| 00:00.41 | tem | Mirrormn, |
| 00:00.43 | tem | ping |
| 00:00.49 | tem | My mom's car needs a jump |
| 00:01.03 | tem | I'm leave now so I may be late to raid |
| 00:01.08 | tem | please pass that along |
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| 00:07.55 | amro | cog|away: the video is killing me |
| 00:08.02 | amro | I'm trying to click the queen and inject larvae |
| 00:09.20 | kd3 | ooh; gc just called out the UI devs |
| 00:09.35 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026396849&pageNo=2&sid=2000 |
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| 00:20.55 | Cairenn | Jamash: it's a no from Blizz, poofed |
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| 00:31.32 | Yssaril | ~ping |
| 00:31.32 | purl | ~pong |
| 00:36.14 | Kraps | best episode of the guild ever? survey says yes http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/season-4-episode-12-guild-hall/y016gv5e |
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| 00:45.45 | Adys | Arrowmaster: still here? |
| 00:45.52 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:46.13 | Adys | Cairenn: whats poofed? |
| 00:47.00 | Cairenn | Adys: Jamash knows |
| 00:47.08 | Adys | oO |
| 00:47.10 | Adys | mmk! |
| 00:47.25 | Adys | thought you were talking about something else |
| 00:47.29 | Cairenn | nope |
| 00:47.59 | Kraps | is http://store.steampowered.com/ slow for anyone else? |
| 00:48.45 | Yssaril | Kraps: what did you exepect from a steampowered website nuclear is the way to go imo |
| 00:49.04 | Yssaril | (loaded normal for me though) |
| 00:49.56 | DWSR | Works for Me (tm) |
| 00:50.52 | amro | Adys: who are you calling pouffe? |
| 00:51.15 | Iriel | Kraps: Works for me too |
| 00:52.10 | Kraps | L4D & L4D2 are 66% off |
| 00:52.25 | Iriel | I already own those |
| 00:53.48 | Yssaril | would "Swift...Wind Rider" be an acceptable way to name group of mounts that fall into that category or should ... be something else? |
| 00:54.44 | amro | what's the ... now? |
| 00:55.15 | Yssaril | its just ... would stand for any of the colors the wind riders come in |
| 00:56.10 | Adys | Cairenn: just to check, the dinner is on the 21st yes? |
| 00:56.17 | Yssaril | Swift Green Wind Rider, Swift Yellow Wind Rider, Swift Red Wind Rider etc |
| 00:56.43 | amro | oh, I'd name them "Swift Wind Rider" |
| 00:56.56 | Cairenn | Adys: yes |
| 00:57.01 | Adys | k |
| 00:57.09 | Yssaril | amro: DUH why didnt i think of that :P |
| 00:57.49 | amro | I'm lazy so whenever people ask me to fill in the blanks I leave them blank |
| 01:02.18 | Yssaril | amro: here is the result of my lazyness :P http://paste.wowace.com/2542/ |
| 01:02.31 | Yssaril | partial result at least |
| 01:03.52 | amro | yeah you're missing a key mount |
| 01:04.23 | Yssaril | i'm missing a buch of mounts :P |
| 01:05.30 | Yssaril | not the point though that list was not hand generated as such i can apply it in my addon to auto sort mine or anyone elses mounts :) |
| 01:05.48 | Adys | he was talking about your sister |
| 01:05.56 | Adys | she's in the category 3-player mount. |
| 01:06.02 | Yssaril | lol |
| 01:06.27 | amro | thanks adys, but I would have preferred it if you set me up for the finisher instead :/ |
| 01:06.42 | Adys | your sister already did that for me. |
| 01:07.47 | amro | yeah, we all know you can't really get there on your own. |
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| 01:16.47 | Jerub | british kid doing 24 different accents: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM |
| 01:20.35 | amro | someone send him a gilette |
| 01:22.56 | Arrowmaster | 12 wasnt an accent |
| 01:23.16 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: which one was #12? |
| 01:23.29 | Arrowmaster | us american general |
| 01:23.34 | ckknight | that is an accent |
| 01:23.36 | ckknight | I hope you realize. |
| 01:23.40 | ckknight | it's a very flat accent |
| 01:23.50 | ckknight | but it has its own intricacies |
| 01:26.10 | amro | ok, why does everyone slip in SIMLPE french words when doing a french accent? |
| 01:26.20 | cog|away | amro: i can't unsee it so i have to share it... i drew a creep penis in that episode... (look at the minimap in part 3) |
| 01:26.21 | amro | if anything, it's the complicated words they can't translate that they say in french |
| 01:26.34 | cogwheel | i totally didn't mean to >< |
| 01:27.00 | amro | cogwheel: rofl, took me a sec to notice it |
| 01:27.55 | cogwheel | Ackis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYnmo5mW5sM |
| 01:27.58 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 01:30.36 | TC-Away | cogwheel: freudian slip |
| 01:31.39 | cogwheel | amro: my two "uploader" comments have an interesting connection if you read the sentences together... |
| 01:32.07 | cogwheel | s/" comments/ comments" |
| 01:32.45 | amro | I still think you should delete the first one and end all your videos with "cogwheel the f-" |
| 01:33.59 | cogwheel | >< |
| 01:45.23 | SqueeG | shouldn't really be difficult for brits to do 24 different accents |
| 01:45.34 | SqueeG | they have a different accent for each bloody town you visit anyway |
| 01:46.21 | SqueeG | so between Englands, Scotland, Ireland and Wales, i'm sure they could do about 16 different dialects |
| 01:46.31 | SqueeG | then add in jamaican, australian, new zealand |
| 01:52.01 | Yssaril | anyone on that can invite me to the US PVE beta author guild? |
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| 02:05.49 | cralor | No WoW UI panel? :*( |
| 02:05.55 | Cairenn | no :( |
| 02:06.28 | cralor | stinks =/ |
| 02:07.07 | Cairenn | yes |
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| 02:09.40 | cralor | Probably not a very WoW-oriented BlizzCon this time around |
| 02:09.53 | cralor | Diablo III news and SC2 xpac most likely |
| 02:10.16 | Yssaril | maybe they will finally anounce that mystery mmo the are supposedly working on |
| 02:10.27 | cralor | ooh. what panel would that be tho? |
| 02:10.38 | cralor | looking at the schedule atm |
| 02:10.38 | Thunder_Child | the main one |
| 02:10.46 | cogwheel | opening ceremony? |
| 02:10.55 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:10.59 | cogwheel | at least for the initial announcement |
| 02:11.01 | Thunder_Child | anything that big would be |
| 02:11.18 | cogwheel | my gut says it's still to early but wtf do i know? |
| 02:11.41 | A-KO | I think this blizzcon will be relatively boring |
| 02:11.43 | A-KO | which is why I opted out :P |
| 02:11.53 | cogwheel | bah... ever since i started hanging out on sc2 forums i've been missing the extra o in too |
| 02:11.57 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 02:12.49 | cralor | lol |
| 02:13.07 | cralor | ya, probably not one of the better BlizzCon's |
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| 02:17.00 | Kraps | so the stream is not worth it? :/ |
| 02:17.20 | A-KO | probably not unless you want the pet |
| 02:17.26 | A-KO | the pet's always been the reason for the stream and shit though |
| 02:17.31 | Kraps | nope |
| 02:19.05 | kd3 | ah, bugzilla |
| 02:19.11 | kd3 | "Please include your latitude, longitude, and elevation in your bug report, so we know where to target the ICBM." |
| 02:19.14 | Kraps | i would not buy a pet for $40 unless you threatened to break a bone |
| 02:20.08 | Mirrormn | what if you knew you could sell it for more later? |
| 02:20.35 | Kraps | too complicated |
| 02:20.54 | Mirrormn | Kraps no can think that hard head hurt |
| 02:21.11 | Kraps | i'll probably get the stream, i'm easily entertained |
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| 02:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | hey python know-it-alls |
| 02:36.30 | ScytheBlade1 | How do I close stdout for os.system() and os.system() alone? |
| 02:37.24 | Dagmar | popen commands. |
| 02:37.30 | Dagmar | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/redirect-stdout-of-os-system-420796/ |
| 02:37.58 | ScytheBlade1 | so, don't use os.system() |
| 02:38.11 | ScytheBlade1 | that's... quite a bit more effort than I hoped |
| 02:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | (that specific example) |
| 02:38.39 | ScytheBlade1 | woo, stackoverflow to the rescue |
| 02:38.41 | ScytheBlade1 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/699325/suppress-output-in-python-calls-to-executables |
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| 02:44.11 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/demotivational-posters-you-dont-find.jpg |
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| 03:34.20 | Shirik | (23:31:17)  -⺠Join: phoenix__ (~user@125.38.22.67) |
| 03:34.21 | Shirik | (23:33:23) (phoenix__) hello, does anyone can speak chinese? |
| 03:36.40 | Shirik | so um |
| 03:36.47 | Shirik | my friend just made an underwater waterfall in minecraft |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | how, I don't know |
| 03:36.51 | Shirik | but he did |
| 03:42.37 | cogwheel | ~ping |
| 03:42.37 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:45.36 | Iriel | Shirik: Made, or found? |
| 03:45.46 | Iriel | I've found some pretty awesome lavafalls and waterfalls |
| 03:48.23 | Shirik | Iriel: made |
| 03:48.30 | Shirik | and I'm not talking like |
| 03:48.39 | Shirik | there's water above and then a cave underneath with a waterfall |
| 03:48.46 | Shirik | no, this is water that flows down, in the middle of the ocean |
| 03:48.57 | Shirik | like a whirlpool almost |
| 04:02.46 | Kraps | l4d or not? |
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| 04:04.07 | Kraps | Shirik |
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| 04:08.07 | Kraps | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1474724 |
| 04:10.11 | Jerub | http://xkcd.com/802_large/ |
| 04:14.00 | Mirrormn | do europeans use "bucks" as slang for euros? |
| 04:17.30 | Hjalte | I don't think so |
| 04:18.04 | Hjalte | but what do I know, I live in Denmark :> |
| 04:19.17 | Mirrormn | well the guy in kraps's screenshot seems to be using it that way, but he might just be an american using it incorrectly *shrug* |
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| 04:35.50 | Xinhuan | ~seen cide |
| 04:35.58 | purl | cide <~Cide@c213-100-51-33.swipnet.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 46m 23s ago, saying: 'I think so'. |
| 04:35.58 | Xinhuan | !seen cide |
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| 04:49.02 | Kemayo | I'm doing ZG for the first time since classic... there needs to be a profession bag for zg rep items. :P |
| 04:52.20 | cogwheel | it's all Duman's fault... |
| 04:52.26 | cogwheel | shakes his fist at bnet and fb |
| 04:52.35 | Jerub | fb is down |
| 04:52.54 | cogwheel | and sc2 servers ... |
| 04:53.00 | Jerub | ooooh |
| 04:53.01 | Jerub | nuts |
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| 04:53.02 | cogwheel | (though i haven't checked in a few mins) |
| 04:53.17 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/801651357 |
| 04:53.33 | Dagmar | Facebook is down?? OMG WHAT WILL WE DO! |
| 04:53.49 | Mirrormn | oh god |
| 04:53.51 | Torhal | Dagmar: Take down MySpace next? |
| 04:53.57 | Mirrormn | is the entire internet collapsing? |
| 04:54.11 | Dagmar | Would anyone *notice* if you took down MySpace? |
| 04:54.21 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:54.31 | msoul | Anyone here plays destro? |
| 04:54.35 | Jerub | Dagmar: see xkcd today? |
| 04:54.46 | Dagmar | I do destro currently |
| 04:55.04 | msoul | Dagmar: I've lvled it recently a week as a lock to be honest |
| 04:55.25 | msoul | played demo and affli enjoying playing as a demo more |
| 04:55.33 | Dagmar | msoul: I'm seriously considering going back to Demo because of that |
| 04:55.45 | Jerub | does anyone else lol when they see "LF5M 3 heals 2 tanks SomeRaid10" on /2 ? |
| 04:55.46 | msoul | but from everything I read I hear affli is the way to go these days |
| 04:55.57 | Dagmar | I could care less what the kiddies think |
| 04:56.12 | msoul | goodie |
| 04:56.13 | Dagmar | I just know I'm hitting 4400 on Coren Direbrew all the time as destruction |
| 04:56.30 | Jerub | Dagmar: can't use coren as a benchmark. too short a fight |
| 04:56.35 | Dagmar | ...and for him living only 12-15 seconds, that's pretty good |
| 04:56.39 | msoul | I didn't try destro that much to be honest |
| 04:56.52 | Jerub | my mage has to pop CDs as soon as the instance loads because he can't waste the GCDs when the fight has started. |
| 04:57.00 | Dagmar | Jerub: Well, the destruction spec is practically a mage-like spec. You just nuke. NOt much DoT involvement |
| 04:57.28 | msoul | Dagmar: cause of that I am considering to give it a shot as destro |
| 04:57.30 | Mirrormn | ironically, fire is becoming very dot-focused in cata |
| 04:57.33 | Dagmar | I may just dual-spec now that I've got T9 |
| 04:57.40 | msoul | dot and forget play-style is kinda boting :& |
| 04:57.51 | Jerub | fire mage? |
| 04:58.02 | msoul | oh your lock is recently dinged to 80 as well? |
| 04:58.02 | Mirrormn | yes |
| 04:58.02 | Jerub | my mage is arcane at the moment, has been since 65 |
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| 04:58.17 | Mirrormn | it's all about fire at high level |
| 04:58.19 | Mirrormn | wheeee |
| 04:58.21 | Dagmar | My lock dinged 80 a couple months back. |
| 04:58.33 | msoul | Dagmar: I like affli in WG only when I put mmy dots on those who fly up high and use patchute :) |
| 04:58.44 | Dagmar | I got the last two pieces of T9 after I switched from demonology |
| 04:58.49 | msoul | Dagmar: aah.. mine like a week ago |
| 04:59.13 | Dagmar | I kinda like the demon form. |
| 04:59.17 | msoul | Dagmar: Demo is fun to play really.. I just need to tweak few macros etc |
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| 04:59.28 | Dagmar | For entirely the wrong reasons. I especially like going into the Insanity fight in demon form |
| 04:59.46 | Jerub | Dagmar: you mean, OK last boss? |
| 04:59.50 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 04:59.51 | Jerub | that /is/ wrong. |
| 04:59.53 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 04:59.54 | Jerub | bad bad dagmar |
| 04:59.55 | msoul | better survivability than other specs too |
| 05:00.05 | Dagmar | Yeah I leveled as Demo and stacked stamina |
| 05:00.21 | Dagmar | My method of pulling was to just run into the middle of everyone and start handing out asses. |
| 05:00.36 | msoul | I died in dungeons more than I died in bgs cause of tanks can't maintain aggro :P |
| 05:00.49 | Mirrormn | one time, I was doing the last boss of OK on my DK |
| 05:00.52 | Dagmar | I'm thinking about switching back because of those two nice +170 stamina trinkets. |
| 05:01.01 | msoul | hmm |
| 05:01.08 | msoul | you're pvping with it? |
| 05:01.12 | Dagmar | No. |
| 05:01.16 | Dagmar | It converts to spellpower. |
| 05:01.34 | msoul | Hrm |
| 05:01.53 | Thrae | msoul: Tanks don't PVP, but PVP'rs do tank...usually healers |
| 05:02.03 | Mirrormn | and the other people in the group were so bad that they were completely unable to kill their adds, and then all of their respective sets of shadows killed me |
| 05:02.15 | Mirrormn | and then I was the only person to run back in |
| 05:02.24 | Mirrormn | so I just told them all to stay dead and I solo'd the boss =/ |
| 05:02.30 | Dagmar | lol |
| 05:02.45 | msoul | Thrae: I see |
| 05:02.47 | msoul | well |
| 05:03.08 | msoul | I'll probably spec destro and keep demo as offspec haven't tried it that much |
| 05:03.34 | msoul | all I do in affli, haunt, corr, ua, coa and shadowbolt |
| 05:04.02 | Thrae | Pre-80, Priests are usually the best effective tanks with Druids a close second. 80, Druids then Paladins. 85, I can't say yet. |
| 05:04.20 | msoul | kind of boring to put dots and more dots only without casting anything but shadowbolt |
| 05:04.24 | ZorbaBeta | hmm, is there something special that has to be done to make UI mods work on the PTR? |
| 05:04.49 | Seerah | no |
| 05:05.02 | Dagmar | I click the umm... shadow thing that gets your mana back and buffs spellpower, then generally curse of elements, then corruption (because I can), then that flaming hand thing, then the green dragon nuke, the yellow fire insta-nuke, and then filler shot for like 10k a pop if the game's decided I should die now |
| 05:05.04 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Aren't they still disabled on Cata? Maybe that's for 4.0.x PTR too. |
| 05:05.16 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, I heard they'd re-enabled them |
| 05:05.16 | Seerah | no, they've been enabled for a while |
| 05:05.19 | msoul | Dagmar: life tap? right I do that too :) |
| 05:05.20 | Dagmar | I could give two craps about what most of their names are. I just look at the icons and the numbers DrDamage puts on them |
| 05:05.29 | Dagmar | Yeah Life Tap as my opener. :) |
| 05:05.45 | Thrae | Seerah: Ah, I thought a heard a couple of weeks ago they were still disabled on one of the two PTRs. |
| 05:05.50 | ZorbaBeta | oh duh I'm an idiot never mind |
| 05:05.53 | msoul | yea but affli is boring to me atleast |
| 05:05.54 | Dagmar | I do now see why locks used to always be getting murdered in heroics |
| 05:05.55 | ZorbaBeta | man it's been too long |
| 05:06.11 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: "Enable Out of Date Addons"? |
| 05:06.13 | ZorbaBeta | note to self: when making a ui mod system, don't make it a silent error condition to rename a directory |
| 05:06.15 | Dagmar | ...because when all your conditionals are up, it's REALLY hard to stop mashing that button that's suddenly doing 10k a hit |
| 05:06.35 | msoul | though I've read if a lock looking for a personal dps meter thingie then should always spec as affli.. destro with high end gear would compete or get close to affli |
| 05:06.43 | Dagmar | I mean, seed of corruption is bad enough, but that thing... all I can generally think after seeing two 10k's is "Whee!" |
| 05:06.50 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Uhh...what? |
| 05:06.53 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i used to tank trash in 40mans because of those kinda situations |
| 05:06.54 | msoul | demo comes last as it provided good raid buff |
| 05:07.06 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, rename one of your UI mod's directories, note that the UI mod vanishes from the UI list with no error message. |
| 05:07.22 | ZorbaBeta | I kept my dev version of QH in a renamed directory, but I forgot about that when moving it over into the PTR. |
| 05:07.24 | Dagmar | Soul Fire was definitely a big hoot tho |
| 05:07.27 | msoul | Dagmar: hehe yeah locks crit is crazy.. |
| 05:07.40 | Dagmar | I was used to the Kill Shot mechanic because of my hunter, but onw *without a cooldown* OMG |
| 05:07.49 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Yeah, how is the WoW UI suppose to know you renamed a directory? |
| 05:07.53 | msoul | hehe |
| 05:08.04 | msoul | Dagmar: I use needtoknow to track decimation/molten core |
| 05:08.06 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you should have seen it back when negative resists still existed |
| 05:08.11 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, it scans all the directories anyway - it has to in order to find all the .toc's |
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| 05:08.25 | ZorbaBeta | it would be absolutely trivial for it to say "hey, there's a directory here with a misnamed .toc, maybe that's a problem" |
| 05:08.27 | ZorbaBeta | or you know |
| 05:08.36 | ZorbaBeta | just not require that a directory be named the same as a .toc |
| 05:08.38 | msoul | Arrowmaster: you play lock I pressume |
| 05:08.38 | ZorbaBeta | that would work as well |
| 05:08.45 | Arrowmaster | msoul: i did |
| 05:08.46 | msoul | or used to iirc |
| 05:08.59 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I just like that it fires a fireball the size of an oil barrel, and does it over and over real fast |
| 05:09.14 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: I thought you were talking about...ah. Well, it's common for Blizzard's own mods to not have the same directory as their main frame (although they try sometimes), so WoW Lua wasn't designed that way. |
| 05:09.22 | msoul | Arrowmaster: got mine to hit 80 like a week ago.... is destro as competitive as affli |
| 05:09.35 | Dagmar | THat spell is usually a slow-casting nightmare, but if you talent into it you can just whip them out almost one per GCD and they hit HARD |
| 05:09.39 | msoul | Dagmar: haha looks sweet too |
| 05:09.40 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, I'm just saying the current design is pretty damn unfriendly. |
| 05:10.04 | msoul | Dagmar: it happens when the mob is under 25% or 20% |
| 05:10.04 | Dagmar | msoul: I would generally hold off on demon form until it was going to be time to use that, just for the luls |
| 05:10.08 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: just think about this though, i was getting 10k crits sometimes back in classic at level 60 |
| 05:10.17 | Arrowmaster | major aggro snap |
| 05:11.01 | Dagmar | Decimation happens at 35% which is pretty damn early for a kill-shot mechanic, too |
| 05:11.11 | msoul | Dagmar: loving playing as a lock in general... only reason I maxed 2 professions and most fun too :) engi and enchanting |
| 05:11.13 | Jerub | the other night had a real dipshit pally tank in an icc25 run. he was boasting of how he applied to some australian guild ('adept') |
| 05:11.20 | Dagmar | Free Soul Fires and fast? Deeeelicious |
| 05:11.20 | Arrowmaster | i thought all the killshot type stuff was at 35% now |
| 05:11.20 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: I say it would be unfriendly if it demanded all directories be named after their TOCs. A scanning tool could be made to check TOC filename vs root directory filename. I think the new args passed to files you can even do some checks of your own. |
| 05:11.28 | msoul | hehehe |
| 05:11.35 | Jerub | enjoyed writing a little letter on the adept forums asking them to please recruit him so we could get him to server transfer |
| 05:11.40 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, well, it *does* demand that directories be named after their TOCs. I mean, that's why it didn't work. |
| 05:11.51 | msoul | I'm probably wrong about it |
| 05:11.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: NOpe. Hunters is still at 20% like always |
| 05:12.22 | msoul | Jerub: good luck... one of ensidias core admins moved there few months ago |
| 05:12.41 | msoul | Dagmar: what about destro thou8gh |
| 05:12.50 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: So from my point of view that's pretty much an extra 150% of "YEAH I GOTS MAH BIG PANTS ON NAO" time |
| 05:12.52 | msoul | I still haven't giving it a shot... all affli and demo |
| 05:13.00 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, I'm kind of laughing at the idea of someone bragging about applying to a guild |
| 05:13.06 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, I could apply to ALL the guilds |
| 05:13.13 | ZorbaBeta | how awesome of a player would that make me? i bet it's pretty awesome! |
| 05:13.15 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Mmm, I thought that was a 4.0 fix. |
| 05:13.32 | Dagmar | msoul: I became willing to make that tradeoff when I noticed that I was really, really frequently hitting 10k with the bread-and-butter shot |
| 05:13.33 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: i was all, "i'm so much better than you, i'm only here because i was asked to come, i don't need gear, i'm so awesome i'm applying to adept" |
| 05:13.46 | Dagmar | msoul: ...and that thing you get to use the whole way through. Heh |
| 05:13.53 | Jerub | his currently guild on my server is the same one that ninja'd a trinket out of an icc25 run i was in a while back and bitched about. |
| 05:14.13 | Jerub | s/i was/it was/ |
| 05:14.18 | Jerub | ffs. |
| 05:14.23 | Jerub | purl: wrong one you silly bot |
| 05:14.23 | purl | ACTION "one you silly bot, YOU ARE WRONG!" |
| 05:14.33 | msoul | Dagmar: hmm |
| 05:14.36 | Jerub | purl: owned. |
| 05:14.36 | purl | No one gives a shit, jerub. |
| 05:14.40 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Ah no, I think I was getting confused with addons I made for non-WoW games. Nevermind. |
| 05:14.43 | Jerub | :'( |
| 05:14.46 | kd3 | wtfs at purl tonight |
| 05:14.47 | msoul | Dagmar: have dualspec could try destro for a lil while |
| 05:14.58 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, I just realized I have the ultimate response to that kind of bragging |
| 05:15.03 | ZorbaBeta | "Yeah, well, my girlfriend's in Elitist Jerks." |
| 05:15.40 | ZorbaBeta | god I hope someone tries that on me someday :( |
| 05:16.00 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: is your gf really in ej? |
| 05:16.01 | Dagmar | msoul: Yeah this is why I'm thinking I might actually dual-spec |
| 05:16.07 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, my gf is indeed in EJ. |
| 05:16.08 | Jerub | didn't even know ej was a guild.. |
| 05:16.09 | Dagmar | Oh and NEVER running out of mana as destruction is pimp |
| 05:16.31 | ZorbaBeta | she's a better raider than I am. :) |
| 05:16.34 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: I'm guildless since I find most guilds wants you to have gear to the teeth... knowledge means nothing to them but gear and raids hms |
| 05:16.48 | msoul | kinda tough to meet those requirements when you're guildless |
| 05:16.59 | ZorbaBeta | msoul, the *good* guilds want you to be competent but would cheerfully gear you up. They're kind of tough to find though. |
| 05:17.02 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Just to cheese you off, I have screenshots of 35k kill shots on my hunter |
| 05:17.18 | Dagmar | THis is why they don't let us use it until 20% |
| 05:17.28 | kd3 | gah; damned blackboard |
| 05:17.33 | kd3 | stop pegging cores just trying to load java |
| 05:17.35 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: true... just for the record... don't care about gear nor give a squat for it |
| 05:17.38 | kd3 | grrrs |
| 05:17.51 | ZorbaBeta | I mean, EJ is one of those for example, but getting in is . . . kind of difficult |
| 05:18.00 | Jerub | i was in a pug a fortnight ago that cleared 11/12 and i gave them their first LK training. |
| 05:18.04 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yeah in classic a few times i got 10k crits on the first hit on a mob, pissed the tanks off to no end |
| 05:18.04 | msoul | I bet |
| 05:18.05 | Jerub | they're now a guild |
| 05:18.08 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Where do you get that WoW actually loads all files (or all TOCs) under Interface? Common sense tell me they'd go to <directory name> then try to load <directory name>.toc, if that fails, end. |
| 05:18.13 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, nice :D |
| 05:18.22 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: "Three sunders rule |
| 05:18.32 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, well, that's pretty much what they do, but it's not that much of a stretch to just scan the directory for .toc's instead |
| 05:18.33 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: i'm not /in/ the guild. but apparnetly their first week as a proper guild run they 1shot everything including sindy |
| 05:18.54 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: what's the entrance exam for EJ like? |
| 05:18.57 | msoul | Jerub: I still didn't down LK... every pug I get into is either the RL ninja an item or give it to his friend etc or ppl leave after a wipe or two in a specific encounter |
| 05:19.06 | kd3 | jerub; probably a 30-page dissertation |
| 05:19.13 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: those kinda hits from the negative resist days blow the three sunders rule away, it could have 5 sunders and still pull |
| 05:19.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: There's nothing wrong with standing there watching for ~10s before doing a damn thing, just because it's really easy to wind up at 110% before the fight is over |
| 05:19.23 | msoul | Dagmar: I'd go dualspec long ago if I were you |
| 05:19.27 | Jerub | msoul: ninjas don't annoy me because they steal items, they kill raids :( |
| 05:19.47 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, to be honest I'm not sure, but it's heavy on the "explain your rotation, explain why, tell us something you're thinking of changing" kind of thing |
| 05:19.54 | ZorbaBeta | i.e. "know your class and your abilities inside and out" |
| 05:19.56 | Dagmar | msoul: Well, I can't use them both at the same time, the glyphs are practically disposable, and either spec is more than enough for any heroic |
| 05:20.13 | msoul | Jerub: they did annoy me once... submitted a ticket and the GM said to me "it's up to him" had logs about him saying it and a screenshot all that didn't matter to the GM |
| 05:20.17 | Jerub | oh, incidentally, never really raided as a mage before the other day. |
| 05:20.17 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: That I have respect for |
| 05:20.20 | Jerub | FUCK I LOVE BLINK OMG |
| 05:20.23 | msoul | Jerub: he wanted to sell me the tanking trinket from gunship |
| 05:20.23 | Dagmar | lol |
| 05:20.24 | msoul | hc |
| 05:20.28 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Perhaps, depends on what cross-platform file mechanism they use between Windows and OS X. Initially they designed around XML so I don't think Lua is used internally. |
| 05:20.33 | Jerub | msoul: blizzard don't action ninjas |
| 05:20.41 | Dagmar | Jerub: Distance is good. |
| 05:20.43 | Jerub | msoul: it shits me. |
| 05:20.51 | Jerub | Dagmar: sindy + blink = <3 |
| 05:20.55 | msoul | Jerub: one of the reasons why I stopped raiding a while ago now.. all I do is weekly and voa pretty much |
| 05:21.10 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, they absolutely use Lua internally now, but I don't know what they used on design day. |
| 05:21.22 | Jerub | msoul: i stopped pugging raids until i interview RL |
| 05:21.27 | msoul | and thought I lvl an alt/profession etc |
| 05:21.31 | kd3 | xml and lots of it? |
| 05:21.38 | msoul | Jerub: having difficulties finding a decent guild |
| 05:21.42 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, it's a good group of people. I mean, I'm going in with ilvl220 gear and fucking up once in a while, and they were pretty damn supportive (the fact that I learn fast helps, of course) |
| 05:21.45 | Jerub | msoul: usually i track them down, look at their experience, their gear, ask them a question or two about their group makeup |
| 05:21.52 | ZorbaBeta | (and the fact that I'm going out with one of their best healers helps also, of course :P) |
| 05:22.04 | Arrowmaster | ive got a headache, im going to go lay down and try to sleep |
| 05:22.09 | msoul | Jerub: might move my char to a diff realm.. 5 chars atleast :/ |
| 05:22.48 | Thrae | Jerub: The last blue post from a few months ago I read about ninja'ing was that a ninja is actionable only if the raid leader using Master Looter *does* provide a clear setup beforehand, but there is lots of precedent from GMs that take action anyway. |
| 05:23.26 | msoul | Thrae: that thing meant nothingt to the GM I dealt with |
| 05:23.36 | Jerub | Thrae: in this case, raid was advertised as MS>OS 1 MS loot per boss, DBW reserved. this was stated in raid chat (I /always/ get them to say this in raid chat) |
| 05:23.45 | msoul | as I told him the masterlooter told it and took a screenshot of "nothing reserved" |
| 05:23.47 | Jerub | Thrae: and the person who got the item still has it |
| 05:23.59 | msoul | and another one him wanting to sell the trinket for 3k for me |
| 05:24.04 | msoul | wouldn't even pay 5g for it |
| 05:24.11 | msoul | to violate my ethics over an item |
| 05:24.23 | Jerub | Thrae: my experience is that blizzard simply does not do anything about ninjas and will give you form letter responses. |
| 05:24.31 | msoul | so again, blizz don't give a squat when it comes to ninjas |
| 05:24.35 | ZorbaBeta | I'm always amused when people fuck up their GDKP bids, trying to drive the price up or just bidding on an item that sucks for them, and then try to recover their mistake |
| 05:24.45 | ZorbaBeta | "whoops I bid 6k on something I can't use, who wants to buy it off me for 5.5k" |
| 05:24.59 | ZorbaBeta | ". . . I'll buy it for 200g. Final offer." |
| 05:25.01 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: never done a GDKP. on my realm they were very rare, and then there were 2 ninja GDKP runs in a week |
| 05:25.20 | Jerub | (apparently blizz policy with that is to take the money off the ninja but not redistribute it. lovely way to make a money-sink) |
| 05:25.33 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, I've mostly just heard stories of other people - they're pretty common on mal'ganis |
| 05:25.37 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: I don't think the modified version of Lua for WoW includes the official os module required for file manipulation, much less most os manipulation (not like it's needed). |
| 05:25.44 | ZorbaBeta | but I don't have the gear to get into one as a geared player, nor the money or interest to bid on stuff right now |
| 05:25.57 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, that's not much of a modification - removing lua libraries is literally a one-line-of-code change |
| 05:26.03 | ZorbaBeta | it's pretty much intended to be trivial |
| 05:26.04 | msoul | have 17k only :/ |
| 05:26.09 | Jerub | msoul: i have less than 5 ;) |
| 05:26.18 | ZorbaBeta | it's still the lua language, it's just missing a few libraries. |
| 05:26.21 | msoul | and I thought I was boor |
| 05:26.29 | msoul | Jerub: didn't even buy the 280% skill for the lock |
| 05:26.33 | ZorbaBeta | I've got <1.5k right now :( |
| 05:26.35 | msoul | lvled 2 professions instead |
| 05:26.38 | ZorbaBeta | (spent it all on zandalar rep) |
| 05:26.48 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Yeah, I was just saying if they're not using Lua I don't know what they're using for file access. There might be a reason they're so stingy with extras if it sucks, which it could considering the problems it has on Windows. |
| 05:26.50 | kd3 | ground out 280 skill back before dailies were implemented in 2.1 |
| 05:26.51 | Jerub | msoul: i only have epic flying on one toon. no interest in it on others. |
| 05:26.51 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: man don't remind me I used to play with gold before I bought silly stuff |
| 05:26.56 | Jerub | 310 flying is a joke too |
| 05:27.05 | msoul | hog/grands mammoth etc crafted myself some gear |
| 05:27.06 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, the file access is done in C++, Lua just doesn't have those libraries exposed |
| 05:27.23 | ZorbaBeta | they're likely using fopen/fclose |
| 05:27.36 | Thrae | Jerub: I've had first-hand knowledge of them taking action, but since you're not me you can dismiss me as anecdotal evidence (which it is, regardless). |
| 05:27.56 | msoul | Jerub: yeah.. 1 thing though... was gathering all the mats to craft the turbo mount for from engineering and later on I noticed "requires artisan" |
| 05:28.02 | msoul | was bummed |
| 05:28.14 | Jerub | Thrae: i'm curious as the timeframe. my experiences are recent. less than a month with two instances. |
| 05:28.31 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: The os module is C, not C++, as Lua and official libs are all ANSI C. |
| 05:29.04 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, yeah, but blizzard itself uses C++ |
| 05:29.06 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: should have done tbc reps instead :/ "if you don't have them already" |
| 05:29.13 | ZorbaBeta | msoul, those aren't going away, are they? |
| 05:29.43 | Thrae | Jerub: It was a few months ago, like 4...but there's no blue post stating an official policy differently while there are lots of anecdotal evidence which says the GMs themselves are not consistent depending on circumstance |
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| 05:30.02 | msoul | nah, but wouldn't spend gold on a rep myself :) would kept it for last but that's me |
| 05:30.20 | Thrae | Jerub: The last blue post gives one situation which shouldn't resolve in a ninja and says it's ultimately up to the GMs. |
| 05:30.25 | ZorbaBeta | see, Zandalar rep is actually going away, so if I don't get it now I'm not gonna get it |
| 05:30.29 | ZorbaBeta | and I want it |
| 05:30.31 | ZorbaBeta | so I get it now :P |
| 05:30.38 | msoul | aah |
| 05:30.45 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: What are people with Zandalar rep getting in return for it going away? |
| 05:30.52 | ZorbaBeta | well, it might be going away, it's not quite clear |
| 05:30.58 | ZorbaBeta | it is known that the instance you get it in is going away |
| 05:31.03 | durcyn | Thrae: a feat of strength for exalted, a swifth kick in the pants otherwise |
| 05:31.06 | ZorbaBeta | it may be going with it, it may not, blizzard hasn't said. |
| 05:31.17 | msoul | durcyn: which |
| 05:31.18 | ZorbaBeta | I wanted to take care of it anyway, so. |
| 05:31.22 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: An ANSI C lib can be compiled with C++ but not visa-versa. Just because libs are compiled under C++ doesn't mean they stop being ANSI C compliant ;) |
| 05:31.26 | durcyn | msoul: Zandalar |
| 05:31.31 | msoul | ah ok |
| 05:31.34 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, I'm aware of that, but none of this contradicts what I've said so far |
| 05:31.35 | durcyn | the faction is going poof with the instance. |
| 05:31.45 | ZorbaBeta | Blizzard doesn't use Lua for file manipulation, so how Lua does it is rather irrelevant. |
| 05:32.10 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: if you want to make gold in cata... try to get that turtle from ZG and sell it later!!!! |
| 05:32.19 | Thrae | ZorbaBeta: Neither does it for what I've said, so I'm confused on why you mentioned it to me specifically |
| 05:32.28 | msoul | I'm not doing it though |
| 05:32.36 | msoul | but it's going to worth something methinks |
| 05:32.47 | ZorbaBeta | thrae, I feel like we may have just misread each other. Let's move on to another conversation ;) |
| 05:33.03 | ZorbaBeta | I sort of dislike how Blizzard removes items permanently, I wish they'd jam them somewhere else |
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| 05:33.21 | ZorbaBeta | personally I'm kind of hoping they turn Zandalar into a little daily quest hub with the mounts available as rare drops |
| 05:33.45 | Thrae | Give people a "Vintage Shadowmourne" which does only 1-1 damage with infinite durability. |
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| 05:34.09 | ZorbaBeta | but still has three gem sockets |
| 05:34.15 | ZorbaBeta | just because it would be fucking hilarious |
| 05:34.15 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hksKLHt9Kzg&feature=channel |
| 05:34.27 | Thrae | Step 1) Rename all removed weapons with the "Vintage" prefix. Step 2) Add in-game Microtransactions via "Blizzard Wallet". Step 3) Profit! |
| 05:34.48 | msoul | Dagmar: what's your char name btw and eu or us realms |
| 05:37.40 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc3jMoFJrBQ |
| 05:39.14 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: are you going to maintain tanking on EJ for cata |
| 05:39.24 | msoul | tanking spreadsheet on ej |
| 05:40.34 | ZorbaBeta | msoul, not likely. I was running into problems with complexity as it was - I just couldn't do what I wanted within the confines of a spreadsheet |
| 05:40.42 | ZorbaBeta | it's more likely that I take over the Rawr plugin |
| 05:40.52 | ZorbaBeta | and it's even more likely that I just abandon the entire project :) |
| 05:40.58 | unfo- | btw... what's gonna be the new def cap in cata at 85? |
| 05:41.08 | ZorbaBeta | unfo, "nonexistent" |
| 05:41.13 | ZorbaBeta | def is being removed as an armor stat. |
| 05:41.15 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: I see |
| 05:41.16 | unfo- | ah. mechanics change |
| 05:41.22 | unfo- | ZorbaBeta, ty! |
| 05:41.29 | ZorbaBeta | you'll get uncrittability through a talent, like bear druids did :) |
| 05:41.33 | msoul | dodge baby and more dodge |
| 05:41.36 | unfo- | nice! |
| 05:41.45 | msoul | even darkmoon card for tanking |
| 05:41.59 | msoul | xxx dodge and xxxhp on proc iirc |
| 05:42.04 | ZorbaBeta | msoul, unfortunately I've just got way too goddamn much on my plate right now - an actual job with an MMORPG company, as well as trying to run my own game studio. Precious little time for other stuff :) |
| 05:42.45 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.45 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: nice, well good luck with every project tyou work on/with :) |
| 05:42.47 | ZorbaBeta | honestly if I spend any time making gear spreadsheets they'll probably be internal for the sake of balance calculations :P |
| 05:42.50 | ZorbaBeta | msoul, thanks :) |
| 05:42.52 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, yup |
| 05:42.53 | msoul | Dagmar: yeah old news :P |
| 05:42.54 | unfo- | yeah. i know what you mean: life gets in the way of fiddling with things ;) |
| 05:42.55 | Dagmar | Hot damn! |
| 05:43.02 | ZorbaBeta | yeah I'm really happy about it |
| 05:43.08 | Dagmar | That means I only have to buy one more set of T9! |
| 05:43.21 | msoul | Dagmar: check darkmoon cards for the lock.. only deck I like really the proc is sweet |
| 05:43.25 | Dagmar | I'm so glad I didn't actually just grind out both sets for nothing |
| 05:43.38 | Dagmar | msoul: I don't bother with Darkmoon cards much |
| 05:43.43 | msoul | all other procs is kinds "silly" |
| 05:43.45 | nevcairiel | how does defense being removed allow you to buy less items? |
| 05:44.00 | Dagmar | I fire up Rawr, look at the lists, and then decide what bit of shint to get my hands on next |
| 05:44.07 | msoul | Dagmar: good money off of them too! |
| 05:44.08 | Dagmar | s/shint/shiny/ |
| 05:44.36 | unfo- | nevcairiel, because you can use quite a lot of same gear for dps and tank and just get uncrittable via talents? |
| 05:45.06 | ZorbaBeta | unfo, you still need dodge/parry/stamina |
| 05:45.12 | nevcairiel | you know, being ncrittable doesnt magically make you a tank |
| 05:45.15 | Dagmar | msoul: I'm not hurting to money. I've got a miner, an engineer, a skinner, a leatherworker, an enchanter and a tailor all to 450 |
| 05:45.16 | nevcairiel | +u |
| 05:45.29 | Dagmar | er hurting to make money |
| 05:45.40 | msoul | Dagmar: LW/Skinner/miner/BS/JC/alchemy/enchanter and engineer here ;) |
| 05:45.41 | unfo- | sure sure, i didn't mean that you could tank raids with dps gear |
| 05:45.50 | Dagmar | I'm super pleased about the drake since I was going to make a worgen druid herbal/alch |
| 05:46.05 | unfo- | i meant you can exchange some tank (dodge) gear for some dps gear without worrying about a single stat like def |
| 05:46.10 | msoul | though I never bothered with AH "maybe 5-6 times that I sold items or so" on ah |
| 05:46.14 | Dagmar | ...just to complete the set. Not really interested in blacksmithing tho |
| 05:46.35 | Dagmar | msoul: Whenever I want money I just go make some stuff that I'd use myself |
| 05:46.40 | msoul | Dagmar: I just hope the mats won't be that high as I am not herbalist... if I don't get bored lvling this alt will have it |
| 05:46.56 | msoul | my dk is jc/alchemist |
| 05:46.57 | ZorbaBeta | unfo, yeah, it's definitely an improvement in that regards |
| 05:47.06 | nevcairiel | imho worgen is the wrong race for druids |
| 05:47.06 | ZorbaBeta | especially since Mastery will magically turn into a tanking stat |
| 05:47.16 | nevcairiel | a class that can shapeshift doesnt need a race that can shapeshift |
| 05:47.28 | ZorbaBeta | nev, yo dogg, I heard you liked shifting |
| 05:47.45 | msoul | does |
| 05:47.47 | ZorbaBeta | ha ha, get it, dogg. and worgen are wolves. it's funny because *shoots self in head* |
| 05:47.52 | nevcairiel | you wouldnt even see the nice worgen animations most if the time |
| 05:47.54 | unfo- | hmmmh... worgen racial running and then warrior's charge... i wanna see ^^ |
| 05:48.11 | ZorbaBeta | remember that resto druids aren't going to heal in tree form most of the time |
| 05:48.25 | unfo- | imma gonna make a worgen warrior and goblin mage as my last lvl 1 toons |
| 05:48.28 | nevcairiel | however, the alch mount will be awesome, and i'm going to get it on my druid. :) |
| 05:48.29 | ZorbaBeta | so it won't be completely wasted |
| 05:48.49 | unfo- | i don't get why they didn't make boomkin form a cd too |
| 05:48.53 | msoul | my lock "orc" would probably end up as a goblin |
| 05:48.57 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: that one feature is the biggest thing for me |
| 05:48.59 | msoul | sweet goblin mount |
| 05:49.18 | ZorbaBeta | my gf is an alchemist. I love the alchemy mount because of how many jokes it lets me make. I am never going to get tired of them. |
| 05:49.29 | msoul | hehe |
| 05:49.33 | nevcairiel | you can ride her in game now, eh |
| 05:49.33 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: there's an alchemy mount? |
| 05:49.42 | unfo- | Vial of something or the other |
| 05:49.46 | msoul | Jerub: where you been?! |
| 05:49.50 | nevcairiel | turns you into a dragon |
| 05:49.53 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, yeah, it turns you into a dragon. And it provides space for someone to ride you! |
| 05:49.53 | nevcairiel | and someone can ride on you |
| 05:49.54 | ZorbaBeta | :D |
| 05:50.16 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: omg awesome |
| 05:50.23 | msoul | Jerub: does sound gay saing it :P |
| 05:50.24 | Jerub | msoul: man, i barely pay attention. |
| 05:50.28 | msoul | "wanna ride me?!" |
| 05:50.49 | msoul | err |
| 05:50.51 | unfo- | ZorbaBeta, that's awesome :D |
| 05:51.11 | msoul | the does sound gay part meant without having your name infront :/ |
| 05:51.17 | msoul | stupid tap |
| 05:51.24 | Dagmar | If I've been informed correctly, it'll work like the X-53. So, if you wanna *drop* someone, you can. |
| 05:51.32 | msoul | I apologise for that |
| 05:51.32 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 05:51.49 | nevcairiel | How else would it work, once someone sits on you, you cant get rid of him? :P |
| 05:51.53 | Dagmar | THey're not going to say a single snotty thing about your drake form after you give 'em a nice 1,000 foot drop. |
| 05:52.00 | Jerub | Dagmar: punning will be an offense punishable by death |
| 05:52.04 | Jerub | :P |
| 05:52.08 | msoul | nevcairiel: dismount and use parchute if engi :P |
| 05:52.15 | nevcairiel | Thats were being druid coems in .. just cancel the mount |
| 05:52.19 | nevcairiel | and shapeshift into flying form |
| 05:52.30 | msoul | evul |
| 05:52.43 | Dagmar | This is assuming you weren't doing like most people while riding and sitting with their hands in their lap |
| 05:52.59 | Dagmar | I was hurt when they changed the sidecar dismount |
| 05:53.21 | msoul | macro it |
| 05:53.26 | Dagmar | Cuz I'd tease my guild leader into getting into the sidecar in Stormwind, and casually toss him into the canal |
| 05:53.30 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, the best part: my gf is a druid, who's used to being able to drop into flightform while falling |
| 05:53.35 | ZorbaBeta | unfortunately, she can't do that anymore |
| 05:53.40 | ZorbaBeta | meanwhile, I'm an engineer, and have a parachute cloak. |
| 05:53.45 | ZorbaBeta | if she drops me, the only one who'll die is her. |
| 05:53.47 | nevcairiel | why cant she do it anymore? |
| 05:53.54 | ZorbaBeta | nev, 3-second cast time on druid flight form. |
| 05:53.59 | unfo- | ZorbaBeta, can't do that? |
| 05:54.01 | Dagmar | I was sooo pleased with myself the first time I *actually remembered I had that cloak* in time |
| 05:54.03 | nevcairiel | where didyou get that? |
| 05:54.03 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: wait, what? |
| 05:54.04 | unfo- | oh shi-! |
| 05:54.08 | nevcairiel | in beta there is no cast time |
| 05:54.09 | Jerub | you can't shift to flightform in falling now? |
| 05:54.17 | ZorbaBeta | huh, you sure? I thought I read it, and she's pretty sure about it |
| 05:54.19 | ZorbaBeta | maybe we're both wrong |
| 05:54.26 | unfo- | my absolute favorite activity in wow: Base jumping with mah druid |
| 05:54.43 | nevcairiel | I'm sure |
| 05:54.50 | nevcairiel | I've been playing my druid on beta alot =p |
| 05:54.55 | Dagmar | I make sure to login during big holidays and snatch up one of those celebratory mugs |
| 05:55.03 | Mirrormn | I'm an engineer, but I've never used a parachute cloak enchant |
| 05:55.08 | Mirrormn | cause I'm a tailor too =S |
| 05:55.16 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, the cloak is a lot of fun in pvp. I was an accidental part of a three-man Arathi Basin mine paradrop once |
| 05:55.18 | unfo- | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=40120 |
| 05:55.18 | Dagmar | Parachute pants? ;) |
| 05:55.22 | msoul | Mirrormn: depends what class you play :P |
| 05:55.30 | unfo- | Instant it says |
| 05:55.34 | ZorbaBeta | we just all jumped off the cliff and parachuted down. the poor death knight at the bottom didn't really have a chance |
| 05:55.47 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: Well, between the cloak and *a second source of featherfall* you can pretty much glide to wherever you damn well please |
| 05:55.53 | msoul | Mirrormn: I use the parchute in WG "allies flies over after wg is done" dot away and parchute |
| 05:55.59 | ZorbaBeta | yeah if you've got that you're set |
| 05:56.06 | ZorbaBeta | as a warrior, the best I can do is charge someone before I hit the ground ;) |
| 05:56.09 | Dagmar | I'm ballsy enough to make course corrections |
| 05:56.29 | Mirrormn | If you EVER do anything like that again... |
| 05:56.41 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: all I hope for my war is to get arms spec shine again |
| 05:56.45 | Mirrormn | this crew might just have a brand new pair of PARACHUTE PAAAAAAYYYYYYYYNTS |
| 05:56.49 | ZorbaBeta | I've still never used Arms |
| 05:56.55 | ZorbaBeta | if I want to work, I go Prot. if I don't, I go Fury. |
| 05:57.13 | Dagmar | I want to try tanking and I want to try healing, so I'm rolling a druid next. |
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| 05:57.21 | Fisker | i'm pretty awesome |
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| 05:57.35 | msoul | Dagmar: play pala... specced my paladin as prot for fast dailies and retri as main |
| 05:57.37 | ZorbaBeta | druids are neat because they can do anything |
| 05:57.47 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: so is paladins |
| 05:57.48 | ZorbaBeta | the downside is that they don't have a huge number of buttons for anything |
| 05:57.53 | Dagmar | I can tank well enough but I suuck on the DK when it comes to catching runners |
| 05:58.07 | Dagmar | Someone'll take aggro on an add and I just won't see it |
| 05:58.13 | Mirrormn | (futurama quote) |
| 05:58.33 | msoul | Dagmar: ToT/MT depoends on the raid setup to give yuo a little boost |
| 05:58.37 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: listen to the screams :) |
| 05:58.42 | Dagmar | ...which really pisses me off. On the hunter I am way back so I can see everything. I really don't care for having a massive blind spot behind me |
| 05:58.59 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: Oh that I do on occasion. |
| 05:59.20 | Dagmar | I make no bones about telling people if they pull it, they tank it |
| 05:59.34 | Dagmar | Not necessarily on the adds tho |
| 05:59.46 | Dagmar | It's the jackass rogues who like to start early |
| 06:00.25 | Dagmar | Some tanks just run as fast as they can until the healer starts screaming at them to stop, I am not one of those tanks. |
| 06:01.32 | Dagmar | When people are being idiots, tanking is the hardest thing I've ever done in the game |
| 06:01.34 | msoul | Dagmar: chain pulls are awesome! |
| 06:02.01 | Dagmar | msoul: Yeah but until I'm sure of the healer, I way prefer to get them one at a time and once the mob is down, I just turn and look at the healer |
| 06:02.13 | msoul | true |
| 06:02.15 | ZorbaBeta | dagmar, my GF and I are planning to powerlevel 80-85 in dungeons. I tank, she heals. I've told her that my goal will be to make her swear at me but still not wipe. |
| 06:02.19 | Dagmar | I ain't doing a damn thing unless they're 100% and paying attention |
| 06:02.26 | ZorbaBeta | if she's not burning her cooldowns, we're not going fast enough! :D |
| 06:02.32 | Dagmar | ZorbaBeta: That actually pwns |
| 06:02.35 | Dagmar | 0 latency. |
| 06:02.38 | msoul | woehehehe |
| 06:02.56 | ZorbaBeta | we're going to set up her computer behind mine so we can play in the same room. it'll be awesome. |
| 06:03.11 | Dagmar | I can chain pull when Opheria is over on her healadin and I'm on my DK |
| 06:03.23 | nevcairiel | One thing i learned in the beta, dungeons don't give enough xp to power lvl, questing is way faster |
| 06:03.38 | ZorbaBeta | nev, problem is neither one of us enjoy questing for xp |
| 06:03.42 | Dagmar | That's pretty much the way it's always been |
| 06:03.49 | msoul | and should |
| 06:04.01 | ZorbaBeta | so we're going through dungeons because we think they're fun and we can get some really damn good players (pretty much the combined resources of Elitist Jerks and Goon Squad) |
| 06:04.06 | ZorbaBeta | which should speed things up quite a lot |
| 06:04.08 | Dagmar | Well, if it's anything like Northrend, we'll be exploring every nook and cranny in the process, and I intend to do that anyway |
| 06:04.18 | ZorbaBeta | I'll be doing that myself, but only after I hit 85. :) |
| 06:04.29 | Dagmar | I'll be doing it *to* hit 85. |
| 06:04.30 | msoul | ZorbaBeta: dungeons are good to lvl enchanting if you are! |
| 06:04.38 | ZorbaBeta | neither of us are, sadly |
| 06:04.43 | msoul | oh |
| 06:04.58 | msoul | did cost me ourhgly 6.7k maxed it recently |
| 06:04.59 | Fisker | ZorbaBeta |
| 06:05.05 | nevcairiel | hehe, anyway, have fun actually finding all the dungeons before you can go in there :D |
| 06:05.08 | Dagmar | We'll see if they've made it challenging enough that I can't actually go and just hit quests the moment I'm at the min level for them |
| 06:05.11 | msoul | engi was cheaper but mats to get jeeves was expensive |
| 06:05.24 | ZorbaBeta | nev, I'm assuming there'll be guides posted online |
| 06:05.27 | msoul | but still you made me feel bling bling again :P |
| 06:05.32 | ZorbaBeta | if not, guess we'll do some exploring :D |
| 06:05.36 | msoul | I thought I was the poorest guy with 17k |
| 06:05.36 | Dagmar | meh I still have to get Jeeves working |
| 06:05.38 | nevcairiel | probably are |
| 06:05.43 | nevcairiel | i could tell you where they are |
| 06:05.50 | Dagmar | I'm poorer, sort of. ~8.5k |
| 06:05.58 | nevcairiel | but for example vashj'ir, i dont think you can get to the dungeon without dying |
| 06:06.00 | msoul | Dagmar: first thing I did once I maxed engi few dfays back |
| 06:06.03 | nevcairiel | without having the breath buff |
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| 06:06.07 | Dagmar | I've just been too lazy to schlep gear lately |
| 06:06.09 | nevcairiel | (which you get from questing) |
| 06:06.09 | msoul | Dagmar: you got the recipe? |
| 06:06.17 | Dagmar | msoul: Yep. The day I was able to. |
| 06:06.19 | Fisker | ok then you are a jerk ZorbaBeta |
| 06:06.29 | Fisker | guess you didn't see that coming |
| 06:06.31 | msoul | Dagmar: ask someone to craft you the mats is what I did |
| 06:06.33 | Dagmar | I just went to the library and started kicking the crap out of gnomes. |
| 06:06.37 | msoul | didn't have the recipe from blackrock |
| 06:06.45 | msoul | fieldbot or whatever its called |
| 06:06.46 | Dagmar | I'm collecting the mats on the cheap now |
| 06:06.54 | Dagmar | I've been in there twice looking for it |
| 06:07.17 | Dagmar | Now that I have the remote, I suspect I'll be doing that several more times, just for completenesss |
| 06:07.23 | msoul | Dagmar: what I have in my bags are, jeeves, gnomish knife, "gnomish engineer", moll-e.. |
| 06:07.33 | msoul | can't remember what else |
| 06:07.48 | msoul | and that wormhole |
| 06:07.56 | Dagmar | I carry moll-e because I abuse the mailbox, and the Wormhole Generator |
| 06:08.11 | Dagmar | Of COURSE I always have the pocket knife, even on toons that wouldn't need it. |
| 06:08.14 | msoul | the fact I can access my bank every hour is sweet! with jeeves |
| 06:08.28 | msoul | so get it :) |
| 06:08.34 | Dagmar | I have the tournament bitch |
| 06:08.48 | ZorbaBeta | fisker, most likely |
| 06:09.03 | msoul | get the recipe from shadowmoon valley btw if you havent goit it yet |
| 06:09.07 | ZorbaBeta | nev, yeah, we might need to do a little questing for some dungeons. Hopefully it won't be too long. |
| 06:09.13 | Dagmar | Which recipe? |
| 06:09.15 | msoul | if you didn't get it yet more accuratly |
| 06:09.22 | msoul | that turbo flying let me get the name |
| 06:09.28 | ZorbaBeta | nev, will a warlock waterbreathing buff fix the problem, or do you actually need the official buff? |
| 06:09.36 | Dagmar | I have the flyer recipes |
| 06:09.41 | msoul | Dagmar: Turbo-Charged Flying Machine Control |
| 06:09.41 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 06:09.43 | msoul | that one |
| 06:09.47 | Dagmar | I just haven't bothered getting epic fliight |
| 06:10.01 | msoul | same... don't have the 280% |
| 06:10.13 | msoul | when I knew that it does require artisan I was bummed as I was farming the mats |
| 06:10.20 | msoul | khorium is my biggest pain |
| 06:10.41 | msoul | and I don't have gathering addon to be honest to know... so just fly around in netherstorm and see my luck with khorium and nagrand |
| 06:12.32 | Dagmar | <- DEHTA's worst nightmare |
| 06:13.35 | Dagmar | Leather's actually pretty fast money when you can sweep through somewhere with lots of animals with the only thing slowing you down is how long it takes to skin them |
| 06:14.29 | Dagmar | By now, those moose-elk should have become genetically predisposed to flee at the sight of me. |
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| 06:16.26 | msoul | Dagmar: there is a nice spot in sp than almost none would bother you |
| 06:16.43 | msoul | also you might gert lucky and see the rare mob there too |
| 06:16.52 | msoul | the big mechanical mob |
| 06:17.00 | msoul | can't remmeber his name |
| 06:17.10 | msoul | there I so farm borean learther |
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| 06:27.41 | Jamash | @Cairenn: Did they give reason? You have other MPQ utilities on the site. |
| 06:28.27 | Cairenn | No, they didn't, just a no |
| 06:28.28 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 06:29.31 | Jamash | oh well |
| 06:30.00 | Cairenn | Hopefully it'll encourage them to get their act together and get their own working asap |
| 06:30.03 | zenzio | what did I miss? |
| 06:36.19 | Fisker | Blizzard doesn't like Ladik? |
| 06:36.21 | Fisker | bam |
| 06:36.48 | Jamash | apparently |
| 06:36.57 | Fisker | it's actually pretty easy |
| 06:37.01 | Fisker | Don't give in |
| 06:37.07 | Fisker | lose FSP status |
| 06:37.08 | Fisker | ??? |
| 06:37.09 | Fisker | profit |
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| 06:39.04 | Fisker | also why QQ so much over it? WoWhead have been violating the ToS/EULA/Watever for years, and they pretty much do the same :o |
| 06:39.36 | unfo- | what are you talking about (re: mpq) ? |
| 06:40.03 | Jamash | I wrote a program using Ladik's MPQ library to do pretty much what the official AddOn Kit does, but for 4.x |
| 06:40.17 | Fisker | i don't know unfo- |
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| 06:40.44 | Fisker | that's just messed up then Jamash |
| 06:40.59 | Fisker | especially if they don't care about the mpq tools but only your addon kit adaptation |
| 06:41.03 | Jamash | I mean, anyone could use StormLib to do that |
| 06:41.12 | Jamash | or just download MPQ Editor |
| 06:41.19 | Jamash | all I did was automate the process |
| 06:42.30 | Jamash | I was going to just write a script for the MPQ Editor console but it doesn't seem to support operations on mpq patches yet |
| 06:42.37 | Jamash | at least I couldn't figure out how |
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| 06:44.14 | Jamash | blizzard has a very strange, even dissociative attitude towards copyright |
| 06:45.39 | zenzio | so was it your thing that got taken down? |
| 06:46.34 | Jamash | not so much taken down as denied approval to put up |
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| 06:46.50 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 06:47.11 | zenzio | pity, that souded useful |
| 06:48.20 | Jamash | I find it odd that they would give out beta keys specifically to addon authors, but then do this |
| 06:48.46 | Jamash | "We want you to write addons for the beta, but without looking at any of the beta lua or xml" |
| 06:49.01 | Jamash | "just, y'know, wing it" |
| 06:49.14 | Cairenn | I don't think they realized there was going to be a problem with the addon kit, lets not get completely ridiculous |
| 06:49.46 | zenzio | well, I agree with both of you |
| 06:49.50 | Jamash | I'd be happy to fix it for them if they gave me the source :3 |
| 06:50.39 | Jamash | anyway, it's not a big deal |
| 06:50.57 | Cairenn | just annoying |
| 06:51.01 | Jamash | yah |
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| 06:53.34 | msoul | felhunter is still better than imp for destro locks or depends |
| 06:53.52 | Dagmar | If everyone in your party is a mana user, you probably want him for the buff |
| 06:54.08 | Dagmar | ...otherwise it's imps all the way down |
| 06:54.08 | zenzio | gogo Jack Thompson: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=268288 |
| 06:54.34 | msoul | Dagmar: still hesitated about destro... all locks I meet/see plays either affli or demo |
| 06:55.09 | airtonix | use the force |
| 06:55.27 | msoul | hehe |
| 06:55.39 | Dagmar | Well, there's a large degree to which if you're rolling as destro, you shouldda prolly rolled a mage |
| 06:55.57 | airtonix | mages are not as cynical |
| 06:56.05 | Dagmar | This is true |
| 06:56.46 | Dagmar | They also can't soulstone themselves for fun and giggles in PvP |
| 06:57.04 | Jamash | I tried destro for the first time on beta |
| 06:57.06 | Jamash | it's pretty cool |
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| 07:03.06 | msoul | Dagmar: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&cn=Nafi |
| 07:03.11 | msoul | my latest alt |
| 07:03.31 | msoul | soon either rogue or druid |
| 07:04.00 | msoul | I enjoy having a rogue more than druids even though with druids would be a lot easy to roll whatever spec |
| 07:04.13 | Jamash | cat durid is fite |
| 07:04.37 | msoul | I prefer boomkin |
| 07:04.53 | msoul | hate boomkins in WG with high tanacity since horde are more in my realm |
| 07:05.02 | msoul | priest with 60k hp is silly |
| 07:05.04 | msoul | spriest |
| 07:05.19 | Jamash | starfall with tenacity is serious business |
| 07:05.22 | Dagmar | I think I took a few points in Affliction as Destro after looking at Recount |
| 07:05.27 | msoul | and a prot fighting spriest 1v1 is annoyingly stupid |
| 07:05.30 | Dagmar | er as Demo |
| 07:05.45 | Dagmar | I don't remember what to |
| 07:05.47 | Dagmar | er tho |
| 07:06.05 | msoul | Dagmar: you pvp a lot? |
| 07:06.17 | msoul | cause affli with demo talents mainly for pvp iirc |
| 07:06.21 | msoul | I could be wrong |
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| 07:06.37 | Dagmar | http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skywall&cn=Bremslicht&gn=Paws+for+Concern |
| 07:06.40 | msoul | by the way, I had to mix my gear pvp/pve to get high GS |
| 07:06.43 | Dagmar | I only PvP in order to whore honor points. |
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| 07:06.53 | msoul | without it you can't even get into a heroic to do specific ach I kid you not |
| 07:07.00 | msoul | Dagmar: ah I see |
| 07:07.10 | Dagmar | WHen you're getting spellpower from stamina, as far as both I and the calculator are concerned, PvP gear works just fine for PvE |
| 07:07.21 | msoul | Dagmar: if you're farming gems soon ti'll be gone. you won't be able to buy them with hionor points :) |
| 07:07.21 | Dagmar | It's definitely worth filling in the non T9 slots |
| 07:07.34 | Dagmar | I don't farm gems, I just buy them cut |
| 07:07.35 | msoul | Dagmar: what calculator? |
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| 07:08.00 | Dagmar | Rawr. Or any calculator for that matter. |
| 07:08.05 | msoul | Dagmar: on my realm GS talk |
| 07:08.20 | Dagmar | They come out to the same result |
| 07:08.24 | msoul | never used rawr as there is no rawr for macs :) |
| 07:08.28 | msoul | as far as I know! |
| 07:08.33 | cbreak_work | it works in VMWare |
| 07:08.34 | Dagmar | There were two pieces I definitely got from honor points to fill in the blanks when I was gearing up |
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| 07:08.46 | cbreak_work | there's a new one that uses this microsoft java/flash imitation |
| 07:08.50 | cbreak_work | which apparently exists for OS X |
| 07:08.53 | cbreak_work | never tried it |
| 07:08.54 | Dagmar | Yeah, 3.0 uses Silverlight |
| 07:09.09 | Dagmar | In THEORY it should "just run" because of Mono |
| 07:09.17 | msoul | hrm |
| 07:09.19 | Dagmar | ...but good ol' Microsoft with their whole extend thing |
| 07:09.22 | cbreak_work | I didn't get mono to run on os x |
| 07:09.37 | cbreak_work | not really tried though :) |
| 07:10.05 | msoul | I just read forums and Ej to know what stat I should be looking after etc |
| 07:10.12 | Jamash | embrace extend extinguish |
| 07:10.23 | Dagmar | Rawr just gives you a list to ogle |
| 07:10.34 | cbreak_work | it's an NP complete problem similar to the backpack packing problem |
| 07:11.26 | msoul | I'm hesitated to craft the legs for the lock |
| 07:11.44 | msoul | have saved frost emblems on the warrior |
| 07:11.48 | msoul | 300 frosties |
| 07:11.52 | msoul | 150 on dk |
| 07:12.02 | msoul | and 85 on pala |
| 07:12.09 | msoul | 46 or so on lock |
| 07:12.22 | msoul | getting the helmet for the pala hopefully today |
| 07:12.33 | msoul | the warrior didn't gear fury yet |
| 07:13.13 | msoul | sold primordial saronite back then when it did cost something 2k :P |
| 07:13.22 | msoul | dk frosties |
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| 07:13.35 | msoul | last I check it cost 280g |
| 07:14.40 | msoul | I don't know if I missed it |
| 07:14.45 | msoul | what's your char name Dagmar |
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| 07:16.02 | Fisker | starts his andrew ryan speech regarding addon kits |
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| 07:30.10 | Jamash | hee |
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| 08:06.17 | zenzio | how can people turn "Sylvanas" into "Sylvanis" :( |
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| 08:09.32 | Mirrormn | it's an ancient druidic ritual which involves the sacrifice of many Forsaken |
| 08:16.05 | Mikk | humm where does the dev guilds hang again? |
| 08:16.25 | Mikk | beta i mean |
| 08:18.46 | Elkano | eu or us? |
| 08:18.54 | Mikk | either - i seem to have both EU and US servers listed |
| 08:19.25 | Elkano | well, there are only three servers, right? |
| 08:19.32 | Mikk | i have four listed |
| 08:19.49 | Elkano | hmm... but one PvE for each US and EU, right? |
| 08:19.52 | Mikk | US: Broxigar (pvp) Anasterian (pve) |
| 08:20.01 | Mikk | EU: Naralex (pvp) Brill (pve) |
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| 08:20.13 | Elkano | well, it should be one on each PvE |
| 08:20.33 | Jamash | they wiped beta guilds again |
| 08:20.43 | Mikk | oh yay |
| 08:21.15 | Mikk | having said that, it doesn't seem to actually let me connect to any server at all |
| 08:21.20 | Mikk | woop. |
| 08:22.46 | Mikk | eh sod knows.. it lets me select between WoW1 and WoW2 when i log on |
| 08:23.11 | Mikk | And I have 2 WoW1 and 2 WoW2 |
| 08:23.16 | Mikk | wtb renaming |
| 08:23.21 | Caleb| | you pasted PTR servers Mikk |
| 08:23.29 | Mikk | oooh |
| 08:23.32 | Mikk | that'd explain a thing or two |
| 08:23.43 | Mikk | yeah i selected the other account now and got 3 servers |
| 08:24.00 | Mikk | yaa there we go |
| 08:25.18 | zenzio | "Or maybe Mal'ganis has been masquerading as Tirion all along, and really did help kill the LK. Those dreadlords are masters of disguise, and you can still find old Tirion hanging out in the plaguelands...." - I think he's joking, but I would find it wicked if that had been the case |
| 08:25.33 | Jamash | ohohohoho |
| 08:25.42 | industrial | http://twolumps.net/d/20101006.html |
| 08:25.43 | industrial | <3 2L |
| 08:25.50 | industrial | Cairenn: ^ |
| 08:26.35 | Mikk | I HATE THE NEW LOADING SCREEN |
| 08:26.37 | Mikk | where's the boobs |
| 08:26.42 | zenzio | industrial: lol |
| 08:28.47 | jnwhiteh | I'm on PTR brill |
| 08:28.48 | Mirrormn | you could replace the loading screen graphic |
| 08:28.51 | jnwhiteh | anyone able to make a raid with me? |
| 08:28.59 | Mirrormn | warden might get mad at you though =/ |
| 08:34.53 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 08:34.56 | jnwhiteh | if I'm in a raid |
| 08:35.00 | jnwhiteh | in the default UI |
| 08:35.07 | jnwhiteh | is there a way to show my party frames |
| 08:35.10 | jnwhiteh | and not the raid frames? |
| 08:36.33 | Mirrormn | on beta? |
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| 08:41.34 | Fisker | only the other way around i believe jnwhiteh |
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| 08:45.49 | jnwhiteh | Anyone able to sign into PTR/Brill for me? |
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| 08:49.18 | Fisker | when i get home in 5 hours |
| 08:49.19 | Fisker | :P |
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| 09:09.25 | jnwhiteh | is anyone familiar with the new party frames? |
| 09:15.10 | industrial | http://www.slate.com/id/2269951/ |
| 09:15.14 | industrial | lol @ last sentence :) |
| 09:16.05 | Humbedooh | ^^ |
| 09:17.26 | industrial | also |
| 09:17.28 | industrial | WHAT WHAT |
| 09:17.36 | industrial | mikma: ^ |
| 09:18.29 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 09:25.23 | unfo- | industrial, lol. @ last sentence |
| 09:25.27 | unfo- | industrial, also ty for link |
| 09:26.33 | industrial | imagines scores of menu posting that link to their GF's going 'SEE HONEY?!' |
| 09:26.41 | industrial | s/menu/men/ |
| 09:27.25 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:29.03 | Humbedooh | s/men/lesbians with strap-ons/ |
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| 09:31.37 | industrial | Whatever floats your boat :p |
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| 09:43.38 | Mirrormn | the human senses are: sight, taste, sound, small, touch, pressure, itch, thermoception, propioception, tension sensors, eqilibrioception, stretch receptors, chemoreceptors, thirst, hunger, and magnetoception |
| 09:44.54 | Humbedooh | among others :) |
| 09:44.57 | Mirrormn | and epic loot receptors |
| 09:45.05 | krka | small? |
| 09:45.10 | Humbedooh | emoception? |
| 09:45.55 | krka | is the fatigue-detector a sense? |
| 09:46.02 | krka | should be similar to thirst and hunger i guess |
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| 09:59.06 | Mirrormn | from what I gather, this is saying that it only counts as a "sense" if there is a physical group of cells in the body whose job is to sense that sensation |
| 09:59.11 | Mirrormn | which I find sensational |
| 09:59.51 | Mirrormn | so either fatigue is more a feeling than a sense, or they just forgot to include it |
| 10:00.01 | Mirrormn | it's not exactly a comprehensive scientific article |
| 10:00.47 | amro | that's just silly, a lot of those senses are related |
| 10:01.02 | amro | you can't be able to sense pressure but not pressure |
| 10:01.06 | amro | oh wow that was bad |
| 10:01.11 | amro | touch but not pressure* |
| 10:01.16 | Mirrormn | touch/pressure |
| 10:01.31 | amro | and strretch and tension to that |
| 10:01.31 | Mirrormn | yeah I dunno, like I said, it's just a shiny infographic, not a published article or anything |
| 10:01.34 | airtonix | pressure is touch |
| 10:01.37 | amro | and hunger and thirst are internal |
| 10:01.48 | airtonix | so is your face |
| 10:01.50 | amro | else you'd add headaches and every form of pain |
| 10:02.22 | Mirrormn | but the heading seems to imply that each of those senses has a separate and specific physical structure which aids in its... sensitude |
| 10:03.12 | amro | experimental proof or it didn't happen |
| 10:05.05 | Mirrormn | well wikeepeedeea group touch/itch/pressure together |
| 10:05.31 | Mirrormn | but, it lists pain as separate |
| 10:05.56 | Mirrormn | as well as temperature |
| 10:09.40 | Mirrormn | hunger results from hormones sent from the hypothalamus to the liver, so it sounds like that probably counts as a separate sense |
| 10:10.04 | foxlit | double-checks the channel name |
| 10:10.07 | Mirrormn | in that it is "felt" by receptor cells in the liver |
| 10:10.40 | Mirrormn | oh, I'm so sorry to interrupt all your important conversation, foxlit :P |
| 10:11.18 | foxlit | It could be the case that I stumbled into the wrong place or something. |
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| 10:11.39 | foxlit | Carry on :) |
| 10:11.41 | Mirrormn | I desperately need to go to bed anyway |
| 10:11.43 | Mirrormn | so NO |
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| 10:19.13 | Napoleone | 1 week till a superstable internet conn... i hope lol. |
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| 10:46.23 | sioraiocht | mikma: which town in Finland do you live in? |
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| 11:37.32 | Xinhuan | is zg removed in 4.0.1? |
| 11:37.54 | zenzio | from what I hear, it's gone as a raid, but part of the world as a quest area |
| 11:38.08 | zenzio | I'm not in the beta, so I may be getting the details wrong |
| 11:39.31 | Xinhuan | i only want to know if the raid instance is gone in 4.0.1 :/ |
| 11:39.43 | zenzio | oh, sorry - I read that wrong |
| 11:40.01 | zenzio | don't know about that, but someone in here should be on the PTR |
| 11:42.38 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm hoping hehe |
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| 11:58.49 | nevcairiel | considerung the world only changes with 4.0.3 "The Shattering", it would make sense that the raid stays until then |
| 11:59.49 | nevcairiel | but in the end, it doesnt matter |
| 11:59.55 | nevcairiel | don't have the moutns yet, too bad :p |
| 11:59.56 | unfo- | shattering is pre-event or actual cata? |
| 12:00.10 | nevcairiel | a week before cata |
| 12:00.25 | unfo- | ok |
| 12:00.46 | unfo- | so i have till the end of Nov to finish my Explorer for my rogue and in the same time gather a scrapbook of old azerothian sights |
| 12:01.50 | Xinhuan | i want to continue farming zg mounts |
| 12:01.52 | Xinhuan | so it kinda matters |
| 12:02.59 | nevcairiel | It doesn't matter |
| 12:03.05 | nevcairiel | Either the instance is still there, or it isn't |
| 12:03.11 | nevcairiel | nothing you can do now to change anything |
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| 12:05.03 | mitch0 | nev: is there an option in BT to react on keydown instead of keypress? |
| 12:05.28 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:05.54 | mitch0 | would it be super hard to add? |
| 12:06.19 | mitch0 | (or hack locally in case you don't want to bother with it) |
| 12:06.59 | nevcairiel | just change the AnyUp to AnyDown in the ActionButton.lua |
| 12:07.23 | foxlit | likes the action-on-keyup behavior |
| 12:07.37 | mitch0 | foxlit: why? |
| 12:07.48 | jnwhiteh | people are _convinced_ it makes them faster if its down |
| 12:07.56 | mitch0 | nev: thanks, will take a look. guess making it configurable isn't easy, right? |
| 12:08.05 | foxlit | Allows you to reconsider your course of action. |
| 12:08.24 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: sometimes I do lag with keyup... |
| 12:08.39 | jnwhiteh | that statement makes no sense |
| 12:08.42 | mitch0 | (not talking about raid dps or such, more like that insta heal in pvp) |
| 12:08.58 | jnwhiteh | of course the heal triggers very slightly later |
| 12:09.01 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: I press the button, but don't release it fast enough |
| 12:09.06 | jnwhiteh | sure |
| 12:09.16 | jnwhiteh | and having it set to down helps you out there |
| 12:09.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm making it an option in Clique |
| 12:09.23 | jnwhiteh | as its been for a bit now |
| 12:09.26 | jnwhiteh | its a simple change |
| 12:09.27 | mitch0 | good |
| 12:09.29 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 12:09.40 | jnwhiteh | but it will probably be off by default |
| 12:09.45 | nevcairiel | Last time i tried it, it caused actions to be cast when drag'n'dropping stuff |
| 12:09.55 | nevcairiel | which is highly annoying |
| 12:09.57 | mitch0 | speaking of that, do I understand it right that I can hover over unitframe and press R for rejuv, for example? |
| 12:10.13 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: yep.; |
| 12:10.20 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: yeah I don't have to deal wiht that luckily |
| 12:10.20 | cbreak_work | you can do that since years |
| 12:10.26 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: you can do alt-shift-R |
| 12:10.30 | jnwhiteh | any modifiers you'd like |
| 12:10.37 | jnwhiteh | and in the future I'll be able to support keys as modifiers |
| 12:10.41 | jnwhiteh | so you can do shift-r-leftbutton |
| 12:10.42 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 12:10.45 | mitch0 | nev: could it be done so that it's AnyUp if not locked, and AnyUp/AnyDown (per config) if locked? |
| 12:10.48 | cbreak_work | just bind an action bar button to a macro that rejuvenates what you mouse over |
| 12:10.57 | jnwhiteh | cbreak_work: thats a global binding |
| 12:10.59 | jnwhiteh | so that's a terrible idea. |
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| 12:11.08 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 12:11.08 | Xinhuan | jnwhiteh, do u know if there's anyway to wrap action buttons created in combat by the default ui? |
| 12:11.14 | mitch0 | cbreak: I've done that ;) |
| 12:11.18 | jnwhiteh | this is not a global binding, its only active over the frame |
| 12:11.18 | cbreak_work | you don't like globals? |
| 12:11.30 | jnwhiteh | I like being abel to use my 'b' key to open my bags |
| 12:11.32 | jnwhiteh | and cast spells |
| 12:11.37 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: the default ui creates buttons in combat? |
| 12:11.37 | jnwhiteh | and now we can do that. |
| 12:11.42 | cbreak_work | with a global binding it works over the world frame too |
| 12:11.42 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: no, I don't think so. |
| 12:11.49 | Xinhuan | yeah nev, it creates the spellflyout buttons on demand |
| 12:11.50 | jnwhiteh | cbreak_work: yes, I have no interest in that |
| 12:11.53 | jnwhiteh | and you can obviously still do that |
| 12:11.56 | nevcairiel | oh those damn things |
| 12:11.59 | jnwhiteh | but its still a global binding |
| 12:12.04 | jnwhiteh | which means you're inherently limited with what you can do |
| 12:12.08 | jnwhiteh | there are no such limitations when using Clique. |
| 12:12.09 | Xinhuan | so if there's already 4 created, and a mage needs 7, it adds another 3 |
| 12:12.23 | cbreak_work | rather, you're limited in what you can not do :) |
| 12:12.32 | Xinhuan | atm, i am forced to hook the function to set a flag to check for going-out-of-combat to wrap those new buttons |
| 12:12.57 | jnwhiteh | I'm cryign when thinking about handling that |
| 12:13.02 | jnwhiteh | but somehow it seems to work so far |
| 12:13.14 | Xinhuan | as in the method i described? |
| 12:13.17 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: cant you just create .. well. enoguh? :P |
| 12:13.26 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: well, if you have the header |
| 12:13.29 | jnwhiteh | you can GetChildren |
| 12:13.32 | jnwhiteh | in secure code |
| 12:13.34 | jnwhiteh | and do whatever you need to do |
| 12:13.42 | jnwhiteh | the trick is finding a way to trigger that scan |
| 12:13.52 | nevcairiel | If blizzard were to use a proper header |
| 12:13.56 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 12:13.57 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 12:14.05 | Xinhuan | it just inherits directly from secure action button |
| 12:14.08 | jnwhiteh | I have not looked at the CompactRaidFrames yet. |
| 12:14.20 | jnwhiteh | well a frame ref is all you need |
| 12:14.25 | jnwhiteh | and you can set that outside of comabt |
| 12:14.46 | Xinhuan | the frame has the chance of being created in combat |
| 12:14.54 | jnwhiteh | what frame are we talking about? |
| 12:15.00 | Xinhuan | spellflyout buttons |
| 12:15.02 | nevcairiel | You can only frameref protected frames, i think |
| 12:15.18 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: if they're SAB's then they are protected =) |
| 12:15.31 | Xinhuan | they didn't used to be SABed |
| 12:15.36 | Xinhuan | until i asked iriel to get them to be |
| 12:15.51 | Xinhuan | so they were quite unprotected until the last patch |
| 12:15.55 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 12:16.00 | jnwhiteh | and it caused lots of issues |
| 12:16.24 | jnwhiteh | FlowContainer? |
| 12:16.25 | jnwhiteh | wtf =) |
| 12:16.54 | nevcairiel | I'm still waiting for the next ptr and beta push to see if the fixes to the bugs i reported to alestane made it in |
| 12:17.41 | jnwhiteh | is the reservation system in the new CRF just a frame pool? |
| 12:17.41 | nevcairiel | I hope it makes it into 4.0.1 and i dont have to wait for 4.0.3 |
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| 12:21.07 | jnwhiteh | I've asked for some things for 4.1 |
| 12:21.13 | jnwhiteh | whenever it freaking happens =( |
| 12:21.18 | jnwhiteh | hopefully they happen. |
| 12:21.26 | jnwhiteh | will make clique registration much nicer |
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| 12:23.58 | foxlit | The equivalent of _G in restricted envs? |
| 12:24.42 | jnwhiteh | I would like to be able to set global frame references, that's one =) |
| 12:24.56 | jnwhiteh | I'd also like to be able to run WrapScript() from a snippet |
| 12:25.32 | jnwhiteh | that gets me 90% of what I need |
| 12:25.45 | Xinhuan | yah i can't do that |
| 12:25.49 | jnwhiteh | also, I'd like frame handles to not be scrubbed from RunAttribute, or allow RunAttributeFor |
| 12:25.54 | Xinhuan | so i can't wrap any spellflyout buttons while they are created in combat |
| 12:26.50 | Xinhuan | if you could wrap and unwrap scripts in combat though, it might be possible to code in unintended behaviors |
| 12:27.22 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan: how so? |
| 12:27.35 | jnwhiteh | That's why I brought it up, I'd like to think about any potential attack vectors |
| 12:27.52 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure yet, but i know its potentially dangerous |
| 12:27.58 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: RunAttributeFor is easy to emulate |
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| 12:28.14 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: by setting a frame ref and then retrieving it |
| 12:28.19 | jnwhiteh | which is precisely what I'm doing right now =) |
| 12:28.24 | jnwhiteh | that's not necessary :P |
| 12:28.25 | nevcairiel | RunFor(frame, GetAttribute(meh)) |
| 12:28.28 | nevcairiel | works fine for me |
| 12:28.32 | jnwhiteh | not if its a framehandle |
| 12:28.35 | jnwhiteh | or a frame |
| 12:28.37 | jnwhiteh | they get scrubbed. |
| 12:29.04 | jnwhiteh | I really need to be able to pass a frameref as an argument to RunAttribute() |
| 12:29.07 | jnwhiteh | that's what it was I wanted :P |
| 12:29.28 | nevcairiel | but RunAttribute is just a shortcut to Run(GetAttribute(...)) |
| 12:29.43 | jnwhiteh | irrelevant |
| 12:29.49 | jnwhiteh | I need to be able to pass an argument to it. |
| 12:30.10 | jnwhiteh | I need to be able to run myHeader:RunAttribute("register", myFrame) |
| 12:30.43 | nevcairiel | But RunAttributeFor isnt required for that, its just another shortcut =) |
| 12:30.56 | jnwhiteh | hence why I altered what I was asking for =) |
| 12:31.03 | jnwhiteh | sorry for the imprecision |
| 12:31.17 | nevcairiel | But i would use that function too |
| 12:31.25 | nevcairiel | i have some RunFor with GetAttribute in it |
| 12:31.47 | nevcairiel | (honestly, who cascades text snippets into each other) |
| 12:32.08 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 12:32.17 | nevcairiel | I dont think i use one Run or RunFor without retrieving the code from an attribute |
| 12:32.18 | jnwhiteh | Clique's new code is a bit bizarre |
| 12:32.21 | jnwhiteh | and heavy |
| 12:32.21 | jnwhiteh | but alas |
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| 12:32.37 | nevcairiel | for action buttons i like the restricted env system |
| 12:32.43 | nevcairiel | its way better then the BC system |
| 12:32.57 | nevcairiel | (short of the bugs and limitations that are not required to limit the env..) |
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| 12:33.33 | jnwhiteh | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/271703/ for example |
| 12:34.20 | nevcairiel | code generation ftw |
| 12:34.20 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 12:34.21 | jnwhiteh | no choice in this case |
| 12:34.26 | jnwhiteh | i'd kill myself first |
| 12:34.55 | nevcairiel | I only use generated code to feed big tables into the secure env |
| 12:35.47 | nevcairiel | They could really add a function to scrub a table and re-build it for the secure env |
| 12:35.50 | nevcairiel | but well |
| 12:35.51 | nevcairiel | it works :p |
| 12:41.45 | cbreak_work | they lack trust. |
| 12:41.50 | cbreak_work | they lack faith |
| 12:42.56 | cbreak_work | instead of making it impossible to violate the security boundaries, maybe it would be much easier to just accept violations |
| 12:43.02 | cbreak_work | and detect them (similar to taint) |
| 12:43.08 | cbreak_work | and just stop the UI when it happens |
| 12:45.37 | jnwhiteh | that sounds like a terrible idea. |
| 12:47.07 | nevcairiel | sounds like a blacklist idea, which is always worse then whitelisting functionality |
| 12:47.26 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/14713276670/rofl-lol-boomkin-cata-pvp/ |
| 12:47.28 | jnwhiteh | any 'stopping' of the UI would be bad |
| 12:48.02 | jnwhiteh | Its realy a @*##ing joke what happens here, first the make you happy whit spells that looks good then the nerfd the spells so @*##ing hard so it will works never!!! |
| 12:48.04 | jnwhiteh | awesome. |
| 12:48.20 | krka | O_o |
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| 12:48.24 | nevcairiel | that guy is batshit insane |
| 12:48.32 | nevcairiel | moonkin is much more fun to play now then it ever was |
| 12:48.57 | Lopeppeppy | I like that description. Batshit insane. |
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| 12:49.28 | Kraps | Online Communities 2 http://xkcd.com/802/ |
| 12:49.42 | krka | is batshit (guana) known to induce insanity? |
| 12:50.23 | unfo- | krka, i would say you can deduce insanity from certain activities (eating of) relating to guana |
| 12:50.31 | nevcairiel | It'll certainly not make you saner |
| 12:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | It sure can't taste good... |
| 12:54.02 | cbreak_work | no, not a blacklist |
| 12:54.18 | cbreak_work | it would be like taint |
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| 12:54.39 | cbreak_work | taint does not prevent you from hooking certain functions |
| 12:54.46 | cbreak_work | but the functions won't work anymore if you do |
| 12:55.47 | industrial | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/10/06/0238218/US-Military-Orders-Less-Dependence-On-Fossil-Fuel?from=rss <-- "Fossil fuel is the No. 1 thing we import to Afghanistan," says Ray Mabus, the Navy secretary <--- yeah, from Iraq I bet... |
| 12:56.06 | jnwhiteh | cbreak_work: that's just not how the user interface works |
| 12:56.08 | jnwhiteh | *shruG* |
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| 12:59.33 | Fisker | anyone know when they'll announce revue today? |
| 13:00.46 | foxlit | nevcairiel: note that he's complaining about pvp |
| 13:00.54 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5656727/starcraft-ii-becomes-survival-horror-in-this-incredible-mod |
| 13:00.55 | foxlit | They're /all/ insane :) |
| 13:02.26 | nevcairiel | true |
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| 13:02.45 | nevcairiel | Its a PvE game, people just dont realize that :p |
| 13:02.57 | MoonWitch | How I missed you guys on my desktop |
| 13:03.04 | MoonWitch | hugs the whole room |
| 13:03.35 | industrial | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/06/1235235/Chrome-OS-Arrives-On-the-iPad---No-Seriously?from=rss |
| 13:03.38 | industrial | http://ostatic.com/blog/chrome-os-arrives-on-the-ipad-no-seriously |
| 13:03.45 | industrial | http://www.padgadget.com/2010/10/01/hacked-ipad-runs-google-chrome-os/ |
| 13:03.55 | industrial | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4tyG4upFns |
| 13:04.02 | industrial | SERIOUSLY internets, stop making money on traffic |
| 13:04.03 | industrial | fuckers |
| 13:04.16 | industrial | post the link directly on slashdot -> win ? |
| 13:05.42 | nevcairiel | its just common curtosy to link the source where you got your info from instead of their source |
| 13:06.06 | industrial | I think it common courtesy not to copy over crap and make money off of it yourself. It's called blog spam. |
| 13:06.20 | nevcairiel | everyone knows thats slashdot is just spam |
| 13:06.27 | nevcairiel | they dont have any own content |
| 13:06.38 | nevcairiel | why do you go there :p |
| 13:06.43 | stew-a | i always wanted an ipad purely to use as a wireless monitor to something with the processing power to work on |
| 13:08.52 | industrial | also, I'd appreciate to find jus the source. the guy talking about what he did. If I can't find that then I'll have to assume aswell that the first blog poster that took this youtube video also just did that and wrote about it just to make money off of it (or he thought its cool whatever, I'll go with the money option cause I'm a pessimist like that). |
| 13:09.36 | MoonWitch | Indy, go with the money option, not for pessimistic reasons, but because human nature is that way :) |
| 13:11.00 | industrial | MoonWitch: yes, that's what I mean by pessimistic. |
| 13:11.06 | MoonWitch | ah.. |
| 13:11.12 | MoonWitch | I stand corrected then :) |
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| 13:12.25 | MoonWitch | anyhow, back to getting my boxes unpacked lol |
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| 13:14.25 | jnwhiteh | Yay, Clique works with Razr Naga |
| 13:14.27 | jnwhiteh | fucking finally |
| 13:14.37 | MoonWitch | nice |
| 13:14.38 | m^rk | anyone know where i can find info on secure group header changes, specifically initialConfigFunction changes in cata? it seems they want this to be a string now instead of a function?? |
| 13:14.48 | MoonWitch | I don't have a naga, but very nice. :) |
| 13:15.59 | jnwhiteh | m^rk: yes, its a secure snippet now instead of a fucntion. |
| 13:16.09 | jnwhiteh | m^rk: that's really it |
| 13:18.16 | m^rk | thanks.. I'll have to find info for snippets because I haven't learned about them yet.. they aren't new in cata are they? |
| 13:18.25 | jnwhiteh | no, they were new in 3.0 |
| 13:18.31 | jnwhiteh | they're basically strings of Lua code |
| 13:18.46 | jnwhiteh | you can do quite a lot within the snippets that you just couldn't do any other way, so it's a good change =) |
| 13:18.52 | jnwhiteh | what addon is this for? |
| 13:19.03 | m^rk | Healium |
| 13:19.51 | jnwhiteh | ah cool |
| 13:19.57 | jnwhiteh | there were changes to Clique as a result of this in Cataclysm |
| 13:20.02 | jnwhiteh | if you woudln't mind updating that |
| 13:20.28 | jnwhiteh | m^rk: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=208175#post208175 is the new way it needs to be done |
| 13:21.23 | m^rk | cool thanks a lot.. you are really helpful |
| 13:21.31 | MoonWitch | jnwhiteh: I was just reading through it, it sounds horrible -- it's almost as if blizzard hated you there :( |
| 13:21.35 | jnwhiteh | I'm here if you have any questions, or you can post on the forums =) |
| 13:21.48 | jnwhiteh | MoonWitch: I was just collateral damage |
| 13:22.00 | jnwhiteh | the problem is because Clique is a general purpose click-casting addon |
| 13:22.21 | jnwhiteh | if you control both your unit frames and your click-casting its much easier to deal with. |
| 13:22.28 | MoonWitch | true |
| 13:22.47 | MoonWitch | if I am honest, I am so used to Clique, I can't even heal without it anymore lol |
| 13:22.53 | nevcairiel | Maybe you should define some global interface to use, so other clickcasting addons have a chance without providing a "Clique.header" variable :p |
| 13:23.08 | MoonWitch | is a Disc priest, click-casting is better than sliced bread. |
| 13:23.17 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I was goign to do that, but there aren't any other click-casting addons anymore |
| 13:23.24 | jnwhiteh | no other addon implements the ClickCastFrames interface |
| 13:23.29 | jnwhiteh | which I painstakingly came up with in 2.0 |
| 13:23.33 | jnwhiteh | so I dropped all illusion of that in this version |
| 13:23.39 | nevcairiel | i thought click2cast did, but maybe it died sometime along the way |
| 13:23.43 | jnwhiteh | it did |
| 13:23.52 | jnwhiteh | plus, with the group headers, you have no choice but to require an optdep on teh addon doign the click-casting |
| 13:23.59 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: your topic is called "HOWO: Intergrate your addon with Clique" |
| 13:24.03 | jnwhiteh | it could easily be ClickCastHeader |
| 13:24.06 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: awesome, thanks =) |
| 13:24.07 | foxlit | one of the typos is mine, the other is yours :) |
| 13:24.17 | haste | jnwhiteh: mikma mentioned that hours ago :P |
| 13:24.33 | jnwhiteh | haste: mikma says lots of words, hard to tell which ones are actually real |
| 13:25.09 | MoonWitch | oh yes haste, I haven't a clue how you did it -- but without ANY changes, my layout worked fine in Cata with the cata version of oUF |
| 13:25.15 | MoonWitch | so I thank you |
| 13:25.29 | nevcairiel | that can't be true |
| 13:25.36 | nevcairiel | his own layouts dont even work |
| 13:25.41 | haste | you will have to make some changes MoonWitch |
| 13:25.48 | haste | for headers to work 100% |
| 13:25.59 | haste | if you haven't made any they'll break in combat |
| 13:25.59 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 13:26.06 | MoonWitch | well I've not tested headers :P |
| 13:26.10 | jnwhiteh | I could make the header be similar code to what I already have for ClickCastFrames |
| 13:26.17 | haste | ordinary units should be close to 1.4.x |
| 13:26.24 | nevcairiel | well ok, my player and target frame worked just fine as well :D |
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| 13:26.39 | nevcairiel | group had to be fixed |
| 13:26.55 | haste | I haven't finalized the headers yet, which is why I haven't pushed any layout changes public |
| 13:27.04 | haste | and the fact that it's 50% broken :D |
| 13:27.27 | Lopeppeppy | That does also mean it's 50% functional, which is a good start. |
| 13:27.34 | MoonWitch | well I am curious to see :) |
| 13:27.41 | haste | ordinary usage is broken |
| 13:27.45 | haste | but separation usage works :P |
| 13:27.50 | MoonWitch | damnit, I think I broke my spacebar when I used the compressor to blow out the keyboard :( |
| 13:27.52 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i love you |
| 13:27.55 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 13:28.04 | mikma | haste: what did i say hours ago? |
| 13:28.16 | haste | mikma: typo in jnwhiteh topic |
| 13:28.21 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: I'd have to reqiure unit frame authors to put in a bunch of bootstrap code in order to generalize the header version of it further. |
| 13:28.26 | mikma | haste: ah :P |
| 13:28.50 | mikma | haste: yeah, jnwhiteh ignores me usually |
| 13:28.51 | jnwhiteh | so back to OptionalDep we go |
| 13:29.14 | mikma | opt is quite opt |
| 13:29.32 | haste | your current solution isn't exactly painful jnwhiteh |
| 13:29.43 | jnwhiteh | but its not general and requires the Dep |
| 13:29.46 | haste | !ClassColor for example is much more painful :P |
| 13:29.47 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: i had to create a freaking xml template just to make clique happy! |
| 13:29.56 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: _NOTHING_ that can be done about that |
| 13:29.57 | mikma | jnwhiteh: if i were you and you were me, i'd stab blizzard in the eye |
| 13:30.03 | jnwhiteh | blame the changes to the group header, plain and simple |
| 13:30.11 | jnwhiteh | your frame NEEDS to know to call mine from the initialConfigFunction |
| 13:30.13 | MoonWitch | for once I agree with mikma .... |
| 13:30.25 | haste | jnwhiteh: nevcairiel is teasing! oUF already creates the template :P |
| 13:30.28 | jnwhiteh | and it needs to set it up so I can wrap the OnEnter and OnLeave |
| 13:30.35 | nevcairiel | haste: wut, this is not for oUF |
| 13:30.37 | mikma | moonwitch: you are just requesting a kuvaton.com link, aren't you |
| 13:30.38 | jnwhiteh | give me a way to do that without this, and I'll happily use it =) |
| 13:30.42 | haste | wut nevcairiel ! |
| 13:30.44 | nevcairiel | haste: one thing though, rename the template to something less generic |
| 13:30.46 | MoonWitch | yes I am mikma |
| 13:30.54 | nevcairiel | now if multiple addons come along doing this |
| 13:30.58 | nevcairiel | it might get bumpy |
| 13:31.11 | haste | I thought the XML just ignored it? |
| 13:31.13 | mikma | moonwitch: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/i_have_phd.jpg |
| 13:31.19 | nevcairiel | haste: yes, which isnt good =P |
| 13:31.25 | nevcairiel | who knows what they did in their template |
| 13:31.31 | haste | :P |
| 13:31.33 | MoonWitch | prove it mikma ;) |
| 13:31.39 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: if I get wrapscript in snippets, the template goes away |
| 13:31.43 | jnwhiteh | I dont have a choice before 4.1 tho |
| 13:31.44 | mikma | moonwitch: it was for you! |
| 13:31.47 | haste | I'll change it when I get home |
| 13:32.00 | haste | have "some" other stuff to do as well :P |
| 13:32.08 | nevcairiel | i hope its oUF related |
| 13:32.22 | nevcairiel | or i'll get Fisker to troll you all day |
| 13:32.28 | haste | oUF and vorbis! |
| 13:32.34 | haste | those are my weekly projects :P |
| 13:33.16 | haste | but afk! |
| 13:34.02 | MoonWitch | back to work :) |
| 13:34.46 | nevcairiel | lua> false == nil |
| 13:34.46 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: false |
| 13:35.20 | Humbedooh | lua> false > nil |
| 13:35.20 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: luabot:1: attempt to compare nil with boolean |
| 13:35.26 | Humbedooh | pft |
| 13:36.06 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: topic/post title are distinct in whatever forum wowi is using |
| 13:36.14 | foxlit | Your post is now HOWTO, but the topic is still HOWO |
| 13:36.29 | nevcairiel | thats quite annoying in many forums |
| 13:36.43 | Humbedooh | lua> (not nil) == (not false) |
| 13:36.43 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 13:36.51 | Humbedooh | aha! you contradicted yourself! |
| 13:37.48 | Gagorian | Not really you know... |
| 13:37.51 | nevcairiel | type casting nil to boolean just makes it false |
| 13:38.09 | Humbedooh | well not in all cases apparently ;< |
| 13:38.16 | Humbedooh | and I just wanted to nitpick! |
| 13:38.23 | nevcairiel | it doesnt implictly cast on comparison |
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| 13:38.26 | nevcairiel | its not php, you know |
| 13:39.17 | Humbedooh | so == isn't a comparison? ;\ |
| 13:39.38 | nevcairiel | it is, but you cast it by using not |
| 13:40.00 | Humbedooh | mkay I'll think of another way to prove my point then ;< |
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| 13:41.56 | Humbedooh | grumbles |
| 13:42.29 | krka | what is your point exactly? |
| 13:43.21 | Humbedooh | I'll let you know as soon as I know myself |
| 13:43.58 | stew-a | what were blizz smoking the day they spawned thorium in un'goro? 2 laps around that place and i hoovered up 139 ore, and thats not counting whatever was in the couple of veins i couldn't get to. also i haven't set foot inoutland apart from shattrath and my mining is 345 thanks to all that thorium |
| 13:44.00 | mikma | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/error.htm?ref=nf |
| 13:45.44 | zenzio | stew-a: back in vanilla you had to fight to get any ore there |
| 13:46.33 | stew-a | ah, big pvp place i guess |
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| 13:48.01 | Humbedooh | lua> nevcairiel == nil |
| 13:48.01 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 13:48.09 | Humbedooh | 'nuf said |
| 13:48.38 | nevcairiel | lua> "nevcairiel" > "Humbedooh" |
| 13:48.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: true |
| 13:48.41 | nevcairiel | 'nuf said |
| 13:48.46 | Lopeppeppy | No, it was one of the highest level areas. And devilsaurs ate your face a lot. |
| 13:48.48 | Humbedooh | lua> nevcairiel == trannie |
| 13:48.48 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 13:48.49 | airtonix | kek |
| 13:49.02 | airtonix | pwnt |
| 13:49.15 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles Cairenn some. |
| 13:49.24 | airtonix | #5 |
| 13:52.36 | jnwhiteh | jy7r8Uud |
| 13:52.54 | Ackis | hacks jnwhiteh's accounts |
| 13:52.58 | jnwhiteh | word! |
| 13:52.59 | cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:53.09 | Humbedooh | hacks Ackis |
| 13:53.19 | Ackis | hugs himself |
| 13:53.28 | Ackis | I'm inhackable |
| 13:53.37 | Humbedooh | and unhuggable? |
| 13:53.47 | Ackis | oh I'm huggable |
| 13:54.21 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: thanks =) |
| 13:54.22 | Humbedooh | lua> Ackis == huggable |
| 13:54.22 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 13:54.25 | Humbedooh | kk |
| 13:54.52 | nevcairiel | hm, was there any easy way to get the spell id of a spell by name? |
| 13:55.13 | krka | wowhead? |
| 13:55.18 | Ackis | do a for loop of all spell IDs and stop once you get the name |
| 13:55.20 | nevcairiel | in game <.< |
| 13:55.32 | nevcairiel | Ackis: not viable :p |
| 13:55.44 | Ackis | are you doing this in an addon or just need it a few times? |
| 13:55.47 | nevcairiel | addon |
| 13:55.48 | Humbedooh | how would you get a spell name without a spell ID? |
| 13:55.58 | nevcairiel | from GetShapeshiftFormInfo |
| 13:56.37 | Humbedooh | isn't that just hrm... 20 or such at most? |
| 13:56.47 | nevcairiel | But i dont want to have to maintain a damn list |
| 13:57.09 | krka | GetSpellInfo("name") |
| 13:57.20 | nevcairiel | krka: and where is the id now? |
| 13:57.24 | krka | hmmm |
| 13:57.26 | krka | good point! |
| 13:57.31 | krka | i assumed it would be there :( |
| 13:57.45 | Humbedooh | GetSpellLink? :\ |
| 13:57.48 | krka | GetSpellLink? |
| 13:57.49 | krka | damn |
| 13:57.52 | krka | (and parse it) |
| 13:57.57 | nevcairiel | yeah, i suppose i could use that and parse the id out of it |
| 13:58.01 | nevcairiel | was hoping for something cooler =( |
| 13:58.14 | krka | doesn't get much cooler |
| 13:58.22 | Humbedooh | GetÃberSpellLink? |
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| 14:18.32 | jnwhiteh | yw |
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| 14:25.57 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 14:26.06 | Xinhuan | talk about being psychic |
| 14:26.18 | Ackis | or speaking of the devil |
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| 14:37.08 | Sixen | kd3 is here? o/ |
| 14:37.20 | Cide | I hope so because I have his blizzcon ticket |
| 14:37.46 | Sixen | Oh nice :P |
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| 14:44.20 | Ackis | interesting, you can pay $20 for a team of two people to play with/against bungie employees and the $20 goes to breast cancer research |
| 14:45.31 | zenzelezz | "I've learned that in Windows Vista, the most heavily tested game was World of Warcraft": http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/10/06/10071954.aspx |
| 14:46.41 | airtonix | ... |
| 14:49.04 | Jamash | nevcairiel: FindSpellBookSlotBySpellID(select(2,GetSpellBookItemInfo("Swift Flight Form"))) |
| 14:49.18 | Fisker | so basically they're playing at work, and you're paying $20 for breast cancer research |
| 14:49.22 | Fisker | not sure how interesting that i |
| 14:49.22 | Fisker | is |
| 14:49.26 | Fisker | other than being a nice scam |
| 14:49.50 | nevcairiel | ah, GetSpellBookItemInfo works on spell names too |
| 14:49.51 | nevcairiel | thats nice |
| 14:49.54 | Jamash | yep |
| 14:50.13 | Jamash | did you want the spellbookID or the globalspellID? |
| 14:50.23 | nevcairiel | the normal spell id |
| 14:50.39 | nevcairiel | but i scrubed the idea anyway, didnt work too well due to other reasons |
| 14:50.45 | Jamash | oh, ok |
| 14:50.45 | Fisker | zenzelezz is that why there were so many issues with WoW when Vista came out then? ;3 |
| 14:50.50 | nevcairiel | but good to know how to get it ;) |
| 14:51.33 | Jamash | I think by "heavily tested" they mean "heavily played at work instead of working" |
| 14:51.49 | nevcairiel | nah, that cant be right |
| 14:51.55 | nevcairiel | no-one in their sane mind used vista for work pcs |
| 14:52.17 | Jamash | microsoft employees != people in their sane mind |
| 14:52.40 | Humbedooh | coughs |
| 14:52.47 | Jamash | You should get that looked at. |
| 14:52.48 | Humbedooh | I used to work for Microsoft :> |
| 14:52.50 | Fisker | who says they had a choice anyway? |
| 14:53.01 | nevcairiel | Humbedooh: proof right there |
| 14:53.05 | Fisker | well |
| 14:53.07 | Humbedooh | true, true |
| 14:53.08 | Jamash | so did my dad, and you don't see me calling him sane |
| 14:53.09 | Fisker | i didn't work for Microsoft |
| 14:53.32 | nevcairiel | just because people working at microsoft are not sane doesnt imply that everyone is |
| 14:53.45 | nevcairiel | everyone else* |
| 14:53.53 | Fisker | it does if i can stop it |
| 14:54.25 | Jamash | All men are mortal; Socrates is mortal; â´ All men are Socrates |
| 14:54.45 | nevcairiel | thats so cool |
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| 14:55.24 | Jamash | ~wiki Science Made Stupid |
| 14:56.11 | Jamash | holy crap there's a pdf? GET |
| 14:56.46 | Jamash | every student should read that book |
| 14:57.16 | Jamash | it's the Look Around You of dead tree artifacts |
| 14:58.34 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: want an easy way to do the 10k points challenge for today in Reach? |
| 14:58.47 | Arrowmaster | whats the challange |
| 14:59.12 | Ackis | you need to get 10k points in heroic or higher w/o getting killed |
| 14:59.58 | Ackis | load up the flying mission, rally point alpha on legendary, turn on at least 5 skulls and you'll get it in 2 minutes killing the banshees |
| 15:00.19 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 15:00.32 | Ackis | 2k creds easy :D |
| 15:02.01 | Arrowmaster | the space or the city flying mission? |
| 15:02.23 | Ackis | space |
| 15:02.42 | Ackis | you should get the 10k points before the first wave of banshees are killed |
| 15:04.04 | Shirik | so um |
| 15:04.11 | Shirik | brb. |
| 15:04.14 | Ackis | k |
| 15:04.18 | Ackis | u back yet? |
| 15:05.58 | Fisker | so um Shirik |
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| 15:07.51 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1255427205 |
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| 15:10.34 | Shirik | ok back |
| 15:10.37 | Shirik | so what was I saying |
| 15:10.46 | Shirik | omg I had something epic to say and then I got distracted by professor |
| 15:11.19 | Shirik | so not fair |
| 15:11.26 | Cide | you bought minecraft? |
| 15:11.31 | Shirik | no |
| 15:11.32 | Shirik | hell no |
| 15:11.39 | Cide | oh |
| 15:12.46 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 15:12.47 | Shirik | oh Ackis did I tell you about my infinite loop? |
| 15:12.49 | Fisker | why are you a bad person? |
| 15:12.59 | Shirik | totally not what I was going to say but infinite loop = win |
| 15:13.13 | Ackis | Shirik: in the TCG? |
| 15:13.15 | Shirik | yes |
| 15:13.26 | Ackis | no you didn't but I saw you talking about it |
| 15:15.29 | Ackis | all cards are unique basically |
| 15:15.32 | Shirik | so much of my priest deck plays with things like "When a unique card enters play ________", e.g., "your hero may deal 1 damage to target ally" |
| 15:15.36 | Ackis | didn't quite understand your set up to get that |
| 15:15.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:16.07 | Shirik | http://wowtcgdb.com/carddetail.aspx?id=3334 |
| 15:16.40 | TC-Work | damit Shirik, stop talking about it, you are going to get me to start playing. and i dont need antoher addiction |
| 15:16.44 | Shirik | There's another card (I don't remember its name) but it goes "When [this card] enters play, you may search your graveyard for a card named [this card] and put it into play" |
| 15:16.46 | TC-Work | another* |
| 15:17.00 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 15:17.04 | Fisker | will you help me understand? |
| 15:17.20 | Ackis | ahh ok I missed that last card Shirik |
| 15:17.27 | Shirik | So I play copy 1, then copy 2. This creates a uniqueness violation which sends copy 1 to the GY. Then I play copy 3, which creates a uniqueness violation sending copy 2 to the graveyard and I pull out copy 1 into play. |
| 15:17.39 | Shirik | This causes another uniqueness violation which allows me to pull 2 as I destroy 3 |
| 15:17.41 | Shirik | and so on |
| 15:18.03 | Shirik | all the while I'm decking myself because one of my cards is "When a unique card enters play, draw a card" |
| 15:18.08 | Shirik | that's the part I'm most worried about :) |
| 15:18.33 | Shirik | Though that's not as bad as what happened to me once |
| 15:18.46 | Shirik | "Put all cards from the graveyard into play" |
| 15:18.49 | Shirik | someone played this |
| 15:18.50 | Ackis | a buddy of mine plays an onyxia deck |
| 15:18.55 | Shirik | Which instantly decked me |
| 15:18.59 | TC-Work | *sigh* i hate steam, i dont even like left4dead and i am tempted to buy it |
| 15:19.02 | Ackis | lol |
| 15:19.11 | Jamash | haw haw |
| 15:19.16 | Jamash | I got L4D for free |
| 15:19.25 | Ackis | you know the card lady prestor that says when she comes into play do the onyxia raid Shirik? |
| 15:19.28 | Shirik | L4D? Isn't that incredibly old? |
| 15:19.30 | TC-Work | it's both for ~$10 |
| 15:19.34 | TC-Work | 1 and 2 |
| 15:19.34 | Shirik | I know Ackis that card is awesome |
| 15:19.36 | Jamash | worth it imo |
| 15:19.39 | Shirik | It has its own section in the rulebook |
| 15:19.42 | Shirik | that's how awesome it is |
| 15:19.50 | Ackis | yup |
| 15:19.55 | Ackis | buddy has a deck built around it |
| 15:19.55 | TC-Work | Jamash: except for the part where i dont like it.... |
| 15:19.59 | Shirik | really? |
| 15:20.02 | Shirik | I didn't even think that was possible |
| 15:20.02 | Ackis | he beat the #1 Canada guy with it |
| 15:20.16 | TC-Work | Ackis: thats not saying much |
| 15:20.17 | Shirik | nice |
| 15:20.19 | Jamash | well, then just download the demo and don't play it |
| 15:20.30 | Ackis | Shirik: the card is basically an instant win scenario |
| 15:20.37 | Jamash | tcgs are fail |
| 15:21.07 | Jamash | I mean, fail for the end user, not the company with the license to print money |
| 15:21.11 | TC-Work | they would not be if your cards because useless avery 2 years |
| 15:21.11 | Shirik | My friend tried to play this item that says "At the beginning of your turn, destroy target hero" against me |
| 15:21.15 | Shirik | which is basically "win" |
| 15:21.19 | Fisker | Shirik won't tell me |
| 15:21.32 | TC-Work | err...not useless |
| 15:21.35 | Ackis | Shirik: almost, there's some good counters... that's adal or xiri or something isn't it? |
| 15:21.47 | Shirik | my counter was twofold |
| 15:21.51 | Jamash | so, once Portal 2 is released, what do we have yet to accomplish as a species? |
| 15:21.58 | Shirik | first off, my master hero says "All unique cards are untargetable" |
| 15:22.09 | Shirik | I also have that card "All cards everywhere are unique" |
| 15:22.10 | Ackis | yeah you told me about that one |
| 15:22.14 | Shirik | sorry not all unique cards, only mine |
| 15:22.15 | Ackis | he had to destroy himself |
| 15:22.17 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:22.20 | Jamash | pro |
| 15:22.45 | Shirik | also TC-Work, nothing wrong with getting into it |
| 15:22.45 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: 21047 points from the first wave |
| 15:22.55 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: see? easy as pie |
| 15:22.57 | Shirik | and Worlds are classic iirc, so you can play worlds with 5 year old cards |
| 15:23.45 | Shirik | I really wish I knew what I was going to talk about |
| 15:23.49 | Shirik | bahhhh |
| 15:24.21 | Jamash | hmm, Hack seems slightly broken in 4.x |
| 15:24.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:25.04 | m^rk | did they really deprecate backdrop in cata? some of my frames will not show up and they all have backdrops so I'm assuming this is likely the problem? |
| 15:25.32 | zenzelezz | m^rk: did you remove the backdrop from one and it showed up? |
| 15:26.09 | foxlit | I was under the impression that it would not be removed. |
| 15:26.12 | nevcairiel | its deprecated, but not removed |
| 15:26.31 | zenzelezz | deprecated in favour of what? |
| 15:26.38 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 15:26.41 | nevcairiel | manually creating it |
| 15:26.54 | m^rk | well I'm not sure these frames will show anything if I remove the backdrop |
| 15:27.01 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: a normal texture? |
| 15:27.08 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 15:27.16 | zenzelezz | see, that would've been the answer to my first question then |
| 15:27.23 | TC-Work | Shirik: except the cost |
| 15:27.24 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure why they deprecated it, it was kidna handy |
| 15:27.40 | m^rk | its actaully showing and hiding because my header is showing and hiding but the rest of the frame which I all use backdrop for is all invisible or something |
| 15:28.06 | Shirik | TC-Work: True |
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| 15:30.01 | Angayelle | hai people, just a quick question how would you do to have a text flashing in a frame ? |
| 15:30.15 | Angayelle | red yellow red yellow and so on |
| 15:30.21 | Jamash | change its font color on a timer |
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| 15:31.53 | Angayelle | using which command, sorry for the pestering ? |
| 15:33.15 | Jamash | amg brewfest is over |
| 15:33.56 | stew-a | did blizz ever say why they never bothered with a new mug this year? |
| 15:34.29 | zenzelezz | I think they said they didn't see a need for a new one |
| 15:34.45 | stew-a | despite the fact that for the last 3 years they've had a new mug unique to each year? |
| 15:35.00 | stew-a | and that the achievement for last year's says "vintage 2009" |
| 15:36.15 | Xinhuan | they were lazy and didn't want to reskin it ;p |
| 15:36.19 | Angayelle | they ran out of colour for the mug, prolly |
| 15:36.21 | Xinhuan | and then have ppl complain about bag space |
| 15:36.22 | stew-a | s'not really complicated, 4 new items, 2 new quests, 1 new icon and a tweak to the keg scripts |
| 15:36.30 | Angayelle | or had a big stock of green paint |
| 15:36.56 | nevcairiel | people actually keep all mugs? |
| 15:37.00 | Angayelle | ofc |
| 15:37.07 | stew-a | i've got blue, yellow green :P |
| 15:37.08 | nevcairiel | I'm happy with the FoS and then dump it |
| 15:37.17 | Angayelle | i even have a macro for hotswapping mid fight |
| 15:37.52 | stew-a | along with a stack of christmas stuff, a whole bag full of halloween wands, clothing from every holiday in the year that makes clothing all tucked away in my bank :P |
| 15:38.04 | stew-a | hmm, its actually time to get the haloween wands out and start selling them again |
| 15:38.14 | nevcairiel | i have a christmas outfit, because its so hot on my nelf :p |
| 15:40.00 | stew-a | people pay like 10-20g a shot for wands during early october (or have in previous years at least) |
| 15:40.35 | nevcairiel | silly people, surely |
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| 15:40.55 | stew-a | the backbone of the wow economy, nev :P |
| 15:41.12 | stew-a | (silly people, i mean) |
| 15:41.25 | nevcairiel | but why pay for something that you get for free a week later |
| 15:41.26 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 15:41.32 | Angayelle | back to my timer stuff, it looks like i could use an OnUpdate function with a set interval but i already have one in my lua, wouldn't it mess it ? |
| 15:41.37 | stew-a | because you're getting it a week early? |
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| 15:46.24 | Motig | it seems when I log on the cataclysm realm my escape button stops working until I restart windows o_O |
| 15:47.07 | zenzelezz | it's a sort of metaphor |
| 15:47.12 | zenzelezz | your can't escape the cataclysm |
| 15:48.13 | Motig | well I would like to escape it! |
| 15:48.22 | Motig | perhaps standby will hlep |
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| 15:50.08 | Motig | bah it didn't |
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| 15:59.28 | jnwhiteh | if a C program specifies 'unsigned' as the type |
| 15:59.33 | jnwhiteh | what is assumed/ |
| 15:59.41 | foxlit | int |
| 15:59.45 | Humbedooh | int I'd guess |
| 16:00.01 | jnwhiteh | thanks,. |
| 16:00.10 | Fisker | unsigned boolean |
| 16:00.12 | Humbedooh | could be unsigned char ofc |
| 16:00.13 | amro | huh? unsigned is a valid type? |
| 16:00.15 | foxlit | same as "long" is actually "long int" |
| 16:00.24 | zenzelezz | amro: in C, yes |
| 16:00.31 | jnwhiteh | makes sense, thanks. |
| 16:00.39 | Ackis | "I'm sorry your feelings were hurt by my comments. No, wait. I'm not. Gay kids are dying. So let's try to keep things in perspective: fuck your feelings." <-- WIN |
| 16:00.41 | amro | why do I get the feeling that C is designed to let you make mistakes |
| 16:00.44 | Ackis | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/10/01/sl-letter-of-the-day-sorry-nothing-fun |
| 16:00.48 | Fisker | slog? |
| 16:00.51 | Fisker | fuck you Ackis |
| 16:01.33 | zenzelezz | amro: C was basically designed to let you write UNIX |
| 16:01.42 | zenzelezz | so I guess you're right |
| 16:01.43 | Xinhuan | C always defaults to "int" if the numeric type isn't specified |
| 16:01.52 | Xinhuan | this is also true for return types |
| 16:02.26 | amro | I guess they weren't big on compile-time safety back then |
| 16:02.43 | Xinhuan | oh they add warnings now |
| 16:02.48 | Xinhuan | most compilers that is |
| 16:02.51 | Xinhuan | if not specified |
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| 16:03.09 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:03.30 | Humbedooh | waits for Fisker to type masturbation |
| 16:03.31 | amro | I use -Werror |
| 16:05.02 | Fisker | why would i type masturbation when i can just do it Humbedooh ? |
| 16:05.13 | Humbedooh | true, true |
| 16:08.02 | Lunessa | I love arriving to work with several core systems down. And by love I really mean hate. |
| 16:08.30 | amro | Lunessa: beats having systems go down as you're about to go home |
| 16:08.42 | Lunessa | amro: True. |
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| 16:10.19 | Fisker | core systems down? |
| 16:10.39 | durcyn | sounds like you need better core systems, Lunessa |
| 16:11.11 | Lunessa | Seems we had a significant hardware failure. *sigh* |
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| 16:12.15 | Jamash | stop using the hardware to cook hot pockets, imo |
| 16:13.12 | Humbedooh | mmm hot pockets |
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| 16:19.53 | Lunessa | hot pockets - icy cold exterior filled with liquid hot magma |
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| 16:20.50 | TMc51 | Ah, so a meaty version of a jawbreaker tossed in the microwave. |
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| 16:21.47 | Ackis | headline: South Africa thrash Canada in men's hockey -> http://www.calcuttanews.net/story/693817 :'( |
| 16:22.00 | TMc51 | Unpossible! |
| 16:25.18 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/802/ - this is actually kind of cool. |
| 16:26.38 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/06/funny-pictures-which-part-is-missing/ |
| 16:30.20 | durcyn | Lunessa: the digg lifeboats were a nice touch. |
| 16:30.37 | Lunessa | The alt text rules |
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| 16:42.02 | industrial | haha google is so smart |
| 16:42.37 | industrial | you just type in 'pound' and it recognizes this retarded measurement and instantly gives you the weight of one in grams |
| 16:43.49 | zenzelezz | hasn't it done that for many units for a while now? |
| 16:44.20 | industrial | really? before I had to do '1 pound in grams' |
| 16:44.31 | industrial | or, that's just how I did it. |
| 16:44.32 | industrial | hmmmm. |
| 16:44.55 | industrial | I'm so smart, I've optimized my algorithm of certain google lookups! |
| 16:45.00 | industrial | back in the cave |
| 16:45.11 | TMc51 | I always found that typing in '1 x to y' gave the conversion immediately. |
| 16:45.35 | zenzelezz | it's done that for quite a while, yes |
| 16:45.48 | zenzelezz | but right now we were talking about simply typing pound, inch, foot, etc. |
| 16:45.56 | industrial | yeah but now you type in 'pound' and google says 'oh you dont want that silly, here! 450some grams!' |
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| 16:46.29 | TMc51 | hmm, maybe i should try using google agin. been a while |
| 16:46.33 | Humbedooh | pfft, not 450! |
| 16:46.52 | zenzelezz | TMc51: what do you use? |
| 16:47.01 | industrial | he remembers urls |
| 16:47.03 | TMc51 | bing |
| 16:47.06 | industrial | (ah, the good old days) |
| 16:47.25 | industrial | I can't even be arsed to learn some API's anymore :P |
| 16:47.32 | TMc51 | aol, i mean, its still 1995, isnt it? |
| 16:48.55 | Ackis | Kinectimals is going to have different LE's depending on which store you buy from :( |
| 16:49.11 | haste | duckduckgo is the new shit |
| 16:49.22 | zenzelezz | what now? |
| 16:49.35 | haste | http://duckduckgo.com/ |
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| 16:56.53 | nevcairiel | its the new-search-engine time of the year? |
| 16:57.33 | TMc51 | http://www.chacha.com/ best search evar |
| 17:00.48 | nicoli_s | TMc51:that looks like a phishing site |
| 17:00.51 | nicoli_s | weird layout |
| 17:01.00 | TMc51 | nah, it's a search |
| 17:01.06 | TMc51 | you have other people searxch for you |
| 17:01.17 | TMc51 | troll heaven, pretty much. |
| 17:01.18 | nevcairiel | Its one of those stupid question pages |
| 17:01.18 | nicoli_s | oh i know, im just saying it looks weird |
| 17:01.51 | TMc51 | used to look more professional a year or so ago |
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| 17:09.52 | Shirik | Cide |
| 17:09.55 | Shirik | Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide |
| 17:10.11 | Shirik | Let's say I have an array of strings and I want to find the index into that array at which an object is |
| 17:10.34 | Shirik | can I do that easily? |
| 17:10.38 | Shirik | (i.e., without a loop) |
| 17:11.02 | Torhal | Use magic, Shirik. |
| 17:11.25 | Humbedooh | also, what language? ;p |
| 17:11.34 | Humbedooh | if it's lolcode, I can't help :\ |
| 17:11.59 | Shirik | python |
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| 17:12.44 | Humbedooh | so, you wanna iterate over some thingy array and...I don't see the problem :( |
| 17:13.35 | Shirik | I want one line of code that does the same thing as a loop |
| 17:13.54 | Yssaril_android | Is there a way to find out the buff a spell causes without using the spell? |
| 17:14.16 | Humbedooh | for moo in cow: print moo ? |
| 17:15.23 | Humbedooh | you want a reverse indexing thingy then? |
| 17:15.48 | Humbedooh | like fx stuff[4] = "moo", then you'd want something that'd to the opposite, like stuff["moo"] = 4 ? |
| 17:16.22 | Torhal | Yssaril_android: Nein. |
| 17:16.35 | Seerah | for k,v in pairs(stuff) do if v == "moo" then return k end end |
| 17:16.50 | Humbedooh | ~lart Seerah |
| 17:16.50 | purl | grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats Seerah until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with |
| 17:17.08 | Seerah | ? |
| 17:17.19 | TC-Work | you have nuts? |
| 17:17.32 | Torhal | Seerah: Not only is that an actual loop, which Shirik mysteriously thinks there's a way to avoid, but that's Lua and not Python. |
| 17:17.49 | Shirik | Torhal: I just think it should be a builtin in python |
| 17:17.52 | Seerah | :) |
| 17:17.59 | Seerah | I just sat down and didn't read :) |
| 17:18.03 | Torhal | Shirik: Like table access in Lua? |
| 17:18.15 | Shirik | not exactly |
| 17:18.22 | Humbedooh | couldn't you just make two arrays? |
| 17:18.28 | Shirik | my problem is I have sys.argv and I know an option is in there |
| 17:18.32 | Shirik | but it's an option that takes a parameter |
| 17:18.36 | Shirik | so I need the argument AFTER that |
| 17:18.54 | Shirik | so I want to do something like sys.argv[sys.argv.indexOf("-d") + 1] |
| 17:19.33 | Humbedooh | but you don't wanna code anything yourself? ;< |
| 17:19.52 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Python should have telepathy included. |
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| 17:21.13 | Humbedooh | sys.argv.index("moo")? |
| 17:21.36 | amro | Shirik: sys.argv.index("-d")+1 |
| 17:21.40 | amro | and screw you humbedooh. |
| 17:21.47 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:21.49 | Torhal | Haha |
| 17:21.52 | Humbedooh | http://effbot.org/zone/python-list.htm ;> |
| 17:22.00 | amro | ValueError is thrown if the object is not in the list |
| 17:22.08 | Shirik | I know it's in there |
| 17:22.33 | Humbedooh | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+find+index+in+array |
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| 17:23.21 | amro | [18:13] <Shirik> I want one line of code that does the same thing as a loop <- you can use map(), list comprehensions, and so on |
| 17:24.14 | Humbedooh | it all depends on what he defines by "one line of code" though |
| 17:25.08 | Kaso | Someone on SA forums has posted that in 4.0 the naming of arguments is important for at least SetScript functions, that doesn't really make sense to me with how i know lua works, can anyone confirm/deny this? http://pastey.net/141246 |
| 17:25.43 | m^rk | there any way to get addonkit to extract from cata rather than release? |
| 17:26.43 | Ackis | so there's an initiative here at work called the "Provincial Stroke Strategy" and everytime I see the name I giggle to myself |
| 17:26.49 | Ackis | wishes he'd grow up one day. |
| 17:26.58 | Humbedooh | seems like load of b/s, kaso :) |
| 17:27.39 | Kaso | does to me too, i wonder if he's made some other error and mistaken it for a change in how lua behaves |
| 17:27.49 | amro | SA forums? |
| 17:28.08 | Kaso | somethingawful |
| 17:28.12 | amro | it's likely he's calling the function through another and forgot about it |
| 17:28.13 | Torhal | Kaso: That's complete bullshit. |
| 17:28.18 | zenzelezz | I thought nothing was reliable from SA |
| 17:28.21 | amro | why would SA have anything useful >< |
| 17:28.21 | Kandoko | m^rk: there's a MPQ extractor http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34469 |
| 17:28.55 | Humbedooh | thinks someone totally misinterpreted the deprecation of 'this' and blew it into a pile of steaming hot turd |
| 17:28.57 | Kaso | zenzelezz, theres some smart addon developers there, but clearly not everyone is ;p |
| 17:28.58 | amro | argument names are local and there's no way to screw around with them when calling a function |
| 17:29.11 | Fisker | basiok sucks |
| 17:29.27 | Kaso | yeah that's my understanding, hell the c api just does arguments by the order things are on the stack |
| 17:29.47 | amro | that's how lua does it as well |
| 17:30.10 | zenzelezz | oh, you didn't hear? In the lastest build, they moved from lua to Objective-C |
| 17:30.16 | Kaso | lol |
| 17:30.20 | Humbedooh | >_> |
| 17:30.34 | Humbedooh | ~stab zenzelezz |
| 17:30.34 | purl | ACTION runs at zenzelezz with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:30.35 | Kaso | damn objc messages >< |
| 17:31.47 | Fisker | man |
| 17:31.50 | Fisker | if only i had an US account |
| 17:31.53 | Fisker | so i could derp at Bashiok |
| 17:31.54 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27026328826/so-why-after-all-the-seperation-of-of-10-amp-25 |
| 17:32.45 | nevcairiel | Why, he is just telling the truth |
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| 17:33.14 | Fisker | there's a difference |
| 17:33.16 | Fisker | loot is shared |
| 17:33.19 | Fisker | valor points are not |
| 17:33.42 | Ackis | but the loot isn't shared |
| 17:33.44 | Fisker | So the whole quality/quantity debate is irrelevant as it is dealt to each player in the raid |
| 17:34.28 | nevcairiel | They always said loot quantity will be different |
| 17:34.37 | Fisker | valor points isn't loot |
| 17:34.44 | Humbedooh | Kaso: I think I see the error :> |
| 17:34.47 | nevcairiel | back then it was still emblems |
| 17:34.56 | nevcairiel | which then got converted to points |
| 17:34.59 | Fisker | and it's still not loot |
| 17:34.59 | Kaso | what is it Humbedooh ? |
| 17:35.07 | Fisker | Even if they are items it is not loot |
| 17:35.10 | Humbedooh | he expects (self, ElapsedTime) to be what's passed on an event call |
| 17:35.17 | Zhinjio | and now for your daily dose of nonsense: http://bit.ly/cae9wv |
| 17:35.29 | Fisker | The reason why the item loot was different was due to the extra players needing extra loot(And then a small bonus for the logistics part of it) |
| 17:35.34 | Fisker | This is not a point with valor points |
| 17:35.46 | Fisker | therefor they have no reason to increase the amount of valor points in 25-man |
| 17:35.51 | Humbedooh | and since that ain't it, it falls back to some variable he declared in a larger scope because he's a retard at declaring vars |
| 17:36.00 | nevcairiel | Fisker: lookup the defeinition of loot |
| 17:36.21 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I'm a bit confused, the loot is the same (aka item xyz) but 25 man would get 2, 10 man would get 1? |
| 17:36.24 | Humbedooh | but in 4.0 his crappy code stopped working because of the powers that be decided to smite him |
| 17:36.36 | Fisker | i don't give a shit about the definition nevcairiel |
| 17:36.41 | Fisker | the reasoning behind it is flawed |
| 17:36.41 | Fisker | eod. |
| 17:36.57 | nevcairiel | Even if you don't call it loot, in the original announcement they said that 25 will drop more emblems |
| 17:37.04 | zenzelezz | we should abandon the concept of loot, and move on to the concept of booty |
| 17:37.07 | Kaso | hmm, possibly |
| 17:37.14 | Humbedooh | or just rum |
| 17:37.26 | Humbedooh | [Your share of the rum is 23 cases!] |
| 17:37.27 | haste | time to rob the booty bank? |
| 17:37.40 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: i prefer ninja's |
| 17:37.55 | TMc51 | pirates > ninjas |
| 17:37.56 | zenzelezz | your share of the ninjas is 23? |
| 17:38.04 | Fisker | maybe it did nevcairiel |
| 17:38.05 | nevcairiel | People always freak out about stuff thats been known to us for month already |
| 17:38.09 | Fisker | it's still a stupid decision |
| 17:38.19 | nevcairiel | nah its not |
| 17:38.26 | Fisker | yes it is |
| 17:38.27 | nevcairiel | there has to be some incentive to run 25, or noone would do it |
| 17:38.32 | Fisker | there is |
| 17:38.34 | Fisker | loot |
| 17:38.41 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: i mean booty is more pirate than ninja |
| 17:38.56 | zenzelezz | depends what sort of booty we're talking |
| 17:39.35 | Humbedooh | I did an OnUpdate on a random frame, Kaso |
| 17:39.35 | nevcairiel | loot is the same, and even if 25 drops say 6 items, and 10 man 2, its usually still easier to get loot in 10man :p |
| 17:39.53 | Humbedooh | it returned (caller, time elapsed) |
| 17:40.01 | Humbedooh | worked just fine |
| 17:40.08 | Fisker | nope nevcairiel |
| 17:40.18 | nevcairiel | yes Fisker |
| 17:40.19 | Fisker | if 25-man dropped 5 items then it would be as easy to get loot in 10-man |
| 17:40.29 | Kaso | thanks for verifying Humbedooh |
| 17:40.52 | Humbedooh | besides, any serious programmer would've made an example using ... instead |
| 17:41.48 | Humbedooh | frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", print); <- same output in wotlk and cata |
| 17:41.59 | Humbedooh | well except for the memory addresses ofc |
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| 17:42.46 | Kaso | tyvm |
| 17:43.07 | Humbedooh | blames Torhal some more. |
| 17:43.56 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 17:44.07 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/t-mobiles-latest-android-phone-reinstalls-stock-os-if-rooted <-die die die |
| 17:44.08 | Humbedooh | turdus deus? |
| 17:45.02 | airtonix | is suspend to ram still a something windows 7 can't do properly ? |
| 17:45.21 | Fisker | works fine airtonix |
| 17:45.28 | nevcairiel | Works fine in my htpc |
| 17:45.35 | airtonix | why does the config panel have to be retarded? |
| 17:45.50 | airtonix | why no : [ ] enable suspend to ram. |
| 17:45.57 | airtonix | and be fucking done with it |
| 17:46.03 | Fisker | i think it's called hybrid sleep or something like that |
| 17:46.39 | airtonix | piece of shit |
| 17:47.25 | nevcairiel | hybrid sleep is on by default on the balanced profile though |
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| 17:47.52 | airtonix | why do i have to play with fucking profiles just to enable a simple concept |
| 17:47.58 | airtonix | FUUUU |
| 17:48.16 | Fisker | it gets removed if you disable hibernation as far as i recall nevcairiel |
| 17:48.24 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 17:48.37 | nevcairiel | balanced profile is hibernation = never, hybrid sleep on after 30 minutes |
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| 17:48.56 | Fisker | disable hibernation as in completely removing it |
| 17:49.02 | Fisker | not just telling it never to hibernate |
| 17:49.09 | nevcairiel | balanced is also the default profile |
| 17:49.18 | nevcairiel | you must've messed with it in the first place to break it, airtonix |
| 17:49.25 | airtonix | no |
| 17:49.28 | Fisker | most people do that |
| 17:49.29 | airtonix | it never ever worked |
| 17:49.38 | Fisker | maybe your computer just sucks |
| 17:49.41 | airtonix | no |
| 17:49.45 | nevcairiel | maybe your board/cpu doesnt support that low sleep state |
| 17:49.46 | airtonix | suspends fine on linux |
| 17:50.33 | airtonix | i have issues with this retard power configuration interface |
| 17:50.43 | Fisker | actually |
| 17:50.48 | nevcairiel | Fisker: hybrid sleep actually creates a hibernation file, so if you lose power, it can resume from that, otherwise it suspends to ram |
| 17:50.48 | Fisker | now that i'm reading up on it |
| 17:50.51 | Fisker | ^^^ |
| 17:50.59 | Fisker | so you just need standard sleep |
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| 17:51.12 | zenzelezz | will it work? The suspension is killing me! |
| 17:51.15 | airtonix | wtb [ ] enable suspend (yes/no) |
| 17:51.20 | nevcairiel | thats in there |
| 17:51.22 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 17:51.26 | airtonix | where |
| 17:51.31 | nevcairiel | its just called sleep not suspend |
| 17:51.40 | Fisker | can't even find a way to disable sleep i think |
| 17:51.44 | airtonix | i see : turn off disply [selecttime] |
| 17:51.49 | Fisker | atleast not any obvious way |
| 17:51.54 | airtonix | put computer to sleep (after a set time) |
| 17:52.00 | airtonix | i want suspend fucking NOW |
| 17:52.06 | airtonix | when i choose it |
| 17:52.08 | Fisker | the shutdown menu |
| 17:52.09 | Fisker | use it |
| 17:52.12 | airtonix | just wakes up |
| 17:52.15 | nevcairiel | shutdown menu has a sleep option for me |
| 17:52.16 | airtonix | does nothing |
| 17:52.22 | Torhal | drops a lawn dart on Humbedooh's big toe. |
| 17:52.23 | nevcairiel | stop moving the mouse :P |
| 17:52.27 | airtonix | im not |
| 17:53.09 | Fisker | do you have sex with the usb port? |
| 17:53.18 | nevcairiel | works fine for me, although i'm using hybrid sleep |
| 17:53.28 | nevcairiel | wakes up pretty fast too |
| 17:53.38 | Fisker | i really should use sleep |
| 17:53.40 | nevcairiel | i usually have to shake the mouse twice though, apparently it goes into sleep as well |
| 17:53.47 | nevcairiel | stupid wireless |
| 17:53.59 | Fisker | and get like some kind of atom-powered server to act as a fileserver/irc bouncer |
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| 17:54.11 | airtonix | it never actually powers down |
| 17:54.36 | airtonix | when i suspend in linux everything powers down except for the ram. |
| 17:54.39 | Fisker | WAT is kicking in probably |
| 17:54.41 | Fisker | hoho |
| 17:55.18 | nevcairiel | you probably have soem device causing wake ups |
| 17:55.19 | airtonix | choosing sleep in windows7 just results in this logout procedure where the screen turns off for a couple of seconds |
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| 17:56.01 | airtonix | again: why should i have to play around with stupiod profiles just to get a working suspend to ram concept working |
| 17:56.18 | cbreak | because you didn't buy a mac? :D |
| 17:56.33 | nevcairiel | i just tried on this box, and its working just peachy |
| 17:56.41 | nevcairiel | your system is just fucked up |
| 17:56.44 | zenzelezz | don't suppose this could be it? http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t666390-sleep-problem-in-win-7-solved.html (I'm assuming you've already found all these on Google) |
| 17:56.51 | Fisker | airtonix it's obviously some kind of client side issue |
| 17:56.54 | Fisker | works here just fine |
| 17:57.15 | nevcairiel | airtonix: check your system log |
| 17:57.22 | nevcairiel | t has an entry which device causes wake up |
| 17:57.23 | airtonix | how |
| 17:57.32 | nevcairiel | The system has resumed from sleep. |
| 17:57.33 | nevcairiel | Sleep Time: â2010â-â10â-â06T17:55:48.746670900Z |
| 17:57.33 | nevcairiel | Wake Time: â2010â-â10â-â06T17:56:09.035002100Z |
| 17:57.33 | nevcairiel | Wake Source: Device -USB Composite Device |
| 17:57.40 | nevcairiel | that was my mouse moving ^ |
| 17:58.09 | nevcairiel | System category, Source is "Power Troubleshooter" |
| 17:59.10 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_RVLOsUW6U&hd=1 |
| 17:59.20 | airtonix | i dont understand why i should have to fuck around with every single damn piece of hardwares sleep time out (nor why that even has any relevance to a "suspend right fucking now command) just to get a workign suspend to ram |
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| 17:59.48 | nevcairiel | Because your system is fucked up |
| 17:59.56 | nevcairiel | i didnt configure shit on either of my systems |
| 17:59.57 | airtonix | if you say "i want suspend to ram enabled", it should mean that you don't care about any damn power profile settings... |
| 18:00.00 | nevcairiel | and its working fine |
| 18:00.36 | Fisker | what's your hardware being set to be able to wake your device have to do with "power profile settings"? |
| 18:00.43 | nevcairiel | you're just weird. You don't have to switch profile, you can configure each profile the way you want to |
| 18:01.02 | nevcairiel | just ignore the profile selection and configure the active one to your liking |
| 18:01.04 | airtonix | well apparently that affects how the suspend thing works |
| 18:01.06 | nevcairiel | like, enabling sleep =P |
| 18:01.22 | nevcairiel | i dont think you can even disable sleep |
| 18:01.29 | nevcairiel | it'll use suspend to ram if your system supports it |
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| 18:01.40 | airtonix | which it does because i can suspend to ram in linux |
| 18:01.49 | nevcairiel | if you have some stupid device that constantly causes wake ups .. dont buy cheap hardware |
| 18:01.52 | Lunessa | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9189681/EU_releases_text_of_secretive_ACTA_copyright_treaty - interesting/scry |
| 18:01.59 | nevcairiel | and check your damn system event log |
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| 18:02.30 | airtonix | i dont understand why suspend should care about anything except the power button |
| 18:02.30 | Fisker | hehe |
| 18:02.33 | Adys | http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=2000 |
| 18:02.50 | nevcairiel | you need to press the power button to turn it on again? |
| 18:02.52 | Fisker | i remember being offered the tinfoil hat a few weeks ago when i was telling people that they would eventually implement the three-strikes rule |
| 18:02.55 | nevcairiel | thats uncomfortable |
| 18:03.19 | airtonix | no i press the power button to resume from suspend |
| 18:03.32 | nevcairiel | then turn all other events off, for all i care |
| 18:03.39 | airtonix | how |
| 18:03.40 | nevcairiel | by default it lets you use keyboard/mouse as well |
| 18:03.43 | nevcairiel | and supports WOL |
| 18:03.46 | nevcairiel | and some other things |
| 18:04.32 | nevcairiel | I'm done being tech support for the day, google is that way --> |
| 18:05.08 | Fisker | i need tech support on my google tv |
| 18:05.13 | nevcairiel | You dont have one |
| 18:05.26 | Fisker | that's the support i need |
| 18:05.29 | Fisker | when can i get it? |
| 18:06.02 | airtonix | i can see this is going to take a couple of days to fix... |
| 18:06.04 | airtonix | lulz |
| 18:06.09 | Fisker | not really |
| 18:06.11 | airtonix | ya |
| 18:06.14 | nevcairiel | a couple of minutes |
| 18:06.17 | nevcairiel | you're just not listening |
| 18:06.20 | airtonix | well i just spent a couple of minutes |
| 18:06.25 | airtonix | and it still wont suspend |
| 18:06.33 | Fisker | there's like 3 devices that can wake a computer |
| 18:06.44 | nevcairiel | did you look at the event log what caused the wake up? |
| 18:06.48 | airtonix | why should i have to buy new hardware when it suspends fine in linux ? |
| 18:06.52 | nevcairiel | its either a usb device or the network card |
| 18:06.53 | Fisker | Ethernet adapters, keyboards and mice (or input devices you could call them :o) |
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| 18:06.56 | airtonix | and event log ? lol |
| 18:06.57 | airtonix | where |
| 18:07.23 | airtonix | cbf i bneed to sleep. i thought windows was suposed to be easy. not this four hour fuck around |
| 18:07.38 | airtonix | bye, suspoendign to ram on linux :) |
| 18:08.02 | Fisker | you're pretty horrible at using operating systems then :o |
| 18:08.04 | nevcairiel | It is easy, you're just not cappable of pushing the right buttons, apparently. There is this nice configuration panel for all power related things |
| 18:08.08 | zenzelezz | pity, we were enjoying the show |
| 18:08.09 | Jamash | yay for symlinks |
| 18:08.17 | nevcairiel | you can turn off all wake up events there |
| 18:08.38 | Fisker | It was actually pretty funny when he didn't know about the event viewer |
| 18:08.49 | Fisker | i barely use linux and i still know about /var/log lol |
| 18:09.07 | nevcairiel | its actually quite useful and full of information |
| 18:09.50 | nevcairiel | but hey i figured out why suspending on my htpc took so long |
| 18:09.57 | nevcairiel | i didnt know it was creating a hibernation file =P |
| 18:10.31 | nevcairiel | not that i care, i press the button on the keyboard and turn off the tv and leave |
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| 18:13.15 | Fisker | man i'm looking forward to 600GB SSD's nevcairiel |
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| 18:16.08 | Torhal | I'm going to convert you to heat, Fisker. |
| 18:16.59 | Fisker | i wish you would Torhal |
| 18:17.30 | Torhal | Nevermind. I'll just use a furnace. |
| 18:19.01 | Fisker | me me me |
| 18:19.12 | Fisker | what about you Torhal ? |
| 18:19.29 | Ackis | hey Torhal |
| 18:19.32 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 18:19.33 | Ackis | someone called me a fool |
| 18:19.38 | Fisker | that could've been me |
| 18:19.49 | Fisker | me me me |
| 18:19.53 | Torhal | Fisker: What about me? |
| 18:20.13 | Torhal | Ackis: Clearly, they were misinformed. You're a clown. |
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| 18:20.46 | Ackis | oh |
| 18:21.39 | Fisker | me too Torhal |
| 18:22.24 | Torhal | No, Fisker; you're a buffoon. |
| 18:22.30 | Fisker | hold the fuck up Torhal |
| 18:22.46 | Torhal | holds Ackis. |
| 18:22.49 | Ackis | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/aliens_avatar |
| 18:24.14 | Fisker | oh shit Ackis |
| 18:24.19 | Fisker | it think i'm going to throw up |
| 18:24.37 | Ackis | do it in my mouth please |
| 18:24.46 | Torhal | pen-fifteen? |
| 18:25.14 | Lunessa | Torhal: You insult buffoons everywhere by raising Fisker to their level. |
| 18:25.23 | Fisker | ok Ackis |
| 18:26.22 | Torhal | Lunessa: Well, it beats the effort required to convert him into heat. |
| 18:27.08 | Lunessa | Torhal: "if you can slip a tablet into someone's coffee, it avoids an awful lot of mess." |
| 18:27.25 | Torhal | Heh |
| 18:27.59 | Torhal | Fisker: I'm going to murder you by numbers. |
| 18:28.16 | Fisker | what kind of numbers? |
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| 18:29.38 | Torhal | Fisker: ABC, of course. |
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| 18:36.20 | Fisker | i'm very sick Torhal |
| 18:37.20 | nevcairiel | we're sick |
| 18:37.22 | nevcairiel | .. of you |
| 18:38.03 | Fisker | sweet nevcairiel |
| 18:38.58 | Lunessa | go go Seerah, voice of reason: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27026326195&sid=2000 |
| 18:39.14 | Seerah | :) |
| 18:39.34 | Seerah | I logged in for that |
| 18:39.55 | Seerah | doesn't post as often anymore because sometimes it's just not worth looking up the authenticator code... |
| 18:40.03 | Lunessa | lulz |
| 18:40.19 | durcyn | "you're not even worth an 8-digit number to me." |
| 18:40.34 | Lunessa | It amazes me that people are fine with 'client features' but call addons 'bloat' |
| 18:41.31 | zenzelezz | nah, everyone knows ALL default UI is all coded in assembly for SUPER SPEED! |
| 18:42.04 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: please share what you are smoking. Your world apparently has a prettier sky. |
| 18:42.21 | zenzelezz | \o/ |
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| 18:48.33 | Angayelle | i'm trying to lock my frame using a slash command and the Frame:SetMovable(false) command, it's not working, i'm not sure it's the right rhing to do |
| 18:48.52 | Seerah | Does your frame need mouse interaction? |
| 18:48.57 | Angayelle | nope |
| 18:49.03 | Seerah | EnableMouse(false) |
| 18:49.12 | Angayelle | gonna try that |
| 18:49.13 | Seerah | then when they try to click to drag, it won't register |
| 18:49.22 | zenzelezz | what do you mean "lock" it? |
| 18:49.33 | Angayelle | so they can't move it |
| 18:49.43 | zenzelezz | can they normally? |
| 18:49.50 | cog|work | ~seen amarande |
| 18:49.58 | purl | amarande <amarande@24-151-30-76.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 9h 21m 4s ago, saying: 'because it looks like utility stuff like silence/interrupt will actually be more important than extra raw pewpew like orcs have'. |
| 18:49.58 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: http://sibuton.nl/Alle%20katten2010.jpg |
| 18:50.42 | Angayelle | aye they can so they move it wherever they want |
| 18:51.49 | Angayelle | wonderful it work, seerah |
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| 19:04.30 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2SVteMM3Xs |
| 19:06.45 | Ackis | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/fragoutp1.gif |
| 19:06.51 | Ackis | that's amusing |
| 19:07.07 | TC-Work | i hate this rain, we have had more problems today than the last week combined |
| 19:07.46 | TC-Work | Ackis: yes, yes it is |
| 19:07.57 | Angayelle | mmmh something is wrong in this : FFBTextFrameLabel:SetText(format("|cffff0000%.1f|r",-1*(GetTime()-g1)"/",(d1))) |
| 19:08.08 | Angayelle | i believe it's at the end |
| 19:08.41 | Angayelle | oh found it maybe |
| 19:10.01 | Lunessa | woot. BC ticket e-mails are in! |
| 19:10.29 | kd3|netbook | rain? hm |
| 19:10.43 | kd3|netbook | reminder of this time last year... a few feet of rain in a day or two outside of atlanta |
| 19:10.45 | kd3|netbook | that was fun |
| 19:11.11 | KarlKFI|work | desert weather, yay |
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| 19:12.34 | KarlKFI|work | 111F last monday in pasadena. then last night it was flash flooding and the 210 freeway had both directions shut down for a while due to multi-car crashes and spin outs, cause no one can drive in the rain. |
| 19:13.13 | cog|work | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/drippynuts.png |
| 19:13.15 | KarlKFI|work | with a high of 62F yesterday |
| 19:15.00 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/live-from-the-logitech-google-tv-event/ <-imma came |
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| 19:15.20 | Ackis | Today, me and my boyfriend drove to the pharmacy to buy a morning after pill after the condom broke last night. He parked in the expectant mother spot, which he thought was hilarious. I just cried. FML |
| 19:15.28 | Ackis | am I a bastard for laughing at that? |
| 19:15.36 | Ackis | nm we all know I'm a bastard |
| 19:15.38 | Ackis | right Torhal? |
| 19:15.48 | TC-Work | i laughed to |
| 19:15.51 | TC-Work | but them i'm an ass |
| 19:15.52 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 19:15.59 | cog|work | Fisker: do you have drippy nuts disease? |
| 19:16.18 | Fisker | no cog|work ? |
| 19:16.21 | Fisker | that's gross |
| 19:16.31 | cog|work | points up to his link |
| 19:16.46 | KarlKFI|work | rofl |
| 19:17.06 | Fisker | i want google tv now |
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| 19:17.32 | Fisker | and jnwhiteh's gon' giv it to me |
| 19:17.52 | Angayelle | anyone got a format command that would translate 110 secs into 1mn50 ? |
| 19:18.20 | kd3|netbook | there's a convenience function blizz uses for that, its name eludes me at present |
| 19:18.50 | Angayelle | oho would be a killer if someone could point it to me |
| 19:19.22 | Ackis | kd3: x mod 60? |
| 19:19.37 | kd3|netbook | now that involves *effort*. we can't have that |
| 19:19.46 | Ackis | derp |
| 19:19.48 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 19:19.53 | Fisker | imma get a revue |
| 19:19.53 | cog|work | doesn't the date function support formatting strings? |
| 19:20.04 | cog|work | http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html |
| 19:20.30 | cog|work | (in wow, date is supposedly equivalent to os.date) |
| 19:21.15 | Fisker | cog|work's gonna give it to me |
| 19:21.27 | cog|work | no i'm never gonna |
| 19:22.18 | Humbe^ICC | formatting strings = a'wha? |
| 19:23.49 | Fisker | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/logitechprep0049.jpg <-what the fuck you gonna do cog|work |
| 19:23.59 | cog|work | STEWART! |
| 19:25.18 | Humbe^ICC | I see John Noble! |
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| 19:33.59 | kd3|netbook | totally random anime geekout moment from kd3... first ep of 'the world god only knows' aired! |
| 19:34.04 | Torhal | Ackis: You're a -total- bastard. |
| 19:34.12 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:34.15 | kd3|netbook | re-prioritizes his download queue |
| 19:34.21 | Arrowmaster | kd3|netbook: is it subbed yet? |
| 19:34.39 | kd3|netbook | someone ripped the crunchyroll sub it looks like. it'll do until a real group gets to it |
| 19:34.43 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what it is but if you are freaking out over it ill check it out |
| 19:35.14 | Arrowmaster | ok downloading the HorribleSubs rip |
| 19:36.05 | Arrowmaster | kd3|netbook: have you watched Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai |
| 19:36.15 | kd3|netbook | yes; I am amused |
| 19:36.21 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 19:36.46 | Cide | kd3|netbook: get my email? |
| 19:36.54 | Ackis | Torhal: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2486-questhelper-page-contains-a-trojan/ |
| 19:36.54 | kd3|netbook | yes, yes I did. tyvm |
| 19:37.21 | Lunessa | "We understand that it's pretty common for the community, upon finding something wanting in their class, to look across the aisle at another class and say "Ooh, I want that!" It's a challenge to keep the 5 healing specs unique, but it's also very important to us. The OP calls those gimmicks. We call it trying to avoid homogenization." ~Ghostcrawler |
| 19:37.56 | Ackis | OMG POM http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/e3d32a81-ba0b-4121-8f2b-ae717725f641.jpg |
| 19:38.00 | Ackis | SQUEEEE |
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| 19:39.51 | durcyn | Ghostcrawler avoiding homogenization? You've fallen through a wormhole and landed in BIZARRO EARTH. Take pictures. |
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| 19:43.01 | Lunessa | durcyn: Kaplan is the one most often accused of homogenization. |
| 19:43.50 | durcyn | so your pal's only complicit. six of one. |
| 19:44.49 | Fisker | fuck yeah |
| 19:44.50 | Lunessa | Something crawled up your ass this morning? Or did I just notice your personality a little more today? |
| 19:44.51 | Fisker | revue is $299 |
| 19:46.02 | TMc51 | I would totally buy one of those if I A) had the cash, and B) had a TV. |
| 19:46.08 | Fisker | owned |
| 19:46.15 | TC-Work | i have the cash, just not the tv |
| 19:46.19 | TC-Work | nor do i care to get one |
| 19:46.54 | TMc51 | Well, technically, I DO have the cash, but buying it would mean no stick/wheel for my racing, and flight sims. |
| 19:47.45 | Ackis | TC-Work: I have a 27" CRT for sale |
| 19:47.48 | Ackis | $600 |
| 19:48.55 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14870046937&postId=148686689261&sid=1#57 <-lol'd Ackis |
| 19:49.04 | Adys | SWEETness |
| 19:49.05 | Adys | is |
| 19:49.06 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/10/06/termcolor.png |
| 19:49.51 | TMc51 | having fun with Python, are we? |
| 19:49.57 | Adys | yes |
| 19:49.57 | Adys | lots |
| 19:50.05 | Fisker | imma buy a logitech revue |
| 19:50.08 | TC-Work | Ackis: wtf do i want with that? |
| 19:50.14 | TMc51 | pick up the Pygame library, and it becomes even more fun =D |
| 19:50.34 | Torhal | Ackis: There's a condom on the QH page? |
| 19:50.38 | TC-Work | Fisker: i wouldnt follow your wants if i were you, i mean, you did go out and buy the G1 right away |
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| 19:51.34 | Fisker | no TC-Work |
| 19:51.41 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 19:52.01 | Fisker | no TC-Work |
| 19:52.02 | TC-Work | you fail as a tech oriented human being |
| 19:52.07 | Maldivia | Adys: and what about a chest piece, that has armor type right-aligned? |
| 19:52.32 | Fisker | no TC-Work |
| 19:52.36 | Maldivia | ohh nvm, there's a shield, with off hand on a line on it's own |
| 19:52.41 | Adys | Maldivia: tooltips have side information |
| 19:52.41 | Fisker | why do you keep lying TC-Work ? |
| 19:52.46 | Adys | i just dont handle it in my renderer |
| 19:52.47 | Fisker | u mad bro? |
| 19:52.50 | Adys | Maldivia: http://dpaste.com/254123/ |
| 19:52.58 | TC-Work | no, and i'm not lying |
| 19:53.12 | Fisker | you are |
| 19:53.20 | TC-Work | like Cairenn, i'm as pure as the driven-on snow |
| 19:53.24 | Maldivia | Adys: cute :P |
| 19:53.35 | Adys | it is |
| 19:53.35 | Adys | \o/ |
| 19:53.54 | Fisker | i haven't handled, let alone purchased, a G1 TC-Work |
| 19:54.11 | TC-Work | Fisker: bah, i mean Nexus one |
| 19:55.09 | Fisker | nexus one was awesome |
| 19:55.11 | Fisker | what's your point? |
| 19:55.24 | nevcairiel | maybe he thinks the revue is a phone |
| 19:55.46 | Fisker | maybe? |
| 19:55.47 | TC-Work | it was never awesome |
| 19:56.13 | Fisker | it's still the best android phone |
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| 19:57.09 | Fisker | ooh mkv |
| 19:57.41 | TC-Work | Lunessa: i think you need some of what Fisker is smoking, seems to be harder shit |
| 19:57.55 | durcyn | carriers fucking up android is the best vindication for hating android |
| 19:58.09 | durcyn | fisker how's your fragmented phone os doing these days |
| 19:58.55 | Lunessa | TC-Work: Nah, I just want the pretty sky and the high-speed complied code. I don't need the 'everything bets on Duke' and 'I'm a gaping asshole' side effects. |
| 19:59.20 | TC-Work | Lunessa: fair enough |
| 19:59.25 | nevcairiel | You USians are funny. You know, here we buy phones from phone manufactures, not from some carrier (or when we do, they just sell the original phones, maybe with a sticker on the side) |
| 19:59.49 | Fisker | what do you mean durcyn ? |
| 19:59.55 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: We can do that too - provided we don't want the subsidized cost. |
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| 19:59.59 | durcyn | nevcairiel: yeah, how's that working out for Nokia these days? |
| 19:59.59 | TMc51 | It's not our fault that every carrier screws its customers here. |
| 20:00.10 | nevcairiel | durcyn: no idea, i've owned a nokia, and never will |
| 20:00.20 | nevcairiel | never owned* |
| 20:01.08 | TMc51 | WTB decent GSM carriers. WTS crappy CDMA carriers. |
| 20:01.27 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: well, you just pay the money in your monthly fees anyway |
| 20:01.54 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: Pretty much, although we actually end up paying a lot over the life of the device. |
| 20:02.00 | durcyn | but, but, of _course_ it costs Ma Bell $25 to deliver SMS ... fuck, i can't even finish that one |
| 20:02.52 | TC-Work | to go from a 2 year contract with a new phone to a one year, it was only $70 more, well worth it |
| 20:03.10 | nevcairiel | I actually got my phone from my carrier, but they offer it seperate to my phone contract. So i know, i pay 20 ⬠a month for 2 years for my phone. And no monthly cost otherwise for my contract (could even get that phone without a contract with them), and its an official phone from motorola, not even branded |
| 20:03.43 | Lunessa | AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, all the major 'players' with their own equipment/networks basically have crappy customer plans which boil down to "pay us for at least two years, or pay fees to get out" |
| 20:03.48 | nevcairiel | that system is working out good here |
| 20:04.10 | durcyn | nevcairiel: you guys dodged a bullet on that one, though. over here, not a single phone company or ISP wants to be releggated to common carrier status, so they're all fighting tooth and nail to lock down phones and lock in customers, and it is disturbingly effective. |
| 20:04.19 | durcyn | relegated* |
| 20:04.34 | nevcairiel | T-Mobile just lost the exclusive rights on the iPhone |
| 20:04.40 | nevcairiel | i would say its getting better for us =P |
| 20:05.12 | durcyn | i wish the pipes would go back to just being dumb and let us do useful things over them, dammit. |
| 20:05.42 | nevcairiel | There is always one or another phone thats only being sold by one carrier |
| 20:05.48 | nevcairiel | but those are pretty rare these days |
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| 20:06.16 | Lunessa | I'm torn on that durcyn. I want the pipes to let me do what I want with them. But I also want people who own things to be able to do what they want with them. So I'm ideologically conflicted. |
| 20:06.55 | nevcairiel | But i guess its all easier in europe, where we all live in one country, the size of maybe 2 of your states. Carriers can actually build up coverage everywhere, and thus increase competition |
| 20:07.20 | durcyn | Lunessa: when you have private companies lobbying to have community wireless projects OUTLAWED for interfering with their profits, it may be time to do something, perhaps? |
| 20:07.22 | Lunessa | building wide area coverage in the US is a major challenge. |
| 20:07.50 | Lunessa | durcyn: There's that issue too. |
| 20:07.55 | kd3|netbook | durcyn, that pisses me off to no end |
| 20:07.58 | durcyn | that's such a crutch, you don't have to cover the entire continent |
| 20:07.58 | kd3|netbook | goddamned north carolina |
| 20:08.14 | nevcairiel | we have 4 major carriers with their own networks, all with full coverage in the whole country. And then of course the small carriers that provide resale of the big networks. |
| 20:08.52 | nevcairiel | but yeah, its all way smaller here |
| 20:09.34 | Lunessa | durcyn: We have 'universal access' laws for regular phones, and I believe there is a push to make that true for cell networks too. Which means cover everything. |
| 20:10.28 | durcyn | Lunessa: it's still a natural monopoly that tends toward collusion among players, and the bodies responsible for regulating it have failed repeatedly |
| 20:10.38 | Lunessa | I concur. |
| 20:10.53 | Ackis | durcyn: the bodies that regulate it are controlled by those players :( |
| 20:11.19 | durcyn | Ackis: not even that so much as just normal bureaucratic ineptitude on the part of the FCC |
| 20:11.37 | durcyn | though there's been a fair amount of lobbying over the net neutraility kerfluffle, to be sure |
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| 20:13.04 | nevcairiel | kd3|netbook: got your hands on the new ptr yet? :D |
| 20:13.12 | kd3|netbook | not til I get home |
| 20:13.26 | nevcairiel | i guess i'll read it in the morning then |
| 20:13.34 | kd3|netbook | is at school atm... this netbook would crash and burn trying to run the ptr |
| 20:13.39 | Fisker | hey kd3|netbook |
| 20:13.43 | nevcairiel | dont have to run it |
| 20:13.47 | nevcairiel | just the downloader :D |
| 20:14.29 | durcyn | yeah, torrent 13 gigs on your school network |
| 20:14.58 | Lunessa | So, I'm just going to dangle this out there... Come Cataclysm I'm going to try re-building <Grounding Totem> on US Kirin Tor into a social + light-commitment raiding guild. I'll be looking for members. :) |
| 20:15.48 | TMc51 | Alliance or Horde? |
| 20:15.54 | durcyn | Lunessa: make sure you get a tabard and 3 bank tabs before you advertise. |
| 20:16.09 | Lunessa | Alliance. However, I'll be opening a horde chapter too for goblins. |
| 20:16.18 | Lunessa | durcyn: And vent! |
| 20:16.38 | durcyn | ew, no. mumble. |
| 20:16.40 | nevcairiel | ew vent. mumble or TS3 is all the shit these days! |
| 20:16.42 | TMc51 | I've been looking for a new server to go for Cata, and was thinking Horde on Area 52, but the one thing I hate most is elitists. |
| 20:17.19 | TMc51 | Kirin Tor is RP, right? Been also meaning to try getting back into RP ever since I left Shadow Council. I think I'm the only person on Aerie Peak that ever RPs. =( |
| 20:17.27 | Lunessa | TMc51: Grounding Totem is currently full of people a lot like me. And leavened with Seerah's gentling influence. |
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| 20:18.07 | Lunessa | We're pretty light on RP, but we at least give it some creedence. |
| 20:18.20 | TMc51 | I'll pretend to know what "people like you" means. *is sorta new to the wowuidev community* =P |
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| 20:19.21 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 20:19.26 | Yssaril_android | Lunessa how is kirin tor doing these days? Was there horde side in vanilla and bc. |
| 20:19.28 | TMc51 | Although, the description you gave of being social with light commitment to raiding definitely fits what I've been looking for, so I'll definitely look into it if you do try rebuilding. =) |
| 20:19.45 | Lunessa | Yssaril_android: Depends one what you mean by 'doing'? |
| 20:20.09 | durcyn | TMc51: Like Lunessa? You know, cuddly, friendly types who enjoy long walks on beaches and small woodland creatures. And flamethrowers. |
| 20:20.17 | Lunessa | TMc51: I spent the money to renew the domain and hosting... I'm giving it another year. :) |
| 20:20.44 | TMc51 | Nice. Once 4.0.3 rolls around, I'll roll up a Dwarf Shammy to check it out. |
| 20:20.46 | Lunessa | Nukes. Tactical and Strategic. Poison. Nekkid wimmins. And whiskey. |
| 20:21.32 | Yssaril_android | Raiding population wise. Back in those days it would only support 2-3 raid guilds max (hord side at least) |
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| 20:22.18 | Lunessa | Yssaril_android: I don't know horde side. But Alliance side there's lots of small-to-medium guilds raiding and a lot of pug-raiding going on. |
| 20:22.35 | Yssaril_android | Nice |
| 20:23.18 | Lunessa | It's unlikely to be in the top 100 raid achievements or progression, and there's lots of douchebaggery from those who think they're more awesome than they are, but... such is life. |
| 20:25.03 | Yssaril_android | That happens everywhere though :( |
| 20:25.25 | TMc51 | true, but some servers are worse than the rest. |
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| 20:29.13 | Lunessa | I know lots of people here, and I'm pretty entrenched with alts, etc. |
| 20:30.29 | Ackis | anyone go see the movie Owls of Ga'Hoole? |
| 20:30.38 | Ackis | it's a hoot |
| 20:30.43 | Lunessa | oy |
| 20:31.14 | TMc51 | looked like a kids movie to me |
| 20:31.30 | Ackis | it is |
| 20:31.37 | TMc51 | but who am I to talk about kids movies, one of my all-time favorite movies is Shrek. XD |
| 20:31.42 | Arrowmaster | kd3|netbook: this The World God Only Knows show is fucking hilarious too, thanks for the tip |
| 20:31.57 | kd3|netbook | yw |
| 20:32.03 | kd3|netbook | has rather enjoyed the manga |
| 20:32.30 | Xyphoid | my wife's going to it, i think i'd end up snarking at it by accident and ruining it |
| 20:32.32 | TMc51 | So kd3, you're into manga/anime? Any decent new series to watch out for? |
| 20:33.52 | kd3|netbook | trying to decide what I'm going to track this season beside 'the world god only knows'. my sister can't be this cute is funny, but you've gotta get the references; bakuman looks like a watered-down genshiken (at least right now), uh... |
| 20:34.20 | kd3|netbook | remotes in to his box back home to look at his new-unsorted directory |
| 20:35.08 | TMc51 | http://myanimelist.net/animelist/TMcMahon51 hasnt been updated for close to 2 years, and they wiped all custom CSS, so craptastic default template. D: |
| 20:36.05 | kd3|netbook | grr, I'd point to my anidb profile but they're down |
| 20:36.10 | kd3|netbook | look for 'kd3' when it's back up |
| 20:36.39 | TMc51 | I never did like anidb much. Prefer myanimelist back when I was heavy into anime and manga because of how customizable it was. |
| 20:36.46 | kd3|netbook | sora no otoshimono s2, arakawa s2 I've got penciled in, otherwise it's up in the air |
| 20:36.56 | TMc51 | 'tis a shame, since I put so much work into my old template |
| 20:37.33 | kd3|netbook | "panty and stocking" is gainax doing PPG--crazily, probably gonna watch. hyakka ryouran samurai girls is anachronistic, but drawn really well |
| 20:37.57 | Arrowmaster | i watched that first one, was kinda funny |
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| 20:40.14 | kd3|netbook | here's what I've most recently downloaded: http://wowi.pastey.net/141252 |
| 20:40.43 | kd3|netbook | has seen up to arakawa in that list |
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| 20:54.11 | TC-Work | wtb stressless job |
| 20:55.17 | Arrowmaster | wtb job |
| 20:55.45 | TC-Work | 3 years of no job -> 3 months of new job -> bitching |
| 20:55.51 | TC-Work | thats how long it took |
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| 20:55.59 | TC-Work | to start bitching |
| 21:00.41 | zenzelezz | I'm surprised it took that long |
| 21:01.21 | Shirik | WE ARE BOUND BY BLOOD AND HONOR |
| 21:01.23 | Ackis | he's not a woman, it takes some time |
| 21:01.29 | Ackis | looks around |
| 21:01.29 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:01.32 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 21:01.35 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 21:01.35 | Fisker | i wanna ctrl+alt+del |
| 21:01.38 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:01.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik |
| 21:01.42 | Ackis | i wanna alt-f4 |
| 21:01.43 | Fisker | will you help me? |
| 21:01.45 | zenzelezz | some of us are bound by rope and leather |
| 21:01.51 | Shirik | ... |
| 21:01.55 | Maldivia | cmd-q ? |
| 21:02.01 | Fisker | i will kill you Shirik |
| 21:02.10 | Shirik | I will hug you Fisker |
| 21:02.36 | TC-Work | i will rub something upon you |
| 21:03.04 | Fisker | what is this shit Shirik |
| 21:03.06 | Fisker | i can't internet |
| 21:03.56 | Fisker | isn't consent.exe the program that elevates shit? |
| 21:04.13 | Dagmar | Sounds totally legit. |
| 21:04.15 | foxlit | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOzhZ3eRwpE |
| 21:04.21 | Fisker | i can't foxlit |
| 21:05.04 | foxlit | Fisker: Yes You Can't⢠|
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| 21:07.36 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/colorme4.png |
| 21:07.45 | Ackis | why does that joke/pun remind me of cog|work? |
| 21:07.55 | durcyn | because shut up. |
| 21:08.01 | Fisker | so |
| 21:08.14 | cog|work | Ackis: i don't stretch mine that far |
| 21:08.38 | cog|work | (c wut i ded there?) |
| 21:09.18 | Ackis | if you were European I could make a urapeein joke to go with this |
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| 21:09.55 | Fisker | i did it |
| 21:10.14 | Ackis | you left? |
| 21:10.38 | Fisker | i kept crashing processes so i could use ctrl+alt+del |
| 21:10.42 | Fisker | then my screen turned black |
| 21:10.48 | Fisker | then it posted again |
| 21:10.49 | Fisker | ??? |
| 21:10.50 | Fisker | profit |
| 21:11.06 | Angayelle | i could use the name of the spell in my unitaura command but then i will have to do the localization, on the other if i use spellID i'm fucked up with spell rank, right ? |
| 21:11.12 | Fisker | btw |
| 21:11.18 | zenzelezz | Ackis: don't go there, or we'll be forced to call you all Emoricans |
| 21:11.19 | Fisker | did you read that link i gave you Ackis? |
| 21:11.31 | Fisker | with the guy who went "ok then give me a ashes of alar too" |
| 21:11.32 | Fisker | :3 |
| 21:11.40 | durcyn | Angayelle: GetSpellInfo returns don't include rank in the name string. |
| 21:11.41 | Fisker | becaused he couldn't be bothered checking the raid rules |
| 21:11.51 | foxlit | Fisker: this is what you're missing out on: http://www.go-hero.net/box/pluto.png |
| 21:11.51 | Ackis | Fisker: yeah I didn't get it |
| 21:11.53 | zenzelezz | isn't spell ranks going away with 4.x? |
| 21:11.59 | Fisker | it was easy Ackis |
| 21:12.05 | Fisker | just duplicate mounts |
| 21:12.05 | durcyn | zenzelezz: yeah, but it doesn't even matter now |
| 21:12.07 | Fisker | give it to players |
| 21:12.08 | Fisker | ??? |
| 21:12.09 | Fisker | profit |
| 21:12.22 | Fisker | well i can obviously internets now foxlit |
| 21:12.40 | Fisker | think it was that consent elevator that fucked it up |
| 21:13.00 | Ackis | how do you dupe teh mount? |
| 21:13.11 | Fisker | get a GM to do it Ackis |
| 21:13.18 | Fisker | that was his point |
| 21:13.30 | Fisker | He thought the guy ninjaed the mount because he couldn't be bothered to check the loot rules |
| 21:13.32 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:13.34 | Fisker | he got 30000 gold for it |
| 21:13.48 | Ackis | the guy paid 30k gold to everyone in the raid? |
| 21:13.50 | Fisker | Then he wanted to give the gold back to the leader, let him keep the mount, and then have GM's spawn one for him too |
| 21:13.55 | Fisker | only to the "winner" |
| 21:14.12 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:14.39 | Ackis | http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/backflip.gif |
| 21:15.11 | TMc51 | epic dog is epic |
| 21:15.40 | durcyn | x y is x meme is old |
| 21:16.07 | Kraps | Defensive Stance now increases threat by 200%, up from 125%. |
| 21:16.14 | Kraps | haz a lol |
| 21:16.38 | Maldivia | Kraps: applies to all tanks |
| 21:16.51 | Kraps | ah i see |
| 21:16.53 | durcyn | Kraps: and RF. and Bear Form. and Blood Presence |
| 21:17.16 | durcyn | it's mostly just a tooltip fix though, since the threat calculation mechanices were already redone |
| 21:17.20 | Maldivia | so no, warriors aren't just so bad they need a boost compared to everyone else |
| 21:18.15 | Kraps | i disagree :p |
| 21:18.25 | Maldivia | well, not according to Blizzard |
| 21:18.44 | Maldivia | that the userbase think so... well, too bad :P |
| 21:19.24 | zenzelezz | screw the userbase |
| 21:19.29 | zenzelezz | tanking was too easy in WotLK |
| 21:19.46 | TC-Work | everything was too easy in wrath |
| 21:19.47 | Kraps | Maldivia: i have an 80 warrior tank |
| 21:19.50 | Maldivia | tanking, healing and dpsing was too easy |
| 21:19.56 | Fisker | gives Kraps a free fart |
| 21:20.06 | zenzelezz | probably, but I only tanked, so I'll refrain from making assumptions |
| 21:20.38 | Kraps | i think i'm better at healing though |
| 21:20.42 | Maldivia | pats Kraps gently on the shoulder... there there... it's not _that_ bad |
| 21:20.48 | zenzelezz | Kraps: not on your 80 warrior I hope |
| 21:20.55 | zenzelezz | cause then healing really is too easy |
| 21:21.00 | Kraps | not so much zenzelezz |
| 21:21.10 | Kraps | :p |
| 21:21.21 | Maldivia | well, warriors did get a pretty sweet heal :P |
| 21:21.33 | durcyn | what you should be up in arms about is not how 'easy' the game is, but how bad at an easy game most players still are. |
| 21:21.34 | Angayelle | can i use SpellID as a filter in : UnitAura("unit", index or "name"[, "rank"[, "filter"]]) ? |
| 21:21.42 | zenzelezz | I had lots of fun bandaging our warlocks and mages during nature phase on Hydross, since I was the frost tank |
| 21:22.02 | Kraps | like, i'm pretty bad at tanking hhor but pwn at healing it with me disc priest |
| 21:22.03 | Maldivia | Angayelle: you can always do UnitAura("unit", GetSpellInfo(spellId)) |
| 21:22.12 | Angayelle | not as filter but instead of name or index ? |
| 21:22.33 | Angayelle | oho thanks |
| 21:23.07 | Maldivia | might want to add () around the GetSpellInfo(spellId) actually, so you ignore the rest of the return values from GetSpellInfo |
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| 21:29.04 | Angayelle | it works perfectly, honestly i dunno how i could have done without you people |
| 21:29.47 | TC-Work | faster? |
| 21:29.50 | TC-Work | better? |
| 21:29.59 | TC-Work | less stressful? |
| 21:30.18 | Maldivia | you missed harder? stronger? |
| 21:30.41 | TC-Work | yea....i'm not daft punk |
| 21:31.05 | Kraps | TC-Work: hey |
| 21:31.09 | Maldivia | just daft? ha ha... :P |
| 21:31.47 | Kraps | TC-Work: are you in the MOH beta? |
| 21:32.11 | Lunessa | We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him stronger, faster, more fun at parties. |
| 21:34.22 | zenzelezz | http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2010/10/06/stupid-decisions-in-movies/ |
| 21:34.43 | Kraps | thunder child guy dude |
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| 21:36.10 | TC-Work | Kraps: no |
| 21:36.21 | TC-Work | for 3 days or whatnot it's not worth it |
| 21:36.58 | Maldivia | zenzelezz: you've never seen Groundhog Day ? |
| 21:37.33 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: don't think so |
| 21:38.24 | Maldivia | Bill Murray gets to repeat the same day over and over again, until he gets everything right, basically |
| 21:39.34 | nicoli_s | classic |
| 21:40.08 | Ackis | teabags nicoli_s |
| 21:41.09 | amro | so the movie never ends? |
| 21:41.15 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 21:41.16 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 21:43.15 | TC-Work | they spam that movie every year |
| 21:46.45 | cbreak | I got promoted from bronze to silver :) |
| 21:46.50 | cbreak | and got to keep my points. weird. |
| 21:47.11 | zenzelezz | amg haxx |
| 21:47.14 | Lunessa | "My advice is to chill a little, sit back, and watch Deathwing destroy your world." ~Ghostcrawler - I lol'ed |
| 21:47.35 | zenzelezz | haha |
| 21:47.37 | zenzelezz | link? |
| 21:48.48 | Lunessa | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27026326560/conflag-haste-scaling-intended/ |
| 21:49.49 | zenzelezz | cheers |
| 21:50.34 | TMc51 | Lunessa, not as funny as when Zarhym pretty much called somebody a bad. |
| 21:50.56 | Lunessa | He does that on a fairly regular basis |
| 21:51.33 | TMc51 | WTB a CM pulling a Tseric, and NOT getting fired for it. |
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| 22:08.22 | foxlit | "You cannot create a game because your status has been locked" |
| 22:08.35 | foxlit | battle.net is kind of meh |
| 22:08.55 | cog|work | bnet was all kinds of FUBAR last night |
| 22:11.16 | foxlit | looks like that still goes on. Random disconnects are random |
| 22:14.48 | amro | I'm mad at the sc2 campaign |
| 22:15.08 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 22:15.16 | amro | the last mission is 10x harder if you take out nydus instead of air units |
| 22:15.24 | amro | it's even harder on the ground |
| 22:15.30 | amro | ridiculous |
| 22:16.06 | sylvanaar | anyone know if the lifebloom-cluique bug has been fixed yet? |
| 22:16.21 | sylvanaar | s/clu/cl/ |
| 22:16.24 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: yep |
| 22:16.24 | Cairenn | jnwhiteh: ^^ |
| 22:16.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:16.31 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 22:16.31 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: they patched PTR and Beta |
| 22:16.39 | jnwhiteh | it wasn't a clique bug, was a bug with any name-based casting of Lifebloom |
| 22:16.47 | jnwhiteh | it was gettign the tree of life version of the spell |
| 22:16.52 | jnwhiteh | thus saying you coudln't cast it |
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| 22:17.04 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: I have a question about the integration you did. |
| 22:17.18 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh: sur |
| 22:17.26 | sylvanaar | wow i cant spell today |
| 22:17.32 | jnwhiteh | well first, are you using the new version of Clique? |
| 22:18.00 | jnwhiteh | second, what were PartyMemberFrame5 and CompactPartyFrameMemberSelf. I have been unable to find them anywhere.. |
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| 22:18.01 | sylvanaar | im going to get the wowi version now to be sure |
| 22:18.10 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: there are two versions |
| 22:18.22 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18181-Cliquerevampedcataclysm.html#info is what I need people using =) |
| 22:20.30 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh: about your other question - i didnt have anything to do with that my integration was the hook to setupframe |
| 22:20.44 | jnwhiteh | okay, was someone on Curse then |
| 22:20.48 | jnwhiteh | has anyone seen those frames? |
| 22:20.54 | jnwhiteh | I think they must have existed previously and dont' anymore |
| 22:20.58 | jnwhiteh | or I'm missing something =( |
| 22:21.04 | sylvanaar | ill heep any eye out, but no |
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| 22:22.04 | Angayelle | i have a getspellcooldown checking if combustion is up but when i'm gcd locked it return both startTime and duration different from 0, even if the cd is up |
| 22:22.11 | Angayelle | any workaround |
| 22:23.51 | Maldivia | compare with another spell to see if it has the same duration/startTime, preferably one that's doesn't and cannot be silenced |
| 22:24.02 | foxlit | Just be smarter about it |
| 22:24.08 | Maldivia | that doesn't have a cooldown* |
| 22:24.28 | foxlit | If duration is <= GCD, then your combusion is ready. |
| 22:24.52 | amro | I'm combused |
| 22:25.04 | foxlit | combusing! |
| 22:28.12 | Angayelle | perfect foxlit |
| 22:29.47 | sylvanaar | jnwhiteh: does this version of clique have a different interface |
| 22:29.51 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 22:29.54 | jnwhiteh | type /clique to bring it up |
| 22:29.57 | jnwhiteh | until i get the tab created |
| 22:31.16 | sylvanaar | lifebloom still doesnt work |
| 22:31.23 | sylvanaar | arg |
| 22:31.25 | jnwhiteh | it works properly for me |
| 22:31.29 | sylvanaar | are you resto |
| 22:31.29 | jnwhiteh | on PTR |
| 22:31.33 | jnwhiteh | I dont know if beta has caught up |
| 22:31.37 | Maldivia | in tree form as well? |
| 22:31.38 | jnwhiteh | i can go respec. |
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| 22:31.53 | jnwhiteh | but the non-tree-0form version has the same issue |
| 22:31.57 | jnwhiteh | regardless of whether you are resto or not. |
| 22:32.17 | sylvanaar | ill try a few things |
| 22:32.33 | jnwhiteh | whats it saying? |
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| 22:33.28 | nebula | the blue about the issue was this morning, no? they've already pushed a fix? |
| 22:33.30 | sylvanaar | You cant do that yet |
| 22:33.47 | jnwhiteh | Beta or PTR? |
| 22:33.51 | sylvanaar | beta |
| 22:33.51 | jnwhiteh | as I said, its been patched on PTR |
| 22:33.55 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 22:33.58 | jnwhiteh | Beta is and has been lagging behind, imo |
| 22:33.58 | kd3|netbook | hasn't been patched on beta yet |
| 22:34.05 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 22:34.07 | jnwhiteh | I'm on build 13156 |
| 22:34.42 | sylvanaar | beta just got a patch yesterday didnt it |
| 22:35.21 | TC-Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5-Dlf3oH0&feature=fvw |
| 22:35.27 | kd3|netbook | if it did I didn't hear about it... I'll have to check in a few hours when I'm home >.< |
| 22:35.30 | sylvanaar | anyhow - not going to worry about this one then, since a fix is forthcoming |
| 22:37.26 | jnwhiteh | Contest to design the new Clique icon w/ a fabulous prize for the winner: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=208301#post208301 |
| 22:37.38 | jnwhiteh | Please pass that on to any friends and family that might be interested. |
| 22:38.06 | Angayelle | can we use porn pics in the design ? |
| 22:38.17 | jnwhiteh | they won't win =) |
| 22:38.21 | Angayelle | awwww |
| 22:38.25 | jnwhiteh | or stay posted on wowinterface |
| 22:38.26 | jnwhiteh | but you can send them to me |
| 22:38.31 | jnwhiteh | and I'll take care of them =) |
| 22:38.40 | Angayelle | i don't wanna know |
| 22:38.50 | Mirrored | what if it's a pornographic (but cute) mouse? |
| 22:38.54 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: http://www.transformice.com/en/ you should steal one of those mices |
| 22:39.28 | Angayelle | furries...ooook |
| 22:39.57 | Angayelle | if i knew you were into that shadow, i wouldn't have used suf, now i fell dirty |
| 22:40.03 | Mirrored | there doesn't have to be anything perverted about it, mouse sexuality is a beautiful and natural thing |
| 22:40.04 | Angayelle | feel* |
| 22:40.06 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: if I can get in touch with them, those mice are adorable! |
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| 22:40.24 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh they are, they have a twitter account so I doubt getting in touch will be hard |
| 22:41.57 | jnwhiteh | not sure they'd be up for giving away their art entities tho =) |
| 22:42.17 | Angayelle | in exchange of credits, mybe |
| 22:42.21 | Angayelle | maybe* |
| 22:44.54 | jnwhiteh | yeah I have no idea how to even contact them =) |
| 22:45.48 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: see my link? =) |
| 22:46.07 | Cide | hi |
| 22:46.08 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/10/google-tests-search-preview.html |
| 22:46.20 | Angayelle | another noob question now, i have declared my savedvariable in the toc, put a function in the lua to act depending on the savedvariable, ofc setted it up using a slashcommand list but it doesn"t work |
| 22:46.46 | Angayelle | do i have to register the function in the xml too ? |
| 22:47.09 | Angayelle | i took a look at some addon but custom function are not registered into the xml it seems |
| 22:48.05 | Angayelle | http://www.pastey.net/141264-1ip1 lua |
| 22:48.36 | Angayelle | savedvariable is "lock" (obviously) |
| 22:49.11 | nebula | oh shit jnwhiteh, Tyrael mini pet? you actually have one? |
| 22:49.12 | foxlit | https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/ikfbfahhinbemojiloekflkfeeplnibe?hl=en-gb <3 |
| 22:49.25 | Maldivia | Angayelle: there are no "constructors" in lua files like that |
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| 22:49.30 | Angayelle | i have a tyrael too, not you ? |
| 22:49.41 | nebula | ;; |
| 22:49.45 | Maldivia | Angayelle: the CombustionSettings function isn't automatically called |
| 22:50.05 | jnwhiteh | nebula: unclaimed |
| 22:50.10 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure I'm willing to part with it |
| 22:50.13 | jnwhiteh | so perhaps I should remove that from the list =) |
| 22:50.17 | jnwhiteh | its worth quite a bit |
| 22:50.18 | Angayelle | ah that's why the savedvariables isn't used then |
| 22:50.35 | nebula | has to be the rarest pet, weren't there only like 500 issued at wwi? |
| 22:50.36 | jnwhiteh | £400 on ebay at the moment :P |
| 22:50.38 | Maldivia | can't remember if saved vars are loaded before the lua files are loaded now, or you still have to wait for the ADDON_LOADED event, also "lock" is a bad name for a global saved var :) |
| 22:50.44 | jnwhiteh | yeah, it was very limited edition |
| 22:51.03 | nebula | lucky :p |
| 22:51.05 | Angayelle | i believe we were more than 500 in wwi |
| 22:51.16 | jnwhiteh | there's just a limit to how many are left. |
| 22:51.18 | jnwhiteh | I should sell mine |
| 22:51.22 | jnwhiteh | they are worth a lot. |
| 22:51.23 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:52.06 | foxlit | "For the first time since Netscape, less than half the people browsing the web use Internet Explorer." |
| 22:52.11 | foxlit | wha? |
| 22:54.00 | Angayelle | maldivia, how can i set up combustionsettings to be called on loading ? by adding it to the onload function ? |
| 22:54.01 | Maldivia | foxlit: well, obviously, the release of netscape magically made an internet explorer app as well, and gave it 50% marked share |
| 22:54.38 | cbreak | no |
| 22:54.44 | cbreak | they had more than 50% market share |
| 22:54.54 | cbreak | but then, since netscape, that has not happened anymore |
| 22:55.03 | cbreak | because IE got more than 50% instead |
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| 22:56.40 | Maldivia | cbreak: netscape navigator was released in 1994, internet explorer released in 1995, soo there has never been a time where IE was present and not netscape |
| 22:56.57 | cbreak | sure there was. |
| 22:57.00 | cbreak | after netscape died |
| 22:57.33 | cbreak | because people didn't want to pay for a browser, when they could get IE for free |
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| 22:58.32 | Maldivia | well, netscape didn't die till 2008 |
| 22:58.46 | cbreak | they lost their hold |
| 22:58.59 | cbreak | and ages ago, they even threw away their browser |
| 22:59.11 | cbreak | into the hands of the open source community |
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| 23:03.52 | jnwhiteh | nebula: I have two Tyrael actually |
| 23:03.57 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht: and I both never used ours from WWI :P |
| 23:04.04 | nebula | they sell for 1k usd here |
| 23:04.09 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 23:04.15 | jnwhiteh | i could use that money =) |
| 23:04.18 | jnwhiteh | ebay, I assume? |
| 23:04.22 | nebula | yar |
| 23:04.24 | jnwhiteh | I wonder if they'd sell better in pairs :P |
| 23:04.46 | nebula | there's an aussie auction up selling two for 999$ each |
| 23:06.18 | nebula | so jealous ;[ |
| 23:06.26 | sioraiocht | mikma: ping? |
| 23:07.09 | Angayelle | what's the toc number for 4.0.1 btw ? |
| 23:07.36 | jnwhiteh | 40000 |
| 23:07.38 | Gnarfoz | 40000, probably. |
| 23:09.22 | Trela | OVER NINE THOUSAND! |
| 23:10.43 | nebula | ## Interface: 40000 |
| 23:10.44 | nebula | ## Title: Blizzard Talent UI |
| 23:10.46 | amro | no, that's the expansions where you've already killed all the bad guys and invade another dimension |
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| 23:43.15 | amro | odd, I just finished a long game with the exact same resource score as my opponent |
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| 23:51.45 | jnwhiteh | Is it normal to include characters in tags that arne't alphanum_-.? |
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| 23:54.38 | amro | jnwhiteh: what tags? |
| 23:54.54 | jnwhiteh | git/hg tags, for example |
| 23:55.00 | amro | dashes |
| 23:55.05 | jnwhiteh | I included dashes. |
| 23:55.09 | amro | oh |
| 23:55.10 | jnwhiteh | and underscore, and . |
| 23:55.14 | amro | I thought that was some weird smiley |
| 23:55.19 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 23:56.04 | amro | I've never seen characters outside that set in tags, and I don't really see the use |
| 23:56.28 | jnwhiteh | me neither |
| 23:57.05 | jnwhiteh | okay, I'm off to bed. |
