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| 00:37.13 | p3lim | anyone got a suggestion for a video player for ubuntu? |
| 00:37.27 | A-KO | vlc? mplayer? |
| 00:37.49 | Jerub | vlc |
| 00:37.58 | p3lim | vlc didnt work well with HD movies (lagging), and MPlayer didnt have any kind of GUI |
| 00:38.44 | A-KO | yeah |
| 00:38.46 | A-KO | that's about right |
| 00:38.53 | A-KO | got the proper video drivers installed? |
| 00:38.57 | p3lim | for windows Ive used Zoom Player for quite a while, its great |
| 00:39.17 | p3lim | yeah, MPlayer nor the default player that came with ubuntu didnt lag |
| 00:40.00 | Thunder_Child | vlc works well with HD if you have the computer for it |
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| 00:40.23 | Thunder_Child | the only one i have issue with is a 800MB mpg file |
| 00:40.23 | p3lim | its a shitty (but new) $700 laptop |
| 00:40.41 | p3lim | though it should handle atleast 720p movies just well, and using MPlayer that was proven |
| 00:41.41 | p3lim | only requirements I see in a video player is that it runs smooth, had configurations for sound/subtitles and lets me alter the aspect ratio |
| 00:41.48 | p3lim | has* |
| 00:42.02 | A-KO | pretty sure vlc and mplayer are your best choices |
| 00:42.44 | p3lim | i tried altering the configuration in VLC to fix the lagging, but it didnt seem to work |
| 00:43.14 | p3lim | and as said, mplayer doesnt have a gui |
| 00:44.21 | Arrowmaster | smplayer is a good gui for mplayer |
| 00:46.43 | p3lim | Ill try smplayer |
| 00:47.15 | p3lim | does it allow subtitle configuration and custom aspect ratios? |
| 00:47.17 | Arrowmaster | do you know what video card you have? |
| 00:47.19 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:47.20 | p3lim | atleast 16:9 |
| 00:48.53 | p3lim | got an ATI Radeon HD4250 |
| 00:49.34 | Arrowmaster | ok then you probably want to use the xv video output |
| 00:50.06 | p3lim | smplayer runs my 720p movie smooth atleast |
| 00:50.16 | p3lim | with default configuration too |
| 00:51.05 | p3lim | it also has extensive support of aspect ratios |
| 00:51.20 | Arrowmaster | you really shouldnt need those |
| 00:51.22 | p3lim | thanks for the tip, I think I'll stick to smplayer |
| 00:51.42 | Arrowmaster | it should do everything correctly with aspect ratios automatically |
| 00:51.45 | A-KO | p3lim: just a heads up, AMD/ATI is known for its shitty linux support |
| 00:51.50 | A-KO | just an FYI |
| 00:52.08 | p3lim | yeah I am aware of the shitty support, though I got the latest drivers installed successfully |
| 00:52.11 | Arrowmaster | actually the only time ive had issues with aspect ratios has been with realmedia files i think |
| 00:52.32 | p3lim | I don't have an issue per say, just that the "auto" feature most player have does not work |
| 00:52.56 | p3lim | so I have to set it myself, even if there is stretching of picture involved |
| 00:53.04 | p3lim | (i really hate black bars) |
| 00:53.34 | Arrowmaster | oh you want everything forced to 16:9? |
| 00:53.38 | p3lim | yeah |
| 00:53.48 | p3lim | "fit to screen" basically |
| 00:54.16 | p3lim | smplayer allows that |
| 00:56.26 | p3lim | the configuration GUI is great too :) |
| 00:58.26 | Arrowmaster | i like the 'mini gui' style although i might have edited it too, i know you can mess with the config file and change what appears on the bar |
| 01:00.27 | p3lim | Ill probably read up on the docs when I have time to play around with it |
| 01:04.29 | Arrowmaster | damnit i want to go back to reading this book but i know i shouldnt, i planned on saving it for the flights to and from blizzcon |
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| 01:28.28 | Aznamir | hi all |
| 01:28.58 | Aznamir | can anyone help me with key bindings? |
| 01:29.10 | Iriel | probably |
| 01:29.19 | Aznamir | If i define it like "<Binding name="CLICK PallyPowerAuraBtn:RightButton"/>@ |
| 01:29.27 | Aznamir | is there a way to make it look pretty? |
| 01:29.30 | Iriel | Yes |
| 01:29.37 | Iriel | one sec while I find a line to show you |
| 01:30.03 | Iriel | _G["BINDING_NAME_CLICK PopupActionsButton:pg1"] = "Toggle popup bar 1 (Red)"; |
| 01:30.29 | Aznamir | what's ":pg1" ? |
| 01:30.31 | Shirik | how to know you're downloading a crappy program: |
| 01:30.39 | Shirik | "Prerequisite: You need Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or above to run this version." |
| 01:31.02 | Iriel | It's a custom button |
| 01:31.06 | Iriel | Rather than RightButton |
| 01:31.37 | Iriel | You'd use BINDING_NAME_PallyPowerAuraBtn:RightButton |
| 01:32.54 | Aznamir | ok, thanks |
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| 01:36.10 | tem | test |
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| 02:05.39 | Aznamir | Yay! That worked! |
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| 02:34.19 | cog|away | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_h6AEAlFIY |
| 02:36.23 | kd3 | damn it, blackboard. stop locking up firefox just to load your crappy java applet |
| 02:36.25 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:02.41 | Dagmar | Damn, I supose I'd better spend those badges tonight |
| 03:03.18 | alestane | Because tomorrow you may die? |
| 03:03.22 | Dagmar | I'm not really happy about them deflating so horribly with 4.x |
| 03:04.05 | ranguvar | Dagmar: want to be happy about it? |
| 03:04.42 | Dagmar | I'd rather be happy with them being converted to an equivalent value |
| 03:05.40 | Dagmar | I've got 107 frost badges after last night's ICC run |
| 03:05.59 | Dagmar | THat won't buy me a shiny piece of candy on Wednesday, apparently |
| 03:06.16 | Dagmar | I spend them tonight, I can buy a breastplate |
| 03:08.16 | nebula | uh, if you have 95 badges for a chest, you'll have 1100 jp for that same chest come tuesday |
| 03:09.01 | alestane | Has someone actually announced the patch? |
| 03:09.28 | Dagmar | nebula: Where'd they post that? ALl I found was some scary thing talking about a 1:1 conversion |
| 03:09.40 | Dagmar | https://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14574620792&sid=1 |
| 03:09.44 | nebula | 11.58 jp per badge, frost or triumph |
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| 03:10.03 | Dagmar | Okay cool |
| 03:10.19 | Kraps | alestane: bibi supposes this tuesday |
| 03:10.30 | Dagmar | COnsidering I'm not planning on collecting much more before Cata it's going to be some hassle doing the analysis as to which bit gets me the most deeps |
| 03:10.59 | Dagmar | ...at least I can now run my DK without feeling like I'm wasting my time |
| 03:11.20 | Dagmar | He's got exactly one piece of T9. |
| 03:12.24 | nebula | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026323214&sid=1 |
| 03:13.47 | Kraps | "This guy is an idiot. Music should NEVER be made to make money or profit. I am a musician myself and I pirate my own music just to spread good music to the world." |
| 03:14.01 | Kraps | derp? |
| 03:16.00 | alestane | That sounds like sarcasm. |
| 03:16.26 | Kraps | nope |
| 03:16.37 | Kraps | "I've spend thousands of dollars on gear not to make a profit, but to turn my talents into good music and bring some enjoyment into peoples lives. That alone should be the inspiration for recording music. People should support bands by buying their shirts and seeing them live. Buying CD's help but artists should focus less on the money" |
| 03:17.20 | Dagmar | He left out the bit about groupies. |
| 03:18.27 | alestane | Well, normally I won't recommend choosing any career if you don't also want to do it for its own sake. But there is this thing about making a living, and music has never been an easy field for it to begin with. |
| 03:23.06 | Thunder_Child | about as easy as being an english lit major |
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| 04:58.58 | Adys | Jerub: ping |
| 04:59.05 | Jerub | Adys: pong |
| 04:59.18 | Adys | Jerub: remember my renderer from yesterday? |
| 04:59.19 | Adys | er |
| 04:59.22 | Adys | from a few days ago |
| 04:59.31 | Jerub | uh, the problem you had with rst? |
| 04:59.42 | Adys | nah |
| 04:59.47 | Adys | the tooltip renderer |
| 04:59.51 | Adys | terminal one |
| 04:59.56 | Adys | anyway, ported it to html |
| 04:59.57 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/out.htm |
| 05:00.40 | Adys | Jerub: http://dpaste.com/256151/ |
| 05:00.48 | Jerub | oh wait, yeah |
| 05:01.02 | Jerub | wasn't it already html? |
| 05:01.07 | Adys | nop |
| 05:01.10 | Jerub | oh right. |
| 05:01.11 | Adys | it was using termcolor :) |
| 05:01.23 | Jerub | Adys: okay, now i want pure css tooltips :D |
| 05:01.26 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/10/10/beaststalkers-pants.png |
| 05:01.36 | Adys | what do you mean, pure css? |
| 05:01.46 | Jerub | Adys: zero javascript tooltips |
| 05:01.49 | Jerub | using static html and css |
| 05:01.50 | Jerub | :P |
| 05:01.54 | Adys | this IS zero js :) |
| 05:02.02 | Jerub | using css to make it appear in an iframe |
| 05:02.11 | Jerub | er floating div |
| 05:02.14 | Adys | Im not sure i understand |
| 05:02.27 | Jerub | Adys: let me steal that for a sec. |
| 05:05.10 | tem | Anyone know if ZG is still available on the PTR? (i.e. will still be available after the patch hits) |
| 05:06.45 | Adys | tem: likely |
| 05:07.04 | Adys | i dont see them removing zg before the oldworld->newworld change |
| 05:10.38 | Jerub | Adys: http://leaf.posterous.com/ |
| 05:11.20 | Adys | Jerub: i dont get it; what about it? |
| 05:12.32 | Jerub | Adys: hover over the link to the schematic |
| 05:13.00 | Adys | im not sure what you're trying to do, but it's broken in chrome |
| 05:13.08 | Jerub | oh, right. let me open chrome |
| 05:13.41 | Jerub | Adys: ffs. |
| 05:13.44 | Jerub | chrome sucks. |
| 05:13.52 | Jerub | Adys: look at it in a real browser like FF |
| 05:14.56 | Adys | you can't do what you're doing here |
| 05:15.02 | Adys | it's very, very illegal |
| 05:15.44 | Jerub | *chortle* |
| 05:15.58 | Adys | what you want is <div class="overlay"><a href="blah" style="width: 100%; display: block">Link</a><div class="tooltip">...</div></div> |
| 05:16.04 | Adys | and to .overlay, you add the hover effect |
| 05:16.19 | Jerub | let me just test this in MSIE for a sec |
| 05:18.14 | ranguvar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.52 | Jerub | ranguvar: the onhover thing on my blog? |
| 05:21.45 | Adys | nethertheless, it's a bad idea; tooltips can be heavy, html-wise |
| 05:21.47 | Adys | i mean |
| 05:21.58 | Adys | if you really want this sort of behaviour |
| 05:21.59 | Jerub | Adys: my blog can't support any javascript because it's on posterous. |
| 05:22.02 | Adys | you can use an iframe |
| 05:22.21 | Adys | Jerub: http://db.mmo-champion.com/i20001/tooltip |
| 05:22.22 | Adys | iframe this |
| 05:22.24 | ranguvar | Jerub: Hmm? I haven't tried using it myself, but your blog itself is working fine (nothing showing besides underlines when hovered, was something supposed to show?) |
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| 05:22.34 | Adys | include http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/css/tooltip.css |
| 05:22.36 | Adys | and voila |
| 05:22.43 | Adys | ranguvar: he's trying to have a hide/show on hover |
| 05:24.42 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzskRsAviK0 |
| 05:26.58 | Jamash | quake 2 was very brown |
| 05:27.11 | Jamash | as was quake 1 |
| 05:27.19 | Jamash | and every id software game for that matter |
| 05:27.29 | Jerub | quake1? |
| 05:27.36 | haste | spent several hours playing action quake 2 this weekend. |
| 05:27.38 | Jerub | brown brown brown and OH LOOK MORE BROWN! |
| 05:29.01 | Jamash | maybe some day id will discover the concept of a "palette" |
| 05:29.21 | Jamash | not gonna hold my breath though |
| 05:30.00 | Jerub | meh |
| 05:30.01 | Jerub | we have tf2 |
| 05:30.15 | Jerub | which is a beautiful game with rich colour |
| 05:31.52 | Shirik | you know what else is a beautiful game with rich color (but not colour)? |
| 05:32.04 | Trela | Bejeweled 2? |
| 05:33.19 | Shirik | hm I can't think of a crappy game in color |
| 05:33.25 | Shirik | so instead I'll pick a game of awesomeness |
| 05:33.27 | Shirik | tohou project |
| 05:33.28 | Jamash | hey I saw a trailer for Rage at PAX |
| 05:33.39 | Jamash | guess what color it is |
| 05:33.52 | Jamash | You get three guesses and the first two don't count |
| 05:34.28 | Jamash | I'l give you a hint, it starts with "b" and rhymes with "down" |
| 05:36.02 | Jamash | it's also borderlands |
| 05:38.14 | DWSR | Happy (Canadian) turkey day. |
| 05:43.03 | Jamash | pfft, canada |
| 05:53.11 | Fisker | Shirik is a jerk |
| 05:57.47 | Shirik | Fisker is <3 |
| 05:58.21 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:58.39 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 05:58.41 | Shirik | nighty night time |
| 05:59.52 | Fisker | goodbye |
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| 07:09.13 | Jerub | Adys: um, mmo-champ, there's a bug in the tooltips on that glyph thing |
| 07:09.57 | Jerub | Adys: if you look at the druid major glyph, 'starfall' the tooltip says thorns... |
| 07:10.28 | Adys | Jerub: link? |
| 07:11.00 | Jerub | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2008-Patch-4.0.1-Classes-pages-WoWTal-Glyph-Preview |
| 07:11.31 | Adys | its fine here, does link starfall |
| 07:11.39 | Jerub | all the tooltips surrounding it seem wrong too |
| 07:11.45 | Jerub | *reloads* |
| 07:12.07 | Adys | its probably a desync somewhere |
| 07:12.15 | Adys | the curse servers have been acting up lately |
| 07:12.20 | Jerub | oh right |
| 07:12.50 | Adys | so Jerub I need your opinion |
| 07:12.57 | Jerub | on what? |
| 07:13.08 | Adys | some method of caching/indexing files |
| 07:13.10 | Adys | basically |
| 07:13.18 | Adys | in my new backend, I'm using DBCs directly |
| 07:13.48 | Adys | but that also means that every time i restart the app, it has to parse the file again |
| 07:14.14 | Adys | i got loads of optimizations, selective parsing, etc; but some operations require me to iterate through the entire file |
| 07:15.12 | Jerub | a DBC? that's an actual wow data file? |
| 07:15.12 | Adys | I want to write a disk cache for all this that would allow me to parse stuff faster in the first place without having to iterate through the file and what not |
| 07:15.15 | Adys | yes |
| 07:15.24 | Adys | they're simple table files |
| 07:15.27 | Jerub | ponders blizzard using it to XSS attack mmo-champ |
| 07:16.01 | Adys | point is |
| 07:16.14 | Adys | this disk cache, I dont know if i should just make it a dictionary and pickle it |
| 07:16.33 | Adys | or write an actual text file |
| 07:17.19 | Adys | what thinks you? |
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| 07:22.12 | Jerub | Adys: um, it really depends on the data. |
| 07:22.30 | Jerub | Adys: i would lean towards going to either a memcache type thing if it's just key/value stuff. |
| 07:22.36 | Jerub | or a real db if you want to query it |
| 07:22.46 | Adys | i dont want the overhead of a sql db |
| 07:22.53 | Adys | im using sql for other stuff (search, ..) |
| 07:23.14 | Jerub | also, omg, i only just saw the new version of thorns from cata |
| 07:23.15 | Jerub | :D |
| 07:23.16 | Adys | but, I want something that lasts longer than memcache |
| 07:24.39 | Fisker | load everything to memory |
| 07:24.40 | Fisker | even your moms birthday |
| 07:24.59 | Adys | I'm already loading to memory; I want to have a disk cache to last between sessions |
| 07:26.55 | Jerub | hm, a dict on disk may be the best way |
| 07:27.06 | Adys | so pickling is a good solution? |
| 07:27.20 | Adys | i can tweak if necessary, I just want to know if it's the completely wrong way to go or something |
| 07:27.50 | Jerub | it sounds crap tbh but if it's what you have in memory to begin with, then sure, use it |
| 07:28.36 | Adys | it's not, |
| 07:29.21 | Adys | but I want to be able to populate a long-lasting cache and write it to disk every few minutes so that every time I restart the app I dont have to repopulate it |
| 07:29.26 | Adys | think some sort of sql index |
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| 07:29.48 | Dagmar | Perl Tie::Hash. ;) |
| 07:30.51 | Adys | Dagmar: that's called pickling in python |
| 07:30.57 | Adys | which is what im leaning towards |
| 07:32.08 | Jamash | I don't see why not |
| 07:32.29 | Jamash | you want data persistence, pickling = data persistence, go |
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| 07:34.06 | Jamash | crap, extended maintenance |
| 07:34.09 | Jamash | must finish addon |
| 07:37.34 | zenzio | was it 4.0.1 that would bring tradeskill experience? |
| 07:38.32 | Jamash | dunno |
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| 07:41.02 | Jamash | goddamn buggy addons, who writes this crap |
| 07:41.14 | zenzio | are you still working on your own? |
| 07:44.35 | Jamash | yes |
| 07:44.51 | zenzio | then don't be so hard on yourself, we all write bad code sometimes |
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| 07:51.51 | Jamash | heh |
| 07:51.57 | Jamash | hmm, my pet bar is gone |
| 07:52.02 | Jamash | this seems suboptimal |
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| 08:00.21 | Dagmar | It's called "challenge mode" |
| 08:00.42 | Dagmar | The challenge is to stay alive, now that your pet can change between passive and aggro modes randomly, and you can't do anything about it. |
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| 08:09.40 | zenzio | http://www.zug.com/live/85693/The-iPhone-vs-Tin-Cans-Experiment.html |
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| 08:21.41 | cairenn | lol - "Well, if my steering wheel comes off we'll lose control of the truck, crash and everyone will die. That's pretty much standard procedure if your steering wheel comes off." |
| 08:21.59 | zenzio | :-) |
| 08:22.10 | cairenn | hell of a line, hey? |
| 08:22.19 | zenzio | quite |
| 08:22.23 | cairenn | so very matter of fact about it |
| 08:23.28 | zenzio | "We're surrounded, sir!" " Yes, quite." |
| 08:23.33 | zenzio | name the movie |
| 08:25.43 | cairenn | Well, if the response is "Yes, quite" the movie, or at least the character being portrayed is pretty much guaranteed to be British |
| 08:26.25 | zenzio | indeed he is |
| 08:26.30 | zenzio | played by Sean Connery, no less |
| 08:27.20 | zenzio | might be a bit of a tricky quote to name, since it's not really a major scene in the movie |
| 08:27.26 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/graphjam/~3/PEOY3faaQrA/ |
| 08:27.29 | zenzio | but it's from "A bridge too far" |
| 08:27.42 | cairenn | Wasn't sure if it was that one, or Band of Brothers |
| 08:27.43 | Ycarene | Anyone remember BBS's? |
| 08:27.47 | cairenn | Since it's in both |
| 08:28.01 | zenzio | Adys: nice |
| 08:28.48 | cairenn | Another good one is "Sir, we're surrounded." "We're paratroopers, we're supposed to be surrounded." |
| 08:28.49 | zenzio | cairenn: hm, didn't recall it being in Band of Brothers as well. I might have chosen not to remember, since one don't simply steal Mr. Connery's lines |
| 08:29.15 | zenzio | that's also a good one :) |
| 08:30.15 | zenzio | "A bridge too far" had a remarkable number of great actors |
| 08:30.26 | cairenn | Aye, indeed |
| 08:32.35 | zenzio | "Doesn't matter what it was. When one man says to another, "I know what let's do today, let's play the war game."... everybody dies. " |
| 08:32.54 | cairenn | heh |
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| 08:35.21 | airtonix | lets play the war game |
| 08:35.45 | cairenn | As the song goes: "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing." |
| 08:35.52 | airtonix | good for factory workers |
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| 08:36.21 | airtonix | see the amount of tanks they pumped out in soviet russia during ww2 ? |
| 08:36.21 | Avis | radeon 5770 1g vs gtx 460 768mb at same price ? |
| 08:36.58 | airtonix | maybe not soviet russia, but that place in that time... |
| 08:37.28 | zenzio | Soviet Union |
| 08:37.50 | zenzio | and the US cranked out quite a few themselves |
| 08:41.32 | airtonix | not as many as the russians |
| 08:41.33 | airtonix | not by far |
| 08:41.45 | airtonix | then again |
| 08:41.56 | airtonix | they both had the same financial source in the end |
| 08:42.02 | airtonix | weee inb4 rage |
| 08:42.31 | zenzio | not entirely, but the Soviets definitely did get a lot of help |
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| 09:06.54 | Fisker | slaps cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:07.12 | Jamash | hmm, reset my UI and my pet bar is back |
| 09:07.14 | cairenn | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 09:08.08 | Jamash | slaps a large trout around a bit with a different, larger trout. |
| 09:10.10 | Wobin | largely trouts with a slap around a bit |
| 09:12.02 | Jamash | I hope nameplates are fixed in the build that's going live |
| 09:12.35 | cbreak_work | as long as I can turn them off... |
| 09:14.11 | Jamash | yeah turning them off works |
| 09:14.18 | Jamash | turning them on, not so much |
| 09:15.32 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: there might be a CVar to turn on overlapping nameplates.. or they removed it. |
| 09:15.38 | jnwhiteh | spreadnameplates |
| 09:15.53 | jnwhiteh | that's one CVar that's available :P |
| 09:17.02 | Jamash | the problem is I check all the boxes in the nameplates options, but nameplates only show up for some units |
| 09:17.23 | Jamash | kind of at random |
| 09:22.00 | jnwhiteh | well the options dont' always reflect the available cvars =) |
| 09:22.09 | jnwhiteh | that's why my cvar scan is a bit more in-depth |
| 09:26.23 | Jamash | Man I really screwed up on updating my addon, I should have gotten this out weeks ago |
| 09:26.53 | Jamash | I was thinking "I need to finish this by cata" instead I should have been thinking "I need to finish this by 4.x pre-cata patch" |
| 09:28.02 | unfo- | is the PTR content coming this week to live? |
| 09:29.01 | Jamash | almost certainly, they've announced extended maintenance |
| 09:31.32 | Adys | cookie to the one who can find the name of the lawyer/doctor/whateverheis in s8e13 of seinfeld |
| 09:31.39 | Adys | the name of the actor, that is |
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| 09:43.14 | Cide | amro: halp |
| 09:43.18 | Cide | kdevelop is failing |
| 09:44.00 | unfo- | Jamash, ah. ty for info |
| 09:45.16 | Jamash | Adys: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697678/ |
| 09:45.46 | Adys | Cide: sup |
| 09:45.52 | Cide | so I run the debugger |
| 09:45.55 | Cide | and it works fine |
| 09:46.04 | Cide | but when I try to use gdb it says it's not running in a popup |
| 09:46.10 | Cide | but then I close the popup and gdb responds |
| 09:46.13 | Cide | and then kdevelop crashes |
| 09:46.21 | Adys | tried compiling kdevelop? |
| 09:46.25 | Cide | no |
| 09:46.28 | Cide | I will now |
| 09:46.31 | Cide | but I shouldn't have to |
| 09:46.48 | Cide | are the repository versionsf ail? |
| 09:46.54 | Cide | s/f ail/ fail/ |
| 09:46.54 | Adys | yeah :/ |
| 09:47.01 | Adys | also |
| 09:47.02 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/10/11/and-the-race-is-on.png |
| 09:47.25 | Cide | well done |
| 09:47.26 | Jamash | yay, mana |
| 09:47.37 | Cide | current stable or current testing, Adys ? |
| 09:47.49 | Jamash | mana is rad for hunters imo |
| 09:47.55 | Adys | Cide: current what? |
| 09:48.06 | Cide | what source release |
| 09:48.10 | Cide | current testing or current stable |
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| 09:48.36 | Adys | idk |
| 09:48.39 | Adys | testing id say |
| 09:49.13 | Jamash | fail set bonus is fail |
| 09:49.49 | Jamash | I wonder what the 6/8 beaststalker set bonus will do in 4.0 |
| 09:49.57 | Jamash | probably nothing |
| 09:50.30 | Adys | Jamash: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0825401/ |
| 09:50.33 | Adys | knew i heard the voice |
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| 10:05.48 | Jamash | herp derp I made another infinite loop |
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| 10:45.18 | amro | Cide: clone from git im |
| 10:45.19 | amro | imo |
| 10:46.36 | amro | Cide: http://www.kdevelop.org/mediawiki/index.php/KDevelop_4/compiling |
| 10:47.01 | amro | run cmake with -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr |
| 10:47.54 | amro | http://kate-editor.org/get-it/ might want to get that first |
| 10:48.05 | amro | kdevelop uses katepart |
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| 11:14.14 | Xinhuan | who's done server xfers here before |
| 11:14.25 | Xinhuan | got a question about char names |
| 11:14.29 | unfo- | i've done |
| 11:14.34 | unfo- | plenty |
| 11:14.45 | Xinhuan | when you reach the destination server, are u forced to do a namechange? |
| 11:14.54 | unfo- | nope if the name is not taken |
| 11:15.03 | Xinhuan | but is the option there to change it? |
| 11:15.21 | unfo- | not with just change, i don't think |
| 11:15.31 | unfo- | but i've mostly done migr+faction change and then there is |
| 11:15.44 | Xinhuan | ok what if lets say i want to xfer Xinhuan from A to B, and i have a Xinhuan on B |
| 11:15.58 | Cide | amro: yeah but I already have it installed |
| 11:16.02 | Xinhuan | can i xfer first, then delete the Xinhuan on B, and rename the xferred char to the deleted Xinhuan on B? |
| 11:16.02 | Cide | can I just build into /usr then anyway? |
| 11:16.03 | zenzio | then you'd get Xinhuan384234 or some other fancy number |
| 11:16.19 | zenzio | Xinhuan: hm, not sure about that situation |
| 11:16.38 | zenzio | I think I got stuck unable to do that once, but it may have been different circumstance |
| 11:17.05 | Cide | it's easiest if you get someone else to create Xinhuan I think |
| 11:17.11 | Cide | and have them remove it after |
| 11:17.19 | Xinhuan | i already have my name reserved on it 3 years ago |
| 11:17.25 | Cide | haha |
| 11:17.25 | Cide | okay |
| 11:17.32 | Xinhuan | i just want to know if i should delete that lvl 1 before xfer |
| 11:17.36 | Xinhuan | or if its safe to delete it after xfer |
| 11:17.48 | zenzio | I thinkI (at the time) got stuck with the name locked for 90 days |
| 11:18.03 | Cide | well if your name is already Xinhuan and you want to keep it I would just delete it first |
| 11:18.13 | Cide | I doubt someone else will snag it in the hour |
| 11:18.17 | Cide | but /shrug |
| 11:18.38 | Cide | unless you name your server in which case I might |
| 11:19.08 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 11:19.47 | Xinhuan | considering you are on EU servers |
| 11:19.49 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 11:19.54 | Cide | I'm on both |
| 11:19.56 | Cide | >:) |
| 11:20.04 | Xinhuan | madness |
| 11:24.19 | unfo- | Xinhuan, if you wanna keep your name, it's easier to make sure that there is no char with same name on that server. but as Cide pointed out, someone COULD technically snatch it in the meanwhile. also I am not sure how long (if any) the grace period for char deletions is i.e. if you have Xinhuan on B, move from A getting Xinhuan12345 and then delete original Xinhuan i am not sure how long the server reserves the name => preventing Xinhuan12345 from being sa |
| 11:24.26 | unfo- | woah that was verbose |
| 11:24.54 | Xinhuan | i thought numbers aren't allowed in names |
| 11:25.06 | zenzio | "Yes. Each Faction Change purchase will also provide the target character with an included re-customization and optional name change." |
| 11:25.10 | zenzio | seems a name change IS included |
| 11:27.32 | Xinhuan | hmm no race change |
| 11:27.34 | Xinhuan | right |
| 11:27.41 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 11:28.03 | Xinhuan | to gnome or not to gnome |
| 11:28.06 | Xinhuan | that is the question |
| 11:28.21 | unfo- | zenzio, yeah fact. change, but not reg. migration |
| 11:28.21 | zenzio | one does not simply gnome into Mordor |
| 11:28.43 | unfo- | Xinhuan, numbers ==> Server forces you to change your name prior to login |
| 11:28.52 | zenzio | unfo-: ach, my bad - wrong FAQ |
| 11:29.34 | Xinhuan | sounds like i can xfer before deletion then |
| 11:29.39 | A-KO | Generally speaking, if you had a level 1 with a name, deleted the level 1, moved the char--you'll be in good shape |
| 11:29.42 | zenzio | also, if you get a placeholder name and try to change faction before changing the name, it doesn't work - or at least it didn't for me. Hung for many days, cancelled it, logged in and changed the name, tried faction change again... and it worked within hours |
| 11:30.03 | Xinhuan | server change here, not faction! |
| 11:33.51 | Cide | once you gnome, you can never g'nome |
| 11:34.22 | Cide | once you go gnome, you can never g'nome |
| 11:35.24 | Cide | wonder how long the fc13->14 update will take |
| 11:35.30 | Cide | 1.2G download size -_- |
| 11:35.57 | Xinhuan | fc? |
| 11:36.04 | Cide | fedora [core] |
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| 11:54.58 | Wobin | http://iwillnameyourband.wordpress.com/ |
| 11:56.02 | amro | Cide: uninstall it, then install from source into /usr |
| 11:56.22 | amro | otherwise, you're going to run into serious trouble with it loading an older plugin and crap like that |
| 11:56.29 | amro | = random crashes |
| 11:57.08 | amro | as far as katelibs, you can just install over the distro one it'll be fine |
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| 12:01.12 | Cide | amro: what if I built it from source? :P |
| 12:01.29 | amro | hang on |
| 12:01.45 | amro | find /usr/ -type f -name "*kdev*.so*" |
| 12:01.47 | amro | delete all those |
| 12:01.51 | amro | then install from git |
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| 12:02.28 | Cide | that works |
| 12:02.32 | Cide | once this update completes |
| 12:02.35 | Cide | in about 4 hours or so |
| 12:02.41 | Cide | updating ... 226/2830 |
| 12:04.30 | amro | Cide: http://pastebin.ca/1959229 < I use this to update, but it assumes an initial cmake has been run for each |
| 12:04.55 | amro | ignore the find at the bottom |
| 12:04.57 | amro | dunno how that got there |
| 12:05.02 | amro | clipboard fail |
| 12:07.04 | Fisker | I GOTTA PEE |
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| 12:26.02 | Fisker | imma about to explode Legorol |
| 12:28.09 | amro | as a result of misusing 'imma'? |
| 12:28.23 | Legorol | Fisker: why so hostile :( |
| 12:28.28 | Jamash | I was under the vague impression that AGI would grant 2 AP to hunters in cata |
| 12:28.43 | Legorol | doesn't it? :O i thought so too |
| 12:28.55 | Jamash | lemme see |
| 12:30.45 | Jamash | it does, the tooltip on the stat page is just worgn |
| 12:31.05 | Jamash | derp derp |
| 12:32.31 | Jamash | agility appears to increase hunter's melee AP by 1 and ranged AP by 2 |
| 12:32.43 | msoul | Would haste be > crit for classes like warriors/paladins? |
| 12:32.55 | Jamash | and the tooltip just says "increases AP by x" |
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| 12:35.58 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 12:36.46 | angayelle | all the changes in ui,event and so on for cata will be live aswell in 4.0.1, right ? |
| 12:38.29 | Jamash | most of the UI changes will be in 4.0.1, yes |
| 12:38.40 | Jamash | with a few exceptions (no guild leveling) |
| 12:42.28 | msoul | I'm pleased about the new talent tree |
| 12:42.38 | msoul | that will be around before cata |
| 12:45.04 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: you around? |
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| 13:06.59 | Kraps | does someone have a screeny of the towels on the blizz store? |
| 13:11.39 | zenzio | ooh, an "amg speak english on english survur!!" thread again... those always turn fun |
| 13:14.32 | Kraps | try this one http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/771470-WoW-Playerbase-a-reflection-of-communism |
| 13:16.20 | zenzio | hah |
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| 13:20.10 | zenzio | I'm fairly sure you could take his post and turn it into the same, but for capitalism |
| 13:20.55 | Kraps | thats what posters are saying |
| 13:21.08 | zenzio | aye, see that now :) |
| 13:21.29 | Kraps | especially in the part where he summarizes the post |
| 13:22.15 | zenzio | "I don't mean to generalise, it's just that all generalisations are incorrect and suck" |
| 13:23.42 | Kraps | haha |
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| 13:24.05 | Cide | fuck this |
| 13:24.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 13:24.14 | Cide | this is such a mess |
| 13:24.58 | Humbedooh | gives Cide a cookie. |
| 13:25.06 | Cide | now fglrx won't start |
| 13:25.09 | Cide | grrr |
| 13:25.30 | Kraps | gives Cide a chillaxative |
| 13:25.30 | Cide | brb |
| 13:26.47 | Thunder_Child | oh good job Kraps, he chillaxed off irc |
| 13:26.58 | Kraps | lulz |
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| 13:45.06 | zenzio | "Surprisingly, PVP in EVE is actually entirely consensual. You consent to it every time you log in." |
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| 13:45.27 | cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:45.28 | zenzio | runs off with Lopeppeppy |
| 13:46.31 | cairenn | nooo, you have to give her back, I need her! |
| 13:46.39 | zenzio | no, join us |
| 13:46.45 | zenzio | together we can rule the galaxy |
| 13:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Cairenn. |
| 13:46.54 | cairenn | hehehe |
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| 13:47.17 | Cide | sigh. |
| 13:47.34 | Cide | I'm so awful |
| 13:47.34 | Maldivia | an entire galaxy... too much administration... |
| 13:48.01 | zenzio | ssh, I'm trying to trick them |
| 13:48.19 | Cide | now I get to the login screen but when I login it goes about halfway through and then kicks me back to login |
| 13:48.44 | Maldivia | no wonder enemies always try to destroy instead of control |
| 13:50.07 | Thunder_Child | Cide: try a diff char? |
| 13:50.13 | Cide | yeah |
| 13:50.18 | Cide | if only fedora came with char creation |
| 13:50.24 | Cide | then I'd totally do that |
| 13:50.24 | Thunder_Child | oh |
| 13:50.40 | Thunder_Child | actaully, that would be nifty |
| 13:50.47 | zenzio | Cide: this is trouble starting after an upgrade? |
| 13:50.52 | Cide | yep |
| 13:51.12 | Maldivia | and what is the shell set to? nologin ? |
| 13:51.13 | Cide | and running the old kernels did the same thing |
| 13:51.21 | Cide | fuck if I know I'm horrible at this stuff |
| 13:51.55 | Cide | I tried changing to another terminal or whatever with ctrl+alt+f2 but it doesn't show up anything |
| 13:51.57 | Cide | contrary to before |
| 13:52.07 | Cide | oh, it was a common bug |
| 13:52.12 | Cide | maybe I can find a workaround |
| 13:53.13 | Cide | In qemu/kvm, if you install F-14 Beta images by selecting the grub option Install system with basic video driver or by adding kernel parameter xdriver=vesa, system will hang and show a black screen at the beginning of stage 2 where graphical anaconda is supposed to be displayed. No input works and other ttys are all black. This is due to VESA driver is not compatible with virtual cirrus card and will be fixed in Final cycle. |
| 13:53.18 | Cide | sweet |
| 13:53.24 | Cide | it will be fixed in an upcoming release! |
| 13:54.43 | Maldivia | change to another xdriver then ? |
| 13:55.15 | Cide | how? |
| 13:55.26 | Cide | during boot? |
| 13:55.31 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:55.37 | Cide | not sure how to do that |
| 13:55.45 | Maldivia | google it |
| 13:55.48 | Cide | I am |
| 13:55.50 | Maldivia | :) |
| 13:56.21 | Maldivia | during boot, you can usally get the boot prompt by pressing something |
| 13:56.57 | Maldivia | and then type something like boot /parh/to/kernel kernel-options |
| 13:57.34 | Maldivia | varies a bit depending on boot loader |
| 13:57.42 | Cide | yeah |
| 13:57.46 | Cide | just gotta find another driver |
| 13:57.51 | Maldivia | vga ? |
| 13:57.58 | Cide | maybe |
| 13:57.59 | Cide | can try that |
| 13:58.16 | Kraps | "The best tactic is MMM. Many Many Marines" |
| 13:58.20 | Maldivia | svga might also work |
| 13:58.44 | Maldivia | kraps, mine more minerals ? |
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| 14:04.03 | Maldivia | any luck ? |
| 14:04.08 | Cide | well at least it got me into a vt now |
| 14:04.13 | Cide | but it still won't let me log in |
| 14:04.36 | Cide | [ 2.482891] [drm:atom_dp_get_link_status] *ERROR* displayport link status failed |
| 14:04.39 | Cide | [ 2.730787] [drm:atom_dp_get_link_status] *ERROR* displayport link status failed |
| 14:04.58 | Cide | is what display 0 says |
| 14:05.12 | Maldivia | vga might not be compatible with dp ? |
| 14:05.21 | Cide | well I get the graphical interface and all that |
| 14:05.28 | Cide | but logging in aborts after like 2 sec |
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| 14:05.29 | Maldivia | ohh |
| 14:05.34 | Cide | and tosses me back at the login prompt |
| 14:06.15 | Cide | gotta try and find the fix on my laptop I guess |
| 14:06.26 | Wobin | cairenn: http://screencast.com/t/4mSz8gUt33F |
| 14:06.35 | cairenn | :) |
| 14:06.37 | Wobin | (That was yesterday) |
| 14:06.38 | Maldivia | well, you had a term... go go lynx |
| 14:07.21 | Cide | totally doing it |
| 14:07.49 | Maldivia | gui is so 2000 |
| 14:09.07 | Wobin | cairenn: http://screencast.com/t/vhRh9360 |
| 14:09.15 | Wobin | lion cub equivalent of "Gotcher nose" |
| 14:09.16 | cairenn | awwwww |
| 14:09.28 | Lopeppeppy | Pinned ya again! |
| 14:09.39 | Wobin | honestly, best $125 I spent |
| 14:13.22 | Wobin | http://www.lionencounter.com/pages/visit_victoria_falls.html |
| 14:13.51 | Lopeppeppy | Dude. Walk next to a lion and count your hands when you're done? |
| 14:14.03 | Wobin | I still had both! |
| 14:14.12 | Wobin | you have to approach them from behind to pat them |
| 14:14.17 | Maldivia | and all 11 fingers ? |
| 14:14.23 | Wobin | and use a stick to distract them |
| 14:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | Pet them! You're made of crazy sticks. |
| 14:15.12 | Wobin | Victoria Falls were stunning |
| 14:15.18 | Wobin | but the Lion walk was just awesome |
| 14:20.03 | Cide | I'm not even sure what the problem is sadly |
| 14:21.59 | Maldivia | :( |
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| 14:24.15 | Fisker | slaps cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:24.21 | Fisker | your c is small |
| 14:24.27 | cairenn | yup |
| 14:24.38 | Fisker | i disapprove |
| 14:24.46 | cairenn | heh |
| 14:25.23 | Fisker | only looks good on ckknight, jnwhiteh and maybe haste |
| 14:25.47 | ckknight | it just ain't right, cairenn |
| 14:25.51 | jnwhiteh | well cairenn is fairly curvy |
| 14:25.59 | jnwhiteh | so to have a flat cairenn just isn't right |
| 14:26.04 | cairenn | lol |
| 14:26.10 | Cairenn | better? |
| 14:26.17 | jnwhiteh | much! |
| 14:26.23 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 14:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | My j is always small. It helps people to underestimate me! |
| 14:27.22 | dafire | hmmm |
| 14:27.55 | Lopeppeppy | True story. Lunessa is always surprised by the depths of my depraved indifference! |
| 14:28.33 | Lopeppeppy | thinks he's still asleep, so that's a safe claim... |
| 14:28.53 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:29.04 | Lopeppeppy | Innocent!! |
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| 14:32.13 | cide | hey I got into my desktop |
| 14:32.36 | Cairenn | yay |
| 14:32.50 | cide | too bad it's still failing hardcore |
| 14:32.57 | cide | but some progress at least |
| 14:33.46 | haste | Fisker: compare Haste to haste, easy victory for haste |
| 14:38.44 | cide | huh |
| 14:38.52 | cide | it only happens when using kde |
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| 14:47.58 | haste | It's a sign! |
| 14:48.01 | haste | KDE is bad for you. |
| 14:51.08 | Kraps | i dont get peggle, 99% of it is luck |
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| 14:55.11 | mitch0 | cide: it's probably caused by compositing/3d acceleration |
| 14:55.18 | Fisker | that was awesome haste |
| 14:55.41 | Maldivia | Kraps: not luck, it's just math |
| 14:57.47 | Fisker | awww |
| 14:57.51 | Fisker | my authenticator code was |
| 14:57.54 | Fisker | 44444... |
| 14:57.54 | Fisker | 2 |
| 14:57.56 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:58.05 | Fisker | totally ruined my day |
| 14:58.45 | Maldivia | I had 123546 at one point |
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| 15:06.20 | Kraps | Maldivia: most people dont have trajectory mapping software on hand i think :) |
| 15:09.58 | zenzelezz | nonsense |
| 15:10.03 | zenzelezz | how else would we know where to aim? |
| 15:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | *innocent* |
| 15:11.04 | Kraps | mostly best guess and hpoe |
| 15:11.10 | Kraps | hope* |
| 15:11.30 | zenzelezz | see, I can't tell if Lopeppeppy actually made something naughty out of that or not... |
| 15:12.01 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 15:12.11 | nevcairiel | you can't? |
| 15:12.11 | Kraps | idk, do girls need to aim much? |
| 15:12.14 | nevcairiel | your peppy sense is failing |
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| 15:12.32 | zenzelezz | peppy has no problem outsmarting me |
| 15:14.26 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy = permasnark and permanaughty |
| 15:15.18 | zenzelezz | true |
| 15:17.01 | Jamash | my addon is now magically delicious |
| 15:17.17 | cogwheel | 6 more sleeps! |
| 15:17.22 | Kraps | is it iamonds? |
| 15:17.29 | Kraps | bah |
| 15:18.28 | cogwheel | GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 15:19.02 | cogwheel | ~ping |
| 15:19.02 | purl | ~pong |
| 15:20.58 | Lopeppeppy | PONG! |
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| 15:21.30 | zenzelezz | you can pong my ping any day |
| 15:22.24 | Lopeppeppy | I hear that's addictive. |
| 15:22.53 | zenzelezz | damn right it is |
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| 15:34.32 | alestane | So Peppy, you weren't here when I said I found a function in the standard Lua implementation called "rawrunprotected." |
| 15:35.12 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, don't programmers know to use condoms? *shocked* |
| 15:35.21 | Lopeppeppy | Never RAWR without protection!! |
| 15:35.25 | alestane | And while I'm pretty sure it's meant to be read "raw run protected," it took me like two minutes to see past the RAWR. |
| 15:35.37 | Arrowmaster | rawr |
| 15:35.48 | haste | RAWR UNPROTECTED! |
| 15:35.50 | Lopeppeppy | *le gasp* |
| 15:36.41 | zenzelezz | programmers don't get girls, what good would protection do them? |
| 15:37.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a programmer, and I got girl. Myself, of course, but still. |
| 15:38.29 | alestane | Hey, at least you're having some fun. |
| 15:38.36 | zenzelezz | well do you remember to use protection? |
| 15:38.41 | Lopeppeppy | I am? *looks around* If you say so. |
| 15:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I know my own detailed rawring history, so I'm comfortable with my negative sanity test results. |
| 15:41.14 | alestane | ...the zeppelin from Grom'gol to Undercity is named "The Purple Princess." |
| 15:41.33 | zenzelezz | must be an homage to Sylvanas |
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| 15:44.15 | Fisker | i haste you |
| 15:44.24 | nicoli_coding | simmer fisker |
| 15:44.27 | haste | i fisker you |
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| 15:44.37 | Fisker | nicoli_sodding |
| 15:46.21 | nicoli_s | Ackis:how dare you canadians have your own thanksgiving |
| 15:46.42 | Lopeppeppy | Zomg. |
| 15:46.49 | Lopeppeppy | And on our American Holiday too. |
| 15:47.01 | zenzelezz | they need a special one to celebrate that they're not part of the US |
| 15:48.32 | Lopeppeppy | Can I get one of those? |
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| 15:54.57 | Jamash | ptr offline oh noe |
| 15:54.58 | Jamash | s |
| 15:55.19 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 15:55.28 | Jamash | Fiskermen |
| 15:57.16 | Fisker | men |
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| 16:04.05 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:04.07 | alestane | Station |
| 16:04.24 | cogwheel | sTation |
| 16:06.08 | TC-Work | Noitats |
| 16:07.09 | Fisker | 4.0.1 will have the lockout system for wotlk too right? |
| 16:07.22 | alestane | For ICC and Ruby Sanctum, I believe. |
| 16:07.24 | Fisker | meaning that if i do a 25-man ICC, i can't do 10-man right? |
| 16:07.42 | Shirik | @#R(P@IF |
| 16:07.45 | Shirik | who here uses thunderbird |
| 16:07.53 | Shirik | how do I copy the addresses in the "to" section of an email? |
| 16:07.55 | Fisker | noone Shirik |
| 16:07.57 | TC-Work | idiots |
| 16:07.59 | Fisker | ctrl+v? |
| 16:09.34 | Jamash | what's an awesome unicode character that the wow font supports that would make a good debug string separator? |
| 16:09.51 | Jamash | Shirik: An email you're composing, or an email you're received? |
| 16:09.56 | Shirik | received |
| 16:10.14 | Lopeppeppy | can you "reply all" and see the list that way? |
| 16:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | Or are they bcc? |
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| 16:10.21 | Jamash | right-click, "Copy Email Address" |
| 16:10.32 | Shirik | problem is, Lopeppeppy, someone forgot to "reply all" |
| 16:10.40 | Shirik | so now I'm trtying to reply and all the email addresses are missing |
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| 16:10.52 | Lopeppeppy | Go back to the first one you have that had everyone? |
| 16:11.08 | Jamash | if you want to be leet, click "other actions" and select "view source" |
| 16:11.19 | Shirik | Jamash: That only copies one email address |
| 16:11.22 | Shirik | I'm not doing that for 40 |
| 16:11.29 | Jamash | see second suggestion |
| 16:11.35 | Shirik | that's just stupid |
| 16:11.40 | Jamash | your face is stupid |
| 16:11.42 | Shirik | How can they be missing such a basic functionality |
| 16:11.55 | Fisker | it's open source |
| 16:12.00 | Shirik | no shit |
| 16:12.06 | Shirik | usually open source means it has 500 features it doesn't need |
| 16:12.10 | Shirik | and is bloatware |
| 16:12.20 | zenzelezz | right |
| 16:12.28 | zenzelezz | because viewing the source of a message is totally web 3.5 |
| 16:12.50 | Jamash | Shirik: fine, Message, Edit Message as New (Ctrl-E) |
| 16:13.51 | Shirik | that's not what I meant zenzelezz |
| 16:13.56 | Shirik | I meant copying the damn email addresses |
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| 16:14.18 | Shirik | Are you saying average Joe should know how to read SMTP headers? |
| 16:15.17 | zenzelezz | hm, no. But how often do you have to copy the recipients of an e-mail? |
| 16:15.53 | Jamash | I don't understand what you're trying to do |
| 16:16.10 | Shirik | I'm trying to do a "reply all" when the person that replied last time was a moron and just hit "reply" |
| 16:16.30 | Jamash | so you have a message that's just to you, and you want to copy the recipients from one message and paste them into another message? |
| 16:16.37 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:17.19 | TC-Work | like Lopeppeppy said, go back to an earlier one and copy paste everyone |
| 16:17.21 | Jamash | reply-all to original message to list, copy and paste contents of idiot's message into new email, profit |
| 16:17.52 | Shirik | epic road sign: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boring,_Oregon |
| 16:18.24 | Jamash | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Fucking,_Austria |
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| 16:19.17 | Xinhuan | shirik, just right click it and choose copy email addres |
| 16:19.27 | Shirik | which copies one |
| 16:20.07 | Jamash | I've given you two working solutions so far |
| 16:20.25 | alestane | But not a convenient one. |
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| 16:20.54 | Jamash | If Shirik wanted convenience he wouldn't be a Java programmer now would he. |
| 16:20.54 | Shirik | there are many solutions, including typing in all the email addresses, which I already did |
| 16:21.03 | Shirik | I'm not a Java programmer |
| 16:21.14 | Xinhuan | well |
| 16:21.41 | Shirik | I mean seriously, even outlook 2003 could do this, and probably earlier |
| 16:21.44 | Xinhuan | uh there's a way to view the message source |
| 16:21.48 | Xinhuan | and just copy from it |
| 16:21.57 | Jamash | one who programs in java is a java programmer |
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| 16:22.13 | Xinhuan | select the email, press ctrl+U |
| 16:22.27 | Xinhuan | scroll down to the "To:" section |
| 16:22.29 | Xinhuan | and copy |
| 16:22.34 | Jamash | suggested that already |
| 16:22.41 | Jamash | resulted in QQ |
| 16:22.43 | Xinhuan | well u can't do any better than that |
| 16:23.00 | Shirik | that makes about 99.99% of developers java programmers |
| 16:23.11 | Jamash | And your point is? |
| 16:25.22 | Jamash | I program in java (ick), perl (yay), python (yay), c (barf), c++ (class barf<vomit> inherits goo, floor wax, dessert topping), lua (meh), shell, make (if you can call that a programming language), javascript, etc. |
| 16:26.15 | zenzelezz | your classification of C++ is weird |
| 16:26.21 | zenzelezz | ~Jamash(); |
| 16:26.31 | Jamash | is melting, oh noooooooooooooooooo. |
| 16:26.38 | TC-Work | i like perl |
| 16:26.41 | Jamash | hi5 |
| 16:26.42 | TC-Work | i agree |
| 16:26.52 | Shirik | Anyone that says "yay" to perl and python but uses invalid C++ to define C++ |
| 16:26.53 | Shirik | well |
| 16:27.04 | Jamash | is clearly a superior class of programmer |
| 16:27.05 | Shirik | let's just say there's a very hot place waiting for them in the afterlife |
| 16:27.16 | TC-Work | hawaii? |
| 16:27.19 | Jamash | ^ |
| 16:27.34 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:27.41 | TC-Work | <3 Shirik |
| 16:27.43 | zenzelezz | well, it is a US state, so... |
| 16:28.17 | Jamash | The thing I like best about C++ is you're not permitted to use like 90% of it |
| 16:28.28 | zenzelezz | how so? |
| 16:28.37 | Jamash | poor compiler support |
| 16:28.41 | Shirik | eh? |
| 16:28.44 | zenzelezz | such as? |
| 16:29.12 | Shirik | I agree, it is totally unacceptable that gcc doesn't support #pragma comment |
| 16:29.25 | zenzelezz | does it do #pragma once? |
| 16:29.29 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:29.54 | Shirik | though I think that's really just for compatibility |
| 16:30.04 | Shirik | gcc optimizes include guards just as well as #pragma once |
| 16:30.21 | zenzelezz | I just prefer the look of #pragma once over the #ifndef... |
| 16:30.53 | Jamash | "...the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level and portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that are basically available in C." |
| 16:31.09 | Shirik | totally wrong |
| 16:31.13 | Shirik | and written by a C programmer |
| 16:31.51 | Jamash | well, duh |
| 16:31.51 | Dark_Elf | is it just me or is the blizzard background downloader slow? been 2 days downloading patch 4 and its still only 10% |
| 16:32.24 | zenzelezz | did you try restarting it? |
| 16:32.26 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:32.35 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 16:32.40 | Jamash | try checking "don't throttle background download" |
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| 16:33.04 | DWSR | Is Heart Strike going to be baseline now? |
| 16:33.26 | Dark_Elf | i got peer to peer checked but not the other one |
| 16:33.35 | Shirik | btw |
| 16:33.36 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:33.37 | Shirik | ~wiki User talk:66.215.104.143 |
| 16:34.07 | Lopeppeppy | Tricky fish, tricky fish! |
| 16:34.49 | Jamash | Heart Strike is still a Blood talent I believe |
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| 16:36.06 | Jamash | It has been said that a camel is a horse designed by a committee. |
| 16:36.18 | DWSR | Oh, right, it's part of the passive bonuses you get for being blood. |
| 16:36.18 | Jamash | C++ is a camel designed by a committee. |
| 16:36.19 | DWSR | Sorry >.< |
| 16:36.20 | zenzelezz | so, this'll make me sound stupid... but what exactly does "baseline" mean? |
| 16:36.30 | Jamash | baseline means you get it with no talents spent |
| 16:37.16 | zenzelezz | oh' |
| 16:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | baseline = absolutely plain-state. Like getting a baseline heart stress test when you're healthy, to compare to someday later when you're sick. |
| 16:39.20 | zenzelezz | English isn't my native language, I don't know what a baseline stress test is |
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| 16:39.36 | zenzelezz | then again, with my medical knowledge, I probably don't in my own language either |
| 16:40.35 | Lopeppeppy | It was just an example, zenzelezz. Baseline basically means "point of reference" |
| 16:40.46 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 16:42.46 | Shirik | Jamash |
| 16:42.47 | Shirik | here |
| 16:42.57 | Shirik | let me show you what happens when someone tries to use C in C++ |
| 16:43.23 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/141428-1u1s |
| 16:44.17 | Jamash | so? |
| 16:44.27 | Shirik | BAD |
| 16:45.08 | haste | I love C/C++ when it's filled with #ifdef |
| 16:45.53 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 16:45.54 | Shirik | wait |
| 16:45.55 | Shirik | it gets better |
| 16:45.57 | Shirik | I forgot about this |
| 16:46.17 | Shirik | this was written by me because the guy on the other side sucked |
| 16:46.36 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/141429-1qsq |
| 16:47.17 | ckknight | Shirik: *shudder* I'm glad I use a modern language. |
| 16:47.33 | Shirik | MY favorite part is `int getStringLength(char*** memory, unsigned int index) { unsigned long size = *reinterpret_cast<unsigned long*>(*memory) - 1;` |
| 16:47.42 | zenzelezz | "char*** memory" o_O |
| 16:47.42 | haste | *** |
| 16:47.44 | haste | D: |
| 16:47.55 | Jamash | char*** memory lol |
| 16:48.18 | Jamash | So you're writing lousy code to deal with someone else's lousy code |
| 16:48.23 | zenzelezz | yo dawg, I heard you like pointers, so I put a pointer in your pointer in your pointer, so you could dereference while you dereference while you dereference |
| 16:48.30 | Shirik | basically |
| 16:48.36 | Jamash | ~zenzelezz++ |
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| 16:48.38 | Shirik | It's actually being called from another language |
| 16:48.48 | Shirik | That other language has string arrays |
| 16:48.54 | Shirik | and it also knows how to pass a string to C++ |
| 16:48.59 | Shirik | but it refuses to pass a string array to C++ |
| 16:49.03 | Shirik | so um |
| 16:49.11 | Shirik | I do something really awful to convince it to pass a string array to C++ |
| 16:49.14 | Jamash | clearly your problem is writing code in C++ instead of the other language |
| 16:49.19 | Shirik | it's willing to pass an array of integers |
| 16:49.45 | Shirik | so I kinda just shove all of the addresses into a string |
| 16:49.55 | Shirik | and it works! |
| 16:50.09 | Shirik | kids: don't try this at home |
| 16:50.35 | Jamash | why don't you add string array support to the other language? |
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| 16:50.44 | Shirik | um |
| 16:50.51 | Shirik | it's LabVIEW |
| 16:50.53 | Shirik | have you ever worked wtih it? |
| 16:50.58 | Jamash | never heard of it |
| 16:51.08 | Shirik | I think I have a screenshot of it somewhere |
| 16:51.33 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/44da37ac3737a75edc52eab2046ea302.png |
| 16:51.49 | Jamash | that's cute |
| 16:52.05 | Jamash | it reminds me of this programming environment for eight year olds that OLPC has |
| 16:52.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:52.18 | Shirik | actually it's quite powerful |
| 16:52.25 | Shirik | but you get the idea why it would be difficult to modify |
| 16:53.43 | Jamash | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:TA-Sierpinski.png |
| 16:53.54 | Shirik | yeah um |
| 16:53.55 | Shirik | no |
| 16:54.13 | Shirik | LabVIEW is capable of generating Verilog/VHDL constructs |
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| 16:54.29 | Jamash | and? |
| 16:54.43 | Shirik | that's pretty powerful considering how complex those languages are? |
| 16:55.17 | Jamash | and? |
| 16:56.01 | Shirik | and whatever you just showed me was made for kids |
| 16:56.29 | Jamash | and? |
| 16:56.36 | Shirik | and then? |
| 16:56.56 | Jamash | Kittens. |
| 16:57.15 | Lopeppeppy | very kittens |
| 16:57.45 | Jamash | I'm waiting for the part that shows me how C++ doesn't suck. |
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| 16:58.14 | Shirik | what |
| 16:58.21 | Shirik | I thought we were talking about labview |
| 16:58.44 | Jamash | clearly your short-term memory has been blown out from working in inferior programming languages |
| 16:59.22 | cogwheel | hmmm... http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/news/?d=2010-10#111500 |
| 16:59.55 | Jamash | nice |
| 16:59.57 | cogwheel | poor mrs cog |
| 16:59.58 | Lopeppeppy | I wish I knew who Tenacious D was... I'm a music failure I guess. |
| 17:00.02 | cogwheel | she hates jay mohr and jack black |
| 17:00.07 | Jamash | aww |
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| 17:00.16 | Jamash | give me her ticket and I'll appreciate them for her |
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| 17:00.24 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 17:00.41 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: Jack Black's band |
| 17:00.52 | Jamash | http://www.wowhead.com/item=24091/tenacious-defender |
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| 17:01.31 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, cogwheel. |
| 17:01.41 | Lopeppeppy | Tell the Mrs. to fly across country to visit me instead. |
| 17:01.48 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 17:02.42 | cogwheel | "hehe - omg that is tempting" |
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| 17:03.40 | Lopeppeppy | I'm so sure. :P |
| 17:03.57 | Jamash | where's you at, Lopeppeppy? |
| 17:04.27 | Lopeppeppy | New York State. Literally across the country from Blizcon. |
| 17:04.31 | Jamash | ah |
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| 17:06.08 | Jamash | sigh, I wish I had limited gm privileges on test |
| 17:07.15 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't everyone? |
| 17:07.19 | Lopeppeppy | Wish that, I mean. |
| 17:08.52 | Jamash | yeah |
| 17:09.21 | Jamash | now, why is this code that was working five minutes ago not working now |
| 17:09.38 | Lopeppeppy | Heisenbug, I think? |
| 17:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | I get them confused. |
| 17:10.10 | Fisker | tenacious old Jamash |
| 17:11.08 | kd3|netbook | tenacious D? |
| 17:11.12 | kd3|netbook | ! |
| 17:15.37 | Jamash | sweet, working |
| 17:17.12 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 17:17.19 | Jamash | hey Fisker |
| 17:17.22 | Fisker | hey |
| 17:17.31 | Jamash | hey |
| 17:17.45 | Jamash | we're the monkees |
| 17:17.47 | Fisker | k |
| 17:17.48 | Fisker | hey |
| 17:18.43 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 17:19.00 | Kraps | would you like to see my banana? |
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| 17:19.28 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:19.55 | Kraps | i'm about halfway through |
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| 17:25.19 | Jamash | hmm, I probably shouldn't usurp the default blizzard "zomg you can only learn two professions" popup |
| 17:26.03 | Mihau | Perhaps not. |
| 17:27.57 | Kraps | now THIS is more like it http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?101011 |
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| 17:28.36 | zenzelezz | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/meanwhile_in_australia3.jpg |
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| 17:30.24 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 17:31.18 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 17:31.28 | kd3|netbook | hey fisk-fisk |
| 17:31.50 | Lunessa | Jebus! Replacing the power-supply on my office PC took 30 freaking minutes. these cases SUCK. |
| 17:32.07 | alestane | Puzzle box, Lunessa? |
| 17:32.09 | kd3|netbook | how much blood did you give to the computer gods? |
| 17:32.30 | Lunessa | I didn't bleed, and puzzle box is right. I ended up taking out everything BUT the mobo. |
| 17:32.57 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:33.05 | Lopeppeppy | You need tiny Peppy hands to help with those things! |
| 17:33.08 | Lunessa | Morning peppy-dear. |
| 17:34.20 | zenzelezz | <Lopeppeppy> You need tiny Peppy hands to help with those things! <-- not what you want to hear a girl say |
| 17:34.48 | Lunessa | Peppy - I told the tech services guys I'd do it myself. They gleefully handed me the power-supply (new, in box) and a screwdriver. Then stood around and kibitzed while I did it. Then started getting the vapors about the 599 more they're going to have to do on campus. Then pitching in when it turns out you need 3 hands to disassemble these things. |
| 17:35.12 | kd3|netbook | and again; zomg Tenacious D |
| 17:35.30 | mikma | Kingslayer \o/ |
| 17:35.52 | Jamash | I hate anyone who is going to blizzcon without me |
| 17:35.55 | zenzelezz | wouldn't call him Kingslayer, but he's pretty cool |
| 17:36.03 | Lopeppeppy | ... that's worse than girls getting ready for a rock concert, Lunessa. |
| 17:36.06 | Duman | hehe |
| 17:36.19 | Lunessa | revels in Jamash's hate. |
| 17:36.28 | Lopeppeppy | and zenzelezz, a girl with tiny hands makes a man feel huge! |
| 17:36.48 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: how you doing? |
| 17:36.51 | kd3|netbook | >.> |
| 17:36.51 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: not if the implication is any larger hands would cause them harm |
| 17:37.02 | Fisker | harsh Jamash |
| 17:38.03 | Jamash | I'll show you harsh |
| 17:40.31 | Jamash | hmm, maybe I'll just hook ClassTrainerFrame_Update() |
| 17:41.03 | Fisker | btw Lopeppeppy |
| 17:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I'm... doing fair, I'd say. Not good, but past some of the hideous. |
| 17:41.15 | Fisker | New York isn't literally across the country from Blizzcon |
| 17:41.21 | Fisker | that more be like Maine or something |
| 17:41.32 | Fisker | smiles |
| 17:41.34 | Lopeppeppy | What city is Blizcon in again? |
| 17:41.42 | alestane | Anaheim. |
| 17:41.49 | Jamash | crossing the mississippi and the continental divide is good enough |
| 17:41.58 | Jamash | azusa |
| 17:42.03 | Jamash | and cucamonga |
| 17:42.24 | Lopeppeppy | Across from it would be more like...North/South Carolina, you're right. :P |
| 17:42.31 | angayelle | how would you rate leaving 4savedvariables in global instead of local, on a scale of 1 to 10 ? |
| 17:42.47 | Jamash | pretty sure saved variables have to be global |
| 17:43.07 | angayelle | they can be local but need to be read from global first |
| 17:43.23 | angayelle | and tbh this is out of my grsp for now |
| 17:43.27 | angayelle | grasp* |
| 17:44.02 | Jamash | polluting the global namespace is sadly about a 0 in terms of harm in wow |
| 17:44.32 | Jamash | LuaBrowser shows 36,572 entries in _G |
| 17:45.17 | angayelle | you're running addon heavy ? |
| 17:45.38 | Jamash | no |
| 17:46.08 | Jamash | with *only LuaBrowser running* there are 35,959 objects in _G |
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| 17:47.16 | Jamash | blizzard dumps almost everything in the global namespace |
| 17:49.11 | Jamash | that's 19,616 widgets, 5,457 functions, 253 tables, 758 numbers, 11 booleans, and 10,038 strings |
| 17:49.43 | kd3|netbook | whistles |
| 17:50.38 | Jamash | basically the wow ui is a ginormous mess |
| 17:53.58 | Kemayo | Blizzard has been getting better about it, I think. |
| 17:55.38 | Fisker | k Jamash |
| 17:55.42 | Fisker | k |
| 17:56.29 | cbreak | Jamash: that's because every widget that has a name gets mapped into the environment |
| 17:56.38 | Jamash | YEs |
| 17:56.41 | cbreak | even child widgets |
| 17:56.44 | Jamash | yup |
| 17:56.49 | cbreak | which seems dumb |
| 17:56.57 | Jamash | yup |
| 17:56.57 | cbreak | but I guess it's the microsoft syndrome |
| 17:57.18 | cbreak | "let's not break backwards compatibility, even if it would be good to switch to something better" |
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| 17:58.32 | alestane | Given that any major change would basically nuke all existing add-ons? |
| 17:58.45 | Jamash | eh, they do that anyway |
| 17:59.06 | alestane | That's the same reason Microsoft does it...users will blame them when their software stops working, even though it's someone else's software. |
| 17:59.16 | Jamash | local t={};for k,v in pairs(_G)do local y=type(v);if y=="table" and v.GetParent then t.widget = (t.widget or 0) + 1 else t[y] = (t[y] or 0) + 1 end end;DevTools_Dump(t) |
| 17:59.16 | alestane | No, they tend to ding existing add-ons. |
| 17:59.33 | Jamash | run that on a stock wow (no addons) and you'll still get a ton |
| 18:01.08 | alestane | I am fully aware of how dense the global namespace is...but fortunately Lua is pretty forgiving of it. |
| 18:02.08 | Jamash | ZorbaTHut was running into problems with tables > half a million keys, but below that, it's fine |
| 18:02.22 | alestane | And hey, it could be even more like Microsoft...they have a list of 6,250 pieces of badly written software they go out of their way to treat with kid gloves so they won't wreck the operating system. Third-party software. |
| 18:02.37 | Jamash | everyone loves hardcoded workarounds |
| 18:03.00 | Jamash | now rename your executable and watch things go to hell |
| 18:03.06 | zenzelezz | just be glad we can *name* frames, and not go with integer IDs |
| 18:03.22 | cbreak | I'd use pointers/references |
| 18:03.22 | TC-Work | anyone know a way to javascript to turn 1 into 01? all i keep finding is after the decimal |
| 18:03.46 | cbreak | TC-Work: doesn't it have string concat? "0" .. 1 :) |
| 18:03.49 | Jamash | "0" + 1 |
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| 18:04.56 | TC-Work | Jamash: what happens when you get a 2 digit number? |
| 18:05.04 | Jamash | 013 |
| 18:05.07 | TC-Work | cbreak: dunno, let me check |
| 18:05.12 | TC-Work | Jamash: yes, no can do |
| 18:05.20 | TC-Work | i only want something to limit to 2 digits |
| 18:05.26 | TC-Work | even if it less |
| 18:05.29 | cbreak | in C style format strings, it'd be something like %04d |
| 18:06.01 | TC-Work | seems like i have to make a function just to do it |
| 18:06.30 | cbreak | no snprintfn? :) |
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| 18:06.46 | cbreak | hmm. a n too many :) |
| 18:08.02 | TC-Work | ok, the function worked, thanks anyways guys |
| 18:08.08 | Jamash | function(x){if (x < 10){return "0"+x} else {return(x)}} |
| 18:08.39 | industrial | Is there an addon for firefox that makes the location bar behave like that in google chrome? I would love for it to finish the first result given so that I can press enter in the middle. Right now I have to select the top one on the list first. I'd like the first result to be shown where you type but selected so you can erase it. |
| 18:08.57 | Jamash | press tab |
| 18:09.27 | zenzelezz | think there's a setting in about:config |
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| 18:09.57 | zenzelezz | browser.urlbar.autoFill => true |
| 18:10.18 | industrial | lua> a=function(x) return x<10 and '0'..tostring(x) or x end b='' for i=1,20 do b=b..', '..a(i) end print(b) |
| 18:10.18 | lua_bot | industrial: , 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 |
| 18:10.26 | industrial | Jamash: ^ :) |
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| 18:10.36 | industrial | I don't know why I did that. I felt the need to type it out. |
| 18:11.24 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 20 do print(string.format("%02d", i) end |
| 18:11.24 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'end' |
| 18:11.31 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 20 do print(string.format("%02d", i)) end |
| 18:11.32 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 |
| 18:11.36 | Xinhuan | simpler? lol |
| 18:11.37 | industrial | zing :D pooned |
| 18:12.04 | industrial | still hates that JavaScript (ECMAScript, really) has no string.format |
| 18:12.28 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27189089049/patch-4-0-1-class-mechanics-changes/ |
| 18:12.29 | cbreak | no one really uses java script anyway |
| 18:12.40 | industrial | I know theres a zillion implementations but I'm not sure I like that |
| 18:12.48 | industrial | cbreak: fail troll is fail :( |
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| 18:13.14 | cbreak | what, mages don't change?! |
| 18:13.24 | industrial | werent mages going to fuse with locks? |
| 18:13.31 | Lopeppeppy | Not unless you count polymorph, cbreak! |
| 18:13.34 | kd3|netbook | all we get are the fancy spell flyouts |
| 18:13.43 | Jamash | flyouts rrr |
| 18:13.44 | cbreak | lame... |
| 18:13.44 | kd3|netbook | one button on action bars instead of 10 |
| 18:13.56 | Jamash | still gotta put in some gui support for those in learning aid... |
| 18:13.57 | industrial | zenzelezz: I shall now proceed to look through most settings in about:config. Thanks for wasting my evening. |
| 18:13.58 | cbreak | I have a cool addon for that already |
| 18:14.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, combo points for paladins! *giggle* |
| 18:14.19 | Jamash | I always liked how assassins worked in diablo 2 |
| 18:14.22 | Kraps | "Hunters never felt like they should be casting mana-based spells" when did this "never" start? |
| 18:14.25 | Shirik | Due to a meeting conflict for the chairs of Arts & Sciences, we will need to reschedule our chairs discussion meeting that was scheduled for this Wednesday. Since there are other conflicts on October 20, how about 1:00 on Wednesday, October 27. |
| 18:14.25 | Shirik | Please reply with your availablity on the 27th. |
| 18:14.31 | Shirik | Sweet, apparently I'm a department chair now |
| 18:14.32 | Jamash | Hunters had Focus in alpha |
| 18:14.42 | kd3|netbook | different focus |
| 18:14.48 | Jamash | not that different |
| 18:14.52 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, and I can be replaced by a hunter pet! |
| 18:14.55 | kd3|netbook | 0 focus when moving |
| 18:15.00 | cbreak | Shirik: keep away from Balmer! |
| 18:15.08 | Jamash | I thought it still regenerated when moving, but slower |
| 18:15.35 | kd3|netbook | the old focus didn't you moved, all of your focus went splat |
| 18:15.41 | Jamash | ah |
| 18:15.45 | kd3|netbook | didn't;* |
| 18:16.10 | Fisker | Just Do It haste |
| 18:16.18 | Jamash | click faster, you might be replaced by a hunter pet |
| 18:18.13 | Lunessa | mages changed. The changes were just sublte. |
| 18:18.32 | Shirik | so as I was saying before my cable provider decided cable isn't cool |
| 18:18.36 | Shirik | (14:15:12) (@Shirik) aw :( |
| 18:18.36 | Shirik | (14:15:16) (@Shirik) "The messange for department chairs discussion was inadvertantly sent to all members of the CTLE orgranization. Please disregard it. " |
| 18:18.36 | Shirik | (14:15:24) * Disconnected |
| 18:18.45 | Shirik | I'm not a department chair anymore :( |
| 18:18.54 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, that was quick. |
| 18:19.33 | Lunessa | So, will Tenacious D play "Fuck Her Gently" at BlizzCon? |
| 18:21.12 | zenzelezz | maybe a slightly modified Tribute (to the greatest company in the world) |
| 18:21.12 | Jamash | gank her gently |
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| 18:21.26 | Kraps | only 3 new pet classes bleh |
| 18:22.43 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/thedoghousediaries/feed/~3/nPx65cJ3tag/ |
| 18:23.48 | TC-Work | if i have <option value= > how to i stick a variable in the value section? |
| 18:24.14 | cbreak | context? |
| 18:24.18 | Kraps | very carefully |
| 18:24.48 | TC-Work | it's a dropdown box |
| 18:24.51 | TC-Work | in html |
| 18:25.06 | TC-Work | and i have a var in javascript |
| 18:25.08 | Galvin | Runic empowerment does that refresh runes cooling down or waiting to cooldown? |
| 18:25.25 | TC-Work | but value=foo does not seem to wrk |
| 18:25.26 | Jamash | use dom? |
| 18:25.27 | TC-Work | work* |
| 18:25.38 | Galvin | what sucks is I have no way to test that since ptr DK premades only have 15 talent points. |
| 18:25.49 | cbreak | web programming... gah... |
| 18:26.17 | cbreak | Galvin: copy over one of yours |
| 18:26.26 | Galvin | dont have one thats 68 to get the talent. |
| 18:26.39 | cbreak | then you don't need to know :D |
| 18:26.48 | Galvin | I do need to know cause my mod does runes |
| 18:26.48 | cbreak | maybe... |
| 18:27.05 | cbreak | My DK is 58... |
| 18:27.25 | Galvin | I have no idea if a special event is sent for it or it does it some other way. |
| 18:28.23 | Lunessa | Copy over a pre-made at 85 and only spend up to level 80 in talents? |
| 18:29.38 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa is wise in the ways of creative maths! |
| 18:29.39 | Galvin | I dont have beta just ptr. |
| 18:29.59 | Galvin | Looked at blizzards code and just see the standard two events for runes, so no idea how they're doing it. |
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| 18:30.37 | Lunessa | "Who are you that is so wise in the ways of Science?" "Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes." |
| 18:30.57 | Lopeppeppy | A duck! |
| 18:31.29 | Fisker | no! |
| 18:31.30 | Kraps | "Thank you for ordering the BlizzCon 2010 Virtual Ticket!" |
| 18:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | Wootski |
| 18:32.18 | Fisker | no! |
| 18:32.20 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 18:32.22 | Fisker | you won't get shit |
| 18:32.42 | Kraps | disagree'd |
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| 18:33.06 | Kraps | i was able to see whatever was on last year |
| 18:34.25 | Kraps | cool the vid pops out! |
| 18:34.31 | Fisker | no! |
| 18:35.03 | Kraps | and they already added "featuring tenacious d" in the preview |
| 18:35.34 | Fisker | old |
| 18:38.37 | Kraps | jay mohr is fail though |
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| 18:39.18 | Jamash | breakfast! |
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| 18:43.05 | foxlit | wonders who does the sc2 map spotlight |
| 18:43.39 | Fisker | ido |
| 18:44.35 | foxlit | you, sir, are foolish. Some of those spotlighted maps are crap :( |
| 18:45.33 | Fisker | oh yeah? |
| 18:45.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. |
| 18:47.08 | Fisker | goldielocks, you're not even in this discussion |
| 18:47.09 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 18:47.10 | cbreak | did they ever present a normal map? |
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| 18:48.23 | Kraps | are auth servers down? |
| 18:49.16 | mikma | maybe |
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| 18:49.57 | Kraps | checks if mikma is down |
| 18:50.01 | Fisker | no mikma |
| 18:51.32 | mikma | yes mikma |
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| 18:55.05 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/882511 |
| 18:55.40 | Galvin | CooldownFrame_SetTimer(self.Cooldown, 0, 0, 0) anyone know if this will stop a cooldown animation in progress? |
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| 18:57.20 | Kraps | hahahahaha http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/832173815 |
| 18:57.21 | nevcairiel | try it? :) |
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| 18:57.47 | amro | Kraps: fail imo. protoss win more often in lower leagues because they cheese all the time |
| 18:58.08 | amro | I've yet to play a protoss who didn't go mass air or cannon rush |
| 18:58.44 | Lunessa | staples MoonWitch to the channel with a pneumatic stapler. |
| 18:59.34 | Kraps | amro: get out of the lower leagues scrub |
| 18:59.43 | Kraps | mcscrubson |
| 18:59.45 | amro | I don't play often enough |
| 18:59.57 | amro | I've won all but 1 of my games the past week |
| 19:00.03 | Kraps | cool |
| 19:00.26 | Fisker | you only played 1 game last week? |
| 19:00.27 | Kraps | i'd rather watch games on youtube |
| 19:00.29 | amro | which is usually fe -> macro -> win vs dumbass 1basing mass void rays |
| 19:01.21 | Galvin | well looks like I may not be screwed as badly as I thought. my rune code uses onupdate polling for runeready. so if it comes off early it drops out. |
| 19:03.16 | Kraps | amro: what race go you play |
| 19:03.53 | amro | zerg |
| 19:04.11 | amro | I demand that infestors get a new model that reflects how sexy they are |
| 19:04.19 | Kraps | so what do you do against mass void rays? |
| 19:04.35 | amro | infestors, hydras |
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| 19:04.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 19:04.43 | Cide | hi |
| 19:04.47 | amro | yo |
| 19:05.05 | amro | if you catch them early enough to kite, you can kill them using only infestors |
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| 19:05.24 | amro | but it's best to contain or kill as early as possible, don't want things to get too out of hand |
| 19:08.49 | Kraps | cogwheel: so the hydra splash damage was intended to be this low since release? O_o |
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| 19:09.02 | Kraps | ultra* |
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| 19:12.45 | Fisker | always bet on me Kraps |
| 19:12.57 | Kraps | you're not duke |
| 19:13.40 | Shirik | Fisker is duke nukem |
| 19:13.42 | Shirik | forever |
| 19:14.55 | Cide | so kdevelop from sources requires kde 4.5 |
| 19:15.10 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ailq7KM_OEA |
| 19:15.32 | Cide | which was a bad idea trying to install |
| 19:16.03 | Cide | also I lost my minecraft save :( |
| 19:16.37 | Shirik | :( |
| 19:19.20 | batrick | shirik |
| 19:19.25 | Shirik | batrick |
| 19:19.26 | batrick | you build a better cpu yet |
| 19:19.29 | batrick | in minecraft? |
| 19:19.31 | Shirik | lol no |
| 19:19.35 | batrick | =( |
| 19:19.45 | batrick | bet someone of your caliber could knock one out in a day |
| 19:19.56 | Shirik | was that a compliment? |
| 19:20.02 | batrick | i dunno |
| 19:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | Give me a ball peen hammer and I'll knock one out too. |
| 19:20.07 | Shirik | I thought those didn't exist here |
| 19:20.08 | Cide | on survival mode! |
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| 19:21.10 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:21.22 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:21.59 | Shirik | I see your trout and raise you a char** array = reinterpret_cast<char**>(reinterpret_cast<char*>(memory)+4); |
| 19:22.41 | Shirik | I have decided I'm not sure which type systme I hate more |
| 19:22.42 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:22.44 | Fisker | you can't |
| 19:22.44 | batrick | i see your shitty language |
| 19:22.45 | Shirik | C's or Python's |
| 19:22.47 | Fisker | your car sucks btw |
| 19:22.50 | Fisker | google > you |
| 19:22.56 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:23.35 | Fisker | google has a car that can drive on it's own |
| 19:23.56 | batrick | no u |
| 19:23.59 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 19:24.25 | batrick | you should work on my new project |
| 19:24.25 | Shirik | I have enough projects omg |
| 19:24.26 | batrick | drop wikipedia |
| 19:24.26 | Fisker | omg? |
| 19:24.26 | batrick | it'll survive without you |
| 19:24.30 | Shirik | no it won't |
| 19:24.37 | Jamash | is it named christine? |
| 19:24.41 | batrick | sighs. |
| 19:25.57 | Lopeppeppy | Did it have a horrible prom? |
| 19:26.07 | amro | Cide: what are you on debian or something? |
| 19:26.14 | Cide | fedora |
| 19:26.31 | Cide | everyone bitched at me for being on fedora previously :( |
| 19:26.34 | Kraps | hey Lunessa |
| 19:26.45 | Cide | err |
| 19:26.48 | Cide | for being on debian previously |
| 19:26.59 | amro | yeah debian stable is probably on kde 3.1 or something |
| 19:26.59 | Lunessa | hrm? |
| 19:27.07 | Cide | fedora is on 4.4.5 or something |
| 19:27.16 | Kraps | whats the deal with the air problems in the fringe altverse? |
| 19:27.17 | amro | too slow |
| 19:27.25 | Cide | fedora 14 is 4.5 |
| 19:27.33 | amro | get fedora 14! |
| 19:27.35 | Cide | so I updated to fedora 14 since that's being released in like 3 weeks |
| 19:27.38 | Cide | BAD MISTAKE. |
| 19:27.43 | Cide | no ati drivers |
| 19:27.51 | kd3|netbook | well, that shouldn't be a surprise |
| 19:27.53 | amro | I wouldn't blame fedora for that |
| 19:27.58 | Cide | didn't say that |
| 19:28.06 | kd3|netbook | wait, has rpmfusion updated them? they're usually pretty good about rolling new drivers |
| 19:28.07 | Jamash | people use distros other than ubuntu? |
| 19:28.09 | amro | laptop right? |
| 19:28.13 | Cide | desktop |
| 19:28.24 | amro | burn the card then :P |
| 19:28.35 | Cide | kd3|netbook: I never had any luck with kmod-catalyst if that's what you mean |
| 19:28.48 | Cide | amro: hd5970 is not getting burned anytime soon |
| 19:28.52 | Jamash | I have a solution to kde problems but you won't like it |
| 19:29.00 | amro | it is if you kill the ventilation |
| 19:29.00 | Cide | like? |
| 19:29.04 | Jamash | uninstall kde |
| 19:29.06 | Cide | why? |
| 19:29.10 | amro | saw that one coming |
| 19:29.11 | Cide | I like it better than gnome |
| 19:29.15 | amro | jamash, you're just bad |
| 19:29.19 | Jamash | xfce |
| 19:29.23 | Cide | lawl |
| 19:29.34 | Jamash | bad to the bone |
| 19:29.42 | amro | I might change to xfce if I'm trying to run linux on a pocketwatch |
| 19:29.42 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 19:29.45 | Fisker | not so hey Cide though |
| 19:30.03 | Cide | amro: that's not a good idea |
| 19:30.24 | Cide | the processor is comparatively too fast so the display bottlenecks instead |
| 19:30.53 | Jamash | gnome is papa bear's stuff, kde is mama bear's stuff, xfce is juuuuust right |
| 19:30.55 | amro | which is why I'd go xfce |
| 19:31.00 | amro | it's not like it puts anything on the screen. |
| 19:31.08 | Cide | yeah I suppose so |
| 19:31.25 | kd3|netbook | hugs xfce |
| 19:31.29 | kd3|netbook | using it right now |
| 19:31.32 | Jamash | hi5 |
| 19:31.34 | amro | did you just hug a mouse? |
| 19:31.34 | Cide | |netbook |
| 19:31.36 | Cide | ~~ |
| 19:31.43 | amro | or whatever their mascot it |
| 19:31.46 | amro | s/it/is/ |
| 19:31.48 | kd3|netbook | hell, I'm using it on my desktop too |
| 19:31.49 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 19:31.55 | ranguvar | meh... I feel like xfce and gnome are out to be my babysitter, so I usually either use KDE or a standalone WM (awesome, fluxbox, pekwm, i3, etc.) |
| 19:31.55 | kd3|netbook | yes fisk-fisk? |
| 19:31.59 | Fisker | Cide why can't you xfce? |
| 19:32.02 | Fisker | idk kd3 |
| 19:32.16 | Jamash | I'm sorry, you think KDE isn't trying to be your babysitter? |
| 19:32.28 | Jamash | what is it trying to be, your mom? |
| 19:32.36 | amro | it's doing your mom |
| 19:32.39 | amro | while being awesome |
| 19:32.55 | amro | also, I heard it eats children |
| 19:33.02 | ranguvar | no, my girlfriend :) It's sexy, but it screws up sometimes |
| 19:33.24 | Jamash | kde is the girlfriend that's sexy but occasionally tries to stab you? |
| 19:33.34 | Adys | ~failshot |
| 19:33.35 | ranguvar | Pretty much |
| 19:33.51 | amro | gnome is like your grandma baking you cookies |
| 19:34.00 | amro | you don't even want things to get sexy |
| 19:34.09 | Jamash | gnome is like thottbot |
| 19:34.21 | Jamash | so old you forget it still exists |
| 19:34.41 | ranguvar | lol @amro |
| 19:34.46 | amro | ~tumbleweed |
| 19:34.47 | purl | ACTION rolls across the empty channel to the theme of The Good, The Bad & The Ugly. |
| 19:34.59 | Jamash | AIAIAIAAAAAAA WAHHH WAHH WAHHHHHHHHH |
| 19:35.14 | amro | thottbot hasn't changed ever |
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| 19:36.35 | Adys | thottbot has changed |
| 19:36.42 | Adys | i remember being excited about new features and stuff |
| 19:36.48 | Adys | thinking "are they finally fixing it" |
| 19:37.09 | Fisker | thottbot and allakhazam needs to die |
| 19:37.36 | amro | allakhazam isn't that bad |
| 19:37.37 | amro | at least they try |
| 19:38.07 | Jamash | I don't think I've ever used allakhazam except when the site I regularly used was down |
| 19:38.24 | Fisker | true amro |
| 19:38.32 | Kraps | http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/309085/mileys-new-video-parents-council-would-like-to-tame-it/ |
| 19:38.39 | Fisker | one of the only sites with localization as well i think |
| 19:38.42 | Fisker | back in the days |
| 19:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't visited allakhazam in... wow, years. |
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| 19:42.06 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 19:42.19 | Shirik | I just passed the L1 test. That was a joke. |
| 19:42.20 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:42.28 | Fisker | I just wiped on LK. That wasn't a joke |
| 19:42.33 | Shirik | that's cause YOU SUCK |
| 19:42.44 | Fisker | no |
| 19:42.54 | Jamash | LK is srs bsnz |
| 19:44.25 | durcyn | "Using internet explorer 7 is a bug on your side." |
| 19:44.31 | Kraps | so whos more powerful than deathwing? |
| 19:46.05 | Jamash | shaft? |
| 19:46.22 | Maldivia | Kraps: Dexter :) |
| 19:48.23 | Jamash | Candlejack could beat Deathwing any |
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| 19:50.22 | Kraps | why does my room smell like crap? |
| 19:50.39 | Jamash | too easy |
| 19:50.48 | Dagmar | Agreed |
| 19:50.57 | Kraps | wasnt me ok? |
| 19:52.43 | Jamash | do you have any small pets, large pets, small rodents, large rodents, unruly houseguests, drunken roommates, prank-happy teenage neighbors or rodents of unusual size? |
| 19:53.16 | Kraps | heh |
| 19:54.26 | Lopeppeppy | ROUSes? |
| 19:56.19 | Kraps | "Causes 1272 to 1756 Spellstorm damage to the target" whoa heavy |
| 19:56.40 | Kraps | need more cool names plox |
| 19:56.45 | Maldivia | starsurge ? |
| 19:56.56 | Maldivia | it's the hardest hitting spell in the druid arsenal |
| 19:56.57 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | What about holy-everything? Never can keep all of my holy spells straight. |
| 19:58.01 | Kraps | holystorm, holyfuckingepic |
| 19:58.29 | Kraps | holyseaserpent damage |
| 19:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | Holycrapthisbuttonsucks |
| 19:58.46 | Seerah | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:58.49 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT#Spell_School has a list |
| 19:58.50 | Kraps | +1 |
| 19:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Seerah-lady! |
| 19:59.10 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:59.21 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Shirik-dear. |
| 19:59.35 | Kraps | Jamash: all those are used ingame? |
| 19:59.40 | Jamash | beats me |
| 20:00.03 | Kraps | Holyfrost? |
| 20:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | Holycarpaltunnelbatman |
| 20:00.44 | Kraps | Chaos: Arcane + Shadow + Frost + Nature + Fire + Holy + Physical lololololo |
| 20:02.05 | DWSR | I remember Chaos damage from WC3. |
| 20:02.32 | DWSR | Chaos damage would be nice to see again, and didn't a few L70 bosses hit for Chaos damage? |
| 20:02.43 | DWSR | Chaos bolt should hit for Chaos damage, tbh. |
| 20:03.21 | Kraps | there would be no resist and it would be even more op :( |
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| 20:03.42 | DWSR | There's already no resist. |
| 20:03.51 | Shirik | What if I had 100 of every resist? |
| 20:03.56 | Kraps | really? |
| 20:04.08 | DWSR | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=77069 |
| 20:04.10 | DWSR | Yes Kraps. |
| 20:04.30 | Kraps | well QQ |
| 20:04.45 | DWSR | wait, that's the NPC ability. |
| 20:04.45 | DWSR | Sec. |
| 20:05.10 | Kraps | so it dohttp://cata.wowhead.com/spell=50796 |
| 20:05.13 | Kraps | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=50796 |
| 20:05.23 | Kraps | same |
| 20:05.51 | Kraps | so it does do chaos damage |
| 20:05.54 | Jamash | green fire |
| 20:05.58 | DWSR | ^ DO WANT |
| 20:06.07 | DWSR | Kraps: No it doesn't. |
| 20:06.09 | DWSR | It does fire damage. |
| 20:06.15 | Jamash | nyet, tovarisch, "Effect: School Damage (Fire)" |
| 20:06.27 | DWSR | afaik, you can get a partial resist on Chaos Bolt. |
| 20:06.33 | DWSR | You just can't get a binary resist. |
| 20:07.00 | Jamash | I take it that green dragon head is new? |
| 20:07.25 | ranguvar | IIRC, Chaos Bolt used to do chaos damage and was changed... but I thought it couldn't be resisted even now, at all? |
| 20:07.27 | ranguvar | Jamash: nope |
| 20:08.25 | Kraps | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=72837 |
| 20:08.48 | DWSR | Indeed. |
| 20:09.03 | DWSR | ranguvar: Yeah, it used to do Chaos damage, and tbfh should still. |
| 20:09.17 | DWSR | And they should make a few other npc spells chaos damage. |
| 20:09.25 | DWSR | And chaos bolt should go through fucking bubble. |
| 20:09.25 | DWSR | gg |
| 20:09.31 | DWSR | HI I R STUPID PALADIN. |
| 20:09.34 | DWSR | *poof* |
| 20:10.03 | Kraps | no more bubble-hearth, quit QQing |
| 20:10.20 | DWSR | No, still have the bubble flash of light to full health though |
| 20:10.28 | ranguvar | I agree that Chaos Bolt should go through bubble... friend's a pally and even he agrees. There's one (1) counter to bubble, Shattering Throw, one other spec with that can't be too awful. |
| 20:10.41 | Jamash | glyph of mass dispel yo |
| 20:10.47 | ranguvar | What really needs to happen is Paladins need more low-CD defenses so they rely less on bubble.. |
| 20:10.54 | DWSR | No. |
| 20:10.55 | Jamash | 0.5sec cast |
| 20:10.57 | ranguvar | Paladins have 0 control |
| 20:11.00 | DWSR | lol |
| 20:11.01 | ranguvar | It's rather lame to play |
| 20:11.14 | DWSR | ranguvar: If you had control, we should just give you an iwin button. |
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| 20:11.38 | ranguvar | I'm not a paladin :) But have played one Ret PvP before on my friend's acct |
| 20:11.42 | DWSR | Shattering Throw or Mass Dispel is the only way to counter bubble. Chaos Bolt isn't a true counter, since it wouldn't /remove/ the bubble, just hit the stupid fucking paladin. |
| 20:12.49 | Fisker | bubble fucking sucks |
| 20:12.59 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 20:12.59 | Fisker | and it's getting even worse in cataclysm |
| 20:13.19 | Fisker | atleast in WotLK it was still a Bubble+HS novelty, this time we can't even do that |
| 20:13.23 | Kraps | any of yous involved with http://wowuistudy.com/ |
| 20:13.40 | Fisker | your mom was involved |
| 20:13.53 | Kraps | impossible |
| 20:14.03 | DWSR | Hey neat. |
| 20:14.07 | DWSR | takes it |
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| 20:17.07 | Jamash | it wants me to upload screenshots |
| 20:17.16 | DWSR | Yeah. |
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| 20:23.39 | Jamash | screenshots of my raiding ui are somewhat embarassing |
| 20:25.15 | cbreak | I like my raiding UI |
| 20:25.20 | cbreak | no one else does though :( |
| 20:26.00 | Sixen | Poor cbreak :( |
| 20:26.53 | Jamash | eight bartender bars, grid, elkano's buff bars, SUF, bazooka, omen, skada all up at once |
| 20:27.28 | cbreak | too many bars |
| 20:28.11 | cbreak | I find three x 12 enough for my spells, since I switch between alternate bars and use special clique commands for decurse and buff spells |
| 20:28.42 | Mirrormn | I only use 2 bars |
| 20:28.45 | Mirrormn | and then oPie |
| 20:28.48 | Mirrormn | <3 oPie |
| 20:28.56 | cbreak | indeed |
| 20:29.40 | industrial | I use 5x6 but on a 5x12 bar. rest are just sometimes-use-mostly-click stuff |
| 20:29.52 | Kraps | i dont have bindings-cache.wtf on my 2 first 80s |
| 20:30.05 | Jamash | my bindings are account-wide |
| 20:30.12 | Jamash | so they're in the account folder |
| 20:30.34 | Kraps | thanks |
| 20:30.58 | industrial | Anyone here have experience with Orbit (lua webframework)? |
| 20:31.08 | industrial | following http://luanova.org/setting-orbit-to-use-apache2/ I get https://gist.github.com/94c674954450c277311d at the end. I have no idea how to fix this as I don't know where the error is coming from. |
| 20:31.54 | industrial | I didn't follow it 100% because I use lua and luarocks from ~/Applications/ but all the paths to those are correct (since it's running lua through the wsapi api anyway) |
| 20:33.09 | Cide | why would you use lua as a web framework again? :P |
| 20:33.09 | Jamash | wow has too many spells imo |
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| 20:33.47 | Jamash | as a hunter I have 3 full bars of class abilities |
| 20:34.11 | Kraps | "Introducing Pandora One Gift Subscriptions" |
| 20:34.14 | Maldivia | same applies to every other class |
| 20:34.17 | cbreak | industrial: what did you try to load on that line in that file? |
| 20:34.45 | jnwhiteh | ~wowalert |
| 20:34.45 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 20:35.48 | Jamash | yeah but as a priest, say, I only use half my abilities at a time |
| 20:36.06 | Jamash | my shadow bar and my disc bar are completely different |
| 20:36.08 | industrial | cbreak: it's part of wsapi luarock. I'm using the code supplied in the first link |
| 20:36.36 | Jamash | on my hunter I use that many abilities pretty much all the time, with only a few swapped out for pvp/pve |
| 20:36.39 | Maldivia | industrial: it looks like it's trying to load your code, but can't find it ? |
| 20:36.40 | cbreak | industrial: it might load a file which it can not find due to missing default paths |
| 20:37.01 | cbreak | if you look into the config.lua to find out which file, you might be able to find the actual file, and adjust the search paths |
| 20:38.04 | Jamash | "you instantly receive 12% of your total mana over 12 sec." |
| 20:38.10 | Jamash | ... |
| 20:38.18 | Kraps | http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/apologies_for_gogs_pr_stunt/page1 heehee |
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| 20:39.10 | Kraps | is gog good in general? |
| 20:39.11 | cbreak | Jamash: if you're bored, an instant might feel like an eternity |
| 20:39.42 | industrial | omfg Kraps thank you |
| 20:39.55 | industrial | I just found a game apparently really old of a book I just finished. |
| 20:40.03 | industrial | an RPG. |
| 20:40.06 | Jamash | what was the pr stunt? |
| 20:40.09 | industrial | I need to finish this game now. |
| 20:40.11 | industrial | http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/betrayal_at_krondor/ |
| 20:40.22 | Maldivia | Jamash: they shut down the site unannounced for 2 days, to take it out of beta |
| 20:40.27 | industrial | I've just finished every book by Feist this week :-) |
| 20:40.31 | Xyphoid | Kraps: it's good |
| 20:40.38 | Xyphoid | stuff just works |
| 20:40.53 | industrial | haste: ^ (riftwar saga) |
| 20:40.58 | industrial | like 20 books :\ |
| 20:41.26 | haste | I've read... *glares at shelf* |
| 20:41.40 | haste | 7 |
| 20:42.53 | industrial | I still think the first books (Magician: Apprentice and Magician: Master) are best .. |
| 20:43.10 | jnwhiteh | its one book |
| 20:43.11 | jnwhiteh | nublet. |
| 20:43.24 | industrial | it got revised into 2 kthx |
| 20:43.28 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 20:43.31 | jnwhiteh | publishers put it into 2 |
| 20:43.32 | jnwhiteh | kthx. |
| 20:43.33 | Xyphoid | thick books get released in the US as 2 |
| 20:43.35 | jnwhiteh | i have the original |
| 20:43.36 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 20:43.45 | Jamash | oh man space quest |
| 20:43.52 | amro | ah, the good old days when games were usually <100mb |
| 20:44.07 | Jamash | 100? |
| 20:44.09 | Jamash | try 10 |
| 20:44.13 | Xyphoid | yeah that's the nice bit about gog |
| 20:44.21 | ranguvar | except in those days they were all saying "ah the good old days when games were usually < 100kb" |
| 20:44.24 | Xyphoid | for those of us connected to the internet by string |
| 20:44.25 | amro | Jamash: those weren't good old days |
| 20:44.26 | amro | floppies |
| 20:44.28 | amro | and shit |
| 20:44.29 | amro | no thanks |
| 20:44.31 | industrial | Looking for a different series to read now. Just started on The Sum Of All Men, The Runelords book one |
| 20:44.36 | kd3|netbook | ugh; floppies |
| 20:44.36 | Cide | I was blown away when the demo of tom clancy's rainbow six: rogue spear was >200mb |
| 20:44.41 | industrial | by David Farland |
| 20:44.42 | Jamash | lemmings 2 has this disgusting copy protection |
| 20:44.45 | Xyphoid | i hated games where you had to copy them onto like 7 3.5" discs |
| 20:44.50 | Xyphoid | disc 6 always had a bad copy |
| 20:44.53 | Jamash | have to crack it to play my legit copy these days |
| 20:44.55 | Xyphoid | from carrying it home from school in my pocket |
| 20:45.00 | industrial | Xyphoid: srsly. |
| 20:45.13 | Xyphoid | it was always goddamn disc 6 |
| 20:45.20 | Jamash | lemmings 2 is the best game ever made btw |
| 20:45.31 | jnwhiteh | so, patch tomorrow? |
| 20:45.41 | nevcairiel | most likely |
| 20:45.43 | Kraps | oh man it looked like this? http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/tom_clancys_rainbow_six |
| 20:45.52 | nevcairiel | extended maintenance, and blues bumping 4.0.1 info threads |
| 20:46.00 | Cide | that's not rogue spear I thikn |
| 20:46.03 | Jamash | old games always look better in your memory than on screen |
| 20:46.12 | Kraps | its the one i has Cide |
| 20:46.18 | Cide | ah |
| 20:46.19 | Kraps | had* |
| 20:46.35 | Cide | you can has rainbow six? |
| 20:46.43 | Kraps | heh |
| 20:46.54 | KarlKFI|work | man those graphics were terrible |
| 20:47.05 | KarlKFI|work | reminds me of golden eye |
| 20:47.16 | Kraps | i read the book this game is based on this summer, and was able to recall quite a bit |
| 20:47.25 | Cide | sniper war in rogue spear was so fun |
| 20:47.28 | Cide | I was unbeatable |
| 20:47.44 | Cide | because I was so awesome |
| 20:48.24 | Kraps | kinda bleh that they went away from the tactical part of the series |
| 20:48.41 | Cide | yeah |
| 20:48.50 | Cide | that was the best part |
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| 20:49.44 | jnwhiteh | blah |
| 20:49.49 | jnwhiteh | this is when i hate being EU versus US |
| 20:49.52 | jnwhiteh | everyone'll get a patch |
| 20:49.56 | jnwhiteh | and I can't do shit to help troubleshoot it =() |
| 20:50.14 | nevcairiel | beta, ui is mostly the same |
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| 20:50.43 | nevcairiel | alestans fixes didnt make it into 4.0.1 though, which makes me sad =( |
| 20:50.49 | nevcairiel | at least not any ptr build we saw |
| 20:50.57 | jnwhiteh | yeah who knows what is going live |
| 20:51.00 | jnwhiteh | which fixes? |
| 20:51.20 | nevcairiel | aura header mostly, and a small thing in the restricted env regarding picking up spells |
| 20:51.26 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 20:51.42 | jnwhiteh | well maybe we'll see a subpatch, but not very likely |
| 20:51.48 | jnwhiteh | which means they'll be broken until 4.0.3 |
| 20:52.01 | Jamash | I bet we see five subpatches |
| 20:52.09 | jnwhiteh | i doubt it |
| 20:52.17 | Jamash | 'cause stuff is gonna be broken as hell |
| 20:52.20 | nevcairiel | I wonder if patching is easier for them with the streamer |
| 20:52.22 | jnwhiteh | i can't see them wanting further changed between 4.0.1 and 4.0.3 |
| 20:52.32 | nevcairiel | so they could do small fixes |
| 20:52.49 | jnwhiteh | well, alestane's stuff isn't critical |
| 20:52.54 | jnwhiteh | its all just 'stuff' |
| 20:53.05 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:53.08 | nevcairiel | but other stuff might come up |
| 20:53.19 | nevcairiel | i mean, the beta is usually buggy as hell, but i havent tried the bugs on the ptr |
| 20:53.21 | nevcairiel | so who knows |
| 20:53.36 | Jamash | they're not going to be patching for ui stuff alone, but they are going to be patching for "wtf the game does not work" |
| 20:53.36 | Kraps | woot http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/the_incredible_machine_mega_pack |
| 20:53.48 | Jamash | saucy |
| 20:54.23 | Jamash | those games teach questionable lessons about physics |
| 20:54.46 | Jamash | like motor + generator = infinite energy |
| 20:54.58 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:55.12 | Jamash | same for lamp + photoelectric panel |
| 20:55.29 | Xyphoid | and what about the animal exploitation |
| 20:56.54 | Kraps | i need a pinball game |
| 20:57.56 | Kraps | why the HELL did ms take it out of vista/7? |
| 20:58.00 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:58.26 | Shirik | http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=28116 |
| 20:58.29 | nevcairiel | they did? |
| 20:58.37 | Lunessa | I've been playing Cataclysm since the Alpha, and while they still have some things to finish, my experience says that they're in very good shape for their announced release date. |
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| 20:58.41 | nevcairiel | Its just not in this stupid business version i have =p |
| 21:00.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel, Stanzilla: http://i52.tinypic.com/x1yrdi.png |
| 21:00.42 | nevcairiel | I dont see how that is an achievement |
| 21:00.45 | nevcairiel | its just logical! |
| 21:01.00 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 21:01.04 | Gnarfoz | it's one of those anti-achievements |
| 21:01.19 | Kraps | Shirik: that looks legit... |
| 21:02.15 | Kraps | k no viruses |
| 21:03.14 | foxlit | http://images.macrumors.com/article/2010/10/11/161151-ballmer_windows_phones.jpg |
| 21:03.22 | foxlit | Awesome framking, really |
| 21:06.31 | Jamash | why the heck would you buy 10 of the same glyph on the ptr |
| 21:06.31 | Lunessa | foxlit: Oddly, those phones look just like every other smart phone. *chuckle* |
| 21:07.25 | amro | disappointing imo |
| 21:07.30 | amro | unless he throws one at the end |
| 21:08.07 | amro | I need an sc2 achievemnt worth only 2 points |
| 21:08.10 | foxlit | Jamash: clearly cornering the market for PTR glyphs to get more PTR gold to... dunno. |
| 21:08.30 | Jamash | I bought 20 of each DK glyph from the glyph vendor and listed them all on the AH |
| 21:08.40 | Jamash | expecting lazy people to buy the, |
| 21:08.42 | Jamash | m |
| 21:08.52 | nevcairiel | because gold is important on the ptr |
| 21:08.53 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:08.54 | Jamash | I didn't expect *stupid* people to buy more than one of each |
| 21:10.35 | ranguvar | D'oh |
| 21:15.36 | Kraps | 4.2 million points SUP |
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| 21:18.49 | Kraps | thanks Shirik |
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| 21:27.34 | Cide | grrr |
| 21:28.03 | Xyphoid | okay someone paid 142g for a glyph |
| 21:28.04 | Cide | minecraft.net is down |
| 21:29.02 | amro | good |
| 21:29.04 | amro | get back to sc2 |
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| 21:29.17 | Cide | nou |
| 21:29.18 | amro | just had a mirror match worthy of the name on metalopolis |
| 21:29.34 | amro | close spawns, overlords were on each others bases within 2 minutes |
| 21:29.40 | amro | and we were both just waiting for the other to make the first move |
| 21:29.41 | Kraps | Xyphoid: why?! |
| 21:29.44 | amro | and ended up doing almost the same thing |
| 21:29.55 | amro | except he sucks and went roaches, I went straight to mutas and instawon |
| 21:30.05 | Cide | roaches are terribad |
| 21:30.42 | amro | yeah, speedlings win any day, spine crawlers if you really need em |
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| 21:33.00 | Cide | so the question is how to get kdevelop to not suck on fedora 13 |
| 21:33.05 | Cide | so that I can debug this shit |
| 21:33.48 | amro | you really need 4.5 |
| 21:33.54 | amro | for the really sexy stuff they added |
| 21:34.13 | amro | http://www.mninja.org/images/kdevelop_dbg.png not really a good shot but you can see some of it |
| 21:34.32 | Cide | that's in the version I had I think |
| 21:34.40 | Cide | but gdb wasn't working properly |
| 21:35.14 | amro | what's the problem with installing 4.5? |
| 21:35.16 | amro | bad packages? |
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| 21:35.28 | Cide | well I'm a newbie but as far as I could tell |
| 21:35.36 | Cide | it was either installing that from source and keeping two installs |
| 21:35.47 | Lunessa | In which I am unrepentantly capitalist: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026332296&sid=2000&pageNo=2#30 |
| 21:35.49 | Cide | or I'd have to update fedora |
| 21:35.53 | Cide | which was a bad idea |
| 21:36.10 | Cide | kde 4.5 seems to only be available through the package manager with fedora 14 |
| 21:36.13 | amro | ah. but kdev4 master requires kde 4.5.2 |
| 21:36.23 | amro | so you couldn't compile it if you tried |
| 21:36.29 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:36.33 | Cide | I'd need kde 4.5 |
| 21:36.39 | Cide | 4.5.2 I guess |
| 21:36.40 | Cide | same thing |
| 21:36.42 | Cide | almost |
| 21:36.43 | Cide | ! |
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| 21:36.56 | amro | almost, save for a backported bug that didn't make the 4.5.1 packaged release |
| 21:37.07 | amro | you can use 4.5.1 + compile katepart though |
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| 21:37.35 | Cide | well I'm mostly just interested in gdb working |
| 21:37.51 | Cide | maybe the version in the fedora repos is full of fail |
| 21:37.54 | amro | kate has gdb support now, git head, but no idea how good it is |
| 21:38.08 | amro | (then again it likely requires 4.5.2 as well...) |
| 21:38.12 | Cide | yep |
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| 21:38.39 | Cide | gotta install boost first of all |
| 21:38.40 | Cide | yay |
| 21:39.17 | amro | other than the fact that it takes forever if you compile the libs, boost install is painless |
| 21:39.35 | Cide | I'm compiling the libs |
| 21:39.38 | Cide | with boost python |
| 21:39.40 | amro | imo, get kubuntu 10.10, at least until you can upgrade to f14 |
| 21:39.48 | Cide | why? |
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| 21:40.00 | amro | because kdev4 is easy to setup |
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| 21:40.04 | Angayelle | hello again |
| 21:40.11 | Cide | well I kinda like fedora |
| 21:40.11 | amro | kubuntu has the latest kdelibs and qt4libs |
| 21:40.22 | amro | like I said as a temporary solution |
| 21:40.25 | Cide | meh |
| 21:40.34 | Cide | if gdb works this time I'll be fine |
| 21:40.40 | Cide | it kinda works |
| 21:40.42 | Cide | but kinda not |
| 21:40.45 | Cide | and it crashes |
| 21:40.53 | Cide | so I guess that goes under doesn't work |
| 21:41.10 | amro | yeah you don't want your debugger to crash |
| 21:41.14 | amro | you're doing enough of that presumably |
| 21:41.21 | Cide | mostly |
| 21:41.26 | Jamash | $ gdb gdb program |
| 21:41.34 | Jamash | segfault |
| 21:41.34 | Cide | is the kdevelop debugger just a front-end to gdb? |
| 21:41.36 | Cide | it seemed that way |
| 21:41.39 | Jamash | $ gdb gdb gdb program |
| 21:41.41 | amro | yeah |
| 21:41.45 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:41.48 | Jamash | etc |
| 21:41.51 | Cide | that'd be awesome Jamash |
| 21:41.55 | Cide | now debug it by induction |
| 21:42.13 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 21:42.18 | Cide | anyway |
| 21:42.28 | Cide | what happens with the kdev debugger |
| 21:42.33 | Cide | is that I go to the gdb tab |
| 21:42.37 | Cide | and type in some gdb command |
| 21:42.45 | Cide | and it pops up a dialog saying the gdb debugger isn't running |
| 21:42.50 | Cide | but I'm debugging with the front-end |
| 21:43.02 | Cide | and then I click ok and then gdb spits out the thing I was looking for |
| 21:43.08 | Cide | so it obviously IS running |
| 21:43.18 | amro | speaking of crashing debuggers |
| 21:43.19 | amro | http://www.mninja.org/images/pagefault.png |
| 21:43.55 | amro | Cide: why are you typing in commands? |
| 21:44.04 | amro | the frontend does pretty much everything better |
| 21:44.07 | Shirik | cide |
| 21:44.10 | Shirik | wtf is this "rescue" crap |
| 21:44.11 | Cide | I couldn't find how to look at memory |
| 21:44.17 | Cide | hm, Shirik ? |
| 21:44.19 | Shirik | http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/netbeans_screenshot_of_the_week6 |
| 21:44.20 | Shirik | rescue |
| 21:44.21 | Shirik | what is it |
| 21:44.25 | Angayelle | upon the very first loading of an addon, a variables is neither false nor true right ? |
| 21:44.39 | Cide | where? |
| 21:44.42 | Angayelle | it just doesn't exist ? |
| 21:44.58 | amro | Angayelle: a given name is nil until it is defined |
| 21:45.03 | Cide | there are like 15 screenshots on that page and "rescue" isn't in text anywhere Shirik |
| 21:45.07 | amro | lua> print(foo) |
| 21:45.07 | lua_bot | amro: nil |
| 21:45.16 | amro | lua> foo =1; print(foo) |
| 21:45.16 | lua_bot | amro: 1 |
| 21:45.18 | Shirik | the first one? |
| 21:45.21 | Angayelle | mucho thanks |
| 21:45.29 | Cide | ruby? |
| 21:46.10 | amro | rescue is ruby's catch |
| 21:46.15 | Cide | amro: the variables tab was pretty much useless to me |
| 21:46.23 | Cide | it didn't allow me to dig deeper into the values |
| 21:46.33 | Cide | like std::pair I couldn't inspect the second or first object |
| 21:46.34 | amro | ah, yeah it needs some work there |
| 21:46.43 | amro | sometimes you can inspect deeper, sometimes not even for the same type |
| 21:46.44 | Cide | so I was going to use gdb to print me some stuff |
| 21:46.54 | Cide | Shirik: I don't know ruby... |
| 21:46.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:47.03 | Shirik | I didn't know that was ruby |
| 21:47.05 | Cide | wow |
| 21:47.16 | Cide | you must be awful at python! |
| 21:47.18 | amro | you fail |
| 21:47.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:47.31 | amro | python has the most recognizable source of any language |
| 21:47.37 | Shirik | I saw "def" |
| 21:47.40 | Shirik | I was like "python!" |
| 21:47.43 | Cide | but no colons |
| 21:47.47 | Cide | and no underscores |
| 21:47.48 | Cide | ! |
| 21:47.49 | Shirik | and |
| 21:47.50 | Shirik | yeah |
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| 21:47.53 | Shirik | I was about to say that.. |
| 21:47.59 | Cide | and |
| 21:48.03 | Cide | Gem::RubyGemsVersion |
| 21:48.07 | Cide | def rubygems_version |
| 21:48.26 | amro | plus the title of the post and just about everything on that page |
| 21:48.35 | Cide | and the fact that you're awful |
| 21:48.46 | Cide | bring minecraft.net up for me though will you? |
| 21:49.00 | Shirik | kinda in class atm |
| 21:49.01 | Shirik | why? |
| 21:49.22 | Cide | I lost my save and the initial play needs to be online for verification |
| 21:49.35 | Shirik | lol. |
| 21:49.43 | kd3|netbook | ooh, neat. an asteroid's about to buzz the tower tomorrow |
| 21:50.22 | kd3|netbook | rather, one we just discovered on the 9th |
| 21:52.10 | kd3|netbook | http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-332 |
| 21:52.33 | Cide | close call imo! |
| 21:52.59 | Cide | well |
| 21:53.00 | Cide | zero probability |
| 21:53.11 | amro | I call it |
| 21:53.14 | amro | it's mine |
| 21:53.16 | kd3|netbook | only about 10k kilometers from taking out a geostationary satellite |
| 21:53.19 | kd3|netbook | >.> |
| 21:53.20 | Cide | but looking at the picture it certainly looks close! |
| 21:53.27 | Cide | 10k kilometers is nothing |
| 21:53.28 | Kraps | shoot it |
| 21:53.47 | Cide | you know what I should do |
| 21:53.54 | Cide | figure out the next time something like that happens |
| 21:54.08 | Cide | and launch a satellite into collision course |
| 21:54.11 | Legorol | 4.0 TOC is 40000, right? |
| 21:54.11 | Cide | and livestream the footage |
| 21:54.20 | Cide | that would be great. |
| 21:54.34 | kd3|netbook | yes lego |
| 21:54.38 | Legorol | ty |
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| 21:56.20 | amro | Cide: you could also just shoot down a satellite from your secret island |
| 22:00.32 | Cide | or that yeah |
| 22:02.05 | Cide | sigh |
| 22:02.12 | Cide | I committed my changes but forgot to add the files |
| 22:02.15 | Cide | damn you git |
| 22:06.43 | Shirik | Lunessa, you know fortran right? |
| 22:07.19 | Lunessa | Shirik: I'm not any good at fortran though, since the last time I used it for anything you weren't born yet. |
| 22:07.29 | Shirik | hah >< |
| 22:07.32 | amro | ~Lunessa++ |
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| 22:11.55 | Kraps | 12 hour maintenance |
| 22:12.08 | Shirik | Cide |
| 22:12.13 | Shirik | git commit --amend |
| 22:12.14 | Kraps | and that'll be on a good day |
| 22:12.35 | Shirik | or even better yet |
| 22:12.42 | Shirik | git reset --soft HEAD^ |
| 22:13.02 | Shirik | why do I know these commands |
| 22:13.02 | Shirik | gah |
| 22:16.37 | Cide | Shirik: yeah, I'll do that before I reformat next time |
| 22:16.50 | Shirik | ?? |
| 22:16.55 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:16.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:17.04 | Shirik | loooooooool |
| 22:17.07 | Shirik | `git status`! |
| 22:19.38 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:22.51 | Cide | too bad I lost like 200 lines of code |
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| 22:39.56 | amro | opewkfpwoek |
| 22:40.10 | amro | is there a way to make arrowkeys behave sanely in the chatbox without requiring you to hold alt? |
| 22:40.28 | Gnarfoz | every chat mod under the sun? |
| 22:40.35 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:40.47 | amro | in the default client* |
| 22:40.48 | amro | and no |
| 22:40.51 | Kraps | although ive only ever used prat |
| 22:40.56 | amro | prat doens't do it |
| 22:40.59 | amro | at least not ootb |
| 22:41.06 | amro | and not any easily visible setting |
| 22:41.57 | Gnarfoz | huh"? |
| 22:42.00 | Gnarfoz | prat most certainly does it. |
| 22:42.22 | amro | most certainly does not, unless it's a more recent addition |
| 22:42.35 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 22:42.41 | Gnarfoz | it has been doing it for as long as it existed. |
| 22:42.45 | Gnarfoz | editbox module |
| 22:42.47 | Gnarfoz | stop arguing. |
| 22:43.05 | amro | im not arguing, I said not out of the box |
| 22:43.08 | Gnarfoz | (unless of course, by "sane" you meant something else than "not requiring alt to be pressed") |
| 22:43.10 | amro | that's your cue to say, "there's a module |
| 22:43.17 | Gnarfoz | prat is modular, duh. |
| 22:43.17 | amro | not, "yeah it does!!!" |
| 22:43.25 | Gnarfoz | and prat was NOT modular at some point. |
| 22:43.28 | amro | this is pointless |
| 22:47.10 | Kemayo | Prat definitely did it out of the box last time I used it. |
| 22:48.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 22:53.27 | amro | not here, had to update it |
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| 23:03.12 | alestane | Well, it's officially official...4.0.1 tomorrow. |
| 23:03.17 | kd3|netbook | yar |
| 23:03.23 | Sixen | Orly? |
| 23:03.34 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27189089214&sid=1 |
| 23:03.38 | Sixen | I missed the memo ,:( |
| 23:03.41 | Sixen | thanks ale. |
| 23:04.09 | Arrowmaster | should i reenable comments on the cartographer page for the lolz |
| 23:04.25 | kd3|netbook | is watching users froth at the mouth funny? |
| 23:04.29 | kd3|netbook | absolutely! |
| 23:04.30 | kd3|netbook | do it |
| 23:05.29 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: DO EEEEEEET |
| 23:06.45 | Arrowmaster | i did it |
| 23:07.03 | amro | still better than youtube comments |
| 23:07.10 | Lunessa | Woot. /me goes tyo post frothing that Cartographer breaks when I install 4.0.1 |
| 23:07.53 | alestane | Oh, Sixen? It's not "ale". "Ale" is a malt beverage. "Ales". |
| 23:08.14 | Sixen | Well, excuse me, :(. |
| 23:08.24 | alestane | Sorry, pet peeve of mine. |
| 23:08.48 | Sixen | Maybe you should'veleft that "e" out, ;) |
| 23:08.52 | Sixen | alstane. |
| 23:09.50 | Lunessa | That would be said as "Alz-tain" not "Alice-tain" |
| 23:10.29 | Sixen | :( |
| 23:10.55 | Sixen | Lewnessa. |
| 23:11.19 | kd3|netbook | wait, wait, it's pronounced alice-tain? I've been thinking alz-tain this whole time |
| 23:11.20 | Lunessa | I'm working on a way to convince people it's "Lewd-ness-ah" |
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| 23:12.27 | Sixen | I would prefer Lawdnessa. |
| 23:13.52 | amro | says Sick-sen |
| 23:14.21 | Sixen | Actually, I had to use Sicksen on some things where 5-chars weren't allowed... like Skype. |
| 23:14.24 | Sixen | And Gmail, ;) |
| 23:14.37 | kd3|netbook | at least my name's pretty unambiguious... 'kay-dee-three' |
| 23:14.40 | kd3|netbook | >.> |
| 23:15.00 | Dagmar | Any relation to kD-trees? |
| 23:15.11 | kd3|netbook | no, also no relation to k.d. lang |
| 23:15.37 | kd3|netbook | which actually got asked of me once, as best as I can tell, in a non-trolling manner |
| 23:15.54 | Sixen | KDE. |
| 23:16.16 | kd3|netbook | nope; I use xfce. ;) |
| 23:16.20 | Sixen | ;p |
| 23:17.24 | Duman | haha |
| 23:17.30 | Sixen | Dewmon. |
| 23:17.40 | Duman | howdy doody |
| 23:17.52 | Sixen | Did you get my message last night btw? I sent it to kd3 too haha |
| 23:17.59 | kd3|netbook | ya |
| 23:18.11 | Duman | heh yeah |
| 23:18.30 | kd3|netbook | goes back to trying to pay attention to his professor |
| 23:18.37 | Duman | heh |
| 23:18.39 | Duman | what class? |
| 23:18.47 | kd3|netbook | database design |
| 23:18.54 | Sixen | so much for paying attentin |
| 23:18.54 | kd3|netbook | had to take it, they wouldn't let me test out of it |
| 23:18.59 | Duman | heh |
| 23:19.06 | Duman | at least they offer classes like that now :P |
| 23:19.10 | kd3|netbook | ya |
| 23:19.12 | Duman | no such thing when I was in school |
| 23:19.20 | Duman | granted, taht was 15+ years ago, lol |
| 23:20.24 | Sixen | I'm only a Sopho :(. You win. |
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| 23:25.15 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 23:25.37 | Cide | git command to show the diff between the previous commit and head? |
| 23:25.42 | Cide | you have 15 seconds go |
| 23:26.53 | Cide | boo |
| 23:29.41 | kd3|netbook | grr; c'mon election day |
| 23:29.49 | kd3|netbook | is tired of seeing local election ads all over the net |
| 23:30.02 | cbreak | Cide: git diff HEAD^..HEAD |
| 23:30.12 | cbreak | or, git show |
| 23:30.52 | cbreak | or git log -p -1 |
| 23:31.12 | cbreak | Cide: just pick one :) |
| 23:31.38 | Cide | why thank you |
| 23:32.18 | Lunessa | Hrm... apparently I used getglobal often and need to rewrite a little bit. |
| 23:35.02 | Duman | yay, addon update spam mails! ;) |
| 23:35.11 | Sixen | w00t |
| 23:45.22 | Lunessa | kd3: You need a goblin mage called Stepthree. |
| 23:47.44 | Kraps | Lunessa: what do you make? |
| 23:48.30 | Lunessa | I'm redoing BindingsReminder - and LootTracker is mine now too, but it's in the "rewrite from scratch" phase. |
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| 23:49.55 | Lunessa | but I was getting lazy and used getglobal often. Which is not really good now since it's depreciated and only has a Lua implementation for backwards compatibility. So I need to do it correctly. :) |
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| 23:50.16 | alestane | It's a find/replace fix if you're using an editor with patterns. |
| 23:50.30 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 23:51.13 | A-KO | okay |
| 23:51.15 | A-KO | I've just seen everything |
| 23:51.16 | Lunessa | I was just looking over the code since 4.0.1 is tomorrow. |
| 23:52.05 | TMc51 | anybody know of a decent us server? i've had as much as i can handle of aerie peak, and need someplace new. =\ |
| 23:52.23 | alestane | I'm probably going to spend tomorrow working on Goose. |
| 23:52.31 | alestane | And CoolFloat a little. |
| 23:52.45 | Legorol | [MC] Can you affect any physical changes in the world using redstone? Apart from opening doors. |
| 23:53.22 | Kraps | TMc51: many of us are on kirin tor alliance |
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| 23:54.04 | Lunessa | alestane: I've been putting it off 'cause I'm lazy and have only had 1 day weekends for the last month. And while BindingsReminder /should/ work in 4.0.1 best to have it all nice and updated. |
| 23:55.25 | TMc51 | Kraps how is it over there? was asking about it a few days ago, but didnt get many answers about trolls/arsehat population. |
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| 23:56.01 | Kraps | tbh i'm not on much |
| 23:56.10 | Lunessa | TMc51: No worse than any other server I've been on. |
| 23:56.10 | Kraps | until cata |
| 23:56.48 | TMc51 | AP is one of the worst servers troll-wise. makes you want to kill off the entire human population at times D: |
| 23:57.32 | TMc51 | is it a reroll friendly server, at least? if so, I'll definitely roll up a toon and check it out. |
| 23:57.52 | alestane | I didn't have any problem. |
| 23:58.06 | alestane | I crash-leveled to about 71 just off the dungeon finder. |
| 23:58.35 | TMc51 | I'll check it out tomorrow, after servers come up, then. |
| 23:58.46 | Lunessa | TMc51: And if you join Grounding Totem, there's at least some community support from people like me. |
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| 23:59.24 | TMc51 | yeah, I'll give it a chance, and if I like it, I'll transfer my Druid over. =) |
| 23:59.26 | Kraps | is anyone still working on Minion? |
