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| 00:26.49 | Thunder_Child | you are as bad as i am arent you Ackis |
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| 00:29.43 | SqueeG | Is Tekkub around? |
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| 00:46.42 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/b895ecb4-67d2-4400-be29-3e10c28809bb.jpg |
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| 02:15.26 | Thunder_Child | why is it so quiet in here tonight? |
| 02:15.35 | Thunder_Child | it feels like a weeikend in here |
| 02:15.38 | Thunder_Child | weekend* |
| 02:22.50 | Humbedooh | repo servers are down ;( |
| 02:23.03 | Humbedooh | and puppies are dying |
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| 02:26.04 | Torhal | Humbedooh: Those are core hound pups. |
| 02:53.41 | Thunder_Child | wow, this is amazing http://gizmodo.com/5648845/black-and-white-hdr-video-looks-like-an-artists-moving-sketches |
| 02:53.44 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: ^ |
| 03:02.41 | SqueeG | that is really cool |
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| 03:27.42 | Shirik | error CS0542: 'Main': member names cannot be the same as their enclosing type |
| 03:27.47 | Shirik | What kind of stupid ass error is that |
| 03:27.55 | Shirik | I can't have a Main function inside class Main? |
| 03:28.11 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 03:28.13 | Shirik | that would be a constructor |
| 03:28.15 | Shirik | ok I lose |
| 03:28.16 | Iriel | I'm guessing they're avoiding confusion with a constructor |
| 03:28.25 | Shirik | yes I'm just really tired I guess |
| 03:28.25 | Iriel | Indeed you do |
| 03:32.21 | Yssaril | lol amazon just changed the cata delivery date to Jan 4th |
| 03:33.11 | Xinhuan | sounds like an awesome marketing technique to keep changing dates, so as to pretend that there's a constant flow of product updates to the customer! |
| 03:33.20 | Iriel | Interesting -- standard edition is back at "not released", and Collectors Ed says Dec 31 |
| 03:33.36 | Iriel | They do have the disclaimer: Official pricing and release date have not been announced by the publisher. These are estimates only and subject to change. |
| 03:35.50 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/2_girls_1_cup.jpg |
| 03:37.27 | mikma | shirik: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/thumb.jpg |
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| 03:41.44 | nebula169 | amazon.ca has it listed 11/23 for standard and 11/30 for collectors edition |
| 03:42.24 | nebula169 | silly distributors |
| 03:43.59 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpyQsLqZTvM |
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| 04:29.51 | SqueeG | tekkub |
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| 04:31.24 | Torhal | SqueeG: There is no tekkub; there is only BaconMan. |
| 04:31.34 | SqueeG | mmm Bacon |
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| 04:34.47 | btrr | Does anyone know when abouts haste (or someone who I could ask a oUF related to) tends to be around? |
| 04:35.09 | Arrowmaster | haste: you have a guest |
| 04:35.15 | Thunder_Child | haste is here |
| 04:35.21 | btrr | Well that makes things easier than |
| 04:35.27 | Thunder_Child | though possibly not here here |
| 04:35.39 | Arrowmaster | ~seen haste |
| 04:35.49 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 326 messages. Is idling for 11h 17m 28s, last said: '""Sign in with your Xbox LIVE enabled Windows LIVE ID to view this player's achievements."'. |
| 04:38.25 | Fein | Can anyone tell me how i can access to basic characterstats like strengh, agility ...? Is there any function like "GetCritChance()"? Or a global variable? |
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| 04:40.43 | btrr | GetCombatRatingBonus() I think |
| 04:41.56 | Arrowmaster | !api ^GetCharacter |
| 04:41.56 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '^GetCharacter'. |
| 04:42.03 | Arrowmaster | !api ^Get |
| 04:42.03 | lua_bot | Found 702 possible matches for '^Get'. Please be more specific |
| 04:42.43 | btrr | !api ^GetCombatRatingBonus |
| 04:42.43 | lua_bot | GetCombatRatingBonus: Returns the percentage effect for the player's current value of a given combat rating (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCombatRatingBonus) |
| 04:43.10 | Fein | hmm^^ |
| 04:44.00 | Arrowmaster | !api UnitStat |
| 04:44.00 | lua_bot | UnitStat: Returns information about a basic character statistic for the player or pet (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitStat) |
| 04:44.36 | Arrowmaster | !api GetCritChance |
| 04:44.36 | lua_bot | GetCritChance: Returns the player's melee critical strike chance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCritChance) |
| 04:44.42 | Fein | ahh .. that looks good =) |
| 04:45.06 | Arrowmaster | see http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_categories#stats |
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| 04:45.36 | Fein | thx :) |
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| 05:33.07 | haste | btrr: leaving for work in 20m |
| 05:33.38 | btrr | Is that I should ask it now, or ask it after you get to work? ;) |
| 05:34.38 | Arrowmaster | i would just ask now |
| 05:35.06 | haste | I would do that as weln |
| 05:35.30 | haste | I won't be home until 11 hours from now :P |
| 05:35.39 | btrr | Ok, is there a way to PostUpdate a frame after it updates what is being targetted? |
| 05:35.47 | btrr | Or alternative, postupdate a tag I guess |
| 05:36.11 | haste | you can push a function into self.__elements, it's the table oUF runs on all full updates |
| 05:36.39 | btrr | Ok |
| 05:37.46 | btrr | In the interest of saving time is there an example somewhere, or should I just look up how to do? |
| 05:38.46 | haste | just do: table.insert(self.__elements, myFunctionReference) on the frame you want it on |
| 05:39.01 | btrr | Ahh right, thanks alot |
| 05:39.03 | haste | the table isn't run in any order however, so your function might run before the tag one |
| 05:40.40 | btrr | I should be able to handle it from there, I had just been updating things to work on Cata, and I figured I should probably see if there was a less hackish method than what I was using |
| 05:56.25 | btrr | Hmm, one more thing if you are still here. Adding that to either focustarget or targettarget makes the function fire repeatedly nonstop. Is this just an artifact of blizzard or is something gone horribly wrong? |
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| 05:58.05 | Fisker | i'm sick haste |
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| 06:39.35 | Shirik | hrm |
| 06:39.44 | Shirik | I've found the biggest flaw of distributed systems |
| 06:39.45 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Shirik |
| 06:39.58 | Shirik | if you work with retarded people, git's repository size becomes 500MB |
| 06:40.08 | Shirik | because people check in some binary file and then delete it and you still retain a copy of it |
| 06:40.30 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Shirik |
| 06:40.36 | Jerub | Shirik: yeah. i hate that. |
| 06:40.56 | zenzio | can you somehow purge that? |
| 06:41.19 | Jerub | i use a bfile extension with mercurial, which only commits the checksum and filename to the repo, and you push the big files to a separate repository that stores the files. |
| 06:41.37 | unfo- | Shirik, can't you just revert their commit that added the item? |
| 06:41.49 | Jerub | so you can retain small repos with large binaries n them. |
| 06:41.57 | Fisker | or Robert Knepper Shirik |
| 06:42.13 | cbreak_work | Shirik: what are your powers? |
| 06:42.25 | Shirik | unfo-, reverting would only increase the size of the repo |
| 06:42.29 | Shirik | cbreak, what do you mean :) |
| 06:42.36 | cbreak_work | are you allowed to, a. rewrite history, b. hit people with pointy sticks, c. change hooks in a master repo? |
| 06:43.11 | cbreak_work | (or even hooks in the repos of the idiot committers) |
| 06:43.25 | cbreak_work | you could write one that prevents the pushing or even commiting of gigantic blobs |
| 06:43.41 | Shirik | yes yes yes |
| 06:43.44 | Shirik | but I fear rewrites |
| 06:43.57 | cbreak_work | rewrites are easy |
| 06:44.00 | Shirik | because that's going to break everyone's repos right? |
| 06:44.05 | cbreak_work | and if you do it on a branch, it will be without danger |
| 06:44.08 | cbreak_work | oh, yes |
| 06:44.14 | cbreak_work | it will, once you publish the rewrite |
| 06:44.24 | cbreak_work | but they can git pull --rebase, and it should work |
| 06:44.26 | cbreak_work | maybe :) |
| 06:44.54 | Shirik | well I'll work on that later |
| 06:44.59 | cbreak_work | Shirik: check man git-filter-branch, if you want to try it |
| 06:45.13 | cbreak_work | --index-filter allows you to eradicate things from the history, among other things |
| 06:49.13 | Jamash | you know, it's nice to do a heroic on my disc priest every so often |
| 06:49.55 | Jamash | also git sucks |
| 06:50.35 | zenzio | "A Possible Solution to the Running Wild Dilemma"... I just don't see why worgen not having mounts is such a "dilemma" to mount collectors |
| 06:52.25 | Mikk | bring back plainsrunning & give tauren something to qq over |
| 06:52.30 | Mikk | alliance 1 : horde 1 |
| 06:52.40 | Jamash | give everyone stone wheels like in BC |
| 06:52.47 | Mikk | now THAT |
| 06:52.56 | Mikk | i would pay money to see :D |
| 06:57.02 | zenzio | now this did give me a chuckle... http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/766254-Kron-Kar-Annihilator-Fixed |
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| 07:03.18 | Reiser_ | i didn't kill my wife |
| 07:04.07 | unfo- | wtf. that's like the second time i've seen that :D |
| 07:05.04 | unfo- | Mikk, i agree with plainrunning+tauren |
| 07:05.54 | Fisker | that Reiser_ guy must be a master of deception |
| 07:06.18 | zenzio | I think they should just give all horde Plainsrunning and all alliance Running Wild |
| 07:06.53 | Jamash | give horde a palanquin carried by gnomes imo |
| 07:07.11 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Jamash |
| 07:07.49 | Jamash | Robert Knepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band? |
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| 07:10.33 | Fisker | no Jamash |
| 07:10.36 | Fisker | Robert Knepper you |
| 07:11.00 | Jamash | In soviet russia, Knepper Robert you |
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| 07:11.25 | Fisker | almost the same thing Jamash |
| 07:12.43 | Torhal | You're sick, Fisker. |
| 07:13.28 | zenzio | "And Horde have as a faction bonus "Win 9/10 bgs" so I think it's just fair that Alliance can get a unique looking race." |
| 07:13.52 | Jerub | zenzio: hahahahahaha |
| 07:16.10 | Fisker | i'm not sick Torhal |
| 07:16.13 | Fisker | i am a free man |
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| 07:19.51 | Torhal | Fisker: You're not a number? |
| 07:23.32 | Fisker | nope |
| 07:31.13 | zenzio | so in a thread called "Strangest WoW habbit?", someone posted "Jumping into the instance portal, as if my feet will be cut off if i walk in"... I notice I do this too |
| 07:31.47 | cbreak_work | I turn away from bosses while buffing/summoning water/... |
| 07:32.08 | cbreak_work | occasionally blinked into gruul, hydraxion and others |
| 07:32.18 | zenzio | lol |
| 07:32.42 | stew-a | i do that during fights, but mainly because some genius put blink next to evocation on my actionbars |
| 07:32.47 | zenzio | I remember learning when not to use Bloodrage when we were pet-pulling one of the dragon bosses in Blackwing Lair |
| 07:35.13 | zenzio | think my strangest habit would be always keeping eight stacks of bandages on me (well, now I only keep four), something I started on my way to my first 60 |
| 07:37.07 | stew-a | i keep a copy of the aesthetic outfit that the first gm who appeared to me wore, just in case he or someone similar answers one of my tickets again :P |
| 07:37.23 | zenzio | :-) |
| 07:38.16 | stew-a | well, it looks the same, had to replace the gamemaster slippers with dress shoes and martin thunder with whichever sword it is looks like martin thunder |
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| 08:07.37 | Reiser_ | what happened to me! |
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| 08:13.57 | zenzio | http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/ISelfAware,-Very-Thorough,-Crazy-Hashmaps,-and-More.aspx?pg=2#323493 |
| 08:17.07 | zenzio | "Sup dawg, I heard you like references, so we've put a reference in your reference so you can get self while you have self!" |
| 08:17.30 | zenzio | sometimes I'm saddened that I love such coder humour |
| 08:17.40 | unfo- | ;) |
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| 08:28.35 | Fisker | you disconnected me on purpose sylvanaar |
| 08:30.55 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 08:31.17 | sylvanaar | ive been sleeping on and off |
| 08:31.22 | sylvanaar | so not my fault |
| 08:35.50 | Fisker | as have i sylvanaar |
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| 08:42.08 | Jamash | Soldiers arise, stand and fight! Bring victory at last to this fallen knight! |
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| 08:42.29 | zenzio | it amuses me how dailyWTF comments turn into a ".999 == 1" war |
| 08:42.57 | Jamash | so dailyWTF 2010 is Battle.net 1997? |
| 08:43.24 | zenzio | I'm pretty sure people have been fighting over .999 == 1 since usenet days or before |
| 08:45.07 | Jamash | I suppose |
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| 08:49.16 | Xinhuan | omg |
| 08:49.19 | Xinhuan | best post ever |
| 08:49.21 | Xinhuan | http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91487 |
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| 08:50.06 | unfo- | Xinhuan, ;D |
| 08:51.08 | zenzio | hehe |
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| 08:57.15 | Jamash | Xinhuan: XD |
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| 09:00.39 | Wobin | my god this is kind of stupid |
| 09:00.44 | Wobin | I have to RDP into my netbook |
| 09:00.48 | Wobin | to install the Canon RAW driver |
| 09:00.59 | Wobin | because the installer doesn't -accept- my netbook screen resolution |
| 09:02.21 | Torhal | Wobin: I'm pretty sure this is why clubs and knives were invented. However, that was before the advent of mass surveillance systems. |
| 09:03.05 | Wobin | I'm just glad the windows version I have on the netbook -has- rdp |
| 09:03.33 | Wobin | (and that I decided to check that I could connect the camera before I went on the trip) |
| 09:15.58 | Jamash | someone put up a bunch of eternal fires with a 17g buyout and a 1c min bid |
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| 09:16.03 | Jamash | I hope they don't notice |
| 09:39.29 | mitch0 | notices |
| 09:50.57 | Torhal | NSFW: http://www.dumage.com/lego-for-adults/ |
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| 09:57.14 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/09/indian-man-immune-electrocution/ |
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| 10:02.11 | cbreak_work | http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/government-seeks |
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| 10:08.31 | industrial | http://i.imgur.com/JtgTv.jpg |
| 10:08.33 | industrial | :') |
| 10:11.42 | mitch0 | wtf? |
| 10:13.07 | zenzio | lol |
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| 10:26.23 | zenzio | Cairenn|afk: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/09/30/funny-pictures-kittens-tail-heart/ |
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| 10:38.59 | zenzio | http://mthruf.com/2010/09/26/job-lols-i-hope-you-are-a-parallel-parking-master/ |
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| 13:08.45 | |Jelly| | huggles Peppy |
| 13:08.56 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear. |
| 13:10.01 | |Jelly| | How arre you this -fine- morning? |
| 13:11.25 | Lopeppeppy | Pissed off. Peppy before lunch is not reasonable. |
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| 13:11.32 | |Jelly| | :( |
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| 13:12.15 | |Jelly| | takes the pillow away from Cairenn while she's not here to defend herself and offers it up for Peppy to go back to sleep on! |
| 13:12.15 | Lopeppeppy | On the positive side, I'm not expected to spend my whole weekend doing photography. On the bad side, I don't know how to be AV tech support. |
| 13:12.17 | |Jelly| | muahaha |
| 13:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I think she and I can share, our heads are small enough. And an excuse for cuddling! |
| 13:14.01 | |Jelly| | sexy teim |
| 13:14.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep is often sexy. |
| 13:15.06 | |Jelly| | indeed |
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| 13:54.39 | Ackis | rawrs the room |
| 13:54.45 | alestane | .... |
| 13:55.11 | alestane | ~~~~R~AW~R~~~~~~~ |
| 13:55.20 | alestane | Do not attempt to out-rawr a dino. |
| 13:55.32 | cog|away | or a gnome |
| 13:55.35 | cog|away | RAWR |
| 13:55.46 | cog|away | unless you're a dino-gnome |
| 13:55.48 | cog|away | like peppy |
| 13:56.03 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 13:56.04 | alestane | huggles Peppy lots and lots. |
| 13:56.14 | Lopeppeppy | heya, alestane |
| 13:56.21 | cogwheel | mornin' |
| 13:56.31 | cogwheel | offers caffeine & happys |
| 13:56.35 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, cog-a-thingie |
| 13:56.40 | alestane | I don't have to work over ten hours in Boston today! |
| 13:56.46 | Lopeppeppy | woot? |
| 13:56.55 | cogwheel | neither do i? <.< |
| 13:57.12 | alestane | In a week or two I'll be praying to again, because I was certainly earning, but today I am pleased to be working for myself. |
| 13:57.34 | alestane | Especially sicne by the time you got here, cog, there wouldn't be ten hours left today. |
| 13:58.32 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 14:00.59 | Ackis | you gnomes are hella strange |
| 14:01.29 | cogwheel | ur hella normal! |
| 14:01.45 | Ackis | me normal? lulz |
| 14:02.01 | cogwheel | ya i was being mean :P |
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| 14:07.52 | Ackis | spawn anything yet cogwheel? |
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| 14:10.27 | Lopeppeppy | ... heaven forfend he should spawn! |
| 14:11.24 | TC-Away | Ackis: you enjoying citiesXL? |
| 14:11.39 | Ackis | TC-Away: I played it for about 30 seconds to register last night |
| 14:11.47 | Ackis | was busy in Halo Reach getting a reach around |
| 14:12.03 | alestane | I seem to remember that that's what he thinks too, Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:12.17 | TC-Away | Ackis: i was looking at the cittiesxl site. you get 50% the new version if you have the code from the old one |
| 14:12.59 | Ackis | I need to try the game out first, and I doubt I'd get the new one until it's < $10 |
| 14:13.46 | cogwheel | Ackis: i spawned larvae in sc2... that count? |
| 14:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. Just as gross, cogwheel. |
| 14:14.04 | cogwheel | XD |
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| 14:14.09 | Ackis | cogwheel: go see a doctor, that's not normal bro |
| 14:14.39 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 14:14.41 | Fisker | not so hey Ackis |
| 14:14.49 | Fisker | btw i got the new dashboard which i don't use |
| 14:14.50 | cogwheel | ahoy |
| 14:15.00 | Ackis | Fisker: your point? |
| 14:15.09 | Ackis | why did you spend $300ish on an xbox if you don't play? |
| 14:15.20 | Fisker | why would i play on a shitty console? |
| 14:16.05 | Ackis | I didn't realize we were talking about a ps3 here |
| 14:16.16 | Fisker | they're both shitty consoles |
| 14:16.27 | Ackis | so why did you buy them? |
| 14:16.28 | Fisker | infact |
| 14:16.38 | Fisker | The term "shitty console" is redundant |
| 14:16.52 | cogwheel | Wii would like to disagrii |
| 14:17.12 | Ackis | the Wii is so bad it's not even in this conversation cogwheel |
| 14:17.34 | cogwheel | if by bad you're measuring it in every way besides what makes it awesome |
| 14:17.51 | Fisker | the wiimote is pretty awesome |
| 14:17.57 | Fisker | everything else is achievable with Dolphin |
| 14:17.58 | Fisker | wii sucks |
| 14:18.58 | Lopeppeppy | you only like the wiimote 'cause it's phallic. |
| 14:19.32 | cogwheel | and it comes with that squishy, ribbed cover... |
| 14:19.41 | Ackis | ... |
| 14:19.47 | Ackis | no wonder you odn't have kids |
| 14:20.13 | cogwheel | Ackis: *points to the one who commented on the wiimote being awesome* |
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| 14:20.28 | cogwheel | Ackis: attribution FAIL! |
| 14:20.29 | cogwheel | :p |
| 14:20.54 | p3lim | any of you know some US place that sells xbox and ships internationally relatively cheap? |
| 14:21.01 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:21.11 | Fisker | Consoles suck |
| 14:21.40 | p3lim | for fps, sure |
| 14:21.46 | Lopeppeppy | Amazon, p3lim? :P |
| 14:22.09 | Ackis | hey Arrowmaster there's an impossible challenge today in Halo Reach |
| 14:22.22 | p3lim | Lopeppeppy: their shipping cost is a bit much |
| 14:22.29 | Ackis | "Complete 3 Rounds in a Firefight Matchmaking game without dying" |
| 14:22.40 | cogwheel | any international shipping is going to be a bit much imo |
| 14:23.07 | p3lim | i've found places that sends internationally quite cheap, though it wasnt for games |
| 14:23.24 | cogwheel | some might not pay much attention to import laws... |
| 14:23.28 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 14:23.31 | Fisker | i imported you |
| 14:23.44 | p3lim | usually when its sent as a gift the importing is ignored :) |
| 14:23.48 | Fisker | no it isn't |
| 14:23.53 | Fisker | Maybe if it was still 1990 |
| 14:24.10 | cogwheel | or sept 10, 01 |
| 14:24.33 | cogwheel | Fisker: does that mean i'm danish now? |
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| 14:25.06 | Fisker | why? |
| 14:26.21 | cogwheel | u imported me |
| 14:26.50 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 14:26.51 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:27.00 | Fisker | you're still american until you've been here for like a billion years |
| 14:27.37 | Lopeppeppy | I knew he smelled funny. |
| 14:27.40 | Lopeppeppy | Must be all that tar. |
| 14:28.08 | cogwheel | thinks he missed something... |
| 14:29.16 | Lopeppeppy | Smelly old dinosaur taking a bath in La Brea? |
| 14:29.39 | Thunder_Child | eh, thoes are fake |
| 14:29.45 | cogwheel | vy am i drippings vith goo? |
| 14:31.09 | cogwheel | work work |
| 14:31.48 | vithos | vith goo... |
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| 14:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm hmmm. |
| 14:33.53 | Lopeppeppy | Goo is a technical term for dino droppings. |
| 14:34.04 | Ackis | goos your face |
| 14:34.09 | Ackis | that doesn't sound right |
| 14:34.31 | Thunder_Child | it does depending on how you wanted it said |
| 14:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | ... the boyfriend will have something to say about that. :P |
| 14:36.15 | Ackis | sorry I'm infringing on his goo territory |
| 14:36.26 | Ackis | goes over here now. |
| 14:37.06 | Thunder_Child | wuss |
| 14:38.58 | Ackis | no imma smrt man |
| 14:39.06 | Ackis | peppy and Chantelle will team up against me |
| 14:39.09 | Thunder_Child | wuss |
| 14:39.54 | Ackis | :( |
| 14:40.00 | Lopeppeppy | Your wuss is a survivor, TC. |
| 14:40.30 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: well i'm not a wuss and i seem to have managed to survive you. |
| 14:40.34 | Thunder_Child | so far |
| 14:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | but not her *and* me |
| 14:41.27 | Thunder_Child | well i dont know 'her'. however, i am not afraid! |
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| 14:42.11 | Ackis | you should be :( |
| 14:42.28 | Thunder_Child | never |
| 14:42.33 | Ackis | did you ever see that family guy where lois started karate or w/e it was? |
| 14:42.43 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 14:43.29 | Ackis | oh |
| 14:44.34 | Thunder_Child | i may retreat in the face of overwhelming adversity. but i will never be afraid. |
| 14:45.03 | Ackis | you will be. |
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| 14:49.30 | Fisker | i could just kill you Ackis |
| 14:49.34 | Fisker | do you get that? |
| 14:53.01 | industrial | fucking co-workers |
| 14:53.15 | industrial | I now have one in front of me that gulps |
| 14:53.25 | industrial | every. sip. of. every. substance. |
| 14:53.51 | industrial | ಠ_ಠ|
| 14:53.58 | industrial | really, coworker? |
| 14:54.12 | Ackis | Fisker: Fable 3 |
| 14:54.38 | industrial | Fisker: also, your mother in bed. (this is not a sexual reference) |
| 14:55.42 | Fisker | Ackis why do you fable 3 me? |
| 14:56.37 | Ackis | because it's the best game ever |
| 14:56.43 | Ackis | it comes out in October |
| 14:56.46 | Ackis | end of October |
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| 15:07.14 | Fisker | fable sucks just as much as consoles do Ackis |
| 15:08.35 | nicoli_s | i think ill get fable 3 |
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| 15:09.43 | nicoli_s | i need to get dead rising 2 as well |
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| 15:17.11 | Ackis | Fisker: http://bit.ly/bHhPJZ |
| 15:20.08 | nicoli_s | poor canadian kids |
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| 15:34.44 | Cidan | er, 4.0 next week? |
| 15:35.17 | Ackis | I smell good today |
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| 15:37.55 | Legorol | Cidan: can't be, arena season ends on 12 Oct |
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| 15:38.25 | Alram | Legorol, check mmoc frontpage :P |
| 15:38.45 | Alram | it might be before |
| 15:38.55 | Ackis | wow sucks you should all play hello kitty |
| 15:39.04 | Alram | hello kitty sucks sorry |
| 15:39.49 | Ackis | it's still better than wow |
| 15:39.50 | Ackis | :D |
| 15:39.52 | Ackis | muhahaha |
| 15:42.14 | Alram | :( |
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| 15:59.58 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:00.51 | nevcairiel | I don't think they'll launch before the season ends |
| 16:00.53 | nevcairiel | it would be madness |
| 16:01.36 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 16:01.44 | Lopeppeppy | Are you covered in goo? |
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| 16:04.33 | Lunessa | I am covered in "barely recovered" |
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| 16:07.20 | zenzelezz | "In a spectacularly creative effort to rid Guam of the brown tree snake, an invasive species which has ravaged local wildlife and angered local residents, the US Department of Agriculture is planning to 'bomb' the island's rainforests with dead frozen mice laced with acetaminophen." |
| 16:07.23 | zenzelezz | this sounds wicked |
| 16:08.06 | nevcairiel | mice bombs! |
| 16:13.34 | Lunessa | With an analgesic. |
| 16:14.04 | batrick | i thought most snakes don't eat dead prey |
| 16:14.19 | Lunessa | They will. |
| 16:14.47 | Lunessa | Snakes are, in many cases, opportunistic. They just need it to be warm, which will happen quickly in the heat. |
| 16:15.19 | batrick | but the mice will be room temperature, I'd figure most snakes wouldn't be able to see it |
| 16:15.33 | batrick | in any case, I'm a novice on the subject so... |
| 16:17.54 | nevcairiel | oh right, snakes have heat vision |
| 16:20.04 | Ackis | batrick: we're all novices, we're humans after all, not snakes :P |
| 16:20.22 | amro | there are a few snakes that consult for the Department of Agriculture |
| 16:20.23 | Ackis | except for Fisker |
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| 16:25.44 | Lunessa | ... remarkably direct. http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100929 |
| 16:27.52 | zenzelezz | Gu's pretty good usually |
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| 16:46.44 | Adys | How does the realid ui in wow react when a friend is connected to more than one service at once? |
| 16:46.54 | Adys | eg two linked wow accounts online |
| 16:47.41 | Fisker | sup Thrae |
| 16:47.43 | Legorol | i don't know about two wow accounts, but if it's 1 wow + 1 sc2, then whichever you logged in to first that's active |
| 16:47.50 | Legorol | so you'll get whispers there |
| 16:47.55 | Fisker | Adys it's suppose to link to the last client going online |
| 16:47.59 | Legorol | if you log that one off, the other will start receiving them |
| 16:48.07 | Fisker | which is obviously not the case ;3 |
| 16:48.20 | Legorol | mmm i can be remembering wrong, it could be the last one, |
| 16:48.22 | nebula169 | in the friends list, it just lists all the games their own in the tooltip |
| 16:48.25 | Legorol | it's possible that Fisker is right |
| 16:48.28 | nebula169 | on* |
| 16:48.30 | Adys | thanks Legorol and Fisker |
| 16:48.36 | Fisker | no Legorol |
| 16:48.50 | Legorol | it's definitely one of them until it logs off, then the other one |
| 16:48.52 | Fisker | not sure if does consistently work with the first client logging in |
| 16:49.10 | Fisker | but Blizzard officially have stated it should be the last client to login |
| 16:49.25 | Fisker | (But i know that haven't been the case all the time) |
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| 16:52.53 | cog|work | zerg has completely infested the popular topics list: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/ |
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| 16:54.12 | Fisker | you should've seen tasteless cog|work |
| 16:54.16 | Fisker | he couldn't computer |
| 16:54.27 | Fisker | or some jerk technicians had updated his Windows without restarting |
| 16:54.30 | Fisker | either way he's a jerk |
| 16:54.33 | cog|work | what is this i don't even |
| 16:55.14 | Fisker | in the middle of casting a game windows restarted after applying updates |
| 16:55.14 | Fisker | :D |
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| 16:56.54 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: does your opinion of real ID change with the new "features"? |
| 16:57.59 | Lopeppeppy | They can feature it up all day long, still do not want. |
| 16:58.15 | Lopeppeppy | Although to be honest, I haven't read about the new features yet, so that's a knee-jerk reaction. |
| 16:58.49 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: opt-out of being on friends-of-friends lists |
| 16:58.55 | cog|work | and FB friend finder |
| 16:59.24 | cog|work | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/791409678 |
| 16:59.42 | Lopeppeppy | Opt out is always good. But backwards -- one should have to opt IN to anything one wants, not have it defaulted. Friend finder will help out the people who really want to use the functionality. |
| 17:00.11 | cog|work | i mean opting out of friend finder |
| 17:00.15 | cog|work | it's always been there |
| 17:00.23 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I'm pre-disposed to be grouchy today. *hug* |
| 17:00.35 | cog|work | *huggle* |
| 17:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | hopefully I start sleeping again soon, insomnia makes for cranky dinos |
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| 17:07.13 | Fisker | what new features Ackis ? |
| 17:09.24 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:09.27 | Fisker | that took some time |
| 17:10.08 | Fisker | it was kinda silly how you had to setup parental controls just to disable real id btw |
| 17:10.14 | Fisker | but i think it's ok that it's opt-out |
| 17:10.21 | Fisker | FoF and FB Friends should be opt-in though |
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| 17:19.21 | TC-Work | amazing, i moved the music over to my phone via doubletwist, and the doubletwist app cant find the music |
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| 17:19.53 | cbreak | what is a doubletwist? |
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| 17:20.40 | TC-Work | http://www.doubletwist.com/ |
| 17:21.47 | cbreak | iTunes for android? who would want something like that :/ |
| 17:22.07 | sylvanaar | so this is the new player for BN whispers: PLAYER = "|cff7268c5|Kf5|k0000000000|k|r", |
| 17:22.16 | cbreak | it's not that I don't like iTunes, but it must be possible to make something much better |
| 17:22.23 | sylvanaar | so this is the new player for BN whispers: PLAYER = "|Kf5|k0000000000|k", |
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| 17:22.43 | TC-Work | i like everything about itunes except for the program |
| 17:22.47 | sylvanaar | what do i even do with that |
| 17:23.01 | TC-Work | granted i have 25,000 songs or so, the thing is a slug |
| 17:23.07 | cbreak | sylvanaar: looks like a string with some markup |
| 17:23.24 | cbreak | I think |c is for color, don't know |K |
| 17:24.37 | Humbedooh | |k is the new black |
| 17:26.24 | sylvanaar | K is the presence id or something |
| 17:35.24 | Fisker | ironic TC-Work |
| 17:35.32 | Fisker | "Free your phone, by admitting yourself to jail" |
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| 17:36.32 | Fisker | or actually |
| 17:36.34 | Fisker | fail review :( |
| 17:39.49 | TC-Work | and by that you mean fail fisker |
| 17:42.43 | cog|work | not for the squeamish: http://skepticblog.org/2010/09/30/cast-your-eye-on-this/ |
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| 17:58.47 | sylvanaar | ok, fix was easy enough |
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| 18:00.25 | p3lim | what programing language is .pl? |
| 18:00.39 | breeze_ | perl |
| 18:00.43 | p3lim | thanks |
| 18:01.05 | Lopeppeppy | ~botsnack |
| 18:01.05 | purl | :), Lopeppeppy |
| 18:02.34 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1215989116 |
| 18:03.19 | Adys | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/veni-vidi-verba-verti.html |
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| 18:08.00 | breeze_ | Does anyone know a good library for creating GUI windows? Or a link that teaches me how to make a GUI (preferrably without making an XML file). I've been using AceGUI so far, but maybe there are other ones out there :) |
| 18:10.39 | sylvanaar | there are 15 chat args now |
| 18:11.22 | Lunessa | Wow. These phishing e-mails are getting pretty good. |
| 18:12.02 | Shirik | ok, there should be a law that says if you make a UI that requires use of a mouse, you are sentenced to death |
| 18:12.10 | Shirik | maybe "unnecessarily requires" |
| 18:12.52 | TC-Work | breeze_: agreed |
| 18:12.54 | TC-Work | mt |
| 18:12.58 | TC-Work | Shirik: agreed |
| 18:13.11 | Shirik | I was jusing OneNote and it requires me to log in |
| 18:13.22 | Shirik | so I type in my username and it has a dropdown autocomplete, so I push "down, enter" |
| 18:13.27 | TC-Work | jsuing = just using? |
| 18:13.40 | Shirik | and it's like "Oh, enter means 'OK!'" so it tries to log in without a password |
| 18:13.42 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:13.46 | Shirik | I don't know how that happened |
| 18:14.49 | TC-Work | i do, happens to me all the time |
| 18:15.06 | TC-Work | it's when your thought is on the next word and not the one you are typing |
| 18:15.12 | TC-Work | so you start typing the new word |
| 18:18.57 | SqueeG | tried mailing an alt of mine last night, who's name starts with 'B' and someone said 'butt' in guild chat |
| 18:18.58 | SqueeG | ...so i ended up trying to mail 'Butt'\ |
| 18:19.12 | TC-Work | how did that work for you? |
| 18:19.25 | SqueeG | I at least got a chuckle :p |
| 18:22.24 | amro | [19:13] <TC-Work> jsuing = just using? |
| 18:22.29 | amro | that's not what I'd assuming seeing jusing. |
| 18:22.38 | amro | and wow |
| 18:22.44 | TC-Work | it context you would |
| 18:22.50 | amro | Shirik I blame you |
| 18:22.56 | TC-Work | s/it/in/ |
| 18:23.33 | Lunessa | Context is king? |
| 18:23.40 | olafski | ackis: nice clip :P |
| 18:24.00 | amro | spotting jokes is queen |
| 18:25.00 | Ackis | olafski: ? |
| 18:26.42 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:26.44 | Fisker | i fucked up halion |
| 18:26.56 | olafski | ackis: the reach self-sniper action :) |
| 18:27.22 | olafski | Imma "like" that! |
| 18:27.45 | Ackis | olafski: lol yeah I wasn't sure what happened at first but when he did it slow-mo it was win |
| 18:29.40 | olafski | =) |
| 18:29.51 | olafski | yeahhhhhhhhhhh get out of my car! |
| 18:30.27 | alestane | So, I was just trying to follow an online tutorial for the SC2 Galaxy editor, and I get strange white globes instead of custom marines. Any ideas? |
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| 18:31.32 | TC-Work | white globe sounds custom to me |
| 18:33.00 | alestane | That sounds like a useless remark at first look. |
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| 18:37.19 | SqueeG | were you trying to replace the marines? |
| 18:37.41 | alestane | I found a tutorial on sc2mapster that explains how to create a custom copy of the marine unit. |
| 18:37.49 | Galvin | Tell me what you think of my holy rune bar? http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Teyasio/HolyRunesDark.jpg |
| 18:38.08 | alestane | I created a new unit, duplicated the marine actor and assigned the duplicate to the new unit. |
| 18:38.08 | SqueeG | pixelly :D |
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| 18:38.21 | Galvin | Thats cause I made it big |
| 18:38.23 | amro | alestane: try #sc2mapster |
| 18:38.26 | Galvin | size ccan be changed. |
| 18:38.38 | alestane | That's a reasonable suggestion. |
| 18:38.43 | Galvin | but does it look good? |
| 18:38.46 | SqueeG | did you custom make the runes, galvin? |
| 18:38.54 | Galvin | blizzards from ptr |
| 18:39.00 | amro | alestane: it makes me look knowledgable when I have no clue. |
| 18:39.17 | alestane | As long as that channel exists, which it appears to. |
| 18:39.19 | SqueeG | aw, was gonna say, if they were custom, just make them vectors |
| 18:39.19 | Galvin | I used two textures, the dark ones I used setvertexcolor to make them look like they're turned off |
| 18:39.51 | Galvin | Then the lighted ones are hidden/shown thru setalpha |
| 18:39.59 | SqueeG | are you going to do anything with the space between the runes? |
| 18:40.09 | Galvin | Yeah you can set that too. |
| 18:40.20 | SqueeG | that works |
| 18:40.30 | Galvin | Theres padding between runes, scale of each rune, size of each rune |
| 18:40.52 | Galvin | scale I just simpled used setpoint offsets on the texture within the frame. |
| 18:41.00 | SqueeG | and the frame adjusts to accomodate? |
| 18:41.03 | Galvin | yes |
| 18:41.07 | SqueeG | good deal |
| 18:41.14 | Galvin | This is my final bar for galvinunitbars |
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| 18:41.38 | Galvin | i think it looks awesome, but was hoping others think its awsome too :) |
| 18:41.51 | Galvin | Also you can set a fadeout time for all 3 runes. |
| 18:41.51 | msoul | Greetings |
| 18:42.03 | SqueeG | nice :D |
| 18:42.06 | msoul | What's it called |
| 18:42.33 | msoul | The runic addon you speak of |
| 18:42.34 | Galvin | Check this screeny out http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Teyasio/HolyBarWithOptions.jpg |
| 18:42.55 | Galvin | Galvin's UnitBars but I dont have the darkrunes one uploaded to cata branch yet. |
| 18:44.02 | msoul | ok |
| 18:44.03 | Galvin | Is there a way to make curse have cata addon copies for people to download like wowinterface.com does. |
| 18:44.18 | Galvin | the holypower bar is fully functional. |
| 18:44.25 | Galvin | took 2 days to do it |
| 18:45.00 | Galvin | I was thinking of having a statusbar texture mode incase people don't like the runes, not sure if its neccessary. |
| 18:45.51 | nebula169 | Galvin: you can specific the ptr/beta dirs in the curse client, it picks up on the changes somehow, I assume though the ## X-Compatible-With: 40000 toc entry |
| 18:46.15 | nebula169 | someone could correct me on the it :p |
| 18:46.26 | Galvin | Right now my cata copies are in branches/cataclysm. |
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| 18:48.55 | Galvin | Was surprised blizzard used UNIT_POWER and 9 as the holy power type. thoughti was going to be seperate from that. |
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| 18:49.51 | Galvin | think a statusbar would be cool for holypower too? |
| 18:51.06 | Galvin | the background of that holybar can be fully configured. |
| 18:51.33 | SqueeG | a statusbar for... what status? |
| 18:53.00 | Galvin | Statusbar for the holypower goes up in 3rds |
| 18:53.01 | Fisker | yes Alram |
| 18:53.03 | Fisker | i just came |
| 18:53.21 | Galvin | 33,66,99 |
| 18:53.33 | Fisker | rage |
| 18:53.34 | Galvin | well statusbar setvalue 1 2 3 |
| 18:53.35 | Fisker | couldn't connect to steam |
| 18:53.40 | durcyn | Galvin: just wait a week and everyone'll be on 4.0 anyway |
| 18:54.22 | SqueeG | ugh |
| 18:54.27 | SqueeG | 4.0 is dropping next week? |
| 18:54.39 | Galvin | I dont know how its not due out unofficially till dec |
| 18:55.28 | durcyn | the patch, not the expansion |
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| 18:56.11 | SqueeG | i don't want 4.0 yet -.- |
| 18:56.22 | Galvin | yeah I know |
| 18:57.17 | MoonWitch | haste ping? |
| 18:57.35 | alestane | Oh hey, it's MoonWitch. |
| 18:57.45 | MoonWitch | alestane, yes indeed |
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| 18:58.00 | alestane | refrains from devouring her messily. |
| 18:58.09 | MoonWitch | Oh do continue |
| 18:58.10 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 18:58.52 | MoonWitch | Can I just say that I hate moving? Nothing has a spot, my gaming rig has no internet (since the wifi card can't fit in the case without me removing my gfx card) |
| 18:59.23 | nevcairiel | how is the wifi card not fitting related to moving |
| 18:59.43 | MoonWitch | because in our old house, I wired half the place with cat6 cables |
| 18:59.52 | MoonWitch | and here -- those cables aren't here :( |
| 19:00.02 | nevcairiel | should've taken them with you :) |
| 19:00.03 | MoonWitch | I also lack an actual desk to put the pc on |
| 19:00.22 | nevcairiel | i had the same desk problem after moving, took 3 weeks to get a proper one |
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| 19:00.32 | durcyn | wifi on a gaming rig is kill-yourself territory anyway |
| 19:00.41 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 19:00.43 | MoonWitch | yeah but the issue is -- there's coax and phone lines to my room, no utp .. so I gotta find the start of those cables and replace them with cat6 :D (or use Powerline) |
| 19:00.43 | Lopeppeppy | Wired for gaming, all the way! |
| 19:00.55 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy, exactly my thoughts too |
| 19:01.13 | nevcairiel | I would just put the dsl on the phoneline in that room =p |
| 19:01.17 | MoonWitch | also : wifi 12mbps.. wired 28mbps (I can't live with half the speed) |
| 19:01.24 | MoonWitch | I have cable |
| 19:01.34 | nevcairiel | cable comes over coax, doesnt it |
| 19:01.40 | nevcairiel | doesnt see the problem there! |
| 19:01.44 | durcyn | go get some fish tape and pull UTP, it'll take an hour |
| 19:01.48 | SqueeG | dunno why the world is trying to push wireless EVERYTHING |
| 19:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | only to the modem, nevcairiel. |
| 19:01.58 | MoonWitch | modem is in garage |
| 19:01.59 | nevcairiel | yes yes, so move the modem :) |
| 19:02.08 | MoonWitch | can't -- |
| 19:02.10 | nevcairiel | also, why is your wifi so damn slow? |
| 19:02.14 | Lopeppeppy | Or move into the garage *with* the modem! |
| 19:02.24 | MoonWitch | I haven't a clue about the slowness, it does piss me off |
| 19:02.34 | nevcairiel | i mean, we live in times of 11n 300mbit wifis |
| 19:02.47 | durcyn | it's probably that faraday cage between you and the other radio. that'll do it every time. |
| 19:02.57 | MoonWitch | partially |
| 19:03.12 | MoonWitch | that's why downstairs on wifi is fine |
| 19:03.21 | MoonWitch | but upstairs is just not doable |
| 19:03.26 | durcyn | anyway, do you have an attic? |
| 19:03.33 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 19:03.37 | MoonWitch | without any cabling lol |
| 19:03.40 | nevcairiel | thats why big houses suck |
| 19:03.45 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:04.08 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 19:04.13 | kd3 | WWI officially ends on sunday |
| 19:04.23 | MoonWitch | also cuz we painted everything (and my room is white), I had to promise not to smoke in my room anymore :( |
| 19:04.40 | nevcairiel | world war I? i thought thats been over for a bit longer |
| 19:04.40 | MoonWitch | that's going to screw up my guild's raids in all honesty |
| 19:04.46 | MoonWitch | lol nev |
| 19:04.47 | kd3 | http://uk.news.yahoo.com/38/20100929/twl-first-world-war-officially-ends-on-s-6ae0455.html |
| 19:04.52 | durcyn | home depot has 50ft fish tape for $18 and a cat6 spool for $0.40/ft |
| 19:04.57 | nevcairiel | its really world war I o.O |
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| 19:05.22 | durcyn | and punchdowns are cheap |
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| 19:06.19 | nevcairiel | not everyone has drywalls though |
| 19:06.30 | MoonWitch | yep, gotta get the (no clue what it's called though) the thing to attach RJ45s |
| 19:06.41 | kd3 | a crimper? |
| 19:06.44 | MoonWitch | it's the punchdowns we're avoiding at all costs |
| 19:06.50 | MoonWitch | thanks kd3 :) |
| 19:07.19 | durcyn | drywall saw and some clip-on brackets instead of boxes |
| 19:07.37 | nevcairiel | drywall is mostly a US thing, we euros don't use it much :p |
| 19:07.38 | durcyn | or jsut pull it into the existing box and replace the phone line faceplate |
| 19:07.41 | nevcairiel | we have solid walls |
| 19:07.59 | durcyn | so rent a drill and a masonry bit, ffs. point is, cable runs are easy =P |
| 19:08.00 | kd3 | to defend against the german air raids? >.> |
| 19:08.49 | nevcairiel | well, not me |
| 19:08.51 | nevcairiel | i am german |
| 19:08.51 | MoonWitch | durcyn, that's what I am planning on :) btw I am female and have no "construction" experience .. so it'll be fun :D |
| 19:08.51 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 19:09.20 | nevcairiel | ~seen iriel |
| 19:09.28 | purl | iriel <~Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 15h 35m 52s ago, saying: 'They do have the disclaimer: Official pricing and release date have not been announced by the publisher. These are estimates only and subject to change.'. |
| 19:09.33 | durcyn | MoonWitch: it's easy enough, the fun part is making five trips to the home improvement store, so plan it out first =P |
| 19:09.39 | nevcairiel | aw i missed him last night |
| 19:09.54 | zenzelezz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlQkzYjs-g&feature=player_embedded#! - wow, us gamers are weird |
| 19:10.05 | MoonWitch | durcyn, I ordered the faceplates last night (since mom wants the same look as the other ones) |
| 19:10.40 | Fisker | imma faceplate u MoonWitch |
| 19:11.01 | mikma | ackis: was it you that coded the "free" authenticator? |
| 19:11.12 | zenzelezz | free? |
| 19:11.22 | nevcairiel | all mobile authenticators are free |
| 19:11.28 | zenzelezz | think Adys was coding some PC authenticator |
| 19:11.40 | mikma | oh, adys. |
| 19:11.45 | Fisker | not really nevcairiel |
| 19:11.46 | nevcairiel | antiarc codec an alternative app for android |
| 19:11.46 | mikma | well, someone did code one |
| 19:11.50 | stew-a | actually they charge like $1 or 50p etc for the java versions of the mobile authenticators last i checked |
| 19:12.04 | nevcairiel | well, iphone and android are free, at least =p |
| 19:12.22 | durcyn | java phones, how quaint |
| 19:12.31 | Adys | I get offended when people confuse me with ackis |
| 19:12.31 | TC-Work | or you could get one for $150 |
| 19:12.42 | durcyn | Adys: you're not, uh, canadian, are you? |
| 19:12.48 | Adys | god no |
| 19:12.54 | Adys | mikma: http://github.com/Adys/python-bna the library behind it |
| 19:13.00 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: what was different about Antiarc's from the Blizzard one? |
| 19:13.01 | Adys | i made a web frontend and a cli frontend for it |
| 19:13.30 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: multiple authenticators in one app, can backup the token secret in case you manage to format your phone, and a widget |
| 19:13.43 | zenzelezz | hm |
| 19:13.53 | zenzelezz | did he put it on the Android market? |
| 19:13.56 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:14.00 | nevcairiel | flexauth |
| 19:14.01 | TC-Work | whats it called? |
| 19:14.04 | TC-Work | ty |
| 19:14.05 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: cheers |
| 19:15.47 | Galvin | so the packager picks up on 40000 in the toc and makes a different zip for it that people can tell its for cata and not live? |
| 19:15.50 | nevcairiel | Somehow i think the fixes for my restricted environment issues won't make it in 4.0.1 .... if they get fixed at all <.< |
| 19:16.14 | zenzelezz | which issues? |
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| 19:17.21 | nevcairiel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000&pageNo=4#76 |
| 19:17.46 | nevcairiel | thats a real bug, two posts above that is something i would still wish to be added, but i can work around it if i have to |
| 19:18.14 | mikma | adys: my apologies, i didn't confuse you, i just didn't remember who coded it |
| 19:19.09 | Adys | i hate u |
| 19:19.27 | Adys | im improving the cli one right now |
| 19:19.37 | Adys | so that it can be packaged and used out of the box on any system |
| 19:19.38 | Adys | if you want |
| 19:19.45 | Stanzilla | I want! :p |
| 19:19.52 | Adys | it uses the OS keyring to store the secret |
| 19:20.07 | Adys | tries to anyway, thats still untested on anything but kde |
| 19:20.34 | nevcairiel | I rather keep the authenticator off the box that i play on, just to be safe :d |
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| 19:21.30 | mikma | adys: well, authenticators are must in cata, and my friend is broken and i wanted to surprise him with "free" authenticator |
| 19:21.48 | Adys | i think you mean that your friend is broke |
| 19:21.56 | mikma | yes |
| 19:21.59 | mikma | i think |
| 19:22.02 | nevcairiel | how are they a must? |
| 19:22.06 | Adys | they're not |
| 19:22.08 | nevcairiel | didnt they just add that guild thing? |
| 19:22.14 | Adys | yep |
| 19:22.15 | durcyn | he could also be broken |
| 19:22.23 | Adys | durcyn: I'd call the cops then |
| 19:22.23 | mikma | broken cause hes broke |
| 19:22.27 | durcyn | missing a leg or some teeth |
| 19:22.29 | mikma | also hes fat. |
| 19:22.38 | Adys | is he your mom? |
| 19:22.42 | mikma | cause he broke himself in the army |
| 19:22.50 | mikma | nope, my mom is not my friend |
| 19:23.00 | Adys | that's what she wants you to think |
| 19:23.10 | mikma | ofc |
| 19:23.21 | olafski | what's the relation between authenticators and guilds? oO |
| 19:23.23 | mikma | now i see why people confuse you with ackis |
| 19:23.38 | Adys | olafski: guild masters can set ranks and permissions depending on whether the account has an authenticator attached |
| 19:23.41 | mikma | olafski: guildleader must have authenticator, officers too. |
| 19:23.46 | olafski | oO |
| 19:23.46 | Adys | absolutely not |
| 19:23.51 | nevcairiel | you can configure that |
| 19:23.54 | nevcairiel | its not required |
| 19:23.55 | olafski | interesting |
| 19:23.58 | Adys | the GM has full configuration power over it |
| 19:24.01 | mikma | no you cant from officers and gl's |
| 19:24.09 | mikma | other ranks you can |
| 19:24.27 | nevcairiel | officers are nothing special, just dont use the rank and create a new one then =P |
| 19:24.32 | mikma | gl and officer is grey'd out, it cant be taken off |
| 19:25.00 | mikma | veteran is the first rank you can toggle off |
| 19:25.09 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXWapiln55I |
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| 19:31.48 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:31.50 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arachnophobia&direction=next&oldid=273440553 |
| 19:32.17 | cog|work | lawl |
| 19:32.34 | Lunessa | ... http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=227501071 |
| 19:32.47 | zenzelezz | Shirik: I see you didn't feel like fixing the MPQ page |
| 19:32.54 | Shirik | hm? |
| 19:33.14 | zenzelezz | sent you a message the other day about how the indexing section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpq ends very abruptly |
| 19:33.38 | Shirik | I must have missed it |
| 19:37.46 | olafski | what's with that spider picture oO |
| 19:37.59 | mikma | arachnofobia |
| 19:38.11 | mikma | its priceless edit imho |
| 19:38.27 | mikma | phobia* fobia.. whateva |
| 19:38.28 | olafski | I don't get it.. it's just a picture of a spider |
| 19:38.30 | Shirik | zenzelezz: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MPQ&diff=387970038&oldid=385587243 |
| 19:38.45 | olafski | or is it funny because it doesn't illustrate arachnophobia |
| 19:39.11 | mikma | you dont know what arachnophobia is? |
| 19:39.27 | olafski | yes.. fear of spiders.. the picture seems applicable |
| 19:39.39 | zenzelezz | olafski: if you had arachnophobia and were looking it up, would you like being presented with that picture? |
| 19:39.54 | olafski | if I had arachnophobia I wouldn't need to look it up :< |
| 19:39.57 | zenzelezz | Shirik: \o/ |
| 19:40.08 | mikma | itws like hacking epileptic-website and adding flashing lights |
| 19:40.17 | zenzelezz | someone did that over here this year |
| 19:40.23 | mikma | and yes, people have done it |
| 19:41.31 | Shirik | hm |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | if I type my password wrong into my school website, it gives me "500 Internal Server Error" |
| 19:41.53 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:41.53 | Shirik | oh the confidence I have in them |
| 19:42.06 | zenzelezz | know what else is funky? |
| 19:42.28 | zenzelezz | coming across an SQL statement for performing a login and seeing it uses "password LIKE ..." |
| 19:42.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:42.51 | Shirik | "eh the password was close enough" |
| 19:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | password, like... gag me with a spoon? |
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| 19:43.08 | Shirik | I wonder if there's a string that you can use that will try all possibilities |
| 19:43.14 | nevcairiel | how does like behave if you don't use wildcards in the term? |
| 19:43.24 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Depends on the implementation |
| 19:43.32 | Shirik | MSSQL treats it as "contains" |
| 19:43.41 | Shirik | MySQL treats it like "equals" |
| 19:43.48 | Shirik | I think |
| 19:43.52 | nevcairiel | so, like %term% for mssql? |
| 19:43.55 | nevcairiel | thats just evil |
| 19:44.17 | Shirik | mssql doesn't have % |
| 19:44.26 | olafski | it doesn't? I always use that :/ |
| 19:44.33 | olafski | or is mssql not sql server |
| 19:44.33 | Shirik | pretty sure it doesn't |
| 19:44.38 | Shirik | it is |
| 19:44.41 | Shirik | maybe I'm thinking of something else |
| 19:44.45 | Shirik | one of the implementations doesn't have % in it |
| 19:44.49 | nevcairiel | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa933232(v=sql.80).aspx |
| 19:44.50 | nevcairiel | it does ^ |
| 19:44.53 | Arrowmaster | friends dont let friends use MsSQL |
| 19:45.00 | nevcairiel | mysql and orcale do as well |
| 19:45.08 | nevcairiel | those 3 are the only ones i've ever worked with |
| 19:45.10 | nevcairiel | so /shrug |
| 19:45.21 | Shirik | I know I came across it in the code generator I wrote |
| 19:45.29 | Shirik | had to write special code for one implementation |
| 19:45.34 | Shirik | because it was like "wtf is this % crap" |
| 19:45.46 | nevcairiel | maybe it was access =) |
| 19:46.23 | nicoli_s | MS sql rocks |
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| 19:46.47 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:46.49 | Fisker | yeah nicoli_s |
| 19:46.49 | nicoli_s | and sql server mgmt studio blows other tools out of the water |
| 19:47.19 | olafski | yeah I have to say I quite like it :) |
| 19:48.56 | Shirik | mssql is one of those things where it's like |
| 19:49.02 | Shirik | it can do everything you could ever want it to do |
| 19:49.10 | Shirik | but because of that it also can do everything you don't want it to do, too |
| 19:49.11 | Adys | nicoli_s: you obviously havent used pgadmin :p |
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| 19:50.59 | Shirik | we're screwed |
| 19:51.09 | Shirik | so much for everything being resolved when Kim Jong-Il dies |
| 19:51.23 | Shirik | Kim Jong-un, the third son of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il (pictured), is made a general of the Korean People's Army and a vice chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Workers' Party of Korea. |
| 19:51.40 | Fisker | maybe everything gets resolved when the US gets nuked |
| 19:51.45 | Shirik | nana |
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| 19:51.50 | Shirik | have you ever played Star Ocean? |
| 19:51.54 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:51.55 | Shirik | That's what happens when the US gets nuked |
| 19:52.03 | Ackis | local animal shelter is "full on rodents and rabbits"... they also have a snake... am I the only one who sees a solution? |
| 19:52.13 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inBKPRwY6k0 |
| 19:52.17 | Shirik | ^ What happens when the US gets nuked |
| 19:52.23 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: lol |
| 19:52.41 | nevcairiel | Ackis: lol |
| 19:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | Snakes often won't eat live wigglies, silly Ackis. |
| 19:52.57 | Arrowmaster | yes they do |
| 19:53.06 | Fisker | neat Shirik |
| 19:53.10 | Ackis | that's why it'll wrap itself around it and kill it first :P |
| 19:53.14 | Ackis | (it's a boa constrictor) |
| 19:53.21 | nicoli_s | i always assumed star ocean was fantasy, not modern time |
| 19:53.36 | Ackis | http://bit.ly/987ns4 |
| 19:53.56 | Fisker | funny how the white house wasn't at all affected |
| 19:53.56 | Shirik | or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo |
| 19:54.31 | Ackis | Fisker: the only people who can destroy the white house are Canadians. |
| 19:55.48 | Lopeppeppy | Blame canada |
| 19:58.04 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:58.06 | Shirik | with what |
| 19:58.13 | Shirik | an army of mooses? |
| 19:58.21 | nicoli_s | rocket propelled mooses |
| 19:59.41 | zenzelezz | fools, it's møøse |
| 20:00.05 | Shirik | mððses |
| 20:00.05 | Adys | Cide: what's the appropriate exception type to raise if I depend on a web service and it returns the wrong http type? Im raising ValueError atm |
| 20:00.50 | MoonWitch | hey Nev? Cat5e or cat6? |
| 20:01.12 | zenzelezz | bear10k lulz!! |
| 20:01.15 | MoonWitch | and utp or go shielded? |
| 20:01.21 | SqueeG | the white house was affected |
| 20:01.27 | SqueeG | it's wings were blown off |
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| 20:02.17 | Shirik | Do you have a reason to use cat6? |
| 20:02.30 | Shirik | do you have a reason to use anything other than UTP? |
| 20:02.32 | MoonWitch | not really but future wise it may be better? |
| 20:02.38 | Shirik | no it won't |
| 20:02.55 | Shirik | it really only will make a difference if you have like 500 wires parallelling each other |
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| 20:02.59 | MoonWitch | well the canals (for lack of better word) are most likely used by coax, tel cable and perhaps electric |
| 20:03.04 | zenzelezz | shielded cable is for disc priests lulz!! |
| 20:03.10 | zenzelezz | I'm totally on a roll tonight |
| 20:03.12 | MoonWitch | I am a Disc priest |
| 20:03.37 | MoonWitch | look me up, Ynarah, Draenei on the EU Earthen Ring :P |
| 20:03.37 | Shirik | I'm a holy priest |
| 20:03.41 | Fisker | sure it will Shirik |
| 20:03.54 | Fisker | when he has all 10Gbps equipment his Cat 5e will only got 1Gbps |
| 20:03.59 | Ackis | I'm a troll. |
| 20:03.59 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:04.09 | MoonWitch | Fisker, I am still female |
| 20:04.15 | MoonWitch | flashes her chest |
| 20:04.16 | MoonWitch | see? |
| 20:04.25 | Fisker | no |
| 20:04.30 | Shirik | let me put it this way MoonWitch |
| 20:04.30 | MoonWitch | too bad |
| 20:04.31 | Fisker | did you turn your webcam on? |
| 20:04.41 | Shirik | without exaggeration, unless you exceed 1 Gb/s, you're not going to have a problem with Cat 5E |
| 20:04.42 | Fisker | let me put you this way Shirik |
| 20:04.50 | Shirik | even then you could probably get away with it |
| 20:05.08 | MoonWitch | I just figured I'd check with people who know more than I do about these matters :) |
| 20:05.09 | Ackis | hah Fisker got boobied |
| 20:05.10 | Ackis | wait |
| 20:05.14 | Ackis | I have cat6 |
| 20:05.26 | Shirik | well you're canadian |
| 20:05.28 | Ackis | it wasn't that much more expensive and I can brag |
| 20:05.29 | Shirik | we would expect this from you |
| 20:05.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:05.34 | Fisker | omg Adys |
| 20:05.39 | MoonWitch | so Cat5e it is (the modem here is only Gbps) |
| 20:05.41 | Fisker | the latest dev just went into beta channel |
| 20:05.58 | Adys | so? |
| 20:06.04 | Fisker | the funny thing is that Cat 6 has insane requirements |
| 20:06.05 | Shirik | omg Fisker |
| 20:06.12 | MoonWitch | Ackis, I could go overboard and use Cat7 :P just to brag to you ;) |
| 20:06.26 | Fisker | if you bend it at 90 degrees it won't do 10Gbps anymore |
| 20:06.56 | Ackis | MoonWitch: NO U |
| 20:07.07 | MoonWitch | Ackis : lol |
| 20:07.51 | nevcairiel | MoonWitch: i've always used 5e shielded |
| 20:07.54 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 20:07.56 | Lopeppeppy | a lot of things don't work if you bend them 90 degrees. o.O |
| 20:07.57 | Ackis | if you got cat 7 I'd get cat 7a! |
| 20:08.14 | cog|work | depends on the radius of the bend |
| 20:08.21 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy, oh my mind just went to the gutter |
| 20:08.26 | Shirik | Assume you have a hub connecting 3 equidistant computers |
| 20:08.40 | Shirik | Which cable allows you to have the largest distance: Cat 5e, 6, or 7? |
| 20:08.43 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: fisker works better when you bend him 90 degrees |
| 20:08.49 | alestane | You're probably sitting right there with her then, MoonWitch. |
| 20:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | Nevar, MoonWitch! |
| 20:08.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you and your trick questions |
| 20:08.57 | Ackis | Shirik: I didn't think that was cable dependant |
| 20:09.14 | nevcairiel | its not |
| 20:09.17 | Shirik | :) |
| 20:09.29 | Shirik | most people think the distance is limited by signal loss |
| 20:09.37 | Ackis | strangles Shirik with a 2m cat5 cable. |
| 20:09.38 | nevcairiel | well, it can be! |
| 20:09.42 | Shirik | but it's limited by CSMA/CD |
| 20:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | It's limited by chocolate chip availability. |
| 20:09.46 | nevcairiel | but you can't go over 100m |
| 20:09.47 | Shirik | ok if you make a really crappy cable, sure |
| 20:09.55 | nevcairiel | approx |
| 20:10.10 | zenzelezz | <Shirik> Assume you have a hub connecting 3 equidistant computers <--- I hope you meant a switch |
| 20:10.15 | Shirik | hub |
| 20:10.28 | cog|work | i have a cat 5 cable that i cut up twice to turn into and back from a crossover cable using electrical tape |
| 20:10.28 | Shirik | switches can get away with this a little better, that's why I specifically said hub |
| 20:10.30 | nevcairiel | doesnt really matter for the question |
| 20:10.32 | cog|work | that runs gigabit |
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| 20:10.42 | Shirik | well switches can employ some trickery |
| 20:10.44 | Shirik | if they're smart |
| 20:10.50 | zenzelezz | Shirik: ooh, tricksy hobbitses |
| 20:11.02 | cog|work | at least i don't think i soldered it... |
| 20:11.03 | Shirik | though I guess that borders on the "it's not a switch anymore then" |
| 20:12.48 | Shirik | lol. |
| 20:13.00 | Shirik | Someone proposed [[WP:DGAF]] for deletion |
| 20:13.10 | Shirik | Another's response: '''Keep''' per [[WP:DGAF]] |
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| 20:21.19 | kd3 | lol |
| 20:21.37 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 20:21.52 | kd3 | yes fisk-fisk? |
| 20:22.23 | Shirik | fisk-fisk? |
| 20:22.40 | kd3 | you just now noticed? I've been doing that for some time now |
| 20:22.49 | Fisker | he hates me |
| 20:22.49 | Fisker | that's why |
| 20:23.19 | Ackis | everyone hates you |
| 20:23.22 | Ackis | even your mom |
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| 20:25.41 | Cide | hi |
| 20:26.01 | Shirik | hi |
| 20:26.23 | Ackis | hay |
| 20:27.17 | Shirik | placebo effect or real: |
| 20:27.27 | Shirik | The back of my phone is not hot at all |
| 20:27.29 | Shirik | However |
| 20:27.54 | Shirik | I'm transmitting an email from it, in a room that is what might as well be a faraday cage, but it barely gets signal and battery drops rapidly so I know the antenna is ramped up really high |
| 20:28.05 | Shirik | when I place it in front of my hand, my hand feels hot, but not when I touch the metal |
| 20:28.17 | Shirik | radiation or placebo? |
| 20:28.18 | Shirik | go |
| 20:28.44 | Shirik | I shouldn't say "hot" rather "warmer" |
| 20:29.01 | kd3 | I'd vote placebo |
| 20:29.53 | Shirik | me too |
| 20:30.04 | Shirik | but it's amusing, especially because I know it shouldn't be happening |
| 20:30.11 | Shirik | but my brain is like "no no trust me!!" |
| 20:30.19 | Shirik | it's like the devil vs the angel thing |
| 20:30.54 | zenzelezz | could that really be called placebo though? |
| 20:31.01 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:31.50 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:31.53 | Fisker | valf are so smart |
| 20:31.55 | Fisker | s m r t |
| 20:32.08 | Fisker | they say noone needs the shop for gameplay items |
| 20:32.14 | Fisker | but the fact is that there are set bonuses |
| 20:32.17 | Fisker | which require hats |
| 20:32.37 | Fisker | and obviously hats are so common that you would of course wait several months/years for the drop instead of buying it |
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| 20:34.01 | Lunessa | I've got a drop for you, Fisker. |
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| 20:35.21 | Lunessa | Also, finding new planets is cool, ok? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370008,00.asp |
| 20:35.27 | Cidan | so apache access logs + mongodb = lol amazing. Just thought I'd share. |
| 20:35.58 | Shirik | you know what's not amazing? |
| 20:36.05 | Shirik | Working with morons on a software project |
| 20:36.07 | Ackis | has a planet in his pants. |
| 20:36.08 | zenzelezz | Cidan: how so? |
| 20:36.17 | zenzelezz | Ackis: a dwarf planet |
| 20:36.48 | Lunessa | Ackis: Couldn't make it to the bathroom in time? |
| 20:36.50 | Shirik | you know what else is amazing? |
| 20:36.52 | Cidan | I'm indexing all of our apache access logs into mongodb, instant stats processing, sorting, etc. |
| 20:36.54 | Shirik | I just found this in my classroom |
| 20:36.56 | Cidan | So, so nice. |
| 20:37.03 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ac734239336f4d4e2ab498e6fdc04af2.jpg |
| 20:37.22 | zenzelezz | Cidan: how is MongoDB different from other databases for that? Does it support direct parsing of the access logs? |
| 20:37.28 | nevcairiel | your picture is sideways |
| 20:37.36 | Shirik | sorry |
| 20:37.39 | Shirik | my phone sucks |
| 20:37.49 | Cidan | for one, mongodb doesn't fall over with several hundred million rows |
| 20:37.55 | nicoli_s | Shirik:i love errors like that |
| 20:38.04 | nicoli_s | our phone system at work has one error: "Impossible" |
| 20:38.07 | Cide | cancel that error! |
| 20:38.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:38.13 | Cidan | I can query a full 60 million documents, indexed, in less than a second. |
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| 20:38.22 | Shirik | my favorite part of this error screen |
| 20:38.23 | Cidan | And that's without mapreduce/sharding. |
| 20:38.28 | Shirik | that little thing in the bottom right corner of its screen |
| 20:38.31 | Shirik | is a bird |
| 20:38.38 | Shirik | as you move the mouse, that bird flaps around; it's your cursor |
| 20:38.41 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:38.58 | Cide | precursor to twitter? |
| 20:39.33 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:39.51 | Shirik | funny thing is that error isn't really evven an error |
| 20:39.57 | Shirik | all it is is "date/time not set" |
| 20:40.53 | Ackis | like a flashing VCR? |
| 20:41.04 | kd3 | *blink* |
| 20:41.09 | kd3 | *blink* |
| 20:42.02 | Gnarfoz | <@Shirik> http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ac734239336f4d4e2ab498e6fdc04af2.jpg <-- your rtc battery is empty! ^^ |
| 20:42.46 | Shirik | we found it like |
| 20:42.49 | Shirik | in some desk drawer |
| 20:42.52 | Shirik | it's probably been there for 8 years |
| 20:43.13 | Shirik | It still has MS VC++ 6 on it for christ's sake |
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| 20:43.29 | kd3 | wow that's an old thinkpad |
| 20:43.36 | kd3 | that looks like the win95 logo |
| 20:43.48 | Shirik | oh and my favorite part |
| 20:43.52 | Shirik | it has NO way of connecting to the internet |
| 20:44.10 | amro | I like that error icon |
| 20:44.11 | Shirik | no phone, no ethernet, your only hope is a PCMCIA card |
| 20:44.12 | amro | HANDS OFF |
| 20:44.42 | amro | and a clitmouse |
| 20:45.11 | nevcairiel | nullmodem it |
| 20:45.15 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 20:45.29 | Fisker | we had all our IBM Thinkpad R51e's stolen |
| 20:45.42 | Fisker | which sucks since it was in a pretty expensive safe |
| 20:45.58 | nevcairiel | did they take the safe too? |
| 20:46.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:46.12 | Shirik | would be hilarious someone steals the safe but leaves the stuff in it behind because it was too heavy |
| 20:46.23 | Fisker | yeah it's one specially for deployment |
| 20:46.25 | nevcairiel | well, pretty expensive safe, like he said! |
| 20:46.27 | Fisker | so it had wheels |
| 20:47.03 | nevcairiel | a safe with wheels, thats convenient |
| 20:47.04 | amro | must have been hard to steal |
| 20:47.34 | Shirik | sounds like something the fins would do |
| 20:48.17 | Adys | http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/goo-gl-url-shortener/ |
| 20:48.23 | Adys | goo.gl is now open to everyone |
| 20:50.33 | amro | gl with that |
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| 20:51.44 | Fisker | wit goo.gl? |
| 20:51.45 | Fisker | with* |
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| 20:59.47 | nevcairiel | kd3: gogo diff for beta build, i cba to find it on the distribution servers myself :P |
| 20:59.58 | kd3 | sec; just got it downloaded |
| 21:00.33 | nevcairiel | Bibi: those spell diffs, are they against last beta, or against ptr? |
| 21:00.44 | Bibi | PTR |
| 21:00.52 | nevcairiel | so i have to read those too <.< |
| 21:00.59 | Bibi | yes, you have to read MMO Champion every day |
| 21:01.01 | Bibi | I know it hurts |
| 21:01.17 | Shirik | purl, say !ambassadors |
| 21:01.17 | purl | !ambassadors |
| 21:01.18 | nevcairiel | terribly |
| 21:01.23 | Shirik | failmirc |
| 21:02.05 | Shirik | purl, say !ambassadors |
| 21:02.06 | purl | !ambassadors |
| 21:02.15 | kd3 | !ambassadors |
| 21:02.22 | kd3 | twiddles his thumbs |
| 21:02.36 | Shirik | apparently if you set up !ambassador to ping you, !ambassadors doesn't |
| 21:02.38 | nevcairiel | purl, don't let shirik abuse you |
| 21:02.54 | Gnarfoz | Bibi: only once a day? that's way below the prescribed amount! |
| 21:02.57 | nevcairiel | mirc highlighting isnt particuarly smart |
| 21:03.03 | nevcairiel | +l |
| 21:03.08 | Shirik | agree |
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| 21:04.28 | Adys | youtube video ads are getting stupidly annoying |
| 21:05.51 | Shirik | ^ |
| 21:05.55 | Shirik | AND SO IT BEGINS |
| 21:06.01 | Shirik | Google's evil plot reveals itself |
| 21:06.10 | Cide | make money... on ads? |
| 21:06.13 | Cide | NO WAY |
| 21:06.15 | Shirik | Hey, anyone here really, REALLY good with networking? |
| 21:06.18 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:06.27 | nevcairiel | eh, what part of networking? |
| 21:06.28 | olafski | zomg cide |
| 21:06.38 | olafski | it cannot be :O |
| 21:06.43 | Shirik | so my school has this awesome bandwidth, like better than Cide's speeds |
| 21:06.44 | nevcairiel | its a pretty broad subject |
| 21:06.45 | Shirik | that's nothing new |
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| 21:06.58 | Shirik | however, they cap each computer to what seems to be like 30K/sec |
| 21:07.07 | Cide | like worse than cide's speed |
| 21:07.11 | Cide | that's nothing new |
| 21:07.25 | Shirik | So my take on it is "If we could just make a computer look like a bunch of computers, we should be able to get around it" |
| 21:07.40 | Shirik | So my idea was something along the lines of creating many virtual adapters, each with its own MAC |
| 21:08.20 | Cide | seems like a fun project |
| 21:08.31 | Shirik | and then |
| 21:08.38 | Shirik | They all go on the same physical hardware, right? |
| 21:08.46 | foxlit | you're doomed anyway |
| 21:08.46 | Shirik | So it LOOKS like many computers |
| 21:08.53 | foxlit | You might get away with good torrent speeds |
| 21:08.56 | Shirik | and then we have one networking adapter in the computer which kinda "merges" all them together |
| 21:09.33 | kd3 | emails away |
| 21:09.36 | Shirik | the key here is that it can't be visible from the transport layer |
| 21:09.45 | Shirik | it needs to essentially be all at the physical/DL layer |
| 21:09.46 | Cide | I don't know anything about that but it seems like it wouldn't play nicely with packet ordering |
| 21:09.55 | Shirik | see TCP takes care of that |
| 21:10.03 | alestane | So instead of trying to virtualize your computer, you're just trying to virtualize your network presence? Interesting. |
| 21:10.10 | Cide | even with separate adapters? |
| 21:10.21 | Shirik | well the transport layer wouldn't even be aware |
| 21:10.41 | alestane | I'll ask Kat, she spends most of her time at work monkeying around with virtualization and server infrastructure. |
| 21:10.41 | Shirik | as far as it's concerned it's this new awesome topology of awesomeness |
| 21:11.01 | Shirik | My concern is really ARP |
| 21:11.04 | alestane | So you're talking about one physical network adapter and one physical connection? |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | boo no fixes for my problems =( |
| 21:11.15 | Shirik | Because we're getting to the point where multiple mac addresses point to the same IP |
| 21:11.24 | Shirik | and I'm not sure how much that would be enjoyed by the router |
| 21:11.27 | alestane | Which problems, nevcairiel? |
| 21:11.42 | kd3 | crap in the secure env is broken still |
| 21:11.51 | alestane | Well, which crap? |
| 21:11.55 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you cant do that |
| 21:12.01 | Arrowmaster | you have to use multiple ips |
| 21:12.11 | Arrowmaster | you could use the same mac though |
| 21:12.14 | Shirik | that would cause problems in TCP then though |
| 21:12.28 | alestane | I know I have a few things to tackle in the aura headers, but there are fixes in the pipeline for the other issues I'm aware of. |
| 21:12.28 | Shirik | nah I'm making the assumption that the throttling is based on MAc |
| 21:12.35 | Shirik | though it could be on IP |
| 21:12.40 | nevcairiel | alestane: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000&pageNo=4#76 |
| 21:12.46 | nevcairiel | that one is rather crucial for me |
| 21:12.58 | Shirik | but if it's on IP that's its own problem because I can't break the connection into multiple IPs wihtout making the application aware |
| 21:12.58 | nevcairiel | two posts above that isnt really a bug, but would be awesome to have =) |
| 21:13.23 | nevcairiel | I tried to reach iriel, but i always missed him, as he took care of the other issue i had before |
| 21:14.05 | kd3 | waits for the s9 date to hit the front page... |
| 21:14.05 | Cide | Shirik: what I meant was that if the throttling is network-based, each MAC address would get ordered packets sure, but you would need the equivalent of a merge sort to combine them in order |
| 21:14.14 | alestane | So, did they change the prototyping for PIckupSPell, then? |
| 21:14.19 | Cide | and would you even know how that order should be |
| 21:14.35 | Cide | ^ again, I know nothing |
| 21:14.39 | Shirik | TCP takes care of that |
| 21:14.46 | Shirik | TCP actually doesn't expect packets to be in order |
| 21:14.50 | Cide | TCP gives you ordering right |
| 21:14.56 | Shirik | as well as other things, yes |
| 21:14.57 | nevcairiel | alestane: it now works as PickupSpell(spellId) instead of PickupSpell(bookId, bookType) on live |
| 21:15.06 | nevcairiel | at least as my research suggests |
| 21:15.21 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: trust me you can not have multiple macs and one IP |
| 21:15.22 | Cide | but I figured if your network thinks they're separate targets, it will only guarantee ordering within each target (MAC addr), not overall |
| 21:15.27 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: I trust you |
| 21:15.31 | Shirik | I'm just trying to find a solution |
| 21:15.33 | alestane | As far as the other one, nevcairiel, it will probably have to wait on the first significant patch. We're pretty much locked on any new features. |
| 21:15.41 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 21:15.43 | alestane | Significant bug fixes only. |
| 21:15.50 | nevcairiel | but that one i can work around with a lookup table |
| 21:15.54 | nevcairiel | the other one.. |
| 21:15.55 | nevcairiel | not so much |
| 21:16.05 | alestane | No, that's a real bug. |
| 21:16.12 | alestane | I'll try and get that one in. |
| 21:17.12 | nevcairiel | they should rather go all out on the APIs and remove all spellbook references |
| 21:17.17 | nevcairiel | they started on some |
| 21:17.19 | nevcairiel | but then stopped |
| 21:17.20 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 21:18.19 | nevcairiel | can always dream for 4.1 |
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| 21:22.53 | alestane | I just made the fix in my copies of the files...I have some other stuff to tackle first thing tomorrow morning before I ship stuff off. |
| 21:23.23 | nevcairiel | I hope it makes it in for 4.0.1, that would be awesome :) |
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| 21:25.59 | Fisker | why would you want something fixed alestane ? |
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| 21:29.33 | amro | ~gag Fisker |
| 21:29.33 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Fisker and, as an additional precaution, sews Fisker's mouth shut permanently... |
| 21:30.29 | cbreak | that is the difference between temporarily and permanently seewing someone's mouth shut? |
| 21:31.46 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:31.57 | Shirik | my software safety class just proved there are 4 universes |
| 21:32.23 | nicoli_s | did you smack them upside the head for thinking such a silly thing |
| 21:32.31 | Shirik | nope, makes sense |
| 21:33.12 | TC-Work | mds 3.0 can go screw itself |
| 21:33.18 | Lunessa | cbreak: Did you use thread and just sew the flesh, or did you use wire and do it at the bone? |
| 21:33.25 | Shirik | but each universe is only connected to two other universes |
| 21:33.47 | nicoli_s | Shirik:explain to them that ideas outside the box are not safe |
| 21:33.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:33.59 | nicoli_s | thus, if they continue to think that, they will fail safety class |
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| 21:34.29 | nicoli_s | what is involved with a software safety class? |
| 21:34.49 | Lunessa | Instructional use of data condoms? |
| 21:35.23 | nicoli_s | you think condoms are safe? ha |
| 21:35.32 | nicoli_s | only sewing up your genitals is safe |
| 21:35.34 | Shirik | ._. |
| 21:35.50 | TC-Work | mmm |
| 21:36.22 | Shirik | FMEA/FMEAC, root cause analysis, markov models, etc. |
| 21:36.52 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 21:37.01 | nicoli_s | not that i know what any of those are :P |
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| 21:37.30 | Shirik | ~wiki Failure mode and effects analysis |
| 21:37.49 | nicoli_s | ok, i get that |
| 21:38.05 | cbreak | sounds like something microsoft and adobe would do |
| 21:38.19 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: that's not safe. Infection |
| 21:39.16 | Shirik | basically (1) how to identify failures (2) how to break failures down to faults (3) how to prevent those faults from manifesting failures |
| 21:39.16 | Shirik | etc. |
| 21:39.28 | nicoli_s | Lunessa:then cut em off and cauterize the wound |
| 21:39.30 | Shirik | triple redundancy is a big one |
| 21:39.33 | Cide | #define failure fault |
| 21:39.34 | nicoli_s | then, safety |
| 21:39.51 | Shirik | bad Cide |
| 21:39.56 | Cide | :> |
| 21:40.11 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Also not safe, and certainly no fun. |
| 21:40.29 | Shirik | some of the most fun questions in this class, though |
| 21:40.36 | Shirik | "How much is a person's life worth?" |
| 21:41.23 | nicoli_s | 5 |
| 21:41.31 | Shirik | "What is worse, a 50% chance to lose $1 or a 0.5% chance to lose $100 |
| 21:41.53 | nicoli_s | depends on how often the thing happens where the chance is calculated |
| 21:44.46 | TC-Work | and how much money you have |
| 21:45.15 | TC-Work | Shirik: that is an easy one, a persons like is worth whatever someone is willing to spend for it. just like any other commodity. |
| 21:45.23 | TC-Work | s/like/life/ |
| 21:45.56 | Shirik | :/ |
| 21:46.15 | Shirik | so a life is a commodity? |
| 21:47.08 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:47.17 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, I just realized it's probably OK that they all have different IPs |
| 21:47.47 | Shirik | the virtual "Merged network adapter" would just need an IP that's on its own subnet |
| 21:47.51 | foxlit | Shirik: it still strikes me as a pointless endeavour. |
| 21:47.54 | Shirik | and we'll do a little NAT |
| 21:48.01 | foxlit | You won't get more than 30kb from a single source |
| 21:48.08 | Shirik | why not? |
| 21:48.12 | foxlit | Because that source will only be sending to one of your clones. |
| 21:48.49 | Shirik | I guess it dependson the kind of traffic |
| 21:49.16 | Shirik | I can schedule traffic however I want to on my side |
| 21:49.19 | Shirik | the other side I can't |
| 21:49.41 | foxlit | Point is, suppose you wanted to download a file over HTTP |
| 21:49.47 | Shirik | yeah I get your point |
| 21:50.15 | TC-Work | you still think it's a good idea, so i guess you dont |
| 21:50.27 | foxlit | You'd win if you wanted to download *multiple* files, or could somehow torrent it from a heckload of peers. |
| 21:51.07 | TC-Work | mmm...distributed computing. |
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| 21:54.10 | Shirik | I could acctually handle HTTP specially |
| 21:54.23 | Shirik | HTTP has capabilities in it to allow "resume" of file downloads |
| 21:54.41 | Shirik | So I could simultaneously download several segments |
| 21:54.51 | foxlit | You, sir, are mad. |
| 21:55.09 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 21:56.28 | cog|work | i got demoted in sc2... though it shouldn't have put me in silver to begin with |
| 21:56.29 | Lunessa | We could pin a tail on him and call him a wasel? |
| 21:56.33 | Lunessa | weasel. |
| 21:57.07 | KarlKFI|work | you're ghosting connections to somehow multithread your downloads? |
| 22:02.23 | Shirik | well that's what I want to do |
| 22:02.29 | Shirik | my school has this awesome bandwidth |
| 22:02.33 | Shirik | but limits each computer to about 30K |
| 22:03.25 | Arrowmaster | for HTTP traffic you would show up like any download accelerator would so it wouldnt be usable on servers that block download accelerators |
| 22:03.41 | Shirik | you give our IT too much credit |
| 22:03.49 | Shirik | me, I'm impressed they even managed to do this |
| 22:03.56 | Shirik | (last year it was fully unlimited) |
| 22:04.02 | Arrowmaster | im not giving your IT department any credit |
| 22:04.09 | Shirik | last semester they did something really strange |
| 22:04.16 | Arrowmaster | im giving sites that go out of their way to block download accelerators credit |
| 22:04.31 | Shirik | if you go to any website that does not start with www they would slow it to a crawl |
| 22:04.43 | Shirik | that one I never understood |
| 22:04.43 | Shirik | oh I see what you're saying |
| 22:04.50 | Shirik | yeah I guess that's true |
| 22:05.33 | foxlit | [also, not all content supports ranges, though large content probably does] |
| 22:06.02 | Arrowmaster | large content is the only thing it would be of any use on |
| 22:06.34 | Arrowmaster | small content tends to use pipelining so all the different files for a page could be sent over a single http connection |
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| 22:10.42 | Arrowmaster | now if you had access to another server that wasnt restricted you could actually pull this off for all content by proxing everything though the unrestricted server and using multiple connections to that server and running load balancing software on both your pc and the server |
| 22:11.20 | Jamash | I'm thinking a distributed squid cache |
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| 22:20.06 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 22:20.15 | Cairenn | hiya blu |
| 22:20.27 | bluspacecow | i has new computer |
| 22:20.46 | Cairenn | yay |
| 22:21.01 | ckknight | grats, bluspacecow |
| 22:21.25 | bluspacecow | but i fail at setting it up .. really ? copy preference files over AFP and forget to reset the permissions on them ? |
| 22:21.26 | bluspacecow | fail |
| 22:21.43 | bluspacecow | altough |
| 22:21.49 | bluspacecow | I need a firewire cable for this one |
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| 22:50.57 | bluspacecow | >_> brb testing to see if freenode will accept my nick password |
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| 22:53.13 | Duman | hmm |
| 22:53.58 | bluspacecow | "NickServ NOTICE You are now identified for Bluspacecow." |
| 22:54.08 | bluspacecow | *big thumbs up* |
| 22:57.24 | bluspacecow | NSFW Sex Robot ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGSVYgcy24Q |
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| 23:03.07 | BlackNet | lo. gotta slight problem here i cant seem to fix. |
| 23:03.23 | BlackNet | get this stupid 'aggro' bs label when in combat. want to get rid of it and cant seem to do that |
| 23:03.24 | bluspacecow | you're too sexy ? |
| 23:03.30 | bluspacecow | 'cause theres pills for that |
| 23:03.34 | BlackNet | lol |
| 23:05.29 | bluspacecow | as for your question ... is it behaviour that goes away if you have all addons disabled ? |
| 23:05.35 | BlackNet | no |
| 23:05.39 | BlackNet | does it with no add's |
| 23:07.11 | bluspacecow | does it pop up in Blizzard's floating combat text ? |
| 23:07.25 | BlackNet | no, smack in the center of the screen |
| 23:07.37 | bluspacecow | in red ? |
| 23:07.50 | BlackNet | yes |
| 23:08.09 | bluspacecow | search wowinterface.com for pError or nError |
| 23:08.49 | Xyphoid | there's a builtin aggro warning thing now right? |
| 23:08.54 | Xyphoid | that you can turn off in the default settings? |
| 23:08.59 | bluspacecow | think so |
| 23:08.59 | BlackNet | thought i did |
| 23:09.14 | BlackNet | int - display - display aggro warning - never |
| 23:09.24 | Humbedooh | the "tsshh", "badabum", "bonnnngg" |
| 23:09.52 | bluspacecow | i like either both of those 2 above addons as it defaults to filter most errors but you can display the last errors with a simple command |
| 23:11.01 | BlackNet | crap. hold on |
| 23:11.20 | Shirik | ~x fr en ç'est comment c'est |
| 23:11.23 | Shirik | .. |
| 23:11.26 | Shirik | ~x fr en ç'est comment ç'est |
| 23:11.31 | Shirik | Ackis, does this make sense? |
| 23:11.40 | Shirik | imagine that says "It is how it is" |
| 23:12.06 | BlackNet | uhm there's this error catcher with auctioneer. |
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| 23:15.12 | bluspacecow | Swatter! |
| 23:15.30 | BlackNet | yea thats it |
| 23:15.46 | BlackNet | and there is no errors |
| 23:16.02 | amro | Shirik: c'est comme ca |
| 23:16.07 | amro | with the stupid cedilles |
| 23:17.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:17.34 | Shirik | they're not stupid |
| 23:17.36 | Shirik | I wish English had them |
| 23:17.57 | Shirik | maybe I should start writing with them |
| 23:18.23 | Shirik | If I'm lucky, I can convinçe people to start using them and evolve English! |
| 23:19.00 | BlackNet | so any ideas on that label? |
| 23:19.27 | Shirik | hm? |
| 23:22.32 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 23:22.39 | Shirik | professor is enumerating software safety standards |
| 23:22.51 | Shirik | "Avoid concurrency" "Don't use shared memory" etc. |
| 23:22.54 | Shirik | then he says "Don't use Java" |
| 23:23.00 | Shirik | I like him |
| 23:23.27 | BlackNet | ok next one. anyone here up on x-perl? know how to get the healer to be the top of the frame? |
| 23:24.00 | amro | Shirik: writing them by hand is just as annoying as having to put them on your keyboard layout |
| 23:24.19 | Shirik | alt+0231 |
| 23:24.31 | amro | that's just as shitty |
| 23:24.46 | amro | I've written entire essays in french and using altcodes |
| 23:24.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:24.55 | amro | it's better to just ignore that shit and use a spellchecker to clean it up |
| 23:25.12 | Shirik | 0231 and 0233 are the most important |
| 23:25.13 | Shirik | :) |
| 23:25.43 | amro | I have no idea what they are, I used the ascii codes |
| 23:25.57 | Shirik | ç é |
| 23:26.01 | amro | 130, 135, 136 |
| 23:26.28 | cog|work | 'c and alt-gr e |
| 23:26.29 | cog|work | imo |
| 23:26.30 | KarlKFI|work | Shirik: i dont think those are standards. they're more like 'ways to increase security' |
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| 23:26.44 | Cide | é imo |
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| 23:27.03 | Cide | like in my name |
| 23:27.11 | Cide | Andréééééééééééééé |
| 23:27.15 | Shirik | KarlKFI: They're "standards one might hae to improve safety" |
| 23:27.17 | cog|work | é is how french canadians spell eh |
| 23:27.21 | Shirik | have* |
| 23:27.25 | amro | Andrée imo. |
| 23:27.53 | KarlKFI|work | standards is a poor word to use then |
| 23:27.55 | Shirik | Shiriké |
| 23:28.05 | Shirik | KarlKFI|work: They were examples :) |
| 23:28.16 | cog|away | ShÃrÃk |
| 23:28.23 | KarlKFI|work | then why call them standards? |
| 23:28.31 | Shirik | because they could be standards |
| 23:28.37 | Shirik | if someone chose to implement them |
| 23:28.47 | KarlKFI|work | if they were they would be bad |
| 23:28.54 | Shirik | why? |
| 23:28.56 | KarlKFI|work | why enumerate bad standards |
| 23:29.01 | Shirik | Those aren't bad standards |
| 23:29.04 | Shirik | it all depends on what you're doing |
| 23:29.19 | Shirik | "Avoid concurrency" is a very popular standard, as is "Don't use shared memory" |
| 23:29.20 | KarlKFI|work | which is why they cant be standards |
| 23:29.27 | Shirik | In fact "Don't use shared memory" is an FAA requirement |
| 23:29.58 | Shirik | what are you talking about o.o |
| 23:30.02 | amro | isn't Don't use Java also an FAA requirement? |
| 23:30.07 | Shirik | yes actually |
| 23:30.12 | Shirik | but it's not written like that :P |
| 23:30.18 | Shirik | It's "Only use C, C++, or Ada" |
| 23:30.29 | amro | "don't use languages that blow up at runtime" |
| 23:30.57 | KarlKFI|work | then they're examples of requirements, not standards |
| 23:31.01 | Shirik | Their biggest reason for it is because they want languages that have a very deterministic mapping of memory, etc. |
| 23:31.08 | Shirik | I'm not sure why you're saying that |
| 23:31.22 | KarlKFI|work | at most they're common or well known examples |
| 23:31.30 | Shirik | of standards? yes |
| 23:32.56 | KarlKFI|work | ok you win. but it still needs more qualification. they're not just 'software safety standards' |
| 23:33.16 | Shirik | I think we have different definitions of standards |
| 23:33.27 | KarlKFI|work | they're software safety standards used by certain governing bodies or groups |
| 23:33.32 | foxlit | http://goo.gl/KIKa << mwhahaha |
| 23:33.33 | KarlKFI|work | they're not standard to the field |
| 23:33.34 | amro | I think you should take off the coats and fight |
| 23:33.45 | Shirik | thwacks foxlit |
| 23:33.54 | foxlit | [though, to be fair, you'll only notice what it does if your connection is slow] |
| 23:34.20 | Shirik | I'm not sure if I noticed, then |
| 23:34.26 | Shirik | it takes me to goo.gl |
| 23:35.01 | Cide | same |
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| 23:35.24 | foxlit | http://web-sniffer.net/?url=http://goo.gl/KIKa&gzip=yes&http=1.1 |
| 23:35.30 | codex952 | hey guys, im having trouble finding the event for this: |
| 23:35.31 | codex952 | elseif (event == "CHAT_MSG_YELL" ) then TriviaKiller:Answer(questionAsked,"YELL") elseif (event == "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" ) then TriviaKiller:Answer(questionAsked,"CHANNEL") |
| 23:35.39 | codex952 | however, the 2nd CHANNEL seems to throw an error |
| 23:35.45 | Shirik | ..... |
| 23:35.47 | Shirik | bad foxlit |
| 23:36.11 | foxlit | I'm just fulfilling my obligations under the first law of input validation |
| 23:36.47 | Cide | that was like 3 redirects_ |
| 23:36.48 | Cide | ? |
| 23:36.49 | Shirik | what you need to do is predict a future one |
| 23:36.49 | Cide | that was bad |
| 23:36.57 | Shirik | and create a loop |
| 23:37.01 | Cide | yep |
| 23:37.02 | nebula169 | whoa when did goo.gl open up |
| 23:37.04 | foxlit | UA will end that. |
| 23:37.16 | Cide | only after some time though |
| 23:37.35 | Cide | what about if you redirect to a third party website halfway through the loop, and then back? |
| 23:37.38 | Cide | then again |
| 23:37.45 | Cide | creating a redirect loop isn't exactly rocket science |
| 23:37.54 | Shirik | that would work, but a fully-goo.gl solution would be better imo |
| 23:38.08 | foxlit | UAs catch redirect loops; it's in HTTP spec or something. |
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| 23:38.47 | foxlit | Shirik: bonus points for getting it to shorten a link to itself. |
| 23:38.55 | foxlit | i.e. goo.gl/foo -> goo.gl/foo |
| 23:39.28 | Shirik | the HTTP spec only says the keyword "SHOULD" detect redirect loops |
| 23:39.30 | Shirik | but I think they all do |
| 23:39.37 | Shirik | my real question is which ones handle something like |
| 23:40.01 | Jerub | goo.gl opened in the last 24 hours |
| 23:40.08 | Shirik | http://example.com/a.txt -> http://example.com/b.txt -> http://example.com/c.txt -> http://example.com/d.txt -> http://example.com/e.txt -> http://example.com/f.txt |
| 23:40.10 | Shirik | ad infinitum |
| 23:40.17 | Shirik | mod_rewrite could handle that |
| 23:40.23 | foxlit | Hard limit on the number of redirects |
| 23:40.37 | foxlit | If you don't serve a page in some number of http requests, you lose. |
| 23:40.38 | Shirik | but do they? |
| 23:40.49 | Shirik | that's not part of the standard |
| 23:40.52 | foxlit | iirc yes, I remember some error pages. |
| 23:40.53 | Shirik | it's a good idea |
| 23:40.54 | BlackNet | yea it's green sometimes but mostly red. |
| 23:40.56 | BlackNet | and always there :( |
| 23:40.58 | foxlit | "Previous versions of this specification recommended a maximum of five redirections; some clients may exist that implement such a fixed limitation." |
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| 23:44.40 | Cide | simple though |
| 23:45.02 | Cide | http 200: window.location = <next step> |
| 23:45.08 | Jerub | i know some J2EE based web pages that must do some fancy stuff to get around that |
| 23:45.21 | Jerub | because a login requires what seems like a dozen redirects. |
| 23:45.42 | Shirik | sounds like J2EE is broken |
| 23:45.44 | Shirik | what else is new |
| 23:47.24 | amro | it's not that evil |
| 23:47.30 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 23:47.33 | Shirik | it starts with J |
| 23:47.41 | amro | wasn't talking about J2EE |
| 23:47.44 | Shirik | oh |
| 23:47.51 | amro | the EE is for Extremely Evil btw |
| 23:48.10 | Shirik | ha |
| 23:50.07 | Blu|OhNomNomNom | http://bobshouseofvideogames.com/2010/09/29/funny-video-game-photos-pac-man-is-horrifying/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BHVG+%28Bob%27s+House+of+Video+Games%29&utm_content=Google+Reader |
| 23:56.27 | Adys | old n stuff |
| 23:56.45 | Adys | at least link the original source |
| 23:57.04 | Adys | http://kalapusa.deviantart.com/art/Pakku-rotundus-180581983 |
| 23:57.56 | Adys | i hate when websites steal the image like this and slap their name/logo on it :/ |
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