:48.35 | Vilkku | however, code that worked in 3.x does not simply work by renaming COMBAT_LOG_EVENT in 4.x |
| 10:49.03 | jnwhiteh | you shouldn't have been using COMBAT_LOG_EVENT from the get-go |
| 10:49.06 | jnwhiteh | there was no API change with that |
| 10:49.10 | jnwhiteh | but its possible the event arguments changed |
| 10:49.15 | jnwhiteh | but you should be able to trivially check this yourself. |
| 10:49.36 | Vilkku | what was wrong with using combat_log_event? |
| 10:49.58 | jnwhiteh | its subject to the filters that the user has employed |
| 10:50.06 | jnwhiteh | so there is no guarantee that you will get the events that happen |
| 10:50.12 | jnwhiteh | just those the user has 'allowed through' |
| 10:50.22 | jnwhiteh | this was made clear during the combat log revamp, in 2.x |
| 10:50.27 | jnwhiteh | well, post 2.x, afaik. |
| 10:50.34 | jnwhiteh | Either way, that's neither here nor there |
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| 10:50.47 | Vilkku | I was under the impression it was a recent change, oh well |
| 10:50.49 | jnwhiteh | the issue isn't the events or the events your using, its almost certainly the code being used to invoke it.. or some surrounding code. |
| 10:50.52 | jnwhiteh | nope, it's a very old change |
| 10:51.02 | Vilkku | http://vilkku.pastey.net/141776 that's my code |
| 10:51.09 | jnwhiteh | you're using arg2 |
| 10:51.14 | jnwhiteh | those have been deprecated forever |
| 10:51.15 | jnwhiteh | one moment. |
| 10:51.27 | jnwhiteh | I have no idea how this function is invoked |
| 10:51.32 | Vilkku | it is invoked |
| 10:51.36 | jnwhiteh | but HOW |
| 10:51.38 | jnwhiteh | with what arguments |
| 10:51.45 | jnwhiteh | how is it connected to the event handler? |
| 10:51.57 | Vilkku | EnhBloodlust:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) if self[event] then return self[event](self, event, ...) end end) |
| 10:52.14 | jnwhiteh | so EnhBloodlust is the frame |
| 10:52.15 | jnwhiteh | okauy |
| 10:52.18 | Vilkku | yeah |
| 10:52.19 | Adys | yay |
| 10:52.22 | Adys | i can make the client crash |
| 10:53.13 | jnwhiteh | Vilkku: http://vilkku.pastey.net/141777 |
| 10:53.26 | jnwhiteh | you were already doing half of the work, you just were not finishign it. |
| 10:53.52 | angayelle | using variables without declaring it beforehand is kinda strange |
| 10:54.03 | jnwhiteh | very bad coding practice, yes =) |
| 10:54.10 | jnwhiteh | in this case it was using global variables |
| 10:54.17 | jnwhiteh | but I'm quite confused why any code writetn post 2.x woudl be in that state.. |
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| 10:55.58 | angayelle | can we define the origin point in the setscale command ? or is it locked on center ? |
| 10:56.22 | jnwhiteh | there is no origin point |
| 10:56.37 | jnwhiteh | scale is a multiplicative attribute defined on the frame as a whole |
| 10:57.04 | jnwhiteh | how the frame moves as a result of scaling is dependent entirely on the way it is anchored |
| 10:57.05 | angayelle | so it scale from the origin point of the frame defined in the xml for example ? |
| 10:57.15 | jnwhiteh | no, it scales |
| 10:57.20 | jnwhiteh | that's it |
| 10:57.29 | jnwhiteh | if it moves ,this is a result of the way it is anchored |
| 10:57.33 | angayelle | from the anchor, ok |
| 10:57.40 | Vilkku | jnwhiteh, thanks for the help, and now a slightly obvious (I guess?) question... should I use that same way whenever I use the arg-variables? I didn't before because I'm not that experienced, and it just worked =/ |
| 10:57.45 | jnwhiteh | saying it 'scales from the anchor' is not correct |
| 10:58.01 | jnwhiteh | Vilkku: the arg variables used to be globals, you need to get them from .. now |
| 10:58.02 | jnwhiteh | err ... |
| 10:58.25 | jnwhiteh | A frame can be scaled, and this potentially changes the size of the frame |
| 10:58.37 | jnwhiteh | this is completely decoupled from how the frame is placed, and the two aren't really related at all |
| 10:58.48 | angayelle | i see what you mean |
| 10:58.54 | angayelle | thanks |
| 10:58.58 | jnwhiteh | yw! |
| 11:00.47 | Jamash | ilvl 270 caster offhand: *70 honor points* |
| 11:00.57 | unfo- | Yep! :) |
| 11:01.01 | Jamash | soooooooo cheap |
| 11:01.03 | unfo- | also ilvl 270 shields |
| 11:01.14 | unfo- | 270 librams 260 hp |
| 11:01.14 | Jamash | maybe that will get people to stop dropping from HoR |
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| 11:03.33 | Jamash | hmm, so what's a good secondary stat for a priest |
| 11:03.40 | Jamash | for pvp |
| 11:03.51 | Jamash | I mean spirit doesn't mean much if you're not alive long enough to run out of mana |
| 11:04.29 | Jamash | haste I guess |
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| 11:09.46 | A-KO | hmm |
| 11:09.54 | A-KO | who would have thought Kirby's Epic Yarn would be an interesting game |
| 11:10.08 | A-KO | it actually looks like a really good game to get for kids, lol. |
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| 11:14.36 | Jamash | welfare epixxxxxxxxxxxx |
| 11:19.06 | angayelle | hmmm i want my slashcommand to have an arg along with msg so i could use the setscale with something like /myaddon addonscale 2 |
| 11:19.22 | angayelle | but the arg usually used are (msg, editbox) |
| 11:19.38 | zenzio | you need to manually split/parse your message |
| 11:19.55 | angayelle | gah |
| 11:20.35 | Jamash | is there a download page for the cata cinematic? |
| 11:20.49 | angayelle | i'll be pulling my hair out with this i think |
| 11:20.56 | jnwhiteh | local tokens = {}; for token in msg:gmatch("%S+") do tokens[#tokens + 1] = token; end |
| 11:20.59 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: use that |
| 11:21.10 | jnwhiteh | then you have an array with all the non-space tokens that were given to the slash command |
| 11:21.17 | angayelle | oho |
| 11:21.21 | angayelle | gonna try that |
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| 11:25.41 | angayelle | something like that ? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141778 |
| 11:26.12 | Vilkku | how can I explore the spell activation overlay graphics? |
| 11:26.12 | angayelle | mmh |
| 11:26.28 | Vilkku | (and find out their filenames so that I can use them in an addon) |
| 11:26.37 | angayelle | the new ones ? |
| 11:26.42 | Vilkku | yeah |
| 11:27.09 | Vilkku | I know where they are but I don't know how to actually view them :P Haven't had to do that before |
| 11:29.41 | angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141779 |
| 11:29.50 | Napoleone | lol a daily update of gearscore so far |
| 11:29.50 | angayelle | from blizzard interface pack |
| 11:30.07 | Vilkku | thanks angayelle |
| 11:31.24 | angayelle | and the xml http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141780 |
| 11:31.46 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: no, what you posted makes no sense. |
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| 11:32.30 | angayelle | ah shit |
| 11:32.38 | angayelle | i'm such noob |
| 11:32.56 | angayelle | i should make it an helper function then ? |
| 11:33.03 | jnwhiteh | no, hold on |
| 11:33.06 | angayelle | k |
| 11:33.07 | jnwhiteh | you're just not understanding the purpose of it. |
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| 11:34.12 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: |
| 11:34.13 | jnwhiteh | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141781 |
| 11:34.18 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: you grab lunch already? |
| 11:34.22 | krka | you can't explain things to people who don't understand :/ |
| 11:34.29 | Kalroth | what |
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| 11:34.43 | angayelle | okkkkk |
| 11:35.00 | angayelle | this just replace the slashcommand function |
| 11:35.06 | jnwhiteh | this IS your slash commadn function |
| 11:35.13 | jnwhiteh | that loop takes all of the space separated 'tokens' in the slash command message and puts them into a list |
| 11:35.20 | jnwhiteh | this GREATLY simplifies checking arguments and such |
| 11:35.33 | sioraiocht | jnwhiteh: yeah I did it on the way in, have to be gone in about an hour |
| 11:35.34 | angayelle | indeed |
| 11:35.43 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: no worries =) |
| 11:36.19 | Computerpunk | tonight |
| 11:36.24 | Computerpunk | time to code Lua. |
| 11:36.28 | Computerpunk | Stupid PHP and C++. xD |
| 11:36.32 | Computerpunk | Hai guys. |
| 11:36.44 | nev-mobile | Every night is a Lua night! |
| 11:36.51 | Napoleone | is there a way to reverse a statusbar? |
| 11:36.56 | angayelle | i wish it could |
| 11:37.02 | angayelle | @nev |
| 11:37.22 | Computerpunk | Napoleone, hmm. IceHUD has support for that. |
| 11:37.23 | Napoleone | instead of it filling from left to right. but right to left |
| 11:37.27 | Computerpunk | Oh. |
| 11:37.31 | Computerpunk | Rotate texture? |
| 11:37.36 | nev-mobile | Napoleone: not easily, damn statusbars are broken and limited. :( |
| 11:37.38 | Elkano | Napoleone, build your own using 2 textures? |
| 11:37.52 | Computerpunk | Isn't it possible to rotate the texture |
| 11:37.53 | Computerpunk | ? |
| 11:37.53 | Napoleone | Elkano ;P well i have a bakcdrop atm. |
| 11:37.53 | Computerpunk | o_O |
| 11:38.02 | Computerpunk | Even in WAR's mild API, we could do that. |
| 11:38.10 | Napoleone | and hi elkano.. my buffmod hero ;P |
| 11:38.16 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 11:38.23 | Computerpunk | Elkano, ! |
| 11:38.27 | Computerpunk | GetTrackingTexture fix't? |
| 11:38.35 | Computerpunk | :3 |
| 11:38.39 | Napoleone | i might have an idea for you ;) |
| 11:38.41 | zenzio | Computerpunk: you can rotate textures I believe, but not the status bar |
| 11:38.41 | nev-mobile | Sure you can rotate textures |
| 11:38.54 | nev-mobile | But that doesnt help your statusbar |
| 11:38.58 | Elkano | yes and no... it's on the svn but not packed, yet |
| 11:38.59 | Computerpunk | Hm. |
| 11:39.02 | Computerpunk | It did in Warhammer. |
| 11:39.02 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 11:39.08 | Computerpunk | O'well. |
| 11:39.09 | zenzio | WoW is not Warhammer |
| 11:39.10 | Computerpunk | Different environment. |
| 11:39.13 | Computerpunk | Might as well get used to it. |
| 11:39.15 | nev-mobile | Like i said, the blizzard statusbar frame type sucks |
| 11:39.22 | Computerpunk | Make your own. :o |
| 11:39.25 | zenzio | there's a reason everyone makes their own statubars |
| 11:39.27 | zenzio | +s |
| 11:39.31 | nev-mobile | I wrote a replacement for quartz |
| 11:39.47 | nev-mobile | I've yet to finish it though |
| 11:40.01 | nev-mobile | Just supports the things i need. :P |
| 11:40.20 | angayelle | what will be the difference with quartz ? |
| 11:40.39 | Computerpunk | Less CPU and Memory cost. |
| 11:40.43 | Computerpunk | Prolly. |
| 11:41.04 | angayelle | i'd have a look at that when you're done |
| 11:41.20 | zenzio | nev-mobile: release it as Granite or something |
| 11:41.24 | Computerpunk | Damn, I need to clear my ventilation. |
| 11:41.25 | Computerpunk | Full of dustr. |
| 11:41.30 | nev-mobile | Dunno about that, but the damn texture tiling bug is fixed, and i can add functions to rotate it |
| 11:41.43 | nev-mobile | .. which i didnt do yet. :) |
| 11:43.24 | angayelle | i'll have to make a timer bar soon, i thought about using a texture and change the texcoords with an onupdate function |
| 11:43.42 | Napoleone | elko what you mean by the 2 textures thing? |
| 11:43.42 | angayelle | like make it slide out of the frame |
| 11:43.42 | Computerpunk | Anyone interested in doing joint projects? |
| 11:43.45 | Computerpunk | I don't like working alone. <.< |
| 11:43.59 | Elkano | Napoleone: one texture for the background, one for the bar itself |
| 11:44.27 | Elkano | and then anchor the bar texture to the side of the background one and adjust the width |
| 11:44.31 | angayelle | if only i had enough time for mine... |
| 11:45.34 | Computerpunk | angayelle, that's the point of joint projetcs. |
| 11:45.40 | Computerpunk | If none of the authors has enough free time. |
| 11:46.05 | Computerpunk | the amount each has, combined makes it worthy of developing. |
| 11:46.08 | Computerpunk | Get my point? |
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| 11:46.27 | angayelle | sure |
| 11:47.08 | angayelle | well i'm thinking about a better interf-ace for reforging but first i need to decipher blizz lua |
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| 11:48.00 | ojopojo | hi, do spells have rank right now ? |
| 11:48.04 | Computerpunk | if you ever pick it up. |
| 11:48.08 | Computerpunk | I'm up for it. |
| 11:48.47 | angayelle | i got the graphical design ready, well a very precise idea on my paper but right i'm documenting reforging api |
| 11:48.50 | nev-mobile | Spells have no ranks anymore |
| 11:48.59 | Computerpunk | angayelle, tell me if you want. |
| 11:49.05 | Computerpunk | I'm up for it |
| 11:49.13 | angayelle | we could do that |
| 11:49.20 | ojopojo | nev-mobile: thanks |
| 11:49.36 | angayelle | gonna make a nice sketch up then |
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| 11:53.27 | Moonwitch | I'm having a blast reading through this blogpost, bashing tanks and healers.. The person who wrote it states that every LFD she zoned into was without a healer, so she assumed healers were being prissy. Well, if you mark you're a healer only... it's quite likely you'll only get dungeons in which a healer is needed >.< |
| 11:53.54 | nev-mobile | Lol |
| 11:53.58 | nev-mobile | Moron |
| 11:54.27 | Moonwitch | hey nev :) |
| 11:54.32 | nev-mobile | Tanks are actually the rarest of the bunch |
| 11:54.46 | angayelle | do the setscale command require a savedvariables upon login to restore previous state ? i would think yes but i'm not sure |
| 11:54.48 | Moonwitch | tanks are very hard to come by |
| 11:55.10 | nev-mobile | When i sign up as healer or dps, guess what role i get in 100% of the cases |
| 11:55.22 | Moonwitch | I gave up marking dps even :P |
| 11:55.56 | nev-mobile | I should polish my feral gear and go tank |
| 11:56.03 | nev-mobile | Man, i need a third spec |
| 11:56.06 | Moonwitch | but admittedly my dps is subpar, because I rarely play shadow in dungeons/raids (due to the healer being more popular) |
| 11:56.25 | Moonwitch | nev, indeed -- on shamans and druids 3 specs should be alllowed |
| 11:56.31 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: yes, the scale of the frame will need to be re-set next time the UI is loaded. |
| 11:56.43 | Moonwitch | I can't speak for other classes and spec needs, I've not played all classes. |
| 11:56.58 | angayelle | ok |
| 11:57.07 | nev-mobile | At least shamans only have 2 roles to fill |
| 11:57.16 | jnwhiteh | I'm wondering if I should go feral/resto for 80-85 |
| 11:57.26 | nev-mobile | Ill go moonkin |
| 11:57.28 | jnwhiteh | since all warriors are quitting qq |
| 11:57.50 | nev-mobile | Resto always, only second spec changes. :p |
| 11:57.59 | jnwhiteh | ofc |
| 11:58.07 | Moonwitch | I've (to be honest) not tried resto druid |
| 11:58.09 | jnwhiteh | gear can be shared between boomkin and resto tho |
| 11:58.11 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 11:58.19 | jnwhiteh | how is that possible? |
| 11:58.21 | Moonwitch | But I must say, I like feral tanking a little |
| 11:58.24 | Moonwitch | my druid is 33? |
| 11:58.27 | nev-mobile | I tried feral in beta, and moonkin felt better leveling |
| 11:58.35 | jnwhiteh | oh, that makes sense :P |
| 11:58.56 | Moonwitch | I play a Disc Priest (with shadow offspec), Shaman (Enh/Resto), Pally (Prot/Holy) |
| 11:58.58 | nev-mobile | I did level feral the previous expansions though |
| 11:59.00 | Moonwitch | see a trend there? |
| 11:59.03 | nev-mobile | Time for change! |
| 11:59.20 | Moonwitch | and I've always dreamt of having a boomkin |
| 11:59.31 | Moonwitch | but I found that the low levels aren't so boomkin nice |
| 11:59.39 | Moonwitch | (perhaps with the new talent system it's better) |
| 11:59.43 | zenzio | I play a warrior (protection/blank) |
| 11:59.49 | Moonwitch | mmm warriors |
| 12:00.01 | nev-mobile | But yeah, now that moonkin and resto even share the same favorite stats.. short of trees wanting spirit and moonkins not |
| 12:00.03 | Moonwitch | I can't get into playing them, but I sure as hell LOVE healing em |
| 12:00.34 | nev-mobile | I have a warrior tank, love it |
| 12:01.25 | nev-mobile | Hate melee dps though. Its good for solo, but in groups..meh |
| 12:01.44 | nev-mobile | Rather be casting |
| 12:02.04 | Moonwitch | I have a tough time getting my head around melee dps, but I am finding feral dps and enhancement fun for a change |
| 12:02.04 | zenzio | I rolled my warrior back in early 2006, first char. Had a few alts during slow times, but never really played anything besides the warrior seriously |
| 12:02.54 | Moonwitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.54 | nev-mobile | My druid is a release day char |
| 12:03.03 | nev-mobile | Never switched realms, or even got a new hairstlye |
| 12:03.16 | nev-mobile | I love her the way she is. :P |
| 12:03.35 | Moonwitch | (Not that I dislike those classes, I personally just suck at playing them.) |
| 12:04.07 | nev-mobile | Dk tanking was fun in 3.0, but they ruined the fun for me |
| 12:04.31 | Moonwitch | I don't know, I just never felt comfy as DK |
| 12:04.50 | Moonwitch | I'm always on the edge of panic when playing one |
| 12:05.17 | Moonwitch | and with a hunter -- I don't know why. It's just not for me. Pets don't work for me, though with my lock - no problems |
| 12:07.31 | zenzio | http://www.gamespot.com/news/6282171.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1 - I'm amused by the picture they've chosen |
| 12:10.12 | Computerpunk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKcHct3O_6s |
| 12:10.15 | Computerpunk | I so missed their old stuff. |
| 12:10.23 | Computerpunk | Good thing Adam D produced the album. |
| 12:11.49 | Moonwitch | looksl like I will be trying to get those 7 levels to dual spec my druid |
| 12:12.01 | Moonwitch | or respec to boomkin to test my eclipsebar |
| 12:14.03 | Computerpunk | Hmmm. |
| 12:14.10 | Computerpunk | They added a new graphics interface for Eclipse? |
| 12:14.11 | Computerpunk | -_- |
| 12:14.18 | Computerpunk | thought it was buff only |
| 12:14.19 | Computerpunk | >_< |
| 12:14.20 | Computerpunk | gawd. |
| 12:14.25 | Computerpunk | I got lots of work to do it seems. |
| 12:14.36 | Moonwitch | ps anps does anyone know how/with what I can edit the Context menu in win7? |
| 12:14.49 | Moonwitch | no clue what the anps means lol |
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| 12:17.13 | Moonwitch | hey sylv :) |
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| 12:22.41 | Vilkku | where can I find the colors of the spell overlays provided by default? |
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| 12:23.02 | angayelle | dunno if there is colors |
| 12:23.09 | Vilkku | there are |
| 12:23.22 | Vilkku | you can provide r, g and b values |
| 12:23.33 | angayelle | ah yes |
| 12:23.59 | Vilkku | hmm looks quite nice if I provide no colors at all :P |
| 12:24.06 | angayelle | how so ? |
| 12:24.07 | Vilkku | then it used the color of the actual image |
| 12:24.12 | Vilkku | instead of user specified |
| 12:24.18 | Vilkku | in this case the texture is the blue I wanted to get |
| 12:27.03 | sylvanaar_ipad | Hey Moonwitch |
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| 12:27.20 | Xinhuan | anyone watching the gsl2 stream |
| 12:27.21 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 12:28.38 | Vilkku | I am |
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| 12:31.52 | Vilkku | when I gain a stack of a buff, is there a way for me to find out how many stacks I have of it? |
| 12:31.58 | Vilkku | or do I have to count from the first gain? |
| 12:32.06 | Humbedooh | yep |
| 12:32.46 | Humbedooh | buff applied = aura_applied |
| 12:32.55 | Humbedooh | stack added = aura_applied_dose |
| 12:32.57 | Humbedooh | or something |
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| 12:34.21 | Humbedooh | or use name, rank, icon, count, debuffType, duration, expirationTime, unitCaster, isStealable, shouldConsolidate, spellId |
| 12:34.21 | Humbedooh | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.33 | Humbedooh | and get the count from there |
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| 12:44.21 | Moonwitch | alestane !!! |
| 12:44.28 | alestane | That's me. |
| 12:44.37 | Moonwitch | hows you doing |
| 12:46.05 | Humbedooh | you woke it! |
| 12:46.55 | alestane | In the last month, my three-week-old niece, a dear friend's mother, and another friend's last living grandparent have all died. I'm two weeks out of a job I used to love, and about to go out hunting retail work to make ends meet, which I swore I'd never do again. Saturday morning my 19" monitor wouldn't display a single pixel, and I'm typing this on a cramped 15" I happened to have in the closet. |
| 12:47.21 | alestane | That evening a friend had to leave our D&D game with kidney stones, and when I got back my car had been stolen. |
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| 12:47.46 | zenzio | that's a serious overdose of bad luck :-/ |
| 12:47.55 | alestane | But I'm going to BlizzCon this weekend, I have stalwart friends and a wife who loves me. |
| 12:48.07 | Moonwitch | holy shit alestane |
| 12:48.08 | unfo- | is attending virtually |
| 12:48.09 | Moonwitch | .... |
| 12:48.20 | Moonwitch | you poor guy |
| 12:48.26 | |Jelly| | seconded@ holy shit |
| 12:48.28 | Moonwitch | hugs alestane |
| 12:48.52 | unfo- | alestane, good luck with that above! I just read it |
| 12:49.04 | Moonwitch | and I am sure you'll find another job you'll love, you're too smart to not find something perfect for you... |
| 12:49.16 | Moonwitch | (after the retail thing which I am sure is just temp) |
| 12:50.04 | alestane | Well, right now I am working on making the job I love. I'm still applying, but my skillset has some weird holes in it that make it hard to find a job through the traditional project. |
| 12:50.06 | Moonwitch | And the monitor, while undeniably bad, could have been worse, you could not have had that 15er... |
| 12:50.08 | alestane | process* |
| 12:50.42 | Moonwitch | I know how that feels |
| 12:51.04 | alestane | The retail thing is most definitely temporary. The last time I took holiday retail work, I let myself get sucked into five years of wage slaving, and I'm not making that mistake again. |
| 12:51.28 | Moonwitch | same reason I refuse to work in restaurants/bars etc |
| 12:51.42 | alestane | And I have other freelance work that pays way better, but it's almost nonexistent in the winter, so I need to get through to March or so. |
| 12:52.03 | Maldivia | And this is how we advertise comedy movies in Denmark (NSFW): http://filmz.dk/gallery/full/61172/image/56598 |
| 12:52.22 | alestane | I proposed a game design idea to a friend and he totally got behind it, so now we're working on scraping together art and audio people to fill out the team. |
| 12:52.38 | Moonwitch | cool |
| 12:52.39 | zenzio | they made a movie out of that? |
| 12:52.44 | Moonwitch | keep us posted :) |
| 12:52.50 | Moonwitch | (beta testers perhaps ;)) |
| 12:53.14 | alestane | Well, it's an iPad game, but I will certainly need testers at some point. |
| 12:53.15 | Moonwitch | I'd say I want in, but I have zero knowledge about it |
| 12:53.50 | Moonwitch | with it I mean game design, 3d design... let alone gaming on the iPad |
| 12:54.02 | alestane | So yeah, life kind of sucks right now, but I'm hanging in there. |
| 12:54.05 | Moonwitch | (brb need to reboot, reinstalled gfx drivers to cure a bug in Fx4) |
| 12:54.57 | Vilkku | BOXER HWAITIN |
| 12:55.09 | Vilkku | Xinhuan ^ |
| 12:55.22 | Xinhuan | just completed earth wind fire 25 while watching |
| 12:55.22 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 12:55.34 | Vilkku | here's an interesting problem |
| 12:55.52 | Vilkku | how do I find out when I lose a stack of a buff, but the buff is not removed? |
| 12:56.28 | nev-mobile | There is an event for that |
| 12:56.58 | Vilkku | own event or under COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED? |
| 12:57.17 | nev-mobile | Combat log |
| 12:57.43 | nev-mobile | Spell aura removed dose |
| 12:58.15 | Vilkku | I tried it but it didn't trigger =/ |
| 12:58.42 | nev-mobile | Well turn on event tracer and see if something triggers |
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| 12:59.40 | Vilkku | got any suggestions other than /eventtrace? that is being spammed so quickly I can't figure out what happened when |
| 12:59.54 | Humbedooh | mayhap /combatlog |
| 13:00.04 | Humbedooh | and then good ol' notepad and a pair of reading glasses |
| 13:00.04 | nev-mobile | Get iriels devtools |
| 13:00.13 | nev-mobile | And use that eventtrace |
| 13:00.18 | nev-mobile | It has filters |
| 13:00.39 | nev-mobile | Just show the combat log events |
| 13:00.48 | Moonwitch | wow fx 4 beta 6 has even more gfx bugs now :( |
| 13:02.48 | Moonwitch | nvm itÅ the flash plugin causing the issues |
| 13:02.54 | nev-mobile | Did you install that direct2d hotfix? |
| 13:03.56 | Moonwitch | no |
| 13:03.58 | zenzio | Flash did seem weird to me too when scrolling |
| 13:04.14 | Moonwitch | right now I have stuff flickering all over lol |
| 13:04.39 | Thunder_Child | bl0rbhamm3r |
| 13:04.55 | nev-mobile | Without the hotfix d2d is broken |
| 13:05.13 | nev-mobile | Ms noticed that when they tried to use it for ie9 |
| 13:05.51 | zenzio | nev-mobile: wouldn't that affect Flash in FF3.6 too then? |
| 13:06.04 | nev-mobile | Dunno |
| 13:06.18 | zenzio | either way, where do you get the hotfix? |
| 13:06.18 | nev-mobile | Fx itself is using d2d in 4.0 |
| 13:07.18 | Moonwitch | ok thats it -- rolling back to previous gfx drivers |
| 13:08.24 | nev-mobile | Kb 980922 and 2028560 |
| 13:08.43 | zenzio | cheers |
| 13:09.48 | nev-mobile | The first may or may not have been in windows update |
| 13:09.54 | nev-mobile | The second was not. |
| 13:10.35 | nev-mobile | IE9 brings it though |
| 13:40.25 | alestane | W00t! |
| 13:40.37 | alestane | Hallow's End is still my favorite world event. |
| 13:40.54 | haste | I'm hungry, feed me |
| 13:40.58 | Kraps | i'm considering changing my ident to Skraps |
| 13:45.08 | Ackis | alestane: your car was stolen? |
| 13:46.59 | alestane | Among other problems, Ackis, yes. |
| 13:47.42 | Ackis | yeah I saw all of them on fb |
| 13:47.57 | Ackis | I sent you happy thoughts when I read about them |
| 13:48.05 | Ackis | but car stolen is :( |
| 13:49.10 | alestane | Some shnook broke the window and hotwired it in the middle of the night |
| 13:49.55 | alestane | It's a 12-year-old Civic, but the officer's expectation was that it'll turn up abandoned in a few days, stripped of parts and probably a total loss. |
| 13:50.35 | nev-mobile | Insurance? |
| 13:50.54 | alestane | Will probably reimburse me the trade value. |
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| 13:56.56 | alestane | And as soon as I got into a Headless Horsemen group, WoW locked up on me. |
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| 13:58.40 | Ackis | :( |
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| 14:01.04 | Kraps | the launcher says "applying non-critical updates" but theres no download activity |
| 14:01.31 | Fisker | because it's not downloading anything |
| 14:01.37 | Fisker | it's applying non-critical updates |
| 14:01.49 | Kraps | which means what |
| 14:02.07 | Kraps | or are you just trolling :( |
| 14:02.12 | Humbedooh | that it's working as intended ofc |
| 14:02.13 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 14:02.22 | foxlit | gr. |
| 14:02.38 | Fisker | we're not 100% sure what it does but it creates the cache mpq's |
| 14:02.57 | Kraps | how long will it take |
| 14:02.58 | Ackis | the new launcher is krappy |
| 14:02.58 | Ackis | (see what I did there?) |
| 14:03.17 | Fisker | depends on whether or not it's a completely empty cache Kraps |
| 14:03.25 | Kraps | no Ackis |
| 14:03.27 | Fisker | but it's about 8GB when fully populated |
| 14:03.29 | Fisker | atleast for me |
| 14:03.36 | Fisker | and i think it took about 10-15 minutes to do |
| 14:04.19 | Fisker | anyway i guess the theory is that since the patches are applied on the fly, this cache is basically that, patches that have already been applied as cache instead |
| 14:04.46 | zenzio | it Ackis no sense |
| 14:06.43 | Fisker | zenzelezz |
| 14:06.47 | Fisker | i got a fucking headset |
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| 14:14.04 | Kraps | wtf i'm off my pinball gaming this morning |
| 14:14.28 | Kraps | yay its done Fisker |
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| 14:16.49 | alestane | I feel kinda bad for these mobs whose respawn timers are so short that they reappear before their body despawns. |
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| 14:18.32 | amro | I feel worse when I have to wait 15 minutes for a respawn |
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| 14:19.29 | alestane | I used to have a screenshot with three corpses of Old Murk-eye in it. |
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| 14:37.26 | Kraps | is fallout a zombie shooter? |
| 14:37.30 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://www.trueachievements.com/n2028/rdr-dlc-details-and-stand-alone-disc.htm are you going to buy that? |
| 14:37.35 | Ackis | Kraps: no |
| 14:37.47 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 14:37.58 | Ackis | it's post-apocalyptic RPGish |
| 14:38.00 | Humbedooh | it's a mutant shooter |
| 14:38.06 | Arrowmaster | i havent bought any of the rdr dlc |
| 14:38.08 | Humbedooh | and it's awesome! |
| 14:38.26 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I wonder if you can copy the DLC to your console like Fallout 3 DLC |
| 14:38.34 | Ackis | I haven't bought any either |
| 14:38.46 | Arrowmaster | i doubt it if its a standalone |
| 14:39.05 | Ackis | "The disc will not require a retail copy of Red Dead Redemption to play and will run you $29.99/£24.99" |
| 14:39.11 | Xinhuan | ok who can log on Lost Isle |
| 14:39.15 | Xinhuan | and uh |
| 14:39.22 | Xinhuan | add me as real ID so i can test stuff |
| 14:40.09 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 14:40.15 | Fisker | Fallout: New Vegas or die |
| 14:40.16 | Fisker | D I E |
| 14:40.46 | Humbedooh | I agree with Fisker for once |
| 14:41.01 | Arrowmaster | i have no plans to get new vegas |
| 14:41.19 | Ackis | same, no plans |
| 14:43.11 | Fisker | ~roulette Arrowmaster |
| 14:43.11 | purl | ACTION watches Arrowmaster pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 14:43.13 | Fisker | ~roulette Ackis |
| 14:43.13 | purl | ACTION watches Ackis pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 14:43.43 | Ackis | w00t |
| 14:43.48 | Ackis | ~roulette Fisker |
| 14:43.49 | purl | ACTION watches Fisker pull the trigger: BANG! |
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| 14:44.08 | Ackis | Fisker: I'm going to miss you when I cast spell ID 7 on myself IRL |
| 14:44.09 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:44.13 | Humbedooh | ~roulette purl |
| 14:44.13 | purl | ACTION watches purl pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 14:44.33 | Humbedooh | too many bullets :( |
| 14:46.58 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 14:46.59 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
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| 14:48.43 | mikma | ~tryme |
| 14:48.43 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 14:49.22 | amro | ~roulette mikma |
| 14:49.22 | purl | ACTION watches mikma pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 14:49.28 | amro | owned imo. |
| 14:49.33 | mikma | na |
| 14:49.36 | mikma | i didn't start it so ... |
| 14:49.50 | mikma | shooting others is simple, but shooting yourself is an art |
| 14:50.07 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/8XFrk.png <-lol'd btw |
| 14:51.15 | amro | two fiskers |
| 14:51.19 | amro | must be what's causing the tremors |
| 14:52.04 | Fisker | 3 fiskers actually if you look |
| 14:52.04 | Fisker | :P |
| 14:54.59 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/sadist_masochist_murderer_necrophile_zoophile_pyromaniac_comic.jpg |
| 14:55.57 | krka | disturbingly funny |
| 14:57.23 | amro | im not clicking that url |
| 14:57.29 | amro | it has almost all the keywords I actively avoid in links |
| 14:57.58 | zenzelezz | amro: yeah, "comic" is always a bad sign |
| 14:58.05 | amro | and jpg. |
| 14:58.59 | krka | would it be better if it was webp? |
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| 14:59.23 | Kraps | what about all the _ |
| 14:59.34 | mikma | jesus fucking christ that cataclysm intro was awesoem |
| 14:59.50 | zenzelezz | krka: pfft, the only reliable image format on the net is .gif.vbs |
| 15:00.00 | zenzelezz | mikma: aye |
| 15:00.39 | krka | mikma: link to intro! |
| 15:00.54 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4Y7ztznKc&fmt=22 |
| 15:01.11 | mikma | ( &fmt=22 sets it to 720p ) |
| 15:02.02 | Arrowmaster | so does &hd=1 |
| 15:04.36 | krka | too short! |
| 15:05.00 | Kraps | its fucking deathwing |
| 15:05.11 | Kraps | he'll fuck you up |
| 15:05.36 | krka | better than deathing fuckwing |
| 15:05.43 | krka | that's a real pain! |
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| 15:08.14 | zenzelezz | krka: I'd think fucking Deathwing would be unpleasant too |
| 15:09.06 | durcyn | do you think they metal plated his genitals too? |
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| 15:12.29 | Kraps | at 1:46 you can hear a but of the SW theme, slower and more menacing |
| 15:12.39 | Kraps | s/but/bit/ |
| 15:13.16 | zenzelezz | look out, it's Darthwing! |
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| 15:15.58 | Kraps | http://www.facebook.com/HuskyStarcraft#!/photo.php?fbid=1647474109334&set=t.109590478330 |
| 15:16.28 | Kraps | http://www.facebook.com/HuskyStarcraft#!/photo.php?fbid=168259803185821&set=t.109590478330 |
| 15:16.38 | Kraps | man these are good |
| 15:18.20 | amro | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=805429775247&set=t.109590478330&pid=45477630&id=13610290 |
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| 15:19.51 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: do you have Dawn of War 2 on the PC? |
| 15:19.58 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 15:24.19 | amro | Kraps: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=156665681032556&set=t.109590478330&pid=303285&id=100000673759408 |
| 15:25.17 | Kraps | heh |
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| 15:28.55 | amro | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1582389050435&set=t.109590478330&pid=1467897&id=1556971729 |
| 15:28.58 | amro | epic o shi moment |
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| 15:52.11 | Lunessa | station. |
| 15:52.40 | Humbedooh | procrastination |
| 15:53.13 | Lunessa | I am an Illustrious Grand Master in Procrastination. |
| 15:54.05 | Humbedooh | I got into beta so I'm speciul and should make a guild with as many awesome words like "beta" or "tester" in it |
| 15:54.11 | Humbedooh | ..ation |
| 15:55.12 | durcyn | those aren't beta testers, those are fucking tourists |
| 15:57.14 | Lunessa | could use some hot tourists to f ... |
| 15:58.24 | durcyn | to the Amsterdammobile! |
| 15:59.55 | Fisker | yes |
| 15:59.57 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 15:59.59 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:00.06 | Fisker | you little faggerydoo service is being owned |
| 16:00.38 | durcyn | fisker, how many times do i have to ask you to get a new insult |
| 16:01.10 | Fisker | xbox live? |
| 16:01.22 | durcyn | you know exactly what i'm talking about |
| 16:01.51 | Ackis | what? |
| 16:01.55 | Fisker | not sure if i do |
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| 16:02.16 | Fisker | During the past 12 months the platform had year-over-year new user growth of 178%, pushing the total number of active accounts to over 30 million, with over 1,200 games now offered. Peak simultaneous player numbers were also up to over three million, with over six million unique gamers accessing Steam each day. |
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| 16:02.21 | Fisker | bam |
| 16:02.47 | durcyn | Fisker: just stop using references to sexual orientation as pejoratives, and you'll do fine. |
| 16:03.56 | Fisker | why would i? |
| 16:04.12 | amro | I'm not sure faggerydoo is a sexual orientation |
| 16:04.19 | Fisker | me neither |
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| 16:22.37 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/10/derren-brown-interviews-guardian-times/ |
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| 16:25.58 | Adys | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/260.html |
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| 16:49.13 | Shirik | Worst job advice ever, from friend to me: "and I highly doubt <company> wouldn't give you whatever you ask lol. ask for a pet cow, and a girraffe" |
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| 16:51.33 | Ackis | "Think about the porn. There's more porn than air now." |
| 16:52.22 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:52.27 | Fisker | xbox live sucks |
| 16:52.48 | Ackis | k |
| 16:52.52 | Ackis | it's better than PSN |
| 16:53.07 | Fisker | that's not saying much |
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| 16:54.36 | Ackis | I forget, is Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs a crock of shit, or not? |
| 16:58.04 | amro | depends on how shallow a given person is |
| 16:58.16 | amro | for most people, it's dead on imo |
| 17:00.20 | amro | Shirik: I'd ask for a regulation size trampoline and an official NBA let's blast it air horn |
| 17:00.26 | amro | and a bowl of skittles |
| 17:00.40 | Shirik | they actually would not be surprised by the bowl of skittles |
| 17:00.57 | amro | please tell me you got the reference :( |
| 17:01.09 | Shirik | ummm |
| 17:01.14 | Shirik | please wait while I google |
| 17:01.37 | Shirik | ok that told me nothing |
| 17:01.38 | Shirik | so no |
| 17:01.50 | Shirik | was it a movie? |
| 17:01.52 | Shirik | I don't watch movies |
| 17:02.25 | amro | you don't watch awesome either |
| 17:02.31 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdgXdgebiYU |
| 17:02.34 | amro | that and the scene before it |
| 17:02.36 | amro | which isn't on YT |
| 17:02.37 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:02.41 | Fisker | Steam is awesome |
| 17:02.50 | Shirik | oh psych |
| 17:02.53 | Shirik | I've seen this like 3 times |
| 17:04.06 | amro | I've seen every episode at least 3 times |
| 17:04.28 | Shirik | it's an ok show |
| 17:04.38 | amro | it's an awesome show |
| 17:04.53 | amro | what else are you going to watch? |
| 17:04.56 | amro | other than the mentalist |
| 17:05.43 | Shirik | nothing? |
| 17:06.03 | Adys | watch psych |
| 17:06.04 | Adys | period |
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| 17:06.53 | haste | watch peiod |
| 17:06.55 | haste | psych |
| 17:07.16 | haste | I'm out of r's btw :( |
| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | lua> "r":rep(100) |
| 17:07.45 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"r"' |
| 17:07.46 | Shirik | here have some rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 17:07.51 | Shirik | nevcairielfail |
| 17:07.51 | nevcairiel | lua> ("r"):rep(100) |
| 17:07.52 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 17:07.54 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 17:07.57 | Fisker | are you out of steam? |
| 17:07.57 | nevcairiel | there is more for you ^ |
| 17:08.29 | haste | yays |
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| 17:11.20 | Hirsute | So... get this. Friday I leave the office, get home and pull out the power adapter for my laptop, go to plug it in and notice its plug is missing a prong. I look everywhere for it, hoping to be able to jimmy-rig it into working again, but can't find it anywhere. |
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| 17:11.32 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:11.34 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
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| 17:12.16 | amro | Shirik |
| 17:12.21 | amro | creep tumors are called tumeur muqueuse in french |
| 17:12.25 | amro | >< |
| 17:12.26 | Hirsute | spend the weekend trying to replace the plug-head itself, with no success and finally give up and this morning buy a new adapter. Get into the office, and find the missing prong still in the outlet here. |
| 17:12.42 | Hirsute | It's the only outlet I have access to, and I don't have access to the breaker panel to pull the prong out. |
| 17:12.45 | Hirsute | Fun. |
| 17:13.56 | KarlKFI|work | as long as you dont accidently put the pliers in both holes you should be able to pull out 1 prong |
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| 17:15.56 | kd3|netbook | wtfs at fark |
| 17:16.06 | kd3|netbook | "Desperately courting the pro-Kari Byron and/or geek vote, Obama to appear on an episode of "Mythbusters". Show will determine if Archimedes using a giant magnifying glasses could forge a birth certificate " |
| 17:16.18 | kd3|netbook | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101018/ap_on_sc/us_obama_science |
| 17:17.59 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 17:18.24 | Fisker | loves kd3|netbook |
| 17:20.30 | KarlKFI|work | kd3: looks liek they changed the article on you |
| 17:20.40 | kd3|netbook | indeed |
| 17:21.45 | amro | I'd say no |
| 17:21.48 | amro | but macgyver could |
| 17:21.59 | amro | using a toothbrush and a USB cable |
| 17:22.58 | industrial | I'm thinking about starting some broker addons (plugins?). Where do I start reading? |
| 17:23.08 | industrial | to replace idInfobar |
| 17:24.33 | haste | industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Niqa4J2NJY&fmt=22 |
| 17:24.42 | nevcairiel | tekkubs libdatabroker page is a good start |
| 17:24.51 | nevcairiel | on github |
| 17:24.56 | Vilkku | anyone here who had the chance to play around with SpellActivationOverlay stuff? |
| 17:27.22 | industrial | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV0OI4qyDVE |
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| 17:28.23 | haste | vocal reminds me of something |
| 17:30.04 | Vilkku | where can I find the .lua files of blizzard mods? I know there is some website that shows the contents but I can't remember what it's called =( |
| 17:30.10 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 17:30.23 | haste | hey Fisker |
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| 17:31.33 | Fisker | it's a trap? |
| 17:32.18 | haste | no |
| 17:32.30 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 17:33.45 | nicoli_s | man i wish i didnt break my glasses :( |
| 17:34.22 | Fisker | breaks nicoli_s |
| 17:34.28 | Fisker | there, all better |
| 17:36.14 | haste | how do you like it? |
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| 17:43.44 | Ackis | holy shit |
| 17:43.45 | Ackis | http://youtu.be/eRsGyueVLvQ?hd=1 |
| 17:43.51 | Ackis | if you have 15 minutes, watch that video |
| 17:44.15 | Fisker | why would i? |
| 17:44.38 | Ackis | Fisker, I was talking to the human beings of the channel, not the trolls |
| 17:46.12 | Fisker | which is why i asked why |
| 17:46.24 | industrial | nevcairiel: Correct me if I'm wrong; if all I want to do is show text in LDB, just a value (eg #fps) I just populate the key 'text' in the data object I pass and the managing of updating that text I manage myself? |
| 17:48.21 | Ackis | Fisker: it's an open source animated short-movie, first of it's kind, pretty interesting |
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| 17:49.31 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 17:50.07 | Computerpunk | Ackis, o.o |
| 17:50.35 | Computerpunk | Just shows you |
| 17:50.44 | Computerpunk | How good it can get. |
| 17:50.53 | Computerpunk | look at your wow's graphics |
| 17:50.56 | Computerpunk | then back at sintel's |
| 17:51.52 | Fisker | then back at your man |
| 17:52.42 | nevcairiel | Computerpunk: how can you even begin to compare a rendered video to a realtime game? :P |
| 17:52.52 | Computerpunk | Yes. |
| 17:52.53 | Computerpunk | :D |
| 17:53.14 | Computerpunk | this actual video interacts with you. |
| 17:53.27 | nevcairiel | High quality animation takes longer for one frame to render then for you to run a LFD :d |
| 17:53.52 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 17:53.53 | haste | I see you mention youtube Ackis, but all I get is realplayer |
| 17:53.56 | haste | BUFFERING |
| 17:54.22 | Computerpunk | so it takes 2 seconds to get a frame rendered? |
| 17:54.22 | Computerpunk | k |
| 17:55.01 | amro | it takes a server farm to get renders in a reasonable time frame |
| 17:55.09 | amro | there's really no comparison to realtime graphics |
| 17:55.27 | amro | 60fps vs 60spf |
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| 18:01.24 | Ackis | nevcairiel: the amazing thing about what I linked is that it took only $550k to make... and the quality is amazing |
| 18:01.24 | Ackis | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101002/20174711259/open-source-animated-movie-shows-what-can-be-done-today.shtml |
| 18:01.25 | nicoli_s | Ackis:looks photoshopped |
| 18:03.17 | nevcairiel | It is, well, rendered anyway :P |
| 18:03.57 | Ackis | I wasn't comparing it with games, I was comparing it with animated movies of today |
| 18:05.49 | mikma | so |
| 18:06.00 | mikma | rogues can put a poison in thrown-weapons, too |
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| 18:08.47 | Humbedooh | aaw, a dwagon |
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| 18:12.29 | nicoli_s | http://www.lovegodsway.org/GayBands |
| 18:12.34 | nicoli_s | beware the gay bands! |
| 18:13.13 | Dagmar | Ackis: Actually it kinda says more about how much software the average computer animator wants their employer to buy in order to be able to do work |
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| 18:17.01 | nicoli_s | http://www.lovegodsway.org/Images/buyingforLGW.jpg |
| 18:18.21 | Dagmar | Pfft. For a minute there I thought that was a real site |
| 18:18.52 | Dagmar | You know, that stuff ceases to be funny when you wind up in a Christian bookstore, and basically, _that's the shit they're selling_ |
| 18:20.50 | nicoli_s | dagmar:it is |
| 18:20.58 | nicoli_s | its totally real |
| 18:22.13 | alestane | Nothing like starting early: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-21572.html |
| 18:24.02 | alestane | Lunessa, http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-21562.html |
| 18:26.17 | industrial | Is there a place/table where the colors for gold, silver and copper are stored? |
| 18:26.21 | olafski | deep fried beer snack eh |
| 18:26.32 | olafski | those things have colors? |
| 18:26.42 | olafski | I mean, where are they used as plain colors instead of icons? |
| 18:26.58 | industrial | hm dunno :P |
| 18:27.20 | olafski | there's a really nice function to convert an amount of copper into a string with icons in it |
| 18:27.25 | olafski | maybe that can help you |
| 18:27.25 | Fisker | anyway Ackis |
| 18:27.31 | Fisker | played some Fallout: NV yet? |
| 18:27.50 | industrial | olafski: oh that'd be nice. I'm doing %sg %ss %sc now :P |
| 18:28.44 | olafski | :) |
| 18:28.49 | olafski | getcointexturestring or something |
| 18:29.21 | olafski | I still use your questautomation btw :P |
| 18:29.29 | industrial | \o/ updated it for 4.0.1 |
| 18:29.47 | olafski | nice nice |
| 18:29.57 | olafski | I updated my addon too but I get the feeling I broke it somehow |
| 18:30.18 | olafski | I don't notice the problems but I've heard from 2 people that it's making their wow crash |
| 18:30.23 | industrial | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCoinTextureString |
| 18:30.26 | Lunessa | alestane considering that I'm on vacation today and been drunk since 11:00 - those texts are about right. |
| 18:30.39 | industrial | olafski: I'm having random crashes aswell |
| 18:30.48 | industrial | dunno what it is :s |
| 18:30.56 | alestane | Are you flying to Cali this time, Lunessa? |
| 18:30.59 | olafski | are you using my addon? :P |
| 18:31.09 | Kraps | http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/10/18/facebook.apps.privacy/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn |
| 18:31.23 | industrial | olafski: don't think so. what's the name? |
| 18:31.24 | Lunessa | alestane Yes, my flight is at O-FUCK-EARLY on Wed. |
| 18:32.06 | alestane | Ah. Seerah and I are actually meeting in Dallas Thursday afternoon for the last leg of our respective flights, would have been funny if you were on it too. |
| 18:32.35 | Lunessa | Heh, I'm flying through Dallas too, but a day earlier. |
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| 18:33.38 | Kraps | whoa http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27292693370/holy-paladins-compilation-of-problems-4-01/ |
| 18:34.02 | industrial | \o/ http://images.gammatester.com/pics/02ed91251c3d258c0336ff6ce81f8cf7.jpg |
| 18:34.15 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-21563.html |
| 18:34.26 | Lunessa | lol |
| 18:34.55 | industrial | Maybe I should put my minimap on the bottom. |
| 18:35.00 | olafski | industrial: AutoVendor |
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| 18:35.20 | industrial | olafski: nop, got idSellGreyItems :") |
| 18:35.23 | industrial | -" |
| 18:35.26 | olafski | :( |
| 18:35.31 | olafski | mine sells more than greys! |
| 18:35.43 | industrial | ow |
| 18:35.44 | olafski | but I guess I'm not really advertising it well like this ;) |
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| 18:36.07 | Ackis | http://io9.com/5664390/5-times-we-almost-nuked-ourselves-by-accident |
| 18:36.13 | Ackis | damn americans ^ |
| 18:36.18 | Kraps | olafski: what bar mod is that? |
| 18:36.19 | industrial | srsly^ |
| 18:36.35 | olafski | mine sells greys, BoP items you can't put on and BoP items that are less than optimal |
| 18:36.41 | olafski | kraps: I didn't post any screenshot :o |
| 18:36.42 | industrial | Kraps: NinjaPanel on top and Bongos bottom |
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| 18:36.50 | industrial | err, Dominos |
| 18:36.59 | Kraps | olafski: my bad |
| 18:37.01 | olafski | :) |
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| 18:42.01 | Shirik | seriously, who came up with this unit of measurement the "airwatt" |
| 18:42.44 | Fisker | i did Shirik |
| 18:42.45 | Fisker | hail me |
| 18:42.47 | industrial | airheads :D |
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| 18:43.58 | Humbedooh | airwatt has its uses |
| 18:44.44 | Humbedooh | awesomeness = effect * airwatt/watt ! |
| 18:46.43 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Humbedooh |
| 18:46.55 | Humbedooh | was he hot? |
| 18:47.15 | Humbedooh | or more like Adys |
| 18:47.21 | Adys | right |
| 18:47.25 | Humbedooh | :> |
| 18:49.41 | Fisker | i pity the fool Humbedooh |
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| 18:50.20 | Humbedooh | You're also missing some punctuation, Fisker. |
| 18:50.22 | elb0w | Is it possible to have an addon scan the auctionhouse and create a table of all items? |
| 18:50.34 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 18:50.35 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Shirik&limit=3 |
| 18:50.37 | Shirik | Strange people |
| 18:50.42 | Humbedooh | most AH addons do that, elb0w |
| 18:51.01 | Cide | that's a long tooltip |
| 18:51.03 | elb0w | What are the limitations, can you have a addon buy automatically? |
| 18:51.22 | elb0w | or does that require user interaction? |
| 18:52.05 | kd3|netbook | buying requires a physical click |
| 18:52.17 | kd3|netbook | but you can get a list all you want |
| 18:52.22 | Fisker | physically clicks kd3|netbook |
| 18:52.22 | elb0w | darn |
| 18:52.24 | elb0w | :( |
| 18:52.38 | elb0w | does adding auctions require as well? |
| 18:52.49 | Humbedooh | one click to initiate atm |
| 18:53.00 | Humbedooh | I think |
| 18:53.00 | Fisker | and only "one type" of auction per click |
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| 18:53.29 | Humbedooh | so fx. you can make 20 x 5 stacks of weed with one click |
| 18:53.41 | Humbedooh | but not 20x5 and 10x10 |
| 18:54.33 | Dagmar | Same rule applies as everywhere else in-game: Botting not allowed. |
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| 18:54.49 | Fisker | not really Dagmar |
| 18:54.58 | Fisker | When you make statements, the least you could do is try to get it right |
| 18:54.59 | Dagmar | Yes, really. |
| 18:55.39 | Archarodim | Is Patch 4.0.1 released everywhere ? |
| 18:55.46 | Dagmar | Having the client automatically make decisions about buying and selling is botting |
| 18:55.52 | kd3|netbook | except china |
| 18:56.10 | Dagmar | It's been handy, but I've never been under any illusions that Blizzard woudlnt' someday stop it because of abuse (and people do abuse it) |
| 18:56.11 | Fargos | are there the new xml files from blizzard ui anywhere? |
| 18:56.13 | Humbedooh | china just got ruby sanctum :> |
| 18:56.21 | kd3|netbook | ~framexml |
| 18:56.21 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 18:56.30 | Dagmar | Takes time to get all those skeletons out of the clkient |
| 18:57.14 | Fargos | thx =) only new the wowprogramming link and those were old files |
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| 18:57.38 | kd3|netbook | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ is a shortcut to the first link, easily memorable |
| 18:58.00 | Archarodim | hmmm China government is probably reviewing the content before allowing release... |
| 18:58.13 | Shirik | http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1809928 |
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| 19:00.51 | Cide | that's pretty funny |
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| 19:02.16 | olafski | good advice too |
| 19:02.34 | Dagmar | I think blizz should tell them that htey don't get any more updates until they start doing something about their farmers |
| 19:02.49 | Dagmar | Maybe just add it to the list of things they cripple you for doing |
| 19:03.17 | Dagmar | You get caught being a part of a goldfarming operation on US servers, they smash your fingers with a hammer and call it day |
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| 19:03.41 | Fisker | why not shoot them? |
| 19:03.48 | Fisker | two problems solved at the same time |
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| 19:05.19 | olafski | indeed |
| 19:07.22 | durcyn | those pesky third world peasants caused problems in my fake video game again, obviously their lives should end |
| 19:08.01 | olafski | it's a real video game |
| 19:10.11 | Fisker | agree with olafski |
| 19:10.30 | Fisker | anyone who calls world of warcraft a fake video game deserves to be in that pile of corpses |
| 19:10.31 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 19:13.05 | Dagmar | durcyn: I didn't say anything about killing them, just crippling them |
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| 19:13.29 | Dagmar | ...which is more a commentary on how the Chinese do things than anything else. |
| 19:14.15 | Hirsute | Late to the conversation, but as far as I'm aware, none of the AH functions for posting, bidding, or cancelling will take a list any more. One click per AH event. |
| 19:14.34 | Dagmar | Yeah, no longer bottable |
| 19:14.46 | olafski | they did before? |
| 19:14.59 | Dagmar | Yeah you could set up batch posting with something like AUctioneer |
| 19:15.05 | olafski | I'm not really into auctioning, the addon I used only put a bunch of equal sized stacks up for the same price |
| 19:15.11 | olafski | oh.. hm |
| 19:15.15 | olafski | ah well not something I'd use anyway :) |
| 19:15.44 | Dagmar | It was *handy* for the average user, becuse you could easily set up rules to just flush all the say, previous tier healing potions from your inventory into the auction house and never have to think about them again |
| 19:15.59 | Dagmar | ...but it was being abused by folks looking to leech money out of the AH on a wide scale |
| 19:16.00 | olafski | hm yeah guess that would be nice =) |
| 19:16.09 | olafski | oh I actually did use Quick Auctions for that kind of thing |
| 19:16.24 | olafski | selling enchants on vellums |
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| 19:16.47 | Dagmar | I'll take the minor hassle if it keeps people from mass-buying across hundreds of markets with one click |
| 19:16.56 | olafski | aye |
| 19:17.09 | olafski | I wouldn't consider what I did botting.. others may disagree though |
| 19:17.35 | olafski | just like I have nothing against multiboxers.. guess some don't agree with that either :) |
| 19:17.40 | jnwhiteh | so if I was going to do ICC.. as a healer.. what do I need to know? |
| 19:17.44 | Dagmar | Well, I considered what I was doing with Auctioneer botting, but it was pretty damn trivial levels of it tho |
| 19:17.54 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: Dreamwalker is easy mode for you |
| 19:17.56 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 19:18.16 | Dagmar | ...and you get to swim around |
| 19:18.25 | Cide | make sure you get the addon um |
| 19:18.26 | Fisker | new patch or something? |
| 19:18.28 | Cide | what's its name |
| 19:18.29 | Cide | PerfectRaid |
| 19:18.31 | Cide | it's the best. |
| 19:18.33 | jnwhiteh | Dagmar: do I need to know the boss strats? |
| 19:18.39 | jnwhiteh | should I grab DBM or bigwigs? |
| 19:18.44 | Fisker | dxe |
| 19:18.45 | Fisker | pl0x |
| 19:18.59 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: Yes, but on Dreamwalker it's actually important because the *healers* actually drive the fight forward |
| 19:19.17 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:19.22 | jnwhiteh | so I should actually learn the strats |
| 19:19.26 | jnwhiteh | or is there something that'll show me in-game? |
| 19:19.31 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: DPS/tanks all just run interference during Dreamwalker, so that one you should read up |
| 19:19.36 | Dagmar | You're gonna need to read up on it |
| 19:19.43 | industrial | sigh, blizzard should make me able to requeue after a bg :| |
| 19:19.52 | industrial | you can /dungeonmaster from anywhere so why not pvp aswell |
| 19:19.54 | Dagmar | At points you have to go through a portal into the dream world or whatever and suck up bubbles that boost your healing |
| 19:19.57 | ckknight | jnwhiteh: do you have people that'll tell you what to do? |
| 19:19.59 | Hirsute | olafski: Cancelling didn't used to require a HW event at all, then it did, but you could pass a list to the function, so you could still mass cancel. You can no longer do this. Bidding used to be the same way, you had to press hardware to fire the function, but you used to be able to pass a list. None of this is true any more. Each call can only perform one action now. |
| 19:20.06 | jnwhiteh | ckknight: no, I was going to join a PUG |
| 19:20.11 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:20.12 | jnwhiteh | just to experience some of these encounters |
| 19:20.12 | ckknight | okay |
| 19:20.22 | jnwhiteh | I've beaten the first boss once =) |
| 19:20.42 | olafski | hirsute: good things :) |
| 19:20.52 | industrial | Hey wow players we've noticed you like pvp AND pve so we put a pvp button in your interface you can pvp while you pve |
| 19:21.01 | industrial | see what I did there? |
| 19:21.03 | Dagmar | You can wing it all the way through to the first boss past the Loot Ship |
| 19:21.20 | Dagmar | Those first fights are straightforward enough that smart people won't need a lot of instruction on them |
| 19:21.21 | durcyn | olafski: eh, GnomishAuctionShrinker batch posting still works |
| 19:21.29 | Hirsute | olafski: pisses a lot of our users off, but but it doesn't bother me too much. |
| 19:21.30 | Dagmar | After that, shit gets crucial, as the saying goes |
| 19:21.44 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:21.45 | olafski | hirsute: who are "our" users? :) |
| 19:21.46 | Hirsute | Auctioneer batch posting still works, it just requires a confirmation click when you move to the next auction. |
| 19:21.50 | jnwhiteh | they want 4 bosses down min |
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| 19:21.56 | Hirsute | olafski: I work on Auctioneer |
| 19:21.56 | jnwhiteh | I don't have that |
| 19:22.00 | olafski | hirsute: ah okay :) |
| 19:22.05 | jnwhiteh | so I'd need a way to fake my achievement heh |
| 19:22.15 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: Any group of people who aren't retarded and are geared for heroics stand a good chance of getting that far |
| 19:22.15 | olafski | wasn't there a website to do that? |
| 19:22.18 | Computerpunk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xon04MB1rDw |
| 19:22.22 | Computerpunk | Anyone who agrees he's a good? |
| 19:22.35 | jnwhiteh | Dagmar: well I know I'mc apable of doing it |
| 19:22.41 | jnwhiteh | my WHGS is only 2670 tho |
| 19:22.46 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: The first four are pretty easy basically, and with the 30% buff going? Wow |
| 19:23.02 | jnwhiteh | DBM or BigWigs? |
| 19:23.08 | Dagmar | The orc and his blood beasts (after Loot Ship) are where it starts to get tricky |
| 19:23.18 | olafski | I offered my gf's guild to fill in as a dps for one night, they declined and cancelled the raid.. 10man icc =) |
| 19:23.28 | Dagmar | Either, afaik DBM works fine for me |
| 19:23.35 | Fisker | DXE |
| 19:23.44 | kd3|netbook | dbm are goldselling-ad-running bastages, though |
| 19:23.46 | kd3|netbook | points to bugwigs |
| 19:23.48 | Dagmar | ...although I'm about to switch to BigWigs because DBM still has ads for fucking gear sellers and goldfarmers |
| 19:23.49 | kd3|netbook | big* |
| 19:24.05 | Fisker | agrees with kd3|netbook's bugwigs and points at DXE |
| 19:24.36 | Dagmar | I thought they'd *said* they were going to stop running those ads, but I guess we know what their word is good for now |
| 19:25.08 | jnwhiteh | I need upgrades =/ |
| 19:25.53 | mikma | jnwhiteh: dbm :P |
| 19:25.55 | durcyn | farm heroic dungeons for 2 months then level past it |
| 19:26.14 | olafski | I like dbm too.. never tried anything else |
| 19:26.17 | jnwhiteh | there's not much for me to purchase |
| 19:26.20 | jnwhiteh | heroics won't do it. |
| 19:26.28 | industrial | raid :D? |
| 19:26.35 | olafski | no friend's guild to take you along jnwhiteh? |
| 19:26.56 | industrial | jnwhiteh: where do you play nowadays |
| 19:26.57 | jnwhiteh | what friends? |
| 19:27.00 | olafski | I'd like to be carried through a couple of bosses .. can't be bothered to apply for a guild though, but I guess I'll have to if I want those nice guild bonuses in cata |
| 19:27.02 | jnwhiteh | Emerald Dream |
| 19:27.06 | industrial | k |
| 19:27.37 | krka | i think it's sort of sad that most people won't get to experience all the content in wow |
| 19:27.42 | krka | *most players even |
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| 19:28.00 | jnwhiteh | krka: I think they will with the raid changes, actually. |
| 19:28.10 | jnwhiteh | I think it's a good thing for that. |
| 19:28.30 | krka | raid changes? |
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| 19:29.14 | olafski | more people than ever are experiencing it now I'd say.. if they'd make it even more accessible raiding would really not be raiding anymore imo |
| 19:29.19 | nevcairiel | I dont think cataclysm makes raids more accessible to people |
| 19:29.27 | olafski | would be nice if I could solo ICC, though :) |
| 19:29.32 | jnwhiteh | I was under impression that the changes would help that |
| 19:29.39 | jnwhiteh | fucking gs needs to die. |
| 19:29.42 | jnwhiteh | I know that much |
| 19:29.48 | olafski | I thought raiding would be harder in cata again |
| 19:29.50 | jnwhiteh | that and achievements are the main reason I can't get in anywhere. |
| 19:29.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm just going to have to join a guild |
| 19:30.05 | olafski | jnwhiteh: oh the horror :D |
| 19:30.16 | jnwhiteh | olafski: I don't know anyone here! |
| 19:30.22 | olafski | :) |
| 19:30.25 | olafski | no friends playing? |
| 19:30.29 | nevcairiel | Cata will actually increase difficulty in 10mans, which was somewhat easier now, and for pugs easier to build up |
| 19:30.35 | jnwhiteh | not on this server, no. |
| 19:30.35 | olafski | I really don't want to get into a guild either |
| 19:30.39 | nevcairiel | so, i guess we'll see how it goes |
| 19:30.43 | olafski | jnwhiteh: transfer =) |
| 19:30.53 | jnwhiteh | olafski: every single time I do that, my 'friends' leave =) |
| 19:30.57 | olafski | :( |
| 19:31.05 | olafski | come to my realm.. though I guess you're in US |
| 19:31.12 | jnwhiteh | glares at haste industrial and mikma |
| 19:31.13 | jnwhiteh | no, I'm EU |
| 19:31.17 | olafski | oh :P |
| 19:31.19 | jnwhiteh | but its expensive to transfer |
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| 19:33.39 | Computerpunk | waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait. |
| 19:33.41 | Computerpunk | What realm? |
| 19:33.52 | Computerpunk | inb4 transfer with whole guild |
| 19:33.52 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 19:34.24 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 19:34.30 | jnwhiteh | I'm on ED-EU |
| 19:34.30 | Computerpunk | which realm to transfer to"? |
| 19:34.32 | Computerpunk | ED? |
| 19:34.39 | Computerpunk | Ally or Horde? |
| 19:34.52 | Computerpunk | I know what ED is. |
| 19:34.55 | Computerpunk | Was just intrigued. |
| 19:35.05 | Computerpunk | All my friends left that place. |
| 19:35.12 | kd3|netbook | thinks 'encyclopedia dramatica' before 'emerald dream' these days... |
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| 19:35.33 | nevcairiel | i see a recurring scheme there with friends leaving ED |
| 19:36.15 | Computerpunk | kd3, ehehehe. |
| 19:36.17 | olafski | jnwhiteh: don't you make tons of money on Clique? ;) |
| 19:36.25 | olafski | jnwhiteh: come to dragonblight, we have cookies and such |
| 19:36.29 | jnwhiteh | I make a fair amount in donations |
| 19:36.34 | olafski | I wouldn't be able to get you into a raid either though :P |
| 19:36.37 | Computerpunk | Dragonblight. |
| 19:36.41 | Computerpunk | olafski, what battlegroup is it in? |
| 19:36.46 | olafski | no clue |
| 19:36.51 | jnwhiteh | its justa pita |
| 19:36.56 | olafski | I don't pvp |
| 19:37.01 | jnwhiteh | why couldn't you get me into a raid? |
| 19:37.15 | olafski | I don't have a guild or friends on this realm :) |
| 19:37.26 | olafski | well some friends, just no guild |
| 19:38.05 | Computerpunk | inb4 guilds with 5 signatures in charter |
| 19:38.17 | olafski | wtf is this inb4 stuff |
| 19:38.23 | olafski | and it doesn't even seem appropriate :P |
| 19:38.30 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i didn't leave, i was invited to finnish guild, that's why i said you need to learn finnish ;) |
| 19:38.46 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:38.52 | jnwhiteh | that counts as leaving to me =) |
| 19:39.06 | mikma | i only moved 1 char! |
| 19:39.15 | haste | jnwhiteh: fun fact! I have a L80 on both ravencrest and grim batol :P |
| 19:39.23 | haste | and both are priests :( |
| 19:39.32 | mikma | ain't the other warlock |
| 19:39.49 | haste | I have that as well |
| 19:40.10 | olafski | I have a lvl 80 on dragonblight and turalyon |
| 19:40.20 | olafski | well, 9 on dragonblight and 1 on turalyon.. :) |
| 19:41.36 | olafski | wait 8 on db |
| 19:41.38 | jnwhiteh | I have my 1 level 8 |
| 19:41.42 | jnwhiteh | and a 73/74 DK :P |
| 19:41.44 | jnwhiteh | 80 I mean |
| 19:41.46 | jnwhiteh | at least on EU |
| 19:42.04 | Computerpunk | jnwhiteh, I quit 2 chars at 78-79 |
| 19:42.09 | Computerpunk | because of bad servers. |
| 19:42.27 | olafski | I "paused" 2 at 74.. rogue and warlock |
| 19:42.30 | olafski | so boring, pure dps |
| 19:43.24 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:43.27 | jnwhiteh | I have 18 masks to get |
| 19:43.29 | jnwhiteh | how does one get them? |
| 19:43.37 | nevcairiel | trick or treat the innkeepers |
| 19:43.44 | olafski | so nice to not have to worry about world events anymore :D |
| 19:43.46 | nevcairiel | once per hour. |
| 19:43.51 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:43.56 | nevcairiel | also, screw that achievement, its not in the meta |
| 19:44.20 | olafski | yeah :) |
| 19:44.44 | jnwhiteh | oh yeah |
| 19:44.47 | jnwhiteh | i thought i had the achi already |
| 19:44.53 | jnwhiteh | turns out it was on another page =) |
| 19:45.35 | industrial | where do i level 36-40? not STV .. |
| 19:45.41 | olafski | desolace? |
| 19:45.50 | Cide | dungeon finder? |
| 19:45.57 | olafski | cide++ |
| 19:46.21 | industrial | dungeon forever? |
| 19:46.28 | industrial | I am subtelity and kill most mobs in 1 hit |
| 19:46.37 | industrial | not really wirth much in instances I think |
| 19:46.48 | nevcairiel | badlands, dustwallow marsh, swamp of sorrows, all 35-45 areas |
| 19:46.49 | Cide | questing involves running |
| 19:46.49 | olafski | get to higher level zones then :P |
| 19:47.01 | olafski | wowwiki.com/zones_by_level :) |
| 19:47.05 | Cide | running is to be avoided at all costs |
| 19:47.10 | jnwhiteh | dungeons take too long now =) |
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| 19:47.21 | jnwhiteh | to get into one i mean |
| 19:47.23 | Cide | too long? |
| 19:47.25 | Cide | ah |
| 19:47.27 | nevcairiel | Cide: but its world of walkcraft |
| 19:47.30 | Cide | not as a priest or tank |
| 19:47.33 | Cide | healer/tank |
| 19:47.35 | jnwhiteh | i'm a healer. |
| 19:47.45 | amro | industrial: dustwallow marsh works |
| 19:47.46 | jnwhiteh | its taking more than 3 minutes =( |
| 19:47.51 | amro | bigger problem is 48-52 |
| 19:47.52 | Cide | you're spoiled :P |
| 19:47.52 | nevcairiel | thats long for you? |
| 19:47.56 | industrial | amro: h right I always forget about that |
| 19:47.58 | nevcairiel | i wait that long on 80 these days |
| 19:48.01 | Cide | you can always quest in between |
| 19:48.02 | nevcairiel | damn tanks are in short supply |
| 19:48.18 | olafski | yay for being tank ;) |
| 19:48.18 | Cide | I would queue as a tank on my 28 priest if I could |
| 19:48.25 | Cide | (and successfully tank) |
| 19:48.27 | foxlit | insufficient vespine gas, nevcairiel |
| 19:48.32 | amro | Cide: queuing on random dungeon is not always an option |
| 19:48.35 | amro | you might get maraudon |
| 19:48.40 | amro | shudders |
| 19:48.43 | Cide | maraudon is fine |
| 19:48.45 | foxlit | can't spell nevcairiel without iriel. |
| 19:48.47 | foxlit | whoah. |
| 19:48.47 | Cide | or just leave and quest for 10 min or whatever |
| 19:48.49 | olafski | maraudon is nice |
| 19:48.57 | nevcairiel | foxlit: you noticed that now, eh |
| 19:48.58 | olafski | now that they split it into 3 |
| 19:49.14 | foxlit | nevcairiel: you were previously known to me as nev-tab |
| 19:49.28 | olafski | well it wasn't bad before but like gnomeregan, hard to get people to stay for a full run |
| 19:49.43 | Cide | sadly I'm on 3/4 gnomeregan |
| 19:50.11 | nevcairiel | when you disect the name further, you'll also notice there is "cair" in it. It is, however, a totally random name that i had way before WoW started, or i knew any of these :p |
| 19:50.15 | amro | olafski: difficulty in getting people to stay and badness of the instance are closely related |
| 19:51.06 | Cide | proportional* |
| 19:51.54 | amro | even if you got to the end of mara, you were treated to the ugliest most disgusting boss ever |
| 19:53.00 | Computerpunk | dayum. |
| 19:53.02 | Computerpunk | I just realised. |
| 19:53.09 | Computerpunk | I got sprained finger AND broken rib. |
| 19:53.09 | Computerpunk | ;3 |
| 19:54.02 | mikma | so |
| 19:54.02 | amro | yeah I always forget when I have a broken rib. |
| 19:54.09 | mikma | what the hell is going on with the tanking |
| 19:54.21 | mikma | seems like whatever we do we always lose aggro |
| 19:54.28 | olafski | how did you just realize that computerpunk? |
| 19:54.34 | Computerpunk | No, I just realised I had both |
| 19:54.35 | amro | mikma: I think it's just a numbers thing atm |
| 19:54.38 | olafski | I imagine a broken rib hurts.. don't know about sprained finger |
| 19:54.48 | Computerpunk | I knew I had them seperately. |
| 19:55.06 | Computerpunk | separately* |
| 19:55.50 | Computerpunk | I should stay at home. |
| 19:55.55 | Computerpunk | But nooo, my doctor's in Cyprus. |
| 19:56.01 | amro | that makes no sense Computerpunk |
| 19:56.03 | amro | no sense at all |
| 19:56.08 | Computerpunk | <_> |
| 19:56.10 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
| 19:56.20 | Computerpunk | I never realised I had so many wrong things going on. |
| 19:56.21 | Computerpunk | xd |
| 19:56.33 | amro | did you just go, "I have a sprained finger. Oh, also a broken rib. Hey... I have a sprained finger AND a broken rib!!!" |
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| 19:56.53 | Computerpunk | something like that |
| 19:56.53 | Computerpunk | XD |
| 19:57.30 | Lunessa | Perhaps you should lay off the drugs and the dangerous physical activities? |
| 19:57.36 | amro | ^ |
| 19:57.49 | Dagmar | What the hell kind of advice is that? |
| 19:58.02 | Lunessa | Sarcastic. I'm drunk |
| 19:58.06 | Dagmar | Ah okay |
| 19:58.07 | Dagmar | Hehe |
| 19:58.23 | Dagmar | I was about to say you might as well ask him to just swear off all forms of fun |
| 19:58.40 | Lunessa | I didn't tell him to give up sex. |
| 19:58.41 | amro | you have a very twisted definition of fun |
| 19:59.03 | amro | Lunessa: don't probe, we may get a detailed description of physically dangerous sex |
| 19:59.07 | Cide | yeah... who thinks sex is fun? |
| 19:59.09 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 19:59.18 | Dagmar | amro: You have no idea. I almost crashed a Karaoke Night on Friday |
| 19:59.37 | Lunessa | ... amro that sounds like a challenge. |
| 19:59.38 | Dagmar | You know the song with the refrain... "Girl... You'll be a woman, soon"? |
| 19:59.47 | Lunessa | But that could be the vodka speaking |
| 20:00.04 | Dagmar | Yeah, inspiration struck and I thought to myself how much cooler the song would be if you replaced "woman" with "victim" |
| 20:00.34 | Dagmar | Like, seconds later the entire set of new lyrics just roll right out of my brain |
| 20:01.06 | amro | were you trying to land yourself an entry in the sex offender database? |
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| 20:01.12 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 20:01.17 | amro | apparently it doesn't take much |
| 20:01.19 | amro | or any evidence |
| 20:01.22 | Dagmar | I just don't like rednecks and they were all downstairs having a good time |
| 20:01.36 | Lunessa | like the guy who might get 10 years for simpsons porn? |
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| 20:01.43 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5666591/heres-how-microsoft-spends-nearly-a-billion-dollars |
| 20:01.48 | jnwhiteh | I hadn't realized how much I missed PerfectRaid =) |
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| 20:01.55 | Dagmar | I still don't see how that serves anyone's interests to throw him in jail |
| 20:02.09 | amro | except his future cellmates |
| 20:02.10 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 20:02.10 | purl | badum-TISH! |
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| 20:02.42 | MuNk | hey its not possible to use protected apis only to hook them to read of info passed to me right? |
| 20:02.57 | Lunessa | hooksecure |
| 20:03.12 | Dagmar | Kraps: They're hoping that with enough press blizting, people will forget about how much Windows Mobile 6.x sucks the festering cock of a mutant cannibale goat |
| 20:03.18 | Dagmar | er cannibal |
| 20:03.30 | amro | wow |
| 20:03.32 | amro | strong imagery |
| 20:03.32 | Dagmar | ...and how Microsoft never actually patched anything on it, pretty much |
| 20:03.46 | amro | you could just say it failed harder than windows vista |
| 20:03.59 | Dagmar | amro: It doesn't take very long-term ownership of a Palm 800w to make it clear that Microsoft has not a clue about phones |
| 20:04.01 | MuNk | Lunessa, i thought hooksecurefunc just hooked it but didnt let you really use it |
| 20:04.13 | Lunessa | You can't use it. |
| 20:04.14 | amro | Dagmar: I barely have a phone and I know that |
| 20:04.15 | Cide | how is the successor of an unsuccessful product deemed to be unsuccessful? |
| 20:04.18 | Lunessa | You post hook and read. |
| 20:04.27 | amro | Cide: when it succeeds |
| 20:04.40 | amro | which, in a sense, it will do regardless. |
| 20:04.44 | MuNk | thought as much, oh well CancelUnitBuff not useable now :( |
| 20:04.49 | Dagmar | Cide: When the manufacturer goes through three different full release cycles and shows no signs of having learned a damn thing from their past mistakes |
| 20:04.52 | Cide | i.e. the fact that windows phone 6 sucked doesn't mean that \1 7 will |
| 20:05.02 | Lunessa | MuNk - yup. Deliberately. |
| 20:05.11 | amro | Cide: sure, but there's been a pattern since windows 3.1 |
| 20:05.23 | Cide | are you talking about windows and not windows phone now? |
| 20:05.28 | Cide | because windows 7 is an excellent os |
| 20:05.30 | Dagmar | Cide: No, it means they've got a track record (two major releases now) for releasing steaming piles of shit |
| 20:05.39 | Cide | yes |
| 20:05.48 | MuNk | an idea why? cause i cant see that it caused any harm =/ |
| 20:05.56 | amro | Cide: that would imply we can expect a decent phone release in 15 years |
| 20:06.04 | Cide | no? |
| 20:06.35 | olafski | there are several pretty good OS's from microsoft since windows 3.1 imo =) |
| 20:06.36 | amro | yes? |
| 20:06.52 | amro | generally, when someone fails pretty damn hard, it's not considered unreasonable to expect them to fail |
| 20:07.11 | Cide | not unreasonable but not definitive |
| 20:07.30 | amro | it's an expectation |
| 20:07.54 | Cide | it's a bit unreasonable when you take into account the pretty major overhaul they did between 6.x and 7 |
| 20:08.07 | Cide | so extrapolation is pretty dangerous |
| 20:08.18 | amro | windows vista was a pretty major overhaul |
| 20:08.20 | nevcairiel | (7 is 6.1, btw) |
| 20:08.23 | amro | worked out pretty well |
| 20:08.25 | Dagmar | ...and a major fuckup |
| 20:08.31 | Cide | windows vista is fine |
| 20:08.34 | Dagmar | lol |
| 20:08.38 | Cide | it lacked a few usability features |
| 20:08.38 | Computerpunk | fine? |
| 20:08.39 | olafski | I still don't see what people hate about vista so much |
| 20:08.39 | Computerpunk | l2p |
| 20:08.40 | amro | yeah, using double the memory for windows is fine |
| 20:08.54 | Kraps | Valve's Doug Lombardi tells us "Untrue. We've never actually met with Mr. Pachter." --- DAMMIT |
| 20:08.55 | Lunessa | I don't have much hope for Windows 7 phone, but then until mobile processors get faster and more battery-friendly, I don't think we're going to see anything super exciting in the moblie department for another couple of years. |
| 20:09.08 | Cide | regardless |
| 20:09.16 | Cide | windows 7 is a much improved version of vista |
| 20:09.44 | Kraps | RE: VALVE TRADE-INS |
| 20:09.47 | Kraps | caps |
| 20:10.04 | durcyn | Kraps: buh, trade-ins? |
| 20:10.06 | amro | Cide: yeah, it is. but I'm not expecting that on their phone line |
| 20:10.26 | Kraps | durcyn: see above |
| 20:10.27 | Cide | I'm very content with my android phone so I don't care about windows phone 7 |
| 20:10.29 | nevcairiel | I've only heard good things about the new phone os |
| 20:10.37 | Cide | I just think extrapolation in this case is pretty risky |
| 20:10.42 | Cide | "wait and see" is a sounder attitude |
| 20:10.53 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: That's because they've only been letting people who have lifetime subs to the Microsoft Kool-Aid Club have any access to it |
| 20:11.01 | amro | Cide: what do you think I'm doing? |
| 20:11.10 | amro | it's not like saying it's going to suck now prevents me from using it if I'm wrong |
| 20:11.19 | Dagmar | Cide: Ther'es also that little "Kin" thing they did |
| 20:11.23 | Cide | by "wait and see" I mean "withholding judgement" |
| 20:11.31 | Lunessa | It looks slick, but it doesn't offer me anything I have to have. And since I tend to adopt phone tech at about 2 generations behind the bleeding edge... |
| 20:11.34 | Dagmar | That took how long to fail? Two months was it? |
| 20:11.37 | olafski | lunessa: truth :P and maybe some nuclear powered phone batteries to match :) |
| 20:11.38 | amro | Cide: but then I don't get to say "I told you so" if I'm right |
| 20:11.47 | Cide | Dagmar: every company has failed products |
| 20:11.52 | Cide | would you prefer to see no innovation? |
| 20:11.53 | amro | also, I haven't given any judgment |
| 20:11.55 | amro | just my expectation |
| 20:12.00 | Dagmar | cide: This company has a long streak of fails in that market |
| 20:12.04 | Lunessa | Google Wave anyone? |
| 20:12.10 | Cide | so it should just drop the market? |
| 20:12.11 | olafski | heh |
| 20:12.15 | durcyn | i wouldn't call WP7 innovation, it looks like a shittier version of iphone os 1.0 |
| 20:12.16 | amro | wave is good |
| 20:12.17 | olafski | I was wondering about google wave yesterday |
| 20:12.19 | olafski | wondering where it went |
| 20:12.22 | amro | google fails for improper marketing |
| 20:12.35 | Dagmar | I didn't see any notes in the trade rags about them buying a company with a clue to make WM7, so odds are very high it'll be the same clueless people writing the same crap code, and allowing the same crap policies |
| 20:12.47 | Dagmar | ...which will result in another piece of shit phone |
| 20:12.58 | Cide | I'm sure the majority of the programmers at microsoft are more accomplished than you |
| 20:13.11 | Dagmar | I really fuckin' doubt that |
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| 20:13.19 | nevcairiel | the previous windows mobile phones targetted a completly different market, you really can't compare them to anything |
| 20:13.20 | nicoli_s | i liked what i have seen of WP7 |
| 20:13.28 | nevcairiel | Cide: don't waste time arguing with the D, its pointless |
| 20:13.29 | nicoli_s | and ive had one in my hand |
| 20:13.33 | Cide | nevcairiel: I know |
| 20:13.43 | Cide | only reason I'm doing it is because my irc client doesn't have persistent ignores |
| 20:13.51 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:13.59 | amro | no, you're doing it cause you're too lazy to finish sc2p |
| 20:14.01 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: They were targeting people who don't usually use a cell phone? |
| 20:14.02 | amro | get back to work |
| 20:14.05 | amro | ~lart Cide |
| 20:14.05 | purl | executes killall -KILL Cide |
| 20:14.11 | Cide | why do you care? :P |
| 20:14.44 | amro | because most websites don't like my .sc2replays |
| 20:14.51 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 20:14.56 | nicoli_s | does sc2replayed not accept them? |
| 20:15.01 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with windows mobile 6.5? Its not full of innovation and swooosh, but its a solid business phone |
| 20:15.02 | nicoli_s | <- sc2r dev |
| 20:15.04 | Cide | maybe they don't approve of your esoteric strategies |
| 20:15.43 | amro | nicoli_s: parse error |
| 20:15.53 | nicoli_s | amro:can you email it to nsinkule@curse.com |
| 20:15.57 | nicoli_s | ill fix it |
| 20:16.08 | amro | will do when I reboot,it's on the other partition |
| 20:16.22 | amro | Cide: I killed 15 drones with 3 banelings |
| 20:16.32 | amro | in one splash |
| 20:16.39 | nicoli_s | nicde |
| 20:16.39 | Sixen | lol |
| 20:16.51 | Cide | well done |
| 20:17.26 | amro | I just love the centrifugal hooks animation + splash + erlelrlrelhlerhelhre |
| 20:18.21 | Lunessa | Ah shit, whiskey is empty, and I just killed the last of the vodka - and I'm too drunk to go get more. FUCK |
| 20:18.46 | nicoli_s | Lunessa:shoulodnt get drunk at 3 pm |
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| 20:18.58 | Lunessa | Vacation bitches |
| 20:19.11 | amro | those are the best kind of bitches I hear |
| 20:20.20 | Lunessa | I sure hope the bug reports I'm sending make sense. |
| 20:20.49 | Cide | I sure hope the bug reports you're sending aren't to me. |
| 20:21.00 | Cide | aren't sent to me* |
| 20:21.32 | nicoli_s | From Lunessa:Shit dont wrok! |
| 20:21.43 | Lunessa | No, I just bitch to you in IRC. Blizzard is getting these. |
| 20:24.40 | amro | omg wtf tabards |
| 20:24.47 | amro | Lunessa: ^don't forget that |
| 20:26.15 | Lunessa | Nah, I'm all... "How come none of these vendors have booze? BITCHES!" |
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| 20:27.58 | Ackis | !api penis |
| 20:27.58 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'penis'. |
| 20:28.03 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
| 20:28.12 | Ackis | I'm so mature |
| 20:28.28 | nicoli_s | Ackis:i havent seen you on halo recently, give up? |
| 20:29.12 | Ackis | nicoli_s: been pretending to be black and playing basketball |
| 20:31.01 | Ackis | I won't let myself have fun until I've got all of the achievements except online and myplayer done in nba 2k11 |
| 20:32.06 | amro | is there an achievement for getting shot over a game? |
| 20:32.23 | Ackis | "Get your shoes stolen" 10G |
| 20:32.32 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 20:32.37 | Fisker | Fallout: New Vegas? |
| 20:32.45 | Ackis | meh |
| 20:32.47 | Fisker | Fallout: New Vegas? |
| 20:32.54 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 20:32.59 | Fisker | Fallout: New Vegas? |
| 20:33.00 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+qq *!*@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk *!n_a@*] by EDI |
| 20:33.12 | Adys | Aujourd'hui, en pleine conférence, j'ai appelé ma patronne Calorie. Elle s'appelle en fait Coralie, et elle est obèse. VDM |
| 20:33.25 | nicoli_s | yay i can actually read some of that |
| 20:33.30 | Thaoky | Adys: lol :) |
| 20:33.31 | Arrowmaster | english mother fucker, do you speak it? |
| 20:33.43 | Teomyr | rofl |
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| 20:33.56 | nicoli_s | today, at the conference, i have named my patron calrie, she is named that because she is fat? |
| 20:34.06 | Adys | Teomyr: don't you have a quote backlog to take care of? :P |
| 20:34.08 | amro | wow |
| 20:34.17 | amro | that sounded like a translationparty result |
| 20:34.20 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 20:34.20 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 20:34.24 | Kraps | anyone made a line-graph to measure Lunessas swear-per-minute difference when sober vs drunk? |
| 20:34.42 | amro | it's -> "I called my boss Calorie. Her name is Coralie, and she is obese." |
| 20:34.44 | Adys | nicoli_s: he called his (fat) coworker "calorie" instead of "coralie" |
| 20:35.04 | Adys | by "mistake" |
| 20:35.52 | Cide | it's expressed as e^(abs(bac%-0.3)) Kraps |
| 20:35.54 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 20:35.57 | nicoli_s | so i was close |
| 20:35.58 | Adys | Aujourd'hui, je suis dans l'ascenseur de mon immeuble. Au niveau -1 monte un homme très baraqué et un peu louche avec un bouledogue. Un peu paniquée, je m'exécute quand il me dit sèchement : "Assieds-toi." Il parlait à son chien et a eu une crise de fou rire pendant dix étages. VDM |
| 20:36.00 | Cide | err |
| 20:36.00 | Adys | ahahahahaha |
| 20:36.02 | Lunessa | LOL BAC |
| 20:36.05 | Cide | e^-(abs(bac%-0.3)) |
| 20:36.14 | nicoli_s | today...... |
| 20:36.17 | nicoli_s | thats all i got |
| 20:36.18 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I made a kissing emote to Michael earlier today |
| 20:37.23 | nicoli_s | lol howd he react to that |
| 20:37.32 | Cide | Kraps: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=e^(-abs(x-0.3)),+x+from+0+to+1 |
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| 20:38.24 | Ackis | nicoli_s: didn't say much lol It was a typo :P |
| 20:38.30 | Cide | that's swearing frequency |
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| 20:42.25 | Kraps | http://www.bash.org/?142934 |
| 20:43.14 | Mirrormn | Kraps: Only a dirty european would think that was funny |
| 20:43.37 | Kraps | or someone who isnt an idiot |
| 20:43.44 | amro | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes > bash.org |
| 20:44.19 | zenzelezz | how cute... the Mythbusters trying to dress proper for the president: http://plixi.com/p/51468568 |
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| 20:45.01 | Cairenn | Kraps: rofl |
| 20:45.35 | zenzelezz | <Mirrormn> Kraps: Only a dirty european would think that was funny |
| 20:45.36 | zenzelezz | <Cairenn> Kraps: rofl |
| 20:45.42 | zenzelezz | Cairenn's a dirty European? |
| 20:45.52 | Cairenn | nope, Cairenn's a dirty Canadian |
| 20:46.08 | Mirrormn | Canadians are the europeans of north america |
| 20:46.18 | zenzelezz | in other words, they're the accepted Americans |
| 20:46.31 | nicoli_s | ahhh bash |
| 20:46.32 | Cairenn | Yeah, we have culture, and it isn't just growing in the bottom of our refrigerators, either |
| 20:46.42 | zenzelezz | lurves Cairenn |
| 20:47.09 | nicoli_s | id be canadian if i could do it from home |
| 20:47.27 | Ackis | I typoed implementation "implantation" in a document :( |
| 20:47.41 | Pneumatus | jnwhiteh: is there any chance clique will get full profile copying/renaming capabilities? |
| 20:47.43 | zenzelezz | ouch |
| 20:47.48 | Ackis | Cairenn: you're not a dirty Canadian, you're a REALLY dirty Canadian! :D |
| 20:48.01 | Cairenn | Ackis: only in your dreams baby |
| 20:48.05 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:48.08 | Dagmar | So... what you're saying is that he's a French-Canadian. |
| 20:48.41 | mikma | zenzelezz: goooo jamie! |
| 20:48.43 | amro | ~lart Teomyr |
| 20:48.43 | purl | declares Teomyr a moron |
| 20:48.43 | *** part/#wowuidev Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-138-152.nat.asu.edu) |
| 20:48.50 | amro | there's a billion quotes, get to it |
| 20:48.56 | zenzelezz | mikma: yeah, Jamie's just awesome |
| 20:49.52 | Teomyr | amro: yeah, need to collect them first |
| 20:50.12 | Teomyr | amro: you and adys always seem to send them at inhuman times, like 3AM or something |
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| 20:50.20 | Teomyr | amro: which means they go to my phone |
| 20:50.30 | Adys | l2check logs. |
| 20:50.33 | amro | Teomyr: 3am is when the fun starts |
| 20:50.38 | Adys | yeah agreed |
| 20:50.43 | Adys | they're 3am quotes for a reason |
| 20:50.57 | Adys | also teomyr |
| 20:51.04 | Adys | werent you supposed to use the neat django-ircquotes thing!. |
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| 20:52.31 | Kraps | what network are the bash stuff from? |
| 20:52.47 | zenzelezz | isn't bash all user-submitted? |
| 20:52.50 | Ackis | we need something that lets me do a $addquote 5 to add the last 5 lines to the db or something |
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| 20:53.38 | nicoli_s | that would be sweet |
| 20:54.22 | Ackis | go forth and write it |
| 20:54.34 | jnwhiteh | huh my mouse DEFINITELy just got stuck |
| 20:54.42 | jnwhiteh | it gto stuck in drag mode |
| 20:54.44 | jnwhiteh | dunno how |
| 20:54.53 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: it has them, use slash commands |
| 20:54.54 | haste | it happens |
| 20:55.01 | haste | once in a blue moon |
| 20:55.07 | haste | I havne't seen it in aeons now tho' :D |
| 20:55.17 | mikma | jnwhiteh: is tnhis with pr? |
| 20:55.23 | Pneumatus | jnwhiteh: any intel on what the slash commands might be, /clique just opens the binding windows |
| 20:56.11 | zenzelezz | my mouse sometimes get stuck in such a mode in WoW if certain key(press) events happen or something |
| 20:56.39 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i have had pr stuvk with cursor every now and then |
| 20:56.57 | mikma | jnwhiteh: most likely when i start to drag it and i enter combat |
| 20:57.51 | jnwhiteh | it wasn't stuck on cursor |
| 20:57.54 | jnwhiteh | my cursor was stuck on world |
| 20:58.01 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: /run Clique.db:SetProfile(foo) |
| 20:58.03 | jnwhiteh | CopyProfile |
| 20:58.05 | jnwhiteh | etc. |
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| 20:58.18 | MuNk | only way to call cancelunitbuff now is via a securetemplate aint it? as its protected |
| 20:58.23 | Pneumatus | oh right, actually just manipulate the acedb directly |
| 20:59.09 | A-KO | I like being asked to do the impossible at work :D |
| 20:59.10 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:59.19 | Hirsute | MuNk: I believe so. |
| 20:59.21 | zenzelezz | A-KO: I don't... it gets old |
| 20:59.25 | A-KO | lol zenzelezz |
| 20:59.29 | Kraps | the hell is horse porn? |
| 20:59.29 | A-KO | I forgot the /s :P |
| 20:59.39 | mikma | kraps: Mr.Hands |
| 20:59.49 | Kraps | eh? |
| 20:59.52 | Dagmar | I'm guessing that's why I'm hearing people complain they can no longer right-click buffs away |
| 20:59.57 | A-KO | zenzelezz: Our project just got a rather large amount more complicated today. With the idea that the very specific problem we're trying to attack hasn't been solved :P |
| 21:00.08 | mikma | !g mr.hands |
| 21:00.09 | batbot | mikma: 2 GUYS 1 HORSE... AKA Mr Hands | 2guys1horse | Death by horse cock <http://2guys1horse.com/> |
| 21:00.14 | MuNk | Dagmar, yep in short |
| 21:00.15 | A-KO | haha |
| 21:00.24 | Pneumatus | jnwhiteh: another question, whats the difference between adding say PlayerFrame to the frame blacklist, vs unticking registration to Player frame in the Blizz frame options? |
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| 21:01.50 | Kraps | mikma: why does my filter say its pornography |
| 21:02.02 | Kraps | j/k |
| 21:02.07 | Dagmar | Kraps: o.O |
| 21:02.24 | Dagmar | You should absolutely check it out to be sure |
| 21:02.41 | mikma | the video is amazing |
| 21:02.50 | Lunessa | It's ok. He's now qualified to be judge, 'cause he can't define pornography, but he know's when he's watching it. |
| 21:02.54 | mikma | and the idea that the man died couple of hours later |
| 21:03.41 | nicoli_s | poor man |
| 21:03.55 | Dagmar | s/died/faked his own death to prevent interviews/ |
| 21:04.07 | mikma | he died |
| 21:04.17 | Dagmar | Suuure he did |
| 21:04.58 | nicoli_s | mikma knows he was there |
| 21:05.09 | mikma | go and wikipedia it |
| 21:05.24 | mikma | nicoli_s: who do you think mr.hands is |
| 21:05.47 | Stanzilla | your uncle |
| 21:06.31 | Dagmar | "a big fuckin' moron" |
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| 21:08.05 | Computerpunk | [03:13:59] <Trela> So glad I never bought Ubisoft. |
| 21:08.06 | Computerpunk | [03:14:17] <Adys> Yeah |
| 21:08.06 | Computerpunk | [03:14:21] <Adys> gotta spend those billions carefully |
| 21:08.07 | Computerpunk | this one's good |
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| 21:08.17 | Adys | hehe |
| 21:08.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Krapsy (~opera@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:09.18 | Kraps | huh freenode north america has no servers |
| 21:09.43 | Computerpunk | adys n1 troll @wowuidev |
| 21:09.46 | Computerpunk | #* |
| 21:10.02 | Adys | wut |
| 21:10.05 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: not much, only you can de-blacklist a frame without reloading. |
| 21:10.07 | Lunessa | Not even close. |
| 21:10.14 | durcyn | as long as fisker lives, adys is not top troll |
| 21:10.22 | durcyn | solution: permaban fisker |
| 21:10.26 | Adys | I'm not a troll |
| 21:11.11 | Kraps | denial is unhealthy Adys |
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| 21:12.36 | Krapsy | '< |
| 21:14.42 | amro | -s+p imo |
| 21:14.45 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSvZPZXwJU |
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| 21:16.55 | Kraps | operas chat thing is pretty fail |
| 21:18.26 | amro | was that netsplit sorted in descending order |
| 21:18.28 | amro | omg |
| 21:18.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:18.45 | amro | yes |
| 21:18.47 | amro | in size |
| 21:19.01 | amro | which is even more impressive |
| 21:19.49 | Flowy | http://paste.wowace.com/2638/ |
| 21:19.51 | Flowy | what is bad? |
| 21:20.25 | amro | the caps convention |
| 21:20.39 | Flowy | it looks like it has problem with adding child |
| 21:20.57 | Humbedooh | you're using a bad anchor point |
| 21:21.07 | Humbedooh | ...but we can't see that from the code |
| 21:21.12 | Flowy | what is good anchor point? |
| 21:21.36 | Humbedooh | a good anchor point is one that's not inside the frame you're trying to anchor :p |
| 21:21.38 | Flowy | dont anchor it anywhere |
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| 21:22.25 | Humbedooh | seems to be rooted in that uhm.. WHAceGUI thing |
| 21:22.28 | Humbedooh | whatever that is |
| 21:22.58 | Humbedooh | or the LabelUpdate thing |
| 21:23.08 | Adys | krka: are you thinking what I'm thinking? |
| 21:23.09 | krka | Wuh, I think so, Adys, but wouldn't anything lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? |
| 21:23.13 | Humbedooh | just look for a SetPoint :\ |
| 21:23.49 | Flowy | Humbedooh i dont have here any SetPoint or anchor |
| 21:24.00 | Humbedooh | well the error says you do |
| 21:24.32 | Flowy | in complex return error its line with adding child |
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| 21:25.40 | Flowy | Humbedooh it works when it was without loops |
| 21:25.46 | Flowy | local WHclassILPaladin = WHAceGUI:Create("InteractiveLabel") |
| 21:25.46 | Flowy | ACEWH:CreateILabel(WHclassILPaladin, "Paladin", WHclassScrollFrame) |
| 21:26.03 | Flowy | but its 10x same line ... |
| 21:26.29 | Flowy | I created a local table that contains table in where the Labels are |
| 21:26.38 | Humbedooh | maybe you should consider not calling all the frames by the same name? ;> |
| 21:26.42 | Ackis | Today, it was my dad's birthday. As a joke, I got him one of those big erasers that say, "FOR BIG MISTAKES." He opened it, and tried to erase me with it then said, "It doesn't work." Handed it back to me and left. FML |
| 21:26.49 | Cide | maybe you should not make a local inside a for loop |
| 21:26.55 | Cide | and maybe you should learn how to code |
| 21:27.10 | Adys | Teomyr: your script is linebreaking on quote 137 |
| 21:27.20 | Hirsute | Oh. :( |
| 21:27.53 | DWSR | Ackis: lol |
| 21:27.56 | DWSR | That you? |
| 21:28.05 | Cide | Flowy: www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:28.06 | Ackis | no |
| 21:28.16 | Ackis | I just linked it because it's lulz |
| 21:28.18 | Flowy | Cide Im not creating local ... its created before for |
| 21:28.28 | Cide | sure you are |
| 21:28.36 | Flowy | just adding there |
| 21:28.43 | Cide | even if that was true then you should learn how to program since I don't doubt your error is trivial |
| 21:29.49 | haste | damn paypal seems to be having issues today |
| 21:31.18 | Dagmar | Damn them picking on indie developers! |
| 21:31.20 | Dagmar | Oh wait |
| 21:32.00 | kd3|netbook | today? |
| 21:32.43 | jnwhiteh | yay onto plagueworks =) |
| 21:32.44 | haste | it hasn't prevented me from spending money earlier :P |
| 21:32.56 | jnwhiteh | anything I need to know about? |
| 21:33.01 | amro | jnwhiteh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpuv7VPb2rA |
| 21:33.09 | jnwhiteh | can't see at the moment |
| 21:33.11 | jnwhiteh | raiding and enjoying it =) |
| 21:33.43 | amro | you just need to hear it |
| 21:33.46 | amro | it's 20 sec |
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| 21:36.23 | DWSR | amro: rofl |
| 21:36.57 | DWSR | PLAYGU! |
| 21:38.19 | DWSR | Korea: The only place where you can get laid for being a professional gamer. |
| 21:38.55 | Arrowmaster | i doubt that |
| 21:39.09 | industrial | I dont |
| 21:39.13 | industrial | fucking SNSD |
| 21:39.15 | industrial | (literally.) |
| 21:39.22 | industrial | haste: ^ |
| 21:39.23 | industrial | >_. |
| 21:39.25 | industrial | >_>* |
| 21:39.33 | industrial | envious |
| 21:40.02 | haste | D: |
| 21:40.51 | Flowy | can anyone help me with ScrollFrame with AceGUI? |
| 21:41.36 | Flowy | its there but I dont see it :/ |
| 21:41.46 | Amarande | *sweet*. the patch made the Helm of Narv not suck. |
| 21:41.50 | amro | have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 21:41.56 | Amarande | now I can use it on my hunter at 54 instead of putting it on AH over and over again to never sell. |
| 21:42.08 | Flowy | amro yes about 100 times |
| 21:42.15 | DWSR | Anyone here using oUF? |
| 21:42.24 | amro | you're only supposed to do it once |
| 21:42.34 | Flowy | too late ... |
| 21:42.50 | A-KO | wow |
| 21:42.51 | A-KO | impressive |
| 21:42.56 | A-KO | Comcast is migrating people to dnssec |
| 21:43.00 | A-KO | holy shit |
| 21:43.01 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:43.04 | A-KO | I feel sorry for opendns' business :P |
| 21:43.18 | Thunder_Child | anyone know what this orange path tracing crap on my screen is? |
| 21:43.32 | Humbedooh | gatherer? |
| 21:43.38 | Thunder_Child | thanks |
| 21:43.52 | Flowy | its orange that you ate? |
| 21:43.52 | Galvin | what is dnssec? |
| 21:44.03 | Thunder_Child | quit right Humbedooh, thanks |
| 21:44.05 | kd3|netbook | a pain in the ass |
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| 21:44.35 | kd3|netbook | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSSEC |
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| 21:44.45 | DJJeff | Dear Blizzard, headless horseman crashes my WoW without running any addons please fix it |
| 21:44.55 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 21:44.56 | kd3|netbook | don't click on the pumpkin |
| 21:45.08 | Dagmar | That makes the event a little hard to do |
| 21:45.12 | Thunder_Child | Dear DJJeff, do not to headless horseman then. |
| 21:45.14 | penborn | theres been some luck using a tooltip addon |
| 21:45.17 | Dagmar | There *is* apparently some problem there tho |
| 21:45.20 | kd3|netbook | someone else needs to click the pumpkin then |
| 21:45.22 | kd3|netbook | yes, yes there is |
| 21:45.30 | kd3|netbook | ran into it a few nights ago dropping snackwells |
| 21:45.40 | Dagmar | Ex-gf and Gl's wife both crashed disconnected as the fight started, more than once |
| 21:46.05 | penborn | its a known issue, i installed tiptac today and havent locked up wow once with a cogwheel |
| 21:49.06 | alestane | I got pulled in and WoW locked up within a few seconds. I had to force-quit it, log back in and they'd killed it. Fortunately I still got my loot bag. |
| 21:50.07 | DJJeff | I like the new ARCANE MAGE proc UI pretty bad ass |
| 21:50.20 | alestane | The proc UI is nice. |
| 21:50.33 | DJJeff | for arcane missles / barage |
| 21:50.41 | alestane | Which means, of course, that turning it off is probably the single most commonly made request on the UI forum. |
| 21:50.50 | DJJeff | yup |
| 21:50.54 | Seerah | the proc UI? |
| 21:50.58 | DJJeff | cause of MAGE NUGGETS ;-) |
| 21:51.26 | alestane | Have you seen what happens when something like clearcasting goes off now, Seerah? |
| 21:51.30 | Seerah | they don't see the option in Interface Options? Or did I sit down in the middle of some conversation again? :) |
| 21:51.48 | Seerah | I actually haven't seen one for CC, but for AM, yes |
| 21:52.00 | DJJeff | whats CC? |
| 21:52.04 | Seerah | clearcasting |
| 21:52.07 | DJJeff | ah |
| 21:52.40 | xyphoid | i was silly enough to talent into sudden death and now my level 70 warrior gets procs to cast Colossus Smash now! |
| 21:52.56 | amro | the hackish auras you get to make it work are blergh |
| 21:53.18 | xyphoid | so it has some weird cases but i do like the button highlighting |
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| 21:59.40 | Shirik | Cide |
| 21:59.44 | Shirik | want to see how evil the english language is? |
| 22:00.09 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:00.16 | Shirik | here's what one of the other teams came up with. We need to turn something generic (some set of information) into an english sentence. |
| 22:00.18 | Xinhuan | a blue stickied a workaround for the cogwheel hang |
| 22:00.41 | Xinhuan | the workaround is merely a macro that sets GameTooltip to hide itself in the OnShow |
| 22:00.49 | Xinhuan | and apparently, it works |
| 22:01.09 | Dewin | Wouldn't that effectively permanently disable the tooltip? |
| 22:01.09 | Shirik | Test case: Produces the result "You should talk to an advisor if you want to change majors." |
| 22:01.11 | Shirik | The input: http://wowi.pastey.net/141807 |
| 22:01.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:01.17 | Xinhuan | that is the whole point |
| 22:01.21 | Xinhuan | to disable tooltips |
| 22:01.39 | kd3|netbook | Shirik, wtf |
| 22:01.40 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27300876552&sid=1 |
| 22:01.52 | Shirik | kd3|netbook: Refresh if it doesn't appear to be tabulated properly |
| 22:01.55 | Shirik | I just redid it |
| 22:02.18 | Shirik | also that was my response too |
| 22:02.23 | nicoli_s | shirik:is that not what it should say? |
| 22:02.25 | Xinhuan | and of course, the OnShow :Show() is pretty stupid ;p |
| 22:02.35 | Xinhuan | since it doesn't quite work that way |
| 22:02.36 | Shirik | That input should produce "You should talk to an advisor if you want to change majors" |
| 22:02.39 | Shirik | nicoli_s |
| 22:02.46 | Shirik | it works great |
| 22:02.52 | Shirik | the input is also something to make your head explode |
| 22:03.01 | nicoli_s | oh yeah, was confused |
| 22:03.25 | kd3|netbook | the input's starting to make sense now that I'm seeing about it |
| 22:03.31 | kd3|netbook | but how does that input get generated? |
| 22:03.33 | kd3|netbook | by hand? |
| 22:03.41 | Shirik | well |
| 22:03.42 | kd3|netbook | s/seeing about it/thinking about it/ |
| 22:03.44 | Shirik | for now, yes |
| 22:04.01 | amro | Shirik: parsing english is like parsing C++ |
| 22:04.09 | Shirik | There's supposed to be some magical box one team is working on that creates that stuff |
| 22:04.19 | Shirik | I don't think they can do it but they think they can |
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| 22:08.47 | Flowy | when I create anything in AceGUI into variable T how to index it? (ie when using it as relativePoint) |
| 22:09.55 | alestane | This post seems sort of asinine. I'm trying to decide if responding is worth it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 22:10.00 | alestane | NVM, that's the board. |
| 22:10.10 | alestane | This: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27303226708&sid=1 |
| 22:12.17 | Hirsute | alestane: I'd either ignore it, or respond with some obscure/esoteric reference to a book or movie quote about being anal retentive. |
| 22:12.56 | jnwhiteh | Well that was fun. |
| 22:13.17 | jnwhiteh | we stopped before PP, sadly |
| 22:17.22 | alestane | I think I missed whatever it was you were doing. |
| 22:20.04 | Kraps | alestane: i thought toc #s were required? |
| 22:22.21 | Krapsy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.54 | Krapsy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.37 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27291816595/word-of-warning-to-those-driving-to-blizzcon/ |
| 22:26.07 | Amarande | oh, fruck. |
| 22:26.17 | Amarande | did 4.0 make it no longer possible to click off buffs in things like pitbull? |
| 22:26.33 | alestane | At least until they're updated suitably. |
| 22:27.16 | Yssaril | Amarande: correct its a secure function now |
| 22:27.26 | foxlit | is pushing some 4.0.1 versions with a 3.3 toc tag |
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| 22:28.20 | Amarande | Yssaril: what idiocy possessed them to do that? |
| 22:28.30 | Amarande | or was there some bottish exploit that needed to be squashed at that expense? |
| 22:28.55 | Yssaril | Amarande: some automation bullshit i think |
| 22:28.58 | Amarande | you know, I'd probably make a terrible MMORPG designer for exactly that reason: I hardly ever actually try to abuse the game. |
| 22:29.07 | Amarande | therefore, I'd probably end up with a game everyone leaves in the first month due to abuse :| |
| 22:29.17 | kd3|netbook | it's not so much the actual abuse as it is thinking up ways to break the game |
| 22:29.24 | Dewin | Amarande: I try to break things in betas. |
| 22:29.26 | kd3|netbook | rather enjoys doing that during alpha/beta phases |
| 22:29.34 | Amarande | also, when I do design game stuff, like say NWN2 mods and such |
| 22:29.36 | Dewin | In live, I don't, but if I manage to break something I try to reproduce it exactly once before making the report |
| 22:29.53 | Amarande | I generally only look for "does this have any bugs that will get the game into a state where it cannot be continued?" type of errors |
| 22:29.53 | Dewin | (multiple times if the breakage isn't considered an exploit) |
| 22:30.05 | Amarande | and not so much "does this have any oversights that will allow the game to be made sillily easy by someone so inclined?" |
| 22:30.25 | Amarande | is curse down? |
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| 22:30.45 | Amarande | I'm getting Download Failed on both my updates |
| 22:30.46 | Yssaril | Amarande: nope works |
| 22:31.32 | Amarande | Great, now I get to disable addons, log, log back out, reenable addons and log back in. Dammit, Blizzard. Couldn't you have left things a LITTLE insecure? |
| 22:31.37 | Amarande | It's not like it would have killed WoW. |
| 22:32.01 | Amarande | Unless there's something in Cata where unrestricted automation of buff clickoffs is going to make a raid way too easy or something. heh |
| 22:32.20 | Amarande | Obviously, there was nothing in LK to produce a need for secure on that function, since we went all of LK without it being so. |
| 22:32.32 | Amarande | Therefore, the logical thought is that there's something upcoming in Cata where that functionality would be bad. |
| 22:33.09 | Dewin | Obviously there will be a raid that picks a random party member and gives them a buff that stacks over time and increases their damage... but they'll have to click it off before their damage output is so high they outthreat the tank. Or something. |
| 22:35.28 | Amarande | Heh. |
| 22:35.37 | Amarande | I do not get half of Blizzard's decisions to make shit secure. |
| 22:35.51 | Amarande | Especially when said stuff was unsecure for months or years without being any sort of apparent problem. |
| 22:36.08 | Amarande | So, "why do it now?" occurs to me. |
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| 22:37.35 | Amarande | Of course, I also have a tendency to frequently think that losing security is a better idea than losing functionality. :| At least unless the security issue is earth shakingly critical. |
| 22:37.36 | Kraps | its obviously activisions fault |
| 22:37.50 | Amarande | Kraps: heh. I forgot Blizzard was owned by Craptivision. :) |
| 22:37.50 | Fargos | is it possible to start speaking to a targeted NPC via API? (out of combat) |
| 22:38.25 | alestane | Not quite true. Blizzard and Activision are divisions of a common company now. |
| 22:38.31 | Hirsute | Fargos: I think so. |
| 22:38.46 | xyphoid | yeah i had a macro for talking to the auctioneer, let me find it |
| 22:38.52 | Fargos | well with which function? =) |
| 22:38.57 | Kraps | alestane: its obviously activisions fault |
| 22:39.09 | Kraps | obviously |
| 22:39.13 | Fargos | thx xyphoid |
| 22:40.18 | Hirsute | Hrmmm, maybe not. I'm not finding anything. |
| 22:40.33 | kd3|netbook | it's like /interact or something similar |
| 22:40.50 | kd3|netbook | is kinda distracted atm |
| 22:41.09 | Amarande | however, loss of functionality in exchange for non-critical security is a bad deal right? :) |
| 22:42.13 | Fargos | hm :/ |
| 22:43.02 | alestane | Depends on the importance of the functionality and the security. |
| 22:44.55 | alestane | The functionality that I can't preserve - the ability to click off buffs in a collection filtered by aura name - was due to two different design requirements affecting the same space; the need to restrict dismissing auras to a secure operation space, and the need to keep information about which specific buffs you do and don't have OUT of them same space. |
| 22:45.06 | alestane | that* same space. |
| 22:46.51 | nicoli_s | amro:dont forget that replay so i can fix the issue pls |
| 22:49.03 | DWSR | Anyone in here that created their own custom oUF layout? |
| 22:49.23 | DWSR | And can help me out with designing my own? I'm tweaking oUF_Classic, but I'm thinking that maybe it might be a little easier to start from scratch? |
| 22:50.04 | Amarande | DWSR: just give in and switch to pitbull ... ;) |
| 22:50.18 | DWSR | No. Then the terrorists win. |
| 22:50.36 | Amarande | And make sure you get the latest Pitbull. I didn't discover till TONIGHT that the version I had at patch day doesn't let you click off buffs. :| |
| 22:50.37 | Dagmar | ...and yer buffs become unremoveable |
| 22:50.39 | Computerpunk | Amarande, or UnderHood. |
| 22:50.39 | Computerpunk | :3 |
| 22:50.49 | Computerpunk | with a buff mod. |
| 22:50.49 | Computerpunk | ;o |
| 22:50.52 | Dagmar | Amarande: Wait, that got fixed? |
| 22:50.53 | Amarande | Dagmar: there was just a new curse update for pitbull |
| 22:51.06 | DWSR | Dagmar: It's just a code fix. |
| 22:51.07 | Dagmar | Ah okay cool. I didn't know it had happened already |
| 22:51.11 | MuNk | im not a fan of pitbull 4.0 =/ |
| 22:51.14 | Computerpunk | nite |
| 22:51.18 | MuNk | i liked the config method for 3.0 |
| 22:51.27 | DWSR | 4.0's is way nicer once you get used to it. |
| 22:51.30 | Dagmar | Munk: You're not raiding as hard as some of us are I guess |
| 22:51.32 | Amarande | looks like there's a "fixed problems canceling buffs" in the changelog |
| 22:51.42 | Dagmar | Amarande: Sweet |
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| 22:52.51 | DWSR | Still though, it's just not flexible enough. |
| 22:52.56 | DWSR | SUF was awesome. |
| 22:53.01 | DWSR | Now it's abandoned.. |
| 22:53.09 | Dagmar | Whaaaa? |
| 22:53.17 | Dagmar | Not flexible _enough_? |
| 22:53.28 | Dewin | DWSR: SUF is ressurected |
| 22:53.44 | DWSR | Dewin: By Shadowed? |
| 22:53.52 | Fargos | look for simple unit frames its SUF continued |
| 22:53.55 | DWSR | No. |
| 22:53.59 | Dewin | http://www.wowace.com/addons/shadowed-unit-frames/ |
| 22:54.04 | Dewin | Antiarc and Nev |
| 22:54.10 | Fargos | no but shadowed changed his mind and allowed others to take his code |
| 22:54.28 | Dagmar | ABout the only thing missing from PB4 is maybe the ability to have certain buffs be drawn larger than others |
| 22:54.35 | Shadowed | I never changed my mind |
| 22:54.36 | Dewin | Originally he had the caveat that you had to rename the addon, but apparently Nevcairiel and Antiarc convinced him otherwise ;) |
| 22:54.37 | DWSR | That I know, but I'm not trusting someone without a track record with SUF. |
| 22:54.43 | Dewin | Oh, hi Shadowed |
| 22:54.46 | Shadowed | I just didn't have any competent developers that I would let takeover the main project |
| 22:55.00 | Fargos | well my interpretation from the wowhead comments war that you didn't want anyone to take over |
| 22:55.03 | Fargos | sry |
| 22:55.29 | Fargos | wowinterface not wowhead |
| 22:55.41 | Hirsute | I haven't yet figured out what the "nameplate" bar in 4.0 is for. At least for me, it's class-colored bar with no text at all in it, and I haven't figured out how to add text to it, or remove text from any other bars. *shrug* |
| 22:55.52 | DWSR | Oh, did Blizzard add LHC to the default UI? |
| 22:56.00 | Hirsute | DWSR: Yes |
| 22:56.03 | Dewin | LHC? |
| 22:56.07 | alestane | Light's Hope Chapel? |
| 22:56.07 | DWSR | LibHealComm |
| 22:56.15 | Dewin | I was thinking Large Hadron Collider. |
| 22:56.21 | Dagmar | Hirsuite: You just create a new text label with that as it's parent |
| 22:56.25 | Dewin | which I'm sure is in Ulduar somewhere, Mimi's area probably. |
| 22:56.35 | Hirsute | I'm still fiddling with PB4, but if I continue to be as stuck as I am now, I'll probably switch back to SUF. |
| 22:56.40 | Dagmar | Hirsute: Not really a big deal once you get your head around the many pieces and parents thing |
| 22:56.42 | Hirsute | Dagmar: As in, editing the lua itself? |
| 22:56.42 | alestane | Shouldn't you be sleeping, Moonwitch? |
| 22:56.46 | Fargos | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=13494&so=&page=5#comments << 4th comment from the top |
| 22:57.00 | Dagmar | Hirsute: I've never needed to edit the lua |
| 22:57.02 | Moonwitch | alestane: Iḿ a bit sick at the moment |
| 22:57.24 | alestane | It's like, two in the morning or something. |
| 22:57.28 | Hirsute | Dagmar: I misunderstood what you were saying, then. I'll have to keep looking around when I get back in WoW later. |
| 22:57.52 | Dagmar | Hirsute: There's a degree to which the level of freedom PB4 gives can be really maddening at first |
| 22:58.09 | DWSR | Dagmar: Trust me, there are things that PB4 can't do which piss me off to no end. |
| 22:58.11 | Dagmar | Frankly, it makes it hard as f**k t find some stuff in a hurry at first |
| 22:58.12 | Mr_Rabies | is there a nice LDB based addon that eats the blizzard minimap icon stuff and turns it into a nice LDB menu? i want my minimap clean :x |
| 22:58.19 | Dewin | Heh. I used DiscordUnitFrames back in Classic. |
| 22:58.22 | Zhinjio | Mr_Rabies: Yssdro |
| 22:58.23 | Dagmar | DWSR: you mean like rounded corners. ;) |
| 22:58.28 | Zhinjio | Mr_Rabies: Yssdrop |
| 22:58.47 | DWSR | Dagmar: Can it do that now? |
| 22:59.21 | Hirsute | Dagmar: I believe you, it's just turning out to be difficult to know where to look to exercise all those freedoms. ;) |
| 22:59.22 | Dagmar | looks around. |
| 22:59.23 | Dagmar | Maybe. |
| 22:59.29 | Mr_Rabies | looking at Yssdrop it seems to just consolidate LDB stuff, not the blizzard minimap icons |
| 22:59.31 | Dagmar | Hirsute: Too right, that |
| 22:59.43 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: It does. |
| 22:59.49 | DWSR | You can try MinimapButtonFrame for now. |
| 22:59.57 | Dagmar | for me the option was either figure it the f**k out or keep going blind in complex fights. |
| 22:59.57 | DWSR | Not 100% what you're looking for, but it'll help, most likely. |
| 22:59.59 | Hirsute | That was one of the things I *really* liked about SUF, it had all the flexibility I needed, and was crazy easy to configure. |
| 23:00.08 | DWSR | ^ |
| 23:00.24 | Mr_Rabies | DWSR: i just want to clear off the minimap icons that blizzard uses and convert them into LDB buttons basically |
| 23:00.27 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 23:00.32 | Dagmar | JUST the s**t I care about appears on screen now, with the relative locations and scales needed |
| 23:00.33 | Mr_Rabies | calendar, mail, etc |
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| 23:01.15 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: A lot of us jumped to SexyMap to get rid of pox, and almost everything that has a map pock has an LDB plugin as well |
| 23:01.19 | Zhinjio | Mr_Rabies: I just switch them all to "off" or "onhover" using sexymap... |
| 23:01.25 | Mr_Rabies | i'd hate to get one for each button if there's something that just noms the minimap icons and turns them into something usable |
| 23:01.25 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 23:01.50 | Dagmar | I've got them all down in the lower right of my screen like a rip off of Window's "system tray" |
| 23:02.17 | Dagmar | I should probably ditch those icons, but at least they make for visual indicators that somethin' broke when it happens |
| 23:02.57 | Moonwitch | gonna lay down again |
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| 23:03.10 | Mr_Rabies | i use chinchilla right now but if sexymap supports making those into something not annoying and eating up the edge of my minimap frame i might use it instead |
| 23:03.29 | Dagmar | Sexymap lets you set some to never show, some to only show when you mouse over, some to show all the time |
| 23:03.30 | Amarande | I switched to BasicMinimap because SexyMap wasn't ready on patch day |
| 23:03.32 | Dagmar | works pretty good for that |
| 23:03.41 | Dewin | heh, RicoMiniMap still isn't updated :( |
| 23:03.45 | Amarande | for me, addons that weren't ready on patch day were ditched or replaced with alternatives |
| 23:03.58 | Dagmar | Survival of the fastest. ;) |
| 23:04.01 | Wobin | freebgrid doesn't jive with Clique too well, it seems =( |
| 23:04.01 | Amarande | since I had been expecting raid to be Wednesday this week as usual and thus HAD to have my UI up to date |
| 23:04.05 | A-KO | Crazy question, but does anyone here do ipad/iphone app-dev? |
| 23:04.09 | Amarande | Clique seems to be having issues lately |
| 23:04.18 | Amarande | we had an LK attempt go south this week because someone's clique screwed up IIRC |
| 23:04.20 | jnwhiteh | that's your opinion =) |
| 23:04.33 | Wobin | Amarande: I've had to revert to the blizzard party/raid frames |
| 23:04.41 | Dewin | The only problem I have with Clique is the fact that I have about a 50/50 chance of a WoW crash within 5 minutes of setting bindings |
| 23:04.44 | Mr_Rabies | i try to stick to the default unit frames |
| 23:04.44 | Dewin | and thus I have to redo them. |
| 23:04.46 | Wobin | because clicking on the freeb grid didn't register cliques |
| 23:04.52 | jnwhiteh | Dewin: O.o? |
| 23:04.58 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: then they're not registering correctly |
| 23:05.01 | Dewin | Coincidental, nothing to do with Clique. |
| 23:05.02 | jnwhiteh | or worse |
| 23:05.04 | Mr_Rabies | mostly because i've used non-default ones in the past and been screwed because i couldn't fix an addon with a gun to my head |
| 23:05.04 | Wobin | but the default frames don't have all the debuffs I'm used to |
| 23:05.05 | jnwhiteh | theyr'e overwriting the bindings |
| 23:05.19 | jnwhiteh | I used Praid all night tonight, and only had one issue. |
| 23:05.25 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: hm, so which is at fault in bind organisation? |
| 23:05.39 | Dewin | WoW gets random out of memory errors if I've been in Dalaran for a reason despite having plenty of available RAM |
| 23:05.42 | Wobin | (ie, do I bug you, or freebaser?) |
| 23:05.45 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/wruWq.jpg |
| 23:06.00 | Mr_Rabies | see how my nice clean minimap is getting eaten by blizzard's huge-ass minimap icons? i hates it :( |
| 23:06.45 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: I'd have to look at it |
| 23:06.50 | jnwhiteh | but I had no issues with oUF_Lily when I used it. |
| 23:07.03 | Wobin | is there any info I can offer that will assist? |
| 23:07.05 | jnwhiteh | downloading and looking |
| 23:07.07 | Mr_Rabies | <Dewin> WoW gets random out of memory errors if I've been in Dalaran for a reason despite having plenty of available RAM |
| 23:07.09 | Wobin | (granted, I can't do that til tonight =)) |
| 23:07.09 | jnwhiteh | so its freebgrid that's an issue |
| 23:07.13 | jnwhiteh | can you narrow the issue down? |
| 23:07.16 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Being that you're using a minimap addon already, try complaining to the dev who wrote it |
| 23:07.28 | Wobin | mouse clicks only register on the second or third attempt |
| 23:07.38 | Mr_Rabies | WoW's got something going on where if it uses >2GB of RAM, it'll crash |
| 23:07.42 | Dewin | Mr_Rabies: I don't think it's a true out of memory error, I think some sort of corruption is causing it to try to allocate like... 6 GB of RAM in one pull |
| 23:07.59 | Mr_Rabies | nah, it's some physical address limit dealio or something |
| 23:08.03 | Mr_Rabies | i got it when 3.3.5 came out |
| 23:08.09 | Dewin | yeah |
| 23:08.13 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: That makes _ABSOLUTELY_ no sense. |
| 23:08.15 | Dewin | It's something graphics related too |
| 23:08.17 | Mr_Rabies | they didn't bother to make it support more than 2gb of ram |
| 23:08.18 | jnwhiteh | you could check the attributes. |
| 23:08.25 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: I know =\ |
| 23:08.27 | Dewin | I'll have parts of dalaran start disappearing |
| 23:08.35 | Mr_Rabies | the first thing that'll happen is your UI will disappear generally |
| 23:08.35 | Dewin | or flying triangles |
| 23:08.38 | Wobin | but I was hammering the mouse pretty hard to get a reaction |
| 23:08.43 | Mr_Rabies | then graphical corruption |
| 23:08.45 | Mr_Rabies | then CRASH |
| 23:08.45 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: that's freaking bizarre |
| 23:08.48 | Dewin | eh, for me it's never my UI, it's graphics corruption |
| 23:08.48 | jnwhiteh | to be compeltelo honest |
| 23:08.55 | jnwhiteh | I have no idea what else got fucked in this patch. |
| 23:08.55 | Dewin | and gxrestart fixes it. (yay alt+enter keybind) |
| 23:09.07 | jnwhiteh | but issues like this, I cannot understand how they are Clique's. |
| 23:09.11 | Dagmar | You likely have unstable hardware/drivers then |
| 23:09.25 | Dewin | Yeah, started in 3.3ish too |
| 23:09.43 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: yeah, I might do an addon breakdown tonight |
| 23:09.48 | Wobin | to see if it's some other interaction |
| 23:09.52 | Dewin | Hopefully in a few months I'll have a budget for hardware upgrades |
| 23:09.55 | Dagmar | Yeah I never see graphical corruption like that until a card is failing |
| 23:09.57 | Mr_Rabies | I guess, Dagmar, but it's somewhat feature-creep-y to ask someone to turn the blizzard minimap icons into LDB icons and stuff for a minimap addon, I was asking if there was anything that already did that :/ |
| 23:10.13 | Wobin | Patches are wonderful times to bring the addon usage down to a minimum anyway =P |
| 23:10.18 | Dagmar | ...or unless I'm loooking at the machine of a friend who bought a really s**t power supply, which causes the card to fail randomly |
| 23:10.33 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: You don't ahve to do that |
| 23:10.36 | Dewin | I don't go cheap when I buy PSUs |
| 23:10.38 | Amarande | And you're sure that when you get graphical corruption that you don't have any corrupted MPQs? |
| 23:10.52 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Almost all the things I"ve used that had minimap icons, had ldb plugins that take their place just fine |
| 23:10.58 | Dewin | If it was corrupted MPQs, it'd trigger on the same model/textures every time |
| 23:11.04 | Amarande | I know back in the Guild Wars days, there were lots of issues where shit would start showing up as bright white boxes instead of what it was supposed to be, and you had to repair your data file to get it working again. |
| 23:11.04 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: I'll let you know if I figure out any faulty combination of addons |
| 23:11.08 | Mr_Rabies | Dagmar: i'm talking the default blizzard ones, not someone else's |
| 23:11.10 | Dewin | It's just slow degradation over time |
| 23:11.20 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: easiest thing to do is hook onattributechanged and see when stuff is going to happen |
| 23:11.20 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: ...and SexyMap stuffs them |
| 23:11.30 | Dewin | And my keybind to toggle fullscreen mode (which forces gxrestart) fixes it, at least for awhile |
| 23:11.58 | Mr_Rabies | check your ram usage (and i believe add virtual memory) to it next time it starts acting unstable |
| 23:12.02 | Mr_Rabies | and see if it's above 2GB |
| 23:12.09 | Mr_Rabies | if that's so, there's your culprit |
| 23:12.18 | Dewin | Yeah, I'll have to, I rarely see it break even 1GB though |
| 23:12.23 | Dagmar | dewin: So the card is losing the model data at some point |
| 23:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | you kinda have to wait and see until they either make wow support larger amounts of ram, or just make a 64 bit client |
| 23:13.01 | Mr_Rabies | memory leaks plus weird memory limitations equals EXPLOSIONS |
| 23:13.03 | Yssaril | Mr_Rabies: look for LDB addons that are specific for each icon on the Minimap they tend to give you the option to hide the MM one |
| 23:13.06 | Dagmar | Mr_Rabies: Or you try and flip a bit on the binary and hope the Warden doesn't notice |
| 23:13.18 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i'm afraid of that |
| 23:13.35 | Mr_Rabies | i already skirt the TOS enough as is :p |
| 23:13.44 | Dagmar | I'm waiting to see bluetext saying it doesn't _hinder_ Warden |
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| 23:14.02 | Dagmar | If it doesn't hinder warden then I might risk "explaining" that kind of minor mod to GMs |
| 23:14.12 | Ackis | Why does WoW crash so much on me? |
| 23:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | Yssaril: thanks, that's kinda what i've been doing but i'm lazy :p |
| 23:14.23 | Dagmar | You bought a dell? |
| 23:14.30 | nicoli_s | cuz you allow it to happen? |
| 23:14.38 | Mr_Rabies | Laziness is the first cousin to asking #wowuidev for help |
| 23:14.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:14.44 | Yssaril | Mr_Rabies: yea but that way you usually get more/better functionality out of the feeds |
| 23:14.44 | Ackis | I tried to click a pumpkin! |
| 23:14.47 | Amarande | WoW's memory management was designed by Goblin Engineers. |
| 23:14.58 | Mr_Rabies | pretty much |
| 23:15.01 | Ackis | you give them too much credit Amarande |
| 23:15.05 | Dagmar | ackis: Oh THAT bug |
| 23:15.13 | Dewin | Dagmar: People have posted on the forums (and got a blue response) for flipping that bit. |
| 23:15.14 | Mr_Rabies | Ackis: there's a serious problem with anything that uses the cog icon for some reason |
| 23:15.16 | Amarande | btw, did they take out the Eng specializations too, or just the LW, BS, and Tailoring ones? |
| 23:15.20 | Yssaril | Amarande: since when does wow have memory management? |
| 23:15.21 | Amarande | and Ackis, is ARL ready for 4.0 yet? |
| 23:15.22 | Dewin | The biggest thing was GMs warning that it'd cause patches to fail |
| 23:15.32 | Adys | !api sendchatm |
| 23:15.32 | lua_bot | SendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage) |
| 23:15.37 | Dagmar | Dewin: Yeah but no one ever said whether or not flipping that bit hinders Warden's ability to do it's job |
| 23:15.37 | Mr_Rabies | probably bugged out range checking i'm thinking |
| 23:15.49 | Mr_Rabies | it usually crashes on me when i'm right on the verge of being in range |
| 23:16.02 | Dagmar | I've no problem reverting things for patches. That's easy and expected. |
| 23:16.11 | Ackis | Amarande: kind of, it works but blizz changed so much there's a lot of DB work to do... pompy is doing it nicely though |
| 23:16.21 | Dagmar | I don't want them thinking I was doing it so that I could try and "hax0r the client" without getting caught at it or something |
| 23:16.39 | Dagmar | The app being LAA and Warden's code maybe not having that in mind, might cause issues |
| 23:17.10 | pompy | what ackis!? |
| 23:17.16 | Ackis | hi pompy |
| 23:17.30 | pompy | Amarande: yeah its ready.. just needs some db work |
| 23:17.59 | Amarande | dammit. |
| 23:18.05 | Amarande | the pitbull update didn't let me click out of wisp costume |
| 23:18.20 | Dagmar | Ah well, so much for tha |
| 23:18.30 | Dagmar | I already did all the achievement stuff for this one last year, too |
| 23:18.33 | Amarande | am I going to have to go back to X-Perl or try oUF, or are ALL unit frame addons currently similarly screwed? |
| 23:18.46 | Dagmar | Amarande: afaik the latter |
| 23:19.07 | Amarande | Dagmar: Temporarily, or will this be a permanent thing where we're going to have to keep Blizz buff icons around even with custom UFs? |
| 23:19.35 | Dagmar | Take heart in that if ckknight isn't in here jabbering, it's not impossible for him to be looking at it now |
| 23:19.43 | Dagmar | Amarande: Doubt it |
| 23:19.59 | Dagmar | I *think* it's just going to be a temporary issue |
| 23:20.26 | ckknight | they're all screwed. We can basically support filtering of Auras, or right-click canceling of them. |
| 23:20.50 | Dagmar | Yuck |
| 23:20.53 | Cide | Amarande: /cancelaura |
| 23:21.06 | Cide | solved |
| 23:21.07 | Cide | done |
| 23:21.35 | Ackis | can I queue for HH over and over for a mount chance? |
| 23:21.43 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 23:21.44 | Adys | no |
| 23:21.45 | Adys | I need some help. http://paste2.org/p/1044105 -- GuildBankMessageFrame is only created on GUILD_BANK_SHOW, whats the most succint way to register that event and discard it once i created it? |
| 23:21.55 | Dagmar | That fight is still tied to touching the pile of dirt |
| 23:21.57 | Amarande | ckknight: so pitbull cannot be restored to previous functionality, then? |
| 23:22.02 | Adys | (lines 46/47) |
| 23:22.08 | Dagmar | ...and his other trinkets aren't really worth playing "whack the pinata - enduro edition" for |
| 23:22.13 | ckknight | Amarande: I told you the situation, it's an either-or thing |
| 23:22.17 | Amarande | wow, I'm surprised there aren't 40 billion pages of QQ about this, too |
| 23:22.22 | ckknight | the Aura system is Shefki's baby, though |
| 23:22.27 | ckknight | you can chat him up about it |
| 23:22.35 | Dagmar | I'll stick with my filtering |
| 23:22.54 | Dagmar | I'm very happy now that I've finally gotten the pet wolf buffs shown down to the _one_ I give a crap about |
| 23:23.02 | Amarande | mainly because Hallow's End just started, and probably the first time a lot of people (myself included) are going to hit this issue are when they pick up one of the Halloween forms that doesn't let you do anything unless you click it off (and lasts an hour if you don't, and since it's a buff *won't* time out while logged off) |
| 23:23.34 | Dagmar | Amarande: noob |
| 23:23.54 | Amarande | Dagmar: I can't think of an occasion in serious raiding where you normally click off a buff, unless you get DI'd |
| 23:23.58 | Amarande | and since I'm not a rezzer, I never get DI'd heh |
| 23:24.10 | Dagmar | I've been DI'd once |
| 23:24.13 | Dagmar | I was *not* amused by it |
| 23:24.29 | Dagmar | I didn't know WTF was going on |
| 23:24.32 | Amarande | but yeah, buff clickoff was something more commonly done during BC |
| 23:25.05 | Amarande | now it's barely ever done, so yeah, a lot of people are probably first going to see this issue today |
| 23:25.18 | Amarande | since 1) it wasn't an issue before 4.0.1, and 2) hallow's end has things like the wisp form |
| 23:25.20 | Dagmar | I'm checking my bags to make sure I didn't run out of bullets like a noob, trying different abilities... nothing's working. pfft |
| 23:25.45 | nicoli_s | ok in this gallery: http://io9.com/5667163/what-if-iron-man-captain-america-and-thor-starred-in-tron/gallery/ anyone think the 3rd pic has waaaaaaaayyyy too big breasts? |
| 23:25.52 | Amarande | actually, I can see one other thing where this is going to be a pain in the ass, but that won't be for a while given the 5,000 gold entrance fee. |
| 23:25.58 | Jamash | what are bullets? |
| 23:26.08 | Cide | what are breasts? |
| 23:26.15 | Adys | what are? |
| 23:26.18 | Dagmar | Jamash: The things that dwarves use to let you know they care enough to send purples. |
| 23:26.20 | Cide | wat? |
| 23:26.30 | Amarande | Jamash: little pieces of metal that murder victims often have an allergic reaction to having introduced into their flesh. :) |
| 23:26.44 | Jamash | you mean those grays I found in my bag when I woke up this week? |
| 23:26.54 | Dagmar | Yeah. *sigh* |
| 23:27.06 | Dagmar | I own 42,982 rounds in total. |
| 23:27.14 | Amarande | Jamash, I *warned* people last Monday not to buy more than they needed for that night |
| 23:27.17 | xyphoid | wasn't the buff cancelling thing was related to cancelling shadowmourne auras automatically to increase dps or something? |
| 23:27.40 | Dagmar | Oh screw that, I bought more than I needed *six months* ago because someone was selling them for 2g50s a stack |
| 23:27.42 | Jamash | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22most+common+superpower%22 |
| 23:27.47 | Amarande | xyphoid, given that I can't even remember what Shadowmourne's special mojo is? |
| 23:28.07 | Dagmar | I was giving them away to warrior and rogues alike last week |
| 23:28.17 | Dagmar | At one point I had over 85,000 rounds in the bank |
| 23:28.20 | Amarande | as a frost DPS DK, Shadowmourne would only have been any good during this last month and a half of LK, pretty much. |
| 23:28.24 | Amarande | and I didn't bother to get it. |
| 23:28.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: You overlook it's awesomeness. |
| 23:28.58 | Dagmar | This is not easily quantifiable in terms of deeps. |
| 23:29.30 | Dagmar | YOu get it and you can say "F**K YEAH! I have SHADOWMOURNE!" |
| 23:29.45 | Dagmar | It's not about whether or not it's BiS or something. |
| 23:29.50 | Adys | !api frame:register |
| 23:29.50 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'frame:register': Frame:RegisterEvent, Frame:RegisterAllEvents, Frame:RegisterForDrag |
| 23:29.54 | Adys | !api frame:registerevent |
| 23:29.54 | lua_bot | Frame:RegisterEvent: Registers the frame for an [[docs/events|event]] (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/RegisterEvent) |
| 23:30.15 | Dagmar | You get to walk past LK and say "I got your sword, bitch! Whatchew gon' do about it? Nothing! That's right. Not a damn thing!" |
| 23:30.54 | Dagmar | When it comes to the bonking your dwarf friends on the head over it, just leave me out of that bit |
| 23:32.15 | Jamash | it's more of an axe that used to be a hammer |
| 23:33.47 | Dagmar | BTW, when you're taking your new Worgen up through the levels, when you get to that quest... be sure and file a GM ticket reporting Arthas being a goddamn ninja |
| 23:34.35 | foxlit | So now I've asked Lua to pretty-print a 200MB table |
| 23:34.51 | foxlit | Taking bets: is it going to make it, or am I going to lose two hours of data? |
| 23:34.58 | Dagmar | Wow. |
| 23:35.16 | nebula169 | should be fine! |
| 23:35.21 | Dagmar | I'd like to think you did things in a slightly different way than what would make the latter happen |
| 23:44.46 | Adys | !api frame:unreg |
| 23:44.46 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'frame:unreg': Frame:UnregisterAllEvents, Frame:UnregisterEvent |
