| 00:00.37 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 00:00.43 | DWSR | My DPS went up on my death knight by 1k. |
| 00:00.50 | DWSR | And I haven't played Frost in AGES. |
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| 00:02.16 | Xinhuan | amro, cos if it is doing that, its a folder/file permission issue |
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| 00:02.31 | amro | Xinhuan: it's writing to disk for sure |
| 00:02.34 | jnwhiteh | If anyone has an opportunity, I could use some thorough testing with the latest version of Clique (1.1.0). I've got so many shit users who can't report an error message to save their lives, and it would really help to have some people 'in the know' watch it. Especially if you're using Grid, I'd like any reports you have: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=209569#post209569 |
| 00:02.38 | jnwhiteh | Goodnight guys |
| 00:03.30 | Xinhuan | u can also try restoring your original launcher.wtf |
| 00:03.49 | Xinhuan | apart from that, no clue |
| 00:03.59 | Xinhuan | tech support forums maybe |
| 00:07.56 | Legorol | Evening! Happy post-patch day! and happy patch day to EU-rites |
| 00:08.00 | Legorol | It's fun fun |
| 00:08.41 | amro | Xinhuan: never modified it |
| 00:08.47 | DWSR | wow. |
| 00:08.51 | DWSR | Skada is seriously broken. |
| 00:08.52 | Thunder_Child | did they add in the DX11 yet? |
| 00:09.00 | Thunder_Child | to live |
| 00:10.47 | DWSR | God, what UF to use. |
| 00:10.55 | DWSR | I was thinking /maybe/ oUF, but configuration is a pain. |
| 00:10.57 | DWSR | Pitbull's out. |
| 00:11.02 | DWSR | So's xperl. |
| 00:11.08 | DWSR | Any others of note that I'm missing? |
| 00:12.02 | foxlit | i'm still using my bc frames |
| 00:12.26 | Thunder_Child | hmm...so with all settings on ultra in dal i get a stunning 7 fps |
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| 00:13.21 | Amarande | DWSR: why is Pitbull out? |
| 00:13.28 | Amarande | I've seen no problems with Pitbull in 4.0.1 |
| 00:13.30 | DWSR | It's not configurable enough |
| 00:13.38 | Amarande | pitbull is *not configurable enough*? |
| 00:13.46 | Amarande | I thought you could configure basically EVERYTHING in pitbull :S |
| 00:14.16 | Jerub | is auctioneer updated? |
| 00:14.17 | DWSR | Yeah, you can. Just not every option. |
| 00:14.23 | DWSR | SUF > PB in flexibility. |
| 00:14.31 | Jerub | i really like the new blizzard raid frames |
| 00:14.41 | foxlit | write your own already |
| 00:14.47 | Amarande | Jerub: I'm kinda enjoying the better performance of not having auctioneer installed. |
| 00:14.56 | Amarande | Too bad that's going to make it a real pain to post auctions till I do reinstall it though :S |
| 00:15.09 | Jerub | Amarande: i don't run it on my raid toons :P |
| 00:15.09 | Dagmar | Exactly how was it slowing your client down? |
| 00:15.28 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.31 | Jerub | Dagmar: login/logout is much slower with many data heavy addons |
| 00:15.38 | DWSR | ^ |
| 00:15.39 | Dagmar | Jerub: Yeah that's always going to be true tho |
| 00:15.48 | Gnarfoz | except when you install ACP |
| 00:15.51 | Gnarfoz | :O |
| 00:15.52 | Jerub | Dagmar: yeah, but auctioneer is really really data heavy |
| 00:16.02 | DWSR | Additionally, the item database is loaded for comparing item prices and such. |
| 00:16.13 | Gnarfoz | is not, when you don't run their shit tooltip addon |
| 00:16.15 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 00:16.16 | Dagmar | either way, I still zone faster than most people with it loaded |
| 00:16.41 | Dagmar | LightHeaded seems to have a greater impact on zone times for me |
| 00:16.49 | Jerub | is guild rep in 4.0.1? |
| 00:16.54 | Gnarfoz | it's even fatter, I think |
| 00:16.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:17.28 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:18.05 | Thunder_Child | seriously, why do i get better fps with higher settings |
| 00:18.36 | Gnarfoz | LH is over 10MiB bigger than AucAdv for me |
| 00:18.37 | Mirrored | bernoulli effect, obviously |
| 00:18.46 | DWSR | T_C: Kicking in something on your gpu? |
| 00:19.02 | Jerub | what's LH? |
| 00:19.10 | Mirrored | lightheaded |
| 00:19.17 | Jerub | i mean, what's lightheaded |
| 00:19.20 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: i dont know. all i know is that at good i get 10 fps in dal, and with uldtra i get ~20 |
| 00:19.23 | amro | should be HH imo |
| 00:19.25 | Thunder_Child | ultra* |
| 00:19.25 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 00:19.25 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 00:19.26 | Dagmar | Jerub: Massive DB of quest chains, location, and quest texts |
| 00:19.33 | Gnarfoz | it's wowhead's comments. |
| 00:19.36 | Mirrored | it contains an entire database of data from wowhead, I thik |
| 00:19.40 | Jerub | oh right |
| 00:19.41 | Gnarfoz | (plus info to link it all together) |
| 00:19.43 | Mirrored | it's useful but holy god is it huge |
| 00:19.48 | Gnarfoz | 35MiB |
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| 00:20.21 | Jerub | see, i don't run that, auctioneer, or anything data heavy if i can avoid it |
| 00:20.27 | Gnarfoz | Auctioneer's entire SVs are 24MiB for me (YMMV, obviously) |
| 00:20.30 | Jerub | and QH only runs on my questing toons |
| 00:20.41 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Some setting is clearly getting put on ultra and then turning around saying "Nope, not implemented yet" and falling back to the speediest mode |
| 00:20.54 | Dagmar | Jerub: Buy moar cpuz |
| 00:21.10 | Dagmar | I maybe wait 15s to load |
| 00:21.15 | Jerub | Dagmar: 15s? |
| 00:21.21 | Dagmar | 15 seconds. |
| 00:21.22 | Jerub | without addons on my ancient machine it's like 5. |
| 00:21.31 | Amarande | also, this new water feels odd at times, like in ghostlands |
| 00:21.37 | Jerub | i tolerate 10-20 |
| 00:21.37 | Amarande | I swear I swim slower than I used to |
| 00:21.42 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar:except it still looks better than the other modes |
| 00:21.51 | Jerub | 15s is *slow* |
| 00:21.53 | Dagmar | That's zoning into Dalran with LightHeaded, Auctioneer, Arkinventory and MobInfo loaded |
| 00:21.55 | Amarande | it feels like the ghostlands water really IS some sort of odd evil eerie ghost goop that slows you down |
| 00:22.08 | Thunder_Child | high also gets more fps |
| 00:22.19 | Dagmar | 15s is long enough for me to grab a smoke and light it |
| 00:22.47 | Jerub | you smoke? |
| 00:22.51 | Jerub | you smoke at your computer? |
| 00:22.53 | Dagmar | yes. |
| 00:23.01 | Jerub | man, i knew you were a filthy man, but uggghgh |
| 00:23.07 | Thunder_Child | so does cairenn |
| 00:23.18 | Dagmar | If you know how to deploy air filters, it's not a problem |
| 00:23.28 | Dagmar | ...and smoking beats random killings. |
| 00:24.09 | Dagmar | it's when someone smokes in a small room with no ventilation and no air filtration that it becomes a problem |
| 00:24.53 | amro | Xinhuan: there's an option to enable quick play regardless of bandwidth |
| 00:25.08 | amro | now it's no longer greyed out |
| 00:26.48 | Legorol | This is strange, the Dungeon Finder doesn't list JP as being a bonus reward for completing a random heroic |
| 00:26.59 | Legorol | Do you still get JP as bonus? or just what drops from bosses |
| 00:27.07 | Dagmar | That's because it's not on the first one of the day |
| 00:27.17 | Amarande | ok, this has to be the dumbest scam email ever |
| 00:27.18 | Dagmar | You get the other points (IIRC) for the first one |
| 00:27.33 | Amarande | "LAST NOTICE: Your Federal Tax Payment has been rejected." |
| 00:27.47 | Amarande | Given that I've never, EVER had to PAY when I do a federal tax return? LOL |
| 00:28.14 | Dagmar | Holler at HR about it and stop filing |
| 00:28.26 | Dagmar | Tell them you don't want the tax change thingie |
| 00:28.55 | Arrowmaster | meh i just dont file any income tax |
| 00:29.05 | Dagmar | If you didnt owe this last year you either had a pay scale change or HR was fucking being sloppy |
| 00:29.22 | Dagmar | One of the "incentives" was basically to change how much money comes out of your paycheck up front |
| 00:29.47 | Dagmar | The result was that basically everyone who would have previously paid almost the exactly correct amount of taxes suddenly owed money |
| 00:30.02 | Dagmar | Kinda shit if you ask me |
| 00:30.16 | Dagmar | I instructed HR to stop doing that here |
| 00:30.40 | Dagmar | I much prefer looking at the thing, seeing that they owe me a pittance, and not filing |
| 00:35.21 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: ahh, you use the Wesley Snipes Edition of TaxCut |
| 00:35.44 | Dagmar | No, if you don't owe you don't have ot file |
| 00:35.54 | Dagmar | You just better be right about that shit tho |
| 00:36.12 | Dagmar | Mr. Auditor's heart is not softened by the word "Whoops!" |
| 00:37.26 | Dagmar | Snipes spent too much time hanging out with that pothead Harrelson |
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| 00:47.21 | Amarande | hah, I see someone else understands how much Sindy sucks when you have to bring in pugs ... http://forthebubbles.wordpress.com/2010/10/08/johnny-fucking-walker/ |
| 00:48.38 | Legorol | Dagmar: what do you mean it's not on the first one of the day? |
| 00:48.46 | Legorol | You get JP bonus for something other than the first heroic of the day? |
| 00:52.52 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27187856197/class-balance-as-of-oct-13-2010/ |
| 00:55.42 | Dagmar | Legorol: Nevermind I misread the thing, I thought it was valor points for the first one |
| 00:55.47 | Dagmar | Must be bugged then |
| 00:58.21 | bleeter | OH NOES DEY BE STEELIN MY ENCHANTZ!!!111!!1!! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27187856203&sid=1 |
| 01:00.20 | Amarande | hmm apparently armory doesn't show reforges or even your primary professions right now |
| 01:01.55 | bleeter | that's cogwheel's fault for sure |
| 01:02.13 | Jerub | oh, i asked a question the other day, and i found the answer by waiting. |
| 01:02.20 | Jerub | i used to have runed cardinal ruby recipie. |
| 01:02.26 | Jerub | now i have brilliant cardinal ruby recipe. |
| 01:02.36 | Jerub | blizz gave me all the equivilent epic gem recipes :D |
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| 01:05.11 | Hirsute | Gah. Trying to cobble together quick-n-dirty fixes for some addons my wife uses to raid before her ICC tonight. |
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| 01:08.42 | Hirsute | If I do local SetSpell = SetSpellBookItem, will subsequent GameTooltip:SetSpell-s work? |
| 01:09.46 | Amarande | I'm wondering how epically people are going to fail on boss fights having to get used to using Big Wigs when they used to use DBM |
| 01:10.05 | Hirsute | I've always used BW, rather than DBM, so *shrug* |
| 01:10.15 | Amarande | I used BW in BC, but then DBM in LK |
| 01:10.49 | Hirsute | Their response to gold-selling ads popping up on their site didn't impress me, and I was happy with BW, so I never switched. |
| 01:11.41 | Amarande | Jerub: and my tailor now has three different 20 slot, two 18 slot, and three 16 slot bag recipes |
| 01:11.58 | Jerub | Amarande: nice |
| 01:12.08 | Amarande | also, the Glacial Bag, unless they change anything in the next patch, is more or less officially a thing of the past. |
| 01:12.10 | Jerub | logging on my tailor tonight |
| 01:12.14 | Jerub | only doing 1 toon per day |
| 01:12.21 | Jerub | can't relearn wow on all my alts in one go |
| 01:12.25 | Jerub | Amarande: hm? |
| 01:12.36 | Amarande | Jerub: the former 32 slot soul bag became a 22 slot regular bag |
| 01:12.40 | Amarande | but it uses less mats, and doesn't have a CD |
| 01:12.59 | Jerub | oh right |
| 01:13.01 | Jerub | you don't mean that |
| 01:13.09 | Amarande | so now there's no good reason to make glacial bags :S |
| 01:13.12 | Jerub | you dont' mean that it's a thing of th epast becaue of a bug, it's just more expensive |
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| 01:38.23 | Yssaril | DBM isn being updated for cata? |
| 01:39.15 | Amarande | Yssaril: use Big Wigs. |
| 01:39.32 | Yssaril | that wasnt the question (i have always used BW) |
| 01:39.33 | cog|away | bleeter: 07:58 < cog|away> oh look another thing that's all cog's fault: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=27188062773 |
| 01:40.02 | Yssaril | was just wondering about DBM |
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| 01:40.18 | Jerub | DBM load naxxaramus mods when i did a heroic |
| 01:40.22 | cogwheel | hai Sixen |
| 01:40.27 | Jerub | and heroic mods when i went to nax |
| 01:40.38 | Sixen | hai cawghweel |
| 01:41.12 | Amarande | Jerub: did it load the TOGC25 Anub when you tried to do AN or such? :) |
| 01:42.58 | Jerub | Amarande: don't know |
| 01:43.00 | Jerub | the heroic was HOL |
| 01:43.08 | Jerub | or maybe POS, can't remember when i thappened |
| 01:43.39 | Jerub | Amarande: oh, you're stirring me. i see. |
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| 01:45.08 | Quaunaut | Hiyo |
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| 01:52.50 | kd3 | lol; http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27191405819&sid=1 |
| 01:52.56 | cralor | is the name arg of ADDON_LOADED the TOC name? |
| 01:54.59 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27189095666&sid=1 |
| 01:56.20 | Xyphoid | databases are people too |
| 01:57.36 | cralor | hey, hey ^ ^ :D |
| 02:00.03 | DWSR | ~seen haste |
| 02:00.08 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 589 messages. Is idling for 4h 30m 1s, last said: 'vhaarr: it's only true for the player, and I wouldn't be surprised if it bugs out if you use showPlayer only on a haeder'. |
| 02:00.25 | DWSR | haste: Is oUF_RingThing a layout or a fork? |
| 02:01.08 | cralor | DWSR: my names not haste, but I think it's a layout: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14213.html |
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| 02:11.40 | Shirik | :/ |
| 02:11.42 | Shirik | just crashed visual studio |
| 02:12.04 | Arrowmaster | do you want to cookie or something? |
| 02:12.15 | Shirik | It does not enjoy opening 300MB XML files that are all on one line |
| 02:12.38 | Shirik | it hit 3 GB of memory before being killed off by windows |
| 02:12.45 | Arrowmaster | you think thats funny? try opening a 6mb XML file in a browser |
| 02:14.11 | Arrowmaster | i only had 1gb of ram and firefox was using over that, so one process alone was using my entire ram plus page file |
| 02:14.25 | Shirik | well firefox does that with nothing open |
| 02:14.46 | Arrowmaster | touche |
| 02:16.32 | amro | ~Shirik++ |
| 02:16.49 | amro | although, question: why are you opening a 300mb xml file on one line? |
| 02:16.55 | Shirik | blame the FAA |
| 02:16.56 | amro | sounds like something not meant to be human readable |
| 02:17.11 | Shirik | http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdidocs/asdi_sample_data.zip |
| 02:23.51 | Quaunaut | Is the only decent way to filter out Units who aren't the player in UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED to do an if command atop the entire function? |
| 02:25.51 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:26.08 | Quaunaut | And there's no simpler means of checking the player's casts? |
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| 02:26.26 | Arrowmaster | how is that not simple? |
| 02:26.34 | Quaunaut | Well, simple is the wrong word |
| 02:26.42 | Quaunaut | I suppose I'm worrying(for no good reason) about resource load |
| 02:27.00 | Quaunaut | "That's a check it doesn't even have to do! omgqq" |
| 02:27.17 | Arrowmaster | dont worry about stuff like that |
| 02:27.41 | Arrowmaster | as long as you check for the most common ways out first before anything actually happens your good |
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| 02:27.58 | Quaunaut | Okie :D |
| 02:28.10 | Quaunaut | On, and the event "OnUpdate" is essentially every frame right? |
| 02:28.27 | Arrowmaster | yes but thats not an event |
| 02:28.32 | intangir_ | hey guys, how hard would it be to setup a queueing functionality for the auctionhouse, into a library, and have old addons that are used to being able to queue auctions without a hardware click to function without much alteration? |
| 02:28.34 | Quaunaut | No? |
| 02:28.49 | intangir_ | can i override the type of calls being made to wow's api? |
| 02:28.55 | intangir_ | to instead call my functions |
| 02:29.07 | Arrowmaster | intangir_: not for protected functions |
| 02:29.17 | Arrowmaster | like the auction house api's now |
| 02:29.55 | intangir_ | this sure is going to ugly up auction addons.. |
| 02:31.29 | intangir_ | i made 25k gold today ;) |
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| 02:34.25 | Nechckn | Protected is as protected does... |
| 02:35.12 | Iriel | Forrest Taint? |
| 02:35.33 | Quaunaut | So then, Arrowmaster, what is OnUpdate from? |
| 02:35.37 | Nechckn | Life is like a box of Iriels... |
| 02:38.17 | amro | ckknight: ping |
| 02:38.51 | Duman | blargh |
| 02:44.56 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPDKIebAos |
| 02:46.39 | batrick | I just got the wierdest fucking error |
| 02:46.47 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:47.10 | batrick | anyone know why in WoW I would get this error: "bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil)" |
| 02:47.24 | batrick | ddi they hook format or something? |
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| 02:49.20 | Iriel | batrick: it's talking about toad_link |
| 02:49.25 | Iriel | not about your pattern |
| 02:49.42 | Iriel | (I think, at any rate) |
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| 02:50.12 | Shirik | :/ |
| 02:50.12 | Iriel | Yes |
| 02:50.17 | Shirik | Google is too intelligent |
| 02:50.25 | batrick | that doesn't sound like standard lua behavior Iriel |
| 02:50.34 | Iriel | batrick: Why not? |
| 02:50.46 | Iriel | You called it as a method, why shouldn't the error be like a method? |
| 02:50.53 | batrick | I'm pretty sure it would be arg #2 in standard lua |
| 02:51.07 | Iriel | You'd be wrong |
| 02:51.17 | Iriel | > return ("%s %s"):format("x", nil) |
| 02:51.18 | Shirik | Open an email from one of my coworkers. Ads on the right: "Export controls awareness" "UAV airframes/avionics" "Unmanned aerial systems" "Hi-tech UAV airframes" ..... and, for some reason, "Buy from China" |
| 02:51.18 | Iriel | stdin:1: bad argument #2 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 02:51.59 | batrick | !lua debug.setmetatable(nil, {__index = string}); (nil):format("hi") |
| 02:51.59 | batbot | batrick: @ [string "debug.setmetatable(nil, {__index = string})..."]:1: calling 'format' on bad self (string expected, got nil) |
| 02:52.05 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 02:52.21 | batrick | I forgot Lua does that... thanks for reminding me Iriel =D |
| 02:53.19 | kd3 | Shirik, lol |
| 02:53.49 | Nechckn | export controls - HAH! |
| 02:54.08 | Nechckn | Not so much; anymore. |
| 02:54.22 | Shirik | Actually stuff I work on is heavily regulated by exports controls |
| 02:54.34 | Shirik | primarily because it's considered a military weapon |
| 02:55.26 | kd3 | yawns as the next beta build rolls slowly along |
| 02:56.46 | Jerub | anyone know a website that gives me a per-class survival guide? |
| 02:56.51 | Jerub | for 4.0.1 ? |
| 02:57.07 | batrick | is Chronos broken in the new expansion? |
| 02:57.10 | Dagmar | "If something tries to kill you, then you try to kill it right back, and harder!" |
| 02:57.11 | batrick | is there an alternative? |
| 02:57.13 | Dagmar | Done! |
| 02:58.47 | amro | Shirik: crypto laws are more lol |
| 02:58.53 | Shirik | yeah I agree |
| 02:58.54 | amro | you can get in big trouble by pasting some shit on IRC |
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| 02:59.04 | amro | because OMG someone from iran can see it!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:59.13 | Dagmar | amro: We can fix that |
| 02:59.20 | Dagmar | Knock 'em offline, problem solved. |
| 02:59.26 | amro | :( |
| 02:59.29 | amro | iranians are cool people |
| 02:59.37 | Dagmar | Some of them. |
| 02:59.47 | Dagmar | Ahmadinejad can go suck a ****. |
| 03:00.47 | batrick | ugh |
| 03:00.52 | batrick | what's the timer mod of choice these days |
| 03:00.54 | batrick | Chronos is boned |
| 03:00.56 | amro | I think that would be illegal dagmar |
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| 03:01.21 | Dagmar | amro: No, it's only illegal there if you're *gay* |
| 03:01.50 | Dagmar | I'm sure Mr. Ahmadinnerjacket took his share of wangs up the ahem when he was a kid |
| 03:01.57 | Dagmar | ...but that doesn't make them gay! |
| 03:02.03 | Dagmar | (Don't ask me how the hell that works, either) |
| 03:02.23 | amro | I don't want to know how that works |
| 03:06.04 | amro | anyone in here using liblinq? |
| 03:07.47 | Wobin | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KW3E9uikgI&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:08.04 | Wobin | that koala is one step from ripping her face off =P |
| 03:08.58 | amro | yeah, disappointing vid |
| 03:09.00 | amro | I want to see that next step |
| 03:10.18 | Torhal | batrick: AceTimer-3.0 (no, you don't need anything else from Ace3) |
| 03:10.39 | Torhal | Unless I'm completely not understanding what you want |
| 03:16.54 | batrick | you did understand |
| 03:17.01 | batrick | man i was afraid someone would say an Ace addon |
| 03:17.09 | batrick | but if I don't need anything else I suppose that's sufficient |
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| 03:23.32 | Computerpunk | hehe |
| 03:23.36 | Computerpunk | already 3 comments saying thanks |
| 03:25.28 | Kraps | for what? |
| 03:27.56 | Computerpunk | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/under-hood.aspx |
| 03:27.58 | Computerpunk | Check tags. |
| 03:32.47 | Kraps | i use icehud myself |
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| 03:33.17 | Computerpunk | Dunno, not trying to tell ya: Use this. |
| 03:33.30 | Kraps | i know :) |
| 03:37.06 | Computerpunk | also. |
| 03:37.10 | Computerpunk | Blizzard and its secure buff frames. |
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| 03:58.11 | cogwheel | amro: next lfmf is encoding :) |
| 03:58.21 | amro | ! |
| 03:58.36 | amro | eta? |
| 03:58.37 | cogwheel | meant to do it yesterday but wow... |
| 03:58.40 | cogwheel | (as in WoW) |
| 03:58.53 | cogwheel | 45 minutes to encode, probably an hour to upload |
| 03:59.04 | cogwheel | and then another half hour or so to annotate |
| 03:59.28 | cogwheel | and i can't play any games while it's encoding lest it take 5 hours... |
| 03:59.38 | Dagmar | I like this thing Google has whipped out on the RIAA |
| 03:59.42 | amro | huh |
| 03:59.47 | amro | HD is tough |
| 04:00.10 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Maybe keep an eye out for a used Hauppauge HD-PVR |
| 04:00.34 | Dagmar | I've done a few test runs here... I'll probablyh viddy up a lot of guild stuff in Cata this fall |
| 04:00.51 | cogwheel | Dagmar: donate to my channel and maybe i will :P |
| 04:01.01 | Dagmar | You feed component video in one end, and h.264 comes out the other |
| 04:01.16 | cogwheel | interlaced makes me QQ |
| 04:01.23 | cogwheel | and uploading's the bottleneck for me |
| 04:01.30 | Dagmar | Hey I"m just reminding you there's a way to save a bit of time if you find one cheap |
| 04:01.34 | Dagmar | What's interlaced? |
| 04:01.39 | cogwheel | 1080i |
| 04:01.50 | Dagmar | *blinkblink* |
| 04:01.52 | cogwheel | that hd-pvr doesn't do 1080p |
| 04:01.58 | cogwheel | ~dict interlaced |
| 04:02.03 | Dagmar | I know what it means |
| 04:02.13 | TMc51 | Dagmar: ever look close at an old tv, and how it draws every other line each frame? |
| 04:02.26 | Dagmar | I don't know where you got the idea it doesn't do 1080p |
| 04:02.36 | cogwheel | HD PVR is the world's first High-Definition video recorder for making real-time H.264 compressed recordings at resolutions up to 1080i |
| 04:02.50 | cogwheel | i don't think you can do 1080p over component |
| 04:02.52 | cogwheel | only hdmi |
| 04:03.09 | cogwheel | hdmi/dvi |
| 04:03.12 | cogwheel | etc |
| 04:03.59 | Dagmar | Afaik component doesn't care |
| 04:04.05 | Dagmar | My computer definitely didn't have a problem faking it |
| 04:04.35 | cogwheel | it was probably sending an interlaced signal |
| 04:04.52 | Dagmar | I figure it would have said something about that |
| 04:05.00 | cogwheel | *shrug* |
| 04:05.17 | cogwheel | i wonder how the quality compares with adobe's |
| 04:05.45 | cogwheel | i'd rather just get some more cores |
| 04:05.48 | Gnarfoz | how about staying digital all the way? |
| 04:05.57 | Dagmar | With Adobe's what? |
| 04:06.01 | cogwheel | encoder |
| 04:06.08 | Dagmar | Surely you don't mean tnat piece of shit media server they sell people |
| 04:06.32 | Dagmar | Component does 1080p. |
| 04:06.39 | Arrowmaster | its not standard though |
| 04:06.42 | amro | sylvanaar: I'm getting an error in idea, it's not misbehaving or anything but i see the error thing in the bottom right. do I just click blame Lua and you get the trace? |
| 04:06.46 | Dagmar | It's a political problem that many devices will refuse to do 1080p over component |
| 04:06.46 | cogwheel | and it's analog |
| 04:06.52 | Computerpunk | So, anyone figured out Secure Buff Frames? |
| 04:07.11 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 04:07.21 | Computerpunk | just curios |
| 04:07.23 | Computerpunk | curious* |
| 04:08.06 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That doesn't really mean a whole lot in this context. See also http://www.hdtvinfo.eu/news/hdtv-articles/1080p-over-component-video-standard-proposed-to-the-cea.html |
| 04:08.36 | amro | cogwheel: I wonder how long it takes day9 to do 1hr+ in HD |
| 04:08.41 | Dagmar | Hollywood wants to be dicks and not let that happen. |
| 04:09.13 | cogwheel | amro: i'm betting under an hour |
| 04:09.31 | Dagmar | Checking the test recording, I was doing 1080p out |
| 04:09.37 | Dagmar | ...and it definitely recorded it |
| 04:09.39 | amro | cogwheel: incl upload? |
| 04:09.40 | cogwheel | if intel still made quad cores for my mobo i could nearly halve my time |
| 04:09.43 | cogwheel | no |
| 04:09.49 | cogwheel | but certainly for the encoding |
| 04:10.04 | cogwheel | maybe a couple hours total? |
| 04:10.11 | amro | I can't even get tools that encode properly |
| 04:10.15 | cogwheel | and wtb youtube upload while encoding... |
| 04:10.16 | amro | sound desyncs |
| 04:10.21 | Gnarfoz | just because they don't make them doesn't mean you can't buy them? or are you at the top of the line already |
| 04:10.22 | cogwheel | lern2pipeline |
| 04:10.43 | amro | pipeline |
| 04:10.45 | amro | ? |
| 04:10.55 | cogwheel | amro: re: what i was saying |
| 04:11.00 | amro | ah |
| 04:11.05 | Gnarfoz | also, blackmagic intensity |
| 04:11.35 | Arrowmaster | "HD DVD and Blu-ray movies are typically encoded in 1080p/24 Hz. In order to output the film over 1080i/60 Hz, the content is staggered into the 3:2 pulldown sequence to make up for the frame rate difference, and interlaced to 60 fields/sec. In this process, all of the pixel information is intact, and nothing should be thrown away." |
| 04:11.41 | Arrowmaster | BAD ARTICLE! |
| 04:11.43 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: 1) i'm not really comfortable buying "after-market" cpus, and none of the major sites/stores sells them; 2) i'd rather wait for intel's next gen which should be out early next year |
| 04:12.31 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: how long are your videos? |
| 04:12.32 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: lol |
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| 04:13.04 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: seriously bad article, even if nothing is lost in 3:2 pulldown, the timing is completely fucked up |
| 04:13.30 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Shit like that is why media IP holders should never have been allowed to get involved in t4echnical transmission standards or their promotion |
| 04:13.36 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: BUT THE PIXELS ARE THERE |
| 04:13.57 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: 10s of minutes. So far the longest was just over 30 mins |
| 04:14.01 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: BUT THE ANIMATION/MOVEMENTS LOOK LIKE SHIT |
| 04:14.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It works because the fucking frames as they're encoded arne't meant to be played back at a fixed rate |
| 04:14.06 | cogwheel | so it was 3 parts |
| 04:14.28 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: um, no need to shout, i was just being stupid |
| 04:14.31 | Dagmar | It freaking drove me batty trying to figure out why I had juddering on the opening scene of the Hogfather with A'tuin |
| 04:14.34 | cogwheel | at least then i can do some of it concurrently |
| 04:14.56 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: how old is your cpu? |
| 04:15.09 | Dagmar | I was screwing myself trying to ignore the fancy-fancy of telecine |
| 04:15.27 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: 2007 |
| 04:15.37 | amro | cogwheel: I'm still hoping for someone to invent a way to embed voice overs on a .sc2replay |
| 04:15.58 | cogwheel | amro: except that you can replay them at any speed |
| 04:16.22 | amro | you'd be on a "track" |
| 04:16.30 | amro | incl. rewinds and shit |
| 04:16.30 | Dagmar | amro: Cinelerra, once you have it in an actual video format |
| 04:16.54 | Arrowmaster | without any tweaking of settings i could encode a dvd source to h264 at a little under realtime in my i7 920 (realtime is a bad choice of words since it was a 2 pass encode) |
| 04:17.05 | amro | Dagmar: what do you mean? |
| 04:17.14 | Gnarfoz | h264 twopass? x264 crf. |
| 04:17.26 | Gnarfoz | (well, I guess since you're using past tense, you didn't try that at the time) |
| 04:17.27 | Dagmar | amro: I mean there's acutally a number of non-suck NLEs out there |
| 04:17.43 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: was using one of handbreaks defaults |
| 04:17.51 | amro | Dagmar: what I meant was to embed it into the replay, so you load up the replay in sc2 and get the voice overs |
| 04:17.58 | amro | without having to waste bw on HD video |
| 04:18.02 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: yeah, i've been quite content with my processor since i've never done much more than folding@home to use up my cores... |
| 04:18.04 | Gnarfoz | hm. did you intend to reach a pre-determined filesize? |
| 04:18.29 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: yeah |
| 04:18.32 | Dagmar | amor: I think you're gonna be out of luck on that one |
| 04:18.49 | Gnarfoz | well ok, can't really work with crf there, I withdraw my argument. ;] |
| 04:18.56 | Dagmar | I imagine most of what would get recorded that way would be kids screaming obscenities at their opponents |
| 04:20.12 | cogwheel | yeah... next year will be upgrade time for us |
| 04:21.29 | Arrowmaster | i think my mobo should support one of those 6 core i7 monsters, i might upgrade to one of those first before going with a completely new system when the time comes |
| 04:22.08 | cogwheel | we started out with the 3.0ghz core2duos but upgraded to the 3.2s a year or so ago |
| 04:22.21 | amro | Dagmar: yeah, but I wouldn't be downloading those :P |
| 04:22.32 | cogwheel | even if they still made the quad cores, it would be a drop in clock |
| 04:22.44 | cogwheel | which would hurt my single-threaded performance |
| 04:23.01 | cogwheel | at least the "slower" i7s would still be an improvement |
| 04:23.03 | Gnarfoz | of course, that's the deficit of the c2d/c4q lineup |
| 04:23.32 | Gnarfoz | but since i7 and i5 both require a new socket from your (and my) PoV... waiting for Sandy Bridge it is |
| 04:23.48 | Gnarfoz | (which also requires a new socket, way to go, Intel) |
| 04:24.29 | Arrowmaster | there was no way to avoid the new socket for the i7/i5 |
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| 04:24.47 | Arrowmaster | but the having two different sockets for i7 was a way to go intel |
| 04:25.17 | Gnarfoz | wasn't talking about 775->1336/1156 (or whatever) |
| 04:25.22 | Gnarfoz | but about 1156->1155 |
| 04:25.26 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 04:25.41 | Arrowmaster | whats the 1155 for? |
| 04:25.44 | Gnarfoz | and i7 changes sockets, too! |
| 04:25.53 | Gnarfoz | sandy bridge i5s |
| 04:26.34 | Gnarfoz | shit 1 hour of sleep left in this night |
| 04:26.41 | Gnarfoz | not good:P |
| 04:27.03 | Jerub | i'm so glad i decided to not upgrade |
| 04:27.16 | Arrowmaster | i went from an athlon xp to an i7 |
| 04:27.21 | Arrowmaster | i couldnt wait much longer |
| 04:28.58 | Dagmar | AM3. :) |
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| 04:30.31 | Gnarfoz | ...was also something we had to wait for for quite a while. |
| 04:31.04 | qwert908 | hey anyone willing to give me some help with new auctioneer? im completely clueless about one thing |
| 04:32.00 | qwert908 | anyone know how to make the notifiction for each new item listed to batch post go away in the new beta? |
| 04:32.54 | Arrowmaster | not possible if you are talking about what i think you are |
| 04:33.07 | qwert908 | its something new in this latest patch. |
| 04:33.25 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:33.33 | qwert908 | used to be you just ctl+alt+shift and click batch post and a few min later it was all done. |
| 04:33.44 | Dagmar | You can't do that anymore. |
| 04:33.50 | qwert908 | now you have ot click through a new screen like the DE portion of the addon. |
| 04:34.13 | qwert908 | you know if there are any plans to make this an optional feature. i have been unable to find any reference to it on the AUC site |
| 04:34.23 | Dagmar | Blizzard no longer allows someone to attempt to monopolize and rebid all markets with one click. |
| 04:34.30 | Dagmar | There will be no "plans" to make that "feature". |
| 04:35.51 | qwert908 | i find this rather frustrating. |
| 04:35.57 | Dagmar | That's a shame. |
| 04:35.57 | qwert908 | oh well. |
| 04:36.16 | Dagmar | Looks like you'll just have to spend a few minutes clicking to list a crapload of different things. |
| 04:36.30 | Dagmar | Oh the horrible, horrible work conditions. |
| 04:37.16 | Dagmar | There's a thing called a stock market. I hear they're very into gambling there. |
| 04:37.30 | Dagmar | ...and when they fuck it all up, it hurts no one at all. |
| 04:37.41 | Dagmar | You should give it a go. |
| 04:37.52 | Arrowmaster | you get better odds in vegas |
| 04:40.48 | Dagmar | Yeah but there it doesn't mess with anyone else's day |
| 04:41.26 | Dagmar | When market traders fuck up and lose all their money, they just get their friends to get them bailout money and it's all good |
| 04:41.36 | Dagmar | Vegas puts you on a bus. |
| 04:41.55 | Dagmar | Doing it in WoW turns other people's game into a second fucking job they didn't want. |
| 04:42.16 | Amarande | Dagmar: Vegas is kind enough to put you on a bus now? |
| 04:42.16 | Arrowmaster | nah in vegas they give you free drinks and a free room if you lose enough |
| 04:42.17 | TMc51 | Dagmar: Vegas doesn't put you on a bus. They sell you to the cartells, who work you to death then bury you in a shallow grave in the desert. |
| 04:42.27 | Dagmar | \...becuase they'd be playing EVE. |
| 04:42.32 | Amarande | Wow, they're going soft. Used to be they took you out to the desert. :) |
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| 04:43.34 | Dagmar | Desert's getting full and the cops prices are going up |
| 04:44.05 | Dagmar | You may or may not have heard about Ms. Paris Hilton getting stone cold busted for cocaine possession this month. |
| 04:44.15 | Dagmar | The lack of hearing about it has a lot to do with money. Ahem. |
| 04:44.18 | qwert908 | dagmar your just pissed because on your server someone had the liquid assets to buy up all the things you needed then posted them for twice market in stacks of one |
| 04:44.26 | qwert908 | all in less then a minute |
| 04:44.37 | Dagmar | qwert: No, I just know a shithead goldfarmer when I see one. |
| 04:44.48 | qwert908 | ha ha ha |
| 04:44.55 | Dagmar | I don't *need* a damn thing from the game. |
| 04:45.05 | Amarande | people who post shit in stacks of one piss me off |
| 04:45.07 | qwert908 | so why r u so angry? |
| 04:45.08 | Dagmar | I *object* to the monetizing of it, and the secondary crime that results from it |
| 04:45.22 | Dagmar | qwert: Because I"m not legally allowed to hunt your kind for sport, yet |
| 04:45.55 | Amarande | especially when you want to level enchanting and you need more mats than your tailoring DE gave you and there you go having to go click, buy, are you sure yes, click, buy, are you sure yes ... ad nauseam |
| 04:45.56 | qwert908 | and if you dont need anything from the game then why is it such a touchy subject... why dont you go play..... rose online or something |
| 04:46.05 | qwert908 | or wizards 101 lol |
| 04:46.09 | Dagmar | qwert: Make me, little man |
| 04:46.18 | Corrodias2 | LOL PLAY A FUN GAME? WE GOT WOW! |
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| 04:46.49 | Dagmar | 'cept some pissants like to keep screwing with it, and supporting a criminal enterprise based on malware, keyloggers, and fraud. |
| 04:47.04 | Dagmar | Which, entertainingly, I get paid a lot of fucking money per hour to clean up after, when I can stomach it |
| 04:47.09 | qwert908 | lol! i know right. why would i play a fun game when i canhae a secondjob |
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| 04:47.58 | Dagmar | Exactly! Why should I take money to ruin people's botnets if I could go hunt people down for lulz! |
| 04:48.05 | Corrodias2 | to be fair, WoW is the most interesting MMO i've seen. to be fair, i haven't seen very many. |
| 04:48.37 | Amarande | Dagmar: never mind the malware, keyloggers, and fraud |
| 04:48.39 | qwert908 | lol. dagmar. you know. i think you take your digital world a bit too seriously |
| 04:48.43 | Amarande | that sort of stuff goes to fund things like the Triads |
| 04:48.54 | Amarande | where there's more important concerns, like kidnapped women |
| 04:48.55 | Dagmar | qwert: I think you fail to take your fellow man seriously enough. |
| 04:49.07 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'm aware |
| 04:49.12 | Corrodias2 | "it's entertainment; nobody else's fun matters!" |
| 04:49.16 | qwert908 | how do you know im a man? |
| 04:49.23 | Dagmar | Amarande: I still have hookups in the intel community telling me shit I don't want to hear |
| 04:49.30 | Corrodias2 | lame; try again, qwert908 |
| 04:49.38 | Corrodias2 | one freebie comeback redo. |
| 04:49.38 | Dagmar | qwert: You have a point, I've yet to see anything like manly behaviour out of you. |
| 04:49.40 | qwert908 | lol |
| 04:49.52 | Kraps | epic strawman there qwert |
| 04:50.19 | Dagmar | Amarande: I quit reading Jane's, but I still drink with these people because I'm a masochist |
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| 04:50.31 | Amarande | All knowledge is worth having, Dagmar. |
| 04:50.51 | Dagmar | I'd like a good night's sleep every once in awhil |
| 04:51.02 | Dagmar | At least I know I'm in a safe part of town |
| 04:51.16 | spychalski | does anyone have any starting tutorial or resource site for first steps on wow ui development? i currently work with lua in my uni (which actually created it -- puc-rio) |
| 04:51.27 | Dagmar | Seriously dude, there's only so many times a month you can read about people moving ICBMs and shit around before it really starts to get to you |
| 04:51.58 | Arrowmaster | ~wowprogramming |
| 04:51.58 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 04:52.05 | spychalski | thanks! |
| 04:52.16 | spychalski | cladhaire is awesome too |
| 04:52.17 | Kraps | Dagmar: i've sworn off reading as much news as i can get away with, its really relaxing |
| 04:52.32 | Arrowmaster | spychalski: all the wow api reference is there, get the book if you want a good tutorial |
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| 04:52.58 | qwert908 | dagmar i have a serious doubt that you have ever dont anything that has to do witha security clearence. |
| 04:53.18 | spychalski | price is kinda off for me, a lil' steep converting to brazilian real, so i'll just keep it to the online resources for now =) |
| 04:53.41 | Arrowmaster | spychalski: wowwiki has some but they are all horribly out of date |
| 04:53.41 | qwert908 | you may read alot on the internet but i have to say that wikipedia isnt the best place to get your stories about clandestine operations.... and nither is tom clancy |
| 04:54.05 | spychalski | Arrowmaster exactly why i got in this channel, everything is from 2006 or something. |
| 04:54.11 | spychalski | so live help would be most helpful |
| 04:54.17 | Kraps | ban inc... |
| 04:55.26 | Arrowmaster | spychalski: since you already know lua your in a good position, if you need any help with specifics of stuff just ask in here |
| 04:55.41 | spychalski | awesome. thanks |
| 04:56.18 | amro | ~stab Arrowmaster |
| 04:56.19 | purl | ACTION runs at Arrowmaster with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 04:58.08 | cogwheel | bleh... |
| 04:58.31 | cogwheel | i really wish i could choose my up/down ratios for at&t uverse (essentially DSL) |
| 04:58.35 | Kraps | hey cog |
| 04:58.38 | cogwheel | hai |
| 04:58.50 | amro | cogwheel: upload faster! |
| 04:58.52 | cogwheel | 18mbit/s down is nice |
| 04:58.56 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: dont say essentially, it IS dsl |
| 04:59.06 | Kraps | i love watching husky |
| 04:59.06 | cogwheel | but only 1.5 up (maybe even 1.0) |
| 04:59.30 | Arrowmaster | wow thats weak |
| 04:59.44 | amro | husky is fun but he needs to stop making a guy cleaning up a base long after the game is decided sound exciting |
| 04:59.44 | Arrowmaster | i could get that if i paid $10 more a month for cable |
| 05:00.23 | qwert908 | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
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| 05:00.46 | Kraps | not sure what you're saying amro |
| 05:01.03 | amro | Kraps: as soon as the action starts he goes into hypermode |
| 05:01.04 | amro | until the gg |
| 05:01.23 | amro | its almost as if he can't see that one guy has already won |
| 05:01.27 | Mirrored | day9 is casting some CSL games right now ^_^ |
| 05:01.39 | Kraps | thats what makes him great amro |
| 05:01.56 | amro | don't get me wrong, I like the blow by blow |
| 05:02.04 | amro | but when it's over, it's over |
| 05:02.29 | cogwheel | amro: husky, hd, and some others are more like sports announcers |
| 05:02.35 | amro | it just sounds silly when he's like "What's he gonna do?" and there's 30 marauders wiping out his base |
| 05:02.38 | cogwheel | (which is their strength) |
| 05:02.48 | amro | he's going to gg that's what |
| 05:03.10 | amro | im a big fan of seth killian style commentary |
| 05:03.12 | cogwheel | their goal isn't to educate with most of their casts |
| 05:03.15 | amro | or ken bogard |
| 05:03.20 | amro | I know |
| 05:03.27 | amro | that's why they don't pause :P |
| 05:03.44 | amro | it's supposed to be exciting, but no amount of shouting is going to make a game that's obviously over more exciting |
| 05:04.46 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: wiki says you must have uverse max plus if youve got 18mbit/s down, so youve got 1.5 up, if you had max turbo youd have 3 up |
| 05:05.17 | spychalski | imo hd's and husky's casts are much more shallow compared to day9's casts tho, usually, as a newbie rts player, i learn a lot more with day9 |
| 05:05.52 | amro | they're shallow because they're not trying to be deep |
| 05:06.06 | amro | it's more of a sit back and relax and watch some sc2 kind of cast |
| 05:06.08 | spychalski | yep |
| 05:06.09 | Mirrored | are you talking about day9 actually casting, or day9 dailies? |
| 05:06.11 | amro | rather than get your notebook and start taking notes |
| 05:06.17 | spychalski | Mirrored i'm talking about both |
| 05:06.25 | Mirrored | well they're totally different -.- |
| 05:06.33 | spychalski | so my mom shut down her pc while i was sshd in. fail. =\ |
| 05:06.34 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: last time i checked turbo wasn't available for me. might've changed tho |
| 05:07.02 | cogwheel | also lol re: their understanding of the word "max" |
| 05:07.52 | Mirrored | anyway, the thing that makes day9 casting better than other casters is not necessarily *education*, but insight |
| 05:07.55 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzJwVg_xHhI#t=4m40s love this commentary |
| 05:08.05 | Dagmar | Mirrored: day9? You've said this a few times and I'm not getting a clue from context |
| 05:08.26 | Dagmar | Oh wait. Pfft. One googles I have used now. |
| 05:08.28 | Dagmar | Nevermind me |
| 05:08.29 | Mirrored | huh? |
| 05:08.40 | Dagmar | I remember what day9's about now |
| 05:09.20 | Mirrored | the thing is, when you have day9 cast, he tells you what to worry about, what to watch for, and what's important, and he's right |
| 05:09.38 | Mirrored | and that lets you get into the game more, without necessarily having to "take notes" |
| 05:09.44 | Kraps | amro: huge comeback :) |
| 05:09.49 | amro | yeah, amazing |
| 05:09.52 | amro | TKD is awesome |
| 05:10.15 | amro | not sure if you noticed, but the only reason he was alive at all was because ojisanboy missed his combo |
| 05:10.19 | amro | one mistake, just one mistake |
| 05:10.20 | amro | bam |
| 05:12.23 | Kraps | are there SF commentary in english? |
| 05:12.43 | amro | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJ0ypV87KmA#t=1m40s even more epic |
| 05:12.45 | amro | yes there are |
| 05:12.52 | amro | but all english casters except seth killian suck |
| 05:12.58 | amro | and seth killian only shows up at like EVO |
| 05:13.36 | Kraps | haha sick |
| 05:13.55 | amro | yeah even bogard can't hold himself |
| 05:14.15 | amro | he was basically going "yes yes you can do it" |
| 05:17.08 | cogwheel | Mirrored: the fact that you were driven to make a distinction between education and insight saddens me greatly... |
| 05:17.36 | Mirrored | why? I don't get that at all |
| 05:17.38 | cogwheel | education is worthless without insight |
| 05:17.40 | cogwheel | imo |
| 05:17.51 | Mirrored | well, sure |
| 05:18.01 | cogwheel | education implies insight |
| 05:18.04 | Mirrored | but that's not what I was talking about, at all |
| 05:18.09 | cogwheel | except in reality |
| 05:18.12 | amro | you can't go in depth without pausing |
| 05:18.17 | amro | just not possible |
| 05:18.24 | amro | which is why day9 dailies are like 12 hours long |
| 05:18.29 | Mirrored | wat |
| 05:18.31 | amro | but sometimes you just want to watch some sc2 |
| 05:18.37 | Mirrored | I'm talking about day9 *casting* |
| 05:19.01 | Mirrored | day9's casts are much different than his dailies, that was my point the whole time |
| 05:19.03 | amro | never seen that so can't comment |
| 05:19.42 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 05:20.01 | Mirrored | cogwheel, you haven't seen day9 *cast* either? |
| 05:23.10 | amro | it's not like he casts on national tv |
| 05:26.01 | Kraps | they should |
| 05:26.09 | Kraps | instead of golf |
| 05:27.31 | Mirrored | his brother casts on national TV in korea ^_^ |
| 05:27.40 | amro | yeah, because korea is awesome |
| 05:27.43 | cogwheel | he's trying to make it popular here |
| 05:27.51 | Mirrored | indeed |
| 05:28.06 | cogwheel | they should make eESPN |
| 05:28.08 | amro | wtb EVO on tv |
| 05:28.22 | amro | although it was on g4, but that doesn't really count |
| 05:28.59 | Mirrored | well, anyway, in my opinion, Day9 is the best caster of matches, hands down - he's much more energetic when casting a match as opposed to analyzing it (like on his dailies), but he matches that energy with accurate and relevant insight |
| 05:29.01 | Kraps | thats a great idea cog |
| 05:29.29 | Mirrored | he's doing MLG DC this weekend |
| 05:29.52 | amro | hd and husky are still way ahead of most american sf casters |
| 05:29.57 | amro | who just dick around on the mic for no reason |
| 05:30.02 | Mirrored | mmm, yeah, I'll give you that |
| 05:30.08 | Mirrored | hd and husky are good |
| 05:30.26 | amro | there was this match, I think the commentator was going like |
| 05:30.35 | amro | "oh, roundhouse! oh, backdash!" |
| 05:30.38 | amro | so bad |
| 05:31.45 | Mirrored | the only other casters I've heard that are as good or better than hd and husky are artosis, tasteless, and d.apollo |
| 05:31.55 | Mirrored | everyone else I've heard are a step down |
| 05:32.15 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUOOFsmaHQQ <3 |
| 05:32.22 | amro | gama no abura, awesome dude |
| 05:33.16 | Kraps | lol |
| 05:45.43 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C0F_aVAnFUt=1m50s |
| 05:45.46 | amro | just as funny know as ever |
| 05:45.55 | amro | love the annotations |
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| 05:49.56 | Kraps | wth are the annotations saying? |
| 05:50.22 | Amarande | you know I just realized that I have to feel bad for hunters in their 60s who only had exotic pets when the patch came :| |
| 05:50.40 | Amarande | they may have literally logged in to no usable pet |
| 05:50.55 | amro | Kraps: they're counting how many uppercuts he does |
| 05:50.59 | amro | hits:total |
| 05:51.11 | amro | the announcer's like, random uppercuts aren't going to work |
| 05:51.20 | amro | and JR (ironfist) starts spamming them just to prove him wrong |
| 05:51.23 | amro | hilarity ensues |
| 05:51.31 | Kraps | and no one is countering |
| 05:51.38 | amro | yeah, shellshocked |
| 05:51.45 | amro | I think it's a great insight into mindgames |
| 05:51.56 | amro | JR is good, so they have trouble adjusting to the fact that he's playing like an idiot |
| 05:52.30 | amro | my favorite part: "part of me thinks that ironfist can still win this using a random tiger uppercut..." |
| 05:55.07 | Kraps | lol at the announcer getting pissed |
| 05:55.34 | amro | yeah |
| 05:55.38 | amro | failure imo |
| 05:55.53 | amro | that's hands down the most hilarious play I've ever seen |
| 05:56.07 | amro | and I just love the crowd reactions |
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| 06:05.41 | Torhal | BTW: Any WoWI staffer that can change the Survival Guide - I've updated Ackis Recipe List to work with 4.0.1 |
| 06:06.04 | Torhal | (with the exception of being hijacked by removed Glyphs which weren't specified in the patch notes) |
| 06:06.21 | Jerub | where are all the auras documented? |
| 06:15.47 | Fisker | haste |
| 06:15.51 | Fisker | i need to ask you something important |
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| 06:16.49 | Torhal | ~asktoask |
| 06:16.49 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:17.52 | Jerub | Torhal: i lolled. |
| 06:18.53 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 06:27.39 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 06:27.43 | Fisker | i didn't ask to ask |
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| 06:29.13 | Torhal | :D |
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| 06:42.32 | spychalski | is there a way to register an event using the wowlua addon, without creating the files and restarting wow? |
| 06:44.20 | cbreak_work | wow only registers new files on start |
| 06:44.33 | zenzio | "I jumped out of my chair yesterday when I hit the Play button to check on something in the game. This isn't an intended heart-rate check and we're looking to get it fixed in an upcoming patch." - lol |
| 06:44.34 | cbreak_work | you can change files and load them with /console reloadui |
| 06:44.43 | cbreak_work | but the TOC and the file list is only loaded on first start |
| 06:45.26 | spychalski | good to know. all i need is a base file and i'm set :D |
| 06:45.46 | Wobin | zenzio: it shocked the hell out of me =P |
| 06:46.00 | zenzio | Wobin: I'd heard talk of it, so I was prepared, but it seemed rather loud |
| 06:53.04 | ccox | dalaran -- 40 fps in windowed mode (just short of full screen), 6 fps full screen.... I think they have a bug |
| 06:53.42 | zenzio | O_o |
| 06:53.47 | zenzio | that sounds pretty backwards |
| 06:54.12 | amro | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 07:01.38 | Zhinjio | anyone know of a replacement for SnowfallKeypress? |
| 07:02.01 | Zhinjio | or if someone's going to pick up maintenance on that? |
| 07:02.47 | zenzio | SnowfallKeypress? |
| 07:04.00 | Zhinjio | ja |
| 07:04.02 | Zhinjio | http://bit.ly/9DoFQS |
| 07:05.06 | Zhinjio | guildie is asking about it. Looks like the dev has been MIA since febuary |
| 07:05.11 | Zhinjio | february, rather |
| 07:05.46 | Jerub | February if you actually want to spell it right. ;) |
| 07:05.49 | Jerub | it's a proper noun |
| 07:06.00 | cbreak_work | I wouldn't use an addon from lybia |
| 07:06.04 | cbreak_work | who knows what's in that file |
| 07:06.18 | Zhinjio | Jerub: you're right. heh |
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| 07:25.51 | industrial | see this is what I hate about bittorrent |
| 07:26.07 | industrial | it uses HTTP for the blizz update for like 20MB's and then that dies |
| 07:26.29 | industrial | then I just keep uploading at 10 times the speed I get data from bittorrent |
| 07:26.44 | industrial | fuck off man, give me what I give back >:( |
| 07:27.08 | industrial | not the other way around, make me give then maybe give something back |
| 07:27.12 | industrial | wtf kind of system is that |
| 07:27.36 | industrial | if I've been uploading 50kbps for half an hour I need half an hour of that right back. that's fair. |
| 07:27.37 | Trela | Usually it is because of a poorly configured router. |
| 07:27.59 | industrial | Do elaborate. |
| 07:28.21 | Trela | Using their BitTorrent setup I usually download at 2mbs and upload only 500mbs. |
| 07:28.45 | Trela | Erm. |
| 07:28.51 | Trela | 500kbps. :P |
| 07:28.52 | zenzio | wow, China is really taking this Nobel Peace Prize thing very seriously |
| 07:28.56 | Trela | However, if I reset my router to defaults, it will suck and only download at 256kbps. |
| 07:29.05 | Jerub | http://www.adafruit.com/adablog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/foradafruit.jpg |
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| 07:29.46 | industrial | how is it ever making 20 connections and downloading at 6kbps |
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| 07:30.31 | industrial | (btw, ports are open for Bittorrent on my router and I don't use packet shaping or other throttling and im the only one downloading in the house now) |
| 07:30.50 | Yssaril | industrial: at least the new launcher gets decent download speeds so we dont have to deal with the crappy background downloader anymore after this |
| 07:30.54 | Jamash | ok so I read that creating HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU\NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers as a REG_DWORD set to 0x1 would keep windows from rebooting without asking me |
| 07:31.01 | Jamash | it didn't work |
| 07:31.17 | industrial | xD |
| 07:31.19 | Jamash | this is the *second night in a row* that windows has rebooted on me WHILE I WAS PLAYING WOW |
| 07:31.30 | Jamash | the first time was in an instance group |
| 07:31.34 | industrial | turn off any kind of downloading/updating automatically ? |
| 07:31.41 | zenzio | do you let Windows Update install the updates automatically? |
| 07:31.43 | jnwhiteh | Has anyone noticed anything weird with event registration/onEvent? |
| 07:31.52 | Jamash | yes |
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| 07:31.59 | Jamash | clearly that is a mistake |
| 07:32.07 | industrial | yes. :p |
| 07:32.12 | zenzio | if it's giving you a lot of trouble, I'd consider letting it only download them |
| 07:33.00 | Jamash | setting changed |
| 07:33.05 | Jamash | god damn microsoft |
| 07:39.46 | industrial | How do I set the port on the blizzard downloader |
| 07:39.51 | industrial | its saying im walled |
| 07:40.18 | industrial | apparently 'enable peer to peer' is enough to set :| |
| 07:40.41 | industrial | anyone got the .torrent on this so I can use a nonretarded client? :) |
| 07:40.52 | cbreak_work | you do |
| 07:41.09 | cbreak_work | it's inside the downloader .app bundle |
| 07:41.14 | industrial | BackgroundDownload.torrent ? |
| 07:41.19 | cbreak_work | (If you are on a mac) |
| 07:41.22 | cbreak_work | think so, yes |
| 07:41.23 | industrial | (I'm not) |
| 07:41.24 | industrial | k |
| 07:41.28 | cbreak_work | I've never used it |
| 07:43.21 | industrial | haste: http://i.imgur.com/jw4bC.jpg |
| 07:51.52 | Quaunaut | So, if OnUpdate isn't an event, what is it? |
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| 07:53.59 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: ping. |
| 07:54.00 | jnwhiteh | Seems to be uncompatible currently with SRaidFrames. If I turn Clique on, SRaidFrames vanishes and doesn't work. If I turn it off, SRaidFrames works... enough. Not perfectly, wonders of a new patch, but they seem to be having compatibility issues. If you could look into this I would greatly appreciate it!! |
| 07:56.11 | jnwhiteh | its a widget 'script' with an associated 'handler'. |
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| 08:06.25 | zenzio | http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/13/political-pictures-americans-2/ |
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| 09:06.44 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:36.53 | jnwhiteh | okay, can I have two volunteers that have EU accounts? |
| 09:36.55 | jnwhiteh | haste: mikma? |
| 09:39.30 | jnwhiteh | or anyone? |
| 09:39.55 | cbreak_work | kind of at work... |
| 09:40.20 | jnwhiteh | yeah, fair =( |
| 09:40.27 | jnwhiteh | just _sucks_ trying to sort this out |
| 09:40.31 | Elkano | clad? |
| 09:40.35 | jnwhiteh | the only way I can make it happen by myself is by joining a bg |
| 09:40.37 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: yeah |
| 09:40.50 | Elkano | more info ^^ |
| 09:40.57 | jnwhiteh | what info? |
| 09:41.03 | jnwhiteh | EU Emerald Dream |
| 09:41.07 | jnwhiteh | alliance |
| 09:41.14 | Elkano | new char sufficient? |
| 09:41.18 | jnwhiteh | yeah should be |
| 09:41.38 | jnwhiteh | i'm in IF |
| 09:41.41 | jnwhiteh | if you wanna run to me |
| 09:41.43 | jnwhiteh | not taht we need that |
| 09:41.59 | ZorbaTHut | jn, note that you can always make a trial account to, uh, play with yourself |
| 09:42.27 | jnwhiteh | my computer is having issues running wow once at the moment =) |
| 09:42.32 | ZorbaTHut | ah, fair 'nuff :) |
| 09:42.35 | nev-mobile | Trials cant join raids anymore i thought |
| 09:42.46 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: i'm derwyff |
| 09:42.47 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 09:42.50 | jnwhiteh | derwfydd |
| 09:42.52 | jnwhiteh | mofo. |
| 09:42.53 | jnwhiteh | derwyff. |
| 09:42.56 | ZorbaTHut | characters under lv10 can't either, but apparently a new character is good enough :) |
| 09:42.56 | jnwhiteh | oh jesus. |
| 09:43.01 | jnwhiteh | i'm going to stab someone. |
| 09:43.03 | jnwhiteh | Derwydd. |
| 09:43.05 | jnwhiteh | there. |
| 09:43.07 | jnwhiteh | that's my name. |
| 09:43.09 | nev-mobile | Lol |
| 09:44.08 | jnwhiteh | I wasn't concerned about this until people reported the same thing happening with sRaidFrames |
| 09:44.20 | nev-mobile | Really? |
| 09:44.37 | nev-mobile | I didnt do any raiding yet |
| 09:44.43 | nev-mobile | Bg or otherwise |
| 09:45.21 | nev-mobile | And on beta where i dev'ed it i didnt have clique..mmm |
| 09:46.12 | jnwhiteh | i had no issues this morning |
| 09:46.15 | jnwhiteh | but its been reported |
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| 09:49.40 | Olison | Any alternative to or continuation of Speedy Actions? :S |
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| 10:21.31 | angayelle | hai people |
| 10:22.12 | angayelle | can someone have in http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141574-3vxa i'm started to be very sad to not find my problem, it seems it doesn't check the glyphs right |
| 10:24.03 | Adys | angayelle: because your indent is messed up |
| 10:24.06 | angayelle | a look in |
| 10:24.16 | angayelle | pleasssssse tell me |
| 10:24.38 | Adys | angayelle: im having a huge headache reading your code |
| 10:24.52 | Adys | move the shared code to a helper function, fix the indent and stuff |
| 10:24.54 | angayelle | yeah i'm not that proud of it |
| 10:25.38 | angayelle | noob quesion inc, what do you mean by indent ? |
| 10:25.49 | amro | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.50 | amro | that whitespace |
| 10:26.11 | sylvanaar_work | plugs his code formatter in IntelliJ |
| 10:26.34 | angayelle | ok i'll look into that, thanks alot |
| 10:26.37 | amro | sylvanaar_work: quick question |
| 10:26.46 | amro | sometimes idea lags a lot when I edi |
| 10:26.53 | amro | like 200ms lag between keystroke and effect |
| 10:26.59 | amro | any ways to improve on that? |
| 10:27.21 | sylvanaar_work | yeah...but I am trying to hit version 1.0 first - ya know |
| 10:27.33 | amro | im not sure its specifically the lua module |
| 10:27.53 | sylvanaar_work | well, you can also run Lua in RubyMine or PyCharm |
| 10:28.03 | sylvanaar_work | or one of the other smaller IDE's |
| 10:28.15 | sylvanaar_work | though those are pay IDE's atm |
| 10:28.21 | amro | yep |
| 10:28.39 | amro | I like this little idea+lua combo |
| 10:28.43 | sylvanaar_work | they have been explaining to me what all I need to do to make my own standalone ide |
| 10:28.52 | sylvanaar_work | its ALOT of work |
| 10:29.03 | sylvanaar_work | but, i might do it next year |
| 10:29.28 | amro | any chance you can make it automatically unindent on "end" and "else" etc? |
| 10:29.31 | sylvanaar_work | but yeah, im glad you like the current version - its pretty usable, and it will get better |
| 10:29.34 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 10:29.39 | sylvanaar_work | thats what I am working on now |
| 10:29.43 | amro | oh, sweet |
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| 10:30.33 | sylvanaar_work | I think as soon as that is done im releasing 0.9 |
| 10:30.52 | sylvanaar_work | then all thats left is the refactorings, intentions, and inspections for 1.0\ |
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| 10:32.19 | amro | there are also some smaller details, but not a big deal |
| 10:32.23 | amro | for example if you have this |
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| 10:32.50 | amro | t = {}; function t:foo() [blah] the t in the method definition can't be control-clicked |
| 10:33.09 | sylvanaar_work | unless its local? |
| 10:33.27 | sylvanaar_work | right now globals cant be ctrl clicked |
| 10:33.41 | amro | oh |
| 10:33.46 | amro | yeah that's probably it |
| 10:33.51 | sylvanaar_work | let me give it a try |
| 10:34.17 | amro | nope, same deal with local |
| 10:34.42 | sylvanaar_work | hm, you are at 0.8.21 right? |
| 10:35.11 | amro | checking |
| 10:35.25 | amro | yep |
| 10:35.29 | sylvanaar_work | okies |
| 10:35.34 | amro | (I updated last night) |
| 10:36.06 | amro | it's not really a priority issue though imo, I just mentioned it since I noticed it |
| 10:36.47 | sylvanaar_work | well, working reference resolution is a major feature that should be completed before 0.9 |
| 10:37.49 | jnwhiteh | do we like swatter or bugsack/buggrabber? |
| 10:38.12 | sylvanaar_work | amro, it worked for me |
| 10:38.52 | amro | I'd go with sackgrabber |
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| 10:39.01 | sylvanaar_work | bugsack |
| 10:39.06 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: I never used swatter, so I "like" bugsack/buggrabber |
| 10:40.14 | sylvanaar_work | amro: local a = {} ; a:foo()[abs] = 1 if i click the a in a: foo it jumps to local a |
| 10:40.58 | amro | that bit works here, yes |
| 10:41.01 | jnwhiteh | anyone have a snippet that can extend the number of scrollback lines in the chatframe? |
| 10:41.03 | amro | hold on, let me see if I can break it :P |
| 10:41.04 | jnwhiteh | i need to do some debugging. |
| 10:41.52 | sylvanaar_work | amro there was a major fix to all that very recently - so perhaps it was just you were on an older version |
| 10:42.03 | amro | sylvanaar_work: it's the function t:a() end syntax that breaks it |
| 10:42.13 | dafire | hmm... did something was changed in ouf in the last few days that might break my frames so they are invisible ? :) |
| 10:42.30 | sylvanaar_work | ah |
| 10:42.32 | sylvanaar_work | ok |
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| 10:42.36 | sylvanaar_work | let me see |
| 10:43.09 | sylvanaar_work | amro: local a = {} ; function a:b() end ? |
| 10:43.17 | amro | yep |
| 10:43.24 | sylvanaar_work | that works for me as well |
| 10:43.55 | amro | not me |
| 10:44.01 | amro | are you on some cutting edge version? |
| 10:44.03 | sylvanaar_work | hmm.... |
| 10:44.17 | amro | possibly you only fixed it locally and didn't push the changes? |
| 10:44.43 | sylvanaar_work | lol im on version 0.8.18 |
| 10:44.49 | sylvanaar_work | hold on |
| 10:44.59 | Grum | what are you working on? :D |
| 10:45.26 | sylvanaar_work | Lua IDE |
| 10:45.47 | Grum | url? :D |
| 10:46.05 | sylvanaar_work | amro, you are right, its a regression |
| 10:46.17 | sylvanaar_work | it works in .18 but not .21 |
| 10:46.46 | amro | Grum: bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home |
| 10:47.31 | sylvanaar_work | well thats upsetting |
| 10:48.15 | sylvanaar_work | i know why its happening too |
| 10:48.35 | sylvanaar_work | because i fixed function a() end not defining a |
| 10:50.29 | sylvanaar_work | languages are tricky |
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| 10:51.15 | sylvanaar_work | i need to make sure when it defines a:b, that it doesnt redefine a |
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| 10:52.08 | amro | could be worse |
| 10:52.13 | amro | you could be parsing C++. |
| 10:52.22 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:52.46 | Grum | or worse, perl |
| 10:52.49 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 10:52.58 | Grum | good luck doing that ;) |
| 10:53.11 | sylvanaar_work | lua is simple to parse -but static analysis is tricky |
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| 10:55.51 | sylvanaar_work | what turned out the be a major win was not to try to recreate a grammer for Lua but to use the interpreter to build my AST |
| 10:56.17 | sylvanaar_work | well the compiler |
| 10:57.06 | sylvanaar_work | even though it doesnt actually create an ast |
| 10:58.40 | sylvanaar_work | it does cause some trouble though with things like function foo() return a return b return c end |
| 10:58.48 | Computerpunk_ | Grum, lisp/ |
| 10:58.49 | Computerpunk_ | :p |
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| 11:03.26 | Grum | lisp is trivial to parse tbh |
| 11:03.31 | Grum | nothing as regular as that |
| 11:03.49 | Grum | for perl, only perl can parse perl but not in perlcode ;) |
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| 11:09.33 | industrial | see and i come back HOURS LATER |
| 11:09.39 | industrial | and my wow update is at 25% |
| 11:09.43 | industrial | shit downloader >:| |
| 11:10.06 | industrial | and its still uploading at twice my download speed |
| 11:10.10 | industrial | fair much? no. |
| 11:10.10 | A-KO | I hope denying doesn't make it to the final dota 2 :( |
| 11:10.20 | Grum | industrial: just get the patch from a mirror? |
| 11:10.44 | A-KO | industrial: how about don't throttle the background downloader? |
| 11:10.51 | A-KO | and also |
| 11:10.52 | A-KO | next time |
| 11:10.56 | A-KO | don't wait until PATCH DAY to update |
| 11:11.06 | A-KO | They've released this patch over the course of over a month in stages |
| 11:16.29 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I had like 300mb left to download on patch day. it went faster than installing did |
| 11:21.42 | Grum | installing the x.x.x->4.0.0 was just horrid, rewriting 24gb of data in mpq files ... |
| 11:21.54 | A-KO | for some reason my wow dir is like 27GB :P |
| 11:22.17 | A-KO | I might do a fresh install with Cata |
| 11:26.16 | industrial | remembers we were like 'omg 3gb thats a lot' at 60 |
| 11:26.18 | industrial | or was it 5 |
| 11:26.29 | industrial | s/60/classic/ |
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| 11:35.05 | cbreak_work | my next incremental backup will take ages :/ |
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| 11:51.06 | zenzio | "Now Blizzard, its time to see that u have royaly SCREWED us prot warriors. You came with promises that tanking would be even esier then before but what i see is a pure clusterfu..." |
| 11:51.17 | zenzio | tanking should be easier? What, enter instance, do nothing, get gold? |
| 11:51.38 | mikma | our palatank whined that he can't keep aggro anymore |
| 11:51.43 | mikma | i told him he's not doing it right |
| 11:52.22 | zenzio | whatever things are like now, it's the "promises that tanking would be easier" part I'm puzzled about |
| 11:54.15 | cbreak_work | my dps rose by about 50% yesterday |
| 11:54.20 | cbreak_work | and I lost 40% threat reduction |
| 11:54.26 | cbreak_work | I am not surprised tanks have problems with their job |
| 11:54.56 | Grum | i dont see why people are whining so hard |
| 11:55.03 | Grum | yes its unbalanced, yes it will be fixed |
| 11:55.10 | Grum | now wait a little instead of whining and all will be ok |
| 11:55.13 | zenzio | Grum: they're probably just sitting around in the queue and have nothing else to do |
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| 11:55.30 | Grum | time for them to become emo |
| 11:55.31 | zenzio | I must confess I had fun sitting in trade chat last night fueling their fire |
| 11:55.45 | Grum | well some of them have valid points |
| 11:55.53 | zenzio | of course some do |
| 11:55.55 | Grum | even spriests atm are rather overpowered with the critchanges in SWD |
| 11:55.56 | zenzio | but the majority didn't |
| 11:56.11 | Grum | though it comes at a high price of self damage which then falls on the healers |
| 11:56.12 | zenzio | I was a bit surprised by my health increase |
| 11:56.17 | Grum | but using SWD now is scary |
| 11:56.23 | Grum | 5 casts and i die O.o |
| 11:56.34 | Grum | 20k crits on unbuffed lvl83 bosses |
| 11:56.48 | Grum | and you get hit back for 10k |
| 11:57.08 | zenzio | what was it someone said about the SWD glyph... |
| 11:57.14 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:57.26 | Grum | -25% and 'no kill of swd' and the cooldown resets |
| 11:57.30 | cbreak_work | I have had 36k self buffed crits vs. bosses |
| 11:57.47 | Grum | yeah i just stood at a dummy and spammed SWD |
| 11:57.49 | cbreak_work | with arcane blast |
| 11:57.51 | Grum | and killed myself nearly instantly |
| 11:57.59 | cbreak_work | sounds fun :) |
| 11:58.05 | Grum | well mages will get fucked over hard soon |
| 11:58.09 | cbreak_work | why? |
| 11:58.13 | cbreak_work | we're massive dps |
| 11:58.17 | Grum | not siting at 80% crit anymore |
| 11:58.23 | cbreak_work | I have 27% |
| 11:58.38 | Grum | yes but your spells are way higher through talents etc |
| 11:58.42 | Grum | and procs |
| 11:58.55 | Grum | regular mages in 277 gear have an avg crit of 70+ orso |
| 11:58.56 | cbreak_work | they removed the talents :/ |
| 11:58.59 | Grum | yeah |
| 11:59.03 | Grum | luckily ;) |
| 11:59.03 | cbreak_work | I don't have that gear |
| 12:00.24 | jnwhiteh | wow. Grid rapes my computer |
| 12:00.31 | jnwhiteh | like massive penile violation. |
| 12:03.33 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17983-cc5.html |
| 12:03.39 | zenzio | training dummies never interested me... maybe because I'm a tank :-| |
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| 12:04.08 | Computerpunk_ | mikma, <_< |
| 12:04.12 | Computerpunk_ | Lua configuration? |
| 12:04.17 | Computerpunk_ | won't that rape Curse Client? |
| 12:04.17 | Computerpunk_ | XD |
| 12:04.18 | mikma | you don't need it anyway |
| 12:04.29 | mikma | the addon is one of those "just works" addons |
| 12:04.41 | Computerpunk_ | I see. |
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| 12:05.40 | Computerpunk_ | how much of just work? |
| 12:05.42 | Computerpunk_ | works* |
| 12:05.47 | jnwhiteh | mikma: I don't WANT to use Grid |
| 12:06.04 | mikma | then stop doing it ye evil bastard |
| 12:06.14 | Computerpunk | the Blizzard one looks decent. |
| 12:06.17 | Computerpunk | but doesn't fit my UI. |
| 12:06.22 | Computerpunk | especially the textures. |
| 12:08.05 | Computerpunk | Incompabitibilities between Clique and UnderHood. |
| 12:08.06 | Computerpunk | wat. |
| 12:08.55 | mikma | whats underhood anyway |
| 12:09.54 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: ? |
| 12:10.04 | jnwhiteh | What issues are there between Clique and UnderHood |
| 12:10.04 | Computerpunk | unitframes |
| 12:10.08 | jnwhiteh | and what the hell IS UnderHood. |
| 12:10.10 | Computerpunk | I've been reported so. |
| 12:10.15 | Computerpunk | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/under-hood.aspx |
| 12:10.23 | Computerpunk | I've yet to test it since I don't use Clique. |
| 12:10.39 | Computerpunk | That's what it is, lol. |
| 12:12.09 | jnwhiteh | Are you integrating with Clique? |
| 12:12.27 | jnwhiteh | if so, where is that code? |
| 12:12.57 | Computerpunk | I'm not using any integration. |
| 12:12.57 | amro | what's the function for /dump? (dumping stuff from an addon) |
| 12:13.03 | Computerpunk | As it's only Player/Pet/Target windows. |
| 12:13.12 | Computerpunk | Therefore, I can't see where the loss is. |
| 12:13.17 | Computerpunk | I'll install Clique and check myself. |
| 12:13.20 | Computerpunk | Will report afterwards. |
| 12:13.53 | mikma | amro: exactly that |
| 12:14.08 | amro | mikma: /dump dump shows dump is nil |
| 12:14.32 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: makes no sense that clique would have anything to do with UH, it's self-contained. |
| 12:14.41 | Computerpunk | That's what I was thinking. |
| 12:14.43 | mikma | cause dump is a slashcommand for function |
| 12:15.07 | amro | er, what? |
| 12:15.11 | Computerpunk | Probably frames with the same name? |
| 12:15.26 | amro | I mean, what's the actual function that /dump calls |
| 12:15.35 | amro | I want to do dump(stuff) from an addon |
| 12:15.37 | amro | for debugging |
| 12:17.05 | Computerpunk | Highly unlikely, but worth a try. |
| 12:17.10 | mikma | amro: DevTools_DumpCommand(msg) |
| 12:17.43 | mikma | amro: better to load the tools first |
| 12:17.51 | mikma | amro: UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_DebugTools") |
| 12:18.02 | amro | thanks |
| 12:20.56 | mikma | i <3 <3 <3 afterpatch whining |
| 12:21.07 | mikma | absolutely priceless |
| 12:22.01 | Computerpunk | yeah. |
| 12:22.02 | Computerpunk | hutners op |
| 12:22.05 | Computerpunk | hunters* |
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| 12:24.31 | industrial | So I'm uninstalling software from windows (xp) |
| 12:24.35 | industrial | it's taking more then an hour |
| 12:24.54 | industrial | pingpingpingpingpingpingping are you sure are you sure are you sure? |
| 12:25.22 | mikma | sure, why not |
| 12:25.22 | Computerpunk | ahahaha |
| 12:25.28 | industrial | and the software is too dumb to see there will be no file conflicts and remove multiple things at the same time / in one operation |
| 12:25.39 | industrial | so i can't just do it all in one go as I would with a COMPETENT OS. |
| 12:25.51 | Computerpunk | Like Mac OS-X? |
| 12:25.59 | industrial | like linux. |
| 12:26.14 | industrial | (or macosx with homebrew) |
| 12:27.29 | mikma | hhahaha |
| 12:27.39 | mikma | "well atleast the water looks better" |
| 12:27.43 | mikma | go trade |
| 12:27.47 | mikma | in the sea of whining |
| 12:27.55 | industrial | "Gathering required information..." |
| 12:28.07 | industrial | whats there to gather? list of files, rm -rf BOOM GONE |
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| 12:29.37 | industrial | back to his cave, it's to easy to piss on windows. |
| 12:29.59 | Computerpunk | I LOVE IT. |
| 12:30.01 | Computerpunk | No more arrows. |
| 12:30.09 | Computerpunk | ammo as a whole. |
| 12:30.10 | Computerpunk | whatever |
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| 12:35.35 | alestane | Yay they just went ahead and posted the UI files. |
| 12:37.02 | Jamash | that's one way of doing it |
| 12:37.26 | |Jelly| | pounces on Peppy! |
| 12:37.49 | alestane | lets Peppy up to get pounced on. |
| 12:38.17 | Jamash | https://code.google.com/p/jamash/ >_> |
| 12:39.41 | Computerpunk | <3 |
| 12:41.13 | Computerpunk | I need a coffee. |
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| 12:46.34 | luigithekid | Quick question, is there a Cata supported Satrina Buff Frames replacement? |
| 12:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Morning Jelly and alestane. |
| 12:48.46 | industrial | Lopeppeppy: Quick answer, did you look? if you didn't find anything on curse and wowi then probably not! |
| 12:48.49 | industrial | luigithekid: ^ |
| 12:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | I was gonna say. *POKE* :) |
| 12:49.16 | industrial | =) hai |
| 12:49.50 | spychalski | i'm getting my ass kicked while trying to make an ouf layout :P |
| 12:50.21 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, OUF is very not for the faint at heart. |
| 12:50.22 | Computerpunk | l2doUIs while downloading patches |
| 12:50.33 | |Jelly| | So, I guess "Rolling Restarts" equated to "Offline" and "No more than 15 minutes" equated to "Soon" :| |
| 12:50.42 | Computerpunk | http://i.imgur.com/CmIR5.jpg |
| 12:50.44 | Computerpunk | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 12:50.49 | Computerpunk | wrong channel |
| 12:50.49 | Computerpunk | -_- |
| 12:50.51 | spychalski | i'm just going to change the lily layout until i get what i want |
| 12:51.57 | Computerpunk | nevermind my link, k? |
| 12:56.56 | mikma | computerpunk: just link it to haste and everything is fine |
| 12:57.22 | Computerpunk | what's up with linking that to him/ |
| 12:57.23 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 12:57.41 | Computerpunk | Dunno why I'd rather not know tho. |
| 12:58.15 | mikma | computerpunk: he always gets my links |
| 12:58.39 | Computerpunk | <_> |
| 12:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | He's very popular. |
| 13:00.00 | mikma | also very funny |
| 13:00.20 | Lopeppeppy | Also fluffy!! |
| 13:00.25 | Computerpunk | wat. |
| 13:00.33 | Computerpunk | what about my afro? |
| 13:00.36 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 13:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | Haste is more fluffier. |
| 13:01.21 | Lopeppeppy | He's also very persuasive. |
| 13:08.55 | Jamash | I'm wondering what the right channel was |
| 13:09.19 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not sure there is one... |
| 13:10.30 | Kraps | there is no channel |
| 13:10.44 | TC-Away | yes |
| 13:10.49 | TC-Away | a 4chan channel |
| 13:12.15 | spychalski | gah! |
| 13:16.41 | Thunder_Child | âI want to build a website that appeals to the Amish people.â |
| 13:17.32 | spychalski | but then how do you get pageviews?! |
| 13:18.11 | alestane | "All US realms are temporarily unavailable do to an unforeseen technical issue." |
| 13:18.21 | Kraps | heavy http://kotaku.com/5663410/steam-to-introduce-digital-trade+ins |
| 13:18.44 | Thunder_Child | alestane: i think everyone but blizzard saw it |
| 13:19.29 | alestane | Everyone foresaw that there would be one? Probably; probably even Blizzard foresaw that part. But that's useless information. |
| 13:20.02 | alestane | Unless you know which one it's going to be, there's not much you can do with that. |
| 13:20.07 | Jamash | an unforeseen technical fuckup |
| 13:20.13 | spychalski | unforeseen technical issues: things are on fire |
| 13:20.57 | Jamash | remember the time their data center got hit by a tornado? |
| 13:21.09 | Thunder_Child | spychalski: no, thats on purpose |
| 13:21.37 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: they have more than one |
| 13:21.47 | Jamash | it was during beta, it was the only one |
| 13:22.21 | Kraps | Civ 5 is getting patched |
| 13:22.23 | Thunder_Child | they still have more than one datacenter |
| 13:22.27 | nevcairiel | unforeseen technical issues .. like, if they could've seen them coming, they would've done something about it, duh |
| 13:22.35 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: i think he means original beta |
| 13:22.48 | Lopeppeppy | Someone spilled coffee on the server. Someone's cat peed on the server. Someone blew up the servers. |
| 13:23.01 | Jamash | it was during beta, it was... is there an echo in here? |
| 13:23.15 | Kraps | a nerf ball got stuck in a server fan |
| 13:23.48 | spychalski | someone chmod -x chmod'd the server |
| 13:24.15 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: would they have cats in there? |
| 13:24.32 | Jamash | mkdir './-rf ' |
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| 13:25.25 | Jamash | hmm, how to get rid of it |
| 13:25.36 | Jamash | rm -rf / |
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| 13:25.40 | Lopeppeppy | To keep the server ferrets in line. |
| 13:25.41 | Jamash | yep, it's gone |
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| 13:26.01 | spychalski | rmdir =p |
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| 13:26.21 | alestane | If it's "Bring Your Pet to Work" day they might. |
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| 13:28.02 | Jamash | http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/22339 |
| 13:28.11 | Jamash | still looking for the pics they posted |
| 13:29.08 | Computerpunk | lol failure |
| 13:29.16 | Kraps | somehow i cant imagine they would have a "Bring Your Pet to Work" day around a huge patch day :p |
| 13:29.33 | mikma | hahahaha |
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| 13:30.23 | mikma | so is that for all us servers? |
| 13:30.25 | mikma | or just beta |
| 13:30.34 | Jamash | the tornado was in 2004 |
| 13:30.35 | Computerpunk | beta |
| 13:30.36 | alestane | Right now? |
| 13:30.46 | mikma | right, 2004 ^^ |
| 13:32.21 | Kraps | Jamash: whyd you link that :/ |
| 13:32.36 | Jamash | because? |
| 13:32.43 | mikma | he's a cock. |
| 13:32.47 | mikma | with a huge prick |
| 13:32.47 | spychalski | coming back up |
| 13:32.59 | Lopeppeppy | In theory. |
| 13:33.03 | Jamash | spychalski>unforeseen technical issues: things are on fire |
| 13:33.05 | Jamash | Jamash>remember the time their data center got hit by a tornado? |
| 13:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know why people get so worked up over downtime after a major patch, it always happens that there's unforseen technical issues. |
| 13:33.27 | Kraps | didnt see that |
| 13:33.37 | Computerpunk | inb4 everyone got trolled |
| 13:34.14 | mikma | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27187855935/press-play-gong/ |
| 13:34.22 | Jamash | GONGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 13:34.43 | Jamash | kil'jaeden isn't up but other servers are |
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| 13:34.48 | Jamash | qq |
| 13:34.54 | Kraps | Computerpunk: too late |
| 13:34.58 | mikma | QQ'jaeden |
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| 13:35.33 | Jamash | ok, KJ is up |
| 13:35.34 | Jamash | all is good |
| 13:38.22 | Kraps | any civ vets here? what do you think of civ 5? |
| 13:38.43 | Ackis | 2k sucks Kraps |
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| 13:40.12 | nudave | damn peer. |
| 13:41.13 | nudave | I've played civ since the original...haven't bought civ 5 yet. I thought civ 3 was better than 4. |
| 13:41.41 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: it doesnt hit my amazeometer like civ 2 did |
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| 13:41.53 | Thunder_Child | which is prolly a good thing |
| 13:42.03 | unfo- | nudave, civ3 > civ4 ==> true |
| 13:42.04 | Thunder_Child | since civ 2 sucked away so much of my time |
| 13:42.27 | Thunder_Child | dont forget there are 2 versions of civ4 from different developers |
| 13:42.32 | Ackis | civ 5 is nice, albeit a bit of a resource hog |
| 13:42.39 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: there are? |
| 13:42.47 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 13:42.57 | Ackis | there are a lot of new nice features in civ 5, but I miss a few of the old things |
| 13:42.58 | Thunder_Child | though it's not called civ 4 |
| 13:43.11 | Ackis | I thought there were two civ 3's not 4's |
| 13:43.24 | Ackis | call to power? |
| 13:43.35 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 13:43.47 | Kraps | i loved call to power |
| 13:43.48 | coren | is there any documentation how to query wowinterface about an addon (version, md5)? I assume Minion doesn't parse the addon pages :> |
| 13:44.02 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: that's civ 3 then isn't it? |
| 13:44.11 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: so it is |
| 13:44.24 | Ackis | Ackis: 1, Thunder_Child: 0 |
| 13:44.26 | Ackis | VICTORY |
| 13:44.28 | Ackis | :P |
| 13:44.29 | Computerpunk | Ackis, wat? |
| 13:44.32 | Computerpunk | you doing here? |
| 13:44.41 | Computerpunk | get back to coding |
| 13:44.42 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 13:44.42 | Kraps | the described even the future tech as if it actually existed |
| 13:44.45 | Ackis | am I not allowed to be here? |
| 13:44.57 | Computerpunk | Also, take my author from WARAchievementthing |
| 13:45.10 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: although civ 3 came out 2 years after call to power |
| 13:45.23 | Ackis | Computerpunk: PM me about your issues you've been having over the past week or so now that I'm around for a few days :P |
| 13:45.33 | Computerpunk | Uhm. |
| 13:45.36 | Computerpunk | I kinda fixed them. |
| 13:45.36 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 13:45.55 | Ackis | kk |
| 13:46.00 | Computerpunk | UnderHood author responded, I'm not picking up InterruptBar anymore aaand ilu. |
| 13:46.07 | Ackis | ilu2 |
| 13:46.19 | Computerpunk | See? |
| 13:46.21 | Computerpunk | I proved you faggot. |
| 13:46.29 | Ackis | I kept getting your PM's a few days apart and nothing was making sense, plus I was in a waking turkey coma |
| 13:46.33 | Ackis | like that's hard to do :P |
| 13:46.33 | jnwhiteh | yeah, not a fan of that kind of talk, Computerpunk. |
| 13:47.05 | Computerpunk | hehe. |
| 13:47.17 | jnwhiteh | I type !ruby too much |
| 13:47.18 | Computerpunk | In short I was telling you that InterruptBar author was not responding. |
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| 13:47.25 | jnwhiteh | to run my bnet authenticator |
| 13:47.37 | Computerpunk | UnderHood's one was just PMed about the Addon. |
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| 13:54.59 | Kraps | Tales of Monkey Island Complete Pack $4.99 |
| 13:55.01 | spychalski | hmm how do i set the 'monochrome' flag on some fonts? |
| 13:56.01 | spychalski | nvm found it! :D |
| 13:56.30 | Computerpunk | :( |
| 13:56.39 | Computerpunk | no more AotDH |
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| 14:00.22 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://mikma.eu/misc/IMG_4440.JPG /cockslap |
| 14:00.56 | Computerpunk | whoa shit |
| 14:00.56 | jnwhiteh | lol? |
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| 14:01.44 | Kraps | ? |
| 14:02.01 | mikma | jnwhiteh: did you even notice that i asked ingame that "guess what's happening outside?" |
| 14:02.13 | dardack | can anyone help with UIDROPDOWNMENU, before when i created a butto, the function on click called a function, inside that function it used to be local gid = this:GetID(), this no longer works, says this is nil, if i change this to self, it's still nil. How do i fix this? |
| 14:02.36 | mikma | dardack: function(self) self:GetID() end |
| 14:02.47 | dardack | i tried that |
| 14:02.51 | jnwhiteh | mikma: no, i'm not paying attention |
| 14:02.56 | mikma | yeah |
| 14:03.02 | dardack | i'll make a pasty bin second |
| 14:03.03 | mikma | so busy |
| 14:03.09 | Computerpunk | what realms are you guys on? |
| 14:03.25 | Computerpunk | Executus EU here. |
| 14:03.29 | mikma | i seem to be in alonsus at the moment |
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| 14:04.20 | nudave | lets try this instead :x |
| 14:04.42 | dardack | ok here is pasty: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141584 |
| 14:04.47 | alestane | *snark* |
| 14:04.56 | dardack | and in game this is error: lua:505: attempt to index local 'button' (a nil value) |
| 14:04.59 | alestane | "Tip: Click on the Lightwell!" |
| 14:05.16 | Coren{de} | line 14, add self before button |
| 14:05.24 | Coren{de} | 13, not 14 |
| 14:05.31 | mikma | dardack: i would try OnClick(self,button) first |
| 14:06.31 | dardack | so send 2? |
| 14:07.19 | mikma | dardack: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141585/13 |
| 14:07.24 | Coren{de} | besides, the UIDropDownMenu_AddButton is done in the initializer, not in OnLoad... |
| 14:08.08 | dardack | yes but mikma info.func = LWIW_Options_ThresholdDropDown_Menu_OnClick(self); only sends self |
| 14:08.50 | dardack | and <OnLoad> |
| 14:08.52 | dardack | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.53 | dardack | </OnLoad> |
| 14:08.55 | dardack | crap sorry |
| 14:09.00 | dardack | i just called it onload |
| 14:09.43 | Coren{de} | oh, lol... line 5, remove everything after the function name |
| 14:10.17 | Coren{de} | the way you do it, it tries to call the return value of the function, not the function |
| 14:10.59 | dardack | in what way? |
| 14:11.22 | dardack | i mean when i looked up uidropdownmenu few years ago, you added text function then added that button |
| 14:11.31 | Coren{de} | 5 info.func = LWIW_Options_ThresholdDropDown_Menu_OnClick; |
| 14:11.45 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/41b27aad39485bc49cc94fa9d0b67aa6.png |
| 14:12.06 | Lopeppeppy | sexy honor, jnwhiteh. |
| 14:12.07 | Coren{de} | you want to set a function pointer into info.func, and that's just the function' |
| 14:12.10 | Coren{de} | s name |
| 14:12.15 | jnwhiteh | keeps happening. |
| 14:12.31 | Adys | lua_bot: (1219 - 812) / 194 |
| 14:12.32 | lua_bot | Adys: 2.0979381443299 |
| 14:12.34 | dardack | wait |
| 14:12.39 | dardack | are you saying i just need to remove the () |
| 14:12.49 | Coren{de} | that's one part, yes :) |
| 14:12.53 | dardack | yea it works |
| 14:12.55 | dardack | WTF |
| 14:13.05 | dardack | ok explain why removing the () makes self:GetID() work |
| 14:13.11 | dardack | and it worked before 4.0.1 |
| 14:13.25 | Adys | lua_bot: (903 - 598) / 194 |
| 14:13.25 | lua_bot | Adys: 1.5721649484536 |
| 14:14.08 | Adys | lua_bot: -(1219 - 2089) / 968 |
| 14:14.08 | lua_bot | Adys: 0.89876033057851 |
| 14:14.12 | Coren{de} | I can only say that's how it's done, not why it sometimes works otherwise also ;) |
| 14:14.15 | Adys | grm |
| 14:14.23 | Computerpunk | lua> 42-1 |
| 14:14.24 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: 41 |
| 14:15.33 | Coren{de} | lua> x = format("Speed increase 310% vs. 280%: %.2f ", (410 - 380) / 380); return x |
| 14:15.33 | lua_bot | Coren{de}: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 14:15.44 | Computerpunk | string.format pl0x |
| 14:15.46 | Coren{de} | lua> x = string.format("Speed increase 310% vs. 280%: %.2f ", (410 - 380) / 380); return x |
| 14:15.46 | lua_bot | Coren{de}: luabot:1: invalid option '%v' to 'format' |
| 14:15.51 | dardack | Coren TYVM, if i had known it was as simple as removing () |
| 14:15.52 | dardack | sigh |
| 14:15.56 | Coren{de} | lua> x = string.format("Speed increase 310%% vs. 280%%: %.2f ", (410 - 380) / 380); return x |
| 14:15.56 | lua_bot | Coren{de}: Speed increase 310% vs. 280%: 0.08 |
| 14:16.11 | Coren{de} | lua> x = string.format("Speed increase 310%% vs. 280%%: %.2f %%", 100 * (410 - 380) / 380); return x |
| 14:16.12 | lua_bot | Coren{de}: Speed increase 310% vs. 280%: 7.89 % |
| 14:16.23 | Adys | lua> ("Speed increase 310%% vs. 280%%: %.2f "):format((410 - 380) / 380) |
| 14:16.23 | lua_bot | Adys: Speed increase 310% vs. 280%: 0.08 |
| 14:16.24 | jnwhiteh | This is the page that is loading on when I try to reput my bindings in - and no matter WHAT I do, I cannot get it to change. |
| 14:16.24 | jnwhiteh | http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2446/cliquefuckup.jpg |
| 14:16.27 | jnwhiteh | what a collosal asshole |
| 14:16.32 | jnwhiteh | 'cliquefuckup.jpg' |
| 14:16.40 | jnwhiteh | and completely ignoring the Lua error that was thrown |
| 14:16.44 | jnwhiteh | and not listening to a fuckign word I say. |
| 14:16.54 | jnwhiteh | why do I try to interact with Curse users again? |
| 14:17.05 | jnwhiteh | I wish they didn't live up to their fucking stereotype.. but. |
| 14:17.07 | Nechckn | That is totally rediculous |
| 14:17.08 | industrial | I just got a pm on curse |
| 14:17.09 | Adys | because you're young, and naive |
| 14:17.19 | industrial | "U UPDAET FOR 4.0???" |
| 14:17.21 | Adys | and your eyes glow wide and smiling |
| 14:17.24 | jnwhiteh | I am neither young, nor naive =) |
| 14:17.39 | Adys | then you're a fool |
| 14:17.49 | Thunder_Child | 'glow wide'? |
| 14:18.00 | Adys | just like your sister |
| 14:18.11 | Nechckn | ridiculous even! |
| 14:19.17 | Computerpunk | how to remove |
| 14:19.20 | Computerpunk | the xp gain texts? |
| 14:19.22 | Computerpunk | from blizzard? |
| 14:19.34 | Computerpunk | I've tried an xDamageFont hackfix with blank font. |
| 14:19.36 | Computerpunk | no dice. |
| 14:20.13 | Nechckn | industrial those posts totally irk me to no end. |
| 14:20.57 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://www.trueachievements.com/a67030/another-day-another-win-achievement.htm and http://www.trueachievements.com/a67035/sprite-slam-dunk-showdown-achievement.htm |
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| 14:21.41 | industrial | Nechckn: I just never reply. Somehow I had a curse account enabled. |
| 14:22.59 | Nechckn | Oh... the PMs I nearly always ignore, since I would rather answer one in a post than 20 in the PM system. Same for WoWI, in that case. |
| 14:23.28 | Nechckn | I just love the "Do you know this is broked?" type of posts, after like ten saying the same thing. |
| 14:24.04 | industrial | maybe if I reply with the same, it will make the auhor notice! |
| 14:24.07 | Nechckn | And those after the post explaining that "Part X is broken, buy Y, Z, et al are good" and we are working on it. |
| 14:24.18 | Nechckn | Lol... I think that is the idea. |
| 14:25.08 | Coren{de} | I wouldn't assume that those posts are based on an actual idea, like... from the mind'n'stuff :> |
| 14:25.54 | Coren{de} | I find derails worse though, esp. in the beta forums :| |
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| 14:28.04 | dardack | i stopped updating my curse mirrors from wowinterface |
| 14:28.13 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: Halo: Reach will release a map pack on November 30th. Adding 250 Gamerscore and 3 new maps for 800MSP ($10). :( |
| 14:28.50 | Ackis | olafski: http://www.trueachievements.com/ArtFull+Olafski.htm there was a huge db crash and whatnot, looks like you were re-added (if you care :P) |
| 14:30.49 | dardack | well ty for help back to work or something like that |
| 14:31.38 | dardack | and sigh wish I had know once over 4k you can't earn more, just wasted 136 on weekly turn in |
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| 14:46.17 | Sarjan | hi all, is Cladhaire here? |
| 14:46.36 | Hirsute | shakes fist |
| 14:46.39 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: ^^ |
| 14:46.45 | Hirsute | Windows:1, Hirsute:0 |
| 14:47.10 | industrial | Sarjan: yes, jnwhiteh. |
| 14:47.49 | Hirsute | I have a habit (admittedly a bad one) of using notepad to store code snippets I'm tweaking when working with things like the Chrome JavaScript Console where multiline editing is a pain in the rear. |
| 14:48.04 | industrial | Do it in Vim! |
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| 14:48.15 | Hirsute | industrial: I should have |
| 14:48.53 | Hirsute | I perfected my code snippet last night, went to bed, and woke up this morning to find that windows had installed updates overnight and restarted my computer, dumping my unsaved code snippet. |
| 14:49.05 | Nechckn | I, too, am guilty of the notepad pastey... |
| 14:49.27 | Hirsute | Though, I wonder... |
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| 14:49.46 | Hirsute | Hooray! Chrome JS console still has my history. |
| 14:49.49 | Hirsute | Snippet preserved. |
| 14:50.17 | luigithekid | Quick question, whats the ingame command to specify the uiscale by a number? |
| 14:55.16 | jnwhiteh | Sarjan: que pasa? |
| 14:55.23 | jnwhiteh | Sarjan: having an issue/ |
| 14:55.37 | Sarjan | not anymore :p |
| 14:55.44 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.51 | jnwhiteh | hehe okay |
| 14:55.56 | jnwhiteh | well let me know if I can help at all |
| 14:56.05 | Sarjan | hmm |
| 14:56.08 | Sarjan | well there's an issue |
| 14:56.12 | Sarjan | not fatal or important |
| 14:56.29 | Sarjan | but pressing "any" key while hovering over a skill with clique tab open binds it to ? |
| 14:56.33 | Sarjan | which is pretty annoying |
| 14:56.45 | Shirik | what's the macro conditional for which spec you're currently in? |
| 14:56.50 | Shirik | isn't it [spec:1] [spec:2]? |
| 14:57.06 | jnwhiteh | Sarjan: Not sure what you mean, pressing T when you've over a spell binds it to 'T'. |
| 14:57.13 | jnwhiteh | are you experiencing something different? |
| 14:57.38 | Sarjan | hmm... i've only seen it happen with one key as i haven't experienced with any other |
| 14:57.52 | Sarjan | that key is º, which is bound to my ventrilo client... that's how i found out |
| 14:57.58 | Sarjan | and it shows up as ? |
| 14:58.12 | Sarjan | but yeah, i've just tested other keys and it works as it should |
| 14:58.21 | Sarjan | actually |
| 14:58.22 | jnwhiteh | Sarjan: I don't think it actually binds to the questionmark key |
| 14:58.23 | jnwhiteh | does it? |
| 14:58.24 | Sarjan | i just found another bug |
| 14:58.32 | jnwhiteh | it should bind to the key.. if WoW supports that key. |
| 14:58.46 | Sarjan | yeah, that works |
| 14:58.47 | Sarjan | but |
| 14:59.04 | Sarjan | (this is something else enterly) if i bind something to... say ctrl+mouse3 |
| 14:59.13 | Fisker | haste |
| 14:59.21 | Sarjan | then bind it to T, then try to delete the T binding, it removes the ctrl+mouse3 binding and not the T one |
| 14:59.38 | jnwhiteh | that really shouldn't be the case |
| 14:59.41 | jnwhiteh | would you mind joining #clque |
| 14:59.43 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 14:59.43 | jnwhiteh | #clique |
| 14:59.47 | jnwhiteh | and i'll look into this |
| 14:59.50 | jnwhiteh | and we'll sort it out. |
| 15:00.02 | Sarjan | sure |
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| 15:05.41 | Adys | kd3: you often set up printers on linux? |
| 15:06.50 | Cide | every day |
| 15:06.58 | Cide | he's a printer collector |
| 15:07.08 | Cide | imo |
| 15:08.09 | Shirik | So I have this folder "Potentially malicious files" with all the stuff uploaded to WoWI that I pulled down and took apart to determine if they're malicious |
| 15:08.48 | Shirik | Today I get this message from windows "Possible threat detected!" and I'm like "how the heck could I have gotten infected" and then I look and it's pointing to something in there |
| 15:08.57 | Shirik | I'm like "ok that file's been there for like a year now you JUST figured it out?!" |
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| 15:09.26 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:09.43 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:09.59 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks |
| 15:10.20 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik. |
| 15:10.48 | Cide | Shirik: that's awesome |
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| 15:11.11 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 15:11.14 | Cide | it means you can slack on the virus updates I guess |
| 15:11.21 | Nechckn | pets Zhinjio |
| 15:11.23 | Cide | since it takes a year before it even scans 'new' files |
| 15:11.34 | Shirik | well to be fair the files I pull down typically scan clean |
| 15:11.40 | Shirik | We do several steps |
| 15:11.45 | Cide | or alternatively they are a year behind with the virus information updates |
| 15:11.46 | Shirik | basic scans and if that's clean we start tearing it apart |
| 15:11.46 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:12.01 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 15:12.06 | Shirik | this is why I don't use virus scanners, they're always behind (they have to be, they're a reactive solution not a proactive one) |
| 15:12.16 | Cide | except for their pro heuristics |
| 15:12.46 | Shirik | which tends to delete my homework |
| 15:12.46 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:12.52 | Cide | good homework |
| 15:13.09 | Nechckn | Wait... like at all, Shirik?? |
| 15:13.10 | Shirik | nope |
| 15:13.10 | Shirik | I think I've said this before |
| 15:13.10 | Kraps | ahaha a blatant penis joke in Planet 51 |
| 15:13.10 | Cide | he scans the binaries himself |
| 15:13.12 | Nechckn | new to me, fella |
| 15:13.12 | Zhinjio | doesn't either. |
| 15:13.15 | Shirik | I don't believe in virus scanners |
| 15:13.29 | Shirik | The #1 reason people get infected is because they're stupid |
| 15:13.37 | Zhinjio | ^^ |
| 15:13.39 | Cide | and #2 is not scanning the binaries in a hex editor |
| 15:13.53 | Cide | trust me, I never do that and I have gotten infected |
| 15:13.58 | Shirik | That's why I was surprised when I saw that alert, I couldn't think of any way it could have happened |
| 15:14.13 | Shirik | and then I realized it was just complaining about a file I knew about already :P |
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| 15:14.39 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:15.10 | Nechckn | So, you rip every thing apart that comes in to you? For basic email trash and the like, it must take a long time to read mail and work presentations, et al. |
| 15:17.16 | alestane | Someone just asked in Trade Chat "what is cataclysm" |
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| 15:18.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:19.18 | Computerpunk | alestane, epic troll |
| 15:20.08 | Shirik | Cide |
| 15:20.18 | Shirik | After worknig with Python for a few weeks, let me tell you this |
| 15:20.26 | Shirik | the only reason I might like python is because of list comprehensions |
| 15:20.31 | Shirik | I still hate the rest of it |
| 15:20.34 | zenzelezz | apparently this debate never gets old... http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/14/135219/Proving-0999-Is-Equal-To-1 |
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| 15:22.24 | Shirik | ha |
| 15:22.25 | Shirik | (0.999...)st Post! |
| 15:22.34 | alestane | Except that most of the proofs depend on specific representations...the debate is really more a product of the inability to correctly represent 1/3 in decimal. |
| 15:22.44 | alestane | It's just a syntax, Shirik. |
| 15:23.14 | alestane | It's charmingly streamlined, but I also find I'm liking Go quite a bite now. |
| 15:23.25 | alestane | bit* |
| 15:23.49 | alestane | If only it had a decent GUI API. |
| 15:24.01 | Zhinjio | ha |
| 15:24.08 | Zhinjio | out of context, I thought you meant the game. |
| 15:24.16 | Zhinjio | which had me really interested |
| 15:24.18 | Zhinjio | but anyway |
| 15:24.27 | Lopeppeppy | Geeky geek arguments are geeky, I guess. |
| 15:24.36 | alestane | I've played Go a couple of times, but wouldn't clai to be proficient in it. |
| 15:24.38 | Shirik | I'm just having trouble accepting this as legal syntax: for element in list[1::]: |
| 15:24.39 | alestane | claim* |
| 15:24.44 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 15:25.11 | Zhinjio | I played very actively for about a year while I was in Vienna last. But not a whole lot since. |
| 15:25.13 | Kraps | alestane: .33333333333333333333...? |
| 15:25.27 | alestane | That's the closest approximation, Kraps. |
| 15:25.34 | Kraps | yeah |
| 15:25.52 | alestane | But it doesn't accurately represent 1/3, it just converges on it. |
| 15:25.59 | Computerpunk | :333 |
| 15:26.14 | Fisker | haste my man |
| 15:26.23 | alestane | Try doing some of the arguments for 0.9 =? 1 in base six, for example. |
| 15:26.42 | zenzelezz | "Amani Berserkers dont have complete hands. " o_O |
| 15:26.44 | jnwhiteh | Hahahaha |
| 15:26.50 | jnwhiteh | if you bind mousewheel up using clique |
| 15:26.53 | jnwhiteh | and you have a macbook pro |
| 15:26.58 | jnwhiteh | its really easy to get like 15 duplicates =) |
| 15:27.02 | Fisker | jnwhiteh not my haste |
| 15:27.29 | Hirsute | Milling yields pigments with set probabilities, yes? |
| 15:27.34 | Maldivia | as in with the trackpad ? |
| 15:27.59 | Maldivia | 2-finger scroll |
| 15:29.34 | Nechckn | We had that included in Enx, Hirsute - no idea if it is changing, though. |
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| 15:30.28 | Hirsute | Nechckn: Aye, I thought it was, but not at a Wow-capable compy at the moment, and thus have no Enx. |
| 15:30.52 | Nechckn | gotcha |
| 15:31.22 | Fisker | haste haste haste haste |
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| 15:35.25 | Hirsute_ | Man this wireless network is the suck today. |
| 15:35.27 | Fisker | haste you will answer me |
| 15:40.58 | TC-Work | amazing. i have one computer with an ip of 192.168.60.10 and browsing to 192.168.60.11\c$ is showing me the C of .10 |
| 15:42.02 | Maldivia | its mac address might have been cached |
| 15:42.14 | Kraps | MOH inc |
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| 15:42.57 | TC-Work | Maldivia: would that impact ping? because the works just fine |
| 15:43.07 | TC-Work | that* |
| 15:43.35 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 15:43.41 | Maldivia | the win fileshare subsystem coukd have it cached |
| 15:44.30 | Maldivia | but cant remember if it caches on ip or just name |
| 15:44.32 | zenzelezz | im in ur cache messin up ur listing |
| 15:44.45 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14870320170&postId=148686742452&sid=1#10 <-buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn |
| 15:45.19 | TC-Work | Maldivia: well hostname it just completely errors out on |
| 15:46.16 | Maldivia | nbtstat -A ip from a console |
| 15:47.15 | haste | Fisker: no |
| 15:48.02 | Ackis | Fisker: remember what I said yesterday? bye friend :( |
| 15:48.16 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 15:48.22 | Fisker | is ouf teh suck? |
| 15:48.26 | Fisker | bye Ackis |
| 15:48.32 | Fisker | hope you got console banned |
| 15:48.55 | Ackis | wwwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 15:49.06 | Ackis | submits reports and proof that Fisker bought his WoW account. |
| 15:49.22 | Fisker | i did |
| 15:49.25 | Fisker | i bought it from a store |
| 15:49.28 | Fisker | in the form of a cd-key |
| 15:49.29 | Ackis | see |
| 15:49.30 | Ackis | proof |
| 15:51.45 | TC-Work | Maldivia: do you know how to flush that? it seems to have the ip exactly backwards assuming i am reading this right....which i many noy be |
| 15:51.50 | TC-Work | not* |
| 15:52.32 | Maldivia | nbtstat -R |
| 15:52.45 | Maldivia | might work |
| 15:53.00 | alestane | "Tip: Don't stand in the fire!" |
| 15:53.26 | Lopeppeppy | Move your feet! |
| 15:54.50 | TC-Work | Maldivia: amazing. that didnt work but it did point me in the right direction. seems the disconnected secondary nic connection had a static .11 |
| 15:54.52 | zenzelezz | helps if you also move the rest of your body |
| 15:54.55 | TC-Work | thanks Maldivia |
| 15:55.21 | zenzelezz | "reforged is the way you get rid of spirit" |
| 15:55.39 | Fisker | is it haste ? |
| 16:00.59 | Yssaril | new this is really cool http://gizmodo.com/5663685/pragues-15th-century-clock-gets-a-21st-century-light-show |
| 16:01.06 | Yssaril | *now |
| 16:01.11 | Computerpunk | shamans |
| 16:01.15 | Computerpunk | dual wield and lava lash at level 10 |
| 16:01.15 | Computerpunk | np |
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| 16:01.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:01.50 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.51 | Computerpunk | that too |
| 16:02.59 | Computerpunk | k |
| 16:03.01 | Computerpunk | I'ma be a faggot. |
| 16:03.01 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:03.03 | Computerpunk | HUNTERS! |
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| 16:03.15 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 16:04.15 | Adys | someone's asking me for help to get rid of a `this` |
| 16:04.17 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/1036952 |
| 16:04.30 | Adys | ive no idea how to fix it since i never use this :p |
| 16:04.36 | Adys | any idea? |
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| 16:05.10 | Lopeppeppy | Computerpunk, please try to use different words, so as not to be offensive. |
| 16:05.13 | durcyn | tell them to bother Zarnivoop, he's in #wowace |
| 16:05.15 | Computerpunk | Yeah. |
| 16:05.17 | Computerpunk | I've been told. |
| 16:05.20 | Computerpunk | Thanks for the notice. |
| 16:05.24 | nevcairiel | usually you would just replace this with whatever coems in as the first argument to the function |
| 16:05.30 | nevcairiel | assuming its passed by the dropdown code |
| 16:05.30 | alestane | When will the OnAccept get called, and will it receive any arguments? |
| 16:06.02 | Coren{de} | I'd change function() into function(this) and see what happens |
| 16:06.09 | alestane | You might be able to change "OnAccept = function()" to "OnAccept = function(this)" and have it work. |
| 16:06.24 | Adys | good call ya |
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| 16:07.48 | Dagmar | evilpig: Wow. Those guys are *SMART* |
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| 16:09.24 | Dagmar | (wrong channel, but commenting on a video where two morons shoot a gun almost straight at the ground near them) |
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| 16:12.33 | Adys | anyone has ever had any luck installing a printer on linux? |
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| 16:15.07 | nicoli_s | you dont install a printer silly |
| 16:15.13 | nevcairiel | Adys: sure |
| 16:15.34 | nevcairiel | just get cups a small kick in the nuts, and it works |
| 16:15.42 | Adys | nevcairiel: gotta go afk; can you link me to some resources by any chance? |
| 16:15.54 | Adys | note: i dont have physical access to the computer |
| 16:15.58 | Adys | (nor ssh) |
| 16:15.58 | Adys | :p |
| 16:16.06 | Adys | just some on the phone support |
| 16:16.06 | Adys | brb |
| 16:16.40 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 16:16.44 | nevcairiel | no shell, no installs |
| 16:17.07 | nevcairiel | usually a distro comes with some graphical tool |
| 16:17.12 | nevcairiel | just plug it in, and it works |
| 16:17.37 | nevcairiel | I've only used the cups web interface myself though |
| 16:17.48 | nevcairiel | or shell |
| 16:17.56 | nevcairiel | can't help with any distro specific things |
| 16:18.00 | Dagmar | Basically, you pray that CUPS works because if it doesn't you're probably better off buying a new printer. ;) |
| 16:18.16 | spychalski | . |
| 16:18.42 | Dagmar | If yer printer doesn't at least do PCL or PostScript or LasetJet 5 protocols as a fallback, you're looking at agony, unending troubleshooting it |
| 16:18.52 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 16:18.53 | Dagmar | LaserJet* |
| 16:18.54 | Coren{de} | pff, cups is only a fancy packing of ghostscript converting postscript into something else :> |
| 16:18.54 | durcyn | not all distros install gutenprint with cups, might need to add those in, Adys |
| 16:18.58 | nevcairiel | but the more common ones do |
| 16:19.18 | nevcairiel | i have some samsung laser printer, there is a proper cups driver for it |
| 16:19.21 | Dagmar | Printing under LInux used to be the #1 reason to go paperless. :) |
| 16:19.41 | nevcairiel | most hp drivers work as well |
| 16:19.43 | nevcairiel | using hplib |
| 16:19.46 | Dagmar | I had >800 diskettes, and exactly two small 3-ring binders of printouts |
| 16:20.17 | Dagmar | I had to write a f**king driver for the Lexmark 4019 laser I had |
| 16:20.56 | Coren{de} | so the Lexmark couldn't just print... |
| 16:21.57 | Dagmar | Coren: It could also make you buy $400 addons to print _marginally_ more complex documents than you did the day before |
| 16:22.15 | Dagmar | So what would you call that other than a f**king problem. ;) |
| 16:23.06 | Zhinjio | still occasionally has nightmares about dealing with SAP print pathways |
| 16:23.10 | Coren{de} | well... http://xkcd.com/90/ |
| 16:23.13 | durcyn | ~seen foxlit |
| 16:23.24 | purl | foxlit <~anonymous@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 16h 8m 43s ago, saying: 'write your own already'. |
| 16:23.24 | Zhinjio | shivers |
| 16:23.27 | Dagmar | comforts Zhinjio |
| 16:23.36 | Zhinjio | we used a product called Dazel |
| 16:23.43 | Zhinjio | which was since absorbed by HP |
| 16:23.47 | Zhinjio | but ... yeah |
| 16:23.48 | Zhinjio | ugh |
| 16:24.00 | Zhinjio | what was the other product that was in the mix... hmm. |
| 16:24.04 | Zhinjio | oh, JetForms |
| 16:24.10 | Zhinjio | twitches |
| 16:24.40 | Zhinjio | 300+ print queues across 30+ manufacturing facilities |
| 16:25.14 | Zhinjio | the way they had it setup, the printers (some of them anyway) would print the barcoded labels that would go on the product, directing it across the manufacturing floor. |
| 16:25.20 | Zhinjio | no labels, no product |
| 16:25.30 | Zhinjio | so print queues going down meant shifts of people were going home |
| 16:25.42 | Zhinjio | I'm going to shut up now |
| 16:25.48 | Zhinjio | because this is seriously freaking me out again |
| 16:26.00 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 16:26.09 | Dagmar | ...and people say IT is easy |
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| 16:27.47 | Fisker | haste you will answer me |
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| 16:29.07 | zenzelezz | <Nightfall Scars>... o_O |
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| 16:31.53 | Ackis | http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/the_edge/dying-girl-taunted-by-neighbors-in-trenton |
| 16:32.01 | Zhinjio | is there a Bad Boy equivalent for in-game mail? |
| 16:32.11 | Zhinjio | I get several a day now. SOOOoooo tired of it |
| 16:33.19 | Dagmar | Ackis: Not enough fatal beatings administered |
| 16:33.43 | Ackis | Dagmar: that article made me sad :( |
| 16:33.49 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:33.55 | Fisker | i hate you because haste doesn't answer me |
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| 16:42.15 | Fisker | haste pl0x |
| 16:43.50 | Coren{de} | anybody happen to have a link to the protocol to query wowinterface about addon version data? |
| 16:45.40 | Coren{de} | my google-fu is insufficient to find it :( |
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| 16:45.48 | nicoli_s | i didnt even know they had such a thing |
| 16:49.37 | Fisker | ok this is messed up |
| 16:50.55 | Fisker | ui thinks i'm not in a guild |
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| 16:51.34 | TMc51 | have you tried relogging? |
| 16:51.57 | Ackis | http://www.industrygamers.com/news/valve-could-be-offering-digital-trade-in-service/ |
| 16:51.57 | Fisker | yep |
| 16:51.59 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
| 16:52.02 | ckknight | have you tried not failing, Fisker? |
| 16:52.09 | TMc51 | Fisker: obvious question, but somebody had to ask it. |
| 16:53.05 | TMc51 | Sweet, trade ins? Goodbye CS:S, DOD:S, HL:DM, and possibly TF2. |
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| 16:53.27 | Dagmar | Betcha right now the execs at GameStop are absoltely frothy about this |
| 16:54.08 | Dagmar | Just because they're deailng with physical media, they can not compete with that |
| 16:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, while that's kind of neat, that kind of just adds support for drm. |
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| 16:58.56 | Nechckn | Fisker that is on live? |
| 16:59.20 | Nechckn | actually have a person with an issue that says they are not in a guild, but they are, so it would be nice to know if it is systemic. |
| 17:01.37 | Jamash | I used to get a "you are not in a guild" message when I logged off but I'm pretty sure that was an addon issue |
| 17:03.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I got that sometimes in the past too, something about the addon calling for information out of proper sequence or something... |
| 17:03.50 | Jamash | sooo I posted a link to my addon kit and they haven't removed it |
| 17:03.54 | nicoli_s | woot! my gf made it to the front page of www.hooping.org |
| 17:04.20 | Jamash | hula hoops? |
| 17:04.30 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:04.30 | nicoli_s | she makes and teaches and performs with them |
| 17:04.41 | Jamash | mmk |
| 17:04.45 | Kraps | really? |
| 17:04.48 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:04.52 | Kraps | makes and teaches and performs |
| 17:04.54 | Nechckn | The one from Hunstville? |
| 17:04.57 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:05.16 | Jamash | is alabama still a state? |
| 17:05.36 | nicoli_s | lol, huntsville is like the coolest place in alabama |
| 17:05.42 | nicoli_s | its mostly tech or engineer people |
| 17:05.47 | Jamash | is that like the coolest place on the sun? |
| 17:06.12 | Jamash | I kid |
| 17:06.19 | nicoli_s | heh, believe me, i hate most of alabama, but huntsville is cool |
| 17:08.12 | nicoli_s | but im just so proud of my GF :) |
| 17:10.03 | Jamash | mah mail |
| 17:10.07 | Jamash | where is it |
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| 17:10.52 | Flowy | hello |
| 17:11.03 | Flowy | how to change timestamp formating in combat log? |
| 17:11.12 | Fisker | Nechckn fixed it by removing all addons then readding them |
| 17:11.13 | Computerpunk | hurrr |
| 17:11.14 | Computerpunk | durrr |
| 17:11.24 | Fisker | anyone know what causes my damn holy power bar to disappear? |
| 17:11.36 | Computerpunk | me. |
| 17:11.45 | nicoli_s | Fisker:you are playing a warlock |
| 17:11.49 | Computerpunk | I used the power of the Red Question Mark on you |
| 17:11.59 | Nechckn | Fisker thanks for the info, it is appreciated. |
| 17:12.10 | Jamash | Flowy: interface options, social |
| 17:13.10 | Flowy | Jamash thanks ... can I change this default timestamps to show milisencods? |
| 17:13.27 | Jamash | what you see is what you get |
| 17:13.34 | Jamash | you'd need an addon for that |
| 17:13.51 | Flowy | it must be saved somewhere |
| 17:14.00 | Flowy | do anyone know where? |
| 17:14.03 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't mean it's accessible without an addon. |
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| 17:14.25 | Coren{de} | timestamps from time() are in seconds, only GetTime() has milliseconds |
| 17:14.58 | Jamash | ~addonkit |
| 17:14.58 | purl | Located at http://tinyurl.com/addonkit the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 17:15.04 | Coren{de} | and GetTime() is relative to system start, so you still need to link time() and GetTime() together |
| 17:15.12 | Jamash | you can download the ui code there |
| 17:15.38 | Flowy | Coren{de} dont need real time in combat log ... |
| 17:17.19 | Arrowmaster | Coren{de}: you cant use GetTime() and time() together |
| 17:17.27 | Jamash | sure you can |
| 17:17.33 | Coren{de} | Arrowmaster, sure I can, lol |
| 17:17.55 | Arrowmaster | well you cant combine them to get a more accurate time() |
| 17:17.59 | Coren{de} | have a fast OnUpdate and check when time() tips over, there's the relative point for GetTime() |
| 17:18.19 | Coren{de} | can improve the exactness by multiple adjustments, it's possible |
| 17:18.23 | Coren{de} | just not worth it :D |
| 17:18.28 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 17:19.27 | Coren{de} | kek, it's not possible and 2+2 = 5 |
| 17:19.59 | Dagmar | Reminder: _Other people's_ clockcycles are free. ;) |
| 17:20.01 | Flowy | ist possible |
| 17:20.02 | cog|sleep | we ordered a bunch of caffeinated candy for blizzcon from thinkgeek and there was a free doodle-track car in the box... one fewer christmas presents to worry about |
| 17:20.53 | Flowy | just get real time on start and assist system time in ms |
| 17:21.25 | Flowy | then get sys time and count it together - def sys time |
| 17:25.37 | Jamash | floor(mod(GetTime(),1)*1000) |
| 17:26.30 | Jamash | mod(GetTime()*1000,1000) |
| 17:26.36 | Jamash | slightly shorter |
| 17:27.20 | Nechckn | cogwheel Free goodies are always so nice- I like their point system, actually, and have found some decent "free" stuff from them. |
| 17:27.33 | Nechckn | two thoughts there, but you get the idea... |
| 17:27.43 | cogwheel | Nechckn: i had a bunch of points but they expired :( |
| 17:28.16 | Nechckn | Ouch - really?!?! |
| 17:28.25 | Nechckn | needs to check on this. |
| 17:28.53 | Nechckn | I did not realize they expired on there, tbh. |
| 17:28.59 | Flowy | Jamash what is modulus? |
| 17:29.11 | Jamash | it's where fractional babies come from |
| 17:29.29 | Jamash | where do you think the average american family gets 0.2 children? |
| 17:29.44 | Nechckn | The stork, silly. |
| 17:30.15 | Nechckn | Same place as the whole ones, but a lot easier for the storks to carry! |
| 17:31.18 | mikma | lololololooo |
| 17:31.25 | mikma | engineer cloak can be used now |
| 17:31.30 | mikma | makes you float around with chute |
| 17:31.41 | cogwheel | Nechckn: yeah, and there were some things i actually wanted |
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| 17:36.14 | Fisker | is there some way to disable the buffs on the wow raid frames? |
| 17:36.33 | Computerpunk | Fisker, Interface -> AddOns? |
| 17:36.33 | Flowy | right click on frame? |
| 17:36.37 | Computerpunk | Game* |
| 17:37.04 | Fisker | nope and nope |
| 17:37.12 | Flowy | do you mean original frames? |
| 17:37.27 | Flowy | which are showed by draging from raid rooster? |
| 17:37.56 | Fisker | the new raid frames |
| 17:38.10 | Flowy | ah dont have patch |
| 17:38.12 | Fisker | can't even drag from the raid roster i think |
| 17:38.15 | Fisker | pirate |
| 17:38.17 | Fisker | yarrrrrr |
| 17:38.32 | Flowy | what? |
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| 17:40.03 | Fisker | hmm |
| 17:40.17 | Fisker | so Blizzard is saying they're not banning singleplayer users |
| 17:40.38 | Fisker | but as a world first they're incompetent enough to not properly automatically detect and kick multiplayer cheaters as has always been the case |
| 17:40.40 | Fisker | ;o |
| 17:44.21 | Flowy | Jamash - on start - v=time()-GetTime(); on update - print(GetTime()+v) ... shows actual time with ms |
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| 17:49.00 | Nechckn | Fisker do you mean multi-boxers in WoW or something else? |
| 17:50.03 | Fisker | multiboxers? |
| 17:50.08 | Fisker | we're talking about Starcraft 2 |
| 17:50.20 | Nechckn | Ahhh.. gotcha! |
| 17:50.30 | Nechckn | uncrosses wires in brain. |
| 17:51.04 | Fisker | multiboxers will get pwnt soon enough |
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| 17:52.23 | Jamash | all they need to do is disable /follow in bgs and arenas |
| 17:53.07 | Nechckn | I thought it was one of those wink and nod type of things- the blues have said it is okay if someone is actually there controlling the "group". |
| 17:53.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Jamash: i'd be kind of okay with /follow being done away with entirely ;) |
| 17:53.31 | Nechckn | I don't really have an opinion on it... suppose if they pay for the accounts and all, no huge loss. |
| 17:53.58 | Jamash | follow can be useful sometimes |
| 17:54.02 | Jamash | just not in pvp |
| 17:54.05 | Fisker | yeah maybe the amount of money they gain from it is ok compared to the people who whine |
| 17:54.15 | Jamash | I assume that's part of the equation |
| 17:54.38 | Jamash | how many people will quit because they got beaten by a multiboxer? not many |
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| 17:55.18 | Jamash | how many multiboxer's subs will they lose if they come down on multiboxing? a lot |
| 17:55.33 | Jamash | because, of course, a multiboxer gets five times as many votes |
| 17:55.33 | Nechckn | I think it is sorta cute to see like 10 shaman all running around. |
| 17:55.52 | Jamash | it's cute up until they all chain lightning you at once |
| 17:55.54 | Nechckn | And have even enjoyed being pwnt by a small group since it was funny |
| 17:56.00 | Nechckn | Yep |
| 17:56.08 | Jamash | or even worse moonkin with treants and starfall |
| 17:57.16 | Nechckn | I have a love/hate thing with the moonkin "moan/howl" - if it is from your side, it's like go get 'em! But when you see a few running after you, making that noise, it can actually be scary. |
| 17:58.15 | Lopeppeppy | HAWNK! is what moonkins say. |
| 17:59.30 | olafski | ackis: >_< |
| 18:07.41 | ckknight | Lopeppeppy: honk honk. |
| 18:09.18 | alestane | It's been years since I did AQ20. Is Rajaxx untankable or something? |
| 18:10.52 | Ackis | olafski: I was just giving you a heads up since you were super against that site |
| 18:11.28 | Lunessa | When I raid AQ, well I know just who I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the man who's raiding AQ with you. |
| 18:11.29 | Torhal | Ackis: What site? |
| 18:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | shivers at Lunessa. |
| 18:11.54 | alestane | Not on Bloodhoof you're not likely to be, Lunessa. |
| 18:12.20 | Lunessa | alestane: This is true. But since iTunes just played my Proclaimers CD the joke was rolling in my head. |
| 18:12.27 | alestane | I got through all the waves without too much trouble, but Rajaxx kept ignoring my felguard and coming after me, and I can't take that kind of heat. |
| 18:12.30 | olafski | not against the site ackis, just against being on it without ever subscribing :P |
| 18:12.47 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, our group tried to gkeep the NPC around to tank him. :) |
| 18:12.50 | Lunessa | alestane: He has a non-standard aggro scheme. |
| 18:13.13 | alestane | The NPC died while I wasn't looking, I have no healing anyway. |
| 18:13.21 | Lopeppeppy | He was hard to keep alive, so yeah... that wouldn't work for you. |
| 18:13.42 | alestane | If I'd been more liberal with Felstorm I might have pulled it off. |
| 18:13.55 | Lopeppeppy | He aggro wipes when he does some ability, I seem to remember. |
| 18:14.04 | alestane | The thunderstomp, probably. |
| 18:14.16 | Lopeppeppy | your dots would make you the prime target when that happens, oh locky one. |
| 18:14.22 | TMc51 | Lunessa: what time do people typically log on, or is it just randomly during the day/night? |
| 18:14.32 | Ackis | Torhal: trueachievements.com |
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| 18:15.29 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:15.33 | Fisker | hardware banned yet? |
| 18:15.47 | Lunessa | TMc51: For Grounding Totem - it's pretty random right now. Some members, such as alestane and Lopeppeppy play very seldom. And I've been occupied largely by beta lately. |
| 18:15.57 | olafski | ackis: thanks tho :) |
| 18:16.23 | industrial | I've had it with windows >:( |
| 18:16.31 | TMc51 | Lunessa: If I catch anybody on, who should I ask for an invite? |
| 18:16.38 | industrial | I can't move my AddOns folder because apparently some git files are 'in use' |
| 18:16.38 | Lopeppeppy | Baaaaaa-ta! |
| 18:16.42 | Lunessa | Anyone can invite. |
| 18:16.47 | industrial | these are from a repo I haven't touched in 6 months |
| 18:16.48 | Torhal | Ackis: Is it owned by gold sellers? :D |
| 18:16.51 | industrial | How do i fix this? |
| 18:16.53 | Lunessa | I'll be on as Unkle tonight for a raid. |
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| 18:17.48 | Arrowmaster | olafski: blame me then |
| 18:17.56 | TMc51 | Ahh, you're Unkle? Do you have a new forum toon or just stopped hanging around the UI forum lately? Seems a lot of the helpful bunch haven't been around for a bit. |
| 18:18.31 | Lopeppeppy | Beta again, TMc51 |
| 18:18.50 | TMc51 | Ahh |
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| 18:19.18 | Lunessa | My time has been pretty limited, so I have to chose where to spend it. |
| 18:19.30 | TMc51 | Understandable. Was just curious. |
| 18:19.39 | Lunessa | After BlizzCon and the Beta is over, I'll be much more focused on Live. |
| 18:19.59 | olafski | blames arrowmaster |
| 18:20.47 | Lunessa | Speaking of BlizzCon; I have 1 extra ticket. Is there anyone who wants to go that can actually make it there? If so, you can have the ticket for access, I'll keep the goodie bag. :) |
| 18:22.56 | alestane | So.,...damn....close... |
| 18:23.08 | zenzelezz | don't accept tickets from strange men |
| 18:23.27 | alestane | I was almost able to keep up with his damage by using Drain Life. |
| 18:23.49 | Arrowmaster | are you soloing aq20? |
| 18:23.56 | alestane | Trying real hard. |
| 18:24.00 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: So, you don't get many tickets then? |
| 18:24.01 | alestane | I got Kurinaxx. |
| 18:24.07 | Arrowmaster | try aq40 trash |
| 18:24.09 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: of course not |
| 18:24.12 | Arrowmaster | they are fun |
| 18:24.21 | alestane | Lesson on Kurinaxx is simple....*don't* get sand trapped. |
| 18:24.51 | Arrowmaster | thats what demon portal is for right |
| 18:25.34 | alestane | Strafing is an easier habit...I tried that, but he uses the ability faster than Teleport cools down. |
| 18:25.44 | Fisker | i can go Lunessa |
| 18:26.16 | Lunessa | Fisker: Wow. I'm impressed. International flights on a short notice. |
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| 18:27.04 | alestane | O hey, the NPCs respawned. |
| 18:27.05 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: probably wouldnt be hard to find somebody to claim him as a pet and put him down in the cargo hold |
| 18:27.16 | Lunessa | hahaha |
| 18:27.19 | Fisker | also more of a troll Lunessa |
| 18:27.25 | Fisker | i live under any bridge |
| 18:28.01 | Lunessa | lulz |
| 18:28.15 | Lopeppeppy | ships Fisker as a pet, but forgets the airholes and the water. Oops. |
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| 18:30.46 | Fisker | i heard paladins were buffed in last nights hotfixes |
| 18:30.48 | Fisker | any sauces? |
| 18:31.00 | durcyn | i have some sauce for you, Fisker |
| 18:31.15 | Fisker | is it the kind that comes out your penis? |
| 18:31.37 | durcyn | what, no, how could you think that? |
| 18:31.41 | foxlit | The ding, it does nothing |
| 18:31.42 | foxlit | :/ |
| 18:32.05 | Fisker | i just wanted to make sure if i wanted it durcyn |
| 18:32.15 | durcyn | foxlit: are you aware of the issues with items in rings in foxtrot10? |
| 18:32.50 | Lunessa | Strange... Blizzard sent me my BC ticket sheets a second time. |
| 18:33.51 | foxlit | durcyn: yes; people aren't slacking on reporting that. |
| 18:34.05 | foxlit | Though I just figured out that my fix is kind of meh. Wish they didn't change the API. |
| 18:34.54 | foxlit | Also, wtb a way to disable {luckycharms} in chat channels. |
| 18:35.18 | alestane | GOT HIM! |
| 18:36.38 | Lunessa | Woot |
| 18:37.02 | Dagmar | foxlit: Reporting spam works a treat |
| 18:37.17 | Dagmar | Just because they're not selling gold doesn't mean they're not spamming |
| 18:37.28 | Dagmar | I've had to remind a few jackasses on my server about that |
| 18:37.51 | alestane | How well is soloing B'uru the Gorger likely to work, though? |
| 18:38.01 | foxlit | fine |
| 18:38.05 | foxlit | Dagmar: in this case, they're also selling gold |
| 18:38.16 | Dagmar | Ah, then lets find a way to cripple their children |
| 18:38.19 | foxlit | alestane: he's soloable. I'm not sure about your class, but it's doable. |
| 18:38.38 | alestane | Warlock. |
| 18:38.38 | Lunessa | I just use the Report Spam for practically every chat-channel annoyance these days. *poof* They're gone from the channel for the rest of my session. |
| 18:38.40 | foxlit | Meh, you have self-healing. |
| 18:38.49 | foxlit | And probably enough dps to kill the eggs when you need to. |
| 18:38.54 | foxlit | I don't think you'll have any trouble. |
| 18:38.54 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I has a plan. :) |
| 18:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | Murder all eggies! |
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| 18:39.31 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Got a woodchipper? |
| 18:39.48 | Lopeppeppy | No no no, Lunessa, tonight is for O Brother Where Art Thou. |
| 18:40.04 | Lunessa | I am a man of lonesome sorrow. |
| 18:40.15 | alestane | I hear that's a good movie. |
| 18:40.24 | Lopeppeppy | constant sorrow. *laugh* |
| 18:40.37 | Dagmar | Lunessa: No, I'm trying to find more time to dig back into hooking that right-click menu to put a more detailed "Report" button in place that will dump the last 10 things someone said, and give you a drop down category list to pick WHICH particularly reprehensible violation of the ToU was just committed |
| 18:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | It's an awesome movie, alestane. I do not own it, I think I'm destined for disappointment tonight. |
| 18:41.10 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08e9k-c91E8 |
| 18:41.23 | Lunessa | Dagmar: That's a good plan. |
| 18:42.07 | Lopeppeppy | I adore George Clooney in this movie. |
| 18:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | I listened to the soundtrack in my 2+ hours of driving around yesterday. |
| 18:43.43 | Lunessa | The music is a fine example of the genre and very enjoyable. |
| 18:45.33 | foxlit | durcyn: any other problems that you noticed? |
| 18:46.08 | foxlit | Also, anyone know whether anything happened to healthstones in this patch? |
| 18:46.53 | alestane | Bleah, Flesh Hunters suck, |
| 18:47.24 | Dagmar | foxlit: STill trying to figure out WTF to click on, sorry |
| 18:47.39 | Dagmar | I completely forgot to even think about the possibility of class changes on my 'lock. *sigh* |
| 18:48.08 | durcyn | foxlit: no other issues for me, no. and healthstones changed names to just "Healthstone" across the board |
| 18:48.20 | foxlit | durcyn: urgh, that's worse |
| 18:49.00 | foxlit | Or not. Hurray for "66% of creator's health" -- I'm in exactly the same amount of trouble as before |
| 18:49.10 | foxlit | (/use Healthstone macros are a headache) |
| 18:49.11 | durcyn | foxlit: it may actually be on a single item ID now, with a percentage of health restored. database shows three, but the talent that affects the percentage is missing |
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| 18:54.48 | Angayelle | hai people |
| 18:55.39 | Angayelle | saw shadowed unit frame got updated 1h30 ago but still got troubles, new version coming up anytime ? |
| 18:57.44 | Ackis | hahaha "Housework Can Protect You From Breast Cancer" |
| 18:57.45 | Ackis | I win!!!! |
| 18:58.10 | durcyn | Angayelle: you'll need to pull alpha zips from the cataclysm branch on wowace if you want anything meaningful. |
| 18:58.24 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_101410_213958.jpg <- my latest addon, Duh :D |
| 18:58.29 | Ackis | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6214655.stm |
| 18:58.31 | Angayelle | ya know sexual relation mouth and genital parts can give cancer, rly |
| 18:58.56 | Ackis | mikma: I don't see ackis recipe list installed, you fail sir |
| 18:58.58 | Angayelle | thanks durcyn |
| 18:59.24 | mikma | ackis: i don't need stuff like that |
| 18:59.45 | Ackis | :( |
| 19:00.06 | Fisker | eat shit and die Ackis |
| 19:00.32 | Ackis | I want to die Fisker help me? |
| 19:00.40 | mikma | ackis: what fisker said |
| 19:01.58 | EvilPete | Speaking of recipe lists... ARL doesn't tell me where to get glyph of mage armor back from :) |
| 19:02.30 | industrial | ok so |
| 19:02.36 | industrial | 4.0.1, my wow crashes randomly |
| 19:02.39 | industrial | is this a new feature? |
| 19:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 19:03.09 | EvilPete | industrial: yes, but the water effects in the crash are so much nicer! |
| 19:03.46 | Lopeppeppy | Working as intended, Indy. |
| 19:04.03 | Lunessa | ROFL - http://notalwaysright.com/stereo-griping/7735 |
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| 19:08.30 | Computerpunk | Ackis u mad? |
| 19:15.55 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/when-you-dont-want-a-quick-service/7726 , Lunessa. |
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| 19:17.56 | JoBbZ | Hm, I removed all instances of "this" in my addon, but when I log in, I still get an error that it is referencing "this" on line 1?! |
| 19:18.00 | JoBbZ | anyone else seen that? |
| 19:18.20 | durcyn | you seem to have missed one. on line 12. |
| 19:18.34 | alestane | Sounds like you need to double-check your code. |
| 19:18.47 | Lunessa | alestane: Seriously. |
| 19:18.59 | JoBbZ | Well, I use Control-F to find |
| 19:19.01 | JoBbZ | zero instances |
| 19:19.07 | JoBbZ | of "this" |
| 19:19.31 | durcyn | pastey or go home |
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| 19:20.43 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: if I have a database default = { profile = { bindings = {} } } that just ensures the bindings table exists.. its not going to somehow frreakishly magically delete it? |
| 19:20.50 | jnwhiteh | I mean I wrote that freaking code |
| 19:20.53 | jnwhiteh | but I feel like I am going insane here. |
| 19:21.01 | nevcairiel | It wont delete anything |
| 19:21.06 | nevcairiel | (as long as it contains keys) |
| 19:21.14 | jnwhiteh | it would. |
| 19:21.41 | jnwhiteh | well if anyone shows up looking for me, I'l brb. |
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| 19:26.57 | alestane | Lunessa, http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ffn/index.php?date=2010-10-07 |
| 19:27.07 | Vandog | is foxlit in this channel the author of opie? |
| 19:27.25 | TC-Work | yes |
| 19:27.38 | TC-Work | i think so |
| 19:27.40 | JoBbZ | hm, actually it doesn't specifically reference a file |
| 19:27.45 | JoBbZ | loading variables maybe? |
| 19:27.50 | JoBbZ | http://www.pastey.net/141598 |
| 19:28.53 | industrial | meeeeehhhhh if I target something, clicking anywhere won't untarget it :S wth :S |
| 19:29.05 | Dagmar | Sticky Targeting |
| 19:29.08 | Dagmar | It's an interface option |
| 19:29.22 | durcyn | sticky targeting defaulted on for a lot of people in the patch |
| 19:29.28 | durcyn | and auto loot off, so obnoxiious |
| 19:29.30 | durcyn | -i |
| 19:29.32 | industrial | eep |
| 19:29.38 | industrial | goes through all options right now |
| 19:29.46 | alestane | That looks like it's probably from an XML script or a dynamically loaded function, JoBbZ. |
| 19:29.56 | Vandog | i'm a wow interface noob.... can events be bound to the windows-key or apple-key combinations? |
| 19:30.08 | alestane | No. |
| 19:30.09 | Dagmar | Nothing can bind to the Windows key |
| 19:30.10 | JoBbZ | alestane: thanks |
| 19:30.37 | JoBbZ | bingo, the xml file |
| 19:30.39 | JoBbZ | thanks!! |
| 19:30.39 | Vandog | thanks |
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| 19:31.36 | Arrowmaster | Vandog: shift, ctrl, alt, and any combination of them are the only modifier keys allowed |
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| 19:32.43 | Vandog | thanks |
| 19:36.14 | Dewin | Now you have me wondering if I could squeeze out more macro space by finding a third party app that makes windows key act as, say, ctrl+shift+alt in WoW. |
| 19:36.34 | foxlit | Do you /need/ more space? |
| 19:36.52 | foxlit | Personally, I think there's more money to be made in two-keystroke actions |
| 19:37.52 | Dagmar | Dewin: I can put an end to that right here and now. It's forbidden for apps to hook the Windows logo key. Only the OS may ever hook that. |
| 19:38.02 | Dagmar | So sayeth The Microsoft |
| 19:38.16 | foxlit | Dagmar: SC2 kills the windows key? |
| 19:38.23 | Dewin | Dagmar: Interesting. |
| 19:38.56 | Dagmar | foxlit: Not really my problem whether they've managed to get around it or not |
| 19:38.56 | Dewin | foxlit: I have a lot of my higher-priority keybinds on 1-6 and shift+1-6, since it's a split keyboard and my right hand is on the mouse. I'd love another 'set' of them |
| 19:39.10 | Dewin | Though I've been tempted to change from WASD to ESDF to solve that |
| 19:39.24 | Fisker | it's forbidden to hook the secure logon key |
| 19:39.43 | Fisker | the only place it's forbidden to hook windows keys and combinations is to pass Microsoft's Games for faggots live |
| 19:39.52 | Fisker | well also games for faggots classic |
| 19:40.08 | Fisker | lovely enough Blizzard cared more about the game than getting that irrelevant sticker |
| 19:40.37 | Fisker | though they did initially state they wouldn't because they wanted that gay ass sticker |
| 19:40.40 | durcyn | you're gonna need to get a new insult there, Fisker. |
| 19:40.58 | Fisker | xbox live durcyn |
| 19:41.04 | Fisker | should be sufficient |
| 19:41.12 | durcyn | yes, i know what you're talking about |
| 19:41.28 | Dagmar | foxlit: My _guess_ is that they're flagging the app full-screen modal somehow |
| 19:41.41 | Fisker | durcyn it's an insult |
| 19:42.29 | Dagmar | diaso: Any idea what is? |
| 19:43.43 | durcyn | Fisker: sass microsoft all day long, however you like. just don't use that word to do it. |
| 19:44.06 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: wrong, its the shell that handles the windows key, if you arent using the default windows shell, other apps can hook it |
| 19:44.46 | Arrowmaster | i used to use bb4win back when i used windows |
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| 19:46.01 | Fisker | xbox live durcyn ? |
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| 19:47.45 | olafski | nice they finally gave blood boil some animation :) |
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| 19:48.44 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: How can I be wrong about what Microsoft declared in their specifications for that key? |
| 19:49.06 | Dagmar | I'm trying to dig up those documents now |
| 19:49.34 | Dagmar | I ran across it when I was trying to figure out why the hell DirectX was just "eating" F13-F24 keypresses |
| 19:49.37 | Arrowmaster | yeah well trust me, when i was using bb4win i customized all kinds of hotkeys using the windows key |
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| 19:50.13 | Arrowmaster | let me guess the creators of directx were like 'whats an f13-f24 key?' |
| 19:50.19 | MentalPower | Dagmar: that only applies to Explorer's handling of it |
| 19:50.27 | MentalPower | says nothing about other apps |
| 19:50.40 | MentalPower | the only key combo that can't be hooked is Ctrl+Alt+Del |
| 19:52.44 | Dagmar | I didn't say "can't" either. I said Microsoft has forbidden it. |
| 19:53.18 | amro | like that matters |
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| 19:57.28 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14870143692&sid=1 <-coincidence or godwin? |
| 19:58.01 | nevcairiel | I dont get it |
| 19:58.23 | Fisker | "final solution" |
| 19:59.20 | Cide | I still don't get it |
| 20:00.39 | zenzelezz | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/10/patent-troll-takes-over-the-web-can-it-be-stopped.ars |
| 20:01.01 | amro | "Checked in internet and found a world : youtube videos, forums,blogs , .... " |
| 20:01.09 | amro | who knew all those things were out there |
| 20:01.44 | foxlit | oh bleh |
| 20:02.00 | foxlit | raid frames menu includes an entry called "blue world marker" |
| 20:02.18 | foxlit | I can't figure out what that does because apparently my addon blocks it -- probably through the usual UIDropDownMenu crap. |
| 20:02.32 | Fisker | then you don't know godwinning Cide |
| 20:02.50 | durcyn | zenzelezz: fuck this corrupt earth |
| 20:03.17 | zenzelezz | durcyn: indeed |
| 20:04.28 | DWSR | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/10/got-smart-phone-bill-shock-relief-on-the-way.ars |
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| 20:09.35 | amro | sylvanaar_work: ping |
| 20:11.20 | Zhinjio | Shefki: ping |
| 20:11.31 | Zhinjio | oh hey foxlit |
| 20:11.38 | foxlit | hi |
| 20:11.42 | JoBbZ | why would I get an error that indexing self is a nil value? |
| 20:11.52 | JoBbZ | i thoguht self was always defined for an object :/ |
| 20:11.59 | Zhinjio | any news on opie? I'm all jittery and shit without it |
| 20:12.01 | foxlit | objects are a lies |
| 20:12.06 | foxlit | s/es/s/ |
| 20:12.09 | Dagmar | <insert fapping joke> |
| 20:12.13 | foxlit | oh wow, that made it worse. |
| 20:12.37 | zenzelezz | you're a lis! |
| 20:12.39 | foxlit | Zhinjio: as long as your rings do not include item slices, you should be able to get it to work? :) |
| 20:13.01 | Zhinjio | hmm. oh, the ones the one that was failing was my mount ring |
| 20:13.05 | Zhinjio | I guess that counts as items, huh |
| 20:14.09 | foxlit | Hm, not sure |
| 20:15.12 | Zhinjio | that was the ring that flipped out on me. outfits ring was fine, um... auras was fine. |
| 20:15.13 | foxlit | Zhinjio: companions should probably work. |
| 20:15.15 | Zhinjio | as I recall |
| 20:15.25 | Zhinjio | yeah, don't use it for that. just mounts |
| 20:15.34 | foxlit | mounts are companions :) |
| 20:15.42 | foxlit | api-wise, which is probably a bit non-standard. |
| 20:17.03 | Dagmar | My ex was pleased to note they finally fixed the Horseman's mount so you don't have to remount it to take off |
| 20:18.04 | foxlit | also, ouch at the performance hit of OnUpdate errors |
| 20:18.17 | zenzelezz | I wonder how Youtube's "Recommended for you" feature works... cause I don't see why they'd suggest "Fat bus driver fights with child" after I watch "christian the lion" |
| 20:18.37 | foxlit | zenzelezz: clearly through "lion eats christians" |
| 20:18.59 | Zhinjio | foxlit: ah, I see. ok, terminology issue *grin* |
| 20:19.02 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.12 | Zhinjio | pb4 question for whomever cares to answer: when showing raid frames, I thought there was a way to create spacing between groups? like, 25 man raid... 5 groups of 5, separated slightly? |
| 20:20.16 | Zhinjio | I'm not finding it now |
| 20:21.54 | foxlit | okay, seriously. |
| 20:22.01 | foxlit | /run error() causes a framerate spike. |
| 20:22.48 | Lunessa | Is noise changing the way you enjoy flavors? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11525897 |
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| 20:26.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: thats pretty interesting |
| 20:26.28 | Lunessa | I thought so. |
| 20:26.29 | NightHawkTheSane | wonder how/if it relates to synethesia. |
| 20:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mangled that spelling, i thin |
| 20:26.51 | Lunessa | Seeing as we don't understand that mechanism very well, it's possible. |
| 20:27.11 | Fisker | tell me lies NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:27.42 | NightHawkTheSane | sweet little lies? |
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| 20:29.14 | foxlit | There's something particularly crappy about dalaran rendering |
| 20:29.32 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 20:29.41 | foxlit | Looking in some directions kills your framerate, even though there's nothing complex in the rendered picture |
| 20:29.45 | durcyn | my normal 60fps hits 10 when I point my camera to the center of town |
| 20:30.08 | foxlit | I'm standing at the silver enclave and looking at the tunnel outwards |
| 20:30.17 | zenzelezz | I never liked Dalaran... too bright, too small, didn't really feel very magical besides floating in the air |
| 20:30.29 | foxlit | If I see a small piece of the neutral street, my fps is around 17 |
| 20:30.37 | foxlit | If I don't, it's around 55 |
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| 20:31.13 | foxlit | Moving camera for an along-ground view drops it to 9. |
| 20:31.47 | TC-Work | foxlit: could be rendering things not in view, like water |
| 20:32.04 | foxlit | There's no water for miles |
| 20:32.08 | TC-Work | in dal? |
| 20:32.10 | TC-Work | yes there is |
| 20:32.12 | zenzelezz | this is different than your performance before the patch, I assume? |
| 20:32.21 | durcyn | zenzelezz: noticably. |
| 20:32.31 | foxlit | zenzelezz: dalaran was always weird. This is more extreme, but it might just be "she deep breathes more!" |
| 20:32.33 | DWSR | New water, any money. |
| 20:32.44 | foxlit | Thing is, I don't have a performance hit looking at new water |
| 20:32.46 | Vandog | there's the fishing hole |
| 20:32.46 | DWSR | Also, new shaders. |
| 20:32.51 | durcyn | zenzelezz: my default idling position is at the south bank pointed towards that stupid statue, and idle FPS was at least 45 with lots of activity in front of me for the game to render |
| 20:33.01 | foxlit | The fishing hole isn't in the right direction. Even if there were no walls at all, I wouldn't see it |
| 20:33.04 | DWSR | There's a bunch of graphical changes. Have you dropped your shadows to min? All my graphics options were reset. |
| 20:33.31 | Vandog | could it be the sunthingies? |
| 20:33.31 | foxlit | Nah, I'm staying with 8xfsaa, 4x filtering, decent shadows. |
| 20:33.37 | foxlit | There's also no sun |
| 20:33.57 | DWSR | foxlit: Try dropping your shadows down 1 setting, they're still pretty good. |
| 20:34.12 | DWSR | Also, 2x filtering or 4xfsaa should help pretty significantly. |
| 20:35.17 | foxlit | DWSR: none of that had a significant effect |
| 20:35.29 | DWSR | herm. Helped me a ton. |
| 20:35.37 | foxlit | Different graphics cards, probably |
| 20:35.43 | DWSR | What are you running? I'm on a 9800gtx |
| 20:35.49 | foxlit | + |
| 20:36.00 | foxlit | However, I'm now standing in mostly the same spot, looking down mostly the same tunnel, and it's at 30fps |
| 20:36.10 | DWSR | foxlit: Odd. |
| 20:36.12 | foxlit | [same settings] |
| 20:36.42 | foxlit | And now I can't seem to drop it below 30 |
| 20:37.26 | Lunessa | foxlit: VSync on? |
| 20:37.32 | foxlit | Lunessa: yes. |
| 20:37.50 | Lunessa | foxlit: Turn it off. You likely don't need it on. |
| 20:37.59 | zenzelezz | so you're running full-screen? |
| 20:38.09 | foxlit | well, maximized window |
| 20:38.19 | Yssaril | can anyone confirm that X-53 Touring Rocket now acts as a ground mount (in areas you can not fly) ? |
| 20:38.21 | zenzelezz | windowed mode is always vsynced on Windows |
| 20:38.27 | DWSR | Yssaril: It does. |
| 20:38.42 | DWSR | zenzelezz: No it's not. Unless Windows is doing something |
| 20:38.52 | DWSR | My vsync is off and I'm in a maximized Window |
| 20:38.55 | Yssaril | DWSR: thanks |
| 20:39.08 | foxlit | I'm not so much complaining about the FPS as about the variability given that the complexity of the scene doesn't change much |
| 20:39.17 | zenzelezz | DWSR: I'll admit I've never *read* it, but I would find it odd that I cap at 60.0 in windowed no matter what |
| 20:39.20 | Lunessa | I run in Windowed Fullscreen, and I turn off VSync, things look pretty good. |
| 20:39.31 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Take a look at the maximum FPS options. |
| 20:39.43 | zenzelezz | DWSR: I'm not just talking WoW |
| 20:39.57 | zenzelezz | but it could be any odd setting in my drivers that I'm unaware of |
| 20:39.58 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Might be your GPU or something else. It's not Windows though |
| 20:40.48 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/bd720c61-f153-4420-a847-18ab66cc6839.jpg |
| 20:40.59 | foxlit | Yssaril: all air mounts are now ground mounts where they can't fly |
| 20:41.19 | foxlit | eh, or they were on beta |
| 20:41.38 | nicoli_s | what is that a pic of shirik\ |
| 20:41.45 | Shirik | a 4 armed girl |
| 20:41.49 | Dagmar | It still won't let you summon flying mounts in the old world as of last night |
| 20:41.57 | Yssaril | foxlit:of not having the flight master license |
| 20:42.08 | foxlit | Yssaril: I'm in dalaran |
| 20:42.09 | Cide | is that a girl? |
| 20:42.45 | Yssaril | foxlit: last i checked they lifted the flight restriction in dal on beta |
| 20:43.07 | foxlit | Complicated. |
| 20:43.20 | foxlit | I'm saying I'm in Dalaran on live and can't seem to summon a flying mount that isn't also a ground mount |
| 20:43.32 | DWSR | You acn't. |
| 20:43.33 | DWSR | can't* |
| 20:43.37 | DWSR | Not until Cata. |
| 20:43.40 | foxlit | In beta, however, I've observed that you can summon flying-only mounts in areas where you cannot fly |
| 20:43.51 | foxlit | See: temple of the earth |
| 20:44.44 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/141601 |
| 20:45.05 | foxlit | Can you see a way that could break in some highly hilarious way? |
| 20:45.32 | amro | cogwheel: l2scan |
| 20:45.41 | cogwheel | inorite? |
| 20:45.56 | amro | that happened to me too once >< |
| 20:46.15 | amro | I was like, hey is that a, wait a, oh too late they're all dead. |
| 20:47.01 | Mirrormn | seems like it should return nil for invalid strings |
| 20:47.20 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 20:47.24 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
| 20:47.27 | Fisker | so take off all my clothes |
| 20:47.43 | ckknight | no one wants to see that, Fisker |
| 20:48.12 | Mirrormn | I never thought of extracting ItemID from the item link, though, I'm going to steal that -.- |
| 20:48.14 | Fisker | Well MentalPower didn't |
| 20:48.18 | Fisker | but you seem interested ckknight |
| 20:48.34 | DWSR | How do I get Vanishing Powder? From a vendor or a scribe? |
| 20:48.43 | Mirrormn | inscription supplies |
| 20:48.46 | zenzelezz | inscription vendor |
| 20:50.12 | Xyphoid | the damn stuff doesn't go in inscription bags |
| 20:50.18 | Xyphoid | i guess that would be dangerous |
| 20:50.20 | DWSR | WTB being able to inscribe glyphs into your inactive spec. |
| 20:50.56 | zenzelezz | instead of having to switch to it? |
| 20:51.08 | DWSR | yes. |
| 20:51.16 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 20:51.18 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 20:51.27 | Fisker | why doesn't Blizzard fix their posts? |
| 20:51.36 | DWSR | Because I have to cast a 5 second cast twice. |
| 20:51.38 | ckknight | why doesn't your mom fix her face? |
| 20:51.39 | DWSR | Meaning 10 wasted seconds. |
| 20:51.44 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 20:52.13 | Fisker | because i fuck it up every night ckknight |
| 20:52.18 | DWSR | Also, loss of presence and runic power is kind of a pita as well. |
| 20:52.38 | zenzelezz | that makes more sense (to me) than the 10 seconds |
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| 20:54.33 | ckknight | Fisker: good thing she doesn't have issues when I put a paper bag on her head |
| 20:54.39 | ckknight | it's a facial prosthesis. |
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| 20:56.42 | DWSR | Ok, can has 'oUF 101' infos? |
| 20:57.17 | Fisker | sounds nice ckknight |
| 20:57.30 | Fisker | but i'm very sweaty right now |
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| 21:03.32 | Xyphoid | man blood tanking is fun now |
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| 21:05.00 | DWSR | It's easier now. |
| 21:05.05 | DWSR | And I thought it couldn't get easier. |
| 21:05.10 | DWSR | BLOOD BOIL WEEEEEEEE |
| 21:05.19 | DWSR | IWIN <-- mkay? |
| 21:05.31 | jnwhiteh | well shit |
| 21:05.33 | jnwhiteh | i'm a druid |
| 21:05.38 | jnwhiteh | just payed 5k for master riding. |
| 21:05.41 | jnwhiteh | i didn't need to do this, did I. |
| 21:05.51 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 21:06.13 | jnwhiteh | well fuck |
| 21:06.17 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 21:06.18 | jnwhiteh | here's seeing if they can reverse it. |
| 21:07.22 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: what makes you think that you don't need it? |
| 21:07.33 | jnwhiteh | druids don't need it? |
| 21:07.42 | jnwhiteh | my epic flying form is already 280 |
| 21:07.48 | jnwhiteh | it would bump it to 310 at most, right? |
| 21:07.57 | nevcairiel | thats the whole point of master riding |
| 21:08.00 | nevcairiel | 280->310 |
| 21:08.25 | foxlit | You needed the 280 skill to get your epic flightform, anyhow |
| 21:08.31 | foxlit | What you bought now is the ->310 upgrade. |
| 21:08.32 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 21:08.35 | jnwhiteh | its 5k i don't need to spend right now |
| 21:08.37 | jnwhiteh | and I'd rather wait |
| 21:08.41 | foxlit | which also applies to your flight form. |
| 21:08.41 | jnwhiteh | I have other characters I may need that money for |
| 21:08.49 | jnwhiteh | *nod* I know |
| 21:09.03 | jnwhiteh | its just 5k I would not have spent if I wasn't an idiot =) |
| 21:09.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:09.07 | Arrowmaster | my dad came asking me if our internet connection was working |
| 21:09.18 | Arrowmaster | turns out its just his homepage not loading |
| 21:09.20 | Arrowmaster | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.yahoo.com |
| 21:09.29 | Arrowmaster | yahoo is down |
| 21:10.35 | jnwhiteh | if I have a scribe, were his glyphs updated to the new ones? |
| 21:10.46 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Yes. |
| 21:10.48 | DWSR | yes |
| 21:10.54 | Lunessa | Some more were added to the trainer. |
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| 21:11.15 | Xyphoid | also i learnt one from northrend research |
| 21:11.33 | Lunessa | More were added to research? ARGH! |
| 21:12.18 | Cide | Arrowmaster: clearly you only check your homepage and if that's down, everything's down! |
| 21:12.27 | Xyphoid | i'm not 100% sure i didn't have everything from research before, just 95% |
| 21:13.06 | Lunessa | Xyphoid: I had everything that was in the game prior to the. 4.0.1 patch. |
| 21:13.07 | Arrowmaster | Cide: my dad isnt that tech swavy, but still yahoo being down is hilarious |
| 21:13.24 | Lunessa | Last night I logged in and learned the new stuff off the trainer. |
| 21:13.35 | Xyphoid | so did i i thought, i'm pretty sure i ran through a week of dry research. but i got living bomb day 1 from research, which i was sure i had before |
| 21:13.47 | Kraps | derp my moh is bugged |
| 21:14.37 | Cide | Arrowmaster: I figured as much, and yeah, it is |
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| 21:16.08 | Kraps | http://twitter.com/#!/jimmy_wales/status/27313103524 |
| 21:16.57 | foxlit | twitter links are weird |
| 21:17.00 | Xyphoid | now use a screenshot of that tweet on the twitter page |
| 21:17.17 | foxlit | why is it linking to an anchor on twitter.com and not http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales/status/27313103524# directly? |
| 21:17.58 | Kraps | new twiter |
| 21:18.05 | Kraps | twitter* |
| 21:20.21 | Cide | because you cannot dynamically change the url |
| 21:20.29 | Cide | but you can dynamically change the anchor part of the url |
| 21:21.07 | Cide | so you make the relative path an anchor and dynamically change it, and then redirect based on it on page load |
| 21:21.13 | Cide | facebook does the same thing |
| 21:21.19 | Cide | with the same syntax for that matter |
| 21:21.37 | foxlit | why would you want to dynamically change the url |
| 21:21.51 | Cide | because it gives dynamic pages a way to link back to a specific javascript state |
| 21:21.55 | foxlit | and, given that you do, why can't you handle it at server request level rather than in clientside javascript? |
| 21:21.56 | Cide | commonly used with ajax |
| 21:22.19 | foxlit | ah, that makes more sense. |
| 21:22.20 | Cide | not sure what you mean there |
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| 21:22.29 | Cide | oh yeah |
| 21:22.34 | Cide | the server doesn't receive the anchor part of the url |
| 21:22.38 | Cide | so it needs to be handled by javascript |
| 21:22.40 | Lunessa | recursive image is recursive. |
| 21:22.47 | foxlit | I was focusing more on the use of the link externally, not internally |
| 21:23.04 | Cide | aye |
| 21:23.15 | foxlit | so you'd hand someone a link and say "go there!" -- that should probably not be an anchor on the main page |
| 21:23.27 | Cide | not if you can help it, no |
| 21:23.40 | Cide | but not much you can do about it if you want to store state like that |
| 21:23.41 | foxlit | Then again, if you're browsing twitter, you cannot really change the browser's URL bar content beyond anchors. |
| 21:24.09 | Cide | facebook redirects you from facebook.com/#!/url too facebook.com/url on page load |
| 21:24.16 | Cide | to* |
| 21:24.21 | Cide | looks like twitter doesn't |
| 21:24.26 | Cide | but it's mostly the same |
| 21:24.47 | Cide | of course, that only matters when clicking a link someone shared |
| 21:24.51 | foxlit | Pity I can't edit other people's comments on my wowi addon page |
| 21:26.01 | foxlit | Really don't need the bazillion-entry addon list that bugsack generates. |
| 21:27.20 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27187856197/class-balance-as-of-oct-13-2010/ |
| 21:27.52 | Cide | days behind |
| 21:28.00 | Cide | in some parts of the world; day behind in others |
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| 21:28.17 | foxlit | Hm, the farsight animation is really non-obvious |
| 21:28.40 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:28.41 | Computerpunk | Arrowmaster, sylvanaar_work FuBar update? <3 |
| 21:28.42 | Shirik | gmail fail |
| 21:29.05 | Cide | what now? |
| 21:29.13 | Shirik | Looking at an email from HR and on the right side google says "Walmart job application" "US Postal Jobs (hiring!)" |
| 21:29.13 | Cide | gmail put the blizzcon tickets in my spam as I said before |
| 21:29.22 | Shirik | no ty |
| 21:29.25 | Cide | haha |
| 21:30.03 | Computerpunk | Just joking btw. |
| 21:30.04 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 21:31.33 | Cide | if HR wrote to say that you're not welcome back maybe the ads were appropriate |
| 21:31.41 | Stanzilla | foxlit: opie update soon? |
| 21:32.00 | foxlit | Stanzilla: if only to get people to stop spamming that one error message. |
| 21:32.07 | Stanzilla | :p |
| 21:32.09 | foxlit | But eventually. I think I said sat/sun |
| 21:32.10 | Computerpunk | gnight. |
| 21:32.54 | Shirik | Cide, not so much :P |
| 21:33.20 | Cide | I figured as much but hey |
| 21:34.02 | Cide | if you crashed the ATC system for 30 seconds it would take them years to rebuild their reliability |
| 21:34.11 | Cide | s/reliability/average reliability/ |
| 21:34.20 | Torhal | foxlit: That isn't BugSack doing that, it's Swatter |
| 21:34.40 | amro | Cide: I'd be more concerned about crashing aircraft |
| 21:34.50 | amro | would take him years to rejoin society. |
| 21:34.53 | foxlit | Torhal: s/bugsack/swatter/ ? :) |
| 21:34.56 | Cide | depends on if it was manned or not |
| 21:35.30 | Cide | and I don't think he's dealing with ATC systems (un?)fortunately |
| 21:35.30 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 21:35.30 | Cide | not sure what the implications would be of 30s downtime either |
| 21:35.30 | amro | ATC generally deals with manned craft |
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| 21:35.30 | Cide | well obviously |
| 21:35.36 | DWSR | Cide: Probably not much |
| 21:35.40 | Cide | probably not |
| 21:35.48 | amro | depends on when it happens |
| 21:35.48 | cbreak | if it fails, with manned groundcarfts. |
| 21:35.48 | Cide | depends on how busy the airport is I guess |
| 21:35.58 | Cide | or the area as it may be |
| 21:35.59 | DWSR | Depending on how long it takes them to get to a working state again. |
| 21:36.04 | amro | if it happens just as two craft are about to enter a collision course, could be bad |
| 21:36.08 | Cide | we postulated 30s |
| 21:36.11 | amro | although they all have internal collision avoidance systems now |
| 21:36.22 | DWSR | amro: Actually, aircraft have onboard P2P systems for collision avoidance. |
| 21:36.27 | Cide | I don't think any flight is ever scheduled to enter into a collision course? :P |
| 21:36.39 | DWSR | Cide: Not on purpose, but it has happened. |
| 21:36.41 | cbreak | DWSR: they had to remove those because the RIAA sued them |
| 21:36.49 | Cide | DWSR: well yes |
| 21:36.55 | Cide | that's pretty much a given |
| 21:36.56 | DWSR | cbreak: ^5 |
| 21:37.17 | amro | DWSR: yeah, that worked well in the past :P |
| 21:37.18 | Cide | but the question is |
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| 21:37.57 | Cide | can you wreak more havoc in 30 seconds with a poorly coded program than you can in aviation? |
| 21:37.58 | amro | DWSR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_%C3%9Cberlingen_Mid-Air_Collision |
| 21:38.13 | Cide | I'm thinking nuclear powerplants may be a candidate |
| 21:38.31 | Cide | but I'm not sure on the timeframe there |
| 21:38.34 | cbreak | Cide: the Wallstreet computer system |
| 21:38.43 | cbreak | just imagine some random program does some crazy shit |
| 21:38.56 | cbreak | billions of dollars go poof |
| 21:38.56 | Arrowmaster | we dont have to imagine, it happened |
| 21:39.04 | Cide | that's another good one |
| 21:39.10 | Cide | depends on the definition I guess |
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| 21:39.24 | Cide | that's havoc but not destruction (but I guess I said havoc) |
| 21:39.25 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: wasn't that user error? |
| 21:39.27 | foxlit | I find the concept of billions of dollars going poof amusing |
| 21:39.41 | cbreak | it's destruction of imaginary property cide :) |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | For money to be able to vanish it really has to have never existed in the first place |
| 21:40.40 | DWSR | foxlit: US economy. |
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| 21:41.45 | cbreak | foxlit: money is not like matter, it's like data |
| 21:41.51 | cbreak | you can conjure it out of thin air |
| 21:41.55 | cbreak | if you're a bank :) |
| 21:42.37 | Kraps | old http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/movies/video_loader/wow_video.htm?vid=wow-ects-2001-gameplay&dir=movies/ects_01&rating=wow |
| 21:43.13 | Cide | cbreak: that's only based on the idea that you can oversell simply because not everything is withdrawn at once |
| 21:43.24 | cbreak | yes |
| 21:43.33 | cbreak | or look at the apple stock |
| 21:43.38 | Cide | doesn't really make it true though |
| 21:43.43 | cbreak | 90 dollars at start of 2008 |
| 21:43.51 | cbreak | or 2009 |
| 21:43.55 | cbreak | and 300 dollars now |
| 21:44.03 | cbreak | do you really think that money is real? |
| 21:44.28 | Cide | unless someone cheated then yes, if the system is intact then it is real |
| 21:44.36 | cbreak | it's attributed value |
| 21:44.48 | cbreak | if jobs goes live on tv tomorrow |
| 21:45.09 | cbreak | and declares that he'll marry steve balmer and move to china |
| 21:45.12 | foxlit | Then a lot of money will have *changed hands* |
| 21:45.14 | cbreak | the value will vanish in an instant |
| 21:45.32 | foxlit | The fact that your piece of paper is now worth less than you paid for it doesn't mean that anything was destroyed |
| 21:45.43 | cbreak | the worth was destroyed |
| 21:45.52 | foxlit | The worth never existed. |
| 21:45.57 | cbreak | it's an attribution change |
| 21:45.59 | foxlit | Money did, however. |
| 21:46.08 | cbreak | all worth that exists is only because people give it |
| 21:46.16 | Cide | but worth != money |
| 21:46.23 | Cide | so saying that worth vanished doesn't imply that money vanished |
| 21:47.17 | cbreak | so you say that apple would not lose money if it's stocks dropped by 50%? |
| 21:48.15 | foxlit | Indeed. |
| 21:49.30 | Cide | regardless |
| 21:49.51 | Cide | flipping some numbers in the wall street system would end up with people effectively losing money I'm sure |
| 21:50.06 | Cide | since not everything is withdrawn at once it would disappear in the masses unless the error was detected |
| 21:50.25 | Cide | but the money still exists |
| 21:50.30 | Cide | it simply loses its virtual ownership |
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| 21:54.43 | cbreak | that latest windows & simens super virus thing |
| 21:55.01 | cbreak | I bet it would have been much more effective if it had targeted finance instead of some weird centrifuge thing |
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| 21:58.02 | Shirik | super virus? |
| 21:59.05 | Xyphoid | stuxnet? |
| 21:59.33 | cbreak | yeah |
| 21:59.40 | cbreak | the windows link exploiting one |
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| 22:00.22 | bluspacecow | someone made a MBR root kit >_> |
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| 22:10.20 | Cide | whooo void ray changes |
| 22:10.35 | Kraps | when |
| 22:10.45 | Cide | ~40 minutes ago according to twitter |
| 22:10.53 | Cide | damage level 1 from 5 to 6 (+4 armored), level 2 from 10 (+15 armored) to 8 (+8 armored) |
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| 22:13.23 | foxlit | so a nerf |
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| 22:14.37 | Cide | indeed |
| 22:14.39 | Cide | a big one |
| 22:15.10 | foxlit | Poor protoss, now all their air gets eaten by terrans? |
| 22:15.39 | Cide | seems that way |
| 22:16.29 | amro | voids were broken |
| 22:16.33 | amro | they failed at what they were supposed to do |
| 22:16.38 | amro | and did things they weren't supposed to |
| 22:17.29 | Cide | is that like terran? |
| 22:17.44 | Cide | they failed at losing half their matches and did win all of them instead? |
| 22:17.49 | Cide | >>>:) |
| 22:17.52 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 22:17.52 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 22:17.56 | amro | terran isn't that broken |
| 22:18.05 | Cide | zerg is |
| 22:18.08 | amro | just because they can a-move doesn't mean they're OP |
| 22:18.11 | Cide | or was, maybe they got fixed this move |
| 22:18.13 | Cide | this patch |
| 22:18.19 | amro | roach buff |
| 22:18.20 | amro | is going to be huge |
| 22:18.25 | Cide | not really |
| 22:18.27 | msoul | is searing pain back to desto locks now? |
| 22:18.29 | amro | yes really |
| 22:18.33 | Cide | remains to be seen though |
| 22:18.41 | amro | now they are more worthwhile for tanking for your hydras |
| 22:18.42 | Cide | roaches are kinda strong now I guess |
| 22:18.45 | amro | and they do more damage while they're at it |
| 22:18.54 | amro | you no longer have to wait for ultras to do a push vs terran |
| 22:20.13 | amro | it makes roach upgrades more wothwhile so you can do shit like roach burrow tank ambush more often |
| 22:20.21 | amro | at least, until they learn to get ravens |
| 22:20.54 | Cide | which they can get about when they get siege mode |
| 22:21.07 | amro | yeah, but that's 200g |
| 22:21.12 | amro | forcing them to get a raven or 2 is a good thing |
| 22:21.17 | amro | since pdd is worth sod all |
| 22:21.27 | cbreak | I like it. |
| 22:21.32 | amro | I mean, vs zerg |
| 22:21.34 | amro | it's awesome vs protoss |
| 22:21.41 | cbreak | it's good vs. mutalisks |
| 22:21.44 | cbreak | hunter seeker too |
| 22:22.03 | amro | so are a lot of things |
| 22:22.07 | cbreak | does pdd work against hydras? |
| 22:22.09 | Cide | you still require the roach upgrade to force ravens though |
| 22:22.11 | amro | yes |
| 22:22.16 | Cide | which is how much? |
| 22:22.16 | amro | but it's less useful |
| 22:22.19 | amro | since hydras attack so much |
| 22:22.22 | amro | 150/150 I think? |
| 22:22.27 | amro | or 100/100 |
| 22:22.36 | Cide | the biggest part I guess is that it forces a tech lab on the starport |
| 22:22.42 | Cide | which is a fair amount of time |
| 22:23.54 | cbreak | terrans can scan. |
| 22:24.02 | Cide | once or twice |
| 22:24.14 | Cide | at any given point |
| 22:24.22 | cbreak | only if the energy was used for other things |
| 22:24.34 | Cide | which it should be or else you already have an advantage :P |
| 22:24.49 | Cide | or well |
| 22:24.52 | Cide | I guess an equal battle |
| 22:24.59 | cbreak | well, I am probably one of the few players who's not affected by most nerfs |
| 22:25.00 | Cide | since it's vs terran after all |
| 22:25.15 | Cide | you play random or not at all? |
| 22:25.19 | cbreak | random |
| 22:25.22 | amro | the thing about zvt is that zerg has to work harder |
| 22:25.27 | amro | can't a-move |
| 22:25.32 | cbreak | sure they can |
| 22:25.33 | amro | but imo it's not as broken as people think |
| 22:25.35 | Cide | that's pretty much always true of zerg |
| 22:25.41 | amro | yeah |
| 22:25.50 | cbreak | that's the standard modus operandi of zerglings |
| 22:25.51 | amro | with infestor micro and a solid mix of units |
| 22:25.54 | amro | erg can destroy |
| 22:26.03 | amro | zerglings alone are useless about 10 minutes in |
| 22:26.04 | Lunessa | LOL - http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27187854786/what-am-i-to-do-with-7k+-honor-points/ |
| 22:26.17 | cbreak | depends on where they are |
| 22:26.19 | amro | you can't go mass anything as zerg- except mass mutas, and that has issues |
| 22:26.37 | cbreak | mass infestors looks fun |
| 22:26.45 | amro | it's also bad |
| 22:26.50 | amro | infestors need cover |
| 22:27.12 | amro | currently, I lean towards ling/hydra/festor |
| 22:27.15 | amro | or roach/hydra/festor |
| 22:27.36 | cbreak | you can conjure yourself an army :) |
| 22:28.06 | Cide | until you run out of mana or they scan :P |
| 22:28.21 | cbreak | mass ravens have the same problem |
| 22:28.27 | cbreak | well... appart from not being burried |
| 22:28.46 | Cide | and being equally bad :P |
| 22:28.51 | cbreak | no |
| 22:28.53 | cbreak | it's fun |
| 22:28.58 | cbreak | at least when it works... |
| 22:29.06 | cbreak | mass auto turrets |
| 22:29.12 | cbreak | with a bit of hunter seekers :) |
| 22:29.34 | amro | ravens are also more expensive |
| 22:29.46 | cbreak | what is bad is for example mass marauders |
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| 22:30.07 | amro | depends who you ask :P |
| 22:30.16 | cbreak | the guy with an air force. |
| 22:30.23 | amro | marauders + vikings |
| 22:30.24 | amro | solved |
| 22:30.32 | amro | the guy with immortals is a bigger concern |
| 22:30.49 | amro | terran have a lot of flexibility |
| 22:30.49 | cbreak | immortals are pricy |
| 22:30.58 | amro | and a surprising amount of their problems are solved with "get marines" |
| 22:31.04 | amro | which are cheap and easy to mass |
| 22:31.13 | cbreak | not as easy as zerglings :) |
| 22:31.19 | amro | easier |
| 22:31.22 | amro | unless you have 4 hatches |
| 22:31.27 | amro | getting lings will cripple you |
| 22:31.28 | Cide | marines are way better than zerglings though |
| 22:31.51 | amro | late game I get 2-3 extra hatches JUST so I can remass lings after a fight without using all my larva |
| 22:32.18 | cbreak | I can't mass marines without building multiple barracks either... :) |
| 22:32.41 | amro | you're missing the point |
| 22:32.54 | amro | you can rebuild your marines while building SCVs, medivacs, and thors at the same time |
| 22:32.54 | Cide | doesn't stop you from producing medivacs or battlecruisers or tanks or hellions or ... though |
| 22:32.59 | amro | ^ |
| 22:33.01 | Cide | ^ |
| 22:33.03 | Cide | HA |
| 22:33.10 | Cide | afk studying |
| 22:33.25 | cbreak | making zerglings doesn't require me to spend all larva on it |
| 22:33.34 | cbreak | zerg have much more flexibility |
| 22:33.44 | Cide | that's true in one regard |
| 22:33.45 | cbreak | since they can use one building to build all units |
| 22:33.54 | cbreak | (besides those that morph in from others) |
| 22:34.10 | Cide | they can spend their full production capacity on any unit composition pretty much instantly |
| 22:34.21 | Cide | but that comes with said disadvantages also |
| 22:34.26 | cbreak | and they can produce in bursts |
| 22:34.38 | cbreak | no other race can save up production capacity |
| 22:34.44 | Cide | no |
| 22:34.49 | Cide | but no other race needs that production capacity |
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| 22:34.54 | Cide | in a 200v200 the zerg will lose |
| 22:35.09 | Cide | and then it becomes a 100v150 and maybe the zerg wins because of production capacity |
| 22:35.19 | cbreak | I'd say that depends on more factors than just race |
| 22:35.36 | Cide | not if both players are unstupid |
| 22:35.52 | amro | also, a lot of zerg units take forever to hatch |
| 22:35.58 | amro | like ultras and broodlords |
| 22:36.04 | amro | and it takes longer to tech |
| 22:36.14 | amro | and you pretty much need to have +1 base on your opponent |
| 22:36.21 | cbreak | so you say zergs suck? :) |
| 22:36.24 | amro | no |
| 22:36.28 | amro | they're just harder |
| 22:36.34 | cbreak | I play random |
| 22:36.40 | cbreak | and I seem tow in more with other races |
| 22:36.41 | amro | not so much at the highest level |
| 22:36.47 | cbreak | but I didn't make any detailed statistics |
| 22:37.13 | amro | it takes a lot more to get across that threshold of being competitively good with zerg than it does with terran or protoss |
| 22:37.23 | amro | t/p both have some very easy builds that are very effective regardless of skill |
| 22:37.44 | cbreak | I haven't reached the "yay, I have a build" level |
| 22:38.10 | amro | it took me a while to "get" zerg |
| 22:38.13 | amro | and larva management |
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| 22:39.37 | penborn | ello |
| 22:43.34 | airtonix | Is there some kind of irc client for android that has tab completion? |
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| 22:51.48 | Kraps | pwnage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a1-GRdVG4I |
| 22:52.55 | amro | don't smoke |
| 22:53.30 | Kraps | hurr |
| 22:57.21 | Kraps | oh look a commenter supposes the husky was using a maphack |
| 22:57.46 | Kraps | i say good sir, FUCK YOU |
| 22:58.38 | amro | lol |
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| 23:01.18 | amro | Kraps: that's why I hate DQ |
| 23:01.36 | amro | it favors P and T for expansions, since they can take their time and kill the rocks |
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| 23:04.19 | foxlit | d-who? |
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| 23:08.10 | Angayelle | so i'm doing a : if (event == "PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE") then for i = 1,9 do local enabled,_,_,id = GetGlyphSocketInfo(i) to get info if my glyph s on, but can i setup something so it stop scanning other glyph if (id == 61205) is returned true ? |
| 23:09.38 | Angayelle | and i don't want to use unregisterevent since i want to be able to scan again upon talent/glyph change |
| 23:10.30 | Wobin | are there no glyph related events? |
| 23:11.00 | Angayelle | there is glyph_added and glyph_removed |
| 23:11.42 | Wobin | what are you trying to accomplish overall? |
| 23:12.32 | Angayelle | my problem is that my function all the slots and if it find the glyph on slot 5 for example and return true, it will continue scanning th remaining slots and then return false for them, thus borking everything |
| 23:12.47 | Angayelle | function scan* |
| 23:13.27 | Kraps | this is husky? http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/521567/Huskies |
| 23:13.34 | Angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141612-o21j |
| 23:14.41 | Angayelle | i'm sure there is a smart way to do such check but i'm lost |
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| 23:29.28 | foxlit_ | they broke WHOIS on freenode? |
| 23:29.41 | foxlit_ | WHOIS foxlit_: "330: foxlit_ foxlit is logged in as" |
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| 23:32.44 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: why would you think its broken? |
| 23:33.01 | foxlit | "is logged in as (no text here)" |
| 23:33.22 | Arrowmaster | thats just your client not knowing how to format it |
| 23:34.11 | Arrowmaster | the variables always come before the static text in the raw messages |
| 23:34.57 | kd3 | ooh |
| 23:35.05 | kd3 | finally got around to doing the new beta build UI diff |
| 23:35.19 | kd3 | +SLASH_CANCELQUEUEDSPELL1 = "/cancelqueuedspell" |
| 23:35.34 | Arrowmaster | so the "330: foxlit_ foxlit is logged in as" after formatting by the client becomes "foxlit_ is logged in as foxlit" |
| 23:35.53 | foxlit | meep. |
| 23:35.53 | foxlit | and that makes sense |
| 23:39.29 | kd3 | also, it looks like I was right with the email I sent out for 4.0.1 |
| 23:39.41 | kd3 | no diff from the enUS zip and my first email |
| 23:39.42 | kd3 | yay |
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| 23:43.06 | Yssaril | kd3: do you know if this means that we will never get the addonkit back or is this just their temporary solution? |
| 23:43.12 | kd3 | dunno |
| 23:43.47 | foxlit | I can't imagine them bothering to update the posted zips everytime |
| 23:44.11 | foxlit | It's just that there is a certain amount of work to be done in recoding the UI kit, and they have bigger fish to fry with cataclysm/patch releases at the moment. |
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| 23:53.15 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1314022657 |
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| 23:56.05 | Napoleone | sup |
| 23:56.18 | Napoleone | anyone got problems with nameplates and names NOT showing? |
| 23:56.54 | cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18260-NameplateFix.html |
| 23:56.57 | cairenn | Napoleone: ^^ |
| 23:57.32 | Torhal | cairenn: Oh, almost forgot to pester you |
| 23:58.08 | cairenn | Torhal: you have 5 minutes |
| 23:58.44 | Torhal | cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16966-AckisRecipeList2.0.html <-- this was the beta for 2.0, which I released some months ago. Could it be removed? |
| 23:58.56 | cairenn | gone |
| 23:59.08 | Torhal | Danke. |
| 23:59.15 | cairenn | next? |
| 23:59.22 | Torhal | Also, Ackis said there were no controls he could see to transfer ARL and Collectinator to me |
| 23:59.43 | cairenn | link to them, link to your profile, please |
